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some of the dialogue is straight out of the generic-rom-com-scripts dumpster, and much of the acting seems stiff as two toffs after a week on a viagra diet, but other than that, this was okay, and not half as bad as it seemed. you have to pretty much forget that half the plot is risibly implausible though.

im giving it a potential, if unlikely, C------------------------.

― dickvandyke (dickvandyke), Tuesday, 24 August 2004 21:33 (twenty-one years ago)

It looks horrible from the trailers. I shan't be watching it.

― Wooden (Wooden), Tuesday, 24 August 2004 21:35 (twenty-one years ago)

Embarrassing. No chemistry between the leads renders the whole thing unbelievable on every level. TV by numbers. Terrible. F-

― jed_ (jed), Tuesday, 24 August 2004 21:36 (twenty-one years ago)

The amount of hype this series has been getting in the press is ridiculous.

― Pashmina (Pashmina), Tuesday, 24 August 2004 21:38 (twenty-one years ago)

waste of money too, all the on-location filming must have set them back a few bob. but yeah, the lack of real chemistry makes them seem so wooden (the american girl especially), i fail to believe how the british guy ever really gets wooden for her.

― dickvandyke (dickvandyke), Tuesday, 24 August 2004 21:39 (twenty-one years ago)

There was definitely something odd about the acting and/or script - it felt like all the characters were entirely isolated from each other, in the way they spoke their lines. No chemistry *at all*.

― caitlin (caitlin), Tuesday, 24 August 2004 21:40 (twenty-one years ago)

It was cheesy, that makes it good in my book.

― jel -- (jel), Wednesday, 25 August 2004 08:55 (twenty-one years ago)

all i could glean was that none of the Merkins actually seemed to be actually Merkin - were they *all* played by Brits?

Awful awful script, rubbish acting, preposterous premise, not especially likeable characters...it's like "As If" for grown-ups and I'm hooked, like a total fucking sucking sucker.

― CharlieNo4 (Charlie), Wednesday, 25 August 2004 09:07 (twenty-one years ago)

I watched five minutes about half way through. I thought it sounded like a dim-witted Briton's idea of what Americans talk like. Also the split screen was needless and distracting. Dud.

― PJ Miller (PJ Miller), Wednesday, 25 August 2004 09:12 (twenty-one years ago)

transatlantic relationship people to thread!

― CarsmileSteve (CarsmileSteve), Wednesday, 25 August 2004 09:13 (twenty-one years ago)

Oh good.

― PJ Miller (PJ Miller), Wednesday, 25 August 2004 09:14 (twenty-one years ago)

Question 1: Is your house split-screen?

― PJ Miller (PJ Miller), Wednesday, 25 August 2004 09:15 (twenty-one years ago)

I put my notes on the LDR thread.

― jel -- (jel), Wednesday, 25 August 2004 09:19 (twenty-one years ago)

Okay! NY:Lon!

I made notes, they don't make much sense:

* Dear American girl I gave all my money to, I love you I think
* Loft apartment - Capital City - Random annoying kid
* Preganant Ex - Dead junkie
* Crappy Strokes-esque band
* Everywhere looks better at night
* Crazy British stalker guy!!
* Kurt from Teachers
* His buzz was totally harshed - followed by old cliche of "tomorrow, I might be dead"
* I didn't find the main guy so punchable after all, the main girl is still cute.
* Whisky in a paper bag, all New York apartments have those big metal fire escapes on the outside - I've seen Spiderman.
* The theme tune is total Dawson's rock.

Overall, it's fairly terrible. I LIKE IT.

-- jel -- (freeduni...) (webmail), August 25th, 2004 10:49 AM.

― jel -- (jel), Wednesday, 25 August 2004 09:20 (twenty-one years ago)

I also gave my thoughts in the LDR thread. I'm not sure they're worth pasting.

― Alba (Alba), Wednesday, 25 August 2004 09:23 (twenty-one years ago)

It was strangely refreshing to have a love story where the woman is relatively poor and worthy and the man is rich.

― Alba (Alba), Wednesday, 25 August 2004 09:26 (twenty-one years ago)

It was a good point you made about email N.

― jel -- (jel), Wednesday, 25 August 2004 09:27 (twenty-one years ago)

Suze from As:If never appeared, despite being in the adverts.

― jel -- (jel), Wednesday, 25 August 2004 09:28 (twenty-one years ago)

i noticed this news article yesterday:

'NY-LON' SOUNDTRACK
The soundtrack for the new Channel 4 drama series 'Ny-Lon' - set in London and New York - has a suitably translantic soundtrack with Brit rockers Snowpatrol and the Charlatans rubbing shoulders with hip NY punk funksters the Rapture and Radio 4. The show kicks off tomorrow night, with the soundtrack out on 13 Sep.

The track listing is:

Kid Symphony - 'She Lives In New York City'
The Charlatans - 'Up At The Lake'
Snow Patrol - 'Spitting Games'
Bell XI - 'Eve, The Apple Of My Eye'
Chungking - 'High Heels'
Tender Trap - 'Oh Katrina'
Akaizia Parker - 'Tuesday's Girl'
The Rapture - 'Open Up Your Heart'
Radio 4 - 'Eyes Wide Open'
Razorlight - 'Action'
The Eighties Matchbox B-Line Disaster - 'Chicken'
Joy Zipper - 'If I'm Right'
Kosheen - 'Wasting My Time'
Josh Rouse - 'Rise'
I Am Kloot - 'Proof'
The Sleepy Jackson - 'Mourning Rain'
Sia - 'Breathe Me'
Hal Lindes - 'Ny-Lon Theme'

― DJ Martian (djmartian), Wednesday, 25 August 2004 09:32 (twenty-one years ago)

copying "Teachers" with a branded CD

― DJ Martian (djmartian), Wednesday, 25 August 2004 09:33 (twenty-one years ago)

The bit I saw had gratuitous Thrills.

