I've been nagged by the thought that it actually was the real Marilyn Manson that I saw a few weeks ago geekily going to the purolator courier in the Atrium on Bay (snootyish office/shopping complex in downtown T.O.)because that's probably the last place on earth that I would expect such a celebrity sighting to happen, so I dismissed out of hand as an arrestingly casual lookalike in a long black coat, yet then I was thinking that all that nega-evidence adds up to it probably being the real Marilyn. anyway...

I love the part in tonight's episode where Kramer is dressed like a pimp. I wish I had a walking stick.

The best was in a later episode where they BROUGHT THE DANCE back. It was only two seconds, but I was practically incontinent.

Anyone who catches the dancing episode on tape for me (NTSC, please) will be my BEST FRIEND 4-EVA.

Two nights ago me and Ramon were sitting in a bar thinking about what we could do to make ourselves look more like pimps/rapists, and his first suggestion was we could walk with a limp, but I said fuck that, I've got a barrel (literally) full of canes (I kid you not). So expect the Clockwork Orange look next time you see us, minus the fake eyebrows and makeup and girly shit.

Hey, I don't think I've seen the reprise. There's a reason to live! Assume everyone has seen the reference at How To Dance Properly

Otherwise, what Mitch said.

Any hot chicks out there want to get bisy just let me know. I got it all . They call me "the Mutt" and with all that implies. And that ain't dirt in my eye.

Larry

I thought this said "...and with all my nipples". I have no clue why or what that could possibly imply but that's much better than what that said.

The Simpsons, conversely, are classic.

Also, Jerry's millions got him that 17 y.o. honey (who ended up dumping his ass, btw). Not the trainers. No way was it the trainers. Please god tell me it wasn't the trainers.

Elaine had the best hair ever in the later series.

Anyway, I want to hate this show, it's the type of cultural phenomenon that normally annoys me, but every time I stumble across a rerun I end up watching it and having some good laffs. Last night I saw the one where Elaine dates a mover but breaks up with him because of his stance on abortion. And George invites himself over to a family's house to watch their rented copy of Breakfast at Tiffany's because he didn't read the book for his study group. It was funny. I'll say classic.

BBC2 didin't treat these shows like the comedy gold they were (sticking them late evening etc WTF?!) whereas crap like friends and will and grace get prime time on C4 (OK the former was funny for the first two series).

crosspost: daddino doesn't rock anymore.

I HAVEN'T EVEN BEGUN TO ROCK YET!

I'm afraid of you.

George Constanza is a brilliant character. A recognizable, even sympathetic monster.

Witness this and this. As well as this, once in a while.

Also, I'm fairly sure I would love Larry Sanders, but I've never seen it because of the stupid fucking BBC.

But I do think it's a great show, and sometimes ridiculously funny. And I think the "nihilism" (but it's not that - it's a sympathetic portrait of failed humanity) is what makes it great. Curb Your Enthusiasm does this too, but too much so - we need some real humor and niceness along with the nasty stuff. Also, the particularly New York voice of the show. Complaining about the hackneyed plot lines is like complaining that Buffy has to kill a vampire every week (well, ok, maybe there's something to that).

It's not my personal favorite tv show - I like sentimental, yuppie-sensibility stuff like Mad About You and Northern Exposure, which I won't make greatness claims for. And It's not the greatest tv show ever - whatever that is, it's probably not a sitcom - but I think a good argument can be made for best sitcom of the last 25 years

I totally disagree with this. I've come to HATE the basic attitude of Seinfeld - I watch it every night, it's the only thing on TV in New Zealand - and Jerry's whole, 'My parents love me, aren't I adorable, you all love me, and I'm just gonna be a fucking bastard because I can' thing is really wearying after a while. Seinfeld doesn't even break a sweat. He's always as cool as a cucumber, looking at everyone else - looking at girls - and the sneer is never too far away. Larry David seems much humbler - he can hardly bear to look anyone else in the face, let alone laugh AT them. This makes 'Curb Your Enthusiasm' seem much, much nicer to me.

Seinfeld has ruined me for all other sitcoms: I can't watch any of them without getting bored. I think it's actually gotten better in syndication: the episodes I thought were lame first time around seem funnier to me now. There's also a tragic, hopeless undercurrent to the humor that's perfectly disguised by its breeziness, tho it's probably fatal to take Seinfeld too seriously.

Also, after watching it 53,000,000 times I think I've started to fancy Elaine a bit.

But I'm not entirely without complaint.

They truly should have found someone else to play Seinfeld. In a stellar
comedic cast he stood out as a rank amateur, often botching the
proceedings. The scripts stroke his ego shamelessly, pairing him with
an endless parade of beautiful women and sparing him the severest
discomfort. And his standup was horrible, an unintentional joke.

But he couldn't stop the show from being brilliant! Starting about
halfway through the second season, the writers were so great at
layering several absurd storylines, culminating in these chaotic
comedic orgies that can only be compared to end-of-episode
climaxes in _Fawlty Towers_. How come more sitcoms don't
have this format, instead of a boring linear string of
sometimes-funny wisecracks? Mindless jokes _Seinfeld_
decidedly IS NOT.

Thing is, the early episodes were pretty crappy - that's partly
why I think people don't like them, they got a bad taste in their
mouth early on and never gave it a second chance.

Also, the episodes are highly self-referential, so you have
to watch it from the opening credits, or half the jokes don't
make any sense whatever.

And woah, are there actually people named Shoshanna?
I know a Shoshanna and I thought that her name was a
bizzare hippie side effect.

Oh yeah, and the sight of a pimp Kramer being
arrested for assaulting a prostitute = one of the best
endings ever.

D-U-D garbage!!!!

Seriously, what is UP with all the Seinfeld hate??!!

(ominous music)

Ally with my right hand. N with my left.

the laughter has been sucked out of this thread.

I don't know, but there is something seriously wrong with anyone who can't see the utter genius of Seinfeld.

yeah, I know.

(even will and grace, i lied abt that upthread so as to look cool)

which is true: i don't think it's funny really

Seinfeld gets criticised for its nihilism because it verges on excessive depth - for America. (The characters try to do volunteer work and fail, Elaine campaigns for equal opportunities because big breasted women are favoured over her, people turn to Judaism 'for the jokes' - the pathos of the attempt towards something that circles back into bourgeois stasis is nearly voiced. But whereas on Seinfeld minor characters suffer, on 'Curb Your Enthusiasm' Larry David is the middle class child abuser, the fake Jew, the wife beater.)

