[Edited out some personal specifics here]
― stet, Thursday, 18 October 2012 08:04 (twelve years ago) link
She says she never met M White. Yeah she tells 80% truth which gives the lies more plausibility and allows her to improvise them believably
― A True White Kid that can Jump (Granny Dainger), Thursday, 18 October 2012 08:06 (twelve years ago) link
Another ex ilxor had got caught up with her shit and every time a meeting got planned she'd "done her knee skiing" or whatever, and in the end he realised it was just a mess. Like, I feel bad I defended her when I did, and though I still dont approve of the way it was all outed, I do concede it turned out to be a massive knot of wtf.
― Una Stubbs' Tears (Trayce), Thursday, 18 October 2012 08:21 (twelve years ago) link
I'm reminded of that bizzarre story about the woman who got tricked into thinking she was having an amazing online affair with some firefighter dude with issues who turned out to be a fat middle aged cat lady with MASSIVE issues. I forget the details now but man, that was insane.
― Una Stubbs' Tears (Trayce), Thursday, 18 October 2012 08:22 (twelve years ago) link
also now I'm curious abt stets controv mod edit
― Una Stubbs' Tears (Trayce), Thursday, 18 October 2012 08:29 (twelve years ago) link
And Bryan, Granny and anyone else she screwed with, I am sorry that happened to you. Its so out there, and I hope it hasnt made you bitter about trusting ppl because that shit can happen to anyone if the manipulator is mental and devious enough.
― Una Stubbs' Tears (Trayce), Thursday, 18 October 2012 08:36 (twelve years ago) link
Yeah, what was the mod edit?
― the max in the high castle (kingfish), Thursday, 18 October 2012 12:43 (twelve years ago) link
That goes beyond even what I thought.
― omar little, Thursday, 18 October 2012 12:48 (twelve years ago) link
So I've kept in contact with "Luna" over the year yada yada. Tonight, her "ex" husband got into her Words W/Friends chats, including between me and her. He's never been divorced, or even separated from her. She swindled [another guy] to give her 50-75k. She would do nothing but talk shit about him to me, and I'd keep asking her well then why do you still talk to him? Guess I know now. Fuuuuuuucked up people out there man.
Should I interpret this that her husband knew about her swindling people and pretending to be their "girlfriend", even though they're still living together? How does he feel about it?
― Tuomas, Thursday, 18 October 2012 12:48 (twelve years ago) link
I hope she didn't get her hook$ into anyone on here like that.
― omar little, Thursday, 18 October 2012 12:49 (twelve years ago) link
...
― kinder, Thursday, 18 October 2012 12:51 (twelve years ago) link
ILX: the board that protects the insane and truly damaging and bans those who annoy the mods a little.
― Three Word Username, Thursday, 18 October 2012 12:52 (twelve years ago) link
Eh, once the truth came out, I don't think anyone was "protecting" Luna. Some of us were protesting against Chaki's comments at first, because at the time it felt like he was just doing a personal attack against Luna, but when other, less hot-headed posters started revealing more info about this whole case, there wasn't anyone protecting her anymore. And Luna herself had already stopped posting by then.
― Tuomas, Thursday, 18 October 2012 12:56 (twelve years ago) link
top 5 threads to read if you want to be an ilx board historian w/r/t luna?
― 乒乓, Thursday, 18 October 2012 12:59 (twelve years ago) link
I can't forgive or forget to the supposed lies she said about me to a late ilxor whom I hope eventually caught on to her shit.
― omar little, Thursday, 18 October 2012 13:00 (twelve years ago) link
I wish I could say I found this latest revelation surprising
― The Owls of Ja Rule (DJP), Thursday, 18 October 2012 13:05 (twelve years ago) link
X-post to Tuomas: right. So she was protected until she didn't need protecting any more, until these mod edits today, which also protect her.
― Three Word Username, Thursday, 18 October 2012 13:07 (twelve years ago) link
It's very sad and disappointing, but it does reinforce the one unwritten rule regarding the internet.
― Mark G, Thursday, 18 October 2012 13:14 (twelve years ago) link
they're not in place to protect her, probably best to leave that whole aspect alone really which is, er, why stet edited it
― a pass-agg to indier (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 18 October 2012 13:14 (twelve years ago) link
x-post
The mod edits were made at my request and were designed to protect someone other than the person who this thread is about. The mod in question has acted with great courtesy and kindness here - now why don't you STFU.
