Strange or hard-to-find foods that Tep should try

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In a couple weeks I'm going back to Jungle Jim's, which as you'll see from their page is a grocery store the size of a mall. They don't have everything -- some things aren't restocked with any real frequency because of low sell-through, some things are prohibitively expensive if they aren't in season somewhere easily distributed from, and so on. But they have an awful lot of stuff, particularly a lot of things that usually aren't distributed outside of their home region (I never would have expected to find Cheerwine, a Carolina soda, in Ohio -- ).

Unlike the last time I went, this time I will have just received a tax return I wasn't counting on, so I can afford to ask, "What kind of odd, rare, strange, gotta-try-once, or just plain fucked-up food should I look for?"

Tep (ktepi), Thursday, 4 March 2004 23:28 (twenty-one years ago)

WOW

s1ocki (slutsky), Thursday, 4 March 2004 23:31 (twenty-one years ago)

That -- in the parenthetical looks ominous now that I've forgotten what I started to type there.

Tep (ktepi), Thursday, 4 March 2004 23:31 (twenty-one years ago)

looks like you're getting all emily dickinson!

s1ocki (slutsky), Thursday, 4 March 2004 23:31 (twenty-one years ago)

the 'amish food' section is sort of interesting.

luna (luna.c), Thursday, 4 March 2004 23:33 (twenty-one years ago)

Because I could not shop for Death
he kindly shopped for me
The shopping cart held just ourselves
And tamarind kimchee

Tep (ktepi), Thursday, 4 March 2004 23:33 (twenty-one years ago)

Tep is a goodly man for that.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 4 March 2004 23:34 (twenty-one years ago)

The Amish section is very cool, and I didn't get any cheeses from it last time because I knew if I didn't assign a one-cheese-maximum, I'd spend all my money on cheese and Moxie.

No one say "rattlesnake," by the way, because it costs like $60 a package.

Tep (ktepi), Thursday, 4 March 2004 23:35 (twenty-one years ago)

do they have nice jamon iberico?

s1ocki (slutsky), Thursday, 4 March 2004 23:37 (twenty-one years ago)

did you just say "amish section"?!

s1ocki (slutsky), Thursday, 4 March 2004 23:37 (twenty-one years ago)

They do! I don't know for sure it's nice, but I know they have it.

And so-called "duck prosciutto," which I sort of want to hit a little for calling itself prosciutto, and then eat anyway.

Yep, we said Amish section :) Seriously, this place is huge. They're putting in a monorail to take people around the store.

A MONORAIL.

Tep (ktepi), Thursday, 4 March 2004 23:38 (twenty-one years ago)

Amish food: http://www.junglejims.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=home.viewPage&page_id=DC3E9E08-233F-4B21-AF8AB1CFA5652AFE

luna (luna.c), Thursday, 4 March 2004 23:38 (twenty-one years ago)

Tep - do you ever go to that one organic/health food grocery store in Bloomington, on the east/west road that goes to I-65?

hstencil, Thursday, 4 March 2004 23:38 (twenty-one years ago)

you might want to try some quebec cheeses; you've probably already tasted oka, but there's nice ewe and goat's milk stuff too.

xp A MONOTRAIL!?

s1ocki (slutsky), Thursday, 4 March 2004 23:39 (twenty-one years ago)

This place sounds amazing! Just reading about it is making me hungry.

El Diablo Robotico (Nicole), Thursday, 4 March 2004 23:39 (twenty-one years ago)

I want you to try this hot sauce: Blair’s Sudden Death... Made with red habanero pods, cayenne, pepper resin and Siberian ginseng. These sauces have their own skull and head keychain.

Because come on, skull keychain!

luna (luna.c), Thursday, 4 March 2004 23:39 (twenty-one years ago)

just repping my province there btw.

try and find a good cured spanish ham. they are sweet and delicious. and not very kosher, incidentally.

s1ocki (slutsky), Thursday, 4 March 2004 23:40 (twenty-one years ago)

god i'm so hungry now.

s1ocki (slutsky), Thursday, 4 March 2004 23:40 (twenty-one years ago)

this webpage is literally making me drool! i am currently drooling!

s1ocki (slutsky), Thursday, 4 March 2004 23:40 (twenty-one years ago)

Tep - do you ever go to that one organic/health food grocery store in Bloomington, on the east/west road that goes to I-65?

Bloomingfoods! Right? I don't know roads, but I think that must be it. I love it. I've been getting local apples there once a week, and nearly every time I go they have organic citrus they didn't have the time before ("pixie tangerines" this week, which are tangerines the size of golfballs, sweet and juicy but tarter than oranges).

Blair's hot sauces are pretty good -- I had those a lot in New Orleans, but that doesn't rule out buying some again.

Tep (ktepi), Thursday, 4 March 2004 23:43 (twenty-one years ago)

Parade-rainer-on-er!

luna (luna.c), Thursday, 4 March 2004 23:44 (twenty-one years ago)

(If there's ever a Cincinnati FAP...)

When you say "a good cured Spanish ham," is it worth the extra bucks to get a whole (or whole piece) of ham and not slices? (I was tempted by a whole prosciutto last time, but I was on a budget, and that was at the front of the store.)

I'm not raining on your parade, damn you!

Tep (ktepi), Thursday, 4 March 2004 23:45 (twenty-one years ago)

I imagine it's always better to get a whole piece, rather than pre-sliced.

s1ocki (slutsky), Thursday, 4 March 2004 23:48 (twenty-one years ago)

Tep - yeah I think that's the place. I had lunch there last summer, it was pretty good. Kinda like Whole Foods except locally owned.

hstencil, Thursday, 4 March 2004 23:48 (twenty-one years ago)

Yep, that's it, then (there's another place that used to have lots of organic stuff but wasn't a co-op, but they've been bought out now). Weirdly, they're also the only ones in town who have the JustFruits/JustVeggies stuff (but at least someone does).

Gawk at the Wall of Beer.

Tep (ktepi), Thursday, 4 March 2004 23:51 (twenty-one years ago)

mmmm Holsten Pils

j4n (Wintermute), Friday, 5 March 2004 00:01 (twenty-one years ago)

Yes but A MONORAIL FOR FUCK'S SAKE

Matt (Matt), Friday, 5 March 2004 00:37 (twenty-one years ago)

A MONORAIL!!!!

luna (luna.c), Friday, 5 March 2004 00:41 (twenty-one years ago)

Damn straight

Matt (Matt), Friday, 5 March 2004 00:42 (twenty-one years ago)

But what about us drunken slobs?

Matt (Matt), Friday, 5 March 2004 00:42 (twenty-one years ago)

tep if you can find (and eat) scrapple with anchioves in it (yes it exists), then i will give you $100

strongo hulkington (dubplatestyle), Friday, 5 March 2004 00:43 (twenty-one years ago)

i call the big one bitey

strongo hulkington (dubplatestyle), Friday, 5 March 2004 00:43 (twenty-one years ago)

If I find it and it doesn't cost an arm and a leg (which it shouldn't, cause I mean, it's scrapple), I'll try it for free!

Tep (ktepi), Friday, 5 March 2004 00:45 (twenty-one years ago)

the $100 is payment for when you get ill

strongo hulkington (dubplatestyle), Friday, 5 March 2004 00:46 (twenty-one years ago)

Well I mean, if I open the package and it smells like someone puked durian into a dead fish, I'm not gonna eat it.

Tep (ktepi), Friday, 5 March 2004 00:51 (twenty-one years ago)

Revive cause I'm going on Friday.

They have fresh durian for $3.99 each, but I'm not gonna buy any.

Tep (ktepi), Thursday, 18 March 2004 05:10 (twenty-one years ago)

You have to get some cheese this time.

oops (Oops), Thursday, 18 March 2004 05:14 (twenty-one years ago)

I am so gonna. I got a little cheddar last time, but this time, I'm not on as tight a budget. I'm gonna see about getting one of those Wensleydales-with-stuff-in-em that the British ILXors are always talking about.

Oh, and possibly this trip will also involve a meal at a West African restaurant, which I'm happy about. It's a very food-oriented trip, we've been discussing restaurant options etc.

Tep (ktepi), Thursday, 18 March 2004 05:22 (twenty-one years ago)

They have fresh durian for $3.99 each, but I'm not gonna buy any.

Wuss.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 18 March 2004 05:24 (twenty-one years ago)

It's not cause of me! It's cause this apartment ventilates for shit (when I make boiled shrimp, we get sore throats from the cayenne in the water) and I got a girlfriend and two cats who'd hate me.

Tep (ktepi), Thursday, 18 March 2004 05:27 (twenty-one years ago)

Hm...eat it outside. And bring toothpaste.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 18 March 2004 05:28 (twenty-one years ago)

I'm not sure if I'm willing to be "that fruit guy" after standing outside with a durian and toothpaste. (I'm tempted, though. It's $4. That barely buys a comic book anymore.)

Tep (ktepi), Thursday, 18 March 2004 05:29 (twenty-one years ago)

I just had my first experience with layered cheese yesterday. Gloucester n' Stilton with some crackers. Hot damn.

oops (Oops), Thursday, 18 March 2004 05:29 (twenty-one years ago)

koala tacos?

the music mole (colin s barrow), Thursday, 18 March 2004 05:30 (twenty-one years ago)

Is it legal to eat koala? Holy balls! I'm gonna look for koala. The rattlesnake I cannot afford, but the kangaroo I mostly can, so who knows.

Tep (ktepi), Thursday, 18 March 2004 05:31 (twenty-one years ago)

(Actually, that sums up this place right there: kangaroo is on sale this week.)

Tep (ktepi), Thursday, 18 March 2004 05:32 (twenty-one years ago)

If they have Knorr brand caldo de pollo powder in those brown glass jars, that would be one good thing you could get. That is a huge culinary lifesaver over here in this household. HUGE. As in, "Ain't no way I'm having homemade chicken soup or Mexican rice or fideo without this." Very delicious chicken-y flavor. Also, if they have the (Nestle) Abuelita brand of Mexican hot chocolate, THAT STUFF IS KILLER. It would also be cool if you could find Doña Maria mole sauce, because that's the off-the-shelf mole sauce everyone around here uses.

Do you think they'd have Bolner's Fiesta spices? If so, THAT WOULD BE SO COOL. Especiall if they have the chili powder, garlic powder, cinnamon sticks, ground comino, and fajita seasoning. And whenever Mom makes her Lenten albondigas, she always uses their dried shrimp powder, or as their website lists, "shrimp, dried - ground".

Many Coloured Halo (Dee the Lurker), Thursday, 18 March 2004 06:06 (twenty-one years ago)

(Note: I have no idea whether these products are actually just available anywhere up where you're at. *smiles*)

Many Coloured Halo (Dee the Lurker), Thursday, 18 March 2004 06:09 (twenty-one years ago)

Tep, no! Wensleydale with fruit or whatever in it is the work of the devil. Have it plain, that way is best. If they have Colston Bassett stilton, give them all your clothes as well as your money, just to get an ounce more, it's that good.

chris (chris), Thursday, 18 March 2004 09:21 (twenty-one years ago)

Chris is absolutely correct. Wensleydale with fannydangles is to be avoided. If they happen to have any Leetoaster Lancashire, nab some of that as well. Works beautifully with proper Staffordshire oatcakes.

Ricardo (RickyT), Thursday, 18 March 2004 10:14 (twenty-one years ago)

Ricky the T is correct as well, also Mrs Kirkhams crumbly lancashire (which may now only be called Kirkhams as Mrs has retired I think and her son has taken over)

Basically wensleydale with fruit = cheese for people who don't want to taste cheese.


mmmmmm oatcakes - T do you fry yours in butter and then put a fried egg on top too?

chris (chris), Thursday, 18 March 2004 10:20 (twenty-one years ago)

I have not done that, but it sounds like an extraordinarily good idea.

Ricardo (RickyT), Thursday, 18 March 2004 10:27 (twenty-one years ago)

it is, I put brown sauce on mine - oh my. In fact we're off up north weekend after next, a trip to the Chatsworth farm shop for a big bag of them may well be in order.

chris (chris), Thursday, 18 March 2004 10:36 (twenty-one years ago)

Pfft bloody Northerners. I am a right jessie and I like white Stilton with apricots in. When in the right mood.

Liz :x (Liz :x), Thursday, 18 March 2004 12:23 (twenty-one years ago)

I'm not angry with you dappers, just disappointed

chris (chris), Thursday, 18 March 2004 12:29 (twenty-one years ago)

My god they have AASS BEER! I have been looking for Norwegian Beer for two years now to bring to the inlaws house. I have been unable to get it.

Chris 'The Velvet Bingo' V (Chris V), Thursday, 18 March 2004 13:17 (twenty-one years ago)

See, this is definitely the place of stuff-you've-been-looking-for-for-two-years-and-unable-to-find.

Was it a Wensleydale or something else that someone mentioned on another thread as having ginger in it? Dude, a cheese with ginger in it would have to be tried, even at the risk of epicurean atrocity. It's cheese and ginger!

Knorr caldo de pollo -- they used to have that at the Vietnamese-run Latin market in the black German neighborhood I lived in, I believe, which makes me even more curious if JJ's has it (that was a strange market, home of the mole sauces that cannot be opened). The Nestle Abuelita I know they have, cause I almost got some last time and then didn't.

Bolner's Fiesta spices. I will look.

I've never had oatcakes proper or not, but Leetoaster Lancashire -- or Lancashire in general -- sounds like something to look for. I've yet to have a British cheese that wasn't worth buying.

Tep (ktepi), Thursday, 18 March 2004 15:12 (twenty-one years ago)

yeah but too bad im a million miles away from this store and they don't sell beer over the internet.

Chris 'The Velvet Bingo' V (Chris V), Thursday, 18 March 2004 15:14 (twenty-one years ago)

Oh, I know. I knew about this place for years before I was close enough to go. Cause it's not like there're a whole lot of other reasons to go to Cincinnati.

Tep (ktepi), Thursday, 18 March 2004 15:15 (twenty-one years ago)

well there is WKRP.....Dr. Johnny Fever is always looking for company.

Chris 'The Velvet Bingo' V (Chris V), Thursday, 18 March 2004 15:16 (twenty-one years ago)

I keep hoping to run into him at the Thai place :/

No one finds it funny enough when I go outside and shout "turkeys are hitting the ground like bags of wet cement!"

Tep (ktepi), Thursday, 18 March 2004 15:19 (twenty-one years ago)

What's this about ass beer?


Is it legal to eat koala?

I came up with the idea of koala tacos a while back and cannot exorcise the image. So if you want to bring it to fruition...

Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 18 March 2004 16:14 (twenty-one years ago)

I just read this thread and kept misreading SNAPPLE with anchovies aaaaaaaaaaagh!!!!!

quincie, Thursday, 18 March 2004 16:49 (twenty-one years ago)

Try mdh masala spices. It seems they made one for possibly every dishes and it's a good thing.

Sébastien Chikara (Sébastien Chikara), Thursday, 18 March 2004 16:51 (twenty-one years ago)

Our local supermarket has started selling stilton with mango and ginger in it. It's very weird, and not very good.

ailsa (ailsa), Thursday, 18 March 2004 16:52 (twenty-one years ago)

I'm gonna look for this, and am hoping they have some very small containers of lots of different honeys at the much-ballyhooed honey table, because I'd like to see if anything can shake me from my conviction that Tupelo honey is the best honey on the planet. (I really recommend Zingerman's, by the way, but they're spendy.)

Tep (ktepi), Friday, 19 March 2004 04:51 (twenty-one years ago)

are you going to be buying any beer tep?

s1ocki (slutsky), Friday, 19 March 2004 04:52 (twenty-one years ago)

I might. I never heard back from the Wine Dept about whether they'd have any Bonny Doon wines in stock, so if I'm not buying wine, I might well buy beer. Unfortunately they don't have a make-your-own sixpack kind of deal, which would be great -- but they had plenty of Belgian beers, so I'm good :)

(I probably wouldn't be able to make it out of the store without some lambic, I think I could almost measure my disposable income in how many bottles of kriek lambic I let myself buy.)

Tep (ktepi), Friday, 19 March 2004 04:55 (twenty-one years ago)

you might want to try some quebec microbrew--there are a lot of good ones here, notably cheval blanc--if they have

s1ocki (slutsky), Friday, 19 March 2004 04:57 (twenty-one years ago)

tep, i really want to come to yr house for dinner.

Ask For Samantha (thatgirl), Friday, 19 March 2004 09:14 (twenty-one years ago)

So come! I will probably flood this thread with "tonight I made blueberry duck again, but this time I made a side of fava beans, sorrel, and orecchiette to go with it" and whatnot, not only breaking down what I bought at JJ but what I did with it. The next cookbook will probably end up being "Stuff I Bought At Jungle Jim's And Then."

I'll look for Quebec microbrews. I know they have a Canadian section on the wall of beer, don't remember if Quebec is segregated within it or not.

Tep (ktepi), Friday, 19 March 2004 14:08 (twenty-one years ago)

Tep - a Belgian Trappist beer called Westmallen - it's all I've been drinking at home lately (Sainsburys have it on offer here folks!!) and it's absolutely gorgeous - brown bottle with a thicker, collar type bit at the base of the neck

chris (chris), Friday, 19 March 2004 14:14 (twenty-one years ago)

Westmallen, got it. Never met a Belgian I didn't like! Except Delirium Tremens.

Tep (ktepi), Friday, 19 March 2004 14:17 (twenty-one years ago)

oh, we have a bottle of that at home, it keeps calling to me but it's a bit creepy.

We've also got a Rochefort which is something mental like 12%

We had another one too, from Alsace with a swingtop and art nouveau graphics which is delicious, but I can't for the life of me remember it's name, begins with a d though

chris (chris), Friday, 19 March 2004 14:30 (twenty-one years ago)

This place surely must have Ajvar?

Ajvar is this spicy eggplant/roasted red pepper spread/sauce that goes well on toast and other things, like pasta.

donut bitch (donut), Friday, 19 March 2004 16:07 (twenty-one years ago)

Who is Ajvar?

donut bitch (donut), Friday, 19 March 2004 16:08 (twenty-one years ago)

My wine store in New Orleans had that, but I've never actually tried it (food items at this place were usually overpriced). I'll look!

Tep (ktepi), Friday, 19 March 2004 16:10 (twenty-one years ago)

do you have a digital camera so you can take pictures of everything and post them here?

s1ocki (slutsky), Friday, 19 March 2004 16:11 (twenty-one years ago)

Aw maaaaan, spices are just flipping spices though really, aren't they, I'd bulk up on the really hard to get stuff rather than garlic powder or whatever which REALLY won't differ that much, will it now.

Although on saying that my new chilli powder (I'm too sodding LAZY for real actual chillis) is a f#cking STONKER. Wooosht.

Sarah (starry), Friday, 19 March 2004 16:13 (twenty-one years ago)

Spice quality makes a difference sometimes, but it depends, I guess. It's kind of like with a lot of alcohols, I think: as long as you're avoiding the crappy stuff, you're fine. So yeah, I'm not gonna be looking for too much in that department -- and what I can't find locally I get mail order anyway (my Penzey's shipment just came yesterday; Mexican oregano, dried whole ginger, zatar, etc.)

