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You don't have to be from the UK, but it helps to be in this timezone.

So, erm... what did you get up to at the weekend? How's the weather where you are, bloody typical, eh? Any aches and pains to complain about? How are your local busses running? How does your garden grow?

And most importantly... is it time for our tea break yet?

Luminiferous Aether (kate), Monday, 12 September 2005 08:24 (twenty years ago)

yes! tea break at 10:30, perfect timing. i seem to be suffering from hayfever today, so i'm snuffly. bizarre, because it's a real dreary frickin' day.

g-kit (g-kit), Monday, 12 September 2005 08:27 (twenty years ago)

this weekend i got drunk and, using only mad skillz and a marker pen, turned an Off License into a Fuck Off License. I feel really guilty today.

g-kit (g-kit), Monday, 12 September 2005 08:29 (twenty years ago)

Last Friday, we went on a BAT WALK!!! Bats are just about the coolest thing ever! (Or perhaps I was just infected by the enthusiasm of the Bat Geek who led the walk.)

The best thing about it was the handheld BAT DETECTORS we had to use to spot the bats as it was dark out. (Well, when we were out of sight of the giant glowing space jellyfish that is Canary Wharf. What *is* that place? It frightens me.) These look a bit like MXR pedals with a knob for volume and a knob for frequency - as most bat conversation and echolocation is out of the range of human hearing.

BATS SOUND LIKE AUTECHRE!!! Honestly, they made the coolest semi-rhythmic wet smacking squelching drum-machine-under-duress sounds ever.

Other than that, rain delayed most of my weekend. My beautiful roses got smashed to pieces. :-(

I agree, it's time for my first cup of coffee. Mmmm, mochaccino.

Luminiferous Aether (kate), Monday, 12 September 2005 08:29 (twenty years ago)

Belfast and surrounds went crazy, as I'm sure you know - http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/northern_ireland/4236208.stm

It's all very depressing but didn't stop me going out on Saturday night. Still, burned out cars in my town centre (ballyclare). Bad old days, here we come. And to think I was feeling great about NI and how far we'd come after Wednesday night. Thanks you scumbags.

Apart from that, I'm still doing admin temping with very little to do.

Crackity (Crackity Jones), Monday, 12 September 2005 08:30 (twenty years ago)

People often call me up and try to convince me to install a watercooler in my office. I have to tell them we all just hang out by the sink. They never laugh.

g-kit (g-kit), Monday, 12 September 2005 08:33 (twenty years ago)

Our watercooler is in the kitchen, so people do go in there to have private conversations. I prefer to hang out by the caffeination machine, myself. I cannot seem to get motivated to start work today even though I have tons to do and actually today two heads of different departments are fighting over me. So what am I doing? Goofing about on ILX.

Blimey, Crackity, were you anywhere near any of it? I feel kind of shocked about it all - but hoping it's rather more of a last gasp than kicking off again.

Luminiferous Aether (kate), Monday, 12 September 2005 08:40 (twenty years ago)

i also went to a party, the highlight of which was an impromptu violin duet performance. seriously. how very high-brow, oh yes. a sophisticated evening indeed. until i leaned over the balcony and wrote 'fuck' on a shop sign, at least.

g-kit (g-kit), Monday, 12 September 2005 08:43 (twenty years ago)

damn i hope it rains today so we'll win the creekit

ken c (ken c), Monday, 12 September 2005 08:43 (twenty years ago)

A party? With violin duets? My goodness!

I went to a gig on Saturday night. Brakes - who I had been avoiding because HE BROKE MY BANDMATE'S LEG!!! - but they turned out to be actually very good live. And I managed to have an entire conversation with Eamon without calling him a LEG-BREAKING FREAK!!!!

They did a JAMC cover which made me very happy. And kind of made up for the rest of the evening being so shit - the Windmill was very crowded because of the rain and full of tossers, grrrr.

Luminiferous Aether (kate), Monday, 12 September 2005 08:46 (twenty years ago)

Can I post to this thread if I'm not in the office? It's my last day off until November, and I'm going swimming then somewhere cool in Greenwich for lunch.

Weekend - I met up with a couple of girls I haven't seen for a while. I didn't expect to meet up with their own group of parallel internet mentalists. One of them was AN DETECTIVE - the previous week she'd received a report of harassment from a woman who caimed her neighbours had been training their cats to spy on her. I like these people.

Matt DC (Matt DC), Monday, 12 September 2005 08:49 (twenty years ago)

Matt, I'm so pleased to see you mucking about in the interweb that it doesn't matter where you are.

she'd received a report of harassment from a woman who caimed her neighbours had been training their cats to spy on her.

BWAH HAH HAH HAH HAH HAH!!! Maybe they customised their BAT DETECTORS to be CAT DETECTORS!!! Purring = Echolocation for cats.

Luminiferous Aether (kate), Monday, 12 September 2005 08:51 (twenty years ago)

One day soon I'll post the picture of the Cretan cat that looks like John Prescott. I think that actually WAS spying on us.

Matt DC (Matt DC), Monday, 12 September 2005 08:53 (twenty years ago)

my goodness indeed. it's the last thing i expected. but much footstomping and handclapping fun was had by all. i have pictures on my phone, but it's a NEW phone which i got for FREE and haven't set up all the complicated pap like sending emails and stuff, so you'll just have to take my word for it. i wouldn't fucking believe me.
g-kit & sophistication = shyyyeah!

g-kit (g-kit), Monday, 12 September 2005 08:55 (twenty years ago)

a STOCKBROKER called OSCAR just phoned and offered me his services. SERIOUSLY! he must've heard about the party. should i go buy a Lexus?

g-kit (g-kit), Monday, 12 September 2005 08:58 (twenty years ago)

Nobody's *really* called Oscar.

Luminiferous Aether (kate), Monday, 12 September 2005 09:02 (twenty years ago)

Haha I think one of Hugh Fearnley-Whittingstall's kids is. Also my choice for name of the latest family poodle (my mom vetoed and calls it Willie, ecch).

suzy (suzy), Monday, 12 September 2005 09:06 (twenty years ago)

i was totally convinced. he sounded like an Oscar. he even got a little bit posh-man arsey when i insisted i didn't need a stockbroker.

g-kit (g-kit), Monday, 12 September 2005 09:07 (twenty years ago)

One of our friends' kid is called Oscar. So is one of our other friends' cat.

mark grout (mark grout), Monday, 12 September 2005 09:08 (twenty years ago)

Why would a posh stockbroker be cold-calling anyway? I don't understand this.

I want more on the CAT DETECTORS, myself. Hrmmm. I wonder what would happen if you used a Bat Detector on a cat? I bet the purring would sound amazing. I mean, crickets sound like drum n bass through a bat Detector.

Luminiferous Aether (kate), Monday, 12 September 2005 09:10 (twenty years ago)

(Also, I'm still waiting for someone to explain Canary Wharf to me. It's an awful place! reminded me of Roosevelt Island. Like someone just bit a chunk out of Park Ave in NYC and plopped it down in the middle of Docklands. Can you even just walk in as an ordinary person, since they have those scary gates to keep the riff raff out?)

Luminiferous Aether (kate), Monday, 12 September 2005 09:11 (twenty years ago)

i like naming cats! all the cats that live near me have nicknames. there's Skinny-kit, who's a black cat. he seems really old and a bit deaf. he hangs out in my parking lot. sometimes i can sneak up on him and he turns around real quick, all startled. he's lovely.
then there's Fluffly-kit, who has a white blob on his nose. i don't know him as well as Skinny, he seems a bit shy. he's not there quite as often. then only last week, i met another car-park dweller. he ran away as soon as he saw me, so he's called Run-away-kit. Last time i saw him, he didn't run away, he just hopped up on the fence and watched me with great suspicion. my parking-lot is totally like a rendwz-vous for the neighbourhood kitty club though. it pwns.

g-kit (g-kit), Monday, 12 September 2005 09:12 (twenty years ago)

i'm not sure about the cold-calling... he asked for me by name, too. strange.

g-kit (g-kit), Monday, 12 September 2005 09:13 (twenty years ago)

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Luminiferous Aether - It doesn't seem like a last gasp to me. The atnmosphere in the estates seems to be pretty poisonous. While most of us over here are happily getting on with peace and relative prosperity, putting the last 35 years well and truly behind us, there is a portion of society that isn't interested. I won't try analysing the loyalist working class because I'm too detached from it (though there is some of that on the BBC site if you're interested), but there seems to be a hell of a lot of frustration and hatred about.

I didn't see anything first hand but most of what happened was in a 15 mile radius from where I live, and like I say I saw the aftermath in Ballyclare. Most of it was in estates in the depths of north and west Belfast but by no means all. There were quite a few hijackings as well, including of buses, which is really disturbing.

Perhaps the most shocking thing is the Orange Order's response to Sir Hugh Orde's (Chief Constable) absolutely reasonable statement that they should take some responsibility for what happened -

"While the Orange Order has noted the Chief Constable's intemperate, inflammatory and inaccurate remarks, we have decided to take a more responsible line and will not be drawn into a similar knee-jerk reaction, it said.

"At this stage, all we would say is that if what we saw today was policing, it was policing at its worst."

I hope they've lost what little credibility they had left after this. They are no better than paramilitaries.

Crackity (Crackity Jones), Monday, 12 September 2005 09:14 (twenty years ago)

Blimey. Sounds terrible.

In far more trivial matters, I've just had to try and reverse all the damage I did last week when I was drafted in to do the accounts now that that everyone is back. Sigh.

Luminiferous Aether (kate), Monday, 12 September 2005 09:32 (twenty years ago)

i think canary wharf is great and beautiful, it's one of my favourite areas of london. i like the way most cities are entirely like that, with a token old quarter full of 'history' and dust tucked away in some remote corner, but london is the other way round.

um, what did i do at the weekend: i went to fabric, danced, stayed up all night, walked from king's x to leicester square with anna the next day and had horrible overexpensive dim sum while being looked at askance by other diners who weren't in the previous night's raving gear and who weren't having to concentrate as hard as us on the act of being alive. then we went to the pub for a while, then another pub, then i ended up in kilburn that night, then i watched pop videos and did some writing on sunday morning, then i helped to sub plan b, then i came home and got a severe case of the shakes which could only be countered by blasting the most banging electro i could find at top volume and jumping around my room.

at some point i lost my flatmate and he's still not back yet!

The Lex (The Lex), Monday, 12 September 2005 09:57 (twenty years ago)

I think I should go and spend more time at Canary Wharf in order to try and understand it. But preferably at the weekend when it's not full of suits. Maybe we should have a rolling walk there.

Luminiferous Aether (kate), Monday, 12 September 2005 10:03 (twenty years ago)

I DJ-ed Jungle and Reggaeton tracks in a tiny upstairs room of a pub on Friday night while my friends (sole inhabitants of the room) stood arms akimbo and clapped politely every time there was a quiet bit. Not my fault as it was an early slot and people hadn't really left the pubs to get there yet. Good set though, I was pleased with my Gasolina/µ-ziq mash up.

Saturday my girlfriend dragged me out of bed to go to a pub in Balham where we literally drank ALL DAY but somehow didn't get close to drunk. Very strange, all I got was a throbbing headache.

Terrible news about Northern Ireland. My grandmother lives in Bangor and I do hope she's alright.

dog latin (dog latin), Monday, 12 September 2005 10:04 (twenty years ago)

I have the edge of a headache, but I've had one all weekend. I think it's SSRI withdrawl. I'm really cross now after reading that stupid review.

Luminiferous Aether (kate), Monday, 12 September 2005 10:06 (twenty years ago)

kate - canary wharf is best at night when it's DESERTED! and if you walk over all the future-bridges.

The Lex (The Lex), Monday, 12 September 2005 10:07 (twenty years ago)

doglatin - one of the bus hijacks was in Bangor. I'm sure she's fine though, I think the only people injured have been police and soldiers and the retards involved.

Crackity (Crackity Jones), Monday, 12 September 2005 10:27 (twenty years ago)

hey Kate, i finally figured out my Jag problem - the magnets on the pickups were pulling too hard on the low E and making it all wibblywobbly (technical term, obv).

on saturday i ordered new phat pickups. the stock ones feed back (screamy style) way too much and were pretty weak. i am p1mp1ng my jag, yo. bodykit next. like a tail or something.

g-kit (g-kit), Monday, 12 September 2005 11:05 (twenty years ago)

Ah, that would make sense, Greg. But awwww, I thought the whole point was the lovely pickups. But then again, that's why I have a Jazzmaster and not a Jag - for the lovey big pickups.

Luminiferous Aether (kate), Monday, 12 September 2005 11:06 (twenty years ago)

Afternoon coffee time. And then I will FINALLY sit down and do some work. Honest.

Luminiferous Aether (kate), Monday, 12 September 2005 11:08 (twenty years ago)

yeah, i hear the US Jag pickups are sweet, but my jag is crafted in japan - the CIJ pickups are legendarily weak and screamy (not wax-dipped, apparantly). the ones i ordered are very much based on US Jag pups but with lots more output and wax sealing.

g-kit (g-kit), Monday, 12 September 2005 11:09 (twenty years ago)

(also, i always thought the point of Jags was that they LOOK SEX. seriously, sometimes i want to hump it.)

g-kit (g-kit), Monday, 12 September 2005 11:12 (twenty years ago)

Eeep! I just realised I forgot to do the creditcard transactions this morning! And here was I thinking it was slow for a Monday...

I like Jaguars, I always have. But when it came down to it, I just think that the Jazzmaster looked so much sexier with its big pickups. Yes, I have spent the night with it in bed next to me, why do you ask?

Luminiferous Aether (kate), Monday, 12 September 2005 11:15 (twenty years ago)

um... so i know that i'm not the only one?

g-kit (g-kit), Monday, 12 September 2005 11:16 (twenty years ago)

I think it's perfectly normal. ;-)

Luminiferous Aether (kate), Monday, 12 September 2005 11:16 (twenty years ago)

Cannot... keep... my mind... on work...

Luminiferous Aether (kate), Monday, 12 September 2005 11:46 (twenty years ago)

cannot.. stop.. sneezing :(

g-kit (g-kit), Monday, 12 September 2005 11:47 (twenty years ago)

Me neither, Kate. I'm kind of divided between a) the cricket b) the horn. Damn being single.

Greg: I couldn't stop sneezing either all weekend, but it seems to have cleared up a bit now.

Forest Pines (ForestPines), Monday, 12 September 2005 11:48 (twenty years ago)

Not being troubled too much by the horn at the moment. My mum (!) actually suggested at the weekend that I should try a dating agency. Oh for f*cks sake... If I wanted to put myself through that kind of hell, I'd go on job interviews for fun. Anyway... must try and at least get these creditcards handled by this afternoon.

Luminiferous Aether (kate), Monday, 12 September 2005 11:50 (twenty years ago)

hey my ranger friend hosts bat walks, he's always carrying his echo-sonic-thingummujiggy around with him. He also has a cool little local electric shock gizmo for fly bites.

i stayed in all weekend like the boring trump i am. i need the detox tho and for once i feel great on a first day back at work.

i have the house to myself this week so nude ironing will be on the cards tonight.

Ste (Fuzzy), Monday, 12 September 2005 11:53 (twenty years ago)

Be careful not to burn yourself!

Forest Pines (ForestPines), Monday, 12 September 2005 11:55 (twenty years ago)

I've only recently started ironing again. Must have something to do with all my Liberty shirts, which only look good freshly pressed. Is it really that much better to iron in the nude?

(Bear in mind, I don't like being nude.)

Luminiferous Aether (kate), Monday, 12 September 2005 11:57 (twenty years ago)

it's just the fact that it's very warm and once I've taken work clothes off, switched telly on for cricket, made brew. i don't have much reason to put any more clothes on.

Ste (Fuzzy), Monday, 12 September 2005 11:59 (twenty years ago)

Eeek, a naturist!!!


*hides*

Forest Pines (ForestPines), Monday, 12 September 2005 12:00 (twenty years ago)

I wonder what would happen if you used a Bat Detector on a cat?

And here Kate began to get rather sleepy, and went on saying to herself, in a dreamy sort of way, `Do cat detectors detect bats? Do cat detectors detect bats?' and sometimes, `Do bat detectors detect cats?' for, you see, as she couldn't answer either question, it didn't much matter which way she put it.

Come Back Johnny B (Johnney B), Monday, 12 September 2005 13:41 (twenty years ago)

ha ha ha, I like that idea.

I'm feeling very sleepy as a matter of fact. Perhaps I will nod off at the computer and dream of falling down a very very long bus ride and wake up in a strange world made all of glass and water where people detect bats with cat detectors.

Smug and Pious (kate), Monday, 12 September 2005 13:43 (twenty years ago)

a batwalk sounds like the best thing ever! i had a "pet" bat once. or he had me.

ai lien (kold_krush), Monday, 12 September 2005 13:43 (twenty years ago)

!!!

g-kit (g-kit), Monday, 12 September 2005 13:46 (twenty years ago)

Great, now I've got Norwegian Wood stuck in my head. ;-)

Better than morning wood, I suppose.

Smug and Pious (kate), Monday, 12 September 2005 13:48 (twenty years ago)

!!!!!11

g-kit (g-kit), Monday, 12 September 2005 13:51 (twenty years ago)

i remember killing a bat in error once. i threw a stick into a lake and it struck a bat in the air, i saw it land in the water. it swam to shore, it was a tiny pipistrelle. i was only young and i tried to nurse it better but it died.

Ste (Fuzzy), Monday, 12 September 2005 13:52 (twenty years ago)

Argg, stupid Citrix crashing in the middle of a post...

I was singing "I once had a bat, or should I say, she once had me" and shouting at Ste that it's very very illegal to kill or otherwise tamper with bats. The bloke who led our walk was a LISENCED BAT WORKER and told us so.

Smug and Pious (kate), Monday, 12 September 2005 13:57 (twenty years ago)

license to bat!

g-kit (g-kit), Monday, 12 September 2005 14:00 (twenty years ago)

yes they're protected, believe me i have had ear ache from my ranger friend about it many a drunken night in the pub.

Ste (Fuzzy), Monday, 12 September 2005 14:00 (twenty years ago)

he's a ranger? what level?

g-kit (g-kit), Monday, 12 September 2005 14:01 (twenty years ago)

oh i don't know anything like that. but i'll ask him the next time i see him.

Ste (Fuzzy), Monday, 12 September 2005 14:06 (twenty years ago)

I can't help but think of Marcus on Babylon 5 whenever anyone talks about rangers.

Smug and Pious (kate), Monday, 12 September 2005 14:07 (twenty years ago)

ok... also ask him: does he multiclass? what's his favoured enemy?

g-kit (g-kit), Monday, 12 September 2005 14:08 (twenty years ago)

oh i see...

(penny drops)

Ste (Fuzzy), Monday, 12 September 2005 14:09 (twenty years ago)

woohoo!

g-kit (g-kit), Monday, 12 September 2005 14:10 (twenty years ago)

What? I don't understand. Is that something D&D?

Why can't I find a picture of Richard Harris in Mutiny on the Bounty on the interweb? Life isn't fair. I suppose I'll just have to get back to work, then.

Smug and Pious (kate), Monday, 12 September 2005 14:14 (twenty years ago)

i feel so, so used.

xp

Ste (Fuzzy), Monday, 12 September 2005 14:14 (twenty years ago)

yes, this is something D&D. sorry to geekify your thread. again.

g-kit (g-kit), Monday, 12 September 2005 14:29 (twenty years ago)

plz dun ban me for talking about D&D.

g-kit (g-kit), Monday, 12 September 2005 14:30 (twenty years ago)

ban him Kate, he made a FOOL out of me!

Ste (Fuzzy), Monday, 12 September 2005 14:35 (twenty years ago)

dude! i totally SAVED you from making a fool of yourself. you should be thanking me. i took it a step further to try to clue you in, rather than let you go meet your friend and be all like "so, you know you're a ranger.. what level are you?"

you OWE me.

g-kit (g-kit), Monday, 12 September 2005 14:37 (twenty years ago)

haha he probly would've punched me in the face.

yes, thank you.

Ste (Fuzzy), Monday, 12 September 2005 14:45 (twenty years ago)

I am suddenly inexplicably cranky. Don't know if it's low blood sugar or this stupid database refusing to return any records or what. Grrrrrr.

Smug and Pious (kate), Monday, 12 September 2005 15:01 (twenty years ago)

And this is the closest I can find:

http://www.moviemarket.co.uk/library/photosets/color/852852-1.jpg

Smug and Pious (kate), Monday, 12 September 2005 15:15 (twenty years ago)

Blah. Stupid busses. Stupid cornershop whose buspass machine wasn't working.

My headache has finally gone but it's been replaced by a low-level stomach ache. Is this what old age feels like, when every day a new little thing goes wrong?

In other news, I finally caught a bit of whassisname (I want to say Richard Starkey, but isn't that Ringo's real name?) and his thing about the British monarchy. Oh those naughty Tudors, etc. etc. At least I've finally sorted out the Lancaster = Red, York = white dilemma and know which way round to name my rosebushes.

Smug and Pious (kate), Tuesday, 13 September 2005 07:04 (twenty years ago)

This from a woman who spent six months living in White Rose House above a certain pub ;-).

suzy (suzy), Tuesday, 13 September 2005 07:11 (twenty years ago)

Leave me alone, I'm colourblind!

(Do you know, I never actually connected the name of the house and the name of the pub? Especially as the pub was BRIGHT RED.)

((On an aside, the historical reenactor they got to play Richard III was HOTT!))

Smug and Pious (kate), Tuesday, 13 September 2005 07:13 (twenty years ago)

Where do you suppose they find historical reenactors anyway? Is there an agency?

On the Historical Maritime Society website there's a little blurb about all the films and documentaries they've been in.

Smug and Pious (kate), Tuesday, 13 September 2005 07:26 (twenty years ago)

there are reenactment societies. lots of them for all kinds of periods.

g-kit (g-kit), Tuesday, 13 September 2005 07:43 (twenty years ago)

No, I know that. I even have friends that belong to some. But what I would want to know is, if you're the casting director for a historical documentary, how do you get in touch in them? There's got to be an agency you can ring up and say "I need 3 Tudor kings, a bevy of Roundheads, a gaggle of Regency dandys and a couple of Victorian Prime Ministers."

(Yes, this is for a historical documentary, honest, and not for some depraved sexual fantasy, honest.)

Smug and Pious (kate), Tuesday, 13 September 2005 07:46 (twenty years ago)

http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a59/gregkitten/emsnap.jpg
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http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a59/gregkitten/ems1.jpg
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http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a59/gregkitten/emspic3.jpg

oh, er... i guess they're in the phonebook. i see them at exhibitions and stuff.

g-kit (g-kit), Tuesday, 13 September 2005 07:48 (twenty years ago)

I can only think of Jeremy (L)Irons' quote in the Guardian Guide article about costume dramas about the "summer of having facial hair applied and ripped off."

Smug and Pious (kate), Tuesday, 13 September 2005 07:50 (twenty years ago)

Hello
New boss at work (part time) – spent all yesterday in meetings. You miss a day on ILE, come back feeling like Rip van Winkle.

beanz (beanz), Tuesday, 13 September 2005 07:51 (twenty years ago)

Oh no, what did you miss while you were asleep? I'm trying to think of anything important that happened yesterday. The FAP tonight was moved from the Lyceum to the Bloomsbury. Redheaded girls *do* feel pain after all (or at least temperature extremes). Can't remember much else.

Smug and Pious (kate), Tuesday, 13 September 2005 07:54 (twenty years ago)

we learned that Ste lives in a fantasy role-play world.

g-kit (g-kit), Tuesday, 13 September 2005 07:57 (twenty years ago)

I don't know! Can't read a whole day's worth!
New Guardian format – everything's been said already so no need to post to that... Um...

"learn" xpost

beanz (beanz), Tuesday, 13 September 2005 07:59 (twenty years ago)

I'm looking at houses all week - my word, I hate moving, it's rubbish. We looked at aplace last night, and it seemed very nice, and the bedrooms were fabulous, but the parking was terrible and Richard would have no-where to park his ambulance.

Come Back Johnny B (Johnney B), Tuesday, 13 September 2005 08:04 (twenty years ago)

You're moving *again*, Johnney? But you only just moved!

Argh, I just called into the office and got given this huge project because even though the old system doesn't balance, and we KNOW it doesn't balance and I've been telling them since I started that it doesn't balance - now it seems that the NEW system isn't balancing.

I told them that if that was true, I'd quit. Argh. So now I better check it. Shout at me if you see me goofing off on ILX except at lunch.

Smug and Pious (kate), Tuesday, 13 September 2005 08:23 (twenty years ago)

Oh, you'll be fine.

Yeh, Richard has come up with the plan of renting a house as opposed to rooms in a house, since this is cheaper. We've got 4 people and we're looking for somewhere now. We're seeing a house every night this week, so hopefully we'll find somewhere nice.

Come Back Johnny B (Johnney B), Tuesday, 13 September 2005 09:16 (twenty years ago)

I'm seeing a flat tomorrow. Excited as it's back in my old neighbourhood round the corner from Sunny Foods (best shop ever). Unless I get called to go to court instead, which could happen at any time this week, oh joy...

Round our watercooler today: gosh wasn't it DARK this morning? I woke up and thought it was 5am and it was really 7! It came on so suddenly! Ooh I hate winter, me. Grr, it's all cold. Thought it was supposed to be sunny today? Grr.

Archel (Archel), Tuesday, 13 September 2005 09:46 (twenty years ago)

I've decided to take my lunch now, because this report - which should have been a 10 minute job - has taken hours, mainly because the original report was so f*cked up. There were no totals on it. reports should have totals. So why aren't there? Because the original report designer decided it was too difficult. SO NOW I'M STUCK WITH DOING IT!!! ARRRGGGHHHH!!!

Anyway, erm, yes, blimey it's getting dark early and it's not light when I wake up which is disturbing. I cannot believe how quickly the day is going, and I've done nothing and I've not even been on ILX! Bah!

Smug and Pious (kate), Tuesday, 13 September 2005 10:48 (twenty years ago)

Everyone knows that ILX helps you work, it's a catalyst for your brane.

Come Back Johnny B (Johnney B), Tuesday, 13 September 2005 10:52 (twenty years ago)

I am so wound up right now it isn't funny. I really really need to take a break. Deep breath, relax, etc. because I feel like throwing stuff. Not sure if this is a bad medication day related phenomenon. Haven't had any SSRIs in two days and I don't know if it's withdrawl or perhaps I really am a mentalist and I really do need them. :-(

I love the winter, I love when it gets cold so I can wear more clothes, and it gets dark so there's no nasty sun to make me hot.

Archel, why are *you* moving? Everyone is moving. I want in on the action but then I remember how much I hate moving.

Smug and Pious (kate), Tuesday, 13 September 2005 11:06 (twenty years ago)

I hate moving too, and part of me thinks that planning to do it while also in the middle of writing a dissertation is just stupid. But we might not actually find anywhere (we don't want to change agents so are stuck with their selection) - just constantly on the look out because our current flat is essentially a hole in the ground.

Archel (Archel), Tuesday, 13 September 2005 11:28 (twenty years ago)

Was this originally a parody thread, or an honest (and horribly succesful) attempt to reproduce the TITTWIS threads for a local audience?

Andrew Farrell (afarrell), Tuesday, 13 September 2005 11:30 (twenty years ago)

part of me thinks that planning to do it while also in the middle of writing a dissertation is just stupid.

I suspect that you are right there. But then again if you don't really want to be doing your dissertation, moving is a fantastic procrasturbation technique - or maybe the other way around, that moving will sharpen your focus and your awareness of deadlines.

Andrew, did it not dawn on you that perhaps a thread might be conceived as a thing in and of itself, fulfilling a need that was not quite fulfilled elsewhere?

Smug and Pious (kate), Tuesday, 13 September 2005 11:33 (twenty years ago)

I am mainly scared I will lose some vital journal article in the process. But OTOH maybe if we move to a lovely new place it will fill me with motivation.

Archel (Archel), Tuesday, 13 September 2005 11:35 (twenty years ago)

I find moving to a new place fills me with motivation... to decorate and reorganise and put up posters and wallpaper and alphabetise my record collection!

But perhaps you are more dedicated than I. Speaking of which, I must get back to work now. :-(

Smug and Pious (kate), Tuesday, 13 September 2005 11:37 (twenty years ago)

Like Andrew I interpreted this thread as just a duplicate TITTWIS.

Sociah T Azzahole (blueski), Tuesday, 13 September 2005 11:37 (twenty years ago)

Perhaps you should stop interpreting and start participating instead!

Smug and Pious (kate), Tuesday, 13 September 2005 11:39 (twenty years ago)

pwned.

g-kit (g-kit), Tuesday, 13 September 2005 11:40 (twenty years ago)

Oh the pain.

Sociah T Azzahole (blueski), Tuesday, 13 September 2005 11:43 (twenty years ago)

PEOPLE BE TALKING ABOUT STUFF.

Archel (Archel), Tuesday, 13 September 2005 11:44 (twenty years ago)

why analyse? just post.

Ste (Fuzzy), Tuesday, 13 September 2005 11:59 (twenty years ago)

I like analysis. But not unnecessary meta-ism.

Archel (Archel), Tuesday, 13 September 2005 12:04 (twenty years ago)

I'd like a drink of water

RJG (RJG), Tuesday, 13 September 2005 12:08 (twenty years ago)

i'd like a drink of b33r.

g-kit (g-kit), Tuesday, 13 September 2005 12:10 (twenty years ago)

Well it's all relative. I like observation. I shouldn't post here at all though because I don't on TITTWIS either and this would be too great an inconsistency. I think I might get away with it, this time.

Sociah T Azzahole (blueski), Tuesday, 13 September 2005 12:11 (twenty years ago)

I'm scared of TITTWIS. It looks big and scary and filled with in-jokes, and not in a good way. This is fine! Leave the thread alone!

I've just been down pubfor lunch, and had b33r. Also had chips&gravy, even though they didn't have any gravy on the menu! Get in!

Come Back Johnny B (Johnney B), Tuesday, 13 September 2005 12:18 (twenty years ago)

Why keep comparing this thread to another? It is a thread in and of itself. If you feel like contributing with inane or pithy watercooler type chatter, then go ahead and do so.

If all you want to do is natter about whether or not this thread is like another and if you should post on it or not, kindly refrain.

Anyway, I would like a cup of coffee but I daren't in my sort of edgy mood. Though perhaps coffee might be just the thing.

I think I am going to put this report away and concentrate on the horrible recconcilliation which is going to take the rest of the afternoon, as the sooner I get started on that, the better.

x-post, mmmmm, gravy. I could really do with some chips and gravy. Though I suspect all I will get this afternoon is beer.

Smug and Pious (kate), Tuesday, 13 September 2005 12:20 (twenty years ago)

Accounting recconcilliation before anyone thinks this is something to do with that "SEX WITH YOUR EX" thread.

Smug and Pious (kate), Tuesday, 13 September 2005 12:21 (twenty years ago)

Wow did you have some kind of secret signal for getting gravy?

Archel (Archel), Tuesday, 13 September 2005 12:22 (twenty years ago)

I'm scared of TITTWIS. It looks big and scary and filled with in-jokes, and not in a good way.

Ha ha, this is exactly what TITTWIS people said about ILE hence TITTWIS.

This surely qualifies as inane, pithy chatter anyway.

Sociah T Azzahole (blueski), Tuesday, 13 September 2005 12:23 (twenty years ago)

inane, pithy chatter is why i dig ILE. if there were none, there would be no g-kit. testify!

g-kit (g-kit), Tuesday, 13 September 2005 12:28 (twenty years ago)

Kill all hippies! Destroy! Movin' on up now! We wanna be free... to do what we wanna...

Oh, wait, sorry, I thought you said "Testifyin' Bobby G" - never mind.

Smug and Pious (kate), Tuesday, 13 September 2005 12:29 (twenty years ago)

Inane, pithy meta-chat maybe.

Asking "Have you got any gravy out back, and can I have it on my chips please?" and a bit of self-deprecating begging was all that was needed. Being nice to people can get them to do all sorts of things for you.

xpost

Kate, that's poor, even by ILX standards.

Come Back Johnny B (Johnney B), Tuesday, 13 September 2005 12:31 (twenty years ago)

there's never anybody around our water cooler here. I just tend to stand there and hiss at all the people who try and fill their litre bottles from it.

Ste (Fuzzy), Tuesday, 13 September 2005 12:34 (twenty years ago)

We don't even HAVE a water cooler here. We've got one of those nifty machines that take the water from the tap and "purifies" it by blasting ion cannons at it.

Come Back Johnny B (Johnney B), Tuesday, 13 September 2005 12:35 (twenty years ago)

i just drink teh tap water and ingest all teh m1nd c0ntr0lz0r drugz that they put in their. i'm not scared! *shakes fist and barks at the Moon*

g-kit (g-kit), Tuesday, 13 September 2005 12:38 (twenty years ago)

*kitten turns into wolf at full moon*

Come Back Johnny B (Johnney B), Tuesday, 13 September 2005 12:41 (twenty years ago)

hehe, Moon.

g-kit (g-kit), Tuesday, 13 September 2005 12:44 (twenty years ago)

I've no idea wheeeeerrrreee the water in the coffee machine comes from. What if it's just hooked up to the mains? Or... even worse ...the River Fleet! As I swear the Old Bourne flows near this building! (Ok, about 200 yards up the street, but still.)

Smug and Pious (kate), Tuesday, 13 September 2005 12:55 (twenty years ago)

In fairness, I doubt the water in your coffe machine comes from anywhere but the mains. Unless you WANT it to, in which case it's probably bought in by dirty dronerock pirates, or something.

Come Back Johnny B (Johnney B), Tuesday, 13 September 2005 13:01 (twenty years ago)

i should think it probably is, aye.

g-kit (g-kit), Tuesday, 13 September 2005 13:03 (twenty years ago)

DIRTY DRONEROCK COFFEE FROM THE SPANISH MAINS!!!

Pieces of caffeine, pieces of caffeine...

Oh dear. Too much coffee. I had to send myself an email and started chanting out loud "KMF IS GONNA ROCK YA!!! UH-HUH UH-HUH UH-HUH UH-HUH - ANCIENT AND GROOVY!!!" (Yes, I know those words are wrong, but it's my personal version of the song.)

Good thing everyone else was too busy in their meeting to notice. :-)

Smug and Pious (kate), Tuesday, 13 September 2005 13:04 (twenty years ago)

your new screen name makes me want pie.

g-kit (g-kit), Tuesday, 13 September 2005 13:06 (twenty years ago)

Mmmm, pie.

Now does my screen name make you wanna take out a mortgage? Uh-huh uh-huh uh-huh uh-huh!

Ancients of LAUTRO (kate), Tuesday, 13 September 2005 13:11 (twenty years ago)

But there's already a massive series of threads full of watercooler nonsense on ILX (which the UK in the title here is surely in opposition to), complaining about being compared to them is like Muse going "I don't see why everyone has to bring up Radiohead all the time..."

Andrew Farrell (afarrell), Tuesday, 13 September 2005 13:15 (twenty years ago)

Walk away son...

Sociah T Azzahole (blueski), Tuesday, 13 September 2005 13:22 (twenty years ago)

i'm sure someone just trumped in our office

Ste (Fuzzy), Tuesday, 13 September 2005 13:24 (twenty years ago)

As was pointed out upthread, TITTWIS has become too big and intimidating for some ILXors so they have started their own equivalent. I will now demonstrate this process to you via the use of this pictorial representation.

http://im.edirectory.co.uk/products/61/i/mpm5.jpg

Sociah T Azzahole (blueski), Tuesday, 13 September 2005 13:24 (twenty years ago)

Don't fancy yours much.

Sociah T Azzahole (blueski), Tuesday, 13 September 2005 13:25 (twenty years ago)

I saw some russina dolls in Oxfam last week, but using presidents of the USSR. They conveniently missed out Stalin, however.

Come Back Johnny B (Johnney B), Tuesday, 13 September 2005 13:28 (twenty years ago)

Putin is presumably the size of a peanut?

Sociah T Azzahole (blueski), Tuesday, 13 September 2005 13:31 (twenty years ago)

Look, I don't mean to be an asshole, but GET THE FUCK OFF THIS THREAD IF ALL YOU WANT TO DO IS COMPLAIN ABOUT ITS EXISTENCE!!!

Why are there already 10 billion football threads? Or separate cricket and football threads? It's all fucking sport, isn't it?

Ancients of LAUTRO (kate), Tuesday, 13 September 2005 13:37 (twenty years ago)

pwned.

g-kit (g-kit), Tuesday, 13 September 2005 13:38 (twenty years ago)

Thanks. Now I am thoroughly pissed off, when all I wanted was a nice friendly thread to blow off steam.

Ancients of LAUTRO (kate), Tuesday, 13 September 2005 13:38 (twenty years ago)

actually i think it was just the chair

Ste (Fuzzy), Tuesday, 13 September 2005 13:40 (twenty years ago)

i still reckon it's nice and friendly.
but i didn't eat my lunch, so i'm not thinking so good.

g-kit (g-kit), Tuesday, 13 September 2005 13:43 (twenty years ago)

I found the Russian doll presidents anyway. I think they have the size order completely the wrong way round. The Stalin is actually rather cute.

Sociah T Azzahole (blueski), Tuesday, 13 September 2005 13:44 (twenty years ago)

why didn't you eat lunch? was it all just go go go ?

Ste (Fuzzy), Tuesday, 13 September 2005 13:45 (twenty years ago)

I feel like smashing someone over the head with a chair right now.

This huge rec I've been doing all day... turns out it was all wrong BECAUSE THEY WERE LOOKING AT THE WRONG REPORT!!! Instead of waiting till I'd run the End of Month RAF and archived it, they just opened up the first report they saw on the morning of 1st September and used that even though the last day of the month (busiest day) WAS NOT ON IT YET!!! No wonder the things don't balance.

Not to mention one of the finance people totally neglecting to update an entire weekend's worth of extracts.

This makes me want to smash things.

Ancients of LAUTRO (kate), Tuesday, 13 September 2005 13:46 (twenty years ago)

just didn't fancy it.

er, xpost.

g-kit (g-kit), Tuesday, 13 September 2005 13:46 (twenty years ago)

SMASH SMASH SMASH!!!

Ancients of LAUTRO (kate), Tuesday, 13 September 2005 13:48 (twenty years ago)

dun smash my lunch! i may have it later!

g-kit (g-kit), Tuesday, 13 September 2005 13:49 (twenty years ago)

xpost
The dolls I saw weren't quite as groovy as those. Yours have got more style and grace. Mine were a bit cheap and didn't fit together properly.

Here you go Kate, have some cake. I made this banana bread this morning, and there's only 2 bits left.

Come Back Johnny B (Johnney B), Tuesday, 13 September 2005 13:50 (twenty years ago)

ONE FOR ME TOO, THEN?

g-kit (g-kit), Tuesday, 13 September 2005 13:51 (twenty years ago)

What is/was your lunch?

I mean, sandwiches don't smash nicely so I wouldn't bother. But if it's a lemon merange pie or something, that will smash very well indeed.

x-post CAKE!!! Even better. Not for smashing, but for eating. Alas, all I have left is an apple.

Ancients of LAUTRO (kate), Tuesday, 13 September 2005 13:51 (twenty years ago)

All cake gone I'm afraid - I had to give some to my boss*2 for suckage purposes.

Come Back Johnny B (Johnney B), Tuesday, 13 September 2005 13:52 (twenty years ago)

fuxache.

oh, my lunch was sandwiches, so no smashy-smashy. unless you mash my crisps. but please don't. i'm getting hungry now.

g-kit (g-kit), Tuesday, 13 September 2005 13:53 (twenty years ago)

Damn. Mashing and smashing a whole bag of crisps would be very very satisfactory.

Ancients of LAUTRO (kate), Tuesday, 13 September 2005 14:05 (twenty years ago)

wtf! i just visited our vending machine. have they changed the name of 'Yorkie's to 'Footie' ? It even had the slogan on the side "She fell over, aahhh". dear god i may never buy these ever again.

Ste (Fuzzy), Tuesday, 13 September 2005 14:08 (twenty years ago)

(the vending machine is next to the watercooler btw)

Ste (Fuzzy), Tuesday, 13 September 2005 14:14 (twenty years ago)

i'm eating my lunch. yum.

g-kit (g-kit), Tuesday, 13 September 2005 14:16 (twenty years ago)

Morning.

Today looks to be as hellish as yesterday. Sigh. Please keep me entertained.

Ancients of LAUTRO (kate), Wednesday, 14 September 2005 06:53 (twenty years ago)

let's place bets on what time i eat my sandwich.

or or or or...

guess what i'm having at 10:30? (hint: it's not a wank, comedy fans)

g-kit (g-kit), Wednesday, 14 September 2005 07:01 (twenty years ago)

Tea? A nap? Being called on the carpet?

Ancients of LAUTRO (kate), Wednesday, 14 September 2005 07:04 (twenty years ago)

ah, i wish it were a nap.
one more guess. it has been mentioned on previous occasions.
you can do it!

g-kit (g-kit), Wednesday, 14 September 2005 07:06 (twenty years ago)

Smashing crisps? Having a beer? Fixing your guitar?

Ancients of LAUTRO (kate), Wednesday, 14 September 2005 07:09 (twenty years ago)

A crisis of confidence?

Crackity (Crackity Jones), Wednesday, 14 September 2005 07:10 (twenty years ago)

cheat! i said ONE guess.

and hey - you're doing this on purpose, picking things that i WANT to do but can't.
xpost.

the answer: big chocolate cookie, yo.

g-kit (g-kit), Wednesday, 14 September 2005 07:11 (twenty years ago)

No! Don't have the cookie! It made you ill last time.

(Man, I wish I had a cookie. In a shocking diversion from form, I am having a packaged vegetable bake instead of hummus and veggies because I was too lazy to walk to Sainsburys at the weekend.)

Ancients of LAUTRO (kate), Wednesday, 14 September 2005 07:13 (twenty years ago)

that was a one-off! today i shall pwn teh cookie.
do not doubt me!

g-kit (g-kit), Wednesday, 14 September 2005 07:22 (twenty years ago)

oh man i was going to *say* big chocolate cookie just then

Ste (Fuzzy), Wednesday, 14 September 2005 07:28 (twenty years ago)

really? what level?

g-kit (g-kit), Wednesday, 14 September 2005 07:30 (twenty years ago)

Back off, bucko, I am a black belt in Big Chocolate Cookie.

(I am now very tempted to go to Sainsburys and get a whole bag of the LUXURY triple chocolate cookies. But that would be bad.)

Ancients of LAUTRO (kate), Wednesday, 14 September 2005 07:32 (twenty years ago)

bad? bad.. er.... shmad.
have a cookie. i have one almost every (weekday) morning. cookie cookie cookie!!

http://www.boingboing.net/images/cookiemonster.jpg

DO IT!

g-kit (g-kit), Wednesday, 14 September 2005 07:36 (twenty years ago)

A water-cooler conversation I wish I could have but can't in real life for obvious reasons:

"Why is everyone who works here an annoying cunt?"

Forest Pines (ForestPines), Wednesday, 14 September 2005 07:38 (twenty years ago)

they're all hepped up on cookies.

g-kit (g-kit), Wednesday, 14 September 2005 07:40 (twenty years ago)

g-kit, a bloke on the bus gave up his seat to me last week because he thought I was pregnant! Now, mind you, I really appreciated having that seat. But if I had cookies every day, I'd look more than pregnant. :-(

I'm lucky in that most of the people I work with are not annoying cunts. I just think that they don't appreciate how much *work* is entailed in setting up the "apparently simple" things they want done. But feel free to bitch, Forest, that's what watercoolers are for.

Ancients of LAUTRO (kate), Wednesday, 14 September 2005 07:42 (twenty years ago)

how you know he thought you were pregnant? maybe he was just being a gentleman.

g-kit (g-kit), Wednesday, 14 September 2005 07:44 (twenty years ago)

Xpost: My co-worker in particular at the moment. Technically he's my line manager, but he hardly ever gives me anything to do - we both rely on our manager to provide what little direction we get. When he *does* tell me to do stuff, though, he does it in a REALLY IRRITATING voice, as if he's ashamed to be doing it. "Um, can you, like, go and do X? [Manager from other department] has been complaining so I said you'd go and do [complete overreaction]."

That's the other thing. Even though he's above me, has more qualifications and experience than me, (presumably) gets paid more than me, he actually knows JACK SHIT about most of the stuff I look after; and a lot of the stuff he's supposed to know about too. Which would be fine, except when he starts trying to reconfigure things, or fix things himself, or tells someone that We'll Definitely Do X; and then I have to clear up the pieces afterwards. Fuckwit.

I just think that they don't appreciate how much *work* is entailed in setting up the "apparently simple" things they want done.

Completely OTM. There's one manager in particular who, if he says "come on it must be easy!" one more time, I think I'll punch. Just because it's easy for you to IMAGINE doesn't mean it's easy to DO, moron.

Forest Pines (ForestPines), Wednesday, 14 September 2005 07:46 (twenty years ago)

Hahaha Kate, there is a long list (theoretically about six billion) of people who are allowed complain about threads not going as they were intended, and you are right at the bottom of that list.

Yours in PLUR,

Andrew Farrell (afarrell), Wednesday, 14 September 2005 08:15 (twenty years ago)

Dear Andrew: KINDLY FUCK OFF. OK, thanx, bye.

Ancients of LAUTRO (kate), Wednesday, 14 September 2005 08:18 (twenty years ago)

I have succeeded in spilling half my cup of mochaccino all over my favourite shirt. :-(

I think I managed to get the stain off, but now I smell of dishwater because the only sponge available was the dish sponge.

I'm feeling very unhappy with ILX at the moment. It seems the more I try to withdraw and keep myself to myself, and not bother anyway, and not get in fights, the more people seem to follow me and poke me with sticks. There is no need to discuss this or analyse this or tell me I'm wrong for feeling this way, it's just how I am feeling.

Ancients of LAUTRO (kate), Wednesday, 14 September 2005 08:22 (twenty years ago)

so have a cookie.

g-kit (g-kit), Wednesday, 14 September 2005 08:26 (twenty years ago)

I don't even want a cookie now. :-(

Ancients of LAUTRO (kate), Wednesday, 14 September 2005 08:28 (twenty years ago)

I'm going to go and do something difficult and complicated and then tell the bankers how difficult and complicated it was so they will thank me and call me clever and then I'll feel good again.

Ancients of LAUTRO (kate), Wednesday, 14 September 2005 08:30 (twenty years ago)

i'll eat my cookie.

g-kit (g-kit), Wednesday, 14 September 2005 08:31 (twenty years ago)

i'll roll the dice.

Ste (Fuzzy), Wednesday, 14 September 2005 08:39 (twenty years ago)

i wrote a song called Level Up (er, for real)

g-kit (g-kit), Wednesday, 14 September 2005 08:43 (twenty years ago)

I'll sail the ship...

x-post. I want my laptop back so I can write songs again. :-(

Ancients of LAUTRO (kate), Wednesday, 14 September 2005 08:46 (twenty years ago)

i'll Sail a Moon (groan)

g-kit (g-kit), Wednesday, 14 September 2005 08:52 (twenty years ago)

Is it...could it be...well, AH NEVAH!

http://www.lavahut.com/scotmuu-bl.jpg

Muu muu! Muu muu!

suzy (suzy), Wednesday, 14 September 2005 08:56 (twenty years ago)

There is a shirt in a fabric remarkably like that thrown over the back of a chair in my kitchen. it seems to wander about the kitchen, sometimes ending up in the washing machine, sometimes ending up on someone's drying rack, but NO ONE seems to know who it belongs to.

Ancients of LAUTRO (kate), Wednesday, 14 September 2005 08:58 (twenty years ago)

it's mine, give it back.

g-kit (g-kit), Wednesday, 14 September 2005 09:02 (twenty years ago)

Yes, but is it JUSTIFIED?

suzy (suzy), Wednesday, 14 September 2005 09:02 (twenty years ago)

That Hawaiian print is never justified! Ow, mine eyes!

(Sayeth the woman wearing a Liberty peacock shirt.)

Ancients of LAUTRO (kate), Wednesday, 14 September 2005 09:06 (twenty years ago)

There are times when I remember quite acutely that I've not got a sense of humour.

Ancients of LAUTRO (kate), Wednesday, 14 September 2005 09:10 (twenty years ago)

I've just come out a meeting with my boss*2. He's a lovely fellow, but our boss is RUBBISH - no respect for team, bullsh1tt1ng boss*2, inability to have any idea what we do etc etc. We we've all gone and spoke to out boss*2, and we spent 2 HOURS going over everything, and he'll be having words when our boss gets back from holidays. SO I'm having quite a good day!

The meeting did, however, have the corollory of making me miss the sandwich man, so I'm now the world's most hungry person. (well maybe not the ABSOLUET hungriest, but at least the joint third most hungry person) so I may have to go up the garage in a minute and buy some food.

You HAVE got a sense of humour, kate. You like my bee jokes, remember!

Come Back Johnny B (Johnney B), Wednesday, 14 September 2005 09:23 (twenty years ago)

ILX often makes me feel like I've not got a sense of humour.

OK, since several people have come on this thread and bitched about it, I feel like I now have a right to bitch about other threads.

I looked at the Excelsior thread thinking "OK, I'm feeling a bit rub, I could do with a laugh" and just read through these examples of "funnies" thinking either "I don't get it" or "that isn't funny" or "that's just cruel - how is that supposed to be amusing?"

Multiple people thought these things were witty, so I come to the conclusion that I don't have a sense of humour. (This has often been noted. I get perplexed more easily than amused. Though I suppose my perplexment causes others amusement. Kind of like the rabbit joke.)

Anyway, I am also hungry. Maybe I should have gone and got a cookie. I suspect my lunch might be a bit rub, though.

Ancients of LAUTRO (kate), Wednesday, 14 September 2005 09:31 (twenty years ago)

I've got no sense of humour when I'm hungry. I've just popped down the garage and bought 2 tubes of pringles, 2 tubes of Jaffa cakes and a ginsters pork roaster. I'll be happy soon.

Come Back Johnny B (Johnney B), Wednesday, 14 September 2005 09:41 (twenty years ago)

i'm thirsty. i think i want b33r again. hmm.

g-kit (g-kit), Wednesday, 14 September 2005 09:42 (twenty years ago)

Mmmm, jaffa cakes. Why didn't I think of that when I was buying my lunch this morning?

("lunch" = 1 Tesco honey mustard chicken pasta snack, 1 packet sweet thai chili crisps, 1 bottle Innocent smoothie)

Forest Pines (ForestPines), Wednesday, 14 September 2005 09:45 (twenty years ago)

i just had another cup of coffee, and am planning to have another at 12:30

GNNNGH!!!

g-kit (g-kit), Wednesday, 14 September 2005 10:01 (twenty years ago)

Aside from the pork, you are all making me SO HUNGRY that I am going to have my lunch early. Except I just remembered I don't like the vegetable bake, they smell funny, it's the mushroom risotto that I like. Boo, hiss, etc.

Oh no, except as I type that, someone else has started using the microwave. bah.

