Or do you literally mean that to turn, you simply turned the handlebars? Yup, you need to lean into them - indeed you'll barely turn the bars at all except in the slowest and tightest of bends.
― Mark C, Wednesday, 4 June 2008 22:21 (sixteen years ago) link
No, no. I mean I went from the street onto the curb at a place where the curb was lowered to street level (not jumping) at pretty much a 180-degree angle, at which point my bike immediately fell over to the right and I found myself on my hands and knees.
― rev, Wednesday, 4 June 2008 23:16 (sixteen years ago) link
Ah, fuck. The bike I wanted had 50/34 chainrings and a 12-27 cassette - nice and gentle and good for hills. The bike I have ended up buying, I have just discovered, is 53/39 and 11-25. I am fucked as soon as I come across a hill.
― Mark C, Wednesday, 4 June 2008 23:26 (sixteen years ago) link
You could ask the shop to switch out the cassette or chainrings. If you give them the stock one that comes with the bike, hopefully they won't charge (or charge much) for the new cassette and labor. Seems like they owe you.
(xpost) rev, that can happen. I fell on my ass in a similar way just a couple of weeks ago (first time I'd fallen in a long-long time). The pavement was wet and I rode up on a lip between pavement and driveway and the front wheel kicked out. Bloop - one second I was on the bike the next second I was on the ground. Jumped up and got back on the bike and kept riding. Came away with a little bruise on my hip and a scuff mark on the handlebars. No biggie.
― Super Cub, Thursday, 5 June 2008 03:00 (sixteen years ago) link
mark- how much do you care about keeping the group intact? i ask because campy stuff fetches a lot on ebay, so you could always sell the cranks and pick up a set of FSA or SRAM compact cranks for less $$$, and that would at least solve that problem. that'll make a way bigger difference than the cassette (although a cassette swap is so easy, i don't know why they wouldn't do it). switching out the chainrings won't work, since a 50/34 is a compact (and could possibly require a different front derailleur as well). also, campy may make compact cranks now... i've been out of the campy loop for a while.
your bike will get more looks with campy on it than SRAM, that's for sure.
― ytth, Thursday, 5 June 2008 03:40 (sixteen years ago) link
I just scored a cheap Kona jake frame to build a new bike for my GF's birthday.
Anyone got any tips on respraying bike frames as this looks a little beat. Obviouly plugging any threads, guides and holes is a must as is a grease free and slightly sanded down surface, but anyone got any tips for getting a good finish, what type of paints I should be using etc.
― Ed, Thursday, 5 June 2008 09:34 (sixteen years ago) link
I have ended up compromising AGAIN and settling for a Dura-ace groupset with compact chainrings. Less stylin', but Β£100 cheaper and I'm so hacked off with the entire process I don't care any more
― Mark C, Thursday, 5 June 2008 12:19 (sixteen years ago) link
Rev, will you post pictures of yr new bike? I'm not purely asking that to give me an excuse to post pics of mine :)
Mine's black. Not sure how I feel about that.
― Mark C, Thursday, 5 June 2008 15:20 (sixteen years ago) link
http://i103.photobucket.com/albums/m134/johnjusten/rcstcat.gif
― Mark C, Thursday, 5 June 2008 15:22 (sixteen years ago) link
Sorry sorry, I am very bored at work (you may have guessed)
― Mark C, Thursday, 5 June 2008 15:28 (sixteen years ago) link
Bike might arrive tomorrow! (but more likely early next week)
― Mark C, Thursday, 5 June 2008 16:21 (sixteen years ago) link
Next week it is, then.
― Mark C, Friday, 6 June 2008 13:32 (sixteen years ago) link
Bugger, make shure you check it over carefully when it arrives.
― Ed, Friday, 6 June 2008 13:42 (sixteen years ago) link
I will, as carefully as I know how, in any case! Want to give me some pointers, assuming that I am one step up from absolute noob?