― Ward Fowler, Thursday, 18 October 2012 13:15 (twelve years ago) link
Er, you said we were "protecting the insane", but at that time we still thought she was a regular poster who was attacked by Chaki. There were some ILXors who knew more about this case, but they didn't post what they knew on ILX until after Chaki's comments. As for the mod edits, I assume they were because there was some sensitive info about third parties who don't necessarily want this whole case be laid out on a public message board.
(xxx-post)
― Tuomas, Thursday, 18 October 2012 13:19 (twelve years ago) link
I think Ward Fowler's wishes should be respected here and it would be good if people could just leave this be.
― Matt DC, Thursday, 18 October 2012 13:22 (twelve years ago) link
Ah, right then.
― the max in the high castle (kingfish), Thursday, 18 October 2012 13:23 (twelve years ago) link
Fuck you too, Fowler, you insufferable prick.
That said, I read this before the comments and understand the sensitivities involved, but I think it should be said that cuts DO involve an ILX regualr who was harmed greatly by Luna's actions, and I think omitting that only protects Luna. I also think there is a current situation happening that indicates that this board doesn't quite know what to do when the truly messed-up and bad do their thing online.
― Three Word Username, Thursday, 18 October 2012 13:23 (twelve years ago) link
There should be a movie made about this. Jennifer Garner can play the fake version of Luna.
― controversial cabaret roommate (Nicole), Thursday, 18 October 2012 13:31 (twelve years ago) link
I also think there is a current situation happening that indicates that this board doesn't quite know what to do when the truly messed-up and bad do their thing online.
Since you think all the cards should be laid out, maybe you could explain what you mean by this?
― Tuomas, Thursday, 18 October 2012 13:36 (twelve years ago) link
I think the mod in question did exactly the right thing in editing the post the way he did, in that he left enough detail in there while removing the names, and I'm not sure why this would be seen as "protecting" anyone.
― Matt DC, Thursday, 18 October 2012 13:38 (twelve years ago) link
semi-curious how you know the "husband" isn't actually her, GD
― The Owls of Ja Rule (DJP), Thursday, 18 October 2012 13:42 (twelve years ago) link
Because, Tuomas, this person is still on the board and to name him is to summon him.
x-post: The detail that the injured party was one of us was cut, and I think that needs mentioning. The other details that were removed are, I suppose, understandable, but they also would have made it more clear that Luna's behavior was truly, deeply fucked-up and wrong.
― Three Word Username, Thursday, 18 October 2012 13:43 (twelve years ago) link
Given that Words chat disappears very quickly, DJP otm.
― Three Word Username, Thursday, 18 October 2012 13:45 (twelve years ago) link
So you think Luna should not have been protected, but this other person should?
― Tuomas, Thursday, 18 October 2012 13:46 (twelve years ago) link
No. Your innocence game doesn't amuse in this case, Tuomas -- you can read the I Must Protest and Mod Request boards in the last week and figure it out. I don't want that particular destructive behavior on this thread, so I won't say the name.
― Three Word Username, Thursday, 18 October 2012 13:51 (twelve years ago) link
I still have some Words with Friends chats on games on my phone that ended a few days ago so it's not like it's impossible or even that unlikely; I just wondered what the level of contact was because I would just assume anything coming from that direction would be more untrustworthy character work.
― The Owls of Ja Rule (DJP), Thursday, 18 October 2012 13:53 (twelve years ago) link
x-post - If you're referring to what I think you're referring to (and you must be because it's the only thing that's happened in the last week or so) I really don't see how that compares to this whole debacle in any way shape or form.
― (✿◠‿◠) (ENBB), Thursday, 18 October 2012 13:54 (twelve years ago) link
Well who the fuck knows, it could be her, right? At 1st I thought it might be, but the way he was talking, the things he was telling me were just so completely different than anything I've ever gotten from her. Everything he said rang true, and painted her in a negative light. He gave me full names of friends (one of whom had legal issues that are googleable) which she had only ever identified by 1st name.
― A True White Kid that can Jump (Granny Dainger), Thursday, 18 October 2012 13:56 (twelve years ago) link
It is not the same thing. (xpost)
Still, though...