Ancients of LAUTRO (kate), Wednesday, 14 September 2005 10:05 (twenty years ago)

you have a microwave at work? space-age!

g-kit (g-kit), Wednesday, 14 September 2005 10:06 (twenty years ago)

Hey, we have a microwave in both kitchens, and a cooker (I think) and toaster in the big kitchen. Hardly anyone ever uses them, though. Most people go into town for lunch (it's only a couple of miles drive).

Forest Pines (ForestPines), Wednesday, 14 September 2005 10:10 (twenty years ago)

all we have is a kettle.

g-kit (g-kit), Wednesday, 14 September 2005 10:11 (twenty years ago)

We've got a microwave, but no kettle. It was taken away when a doofus poured hot water on themselves. Now we all boil water in the microwave for our cups of tea, hardly helping health and safety. The cynical would point out that taking the kettle away co-incided with the installation by an outside company of coffe machines, but I wouldn't say that they had anything to do with each other, oh no.

Come Back Johnny B (Johnney B), Wednesday, 14 September 2005 10:14 (twenty years ago)

We have a microwave, a kettle, a coffeemaker (which no one can ever be arsed to use) and a coffee machine. Plus a cold drinks machine and a food machine (these two you have to pay for, though.) Bankers like to eat!

My lunch has turned out to be a wild mushroom pasta bake so I was wrong on both counts. A bit unsatisfactory when I was wanting risotto, but the sauce is OK, it tastes of wine.

Ancients of LAUTRO (kate), Wednesday, 14 September 2005 10:16 (twenty years ago)

We have a coffee machine too. However, I worked out that:

a) its tea mings
b) it costs 20p per cup
c) the office drinks club costs £1 per week
d) i drink far more than 1 cup per day, and ideally would like nice tea.

Admittedly, it took me a year to work all this out.

Forest Pines (ForestPines), Wednesday, 14 September 2005 10:19 (twenty years ago)

i decided that i want wet, milky potatoes for lunch (and every meal thereafter, tbh)

g-kit (g-kit), Wednesday, 14 September 2005 10:24 (twenty years ago)

I want b33r for lunch. OFf to the pub I go - ha ha ha! I'm a bit sleepier than I should be now - oh, I'll be fine. B33r is well known for it's waking-up properties.

Come Back Johnny B (Johnney B), Wednesday, 14 September 2005 10:26 (twenty years ago)

i want one...

g-kit (g-kit), Wednesday, 14 September 2005 10:27 (twenty years ago)

(office drinks club FOR REALS? Also any middle manager who has the brainwave to install tea machines which are NOT kettles ought to be taken out and shot)

ESM offices have coffee granules, filter coffee which nobody ever uses, not very nice teabags but they are scared of the BLUE milk there so all tea made there is unsatisfactory.

suzy (suzy), Wednesday, 14 September 2005 10:33 (twenty years ago)

Where does this wet milky potatoes meme come from?

Our machine is free. This is the best thing about this place - but I suppose it would have to be free considering how much they ask us to work late!

Ancients of LAUTRO (kate), Wednesday, 14 September 2005 10:41 (twenty years ago)

someone said it on the cramp thread. it is now my catchphrase.

g-kit (g-kit), Wednesday, 14 September 2005 10:43 (twenty years ago)

office drinks club FOR REALS?

Well, one of the sales assistants has a tub of money, a spreadsheet she uses to mark off who has paid, and goes out to buy coffee, tea, sugar and milk when we're running low.

Also any middle manager who has the brainwave to install tea machines which are NOT kettles ought to be taken out and shot

It's mostly a coffee machine, but it does have rather manky powdered tea in it too.

As the office it's in has been shut down, hardly anyone uses it at all now; and as a result the tea and coffee in it is very manky indeed. The coffee, noticeably, takes a lot longer (and more stirring) to dissolve than it did when fresh.

Forest Pines (ForestPines), Wednesday, 14 September 2005 10:49 (twenty years ago)

I have no lunch and no money :(
I was an hour and a half late for work :(
I hardly slept :(
I still haven't heard about the court case which means it will likely start on Friday now, which is my day off :(
I spent all morning trying to create space for library materials out of thin air and ended up with just a big mess and sweaty armpits :(
And I have no food!

Archel (Archel), Wednesday, 14 September 2005 11:59 (twenty years ago)

I have a sore throat now.

And I'm pissed off and got in a snit at my boss because she dumped YET ANOTHER THING on my desk that had to be done now, now, NOW, meaning that I had to push back another guy's reports YET AGAIN.

So I said to her (because she's supposed to be my line manager and in charge of my workload) "Can you pleased explain that to Other Manager so he doesn't get cross at me cause his stuff isnt' done?" and she went all snotty saying "well, maybe you shouldn't make promises you shouldn't deliver" to which I got really angry and said "WELL ON THE DAY I AGREED TO DO THIS I WAS SITTING AROUND TWIDDLING MY THUMBS WAITIN FOR YOU" and then she started with the "blah blah, half our staff our missing" which I just did the "talk to the hand thing" to because she was out sick last week, meaning I had to pitch in and do accounts...

Anyway, none of that makes any sense, but I feel better for having written it.

I really need cookies now.

Archel, why can't they just tell you when your court case is? Or is it dependent on other court cases and bloody endless recesses and filing motions till tomorrow and all that other stuff I don't understand in Law and Order?

Ancients of LAUTRO (kate), Wednesday, 14 September 2005 12:54 (twenty years ago)

cure-all-cookies.

g-kit (g-kit), Wednesday, 14 September 2005 12:57 (twenty years ago)

I am this close to going and getting Krispy Kreme. But I'm only allowed those on Fridays.

Ancients of LAUTRO (kate), Wednesday, 14 September 2005 12:58 (twenty years ago)

I must be desperate. I am eating last week's stale leaving do cookies that have been sitting out all week. Scary thing is, how *not* stale they are.

Ancients of LAUTRO (kate), Wednesday, 14 September 2005 13:05 (twenty years ago)

haha, excellent. feel better now?

g-kit (g-kit), Wednesday, 14 September 2005 13:06 (twenty years ago)

I managed to afford some crisps!

Kate, yes, they don't know that the previous case will have finished until the day before, I guess.

Archel (Archel), Wednesday, 14 September 2005 13:06 (twenty years ago)

I do actually feel better. Hurrah for cookies! (and crisps)

Archel, make like they did on CSI Ginger last week and KILL THE DEFENDENT FOR MAKING THE CASE DRAG ON SO LONG!!!

(I think I have started to secretly fancy one of the blokes on CSI Ginger. Not Ginger CSI, but the Mysterious New Boy. He's so droll and floppy-haired and black clad. Emo CSI.)

Ancients of LAUTRO (kate), Wednesday, 14 September 2005 13:08 (twenty years ago)

you mean the guy who replaced Speed? i won't watch csi ginger anymore because of his absence

Ste (Fuzzy), Wednesday, 14 September 2005 13:12 (twenty years ago)

Yes, Crystal Meth I shall call him from now on. He is hott. He reminds me of someone I cannot quite put my finger on, and I am sure I will be very embarrassed when I figure it out.

Ancients of LAUTRO (kate), Wednesday, 14 September 2005 13:15 (twenty years ago)

More co-worker gossip:

We have one office here that has 6 people in it all the time and is very busy with phones ringing, people talking, etc. I had to go into it to talk to one of the staff there and sort out an Access database problem she was having. Get back to my desk and there's an email from one of the other women in there, accusing me of falling out with her because "when you were in here you talked to X but you didn't talk to me." For God's sake. Being paranoid about your popularity is going to make you less popular, you idiot. As it happens, I don't like you as much as X, but that's irrelevant because I was talking to X because it's MY JOB. Pillock.

Forest Pines (ForestPines), Wednesday, 14 September 2005 13:47 (twenty years ago)

That sounds bizarre. Maybe you should ask the Office Gossip about it?

j/k! j/k!

::hugglez::

Ancients of LAUTRO (kate), Wednesday, 14 September 2005 13:49 (twenty years ago)

Hahaha, paranoid woman IS the office gossip!

Forest Pines (ForestPines), Wednesday, 14 September 2005 14:23 (twenty years ago)

Spent the whole day so far leaving messages for people who aren't inclined to call me back. I could be posting here productively but instead I have to talk to voicemails.

beanz (beanz), Wednesday, 14 September 2005 14:37 (twenty years ago)

Wish I had some office gossip but I've not been paying attention :(

beanz (beanz), Wednesday, 14 September 2005 14:43 (twenty years ago)

Morning.

I am feeling tired and a bit cranky today. Got too little sleep last night - rehearsal ran over so I didn't even get home until midnight, and I had too much pink and fizzy wine so I feel a bit... thick and blunted.

I discovered some office gossip this morning. Apparently everyone was very impressed that I actually dared to have a go at the boss who was being overly demanding yesterday. (!)

The Brocade Fire (kate), Thursday, 15 September 2005 06:45 (twenty years ago)

haha, congrats!

i have band practice tonight. new song, very exciting!

i might be swapping an old mobile phone handset for that fender mustang bridge i was after. funny how things work out when you post flippant messages in strange places.

g-kit (g-kit), Thursday, 15 September 2005 06:56 (twenty years ago)

Mobile phone for a bridge? What a strange bargain. I think you are coming out of it better, though.

I wonder if my laptop will EVER be fixed. I'm beginnning to get annoyed because it was supposed to be done yesterday and I've heard nothing. Grrr.

The Brocade Fire (kate), Thursday, 15 September 2005 06:58 (twenty years ago)

yeah, strangest coincidence ever. he wanted phone, i wanted mustang bridge. he just gave one away to his mate, but now he's trying to get it back. if today carries on like it has started, this is gonna be a fucked up day.

g-kit (g-kit), Thursday, 15 September 2005 07:06 (twenty years ago)

Just started my first cup of coffee.

I have a headache. Everyone else in my department has been necking codeine. I would fall asleep if I took that in the office. And don't need anything else which is going to lower disinhibitions already made cranky by sleep deprivation.

The Brocade Fire (kate), Thursday, 15 September 2005 08:51 (twenty years ago)

have a cookie.

g-kit (g-kit), Thursday, 15 September 2005 09:02 (twenty years ago)

Do cookies have magical headache-reducing properties?

The Brocade Fire (kate), Thursday, 15 September 2005 09:04 (twenty years ago)

only if you SMASH it and rub it on your scalp. (nb. this may make you look mental)

g-kit (g-kit), Thursday, 15 September 2005 09:08 (twenty years ago)

Then I would have dirty hair as well as a headache. :-(

Someone has f*cked around with the database and taken away the entry screen that I need to do one of the onerous tasks that was landed on my desk.

And my quick fix for the working day in month was not accepted, I am going to have to figure out this horrible bit of code myself. Argh. It is not my day. Whinge, whinge, whinge.

I am also becoming more and more depressed by the girly-relationship-conversations last night.

The Brocade Fire (kate), Thursday, 15 September 2005 09:20 (twenty years ago)

i'm seeing Mudhoney tomorrow!

g-kit (g-kit), Thursday, 15 September 2005 09:28 (twenty years ago)

Is that part of that Don't Look Back series?

The Brocade Fire (kate), Thursday, 15 September 2005 09:31 (twenty years ago)

yes indeed.

g-kit (g-kit), Thursday, 15 September 2005 09:42 (twenty years ago)

Where does this wet milky potatoes meme come from?

Boys' boarding school?

p.s. Archie, if you're online later will you PM me? I need to ask you something - ta!

Markelby (Mark C), Thursday, 15 September 2005 09:48 (twenty years ago)

That's it, I'm sick of umbrellas now.

The Brocade Fire (kate), Thursday, 15 September 2005 10:05 (twenty years ago)

I like unbrellas. If I could have an affectation, it would be carrying around an umbrella wherever.

Oh, working day queries. I get them from time to time. It's horrible. Too many case functions and temp tables - ug.

I occasionally have girly-relationship conversations. You're right, they do get depressing mighty quickly.

Come Back Johnny B (Johnney B), Thursday, 15 September 2005 10:10 (twenty years ago)

my google image search for "sailor moon umbrella" gave poor results.

g-kit (g-kit), Thursday, 15 September 2005 10:14 (twenty years ago)

I like umbrellas, I'm just disturbed that there don't seem to be any threads that aren't about umbrellas.

Now I'm trying to figure out where I've left an open inner join which is upsetting my Iif function. Oh dear.

I am cold as well as headachey now. I never get cold. Maybe I am coming down with something.

After the girly-conversation I resolved to try internet dating for the simple reason to get practise going on dates (view it like a job interview, erally) just to do something about my social phobia, so that if I were actually to meet someone I really wanted to date, I wouldn't be so useless about doing something abotu it.

But then we started talking about Adult Friend Finder and other sexxx only type sites, and I was getting really curious, asking "how specific can you be, can you order up *exactly* the physical parameters of someone you'd like to have casual sex with?" (I'm sure men do it and say things like "big breasted blonde or large-bottomed black woman" or whatever their particular physical fetish happens to be, why shouldn't a woman also say "pointy nose and longish blond hair required"?)

And then I got really depressed that I was even having the conversation. And resolving not to be bothered with any of it. And moaning about how being single was actually my default status, that I wasn't really a relationship kind of person. And then it was straight down Jacob's Ladder to self loathing and angst. Sigh.

The Brocade Fire (kate), Thursday, 15 September 2005 10:19 (twenty years ago)

And now I just want to bash my head against the desk until headache (and head) go away.

Or perhaps one of those pointy glassbreaking things they had on CSI the other night.

The Brocade Fire (kate), Thursday, 15 September 2005 10:21 (twenty years ago)

this is why i have a cookie every day. and 20 cigarettes.

g-kit (g-kit), Thursday, 15 September 2005 10:23 (twenty years ago)

and a bowl of wet, milky potatoes.

g-kit (g-kit), Thursday, 15 September 2005 10:24 (twenty years ago)

There isn't any point to talking about stuff.

There isn't any point to not talking about stuff.

There isn't any point. There isn't any point. There isn't any point.

The Brocade Fire (kate), Thursday, 15 September 2005 10:25 (twenty years ago)

Well we KNOW there isn't any point. The pointlessness IS the point - a lot like ILE, really. You've worked this out by now, I'm sure.

Come Back Johnny B (Johnney B), Thursday, 15 September 2005 10:27 (twenty years ago)

I'm going to go and have lunch now. Enchilladas, I think. Though why I keep the soccer mom station wagon that is my body around to ferry this mind, I'm having my doubts.

The Brocade Fire (kate), Thursday, 15 September 2005 10:27 (twenty years ago)

The problem with thoughtworms is that sometimes you just need to talk them out until they work out their way out on the other side.

How is that kind of site really that much different from male prostitution, in terms of treating sex like some kind of transaction, albeit one without money exchanged?

The Brocade Fire (kate), Thursday, 15 September 2005 10:40 (twenty years ago)

Maybe it will just go away by itself.

The Brocade Fire (kate), Thursday, 15 September 2005 10:48 (twenty years ago)

i'm very confused, so i'm not much help. sorry.

g-kit (g-kit), Thursday, 15 September 2005 10:49 (twenty years ago)

I'm getting stupid annoying autumnal mating urges. I'm not in a relationship, nor do I particularly want to be in a relationship. So I'm debating with myself the moral questionability of obtaining casual sex through strategic channels, or just waiting a few months until the urge goes away again. (Or, indeed, if it would actually go away, or if it gets worse with time. Am I whinging about wanting to get laid more or less than I was a few months ago?)

The Brocade Fire (kate), Thursday, 15 September 2005 10:52 (twenty years ago)

...and this is the kind of thinking that triggered the depression last night and this morning. Why won't it just GO AWAY? Why can't I just be a robot, or a garland plant that can fertilise myself and be perfectly content and happy in my solitude like I would like to be (and am most of the time)?

When will they come up with chemical castration for bored and bitter spinsters?

The Brocade Fire (kate), Thursday, 15 September 2005 10:55 (twenty years ago)

A chastity belt for the mind, more like.

The Brocade Fire (kate), Thursday, 15 September 2005 10:57 (twenty years ago)

(my experience with it so far is that it does get better as time goes on, but then you occasionally get gripped by attacks of sheer desperation)

RickyT (RickyT), Thursday, 15 September 2005 10:58 (twenty years ago)

Perhaps these things get worse when I feel disconnected or alienated from my platonic friends, for whatever reason. :-(

The Brocade Fire (kate), Thursday, 15 September 2005 11:02 (twenty years ago)

I wish I could find a picture of those velvet brocade boots that Anna and I were drooling over last night. That would cheer me up.

The Brocade Fire (kate), Thursday, 15 September 2005 11:18 (twenty years ago)

from observation, it seems that the done thing is to stuff them under the bed with the other 15 pairs that you don't wear. that's what my girlfriend and all her flatmates do.

g-kit (g-kit), Thursday, 15 September 2005 11:26 (twenty years ago)

Why do women shop for shoes when they are depressed?

I suppose it's because it's the only article of clothing which cannot possibly make you feel fat. (Which counteracts the feelgood factor of trying clothes with the aim of boosting your self esteem by looking attractive.)

The Brocade Fire (kate), Thursday, 15 September 2005 11:31 (twenty years ago)

Why do women shop for shoes when they are depressed?

seems to me that they're worried that the bed will collapse.

g-kit (g-kit), Thursday, 15 September 2005 11:32 (twenty years ago)

I shouldn't shop for anything if I'm miserable, even shoes. It starts off ok, then I find myself staring at my massive, ugly reflection in the changing rooms, and I think 'what's the point' and walk out. This is why I don't have many clothes.

suckling pig at a rave (alix), Thursday, 15 September 2005 11:33 (twenty years ago)

Why stop at brocade shoes, why not get some gowns as well:

http://laracorsets.com/images/things.I.built/1820s%20jane%20austin%202-1997%20a.jpg http://laracorsets.com/images/things.I.built/16th%20cen%20tudor%20green%20velvet%205-92%20c.jpg http://laracorsets.com/images/things.I.built/17th%20cen%20red%20brocade%209-99%20a%20jpg.JPG

(I think the key here is that I'm not actually trying anything on but just looking at pictures of the brocade.)

The Brocade Fire (kate), Thursday, 15 September 2005 11:38 (twenty years ago)

Or sod the dress and just buy loads of brocade to leave lying around the house:

http://www.kaanzamaan.co.nz/images/Allepo%20throws%20product%20page%20photo%203.jpg
http://www.kaanzamaan.co.nz/images/Channel%20throw%20photo%204%20PP.jpg
http://www.kaanzamaan.co.nz/images/D%20cc%20rs.jpg
http://www.kaanzamaan.co.nz/images/Silk%20brocade%20shawls%20photo%2010%20PP.jpg

(I used to have loads of this stuff... I wonder where it all went, if my mum threw it out.)

The Brocade Fire (kate), Thursday, 15 September 2005 11:46 (twenty years ago)

Brocade is a good word.

The Brocade Fire (kate), Thursday, 15 September 2005 11:47 (twenty years ago)

i don't have the cleavage to pull that off.

g-kit (g-kit), Thursday, 15 September 2005 11:47 (twenty years ago)

I may have too much. :-(

The Brocade Fire (kate), Thursday, 15 September 2005 11:47 (twenty years ago)

there's no such thing.

g-kit (g-kit), Thursday, 15 September 2005 11:48 (twenty years ago)

Yes there is. They would pop out of the Tudor and Regency costumes. Guess I shall have to go for the red late 17th century buxom wench outfit.

The Brocade Fire (kate), Thursday, 15 September 2005 11:49 (twenty years ago)

No there isn't.

They would pop out of the Tudor and Regency costumes.

EXACTLY.

g-kit (g-kit), Thursday, 15 September 2005 11:51 (twenty years ago)

Gee, thanks, you're doing a great job of distracting me from (lack of) sex.

The Brocade Fire (kate), Thursday, 15 September 2005 11:52 (twenty years ago)

whoopsy.

so... victorian swimming costumes... they're great, huh?

g-kit (g-kit), Thursday, 15 September 2005 11:54 (twenty years ago)

I think I like pictures of material more than pictures of things made from those materials, if you see.

suckling pig at a rave (alix), Thursday, 15 September 2005 11:55 (twenty years ago)

http://www.costume-con.org/CClink/CC07/Photos/images/h04.jpg

The Brocade Fire (kate), Thursday, 15 September 2005 11:55 (twenty years ago)

Is that one of the Krankies?

suckling pig at a rave (alix), Thursday, 15 September 2005 12:00 (twenty years ago)

I've never had a conversation about sex (or lack thereof) at the water cooler before.

I saw a house last night, it was the best thing ever. The kitchen is ENORMOUS = my fave house I've ever seen. SO long as I pass the credit check (I SOOOO hope so) then i'll be happiest man in the world. the rooms are enormous as well - fantastic house!

Come Back Johnny B (Johnney B), Thursday, 15 September 2005 12:12 (twenty years ago)

In other news, I've just been called brilliant and "a star" by the branch manager for showing how to use the drill-down function on Crystal Reports. Duuurrrrrrr.

The Brocade Fire (kate), Thursday, 15 September 2005 13:24 (twenty years ago)

go you!

i wanna go home now. for some reason i am so fucking excited about band practice tonight. i'm all nervous and bouncy. whee!

g-kit (g-kit), Thursday, 15 September 2005 13:41 (twenty years ago)

It's coz you can't wait to play yer JAGUAR.

It's just funny that the simplest little thing (the drill down) is the thing he's so impressed with, when the thing that I agonised over for hour and days (the working days scripts) is almost unnoticable. Sigh. Typical, eh?

The Brocade Fire (kate), Thursday, 15 September 2005 13:45 (twenty years ago)

well, it's all good. i wouldn't mind being called a star for the wrong thing. i'd still be a star, after all.

g-kit (g-kit), Thursday, 15 September 2005 13:50 (twenty years ago)

I know what you mean kate. I write a report - takes me all week to do. I've uncovered over £2.54 million that Br1t1sh G@s should have billed, but haven't. The boss is relitivly unmoved. Put it in a pie char, he goes over the roof.

Come Back Johnny B (Johnney B), Thursday, 15 September 2005 13:55 (twenty years ago)

Everything is better in a pie.

aldo_cowpat (aldo_cowpat), Thursday, 15 September 2005 13:57 (twenty years ago)

so true.
at Reading i went on a PIE QUEST. i wanted to find a savoury pie for dinner and a sweet pie for desert.
tragically, there were NO PIES on the whole site. fuxache.

g-kit (g-kit), Thursday, 15 September 2005 13:58 (twenty years ago)

I think he'd explode if I put a piechart in. There's only one report with a piechart. I hate the things, but for some reason people seem to love them.

In other news, I'm starting to worry that I think I might fancy the bloke out of the Arcade Fire.

The Brocade Fire (kate), Thursday, 15 September 2005 14:18 (twenty years ago)

I've got a non-sexual crush on the lead singer from Franz Ferdinand. He joins a very exclusive of guys I have non-sexual crushes on, including Dylan Moran.

Come Back Johnny B (Johnney B), Thursday, 15 September 2005 14:27 (twenty years ago)

exclusive CLUB of guys

Come Back Johnny B (Johnney B), Thursday, 15 September 2005 14:27 (twenty years ago)

I misread that as exclusive CLUB of gays. ;-)

The Brocade Fire (kate), Thursday, 15 September 2005 14:29 (twenty years ago)

non-sexual crush? you want to have cuddles and conversation?

g-kit (g-kit), Thursday, 15 September 2005 14:34 (twenty years ago)

I would like to momentarily interrupt this crushing to rant

WHY THE HECK DOESN'T THE APPLE STORE ON REGENT STREET LIST THEIR PHONE NUMBER ON THE WEBSITE?!?!? THEY HAVE HAD MY LAPTOP FOR FOR TO LONG AND I NO LONGER BELIEVE THEIR "Oh, we'll call you when it's done" BULLCRAP!!!!

Anyway, now back to the crushing.

The Brocade Fire (kate), Thursday, 15 September 2005 14:36 (twenty years ago)

can i crush an apple?

g-kit (g-kit), Thursday, 15 September 2005 14:38 (twenty years ago)

http://www.apple.com/uk/retail/regentstreet/week/20050911.html

Onimo (GerryNemo), Thursday, 15 September 2005 14:39 (twenty years ago)

Ah, thank you. I'm now in a queue. Sigh. You'd think Apple would have better music on their hold thing. UGH UGH, IT'S PETER GABRIEL, GET IT OFF, GET IT OFF!!!

The Brocade Fire (kate), Thursday, 15 September 2005 14:44 (twenty years ago)

With Kate Bush just to make it more excrutiating.

The Brocade Fire (kate), Thursday, 15 September 2005 14:46 (twenty years ago)

i hear if you phone Michael Jackson and he puts you on hold, his phone plays the Beatles.

i hate Kate Bush.

g-kit (g-kit), Thursday, 15 September 2005 14:47 (twenty years ago)

don't give up

koogs (koogs), Thursday, 15 September 2005 14:49 (twenty years ago)

Don't Give Up

hahaha

Have they changed the chorus to include "Your call is important to us"

Onimo (GerryNemo), Thursday, 15 September 2005 14:51 (twenty years ago)

Bwah hah hah hah hah!

Finally got through to a human being... in Newcastle... to be told to ring back and ask for the shop itself. Sigh. Another ten minutes on hold with rubbish music (not "Don't give up... your call is in a queue" thank f*ck) but now the bloke has to run over to the technical department because they hvae LOST poor little Percy.

The Brocade Fire (kate), Thursday, 15 September 2005 15:00 (twenty years ago)

Oh god, Gorillaz... WHY GOD, WHY?!?!??! DO YOU HATE ME?!?!?

Oh wait, now it's some rubbish electrocrap that's all "the boys hate the girls it's a game we play" - what is this rubbish?

The Brocade Fire (kate), Thursday, 15 September 2005 15:02 (twenty years ago)

I have now been on hold (after speaking to someone) for more than 10 minutes. At what point do I give up and assume they've abandonned my call?

OH GOD WHAT FRESH HELL IS THIS!??!? Do they just pick music based on which electronic tones will sound most irritating through a phone receiver?

The Brocade Fire (kate), Thursday, 15 September 2005 15:09 (twenty years ago)

When it hit 20 minutes, I hung up and dialled back. This is absurd. I freaking hate the Apple Store.

The Brocade Fire (kate), Thursday, 15 September 2005 15:14 (twenty years ago)

THEY LOST IT!!!

THEY ACTUALLY LOST MY BLOODY COMPUTER!!!

And then the guy was "OK, I found it, and I've put it in the repair queue now" which makes me want to say WHAT WOULD YOU HAVE DONE IF I HADN'T RUNG YOU TO FIND OUT ABOUT IT?!?!?

Supposedly it will be ready by tomorrow. I will believe it when I see it. Grrrrrr.

The Brocade Fire (kate), Thursday, 15 September 2005 15:21 (twenty years ago)

So it's Friday now. Yawn.

Let the frittering and senseless flirting and digressions begin...

Please?

The Brocade Fire (kate), Friday, 16 September 2005 06:50 (twenty years ago)

oh my... they lost it? that's so dumb.

g-kit (g-kit), Friday, 16 September 2005 06:53 (twenty years ago)

When they fix a car, they usually give you a courtesy car replacement. Why can't they do the same with a laptop?

The Brocade Fire (kate), Friday, 16 September 2005 06:55 (twenty years ago)

by the time you installed everything, it'd be time to give it back.

when they fix a car, they don't often lose it.

g-kit (g-kit), Friday, 16 September 2005 06:57 (twenty years ago)

Well, all I really *needed* was a word processor (stupid magazine deadlines were in the middle of it getting it fixed) though I could have installed Reason myself...

The Brocade Fire (kate), Friday, 16 September 2005 07:01 (twenty years ago)

This is why I never buy things new and full price, because shops NEVER get this kind of thing right. I've heard rubbish stories about Apple's after sales anyways.

Oh yeh, senseless flirting . . .

Well, hello there! What's a cute girl like you doing standing next to a rubbish water cooler like this?

Come Back Johnny B (Johnney B), Friday, 16 September 2005 07:04 (twenty years ago)

does your coffee machine have a bromide button kate? 8)

koogs (koogs), Friday, 16 September 2005 07:05 (twenty years ago)

If it did I'm sure Kate would have used it by now.

Come Back Johnny B (Johnney B), Friday, 16 September 2005 07:09 (twenty years ago)

What's bromide for? I don't think I understand?

I knew I should have purchased AppleCare and got decent service... but it's out of warrantee and I'm paying through the nose for it anyway! Argh!

Tee hee. I am so burned today that one of the managers came over and thanked me again for that report I did yesterday and I was so scatterbrained, I was all "report? what report? did I make a report for you?"

Oh yes, flirting. Why, hello sailor, do you come here often? Fancy a shot of rum for your water?

The Brocade Fire (kate), Friday, 16 September 2005 07:10 (twenty years ago)

Are you saying that I need agricultural pest control? Why yes, that would probably help with my aphids. But why would I want it in my coffee?

The Brocade Fire (kate), Friday, 16 September 2005 07:12 (twenty years ago)

"hello sailor" = best line ever.

g-kit (g-kit), Friday, 16 September 2005 07:18 (twenty years ago)

Good morning
Work work work work work work work poptimism

beanz (beanz), Friday, 16 September 2005 07:21 (twenty years ago)

What's bromide for? I don't think I understand?

It was rumoured that the British Army put potassium bromide in the soldiers' tea in the late 19th/early 20th centuries to stop them getting horny and partaking in unhealthy trench activities.

Onimo (GerryNemo), Friday, 16 September 2005 07:24 (twenty years ago)

your aphids are fine.

they used to put bromide in the army issue coffee during the war to reduce the soldiers' libido (although, apparently, this was an urban myth and it doesn't even have that kind of effect)

koogs (koogs), Friday, 16 September 2005 07:24 (twenty years ago)

The US Army used (or rather didn't, as that was a myth too) saltpetre in coffee.

Onimo (GerryNemo), Friday, 16 September 2005 07:25 (twenty years ago)

Funny how in the army they (alledgedly) put bromide in the drinks to stop them being randy whereas in the navy they gave them alcohol which you might expect would have the opposite effect.

beanz (beanz), Friday, 16 September 2005 07:26 (twenty years ago)

the conversation ALWAYS comes back round to sailors.

g-kit (g-kit), Friday, 16 September 2005 07:27 (twenty years ago)

No it's not, it's about the army now! (I am wearing my pirate style jacket today but I painted gold braid on it so now it looks like an army uniform. I got all dressed up to try and force me to be in the mood to go to Poptimism.)

Apparently Bromide is just a tranquilliser. I could do with some of that, regardless. Though not right now. I'm already spaced out. I fell asleep halfway through the Stephen Hawking documentary and dreamed of black holes and seem to recall having a phone conversation half in my sleep that may or not have actually happened or just been part of my dream. Now I'm not sure.

The Brocade Fire (kate), Friday, 16 September 2005 07:30 (twenty years ago)

someone said navy! grr.

g-kit (g-kit), Friday, 16 September 2005 07:37 (twenty years ago)

Well, that's depressing. I just checked that stupid online dating thing's inbox and I haven't got one single message. Should I not have put my real age? Should I just give up and delete the whole profile now because if this goes on, I really will become depressed. I did this to increase my self esteem, not destroy it. Sigh.

The Brocade Fire (kate), Friday, 16 September 2005 07:40 (twenty years ago)

how long has it been?

g-kit (g-kit), Friday, 16 September 2005 07:42 (twenty years ago)

About 12 hours.

I did this last year, and I had half a dozen responses in that time.

I suck. :-(

The Brocade Fire (kate), Friday, 16 September 2005 07:44 (twenty years ago)

Everyone goes out on Thursday nights. Give it a few days shirley

beanz (beanz), Friday, 16 September 2005 07:45 (twenty years ago)

12 hours!
cmon, give it a whole day, at the very least.
had i done this, i wouldn't expect anything for days and days...
i only get about one email a week as it is. seriously.
give it time.

g-kit (g-kit), Friday, 16 September 2005 07:50 (twenty years ago)

I'm just judging it by previous experience. I should have lied about my age. :-(

Men my own age don't want to date women my age, they want to date 25 year olds. Sigh.

The Brocade Fire (kate), Friday, 16 September 2005 07:53 (twenty years ago)

well, it was only last year... if you've aged more than a year, there's something amiss.

g-kit (g-kit), Friday, 16 September 2005 07:59 (twenty years ago)

Internet dating sites are such a depressing experience. I went on that 0KCup1d a year or so ago, and I ended up with goths and nutters. Every close match with me was a sodding goth - what's going on? I don't want to date a goth!

But don't lie about stuff on dating sites, you'll get found out. Remember the kid at school who bragged about his new toys? Eventually it was found out that he didn't have them and was just lying to impress people - it embarassed everyone. "A lie keeps growing and growing until it's as plain as the nose on your face."

Come Back Johnny B (Johnney B), Friday, 16 September 2005 08:00 (twenty years ago)

i'd date a goth. Mmmm, Ally Sheedy rowrrr.

g-kit (g-kit), Friday, 16 September 2005 08:02 (twenty years ago)

I've always lied about my age as a matter of course. I was 22 for 11 years. Then I started being 33. So yes, I have "aged" 2 years in a year.

The Brocade Fire (kate), Friday, 16 September 2005 08:06 (twenty years ago)

ah... well, shut my mouth.

g-kit (g-kit), Friday, 16 September 2005 08:07 (twenty years ago)

A goth would be fine. So long as it was an Old Skool goff with Bauhaus records, in fact, that'd be great, he could borrow my frock coats.

Maybe I picked a silly name. But the few names I picked were taken and there's no way to change it now.

The Brocade Fire (kate), Friday, 16 September 2005 08:08 (twenty years ago)

can't be much sillier than my name. wait, you have to make up a name? that's so cool!

g-kit (g-kit), Friday, 16 September 2005 08:10 (twenty years ago)

in my years on ok cupid i never once had a mail or woo. yes this enhanced my confidence no end.

Ste (Fuzzy), Friday, 16 September 2005 08:13 (twenty years ago)

see? i'm sure the same would happen to me if i tried.
i reckon i don't look like much fun on paper. in real life, i'm a RIOT, obv.

g-kit (g-kit), Friday, 16 September 2005 08:16 (twenty years ago)

It's different for women. I've tried online dating a couple of times in various countries, and usually you get tons of replies, usually from idiots who haven't even read your profile, just because you're female and available.

The Brocade Fire (kate), Friday, 16 September 2005 08:23 (twenty years ago)

Anyway, let's not talk about this any more, it's just depressing me. Even my matches have changed over night - last night there were a couple that looked interesting, now even the people they are suggesting I be set up with just look totally inappropriate.

The Brocade Fire (kate), Friday, 16 September 2005 08:24 (twenty years ago)

you wanna steer clear of couples. hahahahaha! fuck, that was lame.

g-kit (g-kit), Friday, 16 September 2005 08:27 (twenty years ago)

Ha ha. I kept clicking the "no, I'm not interested in threesomes, been there, done that, got the t-shirt and the person at the apex of the love triangle cut it up with scissors!" option when asked about couples.

Last night there was a really cute boy who listed a bunch of shoegazer bands and was wearing a paisley shirt and I was all "get in!" but now even his profile has disappeared.

The Brocade Fire (kate), Friday, 16 September 2005 08:29 (twenty years ago)

don't worry, he was probably twee.

g-kit (g-kit), Friday, 16 September 2005 08:32 (twenty years ago)

Is it time for my coffee yet? Do you have a cookie today? I'm waiting for lunch to get my halloumi sandwich and a krispy kreme.

The Brocade Fire (kate), Friday, 16 September 2005 08:35 (twenty years ago)

yes, i'm eating my cookie right now. hoorah!

g-kit (g-kit), Friday, 16 September 2005 08:39 (twenty years ago)

Where do you get this endless supply of cookies? I can never keep cookies around for very long. if any survive the first day, I wake up in the middle of the night and devour what's left.

The Brocade Fire (kate), Friday, 16 September 2005 08:40 (twenty years ago)

i have a cookie delivered every day. there's a sandwich-lady-in-a-van that comes round the offices. she also has cookies.

g-kit (g-kit), Friday, 16 September 2005 08:42 (twenty years ago)

i bought a large choc chip cookie from the train station yesterday, and immediately thought about this thread. pwned!

Ste (Fuzzy), Friday, 16 September 2005 08:42 (twenty years ago)

COOKIE DELIVERIES?!?!?

::boggles::

I just got my coffee. I couldn't find my Aldous Huxley mug at first, but it was in the dishwasher. If I ever leave this job, I'm nicking this mug, I love it so much.

The Brocade Fire (kate), Friday, 16 September 2005 08:48 (twenty years ago)

i don't feel very pwned by that.

g-kit (g-kit), Friday, 16 September 2005 08:48 (twenty years ago)

I think it was the thread that was pwned, not you.

The Brocade Fire (kate), Friday, 16 September 2005 08:49 (twenty years ago)

thread pwned by cookie? omgwtf

i just got Breeders tix. i think.

g-kit (g-kit), Friday, 16 September 2005 08:50 (twenty years ago)

more, I was pwned by the thread. oh nevermind

Ste (Fuzzy), Friday, 16 September 2005 08:52 (twenty years ago)

!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! ::JEALOUS:: x-post tee hee

The Breeders are kick ass live. Lucky you.

Ah, there we go, the boy I fancy's profile is back in my matched list. I just noticed the New Order poster on his wall. He hasn't logged in since Wednesday so he probably didn't see my message. Phew.

I want to upload a better picture but I've not got a scanner. I finally managed to take a quite cute picture the other day - fortunately you can't see the posters on the wall, but you can see a tiny bit of the photo of the Rosicrucian Temple.

The Brocade Fire (kate), Friday, 16 September 2005 08:53 (twenty years ago)

aye, i've seen the Breeders a couple of times.

my girlfriend was Kim Deal's 'best mate for a day' at ATP. ask her about it someday, it's her favourite story. or go read about it in the NME, whatever.

g-kit (g-kit), Friday, 16 September 2005 08:57 (twenty years ago)

Oh my. I've been googling photos of Carlos Barat again and oh my goodness, I need a bromide!

The Brocade Fire (kate), Friday, 16 September 2005 09:20 (twenty years ago)

may i recommend Rum?

g-kit (g-kit), Friday, 16 September 2005 09:26 (twenty years ago)

You're a fool unto yourself.

Come Back Johnny B (Johnney B), Friday, 16 September 2005 09:27 (twenty years ago)

I can hardly start swigging rum at work.

The Brocade Fire (kate), Friday, 16 September 2005 09:27 (twenty years ago)

you so can. you probably shouldn't, but you can.
stick it in an evian bottle and try not to spin around in your chair too much.

g-kit (g-kit), Friday, 16 September 2005 09:28 (twenty years ago)

It would be unseemly. I'm hardly a sailor. This isn't the navy.

yes, I know, you prefer sailor moon....

The Brocade Fire (kate), Friday, 16 September 2005 09:30 (twenty years ago)

my girlfriend was Kim Deal's 'best mate for a day' at ATP. ask her about it someday, it's her favourite story. or go read about it in the NME, whatever.

If it's the day I'm thinking of I think Kim was *everyone's* best mate :-)

Onimo (GerryNemo), Friday, 16 September 2005 09:33 (twenty years ago)

!!!

i think it's a different day.

g-kit (g-kit), Friday, 16 September 2005 09:35 (twenty years ago)

!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Shoegazer boy replied! ::bounce::

I will eat some lunch and try to calm down a bit before I reply so he doesn't think I'm a mentalist. Well, too much of a mentalist at least.

The Brocade Fire (kate), Friday, 16 September 2005 09:38 (twenty years ago)

congrats!

g-kit (g-kit), Friday, 16 September 2005 09:39 (twenty years ago)

Congrats for what? just because he replied doesn't mean I get to make the naked pretzel with him just yet.

Which is exactly the sort of thing that I should NOT say in my reply. ;-)

The Brocade Fire (kate), Friday, 16 September 2005 09:42 (twenty years ago)

ack, ok. no congrats.
i'm rubbish today. maybe i should just stick to the stock g-kit comments?

g-kit (g-kit), Friday, 16 September 2005 09:49 (twenty years ago)

Sometimes I love PickMeUp:

Have a pirate party
"Everyone dresses up as pirates and brings CDs & booze (and
preferably their own laptop). Look through each others CD
collection and pick the ones they want and rip them to
the laptop.
http://www.putmedown.com/63/arrrr.jpg
Be aware:
-CD piles get mixed up very easily
-Drunken Choices (eg that Manilow Best Of)
-Laptops are expensive (and the CD trays break when you sit
on them)
-MP3 Ripper (The windows media format has annoying
incompatibility issues)
And Sept 19th is Talk Like a Pirate Day." Matt
http://www.yarr.org.uk

The Brocade Fire (kate), Friday, 16 September 2005 09:53 (twenty years ago)

my brother's dog just made a sick.

g-kit (g-kit), Friday, 16 September 2005 10:20 (twenty years ago)

I was going to say "great, lunchtime now!" but then I saw your post. Oh dear.

The Brocade Fire (kate), Friday, 16 September 2005 10:27 (twenty years ago)

Awww, I've just been outside and it's lovely! Crisp and cold and bright! The kind of weather that makes me want to drink gin.

The Brocade Fire (kate), Friday, 16 September 2005 10:43 (twenty years ago)

and i got told off for suggesting rum??

BUH!

g-kit (g-kit), Friday, 16 September 2005 10:46 (twenty years ago)

Any kind of weather at all makes me want to drink gin.

Or whatever else is at hand.

This may explain a few things.

aldo_cowpat (aldo_cowpat), Friday, 16 September 2005 10:46 (twenty years ago)

Mmmm, gin.

Forest Pines (ForestPines), Friday, 16 September 2005 10:47 (twenty years ago)

I didn't say I was going to *drink* any gin just yet. And it's not like I can at Poptimism, either, as gin makes me randy and there's no one there I can sleep with.

I also want magazines, but I couldn't find a single newsagent that sold any. :-(

The Brocade Fire (kate), Friday, 16 September 2005 10:47 (twenty years ago)

I assume these are magazines of a specific type, as most newsagents stock at least one - even if it's only Take A Break.

aldo_cowpat (aldo_cowpat), Friday, 16 September 2005 10:51 (twenty years ago)

Just what kind of magazines are you looking for if they aren't stocked in newsagents?

beanz (beanz), Friday, 16 September 2005 10:52 (twenty years ago)

xpost

beanz (beanz), Friday, 16 September 2005 10:52 (twenty years ago)

Nothing extreme! Just Country Life and Vogue.

These are rubbish newsagents that actually only sell cigarettes and tabloids. Sigh.

The Brocade Fire (kate), Friday, 16 September 2005 10:52 (twenty years ago)

I feel rather cheated. My carrot cake does not have a little iced carrot on the top of it. :-(

The Brocade Fire (kate), Friday, 16 September 2005 10:59 (twenty years ago)

I don't like the little marzipan carrot on top of caqrrot cake, but I've got an aversion to cake decoration anyway. A cake is just a cake - eat the cake, don't LOOK at it!

It is a beautiful day - crisp and clear and lovely. Then I cam eback, ate some cheese and beat my mate at table football 2 games to 1. Get in!

Come Back Johnny B (Johnney B), Friday, 16 September 2005 11:35 (twenty years ago)

it's frickin windy here.

g-kit (g-kit), Friday, 16 September 2005 11:36 (twenty years ago)

It was windy thisvmorning, but it's calmed down a bit now. I don't mind windy tho - I put my washing out this morning.

Come Back Johnny B (Johnney B), Friday, 16 September 2005 11:37 (twenty years ago)

it's madness here. if i weren't such a fatty i woulda blown away.

g-kit (g-kit), Friday, 16 September 2005 12:01 (twenty years ago)

I could od with some rum. I'm going to meet new housemates tonight (yay!) - hence my poptimism-less-ness (boo!) - but that means I can get to know them + get drunk!

You need to see the new house. The kitchen is immense.

Come Back Johnny B (Johnney B), Friday, 16 September 2005 12:05 (twenty years ago)

Wow, immense kitchen - good for cooking immense curries in, yes?

I have not noticed wind. I'm just happy that it's cold and crispy - coat weather finally!

The Brocade Fire (kate), Friday, 16 September 2005 12:08 (twenty years ago)

is this poptimism thing anyplace close to the place i'm seeing Mudhoney tonight? the Koko, i think it is.
also, does anyone want to see Mudhoney tonight? short notice and all, but spare ticket if yoos wants one.

g-kit (g-kit), Friday, 16 September 2005 12:09 (twenty years ago)

Wow, immense kitchen - good for cooking immense curries in, yes?

I have not noticed wind.

chuckle

beanz (beanz), Friday, 16 September 2005 12:11 (twenty years ago)

bwahahaha

g-kit (g-kit), Friday, 16 September 2005 12:12 (twenty years ago)

It's a busride away. I think you could take the 24 (?) down to Leicester Square.

The Brocade Fire (kate), Friday, 16 September 2005 12:13 (twenty years ago)

Good for cooking immense ANYTHING in. There's even a deep fat frier - now I can make samosas as well! But it's a gas oven, and I've never used a gas oven, only electric. I hope it's easy.

Come Back Johnny B (Johnney B), Friday, 16 September 2005 12:40 (twenty years ago)

I love gas ovens! They warm up so quickly and cook things so well, especially pizza.

(However, they are a bit tempting for those with a depressive slant to their personalities.)

The Brocade Fire (kate), Friday, 16 September 2005 12:42 (twenty years ago)

Ha ha ha ha ha ha!!! I've been taking tests over on OK Cupid (I love taking interweb tests!) and I took the political one, and it came up that I was a Socialist! BWAH HAH HAH! In what world? Oh, compared to Americans, yes, probably.

The Brocade Fire (kate), Friday, 16 September 2005 12:43 (twenty years ago)

OKcupid scares me. I'll probably go back onto it and find loads of pretty indie chiXors have emailed me in the 3 months I've been off there. I don't want to check, just in case I'm wrong.

In other news, I've just drank a pint of milk and feel as bloated as. Are you supposed to drink a pint of milk a day, or is that only when you're pregnant (which I don't intend to be anytime soon).

Come Back Johnny B (Johnney B), Friday, 16 September 2005 12:46 (twenty years ago)

Pint of milk a day? What? Never heard of this. Sounds like mentalist marketing from the dairy board.

The Brocade Fire (kate), Friday, 16 September 2005 12:48 (twenty years ago)

The second I decided I was moving to London, OkCupid coughed up an attractive Dublin girl-geek who isn't three million years younger than me. Bah.

Andrew Farrell (afarrell), Friday, 16 September 2005 12:50 (twenty years ago)

Okay, just looked at OkCupid, and yes, I have an email from a sexy indie chiXor, sent June 2nd. Fan-Fucking-Tastic.

Also, the advert on the top says i can find an "Active SexSearch member in Staines" - Staines? What's so special about Staines? Are there loads of sex crazed gilz in staines?

Come Back Johnny B (Johnney B), Friday, 16 September 2005 13:05 (twenty years ago)

Staines? My active sex search is for Telford! But I bet it's the same chiX0rs.

The Brocade Fire (kate), Friday, 16 September 2005 13:06 (twenty years ago)

(I found a profile of a bloke who looked a lot like Jared Harris and had all sorts of interesting things on his profile - but he hadn't logged on in months, so I sent him a message bemoaning the fact. Which he will probably never read. Sigh. Oh well.)

The Brocade Fire (kate), Friday, 16 September 2005 13:07 (twenty years ago)

okay you've convinced me to have another look at okcupid tonight, i think i will change my profle photo that should do the trick.

Ste (Fuzzy), Friday, 16 September 2005 13:13 (twenty years ago)

Dammit, why do I have to do some work now? Can't they see I'm looking at Boris Johnson's website by the rapt expression of lust on my face?

The Brocade Fire (kate), Friday, 16 September 2005 13:27 (twenty years ago)

> Sounds like mentalist marketing from the dairy board.

was exactly that: 'Drinka Pinta Milka Day'

http://www.hatads.org.uk/library3.htm (1969 version)

koogs (koogs), Friday, 16 September 2005 13:42 (twenty years ago)

it should SO be

" drinka pinta milka day lolz ^_^ "

g-kit (g-kit), Friday, 16 September 2005 13:43 (twenty years ago)

cept they didn't have smilies in 1969. and i know because i was there. (barely) 8)

koogs (koogs), Friday, 16 September 2005 14:03 (twenty years ago)

I've just been told that I can go home. On the one day that I don't *plan* on going home. Typical!

The Brocade Fire (kate), Friday, 16 September 2005 14:25 (twenty years ago)

I always get Dolphin's Barn. Which is an area of Dublin containing next to nothing that I would willingly stick my penis in.

Andrew Farrell (afarrell), Friday, 16 September 2005 15:19 (twenty years ago)

Maybe that's it... they deliberately pick the seamiest area near you? Telford, though. A bit random.

The Brocade Fire (kate), Friday, 16 September 2005 15:21 (twenty years ago)

We usually get people calling up at the start of summer offering two week free trials of watercoolers. Unfortunately for them, British summer is usually about two weeks long ;-)

mei (mei), Friday, 16 September 2005 16:37 (twenty years ago)

My parents are in Telford right now. On a caravan holiday.

Forest Pines (ForestPines), Friday, 16 September 2005 17:24 (twenty years ago)

Morning, people. How was your weekend?

I'm still feeling a bit blasted, it's not a good sign when you finish the weekend more tired than when you start. Doesn't help that I overslept so I've not had proper amount of coffee yet and the coffeemaker seems to be broken or out of sugar, argh.

Went to Poptimism on Friday night and although I can't remember much of it, I can't shake the awful feeling that I misbehaved badly, even though I can't really remember anything in particular except a run-in with an ex on the stairs on the way out.

Spent pretty much all Saturday in bed feeling awful. Alternately slept and read magazines. The Cotswolds issue of Country Life was everything I had dreamed it would be - including the news that Damien Hirst has just bought a 3.1 million pound mansion in the Cotswolds. There was a naked photo of him in the Guardian magazine as well. I cut it out and stuck it up on the wall because it made me smile. I cut out a few things out of Vogue and the like and stuck them on the wall. It's supposed to be creative visualisation or something, I don't know. Slept.

Sunday I went through all my clothes looking for autumn sweaters and the like. I was shocked that all my winter clothes are so drab. I think that's a hangover from the Joe period - he hated it when I wore bright colours and paisley and things. Why did I spend so long being so Not Me to make someone else happy? I want a big snuggly bright purple jumper now. Went window shopping at Liberty and fell in love with a new duvet cover - purple velvet and peacock feathers but it seemed to be either a one of a kind of a display model because I couldn't find one for sale (or with a price on it) anywhere. :-(

Had lunch with Emsk, saw Dig! (wrote about that on ILM) and watched documentaries until I fell asleep. The last ice age's ice sheet ended at Finchley Road Tube. Strangely appropriate.

The Brocade Fire (kate), Monday, 19 September 2005 08:04 (twenty years ago)

Am I really desperate enough to drink office coffee without sugar? We shall see...

