A Void a common symbol (or glyph)

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I think you know what I'm talking about.

Sam (chirombo), Thursday, 24 October 2002 12:32 (twenty-three years ago)

Full, grammatical thoughts only, guys.

My stomach is howling for lunch. It's half past two and this is only a start to my thumb-twiddling. (Till six).

Sam (chirombo), Thursday, 24 October 2002 12:35 (twenty-three years ago)

Are you talking about correct pair kerning?

Graham (graham), Thursday, 24 October 2002 12:38 (twenty-three years ago)

Mandatory snipping of Graham's post! Sorry Graham!

Tom (Groke), Thursday, 24 October 2002 12:53 (twenty-three years ago)

Alas Sam this looks like not catching on :(

Tom (Groke), Thursday, 24 October 2002 13:00 (twenty-three years ago)

it's too hard. my login to yahoo will ruin any good work. i'll think on.

Alan (Alan), Thursday, 24 October 2002 13:05 (twenty-three years ago)

I don't think I fully dig OuLiPo - it looks to moi as though it's about a kind of cryptic crossword thrill... no doubt i am missing out. (Although I like Q's Zazi book, and Calvino's youthful, funny stuff)... I think Don B's stuff is sort of Oulipoian but I dont find it as irritating.)

(I think Sam's point is writing a post without a common typographic symbol, such as this, Graham a la 'A Void')

Jerry the Nipper (Jerrynipper), Thursday, 24 October 2002 13:09 (twenty-three years ago)

*shrug*

jel -- (jel), Thursday, 24 October 2002 13:12 (twenty-three years ago)

why do you think that such linguistic acrobatics would catch on in ILX? This board has hit rock bottom. :-)

Alan (Alan), Thursday, 24 October 2002 13:13 (twenty-three years ago)

Arrgh! LikE! :( That will teach me to be charitable :(

Jerry the Nipper (Jerrynipper), Thursday, 24 October 2002 13:14 (twenty-three years ago)

O say do you by the dawn's light what so proudly by the twilight's last

Momus (Momus), Thursday, 24 October 2002 13:17 (twenty-three years ago)

Methinks the concept needs explaining. What is a glyph? Google doesn't help, I assume it's some kind of symbol (hyroglphs). Oh maybe it's a picture thread of just talking in pictures?

jel -- (jel), Thursday, 24 October 2002 13:18 (twenty-three years ago)

O shit! A solitary symbol got through.

Momus (Momus), Thursday, 24 October 2002 13:18 (twenty-three years ago)

Mary had a lamb its as as snow
And that Mary that lamb was to go

Momus (Momus), Thursday, 24 October 2002 13:19 (twenty-three years ago)

jack horner in the corner

jel -- (jel), Thursday, 24 October 2002 13:21 (twenty-three years ago)

God's turban. You all suck at this.

Sam (chirombo), Thursday, 24 October 2002 13:46 (twenty-three years ago)

No, that should go 'Jack in the'

But that's also not it. It's about making fairly grammatical stuff which avoids a common symbol which is actually world's most known, but arbitrarily unusable. Difficult to do!

Momus (Momus), Thursday, 24 October 2002 13:49 (twenty-three years ago)

Fuck!

Momus (Momus), Thursday, 24 October 2002 13:50 (twenty-three years ago)

You want to put a small thorn on an important button, to stop you doing that.

Sam (chirombo), Thursday, 24 October 2002 14:07 (twenty-three years ago)

It's not that hard, actually. You can talk for a fairly long amount and not put anything on that particular button.

Colin Meeder (Mert), Thursday, 24 October 2002 14:12 (twenty-three years ago)

Without doubt, but your focus on avoiding that button only adds to your difficulty in thinking of anything to say.

nabisco (nabisco), Thursday, 24 October 2002 14:21 (twenty-three years ago)

Ambition lays kings and politicians low - churls such as us should try humility, and maintain short postings.

Tom (Groke), Thursday, 24 October 2002 14:22 (twenty-three years ago)

I DON'T GET IT!

Sarah (starry), Thursday, 24 October 2002 14:24 (twenty-three years ago)

ON MISSY'S "WORK IT" SONG I THINK MANY WORDS GO BACKWARDS WHAT IS MISSY SAYING???

Tom (Groke), Thursday, 24 October 2002 14:25 (twenty-three years ago)

I know, I know: talk about VIC* MAGAZIN*. Only all Void-ily.

Sarah: Alan = "Alan Truwartha" = what sign is Alan avoiding?

nabisco (nabisco), Thursday, 24 October 2002 14:25 (twenty-three years ago)

Lady if you hafta ask...

Tom (Groke), Thursday, 24 October 2002 14:26 (twenty-three years ago)

Nabisco stars in words != playing fair!

Tom (Groke), Thursday, 24 October 2002 14:28 (twenty-three years ago)

That's right. If you do this stuff, you must do it with no slop. A task such as this is not for wimps.

Colin Meeder (Mert), Thursday, 24 October 2002 14:30 (twenty-three years ago)

You shouldn't worry too much about OuLiPo's 'scaffolding' (RQ's word, I think): if a book's writing isn't good, that's a fail. It should work as a work.

Tim (Tim), Thursday, 24 October 2002 14:31 (twenty-three years ago)

No, you punks, it was only a bid for discussion. I want to find out how a raging discussion of said glossy would sound sans *s.

nabisco (nabisco), Thursday, 24 October 2002 14:31 (twenty-three years ago)

So yr posting things without the symbol 'e'? YAR!! Might I pass on this THORT: obtain a living?

Sarah (starry), Thursday, 24 October 2002 14:32 (twenty-three years ago)

To discuss that rag wouldn't tax too much. You'd talk about "colour", though, which is a word that says too much (or nothing at all).

Colin Meeder (Mert), Thursday, 24 October 2002 14:34 (twenty-three years ago)

(In fact, possibly a particular ILX individual could do a full translation of that Vic topic.)

nabisco (nabisco), Thursday, 24 October 2002 14:34 (twenty-three years ago)

what starry said!

andy

koogs, Thursday, 24 October 2002 14:36 (twenty-three years ago)

You punk-ass girl-dogs can go howl in a ditch.

nabisco (nabisco), Thursday, 24 October 2002 14:38 (twenty-three years ago)

Nabisco is right. Writing this way is fun and you must think hard.

