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Have any of you ever been to Washington? I have but we refused to leave the hotel and only stayed overnight, so now that I'll be there two days over the 4th of July weekend, I'm curious to know what I should do - if anyone has any recs on a good bar or something I've just GOT to see if I get bored, could you fill me in? Preferably around the capital district/M Street area.

Ally, Sunday, 24 June 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

I lived in DC for a year. Smash Records in Georgetown is a nice little shop. I recall some hip cafes along P street around DuPont circle as that is an artsy/gay area.

Sadly, I was too young for bars back then, especially after one of 'em confiscated my fake ID.

bnw, Monday, 25 June 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

The Tombs in Georgetown has excellent nachos. Never drank there though, I wasn't old enough at the time. There are also at least two good Italian restaurants in Georgetown, one of them probably the best I've ever eaten at (expensive though). I can't remember what it's called, but if you wander around looking for a sex gadgets shop you'll run across it eventually, they're right near each other.

Georgetown's a bit out of your way, though...

There's a great Mongolian barbeque right on the edge of Chinatown, but that also is out of your way.

I can't actually remember any of the places I've been in DC proper that weren't, like, full of government or history junk.

Josh, Monday, 25 June 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Have spent a few days in DC. Didn't do much other'n tourist stuff like the Museum of Space & Technology (moon rock!) or whatever it's called. I suggest you take the town Ozzy-style: pee on the White House lawn and bite the head off, umm, the Washington Monument.

AP, Monday, 25 June 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Mongolian barbecue! Ooh! This trip's finally looking up.

Otis Wheeler, Monday, 25 June 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

W! A-S-H! I-N-G! T-O-N! BABY! DC!

fred solinger, Monday, 25 June 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Check out State of the Union on U Street (there's a metro stop on the... orange line? Lemme check... Green line!).

http://www.timeout.com/washingtondc/ent/jazz.html#96989

I don't know about these "acid jazz" things described in this review. I do know that it's a place where many DC hip-hop acts perform and they've got two fully-stocked bars. One of my favorite spots in the city to hang out, actually. Georgetown and Adams-Morgan are also good areas of town to hang out in, especially G-Town. (I don't know Adams-Morgan that well.)

I'd put you in touch with my brother, but he's NOTORIOUS for not responding to email very quickly...

Dan Perry, Monday, 25 June 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Besides Ally, who else is going? Is it a lobbying effort on behalf of FT? ;-)

The last time I was in DC I was 12, so I'm absolutely useless in terms of recommendations.

Nicole, Monday, 25 June 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

I would like recommendations for seedy townie bars in rural Virginia, thank you.

Otis Wheeler, Monday, 25 June 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Ally and Ramon are definites to go, Stephanie would like to go but will only go if Otis goes, who hasn't given a 100% straight answer as to whether or not he's going.

I really actually don't NEED to know about stuff in the capital district as we should have transportation. Mongolian barbeque sounds like something we have to go to. Do they dress like actual Mongolians? That's my dream restaurant, up there with my idea that Ethiopian restaurants should serve you food and have waiters dressed like warlords steal it from you as you try to eat it.

These are all some pretty good ideas (as if we're even leaving the stupid hotel, there's a liquor store across the street last time I was there)

Ally, Monday, 25 June 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

The Washington Post's website (washingtonpost.com) is probably a place full of info, I hate to admit. I'm not Republican, I just don't think the Post is a great paper...but all the clubs n crap should have links from their site. A cool theater for films is the Visions Bistro (visionsdc.com). Also the theaters of Georgetown or Dupont Circle...you perhaps see a theme developing in these posts with the infinite repeat of those two names? I daresay there ain't much to do in Virginia at night, unless maybe in Arlington (across the Key Bridge from Georgetown). Tons of restaurants there, a couple cool record shops (Now! Records), and free shows at the Galaxy Hut and Now! (on weekends) of an indie-rock nature. The other rock clubs of note? Black Cat n 9:30.

Chris Cook, Wednesday, 27 June 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

I grew up in DC... places worth checking out are the Black Cat and the Metro Cafe (in the U-and-13th area, which was chic a couple years ago), the Galaxy Hut and Iota in Arlington, Now! Music and Fashion also in Arlington (stupid name for a store but a truly badass selection) and for your late night methamphetamine needs, SoHo coffeehouse in Dupont.

adam, Wednesday, 27 June 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

one year passes...
http://www.norfolkwindmills.com/postcards/washingtondc.jpg

gareth (gareth), Wednesday, 4 June 2003 09:25 (twenty-two years ago)

http://www.norfolkwindmills.com/images/metro.jpg

gareth (gareth), Wednesday, 4 June 2003 09:30 (twenty-two years ago)

Yes. I love the aroma of the DC metro.

NA. (Nick A.), Wednesday, 4 June 2003 11:32 (twenty-two years ago)

i love that the stations are like temples to public transit. if you go in there late at night with some minimalism on yr walkman its totally like being inside of art.

Aaron Grossman (aajjgg), Wednesday, 4 June 2003 12:36 (twenty-two years ago)

Totally. I love the metro. It's so easy.

NA. (Nick A.), Wednesday, 4 June 2003 12:47 (twenty-two years ago)

Metro stations are amazing, especially because of that grotesque scale they're built on. Check the Woodley Park and Wheaton stations' elevators. Good god. However nothing beats the Silver Spring Metro's penguin mural.

adam (adam), Wednesday, 4 June 2003 13:27 (twenty-two years ago)

The Rosslyn metro station has the world's second largest escalator. I hate it, it's terrifying.

Chris H. (chrisherbert), Wednesday, 4 June 2003 16:09 (twenty-two years ago)

G. I just sent you a postcard of Union Station but I sent it to your London address plus I put the wrong postal code.

Mary (Mary), Wednesday, 4 June 2003 16:12 (twenty-two years ago)

:'(

gareth (gareth), Wednesday, 4 June 2003 16:15 (twenty-two years ago)

Maybe it will get to you somehow.

Mary (Mary), Wednesday, 4 June 2003 16:18 (twenty-two years ago)

what code did you put?

gareth (gareth), Wednesday, 4 June 2003 16:21 (twenty-two years ago)

I think it was 3LS NW1 ?!

Mary (Mary), Wednesday, 4 June 2003 17:08 (twenty-two years ago)

that's going to crazy places

Ed (dali), Wednesday, 4 June 2003 17:21 (twenty-two years ago)

hmm, if you put n1 it might get there, nw1 unlikely, there is a square with same name as my road in camden:(

gareth (gareth), Wednesday, 4 June 2003 17:24 (twenty-two years ago)

Uh oh. Don't worry though, I still have the nice retro postcard to send.

Mary (Mary), Wednesday, 4 June 2003 17:25 (twenty-two years ago)

:)

gareth (gareth), Wednesday, 4 June 2003 17:49 (twenty-two years ago)

eight months pass...
Washington DC is better than Boston or Baltimore.

TOMBOT, Monday, 1 March 2004 16:39 (twenty-two years ago)

i have never been to boston or bmore but i'm sure you're right.

g--ff (gcannon), Monday, 1 March 2004 16:46 (twenty-two years ago)

tho the spy museum is a big disappointment

corcoran, yo (gcannon), Monday, 1 March 2004 16:48 (twenty-two years ago)

Baltimore is underrated.

mookieproof (mookieproof), Monday, 1 March 2004 16:50 (twenty-two years ago)

http://www.tax.org/Museum/images/dc.jpg

gabbneb (gabbneb), Monday, 1 March 2004 17:24 (twenty-two years ago)

http://www.cr.nps.gov/habshaer/hals/meridian.jpg

gabbneb (gabbneb), Monday, 1 March 2004 17:27 (twenty-two years ago)

haha wtf I don't even remember starting this thread? I never went to the Mongolian BBQ!!!! WTF.

