Michael Bay to direct "Transformers" movie?

interesting combination of phrases here...

All of you now may point and laugh at me for remmbering that.

i did a fantasy casting for this ages ago - Angelina Jolie as Josie Beller and Burt Reynolds as GB Blackrock was as far as i got tho.

we have the technology, i'm sure. the gov't is just hiding it. or saving it.

1st leaked photo...
http://www.pluh.com/images/picofdaystuff/Optimus%20Prime!.jpg

-- Suedey (mincingspoo...), April 8th, 2005.

they should get Tarantino!

Dancing Transformer Citroen Ad (not guerilla marketing)

http://www.nbj.co.jp/newline/images/video/rj/2.jpg

(not really, it's Robot Jox)

(p.s. "Bad Boys II" was his best movie - dude is getting better 'n' better [still the fucking azazel of movies right now but better at it])

[/ bay-style culture-baiting]

I hope Megatron comes up with some really ropey plans, and that Starscream messes up.

but dude, the shanty town was full of DRUGS! so it was okay to blow it up!

-- $V£N! (stevem7...) (webmail), April 8th, 2005 11:54 AM. (blueski) (later) (link)

http://nf.wh3rd.net/files/clerkstransform.gif

Therefore, no need to explain Megatron...as he'll trnasform into gigantic space cannon or spaceship or something like that.

(what does a director do anyway?)

http://www.vegalleries.com/misccels/turbo.gif

Is Amateurist joking?

Date of birth (location)
6 May 1915
Kenosha, Wisconsin, USA

Date of death (details)
10 October 1985
Hollywood, California, USA. (heart attack)

Sometimes Credited As:
O.W. Jeeves
G.O. Spelvin

Actor - filmography

Someone to Love (1987) .... Danny's Friend
The Transformers: The Movie (1986) (voice) .... Unicron
... aka Matrix Forever (Japan)
... aka The Transformers
... aka Transformers the Movie: Mokushiroku Matrix yo eien ni (Japan: video title)
... aka Transformers: Matrix yo eien ni (Japan)
The Enchanted Journey (1984) (voice) .... Pippo
Hot Money (1983) .... Sheriff Paisley
... aka Getting Centred
... aka Going for Broke
... aka Never Trust an Honest Thief
... aka The Great Madison County Robbery
... aka Zen Business
Where Is Parsifal? (1983) .... Klingsor
Butterfly (1982) .... Judge Rauch
Slapstick (Of Another Kind) (1982) (voice) .... Father of the Aliens
... aka Slapstick
History of the World: Part I (1981) (voice) .... Narrator
... aka Mel Brooks' History of the World: Part 1 (USA: complete title)
"Tales of the Klondike" (1981) (mini) TV Series (voice) .... Narrator
... aka Jack London's Klondike Tales
... aka Jack London's Tales of the Klondike (Canada: English title: complete title)
"Shogun" (1980/II) (mini) TV Series (voice) .... Narrator (original version)
... aka James Clavell's Shogun
Shogun (1980/I) (TV) (voice) .... Narrator
... aka James Clavell's Shogun (USA: complete title)
Tajna Nikole Tesle (1980) .... J.P. Morgan
... aka Tesla
... aka The Secret Life of Nikola Tesla
... aka The Secret of Nikola Tesla
The Greenstone (1980) (voice) .... Narrator

The Double McGuffin (1979) (voice) .... Narrator
The Muppet Movie (1979) .... Lew Lord (Special Guest Star)
A Woman Called Moses (1978) (TV) (voice) .... Narrator
Grande attacco, Il (1978) (voice) .... Narrator
... aka Battle Force
... aka Große Offensive, Die (West Germany)
... aka The Battle of the Mareth Line
... aka The Biggest Battle (USA)
... aka The Great Battle
... aka The Greatest Battle
It Happened One Christmas (1977) (TV) .... Henry F. Potter
Hot Tomorrows (1977) (voice) .... Parklawn Mortuary
Rime of the Ancient Mariner (1977) (voice) .... Narrator
Some Call It Greed (1977) (voice) .... Narrator
Voyage of the Damned (1976) .... Estedes
Rikki-Tikki-Tavi (1975/II) (TV) (voice) .... Narrator
And Then There Were None (1974) (voice) .... Voice of Tape
... aka ...e poi non ne rimase nessuno (Italy)
... aka Diez negritos (Spain)
... aka Dix petits nègres (France)
... aka Ten Little Indians (USA)
... aka Unbekannter rechnet ab, Ein (West Germany)
... aka Zehn kleine Negerlein (West Germany)
Necromancy (1972) .... Mr. Cato
... aka A Life for a Life
... aka Rosemary's Disciples (USA: video title)
... aka The Toy Factory
... aka The Witching (USA: reissue title)
The Man Who Came to Dinner (1972) (TV) .... Sheridan Whiteside
Treasure Island (1972) .... Long John Silver
... aka Île au trésor, L' (France)
... aka Isla del tesoro, La (Spain)
... aka Isola del tesoro, L' (Italy)
... aka Schatzinsel, Die (West Germany)
Get to Know Your Rabbit (1972) .... Mr. Delasandro
Décade prodigieuse, La (1971) .... Theo Van Horn
... aka Dieci incredibili giorni (Italy)
... aka Ten Days Wonder (USA)
A Safe Place (1971) .... Magician
London (1971) .... Various Characters
Malpertuis (1971) .... Cassavius
... aka Malpertuis: Histoire d'une maison maudite (Belgium: French title)
... aka Malpertuis: The Legend of Doom House
... aka The Legend of Doom House (USA)
Waterloo (1970/I) .... King Louis XVIII
Catch-22 (1970) .... Brig. Gen. Dreedle
Start the Revolution Without Me (1970) (voice) .... Narrator
... aka Two Times Two
The Kremlin Letter (1970) .... Bresnavitch, Head of Soviet Politburo/Grodin's Father-in-Law
The Deep (1970) .... Russ Brewer
Is It Always Right to Be Right? (1970) (voice) .... Narrator
Upon This Rock (1970) (TV) .... Michelangelo
... aka Return to Lochaver

Una su 13 (1969) .... Markan
... aka 12 + 1
... aka Douze et un (France)
... aka The 13 Chairs
... aka The Twelve Chairs
... aka Twelve Plus One (UK)
The Southern Star (1969) .... Plankett
... aka Étoile du sud, L' (France)
Kampf um Rom II - Der Verrat (1969) .... Justinian
... aka Guerra per Roma - seconda parte, La
... aka Lupta pentru Roma II
Bitka na Neretvi (1969) .... Chetnik senator
... aka Battaglia della Neretva, La (Italy)
... aka Battle of the River Neretva (Australia: video title)
... aka Schlacht an der Neretva, Die (West Germany)
... aka The Battle of Neretva (USA)
... aka The Battle of the River Neretva (USA)
The Merchant of Venice (1969) (TV) .... Shylock
Kampf um Rom I (1968) .... Emperor Justinian
... aka Guerra per Roma - prima parte, La (Italy)
... aka Lupta pentru Roma I (Romania)
... aka Struggle for Rome
... aka The Fight for Rome
... aka The Last Roman (USA)
House of Cards (1968) .... Leschenhaut
The Immortal Story (1968) .... Mr. Charles Clay
... aka Une histoire immortelle (France)
Tepepa (1968) .... Colonel Cascorro
... aka Blood and Guns (USA: video title)
... aka Long Live the Revolution (USA)
... aka Tepepa... Viva la revolución (Spain)
I'll Never Forget What's'isname (1967) .... Jonathan Lute
... aka I'll Never Forget What's 'Isname (USA: video box title)
Oedipus the King (1967) .... Tiresias
The Sailor from Gibraltar (1967) .... Louis de Mozambique
Casino Royale (1967) .... Le Chiffre
... aka Charles K. Feldman's Casino Royale
A Man for All Seasons (1966) .... Cardinal Wolsey
Paris brûle-t-il? (1966) .... Consul Raoul Nordling
... aka Is Paris Burning? (USA)
Campanadas a medianoche (1965) .... Falstaff
... aka Campanades a mitjanit (Spain: Catalan title)
... aka Chimes at Midnight (UK)
... aka Falstaff (Switzerland: German title)
Fabuleuse aventure de Marco Polo, La (1965) .... Akerman, Marco's Tutor
... aka Marco the Magnificent (UK) (USA)
... aka Marko Polo (Yugoslavia: Serbian title)
... aka Meravigliose avventure di Marco Polo, Le (Italy)
... aka Scacchiere di Dio, Lo (Italy)
The V.I.P.s (1963) .... Max Buda
... aka International Hotel
Ro.Go.Pa.G. (1963) .... The 'Director' (segment "La ricotta")
... aka Laviamoci il cervello (Italy: alternative title)
... aka Let's Have a Brainwash
... aka Rogopag (France)
Procès, Le (1962) .... Hastler (The Advocate)
... aka Processo, Il (Italy)
... aka Prozess, Der (West Germany)
... aka The Trial (USA)
La Fayette (1962) .... Benjamin Franklin
... aka Lafayette (USA)
... aka Lafayette, una spada per due bandiere (Italy)
Tartari, I (1961) .... Burundai
... aka The Tartars
King of Kings (1961) (voice) (uncredited) .... Narrator
Austerlitz (1960) .... Robert Fulton
... aka Battaglia di Austerlitz, La (Italy)
... aka Napoleone ad Austerlitz (Italy)
... aka The Battle of Austerlitz (USA)
Crack in the Mirror (1960) .... Hagolin/Lamerciere
David e Golia (1960) .... King Saul
... aka David and Goliath (USA)

