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This is the thread where Chicagoans pretend they're in a Galaxie 500 video.

Fish fingers all in a line (kenan), Thursday, 17 February 2005 17:45 (twenty-one years ago)

Maybe a photo to kick it off?

http://giganticmag.com/photos/P1010777.jpg

Fish fingers all in a line (kenan), Thursday, 17 February 2005 17:48 (twenty-one years ago)

So Sarah and I are planning to go to the Canasta show tomorrow...anyone else?

n/a (Nick A.), Thursday, 17 February 2005 17:53 (twenty-one years ago)

I printed my ticket.

Fish fingers all in a line (kenan), Thursday, 17 February 2005 17:57 (twenty-one years ago)

We should repost that link, actually:

http://www.canastamusic.com/shows/announcements/metrocomp2005.html

Fish fingers all in a line (kenan), Thursday, 17 February 2005 18:06 (twenty-one years ago)

Yay :)

jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 17 February 2005 18:10 (twenty-one years ago)

I just read about kenan's SO and miccio's sister in the ny times!

teeny (teeny), Thursday, 17 February 2005 18:11 (twenty-one years ago)

(I like the thread title, btw. Something from that album came up on random last night, I forget what it was.)

jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 17 February 2005 18:11 (twenty-one years ago)

im coming back to visit in march sometime if anyone wants to hang out, or help me babysit my 2 year old niece

phil-two (phil-two), Thursday, 17 February 2005 18:12 (twenty-one years ago)

Teeny, wow! I'm used to seeing press on Jessa, but what was Ms. Claire Miccio in there for?

jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 17 February 2005 18:12 (twenty-one years ago)

i'd like to go back :(

Alienus Quam Reproba (blueski), Thursday, 17 February 2005 18:12 (twenty-one years ago)

It is fucking frigid out today.

n/a (Nick A.), Thursday, 17 February 2005 18:13 (twenty-one years ago)

I just read about kenan's SO and miccio's sister in the ny times!

Link me? I may have missed that one.

Fish fingers all in a line (kenan), Thursday, 17 February 2005 18:13 (twenty-one years ago)

Stevem, not meeting you is one of my biggest regrets in life. (Fuck being sick, I coulda dragged my ass outta bed!)

jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 17 February 2005 18:14 (twenty-one years ago)

And yes, it is FUCKING cold out there. And I couldn't catch a cab this morning to save my life. My cheeks were totally numb by the time I got to work.

Fish fingers all in a line (kenan), Thursday, 17 February 2005 18:14 (twenty-one years ago)

http://www.nytimes.com/2005/02/17/books/17comp.html
via TMFTML.

teeny (teeny), Thursday, 17 February 2005 18:15 (twenty-one years ago)

thank you kindly.

Fish fingers all in a line (kenan), Thursday, 17 February 2005 18:17 (twenty-one years ago)

Ah yes, I read about that somewhere, too.

jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 17 February 2005 18:18 (twenty-one years ago)

I will probably be attending the Canasta show. I don't know about my better half. My worser third might go though.

Jeff-PTTL (Jeff), Thursday, 17 February 2005 23:39 (twenty-one years ago)

and thank you for a new thread.

Jeff-PTTL (Jeff), Thursday, 17 February 2005 23:39 (twenty-one years ago)

I applied for a job at the new Barnes and Noble that's going to be in the DePaul center today. The lady said she would hire me, but she thought I would be bored as a cashier. How does she know????????

Jeff-PTTL (Jeff), Thursday, 17 February 2005 23:40 (twenty-one years ago)

My worser third might go though.

Is that your name for Jesse?

jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 17 February 2005 23:42 (twenty-one years ago)

mmm hmm

Jeff-PTTL (Jeff), Thursday, 17 February 2005 23:47 (twenty-one years ago)

wouldn't anyone be bored as a cashier? but it's a job. do you think they are looking for part-time people??

how is everyone??

Amateur(ist) (Amateur(ist)), Friday, 18 February 2005 07:12 (twenty-one years ago)

fine. just fine. and yourself?

Fish fingers all in a line (kenan), Friday, 18 February 2005 07:12 (twenty-one years ago)

eh, you know.

Amateur(ist) (Amateur(ist)), Friday, 18 February 2005 07:21 (twenty-one years ago)

well, it's been real.

Fish fingers all in a line (kenan), Friday, 18 February 2005 07:32 (twenty-one years ago)

see you round

Amateur(ist) (Amateur(ist)), Friday, 18 February 2005 07:39 (twenty-one years ago)

(turns to friend) well, that was awkward

Amateur(ist) (Amateur(ist)), Friday, 18 February 2005 07:42 (twenty-one years ago)

*whistles while walking away*

Fish fingers all in a line (kenan), Friday, 18 February 2005 07:48 (twenty-one years ago)

i always see that guy around, and he says hi, but i can never remember his name.

Amateur(ist) (Amateur(ist)), Friday, 18 February 2005 07:50 (twenty-one years ago)

Fish. How can you forget Fish? You know a lot of Fishes?

Fish fingers all in a line (kenan), Friday, 18 February 2005 07:52 (twenty-one years ago)

can i answer that without there being legal implications?

Amateur(ist) (Amateur(ist)), Friday, 18 February 2005 07:52 (twenty-one years ago)

Anyway, yeah, I'm doing ok. It's late and I'm working on my 1994 mix after a long and completely undeserved hiatus. Feels good.

Fish fingers all in a line (kenan), Friday, 18 February 2005 07:53 (twenty-one years ago)

IT'S SO FSCKING COLD OUTSIDE I THINK I MAY DIE RIGHT HERE.

Fish fingers all in a line (kenan), Friday, 18 February 2005 16:50 (twenty-one years ago)

But it's sunny! I listened to Arular on the way to the el, and it was a perfect soundtrack to a cold, cloudless morning.

jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 18 February 2005 16:53 (twenty-one years ago)

I listened to a mix of Spoon's "Telephono" and Basement Jaxx's "Rooty," introduced by some experimental drum stuff I threw together last night.

n/a (Nick A.), Friday, 18 February 2005 16:55 (twenty-one years ago)

Ooh, experimental drum stuff. So did you make a mash-up out of the tunes?

Jordan (Jordan), Friday, 18 February 2005 17:00 (twenty-one years ago)

I took a drum track from a 4-track tape of an old band I was in, mixed it down four times, slightly faster each time, then played them all at the same time so they start together but then eventually go out of phase and collapse into chaos. It sounds kind of like jazz.

n/a (Nick A.), Friday, 18 February 2005 17:02 (twenty-one years ago)

But it was a little too controlled, so I moved one of the tracks so that it's more out of synch with the others, and I think it sounds pretty cool.

n/a (Nick A.), Friday, 18 February 2005 17:05 (twenty-one years ago)

I'm thinking of doing a series of experimental recordings using drums and drum sounds, because I feel like experimental music (at least what I'm exposed to) is dominated by the drone. Which is ok, but we need some variety.

n/a (Nick A.), Friday, 18 February 2005 17:05 (twenty-one years ago)

Everyone likes drums.

Jordan (Jordan), Friday, 18 February 2005 17:07 (twenty-one years ago)

TS: drone vs. cacophony

Fish fingers all in a line (kenan), Friday, 18 February 2005 17:07 (twenty-one years ago)

This is true.
Johnny, my love, get out of the business it makes me wanna rough you up so badly...has been in my head all day because of this thread.

jocelyn (Jocelyn), Friday, 18 February 2005 17:08 (twenty-one years ago)

I have to return my iPod shuffle today. This makes me very very sad. It will not work on my piece of shit PC at home. Actually, it's worse than that -- it loads sometimes, and sometimes it does not, and it works perfectly on the Mac at work, so I know it's not a problem with the iPod itself. More likely a problem with the squirrelly hardware config on my cheap-ass computer, which iTunes and Quicktime have consistent trouble with.

Feh. I really liked it, too. But I can't use it until I get a new computer, so what's the point?

Fish fingers all in a line (kenan), Friday, 18 February 2005 17:10 (twenty-one years ago)

Sorry, K-dog.

n/a (Nick A.), Friday, 18 February 2005 17:25 (twenty-one years ago)

New computer for me! Someone please help! Can we hold a fundraiser, maybe?

Fish fingers all in a line (kenan), Friday, 18 February 2005 17:28 (twenty-one years ago)

I CAN'T LIVE WITH A SHITTY-ASS ATHALON PROCESSOR FOR MUCH LONGER, PEOPLE.

Fish fingers all in a line (kenan), Friday, 18 February 2005 17:28 (twenty-one years ago)

"Kenan Aid." It'll be like when my friends put up flyers around town announcing that "starving artists need wine." I'm too much of an aesthete not to have a nice Apple on my desk.

Fish fingers all in a line (kenan), Friday, 18 February 2005 17:32 (twenty-one years ago)

http://freemacmini.com/

Jeff-PTTL (Jeff), Friday, 18 February 2005 17:41 (twenty-one years ago)

SPAM HA HA HA

excuse me.

Jeff-PTTL (Jeff), Friday, 18 February 2005 17:41 (twenty-one years ago)

I'm thinking of that, kinda. Not free, but not bad.

Computer table from Craigslist: $20.
21" CRT monitor from Craigslist: $50-$100.
Apple keyboard: $30.
Apple multi-button mouse: $40.
Mac mini: $500-$700, depending on how loaded I want it.

Total cost: under $1000.

Fish fingers all in a line (kenan), Friday, 18 February 2005 17:59 (twenty-one years ago)

so small...

http://www.sigaralounge.com/indexa.htm

has anyone ever been here?

Jeff-PTTL (Jeff), Friday, 18 February 2005 18:15 (twenty-one years ago)

No but it's right behind my house.

n/a (Nick A.), Friday, 18 February 2005 18:19 (twenty-one years ago)

do you think canasta is going to sell out? i'll probably get to the show around 10:30 or 11 tonight. i know it'll cost me $6, but i just want to make sure i'll be able to get in.

kelsey (kelstarry), Friday, 18 February 2005 18:21 (twenty-one years ago)

THEY SOLD OUT WHEN THEY SIGNED TO V2, I LIKE THEIR FIRST DEMO TAPE BUT THEN THEY STARTED SUCKING.

n/a (Nick A.), Friday, 18 February 2005 18:27 (twenty-one years ago)

can i be an honorary chicago ilxor? preeze?

jill schoelen is the queen of my dreams! (Homosexual II), Friday, 18 February 2005 18:28 (twenty-one years ago)

Duh yes.

n/a (Nick A.), Friday, 18 February 2005 18:28 (twenty-one years ago)

I don't even live in Chicago, I'm just delusional and everyone else humors me.

n/a (Nick A.), Friday, 18 February 2005 18:29 (twenty-one years ago)

would "you" like to "meet" for "drinks"?

amateurist, logged out, Friday, 18 February 2005 18:37 (twenty-one years ago)

I don't know why I have such a boner for Chicago.

jill schoelen is the queen of my dreams! (Homosexual II), Friday, 18 February 2005 18:38 (twenty-one years ago)

Chicago's great. I would consider thinking about moving there someday.

Jordan (Jordan), Friday, 18 February 2005 18:38 (twenty-one years ago)

nick, was that yes for me or mandee?

kelsey (kelstarry), Friday, 18 February 2005 18:45 (twenty-one years ago)

I don't know why I have such a boner for Chicago.

I don't either. It's a medical curiosity, to be sure. Pics plz.

Fish fingers all in a line (kenan), Friday, 18 February 2005 18:50 (twenty-one years ago)

It's a ghost boner.

jill schoelen is the queen of my dreams! (Homosexual II), Friday, 18 February 2005 19:09 (twenty-one years ago)

woooooOOOOOOooooo

Fish fingers all in a line (kenan), Friday, 18 February 2005 19:11 (twenty-one years ago)

please help me come up with a pun involving the word "priapism" and something to do with chicago.

thanks,

amateurist

amateurist, logged out, Friday, 18 February 2005 19:14 (twenty-one years ago)

I like the word "turgid" quite a bit.

Fish fingers all in a line (kenan), Friday, 18 February 2005 19:18 (twenty-one years ago)

well, you would.*


*i have no idea what this means.

amateurist, logged out, Friday, 18 February 2005 19:20 (twenty-one years ago)

kelsey, it was to mandee. I don't know if the show will sell out or not. I've never been to the Metro so I don't have a good grasp of how many people it will hold.

n/a (Nick A.), Friday, 18 February 2005 19:20 (twenty-one years ago)

A lot.

Jordan (Jordan), Friday, 18 February 2005 19:21 (twenty-one years ago)

Remember the Polo Grounds? About that many.

Fish fingers all in a line (kenan), Friday, 18 February 2005 19:25 (twenty-one years ago)

What would you suppose would be the best way to get to the Metro tonight? El?

n/a (Nick A.), Friday, 18 February 2005 20:14 (twenty-one years ago)

I don't suppose any of you guys can help me out with my bass inquiry? I'm getting my girlfriend a bass for her birthday and we've got gigs, so she better get some hot chops stat.

Jordan (Jordan), Friday, 18 February 2005 20:22 (twenty-one years ago)

Our band is going to be called either the Metatarsals or the Functional Alcoholics.

Jordan (Jordan), Friday, 18 February 2005 20:30 (twenty-one years ago)

I read your question, Jordan, but I honestly have no idea. I mostly learned by ear and from the tab book for Siamese Dream.

n/a (Nick A.), Friday, 18 February 2005 20:32 (twenty-one years ago)

There's no way it will sell out. 1) The Metro holds 1,100 people. 2) We didn't get any press except on Flavorpill and Chicagoist.com. 3) We're headlinining the show. Us. Canasta. Nobody knows who we are.

jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 18 February 2005 20:36 (twenty-one years ago)

(I mean, even if all three bands bring 200 people, that's still only half the size of the venue.)

jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 18 February 2005 20:37 (twenty-one years ago)

I'll be with you in spirit to populate the ranks.

jocelyn (Jocelyn), Friday, 18 February 2005 20:38 (twenty-one years ago)

I'm just going to stand around with my legs spread rrreeeeaaallllyyy far apart.

n/a (Nick A.), Friday, 18 February 2005 20:39 (twenty-one years ago)

I like going to sparsely attended shows -- more room to dance!

jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 18 February 2005 20:39 (twenty-one years ago)

http://www.zulunation.com/JAMES%20BROWN%202%20A.jpg

Fish fingers all in a line (kenan), Friday, 18 February 2005 20:47 (twenty-one years ago)

Yeah, that's what I figured. Maybe tab books are the way to go, since she'd probably rather play Siouxsie than Hot Cross Buns or whatever, and she's already got a good ear from singing.

xposts

Jordan (Jordan), Friday, 18 February 2005 20:47 (twenty-one years ago)

In high school, I went down to Chicago with a girl to see Savatage. Is Canasta like Savatage?

Jordan (Jordan), Friday, 18 February 2005 20:48 (twenty-one years ago)

(this was at the Metro btw)

Jordan (Jordan), Friday, 18 February 2005 20:48 (twenty-one years ago)

Exactly.

jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 18 February 2005 20:49 (twenty-one years ago)

Sweet.

Jordan (Jordan), Friday, 18 February 2005 20:55 (twenty-one years ago)

POOP BITCH.

Not you guys.

jill schoelen is the queen of my dreams! (Homosexual II), Friday, 18 February 2005 21:50 (twenty-one years ago)

Let it out, by all means.

Jordan (Jordan), Friday, 18 February 2005 21:54 (twenty-one years ago)

No one ever told me the best way to get to the Metro. Guess I'll be rollerbladin'.

n/a (Nick A.), Friday, 18 February 2005 21:54 (twenty-one years ago)

You could drive from Milwaukee, it worked for me in high school. Don't forget to park somewhere.

Jordan (Jordan), Friday, 18 February 2005 21:56 (twenty-one years ago)

I'd probably go Divison bus to clark street, the north on the 22. Red line would be okay, but it's not the shortest walk from the addison stop to the metro. Of course I don't know how long you will be waiting for a bus, but at least you can build fires while you are standing still.

Jeff-PTTL (Jeff), Friday, 18 February 2005 22:01 (twenty-one years ago)

and I'd take a cab back.

Jeff-PTTL (Jeff), Friday, 18 February 2005 22:01 (twenty-one years ago)

Hell, i'd probably take a cab there if I had to take two buses.

Jeff-PTTL (Jeff), Friday, 18 February 2005 22:07 (twenty-one years ago)

yeah, it's cold as all shit out there.

Fish fingers all in a line (kenan), Friday, 18 February 2005 22:09 (twenty-one years ago)

Hmm, since Ben is coming too it would probably be most economical to cab it and then split the fare.

n/a (Nick A.), Friday, 18 February 2005 22:10 (twenty-one years ago)

that's what i'd do.

kelsey (kelstarry), Friday, 18 February 2005 22:18 (twenty-one years ago)

hi people thanks for coming to my show!!

jaymc (jaymc), Saturday, 19 February 2005 08:36 (twenty-one years ago)

Hey it was fun! Sorry we left while you guys were still playing, but I got really drowsy (not because of Canasta). This may have been due to multiple rum & cokes, followed by a mystery drink that Jeff ordered by asking for "something fruity for my friend." We think it may have been an amaretto sour. Whatever it was, it was kind of thick. Weird. But it was a good show and it was awesome seeing everybody.

n/a (Nick A.), Saturday, 19 February 2005 15:11 (twenty-one years ago)

I am the suck. I fell asleep around 9.

Fish fingers all in a line (kenan), Saturday, 19 February 2005 15:45 (twenty-one years ago)

Gah... and I have to go to work again today. Oh, well... overtime.

Fish fingers all in a line (kenan), Saturday, 19 February 2005 15:46 (twenty-one years ago)

I enjoyed the show as well. Despite leaving early, I still had a hangover the next day. Good seeing you n, s, b, j, k, and l.

Jeff-PTTL (Jeff), Sunday, 20 February 2005 20:17 (twenty-one years ago)

dude! how could you forget the z?!

z! (Amateur(ist)), Sunday, 20 February 2005 21:06 (twenty-one years ago)

Yay chicago!

For those that don't know (everyone) or care (same) I am from chicago but going to school in the middle of nowherrr and I miss home and friends, but I graduate this year so yay! I 'll be home soon...anyway my friend (also from chicago, currently attending school in the chi) IMs me today and mentions that he just got to be the grip and electric guy for a hardcore porn film. Pretty nice, i said. (schlock and awe)

Friend (1:30:27 PM): I was 5 inches from pussy at all times of this lesbian scene
Friend (1:30:38 PM): cause I had to hold a special light

I love you chicago!

djdee2005 (djdee2005), Sunday, 20 February 2005 21:19 (twenty-one years ago)

There's hardcore porn filmed in Chicago? I mean, I guess porn is filmed everywhere...

"special light"

jaymc (jaymc), Sunday, 20 February 2005 21:23 (twenty-one years ago)

yeah that shocked me too! I mean I'm sure there's hardcore gay porn bcuz we have enough american bears to supply an army but apparently there are people in the world who get down to pale guhls from the windy city.

djdee2005 (djdee2005), Sunday, 20 February 2005 21:24 (twenty-one years ago)

Do you think the bear community is bigger in Chicago than elsewhere? I mean, I know there's an annual bear convention weekend of some sort (they get their own night at the Metro!), and there's at least one bar with a monthly bear night, but I really have no point of comparison. (And I wouldn't even know this except that I used to work with a self-identified bear.)

jaymc (jaymc), Sunday, 20 February 2005 21:29 (twenty-one years ago)

I don't really have the statistical evidence to back it up but it just seems like it would be a part of the regional character based on my stereotypes.

djdee2005 (djdee2005), Sunday, 20 February 2005 21:40 (twenty-one years ago)

there's a light, a certain kind of light, that never shines on me-ee

Amateur(ist) (Amateur(ist)), Sunday, 20 February 2005 22:37 (twenty-one years ago)

It's not porn if you can't see the cervix. Somebody get some more lights in here!

Fish fingers all in a line (kenan), Monday, 21 February 2005 02:06 (twenty-one years ago)

"i think the clit needs a little more fill"

Amateur(ist) (Amateur(ist)), Monday, 21 February 2005 02:08 (twenty-one years ago)

We're painting! And it's really hard work. Whoda thunk it. I was all like, "Let's paint the office today!" And then while we were there Jessa suggested we paint the kitchen cabinets, too. And this all sounded fine and dandy until we started hauling ladders in and taping everything and washing and sanding and removing the kitchen cabinet doors and taking them apart and sanding some more and priming and... ugh! We've hardly started, and I'm so sore it hurts to move. Should brighten the place up a lot, though.

Fish fingers all in a line (kenan), Monday, 21 February 2005 05:57 (twenty-one years ago)

I want the job of naming all those paint colors. The office is going to be "lagoon" and the kitchen cabinets are going to be "aspen orange."

Fish fingers all in a line (kenan), Monday, 21 February 2005 06:01 (twenty-one years ago)

Not Technically Chicago, But John I will try and round up some friends to go see Canasta on the 11th in INDY at Radio Radio.

jocelyn (Jocelyn), Monday, 21 February 2005 20:36 (twenty-one years ago)

Sweet!

jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 21 February 2005 20:37 (twenty-one years ago)

How did you hear about the show?

jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 21 February 2005 20:46 (twenty-one years ago)

I periodically check the FF/Canasta websites when I am supposed to be checking invoices.

jocelyn (Jocelyn), Monday, 21 February 2005 20:51 (twenty-one years ago)

Hey Kenan, my trumpet player's girlfriend ended up doing a design for my website. There's a demo of it here, what do you guys think?

Jordan (Jordan), Tuesday, 22 February 2005 19:56 (twenty-one years ago)

Perfect. Go for it. What I had was very similar, actually, but purple. And unfinished.

Fish fingers all in a line (kenan), Tuesday, 22 February 2005 19:58 (twenty-one years ago)

I personally don't care for that font, it's a little too wacky and "ROCKANDROLL" for me.

n/a (Nick A.), Tuesday, 22 February 2005 19:58 (twenty-one years ago)

Yeah, you might be right. It's the same one I have on the current site, just an old typewriter font I downloaded. It might be cool for titles, but not for sentences.

Jordan (Jordan), Tuesday, 22 February 2005 20:01 (twenty-one years ago)

See, and there I was assuming you were married to that font. I don't like it either. There, I said it. Hmph.

Fish fingers all in a line (kenan), Tuesday, 22 February 2005 20:06 (twenty-one years ago)

With the rusty machinery graphic you got there, I'd go with a big ol' workhorse industrial font. Futura, maybe. Something you'd see on the lettering in front of a factory in the 20's.

Fish fingers all in a line (kenan), Tuesday, 22 February 2005 20:07 (twenty-one years ago)

Haha.

xpst

Jordan (Jordan), Tuesday, 22 February 2005 20:08 (twenty-one years ago)

I'm thinking of doing a series of experimental recordings using drums and drum sounds, because I feel like experimental music (at least what I'm exposed to) is dominated by the drone. Which is ok, but we need some variety.

Hey n/a, I came across this in the NYT yesterday and thought of you:

"The other Nancarrow ensemble work, Three Movements for Chamber Orchestra (1993), is from a different universe or two. Its opening movement is a canon for five simple percussion instruments, each playing the rhythm at a different tempo, but ending at the same place."

Evidently he has a few other percussion canons as well.

nabiscothingy, Tuesday, 22 February 2005 20:38 (twenty-one years ago)

Goddammit. That's a better idea though, starting with chaos and ending with synchonicity. Seems hard to orchestrate, but I guess not for professional musicians who can, you know, like, read music and stuff.

n/a (Nick A.), Tuesday, 22 February 2005 20:57 (twenty-one years ago)

I wonder how that would work out.

Have you heard the percussion piece on Johnny Greenwood's Bodysong? It's cool, lots of bangy percussion phasing in and out of time with each other.

Jordan (Jordan), Tuesday, 22 February 2005 20:58 (twenty-one years ago)

No. I don't really want to listen to this kind of stuff, I mainly just want to create it. That's how I feel about most conceptual/experimental art, that the fun is more in the coming up with the idea and trying it out than in the result. I guess I consider experimental music (for me) to be a personal experiment, to try something that I haven't tried before and see what happens. I'm not so much interested in other people's experiments; maybe I feel like I don't have the background for them.

n/a (Nick A.), Tuesday, 22 February 2005 21:02 (twenty-one years ago)

That sounds really snooty and it isn't entirely true. I listen to plenty of experimental music, but I'm not interested in connecting other people's experiments to the processes, I'm just interested in the results. So I would probably like the Greenwood piece but not because it's similar to an idea I had expressed, but because it sounds cool. It's the opposite for my own experiments, I'm interested in the process but not so much the results. Usually because the results are terrible and unlistenable.

n/a (Nick A.), Tuesday, 22 February 2005 21:09 (twenty-one years ago)

Aww, damn, I didn't mean to kill your enthusiasm -- I was hoping you'd be happy to have a reference point. Sorry to be spoily.

