South Park: Classic or Dud?

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I hate it. It has never once made me laugh. I just don't get its appeal. Even my history teacher likes it? Why God, why?

Bill

― Bill, Saturday, 9 June 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

"South Park" got really tiresome really fast. I mean it thinks its really shocking and subversive but jokes like "You killed Kenny".."You bastards" wasnt even funny the first time never mind over 20 episodes. I hate the way it takes the piss out of everything and that it's too cowardly to have any particular stance of its own.

― Michael, Saturday, 9 June 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

It was really funny the first time I saw it, but it doesn't hold up to repeat viewings. Plus I declare a fatwah on any metaller who thinks they're funny for going "They killed Kenny...". It's distasteful, but not in a good way.

― DG, Saturday, 9 June 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

It's best because it takes the piss out of everything without offering a stance of its own. True bipartisanship.

― Otis Wheeler, Saturday, 9 June 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

I like South Park. I think it's a criticism of the notion of original sin, as the kids are basically good hearted and get 'corrupted' by the world around them. But, it's very possible that I'm reading way too much into it. It has it's funny moments, better than Beavis and Butthead for sure.

― james e l, Saturday, 9 June 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

No stance of it's own? Are we watching the same show? It's a run-on critical commentary on nearly *everything* - including the issues that no one else dares to even touch. A reverse commentary granted, but it's very pointed.

― Kim, Saturday, 9 June 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

I only meant no stance in the sense that they'll dog on liberals and conservatives both, and anything else that deserves attacking.

― Otis Wheeler, Saturday, 9 June 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Hating everything is a bit banal, don't you think?

― DG, Saturday, 9 June 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Do they though? They dog on extremes and idiocy and (unjustified) phenomena, but I think they stand somewhere solid inside all that. But why define that? It would be damn boring and narrow if they spelled it out for us. Personal interpretations would suffer. They are a bit jerky tho I guess.

― Kim, Saturday, 9 June 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

It's mainly been ruined for me by idiot metallers. A thin line, I think, between cult and cunt.

― DG, Saturday, 9 June 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

"It's a thin line between cult and cunt." In some strange way, that's the greatest quote I've ever heard. I can't wait to take it out of context. Hating everything isn't banal at all, it's great.

― Otis Wheeler, Saturday, 9 June 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

That's the problem with all reverse commentary I think. It's bad or dangerous because there is always a LOT of people out there that just won't get the joke - and if that's the case, the intention becomes irrelevant. It's either the best or worst thing ever, and you end up being torn in half by the result. Same issue I have with Eminem.

― Kim, Saturday, 9 June 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

But South Park's attempts to shock are really obvious. The show is just a jaded and cynical. If you're gonna cock a snook at everything do it with some style rather than "I havent seen a jew run that fast since Poland '39!" jokes. A satellite dish coming out of Cartmans arse is funny first time round, but like DG said it doesent bear well for repeated viewings. Once you get over the jokes about eating boxes and how Cartman's mom is a slut, its completely empty and heartless.

Vids out-grosses South Park by light years. "What a load of TUNKY!!" *cue psychotic stare at camera and lolling of head

― Michael, Saturday, 9 June 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Typical Vids for anyone who hasn't seen it: "Ah Stef, that stone you threw has truncated my tunky mid-coil! My anal aperture's winking like a de-oxygenated guppy fish!" Who needs South Park?

― DG, Saturday, 9 June 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Even their internet adress is priceless. Spamjavelin!! HAAHAHA!!

― Michael, Saturday, 9 June 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Ah, there's so much in Vids to make it THE BEST THING EVER. Satan The Lucky Wanksock, their hatred of Guy Ritchie and Vincent Gallo, and of course the all-purpose battle-cry, "ALASHAPALOOD!".

― DG, Saturday, 9 June 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Guy Ritchie and Vincent Gallo are my two least favorite people in the world. This Vids thing actually does sound like the best thing ever.

― Otis Wheeler, Saturday, 9 June 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Well, go here. The Flash intro is almost a mini episode. They don't have any video clips up, just the audio from some series and selected samples. You can listen to the audio tracks whilst looking at the stills they've put up, I suppose.

― DG, Saturday, 9 June 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

I remember them calling Murray Walker a wanker. Viva Vids.

― Dave, Saturday, 9 June 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Wait, that wasn't nice.

― Dave, Saturday, 9 June 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

re hating everything ie cynicism - this idea seems so old to me I hardly believe its true anymore but just to rush through it - the only thing that can reign in capitalism is government. becoming cynical about 'everything' - but it always manifests itself as especially about humanist institutions like politics - is obviously to the benefit of capitalist materialism. ultimately, in a nutshell, materialism loves cynicism.

ha ha what's the bet I'll get some really cynical reply to this from someone who doesn't even consider themselves right wing?

yeah Stalinism was better, obv.

― Maryann, Saturday, 9 June 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Stalinism is/was better - that moustache! Gave Freddie Mercury a run for his money! (Will this do?)

― DG, Saturday, 9 June 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

TIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMYYYYYYY

― Geoff, Saturday, 9 June 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

ha ha what's the bet I'll get some really cynical reply to this from someone who doesn't even consider themselves right wing?

My vote for Pat Buchanan was based solely on his personality.

― Kris, Saturday, 9 June 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Listen, to go back to the topic at hand, South Park is hella cool. I mean, a lot of it sucks, but the fact that Satan has the most happening hula parties totally makes up for it.

― Ally, Monday, 11 June 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

I like South Park. Half the episodes are pretty lame, but the other half are so brilliant that it more than makes up for it.

― Nicole, Monday, 11 June 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

But it's not as good as Vids. ViDs R00l5!

― DG, Monday, 11 June 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Actually, if I may reference another thread (whereupon Mr. Ewing et. al. talked about French TV) - I gained a new appreciation for South Park when I traveled to France for a three-day ultra- cheap sight-seeing tour a couple of years ago. Appreciating the intricate interplay between Wendy Testaburger & Stan Marsh is immeasurably easier when the potty-mouthed chatter is indecipherable & laden with various apostrophes & accents. C'est magnifique! It's no wonder they go ga-ga over Jerry Lewis over there.

And the movie / musical, in any language, is a treat and a half. Actually, I'd have to rank the songs associated with South Park on a level with the best Simpsons numbers.

― David Raposa, Monday, 11 June 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

dude, it smells like arse in here. Of course it does you fat fuck - we're in a sewer.

― Geoff, Wednesday, 13 June 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

seven months pass...

ALL OFF YOUR MOTHER FUCKING COMENTS THAT YOU PEOPLE HAVE MADE IS SO FUCKING STUPID BECOUSE I THINK IT WAS A CLASSIC.

― DANNY ROBOINSON, Tuesday, 22 January 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Well, that settles the matter, I feel.

― Chris Lyons, Tuesday, 22 January 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

one month passes...

South Park is funny as hell.....I dont care what yall think!It does get annoying sometimes....but its usually funny!

― Mic Master Phil, Monday, 11 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

one month passes...

I have to admit that the new season of South Park is fucking hilarious. Anyone see the NAMBLA episode? or the "Towlie" one?

― michael bourke, Thursday, 18 April 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

You wanna get high?

― Samantha, Thursday, 18 April 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

The sex ed episode is also CLASSIC.

― Dan Perry, Thursday, 18 April 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

The one with the "league of super-best friends" was very funny!...Last weeks was the one with the psychotic vengeful Cartman drinking tears! Disturbing!

― jel --, Thursday, 18 April 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

And of course a certain Oxford fivepiece as well. ;-)

― Ned Raggett, Thursday, 18 April 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

"Super-best-friends"and Moses as the super-computer...oh yeah!

― michael bourke, Thursday, 18 April 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

the one with radiohead (episode 501 - scott tenorman must die: go download it) is simply devastating. i haven't watched it since the first season and the movie, but that episode...just magnificent.

― bc, Friday, 19 April 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

*shakes fist angrily upthread*

quickdraw postin whippersnappers!

― bc, Friday, 19 April 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

vidz = bTTR

― a-33, Friday, 19 April 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

VT4 is currently showing the first series at 5pm on a Saturday. I wuv Belgium.

― Jeff W, Friday, 19 April 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Moses as the super-computer

Don't watch it regularly but I think I saw this one way back, and the appearance of Moses as "super-computer" is more specifically the MCP from Tron. (Which had David Warner's face.)

― Alan Trewartha, Friday, 19 April 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

aaargh get christina aguillera off my back

― Queen G, Saturday, 20 April 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

HOW ABOUT THE BUTTERZ EPISODE THAT COMMENTED ON THE MOTEHR THAT DROWNED HER BABIES?!?! = CLASSIC GENIUS

― CHAKI, Saturday, 20 April 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

The Moses episode was great, especially for giving me the chance to affect a deep, resonant voice and say "I DESIRE... MACARONI PICTURES!" in public.

― Mitch Lastnamewithheld, Saturday, 20 April 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

three months pass...

don't forget to bring a towel!

― Mark Molloy, Monday, 29 July 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

South Park is just great. This most recent episode with the kidnapping hysteria and "I AM NOT A STEREOTYPE!" had me in tears. "YOU GOD-DAMN MONGOLIANS! KNOCK DOWN MY SHITTY WALL!"

(Using a horrible accent to get the word "shitty" on air multiple times; classic or dud?)

― Dan Perry, Monday, 29 July 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

three months pass...

South Park is a show if you dont like it then don't fucking watch it. America is turning gay in front of my eyes. All of the kids being brought up are going to be homosexual with all the restrictions about what is right and wrong etc. etc. Makes me fucking sick...

― Johnny, Sunday, 17 November 2002 05:55 (twenty-two years ago)

Johnny,

Will you suck my cock?

love,
Uncle Sam

― James Blount (James Blount), Sunday, 17 November 2002 06:52 (twenty-two years ago)

B-b-b-b-but South Park is very pro-gay! Big Gay Al is, like, one of the most likeable characters ever!

Anyway: classic, if only for being the first tv show in the history of mankind to accurately portray what kids are really like (i.e. mean-hearted, sadistic bastards.) Also great: the deliberatley anti climatic endings ("yeah man, cartoons kick ass!" is my favourite)

― Daniel_Rf (Daniel_Rf), Sunday, 17 November 2002 12:09 (twenty-two years ago)

i still quite like my original sin answer.

― jel -- (jel), Sunday, 17 November 2002 12:13 (twenty-two years ago)

get in line james

btw I've got aides

Oh shit, that doesn't really work when it's written now.

― Queen G (Queeng), Sunday, 17 November 2002 17:02 (twenty-two years ago)

I've got a love-hate thing with that show, but I have to admit that my eyes stung with tears I was laughing so hard at the "Super Wacky Action Bike" commercial from the Pokemon parody episode. And, like everyone else, I abused the "TIMMEH" catchphrase for a few weeks.

― Nate Patrin (Nate Patrin), Sunday, 17 November 2002 23:11 (twenty-two years ago)

oh my, the Fellowship of the Ring episode last night was classic.

― felicity (felicity), Monday, 18 November 2002 13:55 (twenty-two years ago)

Oh bother, I forgot to tape that. Well, I'll catch it eventually!

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 18 November 2002 14:00 (twenty-two years ago)

one year passes...

I will never, ever understand why people love South Park.
Well, I don't mind that the average mindless viewer loves it,
but how can the same people who liked Ren & Stimpy and
Beavis & Butthead (deservedly so, they were great) jumped
on this tired bandwagon. South Park is about 6% funny, at
best, and that's mostly because of Cartman and Towelly
(I'm a sucker for drug humor).

On a related note, has anyone else been profoundly dissapointed
with the latest season of Home Movies? I mean, there's still
a few funny bits per episode, mostly featuring McGurk, but
that's a far cry from the nonstop, jaw-dropping hilarity of 75% of
all the previous episodes!

― squirl plise, Wednesday, 7 April 2004 16:50 (twenty-one years ago)

last night they showed one of the very first southparks, the anal probe one, and i was reminded of how fucking hilarious it was in the beginning. and i much preferreed the old cut and paste animation to the new computer-generated type.

― Ask For Samantha (thatgirl), Wednesday, 7 April 2004 17:01 (twenty-one years ago)

i think it peaked around the time of the movie but is still better than any other animated comedy right now

― stevem (blueski), Wednesday, 7 April 2004 17:02 (twenty-one years ago)

South Park is about 6% funny, at best

the ol' 'blind 'em with vague science' trick eh?

― stevem (blueski), Wednesday, 7 April 2004 17:03 (twenty-one years ago)

It's still great. The Passion episode was insanely funny.

― El Diablo Robotico (Nicole), Wednesday, 7 April 2004 17:03 (twenty-one years ago)

(xpost) Have you seen the Passion of the Christ episode? Or the sex-ed episode? Or the Lemmywinks episode? Or the coffee chain episode? Or the chicken pox episode?

Furthermore, Ren & Stimpy had ONE funny season (the first one).

― VengaDan Perry (Dan Perry), Wednesday, 7 April 2004 17:15 (twenty-one years ago)

I spent part of the weekend gigglnig just by thinking of the epsiode where Cartman tries to go to school on Halloween as Hitler.

― Andrew Farrell (afarrell), Wednesday, 7 April 2004 17:17 (twenty-one years ago)

Cartman is completely irredeemable at this point. It's great!

― VengaDan Perry (Dan Perry), Wednesday, 7 April 2004 17:24 (twenty-one years ago)

I laugh so hard at this show that I embarrass myself. (I live alone.)

― Jeanne Fury (Jeanne Fury), Wednesday, 7 April 2004 17:25 (twenty-one years ago)

ren and stimpy season one >>>>>>> all south park ever.

― J.D. (Justyn Dillingham), Thursday, 8 April 2004 00:10 (twenty-one years ago)

South Park's still good. There's still no ther show on TV that can show a gerbil embarking on a mystical quest inside a gay leather slut's ass.

― latebloomer (latebloomer), Thursday, 8 April 2004 00:13 (twenty-one years ago)

ugh..."ther" = "other".

― latebloomer (latebloomer), Thursday, 8 April 2004 00:14 (twenty-one years ago)

I watched it when it first came out, then tired of it and didn't watch it for about 4 or 5 years. Been watching it semi-regularly recently and it's pretty good. In fact, the last few weeks I've been getting more chuckles out of South Park than Chappelle, which follows it.

― oops (Oops), Thursday, 8 April 2004 00:16 (twenty-one years ago)

ren and stimpy season one >>>>>>> all south park ever.

I'm sorry, but this is flat-out wrong. The ONLY Ren & Stimpy episode that can compare to South PArk is "Space Madness".

― VengaDan Perry (Dan Perry), Thursday, 8 April 2004 01:36 (twenty-one years ago)

Did the two guys do any live-action movies after Baseketball?

― miloauckerman (miloauckerman), Thursday, 8 April 2004 01:41 (twenty-one years ago)

No, cause how could you ever top that?

― oops (Oops), Thursday, 8 April 2004 01:47 (twenty-one years ago)

though wasn't one of them in some quasi-porno?

― oops (Oops), Thursday, 8 April 2004 01:48 (twenty-one years ago)

Orgazmo was finished before Baseketball was, but released later.

― Kingfish Balzac (Kingfish), Thursday, 8 April 2004 02:05 (twenty-one years ago)

Please tell me you had to look that up.

― oops (Oops), Thursday, 8 April 2004 02:35 (twenty-one years ago)

south park joke

― alan r. banana (alanbanana), Thursday, 8 April 2004 02:45 (twenty-one years ago)

nope, i saw both flicks in the theater.

altho, Orgazmo DID require us to sneak booze in, just in case.

― Kingfish Balzac (Kingfish), Thursday, 8 April 2004 02:48 (twenty-one years ago)

The only thing I remember from Baseketball is one saying "How to speak San Franciscan"-pulling down his pants-"vagina!"

― miloauckerman (miloauckerman), Thursday, 8 April 2004 02:51 (twenty-one years ago)

>South Park's still good. There's still no ther show on TV that
>can show a gerbil embarking on a mystical quest inside a gay
>leather slut's ass.

See, there's that attitude. South Park is good because they're
shocking, they're dangerous, they're pushing the limit.
PLEASE. That's not enough.

― Squirrel_Police (Squirrel_Police), Thursday, 8 April 2004 03:00 (twenty-one years ago)

But that isn't funny because it's shocking or dangerous (it's not) - it's funny because it's a gerbil embarking on a mystical quest inside a gay leather slut's ass.

― miloauckerman (miloauckerman), Thursday, 8 April 2004 03:01 (twenty-one years ago)

That post didn't mention anything about being dangerous or shocking. Maybe the postee finds that South Park is the only show who's sense of humor is as bizarre as their own.

xpost my thoughts exactly

― oops (Oops), Thursday, 8 April 2004 03:03 (twenty-one years ago)

Effing dud, Milo. You're describing a setup - no setup is
inherently funny. The humor is all in what you do with the material.

― Squirrel_Police (Squirrel_Police), Thursday, 8 April 2004 03:03 (twenty-one years ago)

no you're just making with the crazy talk. In comedy 90% of the time the setup is the only thing funny. (the onion to thread)

― oops (Oops), Thursday, 8 April 2004 03:05 (twenty-one years ago)

also, the lemmiwinks ep was funny as fuck, thanks to Trey & matt doing their version of those shite 70's folky pop songs from the Rankin Bass Hobbit...

― Kingfish Balzac (Kingfish), Thursday, 8 April 2004 03:07 (twenty-one years ago)

Oops, the Onion's ouevre IS the headlines, really.
Just like bumper stickers, there's no setup or punchline
in that short form.

― Squirrel_Police (Squirrel_Police), Thursday, 8 April 2004 03:18 (twenty-one years ago)

whatever. setups can be inherently funny. i'm willing to bet the vast majority of comedy begins with a funny setup, and is then fleshed out in order to fill up the appropriate amount of time/pages.

― oops (Oops), Thursday, 8 April 2004 03:22 (twenty-one years ago)

Squir-Po (if I may call you that), you are so "Humor-ist".

― latebloomer (latebloomer), Thursday, 8 April 2004 03:24 (twenty-one years ago)

Well, there are a lot of ways to do great comedy, I couldn't
deny that. But for me, South Park falls direly short in every
aspect.

So I decided to flip on the new episode, thinking that maybe
I'd been unfairly dismissive...

...nope, this IS shit.

"Never date a man with only one credit card. He probably doesn't spend much,
or even worse, it's a debit card. Four credit cards is kinda fishy...so what's
the perfect number of credit cards? Two! That's Right!"

"Boxing is a man's sport...when you're boxing, you're man at your most man.
So just reach inside for that most man part."

This kind of pap passes for comedy in some circles? And why have
we seen the teacher's wife crash & burn ten times and counting?

― Squirrel_Police (Squirrel_Police), Thursday, 8 April 2004 03:51 (twenty-one years ago)

wow Squirrel you're right. it's not funny at all. and to think how wrong i've been in my laughter and enjoyment of this show for so many years.

Thanks for opening my eyes!

― Ask For Samantha (thatgirl), Thursday, 8 April 2004 04:03 (twenty-one years ago)

The first few seasons of SP were mostly shock humor and not that good. Somewhere around the movie they stopped fucking around and decided to turn the show into a strongly moralistic show, where the message is "people need to stop being such fuckwits and act a little more human" and it became golden. Seasons 5 & 6 are the best so far. The new season has been a bit weak so far but still worth watching. Best episodes include "Scott Tenerman Must Die", the Butters episode, the LoTR parody (goddamn that's a good one), "Red Sleigh Down", and, in a completely different vein, "Kenny Dies." [/geek]

The only thing I ever enjoyed about Ren & Stimpy was the line "It's better than bad, it's good!" The artwork was hideous (whereas SP is total eye candy).

― ...in bed. (Chris Piuma), Thursday, 8 April 2004 09:31 (twenty-one years ago)

I loved the one with Cartman's Dawson's Creek lunchbox - the 2001 parody!

― stevem (blueski), Thursday, 8 April 2004 09:35 (twenty-one years ago)

"I..can't let you do that..Kyle"

― stevem (blueski), Thursday, 8 April 2004 09:35 (twenty-one years ago)

the lord of the rings parody one is fucking amazing. i think the series before the current one is pure gold

― the surface noise (electricsound), Thursday, 8 April 2004 09:39 (twenty-one years ago)

The Halloween episode with Korn as the Scooby-Doo gang was pretty fucking hysterical, too.

― VengaDan Perry (Dan Perry), Thursday, 8 April 2004 11:09 (twenty-one years ago)

i still hold "Not Without My Anus" as the best thing they've ever put on television.

here's a buncha quotes from the show, for your reffing pleasure

― Kingfish Balzac (Kingfish), Thursday, 8 April 2004 11:41 (twenty-one years ago)

The LOTR one was just pure unadulterated genius. ESOJ OTM.

― Ricardo (RickyT), Thursday, 8 April 2004 11:44 (twenty-one years ago)

"Trapper Keeper" is the best episode. It parodies about a dozen different sci-fi movies in the space of 21 minutes.

― Sick Nouthall (Nick Southall), Thursday, 8 April 2004 11:44 (twenty-one years ago)

wtf was up with that episode i saw recently where they start turning into Simpsons-style cariactures as well, incredible

― stevem (blueski), Thursday, 8 April 2004 11:45 (twenty-one years ago)

It parodies about a dozen different sci-fi movies in the space of 21 minutes.

as did the masterful 'Deep Space Homer'

― stevem (blueski), Thursday, 8 April 2004 11:46 (twenty-one years ago)

hmm, well maybe just The Right Stuff, 2001 and Planet Of The Apes

― stevem (blueski), Thursday, 8 April 2004 11:46 (twenty-one years ago)

also, the "Children of the Corn" ep was a good mashup too, of Thunderdome, Star Trek, and the Stephen King flick.

― Kingfish Balzac (Kingfish), Thursday, 8 April 2004 11:46 (twenty-one years ago)

Yeah, the LOTR one was just amazing - you can really tell that the guys are fans. I think that the show is *very rarely* shocking for the sake of being shocking, and I could name dozes and dozens of hilarious SP moments that don't deal with gross-out humor or shock value AT ALL. Funnily enough, while the accusations of "lack of heart", cheap gags and overtly cynical outlooks don't ring true for me concerning "South Park" AT ALL, they do pretty much sum up my thoughts on the shows that ppl here have trotted out as being superior ("Ren & Stimpy", "Beavis & Butthead")

― Daniel_Rf (Daniel_Rf), Thursday, 8 April 2004 11:46 (twenty-one years ago)

Mongolians attacking the city walls in the child abduction episode reduced me to tears.

― Ricardo (RickyT), Thursday, 8 April 2004 11:50 (twenty-one years ago)

I've seen bugger all since series 4, and I'm gutted. It's on so late now, like 1am or something. I'll buy the series five DVD box when it comes out.

― Sick Nouthall (Nick Southall), Thursday, 8 April 2004 11:51 (twenty-one years ago)

wtf kingfish, "Not Without My Anus" is the worst episode they ever made! Terrance & Philip are probably the closest that SP has come to being guilty of what its detractors accuse it of...I mean, the anti-canadian humor was done much better in the movie and in "Red Sleigh Down", and Saddam's had plenty better appearences, too, so what do you have left after that? Also, maybe this is a cultural thing, but I've never understood exactly what T&P are supposed to be a parody of.

― Daniel_Rf (Daniel_Rf), Thursday, 8 April 2004 11:53 (twenty-one years ago)

Also, maybe this is a cultural thing, but I've never understood exactly what T&P are supposed to be a parody of.

T&P were designed to be everything that the show was originally accused of being; nothing but "fart jokes & bad animation," as Trey & Matt have said repeatedly in episodes.

the Not Without My Anus was killer for me in that it was the most bizarro/non-sequitor thing they've ever done. They were also proud that they got the Canadian National Anthem on twice on american tv within 22 minutes.

― Kingfish Balzac (Kingfish), Thursday, 8 April 2004 11:59 (twenty-one years ago)

The live action ad in the middle of the Cherokee Hair Tampons episode is one of the funniest things ever.

― Andrew Farrell (afarrell), Thursday, 8 April 2004 12:02 (twenty-one years ago)

ren and stimpy season one >>>>>>> all south park ever.
No. The genius of Ren and Stimpy can be summed up in 6 cartoons: "Stimpy's Invention" (the Happy Helmet); "Black Hole"; "Space Madness"; "Son of Stimpy" (...and it made as souuuunnnnd!); "Yak Shaving Day"; and the "All Kids Love Log" spots.
Now, granted, these individual 'toons are brilliance that will never be exceeded by anyone...anywhere...ever, but sadly, if you put all of that on a VCR tape, and you have slightly less than 1 hour of entertainment. And it's all the Ren and Stimpy you'll ever need.
Nothing else in the series measures up.

South Park on the other hand, has had its ups and downs (the "You Got Served" episode last night was kind of lame) but has had episodes that come close to brilliance. Such as the LOTR parody, or their satire of The Passion.

― Lord Custos Omicron (Lord Custos Omicron), Thursday, 8 April 2004 12:07 (twenty-one years ago)

the Not Without My Anus was killer for me in that it was the most bizarro/non-sequitor thing they've ever done.

More non-sequitor than fighting the frizzies? More bizarro than Niblet, Mecha Streisand, Russel Crowe's tv show or TOWELIE??? NWMA almost feels like it was made to be so tedious and flat on purpose, our anger over not knowing who Cartman's mom is thus being enlarged by outrage over how crappy what they're showing us instead is...which is funny conceptually but, you know, not much fun to sit through.

They were also proud that they got the Canadian National Anthem on twice on american tv within 22 minutes.

Now that truly is cool.

― Daniel_Rf (Daniel_Rf), Thursday, 8 April 2004 12:11 (twenty-one years ago)

i guess the problem here is that people are highlighting South Park's all-out parody episodes, which whilst hilarious are perhaps 'obvious' in their sending-up - does the nature of their parodies not seem a bit laboured? as in 'The Simpsons and Family Guy do this so much we better had too'? I mean one of South Park's biggest strengths is when they have a simple but effective story that's just poking fun at the nuances of life, childhood, hypocrisy among adults and mis-interpretation rather than any direct spoofing of movies. Same goes for the other shows there too though (a big reason why King Of The Hill is so great - they avoid the spoof gimmick, which has been done to death in animated series really).

― stevem (blueski), Thursday, 8 April 2004 12:12 (twenty-one years ago)

wtf was up with that episode i saw recently where they start turning into Simpsons-style cariactures as well, incredible

That would be the "Simpsons did it" episode

― ModJ (ModJ), Thursday, 8 April 2004 12:18 (twenty-one years ago)

And Lemmiwinks is back next week, apparently

― ModJ (ModJ), Thursday, 8 April 2004 12:19 (twenty-one years ago)

stevem is almost OTM; many of their parody/homage shows are ridiculously great, too.

The "You Got Served" episode was weak (way to underutilize the guest stars, guys), but really anything was going to be weak after the Passion episode. Also, I now think Butters is one of the greatest characters ever conceived for television.

― VengaDan Perry (Dan Perry), Thursday, 8 April 2004 12:32 (twenty-one years ago)

Yeah, the LOTR one was just amazing - you can really tell that the guys are fans.

This is very high on my 'to watch' list. I'm patient these days, though.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 8 April 2004 13:11 (twenty-one years ago)

No. The genius of Ren and Stimpy can be summed up in 6 cartoons: "Stimpy's Invention" (the Happy Helmet); "Black Hole"; "Space Madness"; "Son of Stimpy" (...and it made as souuuunnnnd!); "Yak Shaving Day"; and the "All Kids Love Log" spots.

please don't leave out eggyolkio. i only saw it twice. it was a full half hour long. genius. anyone else ever see it?

― the angry cowboy (dick), Thursday, 8 April 2004 14:10 (twenty-one years ago)

oh and also, yeah, south park. it's funny.

i'm always amazed with how quickly they come up with their funny. something happens and the next week you've got a hilarious south park episode dealing with that something.

― the angry cowboy (dick), Thursday, 8 April 2004 14:11 (twenty-one years ago)

what's the one with the film agent? i was hysterical

― stevem (blueski), Thursday, 8 April 2004 14:12 (twenty-one years ago)

(Ren & Stimpy i mean)

― stevem (blueski), Thursday, 8 April 2004 14:12 (twenty-one years ago)

ren and stimpy episode guides. wrong thread, i know...

― the angry cowboy (dick), Thursday, 8 April 2004 14:20 (twenty-one years ago)

Once this show got over trying to be shocking for shock's sake (sometime in the first season), it was pretty damn great. One episode that had me in tears from this season: the goth one. Easy target but so dead on and a great use of Air Supply. Anyone know whether the goth song they used in the bedroom scene was a real song or just a great spoof?

― Vinnie (vprabhu), Thursday, 8 April 2004 14:38 (twenty-one years ago)

The Passion of the Jew was unfunny.

'Child Abduction Is Not Funny' is one of my favourites ever, especially the Ghost of Human Kindness (GOHC: Do you think you can learn to trust people? Tweek: I...I guess so. GOHC: Good, now why don't you let me give you a lift home in my van...) and the whole GODDAMN MONGORIENS thing.

The Ninja one and the Special Olympics one are two of the funniest I've seen. Butters is just like the most relentlessly tragic cartoon character ever, he's like Ralph Wiggum times a million.

― ferg (Ferg), Thursday, 8 April 2004 14:46 (twenty-one years ago)

x-post - I love the goth kid who contemptuously flicks his hair out of his face every seven seconds the entire time he's on screen.

― ferg (Ferg), Thursday, 8 April 2004 14:48 (twenty-one years ago)

that episode was fuckin' awesome. Truly Butters is a god

― Donna Brown (Donna Brown), Thursday, 8 April 2004 14:55 (twenty-one years ago)

The only thing I ever enjoyed about Ren & Stimpy was the line "It's better than bad, it's good!" The artwork was hideous (whereas SP is total eye candy).

the art wasn't pretty, but the animation was a hell of a lot more expressive (and funny) than SP's bland computerized cut-outs. i agree that the first season was the only good one, but that's because nickelodeon fired john kricfalusi and replaced him with ~~slugs corporate dolts who didn't understand cartoons. it'd be like saying "roadrunner cartoons sucked because they weren't any good when chuck jones wasn't making them anymore."~~

― J.D. (Justyn Dillingham), Thursday, 8 April 2004 15:03 (twenty-one years ago)

Um.
― ...in bed. (Chris Piuma), Thursday, 8 April 2004 17:59 (twenty-one years ago)

Goddammit. Better?
― ...in bed. (Chris Piuma), Thursday, 8 April 2004 18:00 (twenty-one years ago)

No, that's it.

― ...in bed. (Chris Piuma), Thursday, 8 April 2004 18:00 (twenty-one years ago)

I stopped watching regularly ages ago, because it got tiresome, particularly the "fight a big movie monster" story template they were always relying on. But still whenever I flick past it there's something funny being said. I'm just tired of the voices, I think (and people talking in the voices in real life. Please stop).

― anthony kyle monday (akmonday), Thursday, 8 April 2004 18:04 (twenty-one years ago)

South Park's limited animation style (which they occasionally show they're not limited to: see the LoTR episode or perhaps the recent "playing with weapons" one) is actually more expressive because of its limited vocabulary. It's, you know, it's almost like an Ozu movie or something.

The Passion episode wasn't that good -- I was expecting more.

AKM, they don't use that schtick very often these days (compared to the first few seasons).

― ...in bed. (Chris Piuma), Thursday, 8 April 2004 18:09 (twenty-one years ago)

Did you say Ozu? Holy shit.

― Squirrel_Police (Squirrel_Police), Thursday, 8 April 2004 18:27 (twenty-one years ago)

Playing with weapons was awesome -- it just seemed so right in reg. to the way that kids see themselves while playing.

Terrace and Phillip are Beavis and Butthead, no?

― ModJ (ModJ), Thursday, 8 April 2004 18:50 (twenty-one years ago)

Scott is better than Terrance and Phillip -- "I'm giving you cancer -- WITH MY MIND!".

― El Diablo Robotico (Nicole), Thursday, 8 April 2004 19:01 (twenty-one years ago)

playing with weapons was excellent.

― Ask For Samantha (thatgirl), Thursday, 8 April 2004 19:07 (twenty-one years ago)

Also, I now think Butters is one of the greatest characters ever conceived for television.

Maybe, but his voice is one of my all-time favorites. I giggle even if he doesn't actually say anything funny. The sound of him morosely barking is etched into my brain.

― oops (Oops), Thursday, 8 April 2004 19:12 (twenty-one years ago)

Ha, the new episode was nice! But it was probably better if you have been following the show -- my favorite part was the new twist on "how can we torture Butters".

― ...in bed. (Chris Piuma), Thursday, 8 April 2004 19:17 (twenty-one years ago)

also, somewhere, Trey & Matt said that Butters is the nickname for their animation producer. They love Butters.

― Kingfish Balzac (Kingfish), Thursday, 8 April 2004 19:25 (twenty-one years ago)

Butters reminds me of myself.

― latebloomer (latebloomer), Thursday, 8 April 2004 19:47 (twenty-one years ago)

"That's me!"

― Butters (Dan Perry), Thursday, 8 April 2004 19:47 (twenty-one years ago)

― latebloomer (latebloomer), Thursday, 8 April 2004 19:54 (twenty-one years ago)

Butters is fantastic, but I hope that, after all they've done to him in the last few episodes, they leave him alone for a bit. More Tweak!

― ...in bed. (Chris Piuma), Friday, 9 April 2004 03:02 (twenty-one years ago)

i think the show has actually gotten stronger as it has gone on... they do a great job of toying with all of the media-generated temporary hysterias of american life. that being said, i think the funniest moment of the show was during the jesus/santa cabaret scene in the "mr hankey's christmas classics" episode when santa starts singing "rio" by duran duran. classic.

― Aaron Grossman (aajjgg), Friday, 9 April 2004 18:40 (twenty-one years ago)

please don't leave out eggyolkio.
Sorry. Never saw that one.

The Passion episode wasn't that good -- I was expecting more.
I give Trey and Matt credit for coming out and courageously saying what needed to be said about The Passion: "This isn't entertainment. It's a snuff film."
Never were truer words spoken.

― Lord Custos Omicron (Lord Custos Omicron), Saturday, 10 April 2004 02:14 (twenty-one years ago)

Sure. I mean, they were written in my local weekly months before they got around to saying it, but they do admittedly have a slightly larger audience.

― ...in bed. (Chris Piuma), Saturday, 10 April 2004 02:33 (twenty-one years ago)

OMG YOU JUST GOT GOTHSERVED WTF

― teeny (teeny), Saturday, 10 April 2004 12:55 (twenty-one years ago)

That was my favorite thing! And the goth dancing was all too accurate.

― El Diablo Robotico (Nicole), Saturday, 10 April 2004 13:19 (twenty-one years ago)

they should have included the 'clawing the cobwebs away' and 'reaching out of the grave' variants.

― teeny (teeny), Saturday, 10 April 2004 13:46 (twenty-one years ago)

The trick is to always look like you are dancing alone in your suffering, no matter how many people you are with.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Saturday, 10 April 2004 13:49 (twenty-one years ago)

"Dancing isn't something you do in public -- you do it alone at 3 am in your bedroom!"

― El Diablo Robotico (Nicole), Saturday, 10 April 2004 13:53 (twenty-one years ago)

one month passes...

It's my day off, and I'm watching You Got Served during lunch purely because of the South Park episode.

― Tep (ktepi), Wednesday, 19 May 2004 16:58 (twenty-one years ago)

This sounds like a fine reason!

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 19 May 2004 17:01 (twenty-one years ago)

Now its on.

― Spinktor, Wednesday, 19 May 2004 17:02 (twenty-one years ago)

seven months pass...

blood orgy! blood orgy!

― teeny (teeny), Monday, 27 December 2004 01:08 (twenty years ago)

That was fantastic.

― The Ghost of Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Monday, 27 December 2004 03:27 (twenty years ago)

Also, it's amazing how much funnier the You Got Served episode is on repeated viewings.

Also, BLOOD ORGY!

― The Ghost of Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Monday, 27 December 2004 03:37 (twenty years ago)

That Woodland Critters episode almost made my head explode. I think the show's as funny as it's ever been. And it's in the zone now where the Simpsons was after 4 or 5 years, where the writing is still sharp and the ideas are still pretty fresh, but it's been absorbed into the culture enough that nobody's really paying much attention to it anymore -- which allows them to kind of fly below the radar in plain sight, and get away with things they couldn't have in the first few seasons.

― gypsy mothra (gypsy mothra), Monday, 27 December 2004 04:14 (twenty years ago)

It's my day off, and I'm watching You Got Served during lunch purely because of the South Park episode.

haha omg mr teeny just tivo'd this movie!

― teeny (teeny), Monday, 27 December 2004 04:52 (twenty years ago)

I'm going to say occasionally classic, but usually dud.

The Christian Rock episode was one of the funniest things I've ever seen ("I Might Be Born Again, But I Wasn't Born Again Yesterday")

― Hurting (Hurting), Monday, 27 December 2004 04:53 (twenty years ago)

blood orgy!

― teeny (teeny), Monday, 27 December 2004 16:04 (twenty years ago)

Also, blood orgy!

― Casuistry (Chris P), Monday, 27 December 2004 22:20 (twenty years ago)

one month passes...

I only just saw the Christmas special!

― Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Saturday, 19 February 2005 16:54 (twenty years ago)

So, allow me to say: "Without the mountain lion around, the Lady Porcupiney can give birth to the Antichrist!"

― Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Saturday, 19 February 2005 16:55 (twenty years ago)

three weeks pass...

The hippie episode wasn't too good.

― Chris Michaels, Thursday, 17 March 2005 03:39 (twenty years ago)

Did you see the latest one? It wasn't a very good episode at all, and it included actual not-animated blood-riddled sex-change operation footage.

― Casuistry (Chris P), Thursday, 17 March 2005 03:59 (twenty years ago)

limited skills, unflaggingly assholish/contrarian POV, confusion of "offensive" w/funny = crappily made, occasionally amusing lowbrow cartoon. The movie was good. The show gets pretty tiresome.

Also fuck them for running a non-union shop.

― Shakey Mo Collier, Thursday, 17 March 2005 17:42 (twenty years ago)

they are definitely assholes, and probably should be shot, but sometimes it's funny.

non-union shop?

― the hitmanizer, Thursday, 17 March 2005 17:46 (twenty years ago)

virtually every animation studio/film studio is a union shop, and with good reason.

― Shakey Mo Collier, Thursday, 17 March 2005 17:51 (twenty years ago)

the last ones i saw were the one with Ben Affleck and the couple with the buttocks on their faces, followed by the one where Mr Garrison invents the gyroscope

ABSOLUTELY DISTURBINGLY BRILLIANT/BRILLIANTLY DISTURBING

― Sven Bastard (blueski), Thursday, 17 March 2005 17:53 (twenty years ago)

I thought the hippie episode was pretty ROFL-worthy, but that may be because I lived in a 'hippie' house in the Bay Area in college and it brought back a lot of pleasant memories.

― o. nate (onate), Thursday, 17 March 2005 21:48 (twenty years ago)

Ugh, I don't know. The fact that they didn't explain it as some Cartman power-fantasy was kind of interesting, but most it seemed shallow.

― Casuistry (Chris P), Thursday, 17 March 2005 22:29 (twenty years ago)

The movie SUCKED. Musicals suck, esp comedic ones.

― ()ops (()()ps), Thursday, 17 March 2005 22:36 (twenty years ago)

nah, musicals are awesome (when done well)

― Shakey Mo Collier, Thursday, 17 March 2005 22:41 (twenty years ago)

The hippie one sucked (except for Chef) but Mr. Garrison's surgery was mind-meltingly gruesome in a great way. Not particularly funny, but awesome. Also, the follow-up plastic surgery was hilarious.

― The Ghost of Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Thursday, 17 March 2005 22:44 (twenty years ago)

The surgery episode was just to set up the eventual return of Lemmywinks down the line though, surely?

"Awesome-O" may be one of the five best TV episodes ever.

― Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Thursday, 17 March 2005 22:46 (twenty years ago)

The hippie episode wasn't too good.

They love strawman attacks!

xpost

Dan, what did Chef do that was even funny?!!??!

― Dr. Eldon Tyrell (ex machina), Thursday, 17 March 2005 22:46 (twenty years ago)

CHOCOLATE SALTY BALLS

― Jimmy Mod Has Returned With Spices And Silks (ModJ), Thursday, 17 March 2005 22:47 (twenty years ago)

the new golden era of musicals

― mark s (mark s), Thursday, 17 March 2005 23:09 (twenty years ago)

"You're...a lawphin?"

Didn't laugh much at the hippie one.

― Michael Philip Philip Philip Philip Annoyman v1.0 (Ferg), Thursday, 17 March 2005 23:27 (twenty years ago)

I don't know why the hippie thing tickled me so much. Judging from the reaction here, I guess it was just me. The political sub-text was a bit obvious - listening to jam bands isn't going to change the world - but I don't watch South Park for political enlightenment. I just liked the juxtaposition of the "Invasion of the Body Snatchers"/"The Blob" type narrative arc with the image of a bunch of patchouli-smelling hippies listening to jam bands.

― o. nate (onate), Friday, 18 March 2005 00:34 (twenty years ago)

"You kids just haven't been to college yet"

― Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Friday, 18 March 2005 00:45 (twenty years ago)

yeah hippies are stupid! Man, comedy genius right there.

― Shakey Mo Collier, Friday, 18 March 2005 00:49 (twenty years ago)

But that wasn't even really the point! OK, maybe it was. But it was still funny!

― o. nate (onate), Friday, 18 March 2005 00:50 (twenty years ago)

Mo, you do realise that because you can explain a joke it doesn't mean that the joke wasn't funny, right?

― Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Friday, 18 March 2005 00:55 (twenty years ago)

My coworker adored the hippie episode for a basic reason: SLAYER

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 18 March 2005 00:56 (twenty years ago)

I didn't even see the episode, I'm just bitchy.

― Shakey Mo Collier, Friday, 18 March 2005 01:06 (twenty years ago)

"You kids just haven't been to college yet"

I bet David Horowitz watches a tape of this episode and jerks off to it.

― Stupornaut (natepatrin), Friday, 18 March 2005 03:18 (twenty years ago)

Hippie episode was great at the beginning, great setup, Cartman locking hippies in his basement ("Here's a bunch of joints, and... here's a guitar"), and then it didn't do anything very clever with it. The action/horror movie satire was lame.

― sunburned and snowblind (kenan), Friday, 18 March 2005 05:35 (twenty years ago)

I just saw it and I agree. Though I liked the use of Slayer.

― ()ops (()()ps), Friday, 18 March 2005 06:18 (twenty years ago)

I really need to catch up with the show, but I like the idea it'll serve as a catalog of all the pop culture stuff of the past few years I didn't care about otherwise. Handy. ;-)

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 18 March 2005 07:13 (twenty years ago)

See, it's just that "hippies don't like Slayer" isn't really funny -- it's obvious. It might be cool or something, but it isn't funny. "Sixth graders are afraid of water", that's funny.

― Casuistry (Chris P), Friday, 18 March 2005 07:51 (twenty years ago)

Dan, what did Chef do that was even funny?!!??!

"We need a scientist, an engineer, and a black person to sacrifce when things go wrong." (According to my wife, most of this episode was an extended harshing on "The Core". She also agreed that the episode was weak.)

― The Ghost of Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Friday, 18 March 2005 19:08 (twenty years ago)

Being obvious doesn't mean something can't be funny. But I agree it wasn't very funny in this instance. (I just liked it due to my personal history with jokes about Slayer)

― ()ops (()()ps), Friday, 18 March 2005 19:21 (twenty years ago)

one month passes...

Tonight's show about Michael "Jefferson" was funny! I don't know if it was new. I didn't catch all of it. By the end, Wacko Jacko is a disintegrating skeleton. The message was a good one - you shouldn't try to be a kid when you have a kid. Anybody else see this one?

― Maria :D (Maria D.), Friday, 6 May 2005 01:41 (twenty years ago)

It's an old one, from last season I believe. It was all right, but I got really irritated with all the MJ squeals and "hee!"s and whatnot. OK, we get that it's Michael Jackson, enough!

― Casuistry (Chris P), Friday, 6 May 2005 07:59 (twenty years ago)

It was funny.

I started off thinking South Park sucked, thinking that the shtick was just shock humor. But, now I realize it's a great show and always watch it when I discover it's on.

― Unfortunate Prankster (Unfortunate Prankster), Friday, 6 May 2005 12:56 (twenty years ago)

four months pass...

so wait, how long has the WB been airing south park reruns?

― 100% WJE (Jody Beth Rosen), Tuesday, 4 October 2005 05:24 (twenty years ago)

That's happening nationally? I noticed that too, but figured that it was a local board-op who had left the wrong switch on or something.

― Pleasant Plains /// (Pleasant Plains ///), Tuesday, 4 October 2005 16:05 (twenty years ago)

It started maybe 2 or 3 weeks ago?

― Casuistry (Chris P), Tuesday, 4 October 2005 16:10 (twenty years ago)

"Panthers" in the movie were the best shit ever.

― Jonothong Williamsmang (ex machina), Tuesday, 4 October 2005 21:06 (twenty years ago)

one month passes...

tonights (Trapped in the closet) was very good, loved the R. Kelly appearance, the constant urging for Tom Cruise to come out of the closet, and the total fuck-off to scientology.

the only bad thing is that for the second straight week, trey parker and company have written themselves into a hole that they can't really resolve. Do they really expect to be sued over this episode?

― JD from CDepot, Thursday, 17 November 2005 03:41 (nineteen years ago)

was last week's ep the gay marriage one?

― kingfish hobo juckie (kingfish 2.0), Thursday, 17 November 2005 04:05 (nineteen years ago)

no, it was the ginger kids one

― JD from CDepot, Thursday, 17 November 2005 04:07 (nineteen years ago)

Mocking hippies made some sense back when, say, Elvis Costello did it in 1977. Now it's just a corny rightwing canard and profoundly clueless, like mocking beatniks in 1968.

Fuck these guys; they're the Dennis Miller of tv toons.

― M. V. (M.V.), Thursday, 17 November 2005 04:10 (nineteen years ago)

yeah, the mocking hippies one seemed like nothing more than leftover animosity from trey & matt being surrounded by them at CU-Boulder. Tho I did like the "Cartman as Kevin McCarthy" aspect, mussed hair & all.

― kingfish hobo juckie (kingfish 2.0), Thursday, 17 November 2005 04:13 (nineteen years ago)

"leftover animosity from trey & matt being surrounded by them at CU-Boulder"

thats exactly what it is, and its no reason to overlook this show, which is often very funny and insightful. ive always hated the idea that its just a step or two below O'Reilly or Limbaugh, that just seems like a ridiculous talking point in and of itself.

― JD from CDepot, Thursday, 17 November 2005 04:18 (nineteen years ago)

tonight's ep was a lot like the mormon one, only with far more "they're in the closet jokes!" and less singing.

Still, the ending(and watch the credits) is cute.

― kingfish hobo juckie (kingfish 2.0), Thursday, 17 November 2005 06:59 (nineteen years ago)

Also, i don't think tonight's ending was nessarily them writing into a corner. It seemed more a set-up for the joke in the credits, with Stan being all defiant before they cut to the work of John Smith, etc.

― kingfish hobo juckie (kingfish 2.0), Thursday, 17 November 2005 07:21 (nineteen years ago)

i thought the gingervitis episode was fantastic

― j blount (papa la bas), Thursday, 17 November 2005 08:42 (nineteen years ago)

Because you love sucky things?

Tonight's was probably the only one this season worth watching, and yeah, it was more or less a rehash of the much better Mormon episode. Still, not bad at all.

― Casuistry (Chris P), Thursday, 17 November 2005 09:09 (nineteen years ago)

ive always hated the idea that its just a step or two below O'Reilly or Limbaugh, that just seems like a ridiculous talking point in and of itself.

Talking point? Whose talking point? Hippies Anti-Defamation League?

― M. V. (M.V.), Thursday, 17 November 2005 13:04 (nineteen years ago)

Phish fans have feelings too, I suppose.

― KSTFUNS (Ex Leon), Thursday, 17 November 2005 13:47 (nineteen years ago)

Of the reptile brain variety, perhaps.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 17 November 2005 13:54 (nineteen years ago)

ive heard a lot of people say something along the lines of "Matt and Trey are just closet conservatives." and then there is that book about "south park conservatives"

" Anderson argues that Comedy Central's cartoon series, South Park, embodies the "fiercely anti-liberal comedic spirit" of the "new media" from Kaus to Coulter. The cartoon, he writes, reflects a "post-liberal counterculture" that is "particularly appealing to the young, however much it might offend older conservatives." "

― JD from CDepot, Thursday, 17 November 2005 14:31 (nineteen years ago)

The cartoon, he writes, reflects a "post-liberal counterculture" that is "particularly appealing to the young, however much it might offend older conservatives."

And you think this is bullshit? I don't. I think it's basically accurate (though grouping them with Ann Coulter is bullshit). They're fundamentally big-hearted, I guess, but they're also part of the Transgressive Cryptoreactionary Fratboy meme. (The asshole who ran fuckedcompany.com was another example, btw.)

― M. V. (M.V.), Thursday, 17 November 2005 15:03 (nineteen years ago)

god, i just dont see it. I mean, Cartman is so far to the right that he goose-steps, and they hate hippies, but i suspect they are at heart apolitical. I mean, look at the election episode, where they pitted a giant doche against a turd sandwich. Or the gay marriage episode, where the elected official (Colorado Gov, i think) is just really displeased when he has to make a decision that people actually care about.

― JD from CDepot, Thursday, 17 November 2005 15:32 (nineteen years ago)

If they're in line with anything, it's the hipster libertarian thing, the suck.com-Reason-Peter Bagge crowd. I thought the Scientology one was just so-so, it was a little too deliberate and the "trapped in the closet" gag went on waaaay too long. The ginger kids one was good.

― gypsy mothra (gypsy mothra), Thursday, 17 November 2005 17:44 (nineteen years ago)

I think my fave bit was just straightforwardly telling the whole Xenu/volcano thing, and putting up "THIS IS WHAT SCIENTOLOGISTS ACTUAKLLY BELIEVE" in bold during the entire thing.

but yeah, these guys are libertarian types.

On the other hand, I think the Suck.com folks in particular weren't nec. so much libertarians as just straight hipster contrarian asshole/nihilist-types. Remember that they were active during the Clinton years, so they had to go against that. Snarky for no particular reason, other than just being so. Wonkette never changed her tone, even after Suck went down. The Pose is all that matters, etc.

― kingfish hobo juckie (kingfish 2.0), Thursday, 17 November 2005 17:51 (nineteen years ago)

"straight hipster contrarian asshole/nihilist-types"

which is precisely what south park isn't. you can't create a character like butters and be this.

― JD from CDepot, Thursday, 17 November 2005 17:55 (nineteen years ago)

yeah the only thread of continuity to suck was snark, libertarianism was hardly the party line there. south park dudes decidedly very much libertarian but (thankgod) satirists/comedians first. a shame we'll probably never get to see them do an episode on libertarianism a la 'these freaks actually believe this crazy shit' like they did with mormonism and scientology.

this is gonna be the team america thread all over again isn't it?

― j blount (papa la bas), Thursday, 17 November 2005 18:00 (nineteen years ago)

I still don't understand what was was supposed to be funny or poignant or insightful re: the OMG GLOBAL WARMING nonsense in this season's first episode.

― David R. (popshots75`), Thursday, 17 November 2005 18:03 (nineteen years ago)

honest question: what in libertarianism is truly as crazy as the tenents of mormonism or scientology?

― JD from CDepot, Thursday, 17 November 2005 18:03 (nineteen years ago)

Which is to say, um, yay South Park?

― David R. (popshots75`), Thursday, 17 November 2005 18:04 (nineteen years ago)

this is gonna be the team america thread all over again isn't it?

We can avoid that. What if we were to discuss the political implications of Butters, instead?

Say, have they used Pip since Butters appeared? (aside from their Charles Dickens/Monty Python ep?) I'm trying to think of another character they both torture and celebrate so much as Butters. Pip they just tortured.

― kingfish hobo juckie (kingfish 2.0), Thursday, 17 November 2005 18:12 (nineteen years ago)

I've pretty much given up trying to figure out Stone and Parker's politics. There are so many levels of irony going on that I think it's pretty hard to get to the core of, and when a genuine sentiment does pierce the post-modern fog, it's generally pretty humanist in nature (and often manifests itself in Butters - what a great creation he is). Everytime I find my self getting wound up by some inferred rightest reactionary opinion I try and think, 'they've obviously mainly put that in there to piss off pussies like me', and get on with laughing like a bastard.

It's such an extrodinary show which will be seen in the future as a key satirical work, more so than the Simpsons, I believe.

― chap who would dare to tell uninteresting celeb spotting stories (chap), Thursday, 17 November 2005 18:18 (nineteen years ago)

yeah, i think it trumps the simpsons as well.

you're also really getting at something. To me, Butters has always been a statement that reads something like: "Even if the world is post-modern, not all of it's inhabitants are"

― JD from CDepot, Thursday, 17 November 2005 18:24 (nineteen years ago)

Yeah, particularly accentuated by the fact that Butters has absolutely no grasp of irony (which is often what gets him into so much trouble).

― chap who would dare to tell uninteresting celeb spotting stories (chap), Thursday, 17 November 2005 18:30 (nineteen years ago)

I miss Tweak.

― Casuistry (Chris P), Thursday, 17 November 2005 19:25 (nineteen years ago)

Let's say I pull a '79 Zephyr out of an abandoned garage. Twenty-six years ago some college kid with a nihilist sense of humor affixed to that car a "NUKE THE WHALES" bumper sticker. If I charged the battery, changed the oil, checked the tires and renewed the registration, would I be good to go? No, not unless I

1) wanted the whales nuked, or
2) were completely oblivious to how subsequent events had changed the way other people would view that bumper sticker.

Look, Sean Penn may be kind of an asshat, but no way is Stone & Parker's obvious, disproportionate focus on the asshattery of the Sean Penns of the world "apolitical" in 2005.

― M. V. (M.V.), Thursday, 17 November 2005 20:06 (nineteen years ago)

Celebrity bits of any kind are often their weakest, although their have been exceptions. Robert Smith fighting Godzilla and Sally Struthers dueling with Pat Robertson's space ship were both pretty good. And Brian Boitano, obviously.

― gypsy mothra (gypsy mothra), Thursday, 17 November 2005 20:20 (nineteen years ago)

"their/there"

The internet is rotting my brain.

― gypsy mothra (gypsy mothra), Thursday, 17 November 2005 20:21 (nineteen years ago)

I'm enjoying the discussion of Butters very much. I find many of the Southpark characters very loveable and endearing.

― moley, Thursday, 17 November 2005 20:23 (nineteen years ago)

I agree. I think Timmy is one of the most postive disabled characters that's ever been on screen.

― chap who would dare to tell uninteresting celeb spotting stories (chap), Thursday, 17 November 2005 20:30 (nineteen years ago)

Shockingly, he has his own Wiki. Turns out he really is based on their Director of Animation.

I had forgotten about the whole "Butters' dad is closeted and his mom tried to kill him" ep.

also, i hadn't heard about the bit when Comedy Central didn't want Butters to be abused on screen anymore, or the not-running the "Jared Has Aides" ep.

― kingfish hobo juckie (kingfish 2.0), Thursday, 17 November 2005 20:43 (nineteen years ago)

omg the scientology episode was fucking amazing

― howell huser (chaki), Monday, 21 November 2005 00:19 (nineteen years ago)

r. kelly!

― latebloomer: Do I have a large frog in my hair? (latebloomer), Monday, 21 November 2005 04:16 (nineteen years ago)

"And I'ma pull out my gun

"Oh Geez he's started with the gun again!"

"And I'ma cap this bitch unless Tom Cruise and John Travolta come out the closet..."

― Kv_nol (Kv_nol), Monday, 21 November 2005 11:27 (nineteen years ago)

a shame we'll probably never get to see them do an episode on libertarianism a la 'these freaks actually believe this crazy shit' like they did with mormonism and scientology.

though it isn't quite such a critique, let's not forget that officer barbrady swore off reading b/c he thought that atlas shrugged was a worthless piece of shit.

then again, that could just be sectarian bickering :-)

― Eisbär (llamasfur), Tuesday, 22 November 2005 10:10 (nineteen years ago)

as a segue from the "movie cliches" thread, can we talk about Trey & Matt's usage of standard cliches? I'm thinking in particular about the early 2003 ep, right before the war. Just the bit where Cartman spends most of the time trying to knock himself out in order to go back in time.

― kingfish hobo juckie (kingfish 2.0), Tuesday, 29 November 2005 16:57 (nineteen years ago)

one month passes...

http://www.theregister.co.uk/2006/01/19/south_park_axed/

Tom Cruise kills South Park episode
By Lester Haines
Published Thursday 19th January 2006 12:01 GMT
UK TV viewers will not get to see an episode of South Park which shows Nicole Kidman and fellow Scientologist John Travolta attempting to coax a fictional Tom Cruise character out of a closet, with Kidman saying: "Don't you think this has gone on long enough? It's time for you to come out of the closet. You're not fooling anyone."
Naturally, the robustly heterosexual Top Gun star took exception to this when Trapped in the Closet aired in the US. The episode also showed Stan - believed by the Cruise character to be the reincarnation of Scientology founder L Ron Hubbard - having a pop at Cruise's acting abilities, and Cruise reportedly waved the legal big stick at Paramount and threatened to sue if the offending programme was ever shown again.
An insider said: "Tom is famously very litigious and will go to great lengths to protect his reputation. Tom was said not to like the episode and Paramount just didn't dare risk showing it again. It's a shame that UK audiences will never see it because it's very funny." ®

― kingfish kuribo's shoe (kingfish 2.0), Friday, 20 January 2006 16:00 (nineteen years ago)

"robustly heterosexual"

― aldo_cowpat (aldo_cowpat), Friday, 20 January 2006 16:05 (nineteen years ago)

www.thecloset.notlong.com

― Black Arkestra (Black Arkestra), Friday, 20 January 2006 21:00 (nineteen years ago)

Twat.

― chap who would dare to no longer work for the man (chap), Friday, 20 January 2006 21:02 (nineteen years ago)

"We're not comin' out the closet/so you can just go away"

― Michael A Neuman (Ferg), Friday, 20 January 2006 21:30 (nineteen years ago)

You know, one good way for Tom Cruise to stop people from making fun of him would be to STOP ACTING LIKE SUCH A WIMPLE-FILCHING NUTBAG.

― nabisco (nabisco), Friday, 20 January 2006 21:53 (nineteen years ago)

Has Tom Cruise never heard of the Internet? Everyone should all start re-seeding this episode right now. And everyone will. Nabisco, hahaha, otm, of course.

― rrrobyn (rrrobyn), Friday, 20 January 2006 21:58 (nineteen years ago)

This episode is hilarious. Bless you b1tt0rr3nt!! "Ima pull out my gun..." uber-classic.

― Kv_nol (Kv_nol), Sunday, 22 January 2006 15:04 (nineteen years ago)

one month passes...

I was wondering when this would happen.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 14 March 2006 02:12 (nineteen years ago)

yeah, i was wondering why it hadn't happened sooner.

― latebloomer (latebloomer), Tuesday, 14 March 2006 02:26 (nineteen years ago)

The points that Matt makes are good ones, though. He seems as if he wants to have his religion free from being assailed and retain the ability mock others. LAME.

Hot Buttered Soul is still an amazing album.

― Big Loud Mountain Ape (Big Loud Mountain Ape), Tuesday, 14 March 2006 02:30 (nineteen years ago)

The points that Matt makes are good ones, though.

Absolutely.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 14 March 2006 02:30 (nineteen years ago)

otm

― latebloomer aka rembrandt, the fifth ninja turtle (latebloomer), Tuesday, 14 March 2006 02:37 (nineteen years ago)

If only the sentiments of the last five posts could have been applied to the Team America thread.

WHEN YOU TAKE TURNS MAKING FUN OF EVERYBODY, EVERYBODY WINS.

― NoTimeBeforeTime (Barry Bruner), Tuesday, 14 March 2006 02:43 (nineteen years ago)

Heh I was just searching for a South Park thread to make sure I wouldnt duplicate anything re this very story. Un fucking beeelievable. Lost all respeck for the man, I have.

― Trayce (trayce), Tuesday, 14 March 2006 02:45 (nineteen years ago)

WHEN YOU TAKE TURNS MAKING FUN OF EVERYBODY, EVERYBODY WINS.

Hooray!

I find this all a little suspicious given that there was that hilarious South Park bit done for the MTV movie awards back in 2000 (I'm pretty sure) where they trashed Travolta and Scientology. Hayes wasn't involved but how could he not know about that?

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 14 March 2006 02:47 (nineteen years ago)

so what deep-voiced black musician can do the voice for chef now?!?

― Eisbär (llamasfur), Tuesday, 14 March 2006 03:45 (nineteen years ago)

rakim

― electric sound of jim (and why not) (electricsound), Tuesday, 14 March 2006 03:47 (nineteen years ago)

Maybe they'll just kill chef

― Thermo Thinwall (Thermo Thinwall), Tuesday, 14 March 2006 04:10 (nineteen years ago)

what's method man up to these days?

― Eisbär (llamasfur), Tuesday, 14 March 2006 04:11 (nineteen years ago)

Knowing the SP guys, they'll probably get someone like David Alan Grier to do his "Men on Film" character, just to destroy the Chef mystique wholesale. (And, incidentally, make him way more awesome in my opinion.)

― Eric H. (Eric H.), Tuesday, 14 March 2006 04:11 (nineteen years ago)

Yeah, I was thinking they'll take the opportunity to completely destroy/rebuild the character.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 14 March 2006 04:22 (nineteen years ago)

And God bless them for that.

― Rebekkah (burntbrat), Tuesday, 14 March 2006 04:33 (nineteen years ago)

i'm trying to list all the religions they've riffed on:

-catholicism (the vatican ep, the bleeding statue ep)
-evangelical american protestants (the 2nd starvin' marvin ep)
-mormonism (dum dum dum dum dum ep)
-judaism (constantly, esp with kyle at jew camp)
-tom cruism (inna closet ep)
-Xianity(at least once a season)
-icons as the legion of superfriends

etc

― kingfish da notorious teletabby (kingfish 2.0), Tuesday, 14 March 2006 06:45 (nineteen years ago)

Trey & Matt are supposed to be on Letterman on wednesday, right?

― kingfish da notorious teletabby (kingfish 2.0), Tuesday, 14 March 2006 06:49 (nineteen years ago)

-icons as the legion of superfriends

This aired on syndication tonight! (I had never seen it)

Jesus, Mohammed, Buddha, Krishna, Sea Man vs the Blaine-tologists.

― NoTimeBeforeTime (Barry Bruner), Tuesday, 14 March 2006 07:12 (nineteen years ago)

Can someone point me to the episode that makes fun of libertarians? Because as far as I know, there hasn't been one.

― polyphonic (polyphonic), Tuesday, 14 March 2006 08:31 (nineteen years ago)

In my nightly bout of insomnia last night I couldn't get the phrase "I'm declaring Shenanigans!" out of my head.

It would be great to live in a world were you could just call Shenanigans any time you thought some fucker was ripping you off and a nearby lynch mob would reach for their brooms.

Oh, and Scientologist in fucked up double standards shocker.

― Onimo (GerryNemo), Tuesday, 14 March 2006 10:29 (nineteen years ago)

surely South Park has had a few subtle pops at Islam too (in the 'no really, we CAN'T say THAT about THEM' kinda way). if not, BUCKAAW!

― Konal Doddz (blueski), Tuesday, 14 March 2006 10:37 (nineteen years ago)

As far as I can remember, they haven't made fun of Islam per se. Radical Islam, bin Laden, Saddam...yes, but the actual religion of Islam? Not that I can recall.

If they're on Letterman on Wednesday, I'm TOTALLY watching.

Damnit. Isaac Hayes was the man. Now he's just another fallen icon who is subject to the weirdness.

― Big Loud Mountain Ape (Big Loud Mountain Ape), Tuesday, 14 March 2006 15:21 (nineteen years ago)

Can someone point me to the episode that makes fun of libertarians? Because as far as I know, there hasn't been one.

IIRC, they've never had one.

― kingfish da notorious teletabby (kingfish 2.0), Tuesday, 14 March 2006 15:39 (nineteen years ago)

Can someone point me to the episode that makes fun of libertarians? Because as far as I know, there hasn't been one.

the closest thing to this was the "chicken fucker" episode, with the following being officer barbrady's reaction to reading atlas shrugged:

"Yes, at first I was happy to be learning how to read. It seemed exciting and magical, but then I read this: "Atlas Shrugged" by Ayn Rand. I read every last word of this garbage, and because of this piece of shit, I am never reading again."

then again, this may be just a case of "the narcissism of small differences."

― Eisbär (llamasfur), Tuesday, 14 March 2006 16:18 (nineteen years ago)

lolz

― Konal Doddz (blueski), Saturday, 18 March 2006 14:13 (nineteen years ago)

Whoa, hadn't realized Matt had changed his look:

http://newsimg.bbc.co.uk/media/images/41456000/jpg/_41456146_parkerstone203ap.jpg

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Saturday, 18 March 2006 14:42 (nineteen years ago)

Wow, Trey's lost more hair than I thought.

― kingfish da notorious teletabby (kingfish 2.0), Saturday, 18 March 2006 18:11 (nineteen years ago)

the full text of the press release:

FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE
So, Scientology, you may have won THIS battle, but the million-year war for earth has just begun! Temporarily anozinizing our episode will NOT stop us from keeping Thetans forever trapped in your pitiful man-bodies. Curses and drat! You have obstructed us for now, but your feeble bid to save humanity will fail! Hail Xenu!!!
-Trey Parker and Matt Stone, servants of the dark lord Xenu

― kingfish da notorious teletabby (kingfish 2.0), Saturday, 18 March 2006 19:02 (nineteen years ago)

Hmmmm.

A synopsis of the new episode titled The Return of Chef states that the boys notice "something about Chef that seems different. When Chef's strange behaviour starts getting him in trouble, the boys pull out all the stops to save him."

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 21 March 2006 17:10 (nineteen years ago)

I would suggest they get another 70s soul legend to voice him, but I think they're all dead.

― chap who would dare to be a stone cold thug (chap), Tuesday, 21 March 2006 18:13 (nineteen years ago)

I would suggest they get another 70s soul legend to voice him, but I think they're all dead.

billy paul!

― Eisbär (llamasfur), Tuesday, 21 March 2006 18:16 (nineteen years ago)

Al Green!

― Shakey Mo Collier (Shakey Mo Collier), Tuesday, 21 March 2006 18:19 (nineteen years ago)

Geddy Lee!

― Casuistry (Chris P), Tuesday, 21 March 2006 18:20 (nineteen years ago)

Just bring back Chef's replacement, Mr. Derp.

― The Yellow Kid, Tuesday, 21 March 2006 20:45 (nineteen years ago)

So did no one else see this article, then?

Isaac Hayes did not quit "South Park." My sources say that someone quit it for him.

I can tell you that Hayes is in no position to have quit anything. Contrary to news reports, the great writer, singer and musician suffered a stroke on Jan. 17. At the time it was said that he was hospitalized and suffering from exhaustion.

It’s also absolutely ridiculous to think that Hayes, who loved playing Chef on "South Park," would suddenly turn against the show because they were poking fun at Scientology.

Last November, when the “Trapped in a Closet” episode of the comedy aired, I saw Hayes and spent time with him in Memphis for the annual Blues Ball.

If he hated the show so much, I doubt he would have performed his trademark hit song from the show, “Chocolate Salty Balls.” He tossed the song into the middle of one of his less salacious hits and got the whole audience in the Memphis Pyramid to sing along.

More here: http://www.foxnews.com/printer_friendly_story/0,3566,188463,00.html

But who is Roger Friedman? The article reads a bit odd...

― Trayce (trayce), Wednesday, 22 March 2006 00:43 (nineteen years ago)

Yeah it was reported on Salon too.

― Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Wednesday, 22 March 2006 00:46 (nineteen years ago)

"suffered a stroke"?!? Holy shit. That's terrible (if its true - and I don't see why it wouldn't be. I'm sure Scientology would happily pressure whoever's responsible for his career to withdraw his name from the show).

― Shakey Mo Collier (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 22 March 2006 00:47 (nineteen years ago)

(on the other hand, how could Stone and Parker possibly not be aware of that situation if that were the case? Wouldn't they more happily point the finger at Scientology than one of their own?)

― Shakey Mo Collier (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 22 March 2006 00:48 (nineteen years ago)

Yeah thats why I find the Foxnews article strange. Why is this guy saying "my sources" - wouldnt a stroke have been reported as news by now? I mean I hadn't heard anything elsewhere but yeah you'd think at least the Southpark team would know.

― Trayce (trayce), Wednesday, 22 March 2006 00:52 (nineteen years ago)

im not sure if anyone else saw it tonight, but they dealt with chef/issac hayes with an incredible amount of class. They also alluded to Scientology in the form of the "Super Adventure Club", whose founder discovered things very similar to theatans and found out that the meaning of life was to molest children (an accusaton frequently leveled on Hubbard). I know its shitty to make chef say that he is a child molester, but how else should South Park feel? Here is a guy who enjoyed the show tremendously, and had no problem with anything until they mentioned scientology. Then he goes to the press and says that he is quitting because South Park has crossed the line and is now nothing but offensive to religion. In a way, he raped Matt and Trey, the two people he owes for ressurecting his career. I mean, think of all those fucking chef aid CDs that were sold, all that merch he's gonna collect money on for the next thirty years.

scientology should be outlawed, but i realize that this is america, and we are all entitled to say and think what we want to. What Tom "Katie fucks me with a strap on" Cruise needs to learn is that no one has a right not to be offended.

Im really gonna miss chef.

― JD from CDepot, Thursday, 23 March 2006 04:01 (nineteen years ago)

in berlin we got to watch south park dubbed into german which is of course mega-classic. "oh mein gott! wir haben kenny getodten!" "IHR SCHWEINE!!!"

― joseph (joseph), Thursday, 23 March 2006 04:34 (nineteen years ago)

sie haben*

― joseph (joseph), Thursday, 23 March 2006 04:34 (nineteen years ago)

should we de-index (or google-proof) this thread? the last thing we need is CoS freaks discovering ILX.

― s/c (Jody Beth Rosen), Thursday, 23 March 2006 05:41 (nineteen years ago)

http://youtube.com/watch?v=uCcTqaVLk2U

― Onimo (GerryNemo), Thursday, 23 March 2006 11:10 (nineteen years ago)

The whole Scientology episode:

http://youtube.com/watch?v=SSj9gc36Bw8

― Masked Gazza, Thursday, 23 March 2006 11:36 (nineteen years ago)

deindexed.

― teeny (teeny), Thursday, 23 March 2006 13:56 (nineteen years ago)

thanks, teeny!

― s/c (Jody Beth Rosen), Thursday, 23 March 2006 14:07 (nineteen years ago)

but they dealt with chef/issac hayes with an incredible amount of class

Yeah, that's why they had him fall off a cliff, impaled, mauled by a bear and mountain lion, and then shot. And set on fire, I think.

― David R. (popshots75`), Thursday, 23 March 2006 14:09 (nineteen years ago)

Yeah, but Kyle's eulogy was the point - don't remember crazy, batshit Chef. Remember all the good times we had with Chef.

Darth Chef better make an appearance in later episodes, is all I'm sayin'.

― Big Loud Mountain Ape (Big Loud Mountain Ape), Thursday, 23 March 2006 14:13 (nineteen years ago)

I never fail to be impressed by how quickly those dudes turn out episodes.

― Allyzay Rofflesberger (allyzay), Thursday, 23 March 2006 15:08 (nineteen years ago)

I'm with Ally. This is right on up there with the Saddam Wizard of Oz episode on that front.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 23 March 2006 15:11 (nineteen years ago)

...or the Shaivo episode

― Jimmy Mod: GRILL ENSPEKTOR (The Famous Jimmy Mod), Thursday, 23 March 2006 15:22 (nineteen years ago)

i haven't seen the episode yet, but remember the Kenny/Elian Gonzalez one, where they changed the entire ep in about 3-4 days.

― kingfish da last ubermensch (kingfish 2.0), Thursday, 23 March 2006 15:42 (nineteen years ago)

The leader of the super adventure club had Tom Cruise's nose, did anybody else notice?

― TOMBOT (TOMBOT), Thursday, 23 March 2006 15:43 (nineteen years ago)

this is probably the picture they used as a template, in fact

― TOMBOT (TOMBOT), Thursday, 23 March 2006 15:45 (nineteen years ago)

Yeah, i know Chef was maimed in the end, but to a certain extent, fuck him. He's the one who hurt them. I just think that the overall tone of the episode was excellent. Something like: "We really don't wanna do this to Isaac/Chef, but he's giving us no choice. Regardless, we still love him, and this is scientology's fault. "

And on letterman last week, Matt and Trey says it takes 6 days to do an episode, from writing the story to the finished product.

― JD from CDepot, Thursday, 23 March 2006 17:04 (nineteen years ago)

is that really a surprise given how totally shitty the animation is?

― Shakey Mo Collier (Shakey Mo Collier), Thursday, 23 March 2006 19:38 (nineteen years ago)

is there a YT/Bittorrent of the Letterman appearance anywhere?

― kingfish ubermensch dishwasher sundae (kingfish 2.0), Thursday, 23 March 2006 19:41 (nineteen years ago)

Wow, they can really turn around those bittorrents.

― Pleasant Plains /// (Pleasant Plains ///), Thursday, 23 March 2006 19:56 (nineteen years ago)

it takes a BT about 3 hours or less for most shows to get out, doesn't it?

― kingfish ubermensch dishwasher sundae (kingfish 2.0), Thursday, 23 March 2006 19:57 (nineteen years ago)

So are we to assume that they ditched whatever they originally had planned for the season opener and put this episode in its place? If so, talk about flying by the seat of your pants (unless they knew about Hayes leaving the show long before the news got out).

It was a good episode, all things considered.

― NoTimeBeforeTime (Barry Bruner), Friday, 24 March 2006 04:29 (nineteen years ago)

Well, Friedman's got some more to say -- scroll to the bottom:

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,188720,00.html

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 24 March 2006 04:36 (nineteen years ago)

hmmm it wouldn't be the first time Co$ spoke "for" its members

― latebloomer (latebloomer), Friday, 24 March 2006 06:05 (nineteen years ago)

Yeesh. I am totally confused. I'd love to believe Isaac is cool with all this, but wouldn't you think he would speak out against all this crap -- or at least communicate the truth to the SP guys -- given how much press this has gotten?

― Mitya (mitya), Friday, 24 March 2006 14:28 (nineteen years ago)

Publicity stunt? The story certainly helped the ratings in the season opener, and if Hayes is ill this buys him some recovery time before Chef makes a comeback. If it's true he had a stroke, however mild, it could have affected his speech and therefore his ability to work.

― Onimo (GerryNemo), Friday, 24 March 2006 14:53 (nineteen years ago)

Friedman appears to be a lying sack of shit, depending on who you now want to believe:

http://www.imdb.com/news/wenn/2006-03-27/

Soul great Isaac Hayes has slammed reports a stroke was the real reason he
quit South Park. Last week, an internet report claimed Hayes, 63, had
suffered a stroke in January and a mystery person has issued a press release
on his behalf, declaring his reasons for leaving the program. Scientologist
Hayes departed his voiceover role as ladykiller Chef in the popular
animation series on March 13, claiming he could no longer support the
controversial comedy's "inappropriate ridicule of religious communities."

South Park creators Trey Parker and Matt Stone have killed off the character
of Chef in the opening episode of the new series, which sees the culinary
loverman depicted as a pedophile before dying in a series of grisly events.

Hayes insists his health has nothing to do with his decision to leave the
show, and says the only time he went into hospital was to receive treatment
for high blood pressure and exhaustion. His spokeswoman Amy Harnell says,
"That's a false report. He wasn't in the hospital for very long. He's back
on his feet, and Doing really well. The press release did come from him. He
is the one who decided to leave South Park. Basically, he decided to leave
it behind him."

Harnell adds Hayes is busy preparing himself for fatherhood
again because his fourth wife Adjowa is expecting a baby "due any minute."

― Trayce (trayce), Tuesday, 28 March 2006 23:15 (nineteen years ago)

The hybrid episode is... sorta smug.

― Eric H. (Eric H.), Friday, 31 March 2006 02:29 (nineteen years ago)

The most Team America episode I've seen.

― Eric H. (Eric H.), Friday, 31 March 2006 02:29 (nineteen years ago)

What's smugger than smug? Coming with a show pointing out how smug everyone else is.

As if Parker & Stone have never smelled their own farts, yeah right.

― Pleasant Plains /// (Pleasant Plains ///), Friday, 31 March 2006 02:46 (nineteen years ago)

This season is horrible thus far. And I say that having pretty much loved every season.

― The Brainwasher (Twilight), Friday, 31 March 2006 02:47 (nineteen years ago)

I don't buy the "you're smug cause you accuse other people of being smug" line of reasoning, but that episode was just not funny. Grade= C-

― oops (Oops), Friday, 31 March 2006 03:42 (nineteen years ago)

spokeswoman Amy Harnell

Wasn't the Fox guy's point that unappointed spokespeople were speaking for Hayes?

Besides, isn't it kind of ungrateful to gratuitously kill someone off who's basically been responsible for most of yr success, even if they are a wackjob?

― Chuck_Tatum (Chuck_Tatum), Friday, 31 March 2006 11:06 (nineteen years ago)

That's considerably overstating Chef's role.

― Andrew Farrell (afarrell), Friday, 31 March 2006 11:24 (nineteen years ago)

quels provacateurs. i guess there was no way they'd leave the muhammad cartoons alone. but WHAT WILL COMEDY CENTRAL DO?

― gypsy mothra (gypsy mothra), Thursday, 6 April 2006 03:44 (nineteen years ago)

(or provocateurs, even)

― gypsy mothra (gypsy mothra), Thursday, 6 April 2006 03:48 (nineteen years ago)

the family guy parody was the good part.

― Sterling Clover (s_clover), Thursday, 6 April 2006 03:51 (nineteen years ago)

it was pretty otm.

― gypsy mothra (gypsy mothra), Thursday, 6 April 2006 03:54 (nineteen years ago)

interchangable jokes that have nothing to do with the plot... loved it.

― Dave AKA Dave (dave225.3), Thursday, 6 April 2006 11:01 (nineteen years ago)

interchangable jokes that have nothing to do with the plot...

I don't quite get that criticism though- I mean, I watch Family Guy, South Park, etc. for the laffs; I could care less how integral the jokes are to the show's plotline. Also, it seems to me that South Park's insistence on having a "clever"/esp. meaningful plotline has been contributing the show's recent weakness... e.g. the ham-fisted social commentary in the hybrids episode.

I think the best SP episodes focus on the world of the kids rather than adult concerns-- f'rinstance the Casa Bonita one...

― Dell, Thursday, 6 April 2006 23:26 (nineteen years ago)

I agree. The aliens in Cartman's butt...MechaStreisand...George Clooney as Gay Dog...Fun With Weapons...even the Lord of the Rings episode...that's the stuff I love still. The topical stuff is getting boring because now you know that's all they're going to do. Personally it irritates me, because they're just setting themselves up as jeering nihilists, instead of being wacky guys who remember how freaked out childhood really was.

― VegemiteGrrl (VegemiteGrrl), Friday, 7 April 2006 02:50 (nineteen years ago)

actually, that reminds me. I wanted to start a thread on endless hipster snark/contrarianism as modern nihilism

― kingfish, Friday, 7 April 2006 03:45 (nineteen years ago)

Don't conflate "meaningful" plots with jokes that are integrated with the plotline. The "interchangeability" of the jokes really means they're all the same joke, which is great if you like that joke, but boring if you don't...

