Diet support thread 2004

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This is the thread where we rather self-indulgently discuss our health kicks for 2004, ideally with support and encouragement for all.

― Markelby (Mark C), Tuesday, 6 January 2004 17:30 (twenty-one years ago)

What, again Mark? Didn't you do one of those last year?

I like to start you off in a supportive manner.

― Sarah (starry), Tuesday, 6 January 2004 17:32 (twenty-one years ago)

I weighed in at 13 stone 5 pounds (187 pounds) this morning, and want to shift 12 pounds by my birthday (16th March). I already succumbed to my first full-fat mocha this afternoon, but otherwise it's going okay.

So - how you doin'?

― Markelby (Mark C), Tuesday, 6 January 2004 17:32 (twenty-one years ago)

Sarah, I do one every year. I lose weight at the start of the year, bottom out in the spring, start eating like a pig during the summer holidays, continue through autumn, then December I go mental and put on half a stone. It's just the way it is.

― Markelby (Mark C), Tuesday, 6 January 2004 17:33 (twenty-one years ago)

I am pondering going swimming - but not for FAT issues (although they are horrific) but because I fancy a good splash about.

The main problem with this however is SWIMMING COSTUMES. Urgh. Where do you find a nice 50s one that covers you up nicely, that's what I want to know.

― Sarah (starry), Tuesday, 6 January 2004 17:34 (twenty-one years ago)

Finally, a forum for my rant about the Atkins diet... what a load of crap! Since the early years of the Fertile Crescent, the whole development of mankind has sprung from the cultivation of vegetable-based carbohydrates... rice, wheat, rye, potatoes, yams, etc. This is what separates us from our caveman brothers... and now carbs are out? After 5000 years, now carbs are bad for you? And you should eat steak everyday like a wolfman?

(Yesterday I saw a fast food commercial with their new "low-carb" burger... it didn't have a bun, just wrapped in lettuce. I'm still livid.)

― andy, Tuesday, 6 January 2004 17:46 (twenty-one years ago)

good luck with your health endeavours, mark. i am mostly posting here to echo sarah's question about 50s bathing suits. i have been looking for one of those for ages, though in bikini style, i love that full bikini look.

― The Lady Ms Lurex (lucylurex), Tuesday, 6 January 2004 17:53 (twenty-one years ago)

i just stayed up all night, what the fuck?

― The Lady Ms Lurex (lucylurex), Tuesday, 6 January 2004 17:57 (twenty-one years ago)

Bikinis are a good topic for any thread.

As for the Atkins diet, anyone tried it? What's it like? Does it work?

Surely I can't be the only person on this bitch trying to lose weight? Maybe y'all have some kind of privacy thing going on.

― Markelby (Mark C), Tuesday, 6 January 2004 18:07 (twenty-one years ago)

you sayin' i'm fat?

― stevem (blueski), Tuesday, 6 January 2004 18:12 (twenty-one years ago)

I just didn't want to post because while I'm quite unhappy with myself and am "determined" to lose the US equiv of a stone within the next month or two, my "determination" did not prevent me from just chowing down full force on a bacon cheeseburger and large fries from BURGER KING of all places (I haven't had fast food in approx 3 years). Of course this is due to PMS but still.

― Allyzay, Tuesday, 6 January 2004 18:15 (twenty-one years ago)

I just want to get in shape. I'm not going to piss anyone off by saying I'm overweight because I'm hardly that, but I seriously need to get in shape for my health's sake. This, of course, means I have to move my ass until I break a sweat. Which means I need motivation. Which means....fuck it.

― Jeanne Fury (Jeanne Fury), Tuesday, 6 January 2004 18:20 (twenty-one years ago)

Ally, do you have the opportunity to exercise it off? It's only one meal, so if you have a light dinner you'll be fine.

― Markelby (Mark C), Tuesday, 6 January 2004 18:21 (twenty-one years ago)

I am thinking of starting my diet soon (I made and froze a big batch of vegetable soup) but then yesterday I ate four donuts.

― tokyo rosemary (rosemary), Tuesday, 6 January 2004 18:21 (twenty-one years ago)

That rocks!

― Jeanne Fury (Jeanne Fury), Tuesday, 6 January 2004 18:24 (twenty-one years ago)

Well all I ever do is run up and down stairs and lift things and run around all day so it's not like I'm just sitting around in front of a computer or a television, so I guess it's not so bad.

― Allyzay, Tuesday, 6 January 2004 18:28 (twenty-one years ago)

This happens to me every winter, though. When I can't go to the park after work and walk beause it's too cold and dark out, I don't move much. And I am so anti-gym (for myself, not others), it's not even funny.

― Jeanne Fury (Jeanne Fury), Tuesday, 6 January 2004 18:30 (twenty-one years ago)

Markelby, and others, do you keep a food diary? I find that helps.

― tokyo rosemary (rosemary), Tuesday, 6 January 2004 18:37 (twenty-one years ago)

Rosemary, I tried last year - I found it hard to quantify stuff so I gave. What I do kind of do is figure out if each day is a positive, neutral or negative day diet-wise and I add them up each week - so a 4 positive, 2 neutral and 1 negative week is pretty satisfactory (and about the best I can manage). It works pretty well.

― Markelby (Mark C), Tuesday, 6 January 2004 18:41 (twenty-one years ago)

I'm opposed to the Atkins diet, but I thoroughly recommend keeping an eye on your calorie intake.

And exercise, natch.

Good luck, yo!

― miss marianna (ken c), Tuesday, 6 January 2004 21:39 (twenty-one years ago)

I'm now doing low saturated fat and lower carb. I will soon be thinking about pasta when I masturbate.

― Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Tuesday, 6 January 2004 21:41 (twenty-one years ago)

I want a fifties style bathing suit too. The nearest I can find is $80 because it is some robust sport racing style by Speedo. How can that be right?

Jeanne, I am very anti-gym as well, but have been succeeding in going for a while. First find a cheap one. Then go early in the morning so you miss the body beautiful people. My timing coincides with the cardiac recovery people, so it is very non-intimidating (though I do nervously study the CPR posters on the walls). All I can really say for this is that its easier than controlling what I eat.

― isadora (isadora), Tuesday, 6 January 2004 21:48 (twenty-one years ago)

i got the best 50's-esque bathing suit at an old school lingerie shop when i was visiting my parents over the holidays. it's a black and white large floral pattern with white trim, and offers very full coverage. i was trying not crack up the whole time in the dressing room as two elderly sales ladies insisted on coming in with me and talking to each other the whole time as they slapped and prodded at me: "she doesn't need one with shirring - she's firm up here" (whap on the bosom)
"i think we only need to bring in the strap an inch. her waist is longer than i thought" (poke in the flank)

― lauren (laurenp), Tuesday, 6 January 2004 22:00 (twenty-one years ago)

50 pounds overweight. Yet another opportunity to start dieting, lose all concentration, feel unable to write anything whenever I've eaten anything with less fat than, say, donner kebab and fries, and then giving up at some point circa January 21st. The diet starts on Saturday. I'll never manage it.

― Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Tuesday, 6 January 2004 23:08 (twenty-one years ago)

I could do with losing enough weight to go down a few dress sizes or so. I would actually be thrilled if I could lose enough so where I'd weigh about 150 lbs or so. The last time I weighed that much I was in the eighth grade. I kid you not. So yeah, implementing a personally tailored program that reduces my personal caloric intake and gets me exercising more than the walk to and from parking lots would be rather nice.

― Tenacious Dee (Dee the Lurker), Tuesday, 6 January 2004 23:58 (twenty-one years ago)

I have seen the atkins diet work- though you need to supplement with excellent vitamins, and possibly some essential minerals aswell. YOu shouldnt be trying to do much physical work, energy levels may not cope. You can eat mayonaise and cheese, its certainly not the most difficult diet but you must be disciplined. I would say regular exercise is the best way to get the pounds off though and I am a dietitian. No im not actually but it makes sense, good luck.

― jeskam, Wednesday, 7 January 2004 02:09 (twenty-one years ago)

I will soon be thinking about pasta when I masturbate.

This phrase will haunt me now. Especially since I had some pasta for dinner.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 7 January 2004 03:34 (twenty-one years ago)

I just can't understand how the Atkins Diet can be that healthy for you, but it certainly seems to work for a lot of ppl. I can't do it because I am vegetarian. I am, however, starting a diet on Friday. It's gonna be tough but it's such an easy diet (slimming world) to stick to (cos you get to eat loads) that i should be cool. Cutting down on red wine is gonna be tough though!

― Pinkpanther (Pinkpanther), Wednesday, 7 January 2004 09:50 (twenty-one years ago)

three words:

HOT.
PANTS.
WORKOUT.

― Catty (Catty), Wednesday, 7 January 2004 09:53 (twenty-one years ago)

I'm a big fat git - but I just bought the suit for the wedding which fits just right, so I can hardly lose very much weight (let alone the two stone I want to lose) ah well, never mind.

― chris (chris), Wednesday, 7 January 2004 09:54 (twenty-one years ago)

Course you can if you want to. You can always get the suit taken in!

― Pinkpanther (Pinkpanther), Wednesday, 7 January 2004 09:54 (twenty-one years ago)

As noted on the TITtyTWISter thread, I started running again last night. Hopefully this won't be a one-off and I'll keep going at least twice a week and feel magic afterwards rather than about to vomit.

Good luck to everyone else doing the health thang.

― robster (robster), Wednesday, 7 January 2004 10:06 (twenty-one years ago)

This is my sixth day on the Atkins diet. I'm finding it easier now. Tough at first (its so bloody restrictive) and it's my first time ever going on a diet (I was 13 and 3/4 stone..i've lost 3 or 4 pounds already). I usually eat pretty much whatever I want, so having to watch what I eat now is all new to me. My mate John went on it last year and lost 1 and a half stone after going on it for 2 weeks so that encouraged me to give it a try. He complained of headaches when he was on his 3rd day. Thankfully, i didnt get any of those and I'm certainly not lacking in energy.

― Michael B, Wednesday, 7 January 2004 10:20 (twenty-one years ago)

It's simple. Get a job in catering. I lost half a stone in December.

― Matt (Matt), Wednesday, 7 January 2004 10:24 (twenty-one years ago)

50s swimsuit LADIES!!!

http://shop.store.yahoo.com/rockabillymomma-store/swimsuits.html

― Sarah (starry), Wednesday, 7 January 2004 10:28 (twenty-one years ago)

I weigh exactly the same as I did last year, ie 13st 8lb. I am hoping my recent drastic cut in booze consumption will achieve a degree of natural wastage over the next couple of months.

― Ricardo (RickyT), Wednesday, 7 January 2004 10:34 (twenty-one years ago)

As in, swimsuits for ladies. Not just pictures.

Should I get this one?

― Sarah (starry), Wednesday, 7 January 2004 10:36 (twenty-one years ago)

Definitely get it!

― Pinkpanther (Pinkpanther), Wednesday, 7 January 2004 10:38 (twenty-one years ago)

It worries me how some of them are called "playsuits". The 50's must have been peculiar...

― Sarah (starry), Wednesday, 7 January 2004 10:41 (twenty-one years ago)

i think the 50's sounds like a great time to be around. great clothes.

― Pinkpanther (Pinkpanther), Wednesday, 7 January 2004 10:48 (twenty-one years ago)

You swim and play, do you see?

― Pinkpanther (Pinkpanther), Wednesday, 7 January 2004 10:49 (twenty-one years ago)

xxxxxpost

atkins diet sounds like a crazy idea to me.. lose 2 stones eating just meat - die of heart attack 5 years later. No thanks. Carbohydrate gets burnt off during EXERCISE - I eat like a pig, and i'm still underweight (120 lbs 5'7").

It could have just been that tapeworm i ingested though. Riding my bike to work everyday also makes me feel better about the excessive consumption of curry too.

― ken c (ken c), Wednesday, 7 January 2004 10:52 (twenty-one years ago)

It's meat AND vegetables. I think the only way the Atkins diet would be dangerous was if you were to prolong it for more than two weeks. Apparently after 3 days your body is supposed to go into kitosis (sp?) where your body starts to burn off your carbs. And as for exercise, I do go for a 4 mile walk every day (although to be honest its every 2 days)

― Michael B, Wednesday, 7 January 2004 11:03 (twenty-one years ago)

Last summer's Barbecue of Meat with extra Meat and also Pork Pies and Ham would have put me off the Atkins diet forever if I hadn't already thought it was a load of bollocks.

― Ricardo (RickyT), Wednesday, 7 January 2004 11:07 (twenty-one years ago)

Pork belly's gonna geeeetcha.

― belly belly belly (starry), Wednesday, 7 January 2004 11:09 (twenty-one years ago)

Yeah I'm already sick of eating sausage and bacon for breakfast when all I really want is a bowl of Corn Flakes but fuck it, I know the Atkins Diet produces results so I'ma gonna stick it out.

― Michael B, Wednesday, 7 January 2004 11:14 (twenty-one years ago)

the diet that is not my bubble belly

― Michael B, Wednesday, 7 January 2004 11:14 (twenty-one years ago)

Also, Sarah - see other 50's style bathing suit at landsend.co.uk

― marianna m, Wednesday, 7 January 2004 11:31 (twenty-one years ago)

Now I want this!!! Only $126... *faints*...

― Sarah (starry), Wednesday, 7 January 2004 11:39 (twenty-one years ago)

loads nicer!

― Pinkpanther (Pinkpanther), Wednesday, 7 January 2004 11:44 (twenty-one years ago)

X-post - Hey, Pink! Good to see ya, sweetie!

Yup, I'm there. I looked in the mirror the other night, and my mother's cellulite ridden orange peel ass stared back at me, so I decided it was time to start. No more gingerbread lattes, no more bottle of wine with every dinner, and back to walking for at least an hour every day. I've lost several stone before, so I know it's not that difficult. It helps not sitting on my ass in an office all day long.

― the river fleet, Wednesday, 7 January 2004 11:44 (twenty-one years ago)

Could it be, is it she????

― Pinkpanther (Pinkpanther), Wednesday, 7 January 2004 11:46 (twenty-one years ago)

Yup. In a web cafe for another 15 minutes and trying to ignore the Greggs and the Starbucks around the corner.

― shhhhhh, Wednesday, 7 January 2004 11:49 (twenty-one years ago)

Ignore, ignore! Be strong!

(hey btw, nice to see ya! *hugs*)

― Pinkpanther (Pinkpanther), Wednesday, 7 January 2004 11:50 (twenty-one years ago)

(oh, did you get the email i sent?)

yeah diets, they suxor!

― Pinkpanther (Pinkpanther), Wednesday, 7 January 2004 11:54 (twenty-one years ago)

Urgh it's really hard looking for swimwear online without finding many 80s tastic penumatic models in neon green and pink flowered behmoths... ewwww.

Marianna: landsend.com perhaps?I v much like this

― Sarah (starry), Wednesday, 7 January 2004 11:56 (twenty-one years ago)

I just can't do it. I was meant to not be drinking for two weeks but last night (after four sober days) I had two glasses of wine and half a G&T. Also I cannot stop eating cheese or motivate myself to do any real excersise (cleaning the bathroom may be hard work, but not really a work out.) I am disgusted with myself, with my lack of will power and with the creeping fat that means my clothes don't fit and my face looks all wrong and it's only going to get worse and worse as I get older and I won't be able to anything about it.

― Anna at Toby's (tsg20), Wednesday, 7 January 2004 12:00 (twenty-one years ago)

clothes not fitting is the most upsetting thing. :-(

― Pinkpanther (Pinkpanther), Wednesday, 7 January 2004 12:01 (twenty-one years ago)

my mom went on some variety of atkins (she's veg, too) where she cut out almost all carbs, ate only omlettes and salad and veggie burgers without buns, and drank only vodka tonics.

she lost something like 15-20 pounds in a month, and then went to the more sensible weight watchers points thing along with working out with a personal trainer.

but i was reading something the BBC put out and they basically said that if you do atkins properly, fine. if you do it halfassed and cheat AT ALL, especially including alcohol, it can to major liver damage in as little as 2 weeks. so i'd never try it.

― colette (a2lette), Wednesday, 7 January 2004 12:09 (twenty-one years ago)

That's the good thing about my diet, I can eat loads of pasta, pots, rice, noodles & veggies. (bread is limited though, boo!)

― Pinkpanther (Pinkpanther), Wednesday, 7 January 2004 12:11 (twenty-one years ago)

I bought an excersise DVD, the New York City Ballet Company Workout. I have yet to do it, because I refuse to even attempt it when any of my flatmates are in.

― Anna not at home (tsg20), Wednesday, 7 January 2004 12:13 (twenty-one years ago)

oh yeah, and when i read anna's post my first thought was 'oh no way, you so aren't fat' and all of that stuff (which i do think, by the way)

but i totally understand the mindset. i've been this tall since middle school and went from scary/scrawny to twiggy to thin to average-ish. i don't watch what i eat at all, and don't exercise enough, so i'm really worried that i'm just going to turn into a really fat person one of these days.

maybe we should start an exercise club. i agree with isadora that i'd prefer increasing my exercise to cutting what i eat. of course, we'd no doubt end up in the pub...

― colette (a2lette), Wednesday, 7 January 2004 12:14 (twenty-one years ago)

Ballet-o-cise! Top stuff. I would do that except stomping would no doubt annoy my downstairs neighbours and I'd go through the floor. SWIMMING SWIMMING SWIMMING.