I don't have a digital camera exactly, but I have a phone cam. Some things/colors/sizes of objects come through better than others.

Today, as soon as I'm done with laundry and this chapter, I'm going out to buy a bigger cooler. How's that for shopping commitment?

(The one I brought last time was big enough to put stuff in, but not big enough for stuff + ice -- it was still below freezing outside, so it didn't matter, but we're in the 40s and 50s now).

Tep (ktepi), Friday, 19 March 2004 16:22 (twenty-one years ago)

omg. this place is in ohio? i have to visit parents in cle. next month... i think i'm going to suggestion a road trip to the grocery store of my dreams as a family bonding activity.

lauren (laurenp), Friday, 19 March 2004 16:31 (twenty-one years ago)

Yep, it's in Cincinnati! Or right outside Cincy? Right in that area, in any case. No idea how near that is to Cleveland, my Midwest geography is shit.

Tep (ktepi), Friday, 19 March 2004 16:34 (twenty-one years ago)

it's about a four hour drive, which is just long enough to qualify as a pain in the ass although this seems totally worth it.

lauren (laurenp), Friday, 19 March 2004 16:39 (twenty-one years ago)

That's how long it is from Bloomington. Just make a day of it (well, we make a weekend of it, but we have friends in Lafayette and Cincinnati, so it's this whole big thing). Cincinnati has a surprising number of very good restaurants (but for all I know, so does Cleveland), and the aquarium's wicked good too.

Tep (ktepi), Friday, 19 March 2004 16:43 (twenty-one years ago)

OK, so I really wantto go to this place, is there anywhere like it near Miami or the keys that I can go to when we're down there next month (NEXT MONTH!!!!!)

chris (chris), Friday, 19 March 2004 17:14 (twenty-one years ago)

or near montreal (in vermont maybe?)

s1ocki (slutsky), Friday, 19 March 2004 17:38 (twenty-one years ago)

Like it, maybe, but ... not by much, is my guess. Apparently the owner is a wacky food nut who just keeps investing the store's profits into making it more and more insane (it used to be more of a regular grocery store and has expanded as he's able to afford expansion). They're putting in their own artificial pond or huge tank or something for fish; the aforementioned monorail; there's a greenhouse for growing produce and flowers; and so on and so forth.

I can't quite figure out how they can do business, since so much of the fresh product has to be moved quickly -- which is why it's so hard to find to begin with. My theory -- unless Ohio just has a huge concentration of foodies with money to burn -- is that enough people go out of their way to come in and get the big ticket items that the profit margin on those pays for everyone else. (Cause I mean, I'm making a big deal out of this and everything, but it's spectacularly unlikely that I'd spend more than $300, so it's not guys like me who keep them running.) They have bottles of balsamic vinegar that cost hundreds of dollars, white truffle oil, things like that that make an astronomical amount of money relative to the minuscule shelf space they take up.

But dude, Chris, there are plenty of great things about Florida this time of year :) And in a month, it'll be warm enough that I'd think there'd be some farmers' markets and fresh citrus.

Tep (ktepi), Friday, 19 March 2004 17:53 (twenty-one years ago)

Company's here and we leave in the morning, but I'm posting this to remind myself to post about trying the Jones Turkey & Gravy soda.

Tep (ktepi), Friday, 19 March 2004 20:29 (twenty-one years ago)

Oh I'm sure there will be a whole load of stuff for us to get down there, I'm especially glad that we went for an apartment in Key west rather than a hotel as it means I get a kitchen to play in for the week - mmmmm stone crab claws with chilli and lime butter

chris (chris), Friday, 19 March 2004 20:48 (twenty-one years ago)

It's about a four hour drive from my house! I think a road trip is in order some time in the near future.

El Diablo Robotico (Nicole), Friday, 19 March 2004 21:30 (twenty-one years ago)

maybe we'll find out that somehow everybody is four hours away from this place!

s1ocki (slutsky), Friday, 19 March 2004 22:55 (twenty-one years ago)

Jungle Jim's FAP!

El Diablo Robotico (Nicole), Friday, 19 March 2004 23:01 (twenty-one years ago)

Krispy. Kreme. Burger.

Tep (ktepi), Monday, 22 March 2004 01:47 (twenty-one years ago)

Please tell me it didn't include cheese.

El Diablo Robotico (Nicole), Monday, 22 March 2004 01:53 (twenty-one years ago)

Hell no. We went through Rally's (burger drive-through), got two burgers (plain, nothing, no ketchup, pickles, cheese, etc.), went to Krispy Kreme, got four hot regular donuts, and assembled two Krispy Kreme burgers.

It happened cause I thought I remembered reading something on the web about someone doing that, but now I can't find it.

It's better than the McGriddle.

Cheese would totally fuck it up, though. (Also, you have to use the bun as a panini press, to compress the donuts down so that the thing isn't six inches high.)

Tep (ktepi), Monday, 22 March 2004 02:27 (twenty-one years ago)

Stuff I did not find that's mentioned up-thread:

Tamarind kimchee (I suppose that doesn't count)
Jamon iberico, they were out; but I got bresaola and prosciutto
Scrapple with anchovies, sorry Jess
Durian, because I was talked out of it
Koala tacos
Any Mexican stuff; the place is huuuuuge, and I somehow took a wrong turn or missed an aisle or something and never hit the Mexican section (although I did hit the Spanish section)

I found my Bonny Doon freisa frizzante, though! And so much else.

Tep (ktepi), Monday, 22 March 2004 03:08 (twenty-one years ago)

tep, that's disgusting.

Ask For Samantha (thatgirl), Monday, 22 March 2004 04:03 (twenty-one years ago)

so what DID you get, besides the nasty-sounding (forgive me) krispy kreme burgers?

s1ocki (slutsky), Monday, 22 March 2004 05:23 (twenty-one years ago)

haha do they have someone stationed next to the durian warning people?

teeny (teeny), Monday, 22 March 2004 11:31 (twenty-one years ago)

haha TEP IS LUTHER VANDROSS AND I CLAIM MY $5!!!!

strongo hulkington (dubplatestyle), Monday, 22 March 2004 14:19 (twenty-one years ago)

It's really not bad! We were expecting it to be terrible, though, so it's all relative.

There's no durian steward, but there is a sign saying king of fruits, blah blah blah, potent odor, blah blah blah, not for everyone, la dee da.

I'll type up what I got in a moment, I saved the receipt rather than try to rely on memory of what's been put in the refrigerator and cupboards.

Tep (ktepi), Monday, 22 March 2004 14:29 (twenty-one years ago)


Diet Barq's red cream, which I've never seen despite living in Louisiana.
Harry Potter Easter chocolate set of some kind, with a giant egg and other things, for Scout; not sure what's in it, but it's part of the UK line of HP candies.
Muscovado sugar, that really really really dark brown sugar with hard molasses-y chunks here and there that barely dissolve in coffee.
Harry Potter Chocolate Frogs
Kemper Orange Cream soda
Orangina Rouge! Like Orangina, but with blood orange pulp and guarana; less sweet than the regular stuff, which I like.
MCV CHOC HOMEWHT. I'm not sure what that is. It's on the receipt. It's not the El Rey white chocolate bar, since I got that at Mister Table.
Two bottles of Fanta Orange from Holland, where it's made differently (again, less sweet, more tart).
A small bottle of maple syrup. It was so expensive that I'm gonna have to make sure to get a keg of it or some damn thing when I'm back in New Hampshire in May.
Several bottles of Moxie.
One bottle of Moxie-labeled orange cream soda, for Scout. It isn't made by the Moxie company, it's made by Real Soda, who licenses the Moxie rights. Oh crap, I forgot to buy Cheerwine. Hrm.
Club Rock Shandy, some kind of UK soda for Scout.
Isigny creme -- basically Redi-Whip whipped-cream-in-a-can, but made with real cream and vanilla bean. Indulgent, but very good.
Bewley's instant coffee, something Scout got a liking for when she was living in Ireland.
Africola.
Thums-Up (no b), an Indian soda I really like, from Coca-Cola, that rang up simply as "INDIAN SODA."
Kalamata olive oil.
Salt-packed capers.
Ribena Spark, which is probably some sort of soda.
Tart red cherry juice.
Bonny Doon's Ca Del Solo freisa frizzante, that strawberry-ish sparkling wine I love so much and can't find in Bloomington (and Indiana's one of the states you can't mail-order wine in).
Bonny Doon's Ca Del Solo big house red, which Scout really likes and I like enough to drink; I'm not for the most part a red wine sort of person.
Irn Brew! Rock on.
Westmallen trappist ale
Four or five different brands of kriek (cherry) lambic
Sapphire sugar. Okay. Yeah. Sapphire sugar. See ... it's big crystals of sugar that have been colored by being infused with herb extracts.
Fleur de sel sea salt.
Vimto! Another favorite beverage.
Greek Attiki honey.
White coconut.
Big jar of ghee.
Can of San Marzano tomatoes.
Garlic mustard. Turns out the guy who was giving out the samples of mustard is the guy who makes the mustard, a guy who retired and that's what he does now, just makes this really great mustard. Had I realized, I would've bought two jars: Scout tried the garlic mustard, and loved it; I tried the garlic banana pepper mustard and went oh holy damn that's good, so he told me to try the garlic banana pepper horseradish mustard, which was also holy damn good. But Scout doesn't like banana peppers, so we just went with the garlic. It's the kind of mustard that'd be good on damn near anything.
A cinnamon sugar mill, which is surprisingly cool. It's like a pepper grinder, but filled with coarse sugar and smashed cinnamon sticks. Grind the top, and cinnamon sugar comes out the bottom: it actually is noticeably fresher and more intense-tasting, and I say that as someone who already owns improbably excellent cinnamon.
Purple potatoes.
Nishiki (shortish-grain) rice.
Basmati rice.
Jaffa cakes.
Cadbury crunch.
Fry's orange cream (some kind of candy bar; this is a Scout thing again)
Cadbury buttons
Dolfin chocolate bars: Dark chocolate with earl grey, and chocolate with mint leaves.
"LAZZ CHOC." Don't recollect what that is.
Baby pineapple.
Several things in a row that rang up as "W/S INTERNATIONAL." I'll come back and try to guess what those were.
A horned melon. Before going, like a week or two before, I had a dream that when we went to Jungle Jim's, their horned melons were all rotted through. When we went, all their horned melons except one were rotted, so we bought that one; it's kind of bland (you slice it open and scoop the pulp-covered seeds out, kind of like passion fruit), but good with sugar sprinkled on top.
Bertie Bott's beans
Blood oranges
Red Valencia oranges
Sour oranges, for cooking with
Cinnamon apple chips, which taste like Apple Jacks but better
One of each kind of Aero bar they had: white, regular, chunky, mint, and honeycomb, iirc
Cadbury Tiffin
Honey mints, which are great: think of York Peppermint patties, only the inner part is creamed honey whipped until it's the right consistency to sit there and not ooze, infused with oil of peppermint and coated in unsweetened chocolate.
Cadbury marble
Anjou pears
Woodpecker cider
Hawaiian onion kettle-cooked potato chips
Nestle honeycomb
White asparagus
Regular asparagus
Maroon carrots
Sweetie grapefruits
Knob onions from Texas; they look like thick scallions with bulbs at the bottom the size of garlic bulbs
Ugli fruit, aka Uniq fruit
Sweet lemons
"Living herbs" brand herbs, which are packed with roots and dirt intact to keep them viable longer: sorrel, basil, and opal basil.
A big ol' thing of baby arugula, and some edible flowers, to make a very gay salad.
Honey tangerines.
Fresh mozzarella
Harlech cheese, from Wales, with horseradish and parsley.
Clotted cream with brandy
Double devon butter
Duck legs and lots of them
Boneless kangaroo medallions, which I will probably use to make grillades.
Pork ears, because just before leaving I read about that restaurant in London that specializes in offal, and they have a crispy pork ear appetizer, and I thought, "Well, that'd be something."
Fresh side pork, to make my own bacon of some sort with. (It won't be smoked.)
Pepper bacon.
Hungarian kolozsvari bacon.
A bottle of sweet tokaji
Italian beef prosciutto
Bresaola

At Mister Table (they call it Sur La Table, I call it Mister Table, it's a kitchen store):
Two El Rey chocolate bars
Fleur de Sel caramels
Demiglace. I've always made it myself, but I decided to try the premade kind, which gets good reviews; it's much easier, and in some senses cheaper.

At Wild Oats, an organic grocery store:
Jalapeno cheetos. They're not Cheetos brand, they're some organic thing, but dude, jalapeno cheetos, that's all I'm saying.

Tep (ktepi), Monday, 22 March 2004 15:00 (twenty-one years ago)

(The many references to "Scout" there are to my girlfriend, since the list is doubling as a blog post for folks who know that.)

Tep (ktepi), Monday, 22 March 2004 15:01 (twenty-one years ago)

!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

s1ocki (slutsky), Monday, 22 March 2004 15:04 (twenty-one years ago)

!

s1ocki (slutsky), Monday, 22 March 2004 15:04 (twenty-one years ago)

i feel like a spent an hour reading that, even though it could only have been four minutes at most

s1ocki (slutsky), Monday, 22 March 2004 15:05 (twenty-one years ago)

MCV CHOC HOMEWHT = mcvities chocolate homewheat biscuits? if so, dunk 'em in yr coffee, for about 7 seconds.

Orangina rouge = num, but lots of people I know don't like it.

the pigs ears = good call, boil (iirc) then fry with breadcrumbs and serve with the mustard or even spread with mustard then dip in breadcrumbs and fry - that could be the winner

Hope you ebnjoy the westmalle

Woodpecker cider though??????? that's rough stuff dude

chris (chris), Monday, 22 March 2004 15:05 (twenty-one years ago)

it was like visiting a magical candyland!

s1ocki (slutsky), Monday, 22 March 2004 15:05 (twenty-one years ago)

The reason I didn't get as many cheeses as I expected to is cause we went on a Sunday right after lunch, and the cheese, beer, and deli sections -- where they don't have wide aisles built to accomodate two-way traffic -- were packed, and I frequently had to "park" the cart fifty feet away in some section no one was looking at and then dodge people and carts in order to go browse.

Tep (ktepi), Monday, 22 March 2004 15:06 (twenty-one years ago)

how many hours would you say you spent in there in total?

s1ocki (slutsky), Monday, 22 March 2004 15:08 (twenty-one years ago)

the sour oranges - ar ethey Sevilles (it's a little late in the year for them) if they are, make marmalade.

chris (chris), Monday, 22 March 2004 15:08 (twenty-one years ago)

We had Woodpecker on tap when we went to the Irish place in town the other night, and it was really good (granted, I'd just had a scotch) -- I like Hornby's better for bottled, but it was Scout's choice, so hey.

The Orangina rouge is incrediby incredibly good and I wish I'd bought twenty of them.

Boil the pigs' ears first? That makes sense. This will be interesting. As with the pigs' feet last time, I've promised to do this sometime when I have the apartment to myself.

I don't think the sour oranges are Sevilles -- they're Latin American, tend to be used in Cuban cooking for marinades; I haven't seen them sold as anything but sour oranges or bitter oranges.

We spent two and a half hours there :)

Tep (ktepi), Monday, 22 March 2004 15:09 (twenty-one years ago)

Woodpeckers the standard pub cider over here you see, I must admit to having the odd pint in summer with ice in it.

There's a Hugh Fearnley Whittingstall recipe for pigs ears, I'll try and dig it out at home tonight

chris (chris), Monday, 22 March 2004 15:15 (twenty-one years ago)

Cool, thank you!

Tep (ktepi), Monday, 22 March 2004 15:31 (twenty-one years ago)

I found it online:

It's from
'The River Cottage Cookbook' by Hugh Fearnley-Whittingstall (my hero!).

2 pig's ears, simmered gently with the head (or without, I suppose - but the
simmering should be done in well flavoured stock, for around 2 and a half
hours!), then removed from the liquid and cooled, with any hairs removed.
2-3 tablespoons of English mustard (Colmans is yer only man!)
Fresh breadcrumbs for coating
50g melted butter.

Slice the ears into strips. Using a pastry brush, give them a light coating
of mustard. Roll them in the breadcrumbs, and brush with the melted butter.
Roast in a 220 degree C oven for 30 - 40 mins. Serve with tartare sauce, or
plain, as pre-meal nibbles - beautifully crunchy - llike a slightly more
chewy crackling.

chris (chris), Monday, 22 March 2004 15:38 (twenty-one years ago)

I think you have to boil pig ears for a bit before frying as it gets the fat giggling a bit. Like pouring just-boiled water over pricked duck breasts before pan-frying them or whatever.

That's a great list of tasty stuff though. *dribble* You appear to get wacky Cadbury's things that we don't even have here!

Liz :x (Liz :x), Monday, 22 March 2004 15:42 (twenty-one years ago)

I keep on thinking about the gorgeous cheese I bought at the farmer's market last week (although admittedly the talk of pig's ears has taken away my appetite a little). It's called Pyramid and it's an ash-coated goat's cheese, reeeeaalllly creamy, sweet and tasty, almost fruity but with the ash giving a lovely smoky bite. Since the Brighton farmer's market stopped I hadn't found it anywhere until last week. And in a minute I'll remember the farm that make it, so I can plug them properly. They do markets all over Surrey, Sussex and Kent anyway. (Though I'd be very surprised if Tep could track it down across the Atlantic, despite the astonishing list above!)

Archel (Archel), Monday, 22 March 2004 16:03 (twenty-one years ago)

you can get that at Borough market iirc, and yeah, it's tasty (I haven't been down there in weeks :o(

chris (chris), Monday, 22 March 2004 16:07 (twenty-one years ago)

Only poofs remove the hairs. Only poofs cook the ears. Only poofs make sure the pig is dead first. For shame.

(Woodpecker cider - that's like us getting excited about PBR or something).

Markelby (Mark C), Monday, 22 March 2004 16:11 (twenty-one years ago)

The Cadbury stuff was all in the British section! If any of it sounded unfamiliar, maybe it rang up weirdly? I don't know. I was more into the Aero bars, although honeycomb anything is great by me, and we don't have much of that in the States.

The pigs' ears I am very excited about. I'll probably have them with sriracha. I have nearly everything with sriracha or Tabasco.

Just out of curiosity -- the non-American cider section was small, so I might not ever be able to use the info -- what are the great bottled ciders, for you guys?

Tep (ktepi), Monday, 22 March 2004 16:16 (twenty-one years ago)

Anything that's from Dorrrrrrset or Devon, pretty much. If it's called 'scrumpy' (but not the brand named Scrumpy Jack, which bites), it's probably strong and evil in a good way. NB this kind of cider may be slightly opaque and have bits floating in it, not to try to frighten you or anything.