― Casuistry (Chris P), Friday, 7 April 2006 04:27 (nineteen years ago)

so, but, is comedy central going to let them show a cartoon of muhammad? and if they do, will anyone care?

― gypsy mothra (gypsy mothra), Friday, 7 April 2006 04:31 (nineteen years ago)

Didn't Muhammad already appear in the Super Best Friends episode?

― The Yellow Kid, Friday, 7 April 2006 05:44 (nineteen years ago)

because they're just setting themselves up as jeering nihilists

even worse, jeering libertarians. and: "the left" is dumb, shrill and self-content.

― baby, disco is fuck (yournullfame), Friday, 7 April 2006 09:58 (nineteen years ago)

Didn't Muhammad already appear in the Super Best Friends episode?

yep. but that was before The Muhammad Cartoons.

― gypsy mothra (gypsy mothra), Friday, 7 April 2006 14:42 (nineteen years ago)

I thought this episode was screamingly funny and not really at all about the cartoon controversy.

― Dan (Hahaha) Perry (Dan Perry), Friday, 7 April 2006 16:09 (nineteen years ago)

the family guy parody thing was totally spot-on

― latebloomer: someone's been drinking my youth! (latebloomer), Friday, 7 April 2006 16:13 (nineteen years ago)

what was the family guy parody?? south park is funnier than family guy

― +++++, Friday, 7 April 2006 16:17 (nineteen years ago)

Basically, Lois would complain to Peter about something banal, Peter would say, "That reminds of the time I *non-sequitur*!", then they would switch to the non-sequitur scene, which would go on for too long before cutting back to Lois making another banal complaint.

The foundation of the episode was that Cartman was using hysteria over the Muhammad cartoons to get "Family Guy" taken off the air because he was pissed that people kept saying he had the same sense of humor.

― Dan (That Reminds Me Of The Time I Auditioned To Be Knight Rider's Car) Perry (D, Friday, 7 April 2006 16:24 (nineteen years ago)

hahahaha

― +++++, Friday, 7 April 2006 16:24 (nineteen years ago)

I like "Family Guy" a lot and I thought it was fucking hysterical.

― Dan (Plus There Was A Big Wheel Chase Scene) Perry (Dan Perry), Friday, 7 April 2006 16:26 (nineteen years ago)

not really at all about the cartoon controversy.

i thought it was funny too. but it was definitely about the cartoon controversy -- along with being about how much trey and matt hate being compared to family guy.

― gypsy mothra (gypsy mothra), Friday, 7 April 2006 16:45 (nineteen years ago)

i mean, for better or worse, i think they take their position as Defenders of the First Amendment kind of seriously. you can argue that that doesn't always make for the hilarity, but sometimes it does, and anyway i appreciate the gesture.

― gypsy mothra (gypsy mothra), Friday, 7 April 2006 16:47 (nineteen years ago)

Much more of the episode was dedicated to ripping on "Family Guy" than was dedicated to the cartoon controversy; there was the one scene with Butters' dad (which was completely awesome) but the rest of the time it was used as a framing device to totally blast "Family Guy".

When I say that the episode wasn't about the cartoon controversy I don't mean to imply that they didn't take a stance on the cartoon controversy; I mean that the episode wasn't focused on the issues behind the cartoon controversy. It was focused on how much they hate "Family Guy".

― Dan (Subversion) Perry (Dan Perry), Friday, 7 April 2006 17:30 (nineteen years ago)

It was focused on how much they hate "Family Guy".

Cheers to them.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 7 April 2006 17:40 (nineteen years ago)

I hope this sets off a "East coast/West Coast rap" style war between the shows. Complete with drive by shootings.

― Lurker L Lurkerstien, Friday, 7 April 2006 17:50 (nineteen years ago)

the best part was why the family guy was using muhammad, which was pretty much just for non-sequiter value and there's him and peter going to get some iced-t and look -- Mr. T. is serving it and he says something like, "hey, fools, want some tea?" and peter says, "uh, ok, yeah i guess." and then there's a pause and peter says "well, this is an awkward pause." and then cut!

― Sterling Clover (s_clover), Friday, 7 April 2006 17:51 (nineteen years ago)

the "puss out" bit was cute, but like with the ayn rand bit, i think there's some serious narcissism of small differences going on here

― kingfish ubermensch dishwasher sundae (kingfish 2.0), Friday, 7 April 2006 19:59 (nineteen years ago)

The weird thing about it was how much it reminded me of the Simpsons' parody of South Park (ie: "They don't tell jokes, they just randomly mention celebrities names in weird situations and then smirk").

― Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Friday, 7 April 2006 20:00 (nineteen years ago)

The episode they showed just before the Muhammad one last night was the Jesus Show vs Jimbo's hunting show episode, where a guy in the audience for TJS can't stop talking about how you can't blame Michael Jackson for wanting to touch children because he's MICHAEL JACKSON, completely apropos of nothing else going on in the episode.

― Dan (Ironing Yum Etc) Perry (Dan Perry), Friday, 7 April 2006 20:04 (nineteen years ago)

i think there's some serious narcissism of small differences going on here

or, how you say, a BEEF.

― gypsy mothra (gypsy mothra), Friday, 7 April 2006 20:08 (nineteen years ago)

admit it. you just want the drive-bys

― kingfish ubermensch dishwasher sundae (kingfish 2.0), Friday, 7 April 2006 20:09 (nineteen years ago)

You know with these guys it's gonna be all smug-bys.

― Dan (My Pandering Humor Is Better!) Perry (Dan Perry), Friday, 7 April 2006 20:29 (nineteen years ago)

why oh why can't it be hug-bys?

― latebloomer: someone's been drinking my youth! (latebloomer), Friday, 7 April 2006 20:35 (nineteen years ago)

It was focused on how much they hate "Family Guy".

Yesterday's syndicated episode was the one where Butters tries to concoct diabolical plans (as Professor Chaos) but discovers that all his ideas had already been used on "The Simpsons". Do Matt and Trey have issues* with "The Simpsons" too?

*yes, I know they technically have issues with everyone and everything

― NoTimeBeforeTime (Barry Bruner), Saturday, 8 April 2006 01:16 (nineteen years ago)

No one has mentioned the calling-out-of-Isaac-Hayes's-hypocrisy yet (in this episode), so I will - and I thought it was kinda funny too.

― Dave AKA Dave (dave225.3), Saturday, 8 April 2006 01:57 (nineteen years ago)

I agree with Dan about Family Guy, it makes me roffle

― Thomas Tallis (Tommy), Saturday, 8 April 2006 04:57 (nineteen years ago)

Me too, but the parody was totally OTM.

― Gilbert O'Sullivan (kenan), Saturday, 8 April 2006 04:59 (nineteen years ago)

OTM but not funny.

― baby, disco is fuck (yournullfame), Saturday, 8 April 2006 06:43 (nineteen years ago)

What it lacked in funny it made up for in bile.

― Gilbert O'Sullivan (kenan), Saturday, 8 April 2006 06:47 (nineteen years ago)

manatees, GREAT.

― Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 13 April 2006 14:47 (nineteen years ago)

Do Matt and Trey have issues* with "The Simpsons" too?

I know it's hard to believe that SP would mention something without taking shots at it but I think it was actually a compliment to the Simpsons.

― Thermo Thinwall (Thermo Thinwall), Thursday, 13 April 2006 14:51 (nineteen years ago)

Do Matt and Trey have issues* with "The Simpsons" too?

The Simpsons parody is actually rather affectionate. And slightly pointless (the other storyline about the sea monkeys in that episode is much funnier).

xpost

― chap who would dare to be a stone cold thug (chap), Thursday, 13 April 2006 14:54 (nineteen years ago)

"I love 'Family Guy'! I mean, yeah it's all just random jokes, but I like that; at least they aren't trying to cram some kind of message down your throat every week."

That and the slapfight were really classic; everything else... eh.

― Dan (Ball Dropped) Perry (Dan Perry), Thursday, 13 April 2006 14:54 (nineteen years ago)

I kinda geeked out on the self-referencing here -- the "part 2 fake out: T&P fake out: part 2!", the Scott Tenerman reference (which was clearly where Cartman was going to go with that), the "Good, you're getting angry" bit. I'm surprised they didn't work in the Super Friends, though.

― Casuistry (Chris P), Thursday, 13 April 2006 16:04 (nineteen years ago)

The end bit with Bush and Jesus defecating all over an American flag was in fact much funnier than anything on "Family Guy".

― Pleasant Plains /// (Pleasant Plains ///), Thursday, 13 April 2006 16:05 (nineteen years ago)

Nothing made me LOL as much as the cop car flipping in the Part 1 chase.

Manatees with idea balls definitely post here.

― Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 13 April 2006 16:07 (nineteen years ago)

The end bit with Bush and Jesus defecating all over an American flag was in fact much funnier than anything on "Family Guy".

When a joke goes on for too long on "Family Guy", I usually find the uncomfortableness amusing. The whole thing with Bush and Jesus was wildly telegraphed in part I with the whole "THERE WILL BE REPERCUSSIONS" stuff (given that this is South Park and they like to make everything ridiculous, symmetrical and usually involve something coming out of at least one ass) and as such I didn't think it was as funny as Matt and Trey probably hoped I would.

They completely wasted the Bart character, I thought.

― Dan (Meh) Perry (Dan Perry), Thursday, 13 April 2006 16:20 (nineteen years ago)

Dan is OTM, but Dave is yet more OTM, because no one is talking about how these episodes are just a further extension of their fury over after the fact censorship of their religious episodes: i.e. "I can't believe you Viacom bastards pulled our Bleeding Virgin Mary episode from a scheduled rerun because the Pope told you to, and our Scientology Episode from a scheduled rerun because Tom Cruise told you to."

The Muhammed cartoons, and Family Guy are just another way to mask their underlying point which is that the 1st amendment stands for the principle that they should be free to mock any religion they want without their episodes getting yanked by offended people in power. I think this season is brilliant so far, maybe not as laugh out loud funny as others, but very nuanced.

― Ash (ashbyman), Thursday, 13 April 2006 17:22 (nineteen years ago)

Ash nails it on the head, I think.

― Dan (Nice) Perry (Dan Perry), Thursday, 13 April 2006 17:24 (nineteen years ago)

last night's was the least funny of the season so far, but lack of laffs somewhat compensated for by me just being glad those guys are around.

it's weirdly appropriate (or appropriately weird) that comedy central is the Most Vital Political Network on tv right now. i don't like carlos mencia much, but even his little intro skit last night was smarter about immigration than anything on cnn.

― gypsy mothra (gypsy mothra), Thursday, 13 April 2006 18:10 (nineteen years ago)

Haha yeah, I kind of completely hate Carlos Mencia with a fiery, unhealthy passion but he's done at least several bits that show rational thought behind his unfunny; one about his "duh-duh-DUH!" jokes where he made the point that any joke about someone that you can't say in front of them isn't a joke, it's offensive bullshit, the other about the immigration cracks he was making last night, particularly when he slammed a female protestor for not the US not treating her like an American when she's waving around a Mexican flag.

― Dan (Go Comedy Central) Perry (Dan Perry), Thursday, 13 April 2006 18:20 (nineteen years ago)

Thank God people never get offended on bulletin boards.

The representation of the White House presscorps was righteous, tho it's impossible to discern an attitude toward W from having him explain the First Amendment. (I haven't seen the rest of the season.)

― Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 13 April 2006 18:22 (nineteen years ago)

last night's was the least funny of the season so far

worse than "smug patrol"? no wai. not one of the best however.

― a.b. (alanbanana), Thursday, 13 April 2006 18:28 (nineteen years ago)

"smug alert" rather

― a.b. (alanbanana), Thursday, 13 April 2006 18:29 (nineteen years ago)

that need to do another movie

― Jimmy Mod: My theme is DEATH (The Famous Jimmy Mod), Thursday, 13 April 2006 18:30 (nineteen years ago)

i like that Chef is still in the opener, only as Sith Chef.

Also, that Terence is still fat.

― kingfish ubermensch dishwasher sundae (kingfish 2.0), Thursday, 13 April 2006 18:48 (nineteen years ago)

I don't know if this past Sunday's Family Guy was a rerun or not, but I found it to be insanely funny. I can't remember all the roffle-worthy parts, but Mayor West staring raptly at the tv and saying "Oh, Jem, you truly, truly, truly are outrageous!" sticks in my mind...Also, Jesus in the wifebeater shirt amid the domestic squalor was hi-larious. Part two of the South Park episode, however, served to underline for me how unfunny the writing on that show has been lately. Even with their self-effacing humor of "at least that show's not preachy..." it all seemed kind of labored, and didn't particularly tickle my funnybone.

For all of their "absolutely nothing is sacred- everything is fair game for poking fun at" they seem to be taking their own show a tad too seriously. I think certain episodes, especially circa 2002-2004 or thereabouts were totally genius, and I was mightily impressed by "Team America", but lately the show is pretty blah for me.

― Dell (Dell), Friday, 14 April 2006 09:58 (nineteen years ago)

I have to agree with Ash's comments, way xpost.

Plenty of things are funny, but the problem with our culture is that there is little satire. Satire, in its highest form, is the most moral of art forms, and it isn't entirely concerned with laughs. Trey and Matt aren't too liberal, but they are far from the closet conservatives people make them out to be. I remember the episode where the priest went to the pope to change the holy document of vatican law, and at the end, Stan says, "does this mean we have to go to church again?", and Stan's Dad replies "No son, it means we get to" Now, granted, he shits out of his mouth after saying this, but i've always found that shit to prevent the show from being too preachy. Another example is the brilliant katrina episode, where Stan tries to admit to starting the flood, but the town only thinks he is speaking symbollically (i.e. We all started the flood), and Stan gets mad when he can't accept responsibility because everyone is so blind to it.

Both of those cases show South Park's noble concern: Personal Morality and Responsibility. Again, NO ONE has the right NOT to be offended if a society decides support free speech. I think South Park went from being a wierd, funny little show about Anal Probes and Aliens to possibly the best Satire American Television has ever produced.

But I do agree that the last few weeks have been rather preachy, but the offenses made against Matt and Trey in the past few weeks are much worse.

― JD from CDepot, Friday, 14 April 2006 19:50 (nineteen years ago)

http://wwtdd.com/index.php?type=box&p=sp2.shtml

"jihad, jihad!"

― kingfish ubermensch dishwasher sundae (kingfish 2.0), Tuesday, 18 April 2006 03:01 (nineteen years ago)

or not.

― kingfish ubermensch dishwasher sundae (kingfish 2.0), Tuesday, 18 April 2006 03:03 (nineteen years ago)

ok this is weird

― Jimmy Mod: My theme is DEATH (The Famous Jimmy Mod), Thursday, 20 April 2006 01:15 (nineteen years ago)

I'm a huge fan of South Park and I've seen every single episode multiple times, but the one tonight was the first that I couldn't even finish. Truly horrible. I hope Matt and Trey come out of their slump soon, even though the last few weren't too bad.

― bob george, Thursday, 20 April 2006 01:30 (nineteen years ago)

Towelie gets over his drug addition and writes a moving book about his experiences. Thanks to Oprah’s support, the book becomes a best seller and his story inspires millions to turn their lives around. However, when he’s caught in a lie by the grand dame of daytime television, Towelie’s old habits start to look might appealing.

― kingfish doesn't live here anymore (kingfish 2.0), Thursday, 20 April 2006 02:22 (nineteen years ago)

I thought it was hilarious, although I'm still trying to figure out if all that dialogue during the hostage situation (with Oprah's minge and Gary) was from some movie in particular or just generic hostage banter.

― Aaron W (Aaron W), Thursday, 20 April 2006 02:44 (nineteen years ago)

McFarlane responds to the South Park criticism in front of (Spoiler Alert) an audience of students:

The “South Park” controversy, which came up numerous times during the talk and question-and-answer session, stems from two episodes that aired earlier this month, which lampooned “Family Guy” and included a scene where its writers are depicted as manatees.

ntroducing MacFarlane, Director of the ASSU Speakers Bureau Adam Kahn, a graduate student in communication, expressed gratitude for the fortunate timing of the event.

“Four days ago our speaker was accused of being a manatee,” he said. “After dinner, I can assure you that he’s not a manatee.”

MacFarlane took his show’s criticism with the candor of a fellow satirist.

“They shit on everybody like we do,” he said, adding that to cry foul would be “hypocritical.”

http://daily.stanford.edu/tempo?page=content&id=20075&repository=0001_article

These cartoons get embarrassing when you detect a sense of pretension from them. Especially F.G. though as (as someone else mentioned on a blog posted here recently) it's humor, while potentially hilarious, is no more sophisticated or funny than that of a typical YTMND.

The absurd + "pseudo-offensiveness" + 80s pop culture = WIN and GOLD. And, as if this needed to be mentioned, having a cult college audience in America in no way correlates you with the "thinking crowd." That implication needs to stop.

― Cunga (Cunga), Thursday, 20 April 2006 06:35 (nineteen years ago)

"gary" :-)

― stockholm cindy: comedy vigilante (Jody Beth Rosen), Friday, 21 April 2006 03:23 (nineteen years ago)

I was watching the Towelie episode, minding my own business, and then Oprah's hoo-ha started talking, and Oprah's hoo-ha was a british guy for some reason, and I just lost it. Lost it I tells ya.

Not quite as nuanced as Cartoon Wars, but not without its charm.

― Ash (ashbyman), Friday, 21 April 2006 04:39 (nineteen years ago)

There was something almost brilliant about that. Mostly it's just not quite where I would have expected them to go with it. Were the minge and Gary voiced by anyone in particular?

― Casuistry (Chris P), Friday, 21 April 2006 05:59 (nineteen years ago)

i'm just pleased that SP have started adding cockney slang to their already admirable comedy repertoire.

― stockholm cindy: comedy vigilante (Jody Beth Rosen), Friday, 21 April 2006 06:01 (nineteen years ago)

Eventually they will merge with The Mighty Boosh, and the resultant comedy-wave will scour the Earth of life.

― Andrew Farrell (afarrell), Friday, 21 April 2006 07:55 (nineteen years ago)

I'm a huge fan of South Park and I've seen every single episode multiple times, but the one tonight was the first that I couldn't even finish. Truly horrible.

Yeah, the Towelie/Oprah one sounded like it could be a good one, but it was painfully unfunny. Those guys are losing it.

― Dell (Dell), Friday, 21 April 2006 10:34 (nineteen years ago)

I was mostly horrified but it was the good kind of horrified.

― Dan ("Mingey... They Got Me, Mingey...") Perry (Dan Perry), Tuesday, 25 April 2006 13:35 (nineteen years ago)

Poor old Gary.

― The Mercury Krueger (Ex Leon), Tuesday, 25 April 2006 15:06 (nineteen years ago)

OMG I just looked up "Gary" and that episode is magically a million times funnier to me.

― Dan (Hahahaha) Perry (Dan Perry), Tuesday, 25 April 2006 15:10 (nineteen years ago)

― Casuistry (Chris P), Tuesday, 25 April 2006 16:16 (nineteen years ago)

That episode was awful, but it was so awful that it's required viewing so you can appreciate how much of a train wreck it is. Compare this to the "Bloody Mary" episode from the end of last season, which was so bad I never want to think about it ever again.

― NoTimeBeforeTime (Barry Bruner), Tuesday, 25 April 2006 16:25 (nineteen years ago)

Yeah, this episode seemed like an exercise in deliberate, focused awfulness, which of course made it hilarious to me.

― Dan (Hahaha) Perry (Dan Perry), Tuesday, 25 April 2006 16:27 (nineteen years ago)

And always remember...

"It's PRINNNNCESS!"

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 25 April 2006 16:31 (nineteen years ago)

What is the secret behind "Gary", Dan?

― Casuistry (Chris P), Tuesday, 25 April 2006 17:01 (nineteen years ago)

Gary is Cockney Rhyming Slang for your Arse (Gary Glitter - Shitter).

― dave's good arm (facsimile) (dave225.3), Tuesday, 25 April 2006 23:59 (nineteen years ago)

Excelsior!

Also, all the Cartman parts were way good.

They've almost redeemed themselves with this one, in my book...though I guess the "season" is over now? After a lousy six frickin episodes?!

― Dell (Dell), Thursday, 27 April 2006 10:03 (nineteen years ago)

I mean, it seems like they were only just advertising the new season, and now they are suddenly advertising the marathon recapping of it. And six episodes=it was really only just over a month's worth of shows. Considering that, by their own admission they are capable of churning them out in a few days, it seems kinda lousy that we are granted a meager half-dozen. An even ten at least would lessen my griping.

They must have a fat contract...which is fine by me...though I hope they take advantage of the leisure time to do more films in the vein of Team America.

― Dell (Dell), Thursday, 27 April 2006 10:25 (nineteen years ago)

There's 7 episodes in a half season, isn't there?

― aldo_cowpat (aldo_cowpat), Thursday, 27 April 2006 11:02 (nineteen years ago)

I don't know exactly, but they were advertising 3 hrs. of recap of the newest ("half")season for this weekend, which would translate into 6 episodes...and to my knowledge they only do the recap of the season after all of the new episodes have been exhausted.

Either way, it seems kinda paltry to me...but maybe I am just greedy!

A mere four weeks-worth of new material- is that a standard for most programs these days? I don't really keep up with these things, but it seems on the slight side to me. I'm imagining that the average network drama or sitcom produces closer to twenty or so...and I'm also guessing that 15-20 years ago that number was even higher.

― Dell (Dell), Thursday, 27 April 2006 11:20 (nineteen years ago)

It's the way most animated shows seem to run, as far as I can work out (I'm british, and so the 6 episode series is king). Every other SP season has been two blocks of 7.

― aldo_cowpat (aldo_cowpat), Thursday, 27 April 2006 11:47 (nineteen years ago)

The mid-season gaps for the last few series have been longer than the gaps between actual seasons. They've done this for the last few, shown half the series in April/March, the rest in October-December.

― Cressida Breem (neruokruokruokne?), Thursday, 27 April 2006 19:51 (nineteen years ago)

OMG AL GORE SUCKS AND IS GAY LOL MANBEARPIG LIKE ALL OF AL GORE'S CAUSES IS FAKE AND A WAY TO GET ATTENTION LOL

this season blows.

― GOD PUNCH TO HAWKWIND (yournullfame), Friday, 28 April 2006 01:28 (nineteen years ago)

the al gore jokes were very, very lame. the only funny bits were the cartman stuff, and the best bit of that was the one they showed in the ads all week where he goes, "t-t-treasure!"

they're so hit and miss. it's like you can tell the weeks where the weed supply runs low.

― gypsy mothra (gypsy mothra), Friday, 28 April 2006 01:32 (nineteen years ago)

Are those the... good weeks or the bad weeks?

― Casuistry (Chris P), Friday, 28 April 2006 03:50 (nineteen years ago)

that's the part i can't tell.

― gypsy mothra (gypsy mothra), Friday, 28 April 2006 06:27 (nineteen years ago)

one month passes...

okay, finally watching the towelie/oprah ep. i now can't hear towelie's voice and not think Chauncey/Wordworth

― kingfish doesn't live here anymore (kingfish 2.0), Sunday, 4 June 2006 21:54 (nineteen years ago)

one month passes...

GO BOYS!

South Park" episode said to have angered Tom Cruise up for an Emmy

NORTH HOLLYWOOD, Calif. One of the Emmy nominees for best animated program is the episode of "South Park" that's said to have angered Tom Cruise and Isaac Hayes.

The episode called "Trapped in the Closet" implies that Cruise is gay and makes fun of Scientology.

Cruise's fellow Scientologist Isaac Hayes reportedly quit because he was upset with the episode. And when it came time to rerun it, Cruise allegedly called Comedy Central and demanded that it be pulled. It was, even though Cruise's people denied he asked for it.

http://www.kron4.com/Global/story.asp?s=5119528

― Cor-Ray (chaki), Friday, 7 July 2006 02:04 (nineteen years ago)

Fuck yeah I hope they win.

― Marmot 4-Tay: forth-coming, my child. forth-coming most righteous champion (mar, Friday, 7 July 2006 03:13 (nineteen years ago)

so fucking awesome

― j blount (papa la bas), Friday, 7 July 2006 04:36 (nineteen years ago)

Loving it.

― Chewshabadoo (Chewshabadoo), Friday, 7 July 2006 11:03 (nineteen years ago)

fear the stink

"Trapped in the Closet," another controversial episode that skewers Scientology and its popular proponent Tom Cruise will rerun July 19. It was last set to repeat in March but was abruptly pulled by the network amid reports that Cruise had used his clout to bury it.

"We just picked the wrong guy to parody because I have a feeling we'll be asked about Tom Cruise for the next two years," Stone said. "Every time we're in a headline, it's like, Tom Cruise and then us in a headline, you start to get that Tom Cruise stink on you."

― kingfish cyclopean ice cream (kingfish 2.0), Saturday, 15 July 2006 15:43 (nineteen years ago)

one month passes...

oh no! fat abbot auf Deutsch!!

― Eisbär (llamasfur), Tuesday, 22 August 2006 02:12 (nineteen years ago)

one month passes...

Just caught the end of last Wednesday's episode. The "MOM! BATHROOM!" bit was the closest thing to a laugh.
I've never played WoW, but I do believe that's the first time I've heard someone say "pwned" on TV.

― Marmot (marmotwolof), Monday, 9 October 2006 05:35 (nineteen years ago)

I'm pretty sure it's come up on either Daily Show or Colbert.

While the poop joke was, you know, played well, the funniest thing was probably Cartman's monotonous squadron leader voice.

― Casuistry (Chris P), Monday, 9 October 2006 05:54 (nineteen years ago)

the WoW episode was funnier than the entire last season. put together. and that's not saying much.

― GOD PUNCH TO HAWKWIND (yournullfame), Monday, 9 October 2006 07:39 (nineteen years ago)

so the last episode, the 9/11 conspiracy theory/urinal poop one... what do we think?

― GOD PUNCH TO HAWKWIND (yournullfame), Friday, 13 October 2006 09:41 (nineteen years ago)

the funniest thing was probably Cartman's monotonous squadron leader voice

YES YES YES YES YES YES YES

so the last episode, the 9/11 conspiracy theory/urinal poop one... what do we think?

I thought it was hysterical. Mr. Mackey's outrage had me in tears.

― Young Fresh Danny D (Dan Perry), Friday, 13 October 2006 12:32 (nineteen years ago)

The little intro's for the Hardly Boys that they kept playing cracked me up.

It was a little weird seeing the burning WTC in such a goofy episode. I guess it won't take thirty years for that image to become something "harmless" like the Hidenberg exploding.

― Pleasant Plains /// (Pleasant Plains ///), Friday, 13 October 2006 14:07 (nineteen years ago)

It didn't take thirty days!

― Andrew Farrell (afarrell), Friday, 13 October 2006 14:54 (nineteen years ago)

I hadn't seen on national television someone zooming into the smoke to see a cartoon character's face.

FARK photoshop contests don't count, as far as I'm concnerned.

― Pleasant Plains /// (Pleasant Plains ///), Friday, 13 October 2006 15:09 (nineteen years ago)

Yeah, the extend Mackey rant about Mr. Venezuela was great.

― kingfish prætor (kingfish 2.0), Tuesday, 17 October 2006 04:02 (eighteen years ago)

"You get a a boner, slap her titties around some and then stick it inside her and pee."
"Stick it inside her and pee..."
"Yeah, unless you don't want to get her pregnant, then you pull it out and pee on her leg."

― Marmot (marmotwolof), Thursday, 19 October 2006 03:20 (eighteen years ago)

http://img0633.paintedover.com/uploads/0633/ikemadeanono.jpg

― kingfish prætor (kingfish 2.0), Thursday, 19 October 2006 04:52 (eighteen years ago)

dammit

― kingfish prætor (kingfish 2.0), Thursday, 19 October 2006 04:53 (eighteen years ago)

I CAN'T FIGHT THIS FEEEELING ANYMORE

― Marmot (marmotwolof), Thursday, 19 October 2006 04:56 (eighteen years ago)

http://img208.imageshack.us/img208/8247/ikemadeanonouj3.jpg

― kingfish prætor (kingfish 2.0), Thursday, 19 October 2006 04:57 (eighteen years ago)

fuck it.

― kingfish prætor (kingfish 2.0), Thursday, 19 October 2006 04:58 (eighteen years ago)

Could see it the first time, man.

― Marmot (marmotwolof), Thursday, 19 October 2006 04:59 (eighteen years ago)

Ok, tonight's Halloween episode was completely awesome.

― Marmot (marmotwolof), Thursday, 26 October 2006 01:40 (eighteen years ago)

I would say "mostly adequate". The only part I thought was really funny was (of course) Butters.

― The Android Cat (Dan Perry), Thursday, 26 October 2006 04:05 (eighteen years ago)

"I HAVE FAITH"

― kingfish prætor (kingfish 2.0), Thursday, 2 November 2006 06:01 (eighteen years ago)

not funny :(

― a.b. (alanbanana), Thursday, 2 November 2006 20:29 (eighteen years ago)

U MAD.

Making fun of Richard Dawkins = funney
Making fun of Richard Dawkins by just showing WHAT HE ACTUALLY THINKS and holding it up for its own ridiculousness (cf the Mormon episode) = funnier
Making fun of Richard Dawkins by just showing WHAT HE ACTUALLY THINKS and holding it up for its own ridiculousness (cf the Mormon episode) in the style of Buck Rogers In the 25th Century = funniest
Making fun of Richard Dawkins by just showing WHAT HE ACTUALLY THINKS and holding it up for its own ridiculousness (cf the Mormon episode) in the style of Buck Rogers In the 25th Century BUT WITH SPACE OTTERS = even more funniestest

"Did not the Dawkins tell us that the most logical answer is the best? They cut down trees to eat off, when they have perfectly good bellies. THEY MUST DIE!"

― aldo_cowpat (aldo_cowpat), Friday, 10 November 2006 13:56 (eighteen years ago)

i couldn't think of a more apt summing up of dawkins (as he is these days) as

"it's not enough to understand that there being a god is really unlikely, and understanding evolution properly leads to rational atheism... you have to be a dick about it to everyone too"

― Britain's Obtusest Shepherd (Alan), Friday, 10 November 2006 15:32 (eighteen years ago)

odd that pt 2 brought way more funny than pt1 of that. ha ha k-10 kit-9 and cocka-3

― Britain's Obtusest Shepherd (Alan), Friday, 10 November 2006 15:33 (eighteen years ago)

Dawkins finding out Mrs Garrison used to be a man over the time-phone was hilarious.

― aldo_cowpat (aldo_cowpat), Friday, 10 November 2006 15:39 (eighteen years ago)

KILL THE ELDER!

― Britain's Obtusest Shepherd (Alan), Friday, 10 November 2006 16:00 (eighteen years ago)

hey aldo, do you watch recent south parks online? (they usually get Digg'd is how i find em)

― Britain's Obtusest Shepherd (Alan), Friday, 10 November 2006 16:02 (eighteen years ago)

I just torrent them at the same time as Lost. One easy thing to remember.

I did note today, while I was looking for the "I will feast on his entrails, I will eat them off my tummy" quote that someone had upped the entire episode to a board though.

― aldo_cowpat (aldo_cowpat), Friday, 10 November 2006 16:46 (eighteen years ago)

otter army riding ostriches = very disturbing

― Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Friday, 10 November 2006 16:51 (eighteen years ago)

six months pass...

this is growing on me with every episode i watch. loads of good'uns, but i'd like to give special mention to 'free willzyx', which actually left me emotionally devastated by the end. a truly brilliant piece of tragedy, IMO.

― Just got offed, Tuesday, 15 May 2007 14:42 (eighteen years ago)

I always kinda liked it, but I recently got seasons 5-10, and have been watching a couple episodes a night. It's brilliant. Although I actually hate him, Eric Cartman is a great character. I loved when he made Scott Tenorman eat his parents, and when he led Congress in singing Asia's "Heat of the Moment".

― j-rock, Wednesday, 16 May 2007 01:49 (eighteen years ago)

i dont get why people say that libertarian comedy is "bipartisan," like they're actually taking shots at all sides. i like south park ok, but dont pretend its not advancing an agenda.

― max, Wednesday, 16 May 2007 02:22 (eighteen years ago)

the only consistent stance i find they take is one of anti-hypocrisy, and that too much is taken too seriously. i think attributing to them some calculated agenda is missing how nimble they can be at times: they still surprise and successfully wrongfoot me at least, even after 11 seasons, but maybe that's because i haven't really tried to draw out some overarching politics between anal probes and oprah's talking genitals. i do find that they tend to overuse stan appealing to common-sense at the end of episodes a bit, in order to point up the stupidity and reductiveness of parents/politicians/celebrities/religion/country music/etc...but still, the targets are so varied that i never really saw it as promoting its own constant ideology.

how would you characterize their agenda? just...libertarian?

― negotiable, Wednesday, 16 May 2007 05:04 (eighteen years ago)

Hahahaha, my friend absolutely adores the scino & mormon episodes, but the Dawkins one pissed her atheist ass right the fuck off. Whereas I live in a void of naught and consequently no thing, tangible or intangible, can harm or offend me. Now to change my lithium-ion battery.

― Abbott, Wednesday, 16 May 2007 05:30 (eighteen years ago)

one month passes...

woodland critter christmas + jared has aides = phenomenal, mind-pillaging madness. the way cartman ends JHA is actually one of the most breathtakingly shocking things they've ever done.

new funniest SP moment: when chef's TV turns into a killer robot in the russell crowe episode

― Just got offed, Saturday, 16 June 2007 23:53 (eighteen years ago)

cartman ands JHA- whats JHA?

― darraghmac, Sunday, 17 June 2007 13:47 (eighteen years ago)

JHA = Jared Has Aides. I thought it ended with Cartman staying in Butters' house pretending to be Butters, getting him in trouble then sitting outside to watch Butters get punished when his parents got home, but I don't get what's shocking about that. Compared to other SP episodes anyway.

― V, Sunday, 17 June 2007 15:13 (eighteen years ago)

Every time this thread gets revived when SP isn't on I get worried that it's finally been axed because of 5c13nt0l0g15t3 or something.

― V, Sunday, 17 June 2007 15:16 (eighteen years ago)

BREAKING NEWS:

MATT AND TREY FOUND OUT LOUIS LIKES THIS SHOW SO THEY QUIT.

― marmotwolof, Sunday, 17 June 2007 19:41 (eighteen years ago)

that's so unfunny it practically zings itself!

― Just got offed, Sunday, 17 June 2007 19:44 (eighteen years ago)

Consider it a tribute to you, then.

― marmotwolof, Sunday, 17 June 2007 21:02 (eighteen years ago)

this conversation is tending towards some sort of humourless absolute

― Just got offed, Sunday, 17 June 2007 22:11 (eighteen years ago)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y-Elr5K2Vuo

― marmotwolof, Sunday, 17 June 2007 22:19 (eighteen years ago)

http://images.jupiterimages.com/common/detail/53/57/23365753.jpg

― Just got offed, Sunday, 17 June 2007 22:27 (eighteen years ago)

wow guys

― BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Sunday, 17 June 2007 22:37 (eighteen years ago)

three months pass...

http://emmys.com/awards/2007pt/nominations_crtv.php?action=search_db#1

wow, they actually won an Emmy for the warcraft ep

― kingfish, Thursday, 4 October 2007 05:49 (eighteen years ago)

holy shit, a Little Britain ref.

― kingfish, Friday, 12 October 2007 06:16 (eighteen years ago)

Last night's ep was...odd.

― kingfish, Friday, 19 October 2007 01:49 (seventeen years ago)

synopsis?

i saw the Bono/poo-record ep the other week, it made me laff

― latebloomer, Friday, 19 October 2007 13:17 (seventeen years ago)

Gonna have to start torrenting these as 11:00 p.m. is now way past my bedtime.

― Abbott, Friday, 19 October 2007 19:03 (seventeen years ago)

Shows based around the kids and their interaction with each other are almost always sweet. Shows based around topical subjects of the time, and subsequently as vehicles for Trey Parker to grind his political axes are a lot more hit and miss.

― DustinR, Saturday, 20 October 2007 21:53 (seventeen years ago)

That Warcraft episode is tremendous.

― Noodle Vague, Saturday, 20 October 2007 21:58 (seventeen years ago)

<i>Shows based around the kids and their interaction with each other are almost always sweet. Shows based around topical subjects of the time, and subsequently as vehicles for Trey Parker to grind his political axes are a lot more hit and miss.</i>

EXACTLY RIGHT.

― GOTT PUNCH II HAWKWINDZ, Sunday, 21 October 2007 07:18 (seventeen years ago)

Yeah, that's pretty much dead on. I'd kinda given up on Spark because I thought it was just "PARKER AND STONE'S OPINIONS4U" nowadays, but I caught the pee-wee hockey episode on Paramount and am so now doomed to start watching it again and getting annoyed every other episode.

― Dom Passantino, Sunday, 21 October 2007 09:19 (seventeen years ago)

^^^Stanley's Cup is one of the very best episodes. I've repped for it before on ILX.

― Just got offed, Sunday, 21 October 2007 09:21 (seventeen years ago)

It's a better sports parody than Parker/Stone's BASEketball and DOdgeball combined, and it's over an hour shorter than either.

― Just got offed, Sunday, 21 October 2007 09:21 (seventeen years ago)

Is it better than the Little League ep because that one makes me hurt with laughter. But yeah, everybody OTM, fuck their fucking politics and fuck off "satire".

― Noodle Vague, Sunday, 21 October 2007 12:44 (seventeen years ago)

Jesus Christ, you have Cylons fighting Santa Claus, and they just need rip on Al Gore some more. What the fuck is up with these guys?

― kingfish, Thursday, 1 November 2007 03:49 (seventeen years ago)

This last three-parter was one of the worst series of episodes I've seen. Ok, attacking our imagination is amusing for one episode, but three? I feel like they are fumbling this season. The Bono one was amusing for a one-liner gag, but beyond that was also pretty weak. It's disappointing to me because last season was one of the best they've ever done.

― Bill in Chicago, Thursday, 1 November 2007 17:52 (seventeen years ago)

"family guy isn't funny, it's all random shit and pop culture references. here, watch our three-part episode about imagination land, it's loaded with references to old commercials, 80s toys and cartoons. and al gore's a superhero. take that, family guy!"

― GOTT PUNCH II HAWKWINDZ, Thursday, 1 November 2007 19:16 (seventeen years ago)

i mean, i laughed here and there.

― GOTT PUNCH II HAWKWINDZ, Thursday, 1 November 2007 19:17 (seventeen years ago)

Ah, I liked the imaginationland saga. just seeing all those characters and having the whole suck my balls subplot. The superman dude was funny and the Christmas critters returned. The first episode, the terrorists came in and everything felt like bullet-time the way they animated it and had the sound all quiet with a heartbeat. In general the plot was very original and I'm sure there was a metaphor somewhere about Americans' imaginations running wild. I'm sure if we broke this down, we could find the metaphor and I don't think they were just ripping Al Gore. Sarah Silverman did that on the next episode. I felt bad for god, what did he do so wrong to Sarah Silverman anyways (besides the bugles and flowers being creepy)?

― CaptainLorax, Thursday, 1 November 2007 19:49 (seventeen years ago)

Yeah, the whole trilogy was worth it for the Saving Private Ryan sequence.

― Simon H., Thursday, 1 November 2007 20:16 (seventeen years ago)

butters getting screwed over and everything... I see similarities between him and me. He is a very imaginative boy, but society and family ruin his life when he probably has extraordinary talent. All that talent is wasted since the rest of the world is fucked up.

― CaptainLorax, Thursday, 1 November 2007 22:47 (seventeen years ago)

and the whole sending of a nuke to end the problems that arose out of nothing... there has got to be some metaphor to the Iraq war and the WTC. I don't know what.

