Foreigners! What have you learned most about the British from your time on ILE?

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Have you been surprised by anything? Any preconceptions popped? Any prejudices confirmed?

― N. (nickdastoor), Monday, 10 March 2003 02:26 (twenty-three years ago)

you're all so smart.

― RJG (RJG), Monday, 10 March 2003 02:28 (twenty-three years ago)

Shut up, you are British and banned from this thread.

― N. (nickdastoor), Monday, 10 March 2003 02:29 (twenty-three years ago)

You use funny words.

― Rockist Scientist, Monday, 10 March 2003 02:32 (twenty-three years ago)

you guys are always being mugged and knifed and getting your cars stolen.

― Aaron A., Monday, 10 March 2003 02:32 (twenty-three years ago)

I fear you have fallen to prey to the dave q propaganda machine.

― N. (nickdastoor), Monday, 10 March 2003 02:33 (twenty-three years ago)

you talk funny

― Tad (llamasfur), Monday, 10 March 2003 02:34 (twenty-three years ago)

)-:

― N. (nickdastoor), Monday, 10 March 2003 02:37 (twenty-three years ago)

you are a bunch of crankyheads

― electric sound of jim (electricsound), Monday, 10 March 2003 02:37 (twenty-three years ago)

)_:

― N. (nickdastoor), Monday, 10 March 2003 02:40 (twenty-three years ago)

y'all a bunch of poopy-pants!

― Tad (llamasfur), Monday, 10 March 2003 02:42 (twenty-three years ago)

we're all so smart.

― RJG (RJG), Monday, 10 March 2003 02:46 (twenty-three years ago)

my mama's a brit!

― Tad (llamasfur), Monday, 10 March 2003 02:48 (twenty-three years ago)

You all like to go on marches in cold weather to protest pre-emptive warfare

― Millar (Millar), Monday, 10 March 2003 02:54 (twenty-three years ago)

you never learned how to make punctuation men correctly . :-(

― Mike Hanle y (mike), Monday, 10 March 2003 03:19 (twenty-three years ago)

your women are all v. well-endowed

― Millar (Millar), Monday, 10 March 2003 03:29 (twenty-three years ago)

bobbins

― Vic (Vic), Monday, 10 March 2003 03:30 (twenty-three years ago)

generally speaking you seem more chuffed with yourselves than you deserve to feel - which from my time in england (MA study at LSE), i would say seems to be one of your more obvious collective cultural deficiencies. you seem to think you are 'witty' when you're not really. there are of course others, which you lot here seem also to display. i certainly prefer americans. may america cripple your rotten economy one day - if her's ever recovers.

― alli (alliok), Monday, 10 March 2003 03:39 (twenty-three years ago)

)))-:

(I don't know what that is, even the 'right' way around)

― N. (nickdastoor), Monday, 10 March 2003 03:46 (twenty-three years ago)

perhaps i can help: i also noticed that - like that unhappy face - a lot of you were grumpy and fat. all that's missing from your formulation above is the fucked teeth you all have.

― alli (alliok), Monday, 10 March 2003 03:52 (twenty-three years ago)

I think you're all lovely.

― Ally (mlescaut), Monday, 10 March 2003 03:55 (twenty-three years ago)

is momus british ?

― Vic (Vic), Monday, 10 March 2003 03:56 (twenty-three years ago)

"lovely" is practically a meaningless word and i'm disappointed that someone with almost my name would use it. it's a thread killer - it's soft and damp because it's been washed of descriptive potency. rather like the brits, really.

― alli (alliok), Monday, 10 March 2003 04:01 (twenty-three years ago)

Egads, the British have no descriptive potency! That's an insult, that is.

― Ally (mlescaut), Monday, 10 March 2003 04:05 (twenty-three years ago)

i think this is dave q's girlfriend!

― jess (dubplatestyle), Monday, 10 March 2003 04:06 (twenty-three years ago)

You are a noble race. Long may you prosper.

― Mary (Mary), Monday, 10 March 2003 04:15 (twenty-three years ago)

I think Enlgish people seem nice enough. They haev a good sense of humour and are generally polite. But their cuisine is really twuffy. They sure hate when their prime ministers try to blow up Iraq.

― Mike Hanle y (mike), Monday, 10 March 2003 04:38 (twenty-three years ago)

very much into crisps!

― Aaron A., Monday, 10 March 2003 04:40 (twenty-three years ago)

"god bless the people of england and the terrible food that these people must eat!"

good curries, though.

― Tad (llamasfur), Monday, 10 March 2003 04:40 (twenty-three years ago)

call sweaters "jumpers"

(i mean we call jumpers "sweaters")

― ron (ron), Monday, 10 March 2003 04:44 (twenty-three years ago)

That they are very subtle. And nice. They are playful in that they seem to enjoy a secondary level of meta-humour where they pretend to misunderstand what one writes and then make a joke on the pretend misunderstanding, although they understand perfectly well. So if you attempt in earnest to correct the pretend "misunderstanding" they are polite although continuing to make fun of you although it is all in good fun. (I think?) They are smarter than us but do not need to lord it over us. They enjoy American hip-hop. And they don't have "jocks."

― felicity (felicity), Monday, 10 March 2003 04:55 (twenty-three years ago)

I haven't really learned anything new -
just that most of yer think yer little island is pretty
darned important, and think of yourselves as Tom Cruise in
_The Rain Man_ (no prize for guessing who you think
is Dustin Hoffman)

― Squirrel_Police (Squirrel_Police), Monday, 10 March 2003 05:06 (twenty-three years ago)

felicty, you poor thing - brits are not subtle! meta-humour! (whatever that *actually* is). they are not smarter than americans - if that's what you are and mean. it's more likely they are not actually listening to you or they actually do misunderstand what they read/hear. america is a superior nation with superior brains.

(i'm not american, btw)

the brit = of "jock" is "lad" - they watch football, drink beer, eat curries while abusing the waiter and go to prague for piss-all and fuck slav prostitutes cause it's cheap and they can't get it at home cause they're all so fucken fat and ugly and smelly (all that old curry and pie rotting in their crooked-as-fuck teeth).

could "meta-humor" actually be their sickeningly patronising manner?

― alli (alliok), Monday, 10 March 2003 05:35 (twenty-three years ago)

you could say the same for certain American bozos. maybe that should be a thread -- "TS: Brit 'Lads' v. American 'Fratboys/Rednecks'"

― Tad (llamasfur), Monday, 10 March 2003 05:58 (twenty-three years ago)

i'm with felicity - they seem much smarter than the rest of us. then again, perhaps this is only the innately servile part of me that adores british accents, grew up in canada and was never particularly bothered by the fact that their queen was still on our money.

― Dave M. (rotten03), Monday, 10 March 2003 06:01 (twenty-three years ago)

the ones from oxbridge are like the nobility of ilx

― boxcubed (boxcubed), Monday, 10 March 2003 06:07 (twenty-three years ago)

Welcome back becky lucas.

