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The Hub carries Jamis, and I've heard a lot of good things about the Jamis Coda line. You should check into that.

I think you should tell the shop guy that you're looking for a hybrid or cyclocross bike. Explain that you want something closer to "road geometry" and you don't want a suspension fork. By saying those two things, I think you'll get more respect and can skip all the granny bikes.

The Bianchi Volpe and Surly Cross Check are both awesome, but totally out of your price range.

Super Cub, Wednesday, 18 June 2008 16:53 (sixteen years ago) link

yeah! you guys are great

elmo argonaut, Wednesday, 18 June 2008 17:03 (sixteen years ago) link

Thinking about buying this thing (will prob be commuting more if/when change job)

http://i263.photobucket.com/albums/ii129/Eunimave/IMG_0089.jpg

It looks pretty fucking sweet imo

It's 56cm, my road bike is 58.

wilter, Monday, 23 June 2008 00:10 (sixteen years ago) link

My first decent road bike was a 56cm alu Bianchi thing (rip ;_;) which I just scraped in with wrt height.

wilter, Monday, 23 June 2008 00:12 (sixteen years ago) link

bought a bike!! -- or committed to buy, picking it up tomorrow

jamis coda sport

shop owner initially directed me towards the jamis coda and was selling it really hard but of course he didn't have my size / could get more -- so i went for the coda sport. shop owner is including a rack & a helmet to help offset the price diff.

excited

elmo argonaut, Friday, 27 June 2008 01:48 (sixteen years ago) link

That's a great bike, and Jamis is a nifty company. Congrats!

Super Cub, Friday, 27 June 2008 06:48 (sixteen years ago) link

Lovely! Is it this one:

http://capitolhillbikes.com/images/library/large/jamis_coda_sport_08_m.jpg

I love the blue.

Mark C, Friday, 27 June 2008 11:33 (sixteen years ago) link

that is it!

elmo argonaut, Friday, 27 June 2008 13:27 (sixteen years ago) link

I might reverse my stem tonight for that important 1/2 inch reduction in reach. I have basically decided my bike is a wee bit too big for me but I don't really want to have to buy a new stem.

Mark C, Friday, 27 June 2008 13:56 (sixteen years ago) link

So I reversed my stem, apparently successfully, but I am now convinced there is some play in my headset that wasn't there before. Possible? Everything seems appropriately tightened, and my bike didn't fall apart when I rode in today, but I'm panicking about every little noise and vibration right now. I guess it'll have its 100-mile service in the next week or two so they can tell me if anything's wrong.

Mark C, Monday, 30 June 2008 10:53 (sixteen years ago) link

do you get any knocking or play if you hold the front brake tight and gently rock the bike back and forth?

ledge, Monday, 30 June 2008 10:57 (sixteen years ago) link

A tiny bit, if I remember rightly. Should a headset be absolutely rigid (while still turning, obviously)? I also haven't figured out how much of the noise/rattling is the cable hitting the tubes - carbon is more echoey than aluminium, it seems.

Mark C, Monday, 30 June 2008 11:52 (sixteen years ago) link

it should be rigid, yeah. but the above test is not foolproof, it's possible the play is in the brakes not the headset. you did tighten the top cap and then the stem bolts, right?

ledge, Monday, 30 June 2008 12:17 (sixteen years ago) link

I have only just realised what you mean by reversing the stem, for some reason I thought seat post. I am unsure as to whether this is that great an idea you will have changed the loading on the fork, steerer, headset and head tube quite dramatically. I'd worry more on a carbon frame as well as they are optimised for certain loadings

Ed, Monday, 30 June 2008 13:10 (sixteen years ago) link

It seems to be a standard thing to do, Ed - certainly loads of people seem to recommend it as a simple way of changing your riding position and, indeed, my stem actually has "+/- 6 degrees" written on it - I am pretty sure it's part of the selling point.

I might undo the various bolts and re-tighten them, see if it makes a difference.

Mark C, Monday, 30 June 2008 14:38 (sixteen years ago) link

Ah, I understand further now, I though you had flipped it as in running it backwards over the cross bar.

Ed, Monday, 30 June 2008 14:41 (sixteen years ago) link

YOu should tighten the bolt on the headset cap first I think, before doing the ones on the steerer clamp.

Ed, Monday, 30 June 2008 14:42 (sixteen years ago) link

Wow, backwards would be a radically different riding position!