Colin Meeder (Mert), Thursday, 24 October 2002 14:40 (twenty-three years ago)

...although I do not favour Nabisco's insult. That was, I think, too harsh.

Colin Meeder (Mert), Thursday, 24 October 2002 14:43 (twenty-three years ago)

Starry is an adult and can shrug off slurs without harm. And Momus and JTN - back to this discussion with you both! A solo slip should not dismay you so much!

Tom (Groke), Thursday, 24 October 2002 14:49 (twenty-three years ago)

I don't viddy; what is import of this colour that is to sit unsaid? O no, I look again and it is obvious; Colin is right. And Nabsico is right too; it is thinking of what to say that hurts, not so much how to say it. Sadly, nor Colin nor Nip nor I sport apt naming for this, hm?

Ellie (Ellie), Thursday, 24 October 2002 14:50 (twenty-three years ago)

May all of us call you "Plancho" for this discussion's duration?

Tom (Groke), Thursday, 24 October 2002 14:54 (twenty-three years ago)

It's this thing.

felicity (felicity), Thursday, 24 October 2002 14:55 (twenty-three years ago)

Linguistic hobbling: akin to a lit-olympics for kids with a disability?

Jerry the Nipper (Jerrynipper), Thursday, 24 October 2002 15:04 (twenty-three years ago)

Oh if you must, although it sounds so similar to a football playing man. I had not priorly thought of my own 'I' in this light!

(Circumlocutions growing clumsy now).

Ellie (Ellie), Thursday, 24 October 2002 15:08 (twenty-three years ago)

eeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee

Now let's talk about pair kerning.

And ligatures, ooh ligatures!

Graham (graham), Thursday, 24 October 2002 15:09 (twenty-three years ago)

It's this thing.

(Right, right, and following that, the Sapphic actions.)

nabisco (nabisco), Thursday, 24 October 2002 15:13 (twenty-three years ago)

Graham, what do you think of VOLT?

Jerry the Nipper (Jerrynipper), Thursday, 24 October 2002 15:15 (twenty-three years ago)

Nabisco owns this, uh, string!

Tom (Groke), Thursday, 24 October 2002 15:16 (twenty-three years ago)

This obviously is not the kind of discussion I would want to regularly maintain in that the typing lack is causing much in the way of frustration.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 24 October 2002 15:17 (twenty-three years ago)

No, Nabisco, bad glyph must not sound. "Following that, Sapphic actions occur amongst all."

Colin Meeder (Mert), Thursday, 24 October 2002 15:17 (twenty-three years ago)

Oh, nothing.

Graham (graham), Thursday, 24 October 2002 15:18 (twenty-three years ago)

Graham I would be happy to discuss those topics, only they appear to fall under the topic of T to la Y to la P to la taboo (not to blurt out what our sun must do at day's conclusion, which too looks asks prohibition).

nabisco (nabisco), Thursday, 24 October 2002 15:18 (twenty-three years ago)

Pain is a symptom for folks who cannot hang with limitations. I find it an inspiration!

Colin Meeder (Mert), Thursday, 24 October 2002 15:19 (twenty-three years ago)

Nabisco, recall if you will that final glyphs in many words of yours fail to comply with said restrictions!

Colin Meeder (Mert), Thursday, 24 October 2002 15:21 (twenty-three years ago)

Shit, I own nothing, I drop a most obvious clunker in the lady-homo gag and I find a "looks" in that last that should displant.

Colin I do not follow.

nabisco (nabisco), Thursday, 24 October 2002 15:23 (twenty-three years ago)

Oh shit, I follow, I'm just not particularly good at this.

nabisco (nabisco), Thursday, 24 October 2002 15:24 (twenty-three years ago)

I find it intriguing to think of how that v. bad mang Dan P will maintain smut standards with a loss of a fifth-plus of his dirty vocabulary.

Colin cast not an initial rock - your own post is not without sin!

Tom (Groke), Thursday, 24 October 2002 15:26 (twenty-three years ago)

I am also, additionally, lost: it allows us Y, no? Including its sounding akin to a Spanish conjunction?

nabisco (nabisco), Thursday, 24 October 2002 15:29 (twenty-three years ago)

Alas, truth! I ought to say "conditions", as that word is right and fair.

Dang, a Mang, will say many words which insult and put folks' loins into painful conditions; words which will also not contain glyphs I do not print in this post. I look forward to this with anticipation.

Colin Meeder (Mert), Thursday, 24 October 2002 15:35 (twenty-three years ago)

Is typing of not-full words, such as "v.", fair? I think not.

Colin Meeder (Mert), Thursday, 24 October 2002 15:39 (twenty-three years ago)

Although I do not flinch in giving Nabisco props for his contributions, I must say this truth: that Tom Wing and Colin own this string! Such fluid articulation, such dainty words! (such turning into Boz in my turn; damn my night scannings of the Story of Two Towns which, to say frankly, I find not to my liking).

And Colin, I think curtailing words is crucial to ILx writing , and thus fair in this case.

Ellie (Ellie), Thursday, 24 October 2002 15:49 (twenty-three years ago)

Ms. P, I thank you. I was with you in spirit, rooting for you not to fail, up until your final word. Your final glyph, in fact.

Colin Meeder (Mert), Thursday, 24 October 2002 15:56 (twenty-three years ago)

post

jel -- (jel), Thursday, 24 October 2002 16:03 (twenty-three years ago)

Group has chimp status, ipso facto, can I swallow group?

Momus (Momus), Thursday, 24 October 2002 16:05 (twenty-three years ago)

thread

jel -- (jel), Thursday, 24 October 2002 16:05 (twenty-three years ago)

This group is no banana, Momus.

Good night all, I go now. I look forward to continuing this posting tomorrow -- do not disappoint your pal Colin, folks!

Colin Meeder (Mert), Thursday, 24 October 2002 16:10 (twenty-three years ago)

Void,
a void,
a common symbol, (or glyph)
ray,
a drop of gold-like sun

Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Thursday, 24 October 2002 16:18 (twenty-three years ago)

Now I know.

Avoid without a gap would work.

A void is a void not avoid.

jel -- (jel), Thursday, 24 October 2002 16:27 (twenty-three years ago)

avoid da noid

Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Thursday, 24 October 2002 16:38 (twenty-three years ago)

for all da cool kids, ha!

jel -- (jel), Thursday, 24 October 2002 16:49 (twenty-three years ago)

Domino's Pizza! RUN AWAY!