Anna when we are both TRIM and in-shape (ugh you are not creeepingly fat at all whereas I look at my face reflected in the tube window and it could easily be placed on one of the obese Texans from that documentary ugh) let's get ballet shoes.

En pointe!

― Sarah (starry), Wednesday, 7 January 2004 12:16 (twenty-one years ago)

Sarah, face reflections in tube windows make everybody look as if they were spawned in hell and are not true reflection at all. I would love to take proper ballet lessons, but I can't afford it. I am well up for prancing around to Kate Bush in a balletic manner though.

― BalletAnna (tsg20), Wednesday, 7 January 2004 13:22 (twenty-one years ago)

I look fucking gorgeous in tube windows.

― Markelby (Mark C), Wednesday, 7 January 2004 13:28 (twenty-one years ago)

Actually, I look best of all in the mirror in my bedroom. I don't know if this is a good or bad thing. I look worst of all in department store changing rooms (I am seriously never taking my top off in one of them again), which you'd think they'd change so you actually look great in whatever you're trying on.

― Markelby (Mark C), Wednesday, 7 January 2004 13:29 (twenty-one years ago)

my mom went on some variety of atkins (she's veg, too) where she cut out almost all carbs, ate only omlettes and salad and veggie burgers without buns, and drank only vodka tonics

I was under the impression you shouldn't drink any alcohol whatsoever, no?

― Michael B, Wednesday, 7 January 2004 13:48 (twenty-one years ago)

right. that's why i put the part about drinking with atkins can give you liver damage. and i told her that. and she won't do it again.

i just think that a lot of people start atkins thinking it's an easy way to lose several pounds in a few weeks. which it is, i guess. you just have to be really careful that you don't cheat at all, otherwise it's really bad news.

― colette (a2lette), Wednesday, 7 January 2004 13:51 (twenty-one years ago)

A few weeks without booze, though - is it even possible?

― Markelby (Mark C), Wednesday, 7 January 2004 13:58 (twenty-one years ago)

considering I did from the 23rd to the 30th of December I'd say it's entirely possible

― chris (chris), Wednesday, 7 January 2004 13:59 (twenty-one years ago)

Yes. I managed a whole month last year.

― Ricardo (RickyT), Wednesday, 7 January 2004 13:59 (twenty-one years ago)

I managed a week last year, and a whopping 17 days when I was at university (though I was aided in that by lack of cash + after-effects of horrible vomiting experience), but nowadays 4 or 5 days is about all I can do. It always seems bloody-minded to decide to not drink if you end up at a FAP, or having dinner with chums, or masturbating and crying alone in your squalid, dank bedroom. Ahem.

― Markelby (Mark C), Wednesday, 7 January 2004 14:02 (twenty-one years ago)

I did a month a couple of years ago and 2 weeks last Nov / Dec - sadly it always makes me think how drunk people get annoying / boring far quicker if you are not drinking too. Also I end up staying extra long in the gym to minimize time spent nursing a sparkling mineral water so any weight loss is possibly due to that.

NYC Ballet is a swizz, I did classes at my gym and there was no twirling, just standing up straight and holding yr tum in.

― Emma, Wednesday, 7 January 2004 14:03 (twenty-one years ago)

This is okay, I need to stand up straight and hold my tum in. I can twirl on my own time (and indeed have been this morning, a side effect of empty flat, wooden floors and slippy tights). Did you get better posture and move like a dancer like the box promises?

― Anna (Anna), Wednesday, 7 January 2004 14:05 (twenty-one years ago)

Yeah, the only real problem I had/am having with not drinking is pubs being a hell of a lot less fun.

― Ricardo (RickyT), Wednesday, 7 January 2004 14:08 (twenty-one years ago)

Anna it was hard to tell as I always move with the grace and poise of a dancer and never trip over my own feet. Are you sure you want to move like a dancer? It doesn't seem very practical.

but seriously, I don't think I have particularly bad posture so god knows if it made any difference. The teacher had great posture but she was an ex dancer so probably had vile feet to make up for it.

― Emma, Wednesday, 7 January 2004 14:11 (twenty-one years ago)

Yes I wish to float down Oxford Street as a fawn moves through forest glades. I wish to glide through Soho with the grace of a swan. (Or something, I want my tummy to be flatter actually, and it promises I will also look taller, which made it seem like a bargin compared to leg extension surgery)

― Anna (Anna), Wednesday, 7 January 2004 14:20 (twenty-one years ago)

I've got a friends birthday party to go this weekend. I'm going to feel like a sap walking around the pub with a glass of mineral water. Although I went 2 weeks last year without booze (mainly cos i was stony broke more than any other factor)...oh well

― Michael B, Wednesday, 7 January 2004 14:27 (twenty-one years ago)

A friend gave me a Delonghi Roto-Fryer for my 30th b'day. The irony of receiving a deep fat fryer just as my metabolism is slowing drastically is too painful to contemplate.

I loooooooove my deep fat fryer.

― quincie, Wednesday, 7 January 2004 14:29 (twenty-one years ago)

the layers of gunk on my deep fat fryer has layers of gunk on it, which is just as well I suppose. I put it away into the cupboard out of sight.

― Michael B, Wednesday, 7 January 2004 14:32 (twenty-one years ago)

Day 1 of the diet. *sigh*

― Pinkpanther (Pinkpanther), Friday, 9 January 2004 10:14 (twenty-one years ago)

Day 5, and although I did have 2 glasses of wine last night (to celebrate getting a job!!!) I am still pretty much on track. Weekends are a diferent matter, though - I'm going to literally need to psyche myself up.

― Markelby (Mark C), Friday, 9 January 2004 10:19 (twenty-one years ago)

I'm s'posed to be going out for someone's b/day tomorrow to a restaurant that doesn't serve any food apart from fish & seafood! Hmm good start being veggie an' all. So I thought I could just look cool & sophisticated & drink wine, but no. damnit!

― Pinkpanther (Pinkpanther), Friday, 9 January 2004 10:30 (twenty-one years ago)

Go Barry! I tried this last year and managed 3 & 1/2 weeks before breaking down at L's sister's birthday do. It helps a lot if you have a friend doing the same thing - my flatmate at the time also went dry and fell off the wagon the same weekend.

― robster (robster), Friday, 9 January 2004 10:30 (twenty-one years ago)

Oh yeah well done M. x

― Pinkpanther (Pinkpanther), Friday, 9 January 2004 10:34 (twenty-one years ago)

oh, forgot to say that sarah jessica parker uses the ny ballet workout (although a customized one) as her way of staying fit and losing all 10 lbs of baby fat that she gained.

why can i remember crap like this that i read in passing, but can't remember peoples names?

had a discussion about running last night at the pub, that's as far as i've gotten in my quest for lifetime fitness...

― colette (a2lette), Friday, 9 January 2004 11:05 (twenty-one years ago)

Day 5, still going strong!

― Pinkpanther (Pinkpanther), Tuesday, 13 January 2004 16:11 (twenty-one years ago)

I still haven't started. I think I may need professional help this time.

― Bryan (Bryan), Tuesday, 13 January 2004 16:21 (twenty-one years ago)

Hmm. I've had meals out two days running - a pizza and wine on Sunday and a pad thai variation and beer on Monday. Other than that, it's going fine.

― Markelby (Mark C), Tuesday, 13 January 2004 16:22 (twenty-one years ago)

diets are for suckers.

― fiddo centington (dubplatestyle), Tuesday, 13 January 2004 16:24 (twenty-one years ago)

Yeah they kind of are, which is why I think I need help this time. I have no self-discipline.

― Bryan (Bryan), Tuesday, 13 January 2004 16:26 (twenty-one years ago)

eat, eat grow large with food!

― fiddo centington (dubplatestyle), Tuesday, 13 January 2004 16:27 (twenty-one years ago)

Slimline BLOODY tonic. BLUGHGHGHHGH.

― Sarah (starry), Tuesday, 13 January 2004 16:28 (twenty-one years ago)

I already have, fiddo! I've popped the buttons off of two pairs of pants in the last couple of weeks. I know I need to go to the gym but the thought of the smell of it is making me sick, let alone the image in my mind of guys shaving their chests and pervy old men watching tv naked who don't even go to the gym to work out.

― Bryan (Bryan), Tuesday, 13 January 2004 16:29 (twenty-one years ago)

Last nite I dreamt I lost 6 pounds.

― Pinkpanther (Pinkpanther), Wednesday, 14 January 2004 10:42 (twenty-one years ago)

I'm quickly realising that exercise is totally the key to losing weight, and walking up the stairs at work a few times probably isn't going to be enough. ILXor badminton frenzy, anyone?

― Markelby (Mark C), Wednesday, 14 January 2004 10:53 (twenty-one years ago)

Oh i love badminton!

― Pinkpanther (Pinkpanther), Wednesday, 14 January 2004 10:54 (twenty-one years ago)

But you live in Cambridge, woman!

― Markelby (Mark C), Wednesday, 14 January 2004 10:56 (twenty-one years ago)

Yeah I know, it doesn't stop me liking badminton though you know! :-(

― Pinkpanther (Pinkpanther), Wednesday, 14 January 2004 11:02 (twenty-one years ago)

i don't know how to play badminton, but i've already invited you guys to go ice skating and riding, which both count as exercise. or is it just me that is so out of shape that i am in pain after these things?

― colette (a2lette), Wednesday, 14 January 2004 11:11 (twenty-one years ago)

I love ice skating too, but I guess Mark will say I can't like that either cos I'm in Cambridge! ;-)

― Pinkpanther (Pinkpanther), Wednesday, 14 January 2004 11:14 (twenty-one years ago)

Oi, leave it. You know full well what I meant.

I am BANG up for ice skating, though. Would you like to organise a FAP on ice on a new thread, Colette?

― Markelby (Mark C), Wednesday, 14 January 2004 11:28 (twenty-one years ago)

HEY THAT WAS MY PLAN! Wait til I get my real actual ice skates (should be in the next two weeks hurrah)! I'll be going to Streatham Ice Arena at some point.

I'll also take on all-comers at badmington, I RULED at high school.

In my diet news: I turned down a sossidge roll last night. Cor that was hard :)

― Sarah (starry), Wednesday, 14 January 2004 11:31 (twenty-one years ago)

I aint got a badmington racket these days though but if anyone has a spare one to lend WATCH OUT (for me panting very umseeming, like)! Haha Mark I work round by Goodge Street, we could have a LUNCHTIME GAME!

― Sarah (starry), Wednesday, 14 January 2004 11:33 (twenty-one years ago)

I'd love to play badminton, but it's incredibly hard to get a court in London.

― Vicky (Vicky), Wednesday, 14 January 2004 11:35 (twenty-one years ago)

Aww Marky! Most places that have badminton courts have raquets for hire aswell.

― Pinkpanther (Pinkpanther), Wednesday, 14 January 2004 11:39 (twenty-one years ago)

Haha yes we played at the local forces court. There might be one in the sunny Peckham leisure complex though, I'll check it out. And if so, we can have a game and all back to mine to ruin all our good work with BOOZE, heh :)

I'm afraid I won't be able to call you Marky though, it would hurt my eyes. Sorry Baz.

― Sarah (starry), Wednesday, 14 January 2004 12:14 (twenty-one years ago)

So it's someone's b/day at work today & following the grand tradition of b/days they have brought in this nummy chocolate cake. I am abstaining for diet purposes, boo. So she asked me if I'd had any & I said 'thanks but no' then another lady of the 'you looked so much better when you were skinny' fame said 'it's ok, I had a piece for you! I'm sure that'll help.' How on earth is that gonna f@#king help huh? Stoopid big bootied beyatch!

― Pinkpanther (Pinkpanther), Wednesday, 28 January 2004 11:55 (twenty-one years ago)

13 stone! That's 5 pounds off in a month. Slow and steady, that's me. Dude.

― Markelby (Mark C), Friday, 6 February 2004 18:55 (twenty-one years ago)

25 pounds since the first of the year. It is not easy and not fun, but neither is shopping at the big and tall shop or dying of a heart attack.

― Colin Meeder (Mert), Monday, 9 February 2004 22:21 (twenty-one years ago)

I need to drink more water. I'm coming to you guys for support. Thanks.

― gygax! (gygax!), Monday, 9 February 2004 23:55 (twenty-one years ago)

I kept lots of bottles of (tap)water in the fridge, and drank 3 or 4 a day. I like to think it helped make my skin less dry. But now my tap water is gross gross gross, and I don't want to drink it.

Diet support: help me stop eating chocolate covered doughnuts please.

― tokyo rosemary (rosemary), Tuesday, 10 February 2004 06:44 (twenty-one years ago)

just tell yourself the chocolate is poo.

― Bryan (Bryan), Tuesday, 10 February 2004 06:45 (twenty-one years ago)

hmmm

― tokyo rosemary (rosemary), Tuesday, 10 February 2004 06:47 (twenty-one years ago)

ok, not so helpful.

― Bryan (Bryan), Tuesday, 10 February 2004 06:48 (twenty-one years ago)

I have lost 6 pounds in a month! yay me! woo!

― Pinkpanther (Pinkpanther), Tuesday, 10 February 2004 09:05 (twenty-one years ago)

Not eating snacks: for me, it's been a matter of telling myself that I can have them later and actually believing it. I'm doing a "trick the metabolism" type thing where I alternate 10 days of hardcore low-calorie vegan with two weeks of normal (but very much improved from my old habits) eating, so I'm not lying to myself when I say that.

― Colin Meeder (Mert), Tuesday, 10 February 2004 09:45 (twenty-one years ago)

How did pinky overtake me?? I am going to an Italian restaurant tonight after an Italian restaurant on Friday. And I am NOT eating salad. Ever.

― Markelby (Mark C), Tuesday, 10 February 2004 12:45 (twenty-one years ago)

THAT sorta thing is how I overtook you dear boy! booyah!

― Pinkpanther (Pinkpanther), Tuesday, 10 February 2004 12:50 (twenty-one years ago)

I lost half a stone which isn't bad considering I chucked in the diet half way through

― Michael B, Tuesday, 10 February 2004 13:13 (twenty-one years ago)

(oh & someone mentioned that they could notice it and this isn't the sort of person to say this kind of thing lightly!)

― Pinkpanther (Pinkpanther), Tuesday, 10 February 2004 13:14 (twenty-one years ago)

one month passes...

Revive (in a kind of backwards way)

I'm trying to put on weight at the moment cos I'm really skinny (6ft 3", 10.5 stone. My BMI is about 17.5). I've been working out in as much of a constructive fashion as I can manage with what I have at home; top half of body one day, legs the next, a few reps with big weights. I have been eating loads of what I have been told are the right things (complex carbs, protein). I'm probably eating about twice as much as I was 3 months ago.

I've been doing this for about 10-12 weeks. I'm generally a bit more toned. I have what appear to be muscles on my arms for the first time in my life and I have the vague beginnings of a six pack (although it kind of looks like a 5 pack at the moment cos one of the bits is missing).

Have I put on weight?

No, I have not.

I am quite disappointed cos i've been trying really hard.

Some help and sympathy would be very much appreciated.

― hmmm (hmmm), Monday, 5 April 2004 09:11 (twenty-one years ago)

I appear to have lost some weight - some of my clothes are now randomly too big for me, but it doesn't look OR feel like it, perhaps they've just stretched, eh?

Hmm - drink more b33r!

― Sarah (starry), Monday, 5 April 2004 09:13 (twenty-one years ago)

I am not trying to put weight on my belly (although it would look quite funny, for about a weeks or so) otherwise I would just switch to a beer + pie based diet.

― hmmm (hmmm), Monday, 5 April 2004 09:14 (twenty-one years ago)

I was 12 stone 13 before the weekend, and I've eaten loads since, so I'm probably a round 13 stone. I don't EVER want to be more than 13 stone EVER AGAIN.

― Markelby (Mark C), Monday, 5 April 2004 09:15 (twenty-one years ago)

In that case I dunno, unless you want to chunk up your legs and do some biking or whatever. And I'm sure the beer and pie diet would whack some weight on your face sharpish'n'all.

― Sarah (starry), Monday, 5 April 2004 09:16 (twenty-one years ago)

Maybe consult a nutritionist as it can be just as hard to gain weight as it can be to lose it.

I have lost 11 pounds so far & I can only just about notice it. Jeans are too big, older jeans now fit, yay!

― Pinkpanther (Pinkpanther), Monday, 5 April 2004 09:21 (twenty-one years ago)

The weird thing is that I can totally notice that my body has changed shape a bit. 34" trousers now stay up without a belt and t-shirts fit me much better. There just hasn't bee any movement on the scales front.

Biking wouldn't work. Activities which are really aerobic aren't great cos all you end up doing is burning off the extra calories that you've been eating. As far as I'm aware what you need to do is eat LOADS of the right kind of thins and do weights like I described above - a few reps with big heavy weights to tear the muscles a wee bit. When they repair themselves, surrounded by all the extra good stuff from the protein and carbs, they expand. Unfortunately, with me, they appear not to.

― hmmm (hmmm), Monday, 5 April 2004 09:25 (twenty-one years ago)

It's not like loadsa chix0rs don't go wild over skinny men. Skinny toned men = even better, no?

― Markelby (Mark C), Monday, 5 April 2004 09:28 (twenty-one years ago)

maybe that's where I'm going wrong, I'm doing the right kind of thins instead of the right kind of things.

x post - I'm not really doing it for the laydeez. I'm doing it because it's something I've always wanted to do and because it's a bit of a challenge that I want to succeed at.

