treeship is a single white male
― buzza, Thursday, 19 September 2013 04:16 (eleven years ago) link
i am one of the main offenders in your eyes if i understand correctly.
eh not in my eyes
and just ftr, as i've stated before i think, i love p much everyone on this site i just disagree with most/all of em about this stuff so no spillover on my part either way
― quite racist, don't mind rap (darraghmac), Thursday, 19 September 2013 04:16 (eleven years ago) link
okay. i enjoyed this conversation. i do think you (Mordy) would like walter benn michaels, and he's that rare English academic who's a gifted writer, as a bonus.
i feel uncharacteristically chill.
― horseshoe, Thursday, 19 September 2013 04:17 (eleven years ago) link
i think this has been a chill chat :) i'll check out wbm
― Mordy , Thursday, 19 September 2013 04:18 (eleven years ago) link
horseshoe do you like my display name
― druhilla (k3vin k.), Thursday, 19 September 2013 04:20 (eleven years ago) link
ah xps, the heart of it!
i only despair at dayo, f'rinstance, when he uses me as an example of yr standard ignorant oppresoor privilege denier on a thread i've not posted on in weeks and then refuses to engage if i call him on it twice
but he's still one of my v favourite posters, no spillover as i said.
again, yes i can see that for me to be all 'hey man let's thrash it out and argue about this stuff no holds barred no hard feelings mannnn' is a position that i should more than likely step away from because ppl who are deep into this in a way i am not will naturally take it to heart in a way i won't. but eh like tbrr imo there's still ways to carry on on ilx and there's ways not to, unrelated to w/e is being discussed.
but other than that i don't see any issue at all with my disagreeing (completely) with posters that i like and admire on this or any other subject
― quite racist, don't mind rap (darraghmac), Thursday, 19 September 2013 04:24 (eleven years ago) link
o'ppresúr
― quite racist, don't mind rap (darraghmac), Thursday, 19 September 2013 04:25 (eleven years ago) link
why are you up so early, darragh?
― Fizzles, Thursday, 19 September 2013 04:54 (eleven years ago) link
tbh I think part of the problem is the sheer number of posters who are often trying to communicate a variety of experiences/nuanced opinions but then might all go 'wtf @ honor, Mordy' (for example) on one particular point. And then it seems like ILX is one singular hivemind where every post isn't just a random lol or jibe or single point but also implicitly seems to endorse whatever went before (to the person feeling got-at).
e.g. when Mordy requested that emil.y use the word 'patriarchy' in a certain way, that just tickled my sense of irony so I posted an offhand comment and then was accused of saying something utterly different. I know that happens a lot on ILX but I think volume of posts from different people who might have individual points to make just kind of get lost in a big amorphous blob of ~something about privilege~ and the thread of any particular argument is lost in what seems like a pile-on.
― kinder, Thursday, 19 September 2013 07:52 (eleven years ago) link
at swm two birds, lol
― goole, Thursday, 19 September 2013 15:36 (eleven years ago) link
I don't want to get too deeply into this conversation but can I throw a conversational bomb into the mix about how "passing" is a two-way street, one direction involving people taking on a cultural identity based on their looks and the other involving how people assign default cultures to people based on their perceptions of them and that you don't have to actively participate in part A to benefit from or be hurt by part B, and then run away?
― You are kind, I am jerkface (DJP), Thursday, 19 September 2013 15:45 (eleven years ago) link
too late, you're in the tractor beam now
― Neanderthal, Thursday, 19 September 2013 15:46 (eleven years ago) link
single white neanderthal
― ¯\(乒_乓 )/¯ (am0n), Thursday, 19 September 2013 15:57 (eleven years ago) link
should we really consider neanderthals white tho lets break this down
― lag∞n, Thursday, 19 September 2013 16:10 (eleven years ago) link
Area Man's Intelligence Probably Just Too Intimidating For Most Women
― HOOS it because...of steen???? (BIG HOOS aka the steendriver), Thursday, 19 September 2013 16:40 (eleven years ago) link
that photo is tremendous
― Saul Goodberg (by Musket and Pup Tent) (s.clover), Thursday, 19 September 2013 16:50 (eleven years ago) link
friends get into stuff all the time that i can't get on their wavelength with - not just re race. i could probably be more decent about it and live + let live but that's about tact/etiquette. i'm still going to regret the shift in emphasis privately
― Mordy , Thursday, September 19, 2013 12:15 AM (13 hours ago) Bookmark
hey man it's not like i joined the klan or the church of scientology! reading that actually makes me feel a little... sad, that this is something you spend time genuinely regretting tbh.
