Suggest Ban Suggestion

Upon (accidentally, if you like) clicking "Suggest Ban" on one of your own posts, could the system display a screen that says: "lol u just suggest bannd urself!!"

just a thought.

uh

when you vote twice in a poll, there's a helpful 'you done voted' page.

but while i'm pretty sure i've sug'd (redacted) multiple times, i can't be sure, and the equivalent page would be really helpful.

How depressing. Can you really imagine? Plus I'd have about 17 usernames by now if that were the case.

OH THIS ONE'S DONE THEN? GOD FORBID. I SUPPOSE "EARL TROMBONO" WILL HAVE TO HAVE HIS SAY

Tom, you mentioned that I have a high count of suggest bans. Can you tell me what happens if the count reaches the limit? Will I be automatically banned, even if I'd done nothing that goes against ILX guidelines? Or will the mods evaluate suggest bans to see whether or not they are valid before anyone gets banned?

if I understand, you will get autobanned, but mods can rescind it if they so choose?

how on earth would the mods judge validity???

let's not do this

how on earth would the mods judge validity???

As far as I know, ILX has always has guidelines on what sort of behaviour is acceptable and what will get you banned. Those guidelines were last laid out in this thread. I assumed the purpose of suggest bans was to inform mods about someone breaking those guidelines, so they can decide if he should be banned. If this isn't so, and anyone with enought suggest bans will get anyone automatically banned regardless of what they've actually done, then people might get banned for being unpopular, or having unpopular opinions, or merely as a joke. I'd say that's a bit unfair.

t-boz it already happened, they killed deeznuts

tuomas we have a little saying here in the USA which goes "life isn't fair"

77: oh no nobody consulted the popular vote on what to do about private boards. Mods are acting by fiat!
SB: oh no people could get banned by popular vote. Mods must act by fiat!

Those are different issues. I'd say creating secret boards is a decision that carries more weight than clicking suggest ban for lols, or because you disagree with someone's opinion a movie. I think democratic decisions are good in general, but there should be also certain guidelines that limit those decisions, so things don't descent to mob rule.

Anyway, my main point is that if "democratic" banning is now a rule in ILX, there was never announcement made about the change, and the FAQ still doesn't exist. I was still under the impression that banning happened according to the guidelines laid out in the thread I linked. If ILX admins want to have a new system for banning, then sure, it's their choice, but I would find this new direction kinda sad, because it might lead to anyone with unpopular views getting banned because of them. I don't really understand what was wrong with then old system, or why autobanning was introduced in the first place.

http://middledigit.net/wp-content/uploads/2007/09/square-leg-dance-_1.gif

I think democratic decisions are good in general, but there should be also certain guidelines that limit those decisions, so things don't descent to mob rule.

http://filipspagnoli.files.wordpress.com/2008/06/plato.jpg

ilx went from The Republic to The Laws so quickly I hardly noticed.

clicking suggest ban for lols, or because you disagree with someone's opinion a movie.

nobody's SB'ing you for these reasons, so i guess you can relax, right?

Well, I wonder what the reasons are then, because as far as I know I haven't done anything that would go against the guidelines as summarized by Pash in that thread.

I mean, if the reason is that I criticized secret boards, I didn't know that subject was forbidden.

it's just that you're a really annoying troll.

By what definition?

well played, sir.

lol

ha ha, the pic
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internet_troll

ha why is it holding a ruler

The first time you SB someone is the only one that counts towards actual banning, right?

does it wear off after a while tho - this is what im unclear on - cause if the suggestions last forever we will all be ded eventually

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fin_(troll)

if everyone who got more pussy than tuomas was required to SB him, but no one else was permitted to, would he get 51 votes?

(a koan)

its a race between u 2 really

hey, we all know bono goes first

(u koany)

hey, can the mods put together a beat combo called the suggest band? i think it would really improve the ILX user experience. thanks!!

remember this thread

moderation request: democratic bans

tuomas, you aren't even in the top 5 SB peeps.

