defend the indefensible: new jersey

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Difficulty: No references to its proximity to NYC.

cdwill, Friday, 29 October 2004 19:37 (twenty-one years ago)

I don't care what anyone says, I love Jersey.

Except Newark. Newark can go fuck its hat.

luna (luna.c), Friday, 29 October 2004 19:42 (twenty-one years ago)

Sandy Hook is cool.

Nemo (JND), Friday, 29 October 2004 19:42 (twenty-one years ago)

luna, tell me about it. I'm in NWK right now.

I've been asked for a cigarette by five different people in the last 20 minutes.

cdwill, Friday, 29 October 2004 19:44 (twenty-one years ago)

Three words: Naughty By Nature.

briania (briania), Friday, 29 October 2004 19:45 (twenty-one years ago)

oh man. You have no idea. On the contrary, New Jersey is a wonderfully fantastic state, filled with contradictions and has much to offer. It's population is the most dense and it features some of the Richest and Poorest areas in the country. It has some of the most dense urban sprawl and extreme stretches of woodland. Those who've never left the turnpike may not know why it is called The Garden State, but those of us who have, and esp those like me who grew up there, certainly know, and after spending some time in various parts of the midwest, I wouldn't trade the hills and valleys and dense forest of New Jersey for endless cornfields. It is also amongst the most socially/culturally/racially diverse states, has a fantastic shoreline, from the classic sketchy boardwalks to the beauty of Long Beach Island and Cape May. Diners were pretty much invented here, as were most of the work of Thomas Edison. Our tomatos are the best in the country, and we are home to WFMU, the best radio station on the planet. Bruce Springsteen and the Misfits both come from there, not to mention some great classic hip-hop and house music.

We are also a bizarre state filled with mysteries to a degree that makes most other states boring. Please visit http://www.weirdnj.com/ for starters.

I live in Brooklyn now, which I love, but I intend on moving back there eventually.

Dan Selzer (Dan Selzer), Friday, 29 October 2004 19:48 (twenty-one years ago)

If not for NJ, I would not be here today.

jocelyn (Jocelyn), Friday, 29 October 2004 19:50 (twenty-one years ago)

New Jersey is for lovers?

Kenan (kenan), Friday, 29 October 2004 19:51 (twenty-one years ago)

You don't have to pump your own gas? Actually, I hate that.

Pleasant Plains (Pleasant Plains), Friday, 29 October 2004 19:55 (twenty-one years ago)

new jersey is amazing. i've posted many times on this subject.

motown modown (Jody Beth Rosen), Friday, 29 October 2004 19:56 (twenty-one years ago)

NYC - Jersey - Delaware - Philly christmas vacation photo thread! (do not read if you have food issues)

motown modown (Jody Beth Rosen), Friday, 29 October 2004 19:59 (twenty-one years ago)

please do google searches on the Jackson Whites and the Jersey Devil.

Dan Selzer (Dan Selzer), Friday, 29 October 2004 20:00 (twenty-one years ago)

http://www.envasion.net/2001/pix/devilmap.jpg
wow

jocelyn (Jocelyn), Friday, 29 October 2004 20:02 (twenty-one years ago)

the pine barrens are beautiful.

haha when chris saw harold and kumar out in california, an audience member exclaimed "i didn't know new jersey had trees!"

motown modown (Jody Beth Rosen), Friday, 29 October 2004 20:05 (twenty-one years ago)

when I was in elementary school we were taught about the Jersey Devil as if it was fact.

If you see the movie Garden State, which is interesting, not a great film, a bit sentimental/melodramatic but pretty entertaining, it's pretty OTM as far as Jersey is concerned. The giant cavern they visited? There was something like that right near my house. They had started to dig it out for construction but it was too rocky and they had to strand the cranes at the bottom of this pit. I used to play on them.

Dan Selzer (Dan Selzer), Friday, 29 October 2004 20:07 (twenty-one years ago)

My mom's cousins came from Hungary to NJ after the '56 revolution. They went back shortly, preferring to live with communism than in Newark.

jocelyn (Jocelyn), Friday, 29 October 2004 20:11 (twenty-one years ago)

what part of nj are you from, dan?

motown modown (Jody Beth Rosen), Friday, 29 October 2004 20:12 (twenty-one years ago)

they could've lived in parts of New Jersey that weren't Newark of course. And I assume the Newark of 56 is not the Newark of today. Have you read Philip Roth's Portnoy's Complaint?

I was born and raised in West Orange, NJ. Home of Thomas Edison and the House of Music recording studios, where much of Dr. Buzzard's Original Savannah Band and Meatloaf's Bat out of Hell were recorded.

Dan Selzer (Dan Selzer), Friday, 29 October 2004 20:15 (twenty-one years ago)

west orange is also home to the joy luck chinese pavilion, which serves some of the best dim sum in the tri-state area!

motown modown (Jody Beth Rosen), Friday, 29 October 2004 20:19 (twenty-one years ago)

the newark of today is definitely way different. there's been talk of a "newark renaissance" for some years now and while parts of it are still a bit sketch, the downtown area is generally really nice - the NJPAC and its surrounding area are great, at any rate. and my friends and i had planned on taking a day trip to the ironbound district over the summer but that unfortunately never materialized.

i go to school in new york and i love it here to death, but "indefensible?" any state that contains the godlike and glorious MAGIC GRILL (in garwood, nj) is way more worthy of defense than, say...actually, no, i'm not stooping to the "trash a state i've never been to" level. and yeah, fuck you to the people who judge nj from the vantage point of the turnpike/GS parkway alone (and i love the GS parkway, FWIW).

(this sounded a bit more jingoistic than i'd intended, but really. nj's a fine state.)

joseph (joseph), Friday, 29 October 2004 20:28 (twenty-one years ago)

um, slight x-post, that

joseph (joseph), Friday, 29 October 2004 20:28 (twenty-one years ago)

(and i love your particular defense of the state in general upthread, dan. ever been to any of those famous weird nj sites? we tried a gates of hell trip once, only half of us made it (i was not in that half))

joseph (joseph), Friday, 29 October 2004 20:30 (twenty-one years ago)

newark is pretty sketchy and i wouldn't wanna be by myself there after dark, but ironbound really is a treasure.

motown modown (Jody Beth Rosen), Friday, 29 October 2004 20:31 (twenty-one years ago)

i like the train station too -- '30s deco meets grim wpa functionality.

motown modown (Jody Beth Rosen), Friday, 29 October 2004 20:34 (twenty-one years ago)

jersey's a great state - the florida of the north! fantastic

cinniblount (James Blount), Friday, 29 October 2004 21:31 (twenty-one years ago)

Bon Jovi to thread, obv.

sundar subramanian (sundar), Friday, 29 October 2004 21:35 (twenty-one years ago)

I purposefully left him out!

Dan Selzer (Dan Selzer), Friday, 29 October 2004 21:46 (twenty-one years ago)

I miss New Jersey soooooo much.

tokyo rosemary (rosemary), Saturday, 30 October 2004 00:53 (twenty-one years ago)

I've been asked for a cigarette by five different people in the last 20 minutes.

this was my l-school in newark experience, only it was for 3 years -- and made bearable by the fact that had i gone to camden instead, i woulda been shot for refusing to give a cigarette to a panhandler.

Jerseybär (llamasfur), Saturday, 30 October 2004 01:03 (twenty-one years ago)

TS: north jersey v. south jersey!!

Eisbär (llamasfur), Saturday, 30 October 2004 01:03 (twenty-one years ago)

I was born and raised in West Orange, NJ. Home of Thomas Edison and the House of Music recording studios, where much of Dr. Buzzard's Original Savannah Band and Meatloaf's Bat out of Hell were recorded.

and where Uncle Floyd started ... don't forget Uncle Floyd!!! (or you lose yer jersey license!)

Eisbär (llamasfur), Saturday, 30 October 2004 01:05 (twenty-one years ago)

i thought this was about the new spurs jersey. i quite like that, for the record.

darragh.mac (darragh.mac), Saturday, 30 October 2004 01:15 (twenty-one years ago)

of course...Uncle Floyd.

Adding to the contradictions that is NJ, disregarding the request to not discuss proximity to NYC, yes, while a portion of NJ is a suburb of NYC, another portion is a suburb of Philadelphia, and people who live in south Jersey do not in any way identify with north Jersey or NYC, despite it not being that long a drive. My family was split in two, my cousins were all in Cherry Hill.

also...Ruts Hut to thread, world-famous "ripper" hot dogs.

Dan Selzer (Dan Selzer), Saturday, 30 October 2004 03:38 (twenty-one years ago)

gah! that place scares me.

motown modown (Jody Beth Rosen), Saturday, 30 October 2004 03:57 (twenty-one years ago)

Indefensible? Hardly. Try posting a thread challenging Indiana, or Oklahoma, or Alabama. Trouble is, no one in those states is literate enough to post here, and even if they are, they probably buy all of their music in WalMart.

Hurting (Hurting), Saturday, 30 October 2004 04:09 (twenty-one years ago)

Indiana's not as bad as freakin' Oklahoma! Come on!

Kenan (kenan), Saturday, 30 October 2004 04:39 (twenty-one years ago)

Try posting a thread challenging Indiana, or Oklahoma, or Alabama. Trouble is, no one in those states is literate enough to post here, and even if they are, they probably buy all of their music in WalMart.

John Berryman, Ralph Ellison, James Garner, Paul Harvey, Ron Howard, Jeane Kirkpatrick, Bill Moyers, Daniel Patrick Moynihan, Tony Randall, Will Rogers, Jeanne Tripplehorn, Bill Blass, James Dean, Theodore Dreiser, Virgil Grissom, David Letterman, Eli Lilly, Carole Lombard, Andrew J. Moywer, Cole Porter, James Whitcomb Riley, Kurt Vonnegut Jr., Wilbur Wright, Ralph Abernathy, Tallulah Bankhead, Nat "King" Cole, Zelda Sayre Fitzgerald, Emmylou Harris, Helen Keller, Coretta Scott King, Harper Lee, Jesse Owens, and Rosa Parks in being illiterate and uncultured slobs shocker.

i.e., Hurting, your obscenely narrow-minded world view appalls me. It is my hope that you're just a glorified trollbeing, but it is my fear that you truly believe the unenlightened bullshit you spew.

Accept No Substitutes (Dee the Lurker), Saturday, 30 October 2004 05:36 (twenty-one years ago)

Andrew J. Moywer -- is supposed to be Andrew J. Moyer. No "w" in that last name. And really, just because a state is considered "boring" and "lacking in 'culture'" to one person doesn't mean that that state is, in reality, "boring" or "lacking in 'culture'". News flash -- museums and galleries exist EVERYWHERE these days, and there's this newfangled thing called the Internet that makes that whole geographical distance thing a bit easier to deal with in terms of being exposed to others from outside one's own community.

(This could also apply to the original thread topic challenge, I think.)

Accept No Substitutes (Dee the Lurker), Saturday, 30 October 2004 05:39 (twenty-one years ago)

"i.e., Hurting, your obscenely narrow-minded world view appalls me. It is my hope that you're just a glorified trollbeing, but it is my fear that you truly believe the unenlightened bullshit you spew. "

Relax. I thought it was pretty clear that I was being somewhat facetious.

Hurting (Hurting), Saturday, 30 October 2004 05:53 (twenty-one years ago)

But I maintain that New Jersey is a considerably better state to live in than those, Bill Blass and Ralph Abernathy notwithstanding.

Hurting (Hurting), Saturday, 30 October 2004 05:54 (twenty-one years ago)

I'll back down then, only because it is, after all, your prerogative to believe that one place is "considerably better" than another, just as someone else might think the reverse.

(You want someone to "defend the indefensible", region-wise? I'm [mostly] your girl.)

Accept No Substitutes (Dee the Lurker), Saturday, 30 October 2004 06:09 (twenty-one years ago)

haha the only music i've bought this year i bought at wal-mart!

cinniblount (James Blount), Saturday, 30 October 2004 06:24 (twenty-one years ago)

where does hurting buy his/her music?

cinniblount (James Blount), Saturday, 30 October 2004 06:24 (twenty-one years ago)

i love it when people say incredibly dickheaded things and then say 'relax' when someone goes 'hey, you're a dickhead'

cinniblount (James Blount), Saturday, 30 October 2004 06:25 (twenty-one years ago)

relax, dude was kidding

motown modown (Jody Beth Rosen), Saturday, 30 October 2004 06:31 (twenty-one years ago)

IT IS LIKE TOTALLY BETTER THAN TEH OC AND TEH VALLEY BY LIKE SO HELLA MUCH, LIKE REALLY.

Vic, Saturday, 30 October 2004 15:14 (twenty-one years ago)

You don't have to pump your own gas? Actually, I hate that.
Oh, that drives me nuts. What an idiotic law.

Other reasons to love NJ:

Because of my Joisey accent, my best friend thought I grew up in Marstown until he flew out to NJ with me for a short vacation and we got off 287 at Morristown. He's from Virginia, where they don't skip syllables.

Incredible bakeries.

You had to get on a highway & back off one exit later to reach the closest place to buy milk from my parents old house. However, the store, was really only 1/4 mile away- just on the wrong side of the highway, without which, you could have walked over to it.

DINERS. I can't believe the rest of the country hasn't caught onto how to do these right.

lyra (lyra), Saturday, 30 October 2004 15:16 (twenty-one years ago)

Also, my cousin's cat lives there, and likes it.

Vic, Saturday, 30 October 2004 15:20 (twenty-one years ago)

I live in Morristown right now and type from there as we speak. It's a good town, and I'll be here for the foreseeable future as I just bought a house. Anyway, New Jersey is confusing and exciting and I never thought I'd end up here (back to where I grew up --well 7 miles from anyway-- ya know) but I love it. Jersey shoreline is etched in my bones. Very few good record stores around me. Great food, everywhere. Good people, culturally & economically and otherwise diverse neighborhood here, very walkable town. It's definitely defensible but maybe I'm biased so I'll let others defend it.

mcd (mcd), Saturday, 30 October 2004 16:44 (twenty-one years ago)

the princeton record exchange, baby

results not typical (Jody Beth Rosen), Saturday, 30 October 2004 16:49 (twenty-one years ago)

Sure, PREX in the running for the best record store anywhere, and I get there occasionally, but unfortunately it's 61 miles away.

mcd (mcd), Saturday, 30 October 2004 16:53 (twenty-one years ago)

i'm still bitter about the closing of crazy rhythms in montclair.

results not typical (Jody Beth Rosen), Saturday, 30 October 2004 18:46 (twenty-one years ago)

The Sopranos is set there.

Wooden (Wooden), Saturday, 30 October 2004 18:47 (twenty-one years ago)

the jersey devil!

latebloomer (latebloomer), Saturday, 30 October 2004 19:01 (twenty-one years ago)

bruce

RJG (RJG), Saturday, 30 October 2004 20:10 (twenty-one years ago)

the bongos

results not typical (Jody Beth Rosen), Saturday, 30 October 2004 22:10 (twenty-one years ago)

also...Ruts Hut to thread, world-famous "ripper" hot dogs.

Holy shit, Dan Selzer, are you sure you're not related to me? My brother has not one, but TWO Ruts Hut t-shirts. My dad used to take my mom there for dinner when they were dating. Hot, eh? I love that place, damnit.

I was born in Passaic County and raised in Bergen County, home of the most malls per sq. mile. I love Jersey. It will always be home.

Je4nne ƒury (Jeanne Fury), Saturday, 30 October 2004 22:34 (twenty-one years ago)

jane from Oneida was wearing a Rut's Hut t-shirt at a little house party one day. I flipped out, apparently his bandmates took him there for his bachelor party! My father grew up in Clifton/Passaic, used to take me there growing up. Also, at this one place in West Orange, "italian" hot-dogs = hot dogs on pita bread with fried potatoes and onions and pepper. I've never seen this anywhere else.

Dan Selzer (Dan Selzer), Saturday, 30 October 2004 22:40 (twenty-one years ago)

"very walkable town"

Yes! I went to school in Morris County, and you could walk all over town, and also catch buses or trains to either nearby towns or the city. Now I live in a suburb where you have to drive EVERYWHERE, yuck.

