Taking sides: kissing with tongues before sex or vice versa

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So, I've been seeing this hot girl for the past few weeks. It's all been going really well, with the possible exception of the kissing; she seemed to be a good kisser, but only in a closed mouth no-tongues kind of a way. I'd made a few attempts to use my tongue, but she didn't seem to be into it; I'd even initiated a conversation about how I liked the way she kissed, but that it maybe wasn't as "passionate" as I was used to. She'd asked me what I meant, so I tried to show her; again, her tongue was nowhere to be found.

Anyway, the sex has been so hot that I hadn't really given the matter much thought, until last night she said "I have a theory that you've either kissed someone else since you last saw me, or you've been talking about kissing". I was like "wtf?", and she explained that I was finally using my tongue when kissing her. Obviously I was like "wtf?" even more at this point, pointing out that she was the one who wasn't into tongues.

So it basically turns out that we both thought the other person was a freaky no-tongues kisser, based mostly on our first kiss. It's still not clear to me how this happened, and it's kinda funny now (and gives me something new and exciting to look forward to with her). But has anyone else experienced this kind of confusion? It does feel pretty odd to have slept with someone quite a bit before kissing them properly. And are there actually weird people out there who don't use their tongues at all?

― blushing slightly, Monday, 1 November 2004 11:44 (twenty years ago)

i'm a bit shy sometimes about kissing with tongues, it always seems a little bit messy .. so sometimes i compromise and kiss with my willy instead of my tongue

― ken c (ken c), Monday, 1 November 2004 11:50 (twenty years ago)

FREE WILLY

― Rob Bolton (Rob Bolton), Monday, 1 November 2004 12:46 (twenty years ago)

BILL STICKERS IS INNOCENT

― Markelby (Mark C), Monday, 1 November 2004 12:47 (twenty years ago)

so sometimes i compromise and kiss with my willy

Wow, are you a contortionist, or have you removed a rib or something?

― Chewshabadoo (Chewshabadoo), Monday, 1 November 2004 12:49 (twenty years ago)

post-sex is a no no. pam won't kiss the 'pussy face'.

― stevie (stevie), Monday, 1 November 2004 12:49 (twenty years ago)

I started going out with this guy who didn't use tongues for the first month. Then he went all tongue crazy. Like really awful, circling your tongue 20 times clockwise then 20 times anti-clockwise.
It was a factor in our break up.

― marianna lcl (marianna lcl), Monday, 1 November 2004 12:51 (twenty years ago)

Why not? It's her goo after all!
x-post

― PinXorchiXoR (Pinkpanther), Monday, 1 November 2004 12:52 (twenty years ago)

i don't know. she's squeamish like that.

― stevie (stevie), Monday, 1 November 2004 12:54 (twenty years ago)

goo are what you eat

xpost

― ken c (ken c), Monday, 1 November 2004 12:55 (twenty years ago)

Kissyfur.

― B.A.R.M.S. (Barima), Monday, 1 November 2004 12:55 (twenty years ago)

Hahahaha! Ken I kiss you! (without tongues or willies!)
x-post

― PinXorchiXoR (Pinkpanther), Monday, 1 November 2004 12:56 (twenty years ago)

yay kisses! and gooless i hope!

― ken c (ken c), Monday, 1 November 2004 12:58 (twenty years ago)

Dude, if I could get my own goo on my face, i wouldn't be on ILX now would I?!

― PinXorchiXoR (Pinkpanther), Monday, 1 November 2004 13:05 (twenty years ago)

I like tongue.

― Markelby (Mark C), Monday, 1 November 2004 13:06 (twenty years ago)

ox?

― PinXorchiXoR (Pinkpanther), Monday, 1 November 2004 13:10 (twenty years ago)

Dude, if I could get my own goo on my face, i wouldn't be on ILX now would I?!
-- PinXorchiXoR (pink{est}panther4...), November 1st, 2004 1:05 PM. (later)

quote of 2004!

― ken c (ken c), Monday, 1 November 2004 13:11 (twenty years ago)

and also.. obv. kissing with tongues during sex is best.

― ken c (ken c), Monday, 1 November 2004 13:12 (twenty years ago)

Well unless I'd start a thread boasting about it of course!
x-post
otm

― PinXorchiXoR (Pinkpanther), Monday, 1 November 2004 13:13 (twenty years ago)

Unless you get a bit over enthusiastic of course! Kissing can be quite difficult.

