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No, not the band that did Mr. Wendal...

I'm talking about the new sitcom that debuted last night.

Nick thinks that since we enjoyed it, it will be canceled within a couple of weeks. :(

― Sarah McLUsky (coco), Monday, 3 November 2003 19:59 (twenty-one years ago)

Yes and because it has the combined starpower of Justin Bateman, Jeffrey Tambor, and David Cross.

― NA (Nick A.), Monday, 3 November 2003 20:06 (twenty-one years ago)

and the kid's name is GEORGE MICHAEL!!!

― Horace Mann (Horace Mann), Monday, 3 November 2003 20:07 (twenty-one years ago)

oh, and Sarah...
bladow!!
http://americanhistory.si.edu/presidency/images/medium/2000-6354_M.jpg

― Horace Mann (Horace Mann), Monday, 3 November 2003 20:09 (twenty-one years ago)

OK, I can see how some people might hate this: it's "quirky," has narration and David Cross, and I think most of the characters will quickly get annoying. But it made me laugh more than the Simpsons or King of the Hill last night.

― NA (Nick A.), Monday, 3 November 2003 20:09 (twenty-one years ago)

Oh no you didn't hit a woman with a pillow in front of her boyfriend. Shit. Now I gotta defend her honor.

http://www.american-allergy-supply.com/history/pillow-zipper-small.jpg
SHAZAM!

― NA (Nick A.), Monday, 3 November 2003 20:11 (twenty-one years ago)

http://www.stanford.edu/~lnutt/October/Roll%2011%20-%201.jpg

I can take all comers!

― Horace Mann (Horace Mann), Monday, 3 November 2003 20:12 (twenty-one years ago)

Horace, that's a very patriotic pillow up there. Are you fighting for America?

― Sarah McLusky (coco), Monday, 3 November 2003 20:17 (twenty-one years ago)

I am fighting WITH America...America is my pillow!

― Horace Mann (Horace Mann), Monday, 3 November 2003 20:28 (twenty-one years ago)

I taped it, but have not watched it yet. I doubt it will be as good as It's Your Move, but you never know.

― Nicolars (Nicole), Monday, 3 November 2003 20:36 (twenty-one years ago)

Who's hotter, Jason
http://todaysunderratedstars.20m.com/JB/pix/TeenWolfThumb.jpg

― Sarah MCLUsky (coco), Monday, 3 November 2003 20:38 (twenty-one years ago)

Or Justine?

http://www.familyties-tv.com/postcards/justine.jpg

― Sarah McLUSky (coco), Monday, 3 November 2003 20:39 (twenty-one years ago)

Come on, it has to be Jason! It's not even close.

― Nicolars (Nicole), Monday, 3 November 2003 20:40 (twenty-one years ago)

uh, unless you're a dude! (esp. if you're a dude of my generation, in which case justine is the hottest thing in the history of hotness because she was like one of the first females that ever looked hot to you)

― Horace Mann (Horace Mann), Monday, 3 November 2003 20:42 (twenty-one years ago)

I thought it was pretty dud -- I can't seem to remember it having that many jokes.

― Leee (Leee), Tuesday, 4 November 2003 00:11 (twenty-one years ago)

Though in its defense, I can't remember any of the gags on the Simpsons last night* either despite having laffed more.

*which was dud too

― Leee (Leee), Tuesday, 4 November 2003 00:13 (twenty-one years ago)

i'm not sure about it yet, but i LOVE to see jeffrey tambor back in action!

― s1utsky (slutsky), Tuesday, 4 November 2003 00:13 (twenty-one years ago)

When even the treehouses start to go ... I thought that was David Cross (only saw the commercial). As an isolated performer, how's he?

― brian nemtusak (sanlazaro), Tuesday, 4 November 2003 00:16 (twenty-one years ago)

Haha, I meant like 'on the show,' not like 'career trajectory' ...

― brian nemtusak (sanlazaro), Tuesday, 4 November 2003 00:18 (twenty-one years ago)

I caught like 20 minutes of this when I tuned in to the local Fox affiliate expecting to see the news but faced instead with this, delayed because of some earlier sports event or something. It was quirky. It was fun. It was offbeat. It was good.

I can only hope I can actually watch the second episode now.

― Many Coloured Halo (Dee the Lurker), Tuesday, 4 November 2003 05:10 (twenty-one years ago)

I was hoping to like it more than I did, but the best thing about it is that there's no laugh track.

― nickn (nickn), Tuesday, 4 November 2003 06:00 (twenty-one years ago)

the style is a bit grating

― s1utsky (slutsky), Tuesday, 4 November 2003 06:01 (twenty-one years ago)

one month passes...

Is anyone watching this regularly except for me and Sarah? Because it continues to crack me up consistently (some alliteration for all y'all). Very very silly but satisfying. Apparently Liza Minnelli and Henry Winkler are part of the show now, making the cast even more of an odd collection of has-been actors who are surprisingly good (Batemen, especially, is very, very good). I understand why people wouldn't like this (eg, it's very "quirky"), but it seems like more ILXors should be enjoying this. My favorite joke last night involved a very stern lawyer saying "I'll just duck behind this couch."

― NA (Nick A.), Monday, 15 December 2003 17:31 (twenty-one years ago)

I try to watch it, but Sunday nights are rough waters and oh yeah, I don't have TV.
But I've seen a couple (not last night's but the two previous) and I find myself just bewildered, but in a good way.
Bateman is really good.

― Huckleberry Mann (Horace Mann), Monday, 15 December 2003 17:34 (twenty-one years ago)

It's kind of Seinfeldy, but only in the way that each episode has lots of plot strings going on at once and then they suddenly converge and everything falls into place. It moves really fast, and I don't really know how much I would understand if I hadn't managed to catch (I think) every episode so far.

― NA (Nick A.), Monday, 15 December 2003 17:39 (twenty-one years ago)

I like how the kids get to be real kids too. Not precocious little smarm-bots like in most TV.

― Huckleberry Mann (Horace Mann), Monday, 15 December 2003 17:41 (twenty-one years ago)

Very few things keep me out of bed past 9:30 EST. This show is one of those things.

― quincie, Monday, 15 December 2003 17:49 (twenty-one years ago)

I like it. The style seems to be taken quite a bit from movies like "Rushmore" or "The Royal Tenenbaums".

David Cross' character and the son crack me up, but the entire cast is quite good.

It might work better as an hour long show.

― earlnash, Monday, 15 December 2003 18:50 (twenty-one years ago)

an hour long sitcom?

― Huckleberry Mann (Horace Mann), Monday, 15 December 2003 18:51 (twenty-one years ago)

I FUCKING LOVE THIS SHOW.

I'm pretty shocked it a full season since no one is watching it. The only bad part is the Ron Howard voiceover...no need for it.

― don weiner, Monday, 15 December 2003 18:52 (twenty-one years ago)

I agree with the need for length. I've only seen this weeks episode but the CYE style doesn't work so well with commercials cutting it up.

― Dean Gulberry (deangulberry), Monday, 15 December 2003 19:23 (twenty-one years ago)

I agree with lengthening it. It's always over way too fast. I want more!

― Sarah McLusky (coco), Monday, 15 December 2003 19:34 (twenty-one years ago)

It all happens so fast, you have to be careful not to laugh too hard or you'll miss something. Which may be the only reasonable argument for laughtracks.

― Huckleberry Mann (Horace Mann), Monday, 15 December 2003 19:36 (twenty-one years ago)

I am going to repost sarah's comment in one of the sex threads.

But yes, it should be longer. It should always be longer.

― Dean Gulberry (deangulberry), Monday, 15 December 2003 19:36 (twenty-one years ago)

i have missed all of these, are they up on bittorrent or anything?

― anthony kyle monday (akmonday), Monday, 15 December 2003 19:53 (twenty-one years ago)

David Cross's character was great on this week's episode. They explain about how he has a psychological problem where he can never be nude, so he always wears these tiny cut-off jean shorts. Yeah, and the kid who plays George Michael is great; he constantly looks bewildered.

― NA (Nick A.), Monday, 15 December 2003 19:56 (twenty-one years ago)

Great show so far. The narration doesn't even bug me - it gives the suggestion of overlying direction and allows for a few good gags. The show reminds me of Sports Night, except I didn't watch that show.

― Vinnie (vprabhu), Monday, 15 December 2003 20:56 (twenty-one years ago)

I like this show, but it seems like it still has some missing element that keeps it from being truly great. It will probably be one of those programs that really blossoms during the second season, if Fox is willing to renew it.

― El Diablo Robotico (Nicole), Monday, 15 December 2003 20:58 (twenty-one years ago)

Someone beat George Michael with a buttfugly stick.

It's amusing and fresh and I laugh, but no great shakes.

― Leee Iacocca (Leee), Monday, 15 December 2003 21:42 (twenty-one years ago)

Aww, George Michael is cute.

― NA (Nick A.), Monday, 15 December 2003 21:46 (twenty-one years ago)

The George Michael kid is hardly ugly, Lee. You are on crack.

― bnw (bnw), Monday, 15 December 2003 21:47 (twenty-one years ago)

"an hour long sitcom?"

It really isn't paced or setup like most sitcoms. With the continuing storylines, the only TV comedy that it can be readily compared towards is perhaps "Soap", but the pacing is much more frantic than that show.

― earlnash, Monday, 15 December 2003 22:56 (twenty-one years ago)

two weeks pass...

finally saw the marathon of these this week, it's good, it definitely improved around the 3rd episode; during the first two I kept wondering when Wes Anderson was going to file a lawsuit against the creators for ripping him off part and parcel. But, the style seemed to get away from that later on. The Liza Minelli character is excellent. Portia de Rossi is yum. I'm glad Jason Bateman's character fucked up because he was getting suffocatingly goody two shoes.

I particularly like the "on the next episode" bits at the end.

― anthony kyle monday (akmonday), Friday, 2 January 2004 16:33 (twenty-one years ago)

Yeah, was very glad to watch the marathon, because I had always felt like I was missing something since I hadn't seen the first few episodes. Turns out no, but was still glad to see them.

― Huckleberry Mann (Horace Mann), Friday, 2 January 2004 16:36 (twenty-one years ago)

I'm pissed I missed it!

ps jeffrey tambor is this generation's funniest actor

― s1ocki (slutsky), Friday, 2 January 2004 17:00 (twenty-one years ago)

you're the same age/generation as Tambor?
I had no idea you were O-L-D.

― Huckleberry Mann (Horace Mann), Friday, 2 January 2004 17:04 (twenty-one years ago)

I meant his generation

― s1ocki (slutsky), Friday, 2 January 2004 17:09 (twenty-one years ago)

whatever, you're OLD.

s locki is old! Whaddaya gonna do oldie old guy? hit me with your cane?

― Huckleberry Mann (Horace Mann), Friday, 2 January 2004 17:10 (twenty-one years ago)

*wheeze*

― s1ocki (slutsky), Friday, 2 January 2004 17:11 (twenty-one years ago)

six months pass...

Yay! It's up for some Emmys! So it might actually be on for a little while hopefully!

― St. Nicholas (Nick A.), Friday, 16 July 2004 18:04 (twenty-one years ago)

I downloaded the first series a while ago and watched it all in more-or-less one sitting, commercial free.

While it's very funny, I also found it incredibly unsatisfying. It never goes anywhere, there are always allusions to the characters developing or maturing in some way, but they never do. Even in the season finale they're all exactly the same.

Still, good viewing. And yeah, Portia is one spicy minx.

― Andrew (enneff), Sunday, 18 July 2004 02:15 (twenty-one years ago)

one month passes...

I love this show. Glad it's on regular TV

― roger adultery (roger adultery), Sunday, 22 August 2004 23:50 (twenty-one years ago)

i was gonna revive this thread tonight! But i was gonna say that even though i really like it i can live without it and if they cancelled it i wouldn't bemoan the fact and cry to the heavens that the world was unfair and that it was too good for t.v. it almost feels like they are conciously making a cult show that will get cancelled and be remembered fondly by critics and have a loving dvd package released in its honor. It already feels cancelled!

― scott seward (scott seward), Monday, 23 August 2004 00:34 (twenty-one years ago)

i agree 100%. I'll definitely buy the DVD though - it's The State for my mid twenties

The time off did Jason B well - he's hysterical

― roger adultery (roger adultery), Monday, 23 August 2004 00:52 (twenty-one years ago)

i like his son. he's got a great delivery.

― scott seward (scott seward), Monday, 23 August 2004 00:58 (twenty-one years ago)

Jessica said the same thing. George Michael is indeed great.

Michael is my favorite though - his expression totally captures that "I'm being calm right now, but all of you fuckers are out of your goddamm minds" look I picture Sedaris having when he narrates about his family.

― roger adultery (roger adultery), Monday, 23 August 2004 01:03 (twenty-one years ago)

you got yourself a stew

― cinniblount (James Blount), Monday, 23 August 2004 01:15 (twenty-one years ago)

Re: George Michael's delivery, apparantly a lot of the show is improvised, so, like double kudos to this kid.

I can't wait for the DVD, because I think I miss a lot of jokes, because I laugh so much during the broadcast.

― Huck, Monday, 23 August 2004 13:51 (twenty-one years ago)

Cast and characters of Arrested Development share a certain outspokenness
By Bridget Byrne
LOS ANGELES (AP) — There aren’t many words the Bluths won’t let fly out of their mouths — especially when it comes to putting down other family members.
The actors who play the out-of-whack Bluths in the Fox sitcom Arrested Development were equally outspoken in a recent question-and-answer session following a public reading of the pilot episode at a California theatre.
“It’s nice to see Jason in something you can watch,” quipped Will Arnett, topping Jason Bateman’s admission that the series was “so not” what he’d done before.
Once the star of such traditional sitcoms as Silver Spoons and The Hogan Family, Bateman plays Michael, the most normal Bluth, who’s faced with the emotional and financial messes created by his once wealthy but now cash-strapped family.
Arnett plays Michael’s older brother, Gob, a philandering magician who prefers to be called an illusionist.
Though no ratings smash, Arrested Development has been critically praised for its innovative style and humour and last month picked up seven Emmy nominations, including for best comedy series, writing and casting.
“We are here tonight for some shameless Emmy pandering,” creator Mitchell Hurwitz cracked as he came on stage to join the cast after the reading.
Besides Bateman and Arnett, there was Portia de Rossi, who plays self-absorbed sister Lindsay, and Tony Hale, who plays little brother Buster.
Alongside were the show’s older and younger generations: Jessica Walter as manipulative mother Lucille; Jeffrey Tambor as jailbird father George; Michael Cera as Michael’s earnest son, George Michael, and Alia Shawkat as Maeby, Lindsay’s self-sufficient daughter.
Absent was David Cross, who plays Tobias Funke, Lindsay’s husband, a doctor turned actor.
The series is shot in the single-camera method on sets and locations, not in the standard sitcom style with multiple cameras before a studio audience. There’s no laugh track.
The family crises are captured as if for a documentary, with voiceover spoken by director Ron Howard, an executive producer of the show along with Imagine Television partner Brian Grazer.
The reality television device is not used as overtly as it is in the British comedy The Office, but, Hurwitz said, “I still think of it as documentary, so I don’t do dream sequences, don’t have strict point-of-view shots ... and I won’t do a flashback that doesn’t make sense.”
Everyone in the cast expressed happiness with their gig.
“I didn’t think at this point in my career I would be so fortunate” said Walter, whose extensive resume includes the role of homicidal stalker in the 1971 thriller Play Misty for Me.
Bateman referred to a Hurwitz comment that it is the writers’ job is to make the characters “as despicable as possible. Our job is to make them as likable as possible.”
On stage, Hurwitz didn’t demur, but later at a party at Grazer’s home said he didn’t want to settle for sounding “so glib” in typecasting the characters as an unethical, uncaring bunch.
“In a way, I think the show is kind of manipulative because I think these are really good people. We start out with this lie that all these people hate each other, and then every time they hug it’s a little more effective and affective,” Hurwitz said, grinning. “I never really saw this (show) as being dark and cynical.”
The title works as a reference to the upheaval caused by Orange County, Calif., property developer George Sr. being sent to prison for financial impropriety, and also as an overall theme.
“I wanted there to be some point to this experience and that sort of started presenting itself to me as how their money, success and stature had kept them from developing as human beings ... but now they are becoming better people,” said Hurwitz.

― Huck, Tuesday, 24 August 2004 13:49 (twenty-one years ago)

Why is it still worth mentioning when sitcoms don't have laughtracks?

― Huck, Tuesday, 24 August 2004 13:54 (twenty-one years ago)

Because there are still a lot of corny sitcom fuxxx.

― Leon Czolgosz (Nicole), Tuesday, 24 August 2004 13:59 (twenty-one years ago)

Does Life According to Jim have a laughtrack?

― Huck, Tuesday, 24 August 2004 14:00 (twenty-one years ago)

Probably...

― Leon Czolgosz (Nicole), Tuesday, 24 August 2004 14:02 (twenty-one years ago)

Did Seinfeld have a....yeah, it did, because they used to clap every time Kramer came in.

― Huck, Tuesday, 24 August 2004 14:03 (twenty-one years ago)

seinfeld was at least actually taped in front of an audience, although there was obviously a lot of sweetening going on.

― kyle (akmonday), Tuesday, 24 August 2004 14:06 (twenty-one years ago)

Laugh tracks are so out of place in shows that obviously are filmied on location instead of in a studio. Have you watched an episode of "Love Boat" lately? Are those people really following everyone around a boat, laughing at everything?

― Pleasant Plains (Pleasant Plains), Tuesday, 24 August 2004 15:08 (twenty-one years ago)

The show is so funny that you can hear the laughter of other people watching the same show on their TV sets across the country echoing over this great land.

― n.a. (Nick A.), Tuesday, 24 August 2004 15:35 (twenty-one years ago)

"I think I've made a big mistake."

― Huck, Tuesday, 24 August 2004 15:37 (twenty-one years ago)

And why were all the hispanic people named "Ermano"? Is that like "Jose" or something?

― Not Aja (Pleasant Plains), Tuesday, 24 August 2004 23:04 (twenty-one years ago)

Me, n3rdily visiting the spot where the "banana stand" scenes are filmed:

http://www.geocities.com/bluthbananas/pix/twopcon01/twop15.jpg

― morris pavilion (samjeff), Tuesday, 24 August 2004 23:29 (twenty-one years ago)

three weeks pass...

Emmy for Best Comedy Series!

― n/a (Nick A.), Monday, 20 September 2004 13:57 (twenty-one years ago)

I must have missed that part of the show, as I was WATCHING A/D last night! Ha ha ha ha. Canada is awesome.

― Huk-L, Monday, 20 September 2004 13:59 (twenty-one years ago)

Whoooooooooooooooo

― Vinnie (vprabhu), Monday, 20 September 2004 14:06 (twenty-one years ago)

They won best writing and best direction too!
But George Michael didn't win best actor.

― Huk-L, Monday, 20 September 2004 14:07 (twenty-one years ago)

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It won THREE Emmys.

Outstanding Comedy Series
Arrested Development - FOX

Outstanding Directing For A Comedy Series
Arrested Development - Pilot - FOX

Outstanding Writing For A Comedy Series
Arrested Development - Pilot

Also:
Outstanding Variety, Music Or Comedy Series
The Daily Show With Jon Stewart - Show #8037 - Comedy Central

Outstanding Writing For A Variety, Music Or Comedy Program
The Daily Show With Jon Stewart - Comedy Central

Outstanding Reality-Competition Program
The Amazing Race - CBS

― dave225 (Dave225), Monday, 20 September 2004 14:08 (twenty-one years ago)

THe bit with Gary Shandling and Jeffrey Tambour was awesome. Hey now!

― Huk-L, Monday, 20 September 2004 14:09 (twenty-one years ago)

Bump.

This has now hit the UK, 10pm Weds BBC2. I watched episode 1 (well, in fact it was the pilot) last night after a gig, and absolutely loved it. It has a Tenenbaum-esque dysfunctionality about it which I can only encourage, and some great great performances too.

So three cheers for great US comedy...any other Poms/Limeys/Brits/etc care to comment?

― CharlieNo4 (Charlie), Thursday, 30 September 2004 10:49 (twenty-one years ago)

I 'watched' it without really paying much attention (was trying to update my blog at the time). Seemed pretty good, though.

― caitlin (caitlin), Thursday, 30 September 2004 10:52 (twenty-one years ago)

i really liked the first episode, but then switched over to BBC4 to watch the 2nd, and found some of the dialogue and characters so much more irritating i felt like switching it off at times

when the emphasis on self-justifying/self-deluding aspects of selfish characters increases so far that they are effectively indulging in shouty monologue instead of playing clever with dialogue/perceptions/others it isn't that funny anymore, and i find them so annoying i just want to see them getting injured

there were moments when the orthogonality of fractious dialogue sank to hollyoaks levels of crapulence

i'll probably watch next week just in case ep2 was a dud

― Snowy Mann (rdmanston), Thursday, 30 September 2004 14:05 (twenty-one years ago)

The irony is, I didn't understand a word of that post.

― n/a (Nick A.), Thursday, 30 September 2004 14:08 (twenty-one years ago)

And why were all the hispanic people named "Ermano"?

ha ha ha ha ha ha I wonder if Aja's bedtime comes before the end of the episode.

― nickalicious (nickalicious), Thursday, 30 September 2004 14:08 (twenty-one years ago)

One of my favorite things about this show is how dispicicable almost all of the charatctos all.

― nickalicious (nickalicious), Thursday, 30 September 2004 14:10 (twenty-one years ago)

"charatctos"

― nickalicious (nickalicious), Thursday, 30 September 2004 14:10 (twenty-one years ago)

"dispicicable"

― n/a (Nick A.), Thursday, 30 September 2004 14:13 (twenty-one years ago)

i saw it with the sound off in the pub where i was quizzing last night. so i don't know if it's any good.

but MY GOD i used to have a crush on jason bateman. i loved him so much. i thought he was cute in dodgeball, as well. and he even looked cute (if a little chubby) in this show. i'll probably start watching it, if for no other reason.

― colette (a2lette), Thursday, 30 September 2004 14:17 (twenty-one years ago)

lucky you

― Snowy Mann (rdmanston), Thursday, 30 September 2004 14:39 (twenty-one years ago)

(to n/a)

― Snowy Mann (rdmanston), Thursday, 30 September 2004 14:40 (twenty-one years ago)

I should never type when I'm drowsy.

― nickalicious (nickalicious), Thursday, 30 September 2004 14:40 (twenty-one years ago)

the series only got better as the season went along (from what I saw of it) so stick with it. out on dvd in a few weeks I think in the US.

― kyle (akmonday), Thursday, 30 September 2004 15:25 (twenty-one years ago)

Holy shit, Morris - is that a Bluth Company jacket you're wearing?! Nicely done... does it have an embroidered Baby Banana Grabber on the back?
After your banana did you go to the Gothic Castle for drinks?
Jesus Christ, I love that show. I'm all geeked out for it.

― Taxi Dancing in the Soft Prison (Ben Boyer), Thursday, 30 September 2004 16:45 (twenty-one years ago)

Morrissey asked the DC crowd what we thought of Arrested Development, and didn't really get any response, and didn't go on to say anything more about it, and I couldn't figure out why he mentioned it, though I noticed up thread that Henry Winkler is in it, whose son is Moz's tour manager, so maybe that's why?

― Mary (Mary), Sunday, 3 October 2004 22:40 (twenty-one years ago)

Probably...?

― Leon Czolgosz (Nicole), Sunday, 3 October 2004 22:53 (twenty-one years ago)

Season One DVD out on Tuesday (Oct. 19th). 22 episodes + pilot. Awesome.

― n/a (Nick A.), Friday, 15 October 2004 20:44 (twenty-one years ago)

three months pass...

Hey, it was really good tonight.

(and Paul Feig directed!)

― Remy IS THE Snush (x Jeremy), Monday, 17 January 2005 04:57 (twenty years ago)

OTM. I loved the niece getting the movie job.

― Shmool McShmool (shmuel), Monday, 17 January 2005 05:00 (twenty years ago)

I need to get the first season on DVD so badly. I would seriously watch it over and over. Sometimes I get the "Big Yellow Joint" song stuck in my head.

― Pears can just fuck right off. (kenan), Monday, 17 January 2005 06:54 (twenty years ago)

It's getting creepier, in a good way, what with the "Afternoon Delight" episode a few weeks ago and George Michael saying "Maybe now I can get a kiss" and his dad kissing him in last night's episode.

― n/a (Nick A.), Monday, 17 January 2005 13:46 (twenty years ago)

They're all turning into Buster!

(and loved the JJJ cameo!)

― Huk-L, Monday, 17 January 2005 16:45 (twenty years ago)

"You mean the guy we're supposed to meet with can't even grow his own hair? COME ON!"

― La Monte (La Monte), Monday, 17 January 2005 17:04 (twenty years ago)

Watched it twice. Painfully labored and unfunny.

― Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Monday, 17 January 2005 17:13 (twenty years ago)

Have another donut, you fat pig!!

(yes dr morb that is directed at you)

― jimmy crackhorn (don maynard), Monday, 17 January 2005 17:21 (twenty years ago)

"COME ON!" is the Season 2 equivalent of "I've made a horrible mistake."

I did think that this was a weaker than usual episode, but not much.

And Paul Feig did a couple of episodes last season, too. Anybody else read his book?

― Huk-L, Monday, 17 January 2005 17:45 (twenty years ago)

"COME ON!" is the Season 2 equivalent of "I've made a horrible mistake."

Or "Annyong"

― dave225 (Dave225), Monday, 17 January 2005 17:49 (twenty years ago)

"Yes, we know your name is Annyong!"

― Huk-L, Monday, 17 January 2005 17:50 (twenty years ago)

PS, I'm still killing myself over the scenes where Gob was kept inflating the price of his suit and how that price precluded him from so many things, COME ON!

― Huk-L, Monday, 17 January 2005 17:52 (twenty years ago)

Yes, the suit price bit was ... priceless.

― dave225 (Dave225), Monday, 17 January 2005 17:54 (twenty years ago)

This show actually reminds me of an adult The ADventures of Pete and Pete.

― S!monB!rch (Carey), Monday, 17 January 2005 17:56 (twenty years ago)

Yeah, this episode wasn't quite as good as the rest of the season, but what with the rest of the season being INCREDIBLY AMAZING i can forgive it. I mean, don't get me wrong, GOB with the girls on the softball team was hilarious, but nothing on the episode came close to "We've got balls, turn it around..."

― lemin (lemin), Monday, 17 January 2005 17:57 (twenty years ago)

or david cross going "that's my wife and nephew! we're in an open relationship!"

― lemin (lemin), Monday, 17 January 2005 17:58 (twenty years ago)

Or Andy Richter telling the two identical clowns that he has to fire one of them!

― Huk-L, Monday, 17 January 2005 18:02 (twenty years ago)

I really think it's pretty dumb when a show introduces someone's twin sibling, as played by someone already on the show. See also Samanth/Esmeralda, Jeannie/Evil Jeannie...

― Pleasant Plains /// (Pleasant Plains ///), Monday, 17 January 2005 18:06 (twenty years ago)

Samanth/Esmeralda
Samanth/Serena

― dave225 (Dave225), Monday, 17 January 2005 18:07 (twenty years ago)

But if you watch the Season One DVDs, you see how far in advance so many of these things were set up. And, um, would rather that Oscar Bluth was played by someone else? Ed Begley, perhaps?

― Huk-L, Monday, 17 January 2005 18:08 (twenty years ago)

xpost
aww but Oscar has some great moments! "maybe i'll put it in her brownie..."

― lemin (lemin), Monday, 17 January 2005 18:09 (twenty years ago)

Touche, dave225. Did Jeannie's sister even have a name?

― Pleasant Plains /// (Pleasant Plains ///), Monday, 17 January 2005 18:27 (twenty years ago)

From tvland.com:

"The First Annual TV Land Awards Show saw Barbara Eden walk off with the Viewer's Choice for Favorite in a Dual Role for her role as Jeannie and her sister Jeannie."

And her mother's name was "Mrs. Jeannie", according to tvtome.com

― dave225 (Dave225), Monday, 17 January 2005 18:31 (twenty years ago)

Hmmm. Kinda like all the George Foreman's.

― Pleasant Plains /// (Pleasant Plains ///), Monday, 17 January 2005 18:38 (twenty years ago)

Or the Bluth's: George, Oscar, George Oscar (Gob), Michael, George Michael, Buster (is that his given name?).

― Huk-L, Monday, 17 January 2005 18:50 (twenty years ago)

three weeks pass...

Anyone else notice the thematic satirical undercurrent?

Bluth family=Bush family.

George Bluth Sr and George Bluth Jr (George Bush Sr and George Bush Jr) run the family company, the father in jail for building housing developments in Iraq over Saddam's weapons of mass destruction and the son trying to fix the mess the family company's in? The one speech Michael gives to George Michael about how good a thing pre-emptive strikes are? Lucille and Barbara Bush, out of touch socialite bitches? The fact that no one in the family understands reality and most of them live on credit?
It's probably just me.

― spockist, Monday, 7 February 2005 17:29 (twenty years ago)

That's a stretch.

― Pears can just fuck right off. (kenan), Monday, 7 February 2005 17:34 (twenty years ago)

I admit it. It's probably just me. Just checking to see if anyone else thought the same.

― spockist, Monday, 7 February 2005 17:36 (twenty years ago)

No, there's been some deliberate paralells between GOB and GWB.

― Leon the Fatboy (Ex Leon), Monday, 7 February 2005 18:02 (twenty years ago)

I think it's a stretch to say it's a comprehensive analogy, but like Leon sez, there have been some very deliberate parallels. But...GHWB was never in jail, Henry Winkler's lawyer character is hardly Karl Rove, and I don't think Barbara Bush the Elder has ever really come across as a socialite? More like Matron.

Another parallel I've noticed is between GOB and this Canadian hypnotist Wayne Lee (he bills himself as the Hip-Notist), there's a documentary showing on the Canadian Documentary Channel about Lee called "The Deeper You Go" and Lee uses some very similar stage antics to GOB's act...and Will Arnett (who plays GOB) is Canadian.

― Huk-L, Monday, 7 February 2005 18:11 (twenty years ago)

Gob has become the best character on the show. I didn't see this week's episode, but last week had him reading items off of the country club menu in a seductive voice to Liza Minnelli. "Fried cheese...with club sauce. Chicken fingers...with club sauce."

― n/a (Nick A.), Monday, 7 February 2005 18:20 (twenty years ago)

There was no episode this week, Nick. Don't worry.

― Huk-L, Monday, 7 February 2005 18:23 (twenty years ago)

Also: http://www.waynelee.com/

― Huk-L, Monday, 7 February 2005 18:24 (twenty years ago)

GOB is the best character, and in a weird way I find him really hot. The character, not the actor.

― Leon the Fatboy (Ex Leon), Monday, 7 February 2005 18:24 (twenty years ago)

http://www.mamut.com/homepages/United_States/2/9/usafestivals/deeper.jpg

A while ago, I was talking to a friend of mine, and her cell phone went off, and it was "The Final Countdown", and I said, "I love Arrested Development, too!"
And she said, "What?"

― Huk-L, Monday, 7 February 2005 18:30 (twenty years ago)

"Fried cheese...with club sauce. Chicken fingers...with club sauce."

This was perhaps the funniest thing ever.

― adam (adam), Monday, 7 February 2005 19:02 (twenty years ago)

Thank you for validating me.

― n/a (Nick A.), Monday, 7 February 2005 20:06 (twenty years ago)

Nick, get over to the TITWIS and say hi at least.

― Huk-L, Monday, 7 February 2005 20:23 (twenty years ago)

That bit with the country club menu = a little bit of wee came out.

The guy that plays Gob is married to Amy Poehler from SNL.

This show has ruined so many songs for me - most especially 'The Final Countdown' and 'Afternoon Delight'.

― nickalicious (nickalicious), Monday, 7 February 2005 20:28 (twenty years ago)

Amy Poehler played a character who married Gob in several episodes (the ones with J-L Dreyfus)! Art imitates life?

― Huk-L, Monday, 7 February 2005 20:30 (twenty years ago)

My secret, shameful love for Amy Poehler almost eclipses my secret, shameful love for Tina Fey.

― adam (adam), Monday, 7 February 2005 20:33 (twenty years ago)

Ditto.

― n/a (Nick A.), Monday, 7 February 2005 20:35 (twenty years ago)

More like Tina Meh!

― Huk-L, Monday, 7 February 2005 20:49 (twenty years ago)

Tonight on Charlie Rose!
”Arrested Development”
JASON BATEMAN, Actor
BRIAN GRAZER & RON HOWARD, Executive Producers
MITCHELL HURWITZ, Creator / Head Writer

― Huk-L, Tuesday, 8 February 2005 15:35 (twenty years ago)

Best line so far: "Yeah, like anyone would want to 'r' her."

Now I want a rape horn.

― sugarpants (sugarpants), Tuesday, 8 February 2005 15:41 (twenty years ago)

Gob is my hero. I was watching my DVD set a while ago, and the episode where Michael is dating George Michael's Ethics Teacher (Heather Graham) has so many awesome Gob scenes.

― Huk-L, Tuesday, 8 February 2005 15:51 (twenty years ago)

"Fried cheese...with club sauce. Chicken fingers...with club sauce."

This was perhaps the funniest thing ever.

that is true.

― cutty (mcutt), Tuesday, 8 February 2005 16:17 (twenty years ago)

GOB doing the cukoo cukoo dance is so fucking classic.

― cutty (mcutt), Tuesday, 8 February 2005 16:20 (twenty years ago)

Popcorn Shrimp ... with SPICY CLUB SAUCE

― lemin (lemin), Tuesday, 8 February 2005 17:13 (twenty years ago)

I really really want a cornballer.

― S!monB!rch (Carey), Tuesday, 8 February 2005 20:52 (twenty years ago)

Thinking back, I suspect my favorite moment so far in this show's short history was the moment Atty. Henry Winkler recognized the pictures purporting to be hiding sites of Iraqi WMDs as BALLS.

― nickalicious (nickalicious), Tuesday, 8 February 2005 20:56 (twenty years ago)

OH god.

― Huk-L, Tuesday, 8 February 2005 20:58 (twenty years ago)

I was watching the Happy Days reunion last week and was very disappointed they made no mention of AD. But god. Every Winkler appearance is guaranteed pants-wetting laughter on this show.

― Huk-L, Tuesday, 8 February 2005 21:02 (twenty years ago)

yeah the whole 2 minute long balls sequence was AMAZING

― lemin (lemin), Tuesday, 8 February 2005 21:39 (twenty years ago)

Am I the only one who thinks 'fuck mountain' was this shows finest moment?

― Dude, are you a 15 year old asian chick? (jingleberries), Tuesday, 8 February 2005 22:25 (twenty years ago)

nothing in season 2 has been as good as the last episode in season 1 when GOB says:

BEES!? BEES!?

― cutty (mcutt), Tuesday, 8 February 2005 22:27 (twenty years ago)

Charlie Rose was okay. Having four people on made it a little crazy, with so much precious time eaten up by laughter.

― Huk-L, Wednesday, 9 February 2005 07:07 (twenty years ago)

FUCK MOUNTAIN. I would live there.

― nickalicious (nickalicious), Wednesday, 9 February 2005 13:42 (twenty years ago)

GOB is a true visionary.

― Leon the Fatboy (Ex Leon), Wednesday, 9 February 2005 14:13 (twenty years ago)

a visionary with stripper pants.

― S!monB!rch (Carey), Wednesday, 9 February 2005 14:17 (twenty years ago)

They need to bring back the bounty hunter.

― Earl Nash (earlnash), Wednesday, 9 February 2005 15:47 (twenty years ago)

How about a round of applause for Liza Minelli? Who thought that she would ever return to the public eye in such a wonderful way?

― Huk-L, Wednesday, 9 February 2005 15:50 (twenty years ago)

from the hollywood reporter:

Feb. 09, 2005

Fox shakes up Sundays for 'Dad'

Fox Broadcasting Co. plans to shuffle its Sunday comedy lineup in May to make room for the addition of "American Dad" on May 1. As part of the schedule change, the network has opted to reduce the episode order on "Arrested Development," but the specifics still are being worked out. As of May 1, "American Dad" will slide into "Arrested's" 8:30 p.m. slot behind "The Simpsons." For the first three weeks of the month, "Dad" will be followed at 9 p.m. by another original "Simpsons" episode. (Staff report)

: (

― firstworldman (firstworldman), Wednesday, 9 February 2005 20:55 (twenty years ago)

This is Andy Richter Controls The Universe all over again. I hate Fox.

― Huk-L, Wednesday, 9 February 2005 21:00 (twenty years ago)

Fuck Fox. What's wrong with them? First they cancel Kindred: The Embraced, now this?

― adam (adam), Wednesday, 9 February 2005 21:04 (twenty years ago)

So let's try to save it. COME ON!

Gail Berman
Fox Broadcasting Entertainment President
Fox Headquarters
10201 West Pico Blvd
Los Angeles CA
90035.

or:

Gail Berman, President
Fox Broadcasting Company
P.O. Box 900
Beverly Hills, California
90213

E-mail: gail.berman@fox.com

Fox's Viewer Comment Hotline: 1-800-369-6848

― rocknrolldetox (rocknrolldetox), Wednesday, 9 February 2005 21:13 (twenty years ago)

AMERICAN DAD SUCKS. I love the Family Guy, but that post-superbowl episode was crap.

― Dude, are you a 15 year old asian chick? (jingleberries), Wednesday, 9 February 2005 21:19 (twenty years ago)

Email sent. Should I write a letter as well?

― Fish fingers all in a line (kenan), Wednesday, 9 February 2005 21:22 (twenty years ago)

American Dad blew goats.

― Leon the Fatboy (Ex Leon), Wednesday, 9 February 2005 21:23 (twenty years ago)

fucking idiots.

oh well-- MARTIN SHORT IS ON ARRESTED DEVELOPMENT THIS SUNDAY!!

― cutty (mcutt), Wednesday, 9 February 2005 21:24 (twenty years ago)

Email sent. Should I misspell a sign and camp out in front of their building as well?

― adam (adam), Wednesday, 9 February 2005 21:33 (twenty years ago)

"GET A DECENT SUNDAY NIGHT LINEUP MORANS"

― adam (adam), Wednesday, 9 February 2005 21:33 (twenty years ago)

"PUT THE SIMPSONS OUT OF THEIR MISERY, YOU CRUEL BASTARDS"

― Fish fingers all in a line (kenan), Wednesday, 9 February 2005 21:34 (twenty years ago)

I guess that's not misspelled. Still.

― Fish fingers all in a line (kenan), Wednesday, 9 February 2005 21:36 (twenty years ago)

Every time I think about the "...with club sauce" thing it makes me happy and my work day seems a little less endless. WHY DOES FOX WANT MY WORK DAY TO SEEM ENDLESS? etc

― adam (adam), Wednesday, 9 February 2005 21:39 (twenty years ago)

i'm going to watch the "club sauce" episode again.. RIGHT NOW

― cutty (mcutt), Wednesday, 9 February 2005 21:41 (twenty years ago)

evidently David Cross has been hinting about the show being cancelled ... on Jimmy Kimmel's show or something? i don't exactly know the details and whether he/they are true

― lemin (lemin), Thursday, 10 February 2005 07:20 (twenty years ago)

this all obviously belongs on the awful disheartining news thread

― lemin (lemin), Thursday, 10 February 2005 07:25 (twenty years ago)

the fact that he has said that on JIMMY KIMMEL'S show is even more disheartening.

― Riot Gear! (Gear!), Thursday, 10 February 2005 08:23 (twenty years ago)

I wouldn't worry too much about AD. For one, Fox probably isn't going to cancel it right away - it currently has a quarterly schedule, and just cos they aren't going to show it in the summer, it doesn't mean it won't be back in the fall. Also, I think that it's VERY VERY VERY likely that if Fox gives up on the show, it will end up moving over to FX, which would be a much better home for the series.

― Matthew C Perpetua (inca), Thursday, 10 February 2005 08:29 (twenty years ago)

Plus, American Dad sucks so much ass, it probably won't last through more than that initial run, y'all. It'll be like Futurama only not even ONE entire season, and not funny.

― known vaginatarian (nickalicious), Thursday, 10 February 2005 13:28 (twenty years ago)

Doesn't Fox realize that Arrested Development could have a very healthy life in syndication as well? Unlike AI or 24.

― Huk-L, Thursday, 10 February 2005 14:46 (twenty years ago)

yeah, david cross was on kimmel last night, and his whole schtick was being depressed from just finding out yesterday that the show was going to be cancelled. it was sad/funny.

but this is also funny:

"David Cross didn't want to do television. He really avoided it. We were really lucky, because he really responded... to the money we offered. The script factored into it, but, boy, he really perked up when he heard about the money."

― cutty (mcutt), Thursday, 10 February 2005 16:38 (twenty years ago)

taken from:

http://www.theonionavclub.com/feature/index.php?issue=4106

THE GOLDEN GIRLS?

― cutty (mcutt), Thursday, 10 February 2005 16:41 (twenty years ago)

Doesn't Fox realize that Arrested Development could have a very healthy life in syndication as well? Unlike AI or 24.

The network itself might not get a big cut of that action - I think that usually goes more to the studio and the people who worked on the show and have some backend in their deals.

― Matthew C Perpetua (inca), Thursday, 10 February 2005 16:43 (twenty years ago)

Yeah, but they could at least take pride in having stewarded such a wonderful show.

― Huk-L, Thursday, 10 February 2005 16:57 (twenty years ago)

I'm not sure Fox is familiar with the whole idea of "pride." They seem more "shame"-oriented.

― adam (adam), Thursday, 10 February 2005 17:00 (twenty years ago)

I was being naive. Or sarcastic. Take your pick.

this (from the AV Club article) is brilliant:

So there were things like that that I was just doing to stack the deck in our favor. Including the "On the next Arrested Development…" Which is a very presumptuous thing to put at the end of the pilot, because it's just a pilot. So the people screening it in New York, the advertisers, think "Oh, is there another one? I didn't realize we'd made this decision yet." But it also upped the test scores. One of the questions they asked of the test audiences after they screened the pilot is "Would you see it again?" It was a great way to get those numbers high. It was like, "Oh, I have to. There's another one coming."

― Huk-L, Thursday, 10 February 2005 17:07 (twenty years ago)

That whole interview is great, much better than the dull Amy Sherman-Palladino one. I'm always disappointed by her--in the making-of featurette on the GG Season 1 dvds she's wearing this ridiculous 4 Non Blondes hat.

― adam (adam), Thursday, 10 February 2005 17:21 (twenty years ago)

Gilmore Girls is the 4 Non Blondes of television. The sooner people are able to accept this, the happier they will be.

― Leon the Fatboy (Ex Leon), Thursday, 10 February 2005 18:07 (twenty years ago)

But don't some people actually like Gilmore Girls?

― Huk-L, Thursday, 10 February 2005 18:09 (twenty years ago)

Some people bought "What's Up?" too.

― Leon the Fatboy (Ex Leon), Thursday, 10 February 2005 18:14 (twenty years ago)

Some people. God love 'em.

― Huk-L, Thursday, 10 February 2005 18:15 (twenty years ago)

Gilmore Girls is amazing, and the current season is the best one yet. Word is bond.

― Matthew C Perpetua (inca), Thursday, 10 February 2005 18:20 (twenty years ago)

I'm gonna go revive the Gilmore Girls thread. I'm dismayed at Huk and Nicole's Gilmore-dismissal.

― adam (adam), Thursday, 10 February 2005 18:32 (twenty years ago)

I am a Gilmore churl.

― Leon the Fatboy (Ex Leon), Thursday, 10 February 2005 18:40 (twenty years ago)

More from the AV Club:

[Carl Weathers] hasn't been on yet, but he's got a part in a biopic about the Bluth family, and he's playing the role of Ice, the bounty hunter, who we established earlier in the season. So he's playing the part of someone that we saw two episodes earlier.

― Huk-L, Thursday, 10 February 2005 18:40 (twenty years ago)

I think I just had a Gilmore Hurl in my mouth.

― Huk-L, Thursday, 10 February 2005 18:43 (twenty years ago)

Just got this from Fox:

Dear Arrested Development Fans:

Thank you for your e-mail and your passionate support of Arrested
Development. While the show has finished production for its second
season, contrary to the rumors you may have heard or read on the
internet, it is NOT cancelled.

We at FOX love Arrested Development and we look forward to having the
Bluth family back on FOX in the future - hopefully for many years. You
can help make the show a bigger success by getting as many people as
possible to start watching the show this Sunday and every Sunday at 8:30
p.m. ET/PT.

Sincerely,

Fox Broadcasting Company

― adam (adam), Friday, 11 February 2005 15:13 (twenty years ago)

Told you so.

― Matthew C Perpetua (inca), Friday, 11 February 2005 15:18 (twenty years ago)

That'll teach 'em.

― Huk-L, Friday, 11 February 2005 15:18 (twenty years ago)

THERE IS A GOD. Or maybe there isn't, but at least there's still an ARRESTED DEVELOPMENT, and that's good enough for me.

― known vaginatarian (nickalicious), Friday, 11 February 2005 15:20 (twenty years ago)

I hope they read the part of my email where I advised them to get rid of Family Guy and American Dad and basically everything that whatshisname has anything to do with because THEY SUCK.

But yay! More Arrested Development to brighten my Sunday night.

― adam (adam), Friday, 11 February 2005 15:50 (twenty years ago)

Hurwitz is God.

― Huk-L, Friday, 11 February 2005 15:53 (twenty years ago)

I think that Fox wants to have its cake and eat it too, basically - they can run Arrested Development enough for it to rack up awards and prestige, and they can sub shlockier shows to get more ratings when necessary. They have a quarterly schedule which allows them a lot of leeway in pushing shows around, so it all works out, at least for now. I mean, they don't air 24 for big chunks of year, that never meant that it was cancelled. People just need to be aware of the scheduling.

― Matthew C Perpetua (inca), Friday, 11 February 2005 15:59 (twenty years ago)

Has Andy Richter Controls the Universe been cancelled yet?

― Huk-L, Friday, 11 February 2005 16:03 (twenty years ago)

Andy seems pretty busy scraping the bottom of the barrel with Quintuplets.

Fox needs to bring back Greg the Bunny. I downloaded the whole series last week and marveled at the funny.

― adam (adam), Friday, 11 February 2005 16:08 (twenty years ago)

Really? I thought it was very unfunny, considering all of the talent involved.

― Leon the Fatboy (Ex Leon), Friday, 11 February 2005 16:22 (twenty years ago)

Andy Richter Controls The Universe is definitely cancelled!

I thought Greg The Bunny kinda sucked too.

― Matthew C Perpetua (inca), Friday, 11 February 2005 16:23 (twenty years ago)

I thought ARCTU was just on hiatus.

Speaking of which, remember when he was on AD? He had to fire a clown. That was great.
Greg the Bunny was sorta l-a-m-e. Even by Eugene Levy standards.

― Huk-L, Friday, 11 February 2005 16:25 (twenty years ago)

Serious question about this show: if one is a David Cross unfan (as I generally am), is it still worth it?

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 11 February 2005 16:28 (twenty years ago)

Absolutely.

― Fish fingers all in a line (kenan), Friday, 11 February 2005 16:29 (twenty years ago)

You'll be surprised at how funny his character is.

― Fish fingers all in a line (kenan), Friday, 11 February 2005 16:29 (twenty years ago)

David Cross doesn't write for Arrested Development, so he gets to be funny.

― Huk-L, Friday, 11 February 2005 16:30 (twenty years ago)

Yeah, and he's playing totally out of type. Plus there are like 10 main characters, so even if you don't like him, he's usually only in a total of a minute and a half of each episode.

― n/a (Nick A.), Friday, 11 February 2005 16:34 (twenty years ago)

David Cross doesn't write for Arrested Development, so he gets to be funny.

Hahah -- okay, noted.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 11 February 2005 16:38 (twenty years ago)

if one is a David Cross unfan (as I generally am), is it still worth it?

I know a couple of people who really really hate David Cross that like the show.

― Leon the Fatboy (Ex Leon), Friday, 11 February 2005 16:38 (twenty years ago)

George Michael is probably my favourite. He's like, the most real teenager ever on TV.

― Huk-L, Friday, 11 February 2005 16:39 (twenty years ago)

I really liked Greg the Bunny. The DVD has some great extras of Greg humping a cat in the shower.

― Catty (Catty), Friday, 11 February 2005 16:39 (twenty years ago)

Plus there are like 10 main characters

Okay, other question about the other thing semi-putting me off about the show as I heard about it -- does this suffer from Wes Anderson ensemble cast quirkiness-mistaken-for-genius syndrome or not? (He's turning into this decade's Tarantino in terms of people picking up on his worst qualities and expanding on them -- these people include Anderson himself.)

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 11 February 2005 16:41 (twenty years ago)

The AV Club interview with Mitchell Hurwitz actually addresses the Anderson comparison, sort of.

― Huk-L, Friday, 11 February 2005 16:42 (twenty years ago)

David Cross is the Never Nude, right?
my old man just bought the DVDs 'cause we were never home to watch it and we just sort?5{ season one in a day. At first I wasn't sure if I liked it because most of the characters were so vile but then as the season went on I was swayed. I think it took Buster and his juice. And the way Gob says "Michaelllllllllllllll..........."

― Catty (Catty), Friday, 11 February 2005 16:43 (twenty years ago)

David Cross' character in the show is sooo EMBARASSING. My roommate LOVES Tobias because he HATES David Cross and loves seeing him get FUCKED WITH IN A MAJOR WAY (such as his "acting lessons" from Carl Weathers).

George Michael is probably my favourite. He's like, the most real teenager ever on TV.

Oh, totally! And his whole relationship with Boring Ann/Michael's disapproval is one of my favorite, more realistic running stories on the show.

― known vaginatarian (nickalicious), Friday, 11 February 2005 16:43 (twenty years ago)

Oh yeah? I'll check the link, thanks. (xpost)

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 11 February 2005 16:43 (twenty years ago)

The multi-character thing actually I think works WAY better than it has in any Wes Anderson movie, as it plays most of its power more off the confusion of so many different perspectives on plot points rather than interpersonal emotional bullshittery.

― known vaginatarian (nickalicious), Friday, 11 February 2005 16:45 (twenty years ago)

erm, that was supposed to be "sort of plowed through season one" ... sorry. butterfingers...

― Catty (Catty), Friday, 11 February 2005 16:45 (twenty years ago)

I know a couple of people who really really hate David Cross that like the show.

I only find him funny on the show and in interviews. He's so funny as Tobias.

My favorite characters are GOB (esp. when on a segway) and George Michael. That kid is GOOD, y'all. Henry Winkler and Liza Minelli are also fantastic on the show.

It still bugs me that they reduced the episode order. I imagine that if they had done this last season we quite possibly may have missed the houses in Iraq punchline. To think there are jokes out there that may not make it on screen really irks me. Stupid FOX.

― rocknrolldetox (rocknrolldetox), Friday, 11 February 2005 16:46 (twenty years ago)

Ah, far more to my liking indeed. (The latter is something which I have enough involvement with in real life and I don't need it soundtracked to fucking Sigur Ros, thanks.)

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 11 February 2005 16:49 (twenty years ago)

but think of the added value of the DVDs! (which I love, because I catch a lot more jokes that I was laughing too loudly to hear during the broadcast)
From the AV interview, it sounds like there are tonnes and tonnes of jokes that don't make it onto the 21 aired minutes.

― Huk-L, Friday, 11 February 2005 16:51 (twenty years ago)

Greg the Bunny has Sarah Silverman in it = happy Adam.

David Cross is doing a lot to redeem himself as Tobias. The leather daddy thing from last season was fucking priceless--"I want something that says 'Daddy loves leather!'"

― adam (adam), Friday, 11 February 2005 16:52 (twenty years ago)

I think the pinnacle of the BALLS montage was Tobias going into the attic to retrieve his cut-offs and George (in his son's dead wife's maternity clothes) all like "there were cut-offs up here?".

― known vaginatarian (nickalicious), Friday, 11 February 2005 16:55 (twenty years ago)

http://the-op.com/images/episode/204/gob_buster_dance3_sm.jpg

THE FINAL COUNTDOWN!

― Leon the Fatboy (Ex Leon), Friday, 11 February 2005 16:56 (twenty years ago)

More David Cross sadism: he has spent most of the current season so far covered entirely in blue paint, a la the Blue Man Group.

I must have missed this BALLS episode, as I have no clue what you're all on about.

― n/a (Nick A.), Friday, 11 February 2005 16:57 (twenty years ago)

And the boil-in-bag frozen food!

― Huk-L, Friday, 11 February 2005 16:57 (twenty years ago)

THE FINAL COUNTDOWN!

Er? Dare I ask?

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 11 February 2005 16:58 (twenty years ago)

"I just blue myself."

― Leon the Fatboy (Ex Leon), Friday, 11 February 2005 16:58 (twenty years ago)

I am tired of Tobias. He needs to go away. I'm also tired of Lindsey. More GOB, please, before he got all self-conscious. Oh, and what the fuck happened to Gene Parmesan? The episode with him was pure genius.

― jill schoelen is the queen of my dreams! (Homosexual II), Friday, 11 February 2005 16:58 (twenty years ago)

http://the-op.com/images/110-gob-strut-sm.jpg

More Hot Cops.

― Leon the Fatboy (Ex Leon), Friday, 11 February 2005 17:00 (twenty years ago)

(Um, all I'm seeing is a "Look! A Seagull!" bit.)

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 11 February 2005 17:01 (twenty years ago)

They need to do a crossover where George Michael and Maybe go to the O.C.

― Huk-L, Friday, 11 February 2005 17:03 (twenty years ago)

so here is an update that was posted on defmaer.com:

Subject: RE: Arrested Development From: “Gail Berman” Date: Thu, February 10, 2005 2:30 pm To: [redacted]

Dear Arrested Development Fans:

Thank you for your e-mail and your passionate support of Arrested Development. While the show has finished production for its second season, contrary to the rumors you may have heard or read on the internet, it is NOT cancelled.

We at FOX love Arrested Development and we look forward to having the Bluth family back on FOX in the future - hopefully for many years. You can help make the show a bigger success by getting as many people as possible to start watching the show this Sunday and every Sunday at 8:30 p.m. ET/PT.

Sincerely,

Fox Broadcasting Company

― firstworldman (firstworldman), Friday, 11 February 2005 17:06 (twenty years ago)

Greg, that was posted about twenty-five posts back. ;-)

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 11 February 2005 17:07 (twenty years ago)

but think of the added value of the DVDs!

That's the thing...if they didn't get on camera the jokes are lost. They won't be on the DVD. There can't be any outtakes if they don't shoot the rest of the episodes. Though, they do probably have plenty already. Hopefully there will be a third season and they'll pick up where they left off and plot lines won't be lost.

― rocknrolldetox (rocknrolldetox), Friday, 11 February 2005 17:12 (twenty years ago)

ah, yeah... i'm doing a lot of that lately, ned. must be all the ether.

― firstworldman (firstworldman), Friday, 11 February 2005 17:13 (twenty years ago)

i did a search for 'berman' in the thread, but it only brought up the two contact info bits, so i figured...

― firstworldman (firstworldman), Friday, 11 February 2005 17:14 (twenty years ago)

I got that form letter last night, too.

― Fish fingers all in a line (kenan), Friday, 11 February 2005 17:16 (twenty years ago)

http://www.freeannyong.com/

― Huk-L, Friday, 11 February 2005 17:59 (twenty years ago)

ned, i highly suggest you buy the DVD and play catch up!

― cutty (mcutt), Friday, 11 February 2005 18:24 (twenty years ago)

Or you can come over to my place any Saturday night and watch my DVD with me and my brother.

― Huk-L, Friday, 11 February 2005 18:26 (twenty years ago)

I'm not in Canada, for a start. ;-)

Cutty -- had I more of a budget to do that I could well, but until a long overdue pay hike comes through I'm limiting my indulgences carefully. For now. ;-)

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 11 February 2005 18:34 (twenty years ago)

Ned, if you're looking for laughs ever, rent the first part of the first season at the local decent video store. If you like that, there's two more DVDs to rent.

― spockist, Friday, 11 February 2005 18:53 (twenty years ago)

you can also download the episodes off the net.

― S!monB!rch (Carey), Friday, 11 February 2005 18:56 (twenty years ago)

GOB, George Michael, and Buster are my favorites. I totally agree that George Michael is one of the most realistic teenage boy characters that I've ever seen in any kind of fiction. I love George Michael most when he's paranoid.

― Matthew C Perpetua (inca), Friday, 11 February 2005 19:26 (twenty years ago)

I don't really get the appeal of Buster.

― n/a (Nick A.), Friday, 11 February 2005 20:34 (twenty years ago)

Buster is an odd character, it seems like his appeal is entirely rooted in how pathetic a human being he is, it's like impossible to even hope his life gets better, because that would ruin him.

― known vaginatarian (nickalicious), Friday, 11 February 2005 20:38 (twenty years ago)

It seems like almost all of his participation involves setting up jokes for Lucille punchlines.

― known vaginatarian (nickalicious), Friday, 11 February 2005 20:38 (twenty years ago)

I like his giddy laugh though.

― n/a (Nick A.), Friday, 11 February 2005 20:41 (twenty years ago)

Ned, if you are in LA...I know a bunch of people that bought copies of season 1 specifically for the purpose of donating them to their local library. Call around.

― rocknrolldetox (rocknrolldetox), Friday, 11 February 2005 20:59 (twenty years ago)

double xposts
1. ned, i'd rent the dvd b/c the show seems so much more satisfying a) starting from the beginning & b) watching more than one episode at a time. i still like watching it on sundays, but i'd much rather just watch it on dvd all at once (or nearly all at once).
2. also, i like buster. i don't think everything is rooted in him being a pathetic character. i think he's probably one of the easiest to be sympathetic with (george michael being another top contender). i just lost my train of thought....

― kelsey (kelstarry), Friday, 11 February 2005 21:02 (twenty years ago)

buster's slight appeal is that he likes to massage everybody. plus, he goes on archelogical digs.

― cutty (mcutt), Friday, 11 February 2005 21:45 (twenty years ago)

Oh, I also like how Buster says "Heeey, brother."

― n/a (Nick A.), Friday, 11 February 2005 21:47 (twenty years ago)

I love George Michael. Especially when he says he is going to "smoke the marijuana like a cigarette."

― gunther heartymeal, Friday, 11 February 2005 21:49 (twenty years ago)

Wow, I don't think of Buster as being a "pathetic guy." He's a lovely manchild with a heart of gold!

― Matthew C Perpetua (inca), Friday, 11 February 2005 21:50 (twenty years ago)

The whole thing about Buster is that he's this sweet guy who has a lot of genuine curiosity about the world, but he's been coddled his entire life in this extreme way that has made it so that he walks through life entirely out of touch with reality. See "Amigos," when he decides to join the Mexican maid's family. "Ha ha, we're like slave buddies!" He's oblivious, but totally benign. He's full of love for everyone in his family, even the more reprehensible characters like GOB and Lucille.

― Matthew C Perpetua (inca), Friday, 11 February 2005 21:53 (twenty years ago)

yes! that's it! & more than most characters, i think he just simply assumes the best of people even when he's been wronged by them.

― kelsey (kelstarry), Friday, 11 February 2005 22:16 (twenty years ago)

Exactly, Buster very seldom sees anything but the good in people. Even though he sometimes get angry at GOB and his father because they pick on him, he still loves them both more than anyone else in the family.

― Matthew C Perpetua (inca), Friday, 11 February 2005 22:33 (twenty years ago)

I absolutely love the glee on Buster's face whenever anyone swears at him.

I do the Heeeeey, Brother massage to everyone now.
Heeeeyyy, roommate. Heeeyyy, mailman. Heeeeeeeeyy, puppy.

― S!monB!rch (Carey), Friday, 11 February 2005 22:49 (twenty years ago)

I love the episode where Buster is told not to be seen or heard from, and it turns out that he's *very* good at this.

― Fish fingers all in a line (kenan), Friday, 11 February 2005 22:53 (twenty years ago)

I watched that one this morning before I left for work!

― n/a (Nick A.), Friday, 11 February 2005 22:53 (twenty years ago)

Buster is also the second most well-acted regular character, after George Michael.

― andrew s (andrew s), Friday, 11 February 2005 23:37 (twenty years ago)

I love George Michael's bring your daughter to work day jokes.

― S!monB!rch (Carey), Friday, 11 February 2005 23:46 (twenty years ago)

I think that Michael Cera is going to have a pretty amazing career as he gets older. He's got a real gift, and I think that he can probably do a lot more than George Michael.

― Matthew C Perpetua (inca), Saturday, 12 February 2005 00:58 (twenty years ago)

I'd fuck him.

― n/a (Nick A.), Saturday, 12 February 2005 16:40 (twenty years ago)

Lock thread!

― Huk-L, Saturday, 12 February 2005 21:00 (twenty years ago)

michael cera is a comedic genius. his timing, his smile, his laugh... so OTM.

― cutty (mcutt), Saturday, 12 February 2005 21:44 (twenty years ago)

Gob is kick my ass funny.

― qbert (Danny), Sunday, 13 February 2005 03:49 (twenty years ago)

Based almost entirely on that A/V Club interview, Mitchell Hurwitz is basically the sun around which Planet Huck revolves. He's got me thinking about comedy and writing in new ways, and I'm throwing out all my buddie/cop-&-a-dog movie screenplays.

― Huk-L, Sunday, 13 February 2005 05:28 (twenty years ago)

I know what you mean, Huk.

One of the things that I noticed about halfway through the first season was that almost every other comedy program seemed slow and boring compared to Arrested Development. The show is so densely packed with jokes that you're laughing at something every few seconds, and there's so much that you might not even notice til you've seen the episode multiple times. Other shows seem so plodding and inefficien - my epiphany came while watching an episode of Will & Grace (which can be pretty funny, it's definitely better than average for an American sitcom) and I was impatiently thinking "get to the joke already!" I don't think this is necessary a sign of me being ADD addled so much the AD people being brilliant and doing their best to be as entertaining and funny as humanly possible in the span of 22 minutes. All I know is that if I'm going to make comedy films (and I'd really like to), I would like to try to be even half as dense with jokes as AD.

― Matthew C Perpetua (inca), Sunday, 13 February 2005 07:06 (twenty years ago)

I think that's also a difference between a sitcom that feels it has to get sentimental from time to time and one that is dry and cynical.

― Fish fingers all in a line (kenan), Sunday, 13 February 2005 07:34 (twenty years ago)

Yeah, but AD does get sentimental sometimes, but then they twist or spike the sentiment with another joke.

― Matthew C Perpetua (inca), Sunday, 13 February 2005 14:08 (twenty years ago)

My friend, who is a writer on "AD," confirms that there's tons of stuff - some of it filmed - that gets cut out to fit broadcast time constraints. Apparently extended episodes were at one point intended for the DVD, but I guess that never happened. He also hasn't said anything about it being cancelled, just cut back.

But from talking with "Futurama" guys in the past, I know that that show was essentially "cancelled" pretty early and just parcelled out the episodes they had very, very slowly. Especially seasons 3 and 4, which barely aired here in Chicago thanks to football conflicts.

Me to David X. Cohen: When did you know that "Futurama" would be cancelled?
David X. Cohen: Oh, around the time we finished the first episode.

― Josh in Chicago (Josh in Chicago), Sunday, 13 February 2005 15:22 (twenty years ago)

I've read a lot about how they have tons of extra footage from every episode - they film the entire script plus some ad libs and then trim it down to make it more coherant and fit the 21/22 minute time limit. There's a lot of outtakes on the dvd. I'm sure that they will eventually release all of that stuff in an expensive collector's edition that I will no doubt purchase. I imagine that a lot of the stuff was cut from the dvd just because they rushed those dvds out in time for it to be in stores a month or so before the second season started.

― Matthew C Perpetua (inca), Sunday, 13 February 2005 22:27 (twenty years ago)

I'm psyched to see this!

― cozen (Cozen), Sunday, 13 February 2005 22:36 (twenty years ago)

The possibility of Martin Short and Liza Minelli in a scene together...this is TV history in the making, people.

― Huk-L, Sunday, 13 February 2005 23:54 (twenty years ago)

"I thought it was a pool toy!"

― Leon the Fatboy (Ex Leon), Monday, 14 February 2005 15:54 (twenty years ago)

I lost my shit for about 5 minutes when Lindsay started doing her own version of the coqua-coqua dance.

― Huk-L, Monday, 14 February 2005 15:59 (twenty years ago)

That was probably the single funniest thing they've ever done with Lindsay.

― Matthew C Perpetua (inca), Monday, 14 February 2005 16:20 (twenty years ago)

"those aren't even birds!"

― Matthew C Perpetua (inca), Monday, 14 February 2005 16:20 (twenty years ago)

I lost my shit for about 5 minutes when Lindsay started doing her own version of the coqua-coqua dance.

yeah, that was the best part about the episode. michael looks at her, and he's like.. what are you doing, dancing like a chicken?

then GOB SEES HER and goes nuts!

COQUA COQUA COQUA

― cutty (mcutt), Monday, 14 February 2005 16:21 (twenty years ago)

someone make an animated GIF of GOB dancing coqua coqua!