― Mark C, Friday, 6 June 2008 14:00 (sixteen years ago) link
clean the grease off the chain and lube it up... shimano chains ship with this horrible grease on them- it gets everywhere, and after a few weeks, it's like tar on your chain. (otherwise, dura-ace is tits, and don't let any campy fanatics tell you it ain't.)
invest in a torque wrench, and check the torque on seat post and stem bolts if you're using carbon parts.
make sure the rim strip is covering all the holes.
make sure the two bolts holding the non-drive side crankarm onto the spindle are tightened evenly (and if you ever take the crankarm off, loosen them by alternating half turns for the first few turns).
ride it a few weeks, and then reindex the rear derailleur, and then give the cables a shot of lube after a couple months once everything has settled in.
sorry if you know this stuff already- some people call themselves noobs and end up having better wrenching chops than i do.
― ytth, Saturday, 7 June 2008 05:07 (sixteen years ago) link
Jordan I could barely follow the above! But thanks, that's priceless info. Do I reindex the rear derailleur myself or do I need to get a non-noob to do it? Also, how does one lube a cable?
Thanks again!
― Mark C, Saturday, 7 June 2008 12:31 (sixteen years ago) link
Bike is HERE. Woohoo! It's pretty, though more carbon-looking than I anticipated (I thought the primary frame colour was black, but it's actually a thick carbon weave effect). Seems weird that I'm only 6 foot and yet it's classed as an XL (58cm) frame, but I think it's a wee bit more compact than my Trek. The tyres (Schwalbe Ultremos) look terrifyingly slick but apparently they do have excellent grip. Very excited about riding home now!
― Mark C, Monday, 9 June 2008 11:05 (sixteen years ago) link
I was thinking more along the lines of a very close inspection of the frame for any damage, especially as it is carbon.
― Ed, Monday, 9 June 2008 11:32 (sixteen years ago) link
Are we talking visual damage, or are there other ways of checking?
It's all set up now - eggbeaters are attached, handlebars sorted, cleats fixed to shoes etc. I may have to adjust the height of the saddle a touch but that can wait till I get it downstairs I think. Am a bit nervous about using a new clipless system in rush-hour London traffic but I'll be ultra-careful.
― Mark C, Monday, 9 June 2008 14:01 (sixteen years ago) link
Just visual damage, scratches, nicks etc. Carbon is much more sensitive than metal to these and your frame should be send back if it has the slightest hint of these.
― Ed, Monday, 9 June 2008 15:16 (sixteen years ago) link
HI DERE
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v222/biondino/focus1.jpg
― Mark C, Monday, 9 June 2008 21:31 (sixteen years ago) link
I know that's not a great pic - I'll take some more soon and post some better angles.
― Mark C, Monday, 9 June 2008 21:32 (sixteen years ago) link
sweeet
― ledge, Monday, 9 June 2008 22:12 (sixteen years ago) link
nice
― Hunt3r, Monday, 9 June 2008 22:54 (sixteen years ago) link
http://img49.imageshack.us/img49/1382/bicicletasf6.jpg
― The Reverend, Tuesday, 10 June 2008 02:35 (sixteen years ago) link
i think i could bite through that lock
― ledge, Tuesday, 10 June 2008 10:05 (sixteen years ago) link
WITH SEXY RESULTS
― Mark C, Tuesday, 10 June 2008 21:07 (sixteen years ago) link
Sorry. I only came here to post another picture of the machine, a better one. I'll stop after this.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v222/biondino/focus100608.jpg
― Mark C, Tuesday, 10 June 2008 21:08 (sixteen years ago) link
Ledge, I know. That one came w/ the bike. It's not gonna stop anyone who really wants the to take it, but at least no one's gonna just walk away with it cause they can. I did get a better lock from the bike shop, but I haven't gotten around to depackaging it.