I'm with you about making experimental stuff, though: I'll do it but I have very little interest in listening to it. I think the best is when the "experimental" aspect actually winds up with an "applied" element -- i.e., your weird experiment results in some cool sound that you realize you can use in some conventional format. (One of my favorite crappy 4-track songs came about like that; I had this weird pattern of sine wave chords that turned out great to sing over.)

nabiscothingy, Tuesday, 22 February 2005 21:11 (twenty-one years ago)

You didn't kill my enthusiasm, I might still do this when I have the time. It gives me an excuse to go play the drums, which I love, but I don't have to worry about being a shitty drummer because it's experimental so it doesn't matter. The problem is when to do it. We've been doing lots of Fake Fictions recording lately, recording four more songs that aren't on the album and they sound way way better because we're figuring out interesting production tricks and putting Farfisa on everything. Can you all tell I'm reeeeaalllly ccaffeinated right now?

n/a (Nick A.), Tuesday, 22 February 2005 21:14 (twenty-one years ago)

BLAH BLAH BLAH ME ME ME FAKE FICTIONS BLAH BLAH

n/a (Nick A.), Tuesday, 22 February 2005 21:16 (twenty-one years ago)

NABISCO When are you coming back to Chicago?

n/a (Nick A.), Tuesday, 22 February 2005 21:18 (twenty-one years ago)

Soooooocccafffeeeiiinnnaattteeeddd...

n/a (Nick A.), Tuesday, 22 February 2005 21:19 (twenty-one years ago)

Arf. Well supposedly there were half-plans for a bunch of writers to road-trip out next month, but we were drunk when we decided that, and what with all of us being writers I don't anticipate anyone getting non-flaky enough to actually plan this out. So it's either mid-April or over the summer, once I'm done with classes. It's gonna hurt my soul to be in Chicago and not have a car anymore. I was listening to the Dr. Dog album the other day and not being super into-it, and then I realized how much better it'd sound if it were July and I were driving up Ashland with no shoes on.

nabiscothingy, Tuesday, 22 February 2005 21:23 (twenty-one years ago)

CHICAGO HATES CARS

Jordan (Jordan), Tuesday, 22 February 2005 21:26 (twenty-one years ago)

Hey gang
I just realized last night that I have a year-anniversary performance evaluation coming up at the beginning of April so I'm going to take another extended ILX-posting-from-work hiatus. I'll still be around occasionally in the evenings, but if there are any big Chicago ILX haps, it would be cool if people would email or even call us so we can come hang out. See ya!

n/a (Nick A.), Wednesday, 23 February 2005 14:35 (twenty-one years ago)

Anyone want to do anything tonight? Get together, watch a movie, hang out?

n/a (Nick A.), Saturday, 26 February 2005 18:09 (twenty-one years ago)

I'll even let someone else pick out the movie, due to my bad luck with picking flicks for when we all hang out. Anyways, give us a call if you're interested.

n/a (Nick A.), Saturday, 26 February 2005 18:11 (twenty-one years ago)

I was going to the Keith Fullerton Whitman show, but I don't know the status of it since Subtle the headlining act was in a car accident yesterday.

Jeff-PTTL (Jeff), Saturday, 26 February 2005 18:26 (twenty-one years ago)

I sort of want to see Constantine. Not that I think it is going to be good, but it might be fun.

Jeff-PTTL (Jeff), Saturday, 26 February 2005 18:26 (twenty-one years ago)

I'm still thinking of seeing Wong Kar-wai's In The Mood for Love at the Siskel Film Center. To wit:

“Boldly mannered yet surprisingly delicate, IN THE MOOD FOR LOVE is a wondrously perverse movie.” -- J. Hoberman, The Village Voice.

“This may be one of the swooniest movies ever made about love, and it luxuriates in its tailspin.” -- Elvis Mitchell, The New York Times.

Like beautiful creatures caught forever in a piece of amber, Mr. Chow (Leung) and Mrs. Chan (Cheung) are gorgeously suspended in an atmosphere made up in equal parts of longing and inhibition. Neighbors whose spouses are having an affair, the two fall into an almost wordless empathy in the close confines of a Hong Kong tenement in 1962. Tony Leung won Best Actor at the 2000 Cannes Film Festival for his role. In Cantonese with English subtitles. 35mm. (BS)

Fish fingers all in a line (kenan), Saturday, 26 February 2005 18:29 (twenty-one years ago)

We should spend some time appreciating 7 wives restaurant in chinatown.

djdee2005 (djdee2005), Saturday, 26 February 2005 18:29 (twenty-one years ago)

I just watched The Matrix on HBO, so I think I'm done with Keanu at least for the day.

Fish fingers all in a line (kenan), Saturday, 26 February 2005 18:30 (twenty-one years ago)

In the Mood for Love is wonderful. I'd be down with that if my show is canceled.

Jeff-PTTL (Jeff), Saturday, 26 February 2005 18:34 (twenty-one years ago)

I think Jessa will be out for the evening -- she's having dinner with a head honcho at Penguin, who, it is speculated, has some kind of offer to make her. A book deal? We have no idea.

Fish fingers all in a line (kenan), Saturday, 26 February 2005 18:37 (twenty-one years ago)

does anyone want to see "nobody knows" at the music box tonight???

i like ITMFL, but i've seen it like 10 times. (ok, maybe 4.)

Amateur(ist) (Amateur(ist)), Saturday, 26 February 2005 18:38 (twenty-one years ago)

nobody knows = new japanese film about kids abandoned in an apartment by their mother. directed by hirokazu kore-eda. supposed to be quite excellent if intense.

Amateur(ist) (Amateur(ist)), Saturday, 26 February 2005 18:39 (twenty-one years ago)

also, what is playing at the lasalle bank? that can always be fun.

Amateur(ist) (Amateur(ist)), Saturday, 26 February 2005 18:39 (twenty-one years ago)

http://spacefinder.chicagoreader.com/movies/briefs/7807_ROAD_HOUSE.html

Fish fingers all in a line (kenan), Saturday, 26 February 2005 18:40 (twenty-one years ago)

meh.

Fish fingers all in a line (kenan), Saturday, 26 February 2005 18:41 (twenty-one years ago)

THEY'RE SHOWING A MOVIE CALLED "ROAD HOUSE" AND IT'S NOT THE PATRICK SWAYZE CLASSIC?!?!?!?!

anyway what do you think about the music box???

Amateur(ist) (Amateur(ist)), Saturday, 26 February 2005 18:41 (twenty-one years ago)

http://onfilm.chicagoreader.com/movies/briefs/26859_NOBODY_KNOWS.html

Amateur(ist) (Amateur(ist)), Saturday, 26 February 2005 18:42 (twenty-one years ago)

Not that I would drag anyone to a movie they've seen four times, but I've never even been to the Siskel Film center. And I LOVE Nat King Cole. :)

Fish fingers all in a line (kenan), Saturday, 26 February 2005 18:43 (twenty-one years ago)

:-(

i've spent altogether too much time at the siskel center (the present location and the previous one).....

well have fun...

Amateur(ist) (Amateur(ist)), Saturday, 26 February 2005 18:44 (twenty-one years ago)

'k.

Fish fingers all in a line (kenan), Saturday, 26 February 2005 18:49 (twenty-one years ago)

I forgot we have dinner plans for tonight already. So no movie for me..

Jeff-PTTL (Jeff), Saturday, 26 February 2005 23:33 (twenty-one years ago)

So...my friends' band from Madison, Ric Rac Attack, is playing at the Ice Factory this Friday. So that's where we'll be if anyone wants to hang out. They're kind of twee but they're really good and all their songs are really short.

n/a (Nick A.), Wednesday, 2 March 2005 13:41 (twenty-one years ago)

They're like the Teletubbies of rock.

(I kid, I liked them but and the drummer/singer is especially good, but they are very twee yes)

Jordan (Jordan), Wednesday, 2 March 2005 14:16 (twenty-one years ago)

Sorry dudes, Canasta's playing at the Empty Bottle on Friday!

jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 2 March 2005 14:24 (twenty-one years ago)

Yeah, and I'm going to the Time Out Chicago release party. I don't know what they're releasing exactly. Doesn't matter. It's going to be me and a few hundred other hipsters subtly angling for one of about three positions in the publishing industry in all of Chicago.

(Times like this I have to admit -- I'm going to have to suck it up and move to New York one day.)

Fish fingers all in a line (kenan), Wednesday, 2 March 2005 15:46 (twenty-one years ago)

What do you mean, you don't know what they're releasing? The magazine, right? I mean, the first issue?

jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 2 March 2005 16:29 (twenty-one years ago)

Yeah, you're right. I guess it got moved back even more. Last I heard, they were launching in November, and I've been seeing signs on busses for a couple months, so I assumed it had launched already.

Fish fingers all in a line (kenan), Wednesday, 2 March 2005 19:07 (twenty-one years ago)

No, I think the ads have all just been teasers. I've been hearing "spring" for the last few months. (My friend Sarah is doing some freelance photography for them, which is how a picture of Canasta at Subterranean ended up in the mini promo poster they sent in the mail.)

jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 2 March 2005 19:29 (twenty-one years ago)

Is it spring yet?

I'm going to sleep a lot this weekend.

Jeff-PTTL (Jeff), Wednesday, 2 March 2005 22:55 (twenty-one years ago)

My sister took me to Henri Bendel when I went to visit her for her graduation. I was sad to find out that it's owned by The Limited because it has the aura of an old-fashioned department store, like something out of Breakfast at Tiffany's, well, I guess like Tiffany's, which I miss.

youn, Thursday, 3 March 2005 03:35 (twenty-one years ago)

For as cold as it has been the last couple days, it is damn near springlike today. The sun is beautiful.

jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 3 March 2005 16:22 (twenty-one years ago)

mmm... a beautiful 28 degrees. Yeah, the sun makes world of difference.

Fish fingers all in a line (kenan), Thursday, 3 March 2005 16:26 (twenty-one years ago)

This is the warmest February I think I've experienced since living in Austrialia at age 13. Then again, I'm from the frozen north.

And the sun blinded my shit today. I almost got hit by a car.

Dan M. (OutDatWay), Thursday, 3 March 2005 17:17 (twenty-one years ago)

Hi, my pals in this super-cute Detroit indiepop band called PAS/CAL are playing in Chicago. I hope you have time to go. They're really good. And they're adorable, if you are into boys.

http://www.pascalgoespop.com

March 12 - Chicago, Illinois (Schubas)
w/Asobi Seksu and The Ocean Blue.
After the show, come upstairs for a DJ set by members of PAS/CAL and Asobi Seksu.

phil-two (phil-two), Friday, 4 March 2005 07:50 (twenty-one years ago)

Dudes, I'm sending you all an email too, but who wants to go see the sHINS with me????

Sarah McLusky (coco), Friday, 4 March 2005 15:30 (twenty-one years ago)

I was able to buy my ticket online at ticketmaster just now, even though they supposedly don't go on sale until tomorrow morning... but with fees it was almost $40!! (for a $20 ticket) I'm going anyway because I'm crazy.

Sarah McLusky (coco), Friday, 4 March 2005 17:06 (twenty-one years ago)

I wouldn't mind seeing them, but the first time I saw them was at in instore in Greensboro. How big is the congress? I'm scared of big venues.

Jeff-PTTL (Jeff), Friday, 4 March 2005 17:15 (twenty-one years ago)

If I remember right, the Congress probably holds about 2-3000 (?) I've only been there once, though. Fugazi, Shellac & the Ex. Best concert ever, maybe.

Dan M. (OutDatWay), Friday, 4 March 2005 17:23 (twenty-one years ago)

Yup: Capacity: 2,890 seats (2,100 floor , 790 balcony)

I've been there once, too. It was for Belle & Sebastian. Didn't mind the size of the venue too much because a) I was able to get a spot in front of the stage pretty quickly (of course, I'd stood in line for a while), and b) it doesn't feel nearly as neon and corporate at some other venues of its size.

Actually, I just remembered, I went to a Green Party rally there, too! I saw Cornel West and Patti Smith!

jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 4 March 2005 17:35 (twenty-one years ago)

Anyway, I like the Shins, but I don't know if I want to spend that much $ on a show of theirs.

jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 4 March 2005 17:36 (twenty-one years ago)

:-(

Sarah McLusky (coco), Friday, 4 March 2005 17:41 (twenty-one years ago)

then go see Pas/cal. Phil is right, you know. (xpost)

youn, Friday, 4 March 2005 17:41 (twenty-one years ago)

I just wanted to mention that I keep meeting kids in my program who are "from," and hate, Chicago.

"When were you in Chicago?" I ask.

"I just came from the U of C," they say. "Chicago blows."

"Did you ever get out of Hyde Park?" I ask.

"No," they say, as if I've asked a stupid question.

nabiscothingy, Friday, 4 March 2005 18:30 (twenty-one years ago)

but there's a harold's fried chicken in hyde park. how could they hate it

phil-two (phil-two), Friday, 4 March 2005 18:32 (twenty-one years ago)

*sigh*

It's really a puzzler how you live in a place with 26 miles of fabulous coastline, and never leave the university campus. How do they do it?

Fish fingers all in a line (kenan), Friday, 4 March 2005 18:34 (twenty-one years ago)

it IS a problem. if you don't have a car, it can be a real pain to get out of hyde park. i know a lot of people down there who only have the sketchiest idea of what the rest of the city has to offer. it often seems like they are from another planet, not simply living in a different chicago neighborhood.

Amateur(ist) (Amateur(ist)), Friday, 4 March 2005 18:48 (twenty-one years ago)

hyde park is very weird. it's a lovely neighborhood, but there really isn't much to "do."

Amateur(ist) (Amateur(ist)), Friday, 4 March 2005 18:49 (twenty-one years ago)

there is a remote possibility i might end up living there in the fall....

Amateur(ist) (Amateur(ist)), Friday, 4 March 2005 18:50 (twenty-one years ago)

Except become afraid to leave it. There's... (whispers)... there's black people out there.

Fish fingers all in a line (kenan), Friday, 4 March 2005 18:50 (twenty-one years ago)

xpost, obv

Fish fingers all in a line (kenan), Friday, 4 March 2005 18:51 (twenty-one years ago)

i really don't think the "black people" thing is fair, kenan. hyde park itself is pretty multiracial in a very non-token way.

Amateur(ist) (Amateur(ist)), Friday, 4 March 2005 18:51 (twenty-one years ago)

although i agree this can be a problem, i think the lack of el service to hyde park is a bigger one.

Amateur(ist) (Amateur(ist)), Friday, 4 March 2005 18:52 (twenty-one years ago)

The whole South side has a different vibe to it, Hyda Park or no. The first time I took a bus south of Cermack, I was surprised that the automated voice messages are different down there. The bus voice guy had never warned me not to paint graffiti on the bus before!

Fish fingers all in a line (kenan), Friday, 4 March 2005 18:54 (twenty-one years ago)

A girl from my highschool went to the U. She also never left Hyde Park, as far as I could tell. This may have been a consequence of being from the middle of nowhere and terrified of the city, but I'm not sure.

Dan M. (OutDatWay), Friday, 4 March 2005 18:54 (twenty-one years ago)

am is right. i lived there when i first moved to chicago & it's multiracial.
it is also hard to get out, but the jefferson 6 is express!

kelsey (kelstarry), Friday, 4 March 2005 18:54 (twenty-one years ago)

yeah, the 6 bus is key.

you can also take the 55 from the red line, but i understand that (esp. for a woman) waiting by the expressway for the 55 can be a little nervewracking.

Amateur(ist) (Amateur(ist)), Friday, 4 March 2005 18:58 (twenty-one years ago)

Build more train lines, ppl!

Um... I mean as soon as you're not flat broke like every other city in America.

Fish fingers all in a line (kenan), Friday, 4 March 2005 19:05 (twenty-one years ago)

When I temped at the University of Chicago for a couple weeks, I was planning my route home from work and suggested that it wouldn't be too much of a problem to walk across Washington Park and the half mile more to the Garfield red line stop, and hey, that might be fun! I like parks. The woman at the temp agency shot me a dead serious look -- "You don't want to do that." The implication was not that it was too far, but clearly that everything west of Cottage Grove Ave. was Stabbyville, and I'd be f'ing CRAZY to walk through that neighborhood. Maybe she was right -- I opted not to find out.

Fish fingers all in a line (kenan), Friday, 4 March 2005 19:12 (twenty-one years ago)

That too long to walk, K! Do you mean the green line, maybe? It's a little closer. But yeah, there's a little stretch around it that I wouldn't go waltzing around after dark.

The leaving-Hyde-Park thing isn’t too much of a problem during the day—you have to do some bussing, but no biggie. It’s at night that it’s a problem, and I think that’s why so many Hyde Parkers never get out: you’re not going to go to the north side for an evening when there’s no chance of a 6 bus back, and when taking the red line could mean standing above the Dan Ryan for an hour in the middle of the night waiting for the 55. And of course it winds up bad: students come in from out of town, get plunked into Hyde Park, and unless someone specifically drags them up to the north side to do things, there’s just not much pull to do it. The only good tradeoff is that they seem to accomplish more down there, both academically and socially: I think it takes on some of the same make-your-own-fun vibe as genuine small college towns. (You just have to adjust for the U of C student body’s particular idea of “fun.”)

Anyway my problem is less that these people don’t get out of Hyde Park, and more that they go around saying Chicago sucks. That’d be like spending four years where I am right now (Rego Park, Queens) and then saying New York sucks ass, it’s all just Russians, bagel shops, and strip clubs.

nabiscothingy, Friday, 4 March 2005 19:20 (twenty-one years ago)

Not that there's anything wrong with Russians or bagel shops. (I can't really judge "Wiggles.")

nabiscothingy, Friday, 4 March 2005 19:21 (twenty-one years ago)

I was gonna say, sounds pretty good to me!

jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 4 March 2005 19:22 (twenty-one years ago)

xxpost Yeah, the green line. You're right. The red line is a lot further than a half mile.

These problems are only going to compund, as they're considering cancelling all-night train service on all lines.

Fish fingers all in a line (kenan), Friday, 4 March 2005 19:24 (twenty-one years ago)

Wait, I haven't heard of this -- that'd be terrible!

jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 4 March 2005 19:26 (twenty-one years ago)

WTF?? Is "Slow Down, Chicago" the new CTA theme song? If I move back I'm gonna have to buy a car again. :(

nabiscothingy, Friday, 4 March 2005 19:26 (twenty-one years ago)

It was discussed, I read. I doubt they're actually going to do that, as it would indeed be terrible. But the CTA is cutting back in one way or another, and limiting service is the first way they think of doing it. Either that or raise fares, which they just did like, a year ago, and are loathe to do again so soon.

I'm just worried that the trains soon won't be good for *anything* except getting to work and back, and then only if you work regular hours.

Fish fingers all in a line (kenan), Friday, 4 March 2005 19:28 (twenty-one years ago)

Not yet, N., but my friend Eric has an idea for the video which would involve us all riding the el separately on our morning commutes and singing along on the platform, in the train car, etc.

jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 4 March 2005 19:29 (twenty-one years ago)

the CTA has been more erratic lately than it's been in 25 years, from my vantage point. lots of "we are being delayed..." announcements, late trains, etc.

Amateur(ist) (Amateur(ist)), Friday, 4 March 2005 19:31 (twenty-one years ago)

(Back when you were looking for graphic design, J, I kept imagining the black-on-white speedy-train thing from the CTA transfer cards, with "Chicago Slow Down!" written in above the magnetic strip. And then, below that, a giant penis with a flag planted in it that said "Canasta.")

nabiscothingy, Friday, 4 March 2005 19:36 (twenty-one years ago)

ouch

Amateur(ist) (Amateur(ist)), Friday, 4 March 2005 19:38 (twenty-one years ago)

I just hope all the yuppies and trixes revolt if they cancel all night service on the red line.

Did everyone see this?

http://www.gapersblock.com/detour/a_cta_map_for_2055/index.php

oh, pipedreams.

Jeff-PTTL (Jeff), Friday, 4 March 2005 19:38 (twenty-one years ago)

N, you told me about the transfer card idea. Not the penis idea, though. Hmmm.

jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 4 March 2005 19:42 (twenty-one years ago)

The penis idea is a new addition. It came to me in a dream. Momus appeared, dressed in Kanye West's bear suit, and said: "Lo, let there be a penis in it."

All I need, train-wise, is that yellow cirly bit that lets you shoot from the northside red line to Wicker Park, Ukranian Village, and west of the Loop. Taking the North Ave bus or going all the way down to the Loop were both just a little too much for lazy-me -- just hard enough for me to waste loads of money on cabs instead.

nabiscothingy, Friday, 4 March 2005 19:44 (twenty-one years ago)

OMG I am fascinated by that Gaper's Block article. I love shit like that. (As a kid, one of my favorite things to do ever was to draw political maps of imaginary countries, street maps of imaginary towns, floor plans of imaginary schools, etc.)

jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 4 March 2005 19:56 (twenty-one years ago)

Those are all fantastic ideas, and somebody's got to start selling them very soon before New York is truly the only American city that you can live in without a car.

Fish fingers all in a line (kenan), Friday, 4 March 2005 20:02 (twenty-one years ago)

do they sell segways with large plastic bubbles attached, like the popemobile?

Amateur(ist) (Amateur(ist)), Saturday, 5 March 2005 00:51 (twenty-one years ago)

WTF? High of 63 today?

Jeff-PTTL (Jeff), Sunday, 6 March 2005 15:45 (twenty-one years ago)

i just met one of the U of C students described above--he was accepted into my program and came out to visit. He lives in Hyde Park, but was asking me all kinds of Chicago questions. Or rather, I was asking if he had been certain places, and a blank look registered on his face. At least he copped to his lack of knowledge, and was a nice kid in general.

robots in love (robotsinlove), Sunday, 6 March 2005 19:15 (twenty-one years ago)

WTF? High of 63 today?

Are you complaining?

I have the windows wide open and some smooth beats comin' out da speakers. Life is good.

Fish fingers all in a line (kenan), Sunday, 6 March 2005 20:39 (twenty-one years ago)

Speaking of which, Mark, there's a dude I know who just got accepted to UCI for critical theory -- he might be interested in talking to you.

jaymc (jaymc), Sunday, 6 March 2005 20:47 (twenty-one years ago)

I want a milkshake.

n/a (Nick A.), Sunday, 6 March 2005 20:50 (twenty-one years ago)

Oh, man... I just found a cassette labelled "summer 1999." It does indeed sound exactly like summer 1999 sounded to me. Remember Kruder and Dorfmeister? DJ Vadim? Fila Brisilia? Oh, the downbeat. The wonderful, wonderful downbeat. I'm back in Austin, I'm telling you, totally transported. Must... smoke... weed!

This is the best day of my life.

Fish fingers all in a line (kenan), Sunday, 6 March 2005 20:52 (twenty-one years ago)

mmm... time for a new user name, I think.

sunburned and snowblind (kenan), Sunday, 6 March 2005 20:56 (twenty-one years ago)

john,

feel free to pass along my infos to this guy. it's the time of the year to play cheerleader/tour guide.

how do you know him? (we can move this off board)

robots in love (robotsinlove), Monday, 7 March 2005 01:46 (twenty-one years ago)

The lake front was packed this afternoon.

Jeff-PTTL (Jeff), Monday, 7 March 2005 02:00 (twenty-one years ago)

So I biked down to belmont via the lake front path, but it was so crowded, I came back up through the city down grace, then up sheriden and broadway, and almost got hit like 7 times. I'm going to die on my bike this spring.

Jeff-PTTL (Jeff), Monday, 7 March 2005 02:17 (twenty-one years ago)

I walked like 4 miles today! For fun!

jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 7 March 2005 02:21 (twenty-one years ago)

Then I went to Whitecastle, for the first time ever. I was expecting better. Fries were okay.

Jeff-PTTL (Jeff), Monday, 7 March 2005 02:47 (twenty-one years ago)

Then I went to Whitecastle, for the first time ever. I was expecting better.

Oh, man. I ate at White Castle once. Once. Never again.

sunburned and snowblind (kenan), Monday, 7 March 2005 03:53 (twenty-one years ago)

I have never ever eaten at White Castle. Growing up, there was a White Castle in our town, but that's where all the "evil gays" hung out, so I always assumed that meant it was a bar. Sadly, after we moved away, some crazy, homophobic guy went in there and shot the place up. :-(

I love Chicago. I loved it even when it was cold, but this weekend made me excited about living here all over again.

Sarah McLusky (coco), Monday, 7 March 2005 14:37 (twenty-one years ago)

That is messed up, Sarah.

I've only had White Castle once and it was in Chicago.

(It was disgusting.)

Jordan (Jordan), Monday, 7 March 2005 17:41 (twenty-one years ago)

I walk by a White Castle every day on the way to the train. It consistently has lots of haggard looking people getting coffee and giant flocks of pigeons eating various stuff lying around in the parking lot. It also looks as if it's ready to survive a direct assult from a SWAT team. I've never stopped in.

Dan M. (OutDatWay), Monday, 7 March 2005 17:45 (twenty-one years ago)

Oh, forgot to ask: anyone going to see The Hold Steady tomorrow night?

Dan M. (OutDatWay), Monday, 7 March 2005 17:51 (twenty-one years ago)

I am most likely going.

Jeff-PTTL (Jeff), Monday, 7 March 2005 20:41 (twenty-one years ago)

oh how i love hold steady/lifter puller. craig, the lead singer is so dreamy.

the marbles (robert schneider from apples in stereo) is playing in chicago at martyrs (??) on march 11th

phil-two (phil-two), Monday, 7 March 2005 20:46 (twenty-one years ago)

oh how i love hold steady/lifter puller.

Two times. I can't fucking wait, except for the being destroyed at work the next day part.

Dan M. (OutDatWay), Monday, 7 March 2005 20:48 (twenty-one years ago)

is there a new album out or coming soon or something?

phil-two (phil-two), Monday, 7 March 2005 20:49 (twenty-one years ago)

I've only had White Castle once and it was in Chicago.

(It was disgusting.)

It really is. Grey meat covered in grey onions. They don't even try to disguise the fact that it's disgusting. Would a dollop of ketchup really drive up their food budget that much? I mean, you could at least try to trick me!

sunburned and snowblind (kenan), Monday, 7 March 2005 20:52 (twenty-one years ago)

I might try to catch United State of Electronica at the Bottom Lounge on Thursday. I think they're stuck in the middle of like a five-band bill or something. Weird.

jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 7 March 2005 20:53 (twenty-one years ago)

is there a new album out or coming soon or something?
Yep. I found an mp3 off it here. Rumor has the whole thing has been leaked, but I haven't seen it.

Dan M. (OutDatWay), Monday, 7 March 2005 20:56 (twenty-one years ago)

is there a new album out or coming soon or something?
Yep. I found an mp3 off it here. Rumor has it the whole thing has been leaked, but I haven't seen it.

Dan M. (OutDatWay), Monday, 7 March 2005 20:56 (twenty-one years ago)

It has been leaked, the whole album is awesome.

Jeff-PTTL (Jeff), Monday, 7 March 2005 21:00 (twenty-one years ago)

I knew it! I'm redoubling my efforts.

Dan M. (OutDatWay), Monday, 7 March 2005 21:03 (twenty-one years ago)

I got it from http://indietorrents.com/

Jeff-PTTL (Jeff), Monday, 7 March 2005 21:05 (twenty-one years ago)

it's invite only??

phil-two (phil-two), Monday, 7 March 2005 21:06 (twenty-one years ago)

It's times like these I have second thoughts about d/l-ing stuff. I think I'm going to wait and see if there's any advance copies to be had at the show. Torture, motherfucker!

