Grilled Cheese Sandwiches: 1 slice of cheese or 2?

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Normally I put 2 on, but today I'm going with one cause it seems healthier. But will it still be yummy?

― oops (Oops), Wednesday, 27 August 2003 21:03 (twenty-two years ago)

no.

― teeny (teeny), Wednesday, 27 August 2003 21:05 (twenty-two years ago)

damn.

― oops (Oops), Wednesday, 27 August 2003 21:07 (twenty-two years ago)

Depends on the cheese and thickness. Usual grilled cheese for me is a few small slices and some cream cheese.

― Tep (ktepi), Wednesday, 27 August 2003 21:08 (twenty-two years ago)

if you're using kraft singles (tm), you'd better use two

― curtie slade (curtie), Wednesday, 27 August 2003 21:09 (twenty-two years ago)

I can hardly taste the gooey cheesy goodness!
2 slices, kids. Don't make the same mistake I did.

(tep, talkin bout ordinary Kraft singles)

― oops (Oops), Wednesday, 27 August 2003 21:10 (twenty-two years ago)

two!

― hstencil, Wednesday, 27 August 2003 21:11 (twenty-two years ago)

2 slices, definitely :) Or if you want to max out the gooeyness you can do one slice + Cheez Whiz.

― Tep (ktepi), Wednesday, 27 August 2003 21:11 (twenty-two years ago)

I refuse to eat anything that has "whiz" in its name.

― oops (Oops), Wednesday, 27 August 2003 21:14 (twenty-two years ago)

grilled cheeses are better with real cheese. Not Cheez Whiz or that Kraft Singles crap.

― hstencil, Wednesday, 27 August 2003 21:16 (twenty-two years ago)

Fucking four slices, and different types of cheese too, you cholesterol fearing wimps.

― Nick Southall (Nick Southall), Wednesday, 27 August 2003 21:17 (twenty-two years ago)

I refuse to eat anything that has "whiz" in its name.

It's better than you'd think! Actually, a little mayo in there makes it gooier (gooeyer... MUY MAS GOOTIFUL, DAMMIT), too (and I'm not crazy about mayonnaise). Both tricks given to me by a mother of young children who would bitch if their sandwiches weren't gooey enough.

― Tep (ktepi), Wednesday, 27 August 2003 21:18 (twenty-two years ago)

no doubt, hstencil.

RE whiz: maybe if it was Australian, like "whizbangers" or "collywhizsnoggle" I'd consider eating it.

― oops (Oops), Wednesday, 27 August 2003 21:21 (twenty-two years ago)

You know what time it is? YOU KNOW WHAT TIME IT IS?

― Leee (Leee), Wednesday, 27 August 2003 21:24 (twenty-two years ago)

PEANUT BUTTER JELLY TIME
OH YEAH

― Leee (Leee), Wednesday, 27 August 2003 21:24 (twenty-two years ago)

also, throw a tomato on your grilled cheese.

― hstencil, Wednesday, 27 August 2003 21:27 (twenty-two years ago)

Add marmite!

― Martin Skidmore (Martin Skidmore), Wednesday, 27 August 2003 21:30 (twenty-two years ago)

you're on your own there, Martin.

― hstencil, Wednesday, 27 August 2003 21:31 (twenty-two years ago)

I don't like tomato that isn't fully cooked, except for very occasionally in salad. I'd try the marmite, though. I usually go for some sliced chiles or a little garlic in my grilled cheese, maybe roasted peppers.

― Tep (ktepi), Wednesday, 27 August 2003 21:33 (twenty-two years ago)

Yes, garlic is good - garlic salt is easy.

Also, don't forget that if you do it in the toaster, you have to turn the toaster on its side!

― Martin Skidmore (Martin Skidmore), Wednesday, 27 August 2003 21:39 (twenty-two years ago)

that's genius martin! I never thought of turning a toaster on its side! but then again I guess that's why I have a toaster oven. And also grilled cheeses aren't made in toasters, they're fried in a pan with butter.

― teeny (teeny), Wednesday, 27 August 2003 21:41 (twenty-two years ago)

don't do just one slice... if you're gonna be healthy have a salad. if you're gonna eat tasty food, eat tasty food!!

― allyson (schmanktenputchka), Wednesday, 27 August 2003 21:46 (twenty-two years ago)

Turning a toaster on its side?? Martin just blew all our minds.

― N. (nickdastoor), Wednesday, 27 August 2003 21:48 (twenty-two years ago)

Cheese snob! i'll have you know kraft american cheese has a much calcium as four glasses of milk! and tastes like babies.

― Emilymv (Emilymv), Wednesday, 27 August 2003 22:32 (twenty-two years ago)

Tep is OTM. the number of slices of cheese is governed by the thickness of the loaf.

― Chris Radford (Chris Radford), Wednesday, 27 August 2003 23:19 (twenty-two years ago)

I make my cheese toasties under the griller, not in a frypan... and cheese with Vegemite is the bomb! In fact Kraft made a vegemite-flavoured kraft single at one point. Then they stopped. I wonder why.

― Trayce (trayce), Thursday, 28 August 2003 05:07 (twenty-two years ago)

Tep, your grilled cheese sandwiches sound insane.

― s1utsky (slutsky), Thursday, 28 August 2003 05:10 (twenty-two years ago)

And use thinly cut schinkenbrot for your toast. It enhances the pleasure even more.

― colin s barrow (colin s barrow), Thursday, 28 August 2003 05:38 (twenty-two years ago)

if you put too much cheese on the sandwich it will leak out the sides and burn on the pan. i go with a small amount of cheese. you need to use exactly the right amount of butter too else you will have either dry or soggy bread. you should use sourdough bread and a very sharp cheddar. never american cheese.

― amateurist (amateurist), Thursday, 28 August 2003 05:47 (twenty-two years ago)

American cheese is a nightmare in yellow.

― colin s barrow (colin s barrow), Thursday, 28 August 2003 05:51 (twenty-two years ago)

i think i'm blind!!

