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I love a healthy dose of salt on freshly fried pommes frites, pretzels, around the rim of a margarita glass, and then of course there's the ridiculously great salty-sweet combination. Basically I love salt when it leaps out of the food/drink and yells "This is my aesthetic, now eat it."

Otherwise I'm not so keen on salty food. It's overkill! It totally destroys whatever else is going on in the dish. I hate that cooks use it to mask the fact that their food isn't flavorful enough, instead of figuring out what ingredients/seasonings will provoke the best flavors.

Lately I've been really conservative with my use of salt, holding off on salting things until the last minute and then only using a little. I like to err on the side of understatement, but I still can't help but get a bit offended/disappointed when whoever's eating my food reaches for the salt shaker. It seems so wrong, so... inconsiderate.

Salt: C/D?

Annouschka Magnatech (Jody Beth Rosen), Tuesday, 30 September 2003 17:18 (twenty-one years ago)

i put salt on everything and lots of it.
never have me over for dinner - or vice versa

dyson (dyson), Tuesday, 30 September 2003 17:25 (twenty-one years ago)

Absolutely classic, not least because it was necessary for human survival until cheap refrigeration appeared. I'll agree with the getting the quantities right bit though. Getting an appropriate amount, just enough to enhance the flavour, but not so much as to mask it is hard; I've not completely mastered it.

i love salt preserved foods, anything salted, pickled, smoked, cheese and most methods of curing require copious quantities of salt.

Ed (dali), Tuesday, 30 September 2003 17:28 (twenty-one years ago)

warning: do not put salt in your eye

Kingfish (Kingfish), Tuesday, 30 September 2003 17:31 (twenty-one years ago)

I'm gonna have to go with DUD when it's in excess. I'm more for spices and herbs.

Francis Watlington (Francis Watlington), Tuesday, 30 September 2003 18:13 (twenty-one years ago)

but herbs an spices don't work to their full effect without salt (mostly)

Ed (dali), Tuesday, 30 September 2003 18:36 (twenty-one years ago)

You HAVE to put adequate salt into food for it to taste good. It cannot be faked with herbs/spices. Saltphobia has resulted in some bland, bland food. Salt should be added before or during cooking so that you shouldn't have to add any at the table.

fletrejet, Tuesday, 30 September 2003 18:54 (twenty-one years ago)

I hate when I see people oversalt REALLY GOOD food just instinctually, like they just expect it to be bland. I used to work in a really ridiculously nice restaurant which was run by a chef who applied salt somewhat liberally while preparing the food, and sometimes I watched these people salt the fuck out of these $30 veal chops or slabs of venison and I'm thinking "NO YOU FOOLS! THERE'S ALREADY SALT ON IT!" I guess I just figure anybody who gave a shit would taste their food before utterly drowning it in this substance.

In fact it kinda bothers me to see people put huge quantities of salt on anything, just these thoughts pop into my head like "WTF are you curing that right here? Please tell me you're not gonna put that in your mouth...oh my god you put that in your mouth! Doesn't it hurt!?!" It's not like the food doesn't have flavors of it's own, y'know.

nickalicious (nickalicious), Tuesday, 30 September 2003 19:11 (twenty-one years ago)

but herbs an spices don't work to their full effect without salt (mostly)

No, I know (rosemary + salt = one of my favorite combinations evah), but a little goes a long way.

Annouschka Magnatech (Jody Beth Rosen), Tuesday, 30 September 2003 19:13 (twenty-one years ago)

anyway the big choice

Geurande, Maldon or Trapani.

Ed (dali), Tuesday, 30 September 2003 19:16 (twenty-one years ago)

What nickalicious said, really... my big prob is with people who pour salt on things before they even take one bite. I do this with french fries because salt & pepper just taste SO GREAT on fries (with the requisite ketchup or curry or malt vinegar), but that's about the farthest I'll go.

