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I went to 'Sans Soleil' on Friday. Notwithstanding the fact that cinema 2 at the ICA has the tiniest screen in London, and there was a big galoot in front of me obscuring half the subtitles, I found it an absolutely astonishing experience. When I got home, I reread Thomson's entry on Marker in ABDoF and discovered that it was made in 1984 - which made the experience even more astonishing, because it seemed such a profoundly modern film. Not so much in the way it looked (although the look was spectacular, too), but in its sensibility - like some gorgeous hybrid of Roland Barthes, Patrick Keiller and Steve Erickson. I think we're still catching up with things Marker was thinking about decades ago.

Anyway, now I'm kicking myself for not being more diligent and going along to the weekend of Marker films they had at the ICA last week. But it looks like I can get them on video or DVD - so which ones in particular should I look for (I'll take 'La Jetée' as a given)?

Jerry the Nipper (Jerrynipper), Monday, 25 November 2002 13:20 (twenty-three years ago)

ha 20 mins = they still cost £20!!

bob zemko (bob), Monday, 25 November 2002 13:37 (twenty-three years ago)

>>> The Last Bolshevik

mark s (mark s), Monday, 25 November 2002 14:22 (twenty-three years ago)

I see from 'The Bumper Book of Going to the Pictures' that he co-produced Patricio Guzman's 'The Battle of Chile', so can I vote for that? It also says here that he is 'an elusive man who [...] mischieviously invents mysterious origins for himself', so quite why Jerry the Nipper should feel any kind of affiliation with him is beyond me.

PJ Miller (PJ Miller), Monday, 25 November 2002 14:38 (twenty-three years ago)

You wouldn't have got into the short films last week anyhoo - I tried and failed it was sold out by the bucketloads.

Question asked by Time Out this week is why are they showing the French language version of San Soleil when there is an official English one out there (not as if there is a dubbing problem).

Pete (Pete), Monday, 25 November 2002 14:58 (twenty-three years ago)

I like Sans Soleil the best... 1982 I think it was released, I saw it 1991. Interesting because it was on late night TV in Tokyo last week in fact. Nice to see a little revivalism... Let's hope it follows me back to the States.

The Soundtrack... pure analog goodness: Tomita's take on Mussogorsky(sp)'s Pictures At An Exhibition/Onhe Sonne, Sibelius' Valeste Triste, really NASA sounding... stunning.

gygax!, Monday, 25 November 2002 15:54 (twenty-three years ago)

If you can find Level 5, it's quite good. It's from 1995, I believe.

^Diego^ (dhadis), Monday, 25 November 2002 17:39 (twenty-three years ago)

three months pass...
His films are very hard to see. One of my favorites is Description of a Struggle, made in Israel in 1960 or so. I posted a long description of La fond de l'air est rouge to another board but I can't find it right now.

Amateurist (amateurist), Tuesday, 11 March 2003 21:50 (twenty-three years ago)

This page seems like a pretty good resource.

Jerry the Nipper (Jerrynipper), Tuesday, 11 March 2003 22:13 (twenty-three years ago)

eight months pass...
okay brand new 35mm prints of "Sans Soleil" and "La Jetee" are making the circuit (castro theatre SF 11/21-27). i'm very very excited for this. remind me to watch vertigo again next week.

gygax! (gygax!), Tuesday, 18 November 2003 17:24 (twenty-two years ago)

g! - I would definitely be up for this.

@d@ml (nordicskilla), Tuesday, 18 November 2003 17:27 (twenty-two years ago)

Never seen "Sans Soleil".

@d@ml (nordicskilla), Tuesday, 18 November 2003 17:28 (twenty-two years ago)

gygax is this nationwide?

fiddo centington (dubplatestyle), Tuesday, 18 November 2003 17:29 (twenty-two years ago)

SEE IT IMMEDIATELY!

mark s (mark s), Tuesday, 18 November 2003 17:29 (twenty-two years ago)

both are on DVD in uk now (so on amazon presumably). i gotta say i was disappointed by 'sans soleil' -- but again the subtitles were a prob in the crowded cinema (and no, this doesn't usually afflict me). i wish i'd seen 'grin without a cat' -- it was on at the ica a year ago next monday and i was too ill to travel 120 miles, and i've regretted it ever since.

enrique (Enrique), Tuesday, 18 November 2003 17:30 (twenty-two years ago)

if hard pressed, i might say it is my favorite film of all time.

gygax! (gygax!), Tuesday, 18 November 2003 17:31 (twenty-two years ago)

Le Fond de l'air est rouge is one of my favorite films. So is La Jetee.

Eric H. (Eric H.), Tuesday, 18 November 2003 17:32 (twenty-two years ago)

(OK MARK!)

You don't need to be hard pressed, you've said it a few times on here..

(and the others were "Experiment In Terror" and "Superstar", obv.)

@d@ml (nordicskilla), Tuesday, 18 November 2003 17:32 (twenty-two years ago)

COUGH

gygax is this nationwide?

fiddo centington (dubplatestyle), Tuesday, 18 November 2003 17:33 (twenty-two years ago)

*presses gygax! hard, citing comic necessity as justification*

mark s (mark s), Tuesday, 18 November 2003 17:34 (twenty-two years ago)

@d@m, mike mayer and wolfy voigt could promise to come to my house spin special sets while they and their lovers pleasured me and i would still take a raincheck and head to the castro.

jess, i'm not sure where you are but it was at nga earlier this month... :(

mark s, ooh harder!

gygax! (gygax!), Tuesday, 18 November 2003 17:40 (twenty-two years ago)

i am in filthydelphia. i will call the local "art" theater today and see what's what.

fiddo centington (dubplatestyle), Tuesday, 18 November 2003 17:41 (twenty-two years ago)

mike mayer and wolfy voigt could promise to come to my house spin special sets while they and their lovers pleasured me and i would still take a raincheck and head to the castro.

Tough call, though.

@d@ml (nordicskilla), Tuesday, 18 November 2003 17:47 (twenty-two years ago)

Maybe not. I dunno.

@d@ml (nordicskilla), Tuesday, 18 November 2003 17:48 (twenty-two years ago)

Overrated.

Mary (Mary), Tuesday, 18 November 2003 21:15 (twenty-two years ago)

Uh oh.

@d@ml (nordicskilla), Tuesday, 18 November 2003 21:16 (twenty-two years ago)

I was really looking forward to seeing "San Soleil" at AFF, having heard so many good things about it. But, I thought it was a trawl, and condescending to Japanese culture to boot. No, not condescending, maybe overzealous? He looks at a flower and see the infinity and the reslilience of the Japanese people? I also thought it was kind of a bore. I haven't seen anything else since that major turn off though.

Mary (Mary), Tuesday, 18 November 2003 21:20 (twenty-two years ago)

check yr respective flavorpills people!

Yanc3y (ystrickler), Tuesday, 18 November 2003 21:22 (twenty-two years ago)

Yanc3y (ystrickler), Tuesday, 18 November 2003 21:22 (twenty-two years ago)

argh. why won't my corporate shill tag show up?

Yanc3y (ystrickler), Tuesday, 18 November 2003 21:23 (twenty-two years ago)

whuh?

@d@ml (nordicskilla), Tuesday, 18 November 2003 21:23 (twenty-two years ago)

flavorpill.net (my new job) has been listing the marker events in nyc, la, sf and london. just being lame.

Yanc3y (ystrickler), Tuesday, 18 November 2003 21:26 (twenty-two years ago)

Congrats on the job, yanc3y!

@d@ml (nordicskilla), Tuesday, 18 November 2003 21:28 (twenty-two years ago)

i think the two films are being distributed by new yorker. they came to the film forum a while ago yes?

