Chicago's Greatest Hits: 1982-1989

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― Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Tuesday, 25 October 2005 19:03 (twenty years ago)

It's hard for me to say I'm sorry.

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Tuesday, 25 October 2005 19:04 (twenty years ago)

Yes, the "Trapped In The Closet" video is indeed brilliant. Particularly when it makes NO SENSE WHATSOEVER.

― Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Tuesday, 25 October 2005 19:04 (twenty years ago)

Amanda, you're the meaning in my life. You're the inspiration. You bring feeling to my life. You're the inspiration.

― Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Tuesday, 25 October 2005 19:06 (twenty years ago)

I have those videos but haven't watched them yet! Maybe tonight, if Maddie works until 1 a.m. again.

― Jordan (Jordan), Tuesday, 25 October 2005 19:06 (twenty years ago)

Thank you for figuring out the Chicago 20 issue!

― jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 25 October 2005 19:07 (twenty years ago)

Kenan, you're a hard habit to break.

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Tuesday, 25 October 2005 19:07 (twenty years ago)

his abuse of poetic license is sure sumthin'.

― kelsey (kelstarry), Tuesday, 25 October 2005 19:07 (twenty years ago)

That is easily the ugliest Chicago album cover so far.

― n/a (Nick A.), Tuesday, 25 October 2005 19:08 (twenty years ago)

It has all of their sappiest hits on it too.

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Tuesday, 25 October 2005 19:08 (twenty years ago)

Do you know what? Maybe I've mentioned this before, but I don't think I could name you a single Chicago song. Not a one. According to AMG, they're the best-selling American rock band after the Beach Boys, but somehow their entire career has slipped past me. Surely there's a song that I know but just never realized was by Chicago?

― jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 25 October 2005 19:10 (twenty years ago)

You would know "25 or 6 to 4" if you heard it.

― n/a (Nick A.), Tuesday, 25 October 2005 19:11 (twenty years ago)

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Look away and do not buy this cd, July 26, 2005
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Why do people say that this bands used to be good in the 70s to me they always sucked but this stuff with the horrible peter ceteri and the other people who sang on these songs after he left to tourture people with a solo carrer makes that stuff sound like sargent peppers. That part at the end of hard to say i'm sorry is especially lame there were just trying to convice us that they rock but they don't. You know this music is not hip and cool if clay aiken plays it at home while he is entertaining his boyfriends.

― jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 25 October 2005 19:12 (twenty years ago)

nick your halloween thread is sparkling. very funny stuff over there.

― kelsey (kelstarry), Tuesday, 25 October 2005 19:13 (twenty years ago)

You would know "25 or 6 to 4" if you heard it.

If the title is the central lyric in the song, it doesn't sound familiar AT ALL.

― jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 25 October 2005 19:13 (twenty years ago)

You know lots of Chicago songs, I guarantee you.

You know "If you leave me now / You'll take away the biggest part of me / oooooOOOOOOOOOoo oh baby please don't go..."

― Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Tuesday, 25 October 2005 19:14 (twenty years ago)

TRUST ME.

― n/a (Nick A.), Tuesday, 25 October 2005 19:14 (twenty years ago)

Yeah, you would definitely know that one. I know a humiliating number of Chicago songs. You would know "If You Leave Me Now" too.

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Tuesday, 25 October 2005 19:14 (twenty years ago)

25 or 6 to 4 doesn't really figure into the lyrics, iirc.

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Tuesday, 25 October 2005 19:14 (twenty years ago)

DOESN'T RING A BELL.

― jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 25 October 2005 19:16 (twenty years ago)

The only Chicago song I know is "If you leave me now"...

― jocelyn (Jocelyn), Tuesday, 25 October 2005 19:17 (twenty years ago)

Which song goes: Saturday! In the park! I think it was the 4th of Julyyyyyy?

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Tuesday, 25 October 2005 19:18 (twenty years ago)

That would be "Saturday in the Park," I think.

― n/a (Nick A.), Tuesday, 25 October 2005 19:20 (twenty years ago)

Oh. Oops. I think this whole time I thought that song was 25 or 6 to 4. That's Chicago, though, right?

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Tuesday, 25 October 2005 19:21 (twenty years ago)

"Does Anybody Really Know What Time It Is?"

No bells at all? These are really famous songs, and classic rock radio staples.

― Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Tuesday, 25 October 2005 19:21 (twenty years ago)

http://www.topiclink.com/gameshows/images/alextrebek.jpg

― jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 25 October 2005 19:22 (twenty years ago)

25 or 6 to 4 is the one with the descending horn part that goes:
DAH DAH DAH DAH!
DAH DAH DAH DAH!
DAH DAH DAH DAH!
DAH DAH DAH DAH, DAH DAH DAH DAH!

― n/a (Nick A.), Tuesday, 25 October 2005 19:22 (twenty years ago)

I've never really listened to classic-rock radio.

― jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 25 October 2005 19:22 (twenty years ago)

This is the stupidest thread ever.

― n/a (Nick A.), Tuesday, 25 October 2005 19:23 (twenty years ago)

And I say that with great affection.

― n/a (Nick A.), Tuesday, 25 October 2005 19:23 (twenty years ago)

As I was walkin down the street one day
A man came up to me and bla bla bla blablablablalbaaaaaaaaa
Does anybody really know what time it is? (ba ba baaaaaa)
Does anybody really care? (ba ba baaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa)

That was from memory, thank you. Thank you very much. I'll be at this Potbelly all week from 11-1. Thank you.

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Tuesday, 25 October 2005 19:24 (twenty years ago)

I'm not entirely sure why I posted that Trebek photo.

― jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 25 October 2005 19:24 (twenty years ago)

Can we get this thread renamed to "This is the thread where we try to get jaymc to remember various Chicago songs, for probably the third or fourth time."?

― n/a (Nick A.), Tuesday, 25 October 2005 19:25 (twenty years ago)

jaymc, you're not missing anything except for Crazy Train played every hour and people who call in requesting "Teenage Wasteland."
The other day a girl called in asking for Wild Thing by Tone Loc and they refused to play it because it wasn't on the current charts.

― jocelyn (Jocelyn), Tuesday, 25 October 2005 19:26 (twenty years ago)

Every time we start a new thread we have to go through this with John... the next time you are at our apartment, I'm breaking out the CHICAGO BOX SET on VINYL that I somehow inherited from my parents and you are going to SIT and LISTEN until these songs not only ring bells, but are as familiar to you as the sound of your own breathing.

― pullapartgirl (pullapartgirl), Tuesday, 25 October 2005 19:26 (twenty years ago)

Is it the third or fourth time? Gah. I don't even remember having this conversation before!

― jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 25 October 2005 19:26 (twenty years ago)

It's okay, I don't know any Chicago songs either. I've correctly guessed them on the radio though, from the horns and the sound.

― Jordan (Jordan), Tuesday, 25 October 2005 19:27 (twenty years ago)

I think I confused Chicago and Blood, Sweat and Tears for a while.

― jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 25 October 2005 19:27 (twenty years ago)

I'd make you a CD, John, but I can't really stand this shit.

― Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Tuesday, 25 October 2005 19:27 (twenty years ago)

Just wait til Saturday, when we tie you down and make you listen to us sing ALL OF CHICAGO'S GREATEST HITS. Followed by America's greatest hits, Boston's greatest hits, and a marathon singalong of "Dust in the Wind."

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Tuesday, 25 October 2005 19:28 (twenty years ago)

That's like me & Steely Dan!

xpost with the horns & The Knowing.

― kelsey (kelstarry), Tuesday, 25 October 2005 19:28 (twenty years ago)

All we are is dust in the wiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiind
OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH.

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Tuesday, 25 October 2005 19:28 (twenty years ago)

xpost to Kelsey from the other thread re: stray hairs: Yes, three kind of under my chin and I hate them.

Were you Loopsters aware of this website? It's a very handy reference: http://lunchintheloop.com/

Also, I generally don't eat at Potbelly's because all the yelling really stresses me out. I just want a sandwich! Eating lunch shouldn't make me feel like I'm in trouble for something!

― pullapartgirl (pullapartgirl), Tuesday, 25 October 2005 19:28 (twenty years ago)

BS&T >>> Chicago

Boston's greatest hits is just that one album, isn't it? Such an awesome album.

I'd rather have teeth pulled than listen to America.

― Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Tuesday, 25 October 2005 19:28 (twenty years ago)

(xpost) Amen!

― jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 25 October 2005 19:29 (twenty years ago)

You need to segue Dust in the Wind into Carry on My Wayward Son.

― jocelyn (Jocelyn), Tuesday, 25 October 2005 19:31 (twenty years ago)

I could probably sing you, from beginning to end, with very little prompting, the following classic rock bands' greatest hits collections:

Chicago
Blood Sweat and Tears
Boston
Steely Dan
America

I could only do a representative sample of Kansas.

I would make all you people classic rock mixes, just so we can all be on the same page, if I ever thought you'd listen to them.

― pullapartgirl (pullapartgirl), Tuesday, 25 October 2005 19:31 (twenty years ago)

Paunchy, Will I see you SAturday???

― Kittens Licking Cakes (coco), Tuesday, 25 October 2005 19:31 (twenty years ago)

Once I rose above the noise and confusion
Just to get a glimpse beyond this illusion
I was soaring ever higher
But I flew too high

Though my eyes could see I still was a blind man
Though my mind could think I still was a mad man
I hear the voices when I'm dreaming
I can hear them SAYYYYYYY...

― Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Tuesday, 25 October 2005 19:32 (twenty years ago)

Kenan and John, "Ventura Highway" is A GREAT SONG.

Can I be an honorary Chicagoan like Mandee? Mississippi sucks.

― I do feel guilty for getting any perverse amusement out of it (Rock Hardy), Tuesday, 25 October 2005 19:32 (twenty years ago)

Carry on My Wayward Son is one of my very favorite arena rock power chord songs EVER. Possibly tied for first with Don't Fear the Reaper.

― pullapartgirl (pullapartgirl), Tuesday, 25 October 2005 19:32 (twenty years ago)

Yes, sarah, you will. Wouldn't miss it for the world. I'll be dressed as the guy with an enormous penis but I can't show you because it's not that kind of party.

― Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Tuesday, 25 October 2005 19:33 (twenty years ago)

I don't think I know any Steely Dan songs, and I know most of you (and a lot of hipsters) love them.

― n/a (Nick A.), Tuesday, 25 October 2005 19:33 (twenty years ago)

Steely Dan fucking rules, though.

Can I be an honorary Chicagoan like Mandee? Mississippi sucks.

Yes, yes, you can. William is good people.

― jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 25 October 2005 19:33 (twenty years ago)

Oh Jenny, we're on the same page.

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Tuesday, 25 October 2005 19:33 (twenty years ago)

Nick: "Reelin' in the Years"? "Deacon Blues"?

― jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 25 October 2005 19:34 (twenty years ago)

Thanks! I'm ashamed to say I've never actually been to Chicago yet.

― I do feel guilty for getting any perverse amusement out of it (Rock Hardy), Tuesday, 25 October 2005 19:34 (twenty years ago)

I know nothing about Steely Dan except this question:
Aja:
Is it Azh-uh or Ai-yah? Or neither?

― jocelyn (Jocelyn), Tuesday, 25 October 2005 19:35 (twenty years ago)

paunchy, your last comment inspired my most recent "costume" idea.

― kelsey (kelstarry), Tuesday, 25 October 2005 19:36 (twenty years ago)

Possibly tied for first with Don't Fear the Reaper.

I don't know that anything ties with Don't Fear the Reaper, but point taken.

It's "Asia."

― Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Tuesday, 25 October 2005 19:36 (twenty years ago)

Most people I know say it like Asia. Did I ever tell you guys about time I met Steve Gadd?

xpost

― Jordan (Jordan), Tuesday, 25 October 2005 19:37 (twenty years ago)

Speaking of Asia, I have a soft spot for Asia, the band.

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Tuesday, 25 October 2005 19:37 (twenty years ago)

Here is a list of Top 50 Classic Rock Bands.

Why is the B-52s on this list?

Don't worry about that soft spot, Amanda. It was just the heat of the money.

― pullapartgirl (pullapartgirl), Tuesday, 25 October 2005 19:39 (twenty years ago)

MOMENT.

Damn, muscle memory ruined my own joke.

― pullapartgirl (pullapartgirl), Tuesday, 25 October 2005 19:39 (twenty years ago)

I'm so embarassed, I'm going to get two tickets to paradise, pack my bags, and leave tonight.

― pullapartgirl (pullapartgirl), Tuesday, 25 October 2005 19:40 (twenty years ago)

Hahahahha

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Tuesday, 25 October 2005 19:40 (twenty years ago)

See, that's obviously a lyrical allusion to something, but fuck if I know what it is.

― jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 25 October 2005 19:40 (twenty years ago)

Eddie Money!

― I do feel guilty for getting any perverse amusement out of it (Rock Hardy), Tuesday, 25 October 2005 19:41 (twenty years ago)

Two tickets to paradise!

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Tuesday, 25 October 2005 19:42 (twenty years ago)

Waited so looooooooong

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Tuesday, 25 October 2005 19:42 (twenty years ago)

oh i am SO tortured now with chicago songs in my head. at first it's funny, then it's just a desperate feeling of oh holy shit, must purge this from my poor poor brane....

hi william!

― Juulia (julesbdules), Tuesday, 25 October 2005 19:42 (twenty years ago)

I LOVE driving long distances and listening to classic rock radio.

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Tuesday, 25 October 2005 19:43 (twenty years ago)

Hi Julia! Sorry the literati tournament went down in flames.

― I do feel guilty for getting any perverse amusement out of it (Rock Hardy), Tuesday, 25 October 2005 19:43 (twenty years ago)

i was kinda glad it did because that secured my place in first! and deangulberry was probably going to beat me.

we should play sometime.

― Juulia (julesbdules), Tuesday, 25 October 2005 19:45 (twenty years ago)

Fuck. Just when I was feeling happy about having lost weight over the summer, I'm putting the pounds back on. These pants are TOO TIGHT.

― jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 25 October 2005 19:49 (twenty years ago)

Sounds good -- I'm on a break for a few weeks before my work schedule gets crazy again, so I'm free to play pretty much whenever.

Dean's a good lit player, but I got the impression you are at least as good as he is. Edward O was the big gun to look out for in that tournament.

― I do feel guilty for getting any perverse amusement out of it (Rock Hardy), Tuesday, 25 October 2005 19:50 (twenty years ago)

I feel like buying a Steely Dan album after work.

― Jordan (Jordan), Tuesday, 25 October 2005 19:50 (twenty years ago)

How Kansas saved my life:

I moved from Delaware to ATL with my best friend. A friend from ATL came up to help us do the drive. We had one truck and one car, which meant that one of us was going to get screwed with extra driving duties and I won. Or really, lost. For some reason, I couldn't convince either traveling companion to stop so I could get some rest. Despite an insane amount of coffee consumption, I was fighting to keep my eyes open, wondering in my sleep-deprivation psychosis if it would be better to pull over and sleep in defiance of my friends or to keep driving and likely die in a car accident when suddenly CARRY ON MY WAYWARD SON came on the radio. I turned it up LOUD and was miraculously awake and energized and able to complete the trip without dying in a fiery wreck or inconveniencing my friends.

Thank you, Kansas!

― pullapartgirl (pullapartgirl), Tuesday, 25 October 2005 19:53 (twenty years ago)

I feel like buying Joni's Hissing of Summer Lawns, as that seems to be the Noise Board consensus as her best.

― jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 25 October 2005 19:54 (twenty years ago)

(NB: I already have Blue, Court and Spark, and Hejira.)

― jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 25 October 2005 19:54 (twenty years ago)

NO FREEDOM ROCK?

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Tuesday, 25 October 2005 19:55 (twenty years ago)

I enjoy Ladies of the Canyon.

wrt weight loss . . . i just saw a photo of myself from this summer & i think i've toned my tummy a little! it's hard to tell though & it's not something i'm interested in posting here for open commentary.

― kelsey (kelstarry), Tuesday, 25 October 2005 19:56 (twenty years ago)

Steely Dan was named after a sex toy in Naked Lunch, if I remember right.

I would think that any American would recognize either a) Chicago's horn section (pre-1980) and/or b) Peter Cetera's voice (post-1980).

― Eazy (Eazy), Tuesday, 25 October 2005 19:57 (twenty years ago)

Steely Dan was named after a sex toy in Naked Lunch, if I remember right.

This is correct.

― jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 25 October 2005 19:58 (twenty years ago)

I love this job. The guy next to me is designing for a site called "America's Next Top Bottom." It's a butt contest. He has images of naked asses all over his screen.

― Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Tuesday, 25 October 2005 19:59 (twenty years ago)

I know my mom owned at least one Steely Dan album (Aja, I remember the cover), but I don't know that I ever listened to it. I know nothing of their music.

― n/a (Nick A.), Tuesday, 25 October 2005 20:00 (twenty years ago)

Burroughs also inspired the band names the Soft Machine and the Soft Boys, and he coined the term "heavy metal."

― jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 25 October 2005 20:01 (twenty years ago)

We need to take Jaymc and Nick to a sports bar, load up the jukebox, and bring on the Chicago and Steely Dan.

― Eazy (Eazy), Tuesday, 25 October 2005 20:02 (twenty years ago)

"Deacon Blue" is the most famous track on Aja.

― jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 25 October 2005 20:02 (twenty years ago)

"They call Alabama the Crimson Tide, call me Deacon Blues."

― jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 25 October 2005 20:04 (twenty years ago)

Aja also has BLACK COW and PEG and WHEN JOSIE COMES HOME.

― Eazy (Eazy), Tuesday, 25 October 2005 20:04 (twenty years ago)

America's Next Top Bottom? Is that like International Mr. Leather, but more specialized?

My stepfather was a HUGE Steely Dan fan. Like HUGE. And yes, he was also a huge fan of WEED.

xpost to Eazy: That is a brilliant idea, especially if you and Amanda are also there so I don't feel like too much of a chump singing along to all the songs.

― pullapartgirl (pullapartgirl), Tuesday, 25 October 2005 20:04 (twenty years ago)

Peg might be my favorite Steely Dan song, although Kid Charlemagne is also very good.

Clean this mess up or else we'll all end up in jail. Those test tubes and that scale... just get them all out of here!

I love that.

― pullapartgirl (pullapartgirl), Tuesday, 25 October 2005 20:05 (twenty years ago)

Oh yeah, I always forgot that "Peg" is on Aja, too.

― jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 25 October 2005 20:06 (twenty years ago)

Jenny: is there gas in the car? YES THERE'S GAS IN THE CAR.

― jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 25 October 2005 20:07 (twenty years ago)

John, I think the people down the hall know who we are.

No wonder people on drugs love Steely Dan. That and the whole ode to tequilla and cocaine outro of Hey 19.

― pullapartgirl (pullapartgirl), Tuesday, 25 October 2005 20:08 (twenty years ago)

I like the idea of 5 to 10 bucks in the jukebox, alternating Chicago and Steely Dan with each song. We could do this somewhere hipper like the Blue Moon, but it would drive everyone nuts after half an hour.

― Eazy (Eazy), Tuesday, 25 October 2005 20:09 (twenty years ago)

I know none of these songs. I feel like such a jaymc.

― n/a (Nick A.), Tuesday, 25 October 2005 20:10 (twenty years ago)

Speaking of which, there's a great line on the newest Steely Dan album, Everything Must Go: "I move to dissolve the corporation / in a pool of margaritas."

― jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 25 October 2005 20:10 (twenty years ago)

Jaymc, I never "got" Hissing of Summer Lawns, except for one or two songs. Maybe it's too complex harmonically for me, but it was always kind of a wash even though I made an effort to listen to it. This was very disappointing to Ev@n M0rg@n, who incidentally is the ultimate Steely Dan fan.

― Jordan (Jordan), Tuesday, 25 October 2005 20:10 (twenty years ago)

That makes me happy (about Evan).

― jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 25 October 2005 20:12 (twenty years ago)

Do you like Everything Must Go? That's the one I was thinking of buying today.

I think Joni and the Dan have a whole lot in common, but I like SD and merely respect JM (jazz-pop vs. jazz-folk I guess).

― Jordan (Jordan), Tuesday, 25 October 2005 20:12 (twenty years ago)

Jordan, how tall are you anyway? I don't remember you being that short.

I am considering skipping my night class. Will this ruin my entire academic career?

― pullapartgirl (pullapartgirl), Tuesday, 25 October 2005 20:14 (twenty years ago)

My prog-rock-certified brother put together a 12-piece SD tribute band, hired the musicians, and did all the arrangements. We're quite different in our styles.

x-post - everyone will skip tonight for the game.

― Eazy (Eazy), Tuesday, 25 October 2005 20:14 (twenty years ago)

evan also liked joni! i remember him talking about chalkmarks in a rainstorm . . .

― kelsey (kelstarry), Tuesday, 25 October 2005 20:15 (twenty years ago)

Wow. That's Ev4n's dream, to sing and play drums in an SD tribute band.

I'm not THAT short (maybe 5'9"?), Jenny, but I do have many tall, tall friends.

― Jordan (Jordan), Tuesday, 25 October 2005 20:16 (twenty years ago)

I do like Everything Must Go but if you haven't heard much of their stuff, I'd encourage you to get one of their 1970s albums first, like Katy Lied or Pretzel Logic.

― jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 25 October 2005 20:17 (twenty years ago)

I will take any Steely Dan that anyone will copy for me.

― n/a (Nick A.), Tuesday, 25 October 2005 20:17 (twenty years ago)

Haha, you knew him from college too, Kelsey? Crazy. Yeah, he loooves Joni.

Jaymc, all I have is Aja.

― Jordan (Jordan), Tuesday, 25 October 2005 20:18 (twenty years ago)

I'll put something together for you, Nick... if my burner starts working again.

― jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 25 October 2005 20:18 (twenty years ago)

I think I will skip and finish my evidence outline and read for my Wednesday classes. I feel better already. Also, I've never skipped this class before so I'm due.

Thanks, Eazy!

― pullapartgirl (pullapartgirl), Tuesday, 25 October 2005 20:20 (twenty years ago)

yes. i remember him in bits & pieces. my good friend had a GIANT crush on him. he was cute, as i recall.

― kelsey (kelstarry), Tuesday, 25 October 2005 20:21 (twenty years ago)

You're not talking about me, I take it.

― jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 25 October 2005 20:22 (twenty years ago)

I'm going to make dinner. If anyone wants potato soup and cornbread, come on down.

― I do feel guilty for getting any perverse amusement out of it (Rock Hardy), Tuesday, 25 October 2005 20:22 (twenty years ago)

It's a bit of a drive, though.

― I do feel guilty for getting any perverse amusement out of it (Rock Hardy), Tuesday, 25 October 2005 20:22 (twenty years ago)

no, not you. paula. did you have a crush on him? i always found him kind of oddly intimidating yet goofy.

― kelsey (kelstarry), Tuesday, 25 October 2005 20:23 (twenty years ago)

xpost
That sounds delicious!

It appears to me, after much research on many Halloween costume websites, that the demand for Austin Powers Halloween costumes was lower than the supply - much, much lower.

― Kittens Licking Cakes (coco), Tuesday, 25 October 2005 20:24 (twenty years ago)

Yeah, I had a small crush on him: he had this boyish, raffish Robert Downey, Jr. quality.

― jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 25 October 2005 20:26 (twenty years ago)

that's a pretty dead-on description.

― kelsey (kelstarry), Tuesday, 25 October 2005 20:26 (twenty years ago)

Here's the band my bro started (though he's not with it now):
http://www.steelingdan.com/

― Eazy (Eazy), Tuesday, 25 October 2005 20:33 (twenty years ago)

the name is classic.

― kelsey (kelstarry), Tuesday, 25 October 2005 20:41 (twenty years ago)

Haha, both of your descriptions of E are OTM.

― Jordan (Jordan), Tuesday, 25 October 2005 20:58 (twenty years ago)

is this the guy in jordan's band with the little hat?

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Tuesday, 25 October 2005 21:01 (twenty years ago)

there is a HUGE rainbow outside my office! you can see the entire arch!!

― kelsey (kelstarry), Tuesday, 25 October 2005 21:01 (twenty years ago)

God is gay, after all.

― jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 25 October 2005 21:03 (twenty years ago)

i just saw this thing in the marketing department called "thunder sticks" which, apparently, are these balloons that you inflate and whack together to make noise.

why? i have no idea. there were these little stickers next to them that said "thunderous! bring these to brainstorming tomorrow!!"

that makes me sort of sad.

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Tuesday, 25 October 2005 21:23 (twenty years ago)

can you imagine a roomful of adults whacking these giant green wiener balloons together in order to make enough noise to motivate themselves?

my heart is sinking.

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Tuesday, 25 October 2005 21:24 (twenty years ago)

You must not watch a lot of pro basketball...

― pullapartgirl (pullapartgirl), Tuesday, 25 October 2005 22:08 (twenty years ago)

Did anyone stay up to watch that whole game last night? Yeah, me neither. There are only a couple of things that will keep me up until two am. You guess what they are.

But we won. That's what matters.

― Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Wednesday, 26 October 2005 12:24 (twenty years ago)

Dude, me and Kelsey (and other folks) stayed at the bar downtown until the final out!

― jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 26 October 2005 12:30 (twenty years ago)

Wow. I stayed up til 11:30 or so and then fell asleep. I was ok with the idea of them losing because it would make the series more interesting, but I'm obvs glad they won! And so triumphantly!

