Top 100 reasons why it's so hard to get over people sometimes

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I'm not going through this now, but just for posterity.

1. So you turn yourself inside out, agree a thousand times that if she doesn't want you then no, she's not right for you, that she's not the person you imagine her to be, that your feelings are faulty, that someone else will be the right one, that it will be better... But then you remember that she's probably going to end up with someone who will fall for pretty much the same things as you fell for, for the things that you're supposed to be denigrating, but that he won't be expected to suffocate those feelings, that in his case they'll be the ones to be trusted, acted upon and cherished. And you're back to square one.

― N. (nickdastoor), Monday, 26 April 2004 22:43 (twenty-one years ago)

'Cause you've revealed almost everything about yourself and it's too painful to think about that person, going off to someone or somewhere else, carrying all that knowledge and essence of you and then realising that in order to ever get that close to someone again, you've to reveal pretty much all of that again. Too damn hard sometimes/everytime.

― penelope_111, Monday, 26 April 2004 22:54 (twenty-one years ago)

n. when did you go all emo?

― strongo hulkington (dubplatestyle), Monday, 26 April 2004 22:55 (twenty-one years ago)

finding n. emo

― strongo hulkington (dubplatestyle), Monday, 26 April 2004 22:55 (twenty-one years ago)

I was emo before you were fucking born, jess.

― N. (nickdastoor), Monday, 26 April 2004 22:56 (twenty-one years ago)

you seem kind of melancholy lately, n.

― lauren (laurenp), Monday, 26 April 2004 22:57 (twenty-one years ago)

anyway.

3. it's often very difficult to let go of anger.

― lauren (laurenp), Monday, 26 April 2004 22:58 (twenty-one years ago)

Yes, but I don't want this thread to be about me, or anyone in particular. I liked penelope's. Carry on.

Cross-post.

― N. (nickdastoor), Monday, 26 April 2004 22:59 (twenty-one years ago)

haha dude you're like two years older than i am

4. because they still have a bunch of your stuff you'd really like back.

― strongo hulkington (dubplatestyle), Monday, 26 April 2004 22:59 (twenty-one years ago)

5. Because they gave you a disease.

― Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Monday, 26 April 2004 23:01 (twenty-one years ago)

5. because you don't want to return to just being you.

― cozen (Cozen), Monday, 26 April 2004 23:01 (twenty-one years ago)

6. Because you still have what they gave you.

heheh x-post w/ alex

― martin m. (mushrush), Monday, 26 April 2004 23:01 (twenty-one years ago)

in order to ever get that close to someone again, you've to reveal pretty much all of that again.

oh dear. this thought makes me want to take to my bed, forever.

― lauren (laurenp), Monday, 26 April 2004 23:01 (twenty-one years ago)

I thought it was four years, jess, but it doesn't matter. I was joking.

― N. (nickdastoor), Monday, 26 April 2004 23:02 (twenty-one years ago)

8. if you had activities that you liked to do in tandem with the other person, undertaking those activities without them highlights the loss.

― hstencil (hstencil), Monday, 26 April 2004 23:02 (twenty-one years ago)

6. because you got their name tatooed on you
7. because you really liked their friends/family
8. because the sex was good

damn xposts

― strongo hulkington (dubplatestyle), Monday, 26 April 2004 23:03 (twenty-one years ago)

(x-post)It still hurts when I throw piss baloons at passing cars alone.

― Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Monday, 26 April 2004 23:03 (twenty-one years ago)

naked eyes to thread.

― martin m. (mushrush), Monday, 26 April 2004 23:03 (twenty-one years ago)

You're so much better than this, strongo.

― N. (nickdastoor), Monday, 26 April 2004 23:04 (twenty-one years ago)

i think the last two i posted are perfectly valid!

― strongo hulkington (dubplatestyle), Monday, 26 April 2004 23:06 (twenty-one years ago)

9. Because it's still so painful to see them walking with Ned instead of you and because the image of what they and Ned must do when alone together still won't leave your head.

― martin m. (mushrush), Monday, 26 April 2004 23:06 (twenty-one years ago)

Thankfully none of my exes have dated Ned.

― Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Monday, 26 April 2004 23:08 (twenty-one years ago)

Or, 7ii, because you really liked their friends/family, and you have to face the fact that you no longer have any real excuse or reason for seeing those people, and that you don't know know them well enough to consider them friends independently of the other person.

― Gregory Henry (Gregory Henry), Monday, 26 April 2004 23:09 (twenty-one years ago)

10. because you still love them.

― cozen (Cozen), Monday, 26 April 2004 23:10 (twenty-one years ago)

Doesn't 7 and 7ii sort of have to do with NOT getting over the FRIENDS or FAMILY and not the ex-significant other?

― Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Monday, 26 April 2004 23:11 (twenty-one years ago)

11. Because you can't get their smell out of your clothes. (This is not meant grossly or sarcastically, either)

― Matos W.K. (M Matos), Monday, 26 April 2004 23:14 (twenty-one years ago)

12. Because, although we do not like to admit and will sometimes go to great lengths to deny it, it is often delicious to us to savor the pain of having lost something you will never get back.

― J0hn Darn1elle (J0hn Darn1elle), Monday, 26 April 2004 23:16 (twenty-one years ago)

13. Because it is easier to fall into conversation with that person than with anyone ever.
14. Because they work with you and it's really not fun at all watching them flirt with other people on the job. (cough, cough)

― Matos W.K. (M Matos), Monday, 26 April 2004 23:17 (twenty-one years ago)

15. because your routine doesn't provide enough distraction to keep your mind elsewhere
16. because someone new hasn't entered your life

― gabbneb (gabbneb), Monday, 26 April 2004 23:20 (twenty-one years ago)

17. Because they're your first ever girlfriend and you are 18 and overly dramatic and think you will never get laid and/or significant-othered again ever ever ever.

― Matos W.K. (M Matos), Monday, 26 April 2004 23:20 (twenty-one years ago)

Even though I was invoked indirectly, I will add nothing to this thread, as based on past experience I will sink for the entire evening and beyond into a pit of psychological self-laceration that I DON'T want to be in.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 26 April 2004 23:21 (twenty-one years ago)

18 Because they've put up with all your nasty habits and you feel comfortable enough to fart/belch/leave dirty knickers on the floor and the thought that you'll once again have to suffer from excrutiating wind pains with someone new makes you wanna clutch on to the out going model's ankles in a pitiful display of desperation.