― hmmm (hmmm), Monday, 5 April 2004 09:31 (twenty-one years ago)

Have you considered creatine? It sounds like a bad idea in almost every respect, but you could put on like a stone without too much difficulty.

― Markelby (Mark C), Monday, 5 April 2004 09:33 (twenty-one years ago)

"Some people report symptoms including headaches, clenched
teeth, and the sound of blood rushing in their ears while using CM.
Creatines effects on blood pressure are an open question

Once you stop creatine supplementation and your body clears it 100% (about 2 month process) you'll probably be back at your old strength and muscle mass levels"

Thanks, but no.

― hmmm (hmmm), Monday, 5 April 2004 09:38 (twenty-one years ago)

I'll ask the biologists at lunchtime for you, eh?

― Sarah (starry), Monday, 5 April 2004 09:38 (twenty-one years ago)

That would be very nice of you. [Which biologists? Why at lunchtime?]

― hmmm (hmmm), Monday, 5 April 2004 09:41 (twenty-one years ago)

http://www.10-7.com/humor/photopages/dui%20underwear%20eater.jpg

― Dada, Monday, 5 April 2004 17:15 (twenty-one years ago)

three months pass...

Uuuuhhh... ignoring that last post, please REVIVE!!!

I got on the scale this morning, and I was 12st 7lb for the first time since last summer!

The best part of breaking up is when you immediately drop a stone. It always happens. I don't know why. Either way, I'm pleased as punch.

(Also, I have noted that one of the side effects of my new anti-inflammatory medication is supposed to be a loss of appetite. Heh!)

― Super-Masonic Black Hole (kate), Friday, 30 July 2004 08:11 (twenty-one years ago)

Well done lady! I started my diet in January (then kind of fell of the wagon for a bit) & now in total i have lost 11 pounds. (not brave enough to put my actual weight!)

― PinXor (Pinkpanther), Friday, 30 July 2004 08:17 (twenty-one years ago)

Hurrah!

The trick to falling off the wagon is to climb back on. Sure, you blow your diet for a few weeks or days, but you have to push yourself back into healthy eating patterns.

I think this is why I've lost weight. I've stopped comfort eating things like cookies and chocolate, and also, I've stopped snacking out on things like cheese and olives in the evening.

Plus, I'm eating mostly vegetables now that I'm only cooking for one. And no more pizzas. We used to just eat pizzas every day without even thinking about it.

― Super-Masonic Black Hole (kate), Friday, 30 July 2004 08:22 (twenty-one years ago)

Yeah pizzas are a killer, but I miss them. *cries* I managed to lose a pound this week even after the w/e's antics. Mind you, it could all catch up next week! *sigh*

― PinXor (Pinkpanther), Friday, 30 July 2004 08:25 (twenty-one years ago)

I made back the minor weight gain of the weekend. And we weren't really bad, except for the booze! Next week I'm on the rag, so I will put on weight, but it will come off again very quickly.

― Super-Masonic Black Hole (kate), Friday, 30 July 2004 08:29 (twenty-one years ago)

i'm hoping to step up my efforts towards weight loss in the next week or so. I've managed to lose 15 pounds in 3 weeks purely by cutting out the crap, so i'll be shopping for a new swimsuit at the weekend and swimming a few hundred metres every day before work.

― leigh (leigh), Friday, 30 July 2004 09:48 (twenty-one years ago)

Blimey, that's loads leigh, well done!

― PinXor (Pinkpanther), Friday, 30 July 2004 09:49 (twenty-one years ago)

I'm a big hefty heifer so there's lots more to go, but it's nice to be moving in the right direction.

― leigh (leigh), Friday, 30 July 2004 10:00 (twenty-one years ago)

Awww, you'll get there lady!!!

― PinXor (Pinkpanther), Friday, 30 July 2004 10:15 (twenty-one years ago)

weight loss starts here.

I've played tennis the past three days for 3 hrs, 1.5 hrs, then 1 hr and have just ran the three miles home from court. and I'm re-starting fffffootball training this week two times a week. keep it up!

― cºzen (Cozen), Sunday, 1 August 2004 13:12 (twenty-one years ago)

I gained about 20 pounds in college, so I need to get started with that! I lost 10 of it so far this summer, but there's 10 to go and one month left, I sort of doubt my ability to do it.

― Maria (Maria), Sunday, 1 August 2004 13:29 (twenty-one years ago)

I'm back to 13 stone, again. Maybe I should just face facts. This is where I'm staying (or getting fatter).

― Markelby (Mark C), Sunday, 1 August 2004 16:49 (twenty-one years ago)

Argh, I hate the minute weight loss and gain over the day. Why is it, I weigh myself first thing in the morning, and I'm 12st 7lbs, and then I weight myself in the afternoon, and I'm nearly 3lbs heavier? I mean, I didn't eat 3lbs weight in lunch.

Maybe it's water retention or something. I should weigh the two litres of water I drink a day, and if that's about 3lbs, then that's the mystery solved.

― Super-Masonic Black Hole (kate), Monday, 2 August 2004 07:06 (twenty-one years ago)

It's best to weigh yourself only once a week if you are trying to diet. Do not do it once a day & certainly don't do it in the evening, unless you consistently weigh yourself in the evening rather than first thing in the morning!

― PinXor (Pinkpanther), Monday, 2 August 2004 07:16 (twenty-one years ago)

I find that weighing myself every day helps to keep me from binge eating.

However, I need to do it once a day, at the same time every day (preferably in the morning) and not obsess over it.

― Super-Masonic Black Hole (kate), Monday, 2 August 2004 07:18 (twenty-one years ago)

I still have done no exercise. HAhahahahahaa. I feel rubbish though. And I should exercise. Yes. But I appear not to be doing so. I don't know how to actually start this unless I fork out for the same GIM as co-workers and make them FORCE ME to go. But htey are all super fit and I am, well, not. Bah. Gheye.

― Sarah where is my password, Monday, 2 August 2004 08:02 (twenty-one years ago)

Moving in with boyfriend (especially, it must be noted, one with cordon bleu cooking skills) is possibly the most effective way of gaining weight, ever - and I'm someone who managed to avoid both the Freshman Fifteen (yo Maria!) and the pearshapedness which encroaches late 20s. Bottom line - fittingly, as that's where the pounds mostly went - I put on nearly 20 pounds. When you're fine-boned and your starting point is seven stone, this is NOT good. I look like I have a bustle that Vivienne Westwood would reject as OTT.

Three weeks ago Ed and I decided to stop eating every kind of meat other than seafood for a whole month (the only wagon-jumping happening on two occasions where friends invited us to dinner). At the weekend I got on a friend's scale and found seven of those pounds had gone (I'd long felt we'd been eating too much beef/lamb/pork).

I haven't really been doing much walking or exercise as I've been singularily deskbound this month, but I've found really hardcore Bikram yoga for cheap nearby and might try that (it's sitting in a 35C room to do Ashtanga yoga really; I do well with steam rooms etc so this might be good detox too). We don't have a scale. I want one.

Ed is craving a steak like mad right now. Only a week to go and I bet it's a much smaller steak than it would have been before.

― suzy (suzy), Monday, 2 August 2004 08:26 (twenty-one years ago)

All of my weight came from getting comfortable & eating & eating & eating with my boy. 2 years worth of weight has to come off!

― PinXor (Pinkpanther), Monday, 2 August 2004 08:28 (twenty-one years ago)

I weighed myself before and after dinner and gained 2lbs after the meal. Btw Suzy, i met C St L on Saturday night, she's great.

― leigh (leigh), Monday, 2 August 2004 08:32 (twenty-one years ago)

Leigh, CSL is FAB, glad you met her.

Nothing's actually happened to my waist, oddly, which makes my arse look even weirder (my waist is 23"). Slight increase in boob size but really, however you slice it, I have the tits of a racing greyhound even now.

Narrow shoulders like mine also do not benefit from log-arm or bingo wings on either side. This will be the last thing that I get rid of as am very poor at arm exercises.

― suzy (suzy), Monday, 2 August 2004 08:37 (twenty-one years ago)

(my waist is 23")
Suzy you are banned from this thread!! ;-)

― PinXor (Pinkpanther), Monday, 2 August 2004 08:46 (twenty-one years ago)

My waist is the reason the weight gain has not driven me completely INSANE. Anyway I told you I was little!

― suzy (suzy), Monday, 2 August 2004 08:58 (twenty-one years ago)

Yeah I'm only jealous! ;-) My weight gain has kind of been all over, so that's good in some respects & bad in others! ah well, 11 pounds down!!

― PinXor (Pinkpanther), Monday, 2 August 2004 09:06 (twenty-one years ago)

bikram yoga is amazing. i had to stop doing it because it was too time-consuming/too expensive, but i loved it. there wasn't much weight loss, but it made me feel better than any other kind of exericse i've tried.

― lauren (laurenp), Monday, 2 August 2004 12:05 (twenty-one years ago)

Lauren, I reckon yoga won't lose me weight - the other positive changes will sort that out - but it will give my bloody arms and thighs some tone without lifting weights. Don't like weights.

The bikram yoga place on Old Street costs £10 for a card that buys 10 90-minute sessions. When you're back, you can come along if you like!

Mission two: cut waaaay down on the smoking of aromatic combustibles. Which is hard because a) I enjoy this and b) they are readily available here.

― suzy (suzy), Monday, 2 August 2004 12:26 (twenty-one years ago)

next time i'm in town, you've got a yoga buddy. that's ridiculously cheap!

― lauren (laurenp), Monday, 2 August 2004 13:55 (twenty-one years ago)

I know but my friend K says their hall is their own, they're hippies basically, and thus the non-profit approach.

― suzy (suzy), Monday, 2 August 2004 14:00 (twenty-one years ago)

All of my weight came from getting comfortable & eating & eating & eating with my boy.

But at least it was a fun gain! :-)

While I would like my tum to get a bit flatter here, otherwise if I posted anything you would all berate me and say I have nothing to worry about. So I won't post anything.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 2 August 2004 14:04 (twenty-one years ago)

Dude weight is relative. My mum says she has weight to lose when she is the weight I'd like to be!! aarrrgghhh! It's about how you feel. My sympathies with regards to icky weight issues are with you, in lieu of a post!!

― PinXor (Pinkpanther), Monday, 2 August 2004 14:06 (twenty-one years ago)

Yeah, my "hideously overweight" right now is my mum's ideal target weight.

― Super-Masonic Black Hole (kate), Monday, 2 August 2004 14:13 (twenty-one years ago)

I need to lose weight. I think I'm getting old as it seems to be getting harder and harder to do this.

― Homosexual II (Homosexual II), Monday, 2 August 2004 14:16 (twenty-one years ago)

My "dieting" "plan" lately has consisted of getting sauced every single night, passing out on the couch, getting some giant, nasty, gutbusting, fried-ass lunch and eating the entire thing, turning self off of food for the rest of the day, lather, rinse, repeat. It's working a treat, but god help.

― roxymuzak (roxymuzak), Monday, 2 August 2004 14:33 (twenty-one years ago)

Mandee, you are so otm. I lost weight so quickly before, sometimes 4 pounds a week, but this time I am lucky to lose 1/2 - 1 pound. It's better (theoretically) as a slow weight loss means there is more chance of you keeping it off, but we'll see!

― PinXor (Pinkpanther), Monday, 2 August 2004 14:35 (twenty-one years ago)

you need to eat more fortune cookies.

xpost

― ken c (ken c), Monday, 2 August 2004 14:36 (twenty-one years ago)

i've been sticking the the Ipso Fatso diet for the past two months, i'm hoping that regular exercise and constant excretion would help me keep my slim figure. if not then hey it's summer i'm supposed to eat loads before hibernation.

― ken c (ken c), Monday, 2 August 2004 14:38 (twenty-one years ago)

Ken, you make me physically ill. I mean that in the most loving way possible.

― roxymuzak (roxymuzak), Monday, 2 August 2004 14:46 (twenty-one years ago)

that's one way of keeping slim!

― ken c (ken c), Monday, 2 August 2004 14:48 (twenty-one years ago)

I don't think I knew about this thread, but let me brag because I've got to somewhere.

In January I was 172 lb, out of breath climbing the stairs
In August I'm 143 lb, running 6 miles /day.

Yay! I can gaze into the depths of my belly button! Omphalos, omphalos, omphalos!

― x j e r e m y i n f l u x (x Jeremy), Tuesday, 3 August 2004 03:17 (twenty-one years ago)

Oh good God. I've just been to register with a doctor and they weighed me and I am about ten pounds heavier than I thought I was, which is still four pounds heavier than I wanted to be, so that's a stone! A whole bloody stone of cheese and red wine!! I want to cry, I feel rather hysterical.

― Anna (Anna), Wednesday, 4 August 2004 09:15 (twenty-one years ago)

Support me someone!!!!!!

― Anna (Anna), Wednesday, 4 August 2004 09:20 (twenty-one years ago)

Hey hon, don't you worry about it - you don't look like you need to lose a pound! But if you do want to, then at least this thread will give you somewhere to discuss tactics and keep us updated - it does help, especially when you see other buggers successfully shifting masses :)

― Markelby (Mark C), Wednesday, 4 August 2004 09:22 (twenty-one years ago)

Support, support, support!

Stop with the cheese, or at least limit it! Ditto the red wine! And start walking places! Get off the bus a stop early, etc.

― Super-Masonic Black Hole (kate), Wednesday, 4 August 2004 09:23 (twenty-one years ago)

I really didn't know how much it would affect me. I feel like crying. I should be hunting for my dictaphone, but instead all I can think about is this sea of excess me. I stopped using scales (deliberately) after some rather screwy mad periods, but that's it now. I'm going to have to get some. I cannnot, cannot let myself get this way again.

― Anna (Anna), Wednesday, 4 August 2004 09:26 (twenty-one years ago)

Both my male housemates weigh less than me and one of them is 6'2"!

― Anna (Anna), Wednesday, 4 August 2004 09:27 (twenty-one years ago)

(Thanks Kate and Mark)

― Anna (Anna), Wednesday, 4 August 2004 09:27 (twenty-one years ago)

Oh God. I'm horrible. But now I have to find my dicatphone and go to Bristol. I don't feel sane at all.

― Anna (Anna), Wednesday, 4 August 2004 09:28 (twenty-one years ago)

Anna, the best way BY FAR to lose weight is to do regular aerobic exercise. Do you do this at the moment? I've found that eating a normal (not excessive) diet and doing proper amounts of exercise makes me lose weight quickly and semi-permanently. My problem right now id a full time job :/

(x-post you SO shouldn't be worrying so much about this, you look lovely)

― Markelby (Mark C), Wednesday, 4 August 2004 09:30 (twenty-one years ago)

Do the pescatarian for a month, I've lost half a stone and have been doing sod-all exercise. And HALVE your bouze intake.

Could we have discovered the Freelancer 15?

― suzy (suzy), Wednesday, 4 August 2004 09:35 (twenty-one years ago)

Anna, I feel your pain. Weight just kinda creeps up on you til BAM right on your ass! Try cutting out the wine during the week & trying to eat more sensibly. New pots, plenty of fresh fruit & veg. Oh & what's the other thing, oh yes exercise. Most ppl don't like this, so you gotta find something that suits you. Getting off the bus early is a good one, but this could just lead you to wanting more wine!! So, I reckon the best thing for you would be to go dancing! Surely it's something that you enjoy & it's great for shedding some weight!

― PinXor (Pinkpanther), Wednesday, 4 August 2004 09:40 (twenty-one years ago)

I fear i may have stalled - i've got a week till my next weigh in but i don't feel any slimmer.

― leigh (leigh), Wednesday, 4 August 2004 09:49 (twenty-one years ago)

Leigh, what diet are you doing? I have a weigh-in tomorrow! *gulp*

― PinXor (Pinkpanther), Wednesday, 4 August 2004 09:52 (twenty-one years ago)

mark c you should maybe come play football on a sunday when you don't have to work

(offer goes for all others actually)

― ken c (ken c), Wednesday, 4 August 2004 09:53 (twenty-one years ago)

I'm not on any particular diet, just cutting out all the crap and loading up on fruit and veg. I suppose my evening meals roughly follow the zone in terms of quantities of carbs, protein and fat but i'm not visiting classes or anything. I go for dinner to my friend's house every couple of weeks and go by her scales as i don't have my own. I really need to starting doing some proper exercise though - i bought a new swimsuit on Friday so have no excuse.

― leigh (leigh), Wednesday, 4 August 2004 09:57 (twenty-one years ago)

Ah, when you said weigh in i thought you went to classes! Hm exercise, i so gotta get to it. After I move I'm gonna get on my bike again!

― PinXor (Pinkpanther), Wednesday, 4 August 2004 10:03 (twenty-one years ago)

When I was younger I used to weigh 80-85 kilos (176-187 pounds) but for the last five years I've weighed about 65 kilos (143 pounds). How did I lose the weight? 8 hours of school and 3 hours of cleaning up an office right after that, every day from monday to friday, for six months. I wouldn't recommend it to anyone though. Of course, six years of being a vegan has also helped me to cut down all the unhealthy stuff.

