Yo is it true Dom Passantino got permabanned by a moderator after a clusterfuck beef???

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no. from what i understand, dom is permabanned because of a complete inability to accept that constant abuse of other posters on the site is unacceptable and his lack of a willingness to adjust his behavior into something that isnt completely entitled and self-righteous. this has been illustrated by repeated offenses, and has been met with many complaints. on top of this, he has a tendency to respond to any questioning of his right to do anything he wants without consequence with more personal abuse, often directed towards mods and their supposed inability or inadequacy to do their jobs, which has generally been shrugged off far more on this site than it would be on any other site that has unpaid, volunteer modding. also, i just went through the suggestban system and discovered that due to gaming it with multiple logins and getting his count reset when his screenname needed to be removed in order to temp ban him because of a (now fixed) glitch in the system, he was significantly over 51 and therefore suggbanned already.

i was not the one who banned him, but having taken the time to take a look at a few things, im pretty sure he is going to stay banned.

also, if you want these sorts of issues taken seriously and dealt with honestly and directly in the future, i would suggest being direct and not making a sly, wacky nudge-nudge thread title, because i was tempted not to bother with this.

they always say you never really understand a ban until it hits someone close to you.... i laughed at tuomas, burt, deezy and gabb, but this hurt... it hurts bad

something tells me he'll be back

^^ stage 1

pretty direct qn in the thread title imo

FUCK YOU, MAX! FUCK DO YOU KNOW?!

Guys, can we just let him post on 77? Please?

God, this sucks. I'm so bummed.

Ah, who gives a shit, really.

pouring out a 40 of boss hogg malt liquor for my italiano
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its something we've all said to another ilxor... "IF U WERE BANNED TOMORROW, I WOULDNT GO 2 UR THREAD OF MISSING CUZ ID B BANNED 4 STARTING A 600-POST THREAD ABOUT DA MOTHA FUKER THAT BANNED U"... but i never thought i'd have to actually do it

its on
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dude was suggbanned, the 51 have spoken, let go

It was revenge for Billy Batts, and a lot of other things. And there was nothing that we could do about it. Batts was a made man, and Tommy wasn't. And we had to sit still and take it. It was among the Italians. It was real greaseball shit. They even shot Tommy in the face so his mother couldn't give him an open coffin at the funeral.

God, this sucks. I'm so bummed.

― stanton in the shadows of brotown (Whiney G. Weingarten), Thursday, March 5, 2009 12:08 PM (1 minute ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

Ah, who gives a shit, really.

― stanton in the shadows of brotown (Whiney G. Weingarten), Thursday, March 5, 2009 12:09 PM (1 minute ago)

^^take a journey throu the mind of an ilxor

thru*

whiney was making a labored "5 stages of grief" joek

damn this is hittin me hard... miss ya till im with ya dom ;_;

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what a gay message bord

I think this smacks of a bullying mentality, and I also don't see what stops people from registering a load of sockpuppet accounts just to gang up and get rid of a poster they don't like. Do the 51 people who took the trouble to stalk Dom by suggest banning him ACROSS HIS DIFFERENT ACCOUNTS really outweight the many times that number that enjoyed his posts? I don't want to be a stick in the mud, but if this is the way ILX is going then I for one continues for 1500 words

i am spartacus

Has anyone seen my banned associate? Looks like this -> ;_;

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i made it through the 70s by the skin of my balls when the colombos were going at it but this week has been brutal.

what a gay message bord

― michael, Thursday, March 5, 2009 12:21 PM (21 minutes ago)

Thursday, March 5, 2009 12:26 PM Site michael has been banned permanently.
Thursday, March 5, 2009 12:26 PM Site michael has been banned permanently.

Whiney's 5 stages so much more awesome than revive of every thread with words Dom or Passantino in the title, ugh

ugh

ugk

banned what

Thursday, March 5, 2009 12:45 PM Site pasantino R.I.P. - pour out a 40 of boss hogg (and what) has been temporarily banned.

lolll

man this is like the end of that movie the godfather

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l-r: dom, and what

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ILX moderator pondering a world with no-one left to ban

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Thursday, March 5, 2009 1:29 PM Site pasantino R.I.P. - pour out a 40 of boss hogg (and what) has been banned permanently.

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ok it'd be hilarious if the thing that gets ethan banned permanently is not any of the mean shit he's pulled but instead it's because of that ridic biggie thing. i'm sorry but it's funny guys!!