Liz :x (Liz :x), Monday, 22 March 2004 16:18 (twenty-one years ago)

and the spanish (well Basque) Sidra Natural, with plenty of bits in the bottom = loopy juice.

But yeah, Liz speaks the truth. If you ever find Snakecatcher cider from the New forest - get the rough stuff and take the next day off work

chris (chris), Monday, 22 March 2004 16:21 (twenty-one years ago)

Ooh, no, that sounds good. Before cider caught on here, I was living in an orchard town, so we used to just let the unpasteurized local stuff sit in the back of the fridge until it turned, and that's what it looked like. (Everything else has seemed kind of lightweight since.)

Tep (ktepi), Monday, 22 March 2004 16:21 (twenty-one years ago)

Nut Knowle Farm.

Mm, I can't wait til I can finally get up to Borough Market. I want to buy a tortilla press for Matt from the coolchile.co.uk people, although they seem to have been out of stock via the website for months.

Archel (Archel), Monday, 22 March 2004 16:24 (twenty-one years ago)

what cadbury stuff did you get tep? did you get a fruit & nut bar (my favourite mass-market chocolate bar)?

s1ocki (slutsky), Monday, 22 March 2004 16:28 (twenty-one years ago)

I just had a Fruit & Nut, or Dairy Milk Fruit & Nut as they're now so catchily called. Num. I wish Cadbury's Rum & Raisin was more widely available; I can only find it on weird market stalls.

Archel (Archel), Monday, 22 March 2004 16:31 (twenty-one years ago)

sometimes i'm grateful for this whole commonwealth thing.

s1ocki (slutsky), Monday, 22 March 2004 16:32 (twenty-one years ago)

Can you still get Cadbury's Old Jamaica bars? I kind of liked them, but they appear to have fallen by the nu Everything Is Dairy Milk attitude wayside chez Bournville.

Liz :x (Liz :x), Monday, 22 March 2004 16:33 (twenty-one years ago)

old jamaica? what are those?

s1ocki (slutsky), Monday, 22 March 2004 16:36 (twenty-one years ago)

Hm, I certainly haven't seen them lately.

Archel (Archel), Monday, 22 March 2004 16:37 (twenty-one years ago)

Didn't get a Fruit & Nut bar cause I can get those locally (the Dairy Milk, Fruit and Nut, and Royal Dark Cadbury bars are generally carried in American drugstores for some reason; I'm not sure if they're necessarily the same ones, I guess, maybe I should've gotten a small one to compare).

But I have a honeycomb thing! Now I forget if it's Nestle or Cadbury. I've put the chocolate away since it's still Lent.

(Although I allowed myself a Vimto.)

Tep (ktepi), Monday, 22 March 2004 16:37 (twenty-one years ago)

Is it a Crunchie Tep?

Archel (Archel), Monday, 22 March 2004 16:38 (twenty-one years ago)

http://store4.yimg.com/I/evryaustralian_1780_1818502

Milk & plain chocolate blend with rum-flavoured raisins. Yum.

Liz :x (Liz :x), Monday, 22 March 2004 16:41 (twenty-one years ago)

Blimey that's enormous. Sorry.

Liz :x (Liz :x), Monday, 22 March 2004 16:41 (twenty-one years ago)

yay for sapphire sugar. i still have some of the amethyst variety left from a multipack christmas gift. it has such a nice, mellow flavor.
my own jungle jim's excursion is a go. my parents think it's a bit odd, but at this point are desperate to spend time with me and will bow to my whims (and hopefully be liberal with the credit cards).

lauren (laurenp), Monday, 22 March 2004 16:42 (twenty-one years ago)

nice! i'm so jealous

s1ocki (slutsky), Monday, 22 March 2004 17:00 (twenty-one years ago)

i'll mail you a durian fruit.

lauren (laurenp), Monday, 22 March 2004 17:05 (twenty-one years ago)

One of each kind of Aero bar they had: white, regular, chunky, mint, and honeycomb, iirc

HONEYCOMB?????????????????????????????????????

luna (luna.c), Monday, 22 March 2004 17:21 (twenty-one years ago)

Yeah! It's got like -- lemme go get it. And the other candy bars while I'm at it.

Okay, I didn't find all of them (hrm), but the Aero honeycomb is an Aero with little "honeycomb" pieces in it, like in a Cadbury Crunchie. I haven't had it yet. Saving it for post-Easter.

Cadbury stuff -- Cadbury Marble (milk and white chocolate filled with praline, label tags it as "unashamed luxury"), Cadbury Dairy Milk Tiffin (milk chocolate with raisins and biscuits), Cadbury Crunchie. Possibly the girlfriend took some of the others.

The unidentified LAZZ above: Lazzaroni Amaretti di Saronno, a bittersweet chocolate bar with Amaretti di Saronno cookie crumbles in it.

Also, I think I forgot to list the osso bucco. Tonight's dinner is either osso bucco or kangaroo grillades. Haven't decided which is for tonight and which is tomorrow's. Lunch is white asparagus roasted ala N., bresaola with kalamata olive oil, and leftover wild mushroom risotto from Friday night.

Aimee -- I'm sitting there with pork ears in the cart, having just been talked out of durian, looking at $200 vinegars, and I ask my friend who lives there but grew up in New York, "So I'm gonna look for Drake's cakes, think they'll have em?" and he just shook his head sadly. And they didn't.

Tep (ktepi), Monday, 22 March 2004 17:33 (twenty-one years ago)

Crunchies aren't little pieces of honeycomb... unless you mean it's the honeycomb like in Crunchies, in which case I'm already drooling 'cause they're my favorite candy anywhere, anytime, ever.

luna (luna.c), Monday, 22 March 2004 17:35 (twenty-one years ago)

No Drakes? Man. I'm all kinds of disappointed. My faith in Jungle Jim's is shaken - SHAKEN TO THE CORE.

luna (luna.c), Monday, 22 March 2004 17:35 (twenty-one years ago)

Exactly. The latter. It's not real honeycomb, it's honeycomb-the-candy-thing.

Tep (ktepi), Monday, 22 March 2004 17:36 (twenty-one years ago)

KEEP YOUR FAITH. They had everything else, for Pete's sake!

Tep (ktepi), Monday, 22 March 2004 17:36 (twenty-one years ago)

I know, I know, but I can't say that I'm not a little disappointed.

Must. Find. Aero. Honeycomb.

luna (luna.c), Monday, 22 March 2004 17:43 (twenty-one years ago)

Cadburys make a Dairy Milk with bits of honeycomb version too I think.

Archel (Archel), Monday, 22 March 2004 17:44 (twenty-one years ago)

OH MY GOD!

luna (luna.c), Monday, 22 March 2004 17:45 (twenty-one years ago)

That would be fantastic.

El Diablo Robotico (Nicole), Monday, 22 March 2004 17:49 (twenty-one years ago)

http://www.cadbury.co.uk/NR/rdonlyres/4A5F4B1D-1CDA-48C5-BED4-87BEFE7F23F4/0/cadhl01.jpg
!!

Archel (Archel), Monday, 22 March 2004 17:51 (twenty-one years ago)

This thread is torture. I was all excited because there was a new candy store in town that stocks all sorts of imported chocolates and I thought I could get some yummy candy bars. But when I got there they had sold out of everything but white aero bars -- and since I'm not crazy about white chocolate it was kind of a washout.

El Diablo Robotico (Nicole), Monday, 22 March 2004 17:54 (twenty-one years ago)

i'm so spoiled for choice with british/irish candy, as i live near a bunch of anglo-indian grocers. i can get moro bars and orange cadbury bars more easily in new york than i can in the u.k., which is kind of strange.

lauren (laurenp), Monday, 22 March 2004 17:59 (twenty-one years ago)

tep, have you ever had Ugli fruit before? I see it at the Meijer here and am very intrigued and afraid of it at the same time. Let me know what it tastes like.

oops (Oops), Monday, 22 March 2004 18:47 (twenty-one years ago)

I have! It's good. I got hooked on em when I was a teenager or so -- sometimes they're called Ugli fruit, sometimes Uniq. When they're ripe and just right, they're sweet as oranges but as tart as grapefruit; but it's sometimes hard to tell if they're ripe or not. When they start to dry out, they lose both flavors, and when they're still ripening, the tartness tends to overpower the sweetness.

Tep (ktepi), Monday, 22 March 2004 18:51 (twenty-one years ago)

I think whenever I go back to Dunedin I will capture a slew of all the good Cadbury's stuff there in a box and bring it to all the good ILXors on this thread as a reward for your food love.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 22 March 2004 19:37 (twenty-one years ago)

Why do we not have black currant sodas in the States? "Because we don't really have black currants either" is not a good enough answer since we don't have Cocas, either, and Peppers cannot go to school.

Tep (ktepi), Monday, 22 March 2004 20:24 (twenty-one years ago)

passionfruit soda is the motherfucking BOMB, and we don't got none of that, neither.

fuckers.

luna (luna.c), Monday, 22 March 2004 20:30 (twenty-one years ago)

Snapple used to make a passion fruit soda, which was why I bought passion fruits when they showed up in the grocery store. I forget now what it was called, but it was damn good.

Still one of my favorite cocktail recipes: scoop a passion fruit into a glass, break the pulp up a little, add a shot of tequila, top off with champagne.

Tep (ktepi), Monday, 22 March 2004 20:32 (twenty-one years ago)

I'm intrigued.

luna (luna.c), Monday, 22 March 2004 20:33 (twenty-one years ago)

Basically anything + tequila + champagne = good, when you come down to it. That's God's math.

Tep (ktepi), Monday, 22 March 2004 20:34 (twenty-one years ago)

Forgot to mention that when we got to JJ, we discovered they were in the process of putting together one of the many planned expansions (which will probably bleed off the crunch from the deli/bakery/cheese area, and which might explain why the Wall of Beer is no longer on permanent shelves, and Belgium was relocated to the British Isles). Among the expansions we could identify by the pieces which had been assembled:

A large sushi preparation area, which unless some of the space around it is going to go to something else, is larger than some sushi restaurants I've been in;

"The Olive Pit," which is a large salad bar except that everything is olives, instead of mucking around with lettuce and croutons (maybe this would mean I could find pitted Nicoise olives);

A Starbuck's (they have a coffee area already, which also sells store-made gourmet chocolates and cold sodas from the British, American, and Latin American sections, but it doesn't sell espresso drinks, just straight-up coffee).

Tep (ktepi), Monday, 22 March 2004 20:46 (twenty-one years ago)

my friend brought me passion fruit trident from brazil, but he tried a piece out of curiosity then wound up eating the whole pack before it could be handed over. same thing happened with the grapefruit trident someone else brought me from canada, boo.

lauren (laurenp), Monday, 22 March 2004 20:53 (twenty-one years ago)

PASSIONFRUIT TRIDENT? Holy fucksticks.

luna (luna.c), Monday, 22 March 2004 20:55 (twenty-one years ago)

Holy balls. There needs to be lots of passion fruit candy. Passion fruit Altoids! That's what we damn well need.

Tep (ktepi), Monday, 22 March 2004 20:59 (twenty-one years ago)

Have you tried the apple ones?

luna (luna.c), Monday, 22 March 2004 21:31 (twenty-one years ago)

Yep, just found em not long ago. They're ... wild. Sour apple but not really green apple, which is cool.

Tep (ktepi), Monday, 22 March 2004 21:35 (twenty-one years ago)

I concur.

luna (luna.c), Monday, 22 March 2004 21:35 (twenty-one years ago)

Official Jungle Jim's Meal #1:

Pineapple-Flower Salad

One baby pineapple, ends cut off, peeled, cored, cut into eighths from end to end. Use a cautious knife so you take off only as much as you need to, and do not hesitate to nibble on the pieces you've trimmed away.

On non-stick pan (preferably) over medium-high heat, sear (without oil or nothing, even if it's a stick pan) pineapple spears until golden on two sides. Refrigerate to get em cold again.

Put in bowl atop small heap of washed and dried baby arugula, garnished with edible flowers. Add a little salt, a little pepper.

Kangaroo grillades and basmati rice

Grillades are pounded medallions of meat, traditionally served over grits.

Wash and pound kangaroo medallions until even in thickness. Dredge in a little flour with a little salt, a little pepper. Add to hot skillet with oil or butter, brown both sides. Add the chopped white parts of two knob onions, and one chopped maroon carrot. Reduce heat to medium and stir until onions begin to transluce. Add minced garlic and a toothbrushing-amount of tomato paste.

Stir half a minute, and add meat broth of the kind of your choice, about 3/4 cup chopped tomato, and a bit of cayenne. Cook for an hour or so, covered, on low heat. Add a bit of marjoram right at the end, and serve over basmati rice.

Tep (ktepi), Monday, 22 March 2004 22:19 (twenty-one years ago)

Little red wine in there's good, too.

Tep (ktepi), Monday, 22 March 2004 22:34 (twenty-one years ago)

Tep, have you ever had dried bananas? Not banana chips. The sticky stick things.

N. (nickdastoor), Monday, 22 March 2004 22:43 (twenty-one years ago)

No! Sticky stick like how?

Tep (ktepi), Monday, 22 March 2004 22:45 (twenty-one years ago)

Like a long sticky stick of banana. They come all squashed together in a packet, like dried figs or something.

N. (nickdastoor), Monday, 22 March 2004 22:48 (twenty-one years ago)

hmm.

lauren (laurenp), Monday, 22 March 2004 22:52 (twenty-one years ago)

Wooo. I have to look for those.

Tep (ktepi), Monday, 22 March 2004 22:54 (twenty-one years ago)

Like this, but that's ridiculously expensive - my mum gets packets for about £1.

N. (nickdastoor), Monday, 22 March 2004 23:02 (twenty-one years ago)

i love ladyfinger bananas. i have to track these down, but not at $33 a throw.

lauren (laurenp), Monday, 22 March 2004 23:03 (twenty-one years ago)

Why do we not have black currant sodas in the States? "Because we don't really have black currants either" is not a good enough answer since we don't have Cocas, either, and Peppers cannot go to school.

hahaha in quebec "pepper" is a somewhat-derogatory term for the quebecois! because they like pepsi so much!

(anglos are tétes de carrés--squareheads!)

s1ocki (slutsky), Monday, 22 March 2004 23:45 (twenty-one years ago)

oh and i have a funny durian story!

so my friend is an exotic fruit fiend--he's travelled around and written articles on various amazing-sounding fruits (the miracle bean, a little thing that you suck on and then you bite into a lemon and it tastes SWEET, is one of my favourites)--anyway, this guy was working on a pitch for a documentary series about exotic fruit and the people who hunt for such things.

so he's in new york and he & his documentarian friend have this exotic-fruit-tasting party at said friend's swanky 5th ave. apartment. they produce some durians and cut them open, releasing the expected aroma.

now, some dowager in a neighbouring apartment gets a whiff of the durian, thinks it's a gas leak, and panics. she calls the building's owner, who's in miami. he calls the super, who drives down from queens. the super calls the gas company, who send a guy over. this whole motley crew goes door to door in the apartment building until they show up at my friend's friend's door. they enter and the dowager marches in, goes straight up to a scented candle sitting on the coffeetable (the candle isn't burning) and says "THIS IS IT."

s1ocki (slutsky), Monday, 22 March 2004 23:50 (twenty-one years ago)

At Oriental City (enormo-supermarket on North Circular Road in London) the durian stall is outside in the car park, and you get a good nostrilful of the aroma before heading in to stock up on cheapo cocount milk/sushi/whatever.

Them dried bananas are kind of nice, but bejaysus! how can they be charging $33 for 4 packs? Even in the wanky healthfood shop in Crouch End they're only about 50p a pack. Very chewy, and I don't know what to do with them apart from eating straight like other dried fruit.

Liz :x (Liz :x), Tuesday, 23 March 2004 10:02 (twenty-one years ago)

Some varieties are chewy. Others are softer.

Other thing you can do with them - say to unsuspecting visitors "Look - I'm eating a piece of poo!".

N. (nickdastoor), Tuesday, 23 March 2004 10:09 (twenty-one years ago)

Hurrah! I shall plan my social schedule around this.

Liz :x (Liz :x), Tuesday, 23 March 2004 10:10 (twenty-one years ago)

You really must.

N. (nickdastoor), Tuesday, 23 March 2004 10:13 (twenty-one years ago)

Gave in to temptation and had the Aero honeycomb. Holy balls. It's better than a Crunchie.

Fino honey: very good stuff.

Didn't otherwise cook today, particularly, because of taking too many pills for a headache. Tried vinegar chicken with dried crushed jalapeno instead of Tabasco peppers or the usual "crushed red peppers"; didn't like it as much, the jalapeno flavor didn't come through (although the peppers smell great) and it lacked the heat of the other versions.

Am making my own bacon, more or less (it's salt-cured, not smoked). It's sitting in the fridge in what is now a dark-red brine, because of the liquid the heavily seasoned salt-sugar combo has leeched from the meat.

Tomorrow, osso bucco. Nothing spectacularly unusual there, although I'll use some of the knob onions and maroon carrots.

The girlfriend is in love with those fleur de sel caramels, which is sensible.

Tep (ktepi), Wednesday, 24 March 2004 03:29 (twenty-one years ago)

i have a headache too.

please send homemade bacon & fleur-de-sel caramels.

s1ocki (slutsky), Wednesday, 24 March 2004 03:46 (twenty-one years ago)

Dude, bacon and caramel. One's smoky and salty and kind of sweet, the other's sweet and kind of salty and kind of burnt ... they're like complements, like a culinary Tomax and Xamot.

I smell a Krispy Kreme Burger sequel.

Tep (ktepi), Wednesday, 24 March 2004 03:52 (twenty-one years ago)

tep, i've been thinking about that krispy kreme burger a lot. i think you really upset me with that one.

s1ocki (slutsky), Wednesday, 24 March 2004 03:53 (twenty-one years ago)

I'm not forcing them on anyone!

And I really thought I had read about them somewhere. I'm still pretty sure I did, I just can't find it. It's not like I said, "You know what? Fuck 'blueberry duck,' I'm going all out, donutburger. Donutgoddamnburger, who's with me?" I just brought it up and everyone else said, "Yeah ... you should eat one."

Tep (ktepi), Wednesday, 24 March 2004 03:58 (twenty-one years ago)

Possibly I have terrible friends.

Tep (ktepi), Wednesday, 24 March 2004 03:58 (twenty-one years ago)

i know you're not forcing it on me! but that image is carven indelibly on my brain. i keep imagining biting into one and then i get nauseous. i can't stop! it is my zohar.

s1ocki (slutsky), Wednesday, 24 March 2004 04:03 (twenty-one years ago)

Thing is, seriously, it's not very noticeable. I mean, the donuts are mostly air, despite the sugar -- the flavors blend together better than the McGriddle does.

(Also: bwahahaha.)

Tep (ktepi), Wednesday, 24 March 2004 04:22 (twenty-one years ago)

The concept is terrifying yet somewhat intriguing.

oops (Oops), Wednesday, 24 March 2004 05:25 (twenty-one years ago)

That's exactly how we ended up at Krispy Kreme.

