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The Colbert Report starts on monday.

Is he going to be able to pull this off for an extended period?

― kingfish superman ice cream (kingfish 2.0), Monday, 10 October 2005 20:46 (twenty years ago)

At the very least, he has given me a new catchphrase when I spell my surname over the phone.

― Jerry the Nipper (Jerrynipper), Monday, 10 October 2005 20:51 (twenty years ago)

(starts next week, actually.)

― when something smacks of something (dave225.3), Monday, 10 October 2005 21:00 (twenty years ago)

well, yeah, thus the "starts on monday," not "starts tonight!" bit...

― kingfish superman ice cream (kingfish 2.0), Monday, 10 October 2005 21:04 (twenty years ago)

The Daily Show certainly seems to be floundering finding a replacement. They had the unfunny Rob Corddry's unfunnier little bro on the other night!

― Jerry the Nipper (Jerrynipper), Monday, 10 October 2005 21:06 (twenty years ago)

IT'S FRENCH,, ,BITCH.

― nein Socken (nein Socken), Monday, 10 October 2005 21:07 (twenty years ago)

http://img430.imageshack.us/img430/4480/colbert0xb.jpg

He's not afraid of anything. Except maybe bears.

― James Mitchell (James Mitchell), Monday, 10 October 2005 21:17 (twenty years ago)

I liked Corddry's brother, but then again, i like rob corddry, whom his brother apes.

― kingfish superman ice cream (kingfish 2.0), Monday, 10 October 2005 21:18 (twenty years ago)

have fun ogling my boyfriend while i watch network tv, tree haters

― sunny successor (he hates my guts, we had a fight) (katharine), Monday, 10 October 2005 21:50 (twenty years ago)

I kinda preferred li'l brudder.

― Casuistry (Chris P), Monday, 10 October 2005 21:54 (twenty years ago)

The replacements have been somewhat awful, yes. Dan Bakkedahl was easily the worst, though.

I like Corddry (R) though, although his Plame skit was, well, douchey.

― William Bloody Swygart (mrswygart), Monday, 10 October 2005 23:17 (twenty years ago)

well? any good?

― kingfish neopolitan sundae (kingfish 2.0), Tuesday, 18 October 2005 05:49 (twenty years ago)

Cobert by himself was pretty funny, but it didn't seem like he could carry the show by himself. then he interviewed Stone Phillips and the show got HILARIOUS

― lemin (lemin), Tuesday, 18 October 2005 07:01 (twenty years ago)

It's different from the Daily Show. Colbert never breaks character, so there's no Stewart to play the straight man, leaving that role entirely to the guest.
Then again, Colbert's character is funny as hell, so it might work out, it's too early to tell.

― naus (Robert T), Tuesday, 18 October 2005 08:06 (twenty years ago)

i wish i could see this show.

― AaronK (AaronK), Tuesday, 18 October 2005 10:23 (twenty years ago)

That was really good. I'd like to have a transcript of that "feeling vs. knowing" bit at the beginning — it was funny, but also creepy as hell.

― William Paper Scissors (Rock Hardy), Tuesday, 18 October 2005 11:22 (twenty years ago)

I thought it worked out pretty for a first episode, but I'm already a huge fan of Colbert. I'm sure they'll be working this out for a few months before they nail it, but it's not far off the mark right now. Jon Stewart took a few months to really kick in when he started on The Daily Show too.

― Matthew C Perpetua (inca), Tuesday, 18 October 2005 11:44 (twenty years ago)

It's great how they drop the t in "Report" so that it's pronounced like his name.

Also, AaronK: BitTorrent.

― naus (Robert T), Tuesday, 18 October 2005 11:45 (twenty years ago)

It's great how they drop the t in "Report" so that it's pronounced like his name.

i was wondering who else would notice that.

― astor riviera (Jody Beth Rosen), Tuesday, 18 October 2005 11:47 (twenty years ago)

i missed this last night -- i'll be bittorrenting soon.

― astor riviera (Jody Beth Rosen), Tuesday, 18 October 2005 11:47 (twenty years ago)

Stone Phillips was great!

― Tripmaker (SDWitzm), Tuesday, 18 October 2005 13:24 (twenty years ago)

The CNN.com article about the show made a HUGE deal about the dropped 'T'; I don't think it was intended to be subtle.

I was playing WoW so I wasn't playing close attention but there were multiple points where I hollered with laughter. Also, who knew Stone Phillips was so funny????

― The Ghost of Black Elegance (Dan Perry), Tuesday, 18 October 2005 13:36 (twenty years ago)

that set is a thing of beauty! and the intro! with the eagle!

― teeny (teeny), Tuesday, 18 October 2005 13:45 (twenty years ago)

The first episode was already funnier than 90% of the Daily Show episodes. This is going to be so great.

― walter kranz (walterkranz), Tuesday, 18 October 2005 13:47 (twenty years ago)

Nice painting, Mr. Phil Ken Sebben.

― David R. (popshots75`), Tuesday, 18 October 2005 13:49 (twenty years ago)

Actually, between last night's premiere and the Harvey Birdman Sebben & Sebben orientation film, I dare say Stephen Colbert is having the BEST WEEK EVER!

― David R. (popshots75`), Tuesday, 18 October 2005 13:50 (twenty years ago)

i kiss you for that, daver

― astor riviera (Jody Beth Rosen), Tuesday, 18 October 2005 14:03 (twenty years ago)

The Stone Phillips interview was hilarious, but I wonder how many other guests he's going to be able to find who can play along as well. Good start, though.

― gypsy mothra (gypsy mothra), Tuesday, 18 October 2005 14:13 (twenty years ago)

did Stephen talk about Stone's hair?

― kingfish neopolitan sundae (kingfish 2.0), Tuesday, 18 October 2005 14:16 (twenty years ago)

More about his neck.

― gypsy mothra (gypsy mothra), Tuesday, 18 October 2005 14:17 (twenty years ago)

I loved it! The eagle and the Phil Ken Sebben-esque painting were both things of wonder.

― O'so Krispie (Ex Leon), Tuesday, 18 October 2005 14:20 (twenty years ago)

How long until Bill O'Reilly seethes with rage about being parodied?

― disco violence (disco violence), Tuesday, 18 October 2005 14:22 (twenty years ago)

O'Reilly is going to be the guest on The Daily Show tonight, so maybe not too long.

― Matthew C Perpetua (inca), Tuesday, 18 October 2005 15:20 (twenty years ago)

I'll be happier when they stop talking about how it was the first episode, and Colbert has done his "enunciation exercises with gravitas" schtick before, but there was a lot of funny hidden away and it was nice. But it might be too much Colbert -- it's missing the obvious human connection that Stewart can give.

― Casuistry (Chris P), Tuesday, 18 October 2005 17:28 (twenty years ago)

Eh, at least with this approach any ass-kissing towards right wing interviewees will be funny instead of infuriating (not looking forward to another fawning interview with O'Reilly tonight).

― O'so Krispie (Ex Leon), Tuesday, 18 October 2005 17:31 (twenty years ago)

but colbert enunciates so beautifully! i'll never get tired of hearing someone speak well.

― astor riviera (Jody Beth Rosen), Tuesday, 18 October 2005 17:34 (twenty years ago)

He's so eloquent!

― The Ghost of Black Elegance (Dan Perry), Tuesday, 18 October 2005 17:34 (twenty years ago)

And articulate!

― The Ghost of Black Elegance (Dan Perry), Tuesday, 18 October 2005 17:35 (twenty years ago)

actually i think the daily show correspondents have much better speaking voices than most of the cable-news talking heads.

― astor riviera (Jody Beth Rosen), Tuesday, 18 October 2005 17:36 (twenty years ago)

mojor xpost

thanks. i'll keep it in mind. i'm currently scared of bitTorrent.

― AaronK (AaronK), Tuesday, 18 October 2005 17:36 (twenty years ago)

It's because of all of the botox, the anchors can't move their mouths properly anymore.

x-post

― O'so Krispie (Ex Leon), Tuesday, 18 October 2005 17:37 (twenty years ago)

nicole wins, with dan a close second

― astor riviera (Jody Beth Rosen), Tuesday, 18 October 2005 17:38 (twenty years ago)

i love the way he exclaims "babies!"

― :[ (Adrian Langston), Tuesday, 18 October 2005 17:49 (twenty years ago)

http://www.livejournal.com/community/tds_rps/

― mattuttack, Tuesday, 18 October 2005 17:57 (twenty years ago)

Format-wise, it sounds more Jiminy Glick than the Daily Show.

― Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Tuesday, 18 October 2005 21:26 (twenty years ago)

"You're the folks who say, Something's got to be done. Well, you're doing something - you're. watching. t.v. And on this show, your voice will be heard. In the form of my voice."

I like that he's staying in character but NOT in that Jiminy Glick way, god no. It makes things like the interaction btwn the stage manager and Colbert pretty great, yet the viewer doesn't feel left out of the joke. A weird balance of laughing at and laughing with.

haha, "babies", yes - xpost

― rrrobyn (rrrobyn), Tuesday, 18 October 2005 21:59 (twenty years ago)

Hmm. I like Jiminy Glick!

― Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Tuesday, 18 October 2005 22:06 (twenty years ago)

It was great. I'm really grateful for this show, as the Daily Show is getting waaay too slapstick.

― miccio (miccio), Tuesday, 18 October 2005 22:15 (twenty years ago)

Plus a faux-O'Reilly is way better comedy material than a liberal who reacts to news clips by making funny noises and bugging his eyes out.

― miccio (miccio), Tuesday, 18 October 2005 22:16 (twenty years ago)

Rerun starting right now.

― William Paper Scissors (Rock Hardy), Tuesday, 18 October 2005 23:31 (twenty years ago)

I like 5 minutes of Jiminy Glick. (But then, I've never watched a whole show, so I can't truly judge, I guess!)
xpost

― rrrobyn (rrrobyn), Tuesday, 18 October 2005 23:33 (twenty years ago)

This could get grating fast.

Without Colbert, Rocca, Carell, less Lewis Black, no more Esquire sex columnist, etc. I don't have a lot of interest in watching the Daily Show.

― Are You Nomar? (miloaukerman), Tuesday, 18 October 2005 23:38 (twenty years ago)

"My alphabet begins with the letter Yuzz, which I use to spell Yuzz-a-ma-Tuzz... look it up"

Also:

http://img445.imageshack.us/img445/2088/colbertreport29qx.jpg

...and when the guest made his entrance, it was Colbert running across the studio waving to camera whilst the guest was already sat down so you could hardly see him. Genius.

― James Mitchell (James Mitchell), Tuesday, 18 October 2005 23:40 (twenty years ago)

yeah, I wasn't sure if stone dressed all in black and with not too much lighting on him was part of that joke or whether it was just bad lighting!

― teeny (teeny), Tuesday, 18 October 2005 23:47 (twenty years ago)

liberal

ooh, anthony said a dirty word

― astor riviera (Jody Beth Rosen), Wednesday, 19 October 2005 00:02 (twenty years ago)

So is Mencia supposed to be the retarded Hispanic Dave Chappelle?

― Are You Nomar? (miloaukerman), Wednesday, 19 October 2005 00:11 (twenty years ago)

leading off your first show with a cliche routine on tattoos = you are not long for this world, my son.

― Are You Nomar? (miloaukerman), Wednesday, 19 October 2005 00:12 (twenty years ago)

yeah, I wasn't sure if stone dressed all in black and with not too much lighting on him was part of that joke or whether it was just bad lighting!

That was definitely the joke and I thought it was hilarious! Stone Phillips looked genuinely uncomfortable milling around in the dark.

― walter kranz (walterkranz), Wednesday, 19 October 2005 00:25 (twenty years ago)

...and when the guest made his entrance, it was Colbert running across the studio waving to camera whilst the guest was already sat down so you could hardly see him. Genius.

Yeah, but is it a joke you can do every night? I want them to get all those jokes out of their system and see what they do then. (And yes, I could listen to Colbert enunciate all day.)

― Casuistry (Chris P), Wednesday, 19 October 2005 01:58 (twenty years ago)

the "Gravitas contest" was great. Also, Colbert does the deadpan improvising better than Stewart.

― kingfish neopolitan sundae (kingfish 2.0), Wednesday, 19 October 2005 05:46 (twenty years ago)

More like "Gruvvytus".

― James Mitchell (James Mitchell), Wednesday, 19 October 2005 08:13 (twenty years ago)

I really hope they do all 435 parts.

― Casuistry (Chris P), Wednesday, 19 October 2005 08:13 (twenty years ago)

"THAT IS NOT A CAGE."

"The Word" reminds me of Kevin Nealon's Subliminal Man character.

― astor riviera (Jody Beth Rosen), Thursday, 20 October 2005 02:34 (twenty years ago)

>the Daily Show is getting waaay too slapstick.<

>a faux-O'Reilly is way better comedy material than a liberal who reacts to news clips by making funny noises and bugging his eyes out.<

You guys just hate pure comedy, right?

I've only seen the first 2, but the Savannah congressdork is one of the funnier things Colbert has ever done. That kind of sadism needs a worthy target to work, and he had one.

Making these TV-news guests look like 'good sports' is insidious. (Leslie Stahl balking at SC's perceptive comment that Nixon was in many ways to the left of John Kerry: omigod, don't rip the curtain away from our pretense...)

― Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 20 October 2005 12:39 (twenty years ago)

first off, those quotes are from me and I'm one person. And as you followed my quotes with further explanation of why Colbert was great, I don't know why your questioning my love of "pure comedy" (which I hope isn't doing sloppy, overlong doubletakes at Bush quotes).

― miccio (miccio), Thursday, 20 October 2005 14:02 (twenty years ago)

I really hope Colbert can pull this off. I've watched the past 2 nights, and it's obvious he's still getting acquainted with spending that much sustained time on camera. I'm still loving it, though.

― elmo (allocryptic), Thursday, 20 October 2005 14:11 (twenty years ago)

The comedy is in the Bush quotes, of course; Stewart's reaction shots are there to give them breathing space and the right pacing.

― Casuistry (Chris P), Thursday, 20 October 2005 15:34 (twenty years ago)

maybe this show should be weekly, not daily

― Sym Sym (sym), Thursday, 20 October 2005 16:12 (twenty years ago)

are you kidding? with the amount of new material that's been coming out on a daily basis now?

― kingfish neopolitan sundae (kingfish 2.0), Thursday, 20 October 2005 16:17 (twenty years ago)

oh wait, you're making this point about Colbert's show, not about TDS.

Hmm. I dunno.

― kingfish neopolitan sundae (kingfish 2.0), Thursday, 20 October 2005 16:23 (twenty years ago)

yeah, I dunno if Colbert can keep this up on a daily basis. it seems like the joke will wear thin (tho right now it is really fucking funny - wish I coulda stayed up for the new episode last night)

― Shakey Mo Collier (Shakey Mo Collier), Thursday, 20 October 2005 16:24 (twenty years ago)

I watched the Colbert Report last night, and while I'm a big Steven Colbert fan and generally enjoy the Daily Show, I thought it was mostly real bad.

― polyphonic (polyphonic), Thursday, 20 October 2005 16:46 (twenty years ago)

http://nypress.com/18/43/film/troy.cfm?in1=y


This guy made a salient point: "Even Bill O'Reilly knows that Bill O'Reilly is already a caricature, and even a fan of Colbert's preening idiot routine can start feeling claustrophobic after a whole 22 minutes of it." That simpering eunuch Aaron Brown seems more parodyable (tho I'd assume the SNL guy's version is toothless).

― Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 2 November 2005 16:49 (twenty years ago)

I saw a couple of these, and I quite liked it, but...it's really just Brass Eye Live, isn't it? Or at least it's trying to be.

― JimD (JimD), Wednesday, 2 November 2005 17:02 (twenty years ago)

So far I like this show better than the Daily Show.

― walter kranz (walterkranz), Wednesday, 2 November 2005 18:11 (twenty years ago)

Thing is, I've noticed that Stephen changes his persona a little, or at least reveals a little more of his actual self, during the interview segments. He's far quicker at improvising than Jon is(not too surprising, given Colbert's background in Chicago vs Jon's in stand-up), and the guests are usually far more in on the joke and apparently eager to be honest & play along.

― kingfish orange creamsicle (kingfish 2.0), Wednesday, 2 November 2005 18:17 (twenty years ago)

Nice Pere Ubu mention in tonight's show!

― walter kranz (walterkranz), Friday, 4 November 2005 05:35 (twenty years ago)

I have no desire to watch the Daily Show now that this is on.

― miccio (miccio), Friday, 4 November 2005 07:03 (twenty years ago)

The Daily Show is suffering mightily from its correspondents. You just can't be in for good things when Rob Corddry is your big avian flu joke.

― Are You Nomar? (miloaukerman), Friday, 4 November 2005 07:07 (twenty years ago)

they're shifting around their staff, just give it time

― kingfish orange creamsicle (kingfish 2.0), Friday, 4 November 2005 07:37 (twenty years ago)

He's far quicker at improvising than Jon is(not too surprising, given Colbert's background in Chicago vs Jon's in stand-up), and the guests are usually far more in on the joke and apparently eager to be honest & play along.

I think this is off. Jon is extremely quick and knows how to steer and recover from awkward interview quagmires much better, though I'll admit Colbert is already very good and getting better, especially as he's burdened with having to keep in character. A bigger hurdle is that the in-character interview conceit requires not only willing but most importantly able participants(who can get in a word edgewise - the interviews I've seen reveal Colbert to be a less than generous comedy partner). I think the way to go is to book either known "bright bulbs" and/or book complete stiffs and approximate an Ali-G dynamic, anything in between kinda sucks.

― tremendoid (tremendoid), Friday, 4 November 2005 07:50 (twenty years ago)

I like how every Monday on the Colbert Report brings fresh improvements. The 2nd week, when they moved the interviews to the middle segment, to break up the monotony of the all-Colbert format.

I suspect it will get better, and I suspect eventually the Daily Show will make up for its less than stellar correspondants.

I do wish the Colbert Report had less "skit" flavor. On the other hand, that Jeff Daniels interview was excellent, and very smoothly played by Colbert.

― Casuistry (Chris P), Friday, 4 November 2005 08:13 (twenty years ago)

yeah daily show's still fine. i'm really liking colbert report.

― j blount (papa la bas), Friday, 4 November 2005 09:52 (twenty years ago)

I'm really happy that they're working their way through the districts. If they make it through all of them, it will be one of the most impressive (formal) things ever done by a comedy show.

― Casuistry (Chris P), Friday, 4 November 2005 19:06 (twenty years ago)

I'm perfectly fine with the Colbert interview style. Yes, it requires more willingness, but I'm here for political comedy, not Meet The Press.

― 'Twan (miccio), Friday, 4 November 2005 19:08 (twenty years ago)

Rob Corrdry has a brother!

― David R. (popshots75`), Friday, 4 November 2005 19:12 (twenty years ago)

He has for at least a month!

― Dan (Nate's Been 'Around The Block') Perry (Dan Perry), Friday, 4 November 2005 19:19 (twenty years ago)

Awesome!

― David R. (popshots75`), Friday, 4 November 2005 19:19 (twenty years ago)

>I think the way to go is to book either known "bright bulbs" and/or book complete stiffs and approximate an Ali-G dynamic<

Ali G dynamic will not work with a studio audience, and since all the guests so far seem to know who/what Colbert is.

SC did manage to mock Nixon's Last Secretary without being crude; that was good.

And at least he hasn't stuck his nose up Mike Wallace's tabloid-geezer ass the way Stewart did the other night.

― Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Friday, 4 November 2005 19:24 (twenty years ago)

One of the great things about the character-based anchor is that he's never going to pull a "but seriously..." which Stewart does better than most comedians, but it gets tired either way. Plus Stewart's decided to increase the funnyface and Weekend Update-isms to reaffirm his not-a-journalist status rather than tell stronger jokes. I'm more interested in how the Colbert character would react to changes in the political climate than how Stewart would. It could peter out but as Causistry notes, it could end up more formally novel than Daily Show ever was.

Does anybody know how its doing ratingswise? I'm wondering if it loses people due to the lack of liberal self-identifaction. People I know who claim to only get their news from the Daily Show (former employers even, yeesh) might not care for it.

x-post and yeah, that Wallace thing reaffirms the "but seriously..." shit is comedy death.

― 'Twan (miccio), Friday, 4 November 2005 19:26 (twenty years ago)

Does anybody know how its doing ratingswise?

It's been been renewed for a whole year, so I guess it must be doing okay.

― KSTFUNS (Ex Leon), Friday, 4 November 2005 19:28 (twenty years ago)

Woo!

― 'Twan (miccio), Friday, 4 November 2005 19:28 (twenty years ago)

Stewart seems to be sinking deeper and deeper into lazy Lettermanisms.

― walter kranz (walterkranz), Friday, 4 November 2005 19:31 (twenty years ago)

well, conan's got leno to look forward to, so what do you expect? they're not gonna give it to craig ferguson.

― firstworldman (firstworldman), Friday, 4 November 2005 20:02 (twenty years ago)

Usually TDS works best when the actual clips speak for themselves. Stewart's act can be fairly lazy: The funny comes from the research and editing that happens before the show goes live.

― Casuistry (Chris P), Friday, 4 November 2005 20:21 (twenty years ago)

Anybody catch the Al Sharpton interview tonight? That one got sorta ... awkward.

― Lukas (lukas), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 04:52 (twenty years ago)

al doesn't have much of a sense of humor.

― stockholm cindy is in your extended network (Jody Beth Rosen), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 04:54 (twenty years ago)

he was no match for a truthocution

― tokyo nursery school: afternoon session (rosemary), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 04:58 (twenty years ago)

an upside down truthikaze

― stockholm cindy is in your extended network (Jody Beth Rosen), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 04:59 (twenty years ago)

Yes, I believe that this show will survive. It's consistently funny, Stephen's character remains true to form, the set is fabulous, the graphics are engaging and, best of all, like The Daily Show, The Colbert Report attracts really good guests. He interacts with them in an intentionally different style than Jon Stewart interacts with his. For while Stweart generally treats his guests with humor and respect, Colbert is almost invariably confrontational, which gives his guests the splendid opportunity to express their views with an entuhsiastic rebuttal. As long as the guest understands the trick, he or she will invariably come out on top.

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― Jeffrey Rabbit, Sunday, 20 November 2005 12:21 (twenty years ago)

Colbert is almost invariably confrontational, which gives his guests the splendid opportunity to express their views with an entuhsiastic rebuttal.

Yeah, I noticed that when Bob Kerrey was on this week. Colbert deliberately set up recent talking points one-by-one for Bob to knock 'em all down.

― kingfish hobo juckie (kingfish 2.0), Sunday, 20 November 2005 19:49 (twenty years ago)

Jon Stewart doesn't play a character in his interviews. (SC to Tim Robbins: "What's it like working with Clint Eastwood, and why do you hate the troops?" Alas Colbert doesn't keep the mask on all the time.)

Incredibly enough, I'm convinced a significant chunk of Colbert's viewers don't get the joke, if the studio audience is any indication. His apex was the "Rosa Parks: Overrated" bit -- TRUE satire -- and they started to hoot distressingly. Idiots.

― Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Monday, 21 November 2005 14:22 (twenty years ago)

i'm utterly infatuated with "better know a district."

― j b everlovin' r (Jody Beth Rosen), Tuesday, 22 November 2005 04:55 (twenty years ago)

whoa. did thursday's show have a Descendents ref during The Word? Where it lists Stephen getting a "1430" on the Sexy Aptitude Test?

― kingfish hobo juckie (kingfish 2.0), Wednesday, 23 November 2005 05:10 (twenty years ago)

man, my guy Mark Udall was embarassing on the District segment last week. disappointing.

this show is so much fun to watch!

― lemin (lemin), Wednesday, 23 November 2005 05:33 (twenty years ago)

i like this show now. at first i was like, "eh"... but now i'm like... "yeah#111~!"

the interviews still play out really freakin weird. but the WORD is generally awesome. threatdown is freakin great. etc. it's little things like the grizzly bear hate speech and stuff...

m.

― msp (mspa), Wednesday, 23 November 2005 05:46 (twenty years ago)

I think this might be growing on me.

― Thermo Thinwall (Thermo Thinwall), Wednesday, 23 November 2005 05:59 (twenty years ago)

"i have put every part of canada on notice except nunavut."

― j b everlovin' r (Jody Beth Rosen), Wednesday, 23 November 2005 06:36 (twenty years ago)

I noticed last week that the Toronto Raptors were on notice, which had me roffling.

― Thermo Thinwall (Thermo Thinwall), Wednesday, 23 November 2005 06:48 (twenty years ago)

Tim Robbins seemed quite entertained by it all

― kingfish hobo juckie (kingfish 2.0), Wednesday, 23 November 2005 06:51 (twenty years ago)

omg katrina vanden roffle is going to be the guest on my birthday!

― j b everlovin' r (Jody Beth Rosen), Wednesday, 23 November 2005 07:36 (twenty years ago)

Jon Stewart doesn't play a character in his interviews. (SC to Tim Robbins: "What's it like working with Clint Eastwood, and why do you hate the troops?" Alas Colbert doesn't keep the mask on all the time.)
Incredibly enough, I'm convinced a significant chunk of Colbert's viewers don't get the joke, if the studio audience is any indication. His apex was the "Rosa Parks: Overrated" bit -- TRUE satire -- and they started to hoot distressingly. Idiots.

-- Dr Morbius (wjwe...) (webmail), November 21st, 2005. (Dr Morbius)

OTM. I have a pretty moderate but right wing Republican friend who I watched the Colbert Report with. For whatever reason, I pointed out to him that it was an O'Reilly satire, and he'd never thought of that before. A couple days later he told me, "You know what, you were right! That's why there's the American flags everywhere and the eagles and stuff. It also explains why I like it."

Haha.

― Mickey (modestmickey), Wednesday, 23 November 2005 08:25 (twenty years ago)

Tim Robbins is apparently a rather humorless prick if you try to do a straight interview with him. *lack of surprise*

― Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 23 November 2005 14:19 (twenty years ago)

I really like the Colbert Report, and it's made the lack of polish/QA on the Daily Show stand out a lot more. I don't want to stay up for it but I do, invariably, every time. It is impossible to stay up for Jon Stewart and then NOT stay up for Colberyt at this point, which is something I didn't expect at ALL based on the first couple of broadcasts and the descriptions.

[I wonder if Al Sharpton was maybe a bit pissed since Stephen pretended to be him on the Daily Show when The Rev couldn't be bothered to show up.]

I can't help but be a little depressed, though, or maybe just angry, that it would appear that the only news you can get anymore that's actually honest, as opposed to "balanced," has to be couched in all this ridiculousness and irony to A) avoid being constantly attacked and protested B) get people to watch.

I mean I go see "Good Night, and Good Luck" only to come home and realize that the only people who are currently capable of taking our sitting administration to task for half the shit they pull are two comedians who air after 11pm. Every other tv journo has to censor themselves or pay lip service to shit like "intelligent design" while pulling a straight face. I suppose the question is: Is this perfectly appropriate for the sort of MSM culture we've made for ourselves, or is this really, really pathetic and a sign of America's downfall?

― TOMBOT, Wednesday, 23 November 2005 15:25 (twenty years ago)

Actually, as much as I liked the episode they aired last night - Colbert really got his facts wrong when he was going on about the softwood lumber dispute. I realize that this is "fake news" and giving a fuck about "facts" is quite silly - but this was when Colbert was explaining the facts behind the issue before he delivered his punchline. Silly but kinda irked me.

― Thermo Thinwall (Thermo Thinwall), Wednesday, 23 November 2005 15:37 (twenty years ago)

Getting the facts wrong (or skewing the facts) is part of the schtick, though, isn't it?

― David R. (popshots75`), Wednesday, 23 November 2005 15:55 (twenty years ago)

Sure, when it's facts most people already know.

― Thermo Thinwall (Thermo Thinwall), Wednesday, 23 November 2005 16:09 (twenty years ago)

Uh, it's part of the schtick for "real" broadcast journalism, too

― TOMBOT, Wednesday, 23 November 2005 16:13 (twenty years ago)

Ha haa!

― Thermo Thinwall (Thermo Thinwall), Wednesday, 23 November 2005 16:13 (twenty years ago)

[short & sweet x-post]

Tell that to the stand-in Rush LimbaughBot I heard spew a few days ago: he defended the helping friendly folks @ Wal-Mart against those nasty liberals because of this salient fact (and I sorta quote): "they sell quality goods at competitive prices." Nothing about the actual issues bandied about by anyone re: Wal-Mart shadiness; dude thinks that buying mondo-sized pickle jars for pennies a gherkin trumps any & all issues, and (of course) thinks you should believe the same thing. Unless you hate America.

But you're Canadian, aren't you, Thermo? YOU'RE ON NOTICE, FRENCHIE!

― David R. (popshots75`), Wednesday, 23 November 2005 16:16 (twenty years ago)

Zuit alros!

― Thermo Thinwall (Thermo Thinwall), Wednesday, 23 November 2005 16:24 (twenty years ago)

the conservatives are mad at wal-mart right cuz they don't force their employees to say 'merry christmas', lots of 'hillary used to be on the board of directors yknow' bandied about.

― j blount (papa la bas), Wednesday, 23 November 2005 16:27 (twenty years ago)

wal-mart is totally taking over. fortresses of domination! AH!
m.

― msp (mspa), Wednesday, 23 November 2005 16:32 (twenty years ago)

yeah, i'd noticed that Oreilly started his stupid "They're attacking Christmas" thing early this year. It reminded me of how much fun that the pastor of my parents' church made a mention of "even the institution of christmas is under attack" during the Christmas Eve services.

― kingfish hobo juckie (kingfish 2.0), Thursday, 24 November 2005 02:12 (twenty years ago)

Never thought I'd see a day when the g-factor of the electron would be discussed on a comedy show.

― MindInRewind (Barry Bruner), Wednesday, 30 November 2005 00:00 (twenty years ago)

Brian Greene did a good job!


...I still wince when Colbert stutters, stumbles, etc. Jon Stewart can shrug, laugh, and acknowledge his mistakes. Colbert has to stay in character, which makes lapses that much more jarring.

Still, getting funnier.

― giboyeux (skowly), Wednesday, 30 November 2005 00:05 (twenty years ago)

...I still wince when Colbert stutters, stumbles, etc. Jon Stewart can shrug, laugh, and acknowledge his mistakes. Colbert has to stay in character, which makes lapses that much more jarring.

that'll go away -- right now i'm sure it's a mixture of nerves, relative newness to the format, not being used to reading a teleprompter for such a long stretch.

he may flub a line occasionally, but he's no colin quinn.

― surf punks from arizona (Jody Beth Rosen), Wednesday, 30 November 2005 00:08 (twenty years ago)

remember, stewart was a little nervous when he started on TDS.

― surf punks from arizona (Jody Beth Rosen), Wednesday, 30 November 2005 00:09 (twenty years ago)

I HATE COLIN QUINN.

― giboyeux (skowly), Wednesday, 30 November 2005 00:09 (twenty years ago)

All right-thinking and intelligent people hate Colin Quinn.

― Dan (Proven By SCIENCE) Perry (Dan Perry), Wednesday, 30 November 2005 00:12 (twenty years ago)

Score!

― giboyeux (skowly), Wednesday, 30 November 2005 00:12 (twenty years ago)

Colbert wasn't hard enough on that physicist.

― walter kranz (walterkranz), Wednesday, 30 November 2005 00:13 (twenty years ago)

!!!!!

― like a circle in a spiral, like a wheel within a wheel (Jody Beth Rosen), Wednesday, 30 November 2005 04:54 (twenty years ago)

that was a pretty funny interview. is that guy a hack pseudo-scientist?

― Super Cub (Debito), Wednesday, 30 November 2005 04:58 (twenty years ago)

a very wealthy one.

― like a circle in a spiral, like a wheel within a wheel (Jody Beth Rosen), Wednesday, 30 November 2005 04:59 (twenty years ago)

That John Stewart interview with Peggy Noonan was pretty pathetic. J.S. can be a real wussy sometimes.

― Super Cub (Debito), Wednesday, 30 November 2005 05:10 (twenty years ago)

Wasn't there a smallpox scare on "ER" a couple of years ago?

"Doctors wouldn't even know what they were looking at" is exactly what a guy with a Ph.D. in English would say when commenting about infectious disease. Fortunately, Colbert pwned him with that "I think they'd crack open a book" comment.

― MindInRewind (Barry Bruner), Wednesday, 30 November 2005 06:05 (twenty years ago)

Ha ha, that was great! "If I had a black tube sock hanging out of my anus, I think they'd crack a book."

― walter kranz (walterkranz), Wednesday, 30 November 2005 07:03 (twenty years ago)

"i've never been to detroit, but i have seen the movie mahogany."

― like a circle in a spiral, like a wheel within a wheel (Jody Beth Rosen), Thursday, 1 December 2005 06:46 (twenty years ago)

"i watched brit hume tonight. the man is a GIANT."

― like a circle in a spiral, like a wheel within a wheel (Jody Beth Rosen), Thursday, 1 December 2005 06:54 (twenty years ago)

Richard Clarke looked like he was having quite a time trying to keep a straight face(and failing)

― kingfish trampycakes (kingfish 2.0), Wednesday, 7 December 2005 07:40 (twenty years ago)

Colbert on Fresh Air today

― kingfish trampycakes (kingfish 2.0), Thursday, 8 December 2005 04:51 (twenty years ago)

If you close your eyes and listen to Peggy Noonan, you'll swear it's Pat Stevens. Thank you.

― D.I.Y. U.N.K.L.E. (dave225.3), Saturday, 10 December 2005 02:40 (twenty years ago)

one month passes...
hahaha!

― 2 columbus circle in 1964 (Jody Beth Rosen), Wednesday, 11 January 2006 04:34 (twenty years ago)

found out recently that a friend of mine works on this.

― hstencil (hstencil), Wednesday, 11 January 2006 04:36 (twenty years ago)

Colbert has the best finger in show business.

― David R. (popshots75`), Wednesday, 11 January 2006 05:34 (twenty years ago)

ooh, i like him when he gets cross.

― 2 columbus circle in 1964 (Jody Beth Rosen), Wednesday, 11 January 2006 05:37 (twenty years ago)

I could watch him wag forever.

― David R. (popshots75`), Wednesday, 11 January 2006 05:41 (twenty years ago)

The part of the opener where he stands glaring up at the lens as they rotate the camera 180° around him, and instead of having him on a turntable or just faux-rotating the background graphics he actually twists at the waist all the way around from one side to the other: I am briefly mesmerized by that shit every single time.

We only watched as far as the Van Zandt chitchat last night. Completely brilliant.

― TOMBOT, Wednesday, 11 January 2006 15:26 (twenty years ago)

"The Word" has become my favorite bit, especially the entreaties to Charlene.

― kingfish pibb Xtra (kingfish 2.0), Wednesday, 11 January 2006 15:51 (twenty years ago)

three weeks pass...
media hits:

Newsweek bit here and here

also, no one has mentioned the great Onion interview. I really like his comments on authority:

The whole idea of authority—authoritarian is fine for some people, like people who say "Listen to me, and just don't question, and do what I say, and everything will be fine"—the sort of thing we really started to respond to so well after 9/11. 'Cause we wanted someone to be daddy, to take decisions away from us. I really have a sense of [America's current leaders] doing bad things in our name to protect us, and that was okay. We weren't thrilled with Bush because we thought he was a good guy at that point, we were thrilled with him because we thought that he probably had hired people who would fuck up our enemies, regardless of how they had to do it. That was for us a very good thing, and I can't argue with the validity of that feeling.

But that has been extended to the idea that authoritarian is better than authority. Because authoritarian means there's only one authority, and that authority has got to be the President, has got to be the government, and has got to be his allies. What the right-wing in the United States tries to do is undermine the press. They call the press "liberal," they call the press "biased," not necessarily because it is or because they have problems with the facts of the left—or even because of the bias for the left, because it's hard not to be biased in some way, everyone is always going to enter their editorial opinion—but because a press that has validity is a press that has authority. And as soon as there's any authority to what the press says, you question the authority of the government—it's like the existence of another authority. So that's another part of truthiness. Truthiness is "What I say is right, and [nothing] anyone else says could possibly be true." It's not only that I feel it to be true, but that I feel it to be true. There's not only an emotional quality, but there's a selfish quality.

― kingfish has gene rayburn's mic (kingfish 2.0), Sunday, 5 February 2006 19:57 (twenty years ago)

SC: Status is always ripe for satire, status is always good for comedy. And they have the highest possible status—and that's what we've tried to amplify with everything on the show. Everything on the show has my name on it, every bit of the set. One of the things I said to the set designer—who has done everything, I mean even Meet The Press, he does that level of news design—was "One of your inspirations should be [DaVinci's painting] The Last Supper." All the architecture of that room points at Jesus' head, the entire room is a halo, and he doesn't have a halo." And I said, "On the set, I'd like the lines of the set to converge on my head." And so if you look at the design, it all does, it all points at my head. And even radial lines on the floor, and on my podium, and watermarks in the images behind me, and all the vertices, are right behind my head. So there's a sort of sun-god burst quality about the set around me. And I love that. That's status.

We just try everything we can to pump up my status on the show. There are no televisions behind me, like the way [NBC Nightly News anchor] Brian Williams has, or even [Daily Show host] Jon [Stewart]. At certain angles, there are monitors behind Jon that have the world going on, which implies that that's where the news is, and that's where the information is, and the person in front of it is the conduit through which this information is given to you. But on my set, I said, "I don't want anything behind me, because I am the sun. It all comes from me. I'm not channeling anything. I am the source."

― jimmy loves maryann, jimmy wants to be her man (Jody Beth Rosen), Sunday, 5 February 2006 22:17 (twenty years ago)

wow...if that's top-of-his-head stuff, dude is way sharp

― Thomas Tallis (Tommy), Sunday, 5 February 2006 22:25 (twenty years ago)

I think he should appear higher than the person he interviews, so he'll look down a bit on the person; sould sit on a cushion or have a higher chair than the other guy, whaterver. Status!

― S. (Sébastien Chikara), Sunday, 5 February 2006 22:40 (twenty years ago)

"unleash nerd fury"

― having fun with stockholm cindy on stage (Jody Beth Rosen), Wednesday, 8 February 2006 04:33 (twenty years ago)

filliam h. muffman

― gypsy mothra (gypsy mothra), Friday, 10 February 2006 06:47 (twenty years ago)

Yes! Weehawken on Better Know a District!

― tokyo nursery school: afternoon session (rosemary), Wednesday, 22 February 2006 04:50 (twenty years ago)

soooo cute

― tokyo nursery school: afternoon session (rosemary), Wednesday, 22 February 2006 04:55 (twenty years ago)

i'll fight you for him

― i always wondered where my mandibula was! (Jody Beth Rosen), Wednesday, 22 February 2006 04:57 (twenty years ago)

he's MINE

― tokyo nursery school: afternoon session (rosemary), Wednesday, 22 February 2006 04:58 (twenty years ago)

Ladies, ladies! I already have him in my basement, in a leather mask and diaper.

― pixel farmer (Rock Hardy), Wednesday, 22 February 2006 05:01 (twenty years ago)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Colbert_Report_miscellania

― kingfish has gene rayburn's mic (kingfish 2.0), Wednesday, 22 February 2006 05:19 (twenty years ago)

he has a graphic up of an OWL

― the bitchy guy in the pince-nez from the old films (Jody Beth Rosen), Thursday, 23 February 2006 04:45 (twenty years ago)

whoa. Him getting David Brooks all-a-flustered over the port thing, not bad.

― kingfish has gene rayburn's mic (kingfish 2.0), Wednesday, 1 March 2006 05:04 (twenty years ago)

My favorite thing EVER on the Colbert Report was that inexplicable (to me, as it started while I was out of the room) sequence where they played some OMDesque song, sung by Stephen, about a girl named Charlene and had a music video and everything.

― Allyzay Rofflesberger (allyzay), Wednesday, 1 March 2006 14:52 (twenty years ago)

Every time I see you I think of you
Every time I'm near you I think of you
I think of you when I dream of you
When I'm taking pictures of you
I think of you when I'm in a blimp looking down from up above you
You know I'm missing you
My mind is kissing you
I'm right behind you now Charlene
Waiting, watching oh so close
I'm right behind you now Charlene
You'll never be alone again
No

vid here

― kingfish has gene rayburn's mic (kingfish 2.0), Wednesday, 1 March 2006 14:55 (twenty years ago)

The thing I laughed the most at was when he started laughing/giggling/tittering over the whole Filliam H. Muffman thing.

― Øystein (Øystein), Wednesday, 1 March 2006 14:56 (twenty years ago)

Ed. Has never. Seen. The Colberrrrr Reporrrrrr.

I aim to rectify this as soon as he can get some eps on the d_l.

― suzy (suzy), Wednesday, 1 March 2006 14:57 (twenty years ago)

My favorite thing EVER on the Colbert Report was that inexplicable (to me, as it started while I was out of the room) sequence where they played some OMDesque song, sung by Stephen, about a girl named Charlene and had a music video and everything.

he totally reminded me of lloyd cole there:

http://www.legrandmix.com/groupes/images/2002/lloydcole.jpg

― Autonomous University of Zacatecas (Jody Beth Rosen), Wednesday, 1 March 2006 16:49 (twenty years ago)

yeah OTM!! The SCARF he was wearing...

― Allyzay Rofflesberger (allyzay), Wednesday, 1 March 2006 17:08 (twenty years ago)

That's a tie, innit?

― Jimmy Mod: The Prettiest Flower In The Pond (The Famous Jimmy Mod), Wednesday, 1 March 2006 17:10 (twenty years ago)

It looked more scarfy to me, with the billowiness, but I'll concede to it being a tie if necessary.

― Allyzay Rofflesberger (allyzay), Wednesday, 1 March 2006 17:17 (twenty years ago)

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/f/fd/Colbert_Music_Video.JPG

Judge for yourselves

― kingfish has gene rayburn's mic (kingfish 2.0), Wednesday, 1 March 2006 17:55 (twenty years ago)

Totally a scarf.

― Allyzay Rofflesberger (allyzay), Wednesday, 1 March 2006 17:56 (twenty years ago)

Yeah, that's a Tuxedo Mask scarf all the way. There's also something so Richard Marx about that styling.

― suzy (suzy), Wednesday, 1 March 2006 17:58 (twenty years ago)

also, the moussed-up, blown-dry hair, the eyeliner, the boots with ripped jeans tucked into them.

― kingfish has gene rayburn's mic (kingfish 2.0), Wednesday, 1 March 2006 17:59 (twenty years ago)

that building makes it look like it was shot in a "shitty" section of Wildwood NJ.

― Allyzay Rofflesberger (allyzay), Wednesday, 1 March 2006 18:02 (twenty years ago)

Can't find a picture, but I thought he was lookin' like John Waite.

― Dave will do (dave225.3), Wednesday, 1 March 2006 19:10 (twenty years ago)

right
http://www.musicmerchant.com/07777172271.jpg

― Dave will do (dave225.3), Wednesday, 1 March 2006 19:18 (twenty years ago)

Is he going to be able to pull this off for an extended period?

well, i guess we found out the answer to this questions, huh?

― kingfish has gene rayburn's mic (kingfish 2.0), Wednesday, 1 March 2006 19:45 (twenty years ago)

i still heart him, he has a noticeable fan club amongst ladies born in '76 I must say

― drunkyrosemary (maura), Thursday, 2 March 2006 07:59 (twenty years ago)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DNd_XrFDFX4

missed that one

― hiphopketball, Thursday, 2 March 2006 08:17 (twenty years ago)

http://msnbcmedia.msn.com/j/msnbc/Sections/Newsweek/Components/Photos/Mag/060213_Issue/060204_ColbertGoodNight_hsmall.standard.jpg

from the recent Newsweek hit

― kingfish da notorious teletabby (kingfish 2.0), Friday, 3 March 2006 22:12 (twenty years ago)

cute bit from that article:

Colbert, 41, hardly acts like a wanna-be power player. He keeps one of his "Daily Show" Emmys in his office, but he hasn't bothered to attach the plaque with his name on it. Much more precious are his "Lord of the Rings" pinball machine and his photograph of Viggo Mortensen, etched in chocolate. "It's all edible—it's fantastic," he says. "I'm a huge, huge geek. I played Dungeons and Dragons the first week it came out."

― kingfish da notorious teletabby (kingfish 2.0), Friday, 3 March 2006 22:17 (twenty years ago)

and now i've realized i just linked to an article I've already linked to upthread.

sometimes this ADD shit is bothersome.

― kingfish da notorious teletabby (kingfish 2.0), Friday, 3 March 2006 22:21 (twenty years ago)

"our wands have the same piece of phoenix tail"!! k-bril.

on the other hand, he was astonishingly off form last night -- must've flubbed a word every six or so lines.

also, while we're at it, natalie portman on the daily show -- seems like the only thing she has going is this "omg yr so funny i'm adorable how amused i am by you" infectious giggle thing.

― Sterling Clover (s_clover), Thursday, 16 March 2006 04:50 (twenty years ago)

and now he has a book deal, too

― kingfish da notorious teletabby (kingfish 2.0), Tuesday, 21 March 2006 22:48 (twenty years ago)

"bobby" the "stage manager" is such a cutie!

― s/c (Jody Beth Rosen), Wednesday, 22 March 2006 04:43 (twenty years ago)

"jimmy, where's my face???"

― s/c (Jody Beth Rosen), Wednesday, 22 March 2006 04:45 (twenty years ago)

Two of The Word segments last week totally blew.

― Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 22 March 2006 15:55 (twenty years ago)

"what are tunnels but underground gun barrels that shoot mexicans at us?"

― chillaxing damsel on box art (Jody Beth Rosen), Thursday, 30 March 2006 03:46 (twenty years ago)

Heckuva job, Brownie.

― Casuistry (Chris P), Thursday, 30 March 2006 03:55 (twenty years ago)

i had no idea what to make of that interview.

― Sterling Clover (s_clover), Thursday, 30 March 2006 04:30 (twenty years ago)

It certainly didn't make me think Brownie was qualified for the job.

― Casuistry (Chris P), Thursday, 30 March 2006 04:34 (twenty years ago)

it was just strange massive disturbing awkwardness all around which is its own sort of funny. like more friendly and more hard hitting all at once and mainly i was just thinking "christ, this guy has hit rock bottom and has nothing to recoup and has no idea what to do with himself. his career is essentially thru, and he's smiling, but he knows it too."

― Sterling Clover (s_clover), Thursday, 30 March 2006 04:47 (twenty years ago)

I was surprised when Colbert announced it the night before. And I kept assuming it would be some other Michael Brown and Colbert would treat him as if he were the "real" Michael Brown. But no.

Brownie's in a world of denial.

― Casuistry (Chris P), Thursday, 30 March 2006 04:50 (twenty years ago)

yeah that smile was painful to watch. My only question was why would he subject himself to that with next to nothing to say for himself, no spin, no saavy, not even a b.s. play at redemption, just nervous giggles. At least take Chertoff down with you! make yourself useful, you big feckless sack.

