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You don't have to be from the UK, but it helps to be in this timezone.

So, erm... How are your databases running? Got any new crushes? Been on any good rambles or spotted any lesser spotted tits? (We're talking about birdwatching, you smutty bugger!) Did you catch that documentary on BBC2 last night?

And most importantly... is it time for our COOKIE yet?

Paranoid Spice (kate), Thursday, 20 October 2005 14:41 (twenty years ago)

teehee!

g-kit (g-kit), Thursday, 20 October 2005 14:43 (twenty years ago)

Well, you didn't tell us how your cookie was today!

Paranoid Spice (kate), Thursday, 20 October 2005 14:44 (twenty years ago)

i figured you'd all lost interest or were observant enough to notice that i adore each and every cookie. but um, yah! it was yum.

g-kit (g-kit), Thursday, 20 October 2005 14:45 (twenty years ago)

I'm having such a sleepy afternoon. Cookies would be good but I'm trying not to eat between meals :(

beanz (beanz), Thursday, 20 October 2005 14:47 (twenty years ago)

I just had to have another cup of coffee to get me through the evening.

We all went out for lunch, and now I'm slightly regreting that decision. I should have had booze while I was out. Sigh.

Paranoid Spice (kate), Thursday, 20 October 2005 14:49 (twenty years ago)

Don't mention booze. I'm just recovering from post-b'day hangover.

Matt (Matt), Thursday, 20 October 2005 15:09 (twenty years ago)

Sorry! I had a single pint of beer last night because I thought it would cheer me up. It didn't really. Oops, sorry! Shouldn't have mentioned the booze. It was some kind of award winning ale but it was just kind of boring.

Paranoid Spice (kate), Thursday, 20 October 2005 15:11 (twenty years ago)

Oh, I'll be fine once I've been to the pub.

Beer only works as a cheerer-upper in multiples, award winning or otherwise, surely?

Matt (Matt), Thursday, 20 October 2005 15:14 (twenty years ago)

No, you know when you're just kind of tired and having a bad day and you just want to veg out in front of the telly with dinner? Then a single beer can be very relaxing, especially if it's a nice one.

This was "Gem" by Bath Ales and I was rather disappointed with it. Though it did do the trick of relaxing me. Tonight, I've got Ruddles apple ale and I'm really not sure about that.

Tomorrow I play on drinking Nelson's Victory Ale in celebration of the 200th anniversary of Trafalgar. Hurrah!

Paranoid Spice (kate), Thursday, 20 October 2005 15:17 (twenty years ago)

I had a pint of that last night, I think, it's definitely on in my local.

Matt (Matt), Thursday, 20 October 2005 15:20 (twenty years ago)

You have Nelson's Victory Ale in your local? Can we go there on Saturday? ::slurp::

Paranoid Spice (kate), Thursday, 20 October 2005 15:20 (twenty years ago)

Damn straight. We're not well served for good beery pubs round here, but there are one or two.

Matt (Matt), Thursday, 20 October 2005 15:28 (twenty years ago)

I was disappointed in St Peter's Ruby Red last night. Thought we weren't mentioning booze?

beanz (beanz), Thursday, 20 October 2005 15:34 (twenty years ago)

You're making me terrible thirsty. Mmmm, booze.

(Sorry, Matt.)

Paranoid Spice (kate), Thursday, 20 October 2005 15:35 (twenty years ago)

It's okay, I've just been invited out to do battle in the Windmill's pub quiz this evening, I'm perking right up.

Matt (Matt), Thursday, 20 October 2005 15:37 (twenty years ago)

Go tell Archel on the Brighton thread! She wants to do pubquizzes!

Paranoid Spice (kate), Thursday, 20 October 2005 15:47 (twenty years ago)

Hip hip Horatio Nelson!

Blimey, it's wet today. I got completely soaked just walking from the train station to the bust stop (didn't even try to walk all the way to work).

Not sure how this will impact my planned Brighton trip - if it doesn't clear up, I may not go. Bah. :-(

However, I am now even more enthralled with my tweed jacket. Dammit, those things are weatherproof. My hair and trousers are soaked but the rest of me is bone dry. Guess you'd have to have good cloth in a country where it rains 250 days of the year.

Paranoid Spice (kate), Friday, 21 October 2005 06:46 (twenty years ago)

I got halfway to work then got on the bus. Got in 20 mins early and I've still got soggy socks. I don't think I can get away with wearing a tweed jacket instead of a suit to protect me in future.

beanz (beanz), Friday, 21 October 2005 07:18 (twenty years ago)

Why not?

Ha ha, they've just instituted a dress code at work. (Bah humbug, no jeans on Fridays) So I've started wearing tweed most days.

Paranoid Spice (kate), Friday, 21 October 2005 07:22 (twenty years ago)

Morning!

At least it's Friday.

None of the management are in today in the nice temp's office - so, for once, that part of the building is cheerful and relaxed.

Forest Pines (ForestPines), Friday, 21 October 2005 07:30 (twenty years ago)

It might raise some eyebrows (xpost)

If it stops raining by lunchtime I might head down to Trafalgar Sq to gawp at the tourists gawping at the celebrations.

beanz (beanz), Friday, 21 October 2005 07:32 (twenty years ago)

Hey it's already stopped raining

beanz (beanz), Friday, 21 October 2005 07:32 (twenty years ago)

last night's QI had a section on how tweed used to be tempered(?) using stale urine so when it rained the house of commons would smell of piss. just saying like 8)

my waterproof-looking jacket turns out to be nothing of the sort and i have dark patches on my t-shirt which attest to this. jeans are also very damp. and i forgot to bring my lunch.

koogs (koogs), Friday, 21 October 2005 07:33 (twenty years ago)

Wow, that makes a difference if a department comes alive when management isn't there. Weird, because our department is kind of doing the same thing today. Which is odd, because I get along with the manager in question. But still.

Just made the mistake of trying to enter into a discussion with a troll. Stupid me.

x-post, yay for stopping raining! At last!

Paranoid Spice (kate), Friday, 21 October 2005 07:33 (twenty years ago)

i'm falling asleep.
so, so tired.

g-kit (g-kit), Friday, 21 October 2005 07:34 (twenty years ago)

It's the same in *every* department in this company - everyone is a lot happier and cheerier when they know their managers are out of the building.

Forest Pines (ForestPines), Friday, 21 October 2005 07:36 (twenty years ago)

I am supposed to be writing an essay. Why am I not writing an essay? Why instead have I got sucked into ILX for the day AGAIN, when will I learn?

That being said, I've been thinking about starting a small press, that's constructive, isn't it?

Matt (Matt), Friday, 21 October 2005 07:36 (twenty years ago)

That's a great idea. What will you print?

beanz (beanz), Friday, 21 October 2005 07:42 (twenty years ago)

x-post, ha ha, I like that story about the piss tweed. Mine does smell... well, distinctive, but it's not a piss smell. More a woolly smell. I guess that makes me a woolly liberal.

Small press sounds excellent. Bit of a financial drain, but still. I have a friend who runs a small press and loves it.

Paranoid Spice (kate), Friday, 21 October 2005 07:43 (twenty years ago)

There's quite a lot of good writers around here, and I know from (not entirely bitter) experience that getting published is a lot easier once you've broken through somewhere (big magazines take you more seriously if you've been published in the small ones, publishers take you more seriously if you've got a track record of publication in the bigger ones etc). So something to give writers (poetry, short prose) a bit of a leg-up. I dunno, it's just an idea I've been kicking around INSTEAD OF GETTING ANY ACTUAL OWRK DONE.

Matt (Matt), Friday, 21 October 2005 07:51 (twenty years ago)

But hey, if your work-avoiding procrasturbation technique actually turns into something cool and interesting that can help other writers as well as yourself - well, hey! Why bother doing any work?

Bah, my anger management techniques aren't working today. I'm not even angry, just irritated. Means my mood is changing. Perhaps the depression will break, then.

Paranoid Spice (kate), Friday, 21 October 2005 07:53 (twenty years ago)

I've been thinking of publishing a magazine... needs a lot more thought though. I should also do some of the work I'm supposed to.

beanz (beanz), Friday, 21 October 2005 07:57 (twenty years ago)

Ooh, what sort?

I have no idea how I managed to typo "work". I also resent having to have artificial light on at ten o clock in the bloody morning.

Kate, you are probably correct. But there is a lot riding on this essay so I ought to be cracking on, really. And irritated is way better than angry.

Matt (Matt), Friday, 21 October 2005 08:00 (twenty years ago)

God I don't know... something like a well-produced zine with you know, stuff in it by friends and friends of friends. Features and interviews and artwork. A cross between Smoke, New Statesman, ilx, Bizarre, the New Yorker and McSweeneys.

I definitely need to give that more thought.

beanz (beanz), Friday, 21 October 2005 08:11 (twenty years ago)

Just a smidge, perhaps.

Matt (Matt), Friday, 21 October 2005 08:12 (twenty years ago)

Blimey. That's a tall order.

Paranoid Spice (kate), Friday, 21 October 2005 08:12 (twenty years ago)

Hey if I knew what the hell to do, I'd have done it by now. Problem is, there's so much already published aimed at my (our?) demographic and I don't read much of that, so I suspect there's not much room in the market for it. So I'm going to have to find or create a niche somehow.

beanz (beanz), Friday, 21 October 2005 08:16 (twenty years ago)

Argh, I'm back on Oracle Queries today. Bah. Now I can't remember how to do it.

Paranoid Spice (kate), Friday, 21 October 2005 08:39 (twenty years ago)

I am going to go and see the Corpse Bride in a couple of hours, right now I am waiting, yet again, for the tumble drier to finish.

jel -- (jel), Friday, 21 October 2005 08:45 (twenty years ago)

I've thought for years that it would be a good idea to try producing a writing zine, but I'd have no idea how to distribute it.

Forest Pines (ForestPines), Friday, 21 October 2005 09:04 (twenty years ago)

Booze *sigh*
Is everyone peachy today?

Panther Pink (Pinkpanther), Friday, 21 October 2005 09:08 (twenty years ago)

Awww, sorry, Pink.

I'm in a pretty good mood. Just need to get off ILX, stop being wound up by trolls, and do some work.

Paranoid Spice (kate), Friday, 21 October 2005 09:09 (twenty years ago)

Ahh, is ILX being mean to you huh? Let me at 'em, let me at 'em!

Panther Pink (Pinkpanther), Friday, 21 October 2005 09:12 (twenty years ago)

Strange isn't it? I go to Club Poptimism, talk to people, mix with people and generally have a good time and get pilloried. Others go to Club Poptimism, sit in the corner and threaten to "kick everyone in sight" and get a free pass. So much for the continuing toxic and sad ILx mindset.

Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Friday, 21 October 2005 09:16 (twenty years ago)

Pink, did you check out other B&Bs and hotels and things, or was the Travelodge the cheapest option you found?

(Sorry, I know that was on the other thread)

Paranoid Spice (kate), Friday, 21 October 2005 09:18 (twenty years ago)

Well to be honest, we couldn't find any cheap B&Bs really. That was the cheapest hotel we could find.

Panther Pink (Pinkpanther), Friday, 21 October 2005 09:22 (twenty years ago)

Blimey. And there was me thinking I could just roll up and get a £50 room somewhere.

Paranoid Spice (kate), Friday, 21 October 2005 09:23 (twenty years ago)

Yeah I know!!!

Panther Pink (Pinkpanther), Friday, 21 October 2005 09:28 (twenty years ago)

Ah well, I'm going. Maybe I will just splurge to get a seaside view. God knows I need it.

Paranoid Spice (kate), Friday, 21 October 2005 09:35 (twenty years ago)

I hope the weather's nice for you, it was gorgeous in Brighton last Saturday. I had a fish & chip (well chips at least) lunch on the beach amongst the scary seagulls!

Panther Pink (Pinkpanther), Friday, 21 October 2005 09:44 (twenty years ago)

Wooo! I have taken an hour away from the computer and got some actual proper work done. The back of the essay is broken, and shortly I will begin thinking about lunch.

Matt (Matt), Friday, 21 October 2005 09:46 (twenty years ago)

It's my lunchtime in 15 minutes. I have: sandwiches. As usual. Like I do *every* day.

Forest Pines (ForestPines), Friday, 21 October 2005 09:47 (twenty years ago)

I'd best not go on about how I'm going to nip down to the kitchen and rustle up some tasty seafood cous cous then, eh?

Being a shiftless, jobless layabout does have its good points.

Matt (Matt), Friday, 21 October 2005 09:50 (twenty years ago)

I am going to have a hallumi sammich and a Krispy Kreme. Oh yes.

Perhaps I should look on the interweb for a Brighton Hotel so I can know exactly how much I will be shafted for a seaside view.

What's the big one that they had the Tory conference at? That will be good and opulent.

Paranoid Spice (kate), Friday, 21 October 2005 09:55 (twenty years ago)

Sorry to invade your thread but go to trusty Wikipedia:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brighton_hotel_bombing

The Brighton hotel bombing was the bombing by the Provisional IRA of the Grand Hotel in Brighton in the early morning of October 12, 1984 .

saleXander / sophie (salexander), Friday, 21 October 2005 10:03 (twenty years ago)

Haha, I wasn't going to mention that

Matt (Matt), Friday, 21 October 2005 10:05 (twenty years ago)

Grand Hotel, that will do nicely! Tories know comfort.

::bites nails::

I've just sent TGL another email saying Happy Trafalgar Day and asking him if he's going to Emsk, The Russian's and French Discoette's house party next weekend. We shall see if he responds...

Paranoid Spice (kate), Friday, 21 October 2005 10:06 (twenty years ago)

Good one Kate, I think you were right to send him a mail, oh & do you want to swap lunches?

Panther Pink (Pinkpanther), Friday, 21 October 2005 10:08 (twenty years ago)

i'm still recovering from your dan electro pic. maybe send him that, too. xpost

g-kit (g-kit), Friday, 21 October 2005 10:08 (twenty years ago)

Damn, no rooms available. Must be a conference there, bah. I was looking forward to a ***** stay, even at £140 a night.

x-post HAH!

Paranoid Spice (kate), Friday, 21 October 2005 10:09 (twenty years ago)

Go to the travelodge Kate, the walk to the front is beautiful. You'll walk past this little second hand furniture place which is fantastic!

Panther Pink (Pinkpanther), Friday, 21 October 2005 10:22 (twenty years ago)

Oh & you'll walk under the railway bridge which is great. You can also walk past the pavillion too.

Panther Pink (Pinkpanther), Friday, 21 October 2005 10:25 (twenty years ago)

Well, I've just booked two nights with a sea view at the Royal Albion Hotel. Could not resist the name, it sounded too Blakeian not to. Twice as much as I wanted to pay, but my god, I need a holiday. I just hope I get paid on Monday.

Paranoid Spice (kate), Friday, 21 October 2005 10:25 (twenty years ago)

Arrrggghhh, now I'm getting The Fear about how much this is costing me. It's more expensive than a trip to Paris. What am I thinking? F*cking impulse buys.

Paranoid Spice (kate), Friday, 21 October 2005 10:32 (twenty years ago)

I found Blake's grave the other day. Accidentally wandered into Bunhill Fields - I had no idea. (They don't seem sure where the actual grave is but they have a memorial saying it's 'near this spot'). They've also got Bunyan, Defoe and John Wesley's mum.

You probably knew that already.

xpost

Hey too late now - just enjoy the weekend.

beanz (beanz), Friday, 21 October 2005 10:34 (twenty years ago)

Hi all! I've been recovering from ManFlu, so 1st day back for aaaages. And I just eaten one of my chocolate mudpies that I made yesterday, and my word, they are tasty.

And in answer, no crushes. I went to give a choclate mudpie to the Girl That I've Been Emailing and she seemed awfull grateful.

Come Back Johnny B (Johnney B), Friday, 21 October 2005 10:35 (twenty years ago)

I'd have gone to Paris, but as Beanz says, it's too late now so just enjoy it.

Panther Pink (Pinkpanther), Friday, 21 October 2005 10:35 (twenty years ago)

Oh yes! I love Blake's grave. Have been there several times. Most notably, dragged there after hours by an artist who tried to pull me in the Mother bar. We climbed over the wall to get in and I nearly impaled myself on an iron spike. I still have a pressed rose that I found on his grave from that night. I didn't think he'd mind if I took it.

I do just have to relax and enjoy it, but it's hard when you're worrying about money. Ack. x-post

Paranoid Spice (kate), Friday, 21 October 2005 10:37 (twenty years ago)

Er, does anyone want to give me a mudpie? Like now?

Panther Pink (Pinkpanther), Friday, 21 October 2005 10:37 (twenty years ago)

I mean, I know more people in Brighton than I do in Paris so it will be good on many levels. I am looking forward to the FAP tomorrow and seeing Archel and Mr. Archel and meeting Brighton ILX0rs.

Paranoid Spice (kate), Friday, 21 October 2005 10:37 (twenty years ago)

WELCOME BACK JOHNNEY B!!!

Paranoid Spice (kate), Friday, 21 October 2005 10:38 (twenty years ago)

euphemism of some kind...? xpost

g-kit (g-kit), Friday, 21 October 2005 10:38 (twenty years ago)

hi kate!

And no, it's not a euphemism, but I wish it were . . . .

They're actually the world's teastiest things. All those who tried my chocolate brownies, imagine those, but more chocolaty.

Come Back Johnny B (Johnney B), Friday, 21 October 2005 10:40 (twenty years ago)

tastiest

Come Back Johnny B (Johnney B), Friday, 21 October 2005 10:41 (twenty years ago)

Actually, I've just thought that euphemism through, and ewww, no, I take it back, that sort of thing is not my bag at all.

Come Back Johnny B (Johnney B), Friday, 21 October 2005 10:43 (twenty years ago)

I just want some chocolate brownies/mudpies/cookies or whatever!!

Panther Pink (Pinkpanther), Friday, 21 October 2005 10:45 (twenty years ago)

I want lunch! Colleagues have gone to the restaurant downstairs which only has one veggie item on the menu and it tastes like poo, so I declined.

beanz (beanz), Friday, 21 October 2005 10:47 (twenty years ago)

Ugh, don't you just hate that?

Panther Pink (Pinkpanther), Friday, 21 October 2005 10:55 (twenty years ago)

Blast!!! Not one cash machine is working in this neighbourhood. So I went to Sainsburys and got crappy sandwiches thinking I could get cash there... only to be told you have to spend £5 to get cashback. Bah!

So I have no cash and a rubbish lunch.

However, on the plus side, I have cookies.

Paranoid Spice (kate), Friday, 21 October 2005 10:58 (twenty years ago)

i got to town before realising that i'd taken my wallet out of my jacket when i'd draped it over radiator to dry this morning and said wallet was still on desk.

got 90% of the way back to office before realising that the jangling noise was the change in my pocket - more than enough to buy lunch with.

went back to healthfood shop because it was closest. was, as usual, full of thin, pasty-faced people. houmous and salad sandwiches with a pound off. some of that nice organic liquorice they do, some green and black chocolate. sorted. rest of the shopping can wait.

koogs (koogs), Friday, 21 October 2005 11:09 (twenty years ago)

On the plus side, OK, it does include breakfast, so that's two meals I don't have to buy. And also OHMIGOD I just got a look at the place:

http://www.britanniahotels.com/icms/images_site/images_hotels/300x200_external_day.jpg

And it could not be more central - opposite the pier and just down the street from the Pavillion. I think it may be worth it.

Paranoid Spice (kate), Friday, 21 October 2005 11:11 (twenty years ago)

I think I saw it on Sat!!

Panther Pink (Pinkpanther), Friday, 21 October 2005 11:14 (twenty years ago)

I'm just thinking about something more chocolately than brownies... and coming up with... THE COOKIES I JUST ATE!!!

So much for health food, eh? Tee hee.

Paranoid Spice (kate), Friday, 21 October 2005 11:33 (twenty years ago)

Chocolate Mudpies ARE healthy - eggs, sugar, vanilla, baking powder, chocolate (75% cocoa), walnuts and flour is the full list of ingredients. Bet your cookie has got emulsifiers and all sorts of e numbers in it.

Come Back Johnny B (Johnney B), Friday, 21 October 2005 12:07 (twenty years ago)

Oh god, I'm suddenly getting the fear. I won't need a passport or anything to check into the hotel, will I?

I only ask because they asked D@r@ for one. I didn't even think about it, but I've got next to no proper ID on me, short of the bank card I booked it on.

I mean, I have a US drivers license and a US Green Card if they really want something but I don't know if UK hotels will take anything short of a UK passport.

Paranoid Spice (kate), Friday, 21 October 2005 12:08 (twenty years ago)

I came back to the office to discover someone else has bought doughnuts for doughnut day, yay! (I had expected it would be I who bought them.) Things are Looking Up.

beanz (beanz), Friday, 21 October 2005 12:10 (twenty years ago)

Beanz, how close to my office are you? :)

Markelby (Mark C), Friday, 21 October 2005 12:20 (twenty years ago)

Johnny, please can you send me a mudpie?!

Kate - why on earth would you need a passport to book into a hotel in brighton?

Panther Pink (Pinkpanther), Friday, 21 October 2005 12:22 (twenty years ago)

I don't know. Why on earth would D@r@ need a passport to book into a hotel in London? But she did. I suspect because of my mid-Atlantic accent, which automatically raises suspicion.

Paranoid Spice (kate), Friday, 21 October 2005 12:23 (twenty years ago)

Goodness knows why?!

Panther Pink (Pinkpanther), Friday, 21 October 2005 12:24 (twenty years ago)

The doughnuts have almost all gone by now I'm afraid! I'll alert you next time...

xxpost

I've now got this vision of fleets of couriers criss-crossing London from ilxor to ilxor, carrying doughnuts and cookies and mudpies and brownies

beanz (beanz), Friday, 21 October 2005 12:26 (twenty years ago)

Now how great would that be?!!

Panther Pink (Pinkpanther), Friday, 21 October 2005 12:27 (twenty years ago)

Mmmm, you can't have my cookies. I'm going to have the rest of them now, with my coffee.

It's a twin room - do any (London?) ILX0rs fancy coming down to Brighton for the weekend?

Paranoid Spice (kate), Friday, 21 October 2005 12:31 (twenty years ago)

I've got one mud pie left . . . . . ooops, I've just eaten it.

I'm free this weekend as well. Brighton last weekend was all sunny and lovely, not Octoberish at all. Hope it brightens up for you this weekend, k.

Come Back Johnny B (Johnney B), Friday, 21 October 2005 12:35 (twenty years ago)

I wonder how I'd get a purchase order for cookie couriers signed off

beanz (beanz), Friday, 21 October 2005 12:42 (twenty years ago)

Cookie Couriers. When Emsk gets back from Cheshire, I'll tell her we've come up with a new job for her.

TGL has not replied to the email. I think it's time to give up on this one. "He's Just Not That Into You" etc.

Paranoid Spice (kate), Friday, 21 October 2005 12:44 (twenty years ago)

I've got one mud pie left . . . . . ooops, I've just eaten it.
Whaaa? *cries*

Panther Pink (Pinkpanther), Friday, 21 October 2005 12:47 (twenty years ago)

Or maybe he's away for a few days? Perhaps just concentrate on 19th C naval officers for now, after all

xpost

beanz (beanz), Friday, 21 October 2005 12:49 (twenty years ago)

It's easier for my mental health to just let it go, otherwise I'll obsess.

Maybe I'll meet a Nelson Naval reenactor in Brighton and make mad passionate Regency Luurrrve all weekend.

Paranoid Spice (kate), Friday, 21 October 2005 12:51 (twenty years ago)

I've now got this vision of fleets of couriers criss-crossing London from ilxor to ilxor, carrying doughnuts and cookies and mudpies and brownies

i'll do it!

i have just bought the most GORGEOUS plant for v&c's wedding. they did have a wedding list but it was full of absolute mentalism so i decided to ignore it and do some charity stuff and also give them something alive and beautiful that they can keep forever. it has these tiny incredibly vivid purple berries - which are out at this time of year and will always remind them of their wedding day - and lovely russetty greeny leaves. also apparently they get more and more berries every year so it is symbolic of their ever-growing WUV. now how the fuck do i get it to queens park on a bike?

emsk ( emsk), Friday, 21 October 2005 12:51 (twenty years ago)

If you can't carry a plant on a bike, how are you ever going to carry our COOKIES?!?!?

Paranoid Spice (kate), Friday, 21 October 2005 12:52 (twenty years ago)

cookies stack.

emsk ( emsk), Friday, 21 October 2005 12:56 (twenty years ago)

i am a cookie

g-kit (g-kit), Friday, 21 October 2005 12:57 (twenty years ago)

This weekend, Matthew, I will be... LYDIA BENNETT!!!

Officers! Officers! Red coats! Sideburns!

Paranoid Spice (kate), Friday, 21 October 2005 12:59 (twenty years ago)

Emsk, you'd be a hero if you could also deliver to Cambridge. It really isn't fair that this is restricted to London you know! hmph *crosses arms*
The plant sounds lovely btw. Talking of which, Kate, how's your flaming katy? No euphemism!!

Panther Pink (Pinkpanther), Friday, 21 October 2005 13:08 (twenty years ago)

I've just had my veggie box delivered, what shall I do with the avocado?!

Panther Pink (Pinkpanther), Friday, 21 October 2005 13:09 (twenty years ago)

if there is a bike path from london to cambridge i will gladly deliver but i will have to be paid for the time! (or i could get the train.) avocqdo? squish it up w garlic and lemon and sqlt for guacamole and spread it reqlly thickly on seedy bread with big chunks of cheddar and tomatoes and blaxk pepper. or just cut it in half and tip vinaigrette over it and eat it with a spoon num num. az got a PUMPKIN inours this zeek!

emsk ( emsk), Friday, 21 October 2005 13:13 (twenty years ago)

fucking keyboqrd

emsk ( emsk), Friday, 21 October 2005 13:13 (twenty years ago)

I was wondering what this thread was about. AND NOW I KNOW -- drunken tomfoolery! Busted keyboards!

Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 21 October 2005 13:14 (twenty years ago)

Ned, you're missing the point. The answer is cookies.

beanz (beanz), Friday, 21 October 2005 13:16 (twenty years ago)

BELGIAN keyboards. Not Busted. Mmmmm, Busted.

The Flaming Katy is still lovely, and still flowering. Looks gorgeous in the kitchen window, next to the figtree, balancing the tea rose. :-)

Paranoid Spice (kate), Friday, 21 October 2005 13:16 (twenty years ago)

Drunken tomfool COOKIES then dammit!

Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 21 October 2005 13:17 (twenty years ago)

And British teeth.

Paranoid Spice (kate), Friday, 21 October 2005 13:18 (twenty years ago)

ooh pumpkin, what are you going to do with that?

Panther Pink (Pinkpanther), Friday, 21 October 2005 13:19 (twenty years ago)

With teeth?

Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 21 October 2005 13:19 (twenty years ago)

PUMPKIN CURRY!!! Num num num.

Paranoid Spice (kate), Friday, 21 October 2005 13:19 (twenty years ago)

fucking belgiqn keyboqrd;

xpost I HAVE BEAUTIFUL TEETH

xpost i dunno! only just seen it. bake it? soup it?

emsk ( emsk), Friday, 21 October 2005 13:19 (twenty years ago)

Sautee it.

Belgian keyboards are curious creatures, so I understand Emsk's pain.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 21 October 2005 13:21 (twenty years ago)

ooh pum^pkin curry. tbh probably whqt will happen is i will come bqck from cheshire and the russiqn will have turned it into some horrific demon-faced folk terror thing and our house aill be cursed;

mmm qm about to mqke yummy chqrd tomqto onion pqstq

emsk ( emsk), Friday, 21 October 2005 13:22 (twenty years ago)

I am just waiting for Echo to start posting to ILX and protesting "But ah am not zee Belgian!!!" x-post - you are now SPEAKING Russian, I think.

Just keep The Russian away from creepy dollsheads... oh god, no, that's what she'll do with the pumpkin, won't she?

p.s. Please get Zee Belgian to get her boyfriend to invite his brother. Because he clearly HAAAAAATES me.

Paranoid Spice (kate), Friday, 21 October 2005 13:25 (twenty years ago)

i would make pumpkin curry or pumpkin risotto personally.

Panther Pink (Pinkpanther), Friday, 21 October 2005 13:26 (twenty years ago)

echo aill not post to ilx, i think ze qre sqfe. look i just cqn'tbe qrsed aith the a qnd the a, ok? i cqn deql aith the rest. qnd the w.

DON'T MENTION THE DOLLSHEQD! ae killed the lqst one ahen she aqs not here.

i will not see her til mondqy noz but i will qsk her.

emsk ( emsk), Friday, 21 October 2005 13:28 (twenty years ago)

qnd stop distrqcting me! i qm meqnt to be zriting qn essqy on music journqlists.

emsk ( emsk), Friday, 21 October 2005 13:29 (twenty years ago)

You can talk about how wonderful they are, smelling sweetly of mint and a hint of spice.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 21 October 2005 13:35 (twenty years ago)

...you know, if I didn't know Emsk, I would think that she lived in a semi-magical United Nations from our descriptions of her home life...

Paranoid Spice (kate), Friday, 21 October 2005 13:38 (twenty years ago)

I've just had a nice long chat with the nice temp - all about how she wants to stay single for a very long time, and I am doomed to be single for a very long time myself just because I always come across as being very, very desperate.

Forest Pines (ForestPines), Friday, 21 October 2005 13:38 (twenty years ago)

nqw i am tqlking about the ones with the power, the ones thqt smell of rqnk qpqthy :( we hqve hqd this discussion q bit.

emsk ( emsk), Friday, 21 October 2005 13:39 (twenty years ago)

I hope the W and the R aren't also swapped over

beanz (beanz), Friday, 21 October 2005 13:42 (twenty years ago)

x-post -- Ah yes them. The solution is obvious -- boiling in oil, with a garnish of hot sauce in open wounds in order to increase the discomfort.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 21 October 2005 13:42 (twenty years ago)

FP you aren't doomed to being single, you just are unlikely to go out with this person in the immediate future

beanz (beanz), Friday, 21 October 2005 13:44 (twenty years ago)

Is that something to do with journos, or a recipe for the pumpkin?

"Desperation isn't pretty, these pleading eyes don't become me"

I worry sometimes that I come across as desperate. Which is ironic, as I don't actually think of myself as that desperate. If I were desperate, I'd settle (and probably end up with some cunt who thinks I'm revolting because I only brush my teeth once a day and chew gum all day long but is scared of being alone).

Paranoid Spice (kate), Friday, 21 October 2005 13:45 (twenty years ago)

I'm unlikely to go out with anyone in the immediate future. Or in the rest of the future either.

Forest Pines (ForestPines), Friday, 21 October 2005 13:46 (twenty years ago)

There's a difference between being coming over as desperate and enthusiastically embracing opportunities. We'll all be dead a long time, so I reckon if you fancy someone you have to make some effort to chat them up. If you get rebuffed, well these things happen.

beanz (beanz), Friday, 21 October 2005 13:48 (twenty years ago)

Yes, but for that you actually have to *meet* people. Which, not having any sort of social life, I can never do.

Forest Pines (ForestPines), Friday, 21 October 2005 13:50 (twenty years ago)

Welcome to reality. No spitting, please.

Maybe you should work on trying to make your own life a little better/more interesting to you?

I'm trying really hard not to be flippant. It sucks to be lonely, but it's not the end of the world.

x-post

Paranoid Spice (kate), Friday, 21 October 2005 13:50 (twenty years ago)

I mean, honestly - it could be worse. You could have creepy stalker freaks starting whole threads about you every time you make a joke about not getting laid in a while!

Paranoid Spice (kate), Friday, 21 October 2005 13:50 (twenty years ago)

I wish I had a stalker.

Absolutly true about the asking. I've been rebuffed enough times to know this is true :(

I've got an amazing pumpkin soup recipe in one of my cookbooks I was browsing last night. I might have to get that out of the housewarming party.

Come Back Johnny B (Johnney B), Friday, 21 October 2005 13:55 (twenty years ago)

I've been working on trying to make life more interesting for years, Kate, but I've never managed to do it. I do not know anybody, apart from people I see at work, who live within 100 miles of me. Because of this I have no social life, and because of that there are no opportunities, anywhere, to meet anybody who might be interested in me.

(I am glad that I don't have my own JW trying to troll me all the time, though)

(xpost)

Forest Pines (ForestPines), Friday, 21 October 2005 13:57 (twenty years ago)

OK, well, if you've accepted that, good. You can just get on with your solitary life, then

OMIGOD!!! ONE OF MY COLLEAGUES HAS TWINKIES!!!

Paranoid Spice (kate), Friday, 21 October 2005 13:59 (twenty years ago)

Well, I don't see any point in *having* a solitary life.

Forest Pines (ForestPines), Friday, 21 October 2005 14:00 (twenty years ago)

(the only thing that makes life worthwhile is being able to make special people smile occasionally)

Forest Pines (ForestPines), Friday, 21 October 2005 14:03 (twenty years ago)

Not untrue, that. But you need to make yourself smile as well, etc. And listen to good records and etc.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 21 October 2005 14:05 (twenty years ago)

FP, have you thought about moving to where some of your friends live if you don't want to continue with this "solitary life" as you put it.

What are twinkies? I've only ever heard about them in US sitcoms!

Panther Pink (Pinkpanther), Friday, 21 October 2005 14:05 (twenty years ago)

They are truly vile things... in fact, I kind of wish I hadn't eaten one as I feel slightly sick now.

They're kind of inflated puff-stuff (they're not even baked goods, they really are puffed up like polystyrine) with fake cream inside.

Paranoid Spice (kate), Friday, 21 October 2005 14:06 (twenty years ago)

And they are of course delicious. And horrible.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 21 October 2005 14:06 (twenty years ago)

Deep-fried Twinkies = the zen of food death. Looking at it causes palpitations.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 21 October 2005 14:07 (twenty years ago)

They don't really deep fry twinkies, do they?

Paranoid Spice (kate), Friday, 21 October 2005 14:07 (twenty years ago)

Some do, apparently.

The Satanic mascot:

http://darksky54.blogsome.com/images/twinkie.JPG

Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 21 October 2005 14:08 (twenty years ago)

Hmm, I think I'll give them a miss. I would however, like a vanilla custard donut!

Panther Pink (Pinkpanther), Friday, 21 October 2005 14:08 (twenty years ago)

Twinkies, the road to heaven:

http://photos1.blogger.com/img/19/1262/1024/twinkies.jpg

Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 21 October 2005 14:08 (twenty years ago)

I just had some chocolate cake a friend made for me. It wasn't half bad. I have decided to slack off for the rest of the day.

Matt (Matt), Friday, 21 October 2005 14:10 (twenty years ago)

I really am feeling strangely sugar shocked after that twinkie. Or perhaps I'm just feeling creeped out in general.

Maybe I need more coffee.

Paranoid Spice (kate), Friday, 21 October 2005 14:11 (twenty years ago)

FP, have you thought about moving to where some of your friends live if you don't want to continue with this "solitary life" as you put it.

Yes, but I'm worried that:

a) I'm incapable of living on my own, looking after myself, etc - last time I did it I ended up with huge debts hanging over my head, which are still a worry, in case the people I owe it to ever find out where I live now
b) I'd end up just living near my friends but still not seeing any of them, so feel just as crap as before.

Forest Pines (ForestPines), Friday, 21 October 2005 14:12 (twenty years ago)

Living on your own is a skill that everyone has to learn. Some people are more sensible with others, but it is something you learn, though experience or otherwise.

How do you think that having a partner is going to change that? Or do you expect your partner to just pick up the job of looking after you where your parents left off? Because that's just unrealistic.

Paranoid Spice (kate), Friday, 21 October 2005 14:13 (twenty years ago)

Would that be worse than now? And are you catastrophising? i.e. is that the likely outcome or just the worst case scenario?

I suspect you're more resilient ad self reliant than you say.

xpost

beanz (beanz), Friday, 21 October 2005 14:15 (twenty years ago)

Kate is OTM in her last point there. I think it's a choice of do something about it or don't. I know that sounds harsh, but there really are no other options.

Panther Pink (Pinkpanther), Friday, 21 October 2005 14:16 (twenty years ago)

I was actually in a good mood before this.

Now I'm just thinking... What have I, what have I, what have I done to deserve this?

Paranoid Spice (kate), Friday, 21 October 2005 14:25 (twenty years ago)

A partner would at least kick my arse when I need it, and comfort me when I don't.

Frankly, I'm *not* competant for everyday life. I can't cope with working *and* feeding myself *and* looking after the house *and* paying all the bills. I certainly can't cope with having to talk to other people, and all the work that any sort of relationship involves. I'm missing all the parts that let other people, say, hold conversations without endless misunderstanding; or let people spot each other's body language, or notice when they're being hugely insulting.

xpost: to deserve what? to deserve getting Pet Shop Boys songs stuck in your head? ;-)

Forest Pines (ForestPines), Friday, 21 October 2005 14:29 (twenty years ago)

ILE's descending into one of its sporadic bouts of virulent and pointless unpleasantness. I think it's best I turn the computer off. I hope you all have a very pleasant weekend.

Matt (Matt), Friday, 21 October 2005 14:31 (twenty years ago)

gee, i go afk for like an hour and all the chat comes flooding out. damn you all!

g-kit (g-kit), Friday, 21 October 2005 14:34 (twenty years ago)

i couldn't agree more Matt, have a good weekend everyall, well the ones that deserve it anyway. enjoy Brighton Kate, hope it don't rain!

Ste (Fuzzy), Friday, 21 October 2005 14:34 (twenty years ago)

FP, I'm in a bad mood now, but I'm on the verge of kicking your ass right now. The rest of us have to get on with living our lives and taking care of ourselves, and so do you. Deal with it.

I'm just thinking about getting down to Brighton and sitting by the sea and then all this will be a million miles away.

Paranoid Spice (kate), Friday, 21 October 2005 14:34 (twenty years ago)

Dammit, Poxy Fule swallowed a post.

I'm getting unreasonable requests from horrible clients. 3 different specs for download setups, and I've fulfilled every one - only to be told they've changed their mind.

I've just refused point blank to do any more.

Paranoid Spice (kate), Friday, 21 October 2005 14:55 (twenty years ago)

Half an hour till Brighton...

Or, well, rather, half an hour till sitting on a train bound for Brighton. God, I hope this hotel is a f*cking fabulous as it looks on the website.

Paranoid Spice (kate), Friday, 21 October 2005 15:05 (twenty years ago)

Have fun in Brighton Kate!

Panther Pink (Pinkpanther), Friday, 21 October 2005 15:11 (twenty years ago)

have a good weekend everyone

beanz (beanz), Friday, 21 October 2005 15:14 (twenty years ago)

You too, guys! Fifteen minutes to go!

Paranoid Spice (kate), Friday, 21 October 2005 15:15 (twenty years ago)

B minus four minutes... oh, sod it. I'm going to take three minutes shutting down my 'puter and cleaning my desk.

TGL just wrote back. Tone of email = very formal. No expectations here.

But still. BRIGHTON, here I come! Hurrah!

Paranoid Spice (kate), Friday, 21 October 2005 15:28 (twenty years ago)

Still kinda hoping to make it to the Hamburgery, but basically only to see you, Kate! A-M's kindly put me on the guestlist but I'll only be able to go if I can convince Guy McK to come too. Which I fear is unlikely.

angle of d... (tingo), Friday, 21 October 2005 16:34 (twenty years ago)

OK, I'm back now. :-(

I heart Brighton, why did I come back to London? The stink of the Thames as we stepped off the train (and found that our train back to Brixton wasn't running) vs. the lovely smell of the sea. Being woken by seagulls. Ah the view, the view, the sea view.

The Pavillion (I am in love with the Pavillion). The pier. The lovely pubs and the lovely Brighton bunch.

Paranoid Spice (kate), Monday, 24 October 2005 06:52 (twenty years ago)

Glad you enjoyed yourself in Brighton. The beach is really odd - the old burned-out pier is really spooky, and there's loads of old abandoned pavilions that nobody's touched for twenty years that just hang over the place. If only I could take pics I'd be right down there. Saying that, I really don't like the sea, it's too full of bad memories. EVerytone else seems to like it tho. Did you find yourself sleeping better after all the sea air?

Me, I'm all too sleepy from going to see Brakes last night - ug! I should stop eating a chinese on the way back from the Zodiac, it never agrees with me. I had a dicky tummy all night, and I now feel rubbish. Am eating a coronation chicken sandwich to try and make me feel better. AT the moment, no dice.

Come Back Johnny B (Johnney B), Monday, 24 October 2005 07:11 (twenty years ago)

pavilion

RJG (RJG), Monday, 24 October 2005 07:14 (twenty years ago)

Awww, I'm sorry you don't like the sea, JB. I love the sea. The burned out pier is quite sad - I can remember when it was still just about structurally sound enough to take architectural walking tours on it. Though I never did, and now I never will. It's slightly creepy the way just the tarot booth remains unburned. Ooooh, spooky.

My hotel was just the right combination of lovely and posh (huge Regency ceilings and astonishing sea views) with faded seaside glamour. There is nothing quite like watching the waves breaking on the shore, especially the sound it makes as it seethes back across the pebbles. I could have listened to that for hours.