"sans soleil" is indeed miraculous. "la fond..." is extremely interesting and worthwhile but more esoteric perhaps, it presumes a knowledge of and interest in european and worldwide left-wing movements of the 60s and 70s.

would that more of marker's vast ouevre be screened more often. i'm particularly fond of "letter from siberia" and "description of a struggle" (the latter about israel). oh wait i mentioned that upthread.

anyone else have "immemory," his handmade cd-rom? i was first a bit disappointed by it, expecting a labyrinth along the lines of contemporary video games. once i got used to its limits i found it extremely charming and diverting, but not really much more than that.

amateur!st (amateurist), Tuesday, 18 November 2003 21:55 (twenty-two years ago)

I am anxious to see it again bearing Mary's comments in mind, but my fascination with Sans Soleil is in the narrative, the flow, the flashbacks, it is a documentary unlike any documentary... so richly personal and engaging.

gygax! (gygax!), Tuesday, 18 November 2003 22:09 (twenty-two years ago)

i sound like a corny dork there, but what can i say.

gygax! (gygax!), Tuesday, 18 November 2003 22:13 (twenty-two years ago)

cool, yanc3y, I love flavorpill! Why is flavorpill london not spelled with a "u"? Also, this wasn't listed in the SF one which just arrived.

anthony kyle monday (akmonday), Tuesday, 18 November 2003 22:14 (twenty-two years ago)

i'll have to look at it again with mary's comments in mind.

i'm reminded of my experience with renoir's "the river," which bazin among others praised for its richness and humanity, traits i observed as well, alongside some very dated colonialist nostalgia and orientalist "eternal india" nonsense.

but what i think mary observed is just, in part at least, marker's mode.... he takes much the same approach to observation other places--siberia, israel, korea, even france--and it would perhaps get precious save for his self-deprecating sense of humor (he has an extraordinary sense of humor) and the fact that most of the observations are posed as questions, or as ruminations.

amateur!st (amateurist), Tuesday, 18 November 2003 22:20 (twenty-two years ago)

as for it being a "trawl" i couldn't agree less, i find it captivating, but to each her own taste.

amateur!st (amateurist), Tuesday, 18 November 2003 22:21 (twenty-two years ago)

the last bolshevik is good also (the only thing i have on tape for some reason)

mark s (mark s), Tuesday, 18 November 2003 22:54 (twenty-two years ago)

what's a flavorpill?

gygax! (gygax!), Tuesday, 18 November 2003 23:00 (twenty-two years ago)

(that was a joke, please don't answer!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!)

gygax! (gygax!), Tuesday, 18 November 2003 23:00 (twenty-two years ago)

mark s! come with me to the cinema!

gygax! (gygax!), Tuesday, 18 November 2003 23:00 (twenty-two years ago)

anyone else have "immemory," his handmade cd-rom? I have 'Immemory' and I think it's fantastic! I think there's a literary quality to it that makes less exhaustible than most other CD-ROMs I've played around with; it's the kind of thing Barthes or Calvino might have been doing if they had still been around. I especially like the photographic travelogue sections. I could do without the cartoon cat, Guillame of Egypt, however.

Jerry the Nipper (Jerrynipper), Tuesday, 18 November 2003 23:21 (twenty-two years ago)

haha marker has a very ilxor attitude to cats

mark s (mark s), Tuesday, 18 November 2003 23:23 (twenty-two years ago)

http://cs.art.rmit.edu.au/projects/media/marker/Sunless9.jpeg

gygax! (gygax!), Tuesday, 18 November 2003 23:51 (twenty-two years ago)

la jetwée

mark s (mark s), Wednesday, 19 November 2003 00:41 (twenty-two years ago)

"Real cats" is one of the most lovely stills in la Jetée. Of all the films I haven't yet seen, Sans soleil is probably the most surprising.

Eric H. (Eric H.), Wednesday, 19 November 2003 03:26 (twenty-two years ago)

the last bolshevik is good also (the only thing i have on tape for some reason)

god mark, i dunno, itv1 show 'loin de vietnam' on loop and still you persist in ignoring them...

enrique (Enrique), Wednesday, 19 November 2003 09:09 (twenty-two years ago)

i am now but one measly degree of separation from chris marker

interested parties may contact me via email

amateur!st (amateurist), Thursday, 27 November 2003 17:21 (twenty-two years ago)

Anything to do with sperm donation?

Markelby (Mark C), Thursday, 27 November 2003 17:46 (twenty-two years ago)

hahahano

amateur!st (amateurist), Thursday, 27 November 2003 18:27 (twenty-two years ago)

You're politically moderate?

Eric H. (Eric H.), Thursday, 27 November 2003 20:33 (twenty-two years ago)

ok that one flew past me

sorry for being cagey

amateur!st (amateurist), Thursday, 27 November 2003 22:44 (twenty-two years ago)

eleven months pass...
So, anyone know how I can snag a copy of Far from Vietnam with English subs? I'm afraid I will never see this film.

Eric H. (Eric H.), Saturday, 30 October 2004 04:44 (twenty-one years ago)

A couple of the I Love Film folk have requested that film posts be posted there instead of here in order to help revive their on-line film community. Just thought I'd mention it.

Hurting (Hurting), Saturday, 30 October 2004 05:07 (twenty-one years ago)

BEST FILM EVER MADE etc etc

bulbs (bulbs), Saturday, 30 October 2004 05:26 (twenty-one years ago)

'Sans Soleil' that is

bulbs (bulbs), Saturday, 30 October 2004 05:26 (twenty-one years ago)

So, anyone know how I can snag a copy of Far from Vietnam with English subs? I'm afraid I will never see this film.

-- Eric H. (ephende...), October 30th, 2004.

i can ask my collector friend about it. are you in the states or what?

i met the producer of this film recently.

amateur!!st, Saturday, 30 October 2004 05:59 (twenty-one years ago)

Hurting - it's no fun starting (or even reviving) a thread and getting no responses on ILF - this thread would have been lucky to get to a quarter of the length over there.

jed_ (jed), Saturday, 30 October 2004 10:41 (twenty-one years ago)

it's not like the ILB folk complain about book threads on ILX (i know you are not complaining either).

jed_ (jed), Saturday, 30 October 2004 10:42 (twenty-one years ago)

colin, do you like chris marker's films and would I?

cºzen (Cozen), Saturday, 30 October 2004 12:13 (twenty-one years ago)

i can ask my collector friend about it. are you in the states or what?

I implore you! I would be eternally in your debt just for questioning. (Yes, I'm in the states.)

Eric H. (Eric H.), Saturday, 30 October 2004 12:18 (twenty-one years ago)

Let's put it this way: I am about four or five internet sessions away from saying "fuck it" and ordering from this site (despite not really knowing very much French, at all, and fearing that Loin du Vietnam is probably a pretty talky film):

http://www.pimpadelicwonderland.com/havesgenres.html#Anchor-documentaries-43793

Eric H. (Eric H.), Monday, 1 November 2004 14:38 (twenty-one years ago)

i have only seen La Jetee, cozen. I love it and you would too, yes.

jed_ (jed), Monday, 1 November 2004 16:56 (twenty-one years ago)

there seem to be a few hosts for "La Jetee" on Limewire if you have a fast connection where you are.

jed_ (jed), Monday, 1 November 2004 17:01 (twenty-one years ago)

you can get far from vietnam on a japanese dvd, with japanese subtitles

la jetée is both very atypical of marker and quite representative of his concerns and obsessions (some of them)

amateur!!st, Monday, 1 November 2004 17:03 (twenty-one years ago)

i have la jetee on my computer if you have a gmail acct

firstworldman (firstworldman), Monday, 1 November 2004 17:53 (twenty-one years ago)

gmail can only handle 10 (or 20?) mb files at a time.

jed_ (jed), Monday, 1 November 2004 18:40 (twenty-one years ago)

ahh... most unfortunate... well.... anyone know of any online petitions or anything to get more chris marker films available on dvd here in the states? so far only la jetee, right?

firstworldman (firstworldman), Monday, 1 November 2004 18:47 (twenty-one years ago)

no marker films available on dvd in the states that i know of.

there is a sans soleil/la jetee dvd in the uk. and one in france.

his film "ak" is on certain deluxe editions of kurosawa's ran.

and inevitably there are things available in japan.

but otherwise, nothing.

most of his films have never enjoyed very good distribution, even some of the most famous ones like le joli mai.

i have some of his films on video dubs, but i can't make further copies for anyone, don't have the technical capabailities.

amateur!!st, Monday, 1 November 2004 19:17 (twenty-one years ago)

one problem is that chris marker tends to work ad-hoc, in a different production context for each film (at least, this was true through the 80s, i think the situation may be different for the past 15 years). he gets a comission or scrapes together funding from diverse sources. hence many problems getting the stuff into video release.

i'd like to see le mystere koumiko, cuba si, description d'un combat, etc. more widely available. not to mention le fond de l'air est rouge.

amateur!!st, Monday, 1 November 2004 19:18 (twenty-one years ago)

la jetee is available as part of the short circuit series on the dreams-issue dvd... widely available.

also, sans soleil is (or at least was) available on vhs here.

these, sadly, are the only 2 i've seen.

firstworldman (firstworldman), Monday, 1 November 2004 19:19 (twenty-one years ago)

la jetwée

-- mark s (mar...), November 19th, 2003.

ha!

amateur!!st, Monday, 1 November 2004 19:24 (twenty-one years ago)

i'd like to see... le fond de l'air est rouge.
-- amateur!!st (-...), November 1st, 2004 1:18 PM.