― tremendoid (tremendoid), Thursday, 30 March 2006 05:56 (twenty years ago)

i saw this show for the first tim at a bar last night. the sound was off, but captions were on. it was very very funny (as was Chappelles show (rerun)). i miss cable/comedy central :(

― AaronK (AaronK), Thursday, 30 March 2006 12:56 (twenty years ago)

I didn't know what to make of the Brown interview either. It was kind of uncomfortable to watch in a way.

― Thermo Thinwall (Thermo Thinwall), Thursday, 30 March 2006 15:11 (twenty years ago)

I should add that I'm happy that I didn't know what to make of it. That's a good move for the show, I think.

― Casuistry (Chris P), Thursday, 30 March 2006 16:32 (twenty years ago)

"what are tunnels but underground gun barrels that shoot mexicans at us?"
-- chillaxing damsel on box art (theundergroundhom...) (webmail), Yesterday 10:46 PM. (Jody Beth Rosen) (later)

hilarious

― sunny successor (katharine), Thursday, 30 March 2006 16:47 (twenty years ago)

They were showing an old episode of "Battle of the Network Stars" on ESPN's "Cold Pizza" the other day. Two contestants were running through an obstacle course that featured a tunnel, leading one of the commentators to state "Since when has a tunnel been considered an obstacle? If anything, it helps you get past an obstacle."

― Pleasant Plains /// (Pleasant Plains ///), Thursday, 30 March 2006 17:28 (twenty years ago)

three weeks pass...
ok ts "Charlene" vs Stephen pretending to be a "nubian princess"

― Allyzay Rofflesbot (allyzay), Friday, 21 April 2006 13:33 (twenty years ago)

I AM full figured!

― TOMBOT (TOMBOT), Friday, 21 April 2006 13:39 (twenty years ago)

i saw mr jellineck (paul dinello) on the colbert report last night! is he a regular?

― sunny successor (katharine), Tuesday, 25 April 2006 18:02 (twenty years ago)

He's made small appearances before, including either the first or second episode of the show.

― The Yellow Kid, Tuesday, 25 April 2006 18:37 (twenty years ago)

OMG Nubian Princess OMG.

Last night's Daily Show "Fuck you, Earth" bit came off as a weird rip-off of the Colbert Report.

― Casuistry (Chris P), Tuesday, 25 April 2006 18:40 (twenty years ago)

i saw mr jellineck (paul dinello) on the colbert report last night! is he a regular?

i think he writes for the show as well.

― GOD PUNCH TO HAWKWIND (yournullfame), Tuesday, 25 April 2006 23:38 (twenty years ago)

"Ric, is there anyone you want to put on notice?"

"Todd Rundgren?"

"I think we've got him in there"

― LOL Thomas (Chris Barrus), Thursday, 27 April 2006 13:23 (twenty years ago)

that was great.

― GOD PUNCH TO BLACKBERRY AND I'LL TAKE YR EMAIL (yournullfame), Friday, 28 April 2006 01:51 (twenty years ago)

Last night's Daily Show "Fuck you, Earth" bit came off as a weird rip-off of the Colbert Report.

No way! Stewart's been doing that kinda thing periodically long before TCR, and the writing style's different. More PO'd boyfriend than self-righteous wingnut.

Did I catch a glimpse of Colbert doing something with the NY Post's hateful Page One on the Dubya-Hu meeting, "WOK THIS WAY"?

― Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Friday, 28 April 2006 12:23 (twenty years ago)

It was a little sad how he effortlessly pwn3d Harris the other night. Then again I don't really expect much from somebody still writing books about how atheism is cool in the 21st century to put up much of an argument, much less compete with any charismatic presence. Kristol last night was a bit confusing. Is this guy a malicious dickface or not?

I'm also still chuckling over "Flad Bagazine, Jon?"

― TOMBOT (TOMBOT), Friday, 28 April 2006 12:35 (twenty years ago)

Kristol is a self-aware malicious dickface. He always ends up apologizing for his own ideas; I've seen him get pwned much worse, Colbert couldn't seem to get any traction on him.

― tremendoid (tremendoid), Friday, 28 April 2006 13:46 (twenty years ago)

That's the thing, I didn't think SC was trying to get any traction with him, they just kept interrupting each other and pausing and interrupting each other, like neither of them knew where they were supposed to be going at all.

― TOMBOT (TOMBOT), Friday, 28 April 2006 13:51 (twenty years ago)

oh I think Colbert nailed him pretty good on the New American Century thing (esp. when Kristol tried to make out like Rumsfeld wasn't really one of them)

― Shakey Mo Collier (Shakey Mo Collier), Friday, 28 April 2006 15:11 (twenty years ago)

Kristol reminds me of the smug, rich right-wing kids at bar mitzvahs when I was a young un - the ones who fetishized the Israeli military and thought it was funny to play "pranks" on the waitstaff.

― Shakey Mo Collier (Shakey Mo Collier), Friday, 28 April 2006 15:18 (twenty years ago)

the kristol interview was weird. the harris one, though, i didn't think the guy came off that badly. colbert gave him a couple of long stretches to lay out his thesis, which wasn't a bad one. i don't think he's arguing for atheism, just less religion in politics. and colbert's "but the bible is different, it's the BIBLE" shtick wasn't supposed to be pwning harris, it was supposed to be showing up the tautological thinness of religious arguments. not that i'm gonna go buy harris' book, but i'm kind of glad it's on the bestseller list.

― gypsy mothra (gypsy mothra), Friday, 28 April 2006 16:10 (twenty years ago)

yes I understand that Stephen Colbert was being ironic on his tv show on the comedy channel.

harris came off like a stooge, though.

― TOMBOT (TOMBOT), Friday, 28 April 2006 16:15 (twenty years ago)

"oh I think Colbert nailed him pretty good on the New American Century thing"

OTM! I actually thought he was toying with him. Like he was such an easy target that he wasn't even worth bothering with. I can never get over how slow people like Kristol seem sometimes. They really don't seem used to talking to people who are quick on their feet. During some of those interviews with Colbert you can actually see people wake up a little! They've been snoozing and repeating their own bullshit for so long that they forget that they still have a brain.

― scott seward (scott seward), Friday, 28 April 2006 18:02 (twenty years ago)

vid of Kristol on the show

― kingfish, Friday, 28 April 2006 18:10 (twenty years ago)

They really don't seem used to talking to people who are quick on their feet

Not while they're getting booked by the Foxbots, Tim Russert and Tucker Carlson, no.

― Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Friday, 28 April 2006 18:12 (twenty years ago)

i think that's one of my favorite interviews. he was actually pretty relentless.

― scott seward (scott seward), Friday, 28 April 2006 18:27 (twenty years ago)

totally... come on, how more nailed can you get in an interview when you end up having to reassure the viewing audience that you don't actually beat your wife?

― s1ocki (slutsky), Friday, 28 April 2006 19:05 (twenty years ago)

haha - oh man I forgot about that line, that was awesome.

― Shakey Mo Collier (Shakey Mo Collier), Friday, 28 April 2006 19:12 (twenty years ago)

harris came off like a stooge, though.

seriously, why do you say this? it all sounded like normal common-sense stuff, he wasn't confrontational about it. maybe we need a separate thread on him (altho that might require somebody reading the book, which is more work than i'm gonna do), but i'm curious about this response to him.

― gypsy mothra (gypsy mothra), Friday, 28 April 2006 19:15 (twenty years ago)

(i mean, saying colbert pwned him is weird, because i didn't at all get the sense that colbert was trying to pwn him -- as opposed to the kristol interview.)

― gypsy mothra (gypsy mothra), Friday, 28 April 2006 19:16 (twenty years ago)

"respectful silence"

cuet

― sunny successor (katharine), Tuesday, 2 May 2006 04:49 (twenty years ago)

i love that right before colbert introduced this huckabee weight-loss guru, comedy central showed a commercial for http://www.fourthmeal.com/.

― jbr with a z (Jody Beth Rosen), Wednesday, 3 May 2006 04:56 (twenty years ago)

i know, the first time i saw that fourth meal ad it was like a whole new front had opened in the war on obesity. clever devils.

― gypsy mothra (gypsy mothra), Wednesday, 3 May 2006 06:04 (twenty years ago)

Helen Thomas + red rain coat = end of Don't Look Now.

― tokyo nursery school: afternoon session (rosemary), Wednesday, 3 May 2006 12:23 (twenty years ago)

I was so proud of Huck last night. Except for maybe one or two too many self-deprecating fat jokes at the beginning, he didn't come off as awkward unlike 99% of Colbert's other guests who put too much effort into playing along. Good job, Bee!

― sunny successor (katharine), Wednesday, 3 May 2006 12:58 (twenty years ago)

http://americablog.blogspot.com/uploaded_images/colbertdrudge-743148.jpg

oh noes!

― kingfish doesn't live here anymore (kingfish 2.0), Wednesday, 3 May 2006 14:15 (twenty years ago)

Helen Thomas + red rain coat = end of Don't Look Now.

terrifyingly OTM!!!

― GOD PUNCH TO HAWKWIND (yournullfame), Wednesday, 3 May 2006 14:16 (twenty years ago)

hi, yournullfame!

― Tracey Hand (tracerhand), Wednesday, 3 May 2006 14:20 (twenty years ago)

Matt has a new crush!

― The Mercury Krueger (Ex Leon), Wednesday, 3 May 2006 14:22 (twenty years ago)

this huckabee weight-loss guru...

Haha.

― Pleasant Plains /// (Pleasant Plains ///), Wednesday, 3 May 2006 15:23 (twenty years ago)

The reporting/crit (all lining up along the "we're not worthy" end of the spectrum) of Colbert's dinner theatre in Britain might just be the tipping point for getting the whole DS/CR hour shown here, FINALLY.

― suzy (suzy), Wednesday, 3 May 2006 15:32 (twenty years ago)

dont you get the global version of the daily show on cnn? i used to get it in australia 3am sunday mornings.

― sunny successor (katharine), Wednesday, 3 May 2006 16:45 (twenty years ago)

We get the US version on More4, which is digital television.

― suzy (suzy), Wednesday, 3 May 2006 16:51 (twenty years ago)

Hey, they did my distrcit! Yay, Earl!

― Casuistry (Chris P), Friday, 5 May 2006 23:45 (twenty years ago)

Portland last night you mean? That dude was cool, he still got pwned without looking like a boob.

― tremendoid (tremendoid), Saturday, 6 May 2006 00:18 (twenty years ago)

Earl is totally cool. I have met him a few times.

Oregon is now 40% Colbertized. We lead the nation, at least until Wyoming's congressperson gets to it.

― Casuistry (Chris P), Saturday, 6 May 2006 00:47 (twenty years ago)

four weeks pass...
Commencement speech at Knox College

His suggestions for securing the U.S.-Mexico border went beyond walls to include moats, fiery moats and fiery moats with fire-proof crocodiles.

He added that the border with Canada also has to be secure so Canadians cannot bring their "skunky beer" into the country. He backed English as the official language of the United States — “God wrote (the Bible) in English for a reason: So it could be taught in our public schools.”

― kingfish doesn't live here anymore (kingfish 2.0), Monday, 5 June 2006 14:43 (nineteen years ago)

"Don't go to Europe to find yourself. Who told you were over there anyway? You're far more likely to leave yourself there along with some electronic equipment that gets stolen at a youth hostel in Paris on your last night there. Of course, you wanted to leave the night before, but, no, your friend Ted wanted to go to that disco - Le Palace - where you had to pay $18 a cocktail. Eighteen dollars! And you're buying these Danish girls drinks all night because Ted is so certain you're going to get some action even though the girls keep chatting up these French bastards. Ted is such a fool! So finally you say fuck this noise and you leave. But then you get back to your hostel and your backpack is stolen along with your Walkman and your Siouxsie and the Banshees tapes. So you wait up all night for Ted because you just want to catch the first train the hell out of there. But he doesn't even breeze in until 9 a.m. and they close the hostel at 8. You're kicked out on the street. Turns out he hooked up with some girl and they were so drunk they crashed with these Arab guys who live over by that Jim Morrison cemetery. It's just ridiculous. I didn't get any action all summer. Bottom line: There's nothing in Europe you can’t see here. One word: Epcot."

― LOL Thomas (Chris Barrus), Friday, 9 June 2006 17:40 (nineteen years ago)

"Global warming: we've adapted to worse. [Feminism]"

― Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Friday, 9 June 2006 18:55 (nineteen years ago)

Ah, I posted this in the WH Press Correspondents thread -- forgot there was an original Colbert thread. My girlfriend went to Knox and had plans to go to this but unfortunately wasn't able to.

― jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 9 June 2006 18:59 (nineteen years ago)

Full text of speech

― jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 9 June 2006 19:01 (nineteen years ago)

did anyone see dr stc on letterman last night? i missed it. STW talk?

― sunny successor (katharine), Thursday, 15 June 2006 13:24 (nineteen years ago)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zkp2vTvWHvo&search=letterman

― A Giant Mechanical Ant (The Giant Mechanical Ant), Thursday, 15 June 2006 13:37 (nineteen years ago)

Letterman's has a thing for Amy at least as bad as Colbert's Charlene obsession.

― GILLY'S BAGG'EAR VANCE OF COUPARI (Ex Leon), Thursday, 15 June 2006 14:46 (nineteen years ago)

That mighta been the best Better Know a District yet.

"What are the Ten Commandments?"

"You want me to name em? Ummm... Don't ... kill..."

(where ARE the aides who know the show??)

― Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 15 June 2006 15:06 (nineteen years ago)

Yes, that was great.

― GILLY'S BAGG'EAR VANCE OF COUPARI (Ex Leon), Thursday, 15 June 2006 15:16 (nineteen years ago)

ATTENTION NED RAGGETT

tonight's guest is our old buddy GUSTAVO FREAKIN' ARELLANO!!!!1`1

he was a little nervous and hyper but he did okay

that is all

― Haikunym (Haikunym), Tuesday, 20 June 2006 04:24 (nineteen years ago)

BEYOND cool. :-D

Oddly enough I just tried contacting him the other day about something! I hope to hear back. ;-)

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 20 June 2006 04:29 (nineteen years ago)

"I didn't follow any of that. Are you speaking Spanish right now?"

― Marmot 4-Tay (marmotwolof), Tuesday, 20 June 2006 04:55 (nineteen years ago)

three weeks pass...
Stephen Colbert on Coanan tonight talked about D&D alot, about meeting GARY GYGAX and balrogs n shit!

― Moonwalkbjrain (chaki), Thursday, 13 July 2006 07:09 (nineteen years ago)

He knew the picture of a balrog was from a 1977 Tolkien calendar!

― GILLY'S BAGG'EAR VANCE OF COUPARI (Ex Leon), Thursday, 13 July 2006 11:49 (nineteen years ago)

I hope that last night's trifecta of Julian Bond becoming Stephen's new black friend, Rep. Wexler saying cocaine and prostitutes are probably even more fun when you do them together, and getting zinged by Tom Brokaw isn't the high water mark. Holy shit, though.

― TOMBOT (TOMBOT), Friday, 21 July 2006 15:56 (nineteen years ago)

oh damn, and we were so close to being in the audience last night!

― tehresa needs more out of this relationship than she's willing to put in (tehres, Friday, 21 July 2006 16:02 (nineteen years ago)

yeah Brokaw actually caught Colbert off-guard a couple times

― Shakey Mo Collier (Shakey Mo Collier), Friday, 21 July 2006 16:08 (nineteen years ago)

Wexler was incredible.

― polyphonic (polyphonic), Friday, 21 July 2006 16:09 (nineteen years ago)

I came into the office today saying that last night's episode was the best ever. Then, of course, I remembered the Amy Sedaris "interview"/gymnastics exhibition. Now I'm torn.

― Haikunym (Haikunym), Friday, 21 July 2006 16:11 (nineteen years ago)

Y'know, they've been able to pull off two of these shows. I'm kinda curious what anybody at Comedy Central or the TDS/TCR offices could come up with expanding into a 3rd show.

― kingfish cyclopean ice cream (kingfish 2.0), Friday, 21 July 2006 16:22 (nineteen years ago)

What a terrible suggestion to put on a board where it is probable that at least some of the staff of the show lurks.

― Allyzay will never stop making pancakes (allyzay), Friday, 21 July 2006 16:24 (nineteen years ago)

Oh cmon. With all the standard caveats and fears about over-expansion or doing too much, too quickly, I just think there is more they could do, even if they wind up building their own newsmedia arm.

― kingfish cyclopean ice cream (kingfish 2.0), Friday, 21 July 2006 16:28 (nineteen years ago)

where it is probable that at least some of the staff of the show lurks

So you're saying all-ILX guest studio audience sometime.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 21 July 2006 16:30 (nineteen years ago)

can we get free hats?

― kingfish cyclopean ice cream (kingfish 2.0), Friday, 21 July 2006 16:31 (nineteen years ago)

Samantha Bee could probably do an excellent all-field-reporting show. Like once a week, though, not 4x.

― TOMBOT (TOMBOT), Friday, 21 July 2006 16:31 (nineteen years ago)

I don't think they have anyone currently on the roster that would work as a stand alone. I could very well be surprised and I'd take Rob Corddry's Psuedo-Macho Not Exactly Carlson Tuckeresque But Kind Of Half Hour over Mind of Mencia or Drawn Again but it's still a terrible idea! How many sarcastic takes on the exact same news stories do people really need?

― Allyzay will never stop making pancakes (allyzay), Friday, 21 July 2006 16:31 (nineteen years ago)

So you're saying all-ILX guest studio audience sometime.

This is what ends up on "Untold Stories of the ER"

― TOMBOT (TOMBOT), Friday, 21 July 2006 16:32 (nineteen years ago)

What a terrible suggestion to put on a board where it is probable that at least some of the staff of the show lurks.

Uh, you're kidding, right?

― jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 21 July 2006 16:33 (nineteen years ago)

I think the main issue is there isn't currently another popular format out there for them to parody - the news show and the pundit show are covered, but what other sources do they have to go after?

― Shakey Mo Collier (Shakey Mo Collier), Friday, 21 July 2006 16:33 (nineteen years ago)

(I def suspect staff have lurked here at one time or another)

― Shakey Mo Collier (Shakey Mo Collier), Friday, 21 July 2006 16:34 (nineteen years ago)

what part do you think I am kidding about?

― Allyzay will never stop making pancakes (allyzay), Friday, 21 July 2006 16:34 (nineteen years ago)

because, rest assured, I, sir, am not a kidder.

― Allyzay will never stop making pancakes (allyzay), Friday, 21 July 2006 16:35 (nineteen years ago)

(x-post) Video blogs, probably. Admittedly Malkin's rants can't be made any unintentionally funnier than they are.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 21 July 2006 16:35 (nineteen years ago)

Except that they wouldn't nec. need to do it as a studio audience kinda-thing. As tombot mentions, a field reporting show with Samantha Bee or the Corddry Brothers would augment the stuff. Maybe that's what they're trying to do with the new Lewis Black show.

I'm just saying that I think there's other aspects of newsmedia they could take on, and in the process of doing the ersatz versions, outperform the MSM they ridicule.

― kingfish cyclopean ice cream (kingfish 2.0), Friday, 21 July 2006 16:35 (nineteen years ago)

Man, now I really wish i hadn't fallen asleep part way through last night :(

― Thermo Thinwall (Thermo Thinwall), Friday, 21 July 2006 16:39 (nineteen years ago)

Altho, the only other format i can immediately think of is the panel show, which only really worked once(Bill Maher) for a limited time, and two later attempts by two different crews both failed(Colin Quinn & Crossballs).

(half of the Crossballs folks were ex-TDS short-term correspondents.)

Would it be possible to pull off something with John Hodgeman in an expanded roll?

― kingfish cyclopean ice cream (kingfish 2.0), Friday, 21 July 2006 16:40 (nineteen years ago)

I wouldn't even say a field reporting special would be worth more than a monthly special. Not all of the field reports are actually funny, dudes. If they had to pull together a half hour a day/week of them I think you're gonna get a lot of absolute nonsense.

Also Colin Quinn is VERY terrible and we should never mention him again.

― Allyzay will never stop making pancakes (allyzay), Friday, 21 July 2006 16:41 (nineteen years ago)

I can't believe how much I agree with Ally today.

― Shakey Mo Collier (Shakey Mo Collier), Friday, 21 July 2006 16:43 (nineteen years ago)

Well, I think it's pretty hard to disagree on the topic of Colin Quinn, in fairness.

― Allyzay will never stop making pancakes (allyzay), Friday, 21 July 2006 16:44 (nineteen years ago)

I'll say. And didn't Denis Leary play his brother on Remote Control? Jeezum H.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 21 July 2006 16:47 (nineteen years ago)

You know what needs to happen, actually, is someone needs to punch David Spade's lights out and then replace HIM with one of TDS correspondents (current or ex) on the celebrity show. That would be a pretty good expansion.

― Allyzay will never stop making pancakes (allyzay), Friday, 21 July 2006 16:49 (nineteen years ago)

ooh i like the idea of that.

― tehresa needs more out of this relationship than she's willing to put in (tehres, Friday, 21 July 2006 16:50 (nineteen years ago)

Hmm. That's a pretty good idea, actually.

ARE YOU LISTENING, LURKING PRODUCTION ASSISTANTS AND OR STAFF WRITERS

― kingfish cyclopean ice cream (kingfish 2.0), Friday, 21 July 2006 16:52 (nineteen years ago)

Okay, what makes you think Colbert Report staff in particular have lurked on ILX? The fact that we have a thread about the show and they probably go through message boards to see what fans are saying?
(Cuz if so, wouldn't that be true of all TV shows or movies we talk about?) Or are you just saying, lots of folks lurk on ILX, so statistically it wouldn't be too surprising for anyone to be lurking?

― jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 21 July 2006 16:53 (nineteen years ago)

I've actually noticed that too. There's been a few instances where people have made jokes/observations on ile and that very night something very very VERY similar is said on either Stewart or Colbert. very.

― Thermo Thinwall (Thermo Thinwall), Friday, 21 July 2006 18:10 (nineteen years ago)

I haven't seen that UCB guy's 'mobile news unit' show, but I think CC has reached Saturation Point w/ news parodies. Enuff znuff.

― Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Friday, 21 July 2006 19:05 (nineteen years ago)

Jesus lurks on ILX all the fucking time. That Sermon on the Mount shit came straight from Momus.

― Jessie the Monster (scarymonsterrr), Friday, 21 July 2006 19:06 (nineteen years ago)

Yeah, I went with the paranoia thing too the first 17 times ppls made that claim until I heard Jon Stewart verbatim retell a joke I had read 5 hours ago on ILE. Coincidence? "Great" minds think alike? Or some staff writer is trolling the internet for jokes instead of doing his own work? They all seem pretty likely and it's not really a huge skip and a jump from, like, say, trying to track down information on some indie act (who, hell, might post here) to travelling over to ILE and grabbing something that hits yr fancy. It's only a "probably" but it doesn't really seem far-fetched as far as I can tell. I pepper all my posts with inanities and profanity though, just in case.

― Allyzay will never stop making pancakes (allyzay), Friday, 21 July 2006 19:11 (nineteen years ago)

"I've actually noticed that too. There's been a few instances where people have made jokes/observations on ile and that very night something very very VERY similar is said on either Stewart or Colbert. very."

yup yup - see the recent "it's getting hard out here for a pimp" bit

― Shakey Mo Collier (Shakey Mo Collier), Friday, 21 July 2006 19:12 (nineteen years ago)

The thing is that some of the instances are like either really obvious and/or verging on just being a meme so it's hard not to say, "Oh, c'mon, they coulda got that on like 18 different websites," but there have been some instances where I've been like, "OK, yeah, I read exactly those words a little bit ago" and they're quirky enough that it seems likely someone trolls here on occasion. Which, dude, whatever! I'm just surprised jaymc doesn't know this rumor because it's been talked about a bunch of times!

― Allyzay will never stop making pancakes (allyzay), Friday, 21 July 2006 19:15 (nineteen years ago)

I've never heard it, no! And I don't have cable, so I haven't actually ever seen The Colbert Report and only really see The Daily Show every now and then. Interesting, though.

― jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 21 July 2006 19:18 (nineteen years ago)

I'm going to copyright all my posts from now on.*

*©2006 Thermo Thinwall

― Thermo Thinwall (Thermo Thinwall), Friday, 21 July 2006 19:20 (nineteen years ago)

JON STEWART DON'T STEAL MY WORDS

STEPHEN COLBERT YOU ARE AUTHORIZED

― Allyzay will never stop making pancakes (allyzay), Friday, 21 July 2006 19:21 (nineteen years ago)

HELLO WHOEVER WRITES FOR JON STEWART - PLEASE GIVE US A SIGN ON MONDAYS SHOW TO LET US KNOW YOU'RE READING ILX! SOMEHTING ORIGINAL THAT ONLY WE COULD PICK OUT - LIKE HAVE JON TUG HIS EAR AT THE END OF SHOW. THAT SHOULD WORK.*

*©2006 Thermo Thinwall

― Thermo Thinwall (Thermo Thinwall), Friday, 21 July 2006 19:27 (nineteen years ago)

I think the main issue is there isn't currently another popular format out there for them to parody - the news show and the pundit show are covered, but what other sources do they have to go after?

There's the "investigative news magazine" format that Dateline, 48 Hours, and 20/20 do, but that overlaps with Daily Show sketches.

What really needs to be satirized are morning network newstainment shows. Today and Good Morning America have been on for too long without sustaining satiric damage. Samantha Bee as parody Katie Couric would be fantastic.

― Elvis Telecom (Chris Barrus), Friday, 21 July 2006 19:53 (nineteen years ago)

tugging the ear isn't obvious enough, maybe be could hongroize something

― zaxxon25 (zaxxon25), Friday, 21 July 2006 19:54 (nineteen years ago)

you'd need some kind of paternal, avuncular male in the other role. that or a flaming queen.

― Shakey Mo Collier (Shakey Mo Collier), Friday, 21 July 2006 19:55 (nineteen years ago)

(x-post)

― Shakey Mo Collier (Shakey Mo Collier), Friday, 21 July 2006 19:55 (nineteen years ago)

"And now our guest tonight, a guy who reads the almanac..."

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 21 July 2006 19:57 (nineteen years ago)

I had meant to suggest the investigative news magazine format but my message get eaten when i was poxy fuled.
The morning show thing is an even better idea, methinks. You'd have to show it in the morning tho - and I don't think anyone is in lol mode at 8am.*

*©2006 Thermo Thinwall

xpost!

― Thermo Thinwall (Thermo Thinwall), Friday, 21 July 2006 20:01 (nineteen years ago)

that or a flaming queen.

Well, Frank DeCaro hasn't been on the show in waht, 3-4 years?

― kingfish cyclopean ice cream (kingfish 2.0), Friday, 21 July 2006 20:10 (nineteen years ago)

TDS had a segment about stabbing hoboes. If that's not proof that there's a lurker on their staff, I don't know what else is.

― tokyo nursery school: afternoon session (rosemary), Friday, 21 July 2006 21:05 (nineteen years ago)

Unless that's some weird meme I'm unaware off.

― tokyo nursery school: afternoon session (rosemary), Friday, 21 July 2006 21:06 (nineteen years ago)

That's right! That's the one that really caught my attention.*

*©2006 Thermo Thinwall

― Thermo Thinwall (Thermo Thinwall), Friday, 21 July 2006 21:50 (nineteen years ago)

your jokes aren't original and get made on a billion messageboards. welcome to the internet.

― 333333333333 (33333), Friday, 21 July 2006 21:52 (nineteen years ago)

this is on the same level as the woman that thought letterman was sending her malicious secret messages encoded in his monologue.

― 333333333333 (33333), Friday, 21 July 2006 21:53 (nineteen years ago)

What really needs to be satirized are morning network newstainment shows. Today and Good Morning America have been on for too long without sustaining satiric damage. Samantha Bee as parody Katie Couric would be fantastic.

good day l.a.! but who would fill the jillian barberie role?

― Nunca Llueve (Jody Beth Rosen), Friday, 21 July 2006 21:56 (nineteen years ago)

Its not unfounded paranoia. Take for example, this thread: "I think things just got a little harder for a pimp.". The very next episode of the Colbert report featured a bit on this same news story (which, lets face it, is pretty minor and hardly of great national significance) and Colbert's opening line was the thread title verbatim.

The "stab a hobo" thing is even more suspect.

― Shakey Mo Collier (Shakey Mo Collier), Friday, 21 July 2006 22:00 (nineteen years ago)

do you want me to dig up an example of lord custom omicrom making a clinton joke the same night as leno did?

― 333333333333 (33333), Friday, 21 July 2006 22:03 (nineteen years ago)

yes.

― Shakey Mo Collier (Shakey Mo Collier), Friday, 21 July 2006 22:06 (nineteen years ago)

(altho obviously those subjects aren't even remotely comparable - since everybody makes jokes about Clinton, but not everybody makes jokes about stabbing hobos and pimping laws)

― Shakey Mo Collier (Shakey Mo Collier), Friday, 21 July 2006 22:09 (nineteen years ago)

now, we really can't claim credit for the jokes about knifing hobos, since even the Simpsons has made that one("Lord, I love the hobo life / stabbin' folks w/ my hobo knife")

― kingfish cyclopean ice cream (kingfish 2.0), Friday, 21 July 2006 22:16 (nineteen years ago)

wasn't gear the first ilxor to use the "knife a hobo" meme? and doesn't he write for tv? MAKES YA THINK

― Nunca Llueve (Jody Beth Rosen), Friday, 21 July 2006 22:20 (nineteen years ago)

i'm skeptical of trife's skepticism, but neither of those two examples do it for me

― gabbneb (gabbneb), Friday, 21 July 2006 22:21 (nineteen years ago)

i don't think trife is canadian, like 3333333 apparently is

― kingfish cyclopean ice cream (kingfish 2.0), Friday, 21 July 2006 22:26 (nineteen years ago)

yeh when hoboes come up, knives come up in about 85% of all comedic media depictions I've ever seen. 'Hard out there for a pimp' is the 'i wish i could quit you' of 2006
those could just bad examples, but I am unmoved.

― tremendoid (tremendoid), Friday, 21 July 2006 22:26 (nineteen years ago)

but the plight of pimps has been lamented for decades, hasn't it?

― kingfish cyclopean ice cream (kingfish 2.0), Friday, 21 July 2006 22:29 (nineteen years ago)

Yeah I don't buy either example. "It's Hard Out Here For A Pimp" really became well-known after it won the Oscar, and that Oscar ceremony was crawling with Daily Show people (Jon hosted, Stephen did voice-overs for the pre-taped stuff, and surely the regular DS writers were involved). That would be a pretty easy joke to make.

As for the hobo stuff, I was going to bring up that time Gwyneth Paltrow went on Conan and said she kills a hobo before starting a new film, but it turns out she kills 'em with a hammer. Totally different.

― reddening (reddening), Saturday, 22 July 2006 02:18 (nineteen years ago)

Hobo-killing stuff is soooo not ILX-only. Although I'd be more suspicious of when Yacht Rock featured "stabbing a homeless woman".

Ned, Scott Jacobson, Daily Show writer, has an EP on Tape Mountain, which released your Almanac recording (as well as my Saskatchewan album). If that wasn't enough of a connection to get you on the show, then I don't know what to tell you. Also, Scott, if you are reading this: Hello.

― Casuistry (Chris P), Saturday, 22 July 2006 04:12 (nineteen years ago)

(It is available for free download if anyone is interested. Very "four track" sounding. It's nice, if you like that.

― Casuistry (Chris P), Saturday, 22 July 2006 04:13 (nineteen years ago)

And the Yacht Rock guys have floated around ILM, too

― kingfish cyclopean ice cream (kingfish 2.0), Saturday, 22 July 2006 04:29 (nineteen years ago)

the funniest 7 minutes ever?

Colbert vs Eleanor Holmes Norton

― A Giant Mechanical Ant (The Giant Mechanical Ant), Tuesday, 1 August 2006 15:05 (nineteen years ago)

Well, no. not really. although the "you helped write the federal sexual harassment legislation so why are you undressing me with your eyes?" comment raised a smile. he is an amooosing chap.

― uptoeleven (uptoeleven), Tuesday, 1 August 2006 18:51 (nineteen years ago)

No...it actually is.

― A Giant Mechanical Ant (The Giant Mechanical Ant), Tuesday, 1 August 2006 19:35 (nineteen years ago)

actually, as it turns out, it's not.

― s1ocki (slutsky), Tuesday, 1 August 2006 19:39 (nineteen years ago)

no it is. i checked.

― A Giant Mechanical Ant (The Giant Mechanical Ant), Tuesday, 1 August 2006 19:45 (nineteen years ago)

no, the information that was posted earlier was actually an error... it's been corrected.

― s1ocki (slutsky), Tuesday, 1 August 2006 19:51 (nineteen years ago)

my mistake.

― A Giant Mechanical Ant (The Giant Mechanical Ant), Tuesday, 1 August 2006 20:20 (nineteen years ago)

i recorrected it. it is.

― sunny successor (katharine), Tuesday, 1 August 2006 21:15 (nineteen years ago)

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― Thermo Thinwall (Thermo Thinwall), Wednesday, 2 August 2006 14:10 (nineteen years ago)

hahahaha

― j blount (papa la bas), Wednesday, 2 August 2006 15:18 (nineteen years ago)

Oh, David Cross.

― Tab Hunter loves to take his shirt off (kenan), Friday, 4 August 2006 02:43 (nineteen years ago)

I turned the tv off about three minutes into that.

― Whitman Mayonnaise (Rock Hardy), Friday, 4 August 2006 02:57 (nineteen years ago)

Pitiful. I switched to the next channel, and watched three minutes of "In Living Color," and it was riiight about the same level of unforgivable crap.

― Tab Hunter loves to take his shirt off (kenan), Friday, 4 August 2006 03:25 (nineteen years ago)

lol @ unforgivable

― Adrienne Begley (sparklecock), Friday, 4 August 2006 03:35 (nineteen years ago)

You don't understand. Mel Gibson was on this episode.

― Tab Hunter loves to take his shirt off (kenan), Friday, 4 August 2006 03:40 (nineteen years ago)

Hmmm†

†©2006 Thermo Thinwall

― Thermo Thinwall (Thermo Thinwall), Friday, 4 August 2006 04:11 (nineteen years ago)

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v622/dysign/ilx/OnNoticeNED.jpg

― Thermo Thinwall (Thermo Thinwall), Monday, 7 August 2006 20:07 (nineteen years ago)

what happened

― s1ocki (slutsky), Monday, 7 August 2006 20:51 (nineteen years ago)

i don't know but if david cross was involved i bet it was HILARIOUS

― j blount (papa la bas), Monday, 7 August 2006 21:21 (nineteen years ago)

Oops, forgot to provide a link to the site!

― Thermo Thinwall (Thermo Thinwall), Monday, 7 August 2006 22:00 (nineteen years ago)

see also: threat down generator!

― tehresa needs more out of this relationship than she's willing to put in (tehres, Tuesday, 8 August 2006 03:52 (nineteen years ago)

I went to a taping last week. You wouldn't believe how tiny the studio is. We sat in the front row and Colbert gave everyone a high five. He has surpringly soft hands!

― Aaron W (Aaron W), Tuesday, 8 August 2006 03:57 (nineteen years ago)

two weeks pass...
http://kleinschmidt.wordpress.com/2006/08/24/on-mashing-doughnuts-into-balls/

― cousin larry bundgee (bundgee), Friday, 25 August 2006 18:37 (nineteen years ago)

two weeks pass...
HAHAHa finally found this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bS5RDHSIL8o

― kingfish prætor (kingfish 2.0), Monday, 11 September 2006 04:57 (nineteen years ago)

two weeks pass...
WOW. Steve Wozniak is a big dork.

― Party Time Country Female (pullapartgirl), Friday, 29 September 2006 02:59 (nineteen years ago)

how's the show been lately? i haven't seen it in quite a while.

― service comedy (Jody Beth Rosen), Friday, 29 September 2006 03:02 (nineteen years ago)

What, he's not inside the Statue of Liberty's crown anymore?

― Pleasant Plains /// (Pleasant Plains ///), Friday, 29 September 2006 03:04 (nineteen years ago)

I think it was really, really funny for a while, but it's recently got disgustingly inside-jokey. Instead of doing funny bits or fake interviews with congress people (those were great), Colbert spends approx. 70% of the time making lame references to previous shows over and over again. See: jedi fight scene, bears, Charlene, new black friend, etc etc.

― vingt regards (vignt_regards), Friday, 29 September 2006 17:02 (nineteen years ago)

well he's not on fire anymore but the dropoff is very recent(say, the last month or so)

― tremendoid (tremendoid), Friday, 29 September 2006 18:33 (nineteen years ago)

70% of the time making lame references to previous shows over and over again

it's called "a running joke"

― kingfish prætor (kingfish 2.0), Friday, 29 September 2006 18:46 (nineteen years ago)

lameness by any other name...

― oops (Oops), Friday, 29 September 2006 19:09 (nineteen years ago)

well he's not on fire anymore but the dropoff is very recent(say, the last month or so)

Yeah, this is really true. He was on fire just 6 months ago, but the show is seriously in decline now.

it's called "a running joke"

The Colbert Report is a half hour show that spends 10 minutes on unfunny running jokes. It looks like they don't have the writing staff to make up new material. My point stands.

― vingt regards (vignt_regards), Friday, 29 September 2006 19:32 (nineteen years ago)

WOW. Steve Wozniak is a big dork.

And you're surprised by this? Woz revels in his dorkyness.

― Elvis Telecom (Chris Barrus), Friday, 29 September 2006 19:50 (nineteen years ago)

iGod

― gabbneb (gabbneb), Friday, 29 September 2006 19:51 (nineteen years ago)

I like the running jokes. I also think you're seriously overstating their presence: aside from the green screen contest, what gets repeated night after night? He hasn't mentioned bears in months, Charlene was mentioned once in a skit a week ago, and the last time the "black friend" thing came up, it was to make fun of Sen. George Allen's charming "ethnic rally." Oh, except the the Jewish Forgiveness Hotline, that's gotten a lot of play recently. (1-888-OOPS-JEW!)

In terms of political satire I thought he's been more scathingly prescient than usual recently - see the last couple of Word segments on the Geneva Convention "vagueness" and Republican tactics of temporarily disagreeing with Bush. Those things are soaked in bitter irony.

― reddening (reddening), Friday, 29 September 2006 19:53 (nineteen years ago)

That's the thing, even if the jokes only live for a week or so, there are just so stinking many of them that it becomes obnoxious. Running jokes compose an unnaturally large % of the program and that sort of in-joking gets under my skin after a while. Yeah, right now the only big running jokes are the Jewish hotline and the green screen thing, with maybe one more from the past thrown in per show, and of course the Chavez-book-selling-more-than-Frank-Rich's (only a few eps). But still, that takes up 10 mins of a 30 minute long show.

See also :
Hungarian bridge week long running joke.
Black friend week long running joke.
etc.

It's funny once in a while to reference previous shows, but every night, come on. It gets to look like they're trying too hard. Don't get me wrong, I still like Colbert. And his programming format is harder than Stewart's to keep high quality. But it's gotten under my skin in the last couple of months.

― vingt regards (vignt_regards), Friday, 29 September 2006 20:37 (nineteen years ago)

So, vingt regards, let me get this straight: Are the inside running jokes on the Colbert Report starting to get under your skin?

― Haikunym (Haikunym), Friday, 29 September 2006 20:40 (nineteen years ago)

Jewish hotline is funny

― Jordan (Jordan), Friday, 29 September 2006 20:48 (nineteen years ago)

and the charlene jokes are never not funny

― kingfish prætor (kingfish 2.0), Friday, 29 September 2006 20:49 (nineteen years ago)

Tek Jansen is teh awesome

― Shakey Mo Collier (Shakey Mo Collier), Friday, 29 September 2006 20:50 (nineteen years ago)

(xpost to vignt) Fair enough. I think he has two levels of these things going on: memes like Charlene, bears etc. that get brought up briefly every so often, and then the recurring theme segments like the Hungarian bridge or Jewish hotline (or that whole thing where he set out a chair for Joe Lieberman for like a week). I always enjoy the first category, but I can see growing weary of the second.

It sucks that no representatives will come on and do Better Know A District anymore, apparently someone sent out an e-mail advising House Democrats not to go on until elections are over? Wimps.

― reddening (reddening), Friday, 29 September 2006 21:00 (nineteen years ago)

Anything unfunny I blame on Harry Potter Nick Sylvester.

― GILLY'S BAGG'EAR VANCE OF COUPARI (Ex Leon), Friday, 29 September 2006 21:43 (nineteen years ago)

two weeks pass...
http://cgi.ebay.com/Stephen-Colbert-Exclusive-Portrait_W0QQitemZ290040269306QQihZ019QQcategoryZ201QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

they're auctioning off the fireplace portrait for charity

― kingfish prætor (kingfish 2.0), Wednesday, 18 October 2006 05:49 (nineteen years ago)

Wow, the current high bid is 100 million dollars. That's going to be one happy charity!

― reddening (reddening), Wednesday, 18 October 2006 08:38 (nineteen years ago)

WTF - the GEORGE LUCAS guest appearance didn't zazz any of you doods?

― David R. (popshots75`), Wednesday, 18 October 2006 12:53 (nineteen years ago)

This was awesome:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2006/10/17/colbert-has-ice-cream-th_n_31871.html

― polyphonic (polyphonic), Wednesday, 18 October 2006 15:33 (nineteen years ago)

The George L. bit had some zazz, but not enough. For the combined forces of ILM, you expect something that's explosively zazztastic.

― kingfish prætor (kingfish 2.0), Wednesday, 18 October 2006 15:48 (nineteen years ago)

The ice cream three-way had me falling out of bed.

― this, however, is the crucial moment from the libertine's point of view (kenan), Wednesday, 18 October 2006 15:51 (nineteen years ago)

it did nothing for me

― sunny successor (katharine), Thursday, 19 October 2006 14:50 (nineteen years ago)

Oh Vienna.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 19 October 2006 14:50 (nineteen years ago)

I can't be the only person who sees this thread title once every three weeks and (just for a second) thinks "Colbert has another show?"

― Hoosteen (Hoosteen), Thursday, 19 October 2006 17:59 (nineteen years ago)

Oh yes you can.

― Thermo Thinwall (Thermo Thinwall), Thursday, 19 October 2006 18:56 (nineteen years ago)

two weeks pass...
ok, brunch times

― gabbneb (gabbneb), Friday, 3 November 2006 04:41 (nineteen years ago)

His interview with the 25-year-old congressional candidate was a thing of beauty.

― polyphonic (polyphonic), Friday, 3 November 2006 07:42 (nineteen years ago)

"that could be your new slogan: "Congratulations, Henry Waxman""

those are always greatness

― tremendoid (tremendoid), Friday, 3 November 2006 07:44 (nineteen years ago)

do you think Manilow 'got' any of it

― Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Friday, 3 November 2006 14:30 (nineteen years ago)

OMG! TEK JANSON!

― scott seward (scott seward), Thursday, 9 November 2006 04:53 (nineteen years ago)

er, Jansen. And specifically the awesome show intro tonight. it will be on youtube tomorrow. don't fret.

― scott seward (scott seward), Thursday, 9 November 2006 05:01 (nineteen years ago)

The Republican Majority memorial montage was oddly touching. I had forgotten all about Bob Livingston!

― daniel striped tiger (OutDatWay), Thursday, 9 November 2006 05:02 (nineteen years ago)

I am so glad they rerun these things at 9 p.m. the next day because this show is way past my bedtime.

― Abbott (Abbott), Thursday, 9 November 2006 06:02 (nineteen years ago)

and by show intro, i mean the tek jansen theme song/show intro! sheesh, way to be clear.

― scott seward (scott seward), Thursday, 9 November 2006 06:10 (nineteen years ago)

The absurdly dragged-out "This show is live" thing on the Midtacular is a perfect illustration of why I can't conceive ppl thinking this is a GREAT show. Fine peaks and too much filler.

(for one thing, it's hard to know where the joke is when it's entirely plausible that WAS Beatty and Bening on the phone)

― Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 9 November 2006 14:19 (nineteen years ago)

um i think the joek was that he called beatty and bening for something so meaningless.

[i think the show has fallen off a little bit, but hopefully his character will be revived by "taking democrats to task." compared to what's happened to the daily show, this is still going strong.]

― blackmail (blackmail.is.my.life), Thursday, 9 November 2006 14:30 (nineteen years ago)

Yes, but the joke ain't 'clean' unless you know if it's them or not

― Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 9 November 2006 14:33 (nineteen years ago)

dude had "george l." on the show. i'm guessing he could get beatty/bening to agree to a meaningless phone call.

― blackmail (blackmail.is.my.life), Thursday, 9 November 2006 14:37 (nineteen years ago)

but Beatty has been kind of a recluse, except when he did some Reds DVD promotion. What made it plausible is you could imagine him liking the show.

"george l." ?

― Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 9 November 2006 14:40 (nineteen years ago)

by "recluse" i mean TVwise

― Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 9 November 2006 14:40 (nineteen years ago)

george lucas, dude. he was on for the green screen challenge. do you watch the show?

― blackmail (blackmail.is.my.life), Thursday, 9 November 2006 14:42 (nineteen years ago)

i thought the singing of the star spangled banner with john hall was kind of touching.

― gypsy mothra (gypsy mothra), Thursday, 9 November 2006 15:02 (nineteen years ago)

and funny, although i'd like to see less of the colbert variety show that he's been resorting to lately.

― blackmail (blackmail.is.my.life), Thursday, 9 November 2006 15:04 (nineteen years ago)

not every frigging night, no. can i do penance?

oh God, MORE variety, rather than time with The Man Who Destroyed American Movies.

― Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 9 November 2006 15:17 (nineteen years ago)

I liked his silent, theatre-school-style "monologue" last night.

― Simon H. (Simon H.), Thursday, 9 November 2006 15:24 (nineteen years ago)

That was great.

― Beth S. (Ex Leon), Thursday, 9 November 2006 15:26 (nineteen years ago)

best colbert opening joke so far:

"They say only drunks and children tell the truth. Guess which one I am."

― sunny successor (katharine), Friday, 10 November 2006 17:30 (nineteen years ago)

i thought the singing of the star spangled banner with john hall was kind of touching.

I loved that Stephen did the harmony, and at times they actually sounded really good!

― polyphonic (polyphonic), Friday, 10 November 2006 18:28 (nineteen years ago)

They did! I was surprised, I was expecting it to be more joke-y somehow.

― Beth S. (Ex Leon), Friday, 10 November 2006 18:31 (nineteen years ago)

did anyone see P.K. Winsome (tim meadows) in harlem last night, riding around in the GOP Bus, dribbling a basketball with two hands and shooting airballs 10 feet over the rim? i was fucking DYING

― ath (ath), Friday, 10 November 2006 20:51 (nineteen years ago)

yeah but it sucked after the basketball (except for homedude's "HELL no", that had me rolling). It's like nu-Ladies Man, Meadows can't help running shit into the ground.

