POPTIMISM is here (as long as "here" is London)! Thursday 24th March

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Club FT is dead, long live POPTIMISM!!

We have moved to The Polar Bear on Lisle Street in London's trendy Up West (does somewhere that close to Leicester Square count as Soho?).

It is £2 to get in before 11, £4 after. We are having to charge because we have to pay for doorstaff. We have been assured that beer is reasonably priced, so it shouldn't end up more expensive than a night at the chapel.

Because it is our first night we are doing ALL NUMBER ONES, ALL THE TIME.

Also, although the club is on a thursday it is NOT A SCHOOL NIGHT* as it is the day before good friday. The polar bear also has a later license so we'll probably be going on until one-ish (there's loads of night bus options round there too so no excuses).

*it is a school night for porkpie though, aw poor porkpie**

**NB porkpie is not an vicar

― CarsmileSteve (CarsmileSteve), Tuesday, 8 March 2005 16:03 (twenty years ago)

look, here is kylie! to tell us more...

― CarsmileSteve (CarsmileSteve), Tuesday, 8 March 2005 16:05 (twenty years ago)

i'm glad it's Kylie in there and not Cheggers

― Sven Bastard (blueski), Tuesday, 8 March 2005 16:06 (twenty years ago)

Haha oops duplicate thread! Sorry Steve!

Crucial info from the other thread which Steve has missed:

- it's my 32nd birthday party.

- FREE GIFTS!!! (if you get there early)

― Tom (Groke), Tuesday, 8 March 2005 16:06 (twenty years ago)

Birthday and gifts, rah!

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 8 March 2005 16:10 (twenty years ago)

Can I come dressed as Mr Blobby aka The Woodsman?

― BARMS, Tuesday, 8 March 2005 16:11 (twenty years ago)

This will be my LAST EVER DAY at Patronising Overlords plc. I may well be a little drunk when I arrive.

― Matt DC (Matt DC), Tuesday, 8 March 2005 16:13 (twenty years ago)

(Basically the free gift will be a CD lucky dip for the first 50 or so paying customers. In the lucky dip will be the CDs we've been using for Popular, because I'm making new ones having replaced several shonky files, added double A sides, etc etc. So what you will get is a SLICE OF CHART HISTORY with my spidery writing on the front.)

― Tom (Groke), Tuesday, 8 March 2005 16:14 (twenty years ago)

Yay!

― lock robster (robster), Tuesday, 8 March 2005 16:18 (twenty years ago)

Teh Incentive!

― The Lex (The Lex), Tuesday, 8 March 2005 16:20 (twenty years ago)

BLOBBY BLOBBY BLOBBY!

― Mr Blooby, Tuesday, 8 March 2005 16:21 (twenty years ago)

also anyone bringing a person that has actually been at number one gets in free. i'm tempted to say that barima in a blobby outfit counts, but i fear this actually happening ;)

― CarsmileSteve (CarsmileSteve), Tuesday, 8 March 2005 16:29 (twenty years ago)

I was in the choir that appeared on East 17s Stay Another Day.

― Matt DC (Matt DC), Tuesday, 8 March 2005 16:33 (twenty years ago)

rubbidge. real actual pop stars only, unless you have PROOF.

― CarsmileSteve (CarsmileSteve), Tuesday, 8 March 2005 16:37 (twenty years ago)

Alan is under strict orders to bring Matt Goss

― Sven Bastard (blueski), Tuesday, 8 March 2005 16:45 (twenty years ago)

Which Chart, though? I've had "number ones". In other countries. On college radio. At individual stations...

I mean, blimey. £2! That destroys all the fun of it, doesn't it?

― Masonic Cathedral (kate), Tuesday, 8 March 2005 16:47 (twenty years ago)

at a meal i sat nearly opposite some guy from tur1n breaks the other week.

― NRQ, Tuesday, 8 March 2005 16:48 (twenty years ago)

Steve, I have a signed Spice Girls CD, an ex-TOTP presenter's phone numbers and my unborn child in Mutya's womb. Good enough?

― BARMS, Tuesday, 8 March 2005 16:49 (twenty years ago)

You so do not. Mutya is bearing the SPAWN OF POP ITSELF.

Can I bring my dad? Not that he's a pop star, it's just that he's flying in that day from Bangladesh and I think it would be funny to see the jetlagged look on his face when all the boys do a synchronised Busted Jump.

― Liz :x (Liz :x), Tuesday, 8 March 2005 16:50 (twenty years ago)

I mean, blimey. £2! That destroys all the fun of it, doesn't it?

No, for as explained, we will all recoup that via the cheaper-than-Chapel Polar Bear bar

― Sven Bastard (blueski), Tuesday, 8 March 2005 17:10 (twenty years ago)

and my unborn child in Mutya's womb.

please bring blood test results kthanx

― Sven Bastard (blueski), Tuesday, 8 March 2005 17:11 (twenty years ago)

Not to mention the in-less-of-a-stupid-place travel costs.

― Matt DC (Matt DC), Tuesday, 8 March 2005 17:12 (twenty years ago)

I am now the proud owner of a Zones 1 to 3 travelcard. I care not about these travel costs any longer! Let's have a FAP in Hammersmith! Ha ha!

I have a funny feeling I'm doing something with Emsk on the 24th March and I've been kind of avoiding FAPs lately anyway.

― Masonic Cathedral (kate), Tuesday, 8 March 2005 17:14 (twenty years ago)

You so do not. Mutya is bearing the SPAWN OF POP ITSELF.

WELL, DUH. Why do you think I chose her?

24th is 3 days after my birthday. This gives me ideas. My favourite no. 1 is probably 'Billie Jean', but any ridiculously danceable no.1 will do - any ideas besides 'Setting Sun', people?

― BARMS, Tuesday, 8 March 2005 17:16 (twenty years ago)

Cher - Believe

― The Lex (The Lex), Tuesday, 8 March 2005 17:21 (twenty years ago)

If you follow that with 'Sound Of The Underground', your tongue becomes a paperweight.

― BARMS, Tuesday, 8 March 2005 17:26 (twenty years ago)

Setting Sun has yet to be played at Club Popular unless i'm mistaken

― Sven Bastard (blueski), Tuesday, 8 March 2005 17:26 (twenty years ago)

please let it stay that way!

― The Lex (The Lex), Tuesday, 8 March 2005 17:27 (twenty years ago)

I'll tell you, that's just too bad.

― BARMS, Tuesday, 8 March 2005 17:31 (twenty years ago)

just for you Lex i will request 'Some Might Say'

― Sven Bastard (blueski), Tuesday, 8 March 2005 17:33 (twenty years ago)

I mean, blimey. £2! That destroys all the fun of it, doesn't it?
-- Masonic Cathedral (masonicboo...), March 8th, 2005 4:47 PM. (kate) (later)

aw kate i'll pay for your entry fee if you like

― ken c (ken c), Tuesday, 8 March 2005 17:57 (twenty years ago)

if you buy me a drink

― ken c (ken c), Tuesday, 8 March 2005 17:58 (twenty years ago)

One week to go.

― Tom (Groke), Thursday, 17 March 2005 17:03 (twenty years ago)

hurrah!

― CarsmileSteve (CarsmileSteve), Thursday, 17 March 2005 17:05 (twenty years ago)

TAKE TAKE TAKE TAKE T-T-TA-T-T TAKE TAKE

― Craig David (blueski), Thursday, 17 March 2005 17:29 (twenty years ago)

Woo, I might come if I'm not in Aylesbury! (Clearly I would like to come INSTEAD of being in Aylesbury but that's not an option.) And if someone gives me a bed for the night.

― Archel (Archel), Thursday, 17 March 2005 17:29 (twenty years ago)

Yes, Liz, take your dad. It seems to be catching on, this bring-yer-parents thing.

My wife will be giving birth that day.

Can someone get me a CD?

― PJ Miller (PJ Miller), Thursday, 17 March 2005 17:32 (twenty years ago)

I shall be there and I shall also be using the MEGABUS for the first time!

― MarkH (MarkH), Thursday, 17 March 2005 18:43 (twenty years ago)

Archel, I have a spare room with a mattress, or a sofabed in the living room, if you need a place. I am in Tottenham, which isn't the most convenient, I admit.

― Martin Skidmore (Martin Skidmore), Thursday, 17 March 2005 19:41 (twenty years ago)

My wife will be giving birth that day.

can you tell me the football results for next week?

― Sven Bastard (blueski), Thursday, 17 March 2005 21:04 (twenty years ago)

It is an elective Caesarean, Sven, you have to book in and everything. The only mystery is how long they will take to do the two people who are before us in the queue. But yes, the Chelsea collapse begins next week, and I can feel it in my waters that Derby are going to do well.

― PJ Miller (PJ Miller), Friday, 18 March 2005 11:54 (twenty years ago)

i handed out flyers to strangers last night!

one was a friend of a friend, so that was easy. but his friends were super excited, and loved the flyer. one said 'i wish this was right now, i'd so go there'

in other news, he told me that the upstairs at the polar bear is known as 'three floors of gay mayhem'. wow.

― colette (a2lette), Friday, 18 March 2005 12:14 (twenty years ago)

What if your waters break?

― Matt DC (Matt DC), Friday, 18 March 2005 12:17 (twenty years ago)

I'm unreasonably excited by this. I've never been to one of your crazy popnights before.