(Possibly also because there is no Krispy Kreme in Bloomington -- weirdly, and I think I posted about this before, there is no donut place at all other than the very small 'Cresent Donuts' which only has a couple donuts anyway. No Dunkin Donuts, no Krispy Kreme, no Mr Donut, no Hey Man Donuts, no Boom! Bavarian, no Kruller King, no Doughnut Haus, no Swoosh & Sons Intercalary Donut Palace, no Donut Dauphin: The Confectioner in Exile, no Great American Donut, no The Peoples' Donut Factory, no Glorious Donut Revolution, no Donuts Of Thermidor Marching Across The Field, no damn chain donut shops at all.)

(So we had to do it while we could.)

Tep (ktepi), Wednesday, 24 March 2004 14:09 (twenty-one years ago)

You are of course making saffron risotto to go with the osso buco, right Tep? And make sure you eat all the marrow, it's good for you!*

(*may cause bovine spongiform encephalomyelitis)

Markelby (Mark C), Wednesday, 24 March 2004 14:11 (twenty-one years ago)

no, have chips with it, and don't forget the ketchup ;o)

chris (chris), Wednesday, 24 March 2004 14:13 (twenty-one years ago)

The marrow is why I bought the osso bucco to begin with! No worries about that.

I don't know if I'm making saffron risotto, though. I have some good saffron which Penzey's accidentally gave me for free, and I can get arborio rice at the store today, so I might.

Tep (ktepi), Wednesday, 24 March 2004 14:14 (twenty-one years ago)

I think maybe you can get freshish donuts at the quickiemart right near the big intersection near the stadiums, Tep, across the street from an apartment complex, I think it's the intersection of 17th street and IN 37? Mr teeny lived in that apartment complex for a year and I could swear I remember getting coffee and donuts there.

teeny (teeny), Wednesday, 24 March 2004 15:00 (twenty-one years ago)

There are grocery stores that carry Krispy Kreme and stuff, supposedly delivered every morning -- like that? But that's not a donut shop! It's not the same thing.

(Plus the donuts for the Krispyburger were still hot, which I think was key. Maybe.)

(But yeah, I don't in general bemoan the lack of donut shops, I can live with it.)

Tep (ktepi), Wednesday, 24 March 2004 15:02 (twenty-one years ago)

Final verdict on the Fino honey (it's mislabeled as Attiki honey in the initial list because Attiki is both a brand and a type of honey; this brand, but not this type): it's very, very good, but good Tupelo honey remains unrivaled. Part of me is disappointed. Part of me is vindicated.

But Fino honey on a bit of bread with a bit of that double devon cream butter? Damn and goddamn, it's good. It'd probably be better on fresh-made pitas, but I don't see those for sale anywhere here.

Tep (ktepi), Wednesday, 24 March 2004 21:22 (twenty-one years ago)

Gave in to temptation and had the Aero honeycomb. Holy balls. It's better than a Crunchie.

You. Are. Killing. Me.

With honeycomb.

luna (luna.c), Wednesday, 24 March 2004 22:01 (twenty-one years ago)

It's so good! Go get some. Get some for me, too. Cause now I don't have any and I know what I'm missing and it's still Lent, dammit.

It's not exactly Crunchie-like even in its honeycombositousness, though; Crunchies are like chocolate-covered sponge candy, and the honeycomb bits in Aero Honeycomb is more ... I don't know, dense? Coarse? I'm not sure how to explain. The texture is different even apart from the "scattered throughout an Aero" vs "straight-up with chocolate" factor.

Tep (ktepi), Wednesday, 24 March 2004 22:58 (twenty-one years ago)

If I can find them, I'll send some.

luna (luna.c), Wednesday, 24 March 2004 23:08 (twenty-one years ago)

I can send you many fine bacons in return.

Tep (ktepi), Wednesday, 24 March 2004 23:30 (twenty-one years ago)

You're on.

luna (luna.c), Wednesday, 24 March 2004 23:35 (twenty-one years ago)

can i have bacon & aeros too

s1ocki (slutsky), Wednesday, 24 March 2004 23:38 (twenty-one years ago)

Not until you try a Krispyburger.

Tep (ktepi), Wednesday, 24 March 2004 23:39 (twenty-one years ago)

arghgh

s1ocki (slutsky), Wednesday, 24 March 2004 23:40 (twenty-one years ago)

That's the new "not until you finish your vegetables"

oops (Oops), Wednesday, 24 March 2004 23:42 (twenty-one years ago)

Okay, what burger should I use? I'm trying this tonight.

luna (luna.c), Thursday, 25 March 2004 00:10 (twenty-one years ago)

Luna, once you cross this line there's no going back.

oops (Oops), Thursday, 25 March 2004 00:14 (twenty-one years ago)

You don't want McDonald's, that's for sure. You want something thin, with no condiments or other nonsense -- White Castle is out because of their onions -- and something that tastes like meat. Do y'all have Rally's out there? Sonic? Steak and Shake? I don't know this In-n-Out place, but they might do.

Tep (ktepi), Thursday, 25 March 2004 00:25 (twenty-one years ago)

luna please don't!

s1ocki (slutsky), Thursday, 25 March 2004 00:40 (twenty-one years ago)

STAY AWAY FROM HER TEP!!

s1ocki (slutsky), Thursday, 25 March 2004 00:40 (twenty-one years ago)

I'm not forcing it on her!

Tep (ktepi), Thursday, 25 March 2004 00:53 (twenty-one years ago)

you're a pusher!

s1ocki (slutsky), Thursday, 25 March 2004 00:54 (twenty-one years ago)

(In other news:

The osso bucco was osso goodo. Marrow on bread, yay, with a side of roast meat in tomato gravy. Didn't make risotto, just basmati rice.

Next Jungle Jim's aftershock is pork roast marinated in citrus, which is one of my specialties. It'll marinate awhile, I probably won't actually cook it until Saturday.)

She wants it! I'm just helping.

Tep (ktepi), Thursday, 25 March 2004 00:56 (twenty-one years ago)

i can probably get honeycomb aeros here in nyc if people need airlifts.

lauren (laurenp), Thursday, 25 March 2004 01:03 (twenty-one years ago)

!!

s1ocki (slutsky), Thursday, 25 March 2004 01:05 (twenty-one years ago)

An angel just got his spats.

Tep (ktepi), Thursday, 25 March 2004 01:07 (twenty-one years ago)

i thought that said "pants!"

s1ocki (slutsky), Thursday, 25 March 2004 01:07 (twenty-one years ago)

i've never been disappointed yet in foreign candy quests, although having said that honeycomb aeros will no doubt turn out to be the one thing i can't find.

lauren (laurenp), Thursday, 25 March 2004 01:08 (twenty-one years ago)

Dude, angels don't have pants, wtf?

Tep (ktepi), Thursday, 25 March 2004 01:11 (twenty-one years ago)

Lasagna angels!

El Diablo Robotico (Nicole), Thursday, 25 March 2004 01:12 (twenty-one years ago)

::snow:snow angels?

Tep (ktepi), Thursday, 25 March 2004 01:14 (twenty-one years ago)

get ahold of a bottle of "Poire William" from your local hoity-toity winedealer. Trust me.

DMTina (DMTina), Thursday, 25 March 2004 02:01 (twenty-one years ago)

Damn. Unfortunately, a hoity-toity wine dealer is something Bloomington doesn't have. The liquor store has a surprisingly deep selection of wine, but it's still more deep than wide.

Tep (ktepi), Thursday, 25 March 2004 02:04 (twenty-one years ago)

it is not wine. it is distilled essence of Pear.
must have.

DMTina (DMTina), Thursday, 25 March 2004 02:15 (twenty-one years ago)

poire william is excellent. really, really good with bourbon.

lauren (laurenp), Thursday, 25 March 2004 02:17 (twenty-one years ago)

omigod NOOOOOOO!!!! do not dilute the precious pear. oh my heart!

DMTina (DMTina), Thursday, 25 March 2004 02:19 (twenty-one years ago)

Yes, there are rally's... but to find one close to krispy kreme might be a challenge... hmm...

luna (luna.c), Thursday, 25 March 2004 04:34 (twenty-one years ago)

luna stop you still have time!

s1ocki (slutsky), Thursday, 25 March 2004 04:34 (twenty-one years ago)

but aren't you the least bit curious?

luna (luna.c), Thursday, 25 March 2004 04:36 (twenty-one years ago)

what if everyone stopped while they still had time? nothing would ever get done! I must plunge headlong - well, teethlong - into this!

luna (luna.c), Thursday, 25 March 2004 04:37 (twenty-one years ago)

in a dark dark way that i am not ready to confront.

(xp)

s1ocki (slutsky), Thursday, 25 March 2004 04:37 (twenty-one years ago)

Time's a wasting! We could all get hit by comets tomorrow! Sent off to war! Tonight might be the last chance! This sounds more like I'm trying to convince my reluctant girlfriend to fuck me than convincing anyone to try the krispy kreme burger!

luna (luna.c), Thursday, 25 March 2004 04:40 (twenty-one years ago)

i'm afraid i might like it

s1ocki (slutsky), Thursday, 25 March 2004 04:43 (twenty-one years ago)

(that was meant to be in a really tiny font for comic effect but what the hell do i know about html anyway)

s1ocki (slutsky), Thursday, 25 March 2004 04:44 (twenty-one years ago)

I know, I'm afraid too, but sometimes you just have to... well, do it.

luna (luna.c), Thursday, 25 March 2004 04:45 (twenty-one years ago)

I CAN'T STOP THINKING ABOUT IT

s1ocki (slutsky), Thursday, 25 March 2004 04:46 (twenty-one years ago)

HELP ME

s1ocki (slutsky), Thursday, 25 March 2004 04:46 (twenty-one years ago)

Just say... yes.

luna (luna.c), Thursday, 25 March 2004 04:56 (twenty-one years ago)

Go get one! Get two! Start a movement!

Tep (ktepi), Thursday, 25 March 2004 05:03 (twenty-one years ago)

I'm here if you guys need to talk. *hugs*

oops (Oops), Thursday, 25 March 2004 06:51 (twenty-one years ago)

Acquisitions at the multi-ethnic mart nearby: two Danish butters, one with Mediterranean herbs and one "chili lime" (!!)

Tep (ktepi), Thursday, 25 March 2004 22:10 (twenty-one years ago)

Okay, this chili lime butter is so cool and excellent and genius that I'm kind of annoyed I hadn't thought of it myself.

Tep (ktepi), Thursday, 25 March 2004 22:46 (twenty-one years ago)

Brown Sugar Citrus Pork Roast.

1 pork roast. You know those loin roasts covered in seasoning, with the fluid injection to keep them from drying out? Yeah, never buy them. The overbrining makes them spongy to make up for the leanness. You don't even need a loin roast, really, although it's fine if you want one. I usually use a more marbled roast and then trim the fat off when I'm done.

Juice from 2 sweet lemons, 2 sour oranges, 2 blood oranges, 2 honey tangerines.

1 tablespoon or so dried crushed jalapeno. Slightly less of Mexican oregano. About twice as much kosher salt and brown sugar.

Combine juice with dry ingredients. Pour over pork roast in bowl just big enough to hold it all. Add a little water if you need to to keep the pork covered. Brine for 24 hours in the fridge; flip over at some point.

Remove from brine. Pat dry. Take about a tablespoon or two of brown sugar again and pat it all over the roast. Roast at 350 until done -- 2 hours, maybe, depends how big the roast is etc.

Good for sandwiches, good with mustard, good with vinegary things; this could be adapted nicely to pulled-pork barbecue.

Tep (ktepi), Friday, 26 March 2004 00:01 (twenty-one years ago)

I've never fully brined a joint before roasting before, I take it they come out rather moist? may have to try it.

lately I've cooked the same belly pork recipe a couple of times (and need to do it a couple more to get it right), where I crush up garlic and fennel seeds, mix with oil and salt and pepper, then slather all over the flesh side of a lump of belly pork, leave it for just 30 minutes or so and then score the skin, then whack it in a hot oven for 15 minutes before turning it down and roasting for another hour or so - crackling on top, gooey and fennelly on the bottom. Then de-glaze the pan with sherry for a nice thin gravy. I chucked a couple of roughly chopped onions in the bottom for a tastier gravy last time.

It's from the Moro cookbook, which is a real winner for Spanish and middle eastern stuff

chris (chris), Friday, 26 March 2004 10:16 (twenty-one years ago)

It definitely keeps it a little moister, and in this case seasoned it a bit -- the brining seems to do a better job of getting the flavor from the citrus and jalapeno into the whole roast instead of just the surface the way a dry rub (or brief marinade) would.

Wooo, roasted pork belly. I have half of the pork belly I bought, in the freezer (the other half is baconating or baconizing or whichever is the coolest verb for "turning into bacon.") I may try that.

Tep (ktepi), Friday, 26 March 2004 13:25 (twenty-one years ago)

Oh my gosh, sheep's milk butter.

Tep (ktepi), Wednesday, 31 March 2004 00:40 (twenty-one years ago)

black truffle butter!

oh my god those butters are making me to drool.

s1ocki (slutsky), Wednesday, 31 March 2004 00:46 (twenty-one years ago)

Help a Celebrity find a New Job: Hawking Breakfast Cereal

Skottie, Wednesday, 31 March 2004 00:47 (twenty-one years ago)

oh my god those butters are making me to drool.

Tell me about it -- and it's really getting too warm to mail-order butter, I'm sure they'd have to ship it on ice and it'd be ridiculously expensive.

But sheep's milk butter! I remember wondering why there wasn't any, when I got into sheep's milk cheeses, and realizing I never see sheep's milk itself, either, and figured there were reasons for it. Apparently not enough of them.

Those Danish flavored butters I got? Very good, especially since they're barely more expensive than Land O' Lakes etc. But the Double Devon Cream butter is what I'm rationing, cause it's so good I'm gonna miss it when it's gone.

Butter's one of those things I didn't appreciate when I was a kid.

Tep (ktepi), Wednesday, 31 March 2004 00:49 (twenty-one years ago)

me neither! i grew up in a real margarine household!

s1ocki (slutsky), Wednesday, 31 March 2004 00:53 (twenty-one years ago)

We rarely had margarine around, so having Parkay at some friend's house was like the suburban New Hampshire equivalent of adventures in ethnic food [which reminds me, see below] -- same with Wonder bread, since we only ever had wheat, or rye once I discovered I liked that.

Wonder bread with Parkay? Sweet holy cunt, that was something else.

[Below]:

I was reminded the other day that I didn't have even slightly real Chinese food until I was 15 or 16 and went to Philadelphia. All of the Chinese places I'd been to -- both of them, I guess -- in NH made their food by beer-battering chicken, shrimp, pork, or beef, and then pouring sauce over it. I thought that was pretty much the sum total of American-restaurant Chinese food other than fried rice and noodles.

Tep (ktepi), Wednesday, 31 March 2004 01:03 (twenty-one years ago)

ha, tell me about it, i grew up jewish in north america!

s1ocki (slutsky), Wednesday, 31 March 2004 01:59 (twenty-one years ago)

I didn't know you were from New York!

(That might only be funny when my Jewish friend says it.)

Tep (ktepi), Wednesday, 31 March 2004 02:05 (twenty-one years ago)

Track down asafoetida. The most unpleasant name/smell combination (and hardest to find) of any food additive I've yet found. When you fry it the aroma turns garlicky. It's a staple in Indian cuisine.

fields of salmon (fieldsofsalmon), Wednesday, 31 March 2004 19:23 (twenty-one years ago)

Oooh, I'll have to look for that. I've heard of it, but never (knowingly) had it.

Tonight:

http://www.idea-inc.com/~bill/pizza.jpg

Peel apart some fresh mozzarella, and let it sit on paper towels to dry it out. Fresh mozzarella on pizza = soggy pizza. It's like dousing the thing in milk.

Make pizza crust, with added parmesan, herbs, and crushed red peppers. After it's risen for several hours, punch it down, divide as necessary, and press it into a non-stick, oven safe pan -- drizzle a little olive oil into the pan first, even though it's nonstick.

Let the dough rest in the pan for 15 minutes or so.

Spread pizza sauce over the crust, sprinkle with dry mozzarella (or mix; asiago, parmesan, and mozzarella in my case), cover with slices of prosciutto, cover again with slices of pepperoni, and finally top with the fresh mozzarella.

Bake at about 425 for about 15-20 minutes, until fresh mozzarella is golden and pepperoni has at least started to crisp.

Tep (ktepi), Thursday, 1 April 2004 00:27 (twenty-one years ago)

tep rules!

s1ocki (slutsky), Thursday, 1 April 2004 00:49 (twenty-one years ago)

That reminds me -- no it doesn't -- did I ever post my recipe for Monkey?

Monkey.

1 bottle of mezcal, not completely full. Maybe 2/3 full.

1 cup sugar.

Many sliced limes and/or lemons and/or limequats (I'm sure kumquats would work fine; I bought limequats, ate some, and then went, "hm, now what?").

Pour sugar into mezcal. Add enough of the sliced citrus to fill the rest of the bottle. Let sit for a few months.

Tep (ktepi), Thursday, 1 April 2004 01:12 (twenty-one years ago)

This is basically a way to use up less-than-great mezcal.

Tep (ktepi), Thursday, 1 April 2004 01:13 (twenty-one years ago)

so you pour it over the monkey?

s1ocki (slutsky), Thursday, 1 April 2004 01:22 (twenty-one years ago)

Nah, it's just called Monkey cause Mezcal starts with an M, basically. And it's in a green bottle that used to have port in it. Which ... I don't know, I just called it Monkey.

Tep (ktepi), Thursday, 1 April 2004 01:27 (twenty-one years ago)

This weekend: leg of lamb, which I'm going to use the zatar with in some capacity, but I have this sort of half-crazy half-Tep Southern US meets Southern Mediterranean idea for the marinade/rub, with Dr Pepper and honey and kalamata oil and garlic and zatar.

Easter is going to be turkey with rabbit stuffing; chicken would be more Easter-y than turkey, but turkey I want; it isn't stuffed like a turducken with like a whole damn boneless rabbit shoved in the turkey or vice versa, just shredded rabbit in the bread stuffing (the way rabbit is used in the jambalaya at Coop's back home, which is what made me think of it).

Tep (ktepi), Friday, 2 April 2004 14:59 (twenty-one years ago)

monkey sounds good. it also sounds kind of lethal... a bit strong, maybe? i think i'll have to give it a try.

lauren (laurenp), Friday, 2 April 2004 15:29 (twenty-one years ago)

It's about as sweet as a margarita, or a little less so, depending on when you have it (the sugar takes a long time to completely ferment). I got the idea from "bounce," which is a crazy Southern thing that's a cordial for adults or a dessert topping for kids: mix sugar and fruit with hard liquor, let sit for a season. (Even on ice cream, it's pretty potent; but sweet enough that kids wouldn't nosewrinkle. If you wanted to get some kids drunk ...)