― Leee (Leee), Monday, 10 March 2003 06:33 (twenty-three years ago)

Your PM seems bent on the UK displacing Canada as America Jr.

― Leee (Leee), Monday, 10 March 2003 06:34 (twenty-three years ago)

Leee, GO FUCK YOURSELF!
We are not America Jr and hopefully never will be.

― Mr Noodles (Mr Noodles), Monday, 10 March 2003 06:45 (twenty-three years ago)

People whom you thought were American/from the Americas but actually are British:

Stage Name: Birth Name:
Elizabeth Taylor Leonora Tufts-Spankworthy
Charlie Chaplin Zandra Smyth-Withersmiggle
Bob Hope Alastair W.O.F. Bottswopper

Britney Spears Nigel Charmondsley
Christina Aguilera Simon Snobbs-Holloway
Justin Timberlake Cassandra Thrall-Smirchcastle

And many others. You'd be surprised. Oh, very!

― Skottie, Monday, 10 March 2003 06:55 (twenty-three years ago)

you guys and girls who like british accents and think brits are smarter are about as sophisticated as madonna: brits probably are smater than you, in short. from my experience, oxbridge people aren't actually that smart.

― alli (alliok), Monday, 10 March 2003 07:07 (twenty-three years ago)

The Stooges could, under a certain light, MAYBE pass for being English. The Crue never, ever, ever, ever could be mistaken for being English in a million years. Therefore they are both more 'rock' and 'better'.

― Mr. Diamond (diamond), Monday, 10 March 2003 07:11 (twenty-three years ago)

I saw some Pearly Kings and Queens in central London yesterday - do they have THOSE in America, eh eh?

― Andrew L (Andrew L), Monday, 10 March 2003 08:07 (twenty-three years ago)

no but they have don delillo and paul auster and bite back sprays

― alli (alliok), Monday, 10 March 2003 08:16 (twenty-three years ago)

We like to bang on endlessly about buses and trains. In fact, I hadn't even noticed this until my time on ILE.

― Matt DC (Matt DC), Monday, 10 March 2003 09:11 (twenty-three years ago)

you have creative uses of the word "pants"

― M Matos (M Matos), Monday, 10 March 2003 09:15 (twenty-three years ago)

we have jocks. and geordies.

― RJG (RJG), Monday, 10 March 2003 09:30 (twenty-three years ago)

And some of you have bad breath.

― Lara (Lara), Monday, 10 March 2003 14:57 (twenty-three years ago)

b-but i'm using Lysterine night and day

― stevem (blueski), Monday, 10 March 2003 14:59 (twenty-three years ago)

Upthread, further proof that postgrad LSE = pay your fee, here's a B.

― suzy (suzy), Monday, 10 March 2003 15:00 (twenty-three years ago)

But its the in between times we have to worry about.

― Ed (dali), Monday, 10 March 2003 15:00 (twenty-three years ago)

They don't like cheesecake, which is puzzling. And some of them look like Snoopy (well, one of them anyway).

― Nicole (Nicole), Monday, 10 March 2003 15:15 (twenty-three years ago)

They love cheesecake if you get them to the right place eg. Veniero's.

― suzy (suzy), Monday, 10 March 2003 15:16 (twenty-three years ago)

I like cheesecake. Lots of Brits are irritatingly picky about food.

― Ed (dali), Monday, 10 March 2003 15:16 (twenty-three years ago)

Suzy, you're not british.

― Ed (dali), Monday, 10 March 2003 15:16 (twenty-three years ago)

cheesecake, especially Vicky's is marvellous.

― chris (chris), Monday, 10 March 2003 15:17 (twenty-three years ago)

Well, that's one little cultural misunderstanding cleared up then.

But I clearly remember British ilxors talking about cheesecake being horrible and vile on a cheesecake related thread.

― Nicole (Nicole), Monday, 10 March 2003 15:21 (twenty-three years ago)

Ed: DUH.

All cheesecake hatas change once faced with the mighty Veniero's.

― suzy (suzy), Monday, 10 March 2003 15:21 (twenty-three years ago)

what about polish cheesecake?

― Ed (dali), Monday, 10 March 2003 15:23 (twenty-three years ago)

An American never would have started ILx!

― g.cannon (gcannon), Monday, 10 March 2003 15:24 (twenty-three years ago)

Nicole, I think that was mainly Emma.

― chris (chris), Monday, 10 March 2003 15:24 (twenty-three years ago)

why not?

― Ed (dali), Monday, 10 March 2003 15:25 (twenty-three years ago)

Not a lot, to be honest.

― Andrew Farrell (afarrell), Monday, 10 March 2003 15:26 (twenty-three years ago)

barebones, no gimmick, a total mess, all language, sense of trust...

― g.cannon (gcannon), Monday, 10 March 2003 15:31 (twenty-three years ago)

I apologise to all cheesecake-loving British people who have been unfairly tarred with my cheesecake-hating brush. I hate it. Yuck. I must've got my point across very effectively.

― Emma, Monday, 10 March 2003 15:37 (twenty-three years ago)

"LSE - pay your fee, get a b" (how unoriginal)

oooh suzy, nasty - i got paid to go there (and naturally got a+s) actually, and now i am getting paid to fly off to nyu for my phd. it's better than what england has to offer - so there! are you one of those sad souls who has to pay there own fees cause you're so ordinary? or are you one of the oxbridge fools whose parents remortgage their houses to get their sprogs through. sad.

― alli (alliok), Monday, 10 March 2003 18:55 (twenty-three years ago)

You'd have to pay me to go to LSE too; it's full of spoilt rich kids.

'There' own fees? I'm guessing this PhD ain't in English.

― suzy (suzy), Monday, 10 March 2003 19:00 (twenty-three years ago)

I learned that I'm a foreigner:)

― oops (Oops), Monday, 10 March 2003 19:22 (twenty-three years ago)

"possession of the mind is a terrible thing it's a transformation with an urge to kill not the body of a man from earth not the face of the one you love, 'cause well, i turned into a martian woah oh oh i can't even recall my name woah oh oh times i never hardly sleep at night woah oh oh well, i turned into a martian today i walk down city streets on an unsuspecting human world inhuman in your midst this world is mine to own, 'cause well, i turned into a martian woah oh oh well, i can't even recall my name woah oh oh times i never hardly sleep at night woah oh oh well, i turned into a martian today go go well, i turned into a martian woah oh oh well, i can't even recall my name woah oh oh times i never hardly sleep at night woah oh oh turned into a martian woah oh oh can't even recall my name oh, won't you tell me what the fuck is my name, martian woah oh oh woah oh oh"

― dave q, Monday, 10 March 2003 19:37 (twenty-three years ago)

Foreigners! What have you learned most about the British from your time on ILE?

That they live in Britain?

― nickalicious (nickalicious), Monday, 10 March 2003 19:43 (twenty-three years ago)

Cheesecake is more interesting than dubious degrees, surely?