― PinXorchiXoR (Pinkpanther), Monday, 1 November 2004 13:14 (twenty years ago)

Dude, if I could get my own goo on my face, i wouldn't be on ILX now would I?!
-- PinXorchiXoR (pink{est}panther4...), November 1st, 2004 1:05 PM. (later)

quote of 2004!

this should be on the back of the official ilx t-shirt.

― results not typical (Jody Beth Rosen), Monday, 1 November 2004 13:31 (twenty years ago)

Like really awful, circling your tongue 20 times clockwise then 20 times anti-clockwise.

oh, are you sure he wasn't just doing the hot new workout video? '20 ways to tone with tongue?'

― colette (a2lette), Monday, 1 November 2004 13:36 (twenty years ago)

Have you ever had tongue cramp?

― PinXorchiXoR (Pinkpanther), Monday, 1 November 2004 13:45 (twenty years ago)

yes, but not from kissing

― Rob Bolton (Rob Bolton), Monday, 1 November 2004 13:54 (twenty years ago)

Some people don't use tongues much.

― Jordan (Jordan), Monday, 1 November 2004 13:56 (twenty years ago)

no tongue cramp, but have had bad leg cramps before...

― stevie (stevie), Monday, 1 November 2004 14:00 (twenty years ago)

"kissing"

― Johnney B (Johnney B), Monday, 1 November 2004 14:23 (twenty years ago)

i wonder how much the subject of this discussion owes to the subject of this ("so drunk i can't remember") discussion...

― colette (a2lette), Monday, 1 November 2004 14:58 (twenty years ago)

Dude, if I could get my own goo on my face, i wouldn't be on ILX now would I?!
-- PinXorchiXoR (pink{est}panther4...), November 1st, 2004 1:05 PM. (later)
quote of 2004!

this should be on the back of the official ilx t-shirt.

Official ilx face masks, surely.

― ken c (ken c), Monday, 1 November 2004 15:05 (twenty years ago)

i dont let my girl kiss me after shes gone down on me and vice versa. ugh.

― splooge (thesplooge), Monday, 1 November 2004 15:53 (twenty years ago)

Haha you youngsters!

― PinXorchiXoR (Pinkpanther), Monday, 1 November 2004 15:53 (twenty years ago)

i dont let my girl kiss me after shes gone down on me and vice versa. ugh.

yeah eew imagine them kissing you and then going down on you

― ken c (ken c), Monday, 1 November 2004 15:54 (twenty years ago)

Ugh! Ugh! I do NOT like kissing the sex face! Yuck! That is one of the quickest ways to destroy the mood and harshbuzz my clit-on.

― Two-Headed Zombie With No Face (kate), Monday, 1 November 2004 15:54 (twenty years ago)

I have no idea what you just said, but is sounds pretty cool ;-).

― B.A.R.M.S. (Barima), Monday, 1 November 2004 15:59 (twenty years ago)

clit-on sounds like one of those novelty nokia phone covers for your clitoris

― ken c (ken c), Monday, 1 November 2004 16:02 (twenty years ago)

This forum has hit rock bottom.

― Matt DC (Matt DC), Monday, 1 November 2004 16:06 (twenty years ago)

God! Don't bring bottom into this now as well matt!

― ken c (ken c), Monday, 1 November 2004 16:09 (twenty years ago)

http://www.phoneyaccessory.co.uk/acatalog/act724.jpg

― ken c (ken c), Monday, 1 November 2004 16:10 (twenty years ago)

http://www.hamtaropage.com/noel/gadget/danydanil/cover%20nokia%20ham%20ham1.jpg

― ken c (ken c), Monday, 1 November 2004 16:11 (twenty years ago)

http://www.schorr-aviation-multimedia.de/images/handys/cover3210b.jpg

― ken c (ken c), Monday, 1 November 2004 16:11 (twenty years ago)

and the winner
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v323/kenjuggle/Flake_s.jpg

― ken c (ken c), Monday, 1 November 2004 16:12 (twenty years ago)

"yeah eew imagine them kissing you and then going down on you "

er, that's fine, actually. now, butt crack kissing, THEN mouth-kissing someone, thats the worst of all. NB - ive never done this one myself.