― PJ Miller (PJ Miller), Wednesday, 25 August 2004 09:35 (twenty-one years ago)

What was the instrumental music played right at the start? Was that original? I really liked it and then it got blown away by some rubbish indie (I can't remember what).

― Alba (Alba), Wednesday, 25 August 2004 09:36 (twenty-one years ago)

The soundtrack was very annoying, like Teachers. Not so much for the songs themselves, but for the way they were crammed in. Worst bit, as alluded to by PJ Miller, was when she went back to America and he was sad so it was like "Quick - stick on that song that goes 'Just don't go back to Big Sur'!"

― Alba (Alba), Wednesday, 25 August 2004 09:40 (twenty-one years ago)

The worst thing aboutt hat scene was when it went into split scene and for one delicious moment I thought he was going to have a wank. But he didn't.

― PJ Miller (PJ Miller), Wednesday, 25 August 2004 10:15 (twenty-one years ago)

YES! whoever said it was like as if but set in london and NYC is spot on! as if sucks too.

― splooge (thesplooge), Wednesday, 25 August 2004 10:16 (twenty-one years ago)

get out

― the neurotic awakening of s (blueski), Wednesday, 25 August 2004 10:30 (twenty-one years ago)

does anyone know what that song that sounded really like bowie's five years was?

― splooge (thesplooge), Wednesday, 25 August 2004 10:31 (twenty-one years ago)

the real question is: Will Green Wing be any cop?

― the neurotic awakening of s (blueski), Wednesday, 25 August 2004 10:32 (twenty-one years ago)

not if that advert with the woman cramming all the donuts in her bag is anything to go by. it looks like smack the pony.

― splooge (thesplooge), Wednesday, 25 August 2004 10:34 (twenty-one years ago)

I think it is a British attempt at Scrubs but made by the people who did Things To Do Before You're 30 or whatever it was called. Hm.

― the neurotic awakening of s (blueski), Wednesday, 25 August 2004 10:36 (twenty-one years ago)

there was a really great drama-comedy series that used to be on friday nights called the little room or something. they should bring that back. had this guy who looks a bit like richard littlejohn living with his flatmate talking to himself and going shopping and shagging students who he met at parties and things like that. was really good TV.

― splooge (thesplooge), Wednesday, 25 August 2004 10:38 (twenty-one years ago)

does anyone know what that song that sounded really like bowie's five years was?

argh this is U&K! what makes it even more annoying is that I'm pretty sure I own the song in question, I just can't source the damn thing.

In conclusion: if Richard Curtis scripted "As If" with half the cast of "Lock Stock" and a handful of Brian de Palma DVDs in his hand, "NY-LON" would be the result.

Xpost you're talking about Peepshow aren't you, splooge? That was fucking brilliant.

― CharlieNo4 (Charlie), Wednesday, 25 August 2004 10:42 (twenty-one years ago)

thats the one! peepshow was brilliant! i hope they havent got rid of that yet.

― splooge (thesplooge), Wednesday, 25 August 2004 10:46 (twenty-one years ago)

Green Wing will suck beyond all measure. It looks even less funny that American hospital comedy.

― jel -- (jel), Wednesday, 25 August 2004 11:25 (twenty-one years ago)

Green Wing could well be the worst new show on Channel 4 this year. And I'm including Flipside in that.

― Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Wednesday, 25 August 2004 11:28 (twenty-one years ago)

Channel 4 are churning these out - but how many remember the med-dramacom from earlier this year?

― the neurotic awakening of s (blueski), Wednesday, 25 August 2004 11:38 (twenty-one years ago)

No Angels?

― Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Wednesday, 25 August 2004 11:40 (twenty-one years ago)

The time is right for series 2 of Metrosexuality.

― Alba (Alba), Wednesday, 25 August 2004 11:42 (twenty-one years ago)

The time will never be right for that. NEVER!

― Ricardo (RickyT), Wednesday, 25 August 2004 11:43 (twenty-one years ago)

Surgical Spirit?

― the neurotic awakening of s (blueski), Wednesday, 25 August 2004 11:43 (twenty-one years ago)

http://www.bbc.co.uk/comedy/guide/images/640/onlywhenilaugh.jpg

― Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Wednesday, 25 August 2004 11:48 (twenty-one years ago)

they should bring back that medical carry on/naked gun spoof-like series that channel 5 broadcast on their very first day if they want do something with doctors and nurses.

― dickvandyke (dickvandyke), Wednesday, 25 August 2004 12:26 (twenty-one years ago)

Episode 2 in 5 mins!

― Alba (Alba), Tuesday, 31 August 2004 19:56 (twenty-one years ago)

is it just me or do all the american characters in this seem like really corny americans? theyre like americans who learnt to be american from TV (most probably from shows like this).

― dickvandyke (dickvandyke), Tuesday, 31 August 2004 20:14 (twenty-one years ago)

American character gets to work and immediately puts the Yeah Yeah Yeahs on: LOOK I'M TRYING TO SHOW WHAT A NEW YORKER I AM

― caitlin (caitlin), Tuesday, 31 August 2004 20:16 (twenty-one years ago)

im waiting for these oh so british flatmates to go to a pub and play oasis all night.