― tremendoid (tremendoid), Saturday, 11 November 2006 00:17 (nineteen years ago)

you know, sometimes comedy isn't necessarily funny 100% of the time. there are lulls. especially when tim meadows is involved.

― GOD PUNCH TO HAWKWIND (yournullfame), Saturday, 11 November 2006 02:36 (nineteen years ago)

Rolling Stone : COVER STORY: America's Anchors Jon Stewart and Stephen Colbert

current cover

― lick_my_stereolabia (nariposa), Sunday, 12 November 2006 14:14 (nineteen years ago)

Maureen Dowd: A fake news show, "The Daily Show," spawned a fake commentator, Colbert, who makes his own fake reality defending the fake reality of a real president, and has government officials on who know the joke but are still willing to be mocked by someone fake. Your shows are like mirrors within mirrors, using a cycle of fakery to get to the truth. You've tapped into a sense in society that nothing, from reality shows to Bushworld, is real anymore. Do you guys ever get confused by your hall of mirrors?

Jon Stewart: I didn't know we were going to have to be high to do this interview.

― Curt1s St3ph3ns, Sunday, 12 November 2006 22:31 (nineteen years ago)

it sucked after the basketball (except for homedude's "HELL no", that had me rolling

totally. The ending was, in fact, stupid, unfunny AND offensive.

― Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Monday, 13 November 2006 14:28 (nineteen years ago)

Tek! Jansen!

― Curt1s St3ph3ns, Wednesday, 15 November 2006 03:40 (nineteen years ago)

omg @ America's Top Jefferson

― Curt1s St3ph3ns, Thursday, 16 November 2006 04:50 (nineteen years ago)

That was awesome.

― Beth S. (Ex Leon), Thursday, 16 November 2006 05:03 (nineteen years ago)

Tim Gunn had me roffling.

― Curt1s St3ph3ns, Thursday, 16 November 2006 05:11 (nineteen years ago)

Number 2 on the bestseller's list is Dan the Man, "autobiography about a man who successfully conquered Diablo 2 without the use of his face."

― clotpoll (Clotpoll), Thursday, 16 November 2006 17:55 (nineteen years ago)

one month passes...
Colbert & ORLY to appear on each other's shows on Jan 18th.

http://d.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/p/ap/20070109/capt.nyet14201091825.tv__o_reilly_vs_colbert_nyet142.jpg?x=380&y=288&sig=ZQcajKfDdIrI3IL7J.Oo_Q--

"I'm really looking forward to speaking to a man who owes his entire career to me," O'Reilly said.

"I look forward to the evening," Colbert said. "It is an honor to speak face-to-face with a broadcasting legend, and I feel the same way about Mr. O'Reilly."

I'm kinda hoping they do a musical bit.

― kingfish prætor (kingfish 2.0), Wednesday, 10 January 2007 01:07 (nineteen years ago)

damn it, i have tickets for the 15th and for some reason i was really hoping mlk day would be the day they'd have oreilly on!

― zombierza (tehresa), Wednesday, 10 January 2007 01:23 (nineteen years ago)

I'm kinda hoping they do a musical bit.

And I hope it's Randy Newman's "Political Science"

― Marmot (marmotwolof), Wednesday, 10 January 2007 01:32 (nineteen years ago)

I got the impression last night that he REALLY doesn't like Dinesh D'Souza. He went after him! Getting Dinesh to admit that he agreed with the terrorists about corrupt American culture was pretty brilliant.

― scott seward (scott seward), Wednesday, 17 January 2007 12:08 (nineteen years ago)

dinesh d'souza is an asshole. and colbert SERVED him. yes!

― GOD PUNCH TO HAWKWIND (yournullfame), Wednesday, 17 January 2007 13:14 (nineteen years ago)

i want to know all about tehreza's colbert experience.

― sunny successor agrees: gay dad always trumps slutty mom (katharine), Wednesday, 17 January 2007 14:07 (nineteen years ago)

And to think I was starting to get in the habit of going to bed when the interview starts! That one was a doozy!

― Thermo Thinwall (Thermo Thinwall), Wednesday, 17 January 2007 15:27 (nineteen years ago)

Good timing! Rebroadcast starting right now.

― do i have to draw you a diaphragm (Rock Hardy), Wednesday, 17 January 2007 15:29 (nineteen years ago)

Is this on in the UK?

If he really did go after him I'm glad SOMEBODY from the Comedy Central Axis of Funny has decided to take the gloves off with the right-wing smug-tards they got on their shows.

― Euai Kapaui (tracerhand), Wednesday, 17 January 2007 15:34 (nineteen years ago)

he went after him but remained completely in character. it was really entertaining.

― GOD PUNCH TO HAWKWIND (yournullfame), Wednesday, 17 January 2007 15:43 (nineteen years ago)

colbert would have been a good lawyer.

― scott seward (scott seward), Wednesday, 17 January 2007 16:15 (nineteen years ago)

SOMEBODY from the Comedy Central Axis of Funny has decided to take the gloves off with the right-wing smug-tards

Well, it'll be verrry interesting to see how SC handles "Papa Bear" O'Reilly on Thursday.

http://abcnews.go.com/Entertainment/wireStory?id=2782006

― Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 17 January 2007 16:39 (nineteen years ago)

For some more D'Souza madness, check this interview on Newsmax, entitled 'The Left is Afraid of Bush'

Where he yammers about 9/11 is really the fault of them lib'ruls, Jimmy Carter, "global degeneracy being promoted by the European and American left," and on and on.

― kingfish prætor (kingfish 2.0), Wednesday, 17 January 2007 18:09 (nineteen years ago)

oh, I wish I had seen this. I mfing hate Dinesh D'Souza. he elicited gasps when he spoke at my college.

― horseshoe (horseshoe), Wednesday, 17 January 2007 18:13 (nineteen years ago)

Vid of it is already up here, i think.

― kingfish prætor (kingfish 2.0), Wednesday, 17 January 2007 18:17 (nineteen years ago)

wow. my first impression=D'Souza is even crazier than he used to be.

"but isn't it unfair to lay this all at Clinton and Carter's feet? isn't some of this FDR's fault?"
"indirectly, yes."

anyway, Colbert was amazing.

― horseshoe (horseshoe), Wednesday, 17 January 2007 18:32 (nineteen years ago)

wow, even better a second time. he just never lets up. "why do gay people love eating maggots?". er, paraphrasing. that might be my fave interview yet.

― scott seward (scott seward), Wednesday, 17 January 2007 18:33 (nineteen years ago)

huh I had no idea D'Souza was a brahmin from Goa. weird.

― Shakey Mo Collier (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 17 January 2007 18:38 (nineteen years ago)

(altho rich immigrant syndrome goes a long way towards explaining his politics)

― Shakey Mo Collier (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 17 January 2007 18:46 (nineteen years ago)

I haven't seen this yet, but the last thing i remember from D'Souza was listening to his "End of Racism" audiobook while working at the Shittiest Job I Ever Had, with him going on about wandering aound the Million Mar March and how affirmative action should be ended and it would allow black people to succeed on their own merits and yadda yadda.

It reminded me a lot of the conservative/libertarian urge to woefully/willfully misunderstand systemic causes, how things actually work, etc.

― kingfish prætor (kingfish 2.0), Wednesday, 17 January 2007 18:47 (nineteen years ago)

What a cretin.

― M. White (Miguelito), Wednesday, 17 January 2007 18:52 (nineteen years ago)

im currently writing dinesh d'souza into my upcoming puppet show so im glad to see that his insanity hasnt diminished like some conservatives disillusioned by bush lately

― and what (ooo), Wednesday, 17 January 2007 18:58 (nineteen years ago)

ill watch the video when i get home but can i ask now if he still talks like howdy doody?? also if he still makes jokes like 'i feel like the mosquito at the nudist colony... i dont know where to start!'

― and what (ooo), Wednesday, 17 January 2007 18:59 (nineteen years ago)

that joke is wrong on so many levels

― Shakey Mo Collier (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 17 January 2007 19:02 (nineteen years ago)

he makes "jokes" like, "I don't know much about the gay lifestyle!" his voice has a strange cadence, yeah. part of it is the remnants of an Indian accent, but part of it isn't.

― horseshoe (horseshoe), Wednesday, 17 January 2007 19:02 (nineteen years ago)

but honestly, he was in dead serious mode through most of the interview.

― horseshoe (horseshoe), Wednesday, 17 January 2007 19:03 (nineteen years ago)

yeah sometimes he slips into a hindi accent when yelling or otherwise annoyed

― and what (ooo), Wednesday, 17 January 2007 19:06 (nineteen years ago)

one of the weirder things about that interview is as it progresses he starts to speak more and more as though he has the personal ear of Osama bin Laden--speaking really authoritatively about what bin Laden believes. it's one of the things about that brand of right-wing rhetoric that always feels really chilling to listen to: like, there but for whatever goes d'Souza. anyway, Colbert is really skillful at painting him into that corner.

― horseshoe (horseshoe), Wednesday, 17 January 2007 19:09 (nineteen years ago)

im currently writing dinesh d'souza into my upcoming puppet show

!!!

This I need to see.

― N.i.c.o.l.e (Ex Leon), Wednesday, 17 January 2007 19:24 (nineteen years ago)

ill watch the video when i get home but can i ask now if he still talks like howdy doody?? also if he still makes jokes like 'i feel like the mosquito at the nudist colony... i dont know where to start!'
-- and what (an...), January 17th, 2007 6:59 PM. (ooo) (link)

I love that joke. Dinesh D'Souza is a genius.

― Fleischhutliebe! like a warm, furry meatloaf (Fluffy Bear Hearts Rainbows), Wednesday, 17 January 2007 19:27 (nineteen years ago)

Oh jackpot, dude's now a columnist at Townhall.com now.

His first column: "Pornography -- The Real Perversion". It has a nice big big of Larry Flynt in conjunction w/ a talk given to the ACLU. Oh, and apparently, all lib'ruls think child porn is ok.

And here's his talk about "The Enemy At Home," given to the Young Americas Foundation at St. John's University. The thing is 40 mins long.

― kingfish prætor (kingfish 2.0), Wednesday, 17 January 2007 19:39 (nineteen years ago)

big pic, rather.

and here's the Young America's Foundation, currently featuring The Dirty Dozen: America's Most Bizarre and Politically Correct College Courses .

― kingfish prætor (kingfish 2.0), Wednesday, 17 January 2007 19:42 (nineteen years ago)

"Coming to Marx’s rescue, this course also states that Lenin, Stalin, and Pol Pot misapplied the concepts of Marxism."

how dare they

― Shakey Mo Collier (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 17 January 2007 19:44 (nineteen years ago)

Did the Dinosaur puppet show ever get picketed?

― kingfish prætor (kingfish 2.0), Wednesday, 17 January 2007 19:47 (nineteen years ago)

so I guess O'Reilly will be a big lovefest after this.

― Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 17 January 2007 19:54 (nineteen years ago)

My school takes spot 1 AND spot 5!!

― max (maxreax), Wednesday, 17 January 2007 19:54 (nineteen years ago)

it'll be more interesting to see what Colbert does on O'Reilly's show, I think...

― Shakey Mo Collier (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 17 January 2007 19:55 (nineteen years ago)

xp on the dirty dozen list, that is

― max (maxreax), Wednesday, 17 January 2007 19:56 (nineteen years ago)

YES. That'll be the first time I've ever seen his show. (xp)

― do i have to draw you a diaphragm (Rock Hardy), Wednesday, 17 January 2007 19:57 (nineteen years ago)

I was proud to be a member of the Colbert Nation after this interview.

― Hoosteen (Hoosteen), Wednesday, 17 January 2007 20:04 (nineteen years ago)

he's selling Tek Jansen Alpha Squad 7 t-shirts now, too

― kingfish prætor (kingfish 2.0), Wednesday, 17 January 2007 20:28 (nineteen years ago)

Swarthmore College’s Nonviolent Responses to Terrorism “deconstruct[s] terrorism” and “build[s] on promising nonviolent procedures to combat today’s terrorism.” The “non-violent” struggle Blacks pursued in the 1960s is outlined as a mode for tackling today’s terrorism.

these monsters must be stopped

― and what (ooo), Wednesday, 17 January 2007 20:47 (nineteen years ago)

ha!

there was this really tense moment when D'Souza spoke at my school (there had been protests about him even coming to campus). it was part of an affirmative action debate. durig the Q and A a student basically forced D'Souza to draw a statistical picture of what his ideal entering college class would look like, racially. and he replied, "2% African American." About half of the audience was African American, so it basically felt like he was looking at the students in the audience telling them he wanted them gone.

― horseshoe (horseshoe), Wednesday, 17 January 2007 20:52 (nineteen years ago)

Finally saw this. Colbert was masterful in that interview, although to be fair D'Souza threw him some lobs. That gay marriage/maggot eating thing was... insane.

― Casuistry (Chris P), Thursday, 18 January 2007 00:32 (nineteen years ago)

i wish i had cable so i could watch this more often. i'm too lazy to download.

i want to know all about tehreza's colbert experience.

-- sunny successor agrees: gay dad always trumps slutty mom (sunnysuccesso...), January 17th, 2007 1:07 AM. (katharine) (later) (link)

it was good, but the guest sucked. also, i am a person who tends to laugh quietly and at the first commercial break the audience coordinator went around asking everyone to laugh louder, which led teh douchebags behind us to start laughing like idiots and repeating the last word of every joke. i also just find a lot of colbert's humor the more subtle chuckle than laugh boisterously out loud kind. i guess that doesn't go over so well in a studio audience, though!

we did get to sit in the front row, which was pretty awesome, and vic (sleep) got a hand slap when he ran by the crowd.

some girl had a certificate of achievement signed by lynn westmoreland and asked stephen to sign it, on which he wrote 'thou shalt not write legislation you don't know shit about'.

'the word' segment was pretty sweet.

he is a pretty awesome dude. wish the guest hadn't sucked. i might have been more apt to laugh loudly. i guess i will have to dl this orly interview though... totally psyched for that!

― more grease in the pianissimo. (tehresa), Thursday, 18 January 2007 00:40 (nineteen years ago)

If you guys got hand slaps, does that mean you were shown on the tv? I already deleted my copy of Monday's show...

― Casuistry (Chris P), Thursday, 18 January 2007 00:43 (nineteen years ago)

I finally watched this tonight, and damn, Stephen was pretty hardcore. I wish he had brought up the whole "stationing troops on Saudi soil" thing, but he did damn fine.

― kingfish prætor (kingfish 2.0), Thursday, 18 January 2007 06:05 (nineteen years ago)

If you guys got hand slaps, does that mean you were shown on the tv? I already deleted my copy of Monday's show...

no, this was when he met the audience before the taping actually started. he didn't go out into the audience during the show.

― hstencil (hstencil), Thursday, 18 January 2007 06:08 (nineteen years ago)

tehresa, that sounds like a good time although the 'laugh louder' thing would probably make me stop laughing. i was looking for you before the interview but no audience shot. i'd come to nyc just to see a taping.

― sunny successor agrees: gay dad always trumps slutty mom (katharine), Thursday, 18 January 2007 13:54 (nineteen years ago)

hstencil, you went too? get slapped?


does anyone know what time o'reilly's show is on?

― sunny successor agrees: gay dad always trumps slutty mom (katharine), Thursday, 18 January 2007 13:55 (nineteen years ago)

I dunno, that author's revelation that collagen comes from some fetal boy's penile cells left SC speechless, which is nice to see once in awhile.

BO'R airs at 7 (live) & 11 in the East, and once again in the wee hours I think.

― Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 18 January 2007 14:14 (nineteen years ago)

yes, it was theresa, vic and myself. was too slow on the slappin' five action, unfortunately.

― hstencil (hstencil), Thursday, 18 January 2007 19:21 (nineteen years ago)

O'Reilly's show is on at roughly YouTube o'clock, I assume.

― Casuistry (Chris P), Thursday, 18 January 2007 21:02 (nineteen years ago)

seriously, or half-past-Bittorrent, depending on your timezone.

― kingfish prætor (kingfish 2.0), Thursday, 18 January 2007 21:23 (nineteen years ago)

My cable guide says 7:00 and I'm in Central time, which would make it 8:00 in the east.

― do i have to draw you a diaphragm (Rock Hardy), Thursday, 18 January 2007 21:25 (nineteen years ago)

mea culpa, u r right (I've never watched it cept surfing either.)

― Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 18 January 2007 21:41 (nineteen years ago)

(three-quarters-past-Bittorrent, for those in Newfoundland)

― kingfish prætor (kingfish 2.0), Thursday, 18 January 2007 22:05 (nineteen years ago)

35 minutes y u have to be so long

― Curt1s St3ph3ns, Friday, 19 January 2007 00:24 (nineteen years ago)

The audible background laughter is great!

― cws (cws), Friday, 19 January 2007 01:43 (nineteen years ago)

awkward moments in TV history:

1. Bill O'Reilly trying to be funny.

"ARE YOU COLBERT OR COLBERT?!?!?!"

― Curt1s St3ph3ns, Friday, 19 January 2007 01:45 (nineteen years ago)

I guess Colbert not doing it in character was too much to ask for.

― do i have to draw you a diaphragm (Rock Hardy), Friday, 19 January 2007 01:55 (nineteen years ago)

That could have been A LOT better. And not knowing what time the interview happens, I stupidly watched the whole show. Although Mancow making O'Reilly look smart was precious.

― Charlie Brown (kenan), Friday, 19 January 2007 02:02 (nineteen years ago)

The Colbert Report will be better, I presume.

― Curt1s St3ph3ns, Friday, 19 January 2007 02:07 (nineteen years ago)

Bernie Goldberg was a douche, aspertheusual.

― Hoosteen (Hoosteen), Friday, 19 January 2007 02:12 (nineteen years ago)

When was the last time Colbert did something out of character? That NPR interview right when the show started (or was about to start)?

― Casuistry (Chris P), Friday, 19 January 2007 03:35 (nineteen years ago)

http://colbertondemand.com/specials/Colbert_On_OReilly

― m@p (plosive), Friday, 19 January 2007 03:37 (nineteen years ago)

When was the last time Colbert did something out of character?
He was on Charlie Rose's show last month. It used to be available on video.google.com, but seems to have been removed.

― Øystein (Øystein), Friday, 19 January 2007 03:58 (nineteen years ago)

ok so what was funny here is that they both have the shtick down pat and they were both trying so hard to avoid giving their opponent anything that it was just like... a standoff.

― Sterling Clover (s_clover), Friday, 19 January 2007 04:23 (nineteen years ago)

I'm sure O'Reilly fans think he totally pwned Colbert, just as Colbert, in the eyes of his fans, will rule O'Reilly in about 20 minutes.

― Charlie Brown (kenan), Friday, 19 January 2007 04:25 (nineteen years ago)

Odd to see how Colbert threw out jokes, but the audience was predispositioned NOT to laugh. It was kinda funny, actually, but you wouldn't know that just as an ordinary TV viewer, because no one was laughing.

― Charlie Brown (kenan), Friday, 19 January 2007 04:27 (nineteen years ago)

Do you mean on O'Reilly's show? He doesn't have an audience. That weak chuckling was from a crew of yes-men.

― do i have to draw you a diaphragm (Rock Hardy), Friday, 19 January 2007 04:39 (nineteen years ago)

Oh. No wonder you could hear each chuckle individually.

I have never seen this show before.

― Charlie Brown (kenan), Friday, 19 January 2007 04:42 (nineteen years ago)

eh, that was about what i expected. the orly on colbert thing.

― scott seward (scott seward), Friday, 19 January 2007 04:58 (nineteen years ago)

"You can only imagine what it's like to be stalked by a sexual predator." heh

― Pleasant Plains /// (Pleasant Plains ///), Friday, 19 January 2007 05:00 (nineteen years ago)

Side note: The Naked Trucker and T-Bones Show is actually less watchable than Carlos Mencia. I did not know that was possible.

― Charlie Brown (kenan), Friday, 19 January 2007 05:03 (nineteen years ago)

"check your lawyer" was sooo o'reilly... i love him "emulating" orly to his face!

now to watch colbert report version!

― more grease in the pianissimo. (tehresa), Friday, 19 January 2007 05:09 (nineteen years ago)

"You can only imagine what it's like to be stalked by a sexual predator." heh

haha, also his last word "thanks for not asking me about that thing we agreed you wouldn't ask me about." Took me a second to make the falafel connection there. Honestly Colbert on the Factor was funnier than O'RLY on the Report.

― walter kranz (walterkranz), Friday, 19 January 2007 06:03 (nineteen years ago)

although the "mayor of SF" pic was pretty classic.

― walter kranz (walterkranz), Friday, 19 January 2007 06:04 (nineteen years ago)

two awful deformations of my speech and thought caused by the internet are seriously --> srsly and o'reilly --> o rly no matter what

― A B C (sparklecock), Friday, 19 January 2007 06:08 (nineteen years ago)

"if you are an act then what am I " or somesuch was a very fine ending to that exchange

― SÆbästìên (immortalist), Friday, 19 January 2007 06:10 (nineteen years ago)

This I need to see.

Yeah, more about the Ethan puppet show plz.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 19 January 2007 07:22 (nineteen years ago)

ok yeah also the "nobody gives you credit for how loud you say it or how long you say it" was a serious zing.

― Sterling Clover (s_clover), Friday, 19 January 2007 07:41 (nineteen years ago)

"if you are an act then what am I " or somesuch was a very fine ending to that exchange

-- SÆbästìên (sebastie...), January 18th, 2007 5:10 PM. (immortalist) (later) (link)


i love that colbert made sure he got the last word in, too! orly hates that!

― more grease in the pianissimo. (tehresa), Friday, 19 January 2007 13:29 (nineteen years ago)

how lame was o'reilly for hammering on the switch from colbERT to colbert; really surprised he didn't come armed with something better than that

― m@p (plosive), Friday, 19 January 2007 14:09 (nineteen years ago)

Because he doesn't have a separate thread yet, here's D'souza writing in the LA Times today

He pretty much covers the same territory, about how Jimmy Carter caused the Shah(w/ the whole torture/secret police thing) to fail, the Dems in Congress will apparently completely cut off funding and let the terrists follow us home, bill clinton was a pussy, we cut and run in vietnam and mogadishu(but not Beirut in 1983), there's no such thing as american colonialism in the middle east, Iran is a model for radical islam(including the radical Sunnis who actually attacked us, apparently).

The phrases "stationed troops on Saudi soil," "no war for Monica," and "arrested and tried those responsible for the 1993 WTC Bombing" curiously do not appear.

(found it here, w/ a little historical commentary)

― kingfish prætor (kingfish 2.0), Friday, 19 January 2007 19:22 (nineteen years ago)

GOD IF ONLY WE HAD CONTINUED SUPPORTING THE DEATHS OF COUNTLESS IRANIANS 9/11 NEVER WOULD HAVE HAPPENED.

― max (maxreax), Friday, 19 January 2007 19:24 (nineteen years ago)

GOD D'Souza is so dumb it makes me cry. It's as though the history of fucked-up Iran/U.S. relations only goes back to the 1970s.

IF WE REALLY WANT TO LAY SOME BLAME HERE let's talk about REPUBLICAN PRESIDENT Dwight Eisenhower giving the go-ahead to Operation Ajax, wherein the CIA--on behalf of the Anglo-Iranian Oil Company, more or less (although also to prevent the Tudeh (Iranian Communists) from coming to power--led a coup against the democratically-elected (and immensely popular) Prime Minister Mossadegh and placed the Shah on the throne. LIKE HOLY SHIT Iran LOVED the U.S. for most of this century (older Iranians still do, and blame Britain for the Iraq war) and if the coup hadn't happened Khomeini probably never would have come into power.

BUT SURE LET'S BLAME CARTER FOR NOT WANTING TO SUPPORT A BRUTAL DICTATOR.

― max (maxreax), Friday, 19 January 2007 19:30 (nineteen years ago)

Hmm.. I thought Orly pwned Colbert on the Colbert Report, but it was the other way around on the Factor. Sort of. then it just got surreal!

― dar1a g (daria g), Friday, 19 January 2007 21:21 (nineteen years ago)

Yeah, I agree, dar1a. I was impressed with O'Reilly's quick response to Colbert's Americans-make-mistakes-we-just-don't-admit-them line: "I admit my mistakes; it was a mistake to be on this show."

I'm reminded of that Slate essay published a couple of years ago: flatter O'Really and he leaves you alone, like a dog likes his belly scratched.

― Alfred, Lord Sotosyn (Alfred Soto), Friday, 19 January 2007 21:29 (nineteen years ago)

I dunno, Colbert's intro and outro zingers were subtle and pretty genius (sexual predator/but what does that make me?)

― Shakey Mo Collier (Shakey Mo Collier), Friday, 19 January 2007 21:32 (nineteen years ago)

Huh, I only saw the O'rly show and thought it was anticlimactic, even though Colbert was pretty quick. I was hoping that there would be fireworks on the Colbert Report.

― Jordan (Jordan), Friday, 19 January 2007 21:40 (nineteen years ago)

I kind of wish Colbert had stepped out of character to kick Bernie Goldberg in the mouth.

― Hoosteen (Hoosteen), Friday, 19 January 2007 22:10 (nineteen years ago)

you were really impressed with that 'mistake' line? so pre-scripted, so defensive-for-no-reason, so...well, so O'Reilly really. still though.

― Haikunym (Haikunym), Friday, 19 January 2007 22:13 (nineteen years ago)

Given that he said that I was hoping SC would go after him more ala D'Souza, was disappointed he didn't.

― Hoosteen (Hoosteen), Friday, 19 January 2007 22:18 (nineteen years ago)

not the "mistake" line (that was actually at the beginning of the segment) - I was referring to Colbert's response to Bill "admitting" that "this is all an act".

― Shakey Mo Collier (Shakey Mo Collier), Friday, 19 January 2007 22:24 (nineteen years ago)

It was the small details that were brilliant. The fact that Colbert had on the same suit as O'Reilly (and didn't mention this at all) was hysterical.

― Casuistry (Chris P), Saturday, 20 January 2007 02:03 (nineteen years ago)

wtf didn't even see that, awesome.

― Hoosteen (Hoosteen), Saturday, 20 January 2007 02:05 (nineteen years ago)

this whole thing was just like a who can keep a straighter face contest.

― Sterling Clover (s_clover), Saturday, 20 January 2007 03:27 (nineteen years ago)

heh. he really did swipe the microwave, but the FNC people let him have it.

― kingfish prætor (kingfish 2.0), Saturday, 20 January 2007 20:02 (nineteen years ago)

two weeks pass...
Holy crap. Enslave Obama to give him street cred. That was a funny bit.

― So weit wie knock-kneed (kenan), Friday, 9 February 2007 04:46 (nineteen years ago)

"It's doesn't have to be racist. He could be Jesse Jackson's slave."

― So weit wie knock-kneed (kenan), Friday, 9 February 2007 04:49 (nineteen years ago)

Has it ever been explained why sometimes the interview set has the normal background and sometimes it has the stained glass? It doesn't seem to be relevant to the guest at all.

― Johnny Fever (johnny fever), Friday, 9 February 2007 04:53 (nineteen years ago)

The real genius is that none of that would have worked at all if he didn't have a willing foil. The foil is an oft overlooked staple.

― So weit wie knock-kneed (kenan), Friday, 9 February 2007 04:54 (nineteen years ago)

one month passes...
might as well put this here:

http://img184.imageshack.us/img184/6886/colbertncarrellmj5.gif

Younger, simpler times, 11 years ago

― kingfish, Saturday, 17 March 2007 07:59 (nineteen years ago)

The Frowning Clown

"His jokes are aimed at people who would never watch Bill O'Reilly's conservative rant of a cable news show on Fox, but who recognise Mr Colbert's obnoxious on-screen persona as a parody of Mr O'Reilly because they have read about Mr O'Reilly in the New Yorker."

― caek, Friday, 30 March 2007 00:31 (nineteen years ago)

three weeks pass...
let's hear it for Beppo, God's chimp.

― tremendoid, Friday, 20 April 2007 19:56 (nineteen years ago)

Metaphor-Off: Not as good as Gravitas-Off.

― Roz, Friday, 20 April 2007 20:04 (nineteen years ago)

bepooooo!

― BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Saturday, 21 April 2007 00:55 (nineteen years ago)

"His jokes are aimed at people who would never watch Bill O'Reilly's conservative rant of a cable news show on Fox, but who recognise Mr Colbert's obnoxious on-screen persona as a parody of Mr O'Reilly because they have read about Mr O'Reilly in the New Yorker."

i find this hard to believe! i've seen more o'reilly than i've seen colbert never mind read the new yorker

― deej, Saturday, 21 April 2007 01:16 (nineteen years ago)

Agreed. I've seen more O'Rly than I'd ever care to admit.

― BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Saturday, 21 April 2007 01:23 (nineteen years ago)

two months pass...

first seven pages of the new Tek Jansen comic, put out by Oni

― kingfish, Friday, 29 June 2007 07:23 (eighteen years ago)

one month passes...

AP bit on how he broke his wrist

― kingfish, Sunday, 29 July 2007 02:54 (eighteen years ago)

two weeks pass...

A taping of a Colbert Report segment on Tuesday turned into chaos...
and it will most likely never make it to air. Stephen Colbert was
interviewing Sir Richard Branson when the billionaire decided to empty
his mug of water on Colbert's head. ...

http://www.mediabistro.com/fishbowlny/tv/richard_bransons_colbert_report_interview_trainwreck_64887.asp

― Dr Morbius, Monday, 13 August 2007 15:11 (eighteen years ago)

When billionaires stop being polite, and start getting real

― kingfish, Monday, 13 August 2007 15:16 (eighteen years ago)

one month passes...

Dude made the cover of Parade Magazine, of all things

― kingfish, Thursday, 20 September 2007 05:55 (eighteen years ago)

three weeks pass...

what did George Saunders have to say last week?

From my public-radio pal Jesse:

I'm headed to NYC next week to interview Stephen Colbert at the Apple Store in Soho. The event is Tuesday night at 8:30, it's free, and you should come. That said, if you have a job or something, maybe you shouldn't come, because you can't reserve tickets, and I'm guessing a lot of people will want to come.

― Dr Morbius, Monday, 15 October 2007 16:48 (eighteen years ago)

He did Larry King out of character the other night, it was pretty good.

― BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Monday, 15 October 2007 16:49 (eighteen years ago)

THAT's what it takes to get him out of character?! and Charlie Rose?

― Dr Morbius, Monday, 15 October 2007 16:51 (eighteen years ago)

As I type this, she’s watching from an overstuffed divan, petting her prize Abyssinian and sipping a Dirty Cosmotinijito.

― remy bean, Monday, 15 October 2007 16:52 (eighteen years ago)

he wasn't entirely out of character on Larry King, but he did have to kind of step out of it to answer a bunch of questions... I got the book for my birthday from a friend, its funny.

― Shakey Mo Collier, Monday, 15 October 2007 16:54 (eighteen years ago)

As he has gilded his lily by parodying TV faschills, his prose (at least the Sunday Times op) just reads like unaired scripts, though.

― Dr Morbius, Monday, 15 October 2007 16:55 (eighteen years ago)

It was funny.

― remy bean, Monday, 15 October 2007 16:58 (eighteen years ago)

he wasn't entirely out of character on Larry King

fair enough, i was watching and straining to hear from across the lobby at work.

― BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Monday, 15 October 2007 16:59 (eighteen years ago)

he was out of character on Letterman

― tremendoid, Monday, 15 October 2007 17:10 (eighteen years ago)

also Fresh Air. He did All Things Considered later that day and it was a weird half-in half-out blend.

― Rock Hardy, Monday, 15 October 2007 17:26 (eighteen years ago)

http://www.charlierose.com/search?q=colbert&searchFilter=colbert&searchType=guest&searchTopic=-1&searchFromMonth=MM&searchFromDay=DD&searchFromYear=YY&searchToMonth=MM&searchToDay=DD&searchToYear=YY

― remy bean, Monday, 15 October 2007 17:54 (eighteen years ago)

I got the book and it kind of reads like if Colbert was writing the Onion. "First Edition" bookmark ribbon, haha.

― Abbott, Monday, 15 October 2007 19:17 (eighteen years ago)

gaydar flowchart is awesome

― Shakey Mo Collier, Monday, 15 October 2007 19:21 (eighteen years ago)

kucinich was on tonight. didn't really get to talk about anything political, but managed to not be too awkward about the comedy.

― GOTT PUNCH II HAWKWINDZ, Tuesday, 16 October 2007 07:23 (eighteen years ago)

yeah and seeing as how he's scarcely more than a punching bag for ds/sc he's a damn good sport

― tremendoid, Tuesday, 16 October 2007 15:15 (eighteen years ago)

well, punching bag > invisible, granted, but i would expect him to try to shoehorn some righteous real talk in there for his trouble.

― tremendoid, Tuesday, 16 October 2007 15:18 (eighteen years ago)

just start a motherfucking new party so I can respect you, Dennis. Raising "your issues" in the Dem field does nothing in the "who gro$$ed more ca$h" world of Barry and Rodham.

― Dr Morbius, Tuesday, 16 October 2007 15:22 (eighteen years ago)

Is he a punching bag for TDS this time around? I haven't noticed it as strongly as, say, last time when Samantha Bee was hanging out at Kucinich HQ and he did headstands for her.

― kingfish, Tuesday, 16 October 2007 15:23 (eighteen years ago)

he's a punching bag for everyone. until about 2 months ago: "dennis kucinich is an elf LOL!" about 2 months ago: "dennis kucinich's wife is fucking hot why's she with that elf LOL!"

― GOTT PUNCH II HAWKWINDZ, Tuesday, 16 October 2007 16:20 (eighteen years ago)

dennis (and everyone else) might as well drop out anyway, the conventional wisdom is being congealed by the press right now and it basically amounts to HILLARY CLINTON IS THE ONLY SERIOUS CANDIDATE, SERIOUSLY, FOR SERIOUS.

― GOTT PUNCH II HAWKWINDZ, Tuesday, 16 October 2007 16:22 (eighteen years ago)

two weeks pass...

Some of the SC campaign stuff last night was cute, esp bonding at the beauty salon.

― Dr Morbius, Friday, 2 November 2007 14:03 (eighteen years ago)

the whole running for office thing was great, imho.
it was funny and weirdly informative.

― The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall, Friday, 2 November 2007 14:15 (eighteen years ago)

SNACK PAC

― Abbott, Friday, 2 November 2007 19:28 (eighteen years ago)

two months pass...

COLBERTO REPORTO GIGANTE!

― nickalicious, Friday, 18 January 2008 13:55 (eighteen years ago)

that was GREAT

I hate Lou Dobbs

― Shakey Mo Collier, Friday, 18 January 2008 20:01 (eighteen years ago)

two weeks pass...

so did anyone follow the daily show-colbert report-conan o'brien arc last night? the payoff on late night was pretty worthwhile.

― GOTT PUNCH II HAWKWINDZ, Tuesday, 5 February 2008 15:17 (eighteen years ago)

I didn't stay up for the payoff, but then I've never found Conan all that funny.

― Dr Morbius, Tuesday, 5 February 2008 15:19 (eighteen years ago)

what was the deal?

― Jordan, Tuesday, 5 February 2008 15:59 (eighteen years ago)

there was an argument as to who "made" mike huckabee, with colbert asserting "the colbert bump" caused it, conan claiming he had done it somehow and jon stewart claiming he made conan (due to interviewing o'brien on his old mtv show, of which hilariously dated footage was shown). so conan came on a daily show and threw down the gauntlet, then colbert and re-threw the gauntlet, then they did some short endcaps during the commercials breaks and wound up actually having the fight (which was extremely fake and pretty funny) on late night.

― GOTT PUNCH II HAWKWINDZ, Tuesday, 5 February 2008 16:03 (eighteen years ago)

heh

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zh7n3ejhthE
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3iOmj0htNcM

― Jordan, Tuesday, 5 February 2008 16:10 (eighteen years ago)

hahahaa

― Shakey Mo Collier, Tuesday, 5 February 2008 17:02 (eighteen years ago)

Colbert: Have you thought about supporting any Republicans this year? What about Huckabee, are you gay for him?

Joe Solmonese: We're not gay for Mike Huckabee because Mike Huckabee's not gay for us.

Colbert: Tit for tat. No offense.

― Dr Morbius, Friday, 8 February 2008 21:25 (eighteen years ago)

that was such a good segment

― tremendoid, Friday, 8 February 2008 21:45 (eighteen years ago)

it was excellent.

― GOTT PUNCH II HAWKWINDZ, Saturday, 9 February 2008 03:55 (eighteen years ago)

Jeez, Jon with jet-black hair is disconcerting.

Oh yeah, and they already ganked that vid of the YT. Stupid lawyers.

― kingfish, Saturday, 9 February 2008 08:39 (eighteen years ago)

"i teach sunday school, motherfucker!"

― GOTT PUNCH II HAWKWINDZ, Tuesday, 12 February 2008 08:59 (eighteen years ago)

the experiment that gentleman conducted was based on an older, notorious one from decades ago, right? I could've sworn I heard an NPR segment about it.

― tremendoid, Tuesday, 12 February 2008 09:09 (eighteen years ago)

Err, no, his WAS the notorious one from the 70s.
I'm rather impressed with how good the Colbert Report has been through the strike (though I've not seen all the episodes)
Particularly noticeable on the first strike-episode, as it followed one dreadfully painful Daily Show.

― Øystein, Tuesday, 12 February 2008 20:10 (eighteen years ago)

with the exception of the portrait bits, it has been pretty decent.

― The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall, Tuesday, 12 February 2008 20:32 (eighteen years ago)

"i teach sunday school, motherfucker!"

-- GOTT PUNCH II HAWKWINDZ, Tuesday, February 12, 2008 8:59 AM (14 hours ago) Bookmark Link

^^^^ major lols

― That one guy that hit it and quit it, Tuesday, 12 February 2008 23:46 (eighteen years ago)

I thought the portrait series was solid...loved seeing Stephen dance to When Doves Cry.

― musically, Wednesday, 13 February 2008 18:33 (eighteen years ago)

please tell me this is online.

― Jordan, Wednesday, 13 February 2008 18:42 (eighteen years ago)

Ad-filled site, but since youtube doesn't have it:
http://www.imvite.com/video/Stephen-Colbert-When-Doves-Cry----0101/t/5132430

― Øystein, Wednesday, 13 February 2008 21:35 (eighteen years ago)

^^^awesome

― Shakey Mo Collier, Wednesday, 13 February 2008 21:40 (eighteen years ago)

ahaha

― Jordan, Wednesday, 13 February 2008 21:42 (eighteen years ago)

I want Colbert to be in Prince's next video, Walken-style.

― kenan, Wednesday, 13 February 2008 21:46 (eighteen years ago)

colbert can dance pretty well.

― That one guy that hit it and quit it, Wednesday, 13 February 2008 23:31 (eighteen years ago)

omg Rush Limbauch/Herbie Hancock "Rockit" video

― Shakey Mo Collier, Thursday, 14 February 2008 04:37 (eighteen years ago)

three weeks pass...

"girl is mine" duet w/john legend = pretty funny

― tipsy mothra, Friday, 7 March 2008 04:58 (eighteen years ago)

FYI, the new Colbert Report website at comedycentral.com is terrific...it's lost most of the archives (for now), but you can watch entire eps (with all segments in order) pretty easily.

― musically, Saturday, 8 March 2008 03:55 (eighteen years ago)

Ah, here's a note from the webmaster:

"We'll continue to expand the archive, eventually bringing in clips from every Colbert Report episode back to the very first -- fully tagged, fully searchable and awaiting your comments and ratings."

omg!!

― musically, Saturday, 8 March 2008 03:56 (eighteen years ago)

dag, carole king. i would've loved to see her if she hadn't turned her face to plastic. it's like this funny, awesome, important person has been embalmed alive.

― tipsy mothra, Wednesday, 19 March 2008 05:55 (eighteen years ago)

four weeks pass...

well, HRC certainly has a gift for comic timing... NOT

― banriquit, Friday, 18 April 2008 22:13 (eighteen years ago)

i missed the whole Philly week.

― Dr Morbius, Sunday, 20 April 2008 19:23 (eighteen years ago)

Every single episode is here: http://www.comedycentral.com/colbertreport/index.jhtml

― musically, Sunday, 20 April 2008 20:28 (eighteen years ago)

one month passes...

ok. colbert on bob barr/libertarianism tonight was pretty funny, also right on.

― GOTT PUNCH II HAWKWINDZ, Thursday, 5 June 2008 04:08 (seventeen years ago)

one month passes...

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/01/05/AR2007010501613.html

I cornered a "Daily Show" writer, doing my best to get the inside track on a possible actor/writer gig. We broached the subject of black correspondents. He told me that they "tried a black guy once, but it didn't work out." I nearly threw my imported beer in his face. Tried it once and it didn't work? You say that about Toyotas, not a whole race of people. But to date, comedy writing is pretty whitewashed. As of this season, "Saturday Night Live" has no black writers. "The Daily Show" also doesn't have any, and neither does "The Colbert Report," a show on which I've played Stephen Colbert's black friend "Alan," a member of the staff. That's right. "The Colbert Report" had to hire an actor to play a black person who works on the show.

― and what, Wednesday, 23 July 2008 16:38 (seventeen years ago)

Black people aren't funny.

― Catsupppppppppppppp dude 茄蕃, Wednesday, 23 July 2008 16:41 (seventeen years ago)

No wonder they're skittish about mocking Obama's fraudulence.

― Dr Morbius, Wednesday, 23 July 2008 16:41 (seventeen years ago)

That's not true! Look at the Wayans family. It's just they aren't good at topical humor.

― Oilyrags, Wednesday, 23 July 2008 16:41 (seventeen years ago)

I guess black people just aren't interested in working on those shows.

― Tracer Hand, Wednesday, 23 July 2008 16:43 (seventeen years ago)

I laughed at some awards show when jon lauded the diversity of staff: "Joe's not Jewish and Mike has a beard."

― mizzell, Wednesday, 23 July 2008 16:44 (seventeen years ago)

wait, that's an old article. there is a black correspondant on daily show now.

― mizzell, Wednesday, 23 July 2008 16:45 (seventeen years ago)

or maybe not, he's not on the website.

― mizzell, Wednesday, 23 July 2008 16:48 (seventeen years ago)

http://www.nytimes.com/2007/04/02/arts/television/02wilm.html?ex=1333166400&en=a53de9776c93cc13&ei=5088&partner=rssnyt&emc=rss

― mizzell, Wednesday, 23 July 2008 16:49 (seventeen years ago)

He's really good but he seems to get used only for "black" stories.

― Tracer Hand, Wednesday, 23 July 2008 16:50 (seventeen years ago)

isn't that funny though?

― Catsupppppppppppppp dude 茄蕃, Wednesday, 23 July 2008 16:51 (seventeen years ago)

At this point I think it's no longer "meta".

― Tracer Hand, Wednesday, 23 July 2008 16:51 (seventeen years ago)

For whatever it's worth, "The Daily Show" has Wyatt Cenac now.

― Pleasant Plains, Wednesday, 23 July 2008 16:53 (seventeen years ago)

“Part of that niche on the show is covering some of the topics ‘The Daily Show’ has never had a chance to cover because sometimes you can take it better when it’s from somebody who’s your own kind,” Mr. Wilmore said. “A lot of times when something happens in a black neighborhood, they will send the one black correspondent to cover it. That was our satirical jumping-off point.”

― mizzell, Wednesday, 23 July 2008 16:54 (seventeen years ago)

oh, it's satirical

― and what, Wednesday, 23 July 2008 17:03 (seventeen years ago)

That's right. "The Colbert Report" had to hire an actor to play a black person who works on the show.

and bobby the stage manager is neither the stage manager nor a bobby and tad the building manager is neither the building manager nor a tad.

― sunny successor, Wednesday, 23 July 2008 17:08 (seventeen years ago)

No wonder they're skittish about mocking Obama's fraudulence.

If by "skittish" you mean "exuberant", sure.

― Casuistry, Wednesday, 23 July 2008 17:09 (seventeen years ago)

Admittedly I don't see TDS every night and can only take about 5-10 mins of Colbert at a time. The Obama-FISA jokes seem perfunctory and scarce in my recent viewings though.

― Dr Morbius, Wednesday, 23 July 2008 17:18 (seventeen years ago)

colbert guest tonight is nas i think

― johnny crunch, Wednesday, 23 July 2008 17:20 (seventeen years ago)

Mostly TDS has been making fun of the Obama-as-second-coming phenomenon, though they have poked at a few policy problematics.

― Casuistry, Wednesday, 23 July 2008 22:34 (seventeen years ago)

Morbs is on some Fox News level single-mindedness here.

― jon /via/ chi 2.0, Wednesday, 23 July 2008 22:43 (seventeen years ago)

well there was Jon's comment to the audience along the lines of "you guys, its okay to laugh at him," that seemed to say more about why they aren't scrambling all over themselves to get big laughs out of Obama right now. Their audience just doesn't want to laugh at this guy after all the self-pitying jokes about the Bush administration of the past eight years.

xpost.

― Clay, Wednesday, 23 July 2008 22:44 (seventeen years ago)

colbert with nas was some kinda funny.

― scott seward, Thursday, 24 July 2008 05:03 (seventeen years ago)

http://mattsanchez.typepad.com/photos/uncategorized/2008/02/28/diversity_violator.jpg

― yungblut, Thursday, 24 July 2008 05:18 (seventeen years ago)

the criminal intent episode with colbert was on last night

― get bent, Thursday, 24 July 2008 05:19 (seventeen years ago)

Morbs is on some Fox News level single-mindedness here.

Well, mostly because everyone here knows why McCrazy is appalling. And no one wants to talk about the other few thousand elections we're having in November.

― Dr Morbius, Thursday, 24 July 2008 13:22 (seventeen years ago)

two months pass...

http://www.marvel.com/i/content/st/5228new_storyimage2892013_full.jpg
Marvel is proud to reveal that Spider-Man and acclaimed television personality Stephen Colbert will join forces in an all new eight-page story featured in the extra-sized AMAZING SPIDER-MAN #573! Acclaimed writer Mark Waid and fan favorite artist Patrick Olliffe present Stephen Colbert, a candidate for the U.S. Presidency in the Marvel Universe, teaming up with Marvel's most iconic crime fighter. What could bring these two together? And what will it mean for both their futures? This issue also features a special Colbert variant by Marvel EiC and industry superstar Joe Quesada! Plus, don't miss the stunning conclusion to the sold out "New Ways To Die" from the dream team of Dan Slott & John Romita Jr!

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http://www.marvel.com/i/content/st/5119new_storyimage2280629_full.jpg

― abanana, Thursday, 16 October 2008 06:45 (seventeen years ago)

Henry Pawson and Ben Bunnake had me in tears.

― jermainetwo, Thursday, 16 October 2008 07:56 (seventeen years ago)

lol Cedric the Entertainer cameo.