Yeah, I might give it another go. I have also convinced myself that the stem is now a 1/10th of a degree off centre, so that needs sorting too! I definitely prefer the position now - more sportive than race :)

Mark C, Monday, 30 June 2008 14:48 (sixteen years ago) link

if you have an expander in yr steerer (for carbon steerer) instead of a starnut, its a fussy adjustment. you need to load topcap enough to eliminate play, but the bars should turn freely and throughout range. then gradually tighten the stem bolts, alternating bolts. if you have a carbon steerer, its also fussy because the steerer may deform a bit. for this reason, you sometimes see guys with a spacer on top of the stem. this allows the stem to "grip" lower on the steerer, less deformation. stems in the past 5 years are better designed and its not such an issue. on my bike tho, i HAVE to have this arrangement, my steerer is just too soft.

one of my mates insisted on removing the topcap/expander wedge from his steerer after tightening stem to save 20g.

Hunt3r, Monday, 30 June 2008 15:39 (sixteen years ago) link

I have I think 5 spacers, then stem, the 2 spaces, then topcap. I hope I haven't deformed my steerer! I have to admit I have no idea what a starnut or an expander is.

Mark C, Monday, 30 June 2008 15:51 (sixteen years ago) link

Take off the topcap and look down the steerer and all will be revealed.

Ed, Monday, 30 June 2008 15:53 (sixteen years ago) link

oh, you wont permanently deform it. it just flexes a bit. dont worry.

if you take off the cap and a plug comes with it, its an expander. if its just a bolt, then as ed says you can look into the steerer and see a "star-fangled nut" wedged up in there. 'course, after you tighten the stem, the cap and the wedge/expander serve no real function.

Hunt3r, Monday, 30 June 2008 15:58 (sixteen years ago) link

What shall I do with the large 70s/80s Holdsworth road bike I currently have in my shed, gathering dust and rust? It's a 14-speed (2x7) steel racer, very heavy, and completely unused at present. Is it even worth wondering whether it can be converted to single-speed? Perhaps it's just fit for using as a machine which might help me understand how bikes are put together - although I doubt it has a great deal in common with my lithe carbon beauty. I'll try and take some photos, maybe tonight if I remember.

Mark C, Tuesday, 1 July 2008 16:57 (sixteen years ago) link

If it's got horizontal drop-outs it should be relatively easy to convert to a single speed. I did this last fall with a 80's Trek road bike, and I've since inherited a box of frames and parts from a friend so I'm probably going to put together a couple of Frankenbikes.

I learned a whole lot by taking apart and rebuilding the Trek so it was totally worth it if you like to do that kind of thing. I think that having an untouched, fully-functioning main bike is a key element for this kind of thing - no matter how messed up your project bike is you can still actually ride your main bike.

joygoat, Tuesday, 1 July 2008 17:16 (sixteen years ago) link

Thanks joygoat. I took some pictures of the bike today - please have a look at the first 13 pics of this set on my Flickr!

I am thinking about perhaps trying to restore it to either close to its original spec, or to renovate the frame and usable parts and give it a more modern feel. At the moment I have bugger all idea, in all honesty, but as a medium-long term project it could be quite fun.

(p.s. Holdsworth was founded at my local bike shop, even though this bike came from elsewhere, so there's a bit of sentiment attached too)

Mark C, Tuesday, 1 July 2008 23:01 (sixteen years ago) link

<3 flat crown fork
the whole thing is cool

Hunt3r, Tuesday, 1 July 2008 23:56 (sixteen years ago) link

Decided against that hillbrick thing and opted for a too expensive bianchi pista frame :/

wilter, Wednesday, 2 July 2008 00:01 (sixteen years ago) link

Are you in the US? If yes, have you checked out bikesdirect.com? The Hour and Kilo TT are both very popular and cheap.

Super Cub, Wednesday, 2 July 2008 00:58 (sixteen years ago) link

shit that is cheap. I'm not in US tho, everything is super expensive in Australia :(

And by the time I added shipping it's probably not worth it.

wilter, Wednesday, 2 July 2008 01:04 (sixteen years ago) link

Like I did look around quite a bit for frames and parts, both in aus and overseas, but I decided to just bite the bullet and do it.

wilter, Wednesday, 2 July 2008 01:09 (sixteen years ago) link

re: the purpose of a headset top cap- even when the stem is tightened, you still need something to preload the bearings in the headset. tightening the stem on the steerer doesn't exert any downward pressure on the headset by itself. but don't over tighten the top cap bolt- otherwise, your bike will steer stiffly.

mark c- are you still having the rattling/looseness problem? i'm almost 100% sure that when you flipped the stem, you didn't force the steerer tube all the way back up before putting everything back together, and now you've got some play in the headset. if you haven't already solved the problem, take the top cap off, loosen the stem, and put your bike on the ground so the fork (and steerer) are snugged up as far as they can go. then put the top cap back on, tighten it, and see if you still have the problem. also- keep in mind that the steerer should NOT be flush with the top of the stem- it should sit about 2mm down.

anyway, sorry to be long-winded. hope this helps.

ytth, Wednesday, 2 July 2008 03:26 (sixteen years ago) link

Thanks Jordan - I got back on the bike, the play seemed worse if anything, so I got out my tool, loosened the stem, tightened the topcap, made sure everything was aligned okay and woot! It worked!

