Otherwise I'm not so keen on salty food. It's overkill! It totally destroys whatever else is going on in the dish. I hate that cooks use it to mask the fact that their food isn't flavorful enough, instead of figuring out what ingredients/seasonings will provoke the best flavors.
Lately I've been really conservative with my use of salt, holding off on salting things until the last minute and then only using a little. I like to err on the side of understatement, but I still can't help but get a bit offended/disappointed when whoever's eating my food reaches for the salt shaker. It seems so wrong, so... inconsiderate.
Salt: C/D?
― Annouschka Magnatech (Jody Beth Rosen), Tuesday, 30 September 2003 17:18 (twenty-one years ago)
― dyson (dyson), Tuesday, 30 September 2003 17:25 (twenty-one years ago)
i love salt preserved foods, anything salted, pickled, smoked, cheese and most methods of curing require copious quantities of salt.
― Ed (dali), Tuesday, 30 September 2003 17:28 (twenty-one years ago)
― Kingfish (Kingfish), Tuesday, 30 September 2003 17:31 (twenty-one years ago)
― Francis Watlington (Francis Watlington), Tuesday, 30 September 2003 18:13 (twenty-one years ago)
― Ed (dali), Tuesday, 30 September 2003 18:36 (twenty-one years ago)
― fletrejet, Tuesday, 30 September 2003 18:54 (twenty-one years ago)
In fact it kinda bothers me to see people put huge quantities of salt on anything, just these thoughts pop into my head like "WTF are you curing that right here? Please tell me you're not gonna put that in your mouth...oh my god you put that in your mouth! Doesn't it hurt!?!" It's not like the food doesn't have flavors of it's own, y'know.
― nickalicious (nickalicious), Tuesday, 30 September 2003 19:11 (twenty-one years ago)
No, I know (rosemary + salt = one of my favorite combinations evah), but a little goes a long way.
― Annouschka Magnatech (Jody Beth Rosen), Tuesday, 30 September 2003 19:13 (twenty-one years ago)
Geurande, Maldon or Trapani.
― Ed (dali), Tuesday, 30 September 2003 19:16 (twenty-one years ago)
― Annouschka Magnatech (Jody Beth Rosen), Tuesday, 30 September 2003 19:17 (twenty-one years ago)
― Annouschka Magnatech (Jody Beth Rosen), Tuesday, 30 September 2003 19:19 (twenty-one years ago)
This is completely mental in that you don't need that much salt if you are using other spices (I defy you to tell me that my garlic-curry-oregano-red pepper-DASH OF SALT fried chicken is bland).
― Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Tuesday, 30 September 2003 19:22 (twenty-one years ago)
And the rims of glasses containing margaritas = TOTAL CLASSIC, but that's like so "duh" I didn't think I'd have to reiterate that.
― nickalicious (nickalicious), Tuesday, 30 September 2003 19:22 (twenty-one years ago)
Just visualising this made me gain 5 pounds. And I thought I'd lost my tolerance for chicken, after eating it every which way, except dripping-blood raw.
French Fries is the only thing I DO put salt on. Since mum has high blood pressure from years of salty red herring, I try to avoid salt like the plague
― Nichole Graham (Nichole Graham), Tuesday, 30 September 2003 19:30 (twenty-one years ago)
I said adequate salt. "Dash of salt" might be adequate in this case, I wouldn't know until I tasted your chicken. If you put NO salt in your chicken, it would be guaranteed to taste like shit. It is something that is independant of other spices and the amount that should be added has nothing to due with the rest of the spices present.
Brining does wonderful things for the taste and texture of chicken, and that operation involves a lot of salt.
― fletrejet, Tuesday, 30 September 2003 20:49 (twenty-one years ago)
― Curt1s St3ph3ns, Tuesday, 30 September 2003 22:52 (twenty-one years ago)
Last I heard (my father has hypertension) is that while salt aggravates existing hypertension, it is not actually a cause.
― Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Tuesday, 30 September 2003 22:57 (twenty-one years ago)
― teeny (teeny), Tuesday, 30 September 2003 22:58 (twenty-one years ago)
I know, Spencer, but I figure that tis better to prevent the possibility now, than have to take pills to manage the hypertension later.
― Nichole Graham (Nichole Graham), Tuesday, 30 September 2003 23:00 (twenty-one years ago)
― Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Tuesday, 30 September 2003 23:04 (twenty-one years ago)
― Ally (mlescaut), Tuesday, 30 September 2003 23:06 (twenty-one years ago)
― teeny (teeny), Tuesday, 30 September 2003 23:09 (twenty-one years ago)
― Vic (Vic), Tuesday, 30 September 2003 23:10 (twenty-one years ago)
― Nichole Graham (Nichole Graham), Tuesday, 30 September 2003 23:13 (twenty-one years ago)
(note: I rarely salt my food, at least food that I cook myself, after preparation)
― Ally (mlescaut), Tuesday, 30 September 2003 23:20 (twenty-one years ago)
― Nichole Graham (Nichole Graham), Tuesday, 30 September 2003 23:22 (twenty-one years ago)
I like that one huge salt dome that's down near New Orleans that the Tabasco people own, Avery Island itself -- this link talks about the history of the island (and the 'Mr. Ned' who started the company, rah!), this about said Mr. Ned himself. Clearly a man of vision and a brilliant name.
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 30 September 2003 23:28 (twenty-one years ago)
Screams time for a 'Ned' reunion on the family tree. Course, you may only count as 'distant cousin'.
― Nichole Graham (Nichole Graham), Tuesday, 30 September 2003 23:33 (twenty-one years ago)
― Chris P (Chris P), Wednesday, 1 October 2003 00:16 (twenty-one years ago)
But I only like salt in moderation, and when it is blended into the food, not as an after-thought at the table.
Excellent way to cut salt consumption: toast together sea salt and sesame seeds and use as a sprinked topping on steamed veggies ... excellent!
― I'm Passing Open Windows (Ms Laura), Wednesday, 1 October 2003 03:24 (twenty-one years ago)
― Ed (dali), Wednesday, 1 October 2003 10:35 (twenty-one years ago)
― Pinkpanther (Pinkpanther), Wednesday, 1 October 2003 10:41 (twenty-one years ago)
THEY WERE FANTASTIC. The "salt must always be added" hypothesis is on shaky ground. (CAVEAT: My olive oil might have had a miniscule amount of salt in it.)
― Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Wednesday, 1 October 2003 12:29 (twenty-one years ago)
― Nick Southall (Nick Southall), Wednesday, 1 October 2003 12:37 (twenty-one years ago)
― Andrew Farrell (afarrell), Wednesday, 1 October 2003 12:42 (twenty-one years ago)
― Dave Stelfox (Dave Stelfox), Wednesday, 1 October 2003 12:47 (twenty-one years ago)
― Nick Southall (Nick Southall), Wednesday, 1 October 2003 12:53 (twenty-one years ago)
― Dave Stelfox (Dave Stelfox), Wednesday, 1 October 2003 13:12 (twenty-one years ago)
― NA (Nick A.), Wednesday, 1 October 2003 13:13 (twenty-one years ago)
Shakey ground? Hardly. Your experiment did not have a control, nor was it single blind, much less double blind, as it should be.
Besides, I question the judgment of someone who fries eggs in olive oil. You fry eggs in butter.
― fletrejet, Wednesday, 1 October 2003 13:38 (twenty-one years ago)
Also, I think you underestimate the amount of cayenne pepper I put on these eggs.
― Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Wednesday, 1 October 2003 14:11 (twenty-one years ago)
It would say on the package if there is salt added or not.
"Also, I think you underestimate the amount of cayenne pepper I put on these eggs."
So all you are saying is that if you put enough capsaicin onto something, it will kill your tastebuds enough to make anything palatable?