― Tuomas (Tuomas), Wednesday, 4 August 2004 10:10 (twenty-one years ago)

Also, check out Walter Willett's book 'Eat, Drink, and Be Healthy,' published by the school of Public Policy at Harvard. It's not a diet book, per se, but it's incredibly informative re. all nutritional matters. It's taken on the significance of the bible in my apartment:

http://images.amazon.com/images/P/0743223225.01._PE20_PIdp-schmooS,TopRight,7,-26_SCMZZZZZZZ_.jpg

― x j e r e m y (x Jeremy), Wednesday, 4 August 2004 12:15 (twenty-one years ago)

The bikram yoga place on Old Street costs £10 for a card that buys 10 90-minute sessions. When you're back, you can come along if you like!

suzy, can i come with you sometime? i'd like to try it, i keep starting yoga classes and then slacking off, think it would help to go with someone!

anna, i can't believe that you're at all overweight! you're absolutely tiny and look fantastic whenever i see you. don't let yourself get all stressed out about it...

― colette (a2lette), Wednesday, 4 August 2004 12:55 (twenty-one years ago)

I feel ill.

― cºzen (Cozen), Wednesday, 4 August 2004 18:46 (twenty-one years ago)

Me too. I am eating as healthy as I can, I go to the gym for the aerobic shit 3-4 times a week. I get fatter. My pulse is lower and faster to recover, my blood pressure is v low, but I am fat. This is either because I am a mutant pod-person or because the medication I am taking slows your metabolism. The Dr, dietician he referred me to, counsellor, et al, seem to be undecided as to which it is. Last time I saw my counsellor he suggested I need a strategy for dealing with the weight gain that doesn't involve exercising more or eating less, learning to live with it in some way. How can I.

― anonymuose (isadora), Wednesday, 4 August 2004 22:01 (twenty-one years ago)

What do you do if you can't get exercise and are already eating under 1200 calories a day? I'm staying at a constant weight that happens to be about 20 pounds over where I'm comfortable. If I ate less, I'd have a grumbly stomach all the time, and i would have a lot of trouble fixing meals that small or cutting all the tea and coffee out of my diet. And I'm going running a couple times a week, but it's been raining probably 4 days a week for the past 3 weeks, and I don't have money for a gym. Advice please.

― Maria (Maria), Wednesday, 4 August 2004 22:59 (twenty-one years ago)

ps i do not drink more than a glass of wine a week, and my main meat consumption comes from pepperoni sandwiches two to three times a week.

― Maria (Maria), Wednesday, 4 August 2004 23:01 (twenty-one years ago)

get exercise

― oops (Oops), Wednesday, 4 August 2004 23:04 (twenty-one years ago)

Make sure, Maria, that you're cutting all the refined starches from your diet - not all starches, but white flour (hell, cut out all wheat flour) potatoes, anything with a super-high glycemic index. This is probably old-hat news, but eating rawer and less processed food will do more for your sense of satiety while offering less calories. I'm at about 1200 myself, and if I didn't eat lots of weird, filling grains (rediscovered unprocessed oatmeal lately), I'd go out of my gourd. Also, try for push-ups / sit-ups / leg-lifts / crunches at home: set a very challenging number and stick to it, and there's never an excuse to let a day pass without doing them.

― x j e r e m y (x Jeremy), Thursday, 5 August 2004 01:46 (twenty-one years ago)

I tried on all my holiday clothes last night that were previously too tight or didn't do up at all and they fit now! I'm very pleased as i've only got 3 weeks till i go away.

― leigh (leigh), Friday, 6 August 2004 08:19 (twenty-one years ago)

Not to keep going on about this, but Joe said last night that I looked fantastic.

He did actually notice how much weight I'd lost. He said that he'd been very concerned about how much weight I'd put on during the last bit of our relationship. I must admit that he was always nice about it, and not mean about it, and he was supportive of my weight, no matter what it got up to. But he was relieved and happy to see it coming off.

― Super-Masonic Black Hole (kate), Friday, 6 August 2004 08:23 (twenty-one years ago)

Yay leigh, well done! I lost another pound this week, so that's a total of 12, so i am back to where i started before i fell off the wagon!

― PinXor (Pinkpanther), Friday, 6 August 2004 08:24 (twenty-one years ago)

I'm going to jump in too, being in the process of losing winter weight /shakes fist at winter. I find I've had to not only keep up with regular exercise (which I enjoy, so that's good - weight lifting and some running and a fair amount of cycling), but really cut back on the refined starches (as said above) and eat almost no sugar. Whole grains and low-glycemic fruits are fine and necessary for me, but I usually only eat them with dinner and stick with protein, fat and green veg at breakfast and lunch. I do things like eat whole flake oatmeal with unsweetened cocoa powder in it, sweetened with stevia. I think it's all about moderation and figuring out how your body works really.

― rrrobyn (rrrobyn), Friday, 6 August 2004 20:57 (twenty-one years ago)

I got weighed last night and i've now lost 1 1/2 stones.

― leigh (leigh), Friday, 13 August 2004 07:15 (twenty-one years ago)

Congratulations! Weh-hoo!

Though I weighed myself this morning, and after this week's drinking, I seem to have gained two pounds. :-(

― Super-Masonic Black Hole (kate), Friday, 13 August 2004 07:17 (twenty-one years ago)

A couple of pounds is ok, you'll shed that in no time.

I'm wearing a pair of jeans that i previously couldn't get into which i'll probably live to regret by the end of the day. They're ok when i'm standing up but a little tight when i sit down.

― leigh (leigh), Friday, 13 August 2004 07:48 (twenty-one years ago)

Losing weight is like buying a whole new wardrobe! That's the best part of it!

I tried on a jacket that I got in the ILX clothing swap the other day. It's still not comfortable enough to be wearable, but I can actually get it *on* now, which I couldn't before. :-)

When I can wear my Mrs. Peel/Suzi Quattro leather outfit again, then I will be happy.

― Super-Masonic Black Hole (kate), Friday, 13 August 2004 07:50 (twenty-one years ago)

I'm just glad i can get back into my holiday clothes. I've still got a couple of weeks before i go so hopefully i'll be able drop a few extra pounds in that time.

― leigh (leigh), Friday, 13 August 2004 08:20 (twenty-one years ago)

sorry i'm kind of just posting without reading through too many of the previous posts . . . but this week i can't stop craving cookies. i want cookies every day. do i succumb or curb it? i've been biking a lot, so that's how i've been justifying it thus far. i'm nervous that all i'll do this weekend is bake various cookies & proceed to eat them all.

― kelsey (kelstarry), Friday, 13 August 2004 16:46 (twenty-one years ago)

I was REALLY craving chocolate chip cookies fresh from the oven, but every time I would go grocery shopping, I would just pick up all the packages of cookie dough, cringe at the fat content, put them back down, and sigh to myself.

So, feeling deprived, I got some this last trip. But I promised myself only to bake 6 cookies at a time - 3 for me, 3 for Nick - as a little treat once in a while. This is a big step for me because it's not all or nothing. Normally, I would have made all 20 cookes and the two of us would have finished them off within 24 hours.

So, yeah, I've been working on losing weight for over a month now and I've been losing about a pound a week, which isn't much but is remarkable for me. I can wear a US size 12 now! This is great news for me. I've been wearing 14s for the past 5 years or so.

My main plan of attack is to try to eat relatively healthily and to take the EL as much as possible to work instead of driving (and then not taking the bus so much from the station to work) and make myself go on lots of walks.

― Sarah McLusky (coco), Friday, 13 August 2004 20:16 (twenty-one years ago)

Gah - I read this thread and decided to do some push ups, and on the first one I pulled the muscle at the front of my left armpit :(

― Markelby (Mark C), Friday, 13 August 2004 20:37 (twenty-one years ago)

Update: am still fatty.

― Homosexual II (Homosexual II), Friday, 13 August 2004 21:19 (twenty-one years ago)

three weeks pass...

I have started my diet yesterday! I need to lose 30 lbs.

― tokyo rosemary (rosemary), Thursday, 9 September 2004 14:04 (twenty-one years ago)

Once you get into the mindset you'll be fine.

(12 stone 9 and a half pounds, as off this morning. Heading the right way and still focused...)

― Markelby (Mark C), Thursday, 9 September 2004 14:08 (twenty-one years ago)

I am joining the GIM.

And... this will be...

VERY SOON!!

I just have to work up the nerve to budget that into my, well, BUDGET first.

Me on diets = vvv bad idea sadly.

― Starry (hello chickens), Thursday, 9 September 2004 14:09 (twenty-one years ago)

Rosemary - what techniques/tactics are you using?

― Markelby (Mark C), Thursday, 9 September 2004 14:10 (twenty-one years ago)

After moving in entertaining, i really need to get back on my diet. *sigh*

― PinXor (Pinkpanther), Thursday, 9 September 2004 14:10 (twenty-one years ago)

I reckon what will work is if I co-ordinate a big table with everyone competitively slimming, and print an update every week with graphs and shit!

― Markelby (Mark C), Thursday, 9 September 2004 14:17 (twenty-one years ago)

Dude, no way!

― PinXor (Pinkpanther), Thursday, 9 September 2004 14:23 (twenty-one years ago)

I'd do that, but you are aware I'd tell you my starting weight was a LOT LOWER :)

― Starry (hello chickens), Thursday, 9 September 2004 14:56 (twenty-one years ago)

on the BMI I am .1 (just!) overweight, I am determined to lose 1 stone 4 lbs now which would take me down to 11 and help me gain the yard or two of pace I've lost.

― cºzen (Cozen), Thursday, 9 September 2004 20:59 (twenty-one years ago)

Right now my BMI is 27, and at my goal weight it will be 23.

Markelby, I have rejoined Weight Watchers so it is all about keeping thorough track of what I eat. What also helps is drinking 6-8 cups of water a day (which I have to do anyway, thank you "renal colic"), it fills you up!

― tokyo rosemary (rosemary), Friday, 10 September 2004 01:06 (twenty-one years ago)

Hooray! I just joined a gym. My BMI is 22, so if I tried to lose any weight, friends would lock me in a room with donuts until I gave up that idea. I like Catriona, my instructor for today. She's cool and funny. I hate leg presses and assuming a position more suited for sodomy than pushing a weight with your legs. Still! It's going to be good.

― edward o (edwardo), Friday, 10 September 2004 01:11 (twenty-one years ago)

Yes, hurrah for joining a gym! A suggestion: Machines at the gym have their place, I guess, but for overall strength for legs, butt, back and even stomach do squats and deadlifts. You can superset them with machines or use machines on other workout days, certainly, but I'm a big fan of free weights - they also help with your balance and feelin' tuff :) see: http://www.exrx.net and http://www.stumptuous.com/weights.html for examples (though I'm sure your trainer will show you too if you ask.)

― rrrobyn (rrrobyn), Friday, 10 September 2004 01:34 (twenty-one years ago)

BMI 20.2, but I have no muscles at all :(

― x j e r e m y (x Jeremy), Friday, 10 September 2004 01:39 (twenty-one years ago)

I was surprised to weigh myself the other day and discover that I had managed not to actually *gain* any weight, despite the damage of a week incapacitated and comfort/boredom eating. So I guess that's good. It's just all the drinking and the crying has made my face puffy as heck, so I still look like I've put on weight even if I haven't.

― Super-Masonic Black Hole (kate), Friday, 10 September 2004 08:18 (twenty-one years ago)

Get yourself a lovely face pack to revive kate, you'll feel all lovely afterwards!!

― PinXor (Pinkpanther), Friday, 10 September 2004 08:22 (twenty-one years ago)

My upper body strength is so non-existent I don't think I could go on ANY of the weight machines yet, but I would like to do SOMETHING about that so I'll guess I'll bring it up in my induction. I was mostly planning to do the odd cardio class every week and HOPEFULLY some of the yoga and pilates classes, although they are all early in the MORNING, ugh, and in the gym I thought I'd just run/cycle a bit. I like the look of the SPINNING CLASS!!! but think it wd seriously kill me with my current level of fitness...

― Starry (hello chickens), Friday, 10 September 2004 08:38 (twenty-one years ago)

Neat! I am back within the normal range of BMI (I'm 24) and a whopping 61% of American males weigh more than me!!!

BMI calculator

(last time I went to the gym (one saturday when Sarah was going anyway) I did the weight machines and ended up with agonisingly stiff arm and torso muscles. However, my legs were just fine, despite pushing 200kg. I was pleased with that, even though I have no idea if that's all that)

― Markelby (Mark C), Friday, 10 September 2004 08:40 (twenty-one years ago)

That's 61% of American males of the same height and age. Still a good thing.

― Markelby (Mark C), Friday, 10 September 2004 08:41 (twenty-one years ago)

I've not been on the scales lately but i'm hoping i've reached the 2 stone mark. There was a bit of a blip when i was in Berlin with fried breakfasts which were hopefully negated by the miles that we were walking each day but my clothes are hanging on me now so i don't think i've gained any weight. I just need to wait for my friend who has scales to come back from holiday to find out.

― leigh (leigh), Friday, 10 September 2004 08:44 (twenty-one years ago)

I weighed myself again about a week ago and found I had lost 5lbs. Hurrah. However, this week's mentalist eating (late night tapas, nothing all day due to work insanity followed by humous binge) may have set me back a little.

― Anna (Anna), Friday, 10 September 2004 09:16 (twenty-one years ago)

Bloody hell, whilst most of America seems to weigh more than me (my height, age, gender etc) the ideal body weight calculator tells me I should be 115lbs aka 8st 3lbs. I haven't weighed that since I was bloody 14!

― Anna (Anna), Friday, 10 September 2004 09:26 (twenty-one years ago)

My BMI is 23.

― Anna (Anna), Friday, 10 September 2004 09:29 (twenty-one years ago)

I don't even dare to look (same goes for my bank balance chiz)

― Starry (hello chickens), Friday, 10 September 2004 09:31 (twenty-one years ago)

Actually, the really useful thing I've been doing is keeping a food diary. I use it to plan meals and shopping, but I also record what I actually ate, including the slip ups, but also any time people have said nice things about the way I look. I also have a weekly goal, usually can I fit into a certain item of clothing for a particular social event.

― Anna (Anna), Friday, 10 September 2004 09:32 (twenty-one years ago)

God, I've got to lose nearly a stone in just over a month if I want to get into any of my gig clothes by our next gig. HELP!!! How can I do this without the help of amphetamines?

― Super-Masonic Black Hole (kate), Friday, 10 September 2004 09:33 (twenty-one years ago)

Walk every where. Also, Kate, don't get hung up on the actual weight thing. Just keep trying the clothes on. If they fit, they fit.

― Anna (Anna), Friday, 10 September 2004 09:43 (twenty-one years ago)

I already *do* walk everywhere. Sigh. I guess I need to stop drinking so much and take speed instead. That's how my "sister" and I used to do it. Except, well, we didn't stop drinking, we just stopped eating.

Ah, rock'n'roll, it was shite, really, wasn't it?

― Super-Masonic Black Hole (kate), Friday, 10 September 2004 09:45 (twenty-one years ago)

Yeah, drinking less has done me great favours. I mean I still drink more than I should (14 units a week? Hello?), but I have pretty much halved the amount.

― Anna (Anna), Friday, 10 September 2004 09:46 (twenty-one years ago)

14 MUST be a mishearing of 40. Much more realistic.

(also, the 14 units for a chix0r is only the British Medical Association's recommendation. The government recommends 21 (and 28 for men)!)

― Markelby (Mark C), Friday, 10 September 2004 09:51 (twenty-one years ago)

That helps loads def. I keep a food diary too anna, it really helps me.

― PinXor (Pinkpanther), Friday, 10 September 2004 09:52 (twenty-one years ago)

I am actually 24.8! on weight! I still want to lose 1 stone 5 lbs though.

― cºzen (Cozen), Friday, 10 September 2004 11:56 (twenty-one years ago)

Are you no longer a skinny fucker, Dave?

― Markelby (Mark C), Friday, 10 September 2004 12:05 (twenty-one years ago)

I want to lose two stone.

As I type I am sucking on a lollipop.

GIM ON MONDAY :)

― Starry (hello chickens), Friday, 10 September 2004 12:23 (twenty-one years ago)

It's only sugar, ya can burn it off!

― edward o (edwardo), Friday, 10 September 2004 12:24 (twenty-one years ago)

Are you crazy? She's turn into a Starry brulee!

― Markelby (Mark C), Friday, 10 September 2004 12:29 (twenty-one years ago)

*sigh* I'm only paying £25 a month for my gym membership, but I haven't been for a very long time, cos I have no motivation on my own :0( The only time I ever went to the gym regularly was when I went with a colleague, but then I moved jobs and location. I get bored and self-conscious too easily, and am far too soft and give up easily. I reckon if I had a couple of 1:1 sessions with an instructor I might stick at it, but they're really expensive and I'm broke.

― Vicky (Vicky), Friday, 10 September 2004 12:38 (twenty-one years ago)

I get a FREE gym at my work! Anyhow this week I dedicated myself to eating better. I've also gone to the gym three times and I feel pretty good about muhself. All I gotta do is like, keep it up. Oh and congrats to those who lost some weight!

― Towelette Pettatucci (Homosexual II), Friday, 10 September 2004 12:43 (twenty-one years ago)

Gym? Diet? Man, this is all sounding like too much hard work. I like the sound of the INDIEROCK CRACK DIET so much better. Oh yes. Off to Mother with me. Where's my cowboy hat?

― Super-Masonic Black Hole (kate), Friday, 10 September 2004 12:44 (twenty-one years ago)

I need to join the gym now that it's going to get cold here. I've been running outside all summer, which has been great - if I can motivate myself to run, I automatically eat less/better. Lately, however, I've been slacking on the running (only once or twice a week), and then I starting eating frozen pizzas, and it's all downhill from there.

