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Aged 43. He's currently on a respirator in a Buenos Aires hospital.

― Fred Nerk (Fred Nerk), Monday, 19 April 2004 05:42 (twenty-one years ago)

i'm hearing the opening riff of "cocaine" in my head just now

― duke area, Monday, 19 April 2004 05:48 (twenty-one years ago)

b-b-but she does so much yoga?

― JaXoN (JasonD), Monday, 19 April 2004 05:55 (twenty-one years ago)

His Lotus Position is more like a Road-Train Position.

― Fred Nerk (Fred Nerk), Monday, 19 April 2004 06:21 (twenty-one years ago)

Reading between the lines, this looks pretty serious. His condition is described as 'unstable'. Not often you hear that.

― Mikey G (Mikey G), Monday, 19 April 2004 11:26 (twenty-one years ago)

This man was playing World Cup football and still scoring goals ten years ago.

― Matt DC (Matt DC), Monday, 19 April 2004 11:30 (twenty-one years ago)

as well as being gakked up to the eyeballs

― chris (chris), Monday, 19 April 2004 11:32 (twenty-one years ago)

My favourite Maradona quote (talking about playing a charity game at the age of 40 and having no power to shoot), "it's like sleeping with your sister. You can go so far, and then, no."

― Mikey G (Mikey G), Monday, 19 April 2004 11:33 (twenty-one years ago)

Yes, that too.

If he dies, something tells me he'll have "Greatest footballer ever and much better than that homosexual Pele" on his headstone. Which will be twelve feet tall.

― Matt DC (Matt DC), Monday, 19 April 2004 11:33 (twenty-one years ago)

http://news.bbc.co.uk/media/images/40055000/jpg/_40055147_2000getty.jpg

This is taken from the BBC site. They're not taking this wholly seriously, are they?

― Matt DC (Matt DC), Monday, 19 April 2004 11:38 (twenty-one years ago)

he looks like Shane Warne's idiot brother in that photo

― chris (chris), Monday, 19 April 2004 11:39 (twenty-one years ago)

It'll be a real pisser if he does die, because he is the best footballer ever, no question. What's the reasoning behind FIFA pretending he's not? Is it just that he's not the image that they want to project to those all important American and Far East markets? Or is Pele getting them impotence treatment on the cheap?

― Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Monday, 19 April 2004 11:40 (twenty-one years ago)

or that he's not John Charles or Ferenc Puskas

― chris (chris), Monday, 19 April 2004 11:41 (twenty-one years ago)

Or Christian Dailly.

― Mikey G (Mikey G), Monday, 19 April 2004 11:44 (twenty-one years ago)

Or Neil Grayson.

― Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Monday, 19 April 2004 11:44 (twenty-one years ago)

Neil Grayson is probably the player I admire the most. This is no lie.

― Dave B (daveb), Monday, 19 April 2004 11:53 (twenty-one years ago)

Is that because of the "shut that door!" goal celebration he did once?

― Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Monday, 19 April 2004 11:55 (twenty-one years ago)

I read this thread as "Madonna heart attack". You see what you want to see, I suppose.

― Rob Bolton (Rob Bolton), Monday, 19 April 2004 12:11 (twenty-one years ago)

i don't like the irony of being on a respirator at Buenos Aires

― ken c (ken c), Monday, 19 April 2004 12:24 (twenty-one years ago)

Is it just that he's not the image that they want to project to those all important American and Far East markets?

You got it there, they don't want a 5'4", 12 stone cokehead - Pele's more photogenic

― Dadaismus (Dada), Monday, 19 April 2004 12:24 (twenty-one years ago)

''It'll be a real pisser if he does die, because he is the best footballer ever, no question.''

has anyone seen both pele and maradona play? can you compare both anyway?

― Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Monday, 19 April 2004 12:40 (twenty-one years ago)

Not in the flesh but I do think Maradona was better

― Dadaismus (Dada), Monday, 19 April 2004 12:44 (twenty-one years ago)

I am better than both of them

― Thierry Henry (at Julios) (daveb), Monday, 19 April 2004 12:45 (twenty-one years ago)

The rote arguement for Maradona being the best player ever is that he won both the World Cup and Serie A on his own.

Discuss.

― Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Monday, 19 April 2004 12:50 (twenty-one years ago)

I've never seen Maradona play a whole game and I've only seen Pele walk about the pitch very slowly in the rather boring "classic" 1970 England game which they repeated on telly during the 2002 WC.

Di Stefano and Cruyff are normally the names bandied about after Pele and Maradona. Personally, Zidane is the best player I've seen, but I've only been watching football for about 13 years.

― Nick H (Nick H), Monday, 19 April 2004 12:52 (twenty-one years ago)

Agree on Zidane

― Dadaismus (Dada), Monday, 19 April 2004 12:54 (twenty-one years ago)

FIFA will never talk about Cruyff either as he's too "awkward" so he'll never be their posterboy, going back to great publicist Pele.