― penelope_111, Monday, 26 April 2004 23:22 (twenty-one years ago)

18. Because you felt like a different and better person when they were around and it sucks to realize that, nope, you're the same person you were to start with (only you've had the honor of shagging your ex silly on the regular for awhile there).

― Matos W.K. (M Matos), Monday, 26 April 2004 23:22 (twenty-one years ago)

15. because even though you know that it's just not going to happen, and you should move on, your heart leaps every time she's around.

x-post (heh Ned, I'm an hour into that already, so I've got nothing to lose...)

― carson dial (carson dial), Monday, 26 April 2004 23:22 (twenty-one years ago)

21. Becuase the balance of power shifted over the course of the relationship--at first, they were extremely fragile and liked you more than you liked them; This you got used to. By the time of the final breakup, though, they're not fragile at all anymore, and their getting over you like *snaps* that is unnerving as fuck, especially since you now like them a lot more than they do you.

― Matos W.K. (M Matos), Monday, 26 April 2004 23:28 (twenty-one years ago)

22. Or they lied/cheated/stole/did bad things and your sense of cosmic justice has been violated and you hate them.

― Orbit (Orbit), Monday, 26 April 2004 23:31 (twenty-one years ago)

23. Because you still fucking live with them

― hgyf, Monday, 26 April 2004 23:33 (twenty-one years ago)

24. because you can't stop listening to sad, self-pitying music around the clock as you lie there staring at the ceiling.

― lauren (laurenp), Tuesday, 27 April 2004 00:08 (twenty-one years ago)

25. because you don't know if it's just that they moved too far away, or if it's really that they don't love you anymore.

― A Nairn (moretap), Tuesday, 27 April 2004 00:45 (twenty-one years ago)

do you guys find that one sex tends to have a harder time getting over relationships than another? i'm just wondering because it's always been fairly smooth for me (i'm female) and my female friends to get over their exes...

however for my male friends and acquaintences it seems to have been far more traumatizing. their relationships end, they become total man-whores, waiver between extreme disdain and total nostalgia, then fall back into having ex-girlfriend sex, then later discover their exes are seeing someone new and these guys either become severely depressed or angry over that.

anyone else notice this......i don't know. maybe i've been cursed with having such melodramatic male friends.

― waxyjax (waxyjax), Tuesday, 27 April 2004 00:59 (twenty-one years ago)

"...that in his case they'll be the ones to be trusted, acted upon and cherished."

don't know about that in actuality, though i understand feeling that way. maybe acted upon, but (totally and completely?) trusted and cherished seem ambitious for anyone in any relationship ever. . .and are concepts which i think generally spring from the kind of "delicious" romanticism of loss which john darnielle spoke of. a relationship can be alternately like stockholm syndrome, or quietly rewarded hard work, but it's never so consummately realised as you would have it be in your mind, particularly when in this state. though i do understand seeing even relationship problems as problems you'd like to have, rather than ones pertaining to being strictly on your own. but here it just would come down to whether there is any integrity to your unrequited's new situation. i've personally both seen them run off to arms of chumps, and i've seen them (or at least one) leave the chumps for me. and now i think we are all just ants basically. and "success" always comes down to honest decisions and integrity, which typically involve going through very real fear and sometimes loathing, more than it ever does a grandiloquent notion of (fully) trusting or cherishing (well maybe a little cherishing). and a sidebar: certainly some people could be accurately said to possess little real integrity too, and they walk among us, fairly unannounced, you know?

― duke cherish, Tuesday, 27 April 2004 01:03 (twenty-one years ago)

what?

― Orbit (Orbit), Tuesday, 27 April 2004 01:07 (twenty-one years ago)

yeah that was too much, but that scene where you get to overplaying their experience, when you coulda been a contender basically

― duke sooorrrrryyy, Tuesday, 27 April 2004 01:12 (twenty-one years ago)

it's no good.

― duke wha'happen, Tuesday, 27 April 2004 01:14 (twenty-one years ago)

Women like money.

― CRW (CRW), Tuesday, 27 April 2004 01:15 (twenty-one years ago)

oh please.

― Orbit (Orbit), Tuesday, 27 April 2004 01:15 (twenty-one years ago)

see chris rock HBO special he expresses it better i think

― duke nevermind, Tuesday, 27 April 2004 01:20 (twenty-one years ago)

It's true - men have a hard time getting over their exes but girls just tend to go out, bat their eyelids and look for someone with a bit more cash.

Doesn't work the other way around.

― CRW (CRW), Tuesday, 27 April 2004 01:22 (twenty-one years ago)

Why, men use biceps instead of eyelids?

― A Nairn (moretap), Tuesday, 27 April 2004 01:48 (twenty-one years ago)

I suppose it's comforting for you to think that Calum.
"Yeah, that's why no-one's going with me, I just don't have the cash yet.
But one day, mwuhaahaa, one day I will...."

― de, Tuesday, 27 April 2004 01:50 (twenty-one years ago)

It's true - men have a hard time getting over their exes but girls just tend to go out, bat their eyelids and look for someone with a bit more cash.
Doesn't work the other way around.

-- CRW (...), April 27th, 2004.

i wouldn't say they always look for someone with a bit more cash....maybe someone who can easily be controlled--when it comes to rebounds, anyway...

― waxyjax (waxyjax), Tuesday, 27 April 2004 01:53 (twenty-one years ago)

Amusing how De thinks she knows me so well as to pass gross generalisations onto my past experiences.

― CRW (CRW), Tuesday, 27 April 2004 01:56 (twenty-one years ago)

"pass gross generalisations"

Women like money.
-- CRW (...), April 27th, 2004.

― de, Tuesday, 27 April 2004 01:57 (twenty-one years ago)

It ended because you wanted something else. Only now you can't think of anything you want more than her again. You realise that everything you once accepted as a given is actually the exception to the rule. You've got a big hole in your life that you can never imagine being filled alone or with anybody else.

― Andrew (enneff), Tuesday, 27 April 2004 02:29 (twenty-one years ago)

(ps: this is why I'm not trying to get over anyone)

― Andrew (enneff), Tuesday, 27 April 2004 02:31 (twenty-one years ago)

26. because every single anecdote from the past x years must include his/her name

― mandee, Tuesday, 27 April 2004 02:37 (twenty-one years ago)

haha mandee otm
fuckerz.

― Orbit (Orbit), Tuesday, 27 April 2004 02:38 (twenty-one years ago)

interestingly the person I am closest to now is an ex. The world is a strange place.