Dan M. (OutDatWay), Monday, 7 March 2005 21:14 (twenty-one years ago)

(and keep FEEEEDIN you, and FEEEEDIN you...)

sunburned and snowblind (kenan), Monday, 7 March 2005 21:25 (twenty-one years ago)

Yesterday: 63 degrees and sunny. Today: snow. Fucking shit.

sunburned and snowblind (kenan), Monday, 7 March 2005 21:28 (twenty-one years ago)

(haha I like how that post goes so well with my handle.)

sunburned and snowblind (kenan), Monday, 7 March 2005 21:32 (twenty-one years ago)

xpost - Yeah. Of course this happens the day I decide to forgo my heavier coat for a hoodie. The walk home should be nice and drafty.

Dan M. (OutDatWay), Monday, 7 March 2005 21:33 (twenty-one years ago)

I love the way it's 40 degrees in New York but they're about to get kicked in the ass with the same storm. We may be the second city, but we suffer the weather first.

BTW -- 22 degrees now. It was 17 when I woke up this morning.

sunburned and snowblind (kenan), Tuesday, 8 March 2005 16:51 (twenty-one years ago)

I love the weather today. 20s and sunny is my ideal Chicago weather. Perfect for a medium weight jacket and a bike ride.

Jeff-PTTL (Jeff), Tuesday, 8 March 2005 18:04 (twenty-one years ago)

Jeff, You are crazy.

In other news, I'm going to pick up my youngest sister from the airport after work today. And Friday afternoon, my mom and other sis will be here too! Woo hoo! Family McLusky hits Chicago!

Sarah McLusky (coco), Tuesday, 8 March 2005 18:48 (twenty-one years ago)

i'm leaving for new orleans in t-minus 5 minutes!!!!

kelsey (kelstarry), Tuesday, 8 March 2005 20:00 (twenty-one years ago)

Bye, and have fun!!

jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 8 March 2005 20:01 (twenty-one years ago)

Ditto!

Sarah McLusky (coco), Tuesday, 8 March 2005 21:03 (twenty-one years ago)

Have fun! Eat po' boys! See brass bands!

deathlike technical blasting death metal with a soul of suicidal rationalis (Jor, Tuesday, 8 March 2005 21:24 (twenty-one years ago)

Wow, the hold steady was great.

Jeff-PTTL (Jeff), Wednesday, 9 March 2005 14:03 (twenty-one years ago)

Yeah they were. My head hurts. Stupid beer.

Dan M. (OutDatWay), Wednesday, 9 March 2005 14:41 (twenty-one years ago)

how is nick coping with the onslaught of females?

Amateur(ist) (Amateur(ist)), Wednesday, 9 March 2005 19:13 (twenty-one years ago)

Dodge! Parry!

sunburned and snowblind (kenan), Wednesday, 9 March 2005 19:14 (twenty-one years ago)

Renee and I are going to see United State of Electronica tomorrow night, if anyone's interested.

After that, there are like four shows I want to see in April alone (Dizzee Rascal, Out Hud, M83, Phoenix).

jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 9 March 2005 19:18 (twenty-one years ago)

you specifically want to see them alone??

i would love to go actually but can't. but i should start going to more shows.

Amateur(ist) (Amateur(ist)), Wednesday, 9 March 2005 19:21 (twenty-one years ago)

"April alone," not "see alone." English, damn you.

jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 9 March 2005 19:23 (twenty-one years ago)

nice save.

when and where are phoenix playing? i'm game if you're game. for phoenix, that is.

Amateur(ist) (Amateur(ist)), Wednesday, 9 March 2005 19:25 (twenty-one years ago)

Who's this April? Have I met her?

sunburned and snowblind (kenan), Wednesday, 9 March 2005 19:26 (twenty-one years ago)

(xpost) Metro, believe it or not! April 10.

jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 9 March 2005 19:26 (twenty-one years ago)

hopefully it's not too pricey. i haven't been to metro since a guided by voices concert in like 1997 or something. i don't know if i should admit to having seen guided by voices in concert.

Amateur(ist) (Amateur(ist)), Wednesday, 9 March 2005 19:31 (twenty-one years ago)

jaymc-Unfortunately I will probably not be able to make it to radio radio Friday, as I am still battling a cold and people who would have wanted to go are all exhausted from exams and grading as it's the start of Spring Break.

jocelyn (Jocelyn), Wednesday, 9 March 2005 19:33 (twenty-one years ago)

xpost Yeah, how gauche.

(?)

sunburned and snowblind (kenan), Wednesday, 9 March 2005 19:33 (twenty-one years ago)

Jocelyn -- awww, too bad. Some other time, hopefully!

jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 9 March 2005 19:33 (twenty-one years ago)

i'm not really embarrassed, kenan, it's just that the knives seem to come out whenever gbv are mentioned around here.

xpost

Amateur(ist) (Amateur(ist)), Wednesday, 9 March 2005 19:34 (twenty-one years ago)

Amateurist -- Phoenix tix are $14.

Jeff and Jenny saw both of the final GBV shows in December!

jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 9 March 2005 19:35 (twenty-one years ago)

You're among friends on this thread, Amst.

sunburned and snowblind (kenan), Wednesday, 9 March 2005 19:35 (twenty-one years ago)

I'm probably going to see Centro-matic and the Baptist Generals this friday night. And Xiu Xiu on the 24th. Eluvium on the 31st.

Jeff-PTTL (Jeff), Wednesday, 9 March 2005 19:37 (twenty-one years ago)

http://photos3.flickr.com/6203781_d9c30db76b.jpg

Jeff-PTTL (Jeff), Wednesday, 9 March 2005 19:44 (twenty-one years ago)

yeah, i'm a big dork.

Jeff-PTTL (Jeff), Wednesday, 9 March 2005 19:44 (twenty-one years ago)

wow

jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 9 March 2005 19:45 (twenty-one years ago)

That's awesome.

sunburned and snowblind (kenan), Wednesday, 9 March 2005 19:52 (twenty-one years ago)

I've got something like that in mind for the Lifter Puller reunion/final show poster I've got. All I really have to do is get off my ass and get it framed.

Dan M. (OutDatWay), Wednesday, 9 March 2005 20:26 (twenty-one years ago)

is the frame under your ass?

Amateur(ist) (Amateur(ist)), Wednesday, 9 March 2005 20:27 (twenty-one years ago)

Nice framing is expensive, just the mats alone for that piece cost $80.

Jeff-PTTL (Jeff), Wednesday, 9 March 2005 20:29 (twenty-one years ago)

i once tried to frame a big poster i have and was quoted (wait for it) $350

why is framing so costly?

Amateur(ist) (Amateur(ist)), Wednesday, 9 March 2005 20:30 (twenty-one years ago)

xpost I was about to say, "get off my ass and get it framed" leaves out the step where you "get together a fat wad of cash."

sunburned and snowblind (kenan), Wednesday, 9 March 2005 20:31 (twenty-one years ago)

Beats me! The whole GBV poster was $300, and I had a 20% off coupon.

Jeff-PTTL (Jeff), Wednesday, 9 March 2005 20:31 (twenty-one years ago)

why is framing so costly?

because it can be. Because if you care enough to frame it, odds are you care enough to pay a lot to frame it. It's a good racket, framing.

sunburned and snowblind (kenan), Wednesday, 9 March 2005 20:32 (twenty-one years ago)

I was mostly thinking of doing it myself. Or making my friend who goes to the Art Institute do it since she eats my food all the time.

Dan M. (OutDatWay), Wednesday, 9 March 2005 20:36 (twenty-one years ago)

i hate getting all excited when you've found some nice poster for under $50 and then it's like, oh fuck, i forgot, i have to spend another $150 on this.

Amateur(ist) (Amateur(ist)), Wednesday, 9 March 2005 20:36 (twenty-one years ago)

xpost

can i meet this friend?

Amateur(ist) (Amateur(ist)), Wednesday, 9 March 2005 20:36 (twenty-one years ago)

Yeah, I'm sure you could. It's a big city though, better start introducing yourself to random women.

Dan M. (OutDatWay), Wednesday, 9 March 2005 20:39 (twenty-one years ago)

By the way, Dan, have you been in Chicago all this time and just been studiously avoiding us?

jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 9 March 2005 20:42 (twenty-one years ago)

I've got something like that in mind for the Lifter Puller reunion/final show poster I've got

the one at brownies in nyc? i was there too!

phil-two (phil-two), Wednesday, 9 March 2005 20:45 (twenty-one years ago)

I'm not avoiding anyone, I'm just shy and lame.

It was the second show for the grand opening weekend of the Triple Rock Social Club in Minneapolis. I drove 7 hours for that show, thinking I was the biggest fan. Then I met the guy who drove from San Francisco and had "LFTR PLLR" tattooed on his knuckles. Good times.

Dan M. (OutDatWay), Wednesday, 9 March 2005 20:48 (twenty-one years ago)

I'm not avoiding anyone, I'm just shy and lame.

Hey, that's cool. I just hadn't seen you on this thread until recently, so I didn't know if you had just recently moved here or something.

jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 9 March 2005 20:58 (twenty-one years ago)

No prob. I've been lurking around a bit. And yeah, I did just move here... well, in October.

Dan M. (OutDatWay), Wednesday, 9 March 2005 21:00 (twenty-one years ago)

Come to the next FAP, whenever that might be.

I've really stopped drinking this time though, at least for the next 5 weeks, due to a change in meds.

Jeff-PTTL (Jeff), Wednesday, 9 March 2005 22:33 (twenty-one years ago)

no no dan, i just want free poster frames!

Amateur(ist) (Amateur(ist)), Wednesday, 9 March 2005 22:35 (twenty-one years ago)

haha Quitting drinking *is* a change in meds!

sunburned and snowblind (kenan), Wednesday, 9 March 2005 22:36 (twenty-one years ago)

FAP

Sure, OK. I'm down for pretty much whatever, whenever.

I'll inquire about the picture frames too, just in case. She'll probably laugh and tell me to go to Ikea or some shit.

Dan M. (OutDatWay), Wednesday, 9 March 2005 23:14 (twenty-one years ago)

i was actually kidding about the frames, too, kinda.

Amateur(ist) (Amateur(ist)), Thursday, 10 March 2005 00:44 (twenty-one years ago)

Please look at this link and tell me what you think:
www.ausl-chicago.org
I'm very seriously considering it, to the point of taking the Illinois Basic Skills test this Saturday. I don't know how much longer I can take working in an office.

n/a (Nick A.), Thursday, 10 March 2005 13:51 (twenty-one years ago)

Wow Nick, that seems like it would be a pretty cool thing to do if you think you can handle it, also a pretty big committment. Have you ever taught before?

Jordan (Jordan), Thursday, 10 March 2005 15:00 (twenty-one years ago)

Not really. I helped in a kindergarten class for a while as part of a developmental psych project. But that's about it.
Chicago peeps: how scary are Chicago elementary/middle schools? Ones that would be "underperforming" by state levels, that is.
It is a big commitment. That's the scariest thing about it. But I'm considering it...

n/a (Nick A.), Thursday, 10 March 2005 18:36 (twenty-one years ago)

If you did this, it would make you the person I know who is most directly involved in making the world a better place.

sunburned and snowblind (kenan), Thursday, 10 March 2005 18:41 (twenty-one years ago)


I think you would enjoy working in the elementary schools more than you would the high schools. High school is where the difficult cases are.

Yr3k (dymaxia), Thursday, 10 March 2005 19:36 (twenty-one years ago)

Yeah, elementary school sounds a little more appealing. Then again, it could be because I'm kind of an immature person.

On a similar note, I was looking into Teach For America a little while back. Might be another option to consider. A friend of mine did it and swears it was one of the best decisions he ever made.

Dan M. (OutDatWay), Thursday, 10 March 2005 20:08 (twenty-one years ago)

nick, if you want to talk to somebody who's taught in CPS, let me know...

Amateur(ist) (Amateur(ist)), Thursday, 10 March 2005 20:13 (twenty-one years ago)

Oh I would never ever do high school. I don't want to teach anyone bigger than me, and since I'm only 5'8", that limits me to middle or high school. I would probably go for like fifth grade or so. I don't know. It's kinda crazy.

n/a (Nick A.), Friday, 11 March 2005 01:25 (twenty-one years ago)

http://www.fun-shop-online.de/images/509830.jpg

Amateur(ist) (Amateur(ist)), Friday, 11 March 2005 01:34 (twenty-one years ago)

Hey folks
i'm going home to chicago for the next 2 weeks! Someone tell me whats going on.

djdee (djdee2005), Friday, 11 March 2005 01:43 (twenty-one years ago)

(events, concerts, etc)

djdee (djdee2005), Friday, 11 March 2005 01:44 (twenty-one years ago)

stars are playing saturday night!

Amateur(ist) (Amateur(ist)), Friday, 11 March 2005 06:07 (twenty-one years ago)

I'm what's going on, baby.

sunburned and snowblind (kenan), Friday, 11 March 2005 06:10 (twenty-one years ago)

*winks gratuitously*

Amateur(ist) (Amateur(ist)), Friday, 11 March 2005 06:18 (twenty-one years ago)

Aw man, djdee, it's gonna be a busy two weeks for me (gone almost every weekend for the rest of the month). I'd like to meet up, though!

jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 11 March 2005 06:54 (twenty-one years ago)

I'm planning on hitting up the organ trio at the green mill this weekend but other than that, i need activities.

djdee (djdee2005), Friday, 11 March 2005 08:02 (twenty-one years ago)

Is that the Sabertooth thing? I don't know if I mentioned it from my Chicago weekend, but holy shit is their drummer (Ted Sirota) good.

Jordan (Jordan), Friday, 11 March 2005 14:52 (twenty-one years ago)

U.S.E. last night was a BLAST and A HALF, you guys.

jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 11 March 2005 15:26 (twenty-one years ago)

am, were you going to see Stars or did you just mention it cuz I did?

Sarah McLusky (coco), Friday, 11 March 2005 15:59 (twenty-one years ago)

did you mention it? are you guys going? i might be going.

Amateur(ist) (Amateur(ist)), Friday, 11 March 2005 15:59 (twenty-one years ago)

I REALLY want to go, but this is the weekend my family is visiting.

Sarah McLusky (coco), Friday, 11 March 2005 16:39 (twenty-one years ago)

you mean you're not taking your mom to the bottle?

Amateur(ist) (Amateur(ist)), Friday, 11 March 2005 16:41 (twenty-one years ago)

Is that the Sabertooth thing? I don't know if I mentioned it from my Chicago weekend, but holy shit is their drummer (Ted Sirota) good.

I think so, yeah - make that organ quartet.

djdee (djdee2005), Friday, 11 March 2005 16:48 (twenty-one years ago)

you mean you're not taking your mom to the bottle?

My mom took to the bottle herself. No help from me.

sunburned and snowblind (kenan), Friday, 11 March 2005 17:04 (twenty-one years ago)

ok, henny youngman

Amateur(ist) (Amateur(ist)), Friday, 11 March 2005 17:06 (twenty-one years ago)

What do Stars sound like. I'm looking at Centro-matic/Baptist Generals tonight. Anyone else like them?

Jeff-PTTL (Jeff), Friday, 11 March 2005 19:22 (twenty-one years ago)

stars sound like

http://www.argos.co.uk/wcsstore/argos/images/4503778A58IFN73013M.JPG

Amateur(ist) (Amateur(ist)), Friday, 11 March 2005 19:28 (twenty-one years ago)

"Too comfortable by far" is such a great tagline. There should be a TV ad campaign based on the testimonials of people who used that blanket and woke up with a long white beard.

sunburned and snowblind (kenan), Friday, 11 March 2005 19:33 (twenty-one years ago)

I think Stars is playing in Madison tonight.

Jordan (Jordan), Friday, 11 March 2005 20:04 (twenty-one years ago)

so nobody's up to see them in chicago tomorrow?

Amateur(ist) (Amateur(ist)), Saturday, 12 March 2005 00:24 (twenty-one years ago)

man, i had too much sangria this afternoon, and now i'm in an awful mood.

Amateur(ist) (Amateur(ist)), Saturday, 12 March 2005 00:34 (twenty-one years ago)

So, did anyone see Stars?? I ended up buying the album yesterday at Reckless, since I didn't get to buy it in person.

Anywho, my family is gone. I had a lot of fun, but now I want to hang out with the cool kids. Anyone going to see Silkworm Friday?

Sarah McLusky (coco), Monday, 14 March 2005 17:01 (twenty years ago)

In observance of the Stars event, I listened to their album. Didn't much care for it.

sunburned and snowblind (kenan), Monday, 14 March 2005 17:03 (twenty years ago)

Hi everyone. Twelve hours ago I was driving through Tennessee. Now miraculously I am back in Chicago.

jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 14 March 2005 17:04 (twenty years ago)

I will be unemployed agane on April 7thish, there will probably be a chicago trip in my future. If I continue to fall in love with The Organ maybe I will go see them April 24 at Subterranean.

teeny (teeny), Monday, 14 March 2005 17:20 (twenty years ago)

I don't know The Organ -- what are they all about? (Subterranean is a nice club.)

jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 14 March 2005 17:26 (twenty years ago)

Staples marketing teams disguised as street performers are for the bullshit.

Dan M. (OutDatWay), Monday, 14 March 2005 18:25 (twenty years ago)

ha ha

Yay, teeny! Just let me know when you'll be around - you and Mr. Teeny can probably stay with us.


Sarah McLusky (coco), Monday, 14 March 2005 19:16 (twenty years ago)

thanks sarah! I am allergic to cats though. :''((((((((((

teeny (teeny), Monday, 14 March 2005 20:35 (twenty years ago)

B-but, we have a futon now! Oh, well. Let us know anyway.

Chicago dudes, don't forget to go to the Beat Kitchen tonight. :-D

Sarah McLusky (coco), Tuesday, 15 March 2005 14:33 (twenty years ago)

This is how sleep-deprived I am: I read that and thought, wait what's at the Beat Kitchen? Do the Fake Fictions have a show I don't know about?

I BOOKED THE FUCKING SHOW.

jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 15 March 2005 14:57 (twenty years ago)

Sam Prekop, Thursday night, record release party. Empty Bottle. I'm just sayin'.

(I despair of any of us liking the same kinds of shows, but I thought I'd throw it out there. I like quiet, breathy, jazzy little post-rock noodling. Your results may vary.)

sunburned and snowblind (kenan), Tuesday, 15 March 2005 17:29 (twenty years ago)

I would LOVE to go to that show, Kenan (Azita is opening, too!) -- but I'll be busy driving to Austin. :(

jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 15 March 2005 17:34 (twenty years ago)

(Have you heard the new Prekop? I like it.)

jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 15 March 2005 17:34 (twenty years ago)

I like it quite a lot, but I guess I was predisposed to. His first record is to my mind this kind of effortless landmark.

sunburned and snowblind (kenan), Tuesday, 15 March 2005 17:36 (twenty years ago)

Landmark in effortlessness?

sunburned and snowblind (kenan), Tuesday, 15 March 2005 17:37 (twenty years ago)

Yeah, I knew what you meant!

jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 15 March 2005 17:39 (twenty years ago)

That record is one of the reasons I moved to Chicago. I mean, I didn't have any good reasons to move, so I invented mellow jazzy reasons for myself.

sunburned and snowblind (kenan), Tuesday, 15 March 2005 17:42 (twenty years ago)

I would probably like it. Is McEntire involved?

xpost Kenan, that's fabulous.

Jordan (Jordan), Tuesday, 15 March 2005 17:43 (twenty years ago)

I don't know who's involved (no album credits on hand), but McEntire and O'Rourke wouldn't surprise me in the least.

sunburned and snowblind (kenan), Tuesday, 15 March 2005 17:46 (twenty years ago)

Oh, did you mean the first Sam Prekop album? Yeah -- O'Rourke produces, McEntire on drums, Archer Prewitt on guitar, Rob Mazurek on trumpet.

sunburned and snowblind (kenan), Tuesday, 15 March 2005 17:51 (twenty years ago)

And I don't know who did the string arrangements.

sunburned and snowblind (kenan), Tuesday, 15 March 2005 17:52 (twenty years ago)

Actually, McEntire wasn't involved on the first album. Jazz drummer Chad Taylor is behind the kit, and I think his drumming gives it a very distinct flavor.

jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 15 March 2005 18:03 (twenty years ago)

Same lineup on the new one, too. gt/vox: Prekop / gt: Prewitt / d: Taylor / b: Josh Abrams.

jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 15 March 2005 18:04 (twenty years ago)

But McEntire produced it instead of O'Rourke.

jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 15 March 2005 18:05 (twenty years ago)

I would like to purchase this product.

Jordan (Jordan), Tuesday, 15 March 2005 18:18 (twenty years ago)

John, I owe you an apology. I feel bad now for doubting you. But to be perfectly fair (from allmusic.com):

"TSAC/Tortoise percussionist, John McEntire, even turns up playing triangle and maracas on a few cuts."

Maracas! I tel you, the man is a genius on maracas.

sunburned and snowblind (kenan), Tuesday, 15 March 2005 19:50 (twenty years ago)

heh

jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 15 March 2005 19:54 (twenty years ago)

I think I've been feeling lately that one of the things I like about that first Prekop album is that it's devoid of some of the sterility that I think characterizes McEntire at his worst.

jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 15 March 2005 19:55 (twenty years ago)

For some reason I thought Teeny was talking about the Lonesome Onanist.

1st Prekop-wise: people always try not to admit it but O'Rourke is an incredible producer! Between that first Prekop and Halfway to a Threeway I think he's kind of the king of big mega-rich sounds in wide-open space. Which is great if you have a big apartment and hardwood floors. (1st Prekop was always kind of my go-to album for writing, but it just doesn't sound as good in crampy student apartments as it sounded in a big sunny Wicker Park living room.)

nabisco (nabisco), Tuesday, 15 March 2005 20:22 (twenty years ago)

im going to chicago the first week of april! there's going to be a fun party at smart bar w/ magda & matthew dear on friday april 8th. i think you all should come! and teeny too!

also does anyone want to go to old country buffet with me?

phil-two (phil-two), Tuesday, 15 March 2005 20:25 (twenty years ago)

I will go to the ends of the Earth with you, phil.

Or Old Country Buffet. Your pick.

sunburned and snowblind (kenan), Tuesday, 15 March 2005 20:28 (twenty years ago)

where is there an old country buffet in chicago?

Amateur(ist) (Amateur(ist)), Tuesday, 15 March 2005 20:30 (twenty years ago)

there's one on lincoln & touhy. by the big cineplex and the video arcade

phil-two (phil-two), Tuesday, 15 March 2005 20:31 (twenty years ago)

though its near my parents house, it seems far from everyone else, so maybe something other than OCB would be better.

phil-two (phil-two), Tuesday, 15 March 2005 20:32 (twenty years ago)

but the magda & matthew dear party is a must. you all better come. lots fun lots dance

phil-two (phil-two), Tuesday, 15 March 2005 20:32 (twenty years ago)

Hey, does anyone know of anything "special" going on anywhere about town for St. Patrick's Day? I mean something beyond the usual fake-ass Irish pub green beer kind of thing... Although alcohol is definitely a factor.

Dan M. (OutDatWay), Tuesday, 15 March 2005 20:55 (twenty years ago)

Just get drunk, like always!

"St. Patrick's Day" = "amateur night"

sunburned and snowblind (kenan), Tuesday, 15 March 2005 20:58 (twenty years ago)

Well, yeah. I usually drink in a Polish bar though. They don't do much of anything there.

Dan M. (OutDatWay), Tuesday, 15 March 2005 21:01 (twenty years ago)

I miss beer.

Luckily, my self-imposed prohibition ends exactly two days before the Belgian Beerfest at Kendall College. Finally, I can start ruining things with beer again.

Kenan OTM, New Year's Eve and St. Patrick's Day are the worst days to go out drinking.

Jeff-PTTL (Jeff), Tuesday, 15 March 2005 21:09 (twenty years ago)

umm, I've never OTM'd someone. That felt awkward.

Jeff-PTTL (Jeff), Tuesday, 15 March 2005 21:09 (twenty years ago)

Worse than Christmas Day? I've been there, that's some depressing shit.

Dan M. (OutDatWay), Tuesday, 15 March 2005 21:14 (twenty years ago)

xpost Oh, you were good! No, really! I was very close. We can try again later if you want.

sunburned and snowblind (kenan), Tuesday, 15 March 2005 21:14 (twenty years ago)

lincoln and touhy? i can't quite picture that. is that near lincolnwood?

Amateur(ist) (Amateur(ist)), Tuesday, 15 March 2005 21:18 (twenty years ago)

yeah its sort of on the border between lincolnwood and chicago. not far from the original Lou Malnatis location. and its about half mile south of lincolnwood towncenter mall where they have a GREAT STEAK & POTATO COMPANY franchise in the food court! yum yum yum.

phil-two (phil-two), Tuesday, 15 March 2005 21:39 (twenty years ago)

Good morning, Chicagoans. It looks like it's going to be a beautiful day today. :-D

Sarah McLusky (coco), Wednesday, 16 March 2005 14:12 (twenty years ago)

Can you type that every day and then have it pop up on my desktop when I wake up?

jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 16 March 2005 14:42 (twenty years ago)

It *is* a beautiful day today! Already!