― chris (chris), Monday, 19 April 2004 12:57 (twenty-one years ago)

The big problem with Pele is that he turned out to such a pompous egotist, ugh.

― Dadaismus (Dada), Monday, 19 April 2004 13:00 (twenty-one years ago)

and that's not a problem with maradona

― ken c (ken c), Monday, 19 April 2004 13:01 (twenty-one years ago)

If Platini gets the FIFA President job, do you reckon he may get "promoted" in these lists?

― Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Monday, 19 April 2004 13:02 (twenty-one years ago)

I hope he does - on both counts

― Dadaismus (Dada), Monday, 19 April 2004 13:03 (twenty-one years ago)

Maybe it's because Pele is the only one who isn't awkward or very much tied to a single club, like Di Stefano or Beckenbauer. Also because he's good for a "football is love"-type soundbite.

― Nick H (Nick H), Monday, 19 April 2004 13:05 (twenty-one years ago)

Maradona in his first two seasons with Boca in the early eighties. Just the greatest.

― Mikey G (Mikey G), Monday, 19 April 2004 13:06 (twenty-one years ago)

best footballer you've seen play in the flesh (ie NOT on TV)

― stevem (blueski), Monday, 19 April 2004 13:06 (twenty-one years ago)

''The rote arguement for Maradona being the best player ever is that he won both the World Cup and Serie A on his own.''

I'm just wondering bcz I've never seen a game by either. But yeah, winning the seria A was quite an achievement.

x-post

― Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Monday, 19 April 2004 13:12 (twenty-one years ago)

Defenders are always incredibly unfashionable whenever these lists roll out - whither Maldini?

― Matt DC (Matt DC), Monday, 19 April 2004 13:13 (twenty-one years ago)

Maldini won't get into these lists until a good five years after he retires, because nobody is going to treat him as one of the greatest of all time while he continues playing at his current level ability, which could best be described as "zombie". Wait till the memories of that all die down, and then he'll be ranked.

He's not as good as Baresi or Gentile, anyway.

― Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Monday, 19 April 2004 13:15 (twenty-one years ago)

Beckenbauer (admittedly a Libero, but it's close enough). Baresi too.

― Mikey G (Mikey G), Monday, 19 April 2004 13:16 (twenty-one years ago)

Baresi was just fucking awesome.

― Sick Nouthall (Nick Southall), Monday, 19 April 2004 13:16 (twenty-one years ago)

Moore? Sammer?

― Nick H (Nick H), Monday, 19 April 2004 13:18 (twenty-one years ago)

Also, does being dead make you a better footballer in the eyes of the public, like with rock stars?

― Nick H (Nick H), Monday, 19 April 2004 13:19 (twenty-one years ago)

Yes.

― Sick Nouthall (Nick Southall), Monday, 19 April 2004 13:19 (twenty-one years ago)

Not Bobby Moore for sure, what a donkey

― Dadaismus (Dada), Monday, 19 April 2004 13:21 (twenty-one years ago)

There are staggeringly few dead "great" footballers though. I mean... Moore, Yashin, Charles... is Just Fontaine still around?

― Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Monday, 19 April 2004 13:22 (twenty-one years ago)

Oh, Matthews, obviously. Is Giuseppe Meazza dead?

― Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Monday, 19 April 2004 13:22 (twenty-one years ago)

Florian Albert?

― Dadaismus (Dada), Monday, 19 April 2004 13:23 (twenty-one years ago)

he's still alive, or was when that history of footie thing was made last year or so (actually, he may have died before it was released as there was an obit at the end of pne prog)

― chris (chris), Monday, 19 April 2004 13:23 (twenty-one years ago)

Pele is a corporate cocksucker. He's part of the Havelunch mafia, and pele is their posterboy because he does nothing to rock the boat with respect to FIFA. Unlike Maradona, who despite being a screaming egomaniac, realsies that he was put on the earth for much more than being the corporate mouth piece of the men who stole the game.

x-post Meazza, Milano defender are you straight or are you gay?

xxpost - Neil Grayson was the archetypal honest footballer - no airs and graces, normal guy, always gave his best, never quit and was an excellent footballer in the lower reaches. A man who knew his dreams outstipped his reality, but toiled in that reality with honour and selflessness.

― Dave B (daveb), Monday, 19 April 2004 13:24 (twenty-one years ago)

favourite Maradona moment (biased wrt WC86): his celebration and facial expression after scoring a glorious goal against Greece at World Cup '94. never mind that a week later he was kicked out for drug-taking, causing him to make a somewhat cryptic and very memorable (for me) remark about 'the powers that be cannot be trusted, all i have left is my family and my friends'. i think he was actually talking about God and not FIFA but hard to tell.

― stevem (blueski), Monday, 19 April 2004 13:30 (twenty-one years ago)

Is Puskas still alive?