― Jordan (Jordan), Friday, 10 September 2004 12:58 (twenty-one years ago)

Yesterday, my boss found out I'm trying to lose weight, so he introduced me to this dusty old treadmill back in our warehouse. He got up on it in his suit and started running. Meanwhile, one of my coworkers came out there to get something and was like, "Uh, Sarah, I thought you were slammed with work?" and I just shrugged my shoulders. He's always trying to get me to hang out with him instead of work. It's pretty sad.

― Sarah McLusky (coco), Friday, 10 September 2004 12:59 (twenty-one years ago)

I just weighed myself in the bathroom at work (of COURSE there's a scale as I work primarily with women) and did the BMI calculator and I have a BMI of 21.3.

― Sarah McLusky (coco), Friday, 10 September 2004 13:13 (twenty-one years ago)

Fuck that BMI dingus. I weigh basically the same as before I starting exercising, but I know I've lost a lot of gut and gotten in much better shape. It'll still say "too many pounds=you're overweight", though.

― Jordan (Jordan), Friday, 10 September 2004 13:23 (twenty-one years ago)

This thread is making me want to go running right now, which sounds good, but is actually bad since I'm at work all day and then I'm just drinking gin and watching movies with friends all night.

― Jordan (Jordan), Friday, 10 September 2004 13:25 (twenty-one years ago)

Cripes - Vicky, my monthly fee would be the inverse of yours and that's WITH a discount!! Arrrrgh...

― Starry (hello chickens), Friday, 10 September 2004 13:25 (twenty-one years ago)

the problem with the bmi is that some people will have lots of fat that makes up their weight, and some people will have lots of muscle, and the BMI calculation can't take that into consideration.

― Vicky (Vicky), Friday, 10 September 2004 13:30 (twenty-one years ago)

I want some muscles.

― Sarah McLusky (coco), Friday, 10 September 2004 13:45 (twenty-one years ago)

I've put on quite a lot of leg muscle over the summer which would probably have upped my weight by a pound or two. My thighs are hott.

― Markelby (Mark C), Friday, 10 September 2004 13:49 (twenty-one years ago)

i've been biking to work & back nearly every day for the last two months & am feeling frustrated that my body hasn't changed all that much. i weigh the same, my legs are slightly firmer. a couple of weeks ago i started running . . . kind of. i ran three miles last sunday which felt like a big deal. but i ran the whole thing. and i just have so much trouble getting motivated to do it, even though i know i can. and i can't afford a gym membership & it seems that the more i think about where i want my body to be at in terms of weight & muscle tone, etc. the more i want to eat a lot of crap. usually i'm so good about what i eat, but lately . . . not.
i'm feeling so frustrated today!

― kelsey (kelstarry), Friday, 10 September 2004 14:04 (twenty-one years ago)

(the bike ride is about 15-16 miles a day)

― kelsey (kelstarry), Friday, 10 September 2004 14:04 (twenty-one years ago)

Tha's good going - I cycle 10-20 miles each weekend, sometimes briskly, sometimes flat out (I race around Richmond Park, on the paths rather than the road - I did 31:10 last time, and it's about 8 miles).

― Markelby (Mark C), Friday, 10 September 2004 14:15 (twenty-one years ago)

where is richmond park?
do you race using a track bike or a geared one?

― kelsey (kelstarry), Friday, 10 September 2004 14:34 (twenty-one years ago)

I am quite skinny still, mark, 12 stone 5 lbs for 5' 10" is still skinny but I have a touch of a belly 'earned' over this excruciating summer doing nothing and football training shows up the lack of a yard or two that I once had and want back.

― cºzen (Cozen), Friday, 10 September 2004 16:00 (twenty-one years ago)

Richmond Park is in southwest London, very near my house. It's the biggest park in the city. It used to be a hunting ground for King Henry VIII.

What I'm wondering now is: will I ever NOT have a fat/foldy belly when I sit?

― Markelby (Mark C), Friday, 10 September 2004 22:22 (twenty-one years ago)

yes, probably. even my lunatic, perpetually dieting best friend who is 5'9" and around 116lbs has a tiny pooch when she's sitting down.

― lauren (laurenp), Saturday, 11 September 2004 03:30 (twenty-one years ago)

i expect so mark - i have one, and i think i'm reasonably slim (as are you, come to think of it).

― toby (tsg20), Saturday, 11 September 2004 06:38 (twenty-one years ago)

(Toby lies by the way, what he has is skin, not fat.)

― Anna (Anna), Saturday, 11 September 2004 12:18 (twenty-one years ago)

Stupid question: How does one go about getting rid of excess skin?

― edward o (edwardo), Saturday, 11 September 2004 12:58 (twenty-one years ago)

Nothing wrong with a bit of fat/foldy belly (he says, sitting down and noticing his).

BMI 20.2, but I have no muscles at all :(

Jeremy, relax. Ya look fine. Muscles are usually overrated. Hell, look at me!

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Saturday, 11 September 2004 14:38 (twenty-one years ago)

I've battled with my weight my whole damn life - I was a pudgy little boy, then a skinny teenager, and it's been up-and-down ever since. My body type is short and naturally a little broad, and I don't "wear" extra weight particularly well.

Last fall I shed a good twenty-five pounds and kept it off until this past February, when I got dumped and dealt with the ensuing emotional fallout by pubbing almost every night. It was never more than a couple of pints in one sitting, but the calories do add up. Thankfully, I realized what I was doing to myself and stopped before I gained everything back. (Funny, but I'd never thought of myself as someone who turns to food and drink under duress, but this is EXACTLY what happened - weird moment of self-awareness there...)

This fall I'm looking to drop an inch off my tummy and firm up my chest and limbs. Wish me luck!

(Oh, and if you were wondering, the Atkins diet DOES work if you buy and read the book, and follow it properly. The much-ballyhooed "carb-free" portion of the diet is actually only a two-week "induction" phase, after which starches and fruits are slowly reintroduced. One of Atkins' key arguments was that a typical Western diet is over-reliant on simple sugars, and that by culling unnecessary breads, pastas, and rices, one can stave off weight gain. Speaking as someone who was a pad-thai-for-lunch-spaghetti-for-dinner guy for years, I noticed a drastic difference when I stopped eating noodles every damn day, and even though I'm not really on Atkins anymore, I have seriously curbed my starch intake, and I think this is one of the reasons I didn't COMPLETELY pork out over the winter...)

― Tantrum The Cat (Tantrum The Cat), Saturday, 11 September 2004 15:13 (twenty-one years ago)

I've reached the 2 stone mark (in 2 months. Only another half dozen to go and i'll be on the large side of acceptable for my height.

― leigh (leigh), Tuesday, 14 September 2004 08:06 (twenty-one years ago)

Well done Leigh!! I've got about a stone left to lose, so fingers crossed I can get motivated again & get this last bit off for good!

― PinXor (Pinkpanther), Tuesday, 14 September 2004 08:10 (twenty-one years ago)

I had a fair-sized meal last night and some beer and put on a POUND. So I now have two pounds to lose in three days!!

― Markelby (Mark C), Tuesday, 14 September 2004 08:46 (twenty-one years ago)

Why do you have to lose the weight in three days? Are you participating in a boxing match?

― Leon Czolgosz (Nicole), Tuesday, 14 September 2004 12:25 (twenty-one years ago)

Eloping?

Going to the beach?

Idiot alert - I've forgotten what a stone is - 7 pounds?

― Sarah McLusky (coco), Tuesday, 14 September 2004 12:50 (twenty-one years ago)

Nope, my beloved returns from hols in three days and I want to be FOXY for her!

A stone is 14 pounds.

― Markelby (Mark C), Tuesday, 14 September 2004 12:53 (twenty-one years ago)

i've been visualising 28 bags of sugar to try and comprehend what i've lost.

― leigh (leigh), Tuesday, 14 September 2004 13:00 (twenty-one years ago)

What's your daily recommended caloric intake again? I always forget.

― Jordan (Jordan), Tuesday, 14 September 2004 13:07 (twenty-one years ago)

Something like 2000 for women and about 2500 for men. About 1500 if you're trying to lose weight.

― leigh (leigh), Tuesday, 14 September 2004 13:10 (twenty-one years ago)

It's about 20% of 1/28th of what Leigh's lost.

― Markelby (Mark C), Tuesday, 14 September 2004 13:13 (twenty-one years ago)

The maths went totally wrong there - I was trying to be clever about how many calories are in a bag of sugar and I have NO idea. Ignore me.

― Markelby (Mark C), Tuesday, 14 September 2004 13:14 (twenty-one years ago)

Markleby you could try shaving off all your body hair and taking several laxatives.

I hope everyone forgives me for what might appear to be just blatant buttering-up, but Starry Sarah I had somehow just assumed you'd already been going to the gym because you look *ahem* well fit.

― You've Got to Pick Up Every Stitch (tracerhand), Tuesday, 14 September 2004 13:18 (twenty-one years ago)

tantrum the cat OTM, although it still all seems too insane for me

― stockholm cindy (Jody Beth Rosen), Tuesday, 14 September 2004 13:22 (twenty-one years ago)

I've never understood why autumn brings out this kind of talk.

― You've Got to Pick Up Every Stitch (tracerhand), Tuesday, 14 September 2004 13:36 (twenty-one years ago)

raise your hand if you oinked out on labor day

― stockholm cindy (Jody Beth Rosen), Tuesday, 14 September 2004 13:42 (twenty-one years ago)

Can I just say, bloody hell I'm hungry. Dinner at 5:30, dinner at 5:30. (I am going out, since I am eating early i have forgone an afternoon fruit snack. I am also being austere today because I am going out to a free drinks do ... with finger food ... i.e. total diet breaker.)

However, in other news, on Saturday I wore a pair of cropped trousers I haven't worn for four years. Admittedly when I was at university they sat on my hips, now they are on my waist, but still, I've not been able to button them without a weird flesh bulge for ages. I can also fit back into my favourite (and smallest) vintage cocktail dress. I can't sit down yet, but standing up it looks quite nice. Hurrah. Progress.

― Anna (Anna), Tuesday, 14 September 2004 14:26 (twenty-one years ago)

Oh, I had some brats during Labor Day weekend. And we had a going away party for a friend, and someone from my band made a mountain of ribs and country ribs. Not to mention the beer. That's okay though, I would have felt bad if I DIDN'T do it.

― Jordan (Jordan), Tuesday, 14 September 2004 14:29 (twenty-one years ago)

I did go running before work this morning and did the 10 pushups/10 situps, 9/9, etc. that some ilx0r mentioned once (I think it's brilliant), but I've been eating pretty crap foods lately.

― Jordan (Jordan), Tuesday, 14 September 2004 14:31 (twenty-one years ago)

What's that, Jordan?

Fitting into clothes rules! I even get to safety pin a bunch of my skirts because otherwise they'd fall off!

― Sarah McLusky (coco), Tuesday, 14 September 2004 15:23 (twenty-one years ago)

I have eaten 4 biscuits and a Finger of Fudge today on top of breakfast and lunch :(

I am not really breaking a diet because I'm not on one as no point, just leads to me being miserable. But I also haven't done any proper aerobic exercise in weeks (unless you count walking back and forth from a campsite a lot, and sex). Stomach protrudes where previously there was no stomach, where indeed there SHOULD be none :(

― Archel (Archel), Tuesday, 14 September 2004 15:27 (twenty-one years ago)

I had a coke today, which made me feel guilty. I know that they are sugary and unhealthy and loaded with calories, but it is the only thing that seems to make a really bad migraine go away.

― Leon Czolgosz (Nicole), Tuesday, 14 September 2004 15:29 (twenty-one years ago)

nicole -- try advil migraine. it really works and it's calorie-free!

― stockholm cindy (Jody Beth Rosen), Tuesday, 14 September 2004 15:34 (twenty-one years ago)

I'm at work, and I got so hungry that I couldn't think so I got a Snickers out of the vending machine to hold me over until lunch time. This happened yesterday too, and I had cereal for breakfast both days. I must remember to eat something more filling.

― Jordan (Jordan), Tuesday, 14 September 2004 15:36 (twenty-one years ago)

I've been keeping Clif bars around to munch on. They're much more filling than they look and the ingredient/nutritional info is surprisingly non-horrifying.

― stockholm cindy (Jody Beth Rosen), Tuesday, 14 September 2004 15:38 (twenty-one years ago)

I can't take advil anymore, it interacts with anti-inflammatories I'm on. :( The only painkiller I can take is Tylenol, which doesn't seem to work that well on me.

― Leon Czolgosz (Nicole), Tuesday, 14 September 2004 15:40 (twenty-one years ago)

How about codeine, Nicole? That can be your next care package if you want :)

Today I went a bit spazzy. I was thwarted in my attempts to have suhi for lunch and went instead for a Japanese beef and rice thing, as well as a pint with a fellow ILXor. Afterwards I felt really bloated and like I'd reversed all my good work - I went on an errand and literally RAN ROUND THE BLOCK (in the middle of London's trendy Soho) in order to get my heart rate up for like 2 minutes. It's not healthy, but MAN I'm in the zone right now.

― Markelby (Mark C), Tuesday, 14 September 2004 15:43 (twenty-one years ago)

No, I can get codeine but I'm not supposed to have it. Sorry for the thread derailment, btw.

― Leon Czolgosz (Nicole), Tuesday, 14 September 2004 15:49 (twenty-one years ago)

Diet drinks are very very bad, right? Because I keep feeling tempted to buy a Diet Cherry Coke out of our fridge at work. Instead, I keep making myself drink water.

Have you ever counted your calories? I think I'd go crazy, but I'm trying it just for today to try to get an idea of what I take in. I have a feeling it won't be the greatest because I've had an oatmeal cookie and two chocolate chip cookies today and it's only almost noon.

― Sarah McLusky (coco), Tuesday, 14 September 2004 15:49 (twenty-one years ago)

i used to count calories in my early/mid-20s, like write everything down that i ate (booze excluded). it worked, eventually a bit too well. it can be hard not to get ocd with things like that.

― lauren (laurenp), Tuesday, 14 September 2004 15:53 (twenty-one years ago)

Yeah, that's what I'm worried about.

― Sarah McLusky (coco), Tuesday, 14 September 2004 15:56 (twenty-one years ago)

honestly, if you're prone to any kind eating issues then it's not a good thing to do.

― lauren (laurenp), Tuesday, 14 September 2004 15:56 (twenty-one years ago)

I felt a bit OCD-esque earlier, but then I KNOW that when sarah's back I'll be eating lots again so the chances of me actually developing anything nasty are infinitely small.

I might try counting my calories today.

1 and a half milky coffees with 1 and a half sppons of sugar (200 cals)
1 small bowl sugary brakfast cereal (200 cals)
1 Japanese beef and rice lunch bowl (500 cals)
1 pint Sam Smiths OB beer (200 cals)
1 chicken kiev with steamed broccoli (400 cals)
1 bottle Old Speckled Hen beer (200 cals)

= 1700 calories.

What do we reckon? Are my sums about right?

― Markelby (Mark C), Tuesday, 14 September 2004 16:06 (twenty-one years ago)

tantrum the cat OTM, although it still all seems too insane for me

Thanks, Cindy - which bit seems insane, the Atkins thing?

― Tantrum The Cat (Tantrum The Cat), Tuesday, 14 September 2004 16:23 (twenty-one years ago)

most of atkins makes sense if you follow the rules, but i think that following the rules to the letter takes a certain kind of mentalism (i have a different kind of mentalism).

― stockholm cindy (Jody Beth Rosen), Tuesday, 14 September 2004 16:27 (twenty-one years ago)

I just did a rough estimate of mine - 423 so far today and it's 12:36.

I can definitely see how this could make one go crazy because it makes you super conscious of everything you put in your mouth.

― Sarah McLusky (coco), Tuesday, 14 September 2004 16:36 (twenty-one years ago)

most of atkins makes sense if you follow the rules, but i think that following the rules to the letter takes a certain kind of mentalism (i have a different kind of mentalism).

Ah. Got it.

I have severely mixed feelings about Atkins. Debating whether to go back on it - it did work the first time, but the jury is still out as to whether Dr. Atkins ws actually killed by his own diet...

― Tantrum The Cat (Tantrum The Cat), Tuesday, 14 September 2004 16:38 (twenty-one years ago)

I can get into the jacket of my leather outfit - it zips up and everything! Hurrah!

However, I still cannot get into the leather jeans. Nothing I can do will seem to move the weight from my ass. It's not fair! I walk everywhere! I have calves of steel! But my ass is a big lump.

― Danger Whore (kate), Wednesday, 15 September 2004 09:08 (twenty-one years ago)

I can now fasten a belt that i got for xmas that didn't meet in the middle when i got it, i did have to pierce an extra hole but it's a start. I'm in a weird transition stage between jeans sizes - the pair that i'm wearing at the moment are too big but the next size down is a bit on the tight side.

― leigh (leigh), Wednesday, 15 September 2004 09:16 (twenty-one years ago)

Yeah, I'm at that weird transition phase, as well. The fat trousers I've been wearing are really baggy and weird, but I don't quite fit into the skinny clothes yet. I threw out all my middle sized clothes, d'oh!

― Danger Whore (kate), Wednesday, 15 September 2004 09:19 (twenty-one years ago)

I now no longer have to paint my chin black, like Boy George.

(in other news, I chipped a motherfucking molar this morning and now have to go to a sodding emergency dentist, grrr. Oh well, maybe it'll keep me off solids)

― Markelby (Mark C), Wednesday, 15 September 2004 09:30 (twenty-one years ago)

Ouch, hope it doesn't hurt too much!