GODLIKE GENIUS!

Perhaps if I watched it enough and could get into the rhythms, pick up the nuances (if there are rhythms to be gotten into and nuances to be picked up) and noticed the characters interacted with but ultimately transcended such carcicature, I'd like it better.

yes, Seinfeld is all about nuances and rhythms.

"staging and line delivery is better in 'W&G'"

The staging and line delivery (as well as the writing) are the main things that make Seinfeld so laugh-out-loud-able. Some of the funniest moments are based purely on the way one of the characters says something or a basic interaction (the other funniest moments come from an intricate and complicated script revealing itself).

Stan Brakhage loved this show but he had bad taste far as I can tell.

http://www.fredcamper.com/PF/Brakhage/hellitself2b.jpg

"Are you really gonna wear that thing?"

"All signs point to 'yes'".

(I actually work with a Neil, in accounting, and yes, we called him T-Bone for a while)

My fav line:
"I'm gone for two weeks and you turn my house into...into..Bourbon Street!"

http://wwwimage.cbs.com/primetime/king_of_queens/images/sub_bio_pic_jstiller.jpg

Will & Grace doesn't deserve to be mentioned in the same
thread, much less paragraph. It's just so cheap and
obvious, although the pill-popping secretary is vaguely entertaining.

Thanks to this thread, I blurted out, "It's the Andrea Doria."

Argh. crosspost.

I watch reruns of this show whenever I have the chance, seriously. I'll watch 2-3 episodes a day if I'm watching TV and there isn't an episode of Survivor or Temptation Island on.

Jerry himself is probably the weakest link, but I find his "bad" acting not even bothersome. He does add some classic lines like "I just had a bowl of Kix" and of course there's the whole "awthatsashame" sort of dismissive lack of caring tone that informs the whole show. It's George, Kramer and Elaine who make the show hum like a fine-tuned Beemer. Plus the classic support cast (George's parents, Jerry's parents, Uncle Leo, Newman, Puddy, the Rosses, Mr. Pitt, J. Peterman) -- just excellent, excellent casting where each actor is probably playing the role of their career.

My favorite show of all time would still have to be The Simpsons, but overexposure to the more classic episodes has left me really not wanting to re-watch those episodes much, but something about Seinfeld is different. It puts other "comedies" like the shite that ABC shows (dumbass shows with Jim Belushi, John Ritter, etc.) to shame, even with the wacky slap-bass keyboards, bad poofy Jerry hair, and the black jeans/white sneakers look.

WHY THE FUCK ISN'T IT ON VIDEO??????

enrique: apparently the cast members had been in some sort of dispute over royalties--it's supposed to be out on DVD soon though.

enrique I think the other cast members were jealous of seinfeld's creator/producer credit and the spectacular amounts of money he made from that

you are clearly wrong, and not only is EVERY simpsons episode watchable (even if they suck, which many do) the best were written by Conan O'Brien.

also Janeane Garofalo, who i love love love, appears as the interviewer in the episode where George and Jerry get accidentally ovrheard while pretending to be gay - "...not that there's anything wrong with that!"

i have downloaded several episodes as mpg through Limewire - i dare say through Kazaa or soulseek you can get many more.

Greatest TV Comedy like, ever.

That wasn't JG. She did appear in another episode as Jerry's dream girlfriend, though, who too loved cereal for lunch, dinner and in between.

But yeah, I'll definitely get it on dvd. I liked Comedian a whole lot. The process of putting together his new act was interesting (especially the bits where he blanked out completely), but seeing all the snippets just made me want to see the complete product. I remember thinking that the commentary track was very good, but I can't remember why. Maybe just because Jerry is a funny guy and Colin Quinn is funny as an idiot.

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We don't *need* commentary on Seinfeld, just give us all the episodes to watch when we want!

amateurist, wow. incredible wrongness.

i revived this thread to say that "bizarro jerry" must be top 3, easy. i just saw it again and realized that it features
1. bizarro jerry ("does he live underwater? is he black?")
2. man-hands ("there's a beach towel on the rack...")
3. kramer's fake 9-to-5 ("you know this is my crazy time of year!")
and
4. the meat packing plant turned secret model hangout fortress ("i guess the dj booth was over there, by the bonesaw").

god, unbelievable.

crossposts

i think you're in part right about this but "splendor" is the wrong word--it's just a slightly exaggerated parody of the meaningless things we find important. i mean people could be smug and watch seinfeld--but then i think they are missing the point, and it's not fair to judge something by its audience, esp a sitcom.

(also -10 million points for the slap bass)

Jerry/Larry is easily the best character on the show.

i think this was true once, back when a lot of the ideas within the show were stand up comedy material, but the sitcom style seemed to actually deify the shallowness it once parodied. i'm not sure sitcoms *have* to do that, just saying that "Seinfeld" did. To me that made it unlikeable and even undermined a sound basic premise - that the meaningless ticks people have really are intrinsically funny.

"jerry seinfeld was always the worst part of seinfeld."

OTM, quite.

" The show could almost do completely without Jerry. "

COMPLETELY FUCKING INSANE.

Youre right, hes not the straight man. But he is completely necessary, he is the equilibrium between George/Neroutic and Kramer/Psychotic. Im not as religious about the show as most people, but the Sienfeld IS classic, no question about it, lock thread, give it up, goodnight.

he's not merely a straight man, tho he is that. well, how does a straight man function? is he a stand in for the audience? a measure of normalcy with which we can identify?

if that's the case i think jerry is something slightly different--think of the "Even Stephen" espisode where everything in Jerry's life balances out--he's completely invincible! no emotions, not a care in the world, completely childish in a sense. those are the best espisodes. that sort of cheerful nihilism (almost a kind of zen!) makes him a pretty unique character because he is totally devoid of "conflicts"--even his clean freak stuff is meant to remove him from us once again, he can't even stand to be around humanity. whenever, esp in the later episodes, jerry becomes more human it's not as convincing, and is probably the source of people complaining about him being a dead weight.

So one for the time capsule, but I doubt I'll ever rent the DVDs.

i want this framed and on my wall:

http://img398.imageshack.us/img398/4333/seinfelds6e48sl.jpg

Was a little disappointed with the finales but hey ho.

I think my particular favourite episode would have to be the Merv Griffin show, all the main characters have great plotlines in this one I thought - Jerry's obsession with his girlfriends toys, George and his pigeon problem, Elaine and the sidler, and of course Kramer pretending to host a chat show is just the greatest thing I've ever seen. When he plays the music tape for George's entrance. Hilarious!

ewww!

