I Fucked Ann Coulter In the Ass, Hard.

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Forksclovetofu (Forksclovetofu), Thursday, 28 April 2005 00:37 (twenty years ago)

My god.

Huk-L, Thursday, 28 April 2005 00:44 (twenty years ago)

God has little to do with this.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 28 April 2005 00:48 (twenty years ago)

I'm not sure I approve of people catharsizing hostility through, um, fanfic, especially when the subject of the hostility's a woman.

On the other hand, I shudder in horror at what actually-fannish Coulter fanfic might be like.

Michael Daddino (epicharmus), Thursday, 28 April 2005 00:55 (twenty years ago)

I feel like I can only resort to a Ragget-ism here, something along the lines of "Dear me!"

Hurting (Hurting), Thursday, 28 April 2005 01:02 (twenty years ago)

yogurt cannon

Masked Gazza, Thursday, 28 April 2005 01:11 (twenty years ago)

Ragget-ism

*whimpers slightly* Raggett-ism, surely. ;-)

Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 28 April 2005 01:14 (twenty years ago)

Gentlemen don't talk... that said, good for him.

Jimmy Mod Knows You Eat Your Own Farts (ModJ), Thursday, 28 April 2005 01:18 (twenty years ago)

Has slash fic reached a new low or a new high?

happy fun ball (kenan), Thursday, 28 April 2005 01:30 (twenty years ago)

That was a wishy-washy, ineffectual liberal kind of question, wasn't it?

This is great.

happy fun ball (kenan), Thursday, 28 April 2005 01:36 (twenty years ago)

I've seen this pasted over the internet in a couple places. Am I the only one who thinks it's just plain old poor taste and not really funny at all?

Mickey (modestmickey), Thursday, 28 April 2005 01:40 (twenty years ago)

she would break in half, yo

sugarpants: new and improved! (sugarpants), Thursday, 28 April 2005 01:40 (twenty years ago)

also, i can't relate at all to the concept of hate-fucking.

sugarpants: new and improved! (sugarpants), Thursday, 28 April 2005 01:41 (twenty years ago)

Am I the only one who thinks it's just plain old poor taste and not really funny at all?

It's supreme poor taste, and really funny.

happy fun ball (kenan), Thursday, 28 April 2005 01:43 (twenty years ago)

I'm not sure I approve of people catharsizing hostility through, um, fanfic, especially when the subject of the hostility's a woman.

also, i can't relate at all to the concept of hate-fucking.

But she's the one doing the hate fucking! He not full of hate for her, he's full of liberalism!

happy fun ball (kenan), Thursday, 28 April 2005 01:44 (twenty years ago)

She pees on him! You guys didn't read this, did you?

happy fun ball (kenan), Thursday, 28 April 2005 01:45 (twenty years ago)

He pees on her, no?

Once she caught her breath, she wiped her mouth, stood, and took me by the hand.
‘Let’s go to the bathroom.’
‘Why?’
She seemed surprised I had to ask. Her tone was that of someone reminding another of something too obvious to need mention.
‘Uh, so I can get in the tub and you can piss all over me?’

I this guy British? Note the single scare quotes. The idea of people from other countries hating her this much is telling.

fire walker, Thursday, 28 April 2005 01:59 (twenty years ago)

Oh, yeah. But she demands it. Still, I think people were balking because they thought the tone of the story was that he, like, grudge fucked her. But despite the title, he does not. He just kinda follows instructions.

happy fun ball (kenan), Thursday, 28 April 2005 02:01 (twenty years ago)

I've seen this pasted over the internet in a couple places. Am I the only one who thinks it's just plain old poor taste and not really funny at all?

-- Mickey (modestmicke...), April 28th, 2005.

I just didn't think it was funny.

Hurting (Hurting), Thursday, 28 April 2005 02:08 (twenty years ago)

"prying her ass cheeks apart like a hot dinner roll" is funny, I'm sorry. But I'm a dirty boy.

happy fun ball (kenan), Thursday, 28 April 2005 02:10 (twenty years ago)

dirty dirty!

Jimmy Mod Knows You Eat Your Own Farts (ModJ), Thursday, 28 April 2005 02:13 (twenty years ago)

I think this is pretty disgusting.

kirsten (kirsten), Thursday, 28 April 2005 02:19 (twenty years ago)

i'm disappointed that there's only one entry

kingfish maximum overdrunk (Kingfish), Thursday, 28 April 2005 02:20 (twenty years ago)

Why?

kirsten (kirsten), Thursday, 28 April 2005 02:21 (twenty years ago)

Dude, the door's open for a booty call there!

