Kate Moss in no cocaine shocker.

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― nathalie (stevie nixed), Thursday, 15 September 2005 16:55 (twenty years ago)

Ah for fuck's sake.

Hope this one works.

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― nathalie (stevie nixed), Thursday, 15 September 2005 16:56 (twenty years ago)

The Pope is also apparently Catholic.

― Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Thursday, 15 September 2005 16:57 (twenty years ago)

Well, like, she doesn't want to get FAT, after all.

― andy --, Thursday, 15 September 2005 17:03 (twenty years ago)

And who knows if that isn't raspberry menthol snuff?

― andy --, Thursday, 15 September 2005 17:04 (twenty years ago)

xpost: cocaine is no diet aid--it keeps you drinking

― Old School (sexyDancer), Thursday, 15 September 2005 17:07 (twenty years ago)

THE Daily Mirror today reveals shocking pictures of supermodel Kate Moss snorting a fat line of cocaine during a debauched drugs and drink session with junkie lover Pete Doherty.

As the white powder induces a sudden rush to her brain, she rocks back in her seat and laughs hysterically. The coke is kicking in.

Within seconds she leans forward and again sniffs into a tightly rolled-up £5 note, hoovering up every last grain of the Class A drug.

It is clear from the extraordinary images, captured during a Mirror undercover investigation, that the 31-year-old catwalk queen is a practised user.

Rumours of her drug habits have circulated for years but she has always denied taking Class As such as cocaine.

In a West London recording studio, though, Kate chats casually with Doherty and pals as she absent-mindedly crushes and chops out the chunky lines on the back of a plastic CD cover.

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With her blonde hair hanging untidily around her shoulders, the model icon, worth £30million, prepares up to 20 lines of coke in just 40 minutes.

Using a mammoth stash, which she kept safely wrapped in her handbag, Kate - mother of a two-year-old daughter - has no qualms about being seen with the illegal drugs.

Doherty and some of his mates mill around, eager to join the binge and impatiently asking to help prepare the drugs.

At one point the Croydon-born beauty - the face of Rimmel, Chanel, Calvin Klein and Christian Dior - loses her patience with one of crackhead Doherty's friends and insists: "I'll do it. I'll do it."

She joins in a discussion about cannabis while joints are passed around some members of the group.

As she parties on well into the early hours, Kate chats merrily about daughter Lila Grace, whose father is magazine publisher Jefferson Hack.

Kate, 10 times a Vogue cover girl,looks unsteady and exhausted as the session continues.

Between lines of cocaine, she repeatedly twitches her nose and rubs her nostrils.

On five occasions she expertly prepares the lines of cocaine, carefully using a credit card to cut the powder into neat rows for her, Doherty and the others.

In long, high-heeled black boots, shorts and a low cut vest top, Kate begins the night with shots of vodka and whisky.

She then pours herself large glasses of wine and beer and chain-smokes cigarettes.

The remarkable images were captured last week as Doherty, 26, laid down tracks for the new Babyshambles album.

Punk rock legend Mick Jones, formerly of The Clash, is producing the record and is also seen snorting cocaine from Kate's stash.

In 1998 Kate told a Channel 4 documentary: "I don't do any Class A -especially not heroin - after seeing what it does to people.

"I don't think you have to be in this industry to see that, you just have to look around you."

In the same year, Kate spent six weeks in The Priory rehab clinic. She told the Mirror at the time: "I've been doing a lot of work and too much partying. I wasn't happy with the way my life was going. So I decided to take a step back and assess my life and future.

"I want to be totally responsible for myself. And this is the place where I can get the peace and quiet I need to start the process."

She admitted later that she had spent much of the 90s drunk, and also revealed that she had problems with drugs. She never admitted using cocaine or other Class As.

"In fashion, excess is not for creative purposes, whatever people may say," she said. "It's about escapism. You just have to get out of it to deal with it. I think that's what a lot of people in fashion that I know do it for. I know that's why I did it."

Two years ago Kate confessed for the first time that her drug habits had once left her in the depths of despair but claimed to have cleaned up her act.

She said: "Dabbling is fine but when I was bang on it, that wasn't a nice time. I was miserable anyway.

"Drugs enhanced all the misery and I got into this spiral. I still drink but I don't do drugs."

Yesterday she was with Doherty in New York for fashion week. They lunched at SoHo's Balthazar restaurant.

― Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Thursday, 15 September 2005 17:11 (twenty years ago)

glad to see the mirror proudly sitting on its high horse

― terry lennox. (gareth), Thursday, 15 September 2005 17:15 (twenty years ago)

With her blonde hair hanging untidily around her shoulders, the model icon, worth £30million, prepares up to 20 lines of coke in just 40 minutes.

I would like to know what this means, she "prepared 20 lines of coke". This reads to me like she just lined them up, there doesn't seem to be an indication that she was actually cutting the shit and weighing it out right there at the damn party. So, seriously, that's kind of, well, slow.

― Allyzay knows a little German (allyzay), Thursday, 15 September 2005 17:38 (twenty years ago)

How *crazy* would it have been if she was doing it off a copy of The Mirror???!!!

― Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Thursday, 15 September 2005 17:41 (twenty years ago)

you've never done cocaine.

― conceptual rolodex, Thursday, 15 September 2005 17:41 (twenty years ago)

Haha Spencer I was kind of thinking that too actually.

― Allyzay knows a little German (allyzay), Thursday, 15 September 2005 17:41 (twenty years ago)

I'd be different if she did 20 lines of coke in 40 minutes.

― Old School (sexyDancer), Thursday, 15 September 2005 17:41 (twenty years ago)

yeah OTM, that would be impressive. Cutting 20 in 40 minutes though, I mean 2 minutes per line???

also actually taking the time for cutting lines is so 20 years ago anyway

― Allyzay knows a little German (allyzay), Thursday, 15 September 2005 17:43 (twenty years ago)

"Doherty and some of his mates mill around, eager to join the binge and impatiently asking to help prepare the drugs."

― Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Thursday, 15 September 2005 17:44 (twenty years ago)

"a Mirror undercover investigation"

― rogermexico (rogermexico), Thursday, 15 September 2005 17:45 (twenty years ago)

Kate begins the night with shots of vodka and whisky.

She then pours herself large glasses of wine and beer.

Gross.

― Je4nn3 ƒur¥ (Je4nne Fury), Thursday, 15 September 2005 17:46 (twenty years ago)

Mirror hacks never do coke.

― Onimo Lies (GerryNemo), Thursday, 15 September 2005 17:47 (twenty years ago)

"In 1998 Kate told a Channel 4 documentary: 'I don't do any Class A...'"

Man, if they held me to everything I said when I was 24...

― rogermexico (rogermexico), Thursday, 15 September 2005 17:48 (twenty years ago)

xpost Four different liquors in a row = guaranteed stomach purge, don't care how coked up you are.

― Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Thursday, 15 September 2005 17:48 (twenty years ago)

I didnt know she lived in brooklyn

― vanessa novaeris (novaeris), Thursday, 15 September 2005 17:49 (twenty years ago)

On five occasions she expertly prepares the lines of cocaine, carefully using a credit card to cut the powder into neat rows for her, Doherty and the others.

EXPERTLY.

― Confounded (Confounded), Thursday, 15 September 2005 17:49 (twenty years ago)

ONLY EXPERTS KNOW THAT

― Allyzay knows a little German (allyzay), Thursday, 15 September 2005 17:51 (twenty years ago)

actually taking the time for cutting lines is so 20 years ago anyway

http://www.comedyzine.com/images/whspoon.jpg

― rogermexico (rogermexico), Thursday, 15 September 2005 17:53 (twenty years ago)

glad to see the mirror proudly sitting on its high horse
-- terry lennox. (...) (webmail), Today 6:15 PM. (later) (link)

No wonder they were impatient, if Kate had left the mirror on a high horse! Did the horse get the cocaine first? Is it a contortionist to be able to get its nose round to a mirror sitting on it? Or maybe that was after Kate and the boys had finished with it, and the horse was only high because it had mixed the drinks and finished off the shots, leaving KAte with the wine and beer?

Or not.

― mark grout (mark grout), Thursday, 15 September 2005 17:55 (twenty years ago)

ride the white pony

― Old School (sexyDancer), Thursday, 15 September 2005 17:57 (twenty years ago)

bump

― laurence kansas (lawrence kansas), Thursday, 15 September 2005 18:02 (twenty years ago)

How does Pete Doherty manage to get through immigration into the U.S?

― Bob Six (bobbysix), Thursday, 15 September 2005 18:09 (twenty years ago)

On his hands and knees like all good junkie rock stars.

― Penelope_111 (Penelope_111), Thursday, 15 September 2005 18:10 (twenty years ago)

I WONDER IF THEY WERE DRINKING BABYSHAMBLES?!?!?!?!

― CUSTO PASSANTINOS, Thursday, 15 September 2005 18:12 (twenty years ago)

Is that some kind of champagne mixed with something else?

― k/l (Ken L), Thursday, 15 September 2005 18:14 (twenty years ago)

It's pear flavored "champagne" with added nutra-sweet to make it diet.

― jocelyn (Jocelyn), Thursday, 15 September 2005 18:16 (twenty years ago)

Gawker now has more photos.

http://www.gawker.com/news/drugs/kate-moss-and-her-cocaine-a-story-told-in-pictures-125859.php

― milozauckerman (miloaukerman), Thursday, 15 September 2005 19:27 (twenty years ago)

Wait, I don't get who took the photos, or video, or whatever it is. Obviously it's a complicated part of the Mirror undercover investigation, but still...
For some reason I was bummed out to read Mick Jones was blowing rails with those people too.

