buying a bike

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shit that is cheap. I'm not in US tho, everything is super expensive in Australia :(

And by the time I added shipping it's probably not worth it.

wilter, Wednesday, 2 July 2008 01:04 (sixteen years ago) link

Like I did look around quite a bit for frames and parts, both in aus and overseas, but I decided to just bite the bullet and do it.

wilter, Wednesday, 2 July 2008 01:09 (sixteen years ago) link

re: the purpose of a headset top cap- even when the stem is tightened, you still need something to preload the bearings in the headset. tightening the stem on the steerer doesn't exert any downward pressure on the headset by itself. but don't over tighten the top cap bolt- otherwise, your bike will steer stiffly.

mark c- are you still having the rattling/looseness problem? i'm almost 100% sure that when you flipped the stem, you didn't force the steerer tube all the way back up before putting everything back together, and now you've got some play in the headset. if you haven't already solved the problem, take the top cap off, loosen the stem, and put your bike on the ground so the fork (and steerer) are snugged up as far as they can go. then put the top cap back on, tighten it, and see if you still have the problem. also- keep in mind that the steerer should NOT be flush with the top of the stem- it should sit about 2mm down.

anyway, sorry to be long-winded. hope this helps.

ytth, Wednesday, 2 July 2008 03:26 (sixteen years ago) link

Thanks Jordan - I got back on the bike, the play seemed worse if anything, so I got out my tool, loosened the stem, tightened the topcap, made sure everything was aligned okay and woot! It worked!

Walter, have you actually bought the Bianchi? They're very pretty, I doubt you'll regret it.

Mark C, Wednesday, 2 July 2008 09:56 (sixteen years ago) link

even when the stem is tightened, you still need something to preload the bearings

think about this.

Hunt3r, Wednesday, 2 July 2008 14:47 (sixteen years ago) link

sorry to sound smug there

pretty damn sure once you tighten the stem, the steerer is loaded for good. those steerer clamps are pretty tight.

Hunt3r, Wednesday, 2 July 2008 14:58 (sixteen years ago) link

actually i think im here stupidly writing about something you didnt say ytth- gah. sorry again and back to work

Hunt3r, Wednesday, 2 July 2008 15:00 (sixteen years ago) link

xps Mark, yes I actually bought it. I'm going to put an oldish dura ace lever on it, which will make it somewhat ugly.

wilter, Friday, 4 July 2008 05:11 (sixteen years ago) link

will post pics eventually

wilter, Friday, 4 July 2008 05:11 (sixteen years ago) link

Is Recycle a Bicycle my best bet in NYC? Too bad they don't sell out of their L.I.C. workshop. Should I try East Village or DUMBO? And about how much money am I looking at for a general no frills bike?

Virginia Plain, Saturday, 5 July 2008 23:42 (sixteen years ago) link

i am buying....a bike!

Bro works at a shop is hooking me up. Thinking about pulling the trigger on a Traveler's Check since he can get me the frame at sub-$800. A Cross-Check is more likely, however.

Gonna dingle-speed it!

gbx, Saturday, 5 July 2008 23:47 (sixteen years ago) link

Is the S+S really worth it. Given that most airlines are charging for luggage now, the advantage of getting it down to luggage size is much less. Save your bucks and get a nice bag when you fly it.

Cross check is awesome though.

Ed, Sunday, 6 July 2008 12:38 (sixteen years ago) link

Me and the wife got the parents and in-laws to chip in and bought a Cross Check for her little brother's PhD graduation present. Best graduation present ever.

joygoat, Sunday, 6 July 2008 17:21 (sixteen years ago) link

I JUST ORDERED A SURLY {GAYEST NAME EVER} KARATE MONKEY {/GAYEST NAME EVER}...STOKED ON THAT.

ddb, Wednesday, 9 July 2008 00:06 (sixteen years ago) link

lol

my new bike is on the way ^_^

wilter, Wednesday, 9 July 2008 00:09 (sixteen years ago) link

NEW BIKE BONERS ALL AROUND.

ddb, Wednesday, 9 July 2008 00:10 (sixteen years ago) link

YEPP

wilter, Wednesday, 9 July 2008 00:11 (sixteen years ago) link

Is Recycle a Bicycle my best bet in NYC? Too bad they don't sell out of their L.I.C. workshop. Should I try East Village or DUMBO? And about how much money am I looking at for a general no frills bike?

-- Virginia Plain, Sunday, 6 July 2008 00:42 (3 days ago) Bookmark Link

Never saw this, M. You should try both locations as the selection varies and neither seems to know what the other has.

Ed, Wednesday, 9 July 2008 09:06 (sixteen years ago) link

VP:

1. Call ahead and ask what they have.
2. Expect to spend about $125-200 on a bike from R-A-B but keep in mind it will be completely overhauled with any worn/broken parts already replaced and buying a bike from craigslist for $75 might involve another $50-75 in work costs.