Jimmy Mod Knows You Eat Your Own Farts (ModJ), Thursday, 28 April 2005 02:22 (twenty years ago)

What are you even talking about?

kirsten (kirsten), Thursday, 28 April 2005 02:23 (twenty years ago)

Why?

because it suggests laziness. with such a gimmick, you surely need to go to town with it in order for it to work.

for example, the Incredible Hulk's Blog

kingfish maximum overdrunk (Kingfish), Thursday, 28 April 2005 02:25 (twenty years ago)

I am unsurprisingly with the "disgusting" camp on this one. Daddino OTM in his way of putting it, actually.

Allyzay do not obtain to make download of yours MP3 (allyzay), Thursday, 28 April 2005 02:26 (twenty years ago)

i'm disappointed that there's only one entry

and oh my god i just realized i made a hideous pun

kingfish maximum overdrunk (Kingfish), Thursday, 28 April 2005 02:26 (twenty years ago)

Well, I mean, would this guy (I'm assuming this is a guy's blog) have written something like this about ass-fucking Rush Limbaugh? To me, he just seems to be picking on Ann Coulter (idiot bloodsucking insect droid that she is) because she's female. I'm a little bit drunk so I apologize if I'm overreacting, but...yeah.

kirsten (kirsten), Thursday, 28 April 2005 02:31 (twenty years ago)

written something like this about ass-fucking Rush Limbaugh?

give it time, my dear, give it time.

kingfish maximum overdrunk (Kingfish), Thursday, 28 April 2005 02:36 (twenty years ago)

http://ifuckedjonahgoldbergintheasshard.blogspot.com/ is still available.

Austin Still (Austin, Still), Thursday, 28 April 2005 02:40 (twenty years ago)

OH MY GOD ARE WE GOING TO TURN ANN COULTER INTO A PARIAH FOR FEMINISM NOW?

happy fun ball (kenan), Thursday, 28 April 2005 02:42 (twenty years ago)

Oh, for fuck's sake.

kirsten (kirsten), Thursday, 28 April 2005 02:44 (twenty years ago)

Pardon me if I'm not charmed when some dude decides to show how much cooler/smarter/better he is than some [albeit awful] woman by calling on the power of his PENIS.

kirsten (kirsten), Thursday, 28 April 2005 02:46 (twenty years ago)

kirsten, you're OTM. it's not funny, I don't care if the subject is Ann Coulter or Mother Teresa.

Allyzay do not obtain to make download of yours MP3 (allyzay), Thursday, 28 April 2005 02:48 (twenty years ago)

http://ibeatjonahgoldbergtoaquiveringpulpwithasockfulofsparechange.blogspot.com/ is still available as well.

Austin Still (Austin, Still), Thursday, 28 April 2005 02:48 (twenty years ago)

I repeated every Karl Marx quote I could think of until I reached my own ‘historic inevitability’ and launched surge after surge from my hairy boda bag

ha ha

sorry

(ha)

Jordan (Jordan), Thursday, 28 April 2005 02:50 (twenty years ago)

kenan, that doesn't even make sense. i think the word you wanted is martyr. either way, you're being an ass.

Kim (Kim), Thursday, 28 April 2005 02:50 (twenty years ago)

Also available: http://iconvertedjonahgoldbergtoaclassicalliberalsocialistviewpointwithreasoneddiscourse.blogspot.com/

Austin Still (Austin, Still), Thursday, 28 April 2005 02:51 (twenty years ago)

i think the word you wanted is martyr.

Yeah. That.

happy fun ball (kenan), Thursday, 28 April 2005 02:52 (twenty years ago)

it's disgusting not only in its vulgarity, lack of actual wit, sophomoric language, but as kirsten and ally noted, in its objectification of a woman. even if in this case it concerns a woman who tends to be repulsive and evil. if this 'essay' had a cousin it would be the tale of laura ingraham being gang raped. i wouldn't find that funny either.

Emilymv (Emilymv), Thursday, 28 April 2005 03:10 (twenty years ago)

the gold standard of fictional celebrity beatdowns

TOMBOT, Thursday, 28 April 2005 03:25 (twenty years ago)

every right wing pundit already plays the martyr card. bah.

the general squid man says, "IT'S A TRAP!!!"

i'll admit, i laughed at first. pass the cave juice, i art stupid sometimes. i learn tho!
m.

msp (mspa), Thursday, 28 April 2005 03:25 (twenty years ago)

good lord, the hypersensitivity.

el sabor de gene (yournullfame), Thursday, 28 April 2005 03:36 (twenty years ago)

you sound surprised

()ops (()()ps), Thursday, 28 April 2005 03:42 (twenty years ago)

If I may backpedal a little because I didn't read it carefully enough the first time (because I was laughing), that whole second-to-last paragraph does lay it on a bit thick, even for a filthy joke, and the "blow her head off" line is a bit off the map. But I laughed at most of it. Oh yes, I did.

happy fun ball (kenan), Thursday, 28 April 2005 03:47 (twenty years ago)

I understand knee-jerk laughing at it, I mean Ann Coulter is a complete cunt. But OTOH a defense of the offensiveness of it like "Ann Coulter is a complete cunt" is kind of not on, IMO.