― dickvandyke (dickvandyke), Tuesday, 31 August 2004 20:23 (twenty-one years ago)

real new yorkers play the strokes innit

― ken c (ken c), Tuesday, 31 August 2004 21:03 (twenty-one years ago)

I do like it, and I think the two central characters are great, esp. Michael, but a major weakness (apart from the incessant rock jukebox) is that all the others, with the exception of his flatmate, seem to be complete imbeciles. I don't know if they've done this to make Michael and Edie look special, as a way of making their feelings for each other seem more understandable to the viewer. If so, that's a weakness of writing.

The Welsh girl is/was great, though.

― Alba (Alba), Tuesday, 31 August 2004 21:09 (twenty-one years ago)

i just watched it for the first time tonight, it seemed alright.. not really a classic, but not really dud. kinda sad. too.

― ken c (ken c), Tuesday, 31 August 2004 21:12 (twenty-one years ago)

i hope this 'are they/arent they' status doesnt get prolonged for much longer. a show about translatlantic couples needs to have it's main couple getting together for a little while, at least.

― dickvandyke (dickvandyke), Tuesday, 31 August 2004 21:17 (twenty-one years ago)

haha sorry, she was welsh?! I thought she was scandinavian. : /

― cºzen (Cozen), Tuesday, 31 August 2004 21:30 (twenty-one years ago)

I think she might have been half-Chinese.

― Alba (Alba), Tuesday, 31 August 2004 21:31 (twenty-one years ago)

I thought she acted really well, anyway. I hope to see her in more things.

― Alba (Alba), Tuesday, 31 August 2004 21:32 (twenty-one years ago)

she reminded me of helen big brother.

― cºzen (Cozen), Tuesday, 31 August 2004 21:34 (twenty-one years ago)

The guy playing Michael (is he well-known?) is just brilliant, though. I love the way he leaves so much unsaid, and whenever people are talking to him, you can just read so much understanding into his silences. He'd make me feel so stupid and ill at ease if I were talking to him (the character).

― Alba (Alba), Tuesday, 31 August 2004 21:37 (twenty-one years ago)

(you realise Helen Big Brother was Welsh, not Scandinavian, right?)

― Alba (Alba), Tuesday, 31 August 2004 21:37 (twenty-one years ago)

that's really insightful.

― cºzen (Cozen), Tuesday, 31 August 2004 21:38 (twenty-one years ago)

I want to leave that looking snarky.

― cºzen (Cozen), Tuesday, 31 August 2004 21:39 (twenty-one years ago)

He's a bit like Dennis from Eastenders, or how he used to be anyway. I haven't watched it in ages.

― Alba (Alba), Tuesday, 31 August 2004 21:43 (twenty-one years ago)

or ryan in 'the o.c.'.

― cºzen (Cozen), Tuesday, 31 August 2004 21:45 (twenty-one years ago)

boo. i had yesterday off and forgot that it was tuesday, and nobody i texted had a videotape to record it for me. will it repeat? or did i not miss anything that i'll be able to pick up from the previews/ads/'last week on...' when i watch next week?

thought it was pretty cheesy but entertaining. although depressing that more grand romantic gestures like that never actually happen. but it's only tv.

still, will try to watch it. how many weeks is it, anyway?

― colette (a2lette), Wednesday, 1 September 2004 08:26 (twenty-one years ago)

i missed The Sopranoes, hellannoying

― the neurotic awakening of s (blueski), Wednesday, 1 September 2004 08:29 (twenty-one years ago)

There was something other than CSI on last night?

― Super-Masonic Black Hole (kate), Wednesday, 1 September 2004 08:37 (twenty-one years ago)

I caught the last ten minutes of this last night while waiting for '6 feet under' to come on. It looked terrible.

But '6 Feet Under' had Dawn-from-Buffy playing a sub-sub-Britney!

― Jerry the Nipper (Jerrynipper), Wednesday, 1 September 2004 08:44 (twenty-one years ago)

i missed the sopranos this week, annoyingly.

― dickvandyke (dickvandyke), Wednesday, 1 September 2004 08:46 (twenty-one years ago)

I HAD A WABNK

― GARU G, Wednesday, 1 September 2004 08:50 (twenty-one years ago)

i bet it was more convincing than nylon.

― dickvandyke (dickvandyke), Wednesday, 1 September 2004 08:51 (twenty-one years ago)

well, i watched 'dodgeball' with a chattering and crying toddler in the theatre. grrrr. i love kids.

― colette (a2lette), Wednesday, 1 September 2004 08:56 (twenty-one years ago)

I really thought (hoped) the ashes were gonna fly back in their faces.

― jel -- (jel), Wednesday, 1 September 2004 15:22 (twenty-one years ago)

Sam Wollaston 'ripped off' our jokes in the Guardian TV review today.

― Alba (Alba), Wednesday, 1 September 2004 16:23 (twenty-one years ago)

Tonight's episode was a bit boring. But Nina Simone was lovely.

― Alba (Alba), Tuesday, 7 September 2004 23:45 (twenty-one years ago)

what did sam say, alba?

― jed_ (jed), Tuesday, 7 September 2004 23:51 (twenty-one years ago)

And that title's quite irritating isn't it? NY-LON. They could do a less glamorous follow-up in which Edie's moved to Denver and Michael, who's given up his city job to work on container ships, now lives in Immingham. It's called DEN-IM. Or COT-TON, the low-budget domestic version about a couple, one of whom lives in the Cotswolds, the other in Tonbrige Wells. Then there's the one about the Polynesian woman who falls for the bloke from Leicester ... no, actually, maybe there isn't.

