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I have a problem with one of my neighbours, which might be getting serious.

Our house is back to back w/another house. The woman who lives behind us is ok, a decent person. Her son is the problem. She goes out, I think she works shifts. At the weekend, if she's out, he has recently taken to bringing some of his friends home after midnight. They crank up the music, waking me, my wife, once or twice my son up. I bang on the wall, and 'till recently, he turns it down/off. Last week, the music cranks up again, so at 1.30 am, I bang on the wall. He turns it down a little bit. I go round and bang on the door. He comes out, stoned as fuck. "oh, I'm really sorry, me and my mates heard you banging on the wall, and we sat down and thought about it". We sat down and thought about it. I fucking lost it, and at one point, I got a bit physical w/the guy. (I didn't actually hit him, but I got hold of him) I went back to bed, but I was so steamed up that I couldn't sleep. He chased his mates out about 10 mins later. All week, I've been worrying about a repeat performance. Saturday night, I've just got back from playing a gig, when we hear him climbing up their roof. He does this from time to time - he forgets his keys, so he climbs up the roof, and climbs in through an upstairs window. Jill phones me up to-day, apparently in doing so the other night, he has torn some of the flashing off our wall, which backs onto their roof. A few weeks ago, he climbed up the roof w/all his mates, cranked up the music, and when I went and banged on the door, they all slid down the roof again. Clearly, I am going to have to tell the woman about all this, as I'm sure she doesn't know that all of this is happening - he always has his mates out before she gets back. The guy, btw is about 30. Old enough to know better? What am I going to say to the woman? This is really fucking me up, and affecting my life.

Pashmina (Pashmina), Monday, 1 November 2004 14:17 (twenty years ago) link

I am surprised, that you haven't, already, told his mother and, I would think, he is, too.

RJG (RJG), Monday, 1 November 2004 14:20 (twenty years ago) link

Definitely tell his mother or just call the police!!

PinXorchiXoR (Pinkpanther), Monday, 1 November 2004 14:23 (twenty years ago) link

Set bear traps on the roof also.

dave225 (Dave225), Monday, 1 November 2004 14:26 (twenty years ago) link

I figure whatever else I do, I'm going to put anti-vandal paint on the flashing. It's very unsightly, but wtf else can I do.

Pashmina (Pashmina), Monday, 1 November 2004 14:28 (twenty years ago) link

Buy a shotgun. You don't even need to buy any shells. Just show up at his door holding it. He'll change his ways pronto.

Failing that. Talk to his mother.

Alex in NYC (vassifer), Monday, 1 November 2004 14:40 (twenty years ago) link

And 30 is definetely old enough to know better. Living with his Mom at 30? Problems there, surely.

Alex in NYC (vassifer), Monday, 1 November 2004 14:41 (twenty years ago) link

He's probably the dickhead that I work with (or someone very much like him).

Leon Czolgosz (Nicole), Monday, 1 November 2004 14:43 (twenty years ago) link

As far as I can work out, he's basically the worst sort of lifestyle stoner, and he's just sponging off her. That's not my problem, though, so obviously, I'm not going to mention that, just the music and the climbing up the roof.

Pashmina (Pashmina), Monday, 1 November 2004 14:47 (twenty years ago) link

This is in no way a relevant factor, but just out of curiousity, what sort of music is he blasting?

Alex in NYC (vassifer), Monday, 1 November 2004 15:22 (twenty years ago) link

this is in no way a relevant factor but, just out of curiosity, what sort of music is he blasting?

RJG (RJG), Monday, 1 November 2004 15:24 (twenty years ago) link

crosspost

RJG (RJG), Monday, 1 November 2004 15:25 (twenty years ago) link

I meant "this isn't, in any way, a relevant factor...", anyway

RJG (RJG), Monday, 1 November 2004 15:26 (twenty years ago) link

?

Alex in NYC (vassifer), Monday, 1 November 2004 15:27 (twenty years ago) link

I know.

RJG (RJG), Monday, 1 November 2004 15:28 (twenty years ago) link

Was that a genuine x-post? I thought he was just correcting the spelling or something.

Two-Headed Zombie With No Face (kate), Monday, 1 November 2004 15:29 (twenty years ago) link

What did I spell incorrectly?

Alex in NYC (vassifer), Monday, 1 November 2004 15:31 (twenty years ago) link

Curiosity.

Liz :x (Liz :x), Monday, 1 November 2004 15:38 (twenty years ago) link

I wouldn't have noticed that, if you hadn't pointed it out.

RJG (RJG), Monday, 1 November 2004 15:40 (twenty years ago) link

and Alex not enough commas!

Ste (Fuzzy), Monday, 1 November 2004 15:41 (twenty years ago) link

Ah, you're right. Apologies.

and Alex not enough commas!

This is wrong. There is the correct number of commas there.

Alex in NYC (vassifer), Monday, 1 November 2004 15:47 (twenty years ago) link

30??? It sounded like you were describing an 18 year old!!!

Thermo Thinwall (Thermo Thinwall), Monday, 1 November 2004 15:54 (twenty years ago) link

Wow, did you both phrase the question in the same way?

He's playing coldplay-type music, droning singing, acoustic guitars, strings. He's playing it loud enough that I can hear the hi hats. I guess it's not as bad as techno. Techno is the most antisocial music you can play if you live near other people, but it doesn';t really matter whet the music is, I guess.
He's all the gentle stoner-philosopher when you talk to him, that's his act. He tries to come across all knowing and worldly-wise, which is why I fucking lost it w/him last time. In reality, he's as thick as shit, a thoughtless, selfish lazy prick. I fucking hate him, and I wish he was dead.

Pashmina (Pashmina), Monday, 1 November 2004 15:54 (twenty years ago) link

I wasn't really picking, on your spelling, alex.

: /

RJG (RJG), Monday, 1 November 2004 15:55 (twenty years ago) link

He's playing coldplay-type music

That makes things even worse.

Leon Czolgosz (Nicole), Monday, 1 November 2004 15:55 (twenty years ago) link

sorry i meant mispositioning of comma.

Ste (Fuzzy), Monday, 1 November 2004 15:56 (twenty years ago) link

nobody ever plays unreasonably loud music that you actually like - it's Bard's Law or something

Freelance Hiveminder (blueski), Monday, 1 November 2004 15:58 (twenty years ago) link

Even if you liked it, you wouldn't want to hear it at 2am.

Pashmina (Pashmina), Monday, 1 November 2004 16:01 (twenty years ago) link

Our neighbour does this, but he also sings aswell! hah

PinXorchiXoR (Pinkpanther), Monday, 1 November 2004 16:01 (twenty years ago) link

three months pass...
OK, update time.

I was going to tell they guy's mother about this, and I wasn't looking forward to it at all. I was cycling up our street on the way from work, shortly after I first posted about this, when I passed stoner boy/man and he got all apologetic, oh, I've been such a selfish cunt, he said, and so on. For a while, he's been quiet.

Unfortunately, the neighbours on the other side have taken up the baton since christmas. Coming home w/friends on fri night/sat morning, or sat night/sun morning, and cranking up club music. After they'd done it a couple of weeks on the trot, I went and banged on their door, they were pretty obnoxious & confrontational. They blamed the guy from round the back for the previous week's noise (it was them, I checked both houses) and the guy from round the back was going into the house, and heard them, and there was an argument. That was, like 4 weeks ago. Every weekend, between 11.30 and 1.30, I lie awake at night, fuckign worrying and obsessing. When's it going to start? I've phoned the police a couple of times, and wrote down incicdent numbers.

Last night, I hear the bus pull up outside our house at 12.15 am. A bunch of noisy people get off, and my heart sinks. It's the guy from round the back (who's 43, I found out) w/a bunch of people. In the house they go, and the fucking music comes blasting through the walls. I call the police, who turn up pretty quickly, they turn the music down, but they're otherwise very noisy, lots of banging and shouting. It doesn't quieten down 'till 3.30am. Last night, I basically didn't sleep at all.

So, we're going to see they guy's mother today. From hereon, the minute I hear loud music from either house, I'm going to go and check where it's coming from, then phoning the police. On monday I'm phoning the local environmental health department to see what the procedure for further action is, and what that further action will be. The people next door, next time I hear anything from them, I'm getting in touch w/their landlord. Unfortunately, motherfucker round the back does not have a landlord - his mother owns the place.

I hate these people so much you wouldn't believe it.

We are thinking about trying to move house, maybe trying to move into a semi or a detached house, even a detached bungalow, even though my wife hates bungalows.

This is really ruining my life at the moment. I'm really, really down and depressed about it. I just don't know what to do.

Pashmina (Pashmina), Sunday, 27 February 2005 11:35 (nineteen years ago) link

sorry, he's 34, not 43.

Pashmina (Pashmina), Sunday, 27 February 2005 11:36 (nineteen years ago) link

Basically, I'm going to have to do this the proper/official way, because if I get my hands on this guy, I could quite possibly murder him.

Pashmina (Pashmina), Sunday, 27 February 2005 11:39 (nineteen years ago) link

Oh man, I've been down this road. Luckily the main perpetrators moved out, but it was getting to the point where we were going to move or I was going to throw a brick threw their window. When you've never experienced this kind of thing it's hard to understand how stressful and frustrating it can be, but once you've been through it, you never forget. It makes life a complete fucking misery.

kate/baby loves headrub (papa november), Sunday, 27 February 2005 11:42 (nineteen years ago) link

oops i mean through

kate/baby loves headrub (papa november), Sunday, 27 February 2005 11:44 (nineteen years ago) link

escalating argt w.neighbours can be incredibly stressful — we had a run-in w.ours when we were having building works done (which wz a mixture of their unreasonableness — demanding we get a leaking downpipe fixed asap but then making all kinds of last-minute conditions which delayed stuff — and the builders' error: they positioned a scaffolding leg 6 inches into the neighbours territoryu, breakin the agreement)

in the end it worked out ok for us cz the builders paid up — or rather, didn't contest when we subtracted the neighbours costs from their bill — but basically the neighbours got a bunch of free roof repair during the "making good" phase, plus free money on top

i have gone from thinking of her esp. as a slightly brittle fussy old busybody to a freeloader

(but when i think of my surges of anxiety in the situation, and put myself in her place — our block is eight flats, she just has a little house abutting on it, we dwarf her — i can imagine she got pretty bent out of shape anxiety-wise also: she is totally a worrier) (ie i think ours WAS more of a six of one half a dozen of the other — but i can only see that now the building works are LONG over)

"englishman's home is his castle" = border-dispute tends to turn into medieval war

mark s (mark s), Sunday, 27 February 2005 11:50 (nineteen years ago) link

The guy's mother appears to be away. Generally speaking, one would assume that people would grow out of the whole "let's party while the parents are away" by the time they reaced 20, at the latest. I haven't knocked on the guy's door, because I can't trust myself not to fucking hospitalise him if he gives me any of his idiotic bullshit stoner-philosopher talk.