I didn't sleep well at all - too bloody noisy! But ah well. And I also had a slight dose of food poisoning yesterday morning so I missed breakfast and going back to the Pavillion. Bah.

x-post, pedantery is so hott.

Paranoid Spice (kate), Monday, 24 October 2005 07:17 (twenty years ago)

I bought this print of the music room. I like to imagine that one of the Captains is Captain Anderson:

http://www.royalcollection.org.uk/egallery/images/collection_large/1150260_ap.jpg

Paranoid Spice (kate), Monday, 24 October 2005 07:19 (twenty years ago)

Good morning

Glad Brighton was good. I was at work most of the weekend (sniff). Did see Ducktastic! on Saturday night though. Better than I expected but not as funny as the cast thought it was. But cool magic tricks! All the standards like shooting someone out of a cannon, cutting someone in half, people disappearing and reappearing plus – Live Duck! Almost as good as Paul Daniels.

beanz (beanz), Monday, 24 October 2005 07:20 (twenty years ago)

What is Ducktastic? I am confused. Is it about magic? I've discovered that one of the Novelists is taking up hypnotism. I'm slightly worried about that.

I want to take up Morris Dancing after the dance-off on the seafront. They were bloody good! Plus, one of them gave all the ladies flowers. I wore it in my buttonhole the rest of the weekend.

Paranoid Spice (kate), Monday, 24 October 2005 07:24 (twenty years ago)

Morris dancing is surely a step too far. You know this.

beanz (beanz), Monday, 24 October 2005 07:34 (twenty years ago)

Several steps too far, in fact.

xpost: I've never heard of Ducktastic, but magic + ducks = has to be worth a dollar.

Come Back Johnny B (Johnney B), Monday, 24 October 2005 07:35 (twenty years ago)

No, it really was amazing! Archel and I were admiring their outfits - and their proper dancing clogs. We wanted the ones with hula hoops to dance-off against the one with sticks to bang together. It would have been better if they'd done it hip-hop stylee and gone toe to toe but it was all very organised and one troop would dance and then the other, instead of busting moves in each others' faces.

Paranoid Spice (kate), Monday, 24 October 2005 07:36 (twenty years ago)

Ducktastic's a "play" about a magician who has a magic duck. It's just an excuse for bad jokes and some conjuring. The jokes are not so bad they're good, they're the bit that let it down. But on the whole I rate it one and a half Thumbs Up.

beanz (beanz), Monday, 24 October 2005 07:37 (twenty years ago)

Hula hoops?

beanz (beanz), Monday, 24 October 2005 07:38 (twenty years ago)

ah the sound of the sea shore, one of the main reasons i used to shore fish at night.

Ste (Fuzzy), Monday, 24 October 2005 07:38 (twenty years ago)

don't know about a connection to glasgow specifically but there were a lot of scots in his fleet, I think

a quick google says "1,154 men born in Scotland served at Trafalgar"

there's a nelson monument on calton hill, in edinburgh, too

RJG (RJG), Monday, 24 October 2005 07:39 (twenty years ago)

no

RJG (RJG), Monday, 24 October 2005 07:40 (twenty years ago)

Morriz dancerz in da hood.

Come Back Johnny B (Johnney B), Monday, 24 October 2005 07:42 (twenty years ago)

Hula hoops! Well, they were sort of broken arcs of hula hoops, as they didn't go quite the way around, and had handles on either end. But they were ringed with flowers and ribbons and probably had all kinds of pagan symbolism. I cannot find any photos of the hula hoops on the web. But lots of Morris Dancers, and many of them are female, to boot.

Ah, so the memorial was to Scots sailors who served at Trafalgar, rather than Nelson specifically.

Paranoid Spice (kate), Monday, 24 October 2005 07:44 (twenty years ago)

Ah ha! "Morris Dancing Hoop" returns one result, while "Morris Dancer Hoop" didn't return anything. Here are the hoop things. Though the Chester Morris Dancers (or so it said on their big bass drum) had more flowers on theirs.

http://www.burton-on-the-wolds.org.uk/graphics/burton/greyh/morris/smladyhoop.jpg

Paranoid Spice (kate), Monday, 24 October 2005 07:45 (twenty years ago)

no

RJG (RJG), Monday, 24 October 2005 07:48 (twenty years ago)

no what?

g-kit (g-kit), Monday, 24 October 2005 07:54 (twenty years ago)

no, the memorial was not to scots sailors who served at trafalgar, rather than nelson specifically

RJG (RJG), Monday, 24 October 2005 07:56 (twenty years ago)

So it was to Nelson specifically, even though he was not Scottish and no connection to Glasgow, rather than the 1000-odd sailors who were Scottish and presumably did have connections to Glasgow.

19th Century monument making has no rhyme or reason.

Paranoid Spice (kate), Monday, 24 October 2005 07:59 (twenty years ago)

Pointless trivia I learned watching TV last night: the very first monument to Nelson after his death was raised at Taynuilt, in the West Highlands.

Forest Pines (ForestPines), Monday, 24 October 2005 08:08 (twenty years ago)

nelson's victories

RJG (RJG), Monday, 24 October 2005 08:09 (twenty years ago)

ed was talking about starting a morris troupe at the calthorpe arms the other week. something to do with his camping gang. then someone suggested Morrissey Dancers and it went downhill from there.

koogs (koogs), Monday, 24 October 2005 08:15 (twenty years ago)

Glad you had such a nice time in Brighton Kate. I had such a great time when I went there last w/e!

Panther Pink (Pinkpanther), Monday, 24 October 2005 08:20 (twenty years ago)

Morning everyone, I trust your w/e's were fruitful!

Panther Pink (Pinkpanther), Monday, 24 October 2005 08:20 (twenty years ago)

not really. pretty boring, all things considered. but i got paid! which i wasn't expecting until next week. so, that was nice.
jaggy is currently being looked after, tweaked and fiddled with by a guitar tech.
no other news.

g-kit (g-kit), Monday, 24 October 2005 08:22 (twenty years ago)

cookie time.

g-kit (g-kit), Monday, 24 October 2005 08:29 (twenty years ago)

I'm too hungover for cookies. I've just had an apple - the vit c seems to be doing the trick.

Come Back Johnny B (Johnney B), Monday, 24 October 2005 08:30 (twenty years ago)

I am not hungover at all! :-)

Panther Pink (Pinkpanther), Monday, 24 October 2005 08:33 (twenty years ago)

Ah, yes! Ed's camping Morris Dancers, smacking each other with tentpegs.

How are you, Pink? What did you two get up to at the weekend?

I fell asleep halfway through the Girls and Boys BBC pop and sex special (my god, I had forgotten how beautiful Brian Jones was during the 60s) so I am well refreshed.

Paranoid Spice (kate), Monday, 24 October 2005 08:38 (twenty years ago)

I am peachy thanks Kate! :-) We were supposed to come to London on Saturday so I could pick up my new trainers but I felt a bit sickly so I couldn't go & now I have to wait for them to be posted. :-(

Panther Pink (Pinkpanther), Monday, 24 October 2005 08:44 (twenty years ago)

you're not a londoner, Pink?

g-kit (g-kit), Monday, 24 October 2005 08:44 (twenty years ago)

Nope! I live in Cambridge my dear.

Panther Pink (Pinkpanther), Monday, 24 October 2005 08:51 (twenty years ago)

Ah well - at least soon you will have MAIL JOY!!! when the trainers come in the post. Are these the ones that you designed yourself?

I've just been off in the archives reading old posts about celibacy, of all things. Inspired by a strange interview with Tracey Emin in the Independent this weekend. (Ah well, my hotel had them for free and I couldn't be bothered to go out and look for a newsagent to find a Guardian.) Where she said that she had been much happier, since she'd been celibate for about 4 years.

Paranoid Spice (kate), Monday, 24 October 2005 08:52 (twenty years ago)

i have done almost nothing this weekend. i watched Sin City for the first time on saturday, I was impressed.
My flock of seagulls tickets arrived on saturday too, a month early, and i nearly didn't bother to go and pick them up not knowing what they were and all.

work is very quiet today. there was a meeting last week and talk of 'outsourcing for us all' has caused such a stir. but it's all been over blown and exaggerated, oh-what-a-surprise.

Ste (Fuzzy), Monday, 24 October 2005 08:52 (twenty years ago)

oh, i never knew that, my dear.
we haven't had shoe pictures for aaaages. i wanna see your self-designed pumps, Pinx0r!
i'm wearing my B&W Vans today.

lots of xposts

g-kit (g-kit), Monday, 24 October 2005 08:54 (twenty years ago)

Designing your own pumps? Fantastic!

I've designed my own Mornington Crescent mug at cafepress, although I haven't ordered it yet. It looks immense tho.

Come Back Johnny B (Johnney B), Monday, 24 October 2005 09:02 (twenty years ago)

Yes they are Kate, they should be here at some point this week fingers crossed. i will post pictures as soon as I get them.
I like those Vans G, I just never got a pair myself. I'm waring very reserved shoes for me today...

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v510/Pinxor/Trainers/Sarah13-10-05.jpg
Here's some other I wore over the w/e
ihttp://img.photobucket.com/albums/v510/Pinxor/Trainers/Sarah20-10-051.jpg
ihttp://img.photobucket.com/albums/v510/Pinxor/Trainers/Sarah221-10-05.jpg

Panther Pink (Pinkpanther), Monday, 24 October 2005 09:04 (twenty years ago)

Actually, I'm not wearing those today at all! *rollseyes*

Panther Pink (Pinkpanther), Monday, 24 October 2005 09:07 (twenty years ago)

Ooh, I like those green ones.

Paranoid Spice (kate), Monday, 24 October 2005 09:09 (twenty years ago)

I have a general mistrust of trainers. I've got a pair I wear when I'm running, but I'm reallyt not keen on wearing trainers when I'm not actually doing, you know, anything athletic.

Come Back Johnny B (Johnney B), Monday, 24 October 2005 09:49 (twenty years ago)

Er, I don't really know what to say to that. Perhaps some trainers stood you up on a date or something? ;-)

Panther Pink (Pinkpanther), Monday, 24 October 2005 09:50 (twenty years ago)

hehe, pwned.

g-kit (g-kit), Monday, 24 October 2005 09:50 (twenty years ago)

These old wounds don't heal.

Come Back Johnny B (Johnney B), Monday, 24 October 2005 09:53 (twenty years ago)

haha, STOOD UP. shoes. stood up. puntastic.

g-kit (g-kit), Monday, 24 October 2005 09:56 (twenty years ago)

*bows* thank you, thank you!
Johnny seriously, I feel liked you've stabbed me in the heart what's wrong with trainers huh?

Panther Pink (Pinkpanther), Monday, 24 October 2005 10:00 (twenty years ago)

I really like the second pair of trainers, there, Pink - though the first pair reminded me of a particular Belle and Sebastian lyric:

She made herself a pair of orthopaedic shoes
She thought it was the answer to the fashion blues
She mad herself a pair of orthopaedic shoes
But she walked with a limp

Please take this post in the affectionate way it was intended :)

Markelby (Mark C), Monday, 24 October 2005 10:05 (twenty years ago)

Hmmm! ;-) The orange ones I take it you mean? The huaraches. They are not to everyone's taste & if I make you think of a B&S lyric then it's all good! :-)

Panther Pink (Pinkpanther), Monday, 24 October 2005 10:07 (twenty years ago)

I dunno . . . I guess they seem a little obviously under-dressed, and not in a good way. Maybe "slovenly" is the word I'm after. Don't get me wrong, I'm sure you're one of the rare people that pull them off okay, but I'm so uncomfortable wearing them. I always imagine them as utilitarian, so I suppose any sartorial weight they carry is lost on me.

Come Back Johnny B (Johnney B), Monday, 24 October 2005 10:07 (twenty years ago)

I guess part of the problem is that a lot of people wear trainers to death & never clean them so quite often they look hideous.

Panther Pink (Pinkpanther), Monday, 24 October 2005 10:09 (twenty years ago)

mew :(

g-kit (g-kit), Monday, 24 October 2005 10:09 (twenty years ago)

I wear trainers because they are comfortable and alleviate the endless ankle problems that I seem to suffer.

But then again, I suspect that the ankle problems may have been caused by an ill-fitting pair of trainers, so who knows.

I like trainers, I like normal shoes. What I don't like is shoes with high heels on them.

Paranoid Spice (kate), Monday, 24 October 2005 10:11 (twenty years ago)

I like any shoes that don't hurt and aren't sandals. Pinxor your shoexor roxor.

beanz (beanz), Monday, 24 October 2005 10:14 (twenty years ago)

WHAT DID SANDALS EVER DO TO YOU?!?!?

Ha ha, actually I had an ex boyfriend who was OBSESSED with the hatred of sandals. He didn't mind them so much on women, but he had a campaign to stamp out sandal wearing amoung men.

But then again, he was a mod and a bit of a dandy.

Paranoid Spice (kate), Monday, 24 October 2005 10:16 (twenty years ago)

Yeah, I add my disdain for sandals (my loathing for flipflops is well documented). However, I have to say that I am finding myself less and less aroused by trainers and more excited at the prospect of finding some stylish, classy grown-up shoes to wear day-to-day instead...

Markelby (Mark C), Monday, 24 October 2005 10:17 (twenty years ago)

Thank you Beanz kind sir! :-)
I don't wear each pair of trainers long enough for them to do any damage to my feet, like blisters for example. It's all about the rotation!
X-post
Are not inferring that trainers are not grown up?

Panther Pink (Pinkpanther), Monday, 24 October 2005 10:21 (twenty years ago)

not=you! *tuts at self*

Panther Pink (Pinkpanther), Monday, 24 October 2005 10:21 (twenty years ago)

Yes on women, sandals are fine. And on the continent they're fine-ish too for men, for some reason. I even got talked into buying and wearing some in France this summer though I was never very easy in them. But for UK men they look very stupid.

xpost

I think the bigger the trainer, the less grown up they look. (The exception is Converse All Stars.) That's not to say grown ups shouldn't wear them.

beanz (beanz), Monday, 24 October 2005 10:24 (twenty years ago)

Sorry, I've been off googling pictures of Regency Dandies again and missing out on the conversation... I did, however, manage to find a photo of the sandal-hating ex dressed up as a Regency/60s mod Dandy, which was excellent.

Trainers not grown up? Is that one of those things like where you're not supposed to wear jeans over the age of 40?

Paranoid Spice (kate), Monday, 24 October 2005 10:27 (twenty years ago)

do you people have a special place for finding special, difficult-to-find trainers?

RJG (RJG), Monday, 24 October 2005 10:31 (twenty years ago)

What people are you talking about?

Panther Pink (Pinkpanther), Monday, 24 October 2005 10:32 (twenty years ago)

you?

RJG (RJG), Monday, 24 October 2005 10:33 (twenty years ago)

morning! woo, what a weekend. lots of fun, v&c had a proper choir in the church at their wedding and they chose jerusalem so we all got to sing something FUN and the party was awesome AND i met a cuet boy. oxford was wicked too, like some sort of multi-reunion thing going on. and driving between all these things was nearly as good as the things we were driving between.

emsk ( emsk), Monday, 24 October 2005 10:35 (twenty years ago)

sandals r teh evul.

g-kit (g-kit), Monday, 24 October 2005 10:36 (twenty years ago)

I'm not sure I appreciate being called "you people" but can you be a bit more specific with your question. I mean there's not a miracle shop somewhere that you can pick up more exclusive shoes.

Panther Pink (Pinkpanther), Monday, 24 October 2005 10:36 (twenty years ago)

Cute boy? Cute boy? Do tell of this!

Wow, a proper choir singing Jerusalem, I wish I had heard that. I love that song, but then you'd have expected that with the Blake fixation.

I hear you are going to Brighton on Tuesday! It is funny to hear multiple gossip from different people in different places. I heard some very interesting gossip in Brighton.

x-post ... yes, there is! You and James took me there in Soho! It had shoes in cages, they were so exclusive! ;-)

Paranoid Spice (kate), Monday, 24 October 2005 10:38 (twenty years ago)

you people

RJG (RJG), Monday, 24 October 2005 10:39 (twenty years ago)

Haha, it depends what shoes you are after Kate, but that is a pretty cool shop.
x-post

Oh I see, you don't actually want a response, you're just being an arse, fair enough, carry on!

Panther Pink (Pinkpanther), Monday, 24 October 2005 10:39 (twenty years ago)

Surely you mean:

you, people.

Your punctuation is very remiss, Mr. G.

Paranoid Spice (kate), Monday, 24 October 2005 10:41 (twenty years ago)

is "you guys" more cuddly than "you people"?

RJG (RJG), Monday, 24 October 2005 10:43 (twenty years ago)

ack, i thought i was Mr G for a minute.

g-kit (g-kit), Monday, 24 October 2005 10:45 (twenty years ago)

I think "you people" carries an air of condescention. "You guys" is somewhat more cordial and informal. So long as it's not "you folks" - that really irritates me as Folk is a collective noun.

x-post, no, sorry, you are G or Mr. Kitten. Mr. G is Mister Gi1i1anders there.

Paranoid Spice (kate), Monday, 24 October 2005 10:46 (twenty years ago)

No you are just "G"!

Panther Pink (Pinkpanther), Monday, 24 October 2005 10:46 (twenty years ago)

I guess you're Master G.
xxpost!

beanz (beanz), Monday, 24 October 2005 10:48 (twenty years ago)

Or G-man. Or the G-ster. (This is designed to suggest you should stick to "G"...)

beanz (beanz), Monday, 24 October 2005 10:49 (twenty years ago)

hi! guyz!!!!

RJG (RJG), Monday, 24 October 2005 10:49 (twenty years ago)

I think you have mistaken us for NOIZE, which we are quite certainly not.

Paranoid Spice (kate), Monday, 24 October 2005 10:50 (twenty years ago)

G-Noize

g-kit (g-kit), Monday, 24 October 2005 10:51 (twenty years ago)

it's so difficult to fit in

RJG (RJG), Monday, 24 October 2005 10:51 (twenty years ago)

how so?

g-kit (g-kit), Monday, 24 October 2005 10:54 (twenty years ago)

It's easy to fit in here! (So long as you are not NOIZE.) Pick your topic of obsession - for g-kit it's cookies and guitars, for Pink it's trainers, for Forest it's computers and crushes, for me it's Regency Dandys and pointy-nosed sea captains - and just go on about it as much as you fancy.

Plus huggles. We're very big on huggles here. As my uncle would say HUGGALOOSHI!! HUGGALOOSHI TIME!!! EVERYBODY HUGGLES!!! SQUEEEEEEEEZE!

Paranoid Spice (kate), Monday, 24 October 2005 10:57 (twenty years ago)

Can you feel the love? I can feel the love! (Or maybe that's my lunch.)

Paranoid Spice (kate), Monday, 24 October 2005 10:57 (twenty years ago)

Cute boy? Cute boy? Do tell of this!

he is called s and he is 28 and his job is helping people and he looks surprisingly neat for me (though admittedly we were at a wedding, i looked phenonemally neat compared with my usual sloppiness, even wore teh LONG STYLISH SKIRT) with veh good black thick-rimmed glasses, he looks a bit like he should be in the futureheads. we swapped numbers but the german says under no circumstances should i contact him first and the russian agrees. what does ile think? he might be around on tuesday at the gig.

Wow, a proper choir singing Jerusalem, I wish I had heard that. I love that song, but then you'd have expected that with the Blake fixation.

yeh it was amazing, and they did this shenandoah thing at the end when they were signing the register that had me in puddles too. jerusalem is the only hymn i like. we had a big conversation about it later and decided that the reason hymns are so crap is that they have no discernible tune, the next note always seems to be random. obv this is really cool in one way, but not when you're meant to be singing the feckers, especially if they're supposed to be rousing and spiritual and whatnot. how can you be spiritual when you keep stumbling over the notes? bah. it was a PROPER wedding though, y'know? boys in top hats and everything. me and h and the german were totally the bad girls...

I hear you are going to Brighton on Tuesday! It is funny to hear multiple gossip from different people in different places. I heard some very interesting gossip in Brighton.

ok spill! or at least, gossip concerning whom? yeh i am going to brighton, the organ and the victorians are playing. dribble.

emsk ( emsk), Monday, 24 October 2005 10:59 (twenty years ago)

Definitely wait for him to contact you Emsk!

Panther Pink (Pinkpanther), Monday, 24 October 2005 11:00 (twenty years ago)

duuuuuuuuuude. i'm not obsessed with ALL guitars. i'm monogomous!

ah, sweet, sweet jaggy. i miss you already. though i confess, i tinkered with my telecaster at the weekend, but it meant nothing, we're just friends. and i was thinking of you the whole time. i anticipate collecting you as soon as possible, i feel like i am missing an arm in your absence. sweet jaggy, though you cry and scream at times, i still love you. come home soon. xx

g-kit (g-kit), Monday, 24 October 2005 11:03 (twenty years ago)

Awww!

Panther Pink (Pinkpanther), Monday, 24 October 2005 11:04 (twenty years ago)

Boy sounds nice! OK, I would say contact him, but then I'm RUBBISH with men, so don't do what I say. (Have you asked Echo to ask the TGL to come to your party? I mean, he knows about it, but I don't want to pester. He didn't ask any questions in his last emails, so I would feel awkward replying.)

Hymns are not random! SOme of them are very beautiful! But then again, I grew up singing hymns, so I know loads of them, and they are familiar to me.

Gossip is stuff you probably already know, but news to me. Might tell you later. Though not tonight as I got guest listed for Final Fantasy at the last minute (and oh no, I am not dressed very well).

Paranoid Spice (kate), Monday, 24 October 2005 11:04 (twenty years ago)

(i need professional help at this point)

g-kit (g-kit), Monday, 24 October 2005 11:06 (twenty years ago)

Professional help is overrated. We never talk about my guitars.

I have yet another million page questionnaire to fill out. Sigh.

Paranoid Spice (kate), Monday, 24 October 2005 11:06 (twenty years ago)

ooh, guitars plural. what else you have, Katester?

g-kit (g-kit), Monday, 24 October 2005 11:09 (twenty years ago)

The Jaguar and the Danelectro, in this country. I do not talk about my ex guitars still in storage at my mum's because it's too traumatic to think about how much I miss them.

Paranoid Spice (kate), Monday, 24 October 2005 11:11 (twenty years ago)

hehe, you said jaguar.

g-kit (g-kit), Monday, 24 October 2005 11:11 (twenty years ago)

D'oh! My Jazzmaster would kill me for that typo.

Paranoid Spice (kate), Monday, 24 October 2005 11:13 (twenty years ago)

it's so difficult to fit in

But sir, I love you.

I have no idea why I'm awake.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 24 October 2005 11:13 (twenty years ago)

if i called jaggy a jazzmaster, she'd be all like "omg you said another woman's name" and our relationship would be like SO OVER.

xpost
ya, zackly. you in trouble.

g-kit (g-kit), Monday, 24 October 2005 11:13 (twenty years ago)

Well, clearly I practise free love with my guitars, as they do not mind. ;-)

Paranoid Spice (kate), Monday, 24 October 2005 11:15 (twenty years ago)

(Ha ha, I once wrote a cartoon which was called "Ten Reasons A Guitar Is Better Than A Boyfriend" reason 4 or 5 of which was "if you catch another woman playing your guitar, its like, no big deal!")

Paranoid Spice (kate), Monday, 24 October 2005 11:16 (twenty years ago)

Boy sounds nice! OK, I would say contact him

Kate OTM. If the very first thing you do in a relationship is start gameplaying then really, what's the point.

Markelby (Mark C), Monday, 24 October 2005 11:20 (twenty years ago)

i sent my SG to be fixed too, but that was just by a friend of a friend. jaggy got the professional tech treatment.

g-kit (g-kit), Monday, 24 October 2005 11:20 (twenty years ago)

Yeah, but boys get funny if you come on "too aggressive" at the start. They often misread it as desperate or something. Honestly, I don't know. Do the exact opposite of whatever it is I do, because I'm rubbish at it.

Paranoid Spice (kate), Monday, 24 October 2005 11:23 (twenty years ago)

Not talking about game playing here. I'd contact him straight away if it was me, but she asked the question so she obviously thought it wasn't best to contact him right away!

Panther Pink (Pinkpanther), Monday, 24 October 2005 11:23 (twenty years ago)

argh! 2 ppl say do get in touch, 1 says no. i am not trying to gameplay, i just have NO CLUE is all: i'm rarely arsed enough about anyone to even think about what to do/not to do. anwyay i left his number at home today (accidentally) so i couldn't do anything about it til about midnight.

emsk ( emsk), Monday, 24 October 2005 11:24 (twenty years ago)

ooh, it's a vote? do i count?
get in touch!

g-kit (g-kit), Monday, 24 October 2005 11:26 (twenty years ago)

DO NOT CALL HIM AT MIDNIGHT!!!

Paranoid Spice (kate), Monday, 24 October 2005 11:27 (twenty years ago)

Also, don't send him an email from "vomit.quiff" as it might put him off a bit :)

Markelby (Mark C), Monday, 24 October 2005 11:27 (twenty years ago)

He might arch his eyebrow curiously at the least!

Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 24 October 2005 11:28 (twenty years ago)

haha no i wasn't gonna call him at midnight!

emsk ( emsk), Monday, 24 October 2005 11:28 (twenty years ago)

Is it a mobile number, in which case txting is the way forward. Just a quick hi. ANd when he replies back, it will not be particularly heartening, because it won't be encouraging. THIS IS NORMAL. Send him another one back allowing him to call you at a certain time. This is not gameplay, this is the secret ritual.

Come Back Johnny B (Johnney B), Monday, 24 October 2005 11:42 (twenty years ago)

it's not secret anymore...

g-kit (g-kit), Monday, 24 October 2005 11:44 (twenty years ago)

blimey! what have i been initiated into?

emsk ( emsk), Monday, 24 October 2005 11:45 (twenty years ago)

JB, since you're giving away the secrets of the male gender, can you tell me how to handle the emailing with the Typographer?

Paranoid Spice (kate), Monday, 24 October 2005 11:47 (twenty years ago)

Call, text, anything! Emsk, don't wait... :(

angle of d... (tingo), Monday, 24 October 2005 11:47 (twenty years ago)

Secrets of the male gender: men are Very Mere but not all that bad for it. The rest follows!

Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 24 October 2005 11:49 (twenty years ago)

the secret of the male gender: there are no secrets. none of us have a fucking clue what we're doing, why we're doing it and especially whether we should be doing it in the first place.

g-kit (g-kit), Monday, 24 October 2005 11:49 (twenty years ago)

I cannot tell from his last email if he wants me to respond or not.

I mean, if it were an email from someone I knew, I would respond anyway and chat away about the subjects that he raised. (Radio 4, more about Trafalgar, more about his library, the address and theme of the party, etc.) But I don't know him well, and would feel strange, especially as there was so little encouragement.

And I'm thinking more that Celibacy really was the right lifestyle choice after all.

Anyway, I'm annoyed because I've got something I think would actually be an interesting and thought provoking thread if it managed to stay serious and polite - but there's no way in hell we could have it at the moment without its degenerating into a flamewar. And that annoys me!

(No, it's not about Celibacy as lifestyle choice, before you ask, we've done that already.)

Paranoid Spice (kate), Monday, 24 October 2005 11:55 (twenty years ago)

Actually, the whole texting thing didn't occur to me. Text him at midnight to say sorry I forgot my phone blah blah blah & ask him to call you tomorrow. OF course, that's if you want to get in touch.

x-post

Kate - email him back!

Panther Pink (Pinkpanther), Monday, 24 October 2005 11:56 (twenty years ago)

Do not text him at midnight, either! I hate when people text me in the middle of the night, because it half wakes me up and then read the text half asleep and have no memory in the morning of if it was real or not.

Paranoid Spice (kate), Monday, 24 October 2005 12:00 (twenty years ago)

Sounds like a character from the Tick -- the Evil Texter What Texts at Midnight.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 24 October 2005 12:01 (twenty years ago)

kate - the email may have been formal, but it's hardly cause for concern. Hiding behind formality is our way of defending against actually feeling anything - so if he really likes you, the formality may be a good sign. The problem is that if he really dislikes you, he'll take the same tone at this stage. Way to find out is to email back without asking a question or implying that a reply is required. If he then doesn't email, then it's official, he hates you. If he does reply, then you're in.

Emsk - if he's into you, he won't mind you texting at night, but keep it to evenings for now.

Come Back Johnny B (Johnney B), Monday, 24 October 2005 12:02 (twenty years ago)

(then again, considering I go to bed at about 9.30 recently, depends on what you call Middle of the Night.)

x-post

Paranoid Spice (kate), Monday, 24 October 2005 12:03 (twenty years ago)

there's no way in hell we could have [this thread] at the moment without its degenerating into a flamewar.

Why, is something rotten afoot in ILE? It all seems amicable enough from where I'm standing, but maybe I'm at the bottom of the hill.

Come Back Johnny B (Johnney B), Monday, 24 October 2005 12:05 (twenty years ago)

There have just been a lot of unpleasant anonymous trolls recently, plus regulars acting like unpleasant trolls. At one point on Friday afternoon there were five simulataneous troll threads going. I just don't feel like attracting the flack at the moment. As it is a quite personal thread topic, and would probably attract the worse sort of nastiness.

Paranoid Spice (kate), Monday, 24 October 2005 12:10 (twenty years ago)

Actually, that really sucks. If you change your posting style, and/or the things that you would discuss on a forum to avoid inciting trolls - well, in a way, they've won. You've been censored, your free speech has been curtailed by the offensiveness of others.

But at the same time, I just don't want the grief.

Paranoid Spice (kate), Monday, 24 October 2005 12:13 (twenty years ago)

ow ow ow!

i am having a bad day.

angle of d... (tingo), Monday, 24 October 2005 12:22 (twenty years ago)

ok ok, so i will do nothing today but about this time tomorrow maybe i will text him and remind him about the gig or sth. trouble is i have a meeting before the gig so there is no hanging out time, and there will be plenty more people i know once i get there. plus there are weird tensions around this gig for various reasons. bargh.

xpost ow ow what angle person?

emsk ( emsk), Monday, 24 October 2005 12:24 (twenty years ago)

hot toast?

Ste (Fuzzy), Monday, 24 October 2005 12:25 (twenty years ago)

kate pls email me and tell me gothip! i have to go out and do 674694487984200 photocopies at the shop in a minute so something to think about would be nice. and some lunch, hmm.

emsk ( emsk), Monday, 24 October 2005 12:26 (twenty years ago)

Here's some lunch: Twice-baked Goats' Cheese Souffles with Chives and Balsamic Vinaigrette
http://static.deliaonline.com/images/originals/su106-twice-baked-goat-chee-18966.jpg

Come Back Johnny B (Johnney B), Monday, 24 October 2005 12:29 (twenty years ago)

I've emailed you, Emsk, but like I said, it's probably quite boring to you.

Wierd tensions? Oh no. :-(

Paranoid Spice (kate), Monday, 24 October 2005 12:32 (twenty years ago)

Trolls are rubbish. Now I come to think of it I DID see some dickish behaivior on friday. Why's everyone being so mean to you all of a sudden? Weird.

Weird tensions aren't good either.

Why is everyone being so rubbish! STOP BEING RUBBISH! ALL OF YOU!

Come Back Johnny B (Johnney B), Monday, 24 October 2005 12:33 (twenty years ago)

Wow, that lunch looks good.

Paranoid Spice (kate), Monday, 24 October 2005 12:34 (twenty years ago)

It's off the delia website. I was gonna give it a go tonight but I might just sleep instead. And I've got to write my debate - aaaaaah!

Come Back Johnny B (Johnney B), Monday, 24 October 2005 12:35 (twenty years ago)

weird tensions are work-related: i am trying to stop impending disaster but if i say anything about it to the people who can do anything about it i will look as though i am being bitter and selfish. shitty situation.

emsk ( emsk), Monday, 24 October 2005 12:36 (twenty years ago)

Oh, is this the record company situation you were talking about before?

Paranoid Spice (kate), Monday, 24 October 2005 12:37 (twenty years ago)

Trolls are rubbish!

What's wrong with texting people at midnight? If you don't want to be woken by texts then turn your phone off, it's simple! Surely part of the fun of a new romance is talking into the wee small hours! Jeez!

Panther Pink (Pinkpanther), Monday, 24 October 2005 12:43 (twenty years ago)

xpost yeh kate it is :( i think it's not gonna work out for the best.

emsk ( emsk), Monday, 24 October 2005 12:43 (twenty years ago)

I don't like turning my phone off because I use it as an alarm clock and if it's off, it's too easy to turn off the alarm when you mean to hit snooze.

Anyway - I just think it's rude to call people late at night, but that's just me. If someone is calling me after 10pm on a weeknight, they better damn well be IN THE PROCESS OF DYING because otherwise, if they're dead already, they can wait until morning!

But we all knew I was a sleep fascist. :-)

x-post. bah.

Paranoid Spice (kate), Monday, 24 October 2005 12:46 (twenty years ago)

ta pink. i dunno, i don't mind being texted in the middle of the night but i do keep late hours in general... both times i met him it was at celebrations and everyone was drunked so i dunno how his life works.

emsk ( emsk), Monday, 24 October 2005 12:46 (twenty years ago)

just owwwww. :( i don't want to come to the gig now either, but i suppose i gotta. but maybe i'll get injured at fight club before and not be able to :)

angle of d... (tingo), Monday, 24 October 2005 12:47 (twenty years ago)

Wow! Completely off topic, but...

I just got a message from the publisher of That Music Mag What I Write For, and he said that apparently he just started working in the office of a music company, and one of his colleagues liked my Busted article so much she actually tore it out and stuck it on the wall of her office! That's great! Hearing something like that really makes it all worthwhile. :-)

Paranoid Spice (kate), Monday, 24 October 2005 12:48 (twenty years ago)

xpost

angle - but the gig is gonna be GREAT:

the victorians will rough you up a bit (but you'll like it) then make you grin so wide the top of your head will fall off

then the organ will soothe you and make you tingle and make you feel like there is someone in the world who knows what you mean and they will make you dance and they will make all your hackles lie flat, all at the same time

i will stand at the bar yelling at passersby

emsk ( emsk), Monday, 24 October 2005 12:51 (twenty years ago)

Anyway - I just think it's rude to call people late at night, but that's just me. If someone is calling me after 10pm on a weeknight, they better damn well be IN THE PROCESS OF DYING because otherwise, if they're dead already, they can wait until morning!

Of course, but I am not talking about calling him, I am talking about texting this guy, MASSIVE difference.

Panther Pink (Pinkpanther), Monday, 24 October 2005 12:55 (twenty years ago)

Emsk, I've seen the Victorians, remember? But thanks for the encouragement. You're a true pro, and I do need to see The Organ...

angle of d... (tingo), Monday, 24 October 2005 13:03 (twenty years ago)

i know you have ! just reminding you how awesome they are.

emsk ( emsk), Monday, 24 October 2005 13:09 (twenty years ago)

The Victorians? Do they dress the part?

Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 24 October 2005 13:12 (twenty years ago)

Do they beat small boys with sticks?

Come Back Johnny B (Johnney B), Monday, 24 October 2005 13:15 (twenty years ago)

Oh, like WE don't do that.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 24 October 2005 13:16 (twenty years ago)

They are not Victorian. Nor are they Gentlemen. Nor are they even English!!!

Get the Trade Descriptions Act upon them!

Paranoid Spice (kate), Monday, 24 October 2005 13:17 (twenty years ago)

Hitting them with the coal scuttle doesn't count.

xpost

Come Back Johnny B (Johnney B), Monday, 24 October 2005 13:17 (twenty years ago)

They're very young, one floppy-haired boy and a girl. As Kate says, they're not even English, they're Welsh.

I've think really had enough of looking at bands for a while. I'm so bored of the performer/audience division - why am I going places to stand facing stages and feed performers' egos with attention? Some of the dance acts of the 90s had the idea - it shouldn't all be about looking, it should be about participation.

I blame the infrastructure. Maybe the kids of the summer of love should've destroyed all the small stages in the country and turned them into something into something a bit more inclusive.

angle of d... (tingo), Monday, 24 October 2005 13:38 (twenty years ago)

This is why I only go to gigs of bands that I like. I'm not that keen on the gigging experience, TBH. But that could be a function of my age. But I like going to see *performances* that I enjoy. Part of the joy of going to a concert (or a play or a ballet or a performance of any kind) is getting to see people do things (that maybe you can't do), who do them very well.

Participation and performance are different things.

Paranoid Spice (kate), Monday, 24 October 2005 13:42 (twenty years ago)

Sorry, two girls. Bass and drums. They drummer's particularly cool, but this doesn't change my current feelings about bands that want to be looked at. It was Kevin Blech that did it I guess.

angle of d... (tingo), Monday, 24 October 2005 13:43 (twenty years ago)

I enjoyed Kevin Blechdom, but then again, I like her music. Planning To Rock, however, was clearly Performance Art and I am Against Performance Art.

Paranoid Spice (kate), Monday, 24 October 2005 13:44 (twenty years ago)

Exactly. That's why I hate eating places like that Mongolian Wok place we've got in Oxford. Basicly, you go in, pick your own food, the chap there cooks it, and you eat it. Great participation, but what you end up with is a badly put together stir-fry. When I go to a restaurant I want someone who can cook better than me, cooking for me. If I wanted to cook for me, I'd have stayed at home.

So kate otm, in essence.

Come Back Johnny B (Johnney B), Monday, 24 October 2005 13:46 (twenty years ago)

Oh, there was probably an xpost in there somewhere. I'm too tired to do any debate work tonight, I'm gonna go home and bake coconut macaroons.

Come Back Johnny B (Johnney B), Monday, 24 October 2005 13:47 (twenty years ago)

Oooh, macaroons!

Forest Pines (ForestPines), Monday, 24 October 2005 13:48 (twenty years ago)

Mmmm, macaroons. I suppose I should drink some more coffee if I'm going out. To a gig, ha ha.

Paranoid Spice (kate), Monday, 24 October 2005 13:53 (twenty years ago)

If I remember, I'll take a pic of them and post it. I hope they turn out okay.

Come Back Johnny B (Johnney B), Monday, 24 October 2005 14:04 (twenty years ago)

We don't want pictures. We want the COOKIE DELIVERY SERVICE (i.e. Emsk and her bike) to deliver them to us!

(Emsk, have you ever seen Kiki's Delivery Service? Suddenly it made me think of you.)

Paranoid Spice (kate), Monday, 24 October 2005 14:05 (twenty years ago)

Wow busy afternoon on this thread when I turn my back – and I return just in time for the cookie talk

beanz (beanz), Monday, 24 October 2005 14:20 (twenty years ago)

no they aren't welsh, they're all english, but they live in cardiff. you beat small boys with sticks, ned? i am reappraising my appraisal of your character.

bah this computer is FUKT

hargh i am still not bored of gigs. perhaps i should be. but i'd rather not be.

emsk ( emsk), Monday, 24 October 2005 14:32 (twenty years ago)

you beat small boys with sticks, ned? i am reappraising my appraisal of your character.

I confess this is a lie. I did it for the glory.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 24 October 2005 14:33 (twenty years ago)

oh hey, i was in um... a shop the other day (fuck, where was i? did i dream this?) and i saw some krispy kreme donuts that you go on about all the time, and and and and my gf was like "ooh krispy kreme" and i was all "yeah, what's the deal?" and she was all "ooh, there are like l33t donuts" and i was all "oh ya, i heard them mentioned" and she was like "yeah! you want some?" and i thought to myself "i dun really need to be addicted to these donuts as well as cookies, that wouldn't be great" so i was like "no thanks."

(i remembered, it was Tesco. also, sorry for posting like a 12 yr old american girl)

g-kit (g-kit), Monday, 24 October 2005 14:38 (twenty years ago)

FAKE WELSHES!!! KILL KILL KILL!!!

We can still beat them with sticks if they come to Chester after dark, though. Not that we would want to. Except for the one that looks like Boris Johnson, but he might enjoy it. ;-)

x-post

Paranoid Spice (kate), Monday, 24 October 2005 14:40 (twenty years ago)

i wish i'd had one now.

g-kit (g-kit), Monday, 24 October 2005 14:41 (twenty years ago)

I mean, if it were an email from someone I knew, I would respond anyway and chat away about the subjects that he raised. (Radio 4, more about Trafalgar, more about his library, the address and theme of the party, etc.) But I don't know him well, and would feel strange, especially as there was so little encouragement.

I can't help thinking that maybe you should consider the fact that he started this by offering to discuss things he works on, and gave you a business card, as a sign. I'm offering this as something to consider, rather than advice, as my advice is always rubbish.

Andrew Farrell (afarrell), Monday, 24 October 2005 14:42 (twenty years ago)

1) He actually spent some time looking for a more personal card but could not find one, so he gave me his business card. It was in response to saying "You should come on more walks with us" that he gave me his contact details, rather than business.

2) I've been given a business card by someone I ended up dating before today. I don't think it really means anything.

...though honestly, I'm not sure what you're implying because I'm thick and you have to spell things out for me.