― electric sound of jim (electricsound), Thursday, 28 August 2003 05:55 (twenty-two years ago)

amateurist is right except real sandwich makers don't care about a bit of cheese leakage. use as much as necessary, fuck leakage - you can always scrape it off before it burns. as an extra i like to add some tomato, some flat leaf parsley, maybe some onions and occasionally ham...

― minna (minna), Thursday, 28 August 2003 06:27 (twenty-two years ago)

i tried using some havarti and onions and mustard to make grilled cheese sandwiches a few weeks ago and the results were inedible. but tomato is a good idea.

― amateurist (amateurist), Thursday, 28 August 2003 06:32 (twenty-two years ago)

you have to be very careful with any onions, yes, or they overwhelm even the sharpest cheese

― minna (minna), Thursday, 28 August 2003 06:36 (twenty-two years ago)

Fried onion might be nice though. Hmmm.. theres an idea.

― Trayce (trayce), Thursday, 28 August 2003 06:39 (twenty-two years ago)

Or some thinly sliced mushrooms.

― colin s barrow (colin s barrow), Thursday, 28 August 2003 06:48 (twenty-two years ago)

If memory serves, David Rosengarten devoted an entire episode to grilled cheese sandwiches and they looked fantastically good.

The recipe is included in his new cook book.

― Chris Barrus (Chris Barrus), Thursday, 28 August 2003 06:51 (twenty-two years ago)

Martin OTM about the marmite

― robster (robster), Thursday, 28 August 2003 07:29 (twenty-two years ago)

On the Marmite?

― oops (Oops), Thursday, 28 August 2003 07:31 (twenty-two years ago)

cheese that's good to fry

(i will get back to this project shortly, i am pitching a book ? on something else sadly ? and need to concentrate)

― mark s (mark s), Thursday, 28 August 2003 07:35 (twenty-two years ago)

ilx totally controlls my life; I went to the store and got rye and pepper jack last night.

― teeny (teeny), Thursday, 28 August 2003 10:30 (twenty-two years ago)

american cheese is the very worst abomination against real food!

― Dave Stelfox (Dave Stelfox), Thursday, 28 August 2003 10:40 (twenty-two years ago)

kraft singles - bleargh!!!

― Dave Stelfox (Dave Stelfox), Thursday, 28 August 2003 10:41 (twenty-two years ago)

You do HAVE real cheese in the USA right?

― Archel (Archel), Thursday, 28 August 2003 10:49 (twenty-two years ago)

yeah, it comes from canada!

― Dave Stelfox (Dave Stelfox), Thursday, 28 August 2003 11:02 (twenty-two years ago)

I used to eat those processed cheese slices on holiday as a kid, but I never suspected that they're considered genuine adult food. They're just not very nice, surely? (Mind you, Americans make 'grilled' cheese in a frying pan so what do they know ;))

― Archel (Archel), Thursday, 28 August 2003 11:07 (twenty-two years ago)

Red Leicester rocks on Cheese on Toast. It melts nicely, and is a bit oily. Mmmm. Also, creamy Lancashire works well. Add some worcester sauce too. Then ketchup. God I'm hungry...

― Dave B (daveb), Thursday, 28 August 2003 11:11 (twenty-two years ago)

strong canadian/irish/english (in order of preference) cheddar on v thick, home-cut slices of white bread toast, grilled (broiled for americans) till it goes v bubbly accompanied by HP sauce to dip it in - the only way to make cheese on toast.

― Dave Stelfox (Dave Stelfox), Thursday, 28 August 2003 11:28 (twenty-two years ago)

Seconded. Although I'd allow worcestershire sauce as well.

― Archel (Archel), Thursday, 28 August 2003 11:33 (twenty-two years ago)

No no no no. Brown sauce for Cheese and Onion pies. Tomato for cheese on toast. It is written.

― Dave B (daveb), Thursday, 28 August 2003 11:40 (twenty-two years ago)

Use 3 different kinds of cheese, spicey mustard, and slices of granny smith apples. Yum!

― Sarah McLusky (coco), Thursday, 28 August 2003 11:49 (twenty-two years ago)

tomato sauce for cheese on toast - you are evil! and as for apples...

― Dave Stelfox (Dave Stelfox), Thursday, 28 August 2003 11:53 (twenty-two years ago)

I like tomatoes and crispy crispy bacon on mine. Bacon greatly enhances any foodstuff, except for dessert-type foodstuffs, perhaps. I defy you all to give me ONE example of what non-dessert-type foodstuff is not vastly improved by the addition of bacon!

― quincie, Thursday, 28 August 2003 12:04 (twenty-two years ago)

You guys all have very loose definitions of a grilled cheese sandwich - "I like mine with no bread, two fried eggs, and a thick slab of fresh salmon instead of cheese."

― NA (Nick A.), Thursday, 28 August 2003 12:09 (twenty-two years ago)

defy you all to give me ONE example of what non-dessert-type foodstuff is not vastly improved by the addition of bacon!

grapefruit

― Dave Stelfox (Dave Stelfox), Thursday, 28 August 2003 12:14 (twenty-two years ago)

bzzt incorrect

― electric sound of jim (electricsound), Thursday, 28 August 2003 12:23 (twenty-two years ago)

how does adding bacon make a grapefruit better!?

― Dave Stelfox (Dave Stelfox), Thursday, 28 August 2003 12:25 (twenty-two years ago)

you'd be surprised. cocktail sticks are involved

― electric sound of jim (electricsound), Thursday, 28 August 2003 12:28 (twenty-two years ago)

one things for sure, if i am breaking out the onions, havarti, apples, salmon, etc i am not making a grilled cheese sandwich. defeats the purpose. i am making comfort food to lessen the hangover.

― kephm, Thursday, 28 August 2003 12:36 (twenty-two years ago)

I think the bacon/grapefruit thing could work. You could toss grapefruit sections in a vinaigrette with crumbled bacon and, I don't know, minced tarragon or something. That's shit's gonna be in Gourmet one of these days, mark my words.