― rev, Tuesday, 10 June 2008 21:34 (sixteen years ago) link
wow mark- i dig the fat carbon weave... kinda looks like a scott. how's the ride?
― ytth, Thursday, 12 June 2008 05:12 (sixteen years ago) link
rev you have actually scored upon a pretty sweet frame I fink
― El Tomboto, Thursday, 12 June 2008 05:17 (sixteen years ago) link
what are those cranks?
― wilter, Thursday, 12 June 2008 05:18 (sixteen years ago) link
I heard from a dude who knows stuff that nobody does the fork tube joists anymore like they did on those old schwinns
― El Tomboto, Thursday, 12 June 2008 05:18 (sixteen years ago) link
actually you can see it on the bottom bracket joists as well
― El Tomboto, Thursday, 12 June 2008 05:19 (sixteen years ago) link
i have never irl seen anyone use those eggbeater pedals on a roadbike. Is the cleat (or whatev) chunky??
xposts
― wilter, Thursday, 12 June 2008 05:22 (sixteen years ago) link
I use them on my road bike and the cleat is wee.
Mark can you do a photo so we can see the gruppo?
― Ed, Thursday, 12 June 2008 06:34 (sixteen years ago) link
The cleat is wee, almost exactly the same size and similar shape to an SPD cleat. I use mtb shoes as I am more than happy to add 100g if it means I can actually walk in them.
Jordan, I don't have a lot to compare it to, but the ride is pretty cool. It really is a lot lighter than my Trek - 18lb rather than 24lb - and with quite decent quality wheels it moves beautifully. The difference in climbing a hill is just ridiculous. There is a fundamental difference in dampening between the aluminium Trek and the carbon Focus - less high end jarring, perhaps?
When I rode it home from work the other day (so I've only actually done 7 miles on it so far - would have ridden it today but it was raining, and quite glad I chose the Trek as it started hailing (?!) 10 minutes into my ride) the setup wasn't quite right, so I've tweaked the handlebar angle (and might have to again) and the seat angle (it was giving me lower backache) and might adjust the seat position slightly if backache persists. The biggest difference was when I stood up and, as you do, compensated with my upper body for the pedal pressure and almost toppled over, the bike was so light!
There are a couple of odd things that I will ask about when I give it its 100km service - the freewheel noise isn't uniform, it gets higher and louder for half a rev, then quieter and lower for the other half. Any idea why, and whether this is a problem? I am also slightly concerned that the angle of the rear derailleur wheels is a bit off (pointing inwards, rather than parallel to the chain), perhaps it got banged in transit - it seems to work fine but I haven't yet tested the whole gear range so I don't really know.
The gruppo is Ultegra front mech, Dura-ace rear mech, FSA Gossamer chainset, Dura-ace shifters, cassette and chain unknown. I'll try and do some photos soon.
― Mark C, Thursday, 12 June 2008 09:49 (sixteen years ago) link
fork(?) tube...joists(?)
If only I spoke bicyclish.
― The Reverend, Friday, 13 June 2008 01:23 (sixteen years ago) link
Here's a cycling glossary that will help with the terminology. It was put together by the late and great bicycle guru Sheldon Brown.
http://sheldonbrown.com/glossary.html
― Super Cub, Friday, 13 June 2008 06:34 (sixteen years ago) link
Is a "joist" what we call a stay in the states?
― Super Cub, Friday, 13 June 2008 06:37 (sixteen years ago) link
http://science.howstuffworks.com/bicycle1.htm
I say joist because I consider a "joint" to be something where one or both parts are mobile - thus the architectural term (I figure. probably it's just because I'm an idiot)
― El Tomboto, Friday, 13 June 2008 06:43 (sixteen years ago) link
howstuffworks is a fucking awesome site regardless
― El Tomboto, Friday, 13 June 2008 06:44 (sixteen years ago) link
Assembling the bits for my girlfriend's new bike has been fun, also it gives me a chance to acquire some new tools. I now have vernier calipers, I have always wanted an excuse to get vernier calipers.