― is bean cobian jojo (Bent Over at the Arclight), Thursday, 15 September 2005 20:09 (twenty years ago)

he did sample "White Lines" after all

― Old School (sexyDancer), Thursday, 15 September 2005 20:12 (twenty years ago)

I don't so much care that Mick's doing coke, but I'm kinda disappointed he's doing it with Pete Doherty and Kate Moss.

― gypsy mothra (gypsy mothra), Thursday, 15 September 2005 20:13 (twenty years ago)

Situation no win.

― O'so Krispie (Ex Leon), Thursday, 15 September 2005 20:25 (twenty years ago)

I don't so much care that Mick's doing coke, but I'm kinda disappointed he's doing it with Pete Doherty and Kate Moss.

hopefully he honked up as much as possible, thinking: "hah, cunts, i'm hoovering all yr coke," and flicking surreptitous Vs under the table.

― grimly fiendish (grimlord), Thursday, 15 September 2005 20:29 (twenty years ago)

cough, "-ious".

― grimly fiendish (grimlord), Thursday, 15 September 2005 20:29 (twenty years ago)

mick jones still does coke?!???!??

― hstencil (hstencil), Thursday, 15 September 2005 20:37 (twenty years ago)

yeah, that's the kind of sad bit...

― paulhw (paulhw), Thursday, 15 September 2005 20:43 (twenty years ago)

do cocaine through your forties, die in your fifties

― Old School (sexyDancer), Thursday, 15 September 2005 20:49 (twenty years ago)

you'd think like going into a coma and almost dying would be enough for some people...

― hstencil (hstencil), Thursday, 15 September 2005 20:56 (twenty years ago)

i'm slightly amazed that she's still got majority custody of the kid. her behavior is notorious at this point.

― lauren (laurenp), Thursday, 15 September 2005 22:37 (twenty years ago)

I think her boyfriend looks after the kid most of the time...

― andy --, Thursday, 15 September 2005 23:15 (twenty years ago)

yeah.. she refers to him as "the babysitter." still, with pd around i'd be worried about my kid spending any time with her.

― lauren (laurenp), Thursday, 15 September 2005 23:18 (twenty years ago)

so THATS how she stays so skinny

― sigh, Thursday, 15 September 2005 23:33 (twenty years ago)

I like how they refer to him as "crackhead Doherty"!

― scout (scout), Thursday, 15 September 2005 23:57 (twenty years ago)

Stop taking my name in vain.

― I Am The World's Forgotten Kate (kate), Friday, 16 September 2005 06:40 (twenty years ago)

No thank you, I don't use the horse.

― Come Back Johnny B (Johnney B), Friday, 16 September 2005 07:07 (twenty years ago)

phew, rock'n'roll.

― N_RQ, Friday, 16 September 2005 08:28 (twenty years ago)

The only thing that surprises me is why this has come out now. There have been dodgy Moss stories circulating for years. Okay, I don't know how true any of them are, but I'm hardly a fashion insider and if I've heard that many, then there must be *some* basis. Tabloids can sit on things for years, they only publish when they feel a celebrities stock is going down. So why now?

― Anna (Anna), Friday, 16 September 2005 08:37 (twenty years ago)

Dating PD = scraping the bottom of the barrel?

Why does she still have such tabloid currency anyway? Weren't her fifteen minutes up already a long time ago?

― The Brocade Fire (kate), Friday, 16 September 2005 08:38 (twenty years ago)

Why am I even talking about this soap opera? Bring back Carlos, he was much prettier anyway. Shuffling him off with a "weird, poorly explained medical condition" was a lame character write-off. or will he reappear next season in PD's shower and the whole thing was just a dream?

― The Brocade Fire (kate), Friday, 16 September 2005 08:40 (twenty years ago)

Carlos is working on teh solo project innit. It might even be good.

Moss's stock is still high cos she's still (well, until yesterday) the peepul's faverit moddull, Croydon townie done good etc. Here's hoping this sends her crashing down like the bore she is. The cow, I fancied her til she revealed what a nasty piece of work she was.

― CharlieNo4 (Charlie), Friday, 16 September 2005 08:56 (twenty years ago)

this is an interesting thing peter bradshaw wrote in today'sguardian:

"And this is because of an outstanding performance from Knightley as Lizzy Bennet, which lifts the whole movie. She gives a performance of beauty, delicacy, spirit and wit; in her growing lustre and confidence she is British cinema's answer to Kate Moss, but Moss is a star from the silent era."

― N_RQ, Friday, 16 September 2005 09:00 (twenty years ago)

Carlos who?

― Raymond Douglas Dadaismus (Dada), Friday, 16 September 2005 09:05 (twenty years ago)

Keira Knightley... the only woman I might despise more than Kate Moss. EAT A FREAKING STEAK, WOMAN, YOU LOOK LIKE YOU'RE GOING TO FALL OVER AT ANY MOMENT.

― The Brocade Fire (kate), Friday, 16 September 2005 09:06 (twenty years ago)

Carlos Barat... what was in The Libertines with PD? Remember them?

― The Brocade Fire (kate), Friday, 16 September 2005 09:07 (twenty years ago)

i saw a photo of kk eating chips. she looked extraordinary.

― N_RQ, Friday, 16 September 2005 09:07 (twenty years ago)

She's the main reason I'm putting off seeing Pride and Prejudice even though I love Jane Austen. OK, she's got the consumptive look down, but still. Ugh. Ruined Arthur even worse than the clunky acting of whassisname who wants to be James Bond - she didn't look like she could even lift a bow, let alone fire one. Grrrrr.

― The Brocade Fire (kate), Friday, 16 September 2005 09:09 (twenty years ago)

I think, when all's said and done, I prefer Keira to Carlos by a factor not computable by modern mathematics

― Raymond Douglas Dadaismus (Dada), Friday, 16 September 2005 09:09 (twenty years ago)

Plus she's not that skinny

― Raymond Douglas Dadaismus (Dada), Friday, 16 September 2005 09:11 (twenty years ago)

Even if I were a man, I think I'd rather f*ck Carlos. he's way prettier than KK or Moss.

― The Brocade Fire (kate), Friday, 16 September 2005 09:12 (twenty years ago)

I plan to take lots of coke at Poptimism tonight. Five or six glasses with ice and lemon should suffice.

― Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Friday, 16 September 2005 09:12 (twenty years ago)

http://img132.exs.cx/img132/5425/brideav.jpg

he should have starred in an Austen flick... maybe he can be Marianne in the next remake of Sense and Sensibility!

― The Brocade Fire (kate), Friday, 16 September 2005 09:13 (twenty years ago)

Incontrovertible proof that you're not a man Kate! (xpost)

― Raymond Douglas Dadaismus (Dada), Friday, 16 September 2005 09:14 (twenty years ago)

laura mulv3y was basically right abotu movies, i think. most movie reviews shd really just say 'i'd hit it' and be done.

― N_RQ, Friday, 16 September 2005 09:14 (twenty years ago)

(Is it me, or is "I'd hit it" the most offensive term ever dreamed up by mankind for sexual attraction?)

― The Brocade Fire (kate), Friday, 16 September 2005 09:16 (twenty years ago)

The cow, I fancied her til she revealed what a nasty piece of work she was.

Why, what did she do?

― mark grout (mark grout), Friday, 16 September 2005 09:16 (twenty years ago)

I mean, is it me, or are her breasts in completely the wrong place?

http://www.tcnj.edu/~smitht2/tasks.6.jpg

― The Brocade Fire (kate), Friday, 16 September 2005 09:17 (twenty years ago)

it's just you, kate. 'i'd do x' is just as 'offensive'.

― N_RQ, Friday, 16 September 2005 09:17 (twenty years ago)

It's the "it" - reducing a person to a genderless object - which really annoys me. I was talking about this with Anna the other night. Even "I'd do her" at least acknowledges that the desired is a person.

Anyway:

http://dam.org/tobreluts/images/kate_moss_1999_s.jpg vs. http://img132.exs.cx/img132/5425/brideav.jpg

FITE!

― The Brocade Fire (kate), Friday, 16 September 2005 09:19 (twenty years ago)

Moss's [public] stock is still high

but that's anna's point: for how much longer? live by the page, die by the page: everybody knows KM has some serious-ass substance problems, but until now the papers have turned a blind eye. this story could have been run at any time in the past five years - judging by the interminable "kate moss seen with her face in a big bag of teh drugz" stories on popbitch every week, plus the ill-disguised "wicked whispers" stuff in the glossies/tabs, she hardly keeps it hidden.

but until now, nobody's made it public. so, like anna says: the mirror has obviously decided she's no longer "special" enough to warrant protection. why now? it can't just be because of PD: that's been going on for the best part of a year. and it can't be because people have only just woken up to the fact that she's an utter, utter waste of space, because that much has been obvious for a long time too.

these things don't just happen by accident. the mirror have decided she's fair game. why? what else is about to come out?

― grimly fiendish (grimlord), Friday, 16 September 2005 09:20 (twenty years ago)

I have to admit, I assumed she was a gigantic drug hoover this whole time, really, arent a lot of models?

― Trayce (trayce), Friday, 16 September 2005 09:20 (twenty years ago)

Well, yes, exactly Trayce. "Woman in fashion industry takes drugs" is hardly a huge shock.

News on the other PD lover:

Ananova:

Barat unveils new band
Former Libertine Carl Barat has unveiled the full line-up for his new band.

