Bookish. it's like redactle but for books. beta testing / bugs etc

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I got today's in 7 after rattling off some two letter words without thinking, should've been a bit sharper.

dear confusion the catastrophe waitress (ledge), Sunday, 12 June 2022 12:48 (three years ago)

> today's is easier

especially with the 30 free words now. 8(

koogs, Sunday, 12 June 2022 12:53 (three years ago)

(i think ledge got in before the update)

koogs, Sunday, 12 June 2022 12:54 (three years ago)

Honestly, as a player who just plays for the fun of it, rather than getting the best score, I'd actually prefer *no* words filled in at the start. I don't mind typing in filler words, but trying to work out which ones are needed and which ones aren't is slightly annoying to me.

emil.y, Sunday, 12 June 2022 13:19 (three years ago)

ha, that's like the opposite of what other people want...

i will add options (eventually). need to learn how to store options first though...

koogs, Sunday, 12 June 2022 13:38 (three years ago)

(i don't disagree, i mean today's had 60% of the title in the free words)

koogs, Sunday, 12 June 2022 13:39 (three years ago)

Yeah, I figured I'd be in the minority in that opinion. It's just a bit weird if "he" is already filled in but you still have to put in "his" etc. One option is to fill in more of the words, but another option is to fill in way fewer. Maybe just the articles, the basic conjunctions ('and'/'but') and participles of 'to be'. That would still risk giving away some titles ('The _____ is a ______ ______' for instance) but would be an understandable format for why those particular filler words are given.

emil.y, Sunday, 12 June 2022 13:49 (three years ago)

And I will say that 'The ____ of the ____' is fairly nondescript and could apply to several titles! Obviously the lower-score seekers will pinpoint those possibilities and do the letter-counting thing to narrow it down, but I played happily for a good while before even attempting the title (it was fairly simple to get, true).

emil.y, Sunday, 12 June 2022 13:55 (three years ago)

I wonder if you could leave the title fully redacted even if it has free filler words in, or if that would be too confusing.

dear confusion the catastrophe waitress (ledge), Sunday, 12 June 2022 15:00 (three years ago)

yeah, i did think of a fully redacted title but it'd require you to enter reserved words to reveal them, which is currently trapped.

(um, could also remove reserved words from the internal title array, you won't be able to enter them and won't ever see them until it's solved, which seems a bit off)

today has mostly been trying to stop the unwanted scrolling. turns out the page width isn't 100% because of the vertical scroll bars. and using that space adds a horizontal scroll bar... i am getting there...

(and adding games up to the end of the month, and beyond)

koogs, Sunday, 12 June 2022 17:14 (three years ago)

new version at new url - https://acdean.github.io/bookish/ - let github do the hosting, also easier for me to update - no ftp...

cracked the layout, i think. boxes are the right size and scroll as they should (nice new purple scroll markers too). some of the text needs resizing (the guesses list) and the about and previous buttons are placeholders. html still not great for this layout stuff.

this version also has the hard redacting. no counting characters for you!

koogs, Sunday, 12 June 2022 22:42 (three years ago)

and all of a sudden it was a quarter to midnight...

koogs, Sunday, 12 June 2022 22:43 (three years ago)

https://acdean.github.io/bookish/

now with options - add as many words as you like, choose the redacting block type (3 different styles). choose from the previous games. marvel at the finally centred list of guesses.

koogs, Monday, 13 June 2022 20:15 (three years ago)

https://acdean.github.io/bookish/index.html <- same link not hindered by ilx hyperlink bug!

koogs, Monday, 13 June 2022 20:16 (three years ago)

I like the options! Yesterday's was a gimme, today's... not so much. I guessed le and la at 230 but forgot about les (and didn't linger on the title or author) for another 250 guesses.

dear confusion the catastrophe waitress (ledge), Tuesday, 14 June 2022 09:33 (three years ago)

these aren't obscure books by any means and it still takes hundreds of guesses, unless the title's obvious.