Allyzay do not obtain to make download of yours MP3 (allyzay), Thursday, 28 April 2005 03:51 (twenty years ago)

I'm going to make a sign that says "This is a tricky grey area."

happy fun ball (kenan), Thursday, 28 April 2005 03:55 (twenty years ago)

Ally OTM. I haven't been around here in a while, so I'm not really caught up on the names people are posting under. So I'm wondering how many people who claim to think this is funny are women. I have a feeling I know the answer.

kirsten (kirsten), Thursday, 28 April 2005 03:55 (twenty years ago)

if you guessed 'nil'...

shine headlights on me (electricsound), Thursday, 28 April 2005 03:58 (twenty years ago)

Well, as the story starts she's clearly in control, in fact a predator, but gradually he moves toward being the predator himself, starting with her "untrimmed bush" (is that some sort of criticism?) and "giving it to her good" etc, which is a problem of continuity as well as content. If he'd stuck with the original premise more, it would have been better. It does get ugly.

Loved the analogy about the second graders, though. I dunno... I guess what I thought was so funny about it was the political banter, not so much the sex. Although I do enjoy a good stupid dick joke, don't get me wrong.

happy fun ball (kenan), Thursday, 28 April 2005 04:16 (twenty years ago)

You guys have made me feel thoroughly bad about laughing at this, for the record.

happy fun ball (kenan), Thursday, 28 April 2005 04:18 (twenty years ago)

And maybe that's for the best. Did we learn something today?

happy fun ball (kenan), Thursday, 28 April 2005 04:20 (twenty years ago)

sooo... if the lady's in charge, she can't be an object. or it's okay for men to be objects. or something? silly.

el sabor de gene (yournullfame), Thursday, 28 April 2005 04:38 (twenty years ago)

No, no. It's just that I think it's a-okay to say, "Ann Coulter's a dirty whore." Because, you know, fuck her.

happy fun ball (kenan), Thursday, 28 April 2005 04:42 (twenty years ago)

can we just fast-forward this convo along 200-300 posts to where the Suicide Girls are brought up? that'd probably save everybody's time.

kingfish maximum overdrunk (Kingfish), Thursday, 28 April 2005 04:45 (twenty years ago)

Suicide Girls usually shave their pussies, so clearly they have nothing to do with this.

happy fun ball (kenan), Thursday, 28 April 2005 04:47 (twenty years ago)

Apart from all the other stuff, this also sullies the good name of ass-fucking.

gypsy mothra (gypsy mothra), Thursday, 28 April 2005 04:50 (twenty years ago)

Oh, now you're really taking this too much to heart.

happy fun ball (kenan), Thursday, 28 April 2005 04:51 (twenty years ago)

and on that note, has Wonkette weighed-in on this?

xpost

kingfish maximum overdrunk (Kingfish), Thursday, 28 April 2005 04:52 (twenty years ago)

>self-important rant<
Lord knows why I'm getting into the fray; but as I read this (and I did read it, top to god-help-me bottom) the "Coulter" character seems to be in full control of the situation throughout, no? The implication is, unsurprisingly, that she has some repressed issues that manifest themselves as a desire to be defiled by that which she hates the most, i.e. liberals.
This, as they say, is the joke.
The other part of the joke is that the writing crosses two boundary lines: 1) that of a Dear Penthouse letter, wherein reality takes a distant back seat to prosaic frathouse dirty talk (re: "yogurt cannon") and 2) the double-entendre and non-sequitur presence of Op-Ed fodder (re: "There is a specter haunting Europe").
The issue of gender is a red herring intentionally left by the author to stir up PRECISELY the sort of shit storm currently being stirred.
This is not anti-woman writing. It's not even anti-conservative writing. It's intentionally offensive and somewhat thought-provoking in the same sense that Lenny Bruce's old schtick was, only updated with maximum unpleasantness so as to provoke a reaction from jaded and shock-saturated readers like ourselves.
Devolving this into a "Oh-isn't-it-horrible-that-this-guy-is-writing-these-things" or "this-is-violence-to-women" merely opens this up to an obvious and false fork in the road, wherein one must either say "Well, you have no sense of humor" (thus stating "I think this is funny", which it is occasionally, but not much more so than the average Onion column) or saying "How can you say this is funny?" (implying that "you" must find fucking women in the ass and ejaculating in their mouth [again, with their consent] funny).
Instead, might I suggest that we just take it for what it is; to wit: an occasionally amusing turn of phrase that pushes the envelope a tetch too hard for most people's liking? It's also the meme of the moment; that's why I dropped it here in the first place.
And yeah, Ann Coulter is an idiot, so she's an easy target to make because of that, not because she's a woman.
As for Limbaugh slash fic, I'll admit I couldn't find any.
Seems like a field ripe for the fucking.
>/self important rant

Forksclovetofu (Forksclovetofu), Thursday, 28 April 2005 05:04 (twenty years ago)

the double-entendre and non-sequitur presence of Op-Ed fodder (re: "There is a specter haunting Europe").