Barat has announced that Cooper Temple Clause bassist Didz Hammond has joined the band, reports NME.com.

The as yet un-named band also features former Libertines drummer Gary Powell and Anthony Rossomando who filled in as guitarist following Pete Doherty's departure from the group.

In a posting on www.thelibertines.org.uk, Barat said: "I am proud to announce that our new bass player is none other than the justly acclaimed Didz Hammond, formerly of the Cooper Temple Clause.

"He has never shown anything but love, compassion and talent from the off."

He continued: "Gary, Stantony, Didz and I have toiled day and night for a demo, and finally we have it. It is testament to the struggles of The Libertines, yet quite different. I wrote it for you, I hope it means something to you all."

Meanwhile The Cooper Temple Clause have issued a statement on their official website www.thecoopertempleclause.co.uk confirming Didz's departure.

― Anna (Anna), Friday, 16 September 2005 09:22 (twenty years ago)

how is she a waste of space exactly?

― N_RQ, Friday, 16 September 2005 09:23 (twenty years ago)

Doesn't (didn't?) AMP have a secret thing for Didz?

Sure, they're going to be rub, but at least I can enjoy looking at them.

― The Brocade Fire (kate), Friday, 16 September 2005 09:24 (twenty years ago)

Not sure where else her boobs could be in that picture.

― Markelby (Mark C), Friday, 16 September 2005 09:25 (twenty years ago)

Sure, they're going to be rub, but at least I can enjoy looking at them.

-- The Brocade Fire (masonicboo...), September 16th, 2005.

'them' is genderless.

― N)RQ, Friday, 16 September 2005 09:25 (twenty years ago)

do you use cocaine, kate?

― RJG (RJG), Friday, 16 September 2005 09:26 (twenty years ago)

It's just that the bottom of her ribcage protrudes more than her breasts. That really bothers me.

x-post "them" - there is no third person plural pronoun specifying gender. In the third person singular, there certainly is.

― The Brocade Fire (kate), Friday, 16 September 2005 09:27 (twenty years ago)

these things don't just happen by accident. the mirror have decided she's fair game. why? what else is about to come out?

I've heard interesting tales of her sex life, but again ... where is the truth?

It was me who started on "I'd hit it" as a stupid term. I've had this rant to Gareth before. It's a personal bugbear. "Them" is generless because it's plural and that is they way English works. Come on Enrique, you should know that ... ;-)

― Anna (Anna), Friday, 16 September 2005 09:28 (twenty years ago)

No, I was very glad that I was not the only person who was bothered by "it".

― The Brocade Fire (kate), Friday, 16 September 2005 09:29 (twenty years ago)

in tht the 'hit' was more offensive than the 'it'. it's all game anyway, you know; i'm probably not going to have sex with keira knightley.

― N_RQ, Friday, 16 September 2005 09:30 (twenty years ago)

Kate Moss in no cleavage shocker.

― Raymond Douglas Dadaismus (Dada), Friday, 16 September 2005 09:30 (twenty years ago)

"hit" doesn't bother me any more than screw, boink, boff, jump the bones of (it's possibly a little less creative than some of those terms, but not offensive) - but than again, I will probably never have sex with Carlos Barat anyway. :-|

― The Brocade Fire (kate), Friday, 16 September 2005 09:32 (twenty years ago)

Aw, Kate, Enrique, come on. Never say never...

― Anna (Anna), Friday, 16 September 2005 09:33 (twenty years ago)

it looks spookily like she's holding a wooden half-torso in front of her. i may not sleep tonight.

― g-kit (g-kit), Friday, 16 September 2005 09:33 (twenty years ago)

Have you two never heard of Rohypnol?

― Raymond Douglas Dadaismus (Dada), Friday, 16 September 2005 09:34 (twenty years ago)

DAEREST KEIRA I STOOD UP FOR YOU ON INTERNETS

― N_RQ, Friday, 16 September 2005 09:37 (twenty years ago)

zuh? who two?

― g-kit (g-kit), Friday, 16 September 2005 09:37 (twenty years ago)

The two stalkers

― Raymond Douglas Dadaismus (Dada), Friday, 16 September 2005 09:38 (twenty years ago)

keira's OK

― RJG (RJG), Friday, 16 September 2005 09:38 (twenty years ago)

i dunno who she is.

― g-kit (g-kit), Friday, 16 September 2005 09:39 (twenty years ago)

how is she a waste of space exactly?

er, because she's a vacuous drug-hoover who serves absolutely no purpose other than to give fashion designers a hard-on; who glorifies in a schoolyard culture of celebrity bitching; who has 0 branes; and whose mothering skills could be etched on the head of a pin with a pneumatic hammer. also: she smells of wee.

― grimly fiendish (grimlord), Friday, 16 September 2005 09:39 (twenty years ago)

Trust me, I'm not a stalker. How does stating I will never have sex with a random man make me a stalker?

I'll probably never have sex with Boris Johnson, Jared Harris, Nigel Spivey, or the cute boy in the bookshop, either!

― The Brocade Fire (kate), Friday, 16 September 2005 09:39 (twenty years ago)

james blunt

― RJG (RJG), Friday, 16 September 2005 09:40 (twenty years ago)

how is she a waste of space exactly?
er, because she's a vacuous drug-hoover who serves absolutely no purpose other than to give fashion designers a hard-on; who glorifies in a schoolyard culture of celebrity bitching; who has 0 branes; and whose mothering skills could be etched on the head of a pin with a pneumatic hammer. also: she smells of wee.

-- grimly fiendish (simonmai...), September 16th, 2005.

curiously enough, simon heffer's column in tomorrow's daily mail says exactly the same thing.

― Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Friday, 16 September 2005 09:41 (twenty years ago)

in so many words.

― Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Friday, 16 September 2005 09:41 (twenty years ago)

I will definitely never have sex with James Blunt.

― The Brocade Fire (kate), Friday, 16 September 2005 09:41 (twenty years ago)

The only problem I have with Kate is her taste in men

― Raymond Douglas Dadaismus (Dada), Friday, 16 September 2005 09:42 (twenty years ago)

but she's cute ~~and the smell of piss never put me off~~!

― Onimo (GerryNemo), Friday, 16 September 2005 09:42 (twenty years ago)

Kate Moss, that is................ or is it?

― Raymond Douglas Dadaismus (Dada), Friday, 16 September 2005 09:42 (twenty years ago)

The only problem I have with Kate is her taste in men

WHAT'S WRONG WITH BORIS JOHNSON AND CARLOS BARAT?!?!?

Oh wait, never mind.

― The Brocade Fire (kate), Friday, 16 September 2005 09:43 (twenty years ago)

-- grimly fiendish (simonmai...), September 16th, 2005.

she's a fashion model, she doesn't have to be drug-free. and she can afford to have her kid brought up; ilx would be much more sympathetic to non-famous drug-abusing mothers.

― N_RQ, Friday, 16 September 2005 09:44 (twenty years ago)

kate's not OK

― RJG (RJG), Friday, 16 September 2005 09:44 (twenty years ago)

the shine has come off kate a bit.

― N_RQ, Friday, 16 September 2005 09:45 (twenty years ago)

tbh, i don't give a fuck how much drugs she does. hehe.
seriously, i dun care.

― g-kit (g-kit), Friday, 16 September 2005 09:45 (twenty years ago)

Oh, thanks, RJG, that's the last time I ever compliment your kilt...

::weeps bitter tears::

You, too, NRQ. (barring the fact that I've never seen you in a kilt.)

― The Brocade Fire (kate), Friday, 16 September 2005 09:45 (twenty years ago)

Whereas Keira's like a new pin (xpost)

― Raymond Douglas Dadaismus (Dada), Friday, 16 September 2005 09:45 (twenty years ago)

I don't have a kilt

― RJG (RJG), Friday, 16 September 2005 09:46 (twenty years ago)

I've seen a photo of you in a kilt!

― The Brocade Fire (kate), Friday, 16 September 2005 09:47 (twenty years ago)

(Did I hallucinate that? I don't even take drugs!)

― The Brocade Fire (kate), Friday, 16 September 2005 09:47 (twenty years ago)

that's a playground insult where i come from.

― g-kit (g-kit), Friday, 16 September 2005 09:47 (twenty years ago)

But surely you can hire one for Kate's sake? (xxpost)

― Raymond Douglas Dadaismus (Dada), Friday, 16 September 2005 09:47 (twenty years ago)

I will definitely never hire one for kate's sake

― RJG (RJG), Friday, 16 September 2005 09:49 (twenty years ago)

For pete's sake, leave my name out of this!

― The Brocade Fire (kate), Friday, 16 September 2005 09:49 (twenty years ago)

I always assumed the "it" in "i'd hit it" referred to homing in on a particular part of the body, not referring to a person as such. thus, not rude, as no body parts have genders.

― CharlieNo4 (Charlie), Friday, 16 September 2005 09:54 (twenty years ago)

Penises don't have gender?

― The Brocade Fire (kate), Friday, 16 September 2005 09:55 (twenty years ago)

you can't have a 'male' or 'female' penis, no.

― N_RQ, Friday, 16 September 2005 09:57 (twenty years ago)

curiously enough, simon heffer's column in tomorrow's daily mail says exactly the same thing.

shit. outed.

― grimly fiendish (grimlord), Friday, 16 September 2005 09:57 (twenty years ago)

"look at my cock, ain't she a beauty?"

scariest phrase EVER?