I have never been to the Princeton Record Exchange.

tokyo rosemary (rosemary), Sunday, 31 October 2004 02:22 (twenty-one years ago)

rosemary, we have to go! i found my copy of the jewish-american princess there.

results not typical (Jody Beth Rosen), Sunday, 31 October 2004 02:47 (twenty-one years ago)

i found mine at the wfmu record fair!

tokyo rosemary (rosemary), Sunday, 31 October 2004 02:48 (twenty-one years ago)

i spent a decent amount of time ... and an indecent amount of money ... at the princeton record exchange whilst growing up & in college. its allure is somewhat gone, in this amazon and P2P trading era, but it still beats 99.99% of other record stores hands down.

Adding to the contradictions that is NJ, disregarding the request to not discuss proximity to NYC, yes, while a portion of NJ is a suburb of NYC, another portion is a suburb of Philadelphia, and people who live in south Jersey do not in any way identify with north Jersey or NYC, despite it not being that long a drive. My family was split in two, my cousins were all in Cherry Hill.

this was a good summary of my undergrad days, when i met students from north jersey. north jersey might have been the northside of mars!

Eisbär (llamasfur), Sunday, 31 October 2004 02:53 (twenty-one years ago)

the real odd ducks, though, were the unfortunate RU students from MUCH further south than, say, cherry hill. i mean the students from vineland, cape may, or salem and gloucester counties generally. if north jersey = north mars, deep south jersey = mississippi.

Eisbär (llamasfur), Sunday, 31 October 2004 02:55 (twenty-one years ago)

http://scc.rutgers.edu/njencyclopedia/cover.jpg

this book is kinda cool, one of my local libraries has it

tokyo rosemary (rosemary), Sunday, 31 October 2004 03:01 (twenty-one years ago)

one of my exes came from cherry hill; as an adult he moved to philly. another ex was from freehold; he moved to nyc. (nb: the freehold guy was much cooler and more worldly. it's that PROXIMITY TO NYC, nyeh nyeh.)

results not typical (Jody Beth Rosen), Sunday, 31 October 2004 03:15 (twenty-one years ago)

I forgot a reason- CLERKS!

lyra (lyra), Sunday, 31 October 2004 03:18 (twenty-one years ago)

NJ was, is, and apparently always shall be underrated.

mike a, Sunday, 31 October 2004 03:59 (twenty-one years ago)

i've also never been to the princeton record exchange, despite being told repeatedly about how great it is. i'm from union county though and lack a car, so a trip isn't in the cards anytime soon, either. shame.

joseph (joseph), Thursday, 4 November 2004 01:54 (twenty-one years ago)

Sad to say though, but the Princeton Record Exchange is not nearly as good as it used to be. Last I went they had maybe half the vinyl they used to have. Still better then most record stores, but living in NYC and having quite a few options, such as the Academy stores, for vinyl, it just doesn't hold up.

Dan Selzer (Dan Selzer), Thursday, 4 November 2004 02:20 (twenty-one years ago)

The thing about prex is that sometimes the stock is hearty and others not so much. Still great!

mcd (mcd), Thursday, 4 November 2004 03:34 (twenty-one years ago)

http://www.occdsb.on.ca/~sel/cahero/images/brodeur02.jpg

That's about it...

Jimmy Mod always makes friends with women before bedding them down (ModJ), Thursday, 4 November 2004 03:39 (twenty-one years ago)

I'm pretty sure New Jersey voted for Kerry.

isn't that enough?

trigonalmayhem (trigonalmayhem), Thursday, 4 November 2004 03:48 (twenty-one years ago)

I'm pretty sure New Jersey voted for Kerry.
isn't that enough?

YES

Eisbär (llamasfur), Thursday, 4 November 2004 04:42 (twenty-one years ago)

hands up, everyone whose state has pine barrens. or towns with names like ong's hat, hohokus, zarephath, etc.

i'm not even from new jersey and i love it.

el sabor de gene (yournullfame), Thursday, 4 November 2004 06:27 (twenty-one years ago)

zarephath = a village on an island in the raritan river FILLED WITH JESUS PEOPLE WHO HAVE THIS RADIO STATION WHOSE RELIGIOUS BROADCASTS THAT COULD PENETRATE A NUCLEAR BUNKER. scary place, scary people, scary station.

Eisbär (llamasfur), Thursday, 4 November 2004 06:35 (twenty-one years ago)

there's 2 cool things we share w/ conneticut

First: All the italians who made NY pizza what it was when it became an institution and all the jews who made NY bagels what they were when they became an institution almost all live in Jersey and Conneticut now, which is why you have to go to Livingston to get REAL bagels.

Second: Also in Livingston, there were these weird fenced off areas of the woods with empty fields on them heavily guarded for most of the 60s/70s/80s etc. Only later did I realize what they were...missile silos! To protect NYC...

Dan Selzer (Dan Selzer), Thursday, 4 November 2004 07:34 (twenty-one years ago)

NJ rules because it has proper seasons, the people there are witty and towns with cool names like mahwah and rahway.

they have crazy sandwiches called 'fat moons' that have chips, burgers and mozzarella stix fillings.

sophie, Thursday, 4 November 2004 09:59 (twenty-one years ago)

two months pass...
Is there a New Jersey accent or dialect?

.adam (nordicskilla), Wednesday, 5 January 2005 00:19 (twenty-one years ago)

*boggle*

gabbneb (gabbneb), Wednesday, 5 January 2005 00:23 (twenty-one years ago)

Oh, so it's like the one in the movies? I've only been to Newark.

.adam (nordicskilla), Wednesday, 5 January 2005 00:24 (twenty-one years ago)

That Weird NJ site mentioned upthread is amazing. I have a fascination with places that are run down and empty, but you know once they were places of grandeur - Asbury Park made me feel all spooked reading about it. Coney Islands a bit like that too yeah? Not abandoned tho.

I like old dead creepy seaside places. I guess thats why I like St Kilda too (or well - St Kilda how it was before the damn yuppies moved in and tarted up all the old dirty charm).

Trayce (trayce), Wednesday, 5 January 2005 00:46 (twenty-one years ago)

Is there a New Jersey accent or dialect?

there are many!

Turkey versus Eagle, McCauley is my Beagle (Jody Beth Rosen), Wednesday, 5 January 2005 00:51 (twenty-one years ago)

i love new jersey. it lets me take pictures like this:

ihttp://plainparade.org/thesis/NJ-01.jpg

maria tessa sciarrino (theoreticalgirl), Wednesday, 5 January 2005 01:29 (twenty-one years ago)

every yo la tengo album cover ever to thread!

Turkey versus Eagle, McCauley is my Beagle (Jody Beth Rosen), Wednesday, 5 January 2005 01:31 (twenty-one years ago)

http://www.buttondepot.net/bos/nj.JPG

Really, I do.

RS LaRue (rockist_scientist), Wednesday, 5 January 2005 01:32 (twenty-one years ago)

Vaguely on topic:...

"Born to Run" by Bruce Springsteen -- who really enjoys this overproduced crappy glop?

Alex in NYC (vassifer), Wednesday, 5 January 2005 01:34 (twenty-one years ago)

Is there a New Jersey accent or dialect?

yeah the sopranos accent exists, but what i hear most of is a slightly jewishy northeasty variant on a standard american accent -- the way jon stewart speaks is exactly like most of my jersey friends speak.

Turkey versus Eagle, McCauley is my Beagle (Jody Beth Rosen), Wednesday, 5 January 2005 01:34 (twenty-one years ago)

the philly people can expound upon what the philly-suburban accent is like. i think it sounds kinda gay.

Turkey versus Eagle, McCauley is my Beagle (Jody Beth Rosen), Wednesday, 5 January 2005 01:37 (twenty-one years ago)

Years and years of memories of going to the beach. I know Jersey beaches aren't the best, but I don't know better first hand, really, and it was extremely exciting that the ocean would make it's way under the boardwalk at night. That is my idea of what a boardwalk is supposed to be.

More recently: it turns out to have surprisingly great places to go salsa dancing.

A lot of what Dan says is on the money.

I would seriously consider moving there.

x-post: Is there a Philly-Suburban accent? I wonder if I have it. I've moved around enough that I have a mixed accent, though it's clearly Philadelphia-centric, without necessarily being Philadelphian. I guess. I slip in and out of a real Philadelphia accent though.

RS LaRue (rockist_scientist), Wednesday, 5 January 2005 01:38 (twenty-one years ago)

I know Jersey beaches aren't the best

i think they're pretty nice! but then i'm used to brooklyn beaches.

Turkey versus Eagle, McCauley is my Beagle (Jody Beth Rosen), Wednesday, 5 January 2005 01:44 (twenty-one years ago)

philly accent:
http://www.citypaper.net/articles/081497/article008.shtml

Turkey versus Eagle, McCauley is my Beagle (Jody Beth Rosen), Wednesday, 5 January 2005 01:47 (twenty-one years ago)

As a curious furriner, what is it about Newark that is so off? I looked at various pics and it just looks like a dirty subrban sprawl offshoot of NYC, which to my Aussie eyes looks very american and kinda cool in a morbid way.

Trayce (trayce), Wednesday, 5 January 2005 01:56 (twenty-one years ago)

it's just grey and dingy and ghetto, but its bark is worse than its bite.

Turkey versus Eagle, McCauley is my Beagle (Jody Beth Rosen), Wednesday, 5 January 2005 01:58 (twenty-one years ago)

I kinda like that asthetic, myself. I suppose because I grew up with the precise opposite (Canberra being a v young, v parklike, green, planned, tidy city).

Trayce (trayce), Wednesday, 5 January 2005 01:59 (twenty-one years ago)

since i've invaded the oz thread, it's only right that trayce invade this one. welcome!

princeton and trenton are roughly the dividing lines betwixt north and south jersey, for what it's worth. there are more than a few iggles fans in and around princeton.

newark's bark may be worse than its bite, but its bite can still be pretty bad. though REAL jerseyans know that newark ain't shit compared to camden -- camden is HARDCORE bad-ass.

Eisbär (llamasfur), Wednesday, 5 January 2005 06:10 (twenty-one years ago)

Sez the NY Times, anyway.

Hurting (Hurting), Wednesday, 5 January 2005 07:09 (twenty-one years ago)

east orange and irvington are 2 north jersey shitholes that are worse than newark.

Eisbär (llamasfur), Wednesday, 5 January 2005 07:17 (twenty-one years ago)

What Trenton Makes...

...The World Takes!

Ken L (Ken L), Wednesday, 5 January 2005 07:19 (twenty-one years ago)

Yeah, I briefly worked in Orange and East Orange. The words "the teen streets" still make me shudder.

Hurting (Hurting), Wednesday, 5 January 2005 07:22 (twenty-one years ago)

Sez the NY Times, anyway.

the times DOES have this odd fascination with the place, don't they? at least once a year, they have some piece (in the Metro section) about what a hopeless hellhole it is. and it IS bad.

Eisbär (llamasfur), Wednesday, 5 January 2005 07:37 (twenty-one years ago)

Before deciding to attend Rutgers, I went to an open house. The representatives from Camden showed up 30 minutes late with tons of make-up and their shirts tied above their bellies. They honestly looked like prostitutes.

Hurting (Hurting), Wednesday, 5 January 2005 08:10 (twenty-one years ago)

regarding the Times,

Maybe the desolation fills a craving for authenticity that New Yorkers have now that they've gentrified everything from the sewers up.

Hurting (Hurting), Wednesday, 5 January 2005 08:11 (twenty-one years ago)

eight months pass...
Well - I just wanted to say it's nice to see others fighting for NJ. A lot of what people have said here I feel too. I've been to 40 states and no where else in the world would I rather be than in NJ. I love NJ so much that I even started a website - http://www.AboutNewJersey.com

Jersey Devil, Tuesday, 13 September 2005 07:48 (twenty years ago)

one month passes...
What is up with Morristown being full of Republican MILFs? Seriously, MILFs in SUVs with W bumper stickers, MILFs with jailbait catholic school daughters, MILFs reasing "100 People Who Are Destroying America"

Sorry.

Hurting (Hurting), Thursday, 13 October 2005 00:44 (twenty years ago)

defend the indefensible: morristown

glasgow coma score (Jody Beth Rosen), Thursday, 13 October 2005 04:47 (twenty years ago)

morristown used to have a hardcore ghetto. so it's not ALL soccer MILFs!

Eisbär (llamasfur), Thursday, 13 October 2005 05:00 (twenty years ago)

After work Mondays I like to get espresso at the ice cream place and perv on all the hot moms. Sometimes I get vibes from some of them.

Hurting (Hurting), Thursday, 13 October 2005 05:05 (twenty years ago)

That place has awesome food and really good coffee, btw (I think it's called Main Street Creamery or something like that)

Hurting (Hurting), Thursday, 13 October 2005 05:07 (twenty years ago)

MILFistown
MILFburg

Eisbär (llamasfur), Thursday, 13 October 2005 05:10 (twenty years ago)

Well, why would we have to go to New Jersey? ewww. Even the sales tax ain't worth it.
-- Jonothong Williamsmang (ironin...), October 18th, 2005. (later)

FIGHT

Eisbär (llamasfur), Tuesday, 18 October 2005 16:29 (twenty years ago)

Well, MILFs, for one thing.

Hurting (Hurting), Tuesday, 18 October 2005 16:30 (twenty years ago)

Well, uh if i wanna go shopping in NJ what do I do.

1) PATH Train
2) ?????
3) Profit?

Jonothong Williamsmang (ex machina), Tuesday, 18 October 2005 16:32 (twenty years ago)

LBI and the Princeton Record Exchange

rasheed wallace (rasheed wallace), Tuesday, 18 October 2005 16:32 (twenty years ago)

Ikea dude!

Hurting (Hurting), Tuesday, 18 October 2005 16:33 (twenty years ago)

One reason New Yorkers do occasionally come to our fine state is to see shows at Maxwell's.

Hurting (Hurting), Tuesday, 18 October 2005 16:34 (twenty years ago)

the last time i went to the record exchange (6 years ago), it seemed to be a shadow of its former self. then again, that was 6 years ago and i've been spoiled by amazon.com and cdnow.com. it's still worth a trip!

Eisbär (llamasfur), Tuesday, 18 October 2005 16:39 (twenty years ago)

Yeah, the internet will spoil you for any record stores.

Dude, we should do a an ILX PREX trip!

Hurting (Hurting), Tuesday, 18 October 2005 16:40 (twenty years ago)

NOISE FACT #1: The last 4 digits of Jon's phone number spell "IKEA".

Ok, like I don't even know where to take the PATH

Jonothong Williamsmang (ex machina), Tuesday, 18 October 2005 16:40 (twenty years ago)

Actually I venture to teh PREX this weekend, maybe stop at Hoagie Haven, too.

rasheed wallace (rasheed wallace), Tuesday, 18 October 2005 16:43 (twenty years ago)

Hmmm, I would be game to go to PREX to spend my first paycheck.

Jonothong Williamsmang (ex machina), Tuesday, 18 October 2005 16:44 (twenty years ago)

prex is awesome for cheap vinyl.

astor riviera (Jody Beth Rosen), Tuesday, 18 October 2005 16:46 (twenty years ago)

I met a girl at the weekend who was from New Jersey and put up a very stout defence of her home state!

Dadaismus (Dada), Tuesday, 18 October 2005 16:47 (twenty years ago)

as well she should!

astor riviera (Jody Beth Rosen), Tuesday, 18 October 2005 16:47 (twenty years ago)

There's not much point in going to Ikea without a car anyway, and I think the only way to get their from NYC otherwise is by bus (it's by Elizabeth).

But if you want to come to the next Jersey City FAP (if there ever is one), the PATH is really easy to get to. If you live along the L, you just take it to 14th and 6th Ave, and the PATH is right there in the station. Takes like 10 minutes to get here from there.

JC is ok - it looks kind of like parts of Brooklyn. The area I live in (which is the "desirable" area now) is a mix of Cuban restaurants, Pakistani groceries, and gentry-fried cafes and clothing boutiques.

There's no music venue or bookstore or record shop to speak of, which sucks. Hoboken (also on the PATH) is right next door and has Tunes for records (which is somewhat meh) and Maxwell's, and there's a couple of book shops. It's already pretty much maxed out as far as redevelopment goes. I kind of hope Jersey City will be able to maintain more of a balance, if that's possible.

Hurting (Hurting), Tuesday, 18 October 2005 16:49 (twenty years ago)

Well she had me convinced anyway! (xxpost)

Dadaismus (Dada), Tuesday, 18 October 2005 16:49 (twenty years ago)

There's also the whole waterfront area, which is what you can see from NY. It's kind of like nu-Alexandria across from DC - tons of new high rise buildings, totally clean like a non-lived-in city, lots of chain and brewpub-style restaurants.