― Orbit (Orbit), Tuesday, 27 April 2004 02:39 (twenty-one years ago)

sorry, too long to read.

― DQ (danny quintana), Tuesday, 27 April 2004 04:16 (twenty-one years ago)

mandee otm

― NUMBER 1 TERRY RILEY FAN (ex machina), Tuesday, 27 April 2004 04:16 (twenty-one years ago)

12. Because, although we do not like to admit and will sometimes go to great lengths to deny it, it is often delicious to us to savor the pain of having lost something you will never get back.
-- J0hn Darn1elle (edito...), April 27th, 2004.

J0hn, I will have your children right now.

― hmmm (hmmm), Tuesday, 27 April 2004 08:36 (twenty-one years ago)

27. Sad songs are more enjoyable.

― hmmm (hmmm), Tuesday, 27 April 2004 08:39 (twenty-one years ago)

28. Because there's no one else.

― Ronan (Ronan), Tuesday, 27 April 2004 08:52 (twenty-one years ago)

29. Because they are seeing your oldest friend.

― Matt DC (Matt DC), Tuesday, 27 April 2004 08:52 (twenty-one years ago)

30) Because suddenly his lame little indie band gets signed and you can't walk ANYWHERE in Central London without seeing his face on a poster plastered over every wall, pillarbox and and lamppost, and there's not enough gum in the UK to chew and stick on his nose on every single one...

31) Because they've ingratiated their way into *your* circle of friends to the point where your friends decide they actually like the other person better and you can't even return to the bosom of your single life without them ALWAYS. BEING. THERE.

32) They stalked you.

― Super-Kate (kate), Tuesday, 27 April 2004 08:53 (twenty-one years ago)

Don't look back!

― Jerry the Nipper (Jerrynipper), Tuesday, 27 April 2004 08:53 (twenty-one years ago)

33. You hate them.

― Ronan (Ronan), Tuesday, 27 April 2004 08:58 (twenty-one years ago)

34) because now you'll have to go through your life story with all the details/trimmings with a new significant other, and you're already bored to tears with your own biog.

― mark grout (mark grout), Tuesday, 27 April 2004 09:13 (twenty-one years ago)

god number 1 is pretty insightful

on the other hand it feeds pretty easily into that contemptuous feeling when someone elses get with the person you had fancied/still fancy and part of you thinks, "sucker..."

― amateur!st (amateurist), Tuesday, 27 April 2004 09:29 (twenty-one years ago)

What, when an ex-gf gets married to newguy, and you are inv. to the day, and you are watching from afar going hray hray, whew safe.

― mark grout (mark grout), Tuesday, 27 April 2004 09:39 (twenty-one years ago)

i'm not saying that feeling is a good one, in fact it is, ahem, contemptible. but it's often the other side of the coin.

― amateur!st (amateurist), Tuesday, 27 April 2004 10:00 (twenty-one years ago)

I don't think it's comtemptible at all.

― N. (nickdastoor), Tuesday, 27 April 2004 10:06 (twenty-one years ago)

35) once you actually DO get over them, and accept that they've moved on, they inform you that the only reason it ended was because they loved you so much it freaked them out, and still do...

and matos said one of mine as well.

― colette (a2lette), Tuesday, 27 April 2004 10:11 (twenty-one years ago)

Which brings us to

36. Because they look at you sometimes or do things for you and you know they still look at you differently from just anyone.

― Ronan (Ronan), Tuesday, 27 April 2004 10:13 (twenty-one years ago)

This thread makes my tummy do somersaults.

― hmmm (hmmm), Tuesday, 27 April 2004 10:19 (twenty-one years ago)

kick-ass, I'm gonna be a daddy

― J0hn Darn1elle (J0hn Darn1elle), Tuesday, 27 April 2004 10:21 (twenty-one years ago)

Congratulations.

― hmmm (hmmm), Tuesday, 27 April 2004 10:25 (twenty-one years ago)

37. Because they won't leave you alone and stop the intellectual hornlocking etc. JUST FUCK ME OR FUCK OFF!

― Ronan (Ronan), Tuesday, 27 April 2004 10:27 (twenty-one years ago)

no hmmm that was a joke based on yr "I will have your children" upthread see 'cause "I will have your children" => "my tummy doing somersaults" = now I am a father" k sorry for being unclear

― J0hn Darn1elle (J0hn Darn1elle), Tuesday, 27 April 2004 10:28 (twenty-one years ago)

sorry ronan

― uh (dubplatestyle), Tuesday, 27 April 2004 10:29 (twenty-one years ago)

I got over you in 1997, the last time I listened to the Beastie Boys.

― Ronan (Ronan), Tuesday, 27 April 2004 10:30 (twenty-one years ago)

J0hn - I know.

I could not think of a response which could convey my understanding appropriately due to the cramps, throwing up, etc.

2xpost

― hmmm (hmmm), Tuesday, 27 April 2004 10:31 (twenty-one years ago)

[x-post, but works in response to either Ronan or hmmm]

Shake

your

RUMP-uhhh

― J0hn Darn1elle (J0hn Darn1elle), Tuesday, 27 April 2004 10:32 (twenty-one years ago)

Surely all that jostling wouldn't do our offspring any good.

― hmmm (hmmm), Tuesday, 27 April 2004 10:36 (twenty-one years ago)

38. Because, beyond what happened between the two of you, they bonded with your child and gave them gifts and now whenever your offspring plays with that gigantic stuffed panda or wears a certain Cat-in-the-Hat hat that fucking horribly wonderful face pops back up in your mind's eye.

― nickalicious (nickalicious), Tuesday, 27 April 2004 12:55 (twenty-one years ago)

because you think it will be awfully difficulty to find someone with all the qualities you loved about her again - impaired vision, no sense of smell and poor judgement, especially

― Dave Stelfox (Dave Stelfox), Tuesday, 27 April 2004 13:00 (twenty-one years ago)

40. because you took the plunge even though relationships freak you out and you gave 100% to someone who now doesn't seem to give a shit.

(number 21 is similar but so fucking otm with regards to my previous girlfriend)

― Ste (Fuzzy), Tuesday, 27 April 2004 13:09 (twenty-one years ago)

41. Because you find yourself idly listing the qualities your ideal partner would possess and have to stop when you realise when you are just describing her.

