Wife Swap

That girl was 18! Bloody Hell!

Oh and Pete or someone needs to come along and explain that this was a channel 4 TV show (like he did yesterday with the without prejudice thread)

I did not see much of it. I do not think sex was involved.

i was going to start a thread on this - amazing tv.

I was kind of worried about the kids - the older fat kid was clearly damaged because of her parents lack of respect for each other and their kids. The swearing was awful. I ended up having a certain amount of regard for the fat guy - the problem is that he now knows that life could be so much better.

Agreed on the arseness of the black guy - "can we talk? can we talk?" - the problem with the show was that he came off very lightly because he was up against something out of Viz magazine.

(Oh, and yeah: GOPPING? GAWPING? I knew I wasn't up to date with youth slang, but ???????)

What did the 18-year old girl do? Did she have a job? I'm assuming she wasn't still at school. Because she acted like she was AT LEAST four years younger and you got the feeling she'd never been encouraged to grow up in the slightest.

The black guy was just a twat, although I thought his girlfriend came out the best of any of them by a mile. There was also some tension between the bloke and his girlfriend's children that never really came to the fore, that I would've been tempted to see more of had I not felt so guilty about watching other people's lives fall apart before my eyes.

My prediction is that the slobs go back to their gopping life together, with fatdad making a play for more power in the home, but failing due to owerwhelming power of fatmum. Elder fatkid will be pregnant soon and have a disgusting fatbaby to continue the dynasty.

I think blackdude will NOT marry blacklady - he'll ultimately shy away from responsibility/stability and will move on to find another 'lady' to cook his goat curry and clean the bog after him.

The other thing about the show was how incapable elder fatkid was of getting any sense of perspective on the situation whatsoever. From the way she was behaving you'd have thought that her dad had chucked her mum out of the street forever and moved his Evil Darky Mistress in to TAKE OVER THEIR LIVES, not that they were in this situation for one or two weeks after which everything would go back to normal. Also, the fact that thousands of people would see her behaving like a nasty little brat on TV appeared not to bother her in the slightest.

And even the black mum was a bit of an arse - could she use a sentence without repeating the word "respect" 5 times? Could she fuck. She is on the verge of a nervous breakdown, mark my words. The only reason she's with that dickhead is because if she had to confront her life and actually respect herself she'd realise how she's thrown it all away.

Isn't that the point of these programmes?

The racism and yes the "boot polish" line was pretty bad. Still find it hard to see how the black couple get on together, I mean does his girlfriend really take that crap that he was coming out with. Perhaps he's not such a dick when he's with her.

the flat was disturbing - all of the fluffy toys??

But Toys stacked like that in the living room....is trashy!

And it was the claustophobia...

he is very anti-factor

I asked for a discount in Safeways last week because the number of cornflakes in the package I bought wasn't prime. They laughed me out of the shop. I can't wait for Morrison's to take over.

I was under the impression, watching it, that it must be a one-off; can't see how they can top this: a stupid [I thought], white overweight, unhealthy [despite what she says], black-not liking [even if the guy did like the wife he got after all] couple with one disgustingly foul-mouthed, rude, ignorant daughter swopping with a black family whose members seemed to be not all the things the others were but with an arrogant, dope-smokin', black string-vest & sunglasses wearin', white-not liking tosser as the sort-of father/head-of-household. both said [I think] that they were hoping not to be swopping with another race and the black guy said he hoped his wouldn't be overweight and disgusting--they got exactly what they didn't want! and the microwave/from-scratch eating just emphasised how opposite they were. I doubt any of the rest will have such a degree of oppositeness and, THUS, interestingness.

the gonks were disturbing. and so were the stuffed toys.

*SLAM*

Ha, look upon my character insight and weep.

WS 2=class

[n.b. this is not just the truth]

It was sad the way Michelle felt the need to turn on Carol at the end (calling her a lazy excuse for a housewife) in order to keep a sense of self-respect.

Interesting that they'd been together for 15 years but married 3 years ago. Had she had enough of him then but the cynical bastard thought "I know what'll shut her up for a while, we'll get married"?

Generally it wasn't as good as the first episode, is it really a good idea that the producers are so intent on making it seem like such a total role reversal and contrasting the wives so utterly. Even in the editing it's done this way and it comes across kind of contrived, moreso this time around, and although this approach secures a certain impact, perhaps if they'd taken a chance and let things flow a bit more it might ultimately have been a more interesting show.