Hurting (Hurting), Tuesday, 18 October 2005 16:50 (twenty years ago)

my mom was born in new jersey!

:(

mookieproof (mookieproof), Tuesday, 18 October 2005 16:51 (twenty years ago)

i've found some great stuff at tunes -- a little overpriced but nothing that broke me too much.

there's a shuttle that goes to ikea from the port authority, no?

astor riviera (Jody Beth Rosen), Tuesday, 18 October 2005 16:51 (twenty years ago)

where is the love for weehawken?

astor riviera (Jody Beth Rosen), Tuesday, 18 October 2005 16:52 (twenty years ago)

I work off of the L at 6th ave.

Jonothong Williamsmang (ex machina), Tuesday, 18 October 2005 16:52 (twenty years ago)

xpost Yeah, that sounds right. I've never had reason to take it (living on the other side with a car and all), but I think my aunt has.

Hurting (Hurting), Tuesday, 18 October 2005 16:53 (twenty years ago)

Weehawken? That's like a foreign country to me!

Hurting (Hurting), Tuesday, 18 October 2005 16:53 (twenty years ago)

I like Morristown.

tokyo nursery school: afternoon session (rosemary), Tuesday, 18 October 2005 16:53 (twenty years ago)

I like Morristown and also Moorestown.

rasheed wallace (rasheed wallace), Tuesday, 18 October 2005 16:54 (twenty years ago)

I'm telling you the Creamery is fantastic. Great food. They serve Illy espresso too.

Hurting (Hurting), Tuesday, 18 October 2005 16:54 (twenty years ago)

this is your view if you live in weehawken:

http://static.flickr.com/24/52316727_2656c5c864.jpg?v=0

astor riviera (Jody Beth Rosen), Tuesday, 18 October 2005 16:55 (twenty years ago)

I like Tunes! Their selection of new CDs is pretty good, I've found lots of good used vinyl there, and I've found some really great steals in their used CD bin: The Cars, Keren Ann, The Bad Plus, Missy Elliott, etc. for $1-2.

xposts

o. nate (onate), Tuesday, 18 October 2005 16:55 (twenty years ago)

Tunes lets you listen to whatever you want, which is awesome.

Hurting (Hurting), Tuesday, 18 October 2005 16:56 (twenty years ago)

There used to be one in New Brunswick where I liked the selection a little better. But that closed down.

Hurting (Hurting), Tuesday, 18 October 2005 16:57 (twenty years ago)

anyone remember crazy rhythms in montclair?

astor riviera (Jody Beth Rosen), Tuesday, 18 October 2005 16:58 (twenty years ago)

Also the used vinyl in Tunes tends to be more reasonably priced than at Academy and other NYC places. So if something good comes in, you're more likely to be able to buy it at a reasonable price.

o. nate (onate), Tuesday, 18 October 2005 17:03 (twenty years ago)

i'd definitely be up for a PREX FAP -- though not this weekend (gotsta work)!

Eisbär (llamasfur), Tuesday, 18 October 2005 17:03 (twenty years ago)

There used to be one in New Brunswick where I liked the selection a little better. But that closed down.

if it's the one that i'm thinking of, it used to be owned by one of the dudes in the smithereens.

Eisbär (llamasfur), Tuesday, 18 October 2005 17:04 (twenty years ago)

weehawken can still be surprisingly affordable (real estate-wise). and it offers breathtakingly nice views of the NYC skyline. but it's also a bit inconvenient as far as public transportation goes.

Eisbär (llamasfur), Tuesday, 18 October 2005 17:05 (twenty years ago)

i could personally do a princeton tour -- the university campus is lovely. the battlefield is also really nice and peaceful (but we'd need cars to get there -- it's a mile or so from nassau street).

Eisbär (llamasfur), Tuesday, 18 October 2005 17:06 (twenty years ago)

Oh I remember Crazy Rhythms in Montclair.

http://igetrvng.com/shop_mx4.html

I remember R. Stevie Moore and his hat. I remember the Montclair Book Center, still the best book store I've ever been to, shame they got rid of the comic book dept though.

My sister lives in Jersey City and sells CDs to Tunes.

My first job was in Morristown, at Trukmann's Reprographics or something.

Dan Selzer (Dan Selzer), Tuesday, 18 October 2005 17:08 (twenty years ago)

count me in on the prex fap... the weekend of nov 5-6 would be perfect.

astor riviera (Jody Beth Rosen), Tuesday, 18 October 2005 17:09 (twenty years ago)

Used LPs I've bought recently at Tunes:

The Byrds - Notorious Byrd Brothers
Beach Boys - Surf's Up
Orchestral Maneovres in the Dark - s/t (US Version)
Muzsikas - Blues for Transylvania
Pet Shop Boys - Actually
Kraftwerk - Radio-Activity

o. nate (onate), Tuesday, 18 October 2005 17:09 (twenty years ago)

Oh I remember Crazy Rhythms in Montclair.

i meant besides you, dan. ;-)

astor riviera (Jody Beth Rosen), Tuesday, 18 October 2005 17:10 (twenty years ago)

another true, fun princeton fact -- the restaurant that was owned by the menendez bros. for a while is across the street from the record exchange!

Eisbär (llamasfur), Tuesday, 18 October 2005 17:11 (twenty years ago)

Princeton is soooo far :(

Jonothong Williamsmang (ex machina), Tuesday, 18 October 2005 17:12 (twenty years ago)

the pancake place in princeton (p.j.'s?) is teh yumxor.

astor riviera (Jody Beth Rosen), Tuesday, 18 October 2005 17:13 (twenty years ago)

that weekend's the record fair!

tokyo nursery school: afternoon session (rosemary), Tuesday, 18 October 2005 17:13 (twenty years ago)

whoops, i forgot! weekend after that?

astor riviera (Jody Beth Rosen), Tuesday, 18 October 2005 17:14 (twenty years ago)

Princeton is pretty great, and worth the trip, even on the train. Like Eisbar said -- the school and the battlefield are beautiful, and Nassau St. is pretty fun. In addition to PREX I also really like Micawber Books.

rasheed wallace (rasheed wallace), Tuesday, 18 October 2005 17:19 (twenty years ago)

P.J.'s rocks. added bonus: carvings from P.U. alumni and assorted patrons going back to the 70s on the tables/wooden counter.

micawber's also rocks -- esp. since they did the extension. back in the day, the used section was the ENTIRE store.

princeton isn't hard to get to at ALL -- just take NJ transit from penn station to princeton junction, then take the "dinky train" from there into town. two hours at most (if that) from penn station.

Eisbär (llamasfur), Tuesday, 18 October 2005 17:21 (twenty years ago)

Yeah, not a bad ride at all, especially if you get an express train.

rasheed wallace (rasheed wallace), Tuesday, 18 October 2005 17:24 (twenty years ago)

the ride to princeton junction is really nice. i just did that in may.

astor riviera (Jody Beth Rosen), Tuesday, 18 October 2005 17:25 (twenty years ago)

There's this pretty kickass record store in like Pompton Plains. The guy who runs it just does it as a hobby, so it's only open when he doesn't have to be at his day job. Also, it's kind of hard to find (even though it seemed to be on kind of a main street). Good place, though.

willpie (willpie), Tuesday, 18 October 2005 18:00 (twenty years ago)

I think the place your talking about is called "Music Music Music"--it's on Rt 23. The owner is a super nice guy. He has a ton of vinyl but a lot of it is in bad shape and it's kinda hard to browse since it's all on tall shelves. Worth a look if you're in the area, though.

Keith C (lync0), Tuesday, 18 October 2005 19:40 (twenty years ago)

I'd be happy to take a carload of people down from here to Princeton as well - though if you're coming from NYC it's probably easier to take the train.

Yeah, I heart Macawber's as well. I don't understand the love for PJ's, but I only went there once. Maybe I just got a bad batch or something.

I also think Small World Coffee is some of the best coffee I've had.

It'd also be fun to picnic at Grounds for Sculpture if it weren't getting colder now (and also I don't know if they're still open this late in the year).

Hurting (Hurting), Wednesday, 19 October 2005 02:25 (twenty years ago)

BTW, does anyone ever go to Conduit in Trenton? I played there once like a long while ago when they first reopened it, but there was no one there, in spite of the fact that the headliner was Clem Snide. Seemed like it was hard to get people to come to that area or something.

Hurting (Hurting), Wednesday, 19 October 2005 02:26 (twenty years ago)

What about Sound Exchange on Rt. 23? I used to go there and stare at Pop Will Eat Itself weird shaped vinyl and Can CDs, all way expensive. And Twonky Video/Neet Stuff in Somerville, that's a weird place. Amazing video collection, some wacky stuff but you pick up a broken toy off the ground and they're like "that's 30 dollars".

and Cafe Soundz! How many times to I have to mention it? That's how I met Morgan Geist and James Plotkin. And it's still there.

Dan Selzer (Dan Selzer), Wednesday, 19 October 2005 02:35 (twenty years ago)

When I first came to New Brunswick we had Cheap Thrills - pretty good store, in fact. But New Brunswick is the kiss of death for record stores. Even the Sam Goody closed.

Hurting (Hurting), Wednesday, 19 October 2005 02:42 (twenty years ago)

morristown used to have a hardcore ghetto. so it's not ALL soccer MILFs!

The Hollow, right near Headquaters mall.

I'm flying home to NJ for 2 days tomorrow; I can't wait to stop & get some real bagels for breakfast, and then drive to the next strip mall for some Dunkin Donuts coffee. And take my 2.5 year old neice to a diner for lunch! She already understands that you only ever order breakfast food and the toast has to arrive soaked in butter and it's important to sit around & talk for a few hours. She's a big chatterbox, so she's down with it. I think we're probably going to the Chester diner.

lyra (lyra), Wednesday, 19 October 2005 03:09 (twenty years ago)

disco fries!

Dan Selzer (Dan Selzer), Wednesday, 19 October 2005 06:29 (twenty years ago)

aww yeah.

(disco fries was my name on friendster!)

astor riviera (Jody Beth Rosen), Wednesday, 19 October 2005 10:40 (twenty years ago)

What about Sound Exchange on Rt. 23?

I never really liked this place, although it was the go-to "indie" store in the area. Did you ever go to The Flip Side in Pompton Lakes, Dan? That was my source for thrash and hardcore cassettes in the late 80's.

Best NJ record store not yet mentioned on this thread is Vintage Vinyl on Rt. 1 near Edison. Used to have a ton of cheap vinyl in the back, these days the stock is not as impressive but it's still a good store.

Did anyone ever go to the converted diner in New Brunswick (on French St) that was a record store? It was only vinyl--the place was a mess and the owner was pretty eccentric. Good finds in there, though. I have no idea if it's there anymore, I doubt it.

Keith C (lync0), Wednesday, 19 October 2005 12:03 (twenty years ago)

I grew up in Morristown and I'm glad I did. High School was a real meltingpot. After I left and got to know kids who grew up in New England and the midwest they seemed really under-exposed to me.

steve ketchup, Wednesday, 19 October 2005 14:18 (twenty years ago)

xpost Whoa, I went to that diner/record store once. It was a very very surreal experience - in fact I'd almost forgotten about it. I think the place was only open like two hours a day and/or by appointment. He had some strange militia-type paraphernalia on his door, and he was a very odd guy. Nothing was in any kind of order, just piles and shelves of records. I almost bought a record called "Black Dick for President" from him, just because it was called "Black Dick for President"

I never liked Vintage Vinyl all that much, mostly just because I got a weird vibe from the people there like I wasn't buying the "right" kind of music. There was also Curmudgeon off Route 27, which is now gone as well.

Hurting (Hurting), Wednesday, 19 October 2005 14:55 (twenty years ago)

Ahh, Curmudgeon... I got some great Throbbing Gristle LPs there for like 2 bucks each.

Last christmas when I was back in Jersey visiting family, I got to introduce my wife and my parents to disco fries -- an overwhelming success!

ianinportland (ianinportland), Wednesday, 19 October 2005 15:22 (twenty years ago)

I can't believe all the Morristown people on this thread. Craziness.

lyra (lyra), Wednesday, 19 October 2005 15:34 (twenty years ago)

The first time I went to Vintage Vinyl it was amazing, it looked like a Sam Goody for metal-heads but I picked up the Xpressway Vision video and some Sun City Girls records. I've gone back on trips down to Philly to DJ and found it mostly only good for the occasional good classic rock or freestyle dollar record.

Never went to Flipside.

Nobody's mentioned Planet X yet, a techno store in New Brunswick during the early days of techno stores.

Dan Selzer (Dan Selzer), Wednesday, 19 October 2005 15:41 (twenty years ago)

Wait, there was a techno record store on Easton Ave in New Brunswick, but I don't remember what it was called. It was really small and had almost no records, thereby convincing my friends and I that it was a drug front.

Hurting (Hurting), Wednesday, 19 October 2005 15:43 (twenty years ago)

One time I went to the diner/record store the guy was playing a cassette tape of some radio call-in show. But he kept rewinding it every 5-10 seconds or so and repeating the same part. It was freaky as hell. The stuck-up clerks at other stores have nothing on that guy, nothing.

Keith C (lync0), Wednesday, 19 October 2005 16:46 (twenty years ago)

I'm going ice skating tomorrow or Saturday:
http://parks.morris.nj.us/parks/mennenmain.htm

It's freezing out here tonight! I think it's in the lower 40s outside the house right now.

lyra (lyra), Thursday, 20 October 2005 22:54 (twenty years ago)

one month passes...
if anyone REALLY wants to do a trip-to-princeton FAP (or something), please post here!

Eisbär (llamasfur), Monday, 28 November 2005 02:55 (twenty years ago)

eisy eis: i'd probably be down depending on timing

also, i'm not going to bother with this thread bt fuck anyone who didn't stick up for the home of both nervous and redman

nervous (cochere), Monday, 28 November 2005 03:03 (twenty years ago)

with reading the old posts on this thread, obviously. and eis by timing i meant that it'd have to be at least past the first week/week and a half of december

nervous (cochere), Monday, 28 November 2005 03:03 (twenty years ago)

if anyone REALLY wants to do a trip-to-princeton FAP (or something), please post here!

i'm down for that, but it depends when. late december is better for me too.

athol fugard (Jody Beth Rosen), Monday, 28 November 2005 03:13 (twenty years ago)

also, yeah, wd be better for me if the P stood for PREX or the like instead of pub bc of age issues. or if there were any good shows in the area, etc

nervous (cochere), Monday, 28 November 2005 03:17 (twenty years ago)

late december/early january would be ideal for me. and yes, we can avoid pubbing -- it isn't like princeton is a big party town!

Eisbär (llamasfur), Monday, 28 November 2005 03:22 (twenty years ago)

best state song ever?

tokyo nursery school: afternoon session (rosemary), Monday, 28 November 2005 04:23 (twenty years ago)

My gf heard that song for the first time recently and came up with a pretty good idea for the new license plate slogan: "New Jersey: Brag About It!"

Abbadabba Berman (Hurting), Monday, 28 November 2005 04:37 (twenty years ago)

i've always been fond of john gorka's jersey anthem:

http://s46.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=06TDVYG96WUR2XPFLIG7Z8F7M

athol fugard (Jody Beth Rosen), Monday, 28 November 2005 04:49 (twenty years ago)

Best thing I've ever read about the song "Born to Run," i.e. "Springsteen is a liar":

http://nypress.com/18/47/listings/music.cfm


(I too was a NJ teen Bruce hater in the author's era)

Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Monday, 28 November 2005 14:43 (twenty years ago)

xp to JBR, eis: we'll start a nj fap thread soon enough, at least as soon as i figure out when i'll be back in the area

nervous (cochere), Monday, 28 November 2005 21:58 (twenty years ago)

i'd like to go to princeton sometime in january, i'd prolly have enough money to make it worth the trip to the record exchange then.

hstencil (hstencil), Monday, 28 November 2005 22:15 (twenty years ago)

shit stence. i'm back at school in january
sometime between dec 10 and the end of the month is looking to be best for me

nervous (cochere), Tuesday, 29 November 2005 00:01 (twenty years ago)

unsurprising from NY Press, but that article is extraordinarily dumb

gabbneb (gabbneb), Tuesday, 29 November 2005 00:07 (twenty years ago)

xpost I'm not a big fan of Springsteen either, but that criticism seems a bit of a stretch - it doesn't really matter if boardwalk jobs were plentiful on the Jersey Shore in the late 70s. The song is about that teenage urge to feel "free" (and also about seduction), and people have that no matter where they grow up.