― N. (nickdastoor), Tuesday, 27 April 2004 13:16 (twenty-one years ago)

41. your friends sometimes have the same perfume or car smell.

42. because a relationship is a canny device for adding you to the world and then promptly subtracting you safely from it, they are so seductive in allowing you to keep yr head above social water without the worry of being buckshot to pieces with the usually attendant awkward discomfort.

― cozen (Cozen), Tuesday, 27 April 2004 13:16 (twenty-one years ago)

43. for months strands of their hair appear on car seats, pillows, sink basins . . .

― bnw (bnw), Tuesday, 27 April 2004 13:33 (twenty-one years ago)

This is turning into alt.country...

― mark grout (mark grout), Tuesday, 27 April 2004 13:35 (twenty-one years ago)

they become total man-whores, waiver between extreme disdain and total nostalgia, then fall back into having ex-girlfriend sex, then later discover their exes are seeing someone new and these guys either become severely depressed or angry over that.

chee-rist. you've just described the last four weeks of my life. what a jack-ass I am.

― Will (will), Tuesday, 27 April 2004 13:35 (twenty-one years ago)

44. Because every time something funny happens/you see something funny, and you know they'd think it was as funny as you do, you want to tell them about it but because it's now an effort to speak to them or be around them you just keep it to yourself, and it stops seeming quite so funny.

(that's a really poorly constructed sentence, never mind)

car smell?

― Cathy (Cathy), Tuesday, 27 April 2004 13:36 (twenty-one years ago)

N. has been so alarmingly on the money in this thread it is almost painful.

― Ricardo (RickyT), Tuesday, 27 April 2004 13:50 (twenty-one years ago)

He is a Dead-Eyed Dick with regards to the OTMoney shot.

― Jerry the Nipper (Jerrynipper), Tuesday, 27 April 2004 13:58 (twenty-one years ago)

45. because they tell you that they were in the grocery store examining crisps to see which ones are vegetarian, when they don't eat crisps so you start wondering why they were looking at crisps and maybe they were because they know you really like crisps and that means they still like you?

― colette (a2lette), Tuesday, 27 April 2004 13:59 (twenty-one years ago)

All i've learnt from this thread is:

Girls don't like Calum, girls like cars and money.

― Jarlr'mai (jarlrmai), Tuesday, 27 April 2004 14:06 (twenty-one years ago)

(I can remember getting into a friends car, often, and being unable to let go of things because of it. car smell.

or, if you like, some girls smell of cars.)

― cozen (Cozen), Tuesday, 27 April 2004 14:19 (twenty-one years ago)

JC Chasez takes on a new light.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 27 April 2004 14:19 (twenty-one years ago)

46. Because you wrote songs about her for your band and they want to continue playing those songs regardless of the fact that she is now gone from you.

― nickalicious (nickalicious), Tuesday, 27 April 2004 14:24 (twenty-one years ago)

47. Because life is short, and kissing her was as good as it gets.

― Collardio Gelatinous (collardio), Tuesday, 27 April 2004 14:30 (twenty-one years ago)

48. the sex was awesome, and he was okay with you playing "The Bitterest Pill" on the jukebox at the bar you went to every night, and he looks exactly like Stephen Colbert but you can't stop watching the Daily Show, and I guess that's three separate reasons

― Donna Brown (Donna Brown), Tuesday, 27 April 2004 16:24 (twenty-one years ago)

49. because no one else is or ever will be as cute. sigh.

― lauren (laurenp), Tuesday, 27 April 2004 16:50 (twenty-one years ago)

Because the thought of acclimating someone to your musical/movie/book/culinary tastes only to have them bugger off and leave later is too depressing to contemplate.

― Michael White (Hereward), Tuesday, 27 April 2004 17:02 (twenty-one years ago)

51. Because for a long time, you would look into your future and she was always there

― Magic City (ano ano), Tuesday, 27 April 2004 17:19 (twenty-one years ago)

52. Because, despite the fact that eveyone you talk to thinks he is a tool or a douchebag, you are threatened by her new boyfriend because he's a DJ or something.

― Magic City (ano ano), Tuesday, 27 April 2004 17:22 (twenty-one years ago)

53. Because it would seem like admitting she was right.

― N. (nickdastoor), Tuesday, 27 April 2004 17:22 (twenty-one years ago)

54. because you have listened to indie music as a teenager.

― Ronan (Ronan), Tuesday, 27 April 2004 17:24 (twenty-one years ago)

I fear Ronan may be horribly on the money.

― N. (nickdastoor), Tuesday, 27 April 2004 17:26 (twenty-one years ago)

haha Ronan OTM.

― cis (cis), Tuesday, 27 April 2004 17:27 (twenty-one years ago)

this is gonna turn into a smiths hating thread soon i can smell it.

― bill stevens (bscrubbins), Tuesday, 27 April 2004 17:46 (twenty-one years ago)

Maybe it should?

― El Diablo Robotico (Nicole), Tuesday, 27 April 2004 17:46 (twenty-one years ago)

This is kinda funny because my ex just recently blamed me for getting her little brother into the smiths via my mixtapes and basically fucking up his life.

― bill stevens (bscrubbins), Tuesday, 27 April 2004 17:48 (twenty-one years ago)

chee-rist. you've just described the last four weeks of my life. what a jack-ass I am.

-- Will (wvferrel...), April 27th, 2004.

oof! well, if it makes you feel better it's the story of about 90% of the men i know....

you males are funny....

― waxyjax (waxyjax), Tuesday, 27 April 2004 17:49 (twenty-one years ago)

my dad confiscated my cassette of the queen is dead when i was 16! i had just finished with my first significant boyfriend, and he was worried that it would push me over the edge.

― lauren (laurenp), Tuesday, 27 April 2004 17:51 (twenty-one years ago)

OK, that's ridiculous. Its effects are more insidious than that.

― N. (nickdastoor), Tuesday, 27 April 2004 17:52 (twenty-one years ago)

(Here's a previous discussion about the Smiths ruining one's life.)

― N. (nickdastoor), Tuesday, 27 April 2004 17:56 (twenty-one years ago)

ok 116 posts, only 55 reasons!

― Orbit (Orbit), Tuesday, 27 April 2004 18:02 (twenty-one years ago)

he was particulary concerned that "i know it's over" would send me running for the razor blades.

xpost

― lauren (laurenp), Tuesday, 27 April 2004 18:03 (twenty-one years ago)

It is a bit razor-blade-y, isn't it?