Annouschka Magnatech (Jody Beth Rosen), Tuesday, 30 September 2003 19:17 (twenty-one years ago)

kosher

Annouschka Magnatech (Jody Beth Rosen), Tuesday, 30 September 2003 19:19 (twenty-one years ago)

You HAVE to put adequate salt into food for it to taste good. It cannot be faked with herbs/spices. Saltphobia has resulted in some bland, bland food.

This is completely mental in that you don't need that much salt if you are using other spices (I defy you to tell me that my garlic-curry-oregano-red pepper-DASH OF SALT fried chicken is bland).

Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Tuesday, 30 September 2003 19:22 (twenty-one years ago)

Oh yeah don't get my vehement Anti-Saltite stance wrong, french fries REQUIRE it's presence. I think it's just the general assumption that salty-taste will be better than sans-salt-[insert-food-here]-taste. Plus maybe because from my experience in the food service industry as well as making food at home my perspective is skewed more towards the salt-the-food-during-prep angle.

And the rims of glasses containing margaritas = TOTAL CLASSIC, but that's like so "duh" I didn't think I'd have to reiterate that.

nickalicious (nickalicious), Tuesday, 30 September 2003 19:22 (twenty-one years ago)

This is completely mental in that you don't need that much salt if you are using other spices (I defy you to tell me that my garlic-curry-oregano-red pepper-DASH OF SALT fried chicken is bland).

Just visualising this made me gain 5 pounds. And I thought I'd lost my tolerance for chicken, after eating it every which way, except dripping-blood raw.

French Fries is the only thing I DO put salt on. Since mum has high blood pressure from years of salty red herring, I try to avoid salt like the plague

Nichole Graham (Nichole Graham), Tuesday, 30 September 2003 19:30 (twenty-one years ago)

"This is completely mental in that you don't need that much salt if you are using other spices (I defy you to tell me that my garlic-curry-oregano-red pepper-DASH OF SALT fried chicken is bland)."

I said adequate salt. "Dash of salt" might be adequate in this case, I wouldn't know until I tasted your chicken. If you put NO salt in your chicken, it would be guaranteed to taste like shit. It is something that is independant of other spices and the amount that should be added has nothing to due with the rest of the spices present.

Brining does wonderful things for the taste and texture of chicken, and that operation involves a lot of salt.

fletrejet, Tuesday, 30 September 2003 20:49 (twenty-one years ago)

I had to read a 450-page book on the history of salt for world history class, so I'm a bit worn out on the concept.

Curt1s St3ph3ns, Tuesday, 30 September 2003 22:52 (twenty-one years ago)

Since mum has high blood pressure from years of salty red herring, I try to avoid salt like the plague

Last I heard (my father has hypertension) is that while salt aggravates existing hypertension, it is not actually a cause.

Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Tuesday, 30 September 2003 22:57 (twenty-one years ago)

http://store4.yimg.com/I/mex-grocer_1761_8685321

teeny (teeny), Tuesday, 30 September 2003 22:58 (twenty-one years ago)

Last I heard (my father has hypertension) is that while salt aggravates existing hypertension, it is not actually a cause.

I know, Spencer, but I figure that tis better to prevent the possibility now, than have to take pills to manage the hypertension later.

Nichole Graham (Nichole Graham), Tuesday, 30 September 2003 23:00 (twenty-one years ago)

but, I was saying that avoiding salt is not actually preventative. I say enjoy it now!

Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Tuesday, 30 September 2003 23:04 (twenty-one years ago)

Spencer is right--if you have it, you have it. My dad salts nothing at all post-cooking (and no, my mother is not a mad during-cooking-salter, she doesn't like it) and has hypertension.

Ally (mlescaut), Tuesday, 30 September 2003 23:06 (twenty-one years ago)

my grandma pours the salt onto her cooking these days..."they're not making salt as salty as they used to!"

teeny (teeny), Tuesday, 30 September 2003 23:09 (twenty-one years ago)

without it the world would be a bit dull, no?