There are so many supposedly great players I've never actually seen play beyond the odd clip - Platini, Beckenbauer, Best, Cruyff, Pele - Maradona was among the earliest I remember seeing play when he was at his peak.

― Matt DC (Matt DC), Monday, 19 April 2004 13:31 (twenty-one years ago)

I'm amazed loads of this stuff isn't floating round the net, to be honest.

Anyone remember Baddiel and Skinner's 'Pele Was Crap' slot on Fantasy Football League? One clip a week of atrocious Pele fuckups.

― Matt DC (Matt DC), Monday, 19 April 2004 13:32 (twenty-one years ago)

The story about why Maradona believes that he's a chosen representative of God on this planet is brilliant...

― Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Monday, 19 April 2004 13:32 (twenty-one years ago)

It was "Pele was shit". "Pele was shit, Pele was shit, he was worse than Jason Lee".

― Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Monday, 19 April 2004 13:35 (twenty-one years ago)

one week they changed it to 'Rivelino was shit'. but this was not true.

― stevem (blueski), Monday, 19 April 2004 13:44 (twenty-one years ago)

to the tune of 'Back Home'. classic.

― stevem (blueski), Monday, 19 April 2004 13:45 (twenty-one years ago)

The story about why Maradona believes that he's a chosen representative of God on this planet is brilliant...

Teach this American...

― ModJ (ModJ), Monday, 19 April 2004 13:53 (twenty-one years ago)

heh, that reminds me of Richard Blackwood saying the same thing about Michael Jackson

― stevem (blueski), Monday, 19 April 2004 13:55 (twenty-one years ago)

So the story goes, when Maradona was around 11 or 12, he was out playing football, kicking a ball about, on his own. Due to some circumstances or other he falls into a cesspit. So he's there, drowning in shit, without a chance of getting out, when, due to some coincidence, his uncle happens to be walking by, and pulls him out of the cesspit. Maradona believes this happened because he's "blessed".

― Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Monday, 19 April 2004 13:59 (twenty-one years ago)

*blinks*

― ModJ (ModJ), Monday, 19 April 2004 14:06 (twenty-one years ago)

garincha innit.

― cozen (Cozen), Monday, 19 April 2004 14:11 (twenty-one years ago)

Neil Grayson seemed a flair player when I watched him play, which surprisingly was more than once.

― the bellefox, Monday, 19 April 2004 14:13 (twenty-one years ago)

That tale of Maradona in the cesspit is from the Jimmy Burns autobiography. A cracking read (as is his book on Barcelona).

Neil Grayson in the Maradona thread!

― Mikey G (Mikey G), Monday, 19 April 2004 14:29 (twenty-one years ago)

The book on Barca suffers from really rubbish editing IMO; football books will be read by football fans, who have a tendency to use knowledge of key issues and facts in a club's history as proxies for empathy and engagement with the cubject. Getting things wrong (like the date when they signed Cruyff) makes you question the rest (even though in truth you suspect it's just a mistake, it make you think the rest is suspect too.

― Dave B (daveb), Monday, 19 April 2004 15:07 (twenty-one years ago)

I think it just dribbled past the fact checkers. Most of the Barca book is common knowledge anyway. The Maradona book was unauthorised and several people went out of their way to make it difficult for him. Still better than Soy, Diego! A lesser ego at play.

― Mikey G (Mikey G), Monday, 19 April 2004 15:20 (twenty-one years ago)

one year passes...

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/americas/4155754.stm

Argentine football hero Diego Maradona has traded headers and talked about drugs with Brazilian legend Pele as he begins life as a TV presenter.

Pele, regarded as the greatest player of all time, joined a host of stars on Maradona's new two-hour TV show.

Maradona, a recovering cocaine addict, talked about drugs with Pele, whose son has been jailed for drugs offences.

Maradona looked slim and healthy after an operation to staple his stomach, aimed at cutting his ballooning weight.

Fellow Argentine footballer Gabriel Batistuta, the country's leading international goal scorer, and tennis star Gabriela Sabatini joined Pele for Maradona's first programme.

He co-hosted with Sergio Goycochea, the goalkeeper in Maradona's 1990 World Cup side, which lost to West Germany in the final.

The show is called La Noche del Diez - The Night of Ten - in reference to the number 10 shirt Maradona wore for the national side.

Maradona and Pele, who have rarely seen eye-to-eye, swapped national shirts and headed a football to each other as Maradona's new career began with goodwill wishes from his guests.

Both took to the stage: Pele playing guitar and singing a song he composed himself and Maradona singing an Argentine tango about football.

Pele praised Maradona for offering an example of how to beat addiction, calling him an inspiration for his jailed son.
"You are an example for him because you are a conqueror," he said.

"Your programme is going out to the world, and I think together we can do many things in the world to help a lot of people."

Maradona looked emotional as he thanked his family and friends for helping him rebuild his life after a series of health scares.