The Brocade Fire (kate), Monday, 19 September 2005 08:09 (twenty years ago)

i couldn't find this thread when i used the search thingy. is it case sinsitive or summat.

and er.. i'm usually more tired at the end of most weekends than at the start. i thought that was what weekends were for?

i may be going on holiday next week! last minute and all that, very exciting.

i saw mudhoney. it was grungetastic.

i want coffee. i want cookie.

coffee without sugar is great! i hate sugar in coffee.
i am teh sweet enuf already lolz!!1

g-kit (g-kit), Monday, 19 September 2005 08:12 (twenty years ago)

sorry about the robotic format of that post...

g-kit (g-kit), Monday, 19 September 2005 08:13 (twenty years ago)

No, search no longer works on recent posts cause there's something wrong with the server. Go into September and look for it, that's how I find it.

Where are you going on your holiday?

I want cookie, too. I didn't have any cookies at the weekend because they diddn't have any at Safeway. So I had Tunnocks instead. mmm, Tunnocks. Taste of Scotland.

I rested so much at the weekend! It is not fair that I am still tired. I slept so much on Saturday that I missed Nelson and Napoleon and the party. I still feel bad about this. :-(

The Brocade Fire (kate), Monday, 19 September 2005 08:15 (twenty years ago)

yak coffee anyway is disgust, have tea instead

friday saw me being a borey geek and spent most of my night installing new linux set up. then i went out for last orders.

saturday i stayed in and watched copulous amounts of comic strip dvd's.

yesterday i was geeky again and spent all morning and afternoon debugging my zombie adventure game which mysteriously became a trove of compile errors after the linux upgrade.

and this morning i feel great because i didn't get shedded at the weekend.

Ste (Fuzzy), Monday, 19 September 2005 08:16 (twenty years ago)

I was SUPPOSED to see housemates on Saturday morning somewhere - but oh no, it wasn't to be. R1chard, my usually dependable housemate, has fallen under that foulest of diseases, love, and so spent Thursday night, all day Friday, and Friday night, out of sight and without mind with his new lady friend. This I don't mind at all, but when we KNOW he has an appointment with two housemates that we NEED to move into this house, and is UNABLE to haul his sorry ass out of bed to get there, nor has the decency to phone and tell me that he's not going, and THEN phones me at 2 o'clock in the afternoon going "Did you go round to see those two girls?" - well, quite frankly, it's not on. His laziness is costing me real money, but it's the fact that he's let people down that's bad. Here's let ME down, dammit, and I'm not impressed.

So I made some chocolate brownies, ate some Stilton, and watched about Daria for 10 hours straight. Nice.

I BELIEVE that young Richard will sort it all out today - he's better. If he's not capable to being trusted to drive this project, then I'll have to take the reigns off him. I've always trusted him in the past, but his recent inability to keep to the simplest of plans disheartens me.

Come Back Johnny B (Johnney B), Monday, 19 September 2005 08:19 (twenty years ago)

Good morning.
Went to karaoke after Poptimism. Woke up on Saturday with a headache, sore throat and no money. Drove to Norwich (taking gf's sister back to uni) then drove back on Sunday.
This morning I realised 3 minutes away from my flat that I'd left my wallet at home. But I couldn't be bothered going back for it so my lunch is going to be paid for with the pennies I can dig out of the drawer in my desk.

beanz (beanz), Monday, 19 September 2005 08:20 (twenty years ago)

it's looking very much like i'll be going to Cyprus.
ooh, if i go on holiday, i'll be able to sleep SO MUCH. whee!

g-kit (g-kit), Monday, 19 September 2005 08:21 (twenty years ago)

Yay, now this seems like my kind of thread! Hi guys!

Panther Pink (Pinkpanther), Monday, 19 September 2005 08:29 (twenty years ago)

I need more tea. I hope there's some milk left in the fridge.

Come Back Johnny B (Johnney B), Monday, 19 September 2005 08:32 (twenty years ago)

yay, Pink! Guess you got my email, then. :-)

Ste, I'm jealous of your sleep. Johnney, blimey, what a load of rubbish. Don't worry the loveyloveylovelove will wear off soon and he will go back to being a responsible fellow. Beanz, do you not bring lunch from home? I forgot to eat breakfast, but I found a fiver left over from yesterday so I bought an eggy sammich. Though now I won't have the appetite for my broccoli.

Cyprus! Weeeeeeeee!

The Brocade Fire (kate), Monday, 19 September 2005 08:33 (twenty years ago)

my sleep ?

Ste (Fuzzy), Monday, 19 September 2005 08:38 (twenty years ago)

Well, maybe not sleep but definitely this:

and this morning i feel great because i didn't get shedded at the weekend.

I still feel a bit out of sorts from a bender I went on on Friday! even though I drank nothing for the rest of the weekend.

The Brocade Fire (kate), Monday, 19 September 2005 08:40 (twenty years ago)

Morning! I seem to have acquired a headcold from ferk knows where and have just had that HORRIBLE moment of auto-asphyxiation you get when the sinus pills Kick Out The Jams.

Had to go to EXTREMELY Catholic funeral for close friend's dad on Friday, way out in Malmesbury which is the oldest borough in England official. The wake was in a former coaching inn that had its first remodelling in 1220. Here is the Abbey, Kate - there's been something on the site since the 6th century:

http://www.malmesbury-memories.co.uk/DeeBailey/images/abbey.jpg

suzy (suzy), Monday, 19 September 2005 08:43 (twenty years ago)

i foolishly drank on friday, saturday AND sunday. tis very rare that this happens.

g-kit (g-kit), Monday, 19 September 2005 08:43 (twenty years ago)

Morning! I have not been to Malmsbury though it looks like somewhere I ought to go. Pity the visit was not under happier circumstances, but it looks beautiful.

The Brocade Fire (kate), Monday, 19 September 2005 08:44 (twenty years ago)

my sign of getting older is how i hesitate in going out on saturdays due to the knowledge of how i will still feel monday morning.

but fridays? boy that must have been some bender. was your 'run in' with the ex a shouty experience?

Ste (Fuzzy), Monday, 19 September 2005 08:45 (twenty years ago)

I'm also having a bit of a dilemma. Said Ex was all "I don't want to talk now, I'll call you" and then of course didn't. Do I leave it, festering, and just hope it goes away? (Which of course, it hasn't, it delays it and makes it nastier when I do eventually see him.) Or do I take the bull by the horns and say "look, I don't want to see you AT ALL for quite some time."

I am irrationally upset by his presence. I get upset when he tries to talk to me, I get more upset when he ignores me. I can't look at him and not see my own failure. It's fine, it's better when I don't see him AT ALL so I stop thinking about him. But having him close just feels like having my own failure rubbed in my face repeatedly. I made a mistake. I made the mistake of thinking we were close, that it was actually something special when really he's just exceptionally good at small talk. I get angry at myself for letting myself be affected, for letting myself be bothered by things I should have forgotten.

I wish there were a pill, condensed lotus blossoms or something.

The Brocade Fire (kate), Monday, 19 September 2005 08:50 (twenty years ago)

Oh, and I almost be forgetting. Arrrrrrrrrr! Happy International Speak Like A Pirate Day!

The Brocade Fire (kate), Monday, 19 September 2005 08:54 (twenty years ago)

(I forgot also about the angels on roller skates gliding up and down Trafalgar Square in front of the National Gallery. I almost thought I was having a psychotic break, but Emsk saw them, too.)

The Brocade Fire (kate), Monday, 19 September 2005 08:59 (twenty years ago)

YARRR!!!!11

'appen i bought a game couple weeks back that be named PIRATE'S COVE. reckon we should be playin' that tonight again then. arr!

g-kit (g-kit), Monday, 19 September 2005 09:01 (twenty years ago)

Actually it was a very happy occasion (C@rl0s' dad had Parkinson's and was nearly 80) because C's three sisters returned from Mexico, Tibet and Dubai for the occasion, and they are also my friends. Everybody got very excited when Bob's best friend spoke of the irony of an escapee from Communist Poland coming to Britain for the socialism, with all the over-60 males harrumphing 'Hear, here'. Only stressful bit was when one of our friends was lairy on the train back - I hate wrasslin' tired and emotional drunk folks.

suzy (suzy), Monday, 19 September 2005 09:02 (twenty years ago)

There was a naked photo of [Damien Hirst] in the Guardian magazine as well. I cut it out and stuck it up on the wall because it made me smile.

I really didn't like what he was doing with his penis there.

My life feels a bit odd at the moment. I feel like I'm inventing dilemmas and dichotomies that aren't actually there except in my own head, because I'm inventing Relationship Opportunities that aren't actually there either.

Ooh, I forgot it was Talk Like A Pirate Day. YARRR!

Forest Pines (ForestPines), Monday, 19 September 2005 09:03 (twenty years ago)

I'm always the tired and emotional drunk folk that needs to be wrastled. :-(

I did like what he was doing was his penis, that was what made the photo so funny. And he was making a cheeky and mischevious face. It made me irrationally happy, especially combined with the bit in Country Life about him buying the Cotswold Castle. That's the sort of thing Kate Gordon would have made him do. (while spliffing up tampons in the Smoking Room) :-)

The Brocade Fire (kate), Monday, 19 September 2005 09:07 (twenty years ago)

Yarr etc.

I've tried typing something in reply to your post way way up top about your ex kate but it's just all coming out crap. but in short, I empathise greatly.

i am fucking starving!

Ste (Fuzzy), Monday, 19 September 2005 09:11 (twenty years ago)

Yarrr, moy emayells bin takin' two owers to download from the surrvurr.
I sometoimes (though it be rarely) brings moy lunch from 'ome but more regyular-loike I buys it from the very many sandwich shops around 'ere.
(Very many crawss-posts to Cap'n Kate)

I can't keep this up.

Kate, would you be able to cope with not calling him? Then you can be ignoring him, not vice versa. Is any good going to come of having any conversation at all with him?

beanz (beanz), Monday, 19 September 2005 09:12 (twenty years ago)

ye who be goin' without cookie be rumblin afore noon. arrr.

g-kit (g-kit), Monday, 19 September 2005 09:13 (twenty years ago)

the cookie i bought from the train station on thursday was scoffed only on friday evening, it wasn't very nice. i think i'll stick to the homemade efforts of our local bakery. jim lad.

Ste (Fuzzy), Monday, 19 September 2005 09:14 (twenty years ago)

ye be lucky not to be gettin weevils in it, lad. ye dun even know ye born!

g-kit (g-kit), Monday, 19 September 2005 09:16 (twenty years ago)

Well, thanks for the empathy. I'm really the one in the wrong here, but I can't help hurting when something hurts. Maybe I should just toss a coin and go "heads I write, tails I ignore it."

What would he want? No idea. I suspect he's as sick of the situation as I.

x-post. I wouldn't call him; I would send him an email. basically saying "Yes, I'm avoiding you, and I would to continue to do so, only more strenously. It's not your fault, but I can't deal with you right now. It upsets me when you do talk to me, it upsets me more when you don't talk to me. So I'd rather not see you at all." But I'm so sick of even thinking about it that I can't even compose the email.

So I'd rather think about naked Damien Hirst playing with his foreskin and Kate Gordon smoking tampons in his country house. Yes.

The Brocade Fire (kate), Monday, 19 September 2005 09:16 (twenty years ago)

I love Country Life. I am going to order a pair of Sex Wellies I saw in the back of it. Since Wellies and Ballgowns are apparently IN thanks to Camilla.

The Brocade Fire (kate), Monday, 19 September 2005 09:18 (twenty years ago)

Yarr! That picture suggested Damien was trying to LOCATE his penis.

suzy (suzy), Monday, 19 September 2005 09:19 (twenty years ago)

I spent some hours trying not to think of that picture. It was the only one in the series I didn't like and it lodged itself in my head :( Now it's back.

beanz (beanz), Monday, 19 September 2005 09:20 (twenty years ago)

Sex Wellies? What makes they be wellies of sex, Cap'n?

Forest Pines (ForestPines), Monday, 19 September 2005 09:20 (twenty years ago)

I thought sex wellies was something to do with sheep. I wish I didn't know that

beanz (beanz), Monday, 19 September 2005 09:21 (twenty years ago)

Arrr, wellies of sexing indeed, me laddie! They be fitted boots of Wellington made to a riding boot cut, with buckles at the top, very kinky indeed.

The Brocade Fire (kate), Monday, 19 September 2005 09:22 (twenty years ago)

Yarrr, if I get kinky boots of sex in my head it'll set my ship off towards the Horn! Quick, tie me to the mainmast and give me a good whipping.

Forest Pines (ForestPines), Monday, 19 September 2005 09:26 (twenty years ago)

Arrrr, tempt me not! I be fixing for whipping the cabin boy with images of nekkid Damien Hirst in me mind.

The Brocade Fire (kate), Monday, 19 September 2005 09:27 (twenty years ago)

yarr, i be arrangin' a game of Pirate Cove this evenin'. i bet ye all wish ye live by t'seaside like Kittenbeard now, aye?

g-kit (g-kit), Monday, 19 September 2005 09:32 (twenty years ago)

Sigh. I'm trying to find a photo of teh Sex Wellies online, but am having trouble with the Shires Catalogue. Closest I can get:

http://www.horsingaroundsaddlery.co.uk/ccp51/media/images/product_category/scan0003a.jpg

...but I think those are the leather ones, not the super-kinky rubber ones.

The Brocade Fire (kate), Monday, 19 September 2005 09:35 (twenty years ago)

Have I ever told ye that accordin' to family legend and tradition I be indeed descended from Spanish Pirates. Yarr, me hearties!!

Forest Pines (ForestPines), Monday, 19 September 2005 09:36 (twenty years ago)

t'phrase "sex wellies" be ticklin' me, yarr.

g-kit (g-kit), Monday, 19 September 2005 09:38 (twenty years ago)

yay, Pink! Guess you got my email, then. :-)

I got it honey & I will be responding when I get a mo! *hugs*

Panther Pink (Pinkpanther), Monday, 19 September 2005 09:41 (twenty years ago)

(I cannot take credit for ye phrase "Sex Wellies" - I nicked it from my bandmate AMP. But that is the great thing about having such cool bandmates, I can nick cool phrases from them.)

((I was trying to find a picture of the original sex wellies on her website but could not.))

The Brocade Fire (kate), Monday, 19 September 2005 09:43 (twenty years ago)

(((as I was chatting to someone online last night about fantasies involving Getting It On outdoors with her wearing Boots Of Sex, this thread is definitely not doing my horn any good right now)))

Forest Pines (ForestPines), Monday, 19 September 2005 09:45 (twenty years ago)

Legend has it my black-haired and blue-eyed 100 per cent SWEDISH great-grandmother is the descendant of Armada/pirates. Arrrrr-iba!

suzy (suzy), Monday, 19 September 2005 09:46 (twenty years ago)

RUBBER SEX WELLIES!!!

http://www.equine-direct.co.uk/images/boots8a.jpg

I'm sorry, I'll stop.

(I want green ones, not black ones, though those leather riding boots above look pretty good.)

The Brocade Fire (kate), Monday, 19 September 2005 09:48 (twenty years ago)

FP I feel your pain, I have been feeling that way inclined all w/e but boy was at a stag do & when he came back yesterday was in no way fit to romance me! :-(

Panther Pink (Pinkpanther), Monday, 19 September 2005 09:49 (twenty years ago)

Awww... but at least you HAVE someone to satisfy your urges with, when he isn't drunk at least.

Forest Pines (ForestPines), Monday, 19 September 2005 09:55 (twenty years ago)

To be honest it's slightly more frustrating to have someone there, but still not deal with your urges. Why do boys have to go quad biking? *sigh*

Panther Pink (Pinkpanther), Monday, 19 September 2005 09:58 (twenty years ago)

Even so: him being in an unfit state lasts for hours. Being single and not being able to get any lasts for YEARS.

Forest Pines (ForestPines), Monday, 19 September 2005 09:59 (twenty years ago)

Not to quibble, Pink, but no, it's not more frustrating. I mean, annoying or not that it might be that boys go quad biking, sure, you didn't get sex at the weekend, but you could have sex tonight. Or tomorrow. Or at the next weekend.

When am I going to get to have sex again? Erm... let's see. NEVER! Far more frustrating.

x-post

The Brocade Fire (kate), Monday, 19 September 2005 10:00 (twenty years ago)

OK yes, you are more hard done by than me!

x-post

Yep you're all right, I am the spoilt one & should shut up at once! *rollseyes*

Panther Pink (Pinkpanther), Monday, 19 September 2005 10:01 (twenty years ago)

OK, I'm going to stop now, because I'm trying hard *not* to whinge about not getting laid, and trying to be positive and all, and Taking Care Of My Appearance and Making An Effort and all those things which are supposed to increase my self esteem and the like.

Even if I might not have Damien Hirst and Toddington Manor to amuse me.

The Brocade Fire (kate), Monday, 19 September 2005 10:04 (twenty years ago)

Oh my god, look at this place:

http://www.toddingtonmanor.co.uk/gardens.htm

300 rooms. 10 gardens.

::seethes with envy::

The Brocade Fire (kate), Monday, 19 September 2005 10:11 (twenty years ago)

Here's a picture of Beau Brummell to entertain us all.

http://www.pemberley.com/janeinfo/brummell.jpg

And here are some Regency types eloping.

http://www.pemberley.com/janeinfo/elope.jpg

beanz (beanz), Monday, 19 September 2005 10:14 (twenty years ago)

Arrr, look at yon Brummel's Sex Wellies. Shiver me timbers!

The Brocade Fire (kate), Monday, 19 September 2005 10:19 (twenty years ago)

He has confusing trousers.

beanz (beanz), Monday, 19 September 2005 10:22 (twenty years ago)

Blimey, I turn my back for half an hour and you all turn into sex-starved pirate-impersonating Regency types. I'm not as surprised as I maybe should be.

Isn't Brummell's arse back to front?

Come Back Johnny B (Johnney B), Monday, 19 September 2005 10:34 (twenty years ago)

turn into sex-starved pirate-impersonating Regency types.

What do you mean *turn into*? That's me ALL FREAKING DAY LONG most of the time!

The Brocade Fire (kate), Monday, 19 September 2005 10:36 (twenty years ago)

Anyway, look at this place, it's insane!!!

http://www.zip.com.au/~lnbdds/home/todman/tmheader.jpg

http://www.zip.com.au/~lnbdds/home/toddington.htm

(These are so big they will linkify, but still)

http://www.beauharnais.sk/images/Toddington%20Manor%202.jpg
http://www.beauharnais.sk/images/Toddington%20Manor%203.jpg

Apparently he wants to keep his art collection in it. Blimey.

The Brocade Fire (kate), Monday, 19 September 2005 10:39 (twenty years ago)

But you've dragged the whole thread along with you!

And that house ain't all that. Imagine you walk to the kitchen then realised you've left your mug in the opposite wing? It would make preparing tea an absolutew chore, instead of the wonderous event it actually is.

Come Back Johnny B (Johnney B), Monday, 19 September 2005 10:40 (twenty years ago)

Two words:

Peacock. Room.

http://www.osbornandmercer.com/images/peacocka.jpg

(And I would have been happy with just that peacock duvet cover from Liberty.)

The Brocade Fire (kate), Monday, 19 September 2005 10:43 (twenty years ago)

Plus, if you can afford a house like that, you can afford a butler to go and rescue your tea for you.

The Brocade Fire (kate), Monday, 19 September 2005 10:44 (twenty years ago)

Also, I just realised that I have the backup of my entire writing folder in the drawer of my desk. Including the Damien Hirst porn. Might be a bit hard to get away with reading it at work, but then agian, this is a laptop, I can drag it off to the bathroom.

Is it lunchtime yet? I think it might be.

The Brocade Fire (kate), Monday, 19 September 2005 10:48 (twenty years ago)

I'd feel like a right berk though. "Jeeves, I've forgotten to pick up my mug. Go and fetch it for me, please." Jeeves would give me such an evil look because I made him go and do something which should have been completely unnecessary, and even if he didn't show it, he'd think it.

That's why I'd hate having a butler. I'd spend all day making life easy for him. I guess I'd get used to it eventually and be beating him with the small end of a USB cable in no time, but until then it would be horrible.

Damien Hurst porn?

(I'm sure there's unsavoury jokes involving things being preserved in formaldehyde, but I'll let you write them.)

Come Back Johnny B (Johnney B), Monday, 19 September 2005 10:51 (twenty years ago)

I've always wanted to have a butler. Sigh. Ever since I was small and first read Murderess Ink/Murder Ink. I thought it would be the best thing in the world to have a butler. Especially a brilliant and smart butler like Jeeves who would just solve all my life crises for me.

Except these days, they don't call people like that butlers, they call them PA's. I wouldn't want one of them, no.

I can't believe that LIAWOD isn't mirrored anywhere. 29,100 results for "damien hirst porn" on google and not one of them is *actually* porn.

The Brocade Fire (kate), Monday, 19 September 2005 10:56 (twenty years ago)

LIAWOD sounds like a character from Welsh myth. Although that would probably be Lliawodd, more likely.

(I will persuade Kate to like Welsh myth one day, I'm sure of it)

Forest Pines (ForestPines), Monday, 19 September 2005 11:14 (twenty years ago)

THE WELSH STOLE MY SHOES!!!! I WILL NEVER LIKE THEIR MYTH!!!

Yes, Lliawodd, the Welsh shoe-stealing sprite. Eeeeevil.

(LIAWOD = "Loving In A World Of Desire" = Damien Hirst porn.)

The Brocade Fire (kate), Monday, 19 September 2005 11:16 (twenty years ago)

ALL of your shoes?

Forest Pines (ForestPines), Monday, 19 September 2005 11:18 (twenty years ago)

oh my, the colleague opposite me is eating cheese and beans.

IT REEKS!

Ste (Fuzzy), Monday, 19 September 2005 11:20 (twenty years ago)

No, just my favourite pair of trainers.

Mmm, damn, it's lunchtime and I didn't even notice. I should eat my broccoli. (Especially since Beanz is not around to dowse it with beer.)

Mmmmm, beer.

The Brocade Fire (kate), Monday, 19 September 2005 11:22 (twenty years ago)

I'm going to try cooking broccoli in beer.

beanz (beanz), Monday, 19 September 2005 11:44 (twenty years ago)

I'm REALLY intregued with the the Beer Bread link on Freaky Trigger Pumpkin Blog. I'll give that a go this week. I hope it's nice.

Come Back Johnny B (Johnney B), Monday, 19 September 2005 11:45 (twenty years ago)

Let me know how it goes. I'm going to do either chilli or a pie if I get round to it

beanz (beanz), Monday, 19 September 2005 11:50 (twenty years ago)

Beer bread is lovely! However, beer broccoli, I'm not so sure of.

I should do something with all the beer that's building up in my fridge. I keep buying it and forgetting to drink it. I've got a pint of Badger Golden Glory, a pint of Nelson's Victory Ale, a pint of something yucky I got off the Stooges tourbus and a bottle of strawberry wine sitting undrunk in my fridge.

This is what happens when rehearsals are not at my house.

The Brocade Fire (kate), Monday, 19 September 2005 11:51 (twenty years ago)

Put beer in the cheese sauce when making cauliflower cheese! That would be great oh no hang on it would be horrible.

Save the beer for my housewarming party!

Come Back Johnny B (Johnney B), Monday, 19 September 2005 12:01 (twenty years ago)

Can someone who is good at photoshop please add in a giant nuclear explosion going off on the front porch? Thanks.

http://www.countryschool.net/nccs/about/about_assets/main_bldg.jpg

The Brocade Fire (kate), Monday, 19 September 2005 12:10 (twenty years ago)

yaaaaarrr! i am only allowed on ilx at lunchtime and so typing one-handed (bread in other hand dipping in houmous) so pirate impersonations will not last long. me hearties.

DUDE good weekend my w/e starts thursday, me and c and the new person doing my job went to the new la porchetta in camden which is much more civilised than and equally as delicious as the upper st one and more spacious than the boswell st one, then the gig we were going to didn't happen so i went home to sign the new contract for the house (pieces of slate).

friday my new old stereo (my uncle's old one, there is nuffin wrong with it but he wanted a littler one, it's awesome, he is v serious about music plus has a shitload more cash than me so it sounds AMAZING) arrived so i put it together and fiddled with all its bits and buttons then p came round and we ate halloumi and went wandering and bought a phone that didn't work and he showed me a secret record shop and i bought a pretenders record one and a john betjeman one. then h came round and we drank wine and i was gonna cook dinner for us but she'd had hers and the idea sort of got dropped by the wayside what with all the important wine-drinkin'. so er then we went to poptimism and drank some more and i went to sleep on the floor but also i danced and it was fab and somehow i came home with not a scratch on me and no cobwebs neither.

saturday woke up and messed around with aforementioned new stereo. our remaining housemate r's flight from texas landed in the morning so he showed up at lunchtime so i chatted to him and introduced him to the people in the house he hadn't met yet, i am pleased with our decision - think we have picked a good one. then went to get new bike trousery things (the old ones had almost no bum left and i have considerable amount of bum so it was getting to be not a pretty sight) and hurrah housemate e's new lady works in a bike shop so got discount hurrah! they have a zillion pockets. then went to oxfam to look for a dress for v&c's wedding but came back with 8 books and an elgar record instead. came home and made yummy courgette thing for me and the texan and stayed up talking to the russian for a few hours.

sunday woke up with teh cleeeeeeaning frenzeh on me so did the kitchen then swept and mopped all downstairs and upstairs bathroom then went to see DIG w kate (this was also the first outing for the zillionpocketed things), saw the angels (ooh! the angels!) came home ate some noodles went straight out again to see FIREWORKS off blackfriars bridge! wow, the fireworks. the fireworks actually only lasted a few minutes but the parade before was awesome (and if you'd asked me to come to a parade w no fireworks i would've refused), it was the end of the thames festival so there were loads of floaty multistranded shiny tinsel fishbird things and a giant spinning house with open windows and doves on it and a person inside and a dragonbike and rollerbladers and purple orange things and samba drummers and other drummers and a lot of them had incredible feathery creations and kate, i think that's what the angels were from.

emsk ( emsk), Monday, 19 September 2005 13:26 (twenty years ago)

ooh, ooh, i could make BADLY DRAWN KIT attack it!

er, xpost.

g-kit (g-kit), Monday, 19 September 2005 13:29 (twenty years ago)

I love emsk's long posts - they always look as if they're about to run out of breath but never do.

WHat is it with animated music today? This morning my head was playing "Bright Eyes", now it's "A Whole New WOrld" off Aladdin. This deal's getting worse all the time.

Come Back Johnny B (Johnney B), Monday, 19 September 2005 13:44 (twenty years ago)

the one time i met emsk she talked like she posts.

i went to work saturday but the hippy boss turned up 10 minutes after me and filled the office with noise, cold air, fidgeting and smoke so i left without getting anything done and went home and had nothing planned. not good.

sunday i came into work about 7:30 in a bid to avoid hippy boss and managed it for about 3 hours before he basically did the same as saturday. unfortunately i didn't have the luxuary of being able to leave - too much to do. home around 5, in bed before 10...

...and awake before 4 with a headache that i still have...

koogs (koogs), Monday, 19 September 2005 14:18 (twenty years ago)

Absolutly emsk talks like she posts - it's even more impressive to hear her whittle on like that.

I feel ill - I might take 2morrow off work.

Come Back Johnny B (Johnney B), Monday, 19 September 2005 14:25 (twenty years ago)

Good morning. How is work today?

I am annoyed. Still the continuing saga of my laptop. Last night I went round there to demand that it be returned to me, fixed or not - made to wait for a good 20 minutes - and then informed that the optical drive had been fixed, but that the "logic board" (whatever that is, it sounds like an unused subset of ILX) had been broken in the process. They would not charge me for this (bloody well better not - it was functioning perfectly apart from the optical drive when I brought it in) but it would take another day or two to fix.

I hit the roof. I didn't actually start shouting (though I had been immensely looking forward to shouting and building myself into a good rage in order to start doing so) because it was a girl who was helping me and looked like she was about 12. But I got jolly cross.

Tonight I am going to go back there and camp out until it is returned to me. So I a in rather a foul mood.

Oh, and it's David Starkey who does the Monarchy series. Not Ringo. Though that might be good, too.

The Brocade Fire (kate), Tuesday, 20 September 2005 06:56 (twenty years ago)

morning!

i didn't come last in Pirate Cove last night! in fact, i was the 2nd most famous pirate by the end of the game, whee! i drank too much rum for a monday night though. i most definitely will NOT drink a thing tonight, four days in a row is naughty enough.
this morning my girlfriend gave me a wee morning breakfast drinky thing. it tasted like jam!
my holiday is all booked up and confirmed and stuff! and it's reaaaaally soon! lastminute things rule! Eeeeeeee!
sorry to use my whole exclaimation mark quota in one post. ack.

g-kit (g-kit), Tuesday, 20 September 2005 07:06 (twenty years ago)

Blimey, rum on a Monday night, what is the world coming to?

I have just discovered that my days off for next week have been confirmed. Even though I'm no longer playing one of the gigs that I took a day off for. So I have three days off next and no idea what to do with them.

Should I go away for the weekend? Run off to Paris perhaps. (I think I'll be getting paid on Friday so this isn't an impossibility.) Or go shopping and visit museums during the day and all those sorts of things. The mind boggles at the thought.

The Brocade Fire (kate), Tuesday, 20 September 2005 07:09 (twenty years ago)

get some dice and LET FATE DECIDE.
you always gotta trust in what it says on the bones!

...sorry. too much pirating.

g-kit (g-kit), Tuesday, 20 September 2005 07:12 (twenty years ago)

Maybe I'll do a tarot reading.

Though I must admit, a couple of days in Paris sounds very very tempting. I wonder if I can get a reservation at my favourite hotel at such short notice.

The Brocade Fire (kate), Tuesday, 20 September 2005 07:17 (twenty years ago)

Morning
David Starkey is really getting on my nerves. I'm finding it hard to let go.

beanz (beanz), Tuesday, 20 September 2005 07:17 (twenty years ago)

Why is he getting on your nerves? Really, I don't pay attention to the waffling heads on those kind of programmes (except Nigel Spivey, because he's hott) because really, there's very little they can tell me that I don't already know.

But I do like the historical reenactor bits.

Though they didn't have nearly enough Katharines.

Anyway, this is my Very Good Reading (which will probably change if you follow the link, but trust me it was good) but I've no idea whether it means I should run away to Paris for a few days or not.

The Brocade Fire (kate), Tuesday, 20 September 2005 07:20 (twenty years ago)

i reckon you should go. doesn't seem like a tough decision to me.

g-kit (g-kit), Tuesday, 20 September 2005 07:25 (twenty years ago)

Oh no, should I go to Paris?

OF COURSE YOU SHOULD YOU SILLY WOMAN!

Oh, I've gotta email you about my housewarming. Please be free Sat 8th!

Come Back Johnny B (Johnney B), Tuesday, 20 September 2005 07:29 (twenty years ago)

It's just that I have this undergraduate contempt for narrativism and Big Character-driven plots. Historians shouldn't use words like "inevitable". I think it's important history's on the tv but it's either military history, kings & queens or Tony Robinson pretending to be a weaver. The last one's closest to my preference but not very close.

And yes! Go to Paris! Use every holiday as if you'll never be given leave again!

beanz (beanz), Tuesday, 20 September 2005 07:31 (twenty years ago)

Sorry, JB, I don't think I am free the 8th, I think we're supposed to be recording that weekend.

I don't know if I can get Eurostar tickets/hotel reservations/etc. at such short notice. Maybe I should have a looksee. Also I need to figure out which exact dates to go. I'm supposed to lead a walk on Saturday and go to a house party that night (though I never seem to make it to house parties lately, even if there is the lure of a pointy nosed blond boy at this one) and need to turn up to a gig on Tuesday evening. I suspect I'd only get one night in Paris which isn't really enough. Sigh.

Historians shouldn't use words like "inevitable".

I agree, this is lazy bad history. I also dislike it when they say - always in a portentious and breathy voice - "This would change the nature of X.... for EVER!!!"

I don't know. I like narrative and big characters and all those unfashionable things. I mean, how would you like your history presented? Like Green Valley or whatever that 1600s House reality show Experimental Archeology thing is called?

If you're talking about the Monarchy, it's pretty much a given you're going to have Big Characters. And The King is going to be the biggest of them all. (Though I did like the emphasis on the queens and female players in the Lancaster vs. York: FITE!!! episode, that brought a bit of fresh perspective to the played out old Wars of the Roses.)

The Brocade Fire (kate), Tuesday, 20 September 2005 07:39 (twenty years ago)

Also, would it be pathetic to go to Paris by myself?

I barely speak French, you know. (Though it was better after only 3 days last time, I was able to say please and thank you and ask for l'eau cheaux (or however you spell hot water).)

The Brocade Fire (kate), Tuesday, 20 September 2005 07:49 (twenty years ago)

You had to ASK for hot water? Your accent will do you no favours in France . . .

Come Back Johnny B (Johnney B), Tuesday, 20 September 2005 07:53 (twenty years ago)

chaud.

no, it's not pathetic to go to Paris by yourself.
just don't not go and then be all kicking yourself and being like "oh, i wish i went to Paris", that would just suck. go or don't go, but don't not go and wish you did.

there's a sentence in there somewhere.

g-kit (g-kit), Tuesday, 20 September 2005 07:55 (twenty years ago)

To make lemsip with. I was very ill the last time I was in Paris.

Sense is getting the better of sensibility right now, and I think I should buy clothes and riding boots and sex wellies and go on a CD buying binge instead.

I speak French with an English accent because of when I learned it. (apparently.) And my companion spoke with a Canadian accent. So fortunately no one thought we were American.

I got randomly asked for directions three times. Twice in English and once in French. Do I just *look* like I know where I'm going?

The Brocade Fire (kate), Tuesday, 20 September 2005 07:57 (twenty years ago)

maybe you look french.

g-kit (g-kit), Tuesday, 20 September 2005 08:00 (twenty years ago)

I don't look French at all. Even though I think I was wearing a beret and a black turtleneck at the time. (It was February! it was appropriate!) I get asked for directions no matter where I am. I got asked for directions in Amsterdam! (OK, I do look slightly Dutch, but still.)

The Brocade Fire (kate), Tuesday, 20 September 2005 08:02 (twenty years ago)

the CD buying binge sounds better, imho

Ste (Fuzzy), Tuesday, 20 September 2005 08:04 (twenty years ago)

I can't even think of anything to buy at the moment. Maybe I would start a thread on ILM, but I'm scared of it these days. I want psychedelic girly electronica but it doesn't really seem to exist. Like the new Goldfrapp album, but moreso. Like the last Medicine album. A bit like Kevin Bletchdom, maybe, but more psychedelic and textural.

The problem is, to get the kind of music I really want to listen to, I have to write it myself. Bah humbug.

The Brocade Fire (kate), Tuesday, 20 September 2005 08:07 (twenty years ago)

ladytron?

Ste (Fuzzy), Tuesday, 20 September 2005 08:08 (twenty years ago)

actually i find their stuff a bit dull

Ste (Fuzzy), Tuesday, 20 September 2005 08:08 (twenty years ago)

Have we ever had a historiography thread on ILE? Narrative history with Big Characters vs. statistics about the life of medieval peasants FITE!

It's ironic that in my experience it's the non-narrative historians who portray things as inevitable more than the narrative ones, who tend to imply that Big Changes Happened as a result of what one Important Person had for breakfast.

(OK, I'm exaggerating, but you know what I mean)

xpost: ooh, I must buy the new Ladytron album sometime.

Forest Pines (ForestPines), Tuesday, 20 September 2005 08:08 (twenty years ago)

I have one Ladytron album - it's OK. Nothing earthshattering, though. A bit to electro and not psychedelic enough.

I need to get some new black trousers as well, I've only just realised that these are ripped - no anywhere terribly important, but just annoying.

Perhaps I should save my Paris trip for when I actually have someone to go with.

Have we had a historiography thread? I'm sure we've had something like that. I imagine Mark S would have started something similar.

The Brocade Fire (kate), Tuesday, 20 September 2005 08:16 (twenty years ago)

i can provide wee pictures.

i want cookie STAT! i'm in danger of becoming mopey.

g-kit (g-kit), Tuesday, 20 September 2005 08:18 (twenty years ago)

how would you like your history presented?

I've thought hard about this and never really come up with a good answer! There are two parts, I guess – subject and style. The subjects could be less about kings and queens (totally personal preferennce) and more about commoners. And there are ways of seeing quite big chunks of life by looking at e.g. medical practitioners or the clergy or blacksmiths or whatever. As far as style goes, I don't mind people dressing up as Wolsey or whatever (cos it makes me think of Carry On Henry) but I don't like being treated like an idiot. Back In The Day, history professors used to sit in front of a camera and lecture for an hour and they got pretty good audiences. I'm sure some of it was dull and Monty Python had plenty to take the piss out of - and I'm not advocating a return to that style. But it does illustrate that if you present something intelligently, you'll attract viewers.

FP: er, kind of! Tell me more!

I'll search for a historiography thread in a bit.

Wee pictures?

beanz (beanz), Tuesday, 20 September 2005 08:18 (twenty years ago)

Alternatively, we could have a History vs. Archaeology thread! That would be fun.

Forest Pines (ForestPines), Tuesday, 20 September 2005 08:22 (twenty years ago)

The problem is, to get the kind of music I really want to listen to, I have to write it myself.

Ha i don't see this as a problem, i would love to be able to do this.

Ste (Fuzzy), Tuesday, 20 September 2005 08:23 (twenty years ago)

What about the Experimental Archeology Reality Shows? I saw only one epp of that 1600s House and it was all about apples and thatching. Which I liked. But then never saw it again.

The Brocade Fire (kate), Tuesday, 20 September 2005 08:24 (twenty years ago)

http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a59/gregkitten/ecw50.jpg

wee pictures. english civil war.

g-kit (g-kit), Tuesday, 20 September 2005 08:24 (twenty years ago)

Those are wee men, but the picture is hardly wee! ;-)

The Brocade Fire (kate), Tuesday, 20 September 2005 08:25 (twenty years ago)

i get confused easy.

g-kit (g-kit), Tuesday, 20 September 2005 08:26 (twenty years ago)

Those wee men remind me of the Beatles in their beardy period.

beanz: My idea, basically, is that because narrative history is structured around the actions of a small group of people, coincidences and small events that happen to those people are very much more important. On the other hand, with non-narrative history, there often tends to be a tone of "well, this *exact event* might not have happened, but change *along these lines* was inevitable because of Social Changes". The French Revolution is the best example I can think of off the top of my head, although I can't to be honest think of any specific events.

Forest Pines (ForestPines), Tuesday, 20 September 2005 08:33 (twenty years ago)

I guess that's really characteristic of Marxism as well and a lot of other isms. But a lot of the time, people are careful to keep it real I think. E.g. a Marxist historian might see everything in terms of class and economics, a feminist historian might see everything in terms of sex/gender relations etc. They're basically saying these themes are constant and the most important axes. I think of all these as useful descriptions depending on the context but never the whole story because there's no such thing as the whole story.

beanz (beanz), Tuesday, 20 September 2005 08:39 (twenty years ago)

Well, yes.

Forest Pines (ForestPines), Tuesday, 20 September 2005 08:42 (twenty years ago)

I read a book recently which claimed to be about the "causes of the English Civil War" and it was so multi-faceted, bringing up the personal characteristics of the King, the socioeconomic factors of the changing pre-Industrial post-Black Death post-sheep-clearance society, the religious ferment, the political ferment, everyone from the runaway Parliament to the Diggers and Levellers and by the time I got to the end of it, I had absolutely *NO IDEA* what had caused the English Civil War at all.

When I had started with the vague notion that it was "Powerful barons vs. Absolutist Monarch: FITE! (and keep those dirty Catholics out)"

So sometimes that whole "multiple thread" approach can be rather negative.

The Brocade Fire (kate), Tuesday, 20 September 2005 08:46 (twenty years ago)

But they all caused the Civil War! Plus loads more! And you are wiser and better informed shirley? I.e. you can rattle off that list of factors for a start. Why do you say that's negative?

Too early in the morning for this personally.

Let's have more pics of toy soldiers.

http://www.grc.nasa.gov/WWW/Wright/ROGER/Images/men201A.jpg

beanz (beanz), Tuesday, 20 September 2005 08:51 (twenty years ago)

Well, perhaps it's disabused me of the notion that everything has a cause, but then again the writing of Hawking and Brian Greene had already done that (even if Hawking went back on it in the end. Apparently.)

Anyway, here is a random picture of James Bond with a martini because I have forgotten which thread it was supposed to go on now because I've been so utterly flummoxed by the English Civil War and its quantum h-bar lack of causality.

http://adac-verlag-gmbh.de/magazine/reisemagazine/hefte/076_suedengland/fotos/bond_martini.jpg

The Brocade Fire (kate), Tuesday, 20 September 2005 08:55 (twenty years ago)

(Would Bond have been a Cavalier or a Roundhead?)

((Also, was Bond really Scottish? That was the point at which in my Scottish Enlightment book where I started going "hang on a minute..." Being educated at Edinburgh and being played by Sean Connery does not make the charcter Scots.))

Oh! And that too! The Scottish Church and the Covenanters caused the English Civil War, as well! My brain hurts!

The Brocade Fire (kate), Tuesday, 20 September 2005 08:58 (twenty years ago)

I am trying to work out what cutting up those toy soldiers will actually make. My best guess is: someone demonstrating semaphore signals.

Forest Pines (ForestPines), Tuesday, 20 September 2005 08:59 (twenty years ago)

The resulting soldier wouldn't have a gun. Is it a pacifist thing?

The Brocade Fire (kate), Tuesday, 20 September 2005 09:03 (twenty years ago)

It's something to do with the Wright brothers I think. I imagigoogled for toy soldiers.

http://www.grc.nasa.gov/WWW/Wright/ROGER/1903model.htm

You can make figures of Wilbur and Orville Wright from small, plastic army men. (These figures are about 2 inched tall). Enlarge the image at the right to see labels. Use a hobby knife to carefully trim off guns and army equipment. The helmet can be trimmed into a hat. To obtain the desired pose, arms and legs can be removed and some from other soldiers glued in their place. The picture to the right shows how to make a pilot to lay on the wing.

WTF?

beanz (beanz), Tuesday, 20 September 2005 09:14 (twenty years ago)

WHERE HAVE THEIR HEADS GONE!?!?!?

http://www.grc.nasa.gov/WWW/Wright/ROGER/Images/men204.jpg

That's just creepy.

Clearly those NASA folk have too much time on their hands. We should send them to the moon again or something.

The Brocade Fire (kate), Tuesday, 20 September 2005 09:16 (twenty years ago)

cookie was no use. i got the hump.

g-kit (g-kit), Tuesday, 20 September 2005 09:24 (twenty years ago)

I have days like that. Today, strangely, isn't one of them. I feel quite reasonable today. Which is a shame as I'm going to have to get a major hump on if I'm going to do a good job of complaining at the Apple Store tonight.

The Brocade Fire (kate), Tuesday, 20 September 2005 09:27 (twenty years ago)

Maybe you should try cutting up toy soldiers? I imagine it's therapeutic. I also imagine it's what c-man does on his days off. "Fucking squaddies, see how you like having your head sliced off and your foot amputated".
xpost

beanz (beanz), Tuesday, 20 September 2005 09:28 (twenty years ago)

Now I've got the Kinks' Tin Soldier Man stuck in my head.

The Brocade Fire (kate), Tuesday, 20 September 2005 09:31 (twenty years ago)

Better than Martika/Eminem

beanz (beanz), Tuesday, 20 September 2005 09:33 (twenty years ago)

ILM is being really rubbish. Not one answer, let alone reccomendation. :-(

The Brocade Fire (kate), Tuesday, 20 September 2005 09:41 (twenty years ago)

i know exactly how you feel.

g-kit (g-kit), Tuesday, 20 September 2005 09:43 (twenty years ago)

Valerie Solanas' less successful organisations, SCUTS.

aldo_cowpat (aldo_cowpat), Tuesday, 20 September 2005 09:43 (twenty years ago)

BAP BAH BAP BAH BAH BAAAAH!
BAH BAH BAH BAH BAH BAH BAP BAH BAP BAH!!!

The Brocade Fire (kate), Tuesday, 20 September 2005 09:44 (twenty years ago)

Aaah, I've got a tune stuck in my head AND I DON@T KNOW WHAT IT IS!

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAGH!

Come Back Johnny B (Johnney B), Tuesday, 20 September 2005 09:49 (twenty years ago)

Oh, that's so annoying! I had that this morning, but it turned out to be "How I Was Made" by Kenickie!

The Brocade Fire (kate), Tuesday, 20 September 2005 09:55 (twenty years ago)

Morning, dudes.

tissp! (the impossible shortest specia), Tuesday, 20 September 2005 10:00 (twenty years ago)

Morning, TISSP, how/where have you been keeping yourself?

The Brocade Fire (kate), Tuesday, 20 September 2005 10:01 (twenty years ago)

Oh, I've been lurking about, but been so busy that not had chance to post much. I am in a bit of a panic this morning, but can't really say anything. Hopefully will all be sorted out soon.

What about you?

tissp! (the impossible shortest specia), Tuesday, 20 September 2005 10:03 (twenty years ago)

I love How I Was Made.
Hi tissp! Hope you get to breath easy soon, whatever this thing is.

beanz (beanz), Tuesday, 20 September 2005 10:05 (twenty years ago)

I love Lauren Laverne.

What? Not this again? Fair enough.

tissp! (the impossible shortest specia), Tuesday, 20 September 2005 10:07 (twenty years ago)

I hope all will be sorted out soon, too.

I'm pretty good apart from the laptop troubles. Sigh.

Is it lunchtime yet? I'm going to eat my strange pasta bake when the microwave is free and write back to Shoegazerboy.

The Brocade Fire (kate), Tuesday, 20 September 2005 10:11 (twenty years ago)

today i wanted to look on friends reunited and send messages to people that were mean to me at school, asking how they were doing and if they fancied a pint, just to see how they would react. if they were all friendly and said yeah, i'd tell them to go spit. if they said no, i'd congratulate them for being honest. i didn't do it yet. you think i should? it might be hilarious.

g-kit (g-kit), Tuesday, 20 September 2005 10:14 (twenty years ago)

I don't think there can be too much Lauren Laverne can there? If Kate can obsess about pirates and regency dandies and whomever else, I'm sure we can get away with a pic or two.

http://images.radcity.net/5893/436171.jpg

G-kit - I keep my revenge fantasies in my head. But I like that one.

beanz (beanz), Tuesday, 20 September 2005 10:16 (twenty years ago)

See my thread about joining up to my alma mater's email list.

(Also, where is that photo of said school with small nuclear explosion on the portico?)

The Brocade Fire (kate), Tuesday, 20 September 2005 10:16 (twenty years ago)

Your laptop is still busted? Nuts.

I was foiled in my attempt to buy a new PowerBook last Friday. I went to every shop in town, but no stock. Probably for the best, since I should wait until the purchasing scheme starts at work, but I need one pretty soon as the screen has fallen off my old one...

(xpost)

tissp! (the impossible shortest specia), Tuesday, 20 September 2005 10:17 (twenty years ago)

It's surprisingly difficult to find pictures of LL on the web.

tissp! (the impossible shortest specia), Tuesday, 20 September 2005 10:18 (twenty years ago)

lauren laverne was always a cutie in my eyes.

revenge? that's the worst revenge ever! it would be a social experiment.

g-kit (g-kit), Tuesday, 20 September 2005 10:18 (twenty years ago)

I suppose I deserve this, but... hey! Look what I found!

http://orsay.tribe.net/tribe/upload/photo/6ef/61b/6ef61bf7-4feb-4ac1-920c-7cd8c56e24ba

(My laptop has been in the shop for two weeks. No, I am not pleased.)

The Brocade Fire (kate), Tuesday, 20 September 2005 10:22 (twenty years ago)

Pub lunch in five minutes. What should I eat that's not burger and chips?

tissp! (the impossible shortest specia), Tuesday, 20 September 2005 10:24 (twenty years ago)

b33r

g-kit (g-kit), Tuesday, 20 September 2005 10:24 (twenty years ago)

Haha.

tissp! (the impossible shortest specia), Tuesday, 20 September 2005 10:25 (twenty years ago)

Mmmmm, beer. No, wait, I was quitting drinking.

The Brocade Fire (kate), Tuesday, 20 September 2005 10:25 (twenty years ago)

WHAT?!!?

tissp! (the impossible shortest specia), Tuesday, 20 September 2005 10:26 (twenty years ago)

I don't remember most of Poptimimsm and this worries me. Immensely.

The Brocade Fire (kate), Tuesday, 20 September 2005 10:26 (twenty years ago)

Oh, this reminds me of Friday night, in which we drank a LOT of red wine. And Chris ended up lying in the street after falling off a wall. Pics later, as I promised him that they would end up on ILX.

tissp! (the impossible shortest specia), Tuesday, 20 September 2005 10:28 (twenty years ago)

I watched CDUK for the first time in YEARS on Saturday, purely cos I suddenly found out that Lauren Laverne is presenting it now

Forest Pines (ForestPines), Tuesday, 20 September 2005 10:40 (twenty years ago)

One of the best pics of her is one that came as an insert to one of Kenickie's CDs. Can't remember which one - could it have been an EP?

beanz (beanz), Tuesday, 20 September 2005 10:41 (twenty years ago)

Ha ha, poor Chris. I am actually very relieved that there are no photos of me on Friday night. (Please god.)

The Brocade Fire (kate), Tuesday, 20 September 2005 10:42 (twenty years ago)

Today, I went out and bought a webcam.

Forest Pines (ForestPines), Tuesday, 20 September 2005 10:45 (twenty years ago)

Oooh, post more LL pics! I'd forgotten how hott she is.

I was thinking of buying a webcam, but I then realised what a pointless piece of equipment it is.

Come Back Johnny B (Johnney B), Tuesday, 20 September 2005 11:03 (twenty years ago)

I can't think of a use for a webcam. My former housemate used to have one. I might get a digital camera, though.

But a scanner comes first.

The Brocade Fire (kate), Tuesday, 20 September 2005 11:09 (twenty years ago)

Well, it was only £25, and I've been promising I'd get one to this woman I met on OKCupid who let me see hers.

Forest Pines (ForestPines), Tuesday, 20 September 2005 11:21 (twenty years ago)

I knew it! Hah!

The Brocade Fire (kate), Tuesday, 20 September 2005 11:23 (twenty years ago)

"i'll show you mine if you get one soon"?

g-kit (g-kit), Tuesday, 20 September 2005 11:27 (twenty years ago)

I should have known OKCupid would have something to do with it. I hate that site with a passion.

Come Back Johnny B (Johnney B), Tuesday, 20 September 2005 11:29 (twenty years ago)

Something like that, Greg. I'm not telling you exactly which body parts were and weren't involved.

Forest Pines (ForestPines), Tuesday, 20 September 2005 11:32 (twenty years ago)

I WASN'T ASKING

g-kit (g-kit), Tuesday, 20 September 2005 11:34 (twenty years ago)

(have any of you actually seen my OKC profile? You can find it by searching for my gmail.com address, if you have that.)

