Big Brother (UK 2004) - The Vinegar Strokes: thread 9

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Big Brother (UK 2004) - Chain of fools: thread 8

So, here we are in the last week:

Apparently Wednesday's eviction will be a complete surprise, with the unlucky housemate simply called to the Diary Room and removed during a party, with the other housemates to be told at some point later on.

Also, I missed the Jason wanking incident, but I'm curious as to why Endemol chose to show it. They seem to only show it when people are trying to hide it (think Ray last year), whereas the way round it seems to be upfront about it. Apparently in BB1 Craig cracked one off directly into camera every morning for the last couple of weeks, safe in the knowledge they would never use it.

Michelle has been dull in the extreme.

― aldo_cowpat (aldo_cowpat), Monday, 2 August 2004 09:47 (twenty-one years ago)

I had heard about Craig's wanking but not that he actually did it directly into the camera. All over the wall?

― Alba (Alba), Monday, 2 August 2004 09:51 (twenty-one years ago)

I have to confess to not knowing the exact details of where Little Craig was directed. Apparently though, yes.

I've read a couple of claims Ahmed did the same thing more than once this series.

― aldo_cowpat (aldo_cowpat), Monday, 2 August 2004 09:54 (twenty-one years ago)

Michelle has a Beyonce-esque dead-eye no-comment attitude. I suppose there's no reason to begrudge her success, should it in factoccur, but she's a bit withholding, no?

― ENRQ (Enrique), Monday, 2 August 2004 09:58 (twenty-one years ago)

I have a feeling that Michelle, like Jade, is never going to go away.

― Matt DC (Matt DC), Monday, 2 August 2004 10:01 (twenty-one years ago)

2 days later and she poured everything out to the Daily Star on Sunday, at least 4 pages of the stuff.

― Ste (Fuzzy), Monday, 2 August 2004 10:01 (twenty-one years ago)

Teh Jade Story is a total mystery to me. She had a kid with some guy (Jeff) and then split up with him, right? What's the big deal? What does she do?

xpost

Oooh, what was in the Star?

― ENRQ (Enrique), Monday, 2 August 2004 10:03 (twenty-one years ago)

I am so happy michelle is gone, although it's quite worrying how much stu is enjoying chocolate. I mean the dude closed his eyes ffs! Anyway, Davina's interview was slightly off on Friday, but i'm sure that was just because she didnt like michelle & knew that her story would appear in a tabloid!

― PinXor (Pinkpanther), Monday, 2 August 2004 10:11 (twenty-one years ago)

Latest Betfair odds:

Nadia: 1.23
Jason: 14.5
Daniel 16.5
Stuart: 22
Shell: 42

― Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Monday, 2 August 2004 10:17 (twenty-one years ago)

At his highest point, Jason was trading at 240, meaning that a pound stake would have won you £240 back.

― Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Monday, 2 August 2004 10:18 (twenty-one years ago)

An interviewer does not 'like' it when they meet with a sharktoothed 'no comment' in most situations - it can come off as snotty. The best, most diplomatic thing to do would be to say the beast has two backs and therefore one has to agree with the other party what will be said.

Bullies always say they were joking, but whether you take them at their word...I didn't with Michelle. I did like Shell going 'what's your girlfriend's name, Suart?' and him going all d'oh.

― suzy (suzy), Monday, 2 August 2004 10:20 (twenty-one years ago)

I think Davina disliked her because Davina was Michelle, more or less, ten years ago: they share that same totally directionless drive for fame, and will go to any lengths, including shagging Enoch Clapton, to get it.

― ENRQ (Enrique), Monday, 2 August 2004 10:27 (twenty-one years ago)

Are you implying Michelle is a turps nudger?

― Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Monday, 2 August 2004 10:31 (twenty-one years ago)

"sharktoothed"

sadly i think a huge part of the reason i am still watching this borefest is so that i can read and contribute to these threads. They are 10X more entertaining than the show is now.

― jed (jed_e_3), Monday, 2 August 2004 11:07 (twenty-one years ago)

DS:BB

Michelle has revealed her plans for life on the outside with Stu - she wants to settle down and have kids.

The aspiring glamour model, 24 - dubbed a 'bunny boiler' by the press - described 20-year-old Stu as the "love of my life."

"He is genuine, loving and imaginative. If I were looking for my ideal man he would tick all my boxes," she said at the weekend.

"I know I've only known Stuart for nine weeks but at some point in my life I want to settle down and have kids - and he is the one I want to do that with. I thank Big Brother for bringing him into my life."

― jed (jed_e_3), Monday, 2 August 2004 11:32 (twenty-one years ago)

and 'Vinegar Strokes'

huh?

― Ste (Fuzzy), Monday, 2 August 2004 11:55 (twenty-one years ago)

Vinegar Strokes:

The end of something. Named after the face a chap might pull at the end of a bout of sexual activity, which looks like he's drinking vinegar. Seemed particularly apt, given the Jason wanking footage. I can't be the only one that uses this phrase, surely?

― aldo_cowpat (aldo_cowpat), Monday, 2 August 2004 12:05 (twenty-one years ago)

http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=vinegar+strokes&b=1

― koogs (koogs), Monday, 2 August 2004 12:42 (twenty-one years ago)

According to the Endemol insider who posts on DS: as of this morning, Nadia ahead of Jason and Dan, but not by much. They're the only three contenders though, and Jason is the one with the momentum.

I would expect Dan to fall away after today's diary room footage is shown when Dan, once more, said to camera that he didn't want to win and that the whole thing was a little vulgar. The only thing the GBP hates more than a bad loser is a bad winner.

― aldo_cowpat (aldo_cowpat), Monday, 2 August 2004 14:24 (twenty-one years ago)

Jason is the most loathesome man in Britain.

― Alba (Alba), Monday, 2 August 2004 20:31 (twenty-one years ago)

Funniest bit of the whole series was when they were making puppets of each other, and The Most Intelligent Man In Britain said that there would have to be an even number of them for them to all be able to do someone other than themselves!

― Martin Skidmore (Martin Skidmore), Monday, 2 August 2004 20:52 (twenty-one years ago)

I liked his desperate attempt to look interesting in the final week: winding a ball of wool around the house.

― Alba (Alba), Monday, 2 August 2004 21:25 (twenty-one years ago)

Like YEAH it's totally a good ball of wool, y'know Shell-bob?

― Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Monday, 2 August 2004 22:14 (twenty-one years ago)

he is so awful.

I want Shell or Dan to win. Can't stand Nadia and Jason's just a tool.

― Ronan (Ronan), Monday, 2 August 2004 22:31 (twenty-one years ago)

I so want Shell to win, but it's just not going to happen. Ah, Shell.

― Alba (Alba), Monday, 2 August 2004 22:43 (twenty-one years ago)

I alternate between thinking "ah Shell" and that she's just a bit too posh.

― Ronan (Ronan), Monday, 2 August 2004 23:01 (twenty-one years ago)

dan or shell will do me, but neither will happen, so.....

― jed (jed_e_3), Monday, 2 August 2004 23:16 (twenty-one years ago)

So, basically, Jason and Dan are good bets if there is an even chance of nadia actually not winning?

― mark grout (mark grout), Tuesday, 3 August 2004 06:43 (twenty-one years ago)

Jason is such a douchebag. I'm just deeply sorry that Dan hasn't started calling him Bitch's Nipple.

― suzy (suzy), Tuesday, 3 August 2004 06:52 (twenty-one years ago)

dan or shell will do me, but neither will happen, so.....
-- jed (c_o_har...) (webmail), August 3rd, 2004. (link)

Yes, but who do you want to win? (legs it..)

― mark grout (mark grout), Tuesday, 3 August 2004 06:53 (twenty-one years ago)

I'm glad Shell's going on Wednesday, considering her sole contribution to this year's show has been to get her arse out and then faint.

― Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Tuesday, 3 August 2004 08:58 (twenty-one years ago)

You haven't got a clue.

― Alba (Alba), Tuesday, 3 August 2004 09:10 (twenty-one years ago)

Well, there was her riveting discussion on feminism...

― Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Tuesday, 3 August 2004 09:14 (twenty-one years ago)

fuck off, shell has contributed much more than freakin' stu or nadia!!

― ENRQ (Enrique), Tuesday, 3 August 2004 09:14 (twenty-one years ago)

Nadia, yes. Stu is more questionable. It's now what he's contributed rather what's happened around him. Channel 4 are still complete tools for not showing the Dan/Victor/Jason discussion of Team Handsome.

― Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Tuesday, 3 August 2004 09:17 (twenty-one years ago)

Channel 4 are still complete tools for not showing the Dan/Victor/Jason discussion of Team Handsome.

????

I still like Shell for that defiant "you're a complete fucking cunt but I'm dancing with you anyway" line.

― Matt DC (Matt DC), Tuesday, 3 August 2004 09:20 (twenty-one years ago)

what was said re TH? or do you mean they silenced it? perhaps it was predictable that ilx wd eventually side with dan and shall, ie the contestants most like ilx0rs, but so it goes.

― ENRQ (Enrique), Tuesday, 3 August 2004 09:23 (twenty-one years ago)

I can't find a full transcript of it, but here's one of the fan site's precises:

Some of his closest allies took the mickey out of baby-faced Stuart this morning, over his membership to the exclusive club known as 'Team Handsome'.

Just in case you didn't know, Team Handsome, or TH as it's known, is the kind-of secret gentlemen's association inexplicably formed by Stu and three of his school chums, after they played a game of footy as the 'skins', i.e. topless.

The team is still very much in operation, but quite what they get up-to apart from looking dashing is anybody's guess?

Anyway, having already given the group a right giggle the other night by revealing the TH logo on his painted plate, the psychology student took flak from Michelle, Dan, Vic and Jay today over the sheer pomposity of it all.

Referring to the absent housemate's little gang, Michelle said, "You (just) don't call your team 'Team Handsome'!" "It's like calling your son Romeo", offered Victor, continuing to mock.

Jason then suggested some potential names for team members, including, 'Fabio, Zeus and Adonis' and Dan ridiculed the way that Stu had recently tried to suggest he was just a kid when it all started, but kept it all going anyway.

But when the man himself came back, Jay couldn't resist asking who the leader of the pack was, with Victor suggesting that it was probably Stuart 'Too Handsome' Wilson himself!

When Vic speculated that members would be turned away for not being good-looking enough, Stu insisted, "It wasn't about looks, it was about a way of life".

Clearly though, having seen the other three members of Team Handsome, they all fancy themselves a bit.

― Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Tuesday, 3 August 2004 09:25 (twenty-one years ago)

What has this to do with whether Stuart should stay in the house longer than Shell?

― Alba (Alba), Tuesday, 3 August 2004 09:29 (twenty-one years ago)

"It wasn't about looks, it was about a way of life".

hahahahahahhahahaahahaha!

― jed (jed_e_3), Tuesday, 3 August 2004 09:29 (twenty-one years ago)

The whole TH thing makes me really want to hate stu. I mean how pretentious is that? Also, all of his mates are fucking ugly!!

― PinXor (Pinkpanther), Tuesday, 3 August 2004 09:31 (twenty-one years ago)

Like we haven't all been practising Team Handsome super-secret hand-signals in private.

― Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Tuesday, 3 August 2004 09:34 (twenty-one years ago)

He's just a kid. You know how groups of boys hang out and think their in jokes and ironic sense of humour are the funniest things ever? Leave him be. He's just a bit dull.

― Alba (Alba), Tuesday, 3 August 2004 09:34 (twenty-one years ago)

He's dull & a complete lap dog that has no back bone! How that can be construed as 'handsome' is beyond me!

― PinXor (Pinkpanther), Tuesday, 3 August 2004 09:35 (twenty-one years ago)

Team Invertebrate Poodle was rejected at an early stage in their career.

― Alba (Alba), Tuesday, 3 August 2004 09:39 (twenty-one years ago)

The only time he gets animated is when he's acting all "team handsome" lad bonding rituals. Either on his own or with that 'video message'.

― mark grout (mark grout), Tuesday, 3 August 2004 09:44 (twenty-one years ago)

Team-Mate would be a better name.

― Ronan (Ronan), Tuesday, 3 August 2004 09:44 (twenty-one years ago)

Even sex with michelle, where she's sighing 'yes yes' and he's going 'mmm maybe, yeah.'

― mark grout (mark grout), Tuesday, 3 August 2004 09:45 (twenty-one years ago)

He'll definately get a shut eye with a bang when he leaves the house. He'll still go out with michelle for at least 5 years cos he's scared of her, though.

― jed (jed_e_3), Tuesday, 3 August 2004 09:47 (twenty-one years ago)

Wednesday: The expelled housemate will go in the middle of a party, i.e. get called to the diary room and 'never get seen again'.....

― mark grout (mark grout), Tuesday, 3 August 2004 19:50 (twenty-one years ago)

That's what aldo said at the start of the thread, mark!

― Alba (Alba), Tuesday, 3 August 2004 19:53 (twenty-one years ago)

Today's slice mathematical genius from Stu: "Maybe they're all allowing us all only one nomination so that there's an odd number and it has to end up with just one person getting the most votes [pause] ... is that right?"

Why didn't evil Big Brother just blackmail them into obeying the rules by saying "Unless you all nominate then Shell will be automatically evicted?"

― Alba (Alba), Tuesday, 3 August 2004 20:50 (twenty-one years ago)

Dan = twat.

"It wouldn't look very good on your CV, would it, winning Big Brother."

What, as opposed to having 'failed to win Big Brother' on your CV? I could quite happily like him, but he can't help this air that he's somehow above being on the show. NOBODY FORCED YOU TO APPLY.

― aldo_cowpat (aldo_cowpat), Tuesday, 3 August 2004 20:53 (twenty-one years ago)

(Aldo: I know, I was just reviving the thread back onto the board).

― mark grout (mark grout), Tuesday, 3 August 2004 20:56 (twenty-one years ago)

http://bigbrother.channel4.com/bigbrother/media/latest-pics/week-10/day%2067/g67_1735_jasonbond.jpg = http://www.80snostalgia.com/classictv/worzelgummidge/characters/worzel.jpg

jason, how are you today?

"i'd like a nice cuppa tea and a slice a lardy cake."

― jed (jed_e_3), Tuesday, 3 August 2004 20:57 (twenty-one years ago)

Aldo, he wants to be in there, on balance. It's just that there is balancing to be done.

I sort of see what he means about BB contestant vs. BB winner, as far as electroclash cred is concerned.

― Alba (Alba), Tuesday, 3 August 2004 20:57 (twenty-one years ago)

I was going to post that Stuart bit too - can he really not count?

― Martin Skidmore (Martin Skidmore), Tuesday, 3 August 2004 21:05 (twenty-one years ago)

So does Dan _actually_ not want to win, or is he just using the Jack Dee Celebrity Big Brother 1 tactic?

― Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Tuesday, 3 August 2004 21:11 (twenty-one years ago)

jealousy isn't very becoming.

― RJG (RJG), Tuesday, 3 August 2004 21:12 (twenty-one years ago)

'course he wants to win. a bit.

― jed (jed_e_3), Tuesday, 3 August 2004 21:16 (twenty-one years ago)

There's also a self-protective element: if he wins, fine, if he doesn't well he didn't want to anyway.

― Martin Skidmore (Martin Skidmore), Tuesday, 3 August 2004 21:18 (twenty-one years ago)

Yes, but what he also fails to realise is that it also "wouldn't look good on your CV" to go back on your word in front of the whole nation. It's not as if he's only said he'd walk once, he's said it several times. Would you hire someone like that? (Yes, I know exactly why he's doing it - he's playing the game, the HMs and the public - but most Dan fans don't see it that way.)

I was struck with a thought about Nadia last night. Nadia fans claim she's "funny". How is she funny? All the humour around her seems to be based on her accent or misunderstanding English - laughing *at* her and not *with* her. Do these people all sit and watch "Mind Your Language", roffling? It's the same principle.

― aldo_cowpat (aldo_cowpat), Wednesday, 4 August 2004 05:54 (twenty-one years ago)

Winner (Best odds)

Nadia 1/10
Jason 9/1
Daniel 14/1
Stuart 25/1
Shell 40/1

So, a 'covering' bet on Jason and Daniel (Stuart optional) would be worth a go?

(Only as it seems too 'cut and dried' Nadia being the winner at this point...?)