Once hailed as the greatest player of his generation, Maradona captained Argentina to World Cup glory in 1986, but saw his career undermined by cocaine addiction during his days playing for Napoli in Italy.

Pele, revered everywhere apart from Argentina as the greatest footballer of all time, also played in the fabled number 10 shirt.

At a news conference after the show, Maradona neatly side-stepped the question of who was the better footballer.

"My mother says it was me and Pele's mother says it was him," the Argentine said.

― Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Tuesday, 16 August 2005 14:32 (twenty years ago)

It was Diego.

― Adam In Real Life (nordicskilla), Tuesday, 16 August 2005 14:55 (twenty years ago)

I'd pick maradona too...but then i've not really seen as much Pele.

― Last Of The Famous International Pfunkboys (Kerr), Tuesday, 16 August 2005 14:56 (twenty years ago)

The big problem with Pele is that he turned out to such a pompous egotist, ugh.

Well, Lance Armstrong is an arrogant bastard, but he still wins. Actually that's a bad comparison. What does one's personality have to do with one's talent? Pele was the best. :-)

― nathalie starts to cry each time we meet (stevie nixed), Tuesday, 16 August 2005 14:59 (twenty years ago)

I'm old enough to have seen lots of both, and for me it's Pele by a long way.

― Martin Skidmore (Martin Skidmore), Tuesday, 16 August 2005 15:17 (twenty years ago)

it's zinedine zidane

― ken c (ken c), Tuesday, 16 August 2005 15:20 (twenty years ago)

one year passes...

I just bought a DVD of the 1960 European Cup Final so I'm having money on Puskas. There's a Youtube clip of his rolled-under-the-foot-then-WHAM goal against England at Wembley. Awesome!

― Sick Mouthy (Nick Southall), Monday, 15 January 2007 14:13 (nineteen years ago)

Maradona > Puskas > Pele > Cruyff > Best

― Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Monday, 15 January 2007 14:26 (nineteen years ago)

You forgot David Hirst.

― Sick Mouthy (Nick Southall), Monday, 15 January 2007 14:28 (nineteen years ago)

Who's the best Libero/sweeper ever? Beckenbauer? Passarella? The latter strikes me as a more interesting character than the former, which is saying something. Scoring rate of about 1 in 2 as well.

― Sick Mouthy (Nick Southall), Monday, 15 January 2007 14:30 (nineteen years ago)

Gaetano Scirea

― Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Monday, 15 January 2007 14:32 (nineteen years ago)

Wiki tells me Passarella got 1 in 3 when at River Plate. Did Scirea ever refuse to pick a player for the World Cup while managing the national team on the basis that they had long hair and thus looked gay?

― Sick Mouthy (Nick Southall), Monday, 15 January 2007 14:33 (nineteen years ago)

He didn't really get a chance to, he died one season after retiring.

― Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Monday, 15 January 2007 14:33 (nineteen years ago)

Shit, just read that on Wiki. Car crash in Poland with a load of gas cannisters in the car. Bizarre.

― Sick Mouthy (Nick Southall), Monday, 15 January 2007 14:41 (nineteen years ago)

My guess is he'd have ended up at least manager of Juventus by the mid 90s, and possibly could have been Italian national manager by some point as well.

― Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Monday, 15 January 2007 14:41 (nineteen years ago)

Uli Stielike was a pretty good sweeper, but you can't see past Franco Baresi IMO

― JohnFoxxsJuno (JohnFoxxsJuno), Monday, 15 January 2007 16:10 (nineteen years ago)

one year passes...

Assistant manager of Argentina or manager?

― Pfunkboy Formerly Known As... (Herman G. Neuname), Tuesday, 28 October 2008 20:59 (seventeen years ago)

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/7696408.stm

― Pfunkboy Formerly Known As... (Herman G. Neuname), Tuesday, 28 October 2008 22:49 (seventeen years ago)

the appointment of Maradona as coach of Argentina is intriguing. my analysis of the decision would actually run extremely close to my critique of Robinho's move to Man City

― men in denim build this country (Roberto Spiralli), Tuesday, 28 October 2008 22:56 (seventeen years ago)

Helluva drug.

― Carrie Bradshaw Layfield (The stickman from the hilarious 'xkcd' comics), Tuesday, 28 October 2008 23:01 (seventeen years ago)

Can't be worse than the last two coaches, Pekerman who managed to get the amazing side they had knocked out of the 2006 World Cup in the Quarter-finals and Basile who managed to lose to Chile, which had never happened in a competitive match before (and was awesome).

― what U cry 4 (jim), Tuesday, 28 October 2008 23:02 (seventeen years ago)

Hoax by Gordon Smith to attract crowds to Scotland's crap friendly against them next month that no-one wants to go to.

― ailsa, Tuesday, 28 October 2008 23:07 (seventeen years ago)

I was actually thinking about going to that, then I heard Messi won't be coming, and then I remembered I was going on holiday two days before that.