Ferry to Hong Kong (1959) .... Captain Hart
Compulsion (1959) .... Jonathan Wilk
High Journey (1959) (voice) .... Narrator
The Roots of Heaven (1958) .... Cy Sedgewick
The Fountain of Youth (1958) (TV) .... Host/narrator
The Vikings (1958) (voice) (uncredited) .... Narrator
Touch of Evil (1958) .... Police Captain Hank Quinlan
The Long, Hot Summer (1958) .... Will Varner
Man in the Shadow (1957/I) .... Virgil Renchler
... aka Pay the Devil (UK)
... aka Seeds of Wrath
The Incredible Shrinking Man (1957) (uncredited) .... Off-Screen Narrator of Trailer
Moby Dick (1956) .... Father Mapple
... aka Herman Melville's Moby Dick (USA: complete title)
Napoléon (1955) .... Sir Hudson Lowe
... aka Napoleone (Italy)
... aka Napoleone Bonaparte (Italy)
Three Cases of Murder (1955) .... Lord Mountdrago ("Lord Mountdrago" segment)
Moby Dick Rehearsed (1955) (TV) .... An Actor Manager/Father Mapple/Ahab
Mr. Arkadin (1955) .... Gregory Arkadin
... aka Confidential Report (UK)
... aka Dossier secret (France)
... aka Mister Arkadin (Spain)
... aka Monsieur Arkadin - Dossier secret (France)
Si Versailles m'était conté (1954) .... Benjamin Franklin/Narrator, dubbed version
... aka Affairs in Versailles (USA: reissue title)
... aka Fabulous Versailles
... aka Royal Affairs in Versailles (USA)
... aka Versailles (Italy)
King Lear (1953) (TV) .... Lear
Trouble in the Glen (1953) .... Sanin Cejador y Mengues
Uomo, la bestia e la virtù, L' (1953) .... Captain Perella, the Beast
... aka Man Beast and Virtue
Trent's Last Case (1952) .... Sigsbee Manderson
Petit monde de Don Camillo, Le (1952) (voice) .... Narrator in American version
... aka Don Camillo
... aka Piccolo mondo di Don Camillo, Il (Italy)
... aka The Little World of Don Camillo (USA)
The Tragedy of Othello: The Moor of Venice (1952) .... Othello
... aka Othello (France) (USA)
The Black Rose (1950) .... Bayan

Prince of Foxes (1949) .... Cesare Borgia
Black Magic (1949) .... Charlatan Cagliostro
... aka Cagliostro (Italy)
... aka Spadaccini della serenissima, Gli (Italy: alternative title)
The Third Man (1949) .... Harry Lime
... aka The 3rd Man (USA: poster title)
Macbeth (1948) .... Macbeth
The Lady from Shanghai (1947) .... Michael O'Hara
Duel in the Sun (1946) (voice) (uncredited) .... Narrator
The Stranger (1946) .... Franz Kindler aka Professor Charles Rankin
Tomorrow Is Forever (1946) .... John Andrew MacDonald/Erik Kessler
Jane Eyre (1944) .... Edward Rochester
Journey Into Fear (1943) .... Colonel Haki
The Magnificent Ambersons (1942) (voice) .... Narrator
Citizen Kane (1941) .... Charles Foster Kane
Swiss Family Robinson (1940) (voice) (uncredited) .... Narration

Too Much Johnson (1938) .... Keystone Kop
The Hearts of Age (1934) .... Death

Date of birth (location)
6 May 1915
Kenosha, Wisconsin, USA

Date of death (details)
10 October 1985
Hollywood, California, USA. (heart attack)

Jesus is God. Jesus can raise the dead

Materials Needed: Promised Land mat
Christ figure
blocks,
2 Fisher Price or similar type woman figures
4 or 5 Fisher Price or similar type men figures
rocks enough to make a tomb for Lazarus
scrap of white cloth, tissue or napkin, etc to make grave clothes

Game: People can/Jesus can - A take off on Simon says Have the kids line up at one end of the room
Tell the kids that every time you make a true statement they can take 2 steps forward.
Every time you make a false statement they should stand still and not move.
If they move when you said something false they have to take 2 steps backward.
The object of the game is to make it to a designated place on the other side of the room.
Give them a series of true and false statements such as: Jesus made people with wings so they can fly (false)
People can make dead people alive (false)
Jesus can heal the sick
People can build airplanes
People can make birds (false)
etc.

Telling the Story: Our game was about things that people can do and things that Jesus can do.
And it was about things that Jesus can do but people can't do.
Have any of you ever had a pet die? Let kids answer

How did you feel when you lost your pet? Let kids answer

Was there anything you could do to make your pet alive again?
Today we're learning that Jesus is God. Jesus can raise the dead.

It was called Michael Jackson's Moonwalker.

http://filmforce.ign.com/transformers/articles/632/632705p1.html

Her name is "Arcee", not "R.C.".

Your pal,

Waspinator

Set to come out on July 4 2007: http://www.hasbro.com/transformers/default.cfm?page=news&newsid=1034E2F7-D56F-E112-4871ECCC2E54B294

When I hear right wing nutcases mouth off about how Hollywood politicizes everything, I usually roll my eyes, but then I read this...

Instead of a volkswagon Beetle Bumblebee has been made into a fucking CAMARO! A CAMARO FOR CHRISSAKES!

http://www.aintitcool.com/images2006/tf7.jpg

apparently megatron is a jet instead of a gun

so basically he's starscream

http://img.engadget.com/common/images/3060000000052364.JPG?0.5442795202025211

http://www.pluh.com/images/picofdaystuff/Optimus%20Prime!.jpg

(isn't the countdown there off by, oh, a year? "26 days to go!")

http://www.transformersmovie.com/

more excited than i should be.

Stevem give in to the excitement. Feel it!

it was most likely quickly filmed somwhere in the mojave desert to stand in for mars. since it's a just a teaser it doesn't worry me as much as the name "michael bay" attached to it.

i do! (xpost)

those Citroen car ads certainly convince/re-assure that at least they will LOOK really good. problem is whether Bay thinks this will be enough. this can be as good as X-Men if they can tap into the similar humanity issues re relationship with machines, finely balanced with action.

the "real" teaser

including stints on the Smothers Brothers and Sonny & Cher variety shows

Pidge is realizing that he's in the other bullet!

http://www.dtheatre.com/story_images/OP.Sneak.jpg

in fact, i can think of other examples where that tag might come in handy...

but where is that haughty queen ULTRAMAGS and his hilarious shoulder pads?

if they have any kind of RODIMUS action, i demand Judd Nelson though. i surely hope there is none, though - i can't watch Optimus die again, i've shed too many tears over that motherfucker in my lifetime.

lol @ ultramagnus and his selfish darkest hour judgement (+ shoulderpads + strange aunt sally behaviour, obv)

http://img56.imageshack.us/img56/2995/onesu6.jpg http://img477.imageshack.us/img477/5282/fourbb3.jpg

xpost

http://subjunctive.net/photoblog/2005/star-wars-transformers.jpg

http://www.forbiddenplanet.co.uk/images/C/C9502.jpg

it's like some product dev guys at Hasbro just got high one day and realized, "hey, we own Kenner now, too, right?"

altho, i do approve of the newer Omega Supreme as SDF/Yamoto:

http://ffmedia.ign.com/filmforce/image/50-TRANSFORMERS_ENERGON_OMEGA_SUPREME_sm.jpg

also, perhaps this 7 year old needs a sturdier toy. Go for Legos.