― Johnney B (Johnney B), Friday, 18 March 2005 12:21 (twenty years ago)

Gay mayhem? Well, there go my chances of pulling. :-(

― Masonic Cathedral (kate), Friday, 18 March 2005 12:26 (twenty years ago)

That was the upstairs. The pub is apparently under new management (hence they're looking for new nights) and is moving back to a mixed clientele, rather than an exclusively gay one. Clearly a pop night with Kylie and the Pet Shop Boys on its badges is exactly what's needed to shake off the Polar Bear's gay image.

― Tom (Groke), Friday, 18 March 2005 12:30 (twenty years ago)

This calls for a late great Tommy Vance-style ROCK NIGHT

― Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Friday, 18 March 2005 12:43 (twenty years ago)

Were there any Shoegazing number ones?

― Masonic Cathedral (kate), Friday, 18 March 2005 12:44 (twenty years ago)

No. Bryan Adams was number one all the way through the shoegazing boom.

― Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Friday, 18 March 2005 12:45 (twenty years ago)

Funny you should say that Marcello! If we get the nod for more Poptimisms then the next one may well indeed be some kind of, um, Rocktimism event.

― Tom (Groke), Friday, 18 March 2005 12:47 (twenty years ago)

Stiltskin (almost)

― Sven Bastard (blueski), Friday, 18 March 2005 12:47 (twenty years ago)

Cor! *makes the sign of the horn'd one"

― RickyT (RickyT), Friday, 18 March 2005 12:48 (twenty years ago)

Stiltskin weren't shoegazing. I thought they were more UK-Grunge or something. (Are we thinking of the same band? The jeans advert or whatever band?)

― Masonic Cathedral (kate), Friday, 18 March 2005 12:56 (twenty years ago)

mayhem roxx! ur all three floors of nu-gaze

― mark s (mark s), Friday, 18 March 2005 13:01 (twenty years ago)

No, dear, that's Sonic Cathedrals. (I'm wearing my Sonic Cathedrals badge today after all.)

― Masonic Cathedral (kate), Friday, 18 March 2005 13:02 (twenty years ago)

the upstairs at the polar bear is known as 'three floors of gay mayhem'

excellent, excellent news!

― The Lex (The Lex), Friday, 18 March 2005 13:08 (twenty years ago)

Why Alex, I had no idea...

― Sven Bastard (blueski), Friday, 18 March 2005 13:29 (twenty years ago)

the upstairs at the polar bear is known as 'three floors of gay mayhem'

so this polar bear place has 4 floors???

― ken c (ken c), Friday, 18 March 2005 14:11 (twenty years ago)

but that that polarbear place seems a lot less gay than previously. (it used to have a bit printed on the door under the main sign in chinese that says "Buddy Bar" ("buddy" was a rough translation and is a euphemism for a gay dude in chinese)

― ken c (ken c), Friday, 18 March 2005 14:15 (twenty years ago)

Shoegazing music for blokes with mirrors on their hobnails boots to look up ladies' dresses

― Ther Return of the Son of Dadrockismus (Dada), Friday, 18 March 2005 14:17 (twenty years ago)

shoeogling.

― lundy fastnet irish sea (cis), Friday, 18 March 2005 14:23 (twenty years ago)

That's easy for you to say

― Ther Return of the Son of Dadrockismus (Dada), Friday, 18 March 2005 14:23 (twenty years ago)

That film starring the Village People has just been re-released, if you're looking for some visuals.

― PJ Miller (PJ Miller), Friday, 18 March 2005 14:26 (twenty years ago)

i are getting the ph34r that there will be MORE PEOPLE THAN WE CAN COPE WITH, it is an good ph34r...

― CarsmileSteve (CarsmileSteve), Tuesday, 22 March 2005 21:40 (twenty years ago)

no elbow room with which to perform the Cha Cha Slide? oh, what a pity...

― Sven Bastard (blueski), Tuesday, 22 March 2005 21:58 (twenty years ago)

Starts at 7, eh? I now have to decide whether to hotfoot it home from work first to tart myself up, and risk missing out on FREE CD ACTION, or to hang around in skanky work clothes for two hours beforehand.

― The Lex (The Lex), Tuesday, 22 March 2005 22:39 (twenty years ago)

Cooool, might pop in before Annie down the road. She shouldn't be on till gone 1am down at Infinity (Old Burlington Street) if anyone's wanting to continue the debauchery into Easter Friday.

― MattR (MattR), Tuesday, 22 March 2005 23:09 (twenty years ago)

oh jeebus...

...don't encourage them matt ;)

― CarsmileSteve (CarsmileSteve), Wednesday, 23 March 2005 09:43 (twenty years ago)

if annie spent more time doing things like popworld, cd:uk etc. instead of dj sets in nathan barley clubs then maybe hmv wouldn't be flogging her album for £5.99.

― Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Wednesday, 23 March 2005 09:45 (twenty years ago)

She'd be a hit if she covered 'Bad Uncle' (and you co-starred in the video).

― BARMS, Wednesday, 23 March 2005 09:53 (twenty years ago)

Infinity isn't a Nathan Barley club! it's an indie dive. I think the answer to the whole Annie thing is that she herself is not prepared to put in the hard graft to be a chart-topping popstar, actually.

I am strongly considering following Poptimism with Annie, actually, if others are going. unless the grime night at Cargo (featuring Stush!) will be going on past 1?

― The Lex (The Lex), Wednesday, 23 March 2005 09:55 (twenty years ago)

(xpost)

I am neither preacherman nor toy monkey.

― Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Wednesday, 23 March 2005 09:57 (twenty years ago)

I'm drinking from 4.30, I reckon Annie, let along Cargo, is highly unlikely for me.

― Matt DC (Matt DC), Wednesday, 23 March 2005 09:58 (twenty years ago)

That'll be Exeter Sidings then.

― Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Wednesday, 23 March 2005 10:00 (twenty years ago)

Matt if you will be drinking In Town, I may join you after work. I fancy the idea of ruin tomorrow (ie I have been driven to drink in less than a week by this job).

― The Lex (The Lex), Wednesday, 23 March 2005 10:02 (twenty years ago)

All the new CDs have been made, with a full complement of double A Sides (exceptions: "Cabaret" by Louis Armstrong and "You've Got A Friend" by McFly) and smart new typed tracklists on the way. Nice reliable TDK CD-Rs, not a scratch or mark on them: if they don't work I'll be heartbroken (this is my current paranoia).

I think the Annie situation is half idleness half people not having a clue how to market her except in a quarter-arsed Dot Allison way.

― Tom (Groke), Wednesday, 23 March 2005 10:06 (twenty years ago)

They should be marketing her in a full-on Scissor Sisters way, of course.

― Matt DC (Matt DC), Wednesday, 23 March 2005 10:08 (twenty years ago)

And remember what a cock-up they made of the One Dove album a decade ago!

― Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Wednesday, 23 March 2005 10:09 (twenty years ago)

indeed, but I also suspect that Annie would rather do DJ sets at Nathan Barley clubs than do endless interviews with teen mags, endless rounds of kids' TV etc: Girls Aloud/Destiny's Child et al constantly tell us how they haven't had a day off in years, and seem to put themselves through a promotional treadmill which is really obviously a lot of hard work. Annie doesn't really need to (successful at home already) and nor does it appear that she wants to. it's a cliché to talk about GA/Rachel Stevens etc looking 'desperate' but Annie certainly doesn't.

― The Lex (The Lex), Wednesday, 23 March 2005 10:15 (twenty years ago)

4.30 sounds good to me. as does Annie at Infinity.

― Sven Bastard (blueski), Wednesday, 23 March 2005 10:15 (twenty years ago)

(xpost)

Well she won't mind being dropped by her record company then.

Anniemal - a potential million-selling record torpedoed by the Cool Police.

― Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Wednesday, 23 March 2005 10:17 (twenty years ago)

so annie has the choice to do the grind-work if she wants? this would surprise me, isn't it actually quite hard to get booked by cd:uk etc? also she needed a triumphant video.

― N_RQ, Wednesday, 23 March 2005 10:18 (twenty years ago)

Lex: yes selling her to the teen audience wouldn't work, but I genuinely think there is an audience for 'credible pop' (no, I mean apart from ILXers) that is waiting to be tapped in a big way - Kylie's audience is mostly post-teen, Scissor Sisters ditto. Annie as Saturday night to Dido's Sunday morning?

― Tom (Groke), Wednesday, 23 March 2005 10:20 (twenty years ago)

Exactly. Instead of which we end up with Jem's extended Sunday lunchtime hangover.

― Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Wednesday, 23 March 2005 10:21 (twenty years ago)

the trouble is that it seems in order to be a successful Credible Popstar you need to do your time with the teeny market first (Kylie, Madonna, even R***** Williams). New acts have to be either/or (Rachel Stevens/Jem). Scissasissaz are kind of different I think, they have enough Proper Songs With Proper Instruments to appeal to people who aren't fans of Chart Pop.

how were PSB marketed in the 80s? that strikes me as a possible route which would work for Annie.

― The Lex (The Lex), Wednesday, 23 March 2005 10:26 (twenty years ago)

the PSBs misfired first time around with 'west end boys' i think.

― N_RQ, Wednesday, 23 March 2005 10:27 (twenty years ago)

So where are people drinking in town if they're hanging about between werk and gayhem (if you will)? I would like to pop into the venue to have a shufty, but will need to go have dinner with the father and sister probably not long after 7.