No, I don't watch a lot of basketball. Not a lot of sports, in general. What's up with those noise wieners?

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Wednesday, 26 October 2005 12:40 (twenty years ago)

I am proud of your dedication. Nick came to bed after midnight, but didn't see the end of the game. I just found out the results this morning at work... where my boss brought DONUTS! It's a good day.

― Kittens Licking Cakes (coco), Wednesday, 26 October 2005 12:41 (twenty years ago)

If I recall, the thunderstix were popularized during the angels world series run a few years ago. They seemed louder then, maybe the manufactour quieted them down.

I watched the whole game, then couldn't fall asleep for an hour afterwards.

― Jeff-PTTL (Jeff), Wednesday, 26 October 2005 12:47 (twenty years ago)

Oh, and Kelsey, I bet I saw that same rainbow yesterday. I was waiting for Nick outside his work and saw a huge rainbow arch. It made me really happy.

― Kittens Licking Cakes (coco), Wednesday, 26 October 2005 12:52 (twenty years ago)

Yeah, I stayed up until midnight, and went to bed assuming the Astros would win, because it seemed like they were playing a lot better than the White Sox. But I was happy to be proved wrong!

― n/a (Nick A.), Wednesday, 26 October 2005 12:53 (twenty years ago)

Eric Z., in case you don't see it, I sent you a MySpace message.

― n/a (Nick A.), Wednesday, 26 October 2005 12:54 (twenty years ago)

Yep, just got it and wrotecha back. And now I gotta go through some tables with very tiny text and change ratings on companies from 'R' to 'RR'. I think I can listen to music while doing this, at least.

― Eazy (Eazy), Wednesday, 26 October 2005 13:04 (twenty years ago)

Hey Jaymc, what fact-checking resources do you use besides, uh, Google? I have a HISTORICAL POP MUSIC QUESTION that I need settled to finish some liner notes.

― Jordan (Jordan), Wednesday, 26 October 2005 13:08 (twenty years ago)

I went to bed at 11:30 because I had to get up stupid early this morning and because I was getting way to anxiety-ridden about the stupid game. Jeff stayed up for the whole thing, but he's a hard core sportz dude like that.

Kelsey, I'm sorry I never emailed you back about the bar! I knew we couldn't go but I didn't want the first reply to the invitation to be negative so I was waiting for someone else to reply and then... I didn't reply at all.

I'm tired!

PS GO SOX

Jordan, what is the question? Like a trivia contest! You can buy the winner a pumpkin latte!

― pullapartgirl (pullapartgirl), Wednesday, 26 October 2005 13:11 (twenty years ago)

are people actually excited in Chicago for the White Sox? Around here all the sports radio guys say..."no one cares..its not the cubs."

― bingo (Chris V), Wednesday, 26 October 2005 13:21 (twenty years ago)

Morning folks.

I have a couple different mulled wine recipes if anyone wants them.

― Df'nM (OutDatWay), Wednesday, 26 October 2005 13:24 (twenty years ago)

are people actually excited in Chicago for the White Sox? Around here all the sports radio guys say..."no one cares..its not the cubs."

no way -- everyone i know is all into it. i'm not really a fan of either team, but i'm into it. we care. where are the sports radio people slandering the common chicagoan that way?

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Wednesday, 26 October 2005 13:28 (twenty years ago)

good morning chicago . . . yowzers. i am tiiiiirrred. like john said, we stayed til the end. then john ran ERRANDS & i went home & passed out. about 4-5 hours later, i woke up REEKING of smoke with a slight hangover & now here I am at work, not reeking but with a slight headache.

jenny: totally don't worry about it! we cool.

― kelsey (kelstarry), Wednesday, 26 October 2005 13:30 (twenty years ago)

Well, you know that tune Iko Iko? It was originally written and recorded by a New Orleans r&b singer named James "Sugarboy" Crawford in the early 50s, and he never got any royalties for it. His grandson (an amazing gospel/r&b singer himself) asked us to use the original song title if we ever recorded it.

Now, his records are pretty rare, but AMG says it was originally recorded under the name "Jock-O-Mo". Louisiana Music Factory has one of the records (not listed in AMG), which has it as "Jocamo". I just want to know which spelling he actually used, if there's a clear answer.

― Jordan (Jordan), Wednesday, 26 October 2005 13:34 (twenty years ago)

i'm bloated on beer & pms. My pants are snug.

― kelsey (kelstarry), Wednesday, 26 October 2005 13:36 (twenty years ago)

I think the people who don't care about the White Sox are either:
1. Not sports people in general
2. Asshole bitter hyper-aggressive, hyper-loyal Cubs fans.

― n/a (Nick A.), Wednesday, 26 October 2005 13:36 (twenty years ago)

Nick OTM. When I was away last weekend, people said to me "do you actually care?" and I had to admit yes, even though I've never ever been into baseball before.

Supposedly the ratings are shitty because it's not New York or Boston, though.

― Df'nM (OutDatWay), Wednesday, 26 October 2005 13:39 (twenty years ago)

What kind of errands do you run after 2 am? All I can think of involves pizza, hookers, or both.

― Jordan (Jordan), Wednesday, 26 October 2005 13:42 (twenty years ago)

Can we talk for a minute about the musical atrocities committed last night?

T/S: Michael McDonald vs. Aaron Neville

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Wednesday, 26 October 2005 13:43 (twenty years ago)

I mean, I work with six middle-aged women, who don't fit in the stereotypical "sports fan" demographic, and they're all either closely following or actively watching the Series.

― n/a (Nick A.), Wednesday, 26 October 2005 13:45 (twenty years ago)

so that was aaron neville!

― kelsey (kelstarry), Wednesday, 26 October 2005 13:46 (twenty years ago)

During the game?

― Jordan (Jordan), Wednesday, 26 October 2005 13:49 (twenty years ago)

I didn't see any of the musical performances last night, but I'm 1000% sure that I can say Aaron Neville > Michael McDonald.

― n/a (Nick A.), Wednesday, 26 October 2005 13:51 (twenty years ago)

Neville was singing like a little girl, really quiet-like, and Michael McDonald, as usual sang like a ghost. Did they not see the humor in Neville Brothers VS Doobie Brothers?

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Wednesday, 26 October 2005 13:52 (twenty years ago)

the reason our sports radio folks are not saying much about the white sox is because you swept the Red Sox...so immediately we HATE you.

― bingo (Chris V), Wednesday, 26 October 2005 13:53 (twenty years ago)

I heard but did not see Aaron Neville. Is Michael McDonald from... the Doobie Brothers?

xpost well that answered my question

― Df'nM (OutDatWay), Wednesday, 26 October 2005 13:54 (twenty years ago)

What happened to Neville's mole?

― jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 26 October 2005 13:54 (twenty years ago)

there was a lot of arguing about neville & if he got his mole removed.

in non sports news, who got booted on ANTM last night?!

― kelsey (kelstarry), Wednesday, 26 October 2005 13:54 (twenty years ago)

Awkward soulless soul singing by wax figures: C or D?

CORYN

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Wednesday, 26 October 2005 13:55 (twenty years ago)

Jordan -- I'm not sure if I would be able to research that any better than you. I mostly just use Google myself, plus a few databases we subscribe to, but they're mostly for news and politics.

― jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 26 October 2005 13:55 (twenty years ago)

yay! she's annoying!

― kelsey (kelstarry), Wednesday, 26 October 2005 13:57 (twenty years ago)

Okay, thanks jaymc, I'll probably just pick the one that looks better.

The Nevilles are way cool, even if I don't actually have any of their records. Were any of Michael McDonald's brothers ("brothers"?) in the Meters? Right.

― Jordan (Jordan), Wednesday, 26 October 2005 13:58 (twenty years ago)

yeah, she had one too many catfights and also lisa was drunk as a skunk and then ty-ty confronted her about it and she said that she "likes the way wine makes her feel."

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Wednesday, 26 October 2005 13:58 (twenty years ago)

I do not like the way that Michael McDonald makes me feel.

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Wednesday, 26 October 2005 13:58 (twenty years ago)

I will be glad for this month to be over.

A short summary:

1. Car stolen, along with several expensive musical instruments
2. Given a month to vacate apartment
3. Last night, getting out of the cab, I dropped my iPod and broke it

There's also a somewhat embarrassing medical problem, but I'm not going into that.

― jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 26 October 2005 13:59 (twenty years ago)

Haha. Speaking of which, Maddie and I are DEFINITELY making mulled wine tonight.

xpost

― Jordan (Jordan), Wednesday, 26 October 2005 13:59 (twenty years ago)

Is the hot lesbian still on ANTM? Is she still hot?
xpost
I dropped my iPod at the gym the other night but fortunately it seems to be ok. Sorry jaymc.

― n/a (Nick A.), Wednesday, 26 October 2005 14:00 (twenty years ago)

Hot Kim - still hot, still modeling.

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Wednesday, 26 October 2005 14:02 (twenty years ago)

I've dropped mine more times than I should have been able to get away with and it still works somehow. That being said, this month has sucked, and I will also be glad to see it gone. Sorry dude.

― Df'nM (OutDatWay), Wednesday, 26 October 2005 14:03 (twenty years ago)

Yeah, I've dropped my iPod before -- but usually in my apartment or at work. This was on the sidewalk. When the iPod came to, it had an exclamation-point folder and a URL for the iPod support site.

― jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 26 October 2005 14:04 (twenty years ago)

That's a pretty shitty month. At least it's almost over.

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Wednesday, 26 October 2005 14:04 (twenty years ago)

man john! that sucks!!! if you decide to get a new ipod, maybe get the nano or the shuffle since i think their data storage system can better withstand stuff like that. as in, they aren't hard drives. do i know what i'm talking about? probably not.

― kelsey (kelstarry), Wednesday, 26 October 2005 14:04 (twenty years ago)

SILVER LINING:
1. Car was returned, despite the odds, and maybe they'll track down instruments.
2. You got a new apartment, new surroundings might make things more interesting for you, and you get 2 months free rent.
3. Um, possessions are meaningless? You now have an excuse to get one of the new FANCY-SCHMANCY iPods?

― n/a (Nick A.), Wednesday, 26 October 2005 14:05 (twenty years ago)

Also: you were not clad in a trench coat and sweatshirt as you warbled the national anthem before game 3 of the world series.

That's something we can all be thankful for.

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Wednesday, 26 October 2005 14:06 (twenty years ago)

Not that you didn't sing, but that NONE of us are Michael McDonald.

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Wednesday, 26 October 2005 14:06 (twenty years ago)

Jordan-I've found 1 reference to Iko Iko in PCI Full-text, but it's in Sing Out! so I think it's just lyrics and chords. I'll keep looking...

― jocelyn (Jocelyn), Wednesday, 26 October 2005 14:06 (twenty years ago)

Thanks, Nick! I wasn't trying to be a downer or anything -- it's actually kind of funny to me, like in a "just when I thought the worst could happen" kind of way.

You now have an excuse to get one of the new FANCY-SCHMANCY iPods?

Yes, this is what I am planning on doing. I don't give a shit about video, but the thinness and the 60GB are sure appealing.

― jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 26 October 2005 14:09 (twenty years ago)

There's also a somewhat embarrassing medical problem, but I'm not going into that.

Spontaneous ejaculation?

― Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Wednesday, 26 October 2005 14:09 (twenty years ago)

(The money that I'm saving from not having to pay rent for two months is gonna go pretty quickly, looks like.)

― jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 26 October 2005 14:10 (twenty years ago)

Kenan: no.

― jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 26 October 2005 14:10 (twenty years ago)

Too bad.

― Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Wednesday, 26 October 2005 14:12 (twenty years ago)

Don't tell me it's eCrabs from that Internet date, J...

― Eazy (Eazy), Wednesday, 26 October 2005 14:12 (twenty years ago)

Haha.

Too bad.

I'm sure you can find someone else who shares your problem, K.

― jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 26 October 2005 14:14 (twenty years ago)

Jordan-I've found 1 reference to Iko Iko in PCI Full-text

I don't know what that is, so thanks!

40 Year Old Virgin was my first direct exposure to Michael McDonald, so as far as I know all of his stuff is atrocious beard-blues.

― Jordan (Jordan), Wednesday, 26 October 2005 14:26 (twenty years ago)

haha! ecrabs!! Funny stuff, Z!

― kelsey (kelstarry), Wednesday, 26 October 2005 14:26 (twenty years ago)

THIS JUST IN!
Be careful how you handle that mouse!
Internet Dating and STD's - a Dangerous new Phenomena

― Kittens Licking Cakes (coco), Wednesday, 26 October 2005 14:36 (twenty years ago)

Jordan -- You know the DOOBIE BROTHERS! You know Ya Mo B There! You know "I keep forgettin' we're not in love anymoooore/I keep forgettin' things'll never be the same again"

On my ooooooooooooown (this wasn't how it was suppposed to be) -- duet with Patti LaBelle?

Am I the only one plagued with an excess of Michael McDonald in my memory? I can't get rid of it, no matter how hard I try. I can't forget!

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Wednesday, 26 October 2005 14:36 (twenty years ago)

just think about aaron's stonewashed shirt.

― kelsey (kelstarry), Wednesday, 26 October 2005 14:38 (twenty years ago)

I don't know any Michael McDonald/Doobie Bros. either, to my knowledge. I just heard of "Ya Mo B There" for the first time a month or two ago (I think there was an ILM thread on it) -- but still haven't heard the song.

― this is what you expect of me, though (jaymc), Wednesday, 26 October 2005 14:39 (twenty years ago)

Jordan -- You know the DOOBIE BROTHERS!

This is going to be like Jaymc/Chicago all over again, isn't it. Add it to the list for the "oh come on, you know THAT song" classic rock FAP.

― Jordan (Jordan), Wednesday, 26 October 2005 14:43 (twenty years ago)

I know. I'm sorry. Can you blame me for being surprised? I'm not that much older than you guys. I thought this was like knowing Elvis songs.

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Wednesday, 26 October 2005 14:48 (twenty years ago)

Not that the Doobie Brothers and Elvis hold similar positions, but in the "stuff that leaked into my head without my consent" category.

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Wednesday, 26 October 2005 14:51 (twenty years ago)

So, um, who's got their costume ready for Saturday? Huh? Eh? Not me.

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Wednesday, 26 October 2005 14:58 (twenty years ago)

I was once forcibly sat down and made to listen to Led Zeppelin, in order to prove that I knew more than one or two Led Zeppelin songs. It was true: I knew like five -- but that was still not as many as I was told that I would know.

Really, though: if I never really listened to classic-rock or adult-contemporary radio growing up, where would I be hearing Chicago/Traffic/Doobie Brothers/Kansas/Neil Diamond, etc.?

― jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 26 October 2005 14:59 (twenty years ago)

Not me, but that's one of the many many things I'm doing after work today. I WILL have some sort of costume. I have backup plans at home too.

Jaymc, what about at Pizza Hutt on the jukebox?

― Kittens Licking Cakes (coco), Wednesday, 26 October 2005 15:01 (twenty years ago)

Michael MacDonald "Shine Sweet Freedom" (from the soundtrack to the Gregory Hines/Billy Crystal Stakeout-cum-Lethal-Weapon comedy 'Running Scared').

He's the thinking man's Kenny Loggins. Or the sedated man's...

John, you've shopped at Osco, right? Or at Jewel? Or at Linens 'n' Things? You've heard the Doobie Brothers! You've heard Chicago!

― Eazy (Eazy), Wednesday, 26 October 2005 15:01 (twenty years ago)

At poker parties in the basements of dudes who work with your friend at the pizza place down the road? I dunno. Nowhere. I've never heard Iron Maiden, at least not that I know of.

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Wednesday, 26 October 2005 15:02 (twenty years ago)

THERE ARE JUKEBOXES AT PIZZA HUT?!?!

Oh yeah, Loggins and Messina: never heard them, either.

― jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 26 October 2005 15:02 (twenty years ago)

I blame my knowledge of classic rock on the job I had through college. Then again, this is also how I came to more deeply appreciate the Who and ZZ Top - in certain eras of their careers.

Xpost: and when I first heard Iron Maiden a soundguy was playing it throught PA when my old band was setting up. It was fucking awesome. Never quite held on to the magic, though.

― Df'nM (OutDatWay), Wednesday, 26 October 2005 15:03 (twenty years ago)

Whereas I have (and still do) actively listened to Iron Maiden and Led Zeppelin.

― Jordan (Jordan), Wednesday, 26 October 2005 15:04 (twenty years ago)

The ZZ Top cover band I saw about a year ago made me appreciate ZZ Top. Also Kenan putting "Cheap Sunglasses" on a mix CD once.

― jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 26 October 2005 15:04 (twenty years ago)

That's where I heard alot of tunes (jukeboxes at pizza joints) - oh, and on REGULAR RADIO as some of that stuff wasn't considered "classic" quite yet. (Sorry, didn't mean to shout - it's just that I wasn't allowed to listen to the radio until I was about 12, but I still managed to get all these songs drilled into my head)

We come from the land of the ice and snow,
From the midnight sun where the hot springs blow.
The hammer of the gods ...!

― Kittens Licking Cakes (coco), Wednesday, 26 October 2005 15:05 (twenty years ago)

I guess I listened to a lot of radio growing up. I also worked in a record store for four years post-college. I listened to a lot of country for some reason during those years. I might be Skeeter Davis for Halloween.

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Wednesday, 26 October 2005 15:07 (twenty years ago)

That is my favorite ZZ Top song evar. I wish I could play drums like Frank Beard on that song. xxpost

― Df'nM (OutDatWay), Wednesday, 26 October 2005 15:07 (twenty years ago)

When I saw Elastica in a small club years ago, they kept us waiting with ZZ Top playing as pre-show music for an hour or so.

― Eazy (Eazy), Wednesday, 26 October 2005 15:10 (twenty years ago)

it's just that I wasn't allowed to listen to the radio until I was about 12

I was blissfully ignorant of the radio until about that time, too, which more or less amounts to the same thing. I'm not sure what REGULAR RADIO means, though. In 6th grade, I listened to Z-95, which played contemporary Top 40 -- i.e., no old stuff.

― jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 26 October 2005 15:10 (twenty years ago)

I've got legs! (BRRRNG DRNNG BRRRNG) and I know how to use them! (BRRNG DRNNG BRRNG)
I've got lleeeeeeeeggggsss...

REGULAR RADIO means Top 40 radio, but shouted.

― Kittens Licking Cakes (coco), Wednesday, 26 October 2005 15:12 (twenty years ago)

I should make a list of songs from the 1980s I remember hearing on the radio during that decade.

― jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 26 October 2005 15:13 (twenty years ago)

There was just basically one rock radio station where I grew up and they played the best of the 70s and today (it was the 80s)...

― Kittens Licking Cakes (coco), Wednesday, 26 October 2005 15:13 (twenty years ago)

ugh. i just feel ugh today.

should i seek out pumpkin soup for lunch? grilled cheese? or something like a salmon filet (which i get on the cheap at the hospital?)

― kelsey (kelstarry), Wednesday, 26 October 2005 15:33 (twenty years ago)

In 6-8th grade I was listening to the r&b/hip-hop station that was playing Toni Braxton and g-funk. Sometime in there I decided it wasn't cool because my friends were listening to rock and metal, so I got into that.

― Jordan (Jordan), Wednesday, 26 October 2005 15:33 (twenty years ago)

Well well well, I was just reading the Allmusic profile of Steely Dan, and look what I found...

Steely Dan replaced Hodder with Jeff Pocaro and added keyboardist/backup vocalist Michael McDonald prior to recording their third album, Pretzel Logic.

So, jaymc, you HAVE heard Michael McDonald, just without knowing it. And I've brought our music discussion almost full circle.

― n/a (Nick A.), Wednesday, 26 October 2005 15:34 (twenty years ago)

There used to be an all-70s station in Chicago -- it only lasted a few years in the mid-90s before converting to Spanish-language (107.9). During my sophomore year of high school, I carpooled with this one girl to early morning choir practice, and whenever her mom drove, she listened to it. My greatest discovery from this station was "Silly Love Songs" by Wings, which I heard more than a few times.

Carpooling with other people's parents was also how I heard Madonna's "Cherish" in 1989.

― jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 26 October 2005 15:37 (twenty years ago)

i listened to the radio as early as i can remember. nobody would tell me what a centerfold was, though, and i was confused by the j. geils (sp i'm sure) song.

― Juulia (julesbdules), Wednesday, 26 October 2005 15:38 (twenty years ago)

I listened to hip hop/ R&B in middle school too. My first 45 was MISSING YOU by Diana Ross.

― Kittens Licking Cakes (coco), Wednesday, 26 October 2005 15:38 (twenty years ago)

"Centerfold" was the #1 song the week my brother was born.

Hip-hop/R&B for me was 8th-9th grades.

― jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 26 October 2005 15:39 (twenty years ago)

i think my first 45 was boy george & culture club.

― kelsey (kelstarry), Wednesday, 26 October 2005 15:39 (twenty years ago)

in 6th grade (& probably part of 7th) i listened to c + c music factory, marky mark & the funky bunch (my mom kept calling them "marky mark & the funky lunch"), and amy grant.

― kelsey (kelstarry), Wednesday, 26 October 2005 15:40 (twenty years ago)

My mom and I spent a lot of time driving around, so I guess that's where most of the radio came from in the early years (1976-84, before I started buying tapes and records). I have a big soft spot for songs like "Sentimental Lady" and "Sad Eyes" and even "Leader of the Band" because of driving around in her Caprice Classic with the ripped ragtop.

My first 45 that I bought of my own accord with allowance money was "Mickey" by Toni Basil.

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Wednesday, 26 October 2005 15:41 (twenty years ago)

I was all about Amy Grant when "Father's Eyes" came out.

― Kittens Licking Cakes (coco), Wednesday, 26 October 2005 15:41 (twenty years ago)

"Leader of the Band" is super cheesy. Oh, and "Sultans of Swing" was my favorite for a while too.

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Wednesday, 26 October 2005 15:41 (twenty years ago)

i totally loved sultans of swing!

we had a 45 of kim carnes singing 'bette davis eyes' that i made fun of all the time, because i hated her voice. but i was kind of fascinated by it too.

― Juulia (julesbdules), Wednesday, 26 October 2005 15:43 (twenty years ago)

we had that record! (kim carnes!)

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Wednesday, 26 October 2005 15:43 (twenty years ago)

And juice newton.

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Wednesday, 26 October 2005 15:47 (twenty years ago)

post-crap music phase i went straight into grunge & heavy metal (i.e. gwar, pantera, etc.)

― kelsey (kelstarry), Wednesday, 26 October 2005 15:54 (twenty years ago)

There's a handful of 80s songs that for years I only was familiar with via the Chipmunks versions (e.g., "Bette Davis Eyes," "Queen of Hearts," "Hit Me with Your Best Shot," etc.)

― jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 26 October 2005 16:02 (twenty years ago)

Haha, I could probably say the same thing about Weird Al.

― Jordan (Jordan), Wednesday, 26 October 2005 16:04 (twenty years ago)

Oh yeah, there were so many songs where I knew the Weird Al versions before I knew the "real" versions: the first one that pops into my head is "Another One Rides the Bus," which I heard maybe 3-4 years before I actually heard "Another One Bites the Dust."

― n/a (Nick A.), Wednesday, 26 October 2005 16:06 (twenty years ago)

In 4th grade or so my friends and i used "Eat It" as a hook to advertise our 4th Grade Ice Cream Social.

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Wednesday, 26 October 2005 16:09 (twenty years ago)

I still like "Girls Just Wanna have Lunch" better than the original.

― Df'nM (OutDatWay), Wednesday, 26 October 2005 16:30 (twenty years ago)

Not to be confused with the Kate Schellenbach/Josephine Wiggs project Ladies Who Lunch.

― jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 26 October 2005 16:36 (twenty years ago)

Taken from the Sondheim song "The Ladies Who Lunch" from the pinnacle of white-couch-era Manhattan musicals, Company.

― Eazy (Eazy), Wednesday, 26 October 2005 16:40 (twenty years ago)

Back to the Whitesox fan way up there.

I am not a white sox fan, but I am a sports fan, and I love Chicago. When my team is knocked out, or never had a chance (Cubs), I will root for whoever is left that has the most positive things going for them. The sox have the luxury of being in Chicago, so they get my support!

My rules for support are really complicated. It all boils down to never rooting for the braves or yankees. The rest I play by ear.

― Jeff-PTTL (Jeff), Wednesday, 26 October 2005 16:42 (twenty years ago)

I got the "Mardi Gras Special" from New Orleans Takeout for lunch. It consists of shrimp etoufee (i.e. shrimp, tomatoes, and rice), red beans and rice, dirty rice, and white rice. It is basically a lot of rice, and a little light on the other stuff. It's not bad, but it reminds me why I always regret ordering anything other than a po' boy from this place.

― Jordan (Jordan), Wednesday, 26 October 2005 17:04 (twenty years ago)

The side of cornbread is by far the best part.

― Jordan (Jordan), Wednesday, 26 October 2005 17:04 (twenty years ago)

They should call that the Rices of New Orleans plate.

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Wednesday, 26 October 2005 17:10 (twenty years ago)

Eric, did you get the email about the show from Theresa? She said she had your email but I couldn't tell if she cc'd you or not. Is that your correct email address here next to your name?

― n/a (Nick A.), Wednesday, 26 October 2005 17:12 (twenty years ago)

Taken from the Sondheim song "The Ladies Who Lunch" from the pinnacle of white-couch-era Manhattan musicals, Company.