― 乒乓, Thursday, 19 September 2013 17:59 (eleven years ago) link
Naenderthals are definitely white and I have cred on both fronts
― Ma mère est habile Mais ma bile est amère (Michael White), Thursday, 19 September 2013 19:21 (eleven years ago) link
http://assets.nydailynews.com/polopoly_fs/1.1191669!/img/httpImage/image.jpg_gen/derivatives/landscape_635/neanderthal25n-1-web.jpg
by science
― Saul Goodberg (by Musket and Pup Tent) (s.clover), Thursday, 19 September 2013 21:14 (eleven years ago) link
surely saying "Neanderthals were white" is like saying "Homo sapiens are white"
― ftraight from ye toppe of my Donne (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 19 September 2013 21:17 (eleven years ago) link
― 乒乓, Thursday, September 19, 2013 1:59 PM (3 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
didn't mordy think contenderizer was the best poster on ilx like a year ago? i wouldn't sweat it
― flopson, Thursday, 19 September 2013 21:19 (eleven years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vmb41PcarVY
― ᶓ͠סּᴥ͠סּᶔ ᶓͼ᷆ₓͼ᷇ᶔ (gr8080), Thursday, 19 September 2013 21:28 (eleven years ago) link
oh god i forgot that vid
― ftraight from ye toppe of my Donne (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 19 September 2013 21:29 (eleven years ago) link
unfrozen swm
― ☪☮⚤✡i☯✞ (am0n), Thursday, 19 September 2013 21:37 (eleven years ago) link
i appreciate your username v much, k3v
― horseshoe, Thursday, 19 September 2013 21:39 (eleven years ago) link
Words and language are powerful tools by which an individual can express ideas, whether abstract, actionable, or concrete. As a writer and editor, I know firsthand that language and the meanings we attach to words very much impact, influence, develop, and change the attitudes that we have toward the subjects of discussion. That is why people are easily insulted or upset by word choices. Changing a phrase — even if it holds the same literal meaning — alters the subtle connotations and nuances of the speech, and communicates a different meaning and context than the original phrasing.
feel like this indicates some of the areas that could be debated separately from arguments about privilege
― Tyskie in the giro (Noodle Vague), Friday, 20 September 2013 14:04 (eleven years ago) link
https://twitter.com/nathanjurgenson/status/381124219498553344
― HOOS it because...of steen???? (BIG HOOS aka the steendriver), Friday, 20 September 2013 18:37 (eleven years ago) link
my WBM book has arrived and i can already tell it's going to be great - it has a picture of sheeple on the cover!
― Mordy , Thursday, 26 September 2013 22:43 (eleven years ago) link
http://www.tinymixtapes.com/features/2013-on-being-offended
Feel like you would appreciate this article Mordy
― 乒乓, Sunday, 8 December 2013 18:22 (ten years ago) link
friend of mine posted that on fb and got destroyed for it
― flopson, Sunday, 8 December 2013 20:11 (ten years ago) link
And judging from Google search results,...
http://media.giphy.com/media/6RoUMn34pqvcs/giphy.gif
― kinder, Sunday, 8 December 2013 20:24 (ten years ago) link
it was ok, gets a little smarmy at the end, 'It also risks reducing audiences’ own interpretive possibilities' say it ain't so. probably bc he wanted to be controversial but didn't want to go to the logical conclusion which is internet bros love being offended bc in capitalism-ravaged 2013 america it is the only way we can feel alive.
― Mordy , Monday, 9 December 2013 00:12 (ten years ago) link
internet bros love being offended bc in capitalism-ravaged 2013 america it is the only way we can feel alive.
new board description?