How can I talk all kinds of dirt and filth this way? I must work from a foundation; randomly spouting "CUNT-WHACKING KNOBGOBLINS!" cannot satisfy my adoring fans. This topic ist mir tot.

Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Thursday, 24 October 2002 16:51 (twenty-three years ago)

I don't ge tit either!

Dan I., Thursday, 24 October 2002 16:55 (twenty-three years ago)

whoa, your words can only add to my abrogations of said noidal pizzaria unit!

Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Thursday, 24 October 2002 17:06 (twenty-three years ago)

Without a doubt this small striving has a frisson of masochism.

(Isn't a book in bookshops which winds straight through from alpha to http://www.mathacademy.com/pr/prime/articles/greek/gr21.gif without using this symbol at all? This guy did a follow-up I think; not writing "s" or summat?)

Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Thursday, 24 October 2002 17:11 (twenty-three years ago)

Thursday, lunch: wading through this swamp of adoring fan mail and matrimonial proposals which surrounds your narrator always (Sarah from Madison, Wisconsin, tragically aims a postcard at NITSUH ABABA, forcing dismissal!), I thought long and hard, racking last iotas of brain to construct my communication unto you. What I must say to you, my companions -- my asupicious compatriots Momus, Tom Iwing, Colin You-dar, L y Planshay (who has no nominal glyphs "IRL!") -- is difficult, not simply for this constraint-vocabulary I must cling to (as if for my own continuing cardiac palpitations!) but for its primary thrust of narration. What I must say unto you, amigos, within this string of posts and within no contiguous sting, is that ILX -- that I abhor nothing!

nabisco (nabisco), Thursday, 24 October 2002 17:24 (twenty-three years ago)

(Forty goats lift a hoof, confirming that Nabisco abhors nothing.)

Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Thursday, 24 October 2002 17:27 (twenty-three years ago)

Did not an author painstakingly construct a full story, in fact a book, satisfying this condition? (although in Gallic form)

Ray M (rdmanston), Thursday, 24 October 2002 17:29 (twenty-three years ago)

(FYI, "CUNT-WHACKING KNOBGOBLINS!" is my slogan from this instant onwards.)

Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Thursday, 24 October 2002 17:31 (twenty-three years ago)

Ah, Mr Hand had said it first. Bollocks.

Ray M (rdmanston), Thursday, 24 October 2002 17:33 (twenty-three years ago)

Did not an author painstakingly construct a full story, in fact a book, satisfying this condition? (although in Gallic form)

I nod. But ask if said author put his sign upon 'Disparition' (also known as 'A Void'), or if it was anonymous? For his sign (or stamp, or flourish) contains much that is taboo.

Momus (Momus), Thursday, 24 October 2002 17:37 (twenty-three years ago)

Right, Ray and Hand, that is why this discussion has its caption: "A Void" in our translation, or "La Disparition" in original Gallic; but I cannot inform you of its author now, just his initials GP. What was writ upon said book's front to signal its authorship? I don't know, just a blank? I am ignorant of that original work, alas, though I wish I wasn't. Is it worth a look? Is its translation apt, or is it clumsy and distant from its original form for sticking to such constraints? A tough job and a tough act to follow, no doubt.

His following book brought back that glyph, and only that and consonants. A book without S? I don't know that. You could start a lipogrammatic topic for ILX in that way too, or has this grown boring now?

R (reb), Thursday, 24 October 2002 17:40 (twenty-three years ago)

Momus posts first as I hit "submit"! And so I look foolish, not a first. Sigh...

(Today's month is not so good for this topic, nor my own login tag. Sorry!)

R (reb), Thursday, 24 October 2002 17:43 (twenty-three years ago)

Login tags don't count.

Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Thursday, 24 October 2002 17:46 (twenty-three years ago)

Argh! duh!

Void,
a void,
a common symbol, (or glyph)
ray,
a drop of gold'n sun...

Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Thursday, 24 October 2002 17:48 (twenty-three years ago)

His nom d'tout was G(void)org(void)s P(void)r(void)c.

Disparition's translation is award-winning and for obvious and so on -- oddest bit is a soliloquoy from a Danish fils-du-roi in a work by "William Shakspar," found in a flat, which I think in Gallic form clung to common Gallic translation of Shakspar but in Anglophic form reverted to Shakspar as-is: possibly a solitary thing about this translation that was possibly "not as difficult" for translator than author.

nabisco (nabisco), Thursday, 24 October 2002 17:51 (twenty-three years ago)

"Oddest" -- drat! (Also "Anglophonic")

nabisco (nabisco), Thursday, 24 October 2002 17:52 (twenty-three years ago)

I was going to put down a long paragraph, but will just say "HAHA" at Nabisco.

Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Thursday, 24 October 2002 17:55 (twenty-three years ago)

any way you want it!

jel -- (jel), Thursday, 24 October 2002 18:05 (twenty-three years ago)

Ah, "most odd", I nod. :)

Actually, now I think of it, what translations could I find apart from Adair's "A Void"? And is this outcast symbol not most popular in any linguistic word groups using Latin symbols, as in our own local form of communication? Do translations to such lingo, if any, shun a distinct glyph to maintain that spirit? I am curious, oranj (how thankful I am for Mark Smith's unorthographic obstinacy now, too).

Good god, this constraint brings no favours for my always clumsy writing.

Rebecca (reb), Thursday, 24 October 2002 18:13 (twenty-three years ago)

"My soul is full of discord and dismay." Shakspar

bnw (bnw), Thursday, 24 October 2002 18:22 (twenty-three years ago)

DANG i think i should point out that your using of "knobgoblins" asks that you PAY CASH cos i hold copyright on that particular word-construct. hmph. and alang and RickyT STOP HASSLING I!!!

katie (katie), Thursday, 24 October 2002 18:30 (twenty-three years ago)

Fuck that, low-fi cosmos-admiral, you rockin it off da mothafuckin chain!

nabisco (nabisco), Thursday, 24 October 2002 18:31 (twenty-three years ago)

why don't you all stop analyzing words and things and just sit back and talk such as normal folks talk?

random googlr (mitchlnw), Thursday, 24 October 2002 18:36 (twenty-three years ago)

Random googlr, do you lick nazis?

felicity (felicity), Thursday, 24 October 2002 18:57 (twenty-three years ago)

"My soul is full of discord and dismay. I MUST DUNK ON YOUR SORRY ASS AND PUNCH YOUR UGLY MUG." - Shaq-spar.