― El Diablo Robotico (Nicole), Tuesday, 27 April 2004 18:04 (twenty-one years ago)

ok 116 posts, only 55 reasons!

That's OK. There's no hurry. I don't want people to put anything down just for the sake of it.

― N. (nickdastoor), Tuesday, 27 April 2004 18:04 (twenty-one years ago)

I once read a journalist in the NME or MM say that after he and his ex had broken up, she'd sent him a copy of 'The Queen Is Dead' in the post, with all the tracks other than I Know It's Over scratched out.

― N. (nickdastoor), Tuesday, 27 April 2004 18:07 (twenty-one years ago)

Although when I had broken up with someone and wanted to wallow in my grief I usually played Scott Walker instead, the Smiths didn't quite fit the bill.

― El Diablo Robotico (Nicole), Tuesday, 27 April 2004 18:07 (twenty-one years ago)

I have come round to the queen being dead.

― cozen (Cozen), Tuesday, 27 April 2004 18:09 (twenty-one years ago)

I agree, Nicole. Off the top of my head, none of the songs are unambiguously about lost love anyway. Even IKIO throws you a googly with the whole 'It never really began' verse.

Not that I was ever breaking up with anyone, anyway.

― N. (nickdastoor), Tuesday, 27 April 2004 18:11 (twenty-one years ago)

in my heart, it was so real. why do i not have emergency smiths cds at work?

55. because you had been thinking about breaking up, but he/she beat you to it.

― lauren (laurenp), Tuesday, 27 April 2004 18:27 (twenty-one years ago)

56. Because you had been thinking about breaking up, but knew that you couldn't actually do it, then he/she actually DID it.

― Magic City (ano ano), Tuesday, 27 April 2004 18:54 (twenty-one years ago)

i think Cozen's in love!

― joan_alone, Tuesday, 27 April 2004 18:59 (twenty-one years ago)

again

― joan_alone, Tuesday, 27 April 2004 19:02 (twenty-one years ago)

57. because you sit next to them in chem class, every day

insert joke about lacking 'chemistry' here

― chrisco (chrisco), Tuesday, 27 April 2004 19:06 (twenty-one years ago)

58. Because you love them - or if you don't, then what is this, and will you ever know love? Perhaps not. And no-one will ever notice or care either way, not now.

― the bellefox, Tuesday, 27 April 2004 19:44 (twenty-one years ago)

I am glad N linked that thread, I always wished it got more answers. I thought of it today while running.

― Ronan (Ronan), Tuesday, 27 April 2004 19:47 (twenty-one years ago)

59. Because even though things are going fine it feels like something big is missing.

God, it's been almost 6 months since I've seen my ex - who stopped talking to me around a month ago - and of course I miss her more now than ever.

― Aaron W (Aaron W), Tuesday, 27 April 2004 19:51 (twenty-one years ago)

60. Masochism.

― Aaron W (Aaron W), Tuesday, 27 April 2004 19:52 (twenty-one years ago)

35) once you actually DO get over them, and accept that they've moved on, they inform you that the only reason it ended was because they loved you so much it freaked them out, and still do...

uh, hello welcome to my present.

60) because you live two blocks away from them and run into them all the time.

61) You moved to a new city to be with them and now curse your stupidity.

― Ask For Samantha (thatgirl), Tuesday, 27 April 2004 19:52 (twenty-one years ago)

It was a good discussion, that Smiths-related one. If anything it reminds me how *separate* music is for me from my own particular emotional sense of self, which apparently wasn't the case for many here (not meant as criticism, merely observation).

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 27 April 2004 19:52 (twenty-one years ago)

I don't think I can buy the Smiths => ruin line. I think it rather complacent - in fact Nick Hornby believes it, a bad sign.

My problems, whatever they are, were not caused by the Smiths, heaven knows, or even the Smiths' "Heaven Knows".

The Smiths did not, for instance, give me unrealistic expectations or hopes of love or lovers. There are relatively few lovers in their songs (as N. has perhaps said).

Perhaps I am misunderstanding, and should start again. Perhaps the point is different: that the Smiths ... made it good to be alone and thus fostered an absence of relationships, love, sexuality etc?

Yet still I think this false:

1) when I was first enraptured by them, I did not want to be alone: I suffered a la 'How Soon Is Now?' itself outside the discos.

2) the Smiths have not literally helped me to be alone: they have probably helped me not to be alone. Some of my best friends are people whom I can and do talk to about the Smiths. (Granted, 'friendship' is a derailment here.)

3) the whole thing is simply a red herring. Whatever explains my situation on love's lonely highway - and in truth I don't know what does - it is not an excessive attachment to the Smiths.

― the bluefox, Tuesday, 27 April 2004 19:54 (twenty-one years ago)

I think it rather complacent - in fact Nick Hornby believes it, a bad sign.

Very good call, that one.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 27 April 2004 19:55 (twenty-one years ago)

63)because all it took was her smile to wipe away your defeatist attitude about life and now when she notices you in passing she looks the other way.
13,18,35,44, and 47 all extremely OTM.

― Felonious Drunk (Felcher), Tuesday, 27 April 2004 20:03 (twenty-one years ago)

I think it's odd, how one can let music become entangled with everything. I guess in some ways it makes life make more sense, or gives you a sort of scene that you know about and can keep learning about, and be secure about, something to hold on to, when you dance to records or DJ or just talk about records.

I remember the feeling when I started that thread N links to, but it goes away and you only know that you said you felt it once, you can't get a sense of it.

So then today I was running, and absolutely shattered and struggling aswell as contemplating stopping cos I tried to go slightly further than yesterday, and in the mix I was listening to a Renato Cohen track I really like came on, it's a really hard full on sort of track, so I went a little further, and kept going and forgot being tired until I got back to the car. But it was the instant when it came on that kind of is sticking with me.

I got a sort of sense of what I felt when I started that Glastonbury thread. A sense that the music was blotting out a natural feeling. It feels like the same recess of the mind you hit when you get those fleeting questions about say, the universe, or the origins of humans. I mean in the middle of the day doing something mundane and your mind pans out and out and out until everything seems relatively insignificant, and there are only really questions.

THAT'S the feeling I think, when a piece of music seems to alter something like today or in that thread linked above. It's different to the visceral rush of just dancing to a record, I'm not sure if I'm explaining it well and this is a total thread mutation but the other thread had a habit of dying.....