We went out for a walk, and both noticed something that's been niggling for a year or so - the place where we live has really fucking gone downhill in the last few years. When we moved here, it was this little backwater and most of the people who lived here were elderly. 12 years on, most of the old folk have died off, and the place has become a sought-after residential area for young couples first homes. House values have tripled, and even quadrupled in that time, and most of that value seems to have gone on in the last 4-5years. Paradoxically, this place is turning into a fucking shithole. there used to be almost no cars around, and the place was quiet, now there are over 100 cars parked round the back of out block, more cars than houses, I suspect, and a lot of them are hot hatches, wrxs etc. People use the place as a racetrack. Around about midnight, it's like a rush hour, plus people pull out of the side road beside our house w/wheelspins, burning rubber etc all day long. The field round the back is all chewed up w/tyre tracks. Noice pollution shit like I've been dealing w/would have been unheard of 7-8 years ago. Something kicks off about once every week-10days on the bus home, fights, blazing rows. What the fuck? An upside to this place is that the school is good, so we really need to stay here 'till Adam has finished his education (10-12 years) though not necessarily in this fucking house. I used to love living here, now I'm actually feeling pretty close to despair.

Pashmina (Pashmina), Sunday, 27 February 2005 15:27 (nineteen years ago) link

Basically, we should have sold up and moved somewhere else 3 years ago, but how were we to know?

Pashmina (Pashmina), Sunday, 27 February 2005 15:30 (nineteen years ago) link

Jill heard people going back into the house, so
i went round. he was in the yard. He started getting all apologetic, the same shit he's come out with before. I told him I needed to speak to his mother. He first said she wasn't in, and then started getting aggressive. She heard the raised voices and came to the door. It was probably not very fruitful. she was OK, but he went off the deep end. he acts, as I've seen before, just like an adolescent. he tries to blame everyone else. I'm sure he'll do it again. This is not even considering the other neighbours. He went on about how him and his friends have parties at other people's houses, and no-one complains. Therefore, I suppose, that makes me the "wrong" one. I guess it's never occurred to him that the other neighbours might be scared. I'm not scared of him, but I have this terrible feeling of approaching violence.
she briefly mentioned, when she was shouting at him, someone else complaining about him.

I feel like I'm in hell. Again, I just don't know what to do.

Pashmina (Pashmina), Sunday, 27 February 2005 18:17 (nineteen years ago) link

god people are such dicks. i sued to live with some people that would just have massive parties basicvally everyday, and when this neighbour came round someone told her to fuck off or something. wtf? a lot of people i know have this way of justifying making shit loads of noise and life a misery, and get angry fi someone says that its not ok actually. fucks sake, its unbelieveable. i feel really sorry fo u pashmina, after all i went thru the same thing, except i was living in the same house! uder the room where tracne wpould come out 24-7 literally. i would lie awake for 7/8 hrs after goign to bed. by 7 am i would put some jazz on my headphones and crank it up as loud as possible to drown it out, obviously doesnt work.

this guy soudns like a fucking imbecile. what about an ASBO? how does that come about?

ambrose (ambrose), Sunday, 27 February 2005 18:41 (nineteen years ago) link

MOVE TO THE SUBURBS ALREADY

The Argunaut (sexyDancer), Sunday, 27 February 2005 18:44 (nineteen years ago) link

We're sort of in the suburbs, it's an old mining village that's become a commuter town.

We (Jill and Me)talked about it 1/2 an hour ago. I'm going to attempt to take on a second job, and work my ass off, and then we're going to move, hopefully in 3ys or less? these people have driven us out of our home.

Pashmina (Pashmina), Sunday, 27 February 2005 19:44 (nineteen years ago) link

OK that's not really the suburbs, I know.

I can see why gated communities are appealing now.

Thanks Ambrose. (&everyone else)

Pashmina (Pashmina), Sunday, 27 February 2005 19:47 (nineteen years ago) link

this is why buying a house gives me the phear. :(

teeny (teeny), Sunday, 27 February 2005 19:49 (nineteen years ago) link

Buy detached, Teeny. Detached and remote, preferably. (thanks very much for removing the dup post btw)

Pashmina (Pashmina), Sunday, 27 February 2005 20:09 (nineteen years ago) link

I just emailed a friend who is an electrical contractor, and asked about the possibility of doing some part-time work for him. Now I've actually done s.th. to hopefully extricate my little family from this fucked up mess, I feel a little better.

Hopfully when we sell the place, it'll be to a total fucking psychopath w/a a black belt and a shotgun.

Pashmina (Pashmina), Sunday, 27 February 2005 20:12 (nineteen years ago) link

im sure there must be more you can do to put an end to this guys activitiesm, as opposed to reducing your exposure to it (ie moving out). You have got to contact the police. First notify the mother that under the circumstances (ie of no change in his behaviour) you are going to be forced to take legal action. IT will lead to inevitable breakdown in relations, but you shouldnt have to move. Im sure that in similar cases the police have done somethign to curb such behaviour, and in any case from your description these dont seem the sort of people that want to go through legal process to defend their right to keep you awake all night. Have you called the police yet? Do so, and get down the Citizens Advice Bureau when you get a chance. Get some legal advice on your position. Even if you feel that such a cours of aciton would be fruitless, it is more positive than planning to reposition your life around gettnig away. and, as you said, if nothing is done, then this dick is just goign to carry on and annoy the next people to live next door.

ambrose (ambrose), Monday, 28 February 2005 00:38 (nineteen years ago) link

I phoned the noise pollution dept at the local council, and gave them a detailed summary of the problems. They're phoning me back in a couple of days. Feeling really low and uptight.

As far as moving goes, this episode has opened my eyes to the state of our neighbourhood, as mentioned above. I really don't want to live here anymore.

My friend emailed me back, there is some possibility of work from him, so, you know... We'll see.

Pashmina (Pashmina), Monday, 28 February 2005 12:07 (nineteen years ago) link

Norm - please don't let this get you too down. From yr description of the locale, I think you're right to make plans to get out, but meantime this is what I would suggest...

I have a little bit of experience here, as a member of my family was similarly bedevilled by noize probs.

1)Don't speak to them anymore - you have asked them to stop and they haven't.

2)Write every incident down with exact times and dates

3)Ask the council for recording equipment to be brought to provide a measurement of the actual level. They can also leave equipment with you for you to use. They will also send someone out to witness the noise.

4)After this they will write to them threatening prosecution. They will most likely ignore, so at this point the police will probably get involved.

As Ambrose says, get independant advice about what *should* happen, so that you can make sure that the council and the police are doing what they ought to.

(Alternative strategy - rig up all yr synths through HUGE P.A to create v.v. loud PROGDRONE which is directed at their house. Bricks and mortar crumble! hot hatches burst into flames! bowels rupture! eyeballs pop!)

Dr. C (Dr. C), Monday, 28 February 2005 13:12 (nineteen years ago) link

Kids can sleep through anything. So can adults. Even if a sudden change in noise level (silent to loud *or* loud to silent) wakes you, you can go back to sleep.

You only get annoyed by something if you choose to be annoyed by it.

Get over it! This "OMG the neighbours make noise and now my life is DESTROYED and I'm DEPRESSED and ALL FUCKED UP" thing is the biggest wank I've ever heard.

Your life is only crap because you are choosing to allow it to be so. What a pathetic excuse.

toraneko (toraneko), Monday, 28 February 2005 13:43 (nineteen years ago) link

Aw, Toraneko, that's not fair. Pash is a very patient guy in general.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 28 February 2005 13:48 (nineteen years ago) link

Fuck fair, destroying your own life, and possibly that of your family through your own stress, angst and bad vibes, is stupid.

Also, being patient implies that you are *waiting* for a particular outcome. Tolerance would be more useful in this situation.

toraneko (toraneko), Monday, 28 February 2005 13:51 (nineteen years ago) link

You ignorant fuckwit toraneko. To accuse Pash of wilfully creating stress/angst etc is idiotic. Everyone deserves to have *reasonable* peace and quiet at night.

Dr. C (Dr. C), Monday, 28 February 2005 14:02 (nineteen years ago) link

Perhaps she's just pissed, Doc. She's never made such ignorant comments before. Difference is, she'll be able to sleep on it.

Markelby (Mark C), Monday, 28 February 2005 14:07 (nineteen years ago) link

Ivor Cutler to thread.

D. Flute, Monday, 28 February 2005 14:13 (nineteen years ago) link

http://www.noiseabatementsociety.com/hoc-awards2003.php

D. Flute, Monday, 28 February 2005 14:15 (nineteen years ago) link

I have a right not to be regularly woken up after midnight in my own home, Toraneko. The other people's rights stop when the reach the adjoining wall. They are not entitled to do this, and it's not OK. Have you ever been in this situation?

Pashmina (Pashmina), Monday, 28 February 2005 14:32 (nineteen years ago) link

yeah toraneko OTM and by that i mean "off the money"

djdee (djdee2005), Monday, 28 February 2005 14:36 (nineteen years ago) link

I hope Toraneko never moves next door to me. I work shifts and sleep disruption is the number one hassle of doing so, so I really feel for you Norman.

I know it makes you blood boil, but step back, count to ten, try not to get too stressed (easier said than done, I know) and avoid any unnecessary confrontation. The advice Dr C has give is OTM, whatever happens now, play it by the book, let the authorities deal with it, it's their duty and responsibility to investigate it.

Billy Dods (Billy Dods), Monday, 28 February 2005 17:01 (nineteen years ago) link

Losing sleep is such a fundamentally depressing thing - being awake when you don't want to be can be extraordinarily upsetting. Some sounds are also much more difficult than others to ignore - I spent one night when I had to share a room absolutely awake because I could hear him and his girlfriend whispering super-quietly. But the slightest whisper was enough.

Markelby (Mark C), Monday, 28 February 2005 17:04 (nineteen years ago) link

four months pass...
It's my turn now.

The Neighbours From Hell have escalated from having a loud party out in the garden every few months to doing it every weekend.

This past weekend was particularly bad - they were out until 2am on Saturday night, playing music in the garden really loud, bellowing along, shouting at one another at the tops of their voices.

You'd think they'd be too hungover to make much of a noise on Sunday night, wouldn't you? NO! They were out again last night until well after midnight, shouting and bellowing and making a racket until well after midnight.

I've left notes (we asked them to turn their music down the first time they did this, last year, and were greeted with verbal abuse and threats of violence for out trouble). I've called the Noise Nuisance hotline for the Council. My housemate is trying to get hold of their landlord.

I'm reaching the end of my tether. I moved out of Central London to the suburbs to GET AWAY from this kind of thing. I can't believe that any human being can be so inconsiderate and show so little respect for their neighbours. It wouldn't be so bad if they were in their own house, but they go out in the garden so the WHOLE NEIGHBOURHOOD has to be exposed to their noise. Sometimes they even have the radio on in their kitchen, turned up so loud that they can listen to it in their garden - never mind that the window for my room is CLOSER TO THAT RADIO than they are.

I don't know what else to do.

MIS Information (kate), Monday, 11 July 2005 07:33 (nineteen years ago) link

I've had about 10 hours of sleep the whole weekend long thanks to them. I'm emotionally on edge as it is, due to everything else. This has just really sent me over the edge.

MIS Information (kate), Monday, 11 July 2005 07:37 (nineteen years ago) link

http://www.noiseabatementsociety.com/hoc-awards2003.php They sound like jerks. This link may be useful.