Ms G is blowing up my M.O. with furious indignation, but I gots no moola. *sob*

Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Thursday, 24 October 2002 19:07 (twenty-three years ago)

You own the spirits of the artistic continuua, Mr. Bad Mang. Good gold coin will still fall within your grasp.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 24 October 2002 19:09 (twenty-three years ago)

Brilliant translation of La Disparition to A Void was by G. Adair, who also did a GP story I cannot talk about now with no A, I, O or U in it!

Martin Skidmore (Martin Skidmore), Thursday, 24 October 2002 19:54 (twenty-three years ago)

"Continuua"?

Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Thursday, 24 October 2002 19:58 (twenty-three years ago)

Implying an amount > than a solo continuum.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 24 October 2002 20:00 (twenty-three years ago)

It is a valid pluralization of continuum.

felicity (felicity), Thursday, 24 October 2002 20:02 (twenty-three years ago)

Clarification: "Continuua?"

Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Thursday, 24 October 2002 20:03 (twenty-three years ago)

Without it, no luv, no shagging, but lots of snogging. A tad too damp in my opinion.

jel -- (jel), Thursday, 24 October 2002 20:09 (twenty-three years ago)

An additional "u" is to imply that which is > than simply continua.

felicity (felicity), Thursday, 24 October 2002 20:38 (twenty-three years ago)

Though Dan may own this point, still, I laugh at his antics anyway, the silly boy and bad mang.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 24 October 2002 20:41 (twenty-three years ago)

I did my utmost to stand up for you.

felicity (felicity), Thursday, 24 October 2002 20:46 (twenty-three years ago)

Ragman: GOTCHA! (scan your last contribution)

Touugh luuck, buuddy. I'll buy you a good stout at our next big 'do.

Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Thursday, 24 October 2002 20:49 (twenty-three years ago)

"Fancy a pint?"

How glorious that this of all word-combinations can trip from my lips without crypticity!

Tom (Groke), Thursday, 24 October 2002 21:22 (twenty-three years ago)

Poo. Still, Darius is smug. ;-)

Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 24 October 2002 21:32 (twenty-three years ago)

If only folks could try so willingly to comply with a boycott of italics.

felicity (felicity), Thursday, 24 October 2002 22:13 (twenty-three years ago)

I can't think straight this way. What's odd: I'm thinking in full wordgroups and trying to sub in synonyms (that is, swapping out individual sinning words). I should try to modify organic phrasings from bottom up, sorta. It this what smart folks do?

Plus, you know, I'm sad cos Nabisco has proposals and adoring mail (although looking again I say it's simply SPAM; good try, suckah!) and all I got is a grim 'no thank you your skills not apt for this' blah and my pal L saying 'too ill to visit on Saturday'. What a lowly toil this mortal coil is.

What's up with italics, Fliss?

Ellie (Ellie), Thursday, 24 October 2002 22:20 (twenty-three years ago)

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abcd fghijklmnopqrstuvwxyz

the Hegemon, Friday, 25 October 2002 02:31 (twenty-three years ago)

You guys is crazy

atomic sound of jim (electricsound), Friday, 25 October 2002 02:35 (twenty-three years ago)



take two
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The Hegemon, Friday, 25 October 2002 02:50 (twenty-three years ago)

Ahhhh. Now I am cognizant of your goal informing all odd grammatical configurations put forth. Took a couple of hours, though. Would that my mind could think of words and groups of words that fit comfortably. It's fucking frustrating, no doubt about that. Grrrr.

Thank God I can still cuss.

David R. (popshots75`), Friday, 25 October 2002 04:56 (twenty-three years ago)

i could go a vodka right about now..

electric sound of jim (electricsound), Friday, 25 October 2002 04:59 (twenty-three years ago)

most propitious string to by and by unfurl.

ch. (synkro), Friday, 25 October 2002 05:05 (twenty-three years ago)

Totally, filth is critical in doing this stuff. Filth is all mostly umm Nordic umm pardon Tootonic (sp?) (catch what I did with that?) so no Norman Gallic glyphy word-closings, just good old guttural "fick"s and such.

nabisco (nabisco), Friday, 25 October 2002 05:27 (twenty-three years ago)

Ms. P: I find too promiscuous an application of italics irking as a substitution for simply writing in a convincing way.

felicity (felicity), Friday, 25 October 2002 06:32 (twenty-three years ago)

I hadn't thought this discussion would work! Truly, it says Ilxor ain't as dumb as all that, no sir. Also I go for short Anglo-Saxon words anyway - all Norman/Roman guff is too much on our minds, I think. So not only filth, but all our communication is plain and guttural now. I dig it.

So, is La Disparition > A Void? Do Frogs own a similar Gaulish, non-Roman fund of words to draw on? Was GP's translator's task not that hard?

Sam (chirombo), Friday, 25 October 2002 07:53 (twenty-three years ago)

I think that this is about auditory grasp of words -- that is, it is good to think from thought to sound whilst doing this sort of thing, not staying by words as words. Is that which I say in this bit a thing you all can grasp?

Colin Meeder (Mert), Friday, 25 October 2002 08:13 (twenty-three years ago)

summon it to stop, oh lord!

jel -- (jel), Friday, 25 October 2002 08:18 (twenty-three years ago)

Our writing without glyphs has a dry, chalky quality. It's good.

Colin I grok your insights but I dont shun glyph-sounds, just its typographical form.

Tom (Groke), Friday, 25 October 2002 08:18 (twenty-three years ago)

Living or not living, that is my inquiry
If 'tis worthy in comparison in your mind to succumb
To slings and arrows of shocking karma
Or to carry arms against a briny of tribulations
And by opposing, finish that group.

Sam (chirombo), Friday, 25 October 2002 08:22 (twenty-three years ago)

I always thought that author a cunt for writing a book in such a way, but also my uni tutor for ably fulfilling his duty as its translator. Yup, both cunts.