Altho, the original optimus prime had those spring-loaded fists that would get lost easily

I've got a horrible feeling that this film is gonna look great, but despite that. be a big pile of rubbishness. Mind you, so was the animated film. (ducks)

xpost

director = teh suck

first two guys = wrote MI:III, some Alias & Hercules eps, The Island, and the Zorro sequel

The third guy...wrote Catwoman. And showed up with Halle Berry to accept his Razzie awards for it. Also wrote "The Core."

Oh wait...

Here's how I see it: Michael Bay movies have great action sequences. They also totally lay on the shlock. I personally would probably HATE a "smart", "edgy" Verhoeven/etc directed Transformers movie. He will undoubtedly deliver on these things, which are what I have loved Transformers for since the very beginning: robot vs robot fights, vehicle vs. vehicle fights, robot vs. vehicle fights, chase scenes like woah, Megatron laughing at those "Autobot fools", and maybe a little over-the-top shlock if/when Optimus Prime dies again.

I think Michael Bay was born to direct a Transformers movie; it seems like it plays to every single one of his strengths (ie, silly premise, gonzo action scenes, minimal character development).

xpost NEVER

xpost ARCEE BOOBS

Zack Carey: Are you afraid? Don't be.
Nomi Malone: I'm not. I liked it when you came. I liked you eyes.

Nomi Malone: It's not fair!
Zack Carey: It's not about fair. It's about power.

please, don't leave such openings for a Rodimus Prime joke

I was gonna say, since when have I ever said I didn't like "The Island"? Ans: NEVER.

Not the Rocklords. The Rocklords are what caused the Gobots to go bust but I could get behind the idea of a Gobots origins movie. The whole concept of a Gobots movie might be kind of tricky since some of the main voice actors have passed away. In particular Bernard Erdhart who voiced Cy-Kill.

problems with this movie:
1)it is not based on the animated film already in existence.
2)no sign so far of dinobots, destructacon, or that dude with that sociopath soundwave that made earthquakes.
3) the old animated film shows every sign of being edgier than this version!
4) flames? wtf.
5) i promise the movie will feel the need to "explain" how transformers came into existence rather than taking talking alien robots who transform into human cars and planes as a given, which will just be stupid.

1. The Touch - Stan Bush
2. Instruments Of Destruction - N.R.G.
3. Death Of Optimus Prime - Vince DiCola
4. Dare - Stan Bush
5. Nothin's Gonna Stand In Our Way - Spectre General
6. The Transformers (Theme) - Lion
7. Escape - Vince DiCola
8. Hunger - Spectre General
9. Autobot/Decepticon Battle - Vince DiCola
10. Dare To Be Stupid - 'Weird Al' Yankovic

still that movie contains many things this movie will certainly lack. including shark transformers.

Re: Ryan's #5...supposedly we will see CYBERTRON, which I think makes it OKAY

I beg your pardon, I meant "against the grain in general in terms of sanity." But you're right in that I should have known. ;-)

Hey, would Unicorn beat the death star?

i remember when i lived in in Germany (i went to kindergarten on the US military base my dad was stationed at) one of the kids showing off his new Rodimus Prime toy. we were envious!

oh please. transformer origin stories are even more ridiculous and less cohesive than Superboy Prime bonking the entire DC universe into reboot. vector sigma! unicron! the quintessons! primus! the matrix! blah blah blah self-contradicting nonsense! dear film, plz to ignore all of that. tks.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/b/bb/Quintesson.jpg

that would pretty much garantee that I would go see it

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eN9HCg9uBTU

"Dark Awakening"

http://transfans.net/media/cartoons/transformers/season3/dark_3.jpg

other random fun:

In the episode Five Faces of Darkness (Part 1), the character Abdul Fakkadi was introduced as the "Supreme Military Dictator, King of Kings, and President For Life of the Socialist Democratic Federated Republic of Carbombya." This was an obvious play on tensions between the United States and Libya. Fakkadi's name is a near anagram of Libyan President Muammar al-Qaddafi's name. Reportedly, voice actor Casey Kasem, who voiced the character Cliffjumper and the Autobots' computer Teletraan I and who is of Lebanese descent, objected to the parody, and quit the show when it was not removed from the episode. Cliffjumper, despite having survived the movie, was phased out as of that episode, and Teletraan I was destroyed with the Ark in the episode Five Faces of Darkness (Part 5).

http://www.worldpress.org/images/qaddafi.jpg

As all good creation stories should be.

I mean, this is TRANSFORMING LIVING ROBOTS here -- how much reality can you ask for? Apparently Bay is demanding the robots are true to physics. This is why Megatron can't be a gun, and Prime can't have a disappearing trailer. EH? Reality has v. little place in a world of TRANSFORMING LIVING ROBOTS.

How much is going to be lost to this lunacy? No Soundwave, for a start, which means no Rumble, Ravage or Lazerbeak. Jesus. Lazerbeak was cool.

There are two teaser posters out now too.

http://transfans.net/media/cartoons/transformers/movie/37.jpg

oh genderized she-bot with princess leia head, save us all! you can't lollygag around like your whorish sister all the time. Also, why is your gun pink?

(these all come from here, btw)

no soundwave, really no credibility

YOU GOT THE POWER!

seriously, wtf? Having a transformers movie with no "Ravage, Laserbeak: Transform" is like Snakes on a Plane without THE LINE.

but when you're doing a live action version you're effectively surrendering to constraints of actual physics to a pretty big extent.

plus, Megatron and Soundwave transforming into such tiny objects was always COMPLETELY STUPID anyway and i'm glad they're avoiding it. obv. the best thing would be to have Soundwave transform into a 30ft iPod.

Soundwave will have to turn into a HiFi shop. RAVAGE. EJECT EJECT-with-a-funny-Euro-plug-attached EJJJEEECT.

http://us.movies1.yimg.com/movies.yahoo.com/images/hv/photo/movie_pix/paramount_pictures/the_transformers__the_movie/judd_nelson/tf3.jpg

I have a feeling they're holding the Dinobots over for the sequel that will never be made, although it would be k-awesome just to unleash them for the final fight rather than actually try and give them a plot. Because said plot always involved Dinobots strop off - Optimus Prime waves fist - Ratchet or Prowl goes 'we're better off without them' - Grimlock ends up knocking Megatron into a volcano.

You do know there'll only be like 10-15 Transformers actually in this don't you? Inevitably including fucking Bumblebee. Although if there is no Starscream they've frankly wasted the opportunity.

We documented everything that took place. Here is the full rundown...

Chat Begins:

Teaser Trailer Shown First

Character Names:

Autobots:
Optimus Prime - Classic Prime type character. True hero of the Autobots.
Bumblebee - Underdog type character. The scout. Smallest of the gang. (Spike mentioned)
Jazz - Rock n' roll style character.
Ratchet - New form. Emergency vehicle. Medical officer/Science officer. Repairs Transformers injured in battle.
Ironhide - Optimus' oldest friend. Gritty

Decepticons:
Megatron - Survival of fittest. Less idealistic version of humanity.
Starscream - 2-faced. Secretly plotting to overthrow Megatron. Doesn't neccassarily want Megatron's duties, but wants to be leader.
Brawl - Pissed off Decepticon. Heavy lifter. One of the first ones not from G1. More experemental with Decepticons. More G1 styled characters to come with sequals.
Bonecrusher - Closest to constructicon. Hates all other Decepticons except for Megatron.
Barricade - Hunter type. Cop car, likes to get to things first.
Skorponok - closest to a beast era type of character.
Frenzy - Character who evolved from Soundwave. Had contradictions to the original Soundwave, so they changed him to Frenzy. Smaller form. Stealth spy.
Blackout - Takes out ability to fight back. Likes to pulse blast electronics. First tier attacker. Transport, one of the biggest decepticons in the movie.

Question and Answer Session:

What did you know about TF's before?
They were fans from the begining. Wanted to do movie right. Wanted to make sure the things they loved from G1 made it into movie, such as Prime. Both big G1 cartoon fans.