Is that where it originated? Google turned up hundreds of thousands of hits, and I know I've heard it referenced in other contexts, too.

― jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 26 October 2005 17:29 (twenty years ago)

Nick, I just got it a few minutes back from her - the address here works, but the main one I use is my first name and the first four letters of my last name at yahoo.

xp - I think Sondheim came up with it, unless it started as some kind of Upper East Side girl gang.

― Eazy (Eazy), Wednesday, 26 October 2005 17:30 (twenty years ago)

Speaking of music at the World Series, and forgive me if someone mentioned this upthread, but frankly, Liz Phair sounded like shit when she warbled out God Bless America. Her voice is great for things like lo-fi growly Exile in Guyville indie rock, and it's just fine when it's all equalized and tweaked and polished or whatever gets done to voices on pop music records today, but straight up singing? With just an acoustic guitar? It's not so good. I cringed a lot.

― pullapartgirl (pullapartgirl), Wednesday, 26 October 2005 17:56 (twenty years ago)

I did, too.

― jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 26 October 2005 18:12 (twenty years ago)

I got bored during the Poxyness so I added a whole bunch of you as flickr contacts.
I think the first tape I ever had that wasn't kids music, oldies, or classical music was a copy of Thriller.

― jocelyn (Jocelyn), Wednesday, 26 October 2005 18:13 (twenty years ago)

My first tape was Eric Carmen's Greatest Hits, followed by Faith.
First CD was either the B-52's Cosmic Thing or TMBG's Flood.

― n/a (Nick A.), Wednesday, 26 October 2005 18:17 (twenty years ago)

I think we've done this before.

First tape (bought with my own money): Tiffany, Tiffany
First CD: P.M. Dawn, Of the Heart, of the Soul, and of the Cross: The Utopian Experience

― jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 26 October 2005 18:18 (twenty years ago)

That's George Michael's Faith, BTW.

― n/a (Nick A.), Wednesday, 26 October 2005 18:19 (twenty years ago)

I'm getting depressed about my future again.

― n/a (Nick A.), Wednesday, 26 October 2005 18:20 (twenty years ago)

first 45 - already covered that
first tape: Cyndi Lauper, She's So Unusual
first CD: Depeche Mode 101 or NIN Pretty Hate Machine, I can't remember. Even after I started buying CDs I still bought tapes of albums I didn't want to pay $20 for.

what happened to school, nick?

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Wednesday, 26 October 2005 18:23 (twenty years ago)

NIIIIIIICCCCCCCKKKKKKK, NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!

― Kittens Licking Cakes (coco), Wednesday, 26 October 2005 18:28 (twenty years ago)

First LP that was mine and mine alone (my father had roughly ten billion records that I was free to listen to whenever I wanted so I didn't have a lot of motivation to go buy my own albums): Kiss - Destroyer and Rock and Roll Over
First mine and mine alone 45: The Gap Band - You Dropped the Bomb on Me
First tape: I really have no idea. I was still buying records around Def Leppard's Pyromania so it would make sense for my first tape to be some sort of hair metal nonsense.
First CD: Guns and Roses - Appetite for Destruction.
First mp3: Bonnie Prince Billy - Nomadic Revery (All Around)

I was a late adopter of downloadable digital music. Jeff sent me that mp3 over ICQ!

― pullapartgirl (pullapartgirl), Wednesday, 26 October 2005 18:28 (twenty years ago)

First 7" - Ghostbusters theme
First tape - MC Hammer, I think.
First cd - I dunno. Also MC Hammer, I think.

― Jordan (Jordan), Wednesday, 26 October 2005 18:29 (twenty years ago)

first tape: black box or technotronic
first cd: phil collins, "but seriously"

― kelsey (kelstarry), Wednesday, 26 October 2005 18:31 (twenty years ago)

Oh and also My First Record (tm) came to our house from Columbia Music Club when I was like four years old. So I had neither motivation nor money nor the ability to get myself to a record store. Or do much in-depth liner note reading for that matter. I didn't pick the records out. I think they were the album of the month and my dad forgot to return the NO card. But I remember, like it was yesterday, opening the package and seeing these cartoon monsters stomping all over a city and I thought, "Whoa. This is my favorite band ever based just on cover art." Or whatever a four-year-old version of that thought is.

Within a year, I had a Kiss lunch box, Kiss Colorforms, and enough posters on my walls that certain of my cousins were too scared to sleep in my room. Kiss were my NKOTB!

― pullapartgirl (pullapartgirl), Wednesday, 26 October 2005 18:34 (twenty years ago)

I was scared of Kiss, but I remember seeing the Kiss dolls in Gold Circle and not wanting them. What a wuss! My heart was reserved for Paul McCartney.

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Wednesday, 26 October 2005 18:37 (twenty years ago)

I really don't know that I want to go back to school. I realize I would much rather just get a better job than go back to school, but I don't know how I can get a better job without going back to school. I think I'm just tired and listless and not looking forward to an evening of hanging out with my dad alone where he will bug me about going back to school and jobs and my future, none of which I have good answers for.

― n/a (Nick A.), Wednesday, 26 October 2005 18:40 (twenty years ago)

When your dad says, "What do you want to do with your life?" say, "I WANNA ROCK."

Then turn into Dee Snyder. That will teach him not to bug you about your future!

― pullapartgirl (pullapartgirl), Wednesday, 26 October 2005 18:43 (twenty years ago)

nick, just show your dad a hamburger & say, "dad. see this hamburger? well, i won't eat it. not even if you paid me $50 to eat it. i just wouldn't. i'm even feeling a little weird that i ordered it just to prove a point. maybe you'd like it? anyway, we need to watch the sox because that's what it takes to be True Chicago. Let's talk about that other stuff next time, okay?"

― kelsey (kelstarry), Wednesday, 26 October 2005 18:43 (twenty years ago)

I don't get the hamburger.

― jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 26 October 2005 18:45 (twenty years ago)

first tapes: synchronicity and the cars' greatest hits.

ugh, future-talks with dads are always harsh.

― Juulia (julesbdules), Wednesday, 26 October 2005 18:47 (twenty years ago)

what's not to get?

just kidding. i just threw it in there for no reason at all.

― kelsey (kelstarry), Wednesday, 26 October 2005 18:47 (twenty years ago)

But seriously, in as much as I have any credibility whatsoever to give life advice, which is very debatable, there is no rush. 30 is the new 20. You have a million years to just do things you enjoy while you figure out what you want to "do with your life" or if you even want to do anything at all. Your dad might disagree, but that's part of watching your parents grow up.

― pullapartgirl (pullapartgirl), Wednesday, 26 October 2005 18:48 (twenty years ago)

When my parents gave me grief about my problems through college and with getting a job, I would always harken back to the picture in our photo album of them smoking ginormous joints with their grad school friends in a field. I would then think "We're not so different after all" and feel better.

― Df'nM (OutDatWay), Wednesday, 26 October 2005 18:49 (twenty years ago)

Really I know I should just not focus so much on job/career as something that identifies me and hence needs to be "figured out," especially because pretty much everything else in my life is great and fun and I should just focus on that as my identity but I guess it's because the one part of my life I'm unhappy with that I tend to fixate on it, also because I have to spend like 40 fucking percent of my adult life doing it. I want to go home and get in bed and then maybe later watch some baseball.

― n/a (Nick A.), Wednesday, 26 October 2005 18:51 (twenty years ago)

my sister is 36 and just finished the undergrad requirements so she could start on grad school (again). there's lots of time to figure things out. the future is a really scary thing to think about though.

the bed adn baseball plan sounds good--much better than worrying about thigns.

― Juulia (julesbdules), Wednesday, 26 October 2005 18:53 (twenty years ago)

also because I have to spend like 40 fucking percent of my adult life doing it

Yeah, this is the worst part. I usually don't mind too much having a job that I'm not excited about because life's not just about the job, yo, but it does take up an inordinate amount of time, and I sometimes wonder how many awesome things I could be doing if I wasn't stuck in a cubicle five days a week.

― jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 26 October 2005 18:54 (twenty years ago)

My parents are just happy that I'm not gay.

― Jeff-PTTL (Jeff), Wednesday, 26 October 2005 18:56 (twenty years ago)

I know we're past this, but I just wanted to point out:

What a fool believes- Classic or Dud
Songs which sound like "What a Fool Believes" or "Minute by Minute"?
C or perhaps D: The Doobie Brothers - "What a Fool Believes"
Taking Got-Damn Sides: Robbie DuPree's Steal Away vs. The Doobie Brothers' What a Fool Believes

― Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Wednesday, 26 October 2005 18:58 (twenty years ago)

xpost re: Jeff - That's true. His mother told me so.

― pullapartgirl (pullapartgirl), Wednesday, 26 October 2005 19:00 (twenty years ago)

Maybe booze will help! Here's the crazy mulled wine recipe my mom makes:

2 qt dry red wine
2 quarts muscatel
1 pt sweet vermouth
2 T Angostura bitters
2 C raisins
peelings of one orange
12 whole cardamoms bruised in a mortar with a pestle or by covering with a
towel and crushing with a rolling pin
10 whole cloves
1 2-in piece of fresh ginger
1 stick cinnamon
12 oz aquavit
1 1/2 C sugar
2 C whole almonds, blanched and peeled

In a 6 to 8 quart enameled or stainless pot, mix together everything from
the wine to the spices. Cover and let stand for at least 12 hours.
Shortly before serving, add the aquavit and the sugar. Bring to a boil
over high heat and remove at once. Add the almonds and serve the hot
drink in mugs.

For a simpler version, divide the quantities of spices in half and mix
them with 2 bottles of dry red wine. Leave it overnight, then stir in 3/4
C of sugar and warm almost to a boil. Remove from the heat, stir in 1 C
of whole blanched and peeled almonds. Serve hot.

― Df'nM (OutDatWay), Wednesday, 26 October 2005 19:03 (twenty years ago)

nick, i only asked because i have a feeling that your dad is maybe a little like my dad. we had a horrible christmas blowup maybe 5-6 years ago where i freaked out and cried and told my parents that i could tell that they weren't proud of me -- the whole scene was embarrassing and mortifying. my dad used to lie to his friends because he was embarrassed that i was a waitress/retail employee/nobody. he told people that i "wrote a column for the local paper." i didn't.

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Wednesday, 26 October 2005 19:03 (twenty years ago)

the holidays seem like a common time for things like that to happen, which is part of why i dread them. lots of recent christmases and thanksgivings in my family have included big dramatic speeches about "would you just LOOK at what your life has BECOME" and yelling and tears and ridiculous accusations. because i'm supposed to be collecting graduate degrees or making massive amounts of money by now, and, well, that's not quite happening.

― Juulia (julesbdules), Wednesday, 26 October 2005 19:11 (twenty years ago)

Nick, if I make the Donald Trump face, will you be happy?

― Kittens Licking Cakes (coco), Wednesday, 26 October 2005 19:12 (twenty years ago)

I guess I should be glad my parents have been pretty supportive. Generally, they'd only bug me about stuff if I 1)got bad grades or 2)ran out of money/ran up debt 3)was bitching about my situation.

― Df'nM (OutDatWay), Wednesday, 26 October 2005 19:14 (twenty years ago)

First LP - Billy Joel - The Stranger
First Cassette - Men at Work - Business as Usual
First CD - Sugarcubes - Life's Too Good

― Eazy (Eazy), Wednesday, 26 October 2005 19:14 (twenty years ago)

And also, as I'm sure you're aware, Julia, that's a pretty silly accusation seeing as how you have other things to deal with beyond your control.

I think my family is pretty much ok with my lack of ambition in the workplace, excepting maybe my lawyer sister who is worried she'll have to support the rest of us financially.

― Kittens Licking Cakes (coco), Wednesday, 26 October 2005 19:17 (twenty years ago)

sarah, brooke's work crush just invited her to the halloween party he's having. there is a chance this may conflict with the party i'd much rather be at (yours) because she needs "back up" & honestly, i owe her big time.

― kelsey (kelstarry), Wednesday, 26 October 2005 19:18 (twenty years ago)

The key to making your parents happy: Be a terribly slack-ass, often drunk and dreadfully disappointing person for most of your 20s. When you turn 30, start working on an advanced degree, then get married. Your parents will think they won the lottery, but little do they know that you just enjoyed yourself and tried different things until you found your true love* and, if not your true calling, at least something reasonably interesting to do for a living.

Granted, this doesn't solve your immediate problem, but taking the long view, it is very possible to remedy any damage that you think you're doing to your parent/child relationship by chosing to take things at your own speed.

*While you may have already found your true love, if your parents are like mine, they won't believe you mean it until you get married so this works even if you marry someone that you have been with for a long time.

― pullapartgirl (pullapartgirl), Wednesday, 26 October 2005 19:19 (twenty years ago)

Jenny, I used that very same method and am pleased to report that it works beautifully.

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Wednesday, 26 October 2005 19:21 (twenty years ago)

My parents are very supportive, and my dad tends to frame his nagging in either jokey or concerned form, so I can't really get mad at him. We don't get into huge blowout fights about it. I just really don't have the energy to deal with his questions about my future tonight. It doesn't help that he's here without my mom, because she's usually pretty good at realizing when he's being too obtrusive or pushing too much or when I don't want to talk about it.

― n/a (Nick A.), Wednesday, 26 October 2005 19:23 (twenty years ago)

I guess I need to be more of a fuck-up, I have raised their expectations too high by going to college, being responsible, etc. Sometimes I worry I have focused too much on doing the responsible/realistic things instead of doing what interests or excites me.

― n/a (Nick A.), Wednesday, 26 October 2005 19:24 (twenty years ago)

I started in grade school. "Does not work to full potential." Yeah, dawg.

― pullapartgirl (pullapartgirl), Wednesday, 26 October 2005 19:26 (twenty years ago)

Maybe try directing the conversation (if it takes a turn in the direction you think it will) to focus on the good things you've got going now (i.e. the recording you mentioned?)

― Df'nM (OutDatWay), Wednesday, 26 October 2005 19:26 (twenty years ago)

xpost - They said that about me too.

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Wednesday, 26 October 2005 19:28 (twenty years ago)

But look at it this way - since you have set up such high expectations, and are such a smart and excellent person to begin with, you don't have to fuck up very much to dissapoint those expectations and get everything back on track for the Pulla Secret to Parental Approval (TM). My plan works for everyone! Buy my tapes!

― pullapartgirl (pullapartgirl), Wednesday, 26 October 2005 19:28 (twenty years ago)

I am going to put roofies in his drink and watch baseball in his hotel room.

― n/a (Nick A.), Wednesday, 26 October 2005 19:29 (twenty years ago)

Also, I think if you talk about the good things you've got going (which I agree are many) using CLEVER HAND PUPPETS, you can't lose.

― pullapartgirl (pullapartgirl), Wednesday, 26 October 2005 19:29 (twenty years ago)

Roofies work, too. Roofies always work.

― pullapartgirl (pullapartgirl), Wednesday, 26 October 2005 19:30 (twenty years ago)

Why does it feel like the end of the week already? Maybe because I went to a ROCK SHOW on Monday and GOT DRUNK IN A SPORTS BAR last night. For a split second when I woke up this morning I thought it was Saturday.

― jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 26 October 2005 19:31 (twenty years ago)

This week is interminable! I agree.

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Wednesday, 26 October 2005 19:32 (twenty years ago)

roofies are an excellent idea for dealing with parental pressure. how did i not get this idea from arrested development?

xp yes it's a loooong week.

― Juulia (julesbdules), Wednesday, 26 October 2005 19:32 (twenty years ago)

It seems like I'm so far away from my life goals. I should have never flunked out of college the first time.

― Jeff-PTTL (Jeff), Wednesday, 26 October 2005 19:35 (twenty years ago)

Just remember, all we are is dust in the wiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiind.

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Wednesday, 26 October 2005 19:37 (twenty years ago)

I'm comforted by my own cosmic insignificance.

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Wednesday, 26 October 2005 19:38 (twenty years ago)

It's a good thing I've never set any life goals beyond going on tour with a band and one day moving back to the U.P.

― Df'nM (OutDatWay), Wednesday, 26 October 2005 19:38 (twenty years ago)

I feel better now that I got EXCELSIORED for being a dick to somebody.

― n/a (Nick A.), Wednesday, 26 October 2005 19:44 (twenty years ago)

I'm comforted by my own cosmic insignificance.

Me, too! Me, too! Also by CLASSIC ROCK.

― pullapartgirl (pullapartgirl), Wednesday, 26 October 2005 19:47 (twenty years ago)

Me too. Are we kidding ourselves? Probably.

Does knowing this bother me? Not really.

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Wednesday, 26 October 2005 19:48 (twenty years ago)

Time keeps on slipping, slipping, slipping into the future.

― Eazy (Eazy), Wednesday, 26 October 2005 19:49 (twenty years ago)

What does it signify to be EXCELSIORED?

Also, we read a case in labor law about a company called EXCELSIOR UNDERWEAR.

Amanda, to paraphrase even more classic rock, Whatever gets us through the night.

― pullapartgirl (pullapartgirl), Wednesday, 26 October 2005 19:49 (twenty years ago)

Ha! Eazy, when I was a kid that song used to crack me up because he said, "Shoe the children, no shoes on their feet." I have no idea why, but I would wait for that line to come up and then laugh and laugh and laugh.

― pullapartgirl (pullapartgirl), Wednesday, 26 October 2005 19:50 (twenty years ago)

It's that way they (parents) reduce you to feeling 12 again. I think I'm just secretly afraid that I will end up living in a van down by the river like they warned me about if I didn't get good grades and be nice to the new kids or whatever.
Last year at Thanksgiving my dad suggested that graduate school was a "noble calling" and I responded my drinking two bottles of his wine and watching cartoons.

― jocelyn (Jocelyn), Wednesday, 26 October 2005 19:52 (twenty years ago)

my stomach is full of jellybeans.

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Wednesday, 26 October 2005 20:16 (twenty years ago)

Shoe the children! Heart the frigid!

― Eazy (Eazy), Wednesday, 26 October 2005 20:18 (twenty years ago)

Hey guys. I've been working and reading recaps of the last three Lost episodes for the last hour.

My dad only really cared about the job/success thing, so now that I have a decent one he can't really criticize, which is nice. My mom has all kinds of crazy expectations, but none of them are about the job/success thing (because she's never really had a job and lives off the state + her family). They're mostly about religion and family.

― Jordan (Jordan), Wednesday, 26 October 2005 20:26 (twenty years ago)

That's one crazy mulled wine recipe, Dan. I was wrong about Maddie's mulling spices yesterday - they're not from Penzey's, they were a Christmas present from her mom a couple years back. I think we're going to try the mulled wine recipe on the back of the jar tonight.

― Jordan (Jordan), Wednesday, 26 October 2005 20:30 (twenty years ago)

(Hey, S., did you end up getting wine for that dinner a week or two ago?)

― Eazy (Eazy), Wednesday, 26 October 2005 21:33 (twenty years ago)

Is mulled wine in any way similar to GLUG? Because glug tastes like potpourri stewed in gasoline.

― pullapartgirl (pullapartgirl), Wednesday, 26 October 2005 22:26 (twenty years ago)

If you bring the wine to a boil in that recipe, doesn't the alcohol evaporate?

― I do feel guilty for getting any perverse amusement out of it (Rock Hardy), Wednesday, 26 October 2005 22:30 (twenty years ago)

Based on my culinary expertise drawn entirely from watching Iron Chef and Good Eats on the Food Network, I think you would have to boil the booze for a sustained amount of time to get rid of all the alcohol. Since you're bringing this wine to a boil and then taking it off immediately, I think it's okay.

― pullapartgirl (pullapartgirl), Wednesday, 26 October 2005 22:36 (twenty years ago)

Interesting. Maddie's making a sauce using vodka tonight, and we were wondering what the point of the vodka is since it presumably evaporates.

Btw, it looks like I may be in Chicago this weekend after all, for weird family stuff.

― Jordan (Jordan), Wednesday, 26 October 2005 22:39 (twenty years ago)

Does your weird family stuff include a Halloween party at N&S's?

― pullapartgirl (pullapartgirl), Wednesday, 26 October 2005 23:56 (twenty years ago)

I hope so!

― Jordan (Jordan), Thursday, 27 October 2005 00:15 (twenty years ago)

Damn yeah!

― pullapartgirl (pullapartgirl), Thursday, 27 October 2005 00:44 (twenty years ago)

Oh, I know this I know this! Some flavor compounds are apparently only alchohol-soluble. This is the genius of vodka sauce, and I don't think it all evaporates out -- you're not flaming the sauce, after all. The Rachel Ray recipe for "You Won't Be Single for Long Vodka Sauce" adds voddy & cream both near the end so I image there's a bit of active booze still.

Also, she was lying about the sauce.

― Laurel, Thursday, 27 October 2005 00:45 (twenty years ago)

Hey, we won. Lots of honking at Dearborn and Division, outside my window.

― Eazy (Eazy), Thursday, 27 October 2005 04:17 (twenty years ago)

Go Sox! (says the Minnesotan)

I am drunk. FYI.

I rode down Western giving high-fives to people on the sidewalk and nearly got killed. Someone pulled out into my lane and I had to swerve around them. bu-bu-but I delivered a PUNCH to their front left headlight! CASHBACK!

Then I yelled at them at the next intersection.

Go Sox!

I haven't read much (viz. zero) of this thread today, but:

(a) jaymc: someone had to sit you down to listen to Zeppelin? Jesus wept.

(b) Anything that I do that doesn't involve getting arrested seems to make my parents happy. They're easy that way.

(d) ...

(e) Profit!

― giboyeux (skowly), Thursday, 27 October 2005 05:05 (twenty years ago)

jaymc: Even the 80s Chicago? Even in house remix form?? "Everybody needs some time away/I heard her say/FROM EACH OOOOOTHER/...After all that we've been through/I will make it up to you/I promise to..."? "If you see me walking by/And the tears are in my eyes/Look away, baby, look away"? Don't you make regular visits to the dentist?

― Sundar (sundar), Thursday, 27 October 2005 05:12 (twenty years ago)

Haha, I have not been to a dentist in five years. Sundar, what are you doing on this thread?!

― jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 27 October 2005 06:03 (twenty years ago)

1. Hanging out with my dad was pretty easy. We had the job talk first thing but he gave me beer so I relaxed, and I basically admitted that I had no idea what I wanted to do but he offered to help me pay for employment counseling if I want to do that, and even attempted to be encouraging about me persuing a music-related career (which I don't think I would do anyways, but it was nice of him). Then we went to Big Bowl and our waiter was the singer from a band we've played with so I got to act like a big shot because I ran into somebody I knew in the BIG CITY (which is also funny because last time my parents were here we went to Irazu and ran into the keyboard player from the Dials and our upstairs neighbors, so we seemed really well-connected then too).

2. I went to bed pretty early last night, when the game was still 0-0 but the guy next door had his TV/radio on FULL BLAST! and then around 11:30, which is I guess when the Sox scored, he started yelling "WHOOOOO! WHOOOOOOOOO!" at the top of his voice and so I kind of figured we had won.

― n/a (Nick A.), Thursday, 27 October 2005 12:44 (twenty years ago)

YAY SOX!!
I stayed up late watching the game, got up at 5, was at work by 6:40, printed out dan's novel on the company printer (401 pages!) and have done nary a lick of work since i got here two hours ago. i have loaded a bunch of photos onto my flickr account since i upgraded to PRO! i should probably get to work.

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Thursday, 27 October 2005 12:48 (twenty years ago)

i'm glad your dad is so cool, nick. he sounds way more laid back than my dad.

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Thursday, 27 October 2005 12:48 (twenty years ago)

Congratulations, Chicago.

― I do feel guilty for getting any perverse amusement out of it (Rock Hardy), Thursday, 27 October 2005 12:51 (twenty years ago)

Late watching the game? It was over at like 6pm compared to the night before.

― Jeff-PTTL (Jeff), Thursday, 27 October 2005 12:55 (twenty years ago)

Well, yeah, you're right, but I had to get up at 5. So anything after 10 is late for me.

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Thursday, 27 October 2005 12:57 (twenty years ago)

Hey, grammar and spelling and writing smarties! Would somebody do me the kindness of proof reading a cover letter/personal statement for a labor law job this summer? I'll warn you, it's full of self-aggrandizement and high-falutin' crap about changing the world through union organization, so please don't judge me by its contents. Unless you are on the application committee.

― pullapartgirl (pullapartgirl), Thursday, 27 October 2005 13:19 (twenty years ago)

i'm happy to look at it jenny . . . but i wonder if eric, john & amanda are better suited for the work.

btw, your photos are great, amanda!

― kelsey (kelstarry), Thursday, 27 October 2005 13:20 (twenty years ago)

I would proofread as well.

― Jordan (Jordan), Thursday, 27 October 2005 13:21 (twenty years ago)

John would be the prime candidate, since he proofreads for a living. But so did I three weeks ago.

― Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Thursday, 27 October 2005 13:22 (twenty years ago)

i'm glad to look at it too, jenny but i'm not a grammatical nitpicker (as i'm sure you've noticed from my legions of errors) -- i'm more of a syntactical observer than an adjudicatrix. but sure -- send it along! i can certainly read for clarity of purpose!

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Thursday, 27 October 2005 13:24 (twenty years ago)

Amanda, what's your flickr name? I don't think I have you.

Maddie just got a pro account and uploaded a SHITLOAD of pictures, mostly zombies.