― mark grout (mark grout), Wednesday, 4 August 2004 06:25 (twenty-one years ago)

Bloody hell, it's not as if Dan's the only housemate who's made noises about wanting to walk - Michelle threatened to do it a zillion times mid-tantrum. In Dan's case, it's the kind of thing you say to a thick, over-competitive Victor-type person to give them something unattractive to rant about as your 'shortcoming', which they will 'deconstruct' to the point of obsession. Then you ask them if they haven't anything better to think about and watch steam trails come out of their ears.

― suzy (suzy), Wednesday, 4 August 2004 06:55 (twenty-one years ago)

Yeah, but the first in relation only to not actually wanting to be the winner.

I think his CV is screwed anyhow. He will always be "BB Dan" whatever he does from now on...

― mark grout (mark grout), Wednesday, 4 August 2004 07:06 (twenty-one years ago)

I'm fairly none of the contestants will have any probs getting jobs in the future, whatever it says on their CV

― Ste (Fuzzy), Wednesday, 4 August 2004 07:37 (twenty-one years ago)

http://bigbrother.channel4.com/bigbrother/media/mobile/michelle_money_136x141.jpg

― Catty (Catty), Wednesday, 4 August 2004 10:13 (twenty-one years ago)

disturbing.
http://bigbrother.channel4.com/bigbrother/media/news/69/0223_jayprepares_h.jpg http://bigbrother.channel4.com/bigbrother/media/news/69/0223_jayprepares1_h.jpg

― Catty (Catty), Wednesday, 4 August 2004 10:15 (twenty-one years ago)

Memo to Jason: make sure application covers back, sac and crack OK thx bye.

― suzy (suzy), Wednesday, 4 August 2004 10:23 (twenty-one years ago)

I had a terrible dream last night that I was in the BB house and it got to the end and Shell was revealed to be a mole who'd been putting on an act and who in reality liked bad boys with sports cars. I felt such a mug.

― Alba (Alba), Wednesday, 4 August 2004 10:37 (twenty-one years ago)

can i just reiterate that I hate the petty aspects of Evil BB (latest example being the "mind games" on last night's highlights prog), although I did laugh at Nadia's searching the diary room for a reason for her being called there. (NB - laughed *with* not *at* her. She rose above the crap again, as indeed did all the HMs by refusing to nominate.)

― zebedee (zebedee), Wednesday, 4 August 2004 11:31 (twenty-one years ago)

I agree she was funny when she was searching the diary room. Heels in the shower was funny too.

But anything else? I can't remember anything.

― aldo_cowpat (aldo_cowpat), Wednesday, 4 August 2004 11:42 (twenty-one years ago)

She just is. I think she's funnier to watch for a few minutes than she would be to live with. Her 'ohmygod!' shrieking, her loud, out-of-tune singing and her fake outrage at everything everyone says to her are all pretty entertaining, but in a drag queen sort of way. Living with her would make me crazy, but watching her is amusing. I don't just think it's because she's a funny foreigner.

I laughed out loud at BB saying 'you must not discuss this conversation with anyone' and her saying 'did we have a conversation? I don't remember one'. It's all getting a bit daft now.

― accentmonkey (accentmonkey), Wednesday, 4 August 2004 11:56 (twenty-one years ago)

Shell hurting her foot was the cutest thing I have ever seen.

― Alba (Alba), Wednesday, 4 August 2004 19:26 (twenty-one years ago)

Agreed. She woz luvly. She was also the funny bit over the end credits.

Shell 2 win! (until she goes in an hour)

― aldo_cowpat (aldo_cowpat), Wednesday, 4 August 2004 19:28 (twenty-one years ago)

I know how bad my grammatical editorial obsession is now. Every time Davina said that the housemate with the least votes would be evicted tonight, I was shouting "fewest!" at the TV. Dearie me.

― Martin Skidmore (Martin Skidmore), Wednesday, 4 August 2004 19:33 (twenty-one years ago)

huh? shell hurting her foot was pretty stupid.

― cºzen (Cozen), Wednesday, 4 August 2004 19:37 (twenty-one years ago)

Martin, I did that once, even though I don't even care.

Cozen, you like weird women.

― Alba (Alba), Wednesday, 4 August 2004 19:41 (twenty-one years ago)

I love shell. but that was just a silly thing to do.

― cºzen (Cozen), Wednesday, 4 August 2004 19:42 (twenty-one years ago)

plus I'm getting irrationally irritated by the love fr her on this thread, sorry. : /

― cºzen (Cozen), Wednesday, 4 August 2004 19:42 (twenty-one years ago)

Of course it was a silly thing to do, but I love that she was the only one upset by their breaching of the privacy of the nomination process, and I loved the way she did it.

― Alba (Alba), Wednesday, 4 August 2004 19:44 (twenty-one years ago)

Shell seems lovely, yeah.
Ahmed was very funny in the diary room for the nominations. I think he will continue to make me laugh.
Michelle also seems OK.
Millie Tant is entertaining. Millie in the jacuzzi sweating it out, sticking to her 'I'm gonna use this platform to make a stand and this is my first action' was OK - you couldn't be annoyed by her, she's so daft. And maybe a bit sad. It was weird Davina piling on the contempt.
Barry Moussaka is also too much of a caricature to annoy.
Emma was the one who seemed to feel most sorrow that one person would have to do without their suitcase. That was sweet and made me warm to her.
Victor was great the way he made no pretence about it being a hard decision. No arsing about getting them to clarify the question. No ooh and ahhing. Just 'Kitten'.
Stuart is better looking than I thought.

-- N. (nickdastoo...), May 30th, 2004 5:41 PM.
I think I fell in love with shell.
nadia reminds me of desperate dan. : / that's a nasty thing to say.
stuart is ugly.
jason seems 'genuine'.
I like emma, a lot. haha the stuff abt 'home-osexuals'.

-- cozen (coze...), May 30th, 2004 5:49 PM.

Ah, happy days.

― Alba (Alba), Wednesday, 4 August 2004 19:47 (twenty-one years ago)

FEWEST! Me too. I don't want Shell to go :(

― Madchen (Madchen), Wednesday, 4 August 2004 20:01 (twenty-one years ago)

I said I loved her!

― cºzen (Cozen), Wednesday, 4 August 2004 20:02 (twenty-one years ago)

it's the superscript o.

― cºzen (Cozen), Wednesday, 4 August 2004 20:02 (twenty-one years ago)

HAHAHAHA Have people seen what happened yet???

― VengaDan Perry (Dan Perry), Wednesday, 4 August 2004 20:23 (twenty-one years ago)

Stu's out! Shell lives!!!

― Alba (Alba), Wednesday, 4 August 2004 20:37 (twenty-one years ago)

Stu less popular than Shell shockah!

― aldo_cowpat (aldo_cowpat), Wednesday, 4 August 2004 20:38 (twenty-one years ago)

(I still say Jason & Nadia for the final two though, her odds are beginning to lengthen again as his come in)

― aldo_cowpat (aldo_cowpat), Wednesday, 4 August 2004 20:39 (twenty-one years ago)

Poor, poor Stu!

― Crackity (Crackity Jones), Wednesday, 4 August 2004 20:49 (twenty-one years ago)

I warmed to Stuart considerably from his reaction to the eviction. He was so excited and happy!

― Martin Skidmore (Martin Skidmore), Wednesday, 4 August 2004 20:58 (twenty-one years ago)

me too - what a nice boy.

― jed (jed_e_3), Wednesday, 4 August 2004 20:59 (twenty-one years ago)

I really like him too. He just seems so genuine and childlike, in the best possible way. I hope he tells Michelle where to boil her bunnies though, and soon.

― Crackity (Crackity Jones), Wednesday, 4 August 2004 21:03 (twenty-one years ago)

I now have high hopes for their relationship.

He's a good kid, but I don't want to watch him anymore.

― Alba (Alba), Wednesday, 4 August 2004 21:04 (twenty-one years ago)

Yes, I seem to have misjudged him slightly - I thought it was an act. I now realise he genuinely has a mental/emotional age of under 10 and have warmed to him immensely.

A pity it's too late.

― aldo_cowpat (aldo_cowpat), Wednesday, 4 August 2004 21:05 (twenty-one years ago)

It must do strange things to a boy having a mother as hott as his.

― Alba (Alba), Wednesday, 4 August 2004 21:06 (twenty-one years ago)

haha - i didnt get to see her.

― jed (jed_e_3), Wednesday, 4 August 2004 21:16 (twenty-one years ago)

I have to say, I was a bit baffled by the rest of the housemates tonight:

"They were shouting 'Stu! Stu!' outside! He must have won, and they're just keeping us in here for another hour or two!"

― caitlin (caitlin), Wednesday, 4 August 2004 21:19 (twenty-one years ago)

yeah - on a wednesday night? get a grip.

― jed (jed_e_3), Wednesday, 4 August 2004 21:26 (twenty-one years ago)

I think they maybe thought it was mean to Stu to suggest that he might have been the least popular.

― Alba (Alba), Wednesday, 4 August 2004 21:27 (twenty-one years ago)

I felt quite sorry for Stu when I was watching that eviction show tonight. It's almost like he's only just realised what he did when he was in the house.

― jellybean (jellybean), Wednesday, 4 August 2004 21:30 (twenty-one years ago)

The moment I felt really sorry for him was when Michelle stepped out of the audience.

― caitlin (caitlin), Wednesday, 4 August 2004 21:33 (twenty-one years ago)

he should have said, "Wow babe, you've gotten fat. AMAZING!"

― Catty (Catty), Wednesday, 4 August 2004 21:35 (twenty-one years ago)

IF YOU SAY "HE'S WON IT" ONE MORE TIME I AM GOING TO CUNT YOU DOWN AND KILL YOU JASON

― RJG (RJG), Wednesday, 4 August 2004 22:25 (twenty-one years ago)

Live feed right now: Dan is explaining chutney and sandwiches to Nadia.

― James Mitchell (James Mitchell), Wednesday, 4 August 2004 23:09 (twenty-one years ago)

Q: Which tabloid newspaper devoted 5 pages of its early edition to an exclusive on the latest Big Brother evictee, SHELL and had to make a swift change for later editions? Ho ho.

― Madchen (Madchen), Thursday, 5 August 2004 04:48 (twenty-one years ago)

Is it an anagram of ARST?

― mark grout (mark grout), Thursday, 5 August 2004 06:45 (twenty-one years ago)

Stu really looked like a winner last night and I could just imagine the production team being pissed off that the real winner won't give them so much unbridled enthusiasm when he or she comes out of the house. I felt so sorry for him when he realised in the diary room that they weren't getting some kind of treat. His little face slowly collapsed, like a balloon after a child's birthday party. Aw, bless.

― accentmonkey (accentmonkey), Thursday, 5 August 2004 07:25 (twenty-one years ago)

I am afraid to report that I dreamt I was watching footage of Stu receiving a post-eviction blowjob on E4.

― Alba (Alba), Thursday, 5 August 2004 07:39 (twenty-one years ago)

EW!

― Ricardo (RickyT), Thursday, 5 August 2004 07:40 (twenty-one years ago)

Stu's jumping around on the stage immediately post eviction = the scene in Zoolander where Derek and Hansel bash the iMac in a simian stylee.

― Ricardo (RickyT), Thursday, 5 August 2004 07:43 (twenty-one years ago)

Stu's jumping around on the stage immediately post eviction = Andrew WK video.

― mark grout (mark grout), Thursday, 5 August 2004 07:45 (twenty-one years ago)

i spent the entire davina interview wondering whether he'd had the chance to go to the toilet beforehand.

― koogs (koogs), Thursday, 5 August 2004 07:50 (twenty-one years ago)

Pictures of Stu's mum please, in the interests of science!

― Matt DC (Matt DC), Thursday, 5 August 2004 07:53 (twenty-one years ago)

How far were Stu'd eyebrows raised? Totally stunned the whole way through! Very sweet in the interview, he didn't look happy when he saw the headlines.

― PinXor (Pinkpanther), Thursday, 5 August 2004 07:59 (twenty-one years ago)

haha, "have i got time to go to the toilet?". now that was comedy.

― Ste (Fuzzy), Thursday, 5 August 2004 08:01 (twenty-one years ago)

Indeed. I enjoyed stu's stage antics, but not as much as when marco ran over to his mum, slipped & totally took her out!!! Not that was classic.

― PinXor (Pinkpanther), Thursday, 5 August 2004 08:02 (twenty-one years ago)

I'd take her out, raffle raffle.

― Alba (Alba), Thursday, 5 August 2004 08:04 (twenty-one years ago)

Oh, hang on - not Marco's mum. Ew.

I didn't actually see Stu's mum last night but she's been on BB:LB before and Dermot is very keen on her.

― Alba (Alba), Thursday, 5 August 2004 08:05 (twenty-one years ago)

she's what we once innocently called a MILF before spam made that term dirty.

― ENRQ (Enrique), Thursday, 5 August 2004 08:08 (twenty-one years ago)

Euw dude! Maybe you fancy Jade's mum? Gammy arm & all!

― PinXor (Pinkpanther), Thursday, 5 August 2004 08:08 (twenty-one years ago)

What's Jade's mum got to do with Stuart's mum?

Anyway, enough of this.

― Alba (Alba), Thursday, 5 August 2004 08:11 (twenty-one years ago)

This is a bit harsh.

― Alba (Alba), Thursday, 5 August 2004 08:11 (twenty-one years ago)

His poor little face!!! When Davina said "and there's a woman you've been wanting to see" and out comes Michelle... let the poor lad see his MAM!

― Sarah has developed a large fondness for Stu it seems, Thursday, 5 August 2004 08:12 (twenty-one years ago)

You pervs fancying mums, I just thought u might have a soft spot for Jade's mum too!

x-post

Very harsh indeed. This has definitely been the best BB!

― PinXor (Pinkpanther), Thursday, 5 August 2004 08:12 (twenty-one years ago)

I am probably not much further in age from Stu's mum than from him. How is fancying a woman in her early 40s perverted?

― Alba (Alba), Thursday, 5 August 2004 08:14 (twenty-one years ago)

Best bit of that article: Michelle's 'fat little hands'.

― Ricardo (RickyT), Thursday, 5 August 2004 08:14 (twenty-one years ago)

It's not perverted at all.

― Ricardo (RickyT), Thursday, 5 August 2004 08:16 (twenty-one years ago)

Ahahahahahhahahahahahahahahhahahahahahhaaaaa.

Possibly I find that a little too funny.

― Sarah approves ov Team Handsome, Thursday, 5 August 2004 08:16 (twenty-one years ago)

REFERRING TO THE FAT LITTLE HANDS!! FAT HANDS!!!

― Sarah is too fat handed to bother abt xposts, Thursday, 5 August 2004 08:17 (twenty-one years ago)

Fat handed (clawed?) chicken.

― Liz :x (Liz :x), Thursday, 5 August 2004 08:18 (twenty-one years ago)

I enjoyed stu's stage antics, but not as much as when marco ran over to his mum, slipped & totally took her out!!! Not that was classic.

i will *kiss* whoever can supply a link to an online clip of this.

― stevie (stevie), Thursday, 5 August 2004 08:19 (twenty-one years ago)

Kevin O'Sullivan is the pits.

― Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Thursday, 5 August 2004 08:19 (twenty-one years ago)

I would like to thank Ricardo, arbiter of perversion, for his help in this matter.

― Alba (Alba), Thursday, 5 August 2004 08:24 (twenty-one years ago)

Haha, guilty conscience dude? I was only messing!

― PinXor (Pinkpanther), Thursday, 5 August 2004 08:28 (twenty-one years ago)

Yes, guilty conscience. I am planning to rip apart the Wilson home.

― Alba (Alba), Thursday, 5 August 2004 08:32 (twenty-one years ago)

What is it that 'fat little hands' makes me think of? It is indeed a terrifically powerful phrase.

― Alba (Alba), Thursday, 5 August 2004 08:35 (twenty-one years ago)

toadstools?

― Ste (Fuzzy), Thursday, 5 August 2004 08:36 (twenty-one years ago)

I'm not a big fan of Michelle, but Geordie scrubber is a bit much.

― Anna (Anna), Thursday, 5 August 2004 08:39 (twenty-one years ago)

Yeah. I wish there was a word meaning woman with scarily tight scraped back hair.