― Liz :x (Liz :x), Wednesday, 23 March 2005 10:29 (twenty years ago)

Alternative marketing strategy = book Annie at GAY and make sure a hi-nrg remix of Chewing Gum is playing in every gheye club in the country.

― Matt DC (Matt DC), Wednesday, 23 March 2005 10:33 (twenty years ago)

Come around Leicester Square to Junction 25. Turn onto the A1012 towards Trafalgar Square and then within 200 yards left at the lights into Lisle Street and follow this over a railway bridge, straight across a major junction into Mollison Avenue and follow the road under another railway, straight over at the roundabout and turn right at the first lights into Innova Science Park. Tell the security guard you are visiting POPTIMISM (the building in front of you). Turn left and first right to take you behind the Polar Bear. Drive to the far end of BIC2 (the square grey building behind the pub and to the right). Our buzzer is beside the last door. On entering, climb the stairs featuring the mottled grey carpet and toss a cheery jest in the direction of the buxom lass.

― Momus (Momus), Wednesday, 23 March 2005 10:34 (twenty years ago)

Scissor sisters started with a novelty hit though! (Same as Steps!) So did the Pet Shop Boys really. But their situation was different - they were coming in at the tail end of a market where synth bands and duos were massive, plus you have to assume Neil Tennant's contacts book was pretty useful.

Annie's route to success: get Chewing Gum into an advert. Work the download market (banner ads - click to play 10 second Chewing Gum clip - on portals visited by 18-30 women at work). Enjoy hit. Get Heartbeat onto a Glamour magazine CD freebie. Release album. And so on.

― Tom (Groke), Wednesday, 23 March 2005 10:35 (twenty years ago)

you have to assume Neil Tennant's contacts book was pretty useful.

That's also why Gay Dad were massive, of course.

― Momus (Momus), Wednesday, 23 March 2005 10:37 (twenty years ago)

The PSBs are a curious case in that their commercial profile actually came up via the club underground, in that the original, Bobby O-produced 1984 single of "West End Girls" died the death in Britain but became a cult dancefloor hit in America. Word of mouth gradually spread, and they eventually remixed "WEG" to make it more New Pop-friendly, astutely reissued it at the end of '85 (to get the first-week-after-Xmas sales) and it went to number one. Interestingly it was only after their initial chart success that Tennant's old chums in Smash Hits, NME, Blitz, etc., started raving about them.

― Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Wednesday, 23 March 2005 10:40 (twenty years ago)

The other crucial thing was that they came into view exactly at the moment (post-Live Aid) when New Pop had irreversibly gone off the boil.

― Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Wednesday, 23 March 2005 10:42 (twenty years ago)

hmm, regular fries and other journo-fronted bands have met with less success.

― N_RQ, Wednesday, 23 March 2005 10:42 (twenty years ago)

Well Art of Noise, the Pretenders and the Boomtown Rats didn't do too badly.

― Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Wednesday, 23 March 2005 10:45 (twenty years ago)

Annie should've been plugged on several music video channels in the form of adverts (or indeed blipverts) - targeting Q, Smash Hits and The Box equally. i think Jem did this.

― Sven Bastard (blueski), Wednesday, 23 March 2005 10:48 (twenty years ago)

I hope you will all look into the National Portrait Gallery while you're in the area, and the National Gallery. The essence of postmodernism is not that pop music trumps all other culture and we need pay attention to nothing else, but that all culture is equally relevant and resonant and there's no high or low any more. So you can obsess over Judith With The Head of Holofernes as if it were a Kylie single.

― Momus (Momus), Wednesday, 23 March 2005 10:49 (twenty years ago)

Scissor Sisters still had enough signifiers of 'proper music' (live band, guitars etc) to convince people traditionally sceptical of pop music though - if anything the fact that they were covering Pink Floyd may have helped. they're sufficiently 'proper' to get massive coverage in NME/Q/that lot whereas Annie will get glowing mentions but not really anything more.

I could certainly foresee people saying of Annie in 10 years that she 'came along at the wrong time'.

most unforgivable marketing error surely = album delay? all the big-selling albums these days are slow burner types (Scissor Sisters, Keane) - the tactic should surely have been to get it out there asap and let word of mouth do its thing.

― The Lex (The Lex), Wednesday, 23 March 2005 10:49 (twenty years ago)

(xpost)

Unfortunately the current presence of the Stereophonics at the number one slot in the album chart rather puts paid to this overly idyllic notion.

― Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Wednesday, 23 March 2005 10:50 (twenty years ago)

does this "national gallery" have a happy hour?

― mark s (mark s), Wednesday, 23 March 2005 10:51 (twenty years ago)

In terms of marketing - they fucked up Annie in the same way that ZTT fucked up Propaganda, and for the same reasons (album repeatedly delayed, moment had passed, etc.).

― Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Wednesday, 23 March 2005 10:51 (twenty years ago)

a big part of it has to be label-related. they've got a pretty interesting roster, but they seem to have zero idea how to market anything. the streets rolled on with a lot of help from skinner's iniative, and if hounds of love hadn't made a sudden impact then the futureheads album would have been doa.

xpost

― lauren (laurenp), Wednesday, 23 March 2005 10:54 (twenty years ago)

The National Gallery has a wonderful bar! Actually I go there quite regularly. It's a good place for dates as well. Perhaps we can have pre-club drinks in the National Gallery Bar.

― Masonic Cathedral (kate), Wednesday, 23 March 2005 10:56 (twenty years ago)

My guess is that Neil Tennant as ex-editor of Smash Hits knew how to use his pop press experience a bit more than the NME rank'n'file who ended up in Gay Dad and Regular Fries.

(Also yes it helped that "West End Girls" is one of the best pop singles of its era)

(And in the Babylon Zoo slot! I hadn't realised!)

The Lex is OTM about album delay.

― Tom (Groke), Wednesday, 23 March 2005 10:57 (twenty years ago)

does Momus have some sort of agenda on this thread? what's your favourite #1 single Momus?

― Sven Bastard (blueski), Wednesday, 23 March 2005 10:58 (twenty years ago)

Gay Dad and Regular Fries should've joined forces to become Regular Dad - they would've sold a lot more records.

― Sven Bastard (blueski), Wednesday, 23 March 2005 11:00 (twenty years ago)

How many would Gay Fries have sold?

― Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Wednesday, 23 March 2005 11:00 (twenty years ago)

does Momus have some sort of agenda on this thread? what's your favourite #1 single Momus?

I am mocking the hideously postmodern Englishness of a pop quiz in a pub near Leicester Square. Do not follow the instructions I provided, you will end up in a car park in Colindale.

As an alternative to the National Gallery, you must all buy one unfamiliar Chinese vegetable and, when you get home, read up on the internet about how to cook it. It will taste as good as any number one hit single, and nourish you to boot.

― Momus (Momus), Wednesday, 23 March 2005 11:02 (twenty years ago)

so you're a 'Seven Tears' kinda guy?

― Sven Bastard (blueski), Wednesday, 23 March 2005 11:03 (twenty years ago)

Pop Quiz? What thread are you reading, Momus? We're all about the YOUNG PEOPLE'S DANCING.

― Masonic Cathedral (kate), Wednesday, 23 March 2005 11:04 (twenty years ago)

It's not a quiz. (Unfortunately).

― Tom (Groke), Wednesday, 23 March 2005 11:04 (twenty years ago)

Momus, it's not a pop "quiz", unless quizzing is usually defined by dancing around like loons to the hits of today and yesterday.

xpost

― Liz :x (Liz :x), Wednesday, 23 March 2005 11:05 (twenty years ago)

Momus while you're here I'm doing something for work on the differences between Chinese and Japanese attitudes to branding - any pithy insights?

― Tom (Groke), Wednesday, 23 March 2005 11:05 (twenty years ago)

I am still trying to think of a way to work in Bonker Boris Johnson into the conversation about chartpop and the National Gallery and Chinese Vegetables.

― Masonic Cathedral (kate), Wednesday, 23 March 2005 11:06 (twenty years ago)

He can't stand any of them.

― Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Wednesday, 23 March 2005 11:08 (twenty years ago)

hint ---> CSI: edgy hoxton

― mark s (mark s), Wednesday, 23 March 2005 11:09 (twenty years ago)

Oh, it's not a quiz? As you were then. I have sent my prejudices back to the fire station. Dancing meets with my fullest approval.

My favouite number one? It's a toss-up between Holger Hiller's Oben im Eck and King Tubby's Gorgon Speaks Version.

Momus while you're here I'm doing something for work on the differences between Chinese and Japanese attitudes to branding - any pithy insights?

The Japanese go for Emotio-Branding.

― Momus (Momus), Wednesday, 23 March 2005 11:10 (twenty years ago)

The parallel Momus universe where Billy MacKenzie had a number one with "Whippets."

― Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Wednesday, 23 March 2005 11:11 (twenty years ago)

The parallel Momus universe where Billy MacKenzie had a number one with "Whippets."

That's the one. Turn onto the A142 towards City Airport and then within 200 yards left at the lights into Thurberfield Way and follow this over a railway bridge, straight across a major junction into Limehouse Dock and follow the road under another railway, straight over at the roundabout and turn right at the first lights into Astra-Ursa Science Park. The parallel universe is on your left.