Anyway, back on topic... donuts, mmmmmm.

Paranoid Spice (kate), Monday, 24 October 2005 14:45 (twenty years ago)

When I met my gf the first time I gave her my business card. Actually I wrote a friend's website url on it so it didn't seem like a slezy move. Of course it was totally transparent but she didn't seem to mind...

beanz (beanz), Monday, 24 October 2005 14:48 (twenty years ago)

Yay I've just got a press trip to Baaaaarcelooonaa! Maybe not such a bad day after all.

And on the subject of Radio 4, does anyone else object to the fact that the thought of the day is always from some faith or other ? Atheists never get to have their say on that spot. But I'm sure y'all have discussed this already.

angle of d... (tingo), Monday, 24 October 2005 14:49 (twenty years ago)

The BBC has acknowledged your criticism and ignored it. You're right, I object too.

beanz (beanz), Monday, 24 October 2005 14:51 (twenty years ago)

I really don't need my insecurities tweaked any more than they already are. Sigh. I've been trying to be positive and not spiral down into "who am I kidding, no one could *ever* actually like me or be attracted to me" territory as that's even uglier than any physical ugliness. :-(

Actually who am I kidding? I'm not going to answer the email. And now I'm probably not even going to go to Emsk's party in case he turns up and I make a drunken fool of myself, and instead I'm going to stay home and think about what might have been had I not been so shit, and annoy everyone with my endless self pitying posts to ILX. That's a MUCH better idea, isn't it?

Paranoid Spice (kate), Monday, 24 October 2005 14:54 (twenty years ago)

wow, last thing someone said to me before hometime was "eat my ass". what a day.

g-kit (g-kit), Monday, 24 October 2005 14:55 (twenty years ago)

What should I have for supper tonight? I've got to head down to the Spitz but I don't fancy Indian on Brick Lane again.

Paranoid Spice (kate), Monday, 24 October 2005 14:58 (twenty years ago)

cornetto

Ste (Fuzzy), Monday, 24 October 2005 15:00 (twenty years ago)

Ice cream for dinner? I don't think so.

I wonder if the Don Quixote is still open, then I could get a hallumi sammich. But I think they close at 5pm or so.

Paranoid Spice (kate), Monday, 24 October 2005 15:08 (twenty years ago)

i thought you said supper? dinner was 5 hours ago.

Ste (Fuzzy), Monday, 24 October 2005 15:10 (twenty years ago)

In *my* class, dinner happens about 8 or 9pm.

Paranoid Spice (kate), Monday, 24 October 2005 15:12 (twenty years ago)

oh. you mean tea.

Ste (Fuzzy), Monday, 24 October 2005 15:13 (twenty years ago)

(am only joshing w'yer)

night all.

Ste (Fuzzy), Monday, 24 October 2005 15:13 (twenty years ago)

...and we dress for it! In black tie!

Ha ha, good night. :-)

Paranoid Spice (kate), Monday, 24 October 2005 15:14 (twenty years ago)

I'm shocked by my garbled posts today, even by my standards. "I've think really had enough"? "turned them into something into something"?

Bah, a sign of general inner confusion - g'night sweet ladies (and gentlemen, Victorian or otherwise) g'night g'night g'night etc.

angle of d... (tingo), Monday, 24 October 2005 15:25 (twenty years ago)

wow, last thing someone said to me before hometime was "eat my ass"

Lucky.

Markelby (Mark C), Monday, 24 October 2005 15:27 (twenty years ago)

Ah, the English are all going home now. And it's hours before I get to leave. Unless I can figure out somewhere time-wasting to have dinner before the Plan B thing tonight.

Paranoid Spice (kate), Monday, 24 October 2005 15:28 (twenty years ago)

What should I have for supper tonight? I've got to head down to the Spitz but I don't fancy Indian on Brick Lane again

try the hookah bar on brick lane? i think it's open lateish, don't think it does proper big meals but like abu zaad get a few different things and num num. halloumi. cous cous. beany tomatoey things. num. and i love their furniture.

emsk ( emsk), Monday, 24 October 2005 15:40 (twenty years ago)

Wah, now I want good Indian food and I am stuck here. :-(

Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 24 October 2005 15:43 (twenty years ago)

Oh, I've walked by Hookah Bar before. Dunno, though, looks like it might be smokey. Hrmmm. I don't even know what I want to eat. Maybe Chinese, actually.

Paranoid Spice (kate), Monday, 24 October 2005 15:45 (twenty years ago)

Or maybe pizza... Dunno. Bah. I think I just don't want to have to eat in a restaurant by myself. I mean, I've got a book, but it's Will Self and that's not exactly appetising.

Perhaps I'll take the bus up to Angel and eat in the £3 Indian place. That might be good... or perhaps I'll get all you can eat Dodgy Cult food on Leather Lane.

Actually, thinking about Dodgy Cult food just made my stomach rumble, so that's what I'll have.

Paranoid Spice (kate), Monday, 24 October 2005 15:51 (twenty years ago)

I've been trying to be positive and not spiral down into "who am I kidding, no one could *ever* actually like me or be attracted to me" territory as that's even uglier than any physical ugliness. :-(
Actually who am I kidding? I'm not going to answer the email. And now I'm probably not even going to go to Emsk's party in case he turns up and I make a drunken fool of myself, and instead I'm going to stay home and think about what might have been had I not been so shit,

kate, stop this madness, please. i have no idea what goes on in tgl's head (i haven't seen the belgian for ages, i am not in my house very often it seems and neither is she) and am not trying to hint at anything, but i get the impression his ladeez skillz are, well, fallen into disuse. he possibly has no idea how to react to this interest (hello mr pot, hello mr kettle - yes well, that is HOW I KNOW, ok). anyway there are more reasons to go to a party than boys. humph.

emsk ( emsk), Monday, 24 October 2005 15:52 (twenty years ago)

I was actually kind of joking around and parodying my usual self pity party rants, Emsk. Of course I'm coming to your party.

I just get kind of sick when the same person or persons are ALWAYS being naysayers.

Paranoid Spice (kate), Monday, 24 October 2005 15:57 (twenty years ago)

To be perfectly honest...

but i get the impression his ladeez skillz are, well, fallen into disuse. he possibly has no idea how to react to this interest

I think this is the most rational and reasonable explanation for his behaviour. I am trying to get better at being a judge of character.

Paranoid Spice (kate), Monday, 24 October 2005 16:01 (twenty years ago)

yesgood. the belgian and her boy are gonna be at sande's gig tonight i think.

emsk ( emsk), Monday, 24 October 2005 16:26 (twenty years ago)

I just get kind of sick when the same person or persons are ALWAYS being naysayers.

I didn't think I'd made habit of it, sorry about that. As I was saying, I was just mentioning it because no-one else did, and you've clearly considered it. Any actual advice from me would basically only be projections of my views in similar situations, which is why my romantic life is less a ruin than a howling void.

Andrew Farrell (afarrell), Monday, 24 October 2005 16:45 (twenty years ago)

It's easy to fit in here! (So long as you are not NOIZE.) Pick your topic of obsession - for g-kit it's cookies and guitars, for Pink it's trainers, for Forest it's computers and crushes, for me it's Regency Dandys and pointy-nosed sea captains - and just go on about it as much as you fancy.

Unless it's football :)

ailsa (ailsa), Monday, 24 October 2005 17:02 (twenty years ago)

Am I allowed to have a crush on my computer, or would that just be wrong?

(I don't, incidentally)

Forest Pines (ForestPines), Monday, 24 October 2005 20:29 (twenty years ago)

No, no football. Sport does not exist in my world, la la la la...

Damn, I have a consultant copming in today so will not be able to spend much time on the web. Behave yourself, ya hear? ;-)

Paranoid Spice (kate), Tuesday, 25 October 2005 06:49 (twenty years ago)

Morning all! Baked coconut macaroons last night - yum yum! SOrry no photo, couldn't find my digi camera last night.

How was the gig? Did you have fun? Or did you punch someone? Or both?

Come Back Johnny B (Johnney B), Tuesday, 25 October 2005 06:51 (twenty years ago)

Gig was good. Very nearly got in a fight with MASSIVE FUCKOFF TALL PEOPLE WITH HUGE ASSES who came and stood in front of a whole section of people who were sitting down. That's the way things work at the Spitz - standing in the front, sitting at the sides, and lots of people get there early to get an actual SEAT. So these cunts (American tourists) come and STAND RIGHT AT THE FRONT BY THE STAGE in front of everyone who was sitting down. And then got outraged when I asked them to sit or move.

Which is a shame because the music was very, very good. I even bought a CD - a Stars of the Lid solo project. And Final Fantasy were amazing. Utterly astonishing. Tall skinny geeky blond boy who talks about video games and D&D but plays violin to break your heart.

Paranoid Spice (kate), Tuesday, 25 October 2005 06:57 (twenty years ago)

I've always wanted to learn violin - well, fiddle if I'm being honest. C&W sounds great with the fiddle in it. But I hate being rubbish at things, and when you start learning something your predictably rubbish at it, which rather puts me off. That and violins are hideously expensive.

SHame you're not gonna be around much today kate. DOn't worry, I'll look after your thread, it'll be in good hands.

So guys, Arsenal at the weekend . . .

Come Back Johnny B (Johnney B), Tuesday, 25 October 2005 07:00 (twenty years ago)

Morning... Going to be a long day I think.

beanz (beanz), Tuesday, 25 October 2005 07:14 (twenty years ago)

Violin strikes me as a hard instrument to learn to play well, because of the way you have to find the notes yourself.

I feel bleurgh this morning. As I was washing, I got an eyelash or something in my eye; I was in hopping-around agony for 10 minutes as I stumbled about trying to use the Optrex. Of course, it was in my good eye, which meant I couldn't see what I was doing at all. It took about an hour to go away - which, of course, was the other side of my drive to work.

Plus, I've got a headache, and my shoulders are painfully aching too - I must have been laying badly in bed last night.

Forest Pines (ForestPines), Tuesday, 25 October 2005 07:15 (twenty years ago)

morning morning. it is> going to be a long day...

angle of d... (tingo), Tuesday, 25 October 2005 07:20 (twenty years ago)

...but i reckoned without zorro!

http://www.banderas-mall.com/gallery/art/carol/zorro.jpg

angle of d... (tingo), Tuesday, 25 October 2005 07:48 (twenty years ago)

I hate Zorro.

BTW, these coconut macaroons are fantastic.

Come Back Johnny B (Johnney B), Tuesday, 25 October 2005 08:18 (twenty years ago)

Really? Why? I like the old Zorro. I've just made him the cover star of this week's magazine.

angle of d... (tingo), Tuesday, 25 October 2005 09:48 (twenty years ago)

Not Zorro necessarily, just that smug pic you've got of him. He looks like the type of dispatch someone to their maker and then make an amusing quip about it. God, I hate people like that.

I;ve still got some coconut macaroons left if anyone wants one?

Come Back Johnny B (Johnney B), Tuesday, 25 October 2005 10:25 (twenty years ago)

A bit like James Bond or countless other swashbuckling hero-types?

Thanks, I'm not normally partial to coconut, but I will.

angle of d... (tingo), Tuesday, 25 October 2005 10:46 (twenty years ago)

I've just spent 20 minutes sleeping in my office, with my feet up on the spare chair. Hurrah!

Forest Pines (ForestPines), Tuesday, 25 October 2005 10:51 (twenty years ago)

I hate swashbuckling types. No-one like a gloater.

Sleeping at work is brilliant. I slept all yesterday lunchtime on a bean-bag in the kitchen at work. It gives the whole of the afternoon a sense of the ethereal.

Come Back Johnny B (Johnney B), Tuesday, 25 October 2005 11:53 (twenty years ago)

Mmmm, coconut!

OK, finally got to have lunch. Blimey, we're working hard, but my consultant is great and has sorted out all of our issues! Hurrah!

Paranoid Spice (kate), Tuesday, 25 October 2005 11:58 (twenty years ago)

Morning! Afternoon! I've had the best morning ever today, so I am very smiley! :-) See!!

Panther Pink (Pinkpanther), Tuesday, 25 October 2005 12:03 (twenty years ago)

Best morning ever? So glad to hear! Do tell!

I cannot believe how much work I get done when I do not have access to the interweb.

Paranoid Spice (kate), Tuesday, 25 October 2005 12:03 (twenty years ago)

The best morning EVER? That's quite a statement. You either a) had lots of sex or b) cured all diseases ever or c) got elected Pope. Which was it?

Come Back Johnny B (Johnney B), Tuesday, 25 October 2005 12:05 (twenty years ago)

Ugh I want to go to sleep. In my own bed, far from work. Tell us about your morning Pink! xxpost

beanz (beanz), Tuesday, 25 October 2005 12:05 (twenty years ago)

Work is a flexible concept. xpost

Come Back Johnny B (Johnney B), Tuesday, 25 October 2005 12:06 (twenty years ago)

Sadly Kate it is one of those best not to divulge to the wonderful world that is the internet, but trust me, it has been the best morning ever!

Panther Pink (Pinkpanther), Tuesday, 25 October 2005 12:06 (twenty years ago)

Anyway, back to Zorro.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 25 October 2005 12:08 (twenty years ago)

However, the Consultant has fixed a strange mini-optical mouse to my computer which is confusing me.

Paranoid Spice (kate), Tuesday, 25 October 2005 12:10 (twenty years ago)

It's a webcam. There are strange men in south america watching you at this very moment.

Come Back Johnny B (Johnney B), Tuesday, 25 October 2005 12:28 (twenty years ago)

It keeps changing colour. It worries me.

Argh, I'm about to throw a barnet about the new user setup. I don't even think I should be handling this at all - I don't get half the information I need, and don't have the time to chase it. And then I get the flack when things don't get set up. NOT MY FREAKING JOB. Go away. Do I look like a Sys Admin to you?

Paranoid Spice (kate), Tuesday, 25 October 2005 12:30 (twenty years ago)

I dare to suggest Johnny B is jealous of all fictional male action hero-figures, and furthermore assert that optical mices are superior to their ball-fiddling-can't-get-that-smeg-out descendents.

angle of d... (tingo), Tuesday, 25 October 2005 12:30 (twenty years ago)

Do you mean a barneY, Kate?

Markelby (Mark C), Tuesday, 25 October 2005 12:31 (twenty years ago)

Does my jealosy invalidate my hatred? Why does hatred have to be rational or even moral?

And yeh, optical mice are better than wheelie ones, but colour-changing? That's a step too far.

Come Back Johnny B (Johnney B), Tuesday, 25 October 2005 12:32 (twenty years ago)

No, I mean throw a *barnet*. It means tearing my hear out and chucking it at them. Does what it says on the tin.

Paranoid Spice (kate), Tuesday, 25 October 2005 12:38 (twenty years ago)

Also, I object to its tiny size and fiendish colour changing ways.

Paranoid Spice (kate), Tuesday, 25 October 2005 12:38 (twenty years ago)

this is my Ghost-Pirate coat for Halloween. it used to be a World War II Swedish Army coat. Now it is for GHOST PIRATES. because my mother MODDED it. because she is l33t. ph34r my m0m. etc.

http://www.kittenrecords.co.uk/slypics/piratecoatarrr.jpg

g-kit (g-kit), Tuesday, 25 October 2005 12:59 (twenty years ago)

Errr... what does "l33t" mean?

Paranoid Spice (kate), Tuesday, 25 October 2005 13:14 (twenty years ago)

I wondered that!

Panther Pink (Pinkpanther), Tuesday, 25 October 2005 13:15 (twenty years ago)

l33t = leet = elite = hackers and gamers congratulating each other on their abilities.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 25 October 2005 13:17 (twenty years ago)

I might have known you'd have been clued up Ned! ;-)

Panther Pink (Pinkpanther), Tuesday, 25 October 2005 13:34 (twenty years ago)

That's a quality coat. Props to your mum.

Come Back Johnny B (Johnney B), Tuesday, 25 October 2005 13:35 (twenty years ago)

I feel like writing a really long, boring post about the things that are pissing me off about work but I should get on with doing work instead, really. And I feel a bit better just typing this anyway.

I like that coat. I've got a 1950s Belgian woollen army greatcoat that looks crappy and smells a bit. Maybe I should try modding it too. Shame that ghost-pirate has already been done – will have to think of something else

beanz (beanz), Tuesday, 25 October 2005 13:39 (twenty years ago)

The office today is making me feel crap, depressed, and alone.

So, no change there then.

Forest Pines (ForestPines), Tuesday, 25 October 2005 13:49 (twenty years ago)

i have to turn my fan on to create some noise in this deathly place, but I have to point it towards the wall otherwise i'll freeze to death.

Ste (Fuzzy), Tuesday, 25 October 2005 14:15 (twenty years ago)

I might have known you'd have been clued up Ned! ;-)

And yet I am not l33t myself.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 25 October 2005 14:16 (twenty years ago)

You could always come to my office, where I have trouble hearing people above the noise of the computer fans.

Forest Pines (ForestPines), Tuesday, 25 October 2005 14:17 (twenty years ago)

sorry for leetness, i am a geek. but a geek with a pirate coat!

i'm not l33t. it's not hereditary, i guess.

g-kit (g-kit), Tuesday, 25 October 2005 14:17 (twenty years ago)

isn't it 'l337'?

Ste (Fuzzy), Tuesday, 25 October 2005 14:22 (twenty years ago)

BTW, I neglected to mention... GREAT JACKET UP THERE!!!

Yay, my consultant was great! That was really good.

Paranoid Spice (kate), Tuesday, 25 October 2005 14:38 (twenty years ago)

Do You Ever Start To Read A Thread, Then Abandon It Because You Know Within About 10 Posts That It Will Drive You Irrational With Rage?

I'm not even talking about troll threads. Specifically, it was triggered by that Breaking Minor Rules thread which I knew within about 10 posts would send me into apoplexy if I read the rest.

(I was going to start a thread with this title, but thought it was just asking for trollage.)

Paranoid Spice (kate), Tuesday, 25 October 2005 14:45 (twenty years ago)

There are threads I don't even read at all, for that very reason.

Maybe the current proliferation of these kinds of things is why I've been posting a lot less recently.

aldo_cowpat (aldo_cowpat), Tuesday, 25 October 2005 14:46 (twenty years ago)

I've been tempted for a few months to go down to the local post office and see if PO Box 1337 is available.

Forest Pines (ForestPines), Tuesday, 25 October 2005 15:52 (twenty years ago)

Oh working late I LOVE IT give me more of that sweet sweet desperation and tired eyes and cramped mouse-hand

beanz (beanz), Tuesday, 25 October 2005 16:30 (twenty years ago)

You call 6.30 late?!?! Blimey, you soft Southern bastard, etc.

I left at my contract time yesterday. Got home by 6.30 and had ABSOLUTELY NO IDEA what to do with the rest of the evening. I did the grocery shopping - as much as I could in the decimated Safeway - then couldn't make a nice dinner because the housemates were in the kitchen. There was sod all on television (I fell asleep during Ginger CSI it was so boring), I finished my Will Self novel, and I just didn't feel inspired to do any writing.

Bah. Guess I'll just go back to working late. It's pathetic when you work late because you can't think what else to do.

Paranoid Spice (kate), Wednesday, 26 October 2005 06:48 (twenty years ago)

Good morning! 6.30 isn't late - I stayed for a few more hours after that. And I worked most of the weekend. So big raspberries to you.

I haven't been grocery shopping in weeks. Can't really work out what I've been living off though. Humous I guess. Humus? Isn't humous earth?

beanz (beanz), Wednesday, 26 October 2005 06:54 (twenty years ago)

Morning all. I've got my debate at 12.30, and I'm cacking it. I hope I don't make a tit of myself.

Come Back Johnny B (Johnney B), Wednesday, 26 October 2005 07:14 (twenty years ago)

I'm sure you'll be fine, JB.

Mmmm, hummus/humous/houmous whatever it is, it sure tastes fine. That's what I'm living on at the moment, too.

Paranoid Spice (kate), Wednesday, 26 October 2005 07:16 (twenty years ago)

I've never touched humous/homus/whateverus. It just looks like brown goo to me.

Come Back Johnny B (Johnney B), Wednesday, 26 October 2005 07:19 (twenty years ago)

Mmmm, yummy brown goo. With fresh veggies dipped in.

Paranoid Spice (kate), Wednesday, 26 October 2005 07:21 (twenty years ago)

I'm having organic porridge for breakfast with gooey syrup on top! haha!

Panther Pink (Pinkpanther), Wednesday, 26 October 2005 07:31 (twenty years ago)

Gooey syrup I approve. I had chicken tikka mayonnaise sandwich for breakfast, and I now feel terrible. I've got to put my little speech onto cards now - why didn't I pay attention in English class instead of throwing paper balls at the other side of the room?

Come Back Johnny B (Johnney B), Wednesday, 26 October 2005 07:46 (twenty years ago)

because you're so l33t.

i actaully looked up the availablitly of L337 license plates. they're all gone, used on regular service plates by people that don't even know they're l337.

i wanted L337 KIT

g-kit (g-kit), Wednesday, 26 October 2005 07:50 (twenty years ago)

$h17, more like.

Come Back Johnny B (Johnney B), Wednesday, 26 October 2005 07:53 (twenty years ago)

I think I've missed out vital info here, what speech Johnny?
The porridge has made me feel sick! :-(

Panther Pink (Pinkpanther), Wednesday, 26 October 2005 07:55 (twenty years ago)

You should have had porage, as my grandmother would insist, with water not milk and salt not sugar. Or, god forbid, syrup. (I'm on your side)

beanz (beanz), Wednesday, 26 October 2005 07:57 (twenty years ago)

well, thanks.

g-kit (g-kit), Wednesday, 26 October 2005 08:00 (twenty years ago)

I'm also one of those who thinks that porridge should be water-based. It's nice with a bit of ginger in, too.

For some reason, when I have *some* breakfast - like today - by mid-morning I'm much hungrier than on days when I have *no* breakfast.

Forest Pines (ForestPines), Wednesday, 26 October 2005 08:07 (twenty years ago)

Porridge should be made with watered down milk! Too much milk and it doesn't boil properly and curdles and goes nasty. I like to put Garam Masala in my porridge. Mmm, I haven't had any in ages. I should start eating it again, now it's winter.

When I was a child, we stayed at a hotel in Africa where they had FIVE DIFFERENT TYPES of porridge every morning. The waiters were astonished because they'd never seen a child eat as much porridge as enthusiastically as I did.

Paranoid Spice (kate), Wednesday, 26 October 2005 08:09 (twenty years ago)

When I lived in Edinburgh I'd buy kilos of oats for about 50p/kilo (I must be remembering that wrong) and live off them all winter.

5 different types of porridge?

beanz (beanz), Wednesday, 26 October 2005 08:31 (twenty years ago)

Oatmeal, Cream of Wheat, Maltabella... those are the only ones I can remember off hand but there were more.

Paranoid Spice (kate), Wednesday, 26 October 2005 08:33 (twenty years ago)

I really dislike porridge. Which is a shame, because I really like the idea of porridge - warming and healthy and tasty. Unfortunatly I always find it an unappetitsiing gloop.

My speech is detailed elsehwhere - I'd try and find the thread but search is broked. I've been bullied into being the inaugural speaker at a new debating society at work, and I've never done debating before. I've written my speech out on little cards, got loads of rebuttals and clever logical thought, I've thought about how I'm going to manipulate the audience . . . and I think I've done just enough to not look like berk. I'm still bricking it though.

Come Back Johnny B (Johnney B), Wednesday, 26 October 2005 08:57 (twenty years ago)

Aww don't worry, you'll knock em dead I'm sure!

Panther Pink (Pinkpanther), Wednesday, 26 October 2005 08:58 (twenty years ago)

Cheers 4 ur support. It's at 12.30 - I'll go and practise my speech at 11.30, test for timings etc. I'll be fine. I mean, it's no big deal, it's just a bit of fun. People won't tease me, it's not school anymore!

Come Back Johnny B (Johnney B), Wednesday, 26 October 2005 09:00 (twenty years ago)

Don't you hate it when you have irrational mood swings?

Panther Pink (Pinkpanther), Wednesday, 26 October 2005 09:04 (twenty years ago)

Sometimes I do, sometimes I don't.

Come Back Johnny B (Johnney B), Wednesday, 26 October 2005 09:20 (twenty years ago)

Sorry, that was unreasonable. When I have an irrational mood swing, I just try and go zen for half an hour, then I'm fine.

Come Back Johnny B (Johnney B), Wednesday, 26 October 2005 09:21 (twenty years ago)

I don't think my mood swings are particularly irrational. ;-)

Paranoid Spice (kate), Wednesday, 26 October 2005 09:24 (twenty years ago)

If I have an irrational mood swing it's usually cos I'm hungry.

beanz (beanz), Wednesday, 26 October 2005 09:25 (twenty years ago)

That's the great rubbish thing about being Manic Depressive. 90% of my moodswings are pretty much irrational. ;-)

That said, yes, the forgetting to eat thing is quite a bit one.

Paranoid Spice (kate), Wednesday, 26 October 2005 09:27 (twenty years ago)

It's because I feel sick & tired & people are pissing me off, so perhaps it's not irrational after all.

Panther Pink (Pinkpanther), Wednesday, 26 October 2005 09:35 (twenty years ago)

yuk. you were so happy yesterday too.

Ste (Fuzzy), Wednesday, 26 October 2005 09:38 (twenty years ago)

Oh I am still happy about that, just feel a bit you know today?! >:-|

Panther Pink (Pinkpanther), Wednesday, 26 October 2005 09:41 (twenty years ago)

Funny how the conversation always ends up at COOKIES.

beanz (beanz), Wednesday, 26 October 2005 09:41 (twenty years ago)

Cookies? Who brought up cookies? My colleague just gave me a strawberry swiss roll. Mmmm, it was yummy.

Paranoid Spice (kate), Wednesday, 26 October 2005 09:44 (twenty years ago)

i don't think i've ever had a rational moodswing.

g-kit (g-kit), Wednesday, 26 October 2005 09:47 (twenty years ago)

I've just gone from being OK but tired to wanting to hurt the next person that pisses me off! What a fun day it's going to be!

Panther Pink (Pinkpanther), Wednesday, 26 October 2005 09:50 (twenty years ago)

Half an hour to go. Eeeek!

I think I need a cup of tea.

Come Back Johnny B (Johnney B), Wednesday, 26 October 2005 10:00 (twenty years ago)

15 minutes to go, good luck!!

Panther Pink (Pinkpanther), Wednesday, 26 October 2005 10:17 (twenty years ago)

My mood swings are usually for rational reasons, but are irrational in their intensity.

Forest Pines (ForestPines), Wednesday, 26 October 2005 11:11 (twenty years ago)

...I wonder how JB's debate is going...

I feel a lot more rational now that rehearsal is all sorted out. Actually, it means that I can stay late tonight to finish this annoying thing for work that I keep getting hassled about.

And now it's time for lunch!

Paranoid Spice (kate), Wednesday, 26 October 2005 11:18 (twenty years ago)

Hurrah! I've just finished mine - a chicken and stuffing sandwich from Boots.

Forest Pines (ForestPines), Wednesday, 26 October 2005 11:26 (twenty years ago)

I wouldn't trust a sandwich from Boots. I would think it secretly contained codeine or some other analgesic or something!

Paranoid Spice (kate), Wednesday, 26 October 2005 11:28 (twenty years ago)

oop hope the debate was good johnney!

in Boy News, he didn't come to the gig cos he was too drunk (see, shoulda texted 'im earlier, y'all were right) but i did have a very funny and easy conversation with him.

emsk ( emsk), Wednesday, 26 October 2005 11:31 (twenty years ago)

Aw, yeah! Happy to hear that! How were the Organ and Victorians? (That should be a pub name.)

Also... ::shuffles feet:: did you talk to the Belgian and the Belgian's Boyfriend about making sure that the Belgian's Boyfriend's Brother comes to your party?

(Even though I've changed my mind about the whole thing and think that Celibacy is the answer, I still would like to look at him, and pick his brain about Edwardian Architecture and sans serif fonts.)

Paranoid Spice (kate), Wednesday, 26 October 2005 11:35 (twenty years ago)

Hi all! The debate was fine - I won! I had the world's most difficult argument, but they were all won over by my persuasive technique! Yay for me!

Innit sweet how emsk has found a nice boy? Have you txted him back yet? If not, sort it out!

Kate, have you REALLY settled on celibacy, or are you just convincing yourself of that so when you're inevitably(in your mind) get knocked back, it won't matter so much? It's just that "I've changed my mind about the whole thing and think that Celibacy is the answer" is the sort of thing I say to myself when I think I don't have a chance with someone.

Come Back Johnny B (Johnney B), Wednesday, 26 October 2005 11:48 (twenty years ago)

My head's feeling a bit fuzzy, actually, so sandwiches fortified with painkillers sounds like a good idea to me right now.

Forest Pines (ForestPines), Wednesday, 26 October 2005 11:50 (twenty years ago)

Yay for JB and his debating technique! I knew you would be brilliant at it!

No, of course I've not settled on celibacy, it's not like I've taken a vow or anything. But it's just that every time I actually start to even *think* about being attracted to someone, it just stirs up all my awful insecurities. And when I dare to contemplate actually *Being In A Relationship* I just think about how awful it is, and how much I have to squish down inside me and how much I have to pretend not to be myself, and deal with some guy who wants to change/save me, instead of just letting me be myself, warts and all, and accepting me for that, and how much hassle it is Being In A Relationship and how much it hurts when they get sick of you and dump you...

And I just can't be bothered with it all.

However, I really shouldn't be saying such things. I should be saying "Yay for Emsk and the cute boy in Brighton! Hurrah!"

Paranoid Spice (kate), Wednesday, 26 October 2005 11:56 (twenty years ago)

Ha ha! Ha ha! I went upstairs to get chewing gum (bah, except they didn't have any up there in their vending machine - no wonder the bankers are all so fat with all that candy and muck in their vending machine) and saw where the HOTT Boris Johnson lookylike sits, all smouldering away on the phone with his pointy nose and his white-blond forelock. So he *is* a consultant, and not a client! Hurrah!

Paranoid Spice (kate), Wednesday, 26 October 2005 12:12 (twenty years ago)

i think i'm the only person on ILX that doesn't get crushes.

g-kit (g-kit), Wednesday, 26 October 2005 12:22 (twenty years ago)

gig was a bit weird, not as full as it shoulda been and christ, the sound in that venue is fucking awful. never been there before, it just flattened everything out. huh. but the organ will sound better tonight and the victorians will sound better on friday.

kate i talked to the belgian, and tgl and his brother just don't talk about That Sort Of Thing. i am meant to write a press release for the party but ARGH stuff to do!

johnney please don't call me sweet! i will bite your nose off, grr! well done for winning though!

i haven't texted him back but yeah i should. yesterday on the train i was quite aaah, maybe i won't, it's prob not real anyway... but then talking to him was really good so i was glad i did even though he didn't come out and play. and he sent an eversocomplimentary text. (hm, he was trashed, mind.)

emsk ( emsk), Wednesday, 26 October 2005 12:30 (twenty years ago)

Well done for winning!

Panther Pink (Pinkpanther), Wednesday, 26 October 2005 12:34 (twenty years ago)

"Don't talk about these things!" ?!??! All I wanted him to do was bring his brother along on Saturday. And clearly they talk about THOSE kinds of things, or else TFL wouldn't have been on the walk at the weekend - it must have been his brother that invited him to that because I certainly didn't.

Sigh. This is just far too complicated. I would just like to email him and ask him what he thinks of the Brighton Pavilion and its amazing iron support palms, but I suspect it's been too long.

Paranoid Spice (kate), Wednesday, 26 October 2005 12:48 (twenty years ago)

Eversocomplimentary text when drunk? Ah, but boys are more likely to speak THE TRUTH when drunk and not being all silly and staring at their shoes cause they're scared of girls.

Paranoid Spice (kate), Wednesday, 26 October 2005 12:49 (twenty years ago)

don't talk about Girl Things! i'm sure they talk about Typography Things and Architecture Things and Other Things. anyway he is getting invited, possibly by four different people.

hm, perhaps.

emsk ( emsk), Wednesday, 26 October 2005 12:54 (twenty years ago)

Afternoon all! I need you regular FAPPERS help. Which pubs will let you hire out rooms for a private party for free? I know you guys do this quite a lot. Any ideas? Ideally we would like to be able to play our own music too.

Panther Pink (Pinkpanther), Wednesday, 26 October 2005 13:56 (twenty years ago)

Errr... I think most pubs will let you do this, so long as it's not a busy night. I haven't done it in ages - I think the ILX FAPpers are quite fond of the Calthorpe Arms but don't know if that charges. You can book the GHS downstairs but they don't let you play your own music. I don't think. What neighbourhood are you looking to do it in?

Might be better to ask on the current FAP thread, as they will have had more recent experience?

Paranoid Spice (kate), Wednesday, 26 October 2005 13:58 (twenty years ago)

Yeah I didn't really want to venture into another fap thread tbh. I don't really mind where it is. We were looking for a weekend night, is this possible do you think? Maybe say 80 people.

Panther Pink (Pinkpanther), Wednesday, 26 October 2005 14:10 (twenty years ago)

I've just given the nice temp the URL of my blog. Please tell me this wasn't as bad an idea as it sounds.

Forest Pines (ForestPines), Wednesday, 26 October 2005 14:59 (twenty years ago)

Does it link to ILE?

Panther Pink (Pinkpanther), Wednesday, 26 October 2005 15:02 (twenty years ago)

Then we will all go and investigate.

Yay good stuff and nice things for all! Even Girl Things, regardless of audience. Now, can someone e-mail me a cure for my headache? Too kind.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 26 October 2005 15:05 (twenty years ago)

Yes, I would echo the "don't let her get onto ILX!!!" sentiment. Maybe you should post a link to your blog here and then we can all meddle in your life check out to see if it's OK.

Dammit, I hope if enough people invite him, he will make it to the party. "Come to a party! It will be fun! There will be booze, and silly costumes, and cool people... and you will get laid!" Honestly, shouldn't that be enough of an incentive?

Paranoid Spice (kate), Wednesday, 26 October 2005 15:34 (twenty years ago)

Hah, I've posted so many links to my blog that I thought it would be slightly rude to post another. It does indeed link to ILE.

Forest Pines (ForestPines), Wednesday, 26 October 2005 16:24 (twenty years ago)

DUDE!!!

The first post is about her!!!!!

That's so... ARGH! If a guy I knew gave me a link to his blog and the first post was about me, I'd think he was totally a creepy stalker. (Unless it was totally obvious that he'd written it after giving me the link, in a "Hi, Kate!" sort of way.)

Paranoid Spice (kate), Wednesday, 26 October 2005 16:28 (twenty years ago)

Well, that *is* totally obvious, isn't it?

Forest Pines (ForestPines), Wednesday, 26 October 2005 16:33 (twenty years ago)

Yeah, but you're like... DISCUSSING HER in the post that you link to.

Paranoid Spice (kate), Wednesday, 26 October 2005 16:38 (twenty years ago)

Ha ha, my colleagues are going to this big Mortgage Industry black tie schmoozy thing tonight - I mentioned to one of them that an ex boyfriend would probably be there. So he offered to punch him for me if he was smaller than him! Tee hee.

Paranoid Spice (kate), Wednesday, 26 October 2005 16:39 (twenty years ago)

I'm not, am I? As far as I can tell, the only thing I do is say what sort of jobs she gets given to do.

Forest Pines (ForestPines), Wednesday, 26 October 2005 16:40 (twenty years ago)

Good morning
Another late night at work yesterday, ick. And too busy to post all afternoon, which is worse.
Glad yr debate went well JB

beanz (beanz), Thursday, 27 October 2005 07:09 (twenty years ago)

i think giving the URL of your blog to a crush is a very silly thing to do. your only hope is to delete the internet. (edit > select all > delete)

g-kit (g-kit), Thursday, 27 October 2005 07:16 (twenty years ago)

She's getting less of a crush as time goes on, to be quite frank. Especially as she keeps going on about a spiritual self-help book that I really ought to read because it's completely changed her outlook on life.

Forest Pines (ForestPines), Thursday, 27 October 2005 07:22 (twenty years ago)

delete her.

g-kit (g-kit), Thursday, 27 October 2005 07:30 (twenty years ago)

or flag her as 'read only'.

g-kit (g-kit), Thursday, 27 October 2005 08:09 (twenty years ago)

i made a similar mistake of letting a girlfriend read my blog. It didn't take much longer for the thing to be deleted

Ste (Fuzzy), Thursday, 27 October 2005 08:12 (twenty years ago)

see? i have wisdom.

g-kit (g-kit), Thursday, 27 October 2005 08:12 (twenty years ago)

I got my shoes!!!!
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v510/Pinxor/Trainers/NikeID6.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v510/Pinxor/Trainers/NikeID2.jpg

Panther Pink (Pinkpanther), Thursday, 27 October 2005 08:17 (twenty years ago)

them's some l33t pumps, yo.

g-kit (g-kit), Thursday, 27 October 2005 08:18 (twenty years ago)

ooh nice

beanz (beanz), Thursday, 27 October 2005 08:52 (twenty years ago)

Bah, I've just had an idiot manager call me "a snotty little shit with attitude" and slam the phone down, then call my boss up to complain.

Forest Pines (ForestPines), Thursday, 27 October 2005 08:56 (twenty years ago)

(my boss's response to me was "I know you can't do anything about his problems, but you have to make him think you're trying to fix it." Yes, but I've been doing that for six months now, and he doesn't listen to anything I tell him anyway.

The idiot's strategy when his Important Application crashes, incidentally, is to wait half an hour, then reboot his computer (using the mains switch at the wall). A few days later he'll phone me and say "[The Application] was stuck on the egg timer for half an hour the other day! When are you going to fix it?" Mysteriously, when I go over to his office, there are never any crashes when I am there.

Forest Pines (ForestPines), Thursday, 27 October 2005 09:10 (twenty years ago)

Idiot Managers are terrible - I've got one two. But I don't wanna badmouth.

It's great when cruches become less of a crush when you realise how facile the crushee is. The gal who I had a crush on upthread (or was it on the last thread) I've since realised is an ignorant buffoon, so crush gone, and me feeling slightly smug.

Come Back Johnny B (Johnney B), Thursday, 27 October 2005 09:31 (twenty years ago)

the irony is, she probably had a crush on you too, but now she thinks you're a smug twat.

(ps big joke, don't hate me)

g-kit (g-kit), Thursday, 27 October 2005 09:33 (twenty years ago)

I don't hate you. The big sitcom that is my life would make more sense with that as the episode punchline.

Come Back Johnny B (Johnney B), Thursday, 27 October 2005 09:37 (twenty years ago)

you smug twat.

g-kit (g-kit), Thursday, 27 October 2005 09:37 (twenty years ago)

*cue audience laughter and closing credits*

Come Back Johnny B (Johnney B), Thursday, 27 October 2005 09:39 (twenty years ago)

(lock thread)

g-kit (g-kit), Thursday, 27 October 2005 09:39 (twenty years ago)

Ohmigod, those are amazing shoes! Pink, those are even better than I thought they would be.

Bah, idiot managers. Bah, crushes. (I wrote mine last night but he did not write me back.) Bah, doctors, I have a new whack of medication I have to take now which means I can't drink today or tomorrow.

Bah bah bah. :-(

Ah well, I am going to look at a house on Saturday. A house I can afford! Except it has an offer in on it already which means I probably won't get it, even if my offer is better. And it's probably not even a real person who wants to buy it but some property developer who will buy it and ruin it and then try to rent it to me for loads of money.

Paranoid Spice (kate), Thursday, 27 October 2005 09:48 (twenty years ago)

Ha ha! I've just found out that if I get a mortgage through my employer, then I get the commission on it! Hurrah!

Paranoid Spice (kate), Thursday, 27 October 2005 10:23 (twenty years ago)

Nice. Maybe you can sort me one too and get that commission :)

Markelby (Mark C), Thursday, 27 October 2005 10:24 (twenty years ago)

Honestly, Mark - do you want one? Come on in! I've got the inside line on who's good upstairs (in the banking department), am going to go up and meet him later today.

Paranoid Spice (kate), Thursday, 27 October 2005 10:27 (twenty years ago)

I do need to remortgage, yes, but I really need to speak to an IFA first about my finances, pensions etc. in general. God I hate all this crap.

Markelby (Mark C), Thursday, 27 October 2005 10:38 (twenty years ago)

We *ARE* an IFA. We are the best IFA in the country, naturally. OK, we don't do pensions, but we do mortgages, insurance and that kind of thing. I hate this crap, but that's why I'm getting one of my colleagues to do it *for* me. (Because they're always making me do their crap.)

Paranoid Spice (kate), Thursday, 27 October 2005 10:43 (twenty years ago)

Well, if you can recommend one I'd be happy to speak to them!

Markelby (Mark C), Thursday, 27 October 2005 10:50 (twenty years ago)

Email me off board, Mark, and when I talk to one of my colleagues, I will get you his email address and send it to you.

Paranoid Spice (kate), Thursday, 27 October 2005 10:52 (twenty years ago)

Ha ha, speaking of which, one came downstairs looking for a blank CD, so I sorted him out under the condition that he sort me out a mortgage! I got me an IFA through bribery!