Madchen (Madchen), Friday, 25 October 2002 08:28 (twenty-three years ago)

Try as I might I can't crowbar it into stanza-form that scans. All that circumlocution aids you not a whit.

Sam (chirombo), Friday, 25 October 2002 08:29 (twenty-three years ago)

GP's lipogram consists of 26 major story parts, though it actually jumps from parts four to six leaving out the fifth (obv!). In part 10 is a Gallic translation of many stanzas by Victor Hugo, and on translating La Disparition into A Void this turns into an Anglo-Saxon translation of a scary and famous rhyming story about a large blackbird (or rook). Brilliant.

Alan (Alan), Friday, 25 October 2002 08:34 (twenty-three years ago)

(fuck) "four to six missing out a fifth (obv!)" and "a big blackbird (or rook)"

Alan (Alan), Friday, 25 October 2002 08:35 (twenty-three years ago)

Oh, by a famous Yank horror author?

Sam (chirombo), Friday, 25 October 2002 08:38 (twenty-three years ago)

spot on.

Alan (Alan), Friday, 25 October 2002 08:44 (twenty-three years ago)

A Yank author from Tiny Town, aka Charm City, who was fond of a young lass in his family and who drank too much.

Colin Meeder (Mert), Friday, 25 October 2002 08:49 (twenty-three years ago)

Lucy (sorry for ignoring your nom d'ilx, but I have no option): why so harsh?

Tim (Tim), Friday, 25 October 2002 09:04 (twenty-three years ago)

haha oops

Tim (Tim), Friday, 25 October 2002 09:05 (twenty-three years ago)

Wow! This string has caught on similar to a building alight!

Miss Laura, Friday, 25 October 2002 09:39 (twenty-three years ago)

I find such crazy plots too smart for my liking.

Madchen (Madchen), Friday, 25 October 2002 09:43 (twenty-three years ago)

Still, you post. As do all of us.

Colin Meeder (Mert), Friday, 25 October 2002 09:45 (twenty-three years ago)

Mostly, though, I am happy that cunt (plus additional bad words) fit our bill.

Madchen (Madchen), Friday, 25 October 2002 09:45 (twenty-three years ago)

I didn't know you had a bill, MIU. Similar to a duck's?

Also: MIU Album by Brian Wilson's band: was it for you?

Tim (Tim), Friday, 25 October 2002 09:54 (twenty-three years ago)

Fuck a duck. (Ha, my posts to this topic fit right in with my full body of ILX posts.)

Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Friday, 25 October 2002 11:16 (twenty-three years ago)

Dang, that all-important word "oozing" is missing from your last post.

Tim (Tim), Friday, 25 October 2002 11:18 (twenty-three years ago)

"Fuck an oozing duck." No, I can't put a thumbs-up on that, Tom. Too nasty.

Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Friday, 25 October 2002 11:20 (twenty-three years ago)

Oooh, but I can say "oozing fucksocks"!

Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Friday, 25 October 2002 11:21 (twenty-three years ago)

cuntymints

Alan (Alan), Friday, 25 October 2002 11:25 (twenty-three years ago)

Yay b3ta!

Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Friday, 25 October 2002 11:27 (twenty-three years ago)

since when have we decided the fewer 'e's the better? more 'e's, please.

RJG (RJG), Friday, 25 October 2002 11:38 (twenty-three years ago)

Who is this man? Why say such shit on this good topic? Away, foul glyph!

Colin Meeder (Mert), Friday, 25 October 2002 13:19 (twenty-three years ago)

Avaunt, thou foul glyph! I cast thy odiousness from my CUNTY ASSLIPS.

(no no don't hit "Submit" oh damn)

Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Friday, 25 October 2002 13:41 (twenty-three years ago)

no-one else cares except me, seemingly. perry, meeder, everyone--please feel free replying, like before, 'e's excluded. whatever.

earlier someone requested thread explained: easy.

RJG (RJG), Friday, 25 October 2002 14:01 (twenty-three years ago)

That was v.poor RJG, if you did want to omit a, i, o and u from your post.

Graham (graham), Friday, 25 October 2002 14:08 (twenty-three years ago)

H3y guys! I just r3aliz3d that th3r3's a r3ally gr3at loophol3 that can b3 3xploit3d if th3r3's a word you absolut3ly hav3 to us3!

Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Friday, 25 October 2002 14:11 (twenty-three years ago)

leave me alone.

RJG (RJG), Friday, 25 October 2002 14:12 (twenty-three years ago)

Re RJGee's message - there's one e - more - per each signifier, Gee.

Ellie (Ellie), Friday, 25 October 2002 14:13 (twenty-three years ago)

I couldn't pull up ILX for a bit, so I got panicky. What was I to do? Work? I think not!

Sarah McLusky (coco), Friday, 25 October 2002 14:16 (twenty-three years ago)

To do this task in a way that is hard for HaX0rs, avoid X and 3.

Colin Meeder (Mert), Friday, 25 October 2002 14:22 (twenty-three years ago)

Dan is a wimp for using this 3. Laugh at him duly.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 25 October 2002 14:47 (twenty-three years ago)

I was just making a point, ass-banjo. (Contortionist filth-words: Classic or Dud?)

Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Friday, 25 October 2002 14:49 (twenty-three years ago)

Combining an anus with a banjo truly is a sign of psychological flaws.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 25 October 2002 15:18 (twenty-three years ago)

But Oh! how it sounds!

Colin Meeder (Mert), Friday, 25 October 2002 15:20 (twenty-three years ago)

B-b-b-ut Dan is combining an ass, not an anus, with a banjo.

Now Donut Bitch should show us his Photoshop skills with a burro and guitar.

felicity (felicity), Friday, 25 October 2002 15:21 (twenty-three years ago)

B-b-b-ut Dan is combining an ass, not an anus, with a banjo.

No doubt. But the implication remains.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 25 October 2002 15:51 (twenty-three years ago)

Poo. A flaw occurs in that row of words.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 25 October 2002 15:52 (twenty-three years ago)

All this talk of shit and bottoms! Call an Austrian doctor! Dr. Joy!