What's the Transformers to human ration in terms of screen time?
Script floating around is not finished script. More Transformers action than what most fans expected. Very close to 50/50 in terms of screen time.

Why is Bumblebee a Camaro?
Needed for design changes. Character is more important than the "cloths". Bublebee will be very close to his original character. Close relationship with Spike. No cheating in the transformation. No size shifiting. What you see is what the vehicle is.

From a female - How is this movie going to open the eyes of fans who never watched Transformers?
You won't need to know anything about TF's to enjoy the movie. Fans will notice alot more and will appeal to them a bit more. Movie is massive. Approaching the film how Spielberg approached Jurrasic Park. Girls will like the "hot guys". There are cool, smart women in the film. Film for everyone.

Will Megatron insult at leat once?
Yes...multiple times. The relationship between the two will be much like G1.

Why are there so few Autobots compared to Decepticons?
Wanted Autobots to be outnumbered and at a major disadvantage. Makes it have very intense action scenes. Decepticons firepower far outweighs the Autobots. You will see and feel the sense and scope ofthe Cybertronian war.

How closely has Hasbro been involved in the character design process?
Very closely. Sat with the design team. Looked through all Transformers catalogs and talked extensively with the design team about what is important. Trying to overcome the perception of a "toy commercial". Tried to use the history to their advantage.

They talk about monitoring the boards to see reaction.

Who would win in a street fight Optimus or Megatron?
You will find out.

Why no Shockwave?
Too many characters, tried to choose important characters who could focus o nthe story. Door open for possible future appearance.

Laser blasts or bullets and missles?
In earth modes, they have earth style weapons. But Cybertronian technology (pulse blasts) come into play while in robot form.

Bumblee as a Camaro asked again.
Explained again at greater length.

Video Cuts out...Technical difficulties.

Fans will know first via TF movie.com.

How do you feel about Bay directing?
Great. They felt Bay was the right guy for the job. Was their first choice. When they pitched it to him, his eyes lit up. He wanted to really know about the story and characters. Bay trusted Orci and Kurtzman to keep the perspective of the fans. They feel Bay is keeping things great. Bay knows vehicles like no other director.

Can you tell us about any other voices?
Not yet. They called it a Work in progress right now.

That's all for now. They will be involved at Transformersmovie.com Message Board.

Contest coming soon:
Submit a line that Optimus Prime MUST say for the film. Winning entry will be recited by Cullen (Prime) for the movie.

Ah but does he know MECHANOIDS?

har har

http://static.flickr.com/76/223726884_68792bdb38_o.jpg

He doesn't turn into a gun either, just a "space jet":

http://static.flickr.com/91/223726883_ec0f540899.jpg?v=0

From here

Michael Bay: Dead To Me Since August 2006

Frenzy - Character who evolved from Soundwave. Had contradictions to the original Soundwave, so they changed him to Frenzy. Smaller form. Stealth spy.

probably going for "realism", at the expense of fun.

x-post if he was, then their dicision is doubly odd. they could win fanboy points just by putting Soundwave in the movie. even it's just him doing somersaults and cartwheels in the background or masturbating in the corner or something.

They look like rip-offs of EVA units to me.

/end dorkdom

p.s. i agree with you.

Shia LeBooaueioauf seems like a BRO.

metal machine music!

xpost - ok i think i might understand now. Animal crackers = pregnancy.

armegeddon!

pretty cool revealy advert - some bits not in that awesome trailer (in bumblebee 'talking') here

http://base58.com/ilx/primebreakd.jpg

another clip

I'm guessing that's Starscream, the fighter-jet havoc-wreaker. Motherfucker.

WHAO

haha wait what is ANJAC FASHION BLOGS? Subtle advertising.

BUILDINGS

The Hollywood full-building ad they have for the movie is wonderfully over the top. Is there something like that in New York?

I imagine

haha I use the BLDGS abbreviation like 1,000x a day at work and don't recognize it in big movie trailer. D'oh.

Some of the I'm assuming Decepticons are...confusing...in robot form.

optimus prime is pretty clearly fighting Blackout, the helicopter dude, in that clip, I dunno how everybody is getting it rong

it sorta looked like he was rocking rollerblades!

I'm still saying this film looks great but *will* be shit.

Saying that, I'm tremendously looking forward to it as it's been ages since I've watched an all out mindless action movie that I've enjoyed despite shitty plot and script.

300 was crap even for it's 'action' moments.

OK I was wrong it IS bonecrusher but seriously why do all the decepticons have to have big giant claws and who the hell has heard of the Buffalo Mineclearing Vehicle

i drive one to work everyday.

it sorta looked like he was rocking rollerblades!

he is using cars as skates, forgot to take passengers out lolz

I saw one trailer for this, and it seemed like a clip from Seinfeld:

"The car -- it's like it ... TRANSFORMED. Like some kind of ... TRANSFORMER. Yeah, that's right, that's what it was, it was a real TRANSFORMER."

Michael Bay to direct Seinfeld movie

Jerry gets a tip on a little-known eBay auction of a life-size posable Superman figurine, and finally replaces his Mac Classic with a laptop so he can bid on it -- but his bids are continually topped by mysterious competitor named "nnamuen."

Elaine is dating a man who suddenly claims to be a high-level anti-terrorism spy. When he meets the others, he's convinced that George is a former Israeli intelligence operative he worked with in the early 90s. George denies it, but the guy thinks he is maintaining deep cover and just winks knowingly.

Meanwhile, Kramer is obsessed with the food at a Ukrainian joint in Queens, only it's too far away, so he's flight-training with the place's owner, a former Soviet pilot, who claims he can hook Kramer up with a decommissioned MiG, allowing him to pop over to Queens in virtually no time at all. (Jerry: "Where are you planning to launch this thing, from the fire escape?" Kramer: "I'm buying a parking space.")

The spy shows up at George's place, turns out to be an actual spy, and drags George into an action-filled plot involving Indonesian terrorists who plan to release biological agents into the air over New York. It turns out that the biological agents are actually hidden inside the life-size Superman figurine; the mysterious other bidder is Neumann, who's been paid off to assist with its secret delivery through the US mail system; and they plan to release these agents using the decommissioned MiG Kramer currently has sitting on the top level of a parking garage, prompting hilarious arguments with the management.

Putty shoots some people, and there's a scene where Kramer pilots the plane above the West Side Highway, like the F16 in that new Die Hard. The Soup Nazi turns out to be an ACTUAL former Israeli intelligence officer, but his torture of a suspect for information is unsuccessful, so they lock the guy in a room with George's parents instead. Elaine and Jerry are insufficiently devoted to foiling terrorist plot, because: "Well, we could always move, right?"

In the end it turns out Jerry's current girlfriend, a "sideways talker," has already foiled the entire plot by having the contents of the Superman figure replaced with cereal, which everyone sits around at the end eating.

wau

funny but clearly you only appreciate the most superficial aspects of what Michael Bay is capable of. a single Mig is not nearly enough, I mean you've got the whole Elaine driving gag, where's the 20-minute car chase? We can punch this up.

also BB2, Island and Transformers all have extended action/set pieces in the middle of nowhere, I think this is important, perhaps they can start the film upstate somewhere

Uncle Leo with a flamethrower in Central Park

Nabisco, I know writing 400-word ILM posts is kinda what you do, but I really feel bad about you spending a half hour on a spec script for Mad TV just to illustrate someone's throwaway one-liner.

Also, you misspelled Puddy.

It was his own throwaway one-liner. That's different.

Dude, you think that took more than 5 minutes?

It would have taken a lesser mind 30. Not to name names.

well it was Tombot's one-liner that was kind of extrapolated from his own one-liner, I guess.

(xpost, well, there was a half hour lull before that post, i was just assuming!)

http://i132.photobucket.com/albums/q24/vafflez/4345094_m.gif

Should start a sitcom guest directors thread.

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Oh man, the tongue!

The theme leaked. I am afraid to play it.