― Ed, Friday, 13 June 2008 12:42 (sixteen years ago) link
hello bicycle peoples, i wish to obtain bicycle
― elmo argonaut, Tuesday, 17 June 2008 13:33 (sixteen years ago) link
so for my first real bike, which i would like to evetually use for a 9 mile work commute & transport around the city, do you think i should invest the $$ in a new machine? only reluctant because new bikes be spendy
― elmo argonaut, Tuesday, 17 June 2008 13:38 (sixteen years ago) link
Where are you elmo?
― Ed, Tuesday, 17 June 2008 15:10 (sixteen years ago) link
city of providence, state of rhode island and providence plantations, united states of america
― elmo argonaut, Tuesday, 17 June 2008 15:13 (sixteen years ago) link
Second hand would be fine if you have got someone who can look it over for you. If there is a second hand bike coop that rehabilitates old bikes then this is probaly the best option (see the excellent Recycle-a-bike in NYC that laurel works for).
Try starting here:
http://www.recycleabike.org/
― Ed, Tuesday, 17 June 2008 15:27 (sixteen years ago) link
"works for" is extremely generous -- more like "lets use their tools on the pretext that she's volunteering her time". But yeah, they're awesome!
― Laurel, Tuesday, 17 June 2008 16:14 (sixteen years ago) link
so for my first real bike, which i would like to eventually use for a 9 mile work commute & transport around the city, do you think i should invest the $$ in a new machine?
On the one hand, 9 miles is a good bit of riding on a daily basis, and you'd want a capable and reliable bike for that. On the other hand, you haven't been riding enough to know what you really want or know how much you would put a nice bike to good use. So I would consider buying used or getting a cheaper new bike with the idea that you can invest in a nicer bike down the road (so to speak). You could also just get a nice bike now.
Do you have any notion of what kind of bike you want? Start with materials: aluminum or steel? Do you want something that can handle trails and light off-road or a true road bike? Do you want a more upright riding position or something more aero? What's your general budget?
Give us more to work with.
― Super Cub, Tuesday, 17 June 2008 23:38 (sixteen years ago) link
My bike has died and I need a new one. Not much money but I'm thinking of going for a s/h road bike for the first time if I can find a good deal. If anyone has any tips on what to go for and / or avoid I'd love to hear them.
― Shat Parp (dog latin), Monday, 18 September 2017 08:43 (seven years ago) link
What kind of riding do you think you'll do? Recreation/fitness? Utility/local transport? Pub runs? Most drop bar, road bikes are best for recreation/fitness in my opinion, or long-range transport. Flat bar road bikes that can take fenders and a rack are better for utility/local imo. Nowadays there's really a style for every purpose, and enough volume to have s/h stuff be pretty fairly priced, at least in this part of USA.
― felix! phelix! ghelix! (Hunt3r), Monday, 18 September 2017 13:53 (seven years ago) link
Just for getting around the city (Bristol, UK) really. It'll be my main mode of transport, getting too and from work and other parts. Might do a few longer rides for fun.
― Shat Parp (dog latin), Monday, 18 September 2017 14:12 (seven years ago) link
you'll want plenty o' gears in bristol. or at least don't get a single speed.
if you're new to riding road bikes in traffic i'd definitely go for a flat handlebar bike.