Languid Top, Monday, 11 July 2005 09:15 (nineteen years ago) link

USE GUNS

tissp! (the impossible shortest specia), Monday, 11 July 2005 09:20 (nineteen years ago) link

My housemate wanted to get out his stereo very early the next morning and stick it on the lawn, aimed at their house, but we thought better of it (not least because we don't want to piss off everyone else on the street).

Seeing as how I'm a musician and all, I should be the worst noise pest in the world, but I'm so TERRIFIED of being loud and disturbing people that I won't even play my stereo at all after 11pm.

MIS Information (kate), Monday, 11 July 2005 09:23 (nineteen years ago) link

I'm mainly frustrated with the Council for not doing anything. What is the point of having a Noise Nuisance hotline, if you don't bother following up the calls, or sending anyone out?

MIS Information (kate), Monday, 11 July 2005 09:23 (nineteen years ago) link

Have you tried going to the environmental health people, or are they one and the same in this case?

tissp! (the impossible shortest specia), Monday, 11 July 2005 09:29 (nineteen years ago) link

Same thing. (I assume, actually I should check on Lambeth Council's website. I called the council directly first, and was given the noise nuisance line.)

MIS Information (kate), Monday, 11 July 2005 09:30 (nineteen years ago) link

This is who I contacted:

http://www.lambeth.gov.uk/Services/Environment/Pollution/NoiseControl.htm

They never bothered getting back to us. If it happens again, I'm not waiting until 1am to call, I'm calling the minute that they start up.

MIS Information (kate), Monday, 11 July 2005 09:33 (nineteen years ago) link

People can be such inconsiderate jerks, hope it gets sorted for you Kate.

Norman, what happened with your neighbours? Are they still being a nuisance or is that passed now?

Billy Dods (Billy Dods), Monday, 11 July 2005 09:41 (nineteen years ago) link

The people to one side recently moved out. Not long after I last posted on this thread, they had a party/barbecue on a Saturday when I was at work, w/music so lous that you could hear it a mile away at least. Just about everybody who lives nearby called the police, since then they'd been quiet. I felt happy when I saw the "to let" sign on the house, as you can imagine. Jill went down to see the letting agent, ands told them the whole story, and told them that we'd complain vociferously to the council and the police of the new tenants were the same. The house is currently empty.

I saw shithead's mother at the bus stop a couple of days after the argument. She was apologetic, and said it wouldn't happen again, and so far it hasn't. Last wintertime, the guy who has the allotment next to ours had a run in with shithead. His car got broken into, and there were a row of footprints leading back from the car to shithead's mother's house. Allotment man went to see shithead, shithead gave him attitude, so allotment man beat him down.

Jill spoke with shithead's mother a month or so ago, and she can't afford to run the place, because of shithead. She'll probably sell the place in a year or so. It's very sad, actually.

If he was my son, he'd have come home to find his bags packed and the locks changed years ago.

Another bunch of skeeves who live just up from us are in the process of moving out, so the place is perhaps looking up a bit at the moment.

What I have learned is this:

People who pull shit like this are inconsiderate fucktards w/massive entitlement issues, and reasoning with them is a waste of time. If you do not complain, they will escalate, like Kate's party a month turning into weekend of hell every week. If I am confronted with such issues in future, I will call the police out straightaway, write down incident numbers every time, contact the environmental health dept immediately, contact their landlords immediately if applicable, contact other local residents and see if they will do the same.

Kate, it is pointless to call the enviro health dept at midnight or 1am, you need to call during office hours, and speak to someone, describing your problems. Call the cops out on the fuckers EVERY TIME, and ask for/write down the incident/log number every time as well. Make a nuisance of yourself - hassle environmental health and their landlord/letting agents.

I feel for you about this, obv, having been in this situation. As a result of my trouble with fucking selfish morons, I have had to have anxiety management therapy. What pisses me off the most is that when I went to see the doctor, he didn't give a shit until I told him I had murderous feelings for shithead. What this tells me = I am officially worth less than the well-being of a selfish waster.

Pashmina (Pashmina), Monday, 11 July 2005 10:55 (nineteen years ago) link

I think all the "social ills" of the UK are 100% funny to me. I mean it must be balls to experience these kind of wankers, but the thought of having a noise abatement department in the USA is fucking silly. SexyDancer told you to move to the suburbs (Pashima) and you mentioned that it was not urban. This blows my mind! (Also, isn't the UK crazy for nuisance law now where people get really fucked up court orders imposed on them for "social crimes"? I'm talking out of my ass a little.) Between this, anti-immigrant hysteria and happyslapping, I am finally convinced that the UK is populated with a race of troglodyte mooks, which I formerly believed about my country, having attended a catholic grade school.

no tech! (ex machina), Monday, 11 July 2005 11:25 (nineteen years ago) link

Anyway...

Thanks for the tips, Pash. Perhaps I'll pass the details on to my housemate since he is the houseowner and see if he can get anything out of them.

MIS Information (kate), Monday, 11 July 2005 11:31 (nineteen years ago) link

(I just woke up and only slept 3 hours, apologies.)

no tech! (ex machina), Monday, 11 July 2005 11:32 (nineteen years ago) link

Oh, don't apologise! I don't see this as a "social ill", anyway, unless it's as a result of Thatcher's dictum "there is no such thing as society", perhaps. It's just some selfish shitheads who think they can do what the fuck they want, and if anyone complains when it fucks them, them up in some way, then it's the complainer who's at fault in their view.

I have never seen of experienced "happyslapping" or anti immigrant hysteria round here yet.

Pashmina (Pashmina), Monday, 11 July 2005 11:37 (nineteen years ago) link

You mean ASBOs, Jon? They're great. We should have an ILX competition for "most unique ASBO".

tissp! (the impossible shortest specia), Monday, 11 July 2005 11:40 (nineteen years ago) link

In Upstate NY, my nearest neighbour was over a mile away. I never had a problem with noise. In London, my nearest neighbour is under 10 feet away. This takes on a different dimension in how much their inconsideration and lack of respect impinges upon my life and its quality.

MIS Information (kate), Monday, 11 July 2005 11:40 (nineteen years ago) link

Jon, where I live is pretty rural, but I live in a terraced house, w/2 adjoining properties, both of which, until recenlty were occupied by shitheads.

Pashmina (Pashmina), Monday, 11 July 2005 11:44 (nineteen years ago) link

This past weekend was particularly bad - they were out until 2am on Saturday night, playing music in the garden really loud, bellowing along, shouting at one another at the tops of their voices.


Oh noes my weekend is ruined!

no tech! (ex machina), Monday, 11 July 2005 11:45 (nineteen years ago) link

Jon - GO FUCK YOURSELF.

MIS Information (kate), Monday, 11 July 2005 11:47 (nineteen years ago) link

sunday morning 7am, we left the shoreditch houseparty

sunday morning 8am, bloke with machete turns up, informing he would like the noise turned down...NOW

the approach worked. im not sure they'll be having another one for some time.

charltonlido (gareth), Monday, 11 July 2005 11:49 (nineteen years ago) link

I once asked, very politely, for some neighbours to turn the noise down.

While holding a hammer.

There is a pick axe in our back garden.

However, when I've not had a lot of sleep, I don't trust myself not to use it. (e.g. right f*cking now, for instance.)

MIS Information (kate), Monday, 11 July 2005 11:51 (nineteen years ago) link

I had a noisy upstairs neighbor. I always fantasized about writing a note that said "Shut the fuck up" and "attaching" it to his door with several axe blows.

geyser muffler and a quarter (Dave225), Monday, 11 July 2005 11:54 (nineteen years ago) link

You should've wrote it in blood, too.

tissp! (the impossible shortest specia), Monday, 11 July 2005 11:55 (nineteen years ago) link

"S4T4N S3Z SHUT TEH FUCK UP LOL" w/a pentagram. In blood.

Pashmina (Pashmina), Monday, 11 July 2005 11:57 (nineteen years ago) link

Jon - GO FUCK YOURSELF.

-- MIS Information (masonicboo...) (webmail), July 11th, 2005 8:47 AM. (kate) (later) (link

Lighten the fuck up, you old self-important hag.

Anyway, the best method to deal with this is to cut their fucking power (if you can).

no tech! (ex machina), Monday, 11 July 2005 11:59 (nineteen years ago) link

I think inviting a few friends over for some weirdness and chanting/murmuring, and have the neighbors wake up to find some bloddy meat on the door with some ashen symbols might freak them out enough to make them move.

geyser muffler and a quarter (Dave225), Monday, 11 July 2005 12:00 (nineteen years ago) link

All of this stuff is wonderful fantasy material, however, if any of it was actually done, the result would be jail for the person who is actually the victim of the assault.

Jon, remind me again why you haven't drowned in your own vomit, you walking abortion?

MIS Information (kate), Monday, 11 July 2005 12:02 (nineteen years ago) link

I think inviting a few friends over for some weirdness and chanting/murmuring, and have the neighbors wake up to find some bloddy meat on the door with some ashen symbols might freak them out enough to make them move.

Hahaha you should definitely do this. And take pictures.

tissp! (the impossible shortest specia), Monday, 11 July 2005 12:03 (nineteen years ago) link

(The funny thing is I don't even know why you hold me in such contempt? You need to lighten the fuck up.) xpost to kate

no tech! (ex machina), Monday, 11 July 2005 12:04 (nineteen years ago) link

(i.e. the noise assault. I have had 10 hours of sleep in the past 3 days, and I'm at an emotional complete loose end and neither thinking nor typing straight.)

x-post

MIS Information (kate), Monday, 11 July 2005 12:04 (nineteen years ago) link

my nutnut great uncle attached a note to his neigbors' door with a giant carving knife. if nothing else, this kind of thing shows that you mean business.

lauren (laurenp), Monday, 11 July 2005 12:04 (nineteen years ago) link

I sympathise with Kate, but then I was in no real mood to hear loud, CRAP music (because it's always crap when it's coming from your neighbours, see also booming car stereos - I might not mind if it was stuff I actually liked but no, never) last weekend, considering the mood many of us are in.

I guess letting your neighbours know you're planning on a party is no good as the neighbours will probably object in advance anyway - still it would be courteous to give warning before inflicting your rubbish music on others, in many cases. People are selfish eh?

Sociah T Azzahole (blueski), Monday, 11 July 2005 12:05 (nineteen years ago) link

Honestly, if it were a party every few months or so - even maybe once a month during the summer - I would be fine with being given advance warning. (the neighbours on the other side have done exactly that.)

These people do it EVERY FREAKING WEEKEND at this point.

I don't think it even crosses their mind that they might be doing something which others might object to - as evidenced by the first time it happened last year, when not just myself, but two other neighbours, separately, asked them to turn the noise down, and were ignored at best, and threatened at worst.

MIS Information (kate), Monday, 11 July 2005 12:08 (nineteen years ago) link

the problem is that people who make repeated "anti-social" violations after they've been politely requested to stop by their neighbours are not generally the type to give a shit about the feelings of others or respond in a courteous manner to complaints made.

that's where the machete comes in.

lauren (laurenp), Monday, 11 July 2005 12:11 (nineteen years ago) link

I think you are TOO OLD and HATE FUN. Parties every weekend! Oh no!!! Next thing you know, they'll be staying up to watch the eleven o'clock movie..... ON A SCHOOLNIGHT, PEOPLE!!!

xpost to kate

no tech! (ex machina), Monday, 11 July 2005 12:12 (nineteen years ago) link

Deep breath, count to ten, walk away, if you lose your temper, the assholes win.