― Johnny Fever, Thursday, 23 October 2008 03:36 (seventeen years ago)

I have to admit he's been funnier lately (eg, his Obama 'endorsement') than Stewart, which gives me some hope for the hybrid live show tonight.

― Dr Morbius, Tuesday, 4 November 2008 17:39 (seventeen years ago)

Best line was definitely the advice to McCain to endorse Obama as well. "Be a Maverick!"

― Alex in SF, Tuesday, 4 November 2008 17:41 (seventeen years ago)

he's been the funnier one for like 2 years

― que(ef) (tremendoid), Tuesday, 4 November 2008 17:53 (seventeen years ago)

it's possible. I always think 2 hours of pure parody per week is too much with that character, so I watch sparingly.

Best moment was the audibly crestfallen audience of Obamaniacs when he said "I'm endorsing him, not voting for him." Really, half of them don't get the joke, I SWEAR.

― Dr Morbius, Tuesday, 4 November 2008 18:28 (seventeen years ago)

Good thing you are on top of it.

― Alex in SF, Tuesday, 4 November 2008 18:34 (seventeen years ago)

he's been the funnier one for like 2 years

― que(ef) (tremendoid), Tuesday, November 4, 2008 11:53 AM (41 minutes ago) Bookmark

RONG. i mean, maybe pound for pound, but the Daily Show is still funnier than Colbert's hamming. I can tolerate maybe 1-2 Reports a week, otherwise the schtick is just too much

― the perfect blovian move (gbx), Tuesday, 4 November 2008 18:37 (seventeen years ago)

stewart forgets to tell jokes though, or bundles a bunch of throwaway jokes that don't amount to anything and calls it a monologue. lately he's been doing more than making faces and chuckling to himself (who the fuck is that guy is the best segment they've done in ages, in terms of funny and relevance) but colbert has waaay better writing from show to show. i look at it more like a variety show as opposed to the DS which is expected to stay on point more often, maybe that helps.

― que(ef) (tremendoid), Tuesday, 4 November 2008 19:16 (seventeen years ago)

I think the Stewart/Colbert funniness ratio really depends on how much serious political news there is for the former to dissect or the latter to bounce broader gags off of. A year ago I was enjoying Colbert more, and probably will next year too, but for most of the election season he's felt really lightweight and toothless compared to his lead-in.

― some dude, Tuesday, 4 November 2008 19:18 (seventeen years ago)

I think maybe it's because the entire campaign felt lightweight and toothless that I thought SC's was a better response than JS's mounting outrage.

― Dr Morbius, Tuesday, 4 November 2008 19:23 (seventeen years ago)

Yeah, pretty boring election year, they didn't have much to work with, did they.

― some dude, Tuesday, 4 November 2008 19:25 (seventeen years ago)

Last night, the Daily Show did a segment on Cheney and I was like, uh-oh, here comes ten minutes of Penguin imitations and "incredulous" mugs.

― ☑ (Pleasant Plains), Tuesday, 4 November 2008 19:27 (seventeen years ago)

i thought colbert was funnier than JS when he was on the daily show. all js seems to do these days is giggle like a shocked schoolgirl and the occasional jewish impression

― a country packed with ponies (sunny successor), Tuesday, 4 November 2008 19:29 (seventeen years ago)

all the mugging Stewart does is what comedy consisted of before God gave us Apatow. I usually find it charming.

yeah, elections where most of the issues are never brought up are kinda boring.

― Dr Morbius, Tuesday, 4 November 2008 19:30 (seventeen years ago)

mugging /= Apatow? do you ever think out your bullshit binaries?

― some dude, Tuesday, 4 November 2008 19:32 (seventeen years ago)

I meant FUNNY mugging, like Milton Berle

― Dr Morbius, Tuesday, 4 November 2008 19:33 (seventeen years ago)

There's no way that Jon Stewart has a cock the size of Milton Berle's.

Ergo, he should stop with the mugging and make with the funny out-of-context newsclips.

― ☑ (Pleasant Plains), Tuesday, 4 November 2008 19:35 (seventeen years ago)

two weeks pass...

― clotpoll, Thursday, 20 November 2008 05:31 (seventeen years ago)

Christmas special Sunday night.

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/11/20/arts/television/20colb.html

― Dr Morbius, Thursday, 20 November 2008 20:52 (seventeen years ago)

Colbert interviewed, out of character:

http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=97191965

― James Mitchell, Thursday, 20 November 2008 22:02 (seventeen years ago)

two months pass...

jeez, he had that stupefying inaugural poet on last night. I turned it off before she appeared, I didn't relish seeing her humiliate herself again.

― Dr Morbius, Thursday, 22 January 2009 20:08 (seventeen years ago)

that interview may be the best thing McCartney's done in 30 years

― Dr Morbius, Friday, 30 January 2009 15:08 (seventeen years ago)

three weeks pass...

this braddock, pennsylvania mayor is pretty smart! too bad he looks like an ex-con.

― the pelvis of a mammoth (get bent), Thursday, 26 February 2009 07:56 (seventeen years ago)

hold on i got it dvred

― tremendoid, Thursday, 26 February 2009 07:57 (seventeen years ago)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Braddock,_Pennsylvania

From its peak in the 1950s, Braddock has since lost 90% of its population.

― the pelvis of a mammoth (get bent), Thursday, 26 February 2009 08:01 (seventeen years ago)

that brother was solid. stephen took real cheap shots at the guy wtf

― tremendoid, Thursday, 26 February 2009 08:07 (seventeen years ago)

yeah i know wtf

i like the agit-goth look of the braddock website: http://www.15104.cc/index.html

― the pelvis of a mammoth (get bent), Thursday, 26 February 2009 08:09 (seventeen years ago)

large enough to matter. small enough to impact

― tremendoid, Thursday, 26 February 2009 08:16 (seventeen years ago)

that's really smart strategy srly as long as he has the wherewithal not to get pwned by whoever shows up

― tremendoid, Thursday, 26 February 2009 08:20 (seventeen years ago)

i liked the Sbarro bit - "Crust Lover's Pizza"

― Dr Morbius, Thursday, 26 February 2009 11:56 (seventeen years ago)

Wow, he went the extra mile of awesome with that David Byrne interview.

― Johnny Fever, Tuesday, 3 March 2009 04:54 (seventeen years ago)

Yeah. Talkin like artist to artist, maaan

― burt_stanton, Tuesday, 3 March 2009 04:56 (seventeen years ago)

He was in high form tonight.

STEPHEN COLBERT'S DOOM BUNKER

― kingfish, Thursday, 5 March 2009 07:50 (seventeen years ago)

Wow, he went the extra mile of awesome with that David Byrne interview.

― Johnny Fever, Monday, March 2, 2009 10:54 PM (3 days ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

Yeah. Talkin like artist to artist, maaan

― burt_stanton, Monday, March 2, 2009 10:56 PM (3 days ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

Yeah, it was one of the rare times I've ever seen Colbert interview someone almost like it was a real interview. I mean, those were real questions, disguised as "real" questions. "When is being on the cutting edge going to get stale" isn't the dumb question that it's supposed to sound like. For Byrne, it's like a central preoccupation.

― kenan, Thursday, 5 March 2009 08:05 (seventeen years ago)

"In the dark of night, who does David Byrne fear David Byrne is?" Even though the audience laughed, that's a very David-Byrne-level question. Terry Gross wouldn't ask it.

― kenan, Thursday, 5 March 2009 08:08 (seventeen years ago)

Or maybe she would, but it would sound awful from her.

― kenan, Thursday, 5 March 2009 08:11 (seventeen years ago)

Colbert doesn't suffer from latent Jewademia-without-understanding/humanity ''Secular Humanist'' faker syndrome. Will find the local retarded bitch who's always laughing, getting trolled by some guy who calls himself Frank, and ruining the odd Deepak Chopra interview.
Colbert has episodes of Fallon syndrome though.
Rather hulu Dollhouse.
Obnoxious liberal signing out.

― facere (Jackie Wilson), Thursday, 5 March 2009 08:19 (seventeen years ago)

?

― Johnny Fever, Thursday, 5 March 2009 08:23 (seventeen years ago)

wat

― steve "no neck" yamaguchi (vermonter), Thursday, 5 March 2009 08:29 (seventeen years ago)

Will find the local retarded bitch who's always laughing, getting trolled by some guy who calls himself Frank, and ruining the odd Deepak Chopra interview. uh that's supposed to be about npr

― facere (Jackie Wilson), Thursday, 5 March 2009 08:29 (seventeen years ago)

or maybe david lynch

― facere (Jackie Wilson), Thursday, 5 March 2009 08:29 (seventeen years ago)

― facere (Jackie Wilson), Thursday, 5 March 2009 08:30 (seventeen years ago)

Wow. We got a live one here.

― kenan, Thursday, 5 March 2009 08:30 (seventeen years ago)

Your search - Jewademia - did not match any documents.

― kenan, Thursday, 5 March 2009 08:34 (seventeen years ago)

DOOM BUNKER and daily show's CNBC thing were both amazing. i mean, DOOM BUNKER was only accentuating beck's crazy by a fraction, but it was still hilarious.

― i'd rather cut cane for castro (GOTT PUNCH II HAWKWINDZ), Thursday, 5 March 2009 08:36 (seventeen years ago)

My dad totally takes Glen Beck seriously. :(

― kenan, Thursday, 5 March 2009 08:37 (seventeen years ago)

"Crank up the crazy and rip off the knob."

― kenan, Thursday, 5 March 2009 08:58 (seventeen years ago)

"werewolf congress"

― schlump, Thursday, 5 March 2009 14:10 (seventeen years ago)

thanks for reminding me...

― WEREWOLF CONGRESS (GOTT PUNCH II HAWKWINDZ), Thursday, 5 March 2009 14:19 (seventeen years ago)

jeez this was so great

― johnny crunch, Friday, 6 March 2009 01:47 (seventeen years ago)

colbert was just on the today show. as they're finishing up the interview, meredith viera is attempting to segue into the next segment about twitter and asks colbert "do you twitter? do you tweet?" and colbert responds "i have twatted." viera kind of chuckles nervously and says "oh my gosh ... so have i."

― congratulations (n/a), Thursday, 19 March 2009 13:18 (seventeen years ago)

hehehehe

― Past a Diving Jeter (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 19 March 2009 13:35 (seventeen years ago)

wow at the michael steele rap

― congratulations (n/a), Friday, 20 March 2009 15:35 (seventeen years ago)

http://www.colbertnation.com/the-colbert-report-videos/222214/march-19-2009/michael-steele-s-rap-battle-response

― congratulations (n/a), Friday, 20 March 2009 15:36 (seventeen years ago)

NASA trying hard to be as lame as possible

― Roberto Mussolini (Shakey Mo Collier), Monday, 23 March 2009 22:34 (seventeen years ago)

two months pass...

A new look for summer!

http://i2.cdn.turner.com/cnn/2009/WORLD/meast/06/07/colbert.iraq/art.stephen.colbert.uso.jpg

The interview was interrupted when President Obama appeared on large television screens. The commander-in-chief told his general it was time to "cut that man's hair."

With white electric hair clippers in his hand, Ordierno stood up and began shaving Colbert's trademark thick dark hair. The troops stood and cheered as a female member of Colbert's staff finished the job.

― kingfish, Monday, 8 June 2009 08:50 (sixteen years ago)

btw tom hanks is like actually funny and really likeable in that bit

― i like to fart and i am crazy (gbx), Friday, 12 June 2009 02:07 (sixteen years ago)

the basic training 2-parter was hilarious...esp iphone mounted on his helmet

― VegemiteGrrrl, Friday, 12 June 2009 03:03 (sixteen years ago)

i thought the three episodes were progressively less funny, the third one not really funny at all. the first was great though.

― Maria, Friday, 12 June 2009 03:05 (sixteen years ago)

the on-stage interview with the two soldiers, the guy and the girl, was kinda awkward.

― VegemiteGrrrl, Friday, 12 June 2009 03:39 (sixteen years ago)

three months pass...

Richard Dawkins: "You asked me for the evidence for evolution, what is the evidence for God?"
Colbert: "Reese's Peanut Butter Cups."

― congratulations (n/a), Thursday, 1 October 2009 13:50 (sixteen years ago)

John D on tonight!

― forksclovetofu, Tuesday, 6 October 2009 15:57 (sixteen years ago)

:o

― A Patch on Blazing Saddles (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 6 October 2009 16:03 (sixteen years ago)

cool

― rent, Tuesday, 6 October 2009 16:53 (sixteen years ago)

good luck, usa

― bnw, Wednesday, 7 October 2009 03:02 (sixteen years ago)

Stay wrist strong J0hn D.

― existential eggs (Abbott), Wednesday, 7 October 2009 03:23 (sixteen years ago)

stoked

― iiiijjjj, Wednesday, 7 October 2009 03:49 (sixteen years ago)

how do i watch live ON INTERNET

― butt sound insanity (gbx), Wednesday, 7 October 2009 03:55 (sixteen years ago)

You don't. But they put it up in a few hours.

― tie me up, dress in drag, and read to me from the bible (kenan), Wednesday, 7 October 2009 03:56 (sixteen years ago)

what in the hell

― butt sound insanity (gbx), Wednesday, 7 October 2009 03:58 (sixteen years ago)

i thought this was 2009

― butt sound insanity (gbx), Wednesday, 7 October 2009 03:58 (sixteen years ago)

i'm going to bed >:(

― butt sound insanity (gbx), Wednesday, 7 October 2009 03:58 (sixteen years ago)

:D nice!!

― feed them to the (Linden Ave) lions (will), Wednesday, 7 October 2009 04:00 (sixteen years ago)

this post keeps updating and no one says what song was played, have pity on a poor West Coaster

― "apostrophe" is not Latin for "watch out for the S" (reddening), Wednesday, 7 October 2009 04:01 (sixteen years ago)

"Psalms 40:2," I think

― iiiijjjj, Wednesday, 7 October 2009 04:05 (sixteen years ago)

they ruled!

― iiiijjjj, Wednesday, 7 October 2009 04:05 (sixteen years ago)

ho shit the crazy one? stoked

― "apostrophe" is not Latin for "watch out for the S" (reddening), Wednesday, 7 October 2009 04:07 (sixteen years ago)

You watch it on the internet...tomorrow. They air reruns on hulu.

― existential eggs (Abbott), Wednesday, 7 October 2009 04:15 (sixteen years ago)

so awesome

― govern yourself accordingly, Wednesday, 7 October 2009 04:18 (sixteen years ago)

nice tie!

― A Patch on Blazing Saddles (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 7 October 2009 04:20 (sixteen years ago)

Missed the interview because I was posting to ILM, but I caught the performance, which was indeed "Psalms 40:2."

― kshighway1, Wednesday, 7 October 2009 04:30 (sixteen years ago)

this was great

― iatee, Wednesday, 7 October 2009 06:55 (sixteen years ago)

Up now, btw.

http://www.comedycentral.com/colbertreport/full-episodes/index.jhtml?episodeId=251054

― tie me up, dress in drag, and read to me from the bible (kenan), Wednesday, 7 October 2009 10:57 (sixteen years ago)

And if you need help getting to that desolate place where there can only be hope that John talks about, the online stream makes you watch the same Jack Daniel commercial four times.

― tie me up, dress in drag, and read to me from the bible (kenan), Wednesday, 7 October 2009 11:10 (sixteen years ago)

I didn't know that was how you pronounced D-

― power, corruption & plies (dyao), Wednesday, 7 October 2009 11:21 (sixteen years ago)

BOO not available in the UK although the channel showing CR here is obscure as fuck and doesn't hold videos of any CRs.

― edward everett horton hears a who (suzy), Wednesday, 7 October 2009 11:53 (sixteen years ago)

ha this was great

― rent, Wednesday, 7 October 2009 13:04 (sixteen years ago)

from the Colbert twitter: "the mountain goats would have a twitter page if the crushing emptiness of life could be expressed in 140 characters" about 14 hours ago from web

― CharlieS, Wednesday, 7 October 2009 20:07 (sixteen years ago)

Have you gotten the Colbert bump J0hn D.?

― existential eggs (Abbott), Wednesday, 7 October 2009 20:19 (sixteen years ago)

i was gonna ask!
Also, you should've dedicated the song to the memory of cankles.

― forksclovetofu, Wednesday, 7 October 2009 20:20 (sixteen years ago)

lol @ "WHO WAS SHE AND HOW DID SHE HURT YOU"

― VegemiteGrrrl, Wednesday, 7 October 2009 20:32 (sixteen years ago)

J0hn should have paused meaningfully and said, "Charlene."

― edward everett horton hears a who (suzy), Wednesday, 7 October 2009 20:33 (sixteen years ago)

loooollll!!

― VegemiteGrrrl, Wednesday, 7 October 2009 21:40 (sixteen years ago)

Have you gotten the Colbert bump J0hn D.?

The album is up 33% on Amazon today.

― katherine helmand province (jaymc), Wednesday, 7 October 2009 21:47 (sixteen years ago)

ok that was the first time you ever creeped me out with knowledge

― that LIVING GOD WHO WALKS THIS PLANET EARTH IN HUCKSTER'S SHOES. (WmC), Wednesday, 7 October 2009 21:50 (sixteen years ago)

Dude, I just looked it up!

― katherine helmand province (jaymc), Wednesday, 7 October 2009 21:52 (sixteen years ago)

how did you know 33%?

― pariah carey (Mr. Que), Wednesday, 7 October 2009 21:53 (sixteen years ago)

Yeah, that's the part I wondered. Did you look it up yesterday too?

― that LIVING GOD WHO WALKS THIS PLANET EARTH IN HUCKSTER'S SHOES. (WmC), Wednesday, 7 October 2009 21:55 (sixteen years ago)

did you guys read the viewer comments on the Colbert site? not a mountain goat lover amongst 'em. jerks.

― VegemiteGrrrl, Wednesday, 7 October 2009 21:55 (sixteen years ago)

jaymc has PSYCHIC CONNNECTION TO AMAZON.

― VegemiteGrrrl, Wednesday, 7 October 2009 21:55 (sixteen years ago)

Jaymazon

― Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 7 October 2009 21:55 (sixteen years ago)

Good stuff!

― etaeoe, Wednesday, 7 October 2009 21:55 (sixteen years ago)

Amazon automatically updates jaymc.xls with sales information for all ilxor-related artists/bands/authors.

― & other try hard shitfests (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Wednesday, 7 October 2009 21:56 (sixteen years ago)

jaymc are you really jeff bezos? (your laugh will prove this btw)

― VegemiteGrrrl, Wednesday, 7 October 2009 21:56 (sixteen years ago)

jaymc, is Ned's Pi up or down year-to-date?

― that LIVING GOD WHO WALKS THIS PLANET EARTH IN HUCKSTER'S SHOES. (WmC), Wednesday, 7 October 2009 21:57 (sixteen years ago)

jaymc what are your projected sales figures for Bob Dylan's Christmas album?

― VegemiteGrrrl, Wednesday, 7 October 2009 22:02 (sixteen years ago)

Yeah yeah yeah.
http://www.amazon.com/gp/movers-and-shakers/music

― katherine helmand province (jaymc), Wednesday, 7 October 2009 22:04 (sixteen years ago)

Guys Amazon is not shy about telling you this kind of thing. Mellow.

― tie me up, dress in drag, and read to me from the bible (kenan), Wednesday, 7 October 2009 22:04 (sixteen years ago)

xp Yeah, that.

― tie me up, dress in drag, and read to me from the bible (kenan), Wednesday, 7 October 2009 22:05 (sixteen years ago)

oh hush like yr immune to teasing

― BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Wednesday, 7 October 2009 22:06 (sixteen years ago)

btw, have watched this again and it made me very happy, and I am listening to The Sunset Tree this afternoon and it's also making me extremely happy. Even if it isn't really supposed to.

― tie me up, dress in drag, and read to me from the bible (kenan), Wednesday, 7 October 2009 22:06 (sixteen years ago)

like yr immune to teasing

One of the last things in the world I would claim, just shy of "I am the king of all watermelon trees" and "Every morning I give birth to an army of poo-bots."

― tie me up, dress in drag, and read to me from the bible (kenan), Wednesday, 7 October 2009 22:09 (sixteen years ago)

xpost happy in the way that you know it won't get any worse, right? :)

― VegemiteGrrrl, Wednesday, 7 October 2009 22:09 (sixteen years ago)

on a side note, who is Chris Tomlin and why is his Christmas album moving and shaking?

― VegemiteGrrrl, Wednesday, 7 October 2009 22:11 (sixteen years ago)

kenan you gotta get me in on this watermelon racket!

― existential eggs (Abbott), Wednesday, 7 October 2009 22:12 (sixteen years ago)

What part of "king" do you not understand?

― tie me up, dress in drag, and read to me from the bible (kenan), Wednesday, 7 October 2009 22:12 (sixteen years ago)

Back to the pi question plz

― Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 7 October 2009 22:13 (sixteen years ago)

there is such a thing as a nice king, you know

― VegemiteGrrrl, Wednesday, 7 October 2009 22:13 (sixteen years ago)

But not one that voluntarily gives away the powers given to him by God. I can't share watermelon trees any more than I could share Excalibur. Which I also have, btw.

― tie me up, dress in drag, and read to me from the bible (kenan), Wednesday, 7 October 2009 22:18 (sixteen years ago)

do you use Excalibur to chop up the watermelons? that's what I would do if I were king.

― VegemiteGrrrl, Wednesday, 7 October 2009 22:22 (sixteen years ago)

Hooray, this performance was kick-ass! I watched with my (mainstream Christian) father, who was charmed by the interview and clearly expected a song called "Psalms 40:2" to sound, uh, different than it did.

― "apostrophe" is not Latin for "watch out for the S" (reddening), Wednesday, 7 October 2009 23:33 (sixteen years ago)

I'll be able to see this tomorrow, in America. YAY.

― edward everett horton hears a who (suzy), Wednesday, 7 October 2009 23:51 (sixteen years ago)

I think Colbert was as happy to meet John D. as John D. was to be on his show. Look at this happy man.

http://i72.photobucket.com/albums/i191/fluxion23/colbert_charmed.jpg

― tie me up, dress in drag, and read to me from the bible (kenan), Friday, 9 October 2009 22:24 (sixteen years ago)

kenan your new username is amazing.

― existential eggs (Abbott), Friday, 9 October 2009 22:37 (sixteen years ago)

HA thanks. I can't remember what thread that's from. Something on TMI.

― tie me up, dress in drag, and read to me from the bible (kenan), Friday, 9 October 2009 22:40 (sixteen years ago)

Completely bummed I cannot view this in NZ, and even those these things are the lowest dregs of the internet those video comments are infuriating and saddening for a stan. I do take solace though in the fact that J0hn is 100,000 times the music critic anyone who has dared clown him is.

― Big King Buggle Sprayer (╓abies), Saturday, 10 October 2009 02:01 (sixteen years ago)

Actually, the facts that I'm right they're wrong and the Goats pwn are providing the bulk of solace tbh.

― Big King Buggle Sprayer (╓abies), Saturday, 10 October 2009 02:02 (sixteen years ago)

it's available on rapidshare (not linking 'cause of ILLEGAL but it's an easy google)

― surfing on hokusine waves (ledge), Saturday, 10 October 2009 09:21 (sixteen years ago)

BOO not available in the UK although the channel showing CR here is obscure as fuck and doesn't hold videos of any CRs.

I didn't know anyone had picked it up since FX UK dropped it. Who has it now?

― trishyb, Saturday, 10 October 2009 09:30 (sixteen years ago)

is colbertnation.com not available overseas?

― musically, Saturday, 10 October 2009 20:45 (sixteen years ago)

It is, but you can only watch each show segment by segment, rather than play the whole episode in one go.

― trishyb, Saturday, 10 October 2009 20:54 (sixteen years ago)

Sometime over the past couple of weeks, both TDS and TCR websites have dropped *all* video content for UK viewers, even in clip form. Going to be a pain when there's another truncated interview...

― carson dial, Saturday, 10 October 2009 20:57 (sixteen years ago)

Maybe one of the C4 stations is about to pick it up?

― edward everett horton hears a who (suzy), Sunday, 11 October 2009 04:15 (sixteen years ago)

Well, it's been off the air since the end of April, so if they are, it would be nice if they got around to it soon.

― trishyb, Sunday, 11 October 2009 09:44 (sixteen years ago)

More4 News is being dropped (as well as Channel 4 News at Noon), so that leaves that 8:00 block open for both the Colbert Report and the Daily Show. I don't know that it'll happen, but the option is there.

― The Devil's Avocado (Gukbe), Sunday, 11 October 2009 13:11 (sixteen years ago)

three weeks pass...

There is an eagle or some sort of bird outside that keeps making the EXACT sound that the eagle makes in the Colbert credits and each time I hear it my brain thinks the show is starting.

― iatee, Wednesday, 4 November 2009 20:54 (sixteen years ago)

The first five notes of his song are the same as the first five notes of the "American Family Insurance" jingle, so it always makes me think of insurance.

― we are normal and we want our freedom (Abbott), Wednesday, 4 November 2009 20:57 (sixteen years ago)

What, the "come all ye faithful" bit?

― Øystein, Wednesday, 4 November 2009 21:15 (sixteen years ago)

yes

― we are normal and we want our freedom (Abbott), Wednesday, 4 November 2009 21:20 (sixteen years ago)

Colbert boosts U.S. speed skating team

― naus, Wednesday, 4 November 2009 21:23 (sixteen years ago)

♫♪ A-mer-i-can Fam-ly In-suure-ance ♫♪

I only recall that bit from when it played on KDOM as a kid, not a jingle per se.

― the jun togawa of farting (╓abies), Thursday, 5 November 2009 01:23 (sixteen years ago)

hero: http://wonkette.com/412020/heartbreaking-bill-donohue-has-some-tivo-to-catch-up-on

― feed them to the (Linden Ave) lions (will), Thursday, 5 November 2009 16:42 (sixteen years ago)

That's delightful!

― we are normal and we want our freedom (Abbott), Thursday, 5 November 2009 16:50 (sixteen years ago)

:D

― how rad bandit (gbx), Thursday, 5 November 2009 19:14 (sixteen years ago)

two months pass...

I guess I'll watch the rerun of this Harold Ford smackdown, eh

― Rage, Resentment, Spleen (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 3 February 2010 01:30 (sixteen years ago)

oh, i guess they don't rerun these 8-9 anymore? ever?

― Rage, Resentment, Spleen (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 3 February 2010 01:33 (sixteen years ago)

ehh, i thought the guy was pretty smooth, he could spit reassuring pro-america platitudes as quick as colbert. there's some damning facts but i thought he made excuses people would buy.

― schlump, Wednesday, 3 February 2010 02:22 (sixteen years ago)

ie inspiring contemporary Democrat. I wish I could shit in the voting booth.

― Rage, Resentment, Spleen (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 3 February 2010 02:23 (sixteen years ago)

ha ha

― schlump, Wednesday, 3 February 2010 02:25 (sixteen years ago)

I'm a sucker for the lamest "Pelosi = replicant" joke

― Fusty Moralizer (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 9 February 2010 17:31 (sixteen years ago)

I dunno if they're guilty of this more now or I'm just noticing it more because I've been watching both shows more consistently in the last few months, but I'm getting tired of watching Colbert make similar jokes about the exact same stories I just saw Stewart do 20 minutes earlier. Feels like there should be more coordination between their writing staffs to keep material from feeling redundant.

― Busty Oralizer (some dude), Tuesday, 9 February 2010 21:05 (sixteen years ago)

oh, i guess they don't rerun these 8-9 anymore? ever?

― Rage, Resentment, Spleen (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, February 2, 2010 8:33 PM

did u check the internet for reruns

http://vodpod.com/watch/2973613-colbert-nails-harold-ford-jr-on-pro-choice-gay-marriage-flip-flops

― am0n, Tuesday, 9 February 2010 21:09 (sixteen years ago)

stephen does this quick, tense inhale through clenched teeth thing immediately following jokes more and more these days i've noticed. watch for it - you'll be glad you did.

― iiiijjjj, Wednesday, 10 February 2010 16:16 (sixteen years ago)

Fave thing I saw this week was when the evermore-defensive audience groaned at him when he did a lead-in about "crashing and burning Obama presidency"; he did a quick take and an "oh, wake up" aside -- both in and out of character.

― Fusty Moralizer (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 10 February 2010 16:20 (sixteen years ago)

iiiijjjj I've always noticed that too

― Evan, Wednesday, 10 February 2010 17:55 (sixteen years ago)

one month passes...

love colbert spazzing out over the true meaning of "scots-irish"

― gabourey weaver (get bent), Thursday, 18 March 2010 06:55 (sixteen years ago)

three months pass...

http://tv.gawker.com/5581604/even-stepvhen-returns-as-steve-carell-makes-his-first-colbert-report-appearance

"focus group: the movie, starring non-threatening white guy" <---- loooool

― D, dilly, dillies, dill, d-bombs (history mayne), Monday, 12 July 2010 09:44 (fifteen years ago)

that and the opening of that episode made me very very happy.

― Pants Perdu (GOTT PUNCH II HAWKWINDZ), Monday, 12 July 2010 10:11 (fifteen years ago)

two weeks pass...

Thing he did last night w the graphics attacking Tony Hayward, was brilliant and awesome.

― Beach Pomade (Adam Bruneau), Wednesday, 28 July 2010 15:23 (fifteen years ago)

http://tv.gawker.com/5603948/stephen-colbert-calls-laura-ingraham-racist-who-cant-write

― ('_') (omar little), Wednesday, 4 August 2010 18:33 (fifteen years ago)

oh wow amazing

― horseshoe, Wednesday, 4 August 2010 18:36 (fifteen years ago)

yeah we watched that last night, it was OUCH

― Mayor Hickenlooper and the liberal agenda (HI DERE), Wednesday, 4 August 2010 18:36 (fifteen years ago)

i am going to watch it again and again

― horseshoe, Wednesday, 4 August 2010 18:37 (fifteen years ago)

she's so awkward!

― ('_') (omar little), Wednesday, 4 August 2010 18:38 (fifteen years ago)

oh cool, rerunning right now.

― My totem animal is a hamburger. (WmC), Wednesday, 4 August 2010 18:39 (fifteen years ago)

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

― j0rdan sgt's tartan shorts club ban (crüt), Wednesday, 4 August 2010 18:41 (fifteen years ago)

lol I don't watch this regularly anymore but damn Colbert always brings it

― better check that sausage before you put it in the waffle (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 4 August 2010 18:45 (fifteen years ago)

just watched it - don't see colbert get that aggressive much anymore, pretty nice to see

― Nhex, Wednesday, 4 August 2010 19:04 (fifteen years ago)

it's kind of sad how she tries to act like she's in on his joke, like the jokes are not being aimed at her at all. if you want to consider it sad and not justly pathetic.

― ('_') (omar little), Wednesday, 4 August 2010 19:05 (fifteen years ago)

she knows enough to know that appearing humorless on his show is even worse

― better check that sausage before you put it in the waffle (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 4 August 2010 19:09 (fifteen years ago)

Also, Laura? Banshees are not Native American. They're Irish.

― trishyb, Wednesday, 4 August 2010 21:47 (fifteen years ago)

maybe she confused Siouxsie with the Banshees

― Mosquepanik at Ground Zero (abanana), Thursday, 5 August 2010 04:21 (fifteen years ago)

Colbert should apologize to Banshees.

― oreo speed wiggum (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Thursday, 5 August 2010 18:22 (fifteen years ago)

one month passes...

HAAAAA

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/09/22/stephen-colbert-testify-congress-immigration_n_735464.html

Stephen Colbert To Testify Before Congress On Immigration
First Posted: 09-22-10 04:38 PM | Updated: 09-22-10 04:38 PM

...

Colbert will be appearing with United Farm Workers (UFW) President Arturo S. Rodriguez before the House Judiciary Committee's Subcommittee on Immigration, Citizenship, Refugees, Border Security, and International Law. In August, the comedian spent a day working at a corn and vegetable farm in New York state after Rodriguez appeared on his show to discuss UFW's "Take Our Jobs" campaign.

....

According to The Daily Caller, Colbert will be appearing "in character," and some Republicans are upset that he will be at the hearing because it may "make light of a serious issue."

― Jaw dropping, thong dropping monster (kingfish), Friday, 24 September 2010 06:16 (fifteen years ago)

haha, awesome. totes looking forward to hearing the quick, tense inhale through clenched teeth thing on the chamber floor

― del griffith, Friday, 24 September 2010 06:22 (fifteen years ago)

"I don't want a tomato picked by a Mexican. I want it picked by an American, then sliced by a Guatemalan and served by a Venezuelan at a spa where a Chilean gives me a Brazilian." That, plus jokes about C-SPAN and colonoscopies within the first two minutes of his five-minute congressional testimony:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/09/24/stephen-colbert-hearing-v_n_737813.html

― del griffith, Friday, 24 September 2010 16:19 (fifteen years ago)

two months pass...

LOLz @ last night's show w Steve Martin & awesome guest star famous artists.

― Telephoneface (Adam Bruneau), Thursday, 9 December 2010 17:45 (fifteen years ago)

two months pass...

jeez, Sondheim must've really enjoyed his interview on TCR in December:

http://www.backstage.com/bso/news-and-features-news/stephen-colbert-joins-sondheim-musical-at-1005027662.story

― kind of shrill and very self-righteous (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 10 February 2011 16:09 (fifteen years ago)

two weeks pass...

Everybody has been talking about this (not here, I don't think) and I'm glad I wasn't the only one who noticed.

Anybody notice this moment on Colbert last night?

http://i1208.photobucket.com/albums/cc364/aerialnostalgia/Picture14-1.png

― Wacky Way Lounge (Evan), Saturday, 26 February 2011 02:50 (fifteen years ago)

huh

― got electrolytes (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Saturday, 26 February 2011 04:06 (fifteen years ago)

It showed up on one frame during a talk about the internet group "Anonymous"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9hc5sMeCpVI

― Wacky Way Lounge (Evan), Saturday, 26 February 2011 05:04 (fifteen years ago)

Thank you! I thought I was going a bit mental.

― trishyb, Saturday, 26 February 2011 10:32 (fifteen years ago)

Don't you think the Colbert team is clever enough to include something like that themselves? Perfectly germaine creepyLOL if they're talking about WikiLeaks.

― anna sui generis (suzy), Saturday, 26 February 2011 11:15 (fifteen years ago)

Who said they didn't include it themselves?

― trishyb, Saturday, 26 February 2011 15:16 (fifteen years ago)

It was just so subtle and unaddressed that people are getting talking about it.

― Wacky Way Lounge (Evan), Saturday, 26 February 2011 16:06 (fifteen years ago)

are talking*

― Wacky Way Lounge (Evan), Saturday, 26 February 2011 16:08 (fifteen years ago)

Anonymous isn't *that* good ffs... it's a bunch of high-schoolers endowed with acne and insane hacking skills, but only in the realm of website code. Doubt they could ever hack into something big as Comedy Central. And yeh, I realize the MasterCard thing but that was only their customer website.

― kelpolaris, Saturday, 26 February 2011 18:19 (fifteen years ago)

yeah i'm sure comedy central got everything locked down

― j., Saturday, 26 February 2011 18:35 (fifteen years ago)

Anonymous would have to know what the content of the night's show was before it aired and, between the time it taped at 5:30 and the time it aired at 11:30, hacked in to the finished product (which probably was only completed at about 9pm or so), watched it, come up with the idea to put a Guy Fawkes mask on Stephen, and then RE-render the video all w/o anyone noticing.

Why does anyone think Anonymous is behind it? It's a very Colbert-style joke anyway.

― Johnny Fever, Saturday, 26 February 2011 18:45 (fifteen years ago)

anonymous isn't really a single group afaik. some daily show editor probably reads 4chan is all.

― a nan, a bal, an anal ― (abanana), Saturday, 26 February 2011 18:48 (fifteen years ago)

^^this is what i was thinking

― ҉ _ǁÖǁ_ ҉ __ (will), Saturday, 26 February 2011 18:49 (fifteen years ago)

There's surely no way this was anything other than an in-joke by the Colbert people.

― trishyb, Saturday, 26 February 2011 19:16 (fifteen years ago)

having put exactly 12 seconds of thought into this, my opinion is that if somehow someone managed to gain access to the footage before it was aired and altered it, they would have changed altered way more than one frame.

― Z S, Saturday, 26 February 2011 19:19 (fifteen years ago)

fwiw Colbert routinely engages the "Internet massive". this is clearly a hat tip

― ullr saves (gbx), Saturday, 26 February 2011 20:09 (fifteen years ago)

^ right

Somehow he's managed to associate himself/vice versa with Reddit, which for the unfamiliar, is officially a news aggregator but unofficially a meme disseminator (two words i've made up, according to spellcheck) amongst other things. It's largely composed of 19yr old men-children who fawn over the latest videogames and hail The God Delusion as the most complex work ever written, but anyways, I'm far aside the point that colbert is very internet conscious show:
http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_0X1ggm5ZqsA/TNMZBxNMN3I/AAAAAAAAJSw/Juy9-8EmIMg/s1600/ColbertReddit.JPG

― kelpolaris, Saturday, 26 February 2011 21:02 (fifteen years ago)

^this was just in the midst of him shuffling papers, not like he actually held up the paper and went "shout out ya'll"

― kelpolaris, Saturday, 26 February 2011 21:03 (fifteen years ago)

yeah he's huge over on reddit---like, gave them an "interview" iirc

― ullr saves (gbx), Saturday, 26 February 2011 21:34 (fifteen years ago)

I'm a few weeks behind so this may have already happened, but didn't Colbert say Bansky was going to "add his touch" to the show at some point? Is this a Banksy thing?

― rendezvous then i'm through with HOOS (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Saturday, 26 February 2011 22:12 (fifteen years ago)

i do not understand the popularity of reddit

― a nan, a bal, an anal ― (abanana), Saturday, 26 February 2011 23:04 (fifteen years ago)

it's memes, mostly. appeals to a certain clientele of internet-surfer... college-attending, self-pitying (the "forever alone" meme is likely amongst the most popular, ever), frequent videogame player. there's "subreddits" like forums, the most popular being - like i mentioned - mostly things revolving around the latest memes, international news, or atheism (the "confessionals" are particularly hilarious and always play out the same).

i admit the site can be righteously hilarious at times but i've never thought it enough so that i truly wanted to be a part of the community and comment on stuff.

avoid r/music unless you really want the reminder that there exists a far greater community outside ilxor that values music you would never. ever.

― kelpolaris, Saturday, 26 February 2011 23:11 (fifteen years ago)

i guess what i'm trying to say that it's basically the hotspot for that little niche of culture, the modern nerd or whatever. the hardcore nerd belongs on 4chan, where i only venture if in desperate need of entertainment.

― kelpolaris, Saturday, 26 February 2011 23:14 (fifteen years ago)

reddit is fun to peek in on from time to time, but 4chan is creepy and upsetting.

― Johnny Fever, Saturday, 26 February 2011 23:16 (fifteen years ago)

4chan is all kinds of wrong. My housemate is a goon (ie SomethingAwful member) and the other day I acidentally implied it was 4chan he hangs out on and he was completely horrified and at great pains to correct me ha.

― gnarly gnarlingtons in my life (Trayce), Saturday, 26 February 2011 23:50 (fifteen years ago)

i understand 4chan as an immature, anything-goes type of place and its appeal to anonymous internet fuckwads, but reddit is ugly and boring

― a nan, a bal, an anal ― (abanana), Saturday, 26 February 2011 23:52 (fifteen years ago)

I find places like reddit confusing! Its like this nested layer of link-referencing, turtles all the way down.

― gnarly gnarlingtons in my life (Trayce), Saturday, 26 February 2011 23:56 (fifteen years ago)

I noticed another frame irregularity just now (right after the moving head bit), but no dvr on this tv so I can't go back and check it out. Sure it will be online somewhere in 3...2...

― Johnny Fever, Tuesday, 1 March 2011 04:43 (fifteen years ago)

Boy, last night's episode really stoked the fires of this debate. He addresses it without actually answering any questions, then they transform him via floating head into the ANONYMOUS symbol.

― Telephoneface (Adam Bruneau), Tuesday, 1 March 2011 16:29 (fifteen years ago)

they have a symbol? what is it, just that 4chan clover-thing?

― kelpolaris, Tuesday, 1 March 2011 17:41 (fifteen years ago)

http://commonsenseherald.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/02/wpid-anon-logo-2011-02-16-15-27.jpg

― Johnny Fever, Tuesday, 1 March 2011 17:43 (fifteen years ago)

replace suit with hoodie, add strap-on

― kelpolaris, Tuesday, 1 March 2011 17:44 (fifteen years ago)

one month passes...

http://i.imgur.com/itmIs.jpg

― 1-800-ALL-YOU-CAN-EAT-SPAGHETTI (del griffith), Friday, 8 April 2011 15:25 (fifteen years ago)

That was the funniest bit I've seen on his show in years, probably ever. I was fucking dying.

― Funky Mustard (People It's Bad) (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Friday, 8 April 2011 16:16 (fifteen years ago)

what bit is that? even the picture is hilarious

― they call him (remy bean), Friday, 8 April 2011 16:26 (fifteen years ago)

Trying to drink tea w a stiff upper lip.

― Telephoneface (Adam Bruneau), Friday, 8 April 2011 16:31 (fifteen years ago)

vickers is an amazing straight man in these

― ban drake (the rapper) (max), Friday, 8 April 2011 17:05 (fifteen years ago)

i mean colbert is really funny but vickers is just perfect

― ban drake (the rapper) (max), Friday, 8 April 2011 17:05 (fifteen years ago)

vickers was very patient.

funniest thing in the last week - T-Paw rapping with the kidz.

and the one line about the fake engagement ring.

― koogs, Friday, 8 April 2011 17:29 (fifteen years ago)

one month passes...

I caught the rerun about a week ago where he went to D.C. to register his PAC, ending with him grabbing dollar bills from the crowd and yelling "God bless Citizens United!"

― the gay bloggers are onto the faggot tweets (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 7 June 2011 14:52 (fourteen years ago)

Herzog interview is awesome -- his shtick outshines Colbert's by like 100x. Colbert is just totally stumped.

― s.clover, Tuesday, 7 June 2011 17:11 (fourteen years ago)

was that last night?

― the gay bloggers are onto the faggot tweets (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 7 June 2011 17:13 (fourteen years ago)

two weeks pass...

man this whole colbert / black belles / jack white thing is fucking AWFUL

it was kind of funny til he actually performed, shit

― Z S, Friday, 24 June 2011 03:55 (fourteen years ago)

and it takes up so much of the show! and its been going on all week!

― Mordy, Friday, 24 June 2011 03:59 (fourteen years ago)

Black Belles suck, right? Or is it just this song?

― Alpaca Lips (Johnny Fever), Friday, 24 June 2011 04:01 (fourteen years ago)

That was the kind of performance that makes me certain that all of their music must completely suck. If they're capable of plating that as a backing track, there's no hope. Also the drummer rushed during her fills pretty badly, but was the least of their problems!

― Z S, Friday, 24 June 2011 04:34 (fourteen years ago)

ILM should have some kind of rolling 'what bullshit is Jack White up to now' thread

― alan all destroyer (some dude), Friday, 24 June 2011 18:59 (fourteen years ago)

whatever bullshit it is, it seems to be conducted primarily indoors

― j., Friday, 24 June 2011 20:15 (fourteen years ago)

Jack is a freak

― already president FYI (Dr Morbius), Friday, 24 June 2011 20:18 (fourteen years ago)

Jack's an odd guy, I expect him to muddle through a seemingly endless parade of side-projects/one-offs/collabs for the next 10 years or so, at which point Meg will probably feel the pull of a large reunion paycheck.

― winoa ryder sexes creatures of the night (Shakey Mo Collier), Friday, 24 June 2011 20:27 (fourteen years ago)

Yeah the song was bad but isn't that the joke? Though bad song on purpose + tri-colored vinyl makes it confusing I guess. I thought the whole thing was entertaining.

― Wacky Way Lounge (Evan), Friday, 24 June 2011 21:18 (fourteen years ago)

I guess on the band's part, they weren't kidding, just Colbert and his lyrics.

― Wacky Way Lounge (Evan), Friday, 24 June 2011 21:19 (fourteen years ago)

well yeah, of course colbert wasn't trying to deliver the pazz and jop best single or anything. although his singing voice is kind of singularly grating. but the band was so awful and unimaginative, sort of like a 11th grade band practicing on autopilot, i can't imagine how in the world they would even score a bar gig

― Z S, Friday, 24 June 2011 21:33 (fourteen years ago)

anyway, i don't know why i'm being so critical, sorry to harsh the mellow! it was just...by far the worst thing colbert has ever been involved with

― Z S, Friday, 24 June 2011 21:34 (fourteen years ago)

four months pass...

Woah was that quantum levitation device real?

― Emperor Cos Dashit (Adam Bruneau), Thursday, 10 November 2011 17:30 (fourteen years ago)

looked like a standard maglev thing to me, metal plate on the bottom of the tub...

this, though, was a bit o_O

http://gizmodo.com/5850643/what-the-hell-magnets-why-are-you-so-amazing

― koogs, Thursday, 10 November 2011 18:25 (fourteen years ago)

one month passes...

Big ol' NYT Magazine piece.

― Ned Raggett, Thursday, 5 January 2012 17:27 (fourteen years ago)

yeah i found that p moving, he is so great

― quick brown fox triangle (schlump), Thursday, 5 January 2012 18:16 (fourteen years ago)

Also, it indirectly led me to these clips:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fUOBvS2XjWk

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lR5wvSTKe5g

― Ned Raggett, Thursday, 5 January 2012 20:52 (fourteen years ago)

Strangers with Candy is solid gold

― The Silent Extreme (Shakey Mo Collier), Thursday, 5 January 2012 20:53 (fourteen years ago)

otm

― congratulations (n/a), Thursday, 5 January 2012 20:53 (fourteen years ago)

I love the flat description of his character on Wikipedia:

Charles "Chuck" Noblet (Stephen Colbert) – Chuck is the school's history teacher and sponsor of the school newspaper, The Donkey Trouser. He and his wife Claire have a son, Seamus. He is in a secret homosexual relationship with Geoffrey Jellineck.

― Ned Raggett, Thursday, 5 January 2012 20:56 (fourteen years ago)

that NYT piece is pretty incredible, esp. since it made me remember how awesome that coorespondant's dinner thing was

― frogbs, Thursday, 5 January 2012 21:19 (fourteen years ago)

i don't know how to embed this, but this is painful to watch. check the video at the bottom.

― your pain is probably equal (Z S), Sunday, 8 January 2012 03:40 (fourteen years ago)

He was so amazing in Strangers With Candy, I always felt like TDS was a downgrade after that.