― Ricardo (RickyT), Thursday, 5 August 2004 09:07 (twenty-one years ago)

Chatham Girls

― Liz :x (Liz :x), Thursday, 5 August 2004 09:09 (twenty-one years ago)

That article seems very confused about the whole ch*v business.

― Ricardo (RickyT), Thursday, 5 August 2004 09:11 (twenty-one years ago)

Well, it's the original sense innit; the article's from 2002, supporting my claims for 'chav' being a proper Kentish word.

― Liz :x (Liz :x), Thursday, 5 August 2004 09:12 (twenty-one years ago)

That'll teach me not to ignore the date on an article. I'd assumed it was from last weeks Obs, which made much of its content a little peculiar.

― Ricardo (RickyT), Thursday, 5 August 2004 09:15 (twenty-one years ago)

OMG I just noticed that the article mentions the Casino Cabaret Rooms. Please tell me there's someone else on here who's experienced the horror of Medway? I need to share my lingering teenage pain.

― Liz :x (Liz :x), Thursday, 5 August 2004 09:19 (twenty-one years ago)

that mirror article is mind boggling.

― jed (jed_e_3), Thursday, 5 August 2004 09:23 (twenty-one years ago)

I spent NYE 2000-01 stuck at a house party in Medway with no way of getting out. It was so unbearable that I actually went out of my way to drinks so much that I passed out, just to put me out of my misery. It worked.

― Matt DC (Matt DC), Thursday, 5 August 2004 09:39 (twenty-one years ago)

Try 7 years.

― Liz :x (Liz :x), Thursday, 5 August 2004 09:40 (twenty-one years ago)

Apparently the Daily Record have finally got behind Jason, with a front page about how his real mum has come forward and would like to be reunited. Apparently the whole story is that she was a gym-slip mum, and had Jason taken away from her by the social services when he was 2, in a stand-up fight. They kept in touch till he was 4, then lost contact. Jason apparently said to Victor quite early in the show that his real motivation for being on it was that his real mum might see him and try and get in touch, as he had had no success in finding her. Allegedly this was the only time the subject was mentioned in the house.

I think this is a charming story, if true, and it's admirable on Jason's part that he hasn't tried to exploit it for the sympathy angle. OK, you could view it coming out at all cynically, but can it really make a difference this late in the day?

― aldo_cowpat (aldo_cowpat), Thursday, 5 August 2004 10:02 (twenty-one years ago)

JASON MUST WIN!!!

― Alba (Alba), Thursday, 5 August 2004 10:04 (twenty-one years ago)

He had a conversation with Dan about this, very early on.

― Anna (Anna), Thursday, 5 August 2004 10:05 (twenty-one years ago)

rings a distant bell and ties in with suzy's 'damaged' theme. but he is and will remain a twat.

― ENRQ (Enrique), Thursday, 5 August 2004 10:08 (twenty-one years ago)

so have the remaining 4 worked out yet that they're still in the game?

For once, when the C4 live feed came on at 1am ish last night the HMs were all still up. There was some open and frank sex talk from Shell and Dan bubbling along nicely, some of which survived with sound intact*, until BB broke it up by calling Dan to the diary room.

(*what criteria do they use anyway in deciding what to block out? I have yet to spot a logical pattern here.)

― zebedee (zebedee), Thursday, 5 August 2004 10:39 (twenty-one years ago)

At night things are mainly blocked out because they refer to people on the outside, leaving Endemol open to libel suits etc.

― Alba (Alba), Thursday, 5 August 2004 10:44 (twenty-one years ago)

best davina ever.

― cºzen (Cozen), Thursday, 5 August 2004 14:06 (twenty-one years ago)

dermot just said, 'o, m, g, what a show we have tonight &c.'

― cºzen (Cozen), Thursday, 5 August 2004 15:56 (twenty-one years ago)

Dermot : "ok stu this is the moment when we were going to talk to you and michelle together but because you have sold your story to the daily star and OK Magazine we are not allowed to show you both in the same shot"

*sigh*

― jed (jed_e_3), Thursday, 5 August 2004 16:09 (twenty-one years ago)

Yeah, I don't get that. Surely their contractual obligations to C4/Endemol must take precedence over any other contracts they sign? And if they don't now, they will next year.

― accentmonkey (accentmonkey), Thursday, 5 August 2004 16:11 (twenty-one years ago)

endemol probly couldn't tie them in like tht due to some weird law on restrictive covenants.

― cºzen (Cozen), Thursday, 5 August 2004 16:14 (twenty-one years ago)

maybe.

― cºzen (Cozen), Thursday, 5 August 2004 16:14 (twenty-one years ago)

Maybe their contractual obligations don't say much beyond the eviction - or they say nothing about appearing together out of the house.

― Martin Skidmore (Martin Skidmore), Thursday, 5 August 2004 16:17 (twenty-one years ago)

I know there are certain things that they have to do, like appear on BBLB, and do that other Channel 4 thing. But obviously this was never covered.

I almost wish Stu had been evicted last week, so we could have had a whole week of him on BBLB. Much better value than his wooden missus.

― accentmonkey (accentmonkey), Thursday, 5 August 2004 16:19 (twenty-one years ago)

So, how long does it take everyone else to readjust to the real world once BB is over for the year? I find that two weeks on it's like it never happened, and I don't even think about it until I start to see the ads for it the following year.

― accentmonkey (accentmonkey), Thursday, 5 August 2004 16:22 (twenty-one years ago)

> so we could have had a whole week of him on BBLB

especially odd this year as there's no RISE for them to be on. the winner always seems to get short shrift with this - didn't see cameron on anything for about a month after winning last year.

― koogs (koogs), Thursday, 5 August 2004 16:29 (twenty-one years ago)

The Jason's Mum story was out on Day 2 - I remember seeing it on the stand in Asda (and not buying it). How come the DR has only just picked it up again?

― Madchen (Madchen), Thursday, 5 August 2004 19:51 (twenty-one years ago)

you didn't buy the story? or, you didn't buy the paper?

― cºzen (Cozen), Thursday, 5 August 2004 20:02 (twenty-one years ago)

The paper.

I've just realised that the really cutesad thing about Stuart being evicted last night was the way he let go of the balloons one by one when they told him.

― Madchen (Madchen), Thursday, 5 August 2004 20:07 (twenty-one years ago)

I am not impressed with Shell putting cotton buds up her nose.

― Alba (Alba), Thursday, 5 August 2004 20:08 (twenty-one years ago)

Holy fucking shitty death holy fuck.

Emma has attacked Victor again...

http://news.scotsman.com/latest.cfm?id=3300165

http://breakingnews.iol.ie/entertai...394&p=yy3zx7yxx

http://www.ananova.com/news/story/sm_1046845.html

http://www.sky.com/skynews/article/...3181181,00.html

Let's not forget, Emma's mother has already been banned from the final show for threatening to do Victor if she saw him.

― aldo_cowpat (aldo_cowpat), Thursday, 5 August 2004 20:11 (twenty-one years ago)

Holy fucking shitty death holy fuck.

Emma has attacked Victor again...

http://news.scotsman.com/latest.cfm?id=3300165

http://breakingnews.iol.ie/entertainment/story.asp?j=113206394&p=yy3zx7yxx

http://www.ananova.com/news/story/sm_1046845.html

http://www.sky.com/skynews/article/0,,30000-13181181,00.html

Let's not forget, Emma's mother has already been banned from the final show for threatening to do Victor if she saw him.

― aldo_cowpat (aldo_cowpat), Thursday, 5 August 2004 20:13 (twenty-one years ago)

Holy fucking shitty death holy fuck.

Emma has attacked Victor again...

http://news.scotsman.com/latest.cfm?id=3300165

http://breakingnews.iol.ie/entertainment/story.asp?j=113206394&p=yy3zx7yxx

http://www.sky.com/skynews/article/0,,30000-13181181,00.html

Let's not forget, Emma's mother has already been banned from the final show for threatening to do Victor if she saw him.

― aldo_cowpat (aldo_cowpat), Thursday, 5 August 2004 20:14 (twenty-one years ago)

Sorry about the three times post, it was giving errors every time so I assumed it needed fixing before it posted...

― aldo_cowpat (aldo_cowpat), Thursday, 5 August 2004 20:15 (twenty-one years ago)

Once again, this is the best sentence:

Viewers were so disturbed by the scenes that they called police.

― Alba (Alba), Thursday, 5 August 2004 20:18 (twenty-one years ago)

Dave Berry in "not proficient enough at his job to stop guests beating several shades of shit out of each other".

― Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Thursday, 5 August 2004 20:30 (twenty-one years ago)

To be honest, the reason that I've switched votes to Jason is that his dead man walking act is pretty great. His reaction to finding out Stuart was evicted was about fifteen emotions at once.

― Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Thursday, 5 August 2004 20:32 (twenty-one years ago)

I've started to like Jason. Help me.

― Alba (Alba), Thursday, 5 August 2004 20:42 (twenty-one years ago)

you're way past help.

― jed (jed_e_3), Thursday, 5 August 2004 20:47 (twenty-one years ago)

Nadia's "I don't know where it's coming from - it's just a dream come true for me" crying was very touching too. I love them all.

― Alba (Alba), Thursday, 5 August 2004 20:49 (twenty-one years ago)

Jason seemed genuinely pleased when he thought Stuart had won, but then that was eclipsed by his scene in the diary room. Maybe my favourite moment of the series.

Perhaps unsurprisingly, given the editing he's received thus far, C4 elected not to show him comforting Nadia while she was crying - according to people who were watching the live feed it was him that made the difference and not Shell or Dan.

I have voted for him twice now. I never thought I'd like anyone in the BB house come the final night to ever vote for them once, never mind twice.

― aldo_cowpat (aldo_cowpat), Thursday, 5 August 2004 20:51 (twenty-one years ago)

Who's up for a post tomorrow night's finale "Top 100 moments of BB5

― Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Thursday, 5 August 2004 20:51 (twenty-one years ago)

"he's won it."

― cºzen (Cozen), Thursday, 5 August 2004 20:57 (twenty-one years ago)

wonit wonit wonit wonit wonit wonit

they all looked like such utter idiots there. "he's won it and he deserves it!!!". and I like Shell!

― Ronan (Ronan), Thursday, 5 August 2004 20:58 (twenty-one years ago)

Yes, it was very uncool Shell. But that was kind of sweet in itself. Even though the "and he deserves it" sounded phoney I don't think it was. She's too good for this world.

― Alba (Alba), Thursday, 5 August 2004 21:01 (twenty-one years ago)

I don't think it was that it was phoney, just not really feasible. He "deserves it"?? Like what he's put in a hard graft for the team or something!

― Ronan (Ronan), Thursday, 5 August 2004 21:06 (twenty-one years ago)

I think she just meant she liked him.

― Alba (Alba), Thursday, 5 August 2004 21:14 (twenty-one years ago)

I suppose so.

― Ronan (Ronan), Thursday, 5 August 2004 21:18 (twenty-one years ago)

Ultimately, the concept of deserts is a thorny one.

― Alba (Alba), Thursday, 5 August 2004 21:19 (twenty-one years ago)

on BB especially.

― Ronan (Ronan), Thursday, 5 August 2004 21:23 (twenty-one years ago)

Yes, ending on a Wednesday night would be the normal procdeure. You dullards.

― Ally C (Ally C), Thursday, 5 August 2004 21:40 (twenty-one years ago)

Maybe the thought terrorists had attacked and the authorities needed to get BB5 out of the way as soon as possible.

― Alba (Alba), Thursday, 5 August 2004 21:43 (twenty-one years ago)

wouldn't it be great if the terrorists took over and didn't tell the house and just kept them in, to starve and to laugh at?

maybe they could keep it going, even. I wonder what kind of tasks they would come up with. terrible big brother.

― RJG (RJG), Thursday, 5 August 2004 21:51 (twenty-one years ago)

Watching Jason last night, when he was in the diary room and he was told that Stuart had been evicted you could see him thinking that he could win it, so he did his sincere little speech, you just knew he was thinking "this has got to be worth a few more voted" Then when he got out and later on Nadia started crying, he kind of looked really pissed off, like "fuck how can I compete with that, people always vote for people who cry"

― Hmmmmm, Friday, 6 August 2004 06:58 (twenty-one years ago)

i bet stuart's regretting drinking those fish guts - was effectively a £4000 handout for one of the reamining 4.

― koogs (koogs), Friday, 6 August 2004 07:25 (twenty-one years ago)

Okay, I'm bored of Dan. He is a bit of a tit, really.

― ENRG, Friday, 6 August 2004 08:18 (twenty-one years ago)

his Mum was on Radio 5 this morning, she's a real sweetie

― Porkpie (porkpie), Friday, 6 August 2004 08:46 (twenty-one years ago)

I think Dan is the only one of the final four who actually expects to win. So it could be quite amusing when he doesn't.

Does anyone seriously believe anyone other than Nadia is going to win by now?

― Matt DC (Matt DC), Friday, 6 August 2004 08:47 (twenty-one years ago)

I fucking hope someone other than her wins.

― Ronan (Ronan), Friday, 6 August 2004 08:49 (twenty-one years ago)

She's supposed to be miles and miles ahead now. Jason is gaining on Dan for second place though.

― Alba (Alba), Friday, 6 August 2004 08:53 (twenty-one years ago)

Who on earth is voting for Jason though?

― PinXor (Pinkpanther), Friday, 6 August 2004 08:55 (twenty-one years ago)

i like to think that the late surge pro-Jason is actually a Nadia protest vote. if only they'd poured into Dan. first past the post and all that.

― Jaunty Alan (Alan), Friday, 6 August 2004 08:56 (twenty-one years ago)

There is a mad pro-Jason (and anti-Shell) lobby on the digital spy boards.

― Alba (Alba), Friday, 6 August 2004 09:21 (twenty-one years ago)

Now I think about it, the more I'm convinced that it is Nadia who's going to do a Jade and never ever go away, mostly because its her 'story' that has the most potential outside the house. The 'find Nadia a man' thing has years of OK! cover stories in it.

― Matt DC (Matt DC), Friday, 6 August 2004 09:23 (twenty-one years ago)

Has Jade not gone away?

― Alba (Alba), Friday, 6 August 2004 09:35 (twenty-one years ago)

Okay, we have the gossip from our Hull correspondent. Dan is really 35. He's been the hairdresser for all her friends that stayed since they were in the sixth form, and she's almost 31, and boringly seems to be idolised in the town.

I missed what Shell said about her dad while sitting on the lawn with Jason. Has she got a bad dad?

― suzy (suzy), Friday, 6 August 2004 09:44 (twenty-one years ago)

Who on earth is voting for Jason though?

The same strange people that have been nominating all the other housemates to be evicted, I ask this question everyday.

I'm fed up of Dan as well, hope he doesn't win. Want Shell to win coz she's wuvwy.

― Ste (Fuzzy), Friday, 6 August 2004 09:45 (twenty-one years ago)

As a Jason voter, yes, it is effectively a protest vote. Also, Jason has the same benefit Nadia has, that his posse has all been evicted (ie, if you're favourite housemate was Emma or Marco, you're voting for Nadia, if it was Ahmed or Slick, you vote for Jason).

― Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Friday, 6 August 2004 09:59 (twenty-one years ago)

i think shell's dad is 'estranged' rather than 'bad', suzy.

― koogs (koogs), Friday, 6 August 2004 10:03 (twenty-one years ago)

Dan is very much the small town duder, which is a slightly pathetic spectacle.

― ENRG, Friday, 6 August 2004 10:05 (twenty-one years ago)

I'm very much in favour of small town duders.

― Alba (Alba), Friday, 6 August 2004 10:06 (twenty-one years ago)

Duder devolution now!

― Alba (Alba), Friday, 6 August 2004 10:07 (twenty-one years ago)

last week a hairdresser told me a very long and involved story about her former boss, who was also the uber-small town duder. his shop is round the corner here. he has a big harley outside. shirt open to his naval. long hair. dan's 'cutting' (DO YOU SEE) comments have started to grate.

― ENRG, Friday, 6 August 2004 10:13 (twenty-one years ago)

"It's terrible being the only gay in Hull"

― Alba (Alba), Friday, 6 August 2004 10:15 (twenty-one years ago)

Hahahahahahahahaha!