Deep breath, count to ten.

Deep breath.

MIS Information (kate), Monday, 11 July 2005 12:14 (nineteen years ago) link

http://www.noiseabatementsociety.com/images/2003winners.jpg

Which one are you?

no tech! (ex machina), Monday, 11 July 2005 12:15 (nineteen years ago) link

There's only one lady, silly me!

no tech! (ex machina), Monday, 11 July 2005 12:15 (nineteen years ago) link

jon, fuck off.

Ed (dali), Monday, 11 July 2005 12:16 (nineteen years ago) link

The wagon train of self-rightous Britishes circles up....

no tech! (ex machina), Monday, 11 July 2005 12:18 (nineteen years ago) link

Not everyone gets to sleep in on the weekend, Jon, and might need to get to sleep before 2 am.

tokyo nursery school: afternoon session (rosemary), Monday, 11 July 2005 12:19 (nineteen years ago) link

Not everyone gets to sleep in on the weekend, Jon, and might need to get to sleep before 2 am.

Yes, but why should we have to change for you? I think it is a "community standard" that people should be given more leeway for noise on a weekend.

no tech! (ex machina), Monday, 11 July 2005 12:20 (nineteen years ago) link

Only if their music is good.

Sociah T Azzahole (blueski), Monday, 11 July 2005 12:22 (nineteen years ago) link

Which it never is.

Sociah T Azzahole (blueski), Monday, 11 July 2005 12:22 (nineteen years ago) link

There is a reason that people move to the suburbs. Cause we are old and we hate fun and we want quiet at night. When the community is a residential neighbourhood, of families and working people, it is not unreasonable to expect some respect and consideration.

Like it's not unreasonable to expect that a thread requesting genuine helpful advice will continue on a helpful tone and not degenerate into trolling and spamming.

MIS Information (kate), Monday, 11 July 2005 12:22 (nineteen years ago) link

I don't really think of Streatham as the suburbs!

Sociah T Azzahole (blueski), Monday, 11 July 2005 12:26 (nineteen years ago) link

oh god. this hippy trance oxford student fuck used to live opposite me. i'd have to go over at 4 in the morn to tell him to pipe down his goth-dance bullshit, and get fucked with in return. sorely deserved an icepick in the face. glad i moved out or it would have come to blows.

N_RQ, Monday, 11 July 2005 12:27 (nineteen years ago) link

Suburbs or not, it's a residential street in a family neighbourhood. It's not a student neighbourhood or a party pen. There is ONE HOUSEHOLD of people disturbing an entire street of people. No one else on the street behaves like this.

MIS Information (kate), Monday, 11 July 2005 12:30 (nineteen years ago) link

I went to a student house party in Bromley once on a Friday night. People had spilled out into the driveway. On one side of the house was a railway but on the other a joined house. A woman in her 30s came out and politely asked us to keep the noise down as her and her baby were trying to sleep. How the hell do you argue with that? I didn't wanna be there anyway and it was a laaame party so respect to her for calling us out, and I felt sorry for her. Even if it had been a Saturday night I think she was within her right. You don't just assume it's cool to have a late night party where you live regardless of your neighbours situations imo. This was well and truly suburbia though.

Sociah T Azzahole (blueski), Monday, 11 July 2005 12:34 (nineteen years ago) link

noise is noise. even when i was a student, i didn't necessarily want horrible hippy trance being blasted in during the small hours. i don't know what a student neighbourhood is really (quite often in suburbia, i would have thought), though growing up in cambridge i remember students coming to MY house to tell ME to keep it down.

N_RQ, Monday, 11 July 2005 12:36 (nineteen years ago) link

It took a long time for Dr Vick and I to convince Mark that anything south of the river constituted "part of London"!

I can't say I get much noise disturbance in the bit of Streatham I live in, but then I'm in the "nice" bit up by the Common/Rookery. George Galloway apparently owns a house about three streets away from me, but I've never seen him anywhere in SW16 or indeed SW-anywhere.

Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Monday, 11 July 2005 12:36 (nineteen years ago) link

Gareth, I hope these thoughtless fuckers who have house parties till 7am aren't your friends.

(on the other hand, they live in Shoreditch, so maybe any of their neighbours who haven't lived there more than a decade deserve every last decibel)

Markelby (Mark C), Monday, 11 July 2005 12:47 (nineteen years ago) link

This past weekend was particularly bad - they were out until 2am on Saturday night, playing music in the garden really loud, bellowing along, shouting at one another at the tops of their voices

The exact same thing happened to me on Saturday, but I didn't make a big deal about it because it was a Saturday night. I guess if I had to work this weekend I would have been pissed, but under the circumstances it was just a little annoying.

Leon C. (Ex Leon), Monday, 11 July 2005 12:51 (nineteen years ago) link

In Shoreditch people bang on your wall if you're being too quiet. Oh yeah, the party never stops in Sho'diz.

Sociah T Azzahole (blueski), Monday, 11 July 2005 12:56 (nineteen years ago) link

Can I belatedly add a ;) to my post - I meant it much more playfully than it's come out (albeit many a true word etc.)

Markelby (Mark C), Monday, 11 July 2005 12:59 (nineteen years ago) link

(I kind of don't understand why someone in their early 20s would bother to boggle at the idea that someone in their mid 30s would like to get some sleep on at least one weekend out of the month.)

The Ghost of Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Monday, 11 July 2005 13:00 (nineteen years ago) link

I suppose in a way it's nice that people were having parties at all last weekend.

Sociah T Azzahole (blueski), Monday, 11 July 2005 13:01 (nineteen years ago) link

i've really swung between that impulse, and the impulse to get drunk in front of news 24.

N_RQ, Monday, 11 July 2005 13:06 (nineteen years ago) link

if it's every weekend, then yes, these noizey people are being douches. like, take the party somewhere else for once. what kills me, tho, is that at my place we maybe have a party once a year, and this one crazy lady, without fail, complains, even when it's not loud! my next-door neighbors (both in their 40s, so it's not an age thing) warned me about her. apparently she calls the cops every time, but they have more important things to do since we do live on the edge of bed-stuy and whatnot. i wonder if she complains about their helicopters aka "ghetto birds" cruising the hood at 4 am?

hstencil (hstencil), Monday, 11 July 2005 13:15 (nineteen years ago) link

Well, take last night. We'd got some garden torches, the kind that charge of a day via sunlight.

We were just about to sit out in the garden last night. Glass of wine, night sky, you get the picture.

Except that next doors lad has just got a new girlfriend but hasn't discovered curtains.

Massive dud.

mark grout (mark grout), Monday, 11 July 2005 14:55 (nineteen years ago) link

You meant classic didn't you?

PinXorchiXoR (Pinkpanther), Monday, 11 July 2005 14:57 (nineteen years ago) link

Oh come on, that's the type of situation that is SO EASY to turn into a classic! All you need is a strong light and a makeshift megaphone.

The Ghost of Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Monday, 11 July 2005 14:57 (nineteen years ago) link

And cards with numbers on them, so you can hold up a score btwn 1 and 6 for performance!

Trayce (trayce), Monday, 11 July 2005 16:41 (nineteen years ago) link

Ps Jon you are being a complete tool, it isnt neccesary.

Trayce (trayce), Monday, 11 July 2005 16:41 (nineteen years ago) link

Hahahaha! "This 2.8 is from the Romanian judge!"

The Ghost of Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Monday, 11 July 2005 16:42 (nineteen years ago) link

my downstairs neighbour used to call the cops on me for WALKING too loud after 10pm!!!

s1ocki (slutsky), Monday, 11 July 2005 17:16 (nineteen years ago) link

once i knocked a stapler off my desk and onto the floor at 11pm and she called the cops!!

s1ocki (slutsky), Monday, 11 July 2005 17:17 (nineteen years ago) link

You're a menace to society.

Leon C. (Ex Leon), Monday, 11 July 2005 17:19 (nineteen years ago) link

no kidding, i did three years in solitary for that!!

s1ocki (slutsky), Monday, 11 July 2005 17:28 (nineteen years ago) link

I had upstairs neighbors who were really really annoying and a bunch of allergy ridden hippies. I lived on a hall with 3 weed dealers. Whenever someone would smoke weed or cigarettes on the hall, they would call the cops and complain about marijuana. I was woken up 5 times by fucking pigs who wouldn't take "NO GOOD NIGHT" for an answer. Fuck cops and fuck busybody neighbors.

no tech! (ex machina), Monday, 11 July 2005 17:39 (nineteen years ago) link

Dripping with sympathy.

The Ghost of Get One Sense Of Communal Responsibility (Dan Perry), Monday, 11 July 2005 17:40 (nineteen years ago) link

(I wasn't smoking weed even!)

no tech! (ex machina), Monday, 11 July 2005 17:41 (nineteen years ago) link

Hahaha! Sorry!

(You have to admit it's not clear that you weren't the one in the hallway smoking weed from that initial post. You could have been lying to AUTHORITY.)

The Ghost of Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Monday, 11 July 2005 17:43 (nineteen years ago) link

Nothing kills the mood like the neighbors working on their trucks while blasting Mexican dance hall music when you are trying to have early morning sex.

jocelyn (Jocelyn), Monday, 11 July 2005 17:49 (nineteen years ago) link

Too many BPM?

Rock Hardy (Rock Hardy), Monday, 11 July 2005 17:51 (nineteen years ago) link

I dunno, some of the mariachi bands sound like Depeche Mode.

Rufus 3000 (Mr Noodles), Monday, 11 July 2005 18:13 (nineteen years ago) link

My neighbours are currently playing music at full blast. Cyndi Lauper (Girls Just Wanna Have Fun) I can forgive, Female of the Species by Space I can't.
I want to cry.

bilblio (Celeste), Monday, 11 July 2005 20:27 (nineteen years ago) link

Now that's just cruel.

Leon C. (Ex Leon), Monday, 11 July 2005 20:29 (nineteen years ago) link

one time my downstairs neighbors had a party which was attended by a bunch of non-campus inner city gangstas. there was one fire alarm at approx. 1 am, caused by smoking, during which i made friends with one of the gangstas (he was wearing a blue velour tracksuit and gold jewelry) and watched his buddies urinate on our building. at 5:30 am, we had another fire alarm caused by someone being pushed into the fire alarm thing and breaking the glass during a GANG FIGHT. when i came downstairs there was someone speeding away in a car. a few days later i had to describe my velour tracksuited friend to the police, sorry big guy. the moral of the story is that sometimes when your neighbors are loud, an adventure happens.

caitlin oh no (caitxa1), Monday, 11 July 2005 21:28 (nineteen years ago) link

i'm usually pretty tolerant but one apt building i was in had a load of undergrads who would blast music, and people would be (loudly) coming and going from their apartment and hanging out outside (climbing the walls of the apt building and throwing baseballs through people's windows) until ... 4 or 5 AM. that's fucking unreasonable. and yet i just sort politely ran downstairs in my pjs to ask them to keep it down. what a dork. eventually we called the cops.