― Jordan (Jordan), Thursday, 27 October 2005 13:24 (twenty years ago)

it's ratso finnerty -- you can link through kelsey or sarah or jenny.

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Thursday, 27 October 2005 13:25 (twenty years ago)

make me your contact! i friended jocelyn too, but i don't know if we're linked yet.

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Thursday, 27 October 2005 13:28 (twenty years ago)

I'm about to sign off the internet for the day, but Kelsey and Amanda and Jordan, I will happily send you the letter, and if John or EZBake express an interest, you can forward it to them.

Thanks, pals!

― pullapartgirl (pullapartgirl), Thursday, 27 October 2005 13:31 (twenty years ago)

Oh yeah! That's a pretty cool interface for adding contacts. I still don't see you, though?

― Jordan (Jordan), Thursday, 27 October 2005 13:34 (twenty years ago)

Eazy, I never got any wine, because at the last second the dinner changed from homemade spinach lasagna to take out from Arturro's and margaritas. It was delicious though.

I do want to try buying wine at some point. Nick and I tried a bottle last night that we had on top of the fridge (people bring us wine sometimes and then we forget where we got them). I don't know nuffin bout nuffin but I didn't like this one so much. It wasn't sweet enough for me. It was red though. It gets points for that.

I hardly slept a wink last night and when I did I had nightmares. I was up sick ALL NIGHT - no idea what brought that on - and the screaming/honking from the Sox victory sounded like full-on rioting from my bed. My eyes would dart open and my heart would be pounding and I kept thinking it was the apocolypse.

― Kittens Licking Cakes (coco), Thursday, 27 October 2005 13:35 (twenty years ago)

that's a fuckload of zombie photos! so awesome!!

― kelsey (kelstarry), Thursday, 27 October 2005 13:35 (twenty years ago)

oh no! sarah! are you feeling ok today? you need some comfort food.

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Thursday, 27 October 2005 13:39 (twenty years ago)

there, jordan -- i added you as my contact. you should get an email or something?

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Thursday, 27 October 2005 13:42 (twenty years ago)

I would like to officially request friend status with Amanda, Jocelyn, and Jordan, but I can't find any of you. Send me links.

― Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Thursday, 27 October 2005 13:48 (twenty years ago)

Yep, I did, cool.

xpost, mine's http://www.flickr.com/photos/hotbeatz

― Jordan (Jordan), Thursday, 27 October 2005 13:50 (twenty years ago)

I don't know what brought it on. I have a very weak stomach. I had cream of wheat for breakfast, and that made me feel comforted for a little while, but I think I need to eat my apple now to keep it at bay.

Kelsey, do you think you n brooke could make my party the preparty or the afterparty??

― Kittens Licking Cakes (coco), Thursday, 27 October 2005 13:57 (twenty years ago)

Why does MS Word suck so much ass? It ALWAYS freezes up.

― Jordan (Jordan), Thursday, 27 October 2005 14:01 (twenty years ago)

apples can be hard on the tum, though -- maybe some crackers or something? i had too much coffee this morning. now i feel spazzy.

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Thursday, 27 October 2005 14:02 (twenty years ago)

sarah, you should try dessert wine. some of them (lots of them actually) are waaay too sweet, but there was one that i used to get that was wonderful. they're in these cute little skinny bottles too. well, my favorite one was, and of course i don't remember the name of it. but it was kinda fizzy like champagne and a fruity, it was some sort of muscat.

i had this dream last night about walking around NYC totally lost, and i needed to find public transportation so i could make my way home, but nobody could tell me where the station was. so i just walked around, and the streets were crowded with people, and everything was interesting, so i didn't really care that i was lost.

― Juulia (julesbdules), Thursday, 27 October 2005 14:05 (twenty years ago)

http://www.flickr.com/photos/jeff

― Jeff-PTTL (Jeff), Thursday, 27 October 2005 14:09 (twenty years ago)

Moscato D'Asti - party on your tongue

― Jordan (Jordan), Thursday, 27 October 2005 14:09 (twenty years ago)

I have an apple - a very small one - but no crackers. The only other thing I brought with me today is yogurt. I'm cold ! And sleepy ! And whiney !

I am very happy for the Sox. They're a great underdog team.

― Kittens Licking Cakes (coco), Thursday, 27 October 2005 14:11 (twenty years ago)

Can I? Yes, you can. Anytime.
C-A-N-E-I, Canei wine.

That's not a recommendation, really, since I don't know if Canei wine is even sold anymore, but that was one of my favorite jingles of all time. Next to "Coast: Feel Alive with Coast."

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Thursday, 27 October 2005 14:13 (twenty years ago)

sarah, i found out that brooke has someone else to go with, and my priority is YOUR party. as long as i'm not feeling too emo & like curling into a small ball, i'm going to come to your place on saturday.

― kelsey (kelstarry), Thursday, 27 October 2005 14:18 (twenty years ago)

Not dispair sarah, but I think it's funny how the white sox have been called an underdog team. True in many previous years, but they lead their division all year, won 99 games and had the second best record in all of baseball! They were good bordering on great all year, and kicked it up in the play offs.

Now the Cubs, that's an underdog team.

― Jeff-PTTL (Jeff), Thursday, 27 October 2005 14:22 (twenty years ago)

Ha ha.
I know the sox have been playing really well, but it still seems like most of Chicago didn't care that much until very recently. I CARED! I CARED ALL ALONG! Plus,
their games used to be a lot cheaper and easier to get your hands on than Cubs games = underdog

― Kittens Licking Cakes (coco), Thursday, 27 October 2005 14:27 (twenty years ago)

Uh, theoretically, if Maddie and I came to the party on Saturday and got too drunk or tired to drive home, would there be anywhere we could crash?

― Jordan (Jordan), Thursday, 27 October 2005 14:28 (twenty years ago)

We will fashion a bed for you out of twigs and leaves and scraps of fabric! You gotta come to the PARTY!

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Thursday, 27 October 2005 14:29 (twenty years ago)

I think they count as an underdog team: none of the media ever seemed to take them seriously. Near the end of the regular season, everyone seemed to assume the Indians would knock them out, then for each level of the postseason, it was like "Well, it's nice they made it this far, but they don't stand a chance," which is weird considering their dominant numbers.

Jordan: you could stay at our place, but isn't one of you allergic to cats? Also, another one of our friends from Madison might be crashing here too, so we would have a full house. But that would be ok, we have a couch that fits one and a futon that fits two.

― n/a (Nick A.), Thursday, 27 October 2005 14:30 (twenty years ago)

Plus the whole "not winning a World Series in 90 years" thing.

― n/a (Nick A.), Thursday, 27 October 2005 14:31 (twenty years ago)

Kelsey, screw being mopey! I'm glad you might be able to come now. :-)

I want some FUCKIN AWESOME soup for lunch and a big chunk of bread. Is that too much to ask?

Jordan, I have a friend who will be sleeping on our futon, BUT you could crash on the floor/couch/whereever.

― Kittens Licking Cakes (coco), Thursday, 27 October 2005 14:31 (twenty years ago)

Not caring that you're lost = classic.

― Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Thursday, 27 October 2005 14:32 (twenty years ago)

I'd have to check with Jenny, but you could sleep on our air mattress in our sun room. Not too private, but if you get drunk like jaymc, it's perfect!

― Jeff-PTTL (Jeff), Thursday, 27 October 2005 14:33 (twenty years ago)

Which reminds me -- that dream sounds inspired by our conversation about directionlessness and life and parents...eh?

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Thursday, 27 October 2005 14:33 (twenty years ago)

Not really...we're both technically allergic, but we have eight thousand cats and are used to it.

Thanks guys, I would guess that we will drive back on Saturday night but it's nice to have a fallback.

― Jordan (Jordan), Thursday, 27 October 2005 14:33 (twenty years ago)

it's not mopiness . . . there's a chance i just may be too emotionally wiped out to do much of anything. you know, the whole crying for two days in a row thing. but i do get to hang with my parents tonight, which will be great.

― kelsey (kelstarry), Thursday, 27 October 2005 14:34 (twenty years ago)

Hi.

I wish I had seen the game last night. We had band rehearsal. Matt thought about suggesting we cancel it to watch the game, but then realized he would hypocritical because there's been things that other people have wanted to go but couldn't because of practice.

I navigated through several street corners of honking and flag-waving (notably at Fullerton/Western) while driving home.

Then Matt and I were interviewed at Hungry Brain by a new magazine called The Machine. For the final question, Matt gave his top five Chicago restaurants for meat-lovers and I gave my top five Chicago veggie places (for the record: Soul Vegetarian East, Amitabul, Victory's Banner, Alice and Friends, and Sultan's Market).

― jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 27 October 2005 14:36 (twenty years ago)

sorry if that sounded bitchy or whatever. i didn't mean for it to! i'm just trying to be realistic about what this weekend might entail.

― kelsey (kelstarry), Thursday, 27 October 2005 14:37 (twenty years ago)

Totally.

Also: I'm happy to proofread any documents you wish to send me.

― jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 27 October 2005 14:38 (twenty years ago)

john, i'll forward it to ya.

― kelsey (kelstarry), Thursday, 27 October 2005 14:39 (twenty years ago)

Jordan, I like your attitude towards cat allergies. I'm technically allergic too, an we seem to have so many cat allergic friends. Just pick up francie and sniff her for a couple of hours, you will adapt!

― Jeff-PTTL (Jeff), Thursday, 27 October 2005 14:39 (twenty years ago)

I still have yet to eat at Soul Vegetarian or Amitabul.

― n/a (Nick A.), Thursday, 27 October 2005 14:40 (twenty years ago)

John, does "The Machine" have a website or anything?

― n/a (Nick A.), Thursday, 27 October 2005 14:41 (twenty years ago)

sarah, for soup, i'm a big fan of the pumpkin soup at au bon pain. it's waaaaay better than their veggie chili (which is awful, in my opinion)

― kelsey (kelstarry), Thursday, 27 October 2005 14:42 (twenty years ago)

OH no, Kelsey! I somehow completely forgot for a second WHY you'll be out of town. I'm really sorry I made a flippant comment about mopiness - that was uncalled for.

Also, Nick, how could you forget RETARDED POTATO??

― Kittens Licking Cakes (coco), Thursday, 27 October 2005 14:42 (twenty years ago)

In that case, sarah, I'm glad that you were going to call me out on it! I appreciate people that can say "screw mopey!"

― kelsey (kelstarry), Thursday, 27 October 2005 14:45 (twenty years ago)

Jaymc, would you proofread my liner notes for the new D1gd0wn album? They're just track descriptions, reaaally short.

― Jordan (Jordan), Thursday, 27 October 2005 14:46 (twenty years ago)

Yeah, Nick:

themachinemedia.com

The site looks kind of shoddily put-together, but I'm hoping the print magazine will be good.

Jordan: sure.

― jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 27 October 2005 14:47 (twenty years ago)

oh my lord!!! i just looked at jocelyn's photos & she is so foxy & sexy! my goodness! I don't think my memory is all that clear from when I met her . . .

― kelsey (kelstarry), Thursday, 27 October 2005 14:48 (twenty years ago)

(evidence for Nick here)

― Kittens Licking Cakes (coco), Thursday, 27 October 2005 14:48 (twenty years ago)

oooo, i have alice and friends leftovers in my fridge.

Which reminds me -- that dream sounds inspired by our conversation about directionlessness and life and parents...eh?

hmm. maybe. i hadn't thought of that, it just seemed like something out of nowhere. but directionlessness i can certainly relate to, i'm chock full o' that. not caring about it, can't relate so much.

also in the dream i had stolen a ton of money and had a huge wad of bills tucked into the front of my jacket, but i wasn't at all worried about getting caught. i was just looking into shop windows and thinking, hm, well, i have money to buy interesting things if i want.

i was sort of disapppointed to wake up. life isn't quite so colorful.

i've been having stuff from middle east bakery from time to time, and i think i might like it better than stuff i've had from sultan's market.

― Juulia (julesbdules), Thursday, 27 October 2005 14:50 (twenty years ago)

I was just bitching on the phone to Sarah about how I was really hungry and didn't have any food and had no cash to buy snacks and then as soon as I got off the phone, BLAMMO! CHOCOLATE BIRTHDAY CAKE.

― n/a (Nick A.), Thursday, 27 October 2005 14:52 (twenty years ago)

Haha, Sarah.

Everyone at work is going out for Thai food today because one of our team leads is leaving in a couple of days. I hope there will be cake, but it doesn't seem likely.

― Jordan (Jordan), Thursday, 27 October 2005 14:55 (twenty years ago)

julia, i love practically next door to the middle eastern bakery!

by the way, alice & friends didn't have korean bbq on the menu the last time i was there! it's my favorite!!!! or was . . . the kebabs were great.

― kelsey (kelstarry), Thursday, 27 October 2005 14:57 (twenty years ago)

that's strange...i just had korean bbq takeout from there on tues night!

― Juulia (julesbdules), Thursday, 27 October 2005 15:01 (twenty years ago)

maybe it's back!!!! i went a couple of weekends ago & didn't see it. yayayayayayayayayayayayayay!!!! i love k-bbq!

― kelsey (kelstarry), Thursday, 27 October 2005 15:03 (twenty years ago)

Hey Nick -- you think I could get a ride home with you guys today? It would help me out a lot. I'm nearly out of bus fare.

― Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Thursday, 27 October 2005 15:10 (twenty years ago)

Unfortunately, we're going straight from here to a thing for Sarah's work that's further downtown. Sorry.

― n/a (Nick A.), Thursday, 27 October 2005 15:12 (twenty years ago)

sometimes, it's distressing when this thread isn't at the top and someone isn't saying something emphatic about chocolate cake or cheesy (or not) music or something.

which is why i'd just like to say that i got journey in my head out of nowhere and it reminded me of that episode of scrubs with 'don't stop believing'. which was a funny episode. but i really need to get this out of my head. my brain has a strange soundtrack when not otherwise directed.

― Juulia (julesbdules), Thursday, 27 October 2005 15:28 (twenty years ago)

JOrdan, Jenny just said yes on the sleepover/pj party.

― Jeff-PTTL (Jeff), Thursday, 27 October 2005 15:32 (twenty years ago)

Kenan, we could probably give you a ride home tomorrow...

― n/a (Nick A.), Thursday, 27 October 2005 15:33 (twenty years ago)

I saw that show once, it was pretty good. I liked that it was honest about the fact that yes, the people you know who are in med school and still act like flaky college students sometimes eventually turn into doctors who can still act like flaky college students sometimes!

xpost, awesome.

― Jordan (Jordan), Thursday, 27 October 2005 15:33 (twenty years ago)

do you guys drive into the city daily?

― kelsey (kelstarry), Thursday, 27 October 2005 15:33 (twenty years ago)

Sorry, been gone from here all morn - sure, I'll take a look at the letter - might not get a chance for an hour or two, but I'd be glad to.

I got hazelnut coffee this morning from the strange sushi/coffee/Japanese-candy shop on Clark at Monroe, and I feel all jumpy.

If you like sweetish reds, S., definitely go for shirazes and zinfandels (red, not white). Bonny Doon makes some good easy-to-find ones (including the Big House Red you see everywhere) - they have a trippy website too - www.bonnydoon.com

― Eazy (Eazy), Thursday, 27 October 2005 15:34 (twenty years ago)

Who, us? We drive from our house to Sarah's work, which is at like Chicago and Halsted, and then I walk from Sarah's work to my work.

― n/a (Nick A.), Thursday, 27 October 2005 15:35 (twenty years ago)

There's parking around there?

― jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 27 October 2005 15:36 (twenty years ago)

Btw, I did some work on Jenny's letter and Jordan's liner notes. Now back to my actual copy-editing work.

― jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 27 October 2005 15:36 (twenty years ago)

It's my dad's birthday today. I bet the Sox winning the Series was a great birthday present for him.

― jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 27 October 2005 15:37 (twenty years ago)

Haha, yes, I actually had some real copy-editing work I had to do today after going over Jenny's letter.

― Jordan (Jordan), Thursday, 27 October 2005 15:38 (twenty years ago)

happy birthday, mike!

maybe he'll know i wished him a happy birthday via mark.

― kelsey (kelstarry), Thursday, 27 October 2005 15:39 (twenty years ago)

I got hazelnut coffee this morning from the strange sushi/coffee/Japanese-candy shop on Clark at Monroe, and I feel all jumpy.

This is a half a block from my work, everytime I go in there, they yell at my that they are closed.

― Jeff-PTTL (Jeff), Thursday, 27 October 2005 15:41 (twenty years ago)

Oops, not bonnydoon.com, it's http://www.bonnydoonvineyard.com/

I like the sushi/coffee place, but it feels like the guy who owns it just stocked it with everything he likes, so it's kind of haphazard.

― Eazy (Eazy), Thursday, 27 October 2005 15:41 (twenty years ago)

but it feels like the guy who owns it just stocked it with everything he likes

That's how I feel about Hard Boiled! It's not haphazard, though. Except one time I went in there, and the dude was hacking away at a large block of white cheese behind the counter.

― jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 27 October 2005 15:48 (twenty years ago)

Leaf loves that place.

― kelsey (kelstarry), Thursday, 27 October 2005 15:48 (twenty years ago)

That's because he and Mark both like Four Tet.

― jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 27 October 2005 15:50 (twenty years ago)

Haha:

Some people I know (cough cough, lurker) find Matt Sweeney ridiculously hot.
-- jaymc (jmcunnin...), August 11th, 2004 4:00 PM. (jaymc) (link)

― jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 27 October 2005 16:00 (twenty years ago)

Sarah's work has a parking lot.

― n/a (Nick A.), Thursday, 27 October 2005 16:03 (twenty years ago)

Hard Boiled is awesome. That dude and I have similar taste.

― Jeff-PTTL (Jeff), Thursday, 27 October 2005 16:11 (twenty years ago)

I like Hard Boiled, too. It's right on the way home from work and across the street from where I usually get lunch, so it's easy to rationalize a quick pickup on the way home.

― giboyeux (skowly), Thursday, 27 October 2005 16:13 (twenty years ago)

Where is Hard Boiled?

― Eazy (Eazy), Thursday, 27 October 2005 16:21 (twenty years ago)

I'm so bored with all the food in my work neighborhood -- to the point where I've actually started going to Subway. I wish there was more in walking distance.

― Df'nM (OutDatWay), Thursday, 27 October 2005 16:22 (twenty years ago)

Where is Hard Boiled?

Roscoe Village. Like right across the street from Costello's.

― jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 27 October 2005 16:23 (twenty years ago)

Literati Play of the Day:
I opened with NOME, with the E on the center.

Hoped my opponent wouldn't see what I was trying to do - she didn't - and I did BETTING, with the G landing to make GNOMES, both on a double-word score.

Again, hoped my opponent wouldn't see what I was trying to do - she didn't - and I did BATCH across the top making ABETTING, both on a triple-word score.

― Eazy (Eazy), Thursday, 27 October 2005 17:14 (twenty years ago)

whoa- that's crafty. is literati the same as scrabble? you're allowed to use proper nouns in literati?

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Thursday, 27 October 2005 17:18 (twenty years ago)

It's the Yahoo Games version of Scrabble - very similar. No proper nouns allowed - I'm not sure what nome means, but it means something...

― Eazy (Eazy), Thursday, 27 October 2005 17:29 (twenty years ago)

That was some delicious Thai food.

― Jordan (Jordan), Thursday, 27 October 2005 17:31 (twenty years ago)

I'm not sure what nome means, but it means something...

BOOOOOOO. This is why I don't play Scrabble with certain people.

― jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 27 October 2005 17:34 (twenty years ago)

we should play literati, eazy! i posted to the thread yesterday, then got distracted by phone and aim and stood chaki up, i felt bad.

― Juulia (julesbdules), Thursday, 27 October 2005 17:43 (twenty years ago)

jaymc OTM. i think people should have to define the words, if they're challenged.

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Thursday, 27 October 2005 17:48 (twenty years ago)

although i looked up "nome" and it does actually mean something. "A province of Pharaonic, Hellenistic, and Roman Egypt.

A nomarchy. "

nomarchy?

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Thursday, 27 October 2005 17:50 (twenty years ago)

Even if you CAN define it, I don't like people playing words that are like, "Oh yeah, that's a small shrub native to the Arabian peninsula." Fuck you, you only know that word because you memorized all the three-letter words in your Scrabble dictionary. Fuck off.

― jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 27 October 2005 17:53 (twenty years ago)

So you don't want to know that aa is a volcanic rock...?

― Eazy (Eazy), Thursday, 27 October 2005 17:56 (twenty years ago)

Julia - I'm going to work a bit now, but want to play a game at 3?

― Eazy (Eazy), Thursday, 27 October 2005 17:56 (twenty years ago)

So you don't want to know that aa is a volcanic rock...?

NO.

I only play words that I would ACTUALLY USE IN REAL LIFE.

― jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 27 October 2005 17:57 (twenty years ago)

I mean, otherwise you end up like those Korean guys who are Scrabble champions without comprehending a lick of English, because they basically treat it as a math puzzle, and where's the fun in that?

― jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 27 October 2005 17:58 (twenty years ago)

I've used "aa" in real life.

― kelsey (kelstarry), Thursday, 27 October 2005 18:00 (twenty years ago)

Words I've used from real life in Scrabble/Literati: LIMN, URTEXT, EULOGY, BEEHIVE.

― Eazy (Eazy), Thursday, 27 October 2005 18:00 (twenty years ago)

That dress is so hot it makes you look like a hunk of aa.

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Thursday, 27 October 2005 18:01 (twenty years ago)

(xp) And those are all totally fine.

Kelsey, you have not, don't lie.

― jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 27 October 2005 18:01 (twenty years ago)

Jaymc, you're being a total aa-hole.

― n/a (Nick A.), Thursday, 27 October 2005 18:02 (twenty years ago)

john, where did you say that thing about matt sweeney?!

p.s. i almost wrote him a dopey fan letter today.

xpost: YES I HAVE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! MY BRO LIVES IN HAWAII & WE WENT TO A NATIONAL PARK & I USED THE WORD THERE!!!

― kelsey (kelstarry), Thursday, 27 October 2005 18:03 (twenty years ago)

haha! i agree with you, nick!

― kelsey (kelstarry), Thursday, 27 October 2005 18:03 (twenty years ago)

Kelsey, I don't remember ... I was searching for something earlier, and it came up.

― jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 27 October 2005 18:05 (twenty years ago)

Hey, Julia and I can tell you what 'room' we're in when we play and you all can kibbitz if you like, as long as you've got a yahoo account.

― Eazy (Eazy), Thursday, 27 October 2005 18:06 (twenty years ago)

('play' meaning LITERATI, of course)

― Eazy (Eazy), Thursday, 27 October 2005 18:18 (twenty years ago)

i just realized that i'm just about to LEAVE for the day! ha! 24 more minutes.

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Thursday, 27 October 2005 18:21 (twenty years ago)

I just got resized for a my wedding ring. Since I got married my ring size went from a 10 to an 8.5.

I also just posted a lost and found on craigslist. Maybe I'll get a backup!

― Jeff-PTTL (Jeff), Thursday, 27 October 2005 18:32 (twenty years ago)

I'm kind of looking forward to getting a COOL wedding ring (wedding rings can be cool, right?).

Dare I eat a cookie? I'm not hungry, I just want a cookie from the sub shop.

― Jordan (Jordan), Thursday, 27 October 2005 18:36 (twenty years ago)

What would be less unhealthy, eating a big cookie that's freshly made or a smaller item from the vending machine that no doubt contains all sorts of preservatives and chemicals?

― Jordan (Jordan), Thursday, 27 October 2005 18:46 (twenty years ago)

eazy: i'm in intermediate/scholarship as jbdules.

i vote big cookie.

― Juulia (julesbdules), Thursday, 27 October 2005 18:59 (twenty years ago)

HI DERE CAN I COME HANG OUT IN LITERATI RHEUM

― I do feel guilty for getting any perverse amusement out of it (Rock Hardy), Thursday, 27 October 2005 19:02 (twenty years ago)

BIG FRESH COOKIE, Jordan. BIG FRESH.

Jeff...damn! That's awesome! a 10 to an 8.5 is no small feat!

― kelsey (kelstarry), Thursday, 27 October 2005 19:08 (twenty years ago)

we're in intermediate/scholarship/table 1

― Eazy (Eazy), Thursday, 27 October 2005 19:09 (twenty years ago)

But if you get the smaller one, won't it come in a package of multiple smaller ones?

Anyway, I vote big and fresh too.

― Kittens Licking Cakes (coco), Thursday, 27 October 2005 19:09 (twenty years ago)

Sarah - stop by the Literati room!

― Eazy (Eazy), Thursday, 27 October 2005 19:10 (twenty years ago)

Opening moves - william does WELDERS; I do VOWEL; Julia makes VOWELS and SIXTIES.

― Eazy (Eazy), Thursday, 27 October 2005 19:12 (twenty years ago)

I am eating - wait, ate - the big cookie. I regret nothing.

― Jordan (Jordan), Thursday, 27 October 2005 19:15 (twenty years ago)

way to LIVE THE GOOD LIFE!!

― kelsey (kelstarry), Thursday, 27 October 2005 19:18 (twenty years ago)

Hmmm, my iPod seems to be working again, but I'm not sure it's able to update. I was planning on just buying a new one after work today, but I guess I'll put that off...

― jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 27 October 2005 19:30 (twenty years ago)

John, you'll be glad to know that the board was full of familiar words, except for xi.

― Eazy (Eazy), Thursday, 27 October 2005 19:34 (twenty years ago)

Xi? Like chi?

― jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 27 October 2005 19:35 (twenty years ago)

Oh wait, no I'm thinking of qi.

― jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 27 October 2005 19:36 (twenty years ago)

Hey, I just thought of the perfect Halloween-costume-that-isn't-really-a-costume! Come to the party and see it in action.

― n/a (Nick A.), Thursday, 27 October 2005 19:50 (twenty years ago)

Are you also wearing said costume RIGHT NOW?!?!

― kelsey (kelstarry), Thursday, 27 October 2005 19:52 (twenty years ago)

One of my friends is hosting a party, he's going as goatse. I'm a little scared.
Hi everyone! I have a huge project that just came in so if you see me around here I'm crashing the party. And I need to get some applications in for the FAFSA people. Hopefully I'll be back more in a few weeks.
I have used aa too! But it was in geology class, so it doesn't count.
Here's another geology one-oolitic.
I feel like I have more friends now that I have some more flickr contacts.

― jocelyn (Jocelyn), Thursday, 27 October 2005 19:52 (twenty years ago)

Well, it's a costume, but it's not really a costume in that it's going to be made up of items that I actually wear on a regular basis.
I've said too much.

― n/a (Nick A.), Thursday, 27 October 2005 19:57 (twenty years ago)

BUCKETHEAD. You know you want to.

― jocelyn (Jocelyn), Thursday, 27 October 2005 19:59 (twenty years ago)

Business Casual Man?

― Jordan (Jordan), Thursday, 27 October 2005 20:01 (twenty years ago)

Clark Kent?

― jocelyn (Jocelyn), Thursday, 27 October 2005 20:09 (twenty years ago)

Naked Man with Tie?

― kelsey (kelstarry), Thursday, 27 October 2005 20:18 (twenty years ago)

It's not that kind of party.

― jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 27 October 2005 20:20 (twenty years ago)

Depends on the length of the tie. And the length of the...

― n/a (Nick A.), Thursday, 27 October 2005 20:23 (twenty years ago)

― n/a (Nick A.), Thursday, 27 October 2005 20:24 (twenty years ago)

!!!

― n/a (Nick A.), Thursday, 27 October 2005 20:24 (twenty years ago)

A nudist?

― Kittens Licking Cakes (coco), Thursday, 27 October 2005 20:24 (twenty years ago)

http://www.warprecords.com/media/img/WARP21%20FOR%20WEBSITE.jpg

― jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 27 October 2005 20:31 (twenty years ago)

http://static.flickr.com/29/48985696_5eea7846fc.jpg?v=0

― Jordan (Jordan), Thursday, 27 October 2005 20:34 (twenty years ago)

Sorry I had to bail out after one game, Julia -- I just now got off the phone! The only thing worse than stranded bingos are 90 minute phone calls.

― I do feel guilty for getting any perverse amusement out of it (Rock Hardy), Thursday, 27 October 2005 20:41 (twenty years ago)

I just ordered a digital camera from Amazon.

― jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 27 October 2005 20:55 (twenty years ago)

(Partially inspired by all of your Flickr accounts.)

― jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 27 October 2005 20:55 (twenty years ago)

Ooh. Whadya get?

― Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Thursday, 27 October 2005 21:07 (twenty years ago)

The exact one you recommended to me: Canon PowerShot A520. (If I had to spend time comparison-shopping, I'd never have bought anything.)

― jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 27 October 2005 21:18 (twenty years ago)

I'm off work tomorrow - but tune in to WLUW at 1 p.m. -- playing live with saxophone!

― Eazy (Eazy), Thursday, 27 October 2005 21:26 (twenty years ago)

I just downloaded "Peg" by Steely Dan, and I recognize part of it, but not from where you might think (radio, mom playing record, etc.). I will grant a prize to the first person who names the embarassingly typically indie kid source where I recognize this song from.

― n/a (Nick A.), Thursday, 27 October 2005 23:59 (twenty years ago)

John, I simply MUST visit you if this is what a typical thursday night is like.

― Alfred Soto (Alfred Soto), Friday, 28 October 2005 00:06 (twenty years ago)

― jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 28 October 2005 00:07 (twenty years ago)

Nick: De La Soul's "Eye Know."

― jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 28 October 2005 00:08 (twenty years ago)

A 300-post thread about shit.

― Alfred Soto (Alfred Soto), Friday, 28 October 2005 00:10 (twenty years ago)

That's not a typical Thursday night, that's a typical Thursday workday.

― jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 28 October 2005 00:12 (twenty years ago)

That's "jack" shit.

― Eazy (Eazy), Friday, 28 October 2005 00:15 (twenty years ago)

I mean ... I'm not sure what your point is, Alfred. The Chicago thread is structured more like a chatroom, for all of us who live in Chicago (most of whom have met IRL) to just blather about stuff throughout the workday, to stave off boredom. It doesn't really pretend to be anything more than that.

― jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 28 October 2005 00:20 (twenty years ago)

I'm playing Literati! Or at least trying to, the java is being sloooow.

― Jordan (Jordan), Friday, 28 October 2005 00:21 (twenty years ago)

Yes, John! I'm such a dork. But I like these SD songs I've downloaded so far a lot, they're great!

― n/a (Nick A.), Friday, 28 October 2005 00:22 (twenty years ago)

Actually, I heard the De La Soul song after the Steely Dan song, so my first impression upon hearing "Eye Know" was, "wow, Arrested Development really ripped them off on 'Mr. Wendal,' huh?"

― jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 28 October 2005 00:23 (twenty years ago)

Jordan, what room are you in? Maybe I'll join you...

― jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 28 October 2005 00:24 (twenty years ago)

jaymc are you on AIM? I am "baggadix" but I think maybe we determined before that your chat thing doesn't work with mine.

― n/a (Nick A.), Friday, 28 October 2005 00:34 (twenty years ago)

Hmmm. I don't know why it wouldn't. I just added you.

― jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 28 October 2005 00:36 (twenty years ago)

I'm "sanjaymcd"

― jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 28 October 2005 00:37 (twenty years ago)

I'm saying it's GREAT. I wish Miami had a thread like this!

― Alfred Soto (Alfred Soto), Friday, 28 October 2005 00:38 (twenty years ago)

Haha. I really thought you were being belligerent ... wait, you aren't, are you?

― jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 28 October 2005 00:40 (twenty years ago)

There aren't any other ILXors in Miami, are there?

― jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 28 October 2005 00:41 (twenty years ago)

Only Boston, Chicago, Texas, Warsaw, and Japan can have threads with corresponding album cover art -- and Warsaw only made a 45" before turning into Joy Division.

― Eazy (Eazy), Friday, 28 October 2005 00:47 (twenty years ago)

I'm going to go around the corner and get a burrito and read the Reader and procrastinate packing up my apartment just a little more.

― Eazy (Eazy), Friday, 28 October 2005 00:50 (twenty years ago)

Kansas?

― jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 28 October 2005 00:56 (twenty years ago)

I'm in, uh, Social Lounge 30. That was an exciting game! I was getting trounced then took the lead at around 122 points, and then lost in the end.

― Jordan (Jordan), Friday, 28 October 2005 01:11 (twenty years ago)

Haha, I just "beat" jaymc.

― Jordan (Jordan), Friday, 28 October 2005 01:52 (twenty years ago)

http://image.allmusic.com/00/amg/cov200/drg300/g396/g39610twjlu.jpg

― Sundar (sundar), Friday, 28 October 2005 02:00 (twenty years ago)

Someday, you know, we WILL run out of Chicago album covers. May I suggest we start in on Eno when that happens?

― Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Friday, 28 October 2005 02:16 (twenty years ago)

http://eil.com/newgallery/Brian-Eno-Taking-Tiger-Moun-211309.jpg

― Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Friday, 28 October 2005 02:16 (twenty years ago)

(Just because that's what I'm listening to. No real reason.)

― Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Friday, 28 October 2005 02:18 (twenty years ago)

And he's got, what, 20 or so of 'em? I say yea to Eno covers next.

― Eazy (Eazy), Friday, 28 October 2005 02:37 (twenty years ago)

You could go for Miles Davis and be set for years to come.

― Jordan (Jordan), Friday, 28 October 2005 02:51 (twenty years ago)

There aren't any other ILXors in Miami, are there?

If there aren't, I call them from the wind, rain, and stars to join me.

― Alfred Soto (Alfred Soto), Friday, 28 October 2005 03:03 (twenty years ago)

Hey! There's gonna be a ticker tape parade going right outside of my building today for DA SOX! That's gonna be fun. Nothing like scraps of paper fluttering in the air to create a sense of excitement!

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Friday, 28 October 2005 12:55 (twenty years ago)

What time is that occuring? (And is it going to prevent me from getting home?)

― Df'nM (OutDatWay), Friday, 28 October 2005 12:57 (twenty years ago)

White Sox Celebration!

WHEN: FRIDAY, OCTOBER 28, 2005
11:00 A.M.

WHAT: Rolling Motorcade - 11:00 a.m.
Route: From U.S. Cellular Field winding through the neighborhoods.

Ticker Tape Parade – 12:00 p.m.
Route: LaSalle and Jackson to Wacker Drive

Victory Rally – 12:30 p.m.
Wacker and LaSalle

The festivities will kick off with a rolling motorcade of Double
Decker buses, carrying the World Champion Chicago White Sox, which
will begin at U.S. Cellular Field and wind through the neighborhoods.
PLEASE NOTE: Players will not be available for interviews during these
events.

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Friday, 28 October 2005 13:03 (twenty years ago)

Ah, good.

― Df'nM (OutDatWay), Friday, 28 October 2005 13:06 (twenty years ago)

I mean, I'm glad they won and all, but it's Friday and I'm already feeling the need to get out of here.

― Df'nM (OutDatWay), Friday, 28 October 2005 13:06 (twenty years ago)

Dudes, it's definitely ON for N & S's party tomorrow.

― Jordan (Jordan), Friday, 28 October 2005 13:12 (twenty years ago)

Woohoo! I still don't have a costume.

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Friday, 28 October 2005 13:15 (twenty years ago)

Neither do I. I may wear a C4n4st4 shirt and go as jamyc.

― Jordan (Jordan), Friday, 28 October 2005 13:19 (twenty years ago)

God, I just remembered that I had a nightmare that I had a tooth with a hole in it! Right at the top, near the gums. EW! It was really gross and painful!

Could I please have a week off of work so I can get a million other things done? Thanksbye.

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Friday, 28 October 2005 13:24 (twenty years ago)

Thank you all so much for your help with my application/cover letter! Wow! I feel much more confident about this now. Thank you thank you!!

― pullapartgirl (pullapartgirl), Friday, 28 October 2005 13:26 (twenty years ago)

My relatives want to take a riverboat architectural tour of Chicago, which sounds pretty cool, but isn't going to be freaking cold?

― Jordan (Jordan), Friday, 28 October 2005 13:37 (twenty years ago)

Saturday, Oct 29
A full day of sunshine. Winds from the SSW at 9 mph. High: 64° F

Sunday, Oct 30
Sunshine mixing with some clouds. Winds from the SSW at 10 mph. High: 65° F

It will probably be chilly on the boat, but not insufferably so. I want to go on one of those architectural tours, too!

― pullapartgirl (pullapartgirl), Friday, 28 October 2005 13:50 (twenty years ago)

That's not bad at all.

I'm got the new Daniel Lanois album last night. It's like an ambient Sergio Leone soundtrack, great for chillin'.

― Jordan (Jordan), Friday, 28 October 2005 14:02 (twenty years ago)

Does anyone else have the problem when they're tired that their brain just keeps playing the same song over and over again? Usually for me, it's when I first wake up and I'm taking my shower, I realize that I have some song in my head and it's just repeating over and over, sometimes just like a verse or a chorus, over and over. It typically stops once I get some coffee and wake up. But today I'm still tired and I have "Peg" and "Any Major Dude Will Tell You" on repeat in my brain and I can't shake them and it's irritating.

I would be up for some Literati today if anyone cares to challenge me. I've only played once before, so I'm still pretty new, but you wouldn't have to go easy on me.

― n/a (Nick A.), Friday, 28 October 2005 14:07 (twenty years ago)

Victory Rally – 12:30 p.m.
Wacker and LaSalle

That's a block away from me. Perhaps I'll go.

― jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 28 October 2005 14:08 (twenty years ago)

I might be up for it if I can sneak it at work.

(Nick, could you e-mail me with your address? I'm mapquesting my Chicago routes for tomorrow.)

― Jordan (Jordan), Friday, 28 October 2005 14:09 (twenty years ago)

Making the margins of a document wider than the standard measure to fit everything on the appropriate number of pages: C or D?

― pullapartgirl (pullapartgirl), Friday, 28 October 2005 14:17 (twenty years ago)

Classic. Go for it.

I'm trying to figure out who my new landlord looks like. I keep thinking Jerry Orbach, but that's not quite right. (The Internet tells me the landlord graduated from high school in 1954.)

― jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 28 October 2005 14:19 (twenty years ago)

(Or, Jenny, you could reduce the font size?)

― jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 28 October 2005 14:22 (twenty years ago)

Right now, I'm chosing the "use less words to say the same thing" approach, but if that plus the margin reduction doesn't work, the font size is getting REDUCED.

― pullapartgirl (pullapartgirl), Friday, 28 October 2005 14:28 (twenty years ago)

John, you're googling your new landlord? ha ha

My head hurts. I think it's a million degrees in this office.

― Kittens Licking Cakes (coco), Friday, 28 October 2005 14:30 (twenty years ago)

Of course I'm googling him -- I have to know if he's another minor television celebrity. (He's not.) (He does own a violin, though.)

― jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 28 October 2005 14:48 (twenty years ago)

Alright, literati anyone?

― Jordan (Jordan), Friday, 28 October 2005 14:55 (twenty years ago)

YES YES YES PLEEZE

― n/a (Nick A.), Friday, 28 October 2005 14:56 (twenty years ago)

Ooh! Me too! What room?

― Kittens Licking Cakes (coco), Friday, 28 October 2005 14:57 (twenty years ago)

I am in Social Lounge 19.

― n/a (Nick A.), Friday, 28 October 2005 14:58 (twenty years ago)

Okay I am in "social lounge 15", user name crunkbeatz.

― Jordan (Jordan), Friday, 28 October 2005 14:58 (twenty years ago)

Whoopsies, I will go to 15 then.

― n/a (Nick A.), Friday, 28 October 2005 14:59 (twenty years ago)

now jordan is in 19 with me, nick!

― Kittens Licking Cakes (coco), Friday, 28 October 2005 15:00 (twenty years ago)

ok, we cool

― Kittens Licking Cakes (coco), Friday, 28 October 2005 15:04 (twenty years ago)

people, there's a ton of fanfare about to occur on the streets of chicago!

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Friday, 28 October 2005 15:05 (twenty years ago)

Is this Literati on Yahoo Games?

― Df'nM (OutDatWay), Friday, 28 October 2005 15:05 (twenty years ago)

Everyone is going to be playing Literati now. :(

― jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 28 October 2005 15:09 (twenty years ago)

NOT ME -- I'm attempting to defuse my dismal mood by engaging in some civic pride-related activities.

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Friday, 28 October 2005 15:10 (twenty years ago)

OK. I'll go back to laser.narr.as

― Df'nM (OutDatWay), Friday, 28 October 2005 15:11 (twenty years ago)

I'm going to miss the parade. My lunch isn't till 1.

― Jeff-PTTL (Jeff), Friday, 28 October 2005 15:14 (twenty years ago)

Nick and John, I have tried to add you as contacts for internet instant messaging using every service available and I always fail and I don't understand why. Would you (and anyone else who engages in internet instant messaging) add me as a contact? Thank you.

AIM and Yahoo: frograbbitmonkey
MSN: rabbitrabbit@gmail

― pullapartgirl (pullapartgirl), Friday, 28 October 2005 15:35 (twenty years ago)

okey dokey, I will when I'm at home

― n/a (Nick A.), Friday, 28 October 2005 15:36 (twenty years ago)

I will do so, yes.

― jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 28 October 2005 15:38 (twenty years ago)

Oh, and would you mind sending that evite to Maddie (madolan at gmail)? Thx.

― Jordan (Jordan), Friday, 28 October 2005 15:41 (twenty years ago)

My AIM is fugexlac if anyone cares.

― Df'nM (OutDatWay), Friday, 28 October 2005 15:42 (twenty years ago)

Sample the cat is doing my favorite thing she does, which is just sit in my lap and recline against me. Occasionally she looks up and sniffs my chin or bumps my mouth with her head (because when she sits like this I occasionally lean down and give her a smooch on the head) and it is like the cutest cat thing EVER.

― pullapartgirl (pullapartgirl), Friday, 28 October 2005 15:57 (twenty years ago)

Cat nudges are the best thing ever.

― jocelyn (Jocelyn), Friday, 28 October 2005 16:02 (twenty years ago)

One of my cats is a Wesley Willis-style headbutter.

― Jordan (Jordan), Friday, 28 October 2005 16:11 (twenty years ago)

I AM DER LITERATI WINNER!

― n/a (Nick A.), Friday, 28 October 2005 16:18 (twenty years ago)

vs. Jordan and Sarah, I doubt I could beat Julia or Eric

― n/a (Nick A.), Friday, 28 October 2005 16:18 (twenty years ago)

Oh lordy I am hungry

― n/a (Nick A.), Friday, 28 October 2005 16:18 (twenty years ago)

Kenan, it looks like Sarah's going home sick today, so unless she feels well enough later to come pick us up after work, it doesn't look like you're going to get a ride home today after all. Sorry, dude. :(

― n/a (Nick A.), Friday, 28 October 2005 16:30 (twenty years ago)

o, how i loathe processed meats. unless they're hamburgers or bratwurst. or certain kinds of sausage. but the sort of stuff presented on bread as edible for sandwiches can be really really appalling.

― Juulia (julesbdules), Friday, 28 October 2005 16:51 (twenty years ago)

OMG I love humans and baseball and the White Sox and CHICAGO! My faith in humanity has been restored. I saw a kickass marching band, I cried three times and I am now the proud owner of a white sock stuffed with shredded newspaper. Today is better than I thought it would be, that's for sure.

IF YOU CAN, YOU MUST SEE THIS!! It was really fun.

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Friday, 28 October 2005 16:57 (twenty years ago)

My work had a "chili fest" social today. I just drank three beers while on the clock.

― Df'nM (OutDatWay), Friday, 28 October 2005 17:09 (twenty years ago)

I never realized how many cute girls work here, either.

― Df'nM (OutDatWay), Friday, 28 October 2005 17:09 (twenty years ago)

I went outside and was basically just mobbed by the crowd, and I couldn't see anything. GO SOX!

― jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 28 October 2005 17:12 (twenty years ago)

There are like seven helicopters over my work right now.

― n/a (Nick A.), Friday, 28 October 2005 17:13 (twenty years ago)

Now I just hear periodic roars from the crowd while sitting in my cubicle, which is distracting.

― jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 28 October 2005 17:16 (twenty years ago)

I told you! It's outta control! Man, that was really fun. I screamed, even.

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Friday, 28 October 2005 17:17 (twenty years ago)

Now I'm worried Sarah will be too sick-feeling to record tonight. :(

― n/a (Nick A.), Friday, 28 October 2005 17:24 (twenty years ago)

Anyone up for more literati? I want to play julia at some point.

― n/a (Nick A.), Friday, 28 October 2005 17:31 (twenty years ago)

I'll try another game this afternoon.

― Jordan (Jordan), Friday, 28 October 2005 17:32 (twenty years ago)

I can just see this is the direction that the Chicago thread is going. I'm making my peace with it.

― jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 28 October 2005 17:33 (twenty years ago)

Well, I don't see you making any sparkling conversation, and I'm bored!

― n/a (Nick A.), Friday, 28 October 2005 17:34 (twenty years ago)

What, wasting even MORE time at work via games?

― Jordan (Jordan), Friday, 28 October 2005 17:35 (twenty years ago)

i could play, nick...

i have an arrested development disc in the mail today, booooyah.

― Juulia (julesbdules), Friday, 28 October 2005 17:35 (twenty years ago)

Poor Sarah! I hope she feels better.

A bunch of women who sit in front of me have confetti in their hair. Ha! I missed everything by being too damn slow to get out of the house in time. Alas!

― pullapartgirl (pullapartgirl), Friday, 28 October 2005 17:36 (twenty years ago)

Things my friend has to say about Chicago:

1) They play too much literati.

2) They yell too loudly about baseball.

3) They stay home sick.

4) ???

― Jordan (Jordan), Friday, 28 October 2005 17:36 (twenty years ago)

Cam?

― jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 28 October 2005 17:37 (twenty years ago)

Oh wait, you're parodying the other thread.

― jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 28 October 2005 17:37 (twenty years ago)

I can just see this is the direction that the Chicago thread is going. I'm making my peace with it.
I'm quiet today because 1) i'm a more than a little depressed and 2) i have so many things to do that i'm full of nothing but pure dread. The parade helped a little, but only temporarily.

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Friday, 28 October 2005 17:37 (twenty years ago)

Haha, no. This is my imaginary friend. She has a huge rack.

― Jordan (Jordan), Friday, 28 October 2005 17:37 (twenty years ago)

OK I'm in the "Vernacular" room if anyone wants to play. I'm naamme.

― n/a (Nick A.), Friday, 28 October 2005 17:39 (twenty years ago)

Hmmm, I'm feeling anxious all of a sudden and am not sure why.

― jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 28 October 2005 17:39 (twenty years ago)

http://hometown.aol.com/rgille1915/images/spice%20rack.jpg

― pullapartgirl (pullapartgirl), Friday, 28 October 2005 17:39 (twenty years ago)

i wish i had a rack like that.

i've felt full of anxiety ALL DAY.

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Friday, 28 October 2005 17:40 (twenty years ago)

I hate days like that. In an evil plot twist, I feel much less anxious about school than I did last week, but am now worried that I'm not feeling anxious enough.

― pullapartgirl (pullapartgirl), Friday, 28 October 2005 17:42 (twenty years ago)

That was me last week...and poof! Plenty of anxiety today. PLENTY.

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Friday, 28 October 2005 17:42 (twenty years ago)

I'm drinking a pumpkin spice latte. Yes.

― pullapartgirl (pullapartgirl), Friday, 28 October 2005 17:43 (twenty years ago)

I need to see a doctor -- that always makes me anxious.

― jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 28 October 2005 17:43 (twenty years ago)

Hey, Literati isn't letting me in, it's saying I need to clean my cache or something like that. I tried deleting my cookies and restarting Explorer, but it's still not working. WTF? :(

― n/a (Nick A.), Friday, 28 October 2005 17:43 (twenty years ago)

I wish I was hungry because I would have gotten a pumpkin scone, too, and pumpkined myself into oblivion.

John - I hope everything is okay. Jeff has a good doc he might recommend if you want.

― pullapartgirl (pullapartgirl), Friday, 28 October 2005 17:47 (twenty years ago)

I have a doctor, I've only seen her once, though. It's nothing serious, just something I'd like to get taken care of sooner than later.

― jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 28 October 2005 17:49 (twenty years ago)

Oh Nick, I'm getting the same thing, I'm glad it's not just me.

I tried restarting my browser and cleared out all my stuff. Now I can't see what ILX threads I've been reading, oh no!

― Jordan (Jordan), Friday, 28 October 2005 17:50 (twenty years ago)

Oh ok so it's yahoo games that's fucked up. LOOKS LIKE THE CHICAGO THREAD WILL LIVE ON...

― n/a (Nick A.), Friday, 28 October 2005 17:52 (twenty years ago)

Yahoo Literati crashed my Firefox. :(

― Df'nM (OutDatWay), Friday, 28 October 2005 17:55 (twenty years ago)

My building sounds like it's under attack. Cripes.

― jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 28 October 2005 17:57 (twenty years ago)

Oh yeah, I don't think Literati is Firefox-friendly.

― jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 28 October 2005 17:57 (twenty years ago)

Booo!

― pullapartgirl (pullapartgirl), Friday, 28 October 2005 18:00 (twenty years ago)

Assuming Mark doesn't mind me posting this pic here, I thought this made for a nice dyptich:

http://myspace-878.vo.llnwd.net/00238/87/85/238895878_m.jpg http://photos.friendster.com/photos/00/98/328900/17236317813317l.jpg

― jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 28 October 2005 18:04 (twenty years ago)

I just received a letter in the mail that told me that I had been transferred to yet another doctor because my doctor had "left the network." That makes 1) the very nice young lady doctor who i miss because she ruled 2) the OLD OLD OLD creepy man doctor 3) the doctor i was transferred to and never saw and 4) this new guy.

jeez.

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Friday, 28 October 2005 18:06 (twenty years ago)

those photos are adorable. you two have such different teeth!

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Friday, 28 October 2005 18:07 (twenty years ago)

I hate modern US health insurance business practices.

The C. Bros are BADASS!

Quote from my evidence professor:

Are there black people in Dubuque?

(pause while nobody in a class of 100 responds.)

See? Nobody knows!

― pullapartgirl (pullapartgirl), Friday, 28 October 2005 18:11 (twenty years ago)

According to the Sun-Times, in 2000 .15% of the population in East Dubuque was black.

― Jordan (Jordan), Friday, 28 October 2005 18:19 (twenty years ago)

We're done with cross-racial identification and on to judicial notice of scientific methods. Where were you fifteen minutes ago?

― pullapartgirl (pullapartgirl), Friday, 28 October 2005 18:28 (twenty years ago)

I don't understand why all the other yahoo games except literati are working...soooo booooored.