― quincie, Thursday, 28 August 2003 12:56 (twenty-two years ago)

grilled cheese. my favourite food.

if i use the "thick" kraft singles, obviously one slice is enough. the "thin" ones, i use two. sometimes i go with the swiss or mozarella-flavoured kraft singles, but as they are white instead of bright orange, the experience proves less satisfying.

one trick to make a grilled-cheese on the go : toast your toasts (toaster on the side, if you so wish), butter largely, wrap in paper towel, microwave for 13 seconds. eat with doritos and a large glass of peach nectar.

also, mcdonalds now have grilled cheese. they must be vile, but i won't know. anyone is willing to try?

― chomi2600, Thursday, 28 August 2003 12:56 (twenty-two years ago)

One might also argue that, as a fruit, grapefruit falls into the dessert-type foodstuff category.

― quincie, Thursday, 28 August 2003 12:58 (twenty-two years ago)

grapefruit is a totally arse dessert...

― Dave Stelfox (Dave Stelfox), Thursday, 28 August 2003 13:01 (twenty-two years ago)

peach nectar

just discovered this stuff as a great mixer with vodka over crushed ice...

― Dave Stelfox (Dave Stelfox), Thursday, 28 August 2003 13:04 (twenty-two years ago)

Peach nectar would most likely not be enhanced by the addition of bacon. But you should try it, anyway.

― quincie, Thursday, 28 August 2003 13:07 (twenty-two years ago)

bacon improved by addition of vodka!

― Dave Stelfox (Dave Stelfox), Thursday, 28 August 2003 13:12 (twenty-two years ago)

Absolut Bacon is one of my fave vodkas

― lawrence kansas (lawrence kansas), Thursday, 28 August 2003 13:13 (twenty-two years ago)

mixed with hp sauce it would be the world's best ever cocktail

― Dave Stelfox (Dave Stelfox), Thursday, 28 August 2003 13:20 (twenty-two years ago)

Bacon would most definitely be a welcome addition to any Bloody Mary.

― quincie, Thursday, 28 August 2003 13:24 (twenty-two years ago)

Irish cheddar usually is what I use but I do like a bit of gouda.

I don't get the bacon/brie craze, toasted brie separates into its component parts in a disgusting way. and anyway not all brie is nice when served mushy.

― Ronan (Ronan), Thursday, 28 August 2003 13:24 (twenty-two years ago)

the addition of bacon would NEVER improve the taste of cottage cheese, or benedictine, or raspberries, or applesauce.

― Emilymv (Emilymv), Thursday, 28 August 2003 13:28 (twenty-two years ago)

I don't even eat meat and bacon and applesauce sounds decent to me.

― NA (Nick A.), Thursday, 28 August 2003 13:32 (twenty-two years ago)

the addition of bacon would NEVER improve the taste of cottage cheese

you are clearly insane... cottage cheese, peanut butter, mayo and crisp salad on granary bread is a good sandwich, too

― Dave Stelfox (Dave Stelfox), Thursday, 28 August 2003 13:34 (twenty-two years ago)

bacon + red pepper + green pepper + cottage cheese = culinary cunning of the highest order

― lawrence kansas (lawrence kansas), Thursday, 28 August 2003 13:36 (twenty-two years ago)

Dave Stelfox will cater my wedding

― lawrence kansas (lawrence kansas), Thursday, 28 August 2003 13:36 (twenty-two years ago)

My favorite grilled cheese - pumperknickel rye & provolone

My son's favorite grilled cheese - white bread & velveeta

Alternate - very thick slices (aka "Texas Toast") w/ peanut butter & sliced banana

― nickalicious (nickalicious), Thursday, 28 August 2003 13:54 (twenty-two years ago)

Also, avocado in grilled cheese = da poo.

― nickalicious (nickalicious), Thursday, 28 August 2003 13:55 (twenty-two years ago)

peanut butter and banana elvis style

― Ronan (Ronan), Thursday, 28 August 2003 13:58 (twenty-two years ago)

a variation on the peanut butter and jelly sandwich is my brother's afterschool sandwich, from age 6 to 16 : raspberry jam, pieces of chicken or turkey (cold) with a kraft singles on top. my brother's answer to my daily grossed-out noises (age 3 to 13): "but it has the 4 essential food groups". makes sense. at least 5 of his friends picked up the habit too.

i like a hint of maple syrup to flavour-up my peanut butter. i HATE bananas.

applesauce might actually be decent in a grilled cheese, as my cheese-freak uncle would always serve me a little spoonful of applesauce when trying to get me to eat foul-smelling blue cheese

― hungry chomi2600, Thursday, 28 August 2003 14:08 (twenty-two years ago)

Mmmmmmm. . . bacon and avacados and tomatoes on grilled cheese! God damn I am hungry!

― quincie, Thursday, 28 August 2003 14:51 (twenty-two years ago)

If I had a secretary I would make him/her go get me a sammich right now!

― quincie, Thursday, 28 August 2003 14:52 (twenty-two years ago)

Oof, my bf made grilled cheese for me once and it was ridiculously good. It involved some ludicrously fancy bread and ludicrously nice cheese and then frying it in a deep pool of butter.

I can't recommend the deep pool of butter enough.

If you're going for basic diner grilled cheese, though, the tomato slice is key. Lately I've switched from sourdough to rye. It's a nice change.

― Chris P (Chris P), Thursday, 28 August 2003 15:11 (twenty-two years ago)

OK can some kind American actually explain to me what a grilled cheese sandwich is. Because it's not like a cheese toastie. Yet nor is it cheese on toast.

(I don't get the concept of an 'open face sandwich' btw. If it's open face then it's just some bread. Or toast. Isn't it? Arrghh.)

― Archel (Archel), Thursday, 28 August 2003 15:14 (twenty-two years ago)

Butter is applied to the outside of the bread. Cheese is placed between two slices of bread and sandwich is then fried in a skillet.