― Alba (Alba), Wednesday, 8 September 2004 07:49 (twenty-one years ago)

someone needs to give the couple some decent lines for once, rather than the ever reliable agonising over 'oh whats happening between us' crap.

― splooge (thesplooge), Wednesday, 8 September 2004 08:33 (twenty-one years ago)

splooge - the problem is that there is just that as a story. Oh, but I live in NY. I live in London. That's difficult. But I like you. But it is difficult.

But - who cares? I have no sympathy for people getting involved in a more stupid long distance relationship than even I have ever been involved in. And I want his job in a bank, because a flat like that and the ability to fly to NY every weekend without giving a toss for cash would be fine by me.

― ___ (___), Wednesday, 8 September 2004 08:44 (twenty-one years ago)

i was wondering if the show is trying to bring back the 'trainers with short skirts' look singlehandedly. there were at least two, maybe three, girls doing this yesterday. and while i like wearing all stars with skirts, thought edie looked silly wearing clunky sketchers with her skirt.

― colette (a2lette), Wednesday, 8 September 2004 09:51 (twenty-one years ago)

one thing about this show, i sometimes have to pause for thought if im going to buy a one day travelcard. the guy in ny-lon probably doesnt even search for a good deal on a charter flight.

i thought edie's flatmate didnt need to roam around her flat with no clothes on for as long as she did last night.

― splooge (thesplooge), Wednesday, 8 September 2004 09:57 (twenty-one years ago)

im starting to look worriedly over my shoulder. and im working from home.

― splooge (thesplooge), Wednesday, 8 September 2004 09:58 (twenty-one years ago)

argh, i posted that in the wrong thread!

― splooge (thesplooge), Wednesday, 8 September 2004 09:59 (twenty-one years ago)

she was trying to have sex at the time non? maybe she thought it'd be too much effort to put clothes back on just to see who's at the door if she's gonna take it off again.

― ken c (ken c), Wednesday, 8 September 2004 10:14 (twenty-one years ago)

she should have stayed mounted on her boyfriend and lugged him to the door with her. i thought women were better at multitasking.

― splooge (thesplooge), Wednesday, 8 September 2004 10:17 (twenty-one years ago)

but they are supposed to have less strength.. it'd take too much power to lug the man all the way to the door.

― ken c (ken c), Wednesday, 8 September 2004 10:19 (twenty-one years ago)

no, she stays mounting him, grapples him with her arms wrapped around him, orders him to get up with her locked around his body... they walk to the door together, so after she looks through the keyhole and dispenses with the unwanted visitor, they can just continue doing the deed on the wall or the floor or return to the bed or whatever.

― splooge (thesplooge), Wednesday, 8 September 2004 10:21 (twenty-one years ago)

that's what i'd call good tv.

― ken c (ken c), Wednesday, 8 September 2004 10:24 (twenty-one years ago)

it would boost the ratings, which have apparently dropped by 20,000.

― splooge (thesplooge), Wednesday, 8 September 2004 10:27 (twenty-one years ago)

Don't know about good TV, but that's what I'd call a good life!

― Donnie Smith The Quiz Kid, Wednesday, 8 September 2004 10:28 (twenty-one years ago)

well, they added one viewer last night, my friend watched it with me for the first time...

― colette (a2lette), Wednesday, 8 September 2004 10:29 (twenty-one years ago)

good life is having your sexing interrupted by people knocking on the door?

― ken c (ken c), Wednesday, 8 September 2004 10:29 (twenty-one years ago)

but the sexing could continue from the window to the walls, with sweat drippping down your balls (im trying to remember that lil jon lyric here) and from the bed to the door.

― splooge (thesplooge), Wednesday, 8 September 2004 10:31 (twenty-one years ago)

Now I'm imagining someone inventing Dockable Boyfriends, rather like laptops

― caitlin (at work), Wednesday, 8 September 2004 10:33 (twenty-one years ago)

Dy-Lon. A series about boyfriends you put in the washing machine or leave to soak.

― splooge (thesplooge), Wednesday, 8 September 2004 10:34 (twenty-one years ago)

aren't they normally like that anyway? (laptops)

― ken c (ken c), Wednesday, 8 September 2004 10:35 (twenty-one years ago)

Py-Lon. It's electricity every time they touch.

― splooge (thesplooge), Wednesday, 8 September 2004 10:35 (twenty-one years ago)

i liked the Sam Wollaston's jokes better

― ken c (ken c), Wednesday, 8 September 2004 10:37 (twenty-one years ago)

i did too. i just like bad puns.

― splooge (thesplooge), Wednesday, 8 September 2004 10:39 (twenty-one years ago)

i have lowly wit, alas.

― splooge (thesplooge), Wednesday, 8 September 2004 10:42 (twenty-one years ago)

Not quite as lowly as the male lead's sideburns, though.

― Donnie Smith The Quiz Kid, Wednesday, 8 September 2004 11:24 (twenty-one years ago)

its to accentuate his sideburns.

― splooge (thesplooge), Wednesday, 8 September 2004 11:34 (twenty-one years ago)

its to accentuate his cheekbones.

― splooge (thesplooge), Wednesday, 8 September 2004 11:34 (twenty-one years ago)

splooge - things aren't going quite right today, are they?!

― ___ (___), Wednesday, 8 September 2004 11:37 (twenty-one years ago)

well, i really have work to do, but dont want to/cant do it, so find myself coming here in quick guilty short bursts, which is making me type any old thing.

― splooge (thesplooge), Wednesday, 8 September 2004 11:40 (twenty-one years ago)

It was strangely refreshing to have a love story where the woman is relatively poor and worthy and the man is rich.