Amateur(ist) (Amateur(ist)), Monday, 11 July 2005 22:51 (nineteen years ago) link

Hahahahahaha "an adventure happens"!

The Ghost of Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Monday, 11 July 2005 22:52 (nineteen years ago) link

oh did i mention that this was 4 or 5 AM on a weeknight?! which may have been their spring break or something but was definitely not ours.

the nice thing is that when the cops came to clean up the worst of the debacles, we ended up meeting some of our other neighbors who were likewise irritated by the undergrads' bullshit.

Amateur(ist) (Amateur(ist)), Monday, 11 July 2005 22:52 (nineteen years ago) link

When we had problems with this back in a rough area of Essex my sister marched over there at 3AM with a fuckin mallet and threatened to cave their skulls in. After that there was no more music and they even moved out swiftly.

Hari A$hur$t (Toaster), Monday, 11 July 2005 23:10 (nineteen years ago) link

Ladies, have I got crazies?
Screaming young babies
No piece and no quiet
I got T.V.'s, saxophone playing
Groaning and straining
With the trouble and strife

cousin larry bundgee (bundgee), Monday, 11 July 2005 23:17 (nineteen years ago) link

noise mapping england

cousin larry bundgee (bundgee), Tuesday, 12 July 2005 00:37 (nineteen years ago) link

this is hilarious! this morning when jon told me how silly the british are about noise, i poo-pooed him, but now i understand. thanks jon, and british people: take a chill pill.

caitlin oh no (caitxa1), Tuesday, 12 July 2005 00:56 (nineteen years ago) link

come on, it's a relatively crowded (by North American standards, certainly) place. with everybody right next to each other, surely people need to be more considerate. besides, one loud party a month is the absolute maximum anyone should have to tolerate.

yuengling participle (rotten03), Tuesday, 12 July 2005 01:22 (nineteen years ago) link

It's hilarious until you've lived it monthes on end.

Rufus 3000 (Mr Noodles), Tuesday, 12 July 2005 01:24 (nineteen years ago) link

you know what they say - you cant control what other people do, you can only control your reaction. if yr trying to sleep just buy some freakin ear plugs.

sunny successor (i dont get dirty with the bodies once i kill 'em) (katharine), Tuesday, 12 July 2005 05:10 (nineteen years ago) link

(on the other hand, they live in Shoreditch, so maybe any of their neighbours who haven't lived there more than a decade deserve every last decibel)

haha because they've all moved the shoreditch and married all the women and stole all the jobs?

ken c (ken c), Tuesday, 12 July 2005 11:03 (nineteen years ago) link

Or buy a phone and call the cops.
(xpost)

Rufus 3000 (Mr Noodles), Tuesday, 12 July 2005 11:06 (nineteen years ago) link

hey Hari, which particular rough area of Essex?

g-kit (g-kit), Tuesday, 12 July 2005 11:12 (nineteen years ago) link

I had upstairs neighbors who were really really annoying and a bunch of allergy ridden hippies. I lived on a hall with 3 weed dealers. Whenever someone would smoke weed or cigarettes on the hall, they would call the cops and complain about marijuana. I was woken up 5 times by fucking pigs who wouldn't take "NO GOOD NIGHT" for an answer. Fuck cops and fuck busybody neighbors.

oh noes my weekend is ruined!!


(also they can't possibly be hippies if they don't like weed)

ken c (ken c), Tuesday, 12 July 2005 11:13 (nineteen years ago) link

Ken, America is full of people who privilege their food intolerances and allergies beyond any reasonable expectation. Many of them are non-smoking hippies.

suzy (suzy), Tuesday, 12 July 2005 11:55 (nineteen years ago) link

People who priviledge their vices above other people's health, classic or dud?

MIS Information (kate), Tuesday, 12 July 2005 11:56 (nineteen years ago) link

I am not British, but I live here and I get irritated with my noisy neighbours sometimes too. My theory is that the population is crowded into a relatively small country, so space is a commodity in many parts of the UK. This can make you want to protect your peace and quiet.

But it does feel like a lot of people are missing basic manners. I try to keep relatively quiet, because I know the soundproofing is crap in our building. I don't let my doors slam or run through the halls screeching or writing "drugs R here!!" on the wall when I'm drunk. I don't throw the junk mail I don't want onto the floor. (Someone did this in our building - my boyfriend was so pissed off he cleaned it up himself and it was a whole bin bag full from one flat - wanker...)

We pay a fair whack for living in the centre but sometimes it feels like we're stuck with a bunch of students.

People here can be uptight about things like fences and boundaries too. My mum was visiting and stepped into someone's drive to take a photo so she could get a better shot. The woman came out and bit her head off for daring to venture onto her property.

flats are rubbish, Tuesday, 12 July 2005 12:10 (nineteen years ago) link

agree about "flats are rubbish." in the extremely unlikely event of my making any money out of this bloody book, it'll go towards a house, and probably one a long way away from london.

Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Tuesday, 12 July 2005 12:23 (nineteen years ago) link

If you have a fucking allergy problem, don't live in a building with other people or fucking talk to people rather than fucking calling the cops on them all the fucking time because you're too chickenshit to confront someone about their problems.

And, as I said, I was not smoking weed.

no tech! (ex machina), Tuesday, 12 July 2005 12:28 (nineteen years ago) link

a great thread from all

Ronan (Ronan), Tuesday, 12 July 2005 12:33 (nineteen years ago) link

Except that next doors lad has just got a new girlfriend but hasn't discovered curtains.

Massive dud.

-- mark grout ( .....
You meant classic didn't you?
-- PinXorchiXoR ....

Oh come on, that's the type of situation that is SO EASY to turn into a classic! All you need is a strong light and a makeshift megaphone.
-- The Ghost of Dan Perry ..
And cards with numbers on them, so you can hold up a score btwn 1 and 6 for performance!
-- Trayce (

Yeah yeah, the difference being that they know! blummin exhibitionists.

mark grout (mark grout), Tuesday, 12 July 2005 12:35 (nineteen years ago) link

HI My name is kate and I am pro-censorship:

These was a reasonable thread at one point:

no tech! (ex machina), Tuesday, 12 July 2005 12:37 (nineteen years ago) link

(grout xpost)

It lacks a certain decorum.

Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Tuesday, 12 July 2005 12:37 (nineteen years ago) link

No, Jon, I'm just anti-YOU.

MIS Information (kate), Tuesday, 12 July 2005 12:38 (nineteen years ago) link

I can't take being criticized! Please delete any post that upsets me!

no tech! (ex machina), Tuesday, 12 July 2005 12:41 (nineteen years ago) link

Are you being sarcastic?

Rufus 3000 (Mr Noodles), Tuesday, 12 July 2005 13:05 (nineteen years ago) link

Not even he knows anymore.

Sociah T Azzahole (blueski), Tuesday, 12 July 2005 13:10 (nineteen years ago) link

If you have a fucking allergy problem, don't live in a building with other people or fucking talk to people rather than fucking calling the cops on them all the fucking time because you're too chickenshit to confront someone about their problems.
And, as I said, I was not smoking weed.

if you don't like cops knocking on doors, don't live in the same place as 3 drug dealers?

ken c (ken c), Tuesday, 12 July 2005 13:13 (nineteen years ago) link

what a great sentence.

Ronan (Ronan), Tuesday, 12 July 2005 13:14 (nineteen years ago) link

The sarcasm on this thread has reached such density that it may collapse in itself.

And what a fantastic moment THAT will be...

Sociah T Azzahole (blueski), Tuesday, 12 July 2005 13:23 (nineteen years ago) link

Oh do you really THINK SO?

mark grout (mark grout), Tuesday, 12 July 2005 13:29 (nineteen years ago) link

It's funny cause it's true.

Rufus 3000 (Mr Noodles), Tuesday, 12 July 2005 14:05 (nineteen years ago) link

it's funny, full stop.

ken c (ken c), Tuesday, 12 July 2005 16:15 (nineteen years ago) link

Gareth, I hope these thoughtless fuckers who have house parties till 7am aren't your friends.

Actually, they're mine ;)

From the outside, it didn't look like there were any neighbours at all. But then they were very stupid indeed to leave all the windows wide fucking open.

Matt DC (Matt DC), Tuesday, 12 July 2005 19:41 (nineteen years ago) link

Haha, in any case, I lived for a year with a brothel on one side and a mentally ill lady who screamed in the night on the other. We had some great parties.

Matt DC (Matt DC), Tuesday, 12 July 2005 19:47 (nineteen years ago) link

waking me

I misread this as wanking. Immediate reaction: stop moaning, you bastardo, he's pleasuring you! ;-)

nathalie's body's designed for two (stevie nixed), Tuesday, 12 July 2005 20:01 (nineteen years ago) link

Nothing kills the mood like the neighbors working on their trucks while blasting Mexican dance hall music when you are trying to have early morning sex.
-- jocelyn (nalra...) (webmail), July 11th, 2005 11:49 AM. (Jocelyn) (later)

This is magic.

I lived above some depraved people in Paris once who woke my ex-wife and I one night by contriving somehow to shatter their toilet. Usually they awakened us by blasting Frank Zappa and attempting to argue violently over the music. During the day, I smoked hash with them. They were bordering on being completely socially retarded but they were quaint somehow.

Until recently, the neighbor in the building abutting (and a mirror image of ours) us would stay up all night (on speed, we suspected) chattering, crying, screaming or laughing while watching TV, sometimes all of the above. She moved before we had the temerity to call a swat team.

Our new downstairs neighbor, in our 4 person TIC (essentially a co-op) is a nice, warm seeming lady. After her first night, she called to apologize for her girlfriend's dog who had, supposedly barked in the middle of the night. After less than 4 days in the place she asked my gf to (a) walk more softly (we have over 75% of the floor covered in rugs) and (b) close the door more gently when she leaves at 6:40 am. What irked me was that our previous neighbor, with whom we had conversations about sound, never heard us, and our new neighbor, who moved from the burbs, didn't give herself any time to acclimatize herself to her new environment before bitching out.

M. White (Miguelito), Tuesday, 12 July 2005 20:39 (nineteen years ago) link

Jon. jesus christ. at least half of these people couldn't sleep well right now even if they shot up with horse tranqulizers. have you been paying attention to anything?

Kim (Kim), Wednesday, 13 July 2005 02:15 (nineteen years ago) link

Jon lives in NOIZELAND where apparently no one has any sensitivity for world events or the goings on of "yoorpeens".

Trayce (trayce), Wednesday, 13 July 2005 02:20 (nineteen years ago) link

Kim, that's an interesting line of "reasoning!"


Weren't some of the "Britishes" upthread justifying their rightous middle class agnst by complaining that they lived in the "suburbs"? If so I don't know why "terror anxiety" should be any more applicable to them.

And using "terror" as a justification for inane shit is fucked up to begin with.

no tech! (ex machina), Wednesday, 13 July 2005 02:39 (nineteen years ago) link

Um Jon, people like Kate are extremely stressed because they're personal friends of Liz and are in a great deal of pain right now, and your lame "its just a bit pf PARTYING geez get a life" jibes are a bit rude in the circumstances dont you think?