Tep (ktepi), Friday, 2 April 2004 15:36 (twenty-one years ago)

michael jackson to thread.

teeny (teeny), Friday, 2 April 2004 15:47 (twenty-one years ago)

i love pseudo-homebrewed stuff. my friends melt down scandinavian salt-crusted licorice, mix it with vodka, and freeze it. though i'm usually a hater of anise/black licorice, i'm drawn to this concoction.

lauren (laurenp), Friday, 2 April 2004 17:07 (twenty-one years ago)

Ooh, that sounds good.

El Diablo Robotico (Nicole), Friday, 2 April 2004 17:10 (twenty-one years ago)

i have a friend who's a nut for homemade liquor, he's always making these crazy herbal infusions with the help of a book from the 19th century he found.

lauren my friend brought back this crazy salt licorice booze (vodka i think) from finland last year! it was insane! also he brought back TAR-flavoured vodka!!

s1ocki (slutsky), Friday, 2 April 2004 18:02 (twenty-one years ago)

Crazy herbal infusions are the best! Except why do so many of them come out tasting like chartreuse? (But Benedictine and Frangelico, damn yum.)

Tar-flavored vodka startles even me. Tar like ... tar? Tar like cigarettes? Tar like "it's been compressed in unix"?

Tep (ktepi), Friday, 2 April 2004 18:03 (twenty-one years ago)

tar like ROAD TAR!!

ps i love chartreuse

s1ocki (slutsky), Friday, 2 April 2004 18:08 (twenty-one years ago)

Also, this isn't related to strange or hard to find food, but I'm a big fan of this Kellogg's Fruit Harvest stuff lately: sweetened (slightly too sweetened, but ok) corn flakes with freeze-dried peaches and strawberries. I'm a sucker for cereal with freeze-dried fruit in it, like those frickin little "bed and breakfast" quasi-pseudo-artisanal cereals that go for like $7 in the little bag but are good so I still buy them sometimes.

ROAD TAR vodka is weird! I'd try it -- I tried turkey soda -- but still, Jesus.

I'm not a big fan of licorice liquor (that took a lot of tries to type); absinthe was a struggle to get through, and then had no real effect.

Tep (ktepi), Friday, 2 April 2004 18:10 (twenty-one years ago)

the licorice homebrew is an attempt to mimic the commercially-available stuff in finland. i'm torn between thinking it's nasty and wanting to drink quarts of it. the other night i tried the spicy variety, which i found likewise alluring/repellent. one thing is for sure, though: stomachache city the day after.

lauren (laurenp), Friday, 2 April 2004 18:11 (twenty-one years ago)

i love anise liquor btw

s1ocki (slutsky), Friday, 2 April 2004 18:27 (twenty-one years ago)

Tried the homemade bacon just now. It doesn't cook up very crispy, unfortunately (although it's crispier than some bacon I've had), but it's very tasty -- and very damn spicy -- and very salty -- and the chipotle powder does seem to make up for it not being smoked. You'd never mistake it for super-smoky smokehouse bacon, but the taste is bacon-y enough that it ... well ... tastes like bacon, you know?

Tep (ktepi), Tuesday, 6 April 2004 22:58 (twenty-one years ago)

Health permitting, I'm going to break into the Hungarian bacon today and have that with a warm catfish sandwich.

Tep (ktepi), Thursday, 8 April 2004 12:58 (twenty-one years ago)

Jesus, Chuck Taggart's got a photo of a soft-shell crawfish poboy up on his blog. Goddamn.

Tep (ktepi), Thursday, 8 April 2004 17:52 (twenty-one years ago)

arhahhjhhhjdrool

s1ocki (slutsky), Thursday, 8 April 2004 17:54 (twenty-one years ago)

i think i'm literally panting

s1ocki (slutsky), Thursday, 8 April 2004 17:54 (twenty-one years ago)

Six years in New Orleans and I never saw one. Soft-shell crab is difficult enough, and there's an established demand for it, so I guess soft-shell crawfish is something you wouldn't find retail. But damn!

Tep (ktepi), Thursday, 8 April 2004 17:56 (twenty-one years ago)

I feel like a wolf wearing a bib who is banging his cutlery on the table.

s1ocki (slutsky), Thursday, 8 April 2004 17:58 (twenty-one years ago)

i am too hungry to properly construct sentences right now.

s1ocki (slutsky), Thursday, 8 April 2004 17:58 (twenty-one years ago)

So I used to make stewed rabbit every Easter, because sometimes I'm a little bit of a smartass, but I got out of the habit (of rabbit, dagnabbit) partly because it's not a very forgiving meat and partly because I moved to Louisiana, where rabbit's a little different, and started dating, and then living with, a chick who didn't like Louisiana rabbit.

But now I've gotten that urge to make rabbit in my head, and naturally, what do I discover? That I've moved to a place where rabbit is worth its damn weight in gold. $20 I paid for rabbit yesterday! $6.99 a pound! That's on the bone, mind you, not like boneless rabbit medallions or some damn thing. By way of comparison -- since I know slutsky the Canadian reads this thread -- that's twice the per-pound price of duck or goose, only slightly less expensive than boneless cuts of ostrich, comparable to a good cut of steak (I like strip and rib-eye, but that's neither here nor there). And there's a lot of bone there! In Louisiana, rabbit was only a little more expensive than chicken. Maybe $2 a pound, $3 if you're at a crappy grocery.

Sigh.

Once I decide to do something like this, I pretty much do it, and I'm not actually using all the rabbit for the Easter turkey: today I'll have a bbq rabbit sandwich, but boy it's going to be an expensive sandwich.

The turkey, for its part, is currently brining with blood oranges and Mexican oregano, because I thought maybe this would be an interesting way to take advantage of blood oranges being at the end of their season -- still being sold, but not really worthwhile anymore.

Tep (ktepi), Friday, 9 April 2004 14:26 (twenty-one years ago)

you know, i've never really gotten into eating rabbit. when i was in the canary islands in february i had some rabbit ragout--rabbit being the only game there, really--and i just found it a little stringy. actually, the first time i'd ever had rabbit was in the canary islands too, over 10 years ago! but yeah, i can't really get into the texture, too muscular and tough.

s1ocki (slutsky), Friday, 9 April 2004 14:33 (twenty-one years ago)

It's a finicky meat, and yeah, it can turn tough real fast; I'm going to try braising it and then pulling it like pork, so it'll be small shreds. Some will go in sandwiches, some is going in the stuffing -- they use it like that in the jambalaya at my favorite place for jambalaya, and it's not tough at all, but it's also shredded so small you'd never notice if it was. (But you do notice something, a non-chicken-like texture and meaty flavor.)

But yeah, it's not something I'd make often, which is probably good given the price.

Tep (ktepi), Friday, 9 April 2004 14:44 (twenty-one years ago)

Also: this rabbit came with giblets, which is somewhat exciting but also meant, hey, you charged me $6.99 for the giblets too, Binky.

Tep (ktepi), Friday, 9 April 2004 14:45 (twenty-one years ago)

the rabbit kidneys chopped up fine make a great thickening agent if you slow cook the rabbit in either red wine, or even better, cider.

chris (chris), Friday, 9 April 2004 16:08 (twenty-one years ago)

Already braising: it's okay, though, I don't need anything thickened since I'm going to be adding the meat to the turkey stuffing. That's a good idea, though. (I'll probably add the kidneys to the stuffing, or gravy...)

Tep (ktepi), Friday, 9 April 2004 16:17 (twenty-one years ago)

they're tasty little buggers (although seem to have a lot more fat proportionately than most kiddleys)

chris (chris), Friday, 9 April 2004 16:19 (twenty-one years ago)

xpost there was an extensive feature in Readymade re: homemade/infused likker

Donna Brown (Donna Brown), Friday, 9 April 2004 16:21 (twenty-one years ago)

Slowest xpost ever!

Hm, maybe I'll just have the rabbit kidneys by themselves or in dirty rice.

(Or make kidney liquor.)

Tep (ktepi), Friday, 9 April 2004 16:24 (twenty-one years ago)

If I wasn't guerilla-posting from work I would look for the year+ xpost thread.

VengaDan Perry (Dan Perry), Friday, 9 April 2004 16:51 (twenty-one years ago)

A year-delayed xpost frightens me!

I just bought Transylvanian buffalo cheese for a friend's birthday. I am envious.

Tep (ktepi), Friday, 9 April 2004 17:58 (twenty-one years ago)

transylvanian buffalos!

s1ocki (slutsky), Friday, 9 April 2004 18:01 (twenty-one years ago)

This is what I'm saying!

Tep (ktepi), Friday, 9 April 2004 18:03 (twenty-one years ago)

http://www.idea-inc.com/~bill/udklp.jpg
http://www.idea-inc.com/~bill/udklp2.jpg

Upside-Down Key Lime Pie

Tep (ktepi), Sunday, 11 April 2004 19:05 (twenty-one years ago)

Papaya Duck.

This is one of those fairly simple dishes that benefits from the combination of ingredients -- complementary without being trite. The papaya and honey get their sweet on, the bacon and soy sauce get their smokiness on, and both pairs work great with duck.

2 servings of duck, for instance 2 leg quarters on the bone, or one breast. Cut into several pieces, leaving on the bone (unless you're using a boneless breast, which should be fine). I cut duck quarters into four pieces each: this isn't strictly necessary if you don't have a cleaver.

2-3 slices of thick-cut smoked bacon. I have a small slab of smoked Hungarian bacon, I've been using that.

1 cup of fresh papaya, coarsely chopped.

1/4 sweet onion, sliced.

1 serrano chile, sliced thinly. Depending on your chile, this makes for a dish I'd call a 5 on the 1-10 scale -- too spicy for people who don't like spicy food, and near the top end for people who like it "spicy, but not too spicy."

1-2 tbsp honey. I didn't measure, but that sounds right.

An equal amount of soy sauce.


Precook the duck your favorite way, for getting the fat out: I like to steam it for 30 minutes or so (it's very forgiving if you want to steam it longer than that), after having pricked or sliced the skin, salted it, and let it sit for an hour to leech some of the fat to the surface. When I make duck, I usually know ahead of time I'm going to do so -- so this is a method that takes time, but very little effort.

Preheat the oven to 425, and put the duck in for 5 minutes when the oven is good and hot -- use a nonstick oven-safe pan if possible. After 5 minutes, add the bacon. After another 5 minutes, add the papaya, onion, and serrano, and cook for 7 minutes.

The duck and bacon should be crispy now, and the vegetables cooked but not thoroughly so. Put the pan on the stove at a medium heat, turn off the oven, and add the honey and soy sauce. Cook, stirring constantly, until the sauce has reduced enough that it sticks to everything and leaves very little in the pan (this won't take long, especially if the pan is still hot from the oven).

Tep (ktepi), Saturday, 24 April 2004 17:37 (twenty-one years ago)

An obvious variation would be to add a little tamarind concentrate with the soy sauce and honey, which I'm sort of kicking myself for not doing, but hell, I got more duck in the freezer.

I'm pretty sure this steaming-roasting-stove combo is the way they make duck at my favorite place to eat duck other than my own kitchen, a Thai place in Cincinnati. The texture comes out exactly the same way, and it holds the sauce similarly.

Tep (ktepi), Saturday, 24 April 2004 17:47 (twenty-one years ago)

I mean to mention this before Tep, A British classic you have to try

Matt (Matt), Saturday, 24 April 2004 21:21 (twenty-one years ago)

Oh gosh, I have all those ingredients, even, although the shrimp I have are tiger shrimp, but that probably wouldn't make any difference (I haven't had brown shrimp, but I assume they're not that different and are just a shrimp that's more local to the UK).

Tep (ktepi), Saturday, 24 April 2004 21:25 (twenty-one years ago)

They need to be pretty small for it to work, but if you chopped up the tiger prawns it would probably be all good (brown shrimps are about 15mm long at their largest)

Matt (Matt), Saturday, 24 April 2004 21:27 (twenty-one years ago)

Tep, tep, tep I have found ye a new food. It is humble, mundane but really really good.
Stay your skepticism. Steel Cut Oatmeal. No really, it is not as boring as you think, and nothing like Quaker Oats. I was suspicious, then a friend forced me to try it, and it was heavenly.

It's nutty and has a texture (eg not like glue like Quaker Oats) and is heavenly with brown sugar. This is a food I would normally not even consider a food outside of baking uses, but dammit the steel-cut oats are GOOD! Seek them!

Orbit (Orbit), Sunday, 25 April 2004 17:34 (twenty-one years ago)

it is lovely, steel-cut oats are a standard comfort food for me, especially if I've done something evil to my stomach and need something simple & nutritious.

teeny (teeny), Sunday, 25 April 2004 17:59 (twenty-one years ago)

Are those the oats that come in the coffee can type container? (I guess different brands would be packaged differently, this is not nec'ly a sensical question.)

Havne't made the potted shrimp yet, cause I had a lot of fresh chicken and ground beef I'd just bought, but it's in my mental hopper.

Tep (ktepi), Sunday, 25 April 2004 20:48 (twenty-one years ago)

i had cardamom-spiced iranian hot chocolate today, it was heavenly.

s1ocki (slutsky), Sunday, 25 April 2004 21:26 (twenty-one years ago)

Here ya go Tep, from my kitchen to yours!

Orbit (Orbit), Monday, 26 April 2004 01:19 (twenty-one years ago)

Those are the ones! I've had those once; my aunt keeps them in the house (maybe because her son-in-law is Irish; I dunno). It was a ways ago now, so I don't remember what I thought beyond liking em.

Tep (ktepi), Monday, 26 April 2004 01:33 (twenty-one years ago)

Wow, słocki, that sounds terrific. I've been drinking MarieBelle's spicy chocolate, made with nutmeg and chipotle, both hot and cold.

Paul Eater (eater), Monday, 26 April 2004 03:00 (twenty-one years ago)

Did I ever post about my chocolate experiments? I went through two phases of em a couple months ago -- first spicy chocolate (especially when combined with tequila, too), then chocolate and blueberries. I probably did.

(I just realized that's the exception to what I was saying about tequila elsethread, in terms of liking it with citrus if it isn't straight: spice and/or chocolate is also great. Christmas Eve, I went through a bar of very dark chocolate by dipping it, square by square, into a shot glass of tequila and thence into a mix of kosher salt and ground Red Amazon chile.)

Tep (ktepi), Monday, 26 April 2004 03:05 (twenty-one years ago)

wait. what? i am afraid to even try this!

Orbit (Orbit), Monday, 26 April 2004 03:05 (twenty-one years ago)

It's good! Red Amazon chile is really, really spicy (the label says it's the same chile as the Tabasco pepper; whether it is or not, it tastes like hotter Tabasco sauce without the vinegar, more or less), but cayenne would work too. You only get a bit, depending on how you mix the salt. But there's something about the "ow pain on my tongue" + "oh there are flakes of salt on my tongue now" + tequila and chocolate which is just great.

Tep (ktepi), Monday, 26 April 2004 03:08 (twenty-one years ago)

did i ever tell you guys about the colombian restaurant i reviewed where they gave you a stick of mozzarella to dip into the spicy hot chocolate?

s1ocki (slutsky), Monday, 26 April 2004 03:54 (twenty-one years ago)

anyway, it wasn't as good as the stuff i had today. there were two options--the bol du chocolat chaud and the "chocolatière," and we couldn't figure out the diff. so i ordered the latter and it was a huge ceramic kettle of the stuff!

s1ocki (slutsky), Monday, 26 April 2004 03:55 (twenty-one years ago)

I must go to Colombia!

The spiced hot chocolate sounds good too, but hot chocolate + cheese (like fried mozzarella, or just plain cheese?) demands I try it.

Tep (ktepi), Monday, 26 April 2004 04:01 (twenty-one years ago)

it was pretty intriguing! and a strangely subtle mix

s1ocki (slutsky), Monday, 26 April 2004 04:04 (twenty-one years ago)

Speaking of which, scroll down to the Chocolate Royale cheese on this page. igourmet is quickly becoming my favorite place I haven't actually bought anything for myself from (it's where I got the Transylvanian buffalo cheese, which went over very well).

Tep (ktepi), Monday, 26 April 2004 12:49 (twenty-one years ago)

Dinner tonight: Platonic red snapper, and citrus-marinated sea scallops with spicy hickory sauce.

slutsky, you live in the wilds of Canada, do they have hickory and other non-maple sap syrups up there? (I know you can get birch syrup in Alaska, which fascinates me; imagine birch flavored ice cream, or birch frosting on spice cake, or a birch-based barbecue sauce, breaking the mesquite/hickory hegemony!)

Tep (ktepi), Sunday, 2 May 2004 00:41 (twenty-one years ago)

i've never seen those syrups before, tep. but i will talk about some other interesting stuff, like SPRUCE BEER! which is a very popular (well, not very popular, let's say very...celebrated?) drink which is exactly as it sounds--like ginger beer made with spruce sap. or spruce something! anyway, it is apparently very dangerous to make and has caused quite a few explosions!

this has been the cabane à sucre season, and lots of people i know have gone out to these cabins in the woods where they eat an incredible amount of lard drizzled with maple syrup, then gone out into the snow and drizzled the syrup onto the snow and eaten said snow. after all the eating and the boozing i imagine they either barf or fight, or make love. or all three, of course.

s1ocki (slutsky), Sunday, 2 May 2004 00:45 (twenty-one years ago)

Spruce beer is great -- I've had it once, as well as a root beer which used both spruce extract and wintergreen, which was sort of like the soda equivalent of marzipan: food shaped to look like something it wasn't. Had no idea it was dangerous, though, geez.

I used to chew spruce sap when I was a kid, from the blue spruce trees on our property -- and I tried to get my parents to make spruce syrup, since we made maple syrup, but alas, no luck.

Tep (ktepi), Sunday, 2 May 2004 00:47 (twenty-one years ago)

i think when it's the fermentation phase (or something phase, as it's not alcoholic) it's gotta be refrigerated or kaboom. apparently the place most famous for it downtown once had a blackout in the middle of the night and the walk-in fridge blew up!

s1ocki (slutsky), Sunday, 2 May 2004 00:51 (twenty-one years ago)

Okay, a spruce beer explosion blackout pretty much trumps a molasses flood. Sorry, Boston.

Tep (ktepi), Sunday, 2 May 2004 01:05 (twenty-one years ago)

Going back to the thread-starting Jungle Jim's next month, a little bit ahead of my birthday. Going to try to get the butcher to sell me duck skin, or at least chicken skin, by itself, so I can make a galantine. (Well, not a traditional galantine since those are served in aspic, I think, but a thing I'll call a galantine.) And definitely lots more of that Hungarian bacon and Orangina rouge.

Tep (ktepi), Tuesday, 4 May 2004 01:07 (twenty-one years ago)

Oh my golly, D'artagnan is selling ramps. I've always wanted to try those.

Tep (ktepi), Tuesday, 4 May 2004 20:30 (twenty-one years ago)

Coffee Milk-the official state drink of Rhode Island (DOOD!). It's like chocolate milk make with coffee flavored syrup instead of chocolate syrup. It may not be widely available outside of the ocean state, but if you can get it, try the Autocrat brand.