Vic (Vic), Tuesday, 30 September 2003 23:10 (twenty-one years ago)

Spencer and Ally's diagnosis: Enjoy salt now, as time is short"

Nichole Graham (Nichole Graham), Tuesday, 30 September 2003 23:13 (twenty-one years ago)

We all gonna die anyway.

(note: I rarely salt my food, at least food that I cook myself, after preparation)

Ally (mlescaut), Tuesday, 30 September 2003 23:20 (twenty-one years ago)

Pessimistic doctors: who'd have thunk it?

Nichole Graham (Nichole Graham), Tuesday, 30 September 2003 23:22 (twenty-one years ago)

Die drowning in salt. Actually, no, that would be distressing.

I like that one huge salt dome that's down near New Orleans that the Tabasco people own, Avery Island itself -- this link talks about the history of the island (and the 'Mr. Ned' who started the company, rah!), this about said Mr. Ned himself. Clearly a man of vision and a brilliant name.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 30 September 2003 23:28 (twenty-one years ago)

Clearly a man of vision and a brilliant name.

Screams time for a 'Ned' reunion on the family tree. Course, you may only count as 'distant cousin'.

Nichole Graham (Nichole Graham), Tuesday, 30 September 2003 23:33 (twenty-one years ago)

I really do want to read that "Salt" book. And it's remaindered at Powell's... oh if only I had the time.

Chris P (Chris P), Wednesday, 1 October 2003 00:16 (twenty-one years ago)

Totally classic. Especially using the different varieties of exotic salts that are now available. I've one herbal/sea salt blend from France that is to die for.

But I only like salt in moderation, and when it is blended into the food, not as an after-thought at the table.

Excellent way to cut salt consumption: toast together sea salt and sesame seeds and use as a sprinked topping on steamed veggies ... excellent!

I'm Passing Open Windows (Ms Laura), Wednesday, 1 October 2003 03:24 (twenty-one years ago)

Read Mark Kurlansky's excellent Salt for a very readable history of this most important commodity.

Ed (dali), Wednesday, 1 October 2003 10:35 (twenty-one years ago)

I always get told off by James, for using too much salt. I have it on, mashed pot (yum), chips, veg & salad. Oh & boiled eggs, lots on them. yeah I prolly use too much. Oops, my bad?

Pinkpanther (Pinkpanther), Wednesday, 1 October 2003 10:41 (twenty-one years ago)

As a test of fletrejet's salt hypothesis, I fried some eggs last night in a tiny amount of olive oil and seasoned them with black pepper, cayenne pepper and garlic powder.

THEY WERE FANTASTIC. The "salt must always be added" hypothesis is on shaky ground. (CAVEAT: My olive oil might have had a miniscule amount of salt in it.)

Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Wednesday, 1 October 2003 12:29 (twenty-one years ago)

Autocondimentalists = dud.

Nick Southall (Nick Southall), Wednesday, 1 October 2003 12:37 (twenty-one years ago)

Beh, savoury food sucks anyway. Use sugar instead.

Andrew Farrell (afarrell), Wednesday, 1 October 2003 12:42 (twenty-one years ago)

salt is ok if not used too much - when cooking for myself i use it as an ingredient and barely ever as a condiment. i hate iodised table salt and like flaky sea salt like maldon. i had an amazing salt-crust chicken one in italy and love salt-preserved fish, especially cod - as in ackee and saltfish. the portuguese make a fabulous hash with salt cod potatoes, onions and eggs, too.

Dave Stelfox (Dave Stelfox), Wednesday, 1 October 2003 12:47 (twenty-one years ago)

Dave you are a true food-ponce.

Nick Southall (Nick Southall), Wednesday, 1 October 2003 12:53 (twenty-one years ago)

and proud - wish i could write about food and restaurants instead of music actually

Dave Stelfox (Dave Stelfox), Wednesday, 1 October 2003 13:12 (twenty-one years ago)

All I can think of is that Simpsons where it's take your kid to work day and Milhouse goes with his dad to the cracker factory and there's the guy riding the dogsled over huge mountains of salt.