Perhaps the luckiest "catch" I've ever had in my moviegoing life. Actually, scratch that "perhaps."

Well, I'd imagine that I'll just buy the DVD burn of Vietnam and hope it's a little bit less chatty than Sans soleil or Last Bolshevik.

Eric H. (Eric H.), Monday, 1 November 2004 19:31 (twenty-one years ago)

is alain resnais worth investigating for fans of marker?

firstworldman (firstworldman), Monday, 1 November 2004 19:36 (twenty-one years ago)

He made a DVD rom a year or so ago - i remember reading a review in the wire.

jed_ (jed), Monday, 1 November 2004 21:17 (twenty-one years ago)

CD rom, of course.

Immemory

jed_ (jed), Monday, 1 November 2004 21:22 (twenty-one years ago)

This would have been a good topic to post at ILF.

jay blanchard (jay blanchard), Monday, 1 November 2004 21:27 (twenty-one years ago)

"immemory" was covered upthread, oops.

and here also

Chris Marker CD-Rom

jed_ (jed), Monday, 1 November 2004 21:28 (twenty-one years ago)

La Jetee is available in the states on Short 2: Dreams along with a bunch of uninteresting shorts from other people.

milozauckerman (miloaukerman), Monday, 1 November 2004 23:03 (twenty-one years ago)

I found an mpeg version of "Grin Without a Cat" on edonkey... I could probably share it on s0uls33k if anyone were to express interest.

Matthew C, Monday, 8 November 2004 21:48 (twenty-one years ago)

two years pass...
i have 953mb of 'grin without a cat'. in total it's 2gb. this is about day three i think.

That one guy that quit, Friday, 30 March 2007 12:57 (nineteen years ago)

I d/led it two years ago and still haven't watched all of it :/

Stevie T, Friday, 30 March 2007 13:07 (nineteen years ago)

I bought Le Jetee/Sans Soliel on DVD from Fopp last summer for £7 and still haven't watched that...

Michael Jones, Friday, 30 March 2007 13:10 (nineteen years ago)

i did get a rare-ass short about china from the late 50s off the internet the other day. i will watch. apparently marker himself is behind the suppression of his early stuff. i say apparently because that might be bollocks. but it is pretty striking how rare his old stuff is. 'grin' and the one about the train were both done as anglo versions by a leftist filmmaker called marc karlin (him, ray winstone, and marcello should meet, though karlin is dead) and i guess that might be why they're just about more seeable than, say, 'lettre a siberie'.

That one guy that quit, Friday, 30 March 2007 13:22 (nineteen years ago)

new criterion edition of La Jetee/Sans Soleil out in June.

Steve Shasta, Friday, 30 March 2007 13:57 (nineteen years ago)

'grin' and the one about the train were both done as anglo versions by a leftist filmmaker called marc karlin

?!

Eric H., Saturday, 31 March 2007 03:06 (nineteen years ago)

i don't mean completely overhauled! karlin was a young guy who was in paris in '68 and sort of worked for marker then. they stayed in touch and he put together the anglo versions is all i know. karlin (by the mid-70s) was part of the berwick street film collective, which made the famous doc 'nightcleaners'. he some films about left-wing... stufff for tv in the eighties, founded the magazine 'vertigo', and died young.

http://www.findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_qn4158/is_19990128/ai_n9659468

details are sketchy, but in an interview in a book called 'looking at class', karlin say: "In the mid-1970s I did the English version of Chris Marker's <<The Train Rolls On>>.

He says also that Marker kind of sent out a round-robin to leftist filmmakers "to send him their offcuts, because he wanted to make a film about what the left censored." And he says much stuff was indeed sent to Marker, and that though the film didn't pan out that way some ofn the material in 'Grin' came from that.

Then he says "Again I did the English version [of <<Le Fond de l'air est rouge>>], a two-and-a-half hour film that Channel 4 showed."

He says Simone Signoret did a speech in the original but that for some reason they brought in an Anglo to do it instead, in English, rather than subtitle it?!?! (Redgrave?) Weird.

That one guy that quit, Saturday, 31 March 2007 07:36 (nineteen years ago)

Interesting. I wonder if his name shows up in that Catherine Lupton book I haven't finished.

Eric H., Saturday, 31 March 2007 16:16 (nineteen years ago)

To clarify, I didn't mean for that to sound all "who the hell is this guy," but rather wanted to know more about Marker's alternate versions (which I wasn't aware of him farming out) and thought it was strange that the literature on Marker that I've read doesn't usually say all that much about collaborators.

Then again, I haven't read all that much of the literature on Marker.

Eric H., Saturday, 31 March 2007 16:20 (nineteen years ago)

new criterion edition of La Jetee/Sans Soleil out in June.

WHOOOOOOOOOOOAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAaaaa

poortheatre, Sunday, 1 April 2007 02:37 (nineteen years ago)

yeah that's good news

admrl, Sunday, 1 April 2007 18:55 (nineteen years ago)

see the criterion thread but it isn't a big advance on the pre-existing dvd :(

That one guy that quit, Sunday, 1 April 2007 19:18 (nineteen years ago)

http://www.youtube.com/profile_videos?user=ZeroCrowell

A few Marker films posted piecemeal. Get 'em while they're still there.

Eric H., Thursday, 12 April 2007 20:23 (nineteen years ago)

thanks Eric.

Steve Shasta, Thursday, 12 April 2007 22:03 (nineteen years ago)

Eric, you are the greatest! I just wish statues also die had english subtitles like Level 5 does.

t0dd swiss, Friday, 13 April 2007 14:03 (nineteen years ago)

six months pass...

almost missed this, closes this weekend. now, could be extended to the 10th.

http://www.peterblumgallery.com/soho.html

sanskrit, Thursday, 1 November 2007 18:20 (eighteen years ago)

http://www.peterblumgallery.com/images/aliocha_orly.jpg

sanskrit, Thursday, 1 November 2007 18:20 (eighteen years ago)

eleven months pass...

http://filmjourney.weblogger.com/2008/10/22/cats-go-barack/

Dr Morbius, Thursday, 23 October 2008 18:44 (seventeen years ago)

six months pass...

'la joli mai' at NFT today and tomorrow

xyzzzz__, Saturday, 16 May 2009 10:37 (sixteen years ago)

a fav

conrad, Saturday, 16 May 2009 12:09 (sixteen years ago)

six months pass...

must read for fans of marker and/or vertigo:

http://www.chrismarker.org/a-free-replay-notes-on-vertigo/

quiet and secretively we will always be together (Steve Shasta), Friday, 11 December 2009 21:55 (sixteen years ago)

five months pass...

I think we're still catching up with things Marker was thinking about decades ago.

this rings true but tbh felt sorta overwhelmed by sans soliel to the point of not really feeling/thinking anything at all

has mia ever been so far as to go even do what more like? (Lamp), Tuesday, 8 June 2010 05:18 (fifteen years ago)

Only feels like a 'catch up' because his work isn't v available.

