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yo is it true vordul got realnamed

barthes simpson, Friday, 28 September 2012 19:50 (eleven years ago) link

this beef thread got a little pink slimey

pun lovin criminal (polyphonic), Friday, 28 September 2012 19:52 (eleven years ago) link

by this logic, I should have been tempbanned for the last argument I had with Morbius

which, you know, you can tempban me now for it I guess but I think it's maybe a bad move in general?

― set me on fire RAAAAH (DJP), Friday, September 28, 2012 3:48 PM (3 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

u only get tempbanned if the person u realnamed is man enough to request u be tempbanned

flopson, Friday, 28 September 2012 19:53 (eleven years ago) link

one beef, two parody threads. that's gotta be a record

goole, Friday, 28 September 2012 19:53 (eleven years ago) link

are you strong enough to temp my ban

pun lovin criminal (polyphonic), Friday, 28 September 2012 19:53 (eleven years ago) link

i see what you are saying djp but pretty much everyone on the board knows that aero has particularly strong feelings abt real name use which he has made abundantly clear, so i see it as a more specific attack/fuck you vibe.

O_o-O_O-o_O (jjjusten), Friday, 28 September 2012 19:53 (eleven years ago) link

haha iirc Morbius requested pretty incessantly that DJP be banned (xposts)

anyway I agree w/jjjusten that we drop this.

gesange der yuengling (crüt), Friday, 28 September 2012 19:54 (eleven years ago) link

maybe we should just acknowledge that the rules are different for some people

We demand justice: who murdered Chanel? (Matt P), Friday, 28 September 2012 19:55 (eleven years ago) link

the object of issue has been edited, offending poster is taking a brief timeout
soylent green is beef
go look at trees

EVERYONE COOKING SCMABLED EGGS,CHEESE WITH TOASTER!! (forksclovetofu), Friday, 28 September 2012 19:55 (eleven years ago) link

I am sorry if anything I have ever posted caused this, I feel bad about this whole thing and I'm still not sure why this happened.

controversial cabaret roommate (Nicole), Friday, 28 September 2012 19:56 (eleven years ago) link

*waits for k3v k to show up*

barthes simpson, Friday, 28 September 2012 19:56 (eleven years ago) link

lol

set me on fire RAAAAH (DJP), Friday, 28 September 2012 19:57 (eleven years ago) link

i'm surprised because i've never seen turangilia act like this. he always seems really mellow on ilx but maybe i've missed things. i enjoy his facebook posts a great deal. i feel bad about the whole thing. having said that, i flagposted his restraining order post and i've flagged about 2 posts the whole time that thing as existed. not acceptable at all in my opinion.

scott seward, Friday, 28 September 2012 20:00 (eleven years ago) link

u only get tempbanned if the person u realnamed is man enough to request u be tempbanned

I do consider my willingness to demand a tempban an expression of my profound virility

Inconceivable (to the entire world) (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Friday, 28 September 2012 20:00 (eleven years ago) link

keep it in your pants aero, no 'baiting

EVERYONE COOKING SCMABLED EGGS,CHEESE WITH TOASTER!! (forksclovetofu), Friday, 28 September 2012 20:02 (eleven years ago) link

I was just playing I thought flopson and me get along p well nowdays

Inconceivable (to the entire world) (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Friday, 28 September 2012 20:04 (eleven years ago) link

is that what you call it

Mr. Que, Friday, 28 September 2012 20:05 (eleven years ago) link

I think I'd cry if scott ever flagged a post of mine :(

ɥɯ ︵ (°□°) (mh), Friday, 28 September 2012 20:08 (eleven years ago) link

oh, you old hound xp

flopson, Friday, 28 September 2012 20:09 (eleven years ago) link

ummm so i think scott is otm and the tempban is pretty gross.

We demand justice: who murdered Chanel? (Matt P), Friday, 28 September 2012 20:10 (eleven years ago) link

yeah

A.R.R.Y. Kane (nakhchivan), Friday, 28 September 2012 20:11 (eleven years ago) link

i'm surprised because i've never seen turangilia act like this. he always seems really mellow on ilx but maybe i've missed things. i enjoy his facebook posts a great deal. i feel bad about the whole thing.

^^^

I don't think the tempban is gross though.

gesange der yuengling (crüt), Friday, 28 September 2012 20:12 (eleven years ago) link

Beach House - Bloom

boxall, Friday, 28 September 2012 20:12 (eleven years ago) link

if yr going to get all juridicial abt it then u have to consider specific intent as well as victim's specific feelings and i don't think turangalila was trying to cause offence on that scale, evidenced by prompt apology

A.R.R.Y. Kane (nakhchivan), Friday, 28 September 2012 20:15 (eleven years ago) link

tbh I don't think there's a hard and fast rule about banning due to real name-dropping, not even really an offense unless that person has expressly said not to use their real name previously, which wasn't the case in the DJP/Morbius incident, I think. I know I've used DJP's name occasionally but I don't think he cares?