― g-kit (g-kit), Friday, 16 September 2005 09:58 (twenty years ago)

... unlike you, I've never had it said to me, g-kit

― Raymond Douglas Dadaismus (Dada), Friday, 16 September 2005 09:59 (twenty years ago)

... or maybe you're the one who says it!

― Raymond Douglas Dadaismus (Dada), Friday, 16 September 2005 10:00 (twenty years ago)

no comment.

― g-kit (g-kit), Friday, 16 September 2005 10:00 (twenty years ago)

ALL PENISES ARE MALE BY THEIR VERY DEFINITION!!!

Anyway, this pedantic linguistics codswallop is boring me. Can we go back to slagging off Kate "Tree Frog" Moss and her junkie boyfriend (and his junkie ex boyfriend who wants to paint my toenails) some more, please?

― The Brocade Fire (kate), Friday, 16 September 2005 10:00 (twenty years ago)

And it definitely sounds less unsavoury than "I'd hit her". (xpost)

― Markelby (Mark C), Friday, 16 September 2005 10:01 (twenty years ago)

And it definitely sounds less unsavoury than "I'd hit her". (xpost)
-- Markelby (boyincorduro...), September 16th, 2005.

hahaha exactly!

― N_RQ, Friday, 16 September 2005 10:04 (twenty years ago)

I would buff his knob! I would knock his boots! I would boil the broccoli with him! I'd jump his bones! I'd shiver his timbers! I'd make the naked pretzel with him!

just show some creativity, that's all I ask...

― The Brocade Fire (kate), Friday, 16 September 2005 10:04 (twenty years ago)

kate moss is really not very far up the scale of sleb wastes of space. compared to jamie cuntum, chris martin, james the cunt blunt, and her own boyfriend, she's totally harmless.

― The Lex (The Lex), Friday, 16 September 2005 10:05 (twenty years ago)

girls are neuter in german. the gender of a part of the body is in no way intrinsically linked to the gender of the person to whom that body part belongs.

aaanyway.

kate moss, blah blah, not a complete waste of space, blah blah, she is pretty at least, blah blah, but not a very nice person, it seems, blah blah.

― CharlieNo4 (Charlie), Friday, 16 September 2005 10:06 (twenty years ago)

I'd put him in my pipe and smoke him! I'd bury his treasure! I'd blind his man's buff!

― The Brocade Fire (kate), Friday, 16 September 2005 10:06 (twenty years ago)

Yes, all we require is that she stays quiet and looks pretty.

So, can we have some theories as to why "Kate'z Druqks Hell" is happening now?

― Anna (Anna), Friday, 16 September 2005 10:07 (twenty years ago)

Where "being creative" leads.

― aldo_cowpat (aldo_cowpat), Friday, 16 September 2005 10:07 (twenty years ago)

"So I was out with Keira Knightley last night"

"Oh aye? So did ye get yer hole or whit?"

― Raymond Douglas Dadaismus (Dada), Friday, 16 September 2005 10:07 (twenty years ago)

Sigh.

― The Brocade Fire (kate), Friday, 16 September 2005 10:08 (twenty years ago)

Bwah hah hah hah hah! I'm sorry but "Pork Steeple" is the funniest thing I've heard in yoinks. The lyrics to that song are hillarious. Too bad it's the Bloodhound Gang, as they are unfortunately not.

― The Brocade Fire (kate), Friday, 16 September 2005 10:10 (twenty years ago)

does nobody else think she looks skanky as opposed to pretty, and always has? she looks like something you'd find under your fridge.

― grimly fiendish (grimlord), Friday, 16 September 2005 10:10 (twenty years ago)

I've always found her "beauty" an utter mystery. I just think she looks like a treefrog. Some models, as vaccuous and annoying as they are - at least they are actually beautiful. Moss is just weird looking in an entirely unattractive way.

― The Brocade Fire (kate), Friday, 16 September 2005 10:12 (twenty years ago)

Whereas i'd say most models aren't beautiful and Kate Moss is actually exceptionally pretty

― Raymond Douglas Dadaismus (Dada), Friday, 16 September 2005 10:13 (twenty years ago)

whatever. these chicks need cookies.

― g-kit (g-kit), Friday, 16 September 2005 10:14 (twenty years ago)

So, can we have some theories as to why "Kate'z Druqks Hell" is happening now?

perhaps there's about to be a custody battle, in which case this would come out in court, and there'd be no money in having it as an exclusive at that point?

― toby (tsg20), Friday, 16 September 2005 10:14 (twenty years ago)

I'm finding it easier to read all of Kate's posts on this thread in the voice of Janeane Garofalo.

xpost Dadaismus otm

― CharlieNo4 (Charlie), Friday, 16 September 2005 10:14 (twenty years ago)

Janeane Garofalo is actually pretty, so that's just fine!

― The Brocade Fire (kate), Friday, 16 September 2005 10:18 (twenty years ago)

that's a great idea charlie! i'm reading all of kate's recent posts in the voice of justin timberlake.

― The Lex (The Lex), Friday, 16 September 2005 10:19 (twenty years ago)

Justin Timberlake is, however, *not* pretty. So stop that!

― The Brocade Fire (kate), Friday, 16 September 2005 10:20 (twenty years ago)

i think kate moss's almost-skanky 'indie girl'ness is part of her appeal.

― N_RQ, Friday, 16 September 2005 10:21 (twenty years ago)

read mine in the voice of Felix the Cat.
seriously, it's fucking funny.

― g-kit (g-kit), Friday, 16 September 2005 10:21 (twenty years ago)

puh-LEASE. Winona Ryder is more indie than Moss. Hanging out with Oasis and Pete Doherty is hardly indie, even by the loosest definition.

― The Brocade Fire (kate), Friday, 16 September 2005 10:22 (twenty years ago)

God, she makes me just want to punch her, on every level. I did not know I was capable of feeling such loathing for a person I do not know and have no interaction with.

― The Brocade Fire (kate), Friday, 16 September 2005 10:22 (twenty years ago)

nrq otm. skankiness = attractive if you do it well. cf xtina.

― The Lex (The Lex), Friday, 16 September 2005 10:23 (twenty years ago)

Xtina = not remotely attractive

― Raymond Douglas Dadaismus (Dada), Friday, 16 September 2005 10:23 (twenty years ago)

yes, but at least doesn't look like you'd catch ringworm off her.

― grimly fiendish (grimlord), Friday, 16 September 2005 10:24 (twenty years ago)

::falls off chair laughing::

Well, that's why she and Pete belong together. They can breed ringworms.

― The Brocade Fire (kate), Friday, 16 September 2005 10:26 (twenty years ago)

what in blazes are you guys on about? oh dear, a fashion model does drugs. does she look diseased? no. a bit like she's done bad things? yeah. ringworm. christ.

nb: xtina = not hot, sorry.

― N_RQ, Friday, 16 September 2005 10:27 (twenty years ago)

I doubt she changes her towels very often.

― The Brocade Fire (kate), Friday, 16 September 2005 10:28 (twenty years ago)

OH NOES

― N_RQ, Friday, 16 September 2005 10:28 (twenty years ago)

or, ew, depending on whatyou mean by 'towels'.

― N_RQ, Friday, 16 September 2005 10:29 (twenty years ago)

I still say she looks fine to me, mighty fine!

― Raymond Douglas Dadaismus (Dada), Friday, 16 September 2005 10:30 (twenty years ago)

Please read, I say, please read my posts in the voice of Foghorn Leghorn

― Raymond Douglas Dadaismus (Dada), Friday, 16 September 2005 10:31 (twenty years ago)

ok, read mine in the voice of elmer fudd.

but she still looks skanky. weally, weally howwible.

― grimly fiendish (grimlord), Friday, 16 September 2005 10:34 (twenty years ago)

Thinking of Foghorn Leghorn saying "Oh aye? So did ye get yer hole or whit?" just cost me a mouthful of pepsi (not coke).

― Onimo (GerryNemo), Friday, 16 September 2005 10:36 (twenty years ago)

Xtina == totally hotttt. crazies, yall.

― spontine (cis), Friday, 16 September 2005 10:40 (twenty years ago)

this thread needs some calum.

― N_RQ, Friday, 16 September 2005 10:42 (twenty years ago)

No, not crazies, men

― Raymond Douglas Dadaismus (Dada), Friday, 16 September 2005 10:42 (twenty years ago)

Moss = hott in adverts, not otherwise, ymmv.

I also wonder why this has had the mighty tabloid splurge now.

Other than that, I'm not really bothered. Pete D? Feh.

― Pashmina (Pashmina), Friday, 16 September 2005 11:04 (twenty years ago)

Actually, the custody battle argument makes a lot of sense. Tabloids were going on about how unhappy Jefferson Hack was with her continued relationship with Doherty, especially in proximity to the child, etc.

― The Brocade Fire (kate), Friday, 16 September 2005 11:05 (twenty years ago)

I actually feel icky for posting that. Or, indeed, even knowing that. I just couldn't help reading! I kept seeing people leaving tabloids open on the bus and how can I resist something with the headline KATE AND PETE JUNKIE FUCK etc. etc. blah blah - I wish she had a different name, then I wouldn't care.

― The Brocade Fire (kate), Friday, 16 September 2005 11:07 (twenty years ago)

I doubt she changes her towels very often.

Yeah, I bet she never empties the crumb tray in her toaster neither!

xpost Enrique ewww ewww ewww!

― CharlieNo4 (Charlie), Friday, 16 September 2005 11:10 (twenty years ago)

like I said, crazies.

― spontine (cis), Friday, 16 September 2005 11:22 (twenty years ago)

(xpost)

― spontine (cis), Friday, 16 September 2005 11:22 (twenty years ago)

"I don’t know karate but I know ker-ayyzee!"