― splooge (thesplooge), Monday, 1 November 2004 16:12 (twenty years ago)

Why not?

― PinXorchiXoR (Pinkpanther), Monday, 1 November 2004 16:14 (twenty years ago)

Funny thread!

I like tongue-kissing but sometimes I get all distracted pondering the metaphysics of WHOSE TONGUE IS IN WHOSE MOUTH OR ARE THEY BOTH IN BOTH etc.

― Archel (Archel), Monday, 1 November 2004 16:16 (twenty years ago)

You lot are a bit precious, you know (apart from Pink).

― Markelby (Mark C), Monday, 1 November 2004 16:16 (twenty years ago)

er, that's fine, actually.

double standards.

― ken c (ken c), Monday, 1 November 2004 16:17 (twenty years ago)

You lot are a bit precious, you know (apart from Pink).

are you trying to say that pink is cheap?

― ken c (ken c), Monday, 1 November 2004 16:18 (twenty years ago)

meanie

― ken c (ken c), Monday, 1 November 2004 16:18 (twenty years ago)

In the best possible way :)

― Markelby (Mark C), Monday, 1 November 2004 16:20 (twenty years ago)

Ken just hit The Rock's bottom and now The Rock is looking at him with that famous raised-eyebrow expression he does so well. And then they lez up.

― B.A.R.M.S. (Barima), Monday, 1 November 2004 16:20 (twenty years ago)

you don't want to know what happened to the people's elbow

― ken c (ken c), Monday, 1 November 2004 16:22 (twenty years ago)

You took the bull by his horns, eh?

― B.A.R.M.S. (Barima), Monday, 1 November 2004 16:24 (twenty years ago)

are you trying to say that pink is cheap?
*cries*
I just can't understand anyone that would be so adverse to kissing someone that had just gone down on them! I mean wtf?!! It's your love juice mutha fucka!

― PinXorchiXoR (Pinkpanther), Monday, 1 November 2004 16:25 (twenty years ago)

i would have if Stone cold didn't arrive to put his rattlesnake into our stunners.

― ken c (ken c), Monday, 1 November 2004 16:26 (twenty years ago)

Erm...!!!!

― PinXorchiXoR (Pinkpanther), Monday, 1 November 2004 16:27 (twenty years ago)

xpost aw pinx yeah i have no idea either really (i don't care any which way). but i guess people all have some things that they can't stand.

― ken c (ken c), Monday, 1 November 2004 16:28 (twenty years ago)

hahhhhahaha XPOST

― ken c (ken c), Monday, 1 November 2004 16:28 (twenty years ago)

I kind of think that if you can't handle the taste of your own juices, why expect someone else to get down there??? However, each to his/her own. Or not, apparently.

― Archel (Archel), Monday, 1 November 2004 16:29 (twenty years ago)

...mmmm ILE i love you...

― The Ghost of Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Monday, 1 November 2004 16:29 (twenty years ago)

i am not precious

― Rob Bolton (Rob Bolton), Monday, 1 November 2004 16:33 (twenty years ago)

Archel and Pink OTM.

xpost - yes you are you ickle fwower!

― Markelby (Mark C), Monday, 1 November 2004 16:33 (twenty years ago)

i'm so hard that i only like hate-juice

― ken c (ken c), Monday, 1 November 2004 16:34 (twenty years ago)

"I just can't understand anyone that would be so adverse to kissing someone that had just gone down on them! I mean wtf?!! It's your love juice mutha fucka!"

the fact people are still calling it love juice just makes me not want to taste it second-hand even more. hate juice on the other hand. "YEAH LICK MY HATE JUICE! YEAAAAH!"

― splooge (thesplooge), Monday, 1 November 2004 16:36 (twenty years ago)

HOWS THAT HATE JUICE TASTE?!

― splooge (thesplooge), Monday, 1 November 2004 16:36 (twenty years ago)

i find it hard to accept that someone who uses the name "splooge" is averse to the love juice

― Rob Bolton (Rob Bolton), Monday, 1 November 2004 16:37 (twenty years ago)

I kind of think that if you can't handle the taste of your own juices, why expect someone else to get down there???
Exactly!