Abbadabba Berman (Hurting), Tuesday, 29 November 2005 00:17 (twenty years ago)

What gabbneb said.

Anyway, if Springsteen is guilty of some kind of false populism, the populace sure doesn't seem to see through it.

Abbadabba Berman (Hurting), Tuesday, 29 November 2005 00:18 (twenty years ago)

a) only confessional songwriters are artists
b) I have already recognized that "a" may not be true, but surely you won't press me on it
c) Bruce Springsteen in 1975 was not a confessional songwriter
ergo, d) Bruce Springsteen is not an artist
e) while it has occurred to me that there may be a connection between songwriting and literature, it has not occurred to me that the narrator of a song may be unreliable
f) anyway, hold on, I need to change the subject on some anti-elitist GOP-talking-point subtext shit

gabbneb (gabbneb), Tuesday, 29 November 2005 00:25 (twenty years ago)

Yeah, some of those were also points I was going to raise. I also don't know for a fact that none of Bruce Springsteen's material is confessional, and since this guy doesn't even like Springsteen, I doubt he knows that either.

And also, fuck the NYPress.

Abbadabba Berman (Hurting), Tuesday, 29 November 2005 00:28 (twenty years ago)

the most obvious flaw of the article is clearly the fact that it seems like he's mostly talking about summer. I mean, even the wealthiest tourist beach communities are depressing as fuck 10 months out of the year.

Dan Selzer (Dan Selzer), Tuesday, 29 November 2005 01:09 (twenty years ago)

hey folks, if you do a princeton/prex FAP, ill gladly give you a tour of WPRB.

maria tessa sciarrino (theoreticalgirl), Tuesday, 29 November 2005 01:22 (twenty years ago)

ahh fuck, we should just rent a van/large car for a day and drive all over the state.

maria tessa sciarrino (theoreticalgirl), Tuesday, 29 November 2005 01:23 (twenty years ago)

and yes, we can avoid pubbing -- it isn't like princeton is a big party town!

no trip to princeton is complete without a visit to the annex.

also, RIP PIZZA COLORE.

maria tessa sciarrino (theoreticalgirl), Tuesday, 29 November 2005 01:35 (twenty years ago)

If the weather were warmer, I'd say we should picnic at Grounds for Sculpture.

Abbadabba Berman (Hurting), Tuesday, 29 November 2005 01:48 (twenty years ago)

i wish terrace club were still throwing awesome shows/parties.

maria tessa sciarrino (theoreticalgirl), Tuesday, 29 November 2005 18:36 (twenty years ago)

best state song ever?

last wednesday on WFMU they played every single variation of this song (as performed by the chordblenders, natch). eventually they just stopped after the third line where they mention the city, figuring everyone got the idea after about 20 listens of the same song. it was glorious.

i miss princeton. sandwiches at hoagie haven are U+K if jerseyFAP '05 ('06?) gets off the ground.

joseph (joseph), Wednesday, 30 November 2005 07:06 (twenty years ago)

lets do this SOON.

maria tessa sciarrino (theoreticalgirl), Wednesday, 30 November 2005 07:21 (twenty years ago)

Where is the good mexican food in jerz, people?

Forksclovetofu (Forksclovetofu), Wednesday, 30 November 2005 07:35 (twenty years ago)

http://www.njguido.com/

bingo (Chris V), Wednesday, 30 November 2005 11:36 (twenty years ago)

FAJIC (fancy a joey's in clifton?)

joseph (joseph), Wednesday, 30 November 2005 14:21 (twenty years ago)

Where is the good mexican food in jerz, people?

-- Forksclovetofu (forksclovetof...), November 30th, 2005.

El Oaxaqueno in New Brunswick is pretty good if you're looking for something "authentic". They make a mean mole sauce, and there are lots of items in Spanish only on their menu that I'm not sure what they are (one of them is grasshopper tacos).

Abbadabba Berman (Hurting), Wednesday, 30 November 2005 14:40 (twenty years ago)

i second el oaxaqueno. how about a new brunswick FAP? then we could totally hang out at the menlo park mall, check out the grave in the loews theatre parking lot and other zany central jersey stuff.

i kid.

maria tessa sciarrino (theoreticalgirl), Wednesday, 30 November 2005 15:57 (twenty years ago)

yay new brunswick! i've been wanting to go poke my nose around the rutgers campus.

like a circle in a spiral, like a wheel within a wheel (Jody Beth Rosen), Wednesday, 30 November 2005 15:58 (twenty years ago)

last time i really hung out in new brunswick, i was a teenager, so my knowledge is limited.

maria tessa sciarrino (theoreticalgirl), Wednesday, 30 November 2005 16:15 (twenty years ago)

if Springsteen is guilty of some kind of false populism, the populace sure doesn't seem to see through it.

As usual; not dissimilar from why NJ went big for Reagan in '84 with Born in the USA blaring out of every car.

And where IS Bruce's put-on accent from? Nebraska?

Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 30 November 2005 16:27 (twenty years ago)

last time i really hung out in new brunswick, i got bitched out by a drug dealer for taking pictures of my house as i prepared to move out. he thought i was with the police. i was 11

so basically i'm totally down to go

nervous (cochere), Wednesday, 30 November 2005 16:29 (twenty years ago)

Ah, New Brunswick. Seven years of my life you took.

It just dawned on me that the "defend the indefensible: new jersey" thread has become the default thread for New Jersey, and how fitting that is.

Abbadabba Berman (Hurting), Tuesday, 6 December 2005 02:20 (twenty years ago)

As usual; not dissimilar from why NJ went big for Reagan in '84 with Born in the USA blaring out of every car.

yeah, it's Bruce's fault that Reagan carried 49 states (including Massachusetts), and that he carried Jersey by nearly the exact same percentage he carried Connecticut, Delaware, Ohio and Maine. it had nothing to do with the fact that Reagan came from the Depression generation and sold a populist Republicanism and militaristic cold war.

it's also Springsteen's fault that NJ voted for Reagan in '80, Bush in '88, Ford in '76, and Nixon twice. it was your hated Billy the C who turned it blue.

gabbneb (gabbneb), Tuesday, 6 December 2005 02:56 (twenty years ago)

BTW, did anyone hear about the Republican congressional snub of the Boss? They actually refused to pass a bill congratulating him on the anniversary of one of his albums, or something along those lines (the sort of bill that gets passed all the time without anyone making a sound). Fancy a Protest?

Abbadabba Berman (Hurting), Tuesday, 6 December 2005 03:09 (twenty years ago)

gabb posts so that i don't have to :-)

morbius, stick to making yer grand pronunciamentos in the film threads.

Eisbär (llamasfur), Tuesday, 6 December 2005 04:43 (twenty years ago)

the train ride b/w princeton and new brunswick is about 1/2 hour-45 minutes. so doing both towns in one day certainly is not unreasonable :-)

Eisbär (llamasfur), Tuesday, 6 December 2005 04:44 (twenty years ago)

YEEEEAYAH!

Abbadabba Berman (Hurting), Tuesday, 6 December 2005 04:45 (twenty years ago)

Train? We New Jerseyans have something called the automobile!

Abbadabba Berman (Hurting), Tuesday, 6 December 2005 04:46 (twenty years ago)

the NYCers and philadelphian FAPpers may not, though.

Eisbär (llamasfur), Tuesday, 6 December 2005 04:49 (twenty years ago)

True.

If we do New Brunswick, it'll be a tough call between Oaxaqueno and Efes (the best cheap Turkish I've ever had)

Abbadabba Berman (Hurting), Tuesday, 6 December 2005 04:51 (twenty years ago)

where is Oaxaqueno, anyway? this must've opened sometime after i graduated -- or it's in one of the "scary" parts of NB (i.e., what passes for scary in NB anyway).

i used to like picken chicken!

Eisbär (llamasfur), Tuesday, 6 December 2005 04:57 (twenty years ago)

sadly the only "cuisine" i really know in NB is grease trucks. it's been almost four years since i was last there.

if this is done towards the end of this year or on a weekend in january, i am very down for ths, btw.

joseph (joseph), Tuesday, 6 December 2005 05:03 (twenty years ago)

Haha, did you go to Picken Chicken or The Original Picken Chicken? (they were within a block of each other -- different owners) One of them later became Carribean Fried Chicken. And lets not forget Kennedy Fried Chicken.

Weirdly, Oaxaqueno originally had two locations as well -- El Oaxaqueno #2 and El Oaxaqueno #5 (don't ask what happend to 1, 3, and 4). One was on French St. and the other right off Suydam. I think only the Suydam one remains.

Abbadabba Berman (Hurting), Tuesday, 6 December 2005 05:03 (twenty years ago)

Aside from the mexican places and Efes, there is somewhat of a dearth of good food in the Brunz. There was briefly a truly fantastic pizza place called NY Pizza but they had the wrong location and hours for a college town and closed within a year or two. Atillio's, a good inexpensive pasta place rumored to be owned by one of the guys on The Sopranos, also closed down within a year or so. As did a really good Asian noodle place on Easton Ave whose name I can't remember. I kinda have a thing for grease trucks chicken kebab though.

Abbadabba Berman (Hurting), Tuesday, 6 December 2005 05:11 (twenty years ago)

kennedy by journal in JC is so fucking good. at least compared to the atrocity i frequent that goes by the name of "hollywood."

Sterling Clover (s_clover), Tuesday, 6 December 2005 05:11 (twenty years ago)

I was NOT blaming Springsteen for any prez election outcomes, rather my native state's uncomprehending voters/Bruce fans. My grand pronouncements ... ain't.

Anyone been bearhunting?

Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 6 December 2005 14:55 (twenty years ago)

:-( :-( :-( :-(

http://graphics8.nytimes.com/images/2005/12/06/nyregion/06bear.large1.jpg

mies van der rohffle (Jody Beth Rosen), Tuesday, 6 December 2005 14:57 (twenty years ago)

no, but i've been crabbing down the shore! (somewhere close to toms river, i don't remember the exact name of the place...seaview?)

joseph (joseph), Tuesday, 6 December 2005 22:32 (twenty years ago)

I'm a just a regular guy from Clifton.

I plan on heading over to New Brunswick to check out the Rutgers campus. Anybody have suggestions of cool things to see in NB?

Darkstone, Friday, 9 December 2005 02:09 (twenty years ago)

Hmm, depends on your idea of "cool" I suppose.

1) The Court Tavern is a great shitty place to see great shitty bands.

2) Basement shows are always fun.

3) Do yourself a favor and eat at Efes on Easton Ave.

4) Do your arteries a disservice and get a grease truck sandwich.

5) There's actually a neat little historic colonial house that I think you can tour on Sundays -- it's on Easton Ave in Bucheluch Park.

*Jazz Douchebag* Berman (Hurting), Friday, 9 December 2005 04:53 (twenty years ago)

eight months pass...
it appears that the pink champagne motel has a new site

http://www.pinkchampagnemotel.net/

-- (688), Monday, 28 August 2006 12:47 (nineteen years ago)

oops, that was meant to go on the jersey shore thread.

anyway: what are the most wonderful towns of nj?

-- (688), Monday, 28 August 2006 12:49 (nineteen years ago)

The further I get from NJ (I'm in Colombia right now) the more I miss it. Well, at least the halcyon days of shopping for comics at the Passaic Book Center/ records at Sound Exchange (most of my purchased vinyl comes from that place. )/ 4 am drunken communal pigouts at the Tick Tock or any other diner on Rt. 46.

Pizza World!
Van Saun Park (as a kid)
Van Saun Park (w/ girlfriend as teenager)
Jobs at the Mall (Garden State/Willowbrook/Paramus Park)

Dan - Cafe Soundz! Whoa. My friend Myke Hideous worked next door at Tu Tone and I'd stop by for a chat then head over to CS. Crazy.

Jay Vee's Return (Manon_69), Monday, 28 August 2006 14:14 (nineteen years ago)

I was at a really wonderful wedding in New Jersey two weekends ago in a town that made me actually consider living in suburbia.

Young Fresh Danny D (Dan Perry), Monday, 28 August 2006 14:24 (nineteen years ago)

what town?

g00blar (gooblar), Monday, 28 August 2006 14:26 (nineteen years ago)

We bounced around several different ones but primarily Ridgewood.

Young Fresh Danny D (Dan Perry), Monday, 28 August 2006 14:28 (nineteen years ago)

Ridgewood's nice. Lots of trees and quiet. My cousin's got a house there and I envy her.

Jay Vee's Return (Manon_69), Monday, 28 August 2006 14:39 (nineteen years ago)

The reception was... The Tides Estate? I think that's what it's called? In someplace similarly named to North Caledon? PHAT.

Young Fresh Danny D (Dan Perry), Monday, 28 August 2006 14:40 (nineteen years ago)

so many interesting-looking mexican restaurants/shops around french st in new brunswick.

lauren (laurenp), Monday, 28 August 2006 14:40 (nineteen years ago)

I used to pretty much eat/shop for groceries exclusively on French when I was at Rutgers. But this was back in the early 90's so it's probably changed a bit since? Haven't been back to NB in about 6 years or so. There was a place on French that made amazing enchiladas con mole Oaxaqueno.

Grease Trucks! Easton Ave. had/has a Mexican place that made great deep fried tacos. Though I wouldn't consider eating one of those nowadays.

Planet X still there? Spike, the owner, was a good guy.

Jay Vee's Return (Manon_69), Monday, 28 August 2006 14:47 (nineteen years ago)

Grease Trucks...two words I haven't heard in some time..

g00blar (gooblar), Monday, 28 August 2006 14:49 (nineteen years ago)

also a ton of south indian restaurants as you come up 27 from princeton. so much stuff, so little time.

lauren (laurenp), Monday, 28 August 2006 14:50 (nineteen years ago)

Actually, my new favorite place is this crazy all-you-can-eat Japanese seafood restaurant on route 10, by the pelican ski shop. It's HUGE!

g00blar (gooblar), Monday, 28 August 2006 14:55 (nineteen years ago)

Ridgewood is like...a fake town, the kind you put under the Christmas tree. I kind of hate it, even though I've shopped at the Williams-Sonoma and the cheesy bead store there and the British imports shop near the train. There's no poverty, no undesirables, no unpleasant sights or cosmetically displeasing facades, and the whole display of prosperity makes me nervous.

PLUS I know that Rwood residents start claiming curb space for the 4th of July parade a WHOLE DAY before the event, and the sight of well fed, well kept, perfectly capable people jockeying to set up their folding chairs a little closer than their neighbors...the poverty of spirit just brings me down.

Laurel (Laurel), Monday, 28 August 2006 15:04 (nineteen years ago)

I thought you said there was no poverty? :)

g00blar (gooblar), Monday, 28 August 2006 15:07 (nineteen years ago)

Head to Paterson for the poverty!

Jay Vee's Return (Manon_69), Monday, 28 August 2006 15:16 (nineteen years ago)

It's not really a town kind of state, is it? It helps to know people. There are better ones I haven't been to, I'm sure, but I'll point out postage-stamp, perhaps historicized Millburn.

gabbneb (gabbneb), Monday, 28 August 2006 15:37 (nineteen years ago)

North Haledon is only about a mile long, isn't it?

Jay Vee's Return (Manon_69), Monday, 28 August 2006 15:39 (nineteen years ago)

I like driving through the whole Pompton Lakes and points north sort of area. The hills are pretty and worn and covered with greyish purple-ish foliage and appear in my mind to always be slightly misty, even along the highways. What are the towns up there like? I think I was born in Pequannock, if that's even the right spelling.

Laurel (Laurel), Monday, 28 August 2006 15:47 (nineteen years ago)

There are about 8 gazillion towns in New Jersey. The problem is no city of note - Hoboken? New Brunswick? Trenton? - NYC and Philly suck the air out of the place. NJ diners / pizza / bagels are key, though.

I grew up in Red Bank/Long Branch, and there's not enough Monmouth County love on this thread - Jack's Music Shop, Brighton Bar, Monster Magnet, Kevin Smith, etc.

I also lived for years in the Pine Barrens area - scary fucking place. One town I lived in had no garbage pickup and no mail delivery.

A funny thing about NJ is that the border of South Jersey is relative to where you live. If you live in Jersey City, anything below Perth Amboy is South Jersey. If you live in Monmouth County, South Jersey is anything below Toms River. If you live in Cape May, anything below the Mullica River is South Jersey.