― Nicole, Sunday, 8 January 2012 05:12 (fourteen years ago)

all of this super pac stuff is p great, i think; not so much funny but way closer to educational or important than they've been with anything else

― quick brown fox triangle (schlump), Wednesday, 18 January 2012 15:30 (fourteen years ago)

otm

― jon /via/ chi 2.0, Wednesday, 18 January 2012 15:30 (fourteen years ago)

might vote for him if Roseanne's not gonna run

― Dr Morbois de Bologne (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 18 January 2012 15:32 (fourteen years ago)

Yes. His show and TDS were great in their discussion of the super pac, but I had to turn his show off when he went to his interview with Jennifer Granholm (the Drake of politics). xp

― Seriously, who votes for Drake? (Nicole), Wednesday, 18 January 2012 15:32 (fourteen years ago)

the thing from last night's daily show where he never stops grinning was giving me flashbacks to the last scene of twin peaks

― JoeStork, Thursday, 19 January 2012 08:30 (fourteen years ago)

I really loved his interviews with Maurice Sendak. Sendak is exactly my perfect & favorite type of cranky old man/artist. I would watch a whole show of just Sendak criticizing everything and everyone.

― no more mr. nice girls (Abbbottt), Sunday, 29 January 2012 16:57 (fourteen years ago)

"Fuck them! I hate those ebooks! They cannot be the future. They may well –– I WILL BE DEAD. I wont give a shit.” *spittle*

<3 <3 <3

― no more mr. nice girls (Abbbottt), Sunday, 29 January 2012 16:59 (fourteen years ago)

It was also very fun getting to see Sendak draw!

― no more mr. nice girls (Abbbottt), Sunday, 29 January 2012 17:01 (fourteen years ago)

yesss, & inhale his sharpie
they were v lovely segments. i have this open in another tab to listen to soon, i needed more sendak.

― quick brown fox triangle (schlump), Sunday, 29 January 2012 17:33 (fourteen years ago)

That NYT article is pretty interesting. I don't watch Colbert consistently, so I was only vaguely aware of the Super PAC stuff.

― Nhex, Sunday, 29 January 2012 18:31 (fourteen years ago)

two weeks pass...

All sorts of rumors about this week for whatever reason.

― Ned Raggett, Thursday, 16 February 2012 16:21 (fourteen years ago)

(was there a show last night, the 15th? it's not on the website...)

― koogs, Thursday, 16 February 2012 16:42 (fourteen years ago)

what rumors?

― Literal Facepalms (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 16 February 2012 16:43 (fourteen years ago)

http://artsbeat.blogs.nytimes.com/2012/02/16/colbert-report-suspended-without-explanation/

― all things must pass (shaane), Thursday, 16 February 2012 16:53 (fourteen years ago)

Only for a day though.

― all things must pass (shaane), Thursday, 16 February 2012 16:53 (fourteen years ago)

Steve Albani, a spokesman for Comedy Central, said in an e-mail: “Due to unforeseen circumstances, the show will air repeat episodes on Wednesday, February 15 and Thursday, February 16.” Customarily “The Colbert Report” does not tape new episodes on Fridays.

yes I did a double-take there

― (thinks and smiles) (DJP), Thursday, 16 February 2012 16:54 (fourteen years ago)

They get three or four days off and they generate basically free publicity all over the net?! Awesome

― le ralliement du doute et de l'erreur (Michael White), Thursday, 16 February 2012 16:55 (fourteen years ago)

Has there been rumors about a health scare somewhere? Comments on that article, and in a few other places, seem to hint at the health of Colbert and/or his family.

― Gonjasufjanstephen O'Malley (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Thursday, 16 February 2012 19:58 (fourteen years ago)

three months pass...

I missed this til Greenwald linked to it:

http://www.motherjones.com/mojo/2012/03/colbert-targeted-killing-due-process-just-means-theres-process-you-do

― World Congress of Itch (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 30 May 2012 16:51 (thirteen years ago)

two months pass...

I'm digging this new show Stephen Colbert has!

Last night he was being given a tour of the USS Intrepid and was shown a model of it made out of Legos. I LOL'd when he asked how many Lego's it took to build the real thing.

― Emperor Cos Dashit (Adam Bruneau), Thursday, 16 August 2012 14:51 (thirteen years ago)

LOL @ that veteran. "The Japanese weren't in Lebanon, they were home making toys."

― Emperor Cos Dashit (Adam Bruneau), Thursday, 16 August 2012 15:01 (thirteen years ago)

five months pass...

Clinton inaugural-Sharon Stone gag last night was 5-star.

― saltwater incursion (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 22 January 2013 23:17 (thirteen years ago)

three weeks pass...

His discussion w Garry Wills last night was pretty awesome. I'd like to sit and listen to him actually talk about his Catholic faith. He seems to really be well-read.

― Emperor Cos Dashit (Adam Bruneau), Tuesday, 12 February 2013 17:18 (thirteen years ago)

Who, Wills or Colbert?

― Evan, Wednesday, 13 February 2013 00:23 (thirteen years ago)

two weeks pass...

some quality Bible rewriting last night

― Pope Rusty I (Dr Morbius), Saturday, 2 March 2013 01:08 (thirteen years ago)

two months pass...

Every time he eats on his show, it's hilarious. No matter what he eats. Hilarious every time. Guy's a hilarious eater.

― del griffith, Friday, 10 May 2013 01:48 (thirteen years ago)

one month passes...

Quite something.

http://gawker.com/watch-stephen-colberts-heartwarming-tearful-tribute-t-514533962

― Ned Raggett, Thursday, 20 June 2013 05:00 (twelve years ago)

Choked me up when I was watching it.

― Ⓓⓡ. (Johnny Fever), Thursday, 20 June 2013 05:30 (twelve years ago)

Yeah, I definitely had my moments.

― Ned Raggett, Thursday, 20 June 2013 15:34 (twelve years ago)

(amazing how stephen looks like stephen in that (40+ year old) photo)

― koogs, Thursday, 20 June 2013 15:52 (twelve years ago)

one month passes...

daft punk episode was awesome

― no one should be offended by the lyrics in this song (stevie), Wednesday, 14 August 2013 12:43 (twelve years ago)

the music video could have lasted the entire episode afaiac

― arby's, Wednesday, 14 August 2013 12:56 (twelve years ago)

one month passes...

http://i41.tinypic.com/1z5n70l.jpg

― del griffith, Sunday, 15 September 2013 00:19 (twelve years ago)

six months pass...

Sigh

http://twitchy.com/2014/03/27/racist-joke-has-people-calling-for-comedy-central-to-cancelcolbert/#.UzVQTheaSVE.twitter

― What is wrong with songs? Absolutely nothing. Songs are great. (DL), Friday, 28 March 2014 10:54 (twelve years ago)

twitchy.com Founder: Michelle Malkin

― conrad, Friday, 28 March 2014 11:05 (twelve years ago)

forget Lenny Bruce and All in the Family, I guess Blazing Saddles wouldn't make it today either

― images of war violence and historical smoking (Dr Morbius), Friday, 28 March 2014 11:12 (twelve years ago)

The worst of everyone on Twitter -- which is to say the worst of everyone in the world -- are going nuts on both sides of that #cancelcolbert hashtag. It was not, as Malkin I suspect well knows, a @StephenAtHome tweet, but a Comedy Central tweet taken from a bit. It was dumb to take that bit out of context and tweet it, but that was CC's stupidity. For greater stupidity, read any 10 tweets under the hashtag in question.

― Three Word Username, Friday, 28 March 2014 11:34 (twelve years ago)

yeah the disheartening thing is that this all started a few years ago when Colbert parodied something actually offensive that Limbaugh did, but then Colbert kinda turned it into a running gag that got less funny and less defensible every time he trotted it out:
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/01/21/colbert-rush-limbaugh_n_812317.html

― some dude, Friday, 28 March 2014 11:46 (twelve years ago)

I think the "not defensible" thing is genuinely debatable, but having read the parade of white boy "bitches can't take a joke" Family Guy fans doing most of the defense of Colbert on Twitter makes me despair for the possibility of that debate happening in any constructive way in 2014 Internet.

― Three Word Username, Friday, 28 March 2014 11:59 (twelve years ago)

it's not possible to defend the joke in good faith, but you're free to argue otherwise. go right ahead.

― patron sailor, Friday, 28 March 2014 12:37 (twelve years ago)

"let's make fun of racism by pretending to be racist and telling actual not-funny racist jokes" doesnt really count as 'satire', sorry.

― patron sailor, Friday, 28 March 2014 12:41 (twelve years ago)

...as I said, the Internet in 2014.

― Three Word Username, Friday, 28 March 2014 12:43 (twelve years ago)

if you're going to make the case for why this is acceptable, go ahead and make it. using hand-wavy phrases like "the internet in 2014" just reads like you don't have the courage to back up your misplaced conviction, tbh

― patron sailor, Friday, 28 March 2014 13:03 (twelve years ago)

If you are telling me in advance that a good-faith defense is impossible, you are not someone I want to have any kind of debate with.

― Three Word Username, Friday, 28 March 2014 13:05 (twelve years ago)

you were on that funny ukraine thread

― conrad, Friday, 28 March 2014 13:09 (twelve years ago)

Looking at that Bizarro World twitchy site, I can only guess what gags, bits or jokes (delivered by liberals) wouldn't piss them off. But in their defense, their headlines are hilarious. "Donald Trump connects autism and vaccines - update!" "Rachel Ray supports Obamacare, sours fans!" That's some funny stuff.

I'm surprised they're stopping at "cancel Colbert" and not just going for "cancel everything."

― Josh in Chicago, Friday, 28 March 2014 13:10 (twelve years ago)

can you at least give me a short list of circumstances where's it's a-ok for white ppl to make "ching chong asian ppl" joeks

― patron sailor, Friday, 28 March 2014 13:14 (twelve years ago)

only if the joke is funny and this joke wasn't--can't think of a single circumstance where it would be though

― waterbabies (waterface), Friday, 28 March 2014 13:15 (twelve years ago)

Wasn't the joke* supposed to make fun of the Washington http://images.chron.com/blogs/askacat/hatcat.JPG's mascot and their "Original Americans" foundation? Where is the Twitter outrage for THAT?

* I don't think the joke was funny either.

― DDD, Friday, 28 March 2014 13:17 (twelve years ago)

Washington Catskins

― DDD, Friday, 28 March 2014 13:18 (twelve years ago)

Also, "outrage over", not "for". Sorry.

― DDD, Friday, 28 March 2014 13:24 (twelve years ago)

This is the bit: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pm-HwTHvp9Q

― Three Word Username, Friday, 28 March 2014 13:27 (twelve years ago)

"let's make fun of racism by pretending to be racist and telling actual not-funny racist jokes" doesnt really count as 'satire', sorry.

― patron sailor, Friday, March 28, 2014 7:41 AM (36 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

actually I'm pretty sure it does count as 'satire' regardless of whether or not you found it funny

― frogbs, Friday, 28 March 2014 13:28 (twelve years ago)

frogbs, noted satirist, disagrees. very well!

― patron sailor, Friday, 28 March 2014 13:33 (twelve years ago)

Are YOU a noted satirist as well?

― DDD, Friday, 28 March 2014 13:41 (twelve years ago)

i didn't decide what the definition of satire was

― frogbs, Friday, 28 March 2014 13:42 (twelve years ago)

While it's safe to say the joke was in poor taste and maybe a writer should be fired (if it wasn't improve), does anyone actually believe Colbert is a racist? I think an apology would be good enough. The show doesn't need to be cancelled.

― DavidLeeRoth, Friday, 28 March 2014 13:44 (twelve years ago)

PANAMA!!!!!

― waterbabies (waterface), Friday, 28 March 2014 13:46 (twelve years ago)

PANAMA!!!!!

― waterbabies (waterface), Friday, 28 March 2014 13:46 (twelve years ago)

STEPHEN CORBERT MIGHT AS WELL "JUMP" OUT OF HIS SHOW

― waterbabies (waterface), Friday, 28 March 2014 13:47 (twelve years ago)

WOAH WOAH WOAH
STEPHEN'S CRYIN'

― waterbabies (waterface), Friday, 28 March 2014 13:47 (twelve years ago)

what's the definition of satire, tho? if your "satirical" performance of racism is wholly indistinguishable from the racism it's allegedly targeting, i don't know how you can justify it as satire without relying on ~intention~ which imho is a worthless defense

― patron sailor, Friday, 28 March 2014 13:47 (twelve years ago)

Uhm... I wouldn't call the difference between "Original Americans" and "Ching-Chong Ding-Dong Foundation for Sensitivity to Orientals or Whatever" really indistinguishable.

― DDD, Friday, 28 March 2014 13:49 (twelve years ago)

The joke's gist doesn't seem too far from stuff he/the Onion/whomever has done before, but it does seem tonally off. It's too overtly "racist" to work as a satire of the blithely racist stuff one encounters all the time. That said, this is being blown out of proportion, largely by a wing notorious for blowing things out of proportion.

― Josh in Chicago, Friday, 28 March 2014 13:51 (twelve years ago)

Ching Chong Ding Dong is always racist tho

― waterbabies (waterface), Friday, 28 March 2014 13:53 (twelve years ago)

And if you think the difference is indistinguishable then it reveals more about the target (and also a bit about you) than the comedian playing an over-the-top character.

― DDD, Friday, 28 March 2014 13:53 (twelve years ago)

so being super overtly but ironically funny racist is an acceptable way to satirize casual racism? that's... hm

― patron sailor, Friday, 28 March 2014 13:54 (twelve years ago)

Noone finds it funny tho

― sonic thedgehod (albvivertine), Friday, 28 March 2014 13:57 (twelve years ago)

i mean that's like making fun of someone for farting by pointing at them and shitting your own pants xp

― patron sailor, Friday, 28 March 2014 13:57 (twelve years ago)

but that would be funnier

― patron sailor, Friday, 28 March 2014 13:59 (twelve years ago)

To sum up:

Dan Snyder owns NFL team with racist name, refuses to change name under a growing amount of pressure, throws native peoples a bone by creating a charitable org that is branded with the racist name.

Colbert revives old bit, originally created to mock Rush Limbaugh, and misfires.

Comedy Central, the network, and not The Colbert Report, the show, or Stephen Colbert, the person, takes one line from the bit and posts it on twitter devoid of all context. Oof!

Michelle Malkin's army of idiots seize the opportunity to go wild with the #CancelColbert hashtag, knowing probably less about the sequence of events than I've just listed here.

― Johnny Fever, Friday, 28 March 2014 14:00 (twelve years ago)

You can def see why Twitter's feeling the need to dumb itself down a little

― sonic thedgehod (albvivertine), Friday, 28 March 2014 14:03 (twelve years ago)

Thank you patron sailor

The original tweet is indefensible

You can't downplay the tweet by pointing to the reactions, they're separate phenomena

And that's all I have to say about this

― 龜, Friday, 28 March 2014 14:05 (twelve years ago)

Taking that line out of context and tweeting it into the wild was definitely a dumb mistake that fuels the fire of slacktivists. Dan Synder is probably laughing up his sleeve right now.

― DDD, Friday, 28 March 2014 14:08 (twelve years ago)

"fueled", not "fuels", sigh...

― DDD, Friday, 28 March 2014 14:09 (twelve years ago)

what's the definition of satire, tho? if your "satirical" performance of racism is wholly indistinguishable from the racism it's allegedly targeting, i don't know how you can justify it as satire without relying on ~intention~ which imho is a worthless defense

I mean, you can look up the definition:

the use of humor, irony, exaggeration, or ridicule to expose and criticize people's stupidity or vices, particularly in the context of contemporary politics and other topical issues.

This joke certainly qualifies. It gets defended the same way a lot of dumb Family Guy shit does - "it's satire, you don't get it, it's making fun of racists". I think something can be satirical and racially insensitive. CC was definitely wrong to tweet that out of context (or at all, really)

― frogbs, Friday, 28 March 2014 14:11 (twelve years ago)

I do think the tweet is indefensible, but would not say the same of the joke or the bit (although I think the bit fails, not least because of the racist buttheads in the audience laughing at the "funny Chinaman" without a hint of self-awareness). And that's on CC.

― Three Word Username, Friday, 28 March 2014 14:17 (twelve years ago)

frogbs otm--there's a bunch of stuff that Limbaugh says that is unfunny and racist but technically qualifies as satire

― I got the glares, the mutterings, the snarls (President Keyes), Friday, 28 March 2014 14:18 (twelve years ago)

actually I'm pretty sure it does count as 'satire' regardless of whether or not you found it funny

Yes. Call it bad satire, clumsy satire, offensive satire if you like but it's obvious what it's trying to say re: the Washington http://images.chron.com/blogs/askacat/hatcat.JPG. One satire strategy has always been to exaggerate to the point of absurdity the thing you want to attack. The obvious problem here is that the tweet removed the context.

― What is wrong with songs? Absolutely nothing. Songs are great. (DL), Friday, 28 March 2014 14:25 (twelve years ago)

Ha, I didn't realise that's what happened to that word here. I just thought people liked posting pictures of that cat.

― What is wrong with songs? Absolutely nothing. Songs are great. (DL), Friday, 28 March 2014 14:25 (twelve years ago)

so the sickness is here, too

― Insane Prince of False Binaries (Gukbe), Friday, 28 March 2014 14:27 (twelve years ago)

Actually calling for the show's cancellation, however, is so absurd that it might be beyond satire.

― What is wrong with songs? Absolutely nothing. Songs are great. (DL), Friday, 28 March 2014 14:28 (twelve years ago)

Joyce Carol Oates OTM

Joyce Carol Oates ‏@JoyceCarolOates 1h

#CancelColbert seems extreme. Maybe #ChastiseColbertForRecklesslyTweetingOutOfContext?

― What is wrong with songs? Absolutely nothing. Songs are great. (DL), Friday, 28 March 2014 14:30 (twelve years ago)

it's not "exaggerated to the point of absurdity" when "ching chong asian people" jokes are still common coin among "non-ironic" racists

― patron sailor, Friday, 28 March 2014 14:32 (twelve years ago)

colbert knows how to do absurdist satire, but this is not it

― patron sailor, Friday, 28 March 2014 14:33 (twelve years ago)

So if it's not satire, even of the misfiring variety, by your definition then what is it? A straight-up racist joke by Colbert the racist?

― What is wrong with songs? Absolutely nothing. Songs are great. (DL), Friday, 28 March 2014 14:37 (twelve years ago)

I think it's pretty obvious at this point that many people who are not actively racist can say hurtful racist things, I mean I don't imagine anyone Asian watching that show in a bar for example wouldn't feel a tiny bit of seething fury, even an ironic joke ends up delivering the same sense of being singled out callously as a fun y prop for a punch line.

― christmas candy bar (al leong), Friday, 28 March 2014 14:42 (twelve years ago)

I said "bar" bc I think yknow watching something in public in partic in the presence of a joke like that makes one feel more singled out

― christmas candy bar (al leong), Friday, 28 March 2014 14:43 (twelve years ago)

It ws tweeted tho

― sonic thedgehod (albvivertine), Friday, 28 March 2014 14:45 (twelve years ago)

it's a dumb bad racist joke that should be apologized for and should be occasion for introspection for those involved in its creation & delivery

i mean i'm not interested in branding ppl as IRREDEEMABLE RACISTS or whatever but when your joke ends up wildly offending people other than yr intended target maybe you should, you know, step back for a sec and reassess your approach

― patron sailor, Friday, 28 March 2014 14:45 (twelve years ago)

i agree that the joke was a misfire but i have sympathy because the name of Snyder's foundation is so mind-blowing i don't blame them for failing to come up with something better.

― Insane Prince of False Binaries (Gukbe), Friday, 28 March 2014 14:45 (twelve years ago)

Oh well never mind. I misunderstood. Not enough sleep.

― christmas candy bar (al leong), Friday, 28 March 2014 14:46 (twelve years ago)

al leong otm; at this point Asian Americans are sort of tired that they're the racial group in America that it's okay to make 'satirical' jokes about when you want to make a point about race relations in America. Even if you think the twitter reaction is over-the-top (which I agree some of the tweets are), I still support the general sentiment that if you want to make smart satire about race relations in America in 2014, 'ironically' repeating tired slurs against Asian Americans is not the way to do it. You don't have to think that Colbert is a racist (watch the Jay Smooth video on the difference on being 'racist' and making a 'racist' statement!) to think that Colbert erred in not thinking through this skit further.

― 龜, Friday, 28 March 2014 14:48 (twelve years ago)

Similar to when Patton Oswalt's tweets last year, main lesson is that any single tweet lands outside the context of a running joke, a response to a news story, etc.

― That's So (Eazy), Friday, 28 March 2014 14:49 (twelve years ago)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b0Ti-gkJiXc

― 龜, Friday, 28 March 2014 14:50 (twelve years ago)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b0Ti-gkJiXc

― 龜, Friday, 28 March 2014 14:50 (twelve years ago)

at this point Asian Americans are sort of tired that they're the racial group in America that it's okay to make 'satirical' jokes about when you want to make a point about race relations in America.

If I were Asian perhaps I would feel differently, but I don't get this at all. I encounter plenty of OTT jokes re: Jews, African-Americans, Latinos or other prominent minorities enlisted to make a point about race relations in America. For example:

http://www.theonion.com/articles/http://images.chron.com/blogs/askacat/hatcat.JPG-kike-owner-refuses-to-change-teams-offens,34292/?ref=auto

Is this different?

― Josh in Chicago, Friday, 28 March 2014 14:59 (twelve years ago)

Where the fuck did that cat come from?

― Josh in Chicago, Friday, 28 March 2014 14:59 (twelve years ago)

Why is "kike" not cat-censored?

― DDD, Friday, 28 March 2014 15:00 (twelve years ago)

http://www.theonion.com/articles/r*dskins-kike-owner-refuses-to-change-teams-offens,34292/?ref=auto

― Josh in Chicago, Friday, 28 March 2014 15:00 (twelve years ago)

Aha, figured it out. Racism solved!

― Josh in Chicago, Friday, 28 March 2014 15:00 (twelve years ago)

I dunno JiC, I can't speak for you! But as an Asian American, I def feel that skit/quote was crossing the line

― 龜, Friday, 28 March 2014 15:01 (twelve years ago)

Obv. it's a matter of perspective/opinion whether either is at all funny, but both the Colbert joke and the aforementioned Onion joke seem to be about going fully into racist territory to make a statement about racism. I don't think either joke is terribly funny but I'm also not sure either is supposed to be "ha ha" funny.

― Josh in Chicago, Friday, 28 March 2014 15:03 (twelve years ago)

this is ridculous. it's not the best joke since the name of the foundation synder set up isn't the insulting one, so there isn't a lot of parity. but it's still satire, and malkin exhibits the kind of whiny thin skinned PCness she constantly claims liberals suffer from.

― akm, Friday, 28 March 2014 15:04 (twelve years ago)

Pretending that Malkin is the only one making an issue of this is missing the point tbh

― 龜, Friday, 28 March 2014 15:07 (twelve years ago)

malkin is obviously seizing a convenient opportunity to take shots at a political adversary, but i wouldn't characterize her (or anyone's) reaction as "whiny thin-skinned PCness"

― surfbort memes get played out, totally (k3vin k.), Friday, 28 March 2014 15:08 (twelve years ago)

step back for a sec and reassess your approach

For sure, but then why run with #CancelColbert? It sums up what I think can go wrong with hashtag activism. This sets up a binary - "It's no big deal, quit whining" vs "Indefensible racist joke meriting cancellation of the whole show" - to deliberately exclude the third option: "This was satire which misfired badly out of context and should even be reconsidered in context." Nothing can mess with the binary, which by its nature generates more heat than light. It's a performance.

I used to laugh at Christian conservatives who wanted to ban eg The Life of Brian. I don't see a huge difference here.

― What is wrong with songs? Absolutely nothing. Songs are great. (DL), Friday, 28 March 2014 15:12 (twelve years ago)

Distinguishing betweeen "what people say" and "what they are" seems a false dilemma (it was in the embedded youtube, maybe it was ironic). You say what you say because you are what you are, more or less?

I don't think it should be controversial to suggest that people are racist - even when it's on an unconscious level. Even "good guys" like Stephen Colbert grew up in racist societies, and unless you're superman I think it'd be difficult to rid yourself of all the values of your culture you grew up on. But I guess maybe in USA it's very controversial to say something like, yes I am probably racist even though I rationally believe in racial equality etc.

― niels, Friday, 28 March 2014 15:13 (twelve years ago)

Well, that's on you xp

― 龜, Friday, 28 March 2014 15:14 (twelve years ago)

Pretending that Malkin is the only one making an issue of this is missing the point tbh

otm. i only learned of this from several asian ppl i follow on twitter who were upset about the joke AND the presumably white liberal Colbert fans who we're defending it. i was mostly unaware of conservative punditry's interest in the matter tbh but no surprise, they will seize any opportunity to scream about "liberal hypocrisy"

― patron sailor, Friday, 28 March 2014 15:15 (twelve years ago)

If you want to make this wholely about the reaction to the tweet and you want to dismiss that, okay, that's what you want to do. I can't help that.

― 龜, Friday, 28 March 2014 15:16 (twelve years ago)

wint ‏@dril 3m
#CancelColbert gangstalking me, collecting my piss, laughing it up with his fucked up buddies when I ask where my piss went, carrying on,

― bi-polar uncle (its OK-he's dead) (Phil D.), Friday, 28 March 2014 15:17 (twelve years ago)

It'd be cool if it ws abt the actual tweet

― sonic thedgehod (albvivertine), Friday, 28 March 2014 15:17 (twelve years ago)

Oh good, wint

― sonic thedgehod (albvivertine), Friday, 28 March 2014 15:18 (twelve years ago)

Xpost hehe, yeah can see how it can make me come off as a bad person.

On the other hand it can make it easier to criticize racism because it avoids the approach where a "good guy" like Colbert couldn't do a racist joke even though it was obv racist.

― niels, Friday, 28 March 2014 15:18 (twelve years ago)

i mean i'm not interested in branding ppl as IRREDEEMABLE RACISTS or whatever but when your joke ends up wildly offending people other than yr intended target maybe you should, you know, step back for a sec and reassess your approach

agreed with this. it's tricky terrain, though. i mean, even in that jay smooth video above (which is great), he - while impersonating an offended politician - makes reference to "watermelons, tap dancing, and going back to africa" at 2:08 in. and that doesn't immediately jump out as offensive to me, because i'm watching it in the context of the rest of his message, and i can see why he said it. but i could imagine others being offended by that because they're sick of these racist old tropes being trotted out time and time again, even if it's to make a positive point.

― I don't care if you're Black Sabbath, James White, or Deep Purple (Karl Malone), Friday, 28 March 2014 15:20 (twelve years ago)

xp Are you addressing me 龜? Because I agree with everything you said in your longer tweet upthread. Just because I'm talking about the hashtag campaign doesn't mean I think the joke worked or didn't cause offence.

― What is wrong with songs? Absolutely nothing. Songs are great. (DL), Friday, 28 March 2014 15:23 (twelve years ago)

Yeah, DL, I am talking about you. If you think the bigger deal in this situation is the reaction against the tweet rather than the tweet itself, I can't really help that. I think you're a smart guy from having read your posts on this board, I think you're better than this.

― 龜, Friday, 28 March 2014 15:25 (twelve years ago)

Was it maybe intended to cause offense?

― sonic thedgehod (albvivertine), Friday, 28 March 2014 15:25 (twelve years ago)

(Answer no, but it'd explain a lot)

― sonic thedgehod (albvivertine), Friday, 28 March 2014 15:26 (twelve years ago)

xp Having just complained about false binaries, I'm not going to get into which is the bigger deal. Both the tweet and the reaction are up for discussion. I'm critical of both fwiw.

― What is wrong with songs? Absolutely nothing. Songs are great. (DL), Friday, 28 March 2014 15:33 (twelve years ago)

Im not gonna worry too much about what Michelle Malkin the internment apologist has to say about anything

― panettone for the painfully alone (mayor jingleberries), Friday, 28 March 2014 15:34 (twelve years ago)

Alright dude, then why don't you put up? I've only seen you talk out one side of your neck. xp

― 龜, Friday, 28 March 2014 15:37 (twelve years ago)

I don't do performances. If someone else says something I agree with what's the point in rephrasing it? Go back and read your earlier post. I agree with it.

― What is wrong with songs? Absolutely nothing. Songs are great. (DL), Friday, 28 March 2014 15:43 (twelve years ago)

I always thought this gag was in poor taste. It's kind of stunning that he keeps bringing it back. I think Colbert is a genuis in pretty much every way but this, and if it gets him fired then he shouldn't have acted like an asshole.

― ▴▲ ▴TH3CR()$BY$H()W▴▲ ▴ (Adam Bruneau), Friday, 28 March 2014 15:55 (twelve years ago)

That's a good point. In the last nine years, he's probably done this one 4 or 5 times (maybe more I haven't seen). Why was this week the tipping point?

― Johnny Fever, Friday, 28 March 2014 15:57 (twelve years ago)

there's no way he gets cancelled cuz of this

― How dare you tarnish the reputation of Turturro's yodel (Shakey Mo Collier), Friday, 28 March 2014 15:57 (twelve years ago)

lol yeah i don't think anyone's worried about that

― surfbort memes get played out, totally (k3vin k.), Friday, 28 March 2014 16:06 (twelve years ago)

It would be cool if he stopped doing it!

― ▴▲ ▴TH3CR()$BY$H()W▴▲ ▴ (Adam Bruneau), Friday, 28 March 2014 16:19 (twelve years ago)

#CancelColbert

― lag∞n, Friday, 28 March 2014 16:28 (twelve years ago)

Pretty sure he's not doing that riff ever again

― What is wrong with songs? Absolutely nothing. Songs are great. (DL), Friday, 28 March 2014 16:29 (twelve years ago)

the whole thing is pretty fd up no one really comes out of it looking good... except #me

― lag∞n, Friday, 28 March 2014 16:31 (twelve years ago)

Where the fuck did that cat come from?

― Josh in Chicago, Friday, March 28, 2014 10:59 AM (1 hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

lol

― lag∞n, Friday, 28 March 2014 16:36 (twelve years ago)

http://images.chron.com/blogs/askacat/hatcat.JPG

― markers, Friday, 28 March 2014 16:37 (twelve years ago)

fwiw theres a native guy i follow on twitter and his tribe is getting money from dan snyder and he is very much in favor of the initiative

― lag∞n, Friday, 28 March 2014 16:39 (twelve years ago)

kinda interesting in the context of racism theory where we all know the rules and how to judge

― lag∞n, Friday, 28 March 2014 16:42 (twelve years ago)

i mean obvs the corrupting influence of money and whatever but still

― lag∞n, Friday, 28 March 2014 16:42 (twelve years ago)

http://i.imgur.com/upKwKOm.png

― lag∞n, Friday, 28 March 2014 16:45 (twelve years ago)

showed him, damn

― surfbort memes get played out, totally (k3vin k.), Friday, 28 March 2014 16:49 (twelve years ago)

that's one pen, i want to see the _other_ pens cause i think this guy is talking shit

― a nation filled with lead (Hunt3r), Friday, 28 March 2014 16:51 (twelve years ago)

i will say the most entertaining thing about this so far has been all the ppl in this thread not knowing about the Washington hatcats

― frogbs, Friday, 28 March 2014 16:51 (twelve years ago)

Oh, Starburns.

― Johnny Fever, Friday, 28 March 2014 16:55 (twelve years ago)

http://www.hatcats.com/

― Josh in Chicago, Friday, 28 March 2014 17:13 (twelve years ago)

Stephen Colbert vs. the Hashtag Activists

― Van Horn Street, Friday, 28 March 2014 17:30 (twelve years ago)

i don't know how you can justify it as satire without relying on ~intention~ which imho is a worthless defense

― patron sailor, Friday, March 28, 2014 9:47 AM (3 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

it's a dumb bad racist joke that should be apologized for and should be occasion for introspection for those involved in its creation & delivery

― patron sailor, Friday, March 28, 2014 10:45 AM (2 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

im gonna try to make a sort of broad big point here so apologies in advance for the generalizing and nothing personal elmo u know i luv u boo, plz dont read if u h8 me lol j/k

the calls for introspection here are maybe at odds with the claims that intention dont matter, generally i feel like one of the things that makes social justice internet culture such an object of eye rolling is the denial of peoples internal lives, everything exists in the external world and in the rules of society which is imo kind of an unbalanced approach, but is by no means uncommon in modern life, in the particular case of intent i have to straight up disagree, imo intent always matters and in fact one of the key ways humans navigate the world, were always asking ourselves what someone meant be something, the denial of this basic human way of seeing the world just comes off as disconnected to me

intent is however not the only thing that matters, display matters too, obvs weve all had innumerable experiences where something we did didnt come off how we interned, tho i suspect the real thing people are fighting against via employing the intent doesnt matter meme is the idea that we are all have complete and honest knowledge of our intent which of course we do not, we are all often deluded and ignorant and dishonest with ourselves and others, so i think whats maybe being said here is that people can see an intent in stephen colbert that he cant see in himself, which is reasonable and normal imo

theres a general tendency in the culture i think to take academic ideas and hone them into a weapons (which tbf is prob how many of them were intended in the first place) via turning them into hard rules of discourse, like intentions dont matter, or a personal fav racism means prejudice + power ergo poc cant be racist etc lol, these tendencies i dont feel are too productive, like i agree w that formula for how racism actually functions in the world but its not true that thats the popular definition of the word, like are you in anyway advancing social justice by #actually-ing them re word definitions, i doubt it, imo just go w ‘white supremacy’ if you want to get the point across

but its not just an argument abt expediency, i do think that aligning oneself w this sort of rigid framework is just not the best way to be, its not being the change you want to see by being all ‘you dont get to…’, tho obvs obvs x1m peoples frustrations at a culture that views them as less worthy are totally justified and understandable and worthy of all we can muster as far as sympathy and empathy and solidarity

but idk twitter makes everyone seem totally insane lol

as for the colbert joke seems like maybe he took a lil too much pleasure in it and obvs the tweet was bad and wrong

― lag∞n, Friday, 28 March 2014 17:33 (twelve years ago)

Never mind the whole debate of political correctness, is it now possible for one public person to a write/publish a mistake? Colbert has a pretty good track record of saying smart things, understands comedy more than the average citizen, but when his network (not even himself) publish one bad tweet, suddenly they have the responsibility to cancel the show.

― Van Horn Street, Friday, 28 March 2014 17:41 (twelve years ago)

also #hashtags are bad dont use them

― lag∞n, Friday, 28 March 2014 17:44 (twelve years ago)

I have learned two things from this: that both hatcats and hashtag activists are real things.

― Josh in Chicago, Friday, 28 March 2014 17:47 (twelve years ago)

Never mind the whole debate of political correctness, is it now possible for one public person to a write/publish a mistake

Racist jokes aren't really a mistake in the way you're using that word

― waterbabies (waterface), Friday, 28 March 2014 17:47 (twelve years ago)

If we got anything out of this, it's that we now know that Patton Oswalt doesn't know how websites with different writers work, in addition to the myriad other things he doesn't understand.

― Herbie Handcock (Murgatroid), Friday, 28 March 2014 17:55 (twelve years ago)

The intent here was to mock Snyder, that's very clear. The mistake would be pushing the parody a little too far. That doesn't make it a racist joke, just an ill conceived joke about racism. Colbert and his team write thousands of jokes per year, a slip of this kind was bound to happen.

― Van Horn Street, Friday, 28 March 2014 18:00 (twelve years ago)

point well taken, and i would agree with the general point you make -- intention is not meaningless.

but i guess to put a finer point on it -- one doesn't need to intend harm to cause it, and one can't excuse the consequences of words or actions just because they didn't play out as you foresaw.

obviously intention is one of many thing to consider in such a case as this, but while intention can be considered explanatory its rarely exculpatory imho

― patron sailor, Friday, 28 March 2014 18:04 (twelve years ago)

yeah agree hi5

― lag∞n, Friday, 28 March 2014 18:06 (twelve years ago)

The problem I'm seeing is that, in a rush to fight back against idiots like Malkin who are exploiting the issue for personal gain, the overall negative experience it has caused Asians is getting overlooked.

There are liberal friends of mine, who would normally fall over themselves salivating to sandbag a conservative for something like this (often without due process) that are now talking about folks being "too sensitive". But it is possible to say - "yes, the Tweet was taken out of context - regardless, the tweet itself was in bad taste and offensive", and also acknowledge that the tweet wasn't made by Colbert or members of his show. I still think he should come forward and apologize anyway, since the comment was made using his brand; and I do echo the sentiments of others upthread in that I was taken aback when I saw the segment last night. I know what he was satirizing, but seeing that clip from 2004 was still a little disconcerting, especially hearing the audience howling at it.

Just wish the "stop being so sensitive" trope would be retired in 2014 - cos half the time, the people who dispense it are pretty thin-skinned themselves.

― Neanderthal, Friday, 28 March 2014 18:06 (twelve years ago)

I agree with that, patron sailor, which is why I think he should apologize. He is responsible for putting that out there. However, I don't believe it's difficult to forgive this slip.

― Van Horn Street, Friday, 28 March 2014 18:07 (twelve years ago)

i wld def prefer to live in a world where dudes werent jumping up yelling ITS SATIRE DONT U GET IT

― lag∞n, Friday, 28 March 2014 18:08 (twelve years ago)

the dumbest folks always think they're the smartest guys in the room. half the people on my social media feed falling over themselves to say "omg it's satire!" actually think that a light bulb is going off in their reader's heads the moment they read that 'mind blowing' fact.

The sketch would have worked far better if they didn't replay that clip from 2005 and just ended it after the naming of the foundation. Brevity is the soul of wit, no 'crazy Chinaman' impression, etc.

― Neanderthal, Friday, 28 March 2014 18:15 (twelve years ago)

the dumbest folks always think they're the smartest guys in the room.

they tend to be very loud too.

― Van Horn Street, Friday, 28 March 2014 18:18 (twelve years ago)

The clip, the way it went on too long, and the overly enthusiastic audience response to it, is to me the ugliest part of this whole thing and what turned a weak bit into a badly failed bit. I think the actual offensive joke in a tighter, less ambiguous context, could have worked -- but reshowing that clip at length was bad comedy and questionable ethics.

― Three Word Username, Friday, 28 March 2014 18:22 (twelve years ago)

ugh, this from a friend on FB:

"The thing is, this isn't a case of Asian people being reduced to the lowest common denominator. To me, it's clearly satire. It's Colbert doing what Colbert does. Colbert, the character, is totally ignorant. He's using this example to mock the blatant ignorance of some people."

This was a guy who only read the tweet, and did not see the episode. This is a guy who is a bit of a theatre snob and prides himself on putting on highbrow productions (and when he lived in town, put on some very high quality shows that were thought provoking).

Yet, this is what he considers the essence of Colbert? I'm baffled as to how one could miss Colbert's obvious appeal - simply put, he works the Jon Stewart angle backwards. He isn't merely portraying an "ignoramus"; he is lampooning conservative America by playing a slightly caricaturized version of one of those folks, and uses that persona to point out their absurdities and contradictions.

I wonder how many people really do find appeal in Colbert because "he's hilarious because he acts like he's stupid, man, and most Americans are stupid. Wow, that's clever!".

― Neanderthal, Friday, 28 March 2014 18:33 (twelve years ago)

great post lag∞n (xps)

― Simon H., Friday, 28 March 2014 18:35 (twelve years ago)

hey remember that one woman on the plane?

― goole, Friday, 28 March 2014 18:40 (twelve years ago)

I saw the episode, and the minute that crap started, it undercut pretty much any criticism that preceded it. It was lazy writing and they should fire whoever wrote it. They could have actually included thoughtful satire, and addressed the very real concerns they brought up, rather than make light of those concerns with a strawman.

― ▴▲ ▴TH3CR()$BY$H()W▴▲ ▴ (Adam Bruneau), Friday, 28 March 2014 18:42 (twelve years ago)

it seems to me like there's a self-critical aspect of satire missing in a lot of this discussion. and that has something to do with the complexity of the audience, its composition.

if satire has a moral intention—which i think it can have even to the extent of forgoing comic results sometimes—then it doesn't just have to be directed at the targets like snyder, but also at the audience.

a lot of colbert's audience probably imagines themselves as completely on the other side from his targets. or beyond that, as more morally sound than colbert and his audience themselves—maybe that describes the kind of tweeters i've read who make it sound like they think the entire enterprise is obviously bad.

but if colbert's audience is on the other side than someone like snyder, shouldn't they find references to the http://images.chron.com/blogs/askacat/hatcat.JPG just as offensive and patently ridiculous as 'ching chong ding dong'? but my guess is they don't. i grew up in a -very- white area with not very many overt performances of racism, so even though i know and feel why the latter is ugly and racist, it borders on sounding like 'guinea' or 'mick' to me, like a distant example of racism from another time that i've heard about second-hand. i suppose at the same time it pretty directly invokes slurs like 'chink' and 'gook' which do feel sharply hurtful to my ears, on a par with 'nigger'. and those too i rarely heard growing up, mostly offhandedly by older people who had, say, fought in korea or vietnam. (i heard someone much closer to me say 'chink' offhandedly, make a joke about eating dogs, etc., just a couple years ago, and through i was a little unnerved about his character, mostly i just wondered, where did that even come from?? out here, in the middle of nowhere whitesville?)

at the same time, while i understand the reasons and (in an intellectual way) the perspective from which 'http://images.chron.com/blogs/askacat/hatcat.JPG' and all mascot-related appropriations are offensive—i just don't feel it. i don't think i have any stake in keeping it going, but just hearing the word floating around out there does nothing for me—it's wholly naturalized as part of the system of sports and its symbols. (a while back i read a music critic who said that almost immediately 'perfect pussy' had lost any of its edge for him as a name and just was one band name among others, because of its function as a band name.)

since the joke-tweet especially was pretty much an exact translation of snyder's foundation name over into another register from which it was supposed to be patently ridiculous, i wonder if the intent is not so much, or not just, to ridicule snyder or fans of 'sports traditions' as to put a segment of colbert's audience more in the perspective of people for whom 'http://images.chron.com/blogs/askacat/hatcat.JPG' -is- viscerally offensive, in such a way that they recognize their moral self-evaluations are not as well-aligned as they may have thought. i didn't see the bit—i've probably seen colbert drag out this particular thing in the past though. when i read the tweet what made me laugh was the end—'or Whatever' incorporated into the name of colbert's proposed foundation. and i think that it was a good signal of the thing being targeted—utter indifference to the concerns of others expressed in the very same breath, the very same phrase, as you purport to be taking their concerns seriously, to the point of institutionalizing your concern, when you are really just doubling down on an institutionalized (thus the capital letters) indifference, or outright hostility.

i think a lot of the points about colbert getting laughs at the expense of marginalized groups, exploiting/continuing to contribute to their oppression, could be re-made in these terms. effectively, with a certain morally-tinged aim in mind, colbert tried to leverage one form of discomfort he could anticipate a sizeable part of his audience to have, in order to generate another form of discomfort he could anticipate that they by and large did not have. but in doing so he had to, say, use asians as means to his ends in a way he could have expected (probably did expect) would in no way receive their endorsement (like 'oh ok as long as you're calling on ugly abuse and stereotypes to get your audience members to take native american complaints seriously, that's cool, no harm'). but i think that means that the object of critique should more be the show's tendency to play to, or even concern itself with the moral judgments/failures of judgment of, its majority audience, than like its insensitive way of getting cheap laughs or whatever.

― j., Friday, 28 March 2014 19:03 (twelve years ago)

sweet, i got cats

― j., Friday, 28 March 2014 19:03 (twelve years ago)

I say intent is important but what you do w intent is more important. Whenever you hear a racist or sexist thing from the Right, they often say that their intent was noble, and that they just had trouble communicating. And yet we are expected to give Colbert a pass.

― ▴▲ ▴TH3CR()$BY$H()W▴▲ ▴ (Adam Bruneau), Friday, 28 March 2014 19:14 (twelve years ago)

that's a pretty ridiculous false equivalence

― surfbort memes get played out, totally (k3vin k.), Friday, 28 March 2014 20:09 (twelve years ago)

https://twitter.com/Deadspin/status/449645375423774723

*logs off for the day*

― Herbie Handcock (Murgatroid), Friday, 28 March 2014 20:42 (twelve years ago)

lol 4:30 friday everyone get drunk youve earned

― lag∞n, Friday, 28 March 2014 20:45 (twelve years ago)

it

― lag∞n, Friday, 28 March 2014 20:45 (twelve years ago)

everyone is so mad at suey park

― patron sailor, Friday, 28 March 2014 21:03 (twelve years ago)

suey "i ruined twitter for an entire day" park

― lag∞n, Friday, 28 March 2014 21:06 (twelve years ago)

how dare she frankly

― lag∞n, Friday, 28 March 2014 21:06 (twelve years ago)

Suey Park is, for lack of a better term, a Twitter activist. So it matters, to whatever extent things like this matter, when she starts a hashtag.

audible sighing emanating from this blog post

― lag∞n, Friday, 28 March 2014 21:08 (twelve years ago)

really fun how "you just don't GET SATIRE" sort of implies that appreciating ironic racism is prerequisite for being a cool educated liberal

― patron sailor, Friday, 28 March 2014 21:15 (twelve years ago)

the defense is that the Deadspin authors are Korean-Americans, so it's ok for them to say the g-word. *facepalm*

― Neanderthal, Friday, 28 March 2014 21:19 (twelve years ago)

very edgy, i now understand things better because of edginess

― lag∞n, Friday, 28 March 2014 21:28 (twelve years ago)

This Colbert snafu reminds me a bit of the brouhaha surrounding that Sarah Silverman OTT jury duty/Asian slur joke a few years back.

I dunno. I went to a lecture a few weeks back re: offensive comedy, and there were any number of comedians and jokes that earned ire from the (generally older) audience, depending on their age/generation/disposition. Sarah Silverman and Sacha Baron Cohen were prime subjects. One person, after seeing the "Running of the Jews" Borat gag, expressed concern that the clip could be taken seriously by real anti Semites. Same with his "Throw the Jew Down the Well" bit, though in the latter case one woman who was upset saved most of her vitriol for the entire genre of country music (which is the only thing that offended me).

It's really a thin line, because once you deem a joke that is clearly a joke - told by a comedian on a comedy program in service of getting laughs, whether you think it is funny or not - offensive, then where does that lead you? A one-way ticket to That's Not Funnyville, that's where.

― Josh in Chicago, Friday, 28 March 2014 21:42 (twelve years ago)

one woman who was upset saved most of her vitriol for the entire genre of country music

lol

― lag∞n, Friday, 28 March 2014 21:43 (twelve years ago)

You should have heard her go off!

― Josh in Chicago, Friday, 28 March 2014 21:45 (twelve years ago)

She stopped short of spitting on the floor after she said "country music."

― Josh in Chicago, Friday, 28 March 2014 21:45 (twelve years ago)

It's important to keep in mind people laughing at this on-show have been trained to laugh and have big flashing signs that say "Applause" whenever a joke ends.