― lawrence kansas (lawrence kansas), Thursday, 28 August 2003 15:15 (twenty-two years ago)

One of my best friends used to eat it thusly:

white bread +
american cheese +
pickles

thousand island dressing for dipping

― luna (luna.c), Thursday, 28 August 2003 15:17 (twenty-two years ago)

Ok, so it is a BIT like a British cheese toastie except frying is involved rather than a toastie maker thing.

― Archel (Archel), Thursday, 28 August 2003 15:18 (twenty-two years ago)

yes, the frying part leaves a nice crunchy golden brown on the bread. Combined with the soft cheese middle it's the stuff of legends.

― lawrence kansas (lawrence kansas), Thursday, 28 August 2003 15:20 (twenty-two years ago)

basically the cheese is not grilled at all and the sandwich is fried... our american cousins still haven't quite grapsed the english language yet... *waits for people to start throwing stuff*

― Dave Stelfox (Dave Stelfox), Thursday, 28 August 2003 15:21 (twenty-two years ago)

grapsed

― teeny (teeny), Thursday, 28 August 2003 15:24 (twenty-two years ago)

noted ;)

― Dave Stelfox (Dave Stelfox), Thursday, 28 August 2003 15:26 (twenty-two years ago)

of all the posts i really needed not to have any typos in...

― Dave Stelfox (Dave Stelfox), Thursday, 28 August 2003 15:27 (twenty-two years ago)

I've also heard the term "Toasted Cheese Sandwich" here in the US when refering to the fried sandwich and yet I've never ever heard it called "Fried Cheese Sandwich".

― lawrence kansas (lawrence kansas), Thursday, 28 August 2003 15:27 (twenty-two years ago)

Also, what is a toaster oven?

― Archel (Archel), Thursday, 28 August 2003 15:28 (twenty-two years ago)

it should be called a fried cheese sandwich...

― Dave Stelfox (Dave Stelfox), Thursday, 28 August 2003 15:28 (twenty-two years ago)

toaster oven = small table top oven.

― lawrence kansas (lawrence kansas), Thursday, 28 August 2003 15:30 (twenty-two years ago)

http://64.95.118.51/images/opti/7c/05/647659-elec_lg-resized200.jpg

― lawrence kansas (lawrence kansas), Thursday, 28 August 2003 15:31 (twenty-two years ago)

Oh cool, thanks lawrence.

(Possibly Fried Cheese Sandwich sounds too much like a heart attack waiting to happen?)

― Archel (Archel), Thursday, 28 August 2003 15:32 (twenty-two years ago)

i like them actually and wouldn't mind getting one... apologies for snooty, badly typed englishness earlier... hope we're still all friends...

― Dave Stelfox (Dave Stelfox), Thursday, 28 August 2003 15:33 (twenty-two years ago)

Not Fried Cheese Sandwich - as pointed out above, the cheese isn't fried.

― NA (Nick A.), Thursday, 28 August 2003 15:35 (twenty-two years ago)

It's a "grilled" cheese sandwich because the American version was popularized in diners where the stove (which, unlike home stoves at the time, used a long flat area heated more or less evenly all along it, rather than separate heating elements meant to serve small pans) is called a grill.

― Tep (ktepi), Thursday, 28 August 2003 15:36 (twenty-two years ago)

two fried bread slices containing melted cheese

― Dave Stelfox (Dave Stelfox), Thursday, 28 August 2003 15:36 (twenty-two years ago)

If you're going for basic diner grilled cheese, though, the tomato slice is key

In a simpler variant, after having a full lunch yesterday my dinner consisted of cheddar, fresh tomato just sliced and crispbread. Wonderful, of course.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 28 August 2003 15:36 (twenty-two years ago)

we call what you call a grill a hotplate and what you call a broiler a grill!

― Dave Stelfox (Dave Stelfox), Thursday, 28 August 2003 15:37 (twenty-two years ago)

don't worry dave, I'll still go to your cocktail party!

― teeny (teeny), Thursday, 28 August 2003 15:37 (twenty-two years ago)

In a simpler variant, after having a full lunch yesterday my dinner consisted of cheddar, fresh tomato just sliced and crispbread. Wonderful, of course.

the ungrilled cheese unsandwich

― Dave Stelfox (Dave Stelfox), Thursday, 28 August 2003 15:39 (twenty-two years ago)

we call what you call a grill a hotplate and what you call a broiler a grill!

Weirdly, we call broilers grills sometimes too :) A hotplate refers to a more or less portable appliance, though, usually not much bigger than an average sized frying pan/skillet/etc.

― Tep (ktepi), Thursday, 28 August 2003 15:39 (twenty-two years ago)

Dave, sandwiches are very important to my people. Calling them fried cheese sanwiches is a threat to our lifestyle that cannot and will not stand.

― lawrence kansas (lawrence kansas), Thursday, 28 August 2003 15:41 (twenty-two years ago)

Crikey. I hope we all mean the same thing by 'cheese' and 'bread'. Except, no, we don't, because Kraft singles have been mentioned here and they are clearly NOT CHEESE!

― Archel (Archel), Thursday, 28 August 2003 15:41 (twenty-two years ago)

You're all mental.

The ONLY way to make a grilled/fried cheese sandwich/toastie/whatever is by using one of these:

http://www.breville.co.uk/images/tr30lg.jpg

www.breville.co.uk will make your life a happier place, along with mature cheddar, a dash of lea & perrin's, a sliced tomato if you've got one handy, or even better, fish fingers...

― CharlieNo4 (Charlie), Thursday, 28 August 2003 15:41 (twenty-two years ago)

I think the Breville sandwich maker is vastly overrated. If it actually WORKED it would indeed be as you say.

― Archel (Archel), Thursday, 28 August 2003 15:43 (twenty-two years ago)

I think what Brits aren't getting about Kraft, Velveeta, etc., is that it isn't so much that Americans -- beyond childhood, at least -- really consider them cheese on the same level as cheddar, mozzarella, et al. There just isn't another word to use, and after the diner age ended, grilled cheese's major role has been a childhood food. No one thinks the cheese powder in boxed macaroni and cheese is cheese, either, but we're not about to call it macaroni and stuff.