NA (Nick A.), Wednesday, 1 October 2003 13:13 (twenty-one years ago)

"THEY WERE FANTASTIC. The "salt must always be added" hypothesis is on shaky ground. (CAVEAT: My olive oil might have had a miniscule amount of salt in it.)"

Shakey ground? Hardly. Your experiment did not have a control, nor was it single blind, much less double blind, as it should be.

Besides, I question the judgment of someone who fries eggs in olive oil. You fry eggs in butter.

fletrejet, Wednesday, 1 October 2003 13:38 (twenty-one years ago)

Butter often has salt added to it.

Also, I think you underestimate the amount of cayenne pepper I put on these eggs.

Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Wednesday, 1 October 2003 14:11 (twenty-one years ago)

"Butter often has salt added to it."

It would say on the package if there is salt added or not.

"Also, I think you underestimate the amount of cayenne pepper I put on these eggs."

So all you are saying is that if you put enough capsaicin onto something, it will kill your tastebuds enough to make anything palatable?

fletrejet, Wednesday, 1 October 2003 14:34 (twenty-one years ago)

Yes, that's EXACTLY what I'm saying.

http://www.abbm.org/images/photos/abbm/salt%20lick%20vertical.jpg

Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Wednesday, 1 October 2003 14:37 (twenty-one years ago)

In Britain, 'normal' butter has almost always had salt added, unless it's specifically labelled as unsalted.

caitlin (caitlin), Wednesday, 1 October 2003 14:37 (twenty-one years ago)

That's cos we banish the papists.

Ed (dali), Wednesday, 1 October 2003 14:43 (twenty-one years ago)

Also, eggs can be fried in any oil you want (butter, bacon grease, olive oil, etc) depending on what you want the final flavor to be.

It's interesting that you would think fried eggs MUST have salt added to them since you only seem to cook them one way.

Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Wednesday, 1 October 2003 14:49 (twenty-one years ago)

"Also, eggs can be fried in any oil you want (butter, bacon grease, olive oil, etc) depending on what you want the final flavor to be."

Butter and eggs go *very* well together; there are many recipes using this combination. Bacon grease is ok. Sometimes if I am making bacon I will just cook the eggs in that. Olive oil will not do anything for the flavour of eggs (and I know this from using it when I have run out of butter).

"It's interesting that you would think fried eggs MUST have salt added to them since you only seem to cook them one way."

I make them many ways. I sometimes add spices similar to what you put on yours, although probably in lesser amounts. I sometimes add fresh herbs, whatever. But if someone cooks me some eggs w/o salt, it always tastes bad and I reach for the saltshaker.

fletrejet, Wednesday, 1 October 2003 15:25 (twenty-one years ago)

http://www.abbm.org/images/photos/abbm/salt%20lick%20vertical.jpg

Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Wednesday, 1 October 2003 15:39 (twenty-one years ago)

you should avoid frying in any unsaturated fats as they break down into carcinogens. Butter, lard are best olive, walnut and sesame oil follow.

Ed (dali), Wednesday, 1 October 2003 15:53 (twenty-one years ago)

soy sauce is the new salt

Jeff-PTTL (Jeff), Tuesday, 19 April 2005 18:57 (twenty years ago)

what about bragg?!

kelsey (kelstarry), Tuesday, 19 April 2005 18:57 (twenty years ago)

remembering to put just a little bit of salt on one's sandwich before packing it up to take to work enhances the lunch hour (half-hour) like 10x

adam (adam), Tuesday, 19 April 2005 19:00 (twenty years ago)

http://photos5.flickr.com/9962184_d2f0f2eb27_m.jpg

kelsey (kelstarry), Tuesday, 19 April 2005 19:01 (twenty years ago)

http://www.memorygongs.com/bendercook.jpg

Trayce (trayce), Wednesday, 20 April 2005 01:42 (twenty years ago)

Man, salt ain't nothing. I cooked a very fancy, very expensive dish last night and my father smothered it in worcestershire sauce. I wanted to kill him.