You never grew up with Cinderella.

― B.A.R.M.S. (Barima), Wednesday, 8 September 2004 14:36 (twenty-one years ago)

Yeah, I know. But that's so old-fashioned now, it's hardly ever that way around. Pretty Woman is the last one I can remember, but there are loads of modern things with rich women and poor men. Perhaps they still think it's 'a twist'.

― Alba (Alba), Wednesday, 8 September 2004 15:21 (twenty-one years ago)

does Indecent Proposal count? although one of the two men involved is relatively poor too.

― ken c (ken c), Wednesday, 8 September 2004 15:24 (twenty-one years ago)

As you can guess, I'm eagerly awaiting Wimbledon.

― Alba (Alba), Wednesday, 8 September 2004 15:43 (twenty-one years ago)

Have we mentioned that the female lead is Quincy Jones' daughter yet?

― B.A.R.M.S. (Barima), Wednesday, 8 September 2004 15:46 (twenty-one years ago)

three weeks pass...

Is anyone still watching this?

I know it's rubbish, but my mum and I are strangely addicted to its crapness. An hour spent watching it, is an hour spent yelling at the TV.

― jellybean (jellybean), Wednesday, 29 September 2004 12:38 (twenty-one years ago)

I clicked on this thread thinking: "I wonder if this has been revived by someone asking if anyone was still watching it".

It's not crap. Edie's friends are, though.

― Alba (Alba), Wednesday, 29 September 2004 12:41 (twenty-one years ago)

I tried last night, since there was no CSI Classique.

I just couldn't get more than 20 minutes into it. It just made me too annoyed. And then when it stopped annoying me, it actually started BORING me. Like, WHY are you people even together? You don't even like each other! Why bother? Argh!

I was just bothered because they said they were going to Maxwells and the club they went to looked nothing like Maxwells. Sigh.

― Danger Whore (kate), Wednesday, 29 September 2004 12:41 (twenty-one years ago)

I managed about 90 seconds of the last episode last night before I started praying for NUCLEAR HOLOCAUST IN TWO MINUTES!!!

― Marcello Carlin, Wednesday, 29 September 2004 12:42 (twenty-one years ago)

i couldnt watch this without thinking of the shocking channel4 boardroom meetings that must have accompanied it. 10 wannabe hipsters and 5 execs thrashing out every cliche possible over soya latte's. i like soya latte's though.

― jed_ (jed), Wednesday, 29 September 2004 12:59 (twenty-one years ago)

I don't suppose the ending involved their being cut up, mutilated and tortured to death by a crackhead who'd just broken in?

― Marcello Carlin, Wednesday, 29 September 2004 13:03 (twenty-one years ago)

Unfortunately Marcello, they would appear to be targetting the shocking "everyone ends up with a perfect relationship with the one they should have been with all along" scenario. Surprised?

― ___ (___), Wednesday, 29 September 2004 13:09 (twenty-one years ago)

Frankly, no.

Jane Austen really has got a lot to answer for, hasn't she?

― Marcello Carlin, Wednesday, 29 September 2004 13:10 (twenty-one years ago)

God,,, you lot are a bunch of miseryguts.

― Alba (Alba), Wednesday, 29 September 2004 13:11 (twenty-one years ago)

God, you lot are a bunch of miseryguts.

― Alba (Alba), Wednesday, 29 September 2004 13:11 (twenty-one years ago)

My keyboard does that. It's weird.

― Alba (Alba), Wednesday, 29 September 2004 13:11 (twenty-one years ago)

go on then alba - tell us one good thing about it.

― jed_ (jed), Wednesday, 29 September 2004 13:14 (twenty-one years ago)

And why did all the "Americans" have dodgy English accents?

― Danger Whore (kate), Wednesday, 29 September 2004 13:14 (twenty-one years ago)

(xpost)

Better still Alba what's happening in River City?

― Marcello Carlin, Wednesday, 29 September 2004 13:15 (twenty-one years ago)

Alba - I have many reasons for getting frustrated with this programme. One being that my brother has actually done a pretty-much real life equivalent of the story, apart from neither of them goes anywhere good in NYC. Secondly, if I have been studying Tax all day - TAX - I would rather the bits of TV around 10pm to be better than that!

(x-post)

Oh god. River City. My friends Aunt works on that!

― ___ (___), Wednesday, 29 September 2004 13:17 (twenty-one years ago)

I Love River City almost as much as i love Coronation Street.

― jed_ (jed), Wednesday, 29 September 2004 13:32 (twenty-one years ago)

It really is so shockingly awful.

No chemistry between the couple, continuity errors the size of the atlantic when switching from "NY" to "LON", hideous high-concept title, woefull script.

But, I just can't stop watching teh fucker.

― Chewshabadoo (Chewshabadoo), Wednesday, 29 September 2004 13:34 (twenty-one years ago)

i thought last night's episode was really good - i was even mildly annoyed when my flatmate wanted to use the TV to play WWE smackdown instead.

i guess you have to be not so cynical to enjoy it. it's easy to pick holes.

― ken c (ken c), Wednesday, 29 September 2004 13:34 (twenty-one years ago)

In particular I want to know exactly what Ruth Ross is supposed to have done to make everyone hate her.

― Marcello Carlin, Wednesday, 29 September 2004 13:35 (twenty-one years ago)

i tend to be in on tuesdays, so i've been watching it. i don't think it's terrible (ok, it's pretty bad), but it's light entertainment. although i really was annoyed with both edie and her friends last night. and what happened to her friend in london? and is there only one more episode where they're going to try to tie up all those loose ends?

