Bookish. it's like redactle but for books. beta testing / bugs etc

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these are all still from the top 75 downloads at project Gutenberg. yes, one i haven't read, but, oddly it was mentioned in the podcast i was listening to this morning.

koogs, Saturday, 11 June 2022 09:36 (two years ago) link

I got the authors name straight away, struggling to remember the title.

dear confusion the catastrophe waitress (ledge), Saturday, 11 June 2022 11:38 (two years ago) link

I remembered. definitely an odd entry for the top 75 and not one you could work out if you didn't know it.

dear confusion the catastrophe waitress (ledge), Saturday, 11 June 2022 13:16 (two years ago) link

the weekly top 100 or so can be a bit faddish, i find. and there are some obvious things that aren't in it.

anyway, i have another 20 games ready to go, another 20 or so downloaded and awaiting editing. another 20 things on my want-to-read list 8(

koogs, Saturday, 11 June 2022 15:53 (two years ago) link


1 6373 the
2 3757 and
3 3144 of
4 2730 to
5 2633 a
6 1876 in
7 1773 i
8 1523 he
9 1483 was
10 1358 it
11 1320 that
12 881 his
13 874 with
14 871 for
15 853 as
16 832 is
17 781 had
18 772 you
19 764 not
20 698 at
21 683 but
22 664 on
23 577 be
24 569 all
25 564 we
26 548 her
27 536 have
28 520 my
29 491 they
30 468 by
31 457 there
32 453 she
33 450 him
34 442 so
35 437 which
36 427 this
37 426 me
38 397 one
39 392 from
40 388 were
41 383 said
42 359 no
43 352 are
44 344 or
45 326 when
46 325 out
47 323 would
48 310 what
49 305 who
50 301 them

again i'm thinking about difficulty levels... top 45 for easy mode, 30 for medium, 15 for hard...

koogs, Sunday, 12 June 2022 12:41 (two years ago) link

yeah Carmilla, i guess the easy way in was the author's name, which is quite odd given the 4 words.

today's is easier

koogs, Sunday, 12 June 2022 12:43 (two years ago) link

I got today's in 7 after rattling off some two letter words without thinking, should've been a bit sharper.

dear confusion the catastrophe waitress (ledge), Sunday, 12 June 2022 12:48 (two years ago) link

> today's is easier

especially with the 30 free words now. 8(

koogs, Sunday, 12 June 2022 12:53 (two years ago) link

(i think ledge got in before the update)

koogs, Sunday, 12 June 2022 12:54 (two years ago) link

Honestly, as a player who just plays for the fun of it, rather than getting the best score, I'd actually prefer *no* words filled in at the start. I don't mind typing in filler words, but trying to work out which ones are needed and which ones aren't is slightly annoying to me.

emil.y, Sunday, 12 June 2022 13:19 (two years ago) link

ha, that's like the opposite of what other people want...

i will add options (eventually). need to learn how to store options first though...

koogs, Sunday, 12 June 2022 13:38 (two years ago) link

(i don't disagree, i mean today's had 60% of the title in the free words)

koogs, Sunday, 12 June 2022 13:39 (two years ago) link

Yeah, I figured I'd be in the minority in that opinion. It's just a bit weird if "he" is already filled in but you still have to put in "his" etc. One option is to fill in more of the words, but another option is to fill in way fewer. Maybe just the articles, the basic conjunctions ('and'/'but') and participles of 'to be'. That would still risk giving away some titles ('The _____ is a ______ ______' for instance) but would be an understandable format for why those particular filler words are given.

emil.y, Sunday, 12 June 2022 13:49 (two years ago) link

And I will say that 'The ____ of the ____' is fairly nondescript and could apply to several titles! Obviously the lower-score seekers will pinpoint those possibilities and do the letter-counting thing to narrow it down, but I played happily for a good while before even attempting the title (it was fairly simple to get, true).

emil.y, Sunday, 12 June 2022 13:55 (two years ago) link

I wonder if you could leave the title fully redacted even if it has free filler words in, or if that would be too confusing.

dear confusion the catastrophe waitress (ledge), Sunday, 12 June 2022 15:00 (two years ago) link

yeah, i did think of a fully redacted title but it'd require you to enter reserved words to reveal them, which is currently trapped.

(um, could also remove reserved words from the internal title array, you won't be able to enter them and won't ever see them until it's solved, which seems a bit off)

today has mostly been trying to stop the unwanted scrolling. turns out the page width isn't 100% because of the vertical scroll bars. and using that space adds a horizontal scroll bar... i am getting there...