― Raymond Douglas Dadaismus (Dada), Friday, 16 September 2005 11:25 (twenty years ago)

oh, snap.

― N_RQ, Friday, 16 September 2005 11:31 (twenty years ago)

i don't understand the 'waste of space' accusation. it rests on the assumption that all the other 60 million people on this island are fabulously useful.

― N_RQ, Friday, 16 September 2005 11:33 (twenty years ago)

kate's just jealous

― RJG (RJG), Friday, 16 September 2005 11:39 (twenty years ago)

Of what? Her money and fame, perhaps. Her looks? I may have zero to no self esteem, but I can say with utter and complete confidence that I think I am prettier than Kate Moss. My grandmother is prettier than Kate Moss (actually, that doesn't work because my grandmother was a celebrated beauty in her day). OK, the lady who stands outside Sainsburys and barks at passing cars is prettier than Kate Moss.

I'm sorry, I think she is seriously unattractive, not just physically but on a personal level as well.

― The Brocade Fire (kate), Friday, 16 September 2005 11:48 (twenty years ago)

(Sorry, personality level. Obviously I do not know her personally.)

― The Brocade Fire (kate), Friday, 16 September 2005 11:49 (twenty years ago)

I've never fancied Kate, or Christina. I've gone off Keira too. I still have a crush on the ex Babyshambles drummer though.

― Sociah T Azzahole (blueski), Friday, 16 September 2005 11:50 (twenty years ago)

I think she is (at times) seriously attractive

http://ctran.free.fr/themes/Photo2/kate_moss_017.jpg

― Onimo (GerryNemo), Friday, 16 September 2005 11:57 (twenty years ago)

She looks particularly tree froggish in that picture.

I have occasionally seen her looking alright, but I suspect that's just the clothes.

― The Brocade Fire (kate), Friday, 16 September 2005 11:59 (twenty years ago)

Maybe a lot of men just like tree frogs

― Raymond Douglas Dadaismus (Dada), Friday, 16 September 2005 12:00 (twenty years ago)

she ain't all that.

― g-kit (g-kit), Friday, 16 September 2005 12:00 (twenty years ago)

I'd hit it
http://www.tropicalexpeditions.com/images/Red_eye_tree_frog.jpg

― Onimo (GerryNemo), Friday, 16 September 2005 12:01 (twenty years ago)

i'd lick it.

― g-kit (g-kit), Friday, 16 September 2005 12:02 (twenty years ago)

it rests on the assumption that all the other 60 million people on this island are fabulously useful.

eh? it wasn't a comparative, so ... no it doesn't. lots and lots of people are wastes of space. kate moss is one of them.

― grimly fiendish (grimlord), Friday, 16 September 2005 12:04 (twenty years ago)

Tree frogs, bull frogs, moaning frogs...of course, they're all moaning frogs after i've finished with them.

Popular standards of beauty confuse me.

ILX conventional wisdom says Kate Moss is attractive, but Jared Harris is not. Go figure.

― The Brocade Fire (kate), Friday, 16 September 2005 12:06 (twenty years ago)

unpopular standards of beauty are indie

― N_RQ, Friday, 16 September 2005 12:08 (twenty years ago)

I am so confused by beauty and popular standards

― RJG (RJG), Friday, 16 September 2005 12:16 (twenty years ago)

I've never seen the attraction of Kate Moss. Less of a tree-frog, more like a marmoset or small monkey. Her dead's the wrong shape, for starters.

and I certinaly don't get popular beauty standards. I'm sure there's an easy rule of thumb., but I haven't the foggiest what.

― Come Back Johnny B (Johnney B), Friday, 16 September 2005 12:18 (twenty years ago)

i think my taste in beauty is a bit mainstream, hey-ho.

― N_RQ, Friday, 16 September 2005 12:19 (twenty years ago)

i'm very indie.

― g-kit (g-kit), Friday, 16 September 2005 12:19 (twenty years ago)

so, so confused

― RJG (RJG), Friday, 16 September 2005 12:22 (twenty years ago)

I find Kate Moss aesthetically appealing but I don't find her sexy at all

― Raymond Douglas Dadaismus (Dada), Friday, 16 September 2005 12:23 (twenty years ago)

dada otmfm

― g-kit (g-kit), Friday, 16 September 2005 12:25 (twenty years ago)

exactly! and that's the difference betwen the looks of the woman, and the woman herself. kate moss puts me off kate moss innit.

xpost

― CharlieNo4 (Charlie), Friday, 16 September 2005 12:25 (twenty years ago)

A lot of women end up seen as pretty but not sexy (e.g. Dido?) and vice versa - but if anything i think Moss is more the latter than the former, or not, I can't decide - this is part of what makes her intriguing perhaps.

― Sociah T Azzahole (blueski), Friday, 16 September 2005 12:27 (twenty years ago)

i don't think there's an absolute opposition between the two.

― N_RQ, Friday, 16 September 2005 12:29 (twenty years ago)

i've never found dido sexy.

― N_RQ, Friday, 16 September 2005 12:29 (twenty years ago)

Kate Moss is about as intriguing as my abdomen.

― Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Friday, 16 September 2005 12:30 (twenty years ago)

Don't be so hard on yourself Marcello

― Raymond Douglas Dadaismus (Dada), Friday, 16 September 2005 12:31 (twenty years ago)

I am intrigued by the question mark/debate over whether or not she is attractive/pretty/ugly/sexy. This is esp. interesting as she has never been deemed to have a particualrly 'adrogynous' look as far as I know.

― Sociah T Azzahole (blueski), Friday, 16 September 2005 12:33 (twenty years ago)

What does androgyny have to do with it?!?!??!

― Raymond Douglas Dadaismus (Dada), Friday, 16 September 2005 12:34 (twenty years ago)

Because often that is at the centre of such arguments - women who have what are seen as masculine features/appearance often have that question mark put upon them, by both men and women.

― Sociah T Azzahole (blueski), Friday, 16 September 2005 12:35 (twenty years ago)

i think she's pretty. which means attractive. sexy is a process, not an essence, or something.

― N_RQ, Friday, 16 September 2005 12:35 (twenty years ago)

I don't know about that. Keira Knightley looks pretty androgynous to me... f'rinstance (xpost)

― Raymond Douglas Dadaismus (Dada), Friday, 16 September 2005 12:36 (twenty years ago)

Why are people acting like "I'd hit it" is specific to women? Charlie OTM up there, it = the azzzz = the generic erogenous zone (under EU legislation).

― Andrew Farrell (afarrell), Friday, 16 September 2005 12:37 (twenty years ago)

kate moss can look androgynous sometimes. i don't think keira does much.

― N_RQ, Friday, 16 September 2005 12:39 (twenty years ago)

will this confusion ever end?

― RJG (RJG), Friday, 16 September 2005 12:40 (twenty years ago)

Really Dadaismus? I wouldn't say so at all, re Keira. I think she is model of what's thought of as distinctly feminine beauty.

'I'd hit it' and variants is said by Avenue D, L'Trimm, Fannypack and the like.

Moss is reasonably sexy in the White Stripes and Primal Scream videos, but most lithe women doing pole-dancing or whatever kind of dancing that's supposed to be in the 'Some Velvet Morning' vid probably would pull that off just as well.

― Sociah T Azzahole (blueski), Friday, 16 September 2005 12:40 (twenty years ago)

I don't think she's androgynous at all. Reasons she's not attractive to me: 1) she is too skinny, painfully so 2) her face is too round and her eyes are too far apart and prodtruding, like a tree frog 3) she has this slightly parted expression to her mouth which makes her look perpetually gormless 4) coke addicts are seldom attractive.

― The Brocade Fire (kate), Friday, 16 September 2005 12:40 (twenty years ago)

Anyway, I have to stop reading this thread because one of the brokers just commented on the expression on my face - somewhere between difficult concentration and disgust, apparently!

― The Brocade Fire (kate), Friday, 16 September 2005 12:41 (twenty years ago)

Why would you be disgusted?

4) coke addicts are seldom attractive.

I fancied Shola Ama a little (she was on a 'Price Of Fame' show on ITV the other night talking about her £1000 a week habit back in 1998 which ruined her career - ZAMMO was also on it :).

― Sociah T Azzahole (blueski), Friday, 16 September 2005 12:42 (twenty years ago)

Actually, I don't know - I find Bobby G attractive and lord knows what drugs he abuses.

― The Brocade Fire (kate), Friday, 16 September 2005 12:44 (twenty years ago)

Oh fuck, Bobby Gillespie, he's a fucking hound!

― Raymond Douglas Dadaismus (Dada), Friday, 16 September 2005 12:45 (twenty years ago)

kate OTM on all counts, but particularly 3). can i add a 5): she has dead eyes. and in grimly world, it's all about the eyes.

― grimly fiendish (grimlord), Friday, 16 September 2005 12:45 (twenty years ago)

indeed. gyles brandreth eyes, as i was recently quoted in the times apropos madonna on nyplm.

― Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Friday, 16 September 2005 12:46 (twenty years ago)

Dada you will never convince kate of bobby g's hounditude, god knows I've tried.

― Pashmina (Pashmina), Friday, 16 September 2005 12:47 (twenty years ago)

What does that mean, "he's a hound"? Does that mean he's a dog? Or that he looks like a hound. I rather like hound-faced men. Long faces with pointy noses and deep set eyes, oh yes. Get in!

― The Brocade Fire (kate), Friday, 16 September 2005 12:47 (twenty years ago)

heheh! that's particularly damning, marcello.