― colette (a2lette), Wednesday, 29 September 2004 13:36 (twenty-one years ago)

I think NYLON would have been immeasurably improved if the two leads had been obliged to indulge in some WWE smackdown activity.

As it is:

"oh why does life sort of have to be so like complicated and difficult?"

Here I'll show you how to make it less complicated!

BANG! BANG!

There! Two less whiny middle-class fuckwits to worry about!

― Marcello Carlin, Wednesday, 29 September 2004 13:37 (twenty-one years ago)

that girl isn't middle class.

― ken c (ken c), Wednesday, 29 September 2004 13:39 (twenty-one years ago)

Michael never whines about anything really.

― Alba (Alba), Wednesday, 29 September 2004 13:40 (twenty-one years ago)

She's more middle class than he is, ken!

― Alba (Alba), Wednesday, 29 September 2004 13:40 (twenty-one years ago)

it's not as good as Attachments is it? they should've combined the two, damn you dotcom collapse

― Brigadier Rainham Steele, Mrs (blueski), Wednesday, 29 September 2004 13:40 (twenty-one years ago)

For those fucking sideburns alone HE DESERVES TO FUCKEN DIE!!!!!!!!!!!

Kill all Tories. That's my theme for today. And indeed every day, unless it isn't.

― Marcello Carlin, Wednesday, 29 September 2004 13:41 (twenty-one years ago)

only tories have sideburns now?

― ken c (ken c), Wednesday, 29 September 2004 13:42 (twenty-one years ago)

Is he even a Tory? Who can say in this topsy-turvy world which NY-LON so deftly depicts.

― Alba (Alba), Wednesday, 29 September 2004 13:43 (twenty-one years ago)

xpost but doesn't she like work in some record store/crappy school? she's gotta be broke after the phone bill and flights.

― ken c (ken c), Wednesday, 29 September 2004 13:43 (twenty-one years ago)

He was clearly fished out of the disused Capital City breadbin and is therefore a cryogenically-defrosted thrusting '80s Thatcherite goer and doer. Except they had to draw the line at the red braces.

― Marcello Carlin, Wednesday, 29 September 2004 13:45 (twenty-one years ago)

people in New York get paid $60,000 a year to work in record stores

― Brigadier Rainham Steele, Mrs (blueski), Wednesday, 29 September 2004 13:45 (twenty-one years ago)

you could say the same about people in london

except you'd have to insert a decimal point after the second of these digits.

― Marcello Carlin, Wednesday, 29 September 2004 13:46 (twenty-one years ago)

and she doesn't come to London that much cos she knows a month's wages for her wouldn't even buy a packet of Polos in this stupid country

― Brigadier Rainham Steele, Mrs (blueski), Wednesday, 29 September 2004 13:46 (twenty-one years ago)

cute pout tho

― Brigadier Rainham Steele, Mrs (blueski), Wednesday, 29 September 2004 13:47 (twenty-one years ago)

Was "Polo Mint City" the only decent track Texas have ever recorded?

― Marcello Carlin, Wednesday, 29 September 2004 13:47 (twenty-one years ago)

He was clearly fished out of the disused Capital City breadbin and is therefore a cryogenically-defrosted thrusting '80s Thatcherite goer and doer.

that was the big twist in the end Marcello, you just gave it away! He was supposed to reveal himself as some kind of time traveller sent by Thatcher to infiltrate 2000s USA to weaken it for future Britain's benefits, under the disguise of some city loser falling in love with an american record store clerk with a $60,000 income.

― ken c (ken c), Wednesday, 29 September 2004 13:49 (twenty-one years ago)

and THEN she reveals that she was actually a terminator robot sent from the FUTURE USA to destroy this infiltrator by getting pregnant by him and then cripple him financially with support fund.

― ken c (ken c), Wednesday, 29 September 2004 13:50 (twenty-one years ago)

At which point the cast of 'Preston Front' come in and look bemused. Alastair McGowan does his Prince Naseem impression. They leave.

― William Bloody Swygart (mrswygart), Wednesday, 29 September 2004 13:51 (twenty-one years ago)

Upon which, enter Bruce Willis to reveal that Michael had dreamed the American record store clerk, who in truth had sustained fatal cerebellar injuries caused by a freak storm of frogs in 1928.

― Marcello Carlin, Wednesday, 29 September 2004 13:52 (twenty-one years ago)

and then Momus arrives.

― ken c (ken c), Wednesday, 29 September 2004 13:52 (twenty-one years ago)

xpost but doesn't she like work in some record store/crappy school? she's gotta be broke after the phone bill and flights.

You were talking about class, not wealth.

― Alba (Alba), Wednesday, 29 September 2004 13:54 (twenty-one years ago)

but economic classes have something to do with wealth right?

― ken c (ken c), Wednesday, 29 September 2004 13:55 (twenty-one years ago)

Of course, but you can't go from saying 'x is poor' to 'x isn't middle-class'.

― Alba (Alba), Wednesday, 29 September 2004 13:59 (twenty-one years ago)

her x IS middle-class, fnar

― Brigadier Rainham Steele, Mrs (blueski), Wednesday, 29 September 2004 14:01 (twenty-one years ago)

It's like all over television at the moment. There was a thing called Dirty Filthy Love on ITV on Sunday about a couple with obsessive/compulsive behaviour syndrome and the guy's condition had cost him his job/marriage/etc. but he was a FUCKING ARCHITECT!! Put me off it after about 40 seconds and I switched over to watch Dirty War on BBC1 which was so crass you were waiting for Amanda Burton to come on and do her knowing look into the distance.