Forest Pines (ForestPines), Tuesday, 20 September 2005 11:35 (twenty years ago)

I need to update my profile. It's horribly out of date and rather staid.

Come Back Johnny B (Johnney B), Tuesday, 20 September 2005 11:35 (twenty years ago)

Ooh, we'd be a 69% match, apparently.

Forest Pines (ForestPines), Tuesday, 20 September 2005 11:38 (twenty years ago)

i'm spoken for.

g-kit (g-kit), Tuesday, 20 September 2005 11:39 (twenty years ago)

Right, here we go:

http://static.flickr.com/26/45001306_79afaf8d74.jpg?v=0

tissp! (the impossible shortest specia), Tuesday, 20 September 2005 11:57 (twenty years ago)

THREAD! IS! DEAD!
Oh, Thread is dead.

T-I-D, T-I-D, T-I-D
Whoa whoa whoa whoa whoa

tissp! (the impossible shortest specia), Tuesday, 20 September 2005 12:40 (twenty years ago)

I thought it was my fault for killing it, though.

Forest Pines (ForestPines), Tuesday, 20 September 2005 12:41 (twenty years ago)

I missed that! Blimey, I must have been offline.

I was going to ask "what the heck is that, Luke Skywalker on a bad day?" and then realised it was Chris, drunk. Heh.

The Brocade Fire (kate), Tuesday, 20 September 2005 12:41 (twenty years ago)

(I've been trying to answer an impossibly long email from shoegazerboy off OKC myself.)

The Brocade Fire (kate), Tuesday, 20 September 2005 12:42 (twenty years ago)

Incidentally - talking about OKC - if I extend my match radius to 250m you'll never guess who my very best match is!

Forest Pines (ForestPines), Tuesday, 20 September 2005 12:45 (twenty years ago)

Shoegazer boy. Hands off!

The Brocade Fire (kate), Tuesday, 20 September 2005 12:48 (twenty years ago)

Hahaha, no. It's YOU!

Forest Pines (ForestPines), Tuesday, 20 September 2005 12:48 (twenty years ago)

How odd, I tried widening my search to 250 miles and I couldn't find you. Bah.

Oh wait, it's the age thing. Hang on.

The Brocade Fire (kate), Tuesday, 20 September 2005 12:52 (twenty years ago)

Ha ha, 68% match with you Kate! Ha ha!

Come Back Johnny B (Johnney B), Tuesday, 20 September 2005 13:16 (twenty years ago)

I can't get *any* of you to turn up in my matches! What's wrong with this thing? ::shakes computer:: I'm sure it's broken as all I seem to get lately is 40 year old Dr. Who obsessives in Birmingham.

The Brocade Fire (kate), Tuesday, 20 September 2005 13:17 (twenty years ago)

I cheated and searched for your profile, to be honest; but it still gave me the highest percentage match I've seen (81%).

Forest Pines (ForestPines), Tuesday, 20 September 2005 13:18 (twenty years ago)

(and it stayed on top when I widened the search so that you would come up in it. if you see what I mean)

Forest Pines (ForestPines), Tuesday, 20 September 2005 13:19 (twenty years ago)

40 year old Dr. Who obsessives in Birmingham.

It's your destiny

Ste (Fuzzy), Tuesday, 20 September 2005 13:24 (twenty years ago)

What's the worst part about that, the age, the obsessivness, or the Birmingham?

Come Back Johnny B (Johnney B), Tuesday, 20 September 2005 13:37 (twenty years ago)

Definintely the Birmingham.

40 is only 5 years older than me. Weird that I would probably feel less weird dating a 30 year old than a 40 year old, even though it's the same difference. I think I'd just have more in common with a 30 year old.

Obsessiveness is fine - in fact, probably required. ;-)

I've just uploaded a new picture where you can see my face. However, it's the Elephants promo picture where I look positively BONKERS. Heh.

The Brocade Fire (kate), Tuesday, 20 September 2005 13:39 (twenty years ago)

I don't even know any ILXors profiles/usernames... come on, people, I need a good laugh. This day is turning into something very bad for me.

tissp! (the impossible shortest specia), Tuesday, 20 September 2005 13:40 (twenty years ago)

You look strangely like my ex-boyfriend in that photo.

Forest Pines (ForestPines), Tuesday, 20 September 2005 13:41 (twenty years ago)

Aw, TISSP.

This should give you a fairly good laugh:
http://www.okcupid.com/profile?tuid=15707451748515780496

Forest Pines (ForestPines), Tuesday, 20 September 2005 13:42 (twenty years ago)

I need a new photo actually. Maybe you can help me re-write my profile . . .

http://www.okcupid.com/profile?tuid=15856890744442646961

Amazingly, I'm only a 93% match with myself. No wonder I'm unhappy 7% of the time.

Come Back Johnny B (Johnney B), Tuesday, 20 September 2005 13:44 (twenty years ago)

I'm mostly amused by taking the same tests as you guys.

I am *so* not Northern. Heh.

The Brocade Fire (kate), Tuesday, 20 September 2005 13:52 (twenty years ago)

OHMIGOD, GUESS WHAT MY BOSS JUST GAVE ME?!?!?

The Brocade Fire (kate), Tuesday, 20 September 2005 14:07 (twenty years ago)

Your own pointy-nosed sex boy?

Forest Pines (ForestPines), Tuesday, 20 September 2005 14:08 (twenty years ago)

Something unspeakably rude?

A P45?

A Krusty Kreme (or whatever the hell they're called)?

A webcam?

Come Back Johnny B (Johnney B), Tuesday, 20 September 2005 14:08 (twenty years ago)

A COOKIE!!!!

(Where is g-kit? he would be so proud.)

The Brocade Fire (kate), Tuesday, 20 September 2005 14:09 (twenty years ago)

I gave everyone a Jaffa Cake not 10 minutes ago. If only the reactions were as enthusiastic as yours.

Come Back Johnny B (Johnney B), Tuesday, 20 September 2005 14:11 (twenty years ago)

Anyway, I'm off to interview 2 more people for this house. Neither of them are hott chiXorz, and I'm tired and need sleep. Wish me luck!

Come Back Johnny B (Johnney B), Tuesday, 20 September 2005 14:18 (twenty years ago)

Hope it goes well!

The Brocade Fire (kate), Tuesday, 20 September 2005 14:24 (twenty years ago)

i'm back! sorry i missed your cookie moment, kate. i had to... *hmph* ... do some work.

g-kit (g-kit), Tuesday, 20 September 2005 14:33 (twenty years ago)

The cookie has just made me sugarshocked and sleepy.

And the bloody database isn't working... grrrr.

The Brocade Fire (kate), Tuesday, 20 September 2005 14:33 (twenty years ago)

i gonna sort out all me clothes and get everything washed and ironed and stuff for me HOLLY DAY tonight. whee!

g-kit (g-kit), Tuesday, 20 September 2005 14:37 (twenty years ago)

Hurrah for holiday! Have a nice one! Three more days until mine starts. Sigh.

The Brocade Fire (kate), Tuesday, 20 September 2005 14:39 (twenty years ago)

I'm so pissed off I could scream right now.

The apple people were all "your computer will be fixed by tomorrow, but of course we'll call you"

Have they called me? Have they called me, fuck.

Does that mean that my computer isn't fixed? Or does it just mean that they are stupid f*cking idiots who are incapable of doing what they say they will?

If the computer isn't fixed, I might as well cancel rehearsal. If I have to cancel rehearal, we might as well cancel the gig because I'm not going onstage at Cargo unrehearsed. IF MY COMPUTER ISN'T READY THEN I AM GOING TO GO AND THROW THINGS. Sigh.

The Brocade Fire (kate), Tuesday, 20 September 2005 15:34 (twenty years ago)

Wow they really do suck.

beanz (beanz), Tuesday, 20 September 2005 15:53 (twenty years ago)

The apple people were all "your computer will be fixed by tomorrow, but of course we'll call you"

Uh oh was this in writing? (Notice that the "i" and "u" are RIGHT NEXT TO EACH OTHER on the keyboard!)

OleM (OleM), Tuesday, 20 September 2005 16:04 (twenty years ago)

i spelled "sophisticated" wrong on 130 press releases :(

emsk ( emsk), Tuesday, 20 September 2005 16:09 (twenty years ago)

SOFISTIKATED

Come Back Johnny B (Johnney B), Wednesday, 21 September 2005 06:36 (twenty years ago)

Morning! Time for a tea break so I can wake up before doing any real work.

Today, I have a meeting. I've been invited as the Technical Expert. Unfortunately, the meeting is about connecting two different types of widget which I know hardly anything about. Lovely.

More tea?

Forest Pines (ForestPines), Wednesday, 21 September 2005 06:38 (twenty years ago)

Blimey! how nice it is that Forest revived the thread for me!

First order of the day - MY LAPTOP IS BACK!!!

I went there ready to throw a complete humpty - noticed the girl from yesterday was avoiding catching my eye. So this other bloke takes my pickup slip. Comes back and he has to consult the girl anyway and she's all "why does this look familiar?" so I kind of smile and roar "because you saw me yesterday". (I am taking notes from Captain Anderson. Growling at people is really effective.)

Anyway, she takes me slip and disappears for 20 minutes. FINALLY comes back with the laptop and the technician looking very apologetic and explains that "logic board problem" = the speakers don't work. I just burst out laughing. I roared "IS THAT ALL?!?!?! THE SPEAKERS NEVER WORKED, I TOLD THE BLOKE THAT WHEN I CHECKED IT IN!!!"

Technician bloke says that's covered by the warantee then, so would I like him to fix it? "Will only take a day or two!" I tell him I don't believe him and I want my puter NOW.

Anyway. After all that, in the end they didn't charge me for labour as "an apology for the delay". I was quite pleased with that - it seemed a very diplomatic move after all that faffing and losing my computer and delays and the like.

So all's well that ends well.

Anyway, busy day today. Big meeting with the big boss at 10 which I have an awful feeling will go awfully. Argh. How many different ways can I say "Querix doesn't work. Therefore JC-INFO doesn't work. Therefore the report viewer doesn't work. No, I can't fix it. And by the way, it doesn't balance, never has and never will. So stop asking." grrrrrrrrr.

Growling was really effective last night - I wonder if it will be as effective to growl during the meeting today. You know it's a bad sign when 2 people waylay you at your desk before you've even run the morning reports.

The Brocade Fire (kate), Wednesday, 21 September 2005 06:46 (twenty years ago)

i'm feeling your laptop pain!
i phoned the guitar shop last night to see if they'd managed to get my new pickups from their supplier yet, only to be told "yeah, they came in last week. we left a message on your answerphone."
fine, fine. except i've had no missed calls on my mobile, and i don't have an answerphone, assholes!
now i have to rush there after work and drop it into the shop tonight, and i have rehearsal tomorrow, so i'll have to be all "please can you do it before you close tomorrow cos i need it?" and they'll be like "no, you shoulda brought it in ages ago."

gnnnnnnngh fuxache!

g-kit (g-kit), Wednesday, 21 September 2005 06:46 (twenty years ago)

we left a message on your answerphone."
fine, fine. except i've had no missed calls on my mobile, and i don't have an answerphone, assholes!

Yeah, this is always the excuse they try with me, and it's like BUSTED!!! I've not got an answerphone you fool. Don't know who you left the message with, you freaking pothead, but it wasn't me.

Anyway, the SUPER IMPORTANT THING that blokey kept coming over and pestering me about was a request that had already been logged yesterday. (She came over and asked me when I was really busy, I said "send me an email" - she didn't send it until 5pm that afternoon. NOT GETTING IT TODAY, SUCKAH, DON'T BOTHER MARKING IT HIGH PRIORITY!!!)

Any emails marked HIGH PRIORITY I automatically send to a folder in the bowels of my inbox. As a matter of course.

The Brocade Fire (kate), Wednesday, 21 September 2005 06:55 (twenty years ago)

i'm gonna be worrying about this all day now. i really really really want it for tomorrow, cos i'm on holiday next week and... well, i won't be able to try it out nice & loud for ages! waaaah! plus, i didn't get to go "BUSTED ASSHOLES!" because i waffled something about having a new phone to them, but when i hung up, i checked my settings and (as expected) no answerphone.
waaaaaaaaaaaaaah!
i want it, i want it, i want it! *stamps feet*

g-kit (g-kit), Wednesday, 21 September 2005 07:00 (twenty years ago)

Don't stamp your feet. Growl; it's far more effective.

And I don't mean just talk in a threatening tone, I mean actually growl. In the back of your throat, almost inaudibly, like you're doing it subconsciously. I've found this *very* effective both in the office and at the Apple Stores.

Shops assistants and repairpeople are far more inclined to deal with you as quickly as possible and get you out of the shop if they think you're genuinely bonkers and liable to explode at any minute. ;-)

The Brocade Fire (kate), Wednesday, 21 September 2005 07:30 (twenty years ago)

Good morning
Yay laptop return. Growling sounds incredibly effective. Manic laughter works well too. "The van broke down? A-hah-hah-hah-hah-haaahh!"

beanz (beanz), Wednesday, 21 September 2005 07:33 (twenty years ago)

i'm a bit too sappy to growl.

g-kit (g-kit), Wednesday, 21 September 2005 07:42 (twenty years ago)

Put tiger stripes in your hair and then you will feel better at growling!

(Or at least tabby stripes for the "aaauuuuuuuwwww" annoyed cat sound.)

The Brocade Fire (kate), Wednesday, 21 September 2005 07:44 (twenty years ago)

Try hissing?

beanz (beanz), Wednesday, 21 September 2005 07:45 (twenty years ago)

Morning! *yawns & stretches*
Good to see you yesterday Kate! *hugglez* Glad your laptop is back & you girls can now properly rock out!

Panther Pink (Pinkpanther), Wednesday, 21 September 2005 07:47 (twenty years ago)

oh, meow :(

g-kit (g-kit), Wednesday, 21 September 2005 07:49 (twenty years ago)

::huggleZ::

Yes, that was fantastic! Totally unexpected and completely great!

Cannot wait to see your new trainers, they're so PRETTY.

Anyway, I need to get ready for my meeting now. Sigh.

The Brocade Fire (kate), Wednesday, 21 September 2005 07:50 (twenty years ago)

Cannot wait to see your new trainers, they're so PRETTY.
Me either!! I had such a great time at the NIKE ID studio, it was so much fun, although really difficult to make an actual decision on the final product.

Panther Pink (Pinkpanther), Wednesday, 21 September 2005 07:52 (twenty years ago)

I think you definitely made the right choice - especially on the colours.

The Brocade Fire (kate), Wednesday, 21 September 2005 07:56 (twenty years ago)

They were such pretty colours!

Panther Pink (Pinkpanther), Wednesday, 21 September 2005 07:59 (twenty years ago)

Morning all. I assume that I've got to work just in time for everyone else to disappear off to meetings again...

Anyway, glad yr laptop is back and working Kate, and don't worry about the meeting FP, I'm always being dragged into meetings to talk about things I know nothing about. I imagine that they probably know I don't know much about it, and just want me there for a laugh, or alternatively, there's been some kind of communication breakdown somewhere along the line and everyone's got the misguided notion that I am an unmitigated genius.

tissp! (the impossible shortest specia), Wednesday, 21 September 2005 08:17 (twenty years ago)

EWVerybody's having trouble with shopes etc yesterday. Remember I said I was going to interview new housemates? Well, we picked up the key from the letting agent, went down to the house on the other saide of town - lock fitted, but door no open! Oh, looky, there's another key.

SO we ring back the agency and, after much too-ing and fro-ing, it transpires that the landlord's wife came round, locked the door with another key, and didn't bother giving it to the agency! Growl, indeed. SO we phoned up the half dozen p[eople who were coming along and told them to come tomorrow, and made swure that the landlord would drop the key into the letting agency for us.

Why are people so rubbish? WHat is wrong with the human race? They keep doing rubbish things! STOP BEING RUBBISH! GROWL!

Come Back Johnny B (Johnney B), Wednesday, 21 September 2005 08:20 (twenty years ago)

It's official "drive like a twat" day in Cambridge today it seems.

tissp! (the impossible shortest specia), Wednesday, 21 September 2005 08:21 (twenty years ago)

The reason why lion roars are scary is because of the low-level frequencies which we sense but can't hear (this has been proven by science, I saw it on the telly) so growling at the back of your throat does make a difference - people are perturbed, but can't think why.

Come Back Johnny B (Johnney B), Wednesday, 21 September 2005 08:22 (twenty years ago)

if i growl at them, they might mistreat my baby.

g-kit (g-kit), Wednesday, 21 September 2005 08:23 (twenty years ago)

cookie time! i might make use of the digital camera here at work to take lots of pictures of the Jag, then go growl at them, then when they put a dirty great scratch down it, i can be all like "that wasn't there when i gave it to you! I HAVE PROOF!!!1"

g-kit (g-kit), Wednesday, 21 September 2005 08:30 (twenty years ago)

Morning all. I have almost nothing to do today (admin asst, joy) and the boss is "working from home". So it's gonna be a long, but relaxed, day. Entertain me.

Crackity (Crackity Jones), Wednesday, 21 September 2005 08:51 (twenty years ago)

Garg. Snurfle. Help me.

DO NOT PESTER THE MI PERSON.

Can I have a minion, please?

More later...

The Brocade Fire (kate), Wednesday, 21 September 2005 08:59 (twenty years ago)

looksy, it's my motherfucking jag:
http://www.kittenrecords.co.uk/slypics/gkit_jag.jpg

that's entertainment!

g-kit (g-kit), Wednesday, 21 September 2005 09:01 (twenty years ago)

Oh that doesn't sound good – share when you can! xpost

Aw man lookit that axe

beanz (beanz), Wednesday, 21 September 2005 09:17 (twenty years ago)

Ohmigod, that Jag is beautiful!

Sorry, it's just been the day that everyone ordained was LET'S BUG THE MI PERSON DAY!!! and I got requests for about 3 little stupid stuff out of the database on top of having this big huge MI meeting about my Big Boss trying to balance 3 different departments wanting conflicting things out of the database.

And add to that the Database Admin stuff JUST ISN'T WORKING!!! but finally the person who was doing it has come back from her holiday so I can just say "ask her, I don't know!" If they want me to be a database admin, I'm perfectly happy to do it, but they need to get the PRECIOUS DATABASE DEVELOPER TO GIVE ME THE RIGHT ACCESS TO IT ARGH.

I can just tell it's going to be one of those days. Why are people so rubbish? I'm just going to look at that guitar some more now. Ah, lovely guitar.

The Brocade Fire (kate), Wednesday, 21 September 2005 09:38 (twenty years ago)

waaaaaah! i just phoned them. they can't fit my pickups by tomorrow evening. i have to take it in on friday, and i guess i'll have to get my brother to collect it while i'm on holly-day. waaah...

g-kit (g-kit), Wednesday, 21 September 2005 09:47 (twenty years ago)

One more person just asked for something. I actually referred her to my boss. I'm so glad when I can do that, heh.

The Brocade Fire (kate), Wednesday, 21 September 2005 09:49 (twenty years ago)

is it lunchtime yet?

I'm so glad. I solved the problem at my first attempt. Hurrah. Now can I have the rest of the day off?

Hey, JB, remember that Katie Fox book about Watching The English and how it had a special chapter about why the English view real estate agents as the total minions of Satan? Why are trying so hard to prove it in your case?> heh.

The Brocade Fire (kate), Wednesday, 21 September 2005 09:58 (twenty years ago)

And is it me, or is ILX particularly turning into a set of barbershop mirrors today? I'm really confused.

The Brocade Fire (kate), Wednesday, 21 September 2005 10:04 (twenty years ago)

Ooooooooooooooh... Goodbye my Coney Island ba-by, farewell my...

oh wait. barbershop mirrors. aw. shame.

g-kit (g-kit), Wednesday, 21 September 2005 10:06 (twenty years ago)

Barbershop quartets are good, too!

"Sweet caaaar-ooooooo-liiiiine...."

(Or is that a Velvet Underground song, I can't really tell.)

The Brocade Fire (kate), Wednesday, 21 September 2005 10:17 (twenty years ago)

Food tastes so gooood today after lots of red wine last night!

Panther Pink (Pinkpanther), Wednesday, 21 September 2005 10:22 (twenty years ago)

i ADORE barbershop quartets.

g-kit (g-kit), Wednesday, 21 September 2005 10:23 (twenty years ago)

I love anything with harmonies, including barbershop!

Food... mmmm. Food tasted so good after I finally got home last night. But my lunch today is very boring and it doesn't look like I'm ever going to get to take it.

And argh the company owner is smoking cigars again, way to kill my appetite. Sigh.

The Brocade Fire (kate), Wednesday, 21 September 2005 10:26 (twenty years ago)

I need more food!

Panther Pink (Pinkpanther), Wednesday, 21 September 2005 10:30 (twenty years ago)

I am taking my lunch now, like it or not. Maybe I should go outside to do so no one can pester me.

The Brocade Fire (kate), Wednesday, 21 September 2005 10:31 (twenty years ago)

I'm getting a trip out this afternoon, to go install computers at our new branch. Woo!

(the new branch manager is rather stressed this morning because the radio adverts went out a day early - he is worried that the not-officially-open branch will be full of customers going "eee, it doesn't look very good in here - it's not finished!")

Forest Pines (ForestPines), Wednesday, 21 September 2005 10:31 (twenty years ago)

I want to go on a trip to a branch! Humph!

Actually, my boss did suggest this a while ago. Where do I want a free trip to? Brighton? Manchester? Cambridge?

The Brocade Fire (kate), Wednesday, 21 September 2005 10:37 (twenty years ago)

Cambridge!

tissp! (the impossible shortest specia), Wednesday, 21 September 2005 10:39 (twenty years ago)

Since the Cambridge FAP-o-Walk has been swept under the carpet again...

Is anyone interested in Alton Towers next week BTW?

tissp! (the impossible shortest specia), Wednesday, 21 September 2005 10:39 (twenty years ago)

Actually, the guy who keeps hassling me about the Pipeline report is in Cambridge. We might just be on to something here!

The Brocade Fire (kate), Wednesday, 21 September 2005 10:42 (twenty years ago)

Where does he work Kate? Do you want me to go and rough him up a bit for you?

tissp! (the impossible shortest specia), Wednesday, 21 September 2005 10:43 (twenty years ago)

See, we don't have branches in nice places like Brighton, Manchester or Cambridge. We *do* have branches in Doncaster, Scunthorpe and Hull.

Forest Pines (ForestPines), Wednesday, 21 September 2005 10:44 (twenty years ago)

Ooh, donny. Classy.

tissp! (the impossible shortest specia), Wednesday, 21 September 2005 10:46 (twenty years ago)

FP, dude, we have branches in places where people can afford to buy houses and afford to pay someone else to sort out the finance and lawyering for them, and considering our base rate client fee, that's people who buy posh luxury houses, oh yeah.

(I lie and say that I only read Country Life so I can do research on what properties people are actually willing to pay £1.5 million and up on.)

The Brocade Fire (kate), Wednesday, 21 September 2005 10:46 (twenty years ago)

> And argh the company owner is smoking cigars again

ha, i feel your pain. only it's not cigars but spliffs here.

koogs (koogs), Wednesday, 21 September 2005 13:12 (twenty years ago)

I would quit if people smoked spliffs in the office.

I mean, not many banks will let you sit around with a pint on your desk like the ad agency used to! hah.

The Brocade Fire (kate), Wednesday, 21 September 2005 13:14 (twenty years ago)

"it's ok", he says, "there's hardly any tobacco in it". wtf?

koogs (koogs), Wednesday, 21 September 2005 13:27 (twenty years ago)

Well, go get yourself a fifth of vodka. Start mixing yourself drinks at work. If he complains, say "well, there's hardly any coke in it!"

The Brocade Fire (kate), Wednesday, 21 September 2005 13:30 (twenty years ago)

I don't think I could handle spliffs at work. It reminds me I'm at work, to start with. How does the chap get any work done? Or do you live in NathanBarleyLand where doing actual work is an optional extra? Same with pints at work - it's bad enough coming back from the pub after lunch full of beer and try and summon enough energy to do anything, but if there was beer on my desk . . .well, these databases would never get written. Which would, of course, be a disaster.

Come Back Johnny B (Johnney B), Wednesday, 21 September 2005 13:43 (twenty years ago)

I get sleepy enough from lunch. A spliff would make me totally useless. Beer too.

beanz (beanz), Wednesday, 21 September 2005 14:16 (twenty years ago)

I miss people saying "spliff".

(hi beanz!)

Cristal Waters (nordicskilla), Wednesday, 21 September 2005 14:18 (twenty years ago)

i prefer 'miff'.

g-kit (g-kit), Wednesday, 21 September 2005 14:18 (twenty years ago)

Today I hate:

-potheads
-skinny people
-anyone who makes demands of the MI department

Have I missed anyone out there?

The Brocade Fire (kate), Wednesday, 21 September 2005 14:28 (twenty years ago)

Music store employees.

g-kit (g-kit), Wednesday, 21 September 2005 14:29 (twenty years ago)

-skinny people

Hey!

Ste (Fuzzy), Wednesday, 21 September 2005 14:30 (twenty years ago)

> Have I missed anyone out there?

men? 8)

koogs (koogs), Wednesday, 21 September 2005 14:34 (twenty years ago)

(Hi adam!)

beanz (beanz), Wednesday, 21 September 2005 15:33 (twenty years ago)

I don't hate men! Unless they won't sleep with me. ;-)

The Brocade Fire (kate), Wednesday, 21 September 2005 15:47 (twenty years ago)

Omigod, yes! D@r@ wants to hire a houseboat when she's here! Par-tay! Excellent! (I wonder if we can put it on Pop, heh, probably not.) She gets here 22nd November. Even if it's icey and snowy we're gonna be sailing. Hurrah!

The Brocade Fire (kate), Wednesday, 21 September 2005 15:56 (twenty years ago)

Blimey, today is a bad day already and it's not even 9am.

God, I have never been so much looking forward to some days off next week. There really is a limit to how much stress you can put on an employee before they break.

Gonna try and not spend so much time on ILX today and reduce my "to do" list, no matter what a good procrasturbation technique it is getting drawn into tedious arguments. Honest.

How is everyone else? g-kit are you on holiday yet? I'm jealous.

The Brocade Fire (kate), Thursday, 22 September 2005 07:00 (twenty years ago)

Hahaha, I'll have to remember the word "procrasturbation".

I don't have any time off until a week tomorrow, when I'm off to spend the weekend at a railway depot in north Wales.

Forest Pines (ForestPines), Thursday, 22 September 2005 07:18 (twenty years ago)

(Give credit where credit is due - it's Suzy's phrase! And I thank her for it. Muchly.)

Railway depot? That sounds exciting. What are you going there for?

The Brocade Fire (kate), Thursday, 22 September 2005 07:19 (twenty years ago)

Hi
Got a meeting later and I can't help thinking I should be doing some more preparation for it. But i can't think what else there might be. I guess it's just an extension of the feeling of not having done my homework - I get that every single Sunday night. Also - have I packed my games kit?

beanz (beanz), Thursday, 22 September 2005 07:34 (twenty years ago)

Morning! Today is a good day so far!

Panther Pink (Pinkpanther), Thursday, 22 September 2005 07:38 (twenty years ago)

I always get that feeling before a meeting. Even the one yesterday, which I was prepared for, and did fine in - in fact, identified the problem in under an hour.

I think everyone hates meetings. It is the way of things.

I know I haven't done my homework. I can't focus. I should go to the doctor on Monday and sort this out.

However! I've got a hairdresser's appointment on Monday! With the amazing cool Japanese stylist/colourist of joy who does the other Shimura girls' hair. I'm excited about this cause she's really good. Small things to look forward to. Hurrah.

x-post, morning Pink!

The Brocade Fire (kate), Thursday, 22 September 2005 07:39 (twenty years ago)

morning guys. slightly hungover this morrow but nothing a bit of ice cold water can't sort out.

yes meetings kinda suck, but my monthly team meets are great. i get to travel down to brisotl for the day although the meetings usually last 4 hours tops, we get to go to harry ramsdens for lunch, and there's only 3 of us.

Ste (Fuzzy), Thursday, 22 September 2005 08:08 (twenty years ago)

Wow, I just did it.

I just emailed my mum and my brother and told them I'm not getting together with them at Christmas. I feel sick to my stomach with fear, but I'm glad I've said it.

Christmas is always a difficult time of year for me, for many reasons. And I just can *not* deal with my family when they are all together. It's intensely unpleasant. The combination of a stressful time of year and a horrible emotionally unpleasant experience like my family all getting together is more than I can bear.

So I'm just not doing it. Wow. I don't care if that makes me selfish or inconsiderate or a bad daughter, I'm just not doing it.

Hope yer hangover gets better, Ste. Your meetings sound like fun. Wish ours involved lunch, that would be better.

The Brocade Fire (kate), Thursday, 22 September 2005 08:12 (twenty years ago)

that's intense kate, what will you do instead? i always get called a humbug by my sister because i spend christmas alone.

Ste (Fuzzy), Thursday, 22 September 2005 08:21 (twenty years ago)

Emsk is having a "waifs and strays" party at her house, cause her parents are off in Southeast Asia for a few years.

In the past, I've usually spent Christmas with friends, often with Ex Pats who gather together because they can't be with their families.

As soon as I was able to avoid family Xmases, I always spent it in NYC - I had a friend whose birthday was on Xmas so she was always looking for an excuse to throw a party that was not Xmas related.

The Brocade Fire (kate), Thursday, 22 September 2005 08:30 (twenty years ago)

funnily enough i am spending my christmas this year in NYC, for the first time. highly excited.

Ste (Fuzzy), Thursday, 22 September 2005 08:38 (twenty years ago)

Christmas in NYC is GRATE!!! I used to have such a wonderful time, the lights, the snow, the shopping. They really go all out on the decorations and the window displays.

The Brocade Fire (kate), Thursday, 22 September 2005 08:39 (twenty years ago)

hey hey.

i'm not on holiday yet. i leave on sunday, so i'll be around tomorrow, too. really busy today though.
band praccy tonight, yay.

g-kit (g-kit), Thursday, 22 September 2005 08:40 (twenty years ago)

Good morning! I appear to be wandering into work later and later recently.

tissp! (the impossible shortest specia), Thursday, 22 September 2005 08:42 (twenty years ago)

ah the snow is something i'm really hoping for, as i haven't seen a good snow fall for some years now. tho there was about 15 minutes of a lovely flurry down pour late xmas day last year, me and my friend were stood outside with a pint in our hands just being quiet and loving it.

Ste (Fuzzy), Thursday, 22 September 2005 08:45 (twenty years ago)

(well a pint each, we weren't holding the same pint glass between us)

Ste (Fuzzy), Thursday, 22 September 2005 08:46 (twenty years ago)

Yay, g-kit. Band practise is perhaps why I'm so blasted today. Neither Anna nor I had any energy left, so it was a bit difficult getting a giggle on. I tried getting cookies to replenish our blood sugar and bounciness, but they made me feel ill! :-(

TISSP, if I were your boss I'd have a word about your tardiness! What time do you call this? Hmmm?

Ah, Ste, that sounds lovely. It's not always a white Xmas in NYC, but far more likely than in England. OK, that's the one thing I will miss by not going to America for Xmas is snow - but perhaps I'll go and visit my mum in February or something when I know there will be snow.

The Brocade Fire (kate), Thursday, 22 September 2005 08:50 (twenty years ago)

Good on you kate, well done for being so brave! *hugs*

Panther Pink (Pinkpanther), Thursday, 22 September 2005 08:52 (twenty years ago)

Railway depot? That sounds exciting. What are you going there for?

They are giving me - and plenty of other people - a free weekend and a look around in the hope of persuading us to do some volunteer work for them in the future.

Today, I have been shifting my desk into my New Temporary Office. It's a lot bigger than the old one, and it actually has windows, but on the other hand my monitor's visible from the door and I don't get much warning of visitors.

Forest Pines (ForestPines), Thursday, 22 September 2005 09:17 (twenty years ago)

aw bummer

Ste (Fuzzy), Thursday, 22 September 2005 09:23 (twenty years ago)

I have the same problem, but nobody in this building seems to give a hoot. i can't stop playing solitaire on my desktop lately, my highest score is 6121.

Ste (Fuzzy), Thursday, 22 September 2005 09:47 (twenty years ago)

I am also moving office, as I have been redeployed to a different project! Although my actual desk move isn't until the end of next week probably, as there is a backlog that needs to be cleared. Or something.

I will be in the same office as the people I get on best with at work though, so I'm excited. However, I will have my back to the room, so won't have fair warning when things get thrown at me...

tissp! (the impossible shortest specia), Thursday, 22 September 2005 09:55 (twenty years ago)

...no reply from my mum yet...

this is a bad sign. I've probably really offended her.

The Brocade Fire (kate), Thursday, 22 September 2005 10:30 (twenty years ago)

So much for my lunch... called in to continue the discussion of this morning. Haven't been able to write shoegazer boy back a proper reply (and anyway, AMP reckons I'm spending too much time writing to him when I should be getting straight to the first date with everyone ASAP no mucking about. But the emails are *fun*!) and is it me, or is there a rare window when ILX is peaceful that only happens between California going to bed and NY waking up?

The Brocade Fire (kate), Thursday, 22 September 2005 11:58 (twenty years ago)

My office is so peaceful (apart from the ever-present loud fan noise) that I'm falling asleep here.

Forest Pines (ForestPines), Thursday, 22 September 2005 12:27 (twenty years ago)

I've got so much cooking right now that I don't know which thing to try and deal with first. Argh.

The Brocade Fire (kate), Thursday, 22 September 2005 12:29 (twenty years ago)

i'm busy, so i'm not posting random pap. that probably rather helps the posting lull.

g-kit (g-kit), Thursday, 22 September 2005 12:54 (twenty years ago)

Why do I let things upset me? Just a random comment from Stelfox about "why does every thread you post to end up in an argument?" This really bugs me, and I don't know what.

1) That's not even true. Plenty of threads I've started/been on have not had any kind of argument on them.

2) The only threads I post to that end up in arguments are threads on controversial topics, and honestly, a thread about, for example, weight issues or drug abuse does *not* need me to turn into an argument.

There are dozens of opinionated posters that statement could be true of - including, notably, Stelfox. Why am I singled out for this? Grrrrrrr.

These past couple of days on ILX have just been awful. I know it goes in cycles, and it's related to my own mood as much as ILX. What should I do, just shut up, be quiet, and never venture an opinion on ILX again?

God, I hate this report, it just doesn't want to work. Sigh.

The Brocade Fire (kate), Thursday, 22 September 2005 12:59 (twenty years ago)

I probably shouldn't have posted that. I just need a whinge.

I should move on and work on something I know I can do easily. Sigh.

The Brocade Fire (kate), Thursday, 22 September 2005 13:00 (twenty years ago)

I don't need to find more reasons to beat myself up today, really.

The Brocade Fire (kate), Thursday, 22 September 2005 13:01 (twenty years ago)

Kate I'm sure he didn't mean it maliciously, try not to let it worry you.

Panther Pink (Pinkpanther), Thursday, 22 September 2005 13:03 (twenty years ago)

I'm sure he *did* mean it maliciously, which is probably why it bothers me. Whatever.

You get judged by your worst moments, not your best.

The Brocade Fire (kate), Thursday, 22 September 2005 13:05 (twenty years ago)

Waaaah meetings from 9.45am to 2pm with only a couple of bathroom breaks. Don't know if I can summon the energy for this afternoon now. But at least there's not much of it lef tnow I'm back from lunch.

For lunch I went to Ponti's, a chain of cafés as you probably know. Apparently they were set up by Pontin, the guy behind the holiday camps, and he wanted to make them sound Italian so he just knocked the N off.

All threads have arguments on them.

beanz (beanz), Thursday, 22 September 2005 13:05 (twenty years ago)

i really wouldn't worry about it. people throw lazy generalisations around all the time, law of average dictates that sooner or later one will hit a nerve, possibly to somebody's horror or delight. that's the nature of these things. it sure wouldn't take a great deal of insight or wry perceptiveness to do this purposefully to a vast majority of human beings, so it's hardly a great achievement if somebody succeeds purposefully, and on the flipside, i'm equally sure a large proportion of posters would be mortified if something flippant they fired off genuinely upset someone.

lemon and pancakes, fits and spurts, yo.

g-kit (g-kit), Thursday, 22 September 2005 13:07 (twenty years ago)

Talking of people getting upset over stuff, here's an almost-verbatim conversation from *my* office today:

A departmental general manager: "We phoned you [the other IT Support chap] 10 minutes ago and you didn't come! When we phone IT with a problem, you need to be in our office instantly"

The Other IT Support Chap: "I'm sorry, but we've got too many other fucking things to do! Fucking everyone in this company thinks we should come running as soon as they fucking phone, but we can't be everywhere at once! I've had it up to fucking here with this shit."

And, he stormed off.

Forest Pines (ForestPines), Thursday, 22 September 2005 13:08 (twenty years ago)

If I wasn't a little bit ashamed and embarrassed by my behaviour yesterday (I started on that thread, thinking that it was just an exchange of ideas. Within a few posts, it became very obvious that it was just developing into an argument. Did I walk away? No, because I was in a pissy mood and felt like getting into an argument about something that didn't matter a jot to me. Is that responsible and grown up? No, not really.) then this wouldn't be bugging me.

I tried ringing my doctor today to get a refill on my prescription but I forgot they're closed on Thursday afternoons. :-(

I should put this report away as it's just not going to work but I can't leave it alone.

x-post a bundle...

The Brocade Fire (kate), Thursday, 22 September 2005 13:09 (twenty years ago)

x-post, Forest, I know exactly how that IT support guy feels.

Look, I'm closing the bad report. I'm closing it now and putting it away and waiting until the developer gets back to me.

The Brocade Fire (kate), Thursday, 22 September 2005 13:10 (twenty years ago)

I feel the same way as him, to be honest, but I manage to repress it better.

Forest Pines (ForestPines), Thursday, 22 September 2005 13:11 (twenty years ago)

i haven't got a fucking clue what "lemons and pancakes, fits and spurts" means. but it's so going in my next song.

g-kit (g-kit), Thursday, 22 September 2005 13:13 (twenty years ago)

That just suddenly reminded me that I've got my laptop back, and I can spend all weekend writing and recording the songs that have been bouncing around in my head. Hurrah, get happy!

The Brocade Fire (kate), Thursday, 22 September 2005 13:17 (twenty years ago)

get happy, get biscuits!

g-kit (g-kit), Thursday, 22 September 2005 13:18 (twenty years ago)

No, no, after the cookies last night made me so ill.

(Have you ever felt like you're going to do a sick while you're singing? And you get a baby burp type thing? It's awful!)

I'm back in my Access database which is perfection personified and so easy to deal with after the monsters. I am the admin, it's MINE ALL MINE and I am all powerful and don't have to deal with devs on holidays.

The Brocade Fire (kate), Thursday, 22 September 2005 13:20 (twenty years ago)

I tried flexing my creative juices with a bit of mucical software last night to compose a masterpiece but i think i just ended up upsetting my neighbours. i managed to make the sound from 'close encounters' though.

Ste (Fuzzy), Thursday, 22 September 2005 13:21 (twenty years ago)

OOh, that sounds cool!

That was the best thing about last night, getting to play Neufriend as LOUD AS I LIKED without worrying about the neighbours. It has really abrasive anti-cat-and-dog-moog-tone organ on it. Yeah.

DAS IS NICHT MEIN BOYFRIEND
DAS IS NICHT MEIN BOYFRIEND
DAS IS NICHT MEIN BOYFRIEND
DAS IS MEINE... NEUFRIEND!!!!!

The Brocade Fire (kate), Thursday, 22 September 2005 13:22 (twenty years ago)

Ew, Access

(shudder)

Forest Pines (ForestPines), Thursday, 22 September 2005 13:23 (twenty years ago)

Have you ever felt like you're going to do a sick while you're singing?

yes! at our last show. this is my lack of fitness showing through. i'm not as young as i used to be, and throwing myself around while playing guitar and not getting enough breath due to singing, i genuinely felt like i was going to spew during our last song. i hadn't even been drinking, but also hadn't had a proper dinner. but it's definitely a fitness thing. never happens at practices, but i guess i cut loose a little more on stage.

g-kit (g-kit), Thursday, 22 September 2005 13:26 (twenty years ago)

At least I have access to the back end of it. It's hell trying to interrogate someone else's manky database with a reporting tool and having no access whatsoever to the coding side of it.

All I want is ONE LITTLE SCRIPT that would negate two days worth of writing subreports and trying to link varying tables together that don't want to be related. And I can't do it.

x-post

The Brocade Fire (kate), Thursday, 22 September 2005 13:27 (twenty years ago)

Things are being thrown at me in the new office, which I have temporarily moved to earlier until my desk is transferred properly. It's an exciting game of Russian roulette working here.

Kate (many xposts here), why shouldn't you just stop expressing yr opinion etc etc? Because then ILX would be FUCKING BORING, that's why.

tissp! (the impossible shortest specia), Thursday, 22 September 2005 14:00 (twenty years ago)

haha otm

Ste (Fuzzy), Thursday, 22 September 2005 14:01 (twenty years ago)

But what if I'm finding ILX in its current state really fucking boring?

Anyway, enough with the whinging. Why are people in your office throwing things at you?

The Brocade Fire (kate), Thursday, 22 September 2005 14:06 (twenty years ago)

lady, if ya have to ask...

g-kit (g-kit), Thursday, 22 September 2005 14:06 (twenty years ago)

It's just what happens in this office. I have taken sweet retribution though.

tissp! (the impossible shortest specia), Thursday, 22 September 2005 14:08 (twenty years ago)

it must be said tho that ile is slightly garb at the moment, i'm spending most of my time on the games board (which i dismissed as a bad idea at first admittedly).

i logged in to ile at about 9 last night and it was a clutter of MY GIRLFRIEND... parody threads.

Ste (Fuzzy), Thursday, 22 September 2005 14:10 (twenty years ago)

Perhaps we should make it registered us... oh wait

tissp! (the impossible shortest specia), Thursday, 22 September 2005 14:12 (twenty years ago)

Oh yeah!

Friday! Friday! I've got that Friday feeling!

Especially as it will be a FIVE DAY LONG WEEKEND!!!

Get out the party snacks and the chex mix, it's gonna be a good one today.

The Brocade Fire (kate), Friday, 23 September 2005 06:53 (twenty years ago)

certainly is, although mine will only be 3 days long. it will be spent with a bunch of cricketting type fellows in the bussling city of Kettering. won't be taking part in any sport stuff myself but the drinking section of the jolly boys outing certainly appeals to me.

so today will probly drag like a mofo

Ste (Fuzzy), Friday, 23 September 2005 07:01 (twenty years ago)

I've just had the best news cause the Devwoman finally got back to me. Hurrah! Happy happy!

Where the heck is Kettering anyway? I like the name.

The Brocade Fire (kate), Friday, 23 September 2005 07:03 (twenty years ago)

Why has everyone got long weekends except me? Waaaaaaaa!

Going down to the estate agents at lunchtime to give them my paperwork and £540. Then the house is mine - yay!

Come Back Johnny B (Johnney B), Friday, 23 September 2005 07:11 (twenty years ago)

£540 for a house deposit? Wow, what a steal; I'm moving to Oxford.

The Brocade Fire (kate), Friday, 23 September 2005 07:12 (twenty years ago)

Morning
I don't have a long weekend either. Am feeling a bit grumpy today - people sending me badly formatted files to look at, people sending me copy later than they should, my email taking half an hour and counting to download from the server, grr.

beanz (beanz), Friday, 23 September 2005 07:36 (twenty years ago)

I'm sorry grumpy Beanz - I hate it when things go wrong with formatting. Especially with huuuuuuuuuuge files.

But I'm just happy and skipping because it's Friday and because the Devwoman cracked my big problem for me, without my having to hack my own database.

The Brocade Fire (kate), Friday, 23 September 2005 07:40 (twenty years ago)

I've got a stack of bikes to fix, and I should really get on with them, but it's kind of hard to get motivated b/c they're all real cheapies.

Pashmina (Pashmina), Friday, 23 September 2005 07:43 (twenty years ago)

i mean someone brought in this cheap shopper bike they got in a police auction and asked me to "restore" it. It's a piece of shit! I tried to put them off, but they weren't having any of it.

Pashmina (Pashmina), Friday, 23 September 2005 07:46 (twenty years ago)

I feel like leading you all in a Beatles singalong

Fix the bikes! (fix, fix)
Download the mail! (mail, mail)
Recompile the database (compile, compile)
Look at me!
All together now! (all together now!)
All together now! (all together now!)

The Brocade Fire (kate), Friday, 23 September 2005 07:48 (twenty years ago)

Can you charge them more for wasting your time? xpost

Glad the big problem's ok after all Kate. Er, nice song btw. You forgot to add another line for me: "grumble to everyone (grumble, grumble)".

I'm not sure what the problem is with the file I've been sent. It's a company's report and accounts and it's unusually an htm file. (They're usually PDF or Word.) And I don't know if it's a function of my not using IE on a PC or if someone just cocked up, but it's got lines and lines of ÉÉÉÉÉÉÉÉÉÉÉÉÉÉÉÉÉÉÉÉÉÉÉÉ through it and 'tables' that are just lists of numbers with no tabs or lines between them or whatver

beanz (beanz), Friday, 23 September 2005 07:53 (twenty years ago)

That's a bit wrong - that's what usually happens if you try to open a Word or Excel file or something in the inappropriate program (text editor or whatever.) Try opening word and then opening it within that, rather than just double clicking?

No, no, I'm not doing IT helpdesk, argh!

Now it seems that this might not do the trick after all, as there are all kinds of records where the field she suggested IS NULL! argh, oh no.

The Brocade Fire (kate), Friday, 23 September 2005 07:55 (twenty years ago)

*strrreeettccchhhh* Morning guys! I am feeling pretty positive about today, or perhaps I'm just glad it's Friday! Pass those nibbles will ya?

Panther Pink (Pinkpanther), Friday, 23 September 2005 08:00 (twenty years ago)

Resist giving IT advice! It'll lead to heartache. Or maybe heartburn at least.
Tried in Word - the tables are ok now but the text is still fucked:

The financial information set out above does not constitute the Company's statutory
ÊÊÊ financial statements for the years ended 30 June 2005 or 2004 (but is derived from
ÊÊÊ and has been prepared on the same basis as those financial statements). Statutory financialÊÊÊÊÊÊÊÊ statements for 2004 have been delivered to the Registrar of Companies, and those for 2005 will be delivered following the Company's Annual General Meeting.Ê The auditors have reported on those financial statements; their reports were unqualified and did not contain statements under section 237 (2) or (3) of the Companies Act 1985.

beanz (beanz), Friday, 23 September 2005 08:02 (twenty years ago)

Find and Replace the Ês?

Come Back Johnny B (Johnney B), Friday, 23 September 2005 08:08 (twenty years ago)

I don't need to edit it, I need to read it! It's not just Es...
I can't be bothered spending that long on it. Think I'll delegate this one.
Ok moving on... Where's my email?
Ok really moving on. Lie in tomorrow yay

beanz (beanz), Friday, 23 September 2005 08:11 (twenty years ago)

Lie in tomorrow - yay! But then I've got to get up and pack - groan. Does anyone have any handy tips for moving? I just chuck everything in bags/boxes etc with no thought of order or ease-of-unpacking, which can't be right - or is that the way EVERYBODY does it?

Come Back Johnny B (Johnney B), Friday, 23 September 2005 08:14 (twenty years ago)

Lie in tomorrow! Oh yes!

Moving - I generally do the sorting and throwing away and putting different things into different boxes when I move, but then again, I'm kind of anal like that. There was a period when I was moving so often I never bothered taking things out of boxes at all.

The Brocade Fire (kate), Friday, 23 September 2005 08:16 (twenty years ago)

Mr Barlow, I would suggest sorting lots of stuff out before packing & make sure you lable your boxes. keep the kettle out & some cups too!

Panther Pink (Pinkpanther), Friday, 23 September 2005 08:36 (twenty years ago)

Label the bags and boxes with where you'll want them in the new place. So if it takes a while to get round to unpacking, at least you'll know everything in this bag goes here etc
xpost - yes kettle! and toothbrush.

beanz (beanz), Friday, 23 September 2005 08:36 (twenty years ago)

Yeah, pack a suitcase with overnight stuff like you're going to be camping for a weekend. Like you probably will be, but in your new house!

The Brocade Fire (kate), Friday, 23 September 2005 08:38 (twenty years ago)

Good morning. I am in EVEN LATER today. Soon I will not bother turning up at all.

tissp! (the impossible shortest specia), Friday, 23 September 2005 08:53 (twenty years ago)

??????
What time are you supposed to come in? Please say 8am

beanz (beanz), Friday, 23 September 2005 08:58 (twenty years ago)

good morning!

er.. nothing to report, to be honest.

g-kit (g-kit), Friday, 23 September 2005 09:10 (twenty years ago)

When do any of us have anything to report?

Apart from your TERRIBLE TARDINESS, TISSP! (Or perhaps your terrible TARDIS, who knows. Then again, if you had a TARDIS you could go back in time and be early for work every day. Wouldn't that be great?)

I've just had my morning coffee. Does anyone else get territorial about their coffeecups? My favourite Aldous Huxley mug was dirty so I had to make do with my second favourite mug with the Bridges of Venice on it. Sigh.

The Brocade Fire (kate), Friday, 23 September 2005 09:27 (twenty years ago)

i just wanted to say something but had nothing to say :(

g-kit (g-kit), Friday, 23 September 2005 09:29 (twenty years ago)

How about "have a cookie!" or "I prefer Sailor Moon..."

Take it from the Simpsons, catchphrases are everything!

The Brocade Fire (kate), Friday, 23 September 2005 09:31 (twenty years ago)

i don't drink coffee but my god some of the people in this office are a bit protective over their cups, some even have their initials written on the underside.

Ste (Fuzzy), Friday, 23 September 2005 09:34 (twenty years ago)

I'm territorial about 'my' red Edinburgh mug. It reminds me of Edinburgh (I went to uni there) and it's thick so the tea stays hot for longer. Sad really. But I don't make a fuss if someone else uses it. I just make their tea or coffee badly.

beanz (beanz), Friday, 23 September 2005 09:35 (twenty years ago)

a colleague of mine left here a couple of years ago and he gave me his cup as a leaving gift. i had one coffee, left it with dregs, never washed it, and threw it in the bin about 2 months later. he's recently returned to work here but luckily he seems to have forgotten about the cup present.

Ste (Fuzzy), Friday, 23 September 2005 09:43 (twenty years ago)

i didn't eat my cookie yet! i wasn't hungry at teatime, so i'm saving it. updates on cookiemunching as and when they happen.

g-kit (g-kit), Friday, 23 September 2005 09:45 (twenty years ago)

god, i want a cup of tea, so, so badly.

g-kit (g-kit), Friday, 23 September 2005 09:47 (twenty years ago)

My mug was stolen from work :( I really want a "British Tea Power" mug from http://www.britishseapower.co.uk/shop

Theorectically I don't have a time when I'm supposed to be in, but that spoils the fun, so I'll go wtih 9am.

tissp! (the impossible shortest specia), Friday, 23 September 2005 10:13 (twenty years ago)

Ugh! Ugh! I would not trust a British Pee Shower mug. (Though as a marketing idea it's brilliant. I just wish their music wasn't so rubbish.)