Also on Without Prejudice this week there was this smarmy guy who LOOKED LIKE THE DEVIL. He was on The Weakest Link and he won it; I saw it, and at the end he did say "well of course, I was always going to win, I am a lot smarter than all these people". Unfortunately I only caught the end of WP so didn't see if he was as smarmy on the telly this time, so I'll have to wait for the repeat.

That well known word bakedbean.

Ah Ronan, that explains the smell.

N., i think they're chosen (obv not randomly). the family from last week said they'd been stopped in the supermarket.

Cozen - he was described in the preview as 'professional gambler'. Whether he actually made money out of it or not I don't know.

But this is for another thread, I think...

I'm really intrigued by the use of the word "common" because of this weird quirk.

"Look, more grotty working class wives swearing at posh families that don't allow TV past 8 o clock and that!"

also I wish the programmers wd use other ideas please and stop relying on boring unsubtle polar opposites. think a bit, perhaps.

Like the woman tonight "who's malcolm x?" come on. that's not real.

http://www.kansascity.com/news/nation/story/1047068.html

so was she fat, stupid and ugly?

Wow, what a cunt.

oh come on, he probably hammed it up

There's levels of hamming, though.

I know. Watched a bit of the clip and by god he's a bit of a twat. But honestly after a minute or two I lost interest. WTF was his wife doing channeling energy? She should channel her huge ego down the toilet.

Since being unemployed I've become sort of addicted to WS. It's ok, I've come to terms with it.

The woman on today's episode and her family eat a completely raw food diet including raw meat (and raw rotten meat at that) and up to 12 raw eggs a day. They also brush their teeth with a mixture of butter and clay and don't clean there house - ever. Oh my God.

"their" house not "there" obv

they also brush their teeth with a mixture of butter and clay

looooool

Yeah and her teeth are nasty too. Big surprise.

OK, now they're eating "high meat" which is cut up beef they've left to rot in a jar for 3 months.

Oh sorry, I stand corrected. It's four moths old raw meat.

months, ugh

Raw moth meat is pretty gross too.

Ms. BB you have blown my mind.

i wanna see a reality show on how they find these fucking people

Moth meat is made of a combo of tootsie rolls & gummi bears, according to the Silence of the Lambs bonus features.

x-post Yes!! Wife Swap tryouts show would be A++.

It's on Lifetime from 3-6 every weekday people.

This show is always on in the laundromat on Friday nights when I'm doing laundry (I know, My Glamorous Friday Nights) and it makes me crazy with rage, but I kind of want to see this family that eats rotten meat and brushes their teeth with butter.

Don't tell me - they swapped the Butter Wife with a spray-tan, fake boob, Gucci housewife from LA or something right? Or somebody with a need for near OCD-levels of cleanliness in her life? Or a vegan?!?!

"Your children aren't your friends!"
"Your children aren't robots!"
"Your wife is a slave!"
"Your wife has enslaved you!"

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Oh it makes me crazy with rage too but I CAN'T STOP WATCHING IT!

DING DING DING! Other wife = OCD-levels of cleanliness lady.

The one dude just whipped out the jar of high meat again and I swear that shit is green.

Next up - Mom who is bff with her daughter and throws "princess parties" for a living swaps with a woman who runs a business bottling deer piss out of her basement.

Mom and daughter sleep together in the "princess bed" while the step-dad sleeps in the daughter's room.

Wait, you weren't making that up?

These are all Springer style "actors", right?

No, I'm not making it up. It's on right now.

I'm sure it's heavily scripted and/or edited to come off as dramatic as possible I think they're actually real people which makes it so very frightening.

"If you change your mind I've got plenty of high meat for ya"

Complete madness

Yes!!! I wish the whole episode were available on youtube. It was really . . . something.

OMG THANK YOU NED.

btw - he's crying because the swapped wife took them out to dinner and they had a cooked hamburger and all got sick. supposedly.

They... they bathe so rarely that they use their bathtub for storage? I... what... oh god.

btw OCD-levels of cleanliness required here.

