Big Brother (UK 2004) - Guess the next two weeks? : thread 6

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that's my two weeks hope.

Marco gone, Jason gone, and *All* the housemates up for voting out by the time ILX back. And Becki will be favourite to go (or Victor).

"He's gotta understand, man, there's only one stallion in this house"

Jason to be a grumpy cnut, Nadia to turn into an OK person without Marco in the house, Ahmed to start enjoying himself again, again, and to cop off with Becki once Jason has left the house. Stuart to dump Michelle, with her asking (and being refused) to leave. Shell to get her kit off at some point. Dan to be 'nice'. Victor to be the George Bush of the house.

Presumably not wanting a 'les exp'

So, I was closest. Except Jason is not gone.

The pretendy wedding is on Wednesday. The groom is Victor, the bride is Shell. Apparently Michelle is disappointed.

he probably has a hedgehog to feed. or something.

Somehow he even managed to make proclaiming oneself 'a loveable rogue' and 'the man you love to hate' endearing.

VIC-VIP-RIP

you are right. catfood is better.

I loved the blatant anti-Stuart editing of last night's final five minutes. First him being all triumphalist about not having been nominated, then that truly horrifying weightlifting hall of mirrors, then the bum preening.

What happened to all that 'Nadia wants to seduce Victor' stuff on the front page of one of the tabs yesterday? That'd make for high drama plus wonderful comic potential when Davina reveals the truth on eviction night...

"Did he use a tool to give it to you or did he use his hands?" continued Shell.

"A tool," Michelle giggled.

I saw this on the e-4 forum programme (repeated last night on Channel 4). It so works better with the canned laughter effect

p.s. Michelle will actually win. Ohyeah.

Dan is like watching Marc Almond's little brother.

Anyway, saved from oblivion on TWX, I posted this set of Victor quotes. Worth repeating.

“My DNA stands for Dis Negro is Attractive”

“When I’m with a woman you could call me the milkman coz I always deliver.”

“ I’m gonna treat this game like having sex with a beautiful woman. You obviously have to make her feel good, warm it up a little – when it’s all ready, go for full penetration.”

“Nadia a.k.a Hack Jaw a.k.a Mrs Jimmy Hill Jaw a.k.a Sink the f**king titanic with my jaw.”

“Kitten is more wobbly than Rik Waller doing a belly dance on a three legged table.”

“It’s time to pick those suckers off one by one. That’s how it’s going down.”

on michelle..."if i was single i'd bang her"

"A beer in the hand is worth two in the fridge"

“I’m one smart son of a b*tch!”

“They call me ‘The Slick’ coz I
always get the job done.”

“You’ve got to stalk your prey
properly. Let her drink at the
watering hole and then pounce.”

“Ideally I’d like for Emma to leave to free up some room in the bathroom coz she sh*ts like 10 times a day! It’s like physiologically impossible. There are no bounds where the W.C world and she’s concerned.”

“Yeah you know if we were on the streets it wouldn’t have gone down like that. No one wants beef with me man, you know what I’m saying.”

“Emma maybe the most stupidest person on the face of this earth and I think that her time would be better spent in four years of night school learning her alphabets again.”

“They call me the plumber coz when I get close to women and start working I like to lay pipe, you know what I mean?”

“When it's stiff, u know, I got girth! They call me the girth man.”

“There’s a sayin where I come from, cut the grass and the snakes
will show their faces.”

To Davina “Oi! This ain’t no BT phone ad!”

“If you’re going to cheat on somebody it should really be with someone better looking.”

“If we were outside it’d be a different story I’d tell you that.”

“Some men will rise to the challenge other men will fall,
When it comes to the come down if you can’t swim you’ll drown,
And one way or another who will be the victor?”

“Anyone who can approach a black man they don’t know and call him a ****** on the first night just does not think.”

“I'd like to be richer than Bill Gates, so I
can walk up to him and say 'What's
going on, boy?'"

“I don't walk on eggshells for nobody. You
can give someone leeway if they've got a
problem, but no one talks to me with disrespect."

“Before me there was many, after me there will be none, I will not stop here until my work is done.”

"I plan to go to gay bars so I can meet girls without competition"

“Bring it straight to Victor and say what you've got to say.”

"I first thought Emma had a face only a blind mother could love."

"Time goes slower in here than Vanessa Feltz metabolism"

On Emma “She’s like an animal, even a monkey has more brain power than her.”

“I’m a contender, u know a champion,
depending on how you come back
shows how good a champion you are.”

"Men don’t mind good looking lesbians"

"I’m going to get ill if you keep giving
me cold showers, I’ve got the sniffles already".