That's not Op-Ed fodder, that's The Communist Manifesto. But point taken. I understand all that, and did the first time I read it, but I think what the people on this thread are objecting to is the overuse of objectification, so that it becomes actually frattish rather than a patrody of that. It crosses a line. I can see that, certainly.

happy fun ball (kenan), Thursday, 28 April 2005 05:11 (twenty years ago)

anybody ever read that internet comic where the world becomes a cult of limbaugh and moves to the antartic and he eats everybody and becomes this giant blob thing?

google's not helping me find a link. this is like 8 or 9 years ago. i think word.com had something to do with it. could it be gone?
m.

msp (mspa), Thursday, 28 April 2005 05:19 (twenty years ago)

oh god, i think i remember that. bad memories of undergrad life...

kingfish maximum overdrunk (Kingfish), Thursday, 28 April 2005 05:21 (twenty years ago)

Rush Limbaugh Eats Everything

Forksclovetofu (Forksclovetofu), Thursday, 28 April 2005 05:27 (twenty years ago)

ding ding ding. ah yes. same site as the Apocamon.

kingfish maximum overdrunk (Kingfish), Thursday, 28 April 2005 05:28 (twenty years ago)

Man. that Limbaugh thing is great. hadn't read that in a while. Thanks.

happy fun ball (kenan), Thursday, 28 April 2005 05:52 (twenty years ago)

OK I understand the point of the self-righteous rant but there are two things to keep in mind:

1) There are people in the world who would not find this funny whether or not the target was a man, a woman, Sigfried and Roy, whatever. It just would be something they'd find disgusting and unamusing. That's a fair viewpoint to have.
2) The Rush Limbaugh point is also a valid one: there's a reason why websites like that don't exist but type in the name of any female celebrity and you'll invariably find a story like this about her.

Allyzay do not obtain to make download of yours MP3 (allyzay), Thursday, 28 April 2005 05:57 (twenty years ago)

There are people in the world who would not find this funny whether or not the target was a man, a woman, Sigfried and Roy, whatever. It just would be something they'd find disgusting and unamusing. That's a fair viewpoint to have.

Fair, yes. Also fair to make fun of how boring and humorless they are. A delightful thing to do, IMO.

type in the name of any female celebrity and you'll invariably find a story like this about her

That's overstating the case a bit, but I think I know what you're getting at. The "sexist" humor draws to closely on SEXIST humor for comfort.

happy fun ball (kenan), Thursday, 28 April 2005 06:08 (twenty years ago)

I kind of can't understand why anyone would want to read something titled "I Fucked Ann Coulter In The Ass, Hard" in the first place? I mean, ew.

The Ghost of Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Thursday, 28 April 2005 12:54 (twenty years ago)

Well, the only reason I clicked onto this thread is cause its been uptop three times now.

And also because I madly click and post on every thread here, obv...

mark grout (mark grout), Thursday, 28 April 2005 12:59 (twenty years ago)

Yeah Mark, there is that, but when I saw the blogspot URL I thought, "Um, why would I even consider reading that? Yuck."

The Ghost of Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Thursday, 28 April 2005 13:01 (twenty years ago)

(Much of this is related to the fervent hope that Ann Coulter never, ever, ever, ever has sex because she might accidentally have a child and I'm kind of hoping her genes get chucked out of the pool.)

The Ghost of Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Thursday, 28 April 2005 13:03 (twenty years ago)

I respect people being offended by this, but I find it less offensive than the the racialized serial killing in the other side's fringe fiction, and even the Jesus holocaust in the Left Behind Series. This guy's fighting fire with fire, I think.

shago martin, Thursday, 28 April 2005 13:10 (twenty years ago)

Well, I'm a girl and I thought it was hilarious.
so there.
Particularly.
'Thanks for not staring at my adam’s apple.’

Nellie (nellskies), Thursday, 28 April 2005 13:13 (twenty years ago)

(xpost) Oh for fuck's sake why does everything have to devolve into a game of Offensiveness Trumps? What's wrong with being repelled by nonsense from both sides?