Colin Meeder (Mert), Friday, 25 October 2002 16:00 (twenty-three years ago)

eeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
eeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
eeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee

RJG (RJG), Friday, 25 October 2002 16:05 (twenty-three years ago)

"All this talk of bums and banjos
is a root of all my shaking!"
-- Gang of Four

nabisco (nabisco), Friday, 25 October 2002 16:52 (twenty-three years ago)

"If nabisco is only blood and iron/
Oh doctor, doctor, what's in his shirt?"

felicity (felicity), Friday, 25 October 2002 21:06 (twenty-three years ago)

four months pass...
A dull morning's work squats on my horizon so I pull up this old baby for a good guffaw.

Sam (chirombo), Tuesday, 4 March 2003 09:30 (twenty-two years ago)

Vivify!

Chris P (Chris P), Tuesday, 4 March 2003 09:57 (twenty-two years ago)

Why is work so blah? What do you do? (Or, what don't you do?) That is, if you don't mind my asking.

Chris P (Chris P), Tuesday, 4 March 2003 09:59 (twenty-two years ago)

Yum yum, today I bought a strange flavour of almond drink of stimulation! I am looking forward to it's ways!

Sarah (starry), Tuesday, 4 March 2003 10:06 (twenty-two years ago)

I forgot what fun this was!

Vis-a-vis JtN's point "Linguistic hobbling: akin to a lit-olympics for kids with a disability? ": don't all artists work with arbitrary constraints? Why not glory in it, now and again, for fun? Or to know about writing's limits, to touch its bounds?

Tim (Tim), Tuesday, 4 March 2003 10:14 (twenty-two years ago)

Chris, I tap-tap-tap away on data-moving programs for a bank.

Sam (chirombo), Tuesday, 4 March 2003 10:20 (twenty-two years ago)

This is brilliant.

suzy (suzy), Tuesday, 4 March 2003 10:36 (twenty-two years ago)

Work is not that blah, in truth. Today, though, carnivalling shuold occur! Tis Mardi Gras and yet all travail, forsooth!

Sam (chirombo), Tuesday, 4 March 2003 10:38 (twenty-two years ago)

FUCK.

and STILL all travail

Sam (chirombo), Tuesday, 4 March 2003 10:38 (twenty-two years ago)

Too long in construction and I am overtook by you guys!

Ah, transformations of digital data - I too am at this task, for my sins. Local Council work is so fulfilling, particularly on this Occupational ummm 'Soothing' branch of affairs. Ho ho.

This Void shindig is fun, no? Brain now hurts a bit though. Mayhap a blob of mastication gum on my inputting board at a good position would aid this show of bright circumlocution.

Oh, to talk in crosswords all day long.

Liz :x (Liz :x), Tuesday, 4 March 2003 10:42 (twenty-two years ago)

Sarah's first post got it wrong, I'm sorry to say. Sub 'odd'.

Martin Skidmore (Martin Skidmore), Tuesday, 4 March 2003 18:13 (twenty-two years ago)

Martin's vision is oh so sharp, to spot that was first class.

jel -- (jel), Tuesday, 4 March 2003 18:19 (twenty-two years ago)

This morning my alarm was lacking, or I was lacking in naps. I was on my pillow too long. But now I'm at work, plugging away.

It's Mardi Gras? Crap. Not that I had plans to go drinking or anything, though, so it won't ruin my day so much. But, ugh. Drunk fools. Vomit will flow through our city roads tonight! But piss will wash it away.

Chris P (Chris P), Tuesday, 4 March 2003 18:27 (twenty-two years ago)

I had primo foul argot in this convo.

Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Tuesday, 4 March 2003 18:59 (twenty-two years ago)

I can't think of why you shouldn't add to our naughty vocabulary. Go on with it, Dan.

Chris P (Chris P), Tuesday, 4 March 2003 19:58 (twenty-two years ago)

mmmm, rolling up the rim to win. Man, I fancy my java.

Mr Noodles (Mr Noodles), Tuesday, 4 March 2003 20:04 (twenty-two years ago)

Java or Jawa?

Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Tuesday, 4 March 2003 20:06 (twenty-two years ago)

Today I will munch only on things I can talk about with this constraint. So far today: A banana, a mug of java, and now trail mix. What to do for lunch? Soup? A sandwich? Who knows!

(Now that I think about it, I didn't actually "munch" on my java; I drank it. It's not as if it was full of grinds...)

Chris P (Chris P), Tuesday, 4 March 2003 20:09 (twenty-two years ago)

I think you would all find as much [if not, say, major] difficulty in not avoiding your foul glyph, or so, and making it a must for inclusion in all words in a post. I think.

RJG (RJG), Tuesday, 4 March 2003 20:14 (twenty-two years ago)

Java or Jawa is my favouritist musical group!

jel -- (jel), Tuesday, 4 March 2003 20:16 (twenty-two years ago)

You know that A Void's author had a follow-up book (a short book, though) which only had that particular glyph and forbad A I O and U? Obviously I can't say what that book is known as, not right now, but I said it in that OuLiPo discussion.

Such a discussion, with only that glyph and no A I O or U, would wind up difficult, yup.

Chris P (Chris P), Tuesday, 4 March 2003 20:22 (twenty-two years ago)

Mayhaps a switch to not using A is now U&K?

jel -- (jel), Tuesday, 4 March 2003 20:27 (twenty-two years ago)

Would that gylph occupy fifth amoungst consonants?

Mr Noodles (Mr Noodles), Tuesday, 4 March 2003 20:29 (twenty-two years ago)

I can think of a fantastic thing to munch on that avoids our unkind glyph, but I can't munch on it in public. (I am hinting at snatch, natch.)

(Haha "Shut up, snatch munch!")

Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Tuesday, 4 March 2003 20:30 (twenty-two years ago)

But not using A is not as difficult as not using this missing glyph.

You don't dig fun!

Chris P (Chris P), Tuesday, 4 March 2003 20:30 (twenty-two years ago)

Dan, always nothing but ass on his mind.

Mr Noodles (Mr Noodles), Tuesday, 4 March 2003 20:32 (twenty-two years ago)

Today has thus far run wondrously: morning mail's happy arrival brought a copy of "Non-Fiction Accounts of Adoration," an album by that nu-waif prankist John of a Jilting. I am glad to find this discussion springing back to activity!

nabisco (nabisco), Tuesday, 4 March 2003 20:33 (twenty-two years ago)

Dan, cockmunching would also work. But not at work (thanks to that "don't harrass" policy). I don't know why you always slight that mighty phallus!