― Nicole (Nicole), Monday, 10 March 2003 19:45 (twenty-three years ago)

How much does it cost to get a PhD in cheesecake?

― Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Monday, 10 March 2003 20:21 (twenty-three years ago)

THERE IS NOTHING WRONG WITH FRAT BOYS, I'M CURRENTLY DATING TWO OF THEM. You bastards. They're lovely people!

― Ally (mlescaut), Monday, 10 March 2003 20:25 (twenty-three years ago)

Are they made of cheesecake?

― Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Monday, 10 March 2003 20:26 (twenty-three years ago)

(It is my mission to end every post I make to this thread with the word "cheesecake".)

― Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Monday, 10 March 2003 20:27 (twenty-three years ago)

Are they made of cheesecake?

And can we eat them?

― Nicole (Nicole), Monday, 10 March 2003 20:28 (twenty-three years ago)

ooohh suzy you got me their (sic). i hope you have some nice copy editing job that keeps you happy! and you're right - the phd isn't in english: i want a job when i grow up and i'm sure there will be lots of pay-their-own-way english litter types to correct my spelling/grammar while being paid 1/10 of what i'll earn...

you really take the bait, don't you; get too many Cs in yr time?

the road to lardassedness is paved in cheesecake/bagels.

― alli (alliok), Monday, 10 March 2003 20:35 (twenty-three years ago)

I learned taht people from Chsiwick like to fight with their elbows

― Mike Hanle y (mike), Monday, 10 March 2003 20:38 (twenty-three years ago)

A Riot of One's Own

― Fritz Wollner (Fritz), Monday, 10 March 2003 20:39 (twenty-three years ago)

Hanle y reminds me . . . I have also learned that the football teams have mascots and in particular that Swansea's Cyril the Swan is vicious.

― felicity (felicity), Monday, 10 March 2003 20:40 (twenty-three years ago)

I like the word "lovely." I say it (type it) quite a bit these days. But, since I hardly ever did before and know of nobody else who ever uses the word, it still seems pretty potent to me.

Anyway, I used to think of Brits as being old and weird and wacky, due to what little I've seen of British tv shows that are in syndication and the occasional British film. Old money. Some stuffy instead of wacky, or both.

Thanks to ILX, I now think of the British as being a very young, lively, intellectual group with good taste in music. My only complaint is that there seems to be a rather condescending attitude about Americans in general. Or maybe that's just coming from a select few with loud opinions.

― Sarah McLUsky (coco), Monday, 10 March 2003 20:46 (twenty-three years ago)

yes sarah, while i disagree re 'lovely', i agree re their attitude towards americans. to use a word that's similar to lovely, it's a *pity* they are like that. i think they're jealous: they never like it when their former colonies become strong nations in their own right. they are paternalistic assholes towards australians also, and as a melbournite, that annoys me greatly. they're often anti-semitic also. (though i'm sure no brit ILXers are.)

― alli (alliok), Monday, 10 March 2003 20:57 (twenty-three years ago)

No, they just hate fun.

― Nick A. (Nick A.), Monday, 10 March 2003 21:04 (twenty-three years ago)

I believe the correct word is "beefcake", everyone.

― Ally (mlescaut), Monday, 10 March 2003 21:06 (twenty-three years ago)

Aeglish people are beefcakes? I guess so, I mean look at Ronald Reagan. WHERE"S THE BEEF! Reagan was well endowed - WITH RINKLES! Yes, I left the w off rinkles. Why WASTE MY TIME typing letters NO ONE PRONOUNCES! GO TO HELL! I love the English be cause they say A"RRRRSE

― Mike Hanle y (mike), Monday, 10 March 2003 21:59 (twenty-three years ago)

I believe the correct word is "beefcake", everyone.

Two frat guys, one firefighter, and a partridge in a beefcake tree.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 10 March 2003 22:07 (twenty-three years ago)

Alli, you seem to think the world of yourself. If it keeps you interested in you, fine, the rest of us need some TRUCKER SPEED to stay awake for your spiel. All you've discussed is your earning potential, nothing about ideas, nothing about personality, nothing about intelligence other than to let everyone know all about how clever you think you are. You are NOT. we're ever so INTERESTED. Please find another place to compensate for real life; you wouldn't be bragging at complete strangers about your life and your worthless degrees if you had anything worth crowing about. Criticising me just proves how little you know about this community or in fact about Britain, America and all points between. Now away with you, and we'll give you Barbie's Dream House and everything, all you have to do is FUCK OFF.

― suzy (suzy), Tuesday, 11 March 2003 00:34 (twenty-three years ago)

I believe the correct word is "beefcake", everyone.

No, I think there should be little cheesecakes shaped like hottt firemen. That's one thing that the cheesecake currently lacks. Otherwise they are perfect.

― Nicole (Nicole), Tuesday, 11 March 2003 01:42 (twenty-three years ago)

Frat guys and firefighters are not exclusive terms!

Nicole is right though. Someone needs to set about fixing this cheesecake catastrophe. The greatest moment of my year so far was watching like 5 firemen get really drunk and dance to "Bad Girls", quite frankly if cheesecake was involved it'd have been the crowning moment of my life.

― Ally Partridge (mlescaut), Tuesday, 11 March 2003 05:43 (twenty-three years ago)

I get the sense that the average British person, while not smarter than the average American, bothers knowing about slightly more stuff. This may, however, have something to do with either nationalized television or having fewer sports to follow.

― nabisco (nabisco), Tuesday, 11 March 2003 06:14 (twenty-three years ago)

sorry suzy - i was just bored. EVERYTHING i wrote was a lie (including my spelling mistakes) and i fall in behind you saying it was all FUCKING boring too. just wanted to see if i could get a rise outta someone using boring and priggish statements. my other ilx identities are very cross with alli - they HATE her - but she did let a little steam out. i just LOVE that you care so much...alli was annoyed that some people write boring, wanky, self-congratulating things too, she understands, suzy - and thanks you for your editorial persistence. a dog with a bone and all that.

in parting, alli just wonders what *your* real life is like that you care so much about what is really just a collection of texts?

alli will be put down right now, but keep an eye out for her friends - you never know who they will end up 'being'.

― alli (alliok), Tuesday, 11 March 2003 06:29 (twenty-three years ago)

I think I was acting in my capacity as a reviewer of fiction when I noted what a dud you were ;-p.

― suzy (suzy), Tuesday, 11 March 2003 10:55 (twenty-three years ago)

Good grief - why on earth do people bother doing this?

― N. (nickdastoor), Tuesday, 11 March 2003 13:24 (twenty-three years ago)

why on earth do you bother reading it or posting to it?

― Marcello Carlin, Tuesday, 11 March 2003 13:27 (twenty-three years ago)

best thread I've read in ages!

― chris (chris), Tuesday, 11 March 2003 13:30 (twenty-three years ago)

why on earth do you bother reading it or posting to it?