― PinXor (Pinkpanther), Friday, 6 August 2004 10:20 (twenty-one years ago)

Nad iz SOOOOOO ennoying. Jay 2 win

― Dadaismus (Dada), Friday, 6 August 2004 10:28 (twenty-one years ago)

shell your the best

― RJG (RJG), Friday, 6 August 2004 10:30 (twenty-one years ago)

WE LOVE U SHELL! POSH BIRDS 4EVER!!!

― Alba (Alba), Friday, 6 August 2004 10:30 (twenty-one years ago)

get j out he is boring nads 2 win dom northampton xxx

― Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Friday, 6 August 2004 10:31 (twenty-one years ago)

Yes, ending on a Wednesday night would be the normal procdeure. You dullards.
-- Ally C (allycook9...), August 5th, 2004. (later)

Well the remianing contestants were baffled by the cheers for stuart, that's why they thought he'd won the thing. And also (as jason explined) he couldn't quite believe he would end up being ahead of stuart; still pretty strange that they didn't think of the early eviction.

― Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Friday, 6 August 2004 10:32 (twenty-one years ago)

julio your stupid

― RJG (RJG), Friday, 6 August 2004 10:35 (twenty-one years ago)

are u a noize dude too? I have not kept up with the boards lately.

― Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Friday, 6 August 2004 10:40 (twenty-one years ago)

dan should of walked - nadia 2 win U GO GIRL!

― Jaunty Alan (Alan), Friday, 6 August 2004 10:41 (twenty-one years ago)

how did they all twig that Stu HADN'T won? assuming they have by now!

― the neurotic awakening of s (blueski), Friday, 6 August 2004 10:43 (twenty-one years ago)

HANDS OF STU MICHELE UR A BUNNY BOILER NADS TO WIN XXXX

― ENRG, Friday, 6 August 2004 10:44 (twenty-one years ago)

I'm assuming they know that even Evil Big Brother wouldn't keep them the house for days after the game was over.

― Matt DC (Matt DC), Friday, 6 August 2004 10:45 (twenty-one years ago)

dey r all playin a game xxxx

― Ronan (Ronan), Friday, 6 August 2004 10:45 (twenty-one years ago)

The best message of the series was last night "Jay to leave soon". What with the show ending in less than 24 hours, that's probably a good guess.

― Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Friday, 6 August 2004 10:47 (twenty-one years ago)

get shell out, she boring. dan 2 win

― Dadaismus (Dada), Friday, 6 August 2004 10:49 (twenty-one years ago)

how did they all twig that Stu HADN'T won? assuming they have by now!

The diary room reopened, Jason went in to ask and BB confirmed Stu had been evicted.

― Alba (Alba), Friday, 6 August 2004 10:50 (twenty-one years ago)

Nadia or Dan to win. Pls let Jason go first!!

― PinXor (Pinkpanther), Friday, 6 August 2004 10:51 (twenty-one years ago)

With the housemates showing no sign of moving, Big Brother decided a rude awakening was in order.

"This is your final day. Get your arses out of bed!" barked the all-seeing one.

This and the "Not you, Jason" etc yesterday. Quite funny.

― Jaunty Alan (Alan), Friday, 6 August 2004 11:18 (twenty-one years ago)

From Holy Moly:

Dear Stuart,

I'm so sorry. It was never meant end this way.

You said Holy Moly too many times - and it scared them.

Thanks for the bandanas and the plugs - it was a blast.

Unfortunately, Holy Moly can't endorse your new love interest. She has dead eyes and looks as though she smells 'down there'.

However, rest assured that even though you were evicted, you were NOT last in the polls. Not by a long way.

They have some explaining to do. What scared them so? Did you look around and see the shocked look on the production staff's faces? We did. And we don't really think it was all to do with the ridiculous amount of coke knocking around either.

Ask them tonight. Ask to see the stats from the voting. You'll be surprised my friend.

― James Mitchell (James Mitchell), Friday, 6 August 2004 11:47 (twenty-one years ago)

looks like ed byrne is part of holy moly, too.

― RJG (RJG), Friday, 6 August 2004 11:52 (twenty-one years ago)

ahem, that is *not* a work safe link

as I just found out to my cost

― Porkpie (porkpie), Friday, 6 August 2004 11:52 (twenty-one years ago)

Urk. Sorry. I didn't even check it.

― James Mitchell (James Mitchell), Friday, 6 August 2004 11:57 (twenty-one years ago)

I could tell he wanted to, and could see clearly that he was affected by her crying and that he wanted to help her out. I, too, have become overly-emotionally attached to Nadia and Jason in the final forty-eight hours. It's like the other two don't even exist any more.

― accentmonkey (accentmonkey), Friday, 6 August 2004 12:11 (twenty-one years ago)

because someone laughs, all the time, doesn't make them funny.

because someone says other people are boring, all the time, doesn't make them interesting.

it seems like most voters think otherwise, though.

― RJG (RJG), Friday, 6 August 2004 12:21 (twenty-one years ago)

looks like ed byrne is part of holy moly, too.

How so?

― accentmonkey (accentmonkey), Friday, 6 August 2004 12:26 (twenty-one years ago)

oh, just someone on the hilarious calling people cunts list doing the alanis ironic thing.

maybe always identifiying it as the ed byrne thing is the new doing the ed byrne thing.

― RJG (RJG), Friday, 6 August 2004 12:30 (twenty-one years ago)

Unfortunately, Holy Moly can't endorse your new love interest. She has dead eyes and looks as though she smells 'down there'.

unfortunately, holy moly is a bunch of barleys.

― ENRG, Friday, 6 August 2004 12:30 (twenty-one years ago)

Gotcha.

I was amused to see that bit dragged out of the retirement home for one more go round earlier this year. In fairness to him, he was on the same bill as Alanis at the time, so he just couldn't resist.

I agree that the Holy Moly site isn't really anything to write home about. I assume someone's just using it as a kind of advertisment for their web design business?

― accentmonkey (accentmonkey), Friday, 6 August 2004 12:38 (twenty-one years ago)

http://forum.digitalspy.co.uk/board/showthread.php?threadid=146323

This may be the best piece of writing on BB I've seen this year, a deconstruction and analysis of Jason Cowan, probably the most complex character we've ever seen on the show, and miles away from the usual "He's vain/boring/a bully" rubbish that gets chucked out quickly. He's been backed into 4/1 in some places, but Nadia's still got it locked up.

― Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Friday, 6 August 2004 13:29 (twenty-one years ago)

oo thanks for that - blogger here i come...

― Jaunty Alan (Alan), Friday, 6 August 2004 13:34 (twenty-one years ago)

jesus that guy needs an editor

― Ronan (Ronan), Friday, 6 August 2004 13:37 (twenty-one years ago)

Nah, I'm not going to hum that tune. Jason is a twat, he hasn't done anything, and he makes weird faces while engaged in his freaky exercise regime, and he spends hours moisturising his perineum and he wore a tigerskin thong on the first night and he weirdly sexually harrassed Vanessa.

― ENRG, Friday, 6 August 2004 13:45 (twenty-one years ago)

Euw I'd forgotten about the Vanessa thing. Jason needs to leave!!

― PinXor (Pinkpanther), Friday, 6 August 2004 13:46 (twenty-one years ago)

Come on then, predictions anyone?

First out: Shell
Second out: Dan
Third out: Nadia
Winner: Jason.

But perhaps that's just a beautiful dream rather than reality...

― reclusive hero (reclusive hero), Friday, 6 August 2004 13:48 (twenty-one years ago)

Jason is not going to win, get a grip everyone!

― Alba (Alba), Friday, 6 August 2004 13:51 (twenty-one years ago)

look, here is the NEWS people

Dan: one-note humorist turned archbore since the eviction of Victor
Nadia: WHAT? NO!? I FUCKING VOTE FOR WHO I WAN'!!! SHUT UP!
Jason: there's no hint of salvation here. he is the fuckest uppest.
Shell: has a first class degree, more than adequate diplomatic skills in difficult situations, a fine conversationalist with a sunny demeanour and is pretty to boot. Why not vote for the good person?

― ENRG, Friday, 6 August 2004 13:53 (twenty-one years ago)

I want none of them to win.

― Ronan (Ronan), Friday, 6 August 2004 13:54 (twenty-one years ago)

I want Kitten to win.

― Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Friday, 6 August 2004 13:55 (twenty-one years ago)

Someone calling themselves 'burstovary' calls the author of that digital spy post 'the New Tony Parsons'.

― Alba (Alba), Friday, 6 August 2004 13:57 (twenty-one years ago)

pwn3d

― ENRQ, Friday, 6 August 2004 14:01 (twenty-one years ago)

Wow we get to see Kitten back on the telly again tonight! That hadn't occurred to me until now. Yay!

― Matt DC (Matt DC), Friday, 6 August 2004 14:01 (twenty-one years ago)

but not Emma's parents, cos they are unhinged, or something.

― Jaunty Alan (Alan), Friday, 6 August 2004 14:02 (twenty-one years ago)

A friend of a friend bumped into Kitten and Marco out on the town in London and said they were both very pleasant.

― Alba (Alba), Friday, 6 August 2004 14:03 (twenty-one years ago)

Do you do things that count, or make a difference?
Or do you just conform?

― ENRQ, Friday, 6 August 2004 14:04 (twenty-one years ago)

Did I mention the audition team that went up to interview a certain 44-year-old contestant who found him living in a bedsit furnished only by a bed, a table and a chair and A BIG BOX OF JIMMY HATZ?

― suzy (suzy), Friday, 6 August 2004 14:07 (twenty-one years ago)

Euw!!

― PinXor (Pinkpanther), Friday, 6 August 2004 14:08 (twenty-one years ago)

eh?

― ENRG, Friday, 6 August 2004 14:09 (twenty-one years ago)

So what is the procedure/rundown for tonight's shows? I'm getting me a bottle of white wine and making myself comfy in front of the box from 8:00.

― Ste (Fuzzy), Friday, 6 August 2004 14:09 (twenty-one years ago)

That's fantastic, Suzy.

― VengaDan Perry (Dan Perry), Friday, 6 August 2004 14:09 (twenty-one years ago)

What's a Jimmy Hat?

― Alba (Alba), Friday, 6 August 2004 14:18 (twenty-one years ago)

It's a CON-DOM.

― VengaDan Perry (Dan Perry), Friday, 6 August 2004 14:25 (twenty-one years ago)

Actually, as long as Jason and Nadia make the final two, a worthwhile BB moment could come tonight if these two are left in the house together and one has to congratulate the other when the winner is announced.

― James Mitchell (James Mitchell), Friday, 6 August 2004 14:30 (twenty-one years ago)

How might one furnish a room with con-doms?

― Alba (Alba), Friday, 6 August 2004 14:31 (twenty-one years ago)

Lady, if you have to ask...

― suzy (suzy), Friday, 6 August 2004 14:32 (twenty-one years ago)

So, Ahmed was poor and practiced safe sex.

― Alba (Alba), Friday, 6 August 2004 14:35 (twenty-one years ago)

The person who told me this said it had nothing to do with income - it was just molto creepy serial-killer minimalism.

― suzy (suzy), Friday, 6 August 2004 14:37 (twenty-one years ago)

My flat is minimal! I have some condoms somewhere!

― Alba (Alba), Friday, 6 August 2004 14:39 (twenty-one years ago)

Aarrgghhhh!!!

― PinXor (Pinkpanther), Friday, 6 August 2004 14:42 (twenty-one years ago)

I'm imagining the box of condoms standing in as an ottoman.

― VengaDan Perry (Dan Perry), Friday, 6 August 2004 14:45 (twenty-one years ago)

Alba, you're just going to have to do SOMETHING with that 'bare bulb' of yours.

― suzy (suzy), Friday, 6 August 2004 14:47 (twenty-one years ago)

*cue porn music*

― VengaDan Perry (Dan Perry), Friday, 6 August 2004 14:48 (twenty-one years ago)

Oh dear God. The pictures in my head now...

I love Dan dearly. He was voted by our Glastonbury campsite as the Big Brother contestant most likely to post to ILX.

― Anna (Anna), Friday, 6 August 2004 14:58 (twenty-one years ago)

i think Dan is closer to Barry than Marco ever was

― the neurotic awakening of s (blueski), Friday, 6 August 2004 15:01 (twenty-one years ago)

One of my predictions for 2005 is that an ex-BB contestant will post to ILE. I'm afraid it might be Jon Tickle though (the others will be put off by the registration process).

― Alba (Alba), Friday, 6 August 2004 15:03 (twenty-one years ago)

Dan is nothing like Barry!

― Alba (Alba), Friday, 6 August 2004 15:04 (twenty-one years ago)

IT'LL BE TOM THE IRISH FARMER'S BOY FROM SERIES ONE. OR MAYBE AMMA.

― Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Friday, 6 August 2004 15:04 (twenty-one years ago)

If both Jon and Dan showed up, that would be great.

Remember Sunita, the BB contestant who lasted 3 seconds in the house?

― VengaDan Perry (Dan Perry), Friday, 6 August 2004 15:05 (twenty-one years ago)

Dan has cashed his cheque. He's defo the most conceited member in the house; and he thinks he's above the others. In itself I didn't mind the 'I'll walk' silliness, but it's part of a bigger pattern of twattery.

― ENRG, Friday, 6 August 2004 15:05 (twenty-one years ago)

TS: Empty "I'll walk if I win" threats vs a leopard-print thong.

― VengaDan Perry (Dan Perry), Friday, 6 August 2004 15:06 (twenty-one years ago)

Hmmm.. I read that as Empty "I'll wank if I win" threats and was temporarily intrigued.

― Alba (Alba), Friday, 6 August 2004 15:09 (twenty-one years ago)

Yeah, I prefer Dan to Jason, same way I prefer Stalin to Hitler. Go Shell!

― ENRG, Friday, 6 August 2004 15:11 (twenty-one years ago)

Shell should do her post-game interview naked.

― VengaDan Perry (Dan Perry), Friday, 6 August 2004 15:12 (twenty-one years ago)

Surely the nadir of this year's BB (and the reason that Jason should win because he was the only one not involved with it still left), was "If you vote for us to stay in, we'll go naked in the diary room!!" crap. Yeah, because Shell and Nadia naked was such a rare sight in the house. As Slick wisely noted "Shell's got her lills out again, that's standard procedure".

― Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Friday, 6 August 2004 15:12 (twenty-one years ago)

I thought he said that about Michelle, not Shell.

― Alba (Alba), Friday, 6 August 2004 15:14 (twenty-one years ago)

But that's the point, Dom! Naked is Shell's default setting.

― VengaDan Perry (Dan Perry), Friday, 6 August 2004 15:15 (twenty-one years ago)

Shell is not naked that much. Only for the mud wrestling and the post-exam success streak, as far as I can recall. Apart from in the shower, but I think that's fair enough.

― Alba (Alba), Friday, 6 August 2004 15:16 (twenty-one years ago)

er, Dom, so that, rather than Jason's psycho-hounding of Vanessa, or Slick's bullying of Shell (or really lots of other things which were lame) was the nadir???

Sometimes the BB commentary will tell you 'Shell is using the shower,' without a single mite of justification.

― ENRG, Friday, 6 August 2004 15:17 (twenty-one years ago)

shell's actions in africa are well documented and appalling.

― Ronan (Ronan), Friday, 6 August 2004 15:17 (twenty-one years ago)

*When* exactly did Victor bully Shell? Are you talking about the time when she spied on one of his conversations, and rather discussing it with him at the time, waited until he was in the middle of a task in front of the entire household to raise the point with him, before breaking down into tears because he actually answered here question (before bringing up her "struggle", of course)?

― Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Friday, 6 August 2004 15:20 (twenty-one years ago)

Shell eats babies! NAKED!

― VengaDan Perry (Dan Perry), Friday, 6 August 2004 15:20 (twenty-one years ago)

What makes you think she spied rather than believing what she said, that she just overheard from where she was anyway?

― Alba (Alba), Friday, 6 August 2004 15:21 (twenty-one years ago)

And yeah, so it's so easy to reveal oneself and tell people when you've heard them say shit things. Get a grip, man!

― Alba (Alba), Friday, 6 August 2004 15:22 (twenty-one years ago)

i tried to write down every single BB contestant from memory evah the other night. Anyone bored enough to do this now? IN ORDER OF EXIT?