Classic.

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OMFG I made this connection only recently too after watching this episode several times. GENIUS!

Jay Peterman is by far the funniest sub character ever created in the history of the earth. Costanza obv wins the main prize.

Heh heh heh, yep! I'm not sure if my wife was more amused at making the abortion/pizza connection or the look on my face, which as she describes it was a combination of being impressed with the writing and pissed-off that I didn't figure it out after all these years. :-|

total otm

Torrent of all episodes of Seinfeld ever was at 19.8% when I left for work this morning.

right up to this point, it's the classic sitcom setup, right out of "the honeymooners," and as old as shakespeare.

but now comes the twist: the boss proposes an utterly condescending, mean-spirited toast to "our shrimpy little friend here" whose "antics we've always enjoyed," and so on. george's face freezes in a moment of self-loathing and perverse glee, and he blurts out: "DRINK UP!"

X-post

And surely Larry is a combination of Jerry and George?

Once you turn on Roz Chast, you can never go back. What used to be a little funny or insightful is suddenly insipid and played-out. My guess is that this occurs within the first year of a subscription to the New Yorker.
-- patita (muzee...), October 12th, 2006 10:04 AM. (later)

It pretty much describes how I feel about Seinfeld in 2006 (minus the New Yorker part). I loved this show madly, but in my view it isn't funny 85-90% of the times that it was in the 90's. Maybe it just hasn't aged well in my view.

"year"

I just fucking love George to bits. Jason Alexander has done a wonderful job of making such a spiteful hated little man into someone you can't take your eyes off watching.

Here's my list of favourite George moments:

Leaving his car parked in the Yankee stadium, to give the illusion to his superiors that he's working all hours.

His 'vertical leap' boast

his 'reverse parking' boast

his 'great parking space' boast, in the hospital visiting the new born babies parents "are you sure the baby wouldn't like to see the parking spot?"

pretending to be handicapped

Slipping the mickey into his bosses drink

cheating on his iq test by slipping his paper out the window to elaine

cheating on his latvian orthodox test, writing notes on his arm

again by writing crib notes on his arm, learning the 'move'

his answering machine, the whole episode George is avoiding his girlfriend because he thinks she wants to split up with him, he wants to take her to a works ball. his theory, if she can't find him, she can't break up with him.

eating the half eaten chocolate eclair out the bin.

taking his shirt off when he goes to the bathroom

When George and Susan are shopping for wedding invitations, the shop assistant brings out a huge catalogue and states "the more expensive ones are at the front". George grabs the catalogue and immediately flings it open from the back.

That whole Susan dieing episode, at the end. crazy

leaving a tape recording the Foundation meeting, due to paranoia that they're accusing him of killing Susan

The worlds collide episode, George losing it about Elaine wanting to be friends with Susan. Elaine rings up and George is reluctant to hand the phone over to Susan.

George persistantly trying to prevent the couple from stealing his idea about calling a child 'Seven', even to the point of badgering the mother when she's in labour. "I'm a friend of the mother, I'm having sex with her cousin"

Buying Elaine the damaged jumper, with the red dot on, because it was cheap

Walking out on a high note. George realises that once he's made a huge funny in his office meetings he just ends up saying something dumb soon after. So he develops a habit of just getting up and leaving after delivering a good joke. Particular funny when he performs this routine in Jerry's apartment.

pretending to look angry to create the illusion he's busy at work

reluctantly giving his debit card code out to save a mans life.

Georges 'man love' for Jerry.

Georges 'man crush' for Elaines 'cool' rush-junkie boyfriend.

wanting to appear to be the funniest member of the group for his new girlfriend, making jerry act depressed.

when he taunts the shackled prisoner guy in the magazine shop, "maybe I'll read it in the park tomorrow, it's supposed to be a beautiful day!"

His 'fire escape' involving knocking down old ladies and children to get out first. and then his amazing reasoning to everyone afterwards. Jerry's reaction in the coffee shop later "perhaps she'll see things differently once she's released from the burns unit".

The whole marriage thing, regretting it immediately and spending episode after episode trying to postpone it. "When are you getting married?", Susan: "June", George: "Late June"

When Jerry asks him to pretend he doesn't know him in The Race episode, they chat like they've just met after five years and George goes into lie overload. Ends up almost walking away without getting to the point of why they're lieing in the first place.

In the car dealer shop, George refuses to trust any of the salesmen and OMG it's just so fucking funny.

Jerry: "It's a perfect plan. So inspired. So devious. Yet so simple."
George: "This is what I do"

Other George highlights:

"The sea was angry that day my friends... like an old man trying to send back soup in a deli" from The Marine Biologist.

"A simple joke, from a simple man," he tells Jerry in The Abstinence, in which he's turning into a genius because he's 'not getting any', and ponders the idea that maybe he should just never have sex again, 'maybe I can serve the world better this way'.

But the most brilliant, mindblowing George episode for me is The Opposite, when he finds his 'religion' in ignoring everything his instinct ever told him, and to do the opposite. "Hi... my name is George, I'm unemployed and I live with my parents."

Oh and Dr. Carl Sagan completely OTM, it keeps me going as well, I cannot get enough.

Jerry: "All right, you're on a desert island. You can bring five books. Which five do you take?"
George: "I gotta read five books?"
Jerry: "All right, one. Come on!"
George: "Oh, I got it. Three Musketeers."
Jerry: "You've read that?"
George: "No, I'm saving it for the island."
Jerry: "Let's start this whole thing over. Best Chamberlain: Wilt, Richard, or Neville?"
George: "For the desert island?"
Jerry: "OK."
George: "Richard."
Jerry: "You know, he was in The Three Musketeers."
George: "Exactly. Save me from having to read the book."

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IuHcNkLo8Ok

this kid's videos are an absolute goldmine of lols.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8pkfPDPKfpg&feature=related

I didn't lol till the end credits.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l4rd7I0Q75o

I don't know what it has to do with Seinfeld but it sure is funky.

Seinfeld hate is insane. What else do you hate? Christmas? Batman? Love?

http://www.miamiherald.com/news/miami-dade/story/823440.html

there was a festivus set-up in DC when i was there this weekend.

By all that is holy, Seinfeld should be entirely unwatchable. The acting is rather awful and overdrawn. The writing is peculiar, but hardly great. I still wonder why it is moderately amusing. I suspect it may have something to do with the strange medium of television, or else the cuteness of Elaine.