― Marcello Carlin, Wednesday, 29 September 2004 14:05 (twenty-one years ago)

― RJG (RJG), Wednesday, 29 September 2004 14:06 (twenty-one years ago)

river city is.

― cºzen (Cozen), Thursday, 30 September 2004 07:12 (twenty-one years ago)

They argue too much, I'll be glad when it's over.

― jel -- (jel), Thursday, 30 September 2004 16:32 (twenty-one years ago)

Dirty filty love was hideous - first five minutes "who lives in a house like this?" answer: absofuckinglutely no one. flick!

― jed_ (jed), Thursday, 30 September 2004 16:35 (twenty-one years ago)

Left open for another series that hopefully won't get commissioned. And before anyone raises the point that I watched it - so would you if the alternative was revising consolidation of Management Accounts!

― ___ (___), Tuesday, 5 October 2004 21:03 (twenty-one years ago)

That was a rubbish last episode. It was a complete mess and Michael stopped being cool at all.

― Alba (Alba), Wednesday, 6 October 2004 00:14 (twenty-one years ago)

At which point the cast of 'Preston Front' come in and look bemused.

Haha Preston Front! I loved that! So much so that I wrote this...the things one does for a dollar or two.

― CharlieNo4 (Charlie), Wednesday, 6 October 2004 08:55 (twenty-one years ago)

Ha ha, that episode was GRATE!!! Best one yet! They argued and argued and then they BROKE UP BECAUSE THEY REALISED IT WAS STUPID, like most LDRs do.

I was most satisfied with that ending. No one ended up happy. Hurrah!

― what katie didn't do, Wednesday, 6 October 2004 09:09 (twenty-one years ago)

Yes, I was pleased that they didn't go for a happy ending

(but it was still rub)

― caitlin (caitlin), Wednesday, 6 October 2004 11:03 (twenty-one years ago)

does anyone think the show actually 'demystified'/deglamourised New York for a British audience that no show before (British or American) had done? good thing or bad thing? conscious/intentional or otherwise?

― Senor Embargo (blueski), Wednesday, 6 October 2004 11:05 (twenty-one years ago)

It certainly looked shit. You may be right.

― Alba (Alba), Wednesday, 6 October 2004 11:06 (twenty-one years ago)

i quite liked her apartment

― Senor Embargo (blueski), Wednesday, 6 October 2004 11:15 (twenty-one years ago)

Yeah, but you'd have to hang out with her rubbish friends if you lived there.

― Alba (Alba), Wednesday, 6 October 2004 11:18 (twenty-one years ago)

One of her friends had some cool boots. There wasn't anything else appealing about them, though.

(Gah, after reading this thread I now have the theme music stuck in my head)

― caitlin (caitlin), Wednesday, 6 October 2004 11:20 (twenty-one years ago)

Is that the bit written by Amelia Fletcher or something.

I can't even think what the theme tune is.

I really liked that steel drummy bit that came in a few minutes into some of the early episodes.

― Alba (Alba), Wednesday, 6 October 2004 11:24 (twenty-one years ago)

i was surprised with how it ended, but i thought it was ok. it was a painful episode to watch, because if i wanted to watch people shout at each other, i'd have a boyfriend of my own to argue with and listen to.

but i was glad they didn't go for the fake-sweet ending and just kind of left it on a somewhat optimistic yet bitter note. hurrah. if this had been made in the US, they would have ended up in a white wedding.

― colette (a2lette), Wednesday, 6 October 2004 11:31 (twenty-one years ago)

Wasn't it a UK-US co-production? I may have imagined this.

― Alba (Alba), Wednesday, 6 October 2004 11:54 (twenty-one years ago)

i thought it was all done by channel 4. i didn't notice any US network info...

― colette (a2lette), Wednesday, 6 October 2004 11:56 (twenty-one years ago)

NY:PALvision makes Teh Big Apple look a lot more ordinary

― Senor Embargo (blueski), Wednesday, 6 October 2004 11:58 (twenty-one years ago)

My flatmate was convinced that all that 'Americans' were actually English and putting on accidents, saying things like "They're so obviously not American!"

I assumed they were all real, except for maybe the ridiculous one whose husband left her.

You're probably right about it being only C4. I don't know where I got the co-production notion from.

― Alba (Alba), Wednesday, 6 October 2004 12:00 (twenty-one years ago)

their teeth were too good for them to be British

I don't know where I got the co-production notion from

one would be forgiven for assuming C4 wouldn't be able to scrape the cash together to go film on location like that, but then it WAS a record year for BB txts (again)

― Senor Embargo (blueski), Wednesday, 6 October 2004 12:04 (twenty-one years ago)

i figured that they probably hired people in each place, rather than try to find people that could fake the accents. the chucked wife's accent was weird, but there's people that talk like that both here and there. accents get muddy if people stay here long enough. my friends at home mock me for my 'english intonation' (although my parents are proud that i haven't picked up a completely fake accent)

― colette (a2lette), Wednesday, 6 October 2004 12:09 (twenty-one years ago)

Oh, no -- I missed the end of NY-LON!

― the bellefox, Wednesday, 6 October 2004 12:47 (twenty-one years ago)

I FEEL CHEATED!

I mean, geez, I sat through 7 of weeks of them arguing! And they go and break up anyway! Twits!

I guess they will just make a second series.

― jel -- (jel), Wednesday, 6 October 2004 15:12 (twenty-one years ago)

I guess they will not, judging by the ratings.