I hope to god that's just the work of a few misguided individuals and not anything anybody would find suitable to use as the actualy theme song to the movie!

ha ha ha

AU-TO-BOTS ARE WAT-CHING O-VER YOU
REA-DY TO DIE FOR WHAT WE LOVE

SEEING THIS TOMORROW ZOMG

!!!!! report back immediately!

i never in my entire life figured i'd be excited by a micael bay movie

shit, my nerdy ass would be excited if this was directed by Kid N Play

Hallo. Daft Transformers (Daft Punk's Discovery mashed up with The Transformers Movie) can be found in parts here:

http://www.dailymotion.com/DaftTransformer/video/x2cac5_daft-transformers-digital-love

Love to hear what y'all think...

so...how was it?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MOE9SHlp7ng

jesus christ

*sigh*

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speaking of, is there a transformer of Jesus that turns into a cross?

if not, there should be.

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contains line "bros before hos"

is that said by one of the robots? because if so this is movie of the year

HAI YOU GUYS THIS MOVIE WAS AWESOME.

I would like to talk more about this but I'm stepping out in a bit. Later!

it's not really awesome...

...it's MEGA-AWESOME. (I have not seen it.)

no this movie kinda sucked

the action sequences were atrociously animated

HI ESPECIALLY WHEN THERE'S A LOT OF CRAZY CRAP GOING ON ONSCREEN YOU HAVE TO MAKE SURE THAT WE CAN FIGURE OUT WHAT THE HELL'S GOING ON WHEN TWO GIANT ROBOTS ARE GRAPPLING WITH EACH OTHER, OTHERWISE THERE'S VERY LITTLE CATHARSIS INVOLVED. PLUS YOU GET EYESTRAIN TRYING TO FIGURE OUT WHAT THE HELL'S HAPPENING

I KNOW IT'S PROBABLY CHEAPER THAT WAY, BAY

i did like the first half okay

I'm more excited about finally being able to see this.

"spoiler" i guess but yeah wtf @ the entire end section? the cube turns lots of random things into transformers, but then that sort of stops after a bit?

will smith and TLJ were a pretty good double-act tho.

Megatron never worried about fuckin' catharsis.

i wish it had kind of kept up the knowingness and tension of the first half. once the autobots show up and start earnestly spouting gibberish about that damn cube it all kinda falls apart.

p.s. unexamined nostalgia for things that weren't that good in retrospect is kinda lame, y'all

hard to say what convinces Optimus Prime of the humans' worthiness. there were bits where i thought bay was making it properly camp and silly, um but then all the military hardware and "iranians aren't smart enough to hack this" stuff was retarded.

i just had to write 1,100 words semi-trashing a transformers movie which is probably the most u_u thing i will have to do all year

p.s. unexamined nostalgia for things that weren't that good in retrospect is kinda lame, y'all

Hooray for no more Tarantino anticipation threads!

i'm surprised that you're excited about this, alfred.

About the movie? It looks like shit. The comic (I own every issue) and original movie were witty enough.

youtube comment on that Transformer fan video Scott posted:

"..I think my hymen just grew back..."

LOLOLOLOL!!!!!

i actually respect bay for 1) knowing nothing about transformers before he came on to the project (ffs he's a grown man) and 2) not giving a fuck about the fans. i don't see why hollywood should be held to ransom by toy fetishists.

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LOLOLOLOLOLOLOL

LOLOMG!!

*Dying*

oh shit

hahaha omg.

I loved this precisely because I went in expecting a Michael Bay movie. I don't give a shit about the plot because hey, Bay never does. And after Pirates/Spidey which were glorious messes but messes nonetheless, I was so glad to finally see a summer movie that doesn't feel the need to establish "character arcs" and really is nothing but pyrotechnics.

megan fox was effective in her role of "piece of ass #1"

if it delivers on the premise of "giant robots smashing shit up" i'll be happy. and if it sucks i won't be pissed at it for "raping my childhood" or some fanboy bullshit.

I saw it last night. Yeah, it's stacks up pretty well against the shitfests that were Pirates of the Caribbean, Spiderman, etc.

this was really entertaining. about as good as you could expect from the premise. i do kinda wish there had been more of the bad guys though.

Yeah, more of the big bad guys, less of that little gimp dowloading stereo thing.

TS: "(Transformers) offers plenty of fun, but not much more than meets the eye." vs "Merde that meets the eye." vs seppuku.

First half was great. Masturbation line might've gotten biggest reaction from the theatre though.

this was a great movie.

The title of this post is THIS FUCKING MOVIE.

This fucking movie! So great. I see why they wanted to open it on the 4th originally, it is a total bombs bursting in air inspirational. Also those robots look fucking cool.

There was one or two things I think were shout outs to tedious fanboys that I won't mention until later when nobody cares about being spoiled.

My only problem was that I didn't like Starscream having a deep voice, I mean wtf his name is starSCREAM.

addendum: Did you guys see the preview for the handheld camera JJ Abrams monster movie without a title? WTF!!!!!!! Looks cool.

seeing this in 90 minutes!!!

There was one or two things I think were shout outs to tedious fanboys that I won't mention until later when nobody cares about being spoiled.

only fanboys would have got these, presumably. i thought it sucked ass. what's so inspiring?

i guess my main query for fanboys is: were they called deceptacons before they went bad and betrayed the other robots on planet anthropomorphic robot?

it's almost uncanny, if not, that they turned out the way they did.

Hundreds of thousands of years pass, and the Robots, who had adopted the names Autobot & Decepticon for the Slave & Gladiator class, respectively, coexisted peacefully.

wow, somebody's productive.

question two: why always the same vehicles?

Yeah that's a good point. Bumblebee just decided to turn into the new Camaro when he wanted to, so why can't they all just up and change?

^^^v minor spoiler, sorry.

well, the bigger point there is, if they're from planet anthropomorphic robot, how would they be designed to have the ability to become a c. 2007 helicopter or truck or whatever, and only that? what are the odds. it only makes sense if they can become anything, as bumblebee does. but they don't take advantage of that. so to get to the hoover dam, they have to go not at the speed of an f16 but at the speed of a mack rig.

i mean sure, sure, you 'accept it as part of the premiss' or whatever

When the other autobots arrived on earth, in the movie, didn't they turn into pretty much the first vehicles they saw?

I might be wrong.

yeah that rings a bell. but they're called AUTObots right.

bumblebee, you are a wizard and a scholar, and a robot, and a car.

see you guys at the sequel.

good times.

this movie sounds great, can't wait to see it

it's a lot of fun.

CRIMINALS ARE HOTT

I think the people who are talking about how the movie sucked are way too jaded for their own good.

Also, both Bumblebee and Soundwave did the "pick something else to transfirm into" thing (remember the cell phone?).

I think my wife might have a thing for Shia TheBeef now.

also the main thing that struck me about the movie was how easy it was to tell the Autobots from the Decepticons in the actiopn sequences; I think the extended comedy sequence with the hunt for the glasses helped in that regard.

also roffle at "Sam's happy time"

I tried really hard to get over the fact that it's just a 2 hour-long General Motors commercial, but I honestly think it detracted from some of my enjoyment.

Bumblebee would've been cooler had he stayed a 70s Camaro instead of that ugly new one.

My wife also has a thing for the new Camaro.

this was actually ok! Also, John Turturro as Sector 7 spook was pretty good.

i think the people who are dissing this prefer good fight sequences

i mean c'mon dan that's about on the level of "people who hate on this band are just jealous!"

the fight sequences were fine-ish, it was the stupid nonsense dragging on with the teenagers that basically sucked. i mean i'll cosign wholeheartedly on any movie that has john turturro and jon voight fighting robots with flame-throwers and shotguns, basically, but really could've done with a lot less of...well basically everything that wasn't what i just described actually.

also brian otm re: criminals.

"disgusting!" *ping*

^ best part of the whole movie right there!

Ok this guy

so I wonder if "TF fan" was pleased with the fruition of Bay's filmic vision.

yeah, the fight sequences kind of annoyed me with all the shakey tight shots that just turned into a blur of CGI. kind of reminded me of the exhausting dinosaur battles in Peter Jackson's King Kong.

strongo did you see that the actor who voiced Ironhide is named JESS HARNELL lol

I didn't thonk the fight sequences were difficult to follow at all.

Actually my biggest criticism of the movie is that I don't buy for a second that The Popular Hot Girl would happen to have an incarcerated father; kids aren't that nice!

my biggest criticism of the movie is that it's totally fucking weird for those two to be dry humping on top of bumblebee at the end.

i mean that counts as a threesome y/n

I wouldn't say the fight scenes were difficult to follow per se, just that they weren't very well choreographed. They kinda went too fast and didn't have any cool POW-BIFF-BOOM moments to get into. The parts in the beginning with the Decepticons just destroying humans by the boatload were much cooler than the later battles with Autobots. (xpost)

definite y. The guy next to me was all "ewww". And then like three other autobots looking on. No thanks guys.

xpost

ts: a dog watching you have sex vs. a cat watching you have sex vs. a Transformer watching you have sex

So, honestly, how does this compare with the original?

the '86 animated feature? no contest, it's completely campy and awesome, and has way more robots than humans.

and a scarier Megatron?