(although this one starts a bit atypically iirc. the fact there are 3 levels of numbering is maybe a clue that it's a long book, but, yes, it is a bit sneaky)

the recent penguin classics version translates the title, at least in the intro, but the cover is the usual. would 'The Wretched' have helped though?

koogs, Tuesday, 14 June 2022 10:17 (three years ago)


bookish 20220615
total guesses: 36
total hits: 34
total misses: 2
percentage correct: 94

the 30 words i added at the start really up the percentage because they are pretty much guaranteed to be hits (but not always). in redactle they wouldn't count towards the total or the percentage. maybe i should do the same.

koogs, Wednesday, 15 June 2022 10:56 (three years ago)

Took me 337, and I got it only after I decided to guess possible authors.

dear confusion the catastrophe waitress (ledge), Wednesday, 15 June 2022 12:57 (three years ago)

i had to remove the accent 8(

koogs, Wednesday, 15 June 2022 13:10 (three years ago)

You usually get a bit of a "vibe" off the work after a while (is it spooky? Stuffy? Romantic?) but it took me ages to get anything off this one - took me guessing until I'd revealed "I beheld his black eyes" and then I had it straight away.

I definitely play pretty differently to other people but I confess I did get a great satisfaction out of getting Crime and Punishment in only two guesses.

emil.y, Wednesday, 15 June 2022 15:32 (three years ago)

updates at https://acdean.github.io/bookish/index.html - be sure to hit ctrl-f5 because its a bit stubborn about using the old version otherwise.

no visual changes (oh, i really need to add a version number) but better behaviour of the guess list - click on a previous guess to re-highlight that word. re-entering a word does the same. redactle has this nailed, i am slowly getting there.

koogs, Wednesday, 15 June 2022 21:19 (three years ago)

20220616 - after nearly 300 guesses I don't know what the hell this is but I like it. (Hope I haven't read it before and forgotten!)

dear confusion the catastrophe waitress (ledge), Thursday, 16 June 2022 11:26 (three years ago)

> I don't know what the hell this is but I like it

i predict: you will regret saying this

koogs, Thursday, 16 June 2022 12:35 (three years ago)

Just gonna hide my entire response.

fucking lol! I also thought "I don't know what it is but I like it", because it seemed particularly dark and dystopian, and I enjoy dark and dystopian. But then my eyebrow started to raise when I was uncovering that the Bad Big Brother element seemed to be communal life, and I wondered if it was some old right-wingy perspective... took me a long time to work out that it was VERY much a right-wing perspective, and oh the shame of being intrigued by it. The shame, the shame.

emil.y, Thursday, 16 June 2022 13:28 (three years ago)

Nooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo!

I had a feeling that since it was so distinct but ringing no bells that it might be bad. But not so bad. So bad and wrong.

Oh well at least it wasn't mein kampf.

dear confusion the catastrophe waitress (ledge), Thursday, 16 June 2022 14:07 (three years ago)

particularly hard because non-english name - ??? ???? - looks like it should be easy to guess but...

i think mein kampf is also in the list

koogs, Thursday, 16 June 2022 14:22 (three years ago)

Didn't get todays, I haven't read it in 30+ years; title/author formatting threw me, I thought the title was the author and the subtitle/author the title.

dear confusion the catastrophe waitress (ledge), Friday, 17 June 2022 11:03 (three years ago)

i did toy with making the (little known) subtitle part of the title, so you had to guess it, but am kinda pleased it threw people off anyway (sorry)

i went to test tomorrow's and found i couldn't remember it and got about 200 words in before i did remember. wouldn't've got it otherwise tbh.

koogs, Friday, 17 June 2022 12:28 (three years ago)

(fwiw i always put a br between (title (and subtitle) and author) and (the rest of the text). but not always between book/volume/part/chapter+their names and the next thing)

<h1>title
(<h2>subtitle)
<h2>author
<br/>
<h2>part x
<h2>whatever
<p>it was the best of times, it was the blurst of times...

koogs, Friday, 17 June 2022 13:58 (three years ago)

I don't mind really, it's more fun trying to guess without using title/author - I might start not looking at them at all at the beginning.

dear confusion the catastrophe waitress (ledge), Friday, 17 June 2022 14:04 (three years ago)

have up after 200 today, worried that there was a bug. turns out i just can't remember famous book titles i spent 10 minutes editing about a week ago.