Sengai, Tuesday, 4 May 2004 20:48 (twenty-one years ago)

I've had that! Not Autocrat ... I don't remember the brand now except that it had a green cap or wrapper. But they carried it at Dairy Mart (a convenience store chain, not sure if they have them in RI; they're like Cumberland Farms, which they probably do have) when I lived in Massachusetts. Good stuff, way cheaper than frappuccinos.

Tep (ktepi), Tuesday, 4 May 2004 20:52 (twenty-one years ago)

I like to make my own coffee milk with...Camp!

http://www.sybertooth.com/camp/camp2.jpg

Liz :x (Liz :x), Wednesday, 5 May 2004 09:12 (twenty-one years ago)

but kama, Tep, have you ever had kama?

t\'\'t (t\'\'t), Wednesday, 5 May 2004 09:16 (twenty-one years ago)

(hold yer belated sutra jokes, here goes)

kama : "dish prepared from a mixture of rye-, oat-, barley and peasemeal by mixing it with clabbered milk"
- it sayeth in Paul F. Saagpakk's Estonian-English Dictionary, 1992

t\'\'t (t\'\'t), Wednesday, 5 May 2004 09:28 (twenty-one years ago)

That I have not had! What, like to the consistency of oatmeal?

Tep (ktepi), Wednesday, 5 May 2004 12:32 (twenty-one years ago)

On the subject of oats....upthread somebody mentioned Staffordshire Oatcakes - THOSE are not oatcakes!!

http://www.greatbritishkitchen.co.uk/images/staffordshireoatcakes.gif

These are oatcakes....

http://www.undiscoveredscotland.co.uk/usrecipes/oatcakes/images/oatcakes-400.jpg

Oh yeah and Tep, Fry's Orange Creme is luverly but Five Centres was the best, they don't make them anymore ;0(

smee (smee), Wednesday, 5 May 2004 12:36 (twenty-one years ago)

Those oatcakes look good!

So -- I was looking for champagne-filled chocolates, and found them, but check it out -- scroll down to "chocolate capri log," semi-sweet chocolate goat cheese!

Tep (ktepi), Thursday, 6 May 2004 01:43 (twenty-one years ago)

champagne-filled chocolates!! look at mr. rockefeller over here!

s1ocki (slutsky), Thursday, 6 May 2004 02:09 (twenty-one years ago)

Ha, you misread the name tag, it says "Mr Forgot To Buy A Mother's Day Present."

Tep (ktepi), Thursday, 6 May 2004 02:13 (twenty-one years ago)

four weeks pass...
Going back Saturday. Since the friends we usually go with are moving in a couple weeks, and Lindsey hates driving further than Indianapolis or so, I have no idea when I'll next be able to go, so have just read through this thread to jog my memory to make a list.

That's the only problem with Jungle Jim's: they have so much stuff that it's easy to overlook things, particularly since some sections are categorized horizontally (i.e. according to context/culture/cuisine) instead of vertically (according to content): I'm grateful for the vertically-categorized produce section, so I don't have to hop back and forth between Thailand, Cuba, and Texas, just to put a side dish together. The rice is all in one place, too; but other than that, since I like to play both in and out of tradition, I have to force everyone to go up and down each aisle with me -- as much as I'm not crazy about French food in general, that's where I'll find the Nicoise olives, and the four spice blend, if I didn't have it already.

See, if offline stores were like the internet, you could just elect to recategorize the way you browse: it would be interesting to grocery-shop alphabetically or in ascending order of price or sell-by date.

And yeah, I'm the kind of person who will be frustrated with myself a couple months from now if I end up forgetting to buy pork belly or frog legs, because I'll think of some recipe involving them. (Frog legs, I'm convinced, would make excellent barbecue, along the lines of pulled pork.)

It's also interesting, though, to look at my list and realize the things I want to be absolutely sure to get, in light of the uncertainty of a return trip: honey mints, Orangina Rouge, the aforementioned frog & pig, mostarda, blood sausage, and that hot-smoked Hungarian bacon that was one of the best and most interesting foods I've ever had; and the way that my anticipation of which fresh, perishable ingredients I'll return with will dictate my cooking for next week: I'll have to make more sausage-potato soup since I want to get sorrel; and if I bring back as much citrus as I have in the past, that'll mean puerco asado; and I'm tempted, now that it's more seasonal and my New Orleans hormones are itching for it, to get some good seafood; so there we go, that's most of a week right there, with probably some odd lunch experiments to fill it out.

(Yes, I have a blog for this, I know; but at this point, if you aren't interested in me talking about food, you aren't reading this thread. And it's a good time for last-minute suggestions, since I'm keeping the list next to me today in case I think of anything.)

Tep (ktepi), Thursday, 3 June 2004 13:51 (twenty-one years ago)

I love Jungle Jims! Try one of the Olive Oils from the ENTIRE aisle of them. mushroomssss...venison jerky...Check the seafood carefully, though. Almost bought an entire bag of mussels and then realized they were all open. How about a bottle of Hungarian wine to go with your bacon?

Jocelyn (Jocelyn), Thursday, 3 June 2004 14:19 (twenty-one years ago)

Someone else who's been to Jungle Jim's! Excellent.

The seafood has looked nice in the past, I just wasn't confident of the season (I'm still suspicious of seafood out here in landlocked country) or my ability to bring it home. I have a good, sturdy, well-insulated, and enormous cooler now, and it's a good season for seafood. So I'll at least take a look.

The olive oils have always looked nice -- although usually in that aisle I'm distracted by the hugely expensive balsamic vinegars :)

And they have that new wine section now, which should be easier to navigate than the old one. I bought a bottle of sweet Tokaji last time, but haven't tried it yet.

Tep (ktepi), Thursday, 3 June 2004 14:33 (twenty-one years ago)

Oh, and re: the mention of coffee milk upthread: I drank a bunch of it while I was visiting my mother in New Hampshire, partly because she doesn't have anything caffeinated in the house and I wasn't there long enough to warrant buying real coffee. (I'm sure the caffeine content of coffee milk is negligible and I would have been just as well off doing shots of Hershey's, but hey, it's tasty stuff.)

Tep (ktepi), Thursday, 3 June 2004 14:35 (twenty-one years ago)

I think it was just bad seafood season for the midwest-(March perhaps?) I'm sure the fish and everything is good right now. Sigh. I haven't been to the Jungle in over two years now...

Jocelyn (Jocelyn), Thursday, 3 June 2004 14:54 (twenty-one years ago)

Go! (If you're near.) They've expanded it hugely: a new cheese/deli/sushi section, a new wine section, a Starbuck's, Maggie Moo's ice cream, a new olive bar ... all of this since the last time I was there (March-ish, yep).

Tep (ktepi), Thursday, 3 June 2004 14:58 (twenty-one years ago)

hey tep, how do you pronounce 'sriracha'?

oops (Oops), Thursday, 3 June 2004 18:34 (twenty-one years ago)

My guess would be "shree-racha." (with both of those a's being short a's)

NA (Nick A.), Thursday, 3 June 2004 18:40 (twenty-one years ago)

I say "sir AHCH ah," and ignore the other r, because that's how it was pronounced (or at least how it sounded) when I asked "hey, what's this stuff, anyway?" at Lucky Cheng's. But I'm not sure that's right. (xpost with Nick, it probably isn't right.)

Tep (ktepi), Thursday, 3 June 2004 18:41 (twenty-one years ago)

Usually, whenever I've seen the 'sri' combo, it's pronounced 'shree.' But I'm not even sure what language that name is from, so what do I know. If it's Chinese, one of the main Chinese dialects (I can't remember if it's Cantonese or Mandarin) has a lot of "sh" sounds in it, thus further supporting my hypothesis.

NA (Nick A.), Thursday, 3 June 2004 18:44 (twenty-one years ago)

It's a town in Thailand, no?

oops (Oops), Thursday, 3 June 2004 18:48 (twenty-one years ago)

I am currently making the recipe for pigs' ears Chris posted way above (although I added a buttload of SHREE RACHA -- I'm trying to train myself to that -- to the stock). I took a little bite of one, and man, so far, pretty fucking good.

Tep (ktepi), Friday, 4 June 2004 16:20 (twenty-one years ago)

Oh my God these are good! I'm having em with a little ketchup and a little sweet-hot mustard, to dip them in. They really soaked up the sriracha, too; I'm wondering about simmering them in beer, what that would do, or if they'd take in too much of the beer taste.

Tep (ktepi), Friday, 4 June 2004 17:08 (twenty-one years ago)

http://www.srirachaport.com/

oops (Oops), Friday, 4 June 2004 17:12 (twenty-one years ago)

Oh man, I have got to go there.

Tep (ktepi), Friday, 4 June 2004 17:18 (twenty-one years ago)

I have no knowledge of Thai language, and therefore no idea of there would be a "shree" in there.

oops (Oops), Friday, 4 June 2004 17:19 (twenty-one years ago)

Dude. Chocolate bars with: Fontina; coffee-marinated plums and caramelized bacon; cranberry and thyme; etc.

Tep (ktepi), Thursday, 17 June 2004 21:29 (twenty-one years ago)

Yum.
I discovered the simple joy of Pomegranite juice yseterday.

Orbit (Orbit), Thursday, 17 June 2004 21:32 (twenty-one years ago)

hey, can you get breadfruit in the lower 48?

teeny (teeny), Thursday, 17 June 2004 21:33 (twenty-one years ago)

Pomegranate juice is great in margaritas or reduced with poultry/pork.

Breadfruit is starchy enough that it should be more travel-friendly than most tropical fruits, I think, but I've never seen it (come to think of it, I don't even remember seeing it dried).

Tep (ktepi), Thursday, 17 June 2004 21:38 (twenty-one years ago)

god i love this thread!

s1ocki (slutsky), Thursday, 17 June 2004 21:41 (twenty-one years ago)

I thought of you when I saw the chocolate! Chocolate with BACON! I mean, geez. That's like something I would make up as a counter-example. ("At least it's not...")

Tep (ktepi), Thursday, 17 June 2004 21:42 (twenty-one years ago)

i had a deep-fried kitkat bar the other week!

s1ocki (slutsky), Thursday, 17 June 2004 21:43 (twenty-one years ago)

Holy crap, why didn't you post about it?

(Oh: speaking of this thread, I've finally had Scotch eggs. They tasted a whole lot like Egg McMuffins, but better.)

Tep (ktepi), Thursday, 17 June 2004 21:44 (twenty-one years ago)

(AND I now have a copy of The Whole Beast by Fergus Henderson, which was finally published in the States a couple months ago.)

Tep (ktepi), Thursday, 17 June 2004 21:45 (twenty-one years ago)

i've been curious to try that pomegranate juice but it's really expensive.

oops (Oops), Thursday, 17 June 2004 21:48 (twenty-one years ago)

i actually had it in scotland! it was weird and somewhat amazing!

(xp)

s1ocki (slutsky), Thursday, 17 June 2004 21:48 (twenty-one years ago)

My God, look at all the bacon!

Tep (ktepi), Friday, 18 June 2004 01:43 (twenty-one years ago)

's totally a lot of pig.

x Jeremy (Atila the Honeybun), Friday, 18 June 2004 01:47 (twenty-one years ago)

The best thing about living in Indiana is that it's totally changed how I see bacon. Cinnamon bacon! Gosh.

Tep (ktepi), Friday, 18 June 2004 01:52 (twenty-one years ago)

Hey, I made my own butter, by the way. How cool is that? I'm going to make some more, cause I have this idea for a sort of ice cream like thing that will need a better name than "frozen butter" or "frozen frosting," even though that's what it pretty much is. (Working title: "thump.")

Tep (ktepi), Friday, 25 June 2004 00:33 (twenty-one years ago)

awesome! you should call it "nobody does it butter"

s1ocki (slutsky), Friday, 25 June 2004 06:09 (twenty-one years ago)

or "the butter tears of petra von kant"

s1ocki (slutsky), Friday, 25 June 2004 06:09 (twenty-one years ago)

or "we are in the butter but we are looking at the stars"

s1ocki (slutsky), Friday, 25 June 2004 06:10 (twenty-one years ago)

or "wow and butter"

s1ocki (slutsky), Friday, 25 June 2004 06:11 (twenty-one years ago)

or "anything you can do, i can do butter"

s1ocki (slutsky), Friday, 25 June 2004 06:12 (twenty-one years ago)

or "hello buddah, hello faddah"

s1ocki (slutsky), Friday, 25 June 2004 06:23 (twenty-one years ago)

Duuuude.

Tep (ktepi), Friday, 25 June 2004 12:35 (twenty-one years ago)

Tep, as mentioned on the other thread, the ox heart sandwiches were great from ASt John, it's weird I was epectiing something a lot more .... offally, but no, as it quickly dawned on us, the heart is a muscle like any other and so you get this lovely grainy tender meat (theirs was barbecued simply with rosemay and olive olive oil, salt and pepper - very simple but delicious)

another book to look out for = Meat by Hugh Fearnley Whittingstall - 500 pages of nummy goodness

chris (chris), Friday, 25 June 2004 12:41 (twenty-one years ago)

tep, you may have guessed i was drunk when i wrote all that.

s1ocki (slutsky), Friday, 25 June 2004 14:20 (twenty-one years ago)

Ox heart sounds so good! Obviously I have to go to St John sometime. Luckily, I think I can depend on it being there for awhile.

And I didn't guess the drunkennness, but that's all right :) In the freezer right now is the second batch of butter, mixed in with sugar, lime juice, heavy cream, and just a little fleur de sel. I have no idea if this'll be any good or not; right now it tastes a little like key lime pie, of course, but every couple bites you get a flake of salt, like with a margarita.

Tep (ktepi), Friday, 25 June 2004 14:30 (twenty-one years ago)

nothing like that little spike of saltiness mixed in with something sweet!

s1ocki (slutsky), Friday, 25 June 2004 14:51 (twenty-one years ago)

I have a new favourite ingredient. Hot smoked Paprika. My God it's soooo good (add with lemon to fish and chickpea stews for insanely good results).

Matt (Matt), Friday, 25 June 2004 15:03 (twenty-one years ago)

Haha, just read a bit upthread. Chris it's the Moro cookbook which got me into the smoked paprika.

Matt (Matt), Friday, 25 June 2004 15:04 (twenty-one years ago)

Yes yes hot smoked paprika! Use it in your traditional paprika dishes and it turns them on their heads. I make stroganoff with it now and it tastes really unusual with the red wine.

jocelyn (Jocelyn), Friday, 25 June 2004 15:11 (twenty-one years ago)

Yes! Smoked paprika is excellent. The Spanish Table (http://www.spanishtable.com probably) sells a three-pack I have, of smoked hot, smoked sweet, and smoked bittersweet. If it has any disadvantage, it's only that if you want to use it, you want to be sure that you want it to be a focus, not just an ingredient. It's pretty pronounced. (Nine times out of ten, I think this is a good thing; the only exceptions for me are jambalaya and gumbo, where I don't want paprika to stand out from the other traditional Cajun seasonings.)

Smoked paprika + mustard + molasses (or any other sweetener, I'd reckon) is one of those easily sauces for ribs and whatnot, too.

The woman at the Spanish Table who handled my order -- I was getting blood sausage too, and there was this whole shipping thing to wrangle -- told me her husband uses it as incense, of all things. The sweet, I'd assume, not the hot.

Tep (ktepi), Friday, 25 June 2004 15:29 (twenty-one years ago)

I just like to infiltrate my Magyar food with Iberian Flavor. And now I know where to order it online, thanks Tep. It's really good in omelettes too. When you're slightly hungover.

jocelyn (Jocelyn), Friday, 25 June 2004 15:35 (twenty-one years ago)

I just used some smoked paprika along with honey, soy and hot sauce for some wings. We had a trip to Borough and so have a whole bundle of spanish stuff for tonight (morcilla and soft chorizo) along with home made pork pie (which I may have to put photos of up somewhere) and pimentos de padron (1 in 10 is a hot bombshell) and some stinky cheese that comes in a dish as it's so runn.

chris (chris), Saturday, 26 June 2004 13:50 (twenty-one years ago)

Oh, my gosh. You should definitely put photos of the pork pie up. I've been meaning to try making one.

Tep (ktepi), Saturday, 26 June 2004 14:40 (twenty-one years ago)

(I'm almost definitely making feijoada later this summer when some friends visit, but I'm going to try to be sneaky and not tell them it has feet and tails and ears in it.)

Tep (ktepi), Saturday, 26 June 2004 14:40 (twenty-one years ago)

we left the pork pie out all night due to intense drunkenness, however it's still good for breakfast ;o)

it will get posted though, probably on pumpkin as soon as I sign up for an account that gives me picturehosting

chris (chris), Sunday, 27 June 2004 08:15 (twenty-one years ago)

Tep, let us discuss Fleur de sel. I was so prepared to love it. But I still prefer Kosher salt for cooking. Am I missing something? Is one better for something and the other better for others?

Orbit (Orbit), Sunday, 27 June 2004 08:40 (twenty-one years ago)

I think that good sea salt is great on top of something because you more immediately experience the things that make it good: the flakiness, the subtle flavor. I like sea salt on eggs and on olive-oil bruchetta especially. I end up using my fancy sea salt on things like that and a cheaper sea salt for other purposes.

teeny (teeny), Sunday, 27 June 2004 14:12 (twenty-one years ago)

also: Salt

teeny (teeny), Sunday, 27 June 2004 14:13 (twenty-one years ago)

Yeah, it's purely a textural thing for me. Kosher salt for cooking and normal table salt usage; fleur de sel as a condiment on a limited number of things (French fries and anything battered and fried -- which in this kitchen means fried green tomatoes and chicken-fried steak) and in a few instances where you want a salt that won't dissolve, like on the crust of a steak.

(Oh, and it's really good in caramels, but I don't know why.)

Most other differences are imaginary and invisible to taste tests.

Tep (ktepi), Sunday, 27 June 2004 15:53 (twenty-one years ago)

(And re: seasoned salt blends, those are a terrible thing to have in most kitchens, particularly if you only have one of them; their appeal might begin with flavor, but it grows from familiarity: they create a taste of "home," and in so doing make everything taste the same. It's the culinary equivalent of owning thirty copies of the same suit: there are practical aspects to it, but only if cooking is something you have no interest in. Meta-ingredients need to be kept in their place.)

A good analogy for fleur de sel might be to balsamic vinegar: it has interesting characteristics of its own, but would be wasted if used as a replacement for ordinary vinegar, and is nearly always best when used sparingly and after cooking.

(The supermarket balsamic which has taken over the restaurants doesn't have a fleur de sel equivalent, granted.)

Tep (ktepi), Sunday, 27 June 2004 15:58 (twenty-one years ago)

try Maldon sea salt more - really it's great, especially when you get the hyowge flakes

chris (chris), Monday, 28 June 2004 07:42 (twenty-one years ago)

Again, I concur.