Allyzay, Monday, 1 March 2004 17:27 (twenty-two years ago)

http://www.visitortips.com/images/gallery/destinations/usa/washington_dc/fullsize/washdc3.jpg

gabbneb (gabbneb), Monday, 1 March 2004 17:29 (twenty-two years ago)

D.C. is high on the list of places we'd both like to move to, if we have much of a say in it. How're the winters? (Winters being the main thing; I can't live anywhere that's genuinely cold again.)

Tep (ktepi), Monday, 1 March 2004 17:31 (twenty-two years ago)

Yeah gabbneb that's all awesome but it's still acting like WINTER in this beeyarch and thanks to you I have now discovered that the rent here is not all that compared to say certain locations in of all places MANHATTAN. GRRRR.

Also post a picture of the Washington Monument at night, that thing looks like a big spooky KKK memorial or something. Secret societies yippee! I don't know near enough special handshakes for this burg.

TOMBOT, Monday, 1 March 2004 17:31 (twenty-two years ago)

Tep: Winters here are awful horrible things. K thx bye.

TOMBOT, Monday, 1 March 2004 17:39 (twenty-two years ago)

As awful as the northeast? That'll take it right off the list.

Tep (ktepi), Monday, 1 March 2004 17:53 (twenty-two years ago)

Not as awful as the northeast, although when it DOES snow, people freak out and it takes a while for the roads to be cleared. The schools and the Federal government shut down the second two goddamn flakes stick.

x-post to Tep

quincie, Monday, 1 March 2004 17:59 (twenty-two years ago)

Both winter and rent in DC (that article was a little misleading) are better than they are in NY. There's a reason that the rent in NY is higher, though.

gabbneb (gabbneb), Monday, 1 March 2004 18:00 (twenty-two years ago)

If you can say "when it does snow" (like it's not an everyday thing, if people are panicking) that sounds more reasonable than Indiana, at least...

Tep (ktepi), Monday, 1 March 2004 18:02 (twenty-two years ago)

Gabbneb, that last sequence of pictures were really beautiful.

Markelby (Mark C), Monday, 1 March 2004 18:04 (twenty-two years ago)

thanks; the pictures aren't as good as the real thing

http://www.photolib.noaa.gov/geodesy/images/big/geod0549.jpg http://faluninfo.net/pictures/FDI_Press/2003-07-22-washington-monument.jpg

gabbneb (gabbneb), Monday, 1 March 2004 18:07 (twenty-two years ago)

I honestly thought it looked cooler with that scaffolding on it. Am I the only one?

TOMBOT, Monday, 1 March 2004 18:18 (twenty-two years ago)

Nope. That's amazing.

Markelby (Mark C), Monday, 1 March 2004 18:20 (twenty-two years ago)

i liked the scaffolding too. i have a love/hate relationship with DC. I think the parts of the city that are the most pleasing to me when I am walking around generally dont have many cool places to go to (certain sections of downtown, especially 16th street midway between u st and the white house), whereas all the bars and clubs and many restaurants are in areas of the city i find quite bland (u st and adams morgan). georgetown is lame on weekends. I am a downtown sort of person. I wont get out of bed for less than six stories.

Aaron Grossman (aajjgg), Monday, 1 March 2004 18:25 (twenty-two years ago)

tell me where I should hang out downtown.

Aaron Grossman (aajjgg), Monday, 1 March 2004 18:26 (twenty-two years ago)

really i should just be honest and say that i need a list of cafes and bars that are not in adams morgan or u street that will make me think i am in europe.

Aaron Grossman (aajjgg), Monday, 1 March 2004 18:35 (twenty-two years ago)

really i should just be honest and say that i need a list of cafes and bars that are not in adams morgan or u street that will make me think i am in europe. most places in DC are really in Fairfax or Tysons in the same way that Webster Hall is really in Long Island to most Manhattanites.

Aaron Grossman (aajjgg), Monday, 1 March 2004 18:36 (twenty-two years ago)

really i should just be honest and say that i need a list of cafes and bars that are not in adams morgan or u street that will make me think i am in europe.

We could try that DC FAP at 18th Street Lounge or Dragonfly that we discussed.

j.lu (j.lu), Monday, 1 March 2004 19:17 (twenty-two years ago)

Cleveland Park, perhaps? Your six story rule is making it a bit difficult. Capitol Hill?

x-post

Oh j.lu, where is the DC Lush???

quincie, Monday, 1 March 2004 19:21 (twenty-two years ago)

what about the music scene?
Capital Swamp: The DC Resource Thread

winstonsalem, Monday, 1 March 2004 19:42 (twenty-two years ago)

~Gallic in DC

Cafes
Cafe La Ruche in Georgetown (great hideaway)
Le Bon Cafe, Capitol Hill (a bit overpopulated by Hill people)
Kramerbooks, Dupont (cafe, but not Euro, and way overpriced)

Restaurants
Bistro Francais, Georgetown (relatively inexpensive solid bistro food; good for fish; prototypical date restaurant)
Bistrot du Coin, Dupont (very French, moderately expensive)
Au Pied de Cochon, Georgetown (food is mostly terrible, though I like the onion soup - connoisseurs might disagree - but classic anyway)

Bars
Bistrot du Coin, Dupont
Cafe Milano, Georgetown (not French, but Euro, as an epithet)
Eighteenth Street Lounge (again, Euro, but in a good way if they let you in)

gabbneb (gabbneb), Monday, 1 March 2004 20:00 (twenty-two years ago)

I don't understand the Webster Hall thing?? Anyway Adam's Morgan is increasingly my definition of vile so thank you for the list of other places to go. It's like the Lower East Side, but for only two streets, which you THINK would be an improvement but actually it just means all of the bridge and tunnel dork fucks and the weird hipsters and the guys cruising unsuccessfully to get laid are ALL WITHIN THE SPAN OF 5 FEET IN FRONT OF A PIZZA JOINT instead of spread out all over Alphabet City, so it's actually much, much worse, shockingly so, which is too bad because I really really like one of the joints on 18th Street! And I "like" Asylum in the way I "like" the Magician.

Allyzay, Monday, 1 March 2004 20:21 (twenty-two years ago)

Wait I might understand the Webster Hall comment, because while I was typing that big huge thing I was thinking, "too bad the one joint I really like seems to turn into a low budget Webster Hall with its clientele".

Allyzay, Monday, 1 March 2004 20:22 (twenty-two years ago)

Oh j.lu, where is the DC Lush???