― Momus (Momus), Wednesday, 23 March 2005 11:18 (twenty years ago)

YOU'VE DIRECTED ME TO THE MIDDLE OF WESTER HAILES YOU BASTARD!!!!

― Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Wednesday, 23 March 2005 11:22 (twenty years ago)

You know that thing where Peel used to call his wife "The Pig" because she snorted when she laughed? I've started doing it too.

― Momus (Momus), Wednesday, 23 March 2005 11:28 (twenty years ago)

Obv. I can't come. My flatmate gave me £20 yesterday, but that was on the condition I spent it going to Art Rocker with her (yes, I know, Poptimism rules, would much rather esp. given the state of the bands on last night).

Sorry guys.

Matt - could you send me an email? I have lost your address and my phone is not behaving at the moment.

― Anna (Anna), Wednesday, 23 March 2005 11:39 (twenty years ago)

It's a pity you couldn't wangle a live set from hot jazz combo Polar Bear, seeing as the club is being held at the Polar Bear, and that.

― Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Wednesday, 23 March 2005 11:41 (twenty years ago)

Maybe when we do Jazztimism.

― Tom (Groke), Wednesday, 23 March 2005 11:41 (twenty years ago)

Oh! That reminds me! (Sorry to be reminded of my new wealth by your poverty, Anna, but I am so happy to be out of the Freelancer's Hell.)

Tomorrow is my first payday as a HOTSHOT ADVERTISING BOD. For the first time in recorded history I may actually Buy A Round. Booze for all! Honest! In fact, I may even stop in Victoria Station and buy Krispy Kreme!

― Masonic Cathedral (kate), Wednesday, 23 March 2005 11:43 (twenty years ago)

(Email sent, Anna)

― Matt DC (Matt DC), Wednesday, 23 March 2005 11:44 (twenty years ago)

x-post I'm still waiting for Dronetimism.

― Masonic Cathedral (kate), Wednesday, 23 March 2005 11:46 (twenty years ago)

Snow Patrol used to be called Polar Bear.

― Markelby (Mark C), Wednesday, 23 March 2005 11:48 (twenty years ago)

There's a lovely shoegazer masterpiece by Ride called Polar Bear.

― Masonic Cathedral (kate), Wednesday, 23 March 2005 11:49 (twenty years ago)

Me, I'm waiting for Improvtimism (Julio and I playing six hours of undanceable dissonance).

I suspect my wait will be rather lengthy.

― Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Wednesday, 23 March 2005 11:50 (twenty years ago)

we could arrange for jazz combo Polar Bear to play Ride's Polar Bear AT the Polar Bear with an actual Polar Bear on drums.

(xpost Kate!)

― Jaunty Alan (Alan), Wednesday, 23 March 2005 12:02 (twenty years ago)

...while reading the Love & Rockets "Valley of the Polar Bears" comic!

― Masonic Cathedral (kate), Wednesday, 23 March 2005 12:04 (twenty years ago)

Alan you've just described a typical video by The Coral there

― Sven Bastard (blueski), Wednesday, 23 March 2005 12:05 (twenty years ago)

and of course last year was Tom's furtive birthday (thanks you've been great)

― Sven Bastard (blueski), Wednesday, 23 March 2005 12:06 (twenty years ago)

oof

― Jaunty Alan (Alan), Wednesday, 23 March 2005 12:08 (twenty years ago)

oh yay, i've been looking for summat to do tomorrow...

― CharlieNo4 (Charlie), Wednesday, 23 March 2005 13:00 (twenty years ago)

I don't think Annie has been marketed very well, at all. Since i have never known of her existence until I saw her IN PERSON at The Social back in October.

Thinking about it the other way, since I am not a regular CD:UK viewer.. I would have never known of her existence had she not been DJing at some Nathan Blake Whatsit Bar! So maybe she's made the right choice (except I still haven't heard any of her £5.99 records)

― ken c (ken c), Wednesday, 23 March 2005 13:22 (twenty years ago)

are you allowed to play Sparks, just cos they had the audacity to tell us earthlings about their chart-topping success "up there"?

― CharlieNo4 (Charlie), Wednesday, 23 March 2005 13:30 (twenty years ago)

no.

― CarsmileSteve (CarsmileSteve), Wednesday, 23 March 2005 13:35 (twenty years ago)

TS: Nathan Barley vs. Nathan Blake

― William Bloody Swygart (mrswygart), Wednesday, 23 March 2005 13:36 (twenty years ago)

vs Nathan Moore?

― CarsmileSteve (CarsmileSteve), Wednesday, 23 March 2005 13:38 (twenty years ago)

kate the Tesco Metro on goodge street sells krispy kreme too! (closer to polar bear but then not quite on your way if coming from the south)

― ken c (ken c), Wednesday, 23 March 2005 13:44 (twenty years ago)

hey Kate, what's the new gig?

― CharlieNo4 (Charlie), Wednesday, 23 March 2005 13:50 (twenty years ago)

I've been working at an ad agency for weeks now, Chuck! Did you not know about it? Ah well, I'll tell you all about it tonight at Friendsday Wednesday.

― Masonic Cathedral (kate), Wednesday, 23 March 2005 13:54 (twenty years ago)

fuck that's about the 3rd time i've seen goodge st tesco menshed here lately. does *everbode* work in fitzrovia/bloomsbury or whot?

― N_Rq, Wednesday, 23 March 2005 13:55 (twenty years ago)

kate the Tesco Metro is looking for new staff as well if your Job In Advertising goes t1ts up.

Well done on that one Kate.

― Johnney B (Johnney B), Wednesday, 23 March 2005 13:57 (twenty years ago)

they also sell krispy kremes at the tesco just down from pic circus and in covent garden across from paul.

yes, i'm obsessed.

they just remodelled and re-opened a new tesco metro in islington and IT DOESN'T SELL KRISPY KREMES! what's wrong with these people?

― colette (a2lette), Wednesday, 23 March 2005 13:58 (twenty years ago)

nrq, yes.

most of them work for ucl/uclh as well (not me, although i do work in the vicinity)

― CarsmileSteve (CarsmileSteve), Wednesday, 23 March 2005 14:00 (twenty years ago)

Krispy Kreme - Melts In Your Hands And Not In Your Mouth

― William Bloody Swygart (mrswygart), Wednesday, 23 March 2005 14:00 (twenty years ago)

...and tastes of the fat they use in KFC

― Jaunty Alan (Alan), Wednesday, 23 March 2005 14:05 (twenty years ago)

Evil Exclusion Zone Of Heartbreak And Death, oh no!

I work in trendy West London now. Man, I hate Hammersmith. I'm sure I'll end up living here within the year. :-(

― Masonic Cathedral (kate), Wednesday, 23 March 2005 14:06 (twenty years ago)

It took me 1 hour 45 minutes to drive from one side of Hammersmith to the other a couple of weekends ago, Kate. And then I discovered I'd gone to the wrong address (this is true)!

― Markelby (Mark C), Wednesday, 23 March 2005 14:09 (twenty years ago)

I DO NOT WORK FOR UCL. THEY ARE MORTAL ENEMIES.

But I work in Bloomsbury. Obv.

Krispy Kremem donuts are
a) Not Crispy
b) Have no cream in them
c) are k-rub.

Poptimisim will be grebt though. Samples of Carling 2 O all around.

― Pete (Pete), Wednesday, 23 March 2005 14:11 (twenty years ago)

I'm liking the look of your 'hood now, Barry, from a commuting standpoint. South of the river, but Wester and therefore closer to work. What's directly south of the River here, and is it any good? All I can see is the giant Harrods furniture depository.

x-post, hush you, fie! fie! Dis not the wonderment that is Krispy Kreme. It has a misplaced K in it. It must be good!

― Masonic Cathedral (kate), Wednesday, 23 March 2005 14:12 (twenty years ago)

pete otm. eeeyuck.

― lauren (laurenp), Wednesday, 23 March 2005 14:14 (twenty years ago)

NEITHER OF YOU are under any obligation to partake of my advertising bounty of donuts tomorrow, then! Humph!

― Masonic Cathedral (kate), Wednesday, 23 March 2005 14:16 (twenty years ago)

i was just trying to be honest. i gave up falsehood for lent.

― lauren (laurenp), Wednesday, 23 March 2005 14:18 (twenty years ago)

Obviously I did not go that far. Giving falsehood up would be darn tricky for me.

This was not in any way meant to be read as a slight on the largesse and generousness of our benefactor. (You are still getting a round in too?)

And remember, free gift for the first fifty...

― Pete (Pete), Wednesday, 23 March 2005 14:21 (twenty years ago)

I've never consumed a Krispy Kreme ever!

― The Lex (The Lex), Wednesday, 23 March 2005 14:22 (twenty years ago)

I've never consumed a Krusty Kreme ever either. I'm intrigued.

― Johnney B (Johnney B), Wednesday, 23 March 2005 14:31 (twenty years ago)

Well! I will get a big box, then!

(Watch there be a f*ckup in payroll and I don't get my big fat cheque of bloodmoney after all.)

― Masonic Cathedral (kate), Wednesday, 23 March 2005 14:32 (twenty years ago)

I SOLD MY SOUL TO THE ADVERTISING WORLD AND ALL I GOT WAS THIS LOUSY KRISPY KREME DONUT!!!

― Masonic Cathedral (kate), Wednesday, 23 March 2005 14:33 (twenty years ago)

there's got to be someone you can complain to about that.