― ▴▲ ▴TH3CR()$BY$H()W▴▲ ▴ (Adam Bruneau), Friday, 28 March 2014 21:46 (twelve years ago)

also they dose them with sodium pentathol

― invent viral babe (Noodle Vague), Friday, 28 March 2014 21:47 (twelve years ago)

and fart jokes, three hours of classic puerile fart jokes

― j., Friday, 28 March 2014 21:49 (twelve years ago)

they're so ready to laugh

― j., Friday, 28 March 2014 21:49 (twelve years ago)

literally strapped into tickling machines having the hilarity milked out of them like cattle

― invent viral babe (Noodle Vague), Friday, 28 March 2014 21:51 (twelve years ago)

eyes flickering in panic, pleading for their tormentors to stop

― invent viral babe (Noodle Vague), Friday, 28 March 2014 21:52 (twelve years ago)

http://ktismatics.files.wordpress.com/2008/02/suicide.png

― Neanderthal, Friday, 28 March 2014 21:54 (twelve years ago)

http://www.theonion.com/articles/http://images.chron.com/blogs/askacat/hatcat.JPG-kike-owner-refuses-to-change-teams-offens,34292/

― Mordy , Friday, 28 March 2014 21:57 (twelve years ago)

I find that cat in a hat highly offensive.

― Josh in Chicago, Friday, 28 March 2014 22:00 (twelve years ago)

Pretty sure that Onion piece has been linked and/or referred to at least twelve times already in this thread.

― Herbie Handcock (Murgatroid), Friday, 28 March 2014 22:01 (twelve years ago)

http://time.com/42174/we-want-to-cancelcolbert/

suey park elaborates

― j., Friday, 28 March 2014 23:30 (twelve years ago)

I do agree that cancelling Colbert's show is probably a few steps too far, but then again, Suey and her allies are getting much worse, online threat-wise.

― Herbie Handcock (Murgatroid), Friday, 28 March 2014 23:40 (twelve years ago)

probably

― Mordy , Friday, 28 March 2014 23:50 (twelve years ago)

not that she doesn't have valid points but has she at least acknowledged that it wasn't Colbert that wrote the tweet? I'm all for accountability and yes, he's the face of the show, but CC needs to step up and own this fast.

― Neanderthal, Friday, 28 March 2014 23:56 (twelve years ago)

But if the joke isn’t actually racist, then why have so many racist slurs been hurled at those of us promoting #CancelColbert?

this is somewhat odd reasoning

― (The Other) J.D. (J.D.), Friday, 28 March 2014 23:58 (twelve years ago)

What is Suey Park doing w those kids in her Twitter header? Teaching them how to start a hashtag campaign?

― sonic thedgehod (albvivertine), Saturday, 29 March 2014 00:03 (twelve years ago)

But if the joke isn’t actually racist, then why have so many racist slurs been hurled at those of us promoting #CancelColbert?

this is somewhat odd reasoning

― (The Other) J.D. (J.D.), Friday, March 28, 2014 7:58 PM (5 minutes ago)

she's 23

― surfbort memes get played out, totally (k3vin k.), Saturday, 29 March 2014 00:05 (twelve years ago)

Oh yeah, all even only fairly young ppl're stupid

― sonic thedgehod (albvivertine), Saturday, 29 March 2014 00:07 (twelve years ago)

q: if this joke isnt racist then why are other things racist
a: 23

― lag∞n, Saturday, 29 March 2014 00:08 (twelve years ago)

i don't think it's meant to be sound reasoning, it's meant to be an effective insinuation

― j., Saturday, 29 March 2014 00:09 (twelve years ago)

fnord

― how's life, Saturday, 29 March 2014 00:10 (twelve years ago)

Satire Lesson 1: If you need to explain whatever it is that you were trying to do, it’s not working. Your audience is telling you that it’s broken, it’s old. It needs to be reworked.

ageism here

― I got the glares, the mutterings, the snarls (President Keyes), Saturday, 29 March 2014 00:11 (twelve years ago)

she and like everyone else in the world were quite clear that they did in fact get the joke

― lag∞n, Saturday, 29 March 2014 00:39 (twelve years ago)

they just didtn like it

― lag∞n, Saturday, 29 March 2014 00:39 (twelve years ago)

Suey Park ‏@suey_park 4m
Y'all make me so glad I have a pseudonym. And yes I chose that name to be subversive. I enjoy seeing reactions to my name.

― lag∞n, Saturday, 29 March 2014 00:44 (twelve years ago)

If a white dude was doing what Suey is doing, it would not be discredited as "hashtag activism".

― Herbie Handcock (Murgatroid), Saturday, 29 March 2014 00:44 (twelve years ago)

so much edginess today not sure if i can handle it all might have to get a backpack or even a rolling suitcase to contain all this edginess

― lag∞n, Saturday, 29 March 2014 00:45 (twelve years ago)

wouldnt the world be a better place if everyone white black brown or purple was shamed for using hashtags

― lag∞n, Saturday, 29 March 2014 00:46 (twelve years ago)

If it's not calling her a hashtag activist, it's waving away criticism with "but it's satire!". Ugh, white people.

― Herbie Handcock (Murgatroid), Saturday, 29 March 2014 00:49 (twelve years ago)

h8 wites

― lag∞n, Saturday, 29 March 2014 00:58 (twelve years ago)

comedy fans on twitter rmde

― patron sailor, Saturday, 29 March 2014 01:04 (twelve years ago)

If a white dude was doing what Suey is doing, it would not be discredited as "hashtag activism".

― Herbie Handcock (Murgatroid), Friday, March 28, 2014 8:44 PM (20 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

eh i don't buy this. a lot of the same criticisms were used against OWS activists, most of whom were white

― surfbort memes get played out, totally (k3vin k.), Saturday, 29 March 2014 01:28 (twelve years ago)

It was lazy writing and they should fire whoever wrote it.

Really Adam? You want someone to lose their job for one joke that didn't work? Can't stand this off-with-their-heads approach. Expect them to have a serious post mortem, learn some lessons, make sure that the whole writing teams thinks very hard about how they parody racism in future but don't rub your hands at the thought of ruining someone's livelihood.

― What is wrong with songs? Absolutely nothing. Songs are great. (DL), Saturday, 29 March 2014 15:23 (twelve years ago)

" But if the joke isn’t actually racist, then why have so many racist slurs been hurled at those of us promoting #CancelColbert?"

the argument is between those who oppose the joke, and the joke writers, not the joke defenders, IMO. Now if CC or Colbert had come back with a load of racist slurs toward those promoting #CancelColbert that would be one thing.

― akm, Saturday, 29 March 2014 16:22 (twelve years ago)

An interesting point of comparison is the National Congress of American Indians poster (discussed here http://www.slate.com/blogs/browbeat/2013/10/10/new_york_jews_san_francisco_chinamen_cleveland_indians_ncai_poster_is_old.html) which used a similar satirical exaggeration to attack the Washington R*******. It was designed in 2001 but only went viral last October, and polarised responses. The NCAI said it wouldn't use that poster now because those stereotypes, even in a satirical context, are no longer acceptable. Their intent would be the same as it was in 2001 but the culture has changed.

The Colbert joke was a callback to a routine he first did in 2004 and clearly he and his team haven't been alert to how certain language and imagery, regardless of intent, has become more contentious. Calling this out is important and valid because that's often the only way people reconsider their assumptions and how the culture becomes more progressive. The only thing I object to - and I think the main reason why this got so nasty so fast - is the heads-must-roll extremity of the #CancelColbert gambit. This isn't like Paula Deen being racist in a way that would have been unacceptable 30 years ago. This is the kind of fuck up that happens again and again as society moves forward. From a UK perspective, I'm interested to see when "retarded" and "spastic" become unacceptable in the US. I'm sure they'll be seen as ableist slurs in the future but they're often not used with that intent now.

― What is wrong with songs? Absolutely nothing. Songs are great. (DL), Saturday, 29 March 2014 16:39 (twelve years ago)

Sometimes it gets under my skin when I hear haole jokes (I live in Hawaii) but I don't get butthurt about it enough to start a big whinge-fest on Twitter. But that mild kind of racism does make it feel like I will probably never really belong in Hawaii, which is my only home... I have a sympathy for why Colbert's joke hurt some people's feelings. Still, it helps if you can not be too thin-skinned, whatever your skin color is and whoever is, uh, making light of it.

― davey, Saturday, 29 March 2014 16:59 (twelve years ago)

THe NCAI poster is way more on point, joke-wise.

― akm, Saturday, 29 March 2014 17:06 (twelve years ago)

I dunno, I think they made it too good. Like these mascots work better graphically than the actual team logos.

― Philip Nunez, Saturday, 29 March 2014 17:16 (twelve years ago)

too much love in those designs imo v sus

― lag∞n, Saturday, 29 March 2014 17:45 (twelve years ago)

DL really standing up for hack comedy writers.

― ▴▲ ▴TH3CR()$BY$H()W▴▲ ▴ (Adam Bruneau), Saturday, 29 March 2014 17:56 (twelve years ago)

great contribution to the dialogue there, i can feel the progress

― balls, Saturday, 29 March 2014 17:58 (twelve years ago)

balls really standing up for dialogue there

― j., Saturday, 29 March 2014 17:59 (twelve years ago)

if you were really for dialogue you would found a new hashtag and implore people to trend it

― j., Saturday, 29 March 2014 18:00 (twelve years ago)

You guys need to chill with this "off-with-their-heads" approach to post criticism.

― ▴▲ ▴TH3CR()$BY$H()W▴▲ ▴ (Adam Bruneau), Saturday, 29 March 2014 18:01 (twelve years ago)

just doing my part to move us forward as a people, keep a steady stream of ideas flowing (i mean only in one direction obviously, let's not get carried away), maybe promote the brand a little

― balls, Saturday, 29 March 2014 18:03 (twelve years ago)

we need to chill-off-their-heads imo

― lag∞n, Saturday, 29 March 2014 18:14 (twelve years ago)

Have we forgotten how to chill? As a culture?

― très hip (Treeship), Saturday, 29 March 2014 18:38 (twelve years ago)

i know one person who i think still contributes to that twitter. There are many comedy writers with access to it. Colbert is definitely letting this particular writer, whoever it is, hell because he is a tough boss apparently. But he doesn't really control the day to day of the twitter account at all, from what i know, if this matters.

― très hip (Treeship), Saturday, 29 March 2014 18:43 (twelve years ago)

*giving the writer hell. Not letting

― très hip (Treeship), Saturday, 29 March 2014 18:44 (twelve years ago)

oh look, treeship is another racism apologist. #cancelcolbert, #burntwitter, #destroyhumanity.

― Mordy , Saturday, 29 March 2014 18:46 (twelve years ago)

The internet ruins everything and probably always will.

― President Frankenstein (kingfish), Saturday, 29 March 2014 19:03 (twelve years ago)

Not the entire Internet though, just a vocal minority (looking at you, micro-blogging site that starts with T)

― DDD, Saturday, 29 March 2014 19:06 (twelve years ago)

Speaking of T, Suey Park claims it has all been a social experiment https://twitter.com/suey_park/status/449949287741280256

― DDD, Saturday, 29 March 2014 19:08 (twelve years ago)

pisses me off that people can't tell the difference between ironic racism and irony/satire about racism, terminology-wise.

the former is 'haha jokes bruv' stuff that vice, etc. made a stock in trade. the latter, even when it misfires, is something entirely different.

also if someone says some 'ching chong' shit around me i don't feel like threatened or oppressed by it fwiw, i look at them like they're a total fucking moron. there are troublesome racist tropes about asians and stereotype and whatever but that shit is 1920s charlie chan racism.

there are places in the world where anti-chinese racism is a virulant cultural force just about as deadly as anti-semitism. what they think of chinese people there has nothing to do with chopsticks and rice paddy hats and funny accents.

― eric banana (s.clover), Saturday, 29 March 2014 19:10 (twelve years ago)

DDD
Posted: March 29, 2014 at 7:08:21 PM
Speaking of T, Suey Park claims it has all been a social experiment https://twitter.com/suey_park/status/449949287741280256

lol next level, tweets 4 life

― lag∞n, Saturday, 29 March 2014 19:13 (twelve years ago)

was the social experiment to demonstrate asian privilege in america by testing if an ironic anti-asian racist joke on a basic cable show's twitter account could generate more outrage and buzz than a billion dollar business profiting from bigoted merchandise or slave states reinstituting laws designed to prevent blacks from voting? cool methodology if so.

― balls, Saturday, 29 March 2014 19:17 (twelve years ago)

asian privilege? holy shit

― eric banana (s.clover), Saturday, 29 March 2014 19:39 (twelve years ago)

#cancelballs

― Mordy , Saturday, 29 March 2014 19:41 (twelve years ago)

Giving Adam Bruneau the benefit of the doubt and assuming he's conducting a special social experiment of his own.

― What is wrong with songs? Absolutely nothing. Songs are great. (DL), Saturday, 29 March 2014 20:32 (twelve years ago)

Suuuuuuuuure it was a social experiment. Demanding a programme be cancelled over one dubious tweet or skit rather than, perhaps, demanding an apology and assurances that the offender will use more learned judgement in the future strikes me as the worst kind of reactionary middle-class entitlement. Plus, anyone who allies with Michelle Malkin to hogpile on the rabbit while conflating fans of a comic with that comic might need a bit of calling-out themselves.

xp hello DL, agreeing with you here.

― baked beings on toast (suzy), Saturday, 29 March 2014 20:44 (twelve years ago)

DL is correct, I'm trying to see if the CC people in charge of employment are seriously taking my message board comments into consideration when doing their job.

― ▴▲ ▴TH3CR()$BY$H()W▴▲ ▴ (Adam Bruneau), Saturday, 29 March 2014 21:08 (twelve years ago)

Curious how it would have been received if it were framed:

"It's ridiculous what they're doing, it's as if someone said, say: 'I am willing to show #Asian community I care by introducing the Ching-Chong Ding-Dong Foundation for Sensitivity to Orientals or Whatever.' It's disgusting"

― Evan, Saturday, 29 March 2014 22:05 (twelve years ago)

Sometimes it gets under my skin when I hear haole jokes (I live in Hawaii) but I don't get butthurt about it enough to start a big whinge-fest on Twitter. But that mild kind of racism does make it feel like I will probably never really belong in Hawaii, which is my only home.

When will white people ever get a break in Hawaii, feel u dude

― bi-polar uncle (its OK-he's dead) (Phil D.), Saturday, 29 March 2014 22:45 (twelve years ago)

curious how it would have been received if it were framed without a racial slur

― brimstead, Saturday, 29 March 2014 22:53 (twelve years ago)

"Let's try to find a way in which it isn't perceived as racist!"

― brimstead, Saturday, 29 March 2014 22:56 (twelve years ago)

frame a slur, hang it on the wall, art

― lag∞n, Saturday, 29 March 2014 23:02 (twelve years ago)

Glad to see balls is getting his talking points straight from Gavin Mcinnes

― 龜, Saturday, 29 March 2014 23:08 (twelve years ago)

http://blogs.wsj.com/speakeasy/2014/03/29/stephen-colbert-racism-and-the-weaponized-hashtag/?mod=WSJBlog&utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter

^^ actual analysis

― j., Saturday, 29 March 2014 23:18 (twelve years ago)

http://askakorean.blogspot.hk/2014/03/against-hashtag-warriors.html

― 龜, Saturday, 29 March 2014 23:28 (twelve years ago)

we're getting this scandal cycle to the "callout culture & why is it so bad and hated" stage, right on schedule, keep up the good work everybody

― patron sailor, Sunday, 30 March 2014 01:47 (twelve years ago)

"Let's try to find a way in which it isn't perceived as racist!"

― brimstead, Saturday, March 29, 2014 6:56 PM (2 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

#socialexperiment

― Evan, Sunday, 30 March 2014 01:49 (twelve years ago)

Time is a flat circle they say

― President Frankenstein (kingfish), Sunday, 30 March 2014 01:53 (twelve years ago)

callout culture & why callout practitioners hate being called out

― Mordy , Sunday, 30 March 2014 01:59 (twelve years ago)

i support callouts and callingout callouters and so forth all of it, i think society wld be cooler if we cld just be all "yo thats bullshit" a lil easier and it wasnt such a big deal but i understand thats kinda against human nature and if u call me out i will kill u

― lag∞n, Sunday, 30 March 2014 02:03 (twelve years ago)

warriors, come out to plaaaaaaaaaay

― I got the glares, the mutterings, the snarls (President Keyes), Sunday, 30 March 2014 02:14 (twelve years ago)

i support callouts and callingout callouters and so forth all of it, i think society wld be cooler if we cld just be all "yo thats bullshit" a lil easier and it wasnt such a big deal but i understand thats kinda against human nature and if u call me out i will kill u

― lag∞n, Saturday, March 29, 2014 10:03 PM Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Kurupt's lyrics getting a bit lazy in 2014

― Neanderthal, Sunday, 30 March 2014 02:15 (twelve years ago)

thank you for yr honest feedback u fuck

― lag∞n, Sunday, 30 March 2014 02:17 (twelve years ago)

yo

― Neanderthal, Sunday, 30 March 2014 02:20 (twelve years ago)

hm yes practitioners of the arts of calling out, a very time honored tradition as i understand

― patron sailor, Sunday, 30 March 2014 02:55 (twelve years ago)

i learned to call out from my maternal grand-aunt, it's arcane knowledge passed down through the female line you see

― patron sailor, Sunday, 30 March 2014 02:58 (twelve years ago)

probably repeating shit that's already been said but i'm guessing no one would care about this if it weren't for the cancelcolbert thing? like maybe if the thought of canceling everyone's precious little ball of satire perfection came up sooner then the people complaining about his brownface gag + constant anti-trans jokes/slurs could've been heard at some point. he does a lot of shitty things, like most comedians. and like most comedians from his generation i never get the sense that he's thinking "satire!" rather than just doing the same things every other halfway-'edgy' comedian was still doing in the late 80s/early 90s. these gags are still like 90% of tracey ullman's career. and i question the "satire!" defense when colbert's show is aimed at/watched by people who agree with the politics and are just looking for laffs. did anyone think that tweet was gonna like have a positive effect on anything other than making some bros laugh

colbert is sort of in that same place where south park has always been with a lotta bros my age where the politics and the methods are seen as canon, objectively proper (lest you want to appear RONG and CENSORMONGERY and A PRUDE), unquestionable. and it's good for that to be questioned!

had no idea it was a malkin thing tho, that makes things more interesting (to say the least)

― linda cardellini (zachlyon), Sunday, 30 March 2014 02:59 (twelve years ago)

feel like colberts politics are way better than south parks fwiw

― lag∞n, Sunday, 30 March 2014 03:08 (twelve years ago)

they aren't really similar shows when it comes to this stuff but they both have the same layer of protection

a lot of political comedy has it i guess but those are the two highest profiles i can think of. even more than the daily show.

― linda cardellini (zachlyon), Sunday, 30 March 2014 03:13 (twelve years ago)

south park's politics are often irony free - part of what stopped me watching for years is how Parker/Stone spent ep after ep trying to grind their libertarian axes using the most ridiculous strawmen and it blunted the humor severely. SP was always best when the kids were just doing random shit and learned some stupid generic 'lesson' at the end.

― Neanderthal, Sunday, 30 March 2014 03:15 (twelve years ago)

xpost

― Neanderthal, Sunday, 30 March 2014 03:15 (twelve years ago)

fwiw they've dialed back on the pointless "libertarian" contrarian schtick in the last couple of seasons. they got really bad with that for a while.

― Simon H., Sunday, 30 March 2014 03:39 (twelve years ago)

yeah I've seen most of the recent seasons' episodes, now the issue is within the last season, they've just gotten stale :/. the Zimmermann episode was next level horrible.

― Neanderthal, Sunday, 30 March 2014 04:22 (twelve years ago)

I actually liked the Zimmerman one!

We're getting off topic, though. Back to everyone being horrible.

― Simon H., Sunday, 30 March 2014 04:27 (twelve years ago)

I wouldn't like it cancelled, I just think the show is better than that, and that they could have left out that material and easily done 5 or 6 killer one-liners in its place.

― ▴▲ ▴TH3CR()$BY$H()W▴▲ ▴ (Adam Bruneau), Sunday, 30 March 2014 05:46 (twelve years ago)

The whole setup, with the stuff about the foundation (which apparently has way more controversy than Colbert is reporting), was clever satire. The ending was more or less stooping to the worst Family Guy level possible.

― ▴▲ ▴TH3CR()$BY$H()W▴▲ ▴ (Adam Bruneau), Sunday, 30 March 2014 05:49 (twelve years ago)

Colbert's whole career is about allowing people to think that smug superiority to the ridiculousness of our political culture is a meaningful substitute for real critique or better yet engagement. I feel like banaka saying this but his fish in a barrel form of satire functions as a soporific. If we get the joke we're above the fray, and somehow not implicated in our society's dysfunction. That's why he's so beloved.

― très hip (Treeship), Sunday, 30 March 2014 05:51 (twelve years ago)

South Park works the same way except for idiots.

― très hip (Treeship), Sunday, 30 March 2014 05:52 (twelve years ago)

I can see your point. The big rally they did was basically about nothing, wasn't it?

― ▴▲ ▴TH3CR()$BY$H()W▴▲ ▴ (Adam Bruneau), Sunday, 30 March 2014 05:55 (twelve years ago)

I mean, that plus this are both for charity, which is pretty cool

― ▴▲ ▴TH3CR()$BY$H()W▴▲ ▴ (Adam Bruneau), Sunday, 30 March 2014 05:57 (twelve years ago)

probably repeating shit that's already been said but i'm guessing no one would care about this if it weren't for the cancelcolbert thing? like maybe if the thought of canceling everyone's precious little ball of satire perfection came up sooner then the people complaining about his brownface gag + constant anti-trans jokes/slurs could've been heard at some point.

^^This (to say nothing of him laffing it up with that fucking war criminal Kissinger, which barely elicited a raised eyebrow).

― Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Sunday, 30 March 2014 06:06 (twelve years ago)

went to that rally and enjoyed my time there

xpost

― Insane Prince of False Binaries (Gukbe), Sunday, 30 March 2014 06:07 (twelve years ago)

won't defend Colbert in particular but would argue satire is most vital/necessary insofar as it provides avenue of escape from injunctions to "engagement" or "real critique"--in that it offers a way of observing distinct/autonomous from those activities. at the same time, of course, it's open to politically based or "engaged" forms of critique. but this is as it should be. satire runs risk of disengagement but engagement runs plenty of risks of its own.

― ryan, Sunday, 30 March 2014 06:13 (twelve years ago)

http://www.salon.com/2014/03/29/colbert_gate_and_our_failed_pseudo_democracy/

― Mordy , Sunday, 30 March 2014 06:16 (twelve years ago)

The fact that this is the fifth piece Salon has run about #CancelColbert kind of proves his point about misplaced energy.

― What is wrong with songs? Absolutely nothing. Songs are great. (DL), Sunday, 30 March 2014 11:03 (twelve years ago)

colbert is funny its good tv idk, i mean i dont often watch watch but when i do im def always impressed and laff, the rally was v dumb and a def low point for those dudes but w/e its a good show, its fine to critique it and get deep but that can also very easily get into point missing territory

― lag∞n, Sunday, 30 March 2014 12:56 (twelve years ago)

is satire doing them job? blog post at 10

― lag∞n, Sunday, 30 March 2014 12:57 (twelve years ago)

I generally like Colbert but the Kissinger stuff is the fucking worst / the only outright indefensible thing he does imo

― Simon H., Sunday, 30 March 2014 12:57 (twelve years ago)

btw i feel like enough isnt being made abt suey parks most recent professed motivation for the #hashtag because no one can quite believe this is really happening

― lag∞n, Sunday, 30 March 2014 12:58 (twelve years ago)

the rally was somewhat like this in the sense that it started off lampooning glenn beck and then just went overboard and stopped being funny

― some dude, Sunday, 30 March 2014 13:02 (twelve years ago)

kinda feel part of this is that colbert and to some extent stewart are recently ascendant to the pantheon of liberal white comedy bro heroes, right up there now with carlin hicks and louis ck, here let me screencap this joke and post it as an image macro to reddit, upvote plz

― patron sailor, Sunday, 30 March 2014 13:11 (twelve years ago)

guys who really tell it how it is cut through all the bs out there

― lag∞n, Sunday, 30 March 2014 13:19 (twelve years ago)

Can't find what Parks' latest motivation is :(

― sonic thedgehod (albvivertine), Sunday, 30 March 2014 13:20 (twelve years ago)

Stewy Park ‏@suey_park Mar 28
In case people think I'm actually too stupid to employ or understand satire as a writer. Thanks for playing, everyone.

Stewy Park ‏@suey_park Mar 28
Satire: When you trend #CancelColbert as an extreme demand to point to the inability of white liberals to understand and absolve racism. 2/2

Stewy Park ‏@suey_park Mar 28
Satire: humor, irony, exaggeration, or ridicule used to expose and criticize people's stupidity in the context of contemporary politics 1/2

― lag∞n, Sunday, 30 March 2014 13:27 (twelve years ago)

~satire~

― lag∞n, Sunday, 30 March 2014 13:27 (twelve years ago)

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_rNMOlewSvvM/SfY99512h0I/AAAAAAAAB2A/QE-wBPwwXNk/s400/ouroboros.jpg

― lag∞n, Sunday, 30 March 2014 13:28 (twelve years ago)

Stewy Park ‏@suey_park 20h
Performing crazy as a politic to showcase how reasonable demands are inherently seen as crazy--using satire to make a point. I'm a writer...

― lag∞n, Sunday, 30 March 2014 13:28 (twelve years ago)

Stewy Park ‏@suey_park 20h
*Yawn* but thank you willful subjects for so ardently proving my point. It's been fun.

Stewy Park ‏@suey_park 20h
And now the white liberals are all "you're so mean for being smart and calculated" when yesterday I was "stupid, reactionary, unstudied".

Stewy Park ‏@suey_park 20h
Please note I've have managed to hint that I'm a creative writer in every interview. Satire is no fun when your audience isn't smart enough.

― lag∞n, Sunday, 30 March 2014 13:29 (twelve years ago)

Stewy Park ‏@suey_park 20h
Like I keep saying: trolling since 1990.

― lag∞n, Sunday, 30 March 2014 13:29 (twelve years ago)

yea tbh theres something i'm uncomfortable with going on when comedians start being hailed as unassailable truth tellers, even worse when the comedians themselves buy into it

if you start believing in the social value of your own comedy then i think you turn into a horrible monster, like say dennis miller

― patron sailor, Sunday, 30 March 2014 13:30 (twelve years ago)

i mean i dont want to go off on a rant here

― patron sailor, Sunday, 30 March 2014 13:31 (twelve years ago)

let it all out man s'ok safe space

― lag∞n, Sunday, 30 March 2014 13:32 (twelve years ago)

no no "don't let me go off on a rant here" is a thing miller used to say before spouting reference-laden word salad against the politically correct bozos in the clinton administration

― patron sailor, Sunday, 30 March 2014 13:39 (twelve years ago)

lol

― lag∞n, Sunday, 30 March 2014 13:40 (twelve years ago)

hold me back or im gonna rant

― lag∞n, Sunday, 30 March 2014 13:43 (twelve years ago)

audience: no plz rant u r smart and funny

― lag∞n, Sunday, 30 March 2014 13:43 (twelve years ago)

Satire Lesson 1: If you need to explain whatever it is that you were trying to do, it’s not working. - http://time.com/42174/we-want-to-cancelcolbert/

― some dude, Sunday, 30 March 2014 13:44 (twelve years ago)

maybe shes satirizing satire satire satire satire satire tho

― lag∞n, Sunday, 30 March 2014 13:45 (twelve years ago)

"the inability of white liberals to understand and absolve racism."

one of these words doesn't mean what she thinks it means?

anyway right or not this lady's tone is smug and irritating as all hell, and i'm p sure she's a bad writer? not that that's germane, but man

i understand that i am a horrible person here but anyone that says "thanks for playing" in any context whatsoever outside of the carnival midway is insufferable

― gbx, Sunday, 30 March 2014 13:46 (twelve years ago)

i dont believe her, doesnt make any sense

― lag∞n, Sunday, 30 March 2014 13:48 (twelve years ago)

i'm a writer...

― gbx, Sunday, 30 March 2014 13:48 (twelve years ago)

thanks for playing satire, enter more coins to continue... 10... 9... 8...

― patron sailor, Sunday, 30 March 2014 13:51 (twelve years ago)

Trolling for one's entire life is a p unhappy boast

― sonic thedgehod (albvivertine), Sunday, 30 March 2014 14:33 (twelve years ago)

speaking of smug...

― ryan, Sunday, 30 March 2014 14:38 (twelve years ago)

are her media appearances satire as well?

― I got the glares, the mutterings, the snarls (President Keyes), Sunday, 30 March 2014 14:57 (twelve years ago)

the desolation of smug

― President Frankenstein (kingfish), Sunday, 30 March 2014 16:43 (twelve years ago)

Fwiw I ws serious

― sonic thedgehod (albvivertine), Sunday, 30 March 2014 22:36 (twelve years ago)

This is mostly OTM: http://www.newyorker.com/online/blogs/newsdesk/2014/03/twitter-campaign-to-cancel-colbert-report.html

― Herbie Handcock (Murgatroid), Sunday, 30 March 2014 22:56 (twelve years ago)

Yeah that's good

― 龜, Sunday, 30 March 2014 23:15 (twelve years ago)

It's good, but he's really straining for balance.

I do not know if I believe that Park set out to incite this particular riot when she first tweeted #CancelColbert, but I also do not believe that any activist really owes an explanation for the mess she leaves in her wake.

Why not? Isn't this just using the lame logic that defends "edgy" racial humor? Doesn't this sort of put colbert's joke and her activism on the same continuum?

― ryan, Monday, 31 March 2014 00:43 (twelve years ago)

it’s hard not to wonder why these jokes always come at the expense of those least likely to protest

ah an actual example of begging the question!

― wat is teh waht (s.clover), Monday, 31 March 2014 00:50 (twelve years ago)

well, who caused the mess?

― j., Monday, 31 March 2014 00:51 (twelve years ago)

god maybe this is not demanding enough, but the fact that anyone is even talking about this is refreshing to me. this story would have gotten zero traction 10, even 5 years ago. (case in point i'm pretty sure that ching chong ping pong character was in like half a dozen early episodes, but it wasn't about to get an article in the new yorker.)

― een, Monday, 31 March 2014 01:12 (twelve years ago)

twitter is real, dont get it twisted

― lag∞n, Monday, 31 March 2014 01:28 (twelve years ago)

Twistter

― 龜, Monday, 31 March 2014 01:36 (twelve years ago)

New Yorker piece is OK but I'm v sick of that "Oh just bc I DO something doesn't necessarily mean I actually care" voice

― sonic thedgehod (albvivertine), Monday, 31 March 2014 02:11 (twelve years ago)

don't think there's an argument that starting a bunch of people demanding something you claim you don' really want is somehow a net good

― wat is teh waht (s.clover), Monday, 31 March 2014 02:34 (twelve years ago)

it's weird, on the one hand i still kinda despise (or maybe more rmde at) twitter activism as just another kind of self-satisfied empty and proudly and deliberately useless leftie gesture, similar to ows or stewart and colbert, and i still think it's fucked up that one anti-asian racist joke drew more outrage and attention than a notoriously historically bigoted billion dollar corporation (that doesn't even have to pay taxes as the govt for some reason treats the nfl like a nonprofit) that generates a ton of its revenue selling merchandise w/ a totally sincere not ironic racial slur on it responding to the very slight criticism it has finally started to receive for this by starting a 'foundation' for native americans w/ the racial slur in the foundation's name and hired a guy who swindled a million dollars from the bureau of indian affairs (cuz hey guess what this new foundation is gonna do) to head it up. otoh whether they want to spin it as justified or not (and who knows, colbert seems like a smart guy, maybe he's actually rethought this stuff the same way louis ck did a rethink), it seems very very unlikely colbert report will do any 'funny' anti-asian jokes again and maybe they'll even make the connection and not do any anti-trans jokes, etc in the future, and maybe it'll even carry wider than just the colbert-stewart nexus (though i wouldn't hold my breath on the south park guys). there's progress there.

― balls, Monday, 31 March 2014 03:02 (twelve years ago)

woah woah - NFL teams don't have to pay taxes?!

― Porto for Pyros (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Monday, 31 March 2014 04:13 (twelve years ago)

Can anyone come up with a less dramatic response than #CancelColbert? It also has to have the same number of letters and be as easily memorable. Not an easy task, is it?

― ▴▲ ▴TH3CR()$BY$H()W▴▲ ▴ (Adam Bruneau), Monday, 31 March 2014 04:16 (twelve years ago)

#ChastizeColbert

― Neanderthal, Monday, 31 March 2014 04:18 (twelve years ago)

#calloutcolbert
#critiquecolbert
#killcolbert

― Mordy , Monday, 31 March 2014 04:18 (twelve years ago)

#BoycottColbert

― ▴▲ ▴TH3CR()$BY$H()W▴▲ ▴ (Adam Bruneau), Monday, 31 March 2014 04:19 (twelve years ago)

#castratecolbert

― Neanderthal, Monday, 31 March 2014 04:20 (twelve years ago)

#teabagcolbert

― Neanderthal, Monday, 31 March 2014 04:20 (twelve years ago)

#carefulnowcolbert

― christmas candy bar (al leong), Monday, 31 March 2014 04:24 (twelve years ago)

#coolitcolbert

― balls, Monday, 31 March 2014 04:49 (twelve years ago)

#colbertsTwitterFeedShouldBeMoreCarefullyMonitoredBecauseTwitterLosesContext

― wat is teh waht (s.clover), Monday, 31 March 2014 04:56 (twelve years ago)

you can abbreviate it so it fits. #ctwfbmcmbtlc

― wat is teh waht (s.clover), Monday, 31 March 2014 04:56 (twelve years ago)

I think that Colbert caused the flashpoint because he's seen as being on our side, as it were, held to a higher standard, (probably) responsive to criticism, and not generally known for doing blatantly racist shit.

This is contrasted with a huge corporation with a long history of doing racist shit that is expected to do racist shit, and thus it doesn't come as a shock when they do, even to the profoundly stupid extent of the foundation. There's no shock or surprise or feeling of betrayal, in other words.

Man bites dog vs dog bites man, sorta.

I agree with the earlier article that one reason attempts at online activism take this form is that every single other method of attempted cultural or political change is broken and will be for the foreseeable future. The steering linkage is busted, so even successfully grabbing the wheel won't help much.

So all the anger and hurt and energy pent up explodes out in this stupid form, as no other channel is immediately obvious(or available).

I just wish that we figure could out a way to effect or affect change that actually changed something. If all the 20th Century forms of change are no longer viable(mass strikes, marches, or even fuckin' voting, for that matter), what are we gunna do now other than wank around online. We tend to need some Grand Narrative to be a part of, so internet bandwagon-jumping is all people got. The fact that its the most lazy-ass thing to do doesn't help, letting people partially satisfy that drive without the nasty bits required that might actually get your fingernails dirty.

― President Frankenstein (kingfish), Monday, 31 March 2014 06:14 (twelve years ago)

Park admitted that despite the hashtag’s command, she did not want “The Colbert Report” to be cancelled.

The girl who hashtagged #wolf

After the success of #NotYourAsianSidekick I think this might be Suey's New Jersey.

― What is wrong with songs? Absolutely nothing. Songs are great. (DL), Monday, 31 March 2014 09:41 (twelve years ago)

The whole "I'm just playing crazy 'cause that's what people expect of me" backpedaling thing just reminds me of the scene in Pee-Wee's Big Adventure where he's stunting on his bike, flips over the handlebars, takes an epic faceplant on someone's lawn and gets up brushing his suit off and sneers, "I meant to do that."

― Humorist (horse) (誤訳侮辱), Monday, 31 March 2014 14:15 (twelve years ago)

god maybe this is not demanding enough, but the fact that anyone is even talking about this is refreshing to me. this story would have gotten zero traction 10, even 5 years ago. (case in point i'm pretty sure that ching chong ping pong character was in like half a dozen early episodes, but it wasn't about to get an article in the new yorker.)
yeah, he's done this shit more than a few times. Suey may have an obnoxious internet voice, but she's basically right here

― Nhex, Monday, 31 March 2014 14:24 (twelve years ago)

http://thoughtcatalog.com/anne-gus/2014/03/asian-women-need-to-stop-dating-white-men/

guess this could just go on the race thread but it's so similar to the colbert thing i figured i'd post it here. like the colbert bit, satire with an admirable target that falls into racism itself (though in fairness colbert/his writers are a hell of a lot brighter than this person)

― surfbort memes get played out, totally (k3vin k.), Monday, 31 March 2014 14:25 (twelve years ago)

I'm unsure what she thinks she was revealing about bigotry. There are enough assholes out there who will throw rape threats (plus racist abuse if it's a WoC) with minimal provocation - it's happened to every British feminist I follow on Twitter, prominent or otherwise, for the thinnest of reasons - so if you deliberately choose a provocative demand (that you don't actually believe in) you are bound to provoke the assholes. It's still a horrible experience to get that kind of abuse but it doesn't reveal anything about Colbert fans in particular. Surely there should be more of a takeaway from this than "Many white men on the internet are aggressive bigots".

At least there's this - "the fact that anyone is even talking about this is refreshing to me" - but the heat:light ratio's pretty bad.

― What is wrong with songs? Absolutely nothing. Songs are great. (DL), Monday, 31 March 2014 14:27 (twelve years ago)

Has Arthur Chu chimed in yet?

― Josh in Chicago, Monday, 31 March 2014 14:28 (twelve years ago)

I didn't see the 'admirable target' in that piece tbqh

― 龜, Monday, 31 March 2014 14:28 (twelve years ago)

Me neither. At a loss. The parodic apology is even worse.

― What is wrong with songs? Absolutely nothing. Songs are great. (DL), Monday, 31 March 2014 14:37 (twelve years ago)

You do know that "Anne Gus" is a troll account set up by a gymbro, right?

That ThoughtCatalog website is such a shitfest

― DDD, Monday, 31 March 2014 14:40 (twelve years ago)

http://thenewinquiry.com/blogs/zunguzungu/this-is-when-things-got-weird-and-ugly/

can't resist getting in a little 'defenders are uptight bitches' at the end (w/ gender mouthpiecing to do it!), is no critic pure??

― j., Monday, 31 March 2014 14:40 (twelve years ago)

Yeah I figured as much when I first saw that piece - some Taki mag level of trolling xp

― 龜, Monday, 31 March 2014 14:41 (twelve years ago)

I didn't see the 'admirable target' in that piece tbqh

― 龜, Monday, March 31, 2014 10:28 AM (6 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

oh let's just say there are people out there whose tumblr social justice ideas are about as nuanced as ones in the article she was parodying. i mean, i didn't even realize it was satire until several paragraphs in. not saying there are people on ilx who actually believe all relationships between white men and asian women are inherently problematic, or similarly given to speaking in breathless, half-educated absolutes.......but they're out there and they're fair game for a lil ribbing

― surfbort memes get played out, totally (k3vin k.), Monday, 31 March 2014 14:59 (twelve years ago)

I'm appreciating the rhetorical gymnastics going on for the sake of reasonable objectivity here, like how the lone woman reacting online to a racist joke is being held to the same scrutiny as the hugely popular comedian with a staff of writers and a daily current events show on a cable network with a viewership of millions

gotta hear both sides and judge both wanting, that's how you KNOW the critique is objective right

― patron sailor, Monday, 31 March 2014 15:02 (twelve years ago)

and yeah like i said the piece is terrible, and i didn't realize it was a troll site, i have no idea what thought catalog is. it was posted (non-ironically) on my facebook feed

― surfbort memes get played out, totally (k3vin k.), Monday, 31 March 2014 15:03 (twelve years ago)

wasn't the whole point of the troll that thoughtcatalog is "legit"?

― Nhex, Monday, 31 March 2014 15:05 (twelve years ago)

rhetorical gymnastics indeed

― balls, Monday, 31 March 2014 15:07 (twelve years ago)

lol i couldn't figure out why patron sailor's whiny bullshit sounded familiar to me. glad to see self-righteous ilx posters never really leave, they just change their dns.

― Mordy , Monday, 31 March 2014 15:11 (twelve years ago)

hmmm yes indeed

― patron sailor, Monday, 31 March 2014 15:12 (twelve years ago)

i usually like aaron bady but the first paragraph, the first line really, is just barely true. "Words describing Suey Park in the last three paragraphs of Jay Caspian Kang’s “The Campaign to “Cancel” Colbert“" -- what follows are not that, exactly

― goole, Monday, 31 March 2014 15:12 (twelve years ago)

huge lol at actually trying to use 'giving the same* scrutiny to some trivial evil as you would to a much greater and more powerful and popular and pervasive evil is ridiculous' in yr favor in this context though, i'm not sure how many followers you have but i see great things happening for yr brand in the future

* or in this case MUCH MORE

― balls, Monday, 31 March 2014 15:13 (twelve years ago)

nice as always to see you too mordy. xo

― patron sailor, Monday, 31 March 2014 15:15 (twelve years ago)

i'm honored ;)

― Mordy , Monday, 31 March 2014 15:15 (twelve years ago)

mordy you have a problem

― goole, Monday, 31 March 2014 15:17 (twelve years ago)

i dunno i'm not gonna pretend that suey park is especially noble or that her style of online activism is flawless, but I just don't feel terribly compelled to go into just how wrong she is and why she's engaging the wrong way and basically establishing a criteria for what sort of activism is acceptable to me and what complaints are worthy of consideration, as so many have done over the weekend (not pointing to individual posters here, just generalizing over the thinkpiece culture around this event.)

imho colbert & CC have the greater responsibility here to not do racist stuff than park has to critique racism in the right way, whatever that is.

― patron sailor, Monday, 31 March 2014 15:28 (twelve years ago)

agreed

― balls, Monday, 31 March 2014 15:29 (twelve years ago)

i tried to find where i responded on ilx to the onion kike story but basically my take on it then, and still is now, is that i personally felt uncomfortable by the humor bc it has strong + upsetting associations for me, but i understood the intent in which the story was written and i think it was effective particularly bc of how uncomfortable it made me feel.

― Mordy , Monday, 31 March 2014 15:30 (twelve years ago)

imo what made the colbert joke weaker was that it wasn't more offensive + more racist

― Mordy , Monday, 31 March 2014 15:32 (twelve years ago)

also straight white men should be banned from doing satire, please sign my change.org petition

― patron sailor, Monday, 31 March 2014 15:33 (twelve years ago)

and while part of me is still like 'fight the real enemy' i'm actually sympathetic to an idea that by taking out the low hanging fruit and knocking out the easy pegs you can make it even more unfeasible for the dan snyders of the world to operate (i mean one by product of this in how it was covered in the press is that when the washington hatcats were mentioned at all it was in the context of 'stephen colbert was being ironically racist as a way of satirizing the sincerely racist washington hatcats'). ppl can say 'she's just as wrong as he was' but if she is then her potential wrongness isn't nearly as harmful as his potential wrongness, and that's before you factor in the relative actual impact and audience of their actions. anyhow there are better ways and definitely better times to draw attention to bigoted behavior from ppl that are theoretically 'on yr side' but there are also better ways to mock dan snyder. for example: http://deadspin.com/arizona-police-sketch-looks-exactly-like-dan-snyder-1554471526

― balls, Monday, 31 March 2014 15:38 (twelve years ago)

I don't hold Suey Park to the same standards as Comedy Central but if you write "Satire Lesson 1: If you need to explain whatever it is that you were trying to do, it’s not working. Your audience is telling you that it’s broken, it’s old. It needs to be reworked," and then a couple of days later you're having to explain your own widely misunderstood satire, and you don't appear to show any awareness of the irony, then that's a bit of a problem.

― What is wrong with songs? Absolutely nothing. Songs are great. (DL), Monday, 31 March 2014 15:46 (twelve years ago)

it's a kinda small problem though, she's a hair more powerful and influential than the psycho bigots that were tweeting at her and proving some point in her head. she's as easy to shrug off w/ 'there are all kinds of stupid anonymous losers on the internet' as those assholes, more so since her stupidity and 'what it is symptomatic of' etc isn't nearly as toxic or powerful as the anonymous bigots.

― balls, Monday, 31 March 2014 16:10 (twelve years ago)

i agree. her dumb-ass trolling is a pretty insignificant concern compared to what she's actually criticizing here

― Nhex, Monday, 31 March 2014 16:14 (twelve years ago)

True

― What is wrong with songs? Absolutely nothing. Songs are great. (DL), Monday, 31 March 2014 16:19 (twelve years ago)

i think there is an underlying critique to "there are a lot of racist bigots on the internet," I mean if you reasonably assume at least some of the ppl tweeting abuse at park are Colbert fans (& some racist opportunists sure) it's hard to imagine that set of fans receiving the satire qua satire, maybe it's the more troublesome fact that some white comedy bros are just enjoying the transgressive thrill of open racism

― patron sailor, Monday, 31 March 2014 16:29 (twelve years ago)

many of the folks decrying the offended as "too sensitive" were friends of mine who love Colbert, lib-leaning folks. It's much easier to sweep the issue under the rug if you attribute some of these negative reactions to the net-plankton that spend their days sending out abusive tweets, less so when you realize there's overlap w/ the Colbert target audience.

helped less so by the doofuses at Deadspin.

― Neanderthal, Monday, 31 March 2014 16:32 (twelve years ago)

god that aaron bady piece is such a headache-inducing smugfest.

― (The Other) J.D. (J.D.), Monday, 31 March 2014 17:44 (twelve years ago)

much like everything else i've ever read of his tbh.

― (The Other) J.D. (J.D.), Monday, 31 March 2014 17:45 (twelve years ago)

also straight white men should be banned from doing satire, please sign my change.org petition

― patron sailor, Monday, March 31, 2014 11:33 AM (11 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

what if straight white men... are satire

― lag∞n, Tuesday, 1 April 2014 02:57 (twelve years ago)

also worth considering as to why suey park attracted so much criticism over this amongst the obvs reasons like prejudice and double standards is shes the only one who did anything remotely interesting or novel, the story is about her, the colbert part is strictly dog bites man

― lag∞n, Tuesday, 1 April 2014 03:00 (twelve years ago)

also lol her schtick is pretty lame but w/e

― lag∞n, Tuesday, 1 April 2014 03:02 (twelve years ago)

Stephen Colbert ‏@StephenAtHome 1m
Tune in tonight for the dramatic conclusion of how my show did not conclude! #NotCanceled

― lag∞n, Tuesday, 1 April 2014 03:05 (twelve years ago)

tricia matthew ‏@triciamatthew 52s
so first joke about #CancelColbert is three minutes into "Daily Show."

― lag∞n, Tuesday, 1 April 2014 03:05 (twelve years ago)

alright, congratulations #cancelcolbert, i'm going to watch daily show + colbert tnite for the first time in a year

― Mordy , Tuesday, 1 April 2014 03:06 (twelve years ago)

i kind of want to but i dont think im gonna

― lag∞n, Tuesday, 1 April 2014 03:07 (twelve years ago)

watching the commercials it dawned on me that the network that currently has new episodes of tosh.o airing is not going to cancel colbert

― Mordy , Tuesday, 1 April 2014 03:28 (twelve years ago)

I was half-surprised that Park herself didn't turn up

― Simon H., Tuesday, 1 April 2014 03:49 (twelve years ago)

yeah that wouldve been good they shldve interviewed her

― lag∞n, Tuesday, 1 April 2014 12:20 (twelve years ago)

He didn't actually mention her name on the show. I think they were attempting to squander the harassers that were acting on his behalf.