― the neurotic awakening of s (blueski), Friday, 6 August 2004 15:22 (twenty-one years ago)

In order of exit, no way.

Sada
Andrew?
Nichola? I don't fucking know.

― Alba (Alba), Friday, 6 August 2004 15:23 (twenty-one years ago)

haha, i'd forgotten Sada - I kept thinking Caggy was the first person out in BB1 but knew this was somehow not right

― the neurotic awakening of s (blueski), Friday, 6 August 2004 15:25 (twenty-one years ago)

Caggy is the only one I've ever seen in the flesh

― the neurotic awakening of s (blueski), Friday, 6 August 2004 15:25 (twenty-one years ago)

Ew.

― Alba (Alba), Friday, 6 August 2004 15:26 (twenty-one years ago)

Why would you assume that?

― the neurotic awakening of s (blueski), Friday, 6 August 2004 15:27 (twenty-one years ago)

Assume what?

― Alba (Alba), Friday, 6 August 2004 15:28 (twenty-one years ago)

Do you mean Barry = me or Barry = the concept of Barry, the inner Barryness, PanBarrysm, Barry's Krsna if you will.

― Markelby (Mark C), Friday, 6 August 2004 15:29 (twenty-one years ago)

i just meant cos he's bald and bit camp innit

― the neurotic awakening of s (blueski), Friday, 6 August 2004 15:30 (twenty-one years ago)

The Barry Hypothesis

― jel -- (jel), Friday, 6 August 2004 15:31 (twenty-one years ago)

i've totally forgotten the name of the woman who came third or fourth in series 2 - a little help?

― the neurotic awakening of s (blueski), Friday, 6 August 2004 15:31 (twenty-one years ago)

QuaterBarry: The Experiment

― Markelby (Mark C), Friday, 6 August 2004 15:32 (twenty-one years ago)

What was she like? Helen was second in series 2.

― Alba (Alba), Friday, 6 August 2004 15:32 (twenty-one years ago)

It was Vera wasn't it?

― jel -- (jel), Friday, 6 August 2004 15:33 (twenty-one years ago)

there was never a Vera? you're thinking of Big Corrie

she was posh, brunette, boring

― the neurotic awakening of s (blueski), Friday, 6 August 2004 15:33 (twenty-one years ago)

Elizabeth.

― Alba (Alba), Friday, 6 August 2004 15:40 (twenty-one years ago)

yes, Liz, nice one

now help me out here:

2000
Craig
Anna
Tom
Darren
Claire
Mel
Nick
Nicole
Caroline
Sada
?
?
?

2001
Bryan
Helen
Dean
Liz
Paul
Josh
Bubble
Amma
Narinder
Stuart
Penny

2002
Kate
Johnny
Alex
Jade
Lee
Sophie
PJ
Adele
Federico
Sandy
Sissy
Alison
Sunita
Lynne
(is that everyone?)

2003
Cameron
Steph
Ray
Jon
Gos
Nush
Gaetano (sp)
Tania
Natalie
Anoushka
?
?
?
?

2004
Nadia
Jason
Dan
Shell
Stu
Michelle
Victor
Ahmed
Becky
Emma
Vanessa
Kitten
?

― the neurotic awakening of s (blueski), Friday, 6 August 2004 15:43 (twenty-one years ago)

Lisa was the one thrown in towards the end last year no?

― the neurotic awakening of s (blueski), Friday, 6 August 2004 15:44 (twenty-one years ago)

I am v.busy with work and about to leave. Full lists are available via Google!

― Alba (Alba), Friday, 6 August 2004 15:48 (twenty-one years ago)

yeah Lisa married that body building dude?

― jel -- (jel), Friday, 6 August 2004 15:48 (twenty-one years ago)

You forgot Scott out of 2003. It was Sophie who married Lee, if that's what you mean.

― ailsa (ailsa), Friday, 6 August 2004 15:53 (twenty-one years ago)

oh yeah, everybody becomes the same person in the end.

― jel -- (jel), Friday, 6 August 2004 15:54 (twenty-one years ago)

Sissy was 2003, not 2002.

― Alba (Alba), Friday, 6 August 2004 15:54 (twenty-one years ago)

Federico was 2003 as well, wasn't he?

― ailsa (ailsa), Friday, 6 August 2004 15:55 (twenty-one years ago)

Yes.

Full list of post-BB romances?

Paul and Helen (still)
Mel (left out of your 2000 list) and Alex
Lisa and Lee (didn't know this)
Thomas and Claire

― Alba (Alba), Friday, 6 August 2004 15:56 (twenty-one years ago)

bloody hell.

― cºzen (Cozen), Friday, 6 August 2004 15:59 (twenty-one years ago)

yeh ignore my extra question marks - i can't believe Federico and Sissy were only last year. So who else was there in 2002 then??

I cannot remember Scott at all, tho I do remember someone with that name being on it.

― the neurotic awakening of s (blueski), Friday, 6 August 2004 15:59 (twenty-one years ago)

Lisa and Lee (didn't know this)

Sophie not Lisa! Their romance seemed to flourish remarkably quickly - Adele seemed to have more of a spark with Lee in the house tho

― the neurotic awakening of s (blueski), Friday, 6 August 2004 16:01 (twenty-one years ago)

Scott looked like Damon off of Brookside and came third last year.

― ailsa (ailsa), Friday, 6 August 2004 16:01 (twenty-one years ago)

Who's Lisa?

― ailsa (ailsa), Friday, 6 August 2004 16:01 (twenty-one years ago)

Mel was in my 2000 list - do you mean she's going out with Alex from BB3?

― the neurotic awakening of s (blueski), Friday, 6 August 2004 16:01 (twenty-one years ago)

"squatting over a mirror, looking up my bumhole."

― cºzen (Cozen), Friday, 6 August 2004 16:02 (twenty-one years ago)

Scott kinda looked like that guy who used to present some travel show on BBC2 or something. I'm too vague, sorry.

― jel -- (jel), Friday, 6 August 2004 16:02 (twenty-one years ago)

FUCK. Dan's mum is GLAM.

― suzy (suzy), Friday, 6 August 2004 16:02 (twenty-one years ago)

i still can't picture Scott at all.

― the neurotic awakening of s (blueski), Friday, 6 August 2004 16:03 (twenty-one years ago)

that was a scott quote, btw. comment made whilst sleeping.

― cºzen (Cozen), Friday, 6 August 2004 16:03 (twenty-one years ago)

picture him squatting etc.

― cºzen (Cozen), Friday, 6 August 2004 16:04 (twenty-one years ago)

Simon O'Brien = Damon off Brookside = BBC2 dude. And looks a lot like Scott.

― ailsa (ailsa), Friday, 6 August 2004 16:04 (twenty-one years ago)

http://bigbrother.digitalspy.co.uk/images/bb4/contestants/240x250_scott.jpg

― ailsa (ailsa), Friday, 6 August 2004 16:05 (twenty-one years ago)

yeah! that's the one, thanks alisa!

― jel -- (jel), Friday, 6 August 2004 16:06 (twenty-one years ago)

He also looks a fair bit like Terry Christian.

― suzy (suzy), Friday, 6 August 2004 16:07 (twenty-one years ago)

That's not Simon O'Brien in that picture incidentally, that's Scott from BB4.

― ailsa (ailsa), Friday, 6 August 2004 16:08 (twenty-one years ago)

Also forgotten = Justine off BB4. Who's Natalie? Who's Lisa? You keep mentioning ones I've totally forgotten.

― ailsa (ailsa), Friday, 6 August 2004 16:12 (twenty-one years ago)

Yeah, Mel and Alex was a cross-series romance. Quite recent, I think.

― Alba (Alba), Friday, 6 August 2004 16:13 (twenty-one years ago)

Who the hell was Natalie?

― Alba (Alba), Friday, 6 August 2004 16:14 (twenty-one years ago)

I just said that!

― ailsa (ailsa), Friday, 6 August 2004 16:14 (twenty-one years ago)

I know!

http://www.thecustard.tv/shows/bigbrother.html suggests he has invented her.

Lisa was the mad Welsh one last year who said she could kill people with two fingers.

― Alba (Alba), Friday, 6 August 2004 16:16 (twenty-one years ago)

Maybe he meant Justine.

― Alba (Alba), Friday, 6 August 2004 16:17 (twenty-one years ago)

passantino will remember the bumhole thing.

― cºzen (Cozen), Friday, 6 August 2004 16:18 (twenty-one years ago)

Scott had written a play for Radio 4. I liked Scott.

― Alba (Alba), Friday, 6 August 2004 16:19 (twenty-one years ago)

Well done, you're all very impressive. Can we talk about BB 2004 please (or at least some decent gossip and not FUCKING LISTS)?

― Markelby (Mark C), Friday, 6 August 2004 16:25 (twenty-one years ago)

1. yes
2. okay
3. if you insist

― jel -- (jel), Friday, 6 August 2004 16:31 (twenty-one years ago)

didn't Emma and Victor have an altercation on a TV show recently?

― jel -- (jel), Friday, 6 August 2004 16:32 (twenty-one years ago)

Well done, you're all very impressive. Can we talk about BB 2004 please (or at least some decent gossip and not FUCKING LISTS)?

After what people have said upthread, every time I read that I imagine it being in Dan's voice.

― caitlin (caitlin), Friday, 6 August 2004 16:52 (twenty-one years ago)

Effective tic tacs from Barry, there.

BB5 is turning into a heartwrenching episode of Surprise Surprise, what with Jason's mum and now Nadia's dad.

“Me and my wife always wanted a daughter. We gave up trying for a girl after six children and now, after all this time, God has given me the daughter I always prayed for. If she wants boyfriends or a husband that is fine by me, as long as he makes her happy. I don’t understand why a man would want to be a woman, but I’m happy if Jorge’s happy. He was the first flower in my garden and I will love him forever — son or daughter.”

― Alba (Alba), Friday, 6 August 2004 18:01 (twenty-one years ago)

:*)

― cºzen (Cozen), Friday, 6 August 2004 18:03 (twenty-one years ago)

I want Almodovar to film her story.

― Alba (Alba), Friday, 6 August 2004 18:10 (twenty-one years ago)

yeh i dunno why i thought Natalie...

we forgot posh Tim!

― the neurotic awakening of s (blueski), Friday, 6 August 2004 18:13 (twenty-one years ago)

'I'm happy if Jorge's happy' is really evocative.

― cºzen (Cozen), Friday, 6 August 2004 18:19 (twenty-one years ago)

shell is really beautiful.

― cºzen (Cozen), Friday, 6 August 2004 18:32 (twenty-one years ago)

< /ninja of the obvious>

― cºzen (Cozen), Friday, 6 August 2004 18:33 (twenty-one years ago)

Who is voting for Jason????

― Cathy (Cathy), Friday, 6 August 2004 19:22 (twenty-one years ago)

Me. 4 times now.

― aldo_cowpat (aldo_cowpat), Friday, 6 August 2004 19:28 (twenty-one years ago)

what a fucking choice.

― RJG (RJG), Friday, 6 August 2004 19:31 (twenty-one years ago)

It was all fairly pointless after Ahmed went anyhow.

― jel -- (jel), Friday, 6 August 2004 19:46 (twenty-one years ago)

he was a horror right to the very end.

worra prick.

― jed (jed_e_3), Friday, 6 August 2004 20:33 (twenty-one years ago)

Disagree. Thought his eviction interview showed all the best sides and none of the worst.

I could hear people the natin over saying "He doesn't seem like the ogre Heat told us he was."

That said, well done Nadia, though the bookies never had it in doubt.

― aldo_cowpat (aldo_cowpat), Friday, 6 August 2004 20:36 (twenty-one years ago)

You could see it in her face that she thinks she has only won it because the public likes a freak show.

― James Mitchell (James Mitchell), Friday, 6 August 2004 20:38 (twenty-one years ago)

I voted for Nadia twice in the end, I'm happy to see her win. Jason's montage was like Two Minutes Hate for me.

― Cathy (Cathy), Friday, 6 August 2004 20:39 (twenty-one years ago)

Says it all. "Nadia's Best Bits" - Emma makes a joke at her expense, Dan makes a joke at her expense, Nadia bitches about having no fags. If they were *genuinely* the best bits, why has the public voted for her?

90% 'sympathy', 10% honest enough to admit it's a freak show. The GBP make me sick sometimes.

I see, according to the BBC, she can make a lot of money selling her story about "how she used to be a man". So much for it being a vote for 'acceptance'.

― aldo_cowpat (aldo_cowpat), Friday, 6 August 2004 21:00 (twenty-one years ago)

That's an extremely cynical viewpoint. I can't see why you don't believe some people might have actually liked her. All of them who have anything interesting about them can make money selling their stories. The winner being in an underpublicised minority gives her bigger opportunities, it's true.

There was a sympathy element to my small preference for her (a larger preference when it was the last two), in that she seemed most in need of reassurance and acceptance, and will see this as contributing to that. Plus my liberal sensitivities: it's good to see someone who has changed sex winning a popular vote, and I hope it will contribute to a bit more acceptance, though I'm not too optimistic about that.

― Martin Skidmore (Martin Skidmore), Friday, 6 August 2004 22:11 (twenty-one years ago)

I don't begrudge her winning it at all, really when it got to the final four "Anyone but Dan" would have been an acceptable outcome. I don't think that it will contribute to more "acceptance", though. For instance, zany Radio 1 DJ Chris Moyles may have been campaigning for her to win, but the previous nine weeks of his show have been full of "Nadia has a cock!" gags. Similarly, even 4Text used the nickname "Portu-geezer". I think she has been treated as a freak show, which is a shame, because there's obviously a human underneath the BB exterior there, a very... unstable human. Maybe the post BB weeks will see interviews where we get to the heart of Nadia the woman, and see what she is all about. But I get the feeling that Heat and The Sun aren't gonna spend £150,000 or whatever to discuss anything of depth, and instead we'll get discussions on heel length or whatever.

― Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Friday, 6 August 2004 22:15 (twenty-one years ago)

i liked Davina talking about her "Mediterranean temperamant" depsite the fact that portugal isn't on the meditteranean.

...actually i was fairly happy she won, in the end, and even shed a tear (though that's fairly common for me).

― jed (jed_e_3), Friday, 6 August 2004 22:25 (twenty-one years ago)

I am with others in that I don't see why Nadia has won. I am actuallly glad she won, but everyone I've met who voted for her was unable to justify it. They say she is funny, but any example given is merely 'laugh at the foreigner' comedy.

I just want an example of Nadia being genuinely funny to justify her victory (as opposed topeople laughing at her voice and misunderstanding of english)

― Kevin Gilchrist (Mr Fusion), Friday, 6 August 2004 22:49 (twenty-one years ago)

Nah, forget it - I was out and drunk, and not surprised but annoyed by the result...

― Kevin Gilchrist (Mr Fusion), Friday, 6 August 2004 23:00 (twenty-one years ago)

I still think that just her presence was funny. She was a like a cabaret singer parachuted into a student flat.

My fucking movers turned up in the middle of the evictions, instead of at 6pm when they were supposed to turn up. Instead of apologising for being three hours late, they made jokes about me watching Big Brother. I almost brained them, and they nearly managed to suck all the fun out of the evening for me. I missed Shell's and Dan's evictions and 'best bits' montages because of them. Sometimes I really hate people.

― accentmonkey (accentmonkey), Friday, 6 August 2004 23:06 (twenty-one years ago)

Contestant treated as freak show on freak show Tv prog shocker

― Dave B (daveb), Friday, 6 August 2004 23:22 (twenty-one years ago)

stop with the 1984 references or start.

― RJG (RJG), Friday, 6 August 2004 23:54 (twenty-one years ago)

I missed the whole of the last show, but everyone has avoided my point upthread that "FIND NADIA A MAN!" could well carry on way past the end of the series, into endless magazine covers etc. I bet she's going to get the creepiest fanmail as well.

Although I didn't know that two contestants from BB3 got married and NO ONE GAVE A SHIT! It's time to stop caring about this lot forever then...

Any decent last interviews? Did Kitten get on the platform? What else did I miss?

Also BEST BB EVAH! (I can't believe no one's said this yet)

― Matt DC (Matt DC), Saturday, 7 August 2004 00:49 (twenty-one years ago)

Did Kitten get on the platform?

kitten was awful. she said something like "can i have a bit of time to talk about what i've been up to since i left the house" and davina said "no" and that was pretty much the last we saw of her.