― PinXorchiXoR (Pinkpanther), Monday, 1 November 2004 16:37 (twenty years ago)

the fact people are still calling it love juice just makes me not want to taste it second-hand even more. hate juice on the other hand. "YEAH LICK MY HATE JUICE! YEAAAAH!"
But yet you still haven't answered my original question.

― PinXorchiXoR (Pinkpanther), Monday, 1 November 2004 16:38 (twenty years ago)

Ughhhhhh guys I have a strained tongue muscle

― LE CHUCK!™ (ex machina), Monday, 1 November 2004 16:39 (twenty years ago)

"I just can't understand anyone that would be so adverse to kissing someone that had just gone down on them! I mean wtf?!! It's your love juice mutha fucka!"

its also my piss juice, and my ass juice, and my blood juice, etc etc, doesnt mean i want to taste those or have them in my mouth or make them part of my drinks cabinet either. theres probably a good reason by body got rid of them the first time, it doesnt need them back! (last point might not be strictly correct but im willing to accept it)

― splooge (thesplooge), Monday, 1 November 2004 16:41 (twenty years ago)

Er.

― Orbit (Orbit), Monday, 1 November 2004 16:43 (twenty years ago)

so it's ok for someone else to taste those of yours but not you.

― ken c (ken c), Monday, 1 November 2004 16:43 (twenty years ago)

Hahahahahahahahaha!
x-post

― PinXorchiXoR (Pinkpanther), Monday, 1 November 2004 16:43 (twenty years ago)

also.. wow love and piss and ASS juice and BLOOD at once! some session

― ken c (ken c), Monday, 1 November 2004 16:45 (twenty years ago)

I don't think I want to hear about that session! there are far too many things going on there that I'm not into!!

― PinXorchiXoR (Pinkpanther), Monday, 1 November 2004 16:46 (twenty years ago)

i hope no-one kisses me, for i have just thrown up a little in my mouth

― Freelance Hiveminder (blueski), Monday, 1 November 2004 16:47 (twenty years ago)

"so it's ok for someone else to taste those of yours but not you."

ummm, what? i dont *want* someone to drink my piss/ass/rectal/blood/sweat juice. cum juice on the other hand, im fine with someone relieving me of. and vice versa, im not a selfish sort. i just dont like my girl kissing me after shes done the deed, and i dont like kising her either (rather, she doesnt like kissing me) after ive gone down on her. on the other hand, the other day, after we both went down on each other, neither of us minded kissing.

im feeling weird talking about this. plus the fact im talking about piss juice isnt helping since im drinking apple juice right now isnt too great either.

― splooge (thesplooge), Monday, 1 November 2004 16:47 (twenty years ago)

I should have never read this thread before lunch.

― MindInRewind (Barry Bruner), Monday, 1 November 2004 16:48 (twenty years ago)

"My milkshake brings all the boys to the yard".

― B.A.R.M.S. (Barima), Monday, 1 November 2004 16:51 (twenty years ago)

I don't tend to use a WHOLE LOT of tongue.

And refusing to kiss someone afterward is just plain rude.

― battlin' green eyeshades (Homosexual II), Monday, 1 November 2004 16:51 (twenty years ago)

When I was about 17, I kissed a girl who, unbeknownst to be, had had someone else's naughty bits in her mouth a matter of minutes earlier. She was hot, later in the night I went and proudly told my friends, and I was very confused indeed when they collapsed into uncontrollable fits of laughter and tears.

This is probably the most Mark C thing that has ever happened to me.

― Matt DC (Matt DC), Monday, 1 November 2004 16:52 (twenty years ago)

"My pissshake brings all the boys to the yard"

― The Ghost of Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Monday, 1 November 2004 16:52 (twenty years ago)

the C is not for cockbreath

― Freelance Hiveminder (blueski), Monday, 1 November 2004 16:53 (twenty years ago)

fair enough. i guess feeling is not always logical

xxxxxxpost

― ken c (ken c), Monday, 1 November 2004 16:53 (twenty years ago)

Jeez, if you've got love juice on your face how hard is it to at least wipe your face with your hand or a nearby towel before kissing them again? It takes two seconds.

― MindInRewind (Barry Bruner), Monday, 1 November 2004 16:55 (twenty years ago)

And refusing to kiss someone afterward is just plain rude.