Chris P (Chris P), Tuesday, 4 March 2003 20:34 (twenty-two years ago)

(It is obvious that I am so into this fun that soon this discussion will outdo that "can you know if a guy is gay or not without him saying it" discussion w/r/t how many posts it has. I'm sorry.)

Chris P (Chris P), Tuesday, 4 March 2003 20:39 (twenty-two years ago)

Chris, I would say "cock gnaw".

Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Tuesday, 4 March 2003 20:40 (twenty-two years ago)

void* this_thread(person* me);

donut bitch (donut), Tuesday, 4 March 2003 20:41 (twenty-two years ago)

Donut Bitch OWNZ (naughty glyph and all)

Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Tuesday, 4 March 2003 20:43 (twenty-two years ago)

Also, lipogram-fans of today may wish to jot this down: author Mark Dunn has, in print, a book known as "(signification for girl) Minnow (signification for carrots' pals)," in which many glyphs gradually lipogram away. It is a passably good book, but probably only if you undergo a particularly short approach to it; it's my suspicion that if I'd worn out a big amount of a clock on it and not simply a day's conclusion, I would find my thoughts not so charitable.

nabisco (nabisco), Tuesday, 4 March 2003 20:44 (twenty-two years ago)

("worn out a big amount of a clock" = not far away from filth)

Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Tuesday, 4 March 2003 20:47 (twenty-two years ago)

I can't think of why you shouldn't add to our naughty vocabulary.

hahahaha "BINGO WINGS"!

felicity (felicity), Tuesday, 4 March 2003 20:49 (twenty-two years ago)

I don't think there's anything that isn't 'not far away from filth' for you, Mr. Perry.

oops (Oops), Tuesday, 4 March 2003 20:51 (twenty-two years ago)

Guilty.

Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Tuesday, 4 March 2003 20:51 (twenty-two years ago)

Nabisco, do you know about Christian Bök's book, in which first all words contain A (and not our glyph, I, O, or U); part two has all our glyph (not A, I, O or U); and so on? Folks say good things about that book but I can't find it at my local book shop.

I thought similar things about Abish's Africa book; what I did dig about that book was how his writing was similar using words that start with A and using words that start with any glyph. But it was no A Void.

Chris P (Chris P), Tuesday, 4 March 2003 20:58 (twenty-two years ago)

Abish's was fun, but Chris is right that it is no A Void.

Martin Skidmore (Martin Skidmore), Tuesday, 4 March 2003 21:05 (twenty-two years ago)

It is so frustrating. I sought, but I did not find said books in my library. Charitably put, it is a most unscholarly institution. Many, if not most, of our books thoroughly lack words (not just a particular symbol) and contain nothing but paintings, drawings or photographs. And you call this a post-high school institution? How can a kid gain any schooling this way?

Kerry (dymaxia), Tuesday, 4 March 2003 22:06 (twenty-two years ago)

Your library ought to own A Void, but you can't usually find Abish and Bök's books so simply. And good luck finding Gadsby!

My local book shop sold Abish's book for just a skosh of cash ($3.98!): if you don't know this Portland book shop's URL, you can click this.

Chris P (Chris P), Tuesday, 4 March 2003 22:32 (twenty-two years ago)

I was hoping to hold onto my own cash. But as I apportion bucks for this library, I can buy such things at will. Chris, you can try alibris . I think I saw this Bok book. Hurry!

Kerry (dymaxia), Tuesday, 4 March 2003 22:52 (twenty-two years ago)

Ha! At alibris, you can buy an old, worn copy of Bok's book for $17 -- or pay $12 a copy that nobody has lain hands on! Silly.

Chris P (Chris P), Tuesday, 4 March 2003 22:58 (twenty-two years ago)

This thread is full of perversity that disturbs my tender and fragile sensibilities. You should be ashamed.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 4 March 2003 23:19 (twenty-two years ago)

I think what this man is saying is: "This discussion is full of fuckt-up shiznit that puts my mortal mind a-whirl. Carry on."

Chris P (Chris P), Tuesday, 4 March 2003 23:56 (twenty-two years ago)

Aww, Sir Ragman is all "boo-hoo, your quim/dick talk is causing my boo-hoo buttons to ping".

Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Wednesday, 5 March 2003 00:07 (twenty-two years ago)

I RISE ABOVE SUCH FILTH. To find my own level.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 5 March 2003 00:09 (twenty-two years ago)

Ah, Ned said it, no wait, I said it, aaaaaaaaaaaah.

Mr Noodles (Mr Noodles), Wednesday, 5 March 2003 00:14 (twenty-two years ago)

(Ragman wants us to ping his boo-hoo buttons? RUN AWAY!)

Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Wednesday, 5 March 2003 00:18 (twenty-two years ago)

The buttons could be carried by an African swallow.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 5 March 2003 00:20 (twenty-two years ago)

I enjoy that you won't stoop to imitating a guy who follows of this topic, NR.

Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Wednesday, 5 March 2003 00:22 (twenty-two years ago)

I would never do that.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 5 March 2003 00:26 (twenty-two years ago)

BAD GRAMMAR IS MY ALLY.

Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Wednesday, 5 March 2003 00:30 (twenty-two years ago)

Ally doesn't belong to YOU, you punk.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 5 March 2003 00:32 (twenty-two years ago)

Punk? PUNK????

QUAIL IN FRONT OF MY MIGHTY PHALLUS!

Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Wednesday, 5 March 2003 00:33 (twenty-two years ago)

oh no, tool of the patriach, oh no

Mr Noodles (Mr Noodles), Wednesday, 5 March 2003 00:40 (twenty-two years ago)

(haha "tool")

Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Wednesday, 5 March 2003 00:41 (twenty-two years ago)

NR says: Do not constrain my brain! Do not constrain my words! Would you constrain my hair? No! It must flow as Niagara, mighty and moist!

This man, who asks for 26 glyphs (although 25 will obviously do), truly lacks for fun.