M Street in Georgetown. More or less across M Street from Sephora/blue mercury/MAC.

j.lu (j.lu), Monday, 1 March 2004 21:49 (twenty-two years ago)

Interesting "Downtown" (below Dupont, west of the Hill, east of Foggy Bottom) places

Stoney's on L St. - cheap drinks, mad cow, dive-y atmosphere
Post Pub? - across the street from the paper
Sky Terrace - the rooftop (summer) bar at the Hotel Washington - or the Round Robin bar at the Willard?
Full Kee - for shrimp dumplings in chinatown; maybe Tony Cheng's Mongolian as mentioned above too (it's ok, nothing great)
Breadline - great lunch (only) near the White House from Marvelous Mark Furstenberg; filled with political people
Old Ebbitt Grill - very Federal City, across the Street from the Treasury Dept
Cap City and Gordon Biersch breweries
Irish Times/the Dubliner
Red Sage - I'm not sure that either upstairs or downstairs is worth it, but upstairs is cheaper
Fado - I never liked this Chinatown pub much, but others might

Moderately expensive restaurants: Zaytinya, Equinox, Kaz Sushi Bistro

gabbneb (gabbneb), Monday, 1 March 2004 22:33 (twenty-two years ago)

Good restaurants in Adams-Morgan
Perry's
Cashion's Eat Place
Wazuri
Little Fountain Cafe
Rocky's
Mixtec
Mama Ayesha's
Pasta Mia (closed?)
Bukom Cafe
Fasika's
Meskerem
San Marco

gabbneb (gabbneb), Monday, 1 March 2004 22:51 (twenty-two years ago)

No, Pasta Mia is still open. It always has a line outside though, f that. Mixtec was alright. San Marco and the Eat Place are never open when we want to go.

Basically a lot of the problems Ally and I have with AM is that we only get to hang out there together on the weekends.

TOMBOT, Monday, 1 March 2004 23:04 (twenty-two years ago)

There's a little restaurant with bar on H between 6th and 7th called Matchbox. Good gourmetish pizza, beer, not too pricey...

mookieproof (mookieproof), Monday, 1 March 2004 23:09 (twenty-two years ago)

great lists. thanks all. Ally im glad you get my point re webster hall and i share your and Tom's frustrations with AM. Half of my friends live there, and I have gotten very sick of the scene, to the point where I will begin demanding my friends to come over to the Four Seasons in Georgetown to drink scotch neat and read the paper whilst snacking of crunchy, wasabi-coated treatlets. That is a REAL night out ;-)

The best of AM seems to me to be... the third floor bar of Madam's Organ (I have been once, there were twenty people in a 200 sq ft room with a small bar, plenty of couches joined with coffee tables with ashtrays, and a fireplace with fire. "Low End Theory" was playing in its entirety, not too loud. Problem: Cover Charge. I have also spent a few nights at the Toledo Lounge, which is usually filled with calm, ageing indie rockers out after a long day at the non-profit to reminisce about Husker Du with their friends who they are not trying to fuck. That is pretty good for 18th st.

as for FAPs, I work both Friday and Saturday nights at the moment. Hopefully I will end this soon (I will probably have to work one, but not both.)

La Ruche and Bistro Francais are already infrequent haunts of mine. Even if BF is a good date place, I think I would rather keep it to myself because I dont want any of my 4am espresso/cake/newspaper/cigarette sessions to be overshadowed by memories.

Aaron Grossman (aajjgg), Monday, 1 March 2004 23:51 (twenty-two years ago)

more hotel bars - the New York-y but not "New York"-y bar at Bistro Bis near Union Station (expensive; good wine), the (fireplace-endowed?) Tabard Inn on N(?) St, comfortable but sort of nondescript Town and Country in the Mayflower on Connecticut Ave, and the king of them all in the Hay-Adams Hotel near the White House.

Back in the day, upstairs at the Common Share was kind of cool, but I think it's long since become as fratty/sketchy as downstairs. Felix can be a little much, but on some nights the upstairs rooms aren't terrible.

gabbneb (gabbneb), Tuesday, 2 March 2004 00:03 (twenty-two years ago)

Old Ebbitt Grill - very Federal City, across the Street from the Treasury Dept

Total tourist trap.

Is Kaz Sushi Bistro still open? Every time I pass by it doesn't look open.

The bar at Hotel Lombardy is supposed to be good.

In Adams Morgan you also have Chez Antoine, which does nice crepes and may have the most complete lineup of Belgian beers in town.

j.lu (j.lu), Tuesday, 2 March 2004 01:20 (twenty-two years ago)

Aaron, you just give me a call pretty much any week besides the next two and I will go sit with you in the hotel bar and act like a swank ass mofo, because that is hella a lot more fun than 99.9% of the cool bars in the world. I wish I had known your like for that scene earlier, because I would've invited you to Rise with us during the July 4th debacle.

(NB: $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$)

Mixtec is only ok! The Eat Place is really unreasonably expensive, gabbneb. Tom kind of OTM about the pasta joint too, I mean I pretty much decided it must be good if it has a damn line wrapping half the block but OTOH the chances of it being a better Italian joint than like any number of places I know in NYC is so slim that I refuse to line up to find out.

I think I prefer Georgetown to any of the neighborhoods I've stayed in in DC but I didn't check out Downtown as thoroughly as I liked back in the day (fyi the end result of the trip on this thread was "sitting around in a hotel room" again).

Allyzay, Tuesday, 2 March 2004 01:25 (twenty-two years ago)

yes, Pasta Mia is good but not worth waiting for. and Mixtec is only ok, but there isn't much better for Mexican in DC. the Salvadoran places maybe.

I guess Old Ebbitt hasn't been good for a long time; it was supposed to be more about the scene and maybe that was only in the 80s.

gabbneb (gabbneb), Tuesday, 2 March 2004 01:38 (twenty-two years ago)

i went to the olde ebbit at 2:00 am on a saturday once and it was fine. probably no fun for lunch though, or even dinner.

san marco is supposed to better than the other pasta place, but with no waiting. i have been. it was good.

i think there was a conflict of schedules in re rise anyways. the four seasons is a bit more stodgy though. i dont mind. keeps people from McLean away ;-)

Aaron Grossman (aajjgg), Tuesday, 2 March 2004 01:55 (twenty-two years ago)

15ria (near 15th and Rhode Island, get it?) is nice despite being in a hotel--the bar is small, but the food in the restaurant is quite good

mookieproof (mookieproof), Tuesday, 2 March 2004 03:53 (twenty-two years ago)

Washington DC is better than Boston or Baltimore.
Absolutely.

Thanks for the photos of Ben's Chili Bowl! I used to live right near there. it was perfect, you could leave the party at 2am to get food and only walk like half a block. Oh, and Chez Antoine is the absolute best thing in Adams Morgan, but for bars there, I like Staccato - on the nights when there's no performance - a nice upstairs space and the staff are super. There's also Chef Ike's Mambo Room on Columbia Road, laid back and friendly.. and Stetson's on 16th street, super unpretentious.. and of course, the wonderful Brickskeller. For restaurants there's a Senegalese place way up in the 6000 block of Georgia Ave, Chez Aunty Liby, which I plan to stop at next time I'm in town..

The Common Share seems to have gotten lame now that they've cleaned up their act, it was better before, though kinda shady.

I really, really, really, really miss DC. It's the best. :(

daria g (daria g), Tuesday, 2 March 2004 04:59 (twenty-two years ago)

my favorite swank DC bars guide-

Library Bar at the St. Regis
Top notch. One room, expensive, drinks are amazing. Closes at midnight, but it's really the best.

The Georgetown Ritz Carlton
The lobby is much better than the bar - it's got higher ceilings, more comfortable seats, a piano and a fireplace. It's one of the new Ritz prototypes - much less stuffy, retained some of the walls of the former incinerator. Good service, good snacks, about half the drinks on the specialty list are great and the other half are as bad as they sound.

Off The Record at the Hay-Adams
Ultimate Washington bar. Right across the street from the White House. Good classic cocktails.

The International at The Washington Plaza
Redecorated bar/lounge. Good bottled beer selection, great decor, and always empty.