― toby (tsg20), Saturday, 7 August 2004 06:12 (twenty-one years ago)

Best banner last night in the crowd - "Go Nads".

I didn't want anyone to win. Except Victor.

You forgot Spencer on the list up there as well. (sorry Barry)

― ailsa (ailsa), Saturday, 7 August 2004 08:17 (twenty-one years ago)

Kitten was being a total l4ym0r. Victor had a face like thunder whenever the cameras went to him; he WILL NOT LET IT LIE about Shell - typical male bully, blaming someone else for his failure to win instead of looking in the fucking mirror. Not a gent in the least and his mum should give him a slap. I think Michelle's style icon is Summer from The OC and should not wear shades of melon for obvious reasons. Shell looked stunning - and stunned. So stunned she volunteered that in addition to crying as a stress release, she, not Jason, was the house's biggest wanker.

Even Ed was all "who's THAT?" when Dan got sprung because of the whole eveningwear look (then said that Dan was merely 'the least objectionable' before retreating to the safety of the Israeli psy-trance on his iPod). Actually I haven't seen that look of bemusement since I introduced him to Casey Spooner. Also apart from peculiar microphone-eating a la Ian Astbury in a seasoned media professional, he completely pwned Davina in his interview.

I thought they'd have completely changed the tone with Jason if they'd told him that his real mum had contated them - as he'd hoped. Mardy people don't win Big Brother.

Nadia proved it was possible to 'pass' on her terms and I loved the Marc Almondness of her crossing herself before going out. Go Nads indeed.

― suzy (suzy), Saturday, 7 August 2004 08:26 (twenty-one years ago)

it was nice to see Michelle with her hair down for the first time ever - a Northumberland butcher could put his fists through her earrings tho

Victor looked pissed off having to stand withing a few metres of Emma at the end, who couldn't close her mouth...at all...

i thought Davina's impression of Nadia was good. Stuart's jumping around like an five year old also.

― the neurotic awakening of someone or other (blueski), Saturday, 7 August 2004 08:43 (twenty-one years ago)

Suzy OTM about Dan and Shell. Nadia was quite wonderful in the end and i was happy for her. Stuart rawked too.

― jed (jed_e_3), Saturday, 7 August 2004 08:51 (twenty-one years ago)

Oddly, trivia fans, Stuart attended the same school as Ian Curtis. He is so Dude!/Sweet! it hurts. Was he really the mole? I thought when that fake newspaper was planted Dan would diss it in the manner of an ILXor: 'Use real national newspaper fonts next time, alright?'

I really hope that Dan doesn't do the tedious provincial thing of eschewing hundreds of offers because he wants to concentrate on 'the music'. I *like* smartarses.

My mole told me that the apex of contestant recruitment would have been to find a willing hermaphrodite.

― suzy (suzy), Saturday, 7 August 2004 09:32 (twenty-one years ago)

Someone said that they'd orignally wanted to have a hermaphrodite this year but had bottled it.

Jesus, Shell was stunning. I loved that dress so much! I wonder what Batface makes of her new look.

she volunteered that in addition to crying as a stress release, she, not Jason, was the house's biggest wanker.

Ah, so that's what she was saying. There was talking in the household and we suddenly realised we'd missed something important and probably masturbatory.

Nadia was wonderful. Sympathy vite yes, but sympathy is underrated these days.

― Alba (Alba), Saturday, 7 August 2004 11:03 (twenty-one years ago)

http://www.zen38066.zen.co.uk/ugh.jpg

― James Mitchell (James Mitchell), Saturday, 7 August 2004 11:10 (twenty-one years ago)

shell's dress ws over-long at the back. say no to tails.

― cºzen (Cozen), Saturday, 7 August 2004 11:11 (twenty-one years ago)

I like it when women have tails.

― Alba (Alba), Saturday, 7 August 2004 11:13 (twenty-one years ago)

and hooves.

― RJG (RJG), Saturday, 7 August 2004 11:21 (twenty-one years ago)

Even Michelle was crying. N, I was just reminding about the hermaphrodite, which they sought here and there like the dedicated followers of fashion they are, but came away empty-handed.

― suzy (suzy), Saturday, 7 August 2004 11:39 (twenty-one years ago)

Suzy, I wasn't reading properly.

― Alba (Alba), Saturday, 7 August 2004 11:40 (twenty-one years ago)

hermaphrodites are never empty-handed i imagine

― the neurotic awakening of s (blueski), Saturday, 7 August 2004 11:46 (twenty-one years ago)

Aw Nadia! Wish I could've seen it. Very happy for her.

Victor was banging on in the Sun today about how he should have won, was the most entertaining blah blah heard it all before... for someone who considers himself such a masterful tactician, I'm surprised that he hasn't realised that the winners generally win because the public likes them.

― The Lex (The Lex), Saturday, 7 August 2004 12:58 (twenty-one years ago)

In all fairness, Victor is being paid by The Sun to complain about the current housemates, I doubt they'd accept an article congratulating Nadia on her great performance and expressing sympathy that Emma and Marco weren't around in the final weeks as well.

― Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Saturday, 7 August 2004 13:10 (twenty-one years ago)

James, did you really have to post this image of the Gruesome Twosome? The worst BB contestants ever.

So Endemol's walking marketing tool wins the show. I do love a prefabricated put-up job, sorry, happy ending.

― Ben Mott (Ben Mott), Saturday, 7 August 2004 15:17 (twenty-one years ago)

How was it a put-up job? I don't understand - surely she's been nominated and won, and was in a public vote for the last five and won by a mile. You might disagree with or dislike the winner, but I can't see how it was settled by anything but the public's preferences.

― Martin Skidmore (Martin Skidmore), Saturday, 7 August 2004 15:53 (twenty-one years ago)

James, did you really have to post this image of the Gruesome Twosome? The worst BB contestants ever.

Emma was the best ever not the worst.

― jed (jed_e_3), Saturday, 7 August 2004 19:05 (twenty-one years ago)

I thought it was quite bleak last night. It's not going to make her automatically more self confident is it, how awful that she had to go and win a TV show to feel accepted. I couldn't help but feel she's heading towards a gigantic crash of some sort.

― Ronan (Ronan), Saturday, 7 August 2004 19:10 (twenty-one years ago)

Jed, Emma was just dreadful. So offensively stupid, like a Victoria Wood/Dinnerladies character come hideously to life.

Ronan's quite right. Nadia is heading for a fall. If she wanted to be "accepted as a woman" then going on BB wasn't a smart move. She'll always be remembered as the transexual who won BB, not the woman who won BB. It would've been better for her to have come second or third.

― Ben Mott (Ben Mott), Saturday, 7 August 2004 20:00 (twenty-one years ago)

Over 60 grands worth of cash, global recognition, nicely set up for a bit of fame for a short while. Yeah I'll bet she's just gutted.

(seconded on how on earth do you claim this was a 'put-up'?)

― Ste (Fuzzy), Saturday, 7 August 2004 22:58 (twenty-one years ago)

Endemol always have their golden child. Watching BBLB or EForum over the past month it should be quite obvious that they wanted Nadia to win. They started off by trying to push Stuart, but then they realised he was totally hopeless so switched to plan B.

― Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Sunday, 8 August 2004 08:55 (twenty-one years ago)

Jon Tickle's essay on unfair editing, subtitled 'Shut up you twats'.

― Alba (Alba), Sunday, 8 August 2004 10:12 (twenty-one years ago)

this kinda turned into the worst BB ever, eventually.

― cºzen (Cozen), Sunday, 8 August 2004 10:33 (twenty-one years ago)

Thanks for calling me a twat Alba, but I wasn't talking about editing at all. I was talking about stuff like "We all like Nadia at BBLB", and Russel "Yep, I'm going to get a job after this" Brand's "Let's have a cheer for Nadia" at the end of Eforum, and so on and so forth.

― Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Sunday, 8 August 2004 11:17 (twenty-one years ago)

who is batface?

― cºzen (Cozen), Sunday, 8 August 2004 11:19 (twenty-one years ago)

I'm guessing Marco, what with his resemblance to Batboy.

― Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Sunday, 8 August 2004 11:21 (twenty-one years ago)

dom, you are a twat.

batface is...wait...scott hutchison?

― RJG (RJG), Sunday, 8 August 2004 11:22 (twenty-one years ago)

No one watches E-forum! I'm not even sure that many people watch BB:LB.

Wouldn't it make more sense, if they were trying to get higher viewing figures, for themto stop the series winner becoming a foregone conclusion (Nadia had been the odds on favourite for weeks?) I know I lost a lost of interest when it became obvious who was going to win.

― Alba (Alba), Sunday, 8 August 2004 11:23 (twenty-one years ago)

I wasn't really calling you a twat. It's just all this 'oh it's all a stitch up I'm so media-savvy' stuff reminds me of twats.

― Alba (Alba), Sunday, 8 August 2004 11:25 (twenty-one years ago)

Well... I'm not going to be a conspiracy theorist or whatever, but for the last two years, the person who BBLB has had it's "Find (x housemate)" a partner" gimmick for has been the winner.

ATTENTION RJG

― Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Sunday, 8 August 2004 11:26 (twenty-one years ago)

This reunion BBQ is some of the most painful television ever.

― Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Sunday, 8 August 2004 11:27 (twenty-one years ago)

wtf?!

― Matt DC (Matt DC), Sunday, 8 August 2004 11:31 (twenty-one years ago)

yeah, they are eating the least popular housemate.

― jel -- (jel), Sunday, 8 August 2004 11:35 (twenty-one years ago)

prima fassy otm.

― cºzen (Cozen), Sunday, 8 August 2004 11:42 (twenty-one years ago)

Clearly everyone on this thread should make up BB6 next year. (Dan can be the 'wacky' guy.)

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Sunday, 8 August 2004 13:27 (twenty-one years ago)

Might we be confusing cause and effect here? They have far less interest in having their choice win than in maximising viewing figures, I'd have thought, and focussing more on the person most people are liking best is the way to do that. I don't know if this is the case, but I'm wondering if they might have given Nadia lots of positive coverage because she was the most popular, not to cause that.

― Martin Skidmore (Martin Skidmore), Sunday, 8 August 2004 17:44 (twenty-one years ago)

Also having a transsexual win keeps BB in the headlines after the main event = more viewing figures next time and lots of lovely money for Endemol.

― Matt DC (Matt DC), Sunday, 8 August 2004 18:40 (twenty-one years ago)

Britain is a democracy, how dare they

― Ronan (Ronan), Sunday, 8 August 2004 18:42 (twenty-one years ago)

I think most of the people who vote in BB are perfectly well aware of (the possibility of) all these 'conspiracies' which are being mooted, and nevertheless went ahead and voted for Nadia because they like her and appreciate her personality.

― The Lex (The Lex), Sunday, 8 August 2004 23:31 (twenty-one years ago)

> yeah, they are eating the least popular housemate.

ha, so that's why jason wasn't there...

― koogs (koogs), Monday, 9 August 2004 07:06 (twenty-one years ago)

The guy who presented the e-forum has a show at this year's festival. It makes big news of him presenting the Eforum.

It is yet to have a night where it has sold out. I don't expect it ever will. (reviews to follow if/when he gets one, and it is really bad).

― ___ (___), Monday, 9 August 2004 07:24 (twenty-one years ago)

Weird how Emma and Victor were able to sit practically opposite each other at the BBQ table.

I've said it before, Russell Brand was rubbish presenting EFourum but his efforts on MTV Dancefloor Chart were much better. Guy needs to perform on drugs more.

― the neurotic awakening of s (blueski), Monday, 9 August 2004 08:04 (twenty-one years ago)

They *really* had it in for Jason. But playing 'Gay Bar' over his 'magic moments' montage was pretty good. Cozen, how is this the worst BB? It's clearly the bestest wtf?

― ENRQ (Enrique), Monday, 9 August 2004 08:37 (twenty-one years ago)

I GOT SOMETHING TO PUT IN YOU!

that WAS classic.

i know what David is getting at - regardless of how a series starts off it just turns to shit by the end. it's borin innit?

― jed_ (jed), Monday, 9 August 2004 08:42 (twenty-one years ago)

having said that i assume he has just forgotten how staggeringly boring the previous 2 were.

i agree it was the best one.

― jed_ (jed), Monday, 9 August 2004 08:49 (twenty-one years ago)

The guy who presented the e-forum has a show at this year's festival. It makes big news of him presenting the Eforum

Channel 4 seem to really like him. A couple of years ago they gave him his own comedy lab show and it wasn't very good (I thought). It seemed a bit like Noel Fielding's shows, but not as good. He seems an affable enough guy, though.

― accentmonkey (accentmonkey), Monday, 9 August 2004 09:54 (twenty-one years ago)

He has a strange facial shape though. Like the guy who presented that pop show on T4, there's something about his face that makes me just think 'your face ain't right' and thus I never hear waht they're saying.

― Dave B (daveb), Monday, 9 August 2004 10:34 (twenty-one years ago)

The thing I find disturbing about Russel Brand is that he never opens his teeth, yet his lips are all over the place. He's also in this month's Elle writing about his sex addiction in a very straight fashion.

― Anna (Anna), Monday, 9 August 2004 10:51 (twenty-one years ago)

http://www.comedycv.co.uk/russellbrand/russell-brand-2004-june.jpg http://www.djmischiff.com/blog/archives/images/Portcullis.jpg

― RJG (RJG), Monday, 9 August 2004 11:36 (twenty-one years ago)

http://www.comedycv.co.uk/russellbrand/russell-brand-2004-june.jpg http://www.oneshallstand.com/1987/images/113deathshead.jpg

― RJG (RJG), Monday, 9 August 2004 11:39 (twenty-one years ago)

ah good ol Death's Head - why isn't he presenting on T4?

― the neurotic awakening of s (blueski), Monday, 9 August 2004 11:48 (twenty-one years ago)

I like Russel Brand. He has a distinctive style, and he was pretty funny most of the time. He's ok.

― Ronan (Ronan), Monday, 9 August 2004 20:18 (twenty-one years ago)

I hate him! He is even more unfunny and moose-faced than Vernon Kay.

― Cathy (Cathy), Monday, 9 August 2004 21:07 (twenty-one years ago)

he's horrific. Anna is right about the teeth, i never realised why he freaked me out so much.

― jed_ (jed), Monday, 9 August 2004 21:08 (twenty-one years ago)

Vernon Kaye isn't fit to suck the cock of Hitler's rancid corpse. The only person worse than him in the whole world is that desperate June cunt.

― Markelby (Mark C), Monday, 9 August 2004 21:10 (twenty-one years ago)

oh my god Brand is nowhere near as bad as Vernon Kaye!!!!

― Ronan (Ronan), Monday, 9 August 2004 21:10 (twenty-one years ago)

at least he actually seems like an ok sort of guy as opposed to vernon "BABE OR MINGAH????" kaye.

― Ronan (Ronan), Monday, 9 August 2004 21:10 (twenty-one years ago)

I find it hard to muster sympathy for sex addicts.

― Alba (Alba), Monday, 9 August 2004 21:15 (twenty-one years ago)

I think it goes Russel Brand > Vernon Kay > Jimmy Carr.

― Cathy (Cathy), Monday, 9 August 2004 21:18 (twenty-one years ago)

Russel Brand is like an indie Jaws.

― Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Monday, 9 August 2004 21:20 (twenty-one years ago)

Has Channel 4 actually given us _any_ non shit new TV hosts in the past few years? Apart from Kirstie Allsopp, obviously.

― Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Monday, 9 August 2004 21:21 (twenty-one years ago)

I like all these people, actually. I've got this weird thing recently where I love all youth TV presenters. I was watching Head Jam the other day and was suddenly overcome with a desire for them all to be my friends. Vernon Kaye! Richard Bacon! June Sarpong! Dermot O'Leary! Cat Deely! Come to my house and snort coke!

― Alba (Alba), Monday, 9 August 2004 21:21 (twenty-one years ago)

Is Head Jam that game show that makes no sense at all?

― Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Monday, 9 August 2004 21:24 (twenty-one years ago)

I am madly in love with Dermot O'Leary. I remember on last year's BBLB, he had a choir on the show and they were dressed in purple and gold. "I love to see people dressed in the Wexford colours", he said.