― CaptainLorax, Thursday, 1 November 2007 22:50 (seventeen years ago)

these episodes just made me really irritated that I could recognize but not properly identify a minor 80s cartoon character (the little floating wizard guy in a red hat and cloak and a scarf obscuring his otherwise black face - goddammit what the hell was that thing from)

― Shakey Mo Collier, Thursday, 1 November 2007 22:52 (seventeen years ago)

wizard?

― CaptainLorax, Thursday, 1 November 2007 22:56 (seventeen years ago)

uh the first thing that came to my mind. i'm sure I m wrong.
http://comingsoon.net/nextraimages/wizards-dvd.jpg

― CaptainLorax, Thursday, 1 November 2007 22:58 (seventeen years ago)

Sounds like a He-Man character. I can't find his name but he's in the top-left of this cover:
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/5/50/He-ManShe-RaChristmas.jpg

― abanana, Thursday, 1 November 2007 23:09 (seventeen years ago)

Orko

― abanana, Thursday, 1 November 2007 23:11 (seventeen years ago)

yeah its fuckin Orko

― Shakey Mo Collier, Thursday, 1 November 2007 23:38 (seventeen years ago)

He had a D on his shirt tho, I thought it was supposed to mean he was 'Dorko' and I snickered.

I like the trilogy! I thought it was better than the movie for a movie-length type thing (well, almost). Poor Butters, conjuring up all the mangled recesses of his poor hurt self instead of Santa.

― Abbott, Friday, 2 November 2007 00:17 (seventeen years ago)

I thought it was better than the movie for a movie-length type thing (well, almost).

i would say i liked the trilogy, but better than the movie? too much padding, not enough actual plot... doesn't compare.

― GOTT PUNCH II HAWKWINDZ, Friday, 2 November 2007 04:59 (seventeen years ago)

I saw the movie like four years ago before I'd ever watched South Park and I didn't really like it.

― Abbott, Friday, 2 November 2007 05:15 (seventeen years ago)

You know, I think I hate this show. The fact that the WoW episode won an emmy blows my mind.

― Will M., Thursday, 8 November 2007 15:18 (seventeen years ago)

I laughed at last night's ep, "Heroin Hero" & all.

― kingfish, Thursday, 8 November 2007 15:25 (seventeen years ago)

http://img410.imageshack.us/img410/9790/southparkdz0.gif

probably useful for later threads

― kingfish, Wednesday, 21 November 2007 07:51 (seventeen years ago)

eleven months pass...

The election episode is a cracker. No pontificating, just inspired silliness.

― chap, Thursday, 6 November 2008 23:55 (sixteen years ago)

yeah, lol'd at this one, especially the "twist" at the end with ike

― BYE! GOOD (latebloomer), Friday, 7 November 2008 00:05 (sixteen years ago)

boy the pan flute guinea pig double episode was WOOF

― Kerm, Friday, 7 November 2008 01:07 (sixteen years ago)

i liked the Randy's I'm so startled, did you see how startled i was? cloverfield pisstake thing in those episodes.

― walter (wilter), Friday, 7 November 2008 01:11 (sixteen years ago)

Turned that one off less that 5 minutes in. South Park is one of the most uneven shows ever.

― BYE! GOOD (latebloomer), Friday, 7 November 2008 02:16 (sixteen years ago)

The election episode is a cracker. No pontificating, just inspired silliness.

oh, thank god. i was totally avoiding that one for fear of their tedious lolbertarianism.

― like burning a swan (GOTT PUNCH II HAWKWINDZ), Friday, 7 November 2008 08:58 (sixteen years ago)

I won't spoil the election episode for anyone who hasn't seen it, but the complete misdirection was a smart move and the only way such a thing would've even been half funny.

― Johnny Fever, Friday, 7 November 2008 09:30 (sixteen years ago)

I was a bit scared to watch it as well, but it turns out that it's quite kind to Obama, if anything (though not so much his more vociferous supporters).

― chap, Friday, 7 November 2008 13:20 (sixteen years ago)

I have now been compared to Randy Marsh on election night, but I swear I was not that bad (or that drunk).

― Nicolars (Nicole), Friday, 7 November 2008 13:23 (sixteen years ago)

It was pretty much completely lacking in the funny, though. But their election episodes usually are.

― Casuistry, Friday, 7 November 2008 14:04 (sixteen years ago)

I thought it was funny.

― chap, Friday, 7 November 2008 14:14 (sixteen years ago)

I liked all the Oceans 1x stuff.

― schwantz, Friday, 7 November 2008 16:51 (sixteen years ago)

I liked it. I liked that it seemed how they wanted to do a relatively straight bank heist story, intercut it with drunken idiocy to keep the lolz rolling, then tie both plotlines in together.

― obama cyber leader (kingfish), Friday, 7 November 2008 17:00 (sixteen years ago)

"though not so much his more vociferous supporters"

Nor McCain's to be fair.

― Alex in SF, Friday, 7 November 2008 17:04 (sixteen years ago)

that two-parter pan flute Cloverfield think was so wtf - I fell asleep waiting for the punchline (was there one?)

― Shakey Mo Collier, Friday, 7 November 2008 17:18 (sixteen years ago)

No!

I thought it was pretty flipping AWESOME but then again: guinea pigs.

― rubisco (Abbott), Friday, 7 November 2008 17:21 (sixteen years ago)

I've never really been sure what a libertarian is. I'm not that bothered to find out.

My favourite South Park episode is the Lord of the Rings one, where they are returning the porno.

― Autobot Lover (jel --), Friday, 7 November 2008 17:52 (sixteen years ago)

The Guineasaurus Rex was kind of a punchline.

― chap, Friday, 7 November 2008 17:57 (sixteen years ago)

yeah but it went on and on.

did not really dig the guinea pigs sorry.

the election episode was brilliant.
Was worried the Ike crying thing was going to be lolbertarian angle, but it wasnt thankfully.

― ▧_▨ (wilter), Monday, 10 November 2008 02:57 (sixteen years ago)

watching election episode now so awesome

― and what, Monday, 10 November 2008 17:08 (sixteen years ago)

The gineau pig/Cloverleaf thing was great! "I'm so STARTLED!"

― Black Seinfeld (HI DERE), Monday, 10 November 2008 17:10 (sixteen years ago)

four months pass...

Ha.

― kingfish, Thursday, 12 March 2009 05:20 (sixteen years ago)

BAY-BAYY

― VegemiteGrrrl, Thursday, 12 March 2009 05:51 (sixteen years ago)

three weeks pass...

Butters freaking out = always funny

― kingfish, Thursday, 2 April 2009 05:08 (sixteen years ago)

^^^^ I laughed my ass off last week when he freaked out. i love butters!!!! this show is still hilarious and genius imo

― crab ringgoon (surfboard dudes get wiped out, totally), Tuesday, 7 April 2009 20:55 (sixteen years ago)

Butters is easily my favorite character on the show.

― maybe u should tell that to your laughing vagina (HI DERE), Tuesday, 7 April 2009 20:59 (sixteen years ago)

perhaps I should stop posting to this thread since all I seem to have to say about SP anymore is how great Butters is

― maybe u should tell that to your laughing vagina (HI DERE), Tuesday, 7 April 2009 21:15 (sixteen years ago)

one month passes...

Does anyone else find this show kind of soulless and cruel? Maybe it was just the episode I watched, but there was like a 10-minute sequence where kenny threw a ninja star into a kid's eye and then to avoid getting caught they decide to disguise him as a dog to take him to the veteranarian, then they wind up stuffing him in an oven, etc. I mean I know it's all exaggerated and absurd, but I found something sadistic in the way the show just lingered on all of this so much, not to mention that it just wasn't funny. Maybe it's just that getting older thing.

― Garri$on Kilo (Hurting 2), Thursday, 14 May 2009 03:47 (sixteen years ago)

"a kid"?? butters isn't just "a kid"

― lolsdale street (electricsound), Thursday, 14 May 2009 03:52 (sixteen years ago)

south park is terrible

― macaulay culkin's bukkake shocker (bug), Thursday, 14 May 2009 03:52 (sixteen years ago)

i love this show

― ❉❉❉❉❉❉❉❉Plaxico❉❉❉❉❉❉❉❉❉ (I know, right?), Thursday, 14 May 2009 05:51 (sixteen years ago)

Sometimes I'm just not in the mood for whatever crusade Matt and Trey are on.

i love this show

― ❉❉❉❉❉❉❉❉Plaxico❉❉❉❉❉❉❉❉❉ (I know, right?), Thursday, May 14, 2009 5:51 PM (18 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

But most of the time, ^^^

― SQUIRREL WITH A PEOPLE FACE (╓abies), Thursday, 14 May 2009 06:15 (sixteen years ago)

i'm torn. the libertarian stuff does not appeal to me, but the show is still capable of being really fucking funny.

― MRSA Marchant (get bent), Thursday, 14 May 2009 06:22 (sixteen years ago)

the part tonight about trying to return the "margaritaville" to sur la table was funny, but they had to beat the joke/metaphor into the ground.

― MRSA Marchant (get bent), Thursday, 14 May 2009 06:27 (sixteen years ago)

Does anyone else find this show kind of soulless and cruel?

Cruel? Sure. Misguided? Sometimes. Soulless? Never.

― my features are so intense (kenan), Thursday, 14 May 2009 06:40 (sixteen years ago)

on the one hand, corporations are corrupt, immoral and exploitative

on the other, people who drive priuses seem really smug

THE TRUTH, IT LIES SOMEWHERE IN THE MIDDLE

― macaulay culkin's bukkake shocker (bug), Thursday, 14 May 2009 07:59 (sixteen years ago)

prius drivers / politicized hollywood celebrities might be hella smug about their political beliefs, but they're uh...about exactly as smug as the guys making the show.

― iatee, Thursday, 14 May 2009 08:13 (sixteen years ago)

Maybe it was just the episode I watched, but there was like a 10-minute sequence where kenny threw a ninja star into a kid's eye and then to avoid getting caught they decide to disguise him as a dog to take him to the veteranarian, then they wind up stuffing him in an oven, etc.

kind of agree with this, it was a weirdly wrong-feeling part in an otherwise good episode.

― GÖTT DAT SCHING (GOTT PUNCH II HAWKWINDZ), Thursday, 14 May 2009 09:41 (sixteen years ago)

south park episodes vary in quality, to be sure, but as long as they occasionally pop up with a gem like the Britney episode, and other times divert us with the peruvian pan flute 2-parter, I'll watch it.

― The Devil's Avocado (Gukbe), Thursday, 14 May 2009 09:52 (sixteen years ago)

I think anyone who writes an episode of their show where they poo out of their mouths knows that they are smug bastards who only talk shit.

― Call out (a hoy hoy), Thursday, 14 May 2009 11:12 (sixteen years ago)

SP called itself out as being "preachy" in the cartoon wars episode, but I think stopped short of admitting that they might actually be wrong about stuff

― EMPIRE STATE HYMEN (MPx4A), Thursday, 14 May 2009 11:15 (sixteen years ago)

the "oh ho this is actually topical!" reveal in the Butters/weapons episode was fairly right-on though

― EMPIRE STATE HYMEN (MPx4A), Thursday, 14 May 2009 11:17 (sixteen years ago)

five months pass...

It was an easy joke, but I still laughed everytime Butters starting tossing around 'motherfucker'

― kingfish, Thursday, 15 October 2009 07:12 (fifteen years ago)

i don't even need to see that to find it hilarious

― get up and use(rna)me (electricsound), Thursday, 15 October 2009 08:26 (fifteen years ago)

butters is one of the all time greatest characters y/n

― get up and use(rna)me (electricsound), Thursday, 15 October 2009 08:26 (fifteen years ago)

of any show i mean

― get up and use(rna)me (electricsound), Thursday, 15 October 2009 08:26 (fifteen years ago)

― Samuel (a hoy hoy), Thursday, 15 October 2009 08:27 (fifteen years ago)

obv

― Music should never have changed anymore after my mid 80s (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 15 October 2009 08:34 (fifteen years ago)

'you know what i am saying' also cheap but hilar

― wilter, Thursday, 15 October 2009 08:36 (fifteen years ago)

Why do C4 broadcast unfunny Simpsons eps over this?

― xyzzzz__, Thursday, 15 October 2009 09:25 (fifteen years ago)

South Park probably not a winner with Ofcom at 6 in the evening.

― Music should never have changed anymore after my mid 80s (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 15 October 2009 09:26 (fifteen years ago)

Yeah they used to broadcast it at night, but its a strange decision not to broadcast this at all. Really dislike any of the other cartoons on offer (Family Guy or what have you)

― xyzzzz__, Thursday, 15 October 2009 09:28 (fifteen years ago)

Family Guy is much more consistently fun, or less intermittently annoying, than South Park.

Really the answer to any query about Channel 4 scheduling is "because Channel 4 is fucking terrible".

― Music should never have changed anymore after my mid 80s (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 15 October 2009 09:31 (fifteen years ago)

cheap but hilarious is otm. applies to practically every thing Butters says

not really.. clever... but a lot more fun than last week's obviously-trying-too-hard "i see dead celebrities" crap

― Nhex, Thursday, 15 October 2009 09:56 (fifteen years ago)

Butters is seriously amazing and I don't think South Park would have survived for as along as it has without him.

― RETARTED (HI DERE), Thursday, 15 October 2009 13:56 (fifteen years ago)

"Family Guy is much more consistently fun, or less intermittently annoying, than South Park"

This is crazy talk...South Park rarely misses the mark. Maybe its a British/American difference of humour/humor...but I think South Park has, if anything, become better over the years. Last seasons election/Ocean's 11 parody? The High School Musical parody? Twilight? All genius. They push the vulgarity limit, but always with tongue firmly in cheek. Family Guy, while "fun", will always be a sub-par South Park/Simpsons rip-off, that tries to push the limit to annoying ends...

― Space Is The Place, Thursday, 15 October 2009 14:17 (fifteen years ago)

Nothing to do with US/UK differences, I think a lot of people agree that 90 percent of the satirical or parody eps of South Park are like being shouted at by a couple of Ron Paulites for 20 minutes except less lol

― Music should never have changed anymore after my mid 80s (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 15 October 2009 14:21 (fifteen years ago)

Not that critical reviews are necessarily a good signifier, but I have never seen a review of South Park that called it less than brilliant.

― Space Is The Place, Thursday, 15 October 2009 14:27 (fifteen years ago)

Results 1 - 10 of about 20,400 for "south park is shit". (0.18 seconds)

― Music should never have changed anymore after my mid 80s (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 15 October 2009 14:28 (fifteen years ago)

Don't get me wrong, there are eps that I really love and as was said upthread Butters is just one of the greatest TV characters of all time but the quality control has been all over the place from way back.

― Music should never have changed anymore after my mid 80s (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 15 October 2009 14:29 (fifteen years ago)

"Canadian Christmas *IT'S THE BEST!* We drink and dance and show our breasts.

― dog latin, Thursday, 15 October 2009 14:44 (fifteen years ago)

Noodle, 20,350 of those results said "south park is shit your pants hilarious".

― hope this helps (Granny Dainger), Thursday, 15 October 2009 14:50 (fifteen years ago)

ha ha - i have to side with Space Place on this one. SP > FG
and while i love Butters i think the character that gets the least amount of credit for making SP awesome is Randy.

― The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall, Thursday, 15 October 2009 14:58 (fifteen years ago)

hey look i love randy as much as the next guy but he's moe to butters' homer

― get up and use(rna)me (electricsound), Thursday, 15 October 2009 15:00 (fifteen years ago)

i have no idea what i meant by that btw i'm pissed out of my head

― get up and use(rna)me (electricsound), Thursday, 15 October 2009 15:01 (fifteen years ago)

Randy gets kinda over-used nowadays, don't think he can top that Softball episode.

― Music should never have changed anymore after my mid 80s (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 15 October 2009 15:01 (fifteen years ago)

i don't think i've seen that one?

― The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall, Thursday, 15 October 2009 15:04 (fifteen years ago)

Baseball, sorry. The Little League one.

― Music should never have changed anymore after my mid 80s (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 15 October 2009 15:05 (fifteen years ago)

You know who else is quietly awesome? Craig!

― RETARTED (HI DERE), Thursday, 15 October 2009 15:44 (fifteen years ago)

cregg

― get up and use(rna)me (electricsound), Thursday, 15 October 2009 15:46 (fifteen years ago)

also: Clyde!

― RETARTED (HI DERE), Thursday, 15 October 2009 15:48 (fifteen years ago)

for any big fans: there was a 2-part interview with Matt Stone on Bill Simmon's "B.S. Report" podcast a few weeks back that was fairly interesting.

― hope this helps (Granny Dainger), Thursday, 15 October 2009 15:49 (fifteen years ago)

the first 2 episodes of this season have been pretty awful imo - weird that they (unless i am misremembering) spent the whole players ball directly quoting "American Pimp". I mean, unless a lot more people saw that documentary than I think, whats the point?

― i am a true waht? i am a true stfu-schnick (jjjusten), Thursday, 15 October 2009 16:06 (fifteen years ago)

I was a little "O RLY?" at the police chief in this week's episode

― RETARTED (HI DERE), Thursday, 15 October 2009 16:07 (fifteen years ago)

I also think it helps to remember that South Park is primarily written to make Trey and Matt laugh, so any enjoyment on the part of the viewer is kind of incidental to the process. It doesn't matter how many people have seen "American Pimp" because obv Trey and/or Matt did and thought sticking Butters in the middle of it was funny.

The ACORN gag did make me chuckle but most of the lols I had came from uncritical "YAY BUTTERS" reactions.

― RETARTED (HI DERE), Thursday, 15 October 2009 16:10 (fifteen years ago)

AMAZING ep!!!!

― Whay!ney G. Welldamnen (surfboard dudes get wiped out, totally), Thursday, 15 October 2009 17:36 (fifteen years ago)

Do you know what I am saying?

― Whay!ney G. Welldamnen (surfboard dudes get wiped out, totally), Thursday, 15 October 2009 17:37 (fifteen years ago)

i knew after the car scene with the cop that they were obviously gonna keep escalating that joke and I couldn't think of what they would do next but yeah it got better

― Whay!ney G. Welldamnen (surfboard dudes get wiped out, totally), Thursday, 15 October 2009 17:39 (fifteen years ago)

Have we seen Officer Barbrady in recent years, or did they stop using him once they figured out it would be more fun to do cop genre stuff by having a full-on SP Police Dept?

― kingfish, Thursday, 15 October 2009 17:51 (fifteen years ago)

and the full ep is already online: http://www.southparkstudios.com/guide/1309/

― kingfish, Thursday, 15 October 2009 17:55 (fifteen years ago)

Barbrady was always a weak link IMO.

― chap, Thursday, 15 October 2009 18:54 (fifteen years ago)

yeah i agree not funny.

this cop is always hilarious

― Whay!ney G. Welldamnen (surfboard dudes get wiped out, totally), Thursday, 15 October 2009 20:25 (fifteen years ago)

speaking of barbrady, I still <3 the chicken fucker episode from season 1 (2?) - but in retrospect it's surprising that they're not big ayn rand fans themselves

― iatee, Thursday, 15 October 2009 20:29 (fifteen years ago)

The more Butters the better. The show a couple of seasons ago where Cartman sucks his dick while he's asleep to prove Butters is gay is maybe my favourite of the recent years. Best recent Randy is maybe the balsa wood/alien invasion ep? Or the Great Depression/internet porn one?

― I thought I could make it work because you look a bit like a man (aldo), Friday, 16 October 2009 13:32 (fifteen years ago)

randy also classic in the bono poo ep

― wilter, Friday, 16 October 2009 13:55 (fifteen years ago)

randy goat is the alcoholic/virgin mother episode

― Des Leppilen (darraghmac), Friday, 16 October 2009 14:01 (fifteen years ago)

jeez i just typed randy goat, wtf

― Des Leppilen (darraghmac), Friday, 16 October 2009 14:01 (fifteen years ago)

Best Randy bit is him getting into a stringent dad-fighting regime in The Losing Edge, getting up at 6am, cracking an egg yolk into a pint glass and then pouring it into a frying pan and opening a beer. Also his crap jump for joy as the Joe Esposito song kicks in at the end.

― MPx4A, Friday, 16 October 2009 14:05 (fifteen years ago)

http://www.pocomoketattler.com/Pics/nagger.jpg

― Samuel (a hoy hoy), Friday, 16 October 2009 14:07 (fifteen years ago)

yeah nobody wants to touch that one imo, surefire thredkilla

― Des Leppilen (darraghmac), Saturday, 17 October 2009 23:15 (fifteen years ago)

Yeah, I know what you are saying.

― Jacob Sanders, Sunday, 18 October 2009 09:45 (fifteen years ago)

the first 2 episodes of this season have been pretty awful imo

I couldn't disagree with you more..

There's hardly any "limit pushing" in Family Guy. Their perception of what makes a joke is essentially the same as Robot Chicken, which is "pop culture reference = joke." South Park is full of actual crafted jokes. That's the main difference.

― billstevejim, Sunday, 18 October 2009 18:18 (fifteen years ago)

Also I had no idea the last episode contained movie references, and I thought it was lolz x 1000!

― billstevejim, Sunday, 18 October 2009 18:19 (fifteen years ago)

i think they pull lot from pimps up, hos down in this ep, esp the "you know what i'm sayin'" stuff.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7q8zcdjvshQ

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZKRsYMH4pPI

― slugbuggy, Monday, 19 October 2009 23:14 (fifteen years ago)

slightly NSFW due to actual language inserted between all the "you know what i'm sayin'" sayin'.

― slugbuggy, Monday, 19 October 2009 23:17 (fifteen years ago)

I just watched the Jonas Brothers episode – it is amazing how shocking it is seeing Mickey swear. I was way surprised Disney hasn't taken this to the supreme court.

― existential eggs (Abbott), Monday, 19 October 2009 23:30 (fifteen years ago)

"South Park is full of actual crafted jokes."

I'll grant you South Park is more concerned with plotting and having a "point," but the jokes themselves have never strayed far from "character reacts in some ludicrous and/or filthy way to pop cultural event/icon" or re-enacting some bits of pop culture as homage. Have they upped their jokesmanship recently?

― Philip Nunez, Tuesday, 20 October 2009 00:29 (fifteen years ago)

Man this week's was a totally dumb, pointless episode.

― hope this helps (Granny Dainger), Thursday, 22 October 2009 19:31 (fifteen years ago)

I hadn't watched a new south park episode in a long time, but I liked it. any non-libertarian sp episode is generally pretty funny, but I stopped watching because there have been fewer and fewer of those.

― iatee, Thursday, 22 October 2009 19:40 (fifteen years ago)

oh south park, you and your lazy racism

― Nhex, Thursday, 29 October 2009 16:35 (fifteen years ago)

hey sp dudes, devoting 2 of your 3 new episodes to skewering other cable shows is LAZY

― PHEAR MY POORAPULT (jjjusten), Thursday, 29 October 2009 16:38 (fifteen years ago)

seriously - i'd never even heard of Whale Wars before last night

― Nhex, Thursday, 29 October 2009 16:39 (fifteen years ago)

stopped watching the latest episode after 5 minutes. their "topical" episodes are the worst and I don't really enjoy their asian racism schtick or their "liberals are asshats" schtick

― Jesus, the Czar of Czars (Shakey Mo Collier), Thursday, 29 October 2009 16:52 (fifteen years ago)

seriously where is their balloon boy episode, that one just writes itself (Randy builds balloon, Butters sneaks into it, balloon flies away hilarity ensues)

― Jesus, the Czar of Czars (Shakey Mo Collier), Thursday, 29 October 2009 16:53 (fifteen years ago)

I used to watch it with Amber back in the day. She was 8 months, and loved the kids antics, and didn't understand the sweary bits. And mum was on nightshift...

Anyways, the kids got older and I saw one ep that was damn brilliant (it involved bath-houses and cute kids that had their own TV shows, etc), and realised "we" couln't watch this anymore.

I kinda sensed it would be downhill after that one anyway.

― Mark G, Thursday, 29 October 2009 17:24 (fifteen years ago)

not that i didn't agree with the target, but c'mon, Beck is so EZ. actually for SP this is kind of late to the game considering the other Beck parodies going around lately

avatar joke was pretty good, i gotta admit, though

― Nhex, Thursday, 12 November 2009 06:17 (fifteen years ago)

Right around when I saw "Butters Bottom Bitch" I started getting the feeling that this current run of episodes was written and produced over the summer, instead of the "one episode produced per week" thing, which is why current events (ie balloon boy) haven't been lampooned, and why wider topics are being discussed instead.

― billstevejim, Thursday, 12 November 2009 14:16 (fifteen years ago)

discussed?

― The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall, Thursday, 12 November 2009 14:29 (fifteen years ago)

lampooned

― billstevejim, Thursday, 12 November 2009 14:46 (fifteen years ago)

I didn't expect last night's episode to be up and streaming already.. I guess they put them on the south park studios website on the following morning.

But yeah, how do they know Avatar is a ripoff of Dances With Wolves? It doesn't come out for another month.

― billstevejim, Thursday, 12 November 2009 14:50 (fifteen years ago)

rather apparent from the trailer tbh

― fel (latebloomer), Thursday, 12 November 2009 15:28 (fifteen years ago)

beck is an easy target, but such a natural for cartman. and i liked that beck fans = butters.

― hellzapoppa (tipsy mothra), Thursday, 12 November 2009 16:52 (fifteen years ago)

one month passes...

it's ok

― S.E., we runnin' this FAP shit (roxymuzak), Saturday, 26 December 2009 22:15 (fifteen years ago)

Pi Pi was cracking me up.

― kelis navidad (Whiney G. Weingarten), Saturday, 26 December 2009 23:00 (fifteen years ago)

it is cringeworthy sometimes

it helps to be stoned iirc

― S.E., we runnin' this FAP shit (roxymuzak), Sunday, 27 December 2009 00:16 (fifteen years ago)

take away the cartman bits and it's pretty unwatchable imo

― you want a war on christmas i'll give you a fuckin war on christmas (will), Sunday, 27 December 2009 00:42 (fifteen years ago)

three months pass...

Does anyone know the name of the song playing when Randy and the guys with swollen balls are bouncing around town?

It's fucking amazing.

― billstevejim, Monday, 5 April 2010 16:49 (fifteen years ago)

Found it!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jfRI_ITSsWo

― billstevejim, Monday, 5 April 2010 17:10 (fifteen years ago)

LMFAO

― choom raider (Whiney G. Weingarten), Monday, 5 April 2010 17:23 (fifteen years ago)

last two episodes have been on some classic dumb-out shit that i'm totally loving. dudes even skipped the opportunity to wahhh libertarian whine about KFC and just made a dumb goofy episode about it.

― choom raider (Whiney G. Weingarten), Monday, 5 April 2010 17:25 (fifteen years ago)

libertarians are against KFC?

― kulinary gangsta (Shakey Mo Collier), Monday, 5 April 2010 17:29 (fifteen years ago)

libertarians would be against the idea that there should be a law that keeps KFCs from opening in low-income areas

― choom raider (Whiney G. Weingarten), Monday, 5 April 2010 17:33 (fifteen years ago)

episode really made me want some kfc tbh

― choom raider (Whiney G. Weingarten), Monday, 5 April 2010 17:34 (fifteen years ago)

would give kinda an unfair advantage to Popeye's wouldn't it

― kulinary gangsta (Shakey Mo Collier), Monday, 5 April 2010 17:35 (fifteen years ago)

I do like that they deliberately went with one of their weirder episodes. I get the feeling that they brought back officer barbrady & jimbo & ned just for the early-seasons vibe.

― requiem for crunk (kingfish), Monday, 5 April 2010 19:25 (fifteen years ago)

HA.

― WTF cat with unfitting music (kingfish), Thursday, 8 April 2010 05:48 (fifteen years ago)

I hate Facebook probably more than most, but this was a little weak and incredibly late for them. the Chatroulette thing was kind of obvious too... and the Tron thing, Family Guy's 10-second bit on it was probably funnier.

though this was funny from an interview tho:

I asked the men which celebrity had the craziest reaction out of any they mocked.
"Well the craziest was probably Kanye last year. We thought we would be more like 'Holy shit should I get a body guard? Should I get a gun?' and instead the next day he wrote in all caps 'YEAH YOU GUYS ARE RIGHT. I'M SORRY,'" Matt said in wonder.
"We were like 'Dude, what?' and for the first time it made us feel bad. If Sean Penn is like, 'Hey what do they think they're doing,'" Trey said in a voice halfway between Cartman and Penn, "We're just like, 'Hey dude, fuck you.' But for someone to actually say, 'Yeah it really hurt my feelings and I really should look at myself,' it's kind of like punching the kid and then he just sits there and cries."

― Nhex, Thursday, 8 April 2010 06:38 (fifteen years ago)

that song is fucking awesome

― wilter, Friday, 9 April 2010 07:51 (fifteen years ago)

hmm

― wilter, Friday, 9 April 2010 09:55 (fifteen years ago)

Facebook episode is like "why i'm not on facebook 101." I kind of loved it.

― fuckin' raggett... how does that work? (Whiney G. Weingarten), Friday, 9 April 2010 13:13 (fifteen years ago)

did you like the tron bits?

― wilter, Friday, 9 April 2010 13:14 (fifteen years ago)

i liked about 50% of the Tron bits, esp the Yahtzee parts

― fuckin' raggett... how does that work? (Whiney G. Weingarten), Friday, 9 April 2010 13:15 (fifteen years ago)

arent you famous for twittering

― billion holla baby (roxymuzak), Thursday, 22 April 2010 23:01 (fifteen years ago)

Facebook episode is like "why i'm not on facebook 101."

yeah my wife and I were totally feelin this too tbh

Tron jokes are always funny.

Except for when they're on Family Guy, which is never funny, ever.

― the first circus ringleader in space (Shakey Mo Collier), Thursday, 22 April 2010 23:05 (fifteen years ago)

"release the Kiken"?

Yeesh.

― MPx4A, Monday, 3 May 2010 18:11 (fifteen years ago)

yeaaaaaah, they've got problems

― Nhex, Monday, 3 May 2010 18:48 (fifteen years ago)

this has been a good series

― plax (ico), Monday, 3 May 2010 19:02 (fifteen years ago)

two weeks pass...

this whole recent thing about the image of Muhammad got me thinking - if there's no images of him, no one knows what he really looked like, there's no conventional historical archetype of what Muhammad looked like. so, basically there's no way to tell what is or isn't an image of Muhammad unless it's explicitly captioned as such. So, if I draw a picture of a tomato and call it the Prophet Muhammad, is that a violation of the Koran?

― Here is a tasty coconut. Sorry for my earlier harshness. (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 19 May 2010 18:46 (fifteen years ago)

yes

― Have a slice of wine! (HI DERE), Wednesday, 19 May 2010 18:47 (fifteen years ago)

so nonsensical

― Here is a tasty coconut. Sorry for my earlier harshness. (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 19 May 2010 18:47 (fifteen years ago)

iirc there is a koran verse that deals with this issue, let me look for it

― iatee, Wednesday, 19 May 2010 18:50 (fifteen years ago)

yeah here it is:

K 3:140 If a wound has afflicted you (at [the Battle of] Uhud), a wound like it has also afflicted the (unbelieving) people; and We bring these days to men by turns, and that Allah may know those who believe and take witnesses from among you...PS Muhammad is not a tomato

― iatee, Wednesday, 19 May 2010 18:51 (fifteen years ago)

whew problem solved

― Here is a tasty coconut. Sorry for my earlier harshness. (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 19 May 2010 18:51 (fifteen years ago)

iirc there's a bit in the koran were it describes mohammed, it says: "He was big and strong, in his eyes a flaming glow."

― Times New Excels At (jim in glasgow), Wednesday, 19 May 2010 18:52 (fifteen years ago)

sounds like a tomato to me

― Have a slice of wine! (HI DERE), Wednesday, 19 May 2010 18:53 (fifteen years ago)

lol GIS returns:

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/70/163786861_1d223efb7f_m.jpg

― Here is a tasty coconut. Sorry for my earlier harshness. (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 19 May 2010 18:58 (fifteen years ago)

http://www.comicbox.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/06/tomato.jpg

― (latebloomer) (latebloomer), Wednesday, 19 May 2010 19:01 (fifteen years ago)

wtf is obama doing in a picture w/ mohammed

― iatee, Wednesday, 19 May 2010 19:02 (fifteen years ago)

scuba diving

― Here is a tasty coconut. Sorry for my earlier harshness. (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 19 May 2010 19:03 (fifteen years ago)

eleven months pass...

OH NO! CUTTLEFISH IS ABOUT TO COME OUT OF MY ASSHOLE!

― bananas foster wallace (Whiney G. Weingarten), Wednesday, 4 May 2011 04:08 (fourteen years ago)

Hahaah that was so great! And gross! And great!

Loved Cartman too: "Can I at least borrow some of your lipstick, Mom? I at least want to look pretty the next time you FUCK ME"

― VegemiteGrrl, Wednesday, 4 May 2011 04:37 (fourteen years ago)

i think it's total lunacy that every episode is on their official site

― bananas foster wallace (Whiney G. Weingarten), Wednesday, 4 May 2011 04:40 (fourteen years ago)

ever meet like a nine or ten year old kid that loves South Park? I sometimes wonder how a nine or ten year old me would deal with Randy Marsh projectile jizzing all over the computer room

― bananas foster wallace (Whiney G. Weingarten), Wednesday, 4 May 2011 04:42 (fourteen years ago)

My niece (just turned 14) has been watching it for years...she made a knowing shake weight reference a few months back and it weirded me right out.

― VegemiteGrrl, Wednesday, 4 May 2011 04:48 (fourteen years ago)

wasn't the whole cartman thing ripped off snl? felt kinda lame

― You Get Hoynes (bnw), Wednesday, 4 May 2011 04:49 (fourteen years ago)

snl didn't invent that turn of phrase, but have def been goin to town with it

― bananas foster wallace (Whiney G. Weingarten), Wednesday, 4 May 2011 05:02 (fourteen years ago)

so tired of their dumb racist asian schtick

― no slouch of a snipster (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 4 May 2011 05:34 (fourteen years ago)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yd0MbjZpTVg

― bananas foster wallace (Whiney G. Weingarten), Wednesday, 4 May 2011 20:05 (fourteen years ago)

if you guys need me, i'll be watching that all day

― bananas foster wallace (Whiney G. Weingarten), Wednesday, 4 May 2011 20:06 (fourteen years ago)

Hahaah that was so great! And gross! And great!Loved Cartman too: "Can I at least borrow some of your lipstick, Mom? I at least want to look pretty the next time you FUCK ME"― VegemiteGrr

I posted a clip of that on an ilx ipad thread and someone said that it wasn't funny. Maybe I should of posted it in an Apple is Overrated thread :P

― but I want a bongo drum (CaptainLorax), Wednesday, 4 May 2011 23:49 (fourteen years ago)

Oh man, tonight...

― Crazed Mister Handy (kingfish), Thursday, 12 May 2011 04:32 (fourteen years ago)

good or bad?

― rent, Thursday, 12 May 2011 04:54 (fourteen years ago)

"the little mushroom people of Nova Scotia" nearly caused some physical injuries here

― Kim, Thursday, 12 May 2011 11:00 (fourteen years ago)

I just watched the season 14 episode where the boys write a novel. Insanely funny.

― Inevitable stupid samba mix (chap), Friday, 13 May 2011 22:02 (fourteen years ago)

xpost omg I died

― Janet Snakehole (VegemiteGrrl), Friday, 13 May 2011 22:13 (fourteen years ago)

Good episode to watch with a Canadian

"this show is so fucking stupid I don't know why you even EDMONTON THEY SAID EDMONTON YAYYYYY"

― MPx4A, Friday, 13 May 2011 23:42 (fourteen years ago)

Just for the continued scenes of Mackey's breakdown and increasingly profane berating of the kids...

― Crazed Mister Handy (kingfish), Saturday, 14 May 2011 02:02 (fourteen years ago)

"the little mushroom people of Nova Scotia" nearly caused some physical injuries here

yes

― rent, Saturday, 14 May 2011 02:09 (fourteen years ago)

car w square wheels hilarity never fails

― Janet Snakehole (VegemiteGrrl), Saturday, 14 May 2011 02:13 (fourteen years ago)

http://homepage.mac.com/iahklu/mushroom.png

― rent, Saturday, 14 May 2011 05:04 (fourteen years ago)

hee hee hee

― Janet Snakehole (VegemiteGrrl), Saturday, 14 May 2011 05:06 (fourteen years ago)

holy shit.

― got electrolytes (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Saturday, 14 May 2011 06:11 (fourteen years ago)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cs03JDUXyuY

― Ned Raggett, Saturday, 14 May 2011 06:36 (fourteen years ago)

two weeks pass...

...the fuck?

― MPx4A, Thursday, 2 June 2011 23:15 (fourteen years ago)

the tiny mushroom people of newfoundland!

― Janet Snakehole (VegemiteGrrl), Thursday, 2 June 2011 23:17 (fourteen years ago)

oh yeah, I meant the multiple personality disorder/chinese racism episode

― MPx4A, Thursday, 2 June 2011 23:19 (fourteen years ago)

nova scotia, I meant. Newfoundland? lol

― Janet Snakehole (VegemiteGrrl), Thursday, 2 June 2011 23:43 (fourteen years ago)

The whole time I was watching tonight I was bouncing between "Wow this is the most scatological episode of South Park, that is really saying something" and "This is one of the better running metaphor episodes they've ever done" and then the ending kinda came out of nowhere. It was kinda great.

― C-L, Thursday, 9 June 2011 02:39 (fourteen years ago)

Yeah this was maybe the best episode of South Park I've seen in years.

― low-rent black gangster nicknamed Bootsy (DJP), Thursday, 9 June 2011 02:53 (fourteen years ago)

I haven't been following this season but I did watch this - pretty amazing. I actually found the image of Stan looking up at that big, shitty sun kind of profound. (Also, laughed uncontrollably at the shitty trailers.) Have to wonder if this season's the last.

― Simon H. Shit (Simon H.), Thursday, 9 June 2011 03:45 (fourteen years ago)

Now I feel like posting a "do you relate deeply to Stan from South Park" poll, because that episode is exactly like what I was recently posting about (old friends ditching my cynical ass) on the innocuous things thread. Poor Stan. What will happen to him now?!

― Kim, Thursday, 9 June 2011 11:48 (fourteen years ago)

episode got so unexpectedly heavy!

― LL Coolna (absolutely clean glasses), Thursday, 9 June 2011 12:26 (fourteen years ago)

Have to wonder if this season's the last.

Apparently Comedy Central convinced Matt and Trey to sign for another two seasons, which really surprised me after the way CC mishandled "200"/"201". And this episode, especially the ending, felt like they're targeting some sort of downer "And then they grew up" ending.

― Ivana Boob-Reduction (j.lu), Thursday, 9 June 2011 13:19 (fourteen years ago)

I lol'd at the Custer's Revenge arcade machine in the one scene

― dell (del), Sunday, 12 June 2011 15:09 (fourteen years ago)

goddammit I actually teared up towards the end

― Janet Snakehole (VegemiteGrrl), Sunday, 12 June 2011 17:32 (fourteen years ago)

That has to be my favorite South Park, at first I was laughing so hard my side ached and then the ending completely took me off guard. I hope the rest of the season keeps this up.

― JacobSanders, Sunday, 12 June 2011 18:21 (fourteen years ago)

Rated "ARG" for pirates — FUCK YOU!!!!!!!!

― corey, Sunday, 12 June 2011 18:32 (fourteen years ago)

if this had had a little more content and a little less shit it would be one of my favorite episodes

one scary thing is that "jack and jill" is a real movie

― adam aquaman (abanana), Sunday, 12 June 2011 18:48 (fourteen years ago)

two weeks pass...

Fee fi fo fum, I smell Kraft Dinner!

― Crazed Mister Handy (kingfish), Thursday, 30 June 2011 02:19 (fourteen years ago)

three months pass...

Seriously. Wow. Maybe the most fucked 20 minutes of television I've seen in years, maybe ever.