― grimly fiendish (grimlord), Friday, 16 September 2005 12:48 (twenty years ago)

Coke addiction is unattractive but despite this it has little bearing on how pretty or even sexy someone is, aesthetically - unless their nose starts to erode like Sam Mitchell v1.

― Sociah T Azzahole (blueski), Friday, 16 September 2005 12:48 (twenty years ago)

models are supposed to look dead-eyed in their photos, jesus.

― N_RQ, Friday, 16 September 2005 12:49 (twenty years ago)

deep set eyes

It helps if you have eyes to start with and not two raisins

― Raymond Douglas Dadaismus (Dada), Friday, 16 September 2005 12:51 (twenty years ago)

oh yes! it's worth mentioning here that kate has famously bizarre taste in men, so her taste in women is by no means likely to be any more comprehensible...

― CharlieNo4 (Charlie), Friday, 16 September 2005 12:51 (twenty years ago)

Bobby G:
http://www.teezz.co.uk/images/fridge-magnets/irish-wolfhound-d26-tn.jpg

Hound:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/pressoffice/images/bbc/talent/radiotalent/6music_bobby_gillespie.jpg

― The Brocade Fire (kate), Friday, 16 September 2005 12:51 (twenty years ago)

i dated a beautiful medical student for 2 years back in the mid-90s who swore blind kate moss was the most beautiful woman she'd ever seen [med student status included to suggest she was the least likely woman in the world to approve of moss's alleged wild behaviour]

― foxy boxer (stevie), Friday, 16 September 2005 12:52 (twenty years ago)

i'm very tempted to expostulate at length about why billie piper and charlotte church = yes and kate moss and keira knightley = no, but i'm getting a bit too old for that kind of unregulated expostulation.

― Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Friday, 16 September 2005 12:52 (twenty years ago)

i do not look like kate moss, btw

― foxy boxer (stevie), Friday, 16 September 2005 12:52 (twenty years ago)

stevie looks much nicer than kate moss!

― Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Friday, 16 September 2005 12:53 (twenty years ago)

I saw Miss Moss walking around Soho NYC a few weeks ago and, never having paid too much attention to her before, I have to say she was one of the more attractive famous people I've seen.

― k/l (Ken L), Friday, 16 September 2005 12:54 (twenty years ago)

Stevie is much cuter than Kate Moss. (But, as above, sorry this isn't that much of a compliment.)

― The Brocade Fire (kate), Friday, 16 September 2005 12:54 (twenty years ago)

and, of course, instant end of argument - helen mirren cover/article in time out last week. some people have just GOT "it"!

― Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Friday, 16 September 2005 12:56 (twenty years ago)

See, I reckon Charlotte Church and Keira Knightley = yes, but Billie Piper and Kate moss = no. Innit good that we're all different?

― Come Back Johnny B (Johnney B), Friday, 16 September 2005 12:56 (twenty years ago)

models are supposed to look dead-eyed in their photos, jesus.

no, i'm simon.

and, er, who says? in between posting here, i'm editing the fashion pages for next week's magazine. we've actually just had to reduce the page count because the model looks so bloody glaikit in the pictures. i don't know much about these things, but i know that the shoots everyone likes are the ones where the models look sultry/playful/sexy/amused. not, er, dead and fish-like.

i think - as with many popular standards of beauty - there's a heavy degree of emperor's-new-clothes-ism going on with miss moss.

― grimly fiendish (grimlord), Friday, 16 September 2005 12:57 (twenty years ago)

AMEN! BOW BEFORE TEH MIRREN.

XPOST

― CharlieNo4 (Charlie), Friday, 16 September 2005 12:57 (twenty years ago)

I don't want to sound like Calum but it's = yes for all four! (xxxpost)

― Raymond Douglas Dadaismus (Dada), Friday, 16 September 2005 12:58 (twenty years ago)

why does helen mirren (the keira knightley of the late 60s/early 70s) being hot end the 'argument'?

― N_RQ, Friday, 16 September 2005 12:58 (twenty years ago)

[med student status included to suggest she was the least likely woman in the world to approve of moss's alleged wild behaviour]

Here's me to say Whaaaa?

― mark grout (mark grout), Friday, 16 September 2005 12:58 (twenty years ago)

Ooh, lovely hound:

http://www.snponline.com/PHOTOS/Gallery/StPats3-23/images/du%20wolfhound%203-23-05%20tn%204c.jpg

― The Brocade Fire (kate), Friday, 16 September 2005 12:59 (twenty years ago)

But for hottness as opposed to prettiness, it is indeed as Johnny says:

Charlotte Church and Keira Knightley = yes
Billie Piper and Kate moss = no.

― Raymond Douglas Dadaismus (Dada), Friday, 16 September 2005 13:00 (twenty years ago)

I don't want to sound like Calum but it's = yes for all four! (xxxpost)
-- Raymond Douglas Dadaismus (dadaismu...), September 16th, 2005.

haaaaa otm!

― N_RQ, Friday, 16 September 2005 13:00 (twenty years ago)

According to the celeb mag I flicked through in Asda last night (I was roffling @ jordan wedding photogs) ms church & her man are "on the rocks". you may be in there.

― Pashmina (Pashmina), Friday, 16 September 2005 13:01 (twenty years ago)

Um Stevie I've never met a medical student who didn't at least *drink* a horrifying amount.

― Anna (Anna), Friday, 16 September 2005 13:02 (twenty years ago)

(I should post that picture on What Do You Look Like? and say it's me with Cu Cuchlain.)

― The Brocade Fire (kate), Friday, 16 September 2005 13:03 (twenty years ago)

I was roffling @ jordan wedding photogs

Oh Jesus, ha ha, I happened to see the cover of Hello in a shop window this morning: Peter Andre, what's up with his face?!?!?!

― Raymond Douglas Dadaismus (Dada), Friday, 16 September 2005 13:03 (twenty years ago)

medical students may act that way but in my experience are conservative in their views on such things.

― N_RQ, Friday, 16 September 2005 13:04 (twenty years ago)

doesn't KKn take the coke in large doses as well? that's what i heard anyway...

― jive session (elwisty), Friday, 16 September 2005 13:06 (twenty years ago)

i've heard that rumour. and as for billie ... remember "chazbaps"?

i refuse to believe ms church doesn't dabble either.

[gets sued]

― grimly fiendish (grimlord), Friday, 16 September 2005 13:07 (twenty years ago)

if i had lots of money, i would take cocaine.

― N_RQ, Friday, 16 September 2005 13:07 (twenty years ago)

Oh nothing wrong with a bit of coke every now and then

― Raymond Douglas Dadaismus (Dada), Friday, 16 September 2005 13:08 (twenty years ago)

I don't think I'd use it, no matter how much money I had.

― Pashmina (Pashmina), Friday, 16 September 2005 13:09 (twenty years ago)

Cocaine is a drug I've never understood the appeal of. Granted, I'm not much of a "drugs" person, but it was one that I seriously never got.

― The Brocade Fire (kate), Friday, 16 September 2005 13:10 (twenty years ago)

e = turns you into gurning hippy
acid = drives you mad
heroin = duh
pot = boring
ketamine = see heroin
speed = snakebite

cocaine soudns better than the others

― N_RQ, Friday, 16 September 2005 13:12 (twenty years ago)

Um Stevie I've never met a medical student who didn't at least *drink* a horrifying amount.

that is true... but she was very much the healthstress, and also of a very old-fashioned worldview (in the nicest, most liberal, most generous way).

― foxy boxer (stevie), Friday, 16 September 2005 13:16 (twenty years ago)

the best reason not to take it is for the sake of your poor friends, who have to put up with you being a platinum-plated coke-addled knob all night. (i speak from experience here: on both sides.)

really good speed is a lot more fun and a lot less expensive. (although i haven't actually bothered with any of this stuff for a good few years now, so what do i know?)

― grimly fiendish (grimlord), Friday, 16 September 2005 13:16 (twenty years ago)

is it socially acceptable to do lines on your own?

― N_RQ, Friday, 16 September 2005 13:17 (twenty years ago)

My opinion was not based on how it "sounded" but on how it felt, and on how it affected friends' behaviour.

― The Brocade Fire (kate), Friday, 16 September 2005 13:17 (twenty years ago)

really good speed is a lot more fun and a lot less expensive

Bingo!

― Raymond Douglas Dadaismus (Dada), Friday, 16 September 2005 13:18 (twenty years ago)

power move!

― N_RQ, Friday, 16 September 2005 13:19 (twenty years ago)

Classic story of "working" w/cocaine users - in studio w/dj and studio owner, both of whom are partial to a bit quite often. We decide to do a session on a Sunday & try to get loads done. I suggest we work w/o them using, so we can actually get something done at all. Great idea, they say. Sunday comes, the studio owner is all like "look what I scored!!!" so they keep doing rails all through the alleged "session", yehyeh sniff yehyeh sniff yehyeh etc etc etc. 0 got done, of course. Cone the next recording session they're all going through the computer, where are the files they recorded on sunday (there weren't any) they must have got lost! do a search! who fucked up! What's wrong w/the computer! I handed in my notice on the proj. not long after that.

I'd put down fairly long odds that not much is getting done in that studio.

― Pashmina (Pashmina), Friday, 16 September 2005 13:22 (twenty years ago)

This thread is better than coffee for waking up more on a Friday.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 16 September 2005 13:23 (twenty years ago)

("that studio" = the one in the mirror story)

x-post good morning ned!!