― lauren (laurenp), Wednesday, 23 March 2005 14:34 (twenty years ago)

i like Krispy Kreme donuts. but then, i like Mcdonalds donuts (not as good as they used to be mind). what are those baked Pret ones like?

― Sven Bastard (blueski), Wednesday, 23 March 2005 14:34 (twenty years ago)

And my colleague just told me that I'd go to hell because I ate my Easter Egg before Easter...

― Masonic Cathedral (kate), Wednesday, 23 March 2005 14:35 (twenty years ago)

Now everybody in the club GETTIN' KRISPY

― B - ARMS, Wednesday, 23 March 2005 14:39 (twenty years ago)

Kate, directly south of the river is Barnes, which is very nice but mostly very pricey. If you were keen to live somewhere nearby but cheap, there's always Roehampton, which is 15 mins on a bus from hammersmith, but most of it is away from tube or mainline trains. Where I live is like West Putney, most of which is nice, and it's less expensive, surrounded by green spaces, and near the bus to Hammersmith and the train to Waterloo.

― Markelby (Mark C), Wednesday, 23 March 2005 14:54 (twenty years ago)

Krispy Kreme are not all that at all, and if there's a Paul bakery opposite - then there can only be one outcome, mmmm lovely paul tarte au citron

― ceebee, Wednesday, 23 March 2005 15:02 (twenty years ago)

i'm really all about the Boots Raspberry Bakewell slices at the moment

― Sven Bastard (blueski), Wednesday, 23 March 2005 15:02 (twenty years ago)

Ach, the English just do not understand about donuts. Maybe I should buy a big bag of Greggs nasty blotchy donutoids and toss them to the English while we partake in the wonderment of Krispy Kreme.

Barry, green space and good bus links to Hammersmith are U&K, tubes and trains are not so. I should investigate these places when the weather is good.

― Masonic Cathedral (kate), Wednesday, 23 March 2005 15:08 (twenty years ago)

Greggs 'donuts' are some of the strangest allegedly edible items on this planet. Nothing about them is right.

One of my bets friends has just moved to London to work in Hammersmith: he lives in W Brompton and it is cheap apparently, and within walking distance.

Barnes cannot be too expensive surely, I know someone I used to go to school with lives there at the moment and knowing her there is no way she is earning any sort of decent wage.

― The Lex (The Lex), Wednesday, 23 March 2005 15:12 (twenty years ago)

Kate i thought you WERE English?

― Sven Bastard (blueski), Wednesday, 23 March 2005 15:12 (twenty years ago)

as in Most English Person Ever (Apart From The Accent)!

― Sven Bastard (blueski), Wednesday, 23 March 2005 15:13 (twenty years ago)

he lives in W Brompton and it is cheap apparently, and within walking distance.

but an absolute nightmare if you hate football as it would be crawling with Chelsea fans and possibly Fulham overspill too every other Saturday and Wednesday night or whatever

― Sven Bastard (blueski), Wednesday, 23 March 2005 15:14 (twenty years ago)

Errr... sorry, I forgot. Either way, English or not, Greggs donuts are still An Abomination.

I lived in North American long enough to appreciate good donuts. After all, my colleagues and I were trying to figure out a way to get Tim Hortons fedexed over for us.

― Masonic Cathedral (kate), Wednesday, 23 March 2005 15:14 (twenty years ago)

I thought Greggs were Scottish?

― Dadaismus (Dada), Wednesday, 23 March 2005 15:16 (twenty years ago)

Are they? Well if they are Scottish, they're CRAP!!!

However, I've still got a soft spot for Percy Ingles.

― Masonic Cathedral (kate), Wednesday, 23 March 2005 15:16 (twenty years ago)

Seems they're originally from Tyneside, but first place they expanded into was Glasgow - capitalising the appalling nature of the Glaswegian diet no doubt

― Dadaismus (Dada), Wednesday, 23 March 2005 15:18 (twenty years ago)

I have come to the conclusion that everything you can buy at Greggs is made of exactly the same Greasy Stuff and merely flavoured and coloured differently. I refuse to believe there is any actual meat in those sausage rolls.

― Matt DC (Matt DC), Wednesday, 23 March 2005 15:19 (twenty years ago)

The Pret baked donuts are much nicer than Krispy Kremes, btw.

― Matt DC (Matt DC), Wednesday, 23 March 2005 15:19 (twenty years ago)

Gregg's sausage pasties are fucking disgusting.

― Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Wednesday, 23 March 2005 15:23 (twenty years ago)

Greggs 'American Deli' bloomer sandwiches are nice enough. Of course they don't quite compare to Big Joe Sammich's Pickle Parlour Bruncheramic Speciale on Avenue B but then what does?

― Sven Bastard (blueski), Wednesday, 23 March 2005 15:24 (twenty years ago)

Aren't those Greggs sandwiches fucking tiny, though? No self-respecting American would settle for such a miniscule bloomer.

― Matt DC (Matt DC), Wednesday, 23 March 2005 15:26 (twenty years ago)

My family thought that Greggs sausage rolls were WONDERFUL!!! However...

1) They are Scottish
2) They have been living in the States for so long that I believe they have forgotten what sausage rolls are *supposed* to taste like.

I mean, after all they were buying vast quantities of frozen sausage rolls and MICROWAVING them.

― Masonic Cathedral (kate), Wednesday, 23 March 2005 15:26 (twenty years ago)

http://www.freakytrigger.co.uk/pumpkin/2003_09_01_pumpkinpublog_archive.html#106267352393614164

― Tom (Groke), Wednesday, 23 March 2005 15:29 (twenty years ago)

Matt they are normal-sized. I don't think Americans are the target market anyway luckily. i settle for Boots 'American Deli' sandwiches as well because they are cheap (Meal Deal bizness) and have nice enough pickles and mustard mayo.

― Sven Bastard (blueski), Wednesday, 23 March 2005 15:30 (twenty years ago)

two british things i've never tried: greggs and ginsters. i'm the better for it, i think.

― lauren (laurenp), Wednesday, 23 March 2005 15:31 (twenty years ago)

They aren't Scottish after all ... just repulsive enough to pass for Scottish cuisine

― Dadaismus (Dada), Wednesday, 23 March 2005 15:31 (twenty years ago)

Back in the day, you couldn't beat a Don Miller donut. However, it seems Don Miller himself could be beaten and went out of business years ago, despite also doing great chips. St Ebbes has not been the same since.

― alix (alix), Wednesday, 23 March 2005 15:31 (twenty years ago)

Hamish also consumed scotch eggs, pork pies and ... bloody hell, I can't remember what else he ate. It was all revolting, though.

― Masonic Cathedral (kate), Wednesday, 23 March 2005 15:33 (twenty years ago)

Ginsters products are far, far worse than Greggs, if I eat any of them I feel physically ill in every fibre of my body. I'm feeling slightly nauseous even thinking of them, I think it could be looking at the word 'Ginsters' which is doing it. at least certain Greggs things are relatively safe if not nice (ie stick to the savoury vegetarian stuff).

― The Lex (The Lex), Wednesday, 23 March 2005 15:35 (twenty years ago)

Krispy Kreme - Melts In Your Hands And Not In Your Mouth
-- William Bloody Swygart (thingummy9...), March 23rd, 2005 2:00 PM. (mrswygart) (later)
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
...and tastes of the fat they use in KFC
-- Jaunty Alan (AlanTrewarth...), March 23rd, 2005 2:05 PM. (Alan) (later)

if ONLY, alan!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

― ken c (ken c), Wednesday, 23 March 2005 15:39 (twenty years ago)

as good as krispy kremes are (only ONE misplaced k, kate???), they're no KFC.

― ken c (ken c), Wednesday, 23 March 2005 15:40 (twenty years ago)

So tomorrow before Poptimism is going to be a goodge street KKKFC bonanza.

― ken c (ken c), Wednesday, 23 March 2005 15:43 (twenty years ago)

that's KK + KFC, as opposed to xenophobic soccer team.

― ken c (ken c), Wednesday, 23 March 2005 15:45 (twenty years ago)

In unrelated news, Annie has cancelled tomorrow night @ Infinity, possibly in favour of Tesco's for donuts.

― MattR (MattR), Wednesday, 23 March 2005 17:25 (twenty years ago)

oh well, i'm sure there's quite enough drinking time between finishing work and 1am anyways...

― CarsmileSteve (CarsmileSteve), Wednesday, 23 March 2005 17:31 (twenty years ago)

I'm off! See you all tomorrow (I'm off work!)

Text me if you want to hook up for food, yo! I assume you all have my numbers, or you can find someone who does :)

― Lucretia My Reflection (Lucretia My Reflection), Wednesday, 23 March 2005 17:43 (twenty years ago)

do you like KFC starry?

― ken c (ken c), Wednesday, 23 March 2005 17:51 (twenty years ago)

Lisle Street is south of Shaftesbury Avenue, so no, it doesn't count as Soho (see thread's opening post). It's Chinatown.

― Markelby (Mark C), Wednesday, 23 March 2005 18:32 (twenty years ago)

FORGET IT MARGE... oop, sorry, carry on...

― Sven Bastard (blueski), Wednesday, 23 March 2005 18:34 (twenty years ago)

yes, that was my thinking mark, but i wasn't certain on the southern boundary of soho...