I am freaking out a little, though. I have to interview Jim Caviezel, in person, in about two hours, and I have no freaking idea what I'm going to ask him. I shouldn't get shaky yet -- there'll be plenty of time for that while waiting in the lobby of the Four Seasons for his assistant to come take me up to his room(!). This is so weird and random. I guess it's something to say I did, though, so it's worth doing just for that.

sunburned and snowblind (kenan), Wednesday, 16 March 2005 15:54 (twenty years ago)

What? You're interviewing JESUS?!

jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 16 March 2005 16:18 (twenty years ago)

Yeah. Fucking bizarre, isn't it? He made a movie about boat racing, and I work at a boat magazine, and so... there you go.

sunburned and snowblind (kenan), Wednesday, 16 March 2005 16:23 (twenty years ago)

phil, first week in april? what does that mean exactly? I can't leave st louis until April 6 at the earliest.

teeny (teeny), Wednesday, 16 March 2005 16:36 (twenty years ago)

I had no idea your employers had that kind of clout, K.

jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 16 March 2005 16:48 (twenty years ago)

Neither did they. I think the publicist got the wrong magazine, btwn you and me.

sunburned and snowblind (kenan), Wednesday, 16 March 2005 16:49 (twenty years ago)

He made a movie about boat racing

ROFFLE

Amateur(ist) (Amateur(ist)), Wednesday, 16 March 2005 17:49 (twenty years ago)

phil, first week in april? what does that mean exactly? I can't leave st louis until April 6 at the earliest.

well i haven't bought my plane ticket yet because i'm stupid and always wait until the last minute when all the plane tickets are twice as expensive, so i don't know the exact dates - but prolly like April 3rd until April 10th, give or take a day or two. I definitely want to be there on Friday April 8th for the thing at Smart Bar.

i'm moving out of this apt on April 1, but not moving into my new one until May, so i basically have all of april to play around with, and i can work remotely. so im pretty flexible, but i think im going to montreal to visit a friend also, and also maybe mexico city. or maybe LA. but annie (from norway) is playing in nyc april 15 and 16 and i donot want to miss that :(

phil-two (phil-two), Wednesday, 16 March 2005 18:57 (twenty years ago)

it would be nice to meet you teeny! we can go shopping.

phil-two (phil-two), Wednesday, 16 March 2005 19:10 (twenty years ago)

So I guess no one else is going to see Silkworm? Anyone up for something Saturday evening? You can all come to our apartment and drink (or not drink) beer and sit around...?

Sarah McLusky (coco), Thursday, 17 March 2005 14:27 (twenty years ago)

Yeah. I am home sick today.

n/a (Nick A.), Thursday, 17 March 2005 14:36 (twenty years ago)

Hi, Nick. How's it going?? I hope you don't mind that I just invited people over. You'll be better by Saturday, right?? I mean, it will be the weekend, so you'll automatically be healed.

Sarah McLusky (coco), Thursday, 17 March 2005 14:39 (twenty years ago)

I hope so. The thing is, Sarah, no one cares about Silkworm but me. I think we will be the only people at that show.

n/a (Nick A.), Thursday, 17 March 2005 14:41 (twenty years ago)

At least the BOttom Lounge is AWESOME. (OH, wait...)

Sarah McLusky (coco), Thursday, 17 March 2005 14:49 (twenty years ago)

Sorry. Sarcasm like that is SO last century.

Sarah McLusky (coco), Thursday, 17 March 2005 14:52 (twenty years ago)

I like the bottom lounge! It's easy to get too, and the coat check people are nice. And I had a seat where I could see the stage at the Hold Steady show.

We're going to see Xiu Xiu there next Thursday.

Jeff-PTTL (Jeff), Thursday, 17 March 2005 16:28 (twenty years ago)

I may be up for sitting around and hanging out this weekend. My weekend is WIDE OPEN. as far as I know.

Jeff-PTTL (Jeff), Thursday, 17 March 2005 16:28 (twenty years ago)

I don't mind the Bottom Lounge, either. I've only been there a couple of times, though, and both were pretty small shows. It still doesn't feel like a Chicago club, though, whatever that means.

jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 17 March 2005 16:31 (twenty years ago)

Hmm, what does feel like a Chicago club?

Jeff-PTTL (Jeff), Thursday, 17 March 2005 16:32 (twenty years ago)

I don't know! I can't explain it.

jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 17 March 2005 16:33 (twenty years ago)

The Empty Bottle

I'm just bitter because the show we played there - last minute on a Sunday night - was such a flop. Everyone was in the bar area drinking instead of watching the bands. Um, except for that one band that brought their friends (that left after the band played). Hopefully, I will grow to respect it tomorrow night.

Sarah McLusky (coco), Thursday, 17 March 2005 17:24 (twenty years ago)

phil taylor is playing at the bottom lounge soon-ish. it's not listed on their site though. jaymc, know anything?

kelsey (kelstarry), Thursday, 17 March 2005 17:29 (twenty years ago)

nope! i still haven't heard that p. taylor solo rec!

jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 17 March 2005 18:04 (twenty years ago)

http://indietorrents.com/

This is from further upthread, and I'm wondering who I have to service to get an invite. All I've got to trade are several dozen Gmail invites, and I know everyone has that already...

Dan M. (OutDatWay), Thursday, 17 March 2005 18:52 (twenty years ago)

are your sisters and mother still around? how'd that go?

Amateur(ist) (Amateur(ist)), Thursday, 17 March 2005 20:55 (twenty years ago)

I think i'm a good for the Sam Prekop show tonight, kenan are you still going?

I'm not sure how to invite people to indietorrents, but I'll see what I can do Dan.

Jeff-PTTL (Jeff), Thursday, 17 March 2005 21:48 (twenty years ago)

I think I'll be there, yeah.

sunburned and snowblind (kenan), Thursday, 17 March 2005 21:50 (twenty years ago)

In order for a user to invite another user a few conditions must be met. First the user must have a share ratio > 1.0 and have uploaded > than 1GB of data. Second, you must also have a user class of Uploader or better. If you meet all these conditions you will be allowed 1 invite for each 4 weeks you are a member. If you want to know how many invites you have look on your user details page.

I've got to raise my ratio, but I'll work on that.

Jeff-PTTL (Jeff), Thursday, 17 March 2005 21:50 (twenty years ago)

Hey man, whatever's cool with me. Thanks!

Dan M. (OutDatWay), Thursday, 17 March 2005 21:53 (twenty years ago)

Hey, in my absence tonight, can you guys request that Sam perform the Target commercial song?

jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 17 March 2005 22:09 (twenty years ago)

I'm serious, I would totally do that if I were there.

jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 17 March 2005 22:10 (twenty years ago)

Have a good drive tonight, John. How's that going to work? Where are you stopping?

sunburned and snowblind (kenan), Thursday, 17 March 2005 22:28 (twenty years ago)

We're not. The whole band is piling in a van, and we're driving in shifts.

jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 17 March 2005 22:53 (twenty years ago)

Ooh. Hardcore.

sunburned and snowblind (kenan), Thursday, 17 March 2005 22:54 (twenty years ago)

I know, right?

jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 17 March 2005 22:55 (twenty years ago)

http://www.princeton.edu/~puband/photos/4dms-van-f92.jpg

jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 17 March 2005 22:56 (twenty years ago)

Snow...what the fuck.

Jordan (Jordan), Friday, 18 March 2005 17:14 (twenty years ago)

I'll take snow over rain any day.

Dan M. (OutDatWay), Friday, 18 March 2005 17:44 (twenty years ago)

I'll take Manhattan.

sunburned and snowblind (kenan), Friday, 18 March 2005 17:45 (twenty years ago)

In a garbage bag with Latin written on it that says, "It's hard to give a shit these days."

sunburned and snowblind (kenan), Friday, 18 March 2005 17:45 (twenty years ago)

I need some lunch to offset all this coffee. I'm obviously tweaking.

sunburned and snowblind (kenan), Friday, 18 March 2005 17:46 (twenty years ago)

Did you make it to the show last night? It was packed, so I could barely move around to go looking for people.

Jeff-PTTL (Jeff), Friday, 18 March 2005 20:18 (twenty years ago)

Dudes. It's good that no one took me up on my offer to hang out at the apartment Saturday night because I had the FLU! (and Nick had a sinus infection). B-b-but, we plan to be all better by this weekend, so maybe you'd want to hang out then??

Sarah McLusky (coco), Tuesday, 22 March 2005 14:41 (twenty years ago)

http://photos4.flickr.com/7138442_0a6ea1049d.jpg

Jeff-PTTL (Jeff), Wednesday, 23 March 2005 00:06 (twenty years ago)

I would invite people to my apartment, but all the chairs are occupied.

Jeff-PTTL (Jeff), Wednesday, 23 March 2005 00:07 (twenty years ago)

I'm going to see SLINT on Friday!

jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 23 March 2005 00:33 (twenty years ago)

Ah, someone else who is willing to withstand the brunt of THREE cats in an apartment.

Jordan (Jordan), Wednesday, 23 March 2005 00:36 (twenty years ago)

I really want to get another kitten, but I keep reminding myself that would mean 3 cats in our apartment, eventually anyway. At first, it would be two cats and one tiny little kitten... But as it is, the Kitty Olympics wake me up sometimes.

Sarah McLusky (coco), Wednesday, 23 March 2005 14:30 (twenty years ago)

Three cats are great, there's always a cat somewhere in the room. Unless they are all sitting in my chair.

I went to Skokie yesterday! It's only the third time I've left Chicago since I moved here.

Jeff-PTTL (Jeff), Wednesday, 23 March 2005 16:24 (twenty years ago)


How nice that your cats sit together. Mine avoid each other. They seem to have an 'arrangement', i.e., 'it's your turn to sleep on the bed', 'I get the closet today'.

Shatterproof Glass (dymaxia), Wednesday, 23 March 2005 16:27 (twenty years ago)

Here's something that has stuck in my mind for the past 6 months (sorry, it doesn't have anything to do with cats):

I ride the Blue Line all the time, as I'm sure at least some of the people on this thread do. Between the northern Damen stop and where the line goes underground, on the south side of the tracks, there is a house with a busted-looking snowmobile under the back porch. I come from the middle of nowhere in MI, a town that is invaded yearly during the winter months by tourists riding snowmobiles in large packs. This makes seeing one under someone's porch in the middle of the city just completely bizzare to me.

I guess what I'm getting at is: has anyone else seen this snowmobile (it's a Ski-Doo) and has anyone ever seen a person riding one around in Chicago?

Dan M. (OutDatWay), Wednesday, 23 March 2005 16:33 (twenty years ago)


I thought they'd be illegal, fer sure. They might come in handy when there's a blizzard, though.

Shatterproof Glass (dymaxia), Wednesday, 23 March 2005 16:58 (twenty years ago)

oooh, canasta is opening for the kaiser chiefs tomorrow, says pollstar. thats kinda a weird bill.

phil-two (phil-two), Wednesday, 23 March 2005 20:45 (twenty years ago)

If by weird you mean A MATCH MADE IN HEAVEN!

jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 23 March 2005 21:03 (twenty years ago)

No, I'm kidding, it is a bit weird. Maybe. We are both all about the POP, they're just way more RAUCOUS and STYLISH about it.

jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 23 March 2005 21:04 (twenty years ago)

Also, our album is not #3 in the UK!

jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 23 March 2005 21:05 (twenty years ago)

i was just in skokie too. i love skokie.

congrats jaymc on your #4 album!

Amateur(ist) (Amateur(ist)), Wednesday, 23 March 2005 23:18 (twenty years ago)

Question, Chicago peeps.


Is the weather really as shitty as everyone says?
The reason I ask is I would like to live in Chicago someday. But... I hate cold weather. I loathe the winter, all around.

jill schoelen is the queen of my dreams! (Homosexual II), Wednesday, 23 March 2005 23:20 (twenty years ago)

I am getting a cat on Saturday! Speaking of cats...

jill schoelen is the queen of my dreams! (Homosexual II), Wednesday, 23 March 2005 23:21 (twenty years ago)

i dunno, it gets pretty cold. it can snow a lot. it also gets really hot and muggy in high summer.

Amateur(ist) (Amateur(ist)), Wednesday, 23 March 2005 23:22 (twenty years ago)

Being new to the weather and being from the south, the weather really hasn't been that bad for me. Of course I'm hot all the damn time, so I enjoy when it's in the 20s, and it really hasn't been below that too much. I rode my bike all winter, with the right gear, except on days when it snowed.

Jeff-PTTL (Jeff), Wednesday, 23 March 2005 23:34 (twenty years ago)

See the winters aren't as bad here as it's perceived (people seem to think Denver would be very cold and snowy all the time), and the summers are not too bad at all... hot somedays, but always dry and not muggy. I DON'T WANT TO GIVE UP MY WEATHER!

jill schoelen is the queen of my dreams! (Homosexual II), Wednesday, 23 March 2005 23:38 (twenty years ago)

i've lived in the chicago area and the denver area both, and denver definitely wins, weather-wise.

JuliaA (j_bdules), Thursday, 24 March 2005 03:20 (twenty years ago)

I DON'T WANT TO GIVE UP MY WEATHER!

then don't move. or move to california. what the fuck.

Amateur(ist) (Amateur(ist)), Thursday, 24 March 2005 03:22 (twenty years ago)

But... I hate cold weather. I loathe the winter, all around.

Amateurist sounds like an ass when he says "what the fuck," but I think he means well. If you don't like the cold -- lemme rephrase, nobody *likes* the cold -- if you find cold weather oppressive and grey and depressing and an aberration instead of the norm and something to be avoided, if you hate cold weather, Chicago will crush you. We have five months of warm weather here every year. "Warm" meaning "above 65."

sunburned and snowblind (kenan), Thursday, 24 March 2005 03:48 (twenty years ago)

here'sthe thingabout Chicago that will CRUSH, the sun doesn't exactly shine theway you are used to. YOu rarely have a shadow in Chicago, because the shine is rarely bright enough to make a distinct shade in the shape of your body, BUT it's a nice city and as long as you don't plan on spending too much time in the winter on Michigan Ave(like I have to because of the unfortunate location of my school) you will probably be fine, unless you are a sissy, in which case "then don't move. or move to california. what the fuck."

Holly (an appletross), Thursday, 24 March 2005 06:46 (twenty years ago)

i just don't get it. the weather is cold, you wear a coat. it's hot, you don't. it's really ok. maybe this attitude comes from having lived here most of my life, but i'm not really bothered or concerned by the weather except at its most extreme; even then, it's interesting.

Amateur(ist) (Amateur(ist)), Thursday, 24 March 2005 06:55 (twenty years ago)

the cold doesn't bother me at all, but i grew up in palm beaach and i need sunshine occasionally. this week has been just beautiful (too bad i have too much flu to go outside).

Holly (an appletross), Thursday, 24 March 2005 06:58 (twenty years ago)

oh, that wasn't in response to your post specifically holly.

i agree with you, it's really not a big deal. the hottest days of the summer are probably as bad as it gets to my mind. the days when the air conditioning gives out.

i was expressing my honest bewilderment (though, i should emphasize, not scorn) at people who say that can't handle the weather in chicago (or a similarly intemperate climate).

Amateur(ist) (Amateur(ist)), Thursday, 24 March 2005 07:05 (twenty years ago)

yeah i sorta feel the same way. i don't look forward to the winter or anything, but it's like winter's winter, you know? it's not that bad, ultimately.

jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 24 March 2005 07:27 (twenty years ago)

Some people are bummed out by it. I live with one.

sunburned and snowblind (kenan), Thursday, 24 March 2005 07:29 (twenty years ago)

they shouldn't live in chicago then, you know. i also feellike i get sick A LOT here, but it's possible there are other factors involved besides weather.

Holly (an appletross), Thursday, 24 March 2005 07:32 (twenty years ago)

I do get annoyed sometimes, right around this time of the year, when I step outside and this brutal wind hits me in the face, and I say to myself, "FUCK! AGAIN? WHEN WILL THIS END?"

But really, you can't do that, because it doesn't ever "end," it just stops for a while sometimes, and in the summer it stops for a couple of months. But again I say, if you hate the cold, if you think that living in the thirties and forties for three months of the year and the twenties for two more months of the year and the teens in most of January and February, DON'T MOVE TO CHICAGO. If cold makes you miserable, as I know it can, just don't live here. That simple.

I don't understand what Amateurist doesn't understand. That some people don't like the cold? Some people don't. It is a big deal to those people.

sunburned and snowblind (kenan), Thursday, 24 March 2005 07:33 (twenty years ago)

this time of year is the worst because i am always so excited for spring but its just not here yet, it's coming i can feel it, but if it snows this week no one's going to get out the record books.
and yeah it is really windy right now. i really like summer in chicago, i will say.

Holly (an appletross), Thursday, 24 March 2005 07:36 (twenty years ago)

I don't like the cold, but I FUCKING HATE THE HEAT. HATE. FUCKING FUCKING FUCKING HATE. Sweating is the thing I would probably least like to be doing on this Earth.

Chicago heat is nothing. Heat in Texas is as bad (to me, much worse) than cold in Chicago. It's never ending, and it makes you not want to leave your house, ever. Only difference is, not leaving your house is much more expensive in Texas. You can stay inside and run the air all summer, but that'll mean a $200 electric bill. Heat is cheaper. And I don't mind the cold near as much.

When it's cold at night, you pile the blankets on and sleep. When it's hot outside, you sweat and sweat and don't sleep. But in Chicago, that's mayyybe a couple weeks out of the year.

sunburned and snowblind (kenan), Thursday, 24 March 2005 07:39 (twenty years ago)

IMAGINE THREE SOLID MONTHS WHERE IT'S OVER 100 DEGREES EVERY DAY. IMAGINE, YANKEES, AND TREMBLE.

sunburned and snowblind (kenan), Thursday, 24 March 2005 07:40 (twenty years ago)

(That was an exagguration -- I think the record in Austin for most consecutive days over 100 is 42. STILL.)

sunburned and snowblind (kenan), Thursday, 24 March 2005 07:41 (twenty years ago)

Itismuch harder to escapethe heat. In Palm Beach everything is air conditioned so the heat never bothered me, but I remember every summer a few old black ladies would die from heat exhaustion and then the firemen would give out window air conditioners in poor neighborhoods.
Why is heat required by law but not a/c?

Holly (an appletross), Thursday, 24 March 2005 07:48 (twenty years ago)

Fuck a few old black ladies.

sunburned and snowblind (kenan), Thursday, 24 March 2005 07:51 (twenty years ago)

(kidding -- but that's kinda it. If heat weren't required, *everyone* would die.)

sunburned and snowblind (kenan), Thursday, 24 March 2005 07:51 (twenty years ago)

Down South, air conditioning is required the way heat is required here. But heating the house is negotiable.

sunburned and snowblind (kenan), Thursday, 24 March 2005 07:52 (twenty years ago)

we would still have blankets though...
what do i know, i'm totally fucked up on theraflu right now.

and as far as a/c being required, it's not the same because here if you don't pay your gas bill in the winter they can't turn it off, but the can turn off your electric there no matter how hot.

Holly (an appletross), Thursday, 24 March 2005 07:54 (twenty years ago)

I think it's up to the cities to make air conditioning laws. I know in Houston, if you're a landlord, you cannont legally offer a non-air-conditioned apartment.

sunburned and snowblind (kenan), Thursday, 24 March 2005 07:55 (twenty years ago)

And actually, I believe there are laws about when you can and connot turn off a person's electricity.

sunburned and snowblind (kenan), Thursday, 24 March 2005 07:55 (twenty years ago)

maybe it's different in texas than fl.
obviously the priorities in fl are the "culture of life" not the "culture of a/c"

Holly (an appletross), Thursday, 24 March 2005 07:57 (twenty years ago)

My problem with Chicago winter's is not the cold, it's how HOT some of the businesses are in the winter. It's like that at Kopi Cafe, it can be 4 degrees outside, but when I go in there, I immediatly break into a sweat. It's oppressive. Then I sweat the whole time I'm in there, and then freeze my ass off on the bike ride back.

Jeff-PTTL (Jeff), Thursday, 24 March 2005 14:25 (twenty years ago)

and Borders is unreasonably hot too.

Jeff-PTTL (Jeff), Thursday, 24 March 2005 14:26 (twenty years ago)

This was my first winter in Chicago, and it was the second easiest of my 27 years. The easiest was in Australia when I was 13. So it's really not that bad. It does get dark really early, though.

Dan M. (OutDatWay), Thursday, 24 March 2005 15:05 (twenty years ago)

Today is beautiful. Today would be a good day for an all day drunk.

Jeff-PTTL (Jeff), Thursday, 24 March 2005 17:05 (twenty years ago)

Oh man, I'm feeling like I need it too. Must. Wait. Until. Tomorrow.

Dan M. (OutDatWay), Thursday, 24 March 2005 17:26 (twenty years ago)

Who will be going to the Canasta show tonight? Huh huh huh?

Sarah McLusky (coco), Thursday, 24 March 2005 19:04 (twenty years ago)

Where and when? My friends are almost all going to see Xiu Xiu and I might be putting out fires all night. Metaphorically speaking, unfortunately.

Dan M. (OutDatWay), Thursday, 24 March 2005 19:18 (twenty years ago)

Double Door, don't know what time exactly. Um, nighttime.

Sarah McLusky (coco), Thursday, 24 March 2005 19:51 (twenty years ago)

The only reason I ask is that I always talk about how I want to move to Chicago, and EVERYONE AND THEIR MOM gets up in my grill about how I WILL NOT BE ABLE TO STAND THE WINTER like I am some FRAIL little thing that will just be blasted away with icicles. I really don't mind the winter THAT much, but I do have a thing about getting incredibly depressed in the autumn and winter, and it really has nothing to do with the cold/heat/or anything, I just get depressed.

jill schoelen is the queen of my dreams! (Homosexual II), Thursday, 24 March 2005 20:00 (twenty years ago)

i guess i just find other things to worry about than the weather, which i can't change or really do anything about aside from dress appropriately. if it really bothered me--which, again, i'm not quite sure why it would--i'd just up and move somewhere, i guess.

if you all were really old and had arthritis and stuff, i guess i'd understand more.

Amateur(ist) (Amateur(ist)), Thursday, 24 March 2005 20:13 (twenty years ago)

Mandee, That's what everyone told me before I came here. They all said I'd be back in Virginia within the year because I wouldn't be able to handle it (meaning the cold) - and I think a lot of those folks convinced themselves I definitely would be coming back.

I have to say that I do not enjoy it being cold THIS LONG, but today it's gorgeous outside so I don't care.

One of my favorite things about the wintertime here is that a lot of people still go out to bars and to see shows and stuff. It's not dead.

Sarah McLusky (coco), Thursday, 24 March 2005 20:28 (twenty years ago)

OH, and yeah, I totally agree about the heat being pumped up way too high in most places. It's like when it's hot in the summer and offices turn the temp so low your cardigan isn't keeping you warm enough. Yeah, I hate that shit too.

Sarah McLusky (coco), Thursday, 24 March 2005 20:32 (twenty years ago)

I usually have to dress the opposite of what the weather is like outside... in the summer its FREEZING indoors, so much that I could definitely wear a woolly sweater and be okay. I do NOT like A/C.

jill schoelen is the queen of my dreams! (Homosexual II), Thursday, 24 March 2005 20:37 (twenty years ago)

I agree. I love to just open the windows, but most offices are made with those windows that simply can't be opened. It's the dumbest.

Sarah McLusky (coco), Thursday, 24 March 2005 20:52 (twenty years ago)

Hi, I ditched work today. The show tonight is at 9 PM. We play first.

jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 24 March 2005 21:14 (twenty years ago)

sorry i can't make it, j. had i gone to bed at a regular, less early time last night, i might have written some of my script.

kelsey (kelstarry), Thursday, 24 March 2005 21:16 (twenty years ago)

that's cool ... in other news, what the fuck is wrong with my computer? why can't i play dvds? i went to the video store because the "morvern callar" dvd i ordered from netflix wouldn't play in my computer, and i have to write an article about it by sunday, and i thought that my skipping work i'd have time to actually watch it before i write the article, but this dvd won't play, either! grrrrrrr.

jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 24 March 2005 21:19 (twenty years ago)

buy one dvd player!

Jordan (Jordan), Thursday, 24 March 2005 21:22 (twenty years ago)

i know, i guess i have to.

jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 24 March 2005 21:28 (twenty years ago)

it's okay, they're like twenty bucks these days!

Jordan (Jordan), Thursday, 24 March 2005 21:34 (twenty years ago)

Me and Jenny will be at Xiu Xiu tonight, if anyone wants to say hi.

Jeff-PTTL (Jeff), Thursday, 24 March 2005 21:57 (twenty years ago)

Is that the Watchers show?

Sarah McLusky (coco), Thursday, 24 March 2005 22:32 (twenty years ago)

oh, I just checked the reader... different show. Too many good shows tonight...

Sarah McLusky (coco), Thursday, 24 March 2005 22:39 (twenty years ago)

Xiu Xiu was good, but super crowded. I like the bottom lounge better when 50 people are there.

Jeff-PTTL (Jeff), Friday, 25 March 2005 13:57 (twenty years ago)

Nick and I wussed out and finished watching season 3 of 24 on dvd instead. Oh, and the premier of the US version of the Office, which was pretty funny. Sorry, John. How was the Canasta show? By the way, what are the t-shirts like? I guess I'll check the site to see if there are pix up.

Sarah McLusky (coco), Friday, 25 March 2005 14:07 (twenty years ago)

REVIVE. It's so pretty out today!!! :-D

Sarah McLusky (coco), Monday, 28 March 2005 15:27 (twenty years ago)

yeah. time for a smoke break already!

sunburned and snowblind (kenan), Monday, 28 March 2005 15:29 (twenty years ago)

Why are musicians such assholes sometimes? I don't get it.

Dan M. (OutDatWay), Monday, 28 March 2005 16:01 (twenty years ago)

Why is anybody an asshole sometimes? What's your beef with musicians in particular this morning?

sunburned and snowblind (kenan), Monday, 28 March 2005 16:22 (twenty years ago)

Is it because Nick and Sarah stayed home to watch dvds?

Jordan (Jordan), Monday, 28 March 2005 16:27 (twenty years ago)

Uh-huh. That's got to be it. :-D

I might buy these shoes online in a few minutes:
http://www.zappos.com/images/w/wNewBal105.8/1729-117990-p.jpg

Sarah McLusky (coco), Monday, 28 March 2005 16:29 (twenty years ago)

Those look really comfortable.

Jordan (Jordan), Monday, 28 March 2005 16:32 (twenty years ago)

New Balance are great for the money, IMO. Do it.

sunburned and snowblind (kenan), Monday, 28 March 2005 16:32 (twenty years ago)

This weekend I went to the New Balance store in Lincoln Park, but they:
1- didn't carry my size at all there and
2- said they couldn't order any in my size because they do plenty of business without ordering more shoes!!?! WTF?!

But anyway, I found these online in my size, so screw 'em.