Paranoid Spice (kate), Thursday, 27 October 2005 10:55 (twenty years ago)

i have a stock of cookies for the very same reason.

g-kit (g-kit), Thursday, 27 October 2005 11:00 (twenty years ago)

I have a stock of Frazzles for that same very same reason.

Come Back Johnny B (Johnney B), Thursday, 27 October 2005 11:10 (twenty years ago)

I'm sure it's possibly illegal. Like when I used to tell Securities traders that I would process their due dilligence reports in order of whoever sent me over the nicest coffee from Bloomingdales. But, still. I had the most amazing cinnamon hazlenut coffee on a regular basis!

Paranoid Spice (kate), Thursday, 27 October 2005 11:16 (twenty years ago)

Legality is a very flexible concept.

Come Back Johnny B (Johnney B), Thursday, 27 October 2005 11:17 (twenty years ago)

I have a stock of Razzles.

bah xpost :(

Onimo (GerryNemo), Thursday, 27 October 2005 11:18 (twenty years ago)

Sorry.

Come Back Johnny B (Johnney B), Thursday, 27 October 2005 11:27 (twenty years ago)

Aww thanks guys! Kate, I will need to remortgage at some point, so I'd like a healping hand from your lot. Not for a while though. Tell us about the house darl!

Panther Pink (Pinkpanther), Thursday, 27 October 2005 11:35 (twenty years ago)

It is a very very cute Victorian row house on Streatham Hill, studio with itty bitty cute kitchen and somewhat scummy bathroom. Needs love and attention, but I have some to spare. Big front room studio living space with a huge bay window (for my plants).

We have an office in Cambridge, PinX0r, so let me know when your rate rolls over.

Paranoid Spice (kate), Thursday, 27 October 2005 11:38 (twenty years ago)

(If indeed I'm still working for this place then!)

Paranoid Spice (kate), Thursday, 27 October 2005 11:39 (twenty years ago)

Sounds perfect for you Kate, enough room for a house guest now & again i hope! ;-)

Will do. I was trying to be positive you know! :-)

Panther Pink (Pinkpanther), Thursday, 27 October 2005 11:44 (twenty years ago)

Back from my meeting. :-)

Ha ha, they're really going to give me all that money? FULES!!!

Paranoid Spice (kate), Thursday, 27 October 2005 13:04 (twenty years ago)

i got a mortgage too. boggles the mind, no?

g-kit (g-kit), Thursday, 27 October 2005 13:05 (twenty years ago)

I don't want a mortgage, I wouldn't trust myself. "Nah, I won't spend it all on a house, here's my new speedboat!"

Come Back Johnny B (Johnney B), Thursday, 27 October 2005 13:37 (twenty years ago)

Mortgages aren't so scary, I've had one over a year now!

Panther Pink (Pinkpanther), Thursday, 27 October 2005 13:46 (twenty years ago)

It's just the idea that I get to pay my monthly rent, and instead of that disappearing into a black hole, I get to KEEP it, albeit in this weird theoretical financial sense. But I can use that money in a few years afterwards.

Paranoid Spice (kate), Thursday, 27 October 2005 13:56 (twenty years ago)

Having your own house rules, apart from when things go wrong.

Panther Pink (Pinkpanther), Thursday, 27 October 2005 14:06 (twenty years ago)

BLINKIN' 'ECK!!!

I just got email from my mum about getting help with my deposit. (She is going to give me her inheritance as a down payment.) No wonder she wouldn't let me have it unless I was getting a house! It's twice what I was expecting! GET IN!

That's what was holding me back - fear of not having a down payment. First I find out today that I get a mortgage with a 5% down payment, and now I find out that I will actually be able to get 10% after all!

Paranoid Spice (kate), Thursday, 27 October 2005 14:09 (twenty years ago)

Awww that's good news Kate!

Panther Pink (Pinkpanther), Thursday, 27 October 2005 14:20 (twenty years ago)

Good stuff Kate! Big Xmas pressie for mum :)

I guess you can see it as your mortgage payment is half rent and half your own, seeing as the average mortgage requires repayment of double the original sum lent. Still preferable though!

So, pensions. What's a good one?

Markelby (Mark C), Thursday, 27 October 2005 14:33 (twenty years ago)

No, I'm going for as short a mortgage term as possible in order to cut down on the bloody interest repayments - was looking at a nice line in 15 year repayment plans, and will get it down to 10 years if I can afford it! Which means I keep 60 to 75 percent of the money I put in. Regardless, it's still better than keeping NONE OF IT as you do with rent.

Pensions? I know nothing of this. Sorry!

Paranoid Spice (kate), Thursday, 27 October 2005 14:37 (twenty years ago)

argh pensions. i should really delve back into my company's pension plan, it would only be £50 a month. if i was a better person i would anyway.

Ste (Fuzzy), Thursday, 27 October 2005 14:46 (twenty years ago)

Someone explain Basil Brush to me.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 27 October 2005 14:52 (twenty years ago)

Ned, you're more of a anglophile than any of us, I'm sure you know everything there is to know!

Markelby (Mark C), Thursday, 27 October 2005 14:55 (twenty years ago)

Sorry! I can explain mortgages, protection products, indemnity, fixed and variable rates, valuations, etc. But Basil Brush? No explanation for that!

Paranoid Spice (kate), Thursday, 27 October 2005 14:56 (twenty years ago)

Ned, you're more of a anglophile than any of us, I'm sure you know everything there is to know!

I only finally saw an episode when I was over there -- while I was in the Netherlands, oddly enough -- and I was truly baffled.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 27 October 2005 15:16 (twenty years ago)

bah, housemates were in the kitchen during my slot again this morning so I didn't get breakfast and am nibbling sammiches at work.

BRILLIANT rehearsal last night - Marianna is working out great, and we are sounding so good - in fact, some songs actually sound even better than they did before!

Trying desperately to think of a costume for tomorrow night.

Paranoid Spice (kate), Friday, 28 October 2005 06:49 (twenty years ago)

Go as an elephant.

Come Back Johnny B (Johnney B), Friday, 28 October 2005 06:51 (twenty years ago)

Or the Elephant Man.

Come Back Johnny B (Johnney B), Friday, 28 October 2005 06:51 (twenty years ago)

Or a man.

Come Back Johnny B (Johnney B), Friday, 28 October 2005 06:51 (twenty years ago)

Or you could wear that cool new skirt you've got, that would work.

Come Back Johnny B (Johnney B), Friday, 28 October 2005 06:52 (twenty years ago)

It has to be a Myth or a Legend.

What cool new skirt?

Paranoid Spice (kate), Friday, 28 October 2005 06:54 (twenty years ago)

my word, i feel sick as a dog today. i was fighting against severe nausea all night, and it has carried over to this morning. when i did managed to grab a little sleep, i had the wierdest, freakiest nightmares. very vivid - when i awoke, i had that "ew, thank god it was a dream" feeling. i'm still fairly disturbed by it all.

meow :(

but my pirate socks have arrived, yay.

g-kit (g-kit), Friday, 28 October 2005 06:54 (twenty years ago)

Elephant Man is pretty mythic. And I thought ALL women had an item of clothing that they've recently bought, really like, and hasn't worn yet. However, this may be a broad-brushed stereotype, so ignore me until I've had another cup of tea - I brain hasn't fully emerged from the pool of dazedness yet.

Quesy dreams are the worst. I don't mind scary dreams (they're quite good fun) but ones where you feel physically sick when you wake up are horrible, like the dream was so real that it's got a real-life manifestation. Ug.

Come Back Johnny B (Johnney B), Friday, 28 October 2005 06:57 (twenty years ago)

I have a skirt that I haven't worn yet, but I haven't worn it because it's a bit rubbish.

Ugh, nausea is horrible. I'm so sorry, G. I thought I would have it because I took antibiotics on an empty stomach last night, but I guess I was just so tired I slept through it, and only had a tad of the vomitty feeling this morning.

Paranoid Spice (kate), Friday, 28 October 2005 07:01 (twenty years ago)

Nausea does indeed suck, you have my sypathies dude. Try eating some ginger (stem/biscuits/or whatever you can find really) or drinking some ginger tea. I had an awful dream last night. I dreamt that I was out with some friends with J too & he started flirting with this girl & when I said he was out of order, he did nothing. The girl told me I should move out & then when I told him to sort himself out, he went to leave with this girl. Then I woke up. It really upset me because you carry those feelings over. It's odd though, because I have these dreams quite a lot & I have absolutely no insecurity or trust issues with J & I know it gets to him when I tell him about them.

Kate - I am so pleased for you! *hugglez*

Panther Pink (Pinkpanther), Friday, 28 October 2005 07:23 (twenty years ago)

That sounds like a horrible dream, Pink! I hate that sort of thing. I mean, honestly, you can't control what you dream, but it is where the things that you suppress during the day come out to play. I still have dreams about Joe, about jealousy, and confronting him for what he did to me. And it's awful, it leaves me unsettled for days.

Atheist of Love (kate), Friday, 28 October 2005 07:42 (twenty years ago)

ARGH ARGH ARGH ARGH ARGH.

Have just had a massive row with my mum. Ringing me at 4 in the morning her time to hassle me about my housebuying.

If getting money off her gives her to hassle me for the rest of my life, then I don't want it. I will save up the money, even if it takes me ten years, and I will buy MY OWN HOUSE and she will not be setting foot in it.

She just rang me up to harrang me about the fact that I lived off my trust fund for several years instead of investing it, and is refusing to give me money for a deposit for fear I'll do the same thing again.

And is just shouting at me that I'm irresponsible and don't know how to handle a mortgage or the costs involved, when for gods sake I HANDLE MORTGAGES FOR A LIVING. I'm just unspeakably angry.

it's like... this money comes with the strings attached that she gets to shout at me and harrang me over things I did five years ago that were NOTHING TO DO WITH HER.

Atheist of Love (kate), Friday, 28 October 2005 07:52 (twenty years ago)

Yeah I know, but I really am not conscious of any thoughts or fears of J running off with another girl soon! The worst part of these dreams is that it makes me think about this kind of scenario. :-(
X-post

Oh no, that's awful. Still I would take the cash & not answer your phone for a bit. Either that or jst try to explain to her that this is what you want to do & that it would be really helpful if she could trust you to be adult about this.

Panther Pink (Pinkpanther), Friday, 28 October 2005 07:55 (twenty years ago)

I'm just too angry about this to talk to her right now, but I don't get the cash if I don't sort it out.

I feel like saying - either you trust me, or you don't. I'm buying a house either way. If you give me the money, it can happen now, in good time, and I will get a better deal. If you don't want to help me, then go fuck yourself.

But I am stressed enough over this, and hassling me makes thing worse, not better.

Atheist of Love (kate), Friday, 28 October 2005 08:05 (twenty years ago)

Now she's being all NICE-NICE in emails and telling me that she's trying to "help" me.

How does freaking hassling me and nagging me and casting aspersions on my ability to run my own finances, and threatening to withdraw funding without which I cannot make an offer on a house, HELP me?

Argh, she has the ability to wind me up like no one else in this world.

Atheist of Love (kate), Friday, 28 October 2005 08:18 (twenty years ago)

Mum's are good at that. by "help you" she means "makes sure you don't do anything stupid, since you've got a rubbish track record." Whenever I ask my parents for anything, I get a similar talk. I always deal with it by turning into a 15yr old - "Yes mum, I will mum, you're right mum, I won't do it again."

Come Back Johnny B (Johnney B), Friday, 28 October 2005 08:32 (twenty years ago)

It's difficult cos mums sometimes see their offsprings as kids, even when they're over 30! I think you need to take some time away from it & come back & calmly tell her (email may be best) what you just said, but without the go fuck yourself bit.

Panther Pink (Pinkpanther), Friday, 28 October 2005 08:36 (twenty years ago)

Parents are rubbish. Why can't we just hatch out of pods?

That's essentially what I did, Pink. Bah.

Can't seem to get started/motivated now, because that just started me off on SO the wrong foot. I need to ask her not to call me at work. I don't understand what she was doing up at that time of the morning - it was about 4am in the States.

Atheist of Love (kate), Friday, 28 October 2005 09:03 (twenty years ago)

There have been 15 instances of the word RUBBISH on this thread so far. Considering we're all such shiny positive people, this can't be good.

Come Back Johnny B (Johnney B), Friday, 28 October 2005 09:07 (twenty years ago)

Aww Kate, that's ARGHGHGHGH.

marianna lcl (marianna lcl), Friday, 28 October 2005 09:09 (twenty years ago)

After filling out Lex's long questionnaire on our blog (M, do you want to do blogger as well?) I feel a lot better.

And I was trying to be in such a good mood after last night's brilliance.

(there, I have used the word Brilliant in this post, but not Rubbish. Is that better?)

((D'oh!))

Atheist of Love (kate), Friday, 28 October 2005 09:11 (twenty years ago)

Argh I feel rubbish, I'm sorry! :-(

Panther Pink (Pinkpanther), Friday, 28 October 2005 09:13 (twenty years ago)

Sure, why not? I am so psyched about Shimura after last night.

Aww Pink, hugs!

marianna lcl (marianna lcl), Friday, 28 October 2005 09:16 (twenty years ago)

OK, I have invited you now.

Aw, Pink, sorry... ::offers some ginger snaps::

Atheist of Love (kate), Friday, 28 October 2005 09:18 (twenty years ago)

Cheers girls! I need them both today. Work is really getting me down as my current spate of scattyness has led me to make loads of mistakes. My boss is cool, it's just that it adds work to the neverending list of stuff to do. :-(
Oh & btw Shimura ladeez, any chance of a cd of your stuff, I think a mathematical girl band could be just what i need at the moment!

Panther Pink (Pinkpanther), Friday, 28 October 2005 09:25 (twenty years ago)

Wicked! I might introduce myself by way of that questionnaire.

marianna lcl (marianna lcl), Friday, 28 October 2005 09:26 (twenty years ago)

::knocks head against knuckles::

I did make you a CD a few weeks ago, Pink, but forgot to mail it amidst all the housemate horror! Will do so tomorrow, hopefully.

x-post, excellent!

Atheist of Love (kate), Friday, 28 October 2005 09:27 (twenty years ago)

Aww thanks darl! *mwah*

Panther Pink (Pinkpanther), Friday, 28 October 2005 09:33 (twenty years ago)

Hrrmmm. I am hungry and craving something but cannot figure out exactly what. Don't want any more coffee - in fact, I've had too much as it's leaving a vaguely metallic aftertaste in my mouth.

Might be the antibiotics. Don't know. I'll drink some water and see if that helps.

Atheist of Love (kate), Friday, 28 October 2005 09:35 (twenty years ago)

Are there mp3s available? I'd love to hear one.

Markelby (Mark C), Friday, 28 October 2005 09:47 (twenty years ago)

MP3s of the demos are here:

http://www.myspace.com/shimuracurves

(I must warn that it is only me singing on those demos - we will be getting around to recording versions with all of us singing when Marianna has learned all the songs and, erm, I've sorted out my living situation.)

Atheist of Love (kate), Friday, 28 October 2005 09:50 (twenty years ago)

Someone has just made cheese on toast in the kitchen, making me realise that what I am hungry for, really, is CHEESE ON TOAST!!!

Atheist of Love (kate), Friday, 28 October 2005 09:58 (twenty years ago)

I saw the new Wallace and Gromit film the other week, and it must have been sponsored by the Cheese Marketing Board because ever since then I've had a hankering for cheese. I consumed a massive chunk of Double Gloucester with Chives last night, and bloody gorgeous it was too.

Come Back Johnny B (Johnney B), Friday, 28 October 2005 10:10 (twenty years ago)

Sod the hummus, at lunch, I'm getting a grilled hallumi sammich to fulfill my craving for CHEESE.

Atheist of Love (kate), Friday, 28 October 2005 10:21 (twenty years ago)

hallumi is the king of cheeses.

g-kit (g-kit), Friday, 28 October 2005 10:23 (twenty years ago)

I fancy something supremly fatty for lunch - I might have a burger king. Or failing that, I could go to tescos and buy one of those cheese dinner packs - with chedder and pickle and cheese crackers in, only £1.58 for 4.

Come Back Johnny B (Johnney B), Friday, 28 October 2005 10:29 (twenty years ago)

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Come Back Johnny B (Johnney B), Friday, 28 October 2005 10:30 (twenty years ago)

I am probably spelling it wrong. But it is lovely Eastern Mediterranean squeaky cheese.

Atheist of Love (kate), Friday, 28 October 2005 10:30 (twenty years ago)

Johnny, try http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haloumi

The Vintner's Lipogram (OleM), Friday, 28 October 2005 10:36 (twenty years ago)

grill it, eat it, order it in bulk. repeat.

g-kit (g-kit), Friday, 28 October 2005 10:40 (twenty years ago)

Cheres for the link.

It is also Russell Lissack's (of Bloc Party) favourite type of cheese.

Wikipedia is brilliant at random facts you didn't want to know.

So haloumi is good for cooking eh? I think I may have found something extra tasty to go with my sausages . . .

Come Back Johnny B (Johnney B), Friday, 28 October 2005 10:41 (twenty years ago)

I didn't know it was goat and sheep milk - no WONDER it is such a thing of tasty delight.

Atheist of Love (kate), Friday, 28 October 2005 10:42 (twenty years ago)

you'll probably find it replacing your sauages, tbh.

g-kit (g-kit), Friday, 28 October 2005 10:42 (twenty years ago)

x-post - it's like paneer in that it keeps its substance and texture, even when cooked. So it's a good cooking/grilling cheese.

::drools with anticipation of lunch::

Atheist of Love (kate), Friday, 28 October 2005 10:42 (twenty years ago)

Haloumi is perfect on the BBQ! Lovely, squeaky, salty goodness!

Panther Pink (Pinkpanther), Friday, 28 October 2005 10:47 (twenty years ago)

OMGWTFBBQ!

g-kit (g-kit), Friday, 28 October 2005 10:49 (twenty years ago)

pieces of grilled Halloumi on a bit of toasted white bread w/tomatoes on top is just about the tastiest thing ever.

Pashmina (Pashmina), Friday, 28 October 2005 10:51 (twenty years ago)

I can wait no longer. I am getting the halloumi now!

Atheist of Love (kate), Friday, 28 October 2005 10:51 (twenty years ago)

I want to want haloumi, but I feel sick! :-(

Don't have kittens G!

Panther Pink (Pinkpanther), Friday, 28 October 2005 11:01 (twenty years ago)

i feel sick, but if someone piled up like 6 pounds of haloumi in front of me, i'd still pwn it all. and i'm skipping lunch cos i still feel rough. bah.

g-kit (g-kit), Friday, 28 October 2005 11:04 (twenty years ago)

I feel slightly sick, and that metallic aftertaste in my mouth will not go away, but I would have to be on death's door not to eat Halloumi.

Plus, I have got carrot cake, as well! Hurrah!

Atheist of Love (kate), Friday, 28 October 2005 11:05 (twenty years ago)

Ohmigod, I just bought tickets for BAUHAUS!!! at the Brixton Academy. The show isn't until February, but my bestest friend from NYC says that she might fly out for it! She's never been to England before! This is so exciting!

Plus, well... Bauhaus! David J was one of my earliest crushes.

Atheist of Love (kate), Friday, 28 October 2005 11:41 (twenty years ago)

I'd forgotten how much fun live music was until I went to see Brakes the other night. I must visit the Zodiac more.

Come Back Johnny B (Johnney B), Friday, 28 October 2005 12:12 (twenty years ago)

BAUHAUSBAUHAUSBAUHAUS!!!

Sorry, I'm too excited. Can't stop bouncing.

Atheist of Love (kate), Friday, 28 October 2005 12:14 (twenty years ago)

Doesn't that make you nauseous?

Come Back Johnny B (Johnney B), Friday, 28 October 2005 12:21 (twenty years ago)

No, I've got chewing gum for the motion sickness.

Atheist of Love (kate), Friday, 28 October 2005 12:22 (twenty years ago)

Oh, I neglected to mention that I finally received an invitation to this party which is on Saturday - and TGL is indeed on the invitation. I was bad and looked to see the if there was a site to accompany the email address, since it was different from the one on his card. And discovered his website and and his blog. Oh dear.

His blog is not personal at all, it's all about type. As is his website, which just kind of confirms his astonishing intelligence in my mind.

Anyway, we shall see, tomorrow, if he turns up.

Atheist of Love (kate), Friday, 28 October 2005 12:31 (twenty years ago)

haha kate omg you big STALKER

Ste (Fuzzy), Friday, 28 October 2005 12:34 (twenty years ago)

I know, it's utterly apalling, and I'm so ashamed of myself. :-(

Atheist of Love (kate), Friday, 28 October 2005 12:35 (twenty years ago)

I mean, it's not like I googled him...

::restrains self::

Atheist of Love (kate), Friday, 28 October 2005 12:35 (twenty years ago)

Oh, you SO have.

And if not, why not?

Come Back Johnny B (Johnney B), Friday, 28 October 2005 12:36 (twenty years ago)

I haven't googled him. Because I think it's rude. I don't know. Maybe I should. But then I would feel *terrible*.

Atheist of Love (kate), Friday, 28 October 2005 12:39 (twenty years ago)

Googling people isn't rude - if they put stuff on the net the info is public domain, surely? I have no compunction googling people, and I don't mind if people google me.

Come Back Johnny B (Johnney B), Friday, 28 October 2005 12:41 (twenty years ago)

OK, in that case...

Atheist of Love (kate), Friday, 28 October 2005 12:42 (twenty years ago)

You won't find anything interesting on me, kate. If ONLY I had a life worth documenting on the infobahn . . .

Come Back Johnny B (Johnney B), Friday, 28 October 2005 12:45 (twenty years ago)

i google people all the time. but if someone says they found something from google about me i'm all "why you sneaky sonovabitch!"

Ste (Fuzzy), Friday, 28 October 2005 12:45 (twenty years ago)

I am very hard to google, myself.

Forest Pines (ForestPines), Friday, 28 October 2005 12:47 (twenty years ago)

Ohmygod, I wish I hadn't done that. :-(

(Googled TGL, not you, JB.)

I found lots more of his types (his most common one truly is lovely - it looks a bit like the Prisoner font. But how can you say that to a boy without sounding terrible - I think your font is lovely?) but I also found his flicker account and there is the most beautiful photo of him - riding a horse, dressed as Lawrence of Arabia.

Atheist of Love (kate), Friday, 28 October 2005 12:47 (twenty years ago)

his most common one truly is lovely - it looks a bit like the Prisoner font

Oooh, can you give us a link to it? I love the Prisoner font.

(I can understand why you might not want to, though)

Forest Pines (ForestPines), Friday, 28 October 2005 12:50 (twenty years ago)

photo of him - riding a horse, dressed as Lawrence of Arabia.

I sense a fanfic coming on . . .

Come Back Johnny B (Johnney B), Friday, 28 October 2005 12:52 (twenty years ago)

OH NO, MY HOUSE HAS SOLD!!!

Bah. :-(

Atheist of Love (kate), Friday, 28 October 2005 12:54 (twenty years ago)

Oh, jolly bad luck old bean. There's plenty more bricks in the estate . . .

Come Back Johnny B (Johnney B), Friday, 28 October 2005 12:55 (twenty years ago)

X-post, I would *never* write fan fict about someone I know. NEVER.

I have trouble even writing fan fict about pop stars after I've met them. It's just too weird.

Forest, google the typeface "Puritan". Please no links back to here if you find anything, as I don't want trackbacks.

Atheist of Love (kate), Friday, 28 October 2005 12:57 (twenty years ago)

Ta. No, I didn't think you'd want him finding this place somehow.

Forest Pines (ForestPines), Friday, 28 October 2005 12:58 (twenty years ago)

Oh no Kate, keep looking though! It might fall through yet, there's always hope!!

Panther Pink (Pinkpanther), Friday, 28 October 2005 13:00 (twenty years ago)

Bah and double bah. They asked if I wanted to look at a one bed, but it was way out of my price range. I'm never going to find a house. :-(

Let alone a beautiful boy with a beautiful brain like his. :-((((

Atheist of Love (kate), Friday, 28 October 2005 13:01 (twenty years ago)

When do I get to go home?

That weird metallic taste in my mouth won't go away. :-(

Atheist of Love (kate), Friday, 28 October 2005 14:47 (twenty years ago)

I get to go home in TWELVE MINUTES! Woo!

Forest Pines (ForestPines), Friday, 28 October 2005 14:48 (twenty years ago)

Forty minutes for me. Bah.

Atheist of Love (kate), Friday, 28 October 2005 14:50 (twenty years ago)

Actually, I have a nagging feeling that, because The Co-Worker took a half-day, I should maybe stop an extra half-hour. However, I came in at my normal time, so I really don't feel like stopping late.

Forest Pines (ForestPines), Friday, 28 October 2005 14:52 (twenty years ago)

I'm off home now, so have lovely w/e's all of you,see you Monday! xxx

Panther Pink (Pinkpanther), Friday, 28 October 2005 14:53 (twenty years ago)

have a good weekend, Pink!

FP, there is no excuse for having to work late because of others. NOne.

Atheist of Love (kate), Friday, 28 October 2005 14:54 (twenty years ago)

enjoyed this afternoon at work. for once i haven't been clock watching, and got some stuff cleared up.

off now, night all.

Ste (Fuzzy), Friday, 28 October 2005 14:55 (twenty years ago)

Well, normally, he comes in an hour later than me and works an hour later. So, when one of us is off, we split the difference; if he's off, I come in half an hour late and work later.

Forest Pines (ForestPines), Friday, 28 October 2005 14:57 (twenty years ago)

I don't know why I'm hanging around clockwatching - it's not like I have anything to do. Well, nothing that I could actually *finish* in the last half hour of the day, at least.

I might go and stalk some more.

Atheist of Love (kate), Friday, 28 October 2005 14:59 (twenty years ago)

Ha ha, I just googled myself and found that I have volunteered on MatesAhoy to be a sailor! It wasn't me, I swear! But I'll take any ships she's offered!

Atheist of Love (kate), Friday, 28 October 2005 15:05 (twenty years ago)

OK, I am going to try to be positive and have even changed my name in order to stop being a love atheist and I will try to have a good time at the party tomorrow, whether he turns up or not.

Bah, my tummy is all bloated and my department has decided to all go home NOW.

We might force K8 to change her name to Marie. (kate), Friday, 28 October 2005 15:29 (twenty years ago)

You'll have fun, Kate. I like the sound of this chap.

Markelby (Mark C), Friday, 28 October 2005 15:47 (twenty years ago)

Here's a question for you about football - could you have a relationship with a man who loved it, and went to matches every week?

Markelby (Mark C), Friday, 28 October 2005 15:47 (twenty years ago)

Morning, folks. Some interesting developments over the weekend... more on them in a moment.

Here's a question for you about football - could you have a relationship with a man who loved it, and went to matches every week?

No. I don't think that I could. I don't think that I could have a relationship with a born-again Christian, a fundamentalist, or a member of the |3NP, or a member of any other groups whose beliefs severely contradicted my own, either.

But anyway...

We might force K8 to change her name to Marie. (kate), Monday, 31 October 2005 09:24 (twenty years ago)

My weekend was comprised of ironing and cooking.

Come Back Johnny B (Johnney B), Monday, 31 October 2005 09:26 (twenty years ago)

Actually, to be honest, I really don't think that this thread is the place for discussion of the topic that Mark broached - it might make a good thread in its own right, though.

My weekend was mainly spent looking at flats. Blimey.

We might force K8 to change her name to Marie. (kate), Monday, 31 October 2005 09:27 (twenty years ago)

Oh, and I was invited to a Halloween party on Saturday night, but the girl upthread WHO I DON'T HAVE A CRUSH ON ANYMORE was going as a "sexy devil", and that was the last thing I needed, so I stayed in and watched QI instead.

Come Back Johnny B (Johnney B), Monday, 31 October 2005 09:37 (twenty years ago)

Did you get some good flat action?

Come Back Johnny B (Johnney B), Monday, 31 October 2005 09:37 (twenty years ago)

What developments Kate?

Panther Pink (Pinkpanther), Monday, 31 October 2005 09:38 (twenty years ago)

i ate a lot at the weekend. and i had a dvd marathon on saturday. but other than that, not a lot happened.

i'm off work on wednesday though hurrah for i am going to see Fourtet tomorrow night. my first 'night out' in months. sigh.

Ste (Fuzzy), Monday, 31 October 2005 09:39 (twenty years ago)

Yes, good flat action. Oh, I wants I wants I wants. I'm terrible at flat shopping because I just want them all.

...strange crush action. Oh dear.

We might force K8 to change her name to Marie. (kate), Monday, 31 October 2005 09:45 (twenty years ago)

Kate stop teasing & tell all!

Panther Pink (Pinkpanther), Monday, 31 October 2005 09:50 (twenty years ago)

And I'm back at the computer after a week's healthy hiking around the north east. I trust everyone is well?

Matt (Matt), Monday, 31 October 2005 09:52 (twenty years ago)

I spent my weekend cleaning the house, playing very geeky simulator games on the parents' PC, and worrying about why my website was down and whether everything would still be on it when it reappeared.

Oh, and I ate far too much cinder toffee, until I felt ill and my tongue was sore.

I'm hungry now.

Forest Pines (ForestPines), Monday, 31 October 2005 09:56 (twenty years ago)

i spent my weekend being a DEAD PIRATE! YARR!!

http://www.kittenrecords.co.uk/slypics/ghost-kit2.jpg

g-kit (g-kit), Monday, 31 October 2005 09:59 (twenty years ago)

I must say, you're doing a good job of it in that photo.

Come Back Johnny B (Johnney B), Monday, 31 October 2005 10:01 (twenty years ago)

A dead drunk pirate? ;-)

Forest Pines (ForestPines), Monday, 31 October 2005 10:03 (twenty years ago)

So good to have a non-manic week again. I intend to spend as much of it as possible posting here, to make up for last week

beanz (beanz), Monday, 31 October 2005 10:08 (twenty years ago)

I've given up smoking w33d this weekend, and I feel a billion times better, and I've got more done, and everything. I just have to avoid buying any now . . .

Come Back Johnny B (Johnney B), Monday, 31 October 2005 10:10 (twenty years ago)

I did that a couple of months back, and it's terrifying how much I've managed to get done since.

Matt (Matt), Monday, 31 October 2005 10:15 (twenty years ago)

Be strong, you can do it Nicki Johnny!

Panther Pink (Pinkpanther), Monday, 31 October 2005 10:18 (twenty years ago)

Arrrrr! Ahoy, dead maties! Good costume indeed! x-x-x-post

I went as Katharine the Great, except I couldn't find a horse as Woolworths was closed by the time I got the train. Lovely gay boys kept comlimenting me on my gold brocade frock coat for unimaginable reasons. ;-)

Flat hunting, yes yes, I looked a pokey little basement flats, bah - that is the problem with those pretty pointy Victorian buildings is they have loads and loads of pokey little rooms. Then I saw a former MEWS HOUSE which was all open plan and lovely and huge and had the most ENOURMOUS WINDOWS along the front of the house (frosted glass at eye level so I needn't worry about passers by looking in). And that's the one I want.

Crush... well, I thought it was a big disaster at the weekend because he did not turn up to the party (possibly because his brother and The Belgian had a massive row and his brother was being a cnut and decided not to come to the party, but in the end he turned up at midnight very drunk, but gah - anyway, with them having relationship troubles I thought it would be wise not to try to pump them for info about him, even though The Belgian asked me what was going on, and I said "utterly nothing! he doesn't respond to my emails" and she said that was strange because everyone had thought that he liked me and he had shows an unusual (for him) amount of interest in talking to me.

Anyway, so I was all "Whatever!" thinking that f*ckwittage ran in the family because his brother was being a total f*ckwit at the time. Also, I was dismayed to find out that he was younger than I thought. He is only 28 - I thought he was at least 30. That's rather too young for me.

But anyway, I get into work this morning and there is an email from him apologising for not being able to go to the party, but sending me links to his personal website and his Flickr account going "look at my printing press!" so now I don't feel guilty at all for having found it through stalking googling.

We might force K8 to change her name to Marie. (kate), Monday, 31 October 2005 10:21 (twenty years ago)

Pictures needed!
Great news!
Really, way to go!

Panther Pink (Pinkpanther), Monday, 31 October 2005 10:45 (twenty years ago)

Well, at least you know he doesn't hate you. That's a start.

Come Back Johnny B (Johnney B), Monday, 31 October 2005 10:54 (twenty years ago)

He is confusing and too young and incommunicative and has a genetic propensity for fuckwittage. Sigh.

However, there is a super-cute cartoon of him on his website! He looks like such an uber-geek! Actually, he looks like Mr. Spock in emo glasses. K-rowr.

We might force K8 to change her name to Marie. (kate), Monday, 31 October 2005 11:02 (twenty years ago)

28 Is OK I think.

Panther Pink (Pinkpanther), Monday, 31 October 2005 11:04 (twenty years ago)

7 years younger than me. I'm not sure how I feel about dating anyone under 30! I think it really is one of those important divisions.

We might force K8 to change her name to Marie. (kate), Monday, 31 October 2005 11:04 (twenty years ago)

All the best people are 28

Matt (Matt), Monday, 31 October 2005 11:05 (twenty years ago)

but the rule: divide by 2, add 7. so you're looking for someone at least 25.

so it's okay!

Ste (Fuzzy), Monday, 31 October 2005 11:07 (twenty years ago)

genetic propensity for fuckwittage

I think you're clutching at negative straws here.

Come Back Johnny B (Johnney B), Monday, 31 October 2005 11:08 (twenty years ago)

B-b-but I'm 29 & you'd date me right?!

Panther Pink (Pinkpanther), Monday, 31 October 2005 11:10 (twenty years ago)

OK, the weekend after the walk, the Belgian told me that she went to visit their parents in Oxford, and they mentioned that they had just been on a walk with TGL. Parents asked "did he talk to anyone?" and seemed to express surprise that he had talked at great length, with a girl.

x-post Pink, you're a girl. Girls mature faster.

We might force K8 to change her name to Marie. (kate), Monday, 31 October 2005 11:11 (twenty years ago)

Phew, cos for a minute there.....;-)

Panther Pink (Pinkpanther), Monday, 31 October 2005 11:16 (twenty years ago)

a genetic propensity for fuckwittage

So what you're saying is: he's got a Y-chromosome :-)

Forest Pines (ForestPines), Monday, 31 October 2005 11:21 (twenty years ago)

All the best people are 28

Apart from the ones who will be 28 in a few months' time, obv

Forest Pines (ForestPines), Monday, 31 October 2005 11:22 (twenty years ago)

Yes, exactly, you lot are all so worryingly YOUNG!!!

We might force K8 to change her name to Marie. (kate), Monday, 31 October 2005 11:27 (twenty years ago)

All the best people are 28
I think that should be rephrased as all the best people have been 28!

Panther Pink (Pinkpanther), Monday, 31 October 2005 11:30 (twenty years ago)

kate 7 years is nothing! his bro has been behaving rubbishly recently, but his bro is younger than him and also they are so different!

xpost i like the sound of that cos i am not 28 yet so i can believe the best is yet to come.

emsk ( emsk), Monday, 31 October 2005 11:31 (twenty years ago)

> Yes, exactly, you lot are all so worryingly YOUNG!!!

thanks!

koogs (koogs), Monday, 31 October 2005 11:36 (twenty years ago)

I'm only 26. How come I'm so rubbish?

Come Back Johnny B (Johnney B), Monday, 31 October 2005 11:36 (twenty years ago)

It's nice when someone tells me I'm young, because my mother keeps telling me how old I'm getting.

Forest Pines (ForestPines), Monday, 31 October 2005 11:37 (twenty years ago)

Why do I always end up being attracted to/dating older brothers? It's not supposed to be that way round, I'm a younger sibling so I'm supposed to be with a younger sibling. Older siblings are too bossy and too... I don't know.

I'm remembering what I was like at 28, and I was a baby! No way I would have been ready for the kind of relationship that I need to be having right now. I mean, I feel so adult! I'm buying a freaking HOUSE!!! I had a proper grownup conversation with a BANK MANAGER on Saturday. About Credit Cards and Loans and Insurance!

And he is mucking about with his pride and joy, an 18th Century printing press. OK, I'm jealous as all get out about him having such a lovely press, in fact, owning an antique printing press seems like just about the coolest thing on earth and when they get it up and running they are going to publish a POETRY PAMPHLET!!!

While I'm being boring as f*ck and buying a flat. When really I'd far prefer to be buying a printing press.

We might force K8 to change her name to Marie. (kate), Monday, 31 October 2005 11:38 (twenty years ago)

I'd imagine you'd have trouble finding a flat with floors strong enough to take an 18th-century printing press.

Forest Pines (ForestPines), Monday, 31 October 2005 11:40 (twenty years ago)

Ugh busy again. Today was supposed to be my easy day :(
Nice outfit G
28 is grate. Are you looking for reasons for it not to work Kate?

beanz (beanz), Monday, 31 October 2005 11:42 (twenty years ago)

OK, I am wrong, it is 19th Century, not 18th Century. But apparently still weighs a ton.

I was shown a venerable platen press, the ‘Arab’ model that Josiah Wade of Halifax launched on an unsuspecting British clientele in the 1870s. This particular specimen was aged about 103 at the time I saw it; it was built in about 1898. It weighed a lot. And I fell for it, which meant manhandling it down a flight of stairs, into a car, to another town, and then putting it back together in a shed that did not exist.

::goes all starry eyed::

We might force K8 to change her name to Marie. (kate), Monday, 31 October 2005 11:43 (twenty years ago)

The dude has a non-shed. That's hott.

Markelby (Mark C), Monday, 31 October 2005 11:46 (twenty years ago)

It's the word "manhandle" I suspect

beanz (beanz), Monday, 31 October 2005 11:47 (twenty years ago)

Why can't I fancy boys for normal things, like... oh, whatever it is you're supposed to fancy boys for, like cars and money, etc.

Instead of fancying boys who get seized with romantic notions to rebuild antique printing presses in non-existent sheds to publish pamplets of poetry on... god, I'm sorry, but that is so hott.

We might force K8 to change her name to Marie. (kate), Monday, 31 October 2005 11:49 (twenty years ago)

and probably rare. so go for it already.

Ste (Fuzzy), Monday, 31 October 2005 11:54 (twenty years ago)

Dude, I'm keen! It's him that doesn't appear to be doing anything about it! I feel like listening to "Push The Button" on endless repeat right now. (And not just because it's such a brilliant song.)

We might force K8 to change her name to Marie. (kate), Monday, 31 October 2005 12:02 (twenty years ago)

I think the rule for relationships is that the possibility of success if inversely proportional to the amount of time spent talking about it pre-relationship. I'm sure that observation has been noted by Kate. Hence her non-stop talking about the fella (instead of a real life "Fancy a curry?" asking) is an attempt to derail the entire process before it starts. The gal's looking for excuses, and so finding them. Stop me if I'm wrong.

Ah.

I nearly wrote this for real, then realised I was being a dick and stopped. I still think I'm right, but it comes across as being a bit harsh there, which I don't mean. I remember you saying that it was nice when a bloke actually came out and told you that he was interested in you instead of pussy-footing around. Well, return the favour. And don't say that it's different for girls - believe me, it so isn't.

Shit, I did it again. Why can't I be nice? Kate, I love you to bits, but for fucks sake, ask him out for curry already.

Come Back Johnny B (Johnney B), Monday, 31 October 2005 12:07 (twenty years ago)

Fair point to all of that. But you know, maybe, just maybe, for once, I'm sick of the fact that IT ALWAYS HAS TO BE ME TO DO THE CHASING.

For once in my freaking life (well, twice, apart from Joe, and we know how badly that turned out) is it so wrong for me to want the bloke to say "Hey, come round and look at my printing press!"?!??!

I am so stressed out of my mind right now with things *I* have to chase - my estate agent, my financial advisor, my programming consultants, my band - that having to chase A Boy is just the ONE LAST THING I haven't got time for. And if that sounds like an excuse, well, fuck it, then it is one. Grrrrrr.

We might force K8 to change her name to Marie. (kate), Monday, 31 October 2005 12:12 (twenty years ago)

I absolutly see what you're saying. Well, remember he's there for the taking, all you need to do is call. And if you're happy with the situation staying like that, then that's cool.

You can't always get what you want
But if you try sometimes
You might find
You get what you need.

Come Back Johnny B (Johnney B), Monday, 31 October 2005 12:16 (twenty years ago)

Get yourself a good solicitor Kate & you'll have to chase less.

Panther Pink (Pinkpanther), Monday, 31 October 2005 12:28 (twenty years ago)

My colleague is supposed to set up the solicitor and everything cause I've not got one. But he did get back to me, so alle es gute.

We might force K8 to change her name to Marie. (kate), Monday, 31 October 2005 12:32 (twenty years ago)

Dear Sir,

I have been instructed by my Client to offer you in full and final settlement of your first date a meal for yourself and my Client at the Happy Pappadum restaurant. Your acceptance of this offer is conditional on your providing to my Client one viewing of your antique printing press following the meal and a rogering at a mutually convenient time.

beanz (beanz), Monday, 31 October 2005 12:33 (twenty years ago)

BWAH HAH HAH HAH HAH!!!