Yup.

― Michael White (Hereward), Monday, 1 November 2004 16:57 (twenty years ago)

Having said that, I often do surreptitiously wipe excess vulva nectar on the lady's thigh during post-orgasmic nuzzling.

― Michael White (Hereward), Monday, 1 November 2004 16:59 (twenty years ago)

I cannot believe someone has just used the phrase 'vulva nectar'.

― Matt DC (Matt DC), Monday, 1 November 2004 17:00 (twenty years ago)

hmmmm, im starting to feel quite bad about my no kissing rule. i got nothing against wiping my face or their face but theres still the problem with the mouth itself.

― splooge (thesplooge), Monday, 1 November 2004 17:01 (twenty years ago)

Sounds more palatable than pussy juice, surely.

xpost

― Michael White (Hereward), Monday, 1 November 2004 17:02 (twenty years ago)

Every phrase used so far on this thread to describe it has been disgusting, I don't see how "vulva nectar" is wholly out of place here.

― Allyzay Science Explosion (allyzay), Monday, 1 November 2004 17:04 (twenty years ago)

DUDE, WHY DOES IT MATTER WHICH WARM WET ORIFICE YOU'RE STICKING YOUR TONGUE INTO??

― Markelby (Mark C), Monday, 1 November 2004 17:05 (twenty years ago)

it's good cos it rhymes a little

― ken c (ken c), Monday, 1 November 2004 17:05 (twenty years ago)

I read somewhere that the mouth is the far filthier orifice.

― Allyzay Science Explosion (allyzay), Monday, 1 November 2004 17:06 (twenty years ago)

DUDE, WHY DOES IT MATTER WHICH WARM WET ORIFICE YOU'RE STICKING YOUR TONGUE INTO??

same question for which one to talk out of.

― ken c (ken c), Monday, 1 November 2004 17:06 (twenty years ago)

xpost

― ken c (ken c), Monday, 1 November 2004 17:07 (twenty years ago)

I read somewhere that the mouth is the far filthier orifice.

By far.

― Michael White (Hereward), Monday, 1 November 2004 17:08 (twenty years ago)

I am a bit no-tonguesy with kissing, but I don't see kissing with tongues as "properly". You can have passion without tongues.

― Cathy (Cathy), Monday, 1 November 2004 17:11 (twenty years ago)

OTM. being passionate is not alwyas about how far (or into how many different places) you can stick your tongue into somebody else.

― ken c (ken c), Monday, 1 November 2004 17:13 (twenty years ago)

"DUDE, WHY DOES IT MATTER WHICH WARM WET ORIFICE YOU'RE STICKING YOUR TONGUE INTO??
same question for which one to talk out of."

sorry ken, had no idea my personal habits were so offensive to you. i wont even bother kissing the normal way anymore, ill do it all from where the 'vulva nectar' springs forth.

― splooge (thesplooge), Monday, 1 November 2004 17:18 (twenty years ago)

that wasn't directed at you splooge! :-( (or anybody in particular)

― ken c (ken c), Monday, 1 November 2004 17:19 (twenty years ago)

oh ok, im still gonna only stick my tongue in the vulva nectar palace though.

― splooge (thesplooge), Monday, 1 November 2004 17:20 (twenty years ago)

kiss whichever way you're happy with! it's actually quite rude to tell what other people how they should behave with their own partners. that wasn't my intention.

― ken c (ken c), Monday, 1 November 2004 17:21 (twenty years ago)

and i hope it's not the intention of the other folks either......

― ken c (ken c), Monday, 1 November 2004 17:24 (twenty years ago)

YOU MUST FOLLOW MY DICTATES FOR SEXUAL ORTHODOXY!!

― People's Commisar for Sexual Affairs (Hereward), Monday, 1 November 2004 17:27 (twenty years ago)

thou shalt eat jizz

― ken c (ken c), Monday, 1 November 2004 17:42 (twenty years ago)

Last girl I made out with was like this, but it was the tongue thing right away. It wasn't sexy and it wasn't fun and it wasn't sensual. I don't see why she kissed like that. All fast and repetitive? I felt like i was kissing a lizard.