― cutty (mcutt), Monday, 14 February 2005 16:22 (twenty years ago)

Low-rated series, Arrested Development, Jack & Bobby, struggle for a future
By Lynn Elber
LOS ANGELES (AP) — Arrested Development star Jason Bateman and the sitcom’s creator, Mitchell Hurwitz, were assessing the cuddle quotient in a show that viewers may soon lose the chance to embrace.
“There are a surprising number of hugs in the show. We just make jokes about how they (the characters) never hug,” said Hurwitz. “So even when Michael’s mother hugs him, he says, ‘What are you doing? Why are you squeezing me with your body?”’
Bateman, who stars as Michael in the acerbic Fox comedy about the dysfunctional Bluth family, offers a solution: “You’ve got the Pax network if you want a good hug.”
But he and the rest of the Arrested Development clan might be in need of comfort: Fox is halting production after 18 episodes, shy of the usual 22, bringing the season — and maybe the series — to a premature end April 17.
American Dad takes its 8:30 p.m. EST Sunday slot starting May 1. The animated comedy about a CIA agent and his family scored in a post-Super Bowl preview and Fox awarded it the premium real estate after The Simpsons.
With the football extravaganza as launching pad, American Dad drew 15 million viewers. For its sophomore season to date, Arrested Development is averaging six million weekly viewers, down from last season’s average audience of 6.2 million.
The lack of interest persists despite rave reviews and awards: a Golden Globe for Bateman in January and a best-comedy series Emmy last year.
It’s not the only program suffering a gap between quality and ratings. Jack & Bobby (9 p.m. EST Wednesdays), the WB’s drama about the formative years of a future U.S. president, can’t stoke viewer interest despite a critically acclaimed first season.
Although a relatively new network like WB doesn’t demand American Idol-size ratings, the 2.7 million average weekly audience for Jack & Bobby is scant compared to the nearly six million watching WB’s most-watched series, 7th Heaven.
Worthy shows have come and gone many times before, but the irony is acute for the latest endangered pair. Arrested Development, which is ferociously clever and daringly breaks the laugh-track, multicamera sitcom mould, arrived as the genre cried out for rejuvenation.
With the passing of Friends, Sex and the City and (at the end of this season) Everybody Loves Raymond, observers have lamented the mostly uninspired retreads that are left.
Arrested Development wasn’t entirely startling — Seinfeld reveled in the crassness of its characters; Curb Your Enthusiasm saw its cynicism and raised it.
But the Fox show was asking a sitcom family to be received as something other than inherently warm and loving, and derived its dry humour from the characters’ odd, morally suspect behaviour.
That audiences would take awhile to adapt was understandable, Bateman said.
“If anybody says this show is not accessible, which I think is not really accurate or fair or deserved, perhaps that’s what they’re talking about,” the actor said. “It’s around the side door for laughter. You have to watch two episodes to understand what our joke is. Then, if you’re in that gear, it delivers nonstop.”
Adds Hurwitz: “I think people understand dealing with adult parents and adult siblings, and that’s at the core of every show.”
Relationships also are central to Jack & Bobby, which stars Christine Lahti as the loving but eccentric single mother of a boy destined to be a leader (Logan Lerman) and his older brother, Jack (Matt Long).
Along with family and romantic skirmishes, the series created by Greg Berlanti explores how Bobby’s childhood shapes the character and moral sense he ultimately brings to the presidency.
It’s a sophisticated twist on popular youth-oriented dramas such as Everwood and Smallville, and arrived in a season of renewed viewer interest in scripted shows (Lost, Desperate Housewives) after the reality flood.
Jack & Bobby also appears to have the potential to attract the somewhat older audience that WB executives have said they want to cultivate as the network focuses on 20-somethings as well as teenagers.
Berlanti knows how to make appealing dramas, with Everwood and Dawson’s Creek among his credits. He searches for an answer when asked why his latest effort isn’t getting traction.
Maybe there’s audience fatigue from too many family dramas, he suggests. Maybe it’s the political element that’s putting people off.
“I’d very much be looking forward to a second season when we didn’t have an election,” Berlanti said. “I think it was a case of people being oversaturated with that.”
He expects Jack & Bobby to go the full season with 22 episodes and have a fighting chance to build its audience. With the truncated run for Arrested Development, it seems unlikely that Fox (which gets points for bringing it back after the first low-rated season) will find a reason to renew it when the 2006-05 schedule is announced in May.
Veteran actress Jessica Walter, who stars as the cold-fish Bluth mother, Lucille, is dismayed by the show’s peril.
“I think it’s awful that art or creative entertainment is made for some formula of Nielsen ratings, and I don’t buy into that,” she said. “I’d rather be on something good watched by one million people than something awful watched by 20 million.”
Berlanti strikes a more philosophical note.
He and his writers are working “to tell the best stories we know how to tell and hope that some point down the line people look back on the series, whether it goes for five years or just one year, and want to buy the box (DVD) set.”

― Huk-L, Thursday, 17 February 2005 19:09 (twenty years ago)

one month passes...

This had to be pointed out to me but last week they had Fonzie jump the shark. It was maybe the first time the whole "jumping the shark" idea has been interesting or funny.

― adam (adam), Friday, 18 March 2005 21:25 (twenty years ago)

I almost revived this earlier.

n/a on point throughout.

― cozen (Cozen), Friday, 18 March 2005 21:27 (twenty years ago)

Argh how did I not get that joke until just now! The back-to-back episodes a couple of weeks ago with Julia Louis-Dreyfus' character returning were the funniest ones so far this season.

― n/a (Nick A.), Friday, 18 March 2005 22:21 (twenty years ago)

They have been great. I want a t-shirt or something to celebrate Motherboy XXX.

― Leon the Fatboy (Ex Leon), Friday, 18 March 2005 22:24 (twenty years ago)

Those two back to back episodes were pretty bad in comparison to the rest of the series. I figured the whole show was going downhill and the whole Buster's hand being eaten was one of the more half-assed ideas the writers have come up with.

Given all that, however, last Sunday's episode got things right back on track. in jokes galore + physical comedy + more GOB = great television

― lemin (lemin), Saturday, 19 March 2005 19:52 (twenty years ago)

the best line was when they were talking about the seal missing a fin, swimming around in circles, freaking his family out.

― cutty (mcutt), Saturday, 19 March 2005 19:59 (twenty years ago)

It took me a couple of episodes to realize that the "On the next Arrested Development" scenes weren't actually in the next episode. Pretty darn clever.

― Michael F Gill (Michael F Gill), Monday, 21 March 2005 03:01 (twenty years ago)

Thanks to you characters and this thread, I found a copy of the 1st season DVD set yesterday cheap. If it does not live up to its promise I will slay you. (Well not really, but I figure I could sell it back.)

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 21 March 2005 03:04 (twenty years ago)

You wont want to.

― scout (scout), Monday, 21 March 2005 08:03 (twenty years ago)

buster losing his hand was actually fairly well planned out. watch season 2 again, the clues are all over.

― f-a-b-o-l-o-u-s (adamwest), Monday, 21 March 2005 08:07 (twenty years ago)

you got yourself a stew

― nickalicious (nickalicious), Monday, 21 March 2005 14:15 (twenty years ago)

I thought the Simpsons writers joke a few weeks ago was kinda lame.

― Huk-L, Monday, 21 March 2005 14:29 (twenty years ago)

Last night's was great though. All of the Star Wars geekery was excellent.

― Leon the Fatboy (Ex Leon), Monday, 21 March 2005 14:32 (twenty years ago)

Yeah.
I like that they brought Steve Holt back.

― Huk-L, Monday, 21 March 2005 14:42 (twenty years ago)

And when he found out who his father was, they showed his father in a cape a la Darth Vader!

― Leon the Fatboy (Ex Leon), Monday, 21 March 2005 14:44 (twenty years ago)

OMG, and Buster lost his hand just after finding out who HIS father was.

― Huk-L, Monday, 21 March 2005 14:48 (twenty years ago)

This ended in the UK last night. I'm sad, because not only do I have to wait months for season 2, but I only got to watch about 4 episodes total. Really loved the s1 finale, tho', esp. GOB, Michael & Maeby & George Michael ("Pack your bags.") & Annyung, Annyung vs Buster ("Date not over yet, fatty.") and the Buster/Oscar massages were well upping the creep factor. Bit light on Lucille, tho'.

― BARMS, Monday, 21 March 2005 14:53 (twenty years ago)

I was dying at the "VIRGIN" acrostic poster and GOB's anti-Steve-Holt video.

― adam (adam), Monday, 21 March 2005 14:53 (twenty years ago)

With CLUB SAUCE"

― Chris 'The Nuts' V (Chris V), Monday, 21 March 2005 14:53 (twenty years ago)

OMG, and Buster lost his hand just after finding out who HIS father was.

Holy shit! I hadn't noticed that either! Wow!

― nickalicious (nickalicious), Monday, 21 March 2005 15:13 (twenty years ago)

"Steve Holt is a bastard. And he doesn't even know who his father is."

― Leon the Fatboy (Ex Leon), Monday, 21 March 2005 15:22 (twenty years ago)

this is really funny.

― cozen (Cozen), Monday, 21 March 2005 15:44 (twenty years ago)

the red eyes on the campaign video were a nice touch.

"It doesn't matter when the lights are out." Hee.

― sugarpants: the luscious ingenue (sugarpants), Monday, 21 March 2005 15:51 (twenty years ago)

Gob Bluth is my HERO.

― nickalicious (nickalicious), Monday, 28 March 2005 15:57 (twenty years ago)

He is my...well nevermind.

― Leon Bluth (Ex Leon), Monday, 28 March 2005 15:58 (twenty years ago)

What was the name of the trick he was trying to do? The SWORD of DESTINY?

― nickalicious (nickalicious), Monday, 28 March 2005 16:01 (twenty years ago)

Paging Dr. Homer Simpson!

― Huk-L, Monday, 28 March 2005 16:39 (twenty years ago)

"George Michael had his first Hop-on."

― dave225 (Dave225), Monday, 28 March 2005 17:13 (twenty years ago)

Gob is my favorite TV character since George Costanza.

― earlnash, Monday, 28 March 2005 18:41 (twenty years ago)

*intrigued*

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 28 March 2005 19:02 (twenty years ago)

You still haven't watched yr DVD yet, Ned?

― Huk-L, Monday, 28 March 2005 19:17 (twenty years ago)

Haven't had the chance! Work's been busy, need to do a lot of record reviews, was in NYC last weekend, etc. etc. I'll get to them as I do. (When you consider there are DVDs I've bought some years ago I haven't watched yet, that should give you an idea of things...)

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 28 March 2005 19:22 (twenty years ago)

last night's episode was fucking hilarious. so much GOB!

ben stiller didn't ruin it either.

― cutty (mcutt), Monday, 28 March 2005 19:43 (twenty years ago)

I love the recurring doctor with the terrible phrasing.

― Huk-L, Monday, 28 March 2005 19:48 (twenty years ago)

"i think i want the old doctor back"

― cutty (mcutt), Monday, 28 March 2005 20:04 (twenty years ago)

Other actors that need to show up for an episode of Arrested Development:

Burt Reynolds!!! I don't know what type of character he would play, but considering how good Liza Minelli has been on this show, I know they would give Burt a roll that would be a scream.

Mr. T (as Mr. T) Nuff said.

Andy Griffith!!! I'd cast him as a Matlock type character that acts all sweet and smiles to everyone then under his breath is a real mean bastard. I'd love to see some courtroom scene with Griffith going after a Bluth with Barry Zuckerman (Henry Winkler).

― earlnash, Monday, 28 March 2005 20:16 (twenty years ago)

Mr. T (as Mr. T) Nuff said.

Why have Thunderlips on the show when they already have Apollo Creed???

― Leon Bluth (Ex Leon), Monday, 28 March 2005 20:19 (twenty years ago)

Sorry, I meant Clubber Lang. I always confuse those two, Rocky III was a mess.

― Leon Bluth (Ex Leon), Monday, 28 March 2005 20:20 (twenty years ago)

If the show comes back, Ricky Gervais is slated to appear!

― Remy (x Jeremy), Monday, 28 March 2005 20:40 (twenty years ago)

I love the recurring doctor with the terrible phrasing.

-- Huk-L (handsomishbo...), March 28th, 2005 2:48 PM. (later)

A few weeks ago, they revealed that his name is...Dr. Wordsmith!

― n/a (Nick A.), Tuesday, 29 March 2005 02:33 (twenty years ago)

hahaha omg

― j blount (papa la bas), Tuesday, 29 March 2005 02:34 (twenty years ago)

I doubt there will be another episode as good as the Motherboy one this season, but the rest of them are all kinda huddling not very far below - so i have hope ... they've finally created enough new recurring phrases/images/whathaveyou that the overall quality of the episodes is getting pretty darn close to that of the first season

― lemin (lemin), Tuesday, 29 March 2005 02:40 (twenty years ago)

You know, I think Motherboy XXX was my least favorite this season along with Switch Hitter. For me, the top ones from season 2 have been Amigos, Good Grief, Afternoon Delight, and Ready Aim Marry Me.

― Matthew C Perpetua (inca), Tuesday, 29 March 2005 03:26 (twenty years ago)

"Michael, if I make this comeback, I’ll buy you a hundred George Michaels that you can teach to drive!"

― Matthew C Perpetua (inca), Tuesday, 29 March 2005 03:28 (twenty years ago)

Motherboy was so excellent though! the family's off-hand reactions to Buster's hook were absolutely hilarious, not to mention the whole ridiculous BK tie-in. and the rest of the episode was filled with such great references. more funny jokes per minute than anything since Good Grief.

and cmon, Read Aim Marry Me was pretty awful. the style was pretty cool (the whole archived footage thing) but none of it was funny at all.

― lemin (lemin), Tuesday, 29 March 2005 04:47 (twenty years ago)

I stayed up til 3am last night watching this. so good, so, so funny.

― cozen (Cozen), Tuesday, 29 March 2005 15:07 (twenty years ago)

"take me to your secular world!"

― Sym Sym (sym), Monday, 4 April 2005 07:38 (twenty years ago)

This was one of the best episodes all season. Michael's become completely unhinged, hasn't he?
I love that. He started out as the moral centre of the family, and now he's the worst one. Also, Franklin rocks.

― Huk-L, Monday, 4 April 2005 14:20 (twenty years ago)

Was it just me, or was the music mixed in very loud last night compared to the dialogue? I has a tough time understanding some of it.

― Brian Miller (Brian Miller), Monday, 4 April 2005 14:29 (twenty years ago)

I think every single member of the Bluth family called Tobias out last night.

― nickalicious (nickalicious), Monday, 4 April 2005 14:29 (twenty years ago)

Yeah, Huk. I like that he has become as manipulative as the rest of the family. Bateman's delivery of some of his throwaway lines was great last night.

x-post

Surefire stupid gag-chuckle that got me:

"Franklin! Your breath really...unnnh." *passes out* Classic Gob.

― M. White (Miguelito), Monday, 4 April 2005 14:30 (twenty years ago)

Tobias was killing me last night. The Mini Cooper on the wrong side of the road roffle.

― adam (adam), Monday, 4 April 2005 14:30 (twenty years ago)

Buster, doing Franklin, was roffle-tastical.

― dave225 (Dave225), Monday, 4 April 2005 14:31 (twenty years ago)

xpost - The best part was at the end when Buster got a hold of Franklin.

And so true about the mini cooper bit.

― Sarah McLusky (coco), Monday, 4 April 2005 14:35 (twenty years ago)

Oh, and since Sask doesn't do DST, I will now be able to watch this twice every Sunday.

― Huk-L, Monday, 4 April 2005 15:02 (twenty years ago)

That was definitely one of my favorite episodes last night.

The best part was at the end, that exasperated look on George Michael's face after Ann says "George Michael, teach me the ways of the secular flesh!"

― Matthew C Perpetua (inca), Monday, 4 April 2005 15:15 (twenty years ago)

I love the George Michael sexual frustration music. I'd hate it as a stand-alone song, but it's a great signifier. We need to talk more about how well the music serves the comedy on this show.

― Huk-L, Monday, 4 April 2005 15:17 (twenty years ago)

The squinty-eyed close-ups in that tense scene in the limo killed me. GOB, George Sr., Security Guard ... Franklin ...
one of the best episodes of the season. great setup, great payoff

― lemin (lemin), Monday, 4 April 2005 15:28 (twenty years ago)

Such a great episode last night.

There was a commercial when the Simpsons were on where Bateman tries to show how similar the Simpsons are to the Bluths. I guess FOX is still having trouble reeling in viewers for AD.

― Michael F Gill (Michael F Gill), Monday, 4 April 2005 15:31 (twenty years ago)

OMG Tobias jumping off the second floor with an umbrella. It's kind of amazing that this show is getting low ratings.

― sunburned and snowblind (kenan), Monday, 4 April 2005 15:35 (twenty years ago)

Fox needs to keep this on the air, if for no other reason than to keep Bateman reduced to tiny little roles in Vince Vaughn/Ben Stiller movies.

― Huk-L, Monday, 4 April 2005 15:38 (twenty years ago)

I like Bateman. I think he's a fine, fine straight man. What's your beef with him?

― sunburned and snowblind (kenan), Monday, 4 April 2005 15:39 (twenty years ago)

"Dad, seriously, there's no partition in this thing!"

― nickalicious (nickalicious), Monday, 4 April 2005 15:40 (twenty years ago)

Oh, I think he's great on AD (and loved him on Silver Spoons). But I would hate to see him become one of the Vaughn/Stiller One-Note Players (though Will Ferrell has managed a surprising versatility and warmth, despite this).

xpost,

"I can't even turn on the radio!"

― Huk-L, Monday, 4 April 2005 15:43 (twenty years ago)

the show's continuity is a major barrier to its attracting any new viewers. too many of the jokes relate back to previous episodes -- i can totally understand how it'd be a little alienating for someone who wasn't there from the beginning.

― mark p (Mark P), Monday, 4 April 2005 16:03 (twenty years ago)

I like how the opening strains of the "Big Yellow Joint" song now serves as the "Oscar's smoking pot again" theme.

And yeah, there's lots of stuff like that going on, and it would be a bit difficult to jump in in the middle.

― sunburned and snowblind (kenan), Monday, 4 April 2005 16:06 (twenty years ago)

And it's so fact-paced, and has a lot of characters, who all have something on the go all the time (even when they're just laying behind the couch).

― Huk-L, Monday, 4 April 2005 16:06 (twenty years ago)

"The other night I woke up and Uncle Oscar was kissing it."

― nickalicious (nickalicious), Monday, 4 April 2005 16:34 (twenty years ago)

"You can help make the show a bigger success by getting as many people as
possible to start watching the show this Sunday and every Sunday at 8:30
p.m. ET/PT.

Sincerely,

Fox Broadcasting Company "

join fox's street team!

― andrew m. (andrewmorgan), Monday, 4 April 2005 17:52 (twenty years ago)

i love the song that they play near the end of each episode, when everyone is tired of their scheming and they come to sort of moral realization.

― Sym Sym (sym), Monday, 4 April 2005 18:01 (twenty years ago)

On the Season One DVD, there's a really short, but excellent "featurette" on the guy who does the music.

― Huk-L, Monday, 4 April 2005 18:05 (twenty years ago)

may I confess my love for the theme music/credits, as it means that a good time is assured in around 20 seconds. Short, snappy credits are always better than long drawn out shit like the ATHF title sequence or most of all primetime dramas. the AD theme also in general is just plain catchy.

― lemin (lemin), Monday, 4 April 2005 18:52 (twenty years ago)

ATHF?
At The Hotel Fortinbras?
Are These Hacks Funny?
Ask Ted, Hot Fudge?
After Tommorow, Help Freddy?
Allowing That Has Fringe (Benefits)?
All Ten Horny Foys? (HBO reimagining of Bob Hope films STARTS NOW!)
As The Hoot-Owl Flies?
Amy Talks Hot Felafel?
Anybody Take His Fever?
Anonymous TV Hit Feature?
Andy's Tits Have Four (Nipples)?

― Huk-L, Monday, 4 April 2005 19:02 (twenty years ago)

The best use of music ever on the show has been the Charlie Brown xmas music, George Michael walking past the red doghouse and everyone walking around with their head down. My roomie, who still has charlie brown bedsheets, almost imploded.

― LowenBrÖ (Carey), Monday, 4 April 2005 19:09 (twenty years ago)

oh come on
typing it out is such a chore, but if i must ...
Aqua Teen Hunger Force

(xpost obviously)

― lemin (lemin), Monday, 4 April 2005 19:15 (twenty years ago)

do you guys remember the silver spoons spinoff starring bateman called "it's your move" fucking kick ass sitcom!

― charleston charge (chaki), Monday, 4 April 2005 19:24 (twenty years ago)

My favorite show of all time (possibly)!

― Leon Bluth (Ex Leon), Monday, 4 April 2005 19:25 (twenty years ago)

Oh, sorry. I've never seen that show.

― Huk-L, Monday, 4 April 2005 19:39 (twenty years ago)

Either of them.

― Huk-L, Monday, 4 April 2005 19:40 (twenty years ago)

You've missed out in life.

― Leon Bluth (Ex Leon), Monday, 4 April 2005 20:07 (twenty years ago)

Thinking back over the last few episodes, I'm realizing how hilarious it is that Maeby keeps convincing people of her age with these great imperative statements, i.e. when the guard thinks she looks older and she says "babysit me!" or the several times she keeps deflecting comments with "marry me!"

― mike h. (mike h.), Wednesday, 6 April 2005 14:57 (twenty years ago)

I've watched the episode three times now and I have to say that every time there's that close-up on Franklin's face when they're at the Balboa Towers gate I just lose it. I'm laughing just thinking about it now.

"I don’t want no part of your tight-ass country-club, ya freak bitch"

― rocknrolldetox (rocknrolldetox), Wednesday, 6 April 2005 15:11 (twenty years ago)

...the family's off-hand reactions to Buster's hook ...
-- lemin (jlynch@...)

Pun intended?

― nickn (nickn), Wednesday, 6 April 2005 18:12 (twenty years ago)

I liked how everyone talked to and treated Franklin as if he was a real person.

― Leon WK (Ex Leon), Wednesday, 6 April 2005 18:17 (twenty years ago)

re-watching the episode, now my favorite comments are Michael's "You gotta lock that down" at a couple points

― Brian Miller (Brian Miller), Wednesday, 6 April 2005 18:25 (twenty years ago)

I like how George Sr keeps running off with dif people's wigs (and Franklin's this week!) as if they all pass as a perfect disguise.

― rrrobyn (rrrobyn), Wednesday, 6 April 2005 18:44 (twenty years ago)

What a goddamned glorious show.

― Huk-L, Wednesday, 6 April 2005 19:00 (twenty years ago)

I've been slowly getting through the first season DVD and everytime that kid says "an-yung" i giggle without control.

― Hari A$hur$t (Toaster), Wednesday, 6 April 2005 20:50 (twenty years ago)

he's like a pokemon

― Hari A$hur$t (Toaster), Wednesday, 6 April 2005 20:53 (twenty years ago)

I like how George Sr keeps running off with dif people's wigs (and Franklin's this week!) as if they all pass as a perfect disguise.

One of my favorite quotes from the show is from the end of S1 or was it the first of S2? Anyway, after discovering that George Sr. had taken Annyong's Uncle Sam wig to escape, Ron Howard says "It was George Sr. who took wig" Speaking exactly as Annyong had spoken earlier "Someone took wig!"

Hilarious.

― rocknrolldetox (rocknrolldetox), Wednesday, 6 April 2005 22:03 (twenty years ago)

i like when the publicist called george michael 'opie' and ron howard got pissed at her in the voiceover

― j blount (papa la bas), Wednesday, 6 April 2005 22:47 (twenty years ago)

annyong!

― cozen (Cozen), Thursday, 7 April 2005 08:52 (twenty years ago)

"it's your move"! that was great! they showed one series of that here in the mid 80s sometime. no idea it spunnnned off another show. he was always contriving to separate his mum and her would be boyfriend. it had a sort of Yes Minister dynamic in it, in that it was about setups and counter setups. i'd love to see it re-run.

http://www.tvtome.com/ItsYourMove/

― Jaunty Alan (Alan), Thursday, 7 April 2005 10:47 (twenty years ago)

I am trying to win a bootleg dvd of the complete series on ebay right now, it's kind of sad.

― Leon WK (Ex Leon), Thursday, 7 April 2005 12:54 (twenty years ago)

It's not sad.

― rrrobyn (rrrobyn), Thursday, 7 April 2005 13:23 (twenty years ago)

Oh, it's sad all right, but in a completely endearing, George Michael-y way.

― Huk-L, Thursday, 7 April 2005 14:08 (twenty years ago)

This is clearly the beginning of the end.

http://getarrested.com/

― happy fun ball (kenan), Friday, 8 April 2005 15:04 (twenty years ago)

yah jason bateman sure was a little schister on that show!

― charleston charge (chaki), Friday, 8 April 2005 15:09 (twenty years ago)

that's the show that had the dregs of humanity!

― fortunate hazel (f. hazel), Friday, 8 April 2005 15:46 (twenty years ago)

"Don't call my escorts whores!"

― Matthew C Perpetua (inca), Friday, 8 April 2005 16:04 (twenty years ago)

i think the episode with the charlie brown music has been the best so far this season.. was that the same one w/ gene parmesan?

― jill schoelen is the queen of my dreams! (Homosexual II), Friday, 8 April 2005 16:19 (twenty years ago)

"Mom's still got it!"

― Pleasant Plains /// (Pleasant Plains ///), Friday, 8 April 2005 16:36 (twenty years ago)

You gotta lock that down.

― Huk-L, Friday, 8 April 2005 16:47 (twenty years ago)

The episode with Gene Parmesan was episode 3 "Amigos." The one with the Charlie Brown music was episode 4, "Good Grief!" I agree that those are two of the series' best episodes.

― Matthew C Perpetua (inca), Friday, 8 April 2005 17:42 (twenty years ago)

well, at least it went out on a high note

― Sym Sym (sym), Monday, 18 April 2005 05:35 (twenty years ago)

― j blount (papa la bas), Monday, 18 April 2005 05:51 (twenty years ago)

Will there be another season? Or at least a slim chance of one?

Gob singing (a Bryan Adams song?) to Michael was genius - I think I almost saw them break character, too funny.

― rrrobyn (rrrobyn), Monday, 18 April 2005 12:22 (twenty years ago)

I think the odds of a third season are pretty good (maybe a 70% that it will return either on Fox or elsewhere), but if it never comes back, I am totally happy with how it ended.

― Matthew C Perpetua (inca), Monday, 18 April 2005 12:27 (twenty years ago)

"I just wanted to share my Pop Secret."!!!!!

― nickalicious (nickalicious), Monday, 18 April 2005 12:30 (twenty years ago)

I lost it when Franklin came out of the washing machine with a British accent.

― Chris L, Monday, 18 April 2005 12:47 (twenty years ago)

holy shit i didn't realize that was the season finale! nooo.

― mark p (Mark P), Monday, 18 April 2005 13:15 (twenty years ago)

"DAD'LL BE CRUSHED!"

BRILLIANT

― s1ocki (slutsky), Monday, 18 April 2005 13:18 (twenty years ago)

"Tell him that when he gets to the police station there's a hard cot waiting for him!"

"You'd do that to your brother?!"

― Leon Future Coffee (Ex Leon), Monday, 18 April 2005 13:20 (twenty years ago)

I love that "hard cot" line in part because I'm pretty sure that it brings the show full circle in terms of incest jokes.

― Matthew C Perpetua (inca), Monday, 18 April 2005 13:23 (twenty years ago)

the cut from "because i'm your brother" to tambor shaving his twin's head in the bathroom was pretty brilliant too.

― s1ocki (slutsky), Monday, 18 April 2005 13:25 (twenty years ago)

I loved all the Desperate Housewives digs during what might be their final episode!

― Huk-L, Monday, 18 April 2005 13:28 (twenty years ago)

That really was the creator of Desp Housewives, n'est pas?

― happy fun ball (kenan), Monday, 18 April 2005 13:29 (twenty years ago)

Yes it was!

― nickalicious (nickalicious), Monday, 18 April 2005 13:32 (twenty years ago)

There was this one scene where Lindsay was talking to Tobias and the faucet was running the whole time...down the pipes that led nowhere but the crawlspace. That was very subtle, and I felt like a dildo for laughing so hard for the duration of it.

― nickalicious (nickalicious), Monday, 18 April 2005 13:35 (twenty years ago)

"that's just the kind of joke franklin would've loved."

― mark p (Mark P), Monday, 18 April 2005 13:35 (twenty years ago)

I had a laughing fit -- a FIT, I tell you! -- upon hearing the lyrics, "I got kids all over town."

― happy fun ball (kenan), Monday, 18 April 2005 13:38 (twenty years ago)

We were fucking dying at that point, and at the Maebe/George Michael scene.

I also liked George Michael's protest sign--"I made this one and the one that says 'This is a tricky gray area."

― adam (adam), Monday, 18 April 2005 13:46 (twenty years ago)

this episode was OUT OF CONTROL!
i almost spit out my drink at that GM/Maeby house collapsing scene.
what a crazy show.

― lemin (lemin), Monday, 18 April 2005 13:50 (twenty years ago)

Best use of a Bryan Adams song in the history of the planet, by the way.

― Matthew C Perpetua (inca), Monday, 18 April 2005 14:01 (twenty years ago)

I would love an mp3 of the GOB/Franklin cover of this song.

― Leon Future Coffee (Ex Leon), Monday, 18 April 2005 14:14 (twenty years ago)

I bet it will be on the dvd.

― Matthew C Perpetua (inca), Monday, 18 April 2005 14:40 (twenty years ago)

I think my favorite part last night was Gob's "Look at the two of us, Michael...crying like little babies" and Michael's "Well...only one of is crying."

― n/a (Nick A.), Monday, 18 April 2005 14:46 (twenty years ago)

I think what makes me saddest about AD potentially being cancelled is finding it hard to believe that the actor who plays Gob could be so perfect in anything else. It feels like the part was made for him, and anything else he does is just going to feel like a rip-off of Gob. I could be wrong though.

― n/a (Nick A.), Monday, 18 April 2005 14:48 (twenty years ago)

Last night's episode was so fast-paced - it seemed like they took all the plot development they'd planned before the episode number got cut back and put it in half an hour.

― Brian Miller (Brian Miller), Monday, 18 April 2005 14:49 (twenty years ago)

no, you're right. i've seen him in interviews and he's basically gob in real life too.

(xpost)

― mark p (Mark P), Monday, 18 April 2005 14:50 (twenty years ago)

Though he could probably make a living selling cds of himself singing Bryan Adams songs and saying "Fish fingers...with club sauce."

― n/a (Nick A.), Monday, 18 April 2005 14:54 (twenty years ago)

i was so giggly during the entire episode that i'm sure i missed some great lines!

― kelsey (kelstarry), Monday, 18 April 2005 15:02 (twenty years ago)

Getarrested.com says "Arrested Development returns this summer."

Offers no further info at this point in time.

― Huk-L, Monday, 18 April 2005 15:15 (twenty years ago)

Wow, that's amazing news.

― Matthew C Perpetua (inca), Monday, 18 April 2005 15:19 (twenty years ago)

Hooray!

― happy fun ball (kenan), Monday, 18 April 2005 15:19 (twenty years ago)

Ah, but it might mean "FOX is rerunning the season over the summer."

― Matthew C Perpetua (inca), Monday, 18 April 2005 15:20 (twenty years ago)

laugh-riot, end to end. The hard cot line was hilarious, but I laughed like an idiot at the simple slapstick of George Michael & Maeby on the couch, ~"Well, we didn't get swallowed up into hell".

I think I'm going to watch it again tonight. Pure fucking genious.

xxxxpost: Yay!
xpost: Aw.

― dave225 (Dave225), Monday, 18 April 2005 15:21 (twenty years ago)

generally speaking, you don't run reruns of shows that haven't been picked up. i'm cautiously optimistic.

― mark p (Mark P), Monday, 18 April 2005 15:21 (twenty years ago)

you think? what else are they going to run in its slot over the summer?

― s1ocki (slutsky), Monday, 18 April 2005 15:24 (twenty years ago)

I think ending the season before sweeps in a weird way suggests they will be for sure putting this into season 3, like, Fox is fully resigned to it not being that huge a ratings getter, and thus letting it have a graceful outro before the ratings shenanigens the returning Family Guy is sure to get.

― nickalicious (nickalicious), Monday, 18 April 2005 15:25 (twenty years ago)

lotsa networks use the summer to introduce new shows now. i'm thinking that if fox planned to cancel ar, they'd put the summer slot to better use.

― mark p (Mark P), Monday, 18 April 2005 15:27 (twenty years ago)

and Fox is also launching (or has it already debuted?) the Family Guy redux, American Dad.

― Huk-L, Monday, 18 April 2005 15:28 (twenty years ago)

running it during sweeps is a waste of time for FOX; if it doesn't pull huge ratings now, it certainly won't when it's up against big special episodes of other shows during sweeps. I think FOX wants to save this show and I'm amazed they've stayed with it this long. I wouldn't be surprised if it comes back with more episodes this summer.

― kyle (akmonday), Monday, 18 April 2005 15:29 (twenty years ago)

Yeah, that's a good point. I wouldn't be shocked if they put AD on a different night of the week too. If you look at FOX's schedule, they have a lot of little shows that don't do much better than AD in terms of ratings but stick around anyway.

It's also really really important to note that FOX is not currently following a traditional network schedule anymore - they have shows come and go from the schedule without reruns. They run things in quarterly periods now, so maybe they will have AD only show during the summer schedule and not the fall schedule, etc. Whatever.

― Matthew C Perpetua (inca), Monday, 18 April 2005 15:30 (twenty years ago)

American Dad is the show that will be in AD's place on the new Fox schedule.

― Matthew C Perpetua (inca), Monday, 18 April 2005 15:31 (twenty years ago)

The show has a following, and Fox knows that. The show won an Emmy for best comedy in its first season, and you can't ignore that. The first season has done exceptionally well on DVD. Ratings are not the end of the story with this show.

― happy fun ball (kenan), Monday, 18 April 2005 15:32 (twenty years ago)

American Dad is ASS. At least the one episode they showed (after the Super-Bowl). It was only really "funny" insofar as it was such an obvious rip of Family Guy, with an alien in place of the talking dog.

― nickalicious (nickalicious), Monday, 18 April 2005 15:33 (twenty years ago)

Anyone read anything about when season 2 is going to be on dvd? I would presume that they would put it on the market a few weeks before season 3 began, and if it's returning in the summer, that could be pretty soon.

― Matthew C Perpetua (inca), Monday, 18 April 2005 15:34 (twenty years ago)

I think that FOX is also reluctant to build a large passionate cult and then have a replay of what happened with Family Guy - they don't want to have to look like idiots twice.

― Matthew C Perpetua (inca), Monday, 18 April 2005 15:35 (twenty years ago)

Are DVDs the new Summer Reruns?

― Huk-L, Monday, 18 April 2005 15:37 (twenty years ago)

This may have gone over my head but didn't they show previews from "next season" on last nights episode? or was this an in-joke?

― laurence kansas (lawrence kansas), Monday, 18 April 2005 16:06 (twenty years ago)

a lot of times AD "previews" aren't real previews & other times they are . . . hard to say!

― kelsey (kelstarry), Monday, 18 April 2005 16:21 (twenty years ago)

Those scenes are a fake hook - both to get the audience to anticipate a next episode and as a kind of followup to the episde you just watched. They aren't actually scenes from any future episode.

xpost. They are, sometimes?

― dave225 (Dave225), Monday, 18 April 2005 16:22 (twenty years ago)

ah, I recently got hooked on the show so I didn't know if it was real or not.

― laurence kansas (lawrence kansas), Monday, 18 April 2005 16:24 (twenty years ago)

The previews almost never have anything to do with what happens in the next episode.

― Leon Future Coffee (Ex Leon), Monday, 18 April 2005 16:30 (twenty years ago)

Word. They usually just milk three or four more jokes out of the episodes plot.

― Huk-L, Monday, 18 April 2005 16:37 (twenty years ago)

The only time I can ever think of the "On The Next Episode Of Arrested Development" teaser having anything to do with the next episode is when Buster had his hand bitten off by the loose seal.

― Matthew C Perpetua (inca), Monday, 18 April 2005 16:40 (twenty years ago)

yeah the pilot of the show had "on the next episode" and they had no idea whether it'd be picked up when they did that.

― j blount (papa la bas), Monday, 18 April 2005 17:02 (twenty years ago)

I can't remember if it was on the DVD or on Charlie Rose where they talked about how those fake teasers had a big impact on the test screenings.

― Huk-L, Monday, 18 April 2005 17:03 (twenty years ago)

I got these from another board

http://members.westnet.com.au/akrutter/GobFranklin.mp3

http://members.westnet.com.au/akrutter/EverythingIDo.mp3

This episode was brilliant. I loved it. I squealed when I saw Maeby and GM kiss. Ack! So wrong yet so very very right.

― rocknrolldetox (rocknrolldetox), Monday, 18 April 2005 17:08 (twenty years ago)

What was more worrying is that I thought GOB was going to start making out with Michael at the end of the episode.

― Leon Future Coffee (Ex Leon), Monday, 18 April 2005 17:15 (twenty years ago)

I MISSED IT!

SHIT!

Will they rerun it?!

― Rocker For Light (on a Bad Brains kick) (Eleventy-Twelve), Monday, 18 April 2005 17:32 (twenty years ago)

so daft, so corny, but these things have apparently had an impact in the past - http://www.usatoday.com/life/television/save-our-shows.htm

― j blount (papa la bas), Monday, 18 April 2005 17:43 (twenty years ago)

They had a real teaser in between the two-part blind lawyer episodes in season 1. They showed Tobias sneaking around the house and Julia L-D picking up a bat, a scene which was actually in the next episode. But it's pretty rare. They also did "Next season on Arrested Development" at the end of season one without knowing if they would have a season two.

― n/a (Nick A.), Monday, 18 April 2005 18:16 (twenty years ago)

the weird thing about last night's ep is that i thought they'd do a "next season on" instead of a strict next episode on.

― s1ocki (slutsky), Monday, 18 April 2005 18:56 (twenty years ago)

they did say "next season on"!

― j blount (papa la bas), Monday, 18 April 2005 18:57 (twenty years ago)

yes they did.

― cutty (mcutt), Monday, 18 April 2005 18:58 (twenty years ago)

guys i was pretty high, cut me some slack here.

― s1ocki (slutsky), Monday, 18 April 2005 19:34 (twenty years ago)

Well it's worth nothing that the only time they've done teasers on the "Next On..." thing, it was in the context of episodes that were intentionally structured as two-parters.

― Matthew C Perpetua (inca), Monday, 18 April 2005 21:50 (twenty years ago)

fuck, I love this show so much.

― cozen (Cozen), Monday, 18 April 2005 21:58 (twenty years ago)

I'm only asking fr a high five!

― cozen (Cozen), Monday, 18 April 2005 21:59 (twenty years ago)

Errr, I meant "worth noting" but it's probably "worth nothing" too in the grand scheme of things.

― Matthew C Perpetua (inca), Monday, 18 April 2005 22:02 (twenty years ago)

I hope the second season comes out on dvd because I (sadly) haven't watched any of it! I wasn't done watching season one on dvd when it started. I did tape most of them but it's more convenient to just buy the dvds. I'd bittorrent the whole thing if I could find it i guess.

― kyle (akmonday), Monday, 18 April 2005 22:34 (twenty years ago)

i love arrested development so much it hurts. the best thing about mondays recently has been getting each episode from bittorrent. the worst thing is not having anyone to talk about it with as it isn't shown here in the uk. i am totally psyched that there is going to be a third series.

― stirmonster (stirmonster), Tuesday, 19 April 2005 00:39 (twenty years ago)

there's so much from the beginning of the second season that we've forgotten about..

like gene parmesan and ICE the bounty hunter...

plus the amount of chicken dancing that run throughout the entire season... amazing.

― cutty (mcutt), Tuesday, 19 April 2005 01:01 (twenty years ago)

also, in last night's episode, when maebe asked george michael if he remembered the "dangerous cousins" movie.. his reaction was fucking COMEDY GOLD.

― cutty (mcutt), Tuesday, 19 April 2005 01:03 (twenty years ago)

imagine how long the thread would be if we posted every single joke on the entire show ... something funny happens on average every 5 seconds, i bet

why i love this show so much

― lemin (lemin), Tuesday, 19 April 2005 01:08 (twenty years ago)

xpost: Yes! I rewatched the episode this morning and that's exactly what I thought - pure gold!

This episode also seemed to have a lot of music in it, pos more than usual, but most of it was referencing music in previous episodes, e.g., the moppy, head down music, the crazy mexican music, etc. Aw, I love it.

(And the ongoing Tobias joke/tick wherein he "might want to watch his choice of words" - last night: "Oh, Michael, I see you've found someone to fill my seat hole!" hahaha. Yeah, but this is contributing to the long thread business, er, yeah.) Okay, I too fcking love this show too much.

― rrrobyn (rrrobyn), Tuesday, 19 April 2005 01:14 (twenty years ago)

there's a web site that chronicles every joke ever made on AD but it doesn't seem to be up right now:

http://the-op.com/

― cutty (mcutt), Tuesday, 19 April 2005 01:14 (twenty years ago)

Stirmonster, the first season just finished airing in the UK, not sure on what channel. I just know that some of my UK friends finally got to see it and got hooked too.

― Matthew C Perpetua (inca), Tuesday, 19 April 2005 01:47 (twenty years ago)

i think it was maybe on a digital channel that i don't have matthew. i can't wait for season 3.

― stirmonster (stirmonster), Tuesday, 19 April 2005 02:22 (twenty years ago)

don't get your hopes up too high. still a chance there might not be a season 3.

i think the "SUMMER" thing on the web site is referring to re-runs.

― cutty (mcutt), Tuesday, 19 April 2005 02:32 (twenty years ago)

the tagline of "les cousins dangereux" had me LOLing for like five minutes - "a 'relative' masterpiece of complex eroticism"

― joseph (joseph), Tuesday, 19 April 2005 02:50 (twenty years ago)

and then George Michael quotes it! "... if it maintains any of the complex eroticism of the french original..." and then, under his breath, "I like the way they think." omg, so great.

― rrrobyn (rrrobyn), Tuesday, 19 April 2005 03:33 (twenty years ago)

How about the narration, though, classic or dud? I've only started watching recently, after not liking the first couple episodes, and the narration seems to be making sure we realize how "funny" it is. It does seem better now, but the unqualified love I see here makes me wonder. It seems like any other show would be lambasted for the narration. It also reminds me of Soap, which I didn't like too much because it seemed to be constantly congratulating itself on how "out there" it was. Didn't they also have a guy with a dummy?

― nickn (nickn), Tuesday, 19 April 2005 05:46 (twenty years ago)

there is a lot of arrested development love in glasgow.

― cozen (Cozen), Tuesday, 19 April 2005 09:00 (twenty years ago)

nick, the narration serves to keep new viewers up-to-date on what is going on, because without ron howard, the show would NEVER get any new viewers.

every single joke, plot point, is a reference to something in a previous episode, maybe even the first season...

― cutty (mcutt), Tuesday, 19 April 2005 10:07 (twenty years ago)

I think the narration is totally classic. It's just one more way to pack in jokes, and I love it. They narrator gets some really good zingers. And then there's times when the narrator becomes a character himself, like in the recent one where he's ripping on the shoddy narration in the episode of Scandal Makers. Yeah, and it's helpful too, even to people like me who are way into the show and have seen every episode at least twice.

― Matthew C Perpetua (inca), Tuesday, 19 April 2005 11:13 (twenty years ago)

Another great thing that the narration allows for is making the episodes denser with plot - since they can explain a lot of things in a couple seconds, they can keep the characters coming and going rapidly, zooming through several scenes in only a few minutes. It allows for a more complicated story structure, and that is essential to the appeal of the show. Take any given episode and turn it into a chart - they are all amazingly dense plots.

― Matthew C Perpetua (inca), Tuesday, 19 April 2005 11:17 (twenty years ago)

"It also reminds me of Soap..."

I would definitely agree on this point, but I think Soap was a really funny show. A few years back when Nick ran a big Soap marathon, I was suprised how well it held up. Like Arrested Development, Soap had a great cast. Richard Mulligan as Burt on Soap was my favorite character.

― earlnash, Tuesday, 19 April 2005 12:36 (twenty years ago)

Good call on the reason for narration, Matthew. Best deadpan narrator line of the last episode: when Gob makes his unconscious dad kiss him in the staircar: "It was weird."

― rrrobyn (rrrobyn), Tuesday, 19 April 2005 13:12 (twenty years ago)

I didn’t say he was totally into it.

― Huk-L, Tuesday, 19 April 2005 14:06 (twenty years ago)

hahaha! I like how sometimes the jokes seem like they're written by 15-year-old boys.

― rrrobyn (rrrobyn), Tuesday, 19 April 2005 14:15 (twenty years ago)

cutty that website is awesome!

"In 1998, Riley Weston was exposed as a 32-year-old actress who pretended to be 19 to write for the show Felicity. She fooled show producers, her agent, manager, lawyer, media, and even Disney, who signed her to a six-figure development deal. Felicity was executive produced by Ron Howard and Brian Grazer."

― mark p (Mark P), Tuesday, 19 April 2005 14:46 (twenty years ago)

OH SHIT I REMEMBER THAT.

― cutty (mcutt), Tuesday, 19 April 2005 14:54 (twenty years ago)

Ha, I knew about that and still didn't put two and two together.

― Matthew C Perpetua (inca), Tuesday, 19 April 2005 14:55 (twenty years ago)

matthew otm about the narration. i think it's great. i'm kind of in a real narration-loving period of my life right now!

― s1ocki (slutsky), Tuesday, 19 April 2005 15:10 (twenty years ago)

One thing I've been thinking about is how the narrative tricks used on Arrested Development are more similar to comic books than what is typical of television or cinema. The narration is one thing, but also how the narrator will refer to something else, but also show it quickly, like a one-panel image. It's not hard to imagine any given episode in terms of a comic page layout. (The writers are obvs using a lot of "universe" continuity stuff that's definitely very comics, but also owing to The Simpsons and SCTV). I love that they take advantage of the cheapness of digital video production to shoot so many different scenes, which would be a totally prohibitive cost otherwise.

― Matthew C Perpetua (inca), Tuesday, 19 April 2005 15:23 (twenty years ago)

is ad shot on digital? i didn't realize that.

― mark p (Mark P), Tuesday, 19 April 2005 15:25 (twenty years ago)

Yeah, it's entirely shot on digital video. So is Curb Your Enthusiasm. I think "fix" the footage in post-production a bit so it doesn't look so "home movie." Well, I know Curb does that, but I'm guessing that AD does as well.

― Matthew C Perpetua (inca), Tuesday, 19 April 2005 15:27 (twenty years ago)

it looks good for digital. maybe there's an expensive telecine involved.

― mark p (Mark P), Tuesday, 19 April 2005 15:28 (twenty years ago)

http://www.getarrested.com/

― maria tessa sciarrino (theoreticalgirl), Tuesday, 19 April 2005 16:46 (twenty years ago)

a lot of stuff is shot on digital these days! HD looks so good you don't really have to fix it, especially for tv.

― s1ocki (slutsky), Tuesday, 19 April 2005 16:57 (twenty years ago)

If you're looking for a film that shows how far HD has come, go see It's All Gone Pete Tong right away (well, go see it anyway, it's fantastic). It looks absolutely amazing.

― Oblivious Lad (Matthew Lazowski), Tuesday, 19 April 2005 17:29 (twenty years ago)

"maybe I could put it in her brownie."

― cozen (Cozen), Tuesday, 19 April 2005 18:46 (twenty years ago)

http://www.abramsartists.com/voicereels/commercial.NY/men.mp3%27s/ARNETT.WILL.Commercial.mp3.mp3

― mark p (Mark P), Tuesday, 19 April 2005 19:13 (twenty years ago)

Tony Hale aka Buster is going to be on the Pamela Anderson skincom tonight.

― Huk-L, Wednesday, 20 April 2005 19:13 (twenty years ago)

I love you, mark p.

― Leon Future Coffee (Ex Leon), Wednesday, 20 April 2005 19:28 (twenty years ago)

MARK P is my prince.

― cutty (mcutt), Wednesday, 20 April 2005 21:18 (twenty years ago)

HOt Jobs...with club sauce.

― h0t h0t h0rsey (Carey), Wednesday, 20 April 2005 23:23 (twenty years ago)

omg, amazing.
Must now watch club sauce episode again.

― rrrobyn (rrrobyn), Wednesday, 20 April 2005 23:54 (twenty years ago)

Wow, that Pamela Anderson show is so bad. Regardless, Tony Hale still did well working with bad writing.

― Matthew C Perpetua (inca), Thursday, 21 April 2005 00:27 (twenty years ago)

I will knife a hobo to see this movie:

ARRESTING DEVELOPMENT: Just call it Arrested Development: The Movie. As reported by Variety, some of the key players behind Fox's endangered satire are teaming up for a Universal Pictures comedy starring Arrested scene-stealer Will Arnett. The untitled pic, written by Chuck Martin (an Arrested scribe) and helmed by Joe and Anthony Russo (both Arrested directors), finds Arnett playing a guy who attends his 20th high-school reunion and tells his dream girl a pack of lies about being a huge success in New York. When she shows up in the Big Apple, he's forced to go to great lengths to keep up the ruse.

― Leon Future Coffee (Ex Leon), Friday, 22 April 2005 15:22 (twenty years ago)

oh MAN.

― mark p (Mark P), Friday, 22 April 2005 15:25 (twenty years ago)

the gob video on getarrested.com is so goddamned funny.

― mark p (Mark P), Friday, 22 April 2005 15:26 (twenty years ago)

The Tobais video is nothing to shake a stick at, either.

― Brian Miller (Brian Miller), Friday, 22 April 2005 15:36 (twenty years ago)

I'll line up for that movie now.

― Huk-L, Friday, 22 April 2005 15:46 (twenty years ago)

OMG they should have Amy Poehler play the dream girl!

― nickalicious (nickalicious), Friday, 22 April 2005 16:57 (twenty years ago)

$20 says, duh!

― Huk-L, Friday, 22 April 2005 17:03 (twenty years ago)

EXCEPT...Amy Poehler is funny. Dream Girls in comedies tend to be goodlooking and little more, so it would be a big waste to use Poehler for that. BUT if they make the Dream Girl actually have a personality and shit, and let her be a part of the humour, then Hell yeah.

― Huk-L, Friday, 22 April 2005 17:24 (twenty years ago)

I've only just seen "Sword of Destiny". It's like a 22 minute firestorm of The Funny.

'Do you like bread? Have some.'

'We're going to have to figure out something to do so that people will be able to look at you without wanting to kill themselves.'

Also Dan Castellaneta shortening Michael's calf muscles to 'theoretically increase his jumping ability'.

― Fergal (Ferg), Monday, 25 April 2005 01:39 (twenty years ago)

Tony Wonder: So let’s get down to business, shall we? Hey, can you go wait with the other assistants over there?
G.O.B.: What?
Buster: No. Whatever you say to me, you can say to him. I grant him magic sanctuary.
G.O.B.: You grant me...? Come on, you can’t just make up...
Tony Wonder: No, that’s fine. I second the sanctuary, but with the clause of silence.
Tony Wonder: So I want you guys to be on Use Your Illusion. Only now it’s “allusion” with an “A.” So if you guys want to put an allusion in there somewhere, like Poe or something... Don’t do Poe, ’cause I’m doing Poe.
Buster: What about Chaucer?

Tony Wonder: Just not Poe, okay?

― Matthew C Perpetua (inca), Monday, 25 April 2005 02:05 (twenty years ago)

I'm already going through withdrawl, but this is making me feel better.

http://www.smashstatusquo.net/arresteddevelopment.mp3

― rocknrolldetox (rocknrolldetox), Monday, 25 April 2005 15:50 (twenty years ago)

As if today wasn't bad enough as it is:

http://www.defamer.com/hollywood/tv/shows/index.php#arrested-development-deathwatch-ad-finally-canceled-100931

I hope this isn't true. I don't think I've really been upset about a television show being cancelled up until now.

― Leon (I Hate You So Much Right Now) Future Coffee (Ex Leon), Monday, 25 April 2005 20:07 (twenty years ago)

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO.

― mark p (Mark P), Monday, 25 April 2005 20:10 (twenty years ago)

No.

― mark p (Mark P), Monday, 25 April 2005 20:10 (twenty years ago)

the second season is a lot better, than the first, I think.

― RJG (RJG), Monday, 25 April 2005 20:30 (twenty years ago)

Oh shit. I didn't see that.

I was just coming on to say that Marc Cherry, creator of Desperate Housewives, protested in the Season Finale of AD, used to work with Hurwitz on Golden Girls.

― Huk-L, Thursday, 28 April 2005 19:00 (twenty years ago)

The Defamer bit didn't really have any facts in it. Just speculation. Mind you, that's what I said about Blue Beetle.

― Huk-L, Thursday, 28 April 2005 19:06 (twenty years ago)

No.

― mark p (Mark P), Thursday, 28 April 2005 22:46 (twenty years ago)

the show cascades.

― cozen (Cozen), Thursday, 28 April 2005 22:49 (twenty years ago)

Remember if Fox dumps it, it doesnt' mean the show is over. FX could grab it, The WB or UPN could grab it, etc.

That Grounded For Life show was picked up by The WB after Fox cancelled it, and that show wasn't even remotely as popular.

― Matthew C Perpetua (inca), Friday, 29 April 2005 00:13 (twenty years ago)

http://www.aintitcoolnews.com/display.cgi?id=20109

― mark p (Mark P), Tuesday, 3 May 2005 12:59 (twenty years ago)

Hey! That is cool!

― slightly more subdued (kenan), Tuesday, 3 May 2005 13:28 (twenty years ago)

Plus it contradicts the whole idea of AD as a "fringe" show that will never draw many viewers - isn't USA Today the top selling newspaper in the country? That's pretty cool!

― n/a (Nick A.), Tuesday, 3 May 2005 13:38 (twenty years ago)

Although, reading that the previous years winner, by a larger percentage, was a Star Trek show tempers something.

― Huk-L, Tuesday, 3 May 2005 13:46 (twenty years ago)

that's great news - corny as it is that thing does have an impact year in year out (i think i linked to it above; if not i meant to) and it's very good news that it's a winner that's a non-scifi show, it seems to indicate more 'people realise this is a good show, give it time' more than 'it has a devoted core audience but likelihood of it breaking out are slim' ie. more a potential 'seinfeld' than a potential 'angel', and i'm guessing that option is more attractive to fox suits. i'm kinda surprised it won too - when i voted earlier it was way down in the pack.

― j blount (papa la bas), Tuesday, 3 May 2005 15:59 (twenty years ago)

the new gossip, cour. friend of a friend (take it with a tablespoon of salt) is that incoming fox prez p3t3r l1g0ur1 will give a.r. a mercy renewal in the form of something like an eight episode order. this would save him the indignity of having a.r.'s cancellation dovetail so closely with his taking over the reins.

― mark p (Mark P), Thursday, 5 May 2005 20:33 (twenty years ago)

I hate to disagree with Dick Van Patten, but Eight Isn't Enough!

― Leon Federline (Ex Leon), Thursday, 5 May 2005 20:37 (twenty years ago)

although it's total hearsay, this scenario makes a lot of sense to me.

― mark p (Mark P), Thursday, 5 May 2005 20:40 (twenty years ago)

It does, but I'm hoping it's not true.

― Leon Federline (Ex Leon), Thursday, 5 May 2005 20:41 (twenty years ago)

at this point i'll take what i can get. i'd already written the show off anyway - at least this would give them one last chance to improve their numbers.

― mark p (Mark P), Thursday, 5 May 2005 20:45 (twenty years ago)

A co-worker was (I'm pretty sure) listening to Arrested Development through headphones yesterday, and I thought the beats sounded pretty good, as overheard from her headphones.

― RS_LaRue (RSLaRue), Thursday, 5 May 2005 21:25 (twenty years ago)

(Whoops)

― RS_LaRue (RSLaRue), Thursday, 5 May 2005 21:27 (twenty years ago)

It is all about the beats.

― Huk-L, Friday, 6 May 2005 15:22 (twenty years ago)

it might be best that the show end soon really. the best english series run what, two series? it's already got more episodes than Spaced or Fawlty Towers or the Office. we should consider ourselves lucky.

― kyle (akmonday), Friday, 6 May 2005 21:52 (twenty years ago)

Kyle is right sorta - that's what I always think, we've got 40 episodes of AD, which is a lot when there are only 14 episodes of The Office, 12 episodes of Peep Show, 30 episodes of Strangers With Candy, etc. If they can bring it up to 48 or 60, then we luck out. Otherwise, it was the most perfect American sitcom run of all time.

― Matthew C Perpetua (inca), Saturday, 7 May 2005 16:49 (twenty years ago)

Oh yeah, apparently Michael "George Michael" Cera and Tony "Buster" Hale are going to be on Mad TV tonight.

― Matthew C Perpetua (inca), Saturday, 7 May 2005 16:49 (twenty years ago)

Actually Tivo says the entire cast of AD is on Mad TV...

― Matthew C Perpetua (inca), Saturday, 7 May 2005 16:51 (twenty years ago)

I don't know if anyone has mentioned it but. one of the best, but silent, jokes of the whole series is this: annyong was sent off to the school for boys ("children should be neither seen nor heard") in like ep. 4/5 to learn how to one of their boys. we haven't heard a peep from him (I've only seen up to ep. 15) for nigh on 10 episodes now and nobodies mentioned him.

― cozen (Cozen), Saturday, 7 May 2005 17:01 (twenty years ago)

Actually Tivo says the entire cast of AD is on Mad TV...

maybe Mad TV will actually be funny for once.

one of the best, but silent, jokes of the whole series is this:

it seems to me that this is more of a foolproof way of not getting anyone to question why Annyong isn't on the show anymore. it's clever but not necessarily funny

― lemin (lemin), Saturday, 7 May 2005 17:17 (twenty years ago)

made me laugh.

― cozen (Cozen), Saturday, 7 May 2005 17:19 (twenty years ago)

buster was on the pam anderson sitcom earlier this week.

― j blount (papa la bas), Saturday, 7 May 2005 19:02 (twenty years ago)

Are you guys living two weeks to a month ago?
The Mad TV and Pam Show cameos happened a long time ago.
Or maybe it's rerun season already.

― Huk-L, Saturday, 7 May 2005 19:55 (twenty years ago)

Will Arnett Takes a Ride on RV

Arrested Development actor Will Arnett has been cast in Red Wagon's RV at Columbia Pictures, joining leads Robin Williams and Cheryl Hines. Barry Sonnenfeld is directing the film, which begins shooting this month in Vancouver.

Arnett will play Todd, slave-driving boss to Bob (Williams) at the Sparkle Beverage Co., who tells Bob that if he wants to keep his job he can't go on vacation but instead has to take a meeting in Colorado. Bob opts to load his family into an RV en route to Boulder, hoping they won't realize the real reason for the trip.

George Rodkey wrote the script; Lowell Ganz and Babaloo Mandel did the rewrite.

― mark p (Mark P), Sunday, 8 May 2005 20:43 (twenty years ago)

and ALSO:

In their second deal within a week, Will Arnett and Joe and Anthony Russo have sold their comedy pitch "Dad Can't Lose" to Paramount Pictures. Arnett is attached to star, and the Russo brothers are attached to direct. The project will be written by Jay Martel and Ian Roberts. Peter Principato and Paul Young will produce through their Principato Young banner, with Allen Fischer executive producing. Alli Shearmur and Andrew Haas will oversee the project for Paramount.

― mark p (Mark P), Sunday, 8 May 2005 20:44 (twenty years ago)

Oh sweet, that must be the Ian Roberts from the Upright Citizen's Brigade.

― Matthew C Perpetua (inca), Sunday, 8 May 2005 21:07 (twenty years ago)

Ian Roberts = The Doctor on the show who is overly literal.

― Matthew C Perpetua (inca), Sunday, 8 May 2005 21:11 (twenty years ago)

Dr. Wordsmith!

I love Cheryl Hines.

― n/a (Nick A.), Sunday, 8 May 2005 23:24 (twenty years ago)

n/a OTM re: loving Cheryl Hines.

I think RV is filming next door to me!

― Huk-L, Monday, 9 May 2005 14:53 (twenty years ago)

http://www.hbo.com/larrydavid/img/episodeguide/slideshow/ep30/ep30_cheryl.jpg

I'd hit it.

― slightly more subdued (kenan), Monday, 9 May 2005 16:06 (twenty years ago)

there are so many ways that statement is just wrong, wrong, wrong.

― kelsey (kelstarry), Monday, 9 May 2005 16:08 (twenty years ago)

Also, she has (in a fictional context) proven to be capable of withstanding the company of a self-loathing/self-involved sociopath with receding hairline, ergo, she would love me! (I'm taller than LD!)

― Huk-L, Monday, 9 May 2005 16:08 (twenty years ago)

I think RV is filming next door to me!

I hate you.

― Leon Federline (Ex Leon), Monday, 9 May 2005 16:14 (twenty years ago)

there are so many ways that statement is just wrong, wrong, wrong.

Name one.

― slightly more subdued (kenan), Monday, 9 May 2005 16:14 (twenty years ago)

here's two:

"hit"
-&-
"it"

― kelsey (kelstarry), Monday, 9 May 2005 16:17 (twenty years ago)

ihttp://www.joblo.com/newsimages1/cherylhines981.jpg

― slightly more subdued (kenan), Monday, 9 May 2005 16:18 (twenty years ago)

ihttp://www.tvtome.com/images/people/56/4/6-21842-sm.jpg

She is teh cuet!

― slightly more subdued (kenan), Monday, 9 May 2005 16:20 (twenty years ago)

My pitchures don't work today. I am sad and also blue.

― slightly more subdued (kenan), Monday, 9 May 2005 16:22 (twenty years ago)

Slightly more on the thred topic, I would also hit this.

http://aux.isifa.com/new.isifa.com/data/dispatch/splash_McCartney_boutique_LA_092003_images/78.jpg

MY GOD JUST LOOK AT HER I WANT HER TO STEP ON MY FACE AND MAKE ME EAT DIRT

― slightly more subdued (kenan), Monday, 9 May 2005 16:26 (twenty years ago)

This is not the thread for this...kind of thing.

― Leon Federline (Ex Leon), Monday, 9 May 2005 16:30 (twenty years ago)

problems

― RJG (RJG), Monday, 9 May 2005 16:33 (twenty years ago)

do you know how disappointing it is to click on this thread thinking there'll be some tidbit of a.d. renewal information only to read about kenan's creepy sex fantasies? oh, you do.

― mark p (Mark P), Monday, 9 May 2005 16:36 (twenty years ago)

She's a lesbian, Kenan.

I agree they are both very cute, but Cheryl Hines is more cute because of the way she talks/moves than how she looks in a picture I think.

The fact that her character is in love with Larry David's character makes you hate him a little less - like, hey, there must really be something good about this guy if she keeps standing by him...

― Sarah McLusky (coco), Monday, 9 May 2005 16:42 (twenty years ago)

I always find myself pondering their marriage. Like, how long have they been married? It seems like maybe they haven't been married that long, but maybe I just think that because they don't have kids. (on the Season One DVD, they explain the choice to not have kids on the show because LD really liked the fridge in their house, and didn't want to hide it behind kids' drawings)

― Huk-L, Monday, 9 May 2005 16:55 (twenty years ago)

Also, P dR is very hot. Especially when she wears the SLUT shirt.

― Huk-L, Monday, 9 May 2005 16:55 (twenty years ago)

otm mark p!

― kelsey (kelstarry), Monday, 9 May 2005 17:03 (twenty years ago)

The fact that her character is in love with Larry David's character makes you hate him a little less

Hate him? I could never hate him. He is my soulmate.

― slightly more subdued (kenan), Monday, 9 May 2005 17:38 (twenty years ago)

I don't really hate him either, but he makes me cringe sometimes.

― Sarah McLusky (coco), Monday, 9 May 2005 17:40 (twenty years ago)

Oh, yeah, that's the whole thing about him. But I do that to myself often enough, too. I just love the way the whole show is this misanthropic fantasy world where all his fears, even the smallest fears, come true. I've thrown things in someone else's trash before, and just for a second, I was afraid someone would yell at me for doing that. On Larry David's show, it *happens*.

― slightly more subdued (kenan), Monday, 9 May 2005 17:44 (twenty years ago)

jaymc to thread.

"he says what we're all thinking"

― kelsey (kelstarry), Monday, 9 May 2005 19:08 (twenty years ago)

Curb Your Enthusiasm - C or D?

― Leon Federline (Ex Leon), Monday, 9 May 2005 19:28 (twenty years ago)

Yeah, yeah, I know. Derailed. I will say my hail marys later.

― slightly more subdued (kenan), Monday, 9 May 2005 19:29 (twenty years ago)

Booya!

Arrested Development fans, brace yourselves. I have some good news and--well, you might want to sit down for this--some mind-blowing, earth-shattering, out-of-this-world, fantastic news.

Earlier this week, a friend here at E! interviewed Jason Bateman at a charity event with his good friend Ben Stiller. When asked the status of Arrested Development, he lit up like a banana stand: "Actually, great. Supergreat. There is a heartbeat. There is no flatline. And there may be twins. I'm going to let Kristin figure out what that means. I can't comment any further, but there will be an announcement next week."