Sans Soleil is nowhere near as good la joli mai.

xyzzzz__, Tuesday, 8 June 2010 09:29 (fifteen years ago)

one month passes...

not really impressed by 'grin w/o a cat'

seems really credulous politically

or that's what i thought, watching it, and then towards the end it makes allende look like a complete dick... but my impression was that he was meant to be one of the heroes?

wonder what was in the four-hour cut that got left out

unchill english bro (history mayne), Wednesday, 4 August 2010 22:14 (fifteen years ago)

I've seen the four hour cut, I thought it was great

invahid opinion (admrl), Wednesday, 4 August 2010 22:15 (fifteen years ago)

i had no idea this guy had made so many films. La jetee and sans soleil are totally major imb but i've never seen anything else and i get the feeling u cant just buy them on amazon.

plax (ico), Wednesday, 4 August 2010 22:20 (fifteen years ago)

some of it was impressive, but a lot of it was very boring and humbug-packed speeches.

marker's cutesy cat thing rubs up all weird with his softness towards dictators: cats, he says, never respect power. which is great because power is always bad -- except when it isn't. not sure what the appeal of a lot of it is unless you specialize in the history of the french far left: all of the hatred for the union of the left is, im sure, fine (and a lot more directly put than his pretty mild critique of euro-maoism), but he's way more specific about all that than, say, the nature of the democratic socialist project the film is allegedly devoted to. that is a sort of shadowy ideal, and the allende-makes-a-dick-of-himself moment is directly related to it. he's whinging that -- shocker -- workers don't turn up to meetings on the weekend to discuss factory policy. he's all like 'it's your factory' and they're all like 'w/e'.

xpost

he's kind of suppressed his pre-jetee/joli mai stuff. some of it gets shown sometimes, but not much. i'd love to see 'description of a struggle', which *does* get shown a bit.

unchill english bro (history mayne), Wednesday, 4 August 2010 22:26 (fifteen years ago)

I think you can get this and The Last Bolshevik and maybe Case Of The Grinning Cat

xp

invahid opinion (admrl), Wednesday, 4 August 2010 22:27 (fifteen years ago)

erm you can buy a three hour version of Grin... on amazon, but if its originally 4 hours then I'd assume any argument would be damaged by the shortening? xxp

xyzzzz__, Wednesday, 4 August 2010 22:30 (fifteen years ago)

it's just as possible that the argument in the 1977 version was even worse!

it doesn't exactly have an argument, just kind of an idea that there was a non-aligned democratic-socialist left in the 1960s, particularly in czechoslovakia and chile, that failed because the US and USSR wanted it to fail.

it's not a fully coherent argument coz castro, not exactly non-aligned, seems to be pretty much a hero throughout -- not entirely, but pretty much.

unchill english bro (history mayne), Wednesday, 4 August 2010 22:35 (fifteen years ago)

well, ok, whatever the idea, it might be more fully fleshed out, which might make it more hateable - who knows, maybe that's why all that is easily available on dvd is Sans Soleil and a short film.

xyzzzz__, Wednesday, 4 August 2010 22:40 (fifteen years ago)

it's not hateable exactly, it's just that CM has a reputation as a tip-top intellectual film essayist and this is a let-down. i guess i would rather see the original warts-and-all 1977 one, coz this one ends *really* abruptly with the collapse of the USSR. some of it is dazzling, but not enough! a lot of it is just speeches. the early travelogues don't do that.

unchill english bro (history mayne), Wednesday, 4 August 2010 22:48 (fifteen years ago)

five months pass...

i was watching that "letter to jane" thing last night and i was like "u know i really like film essays maybe" and i was thinking about this guy and i still havent seen anything beyond la jetee and sans soleil but i dled loin du vietnam and im gonna watch it tonight but then i was like o hey what other things should i maybe see (i dont even know if this vietnam thing is gonna be any good) also like agnes varda she doesnt have a thread

plax (ico), Saturday, 22 January 2011 00:39 (fifteen years ago)

harun farocki is ya boy

rufus is a tity boi (donna rouge), Saturday, 22 January 2011 00:46 (fifteen years ago)

if you can find jean-pierre gorin's southern CA trilogy anywhere, watch those, they are great

rufus is a tity boi (donna rouge), Saturday, 22 January 2011 00:49 (fifteen years ago)

orson welles' 'f for fake' (art forgeries!)

rufus is a tity boi (donna rouge), Saturday, 22 January 2011 00:50 (fifteen years ago)

haha i really like a lot of these too i guess

rufus is a tity boi (donna rouge), Saturday, 22 January 2011 00:51 (fifteen years ago)

oh ok thats the guy godard is talking to in letter to jane?

plax (ico), Saturday, 22 January 2011 00:52 (fifteen years ago)

yeah. they were both part of dziga vertov group (of whom i've seen one film; it was, uh, 'difficult')

rufus is a tity boi (donna rouge), Saturday, 22 January 2011 00:56 (fifteen years ago)

cool, i can never think of anything to watch when i wanna get a movie

plax (ico), Saturday, 22 January 2011 01:00 (fifteen years ago)

the gorin trilogy isn't on dvd in the states i think, dunno about anywhere else

but yeah, FAROCKI: if you like the marker vietnam film, check out HF's short 'inextinguishable fire' about american chemical companies and napalm manufacture in vietnam (then check out the paper i wrote about it as an undergrad, or, yknow, don't)

rufus is a tity boi (donna rouge), Saturday, 22 January 2011 01:04 (fifteen years ago)

Donna OTM. That Gorin trilogy is amazing. There were supposedly Criterion editions in the works, but I guess JPG had some sort of falling out with them. Janus did restore them, though, so I imagine they'll become available in some form. Farocki is also great. Inextinguishable Fire is the real canonical one. I like Workers Leaving the Factory and Images of the World and the Inscription of War better.

I've never regretted seeing a Marker film, but there are definitely ups and downs. I'd most strongly recommend Grin Without a Cat and Le joli mai on top of the ones you've seen.

"Film essay" is an increasingly capacious label, and people get pretty defensive about the parameters (you should track down Philip Lopate's (written) essay "In Search of the Centaur") . There are a million of these things now. Without thinking too long about it or worrying too much about definitions, I'd also suggest Patrick Keiller's Robinson trilogy, Jon Jost's early films, Thom Andersen's Los Angeles Plays Itself (which you can find on Youtube), Trinh T. Minh-ha's Reassemblage (which I believe is also on Youtube), anything by Morgan Fisher, anything by Bill Brown, Histoire(s) du cinema, Adam Curtis' tv work (start with The Trap maybe?). I'm forgetting tons of great stuff, but this is probably already more than you were looking for.

x-ps

C0L1N B..., Saturday, 22 January 2011 01:10 (fifteen years ago)

Isn't Letter to Jane a Vertov Group film?

C0L1N B..., Saturday, 22 January 2011 01:11 (fifteen years ago)

i think sans soleil is one of like three movies where ive gone back and watched the bits i fell asleep through

plax (ico), Saturday, 22 January 2011 01:12 (fifteen years ago)

i think it is, technically xp to c0l1n

shit yeah, 'los angeles plays itself' is fantastic (i watched it in chopped-up segments on youtube, which suited me fine given its length)

rufus is a tity boi (donna rouge), Saturday, 22 January 2011 01:15 (fifteen years ago)

nine months pass...

Really liked Le Mystère Koumiko (1965) (on youtube) - the girl he interviews/edits/lets take over is 'mixed up' and, similarly, CM adopts that as a strategy on Japan. Could've been really embarrassing but its actually fab.