koogs, Sunday, 19 June 2022 11:13 (three years ago)

That took me far longer than a book I know and like should have done!

emil.y, Sunday, 19 June 2022 13:10 (three years ago)

such me as difficult because the title was a name - you weren't going to chance upon it whilst entering English words

koogs, Sunday, 19 June 2022 18:04 (three years ago)

struck me as...

koogs, Sunday, 19 June 2022 18:04 (three years ago)

I went for 250 guesses without looking at the author or title. Too hard. I guessed don at 296 but got no hits - maybe there was a space at the end, do you trim the input? it worked 30 guesses later, after I tried la and then mancha.

dear confusion the catastrophe waitress (ledge), Sunday, 19 June 2022 18:27 (three years ago)

> maybe there was a space at the end

yeah, don't do that!

(fixed. now restricts input to a-z 0-9 and apostrophe)

also fixed something i noticed yesterday - it should scroll to the word in the guess list if you've entered it before

koogs, Sunday, 19 June 2022 20:14 (three years ago)

today's obviously by some kook, got it from the title in 68 (I never studied him in philosophy, didn't even recognise the title as one of his)

dear confusion the catastrophe waitress (ledge), Monday, 20 June 2022 08:53 (three years ago)

today's in 287 without ref to title or author, man riding in carriage to strange place with someone warning him of untoward happenings 'to-night'. could've been a bit quicker, i find it usually takes at least 100 boilerplate words before i can start narrowing it down though.

dear confusion the catastrophe waitress (ledge), Tuesday, 21 June 2022 14:44 (three years ago)

i know the phrase Beyond Good And Evil from the Pop Group song more than the book.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JySQE4axlJY

koogs, Tuesday, 21 June 2022 18:04 (three years ago)

Something up today, page won’t load correctly.

Dan Worsley, Saturday, 2 July 2022 07:46 (three years ago)

https://github.com/acdean/acdean.github.io/commit/7e9b18c3eed818163ad7553906beb297f509b8a4

fixed...

koogs, Saturday, 2 July 2022 11:43 (three years ago)

looks like i only applied the 'add " to end of line' editor macro to the bottom of the file and didn't test it.

i think 0630 was also broken but i fixed it about 7:30. i have game files til the 6th, about 50 more that need uploading. and obviously i need to test them better than i have been (or at all)

koogs, Saturday, 2 July 2022 11:47 (three years ago)

i think the big plan for this is to do 366 files and drop the year from the filenames so it's playable on a year long loop (with the last month or so playable at any time via the 'previous' list (and more if you hack the url), does that seem reasonable?). are there 366 famous books? 8)

(i can actually do new books by ripping the first chapters from amazon kindle previews, but that's often hard work. or i can use things that i own)

koogs, Saturday, 2 July 2022 11:55 (three years ago)

(renaming done. that's introduced a bug where it'll break on the 1st january because it'll think the date has gone backwards but i have 6 months to fix that. the check is only there to stop people playing future games)

koogs, Saturday, 2 July 2022 12:17 (three years ago)

New books - or canonical non public domain ones anyway - would be fun but might make it harder.

dear confusion the catastrophe waitress (ledge), Saturday, 2 July 2022 12:23 (three years ago)

ProjGut is hardcoded at the moment, but i guess that wouldn't be too hard to change.

book suggestions welcome, but i think i'll keep it ProjGut until i run out. i envisage legal problems copying huge swathes of non-PD books.

koogs, Saturday, 2 July 2022 12:36 (three years ago)

added games up to the end of the month, roughly, and checked them all

koogs, Saturday, 2 July 2022 13:23 (three years ago)

a bug with today's, I've guessed the title (with a little help for the fourth word) but it hasn't given me the win.

dear confusion the catastrophe waitress (ledge), Thursday, 7 July 2022 13:25 (three years ago)

disappointed I didn't get yesterday's.

dear confusion the catastrophe waitress (ledge), Thursday, 7 July 2022 13:30 (three years ago)

Same bug for me. Got it quickly, too (a great book, if that isn't too much of a hint), so it was extra disappointing not to have the win display.

emil.y, Thursday, 7 July 2022 13:30 (three years ago)


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