Well, I might. But it wouldn't catch on.

Besides, you guys have mushy peas, for heaven's sake, you really can't talk :)

― Tep (ktepi), Thursday, 28 August 2003 15:43 (twenty-two years ago)

the ungrilled cheese unsandwich

Hurrah!

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 28 August 2003 15:46 (twenty-two years ago)

don't worry dave, I'll still go to your cocktail party!

aw, i'm a happy guy now! don't want any rifts in international relations going on... and americans categorically DO NOT mean the same thing as use when they say cheese... they mean weird waxy slices of bright orange filth whereas the rest of the world means the best food known to man!

― Dave Stelfox (Dave Stelfox), Thursday, 28 August 2003 15:47 (twenty-two years ago)

'processed cheese food' just doesn't have the same ring to it.

― luna (luna.c), Thursday, 28 August 2003 15:47 (twenty-two years ago)

We mean the other cheese when we say cheese, too, for pete's sake. I mean ... we do make more of it than you do, you know.

― Tep (ktepi), Thursday, 28 August 2003 15:49 (twenty-two years ago)

Mushy peas are at least actual peas!

Having said that about Breville, I am still now craving the fat mushed up toasties of my halls of residence days, full of cheese and mushroom and banana and sweetcorn and baked beans... mmm.

― Archel (Archel), Thursday, 28 August 2003 15:50 (twenty-two years ago)

we've made it for longer! more not always better!

― Dave Stelfox (Dave Stelfox), Thursday, 28 August 2003 15:50 (twenty-two years ago)

americans (who i love, actually) invented spray-on cheese - i rest my case!

― Dave Stelfox (Dave Stelfox), Thursday, 28 August 2003 15:51 (twenty-two years ago)

You've only made it for longer because you're older :) Although if you want to accede superior production and usage of potato, tomato, and corn to us on the same logic, that would be fine.

― Tep (ktepi), Thursday, 28 August 2003 15:52 (twenty-two years ago)

I find it vastly amusing that we're still having these US vs. UK language issues after over 200 years of America and 3 years of ilx!

― teeny (teeny), Thursday, 28 August 2003 15:54 (twenty-two years ago)

They'll never, ever go away :) It's like the generation gap, only different.

― Tep (ktepi), Thursday, 28 August 2003 15:54 (twenty-two years ago)

It's not language any more, this is a full-on cultural batt;e to the death.

― Mark C (Mark C), Thursday, 28 August 2003 15:55 (twenty-two years ago)

ok... and we would never make spray-on potatoes, either (even a nation that likes war and fighting as much as ours recognises this could be really dangerous outside of the military)

― Dave Stelfox (Dave Stelfox), Thursday, 28 August 2003 15:56 (twenty-two years ago)

fired stilton topped w.marmite nutella = overturning the cheese-table and shouting BULLSHIT!!

― mark s (mark s), Thursday, 28 August 2003 15:56 (twenty-two years ago)

boiled stilton topped w.marmite and nutella on a bed of fried spud-gun pellets

― mark s (mark s), Thursday, 28 August 2003 15:58 (twenty-two years ago)

*aims pressurised cannister primed with whole raw, spray-on potatoes at mark as he overturns cheese table* calm down mr sinkah...

― Dave Stelfox (Dave Stelfox), Thursday, 28 August 2003 15:59 (twenty-two years ago)

I'm gonna have to take a moment while I contemplate spray-on potatoes :)

(Actually, fuck that: spray-on bacon. "Hmmm, you know, there's something not right about this sandwich ... hey, wait! *pssssh* The refreshing taste of bacon! That's what was missing! And I didn't need to open a whole package! Plus the nitrites will save me up to fifteen percent on embalming fees.")

― Tep (ktepi), Thursday, 28 August 2003 15:59 (twenty-two years ago)

Oh my god. Tep, patent that before I get my hands on it.

― Mark C (Mark C), Thursday, 28 August 2003 16:02 (twenty-two years ago)

One slice. Usually I'm on a budget.

― The Man they call Dan (The Man they call Dan), Thursday, 28 August 2003 16:03 (twenty-two years ago)

If I write it down on the back of my hand, does that count as "patenting"?

― Tep (ktepi), Thursday, 28 August 2003 16:04 (twenty-two years ago)

If you also draw ©

― luna (luna.c), Thursday, 28 August 2003 16:04 (twenty-two years ago)

i thought american bacon did come out of a spray can...

― Dave Stelfox (Dave Stelfox), Thursday, 28 August 2003 16:05 (twenty-two years ago)

Done!

Now I need to trademark "Spraycon." Everyone wish and pray that it isn't already taken by some kind of mite-killer.

― Tep (ktepi), Thursday, 28 August 2003 16:06 (twenty-two years ago)

BACO-SPRITZ

― lawrence kansas (lawrence kansas), Thursday, 28 August 2003 16:07 (twenty-two years ago)

I sense a brand name war the likes of which has not been seen since Betamax/VHS or Manzier/Bro. BACO-SPRITZ vs SPRAYCON FITE

― Tep (ktepi), Thursday, 28 August 2003 16:08 (twenty-two years ago)

x-post

spraycon is genius

― lawrence kansas (lawrence kansas), Thursday, 28 August 2003 16:09 (twenty-two years ago)

You should be able to use BACOSPRITZ (TM) as an underarm deoderant as well.

― NA (Nick A.), Thursday, 28 August 2003 16:16 (twenty-two years ago)

Especially if you want to lure stray dogs to your home and ... (continued on peanut butter vs nutella thread, because that's really a factor that should weigh in favor of one or the other).

― Tep (ktepi), Thursday, 28 August 2003 16:32 (twenty-two years ago)

everyone is harshing my tangy cheddarey mellow.

― amateurist (amateurist), Thursday, 28 August 2003 16:42 (twenty-two years ago)

1 sandwich a day ... made with SPRAYCON (TM) and Cheez in a can, soaked in butter every six year olds dream snack!!