Laurel, Wednesday, 9 July 2008 16:58 (sixteen years ago) link

also ok minor rant: holy geez how is it that people go and buy nice bikes and even a decent lock and then like lock up only the front tire or put the lock between forks, tire and wahtever they're locking to? it blows my mind. i have felt compelled to leave short notes tucked in water-bottle holders of bikes locked at my workplace. they are not dickish notes, i just don't want people to suffer the pain of a stolen bike. i mean, i don't know what else to do, except obv nothing :/

rrrobyn, Wednesday, 9 July 2008 21:10 (sixteen years ago) link

(when i say 'forks' i mean front forks with quick-release agh i almost took the bike myself but quelled the evil)

rrrobyn, Wednesday, 9 July 2008 21:12 (sixteen years ago) link

Haha! I go for the front wheel-and-frame d-lock action - not flawless (they can steal my back wheel easy enough) but hell, the only place I lock it is in a private underground car park. Let's see how long it takes to get nicked.

Mark C, Wednesday, 9 July 2008 21:57 (sixteen years ago) link

i use locking skewers (and headset top cap), and i've had good luck so far. it's super convenient only having to lock the frame and never worrying about the wheels.

getting a flat and realizing i forgot the key is miserable, though... having to search all over for the hole to patch while the wheel is in the frame really blows.

ytth, Thursday, 10 July 2008 06:36 (sixteen years ago) link

My shit ought to be showing up tomorrow afternoon....they were out of crosscheck frames, so I just went for the complete and will part it out over time. might just replace the wheels immediately, though.

best part: $300 below retail!

gbx, Thursday, 10 July 2008 13:02 (sixteen years ago) link

I have the pista happening. I need to put a new brake lever on it tho. The Dura-Ace levers look majorly retarded.

wilter, Sunday, 20 July 2008 23:32 (sixteen years ago) link

one year passes...

Can the many wizened minds of ILTRBMB come up with a new bike for a bike n00b like me?

I'm tired of riding a silly high maintenance off-roader with a heavy frame, fat tyres and about twenty-two more gears than I have any use for. I never cycle anywhere except roads and the steepest incline I face on a day-to-day basis is Waterloo Bridge, so I'm inclined toward a single speed (fuck a fixie tho) with as light a frame as I can afford.

Not looking to spend more than £500 (although could stretch to £600 if the value was there). Initial inquiries have come up with the Trek Solo S and the Trek District (yup, my local bike shop's a specialist Trek dealer).

Thoughts appreciated...

N1ck (Upt0eleven), Monday, 31 August 2009 11:18 (fifteen years ago) link

presumably 2nd or 3rd District (the other two are belt drive)

caek, Monday, 31 August 2009 11:30 (fifteen years ago) link

tbh the one the guy showed me was belt drive, and although I can see the benefits (weight, maintenance etc) it doesn't really hold much of an attraction for me. Certainly not worth the extra expense from my point of view. Pretty bike though.

N1ck (Upt0eleven), Monday, 31 August 2009 11:43 (fifteen years ago) link

see also: Kona Paddy Wagon, Charge Plug and Surly Steamroller (a little high priced). Evans appears to have a sale on right now so might be worth a look.

Mornington Crescent (Ed), Monday, 31 August 2009 12:11 (fifteen years ago) link

The Kona is one I've also looked at online and the brand appeals but my ignorance is such that i can't, in truth, appreciate the tangible advantages of any of the above over any of the others. Am very eager to be enlightened though.

N1ck (Upt0eleven), Monday, 31 August 2009 16:50 (fifteen years ago) link

raleigh one way.

cutty, Monday, 31 August 2009 16:58 (fifteen years ago) link

i'll sell you mine.

cutty, Monday, 31 August 2009 16:59 (fifteen years ago) link

I would buy it, were it not for the fact that I'm buying it through a work cycle scheme whereby it has to be new and I have to go through a participating vendor.

N1ck (Upt0eleven), Monday, 31 August 2009 17:10 (fifteen years ago) link

I was in the exact same boat, test rode a Steamroller that was set up fixed, and loved the hell out of it. Keep in mind that you can ride fixed and not immediately turn into an asshole (a concern of mine). But I think it'd be just as nice single speed. Make sure whatever you get you budget for a few things you'll probably want to add (better pedals, toeclips, lights, etc) and, if you want to work on it yourself, replacement parts for the ones you screw up (the left crank is REVERSE THREADED).

I can see the Steamroller being a bit overpriced, but it was a) the prettiest b) the one I didn't have to special order.

ENERGY FOOD (en i see kay), Monday, 31 August 2009 17:10 (fifteen years ago) link

Sounds like a test ride would be a good idea. Buying a bike on looks and on-paper spec alone is probably a bad idea.