― CarsmileSteve (CarsmileSteve), Thursday, 24 March 2005 10:00 (twenty years ago)

The time for REQUESTS has begun.

― Tom (Groke), Thursday, 24 March 2005 10:05 (twenty years ago)

I walked by the Polar Bear last night on my way to a pub in Soho. It's all covered in scaffolding. Are you sure it's safe?

Now I have to plot a course to Leicester Square going via Victoria as I discovered last night that it's easier and more direct to take the Picadilly Line rather than the District, but I MUST HAVE THOSE DONUTS!!! (I suppose I could stop and get them at Harrods instead but I loathe Knightsbridge. Sigh.)

― Masonic Cathedral (kate), Thursday, 24 March 2005 10:08 (twenty years ago)

CHARLES AND EDDIE PLEASE.

― Matt DC (Matt DC), Thursday, 24 March 2005 10:09 (twenty years ago)

SUGAR SUGAR!!!

(That was a number one, was it not?)

― Masonic Cathedral (kate), Thursday, 24 March 2005 10:12 (twenty years ago)

Wait, today is Monday Thursday, isn't it? Does that mean that Tom will wash all of our feet?

― Masonic Cathedral (kate), Thursday, 24 March 2005 10:23 (twenty years ago)

What Matt DC said.

― (RickyT), Thursday, 24 March 2005 10:24 (twenty years ago)

There Are Only 935 Perfect Songs... (CAUTION VAST POST!)

Sugar Sugar counts, yes Kate :)

― Matt DC (Matt DC), Thursday, 24 March 2005 10:24 (twenty years ago)

Wow! Ashes to Ashes! Excellent!

Oh, and Prince Charming! Please play that as it will make The Spy dance. :-)

― Masonic Cathedral (kate), Thursday, 24 March 2005 10:28 (twenty years ago)

they played 'Sugar Sugar' at Our Disco last week so i like the idea of hearing it every week at a different club now

― Sven Bastard (blueski), Thursday, 24 March 2005 10:31 (twenty years ago)

The original version of Hot Love would be nice as well. I want to see if Tom's schaffel dance translates well to glam rock.

― Matt DC (Matt DC), Thursday, 24 March 2005 10:34 (twenty years ago)

I will not be performing the schaffel dance

(sober)

― Tom (Groke), Thursday, 24 March 2005 10:36 (twenty years ago)

no no, no no no no, no no no no, no no there's no limit!!

― The Lex (The Lex), Thursday, 24 March 2005 10:40 (twenty years ago)

ahoneybringitclosetomy ahoneybringitclosetomylipsyeah

― The Lex (The Lex), Thursday, 24 March 2005 10:40 (twenty years ago)

do you believe in life after love?

― The Lex (The Lex), Thursday, 24 March 2005 10:41 (twenty years ago)

Shit.

― alix (alix), Thursday, 24 March 2005 10:48 (twenty years ago)

I had to pay £4 to have that played, Lex.

(I second the Tori btw)

― Markelby (Mark C), Thursday, 24 March 2005 10:49 (twenty years ago)

Everyone's a superhero
Everyone's a Captain Kirk

― Johnney B (Johnney B), Thursday, 24 March 2005 10:51 (twenty years ago)

(I'm presuming Doctorin' The Tardis is a given)

― Matt DC (Matt DC), Thursday, 24 March 2005 10:54 (twenty years ago)

MY GOODIES! MY GOODIES! NOT MY GOODIES!

― The Lex (The Lex), Thursday, 24 March 2005 10:54 (twenty years ago)

Have a drink to Lily The Pink while we're there.

― Johnney B (Johnney B), Thursday, 24 March 2005 10:55 (twenty years ago)

The Curse Of Xanadu
Dreadlock Holiday
Heart
Feel It
Spinnin' Around

― Sven Bastard (blueski), Thursday, 24 March 2005 10:55 (twenty years ago)

Yes Matt, on the one hand we do play it too often, but this week is special so I should think you'll be hearing it.

― Tom (Groke), Thursday, 24 March 2005 10:57 (twenty years ago)

what i rillyrilly want is zig-a-zig-ah!

― The Lex (The Lex), Thursday, 24 March 2005 10:57 (twenty years ago)

mmmbop, ba duba dop ba do bop, ba duba dop ba do bop, ba duba dop ba do

― The Lex (The Lex), Thursday, 24 March 2005 10:58 (twenty years ago)

if you ain't dirrty, you ain't here to paaaar-teh! (ladies! gentlemen!)

― The Lex (The Lex), Thursday, 24 March 2005 10:59 (twenty years ago)

don't just stand there, let's get to it. strike a pose, there's nothing to it.

― The Lex (The Lex), Thursday, 24 March 2005 11:01 (twenty years ago)

'eezer goode! 'eezer goode! 'e's ebeneezer goode!

― The Lex (The Lex), Thursday, 24 March 2005 11:02 (twenty years ago)

Also as its my last day here School's Out will probably meet with a ridiculous drunken reaction from me.

(I'm going to have to hurt Alex in a minute)

― Matt DC (Matt DC), Thursday, 24 March 2005 11:02 (twenty years ago)

tick, tick, tick, tick, BOOM!

― The Lex (The Lex), Thursday, 24 March 2005 11:05 (twenty years ago)

I believe for every drop of rain that falls, someone gets wet.

― Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Thursday, 24 March 2005 11:58 (twenty years ago)

dry your eyes mate

― Sven Bastard (blueski), Thursday, 24 March 2005 12:08 (twenty years ago)

I could NEVER be your woman.

― BARMS, Thursday, 24 March 2005 12:48 (twenty years ago)

I am the one and only.

― Alix with an I ? (alix), Thursday, 24 March 2005 12:49 (twenty years ago)

more than a lover, more than a woman, more than enough for you.

― The Lex (The Lex), Thursday, 24 March 2005 12:57 (twenty years ago)

Oi! Where's me tiger's head? Four foot from its tail!

― Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Thursday, 24 March 2005 13:11 (twenty years ago)

heaven i, quite literally, a place on earth. obv

― Jaunty Alan (Alan), Thursday, 24 March 2005 13:12 (twenty years ago)

I would like to hear lots of glam - T. Rex, Slade, Sweet, Gary Glitter and so on. I won't be dancing since I have an incomprehensible but painful strain of some kind in my left thigh - as if I dance normally anyway...

― Martin Skidmore (Martin Skidmore), Thursday, 24 March 2005 13:12 (twenty years ago)

i don't suppose Gary Glitter is played out as much these days is he?

― Sven Bastard (blueski), Thursday, 24 March 2005 13:14 (twenty years ago)

Come outside!

You are a one!

― Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Thursday, 24 March 2005 13:14 (twenty years ago)

Lord knows when you add it all up, the cost of real love is - no charge, son.

― Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Thursday, 24 March 2005 13:15 (twenty years ago)

Oh, it's a shame these slugs ain't real...

― William Bloody Swygart (mrswygart), Thursday, 24 March 2005 13:58 (twenty years ago)

with orders to identify, to clarify and classify....

I HOPE YOU'RE NOT STILL AT WORK, JOHNNEY B!

― MarkH (MarkH), Thursday, 24 March 2005 14:07 (twenty years ago)

i thought that's the cost of a neutron.

xxpost

― ken c (ken c), Thursday, 24 March 2005 14:22 (twenty years ago)

are people gonna be arriving spot-on 7pm then?

― CharlieNo4 (Charlie), Thursday, 24 March 2005 16:42 (twenty years ago)

I REQUEST A TELEPORTER

― Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Thursday, 24 March 2005 16:45 (twenty years ago)

No, no, we all know what happens when you start teleporting! You'll start vomiting on people in the dance floor and then eating them, and you know EATING PEOPLE IS WRONG.

― Masonic Cathedral (kate), Thursday, 24 March 2005 16:46 (twenty years ago)

so why does it feel so right

― Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Thursday, 24 March 2005 16:46 (twenty years ago)

No, honestly if I am bequested a teleporter i promise not to eat people. But i may use it to "cheat" on the dancefloor.

― Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Thursday, 24 March 2005 16:51 (twenty years ago)

What smooth dance mooves you would have then!

― Masonic Cathedral (kate), Thursday, 24 March 2005 16:52 (twenty years ago)

Anyway, what is this "cheating" on the dancefloor business? I wasn't aware it was a competition! An ILX dance-off? What a fearsome idea.

― Masonic Cathedral (kate), Thursday, 24 March 2005 16:54 (twenty years ago)

Barima vs Lex: DANCEFITE!

― RickyT (RickyT), Thursday, 24 March 2005 16:56 (twenty years ago)

The Spy would kick both their dancing butts because he can do that Scottish dancing thing with the swords!

― Masonic Cathedral (kate), Thursday, 24 March 2005 16:59 (twenty years ago)

(Oh god, we have just started drinking in my office. It's only 5pm! I told my boss I had a long night ahead of me and he tried to feed me a Vodka Red Bull! They wouldn't allow me not to drink. Peer pressure! Beer pressure! I shall be drunk before I ever arrive!)

― Masonic Cathedral (kate), Thursday, 24 March 2005 17:01 (twenty years ago)

Yeep.

Hey kids, have a lovely evening. No chance of escaping from the family, besides which my dad wants to start driving to Scotland at 5 tomorrow morning. Arg. Bummed to be missing the first P!O!P!T!I!M!I!S!M! but hey you know.