The aforementioned Bistro Bis near Union Station

Charlie Palmer Steak on Capitol Hill
Great wines, great food, lots of seating at the bar. Especially good early on Saturday evenings when the lobbyists are at home.

Nectar
Small restaurant in Foggy Bottom with an even smaller and separate bar. Not formal, but probably the highest quality drink selection in town. Their rail bottles are top shelf.

As I type this, I'm realizing that the most important thing about a bar to me is available seating. And I'm ok with that.

For casual bars to stay a while, I like The Saloon, Soussi, Chez Antoine, Marx Cafe, The Reef, Brickskellar, the cavern at Bohemian Caverns (half price belgian beer happy hour Tuesdays), Cap City, District Chophouse, John Harvard's, Fin Mac Cool's, Polly's, and just about anywhere, really.

Brian Miller (Brian Miller), Tuesday, 9 March 2004 22:23 (twenty-two years ago)

i tried to get a job at the marx cafe and they asked me for a resume. was the speaker being ironic or is the name of the place ironic?

Aaron Grossman (aajjgg), Tuesday, 9 March 2004 23:49 (twenty-two years ago)

what's that really crappy irish pub in georgetown where the basement becomes a cheezy disco/swilltrough after 10pm?

gygax! (gygax!), Tuesday, 9 March 2004 23:54 (twenty-two years ago)

If you talk to any of the management/ownership at Marx Cafe for more than a couple of minutes, they're bound to say something inexplicable.

Brian Miller (Brian Miller), Wednesday, 10 March 2004 14:44 (twenty-two years ago)

what's that really crappy irish pub in georgetown where the basement becomes a cheezy disco/swilltrough after 10pm?

Do you mean Garrett's? Or possibly the Tombs? (Garrett's wasn't a specifically Irish place last time I was there, but I can't think of any other such places in the Georgetown area. Although there are crap "Irish" places elsewhere in DC.)

j.lu (j.lu), Wednesday, 10 March 2004 17:52 (twenty-two years ago)

hey ladies and gents: my band Indent is playing this Saturday night (ie Tomorrow) at the reopened Electric Maid space at 236 Carroll st in Takoma Park. sets at 7pm and 10pm, $7. its free improv music. see us now before we are famous!

Aaron Grossman (aajjgg), Friday, 19 March 2004 18:40 (twenty-one years ago)

i am drummer.

Aaron Grossman (aajjgg), Friday, 19 March 2004 18:45 (twenty-one years ago)

well, nobody showed up. we had the promoters, and the fiances of the two band members that have them. we had a few walk-ins, with one woman leaving in a huff saying "i cant believe i spent more money on them than Dire Straits". we played for four hours. it was exhausting. i was reduced to shaking my shakers only becuase i couldnt handle my sticks anymore. we played a lot more aggresively than usual. i described it as glen branca and ornette coleman trying to defeat the president through sheer sound alone. the pinnacle of that was the last piece of the first set, which was the guitarist on the piece stacking waves of guitar on itself, while i played almost-jungle-paced shifting breakbeats, and two players overblew on their sax and trumpet. it was especially instense as we had an overzealous tech person who had a smoke machine, strobe light, etc.

Aaron Grossman (aajjgg), Wednesday, 24 March 2004 06:49 (twenty-one years ago)

six months pass...
reread my posts on this thread and then realize that i ended up in adams morgan of all places. i sign the lease tommorrow. working five nights a week i probably wont have time to be bothered by the 'hood that much, but otoh i wont have much time for anything perhaps. working in a bar (especially a nightclub bar) is such a weird compromise, especially since i dont have many friends in the industry.

i think i will celebrate though by going to galileo for the bar lunch menu.

who still lives here besides tom and julia?

Aaron Grossman (aajjgg), Tuesday, 28 September 2004 23:50 (twenty-one years ago)

Aaron, you're probably working but my friend just bailed out on me so I have an extra ticket for Moz tomorrow, Wed., the 29th. Let me know if you want to come along...

Mary (Mary), Wednesday, 29 September 2004 00:58 (twenty-one years ago)

im probably interested. what time is the show, and where?

Aaron Grossman (aajjgg), Wednesday, 29 September 2004 16:40 (twenty-one years ago)

mmm... Galileo bar menu. Have you been to one of the lunches in the back of the restaurant when Roberto's grilling $5 sandwiches? Amazing. They only do it when he's in town and feeling like it, though.

Brian Miller (Brian Miller), Wednesday, 29 September 2004 16:43 (twenty-one years ago)

no i have not. i have never been at all. its just been at the back of my mind since i became aware ...

Aaron Grossman (aajjgg), Wednesday, 29 September 2004 16:45 (twenty-one years ago)

brian considering your posts on this thread and also on the DC music thread, i wonder how you have so much time? or do you have little free time but make a concerted effort to not waste it? ive lived in the metro area almost my whole life and really havent done shit except for od'ing on kung pao chicken at city lights.

Aaron Grossman (aajjgg), Wednesday, 29 September 2004 16:52 (twenty-one years ago)

I can directly attribute 90% of my going out to not having a TV or internet connection at home.

Brian Miller (Brian Miller), Wednesday, 29 September 2004 16:59 (twenty-one years ago)

ill soon be in that boat. im going to hook my ps2 up to my stereo and play vice city by sound only.

Aaron Grossman (aajjgg), Wednesday, 29 September 2004 18:10 (twenty-one years ago)

mary things are not going as smoothly as they can with the lease signing, preparations, etc., so i wouldnt be able to make it tonight, but how long are you in town for?

Aaron Grossman (aajjgg), Wednesday, 29 September 2004 19:21 (twenty-one years ago)

Hey Aaron,

Sorry I didn't get back to you--I was on the bus this afternoon and then without internet--though I almost walked into the MLK library--how is that place? Though just as well, as it turned out you couldn't make it anyway.

I ended up selling the ticket to a nice Georgetown girl. Const. Hall is a real crapshoot--I had my backpack bc I came straight from NYC, and they wouldn't let me in the venue with it, and they had no bag check. So, I had to get in a cab and high tail it to my friend's house and then come back. I got a vodka and cranberry, and they don't allow drinks in the venue! I think they even confiscated flowers.

Last time I was at Const. Hall I saw Corey Hart and was in sixth grade.

But, my seats were in the balcony, but no one cared where I went, so I went and stood right in front of the stage, having to deal with all these wining privileged kids about how they paid for their front row seats and that I should go away on principle, not bc there wasn't enough room. Do they realize this is a concert, not a bake sale?

I shook Morrissey's hand. He kept offering it and then pulling away and I wasn't sure if he was going to come through. I screamed. I think he gave me this look like, what are you so excited about, you mentalist? People could easily clamor on the stage at the end, bc the stage was like waist high, and no barriers.

What bar do you work at Aaron? Is it fun? I wish I had known someplace to go tonight besides Kramerbooks. I'll also be here tomorrow, but I don't know if I will go to VA or stay in DC--I'm staying with a friend in Dupont Circle. Let me know what you are up to. Did the lease come through? My friend who I'm staying with is buying a house in Vienna tomorrow.