I will give you a thought experiment to work out on your own time though:

an ilx poster (lets call him Timmis) discovers that he has a surprising number of suggest bans. Timmis is very invested in his ilx experience, and does not wish to lose it. he goes on a journey of self-discovery, and discovers how to stem the inexonerable slide to exile by changing one thing about his posting style. Which of the following is most likely to have been the pattern of behavior that he recognized was the problem?

A) disagreements on movie taste
B) his variance from general opinion on musical matters
C) a minor "oversharing" problem
D) kept wasting everyones time with endless philosophical handwringing about how ilx is unfair on the mod request/IMP boards.

*note: one alternate answer is worth partial credit

so does it still kick in at a certain number or do mods just keep an eye on it?

kicks in at 51

no one is currently over 40. plz do not take that as a challenge.

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ay john justen do ban suggestions expire with time ??????

IMPORTANT QUESTION^

nope.

so every ilxors destiny is to be eventually suggest band

i think i have a suggest ban i would take back, but don't remember who

yah even the most well liked poster will eventually reach 51 just from lolbans

a suggestion from the banner

i get that were not allowed to know how many suggest bans a given user has but are we allowed to find out how many we ourselves have, and by "we" i mean "me"

Like how you - and only you - had access to your secret files kept by the high school principal that YOU COULD REQUEST TO SEE AT ANY GIVEN TIME but never did.

ya exactly

ok is suggest ban a 1 to 1, poster to poster relationship? like if A doesn't like what B wrote so he SB's him, and then later on in the thread doesn't like some other shit B is on, and SB's him again, does the 2nd one count?

i dont think it does--you only can sb someone once

Let's just reboot ILX and start over.

we do that once a year anyway. posters do not get to decide when.

A) disagreements on movie taste
B) his variance from general opinion on musical matters
C) a minor "oversharing" problem
D) kept wasting everyones time with endless philosophical handwringing about how ilx is unfair on the mod request/IMP boards.

Even if it is D, "endless" (i.e. lasted about 20 posts) philosophical handwringing about ILX policies wasn't considered a bannable offence before, and I don't think it should be in the future, because that would mean people can't disagree about things without getting punished. But you never answered my original question: will anyone who gets enough suggest bans get banned automatically, or will the mods first decide whether or not the suggest bans are valid? Are there still certain guidelines on what is banworthy behaviour and what's not, or is anything theoretically a bannable offence, if it gets you enough suggest bans? I'm not asking about this just because I fear about myself getting banned, but because, if true, this would be a major change in ILX moderation that was never really announced or discussed, it merely "happened" with the code change.

so does it still kick in at a certain number or do mods just keep an eye on it?

― bnw, Thursday, December 18, 2008 10:58 AM (1 hour ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

kicks in at 51

― VISION QUEST TO KNOCK YOU UP (John Justen), Thursday, December 18, 2008 11:00 AM (1 hour ago) Bookmark

because that would mean people can't disagree about things without getting punished.

everyone -- including you -- knows this isn't true

people disagree plenty, here. about everything. only the truly useless irritating fuckheads have gotten themselves to 51, why do you keep talking about SB as if it enforces orthodoxy? it doesn't, you know it doesn't.

look tuomas if you get 51'd you can just come back under another name - sure your unwitting trolling and nonsense board lawyering wouldn't have the same ring if you weren't posting as "Tuomas" but i'm sure "2omas" or something would suffice

tuomas if any poster is so annoying to everyone else that they collect 51 individual votes, when almost nobody else can even manage to get more than five, then they get banned.

the major change was discussed among moderators, and both I and JJ disagreed with it because we thought our usual meta snark suspects would stuff the ballot box and campaign for the banning of people they didn't like. that never happened - what did happen was that two of the most regularly annoying posters who consistently toed the trolling line without ever really crossing it finally got themselves kicked off the board by 51 individual users who were sick to death of their shit.

http://i53.photobucket.com/albums/g64/hiphopruckus/2pac.jpg

Can we get a photoshop on this to mark the occasion?

and we've had this thread before and you aren't going to change anything with these arguments and they don't hold water with any of the moderators and if you REALLY don't like it and think it's terrible then you are absolutely 100% free to take your ideas to another part of the internet, nobody will stop you.

Who were they? deeznuts and __?