Sarah McLusky (coco), Monday, 28 March 2005 16:37 (twenty years ago)

What's your beef with musicians in particular this morning?

Eh, I tried out for this guy's band, thought it went really well, then today he's slagging me off on Craig's List. Also, he told me to call him about things after the audition and never returned a single one of my calls. All of this is after he went on for literally hours about how "professional" a musician he is. I can take rejection, but this is kinda stupid.

Xpost - I like the shoes too, I was thinking about a pair of those myself.

Dan M. (OutDatWay), Monday, 28 March 2005 16:38 (twenty years ago)

Oh, Sarah, do you not have perfect little Trixie feet? My God, how do you even fit those boats into your Volkswagon Beetle?!

sunburned and snowblind (kenan), Monday, 28 March 2005 16:39 (twenty years ago)

Keenan, I thought of you while listening to my friends' new album the other day. The band is called Cougar and it's SOOO Chicago post-rocky (McEntire even mixed it). The guitars sound gorgeous, it's my new Sunday afternoon album.

Jordan (Jordan), Monday, 28 March 2005 16:40 (twenty years ago)

Sarah that's hilarious!

"We don't need your kind (of feet) in our store."

Jordan (Jordan), Monday, 28 March 2005 16:45 (twenty years ago)

xpost ooh. Sunday afternoon is my favorite day. Hook me up.

sunburned and snowblind (kenan), Monday, 28 March 2005 16:45 (twenty years ago)

Is that a working gmail address? And do you have teh iTunes?

Jordan (Jordan), Monday, 28 March 2005 16:53 (twenty years ago)

yes, and yes.

sunburned and snowblind (kenan), Monday, 28 March 2005 16:58 (twenty years ago)

My feet are Peggy Hill-like.

Sarah McLusky (coco), Monday, 28 March 2005 17:04 (twenty years ago)

No, no... think "Uma Thurman-like" (size 11).

sunburned and snowblind (kenan), Monday, 28 March 2005 17:08 (twenty years ago)

Aight, the album's not out yet but I'll e-mail you a couple of tunes tonight.

Jordan (Jordan), Monday, 28 March 2005 18:30 (twenty years ago)

I love it. Thanks.

sunburned and snowblind (kenan), Monday, 28 March 2005 18:31 (twenty years ago)

I wear a size 10, which means MORE CLEARANCE SHOES FOR ME. And I just tell people who tease me about them that I'm genetically modifying myself for the future for when we all live in space. Size 5's, you are so 19th century.

jocelyn (Jocelyn), Monday, 28 March 2005 18:34 (twenty years ago)

Why is anybody an asshole sometimes?

I am currently pondering this.

jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 28 March 2005 18:52 (twenty years ago)

And I have to say, I don't really understand "people have the right to be assholes; you should just get over it."

jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 28 March 2005 18:54 (twenty years ago)

oh, no, me either... I was just wondering why he was mentioning musicians, since there are so many of them around here. But as it turns out, it was unrelated.

sunburned and snowblind (kenan), Monday, 28 March 2005 18:59 (twenty years ago)

Oh yeah, I know.

jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 28 March 2005 19:10 (twenty years ago)

Oh, I see. This is a thought carried over from... ahem... another board.

sunburned and snowblind (kenan), Monday, 28 March 2005 19:13 (twenty years ago)

er, yes

jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 28 March 2005 19:29 (twenty years ago)

Yeah, I kind of regret pigeonholing musicians for assholery. I should have said "rockstar wannabes" instead.

Dan M. (OutDatWay), Monday, 28 March 2005 19:36 (twenty years ago)

(jaymc - "People have the right to be assholes" isn't quite what Andrew said, more like, "If it bothers you, you have a problem." Which is unfair, but closer to the truth. If you *let* it bother you, you'll only be singled out for further ridicule. "Don't let them get to you, dear," said the mother to the child about to go get abused again at school. It's some mean-spirited playground shit, but hey, nobody ever said this is anything other than a playground.)

sunburned and snowblind (kenan), Monday, 28 March 2005 19:45 (twenty years ago)

("People have the right to be assholes" wasn't quite a parsing of what Andrew said, but a general vibe I've gotten, esp. when I'm called a "humorless douchebag.")

jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 28 March 2005 20:24 (twenty years ago)

It's even more beautiful out today. And remember those shoes? They arrive tomorrow. :-D

So, last night I went to an Urgent Care in the ER, which I will never do again, with my bad cold and then sent me home with a prescription for codeine to help me sleep. WTF?! I didn't fill it though. I'm a wuss.

Sarah McLusky (coco), Tuesday, 29 March 2005 13:46 (twenty years ago)

You didn't fill it?

*double take*

Coedine is like GOLD! You don't just come across a prescription for coedine every day. And it's the most fun way to be sick EVER. You get you coedine, then your herbal tea, and maybe a cat... it's as good as valium. Fuzzy, fuzzy.

sunburned and snowblind (kenan), Tuesday, 29 March 2005 14:48 (twenty years ago)

Yeah, just fill the prescription and sell it to high school students.

Jordan (Jordan), Tuesday, 29 March 2005 14:55 (twenty years ago)

Yeah, or Kenan.

Sarah McLusky (coco), Tuesday, 29 March 2005 14:57 (twenty years ago)

That works too.

Jordan (Jordan), Tuesday, 29 March 2005 14:59 (twenty years ago)

heh heh

*rubs hands together*

sunburned and snowblind (kenan), Tuesday, 29 March 2005 16:04 (twenty years ago)

So are Cougar going to be post-rock stars (or is it post rock-stars?), Kenan?

Jordan (Jordan), Tuesday, 29 March 2005 16:19 (twenty years ago)

Could be. I really like what I heard.

Speaking of which, I just added a Sam Prekop theme to my blog.

http://giganticmag.com/

I am a geek.

sunburned and snowblind (kenan), Tuesday, 29 March 2005 16:23 (twenty years ago)

Sweet. I was really pleased to see Archer Prewitt's comic strip in the Reader the last time I was in town, that's pretty cool.

Jordan (Jordan), Tuesday, 29 March 2005 16:27 (twenty years ago)

It is, but I still can't believe that the gentle, studious looking dude who writes such wistful pop songs draws something so R. Crumb-like.

jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 29 March 2005 16:34 (twenty years ago)

At the Sam Prekop show, I informed my pal Jesse that it was Archer Prewitt on guitar, which then cause him to enter a homocidal rage to finally be in the presense of his mortal enemy, creater of Sof'Boy.

I however, love the comic.

Jeff-PTTL (Jeff), Tuesday, 29 March 2005 16:53 (twenty years ago)

It's not what he does best, for sure. He should keep his night job.

sunburned and snowblind (kenan), Tuesday, 29 March 2005 16:55 (twenty years ago)

Why does Jesse hate Sof'Boy?

jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 29 March 2005 16:56 (twenty years ago)

I don't know! He can never seem to articulate why, of couse, I can't seem to explain why I enjoy it so much either. It's a very polarizing comic.

Jeff-PTTL (Jeff), Tuesday, 29 March 2005 17:01 (twenty years ago)

Or, it's a very easily ignored comic.

sunburned and snowblind (kenan), Tuesday, 29 March 2005 17:13 (twenty years ago)

I have recently and embarrassingly become aware that I misspelled "codeine" three times in the same post.

sunburned and snowblind (kenan), Tuesday, 29 March 2005 17:39 (twenty years ago)

You just like your codeine co-ed stylee.

Sarah McLusky (coco), Tuesday, 29 March 2005 18:17 (twenty years ago)

Is anyone going to see Bloc Party on Thursday?

Dan M. (OutDatWay), Tuesday, 29 March 2005 19:48 (twenty years ago)

Not I, but LCD Soundsystem and M.I.A. will be playing the metro on May 19th, i just found out.

Jeff-PTTL (Jeff), Tuesday, 29 March 2005 19:51 (twenty years ago)

Yeah, so, I'm in Chicago next Thursday (the 7th) from like 8am to 3pm. Layover on my cross-country train trip (heading back west). Let me know if you want meet up (e-mail me). Rah.

Casuistry (Chris P), Tuesday, 29 March 2005 19:56 (twenty years ago)

Obv I understand that people have jobs etc.

Casuistry (Chris P), Tuesday, 29 March 2005 19:56 (twenty years ago)

Yeah, sorry, can't do it, Chris!

Dan -- I thought about going to see Bloc Party, but I should probably stay in.

Jeff -- You know I'm totally there for M.I.A./LCD.

jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 29 March 2005 20:03 (twenty years ago)

AWESOME.

Sarah McLusky (coco), Tuesday, 29 March 2005 20:28 (twenty years ago)

I thought about going to the bloc party show, but I just can't get into their album.

Jeff-PTTL (Jeff), Tuesday, 29 March 2005 20:35 (twenty years ago)

Yeah, well, I've only heard like two songs...

jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 29 March 2005 20:39 (twenty years ago)

For some reason I really like about half of it. Which is strange because I don't usually go for that kind of stuff. I think I'm enthralled by their drumming. Also, a friend of mine is in town from Austin and saw them there at SXSW a couple weeks ago. He said they killed it, so we're gonna go.

Dan M. (OutDatWay), Tuesday, 29 March 2005 20:46 (twenty years ago)

Hi gang, self-publicity time. Fake Fictions will be on Pure Hype radio show on WHPK 88.5 FM this Friday, April 1st, from 9-10:30. That's U. of Chicago's station, so probably none of you can receive it, but I thought I'd let you know.

Also Sarah is ditching me and going out of town on my birthday weekend (around May15th) so we should have a dude's night out.

n/a (Nick A.), Tuesday, 29 March 2005 22:42 (twenty years ago)

Dudical.

jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 29 March 2005 22:44 (twenty years ago)

is that 9 AM or 9 PM N!ck?

Amateur(ist) (Amateur(ist)), Tuesday, 29 March 2005 23:38 (twenty years ago)

Yeah, so, I'm in Chicago next Thursday (the 7th) from like 8am to 3pm.

oh. hey. im going to be in chicago from monday april 4th until wednesday april 13th! maybe i'll take the metra down to union station and we can have lunch. unless im stuck babysitting my niece. or if i oversleep. both are possibilities.

also, is anyone interested in the matthew dear & magda party on Friday the 8th at Smart Bar? same nite as teh bravery who are playing upstars at metro.

also, drinks at bar sometime?

phil-two (phil-two), Wednesday, 30 March 2005 09:57 (twenty years ago)

9 PM DUDERS

n/a (Nick A.), Wednesday, 30 March 2005 12:40 (twenty years ago)

I guess no one else ever bought a Shins ticket??

Anywho, I've got my new shoes on. :-)

Sarah McLusky (coco), Wednesday, 30 March 2005 17:15 (twenty years ago)

Yeah, no Shins for me. I think they're sold out now anyway.

I'm probably going to Eluvium tomorrow night.

Jeff-PTTL (Jeff), Wednesday, 30 March 2005 17:27 (twenty years ago)

I hate sof' boy too. xpost.

kelsey (kelstarry), Wednesday, 30 March 2005 17:42 (twenty years ago)

i don't understand it; it falls into that category of comics that just seem too droll to me.

Amateur(ist) (Amateur(ist)), Wednesday, 30 March 2005 17:48 (twenty years ago)

Does anyone here know anything about the burlesque shows that Subterranian puts on? My friend is in one (tonight) and I'm thinking of going, just wondering what the deal was.

Dan M. (OutDatWay), Wednesday, 30 March 2005 18:07 (twenty years ago)

By "deal" I mean beyond "$5 to see quasi-naked girls."

Dan M. (OutDatWay), Wednesday, 30 March 2005 18:07 (twenty years ago)

I assume it's just like any other burlesque show, lots of prancing around and pasties abound.

Jeff-PTTL (Jeff), Wednesday, 30 March 2005 18:26 (twenty years ago)

okay so what's going on in chicago april 8/9/10? I will be unemployed and so maybe I should visit, esp if phil's there. Ah fuck I just remembered there's a show in the opposite direction I want to go to that weekend. Shit. We'll see then.

teeny (teeny), Wednesday, 30 March 2005 18:40 (twenty years ago)

FYI, tickets for M.I.A./LCD Soundsystem go on sale this saturday at noon. 21 buckaroos.

Jeff-PTTL (Jeff), Wednesday, 30 March 2005 18:49 (twenty years ago)

Hi everyone. I'm taking a break from not posting on ILX.

n/a (Nick A.), Wednesday, 30 March 2005 18:52 (twenty years ago)

Hi, Nick.

That's a lot of money considering I didn't realize they were that popular - here anyway. But whatevs. I still want to go.

Sarah McLusky (coco), Wednesday, 30 March 2005 18:58 (twenty years ago)

Hi, Nick.

That's a lot of money considering I didn't realize they were that popular - here anyway. But whatevs. I still want to go.

By the way, you mean they go on sale at ticketmaster.com, jeff? Because the shins tickets weren't supposed to go on sale there until a saturday, same time, but I went on the ticketmaster site and it let me buy them 3 days before the sale was supposed to begin. So you should try it anyway.

Sarah McLusky (coco), Wednesday, 30 March 2005 18:59 (twenty years ago)

Yeah, on TM. The show isn't listed on TM yet though, just on the metro website.

Jeff-PTTL (Jeff), Wednesday, 30 March 2005 19:04 (twenty years ago)

What is G@per's Bl0ck? I was googling my own band, as I often do, and there's a thread on there about fave local bands, and some dude names us, but then he says we played at a block party at the 2000-2100 block of Potomac, and we've never played there. But he says we sound like the Pixies and Spoon, which I guess we kinda do, so I think he's just confused about the location.

n/a (Nick A.), Wednesday, 30 March 2005 19:09 (twenty years ago)

Oh yeah, I forgot to e-mail you about that, Nick! I saw that yesterday. I was googling for Canasta, and some prankster named Jeff (cough cough) mentioned us.

Gapers Block is a pretty cool Chicago-centric website, kinda part events listings, part blog. I think Kenan and Jessa are friends with some of the people in charge.

jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 30 March 2005 19:14 (twenty years ago)

It's a Chicago-centric site, sort of like Chicag0ist, except they don't talk about themselves in the third person. Nice people they are. That was me that mentioned the Fake Fictions and Canasta, on up in that thread. I don't know who that other guy is though.

Jeff-PTTL (Jeff), Wednesday, 30 March 2005 19:15 (twenty years ago)

$21 does seem like a lot of money for that show to me, too! I'd have guessed $15, tops.

jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 30 March 2005 19:15 (twenty years ago)

Seems about right for me, I feared it would be about $30. I guess it will after fees and all.

Jeff-PTTL (Jeff), Wednesday, 30 March 2005 19:17 (twenty years ago)

Don't get me wrong, I'll still gladly pay it. But M.I.A./LCD Soundsystem aren't that popular, are they? I mean, outside of hipsters/ILXors. I think I've only paid more than $20 for a show maybe 10 times in my life, and it was all bands like Sonic Youth, PJ Harvey, Belle & Sebastian, Radiohead, etc.

jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 30 March 2005 19:20 (twenty years ago)

It's going to be asshole-deep in hipsters at that show. I want to go though.

n/a (Nick A.), Wednesday, 30 March 2005 19:23 (twenty years ago)

I just assume that if I know about somebody, the entire free world does as well.

Jeff-PTTL (Jeff), Wednesday, 30 March 2005 19:25 (twenty years ago)

Nick, Please never use that analogy again. Thanks.

Sarah McLusky (coco), Wednesday, 30 March 2005 19:27 (twenty years ago)

The "complain about NYC" thread made me think about something I hate about Chicago: those people at the Clark & Lake El stop (and probably other El stops that go from underground to aboveground) who lurk just inside the doors to the platform, or even worse, between the two sets of doors leading to the platform, because it's too cold to go out and wait for the train on the platform, but if you need to walk through the doors THEY DON'T MOVE OR GET OUT OF THE WAY, THEY JUST STAND THERE LIKE ASSHOLES UNTIL YOU PUSH THEM OUT OF THE WAY (note: I don't actually do this) OR YOU GO THROUGH ANOTHER DOOR! BITCHES, THIS IS CHICAGO, IF YOU CAN'T TAKE THE COLD, MOVE!

n/a (Nick A.), Wednesday, 30 March 2005 19:42 (twenty years ago)

what does that even mean?
xpost

kelsey (kelstarry), Wednesday, 30 March 2005 19:43 (twenty years ago)

It means if all the hipsters laid all over the floor, starting a new layer once the floor was completely covered, they would come up to the height of one's asshole.

n/a (Nick A.), Wednesday, 30 March 2005 19:45 (twenty years ago)

Which since they're a bunch of skinny fuckers means a whole lot of hipsters.

I'm a fan of the phrase "metric fuckton." But asshole-deep is a good one too.

Dan M. (OutDatWay), Wednesday, 30 March 2005 20:05 (twenty years ago)

Dan I've been meaning to keep an eye out for that snowmobile since I ride that leg of the Blue Line twice a day, but I keep forgetting to look for it. If you're going towards the Loop, is it on the left or right side of the train?

n/a (Nick A.), Wednesday, 30 March 2005 20:09 (twenty years ago)

Right side. Offhand I'd say it's about 2/3 of the way from the Damen stop to where you go underground, but 90% of the time I'm dreading going to work or dreaming of getting home, so my powers of distance reasoning might be off.

Dan M. (OutDatWay), Wednesday, 30 March 2005 20:34 (twenty years ago)

Hi guys! It's a beautiful day! Here's proof:

http://giganticmag.com/images/ilx/double_dutch.jpg

See? You can't do that when it's bad outside.

sunburned and snowblind (kenan), Wednesday, 30 March 2005 20:51 (twenty years ago)

I can't do that when it's nice outside either.

Sarah McLusky (coco), Wednesday, 30 March 2005 21:03 (twenty years ago)

The burlesque show was good, my friend killed it. But the number of creepy old dudes suprised the shit out of me. Ah, to be masturbation fodder.

Dan M. (OutDatWay), Thursday, 31 March 2005 13:41 (twenty years ago)

Yeah, that's the thing. No matter how indie or punk rock you try to make burlesque or porn in general, there's still going to be creepy dudes lusting over it. So it kind of makes it less ironic or what-have-you.

Kenan, my current desktop photo is the one from your photoblog made up of a bunch of different window squares. Is that the rec center near your apartment that's shaped like a big arch?

Sarah McLusky (coco), Thursday, 31 March 2005 13:46 (twenty years ago)

Yep. It's a swimming pool.

sunburned and snowblind (kenan), Thursday, 31 March 2005 14:07 (twenty years ago)

What's up with that Bookmark Board button up top? I'm intrigued and yet scared.

Sarah McLusky (coco), Thursday, 31 March 2005 14:23 (twenty years ago)

It will add a link to this board to the top of every page when you're logged in. It's pretty neat, actually.

sunburned and snowblind (kenan), Thursday, 31 March 2005 14:30 (twenty years ago)

I had a very Chicago dream last night. I was riding on a kind of grimy, 1930's-ish version of the El. The driver came out of the front of the train while the train was still moving and went out on this platform that was attached to the outside of the train. John Lee Hooker was out there and he played this really awesome song that my brain made up. Then I realized "Hey, how is the train going to stop at the next stop if the driver is outside?" Sure enough, the train missed the next stop, which was the Belmont stop. It was all very Blues Brothers, which is odd because I haven't seen that movie in several years.

n/a (Nick A.), Thursday, 31 March 2005 14:33 (twenty years ago)

Oh, man... missing the Belmont stop sucks. I've done it more than once. Except when I did it, it was because of napping or reading. It was never directly blues-related.

sunburned and snowblind (kenan), Thursday, 31 March 2005 14:40 (twenty years ago)

I never really even go to the Belmont stop! But it was definitely the Belmont stop. And the driver and John Lee Hooker were drinking too.

n/a (Nick A.), Thursday, 31 March 2005 14:42 (twenty years ago)

Um, I clicked on that button, but I don't see where the link is = I am a dumbnuts.

Sarah McLusky (coco), Thursday, 31 March 2005 14:50 (twenty years ago)

Somethin' strong, I bet.

It's good to know that even though I missed work yesterday, nothing has changed. The same argument is going on today as was all day Tuesday -- the same maddeningly stupid argument. My boss simply will not accept that he was indeed served notice by the city that they were going to build a pipeline under a piece of his property. Tuesday we knew that the city served him notice in an indirect way, and his argument was that that isn't good enough. Legally, the lawyer patiently explained, there is no difference. This morning my boss found the fax in which he was served notice, directly and unquestionably. "But I just found it this morning!" he pleaded to his lawyer. His lawyer became angry at him, as we all do sooner or later. "I CANNOT ARGUE THAT YOU WERE NEVER SERVED NOTICE WHEN THAT PIECE OF PAPER IS IN YOUR HAND."

Someday someone will strangle him to death, and the list of suspects will be too long for the police to bother with.

sunburned and snowblind (kenan), Thursday, 31 March 2005 14:53 (twenty years ago)

Sarah, it should be at the top of the screen, underneath the thread title. If you notice, the ILM | ILE links on the right have been removed.

jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 31 March 2005 14:58 (twenty years ago)

No. Don't see it.

Sarah McLusky (coco), Thursday, 31 March 2005 15:16 (twenty years ago)

We're playing a show tonight but I'm not that excited about it. We're trying to think of it as practice for the radio thing tomorrow.

n/a (Nick A.), Thursday, 31 March 2005 15:18 (twenty years ago)

Will you be able to tape the radio thing?

Jordan (Jordan), Thursday, 31 March 2005 15:24 (twenty years ago)

It seems like we should be able to, don't they usually have that capability in radio stations? We could at my old college station.

n/a (Nick A.), Thursday, 31 March 2005 15:28 (twenty years ago)

Yeah, if they don't have a way to record the show, I'll be very surprised.

What station? What time?

sunburned and snowblind (kenan), Thursday, 31 March 2005 15:33 (twenty years ago)

http://whpk.uchicago.edu/rock/hype/

Sarah McLusky (coco), Thursday, 31 March 2005 15:44 (twenty years ago)

He told us they usually aren't ready with sound checking and everything until 9pm.

Sarah McLusky (coco), Thursday, 31 March 2005 15:45 (twenty years ago)

The radio man there seems quite jolly.

sunburned and snowblind (kenan), Thursday, 31 March 2005 16:11 (twenty years ago)

Hey, I just checked out a couple of Fake Fictions mp3s for the first time. You guys playing anytime soon besides tonight?

Dan M. (OutDatWay), Thursday, 31 March 2005 19:26 (twenty years ago)

Yes, April 9th at the Beat Kitchen. You can always check our shows page. I'm assuming that's where you got the mp3s anyway.

Sarah McLusky (coco), Thursday, 31 March 2005 19:27 (twenty years ago)

The Beat Kitchen show should be fun, despite it being 5 bands. It's on a Saturday, Nueva Cats are playing (who we know are cool), and the other bands look like they are cool too.

n/a (Nick A.), Thursday, 31 March 2005 19:31 (twenty years ago)

Heh. Yeah I guess I could have checked the shows page. I'm fired from the internet.

Dan M. (OutDatWay), Thursday, 31 March 2005 19:47 (twenty years ago)

Hey guys, I apologize in advance but I'm going to bitch for a second about band stuff. I just have to get it off my chest, you know, and I thought you guys would understand.

So my partner-in-grime for Cleft & Cloven is in this frat-pop band, the Pr0f1t$. None of them have jobs, they want to be famous, they all live at his sister's house (where we have our studio, etc.). The problem is that even though I know Scott wants to work on our shit, it takes up SO much of his time. We were going to work on Monday - he's gotta rehearse. We were going to work on Tuesday night, same thing, and apparently they're busy until next week.

I could record by myself on the weekends, but they take all the mics for their live rig. This is the problem with a side project of course, but it's just so frustrating trying to finish a record on one day (if I'm lucky) per week!

Whew, okay I feel better, sorry about that.

Jordan (Jordan), Thursday, 31 March 2005 20:05 (twenty years ago)

Bitch away!

Maybe you could pin him down for a week in the future/ have him set it aside just for recording, like a real event.

Sarah McLusky (coco), Thursday, 31 March 2005 20:12 (twenty years ago)

I would love to do that. I don't think I can afford any days off because I need them for Digdown touring, but even if we had one solid week of working on it every night I think it could get finished (at least to the tweaking/mixing stage).

Jordan (Jordan), Thursday, 31 March 2005 20:19 (twenty years ago)

Btw, here's a hilarious nugget from the paper a few days ago (there are some weird dudes in this band):

"The show's only moment of awkward silence came after J.P. R0n3y of
best overall artist and best acoustic artist winners and performers
The Pr0f1t$ thanked, among many other things, "the philosophy of Ayn
Rand."

Jordan (Jordan), Thursday, 31 March 2005 20:37 (twenty years ago)

haha "None of this would have possible if we hadn't have been such self-interested assholes."

sunburned and snowblind (kenan), Thursday, 31 March 2005 20:38 (twenty years ago)

Ewwwwww...

n/a (Nick A.), Thursday, 31 March 2005 20:38 (twenty years ago)

http://www.ifp.org/calendar/events.php?chapter=3

Wim Wenders live and in person! and a screening of his new film. I'll definitely be going to this, anyone else going to attend?

Jeff-PTTL (Jeff), Thursday, 31 March 2005 20:39 (twenty years ago)

Maybe if this was happening in 1985.

sunburned and snowblind (kenan), Thursday, 31 March 2005 20:41 (twenty years ago)

Oh, c'mon this man is still a fascinating speaker, even if he isn't making films like he used to.

Jeff-PTTL (Jeff), Thursday, 31 March 2005 20:42 (twenty years ago)

Ha ha dude listens to Coheed & Cambria, "because they're a great band AND they're objectivists!"

Jordan (Jordan), Thursday, 31 March 2005 20:56 (twenty years ago)

that film looks like ass, but maybe i'll go... does it cost $$??

Amateur(ist) (Amateur(ist)), Thursday, 31 March 2005 22:29 (twenty years ago)

15 dollars

Jeff-PTTL (Jeff), Thursday, 31 March 2005 23:54 (twenty years ago)

Yeah, so that show last night was dumb. We need to be more choosey.