Megatron was never scary in the cartoon. The Decepticons were always a bunch of squabbling dumbasses.

lol yeah re: the other autobots watching, it really made it v creepy when optimus was giving his big voice over movie ending speech about how the autobots are all over society, hiding in plain sight, WATCHING YOU...gross you metal perverts!

GUYS WHY THE FUCK DID THEY NEED THE GLASSES SO BAD, THE CUBE WAS NOT EVEN IN THE ARCTIC CIRCLE ANY MORE

the cube itself was never in the arctic circle, iirc.

not that plot details really matter in this movie.

i am really spending a lot of time thinking about this abuse of bumblebee.

BUT THEY DID NOT KNOW THAT IT HAD BEEN MOVED.

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Ha ha - I guess I was the only one to blurt out "hells ya - threesome time!" dans le theater?

jess harnell is actually a famous cartoon voiceover actor. i'm pretty sure he was one of the animaniacs.

wait guys the cube was never in the arctic circle i thought, i mean didn't they make a big deal about how they built the hoover dam around the cube? christ i have no idea. CRIMINALS ARE HOT.

this movie should have really just been the decepticons killing people

Megatron was never scary in the cartoon. The Decepticons were always a bunch of squabbling dumbasses.

Dude, he was mega-scary in the '86 movie! Like the scene in which he slaughters all these classic Autobots on the shuttle, stands still to deliver a megalomaniacal speech, then blasts Ironhide after muttering, "Such heroic nonsense."

in fairness i doubt you'd find him as scary now that you are a grown-up so it's not an easy question to answer.

oh - i thought they'd moved it do a damn friendly location! still the glasses would told the deceptacreeps where it HAD been located at the very least, jeez!

ok the way i understood it was that megatron was looking for the cube but was in the wrong place because of (uh some kind of atmospheric/pull of the axis/gravitational reasoning here). he was found in the arctic circle, but that was NOT his destination.

also, when the kid said to john turturro something like, "well i'm sorry to have to retell you everything about what you think you know, but his name is MEGATRON", did anyone else think "lol hi jon williams" y/n

so anyway when explorer dude found megatron megatron somehow released a...laser hologram??? or something, because i guess he needed to check his coordinates and was all like wtf how did i shot such bad driving, and it etch-a-sketched the map to the hoover dam onto the dude's glasses. SOOOO megatron was then captured and refrozen and the only place the deceptacons kept the map was apparently megatron's copy so they needed either the glasses or megatron because, well, why keep back ups i guess.

GUYS IT'S PRETTY SIMPLE

Yeah, the more I think about this movie about 18 hours after seeing it, the more I hate it.

not so much why keep backups as why would megatron ever tell anybody his SECRET HOOVER DAM KNOWLEDGE I mean we all know starscream would just try to steal it from him.

what I never understand is why optimus prime has such a martyr complex, I mean if the cube could kill megatron just use the fuckin' cube to kill megatron. seriously waht was that even about, we needed more cybertronian exposition.

So, The Island filled me with hate for pretty much all things due to Michael Bay's inability to shoot an action sequence and horrible plot. Should I go see this?

you're not supposed to think about this sort of movie. it is like critiquing the crayon renderings of a 6 year old.

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haha Optimus's martyr act was the funniest part, though. he kept going "AND IF MY DEATH IS NECESSARY, THEN SO BE IT" at every opportunity, and then at the end was all "what? I don't have to die...::sigh::...OK, fine."

(xpost this was definitely way better than The Island, but that's not saying much)

yeah this is true too, i was wondering why he didn't just tell douchebag to stick the cube into megatron myself? fucking emo robots.

although - i did wonder the same thing as tombot abt Prime wanted the cube shoved into him and not megatron. maybe he didn't think human could pull it off?

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also - how could something supposedly as powerful as our cube be destroyed by one robots' chest?
goddamit now i'm thinking about it! grrr

someone please add the OPTIMUS PRIME??! banner to this thx in advance xoxo
http://images.morrissey-solo.com/gallery/albums/userpics/MorrisseyOnGrass.jpg

btw guys the island was awesome if only for the sequence in which american ewan mcgregor kept imitating scottish ewan mcgregor.

The Island was awesome, yes.

All of the ludicrous, incoherent things pointed out about this movie are just making me like it more in retrospect.

I was also rofflew at humping on Bumblebee while the others watched.

this movie was everything pearl harbor should have been

i just wanted to put that on the record

What movie would not be vastly improved by a flesh-on-robot-threesome, I ask you!

bambi

you have no imagination.

TOM OTM FOR ETERNITY

i mean that counts as a threesome y/n

Major Y - but note that Bumblebee was down: "I want to stay with the boy"

i don't care if he was down, i did not go into transformers expecting some jg ballard shit

i saw it coming a mile away. from the get-go bumble-bee was obv trying his best to get dude laid in his backseat.

yeah but i just thought of that as like being a bro, i mean the kid didn't know the car was a bro. after the kid knew he was a robot bro, that's just gross.

alt.transformers.creative.erotica//B/S

i don't care if he was down, i did not go into transformers expecting some jg ballard shit

I must now go see this and you are now my favorite ilxor for the day!

oh loosen up - like you've never fucked somebody while a robot idled in the corner.

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SPOILER WARNING SPOILER WARNING SPOILER WARNING

teh black guy doesn't make it...

I still like my dad's initial statement: "Transformers...a Lou Reed biopic???"

^^ Haha, yeah I noticed that too! (xp)

"Walk on the Wired Side"

The jaded cynic in me:
Ugh. They went from selling kids toys: action figures and lunchboxes to selling big kid toys: camaros, xbox 360s and SR-71 blackbirds.

The big kid in me:
THAT ROBOT IS SHOOTING ROCKETS IN SLO-MO AND THERES A HOT BABE AND SOMETHING IS 'SPLODING IN THE BACKGROUND OMG!

The Anthony Lane review of this in this week's New Yorker is hilarious.

this movie was everything pearl harbor should have been

While we're on the Bay wagon I thought it was funny when I heard Randall Wallace (writer of Pearl Harbor) talk about how badly Bay butchered his script for that film. When Wallace told Bay that the Hartnett and Beckinsale characters weren't supposed to be so amorous around each other following Ben Affleck's death Bay told Wallace that (to paraphrase) he didn't understand why he was into all this "Jane Austen stuff." Wallace placed the film's failure almost entirely on Michael Bay, and while you usually might roll your eyes when the screenwriter throws his hands up and denies all responsibility for his film the fact that it was Michael Bay that was working with his script almost worked as a total get out of jail free card.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v97/tundrahdesert/alvinchipmunks.jpg

WHY DOES THAT HAVE TO HAPPEN

also jason lee looks exactly like my boss on that poster

no no no no no no no

Oh good god.

(So who's going to be the guest MC on the remake? Place your bets. [MC Skat Kat where are you?])

okay that's it

tonight hollywood burns

children of the 80s, rise up and take back the night

why are the chipmunks so thugged out

based on that pic I'm pretty sure Theodore is Turtle from Entourage.

as Transformers showed, John Turturro and The Chipmunks would be a much better film.

w.
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better be a kool moe dee cameo

tho they are using the same voice actors who did the chipmunks/chipettes for the last 25 years.

ya waht will chippettes look like? :/

http://i76.photobucket.com/albums/j32/Karie_album/683c55ba.jpg

l-r
LL Cool J, Eminem and <X>?

i take it you havent watched a lot of porn

I'm not a porn specialist or anything (I think I've only ever seen one Ron Jeremy film), but that chick on the L is really a tranny, right?

I mean if the cube could kill megatron just use the fuckin' cube to kill megatron. seriously waht was that even about

didn't prime say something like "you left me no choice, brother" to megatron after megatron died? if they were brothers, maybe prime would rather kill himself than his own brother.

and unrelated to megatron/prime brodom: that little downloading decepticon was really annoying, and it sort of sounded like a killer tomato.