― n/a (Nick A.), Friday, 28 October 2005 18:52 (twenty years ago)

I don't think I can make it to the party tomorrow. :(

But, if anyone is bored tonight, I want to drink beerz.

― Df'nM (OutDatWay), Friday, 28 October 2005 18:52 (twenty years ago)

i'm bored too, bored and anxious.

my candy consumption is skyrocketing.

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Friday, 28 October 2005 18:53 (twenty years ago)

Nick: try this - http://laser.narr.as - I was playing it earlier, it's good. You need a Flash-enabled browser, though.

― Df'nM (OutDatWay), Friday, 28 October 2005 18:55 (twenty years ago)

Want to play Settlers of Catan, Nick?

― Jordan (Jordan), Friday, 28 October 2005 18:56 (twenty years ago)

Nevermind, I can't seem to find a working server (haven't played it in around a year).

― Jordan (Jordan), Friday, 28 October 2005 18:59 (twenty years ago)

you should try the pixie pit for scrabble!

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Friday, 28 October 2005 18:59 (twenty years ago)

cease and desist, jaymc.

― robots in love (robotsinlove), Friday, 28 October 2005 19:00 (twenty years ago)

ha - turns out i have a scar from getting punched! i wonder if anyone i haven't seen in a while will notice.

― robots in love (robotsinlove), Friday, 28 October 2005 19:01 (twenty years ago)

Watch out - Literati can be like crack cocaine after a few hits.

Beautiful beautiful day out.

― Eazy (Eazy), Friday, 28 October 2005 19:02 (twenty years ago)

jordan--http://catan.jsettlers.org/index.html has been working for me.

― Juulia (julesbdules), Friday, 28 October 2005 19:04 (twenty years ago)

The scar that's in the pic, Mark?

― jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 28 October 2005 19:05 (twenty years ago)

Hmm, I can't get the applet/player to work, Julia.

― Jordan (Jordan), Friday, 28 October 2005 19:08 (twenty years ago)

OK, I'm up for one game of Lit if anyone's around and up.

― Eazy (Eazy), Friday, 28 October 2005 19:10 (twenty years ago)

Argh I want to play but it's not letting me.

― n/a (Nick A.), Friday, 28 October 2005 19:11 (twenty years ago)

(Amanda: check yr email pleeze)

― n/a (Nick A.), Friday, 28 October 2005 19:11 (twenty years ago)

Oh (and I know y'all have been saying this), Lit's down. Alas!

― Eazy (Eazy), Friday, 28 October 2005 19:11 (twenty years ago)

Settlers! Oh man. I can't start in with that

― giboyeux (skowly), Friday, 28 October 2005 19:11 (twenty years ago)

people, you can play scrabble here: http://www.thepixiepit.co.uk/scrabble/

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Friday, 28 October 2005 19:14 (twenty years ago)

I think the universe is telling me I should get some more work done on this Friday afternoon.

― Jordan (Jordan), Friday, 28 October 2005 19:16 (twenty years ago)

WHO WANTS TO PLAY ME IN SCRABBLE?

― n/a (Nick A.), Friday, 28 October 2005 19:20 (twenty years ago)

For you zombie fans out there

― jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 28 October 2005 19:22 (twenty years ago)

Actually that Scrabble thing looks complicated, nevermind.

― n/a (Nick A.), Friday, 28 October 2005 19:26 (twenty years ago)

There are a lot of groaners in there. I laughed at this, though:

Prince

Eats people door-to-door.

― Jordan (Jordan), Friday, 28 October 2005 19:26 (twenty years ago)

I'm getting really sick of signing up for accounts for stuff on the internet.

― Jordan (Jordan), Friday, 28 October 2005 19:27 (twenty years ago)

I kind of want to see this new Atom Egoyan movie. It sounds intriguing, and it's UNRATED!

― n/a (Nick A.), Friday, 28 October 2005 19:51 (twenty years ago)

"Where the Truth Lies" is the name of the movie, BTW.

― n/a (Nick A.), Friday, 28 October 2005 19:52 (twenty years ago)

I want to see it, too. Allison Lohman is pretty. Is it out already?

― jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 28 October 2005 19:53 (twenty years ago)

Alison Lohman is pretty.
-- jaymc (jmcunnin...), May 18th, 2005.

― jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 28 October 2005 19:54 (twenty years ago)

Know what movie makes me want to cut my throat? That one with Diane Keaton and her BIG CRAZY FAMILY. Bleecch.

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Friday, 28 October 2005 19:55 (twenty years ago)

I don't know who she is. It opens today.

― n/a (Nick A.), Friday, 28 October 2005 19:55 (twenty years ago)

Hey, how early would be too early to come to the party tomorrow?

― Jordan (Jordan), Friday, 28 October 2005 19:55 (twenty years ago)

She is pretty:

http://www.eng.uwaterloo.ca/~sdkuehn/photos/alison.jpg

― n/a (Nick A.), Friday, 28 October 2005 19:57 (twenty years ago)

Yeah, I agree The Family Stone looks awful.

I just realized that I said "Lohman is pretty" twice in six months because that's the best word to describe her. She's not cute, she's not hot, she's pretty.

She's the lead in Where the Truth Lies. I think I first saw her in Big Fish as Ewan McGregor's love interest.

― jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 28 October 2005 19:57 (twenty years ago)

Just come over whenever you want Jordan, just don't expect the place to be totally spotless yet if you get there early. Just call before you come to make sure we're home.

― n/a (Nick A.), Friday, 28 October 2005 19:58 (twenty years ago)

She was also in that movie that I never saw with NIcholas Cage where she plays a 14-year-old. Matchstick Men?

― jocelyn (Jocelyn), Friday, 28 October 2005 19:58 (twenty years ago)

she looks like radha mitchell. isn't that her name? the one from high art?

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Friday, 28 October 2005 19:59 (twenty years ago)

Also, it's stupid that it's called The Family Stone. If not for Sly, they'd just be calling it The Stone Family -- which they should be, anyway, because I highly doubt there's any connection, however tenuous, to the legendary funk band.

― jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 28 October 2005 19:59 (twenty years ago)

I bet there will be singing into hairbrushes in that movie.

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Friday, 28 October 2005 19:59 (twenty years ago)

Okay, cool. I don't know how our day will play out exactly, but I'm taking Maddie to dinner at Heaven on Seven and then we have no plans until teh party.

― Jordan (Jordan), Friday, 28 October 2005 20:01 (twenty years ago)

she looks like radha mitchell. isn't that her name? the one from high art?

Oooh yes. Both of them, along with Naomi Watts and Reese Witherspoon, buck my usual preference for brunettes.

― jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 28 October 2005 20:01 (twenty years ago)

Just got up from a nap. Rahda Mitchell's a good actress.

― Eazy (Eazy), Friday, 28 October 2005 20:01 (twenty years ago)

Oh I didn't see Big Fish but I did see Matchstick Men.

― n/a (Nick A.), Friday, 28 October 2005 20:02 (twenty years ago)

Let's just talk about pretty girls for the next hour.

― n/a (Nick A.), Friday, 28 October 2005 20:02 (twenty years ago)

I don't find Naomi Watts especially attractive, but I do like Reese Witherspoon, though she's kind of ugly pretty, if you know what I mean.

― n/a (Nick A.), Friday, 28 October 2005 20:04 (twenty years ago)

Or ugly cute, really.

― n/a (Nick A.), Friday, 28 October 2005 20:05 (twenty years ago)

Naomi watts = ok. sorta normal-looking. RW looks like my friend Michelle.

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Friday, 28 October 2005 20:05 (twenty years ago)

Who was Naomi Watts' co-star in Mulholland Drive? She's very attractive.

― Jordan (Jordan), Friday, 28 October 2005 20:06 (twenty years ago)

Naomi Watts bores me to no end and I can't figure out why. She's a good enough actress, attractive in non-fake way, but she's just....dull.

― jocelyn (Jocelyn), Friday, 28 October 2005 20:06 (twenty years ago)

Annie, Radha Mitchell, Alison Lohman

http://www.kino.de/pix/newspics/186889_1.jpg http://entimg.msn.com/i/150/ce/mar2/rmitchell_150x207.jpg
http://www.eonline.com/Features/Features/Sizzlin2003/Girls/Images/pic.lohman.jpg

― jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 28 October 2005 20:07 (twenty years ago)

Jordan, the co-star was Laura Elena Harring.

― jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 28 October 2005 20:08 (twenty years ago)

they are clearly all the same person.

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Friday, 28 October 2005 20:09 (twenty years ago)

http://www.laweekly.com/images/ink/01/48/sm48lede2.jpg

Laura Elena Harring. She looks like someone else, I'm not sure who.

― n/a (Nick A.), Friday, 28 October 2005 20:10 (twenty years ago)

What's up DEEJ
http://www.101lifestyle.com/images/celebs/candace_cameron/candace-cameron-pics-001.jpg

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Friday, 28 October 2005 20:11 (twenty years ago)

NOT PRETTY

― n/a (Nick A.), Friday, 28 October 2005 20:11 (twenty years ago)

(xpost) Lauren Graham?

http://www.orlandosentinel.com/media/photo/2005-07/18663516.jpg

― jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 28 October 2005 20:11 (twenty years ago)

Keep it up, guys.

― giboyeux (skowly), Friday, 28 October 2005 20:14 (twenty years ago)

http://bestof.provocateuse.com/images/photos/gina_torres_99.jpg

Gina Torres

― Jordan (Jordan), Friday, 28 October 2005 20:14 (twenty years ago)

KIMMY GIBLER'S IN THE HOOOOOOOUSE
http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y159/mattlcohen/kimmyg.jpg

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Friday, 28 October 2005 20:16 (twenty years ago)

I think you're right, John.

― n/a (Nick A.), Friday, 28 October 2005 20:16 (twenty years ago)

she looks like red haired 70s show girl.

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Friday, 28 October 2005 20:17 (twenty years ago)

no kimmie, but the mulholland drive lady.

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Friday, 28 October 2005 20:17 (twenty years ago)

Laura Prepon. I don't watch the show but I think she's really hot, actually.

― Jordan (Jordan), Friday, 28 October 2005 20:19 (twenty years ago)

Laura "Grey" Prepon?

― jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 28 October 2005 20:19 (twenty years ago)

I've said before that she's the fourth most attractive person on that show, but that has more to do with my own tastes than anything else.

― jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 28 October 2005 20:19 (twenty years ago)

yeah. that's who she looks like in that photo, at least to me. fourth most attractive? who's the first?

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Friday, 28 October 2005 20:20 (twenty years ago)

Haha. Speaking of:

http://images.usatoday.com/life/cyber/_photos/2002-1-21-web-celeb.jpg

Lauren Ambrose.

(not the best picture, but y'know)

― Jordan (Jordan), Friday, 28 October 2005 20:21 (twenty years ago)

Kunis > Grace > Kutcher > Prepon, I think.

― jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 28 October 2005 20:21 (twenty years ago)

ihttp://www.hissandpop.com/celebrities/p/lauraprepon/photos/laura-prepon-010.jpg

I am going to get in trouble.

― n/a (Nick A.), Friday, 28 October 2005 20:22 (twenty years ago)

ihttp://images.absolutenow.com/rp/6137_ambrose_lauren_11.jpg

― Jordan (Jordan), Friday, 28 October 2005 20:22 (twenty years ago)

pigs! all of you! see you tomorrow at the party.

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Friday, 28 October 2005 20:23 (twenty years ago)

Haha. I like that picture of Laura Prepon (as opposed to Laura Postpon?).

― Jordan (Jordan), Friday, 28 October 2005 20:23 (twenty years ago)

Gothic Betty.

― n/a (Nick A.), Friday, 28 October 2005 20:25 (twenty years ago)

I never get invited to parties. :(

― F.R.I.E.N.D. (nordicskilla), Friday, 28 October 2005 20:27 (twenty years ago)

Hey. Is anyone going to the Hold Steady concert tonight?

Prepon is pretty.

xpost you can come to my party.

― giboyeux (skowly), Friday, 28 October 2005 20:27 (twenty years ago)

You can come to my party too. You should party-hop.

― n/a (Nick A.), Friday, 28 October 2005 20:28 (twenty years ago)

― F.R.I.E.N.D. (nordicskilla), Friday, 28 October 2005 20:29 (twenty years ago)

"Gothic Betty" is like a cross between the Simpsons episode when Lisa tries befriending the cool kids and a Jack Chick tract.

― jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 28 October 2005 20:29 (twenty years ago)

"where's the java?"

― giboyeux (skowly), Friday, 28 October 2005 20:29 (twenty years ago)

Those are pretty shitty goths, actually, the way they just start laughing at the end. I hope that's MOCKING laughter.

― n/a (Nick A.), Friday, 28 October 2005 20:30 (twenty years ago)

I love "couldn't insert rice for copyright reasons but we all know that's what they mean" crispie treats!

― jocelyn (Jocelyn), Friday, 28 October 2005 20:30 (twenty years ago)

Maybe that's a conscious reference-by-omission to Anne Rice?

― n/a (Nick A.), Friday, 28 October 2005 20:32 (twenty years ago)

(Probably not.)

― n/a (Nick A.), Friday, 28 October 2005 20:32 (twenty years ago)

"Black Lipstix"? Do you think they're aware of the garage-punk band Black Lips? My guess is no.

― jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 28 October 2005 20:32 (twenty years ago)

Maybe it's not too late to put together Goth Betty/Gothic Archie costumes for the party tomorrow.

― Jordan (Jordan), Friday, 28 October 2005 20:32 (twenty years ago)

...was that a REAL Archie comic?

― giboyeux (skowly), Friday, 28 October 2005 20:33 (twenty years ago)

http://www.lestats120minutes.com/IMAGES/Dead-anne.jpg

Anne Rice: NOT PRETTY.

― n/a (Nick A.), Friday, 28 October 2005 20:33 (twenty years ago)

giboyeux, I wasn't sure at first, but I think it is! I'm totally fascinated by it.

― jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 28 October 2005 20:34 (twenty years ago)

In a "I want to write a cultural-studies paper on it" sort of way.

― jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 28 October 2005 20:34 (twenty years ago)

The consensus of the ILComics thread is that it is real.

― n/a (Nick A.), Friday, 28 October 2005 20:35 (twenty years ago)

Well no, they didn't discuss the genuineness of it on that thread, never mind. But if it's a fake, it's a really skillful fake!

― n/a (Nick A.), Friday, 28 October 2005 20:36 (twenty years ago)

I think it's real. That shit still comes out regularly! Who knows what kind of crazy stuff they're writing?!

― Jordan (Jordan), Friday, 28 October 2005 20:37 (twenty years ago)

It seems totally real. A "fake" Archie would have made the Goths more Goth-y. This makes them LAME. Therefore: real.

In other news: my boss just handed out beers. TGIMFF, doggz!!!

― giboyeux (skowly), Friday, 28 October 2005 20:37 (twenty years ago)

It can't be a fake, though. I mean, it's not like one of those fakes where they just change the text, because all of the artwork actually supports the text.

― jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 28 October 2005 20:38 (twenty years ago)

I want a beer! I have no idea what I'm doing tonight. Probably something lame like cleaning my apartment in preparation for the move.

― jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 28 October 2005 20:38 (twenty years ago)

I bet there's a "That '70's Show" rerun sometime on WGN tonight.

― n/a (Nick A.), Friday, 28 October 2005 20:41 (twenty years ago)

I think I will be cleaning out my car in preparation for tomorrow, and also, uh, going dress shopping with Maddie in preparation for tomorrow.

xpost, HOT!

― Jordan (Jordan), Friday, 28 October 2005 20:41 (twenty years ago)

I have no idea what I'm doing tonight. Probably something lame like cleaning my apartment in preparation for the move.

I was thinking that, too. Except without the moving part.

OTOH, if you want a beer *and* company...

― Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Friday, 28 October 2005 20:43 (twenty years ago)

OH KENAN! Sarah is coming back to pick me up so now we CAN give you a ride. Sorry for the vacillating.

― n/a (Nick A.), Friday, 28 October 2005 20:44 (twenty years ago)

Guys! Go to the Hold Steady show!

...or am I the only person here who likes them? I blame classic rock.

― giboyeux (skowly), Friday, 28 October 2005 20:45 (twenty years ago)

Hold Steady/Constantines no less! But I bet jaymc won't go because it's at Logan Square Auditorium.

― n/a (Nick A.), Friday, 28 October 2005 20:45 (twenty years ago)

Actually, Devendra was good at Logan Sq. Auditorium. Maybe LSA just isn't good for electronic music (Mouse on Mars, Junior Boys, Mum), because I prefer that stuff to be as crisp as possible, which is difficult in such a huge, high-ceilinged room.

I sorta like the Hold Steady but not enough to go see them. I admire them more than I like them. I saw them do an acoustic set at CMJ last month and got bored halfway through, although Finn is certainly fun to watch sometimes.

Also, I don't care to spend that much money tonight. I spent like $30 on Tuesday just watching the White Sox game at the bar.

― jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 28 October 2005 20:50 (twenty years ago)

I can't take a ride today, Nick. Have to go to the bank. Sorry. But thanks for thinking of me!

― Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Friday, 28 October 2005 20:50 (twenty years ago)

Okey doke, see you all tomorrow. Once I stop posting in 7 minutes, that is.

― n/a (Nick A.), Friday, 28 October 2005 20:51 (twenty years ago)

Who are the White Sox?

― F.R.I.E.N.D. (nordicskilla), Friday, 28 October 2005 20:52 (twenty years ago)

D+

― n/a (Nick A.), Friday, 28 October 2005 20:52 (twenty years ago)

I will also see everyone tomorrow!

― Jordan (Jordan), Friday, 28 October 2005 20:52 (twenty years ago)

A feeble reimagining of "I don't even know who you are."

― n/a (Nick A.), Friday, 28 October 2005 20:52 (twenty years ago)

I saw you at LSA xpost

...I've been bleeding money lately. I blame drink.

Who are......THE WHITE SOX?

A:http://www.slate.com/id/2128744/

― giboyeux (skowly), Friday, 28 October 2005 20:53 (twenty years ago)

Adam, don't play dumb-Britisher. They are the World Champions of Baseball. Or as Dom Passantino said, the winners of the Baseball FA Cup.

― jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 28 October 2005 20:53 (twenty years ago)

I will also see everyone tomorrow!

(except for Adam, of course)

― Jordan (Jordan), Friday, 28 October 2005 20:53 (twenty years ago)

Adam, who is Arsenal?

― jocelyn (Jocelyn), Friday, 28 October 2005 20:53 (twenty years ago)

WAHT ARE CRIKCETS

― giboyeux (skowly), Friday, 28 October 2005 20:54 (twenty years ago)

Uh, who is Captain Britain?

― Jordan (Jordan), Friday, 28 October 2005 20:54 (twenty years ago)

I saw you at LSA xpost

m4m - 23

no -- it's NOT ok to contact this poster with services or other commercial interests

― jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 28 October 2005 20:55 (twenty years ago)

But seriously though, who is Guy Fawkes?

― n/a (Nick A.), Friday, 28 October 2005 20:55 (twenty years ago)

Adam, who is Arsenal?

I don't know. I don't know who Arsenal are. If I did know who they were, which I don't btw, I would shout "who are ya?" at them.

― F.R.I.E.N.D. (nordicskilla), Friday, 28 October 2005 20:55 (twenty years ago)

Good question! I read V for Vendetta and I still don't know!

― Jordan (Jordan), Friday, 28 October 2005 20:56 (twenty years ago)

VEXING VERILY

― natportmansbaldhead, Friday, 28 October 2005 20:56 (twenty years ago)

Guy Fawkes was a central defender for Everton in the early 80s. He now owns a pub in Macclesfield called The Hearty Crow.

― F.R.I.E.N.D. (nordicskilla), Friday, 28 October 2005 20:56 (twenty years ago)

Adam's guide to BRITISH culture

― jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 28 October 2005 20:57 (twenty years ago)

Who is Dom Passantino?

― F.R.I.E.N.D. (nordicskilla), Friday, 28 October 2005 20:57 (twenty years ago)

roffle

― Jordan (Jordan), Friday, 28 October 2005 20:57 (twenty years ago)

http://www.kgw.com/sharedcontent/east/parts/bodyimages/facialfeatures3/20041201_330.jpg

― n/a (Nick A.), Friday, 28 October 2005 20:58 (twenty years ago)

who's that?

― F.R.I.E.N.D. (nordicskilla), Friday, 28 October 2005 20:58 (twenty years ago)

aaaand that's a wrap.

― Jordan (Jordan), Friday, 28 October 2005 21:00 (twenty years ago)

Chicago 20: The classic-rock canon and the knowledge/ignorance thereof; requests for proofreading; the White Sox; early musical experiences; how not to disappoint one's parents; Literati; famous women who are pretty; random photos of Alex Trebek.

― jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 28 October 2005 21:06 (twenty years ago)

who?

― F.R.I.E.N.D. (nordicskilla), Friday, 28 October 2005 21:07 (twenty years ago)

He's like the Richard Whiteley of the U.S.

― jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 28 October 2005 21:09 (twenty years ago)

oh wait!

you were talking about digital cameras! I like those! I have a canon powershot s500! I have a PRO flickr account!

― F.R.I.E.N.D. (nordicskilla), Friday, 28 October 2005 21:10 (twenty years ago)

Can't Hold Steady - gotta review Albee play tonight.

I think Renee Zellweger's cute, 'cause she doesn't look like an A-list actress. I think Meg White's cute.

― Eazy (Eazy), Friday, 28 October 2005 21:11 (twenty years ago)

I thought Renee was cute in Jerry Maguire, but not in anything else.

― F.R.I.E.N.D. (nordicskilla), Friday, 28 October 2005 21:12 (twenty years ago)

and that's my two cents.

― F.R.I.E.N.D. (nordicskilla), Friday, 28 October 2005 21:12 (twenty years ago)

I think Renee Zellweger's cute

Yuck.

― jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 28 October 2005 21:13 (twenty years ago)

I would love to go to the Hold Steady, but it's at the LSA, therefore pain in the ass to get to, and I should be doing other stuff.

― Jeff-PTTL (Jeff), Friday, 28 October 2005 21:14 (twenty years ago)

Scarlett J. There's cute for ya.

― Eazy (Eazy), Friday, 28 October 2005 21:15 (twenty years ago)

sorry, NO

― F.R.I.E.N.D. (nordicskilla), Friday, 28 October 2005 21:15 (twenty years ago)

I don't like people that never smile.

― F.R.I.E.N.D. (nordicskilla), Friday, 28 October 2005 21:16 (twenty years ago)

What do you mean? She smiles. I agree with you about smiling, though.

― jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 28 October 2005 21:18 (twenty years ago)

She looks like she has permanent back pain.

Now I sympathize with that, but it doesn't make me want to snuggle her.

― F.R.I.E.N.D. (nordicskilla), Friday, 28 October 2005 21:19 (twenty years ago)

She *grimaces*

― F.R.I.E.N.D. (nordicskilla), Friday, 28 October 2005 21:19 (twenty years ago)

Tr1n1 Alvarado, whom I googleproof because I hung out with her long ago. But she's gorgeous.

― Eazy (Eazy), Friday, 28 October 2005 21:38 (twenty years ago)

Who is that?

― F.R.I.E.N.D. (nordicskilla), Friday, 28 October 2005 21:38 (twenty years ago)

PLZ DO NOT TALK ABOUT SCARLETT THAT WAY F.R.I.E.N.D

― giboyeux (skowly), Friday, 28 October 2005 21:39 (twenty years ago)

Take her, dude.

― F.R.I.E.N.D. (nordicskilla), Friday, 28 October 2005 21:40 (twenty years ago)

(sorry kenan)

― F.R.I.E.N.D. (nordicskilla), Friday, 28 October 2005 21:41 (twenty years ago)

TRINI ALVARADO

"Trini Alvarado? Who's that?") (One can also hardly count an occurrence of her name in an NY Times crossword as a great advancement of career...) ...

www.greatgridlock.net/Trini/trini2.html - 8k - Cached - Similar pages

― jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 28 October 2005 21:57 (twenty years ago)

Oops: forgot to Googleproof.

― jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 28 October 2005 21:57 (twenty years ago)

xxpost haha

I'm happy to coin a phrase, even through being a douche.

― Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Friday, 28 October 2005 21:58 (twenty years ago)

Have I mentioned Ludivine Sagnier this week yet? She's my desktop wallpaper at the moment.

― Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Friday, 28 October 2005 22:01 (twenty years ago)

now that gyal is WELL FIT, ya get me bruv?

― F.R.I.E.N.D. (nordicskilla), Friday, 28 October 2005 22:01 (twenty years ago)

I like her flex, she's a bare buff 'ting, etc.

― F.R.I.E.N.D. (nordicskilla), Friday, 28 October 2005 22:04 (twenty years ago)

Forgot to googleproof!

― Eazy (Eazy), Friday, 28 October 2005 22:05 (twenty years ago)

But it's OK!

― Eazy (Eazy), Friday, 28 October 2005 22:07 (twenty years ago)

I cut-and-pasted that from Google!

It's probably not a big deal, is it, Eric?

― jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 28 October 2005 22:09 (twenty years ago)

Not a big deal at all! Hey, I'm seeing a play at 8 at Bryn Mawr and Sheridan - if you're around and want a beer before or after, we could.