Trayce (trayce), Wednesday, 13 July 2005 02:41 (nineteen years ago) link

Or did you actually have no idea what was going on?

Trayce (trayce), Wednesday, 13 July 2005 02:42 (nineteen years ago) link

Jon, it isn't "terror anxiety". please do yourself a favour, go quietly and actually read the London threads, and then perhaps make some attempt to stop embarassing yourself.

Kim (Kim), Wednesday, 13 July 2005 02:46 (nineteen years ago) link

i really don't see how any of what jon says has anything to do with the london threads.

shine headlights on me (electricsound), Wednesday, 13 July 2005 02:47 (nineteen years ago) link

He's having an unneccesary go at Kate, who has said under the circumstances she's so stressed out she needs sleep and cant get it, etc, and he's acting like she's whining over nothing!

That aside, I think saying "we have a RIGHT to be as noisy as we want on weekends, screw you guys" is kind of lameass.

Trayce (trayce), Wednesday, 13 July 2005 02:49 (nineteen years ago) link

it's as "lameass" as constantly complaining about noisy neighbors without actually doing anything about it.

cousin larry bundgee: the next generation, season two (bundgee), Wednesday, 13 July 2005 02:54 (nineteen years ago) link

zzzzzing!

tehresa (tehresa), Wednesday, 13 July 2005 02:55 (nineteen years ago) link

Not knowing what the fuck is going on is very noize. Knowing and not caring is even more noize.

Rock Hardy (Rock Hardy), Wednesday, 13 July 2005 02:56 (nineteen years ago) link

Wait, wait, hold up, so how many times did Kate call the cops?

Mike Stuchbery (Mike Stuchbery), Wednesday, 13 July 2005 02:59 (nineteen years ago) link

Trayce, Kate has made it a point to be particularly nasty to me all the time on ILX. I was not aware of any relationship between her and Liz because I don't like her and thus do not keep up on her friendships.

Kate's response to my half-hearted teasing was a little bit... asking for it?


This past weekend was particularly bad - they were out until 2am on Saturday night, playing music in the garden really loud, bellowing along, shouting at one another at the tops of their voices.


Oh noes my weekend is ruined!

-- no tech! (hjink...) (webmail), July 11th, 2005 8:45 AM. (ex machina) (later) (link)

Jon - GO FUCK YOURSELF.

-- MIS Information (masonicboo...) (webmail), July 11th, 2005 8:47 AM. (kate) (later) (link)

And if SHE wants to be offended and explain the circumstances and demand an apology from me, SHE can do so.


That aside, I think saying "we have a RIGHT to be as noisy as we want on weekends, screw you guys" is kind of lameass.

That's kind of a strawman you got there. I think there needs to be consideration both ways! (Boring middle class fux vs. obnoxious drug addict party animals)

Kim, eat a dick. I don't even know who you are.

no tech! (ex machina), Wednesday, 13 July 2005 03:00 (nineteen years ago) link

WHY would you call the cops when you can complain on the internet and provoke a noize dude?

xpost

caitlin oh no (caitxa1), Wednesday, 13 July 2005 03:00 (nineteen years ago) link

Wait, wait, hold up, so how many times did Kate call the cops complain to the moderators?

xpost

no tech! (ex machina), Wednesday, 13 July 2005 03:02 (nineteen years ago) link

That aside, I think saying "we have a RIGHT to be as noisy as we want on weekends, screw you guys" is kind of lamearse.

Seconded. Everyone has a right to have parties etc., but outward hostility toward your neighbours won't do you any favours.

A couple of years ago the people who used to live downstairs used to do this hollering screaming thing. It'd go on for hours. One night they came home at 3am and did it. As revenge I got up at 7am and JUMPED AND BANGED all through the flat for about two hours. Couple of weeks later they moved.

Hotman Paris Almanac (Autumn Almanac), Wednesday, 13 July 2005 03:02 (nineteen years ago) link

Jon, next time something serious happens to me I'll come to you for help, that okay?

Hotman Paris Almanac (Autumn Almanac), Wednesday, 13 July 2005 03:04 (nineteen years ago) link

Jon, I work on call on weekends and at night. I'd probably complain to neighbours having a noisy 3am party too, and consider calling the cops. Some of us get really sick and messed up if we have our sleep fucked with.

Trayce (trayce), Wednesday, 13 July 2005 03:04 (nineteen years ago) link

Whatever you guys. It'd just be decent of you to give it a rest for a few days.

Kim (Kim), Wednesday, 13 July 2005 03:04 (nineteen years ago) link

Kim OTM. Or maybe next time one of Jons friends is in a car accident I'll just laugh at him for being upset enough to get easily stressed out at stuff.

Trayce (trayce), Wednesday, 13 July 2005 03:06 (nineteen years ago) link

That aside, I think saying "we have a RIGHT to be as noisy as we want on weekends, screw you guys" is kind of lamearse.

WHERE IN THIS THREAD DID ANYONE MAKE A STATEMENT LIKE THIS?

xpost

Well there's like "noise" and then "NOIZE". And what you should expect hast to kind of vary based on what the neighborhood is like...

no tech! (ex machina), Wednesday, 13 July 2005 03:06 (nineteen years ago) link

Trayce, now you eat a dick. I didn't know that they were friends. And I don't think I should be forced to take someone's "fragile state of mind" into account when they act like a total asshole to me over a gentle jab.

no tech! (ex machina), Wednesday, 13 July 2005 03:08 (nineteen years ago) link

yeah good one trayce. nice one.

shine headlights on me (electricsound), Wednesday, 13 July 2005 03:10 (nineteen years ago) link

I live in an inner urban street full of apartments! I expect my neighbours to still show some commonsense politeness tho! If I have a party, I tell my mates not to yell/talk loud too much out on the balcony after midnight cos I know the sound travels! I keep the stereo reasonably low if it is late. Even on weekends!

WHERE IN THIS THREAD DID ANYONE MAKE A STATEMENT LIKE THIS?

You. "Yes, but why should we have to change for you? I think it is a "community standard" that people should be given more leeway for noise on a weekend."

Dude I like you, dont get me wrong, this is just a bit over the top is all ;P

Trayce (trayce), Wednesday, 13 July 2005 03:10 (nineteen years ago) link

Wait, wait, hold up, so how many times did Kate call the cops complain to the moderators?

Find threads from Moderator Request Forum, by user kate*.

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no tech! (ex machina), Wednesday, 13 July 2005 03:10 (nineteen years ago) link

Maybe you should find out a bit more background before you have a "gentle jab".

xxpost

Product of Australia / Kate (papa november), Wednesday, 13 July 2005 03:10 (nineteen years ago) link

MORE LEWAY != a RIGHT to be as noisy as we want on weekends

no tech! (ex machina), Wednesday, 13 July 2005 03:11 (nineteen years ago) link

Maybe you should find out a bit more background before you have a "gentle jab".

ONCE IN MIDDLE SCHOOL I GOT HIT IN THE HEAD WITH SOMEONE'S GYM BAG AND THEY CALLED ME A "FAG". SO I BEAT THE SHIT OUT OF THEM. EVERYONE SAW WHAT HAPPENED BUT REFUSED TO TELL THE HEAD NUN SO I WAS THE ONLY ONE WHO GOT DETENTION.

no tech! (ex machina), Wednesday, 13 July 2005 03:12 (nineteen years ago) link

Why the fuck should I have to "find out a bit more background" on whomever I am being mean to? You guys clearly aren't

no tech! (ex machina), Wednesday, 13 July 2005 03:13 (nineteen years ago) link

OK ok, fair enough, I just think you should have a bit more understanding that some people really do find this kind of thing very stressful (I know I do). The car accident jab was a bit much, sorry, i was just trying to make a point.

(and on that note, Jim were you being sarky? I erm, hope so).

Trayce (trayce), Wednesday, 13 July 2005 03:13 (nineteen years ago) link

I don't think I should be forced to take someone's "fragile state of mind" into account when they act like a total asshole to me over a gentle jab.

You know what? You're absolutely right.

You shouldn't do it because you're forced into it, you should do it BECAUSE YOU'RE A FREAKING CONSIDERATE HUMAN BEING.

Hotman Paris Almanac (Autumn Almanac), Wednesday, 13 July 2005 03:14 (nineteen years ago) link

sorry my post was an xpost to yr leeway one.

Trayce (trayce), Wednesday, 13 July 2005 03:14 (nineteen years ago) link

Sorry to burst into caps but, well, seems obvious.

Hotman Paris Almanac (Autumn Almanac), Wednesday, 13 July 2005 03:14 (nineteen years ago) link

Dudes -- chill.

Given that on more than a few occasions I've witnessed Kate lambasting Jon for weird and ridiculous shit, I think his response is pretty considerate and lighthearted through glib. And given that she recommend he drown in his own vomit as a walking abortion (which is like a 100 on my list of insensitive things to say) after he suggested she just shrug off an annoying nuisance (this is a 10 on my list of insensitive things to say), I don't see what he's done that's so wrong. Between wishing somebody violently dead and wishing somebody just 'get over' a real pestering situation is basically an order of magnitude in nastiness.

And given the history jon's had w. kate, it's understandable he presumed her attack was unmotivated in the way most of the others have been. But her state of mind's not the issue -- if she's gonna leap down his throat maybe she should think about avoiding ILE for a few days, where it's /quite/ likely she'll be offended?

Remy (x Jeremy), Wednesday, 13 July 2005 03:14 (nineteen years ago) link

Well I know at the very least that Masonic Kate lives in London, therefore direct connection or not she probably deserves a little compassion...like anyone affected by last weeks tragedy.

Product of Australia / Kate (papa november), Wednesday, 13 July 2005 03:15 (nineteen years ago) link

Hmm.. And given that she recommend he drown in his own vomit as a walking abortion (which is like a 100 on my list of insensitive things to say) after he suggested she just shrug off an annoying nuisance

To be fair, to some people who are constantly kept awake night after night, threatened with violence by their neighbours if they go and complain, and are at their wits end, is a bit more than "a nuisance", Jer :)

Trayce (trayce), Wednesday, 13 July 2005 03:17 (nineteen years ago) link

Hi Jer!

Also, are you twits incapable of reading the part where I mentioned that I WAS COMPLETELY FUCKING UNAWARE THAT SHE WAS FRIENDS WITH LIZ.

Dicks.

xpost: eh, as soon as the abortion thing was said (which is waaaaay more unsensitive than anything I have ever posted to ILX) my "coddling" ability went out the window.

no tech! (ex machina), Wednesday, 13 July 2005 03:18 (nineteen years ago) link

If, on the 17th of September 2001, I came down like a tonne of bricks on some American living in or near New York City or Washington DC, I doubt I wouldn't kicked off the entire forum.

Hotman Paris Almanac (Autumn Almanac), Wednesday, 13 July 2005 03:18 (nineteen years ago) link

wouldn't be

Hotman Paris Almanac (Autumn Almanac), Wednesday, 13 July 2005 03:18 (nineteen years ago) link

PS Trayce: Fair enough. But it's still an order of magnitude less than wishing somebody cruel and degrading death. And my whole response wasn't meant to sound as vicious as it might've.