― 50,000 raspberries with the face of Peter Ndlovu (aldo), Friday, 7 October 2011 20:59 (fourteen years ago)

there's been like 20 south parks that were more fucked than that!

― Whiney G. Weingarten, Friday, 7 October 2011 21:01 (fourteen years ago)

Did you just watch Scott Tennorman Must Die on syndication or something?

― Whiney G. Weingarten, Friday, 7 October 2011 21:01 (fourteen years ago)

Really? You seriously think moving from "you think the whole world is shit" at the end of the last series moving into overly produced sound where the minor thing such as background fans are unnaturally loud and drown out reality (like clinical depressives hear) into enforced 'medication' concluding that drinking out life so you can pretend to be normal isn't unbelievably fucked and bleak?

The sequence when Randy & Sharon get back together for the sake of the kids, just after Stan has had his breakthrough, to then see him actually hear the radio as 'we' hear it and then have to take a further drink before joining his friends is absolutely heartbreaking.

― 50,000 raspberries with the face of Peter Ndlovu (aldo), Friday, 7 October 2011 21:21 (fourteen years ago)

well, yeah, it was pretty sad and bleak but i wouldn't call it "fucked"

http://blog.modernmechanix.com/mags/qf/c/Signature/10-1968/med_thats_life.jpg

― Whiney G. Weingarten, Friday, 7 October 2011 21:23 (fourteen years ago)

If you'd identified with Stan as a child growing up with South Park, broadcasting that your best way to deal with the rest of your life is to spend it in an alcoholic stupor is pretty fucked, dude.

― 50,000 raspberries with the face of Peter Ndlovu (aldo), Friday, 7 October 2011 21:35 (fourteen years ago)

I did enjoy that the wonder/gateway drug was just Jameson's.

And Kyle once again refusing to be caught up in an epic battle.

― Primm Slim, Robot Sheriff (kingfish), Friday, 7 October 2011 21:40 (fourteen years ago)

I loved the Drunk Stan/Kyle discussion outside the burger stand.

― 50,000 raspberries with the face of Peter Ndlovu (aldo), Friday, 7 October 2011 21:42 (fourteen years ago)

I am conflicted by my enjoyment of this ep...but it *was* kinda great. Fucked up, but great.

― Janet Snakehole (VegemiteGrrl), Friday, 7 October 2011 21:48 (fourteen years ago)

"I love you"
"Fuck you"

― Janet Snakehole (VegemiteGrrl), Friday, 7 October 2011 21:48 (fourteen years ago)

three weeks pass...

Has someone put some of the songs together in a compilation? having Cartman's Make it Right in my head for the past week.

― xyzzzz__, Saturday, 29 October 2011 22:37 (thirteen years ago)

four months pass...

this season's actually been pretty good so far

― Estimate the percent chance that a whale has ever been to the moon? (frogbs), Friday, 23 March 2012 13:29 (thirteen years ago)

Yeah, I related to that last episode pretty hardcore. My grandma sits around watching that jewelry channel all day. At least she hasn't bought any $6,000 bolo ties. That I'm aware of.

"Hi. Um...kill yourself?"

― Henry David Thorough (Deric W. Haircare), Friday, 23 March 2012 13:36 (thirteen years ago)

yeah last 2 eps have been pretty good

― Peppermint Patty Hearst (VegemiteGrrl), Friday, 23 March 2012 15:35 (thirteen years ago)

as usual, felt compelled to change channels as soon as racist asian schtick kicked in

― the sir edmund hillary of sitting through pauly shore films (Shakey Mo Collier), Friday, 23 March 2012 22:39 (thirteen years ago)

Yeah, that is far and away the most lamentable aspect of the show and pretty much the only thing that keeps me from recommending it unreservedly. And it's doubly disappointing, since (as with most other things) they've been otherwise pretty smart and insightful about race. I don't know why they have it in for Asians.

― Naughty By Nurture (Deric W. Haircare), Friday, 23 March 2012 23:40 (thirteen years ago)

yeah that was nagl

― Peppermint Patty Hearst (VegemiteGrrl), Friday, 23 March 2012 23:44 (thirteen years ago)

Episode felt like it was left up to the very last minute (endless audience-taxing shots of rotating jewelry), but some of the best South Park episodes are like that.

― Reality Check Cashing Services (Elvis Telecom), Friday, 23 March 2012 23:55 (thirteen years ago)

I've been saying "Okay sir, I'm just gonna check inside ya aaaasshole" all week, regardless of context.

― tanuki, Friday, 23 March 2012 23:57 (thirteen years ago)

I don't see how the Asian ladies this week are any different than the black ladies last week, this show's been pretty consistant in that. Maybe because they have (had?) a recurring Asian character in the City Wok guy? (which the creators apparently think is the funniest joke ever)

― Estimate the percent chance that a whale has ever been to the moon? (frogbs), Saturday, 24 March 2012 00:25 (thirteen years ago)

I mean I don't think it goes any further than "all the writers think Trey's Asian guy voice is funny", the characters that stick around are usually the ones with the best voices

― Estimate the percent chance that a whale has ever been to the moon? (frogbs), Saturday, 24 March 2012 00:28 (thirteen years ago)

Maybe because they have (had?) a recurring Asian character in the City Wok guy?

Turns out he's not actually Asian (spoilers).

― General Scheherazod (Deric W. Haircare), Saturday, 24 March 2012 00:29 (thirteen years ago)

I mean I don't think it goes any further than "all the writers think Trey's Asian guy voice is funny", the characters that stick around are usually the ones with the best voices

― Estimate the percent chance that a whale has ever been to the moon? (frogbs), Saturday, 24 March 2012 Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

^ this is true + there is a knowing 'this will piss off certain liberal sensibilities' + they are equal opportunity haters..

― xyzzzz__, Saturday, 24 March 2012 08:57 (thirteen years ago)

two weeks pass...

wow i'd do anything for a "Jackin' in San Diego" mp3
the show's still pretty hit & miss but all the musical bits are amazing, as they've always been

― Estimate the percent chance that a whale has ever been to the moon? (frogbs), Thursday, 12 April 2012 23:46 (thirteen years ago)

holy shit I just realized that was about the Kony video

here's the song, no video though
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5LKcsB8OMw8&feature=related

guess i can just convert this

― Estimate the percent chance that a whale has ever been to the moon? (frogbs), Thursday, 12 April 2012 23:49 (thirteen years ago)

(which the creators apparently think is the funniest joke ever)

they run every single one of their "jokes" into the ground. those two cocks who created it are unbearable. this show is just the fucking worst.

― it's smdh time in America (will), Friday, 13 April 2012 03:24 (thirteen years ago)

Used to be good when then animation and overall style was charmingly crude (it was the identity! why did they do away with it?), the characters didn't develop (one of them kept dying every episode! this played so well with the crude style), and the kids found truth through their fresh perspectives on life, not because they already had everything figured out like a bunch of insightful twenty somethings. If you wanted the kids to grow up then you should have let them. Might as well have them all in college if you want people to believe they'd have all these developed critiques on society. Also some of the bits within the satire comes off in the way Robot Chicken approaches parody, like a fifteen year old was riffing on a "you know what would be funny if x happened?" scenario that quickly misses it's own point as it geeks out over the details to a ridiculous extent.

― Evan, Friday, 13 April 2012 04:23 (thirteen years ago)

South Park is similar to Robot Chicken in that it is animated and it on television.

― DRANGUS (Deric W. Haircare), Friday, 13 April 2012 04:28 (thirteen years ago)

it is on television.

― DRANGUS (Deric W. Haircare), Friday, 13 April 2012 04:28 (thirteen years ago)

the show's still crude as hell, just not in the animation
really, what do you expect after 16 seasons

― you can expect punches, kicks and even worse (frogbs), Friday, 13 April 2012 04:44 (thirteen years ago)

DWH I wasn't saying the shows were similar except that they both get carried away with bits in dorky ways, basically.

Animation is allowed to improve after so much time yes, if that's what you mean. But they didn't do anything to preserve the personality that came naturally out of the crudeness. The silliness and abrupt, quick pacing of the homemade animation and sound effects was a great counterpoint to the over the top ridiculous scenes that took place, and was certainly intentional even if it started as necessity.

― Evan, Friday, 13 April 2012 05:08 (thirteen years ago)

I still watch it, it still makes me laugh, the show has changed but it still has pretty much the same spirit it always had. Which is: make fun of all things, all the time, make fun of all the people.

This week's episode was A+.

― Peppermint Patty Hearst (VegemiteGrrl), Friday, 13 April 2012 05:31 (thirteen years ago)

I certainly agree with that, but I was talking about the execution.

― Evan, Friday, 13 April 2012 05:46 (thirteen years ago)

If you wanted the kids to grow up then you should have let them. Might as well have them all in college if you want people to believe they'd have all these developed critiques on society.

this is really the worst thing an animated show can do, which is why none of them do it. live action shows where the characters aging is a real thing (i.e. any show with kids on it) tends to have a totally different dynamic than an animated show. some of the Simpsons episodes where they go into the future are nice, but I sure as hell wouldn't want to watch a version of the show where all the characters were 15 years older. I think in South Park it's kind of a given that the kids aren't really kids anymore, which yes is a little bothersome, but still part of the show's overall dynamic.

― you can expect punches, kicks and even worse (frogbs), Friday, 13 April 2012 18:15 (thirteen years ago)

the show's main thesis has always been "the kids are sane and the adults are crazy, except for when the kids are crazy"

― an independent online phenomenon (DJP), Friday, 13 April 2012 18:25 (thirteen years ago)

Yeah, but the kids were originally sane via their fresh young world view without preconceived notions. Now they're just megaphones for stuff Matt and Trey are annoyed by in current events.

And you're right, the show wouldn't have worked with them literally grown up, but that was my point in a way. Plenty of shows develop progressively in all sorts of subtle directions, and at a certain point the writers and viewers have been steadily lead into the new world that's been created that they don't notice the purity of the original concept is corrupted and forgotten, leaving a portion of fans disinterested and saying the show sucks now but they're not sure why.

I don't think South Park sucks that bad now but I consider the first 3 1/2 seasons at least to be a much, much different and better program altogether.

― Evan, Friday, 13 April 2012 19:19 (thirteen years ago)

Yeah, but the kids were originally sane via their fresh young world view without preconceived notions.

we only thought this because Matt and Trey hadn't done five bazillion interviews about their views and how they influence the show yet

― an independent online phenomenon (DJP), Friday, 13 April 2012 19:22 (thirteen years ago)

No I mean how the characters were written. The kids just did things with innocent, kid like motives and ended up stumbling on truths the adults were too set in their ways to see all along. Summed up by their "I learned something today" to spell it out if need be, while preserving the kid's fresh perspectives on the world.

― Evan, Friday, 13 April 2012 19:29 (thirteen years ago)

Basically hose truths were always Matt & Trey's opinions but they were written into the show in a way that made more sense coming from kid characters.

― Evan, Friday, 13 April 2012 20:00 (thirteen years ago)

basically Matt & Trey's opinions are about as nuanced and thoughtful as a 10 year old's.

― Jilly Boel and the Eltones (Shakey Mo Collier), Friday, 13 April 2012 20:03 (thirteen years ago)

we only thought this because Matt and Trey hadn't done five bazillion interviews about their views and how they influence the show yet

yeah the moralizing while pretending not to be moralizing thing is there from the start

― HE HATES THESE CANS (Austerity Ponies), Friday, 13 April 2012 20:10 (thirteen years ago)

There's plenty to criticize about South Park, but most of the criticism I read/hear is roughly on par with, "I really hate it when Cartman gets anal probed and when Stan barfs on Wendy and also I hope we make it through this Y2K thing okay".

― DRANGUS (Deric W. Haircare), Friday, 13 April 2012 20:19 (thirteen years ago)

I really hate when they do their unrepentantly racist depictions of asians

― Jilly Boel and the Eltones (Shakey Mo Collier), Friday, 13 April 2012 20:21 (thirteen years ago)

Overall, there's maybe been a slight but barely percepible dip in overall quality, that's probably to be expected from any show that's been on for sixteen seasons. But the last season produced a couple of the best episodes of the whole series, so there isn't really too much to complain about if you were ever a fan.

― DRANGUS (Deric W. Haircare), Friday, 13 April 2012 20:24 (thirteen years ago)

I agree. I think the season before last (?) left me a little cold, and I thought maybe I was done with them but yeah there were some corkers last season, the arc with Stan's parents splitting up was outstanding.

― Peppermint Patty Hearst (VegemiteGrrl), Friday, 13 April 2012 20:25 (thirteen years ago)

Yeah, you'll notice upthread that I made that same point, Shakey. It's pretty indefensible, and it's a shame that dumb shit like that has to compromise the general high quality they've maintained.

― DRANGUS (Deric W. Haircare), Friday, 13 April 2012 20:26 (thirteen years ago)

I can't remember which episodes are from which season. was the cooking show/shakeweight one last season? cuz that was great.

― Jilly Boel and the Eltones (Shakey Mo Collier), Friday, 13 April 2012 20:27 (thirteen years ago)

the eventual reveal on the City Wok manager sort of redeemed that character for me and made me think they were done with their comedy racist Asian depictions, and then I saw the HSN episode and was a little sad inside

although the person I know who appears to be the biggest fan of the South Park depiction of Asians is Taiwanese-American; he constantly quotes "our penis VERY SMALL" at people

― an independent online phenomenon (DJP), Friday, 13 April 2012 20:44 (thirteen years ago)

I think that's the thing about the South Park shtick, like I'm Jewish + I think their most 'vicious'/over the top Jew stuff is hilarious, the more base and ridiculous and nailing every single stereotype the better imo.

― sleepingbag, Friday, 13 April 2012 21:22 (thirteen years ago)

I loved the Passover episode last week

― Peppermint Patty Hearst (VegemiteGrrl), Friday, 13 April 2012 21:27 (thirteen years ago)

same here, my wife (who is Mexican) feels the same way, the offensive stuff isn't really that offensive once you realize they treat everyone that way, and she thinks that the show's depiction of Mexican/American relations is spot on

― you can expect punches, kicks and even worse (frogbs), Friday, 13 April 2012 21:32 (thirteen years ago)

oh that was an xp

also to comment on this:

I don't think South Park sucks that bad now but I consider the first 3 1/2 seasons at least to be a much, much different and better program altogether.

I do know what you mean, but really, they can't just go back to those days. On the flip side, some of the recent stuff - particularly the ending of the HSN epsiode, or the last one, the whole thing with Stan turning cynical, etc. - that's not something they could have done in the old days. I agree that the digital animation kind of hampers the show's personality, but at the same time they're capable of so much more now, and I do think there's a lot more subtlety to the show these days

― you can expect punches, kicks and even worse (frogbs), Friday, 13 April 2012 21:35 (thirteen years ago)

they treat everyone that way

weakass rationalization

― Jilly Boel and the Eltones (Shakey Mo Collier), Friday, 13 April 2012 21:44 (thirteen years ago)

about half of the original season episodes are really, really hamfisted and haven't aged well; the show didn't really hit a consistent, rewatchable groove until "Mr Hankey, The Christmas Poo" (although special shout-out to "Weight Gain 4000")

― an independent online phenomenon (DJP), Friday, 13 April 2012 21:44 (thirteen years ago)

I have issues with how Jews are depicted on this show too, but it feels more like in-fighting with fellow Jews given Stone's involvement - also it's not as egregious as the asian stuff, which is shamelessly trotted out EVERY SINGLE TIME they depict an asian.

― Jilly Boel and the Eltones (Shakey Mo Collier), Friday, 13 April 2012 21:47 (thirteen years ago)

"i'm an equal opportunity offender" is the fucking lamest shit imo

― Mississippi Butt Hurt (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 13 April 2012 21:48 (thirteen years ago)

Not as lame as never offending anybody

― sleepingbag, Friday, 13 April 2012 23:35 (thirteen years ago)

weakass rationalization

"i'm an equal opportunity offender" is the fucking lamest shit imo

I'm not speaking for Matt & Trey, I'm sure they get off on pissing people off. I'm just saying why I don't really find the show offensive (as opposed to something like Family Guy)

― you can expect punches, kicks and even worse (frogbs), Saturday, 14 April 2012 01:33 (thirteen years ago)

'equal ops.' = pretty gd defence, as long as the jk is also funny. And 'city wok' fails to be funny the more you repeat it, unfortunately.

― xyzzzz__, Saturday, 14 April 2012 08:14 (thirteen years ago)

The "Coon & Friends" trilogy wasn't too long ago which they pretty much nailed IMO.. This was followed by Creme Fraiche which closed out the season... Then, throughout 2011 I felt as they they hit a slump because they were too preoccupied with The Book Of Mormon, which resulted in a bummer of a season.. However, the slump has ended, and the last 3 episodes have all be great! So hopefully they're back in the game...

― billstevejim, Saturday, 14 April 2012 09:39 (thirteen years ago)

Between the jewelry channel huckster and this week's tour group members with their "Long story short..."-ing, I'm suddenly aware of how acute an observer and mimic of colloquial speech Trey Parker has become.

― Potty Problems (Deric W. Haircare), Saturday, 21 April 2012 20:26 (thirteen years ago)

Mr. Garrison’s “history” lesson on Game Of Thrones early on is a hysterical throw-away gag, but it also helps illuminate the power plays going on throughout the episode. Sure, it’s a stretch to compare the happenings in Westeros with those in this quiet Colorado town. But Cartman’s Machiavellian techniques employ misdirection, lies, the spreading of rumors, and the use of the bully pulpit to stir the masses, maneuver his enemies, and protect his loved ones. (A Lannister always pays his debts, and a Cartman always ensures that he gets his way.)

― Mordy, Thursday, 26 April 2012 17:27 (thirteen years ago)

Between the jewelry channel huckster and this week's tour group members with their "Long story short..."-ing, I'm suddenly aware of how acute an observer and mimic of colloquial speech Trey Parker has become.

I wanted to make a point about this but yeah this is basically OTM. My chief complaint about Family Guy now is how hard they fail at doing this.

This week's episode was amazing. I think trying to scale back the number of "laughs" each episode has is helping them quite a bit.

― you can expect punches, kicks and even worse (frogbs), Thursday, 26 April 2012 17:34 (thirteen years ago)

"the slump has ended, and the last 3 episodes have all be great!"
i haven't watched regularly for a while -- if you had to pick 5 to watch from the last 5 years which ones would they be (allowing that some episodes may have dated poorly)?

re: family guy -- how is it more offensive? south park seems more culpable in that kids are more likely to emulate it. (the commentary on the shitty beef episode had them guiltily cackling when they recounted how they heard some kid in a store doing "shitty beef" over and over)

― Philip Nunez, Thursday, 26 April 2012 17:50 (thirteen years ago)

I don't know if that's really a good measure of what's offensive. I would think kids are drawn to both shows.

The difference to me is that when Cartman says racist/sexist/anti-sementic shit, the other characters call him out on it, and it's shown to have some real consequences to it, where as when Peter off-handedly mentions "women and Mexicans suck" or whatever it just cuts away to the next scene.

― you can expect punches, kicks and even worse (frogbs), Thursday, 26 April 2012 18:26 (thirteen years ago)

"anti-sementic shit"

i think you mean anti-semantic shit.

― Mordy, Thursday, 26 April 2012 18:33 (thirteen years ago)

i agree that kids probably like family guy, too, but it's less kid-oriented -- all the characters are the wrong age to embody. also, family guy doesn't engage in quite as much sermonizing, so it doesn't set itself up as a voice of moral authority like south park does. basically, family guy is gilbert gottfried, and south park is kevin smith, and it's easier to find kevin smith more offensive?

― Philip Nunez, Thursday, 26 April 2012 18:41 (thirteen years ago)

i can get behind that, though i don't think "shitty wok" is a good example, since that's a joke FG would have certainly beaten to the ground even faster, had they thought of it

― you can expect punches, kicks and even worse (frogbs), Thursday, 26 April 2012 18:44 (thirteen years ago)

i haven't watched regularly for a while -- if you had to pick 5 to watch from the last 5 years which ones would they be (allowing that some episodes may have dated poorly)?

cheating by picking multipart episodes

"You're Getting Old"/"Ass Burgers"
"Coon 2: Hindsight"/"Mysterion Rises"/"Coon vs Coon and Friends"
"Butters' Bottom Bitch"
"Major Boobage"
"Imaginationland I"/"Imaginationland II"/"Imaginationland III"

― I'M THAT POSTA, AAAAAAAAAH (DJP), Thursday, 26 April 2012 18:49 (thirteen years ago)

Can't disagree with any of that. You're Getting Old is one of the best ever.

― Aunt Acid and the Gaviscons (aldo), Thursday, 26 April 2012 19:09 (thirteen years ago)

yeah seriously, it's easily one of my top five favorites

― I'M THAT POSTA, AAAAAAAAAH (DJP), Thursday, 26 April 2012 19:35 (thirteen years ago)

oh man i forgot about Awesome Boobage

― GoT SPOILER ALERT (Gukbe), Thursday, 26 April 2012 19:43 (thirteen years ago)

yeah "You're Getting Old" and "Ass Burgers" are really something, I don't think I've seen another episode of any show like it.

also want to add "The Last of the Meheecans", "Creme Fraiche", "200/201", and "The Tale of Scrotie McBoogerballs" as being really good recent ones. that aired yesterday was also pretty great.

― you can expect punches, kicks and even worse (frogbs), Thursday, 26 April 2012 19:51 (thirteen years ago)

ha I was just about to say something about Scrotie McBoogerballs, the ep was great

― I'M THAT POSTA, AAAAAAAAAH (DJP), Thursday, 26 April 2012 19:52 (thirteen years ago)

I'm disappointed in myself that it took me so long to remember what "Mantequilla" meant in the Meeheecans ep

― Choad of Choad Hall (kingfish), Thursday, 26 April 2012 19:58 (thirteen years ago)

last season was really good actually, now that I'm looking at the list of episodes (I didn't see "Funnybot" but everything else was good to fantastic)

― I'M THAT POSTA, AAAAAAAAAH (DJP), Thursday, 26 April 2012 20:11 (thirteen years ago)

Funnybot was the one I spent the most time debating whether it was actually funny or not

― you can expect punches, kicks and even worse (frogbs), Thursday, 26 April 2012 20:16 (thirteen years ago)

Funnybot has the whole Dalek thing that doesn't work, and the German thing that doesn't work.

We are all missing out Royal Pudding. "As is tradition..."

― Aunt Acid and the Gaviscons (aldo), Thursday, 26 April 2012 20:39 (thirteen years ago)

haha I was ambivalent on that one until the ending

― I'M THAT POSTA, AAAAAAAAAH (DJP), Thursday, 26 April 2012 20:43 (thirteen years ago)

Yeah, it's really a toss-up as to which of "Scott Tenorman Must Die" or "You're Getting Old"/"Ass Burgers" is my absolute favorite, but they are, collectively, the best episodes of the series and some of the best episodes of television ever.

― Dr. Buzzard's® Original Banana Bread (Deric W. Haircare), Thursday, 26 April 2012 22:00 (thirteen years ago)

"Butters' Bottom Bitch"

I'm not a huge fan but I thought this one was a scream.

I don't know the name, but I think the one where Cartman when proven wrong decides to try and change the results of the American Civil War is also a really funny and clever one that doesn't get by just on gross out humor.

― earlnash, Thursday, 26 April 2012 22:31 (thirteen years ago)

Yeah, it's really a toss-up as to which of "Scott Tenorman Must Die" or "You're Getting Old"/"Ass Burgers" is my absolute favorite,

Love both of them but my fave of all time is the Wacky Molestation Adventure.

― Mordy, Thursday, 26 April 2012 22:33 (thirteen years ago)

tbh Butters is one of my favorite characters of all time

― I'M THAT POSTA, AAAAAAAAAH (DJP), Thursday, 26 April 2012 22:35 (thirteen years ago)

TBF, earlnash, "___________ is also a really funny and clever one that doesn't get by just on gross out humor" is a pretty good description of at least a third of the South Park output. Not to say that it doesn't devolve into dumb potty humor a lot of the time, but it's often quite smart.

― Dr. Buzzard's® Original Banana Bread (Deric W. Haircare), Thursday, 26 April 2012 22:54 (thirteen years ago)

those five episodes recommended better not be smart. i hate those. bring forth the potty humor i say.

― Philip Nunez, Thursday, 26 April 2012 22:57 (thirteen years ago)

actually i'm trying to think of a smart south park episode and can't think of any -- by smart do you mean high concept twist? like the one with flashbacks to previous episodes that didn't happen?

― Philip Nunez, Thursday, 26 April 2012 22:59 (thirteen years ago)

When it's on, South Park is one of the smartest comedies on TV. It's, like, about stuff without being didactic about the stuff it's about. The poop jokes are just garnish, usually. Except for when they're the main course.

― Dr. Buzzard's® Original Banana Bread (Deric W. Haircare), Thursday, 26 April 2012 23:27 (thirteen years ago)

? I can think of few shows more didactic than South Park

― heavy is the head that eats the crayons (Shakey Mo Collier), Thursday, 26 April 2012 23:38 (thirteen years ago)

i've watched a lot of episodes in the beginning and a sprinkled few in later seasons, but i really wouldn't call any of them smart. inspired, maybe? e.g. the al gore episode was mostly didactic anti-intellectualism, but "I'm cereal" is pretty great poop-level humor.

― Philip Nunez, Thursday, 26 April 2012 23:40 (thirteen years ago)

xpost

I guess I mean it's not leadingly didactic. Like, it's not usually so much about telling you what to think as it is about laying out several takes on a given topic. If it were pointedly a mouthpiece for Parker & Stone's politics, it'd be intolerable.

― Dr. Buzzard's® Original Banana Bread (Deric W. Haircare), Thursday, 26 April 2012 23:45 (thirteen years ago)

Yeah, Philip, you really owe it to yourself to watch more of the show. It was mostly goofy in the beginning, but it's grown a lot since. Although probably not in a way that you'd notice if you've only seen a smattering of recent eps.

― Dr. Buzzard's® Original Banana Bread (Deric W. Haircare), Thursday, 26 April 2012 23:47 (thirteen years ago)

"You're Getting Old" is a perfect example. That episode in particular is bluntly, brutally honest in a way that television hardly ever is.

― Dr. Buzzard's® Original Banana Bread (Deric W. Haircare), Thursday, 26 April 2012 23:49 (thirteen years ago)

that ep made me a little ;_;

― Peppermint Patty Hearst (VegemiteGrrl), Friday, 27 April 2012 00:22 (thirteen years ago)

funny that we're having this conversation. i actually came in here to say that cartman gently singing <i>"suck my balllls... suck em dry"</i> to himself was actually one of the most hilarious and honest things I've seen on tv in forever

― suidavyvan eht nioj (Whiney G. Weingarten), Friday, 27 April 2012 13:07 (thirteen years ago)

Also,if you're reccomending Funnybot, the whole thing hinges on the Comedy Central Awards thing, which is a reference that practically dated itself by the time the show aired

― suidavyvan eht nioj (Whiney G. Weingarten), Friday, 27 April 2012 13:08 (thirteen years ago)

Like, it's not usually so much about telling you what to think as it is about laying out several takes on a given topic

exactly - the "Butt Out" episode is a good example of that, you can't think Parker and Stone actually believe in what they're saying there, for them it's all about turning everything around

― you can expect punches, kicks and even worse (frogbs), Friday, 27 April 2012 13:14 (thirteen years ago)

i think my fav episode is 'casa bonita' but i guess that's old now

also what's the ep where everyone starts ignoring cartman so he thinks he's dead?

― J0rdan, Diddy (tpp), Friday, 27 April 2012 13:21 (thirteen years ago)

Also,if you're reccomending Funnybot, the whole thing hinges on the Comedy Central Awards thing, which is a reference that practically dated itself by the time the show aired

if anything this is the problem with modern South Park - they do a lot of shows based on stuff like this, or shows like Whale Hunters or Intervention that I'd guess the majority of their audience hasn't seen. lately a lot of their satire has been oddly specific.

― you can expect punches, kicks and even worse (frogbs), Friday, 27 April 2012 13:24 (thirteen years ago)

yeah, i actually cant beleieve those dudes watch that much tv, quite honestly

― suidavyvan eht nioj (Whiney G. Weingarten), Friday, 27 April 2012 14:13 (thirteen years ago)

http://www.southparkstudios.com/clips/388727/tween-wave

Haven't watched SP in years, but this episode made me laugh (the following one nearly made me cry, I'm ashamed to admit, but it was an emotional day overall).

― Scary Move 4 (dog latin), Tuesday, 1 May 2012 12:29 (thirteen years ago)

oh yeah, "You're Getting Old" was being talked about just now. Yes, I had a little cry afterwards. Yes, I'm a wuss.

― Scary Move 4 (dog latin), Tuesday, 1 May 2012 12:44 (thirteen years ago)

oh wait no, it was Ass Burgers.

― Scary Move 4 (dog latin), Tuesday, 1 May 2012 12:46 (thirteen years ago)

I did like those eps for having a character named Steamy Nicks and also explicitly calling out her "Landslide" that they licensed later that ep. It's like they both thought the joke name was too good and also wanted to prove how big of fans of FM they are(Trey especially, I'd wager).

― Choad of Choad Hall (kingfish), Tuesday, 1 May 2012 13:17 (thirteen years ago)

The president....is a DUCK!??!?

― That's a pretty funky dance, Garfield. Show me how you do it. (frogbs), Tuesday, 1 May 2012 14:39 (thirteen years ago)

Oh wait, it was Cartman Gets an Anal Probe. Yes, I had a little cry afterwards.

― suidavyvan eht nioj (Whiney G. Weingarten), Tuesday, 1 May 2012 15:13 (thirteen years ago)

the duck president signing off papers had me ROFLing everywhere though. it was the increased urgency of yacking up on the second paper that did it.

― Scary Move 4 (dog latin), Tuesday, 1 May 2012 15:19 (thirteen years ago)

'CUZ
BLACKS
BELONG
TOGETHER

― Thoughts? You must have loads. (a hoy hoy), Tuesday, 1 May 2012 15:58 (thirteen years ago)

as long as we're talking about great recent episodes I want to point out that "Major Boobage" may be the best episode they've ever done

― That's a pretty funky dance, Garfield. Show me how you do it. (frogbs), Tuesday, 1 May 2012 15:59 (thirteen years ago)

ok i watched "you're getting old" and half of "ass burgers" and enjoyed the poop humor and did not regret watching it, but this really isn't transcendent tv, like that episode of tng where picard gets tortured.

― Philip Nunez, Tuesday, 1 May 2012 17:47 (thirteen years ago)

tbf "You're Getting Old" is probably a stronger statement if you've been watching the show regularly for the 14 years up before it was broadcast

also you probably want to see "Major Boobage" if you just want a standalone "holy shit that was fucking funny" episode

― I'M THAT POSTA, AAAAAAAAAH (DJP), Tuesday, 1 May 2012 17:49 (thirteen years ago)

was that the 'heavy metal' tribute one?

― Philip Nunez, Tuesday, 1 May 2012 17:52 (thirteen years ago)

yes

― I'M THAT POSTA, AAAAAAAAAH (DJP), Tuesday, 1 May 2012 17:54 (thirteen years ago)

i remember liking it but don't remember too much about it. i always like episodes where it seems like they spent more money than usual (e.g. warcraft episode). they should just spend a lot of money on every episode.

― Philip Nunez, Tuesday, 1 May 2012 17:57 (thirteen years ago)

http://southparkstudios-intl.mtvnimages.com/shared/sps/media/images/1203/1203_kenny_very_cheesed.jpg?width=600

― Porto for Pyros (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Tuesday, 1 May 2012 17:58 (thirteen years ago)

"Cat piss can get you high. Like, really, really high. Probably shouldn't have just told you that right now."

― That's a pretty funky dance, Garfield. Show me how you do it. (frogbs), Tuesday, 1 May 2012 17:58 (thirteen years ago)

"You're Getting Old"/"Ass Burgers"
"Coon 2: Hindsight"/"Mysterion Rises"/"Coon vs Coon and Friends"
"Butters' Bottom Bitch"
"Major Boobage"
"Imaginationland I"/"Imaginationland II"/"Imaginationland III"

"imaginationland" and the "coon & friends" trilogy are both among my very favorites. i have a "coon and friends" poster in my basement which i'm probably going to frame after i move. "major boobage" rules also.

aside from these, if we're only going with stuff since mid-2007, I really liked "Fishsticks" "Pee" "Medicinal Fried Chicken" and "Creme Fraiche"

If you can get a hold of it, 200/201 are pretty amazing also, but it's also one of those where it helps if the viewer has seen lots of episodes.. It's a shame 201 may never be available outside of pirating.

― billstevejim, Tuesday, 1 May 2012 19:03 (thirteen years ago)

only saw 200/201 once but I remember being really amazed at the amount of work that went into it, but yeah you kind of have to be a massive fan of the show already

― That's a pretty funky dance, Garfield. Show me how you do it. (frogbs), Tuesday, 1 May 2012 19:04 (thirteen years ago)

why's 201 forbidden?

― Philip Nunez, Tuesday, 1 May 2012 19:05 (thirteen years ago)

lots of censorship due to images of Muhammed

― I'M THAT POSTA, AAAAAAAAAH (DJP), Tuesday, 1 May 2012 19:08 (thirteen years ago)

aaah southparkstudios doesn't have 200 either :(

― billstevejim, Tuesday, 1 May 2012 19:40 (thirteen years ago)

i saw 200 when it aired and missed 201.... Only episode i never saw. Kind of wondering if its worth using how to use torrents

― suidavyvan eht nioj (Whiney G. Weingarten), Tuesday, 1 May 2012 19:46 (thirteen years ago)

is it the super-god-friends episode with master control computer as moses? that's the only detail i remember, so it probably wasn't that good, but master control computer as moses is still a good bit.

― Philip Nunez, Tuesday, 1 May 2012 19:56 (thirteen years ago)

nono thats not the same one... 200/201 is about how the gingers and tom cruise are both trying to capture mohammad because he's the only person south park can't make fun of. also mitch conner (cartman's hand) has a saigon flashback.

― billstevejim, Tuesday, 1 May 2012 20:01 (thirteen years ago)

were there two mohammed episodes? i remember at least one episode where there's a black bar covering what's supposedly mohammed underneath.

― Philip Nunez, Tuesday, 1 May 2012 20:06 (thirteen years ago)

i guess there were a few instances.. the original "super best friends" circa-2001, and then the 2-parter where they made fun of family guy around 2006, and then they brought it back (along with premises from 20+ other episodes) for 200/201

― billstevejim, Tuesday, 1 May 2012 20:09 (thirteen years ago)

actually, there are several, there's 200/201, and there's the two-part "Cartoon Wars" episode that kind of centered around the idea, plus there's the old "Superfriends" episode where Muhammed actually is depicted without any censorship, but that of course was pre-9/11. IIRC 201 did make a reference to this. Also, IMO, the censored ending of 201 is probably more interesting than whatever it originally was.

― That's a pretty funky dance, Garfield. Show me how you do it. (frogbs), Tuesday, 1 May 2012 20:11 (thirteen years ago)

oh yeah...what he said

― That's a pretty funky dance, Garfield. Show me how you do it. (frogbs), Tuesday, 1 May 2012 20:11 (thirteen years ago)

201 has a crrrraaaaaaaazzzzzzzzy ending involving cartman.

medicinal fried chicken is the best.

― Thoughts? You must have loads. (a hoy hoy), Tuesday, 1 May 2012 20:15 (thirteen years ago)

You know what is the best episode? 'Cartman Sucks'. An easy target but perfectly done.

― Thoughts? You must have loads. (a hoy hoy), Thursday, 3 May 2012 15:11 (thirteen years ago)

four months pass...

Watching the ep that re-ran tonight about school bullying, and I'm reminded of something FilmCritHulk wrote last summer, about the bullshit libertarian nihilistic habits that Trey & Matt sometime fall into when they attack anybody advocating a position, regardless of if that position is valid or correct or not.

http://filmcrithulk.wordpress.com/2011/06/15/hulk-vs-the-church-of-south-park/

― Fiendish Doctor Wu (kingfish), Tuesday, 2 October 2012 04:23 (thirteen years ago)

the new football ep was p enjoyable imo

― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Tuesday, 2 October 2012 04:25 (thirteen years ago)

how the fuck can anyone read that

― wood grain, chestnut / cody, CHESNUTT (Whiney G. Weingarten), Tuesday, 2 October 2012 04:38 (thirteen years ago)

^^^

for a change :)

― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Tuesday, 2 October 2012 04:41 (thirteen years ago)

I wasn't overly bothered with the sarcastiball part of the plot, but Butters' developments in puberty and feeding everyone his spunk was completely lolsome. Best part was probably everybody just drinking it and then Randy just casually saying "it's jizz" like it was no biggie.

― passive-aggressive display name (aldo), Tuesday, 2 October 2012 08:10 (thirteen years ago)

anytime Parker and Stone have a political "point" to make it sucks, this isn't news

― vegetarian beef (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 2 October 2012 09:50 (thirteen years ago)

yeah the butters storyline was awesome

they kind of lost the thread a little with the sarcasm addiction but I still enjoyed it a lot

― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Tuesday, 2 October 2012 15:12 (thirteen years ago)

as a Packer fan the "fuck it, it's a field goal" line made me laugh a lot

also what Whiney said

― frogbs, Tuesday, 2 October 2012 15:18 (thirteen years ago)

"I only know five chords....six."

The Honey Boo Boo ep is worth it just for the songs.

― Fiendish Doctor Wu (kingfish), Saturday, 6 October 2012 05:51 (thirteen years ago)

The show would be so much better if they dropped all (or at least most) of the characters and centered the show around Ron and Andy.

― earlnash, Saturday, 6 October 2012 06:20 (thirteen years ago)

that was meant for the p&r thread right? i spent ages trying to get who ron&andy are in south park. unless you want a south park & rec crossover fanfic

― a hoy hoy, Saturday, 6 October 2012 06:22 (thirteen years ago)

Whereas on this show, Randy is the best character

― Fiendish Doctor Wu (kingfish), Saturday, 6 October 2012 07:05 (thirteen years ago)

rong

butters

― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Saturday, 6 October 2012 07:09 (thirteen years ago)

lol @ "maybe it was us"

― Mary Ty$ Band (Whiney G. Weingarten), Saturday, 6 October 2012 21:32 (thirteen years ago)

yeah, total truth bomb. it seemed like there was even maybe a little bit of genuine regret somewhere in there

― Chris S, Saturday, 6 October 2012 21:41 (thirteen years ago)

two weeks pass...

i laughed really hard at the sarcastiball one

― difficult listening hour, Sunday, 21 October 2012 06:18 (twelve years ago)

gr8080 really needs to watch this week's episode and provide commentary.

― false pie promises (Old Lunch), Sunday, 21 October 2012 06:25 (twelve years ago)

the best jokes were the shots of safeway

― difficult listening hour, Sunday, 21 October 2012 06:49 (twelve years ago)

and paddleboarding around the buoys.

― difficult listening hour, Sunday, 21 October 2012 06:52 (twelve years ago)

I liked Kenny's increasing grandiloquence as he wrote letters home by candlelight, and Stan remarking on it

― the max in the high castle (kingfish), Sunday, 21 October 2012 15:38 (twelve years ago)

that episode was bleh, but butters bitching out kyle and kenny's letters were so great.

― billstevejim, Sunday, 21 October 2012 17:59 (twelve years ago)

it's a weird thing to say, especially off the heels of their recent broadway success, but does anyone else think stone and parker have stunted their potential by continuing south park for this long? i think they joked about buying out comedy central several years back, but maybe it could have happened?
it seems like they've stagnated since the south park movie came out.

in contrast i feel like seth mcfarlane has gotten far more career mileage and opportunities out of family guy then anyone could have dreamed possible.

― Philip Nunez, Sunday, 21 October 2012 18:04 (twelve years ago)

South Park still surprisingly (if inconsistently) great; no potential squandered.