Seinfeld succeeds because everyone secretly identifies with George.

"everyone"

i dont identify with him as much as want to be him

everything else about seinfeld>>>>>>>cuteness of elaine

and I will admit, elaine is damn cute

this might be another case of british vs. american tastes in humor.

the top rated british sitcoms of all time feature men in frilly shirts with stupid accents going all king george this, and fish and chips that. of curse they wouldn't get seinfeld

Two nations divided by uncommon sitcoms?

the british seinfeld:

this was supposed to be the summer of george

Post-Arrested Development/It's Always Sunny In Philadelphia this show doesn't really grab me by the booboo like it once did.

One feels compelled to note the outstanding solo careers of all the principal actors after leaving this show. Bee Movie, anyone?

in britain its the summer of king george

I, II, or III?

whatever one we took ourselves from you guys from

From us Oregonians?? Or were you thinking something else?

Oh, I thought you were British. Who cares about you then

My mother, sweet old lady that she is.

Jesus, or so I heard.

Everyone I owe money to.

The makers of laxatives.

hayy burt i was thinking slash hoping maybe you could talk about how claxxxic nyc shows like seinfeld have influenced today's metro area hipter youth and what girls who wear mid-90s blazers to shows are like. other topics for your consideration: how much realer seinfeld is than friends, anti-semitism in america

i think this show is classic btw

so many people so wrong on this thread

Almost every britisher I know who has seen this show loves it. The problem is a lot of them haven't seen it. It was shunted around the schedules, usually late on BBC2. If it had a C4 8pm friday slot (or something) we wouldn't even be having this debate.

there's an awful lot of shouting in the earlier seasons isn't there.

shouting and silence

seinfeld at its peak: classic

last two seasons: terrible

I prefer Curb Your Enthusiasm because it has cursing and no annoying laughtrack. Man I fucking hate laughtrack. But Seinfeld was pretty damn classic, yes.

Last two seasons were terrible. Larry David picking up the prostitute just so he can drive in the carpool lane was funnier than every episode of the last two seasons of Seinfeld put together.

wasn't seinfeld taped in front of an actual audience, hence actual laughter (as opposed to a 'laugh track', '60s sitcom style)?

That's weird, I just had a conversation earlier tonight about whether or not Seinfeld was taped in front of an audience.

i was playing the Seinfeld trivia game tonight.

was there a question about whether or not seinfeld was taped in front of an audience?

that one didn't come up.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UTSdUOC8Kac

Dud.

xpost. Heavy, heavy lols.

also kind of weird, I watched an episode of Family Guy on Saturday night where Patrick Stewart mentions the McDLT and it was the first time I'd ever heard of it. Now this is the second time I ever heard of it. The idea is quite puzzling to me. I've never had a big mac and thought, "shit, I wish the vegetables on this were cooler". I've thought "shit I wish the meat on this was more edible" but that's about it.

congratulations, you have debunked a long-defunct hamburger idea from the 1980s.

:*-(

We didn't have them in Britain and even if we did I'm too young. Not trying to set McDonalds to rights retroactively from 20 years in the future. Just found it a bit quizzical is all.

they don't ever drink on seinfeld

they eat instead

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cS4QGAtrCk8

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pgXAt_gstcs

Seinfeld is kind of Cheers in a diner (and an apartment) so yeah not as much drinking. i'm sure if they actually followed Jerry's life as a comedian outside of occasional stand-up segments more than a handful of times that wouldn't have been the case.

schnapps is the key to elaine's or jerry's lockbox tho

good call

http://www.youtube.com/watch%3Fv%3DSkCKxKAtCQs

forgot about kramer

forgot about kray

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5xi4O1yi6b0

I think my particular favourite episode would have to be the Merv Griffin show,

Just watched this episode the other day, I couldn't breath with laughing. Seriously one of the all time best ones.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mxhs-O_9BLc

who's dancin?

huh?

you want me to get it started? alright, i'll get it started

also in that one they get a woman drunk to play with her toys

xp

JERRY: I didn't know she had a pony. How was I to know she had a pony? Who figures an immigrant's going to have a pony? Do you know what the odds are on that? I mean, in all the pictures I saw of immigrants on boats coming into New York harbor, I never saw one of them sitting on a pony. Why would anybody come here if they had a pony? Who leaves a country packed with ponies to come to a non-pony country? It doesn't make sense!.. am I wrong?

I might be one of those people who references Seinfeld way too often.

would anyone be interested in polling the seinfeld seasons? like, each season for best episode? or would it make ile too much like ilm?

i would participate in these threads with joy tbh. give me an excuse to re-watch eps i don't remember. i love seinfeld so much.

i would enjoy this v much too but i don't want to turn into clog ile after complaining about ilm being clogged!

"I'm down baby! Put me down!"

Do it Jordan! :)

http://aycu04.webshots.com/image/20003/2005827915167364221_rs.jpg

big salad episode is my favorite episode of all time

imagine that... her taking credit for your big salad

- big salad
- kramer & steven dennison & the murder of the drycleaner
- newman dumped the girl that jerry is dating
- elaine being stalked by the mechanical pencil guy

Anybody know what kind of computer Seinfeld has in the episode where Lloyd and George are competing to sell uh... computers out of the garage? When kramer makes a front porch in the hall. It was strange looking and I'm very curious.

ah the you mean the computer that looks like a flat folding tablet screen with a strange large empty area underneath the screen. erm i dunno

was it this?

http://www.marialanger.com/wp-content/images/macosvqs/TAM.jpg

- newman dumped the girl that jerry is dating

elaine: maybe there's more to newman than meets the eye?
jerry: no -- there's less

Yes Ste, thank you! What an odd thing that is.

Jerry: All I could think of was when I was looking at her face was; Newman found this unacceptable.

:-)

jerry's twitter account got hacked? https://twitter.com/jerry_seinfeld

it's good to know me and jerry both follow john mayer

Don Tyson, America's Chicken King, has died. Seinfeld fans will know him best as Don Tyler, head of Tyler Chicken. Alcoholic Chicken!

Classic; but I never found the characters funny. The situations, yes, Kramer, no.

Kramer is awful

WHAT. Horseshit....Kramer and George top two characters on the show. Come on, Kramer modeling for Calvin Klein "his buttocks are sublime".

I have to say the same for the rest of the cast, tho. I always thought Jerry was rude, pretentious and annoying; George is one-dimensionally pathetic... Elaine wasn't so bad. Like I said, the situations and ordeals they were given were ingenious but I was never satisfied with the way they handled them nor and never found their dialog particularly funny.