The Ghost of Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Thursday, 28 April 2005 13:16 (twenty years ago)

Just post the following whenever we decide to have this argument again

1: This isn't funny, it's kind of just gross, dude

2: WELL I LAUGHED AT IT AND I WANTED YOU TO LAUGH AT
IT TOO SO I WOULDN'T FEEL GUILTY FOR LAUGHING AT IT
WTF IS YOUR PROBLEM ARE YOU THE PC POLICE

1: No, it just isn't funny at all

2: LISTEN I'M SURE IT'S WORTHWHILE ON SOME LEVEL AND
NOT COMPLETE TRASH, I MEAN I DID LAUGH AT IT

1: I guess this one part is sort of funny but overall
it's just really lame

2: ARGH

TOMBOT, Thursday, 28 April 2005 15:01 (twenty years ago)

Reverse "hard" and "ass" and it becomes less offensive and more true-to-life. In fact, try substituting "skeletal" for "hard".

Markelby (Mark C), Thursday, 28 April 2005 15:04 (twenty years ago)

d perry & tombot otm i think. stupidity = stupidity.

Pashmina (Pashmina), Thursday, 28 April 2005 15:09 (twenty years ago)

I personally hope she's accidentally shot by a riot squad at an NRA sponsored prayer meeting and ends up a palsied hag with aphasia(though some of us wouldn't be able to tell the difference), but I didn't find the story particulalry funny and what's offensive is the fact that the dude's into hate fucking, which is, let's face it, creepy and not very in tune with his other 'liberal' sentiments.

If he fantasized about her political assasination, I could sypathise, though I do really want to see Tom Delay slowly devoured by giant bugs from Mars first.

M. White (Miguelito), Thursday, 28 April 2005 15:13 (twenty years ago)

It's intentionally offensive and somewhat thought-provoking [...]

Do you seriously mean that? I feel sorry for the person who finds this story thought provoking...

Mickey (modestmickey), Thursday, 28 April 2005 15:36 (twenty years ago)

Okay, I'm REALLY not going to read the story if it's a b-grade ASSM ripoff.

The Ghost of Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Thursday, 28 April 2005 16:42 (twenty years ago)

alt.sex.stories.manhands?

kingfish maximum overdrunk (Kingfish), Thursday, 28 April 2005 16:52 (twenty years ago)

Ragget-ism
Raggett-ism, surely. ;-)

I remember the spelling by thinking of a baguette. Or, alternatively of a Ray-lette.

Aimless (Aimless), Thursday, 28 April 2005 17:01 (twenty years ago)

For some reason I'm thinking of a some poor child terrified by his Raggetty Ned doll (whose head contains a small voice chip reading out an apparently random series of numbers).

M. White (Miguelito), Thursday, 28 April 2005 17:08 (twenty years ago)

alt.sex.stories.manhands

When a blonde has manhands, I call them "nazi hands".

Open your eyes; you can fly! (ex machina), Thursday, 28 April 2005 17:09 (twenty years ago)

So TT tags still work then

Ed (dali), Thursday, 28 April 2005 17:55 (twenty years ago)

clearly not. Tom, how did you get TT to work?

Ed (dali), Thursday, 28 April 2005 17:56 (twenty years ago)

I'm pretty sure that's PRE, not TT.

The Ghost of Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Thursday, 28 April 2005 18:02 (twenty years ago)

yeah, the "pre" tag is my acceptable substitute. It's totally handy for posting mix tracklistings

TOMBOT, Thursday, 28 April 2005 19:20 (twenty years ago)

For the record, I wouldn't even let my piss touch Ann Coulter.

Hurting (Hurting), Thursday, 28 April 2005 22:16 (twenty years ago)

I could deal with pissing on her if I could be sure she wasn't on fire.

Markelby (Mark C), Thursday, 28 April 2005 22:19 (twenty years ago)

PRE

Ed (dali), Thursday, 28 April 2005 22:19 (twenty years ago)

aha

Ed (dali), Thursday, 28 April 2005 22:20 (twenty years ago)

chocolate socket....hahahah.

Chris 'The Nuts' V (Chris V), Friday, 29 April 2005 00:36 (twenty years ago)

hmmm

Open your eyes; you can fly! (ex machina), Friday, 29 April 2005 01:43 (twenty years ago)

xxxxxxxxxxxxxpost:
Do you seriously mean that? I feel sorry for the person who finds this story thought provoking...
90+ comments and counting suggests that many on here do and since you felt the need to reply, Mickey; it provoked you too.

Forksclovetofu (Forksclovetofu), Friday, 29 April 2005 01:45 (twenty years ago)

I feel like we've moved to some sort of middle ground tho', so that's good.

Forksclovetofu (Forksclovetofu), Friday, 29 April 2005 01:56 (twenty years ago)







gah jon, don't be a pain.

Sterling Clover (s_clover), Friday, 29 April 2005 02:13 (twenty years ago)

I never thought that I would be sitting with my friends defending Ann Coulter. It took this to do it, for better or worse.