The Brocade Fire (kate), Friday, 23 September 2005 10:14 (twenty years ago)

Everyone here has their own mugs - apart from me. I make do with one of the spare ones.

Have just spent the morning down at the shop, rather than at the office. It's not in the best part of town. Conversation:

Shop manager: One good thing about working here is the number of good-looking girls who walk past.
Me: Yes, but they're all pushing prams.
SM: Well, yes, but there's one or two who aren't. In [my home town], that would just be one.

Forest Pines (ForestPines), Friday, 23 September 2005 10:25 (twenty years ago)

Humph! They've just started a "swearing kitty" whereby everyone in the department get fined 10p if they use their catchphrase. (K can't say "man", G can't sing, M can't swear and M2 can't say "theoretically..." or "in theory...") Apparently they decided my catchphrase was "Zuh! Guh! Buh!"

I had no idea I ever said it so much until I started getting fined (let alone what it means.) But now they've started trying to fine me when I say any random ejaculation of consonants. Even when I said "Bah!" as in "Bah, humbug!" when my carrot cake's icing got smooshed. No fair!

The Brocade Fire (kate), Friday, 23 September 2005 10:56 (twenty years ago)

hehe, swearing kitty.

g-kit (g-kit), Friday, 23 September 2005 11:02 (twenty years ago)

Gosh I'm not sure what my catchphrase around the work place could be, it's more than likely to be a swear word in fact.

Ste (Fuzzy), Friday, 23 September 2005 11:05 (twenty years ago)

Any guesses as to what "Zuh guh buh" actually means? I think it might be "Zoinks! Gosh! Blimey!" but I'm not sure.

The Brocade Fire (kate), Friday, 23 September 2005 11:07 (twenty years ago)

"sailor moon"
"cookie"
"meowskas"

g-kit (g-kit), Friday, 23 September 2005 11:07 (twenty years ago)

kate how do you pronounce it?

zoo goo boo

or

zer ger ber

Ste (Fuzzy), Friday, 23 September 2005 11:18 (twenty years ago)

I just wish their music wasn't so rubbish

Kate, you know I like you, but you are insane.

tissp! (the impossible shortest specia), Friday, 23 September 2005 11:34 (twenty years ago)

I just had a shouting match in the pub with someone who believes National ID cards are a great idea. I'm all wound up now.

tissp! (the impossible shortest specia), Friday, 23 September 2005 11:36 (twenty years ago)

Oh no, that's awful!

British Pee Shower are legbreaking rubbish and that's all there is to it. The end.

It's pronounced kind of like Zah Gah Bah, but imagine that as said by Mark E. Smith. It's a bit gutteral and breathy, more like an ejaculation of breath rather than a real word.

The Brocade Fire (kate), Friday, 23 September 2005 11:37 (twenty years ago)

British Pee Shower are legbreaking rubbish and that's all there is to it. The end.

Not the end, I am happy to agree to disagree. I'm too wound up for another argument ;)

tissp! (the impossible shortest specia), Friday, 23 September 2005 11:40 (twenty years ago)

(I haven't actually heard British Pee Shower since 2001, but that's the opinion I formed then and I'm sticking to it.)

The Brocade Fire (kate), Friday, 23 September 2005 11:42 (twenty years ago)

from a.n.other thread:

> it would be great to meet someone to go to Sonic Cathedrals with
> who would get excited every time they play the Boo Radleys.

am very tempted by jim reid / telescopes nature of the next one. they will both, of course, be nothing like my memories and i'll just end up feeling bitter about it. but hey...

mugs. they did the mug thing over on ilx proper a while back and mine hasn't changed (i use the one with the big crack in it, plain yellow, nothing special, but i like the way the flaw makes it unique).

we are currently in code freeze mode, just waiting to start a new batch of testing. has been 12 hours days for the last week so am finding this quite odd.

koogs (koogs), Friday, 23 September 2005 11:51 (twenty years ago)

Argh, that didn't go through. I SAID... come anyway. Even if the bands are rubbish (which they never are - I've never seen a bad band there) the DJing is so fantastic that it really makes up for it. Plus, it's great to peoplewatch all the lovely shoegazer boys and girls in their stripey shirts.

The Brocade Fire (kate), Friday, 23 September 2005 12:01 (twenty years ago)

spripey shirts pwn.
i have about a dozen. no exaggeration! vertical, horizontal, all kindsa colours. i cannae get enough of them. (red and black horizontal today)

g-kit (g-kit), Friday, 23 September 2005 12:03 (twenty years ago)

Wow, I think I have, like, one stripy shirt. It's purple and green, though. Paisley shirts, however... ho boy, I need a whole nother wardrobe just to keep them all.

The Brocade Fire (kate), Friday, 23 September 2005 12:06 (twenty years ago)

I've got lots of stripy shirts too, including my Lucky Shirt.

Forest Pines (ForestPines), Friday, 23 September 2005 12:06 (twenty years ago)

i have only one stripey shirt, it's vertical stripes. but the colours kinda make it look like a pyjama top. i tend not to wear it much.

Ste (Fuzzy), Friday, 23 September 2005 12:08 (twenty years ago)

i have a purple stripey cashmere jumper. it's baggy and snuggly and it's my favourite.

g-kit (g-kit), Friday, 23 September 2005 12:12 (twenty years ago)

That sounds like the best thing ever. I want one!

The Brocade Fire (kate), Friday, 23 September 2005 12:13 (twenty years ago)

And a pygmy mammoth.

The Brocade Fire (kate), Friday, 23 September 2005 12:17 (twenty years ago)

you'll have to fight me for it.

g-kit (g-kit), Friday, 23 September 2005 12:27 (twenty years ago)

The jumper or the pygmy mammoth?

The Brocade Fire (kate), Friday, 23 September 2005 12:28 (twenty years ago)

I'd fight EVERYONE for a pygmy mammoth.

Come Back Johnny B (Johnney B), Friday, 23 September 2005 12:43 (twenty years ago)

Maybe we can all chip in and get one and keep it in the grounds of the ILX Country Mansion that Lixi and I were talking about getting at the last Poptimism.

The Brocade Fire (kate), Friday, 23 September 2005 12:46 (twenty years ago)

um, i meant the jumper.

g-kit (g-kit), Friday, 23 September 2005 12:50 (twenty years ago)

OK, I'm bored now.

The Brocade Fire (kate), Friday, 23 September 2005 13:12 (twenty years ago)

can you get away with playing games and stuff at work?

g-kit (g-kit), Friday, 23 September 2005 13:13 (twenty years ago)

Oh god I want a pygmy mammoth

beanz (beanz), Friday, 23 September 2005 13:14 (twenty years ago)

What's that Professor? You can "keep it in your apartment?"

beanz (beanz), Friday, 23 September 2005 13:15 (twenty years ago)

What kind of games? Solitaire and stuff have been stripped of this puter. :-(

What I really want is witty and entertaining email from random OKC boys, but I've run out. For now. I have plenty of work I should be doing, but I'm too caffeinated and er... post-lunch food coma after that carrot cake.

Heh, my colleague has just started drooling about Krispy Kreme.

x-post

The Brocade Fire (kate), Friday, 23 September 2005 13:16 (twenty years ago)

there's a pictionary-type game on the interweb that's quite good (if you can get away with it)

g-kit (g-kit), Friday, 23 September 2005 13:16 (twenty years ago)

http://www.nps.gov/chis/tusk75.gif

Actually, the pygmy mammoth looks a bit too big to keep in my flat - it's more like pony size when I thought it would be dog sized.

The Brocade Fire (kate), Friday, 23 September 2005 13:18 (twenty years ago)

go into google, type in failure, click i'm feeling lucky

Ste (Fuzzy), Friday, 23 September 2005 13:48 (twenty years ago)

I saw a nice all-over black fender japan jag when I was in the music shop yesterday buying "cubase" and "m-tron". I got all excited till I noticed that it had a fixed bridge, no floating tremelo wtf?

I gave up on the shopper bike. The back wheel was so bent that it couldn't be fixed.

I sold a brompt0n, which was good, except the buyer was a turbo-haggler. I eventually had to tell them, look, I'm actually losing interest inselling this to you, they were so bad w/the beating the price down malarkey.

Pashmina (Pashmina), Friday, 23 September 2005 13:53 (twenty years ago)

My entire office had to have a go at that "failure" thing and everyone has burst out laughing one after another. Cheers for the giggles!

The Brocade Fire (kate), Friday, 23 September 2005 14:01 (twenty years ago)

x-post, what IS the point of a Jag without a floating tremolo? I mean, honestly?

The Brocade Fire (kate), Friday, 23 September 2005 14:10 (twenty years ago)

h that's what I thought. It did look nice in black though! (the headstock facing was black as well)

Pashmina (Pashmina), Friday, 23 September 2005 14:12 (twenty years ago)

My office is now sporadically giggling too, thanks

beanz (beanz), Friday, 23 September 2005 14:18 (twenty years ago)

http://www.theregister.co.uk/2005/09/09/bush_caption.jpg

tissp! (the impossible shortest specia), Friday, 23 September 2005 14:22 (twenty years ago)

I sent that picture to my brother, the reactionary right wing journalist. He sent me back a link to this article:

"I am inexorably forced to the conclusion that Bush is no more than a wolf in sheep’s clothing, a liberal and a globalist who merely pretends to be a conservative. His idiocy is not the product of mistaken advice and it is not the product of tactics: he genuinely believes in every dumb thing he says and every dumb thing he does. He is not our friend; he is just another sector of enemy territory. The Republican establishment does not take grassroots conservatives seriously unless it is forced to. Its priority is its careers and its core agenda is corporatist globalism, dressed up in conservative veneer just thick enough to fool the gullible rednecks. Nothing less than bringing down a Republican president, which would wreck many of their careers personally, will get their attention."

The Brocade Fire (kate), Friday, 23 September 2005 15:08 (twenty years ago)

black jag? oooooooh. sounds purty.
still no word from my mustang brideg contact. bah!

i'm going on holiday tomorrow! yee!

g-kit (g-kit), Saturday, 24 September 2005 07:39 (twenty years ago)

hey... i'm back!
but ... what happened to this thread?
is there a new one?

so confused!

g-kit (g-kit), Tuesday, 4 October 2005 06:50 (twenty years ago)

i always end up having to replace the bottle on the watercooler here in the office. 10 people here so why's it always my turn?

(it died greg, both you and kate were on holiday and the whole thing just imploded)

koogs (koogs), Tuesday, 4 October 2005 07:29 (twenty years ago)

i haven't had a giant chocolate chip cookie for a whole week. it's a wonder i can still function. only 50 minutes til i get one though. whee!

(and ok, i guess that makes sense)

g-kit (g-kit), Tuesday, 4 October 2005 07:39 (twenty years ago)

I assumed that there was a reason that this thread had disappeared, so didn't revive it in case I upset Teh ILX Gods.

tissp! (the impossible shortest specia), Tuesday, 4 October 2005 07:52 (twenty years ago)

well, i had an excuse prepared in the event of Upset ILX Gods.
"i bin on holly-day, i din know! i din know!"

g-kit (g-kit), Tuesday, 4 October 2005 07:54 (twenty years ago)

What's happened? Nothing. NOt even had a cookie. I need to start baking cookies in my new oven in my new house.

Come Back Johnny B (Johnney B), Tuesday, 4 October 2005 08:00 (twenty years ago)

I am back at work today. Bah. I wish I wasn't.

Forest Pines (ForestPines), Tuesday, 4 October 2005 08:12 (twenty years ago)

Hello! I am finally in work, depsite the best efforts of the 59 and whatever accident it was happened on Brixton Hill. Was too busy to revive the water cooler last week, but I'm glad someone has, so thanks g-kit and Koogsy!

Paranoid Spice (kate), Tuesday, 4 October 2005 08:14 (twenty years ago)

I have for once turned up reasonably early! Hurrah! All part of my new healthy regime. I'm actually quite surprised at what making the effort to each much better has actually achieved for me.

tissp! (the impossible shortest specia), Tuesday, 4 October 2005 08:19 (twenty years ago)

To each much better? Heh.

I've been eating much worse. And not exercising at all. And wondering why my health and my mood are shot.

(I'm still disturbed about my dad reading my blog and reading ILX - no idea how he found it. Must have linked to it from my blog or maybe AMP did.)

Paranoid Spice (kate), Tuesday, 4 October 2005 08:24 (twenty years ago)

Anyway, g-kit, how was your holiday?!?!? We wants to know!

Paranoid Spice (kate), Tuesday, 4 October 2005 08:40 (twenty years ago)

oh! it was great, thanks.

i did swimming! i nop done swimming for at least 10 years! it's like riding a bike, fortunately. though i insisted on 3 or 4 races vs my girlfriend a day and lost them all. bah.
it was hothothot though, hard to believe it was september/october. craziness. did lots and lots of drinking, lots and lots of cocktails, and didn't even make a sick.
went to the mosaic museum and wandered around the villa of theseus. not a minotaur in sight though.
my apartment had sky tv, and i discovered the best channel in the world: roulette TV! very, very frightening. there was also a VHS copy of Drop Dead Fred which insisted we watch; it was my favourite film as a wee nipper.
i also discovered that sunlight makes me braindead; i couldn't finish a single crossword from my book during the day, but when i returned to them in the evening, they were simple. also, reading; i had to go back and re-read every page of my books if i was sitting in the sun, and still didn't have a clue what was going on. i'm like a mogwai or summat. er, except i went swimming and didn't spawn 200 other g-kits.

and and and and when i got home, my jag was all fixied up with new pickups! and they be great! and and and and and i ordered the mustang bridge. Yeee!

oh, but... i gots of duty free booze for my band/friends/family, but forgot to get any for myself. DUH!

g-kit (g-kit), Tuesday, 4 October 2005 08:58 (twenty years ago)

that 'Curves photo on the WDYLL thread is odd - you are in exactly reverse order to my mental image (which was formed at the B&G show).

i have ALL of this year's holiday entitlement left to take. oh um (have had about 6 days off this year, mostly in january, but that came out of last year's). that said, i have thursday and friday off (but don't have much planned)

can't remember the last time i went swimming. i do have a picture of me sat next to David Wilkie in around 1980 though. and a Lifesaving Award (Bronze).

reading in the sun is problematic because of the glare. reading is for bedrooms and trains.

koogs (koogs), Tuesday, 4 October 2005 09:43 (twenty years ago)

Afternoon ladies & gents. Kate, that SC picture is "teh[sic] hottness"!!

My cat is poorly again. :-(

Panther Pink (Pinkpanther), Tuesday, 4 October 2005 10:10 (twenty years ago)

Awww.

I keep thinking it's Monday today. Hurrah for four-day weeks.

Forest Pines (ForestPines), Tuesday, 4 October 2005 10:22 (twenty years ago)

i heard that!

g-kit (g-kit), Tuesday, 4 October 2005 11:02 (twenty years ago)

Blimey, work busy today. Want lunch. Haven't even had coffee yet. :-(

Paranoid Spice (kate), Tuesday, 4 October 2005 11:07 (twenty years ago)

I also just had one of those moments when I was smashing my fists on the table and howling "WHY??? WON'T??? YOU?!?!? JUST?!?!? BLOODY?!?!?!? WORK?!?!??!?!?" at the computer and heard a burst of laughter, turned around and my entire department and a couple of random auditors were staring at me and laughing and taking the piss out of me.

Paranoid Spice (kate), Tuesday, 4 October 2005 11:08 (twenty years ago)

I got so angry at the game, I just had to...

g-kit (g-kit), Tuesday, 4 October 2005 11:15 (twenty years ago)

This is perhaps one of the reasons that I don't play games.

(Oh, yeah, that and, I just don't Get them.)

Paranoid Spice (kate), Tuesday, 4 October 2005 11:17 (twenty years ago)

Except sheep dog trials?

(One of the four sports, let us not forget)

aldo_cowpat (aldo_cowpat), Tuesday, 4 October 2005 11:28 (twenty years ago)

Not. A. Sport.

It's an actual useful skill, if you're a shepherd. The whole point of sport is that it's useless.

I'm feeling perplexed again. Most of the things that are considered "funny" on ILX, just raise a vague "huh?" in me. So I posted a joke that had my drunk friends ROTFL at the weekend, and all they do is pick and get pedantic about it.

I give up on this humour thing. I've not got a sense of humour, it's time to accept/remember that.

Paranoid Spice (kate), Tuesday, 4 October 2005 12:08 (twenty years ago)

that's why i like canned laughter, so i know when to laugh.
the excelsior thread is the canned laughter of ILX.

g-kit (g-kit), Tuesday, 4 October 2005 12:16 (twenty years ago)

Are you talking about the iPod joke? I thought that was hilarious!

marianna lcl (marianna lcl), Tuesday, 4 October 2005 12:22 (twenty years ago)

i missed it. where dat?

g-kit (g-kit), Tuesday, 4 October 2005 12:26 (twenty years ago)

tube stations

I don't understand humour. I'm not complaining, just observing.

Paranoid Spice (kate), Tuesday, 4 October 2005 12:28 (twenty years ago)

it's no big deal. your joke prompted an offshoot discussion on whether ipods were still hip - par for the course with topical jokes on ILE. everyone laughs at different things, humour is relative etc.

Sociah T Azzahole (blueski), Tuesday, 4 October 2005 12:36 (twenty years ago)

It's OK, I don't find you funny, either. I was just really perplexed as to what constitutes humour, but that's another thread.

I think I want another cup of coffee. g-kit, have you had your cookie yet?

Paranoid Spice (kate), Tuesday, 4 October 2005 12:38 (twenty years ago)

anything constitues humour, evidently.

Sociah T Azzahole (blueski), Tuesday, 4 October 2005 12:40 (twenty years ago)

i want BACON

Ste (Fuzzy), Tuesday, 4 October 2005 12:43 (twenty years ago)

That's a weird jump-cut... I didn't have my first coffee until very late, so now I'm wondering about the second coffee, if I should put it off.

And wondering how valuations work. Sigh.

Paranoid Spice (kate), Tuesday, 4 October 2005 12:50 (twenty years ago)

i didn't get a cookie today! she'd sold out. bah! i'd been waiting a week!

g-kit (g-kit), Tuesday, 4 October 2005 12:55 (twenty years ago)

i want my holiday photies back so i can post to the october whattehfuckyoulookinlike and you can all be like "omg as if you even been on holiday you pasty looking fuck!"

g-kit (g-kit), Tuesday, 4 October 2005 13:04 (twenty years ago)

Oh no! Did you tell her? Hopefully she hasn't stopped ordering enough since you've been away.

I've started to notice that I always have a post-lunch slump when I start to feel a bit cranky and slightly depressed. I wonder if this is a blood sugar issue.

(Sorry, I'm keeping tabs on my mood quite carefully at the moment for my new shrink, so excuse any increase in navalgazing.)

x-post, photos! Oh yes, I await with baited breath!

(Also photos of your new, improved, fixed up Jaguar!)

Paranoid Spice (kate), Tuesday, 4 October 2005 13:06 (twenty years ago)

I made do with bacon flavoured crisps. and after 10 minutes of tearing the packet to pieces to find my secret code number i found it and entered it onto the Walkers website to enter myself in a draw to win an ipod

(so i can be hip )
::ducks::

Ste (Fuzzy), Tuesday, 4 October 2005 13:09 (twenty years ago)

That was a joke, I think, no?

Paranoid Spice (kate), Tuesday, 4 October 2005 13:12 (twenty years ago)

aw, the jag looks the same, unfortunately. same pickup covers, so you can hardly tell the difference. it sounds so good now, though! the pickups are sooo nice. extra-extra big output, so no more over-cranked amplifier, and they sound really similar to regular jag pickups, but with more punch and a little more emphasis on mid-tones. and they can actually handle distortion without going all strange. dunno what to do with the old jag pickups though - maybe put one in my tele... that might sound yummy.
but as soon as i get the bridge (hopefully tomorrow) i'll bring it in to work to fit it (lots of tools n stuff here) and snap some pics, for sure. hella excited about practice now. yeee!

g-kit (g-kit), Tuesday, 4 October 2005 13:15 (twenty years ago)

Which reminds me, did you know this happened:

http://ilx.wh3rd.net/newanswers.php?board=12

while you were away?

"I Make Music" for all your technical musicgeek needs! take a picture of your guitar and post it on the "what does your guitar look like" thread!

Paranoid Spice (kate), Tuesday, 4 October 2005 13:17 (twenty years ago)

That was a joke, I think, no?
well it was kinda jokey, but in a friendly way.

anyway i won't find out for another 7 hours if i've won.

Ste (Fuzzy), Tuesday, 4 October 2005 13:41 (twenty years ago)

humour is relative etc.

My aunt's bloody hilarious

Forest Pines (ForestPines), Tuesday, 4 October 2005 13:42 (twenty years ago)

ooh, techno-muso-geekery!
i'm running out of things to do to my jag now, arrr. i want more mods! more! i want a frankenstein's jaguar!

g-kit (g-kit), Tuesday, 4 October 2005 13:43 (twenty years ago)

Yay! I'm proud of myself! I correctly identified a funny!

Paranoid Spice (kate), Tuesday, 4 October 2005 13:44 (twenty years ago)

OK, new question - how does MySpace work? how do I get to see who have decided that they are my band's friends without actually signing up for it?

Paranoid Spice (kate), Tuesday, 4 October 2005 14:55 (twenty years ago)

Well, it looks like today is going to be a terrible day. I've already had shit, shit news first thing in the morning (which I can't discuss yet until I've contacted all the people involved) - my freaking housemates were in the kitchen/shower when I needed them so I was late, again, and not my fault for once, and people are pestering me for crap before I've even been here 20 minutes.

And I've got PMS. So I apologise in advance for how cranky I'm going to be, but today is going to be rubbish.

Paranoid Spice (kate), Wednesday, 5 October 2005 07:26 (twenty years ago)

The first person I spoke to at the office this morning complained that I was being "arsey". Well, don't talk to me, then.

Forest Pines (ForestPines), Wednesday, 5 October 2005 07:30 (twenty years ago)

At least my big boss just fired off an official email to the number one pesterer of the past week - saying LAY OFF SHE'S DOING IMPORTANT STUFF FOR US, WAIT YOUR TURN!!! That was nice.

Paranoid Spice (kate), Wednesday, 5 October 2005 07:38 (twenty years ago)

was going through old tapes at the weekend. found this. acoustic radcliffe session version. great tom toms.
http://home.clara.net/koogy/music/Boo_Radleys_Find_The_Answer_Within.mp3

koogs (koogs), Wednesday, 5 October 2005 07:42 (twenty years ago)

Morning! My cat had to stay at the vets last night for IV fluids & observation. he's got to have an x-ray today before we know whether he'll need an operation. :-(

Panther Pink (Pinkpanther), Wednesday, 5 October 2005 08:02 (twenty years ago)

Oh no, your poor kitty! Please let us know how he is doing!

Paranoid Spice (kate), Wednesday, 5 October 2005 08:04 (twenty years ago)

Awww :-( I hope he comes out OK.

Forest Pines (ForestPines), Wednesday, 5 October 2005 08:04 (twenty years ago)

Someone at work called me soppy the other day because I slept downstairs with him on Monday night because he was poorly. Maybe not everyone cares about their pets as much as me, but I hate seeing him poorly & will do anything to make him better.

Panther Pink (Pinkpanther), Wednesday, 5 October 2005 08:07 (twenty years ago)

I am guessing I am not the only person who will misread that sentence today.

tissp! (the impossible shortest specia), Wednesday, 5 October 2005 08:10 (twenty years ago)

Aw, it just means you'll make a good mum, Pink. :-)

Paranoid Spice (kate), Wednesday, 5 October 2005 08:10 (twenty years ago)

I have to say I had to re-read it twice.

I've had a horrible night cos my current crush is climbing to it's apex - you know, the bit where you like someone for 30 seconds, then hate them for thirty seconds, then wash rinse repeat for, ooooh, 2 days. I'm twenty-fucking-six, aren't I supposed to have stopped having these debilitating crushes by now? Grrrr.

Come Back Johnny B (Johnney B), Wednesday, 5 October 2005 08:19 (twenty years ago)

Which is this sentence which is so perplexing? I'm confused; it must be a boy thing.

Oh, Johnney, I'm slightly jealous. I wish I had a crush. But then again, I read your post and am slightly glad I don't.

Paranoid Spice (kate), Wednesday, 5 October 2005 08:21 (twenty years ago)

You had to read my post twice?

Panther Pink (Pinkpanther), Wednesday, 5 October 2005 08:21 (twenty years ago)

Someone at work called me soppy the other day because I slept downstairs with him on Monday night because he was poorly.

implies that you slept with the guy that called you soppy. All clearer now?

(It's our fault not yours, it is early in the morning, after all)

Kate, you so don't want crushes. At least, not these horrible uncontrollable ones. Nice ones you can switch on and off are good, and the ones that are reciprocated are great, but these ones - not good at all.

Come Back Johnny B (Johnney B), Wednesday, 5 October 2005 08:26 (twenty years ago)

Perhaps it read differently in my head at the person who called me soppy is a 45 year old woman.

Panther Pink (Pinkpanther), Wednesday, 5 October 2005 08:28 (twenty years ago)

Crushes are evil. I'm glad I don't have any real ones right now.

Forest Pines (ForestPines), Wednesday, 5 October 2005 08:29 (twenty years ago)

Ah, now I see it - but I knew that the "him" referred to the cat, and did not know the gender of the colleague.

I suppose I still have my crush on my Captain. But that's about it. I would hate to have a horrible *actual* crush again.

Can you do something about your crush, JB, or is it one of those awful unrequited ones?

Paranoid Spice (kate), Wednesday, 5 October 2005 08:31 (twenty years ago)

gnnngh. you want cranky? NO COOKIE TODAY. AGAIN.

g-kit (g-kit), Wednesday, 5 October 2005 08:35 (twenty years ago)

They have forgotten about you! you go away, everything changes. Like my housemates and the kitchen/bathroom schedule.

Paranoid Spice (kate), Wednesday, 5 October 2005 08:36 (twenty years ago)

waaaah.

but my bridge is here! yay!
i forgot to bring jaggy with me, though. boo.

g-kit (g-kit), Wednesday, 5 October 2005 08:38 (twenty years ago)

Yeh, awful unrequited ones. She's got a bloke, they've been together for 2 years, all fine and dandy. I hope they'll be very happy together ::gnash gnash::

Bah, I'll be over it in a week or two. It's just annoying in the meantime.

Come Back Johnny B (Johnney B), Wednesday, 5 October 2005 08:45 (twenty years ago)

You kind of prefer the unrequited ones to the requited ones, don't you? ;-)

Paranoid Spice (kate), Wednesday, 5 October 2005 08:46 (twenty years ago)

Yes, I love unrequited crushes, they're brilliant.

Come Back Johnny B (Johnney B), Wednesday, 5 October 2005 08:51 (twenty years ago)

So anyway, I'm unusally cracnky today because of my horrible night. I've tried to combat this with tea and a Yorkie, and it's so not working. I'm gonna go shopping at lunch, maybe that'll make me feel better.

(god I'm such a girl)
(despite the yorkie bar)

Come Back Johnny B (Johnney B), Wednesday, 5 October 2005 09:26 (twenty years ago)

So should I eat a Yorkie bar and feel more like a bloke?

I'm really not looking forward to lunch. (I'm so bored of veggies and hummus but can't think of anything else to eat.)

Or supper for that matter. Well, I'm looking forward to eating poutine but not looking forward to the discussion that will have to take place while eating it.

Paranoid Spice (kate), Wednesday, 5 October 2005 09:28 (twenty years ago)

Mealtime discussions are cool tho! Unless it's a "discussion".

Come Back Johnny B (Johnney B), Wednesday, 5 October 2005 09:47 (twenty years ago)

No, it's very much a "discussion". I was really looking forward to it, clearing out the air and everything, until the bad news this morning. Now I'm just dreading it.

Paranoid Spice (kate), Wednesday, 5 October 2005 09:49 (twenty years ago)

Lunchtime now. Yay.

Paranoid Spice (kate), Wednesday, 5 October 2005 10:14 (twenty years ago)

I've just eaten some Tesco sushi. I'm sure real sushi is nicer than that, although the tesco sushi is hardly horrible.

Come Back Johnny B (Johnney B), Wednesday, 5 October 2005 10:50 (twenty years ago)

The local tesco has stopped selling sushi. WTF?

tissp! (the impossible shortest specia), Wednesday, 5 October 2005 10:51 (twenty years ago)

I don't think I've ever had Tesco sushi. My hummus looked revolting (it was basil and sundried tomato flavour) but tasted great once you got past the vomityness of it.

Except the big boss came over and started asking me questions in the middle of it. Like, don't let my crunching babycorn put you off your accounting!

Paranoid Spice (kate), Wednesday, 5 October 2005 11:02 (twenty years ago)

My kitty is having surgery. :-((((

Panther Pink (Pinkpanther), Wednesday, 5 October 2005 11:13 (twenty years ago)

:-(

*hug*

Forest Pines (ForestPines), Wednesday, 5 October 2005 11:14 (twenty years ago)

Oh no! Fingers crossed that he's alright!

Paranoid Spice (kate), Wednesday, 5 October 2005 11:14 (twenty years ago)

Having surgery? Eeek! Sending luv 2 ur cat!

Come Back Johnny B (Johnney B), Wednesday, 5 October 2005 12:00 (twenty years ago)

Aww thanks. I am so worried about it, I really can't concentrate on work at all.

Panther Pink (Pinkpanther), Wednesday, 5 October 2005 12:11 (twenty years ago)

oh my, love to your kit-e-kat, pinx0r.

i got cookie today! yee!

g-kit (g-kit), Thursday, 6 October 2005 07:58 (twenty years ago)

Morning Mr Kit! What type of cookie is it huh? How are you today?
My cat has to stay at the vets again tonight. Hopefully I'll be able to bring him home tomorrow. *fingers crossed*

Panther Pink (Pinkpanther), Thursday, 6 October 2005 08:07 (twenty years ago)

double choc chip cookie, innit!
i'm happy cos i got my cookie, i fixed up my guitar real nice and i have band practice tonight. yee!

i'm sure they're treating kitty real well.

g-kit (g-kit), Thursday, 6 October 2005 08:15 (twenty years ago)

Sounds like a nice day!
Oh yes they are really nice there. I have to take the other one there today aswell, just for a checkup, I want to see my other cat, but not sure if that would be a good idea for him [my cat] or me! :-S

Panther Pink (Pinkpanther), Thursday, 6 October 2005 08:19 (twenty years ago)

I suppose I still have my crush on my Captain

Hence the naval gazing mentioned? ;)

The Vintner's Lipogram (OleM), Thursday, 6 October 2005 08:31 (twenty years ago)

I am worried I might be starting to crush on the new temp. I'm only just starting to get last weekend's microcrush out of my head, so it's less than ideal

(last weekend's microcrush = cute, reminded me of a few past crushes - but wrong orientation to be interested in me. Bah)

Forest Pines (ForestPines), Thursday, 6 October 2005 08:54 (twenty years ago)

Sigh. Late to work this morning because I had my counselling... and then I interrupted a pickpocket on the bus. Fuck.

Going to eat my lunch and try to calm down and more on this later.

Paranoid Spice (kate), Thursday, 6 October 2005 10:19 (twenty years ago)

Yikes.

Matt (Matt), Thursday, 6 October 2005 10:22 (twenty years ago)

aye, yikes! hope you're ok.
you should probably have a cookie, they settle the nerves.

g-kit (g-kit), Thursday, 6 October 2005 10:24 (twenty years ago)

Yeah, I'm fine. Just shaken. It didn't dawn on me until I'd already got off the bus and was walking up Streatham Hill that he might have had a knife or something.

When he sat down, he kind of slammed into me excessively hard, so I moved away. I noticed that he kept jostling me or leaning against me, elbowing me in the ribs, and I was trying to figure out if he was a pervert or just someone who had no concept of personal space when the bloke opposite me said "watch out - he's got his hand in your pocket."

Pickpocket freaked out and threw a cake wrapper (yeah - go figure, he was eating a cake out of a packet when he got on) at the bloke so I just lost my temper and started SCREAMING at him "TOUCH ME AGAIN AND I'LL CUT YOUR FUCKING BALLS OFF!!!" and making a huge racket and fuss.

I think he thought I was an easy mark cause I just looked like a nice middle aged woman but he really picked on the wrong person. Especially since I'd just come back from anger management and had a lot of anger floating around.

Of course he started in with the "oh, you're a racist" - dude what a lazy excuse, I hadn't even noticed what colour he was until I saw his HAND IN MY POCKET and that just made me even angrier. I started shouting that I was going to call the police and told him to get at the bus - when I realised that the bus driver wasn't going to do anything (they never do, do they?) I got off the bus and walked to the next stop. Still furious.

This was an hour ago and I've still not calmed down. I'm eating a load of lettuce now becuase it's supposed to calm you down - cookies will follow shortly.

Phew. Deep breath. I was crying and shaking when I got on the next bus. There were two people on it who had been on the previous bus and seen what had gone on, and not one of them even met my eye. Fuckers.

Paranoid Spice (kate), Thursday, 6 October 2005 10:32 (twenty years ago)

OMG, hope you're OK Kate!

Panther Pink (Pinkpanther), Thursday, 6 October 2005 10:35 (twenty years ago)

Eek, blimey. Hope you feel better soon!

tissp! (the impossible shortest specia), Thursday, 6 October 2005 10:38 (twenty years ago)

Holy shit. I'm glad you're okay.
Also, what a shit pickpocket.

Matt (Matt), Thursday, 6 October 2005 10:42 (twenty years ago)

He smelled really bad. That was the only thing I really noticed about him when he got on the bus. And the eating a cake out of a packet. Weird.

Paranoid Spice (kate), Thursday, 6 October 2005 10:44 (twenty years ago)

I'm a big fan of that detail.

Matt (Matt), Thursday, 6 October 2005 10:45 (twenty years ago)

Report the assault, report the driver to the bus company.

suzy (suzy), Thursday, 6 October 2005 10:55 (twenty years ago)

obviously he was addicted to CAKE and needed cash to buy more.
life imitating art etc.

g-kit (g-kit), Thursday, 6 October 2005 10:58 (twenty years ago)

Well, it's too late and I've no idea who the bus driver even was or how to track him down. I just want to forget about it and calm down.

It was a cake with raisins in. I knew that raisins were bad - and now I've proof.

Paranoid Spice (kate), Thursday, 6 October 2005 11:02 (twenty years ago)

i expect to see you scowling at a box on Sunmaid on the cover of New Scientist sometime soon, then.

g-kit (g-kit), Thursday, 6 October 2005 11:03 (twenty years ago)

It's weird the things that stick in your mind after an event like that. I probably couldn't pick him out of a line-up (yes, he was wearing a hoodie, actually) but that cake absolutely burned its image into my head.

Paranoid Spice (kate), Thursday, 6 October 2005 11:06 (twenty years ago)

R@nk@ (no-nonsense courier friend) is here and says she will teach you the best way to manage your anger next time, ie. how to snap the wrist of a pickpocket. She says: "He will be screaming and you will save your breath."

suzy (suzy), Thursday, 6 October 2005 11:07 (twenty years ago)

Kate, you should report it.

Panther Pink (Pinkpanther), Thursday, 6 October 2005 11:11 (twenty years ago)

I've got enough stress in my life without a police case.

Paranoid Spice (kate), Thursday, 6 October 2005 11:13 (twenty years ago)

Fair enough I guess...

Panther Pink (Pinkpanther), Thursday, 6 October 2005 11:17 (twenty years ago)

Yeh, I say chill out and put it down to experience eg. there are bad people in the world.

Or hunt him down and set him on fire, whatever.

Come Back Johnny B (Johnney B), Thursday, 6 October 2005 11:32 (twenty years ago)

Fucking hell kate, that's badness. hope your okay.

Ste (Fuzzy), Thursday, 6 October 2005 12:27 (twenty years ago)

Whoa kate hope you're less shaken by now...
C or D: working so much the day goes quickly but you don't have time to post on ilx

beanz (beanz), Thursday, 6 October 2005 15:30 (twenty years ago)

Blargh, oh god, I got waylayed by the owner of the company this morning, at 8.20 when I had literally just sat down and not even got my computer fully on - and he stood there smoking cigars (I'm pretty allergic to tobacco smoke at the best of times) and I'm streaming with allergies, my eyes watering, coughing up a storm.

And he's hassling me about something that I already TOLD HIM THE ANSWER TO YESTERDAY - or at least told the lackey he left to instruct me to tell him the answer to yesterday.

Ugh. I feel like I'm going to vomit and wondering if I should go and get some allergy pills from Boots or just grin and bear it.

Paranoid Spice (kate), Friday, 7 October 2005 06:48 (twenty years ago)

Set him on fire.

Come Back Johnny B (Johnney B), Friday, 7 October 2005 07:00 (twenty years ago)

Get some allergy pills Kate, you'll feel better once you have plus you'll be able to resists the urge to punch your boss in the nose!

X-post

Although Johny does have a point!

Panther Pink (Pinkpanther), Friday, 7 October 2005 07:01 (twenty years ago)

I should just get some allergy pills - see also the fish situation at the past weekend. In a minute, after I've run the morning reports.

Paranoid Spice (kate), Friday, 7 October 2005 07:04 (twenty years ago)

The irony being that if I've been drinking, I actually really like the smell and taste of cigars. But in an enclosed space like an office, it's excruciating.

Paranoid Spice (kate), Friday, 7 October 2005 07:06 (twenty years ago)

I don't think I could be doing with cigar smoke in an office. It would do my head in (did I alreayd say this upthread?)

I baked some Blackberry and Walnut Muffins last night, and I've bought them all in today. They're being scoffed by my team in double quick time, tho I think they need a bit more sugar, and need to be mixed less so the air stays in.

Come Back Johnny B (Johnney B), Friday, 7 October 2005 07:42 (twenty years ago)

Well, better than potsmoke like Koogsy has to deal with.

I'm wondering if I should blow out Rick/Tim's birthday and Sugar to go see The Telescopes/Sonic Boom tonight. I only found out this was happening on Wednesday at the Secret Shoegazing Club in Clerkenwell.

Paranoid Spice (kate), Friday, 7 October 2005 07:47 (twenty years ago)

Morning
Any smoke is a bit much in an office - and I'm a smoker as well. Muffins are much more like it, but we don't really have that kind of community spirit where I work.

beanz (beanz), Friday, 7 October 2005 07:49 (twenty years ago)

Gah, the Office Gossip is trying to persuade me to ask the cute-but-shy new temp out for a drink. I'm not saying I don't want to, but I don't want the Gossip to be sticking her nose in.

Forest Pines (ForestPines), Friday, 7 October 2005 07:55 (twenty years ago)

Yeah, I'd avoid anything that the OG suggested in the future.

Paranoid Spice (kate), Friday, 7 October 2005 07:58 (twenty years ago)

If your office gossip didn't exist and you asked out the temp, other people would still chat about it. So you might as well ask out the temp anyway.
xpost - where's the fun in that?

beanz (beanz), Friday, 7 October 2005 08:01 (twenty years ago)

Well, I just think office romance is a Bad Idea in general (and I'm not just saying that coz Boris Johnson from upstairs wasn't at the general meeting last night) - to the point where I've actually written songs about what a Bad Idea it is.

So take my advice with a grain of salt.

Paranoid Spice (kate), Friday, 7 October 2005 08:03 (twenty years ago)

fp, ask the cute temp out, or do you want me to do it for you?!
I got to see my cat yesterday & he seems so might brighter & for once he seemed pleased to see me. Awwwww. So I got a call from the vets last night which scared me, because I'd already spoken to him. It appears they're going to detonate a bomb in the area today (you may have heard about it on the news: they've found 4 unexploded bombs in the same area over the past week or so) & my kitty is currently residing in the evacuation zone!!!! The vet is going to stay with him & it should all be ok, but I never thought I'd have to make that decision. I wanted to bring my cat home, but I couldn't get the time off work to look after him today! :-(

X-post

I agree Kate (an old office fling of mine emailed me the other day & I was like dude, that was 4 years ago, get over it!!) but if this person is a temp, surely it's different??!!

Panther Pink (Pinkpanther), Friday, 7 October 2005 08:04 (twenty years ago)

Look, everything you've ever posted suggests the OG is some kind of weird emotional vampire and is just one of those vicarious life partners. I realise it would be impolitic to tell her to mind her own business.

suzy (suzy), Friday, 7 October 2005 08:06 (twenty years ago)

All this may be true, but if it's a temp, like Pink says...
Bombs?!? wtf? WW2 bombs? (I haven't read or seen news for a few days)

beanz (beanz), Friday, 7 October 2005 08:15 (twenty years ago)

Yup, scary!!
http://www.cambridge-news.co.uk/news/city/2005/10/04/6ff14eb8-6b83-4a06-a49d-769603194a9c.lpf

Panther Pink (Pinkpanther), Friday, 7 October 2005 08:18 (twenty years ago)

Bombs? Yes, WTF is going on, Pink, are you safe?

x-post!

Paranoid Spice (kate), Friday, 7 October 2005 08:18 (twenty years ago)

Phew, as scary as bombs are, I'm glad it's WW2 bombs and not terrorists or something, which was my immediate first thought.

Paranoid Spice (kate), Friday, 7 October 2005 08:19 (twenty years ago)

Yeah sorry, I should have been more specific there.

Panther Pink (Pinkpanther), Friday, 7 October 2005 08:28 (twenty years ago)

I'm glad your cat sounds healthier, Pink.

Suzy is OTM about the OG. Beanz might be OTM about what I'm actually going to *do*, though ;-)

I know the cute temp doesn't like the OG too much, so I can manage to ask the temp out without the OG actually finding out about it.

Forest Pines (ForestPines), Friday, 7 October 2005 08:30 (twenty years ago)

Oh, that's definitely something that could be manipulated.

Matt (Matt), Friday, 7 October 2005 08:39 (twenty years ago)

so... we practiced last night.
god damn! i love my guitar so, so much.

g-kit (g-kit), Friday, 7 October 2005 08:42 (twenty years ago)

Go for it FP!! *does a little encouraging cheer leader dance*

Panther Pink (Pinkpanther), Friday, 7 October 2005 08:42 (twenty years ago)

UXBs are scary but cool somehow. Not sure why. Something to do with passport to pimlico in my head maybe?

beanz (beanz), Friday, 7 October 2005 09:09 (twenty years ago)

I haven't done it yet, because I keep getting "you're doomed" thoughts.

Forest Pines (ForestPines), Friday, 7 October 2005 09:16 (twenty years ago)

It took a moment for me to realise that UXB is unexploded bomb, not some programming language I was having a panic at not knowing.

I'm putting this here cause my cranky thread has been hijacked:

I am cranky. I am also hungry, which doesn't help. At breakfast, I felt vaguely ill and could not finish my muselix. And now I'm so ravenous I could eat the packet it came in. Sigh. It might be PMS.

Paranoid Spice (kate), Friday, 7 October 2005 09:18 (twenty years ago)

You can still be cranky on the cranky thread, surely?

Go on FP, do it.

Matt (Matt), Friday, 7 October 2005 09:24 (twenty years ago)

I don't even know what that thread is about any more, so I'm sticking here with my crankiness. Grrrrrr!

Paranoid Spice (kate), Friday, 7 October 2005 09:25 (twenty years ago)

so what's this thread about?

g-kit (g-kit), Friday, 7 October 2005 09:29 (twenty years ago)

Watercoolers, I think.

Matt (Matt), Friday, 7 October 2005 09:36 (twenty years ago)

the coffee machine at our studio has ICE COLD water for 5p a cup. it's pretty great. that's my entire life's experience of watercoolers.
except for the salesmen that phone me at work once a week and ask me AGAIN if i want a free trial of their watercooler.

g-kit (g-kit), Friday, 7 October 2005 09:42 (twenty years ago)

Ha, I used to get them. Then I'd point out to them that I was working in a restaurant so what the fuck would I want with a watercooler? They seemed baffled, largely.

Matt (Matt), Friday, 7 October 2005 09:43 (twenty years ago)

Our watercooler is free. So htere.

Go on FP, do it.

I have to get the chance, without it looking like I've been looking for her purely to ask her out.

Forest Pines (ForestPines), Friday, 7 October 2005 09:43 (twenty years ago)

So is ours, along with the hot drinks machine & tea & coffee made from the kettle!!

Why not?!!

Panther Pink (Pinkpanther), Friday, 7 October 2005 09:47 (twenty years ago)

Well, I just think office romance is a Bad Idea in general - to the point where I've actually written songs about what a Bad Idea it is.

In fact, I've got one of them stuck in my head at the moment. Hurrah!

Forest Pines (ForestPines), Friday, 7 October 2005 09:54 (twenty years ago)

Get "Eye of the tiger" stuck in your head instead. Then you'll start feeling all predatory and in the right frame of mind for moving in on said cute temp.

Matt (Matt), Friday, 7 October 2005 09:57 (twenty years ago)

But whatever you do, don't do my "Eye Of The Tiger" boxing-as-dance routine.

Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Friday, 7 October 2005 10:01 (twenty years ago)

I appear to have 'In The Flesh' stuck in my head. I think it was something to do with the Warriors thread and remembering the skinhead gang

Ste (Fuzzy), Friday, 7 October 2005 10:01 (twenty years ago)

Marcello, if only I knew what that looked like...

Forest Pines (ForestPines), Friday, 7 October 2005 10:02 (twenty years ago)

Surely looking for her purely to ask her out would be seen as a good thing? Would you want to date someone who asked you out as they just happened to be passing?

Onimo (GerryNemo), Friday, 7 October 2005 10:03 (twenty years ago)

Onimo is so OTM!!!

Panther Pink (Pinkpanther), Friday, 7 October 2005 10:04 (twenty years ago)

Great, now I've got Eye of the Tiger in my head.

Come Back Johnny B (Johnney B), Friday, 7 October 2005 10:05 (twenty years ago)

And Marcello's dancing?

Right now: I am sat at one of the desks in my office. She is sat at the other. Noone else is about, and we're both eating our sandwiches in silence.

Forest Pines (ForestPines), Friday, 7 October 2005 10:06 (twenty years ago)

Go man go!!!

I know this is not strictly the right thread, but I need some help.
What top would go with this skirt?
http://www.riverisland.co.uk/products/bx/bx751/x_x_bx751_x_large.jpg

Panther Pink (Pinkpanther), Friday, 7 October 2005 10:08 (twenty years ago)

It took a moment for me to realise that UXB is unexploded bomb

Sorry, wartime slang seeped in somehow. Never had a reason to say UXB before and don't guess I ever will again.

FP: Ask her for lunch today. Then it'll be purely welcoming and business-like. (e.g. email saying "New people always get taken for lunch. Has anyone asked you out to lunch today?") And then ask her out for drinks later.

beanz (beanz), Friday, 7 October 2005 10:14 (twenty years ago)

see-through?
er, xpost

g-kit (g-kit), Friday, 7 October 2005 10:15 (twenty years ago)

xpost doh sandwiches???

beanz (beanz), Friday, 7 October 2005 10:15 (twenty years ago)

Hey as long as Kate writes songs about it, it is a good thing. More Shimura Curves songs please.

x-post x 29

Pete (Pete), Friday, 7 October 2005 10:17 (twenty years ago)

haha thanks G-Kit, I don't think the world is ready for me in a see through top! ;-)
I think I know whose help I need. SSSUUUUUUZZZZZZYYYYYYYY!!!!!

Panther Pink (Pinkpanther), Friday, 7 October 2005 10:18 (twenty years ago)

Oh no, I just nearly had a hallumi catastrophe...

That is a lovely skirt, Pink! I'd probably wear it with a plain black scoop necked t-shirt, slightly clingy for good cleavage but not obscene. Or perhaps a dark slate blue that matched/picked up the grey of the skirt?

Paranoid Spice (kate), Friday, 7 October 2005 10:20 (twenty years ago)

Believe it or not the skirt is described as chocolate! Do you not think chocolate knitwear is the way to go? Personally I'd just like a simple v-neck jumper.
I found this skirt too which i liked.
http://www.oasis-stores.com/clothesRail/images/9587.jpg

Panther Pink (Pinkpanther), Friday, 7 October 2005 10:25 (twenty years ago)

FP, have u asked her for drinks yet?

Come Back Johnny B (Johnney B), Friday, 7 October 2005 10:25 (twenty years ago)

Perhaps that's where he has disappeared to?!

Panther Pink (Pinkpanther), Friday, 7 October 2005 10:32 (twenty years ago)

Or maybe he's muttering to himself in the mirror in the gents, clenching and unclenching his sweaty-palmed fists, cursing not having asked her out yet. DO IT NOW!

beanz (beanz), Friday, 7 October 2005 10:35 (twenty years ago)

Chocolate?!??! I wouldn't eat chocolate *that* colour. That's slate grey.

The second tweedy skirt looks a bit more chocolate coloured. I'm wearing a brown tweed skirt today. But I'm wearing it with a pink paisley Liberty shirt and a purple v-necked jumper - but then again, I am slightly colourblind.

Paranoid Spice (kate), Friday, 7 October 2005 10:36 (twenty years ago)

I need help to get a wedding reception outfit! argh!!

Panther Pink (Pinkpanther), Friday, 7 October 2005 10:39 (twenty years ago)

Oh my lord. PEOPLE STOP GETTING MARRIED!!! I think the second one is a bit more formal - but I really like the first. Especially with that pirately looking belt.

Paranoid Spice (kate), Friday, 7 October 2005 10:40 (twenty years ago)

Yeah me too! I kinda really only want to get the skirt for the belt & it looks nice on! So boots or heels?!!

Panther Pink (Pinkpanther), Friday, 7 October 2005 10:46 (twenty years ago)

Pirate boots. Totally.

Paranoid Spice (kate), Friday, 7 October 2005 10:46 (twenty years ago)

Haha, i have brown slouch boots, would they do if i spoke like a pirate?

Panther Pink (Pinkpanther), Friday, 7 October 2005 10:50 (twenty years ago)

i'm pirating for halloween!
so excited!

g-kit (g-kit), Friday, 7 October 2005 10:53 (twenty years ago)

God, I still need to come up with a costume. The theme is "myths and legends". I'm baffled. (Though I'm not a scientist.)

Paranoid Spice (kate), Friday, 7 October 2005 10:54 (twenty years ago)

Actually, thinking about it, Pink, I think that brown and blue look very good together. (Bear in mind the colourblindness thing, but I think this is generally agreed upon?) So that piratey skirt, plus chocolate top and brown boots might look very nice. Depending on how the browns go together. (I also wore a chocolate suede jacket today, neglected to mention that.)

Paranoid Spice (kate), Friday, 7 October 2005 10:59 (twenty years ago)

i just applied for a job here: www.streetbike.net - how great a company does this look? - and i think i have discovered it doesn't exist any more, bah. anyone know a reputable bicycle courier company in london i can work for?

emsk ( emsk), Friday, 7 October 2005 11:51 (twenty years ago)

yet another thing you can use the Duke of York to find out!