Remy (x Jeremy), Wednesday, 13 July 2005 03:19 (nineteen years ago) link

Adam, seriously fuck off. Read the fucking context of anything I said to her. You smug little toad.

no tech! (ex machina), Wednesday, 13 July 2005 03:19 (nineteen years ago) link

YOU WASTE
YOU LITTLE MAN

no tech! (ex machina), Wednesday, 13 July 2005 03:19 (nineteen years ago) link

goddamn what a bunch of precious, entitled children

cousin larry bundgee: the next generation, season two (bundgee), Wednesday, 13 July 2005 03:20 (nineteen years ago) link

"walking abortion" is just OTT rhetoric, come on. Thats Kate, she talks like that.

Anyway chill y'all, now you know the reason behind ppls reactions. Lets leave it eh.

Trayce (trayce), Wednesday, 13 July 2005 03:20 (nineteen years ago) link

I live in an inner urban street full of apartments! I expect my neighbours to still show some commonsense politeness tho!

these utopian expectations are divorced from reality though.

Ô¿Ô (eman), Wednesday, 13 July 2005 03:20 (nineteen years ago) link

BTW Jer where you been at? Come on MSN later, we should catch up =)

Shit I have to go to work.

Trayce (trayce), Wednesday, 13 July 2005 03:20 (nineteen years ago) link

Jesus Christ!

Next time you're all kept awake by someone playing Mylo at 4am, call the fuckin' cops, repeatedly until they come and do something about it.

Jon, they're only going to get more hysterical so give it a rest before they really start throwing a fit.

Goddamn people, there's better expenditures of emotion at the moment!

Mike Stuchbery (Mike Stuchbery), Wednesday, 13 July 2005 03:21 (nineteen years ago) link

come on. Thats Kate, she talks like that.

this has double standard written all over it

shine headlights on me (electricsound), Wednesday, 13 July 2005 03:21 (nineteen years ago) link

i'm serious, man, Wednesday, 13 July 2005 03:23 (nineteen years ago) link

I gotta say, why does she get to be the one with the anger management problem? (xp)

Rock Hardy (Rock Hardy), Wednesday, 13 July 2005 03:23 (nineteen years ago) link

hey FUCK YOU Rock Hardy ;-)

Ô¿Ô (eman), Wednesday, 13 July 2005 03:25 (nineteen years ago) link

Adam, seriously fuck off. Read the fucking context of anything I said to her. You smug little toad.

Wow, you sound angry. Imagine how much angrier you'd be if your city was blown up last week.

Hotman Paris Almanac (Autumn Almanac), Wednesday, 13 July 2005 03:25 (nineteen years ago) link

Exactly, um, Jon might be the evil elf of ILX, but Kate ain't no magickal princess of infinite fluffiness and zen calm.

Mike Stuchbery (Mike Stuchbery), Wednesday, 13 July 2005 03:25 (nineteen years ago) link

Don't you guys have some immigrants to lynch?

no tech! (ex machina), Wednesday, 13 July 2005 03:27 (nineteen years ago) link

UNNNGH ADAM EAT MY COCK YOU FEROCIOUS TURD, I HATE YOU I HATE YOU I HATE YOU!

Mike Stuchbery (Mike Stuchbery), Wednesday, 13 July 2005 03:27 (nineteen years ago) link

Don't you guys have some immigrants to lynch?

Ahahaha! At least you got the country right.

Hotman Paris Almanac (Autumn Almanac), Wednesday, 13 July 2005 03:29 (nineteen years ago) link

Wait -- you're Australian?

no tech! (ex machina), Wednesday, 13 July 2005 03:34 (nineteen years ago) link

Looks like a NOIZE board dogpile troll to me.

Orbit (Orbit), Wednesday, 13 July 2005 03:35 (nineteen years ago) link

Wait -- you're Australian?

Yes. Cue the oh-so-contemporaneous Paul Hogan jokes.

Hotman Paris Almanac (Autumn Almanac), Wednesday, 13 July 2005 03:36 (nineteen years ago) link

or comments about convicts and petty criminals

Product of Australia / Kate (papa november), Wednesday, 13 July 2005 03:36 (nineteen years ago) link

...or Neighbours.

Wow, we're back on topic! Magic.

Hotman Paris Almanac (Autumn Almanac), Wednesday, 13 July 2005 03:38 (nineteen years ago) link

I don't have a problem with Australians. Except I know that they HATE FOREIGNERS.

Jon, remind me again why you haven't drowned in your own vomit (ex machina), Wednesday, 13 July 2005 03:39 (nineteen years ago) link

You can blame our wankerist prime minister for that.

Hotman Paris Almanac (Autumn Almanac), Wednesday, 13 July 2005 03:40 (nineteen years ago) link

What does a "Prime Minister" do?

Jon, remind me again why you haven't drowned in your own vomit (ex machina), Wednesday, 13 July 2005 03:41 (nineteen years ago) link

Kicks out all the greasy immijents.

Hotman Paris Almanac (Autumn Almanac), Wednesday, 13 July 2005 03:42 (nineteen years ago) link

http://pintland.org/users/mikey/grievious.gif

Mike Stuchbery (Mike Stuchbery), Wednesday, 13 July 2005 03:42 (nineteen years ago) link

Ladies, gentlemen, I think our job here is done.

Mike Stuchbery (Mike Stuchbery), Wednesday, 13 July 2005 03:49 (nineteen years ago) link

Looks like a NOIZE board dogpile troll to me.

-- Orbit (cstarrcstar...), July 13th, 2005 12:35 AM.

sexist pig

Ô¿Ô (eman), Wednesday, 13 July 2005 03:52 (nineteen years ago) link

I was amazed to find noise music not all that noisy at all!

I'd still rather be in Tokyo (nordicskilla), Wednesday, 13 July 2005 03:56 (nineteen years ago) link

I mostly listen to Krautrock, the Misfits and JPop..... SORRY TO SPOIL EXPECTATIONS

Jon, remind me again why you haven't drowned in your own vomit (ex machina), Wednesday, 13 July 2005 03:59 (nineteen years ago) link

I own about 4 grime CDs!

I'd still rather be in Tokyo (nordicskilla), Wednesday, 13 July 2005 04:00 (nineteen years ago) link

ooooo, ouch! it hurts! mommy! mommy!

xxxpot

Orbit (Orbit), Wednesday, 13 July 2005 04:05 (nineteen years ago) link

diapers chafing again?

Ô¿Ô (eman), Wednesday, 13 July 2005 04:10 (nineteen years ago) link

ooo! thank you sir! may i have another?

Orbit (Orbit), Wednesday, 13 July 2005 04:12 (nineteen years ago) link

*flees*

Ô¿Ô (eman), Wednesday, 13 July 2005 04:24 (nineteen years ago) link

*ticks*

Jon, remind me again why you haven't drowned in your own vomit (ex machina), Wednesday, 13 July 2005 04:26 (nineteen years ago) link

Wow, I walk away from the thread for an hour and it goes all nonsensical on my arse.

I cant tell who's being serious and whos taking the piss :/ But reading the above it looks like certain people I thought better of have just had a go at me, and thats just charming, thanks a lot mongrels.

Im so tired - I was working til 4am and have had about 5 hours broken sleep %-(

Trayce (trayce), Wednesday, 13 July 2005 04:32 (nineteen years ago) link

BTW, Things I do not joke about:

- People's moms/dads/siblings dying.
- Rape / Sexual Assault.
- Gender identity.

xpost

Jon, remind me again why you haven't drowned in your own vomit (ex machina), Wednesday, 13 July 2005 04:34 (nineteen years ago) link

Tracye, you make perfect sense, it's the thread that doesn't.
Get some good sleep :-)

Orbit (Orbit), Wednesday, 13 July 2005 04:38 (nineteen years ago) link

I just started work, I wish I could! =)

Trayce (trayce), Wednesday, 13 July 2005 04:39 (nineteen years ago) link

BTW, Things I do not joke about:
- People's moms/dads/siblings dying.
- Rape / Sexual Assault.
- Gender identity.

aw, you're an honourable man jon.

ken c (ken c), Wednesday, 13 July 2005 06:28 (nineteen years ago) link

Yeah I guess calling people fags isnt anything to do with gender identity =)

Trayce (trayce), Wednesday, 13 July 2005 07:05 (nineteen years ago) link

(I'm just givin' you a dig jon dont get mad)

Trayce (trayce), Wednesday, 13 July 2005 07:05 (nineteen years ago) link

This thread has been locked by a monitor.

Paul outta Santa Cruz (Paul in Santa Cruz), Wednesday, 13 July 2005 07:19 (nineteen years ago) link

(I wish.)

Paul outta Santa Cruz (Paul in Santa Cruz), Wednesday, 13 July 2005 07:19 (nineteen years ago) link

Oops, that was supposed to be "moderator" not "monitor."

Paul outta Santa Cruz (Paul in Santa Cruz), Wednesday, 13 July 2005 07:19 (nineteen years ago) link

"If thy screen offends thee, chuck it out!"

mark grout (mark grout), Wednesday, 13 July 2005 07:29 (nineteen years ago) link

This thread has been locked by The Monitor.

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Gear! (Ill Cajun Gunsmith) (Gear!), Wednesday, 13 July 2005 07:31 (nineteen years ago) link

This thread has been unlocked by The Merrimack.

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Gear! (Ill Cajun Gunsmith) (Gear!), Wednesday, 13 July 2005 07:33 (nineteen years ago) link

one year passes...
So did you get over it in like 3 days or did it ruin your lives?

Taking Cuddlestein Mountain by Strategy, Sunday, 1 April 2007 21:42 (seventeen years ago) link

fun thread

wanko ergo sum, Sunday, 1 April 2007 21:54 (seventeen years ago) link

1.5 days

maricopa john, Sunday, 1 April 2007 22:24 (seventeen years ago) link

lol ilx

John Splith, Sunday, 1 April 2007 23:13 (seventeen years ago) link

Pashmina, what's the situation like now? It's heartening to see that things had improved the last time you posted about it.

NI, Monday, 2 April 2007 00:40 (seventeen years ago) link

The guy moved out last year.

Pashmina, Monday, 2 April 2007 08:20 (seventeen years ago) link

Also the place/estate generally seems to have calmed down quite a lot. I think there were 3 people in all who moved somewhere else over the last year, & since they went, the place has actually improved! Amazing, innit.

Pashmina, Monday, 2 April 2007 08:26 (seventeen years ago) link

two months pass...

OH MY GOD PEOPLE ARE HAVING PARTIES ONCE A MONTH AND MAKING SO MUCH NOISE AT 2AM ON A SATURDAY IT'S RUINING MY LIFE I DON'T KNOW WHAT TO DO STOP THE PARTIES CALL THE NOISE POLICE

Catsupppppppppppppp dude 茄蕃, Wednesday, 20 June 2007 18:42 (seventeen years ago) link

Wow, this thread is amazing.

Ms Misery, Wednesday, 20 June 2007 19:00 (seventeen years ago) link

My patience is wearing thin with the tenants upstairs, who are allowing their toddler to thump on my bedroom ceiling at midnight. If he wasn't such a little blighter, I'd swear he was jumping on a pogo stick. They have also flooded my bathroom yet again, and I have a mouldy ceiling yet again. /moan

Madchen, Wednesday, 20 June 2007 19:05 (seventeen years ago) link

Why is their toddler up at midnight?