I’ll argue the merits of the fictional piece upfront. It’s creative, contains a solid 10th grade vocabulary--rich with words like “splooey” and “unsettling scrutiny.” I can even understand how it is both entertaining and funny. One of the people I love most in the world, my boyfriend, finds it hilarious and he even posted a link to it on his blog. Heck, at face value, it is at the very least an attempt to mock someone I find detestable.

So, why don’t I just lighten up and laugh at the joke? I mean, our generation is ripe with humor that is ‘off color.’ Clearly, finding offense to this item of humor is the sign that I am too serious and incapable of 'getting the joke.’

Under the guise of fan fiction, this guy wrote a very detailed account of meeting Ann Coulter in a grocery store and taking her back to his apartment to have anal sex. She is most turned on by their conservative-liberal repartee and begs to hear politically contrary talking points throughout their fucking.

I have to admit that initially, before reading the piece, I thought ‘that’s funny.’ It was a very smug feeling. The idea of a political pundit who preaches such despicable nonsense getting ‘what she deserves’ briefly entered my head.

And then, I thought about the feeling of frustration I would feel during the Clinton administration. Rather than addressing the merits of her political standings, a majority of conservative liberal-Clinton-bashing centered around her gender. It was commonplace to call her butch and question her sexuality. Partly because I sided with many of the liberal ideologies of Hillary Clinton and partly because I felt offended, I decided that such tactics were nothing short of contemptible. So, then, why would I make an exception for a woman I don’t agree with, politically?

A friend of mine made me reconsider my offense. He said, “I mean, fantasizing about consensual sex with Ann Coulter doesn't seem that bad to me, in the grand scheme of things.” Let me first address the “grand scheme of things.” He is right. The publication of this blog piece and its ensuing praise did not cause the world of gender roles to crumble into the sea of equality. But aren’t these sort of things always nuanced? The explicitly egregious things are always easy to spot and ignore. It is the humor of it, the entertainment of it, the delicately present messages that leave us enjoying messages without considering their impact. It is the incontestable nature of politics to degrade women through sex. Why? Because, well, it IS funny. Funny Is good natured, right? They’re laughing. Why aren’t you?

Secondly, I would like to address the “consensual” element of it. It needs to be said, upfront, that this is NOT a sex-fan-fic piece. It is, at its very core, a slanderous stab at a woman who is very easy to dislike. It is clear in its title, “I Fucked Ann Coulter in the Ass, Hard.” I won’t buy the argument that this guy, no matter how liberal his views on anal sex, is not aware of the demeaning nature of such an act. He is quite aware. It is clear in the comments section of his entry. As my other friend commented sarcastically, "the reason she is so assertive in her public life is because obviously she likes to be dominated in private, because everything she ever does in her life is strategy regarding how to properly have sex." We, men and women, will quickly dismiss the intrinsic worth of a woman's political views, because she is always first a sexual object. And that's what ultimately makes it funny--demeaning a woman who blue states are sick and tired of hearing from. It is almost a cause we're fighting for and her slighted gender is simply a small cost of righting wrongs. Her vile nature brings us back to the playground. We want to push back.

Doing so in the context of what makes her disgusting--addressing the political issues and their lack of merit--would be fair. That’s why the Daily Show is so good. We’re satisfied when someone pushes back on the playground. But what is lost in a piece like this is the method. And for me, degrading a woman through sex is not only not funny, it is completely offensive.

jap herron, Friday, 29 April 2005 15:36 (twenty years ago)

1: There's nothing intrinsically demeaning about anal sex.
2: I don't see how this is a piece about "degrading a woman through sex".
3: I don't think people mock Coulter because of her sex, but rather because she's astonishingly idiotic and sycophantic in a fashion that suggests that her opinion is for sale.
4: Switching genders and political leanings in the piece would not alter it's thrust. Substitute Al Franken for Coulter in this and it doesn't sacrifice too much humor.
5: Draw a Pig.

Forksclovetofu (Forksclovetofu), Friday, 29 April 2005 16:53 (twenty years ago)

Substituting Al Franken would still not make me read this piece (although if I did I would probably laugh more).

The Ghost of Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Friday, 29 April 2005 16:56 (twenty years ago)

1: There's nothing intrinsically demeaning about anal sex.

of course not. but there is something intrinsically demeaning about how it's used in this story. after all, that's why it's funny. she seems above it, but it exposes her for what she really wants: gettin' fucked in the ass by a liberal (HARD).

2: I don't see how this is a piece about "degrading a woman through sex".

are you sure? it's shitting all over ann coulter via a piece of dirty fan-fic wherein the protag fucks her in the ass (HARD).