― π ππ’π¨ (caek), Monday, 18 September 2017 16:22 (seven years ago) link
Just flipping through ebay, im posting these as "types" not actual bikes- for example the first one has spoke issues- you don't want that one, but it's of the sort that might work for the role:
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Specialized-TriCross-Sport-bicycle-56cm/332381525584?hash=item4d637b9650%3Ag%3AjFEAAOSwFPRZvQTlhttp://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/2017-GENESIS-Equilibrium-4-months-old-Bought-for-950/122710787329?hash=item1c92220501%3Ag%3AtToAAOSw~gxZq~rghttp://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Boardman-2016-CX-Comp-Mens-Cyclocross-Bike-Bicycle-Alloy-Frame-18-Speed-700C/182726175598?hash=item2a8b542b6e%3Ag%3AOZUAAOSwr2ZZmqWs
basically, these are drop bars with rear rack and mudguard mounts. 9/10 speed shifting is good and current, 7 and 8 speed sets might be harder to get quality replacement parts. a double chainring crankset will usually be enough. i think caek's advice is solid- flat bars in traffic are nice for visibility and maneuvering. drops are nice for those longer rides where you want multiple hand positions to stay comfortable.
if your bike storage is on street locking, keep it cheap (tho i obv have no idea what bike theft is like in your hood, maybe it's pretty safe).
― felix! phelix! ghelix! (Hunt3r), Monday, 18 September 2017 16:40 (seven years ago) link
i had a drop road when i lived in bristol and it was great for extreme hill climbs on deserted streets back from the pub and doing the cycle path to bath and back, but i hated riding it on e.g. gloucester road with the potholes and buses. i'm a fairly comfortable cyclist in traffic, but that was a bridge too far for me.
― π ππ’π¨ (caek), Monday, 18 September 2017 16:51 (seven years ago) link
i just bought a tern gsd electric cargo bike.
any tips? (especially looking for advice about how to deal with all the people who are going to want to do it with me now that i've got a bright yellow cargo bike with a child seat.)
― π ππ’π¨ (caek), Monday, 5 April 2021 21:49 (three years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tx4ctRpjEjM
― π ππ’π¨ (caek), Monday, 5 April 2021 21:53 (three years ago) link
Read something once that said something like "I assume every door I ride past is going to be flung open by an opera singer about to belt out an aria" - the one time I got doored was turning a corner, those can be tricky.
Have fun!
― lukas, Monday, 5 April 2021 21:59 (three years ago) link
i've done tons of city riding, but never with a bike that weighed 75lb (with a 30lb child on the back), and also never in los angeles, where the people/roads are bad.
luckily most of our daycare commute is going to be along a bike path by the river. just one insanely dicey intersection to start the day haha good times.
― π ππ’π¨ (caek), Monday, 5 April 2021 22:26 (three years ago) link
Ah okay. Yeah no special wisdom to share, I am just constantly paranoid and always expanding my library of threat models. I actually sort of enjoy that part of riding.
― lukas, Monday, 5 April 2021 22:32 (three years ago) link
not dead yet. having a great time. we now go passed a park every day and my son has hidden a stick that we have to check on each afternoon. without that it would probably be a little faster than the car.
― π ππ’π¨ (caek), Friday, 16 April 2021 19:01 (three years ago) link
I bought a half decent bike! A late 90s Marin Pine Mountain rigid. Almost all my riding will be on streets & in alleys, with maybe a few city trails here & there, seems like a good all-rounder. Itβs a damn sight lighter than anything Iβve owned before & is kind of a joy to ride. Itβll replace the shitty shitty Schwinn I bought last year & have never enjoyed riding (& so, of course, I rarely rode it), which in turn replaced the $50 Peugeot I rode for years but which was stripped to the frame when my daughter borrowed it & left it at the train station inadequately secured. I wasnβt looking for a bike but it was right there in an antiques/junk shop & it called to me. $300, which seems ok (esp as thereβs a bike shortage cuz everyone & their new Covid dog wants one)
― "The Pus/Worm" by The Smiths (hardcore dilettante), Saturday, 5 June 2021 21:30 (three years ago) link
just put the 2000th mile on the GSD (used for an 8 mile round trip 3-4 times a week). been carrying two kids on it for maybe a year.
around about 6 months ago we reached the point here where people with kids on e-bikes stopped waving and nodding to each other because there are so many of them.
― π ππ’π¨ (caek), Wednesday, 31 August 2022 16:41 (two years ago) link