Sarah McLusky (coco), Friday, 1 April 2005 13:38 (twenty years ago)

In case you didn't notice:
the bozo show: toby and colette come to chicago

Sarah McLusky (coco), Friday, 1 April 2005 13:53 (twenty years ago)

I'm excited about going to see Jon Stewart at the Rosemont Theater tonight. I am not excited about getting there, tho. Probably best to take the train and then catch a cab at O'Hare, no?

sunburned and snowblind (kenan), Friday, 1 April 2005 15:21 (twenty years ago)

I'm jealous.

Sarah McLusky (coco), Friday, 1 April 2005 15:27 (twenty years ago)

Also, GapersBlock is an April Fool's page today, and it totally took me. I wrote an angry letter. "Poker? You're advertising online poker now? WTF?" And then got a letter back going, "Uh... read the page a little closer, dude." Egg on face.

sunburned and snowblind (kenan), Friday, 1 April 2005 15:28 (twenty years ago)

I'm jealous.

Yeah, I think it sold out in a day, back in December. The tickets were my Christmas gift from Jessa, actually.

sunburned and snowblind (kenan), Friday, 1 April 2005 15:28 (twenty years ago)

i went to the bozo show when i was about 7! is the bozo show still on the air?

Amateur(ist) (Amateur(ist)), Friday, 1 April 2005 15:44 (twenty years ago)

I realize this is a disgustingly stereotypically male suggestion, but does anyone want to get together (pref. at someone's house (possibly mine)) to watch the Illinois-Louisville game tomorrow?

n/a (Nick A.), Friday, 1 April 2005 19:11 (twenty years ago)

Is that a final four game?

Sarah McLusky (coco), Friday, 1 April 2005 19:12 (twenty years ago)

Going out of town, sorry!

jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 1 April 2005 19:13 (twenty years ago)

Might be fun, though: I haven't watched a basketball game in YEARS.

jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 1 April 2005 19:14 (twenty years ago)

I have to have dinner tomorrow night with these great old hippies that we know.

sunburned and snowblind (kenan), Friday, 1 April 2005 19:16 (twenty years ago)

College basketball is dead to me.

Jeff-PTTL (Jeff), Friday, 1 April 2005 19:17 (twenty years ago)

Anyone going to that Sonotheque Pitchfork night next weekend?

djdee (djdee2005), Friday, 1 April 2005 19:20 (twenty years ago)

Tell me more, djdee.

jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 1 April 2005 19:20 (twenty years ago)

:checks website: Wait, Schreiber and Plagenhoef are SPINNING?!? I'M SO THERE!

jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 1 April 2005 19:21 (twenty years ago)

Although I might be compelled to root for both teams to lose.

Jeff-PTTL (Jeff), Friday, 1 April 2005 19:21 (twenty years ago)

http://www.sonotheque.net/archives/000292.php#more

djdee (djdee2005), Friday, 1 April 2005 19:23 (twenty years ago)

:checks website: Wait, Schreiber and Plagenhoef are SPINNING?!? I'M SO THERE!

-- jaymc (jmcunnin...) (webmail), April 1st, 2005 2:21 PM. (jaymc) (link)

Although I might be compelled to root for both teams to lose.

-- Jeff-PTTL (jef...) (webmail), April 1st, 2005 2:21 PM. (Jeff) (link

sunburned and snowblind (kenan), Friday, 1 April 2005 19:24 (twenty years ago)

Yes! that applies in both cases.

Jeff-PTTL (Jeff), Friday, 1 April 2005 19:27 (twenty years ago)

haha its a Fader vs. Pfork party (edge to Fader wrt great music, but plagenhoef could pull an upset)

djdee (djdee2005), Friday, 1 April 2005 19:29 (twenty years ago)

I'm going to a live band karaoke thing after work to see my girlfriend rock out.

Jordan (Jordan), Friday, 1 April 2005 20:00 (twenty years ago)

there should be pitchfork vs fader karaoke

djdee (djdee2005), Friday, 1 April 2005 20:02 (twenty years ago)

They should have a basketball tournament. Now THAT would be funny.

n/a (Nick A.), Friday, 1 April 2005 20:07 (twenty years ago)

djdee -- are you going to be in town next weekend? Is that why you asked about the Sonotheque thing?

jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 1 April 2005 20:20 (twenty years ago)

I think I could eat at Sultan's Market every day and not ever get sick of it. Is that weird? I find myself craving a falafel sandwich constantly.

n/a (Nick A.), Friday, 1 April 2005 21:02 (twenty years ago)

They make good ones.

jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 1 April 2005 21:10 (twenty years ago)

I've never eaten there, are they better than Taste of Lebanon?

Jeff-PTTL (Jeff), Friday, 1 April 2005 21:11 (twenty years ago)

Nick, I've tried eating at Sultan's market every day. Trust me, you get sick of it. Then again, you're a vegetarian, and perhaps the only reason I get sick of it is because after a while, I just can't handle any more fucking beans. Maybe you're more accustomed to constant beanage than I am.

sunburned and snowblind (kenan), Friday, 1 April 2005 21:17 (twenty years ago)

Their lentil soup is delicious.

Sarah McLusky (coco), Friday, 1 April 2005 21:18 (twenty years ago)

I think they're probably better than Taste of Lebanon, Jeff, though both are good. The key to the Sultan's Market falafel sandwiches is to get them "spicy."

jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 1 April 2005 21:19 (twenty years ago)

yes.

sunburned and snowblind (kenan), Friday, 1 April 2005 21:20 (twenty years ago)

where's sultan's market? i plan on doing a lot of eating in chicago

phil-two (phil-two), Friday, 1 April 2005 21:21 (twenty years ago)

Damon and Milwaukee, no? I always get it delivered.

sunburned and snowblind (kenan), Friday, 1 April 2005 21:22 (twenty years ago)

I can't eat that much hummus, it like instantly gives me horrible gas. But it's so good.

Jeff-PTTL (Jeff), Friday, 1 April 2005 21:25 (twenty years ago)

Sultan's Market is on North, about a block west of Damen (Hoyne, maybe)?

jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 1 April 2005 21:26 (twenty years ago)

Yup, Damen and Hoyne.

n/a (Nick A.), Friday, 1 April 2005 21:37 (twenty years ago)

Oh shit, I meant North and Hoyne.

n/a (Nick A.), Friday, 1 April 2005 21:38 (twenty years ago)

I don't really know if Sultan's Market is that special, it's probably about as good as most little falafel places, but I love it because it's really tasty, it's really cheap, and it's really close to my house. Everything I've eaten there has been good, though that's essentially limited to the falafel sandwich, the spinach pie, and the stuffed grape leaves from the salad bar.

n/a (Nick A.), Friday, 1 April 2005 21:40 (twenty years ago)

oh. well i guess maybe if im in the neighborhood shopping or something, i'll try it out. i got some nice stuff at penelopes and hejfina. i'll go there again, i think. but there are like zero good places to eat in my parents' neighborhood. though i guess its not to far from tiffin on devon which is the best indian lunch buffet ever. and that noon-o-kebab place which is yummy too.

phil-two (phil-two), Friday, 1 April 2005 21:44 (twenty years ago)

Sultan's is more just one of those good things to have in your neighborhood, and less of a destination spot of any kind. Assuming he hasn't massively upgraded during the past year. I think the moment it became regularly-eatable for me was the moment he started keeping some meat back there and doing shawarma; for a while I was on this really horrible lazy routine of grabbing that, Flash Taco, or something from the Polish hot dog stand pretty much every day.

nabisco (nabisco), Friday, 1 April 2005 21:47 (twenty years ago)

I've only ever gotten food at Flash Taco once, when I was drunk with ILXors. Is it any good? We usually just go to the place behind our house (Picante), which actually sounds really good right now.

n/a (Nick A.), Friday, 1 April 2005 21:49 (twenty years ago)

Though just about anything sounds good now. I am STARVING YO.

n/a (Nick A.), Friday, 1 April 2005 21:50 (twenty years ago)

All I remember is that it was messy.

Jeff-PTTL (Jeff), Friday, 1 April 2005 21:51 (twenty years ago)

I've said it before, but I think what elevates the Flash Taco burrito is grilled red and green peppers.

jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 1 April 2005 21:57 (twenty years ago)

I remember liking the Enchiladas Flash quite a bit, too.

N, is Picante the tiny little taco-box thingy facing out on Division?

nabisco (nabisco), Friday, 1 April 2005 22:07 (twenty years ago)

the falafel place on foster between ashland and clark is really good too. but pita inn is the best. if anyone wants to make an excursion to skokie one of these days to have the best middle eastern food ever, let me know.

Amateur(ist) (Amateur(ist)), Saturday, 2 April 2005 03:18 (twenty years ago)

the falafel place on foster between ashland and clark

Taste of Lebanon. Yes, I have trumpeted its virtues many times.

sunburned and snowblind (kenan), Saturday, 2 April 2005 04:33 (twenty years ago)

amateurist is right. pita inn = the best. it was sort of near my high school, so me and my friends would go and get $3 shawarma sandwiches and hummus. before it expanded and now its big and has garish lighting. but still tasty and hot swarthy middle eastern men grilling meat.

phil-two (phil-two), Saturday, 2 April 2005 04:51 (twenty years ago)

also, april 1-10 is the chicago international documentary festival. i want to see the one about the roadside hookers in india, the one about the danish woman and her nazi husband, maybe the one about child soldiers in ugada.

http://chicagodocfestival.org

phil-two (phil-two), Saturday, 2 April 2005 05:32 (twenty years ago)

hot swarthy middle eastern men grilling meat.

they're awesome.

jaymc (jaymc), Saturday, 2 April 2005 05:41 (twenty years ago)

if phil-two made a camp gay musical set at a near-suburban falafel restaurant, i would not complain

Amateur(ist) (Amateur(ist)), Saturday, 2 April 2005 14:56 (twenty years ago)

the one about the roadside hookers in india, the one about the danish woman and her nazi husband, maybe the one about child soldiers in ugada.

i think you're thinking of the "chicago international liberal-guilt feel-bad festival"

Amateur(ist) (Amateur(ist)), Saturday, 2 April 2005 14:57 (twenty years ago)

Yeah, I was looking at the listings for the doc festival and I was like "Yeeeaahh, am I obligated to go see at least one of these?"

Yes, Picante is the little shoebox place on Division. They're kind of inconsistent, every fourth or fifth trip our food is semi-shitty, but the rest of the time it's tasty and I like to gamble.

Hey, being on the radio was fun, and they recorded it and I'm listening to it right now and we sound pretty awesome.

n/a (Nick A.), Saturday, 2 April 2005 15:35 (twenty years ago)

where can i hear that??

Amateur(ist) (Amateur(ist)), Saturday, 2 April 2005 15:54 (twenty years ago)

I don't know, I can probably burn you a copy.

Illinois kicked Louisville's ass. It was awesome. Well, I only caught the second half, but that part was pretty awesome.

n/a (Nick A.), Sunday, 3 April 2005 00:18 (twenty years ago)

i think you're thinking of the "chicago international liberal-guilt feel-bad festival"

haha!

phil-two (phil-two), Sunday, 3 April 2005 00:29 (twenty years ago)

I bought my M.I.A. LCD Soundsystem tickets today. TM can die.

Jeff-PTTL (Jeff), Sunday, 3 April 2005 01:18 (twenty years ago)

djdee -- are you going to be in town next weekend? Is that why you asked about the Sonotheque thing?

No, unfortunately - although I'm trying to convince some friends to make a road trip that weekend.

as far as middle eastern food...Couscous! 1445 w. taylor st.

djdee (djdee2005), Sunday, 3 April 2005 08:33 (twenty years ago)

OK, I'll try one more time: if anyone wants to come over tomorrow night (Mon) to watch Illinois vs. NC, I'm extending the invitation. I don't know what time the game starts, but basketball-interested dudes or dudettes can come over after work if they want. Give me a call at home if yr interested.

n/a (Nick A.), Sunday, 3 April 2005 16:55 (twenty years ago)

Land of Plenty was meh, but the Q&A was interesting.

Jeff-PTTL (Jeff), Sunday, 3 April 2005 23:43 (twenty years ago)

was it sort of a Q&A/T&A crossover?

Amateur(ist) (Amateur(ist)), Monday, 4 April 2005 01:16 (twenty years ago)

decided lack of T&A, although the IFP girl that indtroduced Wim was adorable.

Jeff-PTTL (Jeff), Monday, 4 April 2005 01:33 (twenty years ago)

I'm late to the party, but I must also give props to Sultan's Market. Oh, and Bucktown Fitness Center. Two great tastes that taste great together.

Dan M. (OutDatWay), Monday, 4 April 2005 13:43 (twenty years ago)

You've mentioned that fitness place before, Dan. Do you work there or are you just really buff?

Sarah McLusky (coco), Monday, 4 April 2005 13:45 (twenty years ago)

Heh, neither. I just go there to try and combat the effects of my beer intake. On a related note, the dudes that own the place are insanely buff, but also really cool and laid back.

Dan M. (OutDatWay), Monday, 4 April 2005 13:59 (twenty years ago)

Maybe you could pin him down for a week in the future/ have him set it aside just for recording, like a real event.

Sarah, you were absolutely right about this.

I recorded drums for a track last night, but today he's leaving to go on the road for like two months. We agreed that instead of trying to sneak in a couple hours here and there when he's home for a day, we'll take a hiatus until there's a break in the schedule and then finish everything just like we were going into a 'real' studio.

It's a good solution, now I won't feel stressed out because I'm not getting anything done and he won't feel pressured to spend his few free moments recording.

I feel so relaxed that I'm listening to Sam Prekop.

Jordan (Jordan), Monday, 4 April 2005 15:28 (twenty years ago)

Do not operate heavy machinery while listening to Sam Prekop. Do not listen to Sam Prekop unless you can plan on getting a full eight hours of sleep.

sunburned and snowblind (kenan), Monday, 4 April 2005 15:31 (twenty years ago)

I wish to hell I was relaxed. I'm having chronic headaches lately, and this morning it's so bad that it's also making me sick to my stomach. And I'm pretty sure that it's not anything but nerves. I've been in constant knots lately. I need some new hobbies -- my old ones aren't working at all.

sunburned and snowblind (kenan), Monday, 4 April 2005 15:33 (twenty years ago)

I need to be constantly blown for about a week, I think. Not likely to happen, but that's my self-diagnoses.

sunburned and snowblind (kenan), Monday, 4 April 2005 15:36 (twenty years ago)

Do not operate heavy machinery while listening to Sam Prekop. Do not listen to Sam Prekop unless you can plan on getting a full eight hours of sleep.

No joke. I'm probably only in the mood to listen to it because I haven't woken up yet this morning, I've been tripping up stairs and dropping things and having embarassing door etiquette situations all morning.

Maybe you could try knitting, Kenan? I hear it's becoming very popular with young men (seriously!).

xpost, or that

Jordan (Jordan), Monday, 4 April 2005 15:37 (twenty years ago)

I had a dream last night that I couldn't sleep, so I got up and called Kenan, and he kept telling me how he was really stressed, but he didn't know why I would be calling him at this time of the night. It was really weird.

Jeff-PTTL (Jeff), Monday, 4 April 2005 15:52 (twenty years ago)

we have a PSYCHIC CONNECTION.

sunburned and snowblind (kenan), Monday, 4 April 2005 15:53 (twenty years ago)

Here's a question for the musicians:

I'm looking to join a band (I play drums.) Where else besides the Reader and Craig's List would I find people to play with? And is there anyone I should just stay the hell away from?

Dan M. (OutDatWay), Monday, 4 April 2005 17:06 (twenty years ago)

I would just stick to craigslist, that's where we got the most responses. And it's usually pretty obvious who's lame/crazy.

n/a (Nick A.), Monday, 4 April 2005 17:09 (twenty years ago)

Would anybody in the Chicago area fancy a bike ride down the lakeshore path one weekend? Not too far, 10 or so miles would be a nice little jaunt.

Jeff-PTTL (Jeff), Monday, 4 April 2005 17:55 (twenty years ago)

Ha ha. I want to get a bike, but I'm thinking a ONE SPEED and I can't imagine I could do 10 miles, but maybe eventually... No, I'm too wussy. Did you get your bike here, Jeff, or did you bring it with you??

Sarah McLusky (coco), Monday, 4 April 2005 18:02 (twenty years ago)

I got it here, at Kozy's on N. Halsted. It's a Giant Cypress DX. By far the most comfortable bike I've ever owned.

10 miles just flies by! It's about the distance from my apartment to soldier field.

Jeff-PTTL (Jeff), Monday, 4 April 2005 18:08 (twenty years ago)

i am so out of shape that just *getting* to the lakefront from my apartment a few weeks ago just about did me in.

jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 4 April 2005 18:10 (twenty years ago)

I'm also looking for tennis matches this spring, if anyone plays, or wants to learn. Bike trips and tennis matches can be combined too, in one big fun day of physical activity.

Jeff-PTTL (Jeff), Monday, 4 April 2005 18:13 (twenty years ago)

I want this one:
http://kozy.com/site/images/library/large/giant_simple_single_w_pink_05_m.jpg
in chrome blue

but also, my friend Ben got a bike somewhere used - I'll have to ask him where again - for only $45...

Is bike theft a huge problem though? It would suck to have to take my wheels/seat off my bike every time I rode somewhere.

Sarah McLusky (coco), Monday, 4 April 2005 18:23 (twenty years ago)

Get a good lock. I use a OnGuard, with a cable to loop through my back wheel. My seat was quick release, but I got a seat bolt to latch it on there tight. I also don't leave my bike locked up outside for more than a few hours, and never overnight.

Jenny forgot her bike one night at the argyle station and it was beaten beyond repair by someone trying to get the lock off.

If you're looking for used bikes, tons of shops have used ones that are really nice, or if you're really on a budget, check out Working Bikes Coop, you can get one for around 40-60 bucks, but it will need a tuneup/work. Talk to Kelsy too, I think L does some stuff with bikes.

Jeff-PTTL (Jeff), Monday, 4 April 2005 18:28 (twenty years ago)

Uh-oh. I feel a new obsession coming on. Thanks, Jeff!

Sarah McLusky (coco), Monday, 4 April 2005 18:30 (twenty years ago)

I should probably just get bolts for my wheels, since I never take them off. And a bigger/heavier lock.

Jeff-PTTL (Jeff), Monday, 4 April 2005 18:30 (twenty years ago)

Are you a fool to keep using a U-Lock these days, after the big expose about the pen caps? I.e., should I get a new lock?

jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 4 April 2005 18:33 (twenty years ago)

Those were Krytonite locks that had that problem, I don't know if they have fixed it yet though, I assume they have with their latest models. U-locks are okay, but someone can still get through them with a hacksaw if they really want your bike. One of your best bets is to have a really ugly bike with lots of stickers on it that no one would want to steal.

http://ask.metafilter.com/mefi/16310

good ask mefi thread on locks.

Jeff-PTTL (Jeff), Monday, 4 April 2005 18:41 (twenty years ago)

I can't wait to start riding my bike. My super crazy bike friend got me a deal on these big downhill flat pedals with spikes in them. They look great on my 5 speed old-timey rigid frame. If I don't have my inside foot up going around a corner they hit the ground and I jack-knife in a hilariously painful fashion.

Where's a good place to get a cheap tune-up? Some place with some serious bike nerds...

Dan M. (OutDatWay), Monday, 4 April 2005 19:03 (twenty years ago)

Is Working Bikes Co-Op the one down by the University of Chicago? Cause I highly recommend that one -- a little community kids-repairing-bikes thing just south of the midway, where you pretty much have your pick of cute old Schwinns and $60 English road bikes that look like some vicar should be riding them beside some moors. (Big fat seats and coaster brakes and baskets!) I picked up a big yellow sucker there that served me really, really well for a summer, and probably had me as in-shape as I've been in years; I'm still kind of proud of doing three trips from Wicker Park to Montrose and Clark -- down, up, and down again -- in one day.

nabisco (nabisco), Monday, 4 April 2005 19:07 (twenty years ago)

That's exactly what I want - some big cruiser, hopefully an old Schwinn..

Sarah McLusky (coco), Monday, 4 April 2005 19:15 (twenty years ago)

i want to play tennis!

phil-two (phil-two), Monday, 4 April 2005 19:20 (twenty years ago)

Aha: Sarah, the one I'm thinking of is actually the Blackstone Bicycle Works, down on 61st Street by the University of Chicago. They teach Hyde Park kids how to repair and custom-design bikes, and "pay" them with their own rides. So they wind up repairing a lot of donated bikes, and the last time I went there were plenty of 60s and 70s road-bike styles, reasonably cheap and in nice condition. Their website (blackstonebike.com) mostly just has stuff on the community program and the Frankenbikes the kids do -- don't see anything on the sale selection. But when I dropped by a couple years back, I spent like two hours trying to decide between like five different big-ass English cruisers that all completely stole my heart.

I'm pretty sure this picture is by their old building -- but it shows the racing-style bikes, not the cruisers.

ihttp://www.bikefurniture.com/agpho1/bbw2/images/Untitled%2031.jpg

nabisco (nabisco), Monday, 4 April 2005 20:51 (twenty years ago)

http://www.wluw.org/wluwrecordfair/index.shtml

anybody wanna go next weekend?

Jeff-PTTL (Jeff), Monday, 4 April 2005 22:01 (twenty years ago)

You should go on Sunday! Canasta is playing at 12:30. I saw Nabisco there last year. I was carrying a painting of a tooth I bought from D3r3k Erdm@n for something like $20.

jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 4 April 2005 22:21 (twenty years ago)

This is making me sad that I haven't ridden my bike for about two years. I found the tires slashed just before I moved to my current place, and it's been sitting in the garage ever since. It's just as well, I'd only be riding it for fun since there isn't anywhere to actually ride to around here.

Jaymc, did you download that Tortoise cover?

Jordan (Jordan), Monday, 4 April 2005 22:49 (twenty years ago)

I would go to that record fair but I am currently BROKE AS A JOKE. It's no fun.

n/a (Nick A.), Monday, 4 April 2005 23:09 (twenty years ago)

ive only been in chicago for 5 hours, but already i smell like kimchee

phil-two (phil-two), Tuesday, 5 April 2005 05:28 (twenty years ago)

Mmmm...come closer, you.

n/a (Nick A.), Tuesday, 5 April 2005 13:33 (twenty years ago)

That kimchee you brought to my house that time was so good.

n/a (Nick A.), Tuesday, 5 April 2005 13:33 (twenty years ago)

That was kind of creepy, sorry.

n/a (Nick A.), Tuesday, 5 April 2005 13:35 (twenty years ago)

I love kimchee.

Jeff-PTTL (Jeff), Tuesday, 5 April 2005 14:32 (twenty years ago)

Jordan, yes I listened to the Tortoise cover -- it was good! Although to be perfectly honest, I missed the vibraphones at the end, but what're you gonna do? It inspired me to figure out some Tortoise songs for solo piano the other day: "TNT," "Along the Banks of Rivers," and the first section of "Djed."

jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 5 April 2005 14:36 (twenty years ago)

jaymc - update your blogs, dammit. What am I supposed to read at work? Also, I got the Vice grime sampler and I love the Lady Sovereign song on it ("Cha-ching! Cheque 1-2 remix"). Talk to me about Lady Sovereign. I know she has nothing to do with Chicago, but whatevs.
Sarah and I are going to start a supertrendy M.I.A.-style electronic dance pop act. It's going to be awesome.

n/a (Nick A.), Tuesday, 5 April 2005 14:50 (twenty years ago)

Yeah, I really like Dan's arrangement of the first half of the tune for one guitar, but as I recall we couldn't figure out a way to pull off all those parts at the end as a trio.

I'm not sure that I like kimchee.

Jordan (Jordan), Tuesday, 5 April 2005 14:56 (twenty years ago)

I like getting the BIM BAP BOOM or whatever it's called at my local korean resturant. The kimchee is okay there, not the best I've had though.

Jeff-PTTL (Jeff), Tuesday, 5 April 2005 15:17 (twenty years ago)

Sorry Nick! The high school blog is probably going the way of the dodo, unless I can convince myself to update it like once a week. But I was probably a fool to think I could do it every day. As for the main one, it will be updated once I finish this article for Stylus I'm working on right now. I think I'm going to do some sort of 2005Q1 singles retrospective. With downloadable mp3s.

Lady Sovereign: I don't know that much about her! I only have three of her songs, but all of them are awesome, including "Ch Ching." You should also find "Random" and "Sad Arse Strippa."

You know I'd be jealous beyond belief if you started an M.I.A.-style electronic dance pop act. Can I play keyboard?

jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 5 April 2005 15:24 (twenty years ago)

Sure, why not? I'm going to start cooking up some beats tonight when Sarah's out on the town.

n/a (Nick A.), Tuesday, 5 April 2005 15:27 (twenty years ago)

I wish I had some awesome sequencer/drum machine thing. I don't even know what the cool ones are, the ones that sound all distorted and nasty. That's the kind I want.

n/a (Nick A.), Tuesday, 5 April 2005 15:33 (twenty years ago)

You guys should seriously do this. You could open for yourselves!

I don't know shit about sequencers/drum machines, I do it all on the computer (or run keyboards through effects pedals and stuff, but I still sequence it on the computer). They intimidate me, actually.

Jordan (Jordan), Tuesday, 5 April 2005 15:48 (twenty years ago)

Yeah, I'll probably just end up using my shitty Alesis drum machine and running it really hot into the 8-track so that it gets all nice and distorted and squelchy.

n/a (Nick A.), Tuesday, 5 April 2005 16:01 (twenty years ago)

Hey, go sign up to be an extra in a Will Ferrell movie:
http://chicago.craigslist.org/wri/66914179.html

n/a (Nick A.), Tuesday, 5 April 2005 16:04 (twenty years ago)

Hey, anyone got a little advice for a Chicago n00b? What's the area around 22nd/Halsted like? I've got a band audition down there this evening and am a tad apprehensive about carrying around expensive drums. Yeah, I'm white.

Dan M. (OutDatWay), Tuesday, 5 April 2005 17:09 (twenty years ago)

I'm sorry, Dan, but I don't know. Maybe you could at least bring something to throw over your drums for while they are still in the car so no one will break in??