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lol schef I am currently investigating but it looks like that's precisely what happened

ok whatever you do please just don't lift gabbneb's ban

^^^

i think it's 100% undeniable that everyone is in favor of sb-ing being perma - mods should unban after 7 days or something

except if it is gabbneb

those two sentences contradict each other

Uh, did you mean to say NOT being perma? xpost

ok whatever you do please just don't lift gabbneb's ban

ok whatever you do please just don't lift gabbneb's ban

ok whatever you do please just don't lift gabbneb's ban

ok whatever you do please just don't lift gabbneb's ban

ok whatever you do please just don't lift gabbneb's ban

Uh, did you mean to say NOT being perma? xpost

― WmC, Thursday, March 5, 2009 1:12 PM (9 seconds ago) Bookmark

yeah

seriously for a second here guys,

You know, I honestly don't think anyone can look at a single one of the 8 bans and be all babe in the woods about it and go "WEEEALLY?! HOW DID THAT HAPPEN?"

uh bro i was actually under the impression it was the other way around? (xp to jordan)

ban elmer fudd

jj, dan has been "See, the system works!" all week. I'm sorry if you feel lumped in but that doesn't invalidate anything.

lol nevermind xxp

"WEEEALLY?! HOW DID THAT HAPPEN?"

who is doing this

dudes he was just spamming like 20 different threads with an enormous biggie airbrush painting tribute -- it doesn't seem likely to any of you that at least SOME of the ppl clicking on those threads hit suggest ban?

i knew it was going to be trouble when i saw he had spammed the Woody Allen speech thread.

"WEEEALLY?! HOW DID THAT HAPPEN?"

who is doing this

― mas how i break it down tuo an extent (goole), Thursday, March 5, 2009 2:13 PM (24 seconds ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

Your 500 SB fanfic posts are implying it for starters.

jj, dan has been "See, the system works!" all week. I'm sorry if you feel lumped in but that doesn't invalidate anything.

The reason I've been saying this is because the system does actually work. I'm sorry if it's taking out people you like; I agree that the Tuomas situation is debatable even though I have made up my mind on it but you can't honestly tell me that the people who've been hit by suggest bans weren't doing things that would otherwise result in a ban.

Actual correct place for this:

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Do individual SBs fall off the table over time? That is, if someone's a jackass early in their posting history, and racks up 45 SB, then calms down and becomes a constructive poster, do 6 more SB -- even if they're done as jokes or spaced out over a year's time -- result in a permanent ban?

(Trust me, I'm not trying to be a "Board Lawyer" or whatever. Just curious.)

This isn't like the Godfather, it's like the gasoline fight scene in Zoolander.

They stick around. We don't have any type of mechanism in place for them to automatically fade away and we don't have a process in place where a certain number are deducted after a period of time. Some type of fade-out period would be a good addition to this IMO but it isn't there yet, which is one reason why I think moderator review is an essential component of this.

I'm finding this really difficult to view as anything other than hilarious right now because I have yet to see any justification as to why the people who got themselves banned today aren't complete idiots who walked right into it.

The thing that consistently amazes me on these threads is the assumption that a few mods and the people who post on meta threads somehow represent the full spectrum of ILX opinion, whereas there are hundreds of posters who have opinions about the boards but never post on these threads because they are ridiculous clusterfucks. Some of those people almost certainly helped push, say, Ethan over the edge.

I know that for a handful of people this means daddy won't be coming home for Christmas, but I can only really imagine one of today's banned posters never being allowed to post again.

The thing that consistently amazes me on these threads is the assumption that a few mods and the people who post on meta threads somehow represent the full spectrum of ILX opinion, whereas there are hundreds of posters who have opinions about the boards but never post on these threads because they are ridiculous clusterfucks. Some of those people almost certainly helped push, say, Ethan over the edge.

if they aren't voicing their opinions, do their opinions matter?

Yes, they do.

i have opinions

if a zinger zings someone in the woods, can anyone hear the zing?

J0rdan that is kind of the saddest post i have ever seen on ilx when it comes to the attitudes underlying this sort of stuff.

i was half-trolling tbf but you guys are always like "so many other people have opinions!" - who are these people?

schef, i didn't know if u were u for a couple days now, bcz of the extra parenthetical in ure name

Also this:

like one of the board's most recognizable posters was banned and it was expected that people would just continue to chat about lost or prince vs. bowie or something?