Because it's Nick's thread and he resents it being derailed by an annoying troll, perhaps?

― Matt DC (Matt DC), Tuesday, 11 March 2003 13:38 (twenty-three years ago)

Err - yeah.

And I never responded to it once except with a silly emoticon.

― N. (nickdastoor), Tuesday, 11 March 2003 13:40 (twenty-three years ago)

ANYWAY. The original question.

I think my general answer seems to be 'nah - nothing much'. It's funny all this stuff about 'smart' though. What do you mean about having fewer sports to follow, Nabisco? I guess you have three main team sports plus ice hockey in the North. We have too, but I guess you could be forgiven for thinking that two of them aren't very important.

― N. (nickdastoor), Tuesday, 11 March 2003 13:44 (twenty-three years ago)

surely britain only has one sport (football), the others are minority interest things arent they?

― gareth (gareth), Tuesday, 11 March 2003 13:49 (twenty-three years ago)

creekeeet

― Ed (dali), Tuesday, 11 March 2003 13:52 (twenty-three years ago)

What about Wimbledon when Tossy Timmy is playing?

― Matt DC (Matt DC), Tuesday, 11 March 2003 13:53 (twenty-three years ago)

brits have taught me that gossiping about musicians is preferable to listening to them.

same goes with sports figures, pets, restaurant waitstaff, etc.

― zaxxon25 (zaxxon25), Tuesday, 11 March 2003 13:54 (twenty-three years ago)

Sports I know of that the British follow and Americans don't: football, cricket.

Sports I know of that Americans follow and the British don't: football, baseball, hockey, basketball, college basketball, college football. I don't know how we compare on following things like golf, boxing, or tennis.

Plus the nationalized television and geographical compression issues. I don't think you people are any smarter than Americans -- I just get the sense that in Britain and western Europe there's more more of a sense of a common pool of culture of be shared by people, whereas here it's very easy to simply live your own life and abstain from having opinions on anything beyond the television. And I don't think the difference is all that huge, especially when you're talking about Americans in major cities -- but I do get the feeling that it's a real cultural difference, just different levels of attention paid to the idea of a common culture.

― nabisco (nabisco), Tuesday, 11 March 2003 15:49 (twenty-three years ago)

Sports I know of that the British follow and Americans don't: football, cricket.

And rugby.

― Matt DC (Matt DC), Tuesday, 11 March 2003 15:51 (twenty-three years ago)

Ahh, rugby! Okay.

Sportswise I guess European club soccer fills in for some of the extra stuff we have, but seriously: do you have any idea how many sports are played in the U.S.? Even beyond the ones that lots of people follow there's, like, women's basketball, mens and women's soccer, minor league baseball, stuff like ARENA FOOTBALL ... there are a lot of sports going on over here.

― nabisco (nabisco), Tuesday, 11 March 2003 15:52 (twenty-three years ago)

Counting all these varieties of basketball and american football as different sports is cheating!

It's like I said: you have three (your football, baseball and basketball, plus hockey in some regions, ok FOUR) and we have three (cricket, football and rugby). In fact rugby is two different games if we are being picky - rugby league and rugby union are pretty different). And yeah, some people follow basketball and ice hockey too (go Sheffield Steelers!). I think we have quite enough teams sports to be getting on with. SHINTY!

― N. (nickdastoor), Tuesday, 11 March 2003 15:59 (twenty-three years ago)

but no one watches any of the other sports! no one cares! there is only football that is actually popular surely?

― gareth (gareth), Tuesday, 11 March 2003 16:05 (twenty-three years ago)

rugby and cricket are 7 to football's 10 in terms of popularity in the UK

― stevem (blueski), Tuesday, 11 March 2003 16:07 (twenty-three years ago)

Alli really has got our number tho eh? phew what a scorcher etc.

― stevem (blueski), Tuesday, 11 March 2003 16:14 (twenty-three years ago)

A lot more people watch golf than you folks realize.

― Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Tuesday, 11 March 2003 16:15 (twenty-three years ago)

Gazillions of people watch snooker and racing.

― Emma, Tuesday, 11 March 2003 16:18 (twenty-three years ago)

and darts

― chris (chris), Tuesday, 11 March 2003 16:20 (twenty-three years ago)

curling and hurling own this thread

― mark s (mark s), Tuesday, 11 March 2003 16:21 (twenty-three years ago)

Also: FIGURE-SKATING.

― Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Tuesday, 11 March 2003 16:25 (twenty-three years ago)

I watch golf on television and I also watch(ed) Farscape. I only started doing these things when I moved to the UK.

― marianna, Tuesday, 11 March 2003 16:33 (twenty-three years ago)

NASCAR!! Woo-Hoo!!
This is a really big deal in America, but UKers might not hear about it cuz it's generally not that popular in the big cities.
Counting college sports as seperate is legitimate because they are completely different leagues and run on slightly different schedules (Saturday is college football, Sunday is pro, plus the college seasons end before the pros so it's possible to be deeply involved in both outcomes)

The geography of the two countries cannot be underestimated as a factor. I'm sure you have your 'bumpkins' in UK, but here there's so much more of them and they have so much more room to occupy. Thus, if you take 10 random Americans and 10 random Brits, you're likely to get more rural than urban Americans and vice-versa for the Brits. I may got shot for saying this, but in general, rural people are less, um, wordly and will appear ignorant of many issues that Brits are familiar with. Ignorance !=stupidity

― oops (Oops), Tuesday, 11 March 2003 16:43 (twenty-three years ago)

Shouts out for camogie!

― Lara (Lara), Tuesday, 11 March 2003 17:00 (twenty-three years ago)

more ppl watched the snooker world championship final last year than the FA cup final.

― Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Tuesday, 11 March 2003 17:14 (twenty-three years ago)

I learned what a "pash" is.

― Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Tuesday, 11 March 2003 17:16 (twenty-three years ago)

I was waiting for someone to mention NASCAR, the emblem sport of Late Capitalism.

BUMPKIN PRIDE

― felicity (felicity), Tuesday, 11 March 2003 17:20 (twenty-three years ago)

This sports thing threatens to be a massive thread derailment. It was only my impression, one that should not be construed as having much to do with reality due to my never having been to the UK.

(Oops, however, does a good job of covering why college versus professional sports here really do count as separate things. Good God do they. Put it this way: I cherish the odd week of each year where no major sport is having playoffs or championship. The rest of the year, I suffer through friends getting worked up over X playoffs and checking ESPN news all night long, and then right when it's all over and I breathe a sigh of relief they say "oh and the college playoffs start on Thursday.")

― nabisco (nabisco), Tuesday, 11 March 2003 17:20 (twenty-three years ago)

"pash" is australian tho?

― Alan (Alan), Tuesday, 11 March 2003 17:25 (twenty-three years ago)

I'm sure Hanle y could say it better but I think the way N. gets our attention in the thread title by shouting + calling us "foreigners" pretty much sums it up. We flock to this. For Americans this treatment is reassuring, like being slightly punished in school or like a dog being crated. Then we imitate by traveling overseas and calling people foreigners! in their home nations.