Chris P (Chris P), Wednesday, 5 March 2003 00:51 (twenty-two years ago)

A great philosopher once wrote
Naughty, naughty, very naughty
Ha ha ha ha ha

There's a guy in the place
He's got a bittersweet face
And he goes by the name of Ebeneezer Goode
His friends call him Eezer and he is the main geezer
And he'll vibe about the place like no other man could
He's refined, he's sublime, he makes you feel fine
Though very much maligned and misunderstood
But if you know Eezer he's a real crowd pleaser
He's ever so good, he's Ebeneezer Goode
You can see that he's mischievious, mysterious and devious
When he circulates amongst the people in the place
But once you know he's fun and something of a genius
He gives a grin that goes around from face to face to face
Backwards and then forwards, forwards and then backwards
Eezer is the geezer who loves to muscle in
That's about the time the crowd all shout the name of Eezer
As he's kotcheled in the corner, laughing by the bass bin

Eezer Goode, Eezer Goode
He's Ebeneezer Goode
Eezer Goode, Eezer Goode
He's Ebeneezer Goode
Eezer Goode, Eezer Goode
He's Ebeneezer Goode
Eezer Goode, Eezer Goode
He's Ebeneezer Goode
He's Ebeneezer Goode

Has anybody got any veras
Lovely
Ha ha ha ha ha
Ha ha ha ha ha

A great philosopher once wrote
Naughty, naughty, very naughty
Ha ha ha ha ha

Ebeneezer Goode, leading light of the scene
Know what I mean, see
He created the vibe
He takes you for a ride and as if by design
The party ignites like he's comin alive
He takes you to the top, shakes you all around
Then back down, you know as he gets mellow
Then as smooth as the groove that is making you move
He glides into your mind with a sunny Hello
A gentleman of leisure, he's there for your pleasure
But go easy on old Eezer he's the love you could lose
Extraordinary fellow, like Mr. Punchinello
He's the kind of geezer who must never be abused
When you're in town and Ebeneezer is around
You can sense a presence in the sound of the crowd
He gets them all at it, the party starts rocking
The people get excited it's time to shout loud

Eezer Goode, Eezer Goode
He's Ebeneezer Goode
Eezer Goode, Eezer Goode
He's Ebeneezer Goode
Eezer Goode, Eezer Goode
He's Ebeneezer Goode
Eezer Goode, Eezer Goode
He's Ebeneezer Goode

He's Ebeneezer Goode
He's Ebeneezer Goode
Eezer Goode, Eezer Goode
Eezer Goode, Eezer Goode
He's Ebeneezer Goode

Got any salmon Sorted
Ha ha ha ha ha
Ha ha ha ha ha
Eezer Goode, Eezer Goode
Eezer Goode, Eezer Goode
Oh what a carry on, ha ha ha ha ha
Eezer Goode, Eezer Goode
Wicked
Eezer Goode, Eezer Goode
He's Ebeneezer Goode

He's Ebeneezer Goode
Oh what a carry on, ha ha ha ha ha
He's Ebeneezer Goode
Eezer Goode, Eezer Goode
Wicked
Eezer Goode, Eezer Goode
He's Ebeneezer Goode
He's Ebeneezer Goode
He's Ebeneezer Goode
Eezer Goode, Eezer Goode

Lynskey (Lynskey), Wednesday, 5 March 2003 01:59 (twenty-two years ago)

*rereads this thread* Oh good grief, one of these goddamn word game things. Fuck everyone! *sulks*

Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 5 March 2003 02:40 (twenty-two years ago)

hahahahahahahahahahihohu.

RJG (RJG), Wednesday, 5 March 2003 02:42 (twenty-two years ago)

eight months pass...
An upstart string usurps our bold original - show your true colours, curs!

Sam (chirombo), Tuesday, 18 November 2003 08:47 (twenty-two years ago)

Oh, lack of mod-privs is bad. I should say "show your actual colours, curs!"

Sam (chirombo), Tuesday, 18 November 2003 08:49 (twenty-two years ago)

For our Brit ILXors, a new topic: "Don't talk with U", and us U.S. folk will post about "colors" all day long!

Casuistry (Chris P), Tuesday, 18 November 2003 09:28 (twenty-two years ago)

Cor I was just thinking about this topic in days past.

Sarah (starry), Tuesday, 18 November 2003 10:30 (twenty-two years ago)

Is this in conjunction with a particular book, Stars?

Ricardo (RickyT), Tuesday, 18 November 2003 10:39 (twenty-two years ago)

Tha Fifth Head Of A Mythical Dog That Was Supposed To Bear two plus a solo cranium? Not that book, nay!

Sarah (starry), Tuesday, 18 November 2003 10:43 (twenty-two years ago)

Aha, I spy Sarah using the wrong glyph.

Ricardo (RickyT), Tuesday, 18 November 2003 11:02 (twenty-two years ago)

Bollocks. And that was such hard work!

OK!

Tha Fifth Skull Of A Mythical Dog That Shoulda Born Two Skulls Plus One Solo Cranium Also?

That was crap.

Sarah (starry), Tuesday, 18 November 2003 11:06 (twenty-two years ago)

No again, Sarah! 1 should stay a digit!

Martin Skidmore (Martin Skidmore), Tuesday, 18 November 2003 13:46 (twenty-two years ago)

TITS!!!!!!!!!!

(That works).

Sarah (starry), Tuesday, 18 November 2003 13:49 (twenty-two years ago)

Post without using the letter E.

In this opposition, "old-ILx" and "nu-ILx" show distinguishing traits. Old- follows an obliquity of form and approach; by contrast, nu- lays it all out for you. Which do you favor?

felicity (felicity), Tuesday, 18 November 2003 17:56 (twenty-two years ago)

thirteen years pass...

Is it fun to chat at oulipo.social? Possibly, says 00s hip snark rag's computational branch:

It's as if chirping, but you can't say a particular glyph

(I found a trio of similar post-strands, all ur-old-ILX, and am a bit sorry to mar such classic original discussions with au courant postings, but that's how it is...)

a passing spacecadet, Thursday, 13 April 2017 19:51 (eight years ago)

I can has gr8r simplicity of glyph omission in post-txting, post-lolcat days

also ctrl-F highlighting is a boon to compositional validation not to hand as this topic was first thought about by Adair or Francophonic authors, but also probably not for ILX only an unlucky sum of annual rotations ago, if I think back rightly

(circumlocution around a count brings to mind a thing I saw in my Anglo translation of "A Void": GP's original "La Disparition" picks words which fulfil his constraints for counts of things, and "A Void"'s translator holds on to said arbitrary sums writ out as digits, a slightly jarring shortcut)

a passing spacecadet, Thursday, 13 April 2017 20:15 (eight years ago)


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