You did genuinely make me laugh out loud. I wonder how he'd react if I sent him that, and then said "whoops, sorry, I'm buying a flat, so I'm putting everything into legalese!"

We might force K8 to change her name to Marie. (kate), Monday, 31 October 2005 12:37 (twenty years ago)

It might go down better than you'd expect...

beanz (beanz), Monday, 31 October 2005 12:40 (twenty years ago)

Think I might go and have a curry for lunch now.

beanz (beanz), Monday, 31 October 2005 12:41 (twenty years ago)

Where do you go for curry at lunch, beanz? There's Palms of Goa but I don't think it's very good, and I'd LOVE to find somewhere Indian that does quick and easy lunchtime takeaway.

Markelby (Mark C), Monday, 31 October 2005 12:45 (twenty years ago)

Mmmm, curry. If I get this flat ::crosses fingers:: it is right next to a takeaway curryhouse!

We might force K8 to change her name to Marie. (kate), Monday, 31 October 2005 12:49 (twenty years ago)

Woodlands on Panton street does all you can eat buffet for about £6 I think. It's south Indian. Not sure about takeaway but I've never looked cos I'm scared of stinking out the coworkers.

beanz (beanz), Monday, 31 October 2005 12:53 (twenty years ago)

I was gonna have stew tonight, but I think I'll make curry instead.

Oooh Kate, be free on the 19th Nov for housewarming! Your real life invite will arrive in your inbox in a day or two - this is forward notice.

Come Back Johnny B (Johnney B), Monday, 31 October 2005 12:57 (twenty years ago)

Now my coworkers want to go to wagamama instead :( I'll have to get curry takeaway tonight if we do :)

beanz (beanz), Monday, 31 October 2005 13:00 (twenty years ago)

Ha ha ha ha ha ha!

I went upstairs to install my RiskAndFee database upstairs for the consultants (basically, it holds the info on what they will get paid on!) so everybody came and gathered round the manager's 'puter while I did it. I've never felt so popular - everyone kept going "show me, show me!"

Even the Boris Johnson lookalike wandered by to take a look, but of course he didn't speak to me. :-(

Which reminds me - I missed Boris J on Desert Island Discs yesterday because all the pirate stations in Brixton block out Radio4 on my radio. Bah! I bet he has rubbish taste in music anyway.

We might force K8 to change her name to Marie. (kate), Monday, 31 October 2005 13:04 (twenty years ago)

Listen to it on the infobahn! If you can't shall I burn it 4 you?

Come Back Johnny B (Johnney B), Monday, 31 October 2005 13:06 (twenty years ago)

I've found it on the website. Ha ha ha, yes indeed he has rubbish taste in music. In fact, I may have swished by it on my way past all the pirates because it was playing Brown Eyed Girl and I hate that song - but that was one of his picks, bwah ha ha.

Here Comes The Sun - bloody obvious choice. Also Start Me Up ::vomits::


However, on the other hand Jared Harris naked he has got Pressure Drop by the Clash and the last movement of Beethoven's Fifth.

Are Tories *allowed* to listen to the Clash? I thought there was a law against it or something.

We might force K8 to change her name to Marie. (kate), Monday, 31 October 2005 13:08 (twenty years ago)

I am confused now. It has a different price on the interweb for the flat I like:

http://www.andrewsonline.co.uk/buyers/propertyDetails.asp?id=19690

I am sure it is bad luck to post this, but lookit!

http://www.andrewsonline.co.uk/images/property/LONDSTRM/llsp0098101.jpg

I have just added it to my shopping basket but I can't seem to find the "proceed to checkout" bit.

Lookit those windows in the bedroom! They're HUGE!

We might force K8 to change her name to Marie. (kate), Monday, 31 October 2005 13:17 (twenty years ago)

Thats's some quality window action. I like the whiteness of it as well - it's like it's standing out waving at passers-by. Is that the curryhouse on the right?

Come Back Johnny B (Johnney B), Monday, 31 October 2005 13:25 (twenty years ago)

I like the whiteness of the outside, but not the inside. As soon as I get some money I will be painting the bedroom Bermuda Blue.

Yes, that is the curryhouse. I've never seen it open.

We might force K8 to change her name to Marie. (kate), Monday, 31 October 2005 13:26 (twenty years ago)

Very nice!

Panther Pink (Pinkpanther), Monday, 31 October 2005 13:54 (twenty years ago)

kate that looks gorgeous.

our email is broken and i cannot do work properly, bah! nice techie is going to call me back soon though.

has anyone else got this skanky-arse cold? i swear it has been hanging around me for like TWO MONTHS waiting to pounce and i've been keeping it at bay by feeding it vegetables but it snuck in while i was sleeping after the party and now i am oozing poison and coughing slime. i'm echinacea'd up to the eyeballs and just went to get cough medicine off the chemist (why did i choose own-brand over benylin? i'm sure it's technically just as effective but doesn't have the all-over snuggly calm feeling you get from mixing some benylin with hot water and drinking it. and it was only eighty sodding pence difference) and have bought soup and turned the radiator up and it is getting WORSE not better, bah.

emsk ( emsk), Monday, 31 October 2005 14:12 (twenty years ago)

Mmmm curry.
Nice looking place Kate.
I'm really going off Boris Johnson. I mean I did a while ago. Probably cos I can't help thinking how much effort he puts into coming across so bumbling and fluffy and cuddly when in fact he's a Tory MP and mean muthafucka hack.

beanz (beanz), Monday, 31 October 2005 14:15 (twenty years ago)

Emsk have you tried curry for cold?

beanz (beanz), Monday, 31 October 2005 14:16 (twenty years ago)

good idea beanz. not really possible at lunch at work though, i haven't got time to eat a whole curry and there is no one else here to share it with :( i think the soup is helping though.

emsk ( emsk), Monday, 31 October 2005 14:18 (twenty years ago)

Emsk, you have clearly got BIRD FLU!!!

I am going to look at the house tomorrow morning first thing, if he can't show it to me tonight. Either way, I am stalking going round the corner to look at it this evening - I might even get some curry at the takeaway and say hello. (Is it stalking if you are trying to buy a house?)

I can't go off Boris J because he is just too HOTTTTT!!! even if he doesn't have an antique printing press, he is still lovely. I have no idea whatsoever what his political views entail. If they are anything like his musical taste, they are probably rubbish.

We might force K8 to change her name to Marie. (kate), Monday, 31 October 2005 14:19 (twenty years ago)

Aww Emsk that sounds horrible!
I am eating some mixed nuts & dried fruit, it is truly scrummy!

it is not stalking kate it's called doing your research!!

Panther Pink (Pinkpanther), Monday, 31 October 2005 14:20 (twenty years ago)

Well if he's hot I guess I can't comment.
xpost
Emsk what kind of soup?

beanz (beanz), Monday, 31 October 2005 14:23 (twenty years ago)

Emsk, you have clearly got BIRD FLU!!!

b-b-but i don't eat birds! ohwaitaminute, on friday i went to pick up our veggie bag from the city farm and aaaargh there are always these curious GEESE there and they always try to peck at the stuff in the bag/my hands holding the bag/any bits/zips hanging off my clothes. perhaps they gaved it to me. oh well. hello, end of the world.

(Is it stalking if you are trying to buy a house?)

no, because the house does not go anywhere. also, you might as well steal a house as buy one, since when you buy it you don't take it anywhere anyway. er. boris j's political views are fairly abhorrent, which is why he has been so useful in teaching me that just because someone makes me larf like a drain does not mean they are on the side of good.

thanks for sympathy pink. i also got some fig rolls which is almost fruit, and i have some apples which are.

xpost it is sainsbury's tomato and basil soup, beanz. i know it's not traditionally the kind of soup to kick yr cold in the arse but there wasn't much that didn't have bacon (bacon soup! is that fucked up?)/chicken etc in it and it is actually very tomatoey, more than i expected.

emsk ( emsk), Monday, 31 October 2005 14:30 (twenty years ago)

Colds ARE horrible. Poor emsk! Def. have a curry tonight, mind.

I've drank so much tea today - I'm on my 7th mug today! This has to be indicative of something - either I'm working too hard or not hard enough.

Come Back Johnny B (Johnney B), Monday, 31 October 2005 14:44 (twenty years ago)

Tomato soup = vitamin c innit? Sounds good. Hope it works.

beanz (beanz), Monday, 31 October 2005 14:51 (twenty years ago)

I would say come and stalk my house with me and I will buy you a curry, but you probably shouldn't be out in the cold and the wet peeping over fences and in windows if you are not well!

We might force K8 to change her name to Marie. (kate), Monday, 31 October 2005 14:51 (twenty years ago)

i am out in the cold and wet anyway what wiv biking everywhere (yes yes but last night i stayed in curled on the sofa instead of going out) - did consider coming in by public transport but decided that would just expose me to more germs and my germs to more people. tonight i am meant to go to a gig. i REALLY want to go. perhaps i shouldn't. hrrm. tomatoes = vit c yes and also they are my desert island food and thus probably more of a comfort than they are to most people. the figs are very good. email still doesn't work, bah!

emsk ( emsk), Monday, 31 October 2005 15:03 (twenty years ago)

also my contract is up on my phone so i'm allowed a new one. which is best: nokia 6021, nokia 6101, ericsson k700i or samsung e350? or should i take the £100 they offered me and run?

emsk ( emsk), Monday, 31 October 2005 15:10 (twenty years ago)

Ericsson's ok but the twiddly joystick thing gets fucked easily. The k750i is supposed to be better and I like it more than the 700. Don't know about the others.

beanz (beanz), Monday, 31 October 2005 15:14 (twenty years ago)

Argh, I know nothing about phones - they scare me! Just get one that takes better pictures.

If you are feeling poorly, for gods sake, girl, stay in and get some rest. Sleeeeeeeep and plenty of fluids. Non alcoholic fluids are best, fruit juices and things.

We might force K8 to change her name to Marie. (kate), Monday, 31 October 2005 15:28 (twenty years ago)

ah i do not want one that gets fucked easily, i tend to treat all my possessions as though they are indestructible and experience never teaches me otherwise. i don't really mind if it takes pictures or not, so long as it has space for a big address book and when you press a wrong button nearly at the end of a long text and accidentally exit text message writing function, it doesn't lose the text. actually i wouldn't mind a phone that would run a bit faster than the one i have, it can't keep up with my fingers and it's bloody annoying.

emsk ( emsk), Monday, 31 October 2005 15:59 (twenty years ago)

if the samsung e350 is anything like my samsung d500 don't get that if you hate short battery life.

Ste (Fuzzy), Monday, 31 October 2005 16:03 (twenty years ago)

I got a d500 recently & I thought it was just my phone that used up so much battery!

Panther Pink (Pinkpanther), Monday, 31 October 2005 16:11 (twenty years ago)

thanks ste. apparently the ericsson one has a shite battery life too. the nokia 6101 seems to come with a free digital radio, which could be handy.

emsk ( emsk), Monday, 31 October 2005 16:13 (twenty years ago)

kate i know i should go home but i'm tugofwarring with myself. bah...

emsk ( emsk), Monday, 31 October 2005 16:17 (twenty years ago)

nokia's have a decent battery life so i'm told.

xpost

Ste (Fuzzy), Monday, 31 October 2005 16:19 (twenty years ago)

Nokia's last for ages.

Panther Pink (Pinkpanther), Monday, 31 October 2005 16:32 (twenty years ago)

Go! Home! Or you will end up getting sicker.

Especially if you spend the night standing in a cigarette-fume-stinking club or pub all night. Think of all the people at the gig! And the germs they have! And the germs you will give them! How often are gigs just as rammed with people as public transport? You're not in a bubble coz you're listening to music!

We might force K8 to change her name to Marie. (kate), Monday, 31 October 2005 16:32 (twenty years ago)

yeh i always had nokia except once a siemens once which was great, and also a motorola which was the biggest pile of shit. god i cannot believe i am having this conversation. STARTED this conversation. i'm going to drink the rest of the bottle of cough mix and come back when i'm a bit more hallucinatory.

emsk ( emsk), Monday, 31 October 2005 16:38 (twenty years ago)

Nokias do last. Ericssons decidedly don't, and they're MUCH less intuitive than Nokias. At least you didn't mention Motorola who make THE worst phones I've ever seen.

Markelby (Mark C), Monday, 31 October 2005 16:42 (twenty years ago)

You know, I nearly revived a thread this morning called "Taking Sides: Conversations about Mobiles vs. Conversations about Mortgages" ha ha, and now we've done both on this thread today.

And here I was saying I'd never had a conversation about mobiles.

We might force K8 to change her name to Marie. (kate), Monday, 31 October 2005 16:43 (twenty years ago)

Go! Home! Or you will end up getting sicker.
Especially if you spend the night standing in a cigarette-fume-stinking club or pub all night. Think of all the people at the gig! And the germs they have! And the germs you will give them! How often are gigs just as rammed with people as public transport? You're not in a bubble coz you're listening to music!

kate thank you. i feel suitably admonished. i am going to go home and wear a dressing gown and eat curry and feel sorry for myself and see if i can get the russian to, i dunno, make me a cup of tea or something (ha ha were you there when she disappeared on saturday? sick as a sick sick puppy and tucked up in bed before 1 again... and of course it was the lights/musics/salsa dips/cigar and not TEH VAST QUANTITIES OF BOOZE which laid her low).

emsk ( emsk), Monday, 31 October 2005 16:51 (twenty years ago)

Conversations about Mobiles

I believe on this thread it's more of a 'consumer advisory' chat.

Ste (Fuzzy), Monday, 31 October 2005 16:55 (twenty years ago)

I think I disappeared before the Russian that night... and had to travel on 4 different busses (bendy 38 - SO WRONG!!!) and witnessed two separate BUSFITES!

mmmm, salsa. I should learn to make guacamole.

We might force K8 to change her name to Marie. (kate), Monday, 31 October 2005 16:55 (twenty years ago)

OHMIGOD, an estate agent actually got back to me! I am going to see the house tonight after all. Will be good to see it at night and see what it's like and how much the Indian Restaurant next door makes my stomach growl.

Fifteen minutes till I leave. What should I look for? I will be flushing the toilets and running the shower and playing with the stove and everything.

We might force K8 to change her name to Marie. (kate), Monday, 31 October 2005 17:17 (twenty years ago)

Is there an extractor fan or hood in the kitchen? I decided not to have one put in my flat when I moved in, and now all the not-regularly-cleaned suyrfaces of the kitchen are covered in a film of greasy soot.

Are there any cracks in the walls? Do check that ANY sign of damp isn't actually damp; check for storage areas; plug sockets; double glazing; are there enough heating points; do all the lights work; um, stuf like that.

Markelby (Mark C), Monday, 31 October 2005 17:33 (twenty years ago)

i was always told that there had to be two doors between a bathroom and a kitchen. i could be wrong.

those windows will need curtains at night if the house i passed the other day is anything to go by. robin asquith would've blushed...

koogs (koogs), Monday, 31 October 2005 17:37 (twenty years ago)

Greetings everyone. Bauhaus was great on Saturday so you should all go with Kate to see them, or I'll mock.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 31 October 2005 17:53 (twenty years ago)

tudor

jel -- (jel), Monday, 31 October 2005 17:57 (twenty years ago)

Morning, everyone. I'll put the kettle on, shall I?

Forest Pines (ForestPines), Tuesday, 1 November 2005 08:18 (twenty years ago)

Blimey, an early start. Please do.

Matt (Matt), Tuesday, 1 November 2005 08:24 (twenty years ago)

Mmmm, tea.

Come Back Johnny B (Johnney B), Tuesday, 1 November 2005 08:57 (twenty years ago)

Is there an extractor fan or hood in the kitchen? I decided not to have one put in my flat when I moved in, and now all the not-regularly-cleaned suyrfaces of the kitchen are covered in a film of greasy soot.

Yes there is, the kitchen is GORGEOUS. Only one sink, but it's a nice round one. Apart from that it's astonishingly well fitted.

Are there any cracks in the walls?

Nope.

Do check that ANY sign of damp isn't actually damp;

Went back and looked at it and it had dried out since Sunday, but I did insist that the builder go back and sort it out.

check for storage areas;

Tonnes!!! Big hall closet under the stairs, tons of cabinets in the kitchen, airing cupboard in the bathroom. (Only a shower connected to the taps, but I may have a power shower put in eventually.)

plug sockets;

Check.

double glazing;

Check. Especially on those HUGE front windows - I made the estate agent turn on all the lights and walk around to make sure that people couldn't see in. You can't see much except sillhouettes and that's what curtains are for anyway. Plus the road - it's quite and speed bumped so all the cars disappear down another road rather than turning down my bit. WHich is good. It's a cute, cute, neighbourhood!

are there enough heating points; do all the lights work; um, stuf like that.

Blimey, yes. Now I'm fussing because I didn't actually flush the loo or run the shower but I suppose I can go back again.

Anyway, I put in an offer on it last night! Told them no haggling, no fuss, take it or leave it, but it had to be quick. Estate Agent told me that because it's a developer and there's not chain they will be quite keen to recoup their expenses quickly and not drag it out deciding what day they need to move out, etc... blah blah.

We might force K8 to change her name to Marie. (kate), Tuesday, 1 November 2005 09:03 (twenty years ago)

Cor!

Matt (Matt), Tuesday, 1 November 2005 09:06 (twenty years ago)

Today:

a) I am going to be spending most of my time doing database rebuild experiments on a 3.5G database. Which, hence, takes ages to do each rebuild (or not do, which is what usually happens)

b) My manager is off!

Together, these factors will probably add up to me spending a lot of time on ILX. Hurrah!

(although if they're factors then surely they should multiply, not add up)

Forest Pines (ForestPines), Tuesday, 1 November 2005 09:10 (twenty years ago)

I am just going to be a big ball of stress today, and this won't change until I hear about my flat, and then I will either start crying or jumping up and down being uncontainably joyous.

Sigh. And I have to run all the end of month reports and my database is being CRAP.

We might force K8 to change her name to Marie. (kate), Tuesday, 1 November 2005 09:19 (twenty years ago)

End of month reports! I forgot about them! Ah crap.

Come Back Johnny B (Johnney B), Tuesday, 1 November 2005 09:24 (twenty years ago)

morning! kate that is bloody damn exciting! will keep everything crossed for you. the cold and flu situation is improving: i threw all the veggies in the house into a pan last night then got in the bath (not with panful of veggies) then whizzed it into soup when i got out and went to bed at ELEVEN! of course i am still late for work this morning (not wasting time on here i am having breakfast)... and it will be my Last Official Day! help me find a new job, people. kate are you coming to see the victorians tonight? i accidentally got veh veh drunk with them on friday.

emsk ( emsk), Tuesday, 1 November 2005 09:25 (twenty years ago)

I am glad to hear you are on the mend - veggies doing some good, then, hurrah.

LAST OFFICIAL DAY!!! Blimey! It seems like just yesterday you got that job... no, wait, it seems like forever.

Yes, I am coming to see Victorians tonight. Is there a guest list or a flyer or something because Water Rats is always stupidly bloody expensive?

We might force K8 to change her name to Marie. (kate), Tuesday, 1 November 2005 09:28 (twenty years ago)

i'm probly not the only person who read that as 'threw up all the veggies into a pan'

xpost

Ste (Fuzzy), Tuesday, 1 November 2005 09:29 (twenty years ago)

yay kate, i am pretty sure i can sort some kind of cheapie thing for tonight.

LAST OFFICIAL DAY!!! Blimey! It seems like just yesterday you got that job... no, wait, it seems like forever.

FIVE AND A HALF YEARS! that is longer than i've done anything in my life. time for a change. people keep either a) wanting me to do what i've been doing all that time and (yay) b) telling me i should be a manager/tour manager. but i do need to do something that makes me some £££. i thought about temping - gonna chat to handle and the music market people. people can get crazy money doing that, right? i would maybe only need to work 8 days a month to make what i've been making?

haha ste not quite but i do feel like i coughed up my entire insides into a tissue. everything HURTS. all my muscles. ow.

emsk ( emsk), Tuesday, 1 November 2005 09:35 (twenty years ago)

Hurrah for The Victorians!

Hurrah for Kate's new house!

Hurrah for Emsk's job end!

Hurrah for FP's boss being off!

This is all making me cheery - I got up this morning full of anger for no apparent reason. I don't have anything to get happy ABOUT, but still, HAPPY FOR YOU LOT! YAY!

Um, emsks new job - didn't we settle on Cookie Courier?

Come Back Johnny B (Johnney B), Tuesday, 1 November 2005 09:39 (twenty years ago)

Horrible start to the morning made slightly better by Kate's offer on her potential new home!

Panther Pink (Pinkpanther), Tuesday, 1 November 2005 09:49 (twenty years ago)

dude if you want me to be a cookie courier i would totally do it. you have to pay me though!

emsk ( emsk), Tuesday, 1 November 2005 09:51 (twenty years ago)

I've been reading horror stories on the web about gazzumping, blargh, so I'm feeling very very nervous now.

Cookie Courier, oh yes!

We might force K8 to change her name to Marie. (kate), Tuesday, 1 November 2005 09:52 (twenty years ago)

Stop reading gazzumping stories Kate!!
I would like a visit from the cookie courier, but I don't have any money! :-(

Panther Pink (Pinkpanther), Tuesday, 1 November 2005 10:20 (twenty years ago)

Arrgh what an annoying day so far. Glad everyone's doing better :) Congrats on house offers and end of job and everything else as appropriate. Today I:

1. Got up a few minutes late, making the day a bit frantic to begin with, so
2. Caught the bus halfway to work (I usually walk) but I
3. Forgot to bleep my Oyster so I
4. Got a £20 fare dodging fine.
5. So I figured, hey at least I'm not going to work today, I'm going to a conference after all. No need to worry. Got to supposed venue - they'd emailed me the wrong map. I was in Whitehall and needed to be in Regent's Park.
6. So I came back to the office and had a cup of tea and now I'm getting roped into other people's work when I shuold be making my way slowly to NW1.

beanz (beanz), Tuesday, 1 November 2005 10:28 (twenty years ago)

i got a cookie courier!
cookie time.
jaguar.
pirates.

g-kit (g-kit), Tuesday, 1 November 2005 10:29 (twenty years ago)

Argh, that's horrible, Beanz! I swear those Oyster things make people forget their fares more. It's terribly unfair.

Anyway, I got a bit depressed by all those gazzumping/gazzundering (heh, too funny a term - I swear that's what Aussies do after they drink too much) so this cheered me up:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio4/factual/media/boris_johnson.jpg

We might force K8 to change her name to Marie. (kate), Tuesday, 1 November 2005 10:30 (twenty years ago)

Ah it's my fault. I like Oyster cards, I just wasn't thinking straight. I was listening to the radio and getting annoyed with John Humphreys; I was gazing out of the window wondering if carrying on walking would have been faster; it was a new bendy 38 and I was thinking how much nicer the routemasters were because of the friendly conductors (oh the ironing – can't forget your fare with a conductor)...

beanz (beanz), Tuesday, 1 November 2005 10:36 (twenty years ago)

ARRRGGH ARRRGGGHHH I HATE THE BENDY 38s THEY ARE SO WRONG!!!

There was an ad for them in the Metro today but I still hate them.

We might force K8 to change her name to Marie. (kate), Tuesday, 1 November 2005 10:36 (twenty years ago)

Coffeetime now. Sigh.

We might force K8 to change her name to Marie. (kate), Tuesday, 1 November 2005 11:08 (twenty years ago)

...anything to distract me from the non-ringingness of my phone. Bah, Estate Agents are worse than BOYS because more is riding on them.

We might force K8 to change her name to Marie. (kate), Tuesday, 1 November 2005 11:12 (twenty years ago)

If you're already riding estate agents then this 'joke' completes itself ho ho

beanz (beanz), Tuesday, 1 November 2005 11:23 (twenty years ago)

OMIGOD, I JUST HEARD BACK FROM THE ESTATE AGENT!!! THEY'VE ACCEPTED MY OFFER! I'VE GOT THE HOUSE!!!!!!!

OK, but first, before they take the house off the market, they want to know my solicitor. I don't HAVE a solicitor! Where do I get one? I've just asked my advisor if we have one that we use in-house.

Or does anyone else have any advise about getting one?

We might force K8 to change her name to Marie. (kate), Tuesday, 1 November 2005 11:59 (twenty years ago)

well done kate. um no i don't know anything about such grown-up things

Ste (Fuzzy), Tuesday, 1 November 2005 12:02 (twenty years ago)

Oh wow, excellent news darl! *big hugglez* Try to go on a recommendation. Ask around at work see who other people used them give them a quick call & tell the deal. Then you got to tell the agent asap.

Panther Pink (Pinkpanther), Tuesday, 1 November 2005 12:13 (twenty years ago)

congrats Kate!

Matt (Matt), Tuesday, 1 November 2005 12:15 (twenty years ago)

Luckily, we have an in-house solicitor! Who apparently sits upstairs, though I've never met him/her (cannot tell from the name - is Gr33r likely to be a man or a woman?)

We might force K8 to change her name to Marie. (kate), Tuesday, 1 November 2005 12:16 (twenty years ago)

HOW DO THEY EXPECT ME TO CONCENTRATE ON WORK TODAY?!?!?!?

We might force K8 to change her name to Marie. (kate), Tuesday, 1 November 2005 12:17 (twenty years ago)

Go talk to the solicitor, the quicker you do it the quicker it comes off the market! Yay, so happy for you!

Panther Pink (Pinkpanther), Tuesday, 1 November 2005 12:19 (twenty years ago)

don't get too psyched. the place i was going to buy fell through AFTER my offer was accepted. she took it off the market. i was SO bummed. i'm sure it'll be ok, but don't get superpsyched, like i did.

g-kit (g-kit), Tuesday, 1 November 2005 12:21 (twenty years ago)

Ah, all I had to do is tell them what solicitor would be handling the case, not actually instruct them. It's all gone through now.

All this will happen on Thursday afternoon when I go back to see my advisor. And stop bouncing off the walls for a bit.

We might force K8 to change her name to Marie. (kate), Tuesday, 1 November 2005 12:24 (twenty years ago)

This means I better stop spending money like it's water for the time being.

We might force K8 to change her name to Marie. (kate), Tuesday, 1 November 2005 12:25 (twenty years ago)

Stuff does go wrong & you'll be gutted if it does, (ours feel through after 3 months in) but all you can do is make sure everything is available for your solicitor when they ask for it & you're as ready as you can be. Then you just got to cross your fingers & get excited whilst you wait for completion day! Do you have your mortgage sorted?

Panther Pink (Pinkpanther), Tuesday, 1 November 2005 12:34 (twenty years ago)

They have found me a couple of different options on the mortgage - we'll sort that out and apply for it on Thursday.

The annoying thing is... some lenders actually have a problem with it being next to an Indian Takeaway, apparently! Dude, that is a MAJOR PLUS!!! in most people's books!

We might force K8 to change her name to Marie. (kate), Tuesday, 1 November 2005 12:40 (twenty years ago)

COngratulations Kate :-)

Forest Pines (ForestPines), Tuesday, 1 November 2005 12:49 (twenty years ago)

my girlfriend lives next door to an indian take-away. it smells like lime pickle outside her place quite often. it's great!

g-kit (g-kit), Tuesday, 1 November 2005 12:53 (twenty years ago)

I love the smell of it. But possibly they are concerned about mice, and also the increased risk of being burned down or something. Who knows. Mortgage Lenders can be FREAKING WEIRD in their specifications.

We might force K8 to change her name to Marie. (kate), Tuesday, 1 November 2005 13:07 (twenty years ago)

I am also already entertaining notions of WHAT COLOURS I AM GOING TO PAINT IT!!! Seeing as it will be MY FIRST HOUSE that I can paint whatever colour I want since I was a teenager and my mum let me paint my bedroom purple.

I'm thinking Bermuda Blue for the bedroom and fuschia and purple for the kitchen/living room. I will probably change my mind when I realise that living in a dayglo house is as distressing as living in a plain white one.

We might force K8 to change her name to Marie. (kate), Tuesday, 1 November 2005 13:14 (twenty years ago)

(Though when I was a child, I saw a picture in one of my mum's books of Helena Rubenstein's flat and it was PURPLE AND FUCHSIA and I thought it was the most amazing and sophisticated and grown up thing I'd ever seen. I should ask my mum if she still has the book.)

We might force K8 to change her name to Marie. (kate), Tuesday, 1 November 2005 13:15 (twenty years ago)

My bedroom is purple or to give it its correct name, "aubergine"!!

Panther Pink (Pinkpanther), Tuesday, 1 November 2005 13:18 (twenty years ago)

Aaaaa, I love aubergine purple. One of the flats I looked at was lilac and it looked so wussy. If you're going to paint your flat purple, paint it PURPLE!!!

We might force K8 to change her name to Marie. (kate), Tuesday, 1 November 2005 13:20 (twenty years ago)

dude, my bedroom IS purple.

g-kit (g-kit), Tuesday, 1 November 2005 13:23 (twenty years ago)

I'm sensing a common theme among the Watercoolers here...

We might force K8 to change her name to Marie. (kate), Tuesday, 1 November 2005 13:25 (twenty years ago)

mines plain old white. but purple is my favourite colour

Ste (Fuzzy), Tuesday, 1 November 2005 13:26 (twenty years ago)

Purple is my favourite colour too! I have shiny purple nails at the moment & some guy (an older guy too) at work called me a goth, that's the first time that's ever happened.

Panther Pink (Pinkpanther), Tuesday, 1 November 2005 13:30 (twenty years ago)

My favourite colour is actually cobalt blue. Ooooh, I will have lots of cobalt blue glass in my house... maybe even in the front room! Bermuda blue and Cobalt Blue with spangly bits of gold will look very Egyptian!

We might force K8 to change her name to Marie. (kate), Tuesday, 1 November 2005 13:32 (twenty years ago)

Cobalt blue comes a very close second for me!

Panther Pink (Pinkpanther), Tuesday, 1 November 2005 13:33 (twenty years ago)

I have Bermuda Blue on half the walls in my kitchen. The other half are orange. Sgs is keen to paint over all four of them.

Markelby (Mark C), Tuesday, 1 November 2005 15:41 (twenty years ago)

Bermuda blue and orange together I would imagine would be a bit... eye shattering.

Either would be OK, or with a more complmentary colour. But not together, no. That's the sort of thing my (colour blind) father would do. Have you had your eyes checked?

We might force K8 to change her name to Marie. (kate), Tuesday, 1 November 2005 15:43 (twenty years ago)

candy apple red!

ok, last thing i'll EVER say about my guitar here. i promise.
the tech i took it to was PWNAGE. i asked him to pot the pickups, instead he did a lot of tinkering. he ended up removing the pickup claws (they were causing it to go all microphonic), added magnetic shielding (!) below the pickguard, padded the pickups so i can make them even higher, regrounded it and replaced the input jack. result: no squealing feedback, just lovely, lovely harmonic feedback that is totally under my control, should i want it, and no squealing. i love jaggy.

g-kit (g-kit), Tuesday, 1 November 2005 15:48 (twenty years ago)

and lo, the thread did die.

g-kit (g-kit), Tuesday, 1 November 2005 16:01 (twenty years ago)

Sorry, no, I was just talking to my advisor and filling out my instruct my lawyers form. Weex! This is really happening! (And it looks like I'll get a deal on the lawyering Conveyancing, as well.)

Sounds lovely! I always like when guitar techs do more/better things than you expect them to. I once took my epiphone Jag to a tech to get the bridge fixed, and it came back with a horrible crack in the neck taken care of as well!

We might force K8 to change her name to Marie. (kate), Tuesday, 1 November 2005 16:05 (twenty years ago)

epiphone jag?

g-kit (g-kit), Tuesday, 1 November 2005 16:06 (twenty years ago)

Yes, a curious guitar indeed. It looked like a Jaguar, complete with floating tremolo and all, right up to the headstock. Which was epiphone. I've only ever seen two others in my life - one played by the guitarist of the Dandy Warhols, the other by Mike Flowers.

We might force K8 to change her name to Marie. (kate), Tuesday, 1 November 2005 16:12 (twenty years ago)

woah, you be in the big league there, girl!

g-kit (g-kit), Tuesday, 1 November 2005 16:14 (twenty years ago)

If that's the big league, I quake to think of the minors...

Argh! Oh no! Sport reference, oh no!

We might force K8 to change her name to Marie. (kate), Tuesday, 1 November 2005 16:18 (twenty years ago)

Give in, Kate.

Yay Emsk being free! Yay amazing Kate plans and things! Yay Bermuda Blue! (And why not?)

It is November and I ponder. Namely, what gifts am I getting people as the holidays approach.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 1 November 2005 16:22 (twenty years ago)

and a Quake reference. so l33t! xpost, yo

g-kit (g-kit), Tuesday, 1 November 2005 16:25 (twenty years ago)

Anyone still around?

I'm trying to figure out whether I should just stay at work until the show tonight, or go and eat dinner, perhaps at the cheap Indian place on Chapel Market, cause I should REALLY be saving my sheckels for this house. Blimey.

I suppose I'll wait until the busses empty out as I'll have to get on a horrible horrible 38 to do that. Bah.

We might force K8 to change her name to Marie. (kate), Tuesday, 1 November 2005 18:26 (twenty years ago)

Good morning.

Can I please just say, my mother is driving me crazy?

OK, that is all, for now.

We might force K8 to change her name to Marie. (kate), Wednesday, 2 November 2005 08:44 (twenty years ago)

You have my sympathies. I have to live with mine.

Forest Pines (ForestPines), Wednesday, 2 November 2005 08:46 (twenty years ago)

Is your mum still giving you cash?

Come Back Johnny B (Johnney B), Wednesday, 2 November 2005 08:49 (twenty years ago)

Right now, who knows. It seems to change daily, the sum that's she's giving me (She suddenly remembered that she had a lump of British Pounds sitting in a safe deposit box somewhere) dependent on her mood.

Argh, I have a little story to tell because I need to blow off steam, but it can wait until after my morning reports.

We might force K8 to change her name to Marie. (kate), Wednesday, 2 November 2005 08:52 (twenty years ago)

Oooh! The morning reports! Thanks for reminding me!

(mine are: statistics for the hour-by-hour phone traffic in one specific office. The phone-reporting program we have is *dire*, so it takes about half an hour of copy-and-paste)

Forest Pines (ForestPines), Wednesday, 2 November 2005 09:07 (twenty years ago)

Bah, they told me that our Oracle system was being shut down yesterday and that all the records were being transfered over, so I got all excited thinking I wouldn't have to do the morning reports, but of course, I go in there and all kinds of data is still happening on it. Argh.

We might force K8 to change her name to Marie. (kate), Wednesday, 2 November 2005 09:08 (twenty years ago)

Argh month end! Kate - tell us a story!

Panther Pink (Pinkpanther), Wednesday, 2 November 2005 09:10 (twenty years ago)

Morning.
Congrats on the house Kate.
FP - hour by hour phone traffic? Are they suspected of calling Australian relatives all day or something?

beanz (beanz), Wednesday, 2 November 2005 09:17 (twenty years ago)

No, but the MD keeps complaining that they take too long to answer the phone, and the staff keep complaining that the amount of time they have to spend on the phone is the reason why their actual work is so far behind. Hence, the MD has asked for reports of how many phone calls they get, how long they spend on the phone, how long each caller has to wait before we answer, etc, etc.

(I'm still playing with rebuilding a nice big database in lots of different ways, too. However, as each rebuild takes half a day, I've got plenty of spare time)

Forest Pines (ForestPines), Wednesday, 2 November 2005 09:27 (twenty years ago)

Argh, one of the servers has crashed this morning - so. Do they pester the sys admin? No, they pester the database admin because clearly I must have access to the server room, you'd think, huh?

Grrrr.

We might force K8 to change her name to Marie. (kate), Wednesday, 2 November 2005 09:31 (twenty years ago)

Don't worry or grumble, you home-owner! :-))

Nathalie, the Queen of Frock 'n' Fall (stevie nixed), Wednesday, 2 November 2005 09:33 (twenty years ago)

I've got loads of reports to run, so I've set my database update in motion - it'll take about 3 hours. Now, the whole office is in disarray because the big chairman is coming round, so the place has come to a standstill - fruit baskets out, colour co-ordinated white boards, the works. I'd have thought this is patronising to the chairman rather than complimentary, and I wouldn't mind other people running about like a loon, but they want me at my desk at all times - sod that, I've gotta get up and do stuff. Now, this is clearly rubbish, and if the chairman stops to talk to me then I'll tell him all and never mind the consequences.

Come Back Johnny B (Johnney B), Wednesday, 2 November 2005 09:34 (twenty years ago)

OIC xxxpost
Hey it's something to do with computers, right xxpost
How difficult is it to co-ordinate white boards by colour?

beanz (beanz), Wednesday, 2 November 2005 09:36 (twenty years ago)

Anyway, the story is this, and I hope it doesn't encourage people to come and trample all over this thread because it is about the dreaded bugbear of RACISM, oh no.

The last year that I lived in NYC, I lived in Astoria, which was (probably still is) a very Greek neighbourhood. If anything, it had a very villagey feel to it, the man in the coffeeshop, the cook in the local restaurant, the woman at the laundrette, all of them knew me by sight at least. However, I was losing patience with NYC in specific and America in general and just wanted to get out. Not to mention that there was a couple who lived across the airshaft and I would have to listen to their endless rows, which were escalating to the point where I feared wifebeating.

Anyway, my mum was in South Africa for several months, looking after my gran, so I moved out of the flat and back into her house while it was vacant. I don't really remember having many conversations about my move, except me saying that I hated NYC. When she came back, she said something to the effect of "I'm not surprised you hated that neighbourhood, it was very working class, wasn't it, you never really fit in, did you, not really your culture, etc. etc.?" To which I just kind of said, yes mum, no mum, three bags full mum.

Now my mum is EXPERT at bringing things up YEARS later, in the course of an argument in order to win her point.

In discussion of this flat I'm buying, she sends me a weird email out of nowhere going, and I quote:

Where is it? In relation to where you live now? There are other white people in the neighborhood? Remeber that palce in Long island you lived.

I wrote back and told her that I knew the neighbourhood well, that I had lived here for a year and a half, and that I did not appreciate her casual racism as it bore no relation whatsoever to my decision to live anywhere.

So she calls back in a FURY saying that I've called her a racist because she was supposedly quoting *me* - or what she has managed to convince herself that I said. I told her it was her own imagination.

I mean 1) she wasn't even THERE when I moved, so I'm not sure when this conversation was supposed to have taken place. 2) how could I have made a "no white faces" comment in a GREEK neighbourhood? 3) This doesn't sound even REMOTELY like something I would say. I mean, the "working class" comment, yes, that sounds like me in a snobby moment. But "no white faces"? Does that sound like ME, or does that sound like the frenzied racial imagination of someone who was spending six months in SOUTH AFRICA at the time?

Argh, argh, argh. ::bashes head against the desk::

I'm not going to make a fight out of it because this woman is giving me £8000, but god, this is buying a lot of tongue-holding.

Anyway, no comment is necessary, I just wanted to get it out of my system.

We might force K8 to change her name to Marie. (kate), Wednesday, 2 November 2005 09:49 (twenty years ago)

Grrr, argh, yes, I know. Must not fight with mum until cash in bank but she really does think that this gives her carte blanche to fuss at me.

We might force K8 to change her name to Marie. (kate), Wednesday, 2 November 2005 09:53 (twenty years ago)

xpost The managers have been running around re-writing everything ON the whiteboard, I MEAN!

Oh, and they're painting the roses red instead of white as well. They're making an awful mess.

Come Back Johnny B (Johnney B), Wednesday, 2 November 2005 09:55 (twenty years ago)

Not really much that can be commented here, but it's tough isn't it. Just bite your tongue & punch your pillow!

Panther Pink (Pinkpanther), Wednesday, 2 November 2005 09:56 (twenty years ago)

I'm trying to remember if that tv production of Alice in Wonderland about 18 years ago was really good or really bad. It was compulsive though. xpost

beanz (beanz), Wednesday, 2 November 2005 10:21 (twenty years ago)

Ha ha, I've just joined the greatest blog ever:

Things That Piss Me Off.

Maybe I'll reprint my story about my mum there.

We might force K8 to change her name to Marie. (kate), Wednesday, 2 November 2005 10:28 (twenty years ago)

Also... my boss left a COOKIE for me on my desk this morning! Wow!

We might force K8 to change her name to Marie. (kate), Wednesday, 2 November 2005 10:32 (twenty years ago)

My boss's bos bought in some carrot cake she made last night, and I tried some. It wasn't very good, but everyone else was blown away by it. I'm going to make MY carrot cake tonight and see what they reckon - they'll be blown away.

Come Back Johnny B (Johnney B), Wednesday, 2 November 2005 10:34 (twenty years ago)

Mmmmm, cake

I'm getting hungry now.

Forest Pines (ForestPines), Wednesday, 2 November 2005 10:35 (twenty years ago)

I will allow myself to have cake if I'm over my nanowrimo word count by lunchtime.