The BFI shop have that three hour cut of Grin Without a Cat NRQ talks about, or should I really try to torrent(?) the four cut (when I get into torrents) (assuming someone has that)

xyzzzz__, Tuesday, 1 November 2011 22:06 (fourteen years ago)

From the description Grin... and Carlos would be the most exciting double bill, but also the most deadly for your circulation - maybe one to watch over a flight to Australia.

xyzzzz__, Tuesday, 1 November 2011 22:15 (fourteen years ago)

A/K is a curiously flat (not as a criticism) portrayal of a nice Japanese man who happened to have made a brilliant set of films. Surprising, but only watched aout half of it.

xyzzzz__, Friday, 4 November 2011 19:48 (fourteen years ago)

i don't agree with NRQ re marker's attitude to castro at all: he doesn't denounce him openly (he doesn't denounce anyone really) but he really isn't treated as the hero of the second half, anything but

mark s, Friday, 4 November 2011 20:04 (fourteen years ago)

That Gorin trilogy is amazing. There were supposedly Criterion editions in the works, but I guess JPG had some sort of falling out with them. Janus did restore them, though, so I imagine they'll become available in some form.

eclipse set coming out in january btw

vitameatawalloginavegamin (donna rouge), Friday, 4 November 2011 22:41 (fourteen years ago)

three months pass...

Watched Grin.. over Xmas and its a remarkable montage. Since then I've seen The Last Bolshevik, L'Ambassade (his other fictional film, which is wonderful although no La Jetee), If I had 4 Camels (in the same format as La Jetee but just the most exciting travelogue, as if someone showed slides from their world tour but its so well scripted, soundtracked and narrated -- like all his stuff, pretty much)

And I agree that Grin... doesn't make Castro a hero at all, but he doesn't demonise him either...although he jently mocks him (when he talks about how he taps the microphone when making speeches). So the 'portrait' makes his turns.

Allende 'made to look like a dick' also sounds wrong.

There is a HUGE universe to this stuff: Far From Vietnam, The Battle For Chile, Ivens' A Valparaiso, Statues Also Die. All great pieces of filmmaking he had a hand in producing or assisting, and which I've been v lucky to see in the last few months.

Has anyone here read his novel?

xyzzzz__, Saturday, 18 February 2012 13:58 (fourteen years ago)

one month passes...

Some stuff to chase here -- fairly gd piece in terms of info, although uncritical (how does the analysis in Hour of the Furnaces hold up?). I don't know if neglecting the 2nd part is exatly a wise move -- it doesn't support Peron wholeheartedly, it does look at his time in office as a halfway-house, an unfulfilled revolution. It does apply some of their analysis given in the 1st to comment on the situation in Argentina in the 2nd part. The film ends in interviews w/activists who were imprisoned and tortured, some harrowing stuff. Overall its quite a package.

http://www.bfi.org.uk/sightandsound/feature/49831

The film’s renewal of the economic-political treatise as cinematic form can be traced in many subsequent films whose activism operates through similarly diverse experimental energies: Godard’s Le Rapport Darty (1989), Raoul Peck’s Profit & Nothing But! Or Impolite Thoughts on the Class Struggle (2001), Erik Gandini’s Surplus: Terrorized Into Being Consumers (2003), Alexander Kluge’s Notes from Ideological Antiquity: Marx-Eisenstein-Capital (2008), Lech Kowalski’s The End of the World Begins With One Lie (2010) or John Gianvito’s Vapor Trail (Clark) (2010).

Has anyone seen much from this batch?

Quite a lot to unpack in the trade-off between style and activism, whether one can exist w/the other or not. Cash is needed, how is this funded and by whom? Interesting that Marker is only mentioned as collaborator and Grin... isn't mentioned...then there are narrative films of the 2nd cinema that work toward the struggle, surely? I know what the author means as not quite enough, but again, there is a hole there.

xyzzzz__, Friday, 23 March 2012 20:29 (fourteen years ago)

four months pass...

RIP

Turangalila, Monday, 30 July 2012 10:29 (thirteen years ago)

RIP indeed. That link includes a video of the full version of La Jetée.

Arvo Pärt Chimp (Neil S), Monday, 30 July 2012 10:31 (thirteen years ago)

Rest In Peace.

EZ Snappin, Monday, 30 July 2012 13:30 (thirteen years ago)

odd that just yesterday I reserved The Last Bolshevik at the library.

Pangborn to be Wilde (Dr Morbius), Monday, 30 July 2012 13:51 (thirteen years ago)

My rep for repping De Palma aside, Chris Marker is/was my very favorite director. RIP

Eric H., Monday, 30 July 2012 14:00 (thirteen years ago)

oh shit.

RIP.

woof, Monday, 30 July 2012 14:03 (thirteen years ago)

reap

am0n, Monday, 30 July 2012 14:35 (thirteen years ago)

:(

funny-skrillex-bee_132455836669.gif (s1ocki), Monday, 30 July 2012 15:13 (thirteen years ago)

RIP. Sans Soleil is a movie I haven't watched in several years but I'm thinking about it all the time.

tylerw, Monday, 30 July 2012 15:29 (thirteen years ago)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KalkgX5Igwo

funny-skrillex-bee_132455836669.gif (s1ocki), Monday, 30 July 2012 15:30 (thirteen years ago)

I showed that video to a big time cat person and their response was "I want my 3 minutes back." I don't think I've ever come closer to crying at someone's wildly divergent take on a movie.

Eric H., Monday, 30 July 2012 15:31 (thirteen years ago)

Last time I looked, there was a Marker-style cat painted on a brick facade near my old job on West 26th St; wish I had pointed it out to you, Eric.

Pangborn to be Wilde (Dr Morbius), Monday, 30 July 2012 15:34 (thirteen years ago)

you should have said i want our years of friendship back xp

funny-skrillex-bee_132455836669.gif (s1ocki), Monday, 30 July 2012 15:34 (thirteen years ago)

Instead, I tied her down and forced her to watch all 3 hours of A Grin Without a Cat.

Eric H., Monday, 30 July 2012 15:36 (thirteen years ago)

All the while pointing out with every passing minute how awesome the movie is.

Eric H., Monday, 30 July 2012 15:37 (thirteen years ago)

Ehrenstein parses and supplements CM's Wiki entry:

http://fablog.ehrensteinland.com/2012/07/30/christian-francois-bouche-villeneuve-aka-chris-marker/

Pangborn to be Wilde (Dr Morbius), Monday, 30 July 2012 16:02 (thirteen years ago)

RIP. I've tried to hack Sans Soleil a couple of times but it always puts me to sleep; I ought to rectify that sometime soon.

Simon H., Monday, 30 July 2012 17:34 (thirteen years ago)

don't hack it, watch it

joaquin haus-partizan (s1ocki), Monday, 30 July 2012 17:34 (thirteen years ago)

usual bunch of Keyframe links (I wd esp point toward excerpt of Marker's piece on Vertigo that Glenn Kenny has):

http://www.fandor.com/blog/daily-chris-marker-1921-2012/

Pangborn to be Wilde (Dr Morbius), Monday, 30 July 2012 17:35 (thirteen years ago)

yes that was great

joaquin haus-partizan (s1ocki), Monday, 30 July 2012 17:35 (thirteen years ago)

http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m7y98wx2H11rw6lx6o1_500.gif

joaquin haus-partizan (s1ocki), Monday, 30 July 2012 17:37 (thirteen years ago)

oh, and the former Steve Shasta linked the Vertigo essay way above.

Pangborn to be Wilde (Dr Morbius), Monday, 30 July 2012 17:46 (thirteen years ago)

that vertigo essay's incredible.

(The Other) J.D. (J.D.), Monday, 30 July 2012 19:14 (thirteen years ago)

RIP, Cat-man.

Josh in Chicago, Monday, 30 July 2012 20:46 (thirteen years ago)

RIP. Sans Soleil is such a beautiful movie

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2d4_YKpMQLc

wolves lacan, Monday, 30 July 2012 22:32 (thirteen years ago)

Brody, with a link to a 2003 interview that needs to be translated.

http://www.newyorker.com/online/blogs/movies/2012/07/in-memoriam-chris-marker.html

Pangborn to be Wilde (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 31 July 2012 00:43 (thirteen years ago)

also, Film Comment has put a host of Marker material online:

http://www.filmcomment.com/issue/may-june-2003

http://www.filmcomment.com/issue/july-august-2003

Pangborn to be Wilde (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 31 July 2012 00:49 (thirteen years ago)

Very sad to hear about this.