― annie, Thursday, 28 August 2003 16:54 (twenty-two years ago)

You do HAVE real cheese in the USA right?
-- Archel (rp3...) (webmail), August 28th, 2003 6:49 AM. (Archel) (later) (link)

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yeah, it comes from canada!
-- Dave Stelfox

SOMEbody's never heard of a little place called Wisconsin.

― oops (Oops), Thursday, 28 August 2003 18:48 (twenty-two years ago)

I'm trying the low/no carb diet thingy so will be doing grilled cheeses sans bread for a while. burny.

― Texas Sam (thatgirl), Friday, 29 August 2003 01:46 (twenty-two years ago)

Why am I suddenly seeing caffienated bacon and baconated grapefruit in my mind? heh.

Also Archel - what about breville snackmaker thingies doesnt work, for you? I love the things. You can jam loads of food into yr toastie because it seals the edges, so sloppy crap like tinned braised steak (or as I like to call it, "human dog food") works nicely, if that floats your boat.

I like to fill them with pink salmon mixed with mayo and loaded with black pepper... mmm thats the sheeit.

― Trayce (trayce), Friday, 29 August 2003 03:18 (twenty-two years ago)

STOP THE PRESSES!

The makers of Spraycon, the labor-free bacon, are proud to announce our new caffeine-infused bacon: WAKIN BACON.

― Tep (ktepi), Friday, 29 August 2003 03:21 (twenty-two years ago)

Damn, screw this story stuff, I'm gonna go into the bacon biz.

― Tep (ktepi), Friday, 29 August 2003 03:21 (twenty-two years ago)

Spray on caffienated bacon. Tep, you are a geenious!

― Trayce (trayce), Friday, 29 August 2003 04:44 (twenty-two years ago)

pink samon...not lox?

― amateurist (amateurist), Friday, 29 August 2003 05:41 (twenty-two years ago)

Whats lox? is that some kind of pickled herring thing?

I meant canned pink salmon, mushed up and mixed with mayo... mmmmmm.

― Trayce (trayce), Friday, 29 August 2003 06:10 (twenty-two years ago)

The thing I don't like about sandwich makers is that although they THEORETICALLY seal all the filling in, the reality is often a disgusting slick of cheesy gunk oozing out the sides, sticking to the plates and generally making a big old mess. And when they do work they don't let any steam out so you burn your mouth on volcanically hot tomatoes etc.

But I quibble, because the theory is so beautiful that a few quirks in the execution are probably not important :)

― Archel (Archel), Friday, 29 August 2003 08:17 (twenty-two years ago)

mine always shorts the fusebox : (

― Ronan (Ronan), Friday, 29 August 2003 08:18 (twenty-two years ago)

The cheese-leak phenomenon is a problem with breville-type things but the end results are *sooo* nice.

Damn, I want a cheese and ham toastie now but I'm at work. :(

― robster (robster), Friday, 29 August 2003 08:21 (twenty-two years ago)

On the twostep setting? Or does it not like the 4/4 as well?

― Ricardo (RickyT), Friday, 29 August 2003 08:24 (twenty-two years ago)

the new one only has a 2 setting, it's like being back in 85 when music was music. (that thread was the best thread ever)

― Ronan (Ronan), Friday, 29 August 2003 08:27 (twenty-two years ago)

Fury at Electrical Appliances

― Ronan (Ronan), Friday, 29 August 2003 08:28 (twenty-two years ago)

the bad thing about brevilles is that the cheese filling in the sandwich is hotter than molten lava - countless times when i was little i made breville sandwiches with filling that somehow conducted heat better than any substance known to man eg. while melted cheese and baked beans can potentially maim you, banana and golden syrup is hotter than the fires of hell! these things are bloody dangerous and should be issued with a health warning...

― Dave Stelfox (Dave Stelfox), Friday, 29 August 2003 08:51 (twenty-two years ago)

Clearly for optimum melting, one should grate one's cheese.

― Ed (dali), Friday, 29 August 2003 09:00 (twenty-two years ago)

ed, no matter what method is used to prepare the cheese it is still a major health hazard...

― Dave Stelfox (Dave Stelfox), Friday, 29 August 2003 09:03 (twenty-two years ago)

the mars bar breville sandwich was also quite bad, but tasted so damned good it was worth the pain...

― Dave Stelfox (Dave Stelfox), Friday, 29 August 2003 09:06 (twenty-two years ago)

nutella is good.

― Ronan (Ronan), Friday, 29 August 2003 09:13 (twenty-two years ago)

Trayce, lox is smoked salmon, served cold in little strips. It's salty and (if you get a good quality lox) delicious. Also expensive.

― amateurist (amateurist), Friday, 29 August 2003 15:57 (twenty-two years ago)

five months pass...

Brits, did you know we Americans have things called BACOS, which you sprinkle on your salad but which actually contain no meat whatsoever? Scary stuff...

I love lightly sauteed squash or zucchini on my grilled cheese sammiches, especially with a spicy cheese like pepper jack (though sharp cheddar or even something like Cotswold would work great). The bread should be a hearty wheat, or rye or pumpernickel. A little spicy or dijon mustard, too. Tomatoes are great on grilled cheese, but they should be added *after* grilling -- the hot cheese and bread will warm them up nice, but they will retain their freshness and texture and won't end up tasting stewed. Shit, I'm hungry!

― Clarke B., Saturday, 7 February 2004 05:51 (twenty-two years ago)

Also, if you add veggies and stuff, put them between layers of cheese and not against the slices of bread -- it really makes a difference!

― Clarke B., Saturday, 7 February 2004 05:52 (twenty-two years ago)

Artistic freak. (Well done.)

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Saturday, 7 February 2004 17:09 (twenty-two years ago)

eight months pass...

The champion of all foods.

― The TAO that can be Posted is not the TAO! (The Tao that can be Posted is), Thursday, 7 October 2004 21:02 (twenty-one years ago)

2 slices, butter on the outside and fry them up!

― Baaderoni (Fabfunk), Thursday, 7 October 2004 21:08 (twenty-one years ago)

veggies on a grilled cheese sandwich? that's unamerican.