Talking about the cameras “You Cant take a sh*t without a fibre optic camera pointing up your anus."

“Fat women are like mopeds, they're both alright for a ride until your mates see you with them."

"I always tell my friends when they get into arguments with old people, I stop them and say 'look, don't argue with this guy - he probably killed people in World War Two. 'He's killed before and he'll kill again!"

Talking about his game plan "I’m gonna take my time ... make them think that I'm not a threat ... and then alpha-male them to death.”

Victor (to Stu): "It's ok for you, you are gonna get your thing hard tonight... what kind of day have I had? I’ve walked in on Ahmed. (In the loo) not once, but twice... straining as he turns to look at me... what kind of a day is that?”

“Let them have their mourning time... then I'm going after the rest of them [Nadia, Marco and Michelle]. If they came in here to have fun, they should have saved their time, gone to the funfair instead.”

"Men can sleep around and get high 5s from their mates… But women get called slags in reality",

"It is time to separate the wheat from the chaff, the weak from the boys.”

“Let this be the first time the bad guy wins."

“To be the man you got to beat the man. And I am the man.”

"Better not drop the soap in the shower
there are too many gay and bisexual guys in here.”

“Let me give you some information... everyone in there still loves me! Why is that, people at home? ... I'm a loveable rogue. You can't help but like me - I grow on you like moss... it's just one of them things."

“Nadia seems to have found a way of harnessing TRAPJAW'S (from He-Man) DNA and fusing it with her own to create some new being.”

“I waged the war on terrorism and become the George Bush of this house and my administrative team doesn’t like terrorists.”

“The first person I see booing me, I have a lung full of spit for them.”

“Man I hate flip-flops, they mess
wiv ma walk!”

“Sometimes people take my
kindness for my weakness.”

“All I’ve got is my pride and my
balls.”

On Nadia “Sometimes I catch her looking at me from the corner of my eye, meaning she either fancies me or wants to kill me.”

"If my son ain't outside here when I leave, I'm gonna jump over the barriers and catch the night bus home."

“I thinks it’s about time we started mixing it up in here, get a bit f**kin’ lively.” (Kicks Pillow)

Nominating Dan "Dan A.k.a ‘Gandalf the Gay’ Its time for him to have a coke, a smile and get the f**k out of this house!

“This house is already filled with enough village idiots without the new girl coming in.”

Dan: I wouldn't know what to do if someone was having a panic attack.

Victor: Don't you just give them a slap?

Victor's theory on why BB put Becki in the House "She is opened to being banged"

To Marco about his eviction “It’s kinda like we’re all different genres of film and that’s it’s too early for your genre to come off the shelf.”

"I'm a chess player.....I make moves"

“Marco when you get out watch the tape…Your being a bloody idiot now man.”

“The only thing that they could have done to make Becki better is make her more attractive.”

About school, "I Used to see my name scrawled on desks and I thought 'Woah! Those chicks wanna bang me!"

About Becki "When I first saw her she looked rodent-like. I thought I might have to call Rentokil to sort this gaff out."

“I don’t trust anybody but myself, coz when you put your trust in someone that’s when they go and do something stupid.”

To big bro after taking his noms away "You left me like a sitting duck... 'cos it's hunting season,"

"I don't say much, and when I do say something that means it's serious,"

"I do more dirt than a mole, a worm. I play dirty. Everybody in here knows I do"

Victor totally overshizzlenizzled his pudding in the diary room nominations, I thought.

"I don't know what you're upset for, you've got your way. And anyway, it doesn't mean anything it's not important." Michelle doesn't get her way about something quite important to her.

I am impressed with Michelle's resourcefulness, spotting the opportunity that the table provided.

The '"'m going to handcuff every part of him to the walls" bit earlier was also impressive, in its own way

I suspect, despite all the professed hate in various places for the JCs, that Victor and Jason being up could substantially split the voting and Dan could be in real trouble. He obviously thinks this himself, as he left the stag party last night to 'be one of the girls'. You have to ask also if he was genuinely serious about his "I'll walk if I might win" threats, why he's getting upset about being up for eviction - this must be getting picked up in the house as well.

Nadia 5/6
Daniel 100/30
Victor 5/1
Stuart 7/1
Shell 10/1
Michelle 12/1
Jason 100/1

Lots of money must have been going on Victor, but no one seems to be backing Michelle as only Jason is less fancied than her.

"number 6 in the house, number 1 in your hearts"

"dont mess with the ghetto V I C or you'll R I P, yeah for real...er and can we have some bread and milk please, thanks mate"

"I take names. You're in my pocket. Shut your mouth. Rest your gums, I own you, bi'atch."