― false pie promises (Old Lunch), Sunday, 21 October 2012 18:10 (twelve years ago)

what i mean is they could have gone on to bigger/better things.
it seems like south park's holding them back.

― Philip Nunez, Sunday, 21 October 2012 18:14 (twelve years ago)

there's been an unfortunate slight decline in quality since the book of mormon, but not so much that i'll stop watching.

also, the "6 days to south park" special was somewhat revealing. a few friends of mine got the impression that bill hader's job is to laugh at jokes that aren't very good, encouraging the writers to settle for something that could be improved, or repeat a joke 15 times that's really only funny the 1st or 2nd time.

― billstevejim, Sunday, 21 October 2012 18:17 (twelve years ago)

there's been an unfortunate slight decline in quality since the book of mormon, but not so much that i'll stop watching.

I haven't seen any of the current season, but the previous two were definitely the patchiest yet.

― I wish to incorporate disco into my small business (chap), Sunday, 21 October 2012 18:20 (twelve years ago)

and it's still better than like 95% of whatever else is on TV.

― billstevejim, Sunday, 21 October 2012 18:24 (twelve years ago)

i dunno this guy's name, but i'm happy they brought him back.
http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lqojcp9bP21qcro1do1_500.png

― billstevejim, Sunday, 21 October 2012 18:26 (twelve years ago)

i haven't watched recent south park, but i'd venture it's not better than 75%, and of the top 25% it's not better than 85%, mostly because TV has gotten so good.

― Philip Nunez, Sunday, 21 October 2012 18:28 (twelve years ago)

what i mean is it won't be any great loss to shutter up production and maybe give them an opportunity to do something really great. there's still bob burgers, etc...

― Philip Nunez, Sunday, 21 October 2012 18:31 (twelve years ago)

Dude, if you haven't watched it recently, your argument doesn't really hold water. Particularly when there was a pair of episodes (last season?) that dealt pretty directly with their exhaustion but ultimate willingness to continue SP. And yes, I'd say it's easily still in the top 25% of shows on tv. One of the few I still actively look forward to.

― false pie promises (Old Lunch), Sunday, 21 October 2012 19:17 (twelve years ago)

i've watched the episodes that consensus on this thread held were absolute pinnacle masterpieces, and they were fine, but so are any of a vast surplus of good TV we've had recently, so unless the recent season was some revelatory improvement over that, you'd still be spoiled for choice of great TV that's as good or better.

― Philip Nunez, Sunday, 21 October 2012 19:30 (twelve years ago)

Well, Breaking Bad is better but it serves a different function. It doesn't need to be the best show on tv to satisfy a niche and still be worth watching. It's cool if it ain't your thing.

― false pie promises (Old Lunch), Sunday, 21 October 2012 19:36 (twelve years ago)

Man, the last couple of episodes have been pretty good but tonight's Lance Armstrong/Dr. Seuss parody was completely off the charts. Seek it out...

― Elvis Telecom, Thursday, 1 November 2012 04:19 (twelve years ago)

i haven't watched recent south park, but i'd venture it's not better than 75%, and of the top 25% it's not better than 85%, mostly because TV has gotten so good.

― Philip Nunez, Sunday, October 21, 2012 2:28 PM (1 week ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

what i mean is it won't be any great loss to shutter up production and maybe give them an opportunity to do something really great. there's still bob burgers, etc...

― Philip Nunez, Sunday, October 21, 2012 2:31 PM (1 week ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

LMFAOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

― Mr. Zone A (Whiney G. Weingarten), Thursday, 1 November 2012 14:06 (twelve years ago)

^^^^ insightful as ever

― Manchild in Beantown (stevie), Thursday, 1 November 2012 14:42 (twelve years ago)

What Elvis said

― American Fear of Pranksterism (Ed), Thursday, 1 November 2012 15:28 (twelve years ago)

the seuss parts destroyed me

― Mr. Zone A (Whiney G. Weingarten), Thursday, 1 November 2012 15:30 (twelve years ago)

I think the last few episodes have been fantastic.

― Sug ban (Nicole), Thursday, 1 November 2012 15:33 (twelve years ago)

one month passes...

Episode on Viva just now, where the nation loses the internet. Amazing.

"internet porn simulator"

― These are my every day balloons (Ste), Thursday, 20 December 2012 21:55 (twelve years ago)

three weeks pass...

Has anyone else seen Six Days To Air, the doc? I guess it's on netflix now.

It's p cool, and it makes so much more sense now why so many of the eps are so hit or miss. It makes me like them even more for working that way, with the same ppl for so many years. Also I had no idea that Tre and Matt dropped acid before the Oscars. Like that might be the alltime historically worst idea ever. But LOL

― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Tuesday, 15 January 2013 18:25 (twelve years ago)

http://noise-park.tumblr.com/

― dmr, Tuesday, 15 January 2013 18:32 (twelve years ago)

A bunch of friends of mine are immortalized on that. It's a big mystery among this community of musicians who the artist/culprit is, though.

― Tarfumes The Escape Goat, Tuesday, 15 January 2013 18:48 (twelve years ago)

at least two ilxors are on there

it's pretty funny

― dmr, Tuesday, 15 January 2013 18:51 (twelve years ago)

Yeah, I've spotted two ilxors.

― Troughton-masked Replicant (aldo), Tuesday, 15 January 2013 18:54 (twelve years ago)

nice

― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Tuesday, 15 January 2013 19:01 (twelve years ago)

9 pages down and Philip Best is still my favourite.

― Troughton-masked Replicant (aldo), Tuesday, 15 January 2013 19:05 (twelve years ago)

yeah they were airing that documentary the other day Veg - I loved the part where Trey is talking about trying to unwind by playing XBox and he sees the "new South Park!" ad right away

I agree that it really speaks to why the show is so hit and miss; I still maintain that if they did only 10 eps a year the show would be great again

― frogbs, Tuesday, 15 January 2013 19:36 (twelve years ago)

I liked this enough to watch some new south park episodes and then I stopped cause they mostly sucked

― iatee, Tuesday, 15 January 2013 19:42 (twelve years ago)

It's p cool, and it makes so much more sense now why so many of the eps are so hit or miss.

So why was that?

― xyzzzz__, Tuesday, 15 January 2013 19:55 (twelve years ago)

Guessing because they have 6 days to come up with an idea, write it, animate it, and get it on air.

― Gukbe, Tuesday, 15 January 2013 19:56 (twelve years ago)

and they may have to edit out jokes for time, or they end up trying to string 2 or 3 storylines together with other leftover jokes

― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Tuesday, 15 January 2013 20:08 (twelve years ago)

it was great seeing the human centipede/apple story being created

― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Tuesday, 15 January 2013 20:10 (twelve years ago)

No idea it was a fairly short window. Does explain how often one storyline within an ep is v funny while a couple of others are that totally off.

― xyzzzz__, Tuesday, 15 January 2013 22:26 (twelve years ago)

yeah early on they had longer time frames, but as they got faster at it or as deadlines pushed forward, they kind of locked themselves into this kinda "hair on fire" way of working

i mean seeing them sitting there day 1 of the writer's room for the new season & it's like *crickets*, nothing... into having a show on day six is crazy to watch

― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Tuesday, 15 January 2013 22:29 (twelve years ago)

Hope I can catch that doc some day - its quite remarkable when there is a late EP that is funny pretty much all the way through..

― xyzzzz__, Tuesday, 15 January 2013 22:38 (twelve years ago)

I can only think of a couple recently that were good all the way through - Broadway Bro-Down and Cash 4 Gold. The latter is one that I think is one of the best they've ever done but oddly enough it's one of the few that was actually way behind the times. I feel like almost everything since that awful Mr./Mrs. Garrison sex change episode has been real hit or miss, often within the same episode. Can anyone even remember what the "Jackin' in San Diego" episode was about?

― frogbs, Tuesday, 15 January 2013 22:42 (twelve years ago)

this last season was pretty good, I thought. There were a few meh ones but Sarcastaball and Cash for Gold and Nightmare on Face Time were really funny

― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Tuesday, 15 January 2013 22:43 (twelve years ago)

jackin in sandiego was the Kony ep

― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Tuesday, 15 January 2013 22:43 (twelve years ago)

oh yeah I know it had something to do with Kony and Stan making a documentary but I forget pretty much any specifics outside of that

the problem is that sometimes they unleash episodes so awful that it makes me never want to watch the show again. examples: the ziplining episode, the one where Jimmy goes to "special camp", any Towlie episode besides the first one

― frogbs, Tuesday, 15 January 2013 22:49 (twelve years ago)

I didn't like the Faith Hill ep, and yeah the ziplining one was superdumb

― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Tuesday, 15 January 2013 22:53 (twelve years ago)

I'm probably ~2 seasons behind (in the UK), but yes some of the EPs are unwatchable - the Towlie/Oprah one and anything to do w/Garrison's sex change. That was (looking at wiki) the beginning of Season 9 but I'm not sure of when exactly the rot set in.

"Miss Teacher Bangs a Boy" (one of those I caught recently) is really fkn hilarious.

― xyzzzz__, Tuesday, 15 January 2013 23:35 (twelve years ago)

yeah the Garrison ones were bad
and I hated the Oprah ep

― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Tuesday, 15 January 2013 23:36 (twelve years ago)

Oh man I loved the ziplining episode

― Bel-Air the Fresh Prince, sitting in a chair (DJP), Wednesday, 16 January 2013 00:20 (twelve years ago)

Actually every episode listed so far in this conversation has made me lol pretty hard

― Bel-Air the Fresh Prince, sitting in a chair (DJP), Wednesday, 16 January 2013 00:21 (twelve years ago)

I went onto their website & have watched Cartman Gets An Anal Probe and Weight Gain 4000. They are still awesome fyi
:D

― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Wednesday, 16 January 2013 00:26 (twelve years ago)

Amazing that SNL has six days to air, too, and a huge staff of talented, improvisational actors and writers, and no plot requirement, and actual celebrities, but usually sucks.

― Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 16 January 2013 00:37 (twelve years ago)

It's been so long I forgot that there used to be shadowing behind the cardboard cutouts
http://i815.photobucket.com/albums/zz78/darthraner/South%20Park%20Season%201/10.jpg

― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Wednesday, 16 January 2013 03:00 (twelve years ago)

the original south park theme song is creepy as hell. I think Claypool had a cold for this one

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zGZnn01j7s8

― frogbs, Wednesday, 16 January 2013 03:04 (twelve years ago)

My 2012 favorites were "Butterballs" (the bully/kony one) and "A Scause For Applause."

― billstevejim, Wednesday, 16 January 2013 05:33 (twelve years ago)

The first half was pretty weak, with only Cash For Gold (the best since You're Getting Old) and Butterballs standing out, but the second half was flat-out great. Obama Wins and Raising The Bar were the only disappointments - and even then, the James Cameron stuff in Raising The Bar was pretty good.

― Troughton-masked Replicant (aldo), Wednesday, 16 January 2013 09:31 (twelve years ago)

Frogbs - in tone it reminds me of Dali's Car:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q41IFhDn-Zg

― xyzzzz__, Wednesday, 16 January 2013 10:05 (twelve years ago)

can't wait for the inevitable Te'o episode

― frogbs, Thursday, 17 January 2013 22:24 (twelve years ago)

If it's as good as the Lance Armstrong episode, yes. If it's as good as the Honey Boo Boo episode, no.

― Troughton-masked Replicant (aldo), Thursday, 17 January 2013 22:28 (twelve years ago)

did they do a recent mass shooting episode? i feel like i would have heard about it if they did.

― Philip Nunez, Friday, 18 January 2013 02:02 (twelve years ago)

five months pass...

http://multiplayerblog.mtv.com/2013/07/12/south-park-the-stick-of-truth/

― Mordy , Friday, 12 July 2013 23:46 (twelve years ago)

seven months pass...

the game is bomb

― real myst opportunity (sleepingbag), Thursday, 6 March 2014 17:53 (eleven years ago)

I love the sound design, particularly that Skyrim sound effect whenever you get a new quest item.

― Emperor Cos Dashit (Adam Bruneau), Thursday, 6 March 2014 18:03 (eleven years ago)

When I first heard I wasn't sure why everyone was excited given the awful track record of South Park license games. Though I saw a sample of gameplay later and it looked like a neat concept.

― Evan, Thursday, 6 March 2014 19:19 (eleven years ago)

it looks and feels exactly like playing a (v good) episode of south park, and it also happens to be a very streamlined, enjoyable rpg kinda like mario rpg or w/e. really having fun with this.

― real myst opportunity (sleepingbag), Thursday, 6 March 2014 19:25 (eleven years ago)

It's way less about being funny or satirical or offensive and more about being an immersive virtual realm, so you don't even need to worry about that stuff if you are worried. At least where I am (3 hours total maybe?). I am VERY glad they decided to make an RPG. Visually it brings to mind the 2d/3d style of LucasArts graphic adventures. It's sort of a cross between Day of the Tentacle and Skyrim. Thankfully, the curses of modern gaming haven't bogged this game down with cutscenes and QTE's. It is such a natural fit for the animation style, and it is indeed like controlling your own episode of South Park movie in HD with a pretty simple, feature-heavy, centralized interface. The level of immersion is nearly seamless.

It's hilarious to control and watch these LARPers just walk around town, go into banks, sneak into movie theaters, wearing a cape and bashing open mailboxes with a sword, with adults for the most part obliviously wandering around NPCing in their own neurosis. It's a somewhat anarchic experience, sort of GTA: Muppet Babies.

― Emperor Cos Dashit (Adam Bruneau), Friday, 7 March 2014 01:18 (eleven years ago)

I like this way better than Skyrim atm.

― Emperor Cos Dashit (Adam Bruneau), Friday, 7 March 2014 01:19 (eleven years ago)

Yeah, this is far more Lucasarts adventure game mixed with lite Paper Mario RPG bits than anything. It's great. The multiple Dune refs amuse me.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZSPg5JLIYE4

― President Frankenstein (kingfish), Friday, 7 March 2014 01:34 (eleven years ago)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZSPg5JLIYE4

― President Frankenstein (kingfish), Friday, 7 March 2014 01:34 (eleven years ago)

It's way less about being funny or satirical or offensive and more about being an immersive virtual realm, so you don't even need to worry about that stuff if you are worried.

Lol its filled with insanely homophobic and racist humor and there's an entire level centered around anal rape

Thankfully, the curses of modern gaming haven't bogged this game down with cutscenes and QTE's.

its packed to the gills with button mashing segments, including multiple sequences where you have to perform an abortion using the analog sticks and multiple complicated farting tutorials

― AIDS (Hungry4Ass), Friday, 7 March 2014 02:07 (eleven years ago)

^^^ new board motto

― bi-polar uncle (its OK-he's dead) (Phil D.), Friday, 7 March 2014 02:19 (eleven years ago)

its packed to the gills with button mashing segments, including multiple sequences where you have to perform an abortion using the analog sticks and multiple complicated farting tutorials

LOL....videogames 2014

― everyday sheeple (Michael B), Friday, 7 March 2014 02:20 (eleven years ago)

Yeah uh I just went into the Chinese restaurant, so I take that back.

It was funny to walk into church and find Jesus and have a "YOU FOUND JESUS" sign come up on a banner.

― Emperor Cos Dashit (Adam Bruneau), Friday, 7 March 2014 02:40 (eleven years ago)

for those who don't feel like paying $60:

http://www.dealzon.com/deals/south-park-the-stick-of-truth

― President Frankenstein (kingfish), Friday, 7 March 2014 03:38 (eleven years ago)

I'm enjoying the commentary on videogames that you find, like the bit with the audiologs.

― President Frankenstein (kingfish), Friday, 7 March 2014 03:39 (eleven years ago)

The destructive environment is so much fun to explore!

― Emperor Cos Dashit (Adam Bruneau), Friday, 7 March 2014 03:50 (eleven years ago)

Looks like a ton of fun, but play clips where the guy spends five minutes changing hair styles or mentions that he's "only" 9 hours in really underscore why videogames are not for me, alas. Like, I wish!

― Josh in Chicago, Friday, 7 March 2014 12:51 (eleven years ago)

"Coming soon to a theater near you....Adam Sandler in..... ******fart noises********"

As long as he keeps making movies this kind of thing will be funny to me.

― Emperor Cos Dashit (Adam Bruneau), Friday, 7 March 2014 17:16 (eleven years ago)

I really like the fake 80s songs that play when you meet the goths. All the music in this game is pretty cool.

― Emperor Cos Dashit (Adam Bruneau), Friday, 7 March 2014 17:17 (eleven years ago)

i cracked up at the fake sisters of mercy song

― AIDS (Hungry4Ass), Friday, 7 March 2014 17:43 (eleven years ago)

Yeah, the goth kids were almost my favorite bit where Trey & Matt tipped their hands a bit too much about going to high school in the 80s. The episode where the goth kids encounter the Twilight/sparkly vampire crowds is funny both for how they resolve the situation, and for the fake Joy Division/Chameleons UK song they play over that scene.

Trey & Matt have a long history of making fake goth songs, is what I'm saying. Hell, they had on Robert Smith as a guest voice in the 2nd season.

― President Frankenstein (kingfish), Friday, 7 March 2014 19:16 (eleven years ago)

The dungeons in this are great! Way better than FFX or Skyrim. Lots of unnecessarily Rube Goldberg puzzles that bring to mind maybe "A Link to the Past". Of course, you can dress up as Link!

But yeech the gross-out humor and offensive stuff is like a big fat zit on the face of a really awesome RPG.

― Emperor Cos Dashit (Adam Bruneau), Saturday, 8 March 2014 01:50 (eleven years ago)

thanks for the review cankz, i'll wait for bargain bin

― Nhex, Saturday, 8 March 2014 03:50 (eleven years ago)

fwiw this is probably my GOTY (would have it clinched if the combat wasnt so insanely easy), just dont want anyone whos sensitive to that stuff walking in blind

― AIDS (Hungry4Ass), Saturday, 8 March 2014 03:51 (eleven years ago)

multiple complicated farting tutorials

one of these made me really angrily google 'south park game randy fart'

― real myst opportunity (sleepingbag), Saturday, 8 March 2014 04:01 (eleven years ago)

just like the show i'll feel conflicted about it and maybe enjoy it

― Nhex, Saturday, 8 March 2014 04:02 (eleven years ago)

it's a pretty short game too. i could have redboxed this and saved like $50.

― real myst opportunity (sleepingbag), Saturday, 8 March 2014 04:05 (eleven years ago)

one of these made me really angrily google 'south park game randy fart'

― real myst opportunity (sleepingbag), Friday, March 7, 2014 11:01 PM (4 minutes ago) Bookmark

Lol I had a lot of trouble with that one too. T'was worth it for all the epic farting humour to come from it though... Matt and Trey you did it again you epic bastards.

― AIDS (Hungry4Ass), Saturday, 8 March 2014 04:06 (eleven years ago)

It always gets on my nerves when modern games do a "retro" level and suddenly you are seeing 16-bit sprites mixed in with 8-bit sounds and "oh do we really have to re-draw the main characters? let's just use the HD 3d models from the rest of the game." Lazy.

― Emperor Cos Dashit (Adam Bruneau), Friday, 14 March 2014 23:29 (eleven years ago)

six months pass...

"Go Fund Yourself" season premiere seriously great.

― Elvis Telecom, Friday, 26 September 2014 21:07 (eleven years ago)

killed me

― difficult-difficult lemon-difficult (VegemiteGrrl), Friday, 26 September 2014 21:09 (eleven years ago)

two months pass...

OH NO! CUTTLEFISH IS ABOUT TO COME OUT OF MY ASSHOLE!

― bananas foster wallace (Whiney G. Weingarten), Wednesday, May 4, 2011 12:08 AM (3 years ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

― Whiney G. Weingarten, Thursday, 18 December 2014 16:31 (ten years ago)

Season finale needed more of U2 menacing people with Xmas gifts, but there was a lot of stuff left on the whiteboard to get through.

― Elvis Telecom, Thursday, 18 December 2014 22:13 (ten years ago)

i got Mr Hanky xmas album from a coworker for secret santa gift

i shaw shree shipsh come shailing in
on chrishmash day
on chrishmash day

― difficult-difficult lemon-difficult (VegemiteGrrl), Thursday, 18 December 2014 23:11 (ten years ago)

it just occurred to me that I didn't see a single episode of the past season and I didn't miss it at all

― the farakhan of gg (DJP), Thursday, 18 December 2014 23:29 (ten years ago)

I once say Trey Parker in line for beer at a Dallas Cowboys game. It was... unexpected.

― rip van wanko, Friday, 19 December 2014 01:42 (ten years ago)

*gets in beer line at cowboys game*
*whispers 'Trey Parker'*

― $80 is absurd and very ridiculous! (Sufjan Grafton), Friday, 19 December 2014 01:44 (ten years ago)

nah man that takes all the unexpected out

― rip van wanko, Friday, 19 December 2014 02:45 (ten years ago)

this season has been really good

― Abstinence Hawk (frogbs), Friday, 19 December 2014 04:53 (ten years ago)

eight months pass...

Caught the new one last night, probably the worst episode I have ever seen. It's like they wrote the episode while waiting in the dentist office reading this summer's editions of Newsweek.

― AdamVania (Adam Bruneau), Friday, 18 September 2015 15:53 (ten years ago)

Curious what ilx people think about the season premiere, and the current popularity of political correctness theme.

xpost well there you go

― Evan, Friday, 18 September 2015 15:57 (ten years ago)

I'm having trouble seeing political correctness as a problem for anyone other than the people complaining about it. Which, there are so many things in the world to complain about, just seems mostly self indulgent. Also watching this yesterday with the most recent school scandal being the Muslim kid busted for his clock. Schools are too politically correct yet also cops will just randomly arrest a 9th grader for racist reasons. Bad timing.

Maybe they will love it in the Creepy Liberalism thread.

― AdamVania (Adam Bruneau), Friday, 18 September 2015 16:08 (ten years ago)

SP's politics + racism have always been abhorrent

this show is worthless when it's not focusing on Randy or Cartman doing insane things to serve their egos

― Οὖτις, Friday, 18 September 2015 16:13 (ten years ago)

yeah that was really terrible. it's weird because over the last few seasons they gradually moved the show's overall message towards an umbrella "don't be an asshole," albeit often delivered in assholish terms, whereas this went right back to that unfunny kneejerk zone they've been better at avoiding? idk maybe I'm imagining the improvement. I admit I did laugh at the ending bit, wherein everyone literally got to have their cake and eat it, too.

― the naive cockney chorus (Simon H.), Friday, 18 September 2015 16:51 (ten years ago)

I thought the "PC frat dude" idea was kind of funny at first, but then again I think they were trying to portray advocates of political correctness to be bullies in a sense? Getting in peoples faces when they say anything of any level discriminatory or "problematic".

― Evan, Friday, 18 September 2015 17:28 (ten years ago)

that is the standard right wing line

― Οὖτις, Friday, 18 September 2015 17:29 (ten years ago)

ie "why can't I, as a white man, say whatever the fuck I want to whoever I want, with no repercussions or response whatsoever"

― Οὖτις, Friday, 18 September 2015 17:30 (ten years ago)

let's be real, that is in no way confined to the right wing

― I Am Curious (Dolezal) (DJP), Friday, 18 September 2015 17:30 (ten years ago)

does the left complain about political correctness? (I don't really follow the free speech and creepy liberalism thread)

― Οὖτις, Friday, 18 September 2015 17:37 (ten years ago)

It's the extremes of both sides of this argument that are the loudest. That's the problem with a cartoon making commentary- the other side on any issue will always be the cartoony extreme.

― Evan, Friday, 18 September 2015 17:38 (ten years ago)

the problem isn't the format, it's the fact that Parker and Stone are assholes

― Οὖτις, Friday, 18 September 2015 17:39 (ten years ago)

i havent watched SP in six or seven years, and i thoroughly enjoyed the new episode. complaining about political correctness =/= wanting to say whatever the fuck you want

― flappy bird, Friday, 18 September 2015 17:40 (ten years ago)

It would have been a better portrayal to have cartoony tumblr inspired PC frat bullies fighting cartoony reddit MRA advocates or something, while everyone else kind of stays out of it and has a rational discussion.

― Evan, Friday, 18 September 2015 17:40 (ten years ago)

plenty ostensibly on the left will complain about IDENTITY POLITICS! and its concomitant problems including political correctness getting in the way of real politics, whatever real politics is

― Merdeyeux, Friday, 18 September 2015 17:41 (ten years ago)

I have never heard that but I don't generally run in academic circles what do I know

― Οὖτις, Friday, 18 September 2015 17:42 (ten years ago)

Shakey, Jonathan Chait has shown his ass repeatedly this year complaining about the mean ol' PC police who are ruining Democratic politics for everyone.

― I might like you better if we Yelped together (Phil D.), Friday, 18 September 2015 17:56 (ten years ago)

oh right I had forgotten about this thing

fair dos

― Οὖτις, Friday, 18 September 2015 18:02 (ten years ago)

Knew this episode would be unpopular on Ilxor.

also, xp flappy-bird

― someone's attractive cousin (st. nico), Tuesday, 22 September 2015 05:06 (ten years ago)

ILXors selectively missing the many many parts of that episode where they actually side/agree with PC culture/goals is just as bad as "south park republicans" thinking it was a huge shot at PC CULTURE GONE MAD

― posts baloney - whine iverson (Whiney G. Weingarten), Tuesday, 22 September 2015 05:18 (ten years ago)

The entire fucking thing was about coming to terms with the fact that society is changing and maybe doing a show run on handicapped and asian jokes for 19 years may not have been the best decision

― posts baloney - whine iverson (Whiney G. Weingarten), Tuesday, 22 September 2015 05:20 (ten years ago)

"Because PC Principal [principle] is right, Kyle. You and I are bigots, and it's time for us to grow up."

"If I can face my prejudice, why can't you? We're two privileged, straight white boys who have their laughs about things we never had to deal with."

― posts baloney - whine iverson (Whiney G. Weingarten), Tuesday, 22 September 2015 05:25 (ten years ago)

ffs

― deejerk reactions (darraghmac), Tuesday, 22 September 2015 08:17 (ten years ago)

The entire fucking thing was about coming to terms with the fact that society is changing and maybe doing a show run on handicapped and asian jokes for 19 years may not have been the best decision

kind of a worthless mea culpa when a) they continue to mine those subjects for laffs and b) people complained about that shit 19 years ago too

― Οὖτις, Tuesday, 22 September 2015 15:35 (ten years ago)

I wonder if the makers of south park were to notice yr standard ilxor taking a standard ilx position on any one thing might they feel that perhaps that position had been noted, in its good and bad, in the majority of south park shows, my guess is that they might feel that it had so I'm wondering why standard ilxors are taking standard ilx positions itt.

― deejerk reactions (darraghmac), Tuesday, 22 September 2015 15:43 (ten years ago)

the character meant to be imparting those ~lessons~ is beating the shit out of them.

the only part of the episode you could take "straight" was the elderly neighbors (aka Parker and Stone, increasingly estranged from their target audience) saying "welp, this is happening again, gonna blow over soon enough!"

― the naive cockney chorus (Simon H.), Tuesday, 22 September 2015 15:44 (ten years ago)

What exactly is the standard ilxor position?

― AdamVania (Adam Bruneau), Tuesday, 22 September 2015 15:50 (ten years ago)

kind of a worthless mea culpa when a) they continue to mine those subjects for laffs and b) people complained about that shit 19 years ago too
― Οὖτις, Tuesday, September 22, 2015 11:35 AM (40 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

And they admit that too

― posts baloney - whine iverson (Whiney G. Weingarten), Tuesday, 22 September 2015 16:19 (ten years ago)

Cartman: "[S]ometimes joking about un-PC things can actually be important, because it starts a dialogue. . . . What's wrong, Kyle? You have your cake. Eat it, too.

Stan: It just seems to me like we all lost in this, and that the only person who won was you.

― posts baloney - whine iverson (Whiney G. Weingarten), Tuesday, 22 September 2015 16:19 (ten years ago)

standard ilxor postion?

To take something innocuous and blow it out of proportion just for the sake of being pissed off?

― someone's attractive cousin (st. nico), Tuesday, 22 September 2015 16:21 (ten years ago)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=USShHXK21ds

― someone's attractive cousin (st. nico), Tuesday, 22 September 2015 16:22 (ten years ago)

"ripped it off of chief keef"

― posts baloney - whine iverson (Whiney G. Weingarten), Tuesday, 22 September 2015 16:23 (ten years ago)

Cool dialog bro.

― AdamVania (Adam Bruneau), Tuesday, 22 September 2015 16:23 (ten years ago)

haven't watched this show in eons

"pc" covers a rather wide spectrum, aside from whatever Bill Maher is bleating about in a given week

― skateboards are the new combover (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 22 September 2015 16:28 (ten years ago)

What exactly is the standard ilxor position?

― AdamVania (Adam Bruneau), Tuesday, 22 September 2015 15:50 (4 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

the half of the outraged people watching south park who feel that the right wing was being boosted or not being satirised enough, yknow yourself.

― deejerk reactions (darraghmac), Tuesday, 22 September 2015 20:30 (ten years ago)

Not outraged I just don't find "South Park is a victim of PC culture" very funny nor deep commentary on anything other than South Park.

― AdamVania (Adam Bruneau), Tuesday, 22 September 2015 20:40 (ten years ago)

The one "right wing" leaning SP moment that I often wonder about is the global warming mention in the now 10+ year old episode about future people coming back in time and taking everyone's jobs. The delivery made it sound like they weren't necessarily making a joke about "shit rednecks say", and were actually bashing global warming science (The line went something like "Even if global warming was real, which all proven scientific data shows it is not, how would that... etc."). I remember hearing something about them being friends with Penn & Teller who were also deniers at the time. But maybe I misinterpreted. If not, I wonder what they'd say about it now.

― Evan, Tuesday, 22 September 2015 20:40 (ten years ago)

Like that was the whole point of the show, right? Freedom of speech being squashed for people with mainstream tv, movie, and Broadway hits.

― AdamVania (Adam Bruneau), Tuesday, 22 September 2015 20:42 (ten years ago)

Ie. the creators of South Park.

― AdamVania (Adam Bruneau), Tuesday, 22 September 2015 20:42 (ten years ago)

idk was it but I didn't watch it in your house iykwim

― deejerk reactions (darraghmac), Tuesday, 22 September 2015 20:45 (ten years ago)

It didn't speak to me bc i don't have a hit tv show where people complain if i randomly have refugees show up for no reason. I can see it speaking to you if you think PC people need to be made upset as a means to an end.

― AdamVania (Adam Bruneau), Tuesday, 22 September 2015 20:46 (ten years ago)

You have to admit the ends was sloppy, like they were just throwing things at the screen hoping something sticks.

― AdamVania (Adam Bruneau), Tuesday, 22 September 2015 20:47 (ten years ago)

end

― AdamVania (Adam Bruneau), Tuesday, 22 September 2015 20:47 (ten years ago)

ah no, not as a means to an end or anything tbf

― deejerk reactions (darraghmac), Tuesday, 22 September 2015 20:48 (ten years ago)

he one "right wing" leaning SP moment that I often wonder about is the global warming mention in the now 10+ year old episode about future people coming back in time and taking everyone's jobs. The delivery made it sound like they weren't necessarily making a joke about "shit rednecks say", and were actually bashing global warming science (The line went something like "Even if global warming was real, which all proven scientific data shows it is not, how would that... etc."). I remember hearing something about them being friends with Penn & Teller who were also deniers at the time. But maybe I misinterpreted. If not, I wonder what they'd say about it now.

― Evan, Tuesday, September 22, 2015 4:40 PM (58 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Uh . . . they made an entire episode about how global warming is fake and are still calling back to it. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ManBearPig

― I might like you better if we Yelped together (Phil D.), Tuesday, 22 September 2015 21:41 (ten years ago)

Dont be so smug cant you tell how fair and evenhanded they are

― Οὖτις, Tuesday, 22 September 2015 21:43 (ten years ago)

It seems weird to do a current events episode all about PC stuff and have a frat and not address all the frat scandals that were big news. There were all these stories of frat houses in rape scandals and singing racist songs and stuff they could have mined for material.

― AdamVania (Adam Bruneau), Tuesday, 22 September 2015 21:48 (ten years ago)

why do these episodes all have to have a message at all? SP has a history of taking whatever's current and finding a way to subvert it into absurdity, ever since the "Butt Out" episode I stopped thinking they were earnestly trying to make a point about anything

― frogbs, Tuesday, 22 September 2015 21:50 (ten years ago)

Its weird to pretend they dont have an agenda or a consistent pov is all

― Οὖτις, Tuesday, 22 September 2015 22:07 (ten years ago)

They arent earnest, dont think anyone suggested that

― Οὖτις, Tuesday, 22 September 2015 22:08 (ten years ago)

I totally forgot about Man bear pig

― Evan, Tuesday, 22 September 2015 22:14 (ten years ago)

Oddly I think the problem here is that show was not funny, see last several years of South Park.

― a strawman stuffed with their collection of 12 cds (jjjusten), Wednesday, 23 September 2015 02:12 (ten years ago)

I admit the Tom Brady thing got a laugh out of me

― Nhex, Wednesday, 23 September 2015 02:54 (ten years ago)

I thought that "we didn't listen!" episode was making fun of climate change deniers?

― Robert Adam Gilmour, Wednesday, 23 September 2015 13:48 (ten years ago)

that they tend to make fun of "both sides" on any given issue is not really evidence of them being impartial, particularly when facts are involved and one side is a total fact-free zone, as with climate change.

― Οὖτις, Wednesday, 23 September 2015 18:38 (ten years ago)

I mean I guess it's nice that they acknowledge that they are having their cake and eating it too by doing politically irresponsible shit and simultaneously claiming that they are not saying anything politically relevant, but it still makes them assholes for doing it in the first place.

― Οὖτις, Wednesday, 23 September 2015 18:40 (ten years ago)

they could become bill maher

― Sufjan Grafton, Wednesday, 23 September 2015 18:45 (ten years ago)

haven't they already?

― Nhex, Wednesday, 23 September 2015 18:48 (ten years ago)

unfunny racist atheists all look alike to me

― Οὖτις, Wednesday, 23 September 2015 18:50 (ten years ago)

― Sufjan Grafton, Wednesday, 23 September 2015 19:07 (ten years ago)

thx to goole for finding this link, which I think is helpful in deconstructing what exactly is wrong with South Park's "we make fun of BOTH sides!" defense when it comes to certain issues: http://www.vox.com/2015/8/27/9214015/tech-nerds-politics

there's obvious overlaps between South Park and techbrotarian approaches. Probably not a coincidence that my first exposure to South Park was when some tech bros at Burning Man were passing around the original "Xmas Card"

― Οὖτις, Wednesday, 23 September 2015 21:13 (ten years ago)

south park should probably clarify that it was a goof

― Sufjan Grafton, Wednesday, 23 September 2015 21:45 (ten years ago)

jjjusten with the only post the rly matters.

the obsession with whether or not a weekly cartoon satire agrees with yr personal POV or is right or wrong in the extent to which it does so is ..... idk. strange is a kind word maybe.

― deejerk reactions (darraghmac), Wednesday, 23 September 2015 21:49 (ten years ago)

well, satire isn't funny when it's stupid

― Οὖτις, Wednesday, 23 September 2015 21:51 (ten years ago)

sp can do stupid funny p well bytimes. im not sure its always aiming and missing for the spots claimed itt, I guess.

nb I've not watched it regularly in years.

― deejerk reactions (darraghmac), Wednesday, 23 September 2015 21:54 (ten years ago)

The virtual reality episode last season was pretty brilliant in a classic sci fi way.

― AdamVania (Adam Bruneau), Wednesday, 23 September 2015 22:19 (ten years ago)

The game(and tie-in eps) were really funny. Curious to see what they can do with the upcoming one.

― Purves Grundy (kingfish), Wednesday, 23 September 2015 22:55 (ten years ago)

On reflection, Lion King 2 wasn't a bad movie.

― tsrobodo, Thursday, 24 September 2015 20:06 (ten years ago)

reading this thread yesterday I had the idea to compile all Shakey posts into a nice bound book and present it to my 4yo as a gift and the title would be 'JUST DON'T BE THIS GUY'

― my cheeriness amazes me (rip van wanko), Thursday, 24 September 2015 20:16 (ten years ago)

your loss

― Οὖτις, Thursday, 24 September 2015 20:33 (ten years ago)

sterling chance for a "just a bit of fun so let's be coll" quip spurned in the interests of rising to weak bait. for shame.

― deejerk reactions (darraghmac), Thursday, 24 September 2015 21:53 (ten years ago)

ep 2 had me dyin

― posts baloney - whine iverson (Whiney G. Weingarten), Friday, 25 September 2015 04:48 (ten years ago)

definitely a step up, though admittedly I am a sucker for their Canada-centric eps. ("The Safety Dance"!) one of their best songs in a minute, too. I'm curious to see how long they'll stretch out the Garrison campaign.

― the naive cockney chorus (Simon H.), Friday, 25 September 2015 05:08 (ten years ago)

It was strong again tonight, too! And extremely meta, but not in an irritating way.

― the naive cockney chorus (Simon H.), Thursday, 1 October 2015 03:14 (ten years ago)

one month passes...

Ok this has gotten better as the season goes on. I like the sci fi direction they are going w this now.

― AdamVania (Adam Bruneau), Monday, 23 November 2015 06:51 (nine years ago)

i watched an older one, it was about Thanksgiving and the pilgrims and indians were like Dune with the stuffing for the spice, it was pretty funny.

― AdamVania (Adam Bruneau), Monday, 23 November 2015 06:53 (nine years ago)

https://twitter.com/canthoupicture/status/669519051186679808

― 𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Thursday, 26 November 2015 01:26 (nine years ago)

As with pretty much all sweeping criticisms of South Park, that's only an accurate description of parts of the series.

― the naive cockney chorus (Simon H.), Thursday, 26 November 2015 01:33 (nine years ago)

I actually think that screed is super wrongheaded. I can't think of another mainstream show that's more about challenging assumptions.

― The Squirrel Who Punched His Dad In The Neck (Old Lunch), Thursday, 26 November 2015 02:35 (nine years ago)

lol

― Karl Rove Knausgård (jim in glasgow), Thursday, 26 November 2015 02:43 (nine years ago)

I can literally tell the point they're going to make in one of their political episodes the second the subject becomes clear.

― Karl Rove Knausgård (jim in glasgow), Thursday, 26 November 2015 02:43 (nine years ago)

Finally someone combating false empathy with false satire

― AdamVania (Adam Bruneau), Thursday, 26 November 2015 05:56 (nine years ago)

the political content is edgy weak tea garbage

― AdamVania (Adam Bruneau), Thursday, 26 November 2015 05:58 (nine years ago)

Siro ‏@SkeletonSiro 17h17 hours ago

@canthoupicture @Pafiume I mean, I used to watch South Park a lot and there used to be episodes like "Cartman wants to go to a restaurant"

^^^ still one of my favorite ever episodes of tv

― denies the existence of dark matter (difficult listening hour), Thursday, 26 November 2015 07:44 (nine years ago)

oh, man! cliff divers!

― denies the existence of dark matter (difficult listening hour), Thursday, 26 November 2015 07:44 (nine years ago)

yeah lol casa bonita is my fav episode too

― tpp, Thursday, 26 November 2015 07:51 (nine years ago)

A bit more rational conversation on the reddit thread where that post was originally stolen from.

https://www.reddit.com/r/circlebroke/comments/3tsd5o/south_park_is_written_by_reddit/?limit=500

I'm actually enjoying this season quite a lot - yes, the gentrification plot is a bit broad brushed but the absurdity still works; the abandonment of various parts of the town chasing the new $. And ok, that allows the lazy hanging of Yelp reviewers off it but isn't that the sort of thing they've always done?

PC Principal is a bit of a one dimensional idea, but that frat boys have been pretending to be feminists just to get laid has been around as long as... who was that Asian guy, Mark something? Had LJ posts about girls he was at college with that were obviously him just trying to get into their pants? But frankly it's all been worth it for when he can't decide whether Jimmy's allowed to say retarded or not.