3: I don't think people mock Coulter because of her sex, but rather because she's astonishingly idiotic and sycophantic in a fashion that suggests that her opinion is for sale.

her politics are the reason for the defiling, but what is the technique behind the defiling itself? oh yeah, fucking her in the ass (HARD).

4: Switching genders and political leanings in the piece would not alter it's thrust. Substitute Al Franken for Coulter in this and it doesn't sacrifice too much humor.

somehow, i find that HARD to believe.

5: Draw a Pig.

hehe. pigs.

ath, Friday, 29 April 2005 17:25 (twenty years ago)

but there is something intrinsically demeaning about how it's used in this story.

so because she asks for it, it's demeaning? or is it the "HARDness" that makes it demeaning? have you never had someone ask you to fuck them "HARD?" should one carefully time one's strokes lest the magical HARDness line be crossed and it turn from good fun to demeaning?

silly.

el sabor de gene (yournullfame), Friday, 29 April 2005 19:42 (twenty years ago)

You guys are all aware that this story is fiction and that Ann Coulter did not, indeed, ask for this.

Allyzay do not obtain to make download of yours MP3 (allyzay), Friday, 29 April 2005 19:43 (twenty years ago)

right, fiction. exactly.

el sabor de gene (yournullfame), Friday, 29 April 2005 19:46 (twenty years ago)

Oh, right, fiction. That excuses everything, in no way does it make sense for anyone to ever be offended by the intentions of a fictional work.

Allyzay do not obtain to make download of yours MP3 (allyzay), Friday, 29 April 2005 19:53 (twenty years ago)

Secondly, I would like to address the “consensual” element of it. It needs to be said, upfront, that this is NOT a sex-fan-fic piece. It is, at its very core, a slanderous stab at a woman who is very easy to dislike.

I mean, this is basically OTM, people. The people who are finding this offensive and not funny aren't doing it on the basis of "anal sex is inherently demeaning" or "sex stories are gross."

Allyzay do not obtain to make download of yours MP3 (allyzay), Friday, 29 April 2005 19:56 (twenty years ago)


http://www.paulduncan.org/files/coulter_drudge.jpg

James Mitchell (James Mitchell), Saturday, 30 April 2005 11:08 (twenty years ago)

worst threesome ever

gabbneb (gabbneb), Saturday, 30 April 2005 11:40 (twenty years ago)

if you find this offensive, you should also avoid: Naked Lunch, Candy, Frank Zappa, and....pretty much most satire.

shookout (shookout), Saturday, 30 April 2005 11:46 (twenty years ago)

Oh whatever. I'm reasonably certain that Voltaire and Swift were better writers than this guy.

The Ghost of Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Sunday, 1 May 2005 02:27 (twenty years ago)

Voltaire's "I fucked Marie Antoinette in the ass hard" isn't much better, no.

Frogm@n Henry, Sunday, 1 May 2005 02:30 (twenty years ago)

tho his follow-up to it, "What I Did With Marie Antoinette's Severed Head," is suprisingly touching

kingfish, Sunday, 1 May 2005 02:39 (twenty years ago)

The "historic inevitability" line - which doesn't really rely on the creepy dynamics most of the story falls back on to be funny - did make me laugh, so the guy's not a totally bad writer. But yeah, jap and Allyzay pretty much OTM.

Daniel_Rf (Daniel_Rf), Monday, 2 May 2005 00:00 (twenty years ago)

Also shookout, don't you mean "if you find this offensive (for theses specific reasons), you should also avoid: Naked Lunch, Candy, Frank Zappa, and....pretty much most satire."? And what would same specific reasons be?

Daniel_Rf (Daniel_Rf), Monday, 2 May 2005 00:02 (twenty years ago)

Oh, right, fiction. That excuses everything, in no way does it make sense for anyone to ever be offended by the intentions of a fictional work.
Momus, I thought you said this was an intelligent community. ?

A homunculus of Darby Crash created for EVIL (ex machina), Monday, 2 May 2005 00:09 (twenty years ago)

roffles

CAN ONE (1) PERSON EXPLAIN TO ME EXACTLY WHAT THIS IS SATIRING SO EXCELLENTLY? I MEAN I KNOW IT IS A "THOUGHT-PROVOKING ASSM STORY WITH ANN COULTER'S NAME AND QUOTES FROM THE COMMUNIST MANIFESTO SUBSTITUTED WHERE "HOT BLONDE SLUT JUST GAGGING FOR IT" AND "OH YEAH YOU LIKE MY ENORMOUS 27" COCK" NORMALLY WOULD BESATIRE" BUT I'M PRETTY DUMB, EXPLAIN IT BETTER FOR ME. FROM WHAT I HAVE READ, THE SATIRE IS AS FOLLOWS:

Ann Coulter, a pretty repressed and prudish seeming woman who is also kind of an intolerable bitch, actually wants to be fucked really hard and pissed on by a man who dislikes her vehemently while he espouses statements that run counter to Ann Coulter's stated beliefs. Written by A Man Who Dislikes Ann Coulter.