Edward III (edward iii), Tuesday, 29 August 2006 15:44 (nineteen years ago)

so you make it sound like nobody wants to admit they live in south jersey. Dammit I'm south jersey and proud! From the GOOD side of Rt 206!

zaxxon25 (zaxxon25), Tuesday, 29 August 2006 20:01 (nineteen years ago)

Alright, so for ALL the Rutgers alumni out there, which was YOUR grease truck? I must say, I was a RUHungry loyalist.

Damnit, a grease truck gyro and a Snapple sounds AWESOME. No grease trucks in LA.

Esquire, Bitch. (Big Loud Mountain Ape), Tuesday, 29 August 2006 21:50 (nineteen years ago)

I liked the falafel truck run by the Middle Eastern couple. Amazing. Mint tea and fresh baklava before an exam and falafel / fries after the bars. Life during RU was pretty great.

Jay Vee's Return (Manon_69), Wednesday, 30 August 2006 02:31 (nineteen years ago)

i stayed here for a week in 1974, good times (where is the love for Wildwood?)

http://www.roadsidepeek.com/rpeekeast/moteleast/wildwoodmotel/edenrocwildnj.jpg

timmy tannin (pompous), Wednesday, 30 August 2006 03:01 (nineteen years ago)

Yay Wildwood! Remember the big King Kong ride out on the pier? I was always afraid it would fling riders out into the ocean.

Edward III (edward iii), Wednesday, 30 August 2006 03:18 (nineteen years ago)

i'm sort of recalling that, i remember it was huge. god that boardwalk is endless. i mostly remember this creepy mechanical fortune teller that my sibs were obsessed with.

timmy tannin (pompous), Wednesday, 30 August 2006 03:25 (nineteen years ago)

CRAZY hijinks at Wildwood motels the summer ('87) after HS graduation.
Kids today don't even know...

Jay Vee's Return (Manon_69), Wednesday, 30 August 2006 03:28 (nineteen years ago)

i stayed here for a week in 1974, good times (where is the love for Wildwood?)

chrisquartztelecom and i stayed at the starlux a few new yearses ago:

http://www.jrn.columbia.edu/studentwork/cns/2002-06-10/images/wildwoodweb.jpg

it was the only wildwood hotel that was actually operating in the winter season. eerie, but in a really cool way. the boardwalk was DEAD.

el borracho (Jody Beth Rosen), Wednesday, 30 August 2006 03:30 (nineteen years ago)

GLENN MERCER AND FRIENDS ARE PERFORMING AT MAXWELS WED SEPT. 6TH. MORE INFO SOON!

Dan Selzer (Dan Selzer), Wednesday, 30 August 2006 03:42 (nineteen years ago)

Jeez, Dan!

Jay Vee's Return (Manon_69), Wednesday, 30 August 2006 03:50 (nineteen years ago)

see what happens when i leave the east coast?

el borracho (Jody Beth Rosen), Wednesday, 30 August 2006 03:59 (nineteen years ago)

i've only been to wildwood once, a really long time ago, and the only thing i remember about it was that the beach was practically impenetrable because of the influx of post-rainstorm jellyfish.

this is the second summer running that i haven't made it out to the boardwalk (a term which usually signifies seaside heights, for me - trashcan that it is, i still have a lot of affection for it)

joseph (joseph), Wednesday, 30 August 2006 04:01 (nineteen years ago)

wow, this thread is really stirring up teh memories. anyone remember the amusement park at Lake Hopatcong ? (Jersey Indian names are HI-larious)It closed in 1983, my nyc grade school loved it, probably because it was on its last legs in the 70s and was dirt cheap. it was fun! I haven't thought about this in ages, thanx for allowing me to recover some good memories from an often troubled childhood.

http://www.landingnewjersey.com/bertrand.htm

timmy tannin (pompous), Wednesday, 30 August 2006 05:11 (nineteen years ago)

People who didn't grow up in Jersey don't realize that Todd Solondz's Happiness is a documentary.

Edward III (edward iii), Wednesday, 30 August 2006 12:37 (nineteen years ago)

Came across this on a blog, somewhat accurate:

These guys remind me of fairly typical Jersey white kids: argumentative, profanity-loving, race-conscious, with an almost hyperactive respect for psychotic violence.

Edward III (edward iii), Wednesday, 30 August 2006 16:18 (nineteen years ago)

Everybody knows the Feelies are one of my favorite bands and everyone knows that various people involved in the band still occasionally perform at Maxwell's in Hoboken, because the Feelies were one of the great NJ bands ever, but I always found out too late and never made it. Well not this time.

This wednesday, Glenn Mercer, co-lead guitarist/singer/songwriter of the Feelies will be performing a solo set with Wild Carnation opening up. Wild Carnation features Brenda Sauter, who was the bass player for the Feelies in the 80s as well as Speed the Plough and the beautiful and amazing Trypes. Meanwhile, Glenn is backed by a few of the Feelies original percussionists, Vinny DeNunzio and Dave Weckerman, the later we love for his early 80s DIY single Shore Leave and his Feelies spin-off Yung Wu.

It's hard to sum up their history...the Feelies began in the early/mid 70s in New Jersey with a more angsty, more aggressive Modern Lovers sound. They played CBGB's with all the NYC punk greats and over the years refined and re-defined their sound, so by the time their first record, Crazy Rhythms, was released in 1980, they were able to present something unique. The closest comparison might be the Talking Heads, but the Feelies focused more on rhythm and a Velvet Underground meets Krautrock experimentation. Through the 80s, the Feelies would release 3 more albums, sometimes veering towards a more subtle, folksy, yet no less angsty sound that was even more beautiful. In the meantime, there were countless line-up changes, spin-off bands, pseudonym bands, all quite wonderful.

Here's a clip of the Feelies performing Crazy Rhythms at CBs in the 70s:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ammeQSyUF00

Here they are 10 or so years later on David Letterman:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7vddceSol5k

Here's a great Feelies website:
http://www.geocities.com/thefeeliesweb/

Glenn's myspace page for his new solo project:
http://www.myspace.com/glennmercer

and the Wild Carnation page:
http://www.myspace.com/wildcarnation

You can hear Glenn's great new songs at his myspace page, and hear what has always been true, that through the years, Glenn's songwriting and playing has consistently been wonderful and consistently been his. You can not mistake these songs for anything other then yet more wonderful stuff from one of the guys behind the Feelies.

The line-up that's playing at Maxwell's wedneday played an outdoor festival in Hoboken a few months ago that's all over youtube and along with the new material they played some Feelies classics and some classics the Feelies have been known to cover, so maybe we'll get some oldies wednesday.

Maxwells is the famous club in Hoboken NJ best known for being where The Boss's "Glory Days" video was shot. It's also been the home to many legendary Feelies and Yo La Tengo shows.

http://www.maxwellsnj.com/
1039 Washington Street
Hoboken NJ
201-653-1703

Wed. 9/6
Glenn Mercer
Wild Carnation

8:30 pm
8$

see you there,

Dan

Dan Selzer (Dan Selzer), Monday, 4 September 2006 19:52 (nineteen years ago)

OMG

Laurel (Laurel), Tuesday, 5 September 2006 12:47 (nineteen years ago)

four weeks pass...
edward III is SO right about "where is south jersey?" i mean, i'm originally from around princeton -- which is CENTRAL jersey (or, if we're being generous the northernmost part of south jersey) -- and all the hudson county yobs think that i'm from "south jersey." then again, they also think that morristown and new brunswick are "south jersey" (!)

i have never been to ridgewood, sorry. and i've lived in north jersey for almost 8 years now.

Eisbär (llamasfur), Tuesday, 3 October 2006 07:50 (nineteen years ago)

I liked the falafel truck run by the Middle Eastern couple. Amazing. Mint tea and fresh baklava before an exam and falafel / fries after the bars. Life during RU was pretty great.

-- Jay Vee's Return (milkis...), August 29th, 2006.

Hmm, I wonder if you're talking about the (now defunct) Hungry Eye, which was in fact run by a Greek couple, although you could certainly think they were Middle Eastern. I never had baklava or mint tea there, but they generally tended to make special things not on the regular grease truck menu. They also put up literary quotes all over their truck - I think they had been English teachers. Really nice folks - I was sorry to see them go.

A-ron Hubbard (Hurting), Tuesday, 3 October 2006 12:50 (nineteen years ago)

The Short Hills Mall. Went there yesterday on the way to Yom Kippur "festivities". Is it not the most upscale Mall in the country? It has to be up there.

Dan Selzer (Dan Selzer), Tuesday, 3 October 2006 13:38 (nineteen years ago)

I've never been there, but its riches are legendary.

A-ron Hubbard (Hurting), Tuesday, 3 October 2006 13:52 (nineteen years ago)

Betsy Johnson, Tiffany, Cartier, Dolce + Gabana, Lacoste (I got some new sneakers), Anthropologie, Williams Sonoma, Neiman Marcus/Saks/Macys/Nordstrom, etc.

Dan Selzer (Dan Selzer), Tuesday, 3 October 2006 15:43 (nineteen years ago)

The NJ Transit Bus to the Short Hills Mall stopped in front of my college but I never went! I only went to Livingston Mall.

tokyo nursery school: afternoon session (rosemary), Tuesday, 3 October 2006 19:04 (nineteen years ago)

just got this one,m totally sweet:
http://i2.ebayimg.com/03/i/04/c8/29/3e_2.JPG

autovac (autovac), Tuesday, 3 October 2006 19:21 (nineteen years ago)

hah on you....

Livingston Mall is 1/1000th a mall as Short Hills, but Livingston Mall is like, where I grew up. I stole all my comic books from Heroes World when my friend Mike worked there, I bought my first CDs at Alwick, when they used to sell boomboxes in the front, and spent many hours in the arcade there playing Star Wars. Their arcade wasn't only closer, but many degrees safer then the one in the Willowbrook Mall. Other fond memories include Bambergers (later Macy's) electronics dept, trying out the Apple Lisa there, and later the Macintosh (drawing a brick wall then spraypainting my name on MacPaint 1.0. And of course, using my red-box to make thousands of illegal telephone calls from a payphone while sitting at a bench there. Those were the days.

Dan Selzer (Dan Selzer), Tuesday, 3 October 2006 19:22 (nineteen years ago)

Oy malls. The only one I venture into at all regularly is the Newport Mall right here in Jersey City, and that's mainly because it's the closest movie theater (though JC Penney is great if you need something non-descript like a dress belt, socks, boxers, work shirts, etc.)

A-ron Hubbard (Hurting), Tuesday, 3 October 2006 19:24 (nineteen years ago)

i've only been to short hills once in my life. bridgewater commons, menlo park, and quakerbridge were closer to where i grew up -- i don't think that any of them are quite as upscale as short hills, but they ain't walmart either.

Eisbär (llamasfur), Tuesday, 3 October 2006 19:28 (nineteen years ago)

And of course, using my red-box to make thousands of illegal telephone calls from a payphone while sitting at a bench there.

i'm not from NJ, but i had a red box. ah, the days of Phrack and 2600.

drilled a hole in a quarter in shop class w/ string for use at my local arcade. the weight must have been off because out of 150 machines it only worked on Root Beer Tapper. damn!

chakra khan chakra khan (sanskrit), Tuesday, 3 October 2006 19:44 (nineteen years ago)

I'm gonna hafta post some pics from my recent visit to The Land of Make-Believe in Hope, NJ. America's scariest theme park.

Edward III (edward iii), Tuesday, 3 October 2006 19:59 (nineteen years ago)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/South_Jersey

mts (theoreticalgirl), Tuesday, 3 October 2006 20:05 (nineteen years ago)

Bridgewater Commons is near where my mom moved when I went off to Oberlin. I came home one summer and nobody would hire me. Not Sam Goody. Not the photo place. Ugh. That was a sad summer. I eventually got a job in Morristown. I'd still go to the mall, I bought Stereolab and Soft Machine CDs at that Sam Goody, once from a girl who actually knew who Stereolab was. Big deal in Bridgewater circa 1994. I would also hang out at the Borders accross the street, read magazines and look at graphic design books. Another lonely NJ summer...My sister later worked at that Borders for a bit.

Dan Selzer (Dan Selzer), Tuesday, 3 October 2006 20:12 (nineteen years ago)

I bought my wedding tie at the Nordstrom's in Garden State Plaza. My wife, who is Israeli, lived in Tenafly for a time with her family, and they nicknamed it Garden State Flatza (flatz is Hebrew for fart).

A-ron Hubbard (Hurting), Tuesday, 3 October 2006 20:14 (nineteen years ago)

My best friend got kicked out of Short Hills so maybe that's why we never went.

tokyo nursery school: afternoon session (rosemary), Tuesday, 3 October 2006 20:15 (nineteen years ago)

llamasfur, did you spend any time in Sommerville? The mid-century modern antique shops at 1/1000th the price of NYC, and neat-o-rama/twonkyvision or whatever? What a strange scene that was/is. There's less mid-century stuff, but there's a new store there now, AMAZING collection of periodicals, books, sci-fi stuff, subversive stuff, but of course the vinyl is all way over-priced as it always is at those places.

Dan Selzer (Dan Selzer), Tuesday, 3 October 2006 20:16 (nineteen years ago)

I'm actually not even from NJ, but my job has taken me all over - Belvidere, Newton, Flemington, Toms River, Morristown, Hackensack, Paterson, Sommerville, etc.

A-ron Hubbard (Hurting), Tuesday, 3 October 2006 20:19 (nineteen years ago)

a list of bands who performed on the Uncle Floyd Show, filmed in my hometown of West Orange:

The Ramones
NRBQ
Bon Jovi
Chubby Checker
Cyndi Lauper
Eddie Money
Blue Öyster Cult
David Johansen (also known as Buster Poindexter)
The Misfits
The Smithereens
Jan & Dean
Agnostic Front
Dramarama
Squeeze
Aztec Two-Step
Thor (the singer/bodybuilder)
TV Toy
WKGB
Humans From Earth
The John Earl Walker Band
Blotto
Gary U.S. Bonds
Rachel Sweet
The Rattlers
The Feelies
Shrapnel
The Bongos
U.S.Ape
Fats Deacon & the Dumbwaiters
R. Stevie Moore
The Buttermilk Mountain Revue,
The Plastics (also known as Plastics)
Zoogz Rift
Crash Course In Science
The Stickmen
Z'ev
Rebecca Williams
The Phones (also known as The Responsible Teenagers)
The Brains
Rupert Holmes
Dave Edmunds
Rick Derringer
The Marshall Tucker Band
Peter Tork and Davy Jones of The Monkees (separately)
Steel Pulse
The Lords of the New Church
Johnny Science
The Dead Boys
Pussy Galore
The Payolas
Joan Armatrading
Tiny Tim
The Fiendz
Noble Gas

Dan Selzer (Dan Selzer), Tuesday, 3 October 2006 20:32 (nineteen years ago)

http://62.233.33.227/0/05/99/29/fugees.jpg

gabbneb (gabbneb), Tuesday, 3 October 2006 20:37 (nineteen years ago)

Wikipedia sez

"One-third of all currently operating diners in the world are located in New Jersey, though many of these have been remodeled. New Jersey has approximately 600 operational diners."

gabbneb (gabbneb), Tuesday, 3 October 2006 20:39 (nineteen years ago)

Uncle Floyd could put out one hell of a DVD. Too bad somebody lost the master tapes of The Misfits appearance.

Edward III (edward iii), Tuesday, 3 October 2006 21:28 (nineteen years ago)

one year passes...

New Jersey and Citibank - perfect together?

LOL @ governor who used to run Goldman Sachs.

Eisbaer, Tuesday, 15 January 2008 22:32 (eighteen years ago)

Wow, i just read this whole thread and it totally took me back. I grew up around the corner from Two Tone in Passaic, and I used to walk there as a teenager to get vinyl and Ramones t-shirts. I'd also get rides to Montclair and hang out in Cafe Soundz. In college (Rutgers, natch) I didn't have a favorite grease truck, but they did supply me with coffee. Cheap Thrills, Vintage Vinyl, PREX, Tunes, and taping CDs from WRSU for my music, going to Cafe 52 (long gone...) awesome times.

miryam, Tuesday, 15 January 2008 23:10 (eighteen years ago)

Yeah. I'm w/ you, Miryam. This thread is nostalgia-city for me, too.