― fletrejet, Wednesday, 1 October 2003 14:34 (twenty-one years ago)
http://www.abbm.org/images/photos/abbm/salt%20lick%20vertical.jpg
― Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Wednesday, 1 October 2003 14:37 (twenty-one years ago)
― caitlin (caitlin), Wednesday, 1 October 2003 14:37 (twenty-one years ago)
― Ed (dali), Wednesday, 1 October 2003 14:43 (twenty-one years ago)
It's interesting that you would think fried eggs MUST have salt added to them since you only seem to cook them one way.
― Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Wednesday, 1 October 2003 14:49 (twenty-one years ago)
Butter and eggs go *very* well together; there are many recipes using this combination. Bacon grease is ok. Sometimes if I am making bacon I will just cook the eggs in that. Olive oil will not do anything for the flavour of eggs (and I know this from using it when I have run out of butter).
"It's interesting that you would think fried eggs MUST have salt added to them since you only seem to cook them one way."
I make them many ways. I sometimes add spices similar to what you put on yours, although probably in lesser amounts. I sometimes add fresh herbs, whatever. But if someone cooks me some eggs w/o salt, it always tastes bad and I reach for the saltshaker.
― fletrejet, Wednesday, 1 October 2003 15:25 (twenty-one years ago)
― Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Wednesday, 1 October 2003 15:39 (twenty-one years ago)
― Ed (dali), Wednesday, 1 October 2003 15:53 (twenty-one years ago)
― Jeff-PTTL (Jeff), Tuesday, 19 April 2005 18:57 (twenty years ago)
― kelsey (kelstarry), Tuesday, 19 April 2005 18:57 (twenty years ago)
― adam (adam), Tuesday, 19 April 2005 19:00 (twenty years ago)
― kelsey (kelstarry), Tuesday, 19 April 2005 19:01 (twenty years ago)
― Trayce (trayce), Wednesday, 20 April 2005 01:42 (twenty years ago)
― Kate / Productive Pedagog (papa november), Wednesday, 20 April 2005 01:49 (twenty years ago)
― Trayce (trayce), Wednesday, 20 April 2005 02:23 (twenty years ago)
― Casuistry (Chris P), Wednesday, 20 April 2005 04:03 (twenty years ago)
You may be able to do mail order.
What i want t try is some of the portugese red salt.
― Ed (dali), Wednesday, 20 April 2005 07:57 (twenty years ago)
― kacka thompson (kacka), Wednesday, 20 April 2005 08:16 (twenty years ago)
― Archel (Archel), Wednesday, 20 April 2005 08:32 (twenty years ago)
― Ed (dali), Wednesday, 20 April 2005 08:33 (twenty years ago)
― debden, Wednesday, 20 April 2005 08:42 (twenty years ago)
― bham, Wednesday, 20 April 2005 09:57 (twenty years ago)
― Chewshabadoo (Chewshabadoo), Wednesday, 20 April 2005 10:20 (twenty years ago)
― colette (a2lette), Wednesday, 20 April 2005 10:21 (twenty years ago)
― Ed (dali), Wednesday, 20 April 2005 10:22 (twenty years ago)
Coarse sea salt. I use very little at the table, but having decent stuff around for cooking is U&K.
― Liz :x (Liz :x), Wednesday, 20 April 2005 10:27 (twenty years ago)
― Trayce (trayce), Wednesday, 20 April 2005 11:16 (twenty years ago)
― kelsey (kelstarry), Wednesday, 20 April 2005 13:49 (twenty years ago)
― teeny (teeny), Wednesday, 20 April 2005 15:45 (twenty years ago)
I was gonna get some nice salt and picked up a box of Maldon, but thought I'd ask ILX if there was a better one to try... OK, going to pass out now. Thanks
― phil-two, Tuesday, 24 June 2008 06:37 (seventeen years ago)
Maldon is good. Also try Guerande Fleur de Sel and Sel Gris.