― what U cry 4 (jim), Tuesday, 28 October 2008 23:09 (seventeen years ago)

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The Pekermen team is probably one of the five best to have never won a World Cup. Just unbelievable talent that got f'd in the a by the first team it took on who understood counter-attacks.

― Carrie Bradshaw Layfield (The stickman from the hilarious 'xkcd' comics), Tuesday, 28 October 2008 23:18 (seventeen years ago)

Maradona managing Argentina is like Gazza managing England, except with better players and more organized crime.

― men in denim build this country (Roberto Spiralli), Tuesday, 28 October 2008 23:54 (seventeen years ago)

A car crash waiting to happen you mean

― Pfunkboy Formerly Known As... (Herman G. Neuname), Tuesday, 28 October 2008 23:55 (seventeen years ago)

lol, Clarín.com, website of one of the biggest papers in Argentina:

Are you in agreement with the appointment of Maradona as the manager of the national team?

42,018 votes.

Yes: 26.1% (10,967)
No: 73.9% (31,051)

― what U cry 4 (jim), Wednesday, 29 October 2008 00:07 (seventeen years ago)

two weeks pass...

my dad just phoned me to say walked by Diego Armando, sitting at the front of the Argentina team bus that was parked outside the Radisson in Glasgow. The door was opened so my dad shouted "Diego Armando, sos barbaro!" in a faux-Argentinian accent at him.

― what U cry 4 (jim), Monday, 17 November 2008 18:07 (seventeen years ago)

and one of the backroom staff had a hearty chuckle.

― what U cry 4 (jim), Monday, 17 November 2008 18:07 (seventeen years ago)

terrible news. divorce stress, i suppose?

― omar little, Monday, 17 November 2008 18:10 (seventeen years ago)

epic win today from the wee man re: Terry Butcher possibly going to snub him because of the Hand of God incident: http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/internationals/7736200.stm

"I don't understand why Butcher has this attitude," said Maradona ... "England won a World Cup with a goal that never crossed the line, so it's not fair that people should judge me."

― what U cry 4 (jim), Tuesday, 18 November 2008 20:30 (seventeen years ago)

lol Butcher, the only person in Scotland who wouldn't want to shake the Hand Of God

― zappi, Tuesday, 18 November 2008 20:43 (seventeen years ago)

Butcher's being a total twat, and he might want to remember where he is and who is paying his wages.

― ailsa, Tuesday, 18 November 2008 20:44 (seventeen years ago)

four months pass...

http://www.goal.com/en/news/1648/wcq-south-america/2009/04/01/1186941/bolivia-absolutely-slaughter-argentina-in-la-paz

― Blackout Crew are the Beatles of donk (jim), Wednesday, 1 April 2009 22:03 (sixteen years ago)

― Zayatte Mondatta (country matters), Wednesday, 1 April 2009 22:08 (sixteen years ago)

eleven months pass...

Reports: Maradona Is Bitten by His Dog

― Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 30 March 2010 15:20 (fifteen years ago)

one month passes...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tVukZ5VkdPw

― Thaksin Albert Shinawatra (jim in glasgow), Thursday, 20 May 2010 17:42 (fifteen years ago)

seven years pass...

Wonder if he ever got that aorta'd

― jk rowling obituary thread (darraghmac), Monday, 17 July 2017 22:03 (eight years ago)

i thought this said madonna heart attack

― ein Sexmonster (Jimmy The Mod Awaits The Return Of His Beloved), Monday, 17 July 2017 22:25 (eight years ago)

He had some jolly old artery hard hars in his time!

― calzino, Monday, 17 July 2017 22:52 (eight years ago)

two years pass...

maradona hasn't died!

i just watched the diego maradona doc on friday and it's very good and you should watch it if you are interested in diego maradoan. focuses almost exclusively on his years at napoli - which is effective as it encompasses the highs (first scudetto with napoli, 1986 world cup triumph) and lows (injury, drug bans, world cup 1990 defeat, becoming the most hated man in italy) of his career and his descent into addiction

― ت (jim in vancouver), Tuesday, 5 November 2019 18:48 (six years ago)

eleven months pass...

Happy 60th to Diego Armando Maradona – football's greatest trainer.

This time it's 1994 and Diego needs to prepare for the World Cup. He's headed for a Buenos Aires cattle farm, of course.pic.twitter.com/kIhLISW8iQ
— The Blizzard (@blzzrd) October 30, 2020

― cajunsunday, Friday, 30 October 2020 08:34 (five years ago)

three weeks pass...

RIP D10S

― 好 now 烧烤 (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Wednesday, 25 November 2020 16:33 (five years ago)

Has it been confirmed?

― pomenitul, Wednesday, 25 November 2020 16:35 (five years ago)

https://www.joe.co.uk/news/diego-maradona-dies-aged-60-257103

― nashwan, Wednesday, 25 November 2020 16:35 (five years ago)

goodbye england's rose

― imago, Wednesday, 25 November 2020 16:35 (five years ago)

Damn RIP Madonna!