Kate / Productive Pedagog (papa november), Wednesday, 20 April 2005 01:49 (twenty years ago)

Heh my b/f always wants to put tomato sauce all over the food I take so long to lovingly cook him :(

Trayce (trayce), Wednesday, 20 April 2005 02:23 (twenty years ago)

I was reading all about guerande salt a while back, but I haven't seen any way out here, and I assume it would be ridiculously expensive anyways, so I am bitter (instead of salty, which suits me more).

Casuistry (Chris P), Wednesday, 20 April 2005 04:03 (twenty years ago)

It's about £2.50 for 500g here,and 500g seems to last us about 4 months so it's hardly and extravagance even if it is 5 time the price of ordinary salt. The fleur de sel is more expensive of course but I prefer the sel gris, it tastes more of the sea.

You may be able to do mail order.

What i want t try is some of the portugese red salt.

Ed (dali), Wednesday, 20 April 2005 07:57 (twenty years ago)

f u

kacka thompson (kacka), Wednesday, 20 April 2005 08:16 (twenty years ago)

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/health/4461673.stm

Archel (Archel), Wednesday, 20 April 2005 08:32 (twenty years ago)

my arteries are harder than your arteries

Ed (dali), Wednesday, 20 April 2005 08:33 (twenty years ago)

in 'the conquest of new spain' by bernal diaz, our poor 16th century conquistadors find that the aztecs living in the foothills have no salt. he describes in detail the joyless meals he has to eat: meats in tomato sauce, chocolate, corn, all a worthless chore to eat without a sprinkle of salt. you can almost feel him longing for a good chorizo.

debden, Wednesday, 20 April 2005 08:42 (twenty years ago)

Maldon salt is Essex's great gift to the culinary world. That and Tiptree jam.

bham, Wednesday, 20 April 2005 09:57 (twenty years ago)

It's ALL about the Maldon

Chewshabadoo (Chewshabadoo), Wednesday, 20 April 2005 10:20 (twenty years ago)

i love salt, and probably oversalt, but whatever, i enjoy it. i should probably try some of the fancy salt that ed likes. do i have to go to a special store to get it, or will big sainsbury's have it?

colette (a2lette), Wednesday, 20 April 2005 10:21 (twenty years ago)

Maldo is too clean and white it's all about the impurities.

Ed (dali), Wednesday, 20 April 2005 10:22 (twenty years ago)

I'm confused by Kosher salt. It seems that it's just ordinary mined salt that is raked to give the desired size of crystals when drying. An odd name for a texture.

Coarse sea salt. I use very little at the table, but having decent stuff around for cooking is U&K.

Liz :x (Liz :x), Wednesday, 20 April 2005 10:27 (twenty years ago)

So ladies - who else gets massive salt cravings when PMTing? I do, I just wanna shove salty snacks into my bloated gob to paraphrase Homer. And then I really AM bloated. :/

Trayce (trayce), Wednesday, 20 April 2005 11:16 (twenty years ago)

here, here.

kelsey (kelstarry), Wednesday, 20 April 2005 13:49 (twenty years ago)

I have been craving salt so much lately that last night I had this great sex dream involving a couple of handsome fellows and I was thinking mmm what would make this even better OH I KNOW SALT so I set the dream on the seashore so that I would taste salt when I licked their adorable nipples.

teeny (teeny), Wednesday, 20 April 2005 15:45 (twenty years ago)

three years pass...

I was gonna get some nice salt and picked up a box of Maldon, but thought I'd ask ILX if there was a better one to try... OK, going to pass out now. Thanks

phil-two, Tuesday, 24 June 2008 06:37 (seventeen years ago)

Maldon is good. Also try Guerande Fleur de Sel and Sel Gris.