Nick, I think maybe you meant to post this link:
http://chicago.craigslist.org/tlg/66950991.html

Sarah McLusky (coco), Tuesday, 5 April 2005 17:47 (twenty years ago)

22nd and Halsted is right at the heart of the Pilsen neighborhood. It's traditionally very Mexican, but in the last few years, a lot of artists have been moving down there. So there are little hipster pockets, I suspect, in the way of art galleries and maybe bars, but I don't go down there enough to know for sure. Nor do I know exactly how safe it is. My guess is that it's safer than some of its surrounding neighborhoods, though.

jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 5 April 2005 17:58 (twenty years ago)

yeah, it's safer than a few blocks west for sure. that stretch of halsted now has fancy street lights. you can go to skylark, right around there (2149 Halsted) for a post audition beer. good tater tots, too.

i'm working on a yousendit of a 17 minute Lady Sov mix. it was going around on ILM, but i'll post it here for J and N and anyone else who wants it. also search: Shh for the MC.

robots in love (robotsinlove), Tuesday, 5 April 2005 18:19 (twenty years ago)

I don't know how all that shit works, but if you could email it to (redacted) I'd be much obliged. I probably still won't be able to get it since we're still on dial-up at home, but maybe, just maybe...

n/a (Nick A.), Tuesday, 5 April 2005 18:31 (twenty years ago)

for my chicago people:
http://s15.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=3GXD3BBBPUGI31YDIKERM5237Y

if you are dail-up, i probably wouldn't bother--it's a pretty big file since it's 17 min. long.

robots in love (robotsinlove), Tuesday, 5 April 2005 18:32 (twenty years ago)

:(

n/a (Nick A.), Tuesday, 5 April 2005 18:33 (twenty years ago)

I really really wish we had DSL. Esp. right now because I have no money for cds so I want to be downloading a bunch of stuff for free.

n/a (Nick A.), Tuesday, 5 April 2005 18:34 (twenty years ago)

oh wait, yeah, i have that, too! i forgot about it.

jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 5 April 2005 18:34 (twenty years ago)

Will it still be up this evening?

Jordan (Jordan), Tuesday, 5 April 2005 18:36 (twenty years ago)

Who besides Jeff & us is going to LCD/MIA? I am not supposed to know that Sarah got us tickets for my birthday.

n/a (Nick A.), Tuesday, 5 April 2005 18:37 (twenty years ago)

Jordan, it'll still be up. I think it shows off Medasyn's beats better than Lady Sov's mic skillz, but it's still entertaining.

robots in love (robotsinlove), Tuesday, 5 April 2005 18:44 (twenty years ago)

I think J'MC will be going. I'm bring a whole crew to try and offset the asshole deep hipsters.

Jeff-PTTL (Jeff), Tuesday, 5 April 2005 19:24 (twenty years ago)

Yeah, I'm going. Haven't bought tix yet, though.

jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 5 April 2005 19:25 (twenty years ago)

I was trying to think of some non-hipstery gear we could wear, but dammit, EVERYTHING has been coopted by hipsters. I was like, pocket protectors and thick glasses, nope. Cowboy gear, nope. DAMN YOU "IRONY"!

(P.S., don't you love how I talk about hipsters like I'm not one of them?)

n/a (Nick A.), Tuesday, 5 April 2005 19:33 (twenty years ago)

Baggy jeans and hoodies?

Jordan (Jordan), Tuesday, 5 April 2005 19:40 (twenty years ago)

nice collared shirt, tucked in, jeans, and real shoes.

sunburned and snowblind (kenan), Tuesday, 5 April 2005 19:41 (twenty years ago)

Sweatpants, wife beaters, weightlifting belt. How's that for irony?

Dan M. (OutDatWay), Tuesday, 5 April 2005 19:44 (twenty years ago)

wife beaters

more than one?

sunburned and snowblind (kenan), Tuesday, 5 April 2005 19:45 (twenty years ago)

Well, if you're skinny you might need multiple layers to look the part.

Dan M. (OutDatWay), Tuesday, 5 April 2005 19:47 (twenty years ago)

Bandana, tube top, chastity belt, flip-flops?

n/a (Nick A.), Tuesday, 5 April 2005 19:48 (twenty years ago)

http://www.whitehouse.gov/president/holiday/hanukkah/images/400-reagan.jpg

Jordan (Jordan), Tuesday, 5 April 2005 19:48 (twenty years ago)

Yeah, wearing a fake beard might be a good idea.

Dan M. (OutDatWay), Tuesday, 5 April 2005 19:53 (twenty years ago)

Bonnet, pacifier, giant diaper?

n/a (Nick A.), Tuesday, 5 April 2005 19:53 (twenty years ago)

Bowler hat, spats, monocle, tweed suit, cane. An agreeable ensemble for an old kinckerbocker like myself.

Dan M. (OutDatWay), Tuesday, 5 April 2005 20:13 (twenty years ago)

http://www.patfullerton.com/batman/pix/fav-anivillain/a-clockking.jpg

Jordan (Jordan), Tuesday, 5 April 2005 20:20 (twenty years ago)

I'm wearing as little as possible. It's damn hot in the metro in May.

Jeff-PTTL (Jeff), Tuesday, 5 April 2005 20:28 (twenty years ago)

and only a week to go before I start drinking again!!!!!! I haven't had booze for a month!!!

Jeff-PTTL (Jeff), Tuesday, 5 April 2005 20:32 (twenty years ago)

http://www.trenchman.com/articles/girlronald2.jpg

sunburned and snowblind (kenan), Tuesday, 5 April 2005 20:32 (twenty years ago)

Is that a Ronald McDonald outfit??

Congrats, Jeff. That would be really hard for me and I don't even drink that much.

Sarah McLusky (coco), Wednesday, 6 April 2005 12:38 (twenty years ago)

It is indeed a Ronald McDonald outfit.

http://www.trenchman.com/articles/girlronald4.jpg

happy fun ball (kenan), Wednesday, 6 April 2005 12:56 (twenty years ago)

Is there a female version of the name Ronald? Ronaldina?

Dan M. (OutDatWay), Wednesday, 6 April 2005 13:36 (twenty years ago)

Also: my audtion was pretty good although 2/3 of the band had to cancel. Thanks for the advice on the neighborhood, everyone.

Dan M. (OutDatWay), Wednesday, 6 April 2005 13:38 (twenty years ago)

Sarah: we should talk about bikes. I have an old, green schwinn crusier type bike that i was going to sell on craigslist, but if it fits you, I'd rather just give it away to someone who will ride it. I'm not sure if it's what you're looking for, but we can talk about it!

kelsey (kelstarry), Wednesday, 6 April 2005 13:57 (twenty years ago)

Ok, let's talk, K! Does it have foot brakes?? Why are you getting rid of it?

Dan, I'm glad the audition went well.

Sarah McLusky (coco), Wednesday, 6 April 2005 14:11 (twenty years ago)

foot brakes = yes. i'm getting rid of it b/c i like riding fixed gear & this old schwinn is kinda heavy!

kelsey (kelstarry), Wednesday, 6 April 2005 15:02 (twenty years ago)

What's "fixed gear" mean? I know nothing about bikes really. Well, maybe I should go check out the coop this Saturday and get back to you if that doesn't work out.

Sarah McLusky (coco), Wednesday, 6 April 2005 15:09 (twenty years ago)

I'm pretty sure it means it doesn't have brakes, like a velodrome racing bike or something. But that's based on one Google search and my limited bike knowledge.

Dan M. (OutDatWay), Wednesday, 6 April 2005 15:25 (twenty years ago)

It typically doesn't have brakes (i threw one on mine though b/c i'm not a total idiot. i'm also not that hardcore). i don't know that much about bikes, either . . . i just date someone who does. the other thing i can tell you about fixed gear is that it is a one-geared bike & since i don't have mine set up to "freewheel," (freewheel is when you can pedal backwards & nothing happens except when you have gears there is that wonderful sound) this means that when I pedal backwards, the bike slows down & you can use that as a brake like way to go about your ride. i tend to feel more connected to the bike with a fixed gear. anyway. that's my ramble. let me know if you're interested in the bike. it's possible that you might be too tall for it, but it is surely worth a shot. i also like working bikes down on western, if you're looking for a great used bike (re)source. plus, you can feel good about them b/c they do good things like ship bikes overseas.

kelsey (kelstarry), Wednesday, 6 April 2005 16:57 (twenty years ago)

It typically doesn't have brakes (i threw one on mine though b/c i'm not a total idiot. i'm also not that hardcore). i don't know that much about bikes, either . . . i just date someone who does. the other thing i can tell you about fixed gear is that it is a one-geared bike & since i don't have mine set up to "freewheel," (freewheel is when you can pedal backwards & nothing happens except when you have gears there is that wonderful sound) this means that when I pedal backwards, the bike slows down & you can use that as a brake like way to go about your ride. i tend to feel more connected to the bike with a fixed gear. anyway. that's my ramble. let me know if you're interested in the bike. it's possible that you might be too tall for it, but it is surely worth a shot. i also like working bikes down on western, if you're looking for a great used bike (re)source. plus, you can feel good about them b/c they do good things like ship bikes overseas. bikes that might have ended up in the trash, that is.

kelsey (kelstarry), Wednesday, 6 April 2005 16:57 (twenty years ago)

apologies for the duplicate post with only a slight change in the second one.s

kelsey (kelstarry), Wednesday, 6 April 2005 16:58 (twenty years ago)

Fixed gear sounds like a BMX bike. Isn't there a pretty strict limit on how fast you can go? And isn't that speed pretty slow for city streets?

Not that I can even imagining using all 21 gears on my bike, but the four or five that I do use are the highest.

happy fun ball (kenan), Wednesday, 6 April 2005 17:08 (twenty years ago)

how fast you go depends on what gear you choose & how strong yer legs are. you can throw other variables in there like traffic & double-wide strollers, etc. my commute is about 7.5 or 8 miles & i can do it at a not-so-fast pace of 40-45 minutes. on a fast day when i'm still not pushing too hard i can trim it down to 30. i'd say that i'm no slower on a fixed than on a regular bike. yeah. that's basically what i'm saying.

kelsey (kelstarry), Wednesday, 6 April 2005 18:00 (twenty years ago)

I haven't had booze for a month!!!

eww! why would you do this to yourself?

phil-two (phil-two), Wednesday, 6 April 2005 19:05 (twenty years ago)

adjusting to some very expensive new medication, so I really wanted to see how it affected me. But in a weeks time I can go back to including self-medication.

Jeff-PTTL (Jeff), Wednesday, 6 April 2005 19:24 (twenty years ago)

Fuck, it better not be raining outside...

Dan M. (OutDatWay), Wednesday, 6 April 2005 19:39 (twenty years ago)

Hi, if anyone wants to hang out, i think im going tomorrow to a friend of a friend's art opening, and maybe some ray bradbury book launch with free beer, and then to some new-wave party at some place called Neo? then friday is techno party at smart bar with matthew dear & magda. then tuesday is some "dark wave disco" night at sonotheque that sounds like a lot of fun!!!

phil-two (phil-two), Thursday, 7 April 2005 00:47 (twenty years ago)

OMG WE SAW PHIL YESTERDAY AND HE HAD BEEN AT WILLIAMS-SONOMA

n/a (Nick A.), Thursday, 7 April 2005 13:26 (twenty years ago)

Oh, yeah. Shameless self promotion again, watch out:
FF @ THE BEAT KITCHEN
Saturday, April 9th

Sarah McLusky (coco), Thursday, 7 April 2005 13:29 (twenty years ago)

w/ Nuevacats!

n/a (Nick A.), Thursday, 7 April 2005 13:30 (twenty years ago)

9pm
Here's Beat Kitchen's info:
http://www.beatkitchen.com/home.htm

Sarah McLusky (coco), Thursday, 7 April 2005 13:31 (twenty years ago)

And we're playing second. (Your turn, Sarah).

n/a (Nick A.), Thursday, 7 April 2005 13:32 (twenty years ago)

Dudes, it's windy in Chicago today. The wind keeps blowing the doors to my office open and setting off the security beep. I've tried locking them a few times, but then my coworkers get mad when they try to open the door and look dumb when it doesn't budge. Oh, it's so hard being me.

Sarah McLusky (coco), Thursday, 7 April 2005 13:33 (twenty years ago)

I didn't know we were playing second. That's awesome.

Sarah McLusky (coco), Thursday, 7 April 2005 13:34 (twenty years ago)

I rode my bike to work, since the wind was at my back and it was... ahem... a breeze. Getting back home is going to be a lot more difficult.

What happened to all that rain we were supposed to get yesterday?

happy fun ball (kenan), Thursday, 7 April 2005 13:34 (twenty years ago)

I don't know, but it was annoying. I was actually excited about having a thunderstorm.

Sarah McLusky (coco), Thursday, 7 April 2005 13:39 (twenty years ago)

Yeah, I was waiting and waiting for rain too. I hate it when it gets all humid and threatening but never storms. What a rip-off.

The thunderstorms last week blew up all the streetlights on my block. Now that was cool.

Dan M. (OutDatWay), Thursday, 7 April 2005 13:49 (twenty years ago)

Bwahahaha!

Dan M. (OutDatWay), Thursday, 7 April 2005 16:48 (twenty years ago)

You must be a friendly hipster and open to other new hipsters

Ha, I like the idea of hipsters operating at a housepet-level of intelligence/socialization.

Jordan (Jordan), Thursday, 7 April 2005 16:56 (twenty years ago)

Hi, if anyone wants to hang out, i think im going tomorrow to a friend of a friend's art opening, and maybe some ray bradbury book launch with free beer, and then to some new-wave party at some place called Neo? then friday is techno party at smart bar with matthew dear & magda. then tuesday is some "dark wave disco" night at sonotheque that sounds like a lot of fun!!!

-- phil-two (philtw...), April 7th, 2005.


I AM GOING TOO! but i'm also going to the video phone party.

Holly (an appletross), Thursday, 7 April 2005 16:59 (twenty years ago)

The ad says to send a FLICK??

Sarah McLusky (coco), Thursday, 7 April 2005 17:10 (twenty years ago)

You know, home hipster movies. Don't act like you don't have any.

Jordan (Jordan), Thursday, 7 April 2005 17:14 (twenty years ago)

Taken on a digicam or super 8?

Sarah McLusky (coco), Thursday, 7 April 2005 17:15 (twenty years ago)

Cell phone?

Jordan (Jordan), Thursday, 7 April 2005 17:22 (twenty years ago)

THINGS I AM DOING IN THE NEXT FEW DAYS:

1. Decemberists tonight at Metro. I don't even really like them all that much, but Renee has an extra ticket that she's going to give me for free. Whee!

2. Sonotheque tomorrow night. PITCHFORK DJS, PEOPLE! (Actually, this may fall through if I can't find anyone to go with me.)

3. Going to see Fake Fictions and Nueva Cats on Saturday! I will be arriving with a new set of wheels, a new drivers license, and a new haircut!!!

4. Phoenix at the Metro on Sunday!

jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 7 April 2005 17:36 (twenty years ago)

A new car?? Jaymc, did you get a makeover on a daytime TV show??

Sarah McLusky (coco), Thursday, 7 April 2005 17:38 (twenty years ago)

DAMNIT! I FORGOT ABOUT THE SONOTHEQUE SHOW, AND NOW I AM OUT OF MONEY!

(Seriously -- out of money. Until next Friday. The last round of winter bills kicked my ass, and getting my bike tuned up did some damage as well. Do you have any idea how much a new bike lock costs nowadays? I didn't, but I'll tell you: $70. I was stunned.)

happy fun ball (kenan), Thursday, 7 April 2005 17:41 (twenty years ago)

Haha, no.

My mom bought a new fancy-schmancy car and so she's giving me her old one. It's still a pretty nice one, though: 2000 Mercury Sable. It'll be the first car I've driven that has a) automatic transmission, and b) a CD player!

jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 7 April 2005 17:42 (twenty years ago)

That's too awesome. I am teh envious.

happy fun ball (kenan), Thursday, 7 April 2005 17:46 (twenty years ago)

I have gotten pretty used to taking public transportation everywhere, though, since my old car died three months ago. I don't imagine I'll be using it all that much, but it'll just be nice not to have ask bandmates for rides home from practice and stuff.

jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 7 April 2005 17:50 (twenty years ago)

Niiiiiiiice. (I meant new-to-you anyway, not NEW new.)

Sarah McLusky (coco), Thursday, 7 April 2005 17:50 (twenty years ago)

Yeah, no money sucks. I need a haircut and wish I could get one before the show on Sat. but the place I go to is too expensive so I will just be shaggy and gross.

n/a (Nick A.), Thursday, 7 April 2005 18:11 (twenty years ago)

Also, wanting to go to the James Chance/New Black/ZZZZ show tomorrow night but not sure if I can afford it. :( BOO HOO.

n/a (Nick A.), Thursday, 7 April 2005 18:15 (twenty years ago)

I forgot about that show. Whatever, we need to go see Sin City anyway. Anyone up for that?

Sarah McLusky (coco), Thursday, 7 April 2005 18:17 (twenty years ago)

TIME FOR A CHICAGO THREAD FLASHBACK:

Exactly two years ago on ILE, I said...

Yeah, I wish I could've stayed longer to break the ice a bit more. But I was glad to see you again, Nabisco -- and to meet Todd and Sterling. (Although I must admit, Sterling, I couldn't follow your Simon Reynolds conversation, either! But you knew that...)
On the flipside, the Ethiopian restaurant I had to drag myself off to was yummy (Ras Dashen on Broadway).

-- jaymc (jmcunnin...), April 7th, 2003 10:08 AM. (jaymc) (link)

jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 7 April 2005 18:20 (twenty years ago)

That would probably end up being MORE expensive than the rock show!

n/a (Nick A.), Thursday, 7 April 2005 18:20 (twenty years ago)

Ha, J, was that the time Felicity was in town?

Also: Cargratulations! (I just made that up.)

nabisco (nabisco), Thursday, 7 April 2005 19:08 (twenty years ago)

N, it may have been, but I don't know, since I only hung out for a half hour before most people showed up. (Mr. Diamond was going to try to make it! He didn't, but ... !)

jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 7 April 2005 19:10 (twenty years ago)

OMG WE SAW PHIL YESTERDAY AND HE HAD BEEN AT WILLIAMS-SONOMA

NO NO! I was showing some samples from this Australian fashion label I'm repping to a few shops, and I needed a shopping bag to carry them around in - and the only bags my mom had were Williams & Sonoma or Ann Taylor!! So I thought W&S was only slightly less embarassing! Really!

phil-two (phil-two), Thursday, 7 April 2005 20:17 (twenty years ago)

I AM GOING TOO! but i'm also going to the video phone party.

which thing are you going to? also what is video phone party?

phil-two (phil-two), Thursday, 7 April 2005 20:20 (twenty years ago)

Has anyone ever seen the Life During Wartime DJs spin? I've heard about them for a while, and I know that one of them (Disc Jockey CB) is the booker at the Metro / manager of the Changes, but I didn't really know what their deal was. Then I checked out their website and saw the sorta stuff that they spin, and I was like omg, why haven't I been going to every event they're at?

jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 7 April 2005 20:26 (twenty years ago)

seriously... NO, SERIOUSLY... is there anything hotter in the universe than a HOT GIRL WHO SPINS?

happy fun ball (kenan), Thursday, 7 April 2005 21:08 (twenty years ago)

Seriously. I think i just came.

happy fun ball (kenan), Thursday, 7 April 2005 21:09 (twenty years ago)

phil-2 are you still in chicago?

Amateur(ist) (Amateur(ist)), Thursday, 7 April 2005 21:09 (twenty years ago)

p.s. to kenan and jaymc: i got kind of testy in recent weeks and may have (no, definitely) insulted you. i have to apologize for that.

p.p.s. to all: should i ask the girl who works at the place where i volunteer out for coffee??

Amateur(ist) (Amateur(ist)), Thursday, 7 April 2005 21:10 (twenty years ago)

jaymc, were you at that coffee shop when felicity was in town about two or three years ago? i remember todd being there, and sterling.... but i feel like i didn't meet you until we met up in evanston. but my memory is totally unreliable.

Amateur(ist) (Amateur(ist)), Thursday, 7 April 2005 21:14 (twenty years ago)

I was there, but left before you showed up. The first time we met, though, wasn't in Evanston but at Jinx/Gold Star with Nabisco -- ostensibly to meet Teeny, though she didn't make it.

And if it's any consolation, Amateurist, I have no idea what you're talking about re: insulting me!

jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 7 April 2005 21:43 (twenty years ago)

Also, it is never a bad idea to ask someone out for coffee.

jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 7 April 2005 21:43 (twenty years ago)

...unless they have some kind of ideological opposition to coffee i suppose.

i've decided that if i like someone, and they seem to like me, i'm just going to ask them out. nothing gained, nothing ventured, etc.

Amateur(ist) (Amateur(ist)), Thursday, 7 April 2005 21:46 (twenty years ago)

exactly.

jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 7 April 2005 21:58 (twenty years ago)

watch me totally go back on that tomorrow!

Amateur(ist) (Amateur(ist)), Thursday, 7 April 2005 21:59 (twenty years ago)

phil-2 are you still in chicago

yeah until the 13th!

phil-two (phil-two), Thursday, 7 April 2005 22:00 (twenty years ago)

what are you up to tomorrow afternoon/evening?

Amateur(ist) (Amateur(ist)), Thursday, 7 April 2005 22:02 (twenty years ago)

afternoon, nothing. early evening, not much. late evening, techno nite @ smart bar! what about you?

phil-two (phil-two), Thursday, 7 April 2005 22:23 (twenty years ago)

i have work until 2 and then i have to run a few errands until maybe 4, but maybe dinner? drop me an email (it's the same one as on this account).

Amateur(ist) (Amateur(ist)), Thursday, 7 April 2005 22:43 (twenty years ago)

A lot of Chicago has happened. I'm tired.

Jeff-PTTL (Jeff), Thursday, 7 April 2005 23:03 (twenty years ago)

i was invited to that magnolia electric company show on saturday night, but if that falls through, i'll come see FF. i can't believe i haven't seen you guys play yet.

Amateur(ist) (Amateur(ist)), Thursday, 7 April 2005 23:13 (twenty years ago)

Has anyone ever seen the Life During Wartime DJs spin? I've heard about them for a while, and I know that one of them (Disc Jockey CB) is the booker at the Metro / manager of the Changes, but I didn't really know what their deal was. Then I checked out their website and saw the sorta stuff that they spin, and I was like omg, why haven't I been going to every event they're at?

I'm going to see these Life During Wartime DJs tonite at Dark Room!

phil-two (phil-two), Friday, 8 April 2005 00:24 (twenty years ago)

if anyone feels like dancing. i'll be with my pal michelle. im gonna get some sparks before hand.

phil-two (phil-two), Friday, 8 April 2005 00:25 (twenty years ago)

ok, the Life During Wartime djs were TEH SUCK! omg the worst worst worst. it was green day, madonna, emf, garbage, top-40 hiphop. i remember hearing lcd soundsystem and a new order song. but other than that, ooh ugh

phil-two (phil-two), Friday, 8 April 2005 05:57 (twenty years ago)

when i've seen them, the problem hasnt' so much been the song selection, it's that they have no idea how to dj. no sense of transitions, mixing between records, or general dance floor flow. it's just play one song til the end, put a new record on.

robots in love (robotsinlove), Friday, 8 April 2005 06:26 (twenty years ago)

yeah, that too. i heard blue monday go into garbage.

phil-two (phil-two), Friday, 8 April 2005 07:03 (twenty years ago)

Oh no! I thought they looked promising too... :-(

I feel like there is so much to do this weekend I'm going to forget something - maybe to just have fun?

There's this mid-20th century design/furniture market going on Saturday and Sunday advertised in the Reader, but it's $10 just to get in.. hmmm..

You know how Nick linked to that craigslist ad for the Will Ferrel movie for Saturday during the day? Well, the ad I saw in the reader was looking for hipsters to be cast for the same thing at the HIDEOUT tuesday night. It was like, "The more piercings and tats the better!" Too bad I don't look as freaky as I am.

Sarah McLusky (coco), Friday, 8 April 2005 12:13 (twenty years ago)

How was the Sparks, Phil?

Jordan (Jordan), Friday, 8 April 2005 13:17 (twenty years ago)

I think they're casting at SmartBar sometime soon, too!

Sorry the DJs sucked, Phil.

jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 8 April 2005 14:13 (twenty years ago)

Hang the dj.

Sarah McLusky (coco), Friday, 8 April 2005 14:20 (twenty years ago)

jaymc - How were the Decemberists? I thought about going but couldn't convince myself to motate. Stupid vodka.

Dan M. (OutDatWay), Friday, 8 April 2005 14:29 (twenty years ago)

If anyone coming to the FF show tomorrow night wants to bring me burned CD-Rs of awesome music, I would sure appreciate it. I NEEDS ME SOME NEW MUSIC.

n/a (Nick A.), Friday, 8 April 2005 14:32 (twenty years ago)

For starters, we need that basement jaxx song!

Sarah McLusky (coco), Friday, 8 April 2005 14:37 (twenty years ago)

Ooooh, I think I can manage something...

jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 8 April 2005 14:38 (twenty years ago)

I was going to post something about the Decemberists on my blog, but Blogger is down, I guess.

The show was good, although I'm only a mild fan and it was the first time I'd seen them, so I can't totally say for sure. Plus, I thought there were two opening bands instead of just one, so we got there a song into the Decemberists' set and could barely see the stage the entire time. (We ended up going to the balcony, where we could see the stage even less but the sound was much better.) I had a good time, though.

jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 8 April 2005 14:41 (twenty years ago)

My search function is too slow to pull up Chicago Restaurants... Where can I go to get really good Mexican food where they use BLACK BEANS and have lots of veggie options and outdoor seating?

Sarah McLusky (coco), Friday, 8 April 2005 19:18 (twenty years ago)

i totally blew it! we were chatting, and i was all like, "ok, i gotta go send a fax now," and she was like twirling her hair and stuff and it was kind of awkward, and that was it. i didn't ask her to coffee!

oh well, next time. right guys?

Amateur(ist) (Amateur(ist)), Friday, 8 April 2005 19:19 (twenty years ago)

You should have asked her to fax with you.