I doubt he can win, but he should. Fo' shizzle.

Daniel 100/30

Can someone explain to me why bookies sometimes give odds like this? Why 100/30 rather than 10/3?

Alba - bookies quote odds in that scale because 10/3 (ten to three) could easily be mistaken for the time of a race. therefore, they quote the odds so it doesn't cause confusion on placing the bet.

It is common convention, as it really wouldn't confuse anyone on big brother betting.

Is/was Stuart a virgin? That's one of the things I was wondering about last night.

xpost, she has yes.

Dan and Shell discussing failing the task and having to live off basic rations for the week and potentially incurring victor's wrath:

She told Dan if they lost the shopping, "[Vic's] going to go nuts at us."

"It wont affect him anyway," said Dan, apparently certain of Victor's departure on Friday.

Looking briefly at the odds, and my maths could be way out, and a bit wrong, currently out of every £100 bet £60 is on Nadia to win, £15 on Dan, shell only £5 and Jason only 50p

They like to vote for someone who's a 'national treasure' in some way, I think, as well as someone who's not a threat to them in any way. Women rarely win, but Nadia is a special case, being a crazy Portuguese transsexual.

I do think the odds on Nadia should be (maybe are) lengthening. She's in a real rut at the moment - as I said I think unless she perks up, she's in danger of having peaked too early. I think a lot could still change, depending on what happens in the next couple of weeks.

I'd say Dan, Shell and Jason are the only ones who I can't imagine winning it.

xpost Dan 'could' win. Stuart is a good looking chap but has no pers. away from Michelle.

x post - they currently have a mini-task involving pole dancing (!) according to ds:bb

in week 1 nobody was saying "nadia 2 win" at all, or even mentioning her much, but for about the last 3 weeks the majority of txts seem to say this. mind you, Ahmed was also getting a lot of +ve txts about 5 days before he got evicted - his behaviour during the boot camp task probably did for him. Victor is still running about 50-50 on supportive and negative txts.

How cool would that be?

"Oho! would'st had been done! Thou didst prevent me; I had peopled
else this isle with Victors. Shizzle my nizzle!"

And not that much with her either. The Emma and Michelle double act > > > the Stuart and Michelle double act.

The only people I can't see winning are Michelle and Jason.

Eh? There've only been three winners so far and one was a woman. All it takes is one more and we're back to 50/50.

I'm getting increasingly pissed off with Michelle's double standards and insensitivity - it's OK for her to lick jam off nipples but not for him to get in the jacuzzi with other girls and she's happy to brag to her mates (and x million viewers) about what she's up to, even though he's asked her to keep it quiet. I honestly don't know why Stuart hasn't just said "look, I'm a private person and I don't want to do anything in front of any cameras". Unfortunately, I can see him caving in to the promise of OK cash and staying with her for a month or so after they come out of the house to do a couple of photo shoots and Our Story interviews but they're definitely not going to turn into Helen and Paul.

Also, I was talking in a broader international context.

http://bigbrother.channel4.com/bigbrother/news/newsstory.jsp?id=6553

That would be more believeable if he hadn't got involved with her in the first place, or if he wasn't in a house surrounded by cameras watching his every move.

I like the virgin theory. Also the psychologist lady on BBLB today had a good theory - that he hides behind her loud personality to make himself seem more harmless and pleasant.

Not that I'm on Big Brother UK.

Victor was quite revelaing last night -- he has four sisters, so doesn't seem to find anything odd about his, uh, direct way of handling angered females.

Dan totally 0WN3D Victor last night without even having to say very much. Also he looked like a Tim Burton character sitting in that suit, grinning manaically at Victor.

(this was followed by another such character in 'Missing Me Already?'. was disappointed when she turned up under the clock in the end.)

that said, ahmed seems to be an entirely different person now he's been re-introduced into society.

Jason on the other hand is either a coward or very cunning and he doesn't seem to out anybody, as you say he just sits and bitches to Victor about it.

maybe we shd!

ahmed seems to be an entirely different person now he's been re-introduced into society

how so? details? (I haven't seen anything of ahmed post-eviction)

isn't it though? i was thinking more of an insane asylum but... 8)

> how so? details? (I haven't seen anything of ahmed post-eviction)

he's been funny, flirty and kind on bblb this week (was given a choice of three places to visit for the morning, chose the school and seemed to be really genuine and enjoying himself with the kids who were delighted he was there). hasn't been afraid to take the mickey out of himself a bit either (on the floor between two giant slices of bread and assorted salad stuff - 'Dermot, i've changed my mind...')