I think the overall Garrison runs for President thing is weak, and continuing to assert Caitlin Jenner was DUI at the time of the car crash is tenuous at best (although that does seem to be the only point they're making about her). Not sure where the 'Jimmy can see adverts' plot is going.

C'mon though, the ep where the kids are playing at ninjas and everybody else sees them as Daesh and the ep about Tweek/Craig yaoi are exactly the sort of 'kids do innocuous shit with real-life parallels' stories that the commenters there are claiming don't exist any more.

― suffeeciant attreebution (aldo), Thursday, 26 November 2015 08:37 (nine years ago)

i stopped watching this season with that Yelp episode. i don't even like Yelp, it was just so tiresome to sit through

― Nhex, Thursday, 26 November 2015 09:15 (nine years ago)

It was, but I don't think it was atypical. There's probably been an ep like that every season.

― suffeeciant attreebution (aldo), Thursday, 26 November 2015 09:19 (nine years ago)

you're definitely right, but i guess i picked a bad time to try to get back into the show. but what am i saying, this basically happens every couple of seasons

― Nhex, Thursday, 26 November 2015 09:28 (nine years ago)

Haha yeah, the ziplining ep.

― suffeeciant attreebution (aldo), Thursday, 26 November 2015 09:41 (nine years ago)

Oh no college students acting a certain way only to get laid? Thanks to Matt and Trey for pointing out the 'hypocrisy' of this. As if they never use their cachet as cultural jesters for personal gain.

My main issue is the one-dimensional comedy of the frat. Its a funny idea at first but given the huge range of current event stories involving batshit frats I was hoping they would do more w them than just turn them into decades old right wing strawmen. There were tons pf scandals involving frat this year. Its like they ignored all this possible material in favor of remaking PCU.

― AdamVania (Adam Bruneau), Thursday, 26 November 2015 14:38 (nine years ago)

unsurprised that a tldr screencap generates 1000 twitter interactions from liberal arts college undergrads who hate being confronted by ideas that conflict with their worldview. as long as the stories are still funny and interesting (which they are), and if they can still get people this upset, then by all accounts they're doing it right. south park is supposed to piss people off. there's no such thing as a person who agrees with every opinion from all 250+ episodes of this show.

― billstevejim, Friday, 27 November 2015 06:38 (nine years ago)

there's no such thing as a person who agrees with every opinion from all 250+ episodes of this show.

you haven't spent much time on reddit huh

― qualx, Friday, 27 November 2015 07:27 (nine years ago)

xpost No kidding. They ride a dumb point too hard and I roll my eyes and wait til they hit another nail on the head. And it's often fairly clear that they themselves aren't espousing a particular viewpoint because they really believe it but because they're trying to get a rise out of someone(s).

(I spend zero time on reddit, myself.)

― The Squirrel Who Punched His Dad In The Neck (Old Lunch), Friday, 27 November 2015 07:33 (nine years ago)

i don't hate sp, i watched it all the time growing up but there is a serious subset of guys (almost always) (who i grew up alongside, watching the same episodes) who basically just seemed to let sp fill in their opinions for them on everything they didn't have a personal stake in and some things they did. this sounds dramatic but it's a real thing: there have always been dudes who have seemed sort of scared to disagree with it. i was probably at that point at age 15-16, which granted was a time with a lot fewer eps and internal contradictions. but i still see it with guys my age, coworkers even in their fucking 30s. it's used as a trump card in arguments still, all the time, especially in nerd hives like reddit, and there's never anything of actual substance being brought up when it's used. it usually just sounds like "dude, you know you're disagreeing with south park, right?"

it isn't adherence to a single overall philosophy but literally the conclusions of individual episodes. sp doesn't have an overall consistent philosophy outside of 'if there are two extremes then the truth is in the middle' and 'if you stray too far from the middle you are at the very least embarrassing and probably bad.' which is how you get episodes that appear to be on different sides of climate change, when they're really just both on the side of not caring too much either way. i think that screencapped post is generally otm there. summing up their philosophy as a matter of 'coolness' isn't far enough, and i don't think there's any reason to call it libertarian though.

it's a fucking stupid philosophy that's really really easy for people who already don't give a shit to adapt, and it's the most general philosophy i can see that works across the majority of places like reddit, where posts making the same exact point will frequently get voted to the top and the bottom because one of them used a word that was a teensy bit too strong. out of the idk 75-100? purely political/not casa bonita eps i've watched i can probably count on one hand the number that didn't in some way amount to that? it's why the one with the mormon family was my favorite. it was so refreshing that they actually ended an episode with "the mormon family is actually nice." that actually seemed brave by their standards.

it isn't sp's fault really (other than for being completely idiotic and drained for resources 90% of the time), it's just a weird unexamined behavior men seem to have towards comedy as the end-all authority on Things (i was gonna say "young men" but fuck if boomer dads haven't been doing this with hicks and carlin all their lives). you see it with louis ck nowadays, they can acknowledge that it's all jokes but they still don't want to be seen disagreeing with him. it doesn't mean sp is off the hook from criticism, even sweeping generalizations (are people even allowed to criticize a show with 250+ eps without being dismissed as too generalized?), and "satire is supposed to piss people off" is a shit defense you can use literally any time anyone criticizes satire you like.

that's my spiel. i do spend an uncomfortable amount of time hatereading reddit.

― qualx, Friday, 27 November 2015 08:16 (nine years ago)

adapt = adopt

― qualx, Friday, 27 November 2015 08:19 (nine years ago)

and if they can still get people this upset, then by all accounts they're doing it right

So it is basically a win-win. If they still make a weak episode they can point to the criticism of it as a weak episode and say "Oh look we are upsetting people, satire achieved".

― AdamVania (Adam Bruneau), Friday, 27 November 2015 14:44 (nine years ago)

xpost Yes, anytime someone treats a cultural artifact as if it's espousing inviolable truth, the problem always lies with that someone rather than with the cultural artifact. I honestly don't even know how you could do that with this show since they contradict themselves all the time.

I don't personally subscribe to the "pissing people off = success" viewpoint. It's awfully easy to be offensive for the sake of causing offense.

― The Squirrel Who Punched His Dad In The Neck (Old Lunch), Friday, 27 November 2015 17:07 (nine years ago)

Pissing people off is a byproduct of their success, which is making a very popular TV show and getting paid very well to do it

― MONKEY had been BUMMED by the GHOST of the late prancing paedophile (darraghmac), Friday, 27 November 2015 17:51 (nine years ago)

"dude, you know you're disagreeing with south park, right?"

haha. This is amazing. I actually wanna hear someone say this so I can laugh in their face. Strangely enough, this is exactly the kind of blind allegiance that they're laughing at.

I don't even think Matt & Trey expect people to agree with everything they say, other than that there's room in this world for more than one perspective. You can call it "centered" or "in the middle" if you want, but they people they're really attacking are those who side with the extremes and don't allow any other discussion - those who say you either agree or you're ignorant. Are they contradicting themselves or just putting the word out there that there's more than one side of every story?

― billstevejim, Friday, 27 November 2015 18:14 (nine years ago)

Ah, standing up against those who don't allow for any discussion. Who are these people who don't allow any discussion? Do u think they watch South Park?

― AdamVania (Adam Bruneau), Friday, 27 November 2015 18:37 (nine years ago)

Looks to me like those are among those who are complaining in the Twitter link from earlier.

― billstevejim, Friday, 27 November 2015 19:11 (nine years ago)

*the first "those" should be "they"

― billstevejim, Friday, 27 November 2015 19:13 (nine years ago)

complaining on twitter = public discussion

― AdamVania (Adam Bruneau), Friday, 27 November 2015 19:17 (nine years ago)

I loved South Park when I was younger and dumber and I still usually enjoy it on the rare occasions when I tune in to new episodes. But that "screed" is at least 80% OTM. The show's been pushing its creators' entitled frat-boy libertarianism for a whole generation, and I am dead certain that it's caused real-world damage.

― Futuristic Bow Wow (thewufs), Friday, 27 November 2015 22:08 (nine years ago)

New season is great, fuck the haters

― bricc baby hitlo (Whiney G. Weingarten), Friday, 27 November 2015 22:42 (nine years ago)

they contradict themselves all the time

that and being funny a decent % of the time are the major saving graces

― the naive cockney chorus (Simon H.), Saturday, 28 November 2015 00:54 (nine years ago)

how dare this comedy show not challenge my assumptions!

― bricc baby hitlo (Whiney G. Weingarten), Saturday, 28 November 2015 04:36 (nine years ago)

"This cartoon at no point challenges its idiot reddit fanbase to think outside their preconcieved opinions oh well better watch my prestige tv comedies louie and master of none which appeal to me since i like to think the characters are exactly like me"

― bricc baby hitlo (Whiney G. Weingarten), Saturday, 28 November 2015 04:38 (nine years ago)

lol whiney i literally compared sp to louis ck in terms of reddit fanboyism

the only tv i've actually watched this year is uh wrestling. and daredevil if that was this year. but i hate to challenge your assumptions of me based on literally a single post about one tv show

― qualx, Saturday, 28 November 2015 06:36 (nine years ago)

that entire point was in response to bjs's assertion that sp doesn't have a fanbase of people who seek to agree with its giant shitpile of positions on things, and that that somehow means it can't be criticized or something

i don't want to hold a fanbase against it but yeah if matt/trey really don't want people trying to use them as a moral compass they've done a pretty shitty job preventing it

― qualx, Saturday, 28 November 2015 06:41 (nine years ago)

They're responsible for other people utilizing a cartoon as a moral compass?

― The Squirrel Who Punched His Dad In The Neck (Old Lunch), Saturday, 28 November 2015 15:03 (nine years ago)

They've consistently been moralizing scolds via Kyle and Stan but have also reveled in being Cartman

― Philip Nunez, Saturday, 28 November 2015 15:24 (nine years ago)

Haven't we all tho

Haven't we all

― MONKEY had been BUMMED by the GHOST of the late prancing paedophile (darraghmac), Saturday, 28 November 2015 17:44 (nine years ago)

I've never heard anyone outright say something like "dude, you know you're disagreeing with south park, right?", but I feel like plenty of people let South Park subconsciously bully away any opposing viewpoints given the way it exaggerates positions with cartoony extremes. I mean, it IS a cartoon that relies on cartoony-ness for humor, so sometimes it's hard to say whether they believe every position is as ridiculous as they're portraying it to be, or whether they're relying on taking every position to ridiculous levels simply so their cartoon show is funny. I guess this can present some problems when viewers are adopting a position they otherwise haven't cared to research beyond the wacky by necessity caricatures on SP.

― Evan, Saturday, 28 November 2015 17:46 (nine years ago)

a lot of the criticism of them seems to boil down to "they have different politics than I do and I'm concerned"

― Mordy, Saturday, 28 November 2015 17:49 (nine years ago)

― bricc baby hitlo (Whiney G. Weingarten), Saturday, 28 November 2015 17:58 (nine years ago)

and a lot of the defense of them boils down to "they have the same politics as i do and you're being an ~sjw~ (or whatever the equivalent pejorative was in 1998)" what's your point?

show frequently taking political stances is politically polarizing, more at 11

― qualx, Saturday, 28 November 2015 18:06 (nine years ago)

lol u watch south park

― Ta-Peepee Poopes (hunangarage), Saturday, 28 November 2015 18:07 (nine years ago)

xp nah

Defence boils down to its a cartoon wgaf what their politics are

― MONKEY had been BUMMED by the GHOST of the late prancing paedophile (darraghmac), Saturday, 28 November 2015 19:38 (nine years ago)

Simpsons did mob mentality political humor better 20 years ago anyways.

― AdamVania (Adam Bruneau), Saturday, 28 November 2015 19:48 (nine years ago)

bjs's assertion that sp doesn't have a fanbase of people who seek to agree with its giant shitpile of positions on things

That's not really what I said but ok.

― billstevejim, Saturday, 28 November 2015 19:52 (nine years ago)

One of the more consistent perspectives of the show is that people telling other people what to do/say/think/feel is gross. Yes, they take that to doofy libertarian extremes at times, but I'm also pretty sure that's an indication that Parker & Stone don't expect anyone to believe what they personally believe. I certainly don't subscribe to their politics and I disagree with them plenty but I still think the show is (mostly) funny and that they make a good point at least as often as they make one that I think is super dumb. I kinda don't need them to sync up completely with my perspective because I'm not casting a ballot for either of them, y'know?

In those moments when they stray the furthest from my own political leanings, they remind me of that golden era when republicans weren't criminally insane and you could disagree civilly with someone on the other end of the spectrum and still maintain some mutual respect at the end of the day. Despite identifying as such, I have to laugh at their frequent depiction of liberals as ineffectual douches who can't cope with viewpoints that dissent from their own because many of the show's critics (beyond questions of whether the show is at all funny) demonstrate that there's often a kernel of truth in that depiction.

― The Squirrel Who Punched His Dad In The Neck (Old Lunch), Sunday, 29 November 2015 06:31 (nine years ago)

"and what would tom brady say if he was caught shoplifting?"

"everyone shoplifts, why are you coming down on me?"

― Treeship, Saturday, 12 December 2015 13:46 (nine years ago)

nine months pass...

I haven't found recent South Park very funny the few times I watched but I'm really curious what they're going to do because it seems like there's more stuff than ever to make fun of. Not sure their type of satire is very effective though.

― Robert Adam Gilmour, Tuesday, 13 September 2016 16:25 (nine years ago)

There was the one recently that featured Mr. Garrison being the vessel for Trump satire, seemed like they were somewhat otm but I don't remember any quotes or scenes clearly atm

― Evan, Tuesday, 13 September 2016 16:28 (nine years ago)

They're probably going to tackle Trump again. I can't imagine they'll ignore him. Trump was born to have photos of his face animated like Hussein and Mel Gibson.

― Robert Adam Gilmour, Tuesday, 13 September 2016 16:42 (nine years ago)

Last season was so good

― Whiney G. Weingarten, Tuesday, 13 September 2016 16:43 (nine years ago)

So it's on tomorrow night?

― Robert Adam Gilmour, Tuesday, 13 September 2016 16:45 (nine years ago)

"This town is changing so fast, everybody wan be PC, be updated. It's like I'm a reric. A rost reric from another time. You know? I dunno, sometime I feel like I outstayed my welcome. Is just how I feel, you know?"

― Whiney G. Weingarten, Tuesday, 13 September 2016 16:49 (nine years ago)

yes can't await more brilliant satire on how everyone is too PC these days. thank god we have South Park to ask these hard questions.

― AdamVania (Adam Bruneau), Tuesday, 13 September 2016 17:05 (nine years ago)

Yeah, that's exactly what that scene is about, Adam

― Whiney G. Weingarten, Tuesday, 13 September 2016 17:10 (nine years ago)

The game was excellent(and turned out to be far more based on Earthbound than expected), and I'm curious what they'll do with the sequel.

― Sentient animated cat gif (kingfish), Tuesday, 13 September 2016 17:14 (nine years ago)

what scene? that's a running theme through the entire season

― AdamVania (Adam Bruneau), Tuesday, 13 September 2016 17:44 (nine years ago)

Glad to know your interpretation of the dirty cartoon show is as nuanced as a Milo Yiannopolis stan's

― Whiney G. Weingarten, Tuesday, 13 September 2016 17:47 (nine years ago)

I've seen so many people call that season interesting and thoughtful, and I've never seen anyone say anything thoughtful and interesting about it. So I'm curious, what is the nuanced take, whiney?

― Frederik B, Tuesday, 13 September 2016 18:16 (nine years ago)

There are ads out for the new episode, looks like they're taking on police violence/Colin Kaepernick's national anthem protest.

I laughed at loud at the first clip, so I guess that's a good sign.

― I know hoes that know Ali Farka Toure (voodoo chili), Tuesday, 13 September 2016 18:28 (nine years ago)

Fred et al

South Park a TV show whose very DNA is built on being "offensive," and now society is at a point where the creators have no choice but to acknowledge that the world is changing — and possibly changing into something that has actually no place for outdated "edgy" or "punching down" humor like City Wok guy or w/e.

I think, yes, PC Principal as a character obviously taunts the shrillness and hypocrisy of Arthur Chu types, but the message is that "pc principle" is here to stay, so instead of fighting it, you better learn to work under the new rules or be a relic of another time. Parker and Stone aren't "fighting the SJWs," they're trying to figure out their place in a new world that obviously, and correctly, is bending towards many of their ideas.

― Whiney G. Weingarten, Tuesday, 13 September 2016 18:41 (nine years ago)

The episode last season where the kids were playing ninjas and the town thinks they are Isis was pretty good.

― earlnash, Tuesday, 13 September 2016 18:46 (nine years ago)

Whiney, that's a good explanation. Thanks.

― Frederik B, Tuesday, 13 September 2016 18:52 (nine years ago)

Butters as a freedom fighter/folk hero for Mexican immigrants named "Mantequilla" was pretty funny, esp when I finally remembered what "Mantequilla" meant

― Sentient animated cat gif (kingfish), Tuesday, 13 September 2016 18:56 (nine years ago)

i think they're pretty unapologetically anti-pc wrt comedy/their show

matt stone:

"Political correctness" — I feel like that's becoming a catch-all term for just shit that you don't like. I don't think I probably agree with Donald Trump, but we did a whole bit about political correctness last year. We've been interested in that debate for a long time. But not everything is political correctness gone mad. Sometimes you just shouldn't say something. And there's a huge difference between what can be said in a cartoon or through the mouths of fiction, and what somebody who's going for elected office should say. Those are two different standards of political correctness. But I do think there's a legitimate ... comedians, especially, that's probably where we identify and have the most sympathy with anti-p.c. forces, is within comedy. Not talking to people or trying to get elected. That's a different standard. There's shit that you shouldn't say running for president that Cartman should totally be allowed to say within a satirical cartoon. When I see a politician or a Donald Trump say "political correctness," I'm like, "That's not the same shit that we're talking about in the writers' room. There's satire over here in cartoons, and you're standing onstage in a suit and you want me to vote for you." Different standard, you know?

― ælərdaɪs (jim in vancouver), Tuesday, 13 September 2016 19:00 (nine years ago)

Did you not read the fourth and fifth sentences of that?

― Whiney G. Weingarten, Tuesday, 13 September 2016 19:04 (nine years ago)

Anyway, I talked about this a little when I interviewed Smigel since he wasn't pleased that this clip was embraced by leftys on some "look how stupid Trump supporters are"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6MubunsD-7g

And this video was embraced by rightys on some "look at how pathetic liberals kids are"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j556MWGVVqI

The humor in the last clip is ultimately apolitical — and Triumph himself is the Archie Bunker/Cartman button-pushing asshole character here. But so many people REALLY WANT TO BELIEVE he's "sticking it" to the SJWs. Like, the internet machine of "JOHN OLIVER/SAMANTHA BEE EVISCERATES [conservative talking point]" doesn't allow for the nuance that Triumph and South Park have, where they can see the absurdity and humor in some of our changing society, but aren't actually dismissing it outright.

― Whiney G. Weingarten, Tuesday, 13 September 2016 19:06 (nine years ago)

I watched this summary a while ago and it made the season look a lot more interesting to me.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MG7y8J0DXhU

I still don't want to go back and watch it but I might go for this new one.

― Robert Adam Gilmour, Tuesday, 13 September 2016 19:07 (nine years ago)

Did you not read the fourth and fifth sentences of that?

― Whiney G. Weingarten, Tuesday, September 13, 2016 12:04 PM (three minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

yes, but i also read the part where he says "But I do think there's a legitimate ... comedians, especially, that's probably where we identify and have the most sympathy with anti-p.c. forces, is within comedy", im not claiming that they're anti-pc extremists or alt-right, but broadly you can characterize them as being anti-pc.

― ælərdaɪs (jim in vancouver), Tuesday, 13 September 2016 19:10 (nine years ago)

didn't smigel say trump has always been personally cordial to him?

― Philip Nunez, Tuesday, 13 September 2016 19:11 (nine years ago)

xpost, Sure, but there was enough in the show to lead me to believe that the season itself wasn't totally anti-PC

And, yeah, he said Trump was a professional

― Whiney G. Weingarten, Tuesday, 13 September 2016 19:12 (nine years ago)

I will post the interview, I am happy with it: http://www.rollingstone.com/tv/features/triumph-the-insult-comic-dog-how-to-poop-on-trump-politics-w436126

― Whiney G. Weingarten, Tuesday, 13 September 2016 19:13 (nine years ago)

Also, the Triumph talks to young voters bit is one of the most hilarious things I've seen all year if you haven't seen it

― Whiney G. Weingarten, Tuesday, 13 September 2016 19:14 (nine years ago)

Did you not read the fourth and fifth sentences of that?

― Whiney G. Weingarten, Tuesday, September 13, 2016 12:04 PM (three minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

― ælərdaɪs (jim in vancouver), Tuesday, September 13, 2016 3:10 PM (one minute ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

He is anti-pc specifically within the realm of comedy. Not exactly broad?

― Evan, Tuesday, 13 September 2016 19:17 (nine years ago)

how strange that Matt Stone would have a totally self-interested/self-absorbed take on the subject, who'dathunkit

― Οὖτις, Tuesday, 13 September 2016 19:22 (nine years ago)

xp. broad characterization is an English language idiom meaning an inexact, though mainly accurate, labeling of something.

― ælərdaɪs (jim in vancouver), Tuesday, 13 September 2016 19:24 (nine years ago)

the world is changing — and possibly changing into something that has actually no place for outdated "edgy" or "punching down" humor like City Wok guy or w/e.

clearly the world isn't changing into that because we are being inundated commercials for the 20th season of this very profitable show. you kind of do have to play Trump-style pretend to imagine otherwise.

― AdamVania (Adam Bruneau), Tuesday, 13 September 2016 19:49 (nine years ago)

remember the good old days when City Wok guy was totally hilarious and not disgustingly racist? me neither.

― Οὖτις, Tuesday, 13 September 2016 19:55 (nine years ago)

I mean, I do think City Wok guy would have been received a lot differently if he came out in the thinkpiece era instead of 2002.

― Whiney G. Weingarten, Tuesday, 13 September 2016 20:53 (nine years ago)

christ these dudes are so fucking boring

― serge thoroughgoods (will), Tuesday, 13 September 2016 21:03 (nine years ago)

The Simpsons thread has some interesting discussion about this sort of thing, the strange disconnect between everything in Springfield staying the same and the fact that they keep adding modern references that fundamentally change the characters (i.e. Homer going from a baby boomer to a millennial). SP revels in this kind of thing and doesn't really care about any continuity whatsoever which IMO is why the show is still pretty good, it's all Poochie/Frank Grimes episodes to some degree

― frogbs, Tuesday, 13 September 2016 21:30 (nine years ago)

I've had great times with South Park but the last several times I watched the show I feel like the episodes drag and they milk jokes for way too long and a lot of the scenes fall flat. If it was 15 minutes long I think it'd be a superior show.

I'm not sure the topical route was the best thing for them. A lot of the best episodes are just good little stories. I know it's difficult and "Simpsons did it!" but they've got a lot more freedom to mix things up and make major changes than Simpsons does. I know Cartman is kind of a useful character to represent a lot of shitty people but I'd like it if they got rid of him. They could change the characters they focus on more and get new ones.

― Robert Adam Gilmour, Tuesday, 13 September 2016 21:54 (nine years ago)

going almost 100% topical definitely helped the show keep alive though. I mean this show has had so many "jump the shark" moments that I'm not sure what else they could do.

― frogbs, Tuesday, 13 September 2016 22:16 (nine years ago)

they are big star trek fans, right? why not have them do nothing but star trek fan fiction for the remainder of the series?

― Philip Nunez, Tuesday, 13 September 2016 22:21 (nine years ago)

Episode was all over the place tonight. South Park is better when they focus on one issue, this one tried to tie together all the big events of the past few months/past year without telling a 22 minute story.

Also, besides a few Cartman moments it was short on the lols.

― I know hoes that know Ali Farka Toure (voodoo chili), Thursday, 15 September 2016 03:58 (nine years ago)

yeah kinda meh

member berries were funny though. wish the whole episode was about that. could really care less about the psychology of internet trolls.

― AdamVania (Adam Bruneau), Thursday, 15 September 2016 18:25 (nine years ago)

I dig how they finally figured out that they could do more ludicrous stories featuring Randy as they aged into him.

― Sentient animated cat gif (kingfish), Thursday, 15 September 2016 18:41 (nine years ago)

so are they out of ideas and now just pandering 100% to redditors, what is going on?

― AdamVania (Adam Bruneau), Thursday, 22 September 2016 18:23 (nine years ago)

I guess that's an interpretation?

― a serious and fascinating fartist (Simon H.), Thursday, 22 September 2016 20:48 (nine years ago)

i thought people take social media too seriously was the theme of last season. they are doing this joke again? lazy.

― AdamVania (Adam Bruneau), Thursday, 22 September 2016 21:55 (nine years ago)

i liked last night's episode. the boston scene was pretty great. i do worry that they're falling a bit too far down the rabbit hole of internet opinions but then again if ever there was a year to do it...

― maura, Friday, 23 September 2016 01:42 (nine years ago)

Only saw the first ep of the season so far. Disappointed that they're pretending this election (via their universe's version of it) is just like any other election. But that's just me.

― Evan, Friday, 23 September 2016 16:40 (nine years ago)

yeah the "both candidates are awful" trope seems awfully lazy considering that every yahoo comment makes the same point over + over again

― Mordy, Friday, 23 September 2016 16:43 (nine years ago)

Haven't seen the episode yet but, eh, that's their thing. Every politician is equally awful, if for different and basically pointless reasons. Douche v Turd, etc. It's just that the pathetic media narrative at this specific time has synced up with their general viewpoint in that regard, is all.

― Suddenly...Soup! (Old Lunch), Friday, 23 September 2016 17:10 (nine years ago)

Like they're having fun portraying the cartoony ridiculousness of Trump in their cartoonish way, and it's perfectly fine that they choose to portray Hillary as the typical "turd", but then they step back and make fun of people who have strong opinions about either because "every four years people get all riled up" about the "typical" turd vs. douche. But that just seems to be in direct contrast to the absurdity of Trump that they clearly recognize as being significant and quite distinct from the typical douches of past elections. I don't know.

― Evan, Friday, 23 September 2016 17:12 (nine years ago)

To the extent that they have a coherent message, it often gets a little scrambled when its run through their 'every side of every issue is equally ridiculous' filter.

― Suddenly...Soup! (Old Lunch), Friday, 23 September 2016 17:17 (nine years ago)

Having Garrison/Trump acknowledge that he's out of his depth and trying to sabotage his own campaign seems to indicate they know their usual election shtick doesn't really apply this time

― a serious and fascinating fartist (Simon H.), Friday, 23 September 2016 17:17 (nine years ago)

South Park taught me that issues only have two sides, and they're both equally terrible for some reason. It's the philosophy I live by because I huffed spay paint in middle school.

― larry appleton, Friday, 23 September 2016 17:20 (nine years ago)

Right but then at the same time they make fun of Randy as the embodiment of the silly people who "don't get" how other people can possibly vote for a douche over a turd. Stan asks why every 4 years people get so upset about the choice between a douche and a turd, and Randy's only response is "WELL... because... this is AMERICA?" to underline that Randy is the dumb person here just getting wrapped up in the same ol' same ol'

― Evan, Friday, 23 September 2016 17:24 (nine years ago)

If this show provides no other social benefit, I hope it has at least occasionally forced people to consider that the beliefs they hold might actually be stupid.

― Suddenly...Soup! (Old Lunch), Friday, 23 September 2016 17:29 (nine years ago)

I would say that "giant douche vs turd sandwich" isn't exactly a WRONG characterization of this election, it's just not the MOST ACCURATE.

― Whiney G. Weingarten, Friday, 23 September 2016 17:49 (nine years ago)

No not wrong, but not the typical giant douche vs. turd sandwiches we're used to every election cycle.

― Evan, Friday, 23 September 2016 17:55 (nine years ago)

the whole point of the douche/turd dichotomy is to reinforce the view that it *doesnt matter* who is President. which is an absolutely indefensible/flabbergasting thing to think after stuff like the Dubya years

― Οὖτις, Friday, 23 September 2016 18:09 (nine years ago)

I don't think that's what they were going for but I can see why people would take it that way.

― Robert Adam Gilmour, Friday, 23 September 2016 18:10 (nine years ago)

that's how i took it

― Mordy, Friday, 23 September 2016 18:32 (nine years ago)

one month passes...

I don't enjoy the show much at all but it does seem like they were strongly favouring Hillary

― Robert Adam Gilmour, Thursday, 10 November 2016 01:18 (eight years ago)

Absolutely.

Curious about how they'll handle the Tr*mp win.

― a serious and fascinating fartist (Simon H.), Thursday, 10 November 2016 01:49 (eight years ago)

By rewriting the entire ep from the sound of it.

http://www.avclub.com/article/south-park-was-forced-re-write-tonights-episode-af-245669

The current season of South Park has been openly political, putting a reluctant Mr. Garrison in the place of America’s new President-Elect. But descriptions for tonight’s episode previously referred to it as “The Very First Gentleman,” with a promo showing Bill Clinton preparing to visit South Park Elementary. Those have now been pulled, and tonight’s episode—now titled “Oh, Jeez”—carries this promo instead

― (rocketcat) 🚀🐱 👑🐟 (kingfish), Thursday, 10 November 2016 04:59 (eight years ago)

one month passes...

this season's pretty good

― Treeship, Monday, 12 December 2016 05:58 (eight years ago)

i liked how mr. garrison's rallies were like stand up comedy sets

― Treeship, Monday, 12 December 2016 06:00 (eight years ago)

there are lot of interesting ideas that had promise but have either lost steam and deflated or were completely given up. Cartman being woke sort of just gradually stops happening. the Memberberries kept hinting at some far more interesting plot than the ham-fisted commentary (them all lined up in the white house). the internet troll subplot was kinda cool but apparently that's over now and the resolution left no change in the world so it was pointless outside of some more ham-fisted commentary ("Pushing buttons is good for humanity", etc).

not that the show isn't still funny from time to time but at the start of the season it felt like they may be sacrificing humor for the serialization: even if it wasn't funny, it was going to be interesting to see where it goes. now even that is wearing thin. not only is the humor low, the serialization is aimless and not interesting.

the serialization is really hurting this show. they need to get back on that flavor of the week thing.

― AdamVania (Adam Bruneau), Monday, 12 December 2016 17:50 (eight years ago)

Did you notice the title of the finale?

This season went completely off the rails, but in a pretty interesting way. They needed time to prepare for the Trump era and they had none.

― a serious and fascinating fartist (Simon H.), Monday, 12 December 2016 18:05 (eight years ago)

don't they make these episodes in like a week

― Οὖτις, Monday, 12 December 2016 20:47 (eight years ago)

Yeah but existential crisis-inducing paradigm shifts probably take > a week to turn into animated comedy scripts, I would assume.

― The Pleasure Principal (Old Lunch), Monday, 12 December 2016 20:51 (eight years ago)

they had less than 24 hours (probably closer to 12) to adjust the election episode

― a serious and fascinating fartist (Simon H.), Monday, 12 December 2016 20:54 (eight years ago)

they had like a year and 4 months to consider it

― AdamVania (Adam Bruneau), Monday, 12 December 2016 20:59 (eight years ago)

xpost i noticed the title, honestly didn't realize it was the season finale. they resolved one plot (with another hilarious Star Wars-is-hacky joke) and left a bunch of stuff out there.

it's weird, the entire season felt like a two-parter that was half finished and stretched out for season length.

― AdamVania (Adam Bruneau), Monday, 12 December 2016 21:53 (eight years ago)

like the us election so

― loudmouth darraghmac ween (darraghmac), Monday, 12 December 2016 21:57 (eight years ago)

eight months pass...

http://kotaku.com/new-south-park-game-gets-harder-if-you-play-a-black-cha-1801944202

well this seems like it could be ... open to misinterpretation

― na (NA), Thursday, 7 September 2017 18:03 (eight years ago)

can't believe this has been on almost as long as Gunsmoke

― ice cream social justice (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 7 September 2017 18:04 (eight years ago)

New ep didn't do much for me, tho the redneck version of HUMBLE did make me laugh

― rock and roll tucci coo (voodoo chili), Friday, 15 September 2017 00:34 (eight years ago)

this show is never gonna be good again is it

― AdamVania (Adam Bruneau), Friday, 22 September 2017 14:06 (eight years ago)

last episode felt like it was for media junkies who think "Delete your account" was brilliant satire

― AdamVania (Adam Bruneau), Friday, 22 September 2017 14:07 (eight years ago)

aw i liked cartman's suicide-pop parody

― maura, Friday, 22 September 2017 16:32 (eight years ago)

Thought this was a major improvement over last week

And that cartman rap was a clear nod to that logic song

― rock and roll tucci coo (voodoo chili), Friday, 22 September 2017 16:35 (eight years ago)

last week's was so bad, outside of that great scene w Cartman surrounded by smart devices all chanting at each other. feel like they referenced that here with Tweek and all the fidget spinners.

ive come to accept the politics of this show are incoherent by design, they are just pop culture references, nothing intended. they need to focus more on the kids, kinda getting tired of Cartman's white knight thing, next episode he is going to be an annoying Climate Change guy.

― AdamVania (Adam Bruneau), Friday, 22 September 2017 16:49 (eight years ago)

they are funniest when making fun of consumerism and how these things divide the kids.

― AdamVania (Adam Bruneau), Friday, 22 September 2017 16:51 (eight years ago)

this show is never gonna be good again is it

tbf it was never that good

― Οὖτις, Friday, 22 September 2017 16:53 (eight years ago)

Imaginationland man

the red wedding console wars

― AdamVania (Adam Bruneau), Friday, 22 September 2017 16:54 (eight years ago)

i remember the movie being pretty good its been a while since ive seen it tho

― AdamVania (Adam Bruneau), Friday, 22 September 2017 16:55 (eight years ago)

I loved Tweek's song at the beginning if I'm honest.

― Thomas Gabriel Fischer does not endorse (aldo), Friday, 22 September 2017 18:10 (eight years ago)

Old park >>> new south park >>>>>>> most other things >>>>>>>>> ppl who say south park isn't good >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ppl who say south park was never good >>>>>> Hitler >>>>>>>>> centrists

― passé aggresif (darraghmac), Friday, 22 September 2017 18:20 (eight years ago)

ive come to accept the politics of this show are incoherent by design, they are just pop culture references

thank you. tell that to the alt-right thread.

tbf it was never that good

no one was talking to you.

― billstevejim, Friday, 22 September 2017 20:44 (eight years ago)

xp Cartman's 1st song was the only good part sadly.

Tweek's song at the very beginning was a good song but I didn't laugh. I was just feelin' his song.

― billstevejim, Friday, 22 September 2017 20:47 (eight years ago)

Οὖτις expunged by a non-personing

― A is for (Aimless), Friday, 22 September 2017 20:48 (eight years ago)

two months pass...

the use of 'the super bowl shuffle' on last night's episode had me on the floor

― maura, Thursday, 7 December 2017 16:49 (seven years ago)

three weeks pass...

^this! the episode with the NFL waterbears was insane. one of the funniest things they have ever done!

― AdamVania (Adam Bruneau), Saturday, 30 December 2017 21:42 (seven years ago)

five months pass...

these guys have a lot to answer for, in retrospect

― frogbs, Tuesday, 12 June 2018 18:38 (seven years ago)

Is this in reference to something specific/newsworthy or are you speaking generally.

― Evan, Tuesday, 12 June 2018 18:40 (seven years ago)

these guys have a lot to answer for, in retrospect
― frogbs, Tuesday, June 12, 2018 2:38 PM (eight minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

this is the most cornball reheated twitter opinion from people who are actually just a few funko pops away from being a normie

― we æt so many shimripl (Whiney G. Weingarten), Tuesday, 12 June 2018 18:48 (seven years ago)

shut the fuck up Whiney

― frogbs, Tuesday, 12 June 2018 18:50 (seven years ago)

me otm

South Park: Classic or Dud?

― Οὖτις, Tuesday, 12 June 2018 18:56 (seven years ago)

basically have come to the realization that this show taught my entire generation that caring about things is deeply uncool and that the truth is always somewhere in the middle, both philosophies which led us directly into the hellscape we're in today

― frogbs, Tuesday, 12 June 2018 18:58 (seven years ago)

they do exemplify the earliest stirrings of that intersection between tech nerds, libertarianism, and racism/being "offensive" as an end in istelf (4chan etc). It's no coincidence that the first people I knew who had the original Xmas card short and absolutely died laughing at it/thought it were the best thing ever were tech nerds at Burning Man in 1996.

― Οὖτις, Tuesday, 12 June 2018 19:00 (seven years ago)

Parker & Stone stink of rich chud-ism and i suspect SP is a key reason that Trump has any kind of support among people under the age of 36 at all.

― constitutional crises they fly at u face (will), Tuesday, 12 June 2018 19:14 (seven years ago)

Counterpoint: anyone with functioning critical faculties can enjoy the funny bits and tell Trey & Matt to stfu on the many occasions when it's warranted.

Which is to say that the real issue is the faulty critical faculties that might allow anyone to think it's cool to allow a crudely-animated cartoon to influence any part of their worldview.

― Not with a bang but a MAGA (Old Lunch), Tuesday, 12 June 2018 19:15 (seven years ago)

Like, I definitely share your concerns in a general sense, frogs. I just don't think SP is to blame.

― Not with a bang but a MAGA (Old Lunch), Tuesday, 12 June 2018 19:16 (seven years ago)

gotta love libertarians who think empirical science is "lol gay"

― constitutional crises they fly at u face (will), Tuesday, 12 June 2018 19:16 (seven years ago)

you don't think SP's massive success served as a model for anyone/anything?

― Οὖτις, Tuesday, 12 June 2018 19:18 (seven years ago)

Sure. But to the extent that that's true, it's because a lot of people's brains are constantly sputtering and emitting showers of sparks.

― Not with a bang but a MAGA (Old Lunch), Tuesday, 12 June 2018 19:23 (seven years ago)

if you believe people get their moral centers wholly from a single cartoon they watched as a kid then yeah knock yourself out blaming these guys

― Hazy Maze Cave (Adam Bruneau), Tuesday, 12 June 2018 19:24 (seven years ago)

The one SP moment that actually stuck with me as somewhat profound was in the n-word episode when Stan finally conceded that he didn't understand Token's experience and never fully would. Pretty much everything else has been ignorable stupidity that occasionally makes me laugh.

― Not with a bang but a MAGA (Old Lunch), Tuesday, 12 June 2018 19:25 (seven years ago)

maybe it was a little irresponsible of them to fan said sputtering showers of sparks with dynamite, imo

my position isn't as simple as "people get their moral centers wholly from a single cartoon", it's that they played a role in the broader culture which normalized and "made cool" a bunch of positions, modes of discourse, and imagery that were previously beyond the pale and relegated to the fringes.

― Οὖτις, Tuesday, 12 June 2018 19:26 (seven years ago)

they are part of a cultural strain that equated being offensive with a mark of quality in and of itself - they weren't the first to do it by any means, but they definitely served as an amplifier for it as a raison d'etre

― Οὖτις, Tuesday, 12 June 2018 19:28 (seven years ago)

white guys enjoying the privilege of being transgressive, what could go wrong

― Οὖτις, Tuesday, 12 June 2018 19:29 (seven years ago)

i can't really speak to later years of south park as i checked out over a decade ago but while i enjoyed it when it was just an offensive dumb cartoon, and i was a teenager, increasingly south park became a very political show promoting, in almost every episode, an anti-pc libertarianism, and lib-baiting.

― ( ͡☉ ͜ʖ ͡☉) (jim in vancouver), Tuesday, 12 June 2018 19:37 (seven years ago)

Parker & Stone are far from beyond criticism, but blaming a dumb cartoon for society's ills is kind of along the lines of Grisham blaming Natural Born Killers for his friend's murder.