Mary-Kate, Ashley OlsenAfter various calls to Mary-Kate and Ashley Olsen, Pamela Anderson and Jennifer Garner's OB-GYN re "twins," I can tell you that Jason's little hint had nothing whatsoever to do with any of those things. And while there are 17 listings for a "J. Bateman" in the local Hollywood white pages, none of them know a damned thing about the fate of Arrested Development. But glory be, after much badgering and pestering, two rock-solid Fox sources, who have never failed me before, caved and gave me the lowdown.

Though they're still dotting I's and crossing T's on the final documents, I'm told Fox network and 20th Century Fox studio are "99.9 percent of the way there" to reaching an agreement on the new season. According to these highly placed sources, it looks very likely that Arrested Development will be coming back not only for a full season of 22 episodes but actually two full seasons of 22 episodes. How freaking fantastic is that?

At press time, I can tell you this is precisely where the show's fate stands. So, barring any last-minute switch-a-roonies or bad acts by Satan or Rupert Murdoch, we will get glorious "twin" seasons of the best damn comedy on TV.

According to these insiders, even though the ratings weren't exactly American Idol numbers, Fox's new prez, Peter Liguori, bless his perceptive little heart, has faith that the show will do well in a different time slot. He also wants to bring AD up to the magical episode number required for syndication and feels the show will do very well in repeats and also in DVD. Can I get a "Hell, yeah!"?

― Matthew C Perpetua (inca), Friday, 13 May 2005 11:29 (twenty years ago)

that is insane. great news if it pans out

― kyle (akmonday), Friday, 13 May 2005 12:07 (twenty years ago)

NICE WORK

― cutty (mcutt), Friday, 13 May 2005 13:10 (twenty years ago)

INTERNET PETITIONS WIN AGAIN!

― Huk-L, Friday, 13 May 2005 13:48 (twenty years ago)

Heheh. Multiseason contracts are lovely things, I had the same joyful feeling when I learned many years back that MST3K had a three-year, 24 episode per season contract with Comedy Central (when they were talking to each other).

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 13 May 2005 13:54 (twenty years ago)

"TWO MORE MARTAS, TWO MORE MARTAS"

― mark p (Mark P), Friday, 13 May 2005 13:54 (twenty years ago)

Sure, everyone knows there were two Martas, but does anyone remember that there were two Eggs, too? I meant Anne.

― Huk-L, Friday, 13 May 2005 13:57 (twenty years ago)

I think the second Marta is in that Mindhunters movie. At least I thought I saw her in the preview.

― n/a (Nick A.), Friday, 13 May 2005 14:03 (twenty years ago)

marta v1.0 owns

― mark p (Mark P), Friday, 13 May 2005 14:05 (twenty years ago)

That's where I saw her recently. GOB is in that Monster-In-Law, btw.

― Huk-L, Friday, 13 May 2005 14:05 (twenty years ago)

I'd feel a lot better about this news if it weren't Kristen fucking Veitch reporting this. Fifty percent of her information is usually wrong, she's the one who said Angel was being renewed a couple of days before it was cancelled.

― Leon Federline (Ex Leon), Friday, 13 May 2005 14:13 (twenty years ago)

It's official! Yay! Though it seems I was half right, it was not a two season pick up:

FOX DOES MORE TIME WITH “ARRESTED DEVELOPMENT” ORDERING A FULL THIRD SEASON

FOX gets ARRESTED again. The network has ordered a third full season of the Emmy Award-winning comedy
series ARRESTED DEVELOPMENT, it was announced today by Peter Liguori, President, Entertainment for Fox
Broadcasting Company.

“ARRESTED DEVELOPMENT is one of the best comedies on television. The decision to order another season
becomes easy when you consider its amazing cast, creative brilliance, critical acclaim and advertiser appeal,” said Liguori. “It’s my first official pick-up since taking the job, and I think it’s a great way to start.”

― Leon Federline (Ex Leon), Monday, 16 May 2005 20:29 (twenty years ago)

YAY

― adam (adam), Monday, 16 May 2005 20:35 (twenty years ago)

aw-fuckin-right

― M Philip O'Nyman (Ferg), Monday, 16 May 2005 20:43 (twenty years ago)

: )

― RJG (RJG), Monday, 16 May 2005 20:49 (twenty years ago)

awesome

bring on the second season DVDs so I can watch them, now

― kyle (akmonday), Monday, 16 May 2005 20:53 (twenty years ago)

haaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay

― cutty (mcutt), Monday, 16 May 2005 20:55 (twenty years ago)

I knew it wouldn't be cancelled. It would've been a bad business decision, and it's good that they knew it.

I'm so psyched for season 3!

― Matthew C Perpetua (inca), Monday, 16 May 2005 21:04 (twenty years ago)

awesome!

― s1ocki (slutsky), Monday, 16 May 2005 21:20 (twenty years ago)

one month passes...

I miss it.

― n/a (Nick A.), Thursday, 23 June 2005 15:48 (twenty years ago)

Do you miss the show, or do you miss the bonding that would take place on this thread after each episode?

― Huk-L, Thursday, 23 June 2005 15:50 (twenty years ago)

Fuck a bonding.

― n/a (Nick A.), Thursday, 23 June 2005 15:51 (twenty years ago)

This show creeps me out. Most of the locations are within a few blocks of my house. At night, I think Justin Bateman is riding down my street on his bicycle with a knife, looking for me.

― ryan duelberg (duelberg), Thursday, 23 June 2005 18:02 (twenty years ago)

the DVD RRP has currently dropped from $49.95 to like $23 in mongrel-land, yay

― kit brash (kit brash), Friday, 24 June 2005 03:55 (twenty years ago)

Fuck, I'd take Jason Bateman riding down my street under ANY condition, including "with a knife"... you guys take celeb proximity for granted!

― scout (scout), Friday, 24 June 2005 05:01 (twenty years ago)

one month passes...

All of season 2 will be re-run in four ep. runs starting tonight!

I can't wait to see Afternoon Delight again.

"Maybe I'll put it in her brownie" Hee. I'm 10.

― rocknrolldetox (rocknrolldetox), Friday, 29 July 2005 21:26 (twenty years ago)

Fuck, I'd take Jason Bateman riding down my street under ANY condition, including "with a knife"... you guys take celeb proximity for granted!

Well, it likely happens when I'm at work, so I'm not seeing Jason Bateman in front of my house, fwiw. More along the lines of oh, look the magician brother is wrestling with his brothers in the grass of my city hall...

― Dr. Glen Y. Abreu (dr g), Friday, 29 July 2005 21:47 (twenty years ago)

one month passes...

Boo-yah!

http://tv.zap2it.com/tveditorial/tve_main/1,1002,271%7C97397%7C1%7C,00.html

Scott Baio: that's right - now a cast member. They sure are mining the ranks of Happy Days on this show.

As funny as Henry Winkler is as the family attorney, I don't particularly mind the idea of bringing Baio in no matter how bad of an idea you may think it sounds. After all, Jason Bateman isn't exactly the first guy I think of when gut-busting comedy is mentioned, yet he's golden on the show. All signs point to greatness.

New season begins September 19th. Let's start the anticipatin'.

― Werner Herzog Eats His Shoe (Plastic Gas Booby Trap), Friday, 9 September 2005 17:03 (twenty years ago)

The FOX Monday night lineup is probably going to PWN network TV. Arrested Development, Kitchen Confidential, Prison Break vs. like NOTHING the other networks got NOTHING.

― nickalicious (nickalicious), Friday, 9 September 2005 17:07 (twenty years ago)

"We're thrilled to have Chachi here," cracks Will Arnett (Gob Bluth). "I'm hoping Pat Morita is next."

― Huk-L (Huk-L), Friday, 9 September 2005 17:14 (twenty years ago)

And hey, it's now on MONDAY, which is great because that's the day I usually feel like being lazy and watching TV and there's never anything good on TV on Monday. But wait, what channel is Monday Night Football on? This isn't going to get preempted, is it?

― n/a (Nick A.), Friday, 9 September 2005 17:18 (twenty years ago)

I think ABC has Monday Night Football. But I could be wrong. Hopefully, I'm not.

― Werner Herzog Eats His Vegetables (Plastic Gas Booby Trap), Friday, 9 September 2005 17:27 (twenty years ago)

I think ABC has monday night football. but i could be wrong. though i hope i'm not.

― Werner Herzog Eats His Shoe (Plastic Gas Booby Trap), Friday, 9 September 2005 17:28 (twenty years ago)

ABC this season, ESPN next season.

― Pleasant Plains /// (Pleasant Plains ///), Friday, 9 September 2005 17:31 (twenty years ago)

whoops

― Werner Herzog Eats His Vegetables (Plastic Gas Booby Trap), Friday, 9 September 2005 17:32 (twenty years ago)

What night is Monday Night Football on?

― Huk-L (Huk-L), Friday, 9 September 2005 17:35 (twenty years ago)

Huk, I laugh at your jokes.

― nickalicious (nickalicious), Friday, 9 September 2005 17:36 (twenty years ago)

Besides Arrested D., the only other sitcom I watch is King of Q., which has also been moved to Monday. The networks are battling for my disposable income again.

― laurence kansas (lawrence kansas), Friday, 9 September 2005 17:38 (twenty years ago)

They should have a "Battle of the Network Executives" where the suits have kayak races in rivers of pudding!

― Huk-L (Huk-L), Friday, 9 September 2005 17:39 (twenty years ago)

TONIGHT TONIGHT TONIGHT yo.

7 PM central time, so uh 8 PM eastern time, and the rest of you are on your own.

― n/a (Nick A.), Monday, 19 September 2005 12:47 (twenty years ago)

the rest of us are on the internet

― RJG (RJG), Monday, 19 September 2005 12:51 (twenty years ago)

On your own.

― n/a (Nick A.), Monday, 19 September 2005 13:03 (twenty years ago)

yes

: (

― RJG (RJG), Monday, 19 September 2005 13:03 (twenty years ago)

scott baio!

― mark p (Mark P), Monday, 19 September 2005 13:10 (twenty years ago)

i wonder if i can catch a flight in time?

― stirmonster (stirmonster), Monday, 19 September 2005 13:58 (twenty years ago)

I can watch it twice! Once on Fox at 6 p.m., and then at 7 p.m. on Global! Ha ha ha hah hah ah ah.

― Huk-L (Huk-L), Monday, 19 September 2005 14:04 (twenty years ago)

I am counting down the hours until the premiere...until then...

http://www.bluthfamily.com/dimages/pictures/gob-dazzles-the-crowd-with-his-unique-brand-of-magic_468x312.jpg

― O'so Krispie (Ex Leon), Monday, 19 September 2005 14:05 (twenty years ago)

OMG APPARENTLY WILL ARNETT TOTALLY DISSED DESPERATE HOUSEWIVES ON THE EMMIES LAST NIGHT...

"Desperate Housewives is not a comedy. It's a soap opera that has a few funny moments in it."

― n/a (Nick A.), Monday, 19 September 2005 14:13 (twenty years ago)

He did? I didn't watched the Emmys. They're always boring and I knew AD was going to get dissed. At least Lost won for best drama.

― O'so Krispie (Ex Leon), Monday, 19 September 2005 14:14 (twenty years ago)

Well, Will Arnett (a Canadian) is right. DH only applied for the Comedy category so that they wouldn't have to go up against stuff like the Sopranos and Deadwood and stuff like that.

― Huk-L (Huk-L), Monday, 19 September 2005 14:16 (twenty years ago)

I didn't watch it either, it was in the lame Chi. Tribune tabloid that I read in the morning to wake up.

I have never watched Desperate Housewives. I am more pissed about Everybody Loves Raymond winning everything just because it's the last season.

― n/a (Nick A.), Monday, 19 September 2005 14:21 (twenty years ago)

I've never understood the appeal of that show (Raymond).

― Jordan (Jordan), Monday, 19 September 2005 14:22 (twenty years ago)

From an AP Emmy story: "Co-star Marcia Cross noted that just a couple of seasons ago, the show didn’t exist."

― Huk-L (Huk-L), Monday, 19 September 2005 14:29 (twenty years ago)

From the same story:
Not everyone was a fan, though.
“It’s great to be here on the brink of losing to Desperate Housewives,” Will Arnett of Arrested Development, which was nominated along with Housewives for best comedy series, said on the red carpet.
“Desperate Housewives is not a comedy,” he said. “It’s a soap opera that has a few funny moments in it.”

― Huk-L (Huk-L), Monday, 19 September 2005 14:31 (twenty years ago)

True dat. While I'm sad that AD didn't win for best comedy, I was sooo happy that Desperate Housewives didn't win either. They're like the Colorado Avalanche of television shows.

― O'so Krispie (Ex Leon), Monday, 19 September 2005 14:38 (twenty years ago)

Maybe this has been announced already, but the dvds of season two is released on oct 11!

― kelsey (kelstarry), Monday, 19 September 2005 15:59 (twenty years ago)

If we had to lose, I guess I'm glad it was to ELR instead of cheater cheater pumpkin eaters DH. Mitch Hurwitz got a writing Emmy for Righteous Bros which was one of my favorites this season (it was the season finale). He made a crack about how it was the 2nd time he'd been rewarded for something none of them were watching.

Jason Bateman and Jessica Walter were ROBBED.

― rocknrolldetox (rocknrolldetox), Monday, 19 September 2005 17:25 (twenty years ago)

And Jeffrey Tambour (if he was even nominated, and he should have been, dammit!).
But yeah, Jessica Walters really, really deserves some giant fucking award, because I love her.

― Huk-L (Huk-L), Monday, 19 September 2005 17:39 (twenty years ago)

Tambour was toally nominated.

― The Ghost of Black Elegance (Dan Perry), Monday, 19 September 2005 17:42 (twenty years ago)

I'm kind of used to him not winning. He's been nominated for Larry Sanders and AD and never won. It's really important that he win soon though so they can get on to nominating Will Arnett.

I forgot to mention that the best part of the Emmy was MH's win and the AD clip they showed. They ran Gob and Franklin recording their CD...it cut off right before "I got childrens all over town".

― rocknrolldetox (rocknrolldetox), Monday, 19 September 2005 17:53 (twenty years ago)

tambor

― RJG (RJG), Monday, 19 September 2005 17:55 (twenty years ago)

timbre

― The Ghost of Black Elegance (Dan Perry), Monday, 19 September 2005 18:00 (twenty years ago)

Hank.

― Huk-L (Huk-L), Monday, 19 September 2005 18:01 (twenty years ago)

Mr. Sunshine!
I remember really liking this, where Jeffrey Tambor played a blind teacher with a shitty attitude. And possibly a beard?

― Huk-L (Huk-L), Monday, 19 September 2005 18:09 (twenty years ago)

Yes, and a plaid suit! I can still recall the sartorial horror that was the yellow plaid suit he wore on that show.

― O'so Krispie (Ex Leon), Monday, 19 September 2005 18:11 (twenty years ago)

There's so much stuff from the last season that I'm really curious to see how they handle it this time around. It totally seemed like they assumed they were getting cancelled so they threw in as much ludicrous crap as possible. Buster losing his hand is something I'm especially excited about the possibilities for.

Though I wonder if Ron Howard will have to come in and explain it in flashback every time Tony Hale is on screen just so the casual viewer won't have to be like, "what's up with this dude and the fake hand?"

― Werner Herzog Eats His Shoe (Plastic Gas Booby Trap), Monday, 19 September 2005 18:24 (twenty years ago)

or the george michael/maeby kiss even. had they not feared cancellation, i wonder if they would have held off on that until later in the series, if at all. i'm not complaining, mind you. the comedic possibilities are endless with all of this stuff.

― Werner Herzog Eats His Shoe (Plastic Gas Booby Trap), Monday, 19 September 2005 18:30 (twenty years ago)

Yeah, in a way, Righteous Brothers would have been a fitting (if not completely satisfying) final episode.

― Huk-L (Huk-L), Monday, 19 September 2005 18:38 (twenty years ago)

The sporadic critical taste of Fox executives notwithstanding, Arrested Development's horrible showing, and near extinction, has proved that liberals' fantasy of an America squirming with class anger is as stale as Wings reruns. Or so it is claimed.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 19 September 2005 20:54 (twenty years ago)

what a weird article. he starts out by saying the class anger that arrested development ostensibly feeds on must not exist because nobody watched it, then goes on to talk about how the show's not fundamentally about class anyway, and that the bluths' money is just a setup for the jokes. uh, dude...?

― mark p (Mark P), Monday, 19 September 2005 21:09 (twenty years ago)

It's the National Review, of course it's a weird article! But it's a weird world. (One of their regulars on the blog they have is a feller named Warren Bell who writes for According to Jim, FWIW -- but they've all talked about Arrested Development with praise many a time, which I always found amusingly curious.)

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 19 September 2005 21:25 (twenty years ago)

http://209.8.31.218/images/episode/202/mission-accomplished_sm.jpg

― O'so Krispie (Ex Leon), Monday, 19 September 2005 21:30 (twenty years ago)

then goes on to talk about how the show's not fundamentally about class anyway, and that the bluths' money is just a setup for the jokes.

and he's right about that!

― Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Monday, 19 September 2005 21:33 (twenty years ago)

if you take both sides you're bound to be right at least once.

― mark p (Mark P), Monday, 19 September 2005 21:37 (twenty years ago)

It's probably very wrong of me to find Susan Smith jokes so funny.

― Pleasant Plains /// (Pleasant Plains ///), Monday, 19 September 2005 23:28 (twenty years ago)

Great opening episode! Except for that first scene.

― Michael F Gill (Michael F Gill), Monday, 19 September 2005 23:28 (twenty years ago)

STEVE HOLT

― adam (adam), Monday, 19 September 2005 23:35 (twenty years ago)

they're actually NOT explaining alot of shit, which is fantastic - did anybody catch George Michael referencing sex as "pop-pop" again? obv. if you hadn't seen that episode you'd have no idea.

and the STEVE HOLT tie-in was priceless.

― Josh Love (screamapillar), Monday, 19 September 2005 23:44 (twenty years ago)

Yeah, I noticed how much wasn't obvious by the puzzled reactions of my roommate, who only saw a couple of the episodes from season 2.

I love that Steve's mom's name was EVE HOLT!

― Matthew C Perpetua (inca), Monday, 19 September 2005 23:46 (twenty years ago)

that episode was fucking amazing.

http://www.imoscar.com

― cutty (mcutt), Monday, 19 September 2005 23:50 (twenty years ago)

yeah, i wasn't even considering whether or not that revelation/plotline would even be funny to someone who didn't know who steve holt was since all i could think was: "holy shit."

― Werner Herzog Eats His Shoe (Plastic Gas Booby Trap), Monday, 19 September 2005 23:53 (twenty years ago)

i thought it took a *little* bit of time to find its feet - the first scene felt a little off - but it definitely picked up steam and was back to its old self by the end.

― PeopleFunnyBoy (PeopleFunnyBoy), Tuesday, 20 September 2005 00:00 (twenty years ago)

I'm Oscar only has 42 hits?

― Michael F Gill (Michael F Gill), Tuesday, 20 September 2005 00:10 (twenty years ago)

Yeah, what is up with that first scene?

(or: the microanalysis starts here)

― Michael F Gill (Michael F Gill), Tuesday, 20 September 2005 00:19 (twenty years ago)

who's steve holt?

the "he came!" statue joke was hilarious.

― s1ocki (slutsky), Tuesday, 20 September 2005 00:24 (twenty years ago)

steve holt is the kid in the football jacket, he's been around since season one.

what was wrong with the first scene?

― cutty (mcutt), Tuesday, 20 September 2005 00:30 (twenty years ago)

“Bitch no more”

Ceremonious
Mister rapist be wary
I been working out

Ah, it's the little things.

― Josh Love (screamapillar), Tuesday, 20 September 2005 00:30 (twenty years ago)

steve holt has been a recurring (minor) character since the first season. initially, he was just a dude maeby thought was hot at school and who popped up throughout one episode.

then in the second season he came back in a plotline where lindsay was having an open relationship with tobias and she tried to go after him even though he was in high school.

also, i'd say about half of the dialogue the character's ever said is him yelling his own name to accentuate how awesome he is. eg. "STEVE HOLT!"

― Werner Herzog Eats His Shoe (Plastic Gas Booby Trap), Tuesday, 20 September 2005 00:33 (twenty years ago)

the use of double meaning hilarity in this show is totally virtuosic.

(xp: oh yeah!! that guy!)

― s1ocki (slutsky), Tuesday, 20 September 2005 00:34 (twenty years ago)

yeah, i've often wondered if people might be turned off by that because it might seem a little *too* clever for it's own good. but half the time you won't even catch some of it until you rewatch an episode so it never really feels cutesy. either way, i love it.

also, that "volvo/vulva" line cracked me up.

― Werner Herzog Eats His Shoe (Plastic Gas Booby Trap), Tuesday, 20 September 2005 00:39 (twenty years ago)

It's probably very wrong of me to find Susan Smith jokes so funny.

I loved them! This whole episode was so great.

― O'so Krispie (Ex Leon), Tuesday, 20 September 2005 00:40 (twenty years ago)

you won't catch half of the jokes unless you've seen every episode.

― cutty (mcutt), Tuesday, 20 September 2005 00:41 (twenty years ago)

Michael: Maybe you could bring a date!
Lucille: Are you kidding? How could I get anyone inside that musty old claptrap?
Michael: (Long pause) Oh, the cabin.

Also, I didn't even realize the joke at the end, with Maebe making out with another of her cousins.

― Michael F Gill (Michael F Gill), Tuesday, 20 September 2005 00:46 (twenty years ago)

this episode probably had about 1000 jokes in it...

― cutty (mcutt), Tuesday, 20 September 2005 00:50 (twenty years ago)

OK, I'll get this out of the way now: this is easily my favorite show on TV these days, but I am extremely concerned about the upcoming Charlize Theron subplot -- and the 15-second teaser at the tail end didn't do a whole lot to convince me that this wasn't crossing some sort of line. Thoughts?

― PeopleFunnyBoy (PeopleFunnyBoy), Tuesday, 20 September 2005 00:56 (twenty years ago)

this site sure is quick on the rebound as far as transcripts go:

http://the-op.com/

(thanks to cutty upthread)

― Werner Herzog Eats His Shoe (Plastic Gas Booby Trap), Tuesday, 20 September 2005 02:18 (twenty years ago)

side note for anyone who watched (or watched part of it, in my case) kicthen confidential afterwards, was that "new guy" dude the kid from fucking freaks and geeks? because if so, that's crazy.

― Werner Herzog Eats His Shoe (Plastic Gas Booby Trap), Tuesday, 20 September 2005 02:24 (twenty years ago)

yeah, the kid from freaks and geeks, a guy from alias, a guy from buffy. didn't seem like a good show, but it was only on in the background.

i've only caught arrested development here adn there, but it's hilarious--i should probably rent the first season on dvd so i can keep straight who is who and get more of these jokes...

― Juulia (julesbdules), Tuesday, 20 September 2005 02:31 (twenty years ago)

"it was the biggest little mistake of my life"

― Sym Sym (sym), Tuesday, 20 September 2005 02:34 (twenty years ago)

yeah, it didn't really hold my attention. i just noticed that in the first couple minutes of the show. that's wild that that kid grew up so fast. but i guess it's been awhile since that show was on the air.

but, yeah, you should definitely rent the first season. a lot more jokes will make sense after you've checked all that out.

and to PeopleFunnyBoy, yeah, that does seem a little concerning about the charlize theron thing. but, at the same time, when i'm anticipating scott baio being on the show, you know something's off about my excitement about guest stars.

― Werner Herzog Eats His Shoe (Plastic Gas Booby Trap), Tuesday, 20 September 2005 02:39 (twenty years ago)

i'm looking forward to the charlize theron arc!! why would they go wrong with it when they've gone so very right with guest stars before?

― s1ocki (slutsky), Tuesday, 20 September 2005 02:42 (twenty years ago)

right, it's very conceiveable that she's some incredible comic actress. like i said before, jason bateman certainly is the last guy i'd think of when it comes to making me laugh, but there he is being pitch perfect. so who knows? i just hope/assume it'll be great based on all the previous evidence.

― Werner Herzog Eats His Shoe (Plastic Gas Booby Trap), Tuesday, 20 September 2005 02:47 (twenty years ago)

"i've made a tiny huge mistake"

― cutty (mcutt), Tuesday, 20 September 2005 02:50 (twenty years ago)

"Come make the biggest tiny mistake of your life"

― Michael F Gill (Michael F Gill), Tuesday, 20 September 2005 02:52 (twenty years ago)

i think i'm the only one who didn't like this episode!

― mark p (Mark P), Tuesday, 20 September 2005 03:39 (twenty years ago)

W-W-WHAT!?

― cutty (mcutt), Tuesday, 20 September 2005 03:47 (twenty years ago)

I missed it. Will there be a repeat?

― Mary (Mary), Tuesday, 20 September 2005 04:01 (twenty years ago)

I watched it but can't even remember the (apparently controversial) opening scene...
Anyway, yeah - excellent epiosde...
I loved the callback to the use of the term "Pop-Pop" to refer to both George Bluth and sex.

Michael: "I almost had Pop-Pop in Reno..."
George Michael: (wistfully): "Me too..."

― is bean cobian jojo (Bent Over at the Arclight), Tuesday, 20 September 2005 04:24 (twenty years ago)

"Kitchen Confidential" veers between mildly amusing and amazingly predictable bullshit. The bit where the British bad boy got his finger chopped off was great, though.

― The Ghost of Black Elegance (Dan Perry), Tuesday, 20 September 2005 04:44 (twenty years ago)

The first scene just dragged and dragged. Not very funny. It was easy to imagine the lines in the script as the two actors went through the motions.

It did go uphill from there.

― Pleasant Plains /// (Pleasant Plains ///), Tuesday, 20 September 2005 04:50 (twenty years ago)

the thing that concerns me about the Charlize Theron arc is that the character she's playing is mentally challenged. and while I have no problem with, say, Susan Smith jokes, something about playing that for laughs has me a little concerned (the 15-second tease of next week didn't do much to allay those fears).

― PeopleFunnyBoy (PeopleFunnyBoy), Tuesday, 20 September 2005 10:03 (twenty years ago)

..and i mean the real 15-second tease that FOX tacked on, not the classic "On The Next..."

― PeopleFunnyBoy (PeopleFunnyBoy), Tuesday, 20 September 2005 10:05 (twenty years ago)

Grease monkeys--what kind of car did Steve Holt and Gob pull up to the hotel in?

― Keith C (lync0), Tuesday, 20 September 2005 11:57 (twenty years ago)

I think I laughed the hardest at "I am Oscar...dot com!" but the final scene of the "Next week on Arrested Development..." with Tobias (as a woman) kissing Henry Winkler (as a Blue Man) was a KILLER.

― n/a (Nick A.), Tuesday, 20 September 2005 13:01 (twenty years ago)

omg, totally.

― s1ocki (slutsky), Tuesday, 20 September 2005 13:45 (twenty years ago)

i literally LOL'd at the "DOT COM"

― cutty (mcutt), Tuesday, 20 September 2005 13:46 (twenty years ago)

"Mission Accomplished"

― earlnash, Tuesday, 20 September 2005 13:48 (twenty years ago)

YES. I Am still laughing. I haven't stopped laughing. "That'll be $20."

― Huk-L (Huk-L), Tuesday, 20 September 2005 13:52 (twenty years ago)

$50, you fraud of an AD fan! Or did they change it to CANADIAN DOLLARS for your showing?

― n/a (Nick A.), Tuesday, 20 September 2005 13:56 (twenty years ago)

ok i watched this again this morning and laughed a LOT more, guess it wasn't a good idea to screen it at 2am after writing two stories last night. i hereby rescind my comment above.

― mark p (Mark P), Tuesday, 20 September 2005 14:02 (twenty years ago)

12am.

― mark p (Mark P), Tuesday, 20 September 2005 14:03 (twenty years ago)

whatever. I wasn't paying PERFECT ATTENTION, and I had a shitload of stuff to do AFTER the show (though I did watch the TERRIBLE, TERRIBLE first ten minutes of K.C.).

― Huk-L (Huk-L), Tuesday, 20 September 2005 14:18 (twenty years ago)

It was poor. Will Tippin and Xander's sidekick powers cancelled each other out.

― O'so Krispie (Ex Leon), Tuesday, 20 September 2005 14:44 (twenty years ago)

Seriously, the best scene of the show was when dude got his finger cut off and kept spraying blood all over everyone!

― The Ghost of Black Elegance (Dan Perry), Tuesday, 20 September 2005 14:49 (twenty years ago)

That's like saying one particular post by Static Electricity is the best on the "I Just Made a Man Redundant" thread.

― O'so Krispie (Ex Leon), Tuesday, 20 September 2005 14:51 (twenty years ago)

the best line is when Michael is asking George Michael about his girl problems, what was George Michael's respond "It's a question that doesn't have a definate answer" or something, i.e. Maeby.

― Dan Selzer (Dan Selzer), Tuesday, 20 September 2005 15:07 (twenty years ago)

also, I was affraid that with the new night and even earlier time they were going to tone things down, but this episode was filled with as much or more totally over the top sexual innuendo as any. I swear if fox or whomever really paid attention to what they were implying...

but nothing will ever beat "talk you off what, pop pop?" when George thought he was callling Kitty but got George Michael.

― Dan Selzer (Dan Selzer), Tuesday, 20 September 2005 15:14 (twenty years ago)

I can't believe this is only just occuring to me now, but I just recalled the episode from last season where George Michael runs against Steve Holt for student body president and G.O.B. tries to help him out by my making a scathing campaign video about SH in which he says stuff along the lines of "Steve Holt is a bastard, he doesn't even know who his real father is."

I'd love to think that they had that plotline already thought out, but from what I've heard from mitch hurwitz about the writing process on the show, I'm sure they just came up with it after the fact. Even so, that makes the G.O.B.-being-his-father angle a lot funnier.

― Werner Herzog Eats His Shoe (Plastic Gas Booby Trap), Tuesday, 20 September 2005 15:16 (twenty years ago)

" "It's a question that doesn't have a definate answer" or something, i.e. Maeby. "

I didn't even get that!

― is bean cobian jojo (Bent Over at the Arclight), Tuesday, 20 September 2005 15:18 (twenty years ago)

They played the G.O.B. is Steve Holt's father angle in that episode! They at the very least, intimated that GOB was SH's dad.

xpost neither did I. That's what second viewings are for!

― Huk-L (Huk-L), Tuesday, 20 September 2005 15:20 (twenty years ago)

I was impressed by how much GOB got laid in high school.

Oh, and was Lindsay's ringtone the show's theme song?

― is bean cobian jojo (Bent Over at the Arclight), Tuesday, 20 September 2005 15:21 (twenty years ago)

yeah i thought the gob/steve holt connection was all but established in season two. i like how they drop those bombs very casually and pick them up in later episodes. wonder how they'll resolve maeby's backstory...

(xpost yes)

― mark p (Mark P), Tuesday, 20 September 2005 15:24 (twenty years ago)

some fun stuff here:
http://the-op.com/episode/301

― mark p (Mark P), Tuesday, 20 September 2005 15:24 (twenty years ago)

The episode was pretty boring last night. The preview for next week was funnier than the whole episode. Hopefully yesterday was just set-up material.

― polyphonic (polyphonic), Tuesday, 20 September 2005 15:24 (twenty years ago)

G.O.B.’s yearbook entry under “Hopes to One Day” says “Go camping with my dad.”

― mark p (Mark P), Tuesday, 20 September 2005 15:25 (twenty years ago)

The letter from S.A.D. reads in part: “Congratulations, you’ve been contacted for a father-son reunion... at the S.A.D. center on the corner of Hyde and No. Hope.”

― mark p (Mark P), Tuesday, 20 September 2005 15:25 (twenty years ago)

"look dad, i found a severed hand!"

― s1ocki (slutsky), Tuesday, 20 September 2005 15:26 (twenty years ago)

I love Ron Howard's narration: "Remember when I said Gob had a son?"

― n/a (Nick A.), Tuesday, 20 September 2005 15:28 (twenty years ago)

hey do we know what character old charlize theron is gonna play? it'd be sweet if she was eve holt, for so many reasons.

― mark p (Mark P), Tuesday, 20 September 2005 15:30 (twenty years ago)

the extended silence after Lucille's claptrap comment was awesome. They kept it going for so long!

― Huk-L (Huk-L), Tuesday, 20 September 2005 15:30 (twenty years ago)

I think Charlize Theron might play a trashy blonde that is, according to Lindsay, Tobias's "type."

― Huk-L (Huk-L), Tuesday, 20 September 2005 15:33 (twenty years ago)

THE VOLVO IS TOO BOXY!

― Huk-L (Huk-L), Tuesday, 20 September 2005 15:41 (twenty years ago)

The visitor 42 is a ref. to Hitchhiker's guide to the galaxy.

Dot com!

Is Charlize Theron's character supposed to be mentally challenged? All I had heard was that she LOOKED mc in the pics, but I never read it anywhere. I have faith in the show that they'll use her correctly. I've heard that she was very good on SNL.

I never thought I'd find vagina jokes so funny.

― rocknrolldetox (rocknrolldetox), Tuesday, 20 September 2005 15:44 (twenty years ago)

hey do we know what character old charlize theron is gonna play?

it's already been leaked. she's going to play a mentally-challenged person that michael starts dating. for realz. i have some concerns, but will extend the benefit of the doubt.

xpost

― PeopleFunnyBoy (PeopleFunnyBoy), Tuesday, 20 September 2005 15:44 (twenty years ago)

Maybe she's just pretending to be mentally-challenged because she's a trial lawyer and it helps her win juries' sympathies?

― Huk-L (Huk-L), Tuesday, 20 September 2005 15:47 (twenty years ago)

actually, that very thought had crossed my mind.

― PeopleFunnyBoy (PeopleFunnyBoy), Tuesday, 20 September 2005 15:48 (twenty years ago)

or that it was all going to be some elaborate plot to entrap michael.

― PeopleFunnyBoy (PeopleFunnyBoy), Tuesday, 20 September 2005 15:48 (twenty years ago)

she's going to play a mentally-challenged person that michael starts dating.

there's no reason this couldn't be eve holt! especially since a) steve is not particularly bright and b) it would build on the theme of michael dating gob's ladies.

― mark p (Mark P), Tuesday, 20 September 2005 15:55 (twenty years ago)

i wonder if anyong will turn up this season.

― mark p (Mark P), Tuesday, 20 September 2005 15:57 (twenty years ago)

Maybe they should hire Gene Parmesan to find him!

― Huk-L (Huk-L), Tuesday, 20 September 2005 15:59 (twenty years ago)

They already showed a picture of the (younger) Eve Holt - did it look like Theron?

― n/a (Nick A.), Tuesday, 20 September 2005 15:59 (twenty years ago)

the-op.com has a screen-capture of the yearbook.

― Huk-L (Huk-L), Tuesday, 20 September 2005 16:01 (twenty years ago)

SPOILER

apparently theron will play a british and will debut in the very next episode.

photo:
photos1.blogger.com/img/105/5037/1024/charlize-arrested-development.jpg

― mark p (Mark P), Tuesday, 20 September 2005 16:06 (twenty years ago)

i can already tell from that picture that she is going to be hilarious.

― s1ocki (slutsky), Tuesday, 20 September 2005 16:07 (twenty years ago)

i guess the hook will be that she is insanely beautiful and also retarded. wow.

― mark p (Mark P), Tuesday, 20 September 2005 16:08 (twenty years ago)

apparently theron will play a british and will debut in the very next episode.

Maybe that's what they meant by mentally challenged?

― O'so Krispie (Ex Leon), Tuesday, 20 September 2005 16:11 (twenty years ago)

zing!

― PeopleFunnyBoy (PeopleFunnyBoy), Tuesday, 20 September 2005 16:15 (twenty years ago)

overnights have it finishing 4th, with a 4.0/6 (4 1/2 million viewers). not good.

― PeopleFunnyBoy (PeopleFunnyBoy), Tuesday, 20 September 2005 16:50 (twenty years ago)

What the hell else was on?

― Huk-L (Huk-L), Tuesday, 20 September 2005 16:52 (twenty years ago)

It finished waaay behind the 4 major networks -- ABC won with monday night football, then came CBS (King of Queens) and NBC (Surface).

― PeopleFunnyBoy (PeopleFunnyBoy), Tuesday, 20 September 2005 16:57 (twenty years ago)

This was the first season I felt like Fox really plugged the hell out of it, too.

― PeopleFunnyBoy (PeopleFunnyBoy), Tuesday, 20 September 2005 16:57 (twenty years ago)

there's gotta be a better way to say that.

― mark p (Mark P), Tuesday, 20 September 2005 16:59 (twenty years ago)

Football, I can understand. Surface, I don't even know what that is, probably some spooky Lost-ish drama jerk-off. But King of Fucking Queens? That show's still on? I like Patton Oswalt, but NOT THAT MUCH.

― Huk-L (Huk-L), Tuesday, 20 September 2005 17:02 (twenty years ago)

I avoided the kitchen show, but it's clear fox is aiming for a different audience then the sunday night comedy line-up. And they put these two shows leading into prisonbreak, which means they at least believe in this monday night line-up as opposed to sticking the show somewhere that it'd disappear. I suppose they have a lot of expectations for Theron to bring in new viewers.

― Dan Selzer (Dan Selzer), Tuesday, 20 September 2005 17:03 (twenty years ago)

Not in that hat, she won't!

― Huk-L (Huk-L), Tuesday, 20 September 2005 17:04 (twenty years ago)

I'm reasonably certain Fox knew that they were going to get clobbered by the Monday night competition, and are just putting the shows there so they can a) attract a specific demographic b) rack up episodes for dvd/syndication c) attract more awards glory at a later date.

― Matthew C Perpetua (inca), Tuesday, 20 September 2005 18:36 (twenty years ago)

The show will never be huge, but it could be hugely profitable.

― Matthew C Perpetua (inca), Tuesday, 20 September 2005 18:37 (twenty years ago)

It does sell way more dvds than a show like King of Queens.

― O'so Krispie (Ex Leon), Tuesday, 20 September 2005 18:38 (twenty years ago)

Who watches King of Queens?

― Huk-L (Huk-L), Tuesday, 20 September 2005 18:39 (twenty years ago)

My parents.

― O'so Krispie (Ex Leon), Tuesday, 20 September 2005 18:42 (twenty years ago)

Where did we go wrong with them?

― Huk-L (Huk-L), Tuesday, 20 September 2005 18:43 (twenty years ago)

I watch King of Queens!

― laurence kansas (lawrence kansas), Tuesday, 20 September 2005 18:50 (twenty years ago)

or used to now that's on the same time as AD.

― laurence kansas (lawrence kansas), Tuesday, 20 September 2005 18:51 (twenty years ago)

Hey, did Buster ever get out of the car?

― Huk-L (Huk-L), Tuesday, 20 September 2005 18:52 (twenty years ago)

Buster stayed in the car, which is going to develop into a plot strand I don't want to spoil here.

― PeopleFunnyBoy (PeopleFunnyBoy), Tuesday, 20 September 2005 19:51 (twenty years ago)

OMG HE SPENDS THE ENTIRE THIRD SEASON UNDERWATER?!?!?!?!

― n/a (Nick A.), Tuesday, 20 September 2005 19:55 (twenty years ago)

He becomes a merman!

― O'so Krispie (Ex Leon), Tuesday, 20 September 2005 19:56 (twenty years ago)

Please please please Buster dies, but his GHOST will haunt Lucille, and only she will be able to see him, which will make everyone assume she's lost her mind (since she's off medication), OR she'll be charged with his murder and Chachi will defend her using Post-Partum defence!
I like Buster, but I would equally like him as a ghost.

― Huk-L (Huk-L), Tuesday, 20 September 2005 19:56 (twenty years ago)

maybe buster finally discovers that the blue is not, in fact, land.

― mark p (Mark P), Tuesday, 20 September 2005 19:58 (twenty years ago)

I hated Buster for a while but he has grown on me, especially with this insane HOOK FOR A HAND thing. I also say "Heeeeeeey brother" at least once a day (note: frequency of said quote may have been exagerrated for narrative purposes).

― n/a (Nick A.), Tuesday, 20 September 2005 19:58 (twenty years ago)

haha me and my brother do that all the time.

― mark p (Mark P), Tuesday, 20 September 2005 20:01 (twenty years ago)

i mean, hermano.

― mark p (Mark P), Tuesday, 20 September 2005 20:01 (twenty years ago)

My brother and I do that all the time, too!
Does N/A even have a brother?

― Huk-L (Huk-L), Tuesday, 20 September 2005 20:03 (twenty years ago)

what's the protocol for posting spoilers on a thread like this?

― PeopleFunnyBoy (PeopleFunnyBoy), Tuesday, 20 September 2005 20:03 (twenty years ago)

Please don't.

― O'so Krispie (Ex Leon), Tuesday, 20 September 2005 20:04 (twenty years ago)

Yeah, Arrested Development is one of the few things in life about which I enjoy not know what's going to happen next.

― Huk-L (Huk-L), Tuesday, 20 September 2005 20:07 (twenty years ago)

Also, English Language I enjoy not know how use.

― Huk-L (Huk-L), Tuesday, 20 September 2005 20:07 (twenty years ago)

http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b54/mateo1991/father-love-me-smaller.gif

― mark p (Mark P), Tuesday, 20 September 2005 20:10 (twenty years ago)

no problem -- thats why i asked first.

― PeopleFunnyBoy (PeopleFunnyBoy), Tuesday, 20 September 2005 20:11 (twenty years ago)

Nick doesn't have a brother, but he says it anyway.

― Kittens Licking Cakes (coco), Tuesday, 20 September 2005 20:18 (twenty years ago)

I just say it to Sarah or to one of our cats (both of which are female) or to no one in particular.

― n/a (Nick A.), Tuesday, 20 September 2005 20:28 (twenty years ago)

you didn't like buster? i don't know why this surprises me. wait. maybe we've talked about this already.

― kelsey (kelstarry), Tuesday, 20 September 2005 20:32 (twenty years ago)

You can say it to me, Nick. I'm here for you.

― Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Tuesday, 20 September 2005 20:34 (twenty years ago)

But I like him now!

― n/a (Nick A.), Tuesday, 20 September 2005 20:34 (twenty years ago)

xpost

Heeeeeeeey, Kenan.

― n/a (Nick A.), Tuesday, 20 September 2005 20:34 (twenty years ago)

i'm glad you do. i love him.

― kelsey (kelstarry), Tuesday, 20 September 2005 20:35 (twenty years ago)

Buster is great. Especially when he gets all giggly, like when he discovers the crane machine.

I rewatched the first 11 or so eps of season 2 last night on a Shoutcast stream. (A good four hours worth, anyway.) I had forgotten how many "clues" there were about Buster's hand. (re: the hand chair - "I never thought I'd miss a hand so much!")

― Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Tuesday, 20 September 2005 20:37 (twenty years ago)

I actually didn't like Gob at all for the first couple of episodes! I don't know what I was thinking! I must have been INSANE.

"Chicken fingers...with club sauce."

― n/a (Nick A.), Tuesday, 20 September 2005 20:38 (twenty years ago)

I also had to warm up to GOB

― kelsey (kelstarry), Tuesday, 20 September 2005 20:41 (twenty years ago)

Usually there is no warming up to GOB. But he is wearing a $7000 suit.

― Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Tuesday, 20 September 2005 20:49 (twenty years ago)

C'MON!

I just recently watched the ep where he breaks his tooth on the candy apple. Hilarious.

― rocknrolldetox (rocknrolldetox), Tuesday, 20 September 2005 20:56 (twenty years ago)

I liked GOB talking about "that kid who found the severed hand" after last season's attempt to track down Buster's hand.

― Brian Miller (Brian Miller), Tuesday, 20 September 2005 21:04 (twenty years ago)

OK first episode

some good bits

not wildly funny

― RJG (RJG), Tuesday, 20 September 2005 21:28 (twenty years ago)

Did anyone go to www.imoscar.com? You'll want to.

― Chris L, Wednesday, 21 September 2005 00:13 (twenty years ago)

― s1ocki (slutsky), Wednesday, 21 September 2005 00:17 (twenty years ago)

read the thread, fucktard

― cutty (mcutt), Wednesday, 21 September 2005 00:18 (twenty years ago)

I'm in the middle of another Shoutcast marathon. I think I started with episode 7 of the first season, and I've made it up to 14. Favorite ep so far: Pier Pressure.

read the thread, fucktard

wow.

― Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Wednesday, 21 September 2005 00:20 (twenty years ago)

was that directed at me cutty?!

― s1ocki (slutsky), Wednesday, 21 September 2005 00:20 (twenty years ago)

Yeah, I missed two sterling sentences. Worth it for the "fucktard" thing.

― Chris L, Wednesday, 21 September 2005 00:21 (twenty years ago)

i would never do such a thing s1ocki!

― cutty (mcutt), Wednesday, 21 September 2005 00:23 (twenty years ago)

phew!!

― s1ocki (slutsky), Wednesday, 21 September 2005 00:24 (twenty years ago)

Yeah, otherguys you two would end up shreiking and pulling each others' hair.

― Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Wednesday, 21 September 2005 00:25 (twenty years ago)

otherWISE

oh, fuck it.

― Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Wednesday, 21 September 2005 00:26 (twenty years ago)

please.

― s1ocki (slutsky), Wednesday, 21 September 2005 00:26 (twenty years ago)

otherbros

― cutty (mcutt), Wednesday, 21 September 2005 00:29 (twenty years ago)

"otherguys" is pretty funny though!

― s1ocki (slutsky), Wednesday, 21 September 2005 00:45 (twenty years ago)

yeah, that was some typo.

― Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Wednesday, 21 September 2005 01:16 (twenty years ago)

Did y'all know that www.imoscar.com is a REAL WEBSITE? It's like that thing they did with the Haley Joel Robot movie.

― Pleasant Plains /// (Pleasant Plains ///), Wednesday, 21 September 2005 02:48 (twenty years ago)

haaaaaaaaaaa

― cutty (mcutt), Wednesday, 21 September 2005 02:56 (twenty years ago)

So am I the only one who thought Season 2 was a real step down from Season 1?

― The Yellow Kid, Wednesday, 21 September 2005 04:05 (twenty years ago)

That's overstating, but season 1 is the best, yes.

― Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Wednesday, 21 September 2005 04:07 (twenty years ago)

It's 2 AM and for some reason Fox showed an episode of "Yes, Dear" that had Will Arnett on it. Pre-AD, it was odd to see him so subdued.

― Michael F Gill (Michael F Gill), Wednesday, 21 September 2005 05:31 (twenty years ago)

Punchy: I'm in the middle of another Shoutcast marathon. I think I started with episode 7 of the first season, and I've made it up to 14. Favorite ep so far: Pier Pressure.

Where did you find said shoutcast stream?

― tylero (tylero), Wednesday, 21 September 2005 05:46 (twenty years ago)

God, I just remembered the line about Lucille watching the "Dr." on the "Today" show giving medical advice about the dangers of using medication to treat depression!

"That was Tom Cruise, mom."

"I think they said he was some kind of scientist."

This episode is kind of a grower. But stick it out, nonbelievers.

― is bean cobian jojo (Bent Over at the Arclight), Wednesday, 21 September 2005 07:27 (twenty years ago)

I think the second season was much better, than the first

― RJG (RJG), Wednesday, 21 September 2005 09:33 (twenty years ago)

I think the second season was much better, than the first

Yes, this is the only opinion that makes any sort of sense.

― O'so Krispie (Ex Leon), Wednesday, 21 September 2005 12:24 (twenty years ago)

I watched an episode of Will & Grace once because it had Will Arnett on it. And also Janet Jackson. But mostly Will Arnett. He's Canadian you know. Like me.

― Huk-L (Huk-L), Wednesday, 21 September 2005 14:01 (twenty years ago)

I keep hoping I'll come across that episode of Law & Order:SVU where he plays a paedo, I heard it is very creepy.

― O'so Krispie (Ex Leon), Wednesday, 21 September 2005 14:04 (twenty years ago)

I found both the first two seasons spotty. In the first season there's a noticeable thing where the first few episodes are brilliant then they were like "wait, you mean we get to make more now?" and they got a bunch of different writers/directors and on the second DVD of season 1 it slips a bit, then picks back up near the end. Likewise in season 2 there were some episodes in the middle that while crucial for plot developement and always enjoyable for the characters and actors, just weren't as funny. But still, I'd rather watch the worst Arrested Developement then the best of most other shows.

― Dan Selzer (Dan Selzer), Wednesday, 21 September 2005 14:05 (twenty years ago)

I hope he played it as a paedo with a broken tooth. That would be awesome.

xpost

― Huk-L (Huk-L), Wednesday, 21 September 2005 14:05 (twenty years ago)

I saw that Will & Grace, it was pretty funny.

― n/a (Nick A.), Wednesday, 21 September 2005 14:10 (twenty years ago)

I think Dan is correct about the pattern of the first two seasons - they always seem to dump the weaker episodes in the middle of the run. And by weak, I don't mean bad. All 41 so far have pretty much ruled.

― Matthew C Perpetua (inca), Wednesday, 21 September 2005 16:49 (twenty years ago)

Will Arnett was on Sex And The City too. I think it was in the third season or so. He played a one-episode love interest for Miranda.

― Matthew C Perpetua (inca), Wednesday, 21 September 2005 16:51 (twenty years ago)

He was also in a low-budget movie called The Waiting Game that I took out from the library once and never watched.

― Huk-L (Huk-L), Wednesday, 21 September 2005 16:55 (twenty years ago)

Will Arnett & Amy Poehler, funniest couple ever? Actually, I've seen Amy on some talk-shows and she doesn't seem that funny. She didn't seem to be all about cracking quick jokes and the like. I attribute her talent to being one hell of a comedic actor. And watching SNL proves that she's way beyond everyone else.

I don't even mean so much that they dump the episodes in the middle, but from what I've read about television writing, you write a pilot, if they pick it up they say "give us 6 more" or whatever. Maybe you produce those 6 thinking you're going to be dumped because nobody's watching then near the end when the studio is like, ok we need 6 more asap, then you have to hustle.

― Dan Selzer (Dan Selzer), Wednesday, 21 September 2005 17:11 (twenty years ago)

I hope that Arrested Development gets like Homicide: Life On the Street was in its middle seasons where everybody was sure they were going to be cancelled at any minute, so basically they wrote each episode as if it might be the one they wanted to be remembered for (including one where the regular cast took a backseat to BRUNO KIRBY!).

― Huk-L (Huk-L), Wednesday, 21 September 2005 17:14 (twenty years ago)

i think quality is as consistent, episode-to-episode, as a comedy show can pretty much be; i can't think of any laff-based program, even the best, where ALL of the jokes land. esp a show like AD which is so packed with gags--they're not all going to be keepers.

― s1ocki (slutsky), Wednesday, 21 September 2005 17:26 (twenty years ago)

I would welcome a brief Kirby injection into an AD ep, for sure.

― is bean cobian jojo (Bent Over at the Arclight), Wednesday, 21 September 2005 18:12 (twenty years ago)

I remember when Bruno Kirby was on Columbo. He must have been about 12. He was sooo cute. I want to pinch his cheeks. He played a military school kid. Maybe he was 15. Maybe he was 29, he's so youthful looking.

― Huk-L (Huk-L), Wednesday, 21 September 2005 18:45 (twenty years ago)

Where did you find said shoutcast stream?

Winamp media library. You can watch Lost there, too.

― Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Wednesday, 21 September 2005 18:50 (twenty years ago)

so basically they wrote each episode as if it might be the one they wanted to be remembered for

I definitely got that impression from the final few episodes of the last two seasons, but since they are in a more comfortable situation now, I wonder if that won't be so much the case in this new season.

― Matthew C Perpetua (inca), Wednesday, 21 September 2005 21:17 (twenty years ago)

I am still amazed how many jokes they can fit in one episodes.

My favorite tonight - Michael saying to George Sr "Yeah you're a regular Brad Garrett"

― Michael F Gill (Michael F Gill), Monday, 26 September 2005 23:32 (twenty years ago)

Also, changing the intro to "On the Previous Arrested Development," C/D?

― Michael F Gill (Michael F Gill), Monday, 26 September 2005 23:43 (twenty years ago)

well that's obv not to alienate new viewers. anyway, there were scenes in there NOT from the previous episode. so there.

― cutty (mcutt), Monday, 26 September 2005 23:45 (twenty years ago)

Chicken dance attack!

and

The maid's reaction to Tobia's plugs "Mr Gay is dying!"

Hilarious!

― rocknrolldetox (rocknrolldetox), Monday, 26 September 2005 23:47 (twenty years ago)

tone still weird this season - can't figure out why.

― PeopleFunnyBoy (PeopleFunnyBoy), Monday, 26 September 2005 23:53 (twenty years ago)

The parts with Tobias were great too:

"Yes, this is the place where all the big T-V's come"

"I can taste those meaty man parts in my mouth!"

And then Gob saying "No, my heart is hard" after comparing love to an erection.

so subtly lewd!

― Michael F Gill (Michael F Gill), Tuesday, 27 September 2005 00:01 (twenty years ago)

Oh my God, this was easily one of the five best episodes of the series thus far.

― Matthew C Perpetua (inca), Tuesday, 27 September 2005 00:08 (twenty years ago)

I thought tonight was funnier than last Monday!!!

― kelsey (kelstarry), Tuesday, 27 September 2005 00:33 (twenty years ago)

I thought tonight's started off really strong, felt like "best episode ever!!" material, but really dropped off in the second half.

― Ross Godfrey (scatter), Tuesday, 27 September 2005 00:39 (twenty years ago)

wow i really didn't dig tonight's. not bad, but felt flat to me, especially the second half. and that final shot was poorly done. still some great moments tho...

― Jams Murphy (ystrickler), Tuesday, 27 September 2005 00:54 (twenty years ago)

this show just makes life better.

i can't believe no one mentioned Ron Howard (voice-over) apologizing to Andy Griffith over and over. HILARIOUS.

― JD from CDepot, Tuesday, 27 September 2005 01:00 (twenty years ago)

man, maybe it was just me, but most of this episode felt really forced.

― PeopleFunnyBoy (PeopleFunnyBoy), Tuesday, 27 September 2005 01:03 (twenty years ago)

But the bleeding hair plugs! And the chicken mask! And the smelly rubber hand! ("I'm running this through again on Pots and Pans.") Oh, the physical gag humour alone won me over.

― rrrobyn (rrrobyn), Tuesday, 27 September 2005 01:05 (twenty years ago)

(Okay, I've been won over since Season 1 Ep 1, but still...)

― rrrobyn (rrrobyn), Tuesday, 27 September 2005 01:07 (twenty years ago)

Dave Thomas! I thought it was a good episode (the Rumsfeld gag, the "tiny IRA," Andy Griffith, HARRY HAMLIN, and Free Chicken), but it wasn't AD's best.

That said, a subpar Arrested Development is still the best thing on TV at this point.

― d4niel coh3n (dayan), Tuesday, 27 September 2005 01:23 (twenty years ago)

I thought it was totally spotty but still amazing. The Rumsfeld gag had me and my girlfriend's jaws dropping...the Harry Hamlin gag had me explaining to my (younger) girlfriend what LA Law was.

The bleeding hairplugs, and the response to the question "are you buying or are you just curious again?" "I guess I'm bi-curious", that's CLASSIC!

But the thing that cracked me up the most was when he arrived in Wee Britian and there's a sign that suddenly the streets run on the opposite side.

I really think this episode was the most absurd yet. Wee Britain, not to mention the use of the For Your Eyes Only Bond type theme just made it seem like it crossed some line into totally absurd world, whereas in the past it was mostly absurd family in our world. I know there's been some weird stuff, but this was just too much. "What's today's soup?" "Bread."

― Dan Selzer (Dan Selzer), Tuesday, 27 September 2005 01:37 (twenty years ago)

dan otm

― cutty (mcutt), Tuesday, 27 September 2005 01:45 (twenty years ago)

"For British eyes o-only..."

― rrrobyn (rrrobyn), Tuesday, 27 September 2005 01:51 (twenty years ago)

My wife & I were talking about how only AD could pull off a joke like "I guess I'm Buy-Curious" and have it be funny..

"No one is making fun of Andy Griffith. I can't stress that enough."

Last night is when I decided to buy all the DVDs, even though it wasn't their best show.

― when something smacks of something (dave225.3), Tuesday, 27 September 2005 11:11 (twenty years ago)

A very wise decision.

― O'so Krispie (Ex Leon), Tuesday, 27 September 2005 11:44 (twenty years ago)

Michael's pickup attempts with Rita were hilarious.

Next week: Bob Loblaw.

― DR. FRANK EINSTEIN PHD (cprek), Tuesday, 27 September 2005 12:23 (twenty years ago)

Bob Loblaw is fucking hilarious.

― kelsey (kelstarry), Tuesday, 27 September 2005 12:34 (twenty years ago)

I was disappointed last night. I was thrown off by the extra stuff in "Previously on..." which made me feel like I had missed an episode and made me anxious, then the Wee Briton stuff seemed totally out of place (though "The soup is bread" was really funny). I don't know. Seemed off. Though a friend dropped by about 10 minutes in and was giving us gifts so I was probably just distracted.

― n/a (Nick A.), Tuesday, 27 September 2005 12:56 (twenty years ago)

I felt like people who had never seen an episode and tried to start watching the show in the middle of season two must have felt. Totally lost.

― n/a (Nick A.), Tuesday, 27 September 2005 12:57 (twenty years ago)

how can I forget...

"steve holt, what are you doing here?"

"I'm here for the magic show"

"you...like magic?"

"no...I LOVE magic!"

not so much a funny joke as a charminly funny interaction if you know the characters.

― Dan Selzer (Dan Selzer), Tuesday, 27 September 2005 13:09 (twenty years ago)

oh yeah, Scott Baio is the third happy days alum to be involved with the show, you think Ron Howard and Scott have been hanging out all these years...chasing playboy models?

― Dan Selzer (Dan Selzer), Tuesday, 27 September 2005 13:12 (twenty years ago)

Is Tom Bosley still alive?

― n/a (Nick A.), Tuesday, 27 September 2005 13:16 (twenty years ago)

Apparently he is!

― n/a (Nick A.), Tuesday, 27 September 2005 13:17 (twenty years ago)

I think a great marketing campaign would be t shirts that read:

What Would Bob Loblaw Do?

― kelsey (kelstarry), Tuesday, 27 September 2005 13:19 (twenty years ago)

where was scott baio in the episode?

― cutty (mcutt), Tuesday, 27 September 2005 13:21 (twenty years ago)

he was in the preview for next week.

― kelsey (kelstarry), Tuesday, 27 September 2005 13:23 (twenty years ago)

he's going to be there lawyer in the next episode, it was introduced at the very end. Chacci, how the hell do you spell that? replacing the Fonz!

― Dan Selzer (Dan Selzer), Tuesday, 27 September 2005 13:23 (twenty years ago)

CHACHI.

― Huk-L (Huk-L), Tuesday, 27 September 2005 13:57 (twenty years ago)

Hold on, are you people making fun of Bread Soup?

http://thefoody.com/mrsbsoups/breadsoup.html

Mrs Beeton no less.

― Pete (Pete), Tuesday, 27 September 2005 14:22 (twenty years ago)

"In prison you just had to close your eyes and take it, here you have to close your eyes and give it."

― La Monte (La Monte), Tuesday, 27 September 2005 14:30 (twenty years ago)

I'm going to be laughing to myself all day as I think of Bob Loblaw.

― when something smacks of something (dave225.3), Tuesday, 27 September 2005 16:39 (twenty years ago)

Bob Loblaw may be one of the greatest names ever.

― O'so Krispie (Ex Leon), Tuesday, 27 September 2005 16:44 (twenty years ago)

I'm sure I've heard it before. Possibly vaudeville?

― Huk-L (Huk-L), Tuesday, 27 September 2005 16:47 (twenty years ago)

http://www.bobloblaw.com/

― Dan Selzer (Dan Selzer), Tuesday, 27 September 2005 16:48 (twenty years ago)

The URL is funnier than the page.

http://www.ratemyteachers.ca/schools/ontario/toronto/armando_ponte_school_for_the_challenged_middle_sch/bob__loblaw

― Huk-L (Huk-L), Tuesday, 27 September 2005 16:50 (twenty years ago)

I definitely agree that the Wee Britain stuff felt out of place.

Elsewhere I've seen people complaining that the chicken dances were too over-the-top, but I loved them, definitely one of the best parts of the episode for me.

― Ross Godfrey (scatter), Tuesday, 27 September 2005 20:49 (twenty years ago)

i wonder if they leave it up to the actors to create their own chicken dances.

― cutty (mcutt), Tuesday, 27 September 2005 21:25 (twenty years ago)

That's the thing about that show. Even the lame parts eventually redeem themselves. Those chicken dances were over the top, but Gob running in late to do his dance with his mask on and Tobias watching him from the kitchen more than made up for it.

― Pleasant Plains /// (Pleasant Plains ///), Tuesday, 27 September 2005 21:25 (twenty years ago)

omg, last night's ep was amazing.

― maria tessa sciarrino (theoreticalgirl), Tuesday, 27 September 2005 21:49 (twenty years ago)

from Tim Goodman's most recent column in the San Francisco Chronicle, for whatever it's worth. it should probably be noted that he's been a vocal enough supporter of the show that they've actually written his name into a few episodes. mock, debunk, absorb, etc etc:

"Arrested Development." The funniest show on television is all but dead. There's no official announcement yet, but all the signs are there, and if this short-lived thing of beauty even manages to deliver half of a season, consider that a sanctioned-by-Rome miracle.

The ratings are abysmal. Fewer than 4 million viewers, which puts it in cable territory. Despite what may have been one of its funniest episodes ever in the first week, nobody watched. This past Monday, even fewer people watched. So much for Emmy power. So much for Charlize Theron as a cameo draw.

Blame? Easy. Fox moved the series from Sunday to Monday, which was: (a) stupid, (b) a planned assassination or (c) all of the above. The network barely promoted the night switch -- a killer for viewers, especially those trying to sample 30 new series -- and sure enough, "Arrested Development" drew fewer viewers than last season. Worse, once on Monday, the series got almost no push. Now, there's one more episode before Major League Baseball pre-empts the show -- and Fox will air "Prison Break" repeats in that slot for a bit after that and before, ahem, bringing back "Arrested Development."

Yeah, that'll happen. Enjoy next Monday's episode. Chances are, everything after that will be dubbed "the lost episodes" on the next DVD. Here's how things get worse for Fox: "Kitchen Confidential" is also dying on Mondays. That means Fox hasn't been able to launch a decent sitcom in some time, and, no, "The War at Home" on Sundays doesn't count. If you watch that, you deserve it.

But it's true that the audience always decides. Always. And if it doesn't want "Arrested Development" but gloms onto the asinine "War at Home," three things are in play here: (a) Nielsen families have lame taste, (b) we get the television we really deserve and (c) most damning, the theory of sophisticated urban viewers is out the window. San Francisco was the 27th-ranked market for "Arrested Development." New York, Los Angeles and Chicago all tied for 21st. And Boston was 45th. So much for savvy. Let's move to Portland, Ore., -- it was the No. 1-ranked market for "Arrested Development."

― PeopleFunnyBoy (PeopleFunnyBoy), Friday, 30 September 2005 17:15 (twenty years ago)

Half the time, the concepts behind various episodes of this show make whether they're actually good or not less important in retrospect. See: tonight, Bob Loblaw.

― lemin (lemin), Monday, 3 October 2005 22:56 (twenty years ago)

pretty dissapointing, analrapist notwithstanding.

― Dan Selzer (Dan Selzer), Monday, 3 October 2005 23:31 (twenty years ago)

tonight's was MUCH better

― Jams Murphy (ystrickler), Monday, 3 October 2005 23:31 (twenty years ago)

the whole forget-me-now thing at the end with job was brilliant.

― cutty (mcutt), Monday, 3 October 2005 23:37 (twenty years ago)

episode was way funnier than last week's. hopefully Franklin will appear more often whenever the show comes back

― lemin (lemin), Monday, 3 October 2005 23:51 (twenty years ago)

awesome. imdb just confirmed that the guy who played the surrogate tonight(and who also appeared in an episode of curb your enthusiasm awhile back) is, in fact, Super Dave Osbourne. i could have sworn that was him in both instances. but for some reason every person i asked had no idea what the hell i was talking about.

but now my suspicions have been confirmed. SUPER DAVE 4 LIFE.

― Werner Herzog Eats His Shoe (Plastic Gas Booby Trap), Monday, 3 October 2005 23:57 (twenty years ago)

HILARIOUS

made me even more bummed about the SF Chron speculations...

― PeopleFunnyBoy (PeopleFunnyBoy), Monday, 3 October 2005 23:58 (twenty years ago)

Also, it appears that not only is Super Dave's real last name "Einstein," he's also Albert Brooks' brother. This guy is unstoppable.

― Werner Herzog Eats His Shoe (Plastic Gas Booby Trap), Monday, 3 October 2005 23:59 (twenty years ago)

probably did not need both bold & caps.

― PeopleFunnyBoy (PeopleFunnyBoy), Monday, 3 October 2005 23:59 (twenty years ago)

re: Super Dave

he also is a recurring character in Curb Your Enthusiasm

― PeopleFunnyBoy (PeopleFunnyBoy), Tuesday, 4 October 2005 00:00 (twenty years ago)

yeah, no big shock with seeing super dave considering his stint on curb.