― Liz :x (Liz :x), Thursday, 24 March 2005 17:08 (twenty years ago)

Oh no! Have fun with the 'Rental Unit, though. Plus, Scotland. Land of lovely SCOTCH. And dancing with swords. Hurrah.

― Masonic Cathedral (kate), Thursday, 24 March 2005 17:09 (twenty years ago)

OK, CDs finished, Poptimism is go.

― Tom (Groke), Thursday, 24 March 2005 17:24 (twenty years ago)

I hope Poptimism happens while I am in London next.

― roxymuzak (roxymuzak), Thursday, 24 March 2005 20:31 (twenty years ago)

The Spy would kick both their dancing butts because he can do that Scottish dancing thing with the swords!

The one where they rather gratifyingly stab themselves? Yeah, guess I can't compete with that...

― Deerninja B4rim4, Plus-Tech Whizz Kid (Barima), Thursday, 24 March 2005 21:21 (twenty years ago)

you know it's a success when there's no space for the busted jump

― mark s (mark s), Thursday, 24 March 2005 23:31 (twenty years ago)

WOW

― RickyT (RickyT), Friday, 25 March 2005 10:49 (twenty years ago)

so how are kicks in london?

― etc, Friday, 25 March 2005 10:55 (twenty years ago)

Note to self: do not headbang to Black Legend. It cannot bring good things.

― William Bloody Swygart (mrswygart), Friday, 25 March 2005 11:05 (twenty years ago)

so so good!

― The Lex (The Lex), Friday, 25 March 2005 11:07 (twenty years ago)

hurrah! i thought the entire interweb might have died in a bin, but no, there are signs of life :)

well done everyone, top night.

― CarsmileSteve (CarsmileSteve), Friday, 25 March 2005 11:39 (twenty years ago)

Yes, thanks for coming, good work everyone. Hope nobody I know got the CD with The Stonk on it!

― Tom (Groke), Friday, 25 March 2005 13:30 (twenty years ago)

you know it's a success when there's no space for the busted jump

Until the last song ('The Way To Amarillo'!).

― Deerninja B4rim4, Plus-Tech Whizz Kid (Barima), Friday, 25 March 2005 14:11 (twenty years ago)

you know it's a success when there's no space for the busted jump

I laugh in the face of your puny space considerations. Cis and I managed the traditional simultaneous Busted jump on about three occasions, I'm sure.

Still SO MUCH GOODNESS. Last night I learnt that:

1. Mr Vain is a TUNE.

2. So is Bring Your Daughter To The Slaughter.

3. Doing proper diddley-dee "what is he loike?" line dancing to C'Est La Vie while drunk is REALLY DIFFICULT.

4. Everyone is so eager to launch into the John Barnes rap during World In Motion that they all start about four bars early and then look sheepish.

5. When Dr Who fans play Doctorin' The Tardis on the eve of the new series, everyone knows that, as night follows day, Because We Want To is coming next.

Top night everyone - proper punters off the street we didn't know and everything! Enjoying themselves! Next goal = move it to a Friday, clearly. I can't imagine how horrific this morning would've been if I'd been at work.

― Matt DC (Matt DC), Friday, 25 March 2005 14:33 (twenty years ago)

jesus B*Witched.....cannot........re-evaluate.......ears closing!

― Ronan (Ronan), Friday, 25 March 2005 14:34 (twenty years ago)

Also BEST CLUB FT EVER!

Even if it isn't Club FT really. BEST POPTIMISM EVER!

― Matt DC (Matt DC), Friday, 25 March 2005 14:40 (twenty years ago)

For the record, Doctorin' the Tardis into Because We Want to was Carsmile's idea.

so much fun!

― lundy fastnet irish sea (cis), Friday, 25 March 2005 15:47 (twenty years ago)

ISTR that DitT into BWWt has actually been done before at Club FT!

WELL DONE AND THANKS to everyone ever. I look fwd to this becoming a regular thing.

My feet hurt, and i am not ruined - despite thee cheap booze and sweating like several pigs that have been for a jog, i drank a lot less, stayed almost sober, and had teh fun. i also managed the odd busted jump.

― Jaunty Alan (Alan), Friday, 25 March 2005 16:34 (twenty years ago)

Nice to meet Johnney B by the way - come down again!

I am Seal Clubbing as well. I fear the ruin. I may bring the Timelords though :)

― Matt DC (Matt DC), Friday, 25 March 2005 16:38 (twenty years ago)

well, my head hurted this morning.

― ken c (ken c), Friday, 25 March 2005 23:14 (twenty years ago)

disco.. people etc.
http://www.lolrider.com/poptimism/DCP_4395.JPG

― ken c (ken c), Saturday, 26 March 2005 03:53 (twenty years ago)

\m/
http://www.lolrider.com/poptimism/DCP_4397.JPG

― ken c (ken c), Saturday, 26 March 2005 03:54 (twenty years ago)

gay dancing
http://www.lolrider.com/poptimism/DCP_4406.JPG

― ken c (ken c), Saturday, 26 March 2005 03:55 (twenty years ago)

TITS.JPG
http://www.lolrider.com/poptimism/DCP_4410.JPG

(actually it appears to be a shoulder on closer inspection)

― ken c (ken c), Saturday, 26 March 2005 03:55 (twenty years ago)

marianna: "you fancy stevem? you should ask him out"
http://www.lolrider.com/poptimism/DCP_4415.JPG

― ken c (ken c), Saturday, 26 March 2005 03:56 (twenty years ago)

ken c: too late
http://www.lolrider.com/poptimism/DCP_4418.JPG

― ken c (ken c), Saturday, 26 March 2005 03:57 (twenty years ago)

http://www.lolrider.com/poptimism/DCP_4419.JPG
!!
i know it's hard to take but his mind has been made up. there's plenty more fish in the sea

― ken c (ken c), Saturday, 26 March 2005 03:58 (twenty years ago)

That's the life.

― Eyeball Kicks (Eyeball Kicks), Saturday, 26 March 2005 03:58 (twenty years ago)

http://www.lolrider.com/poptimism/DCP_4420.JPG

!!!!!!!! :( :( :( :( "ken you bastard"

― ken c (ken c), Saturday, 26 March 2005 03:58 (twenty years ago)

http://www.lolrider.com/poptimism/DCP_4421.JPG
The fight for stevem

― ken c (ken c), Saturday, 26 March 2005 03:59 (twenty years ago)

http://www.lolrider.com/poptimism/DCP_4426.JPG
i won, obv

― ken c (ken c), Saturday, 26 March 2005 03:59 (twenty years ago)

http://www.lolrider.com/poptimism/DCP_4429.JPG
aarrgh the pain

― ken c (ken c), Saturday, 26 March 2005 04:00 (twenty years ago)

http://www.lolrider.com/poptimism/DCP_4428.JPG
wbs: eep this is a rough neighbourhood

― ken c (ken c), Saturday, 26 March 2005 04:01 (twenty years ago)

http://www.lolrider.com/poptimism/DCP_4430.JPG
"better start practicing the martial art of elbowing"

― ken c (ken c), Saturday, 26 March 2005 04:01 (twenty years ago)

http://www.lolrider.com/poptimism/DCP_4432.JPG
barima: "maybe i should go for impressionable girls instead mmmmhhmmmm"

― ken c (ken c), Saturday, 26 March 2005 04:02 (twenty years ago)

http://www.lolrider.com/poptimism/DCP_4431.JPG
"..impress them with deep thoughts"

― ken c (ken c), Saturday, 26 March 2005 04:03 (twenty years ago)

http://www.lolrider.com/poptimism/DCP_4433.JPG
".. tell a funny joke or two"

― ken c (ken c), Saturday, 26 March 2005 04:04 (twenty years ago)

http://www.lolrider.com/poptimism/DCP_4434.JPG
"AND BINGO! PIMP CITY HERE I COME"

― ken c (ken c), Saturday, 26 March 2005 04:04 (twenty years ago)

http://www.lolrider.com/poptimism/DCP_4436.JPG
and of course do not forget to be courteous at all times.

― ken c (ken c), Saturday, 26 March 2005 04:06 (twenty years ago)

http://www.lolrider.com/poptimism/DCP_4447.JPG
stevem "ok now suddenly barima is really turning me on. i bet he just put on some lynx, bye ken"

― ken c (ken c), Saturday, 26 March 2005 04:07 (twenty years ago)

http://www.lolrider.com/poptimism/DCP_4459.JPG
They live happily ever after.

The End

― ken c (ken c), Saturday, 26 March 2005 04:08 (twenty years ago)

That pimp city pic is the greatest photograph I have ever seen.

That licking picture is possible the worst.

― Matt DC (Matt DC), Saturday, 26 March 2005 04:38 (twenty years ago)

homophobe

― ken c (ken c), Saturday, 26 March 2005 04:45 (twenty years ago)

Cripes. Apropos of not much, Mr Swygart is awfully gorgeous!

Great pix Ken!

― Trayce (trayce), Saturday, 26 March 2005 05:49 (twenty years ago)

proper punters off the street we didn't know and everything! Enjoying themselves!

um, not true actually. anyone you didn't recognise was either a work colleague of mine (ie ppl in background of pics above) or an ljer...

good pics btw ken :)

― CarsmileSteve (CarsmileSteve), Saturday, 26 March 2005 10:37 (twenty years ago)

I think there were two late-doors real punters actually. They were in the corner with the late arriving Research Int'l mob but they weren't with with them.