― if you're happy and you know it, it's false consciousness (c sharp major), Monday, 9 December 2013 00:20 (ten years ago) link
Hi Mordy. What is your favourite situation comedy?
― dickbait (wins), Tuesday, 29 April 2014 20:13 (ten years ago) link
ever, or currently airing?
― Mordy , Tuesday, 29 April 2014 20:14 (ten years ago) link
ever
― dickbait (wins), Tuesday, 29 April 2014 20:14 (ten years ago) link
seinfeld maybe?
― Mordy , Tuesday, 29 April 2014 20:17 (ten years ago) link
good answer, that's one of my favourite american situation comedies
― dickbait (wins), Tuesday, 29 April 2014 20:22 (ten years ago) link
its good ive heard meaning to check it out thx
― lag∞n, Tuesday, 29 April 2014 20:46 (ten years ago) link
Its shit check out reginald perrin instead srsly
― james lipton and his francs (darraghmac), Tuesday, 29 April 2014 22:52 (ten years ago) link
please temp-ban Thatcher from the Reagan Is Dead thread
― am0n, Wednesday, 28 May 2014 16:57 (ten years ago) link
happy 30th birthday mordy
― Little Saint Hugh of Lincoln (nakhchivan), Thursday, 29 May 2014 14:03 (ten years ago) link
I'll echo that if u rescind yr scurrilous attempts to slander me across the boards this past week
― dn/ac (darraghmac), Thursday, 29 May 2014 14:08 (ten years ago) link
i'm sorry, you're alright deems :)
― Mordy, Thursday, 29 May 2014 14:28 (ten years ago) link
mordyfied
― dn/ac (darraghmac), Thursday, 29 May 2014 14:33 (ten years ago) link
inshallah deems
― Little Saint Hugh of Lincoln (nakhchivan), Thursday, 29 May 2014 14:33 (ten years ago) link
nakh shared this quote w/ me about thatcher:
There had never been a cabinet with so many Jewish men - me, Michael Howard, Leon Brittan. I wondered why, and the conclusion I came to is not that she had a thing for Jews, but that she was one of those rare politicians without the faintest whiff of antisemitism.― Mordy, Tuesday, 9 April 2013 14:45 (1 year ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
Nakh being in Thatcher's cabinet does explain a lot
― Neil S, Tuesday, 9 April 2013 14:46 (1 year ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
and i think , tbh, that the majority of the anti-thatcher sentiment on ilx might well have its root there as opposed to the policies that so many of them apologise for under nu-labour
― rust in pieces (darraghmac), Tuesday, 9 April 2013 14:47 (1 year ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
Well you're the expert on British politics after all
― Tom D (Tom D.), Tuesday, 9 April 2013 14:47 (1 year ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
i've got critical distance tbftm
― rust in pieces (darraghmac), Tuesday, 9 April 2013 14:49 (1 year ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
Nowhere near enough distance if you ask me
― Tom D (Tom D.), Tuesday, 9 April 2013 14:49 (1 year ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
jealous cos we managed the break in 1921 imo
― rust in pieces (darraghmac), Tuesday, 9 April 2013 14:50 (1 year ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
You'd never guess
― Tom D (Tom D.), Tuesday, 9 April 2013 14:50 (1 year ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
well we have a functioning labour party, it's true
― rust in pieces (darraghmac), Tuesday, 9 April 2013 14:51 (1 year ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
quality exchange tom d is a high value poster imo
― dn/ac (darraghmac), Thursday, 29 May 2014 14:52 (ten years ago) link
xp i used to work on a donations/charity hotline collecting for the Gujarat drought appeal and they insisted we answer the phone asalaam alai kum and the person on to their end would immediately panic and through the phone to their grandad who would then crankily reprimand me in their own tongue because I had started it then hand back to the kid who could work the phone and organise the donation then I had to finish with waali kum salaam even after all the trouble and they'd be like write whatever bro
― dn/ac (darraghmac), Thursday, 29 May 2014 14:57 (ten years ago) link
lol
― lag∞n, Friday, 30 May 2014 01:21 (ten years ago) link
haha
― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Friday, 30 May 2014 04:56 (ten years ago) link