Jordan (Jordan), Friday, 8 April 2005 19:23 (twenty years ago)

i guess i could still go down and ask her, but now it'll be twice as awkward.

Amateur(ist) (Amateur(ist)), Friday, 8 April 2005 19:23 (twenty years ago)

Chicago Restaurants

jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 8 April 2005 19:24 (twenty years ago)

That sounds a little forward, Am. (chuckle, chuckle)

Sarah McLusky (coco), Friday, 8 April 2005 19:25 (twenty years ago)

For you maybe, she won't care. You should do it.
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Jordan (Jordan), Friday, 8 April 2005 19:25 (twenty years ago)

dudes! i'm losing my resolve! where's phil-two to help me??

Amateur(ist) (Amateur(ist)), Friday, 8 April 2005 19:26 (twenty years ago)

She'll think it's sweet, I promise.

Jordan (Jordan), Friday, 8 April 2005 19:27 (twenty years ago)

i can feel it draining awayyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy

Amateur(ist) (Amateur(ist)), Friday, 8 April 2005 19:28 (twenty years ago)

Do it! It's Friday! It's pretty outside! It will be a beautiful weekend, but so much better if you had a coffee date.

Sarah McLusky (coco), Friday, 8 April 2005 19:32 (twenty years ago)

so girls (aka sarah) tell me: is the twirling the hair thing like an incontestible clue? or are some people just hair-twirlers?

(ok, i'm stalling.)

Amateur(ist) (Amateur(ist)), Friday, 8 April 2005 19:33 (twenty years ago)

Was she grinning while twirling? If so, you should definitely go for it. Just do it. Get it over with. Go NOW!

Sarah McLusky (coco), Friday, 8 April 2005 19:36 (twenty years ago)

(eek)

Amateur(ist) (Amateur(ist)), Friday, 8 April 2005 19:37 (twenty years ago)

Stop being mousey! You are big and strong and charming!

Sarah McLusky (coco), Friday, 8 April 2005 19:46 (twenty years ago)

YOU ARE A GOD AMONG MEN. YOU ARE THE DIVINE HAMMER. ANY WOMAN WHO WILL NOT DATE YOU IS A FOOL.

happy fun ball (kenan), Friday, 8 April 2005 19:48 (twenty years ago)

http://www.villains-lair.com/songs/Gaston.jpg

Sarah McLusky (coco), Friday, 8 April 2005 19:49 (twenty years ago)

(So, this is lack of response means he's doing it, right?)

Sarah McLusky (coco), Friday, 8 April 2005 19:53 (twenty years ago)

How was the Sparks, Phil?

is Sparks a nationwide product? the people i've asked here have never even heard of it! oh no!

Sorry the DJs sucked, Phil.

oh thats okay. my friend michelle wanted to take me there for dance party, but the only people dancing were pudgy girls squeezed into little sparkly tubetops doing that dance where they plant their feet firmly on the ground and sort of wiggle around like they're modelling something.

i feel bad though, i got home and wrote them a hate email (i was that bitter, yes), and the guy wrote back and it turns out a couple friends in new york gave me his name&number to hang out with in chicago. whoops. and he'll probably be at that smart bar show tonite. hope he doesnt recogniz me

phil-two (phil-two), Friday, 8 April 2005 19:53 (twenty years ago)

Honestly, I always do the playing with my hair thing when I'm feeling flirty. So go for it!

jocelyn (Jocelyn), Friday, 8 April 2005 19:54 (twenty years ago)

is Sparks a nationwide product? the people i've asked here have never even heard of it! oh no!

I'd never have heard of Sparks at all if not for ILX.

jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 8 April 2005 20:02 (twenty years ago)

Sparks is definitely sold in Milwaukee.

Jordan (Jordan), Friday, 8 April 2005 20:22 (twenty years ago)

It might be sold here, too, for all I know. Maybe I'm just not part of THE SCENE.

jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 8 April 2005 20:35 (twenty years ago)

The getting real real fucked up on some cheap-ass awful college-student shit scene? I think people will still like you anyway.

happy fun ball (kenan), Friday, 8 April 2005 20:52 (twenty years ago)

hey i love sparks! it makes people go crazy, and then throw up glowing orange

phil-two (phil-two), Friday, 8 April 2005 21:03 (twenty years ago)

It's definitely sold here.

Jeff-PTTL (Jeff), Friday, 8 April 2005 21:48 (twenty years ago)

whoops, mike royko's son just got caught robbing a bank by my mom's house!

phil-two (phil-two), Friday, 8 April 2005 22:08 (twenty years ago)

i went to jewel/osco, but they did not have sparks. how am i supposed to have fun tonite?

phil-two (phil-two), Saturday, 9 April 2005 01:24 (twenty years ago)

Summary of the show last night at Double Door:
The DJ (who I think is one of the dudes you guys are talking about): shitty.
Panic: Shitty.
ZZZZ: FUCKING AWESOME. My new favorite Chicago band.
The New Black: Also awesome.
James Chance: Weird and old.

n/a (Nick A.), Saturday, 9 April 2005 13:13 (twenty years ago)

so i totally choked. i went back down and she was surrounded by coworkers. not the most opportune time to ask her. i guess i'll get another chance.

Amateur(ist) (Amateur(ist)), Saturday, 9 April 2005 13:24 (twenty years ago)

Can they even sell alcohol at Jewel/Osco?!

Jordan (Jordan), Saturday, 9 April 2005 14:28 (twenty years ago)

of course!

Amateur(ist) (Amateur(ist)), Saturday, 9 April 2005 14:29 (twenty years ago)

Jewel doesn't have Sparks, but the little Mexican store near my house (winnimac and clark) has it. Also I've bought Sparks at the liquor store right off the Diversy brown line stop.

Jeff-PTTL (Jeff), Saturday, 9 April 2005 14:32 (twenty years ago)

dudes! i'm losing my resolve! where's phil-two to help me??

JUST DO IT! I mean the worst that could happen is she looks you up and down and laughs hysterically. that's not so bad, is it? OK, yes it is, but that's not going to happen because you are one hot piece of sex-steak. or sex-salad if she's vegetarian. i ask out random people all the time - its easy. of course, they invariably say 'no', but well, she's twirling her hair at you! this is probably no help so i'll just stop now.

phil-two (phil-two), Saturday, 9 April 2005 18:30 (twenty years ago)

Hey we got bikes! We went to Bike Works on S. Western and got two awesome bikes, so now I think we're ready for the ILX bike riding extravaganza. I rode my bike home from the store because we couldn't fit it in the car and it was so much fun.

n/a (Nick A.), Saturday, 9 April 2005 19:02 (twenty years ago)

i think im coming to your show. i'll bring CD

phil-two (phil-two), Saturday, 9 April 2005 19:15 (twenty years ago)

Hooray! Bikes. I think we're going tomorrow to get Jenny a replacment bike.

Jeff-PTTL (Jeff), Saturday, 9 April 2005 19:26 (twenty years ago)

Sarah, the place we went for brunch this morning had black bean frittatas. Not only that, they have CHOCOLATE CHILI FRENCH TOAST.

Jordan (Jordan), Saturday, 9 April 2005 20:23 (twenty years ago)

I am really looking forward to the show. Everyone should come!

n/a (Nick A.), Saturday, 9 April 2005 20:24 (twenty years ago)

is there parking around there?

phil-two (phil-two), Saturday, 9 April 2005 20:34 (twenty years ago)

yeah, you can usually park on belmont within a couple blocks w/o too much difficulty.

jaymc (jaymc), Saturday, 9 April 2005 22:31 (twenty years ago)

hey nick & sarah. really like your show. dont have your emails and not sure if your ilx emails work, but heres the track listing for the mix i made you.

1. architecture in helsinki - "the owls go"
2. the concretes - "you can't hurry love"
3. jurgen paape - "so weit wie noch nie"
4. justus kohncke/freiland - "hot love"
5. justus kohncke - "timecode (edit)"
6. the go! team - "bottle rocket"
7. whitey - umm, not sure.
8. the hold steady - "your little hoodrat friend"
9. mylo - "drop the pressure"
10. erlend oye - "the black keys work (phonique remix)"
11. mu - "paris hilton"
12. the knife - "heartbeats (rex the dog remix)"
13. music for freaks - "the creeps (steve bug remix)"
14. annie - "chewing gum (mylo remix)"
15. the mfa - "the difference it makes (superpitcher remix)"

phil-two (phil-two), Sunday, 10 April 2005 03:36 (twenty years ago)

that's a good mix. i think i've heard a little more than half of those songs, and i give them my approval.

jaymc (jaymc), Sunday, 10 April 2005 05:14 (twenty years ago)

oh whoops, i forgot to bring nick and sarah a copy of the ilx comp vol. 2. it just arrived in the mail today from jel!

jaymc (jaymc), Sunday, 10 April 2005 05:36 (twenty years ago)

I went to the goth club tonight! I love watching goth dancing!

Jordan (Jordan), Sunday, 10 April 2005 06:21 (twenty years ago)

that's a good mix. i think i've heard a little more than half of those songs, and i give them my approval.

u can have copy too! it starts out a bit tweepoppy, then tweetechno'y, the BAGOCK! BAGOCK!. the last song, the mfa/superpitcher remix is like been my obsession for the last few months. obsessed.

dont forget, tuesday, "dark wave disco" night at sonotheque. and if anyone wants to do something on sunday, email me. though i prolly wont get out of bed until around 1.

phil-two (phil-two), Sunday, 10 April 2005 07:09 (twenty years ago)

Meanwhile, I woke up at 8 for some reason. Why is my body so dumb?

Thanks for coming to the show last night, dudes. It was awesome seeing you there. I continued making an ass of myself to that guy from S1lkworm. I forced FF cds on him and was a total fanboy. Meanwhile he and Ben chatted easily about skateboarding for like half an hour. Guh. I am such an ass. I did schmooze better with somewhat more minor members of the Chicago indie scene though. I need to practice schmoozing.

That comp looks binoculars. I don't think I've heard any of those songs, even the Hold Steady for some reason, but I recognize a bunch of those names and I've been meaning to hear some of them (like Annie) for a while. Unfortunately it's still in the car right now so it will have to wait until later.

oh whoops, i forgot to bring nick and sarah a copy of the ilx comp vol. 2. it just arrived in the mail today from jel!

-- jaymc (jmcunnin...), April 10th, 2005 1:36 AM. (jaymc) (later)

Goddammit.

n/a (Nick A.), Sunday, 10 April 2005 12:41 (twenty years ago)

This mix is awesome! Just what I wanted. I think I like the dancey stuff better than the tweepop stuff. And I really need to get the Hold Steady album.

n/a (Nick A.), Sunday, 10 April 2005 15:41 (twenty years ago)

cool! glad you like it!

who's s1lkw0rm?

phil-two (phil-two), Sunday, 10 April 2005 19:30 (twenty years ago)

This band I like that no one else cares about anymore. They were on Matador for a while, now they're on Touch & Go. Basically I've been listening to them for like 10 years, my guitar playing is really heavily influenced by their guitarist, and I'm a big dork over them.

n/a (Nick A.), Sunday, 10 April 2005 20:43 (twenty years ago)

This was the best weekend ever. I love my new bike. Maybe we can go for a ride next weekend? Did Jenny get a new one? Is Lakeshore Drive's bike path too crowded?

Sarah McLusky (coco), Monday, 11 April 2005 12:20 (twenty years ago)

Kinda early, but is anyone going to see The Mountain Goats at the Empty Bottle on May 13th? The boy and I are probably coming, if all goes well.

jocelyn (Jocelyn), Monday, 11 April 2005 13:06 (twenty years ago)

Maybe we can go for a ride next weekend?

Yes.

Is Lakeshore Drive's bike path too crowded?

Yes. But it's lovely anyway, as long as you don't want to go too fast. And there's all of Lincoln Park to ride around, if you want to avoid that main path.

I took pictures there this weekend.

http://giganticmag.com/images/ilx/lakefront_rider.jpg

happy fun ball (kenan), Monday, 11 April 2005 13:18 (twenty years ago)

I could probably be convinced to go to that Mountain Goats show, it will be my birthday weekend and Sarah will be out of town and I will probably be bored and lonely.

n/a (Nick A.), Monday, 11 April 2005 14:03 (twenty years ago)

Bikes are awesome.

I, um, I mean, someone, updated Invisible Crutch with a lengthy description of my, I mean their, awesome weekend if anyone cares.

n/a (Nick A.), Monday, 11 April 2005 14:05 (twenty years ago)

That's a great picture, Kenan.

Btw I had the best weekend ever as well.

Jordan (Jordan), Monday, 11 April 2005 14:12 (twenty years ago)

Me too.

jocelyn (Jocelyn), Monday, 11 April 2005 14:18 (twenty years ago)

It was a good weekend for me as well!!

jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 11 April 2005 14:21 (twenty years ago)

Did Jenny get a new one? Is Lakeshore Drive's bike path too crowded?

Yep, we picked it up on Sunday, and rode back on the lakeshorh path from Harrison to our apartment. It was packed! I made liberal use of my bell.

Jeff-PTTL (Jeff), Monday, 11 April 2005 14:29 (twenty years ago)

I'm totally there for the Mountain Goats. Maybe this time my roomie won't get thrown out of the bar.

Dan M. (OutDatWay), Monday, 11 April 2005 14:32 (twenty years ago)

Ha ha. If you want some He Said/ She Said action, you can also read my blog about this weekend. (Nick's is better though.)

Thanks, philtwo & jaymc, for coming to the show!

Sarah McLusky (coco), Monday, 11 April 2005 14:35 (twenty years ago)

Btw I had the best weekend ever as well.

-- Jordan (jordan...), April 11th, 2005.


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Me too.
-- jocelyn (nalra...), April 11th, 2005.


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It was a good weekend for me as well!!
-- jaymc (jmcunnin...), April 11th, 2005.

I blame spring.

Jordan (Jordan), Monday, 11 April 2005 14:38 (twenty years ago)

I like this picture better.

ihttp://giganticmag.com/images/ilx/bike_path.jpg

happy fun ball (kenan), Monday, 11 April 2005 15:09 (twenty years ago)

Weekend observations:

Every gay couple in Lincoln Park has a dog. Usually a very cute dog at that.

It's getting that time of the year where I want to sit outside of a cafe with a pale ale and good company and chat for hours.

People are crazy for wading/swimming in the lake yesterday. That water is still damn cold.

Jeff-PTTL (Jeff), Monday, 11 April 2005 15:31 (twenty years ago)

Man the Hancock building looks more and more like an air raid bunker gone horribly awry each time I see it.

Dan M. (OutDatWay), Monday, 11 April 2005 15:38 (twenty years ago)

You're crazy. It's a Modernist masterpiece, and one of the most elegant pieces engineering anywhere.

happy fun ball (kenan), Monday, 11 April 2005 16:11 (twenty years ago)

I like the Hancock Tower, but it looks too much like the Sears Tower. They should have painted it pink or something.

n/a (Nick A.), Monday, 11 April 2005 16:19 (twenty years ago)

They're both ugly, just sayin' is all. The building I work in (IL Center) is ugly too, just not so visible. Give me the Wrigley or Tribune Building any day.

Dan M. (OutDatWay), Monday, 11 April 2005 17:10 (twenty years ago)

Oh, I get it. You don't much care for the last 100 years of advances in architecture. You know, Chicago has a lot of lovely public sculpture you can look at instead.

happy fun ball (kenan), Monday, 11 April 2005 17:14 (twenty years ago)

I prefer Wrigley & Tribune Tower as well. I feel about modern architecture like I do about jazz, that it requires some kind of background/education that I don't have to appreciate. Oddly enough, I don't feel this way about most modern visual art.

n/a (Nick A.), Monday, 11 April 2005 17:17 (twenty years ago)

xpost I'm sorry. That was mean.

What I'm saying is, no one will ever build buildings like the Tribune Tower again, nor should they. It's a beautiful building as far as cathedrals go, but it's form is so devoid of function. It's just sculpture. And it must have been hella expensive. Since then, architecture has made huge advances in the design of space, cost efficiency, general practicality, and IMO, the integration of all of these into more coherent vision of what building should be. Great architecture is so much more than a fancy facade.

happy fun ball (kenan), Monday, 11 April 2005 17:19 (twenty years ago)

Or, to put it another way, CHICAGO HAS SOME OF THE GREATEST 20TH CENTURY ARCHITECTURE IN THE WORLD U R ALL GAY.

happy fun ball (kenan), Monday, 11 April 2005 17:21 (twenty years ago)

I was just admiring the Harold Washington Library this weekend. It along with the Aon Center are my favorite buildings in Chicago.

Jeff-PTTL (Jeff), Monday, 11 April 2005 17:21 (twenty years ago)

Since then, architecture has made huge advances in the design of space, cost efficiency, general practicality, and IMO, the integration of all of these into more coherent vision of what building should be. Great architecture is so much more than a fancy facade.

But this is what I'm saying. I don't have the background to appreciate "design of space." I just like buildings that look pretty.

n/a (Nick A.), Monday, 11 April 2005 17:22 (twenty years ago)

I was just admiring the Harold Washington Library this weekend. It along with the Aon Center are my favorite buildings in Chicago.

I love the Harold Washigton, but I feel alone sometimes. It does has a sort of a confused sense of neo-neo-classicism about it, but I think that's a very interesting thing for it to have. Also, drama! It has the colors of a violently stormy afternoon sky. It reminds me of valkyries.

Aon Center wouldn't be half as much fun, I don't think, without Two Prudential Plaza next to it. They play very well togetherr, though.

happy fun ball (kenan), Monday, 11 April 2005 17:34 (twenty years ago)

Hey: those of you with DSL service, what company do you use? Who's cheap?

n/a (Nick A.), Monday, 11 April 2005 17:41 (twenty years ago)

No worries, I didn't think it was mean. This is the internets after all...

I totally appreciate design to achieve an end, be it sun exposure, maximization of interior space, whatever. And, I also see how old timey buildings ignore, willfully or not, these principles. I just don't particularly care for the 2001-esque monolithic feel of the Hancock. I guess it stems from my notion that for all its well-designed aspects, it's really just working to make its investors more money, instead of giving the people of the city something "nice" to look at in return for taking away a slice of their view of the lake. But I'm rambling now. Nothing but love for y'all...

Dan M. (OutDatWay), Monday, 11 April 2005 17:42 (twenty years ago)

re: DSL

My friend just got SBC, she seems pretty happy with it after sorting out a host of inital problems with software driver clashes and the like. I have Comcast, but that's because no-one else can serve our neighborhood for some reason. Seems to me that Earthlink was the best choice according to my internet-nerd roomie, but we couldn't get it.

Dan M. (OutDatWay), Monday, 11 April 2005 17:45 (twenty years ago)

Earthlink - $45/month
SBC - $30/month
Comcast - Their website is fucked and won't let me get to that page with the prices on it.

Guess we know who we won't be using.

n/a (Nick A.), Monday, 11 April 2005 17:57 (twenty years ago)

Comcast ain't a bad way to go... we get digital cable and a cable modem for a total of $40 a month. Ask about their introductory specials. They love new customers.

happy fun ball (kenan), Monday, 11 April 2005 18:02 (twenty years ago)

Since we don't have/want cable, I'd go with anything but Comcast, personally. But for some reason they have a monopoly on our street, not sure why/how. Their service also got like $20 more expensive after the introductory period ran out, like 5 months I think. The one thing I can say in their favor is that it's fast, fast, fast.

Dan M. (OutDatWay), Monday, 11 April 2005 18:06 (twenty years ago)

Some of My Favorite Things (Buildings) in Chicago
by Sarah Johnson

* I really enjoy walking past The Fisher Building. It seems really mysterious to me, in a Titanic death ship sort of way.

* I also love the Hotel Burnham building.

* On a less historical note I enjoy the building with the VERY slanty top that allows as much sunlight as possible. What building is that?
(and Gateway IV" though less so).

* I also don't know the name of the Corncob/Wilco buildings, but love them.

* And lastly, I would like to mention the Drake Hotel, if only for the sign.

Sarah McLusky (coco), Monday, 11 April 2005 18:24 (twenty years ago)

I don't even know the names of buildings or notice their architecture at all! Now who's the philistine!

jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 11 April 2005 18:28 (twenty years ago)

(except the Corncob/Wilco buildings = Marina City Towers, haha)

jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 11 April 2005 18:29 (twenty years ago)

Thanks. :-D
I get giddy whenever I see them in the Bob Newhart show opening shots.

Sarah McLusky (coco), Monday, 11 April 2005 18:35 (twenty years ago)

There's this building I can see from my work, that's a little northwest of the John Hancock Tower, and it's just a plain white skyscraper, but the top 10 floors or so jut out a few feet more than the floors below them, making a "head," and it's one of the most phallic buildings I've ever seen.

n/a (Nick A.), Monday, 11 April 2005 18:36 (twenty years ago)

There's a building like that at my college. It was referred to as the "brick dick."

Dan M. (OutDatWay), Monday, 11 April 2005 18:39 (twenty years ago)

I know that building, too, Nick. I work right near it (so do you!). You can see it from the Brown Line, too -- that's the first time I noticed it. And of course I thought to myself, "Hm. Penis."

happy fun ball (kenan), Monday, 11 April 2005 18:55 (twenty years ago)

I enjoy the building with the VERY slanty top that allows as much sunlight as possible

This one?

happy fun ball (kenan), Monday, 11 April 2005 19:09 (twenty years ago)

I just call that the Adventures in Babysitting building.

jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 11 April 2005 19:11 (twenty years ago)

yup. the Smurfette building.

Sarah McLusky (coco), Monday, 11 April 2005 19:54 (twenty years ago)

When I first got to Chicago we always called the Marina Towers the Jetsons building. I think the idea was that it was built for a future where everyone's flying bubble-pod car could just shoot out from their individual indentations/corn-kernel-pocks and head out to work. As such I'd have been happier to see them on a Stereolab cover than a Wilco one.

nabisco (nabisco), Monday, 11 April 2005 20:09 (twenty years ago)

the Smurfette building.

I think of it as the "Smurf it!" building. Like what a Smurf says when he just can't f'ing take it anymore.

happy fun ball (kenan), Monday, 11 April 2005 20:26 (twenty years ago)

I love all these buildings. I've never been inside of them though.

Jeff-PTTL (Jeff), Monday, 11 April 2005 21:45 (twenty years ago)

THere are so many great buildings in Chicago, sometimes I ride the el around the loop just for the hell of it, to get a good look at them. There's one right after the brown/ purple lines get in that has these thin bars going one over each row of windows, it's my favorite.

Holly (an appletross), Tuesday, 12 April 2005 01:13 (twenty years ago)

I just call that the Adventures in Babysitting building.

ha! me too!

phil-two (phil-two), Tuesday, 12 April 2005 01:49 (twenty years ago)

People with giant umbrellas who take up half the sidewalk can kiss my ass.

Dan M. (OutDatWay), Tuesday, 12 April 2005 13:05 (twenty years ago)

speaking of the show (which was great), the nueva cats now have a website.

www.nuevacats.com

!

kelsey (kelstarry), Tuesday, 12 April 2005 13:53 (twenty years ago)

Actually it's http://www.thenuevacats.com

jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 12 April 2005 13:58 (twenty years ago)

Great video!

Chicago question:
Nick's parents suggested we go for an overnight trip with them somewhere when they come to visit. We would be using my car, driving from Chicago... So, any ideas?? I'm not really excited about going to some historical reenactment town, because I lived in one for 6 years.

Sarah McLusky (coco), Tuesday, 12 April 2005 14:08 (twenty years ago)

Sleeping Bear Dunes in western lower Michigan is really, really nice. It might be a little bit of a long drive for just an overnight, though.

Dan M. (OutDatWay), Tuesday, 12 April 2005 14:22 (twenty years ago)

Wow, the Nueva Cats website is nice. I just sent them a fan email.

Dan, I saw the legendary Blue Line Ski-Doo last week. I was like, yep, there it is.

n/a (Nick A.), Tuesday, 12 April 2005 14:33 (twenty years ago)

Nick, where do you think your parents want to go? Someplace idyllic? A state park or campsite? A quaint town? Etc?

jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 12 April 2005 14:38 (twenty years ago)

Oh I don't know. The only place they really suggested was the Indiana dunes but I think that's because they used to live there (it's where I was conceived). Probably some nice little quaint town with shoppes and stuff would be good though.

n/a (Nick A.), Tuesday, 12 April 2005 14:40 (twenty years ago)

Blue Line Ski-Doo

Yeah, it doesn't move much. The Yooper in me aches to see it free, floating across white fields and down forest trails, its 2-stroke howling with delight.

Dan M. (OutDatWay), Tuesday, 12 April 2005 14:44 (twenty years ago)

I wonder if I have a Yooper in me too. How would I know?

I've never been to Michigan, so that might be nice.

Sarah McLusky (coco), Tuesday, 12 April 2005 15:28 (twenty years ago)

Has anyone here been to Geneva, IL?

Sarah McLusky (coco), Tuesday, 12 April 2005 15:32 (twenty years ago)

I'm going to refrain from the obvious joke...

From http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yooper:

The peninsula is home to 328,000 people, about 3% of the state's population. Residents are colloquially known as Yoopers, (from "U.P.ers"), and many consider themselves Yoopers before they consider themselves Michiganders.

xpost - also, I may be a little too proud of where I'm from.

Dan M. (OutDatWay), Tuesday, 12 April 2005 15:34 (twenty years ago)

Geneva definitely fits the bill of a quaint town with shoppes. I've never been there, but my parents have gone there a couple times and stayed in, like, a bed and breakfast and bought homemade soap and shit like that.

jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 12 April 2005 15:51 (twenty years ago)

Has anyone here been to Geneva, IL?

that was the town i was trying to think of! i haven't been there either, but my sister and bro-in-law had a nice weekend there once, and my parents have gone there too, and enjoyed it. it sounds like the right sort of thing.

JuliaA (j_bdules), Tuesday, 12 April 2005 15:54 (twenty years ago)

888 older messages are hidden.

time for a new thread?????

Amateur(ist) (Amateur(ist)), Tuesday, 12 April 2005 16:28 (twenty years ago)

thread of the big shoulders: son of chicago

Amateur(ist) (Amateur(ist)), Tuesday, 12 April 2005 16:30 (twenty years ago)


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