― Alba (Alba), Wednesday, 6 October 2004 15:14 (twenty-one years ago)

They could put an animated special on the DVD box set?

― jel -- (jel), Wednesday, 6 October 2004 15:15 (twenty-one years ago)

That is a good idea.

― Alba (Alba), Wednesday, 6 October 2004 15:31 (twenty-one years ago)

I'll get going with the script, someone see if Tony Hart is free to draw some stuff.

― jel -- (jel), Wednesday, 6 October 2004 15:34 (twenty-one years ago)

you should draw it

― Senor Embargo (blueski), Wednesday, 6 October 2004 15:34 (twenty-one years ago)

in fact i expect you to direct it using puppets you made yourself, out of, yes, nylon

― Senor Embargo (blueski), Wednesday, 6 October 2004 15:35 (twenty-one years ago)

okay, check back in a week, I'll see what I can do.

― jel -- (jel), Wednesday, 6 October 2004 15:36 (twenty-one years ago)

I think the puppets should (ironically) be made of cotton, to give jel something to tell people on museum tours, or making nostalgia shows about the animated NY:LON in years hence.

― Alba (Alba), Wednesday, 6 October 2004 15:38 (twenty-one years ago)

"You know the puppets in NY:LON were actually made of cotton" = the top Use Other Facts Please of the 2020s.

― Alba (Alba), Wednesday, 6 October 2004 15:40 (twenty-one years ago)

I'm thinking...felt cut-outs stuck on pencils. I could make a little stage out of a shoe box and some toilet rolls.

― jel -- (jel), Wednesday, 6 October 2004 15:42 (twenty-one years ago)

CO:TON

― Senor Embargo (blueski), Wednesday, 6 October 2004 16:00 (twenty-one years ago)

Buxton and Cornish will be proud

― Senor Embargo (blueski), Wednesday, 6 October 2004 16:01 (twenty-one years ago)

The few fragments of this I saw led me to believe it might have been worse than Metrosexuality. I therefore decided to avoid it like the plague.

― Ricardo (RickyT), Wednesday, 6 October 2004 17:39 (twenty-one years ago)

It wasn't *that* bad. But then, very little is.

― caitlin (caitlin), Wednesday, 6 October 2004 20:12 (twenty-one years ago)

it was a painful episode to watch, because if i wanted to watch people shout at each other, i'd have a boyfriend of my own to argue with and listen to.

This is exactly why it was *good* for me to watch it. All it made me think was "my god, I'm so much better off without this crap!"

― Danger Whore (kate), Friday, 8 October 2004 07:28 (twenty-one years ago)

Is jel making progress on his puppets?

― Alba (Alba), Friday, 8 October 2004 07:30 (twenty-one years ago)

The thing is though, their arguments were just so SHIT! They weren't even thinking it through, they were just pouting like pre-teens and basically saying "you're a poo-poo head" and "if I can't have it, no-one can" and suchlike. It's obvious the scriptwriter's never actually had a decent shouting match in his/her life. Feh.

― CharlieNo4 (Charlie), Friday, 8 October 2004 07:53 (twenty-one years ago)

oh no i missed it :\ is there going to be a repeat sometime this week? (on E4 or somthing?)

― ken c (ken c), Friday, 8 October 2004 07:57 (twenty-one years ago)

I've decided to make some NY:Lon inspired artwork as well, need to go to the art shop! The puppets may have to be longterm project.

― jel -- (jel), Friday, 8 October 2004 15:18 (twenty-one years ago)

i'd settle for a one page comic strip in your inimitable style :)

― Freelance Hiveminder (blueski), Friday, 8 October 2004 15:22 (twenty-one years ago)

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v210/jel2004/nylon.jpg

peace out, love jel

― jel -- (jel), Friday, 8 October 2004 18:12 (twenty-one years ago)

Awesome. The actual show doesn't seem so good anymore. What is Seth doing on the floor? I can't even remember who Seth is.

― Alba (Alba), Friday, 8 October 2004 18:25 (twenty-one years ago)

nice job jel!

― jed_ (jed), Friday, 8 October 2004 18:33 (twenty-one years ago)

haha classic.

― cºzen (Cozen), Friday, 8 October 2004 20:05 (twenty-one years ago)

haha jel you should do some of these on freaky trigger.

― Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Friday, 8 October 2004 20:39 (twenty-one years ago)

Thanks dudes!

Seth was the creepy record shop guy, who was watching Eadie via the security cameras or just lurking in the background. Perhaps I'm the only person who picked up on this sub-plot. In the picture, he is lying on the floor with his tongue out and dribbling.

― jel -- (jel), Saturday, 9 October 2004 15:31 (twenty-one years ago)

that's another thing that annoyed me about NY-LON. There were so many sub-plots that they hinted at, and they didn't do anything with them. If they developed any of them, for example that Seth one, turning him into a stalker & psycho (they started to do that in the last episode didn't they? with pictures of Edie on the wall of his office i think), it would have been so much more interesting.

― jellybean (jellybean), Saturday, 9 October 2004 15:45 (twenty-one years ago)

maybe they thought that would have been too much of a distraction for a seven episode series.

― ken c (ken c), Saturday, 9 October 2004 15:52 (twenty-one years ago)

yes, because they have to fill at least 20 minutes with bad indie and scenic shots.

― jel -- (jel), Saturday, 9 October 2004 15:53 (twenty-one years ago)

it's not eastenders, afterall.

― ken c (ken c), Saturday, 9 October 2004 16:13 (twenty-one years ago)

very good work jel

― Freelance Hiveminder (blueski), Monday, 11 October 2004 08:24 (twenty-one years ago)

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