― Not with a bang but a MAGA (Old Lunch), Tuesday, 12 June 2018 19:38 (seven years ago)

xp. although we've gotten a bit past anti-pic libertarianism now with the alt-right (though libertarianism is a gateway drug to white supremacy and fascism generally)

― ( ͡☉ ͜ʖ ͡☉) (jim in vancouver), Tuesday, 12 June 2018 19:38 (seven years ago)

if you believe people get their moral centers wholly from a single cartoon they watched as a kid then yeah knock yourself out blaming these guys

a lot of these people still watch it. it's been on for 20 years. I still catch like 3-4 episodes a year

and I dunno if "it's just a cartoon" really applies here since nearly every episode from S6 onward had a pretty overt message to it, usually something like "both sides are bad, so joke's on you if you care about anything lol"

― frogbs, Tuesday, 12 June 2018 19:41 (seven years ago)

for shame

― we æt so many shimripl (Whiney G. Weingarten), Tuesday, 12 June 2018 19:44 (seven years ago)

but blaming a dumb cartoon for society's ills

how about just blaming them for making a shitty viewpoint popular

― Οὖτις, Tuesday, 12 June 2018 19:45 (seven years ago)

xxpost Yes, but again: the only reason a dumb message like that would have any sway is because the persuaded audience's critical thinking skills are excessively eroded. There are a whole host of underlying reasons why people wind up that way.

― Not with a bang but a MAGA (Old Lunch), Tuesday, 12 June 2018 19:46 (seven years ago)

no one came out to vote for wildly unpopular presidential candidate Hilary Clinton because of of that episode where cartman pooped out of his mouth

― we æt so many shimripl (Whiney G. Weingarten), Tuesday, 12 June 2018 19:48 (seven years ago)

it's cool that you guys keep trying to move the goalposts in order to slander my POV as something other than it is, I wonder if there's a term for that

― Οὖτις, Tuesday, 12 June 2018 19:50 (seven years ago)

how about just blaming them for making a shitty viewpoint popular

― Οὖτις, Tuesday, June 12, 2018 2:45 PM (one minute ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

That's a valid criticism.

FWIW I think the advent of reality television is the scourge of the earth and has furthered even shittier viewpoints/norms among the generation in question than SP has, but I'd still argue that it's because those people were failed before reality shows came along to normalize their own particular brand of shittiness.

― Not with a bang but a MAGA (Old Lunch), Tuesday, 12 June 2018 19:50 (seven years ago)

if I wanted to similarly argue in bad faith I would sum up Whiney et al's position as "shows are not important and don't influence anything so joke's on you if you care about it"

which tbf is a very South Park-ian position

― Οὖτις, Tuesday, 12 June 2018 19:51 (seven years ago)

the key element of SP is that it's not very challenging, the lead characters are stand-ins for the creators and for the audience and it's extremely libertarian in its assuredness of its own correctness and the softness and naiveté of everyone else.

― omar little, Tuesday, 12 June 2018 19:51 (seven years ago)

There have been times where they evinced some self-crit but it's the exception.

― Simon H., Tuesday, 12 June 2018 19:53 (seven years ago)

I dunno, man, I'd just say: my worldview isn't influenced by this dumb cartoon, your worldview clearly isn't influenced by this dumb cartoon, and to the extent that others' worldviews are influenced by this dumb cartoon, it's worth considering what underlying factors are informing that difference (I'd argue that any parents letting their kids watch it are irresponsible as fuck if they aren't also providing some education in critical thinking to offset the dumb ideas).

― Not with a bang but a MAGA (Old Lunch), Tuesday, 12 June 2018 19:56 (seven years ago)

there isn't any sole factor though as someone who worked on about 25-30 different reality TV shows i pretty much agree w/what you said above, which is one reason i quit (the other being the election tbqf.)

― omar little, Tuesday, 12 June 2018 19:58 (seven years ago)

fuck this but old lunch otm

― laurel or hardyhearin (darraghmac), Tuesday, 12 June 2018 20:02 (seven years ago)

Think South Park warping the mind of teens might be an overplayed opinion, but for those who were always inclined to adopt its privileged libitarian politics it certainly reinforced their world view and coached them in what became the 4chan style of debate - the "u mad bro?" discourse where who cares loses. Don't think it's a simple case of changing minds, more that its general attitude is fucking everywhere now, and it is polluting debates with no end in sight.

I hate the morals at the end of the stories more than anything (the dicks / pussies / assholes speech in Team America worst of all) but they seem to have had less of an obvious influence.

― mfktz (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Tuesday, 12 June 2018 20:22 (seven years ago)

no one came out to vote for wildly unpopular presidential candidate Hilary Clinton because of of that episode where cartman pooped out of his mouth

they did have a very popular episode that mocked people who cared enough to show up to the polls even though neither candidate was absolutely perfect

― frogbs, Tuesday, 12 June 2018 21:17 (seven years ago)

that episode certainly mocked the limp candidates we were given but i don't remember it mocking voters

― we æt so many shimripl (Whiney G. Weingarten), Tuesday, 12 June 2018 21:23 (seven years ago)

yeah that episode also aired in October 2016. i guess they brainwashed people in the matter of a few weeks.

the idea that people are these empty vessels until they receive programming from media is absurd. it is one of the big modern myths. "if only people watched the right tv shows they would think right"... sure

― Hazy Maze Cave (Adam Bruneau), Tuesday, 12 June 2018 21:47 (seven years ago)

keep fightin that strawman

you'll beat him one day

― Οὖτις, Tuesday, 12 June 2018 21:49 (seven years ago)

I'm talking about the P. Diddy "Vote or Die" one that I still hear getting quoted all the time

not saying that SP brainwashed people into being idiot libertarians but it certainly seemed to have a knack for validating shitty viewpoints

― frogbs, Tuesday, 12 June 2018 21:51 (seven years ago)

generally speaking, here's how things like South Park (or any number of other shitty cultural products like, say, Kanye records) influence the broader public discourse: 1) popular product espouses specious viewpoint, ostensibly for laffs and/or shock value, 2) other, lesser venues pick it up and run with it (internet memes, comedians, ripoffs, public figures looking to make hay out of it, commentators expressing shock/taking it seriously, etc.), 3) audience absorbs specious viewpoint as just being part of the discourse around particular issue, 4) stupider portions of audience take specious viewpoint seriously, 5) stupider portion of audience seeks out similar/related specious viewpoints, becomes even stupider.

if this all sounds craaaaaaaazy bear in mind our current President

― Οὖτις, Tuesday, 12 June 2018 22:02 (seven years ago)

OL is correct that there's lots of other things leading up to the endpoint in that scenario besides "shitty TV show says shitty thing" but it's all a rich tapestry, and I don't see any reason to give a free critical pass to a show that espouses shitty things. esp THIS show, who's whole reason for existence is, again, white guys getting off on consequence-free transgression.

― Οὖτις, Tuesday, 12 June 2018 22:06 (seven years ago)

and yet cartman being all “come at me bro” and sobbing when he’s weakly hit = still the best critique of how republicans operate in the public sphere that i’ve seen

― maura, Tuesday, 12 June 2018 22:11 (seven years ago)

feel like marketing and the idea of being on tv turning cartman into a heroic figure blunt a lot of the most interesting aspects of his character. it’s probably impossible to have any character on any marketed show have a more critical than heroic thrust tbh.

feel like the rise of the tv “antihero”* has also made a lot of shitty behavior by shitheads something to aspire to, even more so than in the scarface/godfather era

*lol male showrunners

― maura, Tuesday, 12 June 2018 22:14 (seven years ago)

But...validating how? And for whom? Is the complaint ultimately about SP's popularity? Y'all keep brushing right up against points I would agree with you on (has a knack for popularizing shitty viewpoints, yes) but not quite getting there.

At any rate, it's a show that I've enjoyed and laughed at and been pissed off at but that I ultimately won't defend too strongly because I do agree that a lot of the perspectives as presented are irresponsible/antisocial and I wouldn't recommend it to anyone. But although I recognize the knee-jerk desire to demonize creative endeavors I believe to be harmful, ultimately I have to acknowledge that they only have the power to harm people with insufficient critical defenses. That those people exist in ever-greater numbers seems undeniable and is greatly alarming, but the problem of people being swayed by the dumb ideas of a dumb cartoon is a problem that exists wholly independently of SP (or the thousands of other bad idea outlets).

(Also if you just want to argue that people as a species are generally incapable of reckoning responsibly with the fruits of their creative labor, I would totally sign off on that.)

― Not with a bang but a MAGA (Old Lunch), Tuesday, 12 June 2018 22:15 (seven years ago)

xxxpost to frogs

― Not with a bang but a MAGA (Old Lunch), Tuesday, 12 June 2018 22:15 (seven years ago)

Also if you just want to argue that people as a species are generally incapable of reckoning responsibly with the fruits of their creative labor, I would totally sign off on that.)

otm

― maura, Tuesday, 12 June 2018 22:18 (seven years ago)

We've seen every episode of South Park ever since it started airing. The only people who would be that greatly affected by a cartoon with an inability to question the characters and writing already had pre-existing issues. I think about the Kyle's dad being a well known internet troll a lot.

― Yerac, Tuesday, 12 June 2018 22:20 (seven years ago)

Gah, I feel old now remembering when the xmas short came out and thinking it was amazing.

― Yerac, Tuesday, 12 June 2018 22:21 (seven years ago)

and yet cartman being all “come at me bro” and sobbing when he’s weakly hit = still the best critique of how republicans operate in the public sphere that i’ve seen

― maura, Wednesday, June 13, 2018 12:11 AM (four minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Really? If that's the best critique of republicans operating in the public sphere, then good luck usa, because you are in dire need of a proper critique of said republicans in said public sphere. SP isn't anywhere near properly criticizing republicans. It's a republican show at heart.

― lbi's life of limitless european glamour (Le Bateau Ivre), Tuesday, 12 June 2018 22:21 (seven years ago)

We've seen every episode of South Park ever since it started airing. The only people who would be that greatly affected by a cartoon with an inability to question the characters and writing already had pre-existing issues. I think about the Kyle's dad being a well known internet troll a lot.

yeah me too, for sure. but i do think there’s a lot of learned-behavior psychology going on. see also “not here to make friends.” (whatever ills sp is responsible for, reality tv is way worse.)

― maura, Tuesday, 12 June 2018 22:22 (seven years ago)

The only people who would be that greatly affected by a cartoon with an inability to question the characters and writing

once more for the cheap seats: no one is saying this

― Οὖτις, Tuesday, 12 June 2018 22:24 (seven years ago)

and yet cartman being all “come at me bro” and sobbing when he’s weakly hit = still the best critique of how republicans operate in the public sphere that i’ve seen

― maura, Wednesday, June 13, 2018 12:11 AM (four minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Really? If that's the best critique of republicans operating in the public sphere, then good luck usa, because you are in dire need of a proper critique of said republicans in said public sphere. SP isn't anywhere near properly criticizing republicans. It's a republican show at heart.

if you can’t see how that critique matches up to ~the discourse~ and the way republican fee-fees are treated like delicate flowers idk how to help you. of course the us is in need of a proper critique of republicans in the public sphere! both sides obsessiveness and whataboutism have taken over.

― maura, Tuesday, 12 June 2018 22:24 (seven years ago)

xpost But yeah, Old Lunch otm and yes to reality tv being way worse.

― Yerac, Tuesday, 12 June 2018 22:24 (seven years ago)

I'd probably be wise to save it for the controversial opinions thread if I were willing to expend much energy on the argument, but I feel like SP is one of the less ideologically-aligned popular enertainments out there inasmuch as it is willing to present differing viewpoints on a given topic (even if it is ultimately in the service of skewering one or all of the viewpoints presented). Like, whatever P&S's personal ideological slant may be, it's hard to argue that they're shoveling out propaganda for just their ideology.

― Not with a bang but a MAGA (Old Lunch), Tuesday, 12 June 2018 22:30 (seven years ago)

(Unless you focus on their treatment of ecological issues, which seems to be invariably dunderheaded.)

― Not with a bang but a MAGA (Old Lunch), Tuesday, 12 June 2018 22:33 (seven years ago)

South Park has been shoveling out alt-right propaganda for at least a decade now. C'mon man. xp

― lbi's life of limitless european glamour (Le Bateau Ivre), Tuesday, 12 June 2018 22:34 (seven years ago)

I just had to re-read this to figure out what point was really trying to be made and also now annoyed because I thought new episodes were out.

― Yerac, Tuesday, 12 June 2018 22:35 (seven years ago)

it is willing to present differing viewpoints on a given topic (even if it is ultimately in the service of skewering one or all of the viewpoints presented)

lol how is this different from when Fox News brings on a "liberal" commentator

kinda sad you've fallen for their "both sidesism" bullshit as some kind of objective presentation of opposing views, c'mon now

― Οὖτις, Tuesday, 12 June 2018 22:36 (seven years ago)

I agree that the show's politics aren't as simple as its detractors argue, esp the later/more recent seasons, but I got tired enough of the weird/bad takes to eventually lose interest

― Simon H., Tuesday, 12 June 2018 22:38 (seven years ago)

I wouldn't describe myself as a fan of South Park - I've seen episodes and laughed (hard) at some points but I've also found a lot it gross for the sake of being gross and I find its lack of position ultimately empty. I haven't really paid attention in years.

When South Park first came out in the UK, it was around the millenium and I had just started high school. The guys - and it was predominantly boys - who were into South Park majorly were guys who were into Eminem, nu-metal, Jackass, and so on. They were all dicks, vicious bullies. They didn't understand the satire and layers of irony: they saw the cruelty and crudeness and ran with it. We had a boy at school whose surname was commonly mistaken for "Cheesy" and so spent four years being called "Cheesey Poof."

Of course South Park isn't to blame for this any more than any of the other stuff that was big with this audience was - teenage boys are little bastards, generally, and feelings of anger and entitlement are as much about adolescence as they are about personality and nature. But it was what put me off watching it for so long. Now I'm older I can see that these cultural totems like Cartman and Fred Durst didn't create the environment, they just tapped into what was there and amplified it - "there's a million others just like me, who just don't give a fuck like me" and so on. I think basically, a lot of things like this show over the past fifteen-twenty years have legitimised the rise of the alt-right, many in ways that weren't intended or anticipated.

― boxedjoy, Tuesday, 12 June 2018 22:47 (seven years ago)

Shakes, I won't pretend that they aren't biased but like I mentioned, the only real take I can think of them hammering home without much wavering is 'caring about the environment is dum, lol'. More often, the perspective seems to be that the people arguing any side of an argument are often at least a little wrong and stupid, which I find hard to argue with. I mean, just look at this argument, for gosh sakes.

I will acknowledge that I've probably only been able to watch the show because it doesn't influence my existing opinions one way or another. They can savage liberals 'til the cows come home and I will still proudly cry my big fat gleaming libtears afterwards.

(Also nb, I haven't watched SP in like five years so I don't even know why I'm participating so heavily rn.)

― Not with a bang but a MAGA (Old Lunch), Tuesday, 12 June 2018 22:48 (seven years ago)

xp I mean I'm aware I'm doing a bit of reaching here and tying the show to broader trends in culture but nothing exists in a vacuum etc

― boxedjoy, Tuesday, 12 June 2018 22:48 (seven years ago)

Shakey and frogbs otmfm throughout this thread revive. I still retain some residual affection for the show's earlier seasons, with it having premiered when I was 14 (or almost the exact age when a prospective cishet white male would be most receptive to it) and by aiming so broadly they occasionally hit a target right on the nose even today, but on balance I think the effects of South Park's mishmash of frat-boy libertarianism and know-nothing nihilism on the broader pop cultural discourse - with the fact that it's a comedy providing just the right veneer of plausible deniability for all sorts of bullshit - have been bad ones.

― It's like an Christian pop (thewufs), Tuesday, 12 June 2018 22:51 (seven years ago)

tying the show to broader trends in culture

thank you and don't apologize, because this is my point. Yes Fred Durst songs and Cartman didn't create this dynamic, but the people that created them did so willfully and unapologetically, they capitalized on it and encouraged it. so fuck them.

― Οὖτις, Tuesday, 12 June 2018 22:56 (seven years ago)

the only real take I can think of them hammering home without much wavering

I refer you to every single depiction of an asian ever

― Οὖτις, Tuesday, 12 June 2018 22:57 (seven years ago)

(on SP that is)

― Οὖτις, Tuesday, 12 June 2018 22:57 (seven years ago)

"Prospective (cishet white male) fan," I mean (xxxp).

― It's like an Christian pop (thewufs), Tuesday, 12 June 2018 23:00 (seven years ago)

white guys getting off on consequence-free transgression
^this

their treatment of ecological issues
^and this

i've def snickered at SP over the years and i could prob ignore Parker & Stone's run-of-the-mill libertarian douchery, but honestly before them who with any kind of 'hip' cultural prestige else was "dunking" on climate science? it was just talk radio loons and industry planted op eds? mostly?

obviously the internet and Fox news would've happened anyway, but "South Park Conservatism" was/ is definitely a thing, and it definitely informed what has festered on 4-chan et al.

― constitutional crises they fly at u face (will), Tuesday, 12 June 2018 23:08 (seven years ago)

I refer you to every single depiction of an asian ever

― Οὖτις, Tuesday, June 12, 2018 5:57 PM (eight minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Yes, I thought of that one immediately after posting.

― Not with a bang but a MAGA (Old Lunch), Tuesday, 12 June 2018 23:10 (seven years ago)

I just saw the latest Johnny Knoxville movie and he looks like a walking cadaver sapped of any joy contractually obligated to re-break every bone in his already broken body and was wondering why do that to yourself and then I remembered oh yeah Matt and Trey are still making South Park

― Philip Nunez, Tuesday, 12 June 2018 23:17 (seven years ago)

Depicting asians in a nuanced, positive light has only started happening in US pop culture in the last 42 minutes. But whatever, this has turned into a "why are white men (in the US) so entirely messed up" thread. Carry on.

― Yerac, Tuesday, 12 June 2018 23:24 (seven years ago)

The show’s racism towards asians is super aggressive, it isnt exactly Happy Days

― Οὖτις, Tuesday, 12 June 2018 23:29 (seven years ago)

Yeah, it's consistently ott and indefensible.

― Not with a bang but a MAGA (Old Lunch), Tuesday, 12 June 2018 23:36 (seven years ago)

When I was in high school this show normalized people calling others “Jews”.

― Slippage (Ross), Wednesday, 13 June 2018 05:12 (seven years ago)

the baseline requirement for complete alignment with one's own POV before enjoying or appreciating satire is ..... pathetic

― laurel or hardyhearin (darraghmac), Wednesday, 13 June 2018 05:52 (seven years ago)

end of, m8s. end of.

― laurel or hardyhearin (darraghmac), Wednesday, 13 June 2018 05:52 (seven years ago)

wait but did we get this sorted or

― lbi's life of limitless european glamour (Le Bateau Ivre), Wednesday, 13 June 2018 07:53 (seven years ago)

So much more work goes into cultivating an identity now than in 1997.

People aren't dumber or more credulous than they were in the decades before but establishing personal truths and having them reinforced by social structures and discourse, was undoubtedly a more straightforward affair then than now.

South Park wasn't the cause of this but its slanted political nihilism was made all the more seductive as a result.

― tsrobodo, Wednesday, 13 June 2018 09:01 (seven years ago)

sorry m8 end of invoked m8

― laurel or hardyhearin (darraghmac), Wednesday, 13 June 2018 09:02 (seven years ago)

Yeah but what if.... I ignore you?

― tsrobodo, Wednesday, 13 June 2018 09:06 (seven years ago)

Scrolling thru upthread, I see that this (like so many on ILX) is a perennial argument which is frequently resurrected but seldom resolved.

― Not with a bang but a MAGA (Old Lunch), Wednesday, 13 June 2018 12:14 (seven years ago)

When I was in high school this show normalized people calling others “Jews”.

same, but for middle school

I get that SP only exploited something that was already there but I'm pretty sure a good dozen ppl referring to me as "you fuckin' Jew" came directly from show

― frogbs, Wednesday, 13 June 2018 12:52 (seven years ago)

I went back and skimmed through the thread too and:

although the person I know who appears to be the biggest fan of the South Park depiction of Asians is Taiwanese-American; he constantly quotes "our penis VERY SMALL" at people

LOL I'm Taiwanese American too (and grew up in chinese restaurants). I think maybe taiwanese americans are just assholes. Ha!

― Yerac, Wednesday, 13 June 2018 13:19 (seven years ago)

Incidentally I've started a King Of The Hill rewatch and the way the race issues are dealt with show that you can discuss stereotypes and bigotry for laughs without being so obviously problematic

― boxedjoy, Wednesday, 13 June 2018 13:35 (seven years ago)

Yes, I think it's fair to say that pretty much any topic under the sun could be handled with more nuance and sensitivity than is afforded by Parker and Stone.

― Not with a bang but a MAGA (Old Lunch), Wednesday, 13 June 2018 14:03 (seven years ago)

three months pass...

https://etcanada.com/news/374481/catholic-league-president-hits-out-at-south-park-bosses-over-child-abuse-episode-cowards/

“The October 3rd episode of ‘South Park,’ titled ‘A Boy and a Priest,’ portrayed molesting priests as pedophiles. This is factually inaccurate: almost all the molesters–8 in 10–have been homosexuals."

'Sorry meant poof not pedo'

― Bimlo Horsewagon became Wheelbarrow Horseflesh (aldo), Monday, 8 October 2018 23:03 (seven years ago)

His message read, “The October 3rd episode of ‘South Park,’ titled ‘A Boy and a Priest,’ portrayed molesting priests as pedophiles. This is factually inaccurate: almost all the molesters–8 in 10–have been homosexuals.
“Therefore, the cartoon-victim characters should have been depicted as adolescents, not kids.

Yeah, this is a villain in a Mr Show sketch

― Glower, Disruption & Pies (kingfish), Monday, 8 October 2018 23:11 (seven years ago)

oh yeah there's a new series! cool. the last series was decent

― imago, Monday, 8 October 2018 23:19 (seven years ago)

watching this series. the priest episode is amazing.

― imago, Monday, 22 October 2018 22:05 (six years ago)

idk how they managed to fit that much nuance and sympathy into a character study in a 20-minute crappily-animated comedy show

― imago, Monday, 22 October 2018 22:07 (six years ago)

old lunch up there carping about nuance and sensitivity - well, there ya go

― imago, Monday, 22 October 2018 22:07 (six years ago)

Scroll up, bubby. I've been one of their bigger defenders itt.

― a butt, at which the shaft of ridicule is daily glanced (Old Lunch), Monday, 22 October 2018 22:20 (six years ago)

fair - but then you should acknowledge when they do something that great! the final scene is exquisite

― imago, Monday, 22 October 2018 22:22 (six years ago)

(I would still stand by that post as a general thing but I acknowledge that they are able to transcend their general tendency and deliver a 'You're Getting Old' when they're of a mind.)

― a butt, at which the shaft of ridicule is daily glanced (Old Lunch), Monday, 22 October 2018 22:25 (six years ago)

FWIW, your recent revive has made me wanna play catch-up.

― a butt, at which the shaft of ridicule is daily glanced (Old Lunch), Monday, 22 October 2018 22:26 (six years ago)

i have the sense they're of a mind more than usual - both first two episodes of this season are really good

― imago, Monday, 22 October 2018 22:27 (six years ago)

i’ve really enjoyed this season so far

― maura, Tuesday, 23 October 2018 14:10 (six years ago)

these are good signs. Going to dive back in for this season.

― for i, sock in enumerate (Sufjan Grafton), Tuesday, 23 October 2018 15:20 (six years ago)

Haven't watched it (or really wanted to) in years, but a friend recommended the Tegridy episode. When Randy puts the hat on Stan...dying.

― Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Tuesday, 23 October 2018 15:51 (six years ago)

YES and the payoff to that bit is amazing

― maura, Tuesday, 23 October 2018 17:49 (six years ago)

No episode this week so I returned to the Grounded Vindaloop one that keeps making best-episode lists. I mean I'm still laughing now

― imago, Wednesday, 31 October 2018 11:11 (six years ago)

this new season has been great.

― Yerac, Wednesday, 31 October 2018 11:31 (six years ago)

has 'tegridy for sure

― for i, sock in enumerate (Sufjan Grafton), Wednesday, 31 October 2018 14:29 (six years ago)

this episode was awesome

― maura, Thursday, 1 November 2018 03:18 (six years ago)

OMG the Halloween episode

there's a non-zero chance the best TV series of 2018 will end up being South Park S22

― imago, Saturday, 3 November 2018 22:14 (six years ago)

omg a manbearpig walkback!!!!! but of course one that satirises walkbacks lol

― imago, Friday, 9 November 2018 22:32 (six years ago)

Waiiiiitaminute. Are you suggesting that P+S might actually be questioning the dumbest take they've stubbornly clung to for the past two decades? This I've gotta see.

― Always noble, with stunning good looks and genious IQ (Old Lunch), Friday, 9 November 2018 22:35 (six years ago)

it was time

― imago, Friday, 9 November 2018 22:41 (six years ago)

now they just have to roll out a positive portrayal of a trans person

― imago, Friday, 9 November 2018 22:43 (six years ago)

Dutch age change guy reminds me so much of Dutch colleague...who loved south park

― for i, sock in enumerate (Sufjan Grafton), Saturday, 10 November 2018 03:37 (six years ago)

three weeks pass...

Bezos as Star Trek Talosian A++. Great episode

― Elvis Telecom, Thursday, 6 December 2018 10:22 (six years ago)

holy SHIT at that "16 Tons" opening sequence

― resident hack (Simon H.), Thursday, 6 December 2018 11:37 (six years ago)

I'm assuming this will all be ruined over the next week or two but for now I'm going to enjoy Marxist rhetoric being deployed so nakedly (and, surprisingly, without snarky takebacks)

― resident hack (Simon H.), Thursday, 6 December 2018 11:59 (six years ago)

holy SHIT at that "16 Tons" opening sequence

it was really really something

― maura, Thursday, 6 December 2018 16:21 (six years ago)

The last few days have taught me that trying to convince people to watch a new episode of South Park in 2018 is basically impossible, even when I provide hard evidence that the politics are Good, Actually

― resident hack (Simon H.), Friday, 7 December 2018 15:01 (six years ago)

they just have to walk back some of the transphobia and i'll be close to 100% on board

― imago, Friday, 7 December 2018 15:09 (six years ago)

Ok the politics are good but is the show funny

― Mordy, Friday, 7 December 2018 15:11 (six years ago)

this season has been excellent and funny

― imago, Friday, 7 December 2018 15:12 (six years ago)

I mean, I laughed. I especially liked how mutant Bezos had the Mayor in his pocket, which was both funny and timely.

― resident hack (Simon H.), Friday, 7 December 2018 15:12 (six years ago)

also the depiction of a wacky accident on the Amazon shop floor airing within 24 hours of that insane IRL bear mace incident was just too good.

― resident hack (Simon H.), Friday, 7 December 2018 15:13 (six years ago)

yes!!!

― maura, Friday, 7 December 2018 15:21 (six years ago)

I am dying to watch this episode. I fell asleep during the anxiety one.

― Yerac, Friday, 7 December 2018 15:22 (six years ago)

for any curious/doubtful lurkers, the sequence maura and I mentioned:

https://youtu.be/eX4C0CctGSo

― resident hack (Simon H.), Friday, 7 December 2018 15:32 (six years ago)

^^ that's great.

― lbi's life of limitless european glamour (Le Bateau Ivre), Friday, 7 December 2018 15:51 (six years ago)

pic.twitter.com/uGulpztbVt
— Chris Barrus (@quartzcity) December 7, 2018

― Elvis Telecom, Friday, 7 December 2018 20:29 (six years ago)

srsly, best tv series of 2018

― imago, Saturday, 8 December 2018 02:02 (six years ago)

TIL Adam Curtis is a big fan

The Economist: Isn’t religion an organised panic about death?
Mr Curtis: No. I’m not religious but I don’t share the liberal dislike of religion because I think its fundamental point is to reassure us in the face of our own death. That’s what religion does, it gives you a sense that you’re part of something that’s moving onwards. It reassures people. Death is frightening and for a generation who believe that they are alone and were liberated by that idea and had a really good time, to be alone in the face of death is very frightening. So I have a funny feeling that religion might come back.
The Economist: I hope you don’t think I’m being reductive, but it sounds as if religion is a bit of a placebo when it comes to mortality.
Mr Curtis: Well, you are being reductive because placebos are actually as powerful as real things. As we know, in the three-part episode of South Park called “Imaginationland”, Trey Parker very powerfully argues that imagination has been more powerful in shaping the world that we exist in now than anything else. And he’s right. And that’s what we’ve lost to be honest.

https://www.economist.com/open-future/2018/12/06/the-antidote-to-civilisational-collapse?aggregates/the-economist-intvws-adam-curtis-n-b-full-transcript-long-read

― resident hack (Simon H.), Tuesday, 18 December 2018 15:04 (six years ago)

lol what

As we know, in the three-part episode of South Park called “Imaginationland”

Further here: https://www.theguardian.com/film/2016/nov/14/adam-curtis-documentary-south-park-american-honey

― maffew12, Thursday, 20 December 2018 01:08 (six years ago)

nine months pass...

still got it

https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/south-park-banned-chinese-internet-critical-episode-1245783

― maura, Tuesday, 8 October 2019 12:19 (six years ago)

i will say with all the nba stuff happening this episode was pretty well timed

― maura, Tuesday, 8 October 2019 12:20 (six years ago)

20 years of City Wok and thus is what they snap at haha

― imago, Tuesday, 8 October 2019 12:22 (six years ago)

Tempting!

Nigel Farage
@Nigel_Farage
The British people are done with mainstream media. So we decided to make our own — this series is called Stepping Up.

My first conversation is with Rod Liddle, who I first met deep in the bowels of the European Parliament back in the 1990s, when he was an editor at the BBC...

― Captain ACAB (Neil S), Tuesday, 8 October 2019 12:24 (six years ago)

lol sorry wrong thread

― Captain ACAB (Neil S), Tuesday, 8 October 2019 12:25 (six years ago)

farage and liddle to start their own libertarian animated sitcom

― imago, Tuesday, 8 October 2019 12:26 (six years ago)

20 years of City Wok and thus is what they snap at haha

well, that’s punching down. this is punching up at a very sensitive target. see also the stuff happening with blizzard / activision

Breaking: Effective immediately, Blizzard has removed Hong Kong Hearthstone player blitzchung from Hearthstone Grand Masters, rescinded all his prize money, and have suspended him from pro play for one year for his recent interview.

Statement below https://t.co/ByI8vrZk1a pic.twitter.com/3h6jKYezMQ
— Rod Breslau (@Slasher) October 8, 2019

― maura, Tuesday, 8 October 2019 12:30 (six years ago)

no, of course. they've really smartened their act recently

― imago, Tuesday, 8 October 2019 12:38 (six years ago)

Execellent way to raise awareness and support for Hong Kong protestors. I was trying to watch the new episodes last night but got sleepy after the first episode of the new season (it was kind of meh).

― Yerac, Tuesday, 8 October 2019 12:40 (six years ago)

if you're under 45 and a climate change denier there's a 100% chance you waddle around the office repeating "man-bear-pig" and thinking you're a yung George Carlin

anyway, good to hear they've changed their tune some i guess

― A-B-C. A-Always, B-Be, C-Chooglin (will), Tuesday, 8 October 2019 15:10 (six years ago)

I actually give 'em a lot of credit for reversing course on that. Not that their original position wasn't completely idiotic but it takes a lot for smug libertarian types to actually come out and say, "yeah, we were wrong about this one"

― frogbs, Tuesday, 8 October 2019 15:14 (six years ago)

I just had to look up the name of last year's manbearpig revisit- "Time to Get Cereal" & "Nobody Got Cereal?"

― Yerac, Tuesday, 8 October 2019 15:21 (six years ago)

one month passes...

enjoyed first 3 episodes of the new season

― imago, Wednesday, 27 November 2019 01:33 (five years ago)

first 6 episodes completely wonderful. 7th is where we find out whether they've moderated their stance on trans rights though so i'm a bit nervous

― imago, Wednesday, 27 November 2019 23:57 (five years ago)

the answer turned out to be 'we just wanted to self-knowingly bait the liberals' but i think they're maybe closer to a positive portrayal of an actual trans character, give it another 5 years ffs

nonetheless, the show is generally as good now as it's ever been, both morally and as a satire

― imago, Thursday, 28 November 2019 14:01 (five years ago)

two months pass...

Forgive the thread spam, but I wanted to note that this show's 2019 season is nominated in the 2019 ILX TV poll:

ILX's Best Television of 2019 Poll / VOTING AND CAMPAIGNING THREAD / Voting Ends January 31

If you like this show and you'd like to see it have a good showing in the poll (running in February) all you need to do is submit a ballot including it and your other favorites (4 minimum, 25 maximum, organized by your favorite to least favorite) to forksclovetofu at gmail by end of day today. It'll take five minutes; get to it!

― Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Friday, 31 January 2020 14:30 (five years ago)

eight months pass...

Pandemic special is out now - nice behind-the-scenes video showing them shipping workstations to the artists' homes, animators crawling under their houses to install ethernet extensions etc.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ox1x-OzxRII

― erratic wolf angular guitarist (sic), Saturday, 3 October 2020 22:24 (five years ago)

one month passes...

Parker and Stone's new deepfake video made me lol

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9WfZuNceFDM

― closed beta (NotEnough), Wednesday, 4 November 2020 16:58 (four years ago)

kinda endearing that their style of humor has not changed at all over the years, watching that I feel like I'm stuck in 2004

― frogbs, Wednesday, 4 November 2020 17:03 (four years ago)

nine months pass...

900 million!
https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/movies/movie-news/14-south-park-films-parker-stone-deal-1234993150/

― Elvis Telecom, Friday, 6 August 2021 03:00 (four years ago)

"South Park" got really tiresome really fast.

― Michael, Friday, June 8, 2001 (twenty years ago)

― it is to laugh, like so, ha! (Aimless), Friday, 6 August 2021 04:25 (four years ago)

three months pass...

apparently the next thing shows the characters as if they actually aged normally over the last 25 years?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qzEoBrr9gRA

looks fun and lol @ Cartman's chosen profession but everything else seems like Babylon Bee-style humor

― frogbs, Monday, 29 November 2021 18:39 (three years ago)

The premise is that COVID is "nearly beaten" so things will get back to normal "soon". Trouble is, it's 40 years later.

It's a fairly gun romp at times which closes out the Randy stories of the past couple of seasons and has none-too-subtle digs at anti-vaxxers, cryptocurrency and woke comedians along with some interesting characterisation of what the cast are like at that age.

To be honest, I'd be happy if it was the end of the show. It's a perfectly good full stop, in much the same way that You Got Old was.

― Long enough attention span for a Stephen Bissette blu-ray extra (aldo), Monday, 29 November 2021 18:48 (three years ago)

o nice, will watch this

― imago, Monday, 29 November 2021 19:03 (three years ago)

i haven't watched south park in decades but i'll give this a shot

― When Young Sheldon began to rap (forksclovetofu), Monday, 29 November 2021 19:06 (three years ago)

This show is not ending - it's been extended to its 30th season, with 14 additional movies to be made in between.

https://screenrant.com/south-park-season-30-renewed-new-movies-updates/

― octobeard, Monday, 29 November 2021 19:41 (three years ago)

It's okay. They got given a massive sum of money to make a dozen or so hour-long specials. The result is that it feels a bit like they don't need money, ratings or notoriety so they are just doing whatever they want, even if it's not really very funny. The format was already evolving over the past few series but it's now feels very different from classic South Park. Reminds me a bit of when Red Dwarf did a series with longer, unfunny episodes and half the cast missing or changed.

It's plot-heavy and there are not many gags and some of them are old, or just fall flat. Removing the kids seems like it would put the show in every shark-jump top ten list forever. Cartman is totally neutered and Butters isn't present so they've lost the best characters. The parents and teachers etc are barely there so they've removed that important dynamic. Kinda expect everything to go back to normal but maybe not.

― everything, Monday, 29 November 2021 20:03 (three years ago)

It's still pretty good though. 3 bags of popcorn and maybe it'll get better once Butters and the real Cartman show up.

― everything, Monday, 29 November 2021 20:11 (three years ago)

Didn't mean to imply it was ending, just that it would have made a satisfactory coda.

Butters isn't present

Well, he is, but...

― Long enough attention span for a Stephen Bissette blu-ray extra (aldo), Monday, 29 November 2021 20:17 (three years ago)

Yes, I do expect the next episode to be funnier.

― everything, Monday, 29 November 2021 20:19 (three years ago)

There was a point where the show started getting heavily serialized and I was kind of curious to see how that would play out, but the character of "PC Principal" was so detached from reality it was hard to watch so much of him. Yes, even for South Park, it was too stupid.

― Nhex, Monday, 29 November 2021 20:56 (three years ago)

I loved PC Principal

― licorice in the front, pizza in the rear (Whiney G. Weingarten), Monday, 29 November 2021 21:41 (three years ago)

three weeks pass...

The second part was pretty funny. I watched it with a few others and we were all laughing a lot. Still think they wasted Cartman but Butters destiny was pretty lol.

― everything, Wednesday, 22 December 2021 02:08 (three years ago)

one year passes...

Thought this was pretty cool, and like many non-Coloradans, I didn’t know if it was a real place or something they’d come up with for the show:

https://www.nytimes.com/2023/06/06/us/casa-bonita-restaurant.html

― Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Tuesday, 6 June 2023 21:56 (two years ago)

That story is amazing

― young sussy (Whiney G. Weingarten), Wednesday, 7 June 2023 01:22 (two years ago)

two years pass...

Good interview with Isaac Hayes' son, who says it was the Church of Scientology that pulled the plug on Hayes being part of the cast, while he was incapacitated.

So, initially, the episode came out in November, and there was no reaction. There wasn’t any upswell about that episode at all. It really wasn’t a big deal at the time. That January, in 2006, my dad had a stroke, and during the course of his recovery, I think that March, they re-aired the episode. When it re-aired, that’s when Scientology got upset.

At that time, my father was recovering from a stroke — literally learning how to talk, learning how to function. I visited my father. He was really struggling sometimes to even speak and say words. At the time, the people that were around him were largely Scientologists — his publicists and management. Those decisions about his involvement in the show, his leaving the show, were made by those people and not him. He would have never quit that show. He loved that show, and he was making a lot of money doing that show. So, I take issue with the way those decisions were made on his behalf because it put him in a position to actually have to go on the road and tour before he was ready to tour.

https://www.cracked.com/article_47426_my-dad-would-have-never-quit-that-show-isaac-hayes-iii-on-what-south-park-meant-to-his-father.html

― paper plans (tipsy mothra), Tuesday, 22 July 2025 14:19 (two months ago)

lmao 2 days after Paramount gives them a massive deal

https://bsky.app/profile/esqueer.net/post/3luonhnkhvk2f

― frogbs, Thursday, 24 July 2025 04:56 (two months ago)

Yeah, I'll say this much: these dudes have flexible/questionable politics at times, but I like the idea of them explicitly picking a scorched-earth fight with that asshole.

― Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 24 July 2025 13:55 (two months ago)

As my brother put it, "I think they're opportunistic little weird Colorado libertarians, but if they're causing problems for Paramount and Trump, I'm here for the content."

And I think their knee-jerk anti-authoritarianism will just tend to push against/make fun of whoever's in power.

― paper plans (tipsy mothra), Thursday, 24 July 2025 14:13 (two months ago)

If there's one topic they're pretty consistent about politically over the last three (!!) decades, it's freedom of speech and satire. Given the current admin's pushes via media to indirectly censor political speech, this all out scorched earth ep is quite on brand.

― octobeard, Friday, 25 July 2025 20:44 (two months ago)

one month passes...

wonder what they're gonna do with the Cartman arc now

― frogbs, Wednesday, 10 September 2025 19:43 (one month ago)

you bastards!

― gestures broadly at...everything (voodoo chili), Wednesday, 10 September 2025 19:45 (one month ago)

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