I hated that thing too. As I briefly mentioned upthread, he was in it more than the big decepticons. and obvs big decepticons>>>little stereo thingy.

The jaded cynic in me:
Ugh. They went from selling kids toys: action figures and lunchboxes to selling big kid toys: camaros, xbox 360s and SR-71 blackbirds.

The big kid in me:
THAT ROBOT IS SHOOTING ROCKETS IN SLO-MO AND THERES A HOT BABE AND SOMETHING IS 'SPLODING IN THE BACKGROUND OMG!

-- The Macallan 18 Year, Thursday, July 5, 2007 7:51 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Link

otm.

i liked it

Ebert comment: Everything comes down to an epic battle between the Transformers and the Decepticons, and that's when my attention began to wander.

I kind of agree with that. But I still really liked it.

based on that pic I'm pretty sure Theodore is Turtle from Entourage.

When I saw Alvin's smile I immediately saw:

http://img107.imageshack.us/img107/7640/alvinmn1.jpg

http://img511.imageshack.us/img511/80/aphexsl3.jpg

You'd think the little chipmunk was flashing us by that look on his face.

he kinda is. he doesn't have any pants on!

AAAAALLLLLVVVIINNN

Porky Pig Style

re. cube.

optimus prime puts cube in self, result = presumably all autobots and decepticons are dead, right? otherwise why do it?

megatron gets cube in the chest, result = only the decepticons die?

i know, i know, jane austen stuff.

erm, the point was simply to destroy the cube so it could never be used for teh evilz - destroying it takes out whomsoevereth shall get it stuck in his chest. no one else. if you can't follow this stuff, I wouldn't move on to Sense And Sensibility just yet...

right so this enormous cube that travelled through space and got chipped by asteroids and whatnot, and which has magical properties, can be magically made tiny and then will be destroyed by putting it in someone's chest...?

the problem with the whole cube nonsense is that they switched from the "energon cubes" from the 80s cartoon to the shitty "allspark" concept from the 90s Beast Wars series (for my money, the nadir of the whole Transformers franchise).

I'm still wondering where the allspark'd cellphone got its bullets from.

right so this enormous cube that travelled through space and got chipped by asteroids and whatnot, and which has magical properties, can be magically made tiny and then will be destroyed by putting it in someone's chest...?

correct, if that someone is a leaderbot with a little spark in its own chest. I didn't say it was cool. just consistent.

Two days removed from seeing it now and I think it's even dumber than I did yesterday. I keep thinking back to it and getting mad about how much it blows.

yeah it's dumb as the day is long, but I was expecting to hate it much, much more than I did... caveat being I never really gave a flying fuck about Transformers to begin with and the only Bay film I've ever seen in its entirety was that hulking p.o.s. Armageddon. My expectations were ridiculously low.

however dumb you think it was now, it's dumber than that.

BUT short of 150 minutes of Wild Kingdom-style documentary footage of big-ass robots fighting soldiers and each other, with matter-of-fact Marlon Perkins narration, this was about the best giant robot movie it could be. they actually managed to make these big robots that turn into cars NOT ENTIRELY SILLY FOR OVER TWO HOURS. and for that I salute them.

they actually managed to make these big robots that turn into cars NOT ENTIRELY SILLY

some things are beyond 'O RLY'. the *good* thing about this movie was it was camp and didn't take itself seriously.

I don't think this has been posted yet, but one of the scriptwriters found a pretty amusing review of the flick from Libertas:

...And after all the relativist junk we’ve been suffering through, it does mean something to watch the fight for freedom portrayed with valor, good and evil distinguished, and the dreaded-until-needed military industrial complex save the day.
Am I complimenting the film’s politics because I agree with them? Maybe. Regardless, the world view presented in Tranformers is more than just one that I happen agree with, it’s also new, refreshing, daring, and counter-culture — which counts for something in storytelling.

"counter culture"

hahahaha i can't think of a less "counter-culture" movie than this one

it is "daring" and "refreshing" to entertain fantasies of sentient cars protecting our "freedom"

For real fun, read the actual post & comments. I ain't going near it.

it is against culture, i think is what he means.

http://www.pranceatron.com/jem/cartthefan.jpg

How did Alvin and the Chipmunks get put into production before Jem?!?!?

hair budget too high for studios

...And after all the relativist junk we’ve been suffering through, it does mean something to watch the fight for freedom portrayed with valor, good and evil distinguished, and the dreaded-until-needed military industrial complex save the day.

SPARTAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA~!

srsly

i'd have liked this so much more if the whole movie had just been horny nerd shia labeouf tries to get laid with help of TRANSFORMING ROBOT CAR FRIENDS and none of the allspark/security breach/total destruction of planet bs

PC stunt casting: The best hackers in the world are those two? Show me one instance of either of these represented demographics anywhere near the top of this field. There’s a reason Larry Summers got his ass canned at Harvard: he dared hint at the truth.

googling for the exact re. "iranians r dumb" i found...

http://www.dcpersian.com/forum/showthread.php?p=267195

exact quote

this movie
- looks really really cool
- sucks

pretty much otm

it's pretty amazing that the premier action director in hollywood cant even direct a decent action scene...the guy cant even pull off an exciting car chase!!!

First time I've ever plugged my ears during a movie.

You are all 70-year-olds.

The thing is, I like this kind of movie (and in fact like almost any movie), but this one was actually really bad.

My coworker said it was pretty good, that's probably the kiss of death.

Good things about this movie:

Meghan Fox's stomach and eyes
Both Camaros
Heavy CGI action in broad daylight
A couple long shots of action

Bad things

where to begin? Pontiac Solstice? Tank with like 10 guns on it? TERRIBLE comedy timing during the glasses hunt? Hey let's take the most valuable object in the universe, something that giant robots will kill for, and take it into the middle of downtown Los "Mission City" Angeles? Incessant sound even more irritating than 'Requiem for a Dream'?

PC stunt casting: The best hackers in the world are those two? Show me one instance of either of these represented demographics anywhere near the top of this field.

actually to be honest I met more than my fair share of hot milfs and big ol' DC NE native nerdbags in my time with the spooks, so besides the OTT posh accent on the blonde, I considered this part of the film sort of OTM especially in the thank-god-not-another-seth-green-knockoff aspect, because I can definitely guarantee I've met 0% seth-green-knockoffs in the past seven years

"hey ronald can you help me reconstruct this real-time stream, I dunno the filetype yet for sure"
"yeah man just gimme a sec AW FUCK ARRINGTON GOT TRADED?!?!? FUCK!!! FUCK!!!"

^^^ this happens

My experience with gov't contractors suggests that interspersed with the above scenario is a lot of porn-surfing.

i hate to be a nerd about this, because the original show was still shit, as close as it is to my childhood heart, BUT: at least the show knew that humans are BORING and gave the robots semi-interesting personalities. the interplay between starscream and megatron in the show was shakespeare compared to the movie. and any given throwaway grimlock "funny" line was 100x funnier than anything in this movie.

This was a comedy?

the first words are something like "before time began, there was the cube...". how can it not be a comedy?

i think turturro was maybe performing a little bit of comedy too?

you could have salvaged this with

a) an hour lopped off here and there. seriously, H'wood, there is no reason this thing needed to be seven hours long.

b) a director who can direct humans - comedy all terrible, parents awful, even Turturro, etc.. military guys were OK, Jon Voight done good, Megan Fox's midriff deserves an Oscar

c) a director who can direct/choreograph an action scene - screen blurred by shit flying around != excitement, really. I think Doug Liman is basically the only big-time director who can make scenes zoom-pow-boomy and coherent. If you're going to make everything so fast, at least make those sequences shorter, because they get boring.

c part 2) make the action scenes mean something. action is only exciting when there's something at stake. This is why the last two Matrix movies sucked - when you know all the major characters are safe, who cares? It's like playing a game on God Mode.

d) a coherent script: how did Optimus Prime, et al. know about Wickity-Wack and the glasses if they hadn't broken in? why did the cube only create EVIL bots? How did Megatron have this grand plan to corrupt all human technology, when Megatron's ass had been frozen since the iron age?

Kind of amazing how great Independence Day seems now.

the interplay between starscream and megatron in the show was shakespeare compared to the movie. and any given throwaway grimlock "funny" line was 100x funnier than anything in this movie.