I don't understand how he can eat that old raw meat - I mean I've eaten old raw meat many times - braseola, parma, serrano, etc - but he doesn't seem to be curing it or anything - it's just moldy meat. Is it possible to build up a resistance or something?

http://en.allexperts.com/q/Special-Diets-768/High-Meat.htm

fucking revolting

Looking online someone says they eat raw chicken meat which is surely just asking for trouble? I'm grossed out by this but also intrigued in how they get away with not being ill all the time.

I can't even imagine what their house smells like. I'm going to go home and huff Pine Sol out of a trash bag and try to forget I ever heard of "high meat."

Wow, that link is amazing. Jenny don't read the next bit...

Lastly, high-meat will always smell really bad - which is why you're meant to leave it in a sealed vacuum-jar in a fridge rather than open to the air. I always air the meat once a day, for a minute or so, to speed things up, and then I eat it after two to four weeks(on a lowish setting in the fridge). At this stage, it becomes very slimy on the surface of the meat,and has the best effect. After c. 4 weeks or more, it becomes pretty much a liquid soup, at which point I'm unable to swallow the stuff as the smell and taste are just too overpowering.

yes, that zeroes in on the "fucking revolting" part I mentioned

gah I am almost dry-heaving at work just thinking about this shit

why would people do this

yeah, sorry about that - it was too good to miss though.
Still my question - why aren't these folks (esp. Mr RawPalaeoGuy there) ill?

I've seen my fair share of fucked up things on the internet, but I think that link is the first to actually raise immediate bile in my throat.

what the hell ughhh

The guy has a (very, very) extensive website.

About RawPalaeoGuy
Expertise
I can answer most questions on Raw Animal Food(RAF) Diets such as the Primal Diet, a 100 percent raw, organic, raw-meat based diet and a number of similiar all-raw or partially raw Paleolithic diets, such as the Instincto, Weston-Price, Neanderthin, Paleo and Stefansson Diets. Can also offer advice on how to resist social pressure to eat cooked foods etc. For further info on Raw-Animal-Food diets, feel free to browse through this website:- http://www.rawpaleodiet.com/

Experience
I have been 7.5 years on a 99%+ raw version of the Palaeolithic Diet and experienced numerous health benefits as a result, being fully recovered from my previous symptoms from my cooked-food days. My own individualised raw, paleolithic diet routine is mostly based on Aajonus Vonderplanitz's Primal Diet(ie 99% raw, usage of "high-meat",no processed supplements, using primarily naturally-reared, organic or wild sources of raw foods) but, for personal reasons, I have also been, to some extent, influenced by ideas from:- Instincto(ie:- taste/instinct,no raw dairy/no raw veggie juice), Weston-Price(eg: preferring grassfed meat to grainfed meat, incorporating a wide variety of raw organ-meats into my diet along with the usual muscle-meats, and Vilhjalmur Stefansson(high-fat diet, reasonably high proportion of (raw) animal food, limiting raw carbohydrates such as fruit/veg/honeycomb etc. to a certain extent). I'm also a firm believer in the feast-and-famine idea (ie Intermittent Fasting) as regards boosting one's energy levels, and giving my body a rest from constant digestion.

Why live with the diseases associated with modern living?

Because the diseases associated with a time before modern medicine were so much more awesome!

http://images.amazon.com/images/P/0312975910.01.LZZZZZZZ.jpg

EAT LIKE A CAVEMAN

unknowable food product chains, lack of faith in institutional authorities, age-old quasi-religious attitudes of being surrounded by corruption, the search for pure and pre-modern existence, hey presto...

"i'm like a vegan, only with rotting meat"

In the lifestyle section of his website, he advocates stress-free living as an important component of the Raw Paleo lifestyle. Free from stress... JUST LIKE OUR CAVEPEOPLE ANCESTORS... not a care or worry... except for starving to death or freezing to death or dying of thirst or heat exposure or being eating by any number of animals or accidentally poisoning oneself or die due to accident injuries or dying in child birth or dying in infancy or dying of diseases associated with prehistoric times or drinking contaminated water. Yessir, stress free, sleeping in the dark, lots of fresh air, water ideally free from pollutants (like hungry alligators).

Gah. I'm too annoyed now to be grossed out anymore.

Oh God I have to catch up but I just read the high meat part and AAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHH! WHY!?

As RS just said, sure eat like the cavemen who probably died around 20 or younger because of (among other things obv) eating shit like that.