I wasn't ruined either. Though £2 a pint! At one of our club nights! That I should live to see this day etc etc.

― Tom (Groke), Saturday, 26 March 2005 10:49 (twenty years ago)

i was pretty pissed, it has to be said. also poorly shoulder wasn't helped by drunken dj shape throwing...

the guiness was still 2.95, but there you go

― CarsmileSteve (CarsmileSteve), Saturday, 26 March 2005 10:55 (twenty years ago)

£5 a bottle of wine omg wtf

― ken c (ken c), Saturday, 26 March 2005 11:26 (twenty years ago)

wonderful photos Ken!

this New Cheap Booze will mean utter ruin in the future for our Fridays...

― The Lex (The Lex), Saturday, 26 March 2005 12:02 (twenty years ago)

those photos are so hottt.

― lundy fastnet irish sea (cis), Saturday, 26 March 2005 12:06 (twenty years ago)

#3 double vodkas. Oh, the ruin.

Money cannot buy you love. And money cannot buy you happiness. But it sure can buy you a LOT of donuts!

(Everything I ever needed to know about life, I learned from Homer Simpson.)

― Masonic Cathedral (kate), Saturday, 26 March 2005 13:05 (twenty years ago)

Those donuts roXored. Esp the one with LEMON CURD in it!

― RickyT (RickyT), Saturday, 26 March 2005 13:09 (twenty years ago)

oh no, I missed the lemon curd donut! I love lemon curd! but nevertheless: losing my Krispy Kreme virginity was a treat and a half.

― The Lex (The Lex), Saturday, 26 March 2005 13:38 (twenty years ago)

Alex, what did you DO to the donuts? Omg I hope I didn't eat the ones you'd soiled...

― Markelby (Mark C), Saturday, 26 March 2005 13:53 (twenty years ago)

orginal glazed, innit

― ken c (ken c), Saturday, 26 March 2005 15:33 (twenty years ago)

Ken, remember when you got locked in the back are and no one noticed? And Marianna let you back in and you were all dishevelled? Good times!

― Deerninja B4rim4, Plus-Tech Whizz Kid (Barima), Saturday, 26 March 2005 17:19 (twenty years ago)

Hey! I'll have you know that I was locked in the back room too. And after we banged on the door for AGES whilst you lot ignored us and danced, I adventured through about 1km of secret hallways, ended up outside in some other Chinatown alley, walked back to the Polar Bear and down to the club and to the door to let Ken back in. Good times!

― marianna lcl (marianna lcl), Saturday, 26 March 2005 18:16 (twenty years ago)

I pretty much have no memory of what happened after that point though. Goddam £5 bottles of wine.

― marianna lcl (marianna lcl), Saturday, 26 March 2005 18:17 (twenty years ago)

i don't even remember how i ended up in that place!!

― ken c (ken c), Saturday, 26 March 2005 18:25 (twenty years ago)

LEMON CURD DONUT?!?!?

Now why couldn't I have that administered to me during The Spy's dental inspection?

― kate at suzy's (suzy), Saturday, 26 March 2005 20:44 (twenty years ago)

That first photo of me is probably the prettiest I have ever looked. Thank you very much. I do so wish I could work out how I made my sternum glow fuchsia, though. I imagine that could come in handy one day.

― William Bloody Swygart (mrswygart), Saturday, 26 March 2005 20:53 (twenty years ago)

those are the least hott photos (of me) ever

― Sven Bastard (blueski), Sunday, 27 March 2005 00:17 (twenty years ago)

WBS = Brian Molko (in a good way)

― Andrew Farrell (afarrell), Sunday, 27 March 2005 15:58 (twenty years ago)

WBS has the same glasses as me.

The idea of £5 bottles of wine rather than £5 pints of Guinness has strengthened my resolve to make a real trip to London for the first time in about four years.

― ailsa (ailsa), Sunday, 27 March 2005 16:04 (twenty years ago)

I do so wish I could work out how I made my sternum glow

Stevem probably licked it.

― roxymuzak (roxymuzak), Sunday, 27 March 2005 16:05 (twenty years ago)

And those are nice pics of you, Swygart!

― roxymuzak (roxymuzak), Sunday, 27 March 2005 16:05 (twenty years ago)

I carried both Abby and Swygart to the dancefloor at different points. Abby is notably lighter than Swygart.

Mutya had her baby too! Now I just have to arrange the paternity trial of the century...

― Deerninja B4rim4, Plus-Tech Whizz Kid (Barima), Sunday, 27 March 2005 16:12 (twenty years ago)

my friend T really enjoyed it (and got home safely)

she sez hi to everyone

― mark s (mark s), Sunday, 27 March 2005 20:11 (twenty years ago)

two weeks pass...

i've finally posted my pictures from that night...

go here to see them: http://tinyurl.com/49rf8

― colette (a2lette), Tuesday, 12 April 2005 15:03 (twenty years ago)

hilarious

― $V£N! (blueski), Tuesday, 12 April 2005 15:13 (twenty years ago)

That one of me is TERRIFYING. I look like I've escaped from some early 90s film on the dangers of raving.

― RickyT (RickyT), Tuesday, 12 April 2005 15:25 (twenty years ago)

Plz have Poptimism sometime between June 20 and July 2 kthxbye.

― roxymuzak (roxymuzak), Tuesday, 12 April 2005 15:28 (twenty years ago)

camera flash in dim club is VERY BAD THING

― $V£N! (blueski), Tuesday, 12 April 2005 15:29 (twenty years ago)

roxy i don't know how likely that is sadly because the FT mob will be at Glastonbury :(

― $V£N! (blueski), Tuesday, 12 April 2005 15:30 (twenty years ago)

til july?!

― roxymuzak (roxymuzak), Tuesday, 12 April 2005 15:33 (twenty years ago)

Sorry roxy - next 3 dates are 5th May, 9th June and 7th July.

― Tom (Groke), Tuesday, 12 April 2005 15:37 (twenty years ago)

Tom did you get e-mail re fax? got time?

― $V£N! (blueski), Tuesday, 12 April 2005 15:38 (twenty years ago)

Aw, boo. I'm going to have to figure a way to stay a week later for Poptimism and Ned.

― roxymuzak (roxymuzak), Tuesday, 12 April 2005 15:39 (twenty years ago)

someone should change her flight schedules to stay for longer!

― ken c (ken c), Tuesday, 12 April 2005 15:40 (twenty years ago)

haha xpost!

― ken c (ken c), Tuesday, 12 April 2005 15:40 (twenty years ago)

We could have her kidnapped.

― Alix with an i? (alix), Tuesday, 12 April 2005 15:40 (twenty years ago)

let's talk, alix.

― ken c (ken c), Tuesday, 12 April 2005 15:42 (twenty years ago)

If somehow I had enough money and a cooler boss.

Can we sell my boss?

― roxymuzak (roxymuzak), Tuesday, 12 April 2005 15:44 (twenty years ago)

Well, I saw an episode of CSI where there was a kidnapping, so I think we should use that as a starting point. My first move would be to go home and watch CSI tonight, for further tips.

― Alix with an i? (alix), Tuesday, 12 April 2005 15:45 (twenty years ago)

Steve - when does the handover have to happen? I can fax them from Seattle if I have to I suppose!

― Tom (Groke), Tuesday, 12 April 2005 15:47 (twenty years ago)

When is Ned coming? Will there be a trig bro this year?

― jel -- (jel), Tuesday, 12 April 2005 15:48 (twenty years ago)

If somehow I had enough money and a cooler boss.
Can we sell my boss?

you may have to fix her first before selling her on ebay.

― ken c (ken c), Tuesday, 12 April 2005 15:49 (twenty years ago)

thirteen years pass...

2005! Did ILX invent the word “poptimism”?

― Mr. Snrub, Monday, 17 September 2018 11:19 (six years ago)

De Subjectivisten once again blazed the trail.

Qua Pet Shop Boys vind ik vooral Behaviour en dat tussenplaatje met "Domino Dancing" erg goed. Juist "It's a Sin" is het nummer dat ik echt niet meer terug kan horen (die bloedserieusheid! Afrekenen met zijn katholieke opvoeding, hou toch op).
En Martijn Grooten noemt dingen als K3 en "Asereje". Zoals ik al zei: als hit-pop 'fout' is kan ik nog wel even doorgaan. Maar daar zijn we in deze tijd van poptimism en zo toch al lang overheen? [zei hij, terwijl "I promised myself" van A*Teens door de speakers kwam].

― Vasquesz, Tuesday, 27 April 2004 07:07 (fourteen years ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

― nashwan, Monday, 17 September 2018 11:22 (six years ago)

Of course we did. Will be back here when you guys find out Subs also invented 'Vet geluid'.

― lbi's life of limitless european glamour (Le Bateau Ivre), Monday, 17 September 2018 11:25 (six years ago)

ILX was def the first place to realise that the appropriate venue for debate of poptimism was ~~in the streets~~ in the basement of what has since become Ku Bar.

― Andrew Farrell, Monday, 17 September 2018 11:51 (six years ago)

As the thread that launched a thousand tepid thinkpieces this is all quite the time capsule for a lot of reasons.

― Matt DC, Monday, 17 September 2018 17:40 (six years ago)

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