― cutty (mcutt), Tuesday, 4 October 2005 00:09 (twenty years ago)

yeah, i had seen him on curb awhile ago but never bothered to check and see if it was him or not. so i was less surprised to see him on arrested development but it reminded me that i had never looked it up.

― Werner Herzog Eats His Shoe (Plastic Gas Booby Trap), Tuesday, 4 October 2005 00:13 (twenty years ago)

man, I used to LOVE super dave. I totally didn't recognize him.

― Dan Selzer (Dan Selzer), Tuesday, 4 October 2005 00:39 (twenty years ago)

Also, it appears that not only is Super Dave's real last name "Einstein," he's also Albert Brooks' brother.

Which, of course, means that Albert Brooks' real name is Albert .......

― Pleasant Plains /// (Pleasant Plains ///), Tuesday, 4 October 2005 00:49 (twenty years ago)

The network barely promoted the night switch -- a killer for viewers, especially those trying to sample 30 new series -- and sure enough, "Arrested Development" drew fewer viewers than last season.

False and false. They've been promoting the show pretty heavily, way more than ever before. But they are up against some SERIOUS competition, and are holding up about as well as can be reasonably expected.

What part of "they are putting up with subpar ratings because the show brings in a valuable demographic and is profitable in dvd and syndication and thus will probably not be removed for fear of having another Family Guy situation" does this jackass not comprehend?

― Matthew C Perpetua (inca), Tuesday, 4 October 2005 02:34 (twenty years ago)

The odds are more like the show will be promptly cancelled as soon as it hits a suitable number of episodes to sell in syndication. It used to be 100, but some series do just fine with fewer. They will at least finish out this season to bring the tally up to 62.

― Matthew C Perpetua (inca), Tuesday, 4 October 2005 02:35 (twenty years ago)

Well, the bit about them bringing in fewer viewers is not false, obvs.

― Matthew C Perpetua (inca), Tuesday, 4 October 2005 02:36 (twenty years ago)

do you think there would be any chance that the show will go to FX or something? god, i really love this show and will be quite sad if they cancel it

― JD from CDepot, Tuesday, 4 October 2005 03:59 (twenty years ago)

How the hell would the show work in syndication? Isn't the point of syndication that you can just catch a random episode as you're, like, cooking spaghetti or something? But as we've pointed out, half of AD doesn't make sense if you don't see them in order.

Last night's was better than last week's, but still pretty much a mess.

Does anyone else think that the "previously on..." from last week's episode might have been brought about by pressure to "Hurry up and get to the Charlize Theron episodes, so maybe you'll get some fucking ratings this season," and so they compressed an episode or two into the "previously on"?

― n/a (Nick A.), Tuesday, 4 October 2005 13:03 (twenty years ago)

They've gotten a little overbearing with the musical cues too. I feel like there was music throughout ALL of last night's episode.

Guys, I'm getting disillusioned.

― n/a (Nick A.), Tuesday, 4 October 2005 13:23 (twenty years ago)

There are rumors that Ricky Gervais will be guest-starring this season. The new British storyline has made me very excited at the possibility.

http://www.ananova.com/entertainment/story/sm_1558619.html

― Jessie the Monster (scarymonsterrr), Tuesday, 4 October 2005 14:45 (twenty years ago)

Super Dave is awesome. For some reason, I always thought he was Canadian.

― Huk-L (Huk-L), Tuesday, 4 October 2005 14:50 (twenty years ago)

AD will be back on Halloween according the fox AD site.

I really enjoyed this ep. Franklin was back. What else do we need?

I think that it's holding up fairly well considering the competition. I think that at worst it'll get moved to Friday nights with the other "struggling" comedies Malcom and Bernie Mac which is fine with me as long as I don't get slipped a forget-me-not.

"What a fun, sexy time for you" -Michael Cera rules.

― rocknrolldetox (rocknrolldetox), Tuesday, 4 October 2005 15:17 (twenty years ago)

I can't believe they got away with the analrapist bit.

― O'so Krispie (Ex Leon), Tuesday, 4 October 2005 15:21 (twenty years ago)

I laughed hardest at the dumbest things this week:
"This isn't the first time I've replaced Barry Zuckerman."

Michael: ".... sort of an Arrested Development ...."
Narrator: "Hey! That's the name of the show!"

― when something smacks of something (dave225.3), Tuesday, 4 October 2005 15:21 (twenty years ago)

That's my son, you pothead!

― Huk-L (Huk-L), Tuesday, 4 October 2005 15:24 (twenty years ago)

"analrapist" was totally the shitty Sean Connery imitation on Jeopardy on SNL. Sorry.

Michael Cera was great last night though. He is amazing.

― n/a (Nick A.), Tuesday, 4 October 2005 15:25 (twenty years ago)

I think they're purposely going harder for the "raunchy" jokes this season. Either because they think it will help them score some Family Dad viewers or because they've just quit giving a fuck. I'm not really a fan of them, but there's still more than enough other stuff going on that I quit giving a fuck.

― Huk-L (Huk-L), Tuesday, 4 October 2005 15:34 (twenty years ago)

despite the significantly higher joke per minute ratio, this third season kinda sucks. the storylines are retarded.

― mark p (Mark P), Tuesday, 4 October 2005 22:21 (twenty years ago)

Ep. 3 was alright, not as good as the first 2 though. That Therapists/The Rapists has been around awhile due to that popular SNL skit.

― Michael F Gill (Michael F Gill), Tuesday, 4 October 2005 22:30 (twenty years ago)

it was the main joke of an episode of Three's Company

― kyle (akmonday), Tuesday, 4 October 2005 22:32 (twenty years ago)

I thought this episode was better, than the previous two, but maybe I have forgotten the others, already

― RJG (RJG), Tuesday, 4 October 2005 22:41 (twenty years ago)

I definitely agree that something about the last two episodes seemed kinda off compared to earlier episodes, but I mean I'll take what I can get - I still laughed pretty consistently through both those episodes.

― Ross G. (scatter), Tuesday, 4 October 2005 22:43 (twenty years ago)

I fucking found a $5 bill on the ground today. Why wasn't it a $20? This fucking sucks.

― when something smacks of something (dave225.3), Tuesday, 4 October 2005 23:43 (twenty years ago)

raise your standards dave

― mark p (Mark P), Wednesday, 5 October 2005 02:07 (twenty years ago)

I fucking found a $5 bill on the ground today. Why wasn't it a $20? This fucking sucks.
-- when something smacks of something (right.knewi...), October 4th, 2005 8:43 PM.

Well, I mean, yeah, I agree with this analogy, because this pretty much sums up how I feel about the last two episodes. The new episodes are great, the older episodes were even better - and I suppose you're right that this is no cause for complaint.

― Ross G. (scatter), Wednesday, 5 October 2005 02:17 (twenty years ago)

I referenced the bread soup joke today. While putting bread in broth (we were having mussels.) It was mostly funny to me.

I like how Bob Loblaw is the opposite kind of lawyer to Barry Zuckerman, in terms of seriousness and "doing the job" but is probably equally as lame/bad. And is Scott Baio, not the Fonz. It's really almost all too much, the twisted tv web, but I love it.

And, wow, Michael Cera is also Canadian! Brampton!

― rrrobyn (rrrobyn), Wednesday, 5 October 2005 02:25 (twenty years ago)

Is is Zuckerman or Zuckercorn? Am I getting this confused with the cornballer?

― when something smacks of something (dave225.3), Wednesday, 5 October 2005 11:01 (twenty years ago)

It's Barry Zuckerkorn I believe.

― rocknrolldetox (rocknrolldetox), Wednesday, 5 October 2005 19:24 (twenty years ago)

He's very good.

― Sparkle Motion's Rising Force, Wednesday, 5 October 2005 20:32 (twenty years ago)

He's no Gene Parmesan!

Cripes! I just stood for a minute and marvelled at how many characters have breezed through the Bluths life, lo these 2.15 years. And not merely STOCK characters, but BRIGHTLY IMAGINED BEINGS who you can/MUST imagine inhabiting lives worthy of their own shows.

Roger Danish
Marta (did anybody else notice that Marta was played by a THIRD actress in the flashback this week!)
Lucille Austero
Steve Holt STEVE HOLT!
Johnny Bark
Actor's Studio Warden
Wh!te Power Bill
Kitty
Wayne Jarvis
Carl Weathers

THE LIST GOES ON FOREVER!

― Huk-L (Huk-L), Wednesday, 5 October 2005 21:08 (twenty years ago)

Okay. Someone explain it to me. Why is the name STEVE HOLT so funny?

― Pleasant Plains /// (Pleasant Plains ///), Wednesday, 5 October 2005 21:09 (twenty years ago)

It's not the name itself, it's that Steve Holt always pumps his fists in the air and bellows his own name. THAT'S FUNNY.

― Huk-L (Huk-L), Wednesday, 5 October 2005 21:11 (twenty years ago)

Oh.

I thought that there was some sort of hidden meaning like George B__h Sr and George B__h Jr, LuSEAL, Mabey, Bob Loblaw, and a guy named Michael who's trying to hold his family business together once the patriarch has been taken out of the situation (He's even not the oldest of the brothers!)

― Pleasant Plains /// (Pleasant Plains ///), Wednesday, 5 October 2005 21:22 (twenty years ago)

you forgot ICE the bounty hunter.

― cutty (mcutt), Wednesday, 5 October 2005 21:23 (twenty years ago)

I was gonna say...the arc where they all go to mexico looking for Sr. is what sold me on the show and made me get the first season DVD. When they print the life-size picture of him on the blueprint plotter Ice tackles David Cross because he's in Blue Man Group paint and the mexican builders start planning on building a giant george bluth...

― Dan Selzer (Dan Selzer), Wednesday, 5 October 2005 21:44 (twenty years ago)

hell yeah. YOU ALL SHOULD BE GRATEFUL THIS WONDERFUL SHOW IS STILL ON TH E AIR. ENJOY IT WHILE IT LASTS.

― cutty (mcutt), Wednesday, 5 October 2005 21:52 (twenty years ago)

Huk, I was wondering if anyone caught that Marta thing as well. That probably got the best laugh out of me despite the fact that it was just on screen for like a split second.

Sometimes I wonder if they do stuff like that for the benefit of the show's fans or if they could care less if anyone catches it and just pat themselves on the back for being so clever.

― Werner Herzog Eats His Shoe (Plastic Gas Booby Trap), Wednesday, 5 October 2005 22:09 (twenty years ago)

still the best show evah. the roofies jokes sleighed me.

― stirmonster (stirmonster), Thursday, 6 October 2005 00:24 (twenty years ago)

I actually said, "Hey, that's a third Marta!" out loud, even though there was no one else in my apt. (which is a good thing)(except when I'm lonely)

― Huk-L (Huk-L), Thursday, 6 October 2005 00:27 (twenty years ago)

when was marta in it, again?

― RJG (RJG), Thursday, 6 October 2005 00:28 (twenty years ago)

about a third of the way through the first series.

― stirmonster (stirmonster), Thursday, 6 October 2005 00:40 (twenty years ago)

sorry, the third marta, in this episode

I didn't notice it, at all

― RJG (RJG), Thursday, 6 October 2005 00:43 (twenty years ago)

the flashbacks to the prior girlfriends. Man, Buster making fun of the one girlfriend's large breast was amazing, as was Lucille giving Marta a dusting cloth. Reminiscent of what may still be my favorite joke of the series, when Lucille is at the Daytime Emmy Awards surrounded by hispanic men in tuxedos complaining about not being able to get a drink.

― Dan Selzer (Dan Selzer), Thursday, 6 October 2005 00:52 (twenty years ago)

buster, in the flashback, made me laugh, a lot

― RJG (RJG), Thursday, 6 October 2005 00:53 (twenty years ago)

oh, that was supposed to be marta

― RJG (RJG), Thursday, 6 October 2005 00:53 (twenty years ago)

Dudes, is this getting cancelled or not, or is it still up in the air?

― Jordan (Jordan), Wednesday, 12 October 2005 17:14 (twenty years ago)

Haven't heard, but I'll take this opportunity to say "Fuck Baseball".

― when something smacks of something (dave225.3), Wednesday, 12 October 2005 17:27 (twenty years ago)

I am secretly hoping it is cancelled because a) third season has been disappointing thus far (except for first episode) and b) there would no longer be any TV shows on right now that I feel obligated to watch.

― n/a (Nick A.), Wednesday, 12 October 2005 17:27 (twenty years ago)

(x-post)
I know it's been pre-empted by baseball until the end of the month and is then expected to return. At the very least, I think they'll wait until the Charlize Theron arc is over before dropping the axe, if that is the intent. I'm also betting they'll be watching how the Season 2 DVDs sell. I know in my small Canadian city (pop 35,000), the DVDs sold out they day they were released at the two stores carrying them (I bought the last copy).

― Binjominia (Brilhante), Wednesday, 12 October 2005 17:29 (twenty years ago)

I watched "My Name Is Earl" last night, and I had a few good laughs. Which is exactly a few more than I expected.

― Huk-L (Huk-L), Wednesday, 12 October 2005 17:29 (twenty years ago)

Anyone buy the season 2 set yet? I am too broke at the moment.

― O'so Krispie (Ex Leon), Wednesday, 12 October 2005 17:30 (twenty years ago)

Is it out? I will get it soon probably but we are still too involved in watching Lost season 1 on DVD and also I'm feeling guilty about the number of DVDs I own and never watch.

― n/a (Nick A.), Wednesday, 12 October 2005 17:34 (twenty years ago)

It came out yesterday. My brother called to wish me a "Happy Arrested Development Season 2 on DVD Day". That guy. TASTE THE HAPPY.

― Huk-L (Huk-L), Wednesday, 12 October 2005 17:35 (twenty years ago)

Dudes, is this getting cancelled or not, or is it still up in the air?

Two episodes back-to-back on 11/7.

Optimist in me: Awesome, two back-to-back episodes!

Pessimist in me: Airing them in chunks like this makes it easier for them to clear out all the episodes already filmed, and thererfore easier to axe.

right now I am choosing to give myself over to the optimist.

― PeopleFunnyBoy (PeopleFunnyBoy), Wednesday, 12 October 2005 20:24 (twenty years ago)

obligated

― RJG (RJG), Friday, 14 October 2005 00:24 (twenty years ago)

three weeks pass...

corndog crosses...with all the crucifixin's

― Dan Selzer (Dan Selzer), Tuesday, 8 November 2005 01:29 (nineteen years ago)

"I think Michael's already plugged our leak"

― Michael F Gill (Michael F Gill), Tuesday, 8 November 2005 01:39 (nineteen years ago)

alias is a show about a spy

― cutty (mcutt), Tuesday, 8 November 2005 01:45 (nineteen years ago)

hahahaha

I was just going to post that.

― Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Tuesday, 8 November 2005 01:45 (nineteen years ago)

OMG that second episode was perfect.

― Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Tuesday, 8 November 2005 01:57 (nineteen years ago)

OMG the Godzilla send-up!

Both episodes (but especially the 2nd one) were classic.

― Michael F Gill (Michael F Gill), Tuesday, 8 November 2005 01:58 (nineteen years ago)

There was a second episode????

― La Monte (La Monte), Tuesday, 8 November 2005 01:59 (nineteen years ago)

that last episode was another wacky season 3 episode, totally bizarre, not really as sharp as those in the past I think, and so far beyond unbelievable...but I pissed my pants when Tobias as the Mole showed up and started destroying the town...then pissed my pants some more when George Michael showed up with the rocket pack for the battle.

― Dan Selzer (Dan Selzer), Tuesday, 8 November 2005 01:59 (nineteen years ago)

agree with Dan -- the Godzilla sendup was a really good payoff.

― PeopleFunnyBoy (PeopleFunnyBoy), Tuesday, 8 November 2005 02:02 (nineteen years ago)

I didn't expect to see Annyong.

― KSTFUNS (Ex Leon), Tuesday, 8 November 2005 02:03 (nineteen years ago)

I was DYING when that Godzilla vs. Robotboy thing went down.

― Matthew C Perpetua (inca), Tuesday, 8 November 2005 02:07 (nineteen years ago)

Absurd seems to be the theme this year.

― Michael F Gill (Michael F Gill), Tuesday, 8 November 2005 02:08 (nineteen years ago)

Absurd seems to be the theme this year.

Yeah, but they've taken a page out of the Seinfeld book and made the jokes at the beginning of the episode line up with the jokes at the end. The stupid Godzilla thing was raised to heavenly levels of stupid by the end.

― Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Tuesday, 8 November 2005 02:24 (nineteen years ago)

SO CLOSE TO GETTING RID OF CHARLIZE THERON. I HATE HER. We were really hoping she'd eat it in the Tunnel of Love, Indubitably.

― adam (adam), Tuesday, 8 November 2005 02:25 (nineteen years ago)

You... hate... Charlize Theron? Why on earth...?

― Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Tuesday, 8 November 2005 02:29 (nineteen years ago)

Just don't.

― KSTFUNS (Ex Leon), Tuesday, 8 November 2005 02:29 (nineteen years ago)

My only complaint is that Super Dave Orbourne is underused.

― Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Tuesday, 8 November 2005 02:30 (nineteen years ago)

Osbourne, even.

― Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Tuesday, 8 November 2005 02:30 (nineteen years ago)

the spy/mole scene in the conference room was so fucking well-done.

― cutty (mcutt), Tuesday, 8 November 2005 02:51 (nineteen years ago)

it appears that wee britain is modeled after this place:
http://www.oldworldvillage.net/

look at the pics. also: weiner dog races! sadly, it doesn't seem to have an america-themed restaurant.

― maura (maura), Tuesday, 8 November 2005 03:16 (nineteen years ago)

Ah, Huntington Beach! I should have known. If I ever happen to visit there again I will have to check it out.

― KSTFUNS (Ex Leon), Tuesday, 8 November 2005 03:32 (nineteen years ago)

I'm actually not that into Theron on this show either. It's not bad, but it's totally the weak link in these episodes.

Some priceless George Michael stuff in both of these episodes! Really, this entire season has been amazing for George Michael fans.

Also, G.O.B. is simultaneously becoming more sinister and more of an emotional train wreck.

― Matthew C Perpetua (inca), Tuesday, 8 November 2005 03:52 (nineteen years ago)

I liked it when Michael grabbed the army enrollment clip-board from Buster and took Buster's hand with him.

And everyone turning around when things are thrown at them.

― Dan Selzer (Dan Selzer), Tuesday, 8 November 2005 04:15 (nineteen years ago)

man if you guys lived here in orange county, yeah, sure, you'd be depressed and feel cut off from reality, but you'd read a lot more into about .05% of the jokes on this show.

― firstworldman (firstworldman), Tuesday, 8 November 2005 05:23 (nineteen years ago)

I liked the mock-up Entertainment Weekly cover with the "F" review for "Love, Indubitably": "Love, In-Don't-itably"!

Oh, and:

"Our next act, Annabelle Veal, will be singing "We Three Kings" with a camel tow." !!!

― Caught Red Handed at Sam's Hofbrau (Bent Over at the Arclight), Tuesday, 8 November 2005 06:39 (nineteen years ago)

I was semi-shocked at the reveal that Rita is a MR F. Not that, y'know, I missed the clues, but y'know, just that they were just kinda badump-bum about it.

― Huk-L (Huk-L), Tuesday, 8 November 2005 14:51 (nineteen years ago)

Buster got all the best jokes in the second episode: "If mother sees this, she's going to blow a cow!" and his comic timing in his response to the "English muffin" line ("Delicious!") was perfect. I appreciate Buster more this season. And Michael's confusion about Ann is still a comedy goldmine: "I call her Annabelle because she's shaped like...the belle of the ball."

― n/a (Nick A.), Tuesday, 8 November 2005 14:56 (nineteen years ago)

Sarah actually said "Awwww..." at one scene last night, but now I can't remember which one.

― n/a (Nick A.), Tuesday, 8 November 2005 15:00 (nineteen years ago)

Steve Holt got to wear different clothes! Steve Holt!

― Huk-L (Huk-L), Tuesday, 8 November 2005 15:00 (nineteen years ago)

OH! It was when Frank, the FBI agent, sadly said "Goodbye, Tobias."

― n/a (Nick A.), Tuesday, 8 November 2005 15:00 (nineteen years ago)

I thought that (M.R.F.) was pretty silly, but it was the first season 3 episode(s) I've seen.

Godzilla vs. Robotboy was great, it was telegraphed yet somehow completely surprising.

― Jordan (Jordan), Tuesday, 8 November 2005 15:07 (nineteen years ago)

starting somewhere in season 2, they've really been bringing out the desperation and sadness in gob's behavior. i like.

super surrogate dave is awesome.

i appreciate the running jokes at ann's expense ("who," confused "her?", "what is she..running the lights or something?", etc), but i always complain because i think she's cute! but she does, as a friend of mine pointed out, look a little bit like a little chubby-faced linda blair.

― andrew m. (andrewmorgan), Tuesday, 8 November 2005 18:40 (nineteen years ago)

Where does George Michael buy his shirts?

― Huk-L (Huk-L), Tuesday, 8 November 2005 18:44 (nineteen years ago)

I don't know, but it was adorable when he got excited about getting Quicken for his birthday.

― n/a (Nick A.), Tuesday, 8 November 2005 18:45 (nineteen years ago)

Did you keep the receipt? was one of the best classically set-up jokes ever.

― Huk-L (Huk-L), Tuesday, 8 November 2005 18:46 (nineteen years ago)

My boyfriend thinks Ann is hot.

"I heard the jury's still out on science."

― Jessie the Monster (scarymonsterrr), Tuesday, 8 November 2005 21:53 (nineteen years ago)

I think they've cutened Ann up as she's become more of a recurring character. She's genuinely bland in the older episodes, which is exaggerated by the fact that they always seemed to shoot her from far away, so that she looked tiny and indistinct (see the season 2 episode when they go to Mexico and leave Ann there).

― n/a (Nick A.), Tuesday, 8 November 2005 22:06 (nineteen years ago)

ann needs to be shown the ways of the secular flesh. i would be willing to show her. that's all i'm saying.

― andrew m. (andrewmorgan), Tuesday, 8 November 2005 22:10 (nineteen years ago)

"you really need to lock that down"

― andrew m. (andrewmorgan), Tuesday, 8 November 2005 22:19 (nineteen years ago)

what was that line Michael said about Anne?

it's as face as the nose on your plain?

― Dan Selzer (Dan Selzer), Tuesday, 8 November 2005 22:19 (nineteen years ago)

It's as __ as the ___ on plain's face. With nose and face in the blanks, but I can't remember in what order.

― n/a (Nick A.), Tuesday, 8 November 2005 22:21 (nineteen years ago)

Michael: I didn’t want to say that before when you were talking to Egg.

George Michael: I’m actually still talking with Ann.

Michael: Oh, she’s still going, huh? All right, great. Listen. I’ll talk to you later. I’m very excited.

― n/a (Nick A.), Tuesday, 8 November 2005 22:23 (nineteen years ago)

Egg! Because George Michael tells Michael about the adorable thing she does where she crams a hard-boiled egg and mayonnaise in her mouth, as a snack.

― n/a (Nick A.), Tuesday, 8 November 2005 22:24 (nineteen years ago)

And my favorite Ann-related quote:

George Michael: It's the girl who ripped my heart out. The girl whose face will always be etched in my mind.
George Sr.: Her?
(Unbelievably long pause)
George Michael: She's really funny.
George Sr.: Well let's hope so.

― n/a (Nick A.), Tuesday, 8 November 2005 22:27 (nineteen years ago)

It's as __ as the ___ on plain's face. With nose and face in the blanks, but I can't remember in what order.

I think it goes "It's as Ann as the nose on plain's face".

― Ross G. (scatter), Tuesday, 8 November 2005 23:09 (nineteen years ago)

http://img484.imageshack.us/img484/5292/untitled19ba.jpg

That is some awesome joke setup right there

http://img374.exs.cx/img374/6163/jetpants1oa.gif

― tylero (tylero), Tuesday, 8 November 2005 23:19 (nineteen years ago)

wee brain.. Ha! I missed that.

― D.I.Y. U.N.K.L.E. (dave225.3), Tuesday, 8 November 2005 23:21 (nineteen years ago)

You... hate... Charlize Theron? Why on earth...?

She's not funny! I hate that quirky shit. I'm kind of surprised that she (and her character) have defenders at all--my AD crew can't stand that ho.

― adam (adam), Tuesday, 8 November 2005 23:21 (nineteen years ago)

picked up on the second viewing:

"And it did seem like a lot of work for such a little payoff."

- Ron Howard, on the Jetpack Instructional DVD.

― PeopleFunnyBoy (PeopleFunnyBoy), Wednesday, 9 November 2005 00:34 (nineteen years ago)

yeah, george michael slipping on the floor in his haste to run upstairs and try out Quicken was rewind-worthy!

― heywood jablomi (heywood), Wednesday, 9 November 2005 00:48 (nineteen years ago)

Fox may not be killing Arrested Development, but it’s stabbing it in the gut, rolling it out of the passenger side door, and leaving it for dead by the side of the road. Variety reports that Fox is pulling the show from the schedule during sweeps (along with Kitchen Confidential, but we doubt its fans will be sending any foam Hail Marys to save it), and has reduced its order from 22 to 13 episodes. We’d tearfully lament the fact that we live in a world where Fox flips pancakes for the re-launch of Stacked while plotting AD’s demise, but a) as we all know by now, we’re dead inside, and b) Stacked probably won’t survive past December, either.

― KSTFUNS (Ex Leon), Thursday, 10 November 2005 21:55 (nineteen years ago)

― maura (maura), Thursday, 10 November 2005 21:57 (nineteen years ago)

things like this make me hate the world even more.

― maura (maura), Thursday, 10 November 2005 21:57 (nineteen years ago)

Fuck Fox. What is wrong with them? WHY YOU SPEND MILLIONS OF DOLLARS ON PRISON BREAK? NO ONE LIKES PRISON BREAK. CANCEL IT INSTEAD.

― adam (adam), Thursday, 10 November 2005 22:20 (nineteen years ago)

The report from Variety:

'Arrested,' 'Kitchen' cut back
Fox pulls both shows from sked

By JOSEF ADALIAN
It's not looking good for "Arrested Development" or frosh laffer
"Kitchen Confidential."

Fox has cut back its episode order on the critically-admired
"Arrested" to just 13 segs, down from 22. Producers of "Kitchen,"
meanwhile, have been told the show won't be getting a full-season
pickup.

More worrisome: Fox is pulling both shows from the schedule, effective
immediately. "Arrested" returned from a month-long hiatus this week,
while "Kitchen" was slated to return Monday.

Instead of the two laffers, Fox will air repeats of drama "Prison
Break" in the 8-9 p.m. Monday slot for the rest of the November sweeps.
It's presumed "Arrested" and "Kitchen" will return to finish out the
remainder of their runs in December. Come January, net has long planned
to move "House" into the Monday slot.

Fox wasn't commenting Thursday morning, and for now, nobody's using the
word "cancellation." But in the case of "Arrested," the handwriting
appears to be on the wall.

While numbers for "Arrested" were underwhelming this week, it's worth
noting that a number of returning laffers -- including Fox's "Stacked"
-- aren't doing much better.

― PeopleFunnyBoy (PeopleFunnyBoy), Thursday, 10 November 2005 22:21 (nineteen years ago)

Prison Break is actually being put on hold too. Save yr hate for American Idol.

― n/a (Nick A.), Thursday, 10 November 2005 22:24 (nineteen years ago)

stupid stacked. fuck that shit.

also, prison break was *supposed* to end at the end of this month.

― maura (maura), Thursday, 10 November 2005 22:31 (nineteen years ago)

"Stacked" has the least funny commercials of any show ever, and that includes WWII documentaries on the History Channel.

― n/a (Nick A.), Thursday, 10 November 2005 22:33 (nineteen years ago)

Depressing. The only silver lining: I guarantee the show, with only eight or so episodes left, will go out with a bang.

― Binjominia (Brilhante), Friday, 11 November 2005 00:52 (nineteen years ago)

Oh, it'll go out with a bang for sure, but I can't believe Fox. What the hell?! What a weird/not-weird-enough world. That last episode of AD was incredibly classic - I watched it twice in a row! Is there a thread on: Creating and staying in your happy corner of the world, with friends, family, all the things you like: c/d? I know it's probably dud, but sometimes, like when things like AD being "cut back" happen, I want it to be classic.

― rrrobyn (rrrobyn), Friday, 11 November 2005 06:07 (nineteen years ago)

The best George Michael line was this from the beginning of episode four, it was all about the delivery:

Dad: "Yeah. Who's Ann?"

GM: "My... my girlfriend. She's... You've met her. So many times. Met her and met her."

Almost as good as "what a fun and sexy time for you!"

― fortunate hazel (f. hazel), Friday, 11 November 2005 07:04 (nineteen years ago)

I still most love the first time that joke was used..."you know ann, you met her...you let her in...she sitting right there..." pan to ann...

― Dan Selzer (Dan Selzer), Friday, 11 November 2005 15:27 (nineteen years ago)

it was fun while it lasted.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20051111/tv_nm/shows_dc

Networks cancel '7th Heaven,' 'Arrested'

LOS ANGELES (Hollywood Reporter) - The Camdens will bid farewell to viewers in May when the WB Network's top-rated family drama "7th Heaven" ends its run after 10 seasons in what sources said was largely a cost-cutting move.

The Bluth clan of Fox's ratings-challenged "Arrested Development" is also headed for the exit after Fox cut the third-season order on the Emmy-winning comedy to 13 episodes.

Also getting the ax at Fox is "Arrested's" companion on Monday, the freshman comedy "Kitchen Confidential," whose order will not be extended beyond the initial 13 episodes.

[...]

As for the demise of "Arrested," it comes just as the acclaimed comedy came back this week after a hiatus to make room for Fox's baseball coverage. The two back-to-back episodes averaged a paltry 4 million viewers Monday, sending Fox to fifth place in the 8 p.m. hour and putting a dent on the ratings of its lead-out, the rookie drama "Prison Break."

There is a possibility that the show will be shopped around, but its high cost is expected to be prohibitive for a cable network.

Fox said Thursday that it will pull "Arrested Development" and "Kitchen Confidential" off the schedule for the remaining three Mondays of the November sweep, replacing them with a rerun of the previous episode of "Prison Break" leading into an original episode of the serialized drama.

― PeopleFunnyBoy (PeopleFunnyBoy), Friday, 11 November 2005 17:16 (nineteen years ago)

Well at least Seventh Heaven is going down with it.

― n/a (Nick A.), Friday, 11 November 2005 17:18 (nineteen years ago)

http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20051111/tv_nm/shows_dc

What would have been nice is if they bothered to promote it. I'm sorry, a show this sharp, this funny, this unique, deserves more support. Fuck FOX. How about showing re-runs of Arrested Developement before new episodes so people could try to catch up. Fact is, the show is very dense and I think has gotten harder and harder to enjoy unless you've seen many episodes. That's a hard thing to sell/promote. In any case, I think it's better off, I like shows that stop, like the UK Office...2 perfect seasons and the x-mas special. Better for AD to end the series with a bang and have 3 great DVD sets then to have it go on and on and lose steam, or just unceremoniously stop in the middle of a story arc.

― Dan Selzer (Dan Selzer), Friday, 11 November 2005 17:19 (nineteen years ago)

Better for AD to end the series with a bang and have 3 great DVD sets then to have it go on and on and lose steam, or just unceremoniously stop in the middle of a story arc.

OTM. I wish more shows did this.

― rasheed wallace (rasheed wallace), Friday, 11 November 2005 17:22 (nineteen years ago)

or just unceremoniously stop in the middle of a story arc.

cutting the season from 22 to 13 episodes seems to me to do just this

― Jams Murphy (ystrickler), Friday, 11 November 2005 17:24 (nineteen years ago)

yeah, but that assumes they have 22 episodes worth of story developement planned, which I highly doubt. At this point, the can plan out what's worth keeping and what isn't, and to honest, both of the first two seasons sagged in the middle, with the main writers and directors not being involved...so maybe this is for the best?

― Dan Selzer (Dan Selzer), Friday, 11 November 2005 17:30 (nineteen years ago)

I'm kind of glad this will be over, it's been disappointing overall this season and since it's my only "appointment TV" show right now it frees up my schedule for my hectic social life.

― n/a (Nick A.), Friday, 11 November 2005 17:35 (nineteen years ago)

Taste my sad.

― KSTFUNS (Ex Leon), Friday, 11 November 2005 17:53 (nineteen years ago)

xpost Ah, but only because you're not caught up on Lost. Once that happens, it's Goodbye Wednesday.

― Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Friday, 11 November 2005 17:58 (nineteen years ago)

This show will be loved forever. So so classic. People will watch it many years from now. Cable channels will run marathons of it. It'll be like... I don't know. "Soap," maybe.

― Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Friday, 11 November 2005 18:06 (nineteen years ago)

In fairness to Fox, they have stuck by the show when most any other network would have axed it almost right away. They went out of their way to protect it from getting demolished in the sweeps, and it's sort of miraculous that it ever got this far without any noticeable interference.

I wouldn't be shocked if Fox stuck with it a little while longer, or if it ended up elsewhere. But even if it's the end, it's the best run of any comedy program in the history of television, and the cult will only grow.

― Matthew C Perpetua (inca), Friday, 11 November 2005 18:11 (nineteen years ago)

ARGH

― adam (adam), Friday, 11 November 2005 18:51 (nineteen years ago)

have they already made the rest of the episodes for the season, or will they be able to give the series a finish?

honestly I actually have only seen the first season, still. I did just buy the season 2 dvds. I still have all of this season on tivo.

― kyle (akmonday), Friday, 11 November 2005 18:52 (nineteen years ago)

Seriously, AD fans should be seriously thankful there have been as many episodes as there have been. Under any other circumstances the show never would have been renewed for S3.

It's pretty much common knowledge in the tv biz that the show was kept around not so much because of the critical accolades or Fox's desire to nurture it, but because Fox's new President, Peter Ligouri, took over the network from Gail Berman at a precarious time for Fox. If his first move as president of the network was to cancel AD, the media coverage would have been horrendous - endless articles from culture watchers about "this is what's wrong with TV," etc. Despite "Stacked," Fox is making a serious effort to try to strengthen its brand. Hiring Ligouri, who was head of FX and brought "Nip/Tuck," "The Shield," etc. to that network, was a step in the direction of "classing up" FOX a bit.

Anyway, yes, genuinely depressing that the show could be gone, but not surprising at all.

― Caught Red Handed at Sam's Hofbrau (Bent Over at the Arclight), Friday, 11 November 2005 19:10 (nineteen years ago)

It's done.

http://www.cnn.com/2005/SHOWBIZ/TV/11/11/television.shows.reut/index.html

― kelsey (kelstarry), Friday, 11 November 2005 19:23 (nineteen years ago)

Haha, the picture accompanying that article is ridiculous.

― Jordan (Jordan), Friday, 11 November 2005 19:34 (nineteen years ago)

Great. We can't make it a cult classic if it's popular now can we ^_^

The "Family Guy college audience treatment" begins...now!

― Cunga (Cunga), Friday, 11 November 2005 20:26 (nineteen years ago)

I dunno if it's right to blame Fox for this … they've held on to a show with no audience for three years, now! I mean… I'm as big a fan as they come but the ratings for AD are basically in the crapper. And 3 seasons (or 2.5 seasons) isn't such a bad run, lately.

― Remy (x Jeremy), Friday, 11 November 2005 20:35 (nineteen years ago)

The Bluth clan of Fox's ratings-challenged "Arrested Development" is also headed for the exit

Wait, is this just likely or is it definite? The language here doesn't seem absolute to me.

― Laura H. (laurah), Friday, 11 November 2005 21:05 (nineteen years ago)

It's not absolute, but it is likely. TV writers took the cut to 13 eps and removal for sweeps and ran with it. The true test is whether or not it returns after sweeps. If it is cancelled we'll know when Fox "forgets" to put it back on the air and says nothing. Nothing's official yet.

I agree that Fox doesn't carry all the blame. I blame non-AD watching America.

I'm holding out hope that it will move to FX.

― rocknrolldetox (rocknrolldetox), Friday, 11 November 2005 21:15 (nineteen years ago)

I just watched the pilot episode again. George Michael's caption:
"Frozen Banana Salesman/ Child"

― D.I.Y. U.N.K.L.E. (dave225.3), Friday, 11 November 2005 23:05 (nineteen years ago)

On the Season 2 DVD, David Cross says something like, "If Fox can't figure out how to promote/market a show that wins this many Emmys and Golden Globes and other awards, maybe the problem isn't with the show."

― Huk-L (Huk-L), Saturday, 12 November 2005 01:32 (nineteen years ago)

What a good show this is. All of you, I saulute you. This show is one of the few activites I enjoy with my partner!

My favorite characters are BUSTER and TOBIAS. This show gets away with a lot of naughtyness... see joke a few weeks ago centering on "analrapist."

― Special Agent Dale Koopa (orion), Saturday, 12 November 2005 05:04 (nineteen years ago)

I mentioned it upthread once already, but I have to point out again that they had a camel toe joke involving a CHILD on last week's episode.

― Caught Red Handed at Sam's Hofbrau (Bent Over at the Arclight), Saturday, 12 November 2005 07:40 (nineteen years ago)

MR F

― Special Agent Dale Koopa (orion), Saturday, 12 November 2005 07:41 (nineteen years ago)

So sad. I hope they attempt to go to another network if it does get axed. I mean it would probably be among the highest rated sitcoms on a cable network or even UPN/WB if it maintained the same ratings. But 50+ episodes and 3 DVDs is still a solid amount.

― Michael F Gill (Michael F Gill), Saturday, 12 November 2005 11:42 (nineteen years ago)

Moving it to Mondays was really the death knell, at least for me - it's one of my five favorite shows no question, but I still kept fucking forgetting to watch it on Monday. I saw the season premiere but then after that it seemed like whenever I remembered to watch it wasn't on and when it actually aired I was cluelessly watching Monday Night Countdown instead or something.

― Josh Love (screamapillar), Saturday, 12 November 2005 14:46 (nineteen years ago)

Go head mr. wendal

― Forksclovetofu (Forksclovetofu), Sunday, 13 November 2005 00:00 (nineteen years ago)

It really isn't a good idea to make a show that needs a long cult gestation period despite being one of the most expensive shows to make on television. I don't think anyone will pick up the show unless it's ABC, CBS or NBC, because UPN, WB, and the cable channels couldn't afford it. And ABC, CBS and NBC happen to be the least likely channels to scoop it up.

― polyphonic (polyphonic), Sunday, 13 November 2005 02:40 (nineteen years ago)

Is there anything besides the cast that makes it so expensive?

― Jordan (Jordan), Sunday, 13 November 2005 03:01 (nineteen years ago)

HBO and FX could afford it, I'm sure.

― Matthew C Perpetua (inca), Sunday, 13 November 2005 03:15 (nineteen years ago)

ABC or CBS would never take this show. NBC, maaaaaaaybe if only cos they are in a bad way, but I doubt it.

― Matthew C Perpetua (inca), Sunday, 13 November 2005 03:17 (nineteen years ago)

it sucks that they're cancelling it!

although the last couple of episodes were pretty bad... the season so far, actually, has been really fucking weak, i thought. the charlize reveal was telegraphed at least 4 episodes ago and just feels really drawn out; the dave thomas and "for british eyes only" stuff are terrible, terrible recurring gags; and overall the eps have been way less inspired. i dunno, i think they're really slipping. maybe it's for the best.

― s1ocki (slutsky), Sunday, 13 November 2005 06:29 (nineteen years ago)

This season has definitely been a decline in quality, but only a slight one, nothing they couldn't rebound from. I hope it gets picked up by another station.

― Ross G. (scatter), Sunday, 13 November 2005 20:22 (nineteen years ago)

oh man...

so I'm watching season 2 on DVD just now and right before Buster's supposed to go off to war he's sitting on a bus bench. I'm thinking about the Wee Brain gag from this season so I'm wondering if they pulled the same thing and at first I don't notice it...then they flashback to him sitting there again and It says Army something something Officer, but of course because of Buster blocking most of it you just see...ARM OFF.

― Dan Selzer (Dan Selzer), Tuesday, 15 November 2005 06:12 (nineteen years ago)

three weeks pass...

Finally back tonight!

― Michael F Gill (Michael F Gill), Tuesday, 6 December 2005 01:07 (nineteen years ago)

ha, that end was amazing.

― cutty (mcutt), Tuesday, 6 December 2005 01:29 (nineteen years ago)

wow. that was amazing.

― maria tessa sciarrino (theoreticalgirl), Tuesday, 6 December 2005 01:46 (nineteen years ago)

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/7/73/Being_There_DVD.jpg/250px-Being_There_DVD.jpg

― cutty (mcutt), Tuesday, 6 December 2005 01:51 (nineteen years ago)

THAT WAS TERRIBLE. CHARLIZE THERON NEEDS TO DIE. I know the next two episodes will be great and I'll be all sad when it's gone but after tonight I'm ready for this shit to get cancelled.

― adam (adam), Tuesday, 6 December 2005 02:20 (nineteen years ago)

I don't want to see it cancelled, but it's been weaker than the earlier episodes. Still, some funny shit in there.

Anyone watching "how I met your mother" or whatever it's called? I saw about 15 minutes of it tonight & it was very funny in parts. A little more low-brow, but better than .. um, Titus or whatever else was on.

― D.I.Y. U.N.K.L.E. (dave225.3), Tuesday, 6 December 2005 02:34 (nineteen years ago)

The end was BRILLIANT! I was actually touched (until the "illusion"). Also, I find that the show actually gets better when watched on DVD. Something about pace, maybe. But yeah, I didn't think the 2nd season was better than the 1st until my roommates got the DVDs. So I don't think the quality has gone down. Also, the "Monster" shout-out was hilarious!

― regular roundups (Dave M), Tuesday, 6 December 2005 02:58 (nineteen years ago)

I thought it was merely okay for most of it (and again the previous two eps were all I'd seen of season 3), but the end was great. At least Charlize is gone, right?

― Jordan (Jordan), Tuesday, 6 December 2005 02:59 (nineteen years ago)

Let's hope so.

― Lars and Jagger (Ex Leon), Tuesday, 6 December 2005 02:59 (nineteen years ago)

Ha, I wasn't touched, but they actually had me going for a second. It was more, "oh hell no, they're not going to end it like that..." and then the funny kicked in.

― Jordan (Jordan), Tuesday, 6 December 2005 03:00 (nineteen years ago)

I didn't mind Charlize Theron. It's typical, but she is nice to watch. Jordan, how do we always end up at the same threads?

― regular roundups (Dave M), Tuesday, 6 December 2005 03:04 (nineteen years ago)

I thought she would hook up with Buster. Maybe that's next week.

― D.I.Y. U.N.K.L.E. (dave225.3), Tuesday, 6 December 2005 03:09 (nineteen years ago)

I think Buster actually gets the most ladies of all of the Bluth brothers, for all of the hulaballoo made about Michael (Gob kind of fell off the map after Marta, IMO). I mean, he got Lupe, the business model, didn't he get Kitty for a bit?, and the vacuum cleaner.

― regular roundups (Dave M), Tuesday, 6 December 2005 03:16 (nineteen years ago)

ah, well, maybe not the best episode but I didn't find it terrible. I mean:
"... and covers her in... club sauce!"
"sea-Britain"!
"think of a fun safe-word"

― rrrobyn (rrrobyn), Tuesday, 6 December 2005 04:18 (nineteen years ago)

i dunno, i loved this episode. i don't hate the charlize theron plot nearly as much as others seem to.

― PeopleFunnyBoy (PeopleFunnyBoy), Tuesday, 6 December 2005 04:21 (nineteen years ago)

I liked this episode but I am glad to see the Charlize Theron plot over and done with.

Although I will say that I definitely liked Rita more in this episode than in any other.

― Ross G. (scatter), Tuesday, 6 December 2005 04:50 (nineteen years ago)

i thought michael's flashback realization was hilarious. and the way george michael said r-r-retarded.

― cutty (mcutt), Tuesday, 6 December 2005 04:51 (nineteen years ago)

yeah, that was great. (the george michael "retarded")

― Ross G. (scatter), Tuesday, 6 December 2005 04:54 (nineteen years ago)

I LOVED IT!

so many in jokes though, it's funny having to explain to people the stupid recurring lines, in this case including:

"her?"

and Rita's entire conversation with her uncle about wanting to have sex being the same conversation George Michael had with Michael about having Pop Pop and "well I can tell by the fact you call it that that you're not ready".

I thought Theron was hilarious, I think this was the funniest episode of this arc.

― Dan Selzer (Dan Selzer), Tuesday, 6 December 2005 05:01 (nineteen years ago)

i loved the ending. and the sound effects when presented with artist's renderings of floating land, etc.

― AaronK (AaronK), Tuesday, 6 December 2005 05:08 (nineteen years ago)

"we should just buy a new tape, you know. they're not even that expensive."

― PeopleFunnyBoy (PeopleFunnyBoy), Tuesday, 6 December 2005 14:28 (nineteen years ago)

they show two episodes back to back every Sunday night late on BBC2. I usually have a headache by the end what with the density x velocity of the whole thing. probably the funniest show on BBC at the moment. i am in love with Kitty.

― Sororah T Massacre (blueski), Tuesday, 6 December 2005 14:58 (nineteen years ago)

Ha, I wasn't touched, but they actually had me going for a second. It was more, "oh hell no, they're not going to end it like that..." and then the funny kicked in.
-- Jordan (jordan...), December 5th, 2005 9:00 PM. (Jordan) (later)

Ditto.

Also glad the Theron plot arch is over. I thought she was pretty good and funny, it just wasn't that well-written and took a lot of time from the great regular characters (ie, hardly any Gob, George Michael, or Tobias in this episode).

― n/a (Nick A.), Tuesday, 6 December 2005 15:00 (nineteen years ago)

Superdave Osbourne firing himself in front of a mirror was great, as was his attempt to kiss Rita.

― Dan Selzer (Dan Selzer), Tuesday, 6 December 2005 15:26 (nineteen years ago)

I thought she was pretty good and funny, it just wasn't that well-written and took a lot of time from the great regular characters (ie, hardly any Gob, George Michael, or Tobias in this episode).

I agree. It's not like I hated Charlize or her character but the storyline dragged on an episode or two too long.

― Lars and Jagger (Ex Leon), Tuesday, 6 December 2005 15:29 (nineteen years ago)

Or three. Considering how few episodes are left, I really wish GOB and Buster were getting more screen time.

― Huk-L (Huk-L), Tuesday, 6 December 2005 15:32 (nineteen years ago)

Buster's jokes in this episode were pretty good: "Maybe he's gay!" and "GASP! She's already GOT our money!"

― n/a (Nick A.), Tuesday, 6 December 2005 15:37 (nineteen years ago)

http://www.eurotuned.com/media/vwcommercials_nolinking/Golf-mister-roboto.mov

― mark p (Mark P), Tuesday, 6 December 2005 15:43 (nineteen years ago)

That's a pretty old commercial, though I immediately thought of it as well.

― Huk-L (Huk-L), Tuesday, 6 December 2005 15:49 (nineteen years ago)

I forgot about the "covered her in . . . club sauce" that was hilarious. Other than that, I'm also glad charlize is gone. she takes away from the funny, i think.

― kelsey (kelstarry), Tuesday, 6 December 2005 16:20 (nineteen years ago)

huk you realize that's tony hale in the vw ad...

― mark p (Mark P), Tuesday, 6 December 2005 16:31 (nineteen years ago)

I did not! I didn't check the link, I was just, "oh yeah, that ad!"

WOW

― Huk-L (Huk-L), Tuesday, 6 December 2005 16:33 (nineteen years ago)

that's amazing!

What about using Charlize Theron's photo from the Aileen Waros movie to show what she looked like before plastic surgery?

― Dan Selzer (Dan Selzer), Tuesday, 6 December 2005 17:00 (nineteen years ago)

Tony Hale is Canadian, right?
Will Arnett definitely is, and I think George Michael might be, too?

― Huk-L (Huk-L), Tuesday, 6 December 2005 17:02 (nineteen years ago)

Ha ha I didn't realize it was Tony Hale in the VW ad either. LAYERS UPON LAYERS!

― n/a (Nick A.), Tuesday, 6 December 2005 17:11 (nineteen years ago)

I had a weekend of enlightment where I caught up on all of Season 2 and watched R Kelly's "Trapped in a closet". What a magical time.

― Spink, Tuesday, 6 December 2005 17:12 (nineteen years ago)

i really liked it when michael stole Gob's "Come on!"

― Special Agent Dale Koopa (orion), Tuesday, 6 December 2005 17:20 (nineteen years ago)

or when lindsay did lucille's blink, which always makes Michael respond "please don't do that"

― Dan Selzer (Dan Selzer), Tuesday, 6 December 2005 17:22 (nineteen years ago)

Sword of Destiny > *

― Spink, Tuesday, 6 December 2005 17:33 (nineteen years ago)

See how awesome this episode actually was?! It's like you've gone on a date with someone who's kind of cute and funny but nothing all that special, you think. And then you go home and for some reason keep thinking about them. And then you go on a few more dates and are, like, wow, I WANT TO MARRY THIS PERSON.

(This has never happened to me. Dear Universe, pls send AD in person-form, thx.)

― rrrobyn (rrrobyn), Tuesday, 6 December 2005 17:37 (nineteen years ago)

Ha ha I didn't realize it was Tony Hale in the VW ad either. LAYERS UPON LAYERS!

Which will surely only add grist to Ethan's mill. Or whatever the expression is.

― Huk-L (Huk-L), Tuesday, 6 December 2005 17:39 (nineteen years ago)

George Michael's "We had the signatures..." at the end of his cousin marrige law review was as funny as the rest of the episode combined.

― Brian Miller (Brian Miller), Tuesday, 6 December 2005 17:56 (nineteen years ago)

STEVE HOLT!

― STEVE HOLT, Tuesday, 6 December 2005 17:57 (nineteen years ago)

George Michael's "We had the signatures..." at the end of his cousin marrige law review was as funny as the rest of the episode combined.

this and "club sauce" had me laughing the hardest.

i dont know, i guess im in the minority here but i really liked having charlize in the series, if only for the outfits.

― maria tessa sciarrino (theoreticalgirl), Tuesday, 6 December 2005 19:08 (nineteen years ago)

I'm with you maria, I thought she was great, especially last night. "Let's have lie down kisses!"

― Dan Selzer (Dan Selzer), Tuesday, 6 December 2005 19:41 (nineteen years ago)

i agree with maria.

also, "a $15 thing of candy beans".

i'm just going to keep pulling out random quotes from the episode. I think last night probably had the greatest # of call-backs to previous eps of any episode ever.

― PeopleFunnyBoy (PeopleFunnyBoy), Tuesday, 6 December 2005 21:39 (nineteen years ago)

"That Blossom sure has grown up."

― n/a (Nick A.), Tuesday, 6 December 2005 21:46 (nineteen years ago)

I thought he said BLOWN up!

― Dan Selzer (Dan Selzer), Tuesday, 6 December 2005 22:26 (nineteen years ago)

I thought he said "that Blossom sure has blown up".

x-post!

― Lars and Jagger (Ex Leon), Tuesday, 6 December 2005 22:26 (nineteen years ago)

My version makes more sense, I think, especially given his tone of voice.

― n/a (Nick A.), Tuesday, 6 December 2005 22:28 (nineteen years ago)

I thought he meant "she's fat", not "she's been exploded with a bomb".

For the record.

― Dan Selzer (Dan Selzer), Tuesday, 6 December 2005 22:54 (nineteen years ago)

Yeah, I figured.

― n/a (Nick A.), Tuesday, 6 December 2005 22:56 (nineteen years ago)

http://the-op.com/ref/qe2.php?ep=306&pg=2

thinks it's "blew up"

― Dan Selzer (Dan Selzer), Tuesday, 6 December 2005 23:01 (nineteen years ago)

Michael: It does seem like you’ve been having a whole lot of trouble since the hair transplants. Maybe you should see a boo-boo-man.
Tobias: A... “bubuman”?
Michael: Oh, uh, a doctor. It’s a British expression. Like they say “go-up box” instead of “elevator.”
Tobias: Oh, like when they say “poofter” to mean “tourist,” yes. Boy, that Rita’s a smarty.

― D.I.Y. U.N.K.L.E. (dave225.3), Wednesday, 7 December 2005 13:28 (nineteen years ago)

2 new episodes back-to-back tonight at 8pm.

― Dan Selzer (Dan Selzer), Monday, 12 December 2005 16:23 (nineteen years ago)

Oh, awesome! I was hoping they'd start doubling them up.

― Matthew C Perpetua (inca), Monday, 12 December 2005 16:28 (nineteen years ago)

That's 7 PM central, for the dumb midwesterners.

― n/a (Nick A.), Monday, 12 December 2005 16:30 (nineteen years ago)

Thanks!

― Huk-L (Huk-L), Monday, 12 December 2005 16:32 (nineteen years ago)

the second one is a 1st season rerun, I think...

Not complainin' or nuthin'....

― D.I.Y. U.N.K.L.E. (dave225.3), Monday, 12 December 2005 16:32 (nineteen years ago)

Oh, that's good to know. I'm busy as hell tonight but I want to catch the new episode.

― Jordan (Jordan), Monday, 12 December 2005 16:38 (nineteen years ago)

oh yeah...actually the first episode is an old one and the 8:30 is new...

― Dan Selzer (Dan Selzer), Monday, 12 December 2005 16:52 (nineteen years ago)

..I think it's the other way around, according to Fox.com

― D.I.Y. U.N.K.L.E. (dave225.3), Monday, 12 December 2005 17:32 (nineteen years ago)

No, the FOX site says "classic Arrested followed by an all new episode."

This must mean Kitchen Confidential is fucked beyond all belief.

― Matthew C Perpetua (inca), Monday, 12 December 2005 17:39 (nineteen years ago)

But they're all classic, no?

― Huk-L (Huk-L), Monday, 12 December 2005 17:42 (nineteen years ago)

Hey! It does say that! Except the actual schedule:
http://www.fox.com/schedule/
says the opposite. ..As did the advertisement for it last night.

Fuckin' Fox.

― D.I.Y. U.N.K.L.E. (dave225.3), Monday, 12 December 2005 17:42 (nineteen years ago)

The new episode is on first here on the east coast.

― Michael F Gill (Michael F Gill), Tuesday, 13 December 2005 01:18 (nineteen years ago)

"I can't spare the moisture" !!

― D.I.Y. U.N.K.L.E. (dave225.3), Tuesday, 13 December 2005 01:28 (nineteen years ago)

worst. episode. ever.

not really, just wanted to be that internet guy.

but yeah, not so good. Some good lines, risqué stuff about vaginal moistness was pretty good. Gob's video with the workers in the background. Prisoner flying away with the jetpack at the end. Tobias in general.

― Dan Selzer (Dan Selzer), Tuesday, 13 December 2005 01:29 (nineteen years ago)

Uncle T-bag.

― D.I.Y. U.N.K.L.E. (dave225.3), Tuesday, 13 December 2005 01:31 (nineteen years ago)

drawing the prison map on his stomach was good too.

― Dan Selzer (Dan Selzer), Tuesday, 13 December 2005 01:47 (nineteen years ago)

I feel dumb, but I didn't get the "powerful lid" line.

― Ross G. (scatter), Tuesday, 13 December 2005 02:17 (nineteen years ago)

"lid" of pot.

― D.I.Y. U.N.K.L.E. (dave225.3), Tuesday, 13 December 2005 02:21 (nineteen years ago)

heh, I figured it had to be a drug reference.

― Ross G. (scatter), Tuesday, 13 December 2005 02:34 (nineteen years ago)

Some great stuff with George Michael in this episode!

George Michael: Oh, I may skip that, I don’t like galas.

Narrator: Actually, he loved galas, all kids do.

― Matthew C Perpetua (inca), Tuesday, 13 December 2005 12:02 (nineteen years ago)

Well, Ron Howard's deliverary is what makes that last line really funny for the most part.

― Matthew C Perpetua (inca), Tuesday, 13 December 2005 12:04 (nineteen years ago)

i'm still laughing about graft vs host.

― AaronK (AaronK), Tuesday, 13 December 2005 13:48 (nineteen years ago)

I thought it was a solid episode, not the best but better than most of this season so far. "I can't spare the moisture" = most disturbing line ever.

― n/a (Nick A.), Tuesday, 13 December 2005 14:52 (nineteen years ago)

i was so-so on the episode, but FOX has officially entered abusive husband levels of cruelty. "you stupid cow, i'm cancelling your show!"; "naw, baby, i didnt mean that, here's two episodes. the first ones an 'all-time classic'. i love you baby."; "i hate you, you stupid low-rated bitch, you're cancelled!"; "aw baby, i didnt mean, that -- i'm even gonna get you a v-cast..."

― PeopleFunnyBoy (PeopleFunnyBoy), Tuesday, 13 December 2005 14:57 (nineteen years ago)

I enjoyed the new episode, but then I laughed out loud pretty much all the way through the "classic" episode, and yeah, those were the days, huh?

― Huk-L (Huk-L), Tuesday, 13 December 2005 15:01 (nineteen years ago)

yeah...I thought calling an episode "classic" and advertising the v-cast thing was crap.

Also...the kids doing the warden's play was pretty good.

― Dan Selzer (Dan Selzer), Tuesday, 13 December 2005 15:36 (nineteen years ago)

Tobias with the long hair kind of reminded me of Ned.

― Lars and Jagger (Ex Leon), Tuesday, 13 December 2005 15:52 (nineteen years ago)

http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20051214/en_nm/arrested_dc

"Showtime may rescue 'Arrested Development'"

― Dan Selzer (Dan Selzer), Wednesday, 14 December 2005 17:36 (nineteen years ago)

http://www.variety.com/article/VR1117934587?categoryid=1238&cs=1&s=h&p=0

ABC may be interested as well.

― Pup E Dawg, Wednesday, 14 December 2005 17:54 (nineteen years ago)

It couldn't do any worse than "Hope and Faith". Or "Freddie", for that matter.

― Lars and Jagger (Ex Leon), Wednesday, 14 December 2005 18:11 (nineteen years ago)

no showtime, please; i'm not going to pick up another premium channel, especially one taht is generally so substandard.

― kyle (akmonday), Wednesday, 14 December 2005 18:12 (nineteen years ago)

As long as they put it out on dvd eventually, I don't care who picks it up.

― Jordan (Jordan), Wednesday, 14 December 2005 18:23 (nineteen years ago)

OTM.
xpost
OTM.

― D.I.Y. U.N.K.L.E. (dave225.3), Wednesday, 14 December 2005 18:25 (nineteen years ago)

Variety just uses shitty made-up slang to look cool, doesn't it?

― Huk-L (Huk-L), Wednesday, 14 December 2005 18:30 (nineteen years ago)

if they did jump to cable I hope they don't get lazy with the writing; maybe the restrictions of broadcast TV are good for them. but I don't know, I still haven't watched this season yet.

― kyle (akmonday), Wednesday, 14 December 2005 18:31 (nineteen years ago)

"feevee cabler"

― kyle (akmonday), Wednesday, 14 December 2005 18:34 (nineteen years ago)

"skein"

WTF

Variety sucks

― kyle (akmonday), Wednesday, 14 December 2005 18:35 (nineteen years ago)

Skein pops net feevee cherrybomb moonves lobsider frivo-lay somsat.

― Huk-L (Huk-L), Wednesday, 14 December 2005 18:35 (nineteen years ago)

They may soon have to resort to pig latin.

― n/a (Nick A.), Wednesday, 14 December 2005 18:39 (nineteen years ago)

Gob's delivery of the "Graft vs. Host: It sounds like a tennis match between Steffi Graf and "Happy Days" star Donny Host" has continued to kill me 2 days later.

― Mugged Outside the Jabberjaw, 1993 (Bent Over at the Arclight), Wednesday, 14 December 2005 20:02 (nineteen years ago)

"It was Donny Most."

― n/a (Nick A.), Wednesday, 14 December 2005 20:03 (nineteen years ago)

Maybe that's why ABC is so interested in it, it might help them remarket Happy Days.

― Huk-L (Huk-L), Wednesday, 14 December 2005 20:07 (nineteen years ago)

Sorry,

Maybe's that's why Alphabet Web is boffo for skein, freevee wobble coopacet flimabizzo.

― Huk-L (Huk-L), Wednesday, 14 December 2005 20:09 (nineteen years ago)

They are really working the emotional side of Job this season.

― Michael F Gill (Michael F Gill), Tuesday, 20 December 2005 01:27 (nineteen years ago)

That was pretty good.

― Jordan (Jordan), Tuesday, 20 December 2005 01:39 (nineteen years ago)

They are maybe getting too caught up in the call-backs in the recent episodes. There's fewer and fewer new jokes compared to the references to ones from previous episodes. It's still really funny, but I can't imagine it being good for people who aren't way into the show.

However, the implied bit about GOB and Anne was AMAZING.

"I just want her to renounce God and fuck me."

― Matthew C Perpetua (inca), Tuesday, 20 December 2005 01:40 (nineteen years ago)

Haha, it didn't occur to me that he was talking about Anne.

― Jordan (Jordan), Tuesday, 20 December 2005 01:47 (nineteen years ago)

I didn't like this episode that much. I love the show, but the classic-to-dud ratio is distressingly high this season. I agree that they're relying a little too much on callbacks. This episode was essentially the "lesson" episode from Season 1 all over again, but not nearly as good.

― PeopleFunnyBoy (PeopleFunnyBoy), Tuesday, 20 December 2005 02:03 (nineteen years ago)

I liked a lot about this episode.

― Huk-L (Huk-L), Tuesday, 20 December 2005 02:06 (nineteen years ago)

"her?"

― cutty (mcutt), Tuesday, 20 December 2005 02:33 (nineteen years ago)

It did pale in comparison to the "Buster loses a hand" episode that they showed afterwards.

― Jordan (Jordan), Tuesday, 20 December 2005 02:38 (nineteen years ago)

man, I have found the past two episodes to be two of the worst yet, which is odd considering I thought they'd get better after Rita left. I'm really hoping these episodes will improve considerably on repeat viewings (which I will probably not get a chance to do until the Season 3 DVDs come out). Agree with Matthew C re: overreliance on callbacks and I agree with PFB about this not being nearly as good as the [i]first[/i] lesson episode (from season one), even if the lessons were much more complex this time around.

Best part was "Bob Loblaw's law blog".

― Ross G. (scatter), Tuesday, 20 December 2005 05:44 (nineteen years ago)

I think the high ratio of callbacks to original jokes might have something to do with the knowledge of being cancelled, i.e. "Let's make the last episodes really tie to the rest to make it seem more like a whole." Does that make sense? I see it as similar to letting Sam date Cindy Sanders on "Freaks and Geeks" - another brilliant show - towards the end of its single season run when the creators knew it would be cancelled.

Also, Huk, amazing job at the Variety slang, xpost.

― regular roundups (Dave M), Tuesday, 20 December 2005 07:45 (nineteen years ago)

No.

― Lars and Jagger (Ex Leon), Tuesday, 20 December 2005 12:35 (nineteen years ago)

Actually, I see it as being more like them taking the fact that lots of fans enjoy the call backs and the "self-contained world" aspect of the show, and them running with it a little too much because it's easier to riff on things than to come up with entirely new things. A good example is when GOB says "cirsumvent" as he did in "Amigos" - I got a good laugh out of it, but it's kinda cheap and doesn't really add anything to the episode other than letting people in the audience go "I remember that gag!" I prefer it when they build on the old gags, as they have alway done with Anne.

― Matthew C Perpetua (inca), Tuesday, 20 December 2005 14:22 (nineteen years ago)

Also, this was the last episode they made before they got the reduced order, so all the references to that situation will come in the next five episodes.

― Matthew C Perpetua (inca), Tuesday, 20 December 2005 14:24 (nineteen years ago)

i'm hopeful that the next few, the ones that ref. the cancellation, will be back on point. i feel like the Charlize arc -- with the introduction of Bob Loblaw, the surrogate, and the bit about the mole -- were definitely the peaks of this (admittedly short) season so far.

― PeopleFunnyBoy (PeopleFunnyBoy), Tuesday, 20 December 2005 16:44 (nineteen years ago)

Good point Matthew. xpost

― regular roundups (Dave M), Tuesday, 20 December 2005 18:01 (nineteen years ago)

Jason Bateman to star in an upcoming episode of Scrubs.

― Huk-L (Huk-L), Tuesday, 20 December 2005 18:04 (nineteen years ago)

the show is so much better when it doesn't pretend to have a plot/arc! (i liked last night's episode)

― Jams Murphy (ystrickler), Tuesday, 20 December 2005 18:07 (nineteen years ago)

I loved last nights episode.

I forgot about Cirsumvent but still laughed, proving the joke still works (the joke being Gob's an idiot and michael fed him the dialogue).

But I loved the episode, for real. And was the name of the horror film at the end Gangey (or whatever it its Maebey called Lucille?)

I feel like they're throwing in more and more jokes, last night was really dense. they don't all stick but did I mention I loved last nights episode?

― Dan Selzer (Dan Selzer), Tuesday, 20 December 2005 21:03 (nineteen years ago)

~ The Mexican workers laughing about how a clearly-too-old-Buster would cry for "Leche de Madre" was hilarious, if creepy.
~ The aforementioned Law Blog was genius.
~ I like how the jetpack is becoming a callback (in the montage of still photos of the banana stand-off).
~ I kind of wished there was a callback to GOB's proposed Banana Stand mascot, Baby Banana Grabber, since it was the perfect chance for him to realize that dream.
~ I thought this episode was hilarious!