― Adam Bruneau (oliver8bit), Monday, 1 November 2004 17:54 (twenty years ago)

do other people find it annoying to actually be licked around the mouth in a feverish slobbery motion as a precursor or substitute for kissing during sex? i dont like it.......

― splooge (thesplooge), Monday, 1 November 2004 18:07 (twenty years ago)

Yeah I really hate that, Splooge. Urgh.

― battlin' green eyeshades (Homosexual II), Monday, 1 November 2004 18:08 (twenty years ago)

(In what bizarro universe does "vulva" rhyme with "nectar" even a little bit?)

― The Ghost of Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Monday, 1 November 2004 18:09 (twenty years ago)

"vulvector"
Roger that captain, we're in vulvector six, in the pipe five by five.

― Forksclovetofu (Forksclovetofu), Monday, 1 November 2004 18:47 (twenty years ago)

vulvection could be a good term.

― splooge (thesplooge), Monday, 1 November 2004 18:49 (twenty years ago)

EVULVALUTION PEOPLE

― nickalicious (nickalicious), Monday, 1 November 2004 18:53 (twenty years ago)

This one time I was tore up and got took advantage of my this hairy-lipped teenage girl I was not attracted to, and, other than the photographic evidence, this is how I remember it:

1) keg stand
2) accidentally break window with steel-toe boot
3) come down too quickly, fall down stairs
4) picked up off basement floor by hairlip
5) we are in a bed somewhere
6) she is probing my entire mouth/throat cavity with her oddly long, dry tongue
8) waking up with bruises on my elbows and ass

― this post was not posted by nickalicious (nickalicious), Monday, 1 November 2004 18:56 (twenty years ago)

I managed to swear off the drink for DAYS.

― nickalicious (nickalicious), Monday, 1 November 2004 18:56 (twenty years ago)

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v296/WilliamCrump63/Peach_Nectar.gif

― the apex of nadirs (Rock Hardy), Monday, 1 November 2004 20:09 (twenty years ago)

Urgh. I may never eat peaches again.

― The Ghost of Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Monday, 1 November 2004 20:10 (twenty years ago)

It was always my goal to be my class vulvadictorian.

― Michael White (Hereward), Monday, 1 November 2004 20:12 (twenty years ago)

I will ALWAYS eat peaches again.

― nickalicious (nickalicious), Monday, 1 November 2004 20:13 (twenty years ago)

"Premium Quality"!

― the apex of nadirs (Rock Hardy), Monday, 1 November 2004 20:14 (twenty years ago)

"1 Litre"!

― the apex of nadirs (Rock Hardy), Monday, 1 November 2004 20:15 (twenty years ago)

Woman Bits

― The Ghost of Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Monday, 1 November 2004 20:16 (twenty years ago)

I went to a big blacktie ball thing back in May of this year, 2manydjs and the Ratpure were playing, and obviously I was ignorantly drunk at it, as is the habit at these things. Anyway I remember being at a party in an early house until 11 or so the next morning, when I ran out of money and left to find an ATM. The nearest one was in a massive shopping centre, in one of Dublin's main shopping streets, so I had to go there.

I can only imagine how funny and incongruous a completely buckled bug-eyed dude in a tuxedo looked in the middle of the shopping centre queuing for the ATM.

Anyway the next thing I remember I was outside a pub, far away from there on the other side of the city, drinking with these people who for a while I presumed were my friends. It then transpired I didn't actually know any of them, but I had met one girl from their group in the early house. This was at about 2 in the afternoon.

Then there's another big gap until, at around 7 in the evening, I woke with a start and when I opened my eyes I was on my bus and it was just coming up to my stop! it was so weird.

― Ronan (Ronan), Monday, 1 November 2004 20:16 (twenty years ago)

There is a curious lack of kissing in that story.

― The Ghost of Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Monday, 1 November 2004 20:17 (twenty years ago)

wtf???? i meant to post that on the other thread.

still it brings much needed humanity to this one.

― Ronan (Ronan), Monday, 1 November 2004 20:17 (twenty years ago)

I'm not arsed copying and pasting it. it's not that good a story.

― Ronan (Ronan), Monday, 1 November 2004 20:18 (twenty years ago)

haha the humanity of getting monged and not remembering a thing!

― ken c (ken c), Monday, 1 November 2004 20:23 (twenty years ago)

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