Paranoid Spice (kate), Friday, 7 October 2005 11:53 (twenty years ago)

Well, she has my phone number now. I will tell more when she isn't actually in the room.

Forest Pines (ForestPines), Friday, 7 October 2005 11:58 (twenty years ago)

Hooray!

Matt (Matt), Friday, 7 October 2005 11:59 (twenty years ago)

She said: she hardly ever goes out because she doesn't like crowded pubs or clubs. She most often goes to a friend's house to play poker. *But* if I give her my phone number then next time she's going out she will invite me along too.

I'm not entirely sure what the situation I'm in is - or what she thinks it is either.

Forest Pines (ForestPines), Friday, 7 October 2005 12:25 (twenty years ago)

That sounds intriguing FP!

Thanks Kate.

Panther Pink (Pinkpanther), Friday, 7 October 2005 12:27 (twenty years ago)

She wants to introduce you to all her mates - she's a fast mover
xp

beanz (beanz), Friday, 7 October 2005 12:28 (twenty years ago)

I'm thinking I might go as Margaret Thatcher to the Halloween party. Is the Iron Lady a legend yet? or do you have to be dead to be a myth?

Paranoid Spice (kate), Friday, 7 October 2005 12:29 (twenty years ago)

You could organise an asssssasssssination before you go to make sure kate?!

Panther Pink (Pinkpanther), Friday, 7 October 2005 12:30 (twenty years ago)

Don't tempt me. ;-)

Paranoid Spice (kate), Friday, 7 October 2005 12:31 (twenty years ago)

I think you should do it. And you might get lucky and she might die before the party. xpost haha

beanz (beanz), Friday, 7 October 2005 12:31 (twenty years ago)

ah the waiting game

Ste (Fuzzy), Friday, 7 October 2005 12:31 (twenty years ago)

I need help doing the hair, though. Or maybe I could just go to an old lady hair salon in Streatham - perhaps I'll ask at the Conservatives club at the end of my road, it's a popular hairdo with that crowd.

Paranoid Spice (kate), Friday, 7 October 2005 12:34 (twenty years ago)

What about a wig kate? Or perhaps just a load of rollers & hairspray.

Panther Pink (Pinkpanther), Friday, 7 October 2005 12:35 (twenty years ago)

yay well done forest!

I'm thinking I might go as Margaret Thatcher to the Halloween party. Is the Iron Lady a legend yet? or do you have to be dead to be a myth?

people claim it is a myth that she is a woman. i believe it is a myth that she is a human (insect overlords etc etc).

emsk ( emsk), Friday, 7 October 2005 12:35 (twenty years ago)

I have neither rollers nor hairspray. However, I bet Anna does! I'm really becoming taken with this idea! I mean, it will definitely be the scariest costume at the party! Possibly scarier than Rich's Dr. Shipman last year!

Paranoid Spice (kate), Friday, 7 October 2005 12:36 (twenty years ago)

I sometimes wish that I was a radio DJ just so that immediately after receiving the newsflash on the death of the Baroness of Kesteven I could play Hefner's The Day That Thatcher Dies, complete with its chorus nicked from The Wizard Of Oz.

Forest Pines (ForestPines), Friday, 7 October 2005 12:39 (twenty years ago)

Bloody hell, the former employee who's a convicted sex offender has just turned up in the office! I didn't think he was due for parole until Christmas!

Forest Pines (ForestPines), Friday, 7 October 2005 12:40 (twenty years ago)

It's all go at yours today,isn't it?

Matt (Matt), Friday, 7 October 2005 12:42 (twenty years ago)

Oh, definitely!

And the Office Gossip doesn't know a THING!

Best thing about the Sex Offender turning up: the only way to my office, without going outside, is via his boss's office. As he has turned up for a bit of a chat, his boss has shut the doors. So, noone can now come and bug me with annoying questions!

(other than via phone, obv)

Forest Pines (ForestPines), Friday, 7 October 2005 12:45 (twenty years ago)

Result!

Matt (Matt), Friday, 7 October 2005 12:51 (twenty years ago)

It turns out that the Sex Offender won an appeal and had his conviction overturned. So now, he's officially the Not A Sex Offender. This didn't make it into the local papers, but was (he said) mentioned in The Sun.

Forest Pines (ForestPines), Friday, 7 October 2005 13:11 (twenty years ago)

Haha!

Panther Pink (Pinkpanther), Friday, 7 October 2005 13:15 (twenty years ago)

My department are sneaking out early for drinks. I'm off on training on Monday and Tuesday. See you all next Wednesday!

Paranoid Spice (kate), Friday, 7 October 2005 14:59 (twenty years ago)

Have a good one darl! xxx

Panther Pink (Pinkpanther), Friday, 7 October 2005 14:59 (twenty years ago)

Well, she hasn't called me...

Forest Pines (ForestPines), Saturday, 8 October 2005 18:07 (twenty years ago)

For gods sake, it's only been a day!

I'm trying not to read between the lines of OKCupid responses. But it's hard not to. I don't quite know what to make of it, when you respond to someone's initial message and kind of ask some conversation making, getting to know you questions - and they respond in great detail and depth. But don't ask you anything in return. Not even "now what about you?" in response to the questions you asked.

I'd like to keep the conversation going, because he seems quite interesting. But it's a bit slippery when they don't even give you a toehold. Only so many times you can say "ooh, that's interesting, but I've not seen that film."

Paranoid Spice (kate), Sunday, 9 October 2005 11:00 (twenty years ago)

Mmm, I know the feeling there Kate.

I *know* it's only a day (well, two now), but it's still annoying. I daren't go out of earshot of the phone just in case she *does* call. And I suppose I'll probably see her at work tomorrow anyway.

Forest Pines (ForestPines), Sunday, 9 October 2005 13:29 (twenty years ago)

I went out into the warehouse this afternoon, where she was packing samples with someone else. "Oh, hello," I said, "I just thought I'd walk back to my office this way for a change."

"You've come to chat us up, you mean," she said, at which I kind of stammered, "um, no, no, um, not at all". We then had a long chat and discovered some more things we have in common.

Forest Pines (ForestPines), Monday, 10 October 2005 17:02 (twenty years ago)

This is a Good Sign, y'know.

Matt (Matt), Monday, 10 October 2005 17:05 (twenty years ago)

Well, at least she's aware of what you're doing. That's half the battle. I think.

Argh. I'm been out in Milton Keynes (actually Newport Pagnell, to be precise, I didn't know there was such a place outside of Smiths songs) on a training course. why does Milton Keynes exist?

I got in another shouting match on the bus this morning. With some "poet" who was blasting BAD JAZZ really loudly on the bus. As of tomorrow, I'm not riding that 59 any more.

Paranoid Spice (kate), Monday, 10 October 2005 17:06 (twenty years ago)

Which bit of it? Or the whole thing in general?

On the other hand, everyone *else* at the office has kind of noticed that I was talking to her for over an hour. Except the management, hopefully.

(xpost)

Kate: it could be worse. I have to spent most of tomorrow in Scunthorpe. Or Scunthorpe, as I like to spell it.

Forest Pines (ForestPines), Monday, 10 October 2005 17:07 (twenty years ago)

HURRAH! PLEASE tell me you left your bag there?!

emsk ( emsk), Monday, 10 October 2005 17:07 (twenty years ago)

(even just a crappy plastic one that you only got so you could leave it there)

also how do you know he was a poet? was that his excuse for the bad jazz?

emsk ( emsk), Monday, 10 October 2005 17:09 (twenty years ago)

I will leave a bag there tomorrow.

He insisted on TELLING me that he was a poet, and in fact, after spouting cod-psychology at me, told me was writing a POEM ABOUT ME!!! OH NO!!! And was insisting that the bad jazz he was blasting was somehow his "gift" to the other passengers. Dude, don't call your freaking insensitivity and rudeness a GIFT. Argh.

I can joke about it now, but I was irrationally upset about it this morning. To the point where I completely freaked out, and then cried uncontrollably for an hour. I'm still wound up, just thinking about it. I know this is fucked up and symptomatic of something else.

Paranoid Spice (kate), Monday, 10 October 2005 17:12 (twenty years ago)

Which bit of it? Or the whole thing in general?

The whole thing's encouraging, but specifically that fact that she knows you're interested ("Just come to chat me up?" = pretty confident) and has so far done nothing to discourage you.

And Brrr, Kate. That sounds like the fifth circle of hell.

Matt (Matt), Monday, 10 October 2005 17:15 (twenty years ago)

I can joke about it now, but I was irrationally upset about it this morning

not that irrational: GGGGRRRRAAARGH WHY PEOPLE HAVE TO BE SUCH SELFISH FUCKS?! IT'S SO EASY NOT TO GRRRAAAAAARGH BUT THEN YOU SAY SOMETHING AND YOU COME ACROSS AS THE UNREASONABLE ONE HOWTHEFUCKDIDTHATHAPPEN GRRRRAAAARGH FUCK YOU ALL! seems like a rational reaction. happens to me all the time anyway, TOTALLY fucks up your day/mood/stride. hope the other people on the bus weren't totally useless.

emsk ( emsk), Monday, 10 October 2005 17:16 (twenty years ago)

HOW HARD IS IT TO GET ONE PAIR OF FUCKING HEADPHONES?!?!? Instead of dragging me and half the bus into your fucking poetic drama. Dude, this is not your living room. What part of "please show consideration for the other passengers and do not disturb others with your music" do you not understand?!?!?

And yet I'm the bitch for complaining? (Actually, I didn't even complain, I was just muttering under my breath going "fucking shit music" when *he* started with me.)

Yeah, sure, I know I need anger management because it's ridiculous to hold onto something like this for so long.

Paranoid Spice (kate), Monday, 10 October 2005 17:21 (twenty years ago)

Well, later, when The Co-Worker came out to the warehouse and said "are you *still* here?", she replied: "he's stalking me." Which was a bit off-putting. I think she was joking, though.

(xxpost)

Forest Pines (ForestPines), Monday, 10 October 2005 17:21 (twenty years ago)

I would imagine so.

Matt (Matt), Monday, 10 October 2005 17:23 (twenty years ago)

The alternative's a bit too harsh to imagine, really.

Matt (Matt), Monday, 10 October 2005 17:23 (twenty years ago)

Oh DEAR. Kickboxing lessons, Kate?

suzy (suzy), Monday, 10 October 2005 17:24 (twenty years ago)

I don't know. Need to do something because one of these days I will get in a busfite and end up actually kicking someone and then it's my ass in jail. :-(

Paranoid Spice (kate), Monday, 10 October 2005 17:25 (twenty years ago)

Oh, incidentally, she thinks I look like "the sort of person who would have a website".

Forest Pines (ForestPines), Monday, 10 October 2005 17:26 (twenty years ago)

??? What does that even mean? I look like a shaven headed thug. I've got a website.

Matt (Matt), Monday, 10 October 2005 17:28 (twenty years ago)

Well, possibly not *look* like appearancewise. Maybe I'm just *like* the sort of person who would have a website.

Forest Pines (ForestPines), Monday, 10 October 2005 17:29 (twenty years ago)

That's still fairly vague, though not necessarily bad.

Matt (Matt), Monday, 10 October 2005 17:31 (twenty years ago)

And it *is* true, after all.

(I daren't tell her the URL just yet, though)

Forest Pines (ForestPines), Monday, 10 October 2005 17:34 (twenty years ago)

Hey, I'm a semi-regular visitor.

It ius certainly too soon to tell her the URL, that's like third date.

Matt (Matt), Monday, 10 October 2005 17:35 (twenty years ago)

You are? Ooh. :-)

Forest Pines (ForestPines), Monday, 10 October 2005 17:37 (twenty years ago)

Well a certain south coast librarian links to both of us, y'see.

Matt (Matt), Monday, 10 October 2005 17:39 (twenty years ago)

Ahhh, I wonder who that could be. I really should try reading you more often, in that case.

Forest Pines (ForestPines), Monday, 10 October 2005 17:43 (twenty years ago)

It'd make a nice change from some of the random googlers.

Matt (Matt), Monday, 10 October 2005 18:14 (twenty years ago)

Begin

Bah, I paid all this money for a Shoreditch web cafe for an hour, and ILX can't even be entertaining?

I've spent another day in Milton Keynes. Today I had to learn Pascal. Yeah, like my brain can really handle one more langage to get completely confused and fail to code in;

But hey, it's something else I can put on my resume, I guess;

I loved the way that most of the day, the other people from my office tried to keep up, but then halfway through the tutorial, when he broke out the code, they just gave up all pretense at understanding;

{ one of the people on my course is technically a compliance person but has some experience of at least, well... Access and a bit of visual basic.
}

I have a horrible feeling this is going to be like the summer that my brother tried to learn Italian and French and Spanish all at once, and failed to master any of them, but just of mangled them all together;

Right. Where shall I eat on Brick Lane now?

End

Paranoid Spice (kate), Tuesday, 11 October 2005 16:16 (twenty years ago)

that picture of you looking befuddled is funny (on FATS thread). you look like you don't know what's going on.

pascal is the first language they teach you in university computer studies courses (because it is better structured than BASIC but not as low level / tricky as C) (NB, aforementioned university computer studies class was 1986 and things are probably different now)

koogs (koogs), Tuesday, 11 October 2005 16:26 (twenty years ago)

I was super-tired and slightly drunk, of course I didn't know what was going on.

Obviously, then, I've never learned Pascal as I went to ART SCHOOL and not to a computer studies course at all. I've never had the slightest bit of formal training in computers; just picked it all up as I went along. I've a bit f*cking fraud and still know more than anyone else at my company... ha ha, probably because no one knows enough to tell me how wrong I am.

Paranoid Spice (kate), Tuesday, 11 October 2005 16:28 (twenty years ago)

Koogs, that was before Java was invented.

Forest Pines (ForestPines), Tuesday, 11 October 2005 17:24 (twenty years ago)

(my own main exposure to Pascal is solely from reading Why Pascal Is Not My Favourite Programming Language)

Forest Pines (ForestPines), Tuesday, 11 October 2005 17:26 (twenty years ago)

I'm terrified to hear that there are new Pascal programmers being made. They might as well teach you punchcards.

Andrew Farrell (afarrell), Tuesday, 11 October 2005 17:35 (twenty years ago)

Morning, UK Office People!

I'm back in the office this morning, noone has complained at or about me yet, and my boss isn't going to be here until late afternoon at the earliest. I'm starting to wonder how long it will be before things start to go horribly wrong.

(time for the first cup of tea, I think)

Forest Pines (ForestPines), Wednesday, 12 October 2005 06:12 (twenty years ago)

OK, I just reread my notes. It's not actually Pascal but Delphi. Whatever. Another language I need to learn. More crap that is going to end up on my desk. The shit thing about having two days in training is how much crap there is waiting when you get back.

Paranoid Spice (kate), Wednesday, 12 October 2005 06:49 (twenty years ago)

i want to know how i didn't see this thread for like four days.

g-kit (g-kit), Wednesday, 12 October 2005 06:57 (twenty years ago)

i am not in the office yet, i am at home, but WHY ARE THEY TALKING ABOUT FOOTBALL ON RADIO 4 aaargh it is SO FUCKING TEDIOUS! i emailed them to say just that but they didn't read my email out.

emsk ( emsk), Wednesday, 12 October 2005 07:02 (twenty years ago)

> It's not actually Pascal but Delphi.

i did realise after dissing pascal (or maybe that was a post that i didn't submit) that people do still use Delphi (which, i think, is the name of the suite, the actual code is pretty much pascal). regardless, the general high-level programming paradigms that you use whilst learning pascal (sequences, conditions, iterations) apply to pretty much all the other procedural languages. so it's a good place to start.

but, yes, why not java? (someone here, the pot smoking hippy, insists on writing his stuff using powerbuilder despite that fact that the other 95% of the code is java. wtf?).

anyway, thursday and friday off again this week. woot!

(they are talking about football on radio 4 because there's an international game against poland tonight)(i only know this because i heard the same bit on Today)

koogs (koogs), Wednesday, 12 October 2005 07:39 (twenty years ago)

Why oh why did I click on that thread? It's just made me even more depressed.

This morning I took the train to work and walked from Farringdon. I didn't get a proper breakfast again because of my stupid housemates. I did, however, get given a bright pink Stress Pig outside Chancery Lane tube station.

Also, my mum sent me a tweed jacket. It's enourmous, but it makes me want to go on country walks. I dreamed I ordered the perfect riding boots from the Barbour/hunting catalogue in Country Life. Is it wrong to lust after the models in the Barbour catalogue? Am I turning into Madonna? Help.

Paranoid Spice (kate), Wednesday, 12 October 2005 07:44 (twenty years ago)

is that a pigsback.com pig?

koogs (koogs), Wednesday, 12 October 2005 07:56 (twenty years ago)

Yes. I have no idea what pigsback.com is and have no intention of ever going there, but I like the pig. It's really bright pink.

Paranoid Spice (kate), Wednesday, 12 October 2005 07:58 (twenty years ago)

yes, there is one floating around the office here. no idea where it came from. pigsback.com just seems to be a site harvesting email addresses in return for things that nobody really needs. it's like the dot.com bubble all over again.

koogs (koogs), Wednesday, 12 October 2005 08:13 (twenty years ago)

i ordered a PIRATE jacket.

g-kit (g-kit), Wednesday, 12 October 2005 08:17 (twenty years ago)

Delphi = Pascal, with stuff glued on - the big addition from the original 1968 Pascal is object-orientation syntax.

Forest Pines (ForestPines), Wednesday, 12 October 2005 08:34 (twenty years ago)

You mean you people don't still program in assembler?

You all sicken me.

tissp! (the impossible shortest specia), Wednesday, 12 October 2005 09:00 (twenty years ago)

Morning, UK Office People!

Technically, I'm not an office person. I'm "resting."

Matt (Matt), Wednesday, 12 October 2005 09:02 (twenty years ago)

you high-level pieces of scum

Ste (Fuzzy), Wednesday, 12 October 2005 09:09 (twenty years ago)

Low-level vs. High-level language FITE!

tissp! (the impossible shortest specia), Wednesday, 12 October 2005 09:10 (twenty years ago)

I'm starving hungry and cranky. What I've learned is, don't skip breakfast. I knew that already. I've got to figure out a non-rude way of asking my housemates to either formalise whatever time they eat breakfast like we formalised what time we take showers OR ELSE STOP TAKING UP THE ENTIRE BLOODY KITCHEN WHEN THEY DO HAVE BREAKFAST.

I feel like I'm being slowly squeezed out of my entire house. Maybe I should just move. :-(

Paranoid Spice (kate), Wednesday, 12 October 2005 09:29 (twenty years ago)

Are you still that that big house with the Underground sign in the hallway?

Just get up before everyone else. Or cook breakfast the night before and bung it in the microwave. Or have cereal and disappear into the lounge. Or something.

Come Back Johnny B (Johnney B), Wednesday, 12 October 2005 09:45 (twenty years ago)

I had been *TRYING* to get up and eat breakfast before everyone else. But for a start, that means I have to get up at 6.30 and I just cannot do that any more. And for a second, yesterday, they decided to get up and eat breakfast at 6.30. I honestly physically cannot get up any earlier.

And lounge? When was the last fucking time I was allowed in the sitting room? I'm just starting to feel more and more like a lodger in my own house. :-(

Hell is other people at breakfast.

Paranoid Spice (kate), Wednesday, 12 October 2005 09:50 (twenty years ago)

do you rent? or pwn?

g-kit (g-kit), Wednesday, 12 October 2005 09:52 (twenty years ago)

You've been banned from the sitting room? When did that happen? You didn't smash that massive smiling head, did you?

Come Back Johnny B (Johnney B), Wednesday, 12 October 2005 09:52 (twenty years ago)

or do you live on one of those shared houses where the sitting room actually consists of one couch, the rest of the room is either a pile of newspapers or boxes of lamps.

Ste (Fuzzy), Wednesday, 12 October 2005 09:56 (twenty years ago)

No, I live in a house with a bloke who has recently got married, and he and his wife have effectively taken over the sitting room. Which isn't a problem, as I rarely use it. The problem is that they seem to be utterly unable to commit to a schedule for using the kitchen in the morning.

His excuse was "oh, well, I have to get to work" - like DUDE, SO DO I!!! And if you have taken over the kitchen when I need it, I am late for work.

He's all "oh, pull out another leaf on the table and sit down" - ON WHAT?!??! Wife's fucking coats are all over the third chair, and how much time is it going to take to pull out another freaking leaf of the table, clear a space, etc. etc.? Especially when their juicemaking crap is ALL OVER THE ENTIRE KITCHEN WORKSPACE.

I don't want to go through this in the morning, before I've had my coffee.

I just have to move. This is becoming more and more clear. I have to live by myself, I don't care if it makes me peculiar.

Paranoid Spice (kate), Wednesday, 12 October 2005 10:00 (twenty years ago)

"makes me"

Come Back Johnny B (Johnney B), Wednesday, 12 October 2005 10:10 (twenty years ago)

dude, i live on my own, and there's nothing wrong with...
hmmm... ok, nevermind.

g-kit (g-kit), Wednesday, 12 October 2005 10:10 (twenty years ago)

You lived in a house with a big Underground sign in the hallway? I'm impressed!

Low-level vs. High-level language FITE!

"C is a high-level language" vs. "C is a low-level language" FITE!!!

Forest Pines (ForestPines), Wednesday, 12 October 2005 10:29 (twenty years ago)

Funny I was thinking similar thoughts, do you think it's more of a lower language on linux than for Windows?

Ste (Fuzzy), Wednesday, 12 October 2005 11:48 (twenty years ago)

That's not really a language question, that's more of a library question. ANSI/ISO C is C on any platform. In fact, as far as I'm aware, the standard C library is all but equivalent on different platforms too...

I think the idea of C being more low-level on Linux comes from the ability to hack the kernel...

tissp! (the impossible shortest specia), Wednesday, 12 October 2005 11:50 (twenty years ago)

Sigh.

Paranoid Spice (kate), Wednesday, 12 October 2005 11:51 (twenty years ago)

I'm disappointed in myself too, Kate.

tissp! (the impossible shortest specia), Wednesday, 12 October 2005 11:53 (twenty years ago)

Sorry, I'm just feeling very negative today lately.

Paranoid Spice (kate), Wednesday, 12 October 2005 11:57 (twenty years ago)

I think the idea of C being more low-level on Linux comes from the ability to hack the kernel...

yeah that's kinda where i was coming from.

Ste (Fuzzy), Wednesday, 12 October 2005 12:01 (twenty years ago)

Gnomish is a high-level language since it's racially exclusive and you need a high INT to take extra languages. Common is a low level language since every character can speak it by default, and all except barbarian characters can automatically read and write in common to boot.

innit.

g-kit (g-kit), Wednesday, 12 October 2005 12:02 (twenty years ago)

Hahaha

tissp! (the impossible shortest specia), Wednesday, 12 October 2005 12:14 (twenty years ago)

Remind me again why I came back to work today? I mean, we have *meetings* about how busy I am, where we waste time discussing how busy I am and how much I have to do, instead of letting me just sit down and do them. Argh.

Paranoid Spice (kate), Wednesday, 12 October 2005 12:51 (twenty years ago)

I've had meetings to discuss why I've got no time for work as well. They are faintly Kafkaesque in their ridiculousness, but hey, it worked; people stopped bugging me as much, which has to be a good thing.

(did I use that semi-colon in the right place? I always get confused with SCs)

Come Back Johnny B (Johnney B), Wednesday, 12 October 2005 14:11 (twenty years ago)

You did!!!

Forest Pines (ForestPines), Wednesday, 12 October 2005 14:11 (twenty years ago)

(did I use that semi-colon in the right place? I always get confused with SCs)

Are we back to C now?

tissp! (the impossible shortest specia), Wednesday, 12 October 2005 15:09 (twenty years ago)

Well, the point of that meeting was to dump a new project on me. And I've got ten minutes until I leave, and if they haven't put it together by then, I'm walking out the door.

Paranoid Spice (kate), Wednesday, 12 October 2005 15:19 (twenty years ago)

(they are talking about football on radio 4 because there's an international game against poland tonight)(i only know this because i heard the same bit on Today)

yes, but it's RADIO 4

it is meant to be a PROPER RADIO STATION

not a fucking FOOTBALL RADIO STATION

there are already enough of those.

emsk ( emsk), Wednesday, 12 October 2005 15:25 (twenty years ago)

what did they do before you arrived, kate?

radio 4 Today has always had a sports thing though, hasn't it? it's always giving out horse racing tips. or was this outside of the usual sport slot (i only caught 3 minutes)?

i also missed the 'reveal' of last night's CSI: Strawberry Blonde. anyone? who did the shootings and why?

koogs (koogs), Wednesday, 12 October 2005 15:30 (twenty years ago)

Now I understand why they were so desperate to hire me... or anyone... for this role. :-(

Anyway, I'm going home now to prepare for rehearsal.

Paranoid Spice (kate), Wednesday, 12 October 2005 15:31 (twenty years ago)

Hey Kate I was in Zara the other day and saw some nice-looking ridingesque boots and thought of you. Fairly flat-soled, but keep the riding shape/details.

Sorry for interrupting thread and all but I'm too lazy to look for the Fall Fashion thread...

sgs (sgs), Wednesday, 12 October 2005 15:40 (twenty years ago)

radio 4 Today has always had a sports thing though, hasn't it? it's always giving out horse racing tips. or was this outside of the usual sport slot (i only caught 3 minutes)?

yeah they do have a sports bit but usually that's the cue for me to lunge for the off button, fall out of bed, slither downstairs and put some coffee in the machine, by which time it's safe to turn the downstairs radio on as they're back to talking about, y'know, STUFF WORTH GIVING A SHIT ABOUT. today when i switched it back on it was some old bid explaining the off-side rule (note to entire world: THAT JOKE IS NOT FUCKING FUNNY ANY MORE. THE OFF-SIDE RULE IS VERY SIMPLE AND EVERYONE KNOWS HOW IT WORKS. PLEASE STOP IT) - i assumed it was one of those fuckawful bright'n'breezy stations and tried to retune it for about 30 seconds before realising this actually still was radio 4, pulling the thing out by the fucking plug and heading to the computer in a huff to write a sweary email to the today programme. on the today frontpage it said something like "why not tell us what you think of our new sports segment?" so i did.

emsk ( emsk), Wednesday, 12 October 2005 15:48 (twenty years ago)

> (note to entire world: THAT JOKE IS NOT FUCKING FUNNY ANY MORE. THE
> OFF-SIDE RULE IS VERY SIMPLE AND EVERYONE KNOWS HOW IT WORKS.
> PLEASE STOP IT)

b-but it changed last year to a much less concrete definition (player is deemed offside only if he's interfering with play or gains an advantage by being in that position) and hardly a match of the day goes by without pundits shaking their heads in confusion at the new version.

(the big problem with the off-side rule, imho, is its confusing name)

(oddly, though i hate sport with a passion (have phoned the bbc to complain myself when they've cancelled stuff because of sport overrunning), i find rules for games interesting)

koogs (koogs), Wednesday, 12 October 2005 16:02 (twenty years ago)

b-but it changed last year to a much less concrete definition (player is deemed offside only if he's interfering with play or gains an advantage by being in that position) and hardly a match of the day goes by without pundits shaking their heads in confusion at the new version.

i didn't know that. neither do i care. it's STILL FUCKING NOT FUNNY.

christ. i don't hate sport; i don't even hate football. it's when people treat it like it MATTERS, like it's IMPORTANT, that i hate. fucking wankers.

emsk ( emsk), Wednesday, 12 October 2005 16:11 (twenty years ago)

But it *does* matter to some people. Evidently I am a wanker.

ailsa (ailsa), Wednesday, 12 October 2005 16:21 (twenty years ago)

nonono. that's not what i mean. not that it shouldn't matter to an individual: this is what sport is for, surely. but that it matters in terms of GETTING ON THE FUCKING NEWS ALL THE FUCKING TIME etc. it is not news. it is football. oh look, a football match is happening: someone will win. or no one might. we know a band is playing a gig: it will be great. or it will be shit. you don't get news items like "coldplay's gig tonight at the dumbfuck auditorium went down a storm, although there was a moment of tension when they fluffed the intro to 'clocks'. chris martin says he is 'overjoyed'", do you? not that i'm suggesting we should obv, that would be fucking dreadful. i just think it would be good to fill the time sport takes up on the news with, you know, actual news.

emsk ( emsk), Wednesday, 12 October 2005 16:27 (twenty years ago)

it does puzzle me when the bbc news roundup is three sentences about three disasters somewhere and then two sentences about sport (especially that one time when the top sports item was about triple jump!) as if that's of equal importance. (see bbc front page at the moment)

the time i phoned the bbc was because a billy wilder tribute featuring two of his films that i wanted to see was cancelled because the yachting(!) overran by 2 hours.

(also puzzles me that given the choice of anyone in the whole world to kill (see that other thread) most people appear to choose travel related transgressors. but hey, i walk to work so...)

koogs (koogs), Wednesday, 12 October 2005 16:40 (twenty years ago)

(I heart Emsk)

Andrew Farrell (afarrell), Wednesday, 12 October 2005 16:43 (twenty years ago)

me too.

angle of d... (tingo), Wednesday, 12 October 2005 17:12 (twenty years ago)

no band practice for me this week. mew.

g-kit (g-kit), Thursday, 13 October 2005 09:11 (twenty years ago)

Well, I like football. And god knows, we need a bit of light relief. Usually on the today show you just get humphries arguing with politicians, and it's quite bracing, but all last week and all this week Today has been "WAR! FAMINE! EARTHQUAKE! MUDSLIDE! HURRICANE! DEAD PEOPLE! CRYING BABIES IN AGONY! THIS IS WHAT PEOPLE IN PAIN SOUND LIKE!" and hearing about Sven's tactical inepitude with substitutions has been a much needed break.

Come Back Johnny B (Johnney B), Thursday, 13 October 2005 09:23 (twenty years ago)

God, Channel 4 News last night - "EARTHQUAKE! FAMINE! LOST GENERATION! MORE WAR! WE'RE ALL GOING TO DIE OF BIRD 'FLU!" After that, even Pro-Celebrity Crown Green Bowling Live From Warminster With Dougie Donnelly would have been a relief!

Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Thursday, 13 October 2005 09:32 (twenty years ago)

Finally in. Rain and my shrink and Miss AMP's hangover conspiring to keep me from work. Thank god I don't take the Northern Line.

Good riding boots? Hurrah! However, Zara's sizes always run small; their clothes never fit me so I'm not holding out hope for their boots. :-( I think I'm just going to order some from the Barbour catalogue things I get in Country Life.

Paranoid Spice (kate), Thursday, 13 October 2005 09:56 (twenty years ago)

i'm waiting for my Pirate jacket to arrive. i thought it arrived about half hour ago, but it was some towels. bah.

g-kit (g-kit), Thursday, 13 October 2005 09:58 (twenty years ago)

So just how piratey is this pirate jacket? Photos, please?

How do you get creases out of a tweed jacket? It didn't travel well in the mails.

Paranoid Spice (kate), Thursday, 13 October 2005 10:10 (twenty years ago)

it's not very piratey until i pirate it up with some new buttons and braiding and fancy pap like that. in fact, it's quite a bit more of a Swdish Army WWII coat, but i'll soon deal with that. and and and and i got a big girl's blouse (quite literally) on the way too.

"how do you get creases out of a tweed jacket?" sounds so much like the opening of a joke! i don't know the punchline, but i reckon it'd be a groaner.

g-kit (g-kit), Thursday, 13 October 2005 10:15 (twenty years ago)

So, after chatting to the friendly, attractive temp for an hour or so, I asked her out for a drink...

"I don't like going out for drinks really - don't take it personally, even with my best friends I don't like going out for drinks and stuff. And we talk to each other here - I probably talk to you here more than I talk to my friends anyway. But if I feel like it, I'll give you a call."

Forest Pines (ForestPines), Thursday, 13 October 2005 10:16 (twenty years ago)

that's so wishy-washy. what the fuck does that even mean?

g-kit (g-kit), Thursday, 13 October 2005 10:18 (twenty years ago)

I wish my headache would go away. I was gauzy and diffuse with my shrink this morning and couldn't focus or concentrate and probably came off like a total mentalist. But then again, of course I'm a mentalist, or I wouldn't be seeing a shrink.

Paranoid Spice (kate), Thursday, 13 October 2005 10:38 (twenty years ago)

Eurgh, I feel icky!

Panther Pink (Pinkpanther), Thursday, 13 October 2005 10:47 (twenty years ago)

Oh no, why do you feel icky, sweetie?

Paranoid Spice (kate), Thursday, 13 October 2005 10:48 (twenty years ago)

(thinking about the conversation I had: it sounds more and more like a waffly way of saying "I like you, but not in that way")

Forest Pines (ForestPines), Thursday, 13 October 2005 10:51 (twenty years ago)

I'll email you K!

Panther Pink (Pinkpanther), Thursday, 13 October 2005 10:53 (twenty years ago)

Perhaps you're trying to apply too much pressure - if she's offering a friendship, then let it develop naturally? I mean, it does sound like she's taking it all quite good naturedly. But you can scare women off if you come on with too much pressure - it comes off as desperate and slightly scary. As in, one can get the sense that a person just wants a relationship with someone - ANYONE - rather than it being that you actually find *her* attractive?

Sorry, maybe I'm projecting, but it might be a "slow down" not a "stop"?

Paranoid Spice (kate), Thursday, 13 October 2005 10:54 (twenty years ago)

Well, it *could* be.

Forest Pines (ForestPines), Thursday, 13 October 2005 10:56 (twenty years ago)

still sounds like shocked waffle to me.

g-kit (g-kit), Thursday, 13 October 2005 10:57 (twenty years ago)

She didn't *sound* shocked. She sounded friendly, and she was smiling.

Forest Pines (ForestPines), Thursday, 13 October 2005 10:58 (twenty years ago)

rofflewaffle, then?

g-kit (g-kit), Thursday, 13 October 2005 10:59 (twenty years ago)

(I have edited it down a bit - that was the main part I could remember)

Forest Pines (ForestPines), Thursday, 13 October 2005 11:00 (twenty years ago)

you should just be like "ok, i'll come to your house, then."

bit hard to do without sounding like a desperate sex-pest, but it'd wipe the smile off her face.

which is probably something you don't want to do.

IGNORE ME, I'm quite obviously full of shit.

g-kit (g-kit), Thursday, 13 October 2005 11:04 (twenty years ago)

No, I don't think it would work very well.

Yesterday she was complaining that whenever she goes out to the pub it's with her male friends, and she's the only woman there; and she has to sit there and listen to them giving marks out of ten to the looks of every girl who walks past. So, I said: "at least if you go for a drink with me I won't be rating everybody else, which should be a nice change for you." She said "I should hope not," but seemed to like that.

Forest Pines (ForestPines), Thursday, 13 October 2005 11:24 (twenty years ago)

(and, *bloody hell*, I just had a *very hot* flirty phone conversation with someone at the other office. In fact, it was more her talking and me going "ummm...!!!")

(should I post it?)

Forest Pines (ForestPines), Thursday, 13 October 2005 11:59 (twenty years ago)

and listen to them giving marks out of ten to the looks of every girl who walks past

this really happens outside of TV Land?

g-kit (g-kit), Thursday, 13 October 2005 12:03 (twenty years ago)

Apparently so!

Forest Pines (ForestPines), Thursday, 13 October 2005 12:23 (twenty years ago)

look her in the eyes, make yours all big and watery like a puppy-dawg and just be like, "Ten."

i swear, it'll work.

g-kit (g-kit), Thursday, 13 October 2005 12:25 (twenty years ago)

Hahahahaha. That's SO TWEE

Forest Pines (ForestPines), Thursday, 13 October 2005 12:29 (twenty years ago)

I think I should get off ILX until this depression headache breaks. :-(

Paranoid Spice (kate), Thursday, 13 October 2005 12:31 (twenty years ago)

Aw, Kate.

Forest Pines (ForestPines), Thursday, 13 October 2005 12:31 (twenty years ago)

that's too lame to be twee.

depression headache? i recommend cookie.
itchy, flakey scalp? cookie.
hey, FP, give your girl a cookie, ffs. that'll do the trick.

g-kit (g-kit), Thursday, 13 October 2005 12:46 (twenty years ago)

I just realised I had forgotten to eat lunch. So your cookie suggestion was not far off.

Paranoid Spice (kate), Thursday, 13 October 2005 12:47 (twenty years ago)

magnificent cookie yesterday, so great that I went back there today but they had ran out! gah.

i'm having problems posting to ilx, it posts my message but then gets stuck in a loop and crashed. i have to reload the browser to connect again. its happened 3 times now.

Ste (Fuzzy), Thursday, 13 October 2005 12:54 (twenty years ago)

oh ffs ilx is just not letting me post properly this afternoon, it keeps crashing. I'm not typing all that again!!

Ste (Fuzzy), Thursday, 13 October 2005 13:06 (twenty years ago)

I said something very funny on ILM which is now gone, gone, gone forever... sigh.

Paranoid Spice (kate), Thursday, 13 October 2005 13:07 (twenty years ago)

so, what have we learned today?

the solution is often 'cookies'.

my work here is done! (but i'll be back. you don't get rid of me THAT easily)

g-kit (g-kit), Thursday, 13 October 2005 13:16 (twenty years ago)

Sigh. How depressing. I just got an email from my former housemate who's moved to Brighton and he's kind of chatting and talking about stuff... and then he asks me "So, getting any ass?" (cause we've always talked a lot about our sex/love lives) and it's just too depressing to write back and say "Actually, only in my dreams. That's how pathetic I am."

Paranoid Spice (kate), Thursday, 13 October 2005 13:18 (twenty years ago)

Yeah, I know. Have a cookie.

Paranoid Spice (kate), Thursday, 13 October 2005 13:18 (twenty years ago)

actually, i don't recommend cookie in the ass AT ALL.

g-kit (g-kit), Thursday, 13 October 2005 13:20 (twenty years ago)

That's not what it means, and you know it. :-P

Paranoid Spice (kate), Thursday, 13 October 2005 13:22 (twenty years ago)

yeah, but it made your... face go.. all.. digital and... sideways.. and your tongue fell out... and uh... that's what counts. right?

g-kit (g-kit), Thursday, 13 October 2005 13:28 (twenty years ago)

Eh? I just found money in my bag. How did that get there? Weird.

In a way I kind of wish I just wouldn't have sex dreams, because, although it's rather nice at the time, it does leave you feeling a bit more isolated when you wake up. Especially when you're trying to puzzle out "why did I dream about having sex with *him*?" and it's been so long since you had anything like a sex life that this is actually interesting in a navelgazing (see, I spelled it right there) kind of way.

Ach. I need to make up my mind if I'm going to the shoegazer club tonight. The mood I'm in I probably won't enjoy it, but I've been looking forward to it for months. I mean - JIM REID!!!

Paranoid Spice (kate), Thursday, 13 October 2005 13:33 (twenty years ago)

k, where did you get your bag plz? did you swap it for magic beans? i wants one!

g-kit (g-kit), Thursday, 13 October 2005 13:35 (twenty years ago)

It was only about £3. But still. I might go buy a cookie. And think about sex dreams.

Paranoid Spice (kate), Thursday, 13 October 2005 13:36 (twenty years ago)

sounds like a decent afternoon to me, boss.

g-kit (g-kit), Thursday, 13 October 2005 13:42 (twenty years ago)

so, what have we learned today?

the solution is often 'cookies'.

Unless you're concerned about people finding you've been looking at internet porn. In that case, the solution is more often 'delete cookies'.

In a way I kind of wish I just wouldn't have sex dreams

I find that the best way to reduce sex dreams is to masturbate more. At least that way you can control who you imagine having sex with.

Forest Pines (ForestPines), Thursday, 13 October 2005 13:42 (twenty years ago)

Should I go to the gig?

Should I not go to the gig?

Should I just go home? Or throw myself under a train on the way?

(n.b. I do not actually mean that, I'm just saying it for dramatic effect.)

x-post I can't even remember the last time I masturbated. Isn't that sad?

Paranoid Spice (kate), Thursday, 13 October 2005 13:43 (twenty years ago)

Right Kate, I've got the answer.
go to the gig
get horribly drunk
indulge in some self love

It doesn't have to be in that order either! ;-)

Panther Pink (Pinkpanther), Thursday, 13 October 2005 13:47 (twenty years ago)

not particularly, no.

i dunno what you should do. i'm not a spiritual advisor, i'm a rep for a cookie company. "follow your heart" is the best i can do. i'm going to stay home and play computer games. actually, go to the gig, since you have a choice. yeah! grab the horn by the balls. no, wait. fuck's sake. i'm so hopeless at this. go have fun! then go home and have a wank.

xpost huzzah!

g-kit (g-kit), Thursday, 13 October 2005 13:49 (twenty years ago)

some days i think i should be deleted.

g-kit (g-kit), Thursday, 13 October 2005 13:50 (twenty years ago)

Can't get horribly drunk. Have to work tomorrow and I'm already feeling rubbish enough after last night.

I can't even be *bothered* to have a wank. I think that's the most shocking part of all.

Anyway, I'm just whinging. I have a meeting in ten minutes. I wonder if I can take my stresspig. (I almost typed sexpig, ha ha.)

Paranoid Spice (kate), Thursday, 13 October 2005 13:50 (twenty years ago)

Thinking about it, it's just cause I have the fear it's going to be another of those "you go and you stand on your own, and you leave on your own, and you go home and you cry and you want to die" nights if I end up going to the club by myself. :-(

I think shoegazer boy is going, but I just don't want to have another discussion of why the music I love is manufactured and therefore shite.

I feel like I should be making the effort to go out and meet people. But what's the point of going out and meeting people if you feel downright rubbish?

Paranoid Spice (kate), Thursday, 13 October 2005 13:56 (twenty years ago)

to help yourself feel better.

g-kit (g-kit), Thursday, 13 October 2005 13:58 (twenty years ago)

G-kit OTM!

Panther Pink (Pinkpanther), Thursday, 13 October 2005 14:03 (twenty years ago)

first time for everything, yo.

g-kit (g-kit), Thursday, 13 October 2005 14:04 (twenty years ago)

i tried a magic 8-ball to decide my night out tonight, but i got:

"will i go out tonight" - don't count on it
"will I stay in tonight" - don't count on it
er
"will I just stand in the doorway tonight" - my reply is no

Ste (Fuzzy), Thursday, 13 October 2005 14:04 (twenty years ago)

ha ha. i am having exactly the same thoughts about exactly the same gig...

just popped into work (am on holiday officially) to pick up emails and to see if charlie needed any cocteau twins for his dj thing tomorrow (i'm guessing he didn't). they have all but one of the windows closed and the heating turned up to maximum. it's like a sweatbox. crazy.

FP, what about asking her out for coffee rather than 'drinks'?

ok, off to get money out of bank. then maybe to the tate and gig. or i might stay in and listen to peel. who knows.

koogs (koogs), Thursday, 13 October 2005 14:14 (twenty years ago)

Going out to make yourself feel better is pointless. I find that just moping along and making yourself busy (but not too busy) usually helps me feel not AS rubbish as before. Then I get better, and feel like going out and meeting people. ANd then I feel a LOT better.

The answer is, of course Kate, do what you want to do. Sounds like you don't want to go out tonight. Well, don't then.

Come Back Johnny B (Johnney B), Thursday, 13 October 2005 14:22 (twenty years ago)

Argh, why did I miss Koogsy? Cause I would have said "if you go, I'll go..." but now I've missed him and I don't have his mobile and argh.

Thing is, if you force yourself to socialise when you're really not feeling up for it, sometimes you can actually make yourself feel a whole lot *worse*.

Paranoid Spice (kate), Thursday, 13 October 2005 15:07 (twenty years ago)

hello, i've been busy all day.

Well, I like football. And god knows, we need a bit of light relief.

if you want football LISTEN TO A FUCKING FOOTBALL STATION.

if you want light relief DO NOT LISTEN TO RADIO FUCKING 4. (except the news quiz and whatnot.)

jesus.

how complicated is it?

emsk ( emsk), Thursday, 13 October 2005 16:29 (twenty years ago)

What if you don't want to listen to football all the time, but just want to catch up with the latest news? Is it just football that bugs you, or were you the same when they were talking about cricket during the Ashes? Or tennis when Wimbledon is on? Or the progress of British competitors during the Olympics/Commonwealth Games etc?

ailsa (ailsa), Thursday, 13 October 2005 16:33 (twenty years ago)

STOP TALKING ABOUT GODDAMN FOOTBALL ON MY FUCKING THREAD!!!!

THIS IS A FOOTBALL FUCKING FREE ZONE!!! AND THAT INCLUDES BEING FREE OF MOANING ABOUT FOOTBALL!!!!!

Paranoid Spice (kate), Thursday, 13 October 2005 16:35 (twenty years ago)

Oh, see, I thought this was a thread for people talking about the sort of things they talk about around watercoolers. I also thought, you know, that it was a thread for people on ILX, not just for you.

ailsa (ailsa), Thursday, 13 October 2005 16:46 (twenty years ago)

No, it's *my* thread. There's already enough threads about football on ILX. This is not one of them.

Paranoid Spice (kate), Thursday, 13 October 2005 16:48 (twenty years ago)

And that's pretty much torn it. I'm not going to the gig tonight, I'm past a rotten mood and into randomly kicking strangers and stray dogs territory so I'm going home and going to bed.

Paranoid Spice (kate), Thursday, 13 October 2005 16:49 (twenty years ago)

EXACTLY the same when it's the fucking cricket, in fact a million times worse because cricket goes on FOREVER, fucking WEEKS AND WEEKS FOR ONE FUCKING GAME, and is the most tedious dreary fucking game in the history of the fucking world. AND the olympics, AND the tennis. just FUCK OFF! bargh. at least the olympics is only every four years. but seriously, if i can i am leaving london in january 2011 and coming back in january 2013.

(oops kate. i totally thought this was valid watercooler chat. but then, i have - thank FUCK - never worked in the sort of office where people congregate around a watercooler, so what would i know)

emsk ( emsk), Thursday, 13 October 2005 16:51 (twenty years ago)

Yeah, sorry, Kate, I just thought the idea was to have a conversation with folk, which I was doing with Emsk since, you know, that's what you do with people. I wasn't disagreeing, pissing on anyone's chips, I was just carrying on a conversation.

Sorry if that's not allowed on this thread, it seems to be the done thing everywhere else on this board. Maybe you should make it a bit clearer (like re-titling it "UK Office Watercooler Kate-approved Conversation", that sort of thing?).

I'm not being facetious with this suggestion, honestly. I just don't want to be the straw that broke the camel's back through no fault of my own.

ailsa (ailsa), Thursday, 13 October 2005 16:56 (twenty years ago)

Also, SHOEGAZING! CUTE BOYS! JIM REID! I would totally go with you if I weren't in Glasgow, or if this was in Glasgow! Please go, I'll feel shite if you don't...

ailsa (ailsa), Thursday, 13 October 2005 17:00 (twenty years ago)

Jim only gazes at his shoes because he's too pissed to lift his chin.

I'll exit quickly now before I mention f-

Onimo (GerryNemo), Thursday, 13 October 2005 17:43 (twenty years ago)

Sorry, Aisla, the problem with people talking about sport is, even if they are talking about how much they hate sport, it's only a matter of time before someone starts going Oh no, you're wrong, sport is great! And then suddenly a nice sport-free thread has become a thread about sport. I'd rather just pretend it doesn't exist.

Anyway. I didn't go to the gig in the end. I went home - and then wished I hadn't because my housemate decided to throw me out of the house because I'd had the audacity to suggest a kitchen schedule similar to our bathroom schedule so that *all* of us can get to work on time, not just him and his wife. And this, apparently, means that I'm a rude and inconsiderate cunt and I clearly must hate him because I don't want to eat in the kitchen at the same time as him (yeah - in what SPACE?!??!) and I never hang out in the sitting room - even though they sit in there with the door closed, and yeah, it's so delightful to sit and watch someone else's choice of TV especially with a canoodling couple on the only couch, and I never go down the pub with him like all his other housemates did (when he wasn't married, that is) and ... BAH!!!

It's just one more fucking bit of stress I didn't need. I work 50 to 60 hours a week, I am trying to hold my band together, I'm under so much stress I've been sent for therapy - and now I'm being thrown out of my house because I'm not "social" enough and when I get home from 10 to 12 hour days, I prefer to crawl into bed with comfort food.

I have got to live by myself again, it is the only way. :-(

Paranoid Spice (kate), Friday, 14 October 2005 06:58 (twenty years ago)

I'm not even upset so much about getting kicked out... I mean, yeah, OK, I *am* upset about having to move again. But that part, I expected. It's hell living with a new couple, and I was planning on leaving anyway.

What is pissing me off was how my housemate couldn't say this without getting in this freaking insult and dig against my personality. Like I feel like I'm being thrown out for being an introvert.

Throw me out because you need the space, throw me out because I have noisy band rehearsal - but don't you DARE fucking judge me as not worthy to live in your house because I keep myself to myself. I would think that was an ideal trait in a housemate.

Paranoid Spice (kate), Friday, 14 October 2005 07:05 (twenty years ago)

living on your pwn rocks!
i can't fault it. if i had the choice/circumstances, i'd never change a thing. my own little twee house, with nobody else in it. whee!

g-kit (g-kit), Friday, 14 October 2005 07:07 (twenty years ago)

I found it a bit too lonely myself.

Forest Pines (ForestPines), Friday, 14 October 2005 07:21 (twenty years ago)

I can handle loneliness. I would rather be lonely than feel constantly hemmed in on every side.

Dare is coming to stay in London for a month, so she says I can crash with her if things get too tense at home. I just want to get out of there ASAP now. I don't want to stay somewhere I'm so clearly not wanted.

bah. I've calmed down since last night, when he told me - I spent an hour on the phone to my mum saying that I might as well kill myself because I was so obviously a shit person I couldn't live with anyone. :-( But it feels like now this depression I've been under for the past few weeks will *never* break.

Paranoid Spice (kate), Friday, 14 October 2005 07:24 (twenty years ago)

cookie?
can't do any better than that atm. i'm pissed off now, too.

g-kit (g-kit), Friday, 14 October 2005 07:29 (twenty years ago)

kate kate, that sux, i'm sorry. but PAH - to be honest, when you said they were getting married and she was moving in i couldn't help thinking that would be the WORST living situation i could think of: being one person living with a couple, especially when one of the couple owns the house and is your landlord. if there was even one more person in the house it'd be better... personally i'd hate to be the permanent gooseberry like that, and i don't know how you did it for even this long.

and i know the house is great and the garden is great and your room is nice and big but you have NEIGHBOURS FROM HELL and it's gonna be such a frickin' relief not to have to deal with THEM any more, and there are many many houses just like your current one in your area (or pretty much all over london, come to that) with less space/time-hogging housemates.

actually there was a room advertised on the uwc list that sounded gorgeous about a week ago, in dulwich village, i think i kept the email for some reason - mail.com won't let me sign in right now but remind me and i'll forward it to you if you like?

emsk ( emsk), Friday, 14 October 2005 07:37 (twenty years ago)

ok, i feel lots better now cos i found a local guy who can pot my pickups for me. hoorah.
i'm still kinda bummed about being told off though. but i shall be a good kit and just let it go. aye, good kit.

also, my jacket and big girl's blouse just arrived. hoorah!
good kit.

g-kit (g-kit), Friday, 14 October 2005 07:39 (twenty years ago)

BOLLOCKS

i can't find the email

perhaps it was sion's list rather than the uwc list

i'll dig it out

emsk ( emsk), Friday, 14 October 2005 07:48 (twenty years ago)

I just don't want to live with strangers any more. Either I'm going to live by myself, completely by myself, and just not deal with having to share the kitchen AT ALL, or else I want to live with people who know me well enough either to understand that if I want to spend the evening in my room with my laptop it's cause I'm tired and want to rest - or people I know well enough that I would actually WANT to spend time in the living room with them.