Ms Misery, Wednesday, 20 June 2007 19:06 (seventeen years ago) link

"S4T4N S3Z SHUT TEH FUCK UP LOL" w/a pentagram. In blood.

My boss has a pretty funny story about he and his band-mates' house getting robbed by their neighbors when they lived in a sketchy 'hood in the 90's. He got really drunk, blasted Sabbath out his open windows, burned a pentagram in his front yard and stood shirtless outside by the flames. He then proceeded to establish eye contact and point menacingly at everyone who happened to drive by, all while swinging his shirt above his head. They had no more trouble.

will, Wednesday, 20 June 2007 19:49 (seventeen years ago) link

Why is their toddler up at midnight?

Good question!

Madchen, Wednesday, 20 June 2007 19:54 (seventeen years ago) link

btw he was in a surf/garage instrumental combo with a predilection for bowling shirts, just to add to the ridiculousness of it all.

will, Wednesday, 20 June 2007 19:54 (seventeen years ago) link

Why is their toddler up at midnight?
Has to keep swimming because of flooded flat.

accentmonkey, Wednesday, 20 June 2007 19:55 (seventeen years ago) link

http://img15.echo.cx/img15/8554/omg4pa.gif

Catsupppppppppppppp dude 茄蕃, Wednesday, 20 June 2007 19:56 (seventeen years ago) link

yowsah yowsah yowsah

lfam, Wednesday, 20 June 2007 20:02 (seventeen years ago) link

Hahaha I had forgotten about this crazy thread.

Trayce, Thursday, 21 June 2007 01:21 (seventeen years ago) link

Wow, such troubling neighbours.

jim, Thursday, 21 June 2007 01:28 (seventeen years ago) link

seven years pass...

My next door neighbour, who bought the house last year, has been hammering and drilling into the wall we share for MONTHS now. A couple of hours every day. I guess he's DIYing the thing and he's not very experienced. How much patience is a normal neighbour expected to have for this kind of thing? He hasn't let me know anything, he hasn't asked me anything, it's like I don't live here, the way he's going on about it. Does he not know it sounds and feels like he's in my house whenever he does this?

I can't call the cops before I ask about it personally, which I can't, because I'm an angry coward and I only shut my doors very loudly hoping he will realize that if he hears me I hear him too, to no avail. Putting a new kitchen and bathroom in isn't forbidden, I know that, but I'm all out of patience and I would just be too angry to speak my mind calmly if I went and rang his door bell. I'm not writing a letter, that would be too passive/aggressive ("I'm sorry I'm not bothering you by living here next to you quietly" etc)

GRRRRRRR

StanM, Sunday, 8 February 2015 13:45 (nine years ago) link

("sorry I'm bothering you by living here" that is)

StanM, Sunday, 8 February 2015 13:46 (nine years ago) link

I've bought headphones which I'm wearing to listen to music and watch TV every night and every weekend - IN MY OWN HOUSE - but it's not helping much.
I'll go sit in my car in the garage to cool down now - again.

StanM, Sunday, 8 February 2015 13:47 (nine years ago) link

five months pass...

One of my previous neighbours from hell has returned after an 18 month prison sentence and he is pissing me off already by throwing bifta ends over the wall. His partner and kids are hard work as well, but not bad people, in fact his kids are quite hilarious at times.

But this fucker is a vortex of bad shit and I have been getting worried recently that I might end up in a situation that leads to physical violence and he is only a scrawny lil shit but is still potentially quite dangerous in that he has a network of criminal friends and is liable to pull a knife.

I can't prove it but the last time he was out some of my kid's garden furniture and a sandpit table got knicked and I am fairly certain this fucker was the perp.

I was going to go around and confront him about the bifta ends but one of them was quite big so I just smoked it instead.

xelab, Thursday, 6 August 2015 21:09 (nine years ago) link

I hope this doesn't restart my smoking habit, but this is some strong shit. Probably a shameful admission to make but fuck I haven't been stoned for years.

xelab, Thursday, 6 August 2015 21:19 (nine years ago) link

I had forgotten how good music sounds on weed, so thank you bad neighbour.

xelab, Thursday, 6 August 2015 21:21 (nine years ago) link

it's bifter, pal.

corbyn's gallus (jim in glasgow), Thursday, 6 August 2015 21:21 (nine years ago) link

The Bifta awards

xelab, Thursday, 6 August 2015 21:27 (nine years ago) link

skunk tenancy

imago, Thursday, 6 August 2015 21:33 (nine years ago) link

one year passes...

Fpd u for that

Betsy DeVos Ayes (darraghmac), Saturday, 18 February 2017 02:52 (seven years ago) link

for the second time in my life i live above a guy who does loud religious singing a few times a day. for the second time in my life he's also a domestic abuser. go religion.

he sometimes comes up to tell us to "stop the heavy walking, i have a £5,000 chandelier and it's shaking from the way you guys walk" - i've tried, more for my own amusement than anything else, to introduce a sliver of self-awareness into his dire world by saying "the walls and ceilings are quite thin here, i can imagine that anyone making any noise would be extremely irritating for the entire apartment block" or "yes, we all have to consider how much unnecessary noise we make, or the strange habits we have which bother others" and he just reacts as if he's thinking "yes i'm glad you agree you are noisy". ultimately i've decided he's a fucking dick.

Bein' Sean Bean (LocalGarda), Saturday, 18 February 2017 09:38 (seven years ago) link

I have some very annoying + dodgy neighbours, but nobody that intrusive and unreasonable. I think I would probably lose my self control in a situation like that, and it would degenerate into empty threats yelling and much innocuous shoving with no real follow up in no time!

calzino, Saturday, 18 February 2017 12:36 (seven years ago) link

(xp)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s70y40ba7k8

Eats like Elvis, shits like De Niro (Tom D.), Saturday, 18 February 2017 12:50 (seven years ago) link

I have some very annoying + dodgy neighbours, but nobody that intrusive and unreasonable. I think I would probably lose my self control in a situation like that, and it would degenerate into empty threats yelling and much innocuous shoving with no real follow up in no time!

yeah it is testing, sometimes i genuinely want to just tell him to go fuck himself, i'm not intimidated by him in the slightest, but i know that peace is important. he hasn't been around in a little while so i'm hoping he might have stopped. one morning last year he had a screaming argument with his brother, who was on the street outside roaring up "you're a fucking pussy, i'll fuck you in the ass you fucking pussy, come down here and i'll fuck you in the ass. you beat your wife, you insult my wife, you're a fucking coward, i'll fuck you in the ass, get down here."

i was fairly tempted to give the brother my key and let him at it.

Bein' Sean Bean (LocalGarda), Saturday, 18 February 2017 12:59 (seven years ago) link

one year passes...

I find it quite comforting when my neighbour invites her despicable, beyond the pale sociopath male sibling around and every time he turns a happy social situation like a bbq or a pool party into a shitfest with much shouting and threats of violence, 8-way recriminations etc. I was just lying on the trampoline with a bottle of red and laughing my head off at some of the dialogue tonight. I don't mean it in a judgemental way, because I do actually have an affection for these ppl. And they do a sterling job of pissing off the same evil neighbours I can't stand. you do get these people on council estates with delusions of middle classiness, who are some of the real worst people amongst humanity in the uk right now IMHO

calzino, Sunday, 6 May 2018 22:46 (six years ago) link

ah *wipes tear* yr description reminds me of dear ol mum

.b derf (darraghmac), Sunday, 6 May 2018 22:48 (six years ago) link

did we ever get this sorted

lbi's life of limitless european glamour (Le Bateau Ivre), Sunday, 6 May 2018 23:01 (six years ago) link

well idk about "we" but "i" moved

.b derf (darraghmac), Sunday, 6 May 2018 23:02 (six years ago) link

at least your mam had the pretext of having to live with fucking giving birth to you as an excuse for being so! jokes obv !

calzino, Sunday, 6 May 2018 23:04 (six years ago) link

harsh, fair, tru, joeks

.b derf (darraghmac), Sunday, 6 May 2018 23:05 (six years ago) link

one month passes...

My neighbour has this Del-boy type business plan to find a cheap way of undercutting the people that install outdoor pools in peoples gardens. He invited me round to inspect his crudely nailed together crates on a badly mixed concrete base that is totally on the piss. I like his style though, but didn't have the heart to tell him how many holes there are in his plan. But I'm the smug twat who once 2nd fixed the spur on a £120 grand, granite font in an Anglican monastic church, so obv I know everything!

calzino, Wednesday, 13 June 2018 21:22 (six years ago) link

He also has this partner in crime who swears every second word but still admonishes other people for swearing in front of his young daughter and said "if you fucking know anyone interested in having a garden pool, then fucking recommend us, man"

calzino, Wednesday, 13 June 2018 21:28 (six years ago) link

i <3 calzino posts

estela, Thursday, 14 June 2018 05:15 (six years ago) link

hes a terrible man in many of the good ways

tired culché (darraghmac), Thursday, 14 June 2018 05:17 (six years ago) link

pure glee

estela, Thursday, 14 June 2018 05:23 (six years ago) link

one month passes...

some crazy mofo is cutting their hedges at 00:37 GMT. There will be blood.

calzino, Monday, 6 August 2018 23:38 (six years ago) link

ooof

dele alli my bookmarks (darraghmac), Monday, 6 August 2018 23:45 (six years ago) link

I've got it wrong, it's Yorkshire Water doing midnight groundworks around the corner. The water went off for a few hours earlier. Sorry bad revive!

calzino, Monday, 6 August 2018 23:50 (six years ago) link

if I ever completely lose the will to go on, I will start cutting my hedges at 2am though.

calzino, Monday, 6 August 2018 23:52 (six years ago) link

kinda disappointed tbh

dele alli my bookmarks (darraghmac), Monday, 6 August 2018 23:56 (six years ago) link

five years pass...

had a neighbour call around today complaining about noise. It was disappointing, because this is currently the quietest period I've had in years. I initially kept it polite, and when he started complaining about my partner being loud and swearing a lot loudly - I explained she hasn't even been in the house for over 3 and a half weeks and suffers from MS + dementia and is still in hospital after major surgery .. so you can't say you are still hearing her, dickhead. I did my theatrical hardman nonsense at this point which is blazing eye contact, followed by taking glasses off like I'm ready for action (lol I'm not really) and walking towards him .. and he ran off. I walked around to his front door and knocked on his door. I just wanted to clear the air and explain that there are different types of neighbour noise and stuff like autistics having meltdowns or confused people that suffer from dementia don't have a fucking volume control or a shutoff switch so it's out of my control, but he was hiding in there with curtains shut. I returned again later after I had calmed down and he still wouldn't come out, this was annoying because he approached me in a bullying manner is about 6"2 and absolutely shit it when I made it clear I was ready to knock the cunt to the deck!

vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Friday, 3 November 2023 23:46 (one year ago) link

a problematic post, but anyone coming to my doorstep giving me unfair grief, right now I'm ready to put them on the deck very fast if all diplomatic options are exhausted

vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Friday, 3 November 2023 23:55 (one year ago) link


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