I'm Marker's senior by a dozen or so years. When he was a young journalist on Esprit magazine Chris wrote to me expressing admiration for the cat mosaics I was making at the time, and asking for advice on how to get established as a cat mosaicist himself. My response was that he should pose as a Maoist, then slowly work more and more cats and mosaics into his work.

I also suggested that Christian should change his name and make up some juicy lies about his past in order to make himself sound more mysterious, while at the same time refusing to confirm or deny anything. For instance, Chris was born in Neuilly-sur-Seine, which is a pretty boring and bourgeois suburb of Paris. This would never do for a Maoist-mosaicist, so I told him to spread the rumour that he came from Ulan-Bator in Mongolia. This he did, although not quite as consistently as I would have liked. He also claimed to have been a NASA parachutist, to have saved Fidel Castro's life on three occasions, to come from the future, and to suffer from a rare medical condition for which the only treatment was to drink a litre of boiling hot flamingo blood each week.

Only last week I emailed Chris suggesting he tell people he was suffering from a case of Morgellons picked up from Joni Mitchell, and had coloured threads in the shape of cats' whiskers growing on his upper lip. Unfortunately, Chris stopped responding to any of my communications in 1962. I think the success of La Jetée went to his head a bit, to be honest.

Oh well, see you back in the future, Chris!

Grampsy, Tuesday, 31 July 2012 02:36 (thirteen years ago)

http://nelliek*ll*an.tumblr.com/post/28354641278/chris-markers-favorite-photo-from-may-68-je

joaquin haus-partizan (s1ocki), Tuesday, 31 July 2012 05:16 (thirteen years ago)

Brody, with a link to a 2003 interview that needs to be translated.

i could give this a shot if you want

joaquin haus-partizan (s1ocki), Tuesday, 31 July 2012 05:24 (thirteen years ago)

i got beaten to it:

http://www.filmcomment.com/article/marker-direct-an-interview-with-chris-marker

joaquin haus-partizan (s1ocki), Tuesday, 31 July 2012 05:30 (thirteen years ago)

thx, I was wondering if it was in the FC package

Pangborn to be Wilde (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 31 July 2012 07:49 (thirteen years ago)

I'm Marker's senior by a dozen or so years.

Hang on.... what?

TracerHandVEVO (Tracer Hand), Tuesday, 31 July 2012 09:17 (thirteen years ago)

Either that's a piece of absurdism, or penned by Manoel de Oliveira.

Pangborn to be Wilde (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 31 July 2012 11:27 (thirteen years ago)

lol guys

joaquin haus-partizan (s1ocki), Tuesday, 31 July 2012 12:50 (thirteen years ago)

:-(

xyzzzz__, Wednesday, 1 August 2012 22:13 (thirteen years ago)

I've just watched first episode of The Owl's Legacy. holy shit it really is just some interesting and/or super-knowledgeable people (Vernant - Castoriadis - Xenakis why not) talking about the legacy of ancient Greece for 6.5 hours, this is the best thing ever, thank you Chris Marker.

woof, Wednesday, 15 August 2012 22:03 (thirteen years ago)

whoa

Author ~ Coach ~ Goddess (s1ocki), Wednesday, 15 August 2012 22:43 (thirteen years ago)

Saw Sans Soleil and La Jetee tonight. (I saw what was probably the same double-bill 10 or 15 years ago.) They showed them in that order, with a short break between.

I had a real tough time with Sans Soleil. The problem for me is that I need time to process the non-stop stream of aphorisms, fragments, riddles, and the rest that make up the narration. I had that problem to a degree with A Grin Without a Cat, but at least there I was always interested in what was happening on-screen; my attention never flagged. I just didn't find the visuals in Sans Soleil all that compelling. La Jetee was great; I'm glad it found a place on the Sight and Sound list. I wonder if showing them out of chronological order helped a bit--truthfully, it was a major relief not to have to read and really be able to appreciate the beauty of the images.

clemenza, Wednesday, 22 August 2012 02:20 (thirteen years ago)

They showed Sans soleil with the French soundtrack but La Jetee with the English one? Odd.

Eric H., Wednesday, 22 August 2012 02:36 (thirteen years ago)

The English narration was so good for La Jetee (in terms of catching the right tone), it was almost confusing--it just didn't seem like something that was slapped on in place of the original French. I know I'm short-changing Sans Soleil, but that's what happens with me when I have to divide my attention with dense subtitles. It'd be nice to see it with an English audio track as good as La Jetee's.

clemenza, Wednesday, 22 August 2012 02:43 (thirteen years ago)

Yeah, I don't think Sans soleil suffers from the alternate English narration at all (it's on the DVD). I'd imagine it feels a whole lot less dense that way.

Eric H., Wednesday, 22 August 2012 02:52 (thirteen years ago)

(I say that because it's the only way I've seen it, in English.)

Eric H., Wednesday, 22 August 2012 02:52 (thirteen years ago)

four weeks pass...

Marker 6-pack in new Senses of Cinema:

http://sensesofcinema.com/issue/64/chris-marker-64/

kizz my hairy irish azz (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 20 September 2012 20:37 (thirteen years ago)

I watched the first half of Sans Soleil last night. It's way more up my alley than La Jetee was.

pun lovin criminal (polyphonic), Thursday, 20 September 2012 21:12 (thirteen years ago)

Man, Sans Soleil.

I could watch this forever.

pun lovin criminal (polyphonic), Thursday, 27 September 2012 06:43 (thirteen years ago)

ha i felt like i WAS watching it forever the first time but maybe i was in a bad place. I need to try again because i know it's better than i think it is.

jed_, Thursday, 27 September 2012 08:48 (thirteen years ago)

Strange, I was really taken with it the first time then really bored the second.

ledge, Thursday, 27 September 2012 08:59 (thirteen years ago)

I had a couple of false starts & decided to 'come back to it in a bit' (ie forget it exists for 18 months), but loved it when my mood and its tone finally came together.

woof, Thursday, 27 September 2012 09:19 (thirteen years ago)

three months pass...

Old-timey ilxor on Grin Without a cat

xyzzzz__, Friday, 4 January 2013 17:21 (thirteen years ago)

one month passes...

i think we agreed this is the agnes varda thread; seventeen of her films streaming for free, here, inc. cool stuff like daguerréotypes, http://dafilms.com/event/107-retrospective-agnes-varda/

schlump, Wednesday, 6 February 2013 03:26 (thirteen years ago)

I watched 'The Sixth Side of the Pentagon' and 'The Embassy' yesterday - both very good. Lots of the 'Sixth Side' footage pops up in 'Grin Without a Cat', though. Looking forward to watching the Varda stuff too.

the so-called socialista (dowd), Wednesday, 6 February 2013 09:13 (thirteen years ago)

Good work schlump - will look at a couple of those films over the w/e.

xyzzzz__, Wednesday, 6 February 2013 19:46 (thirteen years ago)

So far:

RÉPONSE DE FEMMES (Orig.) / 1975 / France / 8 min
ELSA LA ROSE (Orig.) / 1965 / France / 20 min
LES DITES CARIATIDES (Orig.) / 1984 / France / 13 min

Elsa is p/fascinating, how a woman not only stands besides the artist but is crucial in seemingly bringing it to existence. Elsa herself does not acknowledge her role in this, its either sad or just something there, to be contemplated and never to be answered for definite, an unwilling agent, which goes against the women of Reponse de Femmes, who hate what men make of them and want to be left alone (if that's what it takes).

Another thing is for ear and text and architecture - she is so on.

The LA years:

MUR MURS (Orig.) / 81 / France / 80 min
DOCUMENTEUR (Orig.) / 1981 / France / 63 min
UNCLE YANCO (Orig.) / 1967 / France / 22 min
w/Black Panthers which I'd seen before, ads to an an amazing programme of works and portraits of peoples and landscapes of LA: love letters to Bohemia on one hand, the other side of escape from another life on another, esp if you are a single mother or black and live in a tough neighbourhood, and how you can use art to deal with the pain. Because ultimately there is always pain and life is hard. Mur Murs is incredible all by itself: a plot of how a public art might work, but how it is still grubby art -- made by artists still in service of the money men (and govt bodies) who fund it -- but allows for a completely different interaction w/people and the environment. And at the end, the way it ends as rubbish, as decay...well that is a price that seems well worth paying.