― Evan, Tuesday, 1 April 2014 12:36 (twelve years ago)

some on her twitter feed were mad that Colbert showed her picture. idgi. She's been appearing in the media about this issue.

― I got the glares, the mutterings, the snarls (President Keyes), Tuesday, 1 April 2014 13:05 (twelve years ago)

our sisters of perpetual fury

― Mordy , Tuesday, 1 April 2014 13:31 (twelve years ago)

O'neal's writeup:

“Who would’ve thought a means of communication limited to 140 characters would ever cause a misunderstanding?” Colbert asked of this, the devil’s telegraph.

― President Frankenstein (kingfish), Tuesday, 1 April 2014 17:54 (twelve years ago)

Money that will be donated to Dan Snyder's Washington http://images.chron.com/blogs/askacat/hatcat.JPG Original American Foundation, which twitter seems to be fine with because I haven't seen shit about that.

Yeah, I wonder why. It's not like anybody brought it up and then proceeded to do an over-the-top showy self-aware skit that more or less entirely took the focus off the original target of the satire.

― ▴▲ ▴TH3CR()$BY$H()W▴▲ ▴ (Adam Bruneau), Wednesday, 2 April 2014 00:01 (twelve years ago)

wathced colberts response and he is a very quality performer, just want to take a moment to appresh

― lag∞n, Wednesday, 2 April 2014 00:50 (twelve years ago)

apparently at some point it was decided by someone that the real issue is twitter and the lack of context? like i know people were talking about that before but now i'm seeing actual articles claiming a seat of objectivity acting like that's the decided-upon consensus problem and apparently that's how colbert approached it last night. when that doesn't really seem to be the problem at all with anyone who's actually complained about this. ppl acting like if suey park just saw the original sketch it'd all be ok, like people just saw that tweet out of context and their big dumb heads exploded with rage. big progressive leap we've taken from "some people just can't take a joke" to "some people are just too stupid to understand a joke"

― linda cardellini (zachlyon), Wednesday, 2 April 2014 01:06 (twelve years ago)

and i guess it's just annoying that the show is the only response he's made to it, via that character, like obv it all comes from the character and most of the time people have a problem with it they aren't really familiar with it (assuming this is like... 2004, before everyone heard about him), but this is criticism leveled against the writers behind the character with awareness, and when he responds like that it looks like he's using the character as a shield.

― linda cardellini (zachlyon), Wednesday, 2 April 2014 01:10 (twelve years ago)

His assertion that no one took offense to the original sketch when it aired (or at least didn't say anything about it on social media if they did) is correct as far as I can tell. So I think a case exists to be made that taking things out of context is part of the issue.

Then again, he appears in the segment to have retired the bit from here on out, which I think is a tacit acknowledgement that it wasn't worth keeping around.

― Simon H., Wednesday, 2 April 2014 01:25 (twelve years ago)

Sorry, not "no one," just nothing compared to the shitstorm that followed post-tweet.

― Simon H., Wednesday, 2 April 2014 01:27 (twelve years ago)

the virality of outrage my dissertation by me

― lag∞n, Wednesday, 2 April 2014 01:28 (twelve years ago)

you mean bc no one started a #cancelcolbert campaign that made the news strictly because it was the #cancelcolbert campaign no one took offense. if it hadn't become a national story there is a 0% chance he would've responded to it in any way.

if you really want to know if it's a context issue you can just read what the complaining parties are saying about it and realize it isn't a context issue

and he retires segments all the time, like 20 years ago i added "the splendiferous zeppelin escapades of filliam h muffman" to my facebook 'favorite movies' list cause i thought people would understand after a month or two, they did not

― linda cardellini (zachlyon), Wednesday, 2 April 2014 01:31 (twelve years ago)

that was a great gag tho

― linda cardellini (zachlyon), Wednesday, 2 April 2014 01:32 (twelve years ago)

No I get that people's concerns go beyond the tweet. (Whether or not the real Colbert gets that is unclear, but I do think the timing of the gag retirement suggests he does.) But without the tweet, which was not Colbert-sanctioned, no #CancelColbert, surely?

Anyway, the segment itself did a serviceable job responding in character, refocusing on Snyder's awfulness, and parsing how it went down. I'd have liked more engagement w/ Park and her saying that it was an attempt at satire, but there was quite a bit of juggling going on as-is. (That might have also come out too late for it to be included? Not sure of the production schedule.)

― Simon H., Wednesday, 2 April 2014 01:48 (twelve years ago)

its basically impossible to engage with parks satire sensically without the universe collapsing which is why everyone is ignoring it m/l

― lag∞n, Wednesday, 2 April 2014 01:54 (twelve years ago)

his joke abt how he doesnt see color so the only way he can tell hes white is because he spent the last five minutes arguing that he isnt racist was so money

― lag∞n, Wednesday, 2 April 2014 01:55 (twelve years ago)

yeah that was def the highlight of the episode

― some dude, Wednesday, 2 April 2014 02:26 (twelve years ago)

http://www.salon.com/2014/04/03/cancelcolbert_activist_suey_park_this_is_not_reform_this_is_revolution/

So what do you want to see happen in your revolution?

I mean, it’s already happening I think. The revolution will not be an apocalypse, it’s gonna be a series of shifts in consciousness that result in actions that come about, and I think that like, at this point is really like, ride or die, in terms who’s in and who is out. I don’t play by appeasement politics, it is not about getting my oppressors to humanize me. And in that sense I reject the respectability politics, I reject being tone-policed, I think we need to do away with this idea that these structures are … that the prisons can undergo reform and somehow do less violence as a structure. But any example like that.

Wait, can you ask that question again, I got distracted real quick, there was a bird outside my window.

wau, most insidious 'literal transcript' interview technique ever

― j., Thursday, 3 April 2014 17:24 (twelve years ago)

ha i read that as her shading him

― goole, Thursday, 3 April 2014 17:26 (twelve years ago)

(if it's a him? idk that writer/name)

― goole, Thursday, 3 April 2014 17:26 (twelve years ago)

oh duh i didn't even scroll all the way down, whoops

― goole, Thursday, 3 April 2014 17:35 (twelve years ago)

no i think she's just bordering on incoherent at many points and the interviewer (she, her picture is at the bottom) left the entire conversation in:

Angry Asian Woman ‏@suey_park 2h

Also, thank you @Salon for trying to make me seem stupid with all those "likes" and stating my distraction by bird. Totally necessary.

― j., Thursday, 3 April 2014 17:35 (twelve years ago)

Angry Asian Woman ‏@suey_park 1h

Salon piece "edited heavily" but they included any part that would make me sound ditzy and unclear. Must be Thursday.

― j., Thursday, 3 April 2014 17:36 (twelve years ago)

oh yeah, salon, bastion of anti-PC reactionary conservatism. gmafb

― Mordy , Thursday, 3 April 2014 17:38 (twelve years ago)

apparently at some point it was decided by someone that the real issue is twitter and the lack of context?

yeah most criticism of twitter as a medium is all about oh no 140 characters isn't enough for nuance, oh no our discourse is atrophying, etc etc blah blah, kind of sick of hearing it tbh

― patron sailor, Thursday, 3 April 2014 17:44 (twelve years ago)

things that are said over and over again, like that, are often true

― surfbort memes get played out, totally (k3vin k.), Thursday, 3 April 2014 17:47 (twelve years ago)

the Q&A right after that quote is actually a lot better:

I was asking you about if you want white people — because they’re still the majority — if you want them to be allies in your goal to end racism?

Well, one, they won’t be the majority for long. And two, I don’t want any ally who is going to use my emotional labor with no guarantee of aiding my liberation. And so I feel like this question that white America asks of us, “Why can’t you be reasonable to get us to work with you?” And I keep saying, being reasonable has never worked in history. All other big racial justice movements, all of the big historical figures in racial justice were never reasonable. They were always painted as crazy during their time, and even afterwards now. And I think people forget that because they want to look at these things in the past and not the present, and I think people need time and space to understand the sickness of things that happen now, especially because they don’t understand digital lives and our generation.

― Nhex, Thursday, 3 April 2014 17:53 (twelve years ago)

the big figures like rev. dr. here are my reasons for disobeying the law martin luther king jr.

― j., Thursday, 3 April 2014 17:56 (twelve years ago)

?

― Nhex, Thursday, 3 April 2014 17:57 (twelve years ago)

wrt twitter i understand that the constraints of the medium create it's particular character, sure ok, but I feel like it's often used as an excuse when people feel that their tweets have been misinterpreted. character limits per se don't cause misunderstandings, but failing to adapt to those limits can be disastrous; failing to use the format successfully doesn't mean the format is a failure.

― patron sailor, Thursday, 3 April 2014 17:59 (twelve years ago)

don't blame twitter if you make bad tweets is how i break it down to an extent iirc

― patron sailor, Thursday, 3 April 2014 18:02 (twelve years ago)

It seems the case that every interview with a sj twitter activist ends with the subject complaining about have their answers edited.

― I got the glares, the mutterings, the snarls (President Keyes), Thursday, 3 April 2014 18:04 (twelve years ago)

Having

― I got the glares, the mutterings, the snarls (President Keyes), Thursday, 3 April 2014 18:04 (twelve years ago)

wrt twitter i understand that the constraints of the medium create it's particular character, sure ok, but I feel like it's often used as an excuse when people feel that their tweets have been misinterpreted. character limits per se don't cause misunderstandings, but failing to adapt to those limits can be disastrous; failing to use the format successfully doesn't mean the format is a failure.

― patron sailor, Thursday, April 3, 2014 1:59 PM (9 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

don't blame twitter if you make bad tweets is how i break it down to an extent iirc

― patron sailor, Thursday, April 3, 2014 2:02 PM (6 minutes ago)

oh i mean i totally agree, but i think also it has to be taken on a case-by-case basis. here we're talking about a tweet some idiot 22 year old intern sent out, i mean what can you do. but again this is to say nothing about the issues with the full joke itself, as zach was referring to

― surfbort memes get played out, totally (k3vin k.), Thursday, 3 April 2014 18:10 (twelve years ago)

here we're talking about a tweet some idiot 22 year old intern sent out

And the response from a 23-year-old idiot.

― Humorist (horse) (誤訳侮辱), Thursday, 3 April 2014 18:19 (twelve years ago)

it’s gonna be a series of shifts in consciousness that result in actions that come about,

lol someone didnt do the reading

― lag∞n, Thursday, 3 April 2014 18:31 (twelve years ago)

a. Whites become plurality
b. ???
c. Liberation!

― I got the glares, the mutterings, the snarls (President Keyes), Thursday, 3 April 2014 18:47 (twelve years ago)

its not #actually the whiteness thats the problem sry

― lag∞n, Thursday, 3 April 2014 18:48 (twelve years ago)

belief that the end of whites in america as a majority will solve inequality is the reason why identity issues actually undermine economic/marxist critiques

― Mordy , Thursday, 3 April 2014 18:50 (twelve years ago)

also whites will never be a minority, whiteness is a construct?

― lag∞n, Thursday, 3 April 2014 18:51 (twelve years ago)

if #whiteness is = entrenched racial attitudes, than yes it is the problem

― Nhex, Thursday, 3 April 2014 19:16 (twelve years ago)

thats a weird word for entrenched racial attitudes tho especially considering it means something already

― lag∞n, Thursday, 3 April 2014 19:19 (twelve years ago)

like white supremacy maybe

― lag∞n, Thursday, 3 April 2014 19:19 (twelve years ago)

belief that the end of whites in america as a majority will solve inequality is the reason why identity issues actually undermine economic/marxist critiques

this is racist against straw americans

― patron sailor, Thursday, 3 April 2014 19:23 (twelve years ago)

lol sure

― Mordy , Thursday, 3 April 2014 19:24 (twelve years ago)

i mean like idk who believes that "fewer white ppl will end inequality" except maybe the titular character in the rollicking 90s political satire bullworth

― patron sailor, Thursday, 3 April 2014 19:26 (twelve years ago)

good stuff i love satire, respect beatty

― lag∞n, Thursday, 3 April 2014 19:27 (twelve years ago)

It's more than that though. There's a definite binary, at least in America, between Whiteness and Blackness, regardless of your actual genes, judged by your skin, speech, and so on. Whiteness is the status quo, for better or worse; given a choice it's always obvious which one will grant you more success. (I don't think anyone is actually advocating white genocide, as a strawman...)

― Nhex, Thursday, 3 April 2014 19:40 (twelve years ago)

All the talk about Twitter was a good way for Colbert to deflect attention away from the actual segment he performed on air. He really didn't address what he actually did at all.

― ▴▲ ▴TH3CR()$BY$H()W▴▲ ▴ (Adam Bruneau), Thursday, 3 April 2014 20:27 (twelve years ago)

feels like park and her allies perhaps missed an opportunity because they failed (at least I didn't see it) to articulate why colbert's normal schtick is ok but this one instance was not ok. I think they can make this nuanced distinction but the mode of protest seems to flatten that articulation out and make it an issue of "getting" the joke instead. on the other hand a less inflammatory approach is liable to be ignored so you could argue it was all pragmatically justified.

― ryan, Thursday, 3 April 2014 20:43 (twelve years ago)

I <3 whites

― Pedro Thelion, Thursday, 3 April 2014 21:43 (twelve years ago)

I've been seeing a lot of internal criticism of Suey from within the AAPI activist community. Here's one from someone who did work closely with her for a time:

http://fascinasiansblog.com/post/81601449659/from-here-to-there-my-experience-in-hashtag-land

― 龜, Friday, 4 April 2014 01:34 (twelve years ago)

what a world

― lag∞n, Friday, 4 April 2014 01:44 (twelve years ago)

you can't argue with someone who's constantly moving the goalposts and accusing you of personal attacks any time you critique the substance of their ideas. do the parts of twitter that got all riled up by park need to learn message board 101 or something?

― maura, Friday, 4 April 2014 03:28 (twelve years ago)

also sorry if it's 'gaslighting' to demand a coherent argument from someone with power to whip people into a frenzy

― maura, Friday, 4 April 2014 03:29 (twelve years ago)

im actually mad at myself for posting to this thread because her power, such as it is, is completely derived from people thinking about her

― maura, Friday, 4 April 2014 03:30 (twelve years ago)

also sorry if it's 'gaslighting' to demand a coherent argument from someone with power to whip people into a frenzy
--maura

racist

― art, Friday, 4 April 2014 03:50 (twelve years ago)

Very constructive comment, art

― 龜, Friday, 4 April 2014 03:53 (twelve years ago)

That Park interview has some great, righteous, and intelligent moments, and then it's got some "oh my god get out of your own fucking way" moments. Basically, it nicely encapsulates The Left.

The part about Colbert taking away attention from Snyder, not the hashtag, struck me as odd. If White Structure/Colonialism is rampant enough that this kind of old-hat Orientalism joke is widely accepted - and hence, the reason for the hashtag - then it has no value other than to hold a satirical mirror up to the original subject of Dan Snyder's organization. If the point of the hashtag was to highlight this entrenched racism that otherwise goes by unnoticed, then that disrupts the gag and makes it no longer about Snyder, but about the joke. All of which is perfectly reasonable, I think, but saying that Colbert took away the attention and not the hashtag activism seems kind of bullshit.

― Insane Prince of False Binaries (Gukbe), Friday, 4 April 2014 04:16 (twelve years ago)

agreed

― Nhex, Friday, 4 April 2014 04:31 (twelve years ago)

Park's constantly being "triggered" by criticism and accusing those who disagree with her of being ablists for arguing with someone with mental instability, yet she cares not at all what her dehumanizing language is doing to the mental state of many of the people who idolize her.

― I got the glares, the mutterings, the snarls (President Keyes), Friday, 4 April 2014 09:07 (twelve years ago)

that sounds familiar

― conrad, Friday, 4 April 2014 09:17 (twelve years ago)

Shhhh, mods are listening.

― Three Word Username, Friday, 4 April 2014 09:48 (twelve years ago)

Suey Park is doing a great job of bringing a social justice Twitter strawman to life.

― What is wrong with songs? Absolutely nothing. Songs are great. (DL), Friday, 4 April 2014 10:44 (twelve years ago)

the thing that struck me abt that piece is to what extent social justice twitter is a culture in and of itself, just like the way shes talking abt the hashtags, thats their thing theyre living it

― lag∞n, Friday, 4 April 2014 11:02 (twelve years ago)

lot of egregiously stupid stuff in there too

― lag∞n, Friday, 4 April 2014 11:02 (twelve years ago)

That Juliet Shen article linked to above very much reminded me of the New Yorker piece by Susan Faludi about Shulamith Firestone and the purity wars and shunnings in 1970s feminism:
http://www.newyorker.com/reporting/2013/04/15/130415fa_fact_faludi?currentPage=all

― I got the glares, the mutterings, the snarls (President Keyes), Friday, 4 April 2014 11:08 (twelve years ago)

It’s been surreal watching the past two weeks unfold. Thousands of people are pitting themselves against one another in a messy and dirty war, many of whom are people I looked to for guidance when getting started as a blogger. The hope and idealism I had when I first started out in Hashtag-Land is gone. I never thought that the internet, this magical whirlwind of open forums and platforms, would turn into this dichotomous hell.

lol

― lag∞n, Friday, 4 April 2014 11:16 (twelve years ago)

I have seriously considered going completely offline, just getting a job, moving to California, and pretending there aren’t a million things I want to say

― lag∞n, Friday, 4 April 2014 11:17 (twelve years ago)

The elephants in the SJ Twitter room are (a) that some prominent activists with worthy causes might be vain/incoherent/bullying/intolerant/all of the above, as has been the case in every political movement ever, and (b) that the toxicity (loaded word, sorry, but you know what I mean) is sometimes directed at fellow activists, women and PoC, not just privileged white people. The Juliet Shen piece suggests that both are the case here but because of kneejerk polarisation it's hard for SJ activists to acknowledge that anyone ostensibly on their side might be behaving badly or to back down an inch when bad behaviour comes to light.

― What is wrong with songs? Absolutely nothing. Songs are great. (DL), Friday, 4 April 2014 11:17 (twelve years ago)

when calling people out is considered the highest form of expression then you are going to have a culture of calling people out, like you have to believe in something a little more substantial than criticism if you really want to make a better world

― lag∞n, Friday, 4 April 2014 11:24 (twelve years ago)

theres a def fascination with this weaponized language, and with good reason its very powerful, but weapons are also v dangerous

― lag∞n, Friday, 4 April 2014 11:26 (twelve years ago)

fell like its not enough just to be right, you have to actually be better than whatever entrenched power structure youre trying to topple

― lag∞n, Friday, 4 April 2014 11:31 (twelve years ago)

It's on an entirely different scale but I keep thinking of the various revolutionaries who became tyrants. It's easy to believe you're infallible as long as you're punching up but bad habits only become stronger with power.

More encouragingly, I heard something recently about Gloria Steinem and how a lot of the key feminists who had daggers drawn in the 70s now like to meet up and support each other. Age quelled the infighting.

― What is wrong with songs? Absolutely nothing. Songs are great. (DL), Friday, 4 April 2014 11:52 (twelve years ago)

http://i.imgur.com/mdrBi3p.jpg

― 龜, Friday, 4 April 2014 13:11 (twelve years ago)

Dude second from the right is thinking "Damn, I wonder if the National need a second drummer"

― 龜, Friday, 4 April 2014 13:37 (twelve years ago)

5 of them are thinking "shit, where did I put down my glasses?"

― some dude, Friday, 4 April 2014 13:37 (twelve years ago)

This Benetton ad isn't working at all.

― What is wrong with songs? Absolutely nothing. Songs are great. (DL), Friday, 4 April 2014 13:39 (twelve years ago)

lol

― lag∞n, Friday, 4 April 2014 14:56 (twelve years ago)

I think any community formation, especially ones with some notion of a nebulous purity of intent at the heart of its identity, will tend to an autoimmune obsession with inclusion/exclusion (the communists being of course the paradigm of this, and now the tea party) which is, to my mind, the very thing the left needs to be most circumspect about.

― ryan, Friday, 4 April 2014 15:03 (twelve years ago)

revolutionary (in a pretty broad sense) communities particularly vulnerable to ^^^ this i think? if not actually doomed by it

like it wasn't all the communists who were obsessed w purgation and control: it was the bolsheviks, but the bolsheviks won

i agree that criticism can't build a new society but maybe you can't see your way to a new society until the old one's sufficiently demolished to afford a view--that is, there's people who Only Come To Destroy, whose ideology seems, in full, empty and caustic, who are in fact valuable to the long process of change. but yeah when critics take power they have no one left to criticize except their fellow critics, and the infighting once performed via nasty letters and excommunications from secret clubs takes up the weaponry of power. given the focus and dedication and violence (figurative and literal) required for successful big change, it's rly hard to keep yr revolution from eating itself. (now that the bolsheviks are the west's textbook caution against revolution it's distressing to think about how not-new this phenomenon was to them, given 1794--how much trotsky worries about the historical poison of hierarchy and bureaucracy and pretensions to purity even as he also believes lenin is the one.) idk. maybe lag∞n is right, that division of labor is in fact the problem, we can't perform criticism without a belief system any more than we can build a belief system without criticism, everybody has to be both destroyer + creator, grace won't come until we unify ourselves. some people definitely do that, are that--but they tend to be, like, jesus, or mlk, and u know what happens to those people.

― difficult listening hour, Friday, 4 April 2014 18:28 (twelve years ago)

really thought that was stephin merritt third from the right there

― difficult listening hour, Friday, 4 April 2014 18:30 (twelve years ago)

J.J. Abrams stan second from left.

― That's So (Eazy), Friday, 4 April 2014 18:33 (twelve years ago)

maybe lag∞n is right, that division of labor is in fact the problem, we can't perform criticism without a belief system any more than we can build a belief system without criticism, everybody has to be both destroyer + creator, grace won't come until we unify ourselves. some people definitely do that, are that--but they tend to be, like, jesus, or mlk, and u know what happens to those people.

― difficult listening hour, Friday, April 4, 2014 2:28 PM (6 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

yeah idk if i believe that revolution is like a real thing but i think this is good advice for spiritual unity

― lag∞n, Friday, 4 April 2014 18:38 (twelve years ago)

I think a certain deal with the devil is prob necessary when advocating for social change, but at the same time id be happy to see more jesus than lenin in these circles. not to say that the latter is dispensable! but we can be conscious of which model we're following at any given moment.

― ryan, Friday, 4 April 2014 18:56 (twelve years ago)

feel like communism is the ultimate example of building some based entirely on criticism

― lag∞n, Friday, 4 April 2014 19:02 (twelve years ago)

http://criticalspontaneity.com/2013/12/01/871/

― Mordy , Friday, 4 April 2014 23:30 (twelve years ago)

a lot of good points in that article actually

― Nhex, Friday, 4 April 2014 23:42 (twelve years ago)

undecided whether #2's 'victim-blaming' or #4's 'identities' is my fave

― j., Friday, 4 April 2014 23:42 (twelve years ago)

http://www.thenation.com/blog/179160/cancelcolbert-and-return-anti-liberal-left#comment-1319103232

― Mordy , Friday, 4 April 2014 23:49 (twelve years ago)

omg that comment is so long. just read the following article instead
http://www.thenation.com/blog/179084/whos-afraid-suey-park

― Nhex, Friday, 4 April 2014 23:59 (twelve years ago)

no you need to keep reading. it gets better and better.

― Mordy , Saturday, 5 April 2014 00:00 (twelve years ago)

i'm really baffled how all that anti-semitism got in there

― Nhex, Saturday, 5 April 2014 00:02 (twelve years ago)

jews don't control the comment boxes yet apparently

― j., Saturday, 5 April 2014 00:05 (twelve years ago)

give us time

― Daniel, Esq 2, Saturday, 5 April 2014 00:06 (twelve years ago)

Must be satire xxp

― Simon H., Saturday, 5 April 2014 00:06 (twelve years ago)

burst out laughing when i finished that comment and immediately saw the next one, which for a second looked like it was a response to the comment, not the article:

This is great. Thanks for a injecting a shot of sanity into the debate.

― (The Other) J.D. (J.D.), Saturday, 5 April 2014 00:11 (twelve years ago)

same

― difficult listening hour, Saturday, 5 April 2014 00:12 (twelve years ago)

I like this Suey Park, she's got moxie

― très hip (Treeship), Saturday, 5 April 2014 02:45 (twelve years ago)

arthur chu likes suey park, thinks she's crazy, thinks she makes a good villain for asians suffocating under the weight of their exemplars:

http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2014/04/07/an-ode-to-angry-asians-how-i-learned-to-stop-worrying-and-love-suey-park.html

The problem was that these “good role models” were freaking boring. Being the reliable steady source of clever ideas and technical know-how and good-natured earnestness and inner peace and all that shit—who can relate to that? That wasn’t any kind of hero I could identify with growing up—I was brash, reckless, selfish, unbalanced and my hair was disastrous beyond remediation, and I had no interest in loyally supporting or nurturing other people on their spiritual journeys.

I didn’t want to be Data, I wanted to be Mouth. I didn’t want to be Mr. Miyagi or Master Po, I wanted to be Daniel-san or Kwai Chang Caine, the troubled young men chafing under their wise Asian masters’ infuriating serenity. And except for the one memorable episode where he got to rip off his shirt, wave a sword around and act like a deranged lunatic, I could never come up with a reason why anyone would ever prefer to be the reliable Lt. Sulu rather than the brashly hubristic Captain Kirk.

― j., Monday, 7 April 2014 13:45 (twelve years ago)

good piece. as usual Chu is the best

― Nhex, Monday, 7 April 2014 14:28 (twelve years ago)

brash, reckless, selfish, unbalanced and my hair was disastrous beyond remediation, and I had no interest in loyally supporting or nurturing other people on their spiritual journeys.

great qualities congratulations, very interesting internet article

― lag∞n, Monday, 7 April 2014 14:31 (twelve years ago)

Article feels as much off-tm as it does otm

― 龜, Monday, 7 April 2014 14:41 (twelve years ago)

I'm gonna go to go sleep now go though

― 龜, Monday, 7 April 2014 14:43 (twelve years ago)

so is it then at-tm?

― wat is teh waht (s.clover), Monday, 7 April 2014 14:56 (twelve years ago)

Funny article. I like the reference to "Angrytweets, USA, a community whose sole import is random entertainment news and whose sole export is intoxicating outrage."

― What is wrong with songs? Absolutely nothing. Songs are great. (DL), Monday, 7 April 2014 15:00 (twelve years ago)

Yes more role models should be dicks this is true

― sonic thedgehod (albvivertine), Monday, 7 April 2014 15:06 (twelve years ago)

theres such a shortage of dicks in the world

― lag∞n, Monday, 7 April 2014 15:13 (twelve years ago)

He has a valid point. It reminds me of something I read to the effect that an important step was when black people could be heroes in Hollywood but an even bigger one was when they could be villains, too.

― What is wrong with songs? Absolutely nothing. Songs are great. (DL), Monday, 7 April 2014 15:16 (twelve years ago)

Chu should take over from Letterman.

― Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Monday, 7 April 2014 15:17 (twelve years ago)

Representation in media is an important issue for sure but comparing actual Hollywood actors/actresses to a twitter user does nobody any favors

― 龜, Tuesday, 8 April 2014 00:35 (twelve years ago)

that's racist against twitter users

― wat is teh waht (s.clover), Tuesday, 8 April 2014 01:01 (twelve years ago)

http://gawker.com/cbs-just-announced-that-stephen-colbert-will-replace-da-1561783193

lol good job suey park, you got your wish. colbert show is cancelled.

― Mordy , Thursday, 10 April 2014 16:21 (twelve years ago)

welp, RIP Stephen Colbert the character

― Nhex, Thursday, 10 April 2014 16:22 (twelve years ago)

I think, what, 8-9 years is enough

― images of war violence and historical smoking (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 10 April 2014 16:23 (twelve years ago)

the new character shd be the character stephen colbert playing the character of a liberal l8 nite host

― lag∞n, Thursday, 10 April 2014 17:22 (twelve years ago)

colbert character sucked from day one

― real myst opportunity (sleepingbag), Thursday, 10 April 2014 17:23 (twelve years ago)

u suck from day one

― lag∞n, Thursday, 10 April 2014 17:25 (twelve years ago)

he did p well making a joke of a joke

― images of war violence and historical smoking (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 10 April 2014 17:25 (twelve years ago)

hes funny as hell that guy is very good at what he does show some respect

― lag∞n, Thursday, 10 April 2014 17:28 (twelve years ago)

yeah the character was great but its time has come

― surfbort memes get played out, totally (k3vin k.), Thursday, 10 April 2014 17:28 (twelve years ago)

colbert playing the character of a liberal l8 nite host

this wd give him a lot of freedom, as we dont know what one wd look like.

― images of war violence and historical smoking (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 10 April 2014 17:29 (twelve years ago)

omg u never break character

― lag∞n, Thursday, 10 April 2014 17:30 (twelve years ago)

Dr. Asswipe

― waterbabies (waterface), Thursday, 10 April 2014 17:47 (twelve years ago)

thread title is accurate again

― frogbs, Thursday, 10 April 2014 17:50 (twelve years ago)

Dr. Buttsteak

― waterbabies (waterface), Thursday, 10 April 2014 17:53 (twelve years ago)

Dr. Booger Howser, MD

― waterbabies (waterface), Thursday, 10 April 2014 17:53 (twelve years ago)

#promotecolbert

― I got the glares, the mutterings, the snarls (President Keyes), Thursday, 10 April 2014 18:22 (twelve years ago)

Buttsteak How is this an insult?

― J'ai toujours préféré la folie des passions à la sagesse de (Michael White), Thursday, 10 April 2014 18:31 (twelve years ago)

Think about it

― waterbabies (waterface), Thursday, 10 April 2014 18:40 (twelve years ago)

who is your show supposed to entertain, that's the jillion dollar Q, lepetomane

― images of war violence and historical smoking (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 10 April 2014 18:44 (twelve years ago)

I hope this means Comedy Central is bringing back Battlebots

― polyphonic, Thursday, 10 April 2014 18:44 (twelve years ago)

stewart must be so jelly rn

― lag∞n, Thursday, 10 April 2014 18:47 (twelve years ago)

you don't think stewart could have had the job if he wanted it?

― surfbort memes get played out, totally (k3vin k.), Thursday, 10 April 2014 18:47 (twelve years ago)

yes i dont think

― lag∞n, Thursday, 10 April 2014 18:48 (twelve years ago)

he thought he was getting jimmy kimmels spot iirc

― lag∞n, Thursday, 10 April 2014 18:49 (twelve years ago)

idk isn't stewart more popular and probably less of a risk (since he won't have to completely change character)

― surfbort memes get played out, totally (k3vin k.), Thursday, 10 April 2014 18:50 (twelve years ago)

like a butt made out of teak, a wooden butt, a hard ass.

― take a piece of mr. baxter's hand (how's life), Thursday, 10 April 2014 18:51 (twelve years ago)

i honestly have no idea what Stewart would even want with a trad 60-minute talk show. he did it for a few years in the '90s and clearly is better suited to what he made The Daily Show into.

― some dude, Thursday, 10 April 2014 18:55 (twelve years ago)

jon has to be his first guest tho right

― Clay, Thursday, 10 April 2014 18:57 (twelve years ago)

#sueyparkfor1stguest

― bizarro gazzara, Thursday, 10 April 2014 19:01 (twelve years ago)

I read some speculation that Stewart was considered, but he's tied up pretty tight with Comedy Central, plus wanted to pursue other things (like directing movies). I imagine the job would've been his if he wanted it

― Nhex, Thursday, 10 April 2014 19:26 (twelve years ago)

i honestly have no idea what Stewart would even want with a trad 60-minute talk show. he did it for a few years in the '90s and clearly is better suited to what he made The Daily Show into.

― some dude, Thursday, April 10, 2014 2:55 PM (30 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

um because its the pinnacle of his profession maybe jeez

― lag∞n, Thursday, 10 April 2014 19:27 (twelve years ago)

Also:

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― polyphonic, Thursday, 10 April 2014 19:29 (twelve years ago)

Jon Stewart is already the highest-paid comic at that time slot.

― Johnny Fever, Thursday, 10 April 2014 19:36 (twelve years ago)

He makes more than Letterman? I doubt it.

― polyphonic, Thursday, 10 April 2014 19:36 (twelve years ago)

Stewart leans a lot on schticks like mugging. He can get tedious. Colbert is a funnier, quicker, & better interviewer.

― Bnad, Thursday, 10 April 2014 19:37 (twelve years ago)

Hmm, you are correct, JF! Wow

― polyphonic, Thursday, 10 April 2014 19:37 (twelve years ago)

http://variety.com/2013/tv/news/who-are-the-highest-paid-stars-in-tv-1200585236/

― Johnny Fever, Thursday, 10 April 2014 19:38 (twelve years ago)

Stewart leans a lot on schticks like mugging. He can get tedious. Colbert is a funnier, quicker, & better interviewer.

totally agreed - I'm always amazed by how consistantly quick Colbert is in his interviews.

― frogbs, Thursday, 10 April 2014 19:43 (twelve years ago)

segel was making 225k per episode? jesus

― j., Thursday, 10 April 2014 19:44 (twelve years ago)

Yeah, they had to beg him to come back for the final season of HIMYM

― Nhex, Thursday, 10 April 2014 19:51 (twelve years ago)

i'm more surprised that SCHMIDT made that list somehow

― Nhex, Thursday, 10 April 2014 19:54 (twelve years ago)

jesus, judge judy...being annoying really does pay off in this country.

― scott seward, Thursday, 10 April 2014 19:56 (twelve years ago)

and she only needs one outfit! she's saving money all over the place.

― scott seward, Thursday, 10 April 2014 19:57 (twelve years ago)

wow I had no idea Michael Strahan was hosting a morning talk show

― frogbs, Thursday, 10 April 2014 20:04 (twelve years ago)

dude hes the new regis

― lag∞n, Thursday, 10 April 2014 20:05 (twelve years ago)

wow. if more people knew what judge judy gets paid i think maybe the revolution would finally begin.

― Roberto Spiralli, Thursday, 10 April 2014 20:06 (twelve years ago)

take judge judys money and spend it on fedoras

― lag∞n, Thursday, 10 April 2014 20:07 (twelve years ago)

For a second I was like—the guy from Crank

― That's So (Eazy), Thursday, 10 April 2014 20:09 (twelve years ago)

?

― That's So (Eazy), Thursday, 10 April 2014 20:09 (twelve years ago)

honestly judge judy hosting late night would be a great few months.

― espring (amateurist), Thursday, 10 April 2014 20:14 (twelve years ago)

I wouldn't be surprised to hear that Steve Harvey bags $15m+ a year. Dude is everywhere.

― frogbs, Thursday, 10 April 2014 20:14 (twelve years ago)

honestly this (colbert taking over late night) seems like the best possible thing that could have happened. my only concern is that colbert is so smart, that he might get bored--or it might just not be the best use of his talents--to have him interviewing the latest star/starlet from some superhero franchise. but that's probably to be condescending to him, since he can probably switch into that mode without much trouble.

― espring (amateurist), Thursday, 10 April 2014 20:19 (twelve years ago)

I imagine there's an opportunity for a lot of meta-humor between the shows about "colbert" softening or mainstreaming his image to appeal to a bigger audience.

― ryan, Thursday, 10 April 2014 20:24 (twelve years ago)

meh. instead of retiring the ignoramus right-wing talk show host, colbert should ramp it up. stop mimicking o'reily, start mimicking alex jones.

― Daniel, Esq 2, Thursday, 10 April 2014 20:30 (twelve years ago)

Now the important question: how does Comedy Central fill that gap after The Daily Show? It's had a steady occupant for nearly nine years, but anyone remember how hard they tried before that? Except for Tough Crowd, which lasted a little over a year, it was a minefield of terrible and short-lived ideas.

― Johnny Fever, Thursday, 10 April 2014 20:45 (twelve years ago)

south park re-runs

― surfbort memes get played out, totally (k3vin k.), Thursday, 10 April 2014 20:46 (twelve years ago)

colbert came from the daily show, right? maybe they have someone else who has been groomed for a new role.

― Daniel, Esq 2, Thursday, 10 April 2014 20:46 (twelve years ago)

replace colbert w a diff guy playing the same character imo

― lag∞n, Thursday, 10 April 2014 20:47 (twelve years ago)

just hire alex jones.

― Daniel, Esq 2, Thursday, 10 April 2014 20:47 (twelve years ago)

make him do the entire show hopped-up on jolt-cola and wearing his clown makeup.

― Daniel, Esq 2, Thursday, 10 April 2014 20:48 (twelve years ago)

colbert came from the daily show, right? maybe they have someone else who has been groomed for a new role.

give jessica williams a show imo. or kristen schaal i guess

― hug niceman (psychgawsple), Thursday, 10 April 2014 20:49 (twelve years ago)

i don't feel like anybody in the current tds cast could really carry a show except maybe jessica williams xp ha

― Clay, Thursday, 10 April 2014 20:50 (twelve years ago)

how about half an hour of a white guy pretending to be an asian guy

― Roberto Spiralli, Thursday, 10 April 2014 20:51 (twelve years ago)

kristen schaal!!

― Belgian Flanders Albums Chart (Sufjan Grafton), Thursday, 10 April 2014 20:52 (twelve years ago)

idk there's always a lot of underutilized talent on the daily show cast regardless of whether or not they work w/in the structure of the show. i'm definitely a wyatt cenac fan, al madrigal is pretty funny sometimes, john hodgman is not my fave but a lot of people love him, jason jones seems to have a following, etc

― hug niceman (psychgawsple), Thursday, 10 April 2014 20:55 (twelve years ago)

John Oliver? Oh wait

― Honey-Roasted Cashews (kingfish), Thursday, 10 April 2014 20:57 (twelve years ago)

i mean compared to snl it's a fucking gold mine

― hug niceman (psychgawsple), Thursday, 10 April 2014 20:57 (twelve years ago)

I'd follow Sam Bee to the end of the earth

― polyphonic, Thursday, 10 April 2014 20:57 (twelve years ago)

HOW ABOUT JAY LENO IDK?

― Daniel, Esq 2, Thursday, 10 April 2014 20:57 (twelve years ago)

pretty sure cenac quit to do sitcoms or something like a year and a half ago?

― Clay, Thursday, 10 April 2014 20:59 (twelve years ago)

bring steve carrell back to comedy central

― i also enjoy in line skateing (spazzmatazz), Thursday, 10 April 2014 20:59 (twelve years ago)

pretty sure cenac quit to do sitcoms or something like a year and a half ago?

shit, that's right ha

― hug niceman (psychgawsple), Thursday, 10 April 2014 21:02 (twelve years ago)

Samantha Bee seconded, ideally her and/or Jessica Williams would do an investigative news style thing or something

― Simon H., Thursday, 10 April 2014 21:06 (twelve years ago)

could call it

BEE TV

― j., Thursday, 10 April 2014 21:08 (twelve years ago)

Give it to Sam Bee! Schaal is the least funny anchor on the show.

― ▴▲ ▴TH3CR()$BY$H()W▴▲ ▴ (Adam Bruneau), Thursday, 10 April 2014 21:32 (twelve years ago)

i was pretty stoked about the cbs celebrity chef sitcom pilot bee was working on w/jones. seems to have died years ago though

and yea the daily show is not a good vehicle for schaal but she is great

― hug niceman (psychgawsple), Thursday, 10 April 2014 21:35 (twelve years ago)

> John Oliver? Oh wait

has this started yet? how is it?

why will he have to retire his character? couldn't it just work as a 1hr long colbert report?

― koogs, Thursday, 10 April 2014 21:44 (twelve years ago)

Have Sam B, K Schaal and J Williams do a half hour show called Womyn's Hour.

― J'ai toujours préféré la folie des passions à la sagesse de (Michael White), Thursday, 10 April 2014 21:45 (twelve years ago)

I think Oliver's show starts sometime this month. Not sure what his HBO contract is like, though (I'd imagine it's just for a one-season run to begin with).

― Johnny Fever, Thursday, 10 April 2014 21:47 (twelve years ago)

why will he have to retire his character? couldn't it just work as a 1hr long colbert report?

satirizing right wing blowhards isn't really going to play at 11:30 on a network tv for ten years when jennifer anniston is your first guest

― Clay, Thursday, 10 April 2014 21:55 (twelve years ago)

there is no way he is doing that character on a network tv late night show

― How dare you tarnish the reputation of Turturro's yodel (Shakey Mo Collier), Thursday, 10 April 2014 21:56 (twelve years ago)

he doesn't even play that character when he goes on fallon to do a two minute bit

― Clay, Thursday, 10 April 2014 21:58 (twelve years ago)

colbert came from the daily show, right? maybe they have someone else who has been groomed for a new role.

I feel like Aasif Mandvi's profile was raised by that interview with the racist GOP dude a few months ago

― I got the glares, the mutterings, the snarls (President Keyes), Thursday, 10 April 2014 22:07 (twelve years ago)

I hope this means Comedy Central is bringing back Battlebots

― polyphonic, Thursday, April 10, 2014 2:44 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

― linda cardellini (zachlyon), Friday, 11 April 2014 06:45 (twelve years ago)

why will he have to retire his character? couldn't it just work as a 1hr long colbert report?

Is it because Comedy Central owns the character?

― trishyb, Friday, 11 April 2014 07:39 (twelve years ago)

or because it's The Late Show and not The Colbert Report?

― linda cardellini (zachlyon), Friday, 11 April 2014 07:53 (twelve years ago)

Didn't know there were people who liked Samantha Bee, much less preferred he to Kristen Schaal.

― très hip (Treeship), Friday, 11 April 2014 10:53 (twelve years ago)

so much better than schaal

― gbx, Friday, 11 April 2014 11:10 (twelve years ago)

no doubt.

― take a piece of mr. baxter's hand (how's life), Friday, 11 April 2014 11:20 (twelve years ago)

Schaal is fine, but Bee would do a much better job carrying a show on her own

― I got the glares, the mutterings, the snarls (President Keyes), Friday, 11 April 2014 12:57 (twelve years ago)

bring back Tough Crowd

― frogbs, Friday, 11 April 2014 13:13 (twelve years ago)

Bee is amazing--her Russian thing this week was awesome

― waterbabies (waterface), Friday, 11 April 2014 13:23 (twelve years ago)

Schaal is great too

― waterbabies (waterface), Friday, 11 April 2014 13:23 (twelve years ago)

Kristen Schaal is terrible. I could see Samantha Bee taking over the show, though, and not even losing the core concept—she could be fantastic as a Laura Ingraham-type character.

― Humorist (horse) (誤訳侮辱), Friday, 11 April 2014 13:52 (twelve years ago)

no she's not

― waterbabies (waterface), Friday, 11 April 2014 13:58 (twelve years ago)

you're a terrible horse

― waterbabies (waterface), Friday, 11 April 2014 13:58 (twelve years ago)

you people still find righty wingnut pundits and their act endlessly fascinating huh

― images of war violence and historical smoking (Dr Morbius), Friday, 11 April 2014 14:24 (twelve years ago)

u of all ppl should understand the pleasure of performing an act long after everyone else stops finding it amusing

― Mordy , Friday, 11 April 2014 14:33 (twelve years ago)

"you people"

― I got the glares, the mutterings, the snarls (President Keyes), Friday, 11 April 2014 14:33 (twelve years ago)

Dr. Mobface got SHUT DOWN

― waterbabies (waterface), Friday, 11 April 2014 14:47 (twelve years ago)

I just emailed Colbert asking how we can ban waferface

― images of war violence and historical smoking (Dr Morbius), Friday, 11 April 2014 14:50 (twelve years ago)

I thought you blocked me

― waterbabies (waterface), Friday, 11 April 2014 14:51 (twelve years ago)

you people still find righty wingnut pundits and their act endlessly fascinating huh

― images of war violence and historical smoking (Dr Morbius), Friday, April 11, 2014

end-less-ly , yes.

― Daniel, Esq 2, Friday, 11 April 2014 15:16 (twelve years ago)

http://jezebel.com/stephen-colbert-does-not-envy-the-guy-who-replaces-lett-1562205155

― bi-polar uncle (its OK-he's dead) (Phil D.), Friday, 11 April 2014 15:29 (twelve years ago)

The question is, will the Colbert character be assassinated - martyred! mourned! - in the final episode?

― Josh in Chicago, Friday, 11 April 2014 16:06 (twelve years ago)

he'll step down to run for president

― I got the glares, the mutterings, the snarls (President Keyes), Friday, 11 April 2014 16:14 (twelve years ago)

Samantha Bee would be great, you guys are crazy.

I much prefer Schaal as a Louise Belcher than anything else she's done.

― Van Horn Street, Friday, 11 April 2014 16:19 (twelve years ago)

but she's so great in that!

― Belgian Flanders Albums Chart (Sufjan Grafton), Friday, 11 April 2014 16:41 (twelve years ago)

Bee would rule, and she's played the "Colbert"-esque role to hilarious effect in a bunch of Daily Show segments.

― Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Friday, 11 April 2014 16:47 (twelve years ago)

i would be hyped for a Schaal show if it was built around a satirical POV in line w/ segments like this:
http://thedailyshow.cc.com/videos/j5u5x3/rape-victim-abortion-funding

happy w/ her just being on Bob's Burgers though

― some dude, Friday, 11 April 2014 16:59 (twelve years ago)

something like @Midnight seems more likely; a show that rotates comedians in and out and gets most of its content from the internet

― frogbs, Friday, 11 April 2014 17:20 (twelve years ago)

i dunno, i imagine they'd rather keep that show where it is instead of awkwardly rebranding it as @ElevenThirty and realize that having an hour of Daily Show-ish programming has worked great for a decade and probably will continue to do so as long as they pick the right host.

― some dude, Friday, 11 April 2014 17:22 (twelve years ago)

the John Oliver guest host stint worked so well that i actually wondered last year if it was possible Colbert had already given his notice he was moving to a network and they were grooming Oliver as the successor. CC are probably kicking themselves that the timing had worked out like that and Oliver hadn't already gone to HBO. what they need at 11:30 is something that doesn't feel too much like The Daily Show 2 and having a British host would certainly help.

― some dude, Friday, 11 April 2014 17:24 (twelve years ago)

Samantha Bee won me over with her profane exhaustion during the bit with undecided voters in 2004.