Matt (Matt), Monday, 28 June 2004 07:44 (twenty-one years ago)

Dude, steak sandwich with green beans and avocado. I was skeptical, but it's really great.

Dinner's my coq au vin (I think it was in last year's cookbook; baked instead of stewed, crispy instead of wet), and later this week I'm going to try to combine New Orleans barbecue shrimp (which isn't barbecued; it's shrimp with butter, Tabasco, and Worcestershire) with shrimp toast. It's a fucking around kind of week.

Tep (ktepi), Monday, 28 June 2004 17:50 (twenty-one years ago)

six months pass...
Did I really start this thread less than a year ago? That means I lived here for months before going to Jungle Jim's.

This thread is like my ILE blog, and/or a message in a bottle where I can talk to slutsky. So, highlights (for children):

1: I AM GOING TO JUNGLE JIM'S THIS WEEKEND! Despite Cincinnati-area flooding. Friends are bringing me odd snacks and Walker's crisps from China, so I can skip the snacky stuff at JJ and focus on other exotica. I'm out of ghee, want to examine the anchovies, and will definitely get marmite (or is marmite capitalized?) and unfiltered sake.

2: I was a little bit kicked out of graduate school, so grocery shopping in another city will be a good distraction.

3: And then I'm going to New Orleans! Pistolettes! Crab! Jambalaya at Coop's!

By the way, re: smoked paprika above, it's very good on homemade French fries (especially with a little grated-on-a-cheese-grater unsweetened chocolate, an ingredient I am playing with lately and like with anything salty).

Tep (ktepi), Wednesday, 12 January 2005 22:26 (twenty years ago)

hi tep!!

what's up with number 2.? what happened? how are you doing?

s1ocki (slutsky), Wednesday, 12 January 2005 22:27 (twenty years ago)

the chocolate on fries idea is intriguing--though i do recall you once ate a krispy kreme burger.

s1ocki (slutsky), Wednesday, 12 January 2005 22:28 (twenty years ago)

what's up with number 2.? what happened? how are you doing?

I was going to ask the same thing!

Leon the Fatboy (Ex Leon), Wednesday, 12 January 2005 22:31 (twenty years ago)

I'm mostly just mentioning it in the context of "YAY! / whoops bah / other YAY!", but it wasn't a big shock. I haven't been happy with my program, it has been bewildered by my complaints and interests, and I racked up two non-consecutive semesters (the ones where I had to take classes with undergrads and got bored) with GPAs too low. I didn't expect my grades to be as bad as they ended up last semester -- in one class, I was docked two letter grades for attendance, which is a good example of why this program stopped interesting me -- but so it goes. I'm applying to a different program here as a backup for the fall, but Lindsey is interviewing for a job that would have us moving to D.C. anyway.

At the moment, I can make enough money writing to balance out, as long as I defer my student loans. It's not a big deal, just kind of a mild surprise (I have been at least a part-time student for most of the last eleven and a half years, my OED.com withdrawal will hit in about two weeks).

Tep (ktepi), Wednesday, 12 January 2005 22:37 (twenty years ago)

And don't mock the Krispyburger!

The Rally's that had been next to the Krispy Kreme which hosted the Krispyburger invention -- the Rally's that thus inspired it all, although the McGriddle deserves some credit -- is no longer there. It is the end of an era.

Tep (ktepi), Wednesday, 12 January 2005 22:45 (twenty years ago)

Oh, and JJ's has added:

An expanded olive bar (although I'm lazy about olives and only buy pitted ones usually, which keeps my choices pretty limited);

An expanded Hispanic foods section;

German cheeses I totally missed last time because of the size of the cheese area;

A tour of the fish tanks where they farm their own fish (not for all the fish they carry, of course, but stuff like tilapia and other rabbits of the sea);

A LIQUOR STORE.

The monorail is still under construction.

Tep (ktepi), Wednesday, 12 January 2005 22:48 (twenty years ago)

good luck! that unsweetened chocolate thing sounds great. As always, I recommend you get anything with ginger.

teeny (teeny), Wednesday, 12 January 2005 22:50 (twenty years ago)

Ohh, I'm bringing my Giant Cooler (which has, in the past, kept ice frozen for two days), I wonder if I could manage to bring some Reed's ginger ice creams home.

Tep (ktepi), Wednesday, 12 January 2005 22:54 (twenty years ago)

oh and while the krispy kreme burger was being discussed did I ever mention Sedalia, MO's Goober Burger? It's a burger with a big smear of peanut butter, dunno if there's anything special about it beyond that, but folks love it.

xp you can get reeds ginger ice cream at trader joe's in Indianapolis you know.

teeny (teeny), Wednesday, 12 January 2005 22:55 (twenty years ago)

In Northampton, Packard's -- which I'm not sure is still around -- had a deep-fried hamburger "stuffed" with peanut butter, which was good apart from the fact that you could only order it well-done. I guess the peanut butter was to counteract that.

We just went to Trader Joe's in Indy the other day! I got blood oranges and prosecco and made a lot of mimosas. And those Italian chocolate bars with the amaretti cookies crushed up in them.

Tep (ktepi), Wednesday, 12 January 2005 22:58 (twenty years ago)

A BURGER WITH PEANUT BUTTER?!

s1ocki (slutsky), Wednesday, 12 January 2005 23:00 (twenty years ago)

See! The Krispyburger isn't all that weird, really.

Tep (ktepi), Wednesday, 12 January 2005 23:03 (twenty years ago)

Oh! That reminds me. I got some of those Godiva's truffles for Christmas, the new odd ones -- Horchata, Mojito, etc. The passion fruit one -- I forget now what it's called, but it has this passion fruit ganache that tastes like Ben and Jerry's passion fruit sorbet, mixed with some banana stuff -- was incredibly amazingly good.

Tep (ktepi), Wednesday, 12 January 2005 23:06 (twenty years ago)

Did I tell you they have passion fruit sorbet at Trader Joe's? Sharon's, I think, is the brand. It's like an orgasm in my mouth.

luna (luna.c), Wednesday, 12 January 2005 23:55 (twenty years ago)

A passionfruit one, that is, I mean.. oh nevermind.

luna (luna.c), Wednesday, 12 January 2005 23:55 (twenty years ago)

Damn, I should've looked at the ice cream section there. We didn't have a cooler or anything, so even though it was cold out, I didn't want to put frozen stuff in the trunk (but I probably could have).

Oh, on the Strange/Interesting Food tip, too, folks: Coke is testing a coffee-flavored Coke called Blak (I don't have the link handy) and is going to roll out Lime Coke sometime this year.

Tep (ktepi), Thursday, 13 January 2005 00:04 (twenty years ago)

Coffee coke doesn't sound that shit hot to me, but Lime Coke? I have been waiting for this for SO LONG NOW. HA HA DIET COKE DRINKERS, WE GET IT TOO.

I am so lame.

luna (luna.c), Thursday, 13 January 2005 00:11 (twenty years ago)

Coffee coke excites me because of my repeated quest to buy Pepsi Kona, see. And I like Coke better than Pepsi, so that's like perfect. It's like the sodapop gods said, "Hey, he tried to spend thirty bucks on a can of Pepsi Kona and he STILL got outbid, we should do him a solid," and spake unto the prophets in Atlanta, and et cetera.

My Pepsi Blue has all gone flat, so I'm going to reduce it down into a syrup and recombine it with club soda.

Tep (ktepi), Thursday, 13 January 2005 00:17 (twenty years ago)

Do you still have Holiday Spice pepsi? The 99 cent store is selling it here to get rid of it, and if you want more, I can get you some.

luna (luna.c), Thursday, 13 January 2005 00:22 (twenty years ago)

What the -- Holiday Spice? Coffee!? This kicks ass.

roxymuzak (roxymuzak), Thursday, 13 January 2005 00:25 (twenty years ago)

Ya, it's sort of red and tastes.. hmm, kinda allspice-y? Lemme know if you want to try it, Rox, and I'll send you some.

luna (luna.c), Thursday, 13 January 2005 00:26 (twenty years ago)

I am drinking Holiday Spice Pepsi right now, in fact. I have a 12 pack squirreled away. It's great, it's like a sloppy Xerox of Coke with someone crayoning in the stuff that was too light to photocopy.

If I ran the circus:

* More Dr Pepper competitors: bring back 7-Up Gold and Dr Slice, and have Pepsi FINALLY come out with a Dr Pepper type soda.

* Sour patch kids enters the soda arena. Too long we have neglected tartness in our fizzy beverages.

* Mel Gibson and Robert Downey Jr do surreal ad campaign -- using re-edited outtakes from their scenes together in The Singing Detective -- for the next big chocolate bar craze, AERO AMERICA

* Malted sodas.

* Home-use soda fountains designed around the coffee maker price point, with name brand syrups (regional/niche sodas could go "national" much more easily if they only had to ship the syrup, hello Cheerwine, Green River, and Vernors) AND "fountain only" exclusives as a sneaky way for Coke/Pepsi/etc to test-market new flavors. Package the syrup in both reclosable packages and single-batch (1 liter of finished product) packages, keep the basic fountain to a single spout; introduce dual and triple spout models at higher prices. A $70 soda fountain isn't going to catch on except as an upgrade from a $25 one.

A vote for Tep is a vote for me.

Tep (ktepi), Thursday, 13 January 2005 00:26 (twenty years ago)

do they have it in diet, Luna?

roxymuzak (roxymuzak), Thursday, 13 January 2005 00:27 (twenty years ago)

Not that I've seen.

luna (luna.c), Thursday, 13 January 2005 00:28 (twenty years ago)

Also, Krispyburgers would be an actual menu item.

There's no diet Holiday Spice, unfortunately -- Holiday Spice is officially cancelled, since Pepsi is now doing seasonal sodas (which means its replacement is either out and I don't know about it, or about to come out; hmm, quarterly sodas, what comes before summer, maybe it's ST PATRICKS DAY SHILLELAGH PEPSI), but they didn't have a diet one to begin with. That's the problem with the soda flavor craze, hardly any of them get diet versions -- Cherry Vanilla Dr Pepper is the only one in years to include its diet variant at launch.

Tep (ktepi), Thursday, 13 January 2005 00:35 (twenty years ago)

?? I thought we already had lime coke??

teeny (teeny), Thursday, 13 January 2005 00:40 (twenty years ago)

Nope, just "Diet Coke with lime" (as opposed to "Diet Lime Coke," see). They brought out Diet Coke with lime and with lemon as their diet-only things; the lemon one is very weird, but the lime one is good, like spilling a Diet Coke into your seltzer.

Tep (ktepi), Thursday, 13 January 2005 00:41 (twenty years ago)

Tep, I will be in New Orleans when you will be in New Orleans! For the 4th-6th at any rate. You must come to Donna's (where we're playing Saturday night) and have the best cheeseburger in the world.

Jordan (Jordan), Thursday, 13 January 2005 00:44 (twenty years ago)

ah, yes. When I do drink soda (really rarely) I like the taste of diet coke better, so I never even remember the non-diet varieties. There's some sort of base note that's different between the two...one is cinnamon? help me here tep.

teeny (teeny), Thursday, 13 January 2005 00:46 (twenty years ago)

Wooo -- I'll see what I can work out, I've been just tagging along with everyone else's plans. If you have a cell phone, I can email you my number/vice versa?

xpost -- the thing with Diet Coke is that it's not really a diet version of Coca-Cola so much as it's the diet cola made by the Coca-Cola Company, if you see what I mean. Whereas Diet Pepsi is intended to be a more direct analogue to Pepsi. Coca-Cola has cinnamon and cloves both, yeah, and more orange than Pepsi does (almost every cola contains some amount of orange, it's part of what makes up what we think of as "cola flavor"; and it's one reason why so many well-meaning "as few ingredients as possible" gourmet colas don't taste recognizably like cola) -- and I think those are all things either missing in Diet Coke or used in much smaller amounts. The spiciness and tartness are both missing.

Tep (ktepi), Thursday, 13 January 2005 00:50 (twenty years ago)

Yeah, that sounds good. I'm already planning out all of my meals, since I'll only be there for 48 hours.

Jordan (Jordan), Thursday, 13 January 2005 00:58 (twenty years ago)

I've actually tried to decide today which sandwich I'm going to get at Martin Wine Cellar, and then realized that was a really nutty thing to be thinking about :)

Tep (ktepi), Thursday, 13 January 2005 01:00 (twenty years ago)

I miss Jungle Jims : ( But now that teeny has alerted me to the presence of Trader Joe's in Indy, and I am exceptionally bored, I may just make a trip soon. also, LIME COKE-yay.

jocelyn (Jocelyn), Thursday, 13 January 2005 13:39 (twenty years ago)

The Trader Joe's in Indianapolis is smallish (unless there's more than one), but there's a mall not far away, and a Half-Price Books, so you can make a thing out of it. And one of those Melting Pot fondue restaurants behind the mall (but you're in Lafayette, home of CRAZY CHEF TONY, you do not need to be spending your restaurant dollars elsewhere).

I have decided to issue myself a scallop crudo challenge, i.e. while I'm shopping at Jungle Jim's I'm going to put aside a couple ingredients I can use to make scallop crudo (Yet Another Term for raw fish) in the car as soon as we leave. I spent like half an hour this morning trying to find an eyeglass case one of my paring knives would fit into, which is when it struck me: why do I have more than one paring knife, and why on earth do I have so many eyeglass cases?

Tep (ktepi), Thursday, 13 January 2005 14:15 (twenty years ago)

There are two trader joe's in Indy! http://www.traderjoes.com/locations/search/INDIANA.asp

teeny (teeny), Thursday, 13 January 2005 16:53 (twenty years ago)

Awesome! I know exactly where the Castleton one is.
CRAZY CHEF TONY keeps threatening to retire soon, so you better get your butt back up here. Also, new fancy-schmancy Korean restaurant!

jocelyn (Jocelyn), Thursday, 13 January 2005 16:56 (twenty years ago)

Damn, I had a suspicion there might be. Oh well -- the one we went to we ran across purely by accident, so it's all good. Now we just need a Whole Foods.

(I'm resisting the urge to find out which if any of those are in the D.C. area because I don't want to jinx that. But I have to assume Congressmen love organic produce as much as the rest of us.)

xpost -- yep, the Castleton one is the one we went to. And oh man! Money is potentially tight this semester because of the whole firing thing, but I will have to plan a Lafayette trip. Crazy Chef Tony must be experienced again!

Tep (ktepi), Thursday, 13 January 2005 16:59 (twenty years ago)

Come to D.C., Tep! We have Trader Joe's and Whole Foods and great farmer's markets and huge Grand Mart Korean grocery stores and lots and lots of Ethiopian restaurants!

What we don't have is affordable housing, but that is another thread. . .

quincie, Thursday, 13 January 2005 17:41 (twenty years ago)

Coming to DC isn't up to me so much as circumstance -- Lindsey is being recruited for a job, and if she gets it, we'd move there. It'd be a step in the right direction for me geographically, it's what she wants work-wise, and we'd have lots more money. (We would not likely be living in D.C. itself, I don't know how much that affects housing cost.) I have family out there I haven't seen in years, too.

And maaaan, Whole Foods. We both miss their store-brand soda and bakery above all else.

Tep (ktepi), Thursday, 13 January 2005 17:55 (twenty years ago)

And DC has Ben's Chili Bowl! In what other city could you enjoy a monstrous chili dog in a civil rights landmark?

There's affordable housing, Quince--you've just got to drive in from Baltimore every day....

Stephen X (Stephen X), Thursday, 13 January 2005 17:58 (twenty years ago)

Are the Virginia suburbs too expensive, too? (That's where my family lives, but they've lived there since my great-uncle was in the OSS, so over sixty years now.)

Tep (ktepi), Thursday, 13 January 2005 18:01 (twenty years ago)

I think they're not too bad, Tep; I know a fair number of artists/low-level-govt-drudges/not-for-profiteers who manage to live there. There seem to even be a few marginally bohemian enclaves for escape from the more crewcut Pentagonian tendencies in NoVa culture.

Stephen X (Stephen X), Thursday, 13 January 2005 22:15 (twenty years ago)

Excellent! Thank you.

Tep (ktepi), Thursday, 13 January 2005 22:19 (twenty years ago)

Actually, the rental market is pretty soft right now, so you could find a nice place to rent in a cool neighborhood for (relatively)not too much. I'm just bitter because we're trying to buy a condo in the NW DC/Bethesda area and it sucks ass--we've written offers on two places and have been beaten by competing contracts that go, say, 40k above list price. With no contingencies and 50% down.

End rant. I console myself with great food! The chinese restaurants in the Rockville area are killer and there are many strange and hard-to-find foods to be had.

quincie, Friday, 14 January 2005 14:26 (twenty years ago)

Chinese restaurants would be terrific, you have no idea -- I have somehow wound up in a college town with two Tibetan restaurants, a Burmese restaurant, a smattering of good Thai and Indian, but only one really good Chinese restaurant (and it's only good for the "so authentic I'm the only white guy who orders them" dishes like spicy pig ears).

The one that delivers uses cheap pickled jalapenos (the kind that taste more like pickles than jalapenos) for all its spicy dishes, instead of dried chiles ... which is really weird in most cases.

Tep (ktepi), Friday, 14 January 2005 14:31 (twenty years ago)

A BURGER WITH PEANUT BUTTER?!

bill cosby gets his cheeseburgers with peanut butter and mayonnaise in 'mother, jugs, and speed.' the memory has always stuck with me.

lauren (laurenp), Friday, 14 January 2005 15:15 (twenty years ago)

Tep if you like your cheese you must try Arran Cheddar with Malt Whisky. Whisky generally gives me the heave but this combination is divine. Mmmm. The Arran and Black Pepper was delish too as was the one with chilis.

I'm talking myself into buying cheese now.

Rumpington Lane, Friday, 14 January 2005 15:26 (twenty years ago)

Man, I haven't thought about Mother, Jugs, and Speed in ages. Cosby, Raquel Welch, and ... ? I don't remember who the other guy was.

Cheddar with Whisky! Well, I'll have to try that. I think I saw it, actually -- maybe not Arran, I don't know.

Tep (ktepi), Friday, 14 January 2005 15:37 (twenty years ago)

Wait a minute, I only just noticed about Tep being out of grad school (still, isn't it remarkably freeing?).

Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 14 January 2005 15:45 (twenty years ago)

Tep if you like your cheese you must try Arran Cheddar with Malt Whisky.

I don't know if what I had a few weeks ago was Arran, all I know is that it was a certain kind of very expensive ($20/lb) cheddar, and the judges at the scotch tasting they had deemed it to be the best. It was probably the most perfectly matched flavors I've ever experienced.