― Mark G, Thursday, 18 October 2012 13:58 (twelve years ago) link
Not saying they are identical cases, just saying that there's a real ugly pattern of manipulative and destructive behavior there that goes really beyond the pale, beyond the sort of mere annoyance that gets banned around here, and it gets left alone.
― Three Word Username, Thursday, 18 October 2012 13:58 (twelve years ago) link
Anyways, I would say about L, she seems to have a 1st class degree in plausibility.
― Mark G, Thursday, 18 October 2012 13:59 (twelve years ago) link
xxxp: yeah that would be a total rabbit hole for me; I'd be wondering if it was really her husband or if she was trying to terminate contact for whatever reason by inventing a character to nuke the relationship, opening up with more true, verifiable details to scare you off
I mean, if the husband knows what she does to people online, why is he still around? (I guess the answer might be "for the occasional $50-$75K windfall")
― The Owls of Ja Rule (DJP), Thursday, 18 October 2012 14:00 (twelve years ago) link
I don't know if there's much that can be done about it though. Pointing it out just leads to getting demonized the way chaki did when he called luna out. xxp
― controversial cabaret roommate (Nicole), Thursday, 18 October 2012 14:01 (twelve years ago) link
He was certainly an authority on fictitious hot girls, I'll grant you that, but that's not really why he was demonised or thrown out.
― Matt DC, Thursday, 18 October 2012 14:05 (twelve years ago) link
Thrown out? I thought he boldly abandoned ILX! I believe a bed was involved...
― Mark G, Thursday, 18 October 2012 14:07 (twelve years ago) link
Liars still have a consistency in tone, style, y'know? How quickly he was responding, his emotions and background details...it convinced me. I realize you may think I'm unreliable detective here, so without being able to show you all of the back n forth between us, don't know how to convince anyone here it really wasn't her. It was enough to convince me and I have plenty of reason to be skeptical. Anyway, husband says he's now done with her, chats between me and her were proof she had been cheating on him with her HS boyfriend. (and I confirmed she'd also been at least fucking another member in said bf's shitty bar band). Yeah I think he was benefitting from the $$ too, and was in denial of the full scope of what she was doing (re: the swindling: "he needed someone to talk to, and she needed $, so they both got something out of it")
― A True White Kid that can Jump (Granny Dainger), Thursday, 18 October 2012 14:07 (twelve years ago) link
I think I can guess from the conversation since what the edit was, and am glad it's not there any more. I can think of one obvious name who hasn't come up (but maybe some of you were thinking of) that would have a real story to tell, but he hasn't posted here years.
And no, I would have thought spamming all the boards with personal insults about a Mod might have been the reason for Chaki's ban.
― passive-aggressive display name (aldo), Thursday, 18 October 2012 14:08 (twelve years ago) link
mods otm here. Not sure what other case of recent times TWU is referring to, and i read my IMP and MRQ before breakfast
― the oft-posited third fisherman (darraghmac), Thursday, 18 October 2012 14:09 (twelve years ago) link
Ditto, I have no idea what the current thing is.
― passive-aggressive display name (aldo), Thursday, 18 October 2012 14:10 (twelve years ago) link
I'm more talking through my own distrust/paranoia than trying to discredit your appraisal of the situation, GD.
― The Owls of Ja Rule (DJP), Thursday, 18 October 2012 14:10 (twelve years ago) link
I had been under the impression that Luna was Chaki.
― sorcery is in the gutter (how's life), Thursday, 18 October 2012 14:12 (twelve years ago) link
I would have thought spamming all the boards with personal insults about a Mod might have been the reason for Chaki's ban.
I wasn't talking about Chaki's ban, I was referring to when he first made his allegations against Luna and people were calling him a liar and an asshole.
― controversial cabaret roommate (Nicole), Thursday, 18 October 2012 14:14 (twelve years ago) link
I'd be wondering if it was really her husband or if she was trying to terminate contact for whatever reason by inventing a character to nuke the relationship, opening up with more true, verifiable details to scare you off
It was out of the blue. We don't have much of a relationship other than online phone games and the occasional text, so all she'd need to do to terminate contact is like not contact me. I mean I was already scared off all those years back from any deeper relationship than what I just described.
― A True White Kid that can Jump (Granny Dainger), Thursday, 18 October 2012 14:15 (twelve years ago) link