I just loved the "Oh yeah! That happens/I think that/all the time" (like the age old: does she have one dress, or dozens of the same dress question)situations, and what mostly motivated me to watch another episode if my grammar isn't totally off by this far in the sentence.

the fuck kinda revive is this

i think the show should have been called Costanza...because i always found jerry the most useless of all the characters.

The Opposite = best episode of an American sitcom possibly *ever*?

This behind the scenes doc kicked off a big Seinfeld revival for me a year or so back:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zZtu2WBO48U

<3 <3 <3 <3 <3

I always thought Jerry was rude, pretentious and annoying; George is one-dimensionally pathetic

isn't this the point of the characters (and the show!) rather than a flaw?

and not sure what multi-dimensionally pathetic would even entail!

yeah "The Opposite" is one of the best things ever

xxxp

even multiverse george is pathetic?

i kind of want to see a version of hamlet where wayne knight plays everyone.

It's weird how much of my generation (born in the mid 80s) have gotten into this show 6-7 years after it ended (myself included), considering most of us hated it when it was on. It's one of the few sitcoms that most teenagers (esp. those aged 13-16) wouldn't be able to understand why it was so funny.

Favorite lines from Seinfeld?

They were showing the puffy shirt episode in syndication last night, which I believe was my original apotheosis moment with Seinfeld (not only the soft talker and the shirt, but George's hand modeling career).

This is probably one of the funniest shows ever created.

claaaaassic

george is the best character, btw. never understood why this wasn't bigger in the uk.

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i've been enjoying the episode write-ups on the av club

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ve been enjoying the episode write-ups on the av club

― bows don't kill people, arrows do (Jordan), Thursday, January 6, 2011 3:23 PM (31 seconds ago) Bookmark

I read that a lot... it isn't distributed outside of Denver & Chicago, is it?

IMO the hidden strength of the show for me is the minor characters. Newman especially, but also George's parents, Puddy, Uncle Leo, Peterman, Susan...all great supporting roles. The show was great no matter who was on the screen. Even most of the extras/one-episode characters were great.

the paper version of the onion is still around in madison and milwaukee, not sure where else (it's all online obv.)

It's weird how much of my generation (born in the mid 80s) have gotten into this show 6-7 years after it ended (myself included), considering most of us hated it when it was on. It's one of the few sitcoms that most teenagers (esp. those aged 13-16) wouldn't be able to understand why it was so funny.

― frogbs, Thursday, January 6, 2011 2:03 PM (2 hours ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

This. I only got into watching it after I saw the first season of Curb Your Enthusiasm.

^coming from the aforementioned GENERATION X (*arms cross*) most dudes I know were watching this in middle-school, under influence of their parents. I guess it's also the result of going being friends with a lot of Jewish kids as well.

yeah I'm gen x too I guess, I just didn't have TV growing up

George's parents, his dad especially, make me lose my shit every time they are on screen.

spanish teacher of mine in high-school used to call me "senor puddy" b/c apparently i'm a doppleganger for the dude - husky, brawny, moronic type. i didn't really realize how insulting it actually kinda was til i started watching the series; but the name-calling was kinda mutual amongst everyone in the class.

I got into the show in 8th grade, during its second (?) season. I was a fairly indiscriminate fan of sitcoms at the time, but Seinfeld's particular brand of humor did speak to me.

I can't see, or really appreciate, this objectively still because it was so omnipresent and has always been on syndication since it left the air. So it's like a 90s song that you can't judge because you don't have fresh ears for it.

Don't understand? ^ I feel the issues they pose in each and every episode are kinda those things that are going to be forever relevant to anything post-90's.

big show for me while it was on, remember watching the final episode with friends the night I was leaving college for the summer after my freshman year and flying to visit my family in Hong Kong

No, I understand it and enjoy it, but it's that I a lot of episodes when I was younger -- maybe it's just me personally. I guess it'd be like if you were born in the 70s, had heard the Beatles since you were born, and there comes a certain point where you became spoiled and almost dismiss their work in favor of other pop that isn't as familiar, but then later you can hear it again.

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I had seen glimpses of, say, the Soup Nazi episode or the "Not that there's anything wrong with that!" episode, but I was still pretty new to the show when I bought the Seinfeld complete DVD set a couple months ago. It's now my favorite show of all time. I am absolutely obsessed. Even the not-so-great ones like "The Blood" and "The Dog" still have their moments. I also give this show an enormous amount of credit for quitting when it was time to quit, rather than sticking around forever and tarnishing their legacy and turning into The Simpsons.

Why did everyone hate the final episode? Surely the fans had a better reason to moan than "Oh I didn't want to see our heroes get thrown into the slammer!" Whatever. I roffled. "Now! It is Babu's turn to mock! They're very very bad people!" (plus the finger thing) Classic!

Interesting (but not all that suprising, really) to read that Seinfeld was a flop in the UK.

No, I understand it and enjoy it

Oops, sorry, my short-script way of writing tends to confuse people. I meant *I* don't understand - I wasn't questioning whether you understood the series or whatever. But I can kinda see what you're talking about now.

My wife and I gave up sugar/caffeine/meat/dairy/booze for a week and it's made her super focused and smart and turned me into a complete idiot - the past few days have been a series of jokes about her learning to speak Portuguese and me clapping happily about shiny spinning things, ala George and Elaine when they both gave up sex.

I totally loved this show, then watched way too much of it when it was constantly on reruns and we only had antenna TV and I got so sick of it. But it's been long enough that I actually want to watch it again.

It's weird how much of my generation (born in the mid 80s) have gotten into this show 6-7 years after it ended (myself included), considering most of us hated it when it was on. It's one of the few sitcoms that most teenagers (esp. those aged 13-16) wouldn't be able to understand why it was so funny.

― frogbs, Thursday, January 6, 2011 2:03 PM (2 hours ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

i was born in '81, and enjoyed it from about the age of 13/14 when they started showing it on bbc 2 in the evenings. it did take me a while to get into it though, didn't really get it at first. although NOBODY else in my entire school as far as i know watched the show. either never seen it, or just didn't get the humour.

It wasn't really a flop in the UK. On terrestrial TV it was only really aired late at night (around 11pm) on BBC2 midweek, and never really promoted.

It got a cult following, and it became a cliche to moan about how shabbily the BBC treated it. I once heard that it was because Alan Yentob, then the controller of BBC2, just didn't like it.