― felicity (felicity), Tuesday, 11 March 2003 17:27 (twenty-three years ago)

What is Nascar?

― Matt DC (Matt DC), Tuesday, 11 March 2003 17:28 (twenty-three years ago)

Men named Dale, Rusty and Rickey consume enormous quantities of gasoline by driving souped-up American stock cars counter-clockwise, every last square inch of which (including the driver's uniforms) is covered with signifiers for consumer products appealing primarily to the heartland/bible belt demographic.

― felicity (felicity), Tuesday, 11 March 2003 17:31 (twenty-three years ago)

Counting college sports as seperate is legitimate because they are completely different leagues and run on slightly different schedules

Fair enough, but we have county cricket and test cricket and one-day matches. And football has about one bazillion different leagues.

(felicity - I was just trying to reclaim foreigners as completely subjective noun, as it should be. Yes it did cross my mind that some people might find if funny to be described as foreigners, but you are, to me. I was a bit worried that people would think it was trying to insist that ILE was a British board, which it isn't.)

― N. (nickdastoor), Tuesday, 11 March 2003 17:33 (twenty-three years ago)

STOCK CAR RACING IS MAGIC!

Ahem.

― Matt DC (Matt DC), Tuesday, 11 March 2003 17:33 (twenty-three years ago)

I don't expect anyone to understand that.

― Matt DC (Matt DC), Tuesday, 11 March 2003 17:34 (twenty-three years ago)

and the races aren't predetermined like F1

― lawrence kansas (lawrence kansas), Tuesday, 11 March 2003 17:34 (twenty-three years ago)

US Formula One.

― Pete (Pete), Tuesday, 11 March 2003 17:34 (twenty-three years ago)

yes alan, but australian = british w.kangaroos

― mark s (mark s), Tuesday, 11 March 2003 17:34 (twenty-three years ago)

cletus, ah likes them loud shiny cahs and I luvs yu.
Ah, rusty, you knows jebus don't like such things.

― Ed (dali), Tuesday, 11 March 2003 17:35 (twenty-three years ago)

NASCAR 101:
Do you wonder what all the flags mean? Do friends look at you funny because you don't know what "dirty air" is? Do you lie awake wondering how your driver earned 170 points last weekend? Here's all the info.

N, it was funny. Dassssssssssstor is our friend!

― felicity (felicity), Tuesday, 11 March 2003 17:35 (twenty-three years ago)

American = British with NASCAR, burritos, and bigger hats?

― nabisco (nabisco), Tuesday, 11 March 2003 17:36 (twenty-three years ago)

NASCAR = Touring Cars with really dull tracks.

― Ed (dali), Tuesday, 11 March 2003 17:36 (twenty-three years ago)

Okay so things I have learned about British people: slightly touchy about implication that they may have less sports than we do!

― nabisco (nabisco), Tuesday, 11 March 2003 17:37 (twenty-three years ago)

I couldn't give a toss about sport.

― Ed (dali), Tuesday, 11 March 2003 17:38 (twenty-three years ago)

It's quality, not quantity, nabisco. They have that one with the brooms and golden snatches or whatever.

― felicity (felicity), Tuesday, 11 March 2003 17:38 (twenty-three years ago)

apart from cricket

― Ed (dali), Tuesday, 11 March 2003 17:38 (twenty-three years ago)

yeah that's the one

― felicity (felicity), Tuesday, 11 March 2003 17:39 (twenty-three years ago)

WE INVENTED SPORT

― N. (nickdastoor), Tuesday, 11 March 2003 17:40 (twenty-three years ago)

Golden snatch! (Mmmm, golden snatch...)

― nabisco (nabisco), Tuesday, 11 March 2003 17:44 (twenty-three years ago)

Any sport with golden snatches is automatically the best sport ever.

― Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Tuesday, 11 March 2003 17:45 (twenty-three years ago)

Francis Drake to thread!

― jel -- (jel), Tuesday, 11 March 2003 17:46 (twenty-three years ago)

Sorry, I am imagining some sort of yummy honeyed labia-shaped cereal ... "Get them wet and you put them on your tongue."

― nabisco (nabisco), Tuesday, 11 March 2003 17:46 (twenty-three years ago)

Nabisco is a GOD AMONGST MEN!

― Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Tuesday, 11 March 2003 17:47 (twenty-three years ago)

Dan + nabisco = the pride of the US University system

― felicity (felicity), Tuesday, 11 March 2003 17:48 (twenty-three years ago)

what is golden snatch? Is it like Syrup Sponges?

― jel -- (jel), Tuesday, 11 March 2003 17:48 (twenty-three years ago)

(I imagine it would have a cartoon spokesman that looked like Sugar Bear's dream woman.)

― nabisco (nabisco), Tuesday, 11 March 2003 17:50 (twenty-three years ago)

Fair enough, but we have county cricket and test cricket and one-day matches. And football has about one bazillion different leagues

And I'm assuming these are all on BBC all day during the weekend?

― oops (Oops), Tuesday, 11 March 2003 17:51 (twenty-three years ago)

Golden Snatch should be like those candies wrapped in gold foil, only instead of opening it up and getting chocolate... (etc.)

― Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Tuesday, 11 March 2003 17:51 (twenty-three years ago)

. . . YES??? (I am not at ALL sure I want you to finish that sentence)

― felicity (felicity), Tuesday, 11 March 2003 17:52 (twenty-three years ago)

BBC doesn't show any cricket. It's on Channel 4 or Sky Sports.

(you'd lick off all the chocolate I suspect)

― jel -- (jel), Tuesday, 11 March 2003 17:54 (twenty-three years ago)

NASCAR = Touring Cars with really dull tracks.

That makes it sound better than it actually is

― oops (Oops), Tuesday, 11 March 2003 17:56 (twenty-three years ago)

I think if you understand NASCAR, Shania Twain's Ramones shirt will make more sense.

― felicity (felicity), Tuesday, 11 March 2003 17:59 (twenty-three years ago)

Once again perversion runs rampant.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 11 March 2003 18:07 (twenty-three years ago)

and whenever perversion is running rampant, Ned isn't too far behind! ;)

― jel -- (jel), Tuesday, 11 March 2003 18:12 (twenty-three years ago)

That is one of the most brilliant things Felicity has ever said (and Felicity has said a lot of great things in her day).

Someone go post it to the ILM thread.

― nabisco (nabisco), Tuesday, 11 March 2003 18:20 (twenty-three years ago)

yeah, and go get me a beer while you're at it.

― oops (Oops), Tuesday, 11 March 2003 18:24 (twenty-three years ago)

can we not talk about NASCAR? this thread is about the British after all...