I am verily appreciating ilx helping me to narrow it down from lots to some.

N1ck (Upt0eleven), Monday, 31 August 2009 17:19 (fifteen years ago) link

i was in the exact same boat as you at the beginning of the summer and ended up buying an origin8 uno. not a bad bike at all but not probably the best i could have had. what i figured out tho is that basically every manufacturer has a single-speed road bike offering and they are all pretty good! my only tip from experience is that if you have a vague idea of using the thing for utility as well as fun, make sure it's a road and not a track-style frame as those will probably not have rack mount braze-ons.

the people vs peer gynt (goole), Monday, 31 August 2009 17:27 (fifteen years ago) link

Yes, also the track bikes are twitchier and don't absorb the shock of going over curbs (or kerbs) and other road hazards as well.

ENERGY FOOD (en i see kay), Monday, 31 August 2009 17:33 (fifteen years ago) link

yeah i hear that

the people vs peer gynt (goole), Monday, 31 August 2009 17:35 (fifteen years ago) link

Very few lower priced SS bikes are track geo these days, from what I understand.

But yeah, I switched back to my pista for a few days and even tho I love how twitchy it is, it kills my back before too long. All scrunched up.

crabRCISE (gbx), Monday, 31 August 2009 19:59 (fifteen years ago) link

Of my cycling buddies the favourite mid-priced ss/fg bike seems to be the Pearson Touche - can you get that through your scheme?

Personally, I can totally recommend getting a steel frame. Mine's a track frame but it is so much nicer over bumps than either my alloy or my carbon roadie.

Is the £500-£600 including the cycle to work discount (if that's the scheme in question), or do you actually mean the RRP of the bike could be about £1000 before the scheme savings?

Spesh Langsters are in your price range, assuming it's the former, and are very popular if you do go for alloy.

And finally, man the fuck up and ride fixed, it's so satisfying once you figure it out!

Mark C, Monday, 31 August 2009 22:19 (fifteen years ago) link

But WHY is it so satisfying??? I'm gonna buy a flip-flop hub either way so of course I'll give it a go, but all I can imagine is that Dog Kennel Hill's gonna be a shitload less satisfying if I can't free-wheel it.

And the £500-6 is pre-discount cuz I am a cheapskate and disinclined to have much more that £25/month taken out of my wages. Could afford it but don't really think I'd appreciate the extra money spent.

N1ck (Upt0eleven), Monday, 31 August 2009 22:25 (fifteen years ago) link

climbing is loads easier on a fix than on a SS, fwiw, but yeah, descending is a pain.

srsly tho, unless you suddenly start putting 650s and flat bars on yr track bike, you've got a long way to go before riding fixed automatically makes you a d-bag.

crabRCISE (gbx), Monday, 31 August 2009 22:52 (fifteen years ago) link

amen

And yeah dude srsly I was not planning on riding fixed at all, thought I might do it much later but generally had a lot of reservations, worried about hills and stuff, but five minutes and a few comers on that thing and I just wanted to ride it aaaaaaall the live long day.

ENERGY FOOD (en i see kay), Tuesday, 1 September 2009 00:32 (fifteen years ago) link

fuck riding fixed, yeah i said it.

cutty, Wednesday, 2 September 2009 15:12 (fifteen years ago) link

I can see that... Now that I'm not doing a time-trialesque commute on my fixed bike and actually putting in 3-400 miles a week, riding fixed seems slow and inefficient in comparison.

Cuttles, why selling the 1-Way? Seems like an ideal commute/errand bike?

*⁂((✪⥎✪))⁂* (Steve Shasta), Wednesday, 2 September 2009 22:21 (fifteen years ago) link

May have to hold off on the new bike purchase as there's a fair chance I'll be leaving this job within the next three months and would have to pay for the bike outright if I did.

Committing to a job for a year just for the sake of a shiny new bike would be pretty stupid, right?

N1ck (Upt0eleven), Thursday, 3 September 2009 09:29 (fifteen years ago) link

How about singlespeed conversion for yr current?

ledge, Thursday, 3 September 2009 09:36 (fifteen years ago) link

Or better tyres, unless you plan on going off-road much. Singlespeed conversion's fun though, although not quite as cheap and easy as I was expecting.

j.o.n.a, Thursday, 3 September 2009 10:01 (fifteen years ago) link

Really? What was cost? chain + tensioner + cog = £30-40?

Better tyres whether or not you do the conv though, yup. I guess that adds to the cost too.

ledge, Thursday, 3 September 2009 10:07 (fifteen years ago) link

Yeah, I've been thinking about new tyres for a while anyway. How much would youse estimate if I were to do the whole thing properly?

N1ck (Upt0eleven), Thursday, 3 September 2009 10:14 (fifteen years ago) link


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