If it had had a 9 or 10pm slot on Fridays on Channel 4, which was the classic slot for US sitcoms, I suspect it would have been a hit.

i'm not sure. even most people i know who like "curb" have never really gotten into it. i can only think of one other person i know irl who's a fan.

Yeah only time I saw it,being a young child at the time,was when I had the flu and so was allowed to have telly on that late. I remember finding it funny but not getting a lot of it,the sponges for instance.

Yeah I know hardly anyone who watches it yet know plenty who watch curb.

i'm always flabbergasted by US sitcom literacy when UK sitcom literacy in America usually stops at "Are You Being Served"

Most of my friends in Glasgow were fans. Odd.

Xp. Not really that surprising surely? Majority of films at the cinema are american and tv,and sitcoms most of all,is done a lot better in america.

"Americans make the BEST shit sandwiches!"

if that metallica song, "sad but true", was a gif, I'd post it right here.

It's weird how much of my generation (born in the mid 80s) have gotten into this show 6-7 years after it ended (myself included), considering most of us hated it when it was on. It's one of the few sitcoms that most teenagers (esp. those aged 13-16) wouldn't be able to understand why it was so funny.

― frogbs, Thursday, January 6, 2011 3:03 PM (4 hours ago) Bookmark

are you kidding i was watching the shit out of seinfeld when i was 11... it was pretty much the comedic landmark of my early-mid teens

I wouldn't say British sitcoms are widely popular in the US but there's definitely a strong cult audience. I discovered Father Ted through my local video store when I lived in Richmond, Va., you can find the ILX thread where lots of American posters were sure the U.S. "Office" wouldn't live up to the UK "Office," etc.

father ted is probs my fave sitcom, seinfeld is top 5 for sure, tho.

i remember when the finale aired i was in like 7th grade and i tried bringing it up to classmates and they were all 'huh?'

Is there a UK version of seinfeld? I always thought of coupling as a UK version of friends (similarly insipid but about 1000x more cleverly written).

http://www.sitcom.co.uk/sitcoms/baddiels_syndrome.shtml

alan yentob otm imo

A lot of the appeal of Seinfeld comes from New York attitudes & culture. It's not going to translate well to pish-posh London.

But somehow appealed to the rest of america?

I didn't say it was exclusively New Yorker affair, but it was definitely there. I remember the episode about locks, in which everybody knew the make and model number of their locks and what was the latest kind or whatever - and this wasn't part of the joke.

although NOBODY else in my entire school as far as i know watched the show. either never seen it, or just didn't get the humour.

Ha, I totally bonded with a girl in 9th grade b/c she was the only other person I knew who watched it. (She was also the only Jewish person I knew.) That started to change about a year later -- not sure whether because my peer group was getting older or because the show had started to attract more fans across the board.

i think the jewish connection is otm. all my peers and i watched this really from like 5th grade and on (went to an all jewish school)

I loved Seinfeld when it was on but it was always second to NewsRadio IMO. I haven't watched it much since it ended but I've definitely seen every episode multiple times. Some of the living-in-NYC jokes of course fell flat to me, but the show had a lot more than just "lol new york!" going for it.

I have never been able to enjoy Curb Your Enthus. though.

And its definitely a cultural touchstone for Millennials so I don't know wtf this "my generation hated it" shit is all about...

It took me years to discover that Seinfeld was absolute fucking genius. I think what did it for me was watching it on an acid comedown. Specifically, this scene had me in absolute hysterics:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BurZnaBas6U

ah, maybe that needs to be contextualized to understand.

LOL just write-it-off!! A classic bit!

According to the "making of" documentary that comes with the season one DVD's, all the major networks turned down the pilot in part because the humor was "too Jewish." WTF does that even mean?

completely irrelevant, yet relevant:

Journalist/critic Frank Lovece in Newsday contrasted the humor tradition of Groening's two series, finding that, "The Simpsons echoes the strains of American-Irish vaudeville humor — the beer-soaked, sneaking-in-late-while-the-wife's-asleep comedy of Harrigan and Hart, McNulty and Murray, the Four Cohans (which, yes, included George M.) and countless others: knockabout yet sentimental, and ultimately about the bonds of blood family. Futurama, conversely, stems from Jewish-American humor, and not just in the obvious archetype of Dr. Zoidberg. From vaudeville to the Catskills to Woody Allen, it's that distinctly rueful humor built to ward away everything from despair to petty annoyance — the 'You gotta do what you gotta do' philosophy that helps the 'Futurama' characters cope in a mega-corporate world where the little guy is essentially powerless".[32] Animation maven Jerry Beck concurred: "I'm Jewish, and I know what you're saying. Fry has that [type of humor], Dr. Zoidberg, all the [vocal artist] Billy West characters. I see it. The bottom line is, the producers are trying to make sure the shows are completely different entities".[32]

ok hold on, lemme give you the gift of indentation:

Journalist/critic Frank Lovece in Newsday contrasted the humor tradition of Groening's two series, finding that, "The Simpsons echoes the strains of American-Irish vaudeville humor — the beer-soaked, sneaking-in-late-while-the-wife's-asleep comedy of Harrigan and Hart, McNulty and Murray, the Four Cohans (which, yes, included George M.) and countless others: knockabout yet sentimental, and ultimately about the bonds of blood family.

Futurama, conversely, stems from Jewish-American humor, and not just in the obvious archetype of Dr. Zoidberg. From vaudeville to the Catskills to Woody Allen, it's that distinctly rueful humor built to ward away everything from despair to petty annoyance — the 'You gotta do what you gotta do' philosophy that helps the 'Futurama' characters cope in a mega-corporate world where the little guy is essentially powerless".[32]

Animation maven Jerry Beck concurred: "I'm Jewish, and I know what you're saying. Fry has that [type of humor], Dr. Zoidberg, all the [vocal artist] Billy West characters. I see it. The bottom line is, the producers are trying to make sure the shows are completely different entities".[32]

triple post, but "petty annoyance" stands out most. 95% of seinfeld episodes are about trivialities and making an extremely huge deal about them.

I was watching seinfeld pretty much from almost the beginning (first episode I remember seeing that made an impression on me was when George tried to poison his boss). I was 13 at the time (and non-jewish and not a new yorker) and it quickly became my second favorite show after the Simpsons, though I'm sure a lot of the humor went right over my head. So I don't really understand why people think teenagers wouldn't get this show.

If I remember correctly, the reason I started watching it in the first place was because it played immediately following Night Court.