― Pashmina (Pashmina), Friday, 16 September 2005 13:23 (twenty years ago)

("that studio" = the one in the mirror story)

DYS? kate is saving us all from more babyshambles material.

― N_RQ, Friday, 16 September 2005 13:24 (twenty years ago)

A good point!

― Pashmina (Pashmina), Friday, 16 September 2005 13:24 (twenty years ago)

kate is saving us all from more babyshambles material.

Kate Moss = National Heroin(e)

― Raymond Douglas Dadaismus (Dada), Friday, 16 September 2005 13:25 (twenty years ago)

I don't behave any differently on speed than on coke, but then I don't really turn into a knob on drugs for some reason. Booze can make me obnoxious, (non-violently) aggressive, depressed. Drugs = very happy smiley boy who will probably talk way too much which can be mildly annoying but that's about it.

(I don't take either very often AT ALL I should add, haven't done speed in a few years).

I quite fancy Kate Moss. Charlotte Church/Bille Piper - no thanks. Keira - she might be quite hot, not really sure, haven't been paying attention.

― Colonel Poo (Colonel Poo), Friday, 16 September 2005 13:25 (twenty years ago)

Sorry that was supposed to be an xpost!

― Colonel Poo (Colonel Poo), Friday, 16 September 2005 13:25 (twenty years ago)

ALL HAIL THE EVIL KATE MOSS!!!

― The Brocade Fire (kate), Friday, 16 September 2005 13:26 (twenty years ago)

you know, i had a friend in high school that was kate moss skinny and she once ate 13 big macs in one sitting on a dare from me, which was a record, but 3 or 4 big macs followed by a personal pavlova from the bakery across the street from macdonalds were a typical after school snack for her. she never got fat and she never used cocaine. some people that skinny are just naturally that way.

2 things to masonicboomkate:

you know the difference between pretty and beautiful, right? i agree kate moss isnt pretty.

"Stop taking my name in vain."
Its my name too and i want that cover blown up and on my wall stat.

― sunny successor (he hates my guts, we had a fight) (katharine), Friday, 16 September 2005 14:09 (twenty years ago)

ps winona ryder refers to bono as 'family'. indie? NO

― sunny successor (he hates my guts, we had a fight) (katharine), Friday, 16 September 2005 14:10 (twenty years ago)

ps winona ryder refers to bono as 'family'. indie? NO

How does Bono refer to Winona Ryder, "That mad bitch who goes around claiming to be related to me"?

― Raymond Douglas Dadaismus (Dada), Friday, 16 September 2005 14:12 (twenty years ago)

i think she's stunning, but i've yet to hear a story/witness a scene that doesn't show her up as an extremely ill-mannered slapper.

― lauren (laurenp), Friday, 16 September 2005 14:13 (twenty years ago)

the problem with popb1tch (at some point they stopped sending me the newsletter) is every story was the same bitter thing. so i can't remember anything specific about moss. she did drug! she had sex! was all most 'bitch stories came up with.

― N_RQ, Friday, 16 September 2005 14:15 (twenty years ago)

I've obviously missed all this.

I only heared the pwnage of Jeremy Clarkson.

― mark grout (mark grout), Friday, 16 September 2005 14:16 (twenty years ago)

she once ate 13 big macs in one sitting

fucking hell!

at some point they stopped sending me the newsletter

they did that to me too: i think there was some vast mailing-list fuck-up. i e-mailed them and said "where's me popbitch?" and i got it back. it's occasionally got something decent in it.

― grimly fiendish (grimlord), Friday, 16 September 2005 14:28 (twenty years ago)

i don't miss it.

― N_RQ, Friday, 16 September 2005 14:31 (twenty years ago)

ps winona ryder refers to bono as 'family'. indie? NO
How does Bono refer to Winona Ryder, "That mad bitch who goes around claiming to be related to me"?

-- Raymond Douglas Dadaismus (dadaismu...) (webmail), Today 10:12 AM. (Dada) (later)

i remember reading a courtney love interview years ago where she recounted a recent winona birthday party she attended where she made some disparaging remarks about bono to which winona replied with the above "family" quote. say what you will about courtney but she was embarrassed for her, as anyone would be.

― sunny successor (he hates my guts, we had a fight) (katharine), Friday, 16 September 2005 14:35 (twenty years ago)

cocaine soudns better than the others

Of course if you want to appear a complete paranoid twat, go ahead and hover up all the coke you can. I think it's a horrendous drug.

She's much like Madonna: who hasn't fucked her? The list goes on and on and on. The climax being Depp of course.

I like Kate Moss. She's versatile. Looks great in ads and fashion spreads. But, alas, she has ugly legs and she's somewhat short so as a runway model she's not all that. Also, she has that combined nastiness of being arrogant and dumb. God, reading her bio - yes, I'm one of the few suckers who read it - was a snore fest and a half. Reading interviews with her is even worse. Also her style is being copied so much now.

― nathalie (stevie nixed), Friday, 16 September 2005 14:37 (twenty years ago)

She's much like Madonna: who hasn't fucked her?

me.

― N_RQ, Friday, 16 September 2005 14:39 (twenty years ago)

I think that was a typo.

"Kate Moss: She's much like Madonna, who hasn't fucked her."

― mark grout (mark grout), Friday, 16 September 2005 14:42 (twenty years ago)

'personal pavlova'!

best phrase ever

― The Lex (The Lex), Friday, 16 September 2005 14:43 (twenty years ago)

Thanks to Kate Moss's style (who I think is fine as a model, she looks good in Chanel Coco ads) we now have model du jour Gemma Ward, who's so odd looking.
http://www.vogue.de/imperia/dw/axium/images/1/2/3/2739/MDimage1_1_2_0_0.jpg

― jocelyn (Jocelyn), Friday, 16 September 2005 14:49 (twenty years ago)

Don't blame Kate Moss for that, there were odd looking models before Kate Moss and, in fact, one of the things that made her stand out was that she genuinely was pretty

― Raymond Douglas Dadaismus (Dada), Friday, 16 September 2005 14:52 (twenty years ago)

All of the supermodels in those George Michael videos are prettier than Moss, IMPO.

― Sociah T Azzahole (blueski), Friday, 16 September 2005 15:01 (twenty years ago)

I only heared the pwnage of Jeremy Clarkson.

you what?

― jive session (elwisty), Friday, 16 September 2005 15:05 (twenty years ago)

mark grout doesn't know about the word "heard", I have noticed

― RJG (RJG), Friday, 16 September 2005 15:08 (twenty years ago)

unless you're just talking about the clarkson thing: he got a pie in the face at his honourary degree graduation thing

― RJG (RJG), Friday, 16 September 2005 15:09 (twenty years ago)

from Brooks university haha

― suckling pig at a rave (alix), Friday, 16 September 2005 15:23 (twenty years ago)

supposedly...

JC "Hi, I;m Jeremy Clarkson, I do "Top Gear""
KM "What, you're a drug dealer?"

― mark grout (mark grout), Friday, 16 September 2005 15:25 (twenty years ago)

To be honest the dead fish expression doesn't make me thing of anything so much as Gollum.

― Andrew Farrell (afarrell), Friday, 16 September 2005 15:26 (twenty years ago)

that picture doesn't even look like her, so how do we even know it looks like her. they published it in retaliation for a libel suit. but it don't look like her.

― simian (dymaxia), Friday, 16 September 2005 15:36 (twenty years ago)

Which picture?

― Sociah T Azzahole (blueski), Friday, 16 September 2005 15:43 (twenty years ago)

the one on the mirror.

― simian (dymaxia), Friday, 16 September 2005 15:45 (twenty years ago)

that picture doesn't even look like her, so how do we even know it looks like her.

er, eh?

they published it in retaliation for a libel suit

ooh, tell more.

― grimly fiendish (grimlord), Friday, 16 September 2005 15:55 (twenty years ago)

I saw Guinevere Van Seenus the other day at Whole Foods. I used to be very into her, but in person she looked like otherworldly, but not necessarily in a good way.

― Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Friday, 16 September 2005 16:12 (twenty years ago)

Kate Moss looks soooo good in the current-ish Dior ads

― roxymuzak (roxymuzak), Friday, 16 September 2005 18:43 (twenty years ago)

http://www.vogue.de/imperia/dw/axium/images/1/2/3/2739/MDimage1_1_2_0_0.jpg

Neoteny is a term in developmental biology that describes the retention of juvenile characteristics in the adults of a species and is similar to but not the same as progenesis, which is the attainment of sexual maturity by an organism still in its larval stage, as is found among certain amphibians and insects. The word itself is derived from the Latin neotenia, which is a composition of the prefix Greek neo- meaning "young" and the teinein to extend.

In humans neoteny is manifest in the paedomorphic characteristics exhibited by fertile women.

― latebloomer: neurotic politician (latebloomer), Friday, 16 September 2005 18:52 (twenty years ago)

seriously, and we wonder why "aliens" from ufos look like humans!

http://www.amethystmoon.com/images/Neonate_alien_small1.gif

― latebloomer: neurotic politician (latebloomer), Friday, 16 September 2005 18:55 (twenty years ago)

its us from the future MAAAAAAN

― latebloomer: neurotic politician (latebloomer), Friday, 16 September 2005 18:55 (twenty years ago)

oh yeah cocaine and kate moss

― latebloomer: neurotic politician (latebloomer), Friday, 16 September 2005 18:55 (twenty years ago)

Kate Moss looks soooo good in the current-ish Dior ads

And she wouldn't if she were a huge drug addict. I mean, I oughta know, 'cos I smoke crack all day long.