Capitaine Jay Vee, Tuesday, 15 January 2008 23:43 (eighteen years ago)

Is Oakland the Jersey of SF?

calstars, Tuesday, 15 January 2008 23:44 (eighteen years ago)

llamasfur, did you spend any time in Sommerville? The mid-century modern antique shops at 1/1000th the price of NYC, and neat-o-rama/twonkyvision or whatever? What a strange scene that was/is. There's less mid-century stuff, but there's a new store there now, AMAZING collection of periodicals, books, sci-fi stuff, subversive stuff, but of course the vinyl is all way over-priced as it always is at those places.

hell yeah -- i grew up a town away from somerville. i left that part of the state for good almost 10 years ago, though (just when the antiques stores and other stuff were just getting off the ground). my mom, though, is big-time into antiques so she tells me all the time about all the stuff she snags there (she still goes to lambertville, which is also Antique Central).

Eisbaer, Tuesday, 15 January 2008 23:45 (eighteen years ago)

Cafe 52

Shit, yeah! That place was great!

I sort of miss Jersey, but sort of don't. I've gotten kind of used to moving every 2 - 5 years, so any feeling of nostalgia really exists for the people who are still there.

And the grease trucks. Damnit, I could go for a total junk food gyro. Or falafel.

B.L.A.M., Tuesday, 15 January 2008 23:48 (eighteen years ago)

im in jersey right now

max, Tuesday, 15 January 2008 23:49 (eighteen years ago)

Me, too. And the weather makes it feel like Zagreb in Winter (blechh).

Capitaine Jay Vee, Tuesday, 15 January 2008 23:54 (eighteen years ago)

im sick as a dog.

max, Wednesday, 16 January 2008 00:01 (eighteen years ago)

I'm still in Jersey... Jersey City now. Sadly, I've been too busy to get out to the record stores. Guess that comes with not being a student anymore. I do love JC tho.

miryam, Wednesday, 16 January 2008 00:12 (eighteen years ago)

Is anything being built/already built on the Cafe 52 site yet? I spent many nights there playing speed chess with regulars and Alexei's weird brothers/cousins or pretending to read. Then I met the woman who became my wife and pretty much stopped going there.

Hurting 2, Wednesday, 16 January 2008 04:08 (eighteen years ago)

wildwood 4ever!

gershy, Wednesday, 16 January 2008 04:35 (eighteen years ago)

I'm reading Brief and Wonderous Life of Oscar Wao right now which has a section about Wildwood (as well as parts about Paterson and Rutgers New Brunswick, among other places)

Hurting 2, Wednesday, 16 January 2008 04:40 (eighteen years ago)

Crazy. In the book that Oscar Wao character goes to my high school (Don Bosco Tech) and university (Rutgers) at the same time I was there! I wonder if I've ever met the author, Junot Diaz. He must've known some guys from my high school or something.

Capitaine Jay Vee, Wednesday, 16 January 2008 04:47 (eighteen years ago)

Díaz was born in Villa Juana, a barrio in Santo Domingo, Dominican Republic.[1] He was the third child in a family of five. Throughout most of his early childhood he lived with his mother and grandparents while his father worked in the United States. Díaz immigrated to Parlin, New Jersey in December, 1974, where he was re-united with his father.

He attended Madison Park Elementary and was a voracious reader, often walking four miles in order to borrow books from his public library. His father, Rafael, abandoned the family in the mid-80s; within months Diaz's oldest brother was diagnosed with leukemia and the family was plunged into a period of severe poverty. In this time Díaz became fascinated with apocalyptic films and books, especially the work of John Christopher, the original Planet of the Apes films and the BBC mini-series Edge of Darkness. Díaz graduated from Cedar Ridge High School in Old Bridge, New Jersey, in 1987.

He attended Kean College in Union, New Jersey for one year before transferring and ultimately completing his BA at Rutgers College in 1992, majoring in English; there he was involved in a creative-writing living-learning residence hall and in various student organizations and was exposed to the authors who would motivate him into becoming a writer: Toni Morrison and Sandra Cisneros. He worked his way through college: delivering pool tables, washing dishes, pumping gas and working at Raritan River Steel.

Hurting 2, Wednesday, 16 January 2008 04:50 (eighteen years ago)

He was at RU when I and folks from my hs were there so...possible...

How's the book, btw?

Capitaine Jay Vee, Wednesday, 16 January 2008 04:52 (eighteen years ago)

I like it so far - about 1/3 of the way through. It's very heavy on "voice" narration which I don't always like, and there are a few too many seemingly-unnecessary allusions, especially to comic books.

Hurting 2, Wednesday, 16 January 2008 04:58 (eighteen years ago)

I gave it to my sis for Xmas since she wanted to read it. Now I expect her to come to me with the comic book questions as I am fairly expert in such nerdery.

Capitaine Jay Vee, Wednesday, 16 January 2008 05:03 (eighteen years ago)

haha, I think the narrator also uses the word "nerdery"

Hurting 2, Wednesday, 16 January 2008 05:08 (eighteen years ago)

dirty jerz

burt_stanton, Wednesday, 16 January 2008 05:20 (eighteen years ago)

where much murder occurz

Hurting 2, Wednesday, 16 January 2008 05:24 (eighteen years ago)

Not that anyone cares but I read this as having a new jersey (i.e. jumper).

Autumn Almanac, Wednesday, 16 January 2008 06:42 (eighteen years ago)

eight months pass...

wow, the Wellmont Theatre in Montclair is now a legit concert venue (Yo La T & Feelies on New Years Eve):

http://www.wellmonttheatre.com/

Dr Morbius, Wednesday, 15 October 2008 13:29 (seventeen years ago)

wow indeed! Montclair?!

Doghouse O RLY (G00blar), Wednesday, 15 October 2008 13:38 (seventeen years ago)

I think I saw one film there ... Moonraker, maybe?

Dr Morbius, Wednesday, 15 October 2008 13:40 (seventeen years ago)

nine months pass...

Still great for corruption absurdities!:

The mayors of Hoboken and Secaucus, a state assemblyman and dozens of others were rounded up early Thursday as the F.B.I. swept across four counties in New Jersey as part of a two-year corruption and money-laundering investigation that ranged from the Jersey Shore to Brooklyn and has even reached into the State House in Trenton.

Agents raided the home of Joseph V. Doria Jr., commissioner of the state Department of Community Affairs, who also is the former mayor of Bayonne, an official confirmed Thursday morning.

Among the roughly 30 people arrested by mid-morning were Hoboken Mayor Peter J. Cammarano III and Secaucus Mayor Dennis Elwell, both Democrats, and Assemblyman Daniel M. Van Pelt, a Republican from Forked River, in Ocean County. Mr. Cammarano, who turned 32 on Wednesday, was elected mayor June 9 and sworn in July 1, after serving as councilman-at-large since 2005.

Also brought to the Newark office of the F.B.I. were the president of the city council in Jersey City, Mariano Vega, and that city’s deputy mayor, Leona Beldini.

Federal prosecutors said the arrests included several rabbis from enclaves of Syrian Jews in Brooklyn and from Deal and Elberon, communities along the Jersey Shore in Ocean County.

The Asbury Park Press reported that the investigation involved the Deal Yeshiva, a religious school which teaches children in the Sephardic Jewish tradition. The United States Attorney’s office in Newark scheduled a noon news conference.

Newark Mayor Cory Booker, who has fought corruption in New Jersey’s largest city, told The Star-Ledger it’s "an unbelievable morning so far."

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 23 July 2009 16:27 (sixteen years ago)

Formal complaint against the Hoboken dude. Among other details:

"...when we get elected, we put our friends on the boards so we know we get the -- don't listen to these morons who say put this environmentalist on, but they're, they're all fucking kooks."

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 23 July 2009 16:30 (sixteen years ago)

As a recent NJ immigrant I must say I'm enjoying the inability to pump my own gas, the bizarre hangups about making turns both left ("jughandles" wtf) and right (I have seen more "no right on red" signs in the last few months than I did in my entire pre-Jersey life), and the local police's willingness to fuck with people with out-of-state plates on the flimsiest pretenses.

And it really chaps my ass that I pay the same for a studio apartment that my ex-roommate (now in FL) pays for a three-bedroom apt with washer, dryer, gym access and garage. GARAGE for fuck's sake!

Telephone thing, Thursday, 23 July 2009 17:56 (sixteen years ago)

this is a weird ass state for sure.

carne asada, Thursday, 23 July 2009 18:12 (sixteen years ago)

Just another day in Jersey government:

http://graphics8.nytimes.com/images/2009/07/23/nyregion/23jersey2-500.jpg

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 23 July 2009 18:29 (sixteen years ago)

Weysan Dun, the special agent in charge of the Federal Bureau of Investigation’s Newark office, said the rabbis arrested — including the grand rabbi of the Syrian Jewish community in the United States, Saul Kassin of Brooklyn — were part of a vast money-laundering conspiracy with tentacles in Israel and Switzerland. Another person, Levy-Izhak Rosenbaum of Brooklyn, was accused of enticing vulnerable people to give up a kidney for $10,000 and then selling the organ for $160,000.

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 23 July 2009 18:29 (sixteen years ago)

The timing of the investigation dovetails with the timing of bank fraud charges against Solomon Dwek, son of the founders of the Deal Yeshiva, a religious school that teaches children in the Sephardic Jewish tradition. Mr. Dwek passed a $25 million bad check at a PNC Bank branch in 2006, according to The Asbury Park Press.

In the investigation that yielded the arrests Thursday, the cooperating witness posed as a real estate developer looking to build in one city after another, repeatedly engaging politicians in illegal conduct through a variety of middlemen, prosecutors said.

In Hoboken, for example, prosecutors charge in their complaint, Mr. Cammarano eagerly agreed in a meeting at a diner earlier this year to help the fake developer with his projects in exchange for cash. Prosecutors said that when the man asked for assurances that his requests would be expedited by the Hoboken City Council, Mr. Cammarano replied, “I promise you,” adding, “You’re going to be, you’re going to be treated like a friend.”

The fake developer responded that he would give a middleman $5,000 in cash for Mr. Cammarano and another $5,000 after his election as mayor.

“O.K.,” Mr. Cammarano replied, according to the complaint. “Beautiful.”

And Mr. Cammarano expressed confidence that he would be elected no matter what, according to the complaint. “Right now, the Italians, the Hispanics, the seniors are locked down,” he is quoted as saying. “Nothing can change that now.”

“I could be, uh, indicted,” he continued, “and I’m still going to win 85 to 95 percent of those populations.”

But just to step back a bit -- $25 million! Yeah I'd be careful with a check like that.

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 23 July 2009 18:30 (sixteen years ago)

"I have seen more "no right on red" signs..."

Just go across the river to NY, it's illegal to do that there. the no pumping of gas thing is stupid, I agree.

Bill Magill, Thursday, 23 July 2009 18:32 (sixteen years ago)

lol when i first moved here i was driving around NYC making right turns on red and getting pulled over by the police. they laughed at my CA plates and gave me a warning. i had no idea.

carne asada, Thursday, 23 July 2009 18:37 (sixteen years ago)

the no-pumping-your-own-gas is a thing of beauty

rip dom passantino 3/5/09 never forget (max), Thursday, 23 July 2009 18:49 (sixteen years ago)

once in college i took a trip out to the beach w/ two friends from oregon and it took us like 20 minutes to fill up the gas tank the first time

rip dom passantino 3/5/09 never forget (max), Thursday, 23 July 2009 18:49 (sixteen years ago)

i have seen nj peeps doing this while in upstate NY.

carne asada, Thursday, 23 July 2009 18:52 (sixteen years ago)

"the no-pumping-your-own-gas is a thing of beauty"

Lots of people agree, i just find it frustrating to wait most of the time. At least gas in NJ is pretty cheap, compared to the rest of the country.

Bill Magill, Thursday, 23 July 2009 19:47 (sixteen years ago)

tentacles

!

http://www.loc.gov/exhibits/churchill/interactive/_html/_items/wc0213.jpg

Tale as old as time, Flavor bold as lime (kingkongvsgodzilla), Thursday, 23 July 2009 19:55 (sixteen years ago)

O_O

Tale as old as time, Flavor bold as lime (kingkongvsgodzilla), Thursday, 23 July 2009 19:55 (sixteen years ago)

Yeah, I know. Can folks just find some other word in situations like that? CC'd: Matt Taibbi

the kid is crying because did sharks died? (Hurting 2), Thursday, 23 July 2009 21:06 (sixteen years ago)

http://www.wpix.com/news/local/wpix-turkey-terrorizing-nj-neighborhood,0,4669745.story

TENAFLY, N.J. (WPIX) - A wild turkey is taking charge and running amok on a block in a northern New Jersey neighborhood, residents say.

The terrorizing turkey is apparently bullying the residents of Hillside Avenue in Tenafly, where neighbors claim that it has chased them down the street, pecked at the tires of a postal service truck, and even has engaged in standoffs with cars attempting to pull out of driveways.

Resident Gary Zamchick said one encounter with the 4-foot tall bird left him fleeing for his life.

"I was attempting to put a garage sale sign up on the spot where the turkey was standing," Zamchick said, recounting his meeting with the turkey to PIX News. "He then started walking toward me and then he started chasing me. I ran as fast as I could back to my house."

Later in the day, Zamchick got in his car, drove to the same spot and successfully posted his garage sale sign.

According to residents, the first time anyone ever heard about the wild turkey in town was when the animal had a run-in with the neighborhood mailman.

A couple of weeks ago, Zamchick said he was approached by the visibly upset mailman who launched into his story, claiming the turkey chased him down Hillside Avenue, and prevented him from delivering mail. The mail carrier told residents, the bird also targeted his postage truck by pecking at its tires.

A number of neighbors have experienced similar encounters with the animal, but none of them ended in injuries.

"We see raccoons, some skunks and sometimes opossums but it is unusual to have such a very large bird on our block," Zamchick said. "I actually love the fact the turkey is on our block, I'm not concerned about it at all."

Since an attack by the turkey has yet to be reported, Bergen County animal control has not gotten involved in the case. However, a spokesperson for the Tenafly Nature Center is urging residents not to feed the animal because it is clearly associating food with humans, which is sparking the ongoing chases in the neighborhood. If residents come face to face with the bird, they are advised to clap, stomp, and yell to scare it away.

Panera - Vulgar Display Of Flour (latebloomer), Thursday, 23 July 2009 21:53 (sixteen years ago)

oh, hudsoncountypaws.

tokyo rosemary, Thursday, 23 July 2009 23:21 (sixteen years ago)

Love me some Jerz.

Marcus Brody Ta-Dow! (Capitaine Jay Vee), Friday, 24 July 2009 01:17 (sixteen years ago)

in case anyone wondered why the sopranos was set in north jersey.

Cammarano is a slimy piece of shit -- i knew him (casually) from law school (though i didn't go to the same law school), he was a douchebag then and he's an (indicted) douchebag now.

some sick fuck with a bow and arrow killing roos and koalas (Eisbaer), Friday, 24 July 2009 01:28 (sixteen years ago)

also, Corzine is pretty much boned right now ... time to get used to saying Governor Christie.

some sick fuck with a bow and arrow killing roos and koalas (Eisbaer), Friday, 24 July 2009 01:30 (sixteen years ago)

Well at least you have time to practice.

Ned Raggett, Friday, 24 July 2009 01:33 (sixteen years ago)

Well at least you have time to practice.

indeed ... Christie made his name prosecuting other NJ political crooks (like sharpe james). not to mention that Corzine got into politics by dropping tons of his Goldman Sachs cash on North Jersey Dem leaders (like who got busted today) and constantly kissing up to them. i'm not saying that Corzine has any connection to today's events (though i wouldn't be surprised if he did), but even before today he was behind in the polls to Christie.

i also imagine that former gov. Jim Florio (a previous Corzine victim) is privately laughing up his sleeve at Corzine's problems right now.

some sick fuck with a bow and arrow killing roos and koalas (Eisbaer), Friday, 24 July 2009 01:43 (sixteen years ago)

LOLZ, we're so scummy out here

im a fucking unicorn you douchebags (forksclovetofu), Friday, 24 July 2009 03:44 (sixteen years ago)

The corruption scandal is being reported in the papers today thus:

"'Organ trafficking': Rabbis arrested over massive crime ring"

Uh... lol?

seagulls are assholes (Trayce), Friday, 24 July 2009 05:31 (sixteen years ago)

I'm finding this all a bit confusing -- was the organ trafficking somehow linked to the money laundering and/or the bribe-taking mayors? Or was it just a bunch of different corrupt stuff that this one guy led the authorities to.

the kid is crying because did sharks died? (Hurting 2), Friday, 24 July 2009 05:59 (sixteen years ago)

more about the early years of my city's (now arrested) mayor. very soap-operesque and gossipy (and not usually my thing), but i link it to show what an utter douchebag cammarano is.

some sick fuck with a bow and arrow killing roos and koalas (Eisbaer), Friday, 24 July 2009 07:59 (sixteen years ago)

Corzine is absolutely toast at this point. He's been totally ineffective as gov. Not so fun fact: he lives in Hoboken, commutes to Trenton. No way this chump Cammarano got elected without the sign of the cross from Corz.