I remember being a fresman in HS and this dorky friend of mine kept asking me if I was watching this new show 'Seinfeld' and how it was so funny. I think it was a year before I actually saw an episode. But this show is epic and should easily win this poll!

it played immediately following Night Court.

My recollection was it was Unsolved Mysteries.

So I don't really understand why people think teenagers wouldn't get this show.

My three best friends in high school were fucking obsessed with this show and talked about it incessantly. I was the only one who didn't think it was exceptional-- maybe because it was too popular or something stupid like that. Boy, I really came around a decade-and-a-half later.

i actually remember when it was the seinfeld chronicles --i think i was in jr high & watched a shit ton of television & i was recommending it to my parents friends

I thought the first two seasons were kind of weak. I don't think this show would have survived into its maturity in the current cutthroat climate of network television.

I think the first two seasons look weak now, but at the time I thought they were incredible. This was just on a whole other level compared to most sitcoms at the time.

most dudes I know were watching this in middle-school, under influence of their parents

that was kind of my case. mom got really into it around '94-'95 when i was in 5th grade. followed the last few seasons and watched the hell out of the re-runs. i know and love Seinfeld pretty thoroughly.

Well I'm not saying that teenagers in general wouldn't like it. High school students, I understand. When the last two seasons of Seinfeld were aired, I was 12-13 and thought the show was boring and couldn't understand what was supposed to be so funny about it. My parents watched it all the time. The "final episode" hysteria was huge. On the other hand, I did enjoy pretty much all the other sitcoms that were big ...Cosby, Home Improvement, Fresh Prince, etc. etc. Obviously your results may vary but nobody in my age group that I know ever liked the show when it aired, but in the last few years I'm seeing a huge wave of obsession over this show, something I've never really seen before. It's like if there was a sudden revival of interest in Arrested Development in 6-7 years from people who will then be in their early 20's. Looking back, it totally makes sense. A lot of the jokes are character based and deal with subtle social interactions and sex, stuff the average 13 year old knows nothing about.

aside from Jerry Seinfeld's shoes, I think it's aged quite well.

I still find it odd people are still going on about Seinfeld's finale and yet seem relatively at ease about the scam that was Lost's. Like, I'm surprised no 4chan hackers or whatever sort took to arms and hacked into Damon Lindelof's...whatever thing.

I feel a lot like Cunga - in the US this show just became part of the fabric and furniture of life in the late 90s. There were reruns EVERY DAY, several times a day, for years and years after the last episode aired.

as bad as the seinfeld finale was, it was nowhere near as bad as the lost finale, which most Lost fans are mostly just trying to erase from their memory

of course, now I'm imagining a Seinfeld finale where they figure out that they're in purgatory and have been dead all along

I didn't the Seinfeld finale was bad at all. It was poking fun at the inherent ridiculousness of the show's premise.

I can kind of understand the obsession with the fashion sense at the top of the thread. When I finally started getting into the re-runs I was almost fascinated and distracted by how plain all the characters were for people who lived in NYC. Not saying people like that don't exist in NYC, but they just seemed SO regular. Obviously if it was intentional it was so the show wouldn't alienate any viewers... just my theory.

it's not a really moving or cathartic finale (like maybe MASH or Friends or ST:TNG which resolve major storylines), but i think it certainly holds its own against like Bob Newhart or St. Elsewhere for shticky conclusions and even better than St. Elsewhere where the finale didn't really fit the tone of the show it def fit Seinfeld's tone to have an irreverent take on the show finale. If it were any better an episode it wouldn't be that good. Were Elaine and Jerry going to finally become a couple again? Obv not.

I was almost fascinated and distracted by how plain all the characters were for people who lived in NYC

As the series progressed they got much slicker, especially Elaine. I think part of it was fashion - the early 90s were still very much the 80s - but also part of it was higher budgets and a richer cast.

..and the general cult of affluence which took hold in the 90s, especially in New York.

i still watch the re-runs, they are broadcast on tnt and fox here.

tbs

I was really really into this show from about the beginning, which would mean i must have started watching it around 10 or at the latest right before i became a teenager. I'd never been to New York or known any Jews but it was still LOLtastic to me. I think it speaks to the success of the show that you can make something a 13-year-old kid will find fucking hilarious, even if he doesn't understand half of it. I don't remember not getting any parts of the show, but that is probably because it was so funny and i was laughing so consistently that even if i did miss something, it didnt affect my enjoyment one bit.

I think the only other show i looked forward to was the Simpsons, which kinda makes sense. Both are relentlessly witty and somewhat bitter, and both shows exuded a joyful surrealism that somehow felt more real than any watered-down traditional sitcom could hope to.

A friend of mine made this interesting observation about Seinfeld: It's the one show where at the end of every episode, no one comes out better and everyone pretty much comes out worse. Their associations with each other never help each other, and only serve to drag them all down further. Nothing ever works out, and all their lives end up sucking.

No lessons, no hugs.

Two shows that came close to that: Larry Sanders and (surprisingly) Cheers. People often behave creepily on Larry Sanders, and only on rare occasions would the show cross the line into pathos (sometimes brilliantly). Cheers had a habit of going right up to the line where things turn maudlin, then there'd be a joke to undercut everything. They crossed the line, too, but far less often than most pre-Seinfeld sitcoms; I thought of it almost as a precursor to Seinfeld in that regard.

there are lots of shows like that now - It's Always Sunny in Philadelphia, for one. but yeah it was original at the time.

The structure/characters/feel of It's Always Sunny always make me think of Seinfeld if all the characters were even less empathetic and stupider

I just hope Always Sunny will never have to forever live in the shadow of Seinfeld, written off in pop-culture lit by nostalgia fetishist whom find it heresay that something so well liked could actually be not that good. See videogame phenomenon: Halo.

I assumed this revive was due to the death of an actor who played some character Sid Fields on an episode, obv named after the character/actor/writer from David & Seinfeld's fave The Abbott & Costello Show. (Fields was their apoplectic landlord.)

re: sunny, huh?
1. popularity is a pretty good indicator of crap (see weekly TV ratings)
2. Always Sunny isn't that popular (see weekly TV ratings)

Their getting short shrift from critical attention is more likely that it isn't popular enough, no matter how many dick towels they sold.

Morbs, I don't remember that guy from Seinfeld, but I just watched a West Wing episode a few days ago that he was in. Dude got steady work.