She is so good with people, so witty and so interesting and interested, her antennae is truly wide and picks up one everything, but its not frightening at all. Its about letting yourself be opened up: Varda is an alert, model citizen.

xyzzzz__, Saturday, 9 February 2013 22:44 (thirteen years ago)

three months pass...

In the middle of a long-weekend program at the Cinematheque: Remembrance of Things to Come/La Jetée/The Sixth Side of the Pentagon on Friday, A Grin Without a Cat last night, The Case of the Grinning Cat/One Day in the Life of Andrei Arsenevich tonight. (I skipped Sans Soleil this time.) Thanks to English narration, I had an easier time with A Grin Without a Cat than when I watched it at home last year. Such a dense sprawl, though...it pushes my powers of concentration to the limit, and I still come up a little short when he leaves the USA. (By which I mean I just don't have enough background knowledge about Prague and Paris and the rest to connect the dots; I still find the images and dissonances compelling.) Liked seeing Ed Sanders (part of the footage taken from the Pentagon film).

clemenza, Sunday, 19 May 2013 14:06 (twelve years ago)

I was there last night! Great stuff.

ed.b, Sunday, 19 May 2013 15:59 (twelve years ago)

So was I! I was hoping for more of Marker's comnmentary on the images that we get in the early sequence, but enjoyed it nonetheless.

Simon H., Sunday, 19 May 2013 17:05 (twelve years ago)

By which I mean, I was hoping for more discussion of the images themselves in general.

Simon H., Sunday, 19 May 2013 17:06 (twelve years ago)

One of the most interesting things about Grin for me--and one of the reasons I have a hard time pinpointing Marker's view of these events a decade after the fact (somewhat rueful but not bitter?)--is that you get his words read by a variety of other people.

Did you guys stop by the photo exhibit on the fourth floor?

clemenza, Sunday, 19 May 2013 17:23 (twelve years ago)

i love grin. i saw the whole thing with my mom years ago. there's some pretty accurate/brutal stuff leveled at french maoists, and a whole soliloquoy (sp?) delivered to (unnamed) JLG.

clemenza i think marker is ambivalent and that def. comes through.

flesh, the devil, and a wolf (wolf) (amateurist), Monday, 20 May 2013 02:00 (twelve years ago)

The Godard soliloquy must have went right past me.

Ambivalent is a good description. That's there in The Case of the Grinning Cat, too, which I saw last night. I didn't much care for that one--the events in A Grin Without a Cat are so momentous that the ambivalence feels tragic, but in the second film, it wanders off into whimsy. I did like how clear-eyed he is about hyperbole, though; when the one French conservative gets compared to a Nazi by the left, Marker responds with the most withering "Really?" imaginable.

clemenza, Tuesday, 21 May 2013 03:16 (twelve years ago)

he was in the resistance; he should know right

flesh, the devil, and a wolf (wolf) (amateurist), Tuesday, 21 May 2013 03:22 (twelve years ago)

ten months pass...

Exciting!

xyzzzz__, Wednesday, 16 April 2014 20:13 (twelve years ago)

Healthy film programme (seen most of them, no reason not to attend a screening or two) + nice catalogue.

xyzzzz__, Wednesday, 16 April 2014 20:14 (twelve years ago)

the documentary about marker's early (pre-cinema) years should be interesting. like rohmer he lived something like a full life before cinema.

espring (amateurist), Wednesday, 16 April 2014 20:23 (twelve years ago)

Comments by William Gibson and others:
http://www.theguardian.com/film/2014/apr/15/thrilling-prophetic-chris-marker-experimental-films

one way street, Wednesday, 16 April 2014 22:51 (twelve years ago)

yeah I'm gonna go to this although I prob won't make any screenings which :-(((((((( but this should be cool, love this dude

forum enthusiast (wins), Wednesday, 16 April 2014 23:48 (twelve years ago)

damn, have no idea where the whitechapel gallery is but wish i was near there!

socki (s1ocki), Thursday, 17 April 2014 03:22 (twelve years ago)

london. *dreams*

mattresslessness, Thursday, 17 April 2014 03:49 (twelve years ago)

Love Whitechapel. Haven't been in ages, work near it for the next couple of months so great excuse to go more regularly.

xyzzzz__, Friday, 18 April 2014 07:32 (twelve years ago)

three months pass...

Brooklyn retro in August

http://www.bam.org/film/2014/chris-marker

son of a lewd monk (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 22 July 2014 14:34 (eleven years ago)

Region 2 release:

http://chrismarker.org/2014/06/chris-marker-collection-english-released/

sʌxihɔːl (Ward Fowler), Tuesday, 22 July 2014 14:36 (eleven years ago)

Oh, I just bought that - didn't realise it was new. Watched the first disc, which was very good.

Spaceport Leuchars (dowd), Tuesday, 22 July 2014 14:41 (eleven years ago)

I've just watched first episode of The Owl's Legacy. holy shit it really is just some interesting and/or super-knowledgeable people (Vernant - Castoriadis - Xenakis why not) talking about the legacy of ancient Greece for 6.5 hours, this is the best thing ever, thank you Chris Marker.

i have this but without subtitles and my french isn't quiiiiiiite good enough :(

TracerHandVEVO (Tracer Hand), Tuesday, 22 July 2014 14:59 (eleven years ago)

I watched it on dailymotion or something w/ subs iirc – that version seems to be on youtube now

woof, Tuesday, 22 July 2014 15:12 (eleven years ago)

will look, thanks

TracerHandVEVO (Tracer Hand), Tuesday, 22 July 2014 15:15 (eleven years ago)

Saw the Whitechapel exhibit - There were 5-6 rooms when really you only needed 2-3. Marker made bits of video art but it was hard to get a handle on how out there this stuff was for the time.

Attended a couple of screenings: Sunday in Peking looks gorgeous. I have almost all of these in shagged out copies from a few years ago, when Marker was alive and wouldn't authorise release. Its interesting as to why he thought the early stuff wasn't much cop. I mean he is alert: writing great narration (all with blink-and-you-miss subtle criticism), displays a great eye for colour and its depths (the market in Peking). Really was this stuff worse than some of the late works? I did watch one and the soundtrack was crappy electronica, the narrator's voice was off...

A biography of him would be amazing. Give the criticism (as evidenced by the exhibit) is lacking I bet a Coca-Cola it'll be terrible.

Someone should translate his novel tho'.

xyzzzz__, Tuesday, 22 July 2014 15:21 (eleven years ago)

three weeks pass...

his Level Five (1996) opens in NY/LA today

http://www.fandor.com/keyframe/daily-chris-marker-bam

son of a lewd monk (Dr Morbius), Friday, 15 August 2014 16:55 (eleven years ago)

I know a number of Marker stans who can't stand that one. But of course, I'll watch anything he's done, so.

You are exactly why people root for the apes (Eric H.), Friday, 15 August 2014 17:00 (eleven years ago)

i've seen the CM 'biggies,' anything i should target in the Brooklyn retro that you might've seen?

son of a lewd monk (Dr Morbius), Friday, 15 August 2014 17:20 (eleven years ago)

You've probably seen what I've seen ... everything that's been released on DVD + La Joli Mai, basically.

You are exactly why people root for the apes (Eric H.), Friday, 15 August 2014 17:56 (eleven years ago)

Level Five isn't great - and it's not helped by lots of ancient computer graphics. It has some great parts to it, though, and it's certainly not without something to say. There's just something about how fragmented it is that doesn't work.

Spaceport Leuchars (dowd), Friday, 15 August 2014 23:52 (eleven years ago)

Saw digitally restored Letter from Siberia, which is typically light (animation, playful voiceover) but not frivolous. Also a (faded to pink) print of the 20-min Sunday in Peking, prob the most filmic images of '50s Chinese life I've seen.