― Ed, Tuesday, 24 June 2008 06:42 (seventeen years ago)
green salt is the shiz
― S-, Tuesday, 24 June 2008 06:58 (seventeen years ago)
I like mauve salt.
― Party Sausage, Tuesday, 24 June 2008 06:59 (seventeen years ago)
I used to have a serious salt jones, but it's died down a bit in recent years. exceptions: fucking pretzels; corn on the damn cob; popcorn. These thing could never be salty enough.
S.A.L.T.
― Pillbox, Tuesday, 24 June 2008 07:10 (seventeen years ago)
Oh ffs.
http://gothamist.com/2010/11/09/doh_your_can_of_soup_is_nothing_but.php
― kenan, Tuesday, 9 November 2010 23:55 (fourteen years ago)
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― dayo, Tuesday, 9 November 2010 23:56 (fourteen years ago)
i've changed my mind about salt. i love it. that reminds me, i need to get another box of diamond kosher salt -- current one is nearing the end.
― underwear, i'm tearing you asunder (get bent), Tuesday, 9 November 2010 23:57 (fourteen years ago)
http://www.nytimes.com/2013/05/15/health/panel-finds-no-benefit-in-sharply-restricting-sodium.html?hp&_r=0
Hell Yeah
― 乒乓, Tuesday, 14 May 2013 16:51 (twelve years ago)
woohooooo
thought this was about that movie at first
― surm, Tuesday, 14 May 2013 17:35 (twelve years ago)
God I love salt. I salt everything, even pizza. It's OK though because I have low blood pressure. Mmmmmmmm salt.
― Airwrecka Bliptrap Blapmantis (ENBB), Tuesday, 14 May 2013 17:38 (twelve years ago)
omg i used to salt pizza and ppl used to give me these looks
i was like, stop, it's just salt, it's just pizza, it's not like i'm pouring lithium on my ice cream
― surm, Tuesday, 14 May 2013 17:39 (twelve years ago)
woohooooothought this was about that movie at first― surm, Tuesday, May 14, 2013 1:35 PM (8 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
― surm, Tuesday, May 14, 2013 1:35 PM (8 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
ditto. but in case my thoughts on the matter weren't clear in the other thread: go Angelina!
but also go French Fries!
― how's life, Tuesday, 14 May 2013 17:45 (twelve years ago)
i used to salt pizza. not anymore but sometimes i get the odd craving for like, seaside heights boardwalk-style big gloopy pizza slices with a generous heaping of salt
― Salt Mama Celeste (donna rouge), Tuesday, 14 May 2013 17:48 (twelve years ago)
haha didn't even realize how apropos my DN is
― surm, Tuesday, May 14, 2013 1:39 PM (15 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
THANK YOU.
People look at me like I'm insane when I do this but it is so so good. Except on time years ago I was stoned and mistook the sugar for salt and put A LOT on and that was not so good.
seaside heights boardwalk-style big gloopy pizza slices with a generous heaping of salt
WANT. YES.
― Airwrecka Bliptrap Blapmantis (ENBB), Tuesday, 14 May 2013 17:56 (twelve years ago)
i will also salt pizza. i'm out of control with mashed or baked potatoes, i need like discernible, un-dissolved salt crystals on every bite.