I've previously argued that using a person's /first/ name, and that alone, on a thread isn't really that big of a deal even if they want some semblance of anonymity, unless they have a name that's either uniquely identifiable on the board or uniquely identifiable in the world at large. For instance, googling nabisco's first name definitely leads you to him pretty quickly, whereas googling "mike" isn't going to do much to track me down on ilx, let alone in the world at large.

ɥɯ ︵ (°□°) (mh), Friday, 28 September 2012 20:15 (eleven years ago) link

I think it's reasonable to account for the fact that some ILXors have actual IRL overenthusiastic/creepy fans and others don't when making these sorts of decisions.

gesange der yuengling (crüt), Friday, 28 September 2012 20:18 (eleven years ago) link

still not sure how i feel about realnaming = ban tbh (ftr nobody ever needs to be banned for realnaming me unless they're posting something libelous, etc), think tempbans are good idea in general and maybe could be deployed more liberally, like if you are posting just way too much etc. i remember the greenspun outages back in the day could be helpful in keeping this place fresh and in perspective. would argue this thread is useful as a quarantine and as a punctuation mark on the silliness of 'beefs', forcing whoever is shitting on whatever thread to consciously go to another thread and do their little internet fight there. think yellowcarding should be brought back (though that was just a noize thing right?) and used.

balls, Friday, 28 September 2012 20:20 (eleven years ago) link

the suggestion is that sal (realnaming permission sought) was not trying to solicit creepy superfans, if that were demonstrably the case then it would be a different matter

A.R.R.Y. Kane (nakhchivan), Friday, 28 September 2012 20:20 (eleven years ago) link

http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lnx7r6XRzI1qccm2fo1_400.gif

i'm generally against the tempban in this case -- it was a total dick move, really nasty and uncalled for, and as jj said deployed in a different way than the DJP/morbs one, but turangilia caught enough shit from other posters that he(?) probably feels terrible about it now so idk. agree with djp

la goonies (k3vin k.), Friday, 28 September 2012 20:21 (eleven years ago) link

what is the collective noun for board lawyers

A.R.R.Y. Kane (nakhchivan), Friday, 28 September 2012 20:21 (eleven years ago) link

when the entire 'harm' of a post can and is immediately undone by editing the offending post so it's googleproofed, a ban of any length of time does seem very extreme. do we still do yellowcards? that's totally yellowcard territory. that's fuckin' ocean avenue right there.

overglorified male ani difrancos i have pwned (some dude), Friday, 28 September 2012 20:22 (eleven years ago) link

i think the context of the "irl zing" should be taken into context and suggests the need for a time-out. but then if i got temp-banned for typos and overposting i'd probably be grateful.

da croupier, Friday, 28 September 2012 20:22 (eleven years ago) link

it's really going to be hard to make a decision about this issue until every single person who posts on ilx weighs in with their opinion

congratulations (n/a), Friday, 28 September 2012 20:22 (eleven years ago) link

this is amazing

set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Friday, 28 September 2012 20:23 (eleven years ago) link

k3v you let me down :(

barthes simpson, Friday, 28 September 2012 20:24 (eleven years ago) link

bringing back yellowcards would be a delight.

gesange der yuengling (crüt), Friday, 28 September 2012 20:24 (eleven years ago) link

err on the side of forced vacations, imo

da croupier, Friday, 28 September 2012 20:24 (eleven years ago) link

do approve of 'ocean avenue' entering the ilxecion as a synonym for yellowcarding, though.

barthes simpson, Friday, 28 September 2012 20:24 (eleven years ago) link

be careful what u wish for crut

http://userserve-ak.last.fm/serve/500/299803/Yellowcard.jpg

set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Friday, 28 September 2012 20:25 (eleven years ago) link

nooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo
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gesange der yuengling (crüt), Friday, 28 September 2012 20:25 (eleven years ago) link

haa i didn't even get that

g/j ja-- er

goole, Friday, 28 September 2012 20:25 (eleven years ago) link

if i could find you now things would get better :(

overglorified male ani difrancos i have pwned (some dude), Friday, 28 September 2012 20:26 (eleven years ago) link

i got yellowcarded like two weeks ago

die face down in some dude's pool (how's life), Friday, 28 September 2012 20:26 (eleven years ago) link

heard how's life bought ocean avenue two weeks ago.

barthes simpson, Friday, 28 September 2012 20:27 (eleven years ago) link

Edit offending post, deliver brutal penile thrashing to offending poster.

Old Lunch, Friday, 28 September 2012 20:27 (eleven years ago) link

genuine lol at some dude's username btw

balls, Friday, 28 September 2012 20:28 (eleven years ago) link


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