Ed, Tuesday, 24 June 2008 06:42 (seventeen years ago)

green salt is the shiz

S-, Tuesday, 24 June 2008 06:58 (seventeen years ago)

I like mauve salt.

Party Sausage, Tuesday, 24 June 2008 06:59 (seventeen years ago)

I used to have a serious salt jones, but it's died down a bit in recent years. exceptions: fucking pretzels; corn on the damn cob; popcorn. These thing could never be salty enough.

S.A.L.T.

Pillbox, Tuesday, 24 June 2008 07:10 (seventeen years ago)

two years pass...

Oh ffs.

http://gothamist.com/2010/11/09/doh_your_can_of_soup_is_nothing_but.php

kenan, Tuesday, 9 November 2010 23:55 (fourteen years ago)

i've changed my mind about salt. i love it. that reminds me, i need to get another box of diamond kosher salt -- current one is nearing the end.

underwear, i'm tearing you asunder (get bent), Tuesday, 9 November 2010 23:57 (fourteen years ago)

two years pass...

woohooooo

thought this was about that movie at first

surm, Tuesday, 14 May 2013 17:35 (twelve years ago)

God I love salt. I salt everything, even pizza. It's OK though because I have low blood pressure. Mmmmmmmm salt.

Airwrecka Bliptrap Blapmantis (ENBB), Tuesday, 14 May 2013 17:38 (twelve years ago)

omg i used to salt pizza and ppl used to give me these looks

i was like, stop, it's just salt, it's just pizza, it's not like i'm pouring lithium on my ice cream

surm, Tuesday, 14 May 2013 17:39 (twelve years ago)

woohooooo

thought this was about that movie at first

― surm, Tuesday, May 14, 2013 1:35 PM (8 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

ditto. but in case my thoughts on the matter weren't clear in the other thread: go Angelina!

but also go French Fries!

how's life, Tuesday, 14 May 2013 17:45 (twelve years ago)

i used to salt pizza. not anymore but sometimes i get the odd craving for like, seaside heights boardwalk-style big gloopy pizza slices with a generous heaping of salt

Salt Mama Celeste (donna rouge), Tuesday, 14 May 2013 17:48 (twelve years ago)

haha didn't even realize how apropos my DN is

Salt Mama Celeste (donna rouge), Tuesday, 14 May 2013 17:48 (twelve years ago)

omg i used to salt pizza and ppl used to give me these looks

i was like, stop, it's just salt, it's just pizza, it's not like i'm pouring lithium on my ice cream

― surm, Tuesday, May 14, 2013 1:39 PM (15 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

THANK YOU.

People look at me like I'm insane when I do this but it is so so good. Except on time years ago I was stoned and mistook the sugar for salt and put A LOT on and that was not so good.

seaside heights boardwalk-style big gloopy pizza slices with a generous heaping of salt

WANT. YES.

Airwrecka Bliptrap Blapmantis (ENBB), Tuesday, 14 May 2013 17:56 (twelve years ago)

i will also salt pizza. i'm out of control with mashed or baked potatoes, i need like discernible, un-dissolved salt crystals on every bite.

precious bonsai children of new york (Jordan), Tuesday, 14 May 2013 18:06 (twelve years ago)

http://www.nytimes.com/2013/05/15/health/panel-finds-no-benefit-in-sharply-restricting-sodium.html?hp&_r=0

Hell Yeah

― 乒乓, Tuesday, May 14, 2013 12:51 PM (3 hours ago)

too much salt is still bad, guys :(

here are the authors' conclusions:

http://i40.tinypic.com/2zp59pw.png

shouldn't be shocked to see the media report poorly on public health/medical stuff after the oregon medicaid thing last week, but i also read that first study the NYT linked to - i can't say i'm exactly surprised to find that it's not such a good idea to give patients with class 2/3 heart failure, who had been hospitalized in the past month, and only 8% of whom are on a beta blocker, 500-1000 mg (!!!!) of furosemide in addition to severely restricting their sodium and fluid intake. that's not standard of care (for good reason) and not really externally valid - the authors of this new review say that in the paper as well