(and adding games up to the end of the month, and beyond)

koogs, Sunday, 12 June 2022 17:14 (two years ago) link

new version at new url - https://acdean.github.io/bookish/ - let github do the hosting, also easier for me to update - no ftp...

cracked the layout, i think. boxes are the right size and scroll as they should (nice new purple scroll markers too). some of the text needs resizing (the guesses list) and the about and previous buttons are placeholders. html still not great for this layout stuff.

this version also has the hard redacting. no counting characters for you!

koogs, Sunday, 12 June 2022 22:42 (two years ago) link

and all of a sudden it was a quarter to midnight...

koogs, Sunday, 12 June 2022 22:43 (two years ago) link

https://acdean.github.io/bookish/

now with options - add as many words as you like, choose the redacting block type (3 different styles). choose from the previous games. marvel at the finally centred list of guesses.

koogs, Monday, 13 June 2022 20:15 (two years ago) link

https://acdean.github.io/bookish/index.html <- same link not hindered by ilx hyperlink bug!

koogs, Monday, 13 June 2022 20:16 (two years ago) link

I like the options! Yesterday's was a gimme, today's... not so much. I guessed le and la at 230 but forgot about les (and didn't linger on the title or author) for another 250 guesses.

dear confusion the catastrophe waitress (ledge), Tuesday, 14 June 2022 09:33 (two years ago) link

these aren't obscure books by any means and it still takes hundreds of guesses, unless the title's obvious.

(although this one starts a bit atypically iirc. the fact there are 3 levels of numbering is maybe a clue that it's a long book, but, yes, it is a bit sneaky)

the recent penguin classics version translates the title, at least in the intro, but the cover is the usual. would 'The Wretched' have helped though?

koogs, Tuesday, 14 June 2022 10:17 (two years ago) link


bookish 20220615
total guesses: 36
total hits: 34
total misses: 2
percentage correct: 94

the 30 words i added at the start really up the percentage because they are pretty much guaranteed to be hits (but not always). in redactle they wouldn't count towards the total or the percentage. maybe i should do the same.

koogs, Wednesday, 15 June 2022 10:56 (two years ago) link

Took me 337, and I got it only after I decided to guess possible authors.

dear confusion the catastrophe waitress (ledge), Wednesday, 15 June 2022 12:57 (two years ago) link

i had to remove the accent 8(

koogs, Wednesday, 15 June 2022 13:10 (two years ago) link

You usually get a bit of a "vibe" off the work after a while (is it spooky? Stuffy? Romantic?) but it took me ages to get anything off this one - took me guessing until I'd revealed "I beheld his black eyes" and then I had it straight away.

I definitely play pretty differently to other people but I confess I did get a great satisfaction out of getting Crime and Punishment in only two guesses.

emil.y, Wednesday, 15 June 2022 15:32 (two years ago) link

updates at https://acdean.github.io/bookish/index.html - be sure to hit ctrl-f5 because its a bit stubborn about using the old version otherwise.

no visual changes (oh, i really need to add a version number) but better behaviour of the guess list - click on a previous guess to re-highlight that word. re-entering a word does the same. redactle has this nailed, i am slowly getting there.

koogs, Wednesday, 15 June 2022 21:19 (two years ago) link

20220616 - after nearly 300 guesses I don't know what the hell this is but I like it. (Hope I haven't read it before and forgotten!)

dear confusion the catastrophe waitress (ledge), Thursday, 16 June 2022 11:26 (two years ago) link

> I don't know what the hell this is but I like it

i predict: you will regret saying this

koogs, Thursday, 16 June 2022 12:35 (two years ago) link

Just gonna hide my entire response.

fucking lol! I also thought "I don't know what it is but I like it", because it seemed particularly dark and dystopian, and I enjoy dark and dystopian. But then my eyebrow started to raise when I was uncovering that the Bad Big Brother element seemed to be communal life, and I wondered if it was some old right-wingy perspective... took me a long time to work out that it was VERY much a right-wing perspective, and oh the shame of being intrigued by it. The shame, the shame.

emil.y, Thursday, 16 June 2022 13:28 (two years ago) link

Nooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo!

I had a feeling that since it was so distinct but ringing no bells that it might be bad. But not so bad. So bad and wrong.