― PinXor (Pinkpanther), Wednesday, 15 September 2004 09:49 (twenty-one years ago)

Ow!

― suzy (suzy), Wednesday, 15 September 2004 09:51 (twenty-one years ago)

We're going to lobby our bosses for corporate gym membership. Our main office in Wales has its own gym which only costs them £35 per annum and we get nada. The health club closest to us is offering corporate membership at £42 a month so hopefully they'll subsidise us.

― leigh (leigh), Wednesday, 15 September 2004 13:21 (twenty-one years ago)

I remember at my old company liaising with Holmes Place to see how much of a reduction we could get for corporate membership. It was quite substantial, but even at reduced levels it was obviously only for management-level salaries.

― Markelby (Mark C), Wednesday, 15 September 2004 13:42 (twenty-one years ago)

We tried holmes place bit it's a little steep, we're going to go for livingwell if the powers that be give the nod.

― leigh (leigh), Wednesday, 15 September 2004 13:45 (twenty-one years ago)

I have the same problem as kate in the behind department. I don't understand. I know that women tend to lose weight from the top down, which is evidenced by my chest - ha ha - and upper half in general. My calf muscles have gotten huge from all the walking I've been doing which means I almost have cankles. But then my thighs and behind are big enough to be in a hip hop video. :-(

― Sarah McLusky (coco), Wednesday, 15 September 2004 13:59 (twenty-one years ago)

:-)

― You've Got to Pick Up Every Stitch (tracerhand), Wednesday, 15 September 2004 14:18 (twenty-one years ago)

i found this yesterday . . . it tells you how many calories you burn for nearly every activity. Talk about OCD...yesterday I was trying to figure out my caloric intake & output...boggles the mind & i didn't get very far.

http://www.caloriesperhour.com/index_burn.html

it's from this home page:
http://www.caloriesperhour.com/

― kelsey (kelstarry), Wednesday, 15 September 2004 14:25 (twenty-one years ago)

ah! i wouldn't take those links too seriously b/c it says "lose 10 pounds in 3 days" along the bottom of the page. 10 pound in 3 days is ridiculous!!

― kelsey (kelstarry), Wednesday, 15 September 2004 14:26 (twenty-one years ago)

i heard once that just fidgeting while watching TV burns like 200 calories

― You've Got to Pick Up Every Stitch (tracerhand), Wednesday, 15 September 2004 14:27 (twenty-one years ago)

i probably burn around 200 calories while biking for 30 minutes, so i think you'd have to watch an awful lot of television to burn that many calories!

― kelsey (kelstarry), Wednesday, 15 September 2004 14:29 (twenty-one years ago)

Lose weight from the top down? GREAT. I am fed up of the size of my knockers (ie huge)

― Starry (hello chickens), Wednesday, 15 September 2004 14:31 (twenty-one years ago)

what exercises are best for the middle areas (i.e. bum, hips, etc.)?
p.s. besides crunches & sit-ups.

― kelsey (kelstarry), Wednesday, 15 September 2004 14:35 (twenty-one years ago)

Arrgh, I don't think my current addiction to the minty Cadburys Dairy Milks is helping the cause of weight loss any. I don't feel like I'm going to want any dinner tonight though - healthwise, would it better not to eat anything (since I have probably consumed my daily calorie allowance solely in chocolate already), or to eat something even though I don't want to?

Kelsey: holding small weights above your head and bending yr upper body sideways (knees relaxed and legs apart) is good for the side abdominals.

― Archel (Archel), Wednesday, 15 September 2004 14:38 (twenty-one years ago)

i don't think it would be better to skip dinner. just eat something very light & healthy. yesterday i ate two cookies & i've already had one today.
why is it that once i decide to "be healthier" that all i want in the whole world is everything that is bad for me?
I don't eat things like onion rings, or lots of mayonnaise...yet, i want it in the worst way at moments like right now.
How do you all work exercise into your life? I'm commuting to work by bike, but I've hit a plateau. I feel like I need to do more. Should I wake up earlier & run? Do something after work? The problem for me with doing stuff after work is that I'm often so hungry that I only want to eat. I try to eat protein around 3 or 4 so my blood sugar doesn't crash on the ride home, but i try not to do it every day. What I want to start doing is enjoying running more & actually start doing it more frequently...anyone in chicago want to run with me? I also really want to start lifting weights. get some real muscles.

― kelsey (kelstarry), Wednesday, 15 September 2004 14:45 (twenty-one years ago)

if you're not hungry, don't eat.

I know that women tend to lose weight from the top down, which is evidenced by my chest

this used to be the case with me, but more recently weight loss has skipped over my, um, top half. it's really annoying. i'm having a problem finding a new winter coat because of it. even ones that are way too big everywhere else are unable to zip/button/otherwise fasten over my bosom. GAH!

― lauren (laurenp), Wednesday, 15 September 2004 14:47 (twenty-one years ago)

Oh great, if I lose weight from the top I will resemble an upside down toffee apple. I feel that I could almost deal with my sticky out belly if I had a matching sticky out bosom, but no.

― Archel (Archel), Wednesday, 15 September 2004 14:50 (twenty-one years ago)

Oh no Lauren!! I have the same problem, I haven't been able to wear a shirt since high skool due to the old KNOCKERS problem. And now it's just getting SILLY!

The gym I was going to join cold called me, so now I am even LESS willing to join, man!

I'll see if there's a grotty staff one to join but it SERIOUSLY has to be uber close to my office as I won't go, I've learnt my lesson from last time in the GIM!

I am thinking of doinng the Slimming World plan wotsit. Has anyone else done this? I think Pink maybe?

― Starry (hello chickens), Wednesday, 15 September 2004 14:54 (twenty-one years ago)

Big tits getting bigger, small tits getting smaller.

I just worked out my weekly calorie burning on that website. Seems I burn more by being at work than anything else, which I suppose makes some kind of sense. Sex apparently doesn't burn a lot of calories at all (Sarah, I'm not talking about over the last five weeks btw :))

Anyway, I got to just over 15,000 calories in 127 hours. I have no idea what I do for the other 40 or so hours (I already counted sleeping - though I guess I didn't count pre- or post-sleep lying around.

― Markelby (Mark C), Wednesday, 15 September 2004 15:00 (twenty-one years ago)

Aw, man, this is GREAT!!! No wonder I'm losing weight:

Guitar - playing, sitting
617 calories in 4 hr
Guitar - playing, standing
925 calories in 4 hr

Rehearsals are power workouts! How much more do I burn if I do scissor kicks and Busted jumps, as well?

― Danger Whore (kate), Wednesday, 15 September 2004 15:04 (twenty-one years ago)

Hahaha I just started to do that and then began to crack up at the activities list and couldn't continue.
'Animals - butchery (not Animal Care)'.
'Airplane Repair'
'Anishinaabe Jingle Dancing'???
'Curves'????

― Archel (Archel), Wednesday, 15 September 2004 15:07 (twenty-one years ago)

Useful to know that if I do 2 hours of moderate cleaning (which I probably will tonight) i will burn off 400 calories ie. about 1 chocolate bar :)

― Archel (Archel), Wednesday, 15 September 2004 15:10 (twenty-one years ago)

I just looked on the St4rbucks website at the nutritional info. I usually get either a skim milk latte or an iced cafe americano, both of which turned out to be pretty low at their calories list. Another low one is Café Misto/Café Au Lait. Ever had one of those? I don't get starbuxxx very often at all, but when I do I don't want to go overboard.

Kate, I noticed that guitar playing stuff. I worked off a lot last night that way. :-D

― Sarah McLusky (coco), Wednesday, 15 September 2004 15:36 (twenty-one years ago)

cafe au lait should just be coffee with an equal amount of milk.

― lauren (laurenp), Wednesday, 15 September 2004 15:44 (twenty-one years ago)

Oh Christ, Sarah, my regular Starbu$$$ order is 300 fucking calories! I guess it's good to know that, and it's definitely good that I resisted getting one this afternoon.

― Markelby (Mark C), Wednesday, 15 September 2004 15:57 (twenty-one years ago)

The new light frappacino thing at starbucks only has 180 cals!

― Towelette Pettatucci (Homosexual II), Wednesday, 15 September 2004 16:02 (twenty-one years ago)

how many calories in a double espresso? that's my usual.

― stockholm cindy, montessori emo superstar (Jody Beth Rosen), Wednesday, 15 September 2004 17:04 (twenty-one years ago)

10 calories (for a 2 oz. double espresso)! beat that!

― stockholm cindy, montessori emo superstar (Jody Beth Rosen), Wednesday, 15 September 2004 17:09 (twenty-one years ago)

(ok, a single has 5 calories)

― stockholm cindy, montessori emo superstar (Jody Beth Rosen), Wednesday, 15 September 2004 17:09 (twenty-one years ago)

"While an espresso shot is the building block of most beverages at our store, in some countries espresso shots are sipped straight for a more intense experience in flavor."

― stockholm cindy, montessori emo superstar (Jody Beth Rosen), Wednesday, 15 September 2004 17:10 (twenty-one years ago)

I lost 5.6 pounds!

― tokyo rosemary (rosemary), Wednesday, 15 September 2004 17:44 (twenty-one years ago)

That's great, rosemary! And the .6 is important. :-D Since when?

― Sarah McLusky (coco), Wednesday, 15 September 2004 18:10 (twenty-one years ago)

Since last Wednesday.

― tokyo rosemary (rosemary), Wednesday, 15 September 2004 18:23 (twenty-one years ago)

Wow!

― Sarah McLusky (coco), Wednesday, 15 September 2004 18:57 (twenty-one years ago)

I'll post my final weight again tomorrow morning. Can everyone please pray for 175 pounds?

(sips vodka and full fat tonic, rubs belly full of delicious pasta and lard-laden sauce)

― Markelby (Mark C), Wednesday, 15 September 2004 19:08 (twenty-one years ago)

I decided to have a cheese and pickle sandwich for dinner in the end. But I have also done two hours of fairly vigorous housework. I feel thinner aleady, but kind of bored.

Good luck Mark! I always find it hard to accept that liquids contain any calories. Possibly this is why I have departed from my ideal weight. That or the chocolate. (though I still prefer to blame the pill - I AM INNOCENT, it is evil CHEMISTRY.)

― Archel (Archel), Wednesday, 15 September 2004 19:14 (twenty-one years ago)

"full fat tonic"?Tonic doesn't have any fat! (calories, yes, but surely not fat)

Anyway, good luck Mark!

― tokyo rosemary (rosemary), Wednesday, 15 September 2004 19:15 (twenty-one years ago)

Nice going by the way, zobot!

― Markelby (Mark C), Wednesday, 15 September 2004 19:16 (twenty-one years ago)

my problem is knowing when I'm hungry or not, sometimes I just can't work it out.

― cºzen (Cozen), Wednesday, 15 September 2004 19:17 (twenty-one years ago)

This lady at my last work lost something like 60 pounds on Weight Watchers. But she was kind of crazy self-motivated, like no one else I've ever met.

My BMI is like 28.1 (I'm like 5'8" and I weigh about 185 I think, though it's been a while since I weighed myself). :( It's weird because I feel like I'm kinda pudgy and I've definately put on weight since college, but I don't really feel like I'm fat or obese or anything. But I would like to try and get rid of some of my gut. Not all of it, because then I would be lonely. But some.

So how do you develop will-power? Usually when I try and eat healthier, I do pretty good for a few days and then I start putting Doritos and candy bars and stuff back in my routine as soon as I start to get hungry or if I'm in a bad mood and then I'm back where I started. It's not just food, I don't really have will-power about much of anything that I want to do (it's a good thing I was never a serious smoker).

― n/a (Nick A.), Wednesday, 15 September 2004 19:28 (twenty-one years ago)

People always bring candy and stuff into my work and even if I'm not hungry I can't resist eating a piece every time I go back to get water. And I feel like I would be unhappy if I couldn't eat pizza or whatever when I wanted to, like my life would actually be noticeably worse.

― n/a (Nick A.), Wednesday, 15 September 2004 20:08 (twenty-one years ago)

as a starting point, figure out an unhealthy thing (just one) that you eat frequently and limit yourself to once a week.

― lauren (laurenp), Wednesday, 15 September 2004 20:17 (twenty-one years ago)

Hmm. I could probably actually resist candy if I put my mind to it. I'm worse about craving salty greasy things.

― n/a (Nick A.), Wednesday, 15 September 2004 20:21 (twenty-one years ago)

pieces of candy and the like consumed mindlessly at the office should be avoided at all costs. a friend of mine realized that the m&m's she was taking out of her intern's bowl added up to about pound bag every week.

― lauren (laurenp), Wednesday, 15 September 2004 20:26 (twenty-one years ago)

But work is boring!

― n/a (Nick A.), Wednesday, 15 September 2004 20:27 (twenty-one years ago)

ILX isn't fattening, Nick...

― Markelby (Mark C), Wednesday, 15 September 2004 20:28 (twenty-one years ago)

i've cut out trans fats, and i've cut back on sugar (which i've never gone overboard with anyway). i'm not really "dieting" though; i'm bad at that.

― stockholm cindy, montessori emo superstar (Jody Beth Rosen), Wednesday, 15 September 2004 20:36 (twenty-one years ago)

cutting way back on sugar makes a big difference, i've found.

― lauren (laurenp), Wednesday, 15 September 2004 20:37 (twenty-one years ago)

also i haven't had a drink in eight days.

― my name is stockholm cindy, and i am a montessori emo superstar (Jody Beth Rosen, Wednesday, 15 September 2004 20:38 (twenty-one years ago)

Okay Jody, that makes me feel like I need to join AA.

"So Anna, share with the group, when did you feel you reached the bottom?"
"Um .. well ... it was when a girl on an internet message board said she hadn't had a drink for eight days..."

Maybe I'm okay.

― Anna (Anna), Wednesday, 15 September 2004 23:52 (twenty-one years ago)

i felt that way, too. it's okay. really. it's all going to be fine.

― lauren (laurenp), Wednesday, 15 September 2004 23:56 (twenty-one years ago)

I love the minty dairy milk bars but i'm successfully managing to limit myself to one a week along with a packet of cheese and onion mccoys when i get the sunday papers.

― leigh (leigh), Thursday, 16 September 2004 08:11 (twenty-one years ago)

I have bought GIM GEAR to work with me today. And at lunchtime I am going to give the GIM people TWO HUNDRED POUNDS.

Seriously!!

― Starry (hello chickens), Thursday, 16 September 2004 08:14 (twenty-one years ago)

I am going to play badminton tomorrow I think. I turned down a croissant this morning using only my MIGHTY WILL. Then my coworker ate it with obvious relish in front of me the bastard.

― Archel (Archel), Thursday, 16 September 2004 08:16 (twenty-one years ago)

Aw man although the running machines have no TELLIES in front of them! Still I'm not paying 300 more quid for the priviliege of MTV and Sky News in the OTHER gim.

I think I need an iriver thing or something at least that doesn't SKIP when you are RUNNING!

― Starry (hello chickens), Thursday, 16 September 2004 08:17 (twenty-one years ago)

Or you know, maybe a RADIO.

― Starry (hello chickens), Thursday, 16 September 2004 08:22 (twenty-one years ago)

I am thinking of doinng the Slimming World plan wotsit. Has anyone else done this? I think Pink maybe?
Yeah I have done/am doing this at the moment. For several reasons I'm kind of not really doing it at the moment so obv it's not working. Basically, it is a healthy eating plan. If you want some more info on it, let me know. I am it's biggest advocate as you can eat loads & are never hungry!! It definitely works too, I lost a stone & a half in no time at all.

― PinXor (Pinkpanther), Thursday, 16 September 2004 08:23 (twenty-one years ago)

way to go, starry! feel the burn!!

― You've Got to Pick Up Every Stitch (tracerhand), Thursday, 16 September 2004 10:28 (twenty-one years ago)

I know the theory behind the Slimming World wotsit as my stepmother lost a fair amount of weight on it, you have yr red/green wotsit days and you're allowed x amount of "sins" or whatever - clearly mine wd all be BOOZE - but I don't have any of the books relating to it or anything as clearly they belond to the foax. It DOES seem healthy yes, and not overtly "controlling", which makes me think it's probably the best template to work from.

Har har cheers Tracer. At least the GIM gives me excuses to buy MORE LEGWARMERS!!!

― Starry (hello chickens), Thursday, 16 September 2004 10:33 (twenty-one years ago)

Well i guess you know the premise of it!

― PinXor (Pinkpanther), Thursday, 16 September 2004 10:56 (twenty-one years ago)

ONE POUND TO GO BEFORE 5.30AM TOMORROW. MAYBE A BIG POO WILL DO IT

― Markelby (Mark C), Thursday, 16 September 2004 11:54 (twenty-one years ago)

Also, how come no-one wants to play badminton in London?

― Markelby (Mark C), Thursday, 16 September 2004 11:54 (twenty-one years ago)

If I was in London, I'd def be up for that!

― PinXor (Pinkpanther), Thursday, 16 September 2004 11:55 (twenty-one years ago)

i have my crewcut, tomorrow i'm starting my food diary, term three has finished so i have time to get a good headstart at the gym and i'm gonna be cooking a lot of vegie soup to freeze to eat once i'm back teaching.

i haven't got the ipod mini with six hours of asskicking kung fu music, that's gonna have to wait until i have more money to spend of frivolous exercise aids.

― Michael Stuchbery (Mikey Bidness), Thursday, 16 September 2004 11:58 (twenty-one years ago)

Aw that's so romantic. 'Darling I had a big poo, now I am thin for you!'