'scuse me while i make the sky cum (k3vin k.), Tuesday, 14 May 2013 20:54 (twelve years ago)

well i'll be sure never to give patients with class 2/3 heart failure who had been hospitalized for the past month and of whom only 8% are on beta blockers 500-1000 mg of furosemide, that's definitely my take away from this study

乒乓, Tuesday, 14 May 2013 20:58 (twelve years ago)

lol the point is that study the NYT cited (and misinterpreted) has no bearing on literally anyone in this country

less salt is still better than more salt

'scuse me while i make the sky cum (k3vin k.), Tuesday, 14 May 2013 21:00 (twelve years ago)

sorry i follow a strictly headline-based diet

precious bonsai children of new york (Jordan), Tuesday, 14 May 2013 21:00 (twelve years ago)

the article is just pointing out that there's no point in adhering to the recommended 1,500 mg sodium intake when no positive benefit has been found for it compared with 2,300 mg a day sodium intake

乒乓, Tuesday, 14 May 2013 21:02 (twelve years ago)

for most people, 1500 probably is better than 2300. that the data are lacking doesn't mean it's not probably true. the average american eats/drinks about 3400 mg/day, so the lower the better. the issue with the article was that it asserts that there may be harms to restricting sodium past 2300, which is almost certainly not true

'scuse me while i make the sky cum (k3vin k.), Tuesday, 14 May 2013 21:10 (twelve years ago)

uh the article asserts that there may be potential harms and then links to studies that show the basis for thinking there may be potential harms, i really don't see what your problem is

乒乓, Tuesday, 14 May 2013 21:14 (twelve years ago)

i could have sworn i just made a post where i mentioned that i was familiar with the data that were linked to (unlike, i assume, the author of the NYT piece), highlighted what i thought were some limitations were, and linked to a screenshot of the conclusion of the review in question where the investigators confirmed what i'd said. i could have just dreamed that

here's what happened: we have some recommendations on dietary sodium intake from the AHA and some government agencies based on data looking at the effects of dietary sodium on surrogate measures of cardiovascular disease such as blood pressure. blood pressure outcomes are cool and all but the CDC tasked this panel with finding out whether restricting sodium below certain levels actually had an effect on mortality or heart attacks and strokes, which obviously is more important. the panel basically said "well all of this evidence really sucks, it's either really poorly designed or it looks at people who aren't like americans in terms of their diet or medical therapy. but basically more salt is bad for you, and there's not enough evidence to say whether shooting for 1500 vs 2300 is either good or bad. there are some instances where it looks like you don't want to severely restrict sodium intake, such as if you have heart failure and for whatever reason are getting ten times as much diuretic as normal people with heart failure do. but we basically agree with the current practice of eating less salt"

the AHA sees this report and basically says "yeah this isn't really anything we don't already know, everyone should definitely still consume less salt than they do now, and in the absence of evidence showing harm, we still like 1500 for a lot of people." IRL since most people get 3-4 grams of sodium a day, despite being hypertensive, going down to 2300 would be great. 1500 is a pretty tough number for most people to shoot for given their current habits. i probably eat 2-3 grams a day

'scuse me while i make the sky cum (k3vin k.), Tuesday, 14 May 2013 22:15 (twelve years ago)

dang, i just got owned

乒乓, Tuesday, 14 May 2013 22:23 (twelve years ago)

<3

'scuse me while i make the sky cum (k3vin k.), Tuesday, 14 May 2013 22:32 (twelve years ago)

three months pass...

http://www.nytimes.com/roomfordebate/2013/09/10/should-salt-have-a-place-at-the-table

oh yes

j., Wednesday, 11 September 2013 17:02 (twelve years ago)

Oh FFS yes.

Jeff, Wednesday, 11 September 2013 17:07 (twelve years ago)


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