― stevem (blueski), Tuesday, 11 March 2003 18:24 (twenty-three years ago)

suzy - it's hard to write bad fiction - you, in your capacity as fiction reviewer, should know that. i wonder who, in you tongue-poking eye-winking world, publishes you? do they delete the expletives, or it is that kind of publication? FUCK OFF is hard to beat.

― alli (alliok), Tuesday, 11 March 2003 18:34 (twenty-three years ago)

can't we all just blah blah blah

― oops (Oops), Tuesday, 11 March 2003 18:37 (twenty-three years ago)

I've learned I like the British a lot more than I like alli.

― Tep (ktepi), Tuesday, 11 March 2003 18:38 (twenty-three years ago)

alli gave the term 'whinging poms' a fantastic sense of irony

― stevem (blueski), Tuesday, 11 March 2003 19:09 (twenty-three years ago)

not really, cause alli IS a pom, and that IS the TRUTH...

(but it could be meta-irony in that case)

― alli (alliok), Tuesday, 11 March 2003 19:54 (twenty-three years ago)

I'm tempted to start a "What have you learned about Americans from ILX?" thread, but can the subject be tackled in this one?

― oops (Oops), Tuesday, 11 March 2003 19:56 (twenty-three years ago)

Foreigners! What have you learned most about the Americans from your time on ILE?

― felicity (felicity), Tuesday, 11 March 2003 19:57 (twenty-three years ago)

you Americans tip for everything

― lawrence kansas (lawrence kansas), Tuesday, 11 March 2003 20:00 (twenty-three years ago)

They listen to good music and take notice of what they eat and can describe it well. And they tip for everything.

― aaron (aaron), Tuesday, 11 March 2003 20:01 (twenty-three years ago)

thanks for contributing lawrence and aaron....here's a quarter for each of ya

― oops (Oops), Tuesday, 11 March 2003 20:02 (twenty-three years ago)

Yeah, mainly the tipping thing. Actually it's an interesting question cause I always presume that the British know far more about America than vice versa, just cause America is so dominant a culture. I am sure I have learned lots of individual things that I didn't know before from ILE, but I can't think of any right now.

― N. (nickdastoor), Tuesday, 11 March 2003 20:15 (twenty-three years ago)

They have Dan and Ned => I would like to be the first to welcome our insect American masters!

― Andrew Farrell (afarrell), Tuesday, 11 March 2003 20:16 (twenty-three years ago)

A quarter. Generous - I could make one local call at one of those dirty cool public telephones you find in almost all American films - they've even survived the entry of cellphones into film narrative.

― aaron (aaron), Tuesday, 11 March 2003 20:38 (twenty-three years ago)

Pay phones are very much with us! You need them in the subway and also they are important for getting in and out of the Matrix. In parts of the country they are conveniently situated at pickup truck window level.

― felicity (felicity), Tuesday, 11 March 2003 20:47 (twenty-three years ago)

Most of them cost more than a quarter now, though. At least everywhere I've needed one during the past few years. Coming across a quarter one is sort of like coming across one of those old vending machines where you can get an orange soda for 35 cents.

― nabisco (nabisco), Tuesday, 11 March 2003 20:50 (twenty-three years ago)

. . . in a paper cup! With crushed ice!

― felicity (felicity), Tuesday, 11 March 2003 20:52 (twenty-three years ago)

Some have cans. Some have 12-ounce glass bottles, or those bottled baby-sodas.

Sadly, payphones are vanishing. I needed a payphone once in Lincoln Park, Chicago, so I went into a convenience store to check. They didn't have one, and when I asked the man behind the counter if he knew where I might find one, he said: "Outside of Lincoln Park?"

― nabisco (nabisco), Tuesday, 11 March 2003 20:53 (twenty-three years ago)

This thread reminds me of this and this.

― Sarah McLusky (coco), Tuesday, 11 March 2003 20:53 (twenty-three years ago)

Yes, pay phones were like drug dealer kiosks back in the day.

― felicity (felicity), Tuesday, 11 March 2003 20:54 (twenty-three years ago)

felicity, you make me chuckle

― oops (Oops), Tuesday, 11 March 2003 21:02 (twenty-three years ago)

Actually, to bring this thread back on topic, I was telling a British friend last night that British people seem to think Americans love the IRA" and she said "Americans DO love the IRA! Gerry Adams is coming to eat at the White House next week!"

― felicity (felicity), Tuesday, 11 March 2003 21:03 (twenty-three years ago)

Most important fact I have discovered about Americans on ILx: having a washing machine in your flat is not usual.

― RickyT (RickyT), Tuesday, 11 March 2003 21:03 (twenty-three years ago)

oops I like the cut of your jib as well, particularly on French foreign policy.

― felicity (felicity), Tuesday, 11 March 2003 21:04 (twenty-three years ago)

yes, Ricky, but having a 'flat' is very unusual.

What did I say about the French, felicity?

― oops (Oops), Tuesday, 11 March 2003 21:06 (twenty-three years ago)

Define "in your flat." I mean, "in your building" is pretty normal, you just have to walk downstairs or something. Do you guys have them in every unit?

(Also, in new buildings outside of major American cities you're likely to have one in your apartment itself.)

― nabisco (nabisco), Tuesday, 11 March 2003 21:07 (twenty-three years ago)

cause I always presume that the British know far more about America than vice versa, just cause America is so dominant a culture. I am sure I have learned lots of individual things that I didn't know before from ILE, but I can't think of any right now.

B-b-b-but NICK, you didn't even know what an ice cream sandwich was!

I think if any Brits want to know something kooky about America, all I can offer is some strange snacks, honestly.

― Mandee, Tuesday, 11 March 2003 21:08 (twenty-three years ago)

Did Francis Drake and his Golden [Be]Hind ever make it to the thread or is he still out chasing Golden Snatch?

― Skottie, Tuesday, 11 March 2003 21:09 (twenty-three years ago)

They have Dan and Ned => I would like to be the first to welcome our insect American masters!

Ah excellent. Now polish that exoskeleton.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 11 March 2003 21:10 (twenty-three years ago)

Oh wait, I have noticed the washing machine thing. I do not have a washing machine at all. And most of my friends don't have one, either. But yet it seems a lot of Brits have them in their houses/apartments. Yet I think you'd have to look hard for an American without a coffee maker. I have one of those water-boily things that a lot of Brits have. They rule.

― Mandee, Tuesday, 11 March 2003 21:12 (twenty-three years ago)

flat=apartement
Block of Flats=Apartment Building
Maisonette=Condo

― Ed (dali), Tuesday, 11 March 2003 21:14 (twenty-three years ago)

do you mean a kettle?

― Ed (dali), Tuesday, 11 March 2003 21:14 (twenty-three years ago)

What did I say about the French

-----

why even have them be a member if they should always agree w/US and UK?
Perhaps there should just be an empty seat for France and we should just assume that they agree w/everything we do. This would be easier than trying to persuade them to agree w/us.
Rest of World:"Has anybody asked France about this resolution?"
US/UK:"Why should we? They're just our bitch. Get back in the kitchen and cook me up some creme broule, bitch!"
-- oops (buttch9...), February 21st, 2003.