― pfeffernuesse (Jody Beth Rosen), Thursday, 7 October 2004 21:09 (twenty-one years ago)

basically the cheese is not grilled at all and the sandwich is fried

when i'm feeling "health-conscious" i just brown the bread in the pan (without butter). it satisfies the craving well enough.

― pfeffernuesse (Jody Beth Rosen), Thursday, 7 October 2004 21:13 (twenty-one years ago)

No one has spoken about the joys of dipping them in tomato soup!!!???

― Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Thursday, 7 October 2004 21:19 (twenty-one years ago)

spencer otm!! grilled cheese and tomato soup is my favorite soup/sandwich combo of all time!

― pfeffernuesse (Jody Beth Rosen), Thursday, 7 October 2004 21:23 (twenty-one years ago)

(served with a glass of milk, naturally)

― pfeffernuesse (Jody Beth Rosen), Thursday, 7 October 2004 21:23 (twenty-one years ago)

I mean, what other combination can turn White Wonder Bread, Campbell's Tomato Soup, and Kraft Singles into one of the most satisfying meals ever???

― Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Thursday, 7 October 2004 21:25 (twenty-one years ago)

my favorite thing with tomato soup right now is to fry up a couple of sausage links and toss them into the soup while they're red hot, along with the pan drippings. it totally hits the spot.

― pfeffernuesse (Jody Beth Rosen), Thursday, 7 October 2004 21:27 (twenty-one years ago)

five months pass...

Blessed Be the Cheese Sandwich Maker

Mon Mar 21,10:43 AM ET Oddly Enough - Reuters

LONDON (Reuters) - It's no ordinary toasted cheese sandwich.

American food guru Ruth Reichl called it the tastiest morsel she had eaten in the place she said was now the world's food capital.

And the praise she heaped on Bill Oglethorpe's designer sandwich in Gourmet magazine triggered a flood of visitors to his Saturday stall in London's trendy Borough Market.

"I would guess that my sandwich turnover has doubled since the article," Oglethorpe, 42, told Reuters while standing over a hotplate full of sizzling delicacies with a long queue of people waiting.

They are not cheap, but nevertheless they were selling at a rate of close to one a minute.

There is an art to the Oglethorpe sandwich experience. He takes two slices of Poilane sourdough bread, crumbled Montgomery cheddar cheese, matured for 18 months at 12 degrees centigrade, and tops it off with five varieties of onion and garlic.

"I came to London to see my daughter and her fiancee," said Jack Flynn from Maine. "But I came here to try one of these. The article was right. It is to die for."

― charleston charge (chaki), Tuesday, 22 March 2005 09:27 (twenty-one years ago)

one year passes...

Aww yeah - guess what i'm having right now

― Baaderonixx immer wieder (baaderonixx), Saturday, 29 July 2006 15:31 (nineteen years ago)

Spray-on bacon

― Paul Eater (eater), Saturday, 29 July 2006 15:35 (nineteen years ago)

one year passes...

grilled cheese w/muenster & some aged-ass cheddar = a++

― Jordan, Wednesday, 20 February 2008 23:33 (eighteen years ago)

gr8est grilled cheese of all times:

TOAST
mustard
slice of cheese
tomato
tomato
slice of cheese
mayo
TOAST

― BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Thursday, 21 February 2008 00:28 (eighteen years ago)

ps a smidge of feta sprinkled amongst the tomatos is HEAVEN

― BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Thursday, 21 February 2008 00:28 (eighteen years ago)

w
o
w

― Surmounter, Thursday, 21 February 2008 00:29 (eighteen years ago)

god so hungry now

― BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Thursday, 21 February 2008 00:29 (eighteen years ago)

will make 11ty of these upon arrival @home

― BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Thursday, 21 February 2008 00:30 (eighteen years ago)

i want one ;( i need to buy grillable cheese

what kind of cheese?

― Surmounter, Thursday, 21 February 2008 00:31 (eighteen years ago)

i think last time i had pieces of white cheddar, but man slices of kraft'll do ya, it's all about the mustard/mayo/tomato/feta tastebud explosion

― BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Thursday, 21 February 2008 00:35 (eighteen years ago)

right.

i do the kraft at times. i mean a slice of kraft is like the best snack ever.

― Surmounter, Thursday, 21 February 2008 00:35 (eighteen years ago)

Shit, feeling sassy, I go for four.

― roxymuzak, Thursday, 21 February 2008 00:41 (eighteen years ago)

i know right? 1 is crazy!!

― Surmounter, Thursday, 21 February 2008 00:43 (eighteen years ago)

cu-RAY-zeeeee

― BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Thursday, 21 February 2008 00:45 (eighteen years ago)

1 is completely like why even make a sandwich.

― roxymuzak, Thursday, 21 February 2008 00:47 (eighteen years ago)

totally.

i'm going to make one now and i'm going to put some of that HOOStard on it.

― Jordan, Thursday, 21 February 2008 01:47 (eighteen years ago)

i don't even fuck with kraft btw, it's got to be real cheese.

― Jordan, Thursday, 21 February 2008 01:48 (eighteen years ago)

yes but a kraft single is like a perfect little bite of tastiness!

― Surmounter, Thursday, 21 February 2008 02:04 (eighteen years ago)

ya, if you like plastic!

― Jordan, Thursday, 21 February 2008 02:05 (eighteen years ago)

Wheat
Grilled Onion
Cheese - Kraft Swiss Singles
THIN slice or two of tomato
Cheese
Wheat

Gotta use real butter

And you better be high.

― B.L.A.M., Thursday, 21 February 2008 02:14 (eighteen years ago)

A proper grilled cheese does not have the cheese measured in slices but in dollars.

― libcrypt, Thursday, 21 February 2008 02:25 (eighteen years ago)

i had some delicious tomato rice soup today but it seemed naked without a grilled cheese sandwich to go with it.