Matt (Matt), Wednesday, 2 November 2005 10:36 (twenty years ago)

i have cookie now.

good times!

band practice tonight, with new improved (thing i won't ever mention on this thread again). i cannae wait!

g-kit (g-kit), Wednesday, 2 November 2005 10:37 (twenty years ago)

Omigod, they are ROLO flavoured cookies.

We might force K8 to change her name to Marie. (kate), Wednesday, 2 November 2005 10:39 (twenty years ago)

Getting into a cake war with the Boss of Bosses sounds risky. Are you sure there won't be collateral damage of some sort?

Why can't we talk about the thing you aren't mentioning G? I don't own one of those things so I kinda like hearing about them and that one in particular. (God I hope we're talking about the same thing)

beanz (beanz), Wednesday, 2 November 2005 10:40 (twenty years ago)

Kate, don't worry about it, we and you know that you're not racist at all, so don't let it upset you. Just think about the FLAT! :-)))

Nathalie, the Queen of Frock 'n' Fall (stevie nixed), Wednesday, 2 November 2005 10:43 (twenty years ago)

i talk about it so much that i started to feel like a bore. (yeesh, i too hope we're talking about the same thing right now)

g-kit (g-kit), Wednesday, 2 November 2005 10:46 (twenty years ago)

It's not that I worry that anyone thinks I'm racist, it's just that it's such an annoying, petty thing for my mother to bring up. And her projection of her faults onto me. It's just irritating. I mean, how many times can you argue with your mother and say "I never bloody said that, I've no idea where you got that from!"

I just hate being misunderstood. Especially by someone who is supposed to know me so well. I guess it just proves how little my mum has ever understood me.

We might force K8 to change her name to Marie. (kate), Wednesday, 2 November 2005 10:47 (twenty years ago)

Rolo cookies are great. We have someone at work whose dad works at United Biscuits,* so she gets to shop at their staff shop and get lots of cheap McVities stuff.

* or possibly one of their related companies - I can't remember the details

Forest Pines (ForestPines), Wednesday, 2 November 2005 10:48 (twenty years ago)

(actually, I think he actually works for Young's, which used to be part of United Biscuits but is now unrelated - but not so unrelated that their staff shop doesn't have UB products in)

(I really should try to be less of a pedant, you know)

Forest Pines (ForestPines), Wednesday, 2 November 2005 10:51 (twenty years ago)

Kate, I get what you're saying! The best thing is to just let it go. Let her think whatever she likes to think. Arguing doesn't help. Well, not with my mother anyway. :-)

Nathalie, the Queen of Frock 'n' Fall (stevie nixed), Wednesday, 2 November 2005 10:58 (twenty years ago)

I know, Nath - I think all mothers are alike on that count. Sigh.

(I expect you'll get the manual on how to drive your kid mad along with the birth certificate!) ;-)

We might force K8 to change her name to Marie. (kate), Wednesday, 2 November 2005 11:01 (twenty years ago)

(I am teasing, I'm sure you'll be a great mum!)

We might force K8 to change her name to Marie. (kate), Wednesday, 2 November 2005 11:01 (twenty years ago)

I feel so tired today. I had a really awful dream last night which scared & unsettled me so much I had to wake J up. I felt like a 12 year old. It took me about 3 hours to get back to sleep & even then I was drifting in & out. :-(

Panther Pink (Pinkpanther), Wednesday, 2 November 2005 11:02 (twenty years ago)

Aw, that sounds rubbish, Pink! ::hugs::

It's weird when your subconscious starts rumminating like that.

We might force K8 to change her name to Marie. (kate), Wednesday, 2 November 2005 11:04 (twenty years ago)

I haven't had a dream for aaaaages. I miss them.

Come Back Johnny B (Johnney B), Wednesday, 2 November 2005 11:04 (twenty years ago)

That sounded too much like a Morrissey lyric for my liking.

Come Back Johnny B (Johnney B), Wednesday, 2 November 2005 11:05 (twenty years ago)

"Haven't had a dream, in a long time. See the luck I've had, could make a good man turn bad..."

We might force K8 to change her name to Marie. (kate), Wednesday, 2 November 2005 11:06 (twenty years ago)

Everybody sing!!!

"So please, please, please... let me, let me, let me... get what I want, this time. Lord knows, it would be the first time"

::g-kit steps in on the Jag for the pretty guitar solo::

We might force K8 to change her name to Marie. (kate), Wednesday, 2 November 2005 11:06 (twenty years ago)

Oh yes, also, I wrote TGL back asking if he knew any good walks along canals in Berkshire.

And I just had to tell him that he looked adorable dressed as Lawrence of Arabia - since he did actually give me a link to his blog. I hope that wasn't a mistake! Eep!

We might force K8 to change her name to Marie. (kate), Wednesday, 2 November 2005 11:08 (twenty years ago)

Thanks Kate.
Johnny, I am havign so many vivid dreams at the moment, you're welcome to them!

Panther Pink (Pinkpanther), Wednesday, 2 November 2005 11:10 (twenty years ago)

AARRRGGHHHH!! I just sent a request email to a very small select bunch of people that my big boss asked me for, asking people which reports they use regularly, and what problems they've had with them.

I very specifically sent it only to heads of departments, not to the whole staff, because I didn't want a million emails back from a million people with stupid "oh, I want this thing put in..." requests.

So then one of the people on the list went and forwarded it to PRACTICALLY THE WHOLE FLOOR!!! Argh! I'm going to get bombarded.

We might force K8 to change her name to Marie. (kate), Wednesday, 2 November 2005 11:38 (twenty years ago)

i hate Morrissey.

g-kit (g-kit), Wednesday, 2 November 2005 12:04 (twenty years ago)

I hate Morrissey, but I love The Smiths.

We might force K8 to change her name to Marie. (kate), Wednesday, 2 November 2005 12:05 (twenty years ago)

some late info

prisoner font = albertus (with some modifications)

Britain's Obtusest Shepherd (Alan), Wednesday, 2 November 2005 12:14 (twenty years ago)

You love Morris Dancing but you hate Morrissey.

A friend of mine used to eat large amounts of cheese before bed time so she would wake in the middle of the night and fill in another few pages of dream diary.
xpost

beanz (beanz), Wednesday, 2 November 2005 12:14 (twenty years ago)

the smiths would be fine, were it not for Morrissey.

g-kit (g-kit), Wednesday, 2 November 2005 12:16 (twenty years ago)

Albertus, yesterday

http://www.thesciencebookstore.com/scienceguys/albertus.jpg

Oops, I mean:

http://www.identifont.com/samples/adobe/Albertus.gif

We might force K8 to change her name to Marie. (kate), Wednesday, 2 November 2005 12:16 (twenty years ago)

x-post MORRIS DANCING HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH MORRISSEY!!!!

Though if they hit Morrissey with their sticks, it might be good.

We might force K8 to change her name to Marie. (kate), Wednesday, 2 November 2005 12:18 (twenty years ago)

I think I might actually like Albertus Magnus' font there a bit better than the proper Albertus font.

Though I love the pseudo-serifed finishedness of Albertus.

We might force K8 to change her name to Marie. (kate), Wednesday, 2 November 2005 12:19 (twenty years ago)

many xposts

johnney they are PAINTING THE ROSES RED INSTEAD OF WHITE?? what fresh mentalism is this? and how come none of the rest of you picked him up on it pls?

kate just yesmum nomum your mum for a while, bite yr tongue/sit on yr fingers, think of the pretty fuchsia and cobalt house... i am so happy there are different continents so that you and she can be on different ones.

aw pink i hate them dreams :( throws you off balance for a whole day. it'll fade though...

in other news i have made a yummy juice thing with apples and noranges and a lime and some hunny and i am dressed a bit like supergirl if she was in pyjamas but still ready to save the world at the drop of a slice of toast.

emsk ( emsk), Wednesday, 2 November 2005 12:27 (twenty years ago)

...he made another typeface based on 19th Century map legends and gravestones. ::goes all gooey::

Called BENTHAM!!! I asked him if he'd seen mummified Bentham in the pub.

I mean, honestly, fonts, maps, Jeremy Bentham... he's like an ILX dreamboat!

x-post yes yes indeed. Breakfast supergirl.

We might force K8 to change her name to Marie. (kate), Wednesday, 2 November 2005 12:27 (twenty years ago)

I did have, on my old Win95 computer, a "Prisoner" font which was supposedly very accurate, and included a glyph for the Village's penny-farthing logo. I used it to create my own Win95 shutdown screen - the same orange/black colour-scheme as the official one, but with "Be seeing you" in the Prisoner font.

Forest Pines (ForestPines), Wednesday, 2 November 2005 12:46 (twenty years ago)

aw pink i hate them dreams :( throws you off balance for a whole day. it'll fade though...
Thanks! You feeling any better today Supergirl?

Panther Pink (Pinkpanther), Wednesday, 2 November 2005 12:47 (twenty years ago)

Kate's mom once again sounds a troubling soul.

Albertus, he dead.

Good morning, for it is morning over here. I have no idea why I'm up.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 2 November 2005 12:49 (twenty years ago)

Morning Ned! What time is it then?

Panther Pink (Pinkpanther), Wednesday, 2 November 2005 12:49 (twenty years ago)

yesh thanks i am! though i keep waking up in the middle of the night and coughing like my body is trying to expel a harmful spirit and has had to wait until said spirit is asleep before ambushing it. the superdrink is helping me and i think i am gonna throw some echinacea in it. i think i am getting hooked on echinacea. i've been putting it in my bike bottle and everything.

morning ned! you are always up godawful early, sir.

emsk ( emsk), Wednesday, 2 November 2005 12:56 (twenty years ago)

Hi, Ned! If you're up this early, go and listen to The Organ! Emsk and I saw them last night - you would like them! Very Smiths/Chameleons/early Cure!

We might force K8 to change her name to Marie. (kate), Wednesday, 2 November 2005 13:15 (twenty years ago)

The Organ? A RIGHT SUSPICIOUS NAME. So where's a track to hear, then?

I think it is the time switch doing my head in. :-( It is now 5:17 AM and I've already showered and dressed and all that.

I used echinacea once before and it seemed to have good results. Hope it helps!

Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 2 November 2005 13:18 (twenty years ago)

No, I'm not keen on the name, either. Emsk, what's a good track for Ned to look for? I don't know any of the names of the songs. One of the ones with the chimey Smiths guitars and the spooky Chameleons organ.

Argh, my throat is starting to tickle. And I was so CAREFUL not to touch Emsk last night or pick up her FILTHY GERMS.

We might force K8 to change her name to Marie. (kate), Wednesday, 2 November 2005 13:24 (twenty years ago)

GROTESQUERIE. Germs of filth cause bad habits I hear.

(This band better not be the second coming of Interpol. The first was bad enough.)

Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 2 November 2005 13:27 (twenty years ago)

Nothing like Interpol, I promise you.

Bah, I am eating lunch at my desk and people keep coming over and pestering me. What is it that makes people ask "are you busy, can I have a word with you?" when you clearly have a big hunk of broccoli hanging half into your mouth?

I mean, she's Finnish but that only excuses her socialism, clearly. ;-)

We might force K8 to change her name to Marie. (kate), Wednesday, 2 November 2005 13:29 (twenty years ago)

Ask her if she knows Tuomas.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 2 November 2005 13:30 (twenty years ago)

No! I used to hate that, when I went to America and people would ask me if I knew their friend in, say, Newcastle just cause I was English.

She has been teaching us funny Finnish phrases, though. Except I keep forgetting them coz I'm rubbish.

We might force K8 to change her name to Marie. (kate), Wednesday, 2 November 2005 13:36 (twenty years ago)

the organ is a good name cos a) they have a big fuckoff organ sound swirling around everything and b) they are all gurlz DO YOU SEE?

they are an awesome band and i am in love with them. there have been three bands i fell arse-over-tit in love with this year, and this was one of them. um my favourite songs are 'basement band song', 'steven smith', 'brother', 'no one has ever looked so dead', 'love love love'. i think there are mp3s on their site, or something should be streamed at www.ameliasmagazine.com but i dunno if it's up yet. ned ask mint records to send you the album. do you know 'em? i will email you their contact if not.

emsk ( emsk), Wednesday, 2 November 2005 13:36 (twenty years ago)

Please do, thank you! :-) And Kate, I was kidding! Which you surely knew. Okay, off to catch an early bus, will be back.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 2 November 2005 13:40 (twenty years ago)

xxxxxxpost: emsk, I mean they're just tarting the place up un-necessarily:

`Would you tell me,' said Alice, a little timidly, `why you are painting those roses?'

Five and Seven said nothing, but looked at Two. Two began in a low voice, `Why the fact is, you see, Miss, this here ought to have been a RED rose-tree, and we put a white one in by mistake; and if the Queen was to find it out, we should all have our heads cut off, you know. So you see, Miss, we're doing our best, afore she comes, to--' At this moment Five, who had been anxiously looking across the garden, called out `The Queen! The Queen!' and the three gardeners instantly threw themselves flat upon their faces. There was a sound of many footsteps, and Alice looked round, eager to see the Queen.

Glad the gig was good - I'll check these organ guys out then if you're so keen - u usually have a good ose for this kinda thing. I'll track the album out this week.

Come Back Johnny B (Johnney B), Wednesday, 2 November 2005 13:44 (twenty years ago)

A good ouse?

http://www.mkheritage.co.uk/osrg/images/River-Ouse.jpg

We might force K8 to change her name to Marie. (kate), Wednesday, 2 November 2005 13:45 (twenty years ago)

ned - done...

johnney AH! i knew it was familiar from somewhere. couldn't work out if it was true or not.

the organ are ace and they are supporting the wedding present on their nov uk tour:


Date: Monday, November 14, 2005
Venue: Little Civic
City: Wolverhampton, UK

Date: Tuesday, November 15, 2005
Venue: Bivouac
City: Lincoln, UK
w/The Wedding Present

Date: Wednesday, November 16, 2005
Venue: Fez
City: Reading, UK
w/The Wedding Present

Date: Thursday, November 17, 2005
Venue: University SU
City: Leicester, UK
w/The Wedding Present

Date: Friday, November 18, 2005
Venue: Arts Centre
City: Salisbury, UK
w/The Wedding Present

Date: Saturday, November 19, 2005
Venue: Leadmill
City: Sheffield, UK
w/The Wedding Present

Date: Sunday, November 20, 2005
Venue: Shepherd's Bush Empire
City: London, UK
w/The Wedding Present

i will be at london (but prob nearly no tix) and very likely reading too.

emsk ( emsk), Wednesday, 2 November 2005 13:55 (twenty years ago)

A good ouse?

I thought you were above making people fell small cos of typos - I feel rebbish now . . . *boo hoo cries in corner*

I'm feeling far too emotional at the moment. I had a kip at lunchtime on the beanbags in the restroom so it's all a bit too much at the moment. I need more tea . . .

Come Back Johnny B (Johnney B), Wednesday, 2 November 2005 14:01 (twenty years ago)

But I like the River Ouse! it's very pretty!

Doesn't that look pretty and inviting? Wouldn't you feel better if you were paddling in it on a warm day?

We might force K8 to change her name to Marie. (kate), Wednesday, 2 November 2005 14:03 (twenty years ago)

Oh, most definitely, but I'm not, I'm stuck in an sticky office, rain outside, boredom inside, waiting for the end of the day, tired and defeated.

See what I mean? Far too emotional. At least I've got some tea now - I'll be fine in 5 minutes.

Come Back Johnny B (Johnney B), Wednesday, 2 November 2005 14:22 (twenty years ago)

That picture looks like a spot near my house.
I need some sleep! :-(((((

Panther Pink (Pinkpanther), Wednesday, 2 November 2005 14:23 (twenty years ago)

oh, oh! i might have sorted a 2 day a week job at a label :)

emsk ( emsk), Wednesday, 2 November 2005 14:28 (twenty years ago)

Nice one!

Panther Pink (Pinkpanther), Wednesday, 2 November 2005 14:30 (twenty years ago)

Excellent! Is it a cool label?

We might force K8 to change her name to Marie. (kate), Wednesday, 2 November 2005 14:35 (twenty years ago)

Oh, good work emsk! I'm not too sure about the "might of" tho . . .

Come Back Johnny B (Johnney B), Wednesday, 2 November 2005 14:48 (twenty years ago)

it is a cool label! and in brixton har har, plus ca change. i don't wanna say in case it don't happen. but it would be ACE.

johnny, that is because "might of" IS NOT ENGLISH. ffs. might have. jesus christ. state of education in this country, no wonder we're going to the dogs etc etc.

emsk ( emsk), Wednesday, 2 November 2005 15:12 (twenty years ago)

...tries to think of label in Brixton...

...thinks of several, and that does not narrow it down...

Bah, I'm having trouble speaking today. My brain just keeps not coming out with the right things to say, and I keep stuttering and repeating phrases. I think it's cause I didn't get enough sleep last night. Or maybe I'm working too hard. It is slightly problematic.

We might force K8 to change her name to Marie. (kate), Wednesday, 2 November 2005 15:18 (twenty years ago)

We could form our own label in Brixton (I shall be the well-paid but absent overseas contact).

Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 2 November 2005 15:42 (twenty years ago)

Hurrah! And only release dirty dronerock pop. Oh yes. First release - Make An Atonal Racket the astonishing debut by the Spider Maps!

We might force K8 to change her name to Marie. (kate), Wednesday, 2 November 2005 15:44 (twenty years ago)

Today we all talking like Parrots today for no apparent reason.

And I've got an annoying song stuck in my head. Who did the original of "I'm only huuuuuman, of flesh and blood... a man" ? 80s sound, could be Heaven 17 or Human League?

We might force K8 to change her name to Marie. (kate), Wednesday, 2 November 2005 15:48 (twenty years ago)

Human League.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 2 November 2005 16:01 (twenty years ago)

I always thought it was "flesh & blood, I'm made"?!

Panther Pink (Pinkpanther), Wednesday, 2 November 2005 16:43 (twenty years ago)

I am always mis-hearing lyrics, so it could well be. I only just found out today that apparently 5ive did a cover of it! Ha ha!

(This is a fun office, despite all the hard work, we sit around singing annoying songs at one another trying to get them stuck in each others' heads.)

We might force K8 to change her name to Marie. (kate), Wednesday, 2 November 2005 16:48 (twenty years ago)

Argh, my posts are so jumbled & muddled at the moment! :-(

Panther Pink (Pinkpanther), Wednesday, 2 November 2005 16:49 (twenty years ago)

Awww, sweetie. It's cause you've not had enough sleep lately. I'm unable to speak but can type fine (I think) for the same reason!

About an hour ago, I found myself wondering aloud "What does S mean?" to the laughter of my colleagues, going "it comes after T, Kate 2!"

(Sorry, we have so many Kate and Kati's in this department we've started being issued with numbers.)

We might force K8 to change her name to Marie. (kate), Wednesday, 2 November 2005 16:52 (twenty years ago)

I should confine myself to this thread & TITTWIS thread & that's it! People will understand here & there, I hope!

Panther Pink (Pinkpanther), Wednesday, 2 November 2005 17:04 (twenty years ago)

What are you saying there, missy?!?!? The rest of the board isn't good enough for you?!??!

::FLOUNCES OFF IN FIT OF PIQUE::

j/k! j/k!

I'm wondering if my "little project to take up the last half hour of the day" isn't going to turn out to be a crocodile after all.. weex!

We might force K8 to change her name to Marie. (kate), Wednesday, 2 November 2005 17:06 (twenty years ago)

No! :-( Don't or I might cry, I am fragile at the moment. I just meant that I'm trying to give advice & sensible adult conversations when I should be talking about cookies, guitars, flat buying & new jobs with you guys!

Panther Pink (Pinkpanther), Wednesday, 2 November 2005 17:09 (twenty years ago)

OK, this is something silly and trivial that I just feel the need to comment on somewhere. Maybe ILX has changed, maybe I've changed.

Someone started a new thread about the Meyers-Briggs test. Now, I'm very interested in psychology (from a very practical POV) and especially in the MB test, as it has proven to be one of the more effective tests in terms of predicting behaviour (which makes it somewhat more scientific than random personality indicators such as, oh, say, astrology or whatever).

So there are a couple of desultory "I'm this" answers, and then people start just going off on the test, and on psychology in general. And a couple of years ago... even last year, I'd have plunged in with some carefully thought out and/or empassioned responses and answers, and we might get a good debate going about personality and about psychology in general.

Now I can't be bothered. I just think "what are the chances of this turning into stupidity and flamewar in a few posts? What are the chances of any serious or interesting debate about this subject arising here?" And I don't respond.

Maybe it's me that's changed, rather than ILX. But there's a part of me that thinks it's maybe not for the better.

We might force K8 to change her name to Marie. (kate), Wednesday, 2 November 2005 18:02 (twenty years ago)

yes, I'm still here...

But I am going to be the most popular girl in the world tomorrow!

I've just calculated the bonus figures for the whole firm! Ha ha!

(I expect the best mortgage deal in the world EVAH tomorrow for all this work tonight.)

We might force K8 to change her name to Marie. (kate), Wednesday, 2 November 2005 19:13 (twenty years ago)

Kate - I know what you mean about things changing, that's pretty much why I confine myself to certain threads. It's sad from one pov, but I can't help feel inevitable.

Panther Pink (Pinkpanther), Thursday, 3 November 2005 08:59 (twenty years ago)

Good morning, you lot.

I came in today to find that our spam-scanning server had stopped working overnight, because yesterday's database rebuild had managed to soak up all its available disk space just after I left for home last night. Bugger. *Luckily*, nobody seems to have noticed that their emails are coming in a bit delayed.

Forest Pines (ForestPines), Thursday, 3 November 2005 09:09 (twenty years ago)

Morning FP!

Panther Pink (Pinkpanther), Thursday, 3 November 2005 09:17 (twenty years ago)

Morning
Our spam-scanning made everyone else's emails spam-free but would delay my emails by an hour or more. Then the tech people did something I don't understand and it seems ok now

beanz (beanz), Thursday, 3 November 2005 09:20 (twenty years ago)

Our spam-scanning usually takes about a minute, because it's on a fairly slow machine.

Forest Pines (ForestPines), Thursday, 3 November 2005 09:32 (twenty years ago)

I just did that MB test – not sure if it's told me anything useful or challenging but I guess it depends what you want to use it for

beanz (beanz), Thursday, 3 November 2005 09:42 (twenty years ago)

Where's Kate?

Panther Pink (Pinkpanther), Thursday, 3 November 2005 11:38 (twenty years ago)

I'm here, I'm here.

Have spent the morning chasing round my shrink, and the doctor and the bank (grrrr, bastards turned me down for a freaking credit card. I can't believe it. I've been with them SEVEN YEARS, never run an overdraft, never even bounced a check, and they won't even give me a credit card? Fuck that. They're not getting my mortgage, then. (Especially now I'm panicking that I may not even get a mortgage now.) In fact, as soon as I've moved, I'm changing my bank as well.)

Grrr! Arrrggghhh! Stress!

We might force K8 to change her name to Marie. (kate), Thursday, 3 November 2005 13:19 (twenty years ago)

Oh no, bastards!

Panther Pink (Pinkpanther), Thursday, 3 November 2005 13:30 (twenty years ago)

I need to talk to my financial advisor about it and see if this whole "getting a mortgage" business is just a pipe dream. Bah. But I kind of trust the opinion of someone whose job is getting mortgages for people, over a 25 year old bank manager. Grrrrr.

We might force K8 to change her name to Marie. (kate), Thursday, 3 November 2005 13:42 (twenty years ago)

Right, one more report then I'm going down to talk to my advisor!!!

We might force K8 to change her name to Marie. (kate), Thursday, 3 November 2005 14:43 (twenty years ago)

Is it just me that finds it massively unnecessary for Radio 1 news to play a 999 call received on 7th July? I understand it's news that the police are reviewing the calls, but why do they need to play them to the general public?

Panther Pink (Pinkpanther), Thursday, 3 November 2005 14:45 (twenty years ago)

um, okay so why are they broadcasting this?

Ste (Fuzzy), Thursday, 3 November 2005 14:52 (twenty years ago)

The news item is about the police reviewing calls made that day, fair enough, that's news worthy I suppose, but surely you could leave it there. It doesn't need to be compounded with an actual call.

Panther Pink (Pinkpanther), Thursday, 3 November 2005 14:54 (twenty years ago)

It's no more than I would expect from radio 1. You wouldn't get that kind of nonsense from Eddie Mair.

Come Back Johnny B (Johnney B), Thursday, 3 November 2005 15:51 (twenty years ago)

Yeah, that sounds excessive to me, to be broadcasting emergency calls.

Blimey, that was... expensive. But I'm getting all kinds of insurance. That will pay off my mortgage for me in case I keel over with a heart attack and stuff.

I feel so... grown up. Blimey!

We might force K8 to change her name to Marie. (kate), Thursday, 3 November 2005 15:58 (twenty years ago)

I'm sure it's not only radio 1 though. I have no idea who Eddie Mair is!

x-post

Argh, insurance policies that have to run alongside mortgages are so expensive!

Panther Pink (Pinkpanther), Thursday, 3 November 2005 15:59 (twenty years ago)

They offered me redundancy insurance as well, but as soon as I found out it doesn't cover being sacked for cussing out the boss, I said "what's the point of that, then?"

We might force K8 to change her name to Marie. (kate), Thursday, 3 November 2005 16:00 (twenty years ago)

::FLOUNCES OFF IN FIT OF PIQUE::

Oi! I do the flouncing around here.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 3 November 2005 16:02 (twenty years ago)

Sigh. I can't believe the day is nearly over already! But then again, I didn't actually even get here until 1pm.

We might force K8 to change her name to Marie. (kate), Thursday, 3 November 2005 16:57 (twenty years ago)

The 7/7 emergency calls are annoying me less than last night's news footage showing video coverage of a small child being told that his father is dead along, on the off-chance that this may make his father's murderer feel a little bit guilty. That is truly making me hate the world a little bit more right now.

ailsa (ailsa), Thursday, 3 November 2005 17:13 (twenty years ago)

Argh, we just had to go to a silly meeting where they all clapped for one another and who wrote the most business last month. Grrr. Do the support staff ever get awards? NOooooo. But do we still have to go to the meetings? Especially annoying when they are readin from freaking League Tables that I stayed here until 7.30 last night preparing. Gimme that champagne, suckah.

Anyway, good news bad news on the mortgage front. They've approved my mortgage (!!!!!!!) but not for the full amount. Cue much grovelling to the underwriters. I mean, the repayments are LESS than the rent that I was paying when I earned £5 less and I never had a problem swinging that rent. But at least I'm relieved that I'm credit worthy, which the HalifuX0rs this morning made me terrified about.

We might force K8 to change her name to Marie. (kate), Thursday, 3 November 2005 17:50 (twenty years ago)

Clearly the answer is to rob a bank.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 3 November 2005 17:51 (twenty years ago)

Still at the office, but I get to go home in 10 minutes. I spent most of this afternoon sitting in the MD's armchair, installing crap on his new computer.

Forest Pines (ForestPines), Thursday, 3 November 2005 17:51 (twenty years ago)

£5k less. Ha ha!

Does anyone have a spare £14k they want to give me? I mean, what am I supposed to do? Sell a kidney? An ovary?

We might force K8 to change her name to Marie. (kate), Thursday, 3 November 2005 17:54 (twenty years ago)

Good morning! Bright and early, bright eyed and bushy tailed!

I'm in a good mood after a really fun rehearsal last night. Plus, well, it's FRIDAY!!! Hurrah!

We might force K8 to change her name to Marie. (kate), Friday, 4 November 2005 08:42 (twenty years ago)

Morning all! Feeling better today - I've got over me NOT getting a shiny new job (boo hoo!) and relatively motivated for today's action.

How much do ovaries go for these days? I think the market is somewhat deflated - my dad's got a load in the boot of his car that he flogs at the Sunday market.

Oh, and I'm feeling like a berk, since first thing I heard when I got home and switched PM on was R4 playing a 7/7 emergency call. It didn't anger me because it was all in context and that, but it still made me sad - then I realised i had enormous pie on my face.

Come Back Johnny B (Johnney B), Friday, 4 November 2005 08:45 (twenty years ago)

Top of the morning!

I have an exciting meeting this afternoon, and I've found out what classes I'm going to be next semester. Looks like my "resting period" is nearly over and done with.

Matt (Matt), Friday, 4 November 2005 08:51 (twenty years ago)

teaching next semester, duh. The future of the graduates is clearly safe in my hands.

Matt (Matt), Friday, 4 November 2005 08:51 (twenty years ago)

Hurrah!

Fridays for me are either awfully quiet, or awfully stressed (if we have to rush to fix stuff so people can get things done before the weekend). I've never been able to work out if the usual awfully quiet Friday is because noone else can be arsed to do much work (and hence they don't break anything) or because they're all so busy that they don't have time to muck about with stuff they don't really understand (and hence ... well, ditto)

Forest Pines (ForestPines), Friday, 4 November 2005 08:56 (twenty years ago)

Awww, shame about the new job, JB. Do you fancy coming on a walk with us on Sunday?

Matt teacher GUDD you make. Oh yeah.

I also got out of paying my housemonsters the last month's rent by persuading him to just keep my deposit and saying I'd write him a check for any damage I incurred. I can put that off until after the house-buying has gone through.

x-post I hope your Friday is a quiet one, then...

Streatham's Paisley Princess (kate), Friday, 4 November 2005 08:57 (twenty years ago)

first thing I heard when I got home and switched PM on was R4 playing a 7/7 emergency call. It didn't anger me because it was all in context and that, but it still made me sad

I got rather upset hearing that on Channel Four News last night - it didn't help that I'd been rather upset all day after reading the news on this thread too.

Forest Pines (ForestPines), Friday, 4 November 2005 08:58 (twenty years ago)

Heh, I'll be teaching poetry so I can get away with sloppiness, it's expected.

Matt (Matt), Friday, 4 November 2005 09:04 (twenty years ago)

I am glad this week is almost over. It has been such a tough week for one reason & another.
Big hugs to all you regulars!

Panther Pink (Pinkpanther), Friday, 4 November 2005 09:11 (twenty years ago)

Damn sloppy poets. No wonder I am AGAINST POETRY!!! (Sorry, Archel! You excepted, of course.)

Hope you're OK, Pink - did you manage to get a decent night's sleep last night?

Streatham's Paisley Princess (kate), Friday, 4 November 2005 09:16 (twenty years ago)

I love Archel's poetry!

Yep I'm fine darl, had a lovely sleep last night, just a shame I had to get out of my cozy bed this morning! *sigh* Kate, who has your mortgage been agreed with if you don't mind me asking?

Panther Pink (Pinkpanther), Friday, 4 November 2005 09:24 (twenty years ago)

Northern RAWK!!! ::makes international hand sign for RAWK::

Streatham's Paisley Princess (kate), Friday, 4 November 2005 09:26 (twenty years ago)

I've got my mortgage with them too! I was about to suggest them for a better deal, oops!

Panther Pink (Pinkpanther), Friday, 4 November 2005 09:27 (twenty years ago)

My financial advisor is RAWK!!! He knows his stuff.

Streatham's Paisley Princess (kate), Friday, 4 November 2005 09:28 (twenty years ago)

Good, maybe he can sort out my insurances. (critical illness, life insurance etc etc). I don't understand it all & I'm sure I'm paying too much.

Panther Pink (Pinkpanther), Friday, 4 November 2005 09:31 (twenty years ago)

It is quite expensive, assurances and insurances and stuff. I'm trying to make up my mind whether to get full cover or partial cover and for how long. I'll email you his details if you want to talk to him - he's very very good.

Streatham's Paisley Princess (kate), Friday, 4 November 2005 09:32 (twenty years ago)

fuck. i have a cold, for about the seventh time this week.

morning.

Ste (Fuzzy), Friday, 4 November 2005 09:34 (twenty years ago)

Morning! Ugh, I seem to be coming down with something, too. My throat is sore and I keep coughing. I think I pushed my voice too hard last night, as well. Bah. Will go home and get into bed early tonight.

Streatham's Paisley Princess (kate), Friday, 4 November 2005 09:37 (twenty years ago)

seven different colds? That sucks

Matt (Matt), Friday, 4 November 2005 09:38 (twenty years ago)

Seven different days of cold?

Streatham's Paisley Princess (kate), Friday, 4 November 2005 09:39 (twenty years ago)

Good morning
Everyone in the office is sneezing :(
But it's Friday and I don't have to work late or at the weekend :)
But I've got a long boring meeting this afternoon :|
But I won't do much work this morning :&

beanz (beanz), Friday, 4 November 2005 09:40 (twenty years ago)

A walk on Sunday? I might do actually - where are you walking to /from? Is there a thread?

FP, I've stayed well away from that thread - it's something I just don't need.

Come Back Johnny B (Johnney B), Friday, 4 November 2005 09:47 (twenty years ago)

It's the rolling London walking thread - we just haven't bothered to update the title. The walk will be near Reading, I think, so it's closer to you Oxford types that usual. Wind in the Willows country. Because we are soppy and twee.

Streatham's Paisley Princess (kate), Friday, 4 November 2005 09:48 (twenty years ago)

It sounds immense - I'm up for that.

Come Back Johnny B (Johnney B), Friday, 4 November 2005 09:51 (twenty years ago)

That walk sounds ace!

Panther Pink (Pinkpanther), Friday, 4 November 2005 09:53 (twenty years ago)

FP, I've stayed well away from that thread - it's something I just don't need.

Well, I'm glad I didn't, because it turned out to be about someone who was a friend of mine in my S*n*st*r days.

Forest Pines (ForestPines), Friday, 4 November 2005 10:00 (twenty years ago)

I feel really strange reading obit threads about people I don't know. It feels like I'm intruding, butting in on people's private grief. I don't know.

Streatham's Paisley Princess (kate), Friday, 4 November 2005 10:02 (twenty years ago)

I know what you mean Kate, but it's on a public messageboard. However in this case a lot of ppl from ILX knew the girl.

Panther Pink (Pinkpanther), Friday, 4 November 2005 10:07 (twenty years ago)

No, no, don't get me wrong - I don't object to it in any way. I just feel ... weird ... reading it myself. I'm sure other people in other countries felt similar things reading our thread about Liz.

I dunno. It's not a criticism and I'm going to stop before I get misunderstood.

Streatham's Paisley Princess (kate), Friday, 4 November 2005 10:10 (twenty years ago)

I know what you mean. I'll offer condolences, because it's the decent thing to do, and I'm sorry to hear of anyone's loss in this regard, but it does feel strange sometimes.

Matt (Matt), Friday, 4 November 2005 10:25 (twenty years ago)

Oh yeah, sorry, I knew you weren't criticising! Neither was I. I think it's a good thing that people feel they can get comfort from it.

Panther Pink (Pinkpanther), Friday, 4 November 2005 10:28 (twenty years ago)

No, I agree, that it feels strange when people I don't know have died, and other people are upset.

(xpost)

Forest Pines (ForestPines), Friday, 4 November 2005 10:32 (twenty years ago)

er, xpost and this all looks a bit frivolous now, but anyway. pink i hope you've recovered from yr nitemares.

HalifuX0rs

first smile of the day :)

also my friend d (the tall guy who came to the summer party as a britimperialistsafariguy and brought an enormous sackful of sweets) said these people:

http://www.cycletraining.co.uk

are looking for new instructors. they want you to work freelance, at least 2 days a week including some saturdays. how wicked does that sound? nice and flexible and i get cash for helping nervous people learn l33t cycling skillZor! i have taught several people to swim and even more to kayak without any instructor training at all, so i'm sure i can do this.

kate, can i practise on you?

emsk ( emsk), Friday, 4 November 2005 10:33 (twenty years ago)

er, xpost and this all looks a bit frivolous now, but anyway. pink i hope you've recovered from yr nitemares.

Yes thank you, I have. How is your health doing today?

Panther Pink (Pinkpanther), Friday, 4 November 2005 10:36 (twenty years ago)

Eeep! Eeep! I do want to help you practise but you know I'm hopeless with cycling and terrified of bikes and all that. Which might make me an ideal patient, but still.

Streatham's Paisley Princess (kate), Friday, 4 November 2005 10:36 (twenty years ago)

It might be an urban myth, but is it possible to get mild flu-like symptoms after having a flu jab? Cos I have low-level aches in various unusual parts of my body and a headache after being spiked yesterday, and it's low-to-medium annoying.

Markelby (Mark C), Friday, 4 November 2005 10:39 (twenty years ago)

As it's a vaccine, it kind of makes sense that you might.

Forest Pines (ForestPines), Friday, 4 November 2005 10:40 (twenty years ago)

i have the sneezes :(

g-kit (g-kit), Friday, 4 November 2005 10:43 (twenty years ago)

Makes total sense Mark! Have some soup & wrap a hot towel around your head!

Panther Pink (Pinkpanther), Friday, 4 November 2005 10:43 (twenty years ago)

my elf is vastly improved, thank you. and my! what a beautiful day. must leave the house at some point. perhaps i will go and pick up our wireless thingy.

kate kate, exactly! i have seen you on a bike so i know you can do it fine, it's just about the confidence an ting.

emsk ( emsk), Friday, 4 November 2005 10:49 (twenty years ago)

i had the opportunity to get a FREE bike if i ordered enough A4 paper. i didn't do it. in hindsight: DOH!

g-kit (g-kit), Friday, 4 November 2005 10:53 (twenty years ago)

But think of all the trees you saved!

Forest Pines (ForestPines), Friday, 4 November 2005 10:55 (twenty years ago)

htf does that work? like through one of those stationery companies? they sent us mad gifts a few times - kites, badminton sets, coffee makers.

xpost yebbut fp because of not having a bike this means more car fumes and more death! er, i suspect my logic is flawed.

emsk ( emsk), Friday, 4 November 2005 10:57 (twenty years ago)

I hadn't got on a bike for ages, then I borrowed my brothers once when I was over his house for the weekend to pop into town to buy some milk, and I was TERRIFIED. Of course it's all about confidence, but knowing that doesn't help when you're crapping yourself at all the cars THAT ARE TRYING TO KNOCK YOU OVER FOR FUN OH NO!

I can't imagine Kate on a bike - she doesn't seem like the bicycling type. Unless it was a penny farthing and she's dressed as a Victorian lady, in which case it all makes sense.

Come Back Johnny B (Johnney B), Friday, 4 November 2005 10:59 (twenty years ago)

yeah, a stationary firm. i got a skateboard anyways.

g-kit (g-kit), Friday, 4 November 2005 11:01 (twenty years ago)

Trees will grow back if forests are managed properly. Fossil fuels will not grow back. The ozone layer will not grow back.

So Emsk's logic does actually make sense.

Anyway! Yes, I would quite fancy riding a penny farthing except they are VERY HIGH UP and I would be scared of heights as well as being on a scary imbecile pony.

Streatham's Paisley Princess (kate), Friday, 4 November 2005 11:04 (twenty years ago)

we're not allowed to accept those stationary gifts.

I found this out trying to claim for dozens of cool items, which included stereos, radio control cars, nasa pens. and was told right at the last minute that I couldn't have them.

Ste (Fuzzy), Friday, 4 November 2005 11:07 (twenty years ago)

Ha ha, I have just convinced my department to have our Xmas party at Cafe Pacifico - which Emsk knows as the site of BOOZE APOCALYPSE TWO: RETURN TO COVENT GARDEN as they do MARGARITAS THE SIZE OF YOUR HEAD!!!

I am drooling just thinking about their amazing peach salsa. Dammit, Kissy Chrissie was supposed to bring us Peach Salsa from Texas last time she visited but she never gave it to us. Bah.

Streatham's Paisley Princess (kate), Friday, 4 November 2005 11:09 (twenty years ago)

Actually, doesn't the ozone layer ebb and flow? So I guess it must grow back in some sense.

Markelby (Mark C), Friday, 4 November 2005 11:16 (twenty years ago)

I have to choose the Christmas Hamper I'd like & I don't know which one I should go for!

Panther Pink (Pinkpanther), Friday, 4 November 2005 11:18 (twenty years ago)

The one with the most CHEESE!!! of course!

Streatham's Paisley Princess (kate), Friday, 4 November 2005 11:24 (twenty years ago)

Haha, ah yes of course!

Panther Pink (Pinkpanther), Friday, 4 November 2005 11:27 (twenty years ago)

Oh, and Emsk! What's the best email addy for you now that you're not at St0ne Im any more? Miss AMP is trying to get hold of you.

Streatham's Paisley Princess (kate), Friday, 4 November 2005 11:33 (twenty years ago)

I've not wandered on here for a while... I only seem to come onto this thread when I feel down in some way. How is everyone else?

tissp! (the impossible shortest specia), Friday, 4 November 2005 12:13 (twenty years ago)

Aww, what's wrong Tissp?

Panther Pink (Pinkpanther), Friday, 4 November 2005 12:14 (twenty years ago)

Ha, wrote a really long post, but couldn't finish it before someone's come to get me to go to the pub, so I'll tell you in a bit. Still, going to the pub... things looking up already!

tissp! (the impossible shortest specia), Friday, 4 November 2005 12:24 (twenty years ago)

Haha, have fun!