Looked at a picture of Fields and recognized him immediately as the ornery old guy who owned all the LPs that Kramer and Newman tried to sell.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wE_WXM93WdU

so

do beckham and posh watch Seinfeld?

yes

idgi

its just a comical misunderstanding

Oh god I thought our Hannah was joking about her being called 7???

Ohhh really? Seven?!

harper seven

Hannah told me first thing this morning when I was half asleep and I thought the kid was called Harper and was 7 pounds something

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NRUdaWZ4FN0

Would've preferred Mug Beckham tbh

Missed a chance to go with Mulva imo

^^^I always found it curious that Jerry never considered "Regina" as a plausible name in that episode

Posh and Becks were beaten to the name by Andre 3000 and Erykah Badu, anyway.

god dammit Myonga i've wondered for years what the actual name was but i think you've cracked it

i think the actual name was 'dolores'

Yeah, I was gonna say.

don't remember that bit

does that rhyme in a New York accent?

it rhymes when i say it in my head?!

its the tag to that episode fwiw - he sticks his head out of his window and sorta ruefully shouts 'DOLORES!' at her after shes presumably stormed out

oh god yeah now i remember

iirc they never had a name for her during the show, but as it was being taped they asked the audience what they thought it should be and some woman came up w/ Dolores

haha i didnt know that! i do think that dolores is a better joke than regina: sneakier and dirtier but still obvious enough once he shouts it

yeh dolores is better really. impressed i cd forget something like that for years

Idgi

dolores/clitoris

iirc, Jerry was with a girl and he couldn't remember her name, she told him it rhymed with a part of a woman's body, so he spent the episode trying to guess a female name that rhymed with a body part. at the end of the episode, after she storms out in disgust, he throws open his window and yells "Dolores"

I never got that. They don't even approach rhyming in my head.

It always kind of bugged me because it only rhymes if you pronounce clitoris a certain way which I think is the less common way of doing so. I don't pronounce it like that and that pronunciation sounds strange to me even though I think both are technically correct.

Weird because I feel like 90% of the time I've heard someone say it, its the way that rhymes with Dolores.

i think they took some "artistic license"

still p funny if you ask me

Wait, maybe not, maybe only like 65%. The more I keep trying out both in my head, the more confused I get as to which way I more often hear it.

^^^I always found it curious that Jerry never considered "Regina" as a plausible name in that episode

― Myonga Vön Bontee, Monday, July 11, 2011 1:21 PM (40 minutes ago) Bookmark

Americans pronounce Regina as Regeena so that wouldn't have worked.

Yeah, I've heard both. Webster's 11th has both as well, but CLIT-or-is is listed first.

Weird because I feel like 90% of the time I've heard someone say it, its the way that rhymes with Dolores.

I would argue that this is probably in large part due to the episode!

yeah i've literally never heard anyone in my life say "regina" to rhyme w/ "vagina"

Never been to Saskatchewan?

one of the joys of sharing a small office is that theres no way of repeating 'dolores... clitoris...' under your breath in a questioning voice w/o getting some p disturbed looks

anyway it rhymes that way i would pronounce that two words but mb we need dr. whiney on this

idk "cliTORis" (pronounced like Thor in the middle in order to rhyme wiht Delores) just sounds really really awkward. Like, that's how my mom probably says it or something.

dolores

^^^ have experience cognitive dissonance

d all of this

seinfeld is still on tv every night I think

This reminds me of the classic Chicago joke:

Q: What are the three streets in Chicago that rhyme with vagina?
A: Paulina, Melvina, and Lunt.

sometimes I don't even realize I'm watching it and my gf gets kind of exasperated

she gets less exasperated at king of the hill tho

her name should have been Pat

RIP Mr. Pitt

(I see this is old news and has already been mentioned in the 2012 obits thread. Carry on.)

yeesh:

http://www.avclub.com/articles/seinfeld-actor-daniel-von-bargen-barely-survives-b,69792/

yeesh indeed :-(

RIP Mr. Pitt and :( at that dude's suicide attempt.

Just watched the ep where Kramer gets Novocaine at the dentist and wears Jimmy's special shoes so that some man thinks he's special and invites him to be a guest of honor at Mel Torme's benefit gig. I couldn't breathe I was laughing so much during Torme's serenade. Great one.

this is awesome

Seinfelt

holy shit those are perfect

George orders a BLT, but realizes that he hates the texture of tomato, and the lettuce doesn’t add anything at all. He starts eating “BBBs” for lunch instead.

there's some duds, but mostly bizarre lols

okay these are getting weird

George practices handling food as minimally as possible in order to avoid having to wash his hands as often. Jerry is unnerved when his new girlfriend confesses she’s been to every one of his shows since 1992. Elaine dates a man who enjoys having cigarettes put out on his skin, and finds herself increasingly turned on by secondhand smoke. When the others finally learn Kramer’s first name — Cosmo — he pulls open his face and blasts them all into oblivion with the tiny star contained inside his skull.

Elaine wears “low heel shoes” with the toe elevated higher than the heel.

some of these are close enough to the real thing

The Penguin

When Elaine’s coworker starts taking two-hour-long lunches, she tries to do the same, only to later learn that the woman only takes so long because she has to be fed through a special tube. Kramer starts writing down detailed predictions about trivial events on long scrolls, which he stores in Jerry’s freezer. After a teen on the street refers to an umbrella-wielding George as ‘The Penguin’, he starts to find other commonalities with the character. Jerry receives a request to perform at a fan’s funeral.

i love it how some of them are basically take offs on existing Seinfeld plots, then some are like this

George takes up painting to relieve stress, but finds that he can only paint grotesque images of massive tragedies. Elaine rubs against rough surfaces in Jerry’s apartment in order to shed her skin, which Newman later discovers by accident, and eats after overcoming his initial terror. Kramer’s new shampoo turns his hair bright purple. Jerry vomits a living fetus.

it's as if a computer is writing these

When Jerry confesses to Elaine that he’s still a virgin and has faked every sexual encounter using misdirection and sleight-of-hand, she gives him such a forceful “Get Out” push that he quantum tunnels through his apartment wall and falls to the sidewalk outside. Newman loses a bet with Kramer and has to carry him around on his shoulders for a week. George wakes up to discover psychedelic mushrooms growing between his toes.

"George is bitten by a radioactive pedophile and dreads the potential consequences."

I would love to see some of these actually performed, but I'll probably have to settle for my imagination.

yeah I've been imagining a 10th season with some of these, some of the bits about Jerry bombing or Bania trying to find "the best" bathroom in NYC are funny as hell