Oh well at least it wasn't mein kampf.

dear confusion the catastrophe waitress (ledge), Thursday, 16 June 2022 14:07 (two years ago) link

particularly hard because non-english name - ??? ???? - looks like it should be easy to guess but...

i think mein kampf is also in the list

koogs, Thursday, 16 June 2022 14:22 (two years ago) link

Didn't get todays, I haven't read it in 30+ years; title/author formatting threw me, I thought the title was the author and the subtitle/author the title.

dear confusion the catastrophe waitress (ledge), Friday, 17 June 2022 11:03 (two years ago) link

i did toy with making the (little known) subtitle part of the title, so you had to guess it, but am kinda pleased it threw people off anyway (sorry)

i went to test tomorrow's and found i couldn't remember it and got about 200 words in before i did remember. wouldn't've got it otherwise tbh.

koogs, Friday, 17 June 2022 12:28 (two years ago) link

(fwiw i always put a br between (title (and subtitle) and author) and (the rest of the text). but not always between book/volume/part/chapter+their names and the next thing)

<h1>title
(<h2>subtitle)
<h2>author
<br/>
<h2>part x
<h2>whatever
<p>it was the best of times, it was the blurst of times...

koogs, Friday, 17 June 2022 13:58 (two years ago) link

I don't mind really, it's more fun trying to guess without using title/author - I might start not looking at them at all at the beginning.

dear confusion the catastrophe waitress (ledge), Friday, 17 June 2022 14:04 (two years ago) link

have up after 200 today, worried that there was a bug. turns out i just can't remember famous book titles i spent 10 minutes editing about a week ago.

koogs, Sunday, 19 June 2022 11:13 (two years ago) link

That took me far longer than a book I know and like should have done!

emil.y, Sunday, 19 June 2022 13:10 (two years ago) link

such me as difficult because the title was a name - you weren't going to chance upon it whilst entering English words

koogs, Sunday, 19 June 2022 18:04 (two years ago) link

struck me as...

koogs, Sunday, 19 June 2022 18:04 (two years ago) link

I went for 250 guesses without looking at the author or title. Too hard. I guessed don at 296 but got no hits - maybe there was a space at the end, do you trim the input? it worked 30 guesses later, after I tried la and then mancha.

dear confusion the catastrophe waitress (ledge), Sunday, 19 June 2022 18:27 (two years ago) link

> maybe there was a space at the end

yeah, don't do that!

(fixed. now restricts input to a-z 0-9 and apostrophe)

also fixed something i noticed yesterday - it should scroll to the word in the guess list if you've entered it before

koogs, Sunday, 19 June 2022 20:14 (two years ago) link

today's obviously by some kook, got it from the title in 68 (I never studied him in philosophy, didn't even recognise the title as one of his)

dear confusion the catastrophe waitress (ledge), Monday, 20 June 2022 08:53 (two years ago) link

today's in 287 without ref to title or author, man riding in carriage to strange place with someone warning him of untoward happenings 'to-night'. could've been a bit quicker, i find it usually takes at least 100 boilerplate words before i can start narrowing it down though.

dear confusion the catastrophe waitress (ledge), Tuesday, 21 June 2022 14:44 (two years ago) link

i know the phrase Beyond Good And Evil from the Pop Group song more than the book.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JySQE4axlJY

koogs, Tuesday, 21 June 2022 18:04 (two years ago) link

Something up today, page won’t load correctly.

Dan Worsley, Saturday, 2 July 2022 07:46 (two years ago) link

looks like i only applied the 'add " to end of line' editor macro to the bottom of the file and didn't test it.

i think 0630 was also broken but i fixed it about 7:30. i have game files til the 6th, about 50 more that need uploading. and obviously i need to test them better than i have been (or at all)

koogs, Saturday, 2 July 2022 11:47 (two years ago) link

i think the big plan for this is to do 366 files and drop the year from the filenames so it's playable on a year long loop (with the last month or so playable at any time via the 'previous' list (and more if you hack the url), does that seem reasonable?). are there 366 famous books? 8)

(i can actually do new books by ripping the first chapters from amazon kindle previews, but that's often hard work. or i can use things that i own)

koogs, Saturday, 2 July 2022 11:55 (two years ago) link

(renaming done. that's introduced a bug where it'll break on the 1st january because it'll think the date has gone backwards but i have 6 months to fix that. the check is only there to stop people playing future games)

koogs, Saturday, 2 July 2022 12:17 (two years ago) link

(0404 is the latest)

koogs, Friday, 12 May 2023 14:37 (one year ago) link

https://acdean.github.io/bookish/

ok, tidied that up now - if it can't find a game for 'today' then it'll link to the new archive page that lists all available games so you can choose.

if anyone has ideas for books to add then let me know. (the full list of 306 (spoilers!) is at https://acdean.github.io/bookish/titles.txt)

koogs, Sunday, 14 May 2023 13:49 (one year ago) link


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