So don't worry about it, Emsk.

Paranoid Spice (kate), Friday, 14 October 2005 07:50 (twenty years ago)

Aww Kate, what a fucker! *hugglez* I think moving in on your own would be a good thing to do, so that you don't have to deal with this shit all of the time! You were talking about buying somewhere, what happened to that idea?

Morning everyone!

Panther Pink (Pinkpanther), Friday, 14 October 2005 08:11 (twenty years ago)

if you need a distraction, go take a look at the all black Jaguar Special HH with matching headstock that's on ebay UK atm. i've been pawing the screen and dribbling for an hour now.

g-kit (g-kit), Friday, 14 October 2005 08:17 (twenty years ago)

I haven't had the time to save up a deposit to buy somewhere. And I need to run some stats on our database to confirm this, but I suspect that it takes more than 5 weeks start to finish to buy a house - even if I were to find the perfect place tomorrow.

And if I get my own flat in the meanwhile - first, my rent and bills will double because I'm not sharing, and the little savings I do have will be diminished by deposit and moving expenses. :-(

My mum was even suggesting I go and stay with my family in Herts for a while - it's on the Thameslink so I could commute. I can't believe I'm actually considering it.

Paranoid Spice (kate), Friday, 14 October 2005 08:22 (twenty years ago)

Well if you did do that for a while Kate, you could save up enough for a deposit.

Panther Pink (Pinkpanther), Friday, 14 October 2005 08:23 (twenty years ago)

The problem with that, as with everything else, is that if I move out of the cachement area for the clinic I've just started at, then I lose my treatment. I don't want to have to go through that again.

I'm sick of talking about it, thinking about it, etc. Pictures of pointy nosed ginger sea captains, and cute boys with Scottish castles, please.

Paranoid Spice (kate), Friday, 14 October 2005 08:28 (twenty years ago)

jag no good? i could photoshop a pointy nose onto it..

g-kit (g-kit), Friday, 14 October 2005 08:29 (twenty years ago)

I don't know; just not that excited by guitars at the moment. Haven't really been inspired to play mine lately. I've been making crazy chiming clockenspiel samples in Reason, that's just about the only thing that excites me musically right now.

Paranoid Spice (kate), Friday, 14 October 2005 08:33 (twenty years ago)

Your search - castle of bobby gillespie - did not match any documents.

Paranoid Spice (kate), Friday, 14 October 2005 08:35 (twenty years ago)

Your search - sailor moon fender jaguar - did not match any documents.

i feel your pain.

g-kit (g-kit), Friday, 14 October 2005 08:38 (twenty years ago)

If only I'd gone to the club last night to see Jim Reid. I would have had more scowling Scots stripey-shirted pointy-nosed shoegazer boys than I could fit in a Country Life castle.

Paranoid Spice (kate), Friday, 14 October 2005 08:40 (twenty years ago)

them's the breaks.

g-kit (g-kit), Friday, 14 October 2005 08:41 (twenty years ago)

anyway, i'm off to do some work. laters.

g-kit (g-kit), Friday, 14 October 2005 08:41 (twenty years ago)

i found a local guy who can pot my pickups for me.

What does this mean, G?

Also, no-one asked FP to print the "very hot" conversation with the girl from the other office. What the hell were you all thinking?

Markelby (Mark C), Friday, 14 October 2005 08:58 (twenty years ago)

If only I'd gone to the club last night to see Jim Reid. I would have had more scowling Scots stripey-shirted pointy-nosed shoegazer boys than I could fit in a Country Life castle.

That description hardly fits Jim Reid in 2005

Dadaismus (Dada), Friday, 14 October 2005 09:13 (twenty years ago)

Don't destroy my dreams. In my head, it's still 1985. OK, maybe not 1985 because I would have been jailbait then, but then again, he seemed to be into that sort of thing.

(And don't destroy my dreams that his fans haven't aged either.)

Paranoid Spice (kate), Friday, 14 October 2005 09:14 (twenty years ago)

Alright, maybe he does in 2005, a guy I know was playing with him two years ago and he look liked a librarian then

Dadaismus (Dada), Friday, 14 October 2005 09:17 (twenty years ago)

... in fact, he'd reverted to type!

Dadaismus (Dada), Friday, 14 October 2005 09:17 (twenty years ago)

Librarians can be HOTT.

Paranoid Spice (kate), Friday, 14 October 2005 09:18 (twenty years ago)

Oh yes, I know that! You're telling me!

Dadaismus (Dada), Friday, 14 October 2005 09:18 (twenty years ago)

In fact, a sullen Scottish librarian who's into dronerock sounds like the hottest thing on earth. (Except for pointy nosed ginger sea captains, but how many of them are around?)

Paranoid Spice (kate), Friday, 14 October 2005 09:20 (twenty years ago)

Also, no-one asked FP to print the "very hot" conversation with the girl from the other office. What the hell were you all thinking?

I actually tried this several times but ILX was being mental.

tissp! (the impossible shortest specia), Friday, 14 October 2005 09:20 (twenty years ago)

Erm, blimey. He looks quite "normal" but he's still pretty:

http://www.amniisia.com/jimreid/images/jimsologhost.jpg

Time has been kinder to him than to Kill Phing:

http://www.amniisia.com/jimreid/images/jimphil.jpg

Paranoid Spice (kate), Friday, 14 October 2005 09:24 (twenty years ago)

Here is an *actual* librarian named Jim Reid for comparison, in the Conservation Unit of the Frances Loeb Library at Yale:

http://www.gsd.harvard.edu/library/conservation/images/jim.jpg

Paranoid Spice (kate), Friday, 14 October 2005 09:26 (twenty years ago)

> I don't have his mobile

b-but i don't have a mobile. yes, me and some bloke in the outer hebrides who couldn't get reception anyway, we are the last two people in the whole world who don't have one. that said, one would've been useful last night after walking the length of old street (both west and east) TWICE trying to find the venue and then having to stand up all evening. telescopes didn't play. left a song and a half into jim reid due to lateness of the hour and having been standing up / walking around for about 6 hours by then.

the two tingles down the back of the neck songs from last night: Strawberry Wine and Safety Net.

oh, saw Bobby G. and, i think, Jim's sister Linda.

koogs (koogs), Friday, 14 October 2005 09:28 (twenty years ago)

x-post Sigh.

But time has certainly been kinder to Jim than to brother William Reid (possibly a writer rather than a librarian):

http://www.writers.net/user/home/photos/18124.jpg

Paranoid Spice (kate), Friday, 14 October 2005 09:29 (twenty years ago)

the two tingles down the back of the neck songs from last night: Strawberry Wine and Safety Net.

aaaaaahhhhh!!! I haven't heard Strawberry Wine in YEARS and it's one of my favourite songs ever. I have Safety Net, but I don't have a turntable to play it on. Bah.

Paranoid Spice (kate), Friday, 14 October 2005 09:32 (twenty years ago)

(Also, are you sure it was the real Bobby G? Every Sonic Cathedral usually contains about 3 or 4 lookylikes.)

Paranoid Spice (kate), Friday, 14 October 2005 09:33 (twenty years ago)

he had the right accent and was talking to the girl (who also had the accent) who was probably Sister Vanilla. and yes, stripey shirt. (i think showing the entirety of the mary chain video collection before jim reid took to the stage didn't really do him any favours - who could live up to the 20 year younger version of themselves?)

was odd, spent the evening wondering whether all the people there were old duffers like me but who had just aged better or people who had discovered it later. some of them looked liked they hadn't even been born when i was spending my lunch money on Never Understand.

koogs (koogs), Friday, 14 October 2005 09:38 (twenty years ago)

My impression of the last few has been that it's a mixture - lots of old timers like you and me, and quite a few younger people discovering it for the first time, or getting into it through shoegazer revival stuff!

OK, I'm still mad at Bobby G for cutting the queue at the Stooges gig. Ron wouldn't let us talk to him cause "aw, that Crazy Bobby - he's nuts, you want to stay away from him, especially if he's been drinking!"

Paranoid Spice (kate), Friday, 14 October 2005 09:41 (twenty years ago)

Do the posts above mean I have to tell you yesterday's hott phone conversation now, then?

Forest Pines (ForestPines), Friday, 14 October 2005 10:03 (twenty years ago)

Yes.

tissp! (the impossible shortest specia), Friday, 14 October 2005 10:04 (twenty years ago)

Every day, everyone at the office has to log out of a particular database. The remote office often forget, so when I phone them back to tell them they can log in again I'm supposed to do a bit of a whinge.

So, yesterday, the database user at the remote site - who I've never actually met - realises and apologises:

DB User: "I forgot to log out, didn't I. It's so naughty of me."
Me: "It is, yes. I need to tell you off. I should come over there and spank you.
DBU: "Oooh, yes, you should. I could definitely do with that. Are you going to come over and do it, then."
Me: "That sounded like an invitation!"
DBU: "I've got a riding whip - I go riding, you see - I think you should give me a good whipping for it."
Me: "That would be ... irresistable!"
DBU: "I could do with a bit of that. You need to give me a good whipping, with me just wearing my riding boots and a smile."
Me: "You realise I'm not going to be able to think about anything else all afternoon now?"

Forest Pines (ForestPines), Friday, 14 October 2005 10:12 (twenty years ago)

Blimey.

tissp! (the impossible shortest specia), Friday, 14 October 2005 10:13 (twenty years ago)

That was my reaction too.

Forest Pines (ForestPines), Friday, 14 October 2005 10:14 (twenty years ago)

(not to mention, the other office is very much open-plan, so when one person is on the phone everyone else there can hear what they're saying.)

Forest Pines (ForestPines), Friday, 14 October 2005 10:16 (twenty years ago)

TBH, I wouldn't read much into it except boredom. I flirt shamelessly with the bloke who handles our credit card transactions because, well, we started making jokes about pirates, and it kicked off from there. Doesn't mean I actually want to follow through on it.

Though it does make the day a little more... fun or interesting or whatever.

Paranoid Spice (kate), Friday, 14 October 2005 10:25 (twenty years ago)

Oh, yes, I'm sure you're right. But it was fun, though.

Forest Pines (ForestPines), Friday, 14 October 2005 10:29 (twenty years ago)

What does this mean, G?


i like it when people call me G.
hurrah!
potting pickups isn't a euphamism, don't worry. it means ripping them out of my guitar and soaking them in hot wax until all the air bubbles are filled with wax, which prevents the coil vibrating against itself, which means no more squealing feedback when i crank my amp and apply enough distortion to crack the earth in two.

g-kit (g-kit), Friday, 14 October 2005 10:29 (twenty years ago)

> which means no more squealing feedback

you say that like squealing feedback is a bad thing.

koogs (koogs), Friday, 14 October 2005 10:37 (twenty years ago)

i mean the squealing, ear destroying microphonic feedback that single coils are prone to and sound engineers tell you off for, rather than the beautiful harmonic feedback, which i adore, and is a different beast altogether, caused by string resonance and such, rather than pickup madness.

g-kit (g-kit), Friday, 14 October 2005 10:41 (twenty years ago)

Time has been kinder to him than to Kill Phing

You mean Phil King? Oh, I've met him many a times, he looks alright. Jim's losing the old thatch tho, innit?

Dadaismus (Dada), Friday, 14 October 2005 10:42 (twenty years ago)

Look at the pictures! Oh wait, bah, they're red X's now.

Paranoid Spice (kate), Friday, 14 October 2005 10:43 (twenty years ago)

ooh, i didn't realise we sold a book about pirates. cool! this job does have its perks, after all. research time.

g-kit (g-kit), Friday, 14 October 2005 10:45 (twenty years ago)

Lunchtime now. And I brought stuff so I don't even get to go out and have halloumi sandwich and krispy kreme.

Then again, I might go out during the afternoon and get some anyway.

Bah, I just feel rubbish. The last thing I want to do is go home and sit in my room feeling like I can't leave it because they're in the kitchen and they've made it perfectly clear they hate me and don't want me around. But I can't face being around other people if all I'm going to do is sit in a corner and cry my eyes out. :-(

Paranoid Spice (kate), Friday, 14 October 2005 11:07 (twenty years ago)

I've been feeling rubbish myself lately - worried that money problems from the past are going to come back and get me made bankrupt, or put into prison, or something like that.

Forest Pines (ForestPines), Friday, 14 October 2005 11:13 (twenty years ago)

(which is probably a huge overreaction on my part, but it's always a worse-possible-case scenario. I have some nasty unpaid council tax from a couple of years back; the council I owed it, or their debt collectors, have not contacted me since I moved to another area. All the stuff in the news about council tax protestors being put into prison for non-payment is a bit worrying for me)

Forest Pines (ForestPines), Friday, 14 October 2005 11:18 (twenty years ago)

hell is other people.

renting places from people you're living from is always bad, because it's their house, their rules. better if you're with people on an equal footing (until their girlfriends come to stay). yours sounds like both of the above. i only found living alone bad when i was unemployed and would literally not speak to people other than shop assitants, bus drivers or job centre employees from one week to the next. it'll be about £1k a month for a place of your own though.

grand designs starts again on wednesday. maybe you should build your own pod somewhere.

off home to watch Jassy. back monday.

koogs (koogs), Friday, 14 October 2005 11:20 (twenty years ago)

That just suddenly reminds me that if I get a place on my own, I have to watch that it doesn't come exclusive of bills, council tax, etc. Fuck me. I know that you *can* get studio apartments with bills included - I've had them before. But here was I thinking that a studio or one bed in Streatham would be more like £600/£700.

Paranoid Spice (kate), Friday, 14 October 2005 11:23 (twenty years ago)

It also comes down to... you know, what do you *expect* from a housemate? I don't expect my housemates to be my best friends, buddies, people I hang out with. It's different if you're living with people you knew before - but generally, if I've found a house through Loot or the Guardian or something, I'll be polite, cordial, even friendly, but I do not expect to be eating dinner with them or going down the pub with them. It's the exception if that happens, not the rule.

Paranoid Spice (kate), Friday, 14 October 2005 11:29 (twenty years ago)

This wouldn't have hurt me so much - yeah, it's a nuisance but whatever - it wouldn't have hurt without the fucking personal shit. Which just clues right into my depression and makes it worse. That yeah, it's because I'm a *shit* person.

And no matter how many friends tell you "no, it's just an unworkable situation all around" that doesn't stop the thoughtworms that say "it's because you're rubbish, and you're a fundamentally dislikable person" and that's when I start to get the urges to just throw myself under a train so no one will ever have my rubbish personality inflicted on them again.

Paranoid Spice (kate), Friday, 14 October 2005 11:42 (twenty years ago)

...and now I'm going to be told off and shouted at for expressing "self depreciation" in public. Lose-lose situation.

Paranoid Spice (kate), Friday, 14 October 2005 11:45 (twenty years ago)

I killed my own thread. Bah, I feel like I have the touch of death today. Maybe I should go get a krispy kreme.

Paranoid Spice (kate), Friday, 14 October 2005 12:22 (twenty years ago)

sorry, i been busy. cookie!

donuts, pah.
i can do no more that heartily recommend living alone. i've never felt lonely.

g-kit (g-kit), Friday, 14 October 2005 12:27 (twenty years ago)

So who's full after a big Friday lunch? Not me. For once I ate something sensible-sized.

tissp! (the impossible shortest specia), Friday, 14 October 2005 13:16 (twenty years ago)

i skipped lunch.

g-kit (g-kit), Friday, 14 October 2005 13:17 (twenty years ago)

For any reason?

tissp! (the impossible shortest specia), Friday, 14 October 2005 13:18 (twenty years ago)

I've just had two donuts. Raspberry flavour and cheesecake flavour. It's astonishing how much the cheesecake one tasted like a cheesecake.

I'm getting through the afternoon fantasising about James Bond.

Paranoid Spice (kate), Friday, 14 October 2005 13:20 (twenty years ago)

cos i wasn't very hungry, like.

g-kit (g-kit), Friday, 14 October 2005 13:27 (twenty years ago)

kate, are you in double 0 'heaven'?

GET IN!

Ste (Fuzzy), Friday, 14 October 2005 13:33 (twenty years ago)

i wanna be in double D heaven

g-kit (g-kit), Friday, 14 October 2005 13:35 (twenty years ago)

No, I'm having trouble keeping a focus even on sexual fantasies.

Or perhaps I don't find Bond as sexy as I found him when I was 11. Surprise, surprise.

Paranoid Spice (kate), Friday, 14 October 2005 13:35 (twenty years ago)

Guess what the head of the department just brought back for us after lunch. Krispy Kreme. I feel ill just looking at them now.

Paranoid Spice (kate), Friday, 14 October 2005 14:04 (twenty years ago)

...and here is the bit of the evening where I try to figure out if I should go straight home and lock myself in my room, wander around aimlessly until it's late enough that my housemates might be asleep, or maybe risk going to this party or going to Poptimism with the fear that I'll end up sitting alone in a corner crying my eyes out.

Paranoid Spice (kate), Friday, 14 October 2005 15:47 (twenty years ago)

Party doesn't start until 8pm. Don't want to hang around for 2 hours by myself. *Really* not looking forward to going home.

Yes, I'm talking to myself, it's not like anyone else is going to talk to me at the moment. :-(

Paranoid Spice (kate), Friday, 14 October 2005 16:09 (twenty years ago)

I will talk to you K!

Who else is going to the party?

tissp! (the impossible shortest specia), Friday, 14 October 2005 16:18 (twenty years ago)

Don't know. It's being held by this novelist chick that I know. I think Miss Amp and Frances (currently and formerly of my band) will be there. Also possibly some of the Plan B girls. But I don't really want to get drunk or stay out late, which is why I'm avoiding Poptimism.

Paranoid Spice (kate), Friday, 14 October 2005 16:21 (twenty years ago)

Fair enough. Sounds like it could be fun, and if there are people there you know, it should be fun. I say go.

Are the Plan B girls from the magazine?

tissp! (the impossible shortest specia), Friday, 14 October 2005 16:24 (twenty years ago)

Yes, from the magazine, and other writer chicks. Amy's parties usually have an interesting and intelligent crowd. I'm just not sure how much I'm feeling up to being interesting or intelligent.

Paranoid Spice (kate), Friday, 14 October 2005 16:25 (twenty years ago)

Then don't feel obliged! Let the intelligent and interesting conversation wash over you, just enjoy it!

Interestingly, one of the Plan B girls isn't called Hannah by any chance are they?

tissp! (the impossible shortest specia), Friday, 14 October 2005 16:26 (twenty years ago)

I don't really know. Been a while since I was at a Plan B thing. This isn't a Plan B thing, but there will probably be intersection.

Paranoid Spice (kate), Friday, 14 October 2005 16:27 (twenty years ago)

I only ask because Chris used to go out with her, and has lost her contact details...

tissp! (the impossible shortest specia), Friday, 14 October 2005 16:28 (twenty years ago)

kate! come to poptimism! there will be shitloads of ppl who like you and can kick yr paranoia into touch :) i just got home. saw s this am and he said jim reid was bobbins - pissed out of his heid and guitar out of tune and incapable of remembering a song. so you missed naught. i have just seen v hott eastern european boy outside the duke of york, rowr. i went to top shop and new look and it was UGH HORRID and it stressed me out so much i had too go and sit in the pub by myself for an hour.

emsk ( emsk), Friday, 14 October 2005 16:28 (twenty years ago)

...in other words you have to go, just to go on a spying mission for me ;)

tissp! (the impossible shortest specia), Friday, 14 October 2005 16:28 (twenty years ago)

uh, had to go and sit in the pub

emsk ( emsk), Friday, 14 October 2005 16:29 (twenty years ago)

Yeah, but there are also enough people at Poptimism that I would want to punch on sight. I don't know. I should go eat some dinner and then decide but I'm sick of eating dinner by myself. It's kind of sad.

Paranoid Spice (kate), Friday, 14 October 2005 16:29 (twenty years ago)

Did I say 'spying'? I meant, er...

Er...

...never mind.

tissp! (the impossible shortest specia), Friday, 14 October 2005 16:30 (twenty years ago)

Look, I want to shag James Bond, not be James Bond. Or, erm, do I?

Paranoid Spice (kate), Friday, 14 October 2005 16:30 (twenty years ago)

I want to be the supercoolsexyspystress that finally KILLS the fucker. It's a lust/hate thing.

Paranoid Spice (kate), Friday, 14 October 2005 16:31 (twenty years ago)

I'm on the wrong thread aren't I?

Paranoid Spice (kate), Friday, 14 October 2005 16:32 (twenty years ago)

Mmm, complex. Well if you go and she's there, ask her if she used to go out with Chris. If so get her email!

tissp! (the impossible shortest specia), Friday, 14 October 2005 16:33 (twenty years ago)

(This is not as sinister as it all sounds, btw...)

tissp! (the impossible shortest specia), Friday, 14 October 2005 16:33 (twenty years ago)

Emsk, what time are you going to Poptimism? Cause if you're not going until 9pm I don't want to hang around by myself for ages. Do you want to go to pub/food first?

(I'm kind of scared, TISSP. If she's a Londoner, she's much more likely to be at an actual Plan B event and I'm going to one next week so I will see if she is there.)

Paranoid Spice (kate), Friday, 14 October 2005 16:35 (twenty years ago)

That would be good if you could. As far as I'm aware it's not at all stalkerish, he just fell out of contact and now wishes he could talk to her again (in a purely platonic way). Be a weird coincidence if nothing else...

tissp! (the impossible shortest specia), Friday, 14 October 2005 16:37 (twenty years ago)

kate, i just got home so am about to jump in shower, russki is making some stir fry which i will eat when i get out, then i will have a wardrobe crisis (am practising Being A Girl), decide ah fuckit to wear jeans and then it'll be 30-45 mins til i'm there. so er, yeah, probably about 9.

emsk ( emsk), Friday, 14 October 2005 16:39 (twenty years ago)

Kate, you're coming to the Plan B gig in Brighton? I'll see you there! Emsk, you're gonna look, how you say? "hott" tonight whateva, y'know? ;)

angle of d... (tingo), Friday, 14 October 2005 16:51 (twenty years ago)

Yeah, I'm missing Ulruch "Uber-Shoegazer" Schnauss for Kevin Bletchdum.

My mum is on the phone now telling me to just go home. Sigh.

Paranoid Spice (kate), Friday, 14 October 2005 16:53 (twenty years ago)

...and Simon Bookish and Printed Circuit... should be good? I love Ulrich Shnauss too though, saw him at Bestival, it was lovely, and for some reason inspired me to buy as guitar synthesiser on eBay.

Can't you be a sauve and sophisticated superspywoman at Poptimism for a while? There might be baddies there, but you can just fuck em and kill em, right?

angle of d... (tingo), Friday, 14 October 2005 17:00 (twenty years ago)

Errrrrrrr... not exactly a good idea that. Kind of what I'm avoiding, actually.

Paranoid Spice (kate), Friday, 14 October 2005 17:07 (twenty years ago)

I guess I'm just gonna go stick my head in the pub and see who's there and if I see any baddies run away.

Paranoid Spice (kate), Friday, 14 October 2005 17:16 (twenty years ago)

OH MY GOD WHEN IS ULRICH SCHNAUSS PLAYING??

emsk ( emsk), Friday, 14 October 2005 17:23 (twenty years ago)

...thank god one of us finally spelled his name right...

angle of d... (tingo), Friday, 14 October 2005 18:59 (twenty years ago)

yes but WHEN IS HE PLAYING? i will actually BUY a ticket for this.

emsk ( emsk), Sunday, 16 October 2005 11:48 (twenty years ago)

BOLLOCKS. 21st. i am at v&c's wedding in cheshire that w/e :(

emsk ( emsk), Sunday, 16 October 2005 12:08 (twenty years ago)

Wow, what a weekend. I want to move to Kent. What an amazing boy - I want to pick his brain out of his head and leaf through it like the filing system to his secret typographical library.

Paranoid Spice (kate), Monday, 17 October 2005 06:51 (twenty years ago)

Oooh, you have to expand on a post like that!

Forest Pines (ForestPines), Monday, 17 October 2005 06:53 (twenty years ago)

No, but first I have to confess to some bad, bad badness. I bought Country Life yesterday (as I do every weekend, it's my little treat to mysel) and on about the tenth page, I found an advert where the house looked strangely familiar... squinted at it, and realised that it was Littletown - Joe's former family seat. On the market for £1.27 million.

First off, I hit the freaking roof - all the arguments about money we'd had, when he was nickel and diming me over household bills and *always* making me pay for half of dinner and things when I was unemployed. When he owned a 30% share (and I know this because I saw the documents when they were selling the house) in a £1.27 MILLION POUND MANSION. I was so angry I actually rang him (first time since 7/7) and left a nasty message on his ansaphone.

And then I calmed down, and thought about it, and realised that that "nice family" they'd sold the house to were probably actually propery developers - the house was sold privately, never went on the market - and I bet they were actually paid a fraction of what it was worth.

Anyway, I clearly hit a nerve because I had a furious email from Joe this morning. I couldn't actually be bothered to read the whole thing, and it was at that point I realised I didn't actually care beyond a sense of schadenfreude that that f*cking trustafarian had been cheated out of his inheritence by property developers.

Sorry, I just needed to spout that. The weird thing being Joe - or rather his family - came up in conversation with the Typographical Librarian Boy. First time I'd actually thought of the nice things about that relationship in a long time.

Paranoid Spice (kate), Monday, 17 October 2005 07:03 (twenty years ago)

It's fairly obvious I'm still carrying around a lot of anger about the relationship - but I guess what it means is, he's lost the ability to actually hurt me.

Paranoid Spice (kate), Monday, 17 October 2005 07:17 (twenty years ago)

Well, that's a good thing at least.

I still can't get over the dream I had about Mr Carlin last night

Forest Pines (ForestPines), Monday, 17 October 2005 07:23 (twenty years ago)

That was very strange indeed.

I've just found a picture of the Typographical Librarian on the interweb. (No, I'm not sharing it so don't ask.) I didn't stalk - he actually gave me his business card with his website and told me to go and look at it because I wanted to know about the Typographical Library. How can he be that brainy, and HOTT, too - in that sort of skinny, gangly, Sonic Boom all-nose-and-teeth-and-cheekbones-and-a-huge-shaggy-forelock-of-hair way?

And there I was moaning on Friday that my Cute Boy Radar was broken. It wasn't broken, it was just a long time since I met someone that made my BRAIN go "PING!!!" like that.

I'm sure he's gay or married or has a lovely girlfriend that he lives with and has babies with or something because he's just too amazing to be available.

Paranoid Spice (kate), Monday, 17 October 2005 07:29 (twenty years ago)

i feel like i've been frozen for a week or something. i've had no idea what's going on since lunchtime on friday.

g-kit (g-kit), Monday, 17 October 2005 07:29 (twenty years ago)

our watercoolers are out of order, as are our toilets, drinks machines, canteen etc. We've had a water mains burst down the road, which meant i didn't have any water at home either.

It was all down to a large fire at the weekend at the local distillery, I think the whole factory was destroyed.

So are they going to close this building and send us home? we shall see...

Ste (Fuzzy), Monday, 17 October 2005 07:32 (twenty years ago)

Blimey, a fire at a distillery? Did gin go everywhere like in the Gordon Riots? Excellent! Hopefully you will get sent home early.

Yo, G, lots has happened. Errr... sorry, my brain has been destroyed by thoughts of cute boy. What inconvenient timing.

Paranoid Spice (kate), Monday, 17 October 2005 07:36 (twenty years ago)

but you're happier this morning? that's all i need to hear.

g-kit (g-kit), Monday, 17 October 2005 07:38 (twenty years ago)

Yes, have discovered the solution to depression. Take a train into the country. Walk around in fields and look at cows and sheep and horses and dogs (we saw another Irish Wolfhound! he was massive and pony sized and very shy). Lie in the sunshine on a hill on the North Downs until the world seems like a good place. Go to pub and add friends and stir until slightly drunk and rambunctious.

Go home and find your horrible housemates are on holiday for a week and you have the house to yourself.

Depression lifted. Next stop mania.

Paranoid Spice (kate), Monday, 17 October 2005 07:40 (twenty years ago)

oh good.

back to work, then.

g-kit (g-kit), Monday, 17 October 2005 07:42 (twenty years ago)

nice one, i dare you to re-arrange all the furniture for when they return

Ste (Fuzzy), Monday, 17 October 2005 07:46 (twenty years ago)

Don't tempt me.

Paranoid Spice (kate), Monday, 17 October 2005 07:50 (twenty years ago)

Back at work... had Thurs and Fri off but didn't do anything productive. Saw Wallace and Gromit last night – but the least said about that, the better.

Walking through fog this morning was fun until I got that Monday-morning-have-I-done-my-homework? jolt.

Then I got to work and had 580-ish emails, most because I'd left my out-of-office reply on, and it had bounced back messages to myself over and over until the server shut down the account automatically.

beanz (beanz), Monday, 17 October 2005 08:07 (twenty years ago)

i worked on saturday and sunday, so there be no sympathy here (, arr).

g-kit (g-kit), Monday, 17 October 2005 08:29 (twenty years ago)

OK, I just emailed him. Eep. I assume that if a boy gives you his business card, he actually wants you to get in touch. I'm so bad at this sort of thing.

Paranoid Spice (kate), Monday, 17 October 2005 08:32 (twenty years ago)

GOING HOME!

i get to listen to my new boads of canada album, bye all.

Ste (Fuzzy), Monday, 17 October 2005 08:33 (twenty years ago)

Yay! have a good day off, Ste, even if you have no water.

Paranoid Spice (kate), Monday, 17 October 2005 08:34 (twenty years ago)

I think it's time for my first cup of coffee. He has not answered my email = he HAAAAAAAAAAATES me.

OK, I'm going to try to stop being neurotic about this now.

Paranoid Spice (kate), Monday, 17 October 2005 09:10 (twenty years ago)

Glad you're having more luck on the romance than me. I'm finally cured of my current crush (the horrible one I was chatting about upthread) and have decided to move on.

Q: If you were chatting with a guy by email, and getting on alright, and he asked you out for a drink, and you didn't reply AT ALL, what does that mean? I presume bad, but just HOW bad?

Come Back Johnny B (Johnney B), Monday, 17 October 2005 09:20 (twenty years ago)

How long has it been that she failed to reply? If it's a day or two she may still be just thinking about how she's going to fit it into her social schedule and may still reply when she comes up with a free space.

if it's gone on for a week either A) she didn't get the email (this does happen with Hardyesque consequences) or B) she thinks you're asking her for more than she's wanting?

Now come on, boys! Assuage my nerves and tell me a boy wouldn't give me his business card if he didn't want me to get in touch.

Paranoid Spice (kate), Monday, 17 October 2005 09:23 (twenty years ago)

Um, okay.

a boy wouldn't give me his business card if he didn't want me to get in touch.

Come Back Johnny B (Johnney B), Monday, 17 October 2005 09:24 (twenty years ago)

::glowers::

Paranoid Spice (kate), Monday, 17 October 2005 09:25 (twenty years ago)

Yes Kate, he does want you to get in touch. If he's got his own business, I would imagine he's a little busy on Monday mornings.

Come Back Johnny B (Johnney B), Monday, 17 October 2005 09:25 (twenty years ago)

No, it's not his business - he works for a small typographic agency and does the library stuff for his own interest, basically. So yeah, he's probably really busy. With his wife and his 2.5 children, no doubt. Sigh.

Paranoid Spice (kate), Monday, 17 October 2005 09:29 (twenty years ago)

People you fancy are always taken, until you realise they're not. You know this. BRANE IS BEST!

Come Back Johnny B (Johnney B), Monday, 17 October 2005 09:30 (twenty years ago)

> (this does happen with Hardyesque consequences)

"That's another fine mess you've gotten us into..."

it's only been an hour.

koogs (koogs), Monday, 17 October 2005 09:37 (twenty years ago)

Oh, and I nearly slept with a girl dressed as an Ewok on Friday but I backed out, and have been kicking myself since, for she was ubercute.

Come Back Johnny B (Johnney B), Monday, 17 October 2005 09:44 (twenty years ago)

x-x-x-post

It's been sooo long since I actually had this kind of immediate reaction to someone. I mean, what's happened is always kind of "Well, I do fancy him, but... he's too corporate/too young/too indie/takes too many drugs etc. etc." but this is the first time in years that I've met someone and felt no ifs ands or buts about it and just thought "get in!"

I didn't really notice him when we met up - we were in two groups because Emsk and I got held up and took a later train. And I was exhausted from climbing the North Downs and he was off arguing over whether a certain seed case belonged to a Beech or a Chestnut while I flopped down on the grass and retyed my boots. But he was being so *funny* on the walk down to the pub, and I just thought "Who *is* that?" And when we were sitting in the pub he was at the opposite end of the table and I was trying to explain the mathematical concepts behind Shimura Curves to the Swiss and when I said "it's like a hyperdimensional donut" his eyes just kind of lit up and he jumped in the conversation.

And every time I turned around for the rest of the walk, he'd be there talking about medieval church design or the fonts of 18th century graves or the fractal patterns behind leaf fronds of various tree or fern species and bird feathers or Edwardian architecture and OH BLIMEY, LOOK AT THAT VIEW and is that manor Jacobean or Georgian and time travel and typography and werewolves and steam engines and beam engines and canals and what's your favourite London train station (St.Pancras, duh) and did you know there was a secret river underneath Farringdon? (*he* brought it up! not me, for once!) And by the time we were on the train home and he started talking about working at a typographical library I was just staring at him open-mouthed thinking YOU ARE THE CLEVEREST BOY I HAVE EVER MET IN MY LIFE (and you look like Sonic Boom in wire-rimmed glasses)

...and I don't want it to turn into another crush, but I think it already is. So anyway, as he was leaving I just said "hey! you're great; come on more walks with us!" so he gave me his business card and told me to look up the typographical library if I was interested in it. (Which I certainly was.)

Paranoid Spice (kate), Monday, 17 October 2005 09:44 (twenty years ago)

I probably shouldn't have written all that, because ILX/the indie world is so small that probably at least one of you will be able to identify him from the description. But I was just so excited by the entire conversation.

Paranoid Spice (kate), Monday, 17 October 2005 09:48 (twenty years ago)

Fair play. So you send him an email and wait for a reply.

I mean wait for more than an hour.

Come Back Johnny B (Johnney B), Monday, 17 October 2005 09:49 (twenty years ago)

...in fact, chances are, he actually *lurks* on ILX and he will have read that and gone OH GOD THAT GIRL IS A MENTALIST so I should shut up now.

Paranoid Spice (kate), Monday, 17 October 2005 09:55 (twenty years ago)

Sounds exciting Kate! Exciting & horrible at the same time I guess!

x-post

Hey lurker guy, Kate rulz kthxbye!

Panther Pink (Pinkpanther), Monday, 17 October 2005 09:57 (twenty years ago)

The thing about you kate is that you very much wear your heart on your sleeve - if he didn't think you were a mentalist after hanging around with you all day, then you're in the clear.

Come Back Johnny B (Johnney B), Monday, 17 October 2005 09:58 (twenty years ago)

Errrr... :-(

Paranoid Spice (kate), Monday, 17 October 2005 10:00 (twenty years ago)

No?

Come Back Johnny B (Johnney B), Monday, 17 October 2005 10:02 (twenty years ago)

OKay then, if he was l;urking on ILX then he'd have read your posts before, in which case he'd have known you before you met him, hence again, he'd have already known your mentalistboundry.

Come Back Johnny B (Johnney B), Monday, 17 October 2005 10:09 (twenty years ago)

OKay then, if he was l;urking on ILX then he'd have read your posts before, in which case he'd have known you before you met him

...and would have been able to say things like "Hey, there's an underground river under Farringdon!" knowing you'd be interested ;-)

(sorry, I shouldn't encourage paranoia, I know. What Mr B said: if he *does* lurk here, you don't have to worry)

Forest Pines (ForestPines), Monday, 17 October 2005 10:12 (twenty years ago)

and and and and i know you from ILX only, and i was up for meeting you.

i'm back and i'm bored, yo.

g-kit (g-kit), Monday, 17 October 2005 10:12 (twenty years ago)

No, it's just the kind of confirmation that I *am* a mentalist in "That dress doesn't make you look fat, you *are* fat!" fashion. Sigh.

But then again, perhaps someday someone will actually *like me* for my mentalism and my habits of randomly going off on bizarre subjects like the River Fleet and the letter thorn and Victorian architects.
:-/

x-post actually you have a point. But I'm not going to get paranoid about it.

Paranoid Spice (kate), Monday, 17 October 2005 10:12 (twenty years ago)

i'm a mentalist, there's nothing wrong with it.

g-kit (g-kit), Monday, 17 October 2005 10:15 (twenty years ago)

haha kate awesome! i don't think he is on ilx. we did notice you two hitting it off rather well! and he is a reasonable age, too.

god london looks SO BEAUTIFUL in that fog. i want more! it's all evaporated now it's warmed up a bit, but this morning i thought i had accidentally stumbled into a giant lifesize filmset replica london.

emsk ( emsk), Monday, 17 October 2005 10:19 (twenty years ago)

and and and and and if i found somebody on a message board posting about how great & fun i am, er, i wouldn't be pissed off, i'd be like, flattered. people google themselves all the time, and it's not because they don't want any results, yknow?

g-kit (g-kit), Monday, 17 October 2005 10:22 (twenty years ago)

The colleague I'm crushing on spent most of the past hour sitting in my office crying. I was kind of at a loss as to what to say.

Forest Pines (ForestPines), Monday, 17 October 2005 10:26 (twenty years ago)

"get over it"?
"can't you do that in your own office?" ?

g-kit (g-kit), Monday, 17 October 2005 10:28 (twenty years ago)

Did you give them a cookie?

Come Back Johnny B (Johnney B), Monday, 17 October 2005 10:29 (twenty years ago)

Emsk, could you please do me a big favour and find out in a roundabout sort of way, if he is actually single/available before I tie myself in knots of crushdom?

I mean, I'm almost hoping that he is married with 2.5 children because now is the most inconvenient time to be developping a crush. And I'd rather just be happy to know that such boys *do* actually exist on the face of this earth.

Paranoid Spice (kate), Monday, 17 October 2005 10:31 (twenty years ago)

No. I tried to be supportive, but managed to just stand around looking awkward. She seemed to appreciate it, though.

(xpost)

Forest Pines (ForestPines), Monday, 17 October 2005 10:32 (twenty years ago)

(grr, I've just realised I forgot to bring the paper to work with me this morning)

Forest Pines (ForestPines), Monday, 17 October 2005 10:33 (twenty years ago)

dude, give her a real tissue so she doesn't get newsprint on her face.

g-kit (g-kit), Monday, 17 October 2005 10:35 (twenty years ago)

She's not here now - she's gone home for lunch. I offered to take her out for a coffee so she had company, but she said she'd rather not burst into tears in public.

Forest Pines (ForestPines), Monday, 17 October 2005 10:37 (twenty years ago)

Do you know what she's crying about - did she want to talk about it? or was it more a "I'm crying and can't explain" thing?

Paranoid Spice (kate), Monday, 17 October 2005 10:39 (twenty years ago)

kate, wheels are in motion. i did sorta get the impression that saturday was the most talkative he's been in a while... he's def not married. i s'll keep you posted.

emsk ( emsk), Monday, 17 October 2005 10:39 (twenty years ago)

...argh! And I just realised that I made an actual factual error in the email I sent him. I said that Hornbeam leaves were like Elms. Not really, they're more like Beeches. But kind of Elm-like, too. But then maybe he can write me back and correct me!

Wow, Emsk. :-)

Paranoid Spice (kate), Monday, 17 October 2005 10:42 (twenty years ago)

No, I know exactly what it's about - well, unless there are multiple other problems too, of course. It's a long story, though, and I probably shouldn't be retelling it.

Forest Pines (ForestPines), Monday, 17 October 2005 10:42 (twenty years ago)

Don't feel the need to retell, I wasn't being nosy. It's just one of those things where sometimes the best thing you can do is just be *there* and give quiet support. Listening is sometimes much better than even trying to advise.

Paranoid Spice (kate), Monday, 17 October 2005 10:44 (twenty years ago)

Well, I did my best. Which isn't very good compared to most people in that situation, but at least I was there and was as supportive as I could be. And I know she'd rather burst into tears in front of me than in front of the people she usually works with.

Forest Pines (ForestPines), Monday, 17 October 2005 10:48 (twenty years ago)

aw, i'm crap today.

g-kit (g-kit), Monday, 17 October 2005 10:48 (twenty years ago)

mm, threadkilla.

g-kit (g-kit), Monday, 17 October 2005 11:43 (twenty years ago)

Gal who I asked out and didn't reply just called and waved me from her driving instructors car on my way back from Tesco's, so she certainly doesn't dislike me. I've just emailed her again to make more smalltalk. I'll keep you in the loop.

Come Back Johnny B (Johnney B), Monday, 17 October 2005 11:53 (twenty years ago)

Well, she can hardly answer email from her (or her driving instructor's) car, now, can she?

It has now been several hours with no reply so ergo he HAAAAAATES me.

Paranoid Spice (kate), Monday, 17 October 2005 12:01 (twenty years ago)

maybe he's having a driving lesson. hmmmmm?

g-kit (g-kit), Monday, 17 October 2005 12:06 (twenty years ago)

i'm genius, me.

g-kit (g-kit), Monday, 17 October 2005 12:06 (twenty years ago)

You should give yourself a cookie for that

Forest Pines (ForestPines), Monday, 17 October 2005 12:13 (twenty years ago)

i am so great, i am so great, everybody loves me, i am so great!

g-kit (g-kit), Monday, 17 October 2005 12:14 (twenty years ago)

I'm going into post-lunch slump and suddenly thinking I was stupid for getting so excited. :-(

Paranoid Spice (kate), Monday, 17 October 2005 12:15 (twenty years ago)

Going through my own post lunch slump at the moment. Best summed up by three letters: zzz

Forest Pines (ForestPines), Monday, 17 October 2005 12:16 (twenty years ago)

If I can wait patiently to an email reply, then so can you.

Saying that, I reckon he hates you.

Come Back Johnny B (Johnney B), Monday, 17 October 2005 12:16 (twenty years ago)

i had a pre-lunch slump, don't ya know.

g-kit (g-kit), Monday, 17 October 2005 12:17 (twenty years ago)

Ooooh, she just emailed me back! I told her that I went clubbing dressed as Darth Vader, and she replied "Who's Darth Vader?" I think we're gonna get along just fine.

Come Back Johnny B (Johnney B), Monday, 17 October 2005 12:22 (twenty years ago)

...... the fuck?

g-kit (g-kit), Monday, 17 October 2005 12:23 (twenty years ago)

WHat? Lots of people don't know who Darth Vader is.

Come Back Johnny B (Johnney B), Monday, 17 October 2005 12:24 (twenty years ago)

How can you not know who Darth Vader is?

Anyway, omigod, I was just idly looking at property in Herne Hill and found THE MOST AMAZING FLAT - huge studio with a garden in a lovely Victorian pointy house right by Brockwell park - for £700 a month. I emailed the agent, but I imagine it's already gone.

Paranoid Spice (kate), Monday, 17 October 2005 12:26 (twenty years ago)

WHat? Lots of people don't know who Darth Vader is.

get real.
NAME FIVE.

g-kit (g-kit), Monday, 17 October 2005 12:26 (twenty years ago)

Lookit! Lookit!!! I wants it!

http://www.findaproperty.com/agent.aspx?agentid=1043&opt=prop&pid=311685

Paranoid Spice (kate), Monday, 17 October 2005 12:27 (twenty years ago)

that looks like my street.

g-kit (g-kit), Monday, 17 October 2005 12:28 (twenty years ago)

1. My dad
2. My mum
3. My Grandad
4. My Grandmum
5. This gal who I'm emailing.

Come Back Johnny B (Johnney B), Monday, 17 October 2005 12:30 (twenty years ago)

For some reason I was thinking Herne Hill would be more expensive than that. Hrmmm.

Honestly, not knowing who Darth Vader is, is like not knowing who Mickey Mouse is.

Paranoid Spice (kate), Monday, 17 October 2005 12:31 (twenty years ago)

omg kate that looks gorgeous. and what a cool name for a street!

emsk ( emsk), Monday, 17 October 2005 12:31 (twenty years ago)

That's actually not a rubbish flat. I keep forgetting how much places to live actually are - I've never paid more than £350pm, even when I was living on my own. I resent having to pay people for keeping dry when asleep and having somewhere to keep my stuff.

Come Back Johnny B (Johnney B), Monday, 17 October 2005 12:33 (twenty years ago)

It doesn't just have a garden, it has a SHED. Check it out. It looks a bit wild - think of the things I could do with it! No tub, but I'm not really bothered, I'd rather have a shower.

Thing is... getting a two bedroom looks like it's only a hundred more a month than a one-bedroom. Except I just don't want to live with anyone.

Paranoid Spice (kate), Monday, 17 October 2005 12:34 (twenty years ago)

If you don't like or have no interest in either sci-fi or over-rated kids films then you've got no reason to know who Darth Vader is. It's more akin to me not knowing any of the characters from Buffy.

Come Back Johnny B (Johnney B), Monday, 17 October 2005 12:36 (twenty years ago)

Would be way cheaper to stay in Streatham. You can get a studio for under £500 a month:

http://www.findaproperty.com/agent.aspx?agentid=1043&opt=prop&pid=032345

Paranoid Spice (kate), Monday, 17 October 2005 12:37 (twenty years ago)

...but you could make a studio in it... but hey you'd have a SHED for that!

emsk ( emsk), Monday, 17 October 2005 12:39 (twenty years ago)

TWO bedroom in Gipsy Hill/Crystal Palace for £700 a month. Blimey.

http://www.findaproperty.com/agent.aspx?agentid=1043&opt=prop&pid=061909

OK, these can't be for real. I need to go find this real estate agent next weekend.

Paranoid Spice (kate), Monday, 17 October 2005 12:40 (twenty years ago)

Do estate agents not answer their emails, either? Honestly! I knew I should have used my work email, that usually makes any estate agents jump to attention.

Paranoid Spice (kate), Monday, 17 October 2005 12:55 (twenty years ago)

I am feeling very impatient today.

Paranoid Spice (kate), Monday, 17 October 2005 12:58 (twenty years ago)

"today"

Come Back Johnny B (Johnney B), Monday, 17 October 2005 13:00 (twenty years ago)

sorry i'm not fun today. i can't be fun every day. today's my day off. k thx. normal service resumed tomorrow etc.

g-kit (g-kit), Monday, 17 October 2005 13:09 (twenty years ago)

i'd budget another 10% for council tax and 10-15 a month for each of gas, lecky, tv, phone and water. (and try to stagger payments - i always hate it when (half-yearly) water, and (quarterly) phone, gas and electric bills all arrive in the same fortnight)

koogs (koogs), Monday, 17 October 2005 13:13 (twenty years ago)

My "budget" is £800 a month so I think it would be alright, even if I got the £700 flat. I could save for my own flat a lot faster if I got a cheaper flat, though, so I probably should be thrifty.

Paranoid Spice (kate), Monday, 17 October 2005 13:16 (twenty years ago)

I hate myself right now for being such a posh cunt.

Paranoid Spice (kate), Monday, 17 October 2005 13:18 (twenty years ago)

"you.. are a big posh sod. with plums in your mouth."

g-kit (g-kit), Monday, 17 October 2005 13:20 (twenty years ago)

Does anyone want to move to Kent with me? Studios and one beds are unheardof, but two bedrooms are not much different price range from South London - at least around Sevenoaks (which is near where we were walking).

Paranoid Spice (kate), Monday, 17 October 2005 13:23 (twenty years ago)

Maybe I should start a new thread for all this. Though didn't I actually start one last time I had to move? "Pick Kate's New Flat" or something.

Paranoid Spice (kate), Monday, 17 October 2005 13:25 (twenty years ago)

Is Herne Hill haunted by Herne the Hunter?

(that's almost a tongue-twister)

Forest Pines (ForestPines), Monday, 17 October 2005 13:27 (twenty years ago)

Yes, and we talked about that on the other thread if only I could remember where it was...

Paranoid Spice (kate), Monday, 17 October 2005 13:28 (twenty years ago)

Okay, gal hasn't emailed back to me. I see what you mean by impatience.

Come Back Johnny B (Johnney B), Monday, 17 October 2005 13:29 (twenty years ago)

Clearly, he hates me, and she hates you.

I should just give up and accept that boys like that don't actually exist, and even if they did, they'd never be interested in me, and I will die alone and be eaten by my neighbour's Irish Wolfhound.

Paranoid Spice (kate), Monday, 17 October 2005 13:33 (twenty years ago)

quit it.
give them time, or i'll hax0r your mailboxes and send them both this thread where you bitch about their selfish, non-emailing ways. then i'll send myself email from your mailboxes, so i get some email. i never get any email! i don't even get spam. madness.

g-kit (g-kit), Monday, 17 October 2005 13:37 (twenty years ago)

OK, I never actually answer my own email so I don't know what I'm comlaining about. Bah.

Paranoid Spice (kate), Monday, 17 October 2005 13:40 (twenty years ago)

I haven't had the chance to post here much today, which means I hate you all. (for being sociable.)

beanz (beanz), Monday, 17 October 2005 13:41 (twenty years ago)

It's amazing how quickly the "wasn't interested in them anyway" defense mechanism kicks in.

Come Back Johnny B (Johnney B), Monday, 17 October 2005 13:43 (twenty years ago)

I don't get that defense mechanism. I get the "I'm rubbish anyway" mechanism.

Paranoid Spice (kate), Monday, 17 October 2005 13:43 (twenty years ago)

You should try the one I use. The initital taste is sweeter, even if it does leave a bitter after-taste.

Come Back Johnny B (Johnney B), Monday, 17 October 2005 13:45 (twenty years ago)

you should both email me, and i'll reply real speedy like, then everyone will be happy and we can talk about something else. like cookies.

g-kit (g-kit), Monday, 17 October 2005 13:45 (twenty years ago)

Every now and then I think about changing my career to become a typographer. Then I realise I'd spend about 3 per cent of my time actually designing letters and the rest of the time worrying about kerning pairs. Which I already do to an extent. So now I just buy books about typography on amazon and from magma, so I have a burgeoning library, at least.

beanz (beanz), Monday, 17 October 2005 13:56 (twenty years ago)

Designing fonts looks like the kind of thing that's both endlessly fascinating and excrutiatingly difficult. How you make a font that looks nice and is readable and doesn't look like all the other fonts out there, I have no idea. I guess it's that combination of the aesthetic and the utalitarian that fascinates me.