― felicity (felicity), Tuesday, 11 March 2003 21:16 (twenty-three years ago)

Yet I think you'd have to look hard for an American without a coffee maker.

Me me me! I hate coffee, though. And to go upthread a bit, I hate cheesecake, too.

― rosemary (rosemary), Tuesday, 11 March 2003 21:23 (twenty-three years ago)

Yes, an electric kettle.

― Mandee, Tuesday, 11 March 2003 21:24 (twenty-three years ago)

I hate coffee
I hate cigarettes
Also, I hate getting up in the morning
Coincidence?

― oops (Oops), Tuesday, 11 March 2003 21:28 (twenty-three years ago)

I have learnt that americans are easily amused by replacing the word french with the word freedom.

(france=freedom ooh the irony)

― Ed (dali), Tuesday, 11 March 2003 21:34 (twenty-three years ago)

haha I am easily amused period.

― felicity (felicity), Tuesday, 11 March 2003 21:35 (twenty-three years ago)

I'm just easy. Wait, that sounds wrong.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 11 March 2003 21:36 (twenty-three years ago)

We have to make up for our lack of biting wit somehow.

― Nick A. (Nick A.), Tuesday, 11 March 2003 21:37 (twenty-three years ago)

People always find it witty when I bite them.

― Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Tuesday, 11 March 2003 21:38 (twenty-three years ago)

oy vey the oneliners

― Ed (dali), Tuesday, 11 March 2003 21:39 (twenty-three years ago)

You mean the onliners, right?

― Nick A. (Nick A.), Tuesday, 11 March 2003 21:39 (twenty-three years ago)

I have learned that the British are sensitive to one-liners. THIS SHALL BE THE CORNERSTONE OF OUR ATTACK.

― Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Tuesday, 11 March 2003 21:42 (twenty-three years ago)

It is funny because "French" means foreign! and "freedom" means American! So it's opposite hahaha! And quite pleasingly simple, like occupying France itself. Life in America is not all complexity and contradiction, like at the Darlington 500, all the time.

― felicity (felicity), Tuesday, 11 March 2003 21:43 (twenty-three years ago)

http://images.google.com/images?q=tbn:BK1ziUSaEBcC:www.nick.com/common/images/tv/new/clarissa/main_page/Clarissa.gif

― nabisco (nabisco), Tuesday, 11 March 2003 21:58 (twenty-three years ago)

http://www.nick.com/all_nick/tv_shows/single_pic.jhtml?propertyId=557&downloadId=15000613
Way to be, Ferg Brain. .

― Mandee, Tuesday, 11 March 2003 22:02 (twenty-three years ago)

nabisco, what is that? It looks like Alicia Silverstone.

― felicity (felicity), Tuesday, 11 March 2003 22:03 (twenty-three years ago)

http://www.ee.surrey.ac.uk/Contrib/Entertainment/Clarissa/ferguson.gif

― Mandee, Tuesday, 11 March 2003 22:03 (twenty-three years ago)

Nah, it's Sabrina before she was Teenage and Witchy

― RickyT (RickyT), Tuesday, 11 March 2003 22:05 (twenty-three years ago)

Shhhh Dan, icsnay on the itishbray attackray

― oops (Oops), Tuesday, 11 March 2003 22:05 (twenty-three years ago)

trying to baffle us with Clarrisa Explains It All will not work, neither will the Wonder Years or that one where that girl got super powers from an industrial accident.

― jel -- (jel), Tuesday, 11 March 2003 22:10 (twenty-three years ago)

The Secret Life of Alex Mack? Damnit, that was next on my list.

― Mandee, Tuesday, 11 March 2003 22:16 (twenty-three years ago)

Sorry, I usually hate when people post random pictures into threads, but Felicity said "Darlington," and something about the juxtaposition of Felicity and Darlington made me think of Clarissa Darling, and then I realized I could sort of imagine a lot of Felicity's posts being read with Clarissa's intonation and delivery and ... I dunno, I just did.

― nabisco (nabisco), Tuesday, 11 March 2003 22:18 (twenty-three years ago)

http://smallwonder.hispeed.com/Images/wonder.jpg

― Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Tuesday, 11 March 2003 22:19 (twenty-three years ago)

Grounded for Life is great.

― jel -- (jel), Tuesday, 11 March 2003 22:22 (twenty-three years ago)

America and Britain suXor! U R all gay!

― OBL (Oops), Tuesday, 11 March 2003 22:23 (twenty-three years ago)

they need to do a 'where are they now?' on Small Wonder

― oops (Oops), Tuesday, 11 March 2003 22:24 (twenty-three years ago)

i love that there are payphones at truck height.

― aaron (aaron), Tuesday, 11 March 2003 22:40 (twenty-three years ago)

they need to do a 'where are they now?' on Osama bin Laden.

― hstencil, Tuesday, 11 March 2003 22:42 (twenty-three years ago)

hstencil, that would be filled w/a lot of: "I dunno..do you know?...no I don't know" followed by Arabic mumbling.

― oops (Oops), Tuesday, 11 March 2003 22:47 (twenty-three years ago)

Are there really payphones at pickup truck height or was that a joke? funny either way

― oops (Oops), Tuesday, 11 March 2003 22:54 (twenty-three years ago)

It's true, at least in the Midwest.

― Nicole (Nicole), Tuesday, 11 March 2003 22:55 (twenty-three years ago)

Shhhh Dan, icsnay on the itishbray attackray
Oh No! Attackray! Oh No!

― Martin Skidmore (Martin Skidmore), Tuesday, 11 March 2003 23:12 (twenty-three years ago)

i thought there was a ruckus in here, due to many posts. alas, no ruckus

― ron (ron), Wednesday, 12 March 2003 03:05 (twenty-two years ago)

Could you describe the ruckus, sir?

― Tep (ktepi), Wednesday, 12 March 2003 03:09 (twenty-two years ago)

Oh, could we go back to Aaron Blank-Man's comment? The general perception on both sides is that the U.S. is more violent than other nations, but ILE has indeed led me to believe that British people in my social bracket get attacked, beaten, or robbed much more than their American counterparts.

Is is just that American cities are more socio-economically segregated?

― nabisco (nabisco), Wednesday, 12 March 2003 03:19 (twenty-two years ago)

(I mean, not that socio-economic segregation means less violence, it just means that certain brackets can isolating themselves from it more effectively.)

― nabisco (nabisco), Wednesday, 12 March 2003 03:20 (twenty-two years ago)

I think nabisco is probably right re: segregation. I've lived in NYC, L.A., and Washington, D.C. and have never know anyone* who was the victim of violent crime. You know where not to be, by and large. And the people who choose/are forced to live in those places (where you "know not to be") suffer some of the worst crime statistics in the country.