I thought it was funny, anyway. Sigh.

I also like Head Jam. Laurne Laverne rules the school at it. She is aces. Edith Bowman, who you would think would be good at it, is no good at all.

― accentmonkey (accentmonkey), Monday, 9 August 2004 21:25 (twenty-one years ago)

vernon kaye-never
richard bacon-possibly
dermot o'leary-sure
cat deely-i guess so
june sarpong-never
terry wogan-definitely
gay byrne-no
davina-certainly not

― Ronan (Ronan), Monday, 9 August 2004 21:26 (twenty-one years ago)

Vernon Kaye went to school with a friend of mine. He hated him.
Edith Bowman went to school with a colleague of mine. She hated him.
Head Jam makes complete sense to me, and yes, Lauren Laverne is on it often.

― Alba (Alba), Monday, 9 August 2004 21:26 (twenty-one years ago)

Edith Bowman is not a man, sorry.

― Alba (Alba), Monday, 9 August 2004 21:27 (twenty-one years ago)

A friend of my brother is also a friend of Dermot O'Leary and says he is a very nice chap. I wuv Dermot, and have a horribly pathetic schoolgirlie crush on him. If said friend of my brother ever invites Dermot out to the pub when I am there I would die of shame and horror and embarrassment like I imagine the 12-year-old me would have done over Morten Harket.

Why does everyone hate Jimmy Carr so much? He's better than Vernon at least. However, Simon Amstell is rocking my world right now.

― ailsa (ailsa), Monday, 9 August 2004 21:32 (twenty-one years ago)

Jimmy Carr has really bad intonation, like someone doing a "hilarious" William Shatner impression.

― Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Monday, 9 August 2004 21:34 (twenty-one years ago)

All girls fancy Dermot O'Leary. Most boys do too. It's just one of those things.

You know that Belle & Sebastian are his favourite band, ailsa? Or they were, anyway.

(several boys and girls go off him)

― Alba (Alba), Monday, 9 August 2004 21:35 (twenty-one years ago)

b-but he's not Vernon Kaye. That in itself should redeem him a little as far as T4 Sunday types go.

x-post *swoon*

― ailsa (ailsa), Monday, 9 August 2004 21:36 (twenty-one years ago)

I don't like Dermott, either, but my sister said today I'm the only girl ever that doesn't.

I like Cat Deeley, and the girl from Popworld but not Simon Amstell. I can't think who else there is.

― Cathy (Cathy), Monday, 9 August 2004 21:37 (twenty-one years ago)

I don't know Simon Amstell. Who is he?

― accentmonkey (accentmonkey), Monday, 9 August 2004 21:40 (twenty-one years ago)

Jamie Theakston?

― Alba (Alba), Monday, 9 August 2004 21:41 (twenty-one years ago)

I think that was a cross-post.

― Alba (Alba), Monday, 9 August 2004 21:41 (twenty-one years ago)

yes i HAVE just gone off dermot somewhat.

(I'd still do him, obviously).

― jed_ (jed), Monday, 9 August 2004 21:42 (twenty-one years ago)

Simon Amstell is the bloke that does Popworld.

http://nickdisk.co.uk/images/nickuk/photocards/simonamstell_1998_thumbnail.jpg

― ailsa (ailsa), Monday, 9 August 2004 21:43 (twenty-one years ago)

he looks like a kettle.

― Ronan (Ronan), Monday, 9 August 2004 21:44 (twenty-one years ago)

Oh, I forgot how much I hate Jamie Theakston, and Johnny Vaughn! I seem to have a lot of hatred reserved for TV presenters. I like most other people.

― Cathy (Cathy), Monday, 9 August 2004 21:44 (twenty-one years ago)

I have got into trouble for commenting on Johnny Vaughan here before.

― Ronan (Ronan), Monday, 9 August 2004 21:45 (twenty-one years ago)

Remember when Johnny Vaughan wasn't a total wanker? Moviewatch, now that was the show...

"Let's have some scores..... FOR JUMANJI!!"

― Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Monday, 9 August 2004 21:45 (twenty-one years ago)

I'm afraid Tim Kash is the only one who won't be invited to my coke party. I feel a bit bad, what with him being sacked from TOTP, but I don't think he'd fit in.

― Alba (Alba), Monday, 9 August 2004 21:46 (twenty-one years ago)

You could invite Fearne Cotton, but I think it's unwise to give cocaine to 12 year olds.

― Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Monday, 9 August 2004 21:46 (twenty-one years ago)

What about that girl who looks like a mouse that presents Blue Peter?

― Ronan (Ronan), Monday, 9 August 2004 21:47 (twenty-one years ago)

Why exactly is Vernon Kaye presenting everything on the telly just now? Who decided he was the face of light entertainment? He's a twat.

And don't get me started on his missus...

― ailsa (ailsa), Monday, 9 August 2004 21:47 (twenty-one years ago)

Apparently contenders from Kash's replacement include Dermot O'Leary and Fearne Cotton. I don't know who Fearne Cotton is, but I initially read it as 'Fern Britton' and was entranced by that prospect.

― Alba (Alba), Monday, 9 August 2004 21:48 (twenty-one years ago)

Can we talk about that Happy Shopper Rachel Stevens that hosts Newsround now?

― Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Monday, 9 August 2004 21:49 (twenty-one years ago)

I met Jamie Theakston once. On telly he looks quite normal and not really anything special, but in real life he is a beautiful GIANT of a person.

― accentmonkey (accentmonkey), Monday, 9 August 2004 21:50 (twenty-one years ago)

--------happy shopper-------------rachel stevens---------that is the host--------------

------------war in Iraq-------------a country---------------------------------------it is not Britain-------------

― Ronan (Ronan), Monday, 9 August 2004 21:50 (twenty-one years ago)

Alb- Fearne Cotton hosts TOTP at the moment, she's also pretty muched helmed all of the Beeb's children's TV magazine shows for the past few years, she... divides opinion. I like her, but there's quite a few who find her... to have the mental age of a seven year old. She has really bad hair.

― Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Monday, 9 August 2004 21:50 (twenty-one years ago)

Can we talk about that Happy Shopper Rachel Stevens that hosts Newsround now?

Ooh, I like her. But I do think she dresses inappropriately for children.

― Alba (Alba), Monday, 9 August 2004 21:50 (twenty-one years ago)

Dermot is now the saviour of Radio 2. Apparently. He's the young Terry Wogan, or something like that. Anyway, he's getting Saturday afternoons on Radio 2 which is like the shittest time ever as, well, it's Saturday afternoon...

― ailsa (ailsa), Monday, 9 August 2004 21:51 (twenty-one years ago)

Remember the fuss when Zoe Ball was the first person to show cleaveage on kids TV? No, me neither.

― Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Monday, 9 August 2004 21:51 (twenty-one years ago)

http://www.mayhewanimalhome.org/about/images/cotton-off.jpg

Ah - her. I like her. She's invited.

― Alba (Alba), Monday, 9 August 2004 21:52 (twenty-one years ago)

Anyway, he's getting Saturday afternoons on Radio 2 which is like the shittest time ever as, well, it's Saturday afternoon...

But I love Radio 2 on a Saturday!

Oh God, I'm becoming the Pinefox.

― accentmonkey (accentmonkey), Monday, 9 August 2004 21:53 (twenty-one years ago)

re: channel 4 quality presenters: simon & miquita?! the best duo on telly.

davina's ok. I think I'm just attracted to her though. I'm turning into a mum.

― cºzen (Cozen), Monday, 9 August 2004 21:54 (twenty-one years ago)

But I go to the football on a Saturday, or to the pub. And I want to listen to football on a Saturday afternoon. And I think Radio 2 should take what I want into consideration.

(xpost)

― ailsa (ailsa), Monday, 9 August 2004 21:55 (twenty-one years ago)

Oh Davina's still a treat.

I think Fearne Cotton could do with being Danned.

― Alba (Alba), Monday, 9 August 2004 21:55 (twenty-one years ago)

Why hasn't O'Leary been given a prime time TV show yet, anyway? Can we talk about Celebrities Under Pressure with Vernon Kaye here as well?

― Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Monday, 9 August 2004 21:55 (twenty-one years ago)

No we bloody well can't. Vernon Kaye has become ubiquitous like Linda Barker and should never be talked about anywhere ever.

― ailsa (ailsa), Monday, 9 August 2004 21:56 (twenty-one years ago)

SIMON & MIQUITA OK?

― cºzen (Cozen), Monday, 9 August 2004 21:57 (twenty-one years ago)

fearne cotton's lovely.

― cºzen (Cozen), Monday, 9 August 2004 21:58 (twenty-one years ago)

I think O'Leary's too busy eating crisps to fulfill his potential.

― Alba (Alba), Monday, 9 August 2004 21:58 (twenty-one years ago)

Once you pop, you can't stop.

― Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Monday, 9 August 2004 21:59 (twenty-one years ago)

I like him for being rude to Baddiel and Skinner on Fantasy Football League when they wouldn't accept that he wasn't supporting England on the grounds that he's not English so he doesn't have to.

But I would.

― ailsa (ailsa), Monday, 9 August 2004 21:59 (twenty-one years ago)

But I go to the football on a Saturday, or to the pub. And I want to listen to football on a Saturday afternoon. And I think Radio 2 should take what I want into consideration.

Well then, you don't deserve Dermot. I'm going to bed now.

Those two statements are not connected.

― accentmonkey (accentmonkey), Monday, 9 August 2004 22:00 (twenty-one years ago)

i'm with cathy on this - i have a ton of hatred for tv presenters, even the ones you like initially you end up hating within a few months. even dermot's pushing it a bit. i'd still do him, obviously.

about 20 x posts

― jed_ (jed), Monday, 9 August 2004 22:02 (twenty-one years ago)

I realise I can listen to Dermot any other time I want via the magic of the interweb. I just felt like ranting.

I get the feeling Dermot would rather be at the football on a Saturday afternoon too, but maybe I am just projecting somewhat.

― ailsa (ailsa), Monday, 9 August 2004 22:03 (twenty-one years ago)

jed_: you like S&M though, right?

― cºzen (Cozen), Monday, 9 August 2004 22:03 (twenty-one years ago)

When Amstell reins the ego in he is very good, but he does come off as being way too pleased with himself a lot of the time. Miquita is half-decent on telly, but that magazine show she helms for Radio 1 is terrible.

No mention of Steve Jones (Welsh feller off T4) yet. I just thought I'd mention him. Seems only fair.

― William Bloody Swygart (mrswygart), Monday, 9 August 2004 22:04 (twenty-one years ago)

simon has been (rightfully) ribbing miquita fr her appearances with him on early-morning T4.

― cºzen (Cozen), Monday, 9 August 2004 22:05 (twenty-one years ago)

What about that girl who looks like a mouse that presents Blue Peter?

Ooh - I've only just seen this. I like her very much. I think she's very good. What is she called? I like at least one of them male presenters too - the one she went to Portugal with to do the Blue Peter Euro 2004 special.

― Alba (Alba), Monday, 9 August 2004 22:06 (twenty-one years ago)

Liz Barker. Fearne's nerdier mate, in a way.

― William Bloody Swygart (mrswygart), Monday, 9 August 2004 22:08 (twenty-one years ago)

Unless Ronan thinks Konnie Huq looks like a mouse.

Ronan, do you think Konnie Huq looks like a mouse?

― William Bloody Swygart (mrswygart), Monday, 9 August 2004 22:10 (twenty-one years ago)

she does.

― cºzen (Cozen), Monday, 9 August 2004 22:10 (twenty-one years ago)

Liz Barker - thanks. Simon's the male one I like. He's very handsome.

Fast facts about Liz!

Liz's fave school subjects were Art, English and P.E.

She used to collect snails when she was a child!

Liz's favourite clothes are jogging bottoms and slippers!

Her hardest challenge so far was bobsleighing.

She says her worst habit is forgetting people's names.

― Alba (Alba), Monday, 9 August 2004 22:12 (twenty-one years ago)

http://news.bbc.co.uk/olmedia/800000/images/_803230_liz_barker300.jpg

Barker

http://www.bbc.co.uk/cbbc/bluepeter/presenters/images/b_konnie.jpg

Huq

http://wuarchive.wustl.edu/~aminet/pix/fauna/mouse.jpg

A mouse

― William Bloody Swygart (mrswygart), Monday, 9 August 2004 22:14 (twenty-one years ago)

i'm never up early enough for S&M cozen. i don't like what i HAVE seen of S though.

― jed_ (jed), Monday, 9 August 2004 22:16 (twenty-one years ago)

dean friedman has a song called "S&M"

― RJG (RJG), Monday, 9 August 2004 22:18 (twenty-one years ago)

Now I don't know who looks like a mouse. That mouse is too big to make a fair comparison.

― Alba (Alba), Monday, 9 August 2004 22:20 (twenty-one years ago)

Replay from alternate angle:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/pressoffice/images/bbc/programmes_tv_idents_and_screenshots/cbbc_cbeebies_daytime/250blue_peter_45th_badge.jpg

Huq (bottom left), Barker (bottom right)

http://www.nasa.gov/images/content/54986main_mouse_med.jpg

A (different) mouse

― William Bloody Swygart (mrswygart), Monday, 9 August 2004 22:30 (twenty-one years ago)

Could you give the mouse a badge too? It's confusing otherwise.

― Alba (Alba), Monday, 9 August 2004 22:33 (twenty-one years ago)

http://www.badgeplanet.co.uk/badges_large/mouse-1.jpg

Not quite the same thing. Course, you could get someone to give the mouse a badge via Photoshop.

IF YOU COULD HANDLE LIVING WITH A LIE.

― William Bloody Swygart (mrswygart), Monday, 9 August 2004 22:36 (twenty-one years ago)

I don't like this 'Photoshop' business. What's wrong with double-sided sticky tape?

― Alba (Alba), Monday, 9 August 2004 22:38 (twenty-one years ago)

Anyway, yes, looking at it again, and imagining a badge, I can see that it is certainly Liz that looks like a mouse. But I am unable to explain why, and perhaps I am just being racist.

― Alba (Alba), Monday, 9 August 2004 22:40 (twenty-one years ago)

Tony Slattery and Mike McShane had a series on Channel 4 once called S&M. I don't think I was allowed to stay up late enough to watch it, though.

― William Bloody Swygart (mrswygart), Monday, 9 August 2004 22:48 (twenty-one years ago)

S And M
UK, C4 (Hat Trick Productions), Improvisational, Colour, 1991
Starring: Tony Slattery, Mike McShane

With the 'improv' boom in full swing, most of the leading lights from C4's ad-libbed parlour-game Whose Line Is It Anyway? graduated to their own series. John Sessions, Josie Lawrence and Paul Merton had all made the transition and now it was the turn of Tony Slattery and Mike McShane.

The teaming of the large, loud and aggressive American (McShane) with the dapper, quieter but mischievous Brit (Slattery) was an obvious move and the pair played off well against each other in a number of sketches. The subjects to kick-start their imagination were simple enough: 'at the barber's', 'in a restaurant' and so on, and one recurring theme, a leftover from Whose Line Is It Anyway?, showed the couple giving voices to two peas in a pod.

― Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Monday, 9 August 2004 22:53 (twenty-one years ago)

God, telly used to be rubbish.

― Alba (Alba), Monday, 9 August 2004 22:55 (twenty-one years ago)

Feather Your Nest

Channel: BBC1
Date: Tuesday 10 August Time: 10:00am to 11:00am

Subtitled, Widescreen

Followed by BBC News; Weather

Videoplus: 99126

Review
Antiques expert Lorne Spicer and life coach Jeremy Milnes visit Jill Fikry, who is about to leave the home and children she loves to live abroad. Can they give her the strength she needs to move on?

― William Bloody Swygart (mrswygart), Monday, 9 August 2004 22:59 (twenty-one years ago)

Have you made that up?

― Alba (Alba), Monday, 9 August 2004 23:02 (twenty-one years ago)

No.

― William Bloody Swygart (mrswygart), Monday, 9 August 2004 23:02 (twenty-one years ago)

Good heavens.