Walter, have you actually bought the Bianchi? They're very pretty, I doubt you'll regret it.

Mark C, Wednesday, 2 July 2008 09:56 (sixteen years ago) link

even when the stem is tightened, you still need something to preload the bearings

think about this.

Hunt3r, Wednesday, 2 July 2008 14:47 (sixteen years ago) link

sorry to sound smug there

pretty damn sure once you tighten the stem, the steerer is loaded for good. those steerer clamps are pretty tight.

Hunt3r, Wednesday, 2 July 2008 14:58 (sixteen years ago) link

actually i think im here stupidly writing about something you didnt say ytth- gah. sorry again and back to work

Hunt3r, Wednesday, 2 July 2008 15:00 (sixteen years ago) link

xps Mark, yes I actually bought it. I'm going to put an oldish dura ace lever on it, which will make it somewhat ugly.

wilter, Friday, 4 July 2008 05:11 (sixteen years ago) link

will post pics eventually

wilter, Friday, 4 July 2008 05:11 (sixteen years ago) link

Is Recycle a Bicycle my best bet in NYC? Too bad they don't sell out of their L.I.C. workshop. Should I try East Village or DUMBO? And about how much money am I looking at for a general no frills bike?

Virginia Plain, Saturday, 5 July 2008 23:42 (sixteen years ago) link

i am buying....a bike!

Bro works at a shop is hooking me up. Thinking about pulling the trigger on a Traveler's Check since he can get me the frame at sub-$800. A Cross-Check is more likely, however.

Gonna dingle-speed it!

gbx, Saturday, 5 July 2008 23:47 (sixteen years ago) link

Is the S+S really worth it. Given that most airlines are charging for luggage now, the advantage of getting it down to luggage size is much less. Save your bucks and get a nice bag when you fly it.

Cross check is awesome though.

Ed, Sunday, 6 July 2008 12:38 (sixteen years ago) link

Me and the wife got the parents and in-laws to chip in and bought a Cross Check for her little brother's PhD graduation present. Best graduation present ever.

joygoat, Sunday, 6 July 2008 17:21 (sixteen years ago) link

I JUST ORDERED A SURLY {GAYEST NAME EVER} KARATE MONKEY {/GAYEST NAME EVER}...STOKED ON THAT.

ddb, Wednesday, 9 July 2008 00:06 (sixteen years ago) link

lol

my new bike is on the way ^_^

wilter, Wednesday, 9 July 2008 00:09 (sixteen years ago) link

NEW BIKE BONERS ALL AROUND.

ddb, Wednesday, 9 July 2008 00:10 (sixteen years ago) link

YEPP

wilter, Wednesday, 9 July 2008 00:11 (sixteen years ago) link

Is Recycle a Bicycle my best bet in NYC? Too bad they don't sell out of their L.I.C. workshop. Should I try East Village or DUMBO? And about how much money am I looking at for a general no frills bike?

-- Virginia Plain, Sunday, 6 July 2008 00:42 (3 days ago) Bookmark Link

Never saw this, M. You should try both locations as the selection varies and neither seems to know what the other has.

Ed, Wednesday, 9 July 2008 09:06 (sixteen years ago) link

VP:

1. Call ahead and ask what they have.
2. Expect to spend about $125-200 on a bike from R-A-B but keep in mind it will be completely overhauled with any worn/broken parts already replaced and buying a bike from craigslist for $75 might involve another $50-75 in work costs.

Laurel, Wednesday, 9 July 2008 16:58 (sixteen years ago) link

also ok minor rant: holy geez how is it that people go and buy nice bikes and even a decent lock and then like lock up only the front tire or put the lock between forks, tire and wahtever they're locking to? it blows my mind. i have felt compelled to leave short notes tucked in water-bottle holders of bikes locked at my workplace. they are not dickish notes, i just don't want people to suffer the pain of a stolen bike. i mean, i don't know what else to do, except obv nothing :/

rrrobyn, Wednesday, 9 July 2008 21:10 (sixteen years ago) link

(when i say 'forks' i mean front forks with quick-release agh i almost took the bike myself but quelled the evil)

rrrobyn, Wednesday, 9 July 2008 21:12 (sixteen years ago) link

Haha! I go for the front wheel-and-frame d-lock action - not flawless (they can steal my back wheel easy enough) but hell, the only place I lock it is in a private underground car park. Let's see how long it takes to get nicked.

Mark C, Wednesday, 9 July 2008 21:57 (sixteen years ago) link


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