― fleet doxes (map), Wednesday, 25 November 2020 16:36 (five years ago)

So it is true then. RIP.

― pomenitul, Wednesday, 25 November 2020 16:36 (five years ago)

a grotesque and horrible man, but jeez what an absolute force as a player and I got paid back for lolling at the hand of God when the RoI got done the same way by Henry!

― calzino, Wednesday, 25 November 2020 16:38 (five years ago)

Rip

― spruce springclean (darraghmac), Wednesday, 25 November 2020 16:40 (five years ago)

RIP. Hard to believe he was only 60.

― ILXceptionalism (Tom D.), Wednesday, 25 November 2020 16:43 (five years ago)

BBC keeping a disrespectful silence so far.

― ILXceptionalism (Tom D.), Wednesday, 25 November 2020 16:45 (five years ago)

RIP Greatest

― Master of Treacle, Wednesday, 25 November 2020 16:51 (five years ago)

rip. his goals against england in '86 feel like foundational memories to me. remember getting some stick at school for going on and on about the 2nd impossible goal. used to sign video game high scores D.A.M for years and years afterwards. so glad noodle vague nudged me towards the maradona doc. that was on tv at the start of lockdown1.

― oscar bravo, Wednesday, 25 November 2020 16:57 (five years ago)

getting the urge to go out in the garden with shoelaces undone 'life is life' blaring out and wellying the ball a mile into the air and controlling it perfectly on its return.

― oscar bravo, Wednesday, 25 November 2020 17:02 (five years ago)

Sounds good to me.

― ILXceptionalism (Tom D.), Wednesday, 25 November 2020 17:03 (five years ago)

Too sad, what a superstar

― or something, Wednesday, 25 November 2020 17:03 (five years ago)

so fucking effortlessly good at his trade in a way that so few are

he treated lesser mortals with absolute disdain, which I always like in my legends

RIP

― Clean-up on ILX (onimo), Wednesday, 25 November 2020 17:27 (five years ago)

There was a passion for the sport and for life in the way he played that was an existential slap in the face. RIP.

― Van Horn Street, Wednesday, 25 November 2020 17:41 (five years ago)

― xyzzzz__, Wednesday, 25 November 2020 17:47 (five years ago)

RIP to the greatest. Maradona in the 1990 World Cup is one of my earliest footballing memories (although I don't remember him being particularly good in the tournament I was aware of him as a legendary figure)

also a despicable bastard off the pitch.

recommend the documentary from a couple of years back to anyone interested.

― Politically homely (jim in vancouver), Wednesday, 25 November 2020 18:30 (five years ago)

Nothing sums up Maradona better than the streets of Naples. Every working-class district has its homage to him, decades after he left Napoli. The People’s Champ. pic.twitter.com/h59tfVqZBH
— Ronan Burtenshaw (@ronanburtenshaw) November 25, 2020

― scampus fugit (gyac), Wednesday, 25 November 2020 19:17 (five years ago)

RIP

― Fizzles, Wednesday, 25 November 2020 20:00 (five years ago)

weirdly I was watching the live is life keepy-uppy video on Friday, apropos of nothing

― Politically homely (jim in vancouver), Wednesday, 25 November 2020 20:18 (five years ago)

Incredible content

He made the first Gaelic football goal in a regular football match. We won’t forget. #ripdiego pic.twitter.com/h6gOoOE6Py
— ArgentinaGAA (@ArgentinaGaa) November 25, 2020

― scampus fugit (gyac), Wednesday, 25 November 2020 21:19 (five years ago)

the problem was after years of us taking the piss out of the English about the hand of god - the RoI got done by le main of frog. Life comes right back at you like that sometimes!

― calzino, Wednesday, 25 November 2020 21:25 (five years ago)

Och, he was just copying Joe Jordan's goal against the Welsh in 1977. And then Archie Gemmill's against the Dutch in '78.

― ILXceptionalism (Tom D.), Wednesday, 25 November 2020 21:28 (five years ago)

xp enjoy the “us” here!

― scampus fugit (gyac), Wednesday, 25 November 2020 21:30 (five years ago)

well I do identify as Irish even though i'm not really but I'm definitely more Irish most of Boston!

― calzino, Wednesday, 25 November 2020 21:34 (five years ago)

And I could get an Irish passport lol - like I'd ever get the chance to use it!

― calzino, Wednesday, 25 November 2020 21:36 (five years ago)

anyway I thought Maradonna's behaviour at the last World cup finals was abhorrent, and I'm not going to pretend I liked him as a person - he was fucking horrible.

― calzino, Wednesday, 25 November 2020 21:38 (five years ago)

Rest in peace Diego Maradona.