“I’m not dealing with a woman, I’m dealing with a Sasquatch, man,” he says. “She’s got man hands.” “You’re a man trapped in a woman’s body,” he taunts during the rule change ceremony. “From now on your name is Sasquatch, that’s it!” He pushes Mishelle to her limit and she rears up on him: “Listen, you fat bastard…!” but Patrick gets up and storms out.

ALL CLASS

oh god this show. the raw meat episode you guys are describing just seems above and beyond.

it's always on when i'm at the gym and i have to resist the urge to switch it into my headphones (thank god i missed the raw meat episode there, i would have vommed all over an arc trainer). the one valuable episode i saw had a practical black lady from florida going to live with these people in ohio who dressed in medieval clothes and played board games and RPGS all day. they looked to "the traditional values of the middle ages" for guidance and she was just like you motherfuckers are joining me in the real world.

most of the other episodes i've caught part of involve one of the families trying to get someone to violate their religious beliefs which is super uncomfortable and not cool.

I often wonder how they advertise for "Wife Swap" auditions.

I also cannot get this out of my mind:

After c. 4 weeks or more, it becomes pretty much a liquid soup

Without coming off all porny and getting a bunch of swingers? That could be tricky.

I keep thinking of the liquid soap meat too. SO GROSS.

"Our Mama wouldn't be doin' this to us!"
"Well, I ain't yo Mama and I'm gonna bust yo ass."

The ass busting woman quoted above is legally changing her name to Diva.

Today's episodes (starts now on lollifetime) are updates on previously featured families. I really hope raw meat freaks make an appearance.

kinda sad it's not a gym day and i will miss this.

:-(

No high meat folks so you're not missing too much . . . yet.

*******IMPORTANT ANNOUNCEMENT*******

Hight meat episode on Lifetime tonight at 10!

o sweet!! today at 5 was the pirate family episode--have you seen that it's totally wtf?

Hell yeah I've seen the pirate episode like 3 times. They were completely crazy but the little girl in the other family was a spoiled little snot. Sometimes this show is almost enough to make me think selective sterilization might not be a bad idea. Wait for the high meat folks though - you're in for a real treat.

wow, i'm honestly surprised that the face to face meeting wasn't a total shitshow. everyone conducted themselves pretty well all things considered. for completely insane ppl the haigwoods at least have some class.

I really want an extremely conservative family and extremely liberal family to do Wife Swap. Maybe the parents of both families should be economists as well. Then I want to see a huge debate.

debate? no, just crying.
most wife swap episodes follow that paradigm, don't they? conservative xians who homeschool vs. far out hippie/biker/queer/nerd couple. can't really feel too bad for any of the involved parties, cuz hell, they signed up for it!

yeah that's their basic paradigm but they've worked some magic with even some pretty mundane families--see the fat guy oppressed by his wife who got swapped with the family that does fitness training for the dallas cowboys cheerleaders.

o_o
i haven't seen wife swap in ages. we don't really get any tv right now.

wow, i'm honestly surprised that the face to face meeting wasn't a total shitshow. everyone conducted themselves pretty well all things considered. for completely insane ppl the haigwoods at least have some class.

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You're right! It was a lot tamer than I'd expected. There was one where the men got into an physical fight.

I'd forgotten so much about this episode namely the fact that meat ppl brushed their teeth with rancid butter. ;_;

loooool yes that was really really weird.

The boy's family, who earlier this year appeared in a reality television show about wife-swapping, had been building a helium-balloon craft that was kept tethered in the backyard of their home.

anyone see this episode??? i saw part of it.

uhhhhhhh . . . .

OF COURSE I SAW IT!!

Not surprising but the Dad was basically a lunatic.

Nothing can top the high meat episode.

So apparently Mick Foley is on Celebrity Wife Swap??!! Man, cable can't come soon enough. :/

honestly i am so happy i no longer see this show at the gym

Mick Foley paired with Antonio Sabato Jr.

Instant classic.

lol I haven't watched it since this thread was last active so, two years. I don't even know if it's still on.

Would prob watch the one with Mick Foley though. I think there was one with Gary Busey too. Would def watch that.

x-post - hahahaha waht? Oh man. For when I do get cable again (Thursday!!) what channel is this sure to be shitshow on?

ABC

I watched it with the good old rabbit ears.

Flavor Flav (episode a few weeks ago) did not disappoint. Gary Busey kind of did. Batshittery was kept to a minimum.