(some old codger exiting was grumping about "propaganda," not sure which film he meant)

full house for this, tho it was a room of about 150 seats probably.

son of a lewd monk (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 19 August 2014 14:47 (eleven years ago)

They're really lovely films, but very light. I'm not sure how much he associated them with his later work, a bit workmanlike. But charming. I suppose people might wonder about them being propaganda seeing as they don't explicitly condemn either government? But it's not likely they would.

Spaceport Leuchars (dowd), Tuesday, 19 August 2014 15:47 (eleven years ago)

three weeks pass...

Icarus Films will release Level Five on DVD and VOD on October 7.

son of a lewd monk (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 10 September 2014 16:22 (eleven years ago)

Cool

Santiniketan Go Straight To The Ghat (James Redd and the Blecchs), Wednesday, 10 September 2014 16:55 (eleven years ago)

that's one i've never seen! i don't think it ever got much distribution in the states.

i got that UK "chris marker collection" thing and have been making my way through it. his documentary about israel (description d'un combat), which i hadn't seen in 15 years, is so moving. i wish that lanzmann's "porquoi israel" was more readily available, the two films would make a fascinating comparison.

I dunno. (amateurist), Wednesday, 10 September 2014 20:24 (eleven years ago)

might as well add susan sontag's "promised lands" to that list. one thing i like about all three films is their complete absence of glibness. we could use more of that anguished searching now.

I dunno. (amateurist), Wednesday, 10 September 2014 20:25 (eleven years ago)

three months pass...

Level Five isn't great - and it's not helped by lots of ancient computer graphics. It has some great parts to it, though, and it's certainly not without something to say. There's just something about how fragmented it is that doesn't work.

― Spaceport Leuchars (dowd)

OTM. Not a particularly great transfer either.

guess that bundt gettin eaten (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 16 December 2014 23:05 (eleven years ago)

Yeah, the ancient computer graphics combined with VHS bleed kind of make you want to poke your eyes out. I remember there were a couple of interesting ideas (a meditation on footage of a woman jumping to her death?) but nothing that has stuck with me.

Spaceport Leuchars (dowd), Saturday, 27 December 2014 16:11 (eleven years ago)

three months pass...

recent addition to my living room - really happy with the job the framers did on this!

http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e128/ilxalbums/c245a5e2-0a4a-43b8-be38-6492943d72f9.jpg

Acting Crazy (Instrumental) (jed_), Monday, 20 April 2015 22:40 (eleven years ago)

Beautiful.

Eric H., Tuesday, 21 April 2015 03:40 (eleven years ago)

two years pass...

if you type chris marker into amazon prime search, it comes up with three chris marker films plus "dilbert: the complete series"

mark s, Wednesday, 16 August 2017 17:54 (eight years ago)

one year passes...

So incredible, watch while you can - the most suppressed of Chris Marker's films, for years was near impossible to find, perhaps because it's his most personal. Vividly restored, and one of the first verite portraits of Post-war Japan from a Western perspective. https://t.co/Xl1nQnOzhE

— Aaron Stewart-Ahn (@somebadideas) June 21, 2019

shhh / let peaceful like things (wins), Friday, 21 June 2019 21:08 (six years ago)

He’s not hiding behind a big orange cat it that one, is he?

TS The Students vs. The Regents (James Redd and the Blecchs), Friday, 21 June 2019 21:22 (six years ago)

I haven’t seen it! Mainly putting this here to remind myself to watch

shhh / let peaceful like things (wins), Friday, 21 June 2019 21:26 (six years ago)

I was just joking. When Agnès Varda passed recently I saw a few films of hers in which he appears and because he is camera shy she always obscured him in the fashion described.

TS The Students vs. The Regents (James Redd and the Blecchs), Friday, 21 June 2019 21:43 (six years ago)

Yeah I got that

shhh / let peaceful like things (wins), Friday, 21 June 2019 21:49 (six years ago)

Oh, okay

TS The Students vs. The Regents (James Redd and the Blecchs), Friday, 21 June 2019 22:04 (six years ago)

Thanks for posting. Much, much cleaner than the DVDR copy that I lost a couple moves ago.

Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Saturday, 22 June 2019 02:42 (six years ago)

Thanks for posting!!

xyzzzz__, Saturday, 22 June 2019 11:24 (six years ago)

Seems that French language version just showed up a few weeks ago of La Jetée on Criterion. Hadn’t realized that English language version had equal status.

If I were a POLL I’d be Zinging (James Redd and the Blecchs), Saturday, 22 June 2019 12:28 (six years ago)

Dope!

brimstead, Saturday, 22 June 2019 17:09 (six years ago)

Re: wins post, thx wins

brimstead, Saturday, 22 June 2019 17:10 (six years ago)

Yeah, thanks, wins.

If I were a POLL I’d be Zinging (James Redd and the Blecchs), Saturday, 22 June 2019 18:17 (six years ago)

one year passes...

I can't seem to find any prior post, from myself or otherwise, but I really dug this installation he did I saw at MoMA which was called Silent Movie.

Robert Gotopieces (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 22 November 2020 16:51 (five years ago)

https://www.moma.org/interactives/exhibitions/1995/videospaces/marker.html

http://www.mfj-online.org/journalPages/MFJ29/McElhaneyMarker.html

Robert Gotopieces (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 22 November 2020 16:56 (five years ago)

Haven't reread those links recently. My memory was there was a five high stack of video monitors four around looping black and white footage of a glamorous lady or an old school phonograph, along with mash-up film posters on the nearby walls of things like a Maciste movie directed by René Clair, say.

Robert Gotopieces (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 22 November 2020 17:09 (five years ago)

one month passes...

I... had no idea!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T6U9oKZAaEY

Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Friday, 8 January 2021 17:45 (five years ago)

Wow. Did he do one for The Psychedelic Furs as well? #OneThread.

Next Time Might Be Hammer Time (James Redd and the Blecchs), Friday, 8 January 2021 17:47 (five years ago)

Fantastic.

clemenza, Friday, 8 January 2021 21:41 (five years ago)

six months pass...

100th birthday today

i carry the torch for disco inauthenticity (Eric H.), Friday, 30 July 2021 03:05 (four years ago)

Saw that on Mubi

Two Severins Clash (James Redd and the Blecchs), Friday, 30 July 2021 03:14 (four years ago)

two years pass...

Haven't reread those links recently. My memory was there was a five high stack of video monitors four around looping black and white footage of a glamorous lady or an old school phonograph, along with mash-up film posters on the nearby walls of things like a Maciste movie directed by René Clair, say.

The Maciste movie was apparently a prequel, RAMBO MINUS ONE.

https://static1.squarespace.com/static/55095cc2e4b0b6baebd8203a/t/55659e01e4b086f545c4510a/1432722945129/marker+art+monthly+.pdf

Kizza Me on the Bus (James Redd and the Blecchs), Saturday, 23 September 2023 11:09 (two years ago)

I used to walk by this interesting-looking super high-window office in Soho which turned out to be for the publishing company Seven Stories Press. Soon I found out that a guy I knew worked there so one day he invited me in. On the walls there were some really interesting posters and drawings. On one wall was a bunch of doodles done by Kurt Vonnegut illustrating the seven (?) basical plotlines such as Man Falls in Hole. On another was a poster full of cool-looking /slightly-pulpy paperback covers that didn’t look quite real. I said “that looks like a Chris Marker thing” and he said “it is!”

Kizza Me on the Bus (James Redd and the Blecchs), Saturday, 23 September 2023 11:18 (two years ago)

two years pass...

An almost complete collection of Chris Marker's filmography (1952-2011)

52.57 GB

70 films including 40 shorts and 12 features + his 13-part documentary "The Owl’s Legacy"

Subs: eng, spa, fre and pt-br whenever foundhttps://t.co/pYIklYm6Tp pic.twitter.com/xv9OOlE5pc

— Serkan (@Serpotkine) January 31, 2026

xyzzzz__, Saturday, 31 January 2026 18:10 (two months ago)


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