― Ronan (Ronan), Tuesday, 27 April 2004 20:03 (twenty-one years ago)

but anyway

64. because they don't want you to.

― Ronan (Ronan), Tuesday, 27 April 2004 20:15 (twenty-one years ago)

or, if you like, some girls smell of cars.

Demeter's newest fragrance: New Car.

(As far as I know they have no plans to produce such a scent, but imagine what a hit it would be with men.)

65) Because you felt so physically and emotionally to The One That Got Away that it gave you an endorphin rush. Now without TOTGA you're jonesin' for another hit.

― j.lu (j.lu), Tuesday, 27 April 2004 20:20 (twenty-one years ago)

Grr, please read my prev. post as "...you felt so physically and emotionaally comfortable with The One That..."

― j.lu (j.lu), Tuesday, 27 April 2004 20:23 (twenty-one years ago)

this is depressing me a lot.

― mandee, Tuesday, 27 April 2004 20:26 (twenty-one years ago)

66). Because your disappointment in 99.9% of humanity makes you realize how rare it was that you found someone for a brief amount of time.

― mandee, Tuesday, 27 April 2004 20:30 (twenty-one years ago)

(Other thread revived - this is maybe too tender to derail)

― Gregory Henry (Gregory Henry), Tuesday, 27 April 2004 20:33 (twenty-one years ago)

This is a really fucking depressing thread.
67. You pledge to stay friends, yet they never return your phone calls.

― Barry Bruner (Barry Bruner), Wednesday, 28 April 2004 01:08 (twenty-one years ago)

because there's a nagging doubt in the back of your head that the entire thing was about the Visa.

because, 18 months later, there's still a box of unwanted presents that you still haven't taken to Oxfam.

― eno-on, Wednesday, 28 April 2004 07:10 (twenty-one years ago)

68. Because their new significant other is SO horrible that it makes you wrack yourself with self-analysis trying to figure out what could possibly be so wrong with you that they were attracted to you in the first place.

― Douglas (Douglas), Wednesday, 28 April 2004 07:37 (twenty-one years ago)

66 is brilliant.

― hmmm (hmmm), Wednesday, 28 April 2004 07:52 (twenty-one years ago)

46. Because you wrote songs about her for your band and they want to continue playing those songs regardless of the fact that she is now gone from you.

So on the money it hurts...

My ex-drummer would actually groan every time an ex-boyfriend would break up with me, sighing "well, there's half our set gone, including my new favourite song..."

― Super-Kate (kate), Wednesday, 28 April 2004 07:57 (twenty-one years ago)

could you just change a few of the words?

― amateur!st (amateurist), Wednesday, 28 April 2004 08:12 (twenty-one years ago)

That so doesn't work, not when every rhyming couplet is like a stabwound through the heart.

― Super-Kate (kate), Wednesday, 28 April 2004 08:14 (twenty-one years ago)

free verse!

― amateur!st (amateurist), Wednesday, 28 April 2004 08:30 (twenty-one years ago)

You could bring in Elephant Man.

― Ronan (Ronan), Wednesday, 28 April 2004 08:30 (twenty-one years ago)

the dancehall superstar or malformed victorian romantic?

― amateur!st (amateurist), Wednesday, 28 April 2004 08:33 (twenty-one years ago)

It depends what sort of direction you want to take the song in I guess. The victorian one probably has a definite article.

― Ronan (Ronan), Wednesday, 28 April 2004 08:44 (twenty-one years ago)

Wow, a creepy Victorian pseudo-science medical freak aspect to our music would be really freaking cool...

(Except hasn't Michael Jackson bought him, so it would be even harder than trying to get clearance on a Beatles sample?)

― Super-Kate (kate), Wednesday, 28 April 2004 08:47 (twenty-one years ago)

69. = 69

70. Because they're 'so high you can't get over them, oh blessa mah soul'.

― Echo75, Wednesday, 28 April 2004 09:06 (twenty-one years ago)

71. Because the countryside is rolling by outside, and minutes are passing, but I am getting no closer to a way out of, or round, or beyond, this empty, imprisoning pointlessness that still stretches ahead.

― the bluefox, Wednesday, 28 April 2004 13:27 (twenty-one years ago)

woah pinefox.

(hi joan!)

― cozen (Cozen), Wednesday, 28 April 2004 13:44 (twenty-one years ago)

65 to 68 are all perfect. 72; cos w/out them caring about you you don't see the point in caring about yrself. And so, you don't.

― Mr Mime (Andrew Thames), Wednesday, 28 April 2004 13:51 (twenty-one years ago)

(all of them are GOOD, in some way, obv)

― Mr Mime (Andrew Thames), Wednesday, 28 April 2004 13:52 (twenty-one years ago)

pinefox is saying some nice/sad things on this thread...

― mandee, Wednesday, 28 April 2004 14:10 (twenty-one years ago)

Yeah. It's funny - most of them, inc. 65-68 mean almost nothing to me, though. Interesting to see the different ways people minds work.

― N. (nickdastoor), Wednesday, 28 April 2004 15:03 (twenty-one years ago)

pinefox is saying some nice/sad things on this thread...

Pinefox has been on fire the past week or so, writing-wise.

― El Diablo Curmudgeonbotico (Nicole), Wednesday, 28 April 2004 16:17 (twenty-one years ago)

I really enjoyed it when the Pinefox was talking about Wine Gums, I'm not being sarcastic.

― jel -- (jel), Wednesday, 28 April 2004 16:20 (twenty-one years ago)

73. Because you can see your unborn children in her eyes.

― Bryan Adams (Kim), Thursday, 29 April 2004 00:31 (twenty-one years ago)

the pro-choicer in me would be tossing his cookies

― chrisco (chrisco), Thursday, 29 April 2004 01:53 (twenty-one years ago)

Thanks for reminding why current day Bryan Adams songs make me hurl.

I guess, in a way, it's hard to get over him sometimes.

― El Diablo Robotico (Nicole), Thursday, 29 April 2004 01:54 (twenty-one years ago)

I am truly grateful for the generous praise, above, of not 1 or even 2 but 3 ilxors.

― the bellefox, Thursday, 29 April 2004 11:25 (twenty-one years ago)

(Naturally I agree with all of it.)

― the finefox, Thursday, 29 April 2004 14:15 (twenty-one years ago)

easy, there's some strange unexplanable chemical reaction that makes you sick to your stomach when you think about this person who doesn't want to be with you, even though you should know better then to want to be with them anyway.