[*with one or two exceptions, over 15 years]

― Skottie, Wednesday, 12 March 2003 06:21 (twenty-two years ago)

Well, in the course of work, members of my family (not counting the police lieutenant) have been cornered at gunpoint about four times in the Minneapolis suburbs.

Guns are illegal here unless you hunt, which convinces me of British sanity. I know only two people who have been through a violent crime experience here - both women. Otherwise British crime is mostly alcohol-induced aggro, house-breaking and teenagers stealing phones.

― suzy (suzy), Wednesday, 12 March 2003 09:23 (twenty-two years ago)

I have never been a personal victim of crime, i.e been present when the crime was coimmited against me, I've had enough car stereos knicked off me though. I don't think I know anyone who has been a victim of violent crime. (this may have something to do with being 1m88 with dreadlocks, fear me)

― Ed (dali), Wednesday, 12 March 2003 09:27 (twenty-two years ago)

ILE has indeed led me to believe that British people in my social bracket get attacked, beaten, or robbed much more than their American counterparts.

I think this is almost certainly an ILE-induced myth.

― Matt DC (Matt DC), Wednesday, 12 March 2003 09:33 (twenty-two years ago)

I have, but only the once and according to the police the guy was targeting young women in student areas, so ...

― Anna (Anna), Wednesday, 12 March 2003 10:07 (twenty-two years ago)

two kids tried it once with me. But they didn't get anything apart from a few bruises.

― chris (chris), Wednesday, 12 March 2003 11:05 (twenty-two years ago)

I pulled a complete Buffy on some ruggerholes in the tube once.

― suzy (suzy), Wednesday, 12 March 2003 11:10 (twenty-two years ago)

Things I have learned about America from ILE and nowhere else:

1) The washing machine thing.
2) The tipping in pubs - I mean bars - thing.
3) The MOON CAKE thing!
4) The 'jumper' thing.

No one is gonna phase me when I want to do laundry, buy a drink, eat Easter candy or purchase leisurewear in the States!

― Archel (Archel), Wednesday, 12 March 2003 11:18 (twenty-two years ago)

is momus british ?

Momus is wandering scotch.

― Momus (Momus), Wednesday, 12 March 2003 11:44 (twenty-two years ago)

blend or single malt?

― Ed (dali), Wednesday, 12 March 2003 11:48 (twenty-two years ago)

Suntory

― Mooro (Mooro), Wednesday, 12 March 2003 13:29 (twenty-two years ago)

― Ed (dali), Wednesday, 12 March 2003 13:30 (twenty-two years ago)

3) The MOON CAKE thing!
No one is gonna phase me when I want to do laundry, buy a drink, eat Easter candy or purchase leisurewear in the States!
-- Archel

What's a Moon Cake? You mean Moon Pies, made in Chattanooga? Do you know about Goo-Goo Clusters?

― Jess Hill (jesshill), Wednesday, 12 March 2003 16:23 (twenty-two years ago)

Goo Goo Clusters? The old vaudeville star?

― oops (Oops), Wednesday, 12 March 2003 16:34 (twenty-two years ago)

Yeah MOON PIE! Haha I didn't learn so well after all...

― Archel (Archel), Wednesday, 12 March 2003 16:50 (twenty-two years ago)

S'all right...Moon Pies, they're microwavable and even more delicious!!

― Jess Hill (jesshill), Wednesday, 12 March 2003 18:07 (twenty-two years ago)

My English co-worker kills for Moon Pies. I think it may be what keeps him stateside.

― teeny (teeny), Wednesday, 12 March 2003 20:18 (twenty-two years ago)

The Goo-Goo Clusters are staples of the Grand Ole Opry. Backstage, a shot of Old Crow and a traditional peanut-goo-and-chocolate cluster go down right easy before one has to perform...especially if you're 104 years old with a 28-year-old for a wife, like former Opry regular Little Jimmy Dickens...they come in pecan for those who feel it's time to move out of the country...

Have a Goo-Goo! They're good!!

― Jess Hill (jesshill), Wednesday, 12 March 2003 20:36 (twenty-two years ago)

one month passes...

you are suspicious of clothes dryers. i never knew that before.

― Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Monday, 5 May 2003 04:26 (twenty-two years ago)

They don't like to post half as much as I originally thought. :-(

― Nicole (Nicole), Monday, 5 May 2003 04:29 (twenty-two years ago)

i am confident that it is eating them up inside

― Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Monday, 5 May 2003 04:33 (twenty-two years ago)

and tumbling their emotions into threadbare tatters

― Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Monday, 5 May 2003 13:20 (twenty-two years ago)

Foreigners! What have you learned most about the British from your time on ILE?

mmm.... some of dem/yo brits, apparently, ain't that enlightened 'bout european geography...

― t''t, Monday, 5 May 2003 15:18 (twenty-two years ago)

ten months pass...

Revive.

― Matt DC (Matt DC), Friday, 26 March 2004 12:58 (twenty-one years ago)

I quite dislike, the word, 'foreigner'.

― RJG (RJG), Friday, 26 March 2004 14:13 (twenty-one years ago)

they wanna know what love is, they want you to show them

is that so wrong?

― stevem (blueski), Friday, 26 March 2004 14:17 (twenty-one years ago)

check out my clause, dude.

I actually quite like, the word, 'foreigner', as a word (of letters), but not its use, as a word (of meaning).

― RJG (RJG), Friday, 26 March 2004 14:21 (twenty-one years ago)

Does anyone other than Brian Clough use the word 'foreigner' any more?

― Matt DC (Matt DC), Friday, 26 March 2004 14:22 (twenty-one years ago)

you think nick has changed his ways, in one year and sixteen days?

or he was being funny, in those days?

― RJG (RJG), Friday, 26 March 2004 14:24 (twenty-one years ago)

foreigner is not a xenophobic word

― stevem (blueski), Friday, 26 March 2004 14:26 (twenty-one years ago)

it's too relative.

― RJG (RJG), Friday, 26 March 2004 14:27 (twenty-one years ago)

Duh. RJG, you surprise me.

― N. (nickdastoor), Friday, 26 March 2004 15:15 (twenty-one years ago)

no, I don't.

― RJG (RJG), Friday, 26 March 2004 15:16 (twenty-one years ago)

it was a command

― stevem (blueski), Friday, 26 March 2004 15:19 (twenty-one years ago)

I prefer 'alien' to 'foreigner'. Acid for blood innit.

― Liz :x (Liz :x), Friday, 26 March 2004 15:30 (twenty-one years ago)

That's what I liked best about living in the US. I was a "resident alien". It said so on my green card. Like I was going to turn green and start spewing acidbreath at any minute or something.

― Psycho Kate (kate), Friday, 26 March 2004 15:31 (twenty-one years ago)

I wonder whether the 'alien' figures larger in US culture because the word has greater currency there. I means 'not us' as a general category, as opposed to here where it means green acid blooded thingy from outer space.

― Dave B (daveb), Friday, 26 March 2004 15:32 (twenty-one years ago)

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