― Archel (Archel), Thursday, 16 September 2004 11:59 (twenty-one years ago)

Mark I have said I want to play badminton BUT YOU NEVER LISTEN TO ME DO YOU YOU B#STARD!!

That and where the h3ll is one gonna play badminton anyway...

― Starry (hello chickens), Thursday, 16 September 2004 12:25 (twenty-one years ago)

Yeah, I think that's the problem Sarah. Some municipal badminton courts in central london? All we have to do is find them...

(I bet Rob Bolton would play badminton)

― Markelby (Mark C), Thursday, 16 September 2004 12:37 (twenty-one years ago)

Rob Bolton just loves the shuttlecock! hahaha!

― PinXor (Pinkpanther), Thursday, 16 September 2004 13:02 (twenty-one years ago)

If only we had been talking about Ken, that post would have been perfect!!

― PinXor (Pinkpanther), Thursday, 16 September 2004 13:18 (twenty-one years ago)

I would play badminton if I were in London. I haven't played in years, but I used to be pretty decent as a kid.

― n/a (Nick A.), Thursday, 16 September 2004 13:37 (twenty-one years ago)

DUDES - 12 STONE 7 POUNDS AS OF 4.45AM THIS MORNING. I DID IT.

(and I'm now cuddlin' up to my honey and she's telling me how trim I am! Whoot!)

― Markelby (Mark C), Friday, 17 September 2004 13:43 (twenty-one years ago)

Hurrah, hurrah, wooo for Mark C!

I'm very proud of myself, I weighed myself this morning, blinked and rubbed my eyes, because of the hangover, but the scale still said TWELVE STONE EVEN!!!!

I am a happy girl. Maybe I will be wearing my leather jeans by gigtime after all...

― Danger Whore (kate), Friday, 17 September 2004 13:48 (twenty-one years ago)

Congrats to both of you!

― leigh (leigh), Friday, 17 September 2004 13:50 (twenty-one years ago)

Well done you two skinny minis!! Oh & Mark, wtf are you doing on ILX when SGS is there??!!!

― PinXor (Pinkpanther), Friday, 17 September 2004 13:56 (twenty-one years ago)

I am wearing my brown cords today. I am so happy - I haven't fit in them since 2003, and now they're good and slouchy like proper indie cords!

― Danger Whore (kate), Friday, 17 September 2004 13:58 (twenty-one years ago)

Please someone punch me to get me back on track with my diet. :-(

― PinXor (Pinkpanther), Friday, 17 September 2004 13:59 (twenty-one years ago)

::slaps hand::

Stay away from the goodies! You can do it!

― Danger Whore (kate), Friday, 17 September 2004 14:00 (twenty-one years ago)

mmm, now where is that cho....aarrrrrrrgggggghhhhhhhh!

― PinXor (Pinkpanther), Friday, 17 September 2004 14:01 (twenty-one years ago)

YOU CAN BE STRONG, PINX0R!!!! YOU CAN BE STRONG!!!

― Danger Whore (kate), Friday, 17 September 2004 14:02 (twenty-one years ago)

I can't at the moment though. Even after having the lurgy after last week's flood does not seem to have made any difference!! I haven't drunk in about 2 weeks, but I have eaten too much cheese & tasty things.

― PinXor (Pinkpanther), Friday, 17 September 2004 14:03 (twenty-one years ago)

Mmmm, cheese.

NO! I have willpower! I haven't eaten cheese since Joe and I split. I think that might be part of the secret to my weightloss... no more giant blocks of Stilton the size of my head.

― Danger Whore (kate), Friday, 17 September 2004 14:04 (twenty-one years ago)

It's brie for me actually, we've got a big chunk of stilton in the ridge which has gone untouched!!

― PinXor (Pinkpanther), Friday, 17 September 2004 14:05 (twenty-one years ago)

Hmm. I'm wearing brown cords today too.
I haven't had any sweets since the other day, other than soda and coffee w/ sugar. But no candy or cookies or anything. I guess that's something. I eat a lot of cheese though.

― n/a (Nick A.), Friday, 17 September 2004 14:09 (twenty-one years ago)

I think it's difficult for veggies to not eat loads of cheese. K, how do you manage it?

― PinXor (Pinkpanther), Friday, 17 September 2004 14:10 (twenty-one years ago)

I guess I need to get a scale. I have no idea what I weigh.

― n/a (Nick A.), Friday, 17 September 2004 14:10 (twenty-one years ago)

I just don't buy any cheese! I eat boiled eggs and steamed vegetables. When I'm at work, I allow myself to splurge a little on premade dinners that sometimes include cheese, but a very limited amount.

It's just a question of not allowing it in the house.

― Danger Whore (kate), Friday, 17 September 2004 14:12 (twenty-one years ago)

*shudders* that seems so extreme!!

― PinXor (Pinkpanther), Friday, 17 September 2004 14:12 (twenty-one years ago)

I kind of worry about not getting enough calcium if I don't eat cheese, since I don't drink milk or eat anything creamy/milky. But I also I just love cheese.

― n/a (Nick A.), Friday, 17 September 2004 14:13 (twenty-one years ago)

I drink loads of milk, and I take a calcium supplement. (Though it's all skim milk now, as well.)

― Danger Whore (kate), Friday, 17 September 2004 14:14 (twenty-one years ago)

Skim milk, but full fat beer. Oh my.

― Danger Whore (kate), Friday, 17 September 2004 14:14 (twenty-one years ago)

I think you can get calcium in broccoli, Nick. (BWAH HA HA!)

― Sarah McLusky (coco), Friday, 17 September 2004 14:17 (twenty-one years ago)

You can get calcium from teabagging. CURSE YOU, CATTY FOR PUTTING THAT IMAGE IN MY MIND!!!

― Danger Whore (kate), Friday, 17 September 2004 14:18 (twenty-one years ago)

WTF? JJJJJJJJAAAAAAAAAMMMMMMMMMMMMEEEEEEEEESSSSSSSSSS!

― PinXor (Pinkpanther), Friday, 17 September 2004 14:19 (twenty-one years ago)

I don't drink milk or eat anything creamy/milky.
-- n/a (nu...), September 17th, 2004 10:13 AM. (later)

― n/a (Nick A.), Friday, 17 September 2004 14:34 (twenty-one years ago)

hahahaha!

― PinXor (Pinkpanther), Friday, 17 September 2004 14:34 (twenty-one years ago)

Oh no.

― Sarah McLusky (coco), Friday, 17 September 2004 14:54 (twenty-one years ago)

I'm now wearing my thin(er) jeans and am up to the second notch on my tight belt, life is good.

― leigh (leigh), Friday, 24 September 2004 09:56 (twenty-one years ago)

I think I've put on 3 or 4 pounds in the week since Sarah's been back. I'm not sure how that makes me feel (but DAMN that curry was good last night).

However, I am today wearing my authentic 70s flares which I haven't even been able to do up on previous occasions, and though they're a bit tight (anyone keen to know my religion can, um, find out), they look pretty swell.

― Markelby (Mark C), Friday, 24 September 2004 12:06 (twenty-one years ago)

Yay, I've lost 8.6 pounds so far!

― tokyo rosemary (rosemary), Wednesday, 29 September 2004 15:52 (twenty-one years ago)

Nice one dude! I'm hopefully stable right now - still doing a lot of walking, though it's soon going to be too cold to cycle and walk (well, too cold for a big poof like me).

― Markelby (Mark C), Wednesday, 29 September 2004 16:46 (twenty-one years ago)

Today, I'm sporting my new jean skirt, which I had to buy because all my other skirts were falling off of me! :-D It's two sizes smaller than most of the clothes in my closet (size 10 as opposed to 14). I also have new jeans at home, which I need to start breaking in soon.

― Sarah McLusky (coco), Wednesday, 29 September 2004 18:19 (twenty-one years ago)

AARGH! Last night I had pizza and ice-cream and because I've got a friend staying with me for a few days and popping out this weekend I CAN'T GO TO THE GYM AND WORK IT OFF! No! All my hard work.....!

― edward o (edwardo), Wednesday, 29 September 2004 21:15 (twenty-one years ago)

goodness knows.

― cºzen (Cozen), Thursday, 30 September 2004 07:13 (twenty-one years ago)

I'm weighing in tonight, I do not expect to do well! :-(

― PinXorchiXoR (Pinkpanther), Thursday, 30 September 2004 07:28 (twenty-one years ago)

I got weighed on tuesday and discovered i'd gained a pound so i'm being a little more strict this week. I guess last week's cans of red stripe and chinese take away were to blame.

― leigh (leigh), Thursday, 30 September 2004 08:33 (twenty-one years ago)

Haha yesterday I did nothing but lie in bed apart from when I went into Peckham... and ate eggchipsbeans and then a whole layer of Milk tray, excellent. I rock.

― Starry (hello chickens), Thursday, 30 September 2004 08:52 (twenty-one years ago)

Congrats Starry, your diet seems to be exceedingly well!

― PinXorchiXoR (Pinkpanther), Thursday, 30 September 2004 08:53 (twenty-one years ago)

Morning all. I splashed out on my 3rd takeaway since Sarah got back last night, but that was after walking 6 miles during the day, so less guilt than normal (though the double chin is creeping back, and when your face is as round as mine, that's not a plus). I had to go to the dentist this morning, and resisted the temptation to ask him to remove several molars for that fashionable sunken look.

― Markelby (Mark C), Thursday, 30 September 2004 10:05 (twenty-one years ago)

I ate a big dinner (seconds! and cookies!) but I console (delude??) myself with the thought that these were pretty much healthy foods. Plus I have all of this week.

But last night I was reading up on the calories of Tostitos Hint of Lime tortilla chips that I have been snacking on all week at work and WHOA. I am not quite sure how I managed to lose weight. No extra snacking this week then!

― tokyo rosemary (rosemary), Thursday, 30 September 2004 13:34 (twenty-one years ago)

Ooh becareful Rosemary, sometimes it catches up the next week!! Still rock on girl with the snacking & weightloss. A match made in heaven i think!

― PinXorchiXoR (Pinkpanther), Thursday, 30 September 2004 13:38 (twenty-one years ago)

I know! That's why I'm worried! Plus next week is going to be either premenstrual or menstrual bloat too.

― tokyo rosemary (rosemary), Thursday, 30 September 2004 13:47 (twenty-one years ago)

Ah, you can discount any weight gain next week then due to that simple! ;-)

― PinXorchiXoR (Pinkpanther), Thursday, 30 September 2004 14:01 (twenty-one years ago)

Not doing too good :(

― Archel (Archel), Thursday, 30 September 2004 15:14 (twenty-one years ago)

One of the vendors bought my office pizza today. He's running all around saying, "FREE PIZZA!!! FREE PIZZA IN THE BACK!!!!" I'm going back there to see if they got salads too. Of course, last time they didn't even get any vegetarian pizzas.

― Sarah McLusky (coco), Thursday, 30 September 2004 16:14 (twenty-one years ago)

Pizza update - they got a vegetarian pizza JUST FOR ME, which was of course really nice, but also meant I felt bad about not eating pizza. But I only ate a little along with some salad (by the way, have you ever seen a salad with pickles in it?!).

― Sarah McLusky (coco), Thursday, 30 September 2004 16:54 (twenty-one years ago)

People put all sorts of odd things in salad.

I am fatter than ever before. It is probably because I got glandular fever and stopped going to the gym but I don't want to go back since I still seem to need about 12 hours sleep a day.

But my friend told me yesterday when I was whining about this that when I start going to the gym again it should work because "it worked last time" which I had not noticed at all since I still weighed the same (muscle not fat?) So I am at least enthusiastic about going back one day rather than regarding it as all pain and no gain (my previous attitude).

― isadora (isadora), Friday, 1 October 2004 00:49 (twenty-one years ago)

It can only ever do you good, so don't fret, just get yourself better & back to the gym.

Sarah - mmm veggie pizza, you should have grabbed it & ran, after all i'm sure you could have taken it home for nick!!

― PinXorchiXoR (Pinkpanther), Friday, 1 October 2004 07:21 (twenty-one years ago)

I've now cut out corn-chips. It's my main vice. I'm going to research low-fat ones, so I can still have my salsa. Barring that, I'm just going to eat salsa with a spoon.

― Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Friday, 1 October 2004 07:22 (twenty-one years ago)

There is really no point having a veggie-stuffed low fat chilli and brown rice if you accompany it with corn chips, sour cream and Smarties, is there? I fear I am NEVER going to get the hang of losing weight :(

― Archel (Archel), Friday, 1 October 2004 07:50 (twenty-one years ago)

Archel, do you need to lose weight? Last time I saw you, you were gorgeously slimtastic!!

― PinXorchiXoR (Pinkpanther), Friday, 1 October 2004 07:53 (twenty-one years ago)

Going to the gym: depending on what you're doing, your weight may even go UP, even if you were overweight to begin with. When you start working out, the scale is your enemy and may psych you out completely. It's more important to get a handle on whether you're looking and feeling better as a result of working out (and you will be, inevitably). If you start seeing more muscle tone, you're on the right track, and only then should you start worrying about your weight as such again.

― Colin Meeder (Mert), Friday, 1 October 2004 08:05 (twenty-one years ago)

I probably don't need to lose very much... it's just that I've gone a kind of weird shape because I have a distinct pot belly but a tiny bosom and I hate it. I can't afford to buy a whole new wardrobe one size bigger either...

― Archel (Archel), Friday, 1 October 2004 08:07 (twenty-one years ago)

Colin totally otm there! judge it by how you feel & your clothes.
Archel - i know about that wardrobe thingy!! my sympathies!

― PinXorchiXoR (Pinkpanther), Friday, 1 October 2004 08:27 (twenty-one years ago)

Fear me!!!

I WENT TO THE GIM THIS LUNCHTIME.

And it was ACE!

I have my proper "learning things" tomorrow. It lasts for an hour! Ugh!

― Starry (hello chickens), Monday, 4 October 2004 15:33 (twenty-one years ago)

So I am assuming that you are an ultra skinny minny now? I mean it only takes one trip right?

― PinXorchiXoR (Pinkpanther), Tuesday, 5 October 2004 06:53 (twenty-one years ago)

~~Yes~~No.

Although I might have to meet up with people to swap knitting books after work now so might have to postpone the real actual induction (but I will go at lunch instead)...

― Starry (hello chickens), Tuesday, 5 October 2004 07:26 (twenty-one years ago)

Damnit, if you gotta go more than once then i am not, repeat not, joining!! You are really dedicated if you are going to go at lunch! here have a mars bar!!

― PinXorchiXoR (Pinkpanther), Tuesday, 5 October 2004 07:36 (twenty-one years ago)

I am going to the pub at lunchtime. It's a good three minute walk each way, plus I have to walk up to the 4th floor of my building on the way back! That's practically like going to the gym!

(current weight: too scared to get on the scales; double chin visible in shop mirros)

― Markelby (Mark C), Tuesday, 5 October 2004 10:17 (twenty-one years ago)

Haha I forgot my socks. I am not going to the gym at all! I am going to sit on my big bottom instead. Marvellous.

To be honest my office is SO COLD I'd prefer the gym, waa.

― Starry (hello chickens), Tuesday, 5 October 2004 10:22 (twenty-one years ago)

I am back on my diet, so hopefully there should be a loss this week which will spur me on further!

― PinXorchiXoR (Pinkpanther), Tuesday, 5 October 2004 10:24 (twenty-one years ago)

The Lady's office are running (oh the horror) a fill-in-as-you-go Excel spreadsheet with everyone's actual honest daily food intake on it, along with painstakingly-calculated WeightWatchers points for each foodstuff. She added me for a "laugh" and apparently out of the 26 points I'm meant to accrue per day, yesterday I managed an impressive 46.5. Oh dear. Perhaps I should start swimming after work...

― CharlieNo4 (Charlie), Tuesday, 5 October 2004 10:27 (twenty-one years ago)

But isn't that 26 points if you are trying to lose weight?

― PinXorchiXoR (Pinkpanther), Tuesday, 5 October 2004 10:59 (twenty-one years ago)

Got weighed last night, have lost another 3 1/2 pounds which is fairly good considering i had fish & chips and a chinese takeaway last week. I'm substituting soup from the canteen and non diet fizzy pop with water and miso soup this week so hopefully the pounds will drop off with more ease from now on.

― leigh (leigh), Thursday, 14 October 2004 06:39 (twenty-one years ago)

Leigh, how are you doing it? (congrats btw!)

― PinXorchiXoR (Pinkpanther), Thursday, 14 October 2004 06:53 (twenty-one years ago)

I'm not really dieting as such, just swapping the processed crap i used to eat with lots of fruit and veg and lean protein like chicken and fish. I still have a bar of chocolate and a packet of crisps once a week when i pick up the sunday papers don't feel tempted at other times. I've still got loads to lose and was concious that a diet wouldn't work and that i'd need to change my habits permanently if i was to sustain it. Still need to exercise more - i fancy getting a pedometer and keep meaning to go swimming.

― leigh (leigh), Thursday, 14 October 2004 07:06 (twenty-one years ago)

well by the sounds of it, you are doing great!

― PinXorchiXoR (Pinkpanther), Thursday, 14 October 2004 07:20 (twenty-one years ago)

I want to buy a skipping rope, but I am worried my low ceilings will make it impractical. I bought Sarah one of those big gym balls, though I don't think she's used it yet (also she now has abs like an olympic gymnast and buns of titanium).