― Dan Selzer (Dan Selzer), Thursday, 29 April 2004 16:32 (twenty-one years ago)

but anyway
64. because they don't want you to.

-- Ronan (ronan.fitzgerald6NOSPA...), April 27th, 2004 2:15 PM. (Ronan) (later)

this thread has been locked by a heavy-hearted administrator.

― gygax! (gygax!), Thursday, 29 April 2004 16:36 (twenty-one years ago)

(Naturally I agree with all of it.)

Well it is true, sir.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 29 April 2004 16:40 (twenty-one years ago)

: ' (

― Ronan (Ronan), Thursday, 29 April 2004 17:50 (twenty-one years ago)

so very OTM

― Donna Brown (Donna Brown), Thursday, 29 April 2004 18:25 (twenty-one years ago)

74. Because you keep fighting the same battles over and over.

75. Because the double dildo lives in her nightstand.

― Ask For Samantha (thatgirl), Friday, 30 April 2004 05:57 (twenty-one years ago)

two weeks pass...

76. Because you made that person the motivation for what you do and for why you want to try and the best at it.

― A Nairn (moretap), Wednesday, 19 May 2004 02:04 (twenty-one years ago)

OTM!

― ipsofacto (ipsofacto), Wednesday, 19 May 2004 02:09 (twenty-one years ago)

god, saddest thread ever.

i think we all need way less falling in love and way more mutual masturbation.

― Ian Johnson (orion), Wednesday, 19 May 2004 02:11 (twenty-one years ago)

yes! Def.

This thread has put me off ever entering into a relationship again. Sex with yourself might not be quite a good but it's better than putting up with all the other crap.

― ipsofacto (ipsofacto), Wednesday, 19 May 2004 02:23 (twenty-one years ago)

i'm 1000% over anyone i was thinking of when i posted upthread.

― gygax! (gygax!), Wednesday, 19 May 2004 02:25 (twenty-one years ago)

and it took a very shitty thing for it to happen but I'm happier now for what it's worth.

― gygax! (gygax!), Wednesday, 19 May 2004 02:26 (twenty-one years ago)

I look forward to getting to where you are right now gygax

― ipsofacto (ipsofacto), Wednesday, 19 May 2004 02:28 (twenty-one years ago)

24. because you can't stop listening to sad, self-pitying music around the clock as you lie there staring at the ceiling.

palace brothers + january to thread.

i hate women. and sex.

― Ian Johnson (orion), Wednesday, 19 May 2004 02:29 (twenty-one years ago)

77. Because you left a Ministry CD at her house and want it back

― I Wish You Almanac (Autumn Almanac), Wednesday, 19 May 2004 03:39 (twenty-one years ago)

78. because she's now dating one of yr favorite musicians

― Ian Johnson (orion), Friday, 21 May 2004 04:27 (twenty-one years ago)

79. Because they threw you away like a piece of rubbish without any decent explanation leaving your self-worth in tatters.

― ipsofacto (ipsofacto), Friday, 21 May 2004 04:31 (twenty-one years ago)

80. because you keep thinking one day something in them will click and they'll be "ready" for a relationship with you again.

81. because you know they read ilx every now and then and wonder what they'll think of every post you make.

― Sterling Clover (s_clover), Friday, 21 May 2004 05:26 (twenty-one years ago)

82. Because they lied to you for the larger part of the relationship.

― ipsofacto (ipsofacto), Friday, 21 May 2004 05:27 (twenty-one years ago)

83. cause now you have to find a new drug dealer, forsaking your sick discount.

― Ian Johnson (orion), Friday, 21 May 2004 05:29 (twenty-one years ago)

84. Because you still can't figure out what you even liked about them in the first place.

― ipsofacto (ipsofacto), Friday, 21 May 2004 05:31 (twenty-one years ago)

85. because you have mental problems.

― oops (Oops), Friday, 21 May 2004 07:13 (twenty-one years ago)

Sterling's first one otm.

― Ronan (Ronan), Friday, 21 May 2004 09:10 (twenty-one years ago)

86. because they're now shagging their housemate, who is in your group of friends, who you introduced.

(this also had the cold-water effect of speeding up the getting over process, but means it's a bit in my face)

― colette (a2lette), Friday, 21 May 2004 09:14 (twenty-one years ago)

one year passes...

87. Because even when you think you're getting over them, people unaware of the history see the two of you together and suggest you go out.

― Alba (Alba), Sunday, 3 July 2005 17:06 (twenty years ago)

Aiiiieee... too many bad memories... why did I click this again?

― Tantrum The Cat (Tantrum The Cat), Sunday, 3 July 2005 17:13 (twenty years ago)

88. Because even though it's eight years since you split up, you still sometimes dream about them, and when you do the dreams haunt you for days afterwards.

― RickyT (RickyT), Sunday, 3 July 2005 17:45 (twenty years ago)

because you're a scary stalker still reading her emails

― lo, Sunday, 3 July 2005 18:55 (twenty years ago)

40. because you took the plunge even though relationships freak you out and you gave 100% to someone who now doesn't seem to give a shit.
*sniff*

90. Because it hurts your pride to be dumped for a teenager
91. You get those rose-colored glasses on making you think that you were really happy then and haven't been since

― Candicissima (candicissima), Sunday, 3 July 2005 19:21 (twenty years ago)

92. The love was unrequited. And you just can't stop hoping.

― Orange (Orange), Sunday, 3 July 2005 20:36 (twenty years ago)

93. Because they start seeking your company again and giving you crazy mixed signals.

― Amateur(ist) (Amateur(ist)), Sunday, 3 July 2005 21:33 (twenty years ago)

...Such that you don't know, if you were to kiss them, if they would take you home or slap you.

― Amateur(ist) (Amateur(ist)), Sunday, 3 July 2005 21:34 (twenty years ago)

94. Big-ass titties

― milozauckerman (miloaukerman), Monday, 4 July 2005 00:26 (twenty years ago)

95. tons and tons of songs, about love or heartbreak or just songs that remind you of that person for whatever reason, playing in an endless feedback loop in your head, whatever else you might try to listen to.

dammit, i've got great tits and he still got over me quickly enough...