Come Back Johnny B (Johnney B), Monday, 17 October 2005 14:01 (twenty years ago)

I was forever doing this when I was an early teenager - but this was before the computerised revolution, and designing fonts now is a very different kettle of fish.

Paranoid Spice (kate), Monday, 17 October 2005 14:03 (twenty years ago)

See, this is what happens when i get a crush and why I don't want them any more. I build them up into too much of a THING and then I get too high expectations which are always dashed. Which just starts the whole cycle of disappointment and crashing self confidence leading to depression.

Paranoid Spice (kate), Monday, 17 October 2005 14:19 (twenty years ago)

Let the crush pass over you and through you, then turn the inner eye to see it's path. Where the crush has gone there will be nothing. Only I will remain.

Come Back Johnny B (Johnney B), Monday, 17 October 2005 14:23 (twenty years ago)

i wrote software on the ZX spectrum to help people design 8x8 bitmap fonts. does that count? everything came out looking the same though...

koogs (koogs), Monday, 17 October 2005 14:23 (twenty years ago)

Anyways, I'm off home. I've got to get my Darth Vader back to the costume shop, then I'm gonna order my ipod to make me happy.

See you laterz!

Come Back Johnny B (Johnney B), Monday, 17 October 2005 14:25 (twenty years ago)

Options for typographers:
1. "Revive" an old font and name it after a long-dead printer. I don't know if there are many left now.
2. Design something "wacky" that is, in fact, your 5-year-old child's handwriting or letters you peed in the snow.
3. Be a design genius and revolutionise the way we use letterforms. NB - you have to live in the 1920s to do this.
xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxpost

beanz (beanz), Monday, 17 October 2005 14:27 (twenty years ago)

1. "Revive" an old font and name it after a long-dead printer. I don't know if there are many left now.

Apparently, this is what lots of people go to the Typographical Museum to do!

Paranoid Spice (kate), Monday, 17 October 2005 14:37 (twenty years ago)

oh shit, i just accidentally ate 2/3 of a big bar of green & black's while concentrating on making a list. oops. must. hide. chocolate.

emsk ( emsk), Monday, 17 October 2005 14:40 (twenty years ago)

Grrr.

The last time I was talking to the crushed-on temp, trying to be supportive etc etc, the Office Gossip butted in and said "Go out and get drunk! You two should go out together!"

Which was bad enough - but then she clearly said something *else* to her whilst I wasn't there, because she (the Gossip) later took me to one side and said: "she told me she's not looking for a boyfriend - but I think you should still ask her out for a drink as friends". Grrrr.

(xpost: I actually wrote this half an hour ago - but before I could post it the temp appeared in my office again, so I've been spending most of the last half hour trying to think of new ways to say "don't cry, it'll all turn out for the best, you know". Which I *do* mean sincerely, but I'm not sure how to do it.)

Forest Pines (ForestPines), Monday, 17 October 2005 14:43 (twenty years ago)

I don't understand why you don't hit the office gossip BUSYBODY in the head with a brick. Honestly...

Paranoid Spice (kate), Monday, 17 October 2005 14:46 (twenty years ago)

Good plan.

(she fell down the office stairs last week. I was nowhere near her, I swear. I was on the roof at the time, and I have witnesses)

Forest Pines (ForestPines), Monday, 17 October 2005 14:50 (twenty years ago)

Hey is this typography museum in Lambeth or thereabouts? I've seen signs for it but never managed to follow them.

beanz (beanz), Monday, 17 October 2005 15:24 (twenty years ago)

No, it's near Blackfriars. I've seen the signs for the Type Museum in Lambeth (it's on my bus route, and they have nice type on the signs) but have never been.

Paranoid Spice (kate), Monday, 17 October 2005 15:25 (twenty years ago)

Ooh London's a two-type-museum city? Cool.

beanz (beanz), Monday, 17 October 2005 15:33 (twenty years ago)

Isn't one in Stockwell, or am I thinking of a different obscure tiny little museum?

Forest Pines (ForestPines), Monday, 17 October 2005 16:08 (twenty years ago)

FP, how you don't batter the Office Gossip is entirely beyond me. That's some saintlike patience right there. Plus, if the temp's just spent the entire morning crying, then it's a reasonable assumption that she's not currently in the mood for thinking about anything other than what's causing the waterworks, no?

Matt (Matt), Monday, 17 October 2005 17:28 (twenty years ago)

Actually, thinking back about it, the Gossip has said the "she told me she doesnt' want a BF" speech before, so it might be something she picked up a week or two ago.

The temp doesn't particularly like the gossip, and I warned her when she first started not to trust the gossip with anything.

Forest Pines (ForestPines), Monday, 17 October 2005 17:40 (twenty years ago)

Perhaps the Gossip has an Ulterior Motive

Matt (Matt), Monday, 17 October 2005 17:41 (twenty years ago)

Whoa you guys been chatting

Ste (Fuzzy), Monday, 17 October 2005 18:41 (twenty years ago)

A day later and no email. I think it's safe to assume it's not going to happen. :-(

Which is slightly annoying as I got a text message from Emsk saying that various people had been making enquiries (as the attraction had been noticed by other people in the walking parties) and he is very much single.

I mean, what else can I do? I think I've made my interest plain enough. If he can't be bothered answering email I can't be bothered chasing.

Paranoid Spice (kate), Tuesday, 18 October 2005 06:50 (twenty years ago)

well, i'm having a cookie at half ten, you're welcome to join me.

g-kit (g-kit), Tuesday, 18 October 2005 06:57 (twenty years ago)

Errr... I spoke too soon! Eep!

Paranoid Spice (kate), Tuesday, 18 October 2005 06:59 (twenty years ago)

you're still welcome...

g-kit (g-kit), Tuesday, 18 October 2005 07:00 (twenty years ago)

Go Kate!! Go Kate!!

Forest Pines (ForestPines), Tuesday, 18 October 2005 07:20 (twenty years ago)

Eep, eep, eep. I've forgotten how to *do* this. He wrote a short note, but he did ask my opinion on something so it requires a reply. Eep. Why did this have to turn into a *crush*? Because before I was quite happy to ramble on and on about any subject we were interested in, and now suddenly I feel all weird and inarticulate. Bah.

Paranoid Spice (kate), Tuesday, 18 October 2005 07:22 (twenty years ago)

he did ask my opinion on something so it requires a reply

To make sure you reply so that you can carry on the conversation! This is a GOOD thing!!

Forest Pines (ForestPines), Tuesday, 18 October 2005 07:23 (twenty years ago)

weird and inarticulate... hmm... WELCOME TO MY WORLD

g-kit (g-kit), Tuesday, 18 October 2005 07:25 (twenty years ago)

It's the Holmstrom Effect. You can be the most intelligent and articulate person in the world, but when in the presence of a Cute Boy - well, the boy's cuteness literally SUCKS THE THOUGHTS RIGHT OUT OF YOUR HEAD!!! And you are left stuttering and mumbling and letting rip fantastical brainfarts and I'm terrified that I will mistake Bodoni for Garamond or some stupid error like that and he will think I am a FULE and never speak to me again.

Paranoid Spice (kate), Tuesday, 18 October 2005 07:32 (twenty years ago)

no, you're missing the point. i'm like that all the time.

g-kit (g-kit), Tuesday, 18 October 2005 07:33 (twenty years ago)

...and ...and he does their website so he will SEE my IP address going in there and searching for silly things and how long I spend looking at his picture and things.

Paranoid Spice (kate), Tuesday, 18 October 2005 07:35 (twenty years ago)

So he'll be flattered. He probably wonders whether you like him too. He probably has his own crush on you and spent all yesterday wondering whether emailing you then was too soon, but he couldn't contain himself today and had to send you a line FIRST THING. And if you're feeling stammery, good thing it's email, no?

beanz (beanz), Tuesday, 18 October 2005 07:52 (twenty years ago)

see, beanz is good at this.
i'm just gonna cram my mouth full of cookie and nod and smile.

g-kit (g-kit), Tuesday, 18 October 2005 07:55 (twenty years ago)

Ah, Beanz, you are good at this kind of thing. However, I don't think that way. I think he's thinking "oh, god, that awful woman from the walk on Saturday won't leave me alone! Why did I give her my business card? I was just being polite."

Paranoid Spice (kate), Tuesday, 18 October 2005 08:04 (twenty years ago)

hey beanz, make me feel great, too!

g-kit (g-kit), Tuesday, 18 October 2005 08:06 (twenty years ago)

Then he wouldn't have emailed today - xpost
Hey G – only 15 mins till your scheduled cookie!
That was weak. See, I'm not so good...

beanz (beanz), Tuesday, 18 October 2005 08:16 (twenty years ago)

well, calling me G was a good start. don't be down on yourself!

cookie cookie cookie...

g-kit (g-kit), Tuesday, 18 October 2005 08:19 (twenty years ago)

It's coffee time for me. Err... cheer up, G! Think of your jaguar! Think of a CHOCOLATE CHIP JAGUAR!! A guitar made of cookies that you could eat! OK, it would get a bit messy to play it if the chocolate melted under stage lights, but still. If you got hungry during rehearsal, you could just take a bite.... Intonation off? Just eat a chunk of the bridge.

Paranoid Spice (kate), Tuesday, 18 October 2005 08:22 (twenty years ago)

holy smokes, that's an awesome mental image!

g-kit (g-kit), Tuesday, 18 October 2005 08:26 (twenty years ago)

Damn, someone beat me to it:

http://thegourmetgiftshop.com/prodimages/guitar.jpg

http://thegourmetgiftshop.com/products.php?cat=44

Paranoid Spice (kate), Tuesday, 18 October 2005 08:31 (twenty years ago)

Dammit I was gonna post that.... but anyway that's all chocolate and no biscuit. The one on the right looks... ROCK.

beanz (beanz), Tuesday, 18 October 2005 08:39 (twenty years ago)

Urgh I feel like shit. I need a coffee. And a shower. And to be someone else completely.

tissp! (the impossible shortest specia), Tuesday, 18 October 2005 09:15 (twenty years ago)

sounds rough

Ste (Fuzzy), Tuesday, 18 October 2005 09:17 (twenty years ago)

Blimey - what's the matter, TISSP? hangover? Or something worse?

Paranoid Spice (kate), Tuesday, 18 October 2005 09:21 (twenty years ago)

Both. And things are getting even worse as the day goes on.

tissp! (the impossible shortest specia), Tuesday, 18 October 2005 09:53 (twenty years ago)

Oh, I'm sorry. Have a cookie?

I've been so freaking busy today I haven't had a chance to answer the TGL's email. Bah. Is it lunchtime yet?

Paranoid Spice (kate), Tuesday, 18 October 2005 09:56 (twenty years ago)

So nearly lunchtime. What's everyone's plans for lunch?
Hope things improve rapidly, tissp

beanz (beanz), Tuesday, 18 October 2005 10:02 (twenty years ago)

Cheers everyone. I need less emotional paranoia in my life.

tissp! (the impossible shortest specia), Tuesday, 18 October 2005 10:04 (twenty years ago)

Emotional paranoia? See above.

(Wouldn't it be funny if TGL was sitting in his office biting his nails going "she hasn't replied! I wonder if she HAAAAAATES my website?" but somehow I doubt it.)

Paranoid Spice (kate), Tuesday, 18 October 2005 10:08 (twenty years ago)

i can't figure out what TGL stands for.

g-kit (g-kit), Tuesday, 18 October 2005 10:10 (twenty years ago)

Typographical, Geeky Lover
?

Forest Pines (ForestPines), Tuesday, 18 October 2005 10:14 (twenty years ago)

Typo Graphical Librarian.

OK, I know that should be only two letters, but didn't want to break tradition.

Paranoid Spice (kate), Tuesday, 18 October 2005 10:14 (twenty years ago)

(n.b. he is not actually a librarian, he just volunteers at the typographical library - I think he does their website. I just think that Librarian is such a sexxy occupation that I like calling him that.)

Paranoid Spice (kate), Tuesday, 18 October 2005 10:18 (twenty years ago)

Oh, god, I'm fat. :-(

Emsk just sent me the photos that were taken on the walk, and I just look like a massive fat cow, bah, how depressing. However, it is quite hilarious that the two photos I'm in, in one it looks like I'm grabbing TGL's thigh and in the other it looks like he's grabbing my face. (Neither of which is actually happening - in one I'm eating some chocolate, while he is attempting to read the map. In the other, he is showing me some interesting wormholes in the trunk of a hollow tree.)

Maybe I should just put one on the WDYLL thread but I think I might feel uncomfortable with that as only two of us are ILX0rs.

Paranoid Spice (kate), Tuesday, 18 October 2005 10:52 (twenty years ago)

Can't you crop everyone else out?

Forest Pines (ForestPines), Tuesday, 18 October 2005 10:53 (twenty years ago)

Or, blur their faces, criminal-style.

Forest Pines (ForestPines), Tuesday, 18 October 2005 10:56 (twenty years ago)

Then that would be WAAAYYY too obvious! x-post

Paranoid Spice (kate), Tuesday, 18 October 2005 10:58 (twenty years ago)

i posted a WTFDYLL picture with somebody else in it, and i gave them one of those big black bars over the eyes thingies what criminals get.

g-kit (g-kit), Tuesday, 18 October 2005 11:01 (twenty years ago)

Argh, my backache seems to be getting worse. I woke up really stiff last night, like I'd been lifting weights in my sleep. I'm not sure if it's because I slept wrong last night, or if it was yesterday's nightmare commute and all the straphanging. ugh.

Boring lunch again. I always forget I don't really like the olive flavoured hummous.

Paranoid Spice (kate), Tuesday, 18 October 2005 11:27 (twenty years ago)

I had avocado, mozzarella and tomato toasted ciabatta because I am a ponce. It was Good.

The thing that has helped my backaches most has been hanging backwards over the edge of the bed, with my arms hanging down, and progressively inching myself further back so my spine kinda realigns. Give it a try? (NB it's easy to fall off the bed this way.)

beanz (beanz), Tuesday, 18 October 2005 11:50 (twenty years ago)

It's my upper back/shoulders which doesn't tend to respond to that kind of thing. :-( I've just been doing lots of arm swinging and stretching today.

(I am surprised that I am not in more pain after the walk at the weekend - my knees have been creaky but other than that, fine. But then again, I made sure that I stretched after the really steep hills. Looking at the pictures, I'm actually quite impressed I made it up some of them!)

Paranoid Spice (kate), Tuesday, 18 October 2005 11:52 (twenty years ago)

If it's upper back and shoulders, you clearly need a massage. Flirt more with TGL to expedite.

beanz (beanz), Tuesday, 18 October 2005 12:12 (twenty years ago)

I still haven't even written that email - so imagine how tongue tied I'd be asking for a massage! Anyway, I don't like getting massages - or rather - backrubs. They tend to make me more tense.

Paranoid Spice (kate), Tuesday, 18 October 2005 12:16 (twenty years ago)

gah. another company day-out that i want nothing to do with.

"Attendance is not entirely compulsary, but it is a requirement if you want paying this month."

yeah, right.

koogs (koogs), Tuesday, 18 October 2005 12:51 (twenty years ago)

we have one on thursday too.

"you are 'INVITED' to attend blah blah.."

which means it's compulsory.

Ste (Fuzzy), Tuesday, 18 October 2005 12:54 (twenty years ago)

Bah. What will they be making you do?

They're trying to round everyone up to go to lunch on Thursday. not required, thank god, but still. Not something I really want to do.

Paranoid Spice (kate), Tuesday, 18 October 2005 12:54 (twenty years ago)

that's the thing, they don't say... i have told them i've booked the day as holiday even though they haven't quite finalised what day it's going to be yet. hopefully they'll get the hint.

koogs (koogs), Tuesday, 18 October 2005 13:30 (twenty years ago)

God, my computer just crashed, and when I logged back on, it seems to have forgotten who I am. My personal settings in my mail, my bookmarks, my login to the database I'm supposed to be administering... GONE. Argh.

Paranoid Spice (kate), Tuesday, 18 October 2005 13:56 (twenty years ago)

oh dear. you're not sandra bullock are you?

Ste (Fuzzy), Tuesday, 18 October 2005 14:16 (twenty years ago)

I managed to fix it. And now I'm trying to respond to TGL's email and trying hard not to ramble but thinking of questions to ask him to get him to respond that don't seem obviously like I AM TRYING TO GET YOU TO WRITE BACK.

Paranoid Spice (kate), Tuesday, 18 October 2005 14:18 (twenty years ago)

er... might be a dumbass question, but.. why don't you want him to think you want him to write back?

g-kit (g-kit), Tuesday, 18 October 2005 14:21 (twenty years ago)

"what's your favourite colour?"

Ste (Fuzzy), Tuesday, 18 October 2005 14:22 (twenty years ago)

I don't want it to be all OBVIOUS - I just want the conversation to flow naturally. I can be quite pestery in emails when I like someone to the point where they think I'm giving them an exam. "WHO'S YOUR FAVOURITE ARCHITECT? WHAT'S YOUR FAVOURITE NOVEL/MOVIE/COMPOSER? WHAT IS YOUR DREAM HOLIDAY? WHO DO YOU THINK IS REALLY IN CHARGE, THE FREEMASONS, THE ILLUMINATI OR THE TRILATERAL COMMISSION?!?!?" etc.

Plus, he might not be able to write much at work. His email was a bit... formal. I don't know. Anyway, it's sent now and back to biting my nails to see if he replies.

Paranoid Spice (kate), Tuesday, 18 October 2005 14:26 (twenty years ago)

i always think it's best to be yourself in these situations. i went into one on some other thread about it a long time ago. i'd just say what i wanted to say, and if they can't deal with it, boomziphia (i just made that word up).

g-kit (g-kit), Tuesday, 18 October 2005 14:30 (twenty years ago)

Yes, but which self to be?

I think it's probably good, because he saw me in as close to my natural environment as possible (in the country, rambling about, rambling on about architecture and the Dutch Rhubarb Wars and things) but still. I do ramble on about endless crap.

Paranoid Spice (kate), Tuesday, 18 October 2005 14:33 (twenty years ago)

what i mean is, go ahead, ramble on about endless crap. then he'll know that you ramble on about endless crap. if you just censor yourself to appear as cool as possible or whatever, eventually you'll ramble and you won't be like a well-censored email, and he'll be like "meh?"
anyway, 'rambling about endless crap' might be something he finds adorable and over-critical self-censorship might be a pet-hate, in which case you're shooting yourself in the foot.

but what do i know?

g-kit (g-kit), Tuesday, 18 October 2005 14:36 (twenty years ago)

Well, I can only hope. I'm sick of trying to impress boys. I'll just be myself, as much as I can. Well, apart from the neuroticism. I'll try to keep that in check. If he doesn't like the rambling and the calling him a "sans serif kind of a boy" as an attempt at flirting then he wouldn't like me anyway.

Paranoid Spice (kate), Tuesday, 18 October 2005 14:48 (twenty years ago)

holy shit, someone took my advice.

sucker.

g-kit (g-kit), Tuesday, 18 October 2005 14:50 (twenty years ago)

Well, also, it was kind of going along with something that Dan was saying a few weeks ago. I feel all prickly and nervous now, like the butterflies in my stomach have attained supersonic transit and little sonic booms are going on in there. Or maybe that's my lunch. This is the best/worst part of a crush.

Paranoid Spice (kate), Tuesday, 18 October 2005 14:53 (twenty years ago)

I think being yourself, though a truism, is definitely the way to go. I should imagine he's looking forward to your email.

Matt (Matt), Tuesday, 18 October 2005 15:26 (twenty years ago)

I was gonna go all "waaaaahhh, I doubt it!" but then decided to be confident and go "I hope so".

Paranoid Spice (kate), Tuesday, 18 October 2005 15:29 (twenty years ago)

No - ARGH! - now I'm thinking that his email was way *too* formal and businesslike and now I'm just going to go home and try hard not to think about it too much. Why don't I come with an off switch? Bah.

Paranoid Spice (kate), Tuesday, 18 October 2005 16:04 (twenty years ago)

He probably had a huge pile of emails to get through first thing, and wanted to get in touch but didn't really have the time, or something.
I'm going home too.

beanz (beanz), Tuesday, 18 October 2005 16:09 (twenty years ago)

Morning. Time for the first cup of tea of the day.

So yesterday, the nice temp's supervisor's manager saw me talking to the temp in the kitchen, and told me off for "pestering" her staff.

This particular manager already doesn't like me very much, because she thinks that I should be a doorman. The story is: I'm usually first into work in the morning, so for a while in the morning I'm alone in the building. However, I can't hear the doorbell from my desk, so if people without keys turn up they can't get in unless they phone me to tell me they're stood at the door, or walk all the way around the building to bang on the back door, which opens into my current office. This manager I'm talking about likes her staff to come in half an hour or more early - without pay - as often as possible. However, she won't give them keys, and they're too stupid to think of phoning me and too lazy to walk round. Therefore, regularly, they've been left standing on the doorstep for ten or fifteen minutes until someone with either keys or intelligence appears. Their manager is Not Happy with me about this, and has told my boss that I should go and sit in a different office when I'm alone in the building. My boss's own reaction was "bollocks", but it does make me slightly unpopular with the management in the temp's office.

Forest Pines (ForestPines), Wednesday, 19 October 2005 06:40 (twenty years ago)

(that could equally be on the stupid, annoying coworkers thread, I guess)

Forest Pines (ForestPines), Wednesday, 19 October 2005 06:41 (twenty years ago)

The solution to this is not to come in so early in the morning. Doorman is not part of your job description. Why should you move offices? It is actually your boss's responsibility to define your role(s) - it's a bad boss that doesn't go to bat for their staff.

(This is one way in which I'm extremely lucky.)

Paranoid Spice (kate), Wednesday, 19 October 2005 06:43 (twenty years ago)

with the exception of a single url with no other content, i haven't received an email since 4th October. waaah.

g-kit (g-kit), Wednesday, 19 October 2005 06:47 (twenty years ago)

but but but i have band practice tonight, so all is good.

i can smell glue.

g-kit (g-kit), Wednesday, 19 October 2005 06:48 (twenty years ago)

My boss *has* defined my role - the full sentence was "bollocks, you're not a doorman - if she wants them to come in early she should talk to [the building manager]. Ignore her."

Forest Pines (ForestPines), Wednesday, 19 October 2005 06:49 (twenty years ago)

I have band practise tonight, too! Errr... at least, I think I do. NOne of my bandmates have confirmed. Which always makes me worry.

Paranoid Spice (kate), Wednesday, 19 October 2005 06:51 (twenty years ago)

that's cos i poached them all.

g-kit (g-kit), Wednesday, 19 October 2005 07:01 (twenty years ago)

Poach them? They're neither eggs nor pheasants.

No email this morning. :-( Though I did get an email from his brother.

Paranoid Spice (kate), Wednesday, 19 October 2005 07:16 (twenty years ago)

Alan Rankine of the Associates played a chocolate guitar on TOTP once, dinnee?

The Vintner's Lipogram (OleM), Wednesday, 19 October 2005 07:18 (twenty years ago)

sounds messy

g-kit (g-kit), Wednesday, 19 October 2005 07:19 (twenty years ago)

In fact, this whole morning is one long frustration of not getting emails I'm expecting. From boy(s), from bandmates, from work colleagues. Sigh. Grrr, argh, etc.

Paranoid Spice (kate), Wednesday, 19 October 2005 07:33 (twenty years ago)

I got a copy of Birds Britannica this morning! It's not so much a bird guise, more like a social and folk history of British Birds, species by species. I'm thinking of reviving the thread I started about the Dunnock so's I can let you all in on its filthy reproductive habits.

FP WTF? Is your building populated almost entirely by numpties?

Matt (Matt), Wednesday, 19 October 2005 07:34 (twenty years ago)

Good morning

I haven't heard 'numpty' since I lived in Edinburgh

beanz (beanz), Wednesday, 19 October 2005 07:36 (twenty years ago)

A social and folk history of bird species? You mean, of the interactions of birds in human folklore? Because if birds have their own folklaw and social history that would be quite incredible. ;-)

Paranoid Spice (kate), Wednesday, 19 October 2005 07:36 (twenty years ago)

Happy to say it wasn't directed at me xpost

beanz (beanz), Wednesday, 19 October 2005 07:37 (twenty years ago)

FP WTF? Is your building populated almost entirely by numpties?

Oddly enough, yes!

Forest Pines (ForestPines), Wednesday, 19 October 2005 07:39 (twenty years ago)

Kate you know fine well what I meant:) Actually, when I got it one thought which crossed my mind was that it might be the sort of thing that you might be interested in.

Matt (Matt), Wednesday, 19 October 2005 07:45 (twenty years ago)

I wasn't taking the piss, I thought it would be really interesting! I mean, birds are social animals, aren't they? Birdsong changes locally, so perhaps bird folklaw (that is a hard word to type) is the variations in local birdcalls. Looks like Rumpie has started a thread... woo!

Paranoid Spice (kate), Wednesday, 19 October 2005 07:46 (twenty years ago)

can anyone explain the noize board to me?
i've never understood this.

g-kit (g-kit), Wednesday, 19 October 2005 07:56 (twenty years ago)

Don't bother.

Paranoid Spice (kate), Wednesday, 19 October 2005 07:57 (twenty years ago)

It's um.....no, I don't get it.

Matt (Matt), Wednesday, 19 October 2005 07:58 (twenty years ago)

any advance on that?

g-kit (g-kit), Wednesday, 19 October 2005 08:01 (twenty years ago)

you have to be NOIZE to understand the NOIZE board. no, me neither.

koogs (koogs), Wednesday, 19 October 2005 08:04 (twenty years ago)

Birdwatching. I'm contributing to a thread about birdwatching. God, I cannot escape my destiny, can I?

Paranoid Spice (kate), Wednesday, 19 October 2005 08:04 (twenty years ago)

just go there and hang out for a bit, learn the culture y'know?

Matt (Matt), Wednesday, 19 October 2005 08:04 (twenty years ago)

it looks a bit scary tbh.

no, Kate. you must face Darth Vadar again.
xpost

g-kit (g-kit), Wednesday, 19 October 2005 08:05 (twenty years ago)

What are you talking about? Birdwatching culture? I'm scared of it! I prefer Batwatching culture!

Middle aged and middle class. Sigh. I didn't even wear my tweed jacket today.

Paranoid Spice (kate), Wednesday, 19 October 2005 08:07 (twenty years ago)

whoops, that was to g-kit, sorry

what's middle aged about bird-watching? birds are great.

Matt (Matt), Wednesday, 19 October 2005 08:08 (twenty years ago)

nono, confusion! noize board looks scary. birdwatching doesn't.
meh.

g-kit (g-kit), Wednesday, 19 October 2005 08:10 (twenty years ago)

I know birds are great. I just have this overwhelming feeling that I'm turning into a bit of a cliche. Maps and birdwatching and rambling and Victorian architecture etc. I need to get some more rock'n'roll outside interests. Except rock'n'roll bores me and I prefer maps and nature and linguistics and typography and architecture. Sigh.

Paranoid Spice (kate), Wednesday, 19 October 2005 08:11 (twenty years ago)

But those are ALL GOOD THINGS! There is nothing to stop you enjoying them and STILL BEING ROCK.

Matt (Matt), Wednesday, 19 October 2005 08:13 (twenty years ago)

you're worried that you're turning into a cliche?

two words:
jaguar jaguar jaguar jaguar jaguar jaguar jaguar jaguar jaguar cookie cookie cookie cookie cookie cookie cookie cookie cookie cookie cookie
etc

g-kit (g-kit), Wednesday, 19 October 2005 08:16 (twenty years ago)

I know. I am just experiencing TERRIBLE SELF DOUBT today.

x-post

Paranoid Spice (kate), Wednesday, 19 October 2005 08:17 (twenty years ago)

That's nuts

beanz (beanz), Wednesday, 19 October 2005 08:20 (twenty years ago)

cookie time

g-kit (g-kit), Wednesday, 19 October 2005 08:37 (twenty years ago)

Is the opening sentence of this thread a play on the old "you don't have to be crazy to work here..." thingummy?

rainy (rainy), Wednesday, 19 October 2005 08:39 (twenty years ago)

Hi, Rainy!

Ha ha, only subconsciously, but yes, definitely. :-)

Paranoid Spice (kate), Wednesday, 19 October 2005 08:41 (twenty years ago)

Hi Kate! What's for elevenses?

rainy (rainy), Wednesday, 19 October 2005 08:42 (twenty years ago)

Same as it always is - chococcino. And self doubt. And a small bout of smashing my stresspig against my skull. I wish I had a cookie like G, but after seeing the photos of me in Kent, no more cookies for me.

How are you, chick?

Paranoid Spice (kate), Wednesday, 19 October 2005 08:43 (twenty years ago)

News just in: my manager just came down to tell me that the manager mentioned above has put in an official complaint about me "harassing" her staff - ie, talking to the nice temp. Aaargh.

Forest Pines (ForestPines), Wednesday, 19 October 2005 08:46 (twenty years ago)

Blimey, FP. I mean, TBH, this is why I never approach people at work. But still, sounds like you're being caught up in office politics there.

Paranoid Spice (kate), Wednesday, 19 October 2005 08:47 (twenty years ago)

xpost.

I'm great, thanks! I had a nice day off today. Did some house work, took my friend to the Duke of Wellington for a fancy French beer, went to the post office, you know...

rainy (rainy), Wednesday, 19 October 2005 08:47 (twenty years ago)

jesus FP!

Ste (Fuzzy), Wednesday, 19 October 2005 08:48 (twenty years ago)

god, how awful. i hope it can be resolved quickly.

rainy (rainy), Wednesday, 19 October 2005 08:51 (twenty years ago)

with a gun.

g-kit (g-kit), Wednesday, 19 October 2005 08:52 (twenty years ago)

Should I mention this to the temp or not, when I see her? I mean, I don't *think* the complaint is anything to do with her. She's said that she likes talking to me.

The temp has to spend about an hour a day, on average, in my office. We talk. On Monday, when she was upset and crying, I stood with her in the hope that it would comfort her a little. Her manager heard that she was upset, came down to see what was wrong, and saw me doing that. Now, the specific part of the complaint I've been told about is that I look over the temp's shoulder when she's working in here.

Forest Pines (ForestPines), Wednesday, 19 October 2005 08:53 (twenty years ago)

Yikes FP, this is bizarre.

I look over the temp's shoulder when she's working in here.

???????????????????? oddly specific, sounds like clutching at straws

Matt (Matt), Wednesday, 19 October 2005 08:59 (twenty years ago)

why was she upset at work?

rainy (rainy), Wednesday, 19 October 2005 09:02 (twenty years ago)

It wasn't anything here-related: she'd failed the entrance interview for a postgrad course.

Forest Pines (ForestPines), Wednesday, 19 October 2005 09:08 (twenty years ago)

multi-xpost to kate:

Maps and birdwatching and rambling[...] and nature and linguistics and typography and architecture

and maths and myths and words and music and seemingly every interest known to humans that isn't sports? If that counts for bothersome clichédness then god help us.

The Vintner's Lipogram (OleM), Wednesday, 19 October 2005 09:11 (twenty years ago)

x-post This all sounds so weird, but unfortunately not unfamiliar. I have come to the conclusion that some people in management positions get there because they are slightly psychotic.

rainy (rainy), Wednesday, 19 October 2005 09:12 (twenty years ago)

Speaking as an ex-manager, it does tend to send you a bit mad.

Matt (Matt), Wednesday, 19 October 2005 09:13 (twenty years ago)

Maybe I should be more of a cliche. Then I would fit into people's boxes better. :-(

Ignore me; having a crush on/interest in someone always opens a trapdoor of self loathing and doubt beneath my feet and drops me through it. I need to be reprogrammed because I *never* think "Oh, maybe he hasn't replied because he's busy/shy/etc." I *always* think "he hasn't replied because he's not interested in me, and why would anyone be interested in me, because I am so bloody rubbish?"

Anyway, I'm slightly disappointed that the bird thread didn't take off. Ha ha, I made a punny.

Paranoid Spice (kate), Wednesday, 19 October 2005 09:16 (twenty years ago)

Maybe this is what CBT will be about. I hope.

Usually, if I don't reply to an email, it's because I'm too busy, or think that the email needs a longer reply than I have time for at that point, and then sometimes I just forget. Rarely because I haaaaaaate the person. Except in very specific cases.

However, I do get f*cked off about colleagues and the like, when I have asked a specific question, not to get a response.

Paranoid Spice (kate), Wednesday, 19 October 2005 09:30 (twenty years ago)

FP that's horrible but sounds like you don't have much to worry about. Make sure your boss is with you when you have any meetings about it etc!

beanz (beanz), Wednesday, 19 October 2005 09:30 (twenty years ago)

Heading out for lunch, I bumped into the temp, so I asked her how she was. It turns out that:

a) she is worried that I've been pressuring her a bit, because she's had lots of bad experiences like that in the past.
b) but she still likes me, she just thinks I'm trying to get to know her a bit fast
c) she isn't going to start avoiding me around the office or anything.

More importantly:
d) her manager did take her to one side and say "has FP been harassing you? tell me if he does anything and i'll sort it out"
e) she specifically told her manager that i *wasn't*, but the manager went and told my boss that I had been anyway.

I wish I didn't have to deal with all this shit. Not feeling hungry, I drove down to the beach, and sat on the undeveloped part of the beach wishing that I could at least burst into tears, because maybe at least that would be a little bit cathartic and help close up the horrible hole I've got in my chest. I *know* I'm never going to be in a relationship again ever, I just wish I could be happy in the rest of my life and stop being a complete, complete fuckup.

Forest Pines (ForestPines), Wednesday, 19 October 2005 10:57 (twenty years ago)

"he hasn't replied because he's not interested in me, and why would anyone be interested in me, because I am so bloody rubbish?"

Kate, I relate entirely, and I'm glad you don't not-reply to emails deliberately. I spilled my guts to someone in an email a little while ago: granted, it was disgraceful and as attractive as the metpahor, but I was left wondering if it had even been delivered.

Not sure if I can make the Plan B night now, there's 2 leaving drinks for colleagues I feel obliged to go to, but I'm gonna come if I possibly can.

angle of d... (tingo), Wednesday, 19 October 2005 11:09 (twenty years ago)

hmm... metaphor.

angle of d... (tingo), Wednesday, 19 October 2005 11:12 (twenty years ago)

Forest, you okay dude?

Ste (Fuzzy), Wednesday, 19 October 2005 11:20 (twenty years ago)

i'm running out of things to do to my jag now, arrr. i want more mods! more! i want a frankenstein's jaguar!

Haha, g-kit, I know this is from way upthread, but... I'm carving a big hole in the body of my midified Jag copy so I can build a TB-303 into it. That way I can wibble the knobs while the guitar synth does arpeggios...

angle of d... (tingo), Wednesday, 19 October 2005 11:20 (twenty years ago)

I will be, in a while, hopefully. If plenty of work things come up to distract me then my mood should pass.

Forest Pines (ForestPines), Wednesday, 19 October 2005 11:24 (twenty years ago)

Sorry Forest, I didn't mean to talk over what's obviously veery tough times for you. Don't re-inforce your negative impulses if you possibly can, hero. Try and reduce the volume of that bad inner voice. Things will be okay if you can just do that bit by bit. Honestly.

angle of d... (tingo), Wednesday, 19 October 2005 11:30 (twenty years ago)

i'm not gonna be doing anything quite that drastic... maybe a spoiler and some wings.

g-kit (g-kit), Wednesday, 19 October 2005 11:32 (twenty years ago)

Don't worry angle, I feel bad enough about venting all this crap all over everyone else's thread too.

Don't worry about me anyway, because I'm not strong enough to do anything to harm myself. I wish I could be, but I'll always chicken it.

Forest Pines (ForestPines), Wednesday, 19 October 2005 11:37 (twenty years ago)

Argh, I started typing something but got called away to a fire drill.

Hey, FP - I mean, it sucks about the job stuff, but it does sound like office politics and the thing to do with that is to just deflect it to *your* boss.

WRT the cute temp - I mean, it sounds quite positive TBH. I mean, she's said that she likes you - but she said the same thing I was trying to say above - i.e. slow down! Don't try to rush things or force things. I know it's hard to relax when you like someone (heck, I can't do it myself) but go slowly and let things happen naturally. If you try to force something, sometimes you can break it.

And now I will do my utmost to try and follow my own advice.

Paranoid Spice (kate), Wednesday, 19 October 2005 11:58 (twenty years ago)

Thanks Kate - I'm more stuck on "she thinks I'm a creepy stalker" at the moment.

I'm convinced it's hopeless thinking I might manage a full-blown relationship ever again, but I thought I might at least be able to make friends. Clearly, I can't, without doing something monumentally stupid to fuck things up. There goes my last chance at getting some kind of social life.

Forest Pines (ForestPines), Wednesday, 19 October 2005 12:03 (twenty years ago)

Kate's reading of the situation strikes me as entirely correct. It seems more like this manager has a beef with you for some reason, and that's what your manager is for. Cute Temp is being reasonable and encouraging.

Matt (Matt), Wednesday, 19 October 2005 12:07 (twenty years ago)

FP this is the temp's manager's fuck up, not yours. You're just being friendly. And clearly the temp feels ok enough with the situation to be able to handle it by talking to you now, and she wouldn't even have felt the need to say anything if the manager hadn't gone wacko. And it sounds like she'll be able to clear up the problem by talking to whomever it is that investigates complaints. If she thought you were a creepy stalker, she'd have said 'yes' when her manager asked, not 'no'. From what you say, you should be feeling better, not worse.

Everyone thinks they'll never be in a relationship again when they aren't in one.

beanz (beanz), Wednesday, 19 October 2005 12:08 (twenty years ago)

OK, this is the one nice thing about TGL boy is it did kind of snap me out of thinking "boo hoo, I'll never be in a relationship again!" - especially because it came so close to a Joe argument. It suddenly made me think "Actually, I might well be in a relationship again if I meet the *right* person. The relationship with Joe didn't work because Joe was an utter c*nt. Not because I'm incapable of being in a relationship."

(Though persuading the Right Kind Of Person For Me that I am the Right Person For Them is a different story.)

Paranoid Spice (kate), Wednesday, 19 October 2005 12:15 (twenty years ago)

I'm assuming the manager has two beefs with me already. One - me not letting her staff in - I described a short way upthread. The other is a general feeling she seems to have, that *her staff* are the only people who work hard and earn the company money, and that the IT department in particular are a pair of shifty layabouts.

(we *do* take plenty of breaks when we can. That's because our most important role is support, and emergency support when necessary. And when it *is* necessary, we have easily the most stressful position in the company. We know that from experience.)

As I said above, she usually expects her staff - apart from the ones with young children - to do four or five hours of unpaid overtime per week; she also spends her life in a constant panic. You'd think that that arm of the company is constantly on the brink of disaster.

xpost: I'm not sure how formal the complaint is. My manager said: "be careful, because if she takes it further I don't want to be forced to kick your arse." The temp said she would talk to her manager, but I tried to persuade her not to, on the grounds that it would be better for now if she didn't know I'd been talking to the temp about it. She (the temp, I mean) did say that if it did go further, then she would definitely tell anyone who asked that she didn't have any problems with my behaviour.

It was me who brought it up with the temp, incidentally.

Next week will be the second anniversary of my last breakup. I've never had casual sex. I've never even kissed anybody I haven't been in a relationship with. I'm just a complete emotional fuckup who has *no idea* how to even get along with people.

Forest Pines (ForestPines), Wednesday, 19 October 2005 12:17 (twenty years ago)

IF we ever met, I'm sure we'd get on fine.

I was alluding to what you wrote upthread. It seems like this manager is of the breed that throws shit at other departments to deflect attention away from their own. I'd just sit tight and keep my head down for a couple of days, myself.

Matt (Matt), Wednesday, 19 October 2005 12:21 (twenty years ago)

OTM

beanz (beanz), Wednesday, 19 October 2005 12:35 (twenty years ago)

Funnily enough, I brought in some photos to work today, because someone at work was asking about some university stuff I did, and I've just been looking through all these pictures of people beanz used to know.

Forest Pines (ForestPines), Wednesday, 19 October 2005 12:53 (twenty years ago)

I'm sick of people. Argh.

Also, I'm suddenly realising precisely WHY Access is such a shit program. Argh.

Paranoid Spice (kate), Wednesday, 19 October 2005 13:38 (twenty years ago)

Cool FP - scan and email if you like?

I'm pissed off cos I signed up to go to digital print world (yeah I know) and I'm not going to be able to go. Because it's on during working hours. It only needs to be open a couple of hours later on one of its days for the people who don't actually work for someone who lets them go to irrelevant expos. It's probably for the best – it'll just be a bunch of people trying to sell desktop printers, I guess...

beanz (beanz), Wednesday, 19 October 2005 13:58 (twenty years ago)

Also, I really need to talk about some stuff to someone who isn't involved and don't really feel like I have anywhere to do it right now. Bah.

Paranoid Spice (kate), Wednesday, 19 October 2005 14:01 (twenty years ago)

Not involved in Access?

beanz (beanz), Wednesday, 19 October 2005 14:03 (twenty years ago)

No, personal stuff.

Paranoid Spice (kate), Wednesday, 19 October 2005 14:04 (twenty years ago)

I'd just sit tight and keep my head down for a couple of days, myself.

http://www.casa.gov.au/airsafe/trip/images/brace_b2.gif

Markelby (Mark C), Wednesday, 19 October 2005 14:07 (twenty years ago)

That was me, earlier this afternoon. The new temp who now sits next to me said "oh no, don't cry, Kate!" I wasn't crying, i was swearing.

Paranoid Spice (kate), Wednesday, 19 October 2005 14:08 (twenty years ago)

Or, better, FP and the office gossip:

http://www.banderasnews.com/howto/images/air-3.jpg

Markelby (Mark C), Wednesday, 19 October 2005 14:09 (twenty years ago)

god i know that feeling too well

xxxpost

Ste (Fuzzy), Wednesday, 19 October 2005 14:13 (twenty years ago)

I snapped a pencil under my desk the other day. I know it's not very butch but it helped.

beanz (beanz), Wednesday, 19 October 2005 14:16 (twenty years ago)

This was one of the upsides of catering, when stressed I could always go out to the car park and hurl beer barrels at walls. Very calming.

Matt (Matt), Wednesday, 19 October 2005 14:19 (twenty years ago)

Actually, Mark, that would look rather like the Office Gossip if she didn't dye her hair blonde.

Beanz: looking through the photos again, there's only one with someone who I think you've mentioned you knew on, actually, but I can scan and send if you like, when I get chance.

(most of them are of ruined buildings, not people)

Forest Pines (ForestPines), Wednesday, 19 October 2005 14:29 (twenty years ago)

Did you ever consider drinking from them instead? Also therapeutic, I understand. xpost

Ruined buildings being subjected to archaeological investigation or post-Cowgate fire?

beanz (beanz), Wednesday, 19 October 2005 14:39 (twenty years ago)

The former - they're mostly on the Isle of Lewis.

Forest Pines (ForestPines), Wednesday, 19 October 2005 14:41 (twenty years ago)

Now my colleague just brought over a mini cricket bat for me to hit my stresspig with because I was bashing my stresspig against my head. Today, I hate this job.

Paranoid Spice (kate), Wednesday, 19 October 2005 14:41 (twenty years ago)

(they were taken as potential illustrations for my dissertation)

Forest Pines (ForestPines), Wednesday, 19 October 2005 14:42 (twenty years ago)

The full ones are a little hard to chuck, but I suppose one could roll them aggressively. And me? Drink whilst working? The very idea.

Matt (Matt), Wednesday, 19 October 2005 14:43 (twenty years ago)

Hang on, they just had a mini cricket bat lying around the office? What?

Matt (Matt), Wednesday, 19 October 2005 14:43 (twenty years ago)

So you find it stranger that we have a mini cricket bat than a bright pink pig? Promotional items are all weird.

ACtually, I've no idea why my colleague has a mini cricket bat but it is the source of much mirth.

Paranoid Spice (kate), Wednesday, 19 October 2005 14:51 (twenty years ago)

The pig had been placed in context. Stress Pig, that I understand. "Here, hit it with this mini cricket bat I just happen to have lying around" that's just strange.

Matt (Matt), Wednesday, 19 October 2005 15:05 (twenty years ago)

Bah. The first Wednesday in ages I've not had rehearsal or something, and the Secret Shoegazer Club isn't happening. What am I going to do with myself now? Go home and drink beer? Bah humbug.

Paranoid Spice (kate), Wednesday, 19 October 2005 15:06 (twenty years ago)

Think Spinal Tap? ("Why do you have that cricket bat?" "It's just...." "An affectation?" "Er, yes")

Kate + computer + cricket bat = don't go anywhere near her :)

beanz (beanz), Wednesday, 19 October 2005 15:06 (twenty years ago)

Don't any of you people have weird things like cricket bats hanging around your office? There were much weirder things around when I worked at the ad agency - promotional items and the like.

Paranoid Spice (kate), Wednesday, 19 October 2005 15:16 (twenty years ago)

I'm sick of biting my tongue today. I know it's the healthy thing to do, especially when you're spoiling for a fight because you're in the bad mood. But sometimes you'd really like to just let fly with the nasty thing that you're thinking.

Paranoid Spice (kate), Wednesday, 19 October 2005 15:25 (twenty years ago)

That's what ilx is for, I thought.

The weirdest things in my office are my colleagues (roffle)

beanz (beanz), Wednesday, 19 October 2005 15:34 (twenty years ago)

No, I'm avoiding doing it on ILX specifically. Cause, you know, I'm bored sick of flamewars and trolls. Just sometimes you just wanna...

Ah, never mind. I think I'll just go home. Or maybe wander around London feeling confused and lost.

Paranoid Spice (kate), Wednesday, 19 October 2005 15:36 (twenty years ago)

Have a quiet pint. I'll go and have one for you n'all. And I really do hope tomorrow's better for you (couple of unpleasant days on this thread, boo hiss to those causing them).

Matt (Matt), Wednesday, 19 October 2005 15:38 (twenty years ago)

The one day I actually wanted to spend some time with other people, and was looking forward to it - everyone else is too busy. Bah.

Paranoid Spice (kate), Wednesday, 19 October 2005 15:40 (twenty years ago)

Oh for god's sake. I came in late this morning and find a deliberate wind-up. I'm just perplexed, more than anything else.

I'm getting sick of my therapy already. I'm getting sick of endless questions and evaluations. I'm sick of more surveys and tests. I suppose it's good that they are being so thorough before they start treatment, but I'm really feeling like I'm being put through the ringer. Sigh.

Have a headache today and it won't go away. Bah. Trying to make up my mind whether to go to Brighton for the weekend or just for the day. Not sure I can afford the former but getting out of London is so nice.

Paranoid Spice (kate), Thursday, 20 October 2005 10:13 (twenty years ago)

My advice: get away for as long as you can.

Forest Pines (ForestPines), Thursday, 20 October 2005 10:37 (twenty years ago)

Perhaps. I don't really have the money to do it - I don't think I get paid until next week and I'm already almost at my limit for monthly saving (plus I really should be saving more for this upcoming move) but god, I can't face another weekend sat in my room trying to avoid my housemates.

Paranoid Spice (kate), Thursday, 20 October 2005 10:55 (twenty years ago)

Hell yes go away for the weekend – it'll do you more good in the long run than staying here and having slightly more cash next week.

beanz (beanz), Thursday, 20 October 2005 11:13 (twenty years ago)

Too much to read, so can someone bring me up to date on what's happening pls?

Oh kate - way to go btw! ;-)

Panther Pink (Pinkpanther), Thursday, 20 October 2005 11:46 (twenty years ago)

Way to go on what? Huh?

Life is kind of rubbish - I have to move. :-(

Paranoid Spice (kate), Thursday, 20 October 2005 12:05 (twenty years ago)

On the guy emailing you back, I knew you had to move already. er I guess I missed some other stuff. Sorry, I've been off work sick.

Panther Pink (Pinkpanther), Thursday, 20 October 2005 12:09 (twenty years ago)

I've not heard from him again. :-(

I wonder if he's coming to Emsk's party next week. His brother's girlfriend lives in the same house as the party (this is how he ended up on the walk) so I'm wondering if I should drop him a short email asking him if he's coming to the party, or inviting him if he doesn't know about it. But I'm a bit nervous about doing so since he didn't answer my second email.

Maybe I should try to pass the message on through his brother or through his brother's girlfriend (this is the French Disco girl, actually, so I know her well enough to ask her to pass on the invite though I don't know his brother well enough) instead. But I don't want to get my (and his) whole social scene involved in the potential seduction.

Paranoid Spice (kate), Thursday, 20 October 2005 12:15 (twenty years ago)

'kin hell.

Paranoid Spice (kate), Thursday, 20 October 2005 12:25 (twenty years ago)

I'd send him an email to say that you're going & it would be nice if he was there.

Panther Pink (Pinkpanther), Thursday, 20 October 2005 12:44 (twenty years ago)

Hrmmm.

ha ha ha, we just had the biggest laugh in my office. The manager from upstairs has this weird... fantasy, since he found out I was in a band, that I'm some super rock'n'roll chick who dresses in leather and rides motorcycles like Lita Ford. And he's always going on about this, every time he sees me.

So finally I said "look, would you like to see a picture of my band?" and showed him that one where I'm all dressed up in tweed and the girls are wearing ballgowns - and it SHATTERED HIS ILLUSIONS!!! It was very very funny.

Paranoid Spice (kate), Thursday, 20 October 2005 12:51 (twenty years ago)

Fantastic!

Matt (Matt), Thursday, 20 October 2005 13:10 (twenty years ago)

Shattered his illusions or created new fantasy?

beanz (beanz), Thursday, 20 October 2005 13:18 (twenty years ago)

Ha ha, actually, from the way he smirked at me when I went to the loo, I'm not sure. ;-)

Paranoid Spice (kate), Thursday, 20 October 2005 13:23 (twenty years ago)

Today I am really really hating Access. Where are the other database boys today?

Paranoid Spice (kate), Thursday, 20 October 2005 14:22 (twenty years ago)

Today I am hating the people who don't call back when I leave them messages. Talk to me! It's free publicity! (mostly good.)

beanz (beanz), Thursday, 20 October 2005 14:29 (twenty years ago)

Hey this is getting to be a long, slow-loading thread. I recommend a part II.

beanz (beanz), Thursday, 20 October 2005 14:34 (twenty years ago)

Oh dear - I hide all but the last 50 answers. I'll start a part two then. Hang on...

Paranoid Spice (kate), Thursday, 20 October 2005 14:38 (twenty years ago)

Yeah I do that sometimes then I want to scroll up so I unhide them and then I forget to rehide and blah blah...

beanz (beanz), Thursday, 20 October 2005 14:42 (twenty years ago)

Off you go, then:

UK Watercooler 2: Electric Boogaloo

Paranoid Spice (kate), Thursday, 20 October 2005 14:42 (twenty years ago)


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