Football legend, voice for the voiceless and campaigner for the Left in Latin America. https://t.co/lczVXe3IG9
— Jeremy Corbyn (@jeremycorbyn) November 25, 2020

― xyzzzz__, Wednesday, 25 November 2020 21:46 (five years ago)

Love how his QT-ing US soccer lol

― xyzzzz__, Wednesday, 25 November 2020 21:47 (five years ago)

really enjoying all the Maradona writing and videos https://t.co/jEwHcXaU16
— Alex Press (@alexnpress) November 25, 2020

― xyzzzz__, Wednesday, 25 November 2020 21:53 (five years ago)

Long live Diego! pic.twitter.com/CuIfhN7FPE
— Lowkey (@Lowkey0nline) November 25, 2020

― xyzzzz__, Wednesday, 25 November 2020 21:57 (five years ago)

Earlier today I was talking to an American friend – one who admittedly cares little for sports in general – and he'd never heard of Maradona. I have no idea why it came as a surprise – it makes perfect sense.

― pomenitul, Wednesday, 25 November 2020 21:59 (five years ago)

Lol

pic.twitter.com/y4Bwq6375a
— Ilyas Nagdee (@ilyas_nagdee) November 25, 2020

― xyzzzz__, Wednesday, 25 November 2020 22:10 (five years ago)

Dual-wielding those watches.

― pomenitul, Wednesday, 25 November 2020 22:13 (five years ago)

he's going to be lying in state in the casa rosada tomorrow. can't imagine they won't hit a million people paying their respects.

― Politically homely (jim in vancouver), Wednesday, 25 November 2020 22:21 (five years ago)

In 1984 Diego Maradona asked Napoli & Fifa to arrange a friendly in order to help an ill child. Both refused.

Maradona then organised a 12 v 12 game on the field opposite the child's house.

4,000 people attended the game...pic.twitter.com/OGfoX2fIAq
— The Blizzard (@blzzrd) October 12, 2020

― xyzzzz__, Wednesday, 25 November 2020 22:38 (five years ago)

this goal never gets old

Maradona scored this goal in 1986 World Cup against England which was voted “The Goal of the Century” 🥅

The God of Dribbling. RIP. #GOAT pic.twitter.com/9jE5cuVQf0
— Nigel D'Souza (@Nigel__DSouza) November 25, 2020

― cajunsunday, Wednesday, 25 November 2020 22:39 (five years ago)

I’m not on cartoon duty until next week, but here’s something I drew a couple of years ago, depicting Maradona skipping through the entirety of English history to score his second goal. pic.twitter.com/ZTnYroRCCL
— David Squires (@squires_david) November 25, 2020

― nashwan, Wednesday, 25 November 2020 22:40 (five years ago)

I think being accused of being an England fan on a dead Maradona thread is new low for me tbh!

― calzino, Wednesday, 25 November 2020 22:44 (five years ago)

Funnily enough I hadn't heard the Argentine commentary on the Maradona's goal till I saw Kapadia's (flawed, imo) doc last year. Just incredible (even for Spanish/South American commentators, who are just the best)

― xyzzzz__, Wednesday, 25 November 2020 23:15 (five years ago)

the doc was flawed but some great footage. the opening sequence is exhilarating

― Politically homely (jim in vancouver), Wednesday, 25 November 2020 23:25 (five years ago)

Minute's silence at Sparta Prague v Celtic lasted about 10 seconds.

Wankers.

― Clean-up on ILX (onimo), Thursday, 26 November 2020 17:57 (five years ago)

He’s not quick, more like a short-legged bull, but he carries the ball sewn to his foot and he’s got eyes all over his body.

Fucking love this line from that Nation article linked above btw. Lots made of his strength, balance, low centre of gravity and close control but you don't get to be the best 10 without the eyes everywhere.

Sometimes those eyes were out on stalks mind...

― Clean-up on ILX (onimo), Thursday, 26 November 2020 18:05 (five years ago)

Somebody posted some clips on Facebook last night and I've certainly never seen anyone find so many inventive ways to nutmeg opponents.

― ILXceptionalism (Tom D.), Thursday, 26 November 2020 18:12 (five years ago)

That one time Fidel gave Maradona his jacket pic.twitter.com/s3GDsrSHyO
— Anya Parampil (@anyaparampil) November 25, 2020

― xyzzzz__, Thursday, 26 November 2020 20:56 (five years ago)

Cool tyrants bro.

Hope no one in your entourage has been jailed for being a homosexual.

― Van Horn Street, Thursday, 26 November 2020 22:32 (five years ago)

fuck off

― reggae kraftwerk (||||||||), Thursday, 26 November 2020 22:43 (five years ago)

"Diego scored a goal that was stratospheric and another in which he cheated. And that is the best example of a phrase that gets used so often and in moments less appropriate than this: he was above good and evil."

https://amp.theguardian.com/football/2020/nov/26/maradona-the-footballer-had-no-flaws-maradona-the-man-was-a-victim?