Mary (Mary), Thursday, 30 September 2004 04:07 (twenty-one years ago)

one month passes...
sorry mary never saw this. am living in adams morgan right now. its ok. i work at a famous place for downtempo music that was known for its elitist door policy. everyday of work is a pyhrric (sp) victory until i get home and dance to all the records i buy out of "borrowed nostalgia for the unremembered eighties".

anyways, just wanted to congratulate dc on voting 90% in favor of the massachusetts liberal elitist ;-) fuck canada people, come to chocolate city. all you hipsters would love how 93.9FM plays 30 minutes of (black music) classics at noon everyday. why watch some trustafarian play a copy of "nasty girl" off his iPod at some overpriced watering hole when you can hear a real dj rock 2 copies every day on the radio? i love this city sometimes, especially the bar industry, whcih is so incestuous that i am practically an alcoholic for free (last bar tab for 7 drinks = $4.50 before 150% tip).

Aaron Grossman (aajjgg), Tuesday, 9 November 2004 00:55 (twenty-one years ago)

You should have just given him the twenty, dude.

Michael White (Hereward), Tuesday, 9 November 2004 01:01 (twenty-one years ago)

actually i did but i didnt want to figure out the percentage and it was a her.

Aaron Grossman (aajjgg), Tuesday, 9 November 2004 01:18 (twenty-one years ago)

one year passes...
My sister and law and her friend (both 22) are going for the weekend. In spite of being "from" DC, I haven't lived there in 10 years and not since I was in High School, so I just don't know where to send them.

They're both sort of highbrow - they like fun, but they're probably not going to want some straight-laced bar in Georgetown. I recommended Kramerbooks. Where else should they go out? And who has the best cheap eats other than Burrito Brothers?

A-ron Hubbard (Hurting), Friday, 15 September 2006 00:45 (nineteen years ago)

cheap eats
Teaism
Marvelous Market (takeout)
Mitsitam
Capital Q
Moby Dick (takeout)
Pizzeria Paradiso (focus on daily menu)
Raku
Red Sage upstairs

Kramerbooks can rate for environment, but not for food/value, and certainly not service

gabbneb (gabbneb), Friday, 15 September 2006 01:06 (nineteen years ago)

I don't really get the highbrow/anti-straight-laced-Georgetown calculus.

gabbneb (gabbneb), Friday, 15 September 2006 01:09 (nineteen years ago)

Even if BF is a good date place, I think I would rather keep it to myself because I dont want any of my 4am espresso/cake/newspaper/cigarette sessions to be overshadowed by memories.

ha. i'm probably never going back there.

gabbneb (gabbneb), Friday, 15 September 2006 01:13 (nineteen years ago)

Maybe "highbrow" is the wrong word. I mean they're both very academic, liberal artsy people who read a lot and like music and films. They probably don't want expensive, upscale places though.

A-ron Hubbard (Hurting), Friday, 15 September 2006 01:16 (nineteen years ago)

Oh, that was supposed to be sister-IN-law, btw.

A-ron Hubbard (Hurting), Friday, 15 September 2006 01:17 (nineteen years ago)

http://travel2.nytimes.com/2006/09/10/travel/10surfacing.html

I forgot Ben's above

gabbneb (gabbneb), Friday, 15 September 2006 01:22 (nineteen years ago)

Oh yeah, I used to frequent Ben's. I love it, but it might not be for them.

A-ron Hubbard (Hurting), Friday, 15 September 2006 01:23 (nineteen years ago)

Washington DC is better than Boston or Baltimore.
-- TOMBOT

this is true, but a little like saying hitting your cock with a hammer is better than drinking a milkshake made of cancerous ovarian tumors.

katie quirk (dubplatestyle), Friday, 15 September 2006 01:28 (nineteen years ago)

I'll also add Zaytinya, at which, though you can spend a lot and its chic-ish-looking, you can also wear flipflops and spend a little (well, less). It's near the Smithsonian American Art museum, open til 7, and Flashpoint is across the street.

Dupont is probably their first port of call, though

xpost: Dr. Strongo's Neuvo Urbanism

gabbneb (gabbneb), Friday, 15 September 2006 01:39 (nineteen years ago)

send em to Busboys and Poets on U St
for tea at Ching Ching Cha (Georgetown)

dar1a g (daria g), Friday, 15 September 2006 01:56 (nineteen years ago)

Busboys and Poets is great. Kramers is good for desserts. The Brickskeller for every beer in the world. Black Cat for indieness. DC9 for rockness.

uptoeleven (uptoeleven), Friday, 15 September 2006 09:11 (nineteen years ago)

i kind of hate busboys and poets, but i kind of hate everything.

p@reene (Pareene), Friday, 15 September 2006 12:10 (nineteen years ago)

Yeah B&P might be up their alley. Also sometimes I like Baltimore better than D.C. but both cities are pretty awesome and I'm continually perplexed by people bitching about them.

Also if they're looking for cheap eats then you absolutely, completely cannot do better than Amsterdam falafel in Adams Morgan. For real.

mango selassie (teenagequiet), Friday, 15 September 2006 12:17 (nineteen years ago)

Amsterdam Falafel holla. If I only had a few days in DC I would eat every meal there.

Brian Miller (Brian Miller), Friday, 15 September 2006 12:19 (nineteen years ago)

Vanessa Williams Knows Too Much: DC13

i cant handle that pop-up

Lazy Comet (plsmith), Friday, 15 September 2006 12:39 (nineteen years ago)

Yeah, I just had a falafel there last weekend. mmmm. the eggplant topping is awesome. don't ignore the toppings guide like I did first time I went there and put all hot peppers on yr falafel! (delicious, but.. S.P.I.C.Y.)

I thought I wouldn't like Busboys and Poets and then I went there and it was gorgeous, and the people were super nice, and the drinks, very good. worth checking out.

also how about Dukem on U St (ethiopian.) pretty good. not expensive.

dar1a g (daria g), Friday, 15 September 2006 14:34 (nineteen years ago)

The B&P experience really depends on whether you hit it when it's quiet (lots of light, cool staff, good pinko book browsing) or slammed (total clusterfuck of braying morons).

Stephen X (Stephen X), Friday, 15 September 2006 14:49 (nineteen years ago)

Or maybe it depends on whether I'm a sullen misanthropic bastard or not.

Stephen X (Stephen X), Friday, 15 September 2006 14:53 (nineteen years ago)

one year passes...

is DC worth living in? from broklyn it seems like an interesting change. I mgiht be going to school here (yes, you won't see dear burt stanberg hanging out at BCC anymore).

burt_stanton, Saturday, 29 March 2008 14:39 (seventeen years ago)

in this thread one will find contained the multitudes of the universe indeed!

jhøshea, Saturday, 29 March 2008 14:41 (seventeen years ago)

dc is worth living in just for the fact that you can point down the street and say "listen, mr. voter man, I'm not responsible for any of those shitbags getting paid to fuck this country into the toilet. they were elected by you, state resident. don't look at me. i just work here."

El Tomboto, Saturday, 29 March 2008 14:47 (seventeen years ago)

also, we're mostly recession-proof.

El Tomboto, Saturday, 29 March 2008 14:47 (seventeen years ago)

and as a corollary to my no-voting-is-wonderful theorem, there's the bonus that nobody can ever blame you for being a right venomous sour-faced cunt all the time, because damn dude, you live right up the road from satan's own dysenteric asshole

El Tomboto, Saturday, 29 March 2008 14:50 (seventeen years ago)

burt, you'd fit in great.