Panther Pink (Pinkpanther), Friday, 4 November 2005 12:30 (twenty years ago)

I have become addicted to watching the constant "Cache size adjusted" messages that my test database prints to the console. I keep wanting to read out "The cache size is ... falling" in a Fenella-Fielding-as-in-The-Prisoner voice.

Forest Pines (ForestPines), Friday, 4 November 2005 12:33 (twenty years ago)

I get that whenever my HD is defragging - the blocks moving about is the most hypnotic thing ever, worse than a lava lamp.

Come Back Johnny B (Johnney B), Friday, 4 November 2005 12:36 (twenty years ago)

Oooh yes, I do that too. Although the XP defragger isn't as hypnotic as the old Win95/98 one.

Forest Pines (ForestPines), Friday, 4 November 2005 12:37 (twenty years ago)

Someone slap me upside the head, and just remind me again, stay the f*xk off relationship threads. Especially ones started by men. They just make me too angry.

Think about fonts and quills and subreport links and the hallumi sammich I'm going to have for lunch.

Streatham's Paisley Princess (kate), Friday, 4 November 2005 12:42 (twenty years ago)

Or think about wind in the willows. That's what I'm doing.

Come Back Johnny B (Johnney B), Friday, 4 November 2005 12:44 (twenty years ago)

Ah yes! Badger Badger Badger! Mr Mole! Mr Rat! Mr Toad... oh blimey, it's all thinly veiled class conflict, isn't it? ;-)

Streatham's Paisley Princess (kate), Friday, 4 November 2005 12:45 (twenty years ago)

http://images-eu.amazon.com/images/P/B00004VVR3.02.LZZZZZZZ.jpg

Panther Pink (Pinkpanther), Friday, 4 November 2005 12:48 (twenty years ago)

Thinly veiled class conflict and a healthy dose of paganism. Very English.

Matt (Matt), Friday, 4 November 2005 13:01 (twenty years ago)

Eurgh, what was she thinking? Her poor children!
http://newsimg.bbc.co.uk/media/images/40981000/jpg/_40981788_madonna_getty.jpg

Panther Pink (Pinkpanther), Friday, 4 November 2005 13:02 (twenty years ago)

Women her age should not wear hot pants like that.

Go back to the tweed, please, Madge!!!

Streatham's Paisley Princess (kate), Friday, 4 November 2005 13:04 (twenty years ago)

Turning into Cher

beanz (beanz), Friday, 4 November 2005 13:06 (twenty years ago)

Jesus Pink, I've just had lunch.

Matt (Matt), Friday, 4 November 2005 13:12 (twenty years ago)

Sorry guys!

Panther Pink (Pinkpanther), Friday, 4 November 2005 13:13 (twenty years ago)

xxxxxpost
kate, i can still get my email from there, but also surnamefirstname@gmail.com.

I hadn't got on a bike for ages, then I borrowed my brothers once when I was over his house for the weekend to pop into town to buy some milk, and I was TERRIFIED. Of course it's all about confidence, but knowing that doesn't help when you're crapping yourself at all the cars THAT ARE TRYING TO KNOCK YOU OVER FOR FUN OH NO

heh the key apparently is to ride assertively. of course that's nigh on impossible when you're in the state described above... i was actually pleasantly surprised when i started cycling in london by the number of people (esp black cabs!) who aren't trying to kill you - several times in a journey they'll pause to let me through when they really don't have to. being a gurl may possibly help; not riding like a twat definitely does and so does making eye contact before making a move. acknowledging someone when they do something for you, even if it's no more than they're legally supposed to do, i think is a good move too. yes some are trying to kill you, but not most, and there are hazards of THICK PEOPLE (eg orange-faced city bint opening a taxi door RIGHT IN MY FACE 2 weeks ago) but there are hazards of THICK PEOPLE everywhere...

emsk ( emsk), Friday, 4 November 2005 13:19 (twenty years ago)

Bored with subreports now.

Streatham's Paisley Princess (kate), Friday, 4 November 2005 14:35 (twenty years ago)

I'm so bored with testing my test database, I'm trying to do email-flirting with the slightly kinky woman at the other office who keeps telling me she wants a good whipping.

Forest Pines (ForestPines), Friday, 4 November 2005 14:39 (twenty years ago)

Trying?

Come Back Johnny B (Johnney B), Friday, 4 November 2005 14:42 (twenty years ago)

And subreports suxor. U mean the acces ones? I'm never much good at Access reports at the best of times, but having to try and put them together on a Friday afternoon, esp. when a cute chixor that I've fancied for a while is sitting opposite me and keeps swanning past my desk, is something of a challege.

Come Back Johnny B (Johnney B), Friday, 4 November 2005 14:43 (twenty years ago)

Well, I'm not very good at it.

Forest Pines (ForestPines), Friday, 4 November 2005 14:54 (twenty years ago)

Not in Access, but in Crystal, which is considerably easier. But still. Just annoying trying to keep them all separate.

Maybe I should give up and answer some email instead. But I'm getting disenchanted with the idea of TGL. Even though this email is, actually, quite long and chatty for him. I'm not disenchanted with him, I'm disenchanted with the idea. Of boys in general. No offense or anything. Sigh.

Streatham's Paisley Princess (kate), Friday, 4 November 2005 14:57 (twenty years ago)

"Um, no whips, would a severe telling off do?" :-)

xpost

Matt (Matt), Friday, 4 November 2005 14:58 (twenty years ago)

BTW Kate, that reminds me - The Co-Worker was moaning the other day because he'd had to move from Crystal to Access to do a particular cross-database report, because - he said - Crystal can't do UNION queries. Is that true? Any hints for him?

Forest Pines (ForestPines), Friday, 4 November 2005 14:59 (twenty years ago)

I don't know. I've never tried to do a UNION query on it.

Streatham's Paisley Princess (kate), Friday, 4 November 2005 15:00 (twenty years ago)

Maybe I need a new crush. Bah.

Streatham's Paisley Princess (kate), Friday, 4 November 2005 15:06 (twenty years ago)

I hate the after lunch slump. I always feel rubbish at this time of the day.

Streatham's Paisley Princess (kate), Friday, 4 November 2005 15:08 (twenty years ago)

Aww, what's wrong Tissp?

Right, back from pub now.

Three things bothering me lately, which is a lot but they're all interrelated and I'm feeling greedy ;)

First, I fell down the stairs last week (Mill Rd area housing == death trap) and really fucked up my leg. I have a massive bruise where I landed! That got better after a few days, but about five days ago the muscles from my kneecap down started to really ache, and have been doing consistently since then. The problem is is that it's preventing me from sleeping properly; I keep waking up in the middle of the night in agony.

Which leads me onto number two, namely that I haven't slept properly in ages. Coupled with the past week or so being really busy and hectic--I just don't feel like I've had any time by myself to calm down--it's making me really miserable and irritable with everyone. Not good.

On second thoughts I don't want to comment on the third thing publicly on ILX. But it's bad (for me--I haven't murdered anyone. That didn't deserve it. Ahem). Let's just say I'm a spineless mess of a fuckup.

(Thanks for listening--I feel crap just complaining about this stuff, but better out than in I guess...)

tissp! (the impossible shortest specia), Friday, 4 November 2005 15:29 (twenty years ago)

Now you are just being deliberately obscure.

Sucks about the injury, though. Can you not take one of those 10-hour tablets that you get from the Dr - alleve or whatever it's called here? Or something with codeine in it? That'll make you sleep through any pain.

Streatham's Paisley Princess (kate), Friday, 4 November 2005 15:32 (twenty years ago)

Good morning. *collapses* SATURDAY CAN'T GET HERE SOON ENOUGH.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 4 November 2005 15:36 (twenty years ago)

By "Dr" I mean chemist. D'oh.

Morning, Ned.

Streatham's Paisley Princess (kate), Friday, 4 November 2005 15:37 (twenty years ago)

aw ned! i send you rejuvenation in the form of thoughtwaves.

emsk ( emsk), Friday, 4 November 2005 15:40 (twenty years ago)

I know plenty of "doctors" that can make you feel better - their work is more holistic than centering on a particular part of the body tho . . .

Come Back Johnny B (Johnney B), Friday, 4 November 2005 15:40 (twenty years ago)

Yay to Kate and Emsk the good. :-)

Chemists, doctors, barbers, they're all the same. (Previous statement copyright 1450 or so.)

Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 4 November 2005 15:41 (twenty years ago)

I'm getting really bad at writing recently - I had to think REALLY hard about whether it was "their" or "they're" on that last sentence. What's wrong with me? I think I need a holiday.

Come Back Johnny B (Johnney B), Friday, 4 November 2005 15:42 (twenty years ago)

There's a great scene in this book I'm reading (set circa 1800) where all the seamen from the first ship beat up all the seamen from the second ship so that they can tie their ship up in the better spot because they have a PHYSICIAN aboard rather than a lowly Surgeon. Hah.

Streatham's Paisley Princess (kate), Friday, 4 November 2005 15:43 (twenty years ago)

Tissp have you seen a doctor about your leg?

Doughnut Day doesn't seem to have taken off here after all. It's Friday but nobody wanted me to go and buy them doughnuts. What the hell is wrong with these people?

beanz (beanz), Friday, 4 November 2005 15:44 (twenty years ago)

hehe, seamen

g-kit (g-kit), Friday, 4 November 2005 15:44 (twenty years ago)

YOU GREAT PERVERT. ('Great' in the complimentary sense.)

Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 4 November 2005 15:46 (twenty years ago)

Xxx-post – Best essay I ever wrote at uni was about medical practitioners and how they all were socially ranked and fitted together. I went on about how it wasn't a ladder model so much as a venn diagram combined with a pyramid or something. The tutors seemed to like it although in retrospect it sounds like I was tripping.

beanz (beanz), Friday, 4 November 2005 15:48 (twenty years ago)

I've not gone to the doctor yet. I always think it'll get better. I know I should go. At the moment I'm taking ibuprofen but obviously it's no good for all of the night :( Interesting about that 10 hour stuff though...

tissp! (the impossible shortest specia), Friday, 4 November 2005 16:14 (twenty years ago)

Go to the doctor or I shall never review your albums. And if that doesn't make you tremble in your shoes, nothing will!

Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 4 November 2005 16:15 (twenty years ago)

If you've got pain lasting more than an ibuprofen for several days now, it's time to see the doctor.

I like this pyramid, Beanz, it sounds fascinating. Socio-economic class and status and skill levels all linked in together. Doctors vs. Physicians vs. Surgeon-Barbers vs. Dentists vs. Vetinarians vs. Non Specific But Qualified Nursing Types: FITE!

Streatham's Paisley Princess (kate), Friday, 4 November 2005 16:16 (twenty years ago)

Haha Ned that actually genuinely worries me!

Interestingly we might have been offered a gig. On Monday night. Not sure I can deal with that short notice (especially with how tired I am)...

I'm doing too much complaining. Here is a list of good things happening to me lately:

1) Being cooked for tonight
2) Went to the pub today
3) Have two bands going quite nicely
4) Friend coming to stay this weekend
5) Late showing of Primer at the cinema that I'm looking forward to
6) Getting a new Powerbook, soon as I get my finger out.
7) Work seems to be going well.

tissp! (the impossible shortest specia), Friday, 4 November 2005 16:18 (twenty years ago)

I'm back and it's time for the cooler. How was everyone's weekends?

Rrrr, I need lemsip...

Streatham's Paisley Princess (kate), Tuesday, 8 November 2005 09:28 (twenty years ago)

Good morning
Good thanks. You?
I've booked holidays! 9 Dec is my last day in the office until 3 Jan, yay. Going to Barcelona between xmas and new year.

beanz (beanz), Tuesday, 8 November 2005 09:39 (twenty years ago)

Hurrah for Barcelona! I wish I were going somewhere sunny. Bah.

I'm still ill. I stayed in bed all Saturday and thought I was better, but then I went rambling on Sunday and it PISSED down with rain so I'm all ill again, and had to take yesterday off work, sitting around sniffling and eating treacle pudding.

However, I did get another email from TGL. He's been explaining the difference between his press and the press I used to use to print my comics. :-)

Streatham's Paisley Princess (kate), Tuesday, 8 November 2005 09:44 (twenty years ago)

On the downside I was in a car accident on Sunday and my neck is killing me.
On the upside I start a new job this afternoon.

Matt (Matt), Tuesday, 8 November 2005 09:50 (twenty years ago)

Oh no, Matt! Are you OK? What happened?

Good luck with the new job, though.

Streatham's Paisley Princess (kate), Tuesday, 8 November 2005 09:51 (twenty years ago)

My boss came to see me at FIVE TO EIGHT this morning to say: "what are you up to?" FIVE TO EIGHT. I definitely wasn't very awake.

Plus, he told me to do lots of nasty, nasty database things - copying database A to database B, messing around with database B's tablespaces, then waiting a few days and applying database A's transaction logs to database B. Which sounds like a really, really nasty thing to do to a poor defenceless database.

I have a headache, and I'm only on my second cup of tea.

Forest Pines (ForestPines), Tuesday, 8 November 2005 10:00 (twenty years ago)

Turning right we got ploughed into. Further evidence for the defence in my struggle to avoid learning to drive EVER if I can get away with it. Could have been a lot worse, and it gave me an excuse to get really, really drunk. I got away with a banged knee and a bit of whiplash, the driver has some funky looking burns on his arms from the compressed gas for the airbag.

Matt (Matt), Tuesday, 8 November 2005 10:04 (twenty years ago)

our canteen staff are k-lame today. they haven't stocked the vending machines for a week now and worse than that there are no cups any of the watercoolers. So I have to drink coke for my morning sup. and on my birthday too!

(see how i did that?)

Ste (Fuzzy), Tuesday, 8 November 2005 10:07 (twenty years ago)

Happy birthday
Never let it be said that I couldn't take a hint

Matt (Matt), Tuesday, 8 November 2005 10:18 (twenty years ago)

Eeek, Matt, I'm glad you're OK

Forest Pines (ForestPines), Tuesday, 8 November 2005 10:30 (twenty years ago)

Five to eight? As in 7.55? that's positively antisocial.

I used to have a policy that I just wouldn't acknowledge any requests until the actual start of my working day (8.30). Now I get around this problem by not turning up until 8.35

x-x-x-post! Blimey! That sounds awful.

Streatham's Paisley Princess (kate), Tuesday, 8 November 2005 10:34 (twenty years ago)

friday was company FUN day in milton keynes. clay pigeon shooting / lunch / go karting. managed to get through the whole day without touching either a gun or a go-kart. still, the ear plugs will come in handy for Melt Banana on thursday. and nice to be outside.

missed the brian wilson documentary but grandad's funeral service was held in the same cemetary in cheltenham. haven't watched the New Romantic Boys And Girls thing yet but bits i saw looked as good as the previous 2.

have been writing perl scripts at work to mung apache logs into sql for insertion into databases. but today i'm back writing java 8(

koogs (koogs), Tuesday, 8 November 2005 10:51 (twenty years ago)

PostgreSQL comes with some sample Apache configuration scripts to automatically put its logfile lines into a SQL database. The only problem is, they don't work very well on Apache 2.x

Forest Pines (ForestPines), Tuesday, 8 November 2005 10:55 (twenty years ago)

friday was company FUN day in milton keynes

Apart from this sentence being a complete oxymoron, Andy, I have to say you missed out by not go-karting. What was your concern? It's fantastically good fun. I hope you didn't eschew lunch too...

Markelby (Mark C), Tuesday, 8 November 2005 11:00 (twenty years ago)

I missed the first 15 minutes of the Girls and Boys doc so I missed the New Romantics. :-(

Streatham's Paisley Princess (kate), Tuesday, 8 November 2005 11:01 (twenty years ago)

Argh, I'm an idiot.

I just sent off an email about a refund to what I thought was the advisor, but turns out it went to the customer.

I am so not awake or paying attention today. Blargh. :-(

Streatham's Paisley Princess (kate), Tuesday, 8 November 2005 11:05 (twenty years ago)

yeah go-karting is way fun. never done the clay pigeon thing though.

Ste (Fuzzy), Tuesday, 8 November 2005 11:05 (twenty years ago)

ooh kate are they showing it again? the new romantics bit was very pretty.

go-karting is fun! (and even tho it's against ALL my principles, so is shooting a gun :( ...)

emsk ( emsk), Tuesday, 8 November 2005 11:11 (twenty years ago)

Brian Wilson? Surely Brian Jones. I missed it as well, due to being asleeping.

Streatham's Paisley Princess (kate), Tuesday, 8 November 2005 11:14 (twenty years ago)

...and I have to confess I would actually like to shoot at clay pidgeons even though I am very very very against guns. But you use a shotgun which isn't really like a real gun and clay pidgeons don't have feelings. Oh dear. I need to stop wearing the tweed, it is taking over my brain.

Streatham's Paisley Princess (kate), Tuesday, 8 November 2005 11:16 (twenty years ago)

shotguns scare the bejesus out of me to be honest.

i'm with you Matt about the non driving excuse. There was a cop programme on telly recently and a guy on a motorbike got pulled over on the motorway for speeding. The guy argued against the possibility of him having an accident in that his bike was in tip top order, had powerful brakes, and he was an expert road user.

Um. Yeah okay but WHAT ABOUT THE OTHER FULES ON THE ROAD ?!

Ste (Fuzzy), Tuesday, 8 November 2005 11:26 (twenty years ago)

Actually, that's true. I have only seen a real shotgun once or twice and they do scare me. I just like the *idea* of shooting clay pidgeons. Maybe if I could do it with a bow and arrow. I'm quite good at archery. But you would expect me to be with my surname.

Streatham's Paisley Princess (kate), Tuesday, 8 November 2005 11:27 (twenty years ago)

Wow Matt hope you feel better soon. Glad it wasn't worse though it sounds pretty unpleasant.

beanz (beanz), Tuesday, 8 November 2005 11:29 (twenty years ago)

d'oh, yes, brian jones. i did say i missed it! went to bed and read at about 9:30. have been feeling very tired since the clocks went back.

(i still have the new romantics thing. could put it on shiny disk for you)

i am completely lacking the motorsport gene, it's all driving around in circles to me - pointless at best, wasteful at worst. besides, the safety video they showed beforehand was presented by dani behr and shane richie and if that's not a sign that all racing fans are cockfarmers then i don't know what is. that and the way the drivers haven't grown out of spraying champagne even after all these years.

(is it only me that wonders why team building exercises are usually centered on destruction and competition rather than creation and collaboration?)

(had the vegetable lasagne for lunch. eating out in country pubs is also not fun if you're vegetarian but it turned out ok. i had other issues with the lunch...)

we do, much to my chagrin, have a custom database table for our reporting (it records all sorts of everything generated from jboss server as well as the website advert referrals) so mod_log_sql is not really an option. still, it means i get to spend days using perl debugger (which is, to me, fun) rather than netbeans.

koogs (koogs), Tuesday, 8 November 2005 11:33 (twenty years ago)

eating out in country pubs is also not fun if you're vegetarian but it turned out ok.

Oh, tell me about it... I hate lasagne, as well. But that's why I always get cheese and pickle ploughmans joy if I have the choice.

I don't think I've ever been on a "team-building exercise" but they sound bloody awful.

Mmmm, shiny disc - unless Emsk downloaded it? I have got to get broadband in my new house. I've decided that it's more important than telly, so I'll get broadband before I get a telly lisence.

Streatham's Paisley Princess (kate), Tuesday, 8 November 2005 11:37 (twenty years ago)

(is it only me that wonders why team building exercises are usually centered on destruction and competition rather than creation and collaboration?)

This is a great point. One which we brought up at one of our team builds. It was an indoor affair, rather low key so the games were all a bit non-physical but that's not important.
Anyway during one event (the lego building contest) we established that there wasn't enough lego parts to complete the puzzle and so all 3 teams ended up working together to make just the one final model. Much to the confusement of the managers and referees. It was a moral victory for the groundforce though.

Ste (Fuzzy), Tuesday, 8 November 2005 11:42 (twenty years ago)

ver bike training people are looking for people only in brent and redbridge :( the guy said all their instructors live in hackney which really i could have guessed if i'd thought about it for ten seconds. i must have sounded really crestfallen when he said it though, because then he asked me if i would be willing to travel. "of course! i've got a bike!" i said, but looking at the map brent would prob take me about an hour to get to (which is fine since i wouldn't be on the icky tube) and redbridge doesn't seem to exist (which would pose a slight problem).

xpost oh but sometimes lasagne in country pubs is teh awesome, esp if it's served with chips: yay! simple white carbohydrate overload! once though (in suffolk or essex, i forget which) i ordered a veg lasagne and it was FULL OF SWEETCORN ugh eck bleurgh filthy filthy! as any fule kno corn should only be eaten directly off the cob smothered in salty butter num num, not have itself denigrated by being put in tins then employed to ruin perfectly good pizzas/similar. i started off trying to eat them and pretend there weren't that many but they soon defeated me an i had to pile them up on the side of my plate and soon there were the EUROPEAN SWEETCORN MOUNTAIN taking over our table. now every time i order a lasagne i have to make them check there is no sweetcorn in it and they look at me like i'm a mentalist because OBVIOUSLY THERE SHOULD NOT BE SWEETCORN IN LASAGNE but ugh eurgh puke puke it have scarred me for life.

team-building heh i have never been on one but i did my work experience in an outdoor eucation centre. the week i was there there was a group of kids from a deaf school staying there and i had a wicked time with them and learned a shitload of sign language, but one day there was a group of businessmen doing team-building so i got sent off with them to help them build rafts and paddle canoes and the like. they seemed quite into it, and it was all constructive, fun stuff.

no i didn't download it i jus watched it on the telly.

emsk ( emsk), Tuesday, 8 November 2005 11:53 (twenty years ago)

Ste, surely that is the point of the team building exercise - to get you working as a team! So using all of your legos together is what they would have WANTED you to do! After all, effective working is about sharing the legos!

I'm not sure I even know where Brent is! Way out Northwest, yes, no? Aw, that's a shame, though.

I don't like pasta so all lasagna is suspect. Plus the EEEEEEVIL sweetcorn as you mention. I'd rather have ploughmans lunch with CHIPS. Chips are urgent and key in any country pub situation. Chips and beer, two great tastes that go great together.

Streatham's Paisley Princess (kate), Tuesday, 8 November 2005 11:59 (twenty years ago)

Hi all. Happy birthday! xpost

Poor kate - hope u get better soon!

I've been given a fun new project to play with - it involves erroneous transfers and implementing +1kWh to deemed reads so we don't end up paying a transportation charge. It looks like good fun, and if I do well then I get a bottle of wine, which is nice.

I've got all the girls and boys thing shown so far - I t0rr3nt3d them all off ukn0v4. I can put them on shiny disc as well if you want. Oh, and I've got that Monarchy program - I must get round to watching it, but you're quite welcome to that one too if you fancy?

And team building events are rubbish - they just remind me of how much I really don't like the people I work with. I mean, they're fine at work because I don't have to socialise with them, but I fear lunchtimes these days because they're all so rubbish.

Come Back Johnny B (Johnney B), Tuesday, 8 November 2005 12:02 (twenty years ago)

Oooh, all this torrenting. When I get my house and have TV I will want shiny discs of all of it!

Oh no, I went upstairs to look for the manager, and discovered that the hott Boris Johnson lookylike has cut off all his floppy hair and now has one of those silly sticky uppy does. I am not pleased. It slightly diminishes his hottness.

Streatham's Paisley Princess (kate), Tuesday, 8 November 2005 12:06 (twenty years ago)

kate, no they didn't see it coming. You're half right. The point was to have people 'within' the teams to work together (some members had to go off to view a picture of the final model and return to describe it to the builders) and thus to compete against two other teams. But the organisers messed up and allocated the wrong bricks to the teams.

They could have lied and said, oh yeah that's we wanted to happen well done teams for working together. But they didn't and instead looked dumbstruck and just admitted to messing up.

and surely you were meant to say "sharing the lego" ?

*ducks*

Ste (Fuzzy), Tuesday, 8 November 2005 12:08 (twenty years ago)

Oh no, don't start the great lego/legos/leggoes debate, oh no!

Streatham's Paisley Princess (kate), Tuesday, 8 November 2005 12:09 (twenty years ago)

Argh, I've just tipped over into crankiness. Bah. Perhaps I should have lunch.

Streatham's Paisley Princess (kate), Tuesday, 8 November 2005 12:34 (twenty years ago)

Is there a great debate on that? I'd have thought that it's obvious:

Here is a piece of lego.
Here is some lego.

What's all this legoes malarky?

And lunch is always good. Mind you, I've been snacking all morning, so I'm not in the mood for lunch now, althouhg I could do with another cup of tea.

Come Back Johnny B (Johnney B), Tuesday, 8 November 2005 12:36 (twenty years ago)

I'm with you on the lego lack-of-debate, Mr B

Forest Pines (ForestPines), Tuesday, 8 November 2005 12:38 (twenty years ago)

For gods sake, is there nowhere I can go to be free of this pedantery?

You're not doing much to solve my crankiness. :-(

Streatham's Paisley Princess (kate), Tuesday, 8 November 2005 12:40 (twenty years ago)

Argh, one lender (N0rthern RAWK) has just turned down the mortgage because it is next to a restaurant. So we are trying another lender - but if this one won't give me a mortgage for the same reason, then I'm screwed. And will have to find another house. Waaahhh!

Streatham's Paisley Princess (kate), Tuesday, 8 November 2005 13:44 (twenty years ago)

Why is being next to a restaurant cause to turn down a mortgage? Surely the logic "next to restaurant = no-one will buy it" is defeated by the very fact you're seeking a mortgage hence trying to buy it! Is it to do with restaurant causing added depreciation? or artificially lower the market rate? Surely by HAVING a restaurant there, the rate is as low is it can go. Or am I missing something major here?

Come Back Johnny B (Johnney B), Tuesday, 8 November 2005 13:47 (twenty years ago)

Well, partly it's health risk, that restaurants bring rats (like Lambeth doesn't have a health department!), partly it's an insurance risk, because restaurant brings an increased risk of fire. And partly it's supposedly the resale value being affected - errrr... DUH!!! clearly if there's one person who thinks an Indian takeaway next door is an added extra bonus USP, there's more people like me.

Streatham's Paisley Princess (kate), Tuesday, 8 November 2005 13:49 (twenty years ago)

As an aside to a couple of other threads - is it really that unreasonable to expect people to be able to disagree with other people without being rude to them? You can disrespect an opinion without disrespecting the person expressing it.

Streatham's Paisley Princess (kate), Tuesday, 8 November 2005 15:05 (twenty years ago)

It's not unreasonable but it's kind of unrealistic - out of however many hundred people reading these threads, there'll be some who are moved to ire and some who are just assholes.

Markelby (Mark C), Tuesday, 8 November 2005 15:16 (twenty years ago)

Well, yet another interesting thread has been sent down the shitter this afternoon. And a second looks set to go the same way.

I'm just frustrated. When you see interesting discourse being shouted down by people who can't behave like decent human beings. Do you ever get the desire to say, quite firmly "INDOOR VOICE" to some people?

Streatham's Paisley Princess (kate), Tuesday, 8 November 2005 15:25 (twenty years ago)

Really? I've been out all afternoon.

It was just supposed to be a bar job (that's all I want, a bit of peace and quiet after the last management gig nearly burnt me out completely) but no, looks like I'm going to be training all the staff up and generally bossing people around again.

Oh well.

(and thanks to well wishers re: my sunday game of dodgems, ta)

Matt (Matt), Tuesday, 8 November 2005 15:28 (twenty years ago)

I've spent all sodding day redoing the corporate brochure for another department. I have photoshop and quark on my computer therefore I can do everything for everyone, clearly. Actually it's kind of fun, but it means I've done none of my own work today. And all I really wanted to do today was hang about on ilx.

beanz (beanz), Tuesday, 8 November 2005 15:40 (twenty years ago)

I am just trying to solve stupid formatting issues because Crystal won't let you use IsNull(condition) with a date field. Argh.

Streatham's Paisley Princess (kate), Tuesday, 8 November 2005 15:42 (twenty years ago)

oh dear i've started clock watching for the final hour of the day. And I was doing so well too.

It's been a very rainy afternoon here and it doesn't like it's going anywhere in a hurry.

Ste (Fuzzy), Tuesday, 8 November 2005 15:55 (twenty years ago)

I'm just so bad tempered today. It doesn't help being sick and cranky and exhausted. I can't take cuntishness right now. I should get off ILX but my databse isn't working either. Argh.

Streatham's Paisley Princess (kate), Tuesday, 8 November 2005 15:57 (twenty years ago)

D'oh! Finally. I had my ands and ors in the wrong order. Grrrrr.

Streatham's Paisley Princess (kate), Tuesday, 8 November 2005 16:03 (twenty years ago)

Suede is carrying me through the morning.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 8 November 2005 16:04 (twenty years ago)

actually we have the window open now and the sound of the traffic splashing through the rain is rather pleasant. might be making me sleepy though.

luckily i've managed to avoid reading any threads with trollish behavior on today. first time for everything.

Ste (Fuzzy), Tuesday, 8 November 2005 16:07 (twenty years ago)

It's not even trollishness. I've come to expect that. It's just more like... you know, some threads are actually quite serious. You don't HAVE to make a joke out of every bloody thread. Sometimes people could stand to use a little sensitivity and think "is this really an appropriate place for childish quips?"

Maybe I should get a work filter put on ILX. I think if I get broadband at home, I will.

Streatham's Paisley Princess (kate), Tuesday, 8 November 2005 16:09 (twenty years ago)

Or maybe I'm just in such a bad mood now I'm noticing it more. I don't know.

Streatham's Paisley Princess (kate), Tuesday, 8 November 2005 16:09 (twenty years ago)

We just had a power-cut here. Very exciting, all the alarms went off and it felt kind of apocalyptic.

Matt (Matt), Tuesday, 8 November 2005 17:26 (twenty years ago)

I left early yesterday. My boss disappeared so I just shut my computer down and went about 4.30. Had a pizza and went to bed.

And now my Oracle machine isn't working. Grrrrrrr.

How are you all this morning? I'm sick of being sick, that's for sure.

Streatham's Paisley Princess (kate), Wednesday, 9 November 2005 08:48 (twenty years ago)

Sorry to hear you aren't well Kate! I also went after an hour yesterday cos I was feeling rub. Contemplating ringing in sick again today as I still feel a little rough.

I'm waiting for John Lewis to ring me to say my Powerbook has been delivered. The tension is killing me!

tissp! (the impossible shortest specia), Wednesday, 9 November 2005 08:58 (twenty years ago)

Ooooh, new powerbook!

Morning all! Hope ur Oracle gets well soon, kate!

I'm SOOOO tired today. I stayed up last night and watched the MADDEST film EVER - it involved dwarfs taking over a penal colony and had lots of very long scenes involving dwarfs running around destroying things and laughing maniacaly. My head is somewhat not here today - I should be able to code this sodding database tho.

Come Back Johnny B (Johnney B), Wednesday, 9 November 2005 09:08 (twenty years ago)

Oooh, Powerbook!

I think I have heard of this film, Johnney. Someone else was describing it a while ago with equal disbelief.

Streatham's Paisley Princess (kate), Wednesday, 9 November 2005 09:09 (twenty years ago)

Morning
Fed up with being able to say hi in the morning then not getting a chance to post any more during the day... what are your strategies for making time?

beanz (beanz), Wednesday, 9 November 2005 09:17 (twenty years ago)

I don't have strategies for making time, I just keep getting projects to a point where they need someone else's input/comments and then the people I need input from never get back to me. Sigh. It's born of frustration.

Streatham's Paisley Princess (kate), Wednesday, 9 November 2005 09:21 (twenty years ago)

Even Dwarfs Start Small: http://uk.imdb.com/title/tt0065436/

It's one of those films that doesn't fit easily into the rubbish/brilliant sliding scale. Which kinda makes it brilliant, I guess. Small scary dwarfs laughing and destroying stuff whilst speaking scary german is most disconcerting. Every single frame is really weird, and to keep that up for an entire film is quite an achievement. I think I'm gonna have to watch it again.

Strategies for making time for ILX - do some work, then when you're bored, post some to ILX. GIve yourself 10 minutes, then back to the grindstone. However, a compromise can be described as a state where nobody is happy - your work suffers, AND ILX gets less attention. Hurumph.

Come Back Johnny B (Johnney B), Wednesday, 9 November 2005 09:22 (twenty years ago)

morning! sorry you're still sick kate :( i am still sick too. not enough to stop me doing anything but enough to be annoying. this has been dragging on for months. perhaps it IS bird flu. also my sinuses hurt by my eyes.

our house is full of billowing clouds of smoke because there is a bit of charred breadstuff jammed in the toaster but people just keep making toast anyway. i am going to talk to that record label this afternoon!


emsk ( emsk), Wednesday, 9 November 2005 09:26 (twenty years ago)

Cool! Good luck with the record label.

Are you going to Fonda at the Windmill this Friday?

Streatham's Paisley Princess (kate), Wednesday, 9 November 2005 09:28 (twenty years ago)

I'm sanding happy vibes to you emsk, and welcoming vibes to the record company!

Come Back Johnny B (Johnney B), Wednesday, 9 November 2005 09:29 (twenty years ago)

whatwhatwhat? they never tell me ANYTHING :(

emsk ( emsk), Wednesday, 9 November 2005 09:37 (twenty years ago)

I just got it on the Windmill's emailout.

Streatham's Paisley Princess (kate), Wednesday, 9 November 2005 09:41 (twenty years ago)

humph. i might go. obv i love seeing them but the last time i saw them was WEIRD and i seem to be quite easily overbalanced this week.

t'anks for ver label luck :)

emsk ( emsk), Wednesday, 9 November 2005 09:50 (twenty years ago)

Where/when did you see them last? I haven't seen them in AGES - not since the Water Rats gig (that I had trouble getting into, too - I hate that place's door policy) bah.

Streatham's Paisley Princess (kate), Wednesday, 9 November 2005 09:58 (twenty years ago)

also i have to get some documents certified to say that yes this is me and this is where i live, and it has to be done by a lawyer/teacher/religous leader/doctor/mortgage broker/banker/similar. obv i do not know any of these people (apart from thru kate by proxy i guess); i move in scruffier circles. i called the company and asked if i should just wander into a school/mosque/bank and ask someone to sign the stuff and they just said yes, it doesn't matter if they actually know if it's me or not. as long as it's "any professional person," the nice lady on the other end of the phone said airily (but i suspect her definition of "professional" is different to mine). ??? what exactly is the point of this? why do they expect those people to be any more honest than a shopkeeper or a bus driver anyway?

xpost i saw them at the spitz a couple of months back. peculiar night.

emsk ( emsk), Wednesday, 9 November 2005 10:01 (twenty years ago)

That's really f*cked up! Do you not have a doctor? I think the last time I had to do something like that, I had my doctor sign it.

I mean, if you want me to sign it, I can do it! Heh heh, since I'm all "professional" now. I just need to find some headed paper...

Streatham's Paisley Princess (kate), Wednesday, 9 November 2005 10:05 (twenty years ago)

yeah i have a doctor but he is always incredibly busy (well, i have only met him once, but i've been there for jabs and stuff (mmm jabs) and there are always a zillion people in there). i mean, this is poor, dear old hackney. people live on top of each other and aren't that healthy.

emsk ( emsk), Wednesday, 9 November 2005 10:13 (twenty years ago)

Ring up and ask if someone in the office can do it. I mean, it takes 2 minutes, and it really is part of their job.

Streatham's Paisley Princess (kate), Wednesday, 9 November 2005 10:15 (twenty years ago)

yeh this is a good idea. thank you...

emsk ( emsk), Wednesday, 9 November 2005 10:23 (twenty years ago)

Hrmmm, I've been thinking about this now (sorry, this morning's topic for discussion is "Identity") and wondering about the religious leader bit. I mean, the other occupations make sense - doctor, bank manager, lawyer, teacher - because those are all people that you have to show some kind of ID to get access to, and whom you will have some ongoing professional relationship with. And often they're subject to professional codes whereby they are not allowed to lie, and face professional discipline if they do lie about who you are.

However, the religious leader bit is weird. I suppose it's an anachronistic holdover from the days when a baptism and a birth certificate were synonymous. I mean, priests, etc. have some kind of legal status as they can perform marriages and the like. But still. It seems odd.

Streatham's Paisley Princess (kate), Wednesday, 9 November 2005 10:25 (twenty years ago)

Yeah, funny about the ID thing. I've just got a credit agreement through the post to sign today, and it asks for the typical "two forms of ID" and says that they must be originals, addressed directly to me, from the last six months etc etc.

However, with everyone moving to online statements and such like, how much longer before it's actually pretty difficult to get hold of these forms of ID?

tissp! (the impossible shortest specia), Wednesday, 9 November 2005 10:36 (twenty years ago)

I will never move to online statements. I'd like to be able to check my balance online, but I want archived documents at the end of every financial period.

I work with live data enough to know that it MOVES if you don't pin it down.

I don't have bills, so it's problematic, but I do have endless coreespondance from doctors. (Though I'd probably black out the actual text if asked to supply an original.)

Streatham's Paisley Princess (kate), Wednesday, 9 November 2005 10:41 (twenty years ago)

Hell yeah I want paper records. I spent a fair amount of my day reading ilx posts from people who work with databases, so I know how careful I should be.

beanz (beanz), Wednesday, 9 November 2005 10:46 (twenty years ago)

Ha ha, yes. I mean think about it. Every time you give info to a bank or a mortgage provider, you'd got some dumbass like me watching over your data. Heh heh.

Streatham's Paisley Princess (kate), Wednesday, 9 November 2005 10:47 (twenty years ago)

Oh no, and the hott Boris J lookylike was down here in one of the offices, right perpendicular with my desk, but then one of my colleagues asked me to do some WORK and now he's gone and I didn't get to oogle him as he left. Bah.

Streatham's Paisley Princess (kate), Wednesday, 9 November 2005 10:53 (twenty years ago)

I mean, the other occupations make sense - doctor, bank manager, lawyer, teacher - because those are all people that you have to show some kind of ID to get access to, and whom you will have some ongoing professional relationship with. And often they're subject to professional codes whereby they are not allowed to lie, and face professional discipline if they do lie about who you are.

but she said they don't even have to know me! and seriously, who trusts lawyers any more?

and yeah tissp, the online bills thing - there's even (admittedly v slight) pressure to shift *everything* to online billing - save 30p a year by paying your phonebill online! shift your council tax payments to direct debit and save money by not having to pay for stamps! (seriously we got a thing off hackney council saying that) and be entered into a draw to win a limited edition (ie no one wants them) pink ipod! - type stuff.

emsk ( emsk), Wednesday, 9 November 2005 10:55 (twenty years ago)

G'day all.

I'm feeling very sensible and grown up because I had flu and pneumonia vaccinations this morning. the nurse went on at length about how shit it was going to make me feel, which I thought was rather counterproductive. Feeling okay so far, though.

I wonder how Ste's head is, today?

Matt (Matt), Wednesday, 9 November 2005 11:10 (twenty years ago)

Ste's head was predictably late in work today

Ste (Fuzzy), Wednesday, 9 November 2005 11:17 (twenty years ago)

Argh. Just talked to my advisor again. I could be sparing myself so much hassle if I could come up with another £4000 by the end of the month. Short of selling a kidney, I've got no ideas. :-(

Anyone want to buy a kidney? Only slightly abused.

Streatham's Paisley Princess (kate), Wednesday, 9 November 2005 11:24 (twenty years ago)

Actually, the last time I threatened to actually sell an ovary, (for real) my father gave me $1000 not to do it.

Now I kinda wish I'd done it, as it's not like I ended using my own ovaries after all. :-(

Streatham's Paisley Princess (kate), Wednesday, 9 November 2005 11:26 (twenty years ago)

You need to raise £4000 by the end of the month? I feel a sitcom coming on . . .

Come Back Johnny B (Johnney B), Wednesday, 9 November 2005 11:34 (twenty years ago)

If only I had a Japanese fanbase, I'd auction tracks on my NaSoAlMo album. Sigh.

Streatham's Paisley Princess (kate), Wednesday, 9 November 2005 11:37 (twenty years ago)

Is that your synthpop album? "Selling synthpop to the Japanese" sounds like a euphamism.

Come Back Johnny B (Johnney B), Wednesday, 9 November 2005 11:52 (twenty years ago)

AAAARRRRRRRGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!

And now it looks like this might not even happen at all, as my mother now thinks that her cash is in EUROS not pounds after all.

HOW CAN YOU MISTAKE A EURO FOR A POUND?!?!? Especially in cash?

Streatham's Paisley Princess (kate), Wednesday, 9 November 2005 12:54 (twenty years ago)

Couldn't you get a personal loan for the £4k?

ailsa (ailsa), Wednesday, 9 November 2005 12:58 (twenty years ago)

No, because that would change the amount of money I could borrow. The whole reason I'm getting more than my income multiples is because I have no other outstanding loans or credit. If I get a loan for £4k, then that's £4k I can't mortgage. And yes, they do check that kind of thing.