― Mugged Outside the Jabberjaw, 1993 (Bent Over at the Arclight), Wednesday, 21 December 2005 00:30 (nineteen years ago)

[deleting lengthy cut & paste garbage]

― Good show, Wednesday, 21 December 2005 00:32 (nineteen years ago)

The aforementioned Law Blog was genius.

Yeah, this was great. I was surprised at the number of people down on this episode because I thought it was pretty strong.

― Lars and Jagger (Ex Leon), Wednesday, 21 December 2005 00:40 (nineteen years ago)

liked how GOB's "it's not easy being white" kept playing inadvertently...much better episode than last wk.

...is there any explanation the term 'callback' is being used again and again to describe something self-referential happening?...for some reason it sounds creepy and faux-insider-speak to me(just occurred to me: was it on some dvd commentary, then?)

― Jimmy_tango, Wednesday, 21 December 2005 03:27 (nineteen years ago)

my fave joke = the painters asking "will this be scripted or improv? He was in the Groundlings".

― Dan Selzer (Dan Selzer), Wednesday, 21 December 2005 05:01 (nineteen years ago)

xpost to Jimmy

"Callback" is a term I first learned doing improv, but I don't think it's any kind of secret. In fact, I think it's pretty intuitive, and that's why people who are just describing comedic performances use it as well.

― regular roundups (Dave M), Wednesday, 21 December 2005 17:59 (nineteen years ago)

I have been in Germany since the beginning of the fall season and trying to keep up with this show while I am away. Does anyone know where I can get the latest episode? I have up to 307.

― Brighid (Brighid), Thursday, 22 December 2005 17:47 (nineteen years ago)

why did I just see an ad on fox for tonight's AD feat. an all-star cast to help "save arrested development" and this is the first time I've seen this? I'm sure I watched tv last week...

― Dan Selzer (Dan Selzer), Tuesday, 3 January 2006 00:09 (nineteen years ago)

"S.O.B." tonight!

― Matthew C Perpetua (inca), Tuesday, 3 January 2006 00:26 (nineteen years ago)

this is getting way too meta!

― Dan Selzer (Dan Selzer), Tuesday, 3 January 2006 01:04 (nineteen years ago)

Yeah I just saw that commercial today too!

The opening scene was totally shameless (fun), if a bit obvious that this is the first episode filmed after the reduced order.

Why not just put it after American Idol? For like 2 weeks.
big xpost

― Michael F Gill (Michael F Gill), Tuesday, 3 January 2006 01:20 (nineteen years ago)

this is such a great episode so far

― Jams Murphy (ystrickler), Tuesday, 3 January 2006 01:20 (nineteen years ago)

"big xpost" = that should have been posted after the first commercial break.

I have to say the meta absurdity of this episode is kind of entertaining.

― Michael F Gill (Michael F Gill), Tuesday, 3 January 2006 01:22 (nineteen years ago)

that was fucking ridiculous.. and the live ending? wtf?

― cutty (mcutt), Tuesday, 3 January 2006 01:29 (nineteen years ago)

So, wait, is this really the last one?

Also, I think the live ending was a put-on.

― PeopleFunnyBoy (PeopleFunnyBoy), Tuesday, 3 January 2006 01:31 (nineteen years ago)

By "last one", I mean "last one that's airing?"

― PeopleFunnyBoy (PeopleFunnyBoy), Tuesday, 3 January 2006 01:31 (nineteen years ago)

why the hell isn't http://www.saveourbluths.org/ working?

what was the racist line the old woman told, it had me cracking up...

― Dan Selzer (Dan Selzer), Tuesday, 3 January 2006 01:37 (nineteen years ago)

"Slap the black off a telegram boy"

― PeopleFunnyBoy (PeopleFunnyBoy), Tuesday, 3 January 2006 01:38 (nineteen years ago)

another line that had me cracking up:

"It's called a Cap-a-keeen-o! And wait 'till you see how much it costs!"

― PeopleFunnyBoy (PeopleFunnyBoy), Tuesday, 3 January 2006 01:40 (nineteen years ago)

"Forget HBO, It's show time."

― Michael F Gill (Michael F Gill), Tuesday, 3 January 2006 03:07 (nineteen years ago)

This was easily one of the best episodes of the series! So so so good.

― Matthew C Perpetua (inca), Tuesday, 3 January 2006 03:20 (nineteen years ago)

SaveOurBluths.com

― Matthew C Perpetua (inca), Tuesday, 3 January 2006 03:23 (nineteen years ago)

I thought it was org and couldn't get it!

Another good, quick line

Tobias: He has Obsessive Compulsive Disease, or what we in the (lighter arts? can't recall) call the OC Disease

Michael: Don't call it that.

― Dan Selzer (Dan Selzer), Tuesday, 3 January 2006 04:17 (nineteen years ago)

good episode.
michael absolutely ignoring it when george michael admits his love for maebe.

― Special Agent Gene Krupa (orion), Tuesday, 3 January 2006 05:09 (nineteen years ago)

George Michael's mumbling after "My son expresses himself just fine, isn't that right George Michael?" or whatever was perfect.

― Jordan (Jordan), Tuesday, 3 January 2006 05:12 (nineteen years ago)

"Soft sciences"

― Huk-L (Huk-L), Tuesday, 3 January 2006 06:07 (nineteen years ago)

Also, this episode contained a really disturbing instance of (hopefully) synchronicity w/r/t to ME. Perhaps the two letters I have ever written to Fox have been read and they decided to freak me the fuck out tonight.

― Huk-L (Huk-L), Tuesday, 3 January 2006 06:11 (nineteen years ago)

Dumb move to put it against King of Queens. Not surprised. It is Fox and they are dumb.

― Lazy Dog, Tuesday, 3 January 2006 06:20 (nineteen years ago)

FOX: Take a clue from how NBC marketed "My Name's Earl." Arrested Development is a show that many people would probably feel lost upon finding an episode or two, but if you play it incessantly for a month and advertise the hell out of it, eventually people will "get it." I think that Earl show is taking off and it SUCKS. Arrested Development is on par with an HBO show (better than regular tv).

― Lazy Dog, Tuesday, 3 January 2006 06:24 (nineteen years ago)

Home Builders' Organization?

― Huk-L (Huk-L), Tuesday, 3 January 2006 06:25 (nineteen years ago)

Home Box Office.

http://growabrain.typepad.com/photos/uncategorized/elvis_brain.jpg
http://www.pensitoreview.com/images/photo-get-a-brain-morans.jpg

― Lazy Dog, Tuesday, 3 January 2006 06:33 (nineteen years ago)

Um...

― Huk-L (Huk-L), Tuesday, 3 January 2006 14:30 (nineteen years ago)

Is King of Queens that popular?

― Roxymuzak, Mrs. Carbohydrate (roxymuzak), Tuesday, 3 January 2006 14:34 (nineteen years ago)

They don't call him the KING for nothing.

― Huk-L (Huk-L), Tuesday, 3 January 2006 14:36 (nineteen years ago)

you sent letters filled with confetti/sparkles to fox? you are a fucking lunatic.

― cutty (mcutt), Tuesday, 3 January 2006 14:51 (nineteen years ago)

I've made a huge mistake.

― Huk-L (Huk-L), Tuesday, 3 January 2006 14:52 (nineteen years ago)

User "Huk-L" has been added to your list of weirdo ILXors.

― cutty (mcutt), Tuesday, 3 January 2006 14:54 (nineteen years ago)

Is King of Queens that popular?

Pretty damned popular at #15, yes. Obser-ev: http://tv.yahoo.com/nielsen/

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Where do you think Arrested Development stands? December of 2004 it was 74th place and I don't think it did much better (if at all) this year.

― Lazy Dog, Tuesday, 3 January 2006 15:54 (nineteen years ago)

I think my favorite bit in the episode was that scene with Lindsay serving Buster the hot ham water. I love the look of pride on Lindsay's face!

― Matthew C Perpetua (inca), Tuesday, 3 January 2006 21:00 (nineteen years ago)

I liked the quick sing-songy "Mr. F!" when Donny Richter told George Michael that students can get an F for "Fluctuating in learning."

(Funny callback to a mostly unfunny joke works to redeem that earlier belabored bit!)

― Mugged Outside the Jabberjaw, 1993 (Bent Over at the Arclight), Wednesday, 4 January 2006 01:13 (nineteen years ago)

I think my favorite callback was "Chareth Richter, the flirt."

― Matthew C Perpetua (inca), Wednesday, 4 January 2006 02:48 (nineteen years ago)

the best was Buster's response to the hot ham water, something like "mmm, with a hint of ham!" or something.

― Dan Selzer (Dan Selzer), Wednesday, 4 January 2006 04:14 (nineteen years ago)

this episode fucking sucked. surprise.

based on this season, AD deserves to be cancelled.

― mark p (Mark P), Wednesday, 4 January 2006 04:20 (nineteen years ago)

"a smack of ham"

― cutty (mcutt), Wednesday, 4 January 2006 04:52 (nineteen years ago)

"mmm, it's so watery... with just a hint of ham!"

"it's hot ham water!"

(cutty may be right, he might've said "smack of ham")

I haven't been laughing too hysterically over AD lately and have actually opted for King of Queens probably most of the time this season. Both shows got moved around so much I lost track of them, so when I finally found King of Queens again, I was pretty happy to watch it. It's not a bad show at all, just a little dumbed down in the same way Cheers, Seinfeld, Friends and Will & Grace are. Arrested Development, by comparison, is a little too fast at times and can make it seem trying too hard. AD also has that Scrubs cartoon humor where impossible things happen (like a tomato being thrown as soon as he suggests they get jobs).

― Lazy Dog, Wednesday, 4 January 2006 14:55 (nineteen years ago)

Buster: I’m so hungry.

Lindsay: Would you like to try some of this?

Buster: It’s so watery. And yet there’s a smack of ham to it.

Lindsay: It’s hot ham water.

― Matthew C Perpetua (inca), Wednesday, 4 January 2006 15:12 (nineteen years ago)

Was Andy Richter wearing the Oscar wig when he was Donny?

― Huk-L (Huk-L), Wednesday, 4 January 2006 15:13 (nineteen years ago)

It's not a bad show at all, just a little dumbed down in the same way Cheers, Seinfeld, Friends and Will & Grace are.

...

― Lars and Jagger (Ex Leon), Wednesday, 4 January 2006 15:16 (nineteen years ago)

this JUST moved...

Lame duck TV show Arrested Development pulls out all the stops
By Jake Coyle
NEW YORK (AP) — It’s only fitting that Arrested Development, the most self-referential show on TV, would go down chronicling its own demise.
The TV comedy is essentially a lame duck after Fox announced in November that it wouldn’t order a full third season — broadcasting 13 episodes instead of 22. Though an Emmy-winning critical hit, its ratings have been paltry, averaging fewer than five million viewers this season.
Monday night’s episode blatantly parodied the show’s situation.
“The Bluths were desperate,” the narrator (Ron Howard, the Oscar-winning director and one of show’s executive producers) intoned about the show’s hyper-dysfunctional family.
“The press had them all but finished.”
Michael Bluth, played by Jason Bateman, then announced: “If we want a chance of keeping this family going past the next few weeks, we’re going to have to pull out all the stops.”
The episode — the ninth of the season — at various points pretended to be 3-D, trotted out celebrities including Andy Richter, Ben Stiller and Zach Braff, and turned into a pseudo-live broadcast.
The plot involved a fundraiser for the family’s legal bills — a veiled plea for the show itself. Though such a premise could be expected to rile network executives, Fox spokesman Scott Grogin said the network didn’t have a problem with the show.
“Our backs are against the wall and it’s really come to begging,” Michael Bluth said — which the narrator immediately followed with: “Please tell your friends about this show.”
The second season of Arrested Development was also cut from 22 episodes, to 18. Fox appealed for support for the program and the website www.SaveOurBluths.com was founded.
In May, the network surprised many by not only renewing Arrested for a third season, but moving it to 8 p.m. on Mondays — a move Fox Entertainment President Peter Liguori called “audacious.”
“We have confidence in the show,” Liguori said at the time.
With Fox’s November announcement, Arrested has been rumoured for a possible move to cable — and even that development was satirized in an exchange between Jeffrey Tambor’s George Bluth Sr. and Bateman’s Michael.
“I don’t think the Home Builders Organization is going to support us,” George says.
“Yeah, the HBO is not going to want us,” replies Michael. “What are we going to do?”
“I think it’s show time,” George then says.
Chris Alexander, a spokesman for 20th Century Fox, which produces the show, said both Showtime and ABC have expressed interest in Arrested Development, but no deal has yet been reached.
The show has won six Emmys and one Golden Globe, but some critics have suggested it’s too zany to keep up with and the upper-class characters aren’t “relatable” to audiences.
In a concluding speech on Monday’s show, Bateman even acknowledges that by saying: “We’ve been given plenty of chances, and maybe the Bluths just aren’t worth saving, maybe we’re not that likable. We’re very self-centred.”

― Huk-L (Huk-L), Wednesday, 4 January 2006 15:21 (nineteen years ago)

It's not a bad show at all, just a little dumbed down in the same way Cheers, Seinfeld, Friends and Will & Grace are.
...

-- Lars and Jagger (nicole.kessle...), January 4th, 2006.

Ha,ha,ha! I always love how elitist tube watchers "never watch" the shows they hate. How many shows are instantly likeable? About zero?

― Lazy Dog, Wednesday, 4 January 2006 16:51 (nineteen years ago)

I don't see any similarities between the four shows you listed together, sorry.

― Lars and Jagger (Ex Leon), Wednesday, 4 January 2006 16:53 (nineteen years ago)

I don't see any similarities between the four shows you listed together, sorry.

They're dumbed down for nonbrainiacs, which is why people often are repelled by sitcoms.

― Lazy Dog, Wednesday, 4 January 2006 16:57 (nineteen years ago)

so are you saying that People are Brainiacs?

― Huk-L (Huk-L), Wednesday, 4 January 2006 16:59 (nineteen years ago)

Seinfeld and Cheers plots were often simple, but that's not the same as being dumbed down.

― Lars and Jagger (Ex Leon), Wednesday, 4 January 2006 16:59 (nineteen years ago)

...and there was nothing really complex about Friends that required dumbing down, you know?

― Lars and Jagger (Ex Leon), Wednesday, 4 January 2006 17:00 (nineteen years ago)

I don't see any similarities between the four shows you listed together, sorry.

Norm, Cliff = Kramer, George

Seinfeld = "about nothing", Friends = "about nothing"

Cheers = "sit around in a bar", Friends = "sit around in a coffee shop"

George's dad (Stiller) = same exact character on King of Queens

Uncle Leo (from Seinfeld) = same exact character on Raymond and King of Queens, I think? Definitely on Raymond, at least.

Will & Grace = dumb, unrealistic jokes like all the rest.

― Lazy Dog, Wednesday, 4 January 2006 17:01 (nineteen years ago)

They are all very similar shows. What they are NOT similar to are shows on UPN or WB.

― Lazy Dog, Wednesday, 4 January 2006 17:02 (nineteen years ago)

go away

― mark p (Mark P), Wednesday, 4 January 2006 17:03 (nineteen years ago)

Fuck off, asshole

― lazy Dog, Wednesday, 4 January 2006 17:05 (nineteen years ago)

Great article on Michael Cera:
http://www.canada.com/nationalpost/news/artslife/story.html?id=c6abbc16-63ed-4ada-bed8-20893c3e832e

― Huk-L (Huk-L), Wednesday, 4 January 2006 17:36 (nineteen years ago)

I don't see any similarities between the four shows you listed together, sorry.

Don't all four of those have audible laughter either as a laugh track or live audience?

― mike h. (mike h.), Wednesday, 4 January 2006 23:46 (nineteen years ago)

Not to mention the similar cookie-cutter style of jokes and pacing (and all the other obvious stuff I already mentioned. I mean, come off it. Jerry Stiller!)

― Lazy Dog, Thursday, 5 January 2006 00:01 (nineteen years ago)

Haha, eat it!

http://www.tv.com/seinfeld/show/112/summary.html

Similar Shows
If you like Seinfeld, you may also like:

Curb Your Enthusiasm

Friends

Rodney

Everybody Loves Raymond

The King of Queens

Will & Grace

(Gee whiz, like every single one I mentioned!)

― Lazy Dog, Thursday, 5 January 2006 00:13 (nineteen years ago)

Impressive.

― Lars and Jagger (Ex Leon), Thursday, 5 January 2006 00:14 (nineteen years ago)

To a moron who never noticed the similarities himself, perhaps.

― Lazy Dog, Thursday, 5 January 2006 00:17 (nineteen years ago)

is lazy dog the same asshole on the Dave Q Yes thread? that lame self-congratulatory smugness (along the lines of a toddler saying, look ma, i soiled my diaper!) seems identical.

― i am not a nugget (stevie), Thursday, 5 January 2006 00:33 (nineteen years ago)

So was Monday's episode the last one? I thought they were airing 13 this season and have only shown 9 so far, but Fox's website doesn't show it listed for the rest of January.

― darin (darin), Thursday, 5 January 2006 00:35 (nineteen years ago)

is lazy dog the same asshole on the Dave Q Yes thread? that lame self-congratulatory smugness (along the lines of a toddler saying, look ma, i soiled my diaper!) seems identical.

Better to be smug for an actual reason, don't you think?

― Lazy Dog, Thursday, 5 January 2006 00:50 (nineteen years ago)

If you like TV, you may also like Television.

― Huk-L (Huk-L), Thursday, 5 January 2006 01:58 (nineteen years ago)

Huk OTM. All sitcoms have something in common. This does not make Lazy Dog's examples any less... well... lazy.

― Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Thursday, 5 January 2006 02:12 (nineteen years ago)

What is "Rodney"?

― Huk-L (Huk-L), Thursday, 5 January 2006 02:14 (nineteen years ago)

xpost: Hardly more lazy than all your lazy asses' simple and empty retorts.

― Lazy Dog, Thursday, 5 January 2006 02:21 (nineteen years ago)

I applaud yr tenacity.

― Eager Beaver, Thursday, 5 January 2006 02:41 (nineteen years ago)

Was this on last night? I totally forgot to watch!

― Huk-L (Huk-L), Tuesday, 10 January 2006 16:17 (nineteen years ago)

Oh shit, I totally forgot as well.

― Jordan (Jordan), Tuesday, 10 January 2006 16:23 (nineteen years ago)

No, it was a rerun of the poorly accented House.

― Lars and Jagger (Ex Leon), Tuesday, 10 January 2006 16:25 (nineteen years ago)

Sweet.

― Jordan (Jordan), Tuesday, 10 January 2006 16:25 (nineteen years ago)

is it ever coming back or does replacing it with two reruns of another show back to back signal their finally removing it from the schedule completely?

― kyle (akmonday), Tuesday, 10 January 2006 16:36 (nineteen years ago)

It's hard to tell - it's not on the schedule for a little while, but there's a good shot at Fox filling in some gaps with the unaired episodes sometime between now and May.

― Matthew C Perpetua (inca), Tuesday, 10 January 2006 16:58 (nineteen years ago)

I can see them burning those episodes off on Friday nights, actually.

― Matthew C Perpetua (inca), Tuesday, 10 January 2006 16:59 (nineteen years ago)

i like how they haven't bothered to change the fox website which still says new episodes air every monday. fuckos.

― kyle (akmonday), Tuesday, 10 January 2006 17:48 (nineteen years ago)

this thread just made me realize that i taped a half hour of house last night.

― spastic heritage (spastic heritage), Tuesday, 10 January 2006 19:41 (nineteen years ago)

Will Arnett was just on Conan. Totally hilarious segment. He said "we're not shooting any more" and at the end Conan said "the Season Finale airs February 10th."

― Dan Selzer (Dan Selzer), Saturday, 14 January 2006 06:08 (nineteen years ago)

Will Arnett was just on Conan

GOD DAMN IT!!!!!!

― killy (baby lenin pin), Saturday, 14 January 2006 06:11 (nineteen years ago)

The Arnet bits were great though, he was really cynical and Conan kept saying "you're a horrible, horrible man". They showed a clip from Will's new show, which wasn't a real show and was shot on Conan's set, then they to prove it Conan showed security footage of them shooting the show on his set, including Will taking his pants off and rubbing his ass on Conan's chair. Conan then asked him about the great cast and will seemed sincere at first then turned it into a bit "oh yeah, they're wonderful, really great people to work with, I have fond, great, hazy, memories, like that guy that I work with, the main guy, yeah, what's his name" and Conan says "Jason Batemen" and Will says "yeah, that guy, I seem to remember him being ok, and that old guy, balding.." and Conan says "you mean Jeffrey Tambor?" and Will says, "Yeah, Tamborn, he was ok".

Later Chris Parnel came on and they did a bit about how Chris works with Will wife (SNL's Amy Poehler) and Chris was like "actually, we had a bit recently where we had to make out a bit, in a closet, it was cut from the show though" and Will's all like "really? she didn't mention that" and Chris is like "she has some lips on her...sexy lady" and Will's like "what, wait" and Chris is all "my bad!"

It was pretty great. I think it's one of those weak nights where they can't get huge guests so they get a friend and someone from SNL, but it ended up being two great interviews. Mostly because Will did his entire interview as a bit. It ended with him doing air guitar to the theme to Law and Order, which he's done before apparently.

― Dan Selzer (Dan Selzer), Saturday, 14 January 2006 15:16 (nineteen years ago)

Oh I wished I watched this!

― Huk-L (Huk-L), Saturday, 14 January 2006 19:39 (nineteen years ago)

I just downloaded it! yaay! (mininova, mangs)

― rrrobyn (rrrobyn), Saturday, 14 January 2006 21:33 (nineteen years ago)

the old clip, and Parnell's part are on youtube:

http://www.youtube.com/results.php?search=will+arnett&search_videos=Search+Videos

― Dan Selzer (Dan Selzer), Saturday, 14 January 2006 21:45 (nineteen years ago)

They are airing the final four episodes in a 2-hour block on Feb. 10, opposite the opening ceremonies of the Winter Olympics.

― Binjominia (Brilhante), Sunday, 15 January 2006 00:36 (nineteen years ago)

The air guitaring actually made me slap my thigh while laughing. It hurt. But was worth it.

a 2-hour block? crazy.

― rrrobyn (rrrobyn), Sunday, 15 January 2006 03:18 (nineteen years ago)

did you just see the clip or last nights conan, because when he reprised it on conan last night, it was like 100 time funnier then that clip!

― Dan Selzer (Dan Selzer), Sunday, 15 January 2006 04:12 (nineteen years ago)

oh, i totally watched the whole thing!
the other thing my friend and I noticed while watching: Will Arnett is hott.

― rrrobyn (rrrobyn), Sunday, 15 January 2006 04:32 (nineteen years ago)

Oh, I forgot to add in how great this bit was, from the Conan show, and as it just popped into my head and is causing laughriots, I feel it necessary to say:

GIMMEABREAKSVILLE!

― rrrobyn (rrrobyn), Monday, 16 January 2006 16:44 (nineteen years ago)

WA is Canadian, right? Is Tony Hale Cdn too? I know Michael Cera is.

― Huk-L (Huk-L), Monday, 16 January 2006 16:49 (nineteen years ago)

From Global's site:
Cast of Characters - Michael Cera of Brampton, Will Arnett of Toronto, Tony Hale, David Cross, Alia Shawkat, Jason Bateman, Jeffrey Tambor, Portia de Rossi and Jessica Walter

So, I guess, nope. (He was brilliant this season! and past seasons, but maybe differently so.)

― rrrobyn (rrrobyn), Monday, 16 January 2006 16:56 (nineteen years ago)

I think that Volkswagen ad somehow made me think he was Cdn.
Anyway, at dinner at my parents' last night, my younger brother (Buster) (I guess I'm Michael, but feel awful about it, which only makes me more Michael)(We have a vain, goofy liberal sister and another brother who is something of a cad and tangentially employed in showbiz as a performer), decided that we're okay with the end of AD, since, y'know, Will Arnett's star can only rise now, and certainly others will do well post-AD, and maybe there will be three or four new shows to enjoy next year as the cast and crew scatter.
Also discussed: AD must be the most expensive network sitcom on the air right now, and probably no studio/network wants another "Friends" thing where everybody stomps off the set and demands a loony amt of $$$ per episode.

― Huk-L (Huk-L), Monday, 16 January 2006 17:03 (nineteen years ago)

I feel kind of stalkerish knowing this (my friend showed me...honest) but:

mike cera: http://www.myspace.com/mikecera
alia shawkat: http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewprofile&friendID=36865985

Also: spoiler images from upcoming episode: http://justjared.blogspot.com/2006/01/william-hung-arrested-development.html

― tylero (tylero), Tuesday, 17 January 2006 02:27 (nineteen years ago)

http://www.youtube.com/w/Will-Arnett-on-Conan?v=cGoA_K7itO8&feature=Views&page=1&t=t&f=b

Will on Conan as mentioned above.

― Dan Selzer (Dan Selzer), Tuesday, 17 January 2006 04:12 (nineteen years ago)

Michael Cera is a pretty good writer for a 17 year old.

"I LOVE to respect women."

― Matthew C Perpetua (inca), Tuesday, 17 January 2006 04:30 (nineteen years ago)

From TVGuide.com http://www.tvguide.com/News/AskAusiello/ :

Question: Do you have any information about Arrested Development? — Willie

Ausiello: The grapevine (and the current issue of Television Week) is telling me that Showtime recently sweetened the negotiations pot by offering to pick up Arrested for two — count 'em, two — seasons upfront. That's a lot better than the paltry 13-episode commitment ABC was prepared to make. Meanwhile, at press tour on Tuesday, Fox president Peter Liguori confirmed that it is "highly unlikely" that Arrested will live on at Fox (no, really?), although he said he's holding off on making a final decision until after the show's last four episodes air in February. "It is regrettable that we did not find the audience that that show deserved. But it's a [Twentieth] property, and if there is interest from other networks, it's the studio's right to put it up to bid."

― Huk-L (Huk-L), Wednesday, 18 January 2006 15:20 (nineteen years ago)

I will subscribe to Showtime if this actually happens, and that's something I never thought I'd do! Watching it via torrent would feel like cheating somehow.

― Lars and Jagger (Ex Leon), Wednesday, 18 January 2006 15:25 (nineteen years ago)

Is Louis CK's new show going to be on Showtime or HBO? I guess it doesn't matter since neither of them are available in Canada. But if the Conservatives win next week's election, I might as well move to the USA anyway.

― Huk-L (Huk-L), Wednesday, 18 January 2006 15:33 (nineteen years ago)

agh, I haven't even been awake for an hour and I already have three tirades in my head: 1) cable tv vs the internets and all that entails, an argument which is partly spurred by the so-called lack of audience for AD, 2) Canada vs the Conservative Party, 3) me vs the crappy crappy cold+rainy weather today.

― rrrobyn (rrrobyn), Wednesday, 18 January 2006 15:45 (nineteen years ago)

I feel as though I should bake you cookies to make up for (partly) causing two of yr three headaches.

― Huk-L (Huk-L), Wednesday, 18 January 2006 15:48 (nineteen years ago)

mike cera:http://www.myspace.com/mikecera
alia shawkat: http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewprofile&friendID=36865985

oh my god, i just messaged mike cera and told him that i loved him! AHHHHHH

― killy (baby lenin pin), Wednesday, 18 January 2006 15:52 (nineteen years ago)

Dear Killy,
Thank you sooooooo much for your message. I would love to respect you sometime if you're ever in the Brampton area.

yrs,
MC

― Huk-L (Huk-L), Wednesday, 18 January 2006 15:55 (nineteen years ago)

oh, I blame you for the weather too, Huk. (WHO'S TO BLAME?!) I'm in the mood for peanut butter-chocolate chip please.
xingposting

― rrrobyn (rrrobyn), Wednesday, 18 January 2006 15:57 (nineteen years ago)

I would love to respect you sometime if you're ever in the Brampton area.

SWOOOOOOOOONY SWOON

― killy (baby lenin pin), Wednesday, 18 January 2006 16:12 (nineteen years ago)

Is Louis CK's new show going to be on Showtime or HBO?

Lucky Louis is going to be on HBO this year.

― Matthew C Perpetua (inca), Wednesday, 18 January 2006 16:45 (nineteen years ago)

Okay, so I need to either a) Move to USA and get a good job fast so's I can get fancy cable or b) figure out how to steal TV on my computer. Being extremely lazy...

― Huk-L (Huk-L), Wednesday, 18 January 2006 16:53 (nineteen years ago)

b) figure out how to steal TV on my computer.

It's really not hard. I mean, if I can do it...

― Lars and Jagger (Ex Leon), Wednesday, 18 January 2006 17:39 (nineteen years ago)

I need to figure this out, too.

― jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 18 January 2006 17:42 (nineteen years ago)

http://wiki.theppn.org/index.php/BitTorrent_Tutorial

― Lars and Jagger (Ex Leon), Wednesday, 18 January 2006 17:51 (nineteen years ago)

I bet George Michael and Maebe are behind the bus crash.

― Lars and Jagger (Ex Leon), Friday, 20 January 2006 00:13 (nineteen years ago)

I love this about the show - that those two actors really are 16 AND so awesome!

― rrrobyn (rrrobyn), Friday, 20 January 2006 00:23 (nineteen years ago)

Te Amo Marta!

te amo.....

― Joe (Joe), Monday, 23 January 2006 02:46 (nineteen years ago)

"It is the poor carpenter, who blames his shoddy tools on {sizzling flesh} JES[BLEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEP].....Oh!....Cornballing piece of sh[BLEEP]!!!"

― Joe (Joe), Tuesday, 24 January 2006 00:30 (nineteen years ago)

There wasn't a new episode tonight, right?

― Jordan (Jordan), Tuesday, 24 January 2006 03:37 (nineteen years ago)

right.

― Ross G. (scatter), Tuesday, 24 January 2006 04:52 (nineteen years ago)

two weeks pass...

season finale tonight, yes? TWO HOURS!!
i havent been following the tv news. is this the end of ad?

― sunny successor (katharine), Friday, 10 February 2006 14:43 (nineteen years ago)

7-9pm central. i dont know what that means for the rest of you.

― sunny successor (katharine), Friday, 10 February 2006 14:44 (nineteen years ago)

It's the end of AD on Fox (who, by putting the episodes in a block opposite the opening of the olympics, is not only killing it but poking it with a broom). There are likely talks with other networks in progress, which is why no one will say for certain who they are talking with. Will Arnett leaked on TDS last night that they may be moving to Al Jazeera.

― Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Friday, 10 February 2006 14:46 (nineteen years ago)

The official language in the promos is "Season Finale" rather than ULTIMATE AD DESTRUCTION GEORGE MICHAEL RAMPAGE, so who knows. And Justine Batman gueststars!

― Huk-L (Huk-L), Friday, 10 February 2006 14:51 (nineteen years ago)

I'm pretty psyched!

― Matthew C Perpetua (inca), Friday, 10 February 2006 14:55 (nineteen years ago)

Richard Belzer!!!

― adam (adam), Saturday, 11 February 2006 02:13 (nineteen years ago)

this is making my packing much more tolerable!

― tehresa (tehresa), Saturday, 11 February 2006 02:42 (nineteen years ago)

This 4th episode is much better than the previous 3.

― adam (adam), Saturday, 11 February 2006 02:44 (nineteen years ago)

definitely, although the saddam's were funny.

― tehresa (tehresa), Saturday, 11 February 2006 02:46 (nineteen years ago)

So. Much. Plot.

― Michael F Gill (Michael F Gill), Saturday, 11 February 2006 02:57 (nineteen years ago)

Ok, wait, that last episode ended up amazing.

― adam (adam), Saturday, 11 February 2006 02:59 (nineteen years ago)

I liked the Justine Bateman one as much as any of them. The weakest was the first, and the rest were all class.

― Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Saturday, 11 February 2006 03:05 (nineteen years ago)

the only one of these that didn't seem quite as up to par was the first one - the other three were among the best ever. what a way to go out.

i wonder if Lost is going to have an Arrested Development reference, as to Veronica Mars having a Lost reference and Arrested having a Veronica reference. Then again, Arrested name drops quite a few shows

― lemin (lemin), Saturday, 11 February 2006 03:07 (nineteen years ago)

the anne/gob hookup was awesome

― tehresa (tehresa), Saturday, 11 February 2006 03:07 (nineteen years ago)

it's all over....

Arrested Development, Rest in Peace.

― Dan Selzer (Dan Selzer), Saturday, 11 February 2006 03:09 (nineteen years ago)

loved 'em all, esp. the Justine Bateman one

― Thomas Tallis (Tommy), Saturday, 11 February 2006 03:25 (nineteen years ago)

That was great. Especially the last one, but it was all a funny blur.

Gary Cole!

― Jordan (Jordan), Saturday, 11 February 2006 03:36 (nineteen years ago)

"George Bush Doesn't Like Black Puppets" :).

― svend (svend), Saturday, 11 February 2006 04:49 (nineteen years ago)

The Justine Bateman thing was greatness.

― polyphonic (polyphonic), Saturday, 11 February 2006 06:08 (nineteen years ago)

I think the first of the four episodes last night is probably the all-time weakest episode of the three seasons, but the other three were great, especially the finale.

I'm satisfied - it was a good ending, but if they do get picked up for a fourth season someplace, they have a lot of room to reinvent the show.

― Matthew C Perpetua (inca), Saturday, 11 February 2006 17:02 (nineteen years ago)

I enjoyed all of them. They even redeemed the stupid "MR. F!" joke with the "DIFFERENT!" joke. Somehow, the joke that made me laugh the hardest was Lindsay finishing all of Michael's sentences with "Sandwiches?"

― n/a (Nick A.), Saturday, 11 February 2006 19:04 (nineteen years ago)

Thought these were easily the best 4 of a very up & down season. the perfect conclusion. i am sad, but satisfied.

― PeopleFunnyBoy (PeopleFunnyBoy), Saturday, 11 February 2006 19:07 (nineteen years ago)

Which one was the first one? Judge Reinhold?

― Jordan (Jordan), Saturday, 11 February 2006 19:25 (nineteen years ago)

I am satisfied but would've liked a bit more conclusion, really wanted Maybe and George Michael to run off together, Tobias to have a gay lover etc. Before the final one started I wondered if it was just going to be the last of a 3 episode arc before fox kill it or if they had the time to write it as the LAST episode, considering the final episode starts by paralleling the first episode in almost every way, Michael on the boat, flashback to him sleeping next to his son and the great joke, this time inverted:

First episode:

"George Michael, what do I always say comes first?"
"breakfast"
"family, family comes first"
"I thought you meant in the day"

Last episode:

"George MIchael, what do I always say comes first?"
"family?"
"I was thinking breakfast"

Really the perfect conclusion...

― Dan Selzer (Dan Selzer), Saturday, 11 February 2006 20:06 (nineteen years ago)

I thought the Mr. F joke was redeemed when George Michael got an F on his paper.

― polyphonic (polyphonic), Saturday, 11 February 2006 20:53 (nineteen years ago)

But Maybe and George Michael made out twice and Tobias was more gay than ever!

― Jordan (Jordan), Saturday, 11 February 2006 20:58 (nineteen years ago)

I almost forgot about GOB and Ann. That was great too.

― adam (adam), Saturday, 11 February 2006 21:43 (nineteen years ago)

xpost -

i'm 90% sure the cast & crew got the word that FOX was axing the series before they filmed these last 4, and adjusted the plotline accordingly. i remember reading something to that effect during the infinite hiatus.

― PeopleFunnyBoy (PeopleFunnyBoy), Saturday, 11 February 2006 23:10 (nineteen years ago)

Yeah, of course they knew. You can tell which is the first episode after they found out they were getting axed.

"Oh no, HBO doesn't want us."
"I think it's showtime..."

― Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Saturday, 11 February 2006 23:26 (nineteen years ago)

Any other Kitty Sanchez fans in here? "SPRING BREAK, WHOOOOO!!!! Up here, Michael, up here!"

― Joe (Joe), Saturday, 11 February 2006 23:29 (nineteen years ago)

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/f/f8/KittyWantsGOBbad.JPG

― Joe (Joe), Saturday, 11 February 2006 23:34 (nineteen years ago)

Lost kinda already has had an Arrested Development reference, albeit only vaguely (Jin to Charlie right before getting knocked out by Ethan's slingshot dealie - "Annyong").

― nklshs, Sunday, 12 February 2006 15:17 (nineteen years ago)

no one mentioned the blue velvet reference in episode 10:

"why are there puppets like frank?"

― cutty (mcutt), Sunday, 12 February 2006 15:53 (nineteen years ago)

*does the hand-over-head-with-"fwoosh" thing to illustrate over-my-head-ness*

The last 3 episodes seemed like they decided, hey, if we're getting canned, we might as well tell all those jokes (incest, Saddam lookalikes, etc) that would've got us cancelled anyway. Which worked out well. There were about 5 minutes in the Family Ties episode that were so awkward I thought I might vomit.

I almost don't want them to make anymore episodes, honestly, because the way it ended was, like, totally the best ending ever.

― nklshs, Sunday, 12 February 2006 15:59 (nineteen years ago)

yeah, i sort of agree. i feel like these last 4 episodes gave such a great payoff and resolution. i was also starting to tire a little bit of the fact that the plots were getting *so* circuitous. ending this way, with the whole show coming pretty much full-circle, is kinda perfect.

also, best line i didn't pick up until 2nd viewing: GOB to Michael, after the latter's teary speech: "Well, looks like George Michael got his mother back today."

― PeopleFunnyBoy (PeopleFunnyBoy), Sunday, 12 February 2006 16:02 (nineteen years ago)

Yeah, I've got to say - given that the series has had a more or less perfect run and has been given a perfect conclusion, I'm not sure if it would be a good idea to bring it back. 53 episodes is a lot, and I do think that there were some wobbly bits in season 3. I mean, I wouldn't be upset with more episodes, but this is a nice feeling of closure on the series.

― Matthew C Perpetua (inca), Sunday, 12 February 2006 16:05 (nineteen years ago)

So, that said, POX Arrested Development!

Pier Pressure
Not Without My Daughter
Good Grief
Afternoon Delight
Motherboy XXX
Sword of Destiny
Righteous Brothers
Forget Me Now
Family Ties
Development Arrested

― Matthew C Perpetua (inca), Sunday, 12 February 2006 16:09 (nineteen years ago)

There was some good line about the length, I can't remember exactly, somebody said "we've been living together for a long time" or something and someone responded, "yeah, 53 weeks".

― Dan Selzer (Dan Selzer), Sunday, 12 February 2006 16:35 (nineteen years ago)

That was when Michael asked George Michael how long this has been going on with Maeby, and he said "oh, about 53 weeks."

― Matthew C Perpetua (inca), Sunday, 12 February 2006 16:45 (nineteen years ago)

That line was also awesome.

― PeopleFunnyBoy (PeopleFunnyBoy), Sunday, 12 February 2006 16:53 (nineteen years ago)

Top Banana
Pier Pressure
Best Man for the GOB
Good Grief
Afternoon Delight
The Immaculate Election
Meet the Veals
Righteous Brothers
S.O.B.s
Family Ties

(I think)

― Ross G. (scatter), Sunday, 12 February 2006 20:49 (nineteen years ago)

Oh man, "Best Man For The GOB" - maybe I should've put that one instead of "Development Arrested."

― Matthew C Perpetua (inca), Sunday, 12 February 2006 23:52 (nineteen years ago)

I watched them all back to back this afternoon. So many jokes! So re-watchable!

― rrrobyn (rrrobyn), Monday, 13 February 2006 00:04 (nineteen years ago)

My only disappointment was that Barry didn't come back.

― Huk-L (Huk-L), Monday, 13 February 2006 15:37 (nineteen years ago)

justine bateman is pretty hot

― mark p (Mark P), Tuesday, 14 February 2006 05:17 (nineteen years ago)

holy shit she is hot.

― cutty (mcutt), Tuesday, 14 February 2006 05:18 (nineteen years ago)

She has always been hot!

― Huk-L (Huk-L), Tuesday, 14 February 2006 15:03 (nineteen years ago)

but did she always have... those?

― mark p (Mark P), Tuesday, 14 February 2006 15:40 (nineteen years ago)

Her?

― Huk-L (Huk-L), Tuesday, 14 February 2006 15:45 (nineteen years ago)

OMG, she turns 40 next week!
http://www.hissandpop.com/celebrities/b/justinebateman/

― Huk-L (Huk-L), Tuesday, 14 February 2006 15:47 (nineteen years ago)

is she still like, born-again?

yes, she was super hot in that episode.

― Dan Selzer (Dan Selzer), Tuesday, 14 February 2006 15:50 (nineteen years ago)

Her?

― Jordan (Jordan), Tuesday, 14 February 2006 15:58 (nineteen years ago)

(sorry)

― Jordan (Jordan), Tuesday, 14 February 2006 15:59 (nineteen years ago)

You've gotta lock that down.

― Huk-L (Huk-L), Tuesday, 14 February 2006 16:02 (nineteen years ago)

teach me the ways of the secular flesh!

― Dan Selzer (Dan Selzer), Tuesday, 14 February 2006 16:16 (nineteen years ago)

http://www.parentstv.org/PTC/publications/bw/2005/0829worst.asp

this almost seems like a joke.

― Dan Selzer (Dan Selzer), Tuesday, 14 February 2006 16:21 (nineteen years ago)

http://www.parentstv.org/PTC/publications/bw/welcome.asp

― mark p (Mark P), Tuesday, 14 February 2006 16:23 (nineteen years ago)

WARNING: Graphic Content!!! Do NOT push play if you don't want to see the explicit video!!!

Honest, mom, I was just jerking off to make sure it was wrong!

― Huk-L (Huk-L), Tuesday, 14 February 2006 16:26 (nineteen years ago)

http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d8/whibbers/7756923f8da03b0eced78010.jpg

― maura (maura), Tuesday, 14 February 2006 21:18 (nineteen years ago)

SPOILER BELOW

I did not catch this, so cannot claim credit, but I'm posting it here. From Afternoon Delight:

http://the-op.com/images/episode/206/000002_sm.jpg

Note the banana stand appears to read:

"I'll Get You, Bluths!"
- Hello

― PeopleFunnyBoy (PeopleFunnyBoy), Tuesday, 14 February 2006 21:35 (nineteen years ago)

What is that a spoiler for?

― Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Tuesday, 14 February 2006 21:39 (nineteen years ago)

The final episode.

― PeopleFunnyBoy (PeopleFunnyBoy), Tuesday, 14 February 2006 21:41 (nineteen years ago)

For people who have perhaps not watched it yet.

― PeopleFunnyBoy (PeopleFunnyBoy), Tuesday, 14 February 2006 21:42 (nineteen years ago)

oh hell. here it is:

http://the-op.com/media/image2.php?ep=206&i=1582&cat=6200

― PeopleFunnyBoy (PeopleFunnyBoy), Tuesday, 14 February 2006 22:00 (nineteen years ago)

http://www.imnoscar.com/

― mark p (Mark P), Tuesday, 14 February 2006 22:18 (nineteen years ago)

oh man! wonderous!

― cutty (mcutt), Tuesday, 14 February 2006 22:20 (nineteen years ago)

Yeah, I kind of missed that, when the Saddam double said something that I did not hear, and then "dot com".

― Dave will do (dave225.3), Tuesday, 14 February 2006 22:47 (nineteen years ago)

hahahahaha, omg. I think I've just decided that this is what i have to do tonight, rewatch these last 4 episodes.

― rrrobyn (rrrobyn), Tuesday, 14 February 2006 22:51 (nineteen years ago)

imnoscar....I caught that and for a second thought "I bet there's a website..." but forgot to check. There never was and never again will be a show like this. I hope they don't continue it, it's perfect as it is, and when season 3 makes it out on DVD, I'll have 3 DVD sets to watch over and over again.

― Dan Selzer (Dan Selzer), Wednesday, 15 February 2006 03:17 (nineteen years ago)

Seconded. It's so great as it is.

― Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Wednesday, 15 February 2006 03:23 (nineteen years ago)

it was good

lots of refs

― RJG (RJG), Wednesday, 15 February 2006 03:29 (nineteen years ago)

one month passes...

I can't believe they planted a spoiler for the finale on a freeze frame from season 2...

― Le Baaderonixx de Benedict Canyon (baaderonixx), Thursday, 16 March 2006 22:49 (nineteen years ago)

Has this actually been picked up by Showtime (or anyone?).

― Ned T.Rifle (nedtrifle), Friday, 17 March 2006 12:54 (nineteen years ago)

Finally seeing the finale, I don't think they even bothered pitching it to other networks. That last episode seemed like they made their peace with the fact it was over. I'll miss Buster. "Deli-cious"...

― Le Baaderonixx de Benedict Canyon (baaderonixx), Friday, 17 March 2006 13:26 (nineteen years ago)

I can't believe they planted a spoiler for the finale on a freeze frame from season 2.
Fluh?

― Øystein (Øystein), Friday, 17 March 2006 15:28 (nineteen years ago)

It looks like the series will be put to rest. Mitch Huriwitz confirmed to Variety that he will not continue with the series.

E! Daily Link Here

― Binjominia (Brilhante), Wednesday, 29 March 2006 03:35 (nineteen years ago)

He's made a huge mistake.

Not really. I am the biggest Arrested Development fan you'll find in my tri-state area, but I think it was ended perfectly.

It's now a sweet memory. That I can watch at any time.

― Justin Shumaker (shueytexas), Wednesday, 29 March 2006 03:54 (nineteen years ago)

At least the suffering is over.
My only regret is that the third season didn't last longer so that the DVD set would be meatier.
Hopefully Hurwitz will deliver many more short-lived hilarious shows in the FUTURE. And I will marry Will Arnett.

― Huk-L (Huk-L), Wednesday, 29 March 2006 19:11 (nineteen years ago)

Are the season 3 dvds coming out soon?

― Jordan (Jordan), Wednesday, 29 March 2006 19:14 (nineteen years ago)

The DVD should be out in June, I believe. Check out amazon. I think they're taking pre-orders.

― Binjominia (Brilhante), Wednesday, 29 March 2006 19:30 (nineteen years ago)

availability: Due for release: 13/06/2006

...says PlayUSA.

― Ned T.RIfle II (Ned T.Rifle II), Thursday, 30 March 2006 09:44 (nineteen years ago)

four months pass...

Aug 29, 2006.

― Derek Emery (Zedd138), Saturday, 19 August 2006 20:24 (nineteen years ago)

Ah, Arrested Development. Amongst my uni friends this thing is (with good reason) universally regarded as the funniest show to come out of America since, erm,

nah, it's the funniest. And GOB is the best character. And almost every moment is utterly priceless. And I can't wait for S3 to come out. We're talking Father Ted good here, perhaps even better.

― Scourage (Haberdager), Saturday, 19 August 2006 22:13 (nineteen years ago)

three weeks pass...

Attention England! Series three of Arrested Development is FINALLY getting an airing on BBC2. Starting off with a double bill on Sunday the 24th of September at 11.15pm. OUTSTANDING!

― marianna lcl (marianna lcl), Wednesday, 13 September 2006 15:18 (nineteen years ago)

Finally! And then hopefully a quick DVD jump too.

― Pete (Pete), Wednesday, 13 September 2006 15:25 (nineteen years ago)

I saw Season One last night for the first time.

Jason Bateman's deadpan double-takes were expert. So far so good; it's like "The Family Guy" with real actors and less loathsome allusiveness.

― Alfred, Lord Sotosyn (Alfred Soto), Wednesday, 13 September 2006 15:29 (nineteen years ago)

Hey Miss Popstar, we should totally stay in and watch it all again. Hey ILX, you should do the same.

― Nicholas Passant (Nicholas Passant), Wednesday, 13 September 2006 15:35 (nineteen years ago)

And it gets even better. I love the one second cutaways which come back to haunt them later in the story!

― Pete (Pete), Wednesday, 13 September 2006 15:40 (nineteen years ago)

Wicked!

― g00blar (gooblar), Wednesday, 13 September 2006 15:42 (nineteen years ago)

Oh dear, my sister is going to get impatient with me popping over the road to watch her TV, I fear. First Extras, then AD. Although I have seen the first few episodes of Season 3 already - I thought it dipped a bit in quality at the end of 2 but 3 gets so great again yay!

Oh and season 1 and 2 DVD box sets are v cheap just now...

― Archel (Archel), Wednesday, 13 September 2006 15:49 (nineteen years ago)

Nick, it's a given. I'm so excited!

Also, news just in: Wales, Scotland and Northern Ireland won't be opting out, so it'll be on the same time in those regions too! YAY!

― marianna lcl (marianna lcl), Wednesday, 13 September 2006 15:51 (nineteen years ago)

As in, £26 for *both* on Amazon. I don't buy DVDs but even I am tempted.

― Archel (Archel), Wednesday, 13 September 2006 15:52 (nineteen years ago)

Tonight!

― g00blar (gooblar), Sunday, 24 September 2006 19:31 (nineteen years ago)

Ta for the reminder.

― Forest Pines (ForestPines), Sunday, 24 September 2006 19:43 (nineteen years ago)

Top stuff as ever! The first episode started off a bit slowly but gained the traditional AD impetus steadily throughout before ending on a (typically) exquisite set of circumstances. The second episode was perhaps a teensy bit more restrained, but still bore the hallmark of hilarity we've come to expect, and was probably worth it just for the 'Free Chicken' banner alone. Best of all, Tobias' unintentionally homoerotic double entendres continue to get funnier by the day!

I'll say it again: I hold no veneration for television on account of its age, and AD is probably the finest sitcom I have ever seen.

― You've Got Scourage On Your Breath (Haberdager), Sunday, 24 September 2006 22:22 (nineteen years ago)

don't make me hate this show, haberdager

― ^@^ (map), Sunday, 24 September 2006 22:37 (nineteen years ago)

what are you guys talking about? Are they showing it in the UK a season late? Sounds like the beginning of season 3. If that's so, it gets way funnier in the middle of the season.

― Dan Selzer (Dan Selzer), Sunday, 24 September 2006 22:37 (nineteen years ago)

Yeah, it gets much better once the Charlize Theron plot arc is done.

― n/a (Nick A.), Sunday, 24 September 2006 22:55 (nineteen years ago)

If Maggie Thatcher loved Fawlty Towers, would you like it any less? I digress, they are indeed showing it on the BBC, late but not never, and I will make sure that every episode gets safely recorded. There's only, like, 13 of them this time, though? :(

I love that about AD. Even the 'bad' episodes crack me up completely, whilst keeping me aware that the next one will probably detonate the part of my brain devoted to humour, much in the manner of listening to a classic album and delighting in the weaker tracks. AD: like your favourite band, but a TV show.

― You've Got Scourage On Your Breath (Haberdager), Sunday, 24 September 2006 23:19 (nineteen years ago)

alright who is this guy

― ^@^ (map), Sunday, 24 September 2006 23:44 (nineteen years ago)

Ban Louis Jagger

BAN LOUIS JAGGER

― kit brash (kit brash), Monday, 25 September 2006 00:12 (nineteen years ago)

Dammit, you forgot Ban Louis Jagger , the original and the worst.

Before this turns into another OMG LET'S KICK JAGGER thread, however, may I suggest a return to the topic in hand, i.e. Arrested Development Series 3 finally hitting British screens?

― You've Got Scourage On Your Breath (Haberdager), Monday, 25 September 2006 00:16 (nineteen years ago)

i was so pleased to help spur the creation of that first thread!

― a name means a lot just by itself (lfam), Monday, 25 September 2006 01:33 (nineteen years ago)

ps ad is gud

― a name means a lot just by itself (lfam), Monday, 25 September 2006 01:33 (nineteen years ago)

i watched this on DVD a few weeks back, and watching it again, on TV, with knowledge of the various twists in the series as it continues - its hilarious the amount of jokes they layer in there that only make sense later on (like the clues abt the charlize theron character's true identity). its definitely a show made to be watched again, and again, and again.

xpost to dan - yeah, they just started screening series 3 here, two episodes a night near midnight on a sunday.

― i am not a nugget (stevie), Monday, 25 September 2006 05:13 (nineteen years ago)

i was so pleased to help spur the creation of that first thread!
-- a name means a lot just by itself (lfamula...), September 25th, 2006.

the meme that enrique built, son.

― EARLY-90S MAN (Enrique), Monday, 25 September 2006 07:14 (nineteen years ago)

"I've made a huge tiny mistake"

― g00blar (gooblar), Monday, 25 September 2006 07:27 (nineteen years ago)

Jason Bateman's deadpan double-takes were expert. So far so good; it's like "The Family Guy" with real actors and less loathsome allusiveness.

-- Alfred, Lord Sotosyn (soto.alfre...), September 13th, 2006.

otm

i'm getting into it a bit, will get dvds of s01.

what won it was a JB double-take when some guy (brother?) said to him
'yeah well i hear the jury's still out on science'.

― the classic sounds of the seventh of january 1998 (Enrique), Thursday, 5 October 2006 13:05 (nineteen years ago)

i'm getting into it a bit, will get dvds of s01.

soon you will want it all. and when you have it all, you will want to spend every waking hour rewatching it. and then (and only then) will you know mine own mirthful hell.

― i am not a nugget (stevie), Thursday, 5 October 2006 13:38 (nineteen years ago)

taste my tears, steve, taste them.

― Dan Selzer (Dan Selzer), Thursday, 5 October 2006 13:54 (nineteen years ago)

my thing for Kitty is getting out of hand

― Konal Doddz (blueski), Thursday, 5 October 2006 14:00 (nineteen years ago)

those tears taste a lot like happy

― i am not a nugget (stevie), Thursday, 5 October 2006 14:19 (nineteen years ago)

on at 12.55am on bbc2 tonight. there is a repeat of 'extras' and some golf on earlier.

― the classic sounds of the seventh of january 1998 (Enrique), Sunday, 8 October 2006 10:20 (nineteen years ago)

Just as dismissive of this as they were of Seinfeld and Larry Sanders a decade ago.

― xyzzzz__ (jdesouza), Sunday, 8 October 2006 18:18 (nineteen years ago)

Arrrgh golf.. i thought it's supposed to be on now..

another hour to wait

― jellybean (jellybean), Sunday, 8 October 2006 21:58 (nineteen years ago)

http://cgi.ebay.com/ARRESTED-DEVELOPMENT-GOBS-SCREEN-USED-SEGWAY-W-COA_W0QQitemZ140041753417QQihZ004QQcategoryZ47351QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

― got yourself a fish biscuit! (nickalicious), Wednesday, 18 October 2006 21:02 (nineteen years ago)

The new Comedy Central show "Freak Show" features the voice work of both David Cross and Will Arnett, for fans of AD who are currently suffering from withdrawal pangs.

― polyphonic (polyphonic), Wednesday, 18 October 2006 21:22 (nineteen years ago)

That should be in the Smithsonian, not on ebay.

― Chris L (Chris L), Wednesday, 18 October 2006 21:23 (nineteen years ago)

I am going to buy Rita's hat, come hell or high water.

― MR F! (Ex Leon), Wednesday, 18 October 2006 22:28 (nineteen years ago)

This one?:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ARRESTED-DEVELOPMENT-CHARLIZE-THERON-WORN-HAT-W-COA_W0QQitemZ140042733411QQihZ004QQcategoryZ18841QQtcZphotoQQcmdZViewItem

― La Monte (La Monte), Thursday, 19 October 2006 02:06 (nineteen years ago)

seven months pass...

um... FUNNY - http://www.clarkandmichael.com/

― t_g, Monday, 11 June 2007 16:50 (eighteen years ago)

i started a thread on that and nobody replied :(

― homosexual II, Monday, 11 June 2007 16:54 (eighteen years ago)

"You mean the guy we're supposed to meet with can't even grow his own hair? COME ON!"
-- La Monte (La Monte), Monday, January 17, 2005 5:04 PM (2 years ago) Bookmark Link

qflols

― That one guy that quit, Monday, 11 June 2007 17:01 (eighteen years ago)

i did mandee! or was that slocki's thread?

― stevie, Monday, 11 June 2007 17:02 (eighteen years ago)

my thing for Kitty is getting out of hand

-- Konal Doddz (blueski), Thursday, 5 October 2006 14:00 (8 months ago) Bookmark Link

qfwtf

― Just got offed, Monday, 11 June 2007 17:08 (eighteen years ago)

her?

― That one guy that quit, Monday, 11 June 2007 17:10 (eighteen years ago)

"...and say goodbye to THESE!"

― stevie, Monday, 11 June 2007 17:11 (eighteen years ago)

"glasses off, hair down...glasses back on...hair up...glasses off...glasses on..."

― Just got offed, Monday, 11 June 2007 17:13 (eighteen years ago)

sorry if it's already been discussed! i only just saw it. and i like it.

― t_g, Monday, 11 June 2007 17:21 (eighteen years ago)

"everyone is laughing and riding and cornholing except buster"

― Bill in Chicago, Monday, 11 June 2007 22:23 (eighteen years ago)

clark and michael's great! is it coming to tv?

― stevie, Monday, 11 June 2007 22:26 (eighteen years ago)

I only recently got the who 'Bob Loblaw' thing, and then spent the next 30 minutes laughing uncontrollably in the living room.

I was so glad there was no one else at home at the time.

― Jill, Tuesday, 12 June 2007 04:03 (eighteen years ago)

http://mocktrialjr.ytmnd.com/

― That one guy that quit, Thursday, 14 June 2007 23:09 (eighteen years ago)

seven months pass...

http://static.flickr.com/186/454780652_8417be3593.jpg

― nickalicious, Thursday, 17 January 2008 22:06 (seventeen years ago)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nookie_(song)

The song was memorably performed live on the first day of programming of MTV's "Isle of MTV", their summer 1999 promotion. At the conclusion of the song, Durst detonated a ship sitting out in the water a few hundred yards from the stage.

― and what, Monday, 21 January 2008 04:51 (seventeen years ago)

last night i told my friend he resembled michael cera and then he told me he ran into him once and got a pic with him. yay.

― tehresa, Monday, 21 January 2008 07:38 (seventeen years ago)

I really wanted to post a pic of the flamboyant gay with the "FREEDOM!" sign that shows up at least 3 times in this series, but instead I settled on the lego staircar.

― nickalicious, Monday, 21 January 2008 20:47 (seventeen years ago)

ppl used to tell me i resembled michael cera all the time and then knocked up came out and now they say seth rogen.

― s1ocki, Monday, 21 January 2008 20:49 (seventeen years ago)

maybe when the next apatow movie drops you can upgrade to jason segal

― and what, Monday, 21 January 2008 20:50 (seventeen years ago)

those are drastically different looks!

my friend's husband looks exactly like seth rogan.

― tehresa, Tuesday, 22 January 2008 00:34 (seventeen years ago)

my friend and ex-lover and i still get totally manic laughter out of each other when we remember Gene Parmesan and Lucille's reaction to him popping out of disguises. even thinking about him gives me the giggles.

― the table is the table, Tuesday, 22 January 2008 00:42 (seventeen years ago)

i did grow a beard at one point

― s1ocki, Tuesday, 22 January 2008 00:47 (seventeen years ago)

my date mon. night cancelled at the last minute but i couldnt quite understand why

-- deej, Wednesday, 30 January 2008 06:14 (Yesterday) Link

mostly because she speaks v. little english and i speak no spanish

-- deej, Wednesday, 30 January 2008 06:14 (Yesterday) Link

lolllllll
so apparently she wasn't canceling our date and i totally misunderstood her

now she thinks i stood her up. oops

-- deej, Thursday, 31 January 2008 08:46 (6 hours ago) Link

^^^^muy estúpido

-- deej, Thursday, 31 January 2008 08:47 (6 hours ago) Link

i heard she's in love with Hermano anyway

-- ^@^, Thursday, 31 January 2008 10:18 (5 hours ago) Link

― and what, Thursday, 31 January 2008 15:34 (seventeen years ago)

ppl used to tell me i resembled michael cera all the time and then knocked up came out and now they say seth rogen.

The hell? You look like neither of them.

― jaymc, Thursday, 31 January 2008 15:38 (seventeen years ago)

http://www.morphthing.com/showimage/2/8cfa76d6930cc916fd6d537847c66d2a/0/3188370/Seth-Rogen-and-Michael-Cera.jpeg

― jaymc, Thursday, 31 January 2008 16:02 (seventeen years ago)

jeffrey tambor said there is going to be an arrested development movie on the early show this morning.

― sunny successor, Thursday, 31 January 2008 16:25 (seventeen years ago)

Exclusive! Jason Bateman Confirms Arrested Development Movie Talks

http://tv.yahoo.com/show/35099/news/urn:newsml:eonlinekristen.com:20080202:TV-6a829db24533e7aa026268d0738c29d5__ER:1;_ylt=AuK7ETKJIdGTP7M9Gu47UVyAo9EF

― chaki, Wednesday, 6 February 2008 02:53 (seventeen years ago)

The hell? You look like neither of them.

-- jaymc, Thursday, January 31, 2008 3:38 PM (6 days ago) Bookmark Link

since knocked up came out it's been all rogen all the time from random acquaintances and strangers. drunk woman at party the other week: "you look like that man... from knocked up... seth rogen. are you married? you're lovely."

― s1ocki, Wednesday, 6 February 2008 05:37 (seventeen years ago)

did you knock her up?

― and what, Thursday, 7 February 2008 01:53 (seventeen years ago)

no she was weird

― s1ocki, Thursday, 7 February 2008 05:31 (seventeen years ago)

i only impregnate normal girls

― s1ocki, Thursday, 7 February 2008 05:32 (seventeen years ago)

ooh look at you with your standards.

― Eppy, Thursday, 7 February 2008 05:37 (seventeen years ago)

"Oh my God! That's the coolest fucking story I've ever heard in my life! Can you tell it again, do you have time?" ;)

― Michael White, Thursday, 7 February 2008 05:42 (seventeen years ago)

ARRESTED DEVELOPMENT RETURNS!!!

― DavidM, Thursday, 7 February 2008 09:46 (seventeen years ago)

If ever a show needed to be on the big screen.

― caek, Thursday, 7 February 2008 09:53 (seventeen years ago)

I love the show but I don't know if AD would work that great as a film.

― Nicole, Thursday, 7 February 2008 14:50 (seventeen years ago)

I can see this as a film, but I'd prefer it if they'd make a new series instead.

― Ste, Thursday, 7 February 2008 15:02 (seventeen years ago)

i dont know what your police captain told you about me, but im a different breed of cop. im from the streets, and im the laaaaaaaaaaast cop youre ever gonna want to mess with in a darkened alley. a dark alley.

― and what, Wednesday, 20 February 2008 21:00 (seventeen years ago)

one month passes...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kxd6po6wL4w

― and what, Tuesday, 1 April 2008 16:43 (seventeen years ago)

re-watching the whole thing now from the start

Mr Banana-Grabber AAAAAA++++++

― blueski, Tuesday, 1 April 2008 16:44 (seventeen years ago)

+ Gob's girlfriend in the episode before that is incredible

― blueski, Tuesday, 1 April 2008 16:46 (seventeen years ago)

wow @ bollywood final countdown

― Jordan, Tuesday, 1 April 2008 17:02 (seventeen years ago)

two months pass...

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2025/2434452592_3949ab0bdd.jpg

why

― am0n, Saturday, 21 June 2008 06:05 (seventeen years ago)

Yeah, it clearly should be

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/e/e0/BusterFearSheep.JPG

― Super Cub, Saturday, 21 June 2008 06:10 (seventeen years ago)

one month passes...

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/230/511028587_ff63f63a58_o.gif

― am0n, Friday, 8 August 2008 04:02 (seventeen years ago)

ann: was that really you doing those lightsaber moves? you were incredible.
george michael: i've only gotten better.
michael: .....you're still doing that?

― aaron d.g., Friday, 8 August 2008 04:21 (seventeen years ago)

cool terminator t-shirt on the tatoo guy, am0n

― caek, Friday, 8 August 2008 10:22 (seventeen years ago)

"CLLLUUUUBBBB SAAAAUUUCCE"

― blueski, Friday, 8 August 2008 11:18 (seventeen years ago)

lucille gonna be the gma in new 90210!

― tehresa, Friday, 8 August 2008 12:27 (seventeen years ago)

four months pass...

I just picked up the boxed set on Amazon for $30, it's the "deal of the day." Score!

― skeletal lexing (Finefinemusic), Tuesday, 16 December 2008 17:58 (sixteen years ago)

All three seasons?

― Abbott of the Trapezoid Monks (Abbott), Tuesday, 16 December 2008 18:01 (sixteen years ago)

Wow, that's kind of insane.

― total mormon cockblock extravaganza (jaymc), Tuesday, 16 December 2008 18:05 (sixteen years ago)

i got the same thing off amazon last year for $41

― freek-a-luriqua (and what), Tuesday, 16 December 2008 18:05 (sixteen years ago)

Shit, I'm sold.

― Abbott of the Trapezoid Monks (Abbott), Tuesday, 16 December 2008 18:12 (sixteen years ago)

$28.99!

― Abbott of the Trapezoid Monks (Abbott), Tuesday, 16 December 2008 18:13 (sixteen years ago)

(hollow laugh) After import tax and additional mail handling fee I paid that for the 3rd season (sign)

― Holden McGroin (Ned Trifle II), Tuesday, 16 December 2008 18:59 (sixteen years ago)

yup, all three seasons! yesterday Stargate's entire series was $99 down from $399 but I did not think to tell anyone here. Sorry. I think I am about to develop an addiction to checking their Deal of the Day, damnit. Now to get some sort of uber-deal on the Sopranos box set. Please?