― precious bonsai children of new york (Jordan), Tuesday, 14 May 2013 18:06 (twelve years ago)
― 乒乓, Tuesday, May 14, 2013 12:51 PM (3 hours ago)
too much salt is still bad, guys :(
here are the authors' conclusions:
http://i40.tinypic.com/2zp59pw.png
shouldn't be shocked to see the media report poorly on public health/medical stuff after the oregon medicaid thing last week, but i also read that first study the NYT linked to - i can't say i'm exactly surprised to find that it's not such a good idea to give patients with class 2/3 heart failure, who had been hospitalized in the past month, and only 8% of whom are on a beta blocker, 500-1000 mg (!!!!) of furosemide in addition to severely restricting their sodium and fluid intake. that's not standard of care (for good reason) and not really externally valid - the authors of this new review say that in the paper as well
― 'scuse me while i make the sky cum (k3vin k.), Tuesday, 14 May 2013 20:54 (twelve years ago)
well i'll be sure never to give patients with class 2/3 heart failure who had been hospitalized for the past month and of whom only 8% are on beta blockers 500-1000 mg of furosemide, that's definitely my take away from this study
― 乒乓, Tuesday, 14 May 2013 20:58 (twelve years ago)
lol the point is that study the NYT cited (and misinterpreted) has no bearing on literally anyone in this country
less salt is still better than more salt
― 'scuse me while i make the sky cum (k3vin k.), Tuesday, 14 May 2013 21:00 (twelve years ago)
sorry i follow a strictly headline-based diet
― precious bonsai children of new york (Jordan), Tuesday, 14 May 2013 21:00 (twelve years ago)
the article is just pointing out that there's no point in adhering to the recommended 1,500 mg sodium intake when no positive benefit has been found for it compared with 2,300 mg a day sodium intake
― 乒乓, Tuesday, 14 May 2013 21:02 (twelve years ago)
for most people, 1500 probably is better than 2300. that the data are lacking doesn't mean it's not probably true. the average american eats/drinks about 3400 mg/day, so the lower the better. the issue with the article was that it asserts that there may be harms to restricting sodium past 2300, which is almost certainly not true
― 'scuse me while i make the sky cum (k3vin k.), Tuesday, 14 May 2013 21:10 (twelve years ago)
uh the article asserts that there may be potential harms and then links to studies that show the basis for thinking there may be potential harms, i really don't see what your problem is
― 乒乓, Tuesday, 14 May 2013 21:14 (twelve years ago)
i could have sworn i just made a post where i mentioned that i was familiar with the data that were linked to (unlike, i assume, the author of the NYT piece), highlighted what i thought were some limitations were, and linked to a screenshot of the conclusion of the review in question where the investigators confirmed what i'd said. i could have just dreamed that
here's what happened: we have some recommendations on dietary sodium intake from the AHA and some government agencies based on data looking at the effects of dietary sodium on surrogate measures of cardiovascular disease such as blood pressure. blood pressure outcomes are cool and all but the CDC tasked this panel with finding out whether restricting sodium below certain levels actually had an effect on mortality or heart attacks and strokes, which obviously is more important. the panel basically said "well all of this evidence really sucks, it's either really poorly designed or it looks at people who aren't like americans in terms of their diet or medical therapy. but basically more salt is bad for you, and there's not enough evidence to say whether shooting for 1500 vs 2300 is either good or bad. there are some instances where it looks like you don't want to severely restrict sodium intake, such as if you have heart failure and for whatever reason are getting ten times as much diuretic as normal people with heart failure do. but we basically agree with the current practice of eating less salt"
the AHA sees this report and basically says "yeah this isn't really anything we don't already know, everyone should definitely still consume less salt than they do now, and in the absence of evidence showing harm, we still like 1500 for a lot of people." IRL since most people get 3-4 grams of sodium a day, despite being hypertensive, going down to 2300 would be great. 1500 is a pretty tough number for most people to shoot for given their current habits. i probably eat 2-3 grams a day
― 'scuse me while i make the sky cum (k3vin k.), Tuesday, 14 May 2013 22:15 (twelve years ago)
dang, i just got owned
― 乒乓, Tuesday, 14 May 2013 22:23 (twelve years ago)
<3
― 'scuse me while i make the sky cum (k3vin k.), Tuesday, 14 May 2013 22:32 (twelve years ago)
http://www.nytimes.com/roomfordebate/2013/09/10/should-salt-have-a-place-at-the-table
oh yes
― j., Wednesday, 11 September 2013 17:02 (twelve years ago)
Oh FFS yes.
― Jeff, Wednesday, 11 September 2013 17:07 (twelve years ago)