Like YES THEY ARE. All over the boards right now! Dozens if not hundreds of them!

besides "other people who post"

kevin john bozelka and myonga von bontee?

underestimation of how much pull personality has on a board like this?

do you seriously want someone to list the names of every ilxor besides the 15 who get involved in these threads?

what this is actually getting into is that ilx is not a place where everyone has equal footing; not even close.

j0rdan they are the people voting to ban e when he posts a big spamflood in the middle of some random innocuous thread they are reading obv. my guess is that many of them have no idea who famous ilx poster "and what" is to be fair.

xposts

"equal footing" with respect to what?

And re: Tuomas, I cannot say this 100% but it is leaning towards his ban eventually being lifted as well.

― Wes HI DEREson (HI DERE), Thursday, March 5, 2009 2:07 PM (24 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

Dan, serious question, which I only ask in this thread because that's where you posted this: is anyone really sticking to the conviction or illusion that any bans will be truly permanent unless actively overturned by mods? And is there really that much varation in the 'severity of the crime' from one SB'd poster to the next that a standard length of time for the ban can't be instituted? Because I think most people are more unnerved by the idea that each ban is some undefined length of time than that anyone believes it'll be permanent. I mean, a lot of us have been here 5+ years including many of the banned, and it seems crazy to think that they shouldn't be able to come back in a month or a year or two and given the chance to irritate us well into old age. I mean short of someone guilty of malicious hacking or posting childp0rn or something that could literally endanger the board, I don't see the harm.

i have opinions but all my opinions have been stated fairly clearly and at some length by other posters multiple times already on these threads without any effect so there doesn't really seem to be much point in contributing more text to the internet about it

I don't want to speak for all mods but I reckon the majority of the people who get SB'ed will be allowed back in. Those who aren't will most likely be the exception rather than the rule.

Bans are an interesting topic to lurk and a welcome break from poll voting.

OK, but is that judged on the basis of why they got banned, or by whether there's an ethan/tuomas-level outcry vs. gabbneb-level lack of protest, or what?

xpost

i mean i got no love for gabbneb but i would kinda feel bad for dude if his ban was much longer than others' simply because of the lack of a vocal fanbase

Dan, serious question, which I only ask in this thread because that's where you posted this: is anyone really sticking to the conviction or illusion that any bans will be truly permanent unless actively overturned by mods? And is there really that much varation in the 'severity of the crime' from one SB'd poster to the next that a standard length of time for the ban can't be instituted? Because I think most people are more unnerved by the idea that each ban is some undefined length of time than that anyone believes it'll be permanent. I mean, a lot of us have been here 5+ years including many of the banned, and it seems crazy to think that they shouldn't be able to come back in a month or a year or two and given the chance to irritate us well into old age. I mean short of someone guilty of malicious hacking or posting childp0rn or something that could literally endanger the board, I don't see the harm.

ding ding ding

TBH the only SB'ed poster I would be inclined to never let back in is Deeznuts. It has nothing to do with the level of outcry.

If a poster is THAT obnoxious and destructive an influence the chances are they will be Permabanned by a site mod way before they have the opportunity to get to 51 suggest bans.

Matt OTM. There's no standard period of time because no one proposed it before the suggest ban mechanism was turned on and that is probably one of two major failures in process here (the other being the non-expiring suggest ban count). I would stress, however, that the mods are not irrational or unreasonable, particularly when dealt with rationally and reasonably.

Some of it is going to be based on outcry, although not necessarily in the direction you mean (today's outcry made me want to actively campaign for Ethan to stay banned forever even though I think that's not the correct way to deal with things when looking at the situation rationally). Some of it is going to be based on the behavior of the poster before the ban happened; Tuomas was being irritating but ultimately harmless, whereas Ethan was actively spamming threads with stupid shit. Gabbneb is a more difficult case because there are instances where he was genuinely hilarious and others where he was genuinely creepy/off-putting.

Ultimately I wish I could turn on the "Get Along" feature and not have to deal with this.

well, deeznuts is the only one that's widely believed to be a sockpuppet, isn't he?

xpost

Ultimately I wish I could turn on the "Get Along" feature and not have to deal with this.

so don't be a mod?

wow that never occurred to me, you are so helpful

np