El Tomboto, Saturday, 29 March 2008 14:50 (seventeen years ago)

ohhhh

banriquit, Saturday, 29 March 2008 14:53 (seventeen years ago)

Oh, I'm a pleasant enough person in the flesh space. Taking a visit, it seems like people are a little more amenable in DC Cab... a little bland, but nicer. NYC has this dark spirit and when you live there long enough it takes you over, maaan.

burt_stanton, Saturday, 29 March 2008 14:54 (seventeen years ago)

(for thoe purposes of this arugment, nyc = nyc metro area)

burt_stanton, Saturday, 29 March 2008 14:54 (seventeen years ago)

NYC has this dark spirit and when you live there long enough it takes you over, maaan.

HAW @ this. Do you know what the industry is here? There's really only one. You may have learned about it in elementary school.

El Tomboto, Saturday, 29 March 2008 14:59 (seventeen years ago)

people trade their insecurities and boring past lives behind; in exchange they become raging a-holes.

burt_stanton, Saturday, 29 March 2008 15:00 (seventeen years ago)

what school?

69, Saturday, 29 March 2008 15:07 (seventeen years ago)

yes, the people are friendlier in that southern/midwestern way. there's more light and the temperature is up a notch. but the most interesting people your age you're gonna have to seek out - they're not all around you. yes it's the most highly educated place in the country, but those are old people. you'll basically live in a gerrymandered small hipster town nestled around the fringes of the marble institutions and their standard-issue social adjuncts. don't follow the money. or maybe you'll prefer the more collegiate/adult (and more douchey) international scene.

anyway, none of this matters all that much because you'll be in law school and will be with the same people day in and day out without too much time for anything else. the interesting ones may be few.

the girls are better-looking, imho. you may well get different mileage.

gabbneb, Saturday, 29 March 2008 15:25 (seventeen years ago)

RONG

mookieproof, Saturday, 29 March 2008 15:27 (seventeen years ago)

he might be right about the law school bit, I wouldn't know.

El Tomboto, Saturday, 29 March 2008 15:36 (seventeen years ago)

xxp DC chicks go jogging every morning, but they eat terrible institutional food lunches, so you get this great mixture of fitness and big buttedness. That's my theory at least.

kingkongvsgodzilla, Saturday, 29 March 2008 15:39 (seventeen years ago)

From what I saw the girls were nowhere near as good looking as the ones in New York, though that's because average girls can make themselves look hot with all the shit you have access to in NYC. But, they were a hell of a lot nicer in DC--no ego battles, just pleasant banter.

The school is AU, the third best school in DC. Unless I get off the Georgetown or GW waitlists. I'm not sure I'd want to stay in NY for law school... bad habits and all.

burt_stanton, Saturday, 29 March 2008 15:42 (seventeen years ago)

the ones I saw all had beer guts. of course in new york every girl is either anorexic or on the columbian diet, so it's a stark contrast anywhere

burt_stanton, Saturday, 29 March 2008 15:43 (seventeen years ago)

the people are friendlier in that southern/midwestern way. no.
there's more light and the temperature is up a notch. true.
yes it's the most highly educated place in the country, but those are old people. no.
you'll basically live in a gerrymandered small hipster town nestled around the fringes of the marble institutions and their standard-issue social adjuncts. no. it is a corrupt ghetto for the cream of the crop of our nation's assholes and their spoiled, worthless offspring, served by a noticeably aggrieved, voiceless underclass and filled out around the middle by civil servants and contractors e.g. me who simply are too apathetic, too well compensated, or too stupid to bother moving to a more socially acceptable part of the world.
don't follow the money. the money is the only reason anybody with half a conscience lives in this disgusting segregated throwback dump. But you and I may be talking about completely different things.
or maybe you'll prefer the more collegiate/adult (and more douchey) international scene. <- lol he is talkin' bout cocaines
the girls are better-looking, imho. you may well get different mileage. they might be better looking naked but hard to tell when they're covered in all that ann taylor loft garbage

El Tomboto, Saturday, 29 March 2008 15:45 (seventeen years ago)

Georgetown's status as a top school is entirely based on the value of their real estate, as far as I can tell. I've never met a single hoya who was worth the dinkleberries in my GI tighties.

El Tomboto, Saturday, 29 March 2008 15:47 (seventeen years ago)

Unless they were a stealth hoya maybe

El Tomboto, Saturday, 29 March 2008 15:48 (seventeen years ago)

http://www.defensivepessimism.com/db3/00212/defensivepessimism.com/_uimages/0465051383.jpg

I DIED, Saturday, 29 March 2008 15:52 (seventeen years ago)

sup

El Tomboto, Saturday, 29 March 2008 15:53 (seventeen years ago)

http://www.alleniversonlive.com/biography/college01.jpg

jhøshea, Saturday, 29 March 2008 15:53 (seventeen years ago)

I DIED you should check out this movie on your projector bcz I think it would look fucking sweet: http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0386741/

El Tomboto, Saturday, 29 March 2008 15:58 (seventeen years ago)

There's nothing like utter cluelessness to fuel dismissive pessimism!

Nathan, Saturday, 29 March 2008 16:07 (seventeen years ago)

you went to georgetown?

El Tomboto, Saturday, 29 March 2008 16:14 (seventeen years ago)

i keep reading tom's scatalogical rants on this thread in the voice of that manic depressive lawyer's opening narration in michael clayton

sanskrit, Saturday, 29 March 2008 16:16 (seventeen years ago)

i luvd that guy

jhøshea, Saturday, 29 March 2008 16:17 (seventeen years ago)

I AM SHIVA, GOD OF DEATH!

Nathan, Saturday, 29 March 2008 16:17 (seventeen years ago)

'Dr Pepper for the ears'

jhøshea, Saturday, 29 March 2008 16:17 (seventeen years ago)

tombot is otm about this; "the people are friendlier in that southern/midwestern way." no.

wtf gabbneb southerners have their own passive aggressive ways of being dicks, but dc just does full-on aggro dick by comparison!

m bison, Saturday, 29 March 2008 16:36 (seventeen years ago)

yr talking to new yorkers here, dude.

i realize my tastes are not average here. if you're less into the All American thing or Ann Taylor (no Loft pls) and more into cosmetics or fringes or hard drug shik or brunettes, you're likely to be disappointed.

my don't follow the money cryptoid wasn't referring to job prospects - i meant look to the non-profit/NGO spheres for interesting people. npr kids helped keep me sane.

i may be biased because i chose DC over 'better' schools out of personal/professional interest, then decided the town was too small for me after 3 years/more of my friends were at home. it still may be a more natural place for some of my underlying interests, but pear-shaped wall street is making for some very fun new york work at the moment.

i don't think people who make serious distinctions regard gtown undergrad as a 'top school', at least where i come from (not a very jesuitical place), but you can certainly find smart people there. it does tend to draw a type, tho, and the type is somewhat oriented towards tombot's arena. v v nice real estate of which the law school unfortunately does not partake.

the tenor of the town does change at least somewhat with the administration, so things might be looking up in 9 months.

gabbneb, Saturday, 29 March 2008 18:02 (seventeen years ago)

how is the georgetown type oriented towards tombot's arena?