― simian (dymaxia), Friday, 16 September 2005 18:59 (twenty years ago)

So what happened to Richard Ashcroft ? I mean, obviously the drugs didn't work for him.

― nathalie (stevie nixed), Friday, 16 September 2005 19:02 (twenty years ago)

Gemma Ward has the eyebrow pouches I've always dreamed of having

― Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Friday, 16 September 2005 19:03 (twenty years ago)

wtf is an 'eyebrow pouch'?

― simian (dymaxia), Friday, 16 September 2005 19:42 (twenty years ago)

GIS turns up a very NSFW image of Moss looking hottt with short, brunette hair (Winona Ryder in Alien:Resurrection, whatever that style is called).

― milozauckerman (miloaukerman), Friday, 16 September 2005 20:03 (twenty years ago)

Going by the rest of this thread, I'm going to assume she's stuffing tree frogs dippeid in cocaine into her vagina in the picture you're referencing, Milo.

― The Ghost of Black Elegance (Dan Perry), Friday, 16 September 2005 20:04 (twenty years ago)

Her dead's the wrong shape, for starters.

The skeletal supermodel look taken too far.

― Onimo (GerryNemo), Friday, 16 September 2005 20:07 (twenty years ago)

Oh to be a tree frog.

― milozauckerman (miloaukerman), Friday, 16 September 2005 20:14 (twenty years ago)

Now that Kate is here.

― jocelyn (Jocelyn), Friday, 16 September 2005 20:21 (twenty years ago)

I'm definitely more shocked that Pete Doherty actually showed up in a recording studio

― Morley Timmons (Donna Brown), Friday, 16 September 2005 21:23 (twenty years ago)

http://emorysmemories.tripod.com/websale/saleimages/ce3kcard.JPG

― latebloomer (latebloomer), Friday, 16 September 2005 22:08 (twenty years ago)

Kate Moss has the best lawyers in showbiz - that's why all the PRs and journos who post on popbitch are always so noidy about her on there. Libel law, according to the guy who advises ESM, means that if you are caught using one class A they can write wiithout impunity about the rest (which is why ESM did not get in trouble over allegations made about Br3tt And3rs0n by D@m0n A1b@rn in print there, cuz BA admitted to a line of this or that in print elsewhere).

I think the Mirror are not particularily concerned with helping J3ff3rson as he really has no juice in this town. The important thing was GETTING PHOTOS and the ramifications suggested upthread might occur to basically any sentient lawyer but prob not to a Mirror hack.

Oh and BTW a few of the 'showbiz' columnists got into the game by beginning as dealers of class A's.

― suzy (suzy), Friday, 16 September 2005 22:19 (twenty years ago)

I'm definitely more shocked that Pete Doherty actually showed up in a recording studio

He's obviously pussy-whipped.

― recovering optimist (Royal Bed Bouncer), Friday, 16 September 2005 22:27 (twenty years ago)

Ugh:

KATE MOSS is reportedly such a seasoned drug user she can make a cannabis joint using a tampon cover.

Former BABYSHAMBLES manager JAMES MULLORD was stunned when the supermodel shared her sordid trick with him - especially as he had hoped she would be a calming influence on her boyfriend PETE DOHERTY.

He says, "She once showed us how to make a joint out of a tampon cover which was pretty impressive. She knows a lot about drugs.

"I've never seen Kate completely out of it on drugs. Though she gets a bit melodramatic and stroppy when she's had a bit."

http://www.contactmusic.com/new/xmlfeed.nsf/mndwebpages/moss%20made%20joint%20out%20of%20tampon%20cover

― James Mitchell (James Mitchell), Sunday, 18 September 2005 19:58 (twenty years ago)

I think a pretty girl who uses drugs is a good thing.

― shookout (shookout), Monday, 19 September 2005 00:02 (twenty years ago)

I'm sorry, that "joint made from a tampon cover" thing is the funniest thing I've ever heard in my life. In all my days as a writer of smutty rock novels, even I never came up with anything so brilliantly sordid. Well done to her for that one. I wish I'd thought of it when I was still doing The Charms saga.

― The Brocade Fire (kate), Monday, 19 September 2005 07:48 (twenty years ago)

(I have a friend who was taught - by her boyfriend at the time, 1mr@n Kh@n - how to make an ordinary cig into a joint by removing all tobacco, mixing with active ingredient, and then funneling it all back into the fag)

Tampon wrapper 'skins' = surely a camper's trick five miles from the nearest R1zla? Knew it was possible but never mentioned in mixed company before.

― suzy (suzy), Monday, 19 September 2005 08:29 (twenty years ago)

Jazz ciggie in regular ciggie wrapping is old hat. But the idea of smoking a tampon... oh, that's brilliant, it's just pure filth. If I'd known five years ago I'd have had Beth Blair doing it on the back of the Charms Tourbus. But I was never enough of a smoker to get that desperate. Awww, I need to dig that stuff out. Dammit, Kate Gordon did the "married for 48 hours during a rohypnol binge in Vegas" years before Britney, dagnabbit!

― The Brocade Fire (kate), Monday, 19 September 2005 08:39 (twenty years ago)

this is known in my circle as a SECRET AGENT. they're a bit rubbish, tbh.

― g-kit (g-kit), Monday, 19 September 2005 08:45 (twenty years ago)

Well, it's probably pretty obvious what we call them in mine!

So what do we call What Katy Did? Tampax Torch or Kate Kone?

― suzy (suzy), Monday, 19 September 2005 08:49 (twenty years ago)

Ha ha, I am too endlessly amused by the headlines. (Kind of like my friend Hugh in NYC used to cut out descriptions of Mr. Grant's misadventures for "Hugh Dirty Dog!" fun.) Yesterday it was COCAINE KATE IN THREE IN A BED LESBIAN ROMP!!! And Emsk looked at me and said "who have you been shagging?" and I shrugged and replied "No idea, I must have been on drugs!"

Tampax Tipple. Risque Rizla.

― The Brocade Fire (kate), Monday, 19 September 2005 08:52 (twenty years ago)

Germaine Ganja?

― suzy (suzy), Monday, 19 September 2005 09:04 (twenty years ago)

A Ruby Doobie?

― Penelope_111 (Penelope_111), Monday, 19 September 2005 09:05 (twenty years ago)

throat disintegratx0r

― g-kit (g-kit), Monday, 19 September 2005 09:05 (twenty years ago)

(i'm being realistic rather than humorous, obv)

― g-kit (g-kit), Monday, 19 September 2005 09:06 (twenty years ago)

Mooncuppa Maryjane!??!!?

― The Brocade Fire (kate), Monday, 19 September 2005 09:08 (twenty years ago)

Ruby Doobie is AWESOME. Flo-cone anyone?

― suzy (suzy), Monday, 19 September 2005 09:15 (twenty years ago)

A flowing cone gathers no Moss

― Penelope_111 (Penelope_111), Monday, 19 September 2005 09:27 (twenty years ago)

two months pass...

Oh my fucking word, this is hilarious:

http://thebosh.com/archives/2005/11/video_topless_k.php

Probably not safe for work, unless you work in fashion photography.

― James Mitchell (James Mitchell), Tuesday, 22 November 2005 23:23 (twenty years ago)

The top threads on both ILE and ILM have "kate" in the title. Hmmm.

― jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 22 November 2005 23:24 (twenty years ago)

"Kate [plant]", no less

― Yawn (Wintermute), Tuesday, 22 November 2005 23:28 (twenty years ago)

six months pass...

This might be from Popbitch, or something, but I heard a very good rumour tonight that the father of Kate Moss' kid isn't Jefferson Hack, but is in fact a certain knighted billionaire who runs trains, plane and ~~auto~~mobile phones.

Story to run in the News of the World after the World Cup ends, then.

― James Mitchell (James Mitchell), Monday, 5 June 2006 22:15 (nineteen years ago)

Maybe they should ask him what else he's done for a living. Jefferson Hack is a dead-eyed dunnowhat, or at least he was on Friday.

― suzy (suzy), Monday, 5 June 2006 22:21 (nineteen years ago)

where did you see him suzy

― gear (gear), Monday, 5 June 2006 22:29 (nineteen years ago)

Tate party for Francesco Vezzoli, he was doing that walk-at-3/4-to-everyone-angle that people in Dior do to look even more thin.

― suzy (suzy), Monday, 5 June 2006 22:31 (nineteen years ago)

two years pass...

lol britishes

― carne asada, Thursday, 28 August 2008 21:07 (seventeen years ago)

i know i love it

― Surmounter, Thursday, 28 August 2008 21:08 (seventeen years ago)

i hope it doesn't go to her head

THE ATTENTION I MEAN NOT COCAINE

― DG, Thursday, 28 August 2008 21:12 (seventeen years ago)

― Surmounter, Thursday, 28 August 2008 21:13 (seventeen years ago)

"Kate Moss in no cocaine shocker."

I don't understand my own thread titles. I'm gone senile. :-(

― stevienixed, Saturday, 30 August 2008 11:34 (seventeen years ago)

two months pass...

I am currently reading another Kate Moss bio.

Yes, my second one.

― Nathalie (stevienixed), Tuesday, 11 November 2008 12:43 (seventeen years ago)

any good?

― the goth from the hilarious 'nemi' comics (ken c), Tuesday, 11 November 2008 13:24 (seventeen years ago)

does it come with cocaine?

― tipsy mothra, Tuesday, 11 November 2008 16:04 (seventeen years ago)

she

― Mark G, Tuesday, 11 November 2008 16:06 (seventeen years ago)

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