― skeletal lexing (Finefinemusic), Tuesday, 16 December 2008 19:08 (sixteen years ago)

four months pass...

SPOILERS

god damnit, i love this show. it's cool to retroactively see parallels b/w this and 30 rock, but charlize theron >>>>> salma hayek imo. i'm almost done with season 3, but i just finished the ep where michael finds out rita is retarded, and it ahd a couple of the most awesome metareferences ive seen on tv: the part where michael and rita come out of a british movie and rita complains about american actors being hired for british parts, and when they refer to rita's plastic surgery by showing a "before" pic of her...as her character in "monster" (iirc).

― oh, whineypause (k3vin k.), Monday, 27 April 2009 04:22 (sixteen years ago)

all of the meta in season 3 is so hilarious

― pleasure p (J0rdan S.), Monday, 27 April 2009 04:30 (sixteen years ago)

SPOILERS

― s1ocki, Monday, 27 April 2009 05:07 (sixteen years ago)

ha i mean i wouldnt want to have been told that before seeing it :(

― oh, whineypause (k3vin k.), Monday, 27 April 2009 05:14 (sixteen years ago)

it's appropriate. Hell I can't look at the Moderator Request Forum New Answers shortcut at the top without a chuckle.

― Nhex, Monday, 27 April 2009 05:52 (sixteen years ago)

the part where michael and rita come out of a british movie and rita complains about american actors being hired for british parts

Why is this an awesome metareference? becuz she's south african playing a britisher?

― wilter, Monday, 27 April 2009 06:02 (sixteen years ago)

or just that there are heaps of non-americans playing americans in hollywood and she is one of them i guess?

― wilter, Monday, 27 April 2009 06:03 (sixteen years ago)

zip it please

― tuppence b. bag (roxymuzak), Monday, 27 April 2009 06:32 (sixteen years ago)

― wilter, Monday, 27 April 2009 06:41 (sixteen years ago)

thought season 3 was totally weaksauce after what had preceded it and the Charlize Theron ark was terrible.

― Suggesteban Cambiasso (jim), Monday, 27 April 2009 13:46 (sixteen years ago)

totally agree

― Mr. Que, Monday, 27 April 2009 13:58 (sixteen years ago)

i thought so at the time but i've warmed up to it since then

― congratulations (n/a), Monday, 27 April 2009 14:02 (sixteen years ago)

it does get better on a second (or lol, third or fourth viewing)

― Mr. Que, Monday, 27 April 2009 14:06 (sixteen years ago)

wtf people the episode entitled "Mr F" (5th of S3) might be the best episode ever

― sorry for british (country matters), Monday, 27 April 2009 14:08 (sixteen years ago)

tiny town is pretty insane--the show is so good. i just think there was a noticeable decline in quality, and the Mr. F plotline was dumb.

― Mr. Que, Monday, 27 April 2009 14:12 (sixteen years ago)

I think S3 was as good as the first two but then I'm a grotesque AD stan

― sorry for british (country matters), Monday, 27 April 2009 14:13 (sixteen years ago)

i am so much of an AD stan, i've plotted the quality of each show on an excel spreadsheet

― Mr. Que, Monday, 27 April 2009 14:14 (sixteen years ago)

the mr f plotline was kind of mr

― rip dom passantino 3/5/09 never forget (max), Monday, 27 April 2009 14:15 (sixteen years ago)

― Mr. Que, Monday, 27 April 2009 14:17 (sixteen years ago)

mentally retarded, i assume

i actually loved that whole thing, and think that season 3 might be my favorite of the three

― oh, whineypause (k3vin k.), Monday, 27 April 2009 14:19 (sixteen years ago)

dude for all yr spreadsheeting you've forgotten what MR F stands for

― sorry for british (country matters), Monday, 27 April 2009 14:19 (sixteen years ago)

i thought it stood for charlize theron's uncle

― Mr. Que, Monday, 27 April 2009 14:20 (sixteen years ago)

he was the head spy

― Mr. Que, Monday, 27 April 2009 14:20 (sixteen years ago)

2 > 1=3*

3 was shorter so this is a bit unfair. yeah the theron stuff wasn't all great (a lot of it was tho!) but the first few eps of series one weren't either.

― FREE DOM AND ETHAN (special guest stars mark bronson), Monday, 27 April 2009 14:21 (sixteen years ago)

2 is my favourite. I've watched it too many times now tho.

― Suggesteban Cambiasso (jim), Monday, 27 April 2009 14:25 (sixteen years ago)

2 > 1 > > > > > 3 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > most anything else on TV

― formerly: mehlt (Edward Saroyan), Monday, 27 April 2009 14:30 (sixteen years ago)

2 > 1=3

true for a lot of series

― Unknown Artist (G00blar), Monday, 27 April 2009 14:31 (sixteen years ago)

the theron bits enabled the 'hey! that's the name of the show!' narration which is a classic gag, one my faves.

― FREE DOM AND ETHAN (special guest stars mark bronson), Monday, 27 April 2009 14:32 (sixteen years ago)

yes. also 'bumpaddle'.

― Hard House SugBanton (blueski), Monday, 27 April 2009 15:14 (sixteen years ago)

michael & charlize meet cute one of the funniest scenes on the show. also michael stubbornly remaining on the phone with george sr all night in the hotel room

― s1ocki, Monday, 27 April 2009 15:15 (sixteen years ago)

my favorite gag was at the very end of the charlize arc, where she and michael decide not to get married and as she leaves, she walks across the swimming pool.
michael: "gob, is this one of your tricks?"
gob: "no ... it's not one of my tricks."
NEXT WEEK ON ARRESTED DEVELOPMENT
gob: "it's one of my ILLUUUUUUSIONS"

― congratulations (n/a), Monday, 27 April 2009 15:21 (sixteen years ago)

ha, my favorite comes right after that where gob sets tobias's crazy hair on fire and then tobias tries to jump in the pool and is all WHY AM I NOT GOING INTO THE WATER, but you don't actually see any of it. so great.

― Mr. Que, Monday, 27 April 2009 15:23 (sixteen years ago)

^yes

― oh, whineypause (k3vin k.), Monday, 27 April 2009 15:23 (sixteen years ago)

haha the male strippers posing as cops,

"OMG ITS THE COPS, and a construction worker"

― Ant Attack.. (Ste), Monday, 27 April 2009 15:26 (sixteen years ago)

everyone otm

― sorry for british (country matters), Monday, 27 April 2009 15:26 (sixteen years ago)

sheeeeeit im gonna watch AD tonight

― FREE DOM AND ETHAN (special guest stars mark bronson), Monday, 27 April 2009 15:27 (sixteen years ago)

― congratulations (n/a), Monday, 27 April 2009 16:21 (7 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

― Mr. Que, Monday, 27 April 2009 16:23 (6 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

yeah the faux-sincere fade to white and then the jarring suckerpunch of "on the next arrested development: "IT'S MY ILLUSION" are just fucking genius

― EMPIRE STATE HYMEN (MPx4A), Monday, 27 April 2009 15:31 (sixteen years ago)

and he squirts lighter fluid and all is well in the world

― sorry for british (country matters), Monday, 27 April 2009 15:38 (sixteen years ago)

tobias calling a benefit because his hair implants are killing him was also great

(was that the one where they have the flashback to the Bluth family voting for what they hold their benefit for and everyone looking completely disgusted at Michael for suggesting "ovarian cancer"?)

― EMPIRE STATE HYMEN (MPx4A), Monday, 27 April 2009 15:42 (sixteen years ago)

the way they handle Michael's dead wife is maybe the most consistently dark thing throughout the whole show

― EMPIRE STATE HYMEN (MPx4A), Monday, 27 April 2009 15:43 (sixteen years ago)

"oh yes, because you're such an expert on relationships. Oh, I'm sorry. Your wife is DEAD."

― EMPIRE STATE HYMEN (MPx4A), Monday, 27 April 2009 15:44 (sixteen years ago)

yeah whenever I have read Arsenal boards in the run-up to a game, their predictions of 3-0 wins have generally not included Bendtner as one of the scorers

― EMPIRE STATE HYMEN (MPx4A), Monday, 27 April 2009 15:46 (sixteen years ago)

sorry ignore that last one

― EMPIRE STATE HYMEN (MPx4A), Monday, 27 April 2009 15:46 (sixteen years ago)

the way they handle Michael's dead wife is maybe the most consistently dark thing throughout the whole show

― EMPIRE STATE HYMEN (MPx4A), Monday, April 27, 2009 11:43 AM (5 minutes ago)

omg yesssss

― oh, whineypause (k3vin k.), Monday, 27 April 2009 15:51 (sixteen years ago)

his secret uselessness as a father is at least a close second

"if there's something you have to tell me, go ahead"
"i love my cou-"
"i love you too, son"

― thomp, Monday, 27 April 2009 16:37 (sixteen years ago)

that's not uselessness as a father, that's applied diplomacy

― sorry for british (country matters), Monday, 27 April 2009 16:37 (sixteen years ago)

downloading s3 now to give it another chance.

― Suggesteban Cambiasso (jim), Monday, 27 April 2009 16:38 (sixteen years ago)

i think season three is the best, but it does kind of require a kind of trainspotting willingness in the cleverness of the creators, and along with this a level of emotional involvement which doesn't mesh with it very happily: it's probably not the best season at 22-minute sitcom lols episodes

that said i think my favorite moment is with the whole 'hermano' thing going on with gob saying something like "hey, mon frere - you know, that's french for brother"

― thomp, Monday, 27 April 2009 16:40 (sixteen years ago)

http://i28.photobucket.com/albums/c231/kungfukangaroo/AD3.jpg

― James Mitchell, Monday, 27 April 2009 17:30 (sixteen years ago)

wtf people the episode entitled "Mr F" (5th of S3) might be the best episode ever

― sorry for british (country matters), Monday, 27 April 2009 15:08 (3 hours ago) Bookmark

and the above photo is why

― sorry for british (country matters), Monday, 27 April 2009 17:33 (sixteen years ago)

i mean i think some bright spark suggested that scene would probably the funniest scene in all television ever, and if only there was a way of engineering its coming about

― sorry for british (country matters), Monday, 27 April 2009 17:34 (sixteen years ago)

"I was going to take the marijuana, and smoke it like a cigarette."

― fillibustar superstar! (Abbott), Monday, 27 April 2009 18:26 (sixteen years ago)

"The fact that you call it pop-pop means I know you're ready for it!"

― fillibustar superstar! (Abbott), Monday, 27 April 2009 18:26 (sixteen years ago)

"I'm bringing some of pop-pop's favorite foods to the attic. It's the form my grief has taken."

― fillibustar superstar! (Abbott), Monday, 27 April 2009 18:27 (sixteen years ago)

"All RIGHT! It's like we're slave buddies!"

― fillibustar superstar! (Abbott), Monday, 27 April 2009 18:27 (sixteen years ago)

"You're in what we in the soft sciences like to call 'denial.'"

― fillibustar superstar! (Abbott), Monday, 27 April 2009 18:30 (sixteen years ago)

CUZ (it's a) SIN

― fillibustar superstar! (Abbott), Monday, 27 April 2009 18:31 (sixteen years ago)

Gob: I kind of feel like that kid who found the severed hand.
Steve: "Hey, Dad, look what I found!”
Gob: Anything for his father's approval.

― fillibustar superstar! (Abbott), Monday, 27 April 2009 18:32 (sixteen years ago)

my husband and i were just talking about this show. we've never seen an ep. should we start or is it too late?

― the tip of the tongue taking a trip tralalala (stevienixed), Monday, 27 April 2009 18:40 (sixteen years ago)

it's been over for several years so you should just get the dvds and start at the beginning. give it a few episodes

― congratulations (n/a), Monday, 27 April 2009 18:41 (sixteen years ago)

It is never too late to enjoy Arrested Development.

― fillibustar superstar! (Abbott), Monday, 27 April 2009 18:44 (sixteen years ago)

Just don't feel obligated to watch BOTH the pilots on the first disc (watch the 'real' one that was aired & is shorter).

― fillibustar superstar! (Abbott), Monday, 27 April 2009 18:45 (sixteen years ago)

Woohooo. I'm gonna start watching this as soon as I finish True Blood.

― the tip of the tongue taking a trip tralalala (stevienixed), Monday, 27 April 2009 18:46 (sixteen years ago)

Bought Season 3 over the weekend and just started watching it. Having never seen it before I'm excited despite all the hate in this thread.

― ENBB, Monday, 27 April 2009 18:51 (sixteen years ago)

Fuck that, season 3 is fucking funny as fuck and always a cheer-up.

― fillibustar superstar! (Abbott), Monday, 27 April 2009 18:52 (sixteen years ago)

I can't think of any movies or tv shows as funny as season 3 (tho I can think of some books & comics).

― fillibustar superstar! (Abbott), Monday, 27 April 2009 18:52 (sixteen years ago)

It is this insane culmination of everything that has happened before and also with new stuff that is REALLY FUNNY.

― fillibustar superstar! (Abbott), Monday, 27 April 2009 18:53 (sixteen years ago)

Watched one ep last night. I have to pace myself otherwise I'd just watch the whole in at once but I want the funny to last.

― ENBB, Monday, 27 April 2009 18:55 (sixteen years ago)

It is never too late to enjoy Arrested Development.

I heartily endorse this sentiment.

For some reason the last episode really gets to me, like to the point of tearing up.

― Nicodle Otago (Nicole), Monday, 27 April 2009 19:09 (sixteen years ago)

"The fact that you call it pop-pop means I know you're ready for it!"

― fillibustar superstar! (Abbott), Monday, April 27, 2009 2:26 PM (1 hour ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

Pretty sure it's,

'I have pop-pop in the attic.'
'the fact that you call it that tells me you're not ready.'

vs.

'I want to have sexuuuual relationssssss...'
'the very fact you call it that tells me you're ready.'

― Batsman (Jimmy The Mod Awaits The Return Of His Beloved), Monday, 27 April 2009 20:13 (sixteen years ago)

i had a good stew goin earlier

― Hard House SugBanton (blueski), Monday, 27 April 2009 20:23 (sixteen years ago)

'It's so watery...but with just a smack of ham.'

― fillibustar superstar! (Abbott), Monday, 27 April 2009 20:43 (sixteen years ago)

"I won't forget this, Dad!"

*pops roofie*

"I will. I will."

― sorry for british (country matters), Monday, 27 April 2009 20:47 (sixteen years ago)

I love how when he accidentally bleaches Franklin, Franklin starts talking in a bad British accent.

― fillibustar superstar! (Abbott), Monday, 27 April 2009 20:48 (sixteen years ago)

gob's son is steve holt is one of the best parts of season 3

― Mr. Que, Monday, 27 April 2009 20:48 (sixteen years ago)

just discovered that hulu has season 2, so, i'm failing out of med school

― i like to fart and i am crazy (gbx), Monday, 27 April 2009 20:49 (sixteen years ago)

The church/state fair where Michael & Steve Holt run the triathalon is great.

― fillibustar superstar! (Abbott), Monday, 27 April 2009 20:50 (sixteen years ago)

STEVE HOLT!

― Unknown Artist (G00blar), Monday, 27 April 2009 21:18 (sixteen years ago)

In that church-state fair ep, watch verrrrry closely to see "The Pope" chugging a beer!

― I wish he hadn't adapted my critique of his "ilxor" moniker (Myonga Vön Bontee), Monday, 27 April 2009 21:56 (sixteen years ago)

omg the episode where they throw the dinner party is amazing. obv the whole thing parallels saving the show, but my favorite part is a shot of inside the apartment where there's two "$" balloons on either side of a picture frame, spelling "SOS" if you look closely

― oh, whineypause (k3vin k.), Tuesday, 28 April 2009 03:07 (sixteen years ago)

from amazon.com

A prime example of the quality of this show is episode 9. The plot seems simple enough - the Bluths are running out of money, and need to host a charity fundraiser in order to keep the family afloat. However, a savvy tv viewer will quickly realise this is an all-out extravaganza of meta-humour that satirizes the concept of ratings stunts, while also making light of the uncertain fate of the show. This exchange between Michael and his father is an example of this:
Michael - Hows that fundraiser going?
George - I dont think the Home Builders Organisation is going to support us
Michael - The HBO's not going to want us. Who else?
George - I think its Showtime. I think we should put on a show after dinner. Hey, maybe we can have celebrities in! You know, Oscar winners like Nicole Kidman...
Michael - I don't wanna just round up a bunch of famous people that have nothing to do with our family as some sort of cheap stunt. What has that got to do with us?
George - Nothing...
Every conceivable type of ratings stunt other tv shows to boost their flagging ratings is satirised in this episode as well; advertising for internet petitions, the use of 3-D glasses, pointless guest stars, the Bluths purposely becoming more "sympathetic and relatable, because thats what everybody wants to see", and a cut to a 'live feed' at end of the show. Narrator Ron Howard literally begs on two occasions, saying things like "now thats a clear-cut situation with a promise of comedy. Tell your friends".

― oh, whineypause (k3vin k.), Tuesday, 28 April 2009 03:08 (sixteen years ago)

The church/state fair where Michael & Steve Holt run the triathalon is great.

Having watching the entire series about a zillion times now, I can confidently state that "Notapusy" is the best episode.

― the girl from spirea x (f. hazel), Tuesday, 28 April 2009 05:50 (sixteen years ago)

I don't know what you season 3 hating folks are on. I'm four episodes in and it's great so far.

― ENBB, Thursday, 30 April 2009 02:23 (sixteen years ago)

Season 3 is totally awesome, but as said, they completely gave up on trying to bring in new viewers, a huge percentage of the comedy simply became callbacks to previous episodes from the past two seasons. Another chunk of the humor came from over-the-top self-awareness (see above post) to the show's impending cancellation. That said, it was still great!

― Nhex, Thursday, 30 April 2009 02:44 (sixteen years ago)

but too short!!

― stchick (stevie), Thursday, 30 April 2009 08:01 (sixteen years ago)

I shouldn't have clicked this thread, all I want to do is stay in bed and watch AD all day now.

GOAT AD gag:

White Power Bill stabbing Gob in the back shouting "White power!" with Gob going doing saying "But I'm white"/him waking up and asking where he is, in hospital, finding out he succeeded in breaking out of jail: "Taa daa..."

<3 this show.

― 100,000 strawberries (a hoy hoy), Thursday, 30 April 2009 08:50 (sixteen years ago)

Season 3 was amazing, went completely meta in places, which I love.
God every time someone quotes anything from AD I want to go watch all three seasons for the 50th time in a row.

― Not the real Village People, Thursday, 30 April 2009 11:42 (sixteen years ago)

a hoy hoy is actually correct there

― Unknown Artist (G00blar), Thursday, 30 April 2009 11:46 (sixteen years ago)

the only thing "negative" about AD is that you kinda have to watch it from beginning to end every time.

― sonderangerbot, Thursday, 30 April 2009 11:59 (sixteen years ago)

can't think of any movies or tv shows as funny as season 3 (tho I can think of some books & comics).

― fillibustar superstar! (Abbott), Monday, 27 April 2009 18:52 (3 days ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

I want to read those books/comics because season 3 is as funny as TV gets.

― Ned Trifle II, Thursday, 30 April 2009 12:21 (sixteen years ago)

Althought this thread is also hilarious.

― Ned Trifle II, Thursday, 30 April 2009 12:22 (sixteen years ago)

one of my favourite AD gags, which no-one I know finds half as funny as I do, is the following:

Tobias: I'm up for a minor, but meaty role in a feature film: Confidence Man 2.
Gob: Oh yeah? I didn't see the first Confidence Man.
Tobias: No, 'Confidence Man 2' is my character.

― Suggesteban Cambiasso (jim), Thursday, 30 April 2009 13:45 (sixteen years ago)

oh shit i'd forgotten about all the tobias in denial jokes. haha

― Ant Attack.. (Ste), Thursday, 30 April 2009 13:49 (sixteen years ago)

You can stick an arrow in my buttocks any time.

― James Mitchell, Thursday, 30 April 2009 13:56 (sixteen years ago)

meaty man-parts ftw

― sorry for british (country matters), Thursday, 30 April 2009 13:57 (sixteen years ago)

actually, "The Man Inside Me" ftw

― sorry for british (country matters), Thursday, 30 April 2009 13:57 (sixteen years ago)

somewhere over the rainbow
there's another rainbow

sorry this is all time FTW

― Mr. Que, Thursday, 30 April 2009 13:58 (sixteen years ago)

"Tobias, you blowhard!"

― Hard House SugBanton (blueski), Thursday, 30 April 2009 13:58 (sixteen years ago)

Publicist: There are very few intelligent, attractive and straight men in this town.
Tobias Fünke: Well, that leaves me out.
[silence, everyone stares]
Tobias Fünke: She did say single, right? I-I-I thought she said single.

― congratulations (n/a), Thursday, 30 April 2009 14:00 (sixteen years ago)

also, "i blue myself"

― congratulations (n/a), Thursday, 30 April 2009 14:00 (sixteen years ago)

I'm looking for something that says "Dad likes leather"

― congratulations (n/a), Thursday, 30 April 2009 14:01 (sixteen years ago)

tobias may be best character after gob

― Mr. Que, Thursday, 30 April 2009 14:01 (sixteen years ago)

you, sir, are a mouthful!

― Suggesteban Cambiasso (jim), Thursday, 30 April 2009 14:02 (sixteen years ago)

Transvestite Store Clerk: Are you going to actually buy something this time, or are you just curious?
Tobias Fünke: Well, let's just say that I'm buy-curious.

― congratulations (n/a), Thursday, 30 April 2009 14:02 (sixteen years ago)

^ people copping this joke on ilx yesterday

― congratulations (n/a), Thursday, 30 April 2009 14:02 (sixteen years ago)

Although, if I may, let me take off my assistant's skirt and put on my Barbra Streisand in The Prince of Tides ass-masking therapist pantsuit.

― Suggesteban Cambiasso (jim), Thursday, 30 April 2009 14:03 (sixteen years ago)

Tobias Fünke: [as Mrs. Featherbottom] O-kay, who'd like a banger in the mouth?
[laughs]
Tobias Fünke: Right, I forgot, here in the States, you call it a *sausage* in the mouth.
Michael: We just call it a sausage.

― congratulations (n/a), Thursday, 30 April 2009 14:03 (sixteen years ago)

^^killing me

― Bianca Jagger (jaymc), Thursday, 30 April 2009 14:05 (sixteen years ago)

LOLOL

― Ant Attack.. (Ste), Thursday, 30 April 2009 14:06 (sixteen years ago)

ok all of these ftw

― sorry for british (country matters), Thursday, 30 April 2009 14:06 (sixteen years ago)

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/26/49431591_1f85a8689e.jpg

― ^ THIS IS WHY (I DIED), Thursday, 30 April 2009 14:07 (sixteen years ago)

i always loled hardest @ stuff like skip church's brunch place and the seaward but "analrapist" business card is 4ever <3 u tobias

― Lamp, Thursday, 30 April 2009 14:09 (sixteen years ago)

― congratulations (n/a), Thursday, April 30, 2009 2:03 PM (22 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

this is why michael is my favourite character

― s1ocki, Thursday, 30 April 2009 14:28 (sixteen years ago)

yeah michael's straight man is as good as it gets

― k3vin k., Thursday, 30 April 2009 14:31 (sixteen years ago)

tobias is no straight man

― stchick (stevie), Thursday, 30 April 2009 14:40 (sixteen years ago)

oh man, i'm gonna binge on like five eps of this today

― i like to fart and i am crazy (gbx), Thursday, 30 April 2009 14:44 (sixteen years ago)

george michael: omg quicken! ...did you keep the receipt?
michael: oh, why, do you want to return it?
GM: i want to deduct it!

― i like to fart and i am crazy (gbx), Thursday, 30 April 2009 14:45 (sixteen years ago)

my favorite line of all 3 seasons is still the very first...

M: GM, what do i always say comes first?
GM: breakfast?
M: Family, I always say family comes first.
GM: I thought you meant in the day

or something like that, it's really the timing they both have that destroys.

― dan selzer, Thursday, 30 April 2009 14:50 (sixteen years ago)

ya it's "i thought you meant of the things you eat"

― s1ocki, Thursday, 30 April 2009 14:53 (sixteen years ago)

bob loblaw's law blog

― EMPIRE STATE HYMEN (MPx4A), Thursday, 30 April 2009 15:35 (sixteen years ago)

"what a fun, sexy time for you."

― FREE DOM AND ETHAN (special guest stars mark bronson), Thursday, 30 April 2009 17:30 (sixteen years ago)

Gob: "It's not a trick, a trick is something a hooker does for money"
[kids look up at him]
Gob: "Or candy!"

― Adam Bruneau, Thursday, 30 April 2009 18:04 (sixteen years ago)

"Or cocaine!" (depending on which pilot)

― sonderangerbot, Thursday, 30 April 2009 18:07 (sixteen years ago)

the ol' bait and switch and switch and switch

― Hard House SugBanton (blueski), Thursday, 30 April 2009 18:10 (sixteen years ago)

Fuck! This thread has just given me a huge jonesing to spend the night watching AD but I just remembered (after like 20 minutes of looking for them) that i'd lent it all to my friend. ;_;

― 100,000 strawberries (a hoy hoy), Thursday, 30 April 2009 18:12 (sixteen years ago)

I could never part w/my AD dvds. I let a friend borrow all of my Lost dvds, but not AD.

― Nicodle Otago (Nicole), Thursday, 30 April 2009 18:28 (sixteen years ago)

buster thinking the blue on the map is land!!!

― dan selzer, Thursday, 30 April 2009 19:25 (sixteen years ago)

buster having sex with the roomba because it replaced the maid and because he became a cyborg.

― dan selzer, Thursday, 30 April 2009 19:25 (sixteen years ago)

watching the pilot right now

― congratulations (n/a), Thursday, 30 April 2009 19:26 (sixteen years ago)

"Go back from whence you CAME!" hurls dead dove into the ocean.

― DavidM, Thursday, 30 April 2009 19:37 (sixteen years ago)

i guess i should re-watch all of this before the movie comes out

― cutty, Thursday, 30 April 2009 19:38 (sixteen years ago)

Just got back from seeing State of Play. Didn't know Jason Bateman was in it. He's pretty good. Gets beaten up by Ben Affleck though.

― DavidM, Thursday, 30 April 2009 19:40 (sixteen years ago)

probly my favorite scene of the series, not exactly quotable but when steve holt is like 'i'll never forget this dad' to gob and the music gets all piano weepy and gob eats the forget-me-now pill and is like 'i will'.

― MONUMENTAL_ARAB_HORSE.jpg (nickalicious), Thursday, 30 April 2009 19:42 (sixteen years ago)

George Michael: Dad, I want to work more hours at the banana stand.
Michael: ...I’ll tell you what: I’m going to give you a promotion. Welcome aboard, Mr. Manager.
George Michael: Wow. I’m Mr. Manager.
Michael: Well, manager; we just say “manager.” And you can hire an employee if you need one.
George Michael: Do you think I need one?
Michael: Don’t look at me, Mr. Manager.
George Michael: Right, it’s up to me now. I’m Mr. Manager.
Michael: Manager. We-we just say, uh…
George Michael: I know, but you…
Michael: Doesn’t matter who.

― congratulations (n/a), Thursday, 30 April 2009 19:50 (sixteen years ago)

^^^ best

― s1ocki, Thursday, 30 April 2009 20:07 (sixteen years ago)

another example of why michael is the man

― s1ocki, Thursday, 30 April 2009 20:07 (sixteen years ago)

Am still tempted to buy bootlegged It's Your Move dvds off of ebay.

― Nicole, Thursday, 30 April 2009 20:27 (sixteen years ago)

yeah so i've watched like 6 of these today

― i like to fart and i am crazy (gbx), Thursday, 30 April 2009 20:59 (sixteen years ago)

I can't wait to watch more tonight.

"what a fun, sexy time for you."

― FREE DOM AND ETHAN (special guest stars mark bronson), Thursday, April 30, 2009 1:30 PM (3 hours ago) Bookmark

So awesome.

― ENBB, Thursday, 30 April 2009 21:03 (sixteen years ago)

buster having sex with the roomba because it replaced the maid and because he became a cyborg.

haha and throwing the dustbuster at the bus driving past, that always cracked me up.

― Ant Attack.. (Ste), Thursday, 30 April 2009 21:04 (sixteen years ago)

something that's hard to capture in this thread is david cross' physical comedy, like how he jumps on the stage when he's directing the school play or how he creeps around maggie liser's house when he's being "invisible"

― congratulations (n/a), Thursday, 30 April 2009 21:14 (sixteen years ago)

yeah--his vodka slip in season 2 in the house after Lucille has been there is great

― Mr. Que, Thursday, 30 April 2009 21:17 (sixteen years ago)

that post makes no sense

― Mr. Que, Thursday, 30 April 2009 21:17 (sixteen years ago)

n/a otm

― sorry for british (country matters), Thursday, 30 April 2009 21:18 (sixteen years ago)

season 3 also has tobias' hair catching on fire, and him jumping into the tricked pool off-screen

― The Devil's Avocado (Gukbe), Thursday, 30 April 2009 22:33 (sixteen years ago)

"Make love in yr own hand mother!"

Gob: "Have you seen the new Poof?"
Michael: "His names Gary and we don't need any more lawsuits."
Gob: "No I was talking about the magazine. Wait, Gary's gay, I bet he thought I was coming on to him."

http://burythehammer.files.wordpress.com/2009/04/poof.jpg?w=510&h=284

― 100,000 strawberries (a hoy hoy), Thursday, 30 April 2009 22:40 (sixteen years ago)

fwiw "My own brother" a la GOB is now a meme between myself and my brothers

― sorry for british (country matters), Thursday, 30 April 2009 22:42 (sixteen years ago)

buster's "hey, brother" is a meme between me and my bro.

― Suggesteban Cambiasso (jim), Thursday, 30 April 2009 22:43 (sixteen years ago)

Tobias (to Michael): You know?, first of all, we are doing this for her, okay. Because neither one of us wants to get divorced. And second-of-ly, I know you’re the big marriage expert... Oh, I’m sorry, I forgot. Your wife is dead.

(Michael & Lindsay stare at him. He realizes)

I’m sorry. That was 100% inappropriate and I do apologize profusely. I’m... Oh... (gets up and leaves)

― Mulvaney, Thursday, 30 April 2009 22:46 (sixteen years ago)

we can build houses, we can win games (some sort of sign of the structural shittiness of the model home) ... we can win games.

― Suggesteban Cambiasso (jim), Thursday, 30 April 2009 22:47 (sixteen years ago)

fwiw "My own brother" a la GOB is now a meme between myself and my brothers

― sorry for british (country matters), Thursday, 30 April 2009 23:42 (Yesterday) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

buster's "hey, brother" is a meme between me and my bro.

― Suggesteban Cambiasso (jim), Thursday, 30 April 2009 23:43 (Yesterday) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

^^^^^^^^ also i am michael and my brother is CLEARLY GOB

― stchick (stevie), Friday, 1 May 2009 08:39 (sixteen years ago)

This kind of agility?
http://farm1.static.flickr.com/223/511011836_56ae92ec1a_o.gif

― Number None, Friday, 1 May 2009 12:15 (sixteen years ago)

Sam presses Print Screen while watching Arrested Development Pt: 2:

http://burythehammer.files.wordpress.com/2009/05/shemale.jpg?w=300&h=214

― Trust (a hoy hoy), Friday, 1 May 2009 12:24 (sixteen years ago)

guys i think this is

a bob loblaw law blog:

http://appellatedecisions.blogspot.com/

― tuppence b. bag (roxymuzak), Saturday, 2 May 2009 01:23 (sixteen years ago)

George Bluth: I'm paying thousands of dollars in Krugerrands. You mother snuck them in here, stuffed them in energy bar wrappers, to keep me from getting strangled in the shower, or worse.
Lindsay: Stabbed?
George: In a way.

― bachmann boehner overdrive (kenan), Saturday, 2 May 2009 01:40 (sixteen years ago)

It's an obvious bump-and-spike, but I love how it's almost vaudevillian.

― bachmann boehner overdrive (kenan), Saturday, 2 May 2009 01:46 (sixteen years ago)

dad you're doing time

i'm doing the TIME of my LIFE

― MONUMENTAL_ARAB_HORSE.jpg (nickalicious), Saturday, 2 May 2009 01:55 (sixteen years ago)

"Gob charged at Michael with the scissors, but Michael, as he always did, picked rock, which beat scissors. Unfortunately, the whole incident was covered by the paper."

― I wish he hadn't adapted my critique of his "ilxor" moniker (Myonga Vön Bontee), Saturday, 2 May 2009 07:14 (sixteen years ago)

HAHA i missed that ending paper gag part the first time round

― Ant Attack.. (Ste), Saturday, 2 May 2009 10:14 (sixteen years ago)

oh my god when the black and white gay cops are sperm donors and don't want to know who is the real father.

― Trust (a hoy hoy), Sunday, 3 May 2009 17:35 (sixteen years ago)

i watched every episode of this this week in a really weird order. Season 3 first, then season 2, then the third dvd of season 1, then the first and second dvds of it. Then I watched Season 2 episode 2, "Switch hitter" last night with my friends while waiting for the boxing to come on.

― Suggesteban Cambiasso (jim), Sunday, 3 May 2009 17:40 (sixteen years ago)

good week!

― Suggesteban Cambiasso (jim), Sunday, 3 May 2009 17:40 (sixteen years ago)

"Then: Do you want some foam in your coffee? It's called a 'kappakino', and wait'll you hear what it costs!"

― sktsh, Monday, 4 May 2009 00:14 (sixteen years ago)

sometimes i just have to think about the corn baller, and i'll be giddy for a series of minutes

― stchick (stevie), Monday, 4 May 2009 00:25 (sixteen years ago)

oh my god when the black and white gay cops are sperm donors and don't want to know who is the real father.

― Trust (a hoy hoy), Sunday, May 3, 2009 1:35 PM (7 hours ago)

yesssssss. i didnt get it for a split second but had to pause that shit when it hit me

― slow lorax (k3vin k.), Monday, 4 May 2009 01:21 (sixteen years ago)

"how do you know steve holt? are you in AA?" had me in stitches

― Trust (a hoy hoy), Monday, 4 May 2009 18:02 (sixteen years ago)

been rewatching this again like many. great to catch some bits i missed first time eg the scene where tobias first auditions in front of carl weathers, the way he says "i'm the laaaaaaast guy you wanna mess with" or something with like next to no vigour at all. priceless.

― Hard House SugBanton (blueski), Tuesday, 5 May 2009 18:27 (sixteen years ago)

I love when Tobias is forlornly looking at all the custom license plates he'd made for parts he never ended up with, and the last one says DR HOUSE.

― fillibustar superstar! (Abbott), Tuesday, 5 May 2009 18:29 (sixteen years ago)

ha i've been rewatching these too, my new favorite joke that doesn't translate to text is when gob is in the hospital after getting shivved, and lucille says something like "i'm going to the hospital bar," and michael says "you know there isn't a bar in the hospital" and she responds "no wonder people hate hospitals" and laughs at her own joke as she leaves and then a second later you hear her laughing even harder off camera <- the timing of this is genius

― congratulations (n/a), Tuesday, 5 May 2009 18:42 (sixteen years ago)

Another great joke: the family admit they drugged and knocked out Rita and Michael leaves, then Lucille remarks 'no deed goes unpunished'. i be lolling.

― Trust (a hoy hoy), Wednesday, 6 May 2009 17:45 (sixteen years ago)

handbraking series 2 to my ipod just now

― Britain's Obtusest Shepherd (Alan), Wednesday, 6 May 2009 17:59 (sixteen years ago)

sorry to derail - but is HandBrake worth it?

― baaderonixx, Thursday, 7 May 2009 13:18 (sixteen years ago)

If you want to watch stuff on your iPod/PSP, its pretty good.

― Prince of Persia (Ed), Thursday, 7 May 2009 13:25 (sixteen years ago)

it's free if that's what you mean

― caek, Thursday, 7 May 2009 13:25 (sixteen years ago)

It works and it was simple enough for me to explain to my dad how to use it.

― Prince of Persia (Ed), Thursday, 7 May 2009 13:29 (sixteen years ago)

thanks - I've been using another program til now but it's not very user friendly so this looks pretty good.

― baaderonixx, Thursday, 7 May 2009 13:58 (sixteen years ago)

(p.s. They removed the DVD decoding library due to legal concerns, so if you're ripping from DVD rather than transcoding files you've downloaded then it won't work out of the box. But it will use a DVD ripping library it's installed on your machine. Easiest way to do that is just to put a recent version VLC in your Applications directory.)

― caek, Thursday, 7 May 2009 14:20 (sixteen years ago)

Michael: Oh, it's just my mum. She's most probably worried about my dad's hearing.
Marta: Oh, with my dad it's the vision.

― Call out (a hoy hoy), Thursday, 14 May 2009 21:37 (sixteen years ago)

oh man been watching these again,

particularly favourite moment in the episode 'afteroon delight' and the office xmas party, Gob develops a huge stuttering attack and can't get past the word "should".

that's badly described by me, but fuck me it's a funny scene.

― Ant Attack.. (Ste), Friday, 15 May 2009 13:18 (sixteen years ago)

i recognise this scene and you are surely right ste!

― fudd on the low (stevie), Friday, 15 May 2009 13:27 (sixteen years ago)

"it's as Ann as the nose on plain's face"

― Hard House SugBanton (blueski), Tuesday, 26 May 2009 10:31 (sixteen years ago)

also been rewatching this show, tony wonder is pretty much the funniest ben stiller is ever going to be in anything

― excuse me coop while i try my hand at a little counter esperanto (nickalicious), Tuesday, 26 May 2009 20:42 (sixteen years ago)

two months pass...

still love this show

http://i50.photobucket.com/albums/f325/caek/gob-wedding.gif

― caek, Sunday, 2 August 2009 00:15 (sixteen years ago)

one month passes...

http://www.moviefone.com/unscripted/extract/350/extract-unscripted-complete-interview/35664696001

this is fun

― the fleet bon fox jumped iver the blank dog (k3vin k.), Saturday, 5 September 2009 19:25 (sixteen years ago)

one month passes...

jessica walters on svu!

― tehresa, Thursday, 8 October 2009 05:26 (sixteen years ago)

errr, apparently it is walter. oops.

― tehresa, Thursday, 8 October 2009 05:26 (sixteen years ago)

it was nice to see Alia Shawkat in Amreeka

― Nhex, Thursday, 8 October 2009 05:54 (sixteen years ago)

xpost I have that problem all the time!
(getting called walters not walter)

― wilter, Thursday, 8 October 2009 05:55 (sixteen years ago)

three weeks pass...

so i watched the first two eps of this the other day

verict: gay as hell did not laff once http://i43.tinypic.com/dggkra.jpg

― candice spergin (cankles), Friday, 30 October 2009 03:22 (fifteen years ago)

^^^^^ real talk

― velko, Friday, 30 October 2009 03:23 (fifteen years ago)

it gets much gayer, don't worry

― RAPTOBER (sic), Friday, 30 October 2009 03:53 (fifteen years ago)

SBd cankles for lack of taste

― beloved ilx character (King Boy Pato), Friday, 30 October 2009 04:00 (fifteen years ago)

don't think I'm gonna read this 1600 post thread atm but I just recently finished season three and it might be my favorite season

― 囧 (dyao), Friday, 30 October 2009 08:28 (fifteen years ago)

one year passes...

http://i.imgur.com/dQGAJ.jpg

― kanellos (gbx), Thursday, 16 December 2010 19:34 (fourteen years ago)

just had to wait for Michael Cera's film career to tank

― from the lowly milligeir to the mighty gigahongro (Shakey Mo Collier), Thursday, 16 December 2010 19:35 (fourteen years ago)

neeeeeeeeeerds

― A B C, Thursday, 16 December 2010 19:35 (fourteen years ago)

At first I was like, "Wait, development isn't even starting until Fall 2012? When the hell is this going to come out?"

― Vaguely Threatening CAPTCHAs, Thursday, 16 December 2010 19:44 (fourteen years ago)

even lolling at silhouette of gob with dove

― modrić in paradise (blueski), Thursday, 16 December 2010 19:53 (fourteen years ago)

is that real? looks wrong on # of levels

― caek, Thursday, 16 December 2010 20:20 (fourteen years ago)

that is definitely just something that made its way from deviantart to tumblr

― A B C, Thursday, 16 December 2010 20:28 (fourteen years ago)

two weeks pass...

http://28.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_ld6xqaxDyq1qa9yvvo1_500.jpg

― caek, Tuesday, 4 January 2011 13:50 (fourteen years ago)

I love when there's a flashback to all of them in the '90s trying to figure out a fundraiser & George is reading off little slips of paper w/anonymous suggestions. "Ovarian cancer. Gee, I wonder who that was."

― Stop Non-Erotic Cabaret (Abbbottt), Tuesday, 4 January 2011 14:11 (fourteen years ago)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LsuvBrXcm0Q

― Telephoneface (Adam Bruneau), Tuesday, 4 January 2011 16:50 (fourteen years ago)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=emgXwYWqd9Y

― omar little, Tuesday, 4 January 2011 19:06 (fourteen years ago)

ha ha I still say BEES?!?! anytime anyone says "beads" or anything sounding remotely close to "beads"

i'm a lot of fun

― congratulations (n/a), Tuesday, 4 January 2011 19:37 (fourteen years ago)

jokes about michael's late wife were some of the most hilarious/devastating of the show

― fruit of the goon (k3vin k.), Tuesday, 4 January 2011 21:48 (fourteen years ago)

http://29.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_l77ve2MHY41qzkiy8o1_500.png

― caek, Tuesday, 4 January 2011 23:58 (fourteen years ago)

Cera is actually good in this whahappened

― pomp la familia (Hurting 2), Tuesday, 4 January 2011 23:59 (fourteen years ago)

Jesse Eisenberg was like "so what I sampled your schtick, you was usin' it wrong"

― pomp la familia (Hurting 2), Wednesday, 5 January 2011 00:00 (fourteen years ago)

lol caek where are these from?

― Stop Non-Erotic Cabaret (Abbbottt), Wednesday, 5 January 2011 00:04 (fourteen years ago)

cera has never been *bad* in anything afaik, he's just kind of playing variants of the same character and it gets a little samey after awhile.

― omar little, Wednesday, 5 January 2011 00:06 (fourteen years ago)

http://fuckyeaharresteddevelopment.tumblr.com/

― caek, Wednesday, 5 January 2011 00:09 (fourteen years ago)

http://30.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_leefflCENg1qb3e6ho1_500.jpg

― omar little, Wednesday, 5 January 2011 00:10 (fourteen years ago)

I can't believe how hard I am laughing at these Arrested Development images. It doesn't take much to please me.

― Stop Non-Erotic Cabaret (Abbbottt), Wednesday, 5 January 2011 00:13 (fourteen years ago)

http://27.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lbqqarm1SK1qzspj4o1_500.jpg

― Stop Non-Erotic Cabaret (Abbbottt), Wednesday, 5 January 2011 00:15 (fourteen years ago)

http://26.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_l4wmtk7v3F1qa552do1_r1_500.png

― caek, Wednesday, 5 January 2011 00:15 (fourteen years ago)

http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_l55g7gTHtL1qa9uzoo1_500.jpg

― caek, Wednesday, 5 January 2011 00:15 (fourteen years ago)

ha ha I still say BEES?!?! anytime anyone says "beads" or anything sounding remotely close to "beads"
i'm a lot of fun

Ha - we are partners in crime here. NEVER CHANGE.

― phantoms from a world gone by speak again the immortal tale: (Jenny), Wednesday, 5 January 2011 00:16 (fourteen years ago)

yeah this happens pretty much anytime we drive by the beads store down the street or we need beans at the supermarket.

― omar little, Wednesday, 5 January 2011 00:19 (fourteen years ago)

http://26.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_l2ooqrV1461qahch2o1_500.png

― Stop Non-Erotic Cabaret (Abbbottt), Wednesday, 5 January 2011 00:22 (fourteen years ago)

i said it at the NYE party the other night because we were talking about beets

― congratulations (n/a), Wednesday, 5 January 2011 00:23 (fourteen years ago)

haha xp

― caek, Wednesday, 5 January 2011 00:33 (fourteen years ago)

"The seal is for marksmanship, and the gorilla is for sand racing."

― Stop Non-Erotic Cabaret (Abbbottt), Wednesday, 5 January 2011 00:34 (fourteen years ago)

^ rip rollie pimperton

― Urban Coochie Collective (sic), Wednesday, 5 January 2011 00:43 (fourteen years ago)

"Gene Parmesan"

http://static.tumblr.com/r9clalb/9ymlebnxv/lucille-animated-gif-arrested-development-3695222-275-155.gif

― idgi fridays (blueski), Wednesday, 5 January 2011 00:59 (fourteen years ago)

two months pass...

http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lg6jbrMaWI1qedjl3o1_500.gif

― caek, Wednesday, 9 March 2011 20:31 (fourteen years ago)

― F-Unit (Ste), Wednesday, 9 March 2011 22:26 (fourteen years ago)

two months pass...

what is the story here?

http://awesomepeoplehangingouttogether.tumblr.com/photo/1280/1451564149/1/tumblr_l73szhWRGg1qz8rb6

― caek, Thursday, 26 May 2011 15:02 (fourteen years ago)

two dicks acting like dicks?

― 40% chill and 100% negative (Tracer Hand), Thursday, 26 May 2011 15:04 (fourteen years ago)

kind of hope they are with the islam4uk bros at wooton bassett

― caek, Thursday, 26 May 2011 15:04 (fourteen years ago)

i mean seriously, that's a remembrance parade right? not just some royal drive by

― caek, Thursday, 26 May 2011 15:05 (fourteen years ago)

i'm sure there's something very clever involved, just under the surface

― 40% chill and 100% negative (Tracer Hand), Thursday, 26 May 2011 15:10 (fourteen years ago)

subverting the dick paradigm from within, or something

― 40% chill and 100% negative (Tracer Hand), Thursday, 26 May 2011 15:11 (fourteen years ago)

don't they have a new show together. i hope it's from that.

― caek, Thursday, 26 May 2011 15:12 (fourteen years ago)

Yeah, it's from David's new(ish) show "The Increasingly Poor Decisions of Todd Margaret," I think.

― Jouster, Thursday, 26 May 2011 16:44 (fourteen years ago)

yep.

― Midworst (jjjusten), Thursday, 26 May 2011 16:48 (fourteen years ago)

yeah, it's from a couple of years ago now - at least, I got the pilot that long ago (but haven't got around to watching yet...)

― the man who forsook his wife for fap fap fap (sic), Friday, 27 May 2011 00:07 (fourteen years ago)

Watch it! You'll love it, I'm sure.

― El-Adrel, Sunday, 29 May 2011 08:49 (fourteen years ago)

so I went looking for it and couldn't find it, but did dig up what may be a pilot or may be a whole series of Human Giant, so I'll check that out

― the man who forsook his wife for fap fap fap (sic), Monday, 30 May 2011 02:29 (fourteen years ago)

one month passes...

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/07/07/arrested-development-movie-happening-jeffrey-tambor_n_892430.html

― in an arrangement that mimics idiocy (Michael White), Thursday, 7 July 2011 19:44 (fourteen years ago)

two months pass...

New series before the film. Yay!

― Moon Fuxx (Jill), Sunday, 2 October 2011 21:04 (fourteen years ago)

huh?

― Number None, Sunday, 2 October 2011 21:12 (fourteen years ago)

somebody just mentioned this on my twitter feed. explain what you know.

― Rory's new misogynist car (Gukbe), Sunday, 2 October 2011 21:13 (fourteen years ago)

yeah, link would be appreciated. i just read it on twitter.

― you've got male (jim in glasgow), Sunday, 2 October 2011 21:13 (fourteen years ago)

mitch hurwitz speaking at the new yorker festival says that he plans on doing a final season of the show--one ep per character, catching up on the last 5 years--that would lead into the movie

unclear if this is "whats actually going to happen" or "what mitch hurwitz would do in a perfect world"

― max, Sunday, 2 October 2011 21:14 (fourteen years ago)

http://twitter.com/#!/ditzkoff/statuses/120599071613403137

http://twitter.com/lovethebay/statuses/120599156615168000

― max, Sunday, 2 October 2011 21:15 (fourteen years ago)

Somehow this gives me even less hope of anything happening

― Number None, Sunday, 2 October 2011 21:17 (fourteen years ago)

is this going to be before or after the 12 hour Running Wilde mini and the Sit Down, Shut Up theatrical release? srs question and I ask this as someone who loved Arrested Development in college: are we sure that Hurwitz can still be funny in 2011?

― Mordy, Sunday, 2 October 2011 21:18 (fourteen years ago)

Well if it does happen i would be hopeful that writing for those characters would do quite a bit of the work

― Number None, Sunday, 2 October 2011 21:23 (fourteen years ago)

MORDY -

You forgot that Michael Strahan show where Carl Weathers was th' dad.

― Work Hard, Flunky! (R Baez), Sunday, 2 October 2011 21:27 (fourteen years ago)

can't wait for this to air on hulu+

― yung huma (J0rdan S.), Sunday, 2 October 2011 21:31 (fourteen years ago)

Just to add to the above:

batemanjason Jason Bateman
by arnettwill
It's true. We will do 10 episodes and the movie. Probably shoot them all together next summer for a release in early '13. VERY excited!

― jon /via/ chi 2.0, Sunday, 2 October 2011 23:27 (fourteen years ago)

WHOO 1.5 YEARS CAN'T WAIT

― yung huma (J0rdan S.), Sunday, 2 October 2011 23:31 (fourteen years ago)

i think i'm gonna go stand in line, actually

― yung huma (J0rdan S.), Sunday, 2 October 2011 23:32 (fourteen years ago)

calm down

this could be awesome

― k3vin k., Sunday, 2 October 2011 23:33 (fourteen years ago)

i'm gonna sirsumvent the line

― kinder, Sunday, 2 October 2011 23:36 (fourteen years ago)

I'm excited for this.

― ilx user 'silby' (silby), Monday, 3 October 2011 00:39 (fourteen years ago)

cannot possibly avoid being a letdown

― mookieproof, Monday, 3 October 2011 00:39 (fourteen years ago)

The only and most essential question is how they will deal with the grown-up George Michael's wardrobe.

― I'll show you the power of laughter! (Abbbottt), Monday, 3 October 2011 00:48 (fourteen years ago)

cannot possibly avoid being a letdown

I agree, I would rather they not do it.

― DaTruf (Nicole), Monday, 3 October 2011 01:02 (fourteen years ago)

nah i don't agree w/ that -- i mean, there are prob unreasonably high expectations but unless it's just unbelievably bad, i don't think things like this sully the work that is being revered in the first place

― yung huma (J0rdan S.), Monday, 3 October 2011 01:04 (fourteen years ago)

xps http://img2.timeinc.net/people/i/2010/stylewatch/blog/100118/michael-cera-01-300x400.jpg

― kinder, Monday, 3 October 2011 01:05 (fourteen years ago)

i didn't realize michael cera remade weird science

― Mordy, Monday, 3 October 2011 01:07 (fourteen years ago)

I'll be happy if it exists, even if it's just ok or even kinda bad but full of fanservicey in-jokes. There's only 18 hours of Arrested Development, another 5 or so could feel like a new revelation or something.

― ilx user 'silby' (silby), Monday, 3 October 2011 02:06 (fourteen years ago)

Yeah me too. Currently re-watching AD for the first time in a couple of years (a while back there was always at least one of the DVDs on rotation at our place) so I'm enjoying the rest of the internet joining in with AD references right now.

― kinder, Monday, 3 October 2011 02:18 (fourteen years ago)

I feel like this is the TV version of the Pixies reunion.

― She Got the Shakes, Monday, 3 October 2011 16:01 (fourteen years ago)

except for the part where people care about this

― yung huma (J0rdan S.), Monday, 3 October 2011 16:01 (fourteen years ago)

lol @ J0rdan

― jon /via/ chi 2.0, Monday, 3 October 2011 16:03 (fourteen years ago)

people too young to remember comedy

― incredibly middlebrow (Dr Morbius), Monday, 3 October 2011 16:04 (fourteen years ago)

yeah I kinda fear that this could suck but what the hell

― frogbs, Monday, 3 October 2011 16:15 (fourteen years ago)

http://26.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lsgpjqcFXU1qzsaa6o1_500.jpg

― mookieproof, Monday, 3 October 2011 23:20 (fourteen years ago)

oh for the love of christ

― yung huma (J0rdan S.), Monday, 3 October 2011 23:21 (fourteen years ago)

paul simon?!

― Mordy, Monday, 3 October 2011 23:27 (fourteen years ago)

http://kamertunesblog.files.wordpress.com/2011/08/paul-simon-photo-with-moustache.jpg

― Mordy, Monday, 3 October 2011 23:27 (fourteen years ago)

paul simon's mustache was much less pedophiley

― horseshoe, Monday, 3 October 2011 23:27 (fourteen years ago)

alia shawkat looks great, at least

― horseshoe, Monday, 3 October 2011 23:28 (fourteen years ago)

If that picture gives any indication, the best thing for Michael Cera's career at this point would be to be cast as a creepy lone gunman-type. I'm not even being ironic here. That might actually be good.

― wow_and_stutter, Monday, 3 October 2011 23:30 (fourteen years ago)

I'm not even being ironic here.

well that makes one of you

― yung huma (J0rdan S.), Monday, 3 October 2011 23:32 (fourteen years ago)

Well, it would be more interesting than playing yet another milquetoast quasi-hipster guy.

― wow_and_stutter, Monday, 3 October 2011 23:36 (fourteen years ago)

michael cera is in a biopic about max??

― Roberto Spiralli, Monday, 3 October 2011 23:57 (fourteen years ago)

one month passes...

Guess this is actually happening
http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/entertainmentnewsbuzz/2011/11/netflix-to-bring-back-arrested-development.html

― Number None, Saturday, 19 November 2011 02:27 (thirteen years ago)

http://www.lovefortech.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/09/qwikster_twitter2.jpg

― markers, Saturday, 19 November 2011 02:28 (thirteen years ago)

I wish I could be excited about this, but then I remember Running Wilde.

― bouquet beatdown (Nicole), Saturday, 19 November 2011 02:57 (thirteen years ago)

a show that was famously ruined by meddling network execs?

be excited imo

― the jazz zinger (s1ocki), Saturday, 19 November 2011 17:46 (thirteen years ago)

c'mon that was never gonna be a great show in some imaginary ideal creative environment

― some dude, Saturday, 19 November 2011 17:53 (thirteen years ago)

four months pass...

Speaking on the floor of the National Association of Broadcasters convention, Netflix chief Ted Sarandos confirmed that all ten episodes of Arrested's long-awaited fourth season will premiere together on a single day sometime next year

― mizzell, Wednesday, 18 April 2012 17:37 (thirteen years ago)

Viewing party at my house.

― raw feel vegan (silby), Wednesday, 18 April 2012 17:37 (thirteen years ago)

whoa

― A Little Princess btw (s1ocki), Wednesday, 18 April 2012 17:38 (thirteen years ago)

some other details here
http://www.vulture.com/2012/04/mitch-hurwitz-talks-arrested-development-20.html

― mizzell, Wednesday, 18 April 2012 17:40 (thirteen years ago)

that's a really weird way to do things

― iatee, Wednesday, 18 April 2012 17:40 (thirteen years ago)

four months pass...

http://www.vulture.com/2012/09/mitch-hurwitz-on-reviving-arrested-development.html

― sktsh, Tuesday, 4 September 2012 16:16 (thirteen years ago)

three weeks pass...

http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_mavnkdXvvf1qayzzqo1_500.jpg

― carl agatha, Saturday, 29 September 2012 22:25 (thirteen years ago)

Carl Weathers is back.

― Cunga, Saturday, 29 September 2012 22:26 (thirteen years ago)

two weeks pass...

my apologies if this has been linked before but it's pretty excellent. i thought i had caught most of the subtle jokes upon the 5th or so viewing of this show but looks like I missed a LOT

http://splitsider.com/2012/08/53-arrested-development-jokes-you-probably-missed/

(although I definitely got the Homer Simpson one!!)

― frogbs, Wednesday, 17 October 2012 23:03 (thirteen years ago)

three weeks pass...

right click blah blah blah

http://i.imgur.com/ysIsc.jpg

― pplains, Saturday, 10 November 2012 02:32 (twelve years ago)

two weeks pass...

I got a scoop on a gag from the new season

minor spoiler:

Michael Bluth drives the Google Maps car now.

― Cunga, Tuesday, 27 November 2012 20:25 (twelve years ago)

three weeks pass...

http://splitsider.com/2012/12/netflix-instant-adds-a-bunch-of-fake-arrested-development-shows-and-movies/

― sktsh, Wednesday, 19 December 2012 21:40 (twelve years ago)

I FUCKING LOVE THIS SHOW.

I'm pretty shocked it a full season since no one is watching it. The only bad part is the Ron Howard voiceover...no need for it.

― don weiner, Monday, December 15, 2003 1:52 PM (9 years ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

― Emperor Cos Dashit (Adam Bruneau), Wednesday, 19 December 2012 22:11 (twelve years ago)

kinda weird that the new arrested development is gonna be about identity theft

― 乒乓, Tuesday, 25 December 2012 21:32 (twelve years ago)

three months pass...

http://www.indiewire.com/article/television/netflix-sets-a-premiere-date-for-arrested-development-and-ups-the-season-to-15-episodes

― johnny crunch, Thursday, 4 April 2013 12:08 (twelve years ago)

Due to budget reasons and the fact that the cast is now considerably more famous and harder to book all at once, the new episodes were written to each focus on a particular character's journey since the end of the show, with the family -- Michael Bluth (Jason Bateman), George Michael (Michael Cera), George Bluth Sr. (Jeffrey Tambor), Lucille (Jessica Walter), Gob (Will Arnett), Buster (Tony Hale), Lindsay (Portia de Rossi) and Tobias Fünke (David Cross) and Maeby (Alia Shawkat) -- reportedly only really reunited in full at the end.

Hmmmm.

― Matt DC, Thursday, 4 April 2013 12:17 (twelve years ago)

Bummed about that detail but still STOKED FOR THE MADNESS

― media conglomerates are pedaling the same product (stevie), Thursday, 4 April 2013 13:12 (twelve years ago)

whoa i had no idea this was happening!

― k3vin k., Thursday, 4 April 2013 13:35 (twelve years ago)

Super-excited about this. Also super-terrified it won't be up to the standard of the initial run.

― bizarro gazzara, Thursday, 4 April 2013 13:54 (twelve years ago)

Any word if UK netflixers can get it?

― kinder, Thursday, 4 April 2013 13:54 (twelve years ago)

Oh I think the article says we can. Time to join!

― kinder, Thursday, 4 April 2013 13:55 (twelve years ago)

I'm starting to question if they can really pull this off. I mean you kind of have to give them the benefit of the doubt but do these kind of reunions ever really work out??

― frogbs, Thursday, 4 April 2013 14:03 (twelve years ago)

Besides that season of Curb that reunited the cast of Seinfeld, that is

― frogbs, Thursday, 4 April 2013 14:03 (twelve years ago)

Bateman:

Each character gets their own episode, and all the action happens at the same time. So it can only really work on Netflix, where these episodes are released on the same day. So like, you can stop my episode if you see Gob run by on his Segway, you can stop mine, click over to his, watch where he’s going. ‘Cause all the action happens at the same time ’cause it’s all just act one.

― HIGH-FIVES TO ALL MY COWORKERS AT THE QBERT SEX SWING (silby), Saturday, 13 April 2013 01:44 (twelve years ago)

hm dunno about that

― brony james (k3vin k.), Saturday, 13 April 2013 01:47 (twelve years ago)

So like, you can stop my episode if you see Gob run by on his Segway, you can stop mine, click over to his, watch where he’s going.

do not want

― johnny crunch, Saturday, 13 April 2013 01:47 (twelve years ago)

I dunno about you guys but I'm gonna watch all 15 simultaneously, I only need eight more devices.

― HIGH-FIVES TO ALL MY COWORKERS AT THE QBERT SEX SWING (silby), Saturday, 13 April 2013 01:50 (twelve years ago)

if they did it right, it would make sense as a linear, if disjointed, season, and cross-episode jokes would play like hilarious call-backs/easter eggs

― well if it isn't old 11 cameras simon (gbx), Saturday, 13 April 2013 01:55 (twelve years ago)

Zaireeka as the soundtrack.

― lazulum, Saturday, 13 April 2013 01:56 (twelve years ago)

hmmmm i know better than mitchell hurwitz

― zero dark (s1ocki), Saturday, 13 April 2013 01:57 (twelve years ago)

if they did it right, it would make sense as a linear, if disjointed, season, and cross-episode jokes would play like hilarious call-backs/easter eggs

― well if it isn't old 11 cameras simon (gbx), Friday, April 12, 2013 6:55 PM (4 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Probably how it will actually go. I probably won't be able to resist watching in a random order though. I love randomness.

― HIGH-FIVES TO ALL MY COWORKERS AT THE QBERT SEX SWING (silby), Saturday, 13 April 2013 02:00 (twelve years ago)

you're soooooooo random

― zero dark (s1ocki), Saturday, 13 April 2013 02:01 (twelve years ago)

I just like random numbers! I'm gonna buy a copy of A Million Random Digits someday.

― HIGH-FIVES TO ALL MY COWORKERS AT THE QBERT SEX SWING (silby), Saturday, 13 April 2013 04:02 (twelve years ago)

hmmmm i know better than mitchell hurwitz

― zero dark (s1ocki), Saturday, April 13, 2013 2:57 AM (7 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

<3 u slocki

― media conglomerates are pedaling the same product (stevie), Saturday, 13 April 2013 09:46 (twelve years ago)

I assume they'll have filmed scenes with each character for each episode but evidently there were logistical issues with getting each actor together for a sustained period of time. Not sure how funny it'll all be though, you could easily spin out Gob or Tobias for an entire half an hour but probably not Michael or Maeby.

Presumably there's also six more traditional episodes at the end, though.

I watched the Mexico/Gene Parmesan ep last night and it's still all-time.

― Matt DC, Saturday, 13 April 2013 09:58 (twelve years ago)

Meanwhile awesome cast addition.

I'm not sure I can think of another actor I'd rather see added to the mix.

― Matt DC, Saturday, 13 April 2013 10:00 (twelve years ago)

fuckin AWESOME

― media conglomerates are pedaling the same product (stevie), Saturday, 13 April 2013 11:00 (twelve years ago)

thats perf

― zero dark (s1ocki), Sunday, 14 April 2013 23:33 (twelve years ago)

loved him in desperate housewives

― brony james (k3vin k.), Sunday, 14 April 2013 23:35 (twelve years ago)

http://insidetv.ew.com/2013/04/25/arrested-development-buster-lucille/

― sktsh, Thursday, 25 April 2013 22:39 (twelve years ago)

two weeks pass...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C5ddjzGft0k

― sktsh, Monday, 13 May 2013 12:31 (twelve years ago)

PHOENIX JOKES

― West Egg Girls (King Boy Pato), Monday, 13 May 2013 12:35 (twelve years ago)

me irl http://awesomegifs.com/wp-content/uploads/lucille-buth-excited.gif

― kinder, Monday, 13 May 2013 16:47 (twelve years ago)

Looks funny!

― Emperor Cos Dashit (Adam Bruneau), Monday, 13 May 2013 18:01 (twelve years ago)

hey where'd my gif go?
I am excited, the gif conveyed

― kinder, Monday, 13 May 2013 18:57 (twelve years ago)

http://www.internetarchaeology.org/img/Moving/People/girlclap.gif

― Evan, Monday, 13 May 2013 19:23 (twelve years ago)

i've been watching 'running wilde' on netflix and

arrested development:running wilde :: freaks and geeks:undeclared

― congratulations (n/a), Monday, 20 May 2013 15:28 (twelve years ago)

I liked Undeclared! I could find almost no redeeming value in Running Wilde, and I had really wanted to like it.

― ...also i'm awesome (Nicole), Monday, 20 May 2013 15:37 (twelve years ago)

oh i like undeclared too. both shows just seem like attempts to take aspects of beloved, critically acclaimed, but cancelled shows and make them more palatable to a general audience (unsuccessfully). running wilde is not great but there are some good laughs scattered around in it.

― congratulations (n/a), Monday, 20 May 2013 15:47 (twelve years ago)

that's a shitty thinkpiece n/a

― da croupier, Monday, 20 May 2013 18:52 (twelve years ago)

we're gonna make tiny Skip's Scrambles--muffin-tin bacon cups filled with scrambled eggs, tater tots, and a mini donut.

― 0808ɹƃ (silby), Monday, 20 May 2013 19:39 (twelve years ago)

DON'T EAT THE SKIP'S SCRAMBLE

― West Egg Girls (King Boy Pato), Monday, 20 May 2013 21:21 (twelve years ago)

it was only the last time I watched the show that I got the "Miss Temple's" restaurant name.