69, Saturday, 29 March 2008 21:16 (seventeen years ago)

haha yeah you should be very careful with confusing the civil servant/contractor class with the Hill kids. I don't know how the fuck those people get up in the morning tbh

El Tomboto, Saturday, 29 March 2008 21:18 (seventeen years ago)

that American school seems like it has a decent crowd at least; half the kids I met there spent the past 5 years in Broklyn and Philly hipstering it up. Basically liberal arts kids meets law school. That was my only exposure to people in DC, except some dreadful bar in Adams Morgan.

burt_stanton, Saturday, 29 March 2008 21:22 (seventeen years ago)

Dude Tom, you met my brother! (Granted he didn't do Georgetown undergrad)

HI DERE, Saturday, 29 March 2008 21:36 (seventeen years ago)

tombot's arena = secret agent men. my impression is a lotta gtown kids, SFS especially, go down that road.

yeah I shouldn't project the people I went to school with on every DC school. I only know one guy from AU law that I can recall, and he's a great dude, tho not especially hipster-y. we had a decent amount of quasi-hipsterism, but you're there to go to law school - in large part, it got expressed only subtly outside of extracurriculars, submerged under the primary vibe.

gabbneb, Saturday, 29 March 2008 23:33 (seventeen years ago)

http://www.forgotten-ny.com/OUT.OF.TOWN/georgetown.trolleys/tracks.html

gabbneb, Tuesday, 8 April 2008 05:52 (seventeen years ago)

somehow i missed this thread. after being here for nearly 6 years, i'm moving to western massachusetts in a month. i've enjoyed dc but i'm really looking forward to leaving.

tombot's kind of OTM on the people. most people are dicks here, i think, though i've never lived in NY and i grew up in cleveland where people tend to be friendlier, if not as 'wordly' as the educated uptight DC folk. but really, DC is sometimes kind of lacking in down-to-earth, friendly people. due to the nature of the city, people tend to be obnoxiously career-oriented, very high-strung, etc.

though it's not all that bad. it's a very attractive town - all the row houses, lots of trees, lots of light due to the shorter buildings, lots of tiny parks/squares and benches here and there, great restaurants (no joke about the ethiopian food). for all the thai restaurants here, i have never been to one that has really been all that mindblowing.

i think there's a lack of good, quiet pubs, something i like a lot and found abundant in, say, cleveland, or st. louis. i haven't been impressed with a lot of the bars. i kind of hate 18th street apart from the good restaurants/record stores. admittedly i don't go out to bars/cubs that much and usually go out to eat instead.

i went to AU for undergrad. very interesting place, though it seemed there was a huge divide between the grad students/law school folk and the undergrad folk. like the rest of dc, very career-oriented people, sometimes obnoxiously so.

Mark Clemente, Tuesday, 8 April 2008 14:11 (seventeen years ago)

i kind of hate busboys and poets, btw. saw it mentioned upthread. kind of epitomizes everything obnoxious about the liberal activist/social justice types here. i admire the work they do etc., etc., but after going to AU and being here for a while, i'm kind of burned out on that scene. there's this heroic self-indulgence to a lot it that i find kind of repulsive.

has anyone been to the back room at busboys, the one with the stage? the wall behind the stage has three huge murals of GANDHI, the DALAI LAMA, and MARTIN LUTHER KING. so you hear a comedian telling these dirty jokes with gandhi, the dalai lama, and MLK staring sternly at the crowd behind him. that's kind of what i'm talking about. there's this huge pretense of it being this "community space dedicated to social justice" bla bla that i find really self-indulgent and kind of obnoxious.

Mark Clemente, Tuesday, 8 April 2008 14:19 (seventeen years ago)

two months pass...

Supreme Court Rules That Individuals Have Gun Rights

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WASHINGTON (AP) -- The Supreme Court says Americans have a right to own guns for self-defense and hunting, the justices' first major pronouncement on gun rights in U.S. history.

The court's 5-4 ruling strikes down the District of Columbia's 32-year-old ban on handguns as incompatible with gun rights under the Second Amendment. The decision goes further than even the Bush administration wanted, but probably leaves most firearms laws intact.

The court had not conclusively interpreted the Second Amendment since its ratification in 1791. The amendment reads: "A well regulated militia, being necessary to the security of a free state, the right of the people to keep and bear arms, shall not be infringed."

The basic issue for the justices was whether the amendment protects an individual's right to own guns no matter what, or whether that right is somehow tied to service in a state militia.

Maria :D, Thursday, 26 June 2008 14:29 (seventeen years ago)

Awesome. Now I can finally use that bazooka I've been hiding. Or is that not classified as a gun. I guess I can consult the ruling.

Tracer Hand, Thursday, 26 June 2008 14:30 (seventeen years ago)

The court's 5-4 ruling strikes down the District of Columbia's 32-year-old ban on handguns

Mr. Que, Thursday, 26 June 2008 14:34 (seventeen years ago)

http://www.demopolislive.com/gallery/images/1/large/1_the_right_to_bear_arms.jpg

Ed, Thursday, 26 June 2008 14:35 (seventeen years ago)

LOL I can hold a bazooka in my hand.

Tracer Hand, Thursday, 26 June 2008 14:35 (seventeen years ago)

Anyway all I can say is: thank goodness handguns are now easier to buy in Washington DC!

Tracer Hand, Thursday, 26 June 2008 14:36 (seventeen years ago)

I mean, I was really having a problem there for awhile.

Tracer Hand, Thursday, 26 June 2008 14:36 (seventeen years ago)

Constantly wanting a gun; not having it. Knowing I could be popped at any moment by a criminal, who doesn't have to obey the law!

Tracer Hand, Thursday, 26 June 2008 14:37 (seventeen years ago)

But now - now I can have a handgun. To protect myself and my family. God bless the Supreme Court of Unitinu.

Tracer Hand, Thursday, 26 June 2008 14:38 (seventeen years ago)

http://www.freemaninstitute.com/images/bullets74-87.gif

am0n, Thursday, 26 June 2008 14:39 (seventeen years ago)

if a criminal brekas into your house with a handgun, how're you gunna defend urself?? huhH?? why should the criminals be theo nly ones with guns?

burt_stanton, Thursday, 26 June 2008 14:43 (seventeen years ago)

Exactly. Once he catches the gleam of my polished .45 where it juts purposefully up from the waistband of my six-year-old Fruit of the Looms, he'll know "what time it is".

Tracer Hand, Thursday, 26 June 2008 14:46 (seventeen years ago)

xxp DC chicks go jogging every morning, but they eat terrible institutional food lunches, so you get this great mixture of fitness and big buttedness. That's my theory at least.

-- kingkongvsgodzilla, Saturday, 29 March 2008 15:39 (2 months ago) Link

tell me more

will, Thursday, 26 June 2008 14:48 (seventeen years ago)

he's lying, will. dc is pretty much universally accepted as america's most hideous major city.

the schef (adam schefter ha ha), Thursday, 26 June 2008 15:16 (seventeen years ago)

xxp DC chicks go jogging every morning, but they eat terrible institutional food lunches, so you get this great mixture of fitness and big buttedness. That's my theory at least

Entirely true. Great ankles, and they got back. Awesome.

B.L.A.M., Thursday, 26 June 2008 16:28 (seventeen years ago)

this is going to suck

TOMBOT, Thursday, 26 June 2008 16:31 (seventeen years ago)

a point i hadn't considered before:

who lives in d.c. and doesn't get to have guns legally?
who lives right outside the city limits and DOES get to have guns legally?