Streatham's Paisley Princess (kate), Wednesday, 9 November 2005 12:59 (twenty years ago)

Couldn't someone else get the loan and give it to you and you could pay it back for them?

ailsa (ailsa), Wednesday, 9 November 2005 14:03 (twenty years ago)

Are you volunteering? ;-)

Streatham's Paisley Princess (kate), Wednesday, 9 November 2005 14:04 (twenty years ago)

I have a nasty feeling my credit rating is shot, otherwise I'd gladly lend you a hand.

Come Back Johnny B (Johnney B), Wednesday, 9 November 2005 14:50 (twenty years ago)

I mean, none of this matters if my mum's money is in Euros not Pounds, because I won't even have the money to make the lower deposit. :-(

This is just so freaking depressing. I just can't face the stress of looking for another house that I don't even get to buy (I will have to rent, so I will have to look for a house anyway) let alone the stress of househunting for something to buy which I can afford and isn't total shit. :-( :-(((((((

Streatham's Paisley Princess (kate), Wednesday, 9 November 2005 14:53 (twenty years ago)

I can't even get a £100 overdraft at the moment, so 'fraid not.

ailsa (ailsa), Wednesday, 9 November 2005 14:57 (twenty years ago)

This is just unreasonably depressing. I mean, if it were just about the mortgage companies being cunts, I would just about be able to cope. But now I feel like my mum is just being a freaking IDIOT. Which is uncharitable, as it's very kind of her to give me any money at all. But to mistake Euros for Pounds... Argh!

Streatham's Paisley Princess (kate), Wednesday, 9 November 2005 15:01 (twenty years ago)

I know this makes me sound like a total ungrateful cnut but I just feel so stressed right now, and this isn't helping.

Streatham's Paisley Princess (kate), Wednesday, 9 November 2005 15:02 (twenty years ago)

Kate, check ur email.

Come Back Johnny B (Johnney B), Wednesday, 9 November 2005 15:16 (twenty years ago)

Thanks for the offer, but I'm in the midst of big bargaining with my mum. I mean, it's not really my mum, it's the bloody banks.

Streatham's Paisley Princess (kate), Wednesday, 9 November 2005 15:19 (twenty years ago)

Sometimes I just need a big angsty SCREEEEEAAAAAAAMMMMM!!! Or perhaps chocolate. It sucks when you can feel the stress settling around your neck and shoulders like a vice.

Streatham's Paisley Princess (kate), Wednesday, 9 November 2005 15:53 (twenty years ago)

Chocolate, mmmm.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 9 November 2005 15:55 (twenty years ago)

Yet again with the "do these things... do these things... do these things..." but as soon as I come up with any kind of questions I'm left on my own, twiddling my thumbs waiting for people to get back to me. Sigh.

Streatham's Paisley Princess (kate), Wednesday, 9 November 2005 16:13 (twenty years ago)

As for me, I am sleepy. But SF on Friday!

Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 9 November 2005 16:14 (twenty years ago)

I'm sleepy. You're sleepy. EVERYBODY'S sleepy. Except Kate, who is the world's most stressed person.

Come Back Johnny B (Johnney B), Wednesday, 9 November 2005 16:19 (twenty years ago)

I've had too much coffee to be sleepy. And I want chocolate.

Streatham's Paisley Princess (kate), Wednesday, 9 November 2005 16:20 (twenty years ago)

I just got back from a meeting I'd hoped would last a lot longer so I could go straight home, but instead the other people had to catch a train so it finished early :(

beanz (beanz), Wednesday, 9 November 2005 16:43 (twenty years ago)

should i stay at work for another hour to ease my guilt of arriving in work at 10 this morning? It would mean missing Neigbours.

Ste (Fuzzy), Wednesday, 9 November 2005 16:45 (twenty years ago)

Isn't there an ombibus? I don't know. I'm always for going home early.

And now I'm facing this dilemma of having agreed to help someone with their NaSoAlMo project, and I do want to - but I am so stressed out right now that I can't do it at the moment. I'm wondering if I should bow out gracefully or wait and see what happens with this mortgage situation that is causing all the stress. Which I hopefully should have a decision on by the end of this week...

But right now I just feel like... I don't need one more thing to feel hassled about.

Streatham's Paisley Princess (kate), Wednesday, 9 November 2005 16:48 (twenty years ago)

If you help someone do their NaSoAlMo, how is it a SoAl any more?

beanz (beanz), Wednesday, 9 November 2005 16:54 (twenty years ago)

no neighbours omnibus I'm afraid.

kate go home and get in the bath with some radon or something

Ste (Fuzzy), Wednesday, 9 November 2005 16:55 (twenty years ago)

Well, I said I'd do the singing on it. He's still writing it. But right now I can't get my voice above a croak.

x-post WHAT?!?!? Radon? Are you suggesting I commit suicide? I mean, things are bad, but I don't think they're that bad yet. :-(

Streatham's Paisley Princess (kate), Wednesday, 9 November 2005 16:55 (twenty years ago)

Ste it is urgent and key that you see neighbours today. Connor has to shoot a bikini catalogue. Comedic misunderstandings ensue.

Sadly a very Joe-light episode, however. In fact he's not in it at all.

Radon? Are you sure?

x-post I think he meant Radox

Matt (Matt), Wednesday, 9 November 2005 16:58 (twenty years ago)

Oh. I know he has a hangover, but I thought it seemed a bit misanthropic that Ste suggest I get in a bath filled with poisonous gas. I'm feeling a bit touchy right now.

Streatham's Paisley Princess (kate), Wednesday, 9 November 2005 17:01 (twenty years ago)

All the more reason to have a nice bath. Not one filled with radioactive gas. Anyway, you're on clay in London, not granite, so it shouldn't be a problem?

Matt (Matt), Wednesday, 9 November 2005 17:04 (twenty years ago)

oh blimey sorry, ha ha, i really did mean radox. i've never even heard of Radon to be honest. what a horrible slip up. :(

okay thanks matt, i will make it home in time.

Ste (Fuzzy), Wednesday, 9 November 2005 17:05 (twenty years ago)

Right I'm off, see you tomorrow
Kate I hope you get to relax tonight! I hope to be as inert as radon... god physics jokes are weak. Or maybe just me.

beanz (beanz), Wednesday, 9 November 2005 17:34 (twenty years ago)

hello.
i've been off sick, coughs and sneezes. much better now.
how is everyone?

g-kit (g-kit), Thursday, 10 November 2005 09:08 (twenty years ago)

Good morning
Glad you're feeling better G.
I'm happy cos my weekly meeting's been cancelled and cos our team came 2nd in a pub quiz last night.

beanz (beanz), Thursday, 10 November 2005 09:29 (twenty years ago)

meeting cancellation is always a great feeling.

i am in a snipey mood this morning, i need to simmer before i say something awful to the wrong person

Ste (Fuzzy), Thursday, 10 November 2005 09:35 (twenty years ago)

for instance:

Him: "so you going to be buying an xbox 360 soon?"
Me: "No, the xbox was shit and there were no games for it"
Him: "There were just as many for the PS2"
Me: "No there bloody wasn't. There were hundreds more titles for pS2"
Him: "But most of the PS2 games were all childish"
Me: "Shut up that's a pathetic thing to say. I'm refusing to continue this conversation"

Ste (Fuzzy), Thursday, 10 November 2005 09:55 (twenty years ago)

Hi all. I've had the world's most hectic morning, all rushing around and . . . shock horror . . . actually doing work! But I feel a little better for it, I must admit.

That xbox conversation sounds like the sort of thing I would have, but instead of something innocous like xboxs, I'd end up dissing world religions or something and end up alientaing the entire office.

The lack of kate this mornign concerns me - maybe she DID use radon after all . . .

Come Back Johnny B (Johnney B), Thursday, 10 November 2005 10:18 (twenty years ago)

"christianity and islam and judaism are rubbish, they've got hardly any gods! only one in fact, and they've got to share it with each other! and hinduism's just childish."

emsk ( emsk), Thursday, 10 November 2005 10:27 (twenty years ago)

morning all. i got hit off my bike yesterday! totally fine though, thanks partly to wearing a helmet. and it wasn't the driver's fault (or mine). yes where are the kate??

emsk ( emsk), Thursday, 10 November 2005 10:30 (twenty years ago)

you got hit? crikey hope you're okay.

i wouldn't even like to consider getting started on world religion debates in this office
*imagines images of Hell and tortured souls*

i still feel awful about that slip up, i apologise sincerely kate, it was a genuine mistake.

Ste (Fuzzy), Thursday, 10 November 2005 10:47 (twenty years ago)

Yow what happened emsk? You ok?

beanz (beanz), Thursday, 10 November 2005 10:47 (twenty years ago)

nah it was fine - was coming out of a little one-way street to turn right into a slightly larger two-way street, there was a big rubbish truck behind me which as i got to the junction pulled up alongside and in front of me (why bother? i don't get it), stopping me from seeing the taxi that wasn't there a second ago and stopping the taxi's driver from seeing me. so i went into the side of the taxi (rather than the taxi into the side of me thank fuck). the bike took the brunt of it though i somehow got spun round 180 degrees, landed hard on my bum on the road (lucky it is squishy) (my bum not the road) and my head whipped back and smacked into the taxi (hence thank the lord i am fashion-oblivious enough to wear a helmet). the taxi driver was an ANGEL - he immediately stopped, made sure i was ok, made me take his name and address, made me give him my details and made his passenger give me his card in case i wanted a witness for anything, offered to drive me and my bike to a) a hospital, b) a doctor, c) home, d) brixton (where i was going) and swore righteously about the rubbish truck driver for not stopping. i think it looked a lot worse than it was because i had a little posse of passersby being all concerned. yesterday i couldn't really feel anything but today my right upper arm and back area aches quite a lot. bike is fine too!

emsk ( emsk), Thursday, 10 November 2005 11:07 (twenty years ago)

Blimey, glad you're OK Emsk!

Panther Pink (Pinkpanther), Thursday, 10 November 2005 11:11 (twenty years ago)

lucky you were wearing the hemlet yes. do you think you could have been really seriously injured without it? or maybe just a little concussed?

Ste (Fuzzy), Thursday, 10 November 2005 11:12 (twenty years ago)

i don't think i would've got any "proper" serious injuries like brane dammidge or whatever, but yeh, concussion maybe, and also OW OW OW! i've been terribly lucky with bike crashes so far, both the ones i've avoided and the ones i've not been able to avoid.

emsk ( emsk), Thursday, 10 November 2005 11:18 (twenty years ago)

Bloody hell, what an adventure! Ah well, so long as you're cool.

Come Back Johnny B (Johnney B), Thursday, 10 November 2005 11:19 (twenty years ago)

Yikes! Glad you're okay (well, obviously). Blimey!

Matt (Matt), Thursday, 10 November 2005 11:21 (twenty years ago)

Blimey, Emsk! That's terrible! I hope that you (and Ariadne) are OK!

Thanks for the concern, guys, but it's Thursday which is my doctor day. Only I got to the doctor to find out that it was not actually my day and I'm not due again until next week. But at least I got to sleep in, which I needed due to being woken up all night by the deathrattle coughing.

Are you feeling better, G? I've had the death lurgy but have had to be coming in anyway. Bah.

Streatham's Paisley Princess (kate), Thursday, 10 November 2005 11:29 (twenty years ago)

yes thank you, much better. looking forward to band practice/rehearsal tonight. might take it easy on the shouting though.

g-kit (g-kit), Thursday, 10 November 2005 11:31 (twenty years ago)

Glad you're ok emsk.

How can I tactfully persuade the marketing department not to send out letters with terrible spelling, punctuation and grammar and with three or four emboldened words a paragraph? I've tried gently and diplomatically pointing stuff out before, but it keeps happening. I reckon they don't care that much, as long as the words say what they want. But I think if I were a potential subscriber, I'd be put off by carelessness. If they don't care enough about me to send me a properly thought-out letter, why should I give them my money?

beanz (beanz), Thursday, 10 November 2005 11:37 (twenty years ago)

aw thanks people! and yep ariadne she fine too, she ended up with her front wheel and handlebars pointing in opposite directions but she does that herself anyway half the time so it was fine.

it reminded me of when i was 16 and thought i was immortal.

phew kate deathrattle coff :( that's def what i had. it's settled down now into a sniffle and early morning sore throat.

oh oh the label thing went well :) they've given me some stuff to do at home over the next few days and i'm going in for a day next week to see how it goes. they want their warehouse rearranged before they move it to a distributor's... i had a hard time persuading them how much i love doing stuff like that (eg i get a kick out of rearranging the fridge every couple of weeks. it is like playing tetris!) but got there in the end...

emsk ( emsk), Thursday, 10 November 2005 11:41 (twenty years ago)

xpost Find someone cool and tell them what you just wrote. If they're cool, they'll listen. If you can't find anyone cool, then they won't listen no matter HOW tactfully you put it.

Well done emsk! Yay for you!

Come Back Johnny B (Johnney B), Thursday, 10 November 2005 11:42 (twenty years ago)

Arrrggghhh, that kind of thing really f*cks me off, Beanz. If a service cannot be bothered to check simple spelling errors, I don't think they will be bothered with other simple aspects of performance. That's elementary marketing.

x-post excellent! I'm glad to hear it, Emsk, that sounds like it will be good!

Streatham's Paisley Princess (kate), Thursday, 10 November 2005 11:42 (twenty years ago)

bad spelling certainly puts me off reading some of my mails.

If they don't care enough about me to send me a properly thought-out letter, why should I give them my money?
Just tell them this !

Ste (Fuzzy), Thursday, 10 November 2005 11:43 (twenty years ago)

Label thing sounds really good. Hooray!

If they won't listen no matter how tactfully I put it, perhaps it's time for dropping the tact and opening a can of GRAMMATICAL WHOOP ASS.

(I feel like the unhip teacher trying to be down wit da kidz)

beanz (beanz), Thursday, 10 November 2005 11:47 (twenty years ago)

Incidentally Matt I was rather disappointed with the Conner photo shoot shenanigans in last nights Neighbours, not nearly enough tins of paint falling on peoples heads for my liking.

But the scene with Paul Robbo's leg being kicked across the room more than made up for it.

Ste (Fuzzy), Thursday, 10 November 2005 11:53 (twenty years ago)

beanz, if you like I can pretend to be a subscriber and send them a helpful email pointing out their errors...?

Markelby (Mark C), Thursday, 10 November 2005 11:56 (twenty years ago)

beanz, tell them straight, seriously. if people send me something with fucking stupid-arse unnecessary spelling/grammatical/punctuation mistakes in it i stop reading and hit delete/chuck it in the recycling - fuck you, if you can't be bothered to write then i can't be bothered to read. (obv this applies to official communications, not emails from friends etc.)

haha xpost, tell them you asked some people on, uh, this interweb messageboard thing but uh anyway yeah, and they all said they wouldn't give misspelled letters the time of day...

it's IMPORTANT.

emsk ( emsk), Thursday, 10 November 2005 12:00 (twenty years ago)

Thiz ees alsow whie I no longar wurk in markitting.

Streatham's Paisley Princess (kate), Thursday, 10 November 2005 12:01 (twenty years ago)

it doesn't matter if the people writing it can't spell or punctuate (well, it does, but ykwim) but seriously, they should have someone proofing it. i'll do it for fifty quid.

emsk ( emsk), Thursday, 10 November 2005 12:08 (twenty years ago)

http://www.bbc.co.uk/comedy/guide/images/400/alloallo_4.jpg
"I live ditty drinrock boos"

Come Back Johnny B (Johnney B), Thursday, 10 November 2005 12:11 (twenty years ago)

oh oh oh, i got a Pirates computer game. called Pirates. it's great.

g-kit (g-kit), Thursday, 10 November 2005 12:13 (twenty years ago)

haha johnny!

emsk ( emsk), Thursday, 10 November 2005 12:14 (twenty years ago)

Emsk you think we have a budget? Bwahahahahaha(sob)

Thanks Markelby but there are so few subscribers and all the letters are targeted by name, so they'd smell a rat. Then they'd fire me for caring too much, or something.

beanz (beanz), Thursday, 10 November 2005 12:15 (twenty years ago)

Why are they in marketing if they have no concept of presentation dictating opinion???

tissp! (the impossible shortest specia), Thursday, 10 November 2005 12:16 (twenty years ago)

i dunno beanz what's it for? sorry i should prob know what ppl do by now but bear of littel brane etc etc.

emsk ( emsk), Thursday, 10 November 2005 12:17 (twenty years ago)

I don't think I understand. Sigh.

And I cannot believe what has just happened... I am a dumbass. ::bashes head against desk::

See, yesterday when I came in, my Oracle machine wasn't working. First the monitor wouldn't come on, so I had to plug it back in. Started it up and couldn't get access to the network. So, in my illness, not wanting to deal with it, I shouted for the helpdesk. They hadn't done a bloody thing on it all day so today I sent a nasty note saying could they deal with it or I wasn't doing one more database user thing for them.

So the guy writes me back and says can I check all the cables. The ONE DAY I am wearing a kind of tight skirt to work, and I have to crawl around under the desk. Sure enough, the network cable is unplugged.

D'OH! I am the dumbest of dumbasses, and I have become the kind of user that sysadmins and helpdesks pass around funny emails about because I am too stupid to check that my computer is plugged in.

Streatham's Paisley Princess (kate), Thursday, 10 November 2005 12:25 (twenty years ago)

Ah bless. Give it 5 years you'll be phoning 999 whenever the batteries need changing on your TV remote.

Come Back Johnny B (Johnney B), Thursday, 10 November 2005 12:27 (twenty years ago)

Sigh. I'm running the terrible risk of becoming cranky today.

Streatham's Paisley Princess (kate), Thursday, 10 November 2005 12:30 (twenty years ago)

Oh don't become cranky - if you play nicely, I'll give you a cookie?

Come Back Johnny B (Johnney B), Thursday, 10 November 2005 12:36 (twenty years ago)

johnny you are on thin ice! kate, why did they unplug it in the first place? surely if you'd not unplugged it yourself you'd have no reason to think it was unplugged?

emsk ( emsk), Thursday, 10 November 2005 12:37 (twenty years ago)

I have no idea how it all got unplugged. it's very perplexing.

OK, I am going mad. Someone's phone keeps ringing playing the American National Anthem just under subliminal level, at the same volume as the ringing in my ears and it's driving me nuts.

Streatham's Paisley Princess (kate), Thursday, 10 November 2005 12:41 (twenty years ago)

Someone's phone keeps ringing playing the American National Anthem

WHAT SORT OF MENTALISTS DO YOU WORK WITH??

emsk ( emsk), Thursday, 10 November 2005 12:46 (twenty years ago)

I have discovered that one of my colleagues, her mum is in the States at the moment, so she has the phone programmed to ring the Stars and Bars if it's her mum ringing. Which makes sense - I have a different ringtone for mum phonecalls.

Streatham's Paisley Princess (kate), Thursday, 10 November 2005 12:53 (twenty years ago)

not good enough.

emsk ( emsk), Thursday, 10 November 2005 12:59 (twenty years ago)

Kate don't worry about the unplugged cable, everyone does something silly several times a week and that one's pretty light. There are lots of threads about much worse embarrassing workplace incidents.

Emsk I work on a magazine about healthcare finance. I do all the writing and commissioning and subbing and layout and everything. Other people sell the magazine and adverts.

beanz (beanz), Thursday, 10 November 2005 14:01 (twenty years ago)

AARRRRGGGHHHHH!!! If I got a promotional material from a MAGAZINE that was all misspelled and non-grammatical, I would buy neither the magazine nor ESPECIALLY an ad in said magazine for fear they would f*ck it up.

Especially healthcare, because healthcare is something it is SO IMPORTANT to not make careless errors in. If they can't be bothered to correct basic spelling, how bad must their factchecking be?

Streatham's Paisley Princess (kate), Thursday, 10 November 2005 14:04 (twenty years ago)

EXACTLY!!! God it's so annoying. If we look illiterate and careless, what's the point of subscribing?

beanz (beanz), Thursday, 10 November 2005 14:07 (twenty years ago)

Luckily the magazine itself is perfectly put together...

And another thing – you run complicated database thingies that nobody understands so everyone else in the office probably thinks you're a tech deity anyway.

beanz (beanz), Thursday, 10 November 2005 14:10 (twenty years ago)

yes, but how is someone going to be able to TELL that the magazine is perfectly put together if the promotional material for it isn't?

Streatham's Paisley Princess (kate), Thursday, 10 November 2005 14:15 (twenty years ago)

Apologies Ste, but it was a pretty good episode overall, I thought. Today's a bit sub-par though. I fear Susan's going to cop off with that professor bloke. Wrong, all wrong.

Matt (Matt), Thursday, 10 November 2005 14:55 (twenty years ago)

Talking of unplugged cables: we received a printer today on loan: a couple of weeks' free trial to see is we like it. The chap who delivered it said "don't worry, I'll set it up and everything for you - just tell me what network address to give it". After he left, I wondered for a while why I couldn't print anything to it, until I realised that he'd plugged the thing in and set everything up on it, but hadn't bothered to plug its network cable in.

Forest Pines (ForestPines), Thursday, 10 November 2005 16:20 (twenty years ago)

ROCK! THE! F*CK! ON!!!!!!!

My mortgage just got accepted! Blah blah, with the usual considerations that the valuation/surveyor all checks out and everything. But phew!

I've been so on edge about this the past two days and now I'm so relieved.

Is buying a house always such an emotional roller coaster?

Streatham's Paisley Princess (kate), Thursday, 10 November 2005 16:22 (twenty years ago)

Fantastic!

Matt (Matt), Thursday, 10 November 2005 16:25 (twenty years ago)

Huzzah!

tissp! (the impossible shortest specia), Thursday, 10 November 2005 16:29 (twenty years ago)

And I just had a random spontaneous email from TGL talking about Tallis motets! ::SWOONS::

Life gets better and better.

Streatham's Paisley Princess (kate), Thursday, 10 November 2005 16:34 (twenty years ago)

I spoke too soon.

Streatham's Paisley Princess (kate), Thursday, 10 November 2005 17:31 (twenty years ago)

Morning, people. Wake up, wake up, it's Friday. At last. How are you today?

I'm feeling really rubbish this morning. Didn't even get home until nearly 10 last night, was too tired to eat supper, so I had a yoghurt drink and went to bed. Didn't sleep, tossing and turning and coughing and thoughtworms. Bah. I hope to go home at a reasonable hour and spend the weekend in bed.

Pink Stress Pig (kate), Friday, 11 November 2005 09:28 (twenty years ago)

Nobody here? Not talking to me? Don't like me very much now?

That's OK, I don't like me very much right now.

And the system just crashed, taking out a report I'd spent half an hour working on. :-(

Stress Pig (kate), Friday, 11 November 2005 09:52 (twenty years ago)

i'm excited about a computer game that's out today. hello, i am a big geek.

let's see how long i can last on this thread without mentioning monkey tennis.

oh, fuck it!

g-kit (g-kit), Friday, 11 November 2005 09:57 (twenty years ago)

Yes, but is it a computer game about monkeys playing tennis?

I've just redone the stupid thing and managed to fit it into portrait instead of landscape, but now the subtotals aren't resetting, stupid Crystal Basic.

Stress Pig (kate), Friday, 11 November 2005 09:59 (twenty years ago)

tragically, no.

g-kit (g-kit), Friday, 11 November 2005 10:01 (twenty years ago)

Dear John Lewis,

Where is my powerbook you motherfuckers?

kthxbye,
tissp!

tissp! (the impossible shortest specia), Friday, 11 November 2005 10:01 (twenty years ago)

Still no powerbook? That's apalling. Then again, my powerbook took two weeks to deliver. I was getting the fear that I wouldn't have it in time to catch a plane home. But that's Apple for you, isn't it? Think different. Time different.

Stress Pig (kate), Friday, 11 November 2005 10:02 (twenty years ago)

that's a very jagged username, Katester.

g-kit (g-kit), Friday, 11 November 2005 10:05 (twenty years ago)

It's overdue from the warehouse. Well, you know where your own fucking warehouse is! Go and fucking get it!

tissp! (the impossible shortest specia), Friday, 11 November 2005 10:05 (twenty years ago)

Descriptive screen name, though, right now. Explanation on my blog. Plus, I've got this little pink stresspig sitting on my desk. I should use it more.

Stress Pig (kate), Friday, 11 November 2005 10:10 (twenty years ago)

morning. asleep about 1 last night, awake before 6. tired.

do the monkeys from Super Monkey Ball ever play tennis? Pool i've seen, Golf, Ten Pin Bowling but never tennis. do they leave that to mario / kong / peach etc? (the monkey tennis thing was mentioned on the company F!U!N! day last friday - was one of alan partridges desparate, throwaway pitches)

am having quiet morning without headphones to let ears recover from melt banana last night. i never get to hear all these annoying office sounds and it's bugging me. still only 30 minutes to 11 so maybe after that...

coffee.

koogs (koogs), Friday, 11 November 2005 10:36 (twenty years ago)

After all that work on that report, it turns out it wasn't what they wanted, and I had done way more than they needed which I now have to take out again. :-(

I'm just having this real "Sunday Morning" feeling this morning that you've totally ruined things and made a total ass of yourself, and everything has gone horribly wrong and it's all your fault. And your own self loathing is only matched by the ill will of others. And it's all your fault. Ugh. Makes you just want to put a bullet through your brain.

Stress Pig (kate), Friday, 11 November 2005 10:45 (twenty years ago)

It's moods like this that I know I should stay off ILX because I will take everything the wrong way, but if I do stay off it, I feel so isolated, like the girl in the dunce cap in the corner, which only makes things worse.

Anybody got a cookie?

Stress Pig (kate), Friday, 11 November 2005 10:46 (twenty years ago)

...and I don't even have booze to blame.

Got a wicked headache, though. :-(

Stress Pig (kate), Friday, 11 November 2005 10:47 (twenty years ago)

I can blame booze. Ow.
We came third in a pub quiz last night. A mere third. I was disgusted so I got really drunk.
Sorry you're feeling as down as you are Kate, I know it sounds like a platitudinous truism but things will get better. Keep your chin up.

Matt (Matt), Friday, 11 November 2005 10:57 (twenty years ago)

Hey, third is pretty respectable. So long as there weren't only three teams.

I keep bursting out crying in the office, which is a bit inconvenient.

Stress Pig (kate), Friday, 11 November 2005 10:59 (twenty years ago)

i ate my cookie.

g-kit (g-kit), Friday, 11 November 2005 11:00 (twenty years ago)

There's a man refilling the coffeemaker so I can't even get a coffee.

Stress Pig (kate), Friday, 11 November 2005 11:01 (twenty years ago)

ARRGH SUSE WHY ARE YOU TORTURING ME?!?!

Seriously, opensuse is buggy as fuck. And where is my powerbook!?!!?!?!?!?

This is turning into a stressful morning.

tissp! (the impossible shortest specia), Friday, 11 November 2005 11:06 (twenty years ago)

Another slice of life from my stressful morning:

This woman has been emailing me since yesterday saying that this report didn't work. So I looked at the report, realised it was filtering by the wrong date, changed the parameters of the report and reloaded it.

Sent her this email saying I had done so.

This morning, another email saying it still doesn't work, can I call her to discuss it with her? Grrrr. Do I look like the helpdesk to you? So I send her this email telling her exactly which report she should be looking at, in case it's the wrong one. I give detailed instructions about how to locate her client on it, using the group tree. I give even more detailed instructions about how to find the group tree at the bottom of the email.

She write back saying no, no, no, it's still not working, she can't find the index can I call her now now now.

I email her back, just copying the same instructions about turning on the group tree index, and pasting them into the top of the reply.

Ten minutes later - email saying ah! Now it's working.

::beats head against the desk::

OK, yes, this from a woman who had to be told by the helpdesk yesterday to check that the network cable was plugged in, but still.

Stress Pig (kate), Friday, 11 November 2005 11:26 (twenty years ago)

Ah kate, reading you this morning and those threads last night makes me wanna come to london and give you big hug. Seeing you pressing the self-detruct button so fervidly makes me sad - you need huge amounts of sleep, methinks.

Come Back Johnny B (Johnney B), Friday, 11 November 2005 11:38 (twenty years ago)

Sleep might help. As would hugs.

I don't know what happens. I just get kind of stuck in this spiral of paranoia and anger and self loathing and outer directed loathing and paranoia and can't get out of it and wind myself up to the point where I no longer feel like I can control myself and I no longer know what I'm doing or saying.

It's scary. But I don't ever seem to be able to stop doing it. And that makes me terrified. :-(

Stress Pig (kate), Friday, 11 November 2005 11:43 (twenty years ago)

It feels like I'm losing my mind. And then people start poking you like "ha ha, watch the lunatic dance" like you're an exhibit in Bedlam but you can't stop yourself from doing it. God, I hate this feeling.

Stress Pig (kate), Friday, 11 November 2005 11:45 (twenty years ago)

aw kate. i can come into town to give you a massive hug if you like. i am gonna be oot and aboot soonish anyway...

emsk ( emsk), Friday, 11 November 2005 11:47 (twenty years ago)

I was gonna suggest we get together tonight but I don't really want to go anywhere that's going to wind me up. Like I know that Windmill would on a Friday night.

I want sleep and pizza. And a new brain.

Stress Pig (kate), Friday, 11 November 2005 11:48 (twenty years ago)

well. i am free free free. i don't want to go and see fonda if they are gonna make me feel all WEIRD about it anyway. i have to go pick up our router and a bike helmet in london bridge around 1. i might swing by the howies sale in brick lane to salivate over stuff that should be £70 being £10 but then realise i can't afford it anyway and wonder if they will give it me for cheaper because now it has dribble on it. i have to pick up our veggies from the city farm. all this can be accomplished in a couple of hours.

i can be in town pretty much whenever... i cannae go anywhere expensive though!

emsk ( emsk), Friday, 11 November 2005 11:58 (twenty years ago)

I'm going to go and get lunch now because I am starving hungry. Do you want to get a BEER at 5.30? Is that good for you? I don't know if I'm going to be allowed out of the office before then. But I might leave on the dot and sneak to the nearest pub.

I'm really craving Pizza GoGo but that's in Streatham. I don't think there's one in Holborn.

Stress Pig (kate), Friday, 11 November 2005 12:00 (twenty years ago)

heh beer at 5.30. can prob do, let me see how rest of day pans out. also to check your yahoo please.

emsk ( emsk), Friday, 11 November 2005 12:04 (twenty years ago)

Back from getting sammich. Cool. That will please AMP. Have replied there.

Stress Pig (kate), Friday, 11 November 2005 12:20 (twenty years ago)

ARRGH SUSE WHY ARE YOU TORTURING ME?!?!

SuSE is awful and annoying. I used to use it, but switched to Gentoo years ago and never looked back.

Forest Pines (ForestPines), Friday, 11 November 2005 12:28 (twenty years ago)

Also... M and A are out of the country at the moment, and not sure if they're checking their emails, so don't be surprised if it takes them a while to reply.

x-post

Stress Pig (kate), Friday, 11 November 2005 12:29 (twenty years ago)

My own "aaargh, why are they doing this to me?" post today: my manager has decided that I need to keep a log of how I spend my time, and every support phonecall I get. Wonderful. I'm going to make sure that "typing up daily log" is mentioned every day at least once.

Forest Pines (ForestPines), Friday, 11 November 2005 12:31 (twenty years ago)

OK, I'll bite. What *is* SUSE? Quick google reveals it's something to do with Linux, but what does it *do*?

x-post ha ha, I've had to do that before. stopped pretty quickly when they saw how much of it was taken up with "Pointless Admin".

Stress Pig (kate), Friday, 11 November 2005 12:33 (twenty years ago)

It's a Linux distribution - an OS based on Linux you can buy in a shop, in other words.

Forest Pines (ForestPines), Friday, 11 November 2005 12:37 (twenty years ago)

Good morning! I mean, Good afternoon!

I hate how Fridays are supposed to be a bit more relaxed than the rest of the working week but instead everyone's getting stressed.

I've got this really annoying, almost painful tickle in my throat which is making me cough too much. Compared to everyone else, it's pretty minor.

beanz (beanz), Friday, 11 November 2005 12:38 (twenty years ago)

Speaking of minor irritations, the woman at the bloody shop wrapped my carrot cake badly so the little icing carrot came off and goot smushed in the bag. :-(

take care of that throat, Beanz, this is how my lurgy started.

Stress Pig (kate), Friday, 11 November 2005 12:40 (twenty years ago)

I made carrot cake last night and bought it in today. You've never seen cake disappear so quickly in your life.

Come Back Johnny B (Johnney B), Friday, 11 November 2005 12:43 (twenty years ago)

i want b33r, too.

g-kit (g-kit), Friday, 11 November 2005 12:44 (twenty years ago)

Ohmigod, your carrot cake must have been a thing of joy.

Gah, that horrible woman from earlier is back, bugging me. How did she ever get my email address? Bloody users... Now I know that she's looking on the Oracle system, because I've already had a call from the helpdesk and I had to tell them "the Oracle system basically just doesn't work any more". But this email she's all "Oh, the reports in the ::new system:: don't work!"

Argh! I wrote her back and told her if she could manage to tell me the exact name of the report, and where she actually find it, then maybe I could help her - WHEN I GOT A CHANCE, i.e. not on my lunch break - but who knows if that's too complicated for her puny BRANE.

Stress Pig (kate), Friday, 11 November 2005 12:46 (twenty years ago)

x-post, find your way to Holborn and you can have some beer, too, G.

Stress Pig (kate), Friday, 11 November 2005 12:47 (twenty years ago)

You might find beer closer to home, too, but it won't be with us.

Stress Pig (kate), Friday, 11 November 2005 12:47 (twenty years ago)

you buying?

g-kit (g-kit), Friday, 11 November 2005 12:49 (twenty years ago)

If you can find your way from Essex to Holborn, yes, I think I can manage to buy you a beer. ;-)

Stress Pig (kate), Friday, 11 November 2005 12:49 (twenty years ago)

I've just been told off for shouting YOU ARE STUPID, YOU SHOULD NOT BE ALLOWED NEAR COMPUTERS!!! at my email inbox.

Yes, she wrote back. She still hasn't told me what system she's looking at. Except she's given me a clue in that she's looking for info from 2004, when the new system wasn't even working. Grrrrr.

Stress Pig (kate), Friday, 11 November 2005 12:56 (twenty years ago)

i cannae make it - i have a date with a lay-dee.

g-kit (g-kit), Friday, 11 November 2005 13:03 (twenty years ago)

Dates, bah, don't speak to me of dates. Unless you mean the things that grow on trees in hot countries.

Stress Pig (kate), Friday, 11 November 2005 13:06 (twenty years ago)

yes, i do. we're going to share one.

g-kit (g-kit), Friday, 11 November 2005 13:10 (twenty years ago)

Hott date:

http://www.larabar.com/ing/dates.jpg

(Don't mind me, I'm just cranky because none of the hott men on dating sites ever write me back.)

Stress Pig (kate), Friday, 11 November 2005 13:11 (twenty years ago)

add "monkey tennis" to your interests bit.
you'll have to fight them off.

g-kit (g-kit), Friday, 11 November 2005 13:14 (twenty years ago)

I've been brave this last week and asked two (count 'em!) pretty ladies on dates, and both times they were "busy". Bah, and indeed, humbug.

Come Back Johnny B (Johnney B), Friday, 11 November 2005 13:17 (twenty years ago)

One guy was actually going on about how apparently men would get more hits on dating sites if they said they preferred rugby to football and that they were "sensitive".

And then he said "btw did I mention I'm sensitive and I like Rugby?"

I suppose that was "funny" I guess. Sigh.

I will only end up deleting my entire profile in a week with my opinion of internet dating and dating in general reconfirmed. ::blows raspberry::

Stress Pig (kate), Friday, 11 November 2005 13:17 (twenty years ago)

rasberry blowing is sexeh.

g-kit (g-kit), Friday, 11 November 2005 13:19 (twenty years ago)

People in bloody shops who don't take proper care when entrusted with icing Must Be Stopped.

The Vintner's Lipogram (OleM), Friday, 11 November 2005 13:19 (twenty years ago)

BAH

i am trying to book cheap train tix to glasgow when smoosh are playing and the booking system don't work and i thought it was cos of mozilla so i switched to a whole nother computer and it STILL DIDN'T WORK so i tried buying it through a diff company and it STILL DIDN'T WORK and i can't call them because our landline is busted and calls from my mobile cost a MILLION POUNDS because i have such a cheaparse contract.

how do you people have such confidence to go and ask people on dates? you are all aliengs.

emsk ( emsk), Friday, 11 November 2005 13:19 (twenty years ago)

just back from town and swung by Game whilst i was there to try and see what game G is excited about. figure it's either Warriors or RE4.

also had a look at the back of super monkey ball and the top picture on the back of the box is of them playing tennis:
http://www.continuum2.com/gcn/monkeyball-2_6.jpg

koogs (koogs), Friday, 11 November 2005 13:27 (twenty years ago)

I haven't asked anyone on a date in ages. I can't even get up the courage to ask TGL for a curry and a look at his ha-hem press.

Stress Pig (kate), Friday, 11 November 2005 13:28 (twenty years ago)

yes but you have done it! i... don't think i have... ever...

emsk ( emsk), Friday, 11 November 2005 13:32 (twenty years ago)

I have no confidence at all - the advantage of having no ego is that you can't have your ego damaged.

Come Back Johnny B (Johnney B), Friday, 11 November 2005 13:32 (twenty years ago)

just back from town and swung by Game whilst i was there to try and see what game G is excited about. figure it's either Warriors or RE4

you underestimate me.
it's THE MOVIES.

g-kit (g-kit), Friday, 11 November 2005 13:36 (twenty years ago)

I'm back from the pub with my colleagues. Aaaaaaaahhhh, the magical restorative power of BEER. It's amazing how much better and more relaxed I feel. I wonder how long that will last.

Emsk, I have no confidence or courage. What I have is DUTCH courage.

Stress Pig (kate), Friday, 11 November 2005 14:34 (twenty years ago)

Right, given up on OpenSuse, which is a shame as I've not tried SuSe for a long time. Back to trusty old Debian. Which I am trying to install with only Knoppix and an Internet connection...

tissp! (the impossible shortest specia), Friday, 11 November 2005 14:37 (twenty years ago)

Now I am sleeeeeeepy.

Stress Pig (kate), Friday, 11 November 2005 14:46 (twenty years ago)

I still think Gentoo is better, TISSP

Forest Pines (ForestPines), Friday, 11 November 2005 16:44 (twenty years ago)

Argh. I am stupid.

One of my colleagues just came over and told me our email system has been up and down for the past two days (which means that now I don't know if the friends I wrote who haven't responded are just busy/mad at me/ignoring me/just didn't get the mail in the first place) so I wrote to TGL from my yahoo account.

And didn't realise till I hit send and went back to reread what I'd written, only to realise that it ads a .sig which has links to my blog and my band's myspace. ARGH! I don't think I've mentioned him on it... (though there is a picture of him on it. But honestly, it's there because it's a picture of me, and my friends, having fun in Kent.)

Oh well. Maybe he will like the pretty music on the MySpace. And he did send me a link to his blog. Who knows.

Stress Pig (kate), Friday, 11 November 2005 17:31 (twenty years ago)

Ha ha, I was just saying goodbye to my colleagues and said "right I'm going home to drink pizza and eat beer" causing much mirth and telling me to get some bloody sleep already. :-)

I actually like the people I work with. This is a first. Good note to the end of the day.

Stress Pig (kate), Friday, 11 November 2005 17:33 (twenty years ago)

Yo.

I have spent the day at home setting up my new PC. It feels like Christmas.

Anyway just testing the internet settings and they work fine obv.

Hope you all had a good day at work without me ! ;)

Ste (Fuzzy), Friday, 11 November 2005 20:44 (twenty years ago)

repost your fucking l33t specs on teh 1LG w4ng sh0wd0wn thread plz.

g-kit (g-kit), Saturday, 12 November 2005 11:52 (twenty years ago)

I thought I did. Let me do it again then

Ste (Fuzzy), Saturday, 12 November 2005 12:32 (twenty years ago)

Morning kiddies. How was your weekend?

I finally slept. It was glorious. I think I slept for 10 hours on Friday night and 12 hours on Saturday. I took a pill last night to help me sleep through my cough, and ended up sleeping through my alarm clock as well.

Saturday I lay in bed reading the papers and Country Life. Sunday I did some work on NaSoAlMo (new song!) and then went to see Architecture in Helsinki. Discovered that a former crush's band was supporting. (Thanks for warning me, Chuck No.4) That was bizarre. Watching him, I felt nothing. Kind of like an empty vessel that passion had once passed through. AiH was entertaining. Managed to avoid getting in a fite with my friend over pop music, which was a bit of a relief.

I still don't feel entirely well (physically or mentally). But less mental and stressed than I did.

Lady Totteringby-Gently (kate), Monday, 14 November 2005 10:17 (twenty years ago)

Morning all! Started a new watercooler thread cos this one's taking aaaages to load:

UK Watercooler Conversation 3: The Revenge of the Cookie

Come Back Johnny B (Johnney B), Monday, 14 November 2005 10:26 (twenty years ago)


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