― Honey-Roasted Cashews (kingfish), Friday, 11 April 2014 18:11 (twelve years ago)

Didn't know this: CBS offered John Oliver the 1230 slot and he passed.

http://m.hollywoodreporter.com/entry/view/id/290934

― Honey-Roasted Cashews (kingfish), Friday, 11 April 2014 18:14 (twelve years ago)

i've always liked the Sam Bee/Jason Jones dynamic, might be interesting to have a couple co-host a show

― some dude, Friday, 11 April 2014 18:16 (twelve years ago)

Hmm, might as well start a new thread for that show too

― Honey-Roasted Cashews (kingfish), Friday, 11 April 2014 18:19 (twelve years ago)

And here we are: Hello, buglers! John Oliver has a weekly show, "Last Week Tonight"

― Stephen King's Threaderstarter (kingfish), Friday, 11 April 2014 18:32 (twelve years ago)

the new cavett according to my close personal facebook friend ken tucker:

http://grantland.com/hollywood-prospectus/the-case-for-colbert-hes-just-what-late-night-needs/

― scott seward, Friday, 11 April 2014 18:58 (twelve years ago)

egad, the vintage clips of early '70s Cavett i've looked at in recent years illustrate what a fussy, annoying lightweight he was. Good guests, he added little except the occasional irreverent joke. (Rick Moranis did him to a T on SCTV)

― images of war violence and historical smoking (Dr Morbius), Friday, 11 April 2014 19:08 (twelve years ago)

ie, Colbert is infinitely more imaginative and funny

― images of war violence and historical smoking (Dr Morbius), Friday, 11 April 2014 19:09 (twelve years ago)

i've watched a lot of cavett cuz of the guests, but he's best when the guest or the conflict between guests just takes over (welles, mailer/vidal/flanner) and he doesn't have to think abt how to feed them. his groucho interviews are pretty boring. colbert can be the best interviewer i've ever seen; he was aided a lil by his show's format--it's easier to challenge your guests if the most hostile thing you can do is be a sycophant--but it's mostly just being quick and keen. without the character he won't be able to play as many formal games (and sometimes these were really sublime, or did stranger and more valuable things than just mock right-wing tv; colbert's truth-in-negative-space shtick untangled a lot more ideological knots for me than jon stewart's seriously?face ever did) but he'll prob also eat up less time with his own jokes, and admittedly sometimes the apparatus of the show was just something to clamber over. i also think he radiates beatitude frankly so that may help.

― difficult listening hour, Friday, 11 April 2014 19:31 (twelve years ago)

gilbert gottfried doing groucho on cavett is great

― dylannn, Friday, 11 April 2014 19:36 (twelve years ago)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NYDYyYZw8jw

― dylannn, Friday, 11 April 2014 19:36 (twelve years ago)

Colbert shits all over a sycophantic hack like cavett

― How dare you tarnish the reputation of Turturro's yodel (Shakey Mo Collier), Friday, 11 April 2014 19:36 (twelve years ago)

lol xp. back in my day getting married was like a western.

― difficult listening hour, Friday, 11 April 2014 19:40 (twelve years ago)

cavett was emblematic of middlebrow in good and bad ways. at least he aimed high, with a wealth of interesting guests. his cultural knowledge was just "high" and broad enough to be a step ahead of the bulk of his audience (much like woody allen), but not much more than that. he is clearly intimidated and quiet when someone like godard came on, which doesn't mean that that episode isn't great to much (mostly b/c it's a moment when godard, for whatever reasons, was actually straining to be understood and accepted). it's impossible not to be nostalgic for an era when that kind of stuff could actually be on broadcast television, but cavett was not the great host he is often chalked up to be.

― espring (amateurist), Friday, 11 April 2014 21:30 (twelve years ago)

I prefer Tom Snyder myself, but he's later

― How dare you tarnish the reputation of Turturro's yodel (Shakey Mo Collier), Friday, 11 April 2014 21:36 (twelve years ago)

I meant to write "great to WATCH"

― espring (amateurist), Friday, 11 April 2014 21:59 (twelve years ago)

Of course...

http://www.theglobeandmail.com/life/celebrity-news/the-a-list/why-rush-limbaugh-isnt-very-happy-with-stephen-colberts-new-gig/article17929645/

― Inside Lewellyn Sinclair (cryptosicko), Saturday, 12 April 2014 05:55 (twelve years ago)

I was reading some comments about Colbert taking over, and I was pleasantly struck by a suggestion he get the Skatalites to be his late night band.

― Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 23 April 2014 14:11 (twelve years ago)

the ska band? that would be fantastic.

― Daniel, Esq 2, Wednesday, 23 April 2014 17:09 (twelve years ago)

is a band leader sidekick essential for late night talkshow

― conrad, Wednesday, 23 April 2014 17:50 (twelve years ago)

in 1984 i had a comp lp of the skatalites from like, 1964. arent they pretty old, or is there another band of the same name?

― political correctness reins (Hunt3r), Wednesday, 23 April 2014 17:56 (twelve years ago)

When I saw them play (L.A., summer 1990) they looked really fucking old. These days only two original members are even alive, though.

― Humorist (horse) (誤訳侮辱), Wednesday, 23 April 2014 18:17 (twelve years ago)

they're old. it's too bad, because the idea is very cool (as far-fetched as the idea is).

― Daniel, Esq 2, Wednesday, 23 April 2014 18:18 (twelve years ago)

any ska band would be fun. i'd be fine with the bosstones even

― wat is teh waht (s.clover), Wednesday, 23 April 2014 18:53 (twelve years ago)

They Might Be Giants would be a pretty great house band imo.

― Johnny Fever, Wednesday, 23 April 2014 18:59 (twelve years ago)

for me to poop on

― idontknowanythingabouttechnlolgeez (waterface), Wednesday, 23 April 2014 19:01 (twelve years ago)

xp good call - TMBG already did the Daily Show/Colbert Report themes, right?

― Nhex, Wednesday, 23 April 2014 19:33 (twelve years ago)

The Daily Show is Bob Mould, right? Or did TMBG do an older version?

― djenter the dragon? (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Wednesday, 23 April 2014 19:35 (twelve years ago)

Oh, I didn't realize they only recorded the current version of "Dog On Fire", but didn't write it. And they didn't do Colbert's theme at all, my bad

― Nhex, Wednesday, 23 April 2014 19:40 (twelve years ago)

Dog On Fire was originally Mould, but re-recorded by TMBG at one point. Cheap Trick did Colbert's theme.

― Johnny Fever, Wednesday, 23 April 2014 19:57 (twelve years ago)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xsBsU-9YCbA

― Johnny Fever, Wednesday, 23 April 2014 19:59 (twelve years ago)

TMBG would be a good counterpoint to The Roots on Fallon -- an established cult band that plays in many styles, and learns covers and whips together new compositions for any occasion.

― some dude, Thursday, 24 April 2014 01:12 (twelve years ago)

Being a house band on late night seems like a lot of work / time unless you really like being on TV. Am I wrong?

― ugh (lukas), Thursday, 24 April 2014 01:54 (twelve years ago)

it's a good steady paycheck, national daily exposure to help sell records, probably still less exhausting than touring

― Nhex, Thursday, 24 April 2014 01:58 (twelve years ago)

Also, the Johns already live in NYC.

― Johnny Fever, Thursday, 24 April 2014 02:04 (twelve years ago)

(I tweeted at the band and Colbert both earlier and said they should have a talk. Neither has bothered to respond yet.)

― Johnny Fever, Thursday, 24 April 2014 02:05 (twelve years ago)

also it's an actual day job as in daytime

― anonanon, Thursday, 24 April 2014 02:34 (twelve years ago)

Being a house band on late night seems like a lot of work / time unless you really like being on TV. Am I wrong?

I bet it's not too bad, especially if you love playing. Take Paul Shaffer. He loves to perform on the show, he gets to play alongside musical guests, he plays on the side, backing up people like Ronnie Spector at Lincoln Center, etc. I met him once and asked him about his Late Show keyboard collection, and he sounded like someone that was grateful to have the greatest job in the world. Like any job, I'm sure you could get sick of it.

― ▴▲ ▴TH3CR()$BY$H()W▴▲ ▴ (Adam Bruneau), Thursday, 24 April 2014 04:04 (twelve years ago)

one time i asked steve martin where the bathroom was and he said "over there" but you could tell in his voice he'd made his peace with god and was ready to die

― linda cardellini (zachlyon), Thursday, 24 April 2014 04:13 (twelve years ago)

LOL

― ▴▲ ▴TH3CR()$BY$H()W▴▲ ▴ (Adam Bruneau), Thursday, 24 April 2014 04:19 (twelve years ago)

haha

― Nhex, Thursday, 24 April 2014 05:37 (twelve years ago)

Jesus that killed me

― Walter Galt, Thursday, 24 April 2014 12:11 (twelve years ago)

Band's either gonna be led by Frampton or Bun E. Carlos.

― Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Thursday, 24 April 2014 12:18 (twelve years ago)

when we did the late show one of my favorite things about it (it would have been my very favorite except that Hank Aaron was on that night so y'know MEETING HANK AARON for Christ's sake) was that during soundcheck/runthrough there's no audience present - nor Dave - just the crew and the band including Paul. I look around while I'm playing a lot, and the whole band was watching while we were playing; but Paul was grooving -- listening, nodding, looking around to the drummer and the bassist and the second guitarist and me -- just visibly engaged. rockin' out. when we finished up the whole band applauded. I'm sure they do that for everybody, but it made me feel like a million bucks.

― Now I Am Become Dracula (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Thursday, 24 April 2014 13:05 (twelve years ago)

Dude is the one guy on that show who consistently looks like he's having a good time.

"Time for a commercial break? URGE OVERKILL MOTHERFUCKERS! COME AROUND TO MY WAY OF THINKING HOOOOOO!"

― pplains, Thursday, 24 April 2014 13:18 (twelve years ago)

he also srsly likes the Vegasy shtick and oldtimers

― images of war violence and historical smoking (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 24 April 2014 13:28 (twelve years ago)

Half the time, I'm thinking, "Wow, did not know that song had room for a keyboard solo."

― pplains, Thursday, 24 April 2014 13:33 (twelve years ago)

"Time for a commercial break? URGE OVERKILL MOTHERFUCKERS! COME AROUND TO MY WAY OF THINKING HOOOOOO!"

― pplains, Thursday, April 24, 2014 9:18 AM (Yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

lol

― lag∞n, Friday, 25 April 2014 15:38 (twelve years ago)

two weeks pass...

Larry Wilmore has a new show!

― Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Saturday, 10 May 2014 00:51 (twelve years ago)

excellent choice

― some dude, Saturday, 10 May 2014 01:15 (twelve years ago)

Agreed. Really excited to see what he'll do.

― Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Saturday, 10 May 2014 01:21 (twelve years ago)

I am very excited about this.

― DonkeyTeeth, Saturday, 10 May 2014 05:15 (twelve years ago)

Was hoping this was Wilmore replacing Craig Ferguson.

Full faith it'll be better than " The Chocolate Report" or whatever the hell that was.

― pplains, Saturday, 10 May 2014 05:24 (twelve years ago)

I've read 3 or 4 reports about this already, so I don't remember which one it was that said it will be kind of a panel show format with various contributors and not built around Wilmore alone. That might play better to his strengths, but how else would I know? I've only ever seen him involved in discussions which only briefly showcase him interacting directly with the home viewer through asides. Now I'm just wondering who's going to round out the show's stable of other contributors.

Anyway, A+ move on the network's part.

― Johnny Fever, Saturday, 10 May 2014 05:33 (twelve years ago)

Yeah, I checked the news between sets at Bridgetown Comedy Fest tonight and was debating over starting a new thread or not. This is awesome, and I hope the full show is able to deliver the piercing deadpan snark tone that Larry can do.

― Stephen King's Threaderstarter (kingfish), Saturday, 10 May 2014 08:13 (twelve years ago)

i'm not familiar with wilmore. from the new show's very preliminary description, it sounds like wilmore's going to do his show "in character," like colbert? if that's so, is he going to parody right-wing hosts, like colbert did, or is he going to parody left-wing hosts, like the panel-discussions i see on msnbc so often?

― Daniel, Esq 2, Saturday, 10 May 2014 16:41 (twelve years ago)

http://thedailyshow.cc.com/search?keywords=larry%20wilmore

― Johnny Fever, Saturday, 10 May 2014 18:21 (twelve years ago)

Wilmore is a cool choice. Nice work.

― polyphonic, Saturday, 10 May 2014 19:19 (twelve years ago)

it sounds like wilmore's going to do his show "in character," like colbert? if that's so, is he going to parody right-wing hosts, like colbert did, or is he going to parody left-wing hosts, like the panel-discussions i see on msnbc so often?

He'll probably do the same character he does on the Daily Show (who is kind of left-ish, I guess) but I doubt it will be a straight parody of an existing show the way Colbert's was. I kind of doubt the world is waiting for a nightly Melissa Harris-Perry takedown.

― relentlessly pecking at peace (President Keyes), Saturday, 10 May 2014 19:45 (twelve years ago)

He'll probably do the same character he does on the Daily Show (who is kind of left-ish, I guess)

this is exactly what i was hinting at. the actual leftist in me is a little sad at the idea of a funny comedy central show skewering msnbc-type shows (as bulls--t as they can be).

― Daniel, Esq 2, Saturday, 10 May 2014 20:09 (twelve years ago)

I've never seen any of the MSNBC-type shows, but I have seen Larry, and he is always funny and yes this is a great choice!

― ▴▲ ▴TH3CR()$BY$H()W▴▲ ▴ (Adam Bruneau), Saturday, 10 May 2014 20:12 (twelve years ago)

x-post I don't think his character is a parody of a left-winger.

― relentlessly pecking at peace (President Keyes), Saturday, 10 May 2014 20:13 (twelve years ago)

it's more a parody of "official" black pundits in MSM if anything

i admit that beyond his appearances on the daily show i don't find him very funny. he's likable and charming and his jokes are kind of chuckle-worthy but the satire or political jokes are mostly kind of wimpy and seem to often go out of their way not to offend. but he's had a long productive career--among other things he was co-creator of the bernie mac show, which earns him a lot of cred in my view--and he certainly deserves this. and i hope it's good!

― espring (amateurist), Saturday, 10 May 2014 23:21 (twelve years ago)

i find the MSNBC people as glib and annoying as anyone, but to have a whole show satirizing them would be a mistake b/c they don't have nearly the cultural impact of Fox News and company. not to suggest that this is what willmore will be going for at all, just a kind of side note...

― espring (amateurist), Saturday, 10 May 2014 23:23 (twelve years ago)

also it's harder to pitch a show skewering liberal hosts to a largely progressive audience. i'd guess, for instance, that the colbert report wasn't as wildly successful among conservative viewers as it was with liberal viewers.

― Daniel, Esq 2, Saturday, 10 May 2014 23:28 (twelve years ago)

If somebody wanted to drive a spear through Chris Matthews' heart every night, I'd watch it religiously.

― Johnny Fever, Saturday, 10 May 2014 23:38 (twelve years ago)

i know but it would still make me sad.

― Daniel, Esq 2, Saturday, 10 May 2014 23:39 (twelve years ago)

make sure it's a wooden spear, by the way. if you're gonna do something, gotta do it right.

― Daniel, Esq 2, Saturday, 10 May 2014 23:40 (twelve years ago)

I'd still wake up hearing that demented "HAH!" every morning.

― Slumdog Baseballionaire (GOTT PUNCH II HAWKWINDZ), Saturday, 10 May 2014 23:41 (twelve years ago)

darrell hammond's chris stewart impression on snl was about the extent of what could be done with that

not that lib pundits aren't the worst but there's less humor there and the majority of the TDS/colbert audience doesn't really want to watch a show from an implicit non-lib standpoint

― linda cardellini (zachlyon), Saturday, 10 May 2014 23:54 (twelve years ago)

remember when fox news tried to do a fake lib news show

― linda cardellini (zachlyon), Saturday, 10 May 2014 23:55 (twelve years ago)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_1/2_Hour_News_Hour

it was SO BAD

― linda cardellini (zachlyon), Saturday, 10 May 2014 23:56 (twelve years ago)

not saying that has anything to do with w/e they're doing at comedy central just saying everyone should seek it out and watch it it broke new ground in terrible comedy

― linda cardellini (zachlyon), Saturday, 10 May 2014 23:59 (twelve years ago)

It was THE WORST. Absolute drivel. xp

― Johnny Fever, Saturday, 10 May 2014 23:59 (twelve years ago)

exactly. from the clips johnny fever linked to above, i agree with amateurist. wilmore seems very likable, and ... somewhat funny? maybe i haven't yet seen the best stuff.

― Daniel, Esq 2, Sunday, 11 May 2014 00:00 (twelve years ago)

i loved the Bernie Mac show

― relentlessly pecking at peace (President Keyes), Sunday, 11 May 2014 00:21 (twelve years ago)

yeah, at its best it was pretty great

RIP bernie mac

― espring (amateurist), Sunday, 11 May 2014 00:43 (twelve years ago)

There's absolutely no reason to believe The Minority Report will be an MSNBC satire. That said, I think Wilmore has a Colbert-like ability to inhabit a perspective for the sake of a joke and take it to its logical extreme, I could see a great show being built around his TDS persona.

― some dude, Sunday, 11 May 2014 00:56 (twelve years ago)

the way the press release is worded it doesn't sound like it's going to be colbertish satire in any way

― linda cardellini (zachlyon), Sunday, 11 May 2014 01:03 (twelve years ago)

http://www.npr.org/blogs/codeswitch/2014/05/10/311289167/senior-black-correspondent-named-successor-to-colbert

― 龜, Sunday, 11 May 2014 01:04 (twelve years ago)

Olivia Munn is a major comedy talent?

― Johnny Fever, Sunday, 11 May 2014 02:45 (twelve years ago)

lol yes stewart really nurtured/launched comedienne olivia munn

xp

― linda cardellini (zachlyon), Sunday, 11 May 2014 02:48 (twelve years ago)

not only is she not a major comedy talent she was on like two episodes

― linda cardellini (zachlyon), Sunday, 11 May 2014 02:48 (twelve years ago)

Speaking of people on The Daily Show who I don't like, can the Jordan Klepper era come to an end soon?

― Johnny Fever, Sunday, 11 May 2014 02:51 (twelve years ago)

I do not like Munn in general at all but I'll give her some props for being actually pretty damn good on the otherwise mostly shit Newsroom.

― Simon H., Sunday, 11 May 2014 02:54 (twelve years ago)

my issue isn't with her (i know she got a lot of crap when she did TDS but i watched attack of the show every day for like a year i can't front) i just don't know how you can describe her as a comedian or credit stewart for doing anything w/her or credit her career for being "launched", tho i forgot about the newsroom. is the newsroom a "comedy"?

anyway wilmore is such a good choice for this which seems so obvious now. out of all the daily show alums he seems like the one with the most presence/confidence to carry a nightly show.

― linda cardellini (zachlyon), Sunday, 11 May 2014 03:46 (twelve years ago)

Munn is v good on the Newsroom but part of that is because her character is written as emotionless (i.e. "a man" in Sorkinland) and as such isn't wandering about the set shrieking like all the other women on the show.

― Insane Prince of False Binaries (Gukbe), Sunday, 11 May 2014 04:57 (twelve years ago)

i thought Munn was funny on TDS but people were outraged by her casting on the show before she even appeared so it's not like her tenure, brief as it was, was gonna change anyone's mind.

― some dude, Sunday, 11 May 2014 13:20 (twelve years ago)

Full faith it'll be better than " The Chocolate Report" or whatever the hell that was.

― pplains, Saturday, May 10, 2014 1:24 AM Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

chocolate news was incredible. it had some of my favorite sketches of all time on there, as well as two or three of my all-time favorite gags.

― wat is teh waht (s.clover), Wednesday, 14 May 2014 07:16 (twelve years ago)

yeah, i doubt many people actually saw it. It only ran for 10 episodes.

― relentlessly pecking at peace (President Keyes), Wednesday, 14 May 2014 12:59 (twelve years ago)

Here's what I remember about it:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=03zg6Aph0yw

― pplains, Wednesday, 14 May 2014 13:38 (twelve years ago)

It's funny because he says Freaky Ass Boning Parties a million times in that nerdy voice, I think.

― pplains, Wednesday, 14 May 2014 13:38 (twelve years ago)

six months pass...

10 left?

i hope Grimmy makes another appearance. i like Grimmy and his mimes.

― koogs, Thursday, 4 December 2014 16:10 (eleven years ago)

Amy Sedaris was good last night. Appreciated her sauntering through the Chris Nolan interview.

― Johnny Fever, Thursday, 4 December 2014 16:17 (eleven years ago)

big audience.

― koogs, Tuesday, 9 December 2014 16:56 (eleven years ago)

...uh huh...

soooooo are you trying to get us to talk about the Obama episode last night or...?

― Evan, Tuesday, 9 December 2014 17:48 (eleven years ago)

The trap joke where the audience raised their hands so Stephen could point out how it looked like a fascist rally was good.

― Johnny Fever, Tuesday, 9 December 2014 18:09 (eleven years ago)

> soooooo are you trying to get us to talk about the Obama episode last night or...?

don't really care 8)

the audience and the space made it all sound a bit odd (i watch it at work, so the show is mostly a listening thing for me). not sure obama came out of it well or not. was all a bit stilted. that said, i can't imagine cameron doing anything like this without it being a complete cringe-fest.

― koogs, Tuesday, 9 December 2014 18:25 (eleven years ago)

If you're just listening to it w/o watching, you missed all the jokes in "The Decree".

― Johnny Fever, Tuesday, 9 December 2014 18:30 (eleven years ago)

yeah, that is annoying. i had to keep ctrl-tabbing it to the foreground whenever people laughed during a pause.

― koogs, Tuesday, 9 December 2014 18:32 (eleven years ago)

gonna miss this dude

― conrad, Tuesday, 9 December 2014 19:10 (eleven years ago)

monday: the president of the united states of america
tuesday: james corden

― koogs, Wednesday, 10 December 2014 16:34 (eleven years ago)

I think having the First Puppet on one of the last shows is proof that your days as a satirist are properly at a close.

― things lose meaning over time (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 10 December 2014 16:47 (eleven years ago)

your days as a satirist are properly at a close.

Pretty sure that happened when he and Kissinger laffed it up.

― Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Wednesday, 10 December 2014 16:58 (eleven years ago)

gonna miss this dude

yeah, the colbert character and political focus of this show is what made it great. i have very little interest in colbert on cbs late night, far more excited to see how wilmore's show turns out

― hug niceman (psychgawsple), Wednesday, 10 December 2014 18:14 (eleven years ago)

I don't have a lot of faith in Wilmore to carry a show- he's funny in general but he can't ever seem to smoothly get through a bit with Stewart on The Daily Show.

― Evan, Wednesday, 10 December 2014 18:21 (eleven years ago)

I guess it comes down to whether he's doing a character or not in his show.

― Evan, Wednesday, 10 December 2014 18:22 (eleven years ago)

if yall haven't listened to the WTF with wilmore id recommend it. dude is smart and funny and has been around the block

― gr8080, Wednesday, 10 December 2014 18:31 (eleven years ago)

thanks! I have not.

― Evan, Wednesday, 10 December 2014 18:36 (eleven years ago)

yeah, i have some reservations about wilmore for sure but still excited to see how it comes out. it won't be a one-person pundit thing though, they're said to be parodying a meet the press-style panel discussion so it should be different for many reasons

― hug niceman (psychgawsple), Wednesday, 10 December 2014 18:51 (eleven years ago)

Not sure I'll ever see Colbert's new show--since CBS doesn't seem to like the internet

― ancient texts, things that can't be pre-dated (President Keyes), Wednesday, 10 December 2014 19:04 (eleven years ago)

smaug!

― koogs, Friday, 12 December 2014 14:13 (eleven years ago)

Letterman announced this week that May 20th would be his final show, so Colbert is going to be off of tv until June at the earliest. And some dude said a few weeks ago that his Late Night show might not even premiere until September, so that's quite a break.

― Johnny Fever, Friday, 12 December 2014 14:30 (eleven years ago)

yeah I'm a little confused why Colbert is ending NOW instead of like April or w/e

― Abstinence Hawk (frogbs), Friday, 12 December 2014 14:41 (eleven years ago)

prob because Busboy/Comedy Central had to make their own plans/honor contracts independently of Worldwide Pants/CBS?

― gr8080, Friday, 12 December 2014 14:50 (eleven years ago)

^^

― pplains, Friday, 12 December 2014 14:53 (eleven years ago)

Wilmore's staff started work 12/1

― gr8080, Friday, 12 December 2014 14:53 (eleven years ago)

I remember when Dave went to CBS, how there was a brief period where you could watch the Late Show and then turn over to NBC and watch him on a Late Night repeat.

― pplains, Friday, 12 December 2014 14:54 (eleven years ago)

Yeah, Colbert's deal with CC is only through the end of 2014, so instead of hashing out a new contract he just decided to end the show now.

― Johnny Fever, Friday, 12 December 2014 14:58 (eleven years ago)

takes time to assemble a staff and work out the format and build a set and book guests and...

― Bringing the mosh (Jimmy The Mod Awaits The Return Of His Beloved), Friday, 12 December 2014 14:58 (eleven years ago)

tbh i don't really see a downside. people aren't going to forget Colbert in 9 months, dude deserves to take some nice long vacations with his family.

― some dude, Friday, 12 December 2014 15:39 (eleven years ago)

Oh I agree. I just want him on tv for selfish reasons.

― Mailkhimp (Johnny Fever), Friday, 12 December 2014 17:14 (eleven years ago)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iX6xoYMNJfw

― gr8080, Tuesday, 16 December 2014 18:33 (eleven years ago)

SC also has to train himself not to say "Nation, ..." at the start of each segment

― things lose meaning over time (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 16 December 2014 18:39 (eleven years ago)

http://www.slate.com/blogs/browbeat/2014/12/16/the_colbert_show_ending_49_stars_including_neil_gaiman_sarah_silverman_j.html

Chris Matthews is the most humorless sack of shit I can think of.

Chris Matthews
I wanted to create a “visual”—something distinctive—the first time I was on the show, so I put Steve in a full-Nelson grip—arms under his, then up around his neck. He responded by going ethnic, offering a reward for anyone who could send him a picture of me eating potatoes. It’s a surreal experience watching the first part of the show knowing he’s going to be running across the stage to you. The trick to the show is making your case no matter how idiotic Steve’s response. You have to look into his eyes when he’s in character and not let it throw you. I think he’s one of the really good people in the business. I stop just short of loving the guy. His values come through even as he plays a benighted passenger in the right-wing clown car.

― Johnny Fever, Tuesday, 16 December 2014 20:53 (eleven years ago)

gonna miss this dude

― conrad, Wednesday, 17 December 2014 21:09 (eleven years ago)

I love Larry Wilmore and hope his show gets better writing out of the Comedy Central bunch than The Daily Show has been getting for the past couple of years.

― Vic Perry, Wednesday, 17 December 2014 21:15 (eleven years ago)

Colbert is a really sentimental sort, so I expect tomorrow night's show to have no less than two teary eye moments.

― Johnny Fever, Wednesday, 17 December 2014 21:15 (eleven years ago)

finale's guest is "The Grim Reaper." Prediction: he offs pundit Colbert, pulls off mask to reveal himself as either Letterman or Fidel Castro.

― things lose meaning over time (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 18 December 2014 00:48 (eleven years ago)

you used to credit Dennis Perrin when you quoted his tweets

― christmas with the canks (some dude), Thursday, 18 December 2014 02:55 (eleven years ago)

lol @ yardsale

― koogs, Thursday, 18 December 2014 17:05 (eleven years ago)

I really would've liked one of the Vaxi- products. "Cheating Death" was always my favorite recurring CR bit.

― Johnny Fever, Thursday, 18 December 2014 17:07 (eleven years ago)

yeah cheating death was great, definitely one of the best non-political bits on that show (i also really liked thought for food).

not sure that he can pull this type of stuff off without being under the guise of some type of character though, i don't know how he will balance his "real" / "likable" persona with the ott asshole perspective that has made him funny since strangers with candy

― hug niceman (psychgawsple), Thursday, 18 December 2014 18:37 (eleven years ago)

all people on camera are a character.

― things lose meaning over time (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 18 December 2014 18:39 (eleven years ago)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jbo08GDTR8M

― Johnny Fever, Thursday, 18 December 2014 18:43 (eleven years ago)

It's French, bitch!

― Johnny Fever, Thursday, 18 December 2014 18:44 (eleven years ago)

i would definitely say that most late night hosts wear a mask to some extent or exaggerate facets of their personality. i love Dave and Conan but i definitely get a sense of both of them turning on their host mode when it's show time, even if it's a less overtly upbeat game show host vibe than Leno or whoever.

― christmas with the canks (some dude), Thursday, 18 December 2014 18:55 (eleven years ago)

As they both got older, their mean bitter selves definitely came out more and more

― Nhex, Thursday, 18 December 2014 18:56 (eleven years ago)

like, i'm guessing Colbert on CBS will have the same voice and mannerisms and will continue inhabiting a cliche of a clean cut all-American for comic effect, even if he drops the 'Colbert Nation' O'Reilly-isms and doesn't pretend to run for president or whatever anymore. (xp)

― christmas with the canks (some dude), Thursday, 18 December 2014 18:58 (eleven years ago)

probably the biggest change will be if he manages to do normal conversational chat show interviews with movie actors every night where their entrance gets applause instead of his.

― christmas with the canks (some dude), Thursday, 18 December 2014 19:00 (eleven years ago)

The only extended examples I know of where Colbert isn't playing "Colbert" in an interview setting are with Oprah and Neil deGrasse Tyson. In those cases, he was the interviewee with Oprah and the interviewer with NdGT. I really have no idea how genuinely interested he'll be in talking to celebs every night without the added layer of trying to "nail" them, but real-life Colbert is a really easy talker with someone he's actually interested in spending time with.

― Johnny Fever, Thursday, 18 December 2014 19:03 (eleven years ago)

he seems like a nice guy, which will both help and hurt him in the new role.

― Daniel, Esq 2, Thursday, 18 December 2014 19:04 (eleven years ago)

yeah...it's not like Paul Reubens not being Pee Wee or something where the contrast will be really stark

― christmas with the canks (some dude), Thursday, 18 December 2014 19:24 (eleven years ago)

It might just be really sad to see him do the same fawning style of media worship interviews that Stewart's been doing the whole time. But since he's replacing Letterman, maybe a bit of the disgust will still be there

― Nhex, Thursday, 18 December 2014 19:28 (eleven years ago)

I think any shortcomings of the show will be entirely the fault of the late-night show format/parameters - ie interviewing morons promoting garbage. everything else will probably be fun

― Οὖτις, Thursday, 18 December 2014 19:47 (eleven years ago)

haha, did you ever see Stewart's all-time best interview of Jennifer Love Hewitt? pure spite and sabotage

xp

― things lose meaning over time (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 18 December 2014 19:48 (eleven years ago)

(The problem with doing that regularly is the guest won't return)

― things lose meaning over time (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 18 December 2014 19:48 (eleven years ago)

Do you have a link?

― Evan, Thursday, 18 December 2014 20:10 (eleven years ago)

http://thedailyshow.cc.com/videos/ckiyji/jennifer-love-hewitt

6/10/04

― things lose meaning over time (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 18 December 2014 20:17 (eleven years ago)

Colbert "out of character:
http://www.rookiemag.com/2014/07/ask-a-grown-man-stephen-colbert/

― Οὖτις, Thursday, 18 December 2014 20:48 (eleven years ago)

RIP :(

― monster_xero, Friday, 19 December 2014 05:37 (eleven years ago)

Disappointingly off the rails, this episode. I got happy when I thought there was going to be one final "Cheating Death" segment, but then it went all crazytown.

― Johnny Fever, Friday, 19 December 2014 06:25 (eleven years ago)

Who the f were any of those people

― and I explained the Bechdel Test to her (sleepingbag), Friday, 19 December 2014 07:38 (eleven years ago)

Lots of his favorite guests over the years, and his family.

― Johnny Fever, Friday, 19 December 2014 07:46 (eleven years ago)

Aw come on it was sweet.

― Evan, Friday, 19 December 2014 12:48 (eleven years ago)

i watched the segment where jennifer love hewitt was on jon stewart. he was, indeed, churlish and gratuitously mean. not everyone has a regular gig like him; actors need to work when they can, even successful actors. there's something chris ott-esque about the segment, taking an actress to task (implicitly: he explicitly calls out Bill Murray) for her supposed lack of integrity when he makes a living pandering to his own, more niche audience.

― I dunno. (amateurist), Friday, 19 December 2014 16:55 (eleven years ago)

i guess i also have a problem with people being mean to other people like that, unless the person is henry kissinger or something (=someone who has actually done something horrible and has faced no real consequences for it).

― I dunno. (amateurist), Friday, 19 December 2014 16:55 (eleven years ago)

he's done this for 9 years, I don't think any part of yesterday's show should've resembled the regular broadcast

the list of cameos was pretty amazing
http://www.forbes.com/sites/davidhochman/2014/12/19/list-of-celebrities-who-bid-farewell-to-stephen-colbert/

― Abstinence Hawk (frogbs), Friday, 19 December 2014 16:56 (eleven years ago)

http://gawker.com/why-stephen-colbert-closed-his-final-show-with-holland-1673218182

I don't care about Neutral Milk Hotel very much, but the reason why he chose the song "Holland, 1945" to play over the final closing credits is sweet.

― Johnny Fever, Friday, 19 December 2014 19:38 (eleven years ago)

like, i'm guessing Colbert on CBS will have the same voice and mannerisms and will continue inhabiting a cliche of a clean cut all-American for comic effect, even if he drops the 'Colbert Nation' O'Reilly-isms and doesn't pretend to run for president or whatever anymore. (xp)

Yeah, like the Colbert Report character gets a talk-show gig and discards his superficial politics for superficial charm and smarm.

― something of an astrological coup (tipsy mothra), Friday, 19 December 2014 21:07 (eleven years ago)

So Kissinger was in that all-star singalong? Man, TV satirists love his genocidal ass.

― things lose meaning over time (Dr Morbius), Friday, 19 December 2014 22:16 (eleven years ago)

lolled at seeing Matt Taibbi and Thomas Friedman on the same stage

― ancient texts, things that can't be pre-dated (President Keyes), Saturday, 20 December 2014 01:39 (eleven years ago)

Nothing says "political satire" like putting Henry Kissinger in front of a camera.

― oh no! must be the season of the rich (Aimless), Saturday, 20 December 2014 01:46 (eleven years ago)

yeah the Kissinger thing was Colbert approaching Fallon levels

― ancient texts, things that can't be pre-dated (President Keyes), Saturday, 20 December 2014 01:48 (eleven years ago)

Never bothered with Colbert/Stewart. I'm not their audience. I'll watch on the Tiffany network, surely, though hard to imagine life without Dave.

― Banned on the Run (benbbag), Saturday, 20 December 2014 03:32 (eleven years ago)

not as jarring as kissinger but it was weird seeing stipe look older than barry manilow. of course he also looked on this side of the uncanny valley, but showbiz has its costs.

― chemical aioli (Hunt3r), Saturday, 20 December 2014 04:40 (eleven years ago)

Manilow looks like Rob Lowe in Behind the Candelabra these days.

― Johnny Fever, Saturday, 20 December 2014 04:44 (eleven years ago)

taking SC to task over Kissinger

http://www.salon.com/2014/12/22/stephen_colberts_one_mistake_the_monstrous_henry_kissinger_shouldnt_get_to_laugh_his_sins_away/

― things lose meaning over time (Dr Morbius), Monday, 22 December 2014 21:05 (eleven years ago)

two weeks pass...

it's about this time in the afternoon when i've just finished catching up on the daily show and i go to click on the colbert report and i remember that there is no colbert report.

― koogs, Wednesday, 7 January 2015 16:29 (eleven years ago)

Last night's episode of @midnight was really funny. Maybe watch it?

― Johnny Fever, Wednesday, 7 January 2015 16:46 (eleven years ago)

too american for me, sorry. and as i'm watching stuff i work i tend to listen rather than actually watch.

inside amy poeller i enjoyed though. perhaps a bit too visual. but there's one full episode and 10000000 2 minute long clips...

hopefully john oliver will be back soon (but only 20 minutes per week) and larry wilmore will prove decent.

― koogs, Wednesday, 7 January 2015 18:34 (eleven years ago)

I think Oliver returns in early February. Wilmore starts in less than two weeks.

― Johnny Fever, Wednesday, 7 January 2015 19:30 (eleven years ago)

miss this dude

― conrad, Wednesday, 7 January 2015 20:20 (eleven years ago)

hope he's having a nice holiday

― conrad, Wednesday, 7 January 2015 20:20 (eleven years ago)

inside amy poeller

I wish this show existed. Prefer Amy P.

― franny glasshole (franny glass), Wednesday, 7 January 2015 20:59 (eleven years ago)

Amy Poehler did have a Comedy Central show that very few watched

― ancient texts, things that can't be pre-dated (President Keyes), Thursday, 8 January 2015 03:42 (eleven years ago)

(sidenote: no shade koogs but i idg how @midnight is 'too american' when colbert is like an apple pie driving a monster truck around a baseball diamond)

― difficult-difficult lemon-difficult (VegemiteGrrl), Thursday, 8 January 2015 06:09 (eleven years ago)

haha tru

― Johnny Fever, Thursday, 8 January 2015 06:15 (eleven years ago)

um, hard to explain. was more the format than the content.

the setup i didn't like, the quiz show aspect: 3 comedians (identified by their twitter handles rather than their names) making jokes about kid rock. the baying audience (mostly this). the whole trawling the internet for content thing.

― koogs, Thursday, 8 January 2015 09:54 (eleven years ago)

@midnight is so horrible even though I often like the comedians on it

― $80 is absurd and very ridiculous! (Sufjan Grafton), Thursday, 8 January 2015 15:01 (eleven years ago)

It's basically just the show version of browsing the front page of reddit with comedians, but I find it pretty harmless. For the record the comedians are introduced by their actual name, too.

― Evan, Thursday, 8 January 2015 15:08 (eleven years ago)

it's entertaining and basically has an infinite amount of content. one episode I saw reunited everyone from The State, which was awesome. one had Jay & Silent Bob on it, which was not. I agree the completely arbitrary quiz show format is kinda dumb

― Abstinence Hawk (frogbs), Thursday, 8 January 2015 15:29 (eleven years ago)

basically watch any episode with Ron Funches

― Abstinence Hawk (frogbs), Thursday, 8 January 2015 15:29 (eleven years ago)

agree with sufjan, they have a lot of good guests, but the format is somewhat irredeemable. typical comedy central setup, honestly

― Nhex, Thursday, 8 January 2015 15:29 (eleven years ago)

It's basically just the show version of browsing the front page of reddit with comedians,

i have never watched this show but if forced to guess what it was like this would have been my exact answer

― gr8080, Thursday, 8 January 2015 16:10 (eleven years ago)

For people who don't look at reddit ever, but DO listen to a bunch of these comedians making the rounds on various podcasts, @midnight just seems like an extension of that.

― Johnny Fever, Thursday, 8 January 2015 16:14 (eleven years ago)

that's otm and the reddit thing is fair too except for the implied negative. it is a fun show. the comedy 'quiz' format is p well established in the UK but maybe less familiar to others. i think you learn not to expect too much outside of some chuckles.

― Roberto Spiralli, Thursday, 8 January 2015 16:18 (eleven years ago)

I don't have any problem with it really besides that some episodes can be duds depending on the guests. It's a much better alternative than The Jeselnik Offensive bullshit that I'm sure only existed as an experiment to figure out what makes Tosh.0 popular then do more of that. Which... I guess @midnight also is but in a different way.

― Evan, Thursday, 8 January 2015 16:43 (eleven years ago)

It just bothers me that the comedians give canned answers in a stupid fake talkshow environment that's supposed to look spontaneous. I also don't like that nerdist dude's nerd reference dropping persona.

― $80 is absurd and very ridiculous! (Sufjan Grafton), Thursday, 8 January 2015 17:30 (eleven years ago)

persona is basically Larry the IT Guy

― $80 is absurd and very ridiculous! (Sufjan Grafton), Thursday, 8 January 2015 17:31 (eleven years ago)

tbf Hardwick has been in the nerd game for sometime now

― Nhex, Thursday, 8 January 2015 17:33 (eleven years ago)

I think there's a difference between "canned answers" and pulling jokes from your own repertoire and retrofitting them for the topic at hand. I'm not gonna go to the mat for @midnight—sometimes I don't care if I watch it or if I miss it either—but it's the best show CC has developed for that time of night since Colbert started.

― Johnny Fever, Thursday, 8 January 2015 17:39 (eleven years ago)

yeah "canned answer" is a misnomer, but the design of the show, where prepared jokes are made to seem spontaneous, treats the viewer like he's an idiot.

― $80 is absurd and very ridiculous! (Sufjan Grafton), Thursday, 8 January 2015 17:41 (eleven years ago)

I don't think the jokes are as prepared as you think they are. These men and women are pretty comically nimble by definition.

― Johnny Fever, Thursday, 8 January 2015 17:43 (eleven years ago)

maybe you're right. maybe they do second takes of jokes and that makes them seem prepared to me. I also don't doubt that hardwick is authentically nerd joel mchale. but nerd joel mchale's only method for establishing that he is nerd joel mchale seems to be dropping references to bits of nerdy culture. and that's just an annoying way to behave.

― $80 is absurd and very ridiculous! (Sufjan Grafton), Thursday, 8 January 2015 17:45 (eleven years ago)

Yeah, Hardwick runs an empire called Nerdist, hosts after-shows about Walking Dead, and maybe some other things, but he doesn't really code as "nerd" to me. He's basically the normal guy version of Ryan Seacrest.

― Johnny Fever, Thursday, 8 January 2015 17:50 (eleven years ago)

Wilmore's Nightly Show ads are getting funnier all the time, though. Getting psyched for that show to start.

― Johnny Fever, Thursday, 8 January 2015 17:55 (eleven years ago)

I used to find Hardwick incredibly annoying, but I guess a couple seasons of The Talking Dead have softened him up for me. That said I can still see why his persona would be irritating. Just remember we still live in a world where The Big Bang Theory is the most successful sitcom...

― Nhex, Thursday, 8 January 2015 18:01 (eleven years ago)

yeah...*hangs head down low*

― $80 is absurd and very ridiculous! (Sufjan Grafton), Thursday, 8 January 2015 18:06 (eleven years ago)

Is there any other way to prove yourself a legit nerd in nerdy culture BESIDES dropping references?

― Evan, Thursday, 8 January 2015 20:14 (eleven years ago)

yes, you make something new that nerds like.

― $80 is absurd and very ridiculous! (Sufjan Grafton), Thursday, 8 January 2015 20:44 (eleven years ago)

I understand it's nagl to police who can be a nerd. I don't even identify as a nerd. But if you try to make money by appealing to a 'nerd audience' you should be making something new that speaks to that audience, rather than just making references to that audience's canon. You can drop some references while having a conversation with some nerds and that is fine because you aren't selling them anything.

― $80 is absurd and very ridiculous! (Sufjan Grafton), Thursday, 8 January 2015 20:57 (eleven years ago)

Hardwick's personality is causes a wide range of reactions. I generally dig much of what he does, but his style is so distinctive it can be easily mocked.

I really enjoyed his interview with Andrea Romano, someone I believe never gets enough credit for what she was able to achieve:

http://www.nerdist.com/pepisode/nerdist-podcast-andrea-romano

― Delbert Gravy (kingfish), Thursday, 8 January 2015 20:59 (eleven years ago)

Hardwick is probably pulled by two different sides of nerddom, one being comics/sci-fi and the other one being standup/comedy (the latter has a very devoted, judgmental and intense fanbase as well).

― Johnny Fever, Thursday, 8 January 2015 21:04 (eleven years ago)

xp yeah, Romano is amazing. I should give that a listen.

― Nhex, Thursday, 8 January 2015 21:55 (eleven years ago)

Listening now. It's really really good.

― Johnny Fever, Thursday, 8 January 2015 22:03 (eleven years ago)

Is there any other way to prove yourself a legit nerd in nerdy culture BESIDES dropping references?

Hardwick never seems to know anything about what he's referencing, just that he's learnt references from somewhere and has an idea of when to shout them

― bob seger's silver bullet gland (sic), Thursday, 8 January 2015 23:45 (eleven years ago)

^^^ guy comes off like an idiot to me

― Οὖτις, Thursday, 8 January 2015 23:53 (eleven years ago)

Who doesn't though

― Johnny Fever, Friday, 9 January 2015 00:19 (eleven years ago)

You really don't think he's authentic? I never suspected it was an act.

― Evan, Friday, 9 January 2015 00:51 (eleven years ago)

I guess this kinda explains it all

I knew that I had two choices: I could continue living the way I was living and die pickled and unemployed, or make sweeping changes with the hope of salvaging my life. It occurred to me that I had arrogantly banished all the nerd qualities that defined me as a youth. I distinctly remembered that I once had the ability to focus intensely on many things. Programming computers, winning chess tournaments, playing videogames, collecting action figures, Dungeons & Dragon-ing, ruining the bell curve in Latin class. I needed to reconnect with that past and find a way to harness those nerd powers to turn my life around. They had to be useful for something other than frightening girls away by deconstructing the character of Tron as a Christ figure.

I think I sense this desperation in each reference and that is what puts me off.

― $80 is absurd and very ridiculous! (Sufjan Grafton), Friday, 9 January 2015 01:59 (eleven years ago)

Also, I dig @midnight just for the amazing guest roster of comics & improv-types

― Delbert Gravy (kingfish), Friday, 9 January 2015 03:38 (eleven years ago)

Every episode with Bret Gelman and/or Ron Funches is worth yr time

― difficult-difficult lemon-difficult (VegemiteGrrl), Friday, 9 January 2015 03:43 (eleven years ago)

that's an interesting article by Hardwick, I didn't know any of that about him. can definitely relate too much to it *cries*

― Nhex, Friday, 9 January 2015 04:08 (eleven years ago)

watched the debut of Nightly Show - p good! I approve of the panel/Bill Maher format w/out Bill Maher. Not interested in a nother late night show trotting out people peddling books and bad movies.

― Οὖτις, Thursday, 22 January 2015 21:02 (eleven years ago)

Yeah, Nightly Show will keep getting better, but it started really strong imo. Was surprised the Keep it 100 segment seems to be an every night thing rather than an occasional thing.

― Johnny Fever, Thursday, 22 January 2015 21:47 (eleven years ago)

five months pass...

best-of clips up on the comedy central website

(they are also streaming the whole of the daily show for the next 42 days apparently)

― koogs, Friday, 26 June 2015 15:11 (ten years ago)

one month passes...

last week i went looking for clips. there were a few, sorted by year. - http://www.cc.com/shows/the-colbert-report

today i went looking for clips and there were 9974 sorted by season. that'll do. - http://www.cc.com/shows/the-colbert-report/video-guide

― koogs, Thursday, 20 August 2015 17:17 (ten years ago)

four years pass...

Colbert suggested the other day that the 2 best prog bands are Yes and Steely Dan

I shouldn't get mad about this but I am

― frogbs, Thursday, 23 July 2020 18:05 (five years ago)


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