― get bent, Thursday, 21 February 2008 03:24 (eighteen years ago)

ok dudes i just made two of these and am enjoying mine with a freestyle wheat beer A++ SO awes

― BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Thursday, 21 February 2008 03:38 (eighteen years ago)

btw "freestyle" is a brand of wheat beer not like brewed in my sink or anything

― BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Thursday, 21 February 2008 03:55 (eighteen years ago)

Whew. I was kinda worried about that, actually.

― libcrypt, Thursday, 21 February 2008 04:01 (eighteen years ago)

2 cans PBR
3 slices Nature's Own Whole Wheat Bread (or whatever brand you prefer)

Blend til smooth.
Enjoy!

― Kerm, Thursday, 21 February 2008 04:08 (eighteen years ago)

:-O

― BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Thursday, 21 February 2008 04:08 (eighteen years ago)

It's a rule in my life that all grilled cheese must involve a roasted pepper of some sort unless accompanied by tomato soup and then it's a case by case basis

― A B C, Thursday, 21 February 2008 04:20 (eighteen years ago)

Kerm, that's gotta be the worst concoction to meet a blender since I thought to toss a dozen poppy pods in one.

― libcrypt, Thursday, 21 February 2008 04:27 (eighteen years ago)

2 slices of bread
1 slice of cheese
spread some pesto and sprinkle some basil
and blammo, you have the same great tasting grilled cheese sandwich I paid $2 for from a hippie at a phish concert

― CaptainLorax, Thursday, 21 February 2008 04:35 (eighteen years ago)

maybe if you added a slice of orange? xpost

― Kerm, Thursday, 21 February 2008 04:43 (eighteen years ago)

How much cheese could possibly be too much?

― roxymuzak, Thursday, 21 February 2008 04:43 (eighteen years ago)

no cheese could be too much cheese

you get my meaning

― BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Thursday, 21 February 2008 04:55 (eighteen years ago)

More cheese than bread sounds a little ridiculous.

― Kerm, Thursday, 21 February 2008 04:55 (eighteen years ago)

You have to admit it still sounds good, though.

― roxymuzak, Thursday, 21 February 2008 05:01 (eighteen years ago)

More cheese than bread sounds a little ridiculous.

By volume yes by weight no fuckin' way.

― libcrypt, Thursday, 21 February 2008 05:02 (eighteen years ago)

of course, of course

― Kerm, Thursday, 21 February 2008 05:09 (eighteen years ago)

spencer otm!! grilled cheese and tomato soup is my favorite soup/sandwich combo of all time!
-- pfeffernuesse (Jody Beth Rosen), Thursday, 7 October 2004 22:23

(served with a glass of milk, naturally)
-- pfeffernuesse (Jody Beth Rosen), Thursday, 7 October 2004 22:23

euurgh, i can't think of anything more claggy. i think i'd need an enema on my throat after all that.

― or something, Thursday, 21 February 2008 22:34 (eighteen years ago)

If you put some ham in it, is that still grilled cheese? Or is it ham & cheese, different thing? I like to make the ham turn brown in a pan first, then make my sandwich. Here's how:

1st some nice cheese. Cheddar, primarily, tho gouda or gruyere can mix with. Then thinly sliced tomato slices. They have to be very thin, or hot won't go through. Sweetish wheat bread is a very good option. Sweet agrees w/ the ham.

1) Let pan get good and hot. Medium-low, medium, at most.
2) Melt in some butter. Doesn't take much.
3) Add bread w/ cheese and tomato on it. Tomato goes on top, bread on bottom with cheese snug between. Tomato blanket should be thin but thorough, w/ no gaps!
4) After a while, bottom bread will turn browner and smell nice. When this happens, put other bread on top, lift sandwich from pan, and add a bit more butter.
5) Butter melts = flip sandwich and replace (uncooked bread goes down).
6) After some more while, lift off top bread. Tomato layer should make this doable, even after cheese melts. At this point, you should slip in some brown meat. It is tricky, though. Do not fuck it up!
7) Probably by now it will be done again. Eat it.

― contenderizer, Thursday, 21 February 2008 22:58 (eighteen years ago)

http://www.pockethouse.com/sims2/2007007-smash/98.jpg

― Catsupppppppppppppp dude 茄蕃, Thursday, 21 February 2008 23:02 (eighteen years ago)

three weeks pass...

omnomnomnomnomnom

― never acid again, Tuesday, 18 March 2008 02:00 (eighteen years ago)

ok dudes i just made two of these and am enjoying mine with a freestyle wheat beer A++ SO awes

-- BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Thursday, February 21, 2008 3:38 AM (3 weeks ago) Bookmark Link

btw "freestyle" is a brand of wheat beer not like brewed in my sink or anything

-- BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Thursday, February 21, 2008 3:55 AM

i spent TWENTY MINUTES OF MY LIFE thinking about this

― BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Tuesday, 18 March 2008 02:07 (eighteen years ago)

ten years pass...

1. grind up half a link of andouille sausage (casing removed) and some cubes of cheddar in a food processor
2. spread the resulting paste (at this point it should resemble potted meat or mechanically separated chicken) between two slices of wheat bread
3. grill
5. this is actually really good!

― the yolk sustains us, we eat whites for days (unregistered), Saturday, 7 July 2018 00:14 (seven years ago)

step #4 is presumably "eat it"

also lol @ HOOS's last post

― the yolk sustains us, we eat whites for days (unregistered), Saturday, 7 July 2018 00:15 (seven years ago)

a food processor

― j., Saturday, 7 July 2018 00:40 (seven years ago)

Not sure that's how ilxorz make resultant pastes.

― Bimlo Horsewagon became Wheelbarrow Horseflesh (aldo), Saturday, 7 July 2018 01:44 (seven years ago)

I tried dicing it but it wasn't as satisfying

― the yolk sustains us, we eat whites for days (unregistered), Saturday, 7 July 2018 02:05 (seven years ago)

The OP implies the use pre-sliced cheese. This is disgustingly savage and I refuse to countenance it.

― A is for (Aimless), Saturday, 7 July 2018 04:20 (seven years ago)

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