― Eazy (Eazy), Friday, 28 October 2005 22:10 (twenty years ago)

I will only link this, because it's freaking huge (hence the wallpaper):

http://belles.rebelles.free.fr/Ludivine_Sagnier.jpg

― Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Friday, 28 October 2005 23:00 (twenty years ago)

TWO MEXICAN DUDES LOVE THIS SHIT.

― giboyeux (skowly), Saturday, 29 October 2005 06:46 (twenty years ago)

― jaymc (jaymc), Saturday, 29 October 2005 06:48 (twenty years ago)

i feel like the photo of laura elena harring looks MOSTLY like lauren graham but with the smallest teaspoon of bebe neuwirth.

― jaymc (jaymc), Saturday, 29 October 2005 06:51 (twenty years ago)

I am eating A BURRITO! CAN YOU UNDERSTAND THIS? A BURRITO!

― Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Saturday, 29 October 2005 07:21 (twenty years ago)

Mmm... beer for breakfast.

― Df'nM (OutDatWay), Saturday, 29 October 2005 14:34 (twenty years ago)

I personally prefer breakfast for breakfast.

― n/a (Nick A.), Saturday, 29 October 2005 14:56 (twenty years ago)

Depends on the morning.

I had mexican eggs and potatos this morning.

― Jeff-PTTL (Jeff), Saturday, 29 October 2005 15:45 (twenty years ago)

My bldg. has Halloween candy in the lobby, so I'm eating Milk Duds. Breakfast of champions.

Nick - I'm probably too caught up in moving stuff to make it to the party tonight, alas!

― Eazy (Eazy), Saturday, 29 October 2005 16:52 (twenty years ago)

NOOOOOOOOOOOOO!

< /vader >

― Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Saturday, 29 October 2005 17:43 (twenty years ago)

EZ -- You hung out with TR!NI ALVARAD0? I love her! She was my favorite girl in Satisfaction and I sat through the abomination that was Stella because SHE was in it. She and Britta Philips were my favorites in Satisfaction. She was SO COOL. I am totally not exaggerating here. I really loved her.

I have my costume finalized, I'm not going to be JT Leroy and I will be wearing fangs. SEE YOU AT THE PARTY DUDES!

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Saturday, 29 October 2005 18:34 (twenty years ago)

TWO MEXICAN DUDES LOVE THIS SHIT.

-- giboyeux (in....), October 29th, 2005 2:46 AM. (skowly) (later)

I have zero recollection of this, or why it would have made sense.

― giboyeux (skowly), Saturday, 29 October 2005 18:44 (twenty years ago)

How was the party?! Sorry I didn't make it out . . . I was so exhausted. I spoke to John whilst half asleep. Loooong weekend. But the party!?!?!?!

― kelsey (kelstarry), Sunday, 30 October 2005 17:14 (twenty years ago)

http://static.flickr.com/26/57542538_b66598c0e8.jpg?v=0

this should answer all your questions.

― Jeff-PTTL (Jeff), Sunday, 30 October 2005 18:46 (twenty years ago)

You can also sample the wares on my flickr page, although the photos are considerably more tame. I left early, I guess?

― cannibal carolyn, Sunday, 30 October 2005 18:54 (twenty years ago)

The party was fun, sorry we didn't stay longer. I was unusually awake on the drive home, which was good, and it was nice to wake up at home.

― Jordan (Jordan), Sunday, 30 October 2005 19:53 (twenty years ago)

http://static.flickr.com/33/57701301_63899107bf.jpg
http://static.flickr.com/24/57701296_0add0e9abd.jpg
http://static.flickr.com/29/57701297_97fe227ad3.jpg
http://static.flickr.com/32/57701299_bd1c58f7c9.jpg

I love the second one because everyone's basically just ignoring me.

― n/a (Nick A.), Sunday, 30 October 2005 21:44 (twenty years ago)

OMG Nick in bear hat with whiskey and beer = best photo ever.

― Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Monday, 31 October 2005 14:23 (twenty years ago)

Looks like the party got crazy after I left, judging by bear hat proliferation.

― Jordan (Jordan), Monday, 31 October 2005 14:30 (twenty years ago)

jordan, is that you in the blue shirt? did you shave your goatee off?

― kelsey (kelstarry), Monday, 31 October 2005 14:32 (twenty years ago)

No, that's Jesse!

What is Amanda's flickr username? I thought it was ratsofinnerty?

― jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 31 October 2005 14:34 (twenty years ago)

just link through mine. it's ratso something . . .

sorry! i've never met jesse!

― kelsey (kelstarry), Monday, 31 October 2005 14:38 (twenty years ago)

it is, there's a space in the middle. you can also go to flickr.com/photos/marshmallowy

i mean, if you really want to. my photos are 10X more sedate than these. and i left at ten after one or so.

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Monday, 31 October 2005 14:39 (twenty years ago)

I don't think I'm in any of the pictures!

Maddie put some nice pictures from the architectural tour on her flickr page btw.

― Jordan (Jordan), Monday, 31 October 2005 14:40 (twenty years ago)

(xpost) Amanda is in nobody's contacts.

― jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 31 October 2005 14:41 (twenty years ago)

FLICKR IS SO CONFUSING

― jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 31 October 2005 14:41 (twenty years ago)

what?! she's totally one of mine & sarahs...

― kelsey (kelstarry), Monday, 31 October 2005 14:43 (twenty years ago)

You have to go to 'more' I think.

― Jordan (Jordan), Monday, 31 October 2005 14:43 (twenty years ago)

i had a couple of you jordan but they were blurry and super bright and not very fun to look at. some of mine are sideways because photoshop made my computer freeze up and i was too pissy to try again. some of them are ok though.

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Monday, 31 October 2005 14:44 (twenty years ago)

Who is the sock monkey? It's a great costume.

― jocelyn (Jocelyn), Monday, 31 October 2005 14:48 (twenty years ago)

In that case, I thank you for not posting doofy pictures of me.

― Jordan (Jordan), Monday, 31 October 2005 14:49 (twenty years ago)

i don't remember sock monkey's name -- she was a friend of the mother of the bride. the costume was really cute.

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Monday, 31 October 2005 14:50 (twenty years ago)

Halloween 2005, THE LINK

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Monday, 31 October 2005 14:51 (twenty years ago)

I *did* go to "More"!

― jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 31 October 2005 14:55 (twenty years ago)

We watched J&J's copy of "Suspiria" yesterday, it was scary! But the Goblin soundtrack CD wouldn't work in our laptop.

― n/a (Nick A.), Monday, 31 October 2005 14:58 (twenty years ago)

...someone ELSE went as a Mexican wrestler? What are the odds.

― giboyeux (skowly), Monday, 31 October 2005 14:58 (twenty years ago)

N+S: I'll bring the Goblin CD I made for you the next time we all get together. If two weeks go by and that hasn't happened yet, I'll mail it.

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Monday, 31 October 2005 15:00 (twenty years ago)

I also went as a flapper and was the only person who showed up in full costume. It was a little embarrassing. Then I drank a lot of rum & cider and watched Nightmare on Elm Street which is laughably silly now, and Screaming Ninja, the existence of which I had forgotten.

― jocelyn (Jocelyn), Monday, 31 October 2005 15:19 (twenty years ago)

I have a crush on the sock monkey. But every time I meet her, I seem to be shamefully drunk. Meh.

Well, maybe leter. I have to stop drinking as of tomorrow anyway. Going on new meds. Whoo! I R Crazy!

― Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Monday, 31 October 2005 15:20 (twenty years ago)

is that jenny? the zombie lady?!

― kelsey (kelstarry), Monday, 31 October 2005 15:20 (twenty years ago)

Yep -- she looked awesome.

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Monday, 31 October 2005 15:24 (twenty years ago)

she doesn't look like herself AT ALL!!!

for the record, i did have a costume planned out . . . i wanted a reason to wear both my goatee & my new cowboy boots. my outfit would have been the following:
cowboy boots, a skirt, "western" shirt, bandana on head, sweatband on head, "bling" necklaces, & goatee. i was going to me a female impersonating urban cowboy who is trying his hand at rap.

the line i came up with on the loooong drive home was:

"i love you more than all the tumbleweeds in texas,
why don't you sit in the passenger seat of my new lexus."

when i got home, i made the mistake of lying on my bed. i pretty much promptly fell asleep . . . then talked to john & told him i was too wiped to leave the house. it was an exhausting weekend & if i ever needed a party, it was probably saturday night. maybe someone(s) wants to get a beer some night this week instead?!?!?!

― kelsey (kelstarry), Monday, 31 October 2005 15:32 (twenty years ago)

which reminds me -- i saw brooke and katie at yes thai on friday night and i offered to host ANTM this wednesday, if you're free? i have an exam the next day, so i'm going to have to study after 8pm, but i hope to have things under control by then. deets to follow in email.

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Monday, 31 October 2005 15:36 (twenty years ago)

Hi, guys. I'm slammed at work this morning. Urgh.

I'm sorry you couldn't come, Kelsey & Eazy.

And now... one last plug: Fake Fictions, Saturday night, Silvie's.

― Kittens Licking Cakes (coco), Monday, 31 October 2005 15:39 (twenty years ago)

yay! i'd love that. i am excited to meet carl.

sarah: i'm out of town this weekend . . . leaf & i are meeting up at the dells.

and honestly, i'm very excited to see him, but i am REALLY looking forward to having a lazy weekend to myself AT HOME. i haven't had one of those in a long, long time. i probably won't have one until the weekend before thanksgiving.

― kelsey (kelstarry), Monday, 31 October 2005 15:41 (twenty years ago)

THE DELLS

But isn't it a little chilly to go to a water park?

― Jordan (Jordan), Monday, 31 October 2005 15:45 (twenty years ago)

i think we'll be able to keep one another warm . . . in the "water park."

ugh. all my typed humor is falling off a cliff today.

― kelsey (kelstarry), Monday, 31 October 2005 15:48 (twenty years ago)

so we have this pumpkin-carving contest at work. there are about 6 entries, only one of which is actually carved; the rest are just pumpkins that have been painted, clothed, or adorned in some way. is this what people consider pumpkin decorating these days?

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Monday, 31 October 2005 16:04 (twenty years ago)

I resented even having to bring something in for the potluck today, so I can understand why people don't want to carve pumpkins.

― jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 31 October 2005 16:05 (twenty years ago)

Lame. Speaking of which, I better find a pumpkin FAST or else I'll have gone another year without carving one.

Honestly, though, I just want to bake and eat the seeds.

xpost, what did you bring?

― Jordan (Jordan), Monday, 31 October 2005 16:05 (twenty years ago)

that's lame.

― kelsey (kelstarry), Monday, 31 October 2005 16:06 (twenty years ago)

Ha, I brought four bottles of soda. Pop. Soda pop. Cost me all of about 5 bucks at Jewel.

― jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 31 October 2005 16:07 (twenty years ago)

I don't cook.

― jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 31 October 2005 16:07 (twenty years ago)

We made home star runner pumpkins last year from templates. It was fun, but I agree that the roasty toasty seeds are the best part.
Jordan-did UW students get pepper sprayed AGAIN this year?

― jocelyn (Jocelyn), Monday, 31 October 2005 16:07 (twenty years ago)

last night, leaf & i had one of our "remote" dates & we watched "the story of the weeping camel" & there is a woman that sings to a mother camel to get it to accept it's calf & her voice is so fucking incredible. i suspect she's singing in the tuvian style, since she doesn't move her mouth much, but i'm not sure. how can i get a copy of her singing? there is no soundtrack for sale . . .

john: you cook all the time!

― kelsey (kelstarry), Monday, 31 October 2005 16:08 (twenty years ago)

Seeds -- totally the best part. Roasty toasty. Mmmmm.

You could email the filmmakers, Kelsey -- I'm sure they're nice people.

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Monday, 31 October 2005 16:10 (twenty years ago)

they're german. think they'd write back?!?!?!

― kelsey (kelstarry), Monday, 31 October 2005 16:15 (twenty years ago)

There was some pepper spray action, but it sounds like it was just out of habit. For the first time in years there were no "riots", no liquor stores being broken into, just people who didn't want to stop partying on the street (despite the extra hour of daylight savings drinking!).

― Jordan (Jordan), Monday, 31 October 2005 16:17 (twenty years ago)

how was the party?

― F.R.I.E.N.D. (nordicskilla), Monday, 31 October 2005 16:17 (twenty years ago)

http://www.madison.com/wsj/mad/top/index.php?ntid=59783

― Jordan (Jordan), Monday, 31 October 2005 16:18 (twenty years ago)

kelsey - i bet they would write back. it's worth a try, at least.

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Monday, 31 October 2005 16:25 (twenty years ago)

http://64.73.24.44/madison/adimage.php?filename=wsj-homecoming-ad.jpg&contenttype=jpeg

― F.R.I.E.N.D. (nordicskilla), Monday, 31 October 2005 16:35 (twenty years ago)

I had no idea there was a pirate-themed homecoming this year. Huh.

― Jordan (Jordan), Monday, 31 October 2005 16:41 (twenty years ago)

john: you cook all the time!

Heating up a veggie burger in the microwave is not cooking. I guess I make pasta maybe once every couple weeks?

― jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 31 October 2005 16:41 (twenty years ago)

Renee loves Story of the Weeping Camel -- I think it was her favorite movie of last year.

― jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 31 October 2005 16:42 (twenty years ago)

hey adamrl: can you give me a grime primer? A grimer, if you will?

― giboyeux (skowly), Monday, 31 October 2005 16:52 (twenty years ago)

Guys, I need some help designing and building a deli sandwich for lunch. Even though I've eaten thousands of sandwiches in my life thus far, I freeze up when given carte blanche and too many meat/cheese/dressing/veggie options.

Here is the menu. Help. Please.

― Jordan (Jordan), Monday, 31 October 2005 17:02 (twenty years ago)

of course, gib. nothing tickles my music-nerd autistic tendencies more than being asked to provide such a thing. you mean post it, or send it to you?

― F.R.I.E.N.D. (nordicskilla), Monday, 31 October 2005 17:02 (twenty years ago)

That deli looks awesome.

― jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 31 October 2005 17:05 (twenty years ago)

Crazy Sandwich (tm)

Honey Maple Ham
Honey Maple Turkey
With Smoked Liverwurst
On a Sesame Hoagie
With Muenster and Swiss
and Horseradish (or Buttermilk Ranch)
and Jack Daniels.

Jordan, seeing that I never eat this stuff, I'm really of no help!

― kelsey (kelstarry), Monday, 31 October 2005 17:07 (twenty years ago)

I mean, is it okay to have a dressing AND a mustard? What kind of meat best partners with pastrami? This is so much easier at home where I only have a limited number of options.

― Jordan (Jordan), Monday, 31 October 2005 17:08 (twenty years ago)

Both, maybe! Or just send it.

Yes! YES! Thank you!

xpost

― giboyeux (skowly), Monday, 31 October 2005 17:08 (twenty years ago)

Genoa Salami
Hot Cappicola
Provolone

― Df'nM (OutDatWay), Monday, 31 October 2005 17:10 (twenty years ago)

NICE DELI! how about this -- genoa salami or/and prosciutto on french hoagie with the mozzarella-tomato-basil salad ON IT.

that sounds ridiculously tasty, even knowing that salami is weird mystery meat.

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Monday, 31 October 2005 17:11 (twenty years ago)

Fuck, let me do that again

Genoa Salami
Hot Cappicola
Provolone
Vinegrette
White Wine (Mustard)
French Hoagie

Giardinera if they've got it. Onions. Tomatos. No fucking iceburg lettuce shit.

― Df'nM (OutDatWay), Monday, 31 October 2005 17:13 (twenty years ago)

genoa salami or/and prosciutto on french hoagie with the mozzarella-tomato-basil salad ON IT.

I would seriously ask them to do that, except that the tomatoes are whole plum tomatoes and the mozzarella chunks are huge, so it's not very sandwich friendly.

I'm going to synthesize the above suggestions and go to the deli (I think daylight savings justifies an early lunch, right?). Will report back.

― Jordan (Jordan), Monday, 31 October 2005 17:16 (twenty years ago)

This is off-topic of sandwiches, but that's not going to stop me:

On Friday I was working with this guy that I tutor and he asked me to define the word "pert." I had a hard time thinking of anything that people refer to as "pert" other than breasts. The conversation got awkward when I started to try to explain how breasts could be "pert" and we laughed. Haha. Ok, fast forward to today...

I'm reading this Maureen Dowd article in the Sunday NYT magazine and she writes the following sentence:

Decades after the feminist movement promised equality with men, it was becoming increasingly apparent that many women would have to brush up on the venerable tricks of the trade: an absurdly charming little laugh, a pert toss of the head, an air of saucy triumph, dewy eyes and a full knowledge of music, drawing, elegant note writing and geography.

How about that.

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Monday, 31 October 2005 17:18 (twenty years ago)

Noses can be pert, too.

― pullapartgirl (pullapartgirl), Monday, 31 October 2005 17:21 (twenty years ago)

I think it's appropriate to have a dressing and a mustard if the sandwich constructor is told to take it easy on one or both.

xpost: Yeah, Pert = hair = shampoo. Or breasts. But I prefer "perky."

― Df'nM (OutDatWay), Monday, 31 October 2005 17:22 (twenty years ago)

I'm also not sure how I feel about this article. I'm finding it depressing.

Noses! Good one. That would have made a better example than BREASTS.

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Monday, 31 October 2005 17:22 (twenty years ago)

― F.R.I.E.N.D. (nordicskilla), Monday, 31 October 2005 17:24 (twenty years ago)

You could say that a Mini Cooper is a pert car.

Pert = petite + alert?

― Eazy (Eazy), Monday, 31 October 2005 17:30 (twenty years ago)

But it would take a true lothario to say effectively 'Your breasts are like Mini Coopers - petite but alert'.

― Eazy (Eazy), Monday, 31 October 2005 17:33 (twenty years ago)

Heh. 3rd alternative from the OSX Dashboard Dictionary:

another term for PEART

Neal Pert

― Df'nM (OutDatWay), Monday, 31 October 2005 17:35 (twenty years ago)

Which reminds me that Rush was left out of our classic rock canon.

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Monday, 31 October 2005 17:36 (twenty years ago)

WHAT'S UP WITH THAT?

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Monday, 31 October 2005 17:36 (twenty years ago)

But it would take a true lothario to say effectively 'Your breasts are like Mini Coopers - petite but alert'.

R. "You Remind Me of My Jeep" Kelly could pull it off.

― jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 31 October 2005 17:36 (twenty years ago)

::swoon::

― kelsey (kelstarry), Monday, 31 October 2005 17:37 (twenty years ago)

Mini Coopers; Hondas; Range Rovers; Escalades.

― Eazy (Eazy), Monday, 31 October 2005 17:38 (twenty years ago)

Also maybe E.E. Cummings:

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― jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 31 October 2005 17:39 (twenty years ago)

Phew.

― Eazy (Eazy), Monday, 31 October 2005 17:41 (twenty years ago)

― Df'nM (OutDatWay), Monday, 31 October 2005 17:48 (twenty years ago)

Wow.

― Jordan (Jordan), Monday, 31 October 2005 17:49 (twenty years ago)

Okay, so I got:

RYE BREAD
Provolone
Tomatoes
Vinagarette
Genoa Salami
Hot cappicola
Jack Daniels Mustard
RYE BREAD

It's delicious, esp. the mustard + cappicola. I couldn't have done this sandwich alone, so shout outs to God, my parents, my producers, Df'nM, etc.

― Jordan (Jordan), Monday, 31 October 2005 17:52 (twenty years ago)

This rye bread doesn't have caraway seeds in it = awesome.

― Jordan (Jordan), Monday, 31 October 2005 17:52 (twenty years ago)

Solid. Makes me want to go get my own. Oh, tis the noon hour. I'm off to the sandwich-maker's alley. Smashing!

― Df'nM (OutDatWay), Monday, 31 October 2005 17:54 (twenty years ago)

i just ate some spaghetti squash i made last night & now i'm kinda hungry. i brought frozen "riblets" . . . should i run out for some soup as well? i think my squash was fairly low calorie, the riblets are close to 150 . . .

hmmmm.

― kelsey (kelstarry), Monday, 31 October 2005 17:58 (twenty years ago)

I get to eat free lunch and watch two Treehouse of Horror Simpsons episodes with the Outlaws again. I WIN.

― pullapartgirl (pullapartgirl), Monday, 31 October 2005 17:59 (twenty years ago)

what is cappicola like?

yes, you should get some soup. soup sounds really good right now.

― Juulia (julesbdules), Monday, 31 October 2005 18:00 (twenty years ago)

It's a kind of thin-cut deli pork. Kinda hard to describe but it's softer than prosciutto.

― Jordan (Jordan), Monday, 31 October 2005 18:05 (twenty years ago)

And apparently it only has one "p", which is weird.

― Jordan (Jordan), Monday, 31 October 2005 18:07 (twenty years ago)

I love prosciutto. When a friend and I went to Florence for a few days we ate prosciutto and buffalo mozzerella sandwiches for lunch 5 days in a row, that's how good it was. I think if I was Jewish prosciutto would be my secret treyfe vice.

― jocelyn (Jocelyn), Monday, 31 October 2005 18:42 (twenty years ago)

I keep no secrets about my (many, many) treyf vices.

― Jordan (Jordan), Monday, 31 October 2005 18:51 (twenty years ago)

And similarly, I never ate so much prosciutto and mozzarella as when I was in Switzerland, it was ubiquitous.

― Jordan (Jordan), Monday, 31 October 2005 18:55 (twenty years ago)

What does treyf mean?

― jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 31 October 2005 19:08 (twenty years ago)

Non-kosher (and specifically forbidden, I think?).

― Jordan (Jordan), Monday, 31 October 2005 19:30 (twenty years ago)

Non-kosher (specifically forbidden, I think?).

― Jordan (Jordan), Monday, 31 October 2005 19:30 (twenty years ago)

You have to know these things if you're going to keep passing, jaymc.

― Jordan (Jordan), Monday, 31 October 2005 19:31 (twenty years ago)

I know, that's why I had to ask.

― jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 31 October 2005 19:44 (twenty years ago)

OMG I just tried to squeeze through a too-small space in the hallway on the way to the bathroom and I accidentally touched the UPS man's butt.

Hahahahaha.

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Monday, 31 October 2005 20:05 (twenty years ago)

Was it pert?

― pullapartgirl (pullapartgirl), Monday, 31 October 2005 20:18 (twenty years ago)

was it ever! no, i dunno. it was embarrassing.

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Monday, 31 October 2005 20:25 (twenty years ago)

Those polyester work pants leave so little to the imagination.

― Df'nM (OutDatWay), Monday, 31 October 2005 20:29 (twenty years ago)

UPS Men Break Out the Shorts

― Jordan (Jordan), Monday, 31 October 2005 20:32 (twenty years ago)

i dunno if pert is the best adjective to describe ass. maybe perky is better. though that sounds silly too.

i am trying to remember about the ups man from legally blonde--was there music that would swell when he would bend over? or maybe it was a sort of aura around him...

― Juulia (julesbdules), Monday, 31 October 2005 20:35 (twenty years ago)

I almost linked that, too, Jordan!

― jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 31 October 2005 20:36 (twenty years ago)

Once I was talking emphatically to a friend and flung my hand back right into some guys crotch and felt the whole kit and kaboodle. It was a tad bit embarrassing.

― jocelyn (Jocelyn), Monday, 31 October 2005 20:38 (twenty years ago)

As uniforms go, UPS has dignity.

Hahahaha Jocelyn. That's funny. Was it someone you knew?

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Monday, 31 October 2005 20:39 (twenty years ago)

i asked a friend on aim what a good adjective to describe ass would be and 'pert' was the first thing he said, so maybe i'm wrong there.

― Juulia (julesbdules), Monday, 31 October 2005 20:40 (twenty years ago)

bangin'

― Jordan (Jordan), Monday, 31 October 2005 20:41 (twenty years ago)

I once accidentally punched a female friend on whom I had a long-running crush in the breast. I was going to "playfully" punch her on the shoulder and she turned unexpectedly. It was embarassing.

― n/a (Nick A.), Monday, 31 October 2005 20:42 (twenty years ago)

Sculpted, tight, and slightly lofted, Holdger's ass is naturally tan and completely hairless, and possesses the consistency of a gelatinous stone.

― Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Monday, 31 October 2005 20:42 (twenty years ago)

I like plump.

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Monday, 31 October 2005 20:43 (twenty years ago)

"plump"

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Monday, 31 October 2005 20:43 (twenty years ago)

Also this would have been either in late middle school or early high school, when everything was embarassing.

― n/a (Nick A.), Monday, 31 October 2005 20:43 (twenty years ago)

Ass like POW!

― pullapartgirl (pullapartgirl), Monday, 31 October 2005 20:43 (twenty years ago)

gelatinous!

i got groped like that once, my track coach usually supportively patted my shoulder, but uh got the wrong roundish body part once. it was actually kind of funny how embarrassed he was.

― Juulia (julesbdules), Monday, 31 October 2005 20:44 (twenty years ago)

As I sat on the crowded train ride home Friday afternoon, a man standing next to me rested his ass on my shoulder for a significant portion of the trip.

― pullapartgirl (pullapartgirl), Monday, 31 October 2005 20:44 (twenty years ago)

The last time D and I were at the Green Mill a man (who was in front of me) reached backwards and grabbed my thigh. I think he thought I was his wife, who had been standing behind him until she left and I was there. Oops.

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Monday, 31 October 2005 20:45 (twenty years ago)

The ass can be a heavy burden.