― juliaaa, Monday, 4 July 2005 00:36 (twenty years ago)

96. He died. It's hard to get over someone when they die.

― Orbit (Orbit), Monday, 4 July 2005 00:54 (twenty years ago)

97. Because they married someone who really isn't that different from you, and in fact looks remarkably like you.

― Tantrum The Cat (Tantrum The Cat), Monday, 4 July 2005 01:38 (twenty years ago)

98. because youve got to prove youre better than the person they left you for
99. because they know the guy with the drugzz

― sunny successor (when the lunch bell rings why dont you eat me) (katharine), Monday, 4 July 2005 02:07 (twenty years ago)

100. You believed them when they told you they loved you, and that they wanted to grow old with you.

― Orbit (Orbit), Monday, 4 July 2005 02:17 (twenty years ago)

mixed signals include:

1. telling me about seeing a movie with dude she previously described as a lech
2. touching my arm tenderly, several times
3. sitting far across from me at dinner w/friends
4. telling me that i was ever lonely/upset late at night, i should call her

wtf?!

― Amateur(ist) (Amateur(ist)), Monday, 4 July 2005 04:22 (twenty years ago)

when you like someone you tend to see as signals things that aren't signals.

― orthodox, Monday, 4 July 2005 04:36 (twenty years ago)

i know

― Amateur(ist) (Amateur(ist)), Monday, 4 July 2005 05:21 (twenty years ago)

can't you just ask?

― orthodox, Monday, 4 July 2005 05:28 (twenty years ago)

101. They dropped off the face of the earth with a 1 sentance excuse, and left all your hopes crushed, in the worst possible way, because you have no relationship experience and didn't have a clue it was going to happen.

― -rainbow bum- (-rainbow bum-), Monday, 4 July 2005 06:35 (twenty years ago)

102. Because they send you (and not just you but all your friends that they have stopped talking to since the breakup, just in case you didn't get the message yourself) invites to their lamer stupid art installation thing that YOU'VE ALREADY HAD TO SIT THROUGH TEN TIMES WHEN YOU WERE DATING THEM.

― MIS Information (kate), Monday, 4 July 2005 10:44 (twenty years ago)

because you don't want to get over them.

― s merritt (ken c), Monday, 4 July 2005 10:53 (twenty years ago)

This thread makes me want to curl up and die.

― tissp! (the impossible shortest specia), Monday, 4 July 2005 11:02 (twenty years ago)

103. Because their arm is caught in your transmission.

― nickalicious (nickalicious), Tuesday, 5 July 2005 17:17 (twenty years ago)

104. Because even though you haven't spoken in months, they suddenly email you transcripts of their "hilarious" online dating chitchat. Just to let you know they've moved on...

― rogermexico (rogermexico), Tuesday, 5 July 2005 17:45 (twenty years ago)

104. Because even though you haven't spoken in months, they suddenly email you transcripts of their "hilarious" online dating chitchat. Just to let you know they've moved on...

That's horrible.

― Tantrum The Cat (Tantrum The Cat), Tuesday, 5 July 2005 18:03 (twenty years ago)

105. Because you really don't think you'll meet someone who'll make you feel so safe (in a way that you didn't think you'd want to feel it and never had before).

― Lara (Lara), Tuesday, 5 July 2005 18:30 (twenty years ago)

106. Because it's really hard to look after yourself, all by yourself, even during the good times.

― Lara (Lara), Tuesday, 5 July 2005 18:31 (twenty years ago)

107. It's hard to admit that you might not really be 'special' after all...

― Lara (Lara), Tuesday, 5 July 2005 18:32 (twenty years ago)

108. It's hard to admit that he/she might not really be 'special' after all...

― Orange (Orange), Tuesday, 5 July 2005 19:05 (twenty years ago)

109. because when you met, you were 22 and now you're 40.

― The Landlord's Daughter (The Landlord's Daughter), Tuesday, 5 July 2005 19:08 (twenty years ago)

or 60.

― The Landlord's Daughter (The Landlord's Daughter), Tuesday, 5 July 2005 19:09 (twenty years ago)

110. Because they come back.

― nickalicious (nickalicious), Tuesday, 5 July 2005 19:40 (twenty years ago)

111. Because theyre a horse and OMG YOU NEED HORSE COCK SO BAD

― Marcia, Tuesday, 5 July 2005 20:18 (twenty years ago)

Please move that last one over to the "Top 100 reasons why it's so hard to get over horses sometimes" thread.

― n/a (Nick A.), Tuesday, 5 July 2005 20:23 (twenty years ago)

two weeks pass...

re: reason #111, see Ways you don't want to die #33829: Accidentally ass fucked to death and plastered all over the news

― rogermexico (rogermexico), Thursday, 21 July 2005 22:13 (twenty years ago)

112. Because a propos of nothing in particular, they wonder aloud "is it too late to have a baby together? because you've got really good genes."

― rogermexico (rogermexico), Thursday, 21 July 2005 22:15 (twenty years ago)

-- MIS Information (masonicboo...), July 4th, 2005.

104. Because even though you haven't spoken in months, they suddenly email you transcripts of their "hilarious" online dating chitchat. Just to let you know they've moved on...

Perfect!

― lo, Thursday, 21 July 2005 23:45 (twenty years ago)

105. Because their new significant other works at Barnes and Noble and now you can't shop there anymore so you have to drive ALL THE WAY to Borders, and you are lazy.

― Laura H. (laurah), Friday, 22 July 2005 00:18 (twenty years ago)

oops, 113.

― Laura H. (laurah), Friday, 22 July 2005 00:19 (twenty years ago)

Because you read old e-mails, which is obviously stupid to do, and remember that between being strangers and being strangers again there was a time when you meant something to each other... and you know you'll never be more than strangers again.

― scout (scout), Friday, 22 July 2005 01:11 (twenty years ago)

oh yeah that's so true. i have to make myself permanently delete every email/text message that exists or i read them over and over. torture.

― gem (trisk), Friday, 22 July 2005 01:15 (twenty years ago)

114. Because maybe you've changed a bit and maybe they've changed a bit and maybe you're truly totally perfect for each other now.

― rrrobyn (rrrobyn), Friday, 22 July 2005 01:41 (twenty years ago)

that line of thinking is tailor-made to bring one down.

― shine headlights on me (electricsound), Friday, 22 July 2005 01:42 (twenty years ago)

Why did I read this thread?! Must go read P0wer of N0w, er, now. fack.

― rrrobyn (rrrobyn), Friday, 22 July 2005 01:44 (twenty years ago)

Oh, it sure is, it sure is. Not going to fall into it.
xpost

― rrrobyn (rrrobyn), Friday, 22 July 2005 01:46 (twenty years ago)

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