Oh, and this morning's weigh-in claimed I am *still* 12 and a half stone dead :)))

― Markelby (Mark C), Thursday, 14 October 2004 10:34 (twenty-one years ago)

At least you havent gone up. Things could be worse. I like the sound of Leigh's plan.

― isadora (isadora), Thursday, 14 October 2004 19:22 (twenty-one years ago)

Jumping in late to this thread, but I've been dieting pretty much on program for the last year and a half. I've went from 240 lbs to 175 lbs today. My goal when I started this whole thing was 165, but I've been 10 pounds away for at least the last 6 months. At least I'm maintaining.

― Jeff-PTTL (Jeff), Thursday, 14 October 2004 19:30 (twenty-one years ago)

That's great, Jeff! How did you come up with 165?

― Sarah McLusky (coco), Thursday, 14 October 2004 19:32 (twenty-one years ago)

What kind of diet have you been using, Jeff?

― Leon Czolgosz (Nicole), Thursday, 14 October 2004 19:34 (twenty-one years ago)

i started the south beach about 5 weeks ago. it was very easy to stick with and easy to do. i'm not interested in weighing portions or counting calories so this made it a good plan for me.

i've lost weight around my middle - i dont know how much lb-wise because i never weight myself - but im moving from a 34 waist to a comfortable 32 (dare one hope for a 30?)

for me the best part is that it really didnt take much effort to plan meals and stick with them and i was never hungry once.

― Anthony (Plato Guy), Thursday, 14 October 2004 19:40 (twenty-one years ago)

I've been on Weight Watchers, it has worked best for me, because I can pretty much eat what I want, just keeping track of how much everyday. Writing down everything I put in my pie hole has been key. I picked 165, just because it was near the middle range of a healthy rate for someone my height.

― Jeff-PTTL (Jeff), Thursday, 14 October 2004 19:42 (twenty-one years ago)

Whee, 11.6 pounds in six weeks! And that's with eating five buttered slices of Italian bread, a big chunk of almond pudding cake, lots of Hershey's miatures and a slice of coconut custard pie with whipped cream ove the weekend.

― tokyo rosemary (rosemary), Wednesday, 20 October 2004 15:39 (twenty-one years ago)

I've been holding pretty steady at 145. Yay!

― Sarah McLusky (coco), Wednesday, 20 October 2004 16:07 (twenty-one years ago)

I'm holding pretty steady at about 176 (12 stone 8 for our British chums), though the enormour curry I had last night probably didn't help. When it gets too cold to walk to work from waterloo station I expect the lard will start to lay down again.

Incidentally, what should one expect regarding the fabled "winter fat" that our bodies are supposed to store? How many pounds will that add? Does it fall off automatically come spring, or does it just make our lives more difficult? I want answers!

― Markelby (Mark C), Thursday, 21 October 2004 09:11 (twenty-one years ago)

More difficult!!
I have abandoned my weekly class diet. I shall no doubt try to do it on my own again at some point, but £25 a month to be told 'you've maintained/gained a pound' really isn't worth it when I have no intention of sticking to the diet!

― PinXorchiXoR (Pinkpanther), Thursday, 21 October 2004 09:15 (twenty-one years ago)

I haven't lost a whole lot since I started going to the gym and attempting to eat better, but my clothes all fit better and I can get into my skinny jeans and wear them out comfortably now. I've been skipping meals too often lately, rather than eating healthily in some kind of routine. Like, I'll get up and have cereal normally, then go to the gym in the afternoon, come home and make a bacon sandwich at 4ish and then go out drinking all evening. I'm sure the bacon isn't helping but I have a hunch that skipping meals anyway slows down metabolism? Anyone know for sure?

I'm putting off going to the gym right now since I have no clean workout clothing, and will probably go tomorrow instead, since I want to go out for barbecue tomorrow night and I'll feel better about the decadence if I've been to the gym that day.

My logic in these circumstances may be faulty.

― sgs (sgs), Thursday, 21 October 2004 09:36 (twenty-one years ago)

Considering how much exercise speeds up your metabolism, the logic sounds pretty good to me. Also, you look FUCKING HOTT right now, sgs.

― Markelby (Mark C), Thursday, 21 October 2004 09:38 (twenty-one years ago)

Thanks Mark :) I have some way to go yet. And will not be helped along the way by barbecue, but fuckit.

― sgs (sgs), Thursday, 21 October 2004 09:46 (twenty-one years ago)

Yay! Shall I book a table at Bodean's? Can we make sure it's facing the telly? 7.30 okay?

― Markelby (Mark C), Thursday, 21 October 2004 09:52 (twenty-one years ago)

I've only lost half a pound this week but it looks very likely that my employer is going to help us out with gym membership *crosses fingers*.

― leigh (leigh), Thursday, 21 October 2004 09:53 (twenty-one years ago)

I feel like I'm intruding on this thread!!

― PinXorchiXoR (Pinkpanther), Thursday, 21 October 2004 10:03 (twenty-one years ago)

Well, I haven't been doing much actual dieting, Pink--if I'm not intruding here, I don't think you are :)

― sgs (sgs), Thursday, 21 October 2004 10:07 (twenty-one years ago)

I meant you & Mark telling each other how lovely you looked! ;-)

― PinXorchiXoR (Pinkpanther), Thursday, 21 October 2004 10:11 (twenty-one years ago)

oh whoops :/
Well, back to diet talk--does anyone know how to figure out ideal weight/body mass index or whatever? I've taken to weighing myself too often for amusement's sake and it's no real help and I think gives a false picture when I really only count weekly, same-time results. I'm not really sure what my weight *should* be, I guess.

― sgs (sgs), Thursday, 21 October 2004 10:18 (twenty-one years ago)

Only joking! ;-) Mark's right, you look lovely!

I wouldn't be concerned too much with ideal weights. if you feel ok then be guided by that instead. Those weight charts don't really take a lot of factors into consideration.

― PinXorchiXoR (Pinkpanther), Thursday, 21 October 2004 10:27 (twenty-one years ago)

What Pink says is on the mark, but if you are curious, just google BMI.

― Sarah McLusky (coco), Thursday, 21 October 2004 13:31 (twenty-one years ago)

I have always found BMI to be too generous.

― tokyo rosemary (rosemary), Thursday, 21 October 2004 13:39 (twenty-one years ago)

I went back on Atkins. Haven't weighed myself yet - I just go by pants size. Last year I wore 36-inch jeans (and they were getting snug - I was looking at a size 38 - eep). I had slimmed into a size 33 but they were starting to tighten up on me as of last month. Now they're (almost) exactly right. The next step is to finish the god-blessified renovations at my place so I can set up my home gym again. My musle tone is shamefully bad right now...

― Tantrum The Cat (Tantrum The Cat), Thursday, 21 October 2004 14:08 (twenty-one years ago)

I have enormous calf muscles since most of my 'diet' has comprised of walking walking walking. Below my knees I have two little tree trunks.

― Sarah McLusky (coco), Thursday, 21 October 2004 14:44 (twenty-one years ago)

I wish I knew how you managed that - three months of walking walking walking have done bugger all for my calves. My thighs, on the other hand, are BUFF AS FUCK but that's mainly down to the natural shape of my legs + LOTS OF CYCLING.

― Markelby (Mark C), Thursday, 21 October 2004 15:25 (twenty-one years ago)

Man, see, I have the opposite problem. Walking makes my calves SUPER-BUFF but my thighs... gah.

― Kissing Time At The Pleasure Unit (kate), Thursday, 21 October 2004 15:26 (twenty-one years ago)

my friend is trying to talk me into doing a two-hour pole-dancing class with her this weekend. i can believe that it's amazing for upper body strength, but it's silly money. what to do!

― lauren (laurenp), Thursday, 21 October 2004 15:37 (twenty-one years ago)

I think it sounds like a lot of fun, lauren.

I just checked my little weight loss file on the computer and I've lost 16 pounds since July 12th. :-D

― Sarah McLusky (coco), Thursday, 21 October 2004 16:55 (twenty-one years ago)

ahh! everytime i read this i feel horrible for how unmotivated i am....

― kelsey (kelstarry), Thursday, 21 October 2004 16:57 (twenty-one years ago)

Kelsey, no!! We need to do something at least semi-exercise-related together. What sounds fun to you? Have you ever taken a yoga class? I haven't and I think it sounds interesting. Maybe we could pick a place and just go to one session to check it out??

― Sarah McLusky (coco), Thursday, 21 October 2004 16:59 (twenty-one years ago)

i love yoga . . . i was doing it weekly before my internship & then stopped because i was working so many hours & i felt as though i ought to prioritize the internship. i really want to get back into it . . . i also really want to enjoy running and i want to sculpt my body & give myself some muscles. but yes! we should do yoga! or anything! starting next wednesday i'm taking up the harmonica, so those days are the only days when i have something scheduled....

― kelsey (kelstarry), Thursday, 21 October 2004 17:54 (twenty-one years ago)

I've tried yoga a lot, but I've just got no patience for it. I need something more kinetic in my exercise. I've looking into joining Cheetah up here in aville, but it's damned expensive, and I don't want to have to dress up and wear makeup to go to the gym. I'll just have to ride my bike in the freezing cold to get exercise this winter.

― Jeff-PTTL (Jeff), Thursday, 21 October 2004 17:56 (twenty-one years ago)

x-post K, I'm not up for running. I'll look into yoga. Is there a place you already like to go? The one you used to go to?

Jeff, My winter plan is more of the same (walking walking walking), meaning I might freeze to death.

― Sarah McLusky (coco), Thursday, 21 October 2004 17:58 (twenty-one years ago)

thus far i'll be riding my bike this winter as well. it'll be my first time riding in the snow . . .
sarah: the place i used to go i'm not sure if it's still there. how are you with all the chanting & stuff?
jeff, my boyfriend goes to the gym by the whole foods on ashland in lakeview. from what he says, he doesn't pay that much . . . although he may have gotten some kind of promo deal or something.

― kelsey (kelstarry), Thursday, 21 October 2004 18:08 (twenty-one years ago)

I wouldn't mind belonging to the gym except they are so fucking EXPENSIVE. Some of that stuff is fun, like the elliptical machine. I actually work in the same building as a CRUNCH GYM, but they look even more expensive than other gyms.

― n/a (Nick A.), Thursday, 21 October 2004 18:11 (twenty-one years ago)

by the way lauren, i think pole-dancing is the exercise that could keep giving back. think of all the amateur nights you can sign up for!

― kelsey (kelstarry), Thursday, 21 October 2004 18:12 (twenty-one years ago)

n-yes. i think i may join the gym at my work. it's $350 for the year & is two blocks away from my job. i could go swimming during my lunch hour or something . . .

― kelsey (kelstarry), Thursday, 21 October 2004 18:13 (twenty-one years ago)

Chanting? I obviously know nothing about yoga. I thought you just get in a sitting position and hold it for a while.

― Sarah McLusky (coco), Thursday, 21 October 2004 18:27 (twenty-one years ago)

i've been eating a lot of fiber lately. and i think my clothes are fitting better. draw your own conclusions...

― paranoia is the hipster's disease (Jody Beth Rosen), Thursday, 21 October 2004 18:36 (twenty-one years ago)

Drink a lot of water.

― Nowell, Thursday, 21 October 2004 18:39 (twenty-one years ago)

"but I have a hunch that skipping meals anyway slows down metabolism? Anyone know for sure?"

I fear that missing meals makes your metabolism speed up. Because your body goes, "oh no! we are in a poor quality habitat where there is not a lot of food around, we need to make sure that when there is food available we eat lots and super-efficiently transfer it into fat to live off in the hard times to come".

― isadora (isadora), Thursday, 21 October 2004 18:46 (twenty-one years ago)

Doesn't metabolism refer to the burning of fat for energy, so a starved body burns less (lower metabolism) because it knows it may not be replenished soon?

― nickn (nickn), Thursday, 21 October 2004 19:02 (twenty-one years ago)

nickn = yes

― kelsey (kelstarry), Thursday, 21 October 2004 19:21 (twenty-one years ago)

Thanks, nickn, that's what I was thinking.

Skipping meals = bad.

In a semi-related note, I started watching the Arrested Development Series 1 dvd last night and liked this little bit:

Dad: Now, what have I always told you is the most important thing?
Son: Breakfast?
Dad: Um, no. I was thinking of family.
Son: Oh, I thought you meant the most important thing with foods and stuff.

― Sarah McLusky (coco), Thursday, 21 October 2004 19:33 (twenty-one years ago)

heh.

thanks for confirming my metabolism hunch, y'all.

my boyfriend goes to the gym by the whole foods on ashland in lakeview.

This was my gym when I lived in Chicago--I liked it a lot, it's a Y and I think they're the cheapest to join in the city, at least they were the cheapest that I found when I researched it all. I originally joined because I'd signed up for aikido classes (which I highly recommend! There's a great place near the Belmont stop.) and I was so sore after the first one that I could hardly walk up and down stairs--even moving during my sleep would wake me up, it was so painful. This was due to my lack of shape, rather than the martial arts themselves. Anyway, I decided to work out as well to prevent future soreness and the Y was the cheapest I found. Plus after going I'd stop at whole foods and buy some good vegetables and go home on the El feeling super healthy/smug.

― sgs (sgs), Friday, 22 October 2004 08:02 (twenty-one years ago)

one month passes...

I've reached the 3 stone mark. Was a bit disheartened but i suppose i've only been at it for 4 months, s'not that bad. With a bit of luck i should be on the cuddly side of acceptable in time for my 30th birthday in june when i plan to go to Sonar.

― leigh (leigh), Monday, 22 November 2004 11:52 (twenty years ago)

That sounds excellent to me leigh!

I shouldn't be on this thread any more really; the quantities of chocolate raisins I consumed at the weekend testify to me not dieting at all :(

― Archel (Archel), Monday, 22 November 2004 13:11 (twenty years ago)

I have lost 1 whole stone. I am now 11 stones 6lbs, I think.

― cºzen (Cozen), Monday, 22 November 2004 13:13 (twenty years ago)

3 stone in 4 months sounds excellent to me also, Leigh. I'm holding steady in the past month, although I've quit it with the food diary, it was adding too much to my already plentiful neuroses. Holding steady suits me fine, but I fear what 2 weeks in America over the holidays + much less exercise will do.

― sgs (sgs), Monday, 22 November 2004 13:18 (twenty years ago)

I suppose the reason that 3 stone doesn't seem a lot to me is that i've still got a fair bit to lose. I'm sure you won't do too much damage in 2 weeks, Sarah.

― leigh (leigh), Monday, 22 November 2004 13:28 (twenty years ago)

one month passes...

If my mum's scales are right i've lost almost 4 stone. Xmas overindulgence will probably have scuppered it though.

― leigh (leigh), Wednesday, 29 December 2004 14:32 (twenty years ago)

Crumbs, I have the bet of intentions but there's still soooo many chocolates to work through, I won't be able to start my health kick till they're done. That's my excuse.

― Rumpy Pumpkin, Wednesday, 29 December 2004 14:48 (twenty years ago)

I joined a gym, I'm going to start going after New Year's.

― Jordan (Jordan), Wednesday, 29 December 2004 14:54 (twenty years ago)

I got a big pail of white chocolate malteasers for xmas which i demolished between xmas day and 27/12. Back on the straight and narrow from now on.

― leigh (leigh), Wednesday, 29 December 2004 14:57 (twenty years ago)

I gained 4 pounds this month. I would like to thank the cruise, the alcohol, and holiday chocolates. But both my sister and boyfriend say I was too skinny anyway. What the hell? How come I feel like my "too skinny" isn't even small enough to be the normal person's "normal?"

― Sarah McLusky (coco), Wednesday, 29 December 2004 14:58 (twenty years ago)

I used to be delighted with my weight/figure, it was just right, but when I told my mum I once again aspire to get back to that she says "Don't you bother! You looked ill! I thought you were on drugs lassie!"

Families are biased.

― Rumpty Pum pum pum, Wednesday, 29 December 2004 15:04 (twenty years ago)

I expect I'm back up to 13 stone. So, see you on this thread in a few days :/

― Markelby (Mark C), Wednesday, 29 December 2004 15:17 (twenty years ago)

I've lost nearly 20 pounds this year. 16 more to go!

― tokyo rosemary (rosemary), Thursday, 30 December 2004 03:57 (twenty years ago)

oh, weird, melody nelson. i met you in the dj booth at atomique when ilirjana was dj'ing. we were talking but then te bell rang and i cut off our conversation to hurry and get free red stripe.

i need to gain about 10 pounds.

― phil-two (phil-two), Thursday, 30 December 2004 04:02 (twenty years ago)

I think you're confusing me with someone else.

― leigh (leigh), Thursday, 30 December 2004 10:15 (twenty years ago)

I'm going to get back to healthier eating & exercise after the new year. It's just got ridiculous again! *sigh*

― PinXorchiXoR (Pinkpanther), Thursday, 30 December 2004 10:19 (twenty years ago)

I'm now back on the straight and narrow - had a big bowl of salad and a mug of homemade vegetable soup for dinner. The 3 miniture heroes sweeties i had when visiting my grandpa don't count.

― leigh (leigh), Thursday, 30 December 2004 10:29 (twenty years ago)

12 stone 13 - 6 pounds heavier than mid september. Bugger. Still, that means only 6 pounds (minimum) - 13 pounds (maximum) to try and lose over the rest of the winter.

― Markelby (Mark C), Thursday, 30 December 2004 13:02 (twenty years ago)

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