― the girl from spirea x (f. hazel), Monday, 20 May 2013 21:34 (twelve years ago)

i'm still not getting it

― the bitcoin comic (thomp), Monday, 20 May 2013 21:56 (twelve years ago)

Variant of the "Skip Church" joke

― Øystein, Monday, 20 May 2013 22:03 (twelve years ago)

oh god

― 0808ɹƃ (silby), Monday, 20 May 2013 22:49 (twelve years ago)

;______:

― 0808ɹƃ (silby), Monday, 20 May 2013 22:49 (twelve years ago)

this is like the arrow in the fedex truck and "every kiss begins with Kay" all over again except even worse

― 0808ɹƃ (silby), Monday, 20 May 2013 22:50 (twelve years ago)

I mentioned that I literally have a friend flying in from out of time for this, right?

― 0808ɹƃ (silby), Friday, 24 May 2013 03:16 (twelve years ago)

if he's from the future then surely he's already seen these episodes

― you are not a better writer than f. scott fitzgerald. you are not a b (k3vin k.), Friday, 24 May 2013 03:27 (twelve years ago)

i want these episodes to leak.

― Treeship, Friday, 24 May 2013 03:29 (twelve years ago)

xp lol

― 0808ɹƃ (silby), Friday, 24 May 2013 03:32 (twelve years ago)

i'm loving that the av club, which has run multiple AD-related articles every day this week, today has a thinkpiece called "Will Internet-fueled anticipation kill our enjoyment of Arrested Development?"

― congratulations (n/a), Friday, 24 May 2013 14:23 (twelve years ago)

awesome

― da croupier, Friday, 24 May 2013 14:24 (twelve years ago)

ha. if this new season is even as good as the third season i'll be blown away and this will be so clearly the year of the unlikely comebacks that deliver i might start to actually believe we're gonna get a new d'angelo album.

― balls, Friday, 24 May 2013 16:41 (twelve years ago)

Last scene has George Michael rocking out to the new Neutral Milk Hotel album.

― Emperor Cos Dashit (Adam Bruneau), Friday, 24 May 2013 17:36 (twelve years ago)

http://www.sesameworkshop.org/our-blog/2013/05/24/herry-me/

― ohmigud (Merdeyeux), Friday, 24 May 2013 17:39 (twelve years ago)

― you are not a better writer than f. scott fitzgerald. you are not a b (k3vin k.), Sunday, 26 May 2013 04:07 (twelve years ago)

it doesn't seem to be up.

― Treeship, Sunday, 26 May 2013 04:07 (twelve years ago)

pacific time yall

― balls, Sunday, 26 May 2013 04:10 (twelve years ago)

three more hours

― Number None, Sunday, 26 May 2013 04:11 (twelve years ago)

ah. just learned that on twitter. my brother just said that this is "fucked up."

― Treeship, Sunday, 26 May 2013 04:11 (twelve years ago)

IMPORTANT TOBIAS MEME

http://mangoinyourmouth.com/

i don't think it was posted yet

look at the page source for extra lolz

― davey, Sunday, 26 May 2013 04:22 (twelve years ago)

this shit is live btw

― Clay, Sunday, 26 May 2013 07:03 (twelve years ago)

― balls, Sunday, 26 May 2013 07:48 (twelve years ago)

For the rest of the world this doesn't become real until there's a .torrent behind it.

― Popture, Sunday, 26 May 2013 08:21 (twelve years ago)

advance word is...not good

― Number None, Sunday, 26 May 2013 09:11 (twelve years ago)

first epi was...not funny

― cozen, Sunday, 26 May 2013 09:14 (twelve years ago)

watched the first three. it coasts a bunch on the goodwill you got toward the characters/various celebrity cameos, only one of the actual eps was any good imo

― thot police (fadanuf4erybody), Sunday, 26 May 2013 09:16 (twelve years ago)

i dunno, it seems like it hasn't had the shit edited out of it like the broadcast episodes did - weren't they always talking about how much extra footage they left out mining things for jokes? everything here seems kind of pokey. i'm only through four episodes, though, maybe it builds up.

― j., Sunday, 26 May 2013 09:46 (twelve years ago)

I feel like the Dr. Morbius of this show. Not only do I not get it, but I begrudge and think incorrect the opinions of those who do.

― Dan I., Sunday, 26 May 2013 10:40 (twelve years ago)

I don't know why i had to name some ilxor I don't even know like that. I just don't like AD. what's the deal with this show.

― Dan I., Sunday, 26 May 2013 10:43 (twelve years ago)

look, I was up all night drinking cheap brandy

― Dan I., Sunday, 26 May 2013 10:45 (twelve years ago)

That's a strong case against AD there

― mimicking regular benevloent (sic) users' names (President Keyes), Sunday, 26 May 2013 11:54 (twelve years ago)

Yeah I'm watching the first one, really kinda weak. But entertaining, kinda! I don't like Kristen Wiig and Seth Rogen in the flashbacks, they aren't nearly as funny as the original actors.

― Emperor Cos Dashit (Adam Bruneau), Sunday, 26 May 2013 14:59 (twelve years ago)

xps yeah i might have accidentally in the course of drunken conversation told a bunch of my friends i was excited for this show to come back because it seems like the thing they all want to talk about at the moment, but i remember finding the og 3 seasons not even close to actually funny, can't imagine the time off would address that

― sleepingbag, Sunday, 26 May 2013 15:13 (twelve years ago)

i like it cos it's funny

― conrad, Sunday, 26 May 2013 15:13 (twelve years ago)

Is it me or a the sound mix weird? I'm finding a lot of the dialogue really difficult to catch first time - not cause its fast'n'zingy, just a bit inaudible

― Chuck_Tatum, Sunday, 26 May 2013 15:28 (twelve years ago)

Is it me or is there a anti-piracy watermark on most of the older clips? Kinda weird since I'm watching it on Netflix and not torrent.

― Emperor Cos Dashit (Adam Bruneau), Sunday, 26 May 2013 15:41 (twelve years ago)

Readthe watermark closely...

― still they yacht me like (Eazy), Sunday, 26 May 2013 15:53 (twelve years ago)

My daughter woke up when we were watching it this morning and asked "Who is that old guy?" about Jason Bateman. I felt decrepit.

― ...also i'm awesome (Nicole), Sunday, 26 May 2013 15:53 (twelve years ago)

Is it me or is there a anti-piracy watermark on most of the older clips? Kinda weird since I'm watching it on Netflix and not torrent.

― Emperor Cos Dashit (Adam Bruneau), Sunday, May 26, 2013 11:41 AM (1 hour ago) Bookmark

this is my favorite ilx post of all time

― J0rdan S., Sunday, 26 May 2013 16:48 (twelve years ago)

there.... weren't any jokes in this episode?

― J0rdan S., Sunday, 26 May 2013 16:49 (twelve years ago)

@blainecapatch: i haven't heard about "arrested development" for five minutes so i'm assuming it's been cancelled again.

― Ste, Sunday, 26 May 2013 16:51 (twelve years ago)

there was the joke where gm wrote Da on his ballot lol

― conrad, Sunday, 26 May 2013 16:52 (twelve years ago)

yeah so is there funny shit in the other episodes cause that first one was basically terrible

― adam, Sunday, 26 May 2013 16:53 (twelve years ago)

the first ep is the most consistently funny with the best plot and acting and narration and special effects

― conrad, Sunday, 26 May 2013 16:55 (twelve years ago)

really kinda weak. But entertaining, kinda!

perfect criteria for contemporary American comedy in place

― ballin' from Maine to Mexico (Dr Morbius), Sunday, 26 May 2013 17:09 (twelve years ago)

ha this is ok

tweeeenz

― you are not a better writer than f. scott fitzgerald. you are not a b (k3vin k.), Sunday, 26 May 2013 17:12 (twelve years ago)

thats funny xpost

― conrad, Sunday, 26 May 2013 17:12 (twelve years ago)

the new episodes [of arrested development] look like literal garbage so you literally wont be missing anything

― 乒乓, Saturday, May 25, 2013 10:09 AM (Yesterday) Bookmark

i haven't watched the new eps but i would like to point out that i was otm

― 乒乓, Sunday, 26 May 2013 17:14 (twelve years ago)

winky emoji

― conrad, Sunday, 26 May 2013 17:14 (twelve years ago)

lol this is good you guys suck

― you are not a better writer than f. scott fitzgerald. you are not a b (k3vin k.), Sunday, 26 May 2013 17:28 (twelve years ago)

I'm on ep 9 right now and this is funny and good, k3vin otm, you guys suck

― 0808ɹƃ (silby), Sunday, 26 May 2013 18:09 (twelve years ago)

I like it. I'm not sure I care whether or not it's good.

― Treeship, Sunday, 26 May 2013 18:23 (twelve years ago)

The stuff about the ex-addict girl is cheap and unfunny though.

― Treeship, Sunday, 26 May 2013 18:24 (twelve years ago)

it's maria bamford tho

― 0808ɹƃ (silby), Sunday, 26 May 2013 18:27 (twelve years ago)

So what tho

― Treeship, Sunday, 26 May 2013 18:31 (twelve years ago)

spotty and the rhythm feels off at times but when it's in the zone it's as good as anyone could've hoped (ie as good as season 3). better than star trek: the animated series or star trek: the motion picture, not as good as season 7 of curb yr enthusiasm. really not crazy about the young george and lucille flashbacks (prefer the big comedy cameos to be quick and small - dan harmon, busy phillips, etc) but worth it for young barry zuckerkorn imo. crazy how even though it's hardly like he's gone anywhere i thought 'jesus he looks old, and WEIRD' when i first saw michael cera and even though i've kinda grown tired of will arnett as soon as he was gob again i was on board. laffed everytime at that watermark.

― balls, Sunday, 26 May 2013 18:55 (twelve years ago)

finding it difficult. pacing is weird. it all seems joyless -- i can handle 'not funny,' kind of, because i love the characters so much, but it seems very post-laura twin peaks

― I don't belong in that class (Jimmy The Mod Awaits The Return Of His Beloved), Sunday, 26 May 2013 20:26 (twelve years ago)

i'm trying to think of the last show (not futurama, tho that's similar) that had actors trying to re-assume roles that they kind of forgot how to play (or maybe it's the writing not being there for them) after there was a break in production or a long-after reunion or something. or maybe it's a combination of that (e.g. with di rossi, maybe arnett) and aging (shawkat).

too many 'topical jokes from our timez!'. but then i don't know if i've ever found any kind of reality tv spoof gag (like the storage unit show gag here) on any show to even border on laughworthy.

― j., Sunday, 26 May 2013 20:28 (twelve years ago)

Portia's eyebrows are not thick enough and I found that the most distracting of all.

― she started dancing to that (Finefinemusic), Sunday, 26 May 2013 21:22 (twelve years ago)

Portia's looking straight skeletal on a couple of these, in a sorta concerning way.

― thot police (fadanuf4erybody), Sunday, 26 May 2013 21:26 (twelve years ago)

original arrested development was super super topical. think this and last season of community make a strong argument for 'directors and editors matter a great deal w/ tv comedy'.

― balls, Sunday, 26 May 2013 21:34 (twelve years ago)

Wouldn't the topicality be in the script rather than the direction/editing..?

― sktsh, Sunday, 26 May 2013 21:38 (twelve years ago)

lol my two thoughts weren't meant to be connected there

― balls, Sunday, 26 May 2013 21:41 (twelve years ago)

read me as a modern day larry king

― balls, Sunday, 26 May 2013 21:42 (twelve years ago)

re topicality i know it was, it just seems… venerable ilx poster and what liked this idea that good comedy depends on observing and naming new/unappreciated social realities, facts, etc., and it seems like there's more of that sort of material that's second-hand here. which is only natural if you're aiming for like housing crisis and teenpop entourage scandal jokes after they happened, as if we really needed to catch up on what hurwitz et al thought about events that transpired while they were off-air.

would like to see a comparison of scene lengths between this and season 1. i feel like the character-by-character focus is a pretty significant factor in the lower intensity/slackness.

― j., Sunday, 26 May 2013 21:43 (twelve years ago)

The whole 'cinco de quarto' thing was just staggeringly unfunny (though I sorta like the name...). But the rest of the first episode was actually good!

― Frederik B, Sunday, 26 May 2013 21:44 (twelve years ago)

but i would still completely believe that it could all look very different on a second viewing. midway through i can start to see a buildup of gags of a sort that i assume could have been in the earlier episodes. even though hurwitz backed off the idea that you could watch in any order, it still sounds like he was pretty keen on the idea of writing to the all-at-once distribution/format, so there could very well be something to discover there.

― j., Sunday, 26 May 2013 21:46 (twelve years ago)

I can't wait to get to the end and find out if there's something about this ostrich.

Lucille's prison # says Hello if you read it upside down, I love cheap gags like that.

― she started dancing to that (Finefinemusic), Sunday, 26 May 2013 21:50 (twelve years ago)

o yeah, i was worried about that going in. i remember the simpsons decline for me started when they started to reduce the density of jokes and number of concurrent plot threads in an episode.

xpost

― balls, Sunday, 26 May 2013 21:59 (twelve years ago)

there.... weren't any jokes in this episode?
― J0rdan S., Sunday, May 26, 2013 4:49 PM (4 hours ago)

― klaus dingeldore's rhinelander monkey keeper father (forksclovetofu), Sunday, 26 May 2013 22:09 (twelve years ago)

i appreciate the entirety of workaholics showing up

― klaus dingeldore's rhinelander monkey keeper father (forksclovetofu), Sunday, 26 May 2013 22:14 (twelve years ago)

The whole 'cinco de quarto' thing was just staggeringly unfunny (though I sorta like the name...). But the rest of the first episode was actually good!

― Frederik B, Sunday, May 26, 2013 5:44 PM (33 minutes ago)

yeah the pacing was all off at the beginning (flashback was not very funny and too long) but the rest was good

― you are not a better writer than f. scott fitzgerald. you are not a b (k3vin k.), Sunday, 26 May 2013 22:19 (twelve years ago)

I laughed all the way through. Totally fucked up and I don't know if I actually know what happened but there's some great shit in there.

― 0808ɹƃ (silby), Sunday, 26 May 2013 22:21 (twelve years ago)

― j.,

This Life is the only example I can thin of this. They did This Life Plus Ten with most of the original actors who just seemed like they had completely forgotten how to play those original characters. The script was terrible too, it ruined the memory of a great show.

I watched the first five episodes of AD last night, didn't laugh once until the Tobias episode. It was kind of a drag going through those first three in particular, I kind of felt a little heartbroken.

― Kitchen Person, Sunday, 26 May 2013 22:29 (twelve years ago)

i have another show in mind, it completely escapes me though. maybe i'm thinking of the ilx cheers thread where someone mentions diane's return.

i did laugh at… SOMETHING in all the episodes i've seen so far. but sometimes not at what should have been the best things. like, should john slattery really steal his scenes from the main cast?

― j., Sunday, 26 May 2013 22:42 (twelve years ago)

http://www.nytimes.com/2013/05/27/arts/television/arrested-development-on-netflixcom.html?hpw&_r=0

mike hale pretty otm

― j., Sunday, 26 May 2013 23:05 (twelve years ago)

the ron howard bit is good?
i don't know why i'm watching this.

― klaus dingeldore's rhinelander monkey keeper father (forksclovetofu), Sunday, 26 May 2013 23:20 (twelve years ago)

I haven't seen this, but people should have tapered their expectations more after the depressing failures of Mitch Hurwitz's last two shows, which were brutally unfunny (and let's throw in his Thick Of It remake with Christopher Guest, which was also unbearable from what I've heard).

I'm curious what they do with John Slattery though, since he's the only reason I even think about watching Mad Men anymore.

― kaleb h. (Everything You Like Sucks), Sunday, 26 May 2013 23:20 (twelve years ago)

ftr: this is the best thing hurwitz has done since arrested development for sure

― balls, Sunday, 26 May 2013 23:24 (twelve years ago)

Yeah I'm finishing the 8th ep and that review is pretty otm so far. It is getting a little better the further along I get but it's still the worst AD yet.

― Emperor Cos Dashit (Adam Bruneau), Sunday, 26 May 2013 23:33 (twelve years ago)

Shame. I guess I'll follow Community Season 4 rules (dont watch, pretend ever happened)

― Chuck_Tatum, Sunday, 26 May 2013 23:58 (twelve years ago)

"I'm John Beard, and I'm a Gloomy Gus!"

― Huston we got chicken lol (Phil D.), Monday, 27 May 2013 00:31 (twelve years ago)

i got through five episodes and wondered what i was doing with my life
i don't find this appreciably better or worse than prior seasons btw

― klaus dingeldore's rhinelander monkey keeper father (forksclovetofu), Monday, 27 May 2013 00:38 (twelve years ago)

Yeah, it's by far the worst AD yet. But come on: There is a pretty wide area between 'best sitcom ever' and 'wish they hadn't'.

― Frederik B, Monday, 27 May 2013 01:23 (twelve years ago)

There is a pretty wide area between 'best sitcom ever' and 'wish they hadn't'.

there's a whole thread in this principle

― the Quim of Bendigo (Autumn Almanac), Monday, 27 May 2013 01:43 (twelve years ago)

Woof. This was horrible.

― Allen (etaeoe), Monday, 27 May 2013 01:54 (twelve years ago)

The shoddy art direction, cinematography, and sound mixing were really distracting. It reminded me of a public access children’s show.

― Allen (etaeoe), Monday, 27 May 2013 01:57 (twelve years ago)

e.g.

https://www.evernote.com/shard/s3/sh/1ac263a2-e938-44cf-9b3b-d883f754ea9f/eedae9c61cd16be8a45360199e70f8dc/res/cb29dbfe-4ff2-42df-8462-4c4dfda8ee95/skitch.png

― Allen (etaeoe), Monday, 27 May 2013 02:02 (twelve years ago)

http://i.imgur.com/wrewpB1.jpg

― Allen (etaeoe), Monday, 27 May 2013 02:03 (twelve years ago)

it gets better after like ep 5 and you get the rhythm of the setup

― I don't belong in that class (Jimmy The Mod Awaits The Return Of His Beloved), Monday, 27 May 2013 02:26 (twelve years ago)

The Gob episode has been the best so far, which is no surprise really.

Where the hell is Buster in these new episodes?

Also wow at Steve Holt, he's changed quite a bit.

― Kitchen Person, Monday, 27 May 2013 02:30 (twelve years ago)

so do these def have to be watched in order is it that wacky, TMBG Apollo 18, mix-em-up how you like plotting they were promising a while back? cuz judging from the reaction if possible i think i'll start with gob or something and avoid the pacing that's rankling so many

― da croupier, Monday, 27 May 2013 02:39 (twelve years ago)

nah i'd go with suggested order though i'll admit there were jokes i retroactively laughed eg michael's pose in the in-flight magazine not actually that funny until you see george's similar pose in a different in-flight magazine the next episode and you realize that that was what michael was going for. the very very beginning of the first episode really lands poorly but the rest of the first is fine and it gets better from there.

― balls, Monday, 27 May 2013 02:45 (twelve years ago)

yeah i'm actually glad i have to wait another week or so and let the internet diminish my expectations, though they've been intimating it's "different" tonally for a while now

― da croupier, Monday, 27 May 2013 02:54 (twelve years ago)

Is it me or a the sound mix weird? I'm finding a lot of the dialogue really difficult to catch first time - not cause its fast'n'zingy, just a bit inaudible

Yessss.

― pplains, Monday, 27 May 2013 03:02 (twelve years ago)

The mix is atrocious. I assumed it was a gag. It wasn’t.

― Allen (etaeoe), Monday, 27 May 2013 03:09 (twelve years ago)

sounds fine on a computer speaker

― j., Monday, 27 May 2013 03:25 (twelve years ago)

My father compared AD to the 70s show "Soap" http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0075584/

It was created by Susan Harris, who later made "golden girls," and is where Mitch Hurwitz made his name before AD. Anyone remember the show and can comment on that?

― Cunga, Monday, 27 May 2013 03:27 (twelve years ago)

yeah, it was all a bit self-referential and not terrible

― the Quim of Bendigo (Autumn Almanac), Monday, 27 May 2013 03:28 (twelve years ago)

soap was pretty great if not perfect, i can imagine if ilx had been around during the carter administration we would've been all over it. definitely see some roots for arrested development there.

― balls, Monday, 27 May 2013 03:30 (twelve years ago)

agreed

― klaus dingeldore's rhinelander monkey keeper father (forksclovetofu), Monday, 27 May 2013 03:33 (twelve years ago)

Into the third of the episodes and some of them (Maebe's and George Michael's) are hilarious.

― the girl from spirea x (f. hazel), Monday, 27 May 2013 03:50 (twelve years ago)

Clever: just read that Alia/Maeby played the shaman (listed as RICH ALIAÄNDANOST, which is a lazy anagram of ALIA ÄND AN OSTRICH.)

― she started dancing to that (Finefinemusic), Monday, 27 May 2013 03:55 (twelve years ago)

hmm… a lot of timing jokes in gob's episode 11

― j., Monday, 27 May 2013 04:08 (twelve years ago)

Susan Harris, who I just mentioned, her son is Sam Harris from the New Atheism books that sprung up ten years ago

Lol

― Cunga, Monday, 27 May 2013 04:26 (twelve years ago)

I like Buster's gold and jewel-encrusted new hook.

― Emperor Cos Dashit (Adam Bruneau), Monday, 27 May 2013 04:27 (twelve years ago)

uh oh i think episode 11 could be a game-changer

― j., Monday, 27 May 2013 04:32 (twelve years ago)

right on time

― J0rdan S., Monday, 27 May 2013 04:34 (twelve years ago)

well, given the supposed setup i wondered if maybe you would have to literally watch twice all the way through for all of the intended laughs to register. it's reassuring that there would be an episode that brings lots of things together, is actually funny (final line from howard's narration is awesome), and also has lots of references to sorting out the ordering/things not making sense.

― j., Monday, 27 May 2013 04:38 (twelve years ago)

i grew up watching soap, i really liked that show even though i didn't half of the jokes.

i'm not going to watch this new "season" of AD for a while, but i'll go in with diminished expectations... which is a good thing, i think.

― flesh, the devil, and a wolf (wolf) (amateurist), Monday, 27 May 2013 04:41 (twelve years ago)

episodes 11-15 are as good or better than anything from the first three seasons.

― the girl from spirea x (f. hazel), Monday, 27 May 2013 05:07 (twelve years ago)

I finished this, final episodes are good but the format of this whole thing is still messing with my mind. Presumably it all takes place at once, but then some episodes seem to stretch out over days and some of them take place in a single instance and by the time we get to the George Michael stuff at the end, a huge chunk of the episodes are simply recapping stuff that happened in earlier episodes in a way that was far clunkier, far less graceful, than the recaps they used to do.

Over all the whole season feels like it could have been made into 5 or 6 killer 22-min episodes. Some fans should just cut all the best bits together into a 2-hour movie or something.

― Emperor Cos Dashit (Adam Bruneau), Monday, 27 May 2013 06:03 (twelve years ago)

hahaha method-one clinic

― you are not a better writer than f. scott fitzgerald. you are not a b (k3vin k.), Monday, 27 May 2013 15:51 (twelve years ago)

^good bellwether: if you like that joke, you'll like the season

― klaus dingeldore's rhinelander monkey keeper father (forksclovetofu), Monday, 27 May 2013 15:59 (twelve years ago)

ok forks is comedy gatekeeping on ilx now

― you are not a better writer than f. scott fitzgerald. you are not a b (k3vin k.), Monday, 27 May 2013 16:00 (twelve years ago)

keep it in your pants kev, that was offered with no judgment.

― klaus dingeldore's rhinelander monkey keeper father (forksclovetofu), Monday, 27 May 2013 16:01 (twelve years ago)

tobias killed the lindsey episode, esp the part where he thought the chick eating the butter was acting

― you are not a better writer than f. scott fitzgerald. you are not a b (k3vin k.), Monday, 27 May 2013 16:23 (twelve years ago)

I watched an episode and a half of this

it kinda plays like arrested development fanfic

― iatee, Monday, 27 May 2013 20:43 (twelve years ago)

house of cards had the same terribl ersatz feeling to it too

― iatee, Monday, 27 May 2013 20:44 (twelve years ago)

I admit I was kind of hoping the endgame of the season would be them all living in the model home together again to set up season 5. The most obvious difference in the new episodes was that you rarely had more than two or three of them in a scene together, which happened all the time on the original run. This being a consequence of them not all being available at the same time to shoot that maybe could be rectified if this is a success?

― the girl from spirea x (f. hazel), Monday, 27 May 2013 21:24 (twelve years ago)

Still in the midst of watching these. Disappearing down the metatextual rabbit hole in the second Michael episode with Ron Howard was pretty funny. If nothing else, Henry Winkler nails every scene he's in.

― Huston we got chicken lol (Phil D.), Monday, 27 May 2013 22:53 (twelve years ago)

boy this thing really finds its footing by the end, curious to watch it again and see how those first awkward episodes play on second viewing

― balls, Monday, 27 May 2013 23:05 (twelve years ago)

The last five episodes were so good. Can't believe how slowly this started but as many people have said it picks up so much half way through. It seems like they just needed to edited it down, maybe 10 episodes would have been better?

"Great....pain fades slowly"

― Kitchen Person, Monday, 27 May 2013 23:45 (twelve years ago)

I saw the first two episodes last night and was actually quite pleased with the slower pace and breezy editing. The pacing of the show has been ripped off so much now that it's nice to see it slowed down, where lines can sit longer. Neither of them were extremely funny but I'm kinda down for that after the season 3 aesthetic of "let's have 8000 jokes a second and hope some of them work," which was exhausting and doesn't hold up.

― kaleb h. (Everything You Like Sucks), Tuesday, 28 May 2013 01:15 (twelve years ago)

That Asian prison women's gang >_<

― I wish every slot machine had EAT THE RICH printed on it (Crabbits), Tuesday, 28 May 2013 01:18 (twelve years ago)

that is an upset face btw

― I wish every slot machine had EAT THE RICH printed on it (Crabbits), Tuesday, 28 May 2013 01:19 (twelve years ago)

omg

― 0808ɹƃ (silby), Tuesday, 28 May 2013 01:33 (twelve years ago)

;_;

― I wish every slot machine had EAT THE RICH printed on it (Crabbits), Tuesday, 28 May 2013 01:35 (twelve years ago)

haha

― lag∞n, Tuesday, 28 May 2013 01:39 (twelve years ago)

why didnt they just make this season in the style of the other seasons i dont understand

― lag∞n, Tuesday, 28 May 2013 01:39 (twelve years ago)

It certainly makes the case for forcing television to be cut to a specific length.

― Popture, Tuesday, 28 May 2013 01:47 (twelve years ago)

agree abt some of the editing/sound stuff being godawful (but honestly dont really care) - there's a shot of maeby w/ her back to the camera where whoever is standing in for alia is either a dude or like twice her size, v broad shouldered

― johnny crunch, Tuesday, 28 May 2013 02:38 (twelve years ago)

why didnt they just make this season in the style of the other seasons i dont understand - seriously?

― balls, Tuesday, 28 May 2013 03:06 (twelve years ago)

hasn't hurwitz said that because of scheduling conflicts they couldn't have everyone around for every episode

― J0rdan S., Tuesday, 28 May 2013 03:08 (twelve years ago)

yeah that's what i thought too

― you are not a better writer than f. scott fitzgerald. you are not a b (k3vin k.), Tuesday, 28 May 2013 03:10 (twelve years ago)

He also said you could watch these in any order and jump between them and that is a huge crock.

― Emperor Cos Dashit (Adam Bruneau), Tuesday, 28 May 2013 03:12 (twelve years ago)

I think he walked that one back

― 0808ɹƃ (silby), Tuesday, 28 May 2013 03:12 (twelve years ago)

whats the point of getting all the same dudes together and then making a show that just somewhat resembles the original show, im not like some huge arrested development super fan but this new shit is clearly bogus

― lag∞n, Tuesday, 28 May 2013 03:13 (twelve years ago)

yeah there are times when it's apparent they couldn't even get ppl that were in the same scene nevermind episode on the set at the same time. scheduling issue most apparent by relative lack of buster here (i think you might see andy richter and ben stiller and obv isla fisher more than him).

― balls, Tuesday, 28 May 2013 03:15 (twelve years ago)

If you desire to go to an internet message board and point out that you noticed they use the Charlie Brown music in a way similar to the way they used it in the original series then you will love this.

― Emperor Cos Dashit (Adam Bruneau), Tuesday, 28 May 2013 03:15 (twelve years ago)

lagoon have you actually seen the new season? or is it just this is different = this is not what i want? seriously you're acting like buster here

― balls, Tuesday, 28 May 2013 03:16 (twelve years ago)

i watched the first two eps and they were really bad AND different!

― lag∞n, Tuesday, 28 May 2013 03:19 (twelve years ago)

+ur acting like gob, sick burn

― lag∞n, Tuesday, 28 May 2013 03:21 (twelve years ago)

there's definitely the aspect w/ the episodes where you could tell he was trying to be ambitious w/ the possibility of playing in any order and getting some comedy rashomon effect (w/ the result being alot of early episodes play purely as setup) but as far as i can tell he gave up on pulling that off, episode order definitely matters. tbh they'd do subtle setups and background jokes that aren't even funny until you catch it again well after the fact (ie tons of foreshadowing of buster's hand and the seal)(and somehow i didn't even catch until now that buster's greatest fear - loose seal = lucille), here it's more foregrounded and tied to plot.

― balls, Tuesday, 28 May 2013 03:21 (twelve years ago)

lol have fun digging for laffs

― lag∞n, Tuesday, 28 May 2013 03:22 (twelve years ago)

― lag∞n, Monday, May 27, 2013 11:13

well what else are any of these people doing that people are clamoring to see?

― J0rdan S., Tuesday, 28 May 2013 03:24 (twelve years ago)

well then they shouldve just gotten together and made the show that people were clamoring to see

― lag∞n, Tuesday, 28 May 2013 03:26 (twelve years ago)

that's easy for you to say!

― J0rdan S., Tuesday, 28 May 2013 03:28 (twelve years ago)

but they didnt even try!

― lag∞n, Tuesday, 28 May 2013 03:29 (twelve years ago)

wait i misread you, nevermind

― J0rdan S., Tuesday, 28 May 2013 03:30 (twelve years ago)

hah

― lag∞n, Tuesday, 28 May 2013 03:31 (twelve years ago)

there's this conflict between ambitions - comedy mobius strip, reunion show catchup, movie prequel, backlog of topics hurwitz clearly thought 'o man if ad was on the air we could've tackled this this way' to the extent that herman cain is one of the less dated examples - and reality - scheduling conflicts, reduced budget, various directors (russo bros the big ones obv) and other behind the scenes personnel not being available, actors and writers needing time to find that voice again, the visible effects of the aging process - that create tonal issues w/ the new series definitely but but anyone who has any complaints w/ that last stretch of episodes is insane.

― balls, Tuesday, 28 May 2013 03:32 (twelve years ago)

it def seems low bug

― lag∞n, Tuesday, 28 May 2013 03:34 (twelve years ago)

Ok michael confronting ron howard abt rebel on tobias's recc is a classic moment in television

― Treeship, Tuesday, 28 May 2013 03:34 (twelve years ago)

http://paidcontent.org/2013/05/27/binge-viewing-arrested-development-season-4-patience-required/ <-- reeeeally interesting take imo

― the Quim of Bendigo (Autumn Almanac), Tuesday, 28 May 2013 03:40 (twelve years ago)

i wasn't so sure about the last couple after the gob/tony wonder episode and the big maeby episode, though they did seem more solid due to continued buildup etc. - kind of expected to feel as if all the desert/lindsey/tobias storylines would feel more finished off at the end, though. i guess they were technically?

that gag about ann's conversion still impresses me. i mean damn,

― j., Tuesday, 28 May 2013 03:46 (twelve years ago)

Gob/Tony Wonder one of the standout threads here

― 0808ɹƃ (silby), Tuesday, 28 May 2013 03:48 (twelve years ago)

you didn't like overtly sexual george michael?

― balls, Tuesday, 28 May 2013 03:50 (twelve years ago)

You viewers who enjoyed this season, what were your favorite new jokes? Cos i feel like most of the jokes I enjoyed were just lazily rehashed versions of older jokes.

Some of those callbacks were really poorly done as well. There was an episode where they cut to Annyong and make a joke about his name and it has nothing to do with the plot or anything else that happens in any of the other shows. Later on the "Mr. F" theme plays and it really comes out of nowhere. Feels like they are really coasting on fan goodwill. The bit where they all confront Tobias about his language problem was sort of ok but they've done that before and the payoff was way better and funnier (him listening to a cassette, rewinding it to himself saying random entendres, completely oblivious to their double meaning).

I know it's incredibly nit-picky but that one review where they mention Michael burning his hand on the car door in the first episode and how cutting that whole bit by like 1 second would completely elevate the feel of the joke was otm. I think there is some critic-proof stuff in here, with all the meta jokes and callbacks, which are just accepted as the face of clever and sophisticated comedy that doesn't even need to be funny to be successful.

And I stand by my statement saying Seth Rogen and Kristin Wiig are just horrible casting for this.

― Emperor Cos Dashit (Adam Bruneau), Tuesday, 28 May 2013 03:59 (twelve years ago)

OSGM was great, and good for Michael Cera for producing and probably writing a bunch of scenes of him making out with hot actresses. If I was in his position, I'd do the same.

― Emperor Cos Dashit (Adam Bruneau), Tuesday, 28 May 2013 04:00 (twelve years ago)

wait what was tony wonder and gob having sex w/ each other wearing masks of each other in a scheme hatched by tony to prove that gob was gay as well as a scheme hatched by gob to prove that tony was straight a rehash of?

― balls, Tuesday, 28 May 2013 04:13 (twelve years ago)

This is as complex and dense a thing as I’ve ever seen, and really does peel back like an onion — conversations stretch across episodes and many reveals are pushed off until nearly the end of the season.

*introduces the wire to writer, watches as her head explodes*

― klaus dingeldore's rhinelander monkey keeper father (forksclovetofu), Tuesday, 28 May 2013 04:24 (twelve years ago)

remind me when conversations stretched across episodes in the wire again?

― balls, Tuesday, 28 May 2013 04:30 (twelve years ago)

when buster was at the method one clinic and he found out he was the queen then next episode stringer bell and tobias acted in a school play

this is not pinter for crissakes, episodes of seinfeld are more complexly plotted and laid out

― klaus dingeldore's rhinelander monkey keeper father (forksclovetofu), Tuesday, 28 May 2013 04:34 (twelve years ago)

remind me when conversations stretched across episodes in seinfeld again?

― balls, Tuesday, 28 May 2013 04:37 (twelve years ago)

the complexity of AD is cool but its not really a primary differentiator between the show being good and enjoyable or not

― lag∞n, Tuesday, 28 May 2013 04:39 (twelve years ago)

hell for that matter remind me of any multitude of setups seinfeld waited more than five, ten episodes to pay off on?

― balls, Tuesday, 28 May 2013 04:41 (twelve years ago)

the complexity of AD is cool but its not really a primary differentiator between the show being good and enjoyable or not - no shit

― balls, Tuesday, 28 May 2013 04:41 (twelve years ago)

so like whats the big deal

― lag∞n, Tuesday, 28 May 2013 04:42 (twelve years ago)

"conversations stretching across episodes" is like every cliffhanger on every show ever

cf breaking bad's doll eye crossing from episode to episode or i dunno, how about dallas maybe

― klaus dingeldore's rhinelander monkey keeper father (forksclovetofu), Tuesday, 28 May 2013 04:43 (twelve years ago)

sore balls tonight in the arrested development thread

― klaus dingeldore's rhinelander monkey keeper father (forksclovetofu), Tuesday, 28 May 2013 04:44 (twelve years ago)

easter eggs

― lag∞n, Tuesday, 28 May 2013 04:44 (twelve years ago)

also i loathe seinfeld, was just thinking of this for structure sake: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Betrayal

― klaus dingeldore's rhinelander monkey keeper father (forksclovetofu), Tuesday, 28 May 2013 04:45 (twelve years ago)

wait remind me when breaking bad or dallas showed us one half of a conversation and had it pay off in one way and then several episodes later showed us the other half of a conversation and had it pay off in an entirely different way.

― balls, Tuesday, 28 May 2013 04:45 (twelve years ago)

the betryal's one episode iirc

― balls, Tuesday, 28 May 2013 04:45 (twelve years ago)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nCEjeTb1rrs

― klaus dingeldore's rhinelander monkey keeper father (forksclovetofu), Tuesday, 28 May 2013 04:45 (twelve years ago)

lol at comparing a motif to a plot thread btw. maybe read more pinter.

― balls, Tuesday, 28 May 2013 04:46 (twelve years ago)

this rashomon thing is really turning your crank, eh

― klaus dingeldore's rhinelander monkey keeper father (forksclovetofu), Tuesday, 28 May 2013 04:46 (twelve years ago)

forks i want to ask you a question, and i know you've been asked this question before but i want you to think about it this time and i want you to answer honestly: are you fucking retarded?

― balls, Tuesday, 28 May 2013 04:47 (twelve years ago)

that seems like a totally rational and reasonable response for a disagreement about the underlying structure of a half-rate reboot of a never-particularly good sitcom.

congratulations! you are officially an internet stereotype!

― klaus dingeldore's rhinelander monkey keeper father (forksclovetofu), Tuesday, 28 May 2013 04:49 (twelve years ago)

forks trust me that response has nothing to do w/ this thread but more the board in general (and if you need specifics let's just point at yr history as a mod), i'm just wondering cuz i know you've been asked this before and you've always evaded responding (as you did here, again). forks, sincerely: are you fucking retarded?

― balls, Tuesday, 28 May 2013 04:51 (twelve years ago)

thx for letting me know that 'wondering if forks is retarded' is so common it's an internet stereotype though

― balls, Tuesday, 28 May 2013 04:52 (twelve years ago)

i would totally respond to that if i could somehow imagine how you're managing to type so clearly with both thumbs up your ass. dvorak keyboard maybe?

― klaus dingeldore's rhinelander monkey keeper father (forksclovetofu), Tuesday, 28 May 2013 04:53 (twelve years ago)

if only you could somehow imagine

― balls, Tuesday, 28 May 2013 04:54 (twelve years ago)

if only

― klaus dingeldore's rhinelander monkey keeper father (forksclovetofu), Tuesday, 28 May 2013 04:56 (twelve years ago)

seriously though forks are you?

― balls, Tuesday, 28 May 2013 04:56 (twelve years ago)

not that this isn't fun but i think it's past your bedtime, you're getting cranky

― klaus dingeldore's rhinelander monkey keeper father (forksclovetofu), Tuesday, 28 May 2013 04:56 (twelve years ago)

it's a simple question forks

― balls, Tuesday, 28 May 2013 04:57 (twelve years ago)

http://d364y98vz4769w.cloudfront.net/drawings/images/000/036/570/full/405551_10151315741914619_496469770_n.jpg?1344162067

― Mordy , Tuesday, 28 May 2013 05:00 (twelve years ago)

This really is a brilliant way to monetize a relatively small amount of material. It's like the Star Wars prequels in reverse or something. Or that Final Fantasy game that starts to get good after you have played it for 30 hours.

― Emperor Cos Dashit (Adam Bruneau), Tuesday, 28 May 2013 05:02 (twelve years ago)

You are all fun haters, this new season is great.

― O_o-O_O-o_O (jjjusten), Tuesday, 28 May 2013 05:06 (twelve years ago)

be fair, balls likes it. why, there are whole conversations spread across multiple episodes! WHOLE CONVERSATIONS

― klaus dingeldore's rhinelander monkey keeper father (forksclovetofu), Tuesday, 28 May 2013 05:09 (twelve years ago)

yr reading comprehension is just remarkably poor forks. have you been tested?

― balls, Tuesday, 28 May 2013 05:11 (twelve years ago)

The complexity is so important because the humor is gone.

― Emperor Cos Dashit (Adam Bruneau), Tuesday, 28 May 2013 05:11 (twelve years ago)

Balls, you're as complex and dense a thing as I’ve ever seen, and you really do peel back like an onion.

― klaus dingeldore's rhinelander monkey keeper father (forksclovetofu), Tuesday, 28 May 2013 05:12 (twelve years ago)

whole conversations spread across multiple episodes - wait when does this happen?

― balls, Tuesday, 28 May 2013 05:12 (twelve years ago)

lol, this is genuinely important to you

― klaus dingeldore's rhinelander monkey keeper father (forksclovetofu), Tuesday, 28 May 2013 05:13 (twelve years ago)

is it now?

― balls, Tuesday, 28 May 2013 05:14 (twelve years ago)

clearly!

― klaus dingeldore's rhinelander monkey keeper father (forksclovetofu), Tuesday, 28 May 2013 05:14 (twelve years ago)

clearly huh

― balls, Tuesday, 28 May 2013 05:14 (twelve years ago)

so wait forks are you trying to tell us this is genuinely important to you so you're assuming it's genuinely important for everyone else here?

― balls, Tuesday, 28 May 2013 05:15 (twelve years ago)

no, just that your outsized response is funnier than the show was

― klaus dingeldore's rhinelander monkey keeper father (forksclovetofu), Tuesday, 28 May 2013 05:16 (twelve years ago)

forks i don't actually give a fuck if you are in fact retarded, you understand that right?

― balls, Tuesday, 28 May 2013 05:19 (twelve years ago)

oh come on that would be a pretty amazing reveal

― lag∞n, Tuesday, 28 May 2013 05:20 (twelve years ago)

would kinda be jumping the shark wouldn't it?

― klaus dingeldore's rhinelander monkey keeper father (forksclovetofu), Tuesday, 28 May 2013 05:21 (twelve years ago)

i like this new hardballs persona btw, don't let anyone tell you it's not a good look

― klaus dingeldore's rhinelander monkey keeper father (forksclovetofu), Tuesday, 28 May 2013 05:21 (twelve years ago)

idk maybe it would be a good callback, who is the showrunner

― lag∞n, Tuesday, 28 May 2013 05:22 (twelve years ago)

i'm assuming you're gaffing

― klaus dingeldore's rhinelander monkey keeper father (forksclovetofu), Tuesday, 28 May 2013 05:23 (twelve years ago)

forks i believe that you understand the meaning of the individual words you wrote there but what i'm struggling w/ is believing you might possibly understand what they mean when they're grouped together to form a sentence. cuz there is nothing in yr history of posting on ilx (and certainly nothing in yr history of modding ilx) to indicate that level of cognition in play. is there something you would like to tell us forks?

― balls, Tuesday, 28 May 2013 05:24 (twelve years ago)

I give forks a pass because it looks like he never liked the original show, but peeps that are all "oh what have they done to AD" are uh confusing me, this (other than the structure of the narrative) is basically the same tone and humor the show has always had.

― O_o-O_O-o_O (jjjusten), Tuesday, 28 May 2013 05:25 (twelve years ago)

no way bro

― lag∞n, Tuesday, 28 May 2013 05:25 (twelve years ago)

the whole thing is a total gaffe

― lag∞n, Tuesday, 28 May 2013 05:26 (twelve years ago)

I gotta just shrugmoticon that because srsly I don't see any slippage at all.

― O_o-O_O-o_O (jjjusten), Tuesday, 28 May 2013 05:27 (twelve years ago)

Original show was funny, this is Nice Reference!: The Show

― Emperor Cos Dashit (Adam Bruneau), Tuesday, 28 May 2013 05:28 (twelve years ago)

yeah, hardballs is a good look
the full paragraph, stonefaced "no i'm being really serious here, take the zing goddammit" is kinda fucking retarded tho'
also, derivative
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dK8Y2nO_8TM

― klaus dingeldore's rhinelander monkey keeper father (forksclovetofu), Tuesday, 28 May 2013 05:29 (twelve years ago)

To be fair I might be missing the thread of the conversation here because of the prime beef whatever the hell has been going on in this thread over the last however long

― O_o-O_O-o_O (jjjusten), Tuesday, 28 May 2013 05:30 (twelve years ago)

the pace/tone is off, its not jaunty and polished, its sad and raw, its like theyre filming an episode of the office w an arrested development script

― lag∞n, Tuesday, 28 May 2013 05:30 (twelve years ago)

yeah again yr reading comprehension forks, i'm not being serious here, i don't actually give a fuck if you're retarded

― balls, Tuesday, 28 May 2013 05:30 (twelve years ago)

i mean i didn't even give much of a fuck that you were mod and you were a pretty pathetic mod.

― balls, Tuesday, 28 May 2013 05:31 (twelve years ago)

good, better: short, punchy.

― klaus dingeldore's rhinelander monkey keeper father (forksclovetofu), Tuesday, 28 May 2013 05:33 (twelve years ago)

"i didn't even give much of a fuck that you were mod" though; maybe worth proofing the quick zings?

― klaus dingeldore's rhinelander monkey keeper father (forksclovetofu), Tuesday, 28 May 2013 05:34 (twelve years ago)

yeah maybe stick to sentence fragments, work up to forming and expressing thoughts.

― balls, Tuesday, 28 May 2013 05:34 (twelve years ago)

lol do you proof yr zings forks? jesus h christ

― balls, Tuesday, 28 May 2013 05:35 (twelve years ago)

"quick run thru spell check and then bombs away!"

― balls, Tuesday, 28 May 2013 05:35 (twelve years ago)

Idk Adam, I don't get that sense at all - if you are talking abt the references back to the original run, obv the audience for this is people who watched the original, so I don't see that being overdone in this. It def doesn't feel over fan-servicey or anything to me. If anything, I was worried this would degenerate into the save our bluths telethon style episode turned into a season, which would have been awful. (That ep is the fucking worst btw).

― O_o-O_O-o_O (jjjusten), Tuesday, 28 May 2013 05:36 (twelve years ago)

yeah, hardballs, maybe just moonwalk out of this one though? maybe they'll all forget that you seriously just tried the "are you fucking retarded" zing? Like in a non middle school context? maybe time to just... wrap it up.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=47r-0VlvkzM

― klaus dingeldore's rhinelander monkey keeper father (forksclovetofu), Tuesday, 28 May 2013 05:37 (twelve years ago)

"i wish _I_ was a mod"

― klaus dingeldore's rhinelander monkey keeper father (forksclovetofu), Tuesday, 28 May 2013 05:38 (twelve years ago)

The pace seemed off to me for the first 2-3 eps, but I think it resolved itself once the series started to roll out tho. (To lagoon)

― O_o-O_O-o_O (jjjusten), Tuesday, 28 May 2013 05:39 (twelve years ago)

i don't know i'm gonna need a fresher youtube proxy zing than that forks

― balls, Tuesday, 28 May 2013 05:40 (twelve years ago)

maybe i will sample an ep from the middle

― lag∞n, Tuesday, 28 May 2013 05:40 (twelve years ago)

some real season 4 of arrested development level dated pop culture joke there forks

― balls, Tuesday, 28 May 2013 05:41 (twelve years ago)

yeah, that'll work: lower the venom in the rhetoric to pop culture jokes and just skate off. that's probably best.

― klaus dingeldore's rhinelander monkey keeper father (forksclovetofu), Tuesday, 28 May 2013 05:42 (twelve years ago)

well done balls. well done.

― klaus dingeldore's rhinelander monkey keeper father (forksclovetofu), Tuesday, 28 May 2013 05:42 (twelve years ago)

thinking out loud?

― balls, Tuesday, 28 May 2013 05:43 (twelve years ago)

Same w/tone actually, after the first ep I was super not down with the shift in Michael from sane(ish) audience standin who sometimes gloriously fucks up to pathetic baffoon dude fucking up all the time, but it works in the season as a whole I think.

― O_o-O_O-o_O (jjjusten), Tuesday, 28 May 2013 05:43 (twelve years ago)

Also gob/tony wonder ep is a+ and the crazy slapstick buster ep is one of the best ones they've ever done imo.

― O_o-O_O-o_O (jjjusten), Tuesday, 28 May 2013 05:47 (twelve years ago)

lindsay also more clownish now, she was always more sane/human than buster and gob on original show it's why she was able to relate w/ michael, here she somehow ends up more cartoonish than tobias.

― balls, Tuesday, 28 May 2013 05:47 (twelve years ago)

buster ep was a surprise cuz i was telling myself that tony hale's absense wasn't too big a deal anyway cuz could what were the odds buster could carry an episode and then his episode ended up being one of the strongest easily.

― balls, Tuesday, 28 May 2013 05:49 (twelve years ago)

good point. totally strongest episode.

― i didn't even give much of a fuck that you were mod (forksclovetofu), Tuesday, 28 May 2013 05:50 (twelve years ago)

thx!

― balls, Tuesday, 28 May 2013 05:52 (twelve years ago)

i mean, what were the odds?

― i didn't even give much of a fuck that you were mod (forksclovetofu), Tuesday, 28 May 2013 05:53 (twelve years ago)

right?

― balls, Tuesday, 28 May 2013 05:53 (twelve years ago)

totally the strongest episode.

― i didn't even give much of a fuck that you were mod (forksclovetofu), Tuesday, 28 May 2013 05:54 (twelve years ago)

― balls, Tuesday, 28 May 2013 05:54 (twelve years ago)

really a surprise to me.

― i didn't even give much of a fuck that you were mod (forksclovetofu), Tuesday, 28 May 2013 05:54 (twelve years ago)

as a jamie foxx fan you must've loved it

― balls, Tuesday, 28 May 2013 05:55 (twelve years ago)

hahahahaha jamie foxx oh man, you're like an artist or something, like a FARTIST oh hahahaha wow good times

― i didn't even give much of a fuck that you were mod (forksclovetofu), Tuesday, 28 May 2013 05:56 (twelve years ago)

― balls, Tuesday, 28 May 2013 05:57 (twelve years ago)

fp'd all of you for chrissakes

― 0808ɹƃ (silby), Tuesday, 28 May 2013 07:04 (twelve years ago)

Michael as pathetic buffoon seemed worked for me, given that my read on the original series is really that it claims with a somewhat straight face all along that Michael is the good-hearted one, when really from the very first he is as selfish, deceitful, and conniving as any of the rest of them. "That's when Michael finally treated his son like an adult" sort of put a bow on a lot of that.

― 0808ɹƃ (silby), Tuesday, 28 May 2013 07:07 (twelve years ago)

My friend observed that Lindsay/Portia's uncanniness was due to her forehead and hairline looking all wrong with the long-haired blonde wig on. In the shots with her (actual) short haircut she was, as she observed in the voiceover, cuter than ever.

― 0808ɹƃ (silby), Tuesday, 28 May 2013 07:08 (twelve years ago)

ban forks

― max, Tuesday, 28 May 2013 12:34 (twelve years ago)

Original show was funny, this is Nice Reference!: The Show

Man I am shocked beyond all belief that this show that included among its wholly original jokes Henry Winkler literally jumping over a shark then being replaced by Scott Baio, and a restaging of the infamous Lynndie England photo, and narrator Ron Howard getting defensive about Andy Griffith and Opie jokes, and Andy Richter playing quintuplets after starring in a show called "Quintuplets" and . . . wait, what was I saying?

― Huston we got chicken lol (Phil D.), Tuesday, 28 May 2013 13:09 (twelve years ago)

^^^ did not have v high hopes for the revive because of this, which is the kind of thing you figure can only get worse with age and fan-love.

― the white queen and her caustic judgments (difficult listening hour), Tuesday, 28 May 2013 13:15 (twelve years ago)

Yes clearly I said this show never relied on references, thank you Phil, I should watch this show called Arrested Development for the first time ever.

― Emperor Cos Dashit (Adam Bruneau), Tuesday, 28 May 2013 13:20 (twelve years ago)

arrested development is tearing us apart.

― i didn't even give much of a fuck that you were mod (forksclovetofu), Tuesday, 28 May 2013 13:29 (twelve years ago)

The show has always relied on references and metatextual stuff for a lot of its humor. If you think those references are being deployed differently or in a less effective way, feel free to expound on it.

― Huston we got chicken lol (Phil D.), Tuesday, 28 May 2013 13:38 (twelve years ago)

It's alot like explaining a joke, so I won't go into detail. Like telling a joke it is all about timing, context, and a zillion other miniscule factors that I don't have time to get into right now. They are deployed less skillfully here. Often the reference is the entirety of the joke, it doesn't add anything to what is happening at that moment, it doesn't add a new dimension to the reference, it's just there.

For instance when the guy that Lindsay is dating paints himself blue for no reason when he plans the podium bomb. Tobias always had a reason (understudy for the blue man group) and the re-occurrence of that gag wasn't entirely dependent on you knowing that he did that once. He left blue paint on Michael during a hug, he got run over by that car who couldn't see him in the blue light of dusk, he inadvertently said that famous catch phrase. In the new show that guy paints himself blue, Lindsay says "I sure have a type", the joke relies entirely on if you've seen the previous shows and know that she was in a relationship with someone that did the same thing. It's a lazy reference.

Who knows maybe I will rewatch all these in a month or so and fall in love with it. If that happens i will gladly come back here and report as such!

― Emperor Cos Dashit (Adam Bruneau), Tuesday, 28 May 2013 13:57 (twelve years ago)

Is it me or is there a anti-piracy watermark on most of the older clips? Kinda weird since I'm watching it on Netflix and not torrent.

― Emperor Cos Dashit (Adam Bruneau), Sunday, May 26, 2013 4:41 PM (2 days ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

all you need to know, right here folx

― waterface, Tuesday, 28 May 2013 14:17 (twelve years ago)

* walks off-screen to Charlie Brown music, creating brilliant complexity *

― Emperor Cos Dashit (Adam Bruneau), Tuesday, 28 May 2013 14:31 (twelve years ago)

But seriously, didn't you laugh at that 'DA Micheal' thing? That was brilliant! Cute and cruel.

― Frederik B, Tuesday, 28 May 2013 14:52 (twelve years ago)

Yeah that was funny.

― Emperor Cos Dashit (Adam Bruneau), Tuesday, 28 May 2013 15:03 (twelve years ago)

a lot is two words

― conrad, Tuesday, 28 May 2013 15:07 (twelve years ago)

I loved Arrested Development, but three episodes in and I am not enjoying this.

― polyphonic, Tuesday, 28 May 2013 15:08 (twelve years ago)

we are here for you

― waterface, Tuesday, 28 May 2013 15:13 (twelve years ago)

Tell us more, PP

― waterface, Tuesday, 28 May 2013 15:13 (twelve years ago)

same but my expectations are very low and i'll take good moments where i can find them. so far the only joke that's felt like prime era-AD is "method one clinic".

― precious bonsai children of new york (Jordan), Tuesday, 28 May 2013 15:14 (twelve years ago)

http://www.wendyohareskincare.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/02/water-face.jpg

― iatee, Tuesday, 28 May 2013 15:14 (twelve years ago)

The first few episodes of this show were a bit flat but it kept picking up as it went along imo. Certainly a lot funnier than this thread progressed.

― she started dancing to that (Finefinemusic), Tuesday, 28 May 2013 15:23 (twelve years ago)

I'm excited to hear it might get better. It hasn't been bad, but I haven't laughed yet.

― polyphonic, Tuesday, 28 May 2013 15:29 (twelve years ago)

i'm enjoying this a lot, but i'm getting the same feeling i got from the fourth bourne movie, funny enough: perfectly fine, def way above avg for the genre, lots to like, but... doesn't really make a case for itself.

― goole, Tuesday, 28 May 2013 15:31 (twelve years ago)

I think once you start seeing how the pieces fit together it works better.. also I didn't rewatch old AD before this so I'm coming in a bit fresher than some who are comparing it to the old episodes. xp

― she started dancing to that (Finefinemusic), Tuesday, 28 May 2013 15:32 (twelve years ago)

am i missing something or is recycling the rita/"MR F" stuff really cheap. how dumb is michael supposed to be? this already happened!

― goole, Tuesday, 28 May 2013 15:33 (twelve years ago)

Is he the same Mr F? All I remember is Charlize. That is a bit dumb if so.

― she started dancing to that (Finefinemusic), Tuesday, 28 May 2013 15:34 (twelve years ago)

the fantastic four subpoenas crack me up every time

― puff puff post (uh oh I'm having a fantasy), Tuesday, 28 May 2013 15:36 (twelve years ago)

I'm halfway thru but I'm 100% w/ google's last two posts

― puff puff post (uh oh I'm having a fantasy), Tuesday, 28 May 2013 15:40 (twelve years ago)

I think you mean "something's last two posts."

― Huston we got chicken lol (Phil D.), Tuesday, 28 May 2013 15:42 (twelve years ago)

pp and I only watched the first episode. Certainly on the low side of the funny scale, particularly in the beginning. I thought it got a lot better toward the end esp the whole life long dream of being in Arizona, the "Da Michael" vote and the homecoming "Buster. No, GOB" "It was Lindsay."

I think it just felt like they were trying to maneuver the show in a diff direction ("This is Michael's Arrested Development") way too quickly. I'm still holding out hope for improvement.

oh also liking kristen wiig as young Lucille

― educate yourself to this reality (sunny successor), Tuesday, 28 May 2013 15:47 (twelve years ago)

"Buster. No, GOB" "It was Lindsay."

This is a new running gag btw.

― Huston we got chicken lol (Phil D.), Tuesday, 28 May 2013 15:48 (twelve years ago)

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/wonkblog/wp/2013/05/28/arrested-development-was-a-communist-utopia-and-season-four-ruined-it/

have not read this

― you are not a better writer than f. scott fitzgerald. you are not a b (k3vin k.), Tuesday, 28 May 2013 18:26 (twelve years ago)

Ensemble comedy is inherently communist in form. We’d love to troll Wonkblog readers with such a claim, but we’re actually serious

too much time on internet

― lag∞n, Tuesday, 28 May 2013 18:29 (twelve years ago)

i keep waiting for the next paragraph to start with "haha you're still reading this" followed by a rickroll

― da croupier, Tuesday, 28 May 2013 18:29 (twelve years ago)

could still happen

― lag∞n, Tuesday, 28 May 2013 18:30 (twelve years ago)

It was nice to see the great Rizwan Manji and Parvesh Cheena of "Outsourced" in the Linsday episode.

― polyphonic, Tuesday, 28 May 2013 18:36 (twelve years ago)

I don't know if it is just me, I watched about three episodes and found it too depressing to keep watching. Not depressing in the sense that it's unfunny, but everyone's story seemed so pathetic and miserable.

― ...also i'm awesome (Nicole), Tuesday, 28 May 2013 20:02 (twelve years ago)

the show gets to me like that sometimes. i tried rewatching the orig series a few years ago and all the characters seemed so petty and unbearable. i watched a few episodes maybe 6 mos ago and it was hilarious to me all over again so idk \OoO/

― arby's, Tuesday, 28 May 2013 20:50 (twelve years ago)

everyone's story seemed so pathetic and miserable

everyone seems to be literally alone, on their own, if that wasn't true of the old seasons at least they tended to be in groups a lot while they were plotting and scheming

― j., Wednesday, 29 May 2013 00:22 (twelve years ago)

justine bateman looking good!

― goole, Wednesday, 29 May 2013 03:05 (twelve years ago)

after getting a lil more than halfway it seems like they made this series by shooting three big scenes and showing them ep after ep

― puff puff post (uh oh I'm having a fantasy), Wednesday, 29 May 2013 03:22 (twelve years ago)

halfway thru the eps I mean

― puff puff post (uh oh I'm having a fantasy), Wednesday, 29 May 2013 03:23 (twelve years ago)

man a week ago i was thinking about watching them all in one day, 3 episodes in and i'm considering just stopping forever :(

― ty based gay dead computer god (zachlyon), Wednesday, 29 May 2013 03:32 (twelve years ago)

Hmm not quite as down on this on many people here, but there's some things that clearly make it worse than previous seasons. Lack of group scenes hurts. e.g GOB is at his funniest when he's trying to impress the whole family, but that never happens, and the other characters also don't dig into him the same way one-on-one. Biggest letdown though is that the last episode doesn't pay off the weird structure at all. So many threads are left unresolved, I imagine they plan on doing a season 5? Even still, why not include moments like Lindsay taking over Love's campaign for the last episode? Editing was sloppy both from a directing perspective (lots of jokes that hang a second too long) and technical. Music sometimes drowned out dialogue, and there was one episode where someone's lines sound like a cell-phone recording.

But despite that... I liked the stories, the structure was fun, laughed out loud at least once per episode, acting was great. Thought they might rely on callbacks for the humor too much, but they were mostly easter eggs rather than "the jokes". Show was operating at like 80% for me, which is still pretty enjoyable.

― Vinnie, Wednesday, 29 May 2013 03:36 (twelve years ago)

Wait, did michael kill lucille 2? That would seem... out of character.

― Treeship, Wednesday, 29 May 2013 04:07 (twelve years ago)

o man just rewatched first episode in light of entire season and i think michael did kill lucille 2

― balls, Wednesday, 29 May 2013 04:20 (twelve years ago)

if there is another season maybe we will see that she fell down the stairs because of her vertigo, or something, which is plausible. although michael took the forget me now so i guess he, and maybe the viewers too, will never know one way or the other.

― Treeship, Wednesday, 29 May 2013 04:26 (twelve years ago)

also there are alot of jokes (not even necessarily background jokes, maybe hurwitz was genuinely trying to do that 'you can watch them in any order' thing at one point) that only make sense (only even register as jokes at all) in light of entire season but if you're wondering if the early episodes (or first one at least) play dramatically better on rewatch, if it's as good as that last stretch i would say not really. jokes still hang on a second too long, roommate vote thing still goes on way too long.

― balls, Wednesday, 29 May 2013 04:29 (twelve years ago)

the music from vertigo does play when he goes in to kiss her, maybe she fell and he got rid of the body in a panic? still narration says 'later that night after michael had done something unthinkable he was looking for a place to hide' and then you see michael washing his hands and then when he sees gob he says he been out of control and he just did something that he doesn't know why he did it and then when gob asks michael if he needs to tell him something michael says no i've said too much already you cannot help me then gob says if michael were to suddenly discover he was in love w/ a man he might say something like 'homo much?'. also michael is wearing a different shirt than earlier. also gob mentions a woodchipper for no reason.

― balls, Wednesday, 29 May 2013 04:42 (twelve years ago)

yeah i noticed all those things. i think the scenario where she falls and he panics is more likely than him murdering her in cold blood... michael is kind of slimy and opportunistic but he never struck me as a killer. then again, george sr. did poison those teachers in the 80s so the bluths are capable of some pretty horrendous things.

― Treeship, Wednesday, 29 May 2013 04:45 (twelve years ago)

I've seen a lot of people complaining about how long they let jokes linger but I think that for some of the longer jokes, like the roommate voting and the ...same, their humor only really comes from long attention is paid to them.

There are a lot of background gags that do actually make things funnier upon a second viewing, like vans and ice cream trucks in Sudden Valley.

― scarfs, Wednesday, 29 May 2013 04:48 (twelve years ago)

they do seem to be going for more over-repetition jokes, like the scene where lucile and buster shotgun her cigarettes, but… just because they're doing that doesn't mean it works

― j., Wednesday, 29 May 2013 05:00 (twelve years ago)

yeah lucille and buster cigarette scene made me laugh hard and then it went on too long.

― balls, Wednesday, 29 May 2013 05:04 (twelve years ago)

yeah it lasted all the way to Tony Hale breaking which just seemed weird to me that they left it that long

― 0808ɹƃ (silby), Wednesday, 29 May 2013 05:13 (twelve years ago)

#falseflag

there is a 16th episode that has been shot that will be available on the DVDs that wraps things up

#falseflag

― I don't belong in that class (Jimmy The Mod Awaits The Return Of His Beloved), Wednesday, 29 May 2013 05:51 (twelve years ago)

unrelated: i love cheap shit like this:

http://cdn.uproxx.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/05/simon-garfunkel-4.gif

― I don't belong in that class (Jimmy The Mod Awaits The Return Of His Beloved), Wednesday, 29 May 2013 05:52 (twelve years ago)

cheap nothing, that's gotta be the most expensive music buy ever for Arrested Development.

― 0808ɹƃ (silby), Wednesday, 29 May 2013 05:54 (twelve years ago)

ok, the (first) tobias and GOB eps were pretty good. george sr does not make a good anchor tho

― ty based gay dead computer god (zachlyon), Wednesday, 29 May 2013 06:56 (twelve years ago)

Argh why the fuck is Lucille Austero so prominent in this? She wasn't even funny the first time.

― Matt DC, Wednesday, 29 May 2013 09:07 (twelve years ago)

Only two eps in though, and I can't work out if the structure is misconceived or will end up being amazing. It does feel like they're slowly layering some kind of gigantic multi-layered farce but splitting the characters apart isn't doing them favours so far. Having to shift Michael from straight man to comic loser is a big part of that, although the torturous process of evicting him from George Michael's dorm was probably the funniest bit I've seen so far.

Otherwise it's pleasantly enjoyable so far but maybe trying to cover too much ground too quickly.

― Matt DC, Wednesday, 29 May 2013 09:13 (twelve years ago)

http://i1354.photobucket.com/albums/q686/tinyservants/gob_zps44651baa.gif

― slam dunk, Wednesday, 29 May 2013 20:49 (twelve years ago)

As most sane people have said, episodes 4 and 5 (Michael 2, Tobias) were a big improvement over 1-3. I'm happy to have a reason to keep watching.

― polyphonic, Wednesday, 29 May 2013 20:54 (twelve years ago)

michael bluth seems to have acquired a cocaine problem over the last decade

― panettone for the painfully alone (mayor jingleberries), Wednesday, 29 May 2013 21:00 (twelve years ago)

Argh why the fuck is Lucille Austero so prominent in this? She wasn't even funny the first time.

Probably because Minelli had a more open schedule than some of the usually more-prominent co-stars.