ME GRIMLOCK AGREE WITH THIS PERSON

d) a coherent script: how did Optimus Prime, et al. know about Wickity-Wack and the glasses if they hadn't broken in?
ebay, this was covered

this needed some dinobots tho

wait grimlock was in this and had funny line? when

why did the Decepticons need to crack the military-industrial complex to lead them to Professor Wickiwhatever to lead them to Ebay, if the Autobots just knew straight away that they were looking for his descendent and some glasses with the map?

If the Autobots knew beforehand, why didn't they seek out the kid before the Decepticons landed on Earth?

maybe they both found out when he posted the lot on ebay

i guess i see your point tho

i guess it is best not to "overthink" these things

with the exception of the ear-plugging, i agree with Spencer Chow's posts totally

i think they tried to do a bit too much with this - fuck all the Qatar shit for starters.

more bickering among Decepticons would've been good esp. Starscream and Megatron, the latter didn't get enough time on screen, could've been more built up.

all of the Decepticon stuff was disappointing really - but the Autobot stuff was mostly great - them all trying to hide from Spike's parents outside his house was great. i just laughed at "my bad" and similar lines - right kind of corn. every single scene involving Prime was very exciting and fun. Bumblebee's hand gestures both when first communicating with Spike and then motioning to the other Autobots = super classic. but the way they managed to stomp around Spike's neighbourhood so much without drawing attention was ridic, as was the 'tooth fairy' line (dumbest non-science-based moment by far)

having a dam in the movie and the dam not bursting = really fucking weird what is the point, cliched tho it may be.

the fight scenes were just too fast but i don't know if they could've done this better without reverting to played out bullet time - i'm actually sort of impressed they resisted this. but it was really so fast, and i would've liked more from the fights - needed Terminator/Arnie style 'feel every punch/neck bone adjustment' power.

great feeling from Prime's blurb at the end. this was as good as Singer's X-Mens at least.

sorry i can't stop calling Sam Spike

Rumors of a Tony Scott Gobots movie in pre.

having a dam in the movie and the dam not bursting = really fucking weird what is the point

lololololol awesome point

Okay, I came after seeing this.

HOW CAN YOU GUYS NOT HAVE LIKED THIS? YOU MUST ALL HAVE SOMETHING SERIOUSLY MASSIVE STUCK UP YOUR BUMS.

http://www.angelfire.com/theforce/athfpics/the_ghost_of_christmas_past_from_the_future.jpg

Robot monologues = the above img.

This was fucking awesome, but I have absolutely zero interest in

a) thinking about it
b) reading anything anyone has to say about it, on this thread or elsewhere

I really can't decide whether I thought this was

a) Stupidly awesome
b) Awesomely stupid

I am tending towards a), while also thinking it could be both.

Loved it.

Bring on number 2

I agree. Was very enjoyable.

Bumblebee would've been cooler had he stayed a 70s Camaro instead of that ugly new one.

-- Johnny Fever, Thursday, 5 July 2007 00:28 (Thursday, 5 July 2007 00:28)

OTM!!ii!!

also roffle at "Sam's happy time"

-- HI DERE, Wednesday, 4 July 2007 23:56 (Wednesday, 4 July 2007 23:56)

Indeed! Actually the jokes were pretty class in the first half of the film.

My wife also has a thing for the new Camaro.

-- HI DERE, Thursday, 5 July 2007 00:41 (Thursday, 5 July 2007 00:41)

Pervert!

my biggest criticism of the movie is that it's totally fucking weird for those two to be dry humping on top of bumblebee at the end.

-- the schef (adam schefter ha ha), Thursday, 5 July 2007 17:03 (Thursday, 5 July 2007 17:03)

I turned to friend and we agreed that TF be voyeurs all watching them make it and shit. A bit like will (Is there anything I have thought of that hasn't been covered by someone else already? SRSLY FU GUYZ!)

lol yeah re: the other autobots watching, it really made it v creepy when optimus was giving his big voice over movie ending speech about how the autobots are all over society, hiding in plain sight, WATCHING YOU...gross you metal perverts!

-- the schef (adam schefter ha ha), Thursday, 5 July 2007 17:40 (Thursday, 5 July 2007 17:40)

FFS no originality left in me obv :(

All of the ludicrous, incoherent things pointed out about this movie are just making me like it more in retrospect.

OTM FU H8RZ!!

The big kid in me:
THAT ROBOT IS SHOOTING ROCKETS IN SLO-MO AND THERES A HOT BABE AND SOMETHING IS 'SPLODING IN THE BACKGROUND OMG!

-- The Macallan 18 Year, Thursday, July 5, 2007 7:51 PM

OTMFM!!!

The monster tank did suck. The product placement was ridic. It was hard for eyes to focus a lot of the time but ON THE WHOLE I loved this film and would happily go again.

Aldo OTM (xxpost)

I liked the occasional bits of fanwank in there as well - eg Prime going to Megatron "one shall stand, one shall fall".

perhaps the Dam was sort of an intentional nod to the old Decepticon Dambusters story.

it's kind of a shame there's only three main female characters and the two young ones were the most boring unimaginative pin-up types they could've gone for. Megan Fox not that cute anyway. the blonde Aussie(?) should've been a chubby emo-goth with AS.

the whole "there's only one hacker in the world who can decode this signal"...and he lives just a couple of miles downtown! and is too hip-hop to have been recruited by NASA!" thing seemed really dumb but not as much as when they look at the signal with that ridiculous Star Trek TNG software zooming in to see the floating TF language characters.

(still loved it)

You only gave it 3 stars iirc. Couldn't read the review because I didn't want any spoilers.

Also re. Megan Fox not being that cute? YOU MAD!!!

she was more "hot" than "cute". two separate kinds of attractiveness, really.

Frankly, if this was a picture thread, I would be open to discussion on the matter. Make it so.

yeah she was hot but really boring. i liked the bit where she went 'your mom's so nice'. all the domestic stuff was pretty cool (not what you're there to see but still). sam's friend climbing the tree (and later bathing his dog) also good - loads of nice little things like this.

have relaxed on the Qatar scenes because i guess it was good to show a Decep in a different terrain if only for effects purposes. it really didn't add anything of substance to the story tho.

did we actually see Starscream die? his dogfight over the city with the F-16s was hot.

she looked almost exactly like Tea Leoni in Bad Boys. the movie works a lot better when it doesn't it have much of a plot i.e. the first 45 min.

did we actually see Starscream die? his dogfight over the city with the F-16s was hot.

i said this too after leaving the cinema

she looked almost exactly like Tea Leoni in Bad Boys

haha and i thought this tooooo

Starscream flew away at the end therefor there will be a sequel for sure!

Tea Leoni? *Sigh*

there's a bit over the credits showing starscream flying off into space

With that and Optimus calling all bots to earth number 2 is going to be magnificent. I hope.

daaamn i wish i had stayed til the end - i saw they were doing bits with Sam's parents talking.

if not for the sequel the third one's gotta be 'Unicron Eat World'

Or:

"Bitch did you buy product 'x' like we told you? No? Well here's 3 hours of a commercial. Buy this shit!"

I think I'd rather have seen the Citroen C5 ad a couple of hundred times. The transforms were totally bogus! How come Bumblebee the robot was 20ft high, like 4 times bigger than a car?

http://www.meganfoxy.com/gallery/fhm/images/megan-fox-fhm-2.jpg

go in peace

fuck this film and fuck 80s nostalgia.

How come Bumblebee the robot was 20ft high, like 4 times bigger than a car?

er, you're familiar with the original concept right? also the big stupid cube thing compressed itself to a 1000th the size or whatever remember. i thought all the TFs looked more or less to proportional scale tho.

also the big stupid cube thing compressed itself to a 1000th the size or whatever remember.

well, yes. some things are so stupid there's no point asking why. other things are stolen from 'men in black'. but the trailer was more explicit than the film about the main problem: "they can turn into anything". so why always the same shit?

a really elementary thing is that the robots are so kind of spindly really, they don't appear very indestuctible. the fight scenes are really boring as a result. we know that big depleted uranium cannon fire can't do shit to them; they presumably know it too, so why bother trying to punch each other?

Yeah I'm familar with cars turning into robots about the same size as cars - and I thought they all looked way bigger. xp.

They should've come right out and called the cube the MacGuffin. "Before time began, there was the MacGuffin." "We traced the MacGuffin to an unknown planet called... Earth." "Sam! Push the MacGuffin into my chest!"