Tracer Hand, Thursday, 26 June 2008 19:51 (seventeen years ago)

or who lives in DC and is so stoked at the opportunity to own a firearm that doesn't already have one

El Tomboto, Thursday, 26 June 2008 19:52 (seventeen years ago)

xxp DC chicks go jogging every morning, but they eat terrible institutional food lunches, so you get this great mixture of fitness and big buttedness. That's my theory at least

ok, so i'll put dc on the list of places to move in the fall.

chicago kevin, Thursday, 26 June 2008 19:54 (seventeen years ago)

why should the criminals be theo

http://www.thehinter.com/hint/wp-content/uploads/2007/10/gordongartrellhb5.jpg

HI DERE, Thursday, 26 June 2008 19:58 (seventeen years ago)

that is totally otm btw

gabbneb, Thursday, 26 June 2008 19:59 (seventeen years ago)

he's lying, will. dc is pretty much universally accepted as america's most hideous major city.

i won't fight you on this. somebody'd have to come off major dough to get me up there - i'm talking 6 fig & some pretty perky benefits. OTOH there are just boatloads of cute girls up there. hot as NYC girls? Probably not. but they likely have lower standards and purportedly big(ger?) asses.

will, Thursday, 26 June 2008 20:04 (seventeen years ago)

five months pass...

http://rawstory.com/news/2008/DC_likely_to_gain_voting_member_1201.html

gabbneb, Monday, 1 December 2008 23:14 (seventeen years ago)

eight months pass...

sorry, i'm not sure what the most recent DC thread is. i'm going to be in town this weekend (fri-mon). i probably won't have any time to hang out since it's for my sister's wedding and there are various other family things planned, but if anyone (tombot? mr. que? anyone else?) wants me to give them a call on the off chance of a free evening, they can send their phone no. to naamme at gmail.

congratulations (n/a), Thursday, 6 August 2009 01:33 (sixteen years ago)

two years pass...

what kind of food is DC known for?

the most astonishing writer on ilx (roxymuzak), Sunday, 18 March 2012 21:31 (thirteen years ago)

there's mad ethiopian

BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Sunday, 18 March 2012 22:51 (thirteen years ago)

I think the only thing I have heard called a DC original is the Half-Smoke.

C-L, Monday, 19 March 2012 03:57 (thirteen years ago)

lotsa great salvadoran and ethiopian in the city, vietnamese in northern virginia

plus "things with mambo sauce on them," which might as well be its own food group

scream blahula scream (govern yourself accordingly), Monday, 19 March 2012 04:07 (thirteen years ago)

what is a half smoke

the most astonishing writer on ilx (roxymuzak), Monday, 19 March 2012 13:19 (thirteen years ago)

a type of sausage

lag∞na beach: the real ∞range c∞unty (beachville), Monday, 19 March 2012 13:31 (thirteen years ago)

Also, seconding the mombo sauce.

lag∞na beach: the real ∞range c∞unty (beachville), Monday, 19 March 2012 13:31 (thirteen years ago)

http://www.washingtoncitypaper.com/articles/561/the-missing-link

The history of the half-smoke sausage/hot-dog

http://www.washingtoncitypaper.com/blogs/youngandhungry/2011/07/21/did-mumbo-sauce-exist-before-d-c-s-asian-run-carryouts/

chicken wing dipping mambo/mumbo sauce history

curmudgeon, Monday, 19 March 2012 13:54 (thirteen years ago)

dang, ty

the most astonishing writer on ilx (roxymuzak), Tuesday, 20 March 2012 02:36 (thirteen years ago)

http://www.washingtonpost.com/local/mumbo-sauce-the-flavor-of-washington-that-isnt-the-president-and-the-politics/2011/07/14/gIQAFOqQII_story.html

http://chowhound.chow.com/topics/344683

more on mambo sauce - i love how bill cosby turns out to be the zelig of dc fast food

scream blahula scream (govern yourself accordingly), Tuesday, 20 March 2012 07:14 (thirteen years ago)

I DIED to thread

stay in school if you want to kiw (Gukbe), Tuesday, 20 March 2012 07:26 (thirteen years ago)

otm

BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Tuesday, 20 March 2012 17:41 (thirteen years ago)

what am I on the thread for, I see that mumbo sauce has been adequately covered

I DIED, Tuesday, 20 March 2012 17:44 (thirteen years ago)

four months pass...

recs for cheap places to stay near a metro step, that may also have cheap places for parking available nearby?

smells like ok (soda) (dayo), Wednesday, 25 July 2012 23:21 (thirteen years ago)

petworth? columbia heights? bloomingdale? honestly it's pretty easy to park a car in any of dc's cheap residential neighborhoods (assuming you get dc plates or have a backyard)

you could also look near h st ne, but metro access is definitely spotty

scream blahula scream (govern yourself accordingly), Thursday, 26 July 2012 03:21 (thirteen years ago)

why would anyone want to park in DC proper unless you work here, is my question

El Tomboto, Thursday, 26 July 2012 03:22 (thirteen years ago)

I used to hate on the bus system but now that I live on one of the main lines - 52/53/54 + Circulator, whaat - I am kinda becoming an advocate of the surface options to accompany metro. Search for cheap first and then use google or wmata to figure out what you can get to stop and station-wise. Seriously though, if you must park, park outside of town. It's just a huge pain in the ass without a zone sticker.

El Tomboto, Thursday, 26 July 2012 03:26 (thirteen years ago)

look for something in Virginia on the Orange line, maybe.

Legendary General Cypher Raige (Gukbe), Thursday, 26 July 2012 03:31 (thirteen years ago)

For cheap? I dunno. Would suggest green, blue or yellow. Orange line spots are kinda premium, with all the tech corridor industry shit + proximity to dulles, reston, tyson's etc.

El Tomboto, Thursday, 26 July 2012 03:34 (thirteen years ago)

five years pass...

in town for a few days. staying on Capitol Hill. anybody got recs for somewhere cheap/good/not-sceney to eat tomorrow night? local or yellow line preferred. can't drink (more than a cocktail) b/c of meds, so pubs are out. otherwise....?

rb (soda), Monday, 19 February 2018 23:49 (eight years ago)

Find some good places to eat?

curmudgeon, Wednesday, 21 February 2018 05:53 (eight years ago)

Cher cher was v. good, tyvm for suggestion. Also I scored tix to the NAAHM for a second day and beelined down to the café for catfish po boys.

Because it was hip and I hadn’t yet been, I went to Milkbar and I got a cereal milk soft-serve. It was fine, but I can’t imagine doing it another time.

rb (soda), Wednesday, 21 February 2018 21:57 (eight years ago)

Oh I'm just seeing this. Are you still here? Do you like our bizarre winter weather?

mom tossed in kimchee (quincie), Thursday, 22 February 2018 14:00 (eight years ago)

It’s weird! Today at least feels like February.

rb (soda), Thursday, 22 February 2018 19:47 (eight years ago)

three years pass...

The Heritage Foundation’s Zack Smith, arguing against DC statehood, says DC residents “already impact the national debate” because members of Congress see their yard signs while driving to work. pic.twitter.com/g7fV3TopCX

— Mark Joseph Stern (@mjs_DC) March 22, 2021

mookieproof, Monday, 22 March 2021 17:09 (four years ago)

four years pass...

Is there a “possible DC disruption today” email or text resource out there for commuters? Because something like that would be very valuable

Clever Message Board User Name (Raymond Cummings), Tuesday, 24 February 2026 22:39 (two weeks ago)

And I don’t mean for stuff that can’t be predicted- more like “hey, the SOTU is happening tonight and may cause the cancellation of bus traffic in the afternoon”

Clever Message Board User Name (Raymond Cummings), Tuesday, 24 February 2026 22:40 (two weeks ago)

won’t metro text alerts say?

Mollusk, Virginia (Boring, Maryland), Tuesday, 24 February 2026 23:03 (two weeks ago)


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