― Simon H., Wednesday, 29 May 2013 21:02 (twelve years ago)

http://i1354.photobucket.com/albums/q686/tinyservants/Screenshot2013-05-29at53047PM_zpscefcadc7.png

― slam dunk, Wednesday, 29 May 2013 21:32 (twelve years ago)

i like this a fair bit and i've not even reached the point where it gets good yet apparently

― the bitcoin comic (thomp), Wednesday, 29 May 2013 21:46 (twelve years ago)

Otherwise it's pleasantly enjoyable so far but maybe trying to cover too much ground too quickly.

― Matt DC, Wednesday, May 29, 2013 2:13 AM (12 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

the structure is completely misconceived but the show's not bad all in all

― puff puff post (uh oh I'm having a fantasy), Wednesday, 29 May 2013 21:47 (twelve years ago)

also lol @ the plane on the highway bit

― puff puff post (uh oh I'm having a fantasy), Wednesday, 29 May 2013 21:48 (twelve years ago)

http://blogs.indiewire.com/criticwire/netflix-stock-dip-blamed-on-bad-arrested-development-reviews

― ballin' from Maine to Mexico (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 30 May 2013 02:46 (twelve years ago)

i think it's pretty good. i enjoyed seeing michael's downfall. the convoluted timeline became a joke in itself -- i thought it was funny how the maeby episode was basically all exposition with tons and tons of narration.

― Treeship, Thursday, 30 May 2013 02:49 (twelve years ago)

Rewatching the 1st ep after seeing the whole thing, it was way way more enjoyable. Not sure it was enjoyable enough to devote another 7 1/2 hours to watching the rest though.

― Emperor Cos Dashit (Adam Bruneau), Thursday, 30 May 2013 02:57 (twelve years ago)

ummm i have something really dumb to admit. i haven't seen any of this. i cued up the first 'unwatched' ep. it was season 3. i have been watching season 3. it seemed vaguely familiar but it didn't ring a bell until the iraq bit. i am so dumb.

lol.

― goole, Thursday, 30 May 2013 03:04 (twelve years ago)

your weed sounds amazing btw

― Mordy , Thursday, 30 May 2013 03:06 (twelve years ago)

Found this pretty disappointing, even w/ managed expectations, though it was occasionally inspired. (The "coincidence!" musical stings got to me.) Mostly the bleak tone and lack of cast interaction, as well as the overreliance on Ron Howard in general, were the biggest issues for me.

― Simon H., Thursday, 30 May 2013 03:10 (twelve years ago)

i was wondering when justine bateman showed up in season 4 xp

― Treeship, Thursday, 30 May 2013 03:11 (twelve years ago)

ok goole i just want to confirm then that this post

am i missing something or is recycling the rita/"MR F" stuff really cheap. how dumb is michael supposed to be? this already happened!
― goole, Tuesday, May 28, 2013 8:33 AM (Yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

is as sublime as it now looks

― the white queen and her caustic judgments (difficult listening hour), Thursday, 30 May 2013 03:15 (twelve years ago)

http://aux.iconpedia.net/uploads/2146529134.png

― goole, Thursday, 30 May 2013 03:22 (twelve years ago)

this is a funnier farce than arrested development

― sleepingbag, Thursday, 30 May 2013 03:23 (twelve years ago)

Hahahaha ha oh shit goole that's awesome

― O_o-O_O-o_O (jjjusten), Thursday, 30 May 2013 03:39 (twelve years ago)

Haven't read this thread over the past several days but just finished this and gotta say, even if it doesn't always work, it's ballsy as fucking hell. Probably the best anyone could hope for tbh.

― Gukbe, Thursday, 30 May 2013 07:48 (twelve years ago)

Yeah, the actual scripting is incredibly impressive. It's so nice to watch comedy that's genuinely ambitious - even when it doesn't work all the time.

― Walter Galt, Thursday, 30 May 2013 11:35 (twelve years ago)

I'm sure i heard a "Mr F" reference when Michael meets Lucille 2 an her brother in the restaurant, which fitted with goole's original posts...then saw his update.

― michaellambert, Thursday, 30 May 2013 11:59 (twelve years ago)

Gukbe otm. They fall flat at times, but it's great that they do something new, instead of repeating itself. While it gets bad, it never gets as embarassing as the lowpoints of Community 4, for this reason.

― Frederik B, Thursday, 30 May 2013 12:14 (twelve years ago)

yeah i also noticed the tiny musical call back to "Mr. F" in season 4 and was wondering why goole had such a hair trigger

― O_o-O_O-o_O (jjjusten), Thursday, 30 May 2013 15:16 (twelve years ago)

The more I think about it, the more "I was mistakenly voted out of a four-person housing situation in a 'pack first, no talking' scenario" may be the funniest sentence I've ever heard.

― Huston we got chicken lol (Phil D.), Thursday, 30 May 2013 22:43 (twelve years ago)

For instance when the guy that Lindsay is dating paints himself blue for no reason when he plans the podium bomb. Tobias always had a reason (understudy for the blue man group) and the re-occurrence of that gag wasn't entirely dependent on you knowing that he did that once. He left blue paint on Michael during a hug, he got run over by that car who couldn't see him in the blue light of dusk, he inadvertently said that famous catch phrase. In the new show that guy paints himself blue, Lindsay says "I sure have a type", the joke relies entirely on if you've seen the previous shows and know that she was in a relationship with someone that did the same thing. It's a lazy reference.

OK, I just watched this episode, and you are officially Not Good At Watching TV. Like, even remotely. Because what you describe above is not even close to what happens.

Lindsay's boyfriend gets stuck in the podium WITH the bomb because Gob traps him in there. The bomb goes off and covers him in the blue ink and glitter that was meant for Herbert Love. When the police bring him past on their way out, MAEBY sees him and says, "You sure have a type."

You could almost literally have not possibly gotten it more wrong.

― Huston we got chicken lol (Phil D.), Friday, 31 May 2013 00:37 (twelve years ago)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G5PQAI8nWYQ

― I don't belong in that class (Jimmy The Mod Awaits The Return Of His Beloved), Friday, 31 May 2013 01:50 (twelve years ago)

Hahahaha ha oh shit goole that's awesome

― O_o-O_O-o_O (jjjusten), Wednesday, May 29, 2013 10:39 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

― flesh, the devil, and a wolf (wolf) (amateurist), Friday, 31 May 2013 02:20 (twelve years ago)

The more I think about it, the more "I was mistakenly voted out of a four-person housing situation in a 'pack first, no talking' scenario" may be the funniest sentence I've ever heard.

― Huston we got chicken lol (Phil D.), Thursday, May 30, 2013 6:43 PM (4 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

otm

― johnny crunch, Friday, 31 May 2013 02:57 (twelve years ago)

Four episodes in and this is starting to feel like a series of spinoffs that hasn't decided whether it wants to be Frasier or Joey.

The Lindsey episode was almost unwatchably bad, especially the bits in India, but the second Michael episode was great. Carl Withers and Kitty are still hilarious.

― Matt DC, Friday, 31 May 2013 07:47 (twelve years ago)

i liked the shaman's advice: 'you are full of shit.'

― j., Friday, 31 May 2013 09:18 (twelve years ago)

http://www.salon.com/2013/05/30/netflix_interested_more_arrested_development_episodes/

― conrad, Friday, 31 May 2013 11:01 (twelve years ago)

"don't worry, the only thing im better at than fucking women is pretending im gay"

― johnny crunch, Saturday, 1 June 2013 02:09 (twelve years ago)

i think this was great, all in all. the fantastic 4 musical number, with the mark cherry backing track, has been cracking me up all day. "fantastic one...fantastic two... fantastic three...."

― the strange and important sound of the synthesizer (Treeship), Saturday, 1 June 2013 03:58 (twelve years ago)

Yeah by like the 4th ep I'm back on this like its 2004

― sons of plutarchy (will), Saturday, 1 June 2013 04:14 (twelve years ago)

also i like that song they play at the end of the last episode, boomerang by lucy schwartz.

― the strange and important sound of the synthesizer (Treeship), Saturday, 1 June 2013 04:44 (twelve years ago)

Tobias episode wasn't great either, I didn't quite get the point of shadowing the Lindsey episode for quite as long as they did. Tobias is hilarious in medium-sized doses in the original series but is the character probably the one least able to carry an episode on his own (well except maybe Buster).

Not sure it's entirely a problem with the structure either, the scripts really don't seem to be up to scratch, even on a one-liner basis.

― Matt DC, Saturday, 1 June 2013 14:10 (twelve years ago)

buster is awesome and i would watch a whole show based around him, let alone a full episode based on him

― O_o-O_O-o_O (jjjusten), Saturday, 1 June 2013 17:03 (twelve years ago)

Tony Hale should be in more stuff, he is great.

― ...also i'm awesome (Nicole), Saturday, 1 June 2013 17:10 (twelve years ago)

Just finished; like many I thought it started a bit middling and built up into a magnificent (if shaky) edifice. I look forward to watching it again in about six months when I've forgotten all the jokes.

It almost seems that the main point of the season was to render Michael and George Michael as despicable as the rest of them.

― I wish to incorporate disco into my small business (chap), Saturday, 1 June 2013 17:13 (twelve years ago)

It almost seems that the main point of the season was to render Michael and George Michael as despicable as the rest of them.

Michael was always as despicable as the rest of them though.

― 0808ɹƃ (silby), Saturday, 1 June 2013 17:32 (twelve years ago)

enjoyed the second half of episodes much more than the first.

altho just ruined it for myself by realising no-one did their chicken dance to michael. biggest running gag to not have been called back?

― nashwan, Saturday, 1 June 2013 17:36 (twelve years ago)

aw man I haven't watched more than a couple and that is depressing news

― well if it isn't old 11 cameras simon (gbx), Saturday, 1 June 2013 17:39 (twelve years ago)

or it may have before i took a forget-me-now

― nashwan, Saturday, 1 June 2013 17:44 (twelve years ago)

oh there's a callback to it, but if you blink you will miss it

― 0808ɹƃ (silby), Saturday, 1 June 2013 17:47 (twelve years ago)

george michael comes very very close, he's actually describing it to p-hound when he's wearing his matador pants but they get interrupted right before he's about to show him

― balls, Saturday, 1 June 2013 20:16 (twelve years ago)

there's a restaurant name reference to it as well

― Sadly, 99.99 percent of sheeple will never wake up (I DIED), Saturday, 1 June 2013 23:30 (twelve years ago)

This is definitely getting better and better. I think I'm 10 episodes in.

― polyphonic, Saturday, 1 June 2013 23:30 (twelve years ago)

Michael was always as despicable as the rest of them though.

Nah. Not visibly anyway. He was totally the audience indentification character before, even if they fucked with that a bit from time to time. But by the of this season I HATED him. Thought he was actually pretty much the worst of em, just by dint of being the smartest.

― I wish to incorporate disco into my small business (chap), Sunday, 2 June 2013 02:36 (twelve years ago)

Holy shit! So it turns out there was an actor named George Maharis who was arrested for having gay sex in a bathroom with a man named Perfecto Telles. Found here.Stuff like this is why I love this show.

"George Maharis Arrested in Men's Room", Gay Scene, December 1974: "Famous Hollywood actor George Maharis was arrested November 21 and charged with committing a sex act with a hairdresser in the men's room of a gas station in Los Angeles... He was booked on a sex perversion charge along with Perfecto Telles, 33, the hairdresser, and released on $500 bail, according to police." An earlier guilty plea for a Hollywood lewd conduct arrest on 15 December 1967 with a male is also documented.

― woman in the dunes, Sunday, 2 June 2013 13:53 (twelve years ago)

omg

― 0808ɹƃ (silby), Sunday, 2 June 2013 17:30 (twelve years ago)

wow

― balls, Sunday, 2 June 2013 17:52 (twelve years ago)

Seen it all. On some awesome Noises Off steez.

― the profane theology of (imago), Monday, 3 June 2013 00:14 (twelve years ago)

And why were all the hispanic people named "Ermano"? Is that like "Jose" or something?

― Not Aja (Pleasant Plains), Tuesday, August 24, 2004 7:04 PM (8 years ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

― mimicking regular benevloent (sic) users' names (President Keyes), Monday, 3 June 2013 13:18 (twelve years ago)

The mouse-behind the ear gag was awesome. Definitely improving in the second half.

― Matt DC, Monday, 3 June 2013 13:29 (twelve years ago)

"And you . . . have a lot of mice to scoop out of the ocean."

― Huston we got chicken lol (Phil D.), Monday, 3 June 2013 13:40 (twelve years ago)

I'm four episodes in, I believe? I just watched Tobias's first ep. I actually like the way they're looking at similar events from different perspectives and the way that jokes reveal themselves. The sound mix is very frustrating though! Doesn't seem quite as funny as the original series although it has been a long time since I saw it. Things like Tobias mistaking a methadone clinic for a method acting class: I don't exactly think that's horrible but did any joke strain credulity to such a degree on the original series? Seems a bit forced.

― EveningStar (Sund4r), Monday, 3 June 2013 16:09 (twelve years ago)

He went to the Blue Man Group therapy session for depressed men thinking it was an audition for the Blue Man Group. Seems par for the course.

― American Fear of Pranksterism (Ed), Monday, 3 June 2013 16:12 (twelve years ago)

Tobias pretended to be a female British housekeeper for most of a season under the impression that his wife and daughter didn't know who he was. He's pretty stupid. I don't really like his storyline this time round though.

― Matt DC, Monday, 3 June 2013 16:13 (twelve years ago)

The storyline is fine it just would have fit the original format better than the new cyclical one; I don't think there is quite enough meat to sustain it.

― American Fear of Pranksterism (Ed), Monday, 3 June 2013 16:16 (twelve years ago)

It's getting better as the character strands tighten closer and closer around each other while still having no real idea what any of the others is doing. Not seen much involving George Michael or Maeby yet, though.

Getting an obviously mid-20s Michael Cera to play a 15 or 16 yr old George Michael in a flashback was a bad call though, he looked ridiculous.

― Matt DC, Monday, 3 June 2013 16:21 (twelve years ago)

Seems a bit forced.

On ARRESTED DEVELOPMENT? REALLY???

― TracerHandVEVO (Tracer Hand), Monday, 3 June 2013 16:22 (twelve years ago)

Someone seeing "Blue Man Group" and thinking that it refers to the famous Blue Man Group as opposed to a therapy session seems more believable to me than an MD thinking that "methadone clinic" means "Method One Acting Class". I forgot about the housekeeper thing though, ha.

― EveningStar (Sund4r), Monday, 3 June 2013 16:24 (twelve years ago)

C'mon, Tobias on methadone was hilarious

― I wish to incorporate disco into my small business (chap), Monday, 3 June 2013 17:09 (twelve years ago)

I think I'm 7(?) episodes in. Maeby has been pretty absent so far but in the few scenes she's shown up I get a feeling that she doesn't want to be there... I don't mean just the character.

The "To Catch a Predator" thing was so great.

― Evan, Monday, 3 June 2013 17:12 (twelve years ago)

"You're forgetting, Lindsay, that as a psychiatrist, I was a professional twice over - an analyst and a therapist. The world's first "analrapist"."

Referring to Tobias as an MD strains more credulity tbh, the methadone thing seems pretty par for the course for his character and his word/meaning blindness

― not lazy but clowning (Suedey 2), Monday, 3 June 2013 17:13 (twelve years ago)

Maeby and George Michael have been great in the later eps

― not lazy but clowning (Suedey 2), Monday, 3 June 2013 17:13 (twelve years ago)

Tobias falling off the staircase in his Mrs Doubtfire get up = best slapstick ever

― the Shearer of simulated snowsex etc. (Dwight Yorke), Monday, 3 June 2013 17:14 (twelve years ago)

Only episode I really loved was the Tony Wonder/Gob one. The ending of the whole thing was a bit crap wannit.

― the Shearer of simulated snowsex etc. (Dwight Yorke), Monday, 3 June 2013 17:15 (twelve years ago)

A NU START

― Evan, Monday, 3 June 2013 17:15 (twelve years ago)

watched the first two new ones over the weekend. it was pretty crappy I thought. probably gonna go watch House of Cards and then pick back up with Arrested D if we feel like it.

― dmr, Monday, 3 June 2013 17:31 (twelve years ago)

Ha, OK, tbh, I guess I didn't remember a lot of things from the original series. Good points.

― EveningStar (Sund4r), Monday, 3 June 2013 18:07 (twelve years ago)

So has anyone seen any of the fan edits?

― Emperor Cos Dashit (Adam Bruneau), Monday, 3 June 2013 19:36 (twelve years ago)

dmr -- it gets much better after the first two eps. i don't love it to death but it does get better.

― i guess i'd just rather listen to canned heat? (ian), Monday, 3 June 2013 19:43 (twelve years ago)

just finished the second half which was much much better than the first, maybe the last 5-6 episodes were all gold. well not the last one which didn't have many jokes but it was mostly payoff so w/e.

the longer it went on the more i started to think it was actually brilliant, the way the whole thing was set up and the continual never-ending payoff. i'm usually morbs-like in my ideological distaste for intricate/makes-the-audience-feel-smart comedy but i'm still a sucker for the cleverness. and given the limits they had to work with it was about as successful as it could've been, barring the occasional COMPLETE ABSENCE OF JOKES and certain characters just not belonging in the spotlight for an entire episode

― ty based gay dead computer god (zachlyon), Wednesday, 5 June 2013 08:44 (twelve years ago)

The Buster heavy episodes = awful

― the Shearer of simulated snowsex etc. (Dwight Yorke), Wednesday, 5 June 2013 08:45 (twelve years ago)

there was only one buster episode and it was p great

xp to myself well it's not that george/lucille/lindsey don't belong, maybe it's just that the writers never really figured out a way to find the humor in them in a vacuum

― ty based gay dead computer god (zachlyon), Wednesday, 5 June 2013 08:50 (twelve years ago)

I'm maybe 3/4 of the way through now and there's been less Buster in it than anyone else.

― Matt DC, Wednesday, 5 June 2013 08:50 (twelve years ago)

Having finished watching the episodes a couple of nights ago I think my enjoyment picked up once I got used to the structure and a few layers had been built up. Overall I enjoyed it, found quite a few laughs in it, but not a much as in most of the original episodes. Felt they still left quite a few loose threads.

― michaellambert, Wednesday, 5 June 2013 08:56 (twelve years ago)

did they ever explain how GOB ended up with ANUSTART

― ty based gay dead computer god (zachlyon), Wednesday, 5 June 2013 08:57 (twelve years ago)

By the third go round of the India scenes I was starting to despair.

― Matt DC, Wednesday, 5 June 2013 09:19 (twelve years ago)

I really didn't find Debrie funny past the first minute or two the first time she shows up, if that. They should have just cut her out and used all that time to write more jokes for the characters I do like.

― Emperor Cos Dashit (Adam Bruneau), Wednesday, 5 June 2013 14:59 (twelve years ago)

Yeah Debrie is a terrible character. Also the comic potential of never-nude Tobias unwittingly joining the porn industry would be massive and I was really disappointed they didn't go down that route.

― Matt DC, Wednesday, 5 June 2013 15:02 (twelve years ago)

yeah, seems like a waste of maria bamford who is amazing

― goole, Wednesday, 5 June 2013 15:09 (twelve years ago)

this definitely heats up as it goes along but it still never quite takes off imo. i'm at ep 12 i think? need to rewatch the last couple cos the overlapping nature of it started to make my eyes glaze over

― goole, Wednesday, 5 June 2013 15:10 (twelve years ago)

Debris was the major weak point of this series. I don't think people who have spent time around addicts will find her funny at all. I think she was worse than Charlize Theron's character, Rita.

― the strange and important sound of the synthesizer (Treeship), Wednesday, 5 June 2013 15:11 (twelve years ago)

The two Gob episodes are predictably the best so far.

― Matt DC, Wednesday, 5 June 2013 15:12 (twelve years ago)

gob trying the bs his way through the proposal to ann and being unable to breathe is maybe the funniest thing in the entire show, though

― goole, Wednesday, 5 June 2013 15:12 (twelve years ago)

DeBrie seemed like a really tragic character, she seemed out of place on this show.

― ...also i'm awesome (Nicole), Wednesday, 5 June 2013 15:14 (twelve years ago)

I don't think people who have spent time around addicts will find her funny at all.

Yeah it was entirely mean-spirited.

― Emperor Cos Dashit (Adam Bruneau), Wednesday, 5 June 2013 15:19 (twelve years ago)

Just finished the 4th season last night. It was really fun, despite my minor disappointment with the first few episodes. Few scattered thoughts

-- Tobias is the closest I've ever seen to an IRL Simpsons' character, with Cross's cartoon but perfect facial expressions and delivery. (The goofy way he said "Her...her Lov-err??" being my favorite.

-- Didn't notice how annexed the cast from each other was until it was pointed out here. There were so many clever moments in the season, and I'm curious how many of the call-backs and clever twists where added on later in re-shoots (which they did a lot of) and revisions that were made much later. There were originally 12 episodes of content, they thought, but they filmed enough for 14 -- which makes me think they had a basic structure for the season and everyone's story and then they get kept padding it with more content through re-shoots and re-writes.

-- Allison Jones did a great job with the casting again. With the exception of some of the UC Irvine students who were giggling through their lines and looked visibly excited to be on AD, about every casting choice was on the money. Jones did casting for "Fresh Prince of Bel Air" (which was loaded with future stars in guest roles) as well as Judd Apatow's movies and TV shows, the Office, etc. Easily the most influential casting director for comedies in Hollywood. A lot of the actors you saw in the 4th season will be given their own TV show or a breakout movie role in the next two years -- likely candidates: the boys in Marc Cherry's entourage.

-- So much of the show is a traditional three-camera sitcom that's just filmed like a mockumentary. It's not as dry as "The Office" (well, the early seasons of the Office) and it's part of the fun of the show that an actor can be really subtle for a throw-away joke in one scene -- mockumentary jokes and moments -- and then come into the next scene and play it big, like he's on a three-camera sitcom with a studio audience.

-- Negative side: The ending of the show felt arbitrary. The joke (I'm assuming it's a joke) upthread that the real final episode of the season will be on the DVD sounds true because episode 14 felt like they just ran out of money, or script pages, or the actors were about to start another project and they only had them for another two days (shades of the "Fantastic Four" movie joke -- see, we can do callbacks here, too, guys)

-- There's something unsatisfying about so much of the show's plot being based on misunderstandings. That's another trad-sitcom trait the show has, and that one's a bit grating. The show is supposed to be whimsical but it needs to let up on Three's Company-style "Jack, when you overheard through the ventilation system that Chrissy had a 'bun in the oven' she wasn't speaking metaphorically, she literally had--" misunderstandings.

― Cunga, Friday, 7 June 2013 18:46 (twelve years ago)

yeah the kind of plots where major conflicts could be resolved in a snap if any of the characters bothered to just talk to each other is one of my least favorite tropes

― frogbs, Friday, 7 June 2013 19:50 (twelve years ago)

AD gets away with it because all the characters would do almost anything to avoid honestly communicating with each other.

― I wish to incorporate disco into my small business (chap), Saturday, 8 June 2013 04:29 (twelve years ago)

Finished this last night. The ending made me so angry, the whole thing was so sloppy and didn't pay off at all.

― Matt DC, Sunday, 9 June 2013 12:45 (twelve years ago)

the whole ANUSTART thing was worth it just for "And Lucille hadn't even seen the car..."

― nashwan, Sunday, 9 June 2013 13:16 (twelve years ago)

Yeah the ending was weird. It was like an intricately wrapped box that someone had forgotten to put a present inside of.

― Emperor Cos Dashit (Adam Bruneau), Sunday, 9 June 2013 15:04 (twelve years ago)

I dunno, I found GM punching Michael in the face to be a fairly apt ending. Also kind of heart-wrenching in a weird way.

― I wish to incorporate disco into my small business (chap), Sunday, 9 June 2013 15:08 (twelve years ago)

Yeah that was the best part of the whole season!

― Emperor Cos Dashit (Adam Bruneau), Sunday, 9 June 2013 15:21 (twelve years ago)

OK, Maeby's first episode (ep 12) is hilarious.

― EveningStar (Sund4r), Thursday, 13 June 2013 04:40 (twelve years ago)

ok so i was pretty brutally disappointed in the first 4 episodes or so (also older george michael and weird plastic surgery face portia de rossi kind of freaked me out) but this thread is convincing me ot continue

― we're up all night to get (s1ocki), Saturday, 15 June 2013 04:07 (twelve years ago)

Poor portia.

But yeah, keep watching.

― Treeship, Saturday, 15 June 2013 04:09 (twelve years ago)

i'm getting a lot of the same feelings lagoon was describing upthread, this general kind of wrongness that distresses me

― we're up all night to get (s1ocki), Saturday, 15 June 2013 04:09 (twelve years ago)

also can't really figure out why, even if everyone had crazy different schedules, they couldn't just film all their stuff and cut them into episodes together? i mean, it's not like they were airing them as they were shooting them.

― we're up all night to get (s1ocki), Saturday, 15 June 2013 04:10 (twelve years ago)

i think there were alot of different things in play - working around schedules, this being a movie prequel (for the longest time the idea was solely a movie and then either as a way to show interest in a movie or just netflix recognizing an opportunity the addition of a few and later not so few episodes catching up on where the characters are now, etc came into play), and then some opportunity to rewrite the rules of comedy or some shit and supposedly make these so they could be viewed in any order (followed by hurwitz scrapping that plan just a week or two before the episodes were actually released iirc). combine that w/ usual tv reunion pitfalls. some of the workarounds w/ cast availability issues also lead to the weird tone issues. it gets better and i enjoyed it and don't think it tarnished the 'legacy' or whatever but at this point i think i'd be more interested in seeing someone who looked at what is attempted here, what works (alot), what doesn't work (alot), and found a way to make it work better w/o the baggage of trying to also right some television injustice or live up to whatever etc. also for whatever formal daring blah blah blah happens here all that's just a vehicle for delivering gags, the reason the later episodes work so much better isn't just the delayed payoffs coming thru, they also just have more, better jokes.

― balls, Saturday, 15 June 2013 04:57 (twelve years ago)

The last four episodes are amazing!

― EveningStar (Sund4r), Saturday, 15 June 2013 05:06 (twelve years ago)

Yep

― Hi i am your great fan suces (jjjusten), Saturday, 15 June 2013 05:12 (twelve years ago)

ya it seems like they were trying to do a bunch of stuff and backtracked on it or it didnt quite work? which may account for the general weirdness of it all

― we're up all night to get (s1ocki), Saturday, 15 June 2013 20:26 (twelve years ago)

has anyone listed all the loose ends from the season? seems like there were a bunch

― Mordy , Saturday, 15 June 2013 22:22 (twelve years ago)

Did we know why Buster was missing one hand in the first place (and why he had a hook)? Did that happen in the original series or was it explained at the beginning of this?

― EveningStar (Sund4r), Saturday, 15 June 2013 22:38 (twelve years ago)

it happened in the original series. a loose seal bit it off.

― Mordy , Saturday, 15 June 2013 22:38 (twelve years ago)

Ah.

― EveningStar (Sund4r), Saturday, 15 June 2013 22:39 (twelve years ago)

COME ON

― Number None, Sunday, 16 June 2013 00:17 (twelve years ago)

Did we know why Buster was missing one hand in the first place (and why he had a hook)? Did that happen in the original series or was it explained at the beginning of this?

Vargo Hoat suspects that his superior, Lord Roose Bolton, is thinking about going over to the Bluths after their victory over Stannis Baratheon in the Battle of the Blackwater, and their alliance to House Tyrell. To prevent this he orders one of his men to chop Buster's sword hand off, thinking that the blame will fall on Bolton.

― mimicking regular benevloent (sic) users' names (President Keyes), Sunday, 16 June 2013 01:27 (twelve years ago)

Last few eps are amazing but GOB's first ep is the best, I think this now the consensus btw.

― Yeezus Built My Hot Rod (King Boy Pato), Sunday, 16 June 2013 08:01 (twelve years ago)

♫ GETAWAY, STAYAWAY ♫

― Yeezus Built My Hot Rod (King Boy Pato), Sunday, 16 June 2013 08:03 (twelve years ago)

The and Jeremy Piven joke is pretty great

First 1/2 of first GOB ep is great but it sorta tapered off

― we're up all night to get (s1ocki), Sunday, 16 June 2013 08:26 (twelve years ago)

Gob eps > Maebe ep > Buster ep > George Michael eps > the rest

― Simon H., Sunday, 16 June 2013 08:52 (twelve years ago)

actually switch Maebe and Buster around

― Simon H., Sunday, 16 June 2013 08:52 (twelve years ago)

also it sort of perplexes me how the callbacks to the other episodes in the season are frequently not actually jokes (like GOB almost running over michael after michael meets isla fisher). some of them are funny (tobias spilling his coffee on the plane) but most are just... there.

― we're up all night to get (s1ocki), Sunday, 16 June 2013 16:11 (twelve years ago)

Each time it happens your brain gets a little smart cookie because you were clever enough to recognize something that you have seen before, from a different camera angle.

― Emperor Cos Dashit (Adam Bruneau), Sunday, 16 June 2013 16:16 (twelve years ago)

ya thats basically it

― we're up all night to get (s1ocki), Sunday, 16 June 2013 16:18 (twelve years ago)

I really, really liked this. I was semi-perplexed to see so much hate across the Internet for the first few episodes, which I pretty much loved, and then the show ramped up in quality from there.

The unraveling of George-Michael and Fakeblock was amazing. This is really the only part Michael Cera should ever play.

― they are either militarists (ugh) or kangaroos (?) (DJP), Monday, 17 June 2013 13:19 (twelve years ago)

It kind of is.

― I wish to incorporate disco into my small business (chap), Monday, 17 June 2013 13:53 (twelve years ago)

haha fair point

― they are either militarists (ugh) or kangaroos (?) (DJP), Monday, 17 June 2013 14:12 (twelve years ago)

Forgot about the 'and Jeremy piven' visual gag, that was the best. also the bit about George Michael not knowing who Lucille 2 was kinda slayed me. Has he really not had a scene with her?

― kinder, Monday, 17 June 2013 15:40 (twelve years ago)

I'm still working my way through them (I'm slow, but I like them more than most), and I just noticed that sometimes the intro-song is slightly changed. Maeby sings along in her, and in George-Michaels first episode, he plays woodblock. I'll have to go back and check all the others now.

― Frederik B, Saturday, 22 June 2013 15:51 (twelve years ago)

The and Jeremy Piven joke is pretty great

i think this was my favourite joke of the series. i think i want to watch it all again, soon - found the first few heavy going and unfunny, but, hey, it gets better, much better. also, this thread is p. much balls otm, which i'm not surprised about because I generally find him otm when discussing comedy.

― my eventual wife (stevie), Tuesday, 2 July 2013 16:23 (twelve years ago)

this thread was so unreasonably combative in the days after the s4 release, <3 u ilx. having watched it i have very little sense of why it was so divisive, the overarching stuff is cumbersome and maybe doesn't quite work, but ey it's still the same show. i'll have to rewatch to see how it holds together / pulls itself together now that i know how the structure works. fave joke in memory is the funke's thanksgiving miracle.

― Fanois och Alexander (Merdeyeux), Tuesday, 2 July 2013 16:37 (twelve years ago)

Steve Holt was so full of pathos in this.

― Matt DC, Tuesday, 2 July 2013 16:58 (twelve years ago)

jesus, steve holt got swole

― my eventual wife (stevie), Tuesday, 2 July 2013 17:45 (twelve years ago)

iirc i loved the first season or two seasons the first time i watched them (i think on DVD, and possibly all in the same weekend while I was sick w/flu) and loved them only more every subsequent time i watched them, which is a lot. looking forward to developing a similar relationship with season 4.

― my eventual wife (stevie), Tuesday, 2 July 2013 17:46 (twelve years ago)

the steve holt joke with the kind-of real-time shared recognition (you AND the characters have a delayed reaction) is also A+++

― kinder, Tuesday, 2 July 2013 18:00 (twelve years ago)

holy cow i cant believe that i didnt realize until today that the shot of gob shaving in the last episode (which i love and made a gif of earlier) is an explicit reference to the last scene of cruising, one of my favorite final shots ever. its like having a crush on a girl and realizing that maybe its because she reminds you of your mom.
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― slam dunk, Sunday, 7 July 2013 08:08 (twelve years ago)

finally got to watch s4 over three or four nights this week and I really liked it. Intentionally didn't re-watch the first 3 beforehand so I wouldn't be driven to overly contrast and compare. Weak bits here and there and I hope there's an s5 with more ensemble work but it was consistently hilarious and formally stunning.

― da croupier, Thursday, 18 July 2013 16:59 (twelve years ago)

while i'd assume it works best watched over a short period of time (piecing it all together in small doses over several months would be a bit much), i'm glad I didn't try to burn through it asap over a day and a half. Pour one out for recappers but the freedom to stop or go forward whenever you want is terrific.

― da croupier, Thursday, 18 July 2013 17:09 (twelve years ago)

two months pass...

http://i1354.photobucket.com/albums/q686/tinyservants/crusing_zpsab13396c.gif
http://i1354.photobucket.com/albums/q686/tinyservants/ad_zps2f5340b9.gif

I just finished watching season 4, and this got me thinking, what if the Cruising reference is (besided an obious allusion to the gay romance between Gob) a hint that Gob was behinds Lucille 2's disappearance/murder? (I have never actually seen Cruising, but reading the plot synopsis on Wikipedia made me think of this.) I can't remember whether Gob is given any reason to hate Lucille 2, but he is known to do some shady things on behalf of his mother... Obviously Lucille 1 feels like the most likely suspect for whatever happened Lucille 2 (especially if she somehow found out how Lucille 2 kept Buster from testifying in her trial), but the way Lucille 2's body suddenly disappears in the Buster episode made me think Gob was involved too. Lucille 2 disappearing while lying on the stairs of the stair car feels reminiscent of Gob's Jesus magic trick, where he disappears inside the prop "stairs".

Of course it's not unlikely that AD will throw curveball and reveal that none of the Bluths were behind the disappearance/murder, or that all of them were, a la Murder on the Orient Express. Or maybe the actual culprit was George Michael? The bit where he mentions to Maeby that he doesn't know who Lucille 2 is felt oddly extraneous, as if the writers were trying to make him the least likely person to do anything to to her.

― Tuomas, Monday, 14 October 2013 10:57 (twelve years ago)

"besides an obvious allusion to the gay romance between Gob and Tony Wonder"

― Tuomas, Monday, 14 October 2013 11:01 (twelve years ago)

three years pass...

Been watching this fourth season again recently - it does repay a second viewing. But also, the first couple of episodes are hard work (and the later episodes much sharper and funnier). Any news on any more?

― Is that my hand, manatee? (stevie), Monday, 7 November 2016 15:26 (eight years ago)

You couldn't pay me to rewatch S04. Apparently season 5 is going to happen http://variety.com/2016/tv/news/arrested-development-season-5-2017-1201824604/

― harold melvin and the bluetones (jim in vancouver), Monday, 7 November 2016 18:39 (eight years ago)

S4 holds up much better than expected

― imago, Monday, 7 November 2016 20:25 (eight years ago)

The show in general does, really

― imago, Monday, 7 November 2016 20:25 (eight years ago)

I think even S3 is not quite at the level of the first 2, but 4 i just plain hated.

― harold melvin and the bluetones (jim in vancouver), Monday, 7 November 2016 20:29 (eight years ago)

S3 is amazing, the William Hung and Franklin episodes killed me

The episodes are borderline incoherent but they're so packed with great jokes, even more so than the first two seasons IMO

― frogbs, Monday, 7 November 2016 20:32 (eight years ago)

Kind of wish they could go back and re-edit/finesse s04 as parts of it feel rushed or kind of knocked together. But its best moments are so so great. The scene with ann organising GOB and Tony Wonder's tryst...

― Is that my hand, manatee? (stevie), Tuesday, 8 November 2016 09:12 (eight years ago)

Sorry, who?

― MatthewK, Tuesday, 8 November 2016 09:18 (eight years ago)

Lol

xp iirc they were doing just that- Ron Howard was recording new narration etc and they'd re-edited into a linear story. I think I read they're holding onto it until s5 gets the go ahead.

― sktsh, Tuesday, 8 November 2016 12:11 (eight years ago)

the extra length of the episodes in S4 hurt them. the extra running time was just flab.

― great Canadian prog-psych debut from 1969 (Sparkle Motion), Tuesday, 8 November 2016 14:42 (eight years ago)

one year passes...

re-watching the first three seasons and I'm pretty sure I never noticed the Fonz jumping the shark reference last time.

This show is so great. I've still not gotten around to watching S4, I'm terrified I'll be let down.

― Ste, Monday, 11 December 2017 13:41 (seven years ago)

S4 is better the second time around. There's too much to catch on first viewing, and the pacing is way off.

― "Taste's very strange!" (stevie), Monday, 11 December 2017 14:08 (seven years ago)

Yep.

― albvivertine, Monday, 11 December 2017 14:26 (seven years ago)

I honestly thought the first 2 episodes of S4 were awful and stopped watching it. Picked it back up a month or two later and it was worth it. Better than S3 imo.

― cwkiii, Monday, 11 December 2017 15:10 (seven years ago)

I honestly thought this thread bump was going to be someone saying they can't watch this show anymore because of Tambour

― President Keyes, Monday, 11 December 2017 15:11 (seven years ago)

Just finished S4 at last, quickly want to agree with cwkii up there Better than S3 imo.

First episode I thought was great. Second, meh slightly tedious. The next few were a mix of me getting used to the new format and worrying that we'd still not seen anything much of Buster, George Michael, or Gob.

When the first Gob episode came in though everything started to make a lot of sense. Episodes after and connections were happening fast, it was great and I felt relieved and satisfied.

Goddam pissed my pants laughing at the Curb music over the scene with Jeff Garlin stuck in the window.

― In space, pizza sends out for YOU (Ste), Tuesday, 19 December 2017 14:49 (seven years ago)

i really disliked season 4, and found it wore than season 3 which was already a big drop-off from season 2 for me. i am sure i have articulated this exact same thing on this thread.

― khat person (jim in vancouver), Tuesday, 19 December 2017 17:45 (seven years ago)

S4 episodes did not benefit from a longer runtime

― Scam jam, thank you ma’am (Sparkle Motion), Tuesday, 19 December 2017 18:14 (seven years ago)

four months pass...

i rewatched season 4 recently. it really doesn't hold up. Maybe randomly going brownface for a few weak jokes was a baffling decision. also maybe it was a bad idea for them to make the family be the people behind building a US-Mexico wall and base the entire season around that. i guess they've always been villains but people these days are less receptive to that sort of thing.

― Hazy Maze Cave (Adam Bruneau), Tuesday, 1 May 2018 19:52 (seven years ago)

You get to rewatch it again in a slightly different format soon!

https://www.theverge.com/2018/5/1/17307974/arrested-development-fourth-season-remix-release-date-netflix

― Simon H., Tuesday, 1 May 2018 19:55 (seven years ago)

22 episodes. Some of the original episodes were long, but that still seems like a lot more material. Unless there's a whole bunch of repeated scenes, sigh.

― Frederik B, Tuesday, 1 May 2018 19:59 (seven years ago)

Yeah I would have thought a recut version would be like 10 eps max

― Simon H., Tuesday, 1 May 2018 20:02 (seven years ago)

more eps = more streams

― Hazy Maze Cave (Adam Bruneau), Tuesday, 1 May 2018 20:31 (seven years ago)

Agreed. Making each episode network length would have been a good idea too. 10 extra minutes is a long time in a sitcom.

― Scam jam, thank you ma’am (Sparkle Motion), Tuesday, 1 May 2018 20:36 (seven years ago)

But Netflix doesn't get money per stream?

― Frederik B, Tuesday, 1 May 2018 20:36 (seven years ago)

22 extra episodes x 5 million viewers (just a random number based on og series ratings) = at least 110 million additional streams very conservative estimate

yeah im pretty sure that will factor at some point

― Hazy Maze Cave (Adam Bruneau), Tuesday, 1 May 2018 20:57 (seven years ago)

netflix doesn't make more money per stream nor does it release streaming figures to the public

― Daniel Johns Hopkins (jim in vancouver), Tuesday, 1 May 2018 21:01 (seven years ago)

i have no interest in season 4 remix honestly. it was a shit season

― Daniel Johns Hopkins (jim in vancouver), Tuesday, 1 May 2018 21:01 (seven years ago)

Totally unnecessary. You could tell how they had to work around all the actors (un)availability.

― officer sonny bonds, lytton pd (mayor jingleberries), Tuesday, 1 May 2018 21:05 (seven years ago)

Agreed. Making each episode network length would have been a good idea too. 10 extra minutes is a long time in a sitcom.

Hurwitz has said the main reason for recutting was to make the episodes network-compatible for future syndication.

― chilis=lyrics...hypocrits (sic), Tuesday, 1 May 2018 21:20 (seven years ago)

im p stoked for this tbh

― nxd, Tuesday, 1 May 2018 22:15 (seven years ago)

netflix doesn't make more money per stream nor does it release streaming figures to the public

oh, ok. yeah it isn't like companies are run by shareholder privy to non-public information

― Hazy Maze Cave (Adam Bruneau), Tuesday, 1 May 2018 22:19 (seven years ago)

Why would they care about streams?

― Frederik B, Tuesday, 1 May 2018 22:26 (seven years ago)

https://i.ytimg.com/vi/CH1p2_NfzJQ/hqdefault.jpg

― Daniel Johns Hopkins (jim in vancouver), Tuesday, 1 May 2018 22:39 (seven years ago)

I'd be interested to see if the series worked better when recut. I definitely think the pacing of the season was weird, and stifled some of its better jokes, and confused an already confused plot.

― Lou Grant, the Iranian cinema of late '70s TV (stevie), Tuesday, 1 May 2018 22:53 (seven years ago)

4 wasn't as good as 1-3 but had plenty of great scenes and I think a recut could help it... also if there'll be a season 5 I got plenty of good will to spare for this show.

― erry red flag (f. hazel), Tuesday, 1 May 2018 23:26 (seven years ago)

have been watching 4 for the first time lately and while it starts very creakily, and is sometimes like watching a mid-period welles with all the two-shots where you're pretty sure the actors were never together, i've been rly pleasantly surprised by it. if we're going to judge it politically i'm pretty sure i prefer it to the season that's half retard jokes (this word used here because it's the one the show uses, frequently) but tbh even aside from that i actually thought it was Good, v dark and cutting, resituated the bluths in the actual world they infest+pollute after s3's withdrawal into tv meta. (i also prefer this season's tv meta, tho will not be sure how good it really was until i'm done. have so far loved michael's half-season of chasing signatures he has now begun one by one to destroy-- hope he destroys all of them because then the thing will be a kind of crab canon. also appresh Asshole Ron Howard, tho playing yourself as an asshole is p much tv autopilot these days, these days meaning post-larry-sanders, or possibly ever.)

had no idea s4 was all about The Wall and it has impressed me tbh. lucille snarling that this longstanding xenophobic fantasy was "her idea" (that the herman cain parody / trump premonition robbed her of it) is a rly funny joke.

climax of the second gob ep-- "same"-- struck me as sublime. i laughed.

― difficult listening hour, Wednesday, 2 May 2018 01:31 (seven years ago)

it's been a while since I've seen any of this, but I remember enjoying season 4 more than season 3

obviously, neither of them are anywhere near as good as seasons 1-2

― silverfish, Wednesday, 2 May 2018 01:43 (seven years ago)

same

― difficult listening hour, Wednesday, 2 May 2018 01:48 (seven years ago)

Why would they care about streams?

― Frederik B, Tuesday, May 1, 2018 6:26 PM (three hours ago)

not making a comment on motive here but advertisers could conceivably care...

― k3vin k., Wednesday, 2 May 2018 02:29 (seven years ago)

oof that elbow derozan caught looked brutal

― Clay, Wednesday, 2 May 2018 02:30 (seven years ago)

oops lol sorry

― Clay, Wednesday, 2 May 2018 02:31 (seven years ago)

not making a comment on motive here but advertisers could conceivably care...

― k3vin k., 2. maj 2018 04:29 (four hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

But Netflix does not have advertisers? At least not in dk.

― Frederik B, Wednesday, 2 May 2018 06:39 (seven years ago)

Netflix does not have advertisers

― Lou Grant, the Iranian cinema of late '70s TV (stevie), Wednesday, 2 May 2018 06:57 (seven years ago)

Yet

― Lou Grant, the Iranian cinema of late '70s TV (stevie), Wednesday, 2 May 2018 06:57 (seven years ago)

I was put off by the clunkiness of the first few episodes of S4 (as well as, weirdly, the terrible sound) and didn't finish watching it, so I'm excited to try this again.

― Chuck_Tatum, Wednesday, 2 May 2018 12:18 (seven years ago)

- S4 wasn't that great

- will still watch this new version like the damned bananagrabber rube I am

― Cardigan B (King Boy Pato), Wednesday, 2 May 2018 12:24 (seven years ago)

i rewatched the whole of s1-3 then started s4. I remember first time round finding it boring about halfway through but got better towards the end with the Fakeblock and other stuff. I haven't made it that far this time round though. excited for s5.

― kinder, Wednesday, 2 May 2018 18:46 (seven years ago)

This can go in any of 4-5 threads but this is the first one I could find on my phone.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o6XERmXsP-U

― Millennial Whoop, wanna fight about it? (Phil D.), Thursday, 3 May 2018 00:53 (seven years ago)

I haven't seen AD for a long time, but I still say, "Look at banner" quite often.

― President Keyes, Thursday, 3 May 2018 19:21 (seven years ago)

hah that banner is in a few s4 scenes. i think the back of it says BUSTER YOU'RE KILLING ME.

thinking back on it, they kind of regurgitated a lot of storylines for s4. them doing house deals in Iraq is now them doing deals to build the wall. George Sr. becoming a kabbalah guru is now George Sr. becoming a sweat lodge guru. Tobias body horror and going through drug withdrawls is now Maria Bamford doing the same. Michael falling in love with an actress who is also secretly dating a family member is now... Michael dating an actress who is also secretly dating a family member, etc.

still some funny stuff tho.

― Hazy Maze Cave (Adam Bruneau), Thursday, 3 May 2018 19:26 (seven years ago)

s4 remix is up. quite a few new bits

― maura, Friday, 4 May 2018 05:42 (seven years ago)

so far remix is about a hundred times better than s4 original mix

― erry red flag (f. hazel), Friday, 4 May 2018 23:59 (seven years ago)

two weeks pass...

Tony Hale as Buster is the one that gets me laughing in S4. Flashback casting was good, hope they use them again in the next season.

― earlnash, Sunday, 20 May 2018 13:34 (seven years ago)

the remix is v good so far imo. works a lot better. not sure how different it is but i'm not feeling twitchy like i did the first couple of times i watched the original version.

― Lou Grant, the Iranian cinema of late '70s TV (stevie), Sunday, 20 May 2018 19:27 (seven years ago)

Ok I watched some of the remix {waiting for season 6 of roseanne to download} and it does work much better

― ( ͡☉ ͜ʖ ͡☉) (jim in vancouver), Sunday, 20 May 2018 21:26 (seven years ago)

I can barely remember what it was before (supposedly each episode was devoted to one character) but there was a pay dispute about the show being remixed and more episodes added. https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/live-feed/arrested-development-stars-get-pay-bumps-recut-episode-complaints-1112688

― Yerac, Sunday, 20 May 2018 22:13 (seven years ago)

i guess season 5 is going to be sold in two parts now as well. smart of them to sell each season twice.

― Hazy Maze Cave (Adam Bruneau), Monday, 21 May 2018 16:31 (seven years ago)

users don't buy individual seasons on Netflix

― we used to get our kicks reading surfing MAGAzines (sic), Monday, 21 May 2018 16:58 (seven years ago)

pretty sure you have to subscribe to Netflix in order to use it. if the season is dumped all at once then you can subscribe for the month and watch it all and unsubscribe. now that the season is in two parts, a season apart, you have to subscribe twice.

― Hazy Maze Cave (Adam Bruneau), Tuesday, 22 May 2018 22:22 (seven years ago)

that's not how time works

― we used to get our kicks reading surfing MAGAzines (sic), Tuesday, 22 May 2018 22:24 (seven years ago)

subscriptions are monthly, right? additional months equals additional billing. more time = more money. or does time work differently for you?

― Hazy Maze Cave (Adam Bruneau), Tuesday, 22 May 2018 22:25 (seven years ago)

if you only want to watch the whole season, not half at a time, you can just subscribe when the whole season is up

― we used to get our kicks reading surfing MAGAzines (sic), Tuesday, 22 May 2018 22:29 (seven years ago)

i love the idea that there is a significant market of people who would subscribe to netflix solely for arrested development season 5 and cancel immediately upon watching it

― ( ͡☉ ͜ʖ ͡☉) (jim in vancouver), Tuesday, 22 May 2018 23:07 (seven years ago)

I love Adams continuing fight to understand the Netflix business model.

― Frederik B, Tuesday, 22 May 2018 23:21 (seven years ago)

I sign up to Now tv or Netflix for specific series then cancel them.

― kinder, Wednesday, 23 May 2018 13:22 (seven years ago)

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/05/23/arts/television/arrested-development-netflix-interview-jeffrey-tambor.html

yiikes

― reggae mike love (polyphonic), Wednesday, 23 May 2018 20:53 (seven years ago)

pretty much

― mookieproof, Wednesday, 23 May 2018 21:24 (seven years ago)

Wow, Bateman comes off terribly, huh?

― rb (soda), Wednesday, 23 May 2018 21:26 (seven years ago)

yeah wtf was he thinking

― Number None, Wednesday, 23 May 2018 21:27 (seven years ago)

yikes, don't ever defend the guy who was in the wrong. That's his shit to bear.

― Yerac, Wednesday, 23 May 2018 21:30 (seven years ago)

he's just trying to keep the family together I guess. weird interview though (not listened to the clip?)

― kinder, Wednesday, 23 May 2018 21:35 (seven years ago)

Cera must be extremely glad he didn't show up for that

― Simon H., Wednesday, 23 May 2018 21:40 (seven years ago)

wonder how different it might have been if portia d. *had* been there

― mookieproof, Wednesday, 23 May 2018 21:42 (seven years ago)

bateman by name, patrick bateman by nature

― i am fast and full of teeth. i willl die in a barn fire (bizarro gazzara), Wednesday, 23 May 2018 21:45 (seven years ago)

he's just trying to keep the family together I guess

yes, especially as a senior producer on the show. but also he has a tendency to make "disarming" tasteless jokes.

― we used to get our kicks reading surfing MAGAzines (sic), Wednesday, 23 May 2018 21:47 (seven years ago)

The packaging of the article (including audio!) around Walter's distress feels... cheap and bad? She sounds like someone who hasn't completely processed whatever she went through - this doesn't seem like it would help?

― Chuck_Tatum, Thursday, 24 May 2018 01:11 (seven years ago)

...Meanwhile the article’s (male) writer is scooping the shit out of the story on Twitter and casually mentioning that he cut Alia Shawkat’s quotes. Not great.

― Chuck_Tatum, Thursday, 24 May 2018 08:58 (seven years ago)

bateman's capn save-a-tambor routine is definitely nagl

― ||||||||, Thursday, 24 May 2018 09:39 (seven years ago)

Will Arnett is the only male cast member with the good sense to keep his mouth shut during that discussion.

― Matt DC, Thursday, 24 May 2018 13:29 (seven years ago)

And Tony Cole.

― El Tomboto, Thursday, 24 May 2018 13:50 (seven years ago)

Tony Hale?

― valorous wokelord (silby), Thursday, 24 May 2018 13:52 (seven years ago)

Bateman's apology was pretty decent i guess

― Lou Grant, the Iranian cinema of late '70s TV (stevie), Thursday, 24 May 2018 14:02 (seven years ago)

I have reached out to Jessica personally to apologize. Arrested Development is one of my families. Regardless of my intentions, it is clear that my words, both said and unsaid, served to minimize Jessica’s pain and for that I am extremely sorry.
— Tony Hale (@MrTonyHale) May 24, 2018

― we used to get our kicks reading surfing MAGAzines (sic), Thursday, 24 May 2018 16:40 (seven years ago)

xp I read that as "Batman's apology." But I bet he gets that a lot. Bateman, not Batman.

― Eliza D., Thursday, 24 May 2018 16:43 (seven years ago)

His apology was ok. At least it emphasizes this larger problem of overcompensatingly standing by or forgiving the aggressor while ignoring every single obvious cue to listen to and trust the feelings of the victim. And I just watched 8 seasons of Archer in a month, Jessica Walters is a treasure.

― Yerac, Thursday, 24 May 2018 17:48 (seven years ago)

So s5 is up. Only 2 eps in tho, so far so meh.

― nashwan, Tuesday, 29 May 2018 21:56 (seven years ago)

watched it all, waiting to see how it all plays out. feel like splitting the season in two was better for revenue than for joke payoffs. also i liked the original edit of s4

― maura, Tuesday, 29 May 2018 21:57 (seven years ago)

i hope jessica walter is ok though—not wrt the tambor stuff but just in general. her voice was hoarse here and on ARCHER, and her DIFFICULT PEOPLE cameo was acted from a hospital bed...

― maura, Tuesday, 29 May 2018 21:58 (seven years ago)

pretty sure you have to subscribe to Netflix in order to use it. if the season is dumped all at once then you can subscribe for the month and watch it all and unsubscribe. now that the season is in two parts, a season apart, you have to subscribe twice.
― Hazy Maze Cave (Adam Bruneau), Tuesday, May 22, 2018 6:22 PM (one week ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
that's not how time works
― we used to get our kicks reading surfing MAGAzines (sic), Tuesday, May 22, 2018 6:24 PM (one week ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
subscriptions are monthly, right? additional months equals additional billing. more time = more money. or does time work differently for you?
― Hazy Maze Cave (Adam Bruneau), Tuesday, May 22, 2018 6:25 PM (one week ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
if you only want to watch the whole season, not half at a time, you can just subscribe when the whole season is up
― we used to get our kicks reading surfing MAGAzines (sic), Tuesday, May 22, 2018 6:29 PM (one week ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
i love the idea that there is a significant market of people who would subscribe to netflix solely for arrested development season 5 and cancel immediately upon watching it
― ( ͡☉ ͜ʖ ͡☉) (jim in vancouver), Tuesday, May 22, 2018 7:07 PM (one week ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
I love Adams continuing fight to understand the Netflix business model.
― Frederik B, Tuesday, May 22, 2018 7:21 PM (one week ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

lmao

didn't watch remix cuz i loved the orig structure of s4, stoked for s5

― flopson, Tuesday, 29 May 2018 22:05 (seven years ago)

I totally forgot she was in DIfficult People. Now sad that there aren't new episodes.

― Yerac, Tuesday, 29 May 2018 22:31 (seven years ago)

me too :(

― maura, Tuesday, 29 May 2018 23:33 (seven years ago)

So s5 is up. Only 2 eps in tho, so far so meh.

Exactly my feeling so far, worse than s4. But my brother said it picks up in ep 3

― Vinnie, Sunday, 3 June 2018 12:48 (seven years ago)

ep 1 felt sluggish and lacked the show's typical pace. my hopes aren't high, though I thought the re-edited s04 was great.

― Total Goat Rodeo (stevie), Sunday, 3 June 2018 19:15 (seven years ago)

episodes 1 & 2 are a total rehash of season 4, but the reason of the season is considerably better.

it's still not the same as those first two seasons :(

― 808s & Deep States (voodoo chili), Sunday, 3 June 2018 19:37 (seven years ago)

Maeby is better in this season.

― Leaghaidh am brón an t-anam bochd (dowd), Sunday, 3 June 2018 20:05 (seven years ago)

the first two seasons are gold and nothing can spoil them, not even constant rewatching

― Total Goat Rodeo (stevie), Sunday, 3 June 2018 21:34 (seven years ago)

It does indeed get significantly better after ep 2 - I'd even say it gets close to the pace and feeling (and sometimes funniness) of the early seasons

― Vinnie, Monday, 4 June 2018 12:24 (seven years ago)

there's a lot of good moments, i need to watch it again. i had a feeling throughout that they didn't quite nail the characterization of GOB, maybe all those forget-me-nows scrambled his brain even more than before. one thing i really thought improved over S4 was Michael, he is really amazing in that that straight man role. the wacky Michael of S4 was hard to watch.

― 808s & Deep States (voodoo chili), Monday, 4 June 2018 12:56 (seven years ago)

saw the first half of season 5, it's just kind of there. not really that funny. the Gob-George Sr. stuff is v lame. the Maeby stuff is the most interesting just cos it is fun to see her in different disguises.

i've gone back to rewatch some of season 1. yeah it was comedy gold right out the gate. they definitely slipping since then.

― Hazy Maze Cave (Adam Bruneau), Monday, 4 June 2018 13:31 (seven years ago)

shawkat is the funniest one now!

― imago, Monday, 4 June 2018 14:11 (seven years ago)

she's the one who it feels like the writers have the best handle on, followed by, in order, Lucille, Buster, and Tobias

― 808s & Deep States (voodoo chili), Monday, 4 June 2018 14:28 (seven years ago)

Shawkat was absolutely otm throughout that interview.
Shame they cut her quotes

― synonym toast crunch (Ross), Monday, 4 June 2018 17:29 (seven years ago)

I am still in the middle fo rewatching season 4 and the entire Wall joke is amazing now in 2018.

― Yerac, Tuesday, 5 June 2018 00:33 (seven years ago)

the Maeby stuff is the most interesting just cos it is fun to see her in different disguises.

OTM whereas I was groaning every time Tobias showed up in costume. Uh, just like they do in the show I guess.

― nashwan, Tuesday, 5 June 2018 10:13 (seven years ago)

Almost done with season 5. GOB is totally forced in this??? and the David Cross/Kyle Mooney stuff is the worst. the rest is kind of fine.

― Yerac, Friday, 8 June 2018 01:22 (seven years ago)

But yeah, Maeby is the mvp this season.

― Yerac, Friday, 8 June 2018 01:24 (seven years ago)

one month passes...

Huh I just realised we're nearly finished with s5. I've been waiting for it to get good (Maeby and George Michael scenes are the best imo) but there's too much re-visiting not quick-enough storylines and too much Ron Howard (he should stick to the narration which admittedly he is excellent at)

― kinder, Monday, 9 July 2018 11:30 (seven years ago)

only half the season has been posted so far.

― kelp, clam and carrion (sic), Monday, 9 July 2018 18:58 (seven years ago)

yeah ive gone back and rewatched the first 3 seasons. feels like every episode had some crazy brand new plot to it. it is unfortunate w s5 they kind of got mired in leftover plots from s4, which weren't that great to begin with. apparently there were a lot of behind the scene issues, last minute rewrites, etc. that affected the show.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qRbc7Qn1Bp4

thought this recent interview w Cross was interesting

― Hazy Maze Cave (Adam Bruneau), Monday, 9 July 2018 19:57 (seven years ago)

eight months pass...

second half of season 5 is up

― maura, Friday, 15 March 2019 14:33 (six years ago)

braced for the badness

― my future think tank (stevie), Friday, 15 March 2019 14:45 (six years ago)

wow i was just thinking about this yesterday. forgot that s5 wasn't over

― PPL+AI=NS (imago), Friday, 15 March 2019 14:45 (six years ago)

s4 was quite good in retrospect

― PPL+AI=NS (imago), Friday, 15 March 2019 14:46 (six years ago)

I never thought there'd be a time when I feel 'meh' about new AD, but here we are. I can't remember much about the first half of s5.

― kinder, Friday, 15 March 2019 20:24 (six years ago)

Maebe in the retirement home is the only thing that comes to mind for me, but I spoiled it by binging the inferior new edit of S4 beforehand

it's extra-infuriating that Hurwitz spent so much time doing that just months before Netflix started showing off about the choose-your-own-adventure technology that the original S4 had been designed for

― steven, soda jerk (sic), Friday, 15 March 2019 20:41 (six years ago)

...but then didn't exist or he wasn't allowed to use or w/e happened

― steven, soda jerk (sic), Friday, 15 March 2019 20:41 (six years ago)

also, how on earth is it nearly 6 years ago since SEASON 4 came out??

― kinder, Friday, 15 March 2019 20:59 (six years ago)

i didn't watch s4 when it came out because everyone was so down on it and i had found s3 pretty moribund; then years later i gave it a try and was something like 2/3rds thru really enjoying it (post above somewhere) when all the episodes disappeared and were replaced by the new edits lol

while researching this post i discovered you can still watch them if you go to the "trailers" section! but at the time i just lost momentum and forgot about it.

― difficult listening hour, Friday, 15 March 2019 21:05 (six years ago)

My last post here was that the season picked up, but I can't remember a goddamn thing about the first half of s5 and have zero desire to watch more

― Vinnie, Saturday, 16 March 2019 04:22 (six years ago)

odd that arrested development was first to use "the sound of silence" as meme sadness cue, but totally missed out on "careless whisper" as meme sexy cue.

― adam the (abanana), Monday, 18 March 2019 19:23 (six years ago)

i still sort of enjoy this show. watched a few episodes of the second half of season 5 last night.

it does occur to me that if i still got as much out of the show as i did watching seasons 1 and 2 nearly a decade an a half ago then i would've binged all the new episodes the second they were released. the pleasures of the show are a lot more subdued now.

there's no laugh out loud moments.

my main complaint, which I've made about all the post-season 3 arrested development itt repeatedly I'm sure so i apologize, is that it is no longer really a sitcom, and the ensemble cast is not really ever, eh, ensemble. characters have their own arcs, they share the screen with maybe one of the other main characters, then it goes on to another plot arc with some family members who are not interacting at all with the ones we just saw.

the plot is so convoluted that you sort of lose track of what the hell the characters' motivations are anymore

― ( ͡☉ ͜ʖ ͡☉) (jim in vancouver), Monday, 18 March 2019 19:44 (six years ago)

i think the timing's been really off since s3, as well, and the kind of comedy AD is lives and dies on its timing.

i need to rewatch s1-2 at some point, as the subsequent seasons seems to have dulled my love for it.

― my future think tank (stevie), Monday, 18 March 2019 20:22 (six years ago)

There are insane amounts of ADR in this half season. Sometimes it's played as a joke (oscar with his mouth obscured like wilson on home improvement) but it's always distracting.

George Michael's involvement in the family business is satisfying, and ends the show well. GOB finally pulling off a cheesy illusion is good too.

― adam the (abanana), Tuesday, 19 March 2019 17:34 (six years ago)

one year passes...

season five is really bad. feel like it’s a deliberate tanking of the project (and who can blame them)

― maura, Sunday, 10 May 2020 00:26 (five years ago)

yeah, I couldn't keep track of all the plotlines, not because it was confusing or there were too many of them, but because they were bad, and also the episodes were bad and unfunny.

― Pinche Cumbion Bien Loco (stevie), Sunday, 10 May 2020 06:18 (five years ago)

the denouement of S5 is one of the most disappointing in all TV

― imago, Sunday, 10 May 2020 10:18 (five years ago)

four weeks pass...

oh jeez this is awful (s5)

― Ste, Monday, 8 June 2020 14:42 (five years ago)

Yup.

― Pinche Cumbion Bien Loco (stevie), Monday, 8 June 2020 18:18 (five years ago)

Yeah, I couldn't get through the second half of s5. Gave up after a few episodes.

― Vaguely Threatening CAPTCHAs, Monday, 8 June 2020 20:18 (five years ago)

I thought season 5 was quite a bit better than season 4. still quite shit and not a patch on the first couple of seasons, or even season 3, which was already a step-down imo.

― Rik Waller-Bridge (jim in vancouver), Tuesday, 9 June 2020 17:12 (five years ago)

interesting that this and twin peaks are definitely in my top 5 tv shows but I think that the majority of both shows was bad lol

― Rik Waller-Bridge (jim in vancouver), Tuesday, 9 June 2020 17:13 (five years ago)

yeah i watched a couple of episodes of season 5 and it did seem better than 4. the worst thing about 4 was what a fucking loser they turned Michael into.

― Evans on Hammond (evol j), Tuesday, 9 June 2020 17:40 (five years ago)

two years pass...

Huh.

https://variety.com/2023/tv/news/netflix-removing-arrested-development-original-seasons-1235521721/

― Ned Raggett, Monday, 13 February 2023 22:31 (two years ago)

And that's why you always buy a hard copy.
Actually, I was thinking that I'm not sure if I can bring myself to buy a DVD of s4 and s5 - checked Amazon and it doesn't even look like s5 was released on DVD?

― kinder, Monday, 13 February 2023 22:37 (two years ago)

I heard a radio show the other day about these kind of cancellations - it means they don't have to pay any residuals to the cast

― Andy the Grasshopper, Monday, 13 February 2023 22:37 (two years ago)

Netflix doesn’t pay residuals at all afaik, not least because to do so would be releasing viewership data

― more crankable (sic), Tuesday, 14 February 2023 01:42 (two years ago)

I read they pay residuals based on subscriber numbers rather than view count. May give them incentive to cut underperforming shows

― Vinnie, Tuesday, 14 February 2023 05:28 (two years ago)

This sucks / I have the DVDs SOMEWHERE, but...

― his cartoon heart expands, then he relaxes by smoking crack (stevie), Tuesday, 14 February 2023 08:32 (two years ago)

I mean I haven't watched it in a few years but could imagine myself going back and rewatching (again) at some point in the future.

― his cartoon heart expands, then he relaxes by smoking crack (stevie), Tuesday, 14 February 2023 08:32 (two years ago)

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