― Alba (Alba), Monday, 9 August 2004 23:03 (twenty-one years ago)

Rail Cops

Channel: BBC1
Date: Wednesday 11 August Time: 9:30pm to 10:00pm

Subtitled, Widescreen

Videoplus: 10919

Review
Fly-on-the-wall series about the British Transport Police. PC Wendy Coad arrests a woman for stealing some make up, Sgt Mark Clelland gives chase to a young man on a BMX in Cardiff and Katie Kingston and Dan Steggles deal with a passenger on the tube who is acting inappropriately.

― William Bloody Swygart (mrswygart), Monday, 9 August 2004 23:06 (twenty-one years ago)

Is Sgt Mark Clelland on a BMX?

― Alba (Alba), Monday, 9 August 2004 23:07 (twenty-one years ago)

You'll have to watch to find out...

― William Bloody Swygart (mrswygart), Monday, 9 August 2004 23:08 (twenty-one years ago)

It's strange how this thread has turned into my second favourite ever.

― Alba (Alba), Monday, 9 August 2004 23:09 (twenty-one years ago)

[insert inevitable question]

― jed_ (jed), Monday, 9 August 2004 23:24 (twenty-one years ago)

jed_, do you think Huq or Barker looks most like a mouse?

― William Bloody Swygart (mrswygart), Monday, 9 August 2004 23:29 (twenty-one years ago)

My favourite was the Mastermind one, but that's been somewhat spoiled by most of the photos no longer working, something that is partly my fault.

― Alba (Alba), Tuesday, 10 August 2004 06:17 (twenty-one years ago)

Tony Slattery and Mike McShane had a series on Channel 4 once called S&M. I don't think I was allowed to stay up late enough to watch it, though

I hear that Mike McShane's Edinburgh show is getting a lot of walkouts. A mate of mine saw it the other day and he really liked it, but he said that the shouting and the sheer obnoxiousness of it could certainly put people off. About 12 people walked out when he was there.

― accentmonkey (accentmonkey), Tuesday, 10 August 2004 06:22 (twenty-one years ago)

who are these loons who watch popworld? it's grebt, but it's on at about 7am for fuck's sake.

― ENRQ (Enrique), Tuesday, 10 August 2004 07:44 (twenty-one years ago)

Miquita Oliver is Andrea Oliver's daughter.

― suzy (suzy), Tuesday, 10 August 2004 07:48 (twenty-one years ago)

i am tempted to change the thread title...

― Jaunty Alan (Alan), Tuesday, 10 August 2004 08:13 (twenty-one years ago)

NO. This way it keeps out all the non-BB-watching idiots.

― Alba (Alba), Tuesday, 10 August 2004 08:14 (twenty-one years ago)

i have no idea who Andrea Oliver is.

he looks like a kettle.
-- Ronan (ronan.fitzgerald6NOSPA...), August 9th, 2004 11:44 PM. (Ronan) (later) (link)

both 'wtf?' and 'bwahahahaha' there

― the neurotic awakening of s (blueski), Tuesday, 10 August 2004 08:18 (twenty-one years ago)

I don't know who Andrea Oliver is either. Does she look more like a mouse or a kettle?

― Alba (Alba), Tuesday, 10 August 2004 08:22 (twenty-one years ago)

Oh yes - she used to be on GLR. Now I remember.

― Alba (Alba), Tuesday, 10 August 2004 08:23 (twenty-one years ago)

and she had something to do with rip rig? and panic? -- two bands i know nothing about who simon r and marcello have been arguing about. google is your friend.

― ENRQ (Enrique), Tuesday, 10 August 2004 08:26 (twenty-one years ago)

oh i remember the Rip Rig and Panic connection being mentioned before.

― the neurotic awakening of s (blueski), Tuesday, 10 August 2004 08:28 (twenty-one years ago)

I am surprised that MTV's Most Wanted's Dave Berry has not beamed down to terrestrial tv yet. He has Mike Skinner puppydog thing about him that makes you want to pat his head, and I am sure he would fit in very well at Alba's coke binge soirée.

― Jerry the Nipper (Jerrynipper), Tuesday, 10 August 2004 08:38 (twenty-one years ago)

i think they should bring back ugly youth TV presenters

― the neurotic awakening of s (blueski), Tuesday, 10 August 2004 08:39 (twenty-one years ago)

all this talk is covering up the fact that last night i felt INTENSE WITHDRAWAL SYMPTOMS. first time i've ever had that for any TV show as far as i can remember.

― ENRQ (Enrique), Tuesday, 10 August 2004 08:41 (twenty-one years ago)

she's the daughter of one of rip rig and panic, yes

― Porkpie (porkpie), Tuesday, 10 August 2004 08:44 (twenty-one years ago)

it's not the sort of thing you'd want people to know is it?

― the neurotic awakening of s (blueski), Tuesday, 10 August 2004 08:47 (twenty-one years ago)

"remember the worst band ever on the Young Ones? that's my Mum!"

― the neurotic awakening of s (blueski), Tuesday, 10 August 2004 08:47 (twenty-one years ago)

The talk of Newsround's-Rachel-Stevens-Lite made me dig out her biog, which contains this nugget:

Favourite band
Any pop and RnB stuff, plus the Rolling Stones are amazing live

Given that she's only in her early 20s, the Stones she must have seen could hardly have been awe-inspiring. Therefore, she loses.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/media/images/39051000/jpg/_39051877_ellie302.jpg

Although I'd still C on her Ts.

― aldo_cowpat (aldo_cowpat), Tuesday, 10 August 2004 08:48 (twenty-one years ago)

Steve M, there's nothing wrong with Rip. Rig & Panic. Are you thinking of Amazulu? I know I am.

― Alba (Alba), Tuesday, 10 August 2004 08:50 (twenty-one years ago)

Excuse me but if you have been in RR&P you could also be Neneh Cherry and you have tentacles which reach out from Ladbroke Grove and Bristol right across the fashion and music world. That whole Cameron McVey/Massive Attack/Wild Bunch grouping would make an excellent Vanity Fair connections diagram.

If you already know in your head what that diagram looks like, you know Miquita Oliver will never be short of work.

― suzy (suzy), Tuesday, 10 August 2004 08:54 (twenty-one years ago)

Liz out of Blue Peter appeared on the show wearing a t-shirt with a huge no. 69 on the front. And it was a Magnetic Fields top. She's nice.

What is Shell going to do now that BB is over? This is U+K.

― Markelby (Mark C), Tuesday, 10 August 2004 09:02 (twenty-one years ago)

She's going to parade around outside your window wearing lurid indie t-shirt designs.

― Alba (Alba), Tuesday, 10 August 2004 09:04 (twenty-one years ago)

Naked Ground Force

― Jaunty Alan (Alan), Tuesday, 10 August 2004 09:05 (twenty-one years ago)

today i will only be loooking at this thread and hitting apple-R from time to time.

and my real actual work obv

thank you

― Jaunty Alan (Alan), Tuesday, 10 August 2004 09:06 (twenty-one years ago)

She says she's going to feck off home and stay there, hiding out until everyone forgets who she is.

I reckon she'll start designing her own clothes and modelling them as well.

I really want to come to this coke soiree.

― accentmonkey (accentmonkey), Tuesday, 10 August 2004 09:08 (twenty-one years ago)

you know in cartoons or ads for tea or coffee when kettles have elongated cartoon faces and speak? THAT'S what I meant.

― Ronan (Ronan), Tuesday, 10 August 2004 09:28 (twenty-one years ago)

Do you mean like Mrs Potts from Beauty and the Beast?

― Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Tuesday, 10 August 2004 09:53 (twenty-one years ago)

now i see what you mean Ronan!

― the neurotic awakening of s (blueski), Tuesday, 10 August 2004 09:55 (twenty-one years ago)

Mrs Potts was voiced by Angela Lansbury, who really did look like a mouse.

― Jerry the Nipper (Jerrynipper), Tuesday, 10 August 2004 09:55 (twenty-one years ago)

Dom is more of a teapot. I am Lumiere.

― the neurotic awakening of s (blueski), Tuesday, 10 August 2004 09:55 (twenty-one years ago)

Dom is more of a teapot.

Are you accusing me of being short and stout?

― Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Tuesday, 10 August 2004 10:02 (twenty-one years ago)

"We'll be right back with more People Who Look Like Things..."

― the neurotic awakening of s (blueski), Tuesday, 10 August 2004 10:09 (twenty-one years ago)

Why do people think I'm indie?!?!?

― Markelby (Mark C), Tuesday, 10 August 2004 10:11 (twenty-one years ago)

Because you played a Ride record at the last Club FT!

― Ricardo (RickyT), Tuesday, 10 August 2004 10:11 (twenty-one years ago)

(boyincorduroy@yahoo.deletethisbit.com),

― Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Tuesday, 10 August 2004 10:12 (twenty-one years ago)

Oh for heavens's sake. I barely wear corduroy, and I got that email address 7 years ago!! And it was only one Ride record - I played funk and cock-rock and hip hop the rest of the time, but no-one calls me MC Bald Cunt or Baldmaster Funk, do they?

― Markelby (Mark C), Tuesday, 10 August 2004 10:14 (twenty-one years ago)

One Ride record is all it takes.

― Ricardo (RickyT), Tuesday, 10 August 2004 10:14 (twenty-one years ago)

and a recorder

― Porkpie (porkpie), Tuesday, 10 August 2004 10:16 (twenty-one years ago)

no-one calls me MC Bald Cunt or Baldmaster Funk, do they?

Is this actually true?

― Alba (Alba), Tuesday, 10 August 2004 10:17 (twenty-one years ago)

So far it's true.

― Markelby (Mark C), Tuesday, 10 August 2004 10:18 (twenty-one years ago)

MC Bazza Lazza, fo shizzle.

― suzy (suzy), Tuesday, 10 August 2004 10:20 (twenty-one years ago)

text from my sister: 'Oh yeah a j said he made up the bisexual slept with 250 women thing just to get into the house'

apparently the saga continues on T4. Nadia has not sold her story, Shell has stripped off, and Jason want smash Channel 4.

― ENRQ (Enrique), Tuesday, 10 August 2004 10:35 (twenty-one years ago)

Shell fans should be happy, as apparently she's getting £33,000 for her story, compared to just £5,000 for Daniel's.

― Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Tuesday, 10 August 2004 10:39 (twenty-one years ago)

so why do we reckon jason didn't go to the BBQ? wouldn't this have been in the contract? do the contestants get paid anything for appearing on the show, even if they don't win? x

― stevie (stevie), Tuesday, 10 August 2004 10:41 (twenty-one years ago)

he seemed well narked even on eviction night.

― ENRQ (Enrique), Tuesday, 10 August 2004 10:46 (twenty-one years ago)

The story was that he went to see his family in Scotland.

― PinXor (Pinkpanther), Tuesday, 10 August 2004 10:46 (twenty-one years ago)

he was allowed to do this?? its weird... it seems very awkward. i felt for his superfan at the bbq.

― stevie (stevie), Tuesday, 10 August 2004 10:47 (twenty-one years ago)

i think it's about 30 pounds a day appearance fee. victor and dan were talking about it one night.

― koogs (koogs), Tuesday, 10 August 2004 10:48 (twenty-one years ago)

Jason was apparently shocked to discover he was seen as the other kind of Number Two upon leaving the house, and when debriefed by shrinks found out about his mum coming forward and all the stuff written about him, and was mortified as his perception was 180 degrees away from that. Also Nadia's cousins had a right go at him for his less than gentlike comments in the house, which might have ended up in a drama where Nadia refused to attend the picnic if he did but it seems more likely he just snuck home to lick his wounds. It's sad, but he died by his own hand, as it were.

Oh and as if that's the last £5000 Dan's going to get from the media. He's probably the first contestant who'd be better at presenting than any of his interviewers - he's meant to have had TONS of offers.

I'm glad Nadia is not selling her story; I like this person who told Jason that he'd see it was never about the money because this person is a lot more astute than we thought.

― suzy (suzy), Tuesday, 10 August 2004 10:53 (twenty-one years ago)

> He's probably the first contestant who'd be better at presenting than any of his interviewers

his attempt at co-presenting his own eviction interview was cringeworthy though

― koogs (koogs), Tuesday, 10 August 2004 10:56 (twenty-one years ago)

When did the 'Nadia is a virgin' thing come out?

― Alba (Alba), Tuesday, 10 August 2004 10:57 (twenty-one years ago)

I thought it was funny. You may not agree. However my specific demographic likes his Jarvis/Marc Almond vibe.

30 quid sounds more like a per diem - the cash they'd get for coffee, fags, etc when out on C4 business. They'll have a clothes allowance or a stylist borrowing for them, and then they'll have a fee (I think there's an equity/Bectu minimum).

― suzy (suzy), Tuesday, 10 August 2004 11:00 (twenty-one years ago)

Pro-Dan press funnier than the Star re: Shell/Stu eviction...

http://www.thisishull.co.uk/displayNode.jsp?nodeId=136265&command=displayContent&sourceNode=136248&contentPK=10725247

― aldo_cowpat (aldo_cowpat), Tuesday, 10 August 2004 11:04 (twenty-one years ago)

> I thought it was funny. You may not agree.

it was more the fact that davina was expecting it to be a more traditional interview which requires different timing. Led to him and Davina trying to talk at the same time on occasions and long gaps on others, from what i remember. and his attempt at involving the crowd fell flat on its face.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/threecounties/read_this/big_brother/big_brother_2003/facts.shtml

* A subsistence payment is made to all participants as a contribution to help pay for out-of-pocket expenses (such as rent) while they are in the house. This is a flat fee and is not tied to an individual's loss of earnings, but is based on jury service payments and is around £30 per day.

(series 4 values)

― koogs (koogs), Tuesday, 10 August 2004 11:09 (twenty-one years ago)

It was quite clear that Daniel was Davina's favourite and that she had been rooting for him to win. I reckon she told him as much when she whispered to him as he stepped thry the gates.

― jed_ (jed), Tuesday, 10 August 2004 11:18 (twenty-one years ago)

That Domestos advert can be mere weeks away.

― Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Tuesday, 10 August 2004 11:24 (twenty-one years ago)

I was offered £49 a day when I did jury service in 1999.

― Markelby (Mark C), Tuesday, 10 August 2004 11:37 (twenty-one years ago)

I suppose travelling expenses are lower when one is in the BB house.

― Alba (Alba), Tuesday, 10 August 2004 11:38 (twenty-one years ago)

£30 a day for seventy days when everything is being paid for already isn't a bad deal.

― Markelby (Mark C), Tuesday, 10 August 2004 11:39 (twenty-one years ago)

Yeah, rent/mortgage and bills on wherever you already live is all there is to cover I guess, and even then you might be able to (sub)let or just move at the right time.

― Alba (Alba), Tuesday, 10 August 2004 11:43 (twenty-one years ago)

I caught the end of the last episode on Sunday - the best bit to catch. When they were showing the empty house and playing sound clips of things that happened in the parts of the house they were showing, the hairs on my neck stood on end. Could have done without hearing the Michelle/Stu heavy breathing again though.

Dan's mic technique was terrible - very poppy Bs and Ps, which he could have avoided if he'd talked across the top of it and not straight into the end of it.

― Madchen (Madchen), Tuesday, 10 August 2004 12:11 (twenty-one years ago)

yeah that empty house w. sound thing is like the end of 'before sunrise'.

― ENRQ (Enrique), Tuesday, 10 August 2004 12:19 (twenty-one years ago)

They did that last year too, didn't they? It is as eerie as they intend.

― Alba (Alba), Tuesday, 10 August 2004 12:28 (twenty-one years ago)

I think they always do it.

― Madchen (Madchen), Tuesday, 10 August 2004 12:31 (twenty-one years ago)

when BB2 ended i remember they had the camera floating off from the house into space and lots of reverb over Bryan's 'I CAN SEE DEMONS' exclaimations...

― the neurotic awakening of s (blueski), Tuesday, 10 August 2004 12:33 (twenty-one years ago)

ha, by space i mean just a few dozen feet off the ground like

― the neurotic awakening of s (blueski), Tuesday, 10 August 2004 12:34 (twenty-one years ago)

Like in 'Grease'.

― ENRQ (Enrique), Tuesday, 10 August 2004 12:35 (twenty-one years ago)

When did the 'Nadia is a virgin' thing come out?

It was on the very first BB5 show, wasn't it?

Dan is going to be on our BBC local news programme in a few minutes. I am strangely looking forward to it.

― caitlin (caitlin), Tuesday, 10 August 2004 16:31 (twenty-one years ago)

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