Bill Magill, Friday, 24 July 2009 13:16 (sixteen years ago)

Wearing white pants during your perp walk, C or D?

What a fucking loser.

Bill Magill, Friday, 24 July 2009 19:17 (sixteen years ago)

http://abclocal.go.com/wabc/video?id=6931297

some sick fuck with a bow and arrow killing roos and koalas (Eisbaer), Friday, 24 July 2009 19:26 (sixteen years ago)

was the organ trafficking somehow linked to the money laundering and/or the bribe-taking mayors?

ha, I keep trying to find more details about this, because it actually sounds as if one of the money-laundering connections was just, like, "hey, so long as you're here, you know anyone who needs some kidneys? cuz I can get some kidneys"

nabisco, Friday, 24 July 2009 19:37 (sixteen years ago)

The NYTimes article from today makes it sound like they were completely separate things and this guy just happened to know about both.

the kid is crying because did sharks died? (Hurting 2), Friday, 24 July 2009 19:39 (sixteen years ago)

"And while you're at it, there's the dude at the deli not putting enough mustard on my sandwiches without a payoff."

Ned Raggett, Friday, 24 July 2009 19:40 (sixteen years ago)

I stand corrected: so it was an informant who was like "hey, so long as we're doing this, you wanna take down some organ traffickers? cause I can find you some organ traffickers"

nabisco, Friday, 24 July 2009 19:43 (sixteen years ago)

The Real Teenagers of New Jersey

http://fourfour.typepad.com/fourfour/2009/07/super-sweet.html

dan selzer, Friday, 24 July 2009 19:45 (sixteen years ago)

Yeah, that was pretty confusing.

Spectrum, Friday, 24 July 2009 19:45 (sixteen years ago)

One of the 44 arrested found dead

tokyo rosemary, Wednesday, 29 July 2009 13:26 (sixteen years ago)

one month passes...

another example of one of our homegrown finest (courtesy of njguido.com, where else?!?)

http://nj-guido.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/05/guid8.jpg

Mein bester Freund, die Kackwurst, wird bis zu einem Meter groß. (Eisbaer), Tuesday, 1 September 2009 04:18 (sixteen years ago)

two months pass...

> also, Corzine is pretty much boned right now ... time to get used to saying Governor Christie.

― some sick fuck with a bow and arrow killing roos and koalas (Eisbaer), Thursday, July 23, 2009 9:30 PM (3 months ago) Bookmark

crack?!? wow, maybe they can have china white later! (Eisbaer), Wednesday, 4 November 2009 07:51 (sixteen years ago)

cant believe we have a fat governor

Bobby Wo (max), Wednesday, 4 November 2009 13:23 (sixteen years ago)

now no one will respect new jersey politics

Bobby Wo (max), Wednesday, 4 November 2009 13:23 (sixteen years ago)

"now no one will respect new jersey politics"

hahahaha, that's hilarious

Bill Magill, Wednesday, 4 November 2009 14:15 (sixteen years ago)

seven months pass...

This is where I'm originally from:

http://www.njn.net/about/pressroom/highlandsrediscovered/

Up north in West Milford.

Evan, Monday, 7 June 2010 22:40 (fifteen years ago)

Also, if anyone has seen The Station Agent... there.

Evan, Monday, 7 June 2010 22:48 (fifteen years ago)

pretty

these bitches need to be put in their places (surm), Monday, 7 June 2010 22:59 (fifteen years ago)

Thanks :)

Evan, Tuesday, 8 June 2010 02:03 (fifteen years ago)

one month passes...

after being here for like 5 years i'm finally down to defend new jersey.

Aerosol, Friday, 6 August 2010 17:27 (fifteen years ago)

Where do you live? I live in Morristown. Its like every other state, there are good and bad places. Morristown is nice. I work in Saddle River, that's REAL nice.

Chicago to Philadelphia: "Suck It" (Bill Magill), Friday, 6 August 2010 17:38 (fifteen years ago)

had nothing against jersey before I moved to nyc

jersey license plate in manhattan has a amazingly high correlation to asshole driver

iatee, Friday, 6 August 2010 17:41 (fifteen years ago)

hawthorne xp

reason i was thinking about this is because we may be moving to Astoria, Queens. which is nice but not jersey

Aerosol, Friday, 6 August 2010 17:43 (fifteen years ago)

I moved from Astoria to JC and preferred Astoria a lot. But here I am anyway.

8o---e*.\\\||///.*ə---o8 (forksclovetofu), Friday, 6 August 2010 17:48 (fifteen years ago)

have some good friends in JC and have spent a lot of time there lately. i dig it,much love for Downtown Taqueria especially

Aerosol, Friday, 6 August 2010 18:05 (fifteen years ago)

Taqueria is like a Tuesday tradition. See also: John's Pizzeria, More, Soul Flavors, Grand Sichuan

8o---e*.\\\||///.*ə---o8 (forksclovetofu), Friday, 6 August 2010 18:25 (fifteen years ago)

I'm going to see if I can move to Philadelphia sometime in fall/winter and make arrangements to do my awful phone work networked in from home, even though it means subletting my current apartment (and probably finding a roommate)- I've gotten sick of being tantalizingly close to cities with actual shit to do but having so little opportunity to actually take advantage of them. I've definitely gotten over the "holy shit I'm not in Alabama anymore wheeee" honeymoon phase of NJ residency.

a black white asian pine ghost who is fake (Telephone thing), Friday, 6 August 2010 19:34 (fifteen years ago)

five months pass...

http://www.reuters.com/article/idUSTRE70H5YR20110118

am0n, Wednesday, 19 January 2011 16:44 (fifteen years ago)

wow.

curmudgeon, Wednesday, 19 January 2011 17:26 (fifteen years ago)

Camden broke shocker

hey boys, suppers on me, our video just went bacterial (Hurting 2), Wednesday, 19 January 2011 17:27 (fifteen years ago)

three months pass...

i tried to go to barcade on saturday night around 11.30 and there was a LINE
a line to go into a BAR
IN JERSEY SHITTY

And thusly create the illusion of babby (forksclovetofu), Monday, 2 May 2011 17:06 (fourteen years ago)

ten months pass...

God help America if this is true ...

kurwa mać (Polish for "long life") (Eisbaer), Monday, 19 March 2012 23:55 (thirteen years ago)

three weeks pass...
seven months pass...

controversial viral map

http://i.imgur.com/Pwnf4.jpg

saltwater incursion (Dr Morbius), Sunday, 25 November 2012 19:14 (thirteen years ago)

parents live in the 'farms and army bases' belt which is probably pretty true

乒乓, Sunday, 25 November 2012 19:19 (thirteen years ago)

Can't believe I've never contributed to this thread - lifelong NJ resident (born in Livingston Hospital, grew up in Westfield, lived in Elizabeth the last 20 years). On the map I live in "The Melting Pot," while my mom currently lives in the "Hill People" section (house on the edge of a state park, she's actually had bears in her driveway).

誤訳侮辱, Sunday, 25 November 2012 19:50 (thirteen years ago)

grew up in vast wilderness of rednecks section. my hometown looked like being on set at a taping of my name is earl.

Spectrum, Sunday, 25 November 2012 20:03 (thirteen years ago)

"middle-class raritan valley line commuters" is not wholly inaccurate

GAY HIPSTER BATMAN ON HIS WAY TO A CIRCUIT PARTY (donna rouge), Sunday, 25 November 2012 20:34 (thirteen years ago)

誤訳侮辱 i grew up right next door to you (cranford)

GAY HIPSTER BATMAN ON HIS WAY TO A CIRCUIT PARTY (donna rouge), Sunday, 25 November 2012 20:34 (thirteen years ago)

yay i'm a poor minority

(alternatively, “Respec’”) (forksclovetofu), Sunday, 25 November 2012 23:48 (thirteen years ago)

Oops, so am I; I misread the map and Elizabeth is filed under "Poor Minorities" (which honestly I don't know about—sure, half the store signs are in Spanish, but I'm definitely noticing some gentrification lately; a lot of people around town these days who look like they decided it was a cheap alternative to Brooklyn).

誤訳侮辱, Monday, 26 November 2012 00:54 (thirteen years ago)

JC now has a four-star New York Magazine restaurant two blocks from my house, suck it minorities

(alternatively, “Respec’”) (forksclovetofu), Monday, 26 November 2012 01:23 (thirteen years ago)

five months pass...

http://www.nj.com/news/index.ssf/2013/05/top-shelf_scheme_authorities_r.html

i'm never drinking at a tgifridays ever again

乒乓, Wednesday, 22 May 2013 20:53 (twelve years ago)

PATH train completely sputtered out for an hour between 6 and 7 pm last night

klaus dingeldore's rhinelander monkey keeper father (forksclovetofu), Wednesday, 22 May 2013 20:54 (twelve years ago)

I follow PATH on Twitter and that seems to be happening an awful lot lately.

tokyo rosemary, Wednesday, 22 May 2013 21:45 (twelve years ago)

it's drastically overworked. even on off hours it's WAY crowded

klaus dingeldore's rhinelander monkey keeper father (forksclovetofu), Wednesday, 22 May 2013 22:01 (twelve years ago)

Grove Street PATH at 6 AM used to be 75 klicks to nowhere & now it's packed w/ dapper savages (calling in the airstrike any day now).

(keeping my eye on u forks)

Hellhouse, Wednesday, 22 May 2013 23:18 (twelve years ago)

not creepy at all

klaus dingeldore's rhinelander monkey keeper father (forksclovetofu), Wednesday, 22 May 2013 23:41 (twelve years ago)

Follow up on Operation Swill:

"At one bar, a mixture that included rubbing alcohol and caramel coloring was sold as scotch. In another, premium liquor bottles were refilled with water — and apparently not even clean water at that."

http://www.nytimes.com/aponline/2013/05/23/us/ap-us-operation-swill.html?hp

o. nate, Thursday, 23 May 2013 20:24 (twelve years ago)

not creepy at all

joeks, mang. lurking in NYC's foul water-warped basement f/ nearly twenty years has been economic but perhaps ill-suited to sanguine sentiment (I blame the rubbing alcohol tbh).

Hellhouse, Thursday, 23 May 2013 22:51 (twelve years ago)

lol, it's cool. I just don't remember ever having seen you post before so the first time I'm heard from you was all "TEH CALL IS COMING FROM INSIDE TEH HOUSE"

klaus dingeldore's rhinelander monkey keeper father (forksclovetofu), Friday, 24 May 2013 03:50 (twelve years ago)

i love new jersey. and the new PATH trains... they are so clean and sleek. i don't use them to commute or anything though. new jersey has the grounds for sculpture, the princeton record exchange, and me. obviously the best state.

Treeship, Friday, 24 May 2013 03:54 (twelve years ago)

also walt whitman is here, even though he is a corpse now. that counts for something.

Treeship, Friday, 24 May 2013 03:56 (twelve years ago)

Also has the Joyce Kilmer rest stop, which counts for...negative something.

lets just remember to blame the patriarchy for (in orbit), Friday, 24 May 2013 04:06 (twelve years ago)

don't know much about joyce kilmer but that rest stop has a starbucks iirc so it isn't bad as far as turnpike service areas go

Treeship, Friday, 24 May 2013 04:15 (twelve years ago)

Molly Pitcher

dan selzer, Friday, 24 May 2013 04:16 (twelve years ago)

i tried to read a book about the misfits in the library today while i was waiting for someone and the first two pages was just ragging on new jersey, saying that it was the only place that could produce a band so fucked up and disaffected as the misfits. i think they even said that new jersey was a "misfit" among states. i didn't like this angle.

Treeship, Friday, 24 May 2013 04:18 (twelve years ago)

fuck. new jersey is getting too cool man. i gotta get out of here.

stefon taylor swiftboat (s.clover), Friday, 24 May 2013 04:27 (twelve years ago)

two weeks pass...

i am in wildwood, new jersey

it is very rainy and grey. i've only just arrived, but it seems like kind of a cool place tbh

1 P.3. Eternal (roxymuzak), Monday, 10 June 2013 17:31 (twelve years ago)

googie architecture is fun.

dan selzer, Monday, 10 June 2013 17:51 (twelve years ago)

i like turtles

i didn't even give much of a fuck that you were mod (forksclovetofu), Monday, 10 June 2013 18:10 (twelve years ago)

New Jersey seems less defensible every day I live here. And yet I am still defensive of it.

Treeship, Monday, 10 June 2013 18:12 (twelve years ago)

I heard the WNYC news bit on this today and lol'd at "Xanadu"

ballin' from Maine to Mexico (Dr Morbius), Monday, 10 June 2013 18:20 (twelve years ago)

xanadu is old lolz in jersey brah get with it

i don't even have an internet (Hurting 2), Monday, 10 June 2013 18:35 (twelve years ago)

first time i went to wildwood there were so many jellyfish in the water that it was basically un-swimmable

misandry rublev (donna rouge), Monday, 10 June 2013 18:36 (twelve years ago)

Meadowlands is getting a skating rink?

dan selzer, Monday, 10 June 2013 18:37 (twelve years ago)

I'm predicting that before xanadu is completed, there will be another mini real estate and economic crisis and the project will stall again. bookmark the thread

i don't even have an internet (Hurting 2), Monday, 10 June 2013 18:37 (twelve years ago)

I had that experience at Wildwood too.

First time I went was when I started dating my girlfriend and I hadn't been to the beach in like 10 years. I got so sunburned I missed 2 days of work.

dan selzer, Monday, 10 June 2013 18:37 (twelve years ago)

you should take a day trip to Cape May, if you haven't planned to do so already.

عليك ارتداء ماكياج من مهرج مثلي الجنس المتداول مائة عميق في سيارة مصغر (Eisbaer), Tuesday, 11 June 2013 00:13 (twelve years ago)

STOP FUCKING RAINING ALREADY

i didn't even give much of a fuck that you were mod (forksclovetofu), Tuesday, 11 June 2013 00:20 (twelve years ago)

^

Treeship, Tuesday, 11 June 2013 00:20 (twelve years ago)

^

1 P.3. Eternal (roxymuzak), Tuesday, 11 June 2013 07:33 (twelve years ago)

one month passes...

http://www.nytimes.com/2013/07/10/business/media/senator-seeks-fcc-review-of-wwor-tvs-license.html?hpw

no news? really?

j., Friday, 12 July 2013 06:46 (twelve years ago)

Portions of the shore, particular towns, and beauty of the nature near my hometown are to always be defended.

Evan, Friday, 12 July 2013 13:35 (twelve years ago)

i'm in North Jersey near Newark and it's hard finding things to defend. it's like a combination of the worst of the suburbs and the worst of urban environments. there's nothing to do, you have to drive in dense, perpetual traffic on shitty roads just to buy a thing of milk which ends up taking a half an hour, etc. commuting to work takes over an hour to go about 11 miles daily. everything's barely a notch below NYC in affordability.

it's probably OK if you have a family, but woe be to any young single adult living here. the more rural areas can be nice, though. the town i grew up in had some pretty nature and old architecture that gave it a sorta idyllic Northeast American feel in some parts, though you'd get pulled out of that pretty quickly with the redneck bigots who populated the area. honestly, most of the defensible for me comes from being so close to NYC (heresy!!)

Spectrum, Friday, 12 July 2013 14:31 (twelve years ago)

Northeast Jersey other than Jersey City and maybe Hoboken is particularly bad -- expensive, dense, mostly pretty uncharming.

i don't even have an internet (Hurting 2), Friday, 12 July 2013 15:14 (twelve years ago)

And then again

http://gawker.com/passenger-records-nj-bus-driver-jerking-off-on-the-job-754944696

Ned Raggett, Friday, 12 July 2013 15:35 (twelve years ago)

I grew up north-west of the Sopranos-zone where all the shitty jokes about smelly NJ are born. Up there it's all hills, mountains, woods, creeks, railroads... very pretty. Newark is shit and so is Jersey City mostly. I live in Hoboken and the best of culture is almost completely drained yet it is still safe and quaint looking.