00ps, Friday, 14 January 2005 15:56 (twenty years ago)

This sounds of glory.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 14 January 2005 15:58 (twenty years ago)

harvey keitel was speed, completing the triumvirate. larry hagman also had a pretty sizeable role as one of their sleazebag fellow ambulance drivers.

lauren (laurenp), Friday, 14 January 2005 16:01 (twenty years ago)

It is, Ned, yeah (freeing, not glory; I mean, maybe the cheese is glory, I don't know yet) -- mind you, I'm glad my girlfriend and I get along so well, since I literally could not afford to break up with her right now :) But things work out fine on that angle; if she gets the DC job, we have to get married (not have to exactly, but "they'll pay moving expenses and give me health insurance if we do").

I'm gonna miss the OED, though, seriously. I'm just glad I had started using Wikipedia as my non-specialist reference, so that the OED's all I miss. (Scratch that -- the OED and online full-text journal access.)

Harvey Keitel! Geez. Now he has to have a sitcom.

Tep (ktepi), Friday, 14 January 2005 16:15 (twenty years ago)

it's a pretty great movie, actually. i hadn't seen it in years, then i did recently and really enjoyed it.

you should try to find screwpine and experiment with fragrant malaysian dishes.

lauren (laurenp), Friday, 14 January 2005 16:20 (twenty years ago)

if she gets the DC job, we have to get married (not have to exactly, but "they'll pay moving expenses and give me health insurance if we do").

What, they wouldn't do this for single people?

Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 14 January 2005 16:20 (twenty years ago)

Not health insurance, and they'd only pay her moving expenses, not mine (I'm not sure how they'd tell the difference... maybe there's a per-person amount they pay.) I don't mind -- it means a smaller wedding for lack of the time to plan a larger one, in such a way that not a single relative can complain to us, since we can just blame the government.

Screwpine -- I just got a bottle of Rooh-something the other day, "summer drink concentrate" that's this bright red syrup flavored with rose and screwpine. It's very good in champagne.

Tep (ktepi), Friday, 14 January 2005 16:28 (twenty years ago)

I don't mind -- it means a smaller wedding for lack of the time to plan a larger one, in such a way that not a single relative can complain to us, since we can just blame the government.

Nice. Do the Teeny thing and just have a priest and his wife do the ceremony and you'll be good to go.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 14 January 2005 16:29 (twenty years ago)

That's what I figure -- I'd like my ex/best friend to be there, too -- I was the Honor Guy in her wedding -- but she lives in China and can't afford to travel back here very often. If it all goes down before she'd be able to be back here, my plan is to call her on the cell phone and have someone hold the phone during the ceremony.

And then I'll make some hot wings or something.

Tep (ktepi), Friday, 14 January 2005 16:32 (twenty years ago)

(I also like the idea of getting married for a practical reason rather than "she finished school, what shall we plan next?", which is the attitude I see from way too many people -- cause I know too many academics -- or as a procreative signal.)

(And I hate ceremonies and formal shit. If I went nuts and bought a gun and shot all my loved ones, I would totally shoot myself while I was at it just to get out of going to the funeral.)

Tep (ktepi), Friday, 14 January 2005 16:37 (twenty years ago)

I have a lamb's head.

I have sliced pig's stomach roasted with soy sauce, garlic, and ginger.

I have fizzy cola bottles.

Tep (ktepi), Sunday, 16 January 2005 22:10 (twenty years ago)

that's it??

teeny (teeny), Sunday, 16 January 2005 22:28 (twenty years ago)

Ha, no. But I don't have the receipt -- this time it was a Christmas present to me.

Other things --

Tim Tams (iir the name c), Blair's Death Rain potato chips;

much citrus (blood oranges, Meyer lemons, cara cara oranges, honey tangerines, minneolas, ugli/uniq fruit, sour oranges);

some very nice soft cow's milk cheese marinated in sunflower oil;

prosciutto, various salamis, and chorizo;

Rogue Morimoto ale, unfiltered sake, Bonny Doon freisa frizzante, Three Philosophers Belgian ale blended with cherry lambic, Lindemans kriek and cassis lambics, an Islay Scotch;

duck legs and a pork picnic;

black vinegar and coconut vinegar;

mayonnaise flavored snacks;

big sacks of basmati and arborio rices;

Tillamook butter;

opal basil;

culantro (a relative of cilantro, much stronger-flavored, used in Trinidadian dishes that are so spicy no other herb would come through);

smoked scallops;

and I'm blanking on what else.

Tep (ktepi), Sunday, 16 January 2005 22:59 (twenty years ago)

COCONUT VINEGAR??? I need to hear more about that.

quincie, Monday, 17 January 2005 14:35 (twenty years ago)

Yep, it's a Filipino thing (maybe not exclusively, I don't know, but it seems to be the most common of the apparently many native vinegars, and the one usually used for adobo). It has a very strong acrid smell -- it's "vinegar made from coconut" (the juice? I assume, but it might be sap, for all I know; what part of the plant does palm sugar come from?) as opposed to "vinegar flavored with coconut."

I made adobo like 12 times over the holidays, so I probably won't get to trying this until next month.

Tep (ktepi), Monday, 17 January 2005 21:29 (twenty years ago)

Does it have a coconutty aroma or flavor? I find this idea fascinating. . . what are you going to do with it?

quincie, Tuesday, 18 January 2005 14:27 (twenty years ago)

The vinegar scent is too strong for me to pick up anything else in it -- I haven't tasted it yet. I'm definitely going to make adobo (marinate meat in soy sauce and vinegar, garlic, black pepper, bay leaves; cook in marinade until thickened to a sauce), and yesterday I put up some chile-tangerine vinegar that used the coconut vinegar, but that won't be ready until summer.

I'm thinking, though, I'll have to make some vinegar chicken :) It's the kind of thing where the differences in vinegars really stands out, sometimes even moreso than in a vinaigrette (depending on what else is in the vinaigrette).

Tep (ktepi), Tuesday, 18 January 2005 15:50 (twenty years ago)

ooooooooo I LOVE your vinegar chicken--I've made it twice but both times with cider vinegar, I think.

Strange or hard to find "food" you should try: Twinkies flavored lip balm. I got this in my x-mas stocking but have been too scared to try it.

quincie, Tuesday, 18 January 2005 19:00 (twenty years ago)

Holy God!

Tep (ktepi), Tuesday, 18 January 2005 19:11 (twenty years ago)

Shall I send it, then? I insist you try it straight up and then use it to frost something and have your friends eat it.

quincie, Tuesday, 18 January 2005 20:43 (twenty years ago)

can you put peanut butter on burgers?!

cozen (Cozen), Tuesday, 18 January 2005 22:06 (twenty years ago)

perhaps think of it like thai peanut sauce on chicken? I'm a vegetarian, so maybe this is not a good analogy.

teeny (teeny), Tuesday, 18 January 2005 22:09 (twenty years ago)

Yeah, it's pretty much like (very mild) peanut sauce. It's not going to be replacing ketchup any time soon (I wonder how it would be with fries, though).

Quincie, I'll trade you something for the lip balm if you want, just name it!

Tep (ktepi), Tuesday, 18 January 2005 22:12 (twenty years ago)

More on coconut vinegar:

* Often just called "local vinegar" in Philippines (which is misleading since the Philippines have so many local varieties of vinegar, but if everyone knows what they mean, I reckon they can call it Alakazam Doodlebug and it'd still work out).

* Penguin/Oxford sez: Toddy, an alcoholic liquor, is made by tapping the tree, which is done by cutting off the tip of a flower stem. The sap released ferments quickly and spontaneously. The resulting toddy can be drunk raw; or distilled to make arak; or used as a source of yeast for bread; or allowed to turn into vinegar.

* It does have a slight aftertaste, although I think that'll come out more when I've made something with it -- the acrid smell is very strong.

* Seems to be used in Indian, Sri Lankan, and Thai cooking as well (so I'd assume also Southeast Asian in general).

I'm going to make a papaya salad with it, I think -- the papayas I have are not really green papayas, but they're not fully ripe, either, so I'll shred those, dress em with coconut vinegar and citrus and some spice...

Tep (ktepi), Thursday, 20 January 2005 15:23 (twenty years ago)

I've drunk toddy in Sri Lanka, it was fucking vile. Sri Lankan arak (not to be confused with Middle Eastern arrack, which I still haven't plucked up the courage to drink a year on) is OK though, it's pretty close to rum in taste.

aldo_cowpat (aldo_cowpat), Thursday, 20 January 2005 15:35 (twenty years ago)

Yeah, toddy strikes me as a drink of convenience, like moonshine (which I know some people love, but ... not me).

Tep (ktepi), Thursday, 20 January 2005 15:39 (twenty years ago)

Straight from the tree (well, straight from the hand of the guy who cut it off the tree), and almost straight back up again.

Like sour milk with surgical spirit in it.

aldo_cowpat (aldo_cowpat), Thursday, 20 January 2005 15:51 (twenty years ago)

Hmm, I have a bottle of Philippine "local vinegar" (made sweet & sour carrots last night, mmm) and it says it's from sugarcane, not coconut.

I Am Curious (George) (Rock Hardy), Thursday, 20 January 2005 16:56 (twenty years ago)

Hm, odd. I wonder if the important part of "local vinegar" is simply the local part after all -- either to differentiate it from imported wine vinegars which would be too expensive on the islands to use for vinegar-heavy dishes like adobo, but would be easy to find here (a lot of the Filipino cooking stuff on the web is written by first- or second-generation Filipino-American women); or because vinegars from local ingredients all have about the same acidity level?

Filipino cooking is one of those things I'm learning in bits and pieces, and I don't have a handle on the big picture yet, other than the "it's one of those 'naturally occurring fusion cuisines,' with elements that would seem forced if a restaurateur had put them together" thing. I haven't found an excellent cookbook -- most of them are either recipe-driven without much discussion, or appropriate for the Time-Life series Tours Of The Exotic Kitchens Of Brown People -- so most of what I know, I get from blogs.

Tep (ktepi), Thursday, 20 January 2005 17:14 (twenty years ago)

I just looked at the label of this stuff. The brand name is Datu Puti. The product is called Sukang Iloco (Sugarcane Juice Vinegar). Orange and maroon label.

Curious George Rides a Republican (Rock Hardy), Thursday, 20 January 2005 22:02 (twenty years ago)

Dude, I think I need your Vinegar Chicken recipe.

Curious George Rides a Republican (Rock Hardy), Thursday, 20 January 2005 22:02 (twenty years ago)

With a cleaver if possible (a good chef's knife ought to be able to do it, too, since the bones are hollow), chop chicken parts into smaller pieces -- like cut the drumstick into two or three pieces, ditto the thighs, the breast you can probably get seven or eight pieces out of.

Remove any small bone fragments you create in the process.

Brown chicken, skin-side down, in a non-stick pan; when skin begins to crisp, add some chopped onions to the fat that's cooked out of the chicken, stir until the onions lose their rawness, sprinkle everything with a generous amount of crushed dried chiles (crushed red pepper'll do it, and you can play around with using powders instead, or fresh/pickled chiles, etc), and add enough vinegar to come up maybe halfway on the chicken.

Cook on medium-heat until vinegar is cooked away and chicken is cooked through. Shazam!

Tep (ktepi), Thursday, 20 January 2005 22:07 (twenty years ago)

SLOBBERIFFIC

Curious George Rides a Republican (Rock Hardy), Thursday, 20 January 2005 22:52 (twenty years ago)

So Tep did you try the coffee-bomb thing with the timtams I suggested? :)

Trayce (trayce), Friday, 21 January 2005 01:34 (twenty years ago)

I was going to, but then they, uh, accidentally got all eaten before I could. But man, they're good as is. My friend-in-China's mother is hooked on them, so friend is going to bring me some more sometime when she's visiting.

Tep (ktepi), Friday, 21 January 2005 01:43 (twenty years ago)

They sell timtams in China!?

Trayce (trayce), Friday, 21 January 2005 01:44 (twenty years ago)

I wonder if I could mail you some? Would they survive the posting without melting/squashing?

Trayce (trayce), Friday, 21 January 2005 01:49 (twenty years ago)

There are lots of Australian expats in China -- moreso, at least where my friend is, than any other group. So there's some Australian stuff in the Western stores, and the English-language channel carries some Australian television. The timtams are really cheap, which is unusual for western goods there.

It would probably be too expensive to mail them, wouldn't it? I mean, that'd be great, obviously, and if there was anything I could get you, just name it -- but it wouldn't be worth spending like $20 in postage on or anything.

Tep (ktepi), Friday, 21 January 2005 01:53 (twenty years ago)

Im not evem sure I can post food, though I don't see why not... I might look into it some time out of curiosity ;)

Trayce (trayce), Friday, 21 January 2005 01:55 (twenty years ago)

I can send you many fine bacons. (I cannot vouch for the condition in which they arrive.)

Tep (ktepi), Friday, 21 January 2005 02:22 (twenty years ago)

Somehow I think that kind of thing would get seized at customs :( Stupid australian customs laws!

Trayce (trayce), Friday, 21 January 2005 02:46 (twenty years ago)

I ordered spices from Australia not long ago, and it cost me an arm and a leg -- I wonder if that's why (the weak dollar was part of it, granted). This poses a problem for your attendance at Iron Chef Chicago!

Tep (ktepi), Friday, 21 January 2005 02:50 (twenty years ago)

The coconut vinegar -- combined with dark soy sauce, culantro, a bay leaf, a little seaweed, that Japanese pepper flake stuff, and a splash of Dr Pepper -- makes excellent adobo.

Tep (ktepi), Monday, 24 January 2005 18:12 (twenty years ago)

Dr Pepper has a lot of possibilities.

Pears can just fuck right off. (kenan), Monday, 24 January 2005 18:25 (twenty years ago)

It's perfect for ham, makes good ice cream -- my one attempt at Dr Pepper hot wings came out badly, but I think I could go another way with them.

Tep (ktepi), Monday, 24 January 2005 18:26 (twenty years ago)

Other random food notes:

Every time I go to Jungle Jim's, I check out the honey table. Selection doesn't change all that often, and I don't like flavored honeys like blueberry walnut velvet surprise or ramsbladder cup or whatever, but man, ever since I discovered Tupelo honey however many years ago, I've been a nut for really good, pure honey.

For a while -- well, still, since I have two jars of it in the kitchen -- I was hooked on Greek forest honeys, which is sort of the "wild yeast bread" of honey. The bees aren't kept in a clover field or whatever, they're eating the nectar produced by other insects who don't need flowers to chow down -- you can taste the difference much more than you'd imagine, if all you've had is clover/wildflower/meadow honey.

This time, I got this, a New Zealand variety of forest honey -- beech trees instead of evergreens -- and man oh fuck, it's the best honey I've had, to an extent that that phrase means more than it would have three or four years ago.

Tep (ktepi), Monday, 24 January 2005 19:39 (twenty years ago)

That sounds awesome.

Leon the Fatboy (Ex Leon), Monday, 24 January 2005 20:30 (twenty years ago)

It's really incredible. I want to become a honey zealot and stop people on the street and tell them to lick my spoon. I want vanilla ice cream to try it on, but the only ice cream in the house is the Ben and Jerry's for China friends and the homemade sheep cheese ice cream.

Tep (ktepi), Monday, 24 January 2005 20:31 (twenty years ago)

Sheep cheese? What's that like?

Leon the Fatboy (Ex Leon), Monday, 24 January 2005 20:35 (twenty years ago)

That reminds me:

Sheep's Milk Cheese Ice Cream.

Dude, it has three different dairy products listed in the title, math says it is good.

Ferran Adria makes a parmesan ice cream sandwich with parmesan ice cream pressed between parmesan crisps (grate parmesan onto a baking sheet, cook until golden, let cool). I started thinking about it -- mascarpone in tiramisu, cream cheese in cheesecake, Creole cream cheese ice cream, frozen yogurt (cultured dairy, just like cheese) -- and said, hey, fuck it.

I don't know if this is the best or easiest or most sensible way to make this, but it's the way I made it.

First make a cheese syrup (!):

Heat some heavy cream in a pan -- 3 or 4 tablespoons depending on how much ice cream you're making. Add an equal amount of sugar, and grate an equal amount of firm sheep's milk cheese into it -- Pecorino, anything with roughly the texture of parmesan.

Heat until cheese is melted and sugar is dissolved.

Taste it. If you hate it, don't bother going further.

Let cool.

With an immersion blender or whatever you've got that can do the work, whip another cup of cold heavy cream in a cold metal bowl until stiff. Whip the cheese syrup into it, and a small egg yolk (I had quail eggs, I used a quail egg). Cover and freeze.

xpost; sheep's milk cheese is sort of halfway between goat cheese (which I don't usually like) and regular cow's milk cheese. It has a distinctive taste that's kind of tangy compared to cow's milk, but not nearly as much as goat cheese -- tends to be nutty, the way good parmesan is.

Tep (ktepi), Monday, 24 January 2005 20:38 (twenty years ago)

I meant to say the ice cream -- that sounds fascinating! Hopefully I will get to try to make this soon, if I get time.

Leon the Fatboy (Ex Leon), Monday, 24 January 2005 20:43 (twenty years ago)

I've gotten a lot of weird looks over it, but it's really not a ... what, a "challenging" ice cream. Taste-wise, green tea ice cream is further afield than this is, which surprised me, I wasn't really sure what to expect.

Tep (ktepi), Monday, 24 January 2005 20:45 (twenty years ago)

one month passes...
DAMN YOU LUTHER VANDROSS!

(This is what jess was referring to, it seems.)

Tep (ktepi), Friday, 4 March 2005 01:58 (twenty years ago)

Ohhh wait, this must be the thing I was talking about that gave me the idea for the Krispyburger in the first place. Everyone thought I made it up, I was like, no no, people do this, it's a thing.

Tep (ktepi), Friday, 4 March 2005 02:01 (twenty years ago)

one year passes...
Wow, I made sheep cheese ice cream?

Tep (ktepi), Tuesday, 24 October 2006 20:59 (eighteen years ago)

Tep have you ever tried mofongo?

Euai Kapaui (tracerhand), Tuesday, 24 October 2006 21:57 (eighteen years ago)

I haven't! I keep meaning to, though. Pork and plantains, what's not to like?

Tep (ktepi), Wednesday, 25 October 2006 13:35 (eighteen years ago)

Mofongo rules, ok?! I miss new york.

(btw, Tep, I made your 'tangy citrus pickles' from yr 2004 cookbook last night--let 'em sit overnight--they were fantastic in the makeshift shawarma (roast chicken, marinated in lemon, garlic, coriander, chopped and stuffed in pitas with arugala, tabbouleh, garlic sauce, chili sauce, and yr picklesmmmmmm) we had tonight!

I was going to make them for a cuban sandwich, as you suggest, but the store was out of pork loin, so chicken it became.)

g00blar (gooblar), Wednesday, 25 October 2006 18:21 (eighteen years ago)

hendersons relish (much nicer than worcestershire sauce - which reminds me - I really must make a bloody mary with it)

Porkpie (porkpie), Wednesday, 25 October 2006 19:07 (eighteen years ago)

three months pass...
This was not an easy thread to find, and it is very weird searching my name on ILX.

Maple syrup aged in bourbon barrels. So good.

Tep (ktepi), Friday, 2 February 2007 16:51 (eighteen years ago)


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