If you guys REALLY can't see the difference between this and, like, actual art and literature, and you REALLY can't understand why all the females upthread kind of cried foul on this (it's not the actual, literal content of the piece), then, yeah, here's some more really great satire and intelligent literature for you:
http://groups-beta.google.com/group/alt.sex.stories
"Cruel Man Rapes Virgin Daughter" sounds particularly insightful!!!!!!!! Up there with Kundera, serious.

Allyzay do not obtain to make download of yours MP3 (allyzay), Monday, 2 May 2005 11:25 (twenty years ago)

whoops!

"If you don't get bad Dragonball Z hentai then you shouldn't even BOTHER renting Akira"

Allyzay do not obtain to make download of yours MP3 (allyzay), Monday, 2 May 2005 11:35 (twenty years ago)

Ally you broke ILX again!

J (Jay), Monday, 2 May 2005 12:21 (twenty years ago)

Or maybe just this thread, which quite frankly needed breaking. So yay!

J (Jay), Monday, 2 May 2005 12:22 (twenty years ago)


so what should we do? get the blogspot site taken down? send the guy to sensitivity classes?

i really don't care that what he wrote exists, and i really don't understand why it should upset anyone so much. if you don't find it funny chalk it up to that. if you think he was seriously angling for 'erotica,' chalk it up to people's fucked up and weird hangups. if you really think it was 'slanderous,' send a copy to ann coulter's agent and let them take it from there.

if you just want everyone who chuckled at any part of it to feel bad, i'm afraid that won't happen. if you just want to overreact and jump up and down and yell, though, keep it up.

el sabor de gene (yournullfame), Tuesday, 3 May 2005 08:47 (twenty years ago)

el sabor de gene, the impression I got is all that anybody who disliked it (such as myself) is satisfied with mentioning it on ILM, and that's it. I mean, this is a forum for conversation, and not some sort of activist organizing thing... right?

Mickey (modestmickey), Tuesday, 3 May 2005 10:11 (twenty years ago)

el sabor, you really need to get over yourself.

The Ghost of Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Tuesday, 3 May 2005 10:25 (twenty years ago)

CAN ONE (1) PERSON EXPLAIN TO ME EXACTLY WHAT THIS IS SATIRING SO EXCELLENTLY?

Satire 1. a. A literary work in which human vice or folly is attacked through irony, derision, or wit.

'wit' is obviously debatable. derision, though...

and not some sort of activist organizing thing... right?

that's sort of what i'm trying to figure out. allyzay keeps reiterating her point without really explaining why it's necessary to do so. is it different from "actual art and literature?" clearly to her it is. i wouldn't exactly call it literature, but so? why bother continuously restating that in such a freaked-out way?

el sabor, you really need to get over yourself.

thanks! so should everyone else!

el sabor de gene (yournullfame), Tuesday, 3 May 2005 12:17 (twenty years ago)

Everyone else already is over themselves. Please catch up.

The Ghost of Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Tuesday, 3 May 2005 12:24 (twenty years ago)

i don't know, dan. people who are 'over themselves' don't generally say things like "get over yourself!" unless they're fantastically gay and starring in an NBC sitcom.

el sabor de gene (yournullfame), Tuesday, 3 May 2005 12:30 (twenty years ago)

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The Ghost of THis THread Has Found Its Level At Last (Dan Perry), Tuesday, 3 May 2005 12:35 (twenty years ago)

omg pictures it's finally over! hooray!

el sabor de gene (yournullfame), Tuesday, 3 May 2005 12:37 (twenty years ago)

ok, if I imagine that picture fucking Ann Coulter in the Ass, Hard, it's a little funny then

Mickey (modestmickey), Tuesday, 3 May 2005 15:47 (twenty years ago)

(hahaha)

The Ghost of LAST WORD (Dan Perry), Tuesday, 3 May 2005 22:17 (twenty years ago)

Once More, With Feeling!
I like this one better.

Forksclovetofu (Forksclovetofu), Sunday, 15 May 2005 04:10 (twenty years ago)

'Do you like Football?’ she asked eagerly.
‘Uh, I guess..’
‘Good,’ she said, climbing atop my pool table and waving her ass in the air like a rapper without a care, ‘then tell your Brown Bay Packer it’s kickoff time.’

kingfish maximum overdrunk (Kingfish), Sunday, 15 May 2005 04:26 (twenty years ago)

Boys are dumb.

Leon Federline (Ex Leon), Sunday, 15 May 2005 15:28 (twenty years ago)


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