Evan, Friday, 12 July 2013 18:00 (twelve years ago)

Where are you spectrum? That's sounds about the opposite if my experience growing up and of everyone I know still out there or whove moved out there. Queens and Brooklyn transplants to lovely places like Maplewood, South Orange, Montclair etc. All "near Newark".

dan selzer, Saturday, 13 July 2013 06:17 (twelve years ago)

the town i live in is absolutely beautiful but it sucks

Treeship, Saturday, 13 July 2013 06:19 (twelve years ago)

But yeah spectrum. Didn't notice the second part. Why would any young single person live anywhere that isn't a major city i'll never know.

dan selzer, Saturday, 13 July 2013 06:22 (twelve years ago)

I moved outta "near Newark" (Passaic counts, right?) 21 years ago, don't miss it.

playwright Greg Marlowe, secretly in love with Mary (Dr Morbius), Saturday, 13 July 2013 11:06 (twelve years ago)

I live in Hoboken and the best of culture is almost completely drained yet it is still safe and quaint looking.

tru dat.

i was born & raised around Princeton ... what countryside is left (i.e. hasn't been turned into miles of McMansions and strip malls) is still pretty nice and bucolic.

عليك ارتداء ماكياج من مهرج مثلي الجنس المتداول مائة عميق في سيارة مصغر (Eisbaer), Saturday, 13 July 2013 11:48 (twelve years ago)

Center of town is pretty there!

Evan, Saturday, 13 July 2013 19:01 (twelve years ago)

xp eisebar that is also where i am from, and live currently (cranbury). i am in the princeton public library right now.

Treeship, Saturday, 13 July 2013 19:09 (twelve years ago)

Hey Hurting: you up for some fast pro bono advice? Or know someone who does Jersey residential law? My lease has gone month to month for quite some time now and my new landlord (last one died, this is his brother who inherited the space) is evicting me in September. I'm going to go in any case but I'd like to know how much leeway I have over him for negotiating purposes. How much does the law support the renter?

how bad could it be to be stuck to the couch, forever... (forksclovetofu), Tuesday, 16 July 2013 14:13 (twelve years ago)

I know a lawyer that specializes in that but he is $$$

Evan, Tuesday, 16 July 2013 14:44 (twelve years ago)

Btw Spectrum if you settle somewhere a bit west or north-west of where you are you can find much more defensible environments. Why be so close to Newark?

Evan, Tuesday, 16 July 2013 14:46 (twelve years ago)

forks I don't know anything about jersey landlord tenant and I don't want to commit legal malpractice. Anything I told you would just be from the internet anyway.

i don't even have an internet (Hurting 2), Tuesday, 16 July 2013 15:03 (twelve years ago)

four weeks pass...

http://www.salon.com/2013/08/13/dont_vote_for_cory_booker/

Miss Arlington twirls for the Coal Heavers (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 13 August 2013 16:28 (twelve years ago)

yay

"Dave Barlow" is the name Lou uses on sabermetrics baseball sites (s.clover), Tuesday, 13 August 2013 16:37 (twelve years ago)

lucky me, they're doing polling at a school right outside my apartment. i'm going to vote for rush holt. booker's the wrong kind-of democrat.

Spectrum, Tuesday, 13 August 2013 17:18 (twelve years ago)

http://www.nytimes.com/2013/08/18/realestate/meanwhile-in-jersey-city.html
it's all downhill from here

YOU FOOLS PAY OVER $2.50 for a comic book (forksclovetofu), Saturday, 17 August 2013 20:13 (twelve years ago)

Or maybe the nytimes means Queens?

http://www.nytimes.com/2013/08/18/realestate/costly-rents-push-brooklynites-to-queens.html?pagewanted=all&_r=0

Next week it'll be yonkers.

dan selzer, Saturday, 17 August 2013 22:30 (twelve years ago)

Can't believe they used that photo! That statue is like the funniest in-joke in Jersey City. I used to take people to see it b/c they didn't believe me.

Tottenham Heelspur (in orbit), Saturday, 17 August 2013 23:20 (twelve years ago)

that statue is in appallingly bad taste.

"Dave Barlow" is the name Lou uses on sabermetrics baseball sites (s.clover), Saturday, 17 August 2013 23:35 (twelve years ago)

NYCers, please stay out.

i have mixed feelings about that statue -- glad it exists, but it is bizarre.

عليك ارتداء ماكياج من مهرج مثلي الجنس المتداول مائة عميق في سيارة مصغر (Eisbaer), Sunday, 18 August 2013 01:01 (twelve years ago)

p. sure JC's charter expressly forbids ~entertaining nite lyfe~

Hellhouse, Sunday, 18 August 2013 01:38 (twelve years ago)

this article is basically because fulop has connections i think

"Dave Barlow" is the name Lou uses on sabermetrics baseball sites (s.clover), Sunday, 18 August 2013 01:48 (twelve years ago)

probably right but couple of things are starting to percolate around here over the past year

YOU FOOLS PAY OVER $2.50 for a comic book (forksclovetofu), Sunday, 18 August 2013 02:24 (twelve years ago)

yeah but JC's perennial pending resurgence has been noted so many times that its dormant potential has become its defining narrative (the city's been cheap and accessible and unpretentious for so long precisely b/c its residents have insistently declined attempts to establish ~NYC culture~ that would essentially destroy it's raison d'etre even while raising its pulse above torpid). (11,000 new housing units in the pipeline obv suggest cultural upheaval via market forces, but I've also seen a fair amount of these new multi-unit monstrosities almost pitch black at night).

xp

Hellhouse, Sunday, 18 August 2013 02:30 (twelve years ago)

higher prices are inevitable given NYC's real estate trajectory, but I'm not sold on the stale gloss being hustled again.

Hellhouse, Sunday, 18 August 2013 02:34 (twelve years ago)

i'm looking for an apartment out here and a nice, grown up 1bedroom at 1750 is nowhere to be found

YOU FOOLS PAY OVER $2.50 for a comic book (forksclovetofu), Sunday, 18 August 2013 02:38 (twelve years ago)

I've had four apartments in the downtown area, but I haven't looked for a rental f/ years. (prices f/ property tho have been stagnant since the RE bubble popped, but I have noticed some of the larger buildings tenaciously clinging to their prices despite numerous empty units). $1750 admittedly seems high f/ a one-bedroom but it obv depends on yr criteria f/ ~nice and grown up~ (also JC's currency is p. cyclical compared to the more rigid arcs of NYC, maybe yr caught in a temporary upswing? idk).

Hellhouse, Sunday, 18 August 2013 03:07 (twelve years ago)

i think that post-sandy everyone wants to rent and no one wants to own. There are about six for sale signs on each block out here. condos near public transit start at 2k+ for a 1br

YOU FOOLS PAY OVER $2.50 for a comic book (forksclovetofu), Sunday, 18 August 2013 03:30 (twelve years ago)

no yr right, iirc NYC is experiencing the same upward pressure on rental prices. (I'm just curmudgeonly waving away JC's played cultural renaissance pitch, nothing to see here, move along).

Hellhouse, Sunday, 18 August 2013 03:45 (twelve years ago)

i'm not arguing it's played; i heard the same schtick when i moved here a decade ago. but damned if it don't look like it's kinda taking root finally. not that i'm pleased exactly.

YOU FOOLS PAY OVER $2.50 for a comic book (forksclovetofu), Sunday, 18 August 2013 03:56 (twelve years ago)

i moved to Hoboken in 1998, and talk about JC's resurgence was rife back then too (as well as "evidence" that it wasn't just some will o' the wisp/typical realtor bullshit). so i'll believe when i see it (to wit: when it's too late to jump in and make a mint)

عليك ارتداء ماكياج من مهرج مثلي الجنس المتداول مائة عميق في سيارة مصغر (Eisbaer), Sunday, 18 August 2013 04:14 (twelve years ago)

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/02/24/realestate/24hunt.html
^five years old now.
i'm friends with these guys, their great dane died unfortunately. sweet dog.

YOU FOOLS PAY OVER $2.50 for a comic book (forksclovetofu), Sunday, 18 August 2013 04:29 (twelve years ago)

oh no i agree like everything feels a bit 'nicer' each year but its so gradual you barely notice. but there are these storefronts that seem to keep trying to get ahead of the curve, and have a succession of things like 8$ organic juices that just are not going to cut it, and eventually either they become another pizza and wings shop or office space. worst 'old jersey is going away' moment for me lately was europa deli having to close up.

"Dave Barlow" is the name Lou uses on sabermetrics baseball sites (s.clover), Sunday, 18 August 2013 16:57 (twelve years ago)

Didn't they reopen? I thought they just renovated? Totally agree on the dipshittery of eight buck juice places. Plus they are generally poorly managed! My ex calls jersy city "the and of the half assed idea".

YOU FOOLS PAY OVER $2.50 for a comic book (forksclovetofu), Sunday, 18 August 2013 18:15 (twelve years ago)

they renovated and reopened and then one day there was an eviction notice up and now they're gone entirely. at one point before they folded, they started smoking their own salmon on occasion. it was the freshest smoked salmon i've had.

"Dave Barlow" is the name Lou uses on sabermetrics baseball sites (s.clover), Sunday, 18 August 2013 18:55 (twelve years ago)

yeah forks I don't think you're ~rong~ or w/e, I mean, sure, there's Barcade and the bike shop and a handful of new restaurants and the goddamn family circus obstacle course at the Grove Street PATH entrance and how can I forget Lucky 7 next door which proudly hosts the worst garage rock in the Tri-State, but it's just a hodgepodge of misc. venues w/o any real traction. (waiting to see if JC will do anything interesting with the ~Powerhouse Arts District~ or will look to emulate WALDO's heroic transformation from thriving art community to noxious condo cluster).

Hellhouse, Sunday, 18 August 2013 19:48 (twelve years ago)

that sucks about europa, i rarely pass by there but i was happy they were there.
we need a music venue very badly. one appears to be coming soon.

YOU FOOLS PAY OVER $2.50 for a comic book (forksclovetofu), Monday, 19 August 2013 00:37 (twelve years ago)

RIP Uncle Joe's

Tottenham Heelspur (in orbit), Monday, 19 August 2013 00:42 (twelve years ago)

two weeks pass...

Didn't Uncle Joe's close years ago?

#fomo that's the motto (Hurting 2), Tuesday, 3 September 2013 14:40 (twelve years ago)

Anyway, came to post this, which my friends make:

http://www.drivingjersey.com/drivingjersey.com/Home.html

#fomo that's the motto (Hurting 2), Tuesday, 3 September 2013 14:41 (twelve years ago)

four months pass...

It seems the real Bridgegate story may be in Hoboken

http://www.msnbc.com/msnbc/mayor-christie-camp-held-sandy-money-hostage

eclectic husbandry (Dr Morbius), Saturday, 18 January 2014 16:24 (twelve years ago)

one year passes...

i'm starting to smell prison

Governor Chris Christie today announced that New Jersey Department of Transportation Commissioner Jamie Fox will transition back to the private sector by the end of the month, when NJDOT Deputy Commissioner Joseph Bertoni will take over as Acting Commissioner.

A prominent Democrat who worked for both former Governor James McGreevey and former Senator Bob Torricelli, Fox worked as a lobbyist for United Airlines prior to going to the Christie Administration, and prior to the resignation of a United Airlines CEO amid a federal probe of the Bridgegate scandal.

WNYC’s Matt Katz reported earlier this week that while a lobbyist, “Fox tried to influence Democrats in the Legislature to back off from its investigation of the mysterious lane closures at the George Washington Bridge in the fall of 2013, according to three sources from the Legislature and Port Authority close to the investigation.”

http://politickernj.com/2015/10/christie-fox-done-as-dot-commissioner/

skateboards are the new combover (Dr Morbius), Friday, 2 October 2015 23:44 (ten years ago)

seven months pass...

Cory Booker's cutesy pandering to HRC crowd at today's rally makes me want to fwow up on him weal bad

@KattyKayBBC
Cory Booker - Teddy Roosevelt was wrong it's not a man we need in the arena, it's a woman.

@dick_nixon
The Navy has a name for this sort of thing.

we can be heroes just for about 3.6 seconds (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 1 June 2016 19:53 (nine years ago)

Jennifer Epstein‏@jeneps
Cory Booker: "I hate to contradict Bon Jovi but, dear God, Hillary Clinton you give love a good name"

we can be heroes just for about 3.6 seconds (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 1 June 2016 19:54 (nine years ago)

one month passes...

@pareene
Ppl shouldn't get rich as the country falls into crisis, I agree with the failed Newark mayor who became a millionaire thru a sham startup

The Hon. J. Piedmont Mumblethunder (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 26 July 2016 14:49 (nine years ago)

eleven months pass...

http://www.nj.com/politics/index.ssf/2017/07/christie_pictured_at_island_beach_state_park_durin.html#incart_river_home

People hoping to visit Island Beach State Park this holiday weekend were not allowed in because of the state government shutdown Gov. Chris Christie ordered amid the state budget standoff in Trenton.

But there was one family there: Christie's. They are using the summer beach house provided by the state for a weekend down the Shore.

And here are exclusive aerial photos by NJ Advance Media showing Christie surrounded by wife Mary Pat and others.

It was taken early Sunday afternoon before the governor headed to Trenton to hold another news conference about the shutdown.

j., Monday, 3 July 2017 00:46 (eight years ago)

it's not often that you get a shot of the governor looking up at the helicopter camera

Karl Malone, Monday, 3 July 2017 03:35 (eight years ago)

Christie's money quote this weekend was "You're lookin' at Mr. Reasonable."

Supercreditor (Dr Morbius), Monday, 3 July 2017 03:43 (eight years ago)

He must be trying to sink his approval ratings as low as possible. #embracethedisgrace

Treeship, Monday, 3 July 2017 03:47 (eight years ago)

"as saltwater taffy shortages continue across the state a life-sized taffy sculpture of the governor's wife was wheeled into his mansion"

— slackbot (@pareene) July 2, 2017

Supercreditor (Dr Morbius), Monday, 3 July 2017 05:26 (eight years ago)

Chris Christie: From Here to Eternity pic.twitter.com/Rxf6uZhjLW

— Nell Scovell (@NellSco) July 3, 2017

j., Monday, 3 July 2017 18:20 (eight years ago)

Normandy Beach #NeverForget pic.twitter.com/dRx4HJoRpk

— Edel Rodriguez (@edelstudio) July 3, 2017

j., Tuesday, 4 July 2017 01:32 (eight years ago)

And here I was thinking that purposefully creating traffic on the GWB was the height of douchebaggery...

calstars, Tuesday, 4 July 2017 01:49 (eight years ago)

one month passes...

ICYMI

In bombshell testimony that’s likely to dog the Christie administration in its final months, NJ Transit’s fired chief compliance officer said Friday he was forced out with little explanation after his repeated attempts to raise questions about systemic issues at the troubled agency, which he called a “runaway train.”...

Particularly troublesome to lawmakers were the issues of patronage hiring, which they have been looking at closely since last year. NJ Transit has been unable to provide resumes for numerous top staffers and officials could not explain why it had been unable to locate any such records.

http://www.politico.com/states/new-jersey/story/2017/08/25/fired-nj-transit-executive-says-agency-is-runaway-train-114153

ice cream social justice (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 29 August 2017 16:51 (eight years ago)

nine months pass...

https://explorepartsunknown.com/new-jersey/bourdains-field-notes-new-jersey/

the ignatius rock of ignorance (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 14 June 2018 14:35 (seven years ago)

thanks,going to watch that one again tonight!

(•̪●) (carne asada), Thursday, 14 June 2018 14:53 (seven years ago)

:(

http://nymag.com/daily/intelligencer/2018/06/trenton-arts-festival-mass-shooting-leaves-20-injured.html

reggie (qualmsley), Sunday, 17 June 2018 15:48 (seven years ago)

three years pass...

Today, I signed historic legislation to protect reproductive freedom in New Jersey – codifying the right to choose into state law and expanding contraception coverage.

In New Jersey, we trust each individual person to make their reproductive choices for themselves. pic.twitter.com/5fOb6azXIa

— Governor Phil Murphy (@GovMurphy) January 13, 2022

(•̪●) (carne asada), Thursday, 13 January 2022 19:19 (four years ago)


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