― xyzzzz__, Thursday, 26 November 2020 23:29 (five years ago)

in conclusion, fuck VAR.

― reggae kraftwerk (||||||||), Thursday, 26 November 2020 23:34 (five years ago)

I know Kusturica is dodgy but this is the other doc on Diego.

Kusturica's documentary on Maradona: "They wanted me to meet Charles of England. No. I would never shake his hand. Not with all that blood on it."
— Juliet. (@zinovievletter) November 27, 2020

― xyzzzz__, Friday, 27 November 2020 10:06 (five years ago)

Was just coming to post that Jorge Valdano eulogy that xyzzz linked to, what a fantastic piece

― or something, Friday, 27 November 2020 10:46 (five years ago)

yeah great piece

bbc website replaying argentina-england 1986 right now. fenwick just took out maradona.

― oscar bravo, Friday, 27 November 2020 17:24 (five years ago)

https://www.football365.com/news/mediawatch-special-shilton-maradona-cheat-mail

Nice little response to shiltons joyless grousing

― spruce springclean (darraghmac), Friday, 27 November 2020 18:19 (five years ago)

The one-two on Shilton here is brutal (not sure I'm linking the reply to thread right you might need to scroll)

You did too, to be fair that’s why she’s your second wife!
— Danny Armstrong (@DannyWArmstrong) November 15, 2019

― Clean-up on ILX (onimo), Friday, 27 November 2020 18:41 (five years ago)

Another punch he didn't see comin

― spruce springclean (darraghmac), Friday, 27 November 2020 18:55 (five years ago)

Some good takes from the screen shots of his book. I like this one on Pele.

Last ones I promise. It’s Maradona’s autobiography and it’s called El Diego. Well worth getting your hands on pic.twitter.com/F54pWrJ0wc
— Nooruddean (@BeardedGenius) November 28, 2020

― xyzzzz__, Saturday, 28 November 2020 11:37 (five years ago)

I love what he says about Del Piero but a bit harsh on Zizou I feel?

― scampus fugit (gyac), Saturday, 28 November 2020 12:12 (five years ago)

Given the way Zidane's career ended for France I'd say there is a point in there.

― xyzzzz__, Saturday, 28 November 2020 12:22 (five years ago)

Hmmm, is there? Maradona sounds like he’s talking about how he perceived Zidane actually played but what you’re talking about is his red card, right? I don’t see the point you’re making, sorry.

― scampus fugit (gyac), Saturday, 28 November 2020 12:29 (five years ago)

Zizou was sublime.

There's maybe an argument that he didn't play with the same obvious passion or joy for the beautiful game blah blah blah as someone like DM but there's a shitload of cultural bias to unpack under all that. Diego is throwing away 2 second judgements on people he barely knows for the sake of punting a book, they should be taken as such.

― Clean-up on ILX (onimo), Saturday, 28 November 2020 12:38 (five years ago)

These are not fully evidenced takes, just off the cuff impressions. All I'm saying is his red card and aftermath somewhat back what he says about the perception about what he saw in the pitch.

The one that sounds off to me is the Beckham one xp

― xyzzzz__, Saturday, 28 November 2020 12:43 (five years ago)

Yes, maybe a bit too cool for Maradona - apart from head butting a guy in a World Cup final that one time. I wonder what he made of Pirlo.

― ILXceptionalism (Tom D.), Saturday, 28 November 2020 12:44 (five years ago)

Oof

Unless I'm seeing a particularly sick troll spoof, the Boca Jr ultras have enacted serious revenge on the funeral home workers who selfied with himself

― spruce springclean (darraghmac), Saturday, 28 November 2020 19:36 (five years ago)

lol c'mon lads, it's just one of the perks of the trade for goodness sake

― calzino, Saturday, 28 November 2020 19:39 (five years ago)

anyway I bet most of these thugs would do the same given the chance

― calzino, Saturday, 28 November 2020 19:41 (five years ago)

We await the selfies they took with the lads after, alright

― spruce springclean (darraghmac), Saturday, 28 November 2020 19:41 (five years ago)

The Asif Kapadia film is getting a showing on Channel 4 tonight, as intense and brilliant as the man himself

― Bandscamp Fryday (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 28 November 2020 20:22 (five years ago)

wtf

https://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/news/diego-maradona-death-treated-possible-23087270

(Apologies for Mirror link.)

― pomenitul, Sunday, 29 November 2020 15:50 (five years ago)

https://www.irishexaminer.com/opinion/columnists/arid-40089860.html

Nice writeup from brady

― spruce springclean (darraghmac), Sunday, 29 November 2020 18:47 (five years ago)

https://www.theringer.com/platform/amp/2019/10/1/20891805/diego-maradona-hand-of-god-argentina-world-cup?

Great long piece that manages to write-up every side of him

― xyzzzz__, Friday, 4 December 2020 20:07 (five years ago)

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