― Jordan (Jordan), Monday, 31 October 2005 20:46 (twenty years ago)

ha! i'm always afraid i'm going to be the thigh guy . . . a couple of times i've almost come up to a stranger from behind thinking it was leaf.

― kelsey (kelstarry), Monday, 31 October 2005 21:08 (twenty years ago)

Hi guys.

― n/a (Nick A.), Monday, 31 October 2005 21:18 (twenty years ago)

hi nick. Good lunch?

― Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Monday, 31 October 2005 21:18 (twenty years ago)

Oh, hi Nick.

― Jordan (Jordan), Monday, 31 October 2005 21:20 (twenty years ago)

I sort of knew him. Fortunately he was a gay male cheerleader who was "very used to being groped" as he put it.

― jocelyn (Jocelyn), Monday, 31 October 2005 21:21 (twenty years ago)

I had some Trader Joe's vegetable dumplings, leftover party Chex Mix, and some Craisins. It was sufficient.

― n/a (Nick A.), Monday, 31 October 2005 21:24 (twenty years ago)

I wish I could eat that deli sandwich again.

― Jordan (Jordan), Monday, 31 October 2005 21:25 (twenty years ago)

I had a gyro from Steve's that was like eating a big ball of spiced grease.

― Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Monday, 31 October 2005 21:26 (twenty years ago)

i seem to be eating nothing of any interest lately except for massive quantities of peanut butter cookies. and now i am out of them. woe.

― Juulia (julesbdules), Monday, 31 October 2005 21:26 (twenty years ago)

I had some leftovers from the tacos i made last night that were really good, but a little oniony and citrusy for my stomach today. i could only eat 1/3 of what i brought. it's too bad, because they were tasty.

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Monday, 31 October 2005 21:27 (twenty years ago)

i ate squash & pumpkin soup. now i feel like i'm coming down with something.

― kelsey (kelstarry), Monday, 31 October 2005 21:29 (twenty years ago)

I thought gyro meat was usually lamb.

I had pizza for lunch. That is also what I had for dinner last night and breakfast today.

*bloat*

― pullapartgirl (pullapartgirl), Monday, 31 October 2005 21:37 (twenty years ago)

I ate at Muskies on Lincoln while waiting for Powell's to buy some of my books. I directed a bunch of plays at a theater that used to be on that same block. Man, so very good, the best of the burgrs/fries world.

― Eazy (Eazy), Monday, 31 October 2005 21:47 (twenty years ago)

I just got E.'s very unkempt minivan washed inside and out - I hope it's not a violation. Heading out to O'hare to pick her up - she played for 2,200 (!) folks in Austin last night.

― Eazy (Eazy), Monday, 31 October 2005 21:48 (twenty years ago)

Wow, a clean van AND a pickup at the airport??! Nice work.

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Monday, 31 October 2005 21:50 (twenty years ago)

I thought gyro meat was usually lamb.

It is, but it's more like a spicy lamb meatloaf. And when they cook it at steves, they throw it on the grill with a bunch of oil.

― Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Monday, 31 October 2005 21:52 (twenty years ago)

Gyros are lamb. Greasy, greasy lamb.

(though some are greasier than others...I'm planning on making some good gyros at home later this week)

xpost

― Jordan (Jordan), Monday, 31 October 2005 21:52 (twenty years ago)

The deli that I had lunch at today makes their own gyro meat.

― Jordan (Jordan), Monday, 31 October 2005 21:53 (twenty years ago)

WOW, Eazy. She seems kind of timid. That's amazing.

― Kittens Licking Cakes (coco), Monday, 31 October 2005 21:54 (twenty years ago)

Apparently the finale was her joining Calex1co and 1ron and Wine for a cover of 'Wild Horses'.

― Eazy (Eazy), Monday, 31 October 2005 21:57 (twenty years ago)

Did she do a bitchin' 20-minute long guitar solo? Because that's what I would have done.

― n/a (Nick A.), Monday, 31 October 2005 22:00 (twenty years ago)

Preferably using one of those Peter Frampton talking-through-your-guitar thingies that I can't think of the name of right now.

― n/a (Nick A.), Monday, 31 October 2005 22:02 (twenty years ago)

I think they're called talkboxes.

― jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 31 October 2005 22:03 (twenty years ago)

Jordan -- if you're still curious about Steely Dan's Everything Must Go, you can stream the album here.

― jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 31 October 2005 22:10 (twenty years ago)

Cool, thanks.

― Jordan (Jordan), Monday, 31 October 2005 22:12 (twenty years ago)

Yes a talkbox! "WA WA WWAAAAA WIIILLLDD HOOOORRSSEEEESSDDIDLLDYLDILLDYODYDLDY WWA WAWWAA WWAAAAALLLLLD HOOOOHOOOOHOOOOHOOOORREESSSEEESSS WWAAW WWWAAAA DDOOOO YOUUU FEEEEELL LLIIIIKKKKE IIII DOOOOOOO WWWEEEEWEWWEWWEWE!!!"

― n/a (Nick A.), Monday, 31 October 2005 22:13 (twenty years ago)

Do you guys use yahoo all the time? Well, there's a pic of Harry Potter under entertainment. He looks kind of like a 60-something year old woman. Just imagine him wearing dangly earrings and TA DA!

Does anyone know what I'm doing November 18th? I have it circled on my calendar but I have no idea why. WWWEEEEIIIIIRRRRRDDDDd.

― Kittens Licking Cakes (coco), Monday, 31 October 2005 22:14 (twenty years ago)

CANASTA SHOW

― jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 31 October 2005 22:16 (twenty years ago)

AHHH CD RELEASE! I was just wondering when that darn Canasta cd is coming out, just earlier today!

― n/a (Nick A.), Monday, 31 October 2005 22:18 (twenty years ago)

I've had it for weeks. It's old news.

― Jordan (Jordan), Monday, 31 October 2005 22:20 (twenty years ago)

ARGH! It's nighttime outside!

― n/a (Nick A.), Monday, 31 October 2005 22:27 (twenty years ago)

yeah. this sucks. i'm not prone to seasonal affective disorder or whatever it's called, but it's a tough transition. i should go outside during the day more.

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Monday, 31 October 2005 22:28 (twenty years ago)

Good thing I don't have any windows.

― Jordan (Jordan), Monday, 31 October 2005 22:34 (twenty years ago)

This night-time stuff blows. I really want to go home, just because it's dark, but that won't be happening for another two hours, I'd reckon.

― giboyeux (skowly), Monday, 31 October 2005 22:44 (twenty years ago)

HEY - Amanda, John, whoever, tell me ONE LAST TIME where you guys get your hair did please? I can't remember but I know you told me before. Is it 0rbit? I can't find a web page for them anymore.

― n/a (Nick A.), Monday, 31 October 2005 22:51 (twenty years ago)

0rbit.0rbit.0rbit.0rbit.0rbit.0rbit.0rbit.

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Monday, 31 October 2005 22:52 (twenty years ago)

leanne. 773 883 1166

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Monday, 31 October 2005 22:53 (twenty years ago)

What happened to their web page? They had one before but now when I google I get one of their stylist's page but not a page for the actual salon.

Thanks Amanda.

― n/a (Nick A.), Monday, 31 October 2005 22:54 (twenty years ago)

Is "Popular" by Nada Surf totally inappropriate for a mix for you ex-girlfriend? I don't want to seem bitter, but it is a great song.

― Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Monday, 31 October 2005 22:56 (twenty years ago)

Why am I so bad at scheduling appointments? I want to get a haircut on Weds but she doesn't work on Weds so I freaked out and was like uh uh I'll call back later. I will probably just end up going to Art + Science again.

― n/a (Nick A.), Monday, 31 October 2005 22:56 (twenty years ago)

Why would "Popular" be inappropriate? It is a great song. Then again, I don't ever expect a mix to contain anything more than a bunch of great songs.

― jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 31 October 2005 23:04 (twenty years ago)

Why the freak out, Nick?!?

Also, I will now only see daylight between 7.45 and 8.15 AM when I leave for work. I already miss the incredibly yellow evening light of Brooklyn, it makes all the buildings look like little color-ovens, radiating BROWN BRICK-NESS. Hopper wasn't kidding!

― Laurel (Laurel), Monday, 31 October 2005 23:10 (twenty years ago)

For a second I thought you meant Jessica instead of Edward.

― jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 31 October 2005 23:16 (twenty years ago)

It always takes me about a week to adjust to daylight savings, and in the meantime, all I want to eat are potatoes and cheese and cheesey potatoes. And the occasional cream based soup, preferably cream of potato with cheese melted on top.

― pullapartgirl (pullapartgirl), Tuesday, 1 November 2005 00:05 (twenty years ago)

Why would "Popular" be inappropriate?

Because of the angry thing he does at the end... "If you follow these simple rules, you can sleep with ALL THE BOYS IN THE WORLD!" I don't want to tell her she's a slut, yaknow.

― Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Tuesday, 1 November 2005 00:34 (twenty years ago)

Yeah, see, I would never assume that a song on a mix was supposed to SEND A SECRET MESSAGE. But lots of people do, I understand.

― jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 1 November 2005 00:40 (twenty years ago)

Girls do.

― Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Tuesday, 1 November 2005 00:51 (twenty years ago)

But I probably underestimate Jessa. She'll probably think it's funny. And why am I bothering to be so careful anyway?

― Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Tuesday, 1 November 2005 00:52 (twenty years ago)

Is a talkbox different from a vocoder?

― Eazy (Eazy), Tuesday, 1 November 2005 03:11 (twenty years ago)

HIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIII!

I'm drunk. I really like all of you and hope that you are having a magical evening.

― F.R.I.E.N.D. (nordicskilla), Tuesday, 1 November 2005 03:36 (twenty years ago)

Royksopp!!!

― F.R.I.E.N.D. (nordicskilla), Tuesday, 1 November 2005 03:36 (twenty years ago)

Listen to Royksopp!!

― F.R.I.E.N.D. (nordicskilla), Tuesday, 1 November 2005 03:37 (twenty years ago)

Which one?

― jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 1 November 2005 04:13 (twenty years ago)

Adam, be my F.R.I.E.N.D. I am being incredibly nerdy and listening to Aaron Copland's Cuban overture right now.

― jocelyn (Jocelyn), Tuesday, 1 November 2005 04:16 (twenty years ago)

Adam, I decided to go with Melody A.M. on account of it being the only one I own.

― jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 1 November 2005 04:17 (twenty years ago)

But I see you have moved onto something called "Amp Fiddler." Hmmm.

― jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 1 November 2005 04:18 (twenty years ago)

fair enough. copeland's cuban overture, i don't believe we have met

hahahah - YOU WTAHC me on audicscorebel!

― F.R.I.E.N.D. (nordicskilla), Tuesday, 1 November 2005 04:19 (twenty years ago)

Recommend me some new music Adam and John.

― jocelyn (Jocelyn), Tuesday, 1 November 2005 04:23 (twenty years ago)

i don't know what you like, jocely.

― F.R.I.E.N.D. (nordicskilla), Tuesday, 1 November 2005 04:23 (twenty years ago)

maybe you would like kelley polar because that has storgngs and you liemcl,assilcla.

― F.R.I.E.N.D. (nordicskilla), Tuesday, 1 November 2005 04:23 (twenty years ago)

Adam, I decided to go with Melody A.M. on account of it being the only one I own.
get teh undetanaging you foo!

― F.R.I.E.N.D. (nordicskilla), Tuesday, 1 November 2005 04:24 (twenty years ago)

I didn't like The Understanding when I listened to it.

Yes, Kelley Polar is good stuff. Although I put it on while Renee was over the other day, helping me clean my apartment, and she shook her head. I said, "Too gay?" She said, "Yes."

― jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 1 November 2005 04:26 (twenty years ago)

storgngs?

― jocelyn (Jocelyn), Tuesday, 1 November 2005 04:28 (twenty years ago)

are you goj f out with renne? it dthought oyu rweren't!

― F.R.I.E.N.D. (nordicskilla), Tuesday, 1 November 2005 04:29 (twenty years ago)

I didn't like The Understanding when I listened to it.

stoposid!

― F.R.I.E.N.D. (nordicskilla), Tuesday, 1 November 2005 04:29 (twenty years ago)

storgngs?
S-T-R-I-N-G-S

― F.R.I.E.N.D. (nordicskilla), Tuesday, 1 November 2005 04:30 (twenty years ago)

Does anyone know if -jel- is okay? I'm kinda worried about him and was wondering if anyone knew his IM.

― jocelyn (Jocelyn), Tuesday, 1 November 2005 04:30 (twenty years ago)

Strings. It's an electro-pop album with vocals and real strings. Kelley Polar studied at Julliard, so he often brings a classical sensibility to the music. There's also gorgeous multi-tracked harmonies that sometimes sound choral.

― jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 1 November 2005 04:31 (twenty years ago)

Also: I hang out with Renee a lot, but we're no longer dating anymore. Story of my life.

― jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 1 November 2005 04:31 (twenty years ago)

Oh, guy Kelley!

― jocelyn (Jocelyn), Tuesday, 1 November 2005 04:31 (twenty years ago)

Girls TOTALLY read into mix tapes. And girls also totally send secret messages in the mixes they make for others. I made Jeff a CD before we were dating that I should have called "HEY YOU'RE CUTE LET'S DO IT" because that's pretty much what I was trying to convey with my song selection.

And you can see that it totally worked.

― pullapartgirl (pullapartgirl), Tuesday, 1 November 2005 04:32 (twenty years ago)

what is wornmg with jel? he is my north(west) lonfdon buddy!

― F.R.I.E.N.D. (nordicskilla), Tuesday, 1 November 2005 04:32 (twenty years ago)

I think his real name is something like Mike Kelley, but Kelley Polar is his recording name.

What's up with jel? Why are you worried?

― jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 1 November 2005 04:32 (twenty years ago)

ia hev delaine-tomororow for story proposal for ucla. that is whgat i am wornking on RIGHT NOW.

― F.R.I.E.N.D. (nordicskilla), Tuesday, 1 November 2005 04:32 (twenty years ago)

Also: I hang out with Renee a lot, but we're no longer dating anymore. Story of my life.

*shakes head knowingly*

― Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Tuesday, 1 November 2005 04:34 (twenty years ago)

He's made a few oblique comments to someone close to him suffering from cancer and he mentioned that Christmas is going to be awful this year. I really like his posts and was thinking of sending him a little Xmas present and was wondering if anyone else wanted to join in.
john for what it's worth I think you are very handsome.

― jocelyn (Jocelyn), Tuesday, 1 November 2005 04:34 (twenty years ago)

― jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 1 November 2005 04:34 (twenty years ago)

is hes the gilr in the what do yohj look liempictur?

xp john IS handome and jel is great!

― F.R.I.E.N.D. (nordicskilla), Tuesday, 1 November 2005 04:34 (twenty years ago)

also jocelyn is girl hansdome

ummm.

― F.R.I.E.N.D. (nordicskilla), Tuesday, 1 November 2005 04:35 (twenty years ago)

hha

― F.R.I.E.N.D. (nordicskilla), Tuesday, 1 November 2005 04:35 (twenty years ago)

What girl in the WDYLL picture?

jocelyn is pretty, it's true.

― jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 1 November 2005 04:35 (twenty years ago)

Adam, you are inspiring me to crack open a beer, even though I am super-tired and feeling bloated.

― jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 1 November 2005 04:36 (twenty years ago)

I feel like I'm drunk. I think it's a combination of too much coffee and Reese's cups.

― jocelyn (Jocelyn), Tuesday, 1 November 2005 04:37 (twenty years ago)

jocelyn is pretty, it's true.

Also, kinda awesome.

I am having a beer. Join me.

― Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Tuesday, 1 November 2005 04:38 (twenty years ago)

Awww. It's like I go into ILX night mode and start babbling on about personal stuff.

― jocelyn (Jocelyn), Tuesday, 1 November 2005 04:38 (twenty years ago)

I will. I only have one left, though.

Kenan, did you empty the trash on my desktop the other day?

― jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 1 November 2005 04:39 (twenty years ago)

(I am kind of enjoying this late-shift Chicago thread!)

― jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 1 November 2005 04:39 (twenty years ago)

i ahe v oe ber, only wine - wa swhote now red.

― F.R.I.E.N.D. (nordicskilla), Tuesday, 1 November 2005 04:42 (twenty years ago)

was white now only red. i will type slowly now.

― F.R.I.E.N.D. (nordicskilla), Tuesday, 1 November 2005 04:43 (twenty years ago)

royksopp! again!

― F.R.I.E.N.D. (nordicskilla), Tuesday, 1 November 2005 04:43 (twenty years ago)

I don't think so, John. Not unless it was some knee-jerk impulse, which it may have been, so I can't deny it, and if so I'm sorry. I do empty my own desktop trash in a kind of an OCD way.

― Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Tuesday, 1 November 2005 04:43 (twenty years ago)

Guten Nacht!

― jocelyn (Jocelyn), Tuesday, 1 November 2005 04:44 (twenty years ago)

No, it's cool, there wasn't anything important or anything. Just when I went to look in it, it was totally empty, and I know I hadn't emptied it in months, probably.

Night, j!

― jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 1 November 2005 04:44 (twenty years ago)

drunken typos are endearing adn charming though!

xp gnight jocelyn

― Juulia (julesbdules), Tuesday, 1 November 2005 04:45 (twenty years ago)

Night, jocelyn.

I only have one left, though.

I have five! I do not aspire to catch with Adam, tho.

― Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Tuesday, 1 November 2005 04:45 (twenty years ago)

Just when I went to look in it, it was totally empty, and I know I hadn't emptied it in months, probably.

Yeah, that was probably me. Being brainless. Sorry. I really do have this weird thing where I like to keep the desktop trash TOTALLY EMPTY AT ALL TIMES, like it's messy not to or something. Like it's going to start to smell.

― Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Tuesday, 1 November 2005 04:47 (twenty years ago)

Right now, I am trying to see if I can pare down a ballot for the 80s music poll...

― jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 1 November 2005 04:47 (twenty years ago)

no more polls!

― F.R.I.E.N.D. (nordicskilla), Tuesday, 1 November 2005 04:48 (twenty years ago)

I know.

― jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 1 November 2005 04:50 (twenty years ago)

I will probably give up.

― jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 1 November 2005 04:50 (twenty years ago)

I would agree, but there are some killer albums on that nomination list.

― Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Tuesday, 1 November 2005 04:51 (twenty years ago)

damn, i look at lists that long adn my eyes just cross. i'm not drinking, i'm just fuckign exhausted, the typos are much less fun that way.

― Juulia (julesbdules), Tuesday, 1 November 2005 04:51 (twenty years ago)

Has anyone else listened to the new Depeche Mode album? I just had to poke my head in on ILM and go, "Um, sorry, but what's the big deal?"

― Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Tuesday, 1 November 2005 04:55 (twenty years ago)

And have you read that totally cock-slurping AMG review of it? "Playing the Angel is both the band's best album since Violator and, more significantly, an album that is near Violator in stature." Oh, pooh. It's nothing of the kind.

― Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Tuesday, 1 November 2005 04:58 (twenty years ago)

nah. i'm only just getting into violator. it's just ned and dan perry being psychologically unsound, as per usual.

― F.R.I.E.N.D. (nordicskilla), Tuesday, 1 November 2005 04:58 (twenty years ago)

I narrowed my singles down to 150. Yeah, this ain't gonna happen.

Adam, I bought Violator the other day! Partially because you mentioned it when we were AIM'ing.

― jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 1 November 2005 04:59 (twenty years ago)

See, I don't know if I'd be able to get into Violator now. I love it because it's as familiar and worn as a favorite sweater. A sweater that's still stylish, even.

― Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Tuesday, 1 November 2005 05:00 (twenty years ago)

Partially because you mentioned it when we were AIM'ing.

i don't rmemeber saying that!

― F.R.I.E.N.D. (nordicskilla), Tuesday, 1 November 2005 05:01 (twenty years ago)

Also, I guess, because "Policy of Truth" is one of my all-time favorite songs. It's like it's saying, "Suck on THIS, Tainted Love!"

― Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Tuesday, 1 November 2005 05:02 (twenty years ago)

i hope that in an hour i will have finished this fucking proposal, so taht i can get high and listen to ipod.

― F.R.I.E.N.D. (nordicskilla), Tuesday, 1 November 2005 05:02 (twenty years ago)

Oh, but the thing about Violator, Kenan, is that I already know half of it.

Adam, I said that the beginning of "Here is the Night" by Kelley Polar reminded me of "Enjoy the Silence," and you said "Yeah! Violator is a great album! ... Oops, gotta go, in-laws!"

― jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 1 November 2005 05:03 (twenty years ago)

oh yeah, that!

haha

― F.R.I.E.N.D. (nordicskilla), Tuesday, 1 November 2005 05:04 (twenty years ago)

Oh, but the thing about Violator, Kenan, is that I already know half of it.

Oh, no kidding. Six of its eight songs were singles. It's one of those albums.

― Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Tuesday, 1 November 2005 05:04 (twenty years ago)

kenan

you're secretlyOLD, aren;t you?

― F.R.I.E.N.D. (nordicskilla), Tuesday, 1 November 2005 05:05 (twenty years ago)

yes.

― Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Tuesday, 1 November 2005 05:07 (twenty years ago)

knew uit

― F.R.I.E.N.D. (nordicskilla), Tuesday, 1 November 2005 05:07 (twenty years ago)

My anthem.

― Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Tuesday, 1 November 2005 05:15 (twenty years ago)

ah yes, jay jay johanson. His first two records are classic.

― F.R.I.E.N.D. (nordicskilla), Tuesday, 1 November 2005 05:18 (twenty years ago)

I've never heard of this chap! I like that song, though.

― jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 1 November 2005 05:19 (twenty years ago)

It's the Funkstorung remix that really drives it home. That beat is so so sick. SICK, I say.

― Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Tuesday, 1 November 2005 05:23 (twenty years ago)

Jay Jay is BIG in France. This is where I developed a taste for him - living in France.

― F.R.I.E.N.D. (nordicskilla), Tuesday, 1 November 2005 05:31 (twenty years ago)

John, I cannot presently find my list of important phone numbers. What's yours again?

― Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Tuesday, 1 November 2005 05:32 (twenty years ago)

http://www.amazon.fr/exec/obidos/ASIN/B00004USQB/qid=1130823126/sr=1-9/ref=sr_1_10_9/402-6249567-0019353

― F.R.I.E.N.D. (nordicskilla), Tuesday, 1 November 2005 05:32 (twenty years ago)

5 étoiles sur 5 melankolie, 22 février 2002
Commentaire de : francois_haller de toulouse france
même si cet homme est un grand "pessimiste"de l'amour,il demeure quoi qu'il advienne d'un romantisme à toutes épreuves ,en distillant une musique ennivrante, stilée et à l'épreuve des larmes.En un mot : somptueux.

― F.R.I.E.N.D. (nordicskilla), Tuesday, 1 November 2005 05:32 (twenty years ago)

Sumptous?

― Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Tuesday, 1 November 2005 05:34 (twenty years ago)

I'm guessing that says, "In a word: ..." Something.

― Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Tuesday, 1 November 2005 05:34 (twenty years ago)

it looks so much cooler in french.

― Juulia (julesbdules), Tuesday, 1 November 2005 05:36 (twenty years ago)

Everything does. Foregone conclusion.

― Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Tuesday, 1 November 2005 05:39 (twenty years ago)

Presque minuit.

― Eazy (Eazy), Tuesday, 1 November 2005 05:42 (twenty years ago)

oui il est.

― Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Tuesday, 1 November 2005 05:46 (twenty years ago)

douze minutes

― Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Tuesday, 1 November 2005 05:48 (twenty years ago)

this confuses me, plz translate:

"5 étoiles sur 5 melankolie, 22 février 2002"

Five stars out of five... something other than stars? What?

Melankolie and the infinite confusion.

― Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Tuesday, 1 November 2005 05:50 (twenty years ago)

Oh man, Maddie and I had a last zombie hurrah tonight. We zombied up and went to see the ZOMBEATLES, who of course play Beatles songs like zombies. I cut my fucking hand up on a GUITAR THEY SMASHED. I am fucking durnk.

Mix tapes: a girl at work wants me to make her a "really cool jazz mixtape". Is she necessarily hitting on me?

― Jordan (Jordan), Tuesday, 1 November 2005 06:59 (twenty years ago)

I downloaded K's song from upthread, and yes the beat is hot. Breakdow, whooh!

― Jordan (Jordan), Tuesday, 1 November 2005 07:00 (twenty years ago)

Good morning, Chicago . . . Although I was not reading this thread last night, I did listen to Royksopp on a whim.

Happy November.

― kelsey (kelstarry), Tuesday, 1 November 2005 14:29 (twenty years ago)

Ugh, NOVEMBER? I don't even remember February. I don't really remember much of anything that happened this year before June.

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Tuesday, 1 November 2005 14:37 (twenty years ago)

It's All Souls Day. Does anyone in America celebrate this anymore? (Apart from Dia de los Muertos celebrations)

― jocelyn (Jocelyn), Tuesday, 1 November 2005 14:41 (twenty years ago)

I have a soul! Can I join in?

― Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Tuesday, 1 November 2005 14:48 (twenty years ago)

Amanda, I'll bring pita tomorrow.

Kenan, are you All Soul?

― kelsey (kelstarry), Tuesday, 1 November 2005 14:49 (twenty years ago)

Cool -- thanks Kelsey!! I'll take care of the rest. Don't worry about dinner. (It takes long enough to get to my place, the least I can do is feed you when you get there.)

Today I am wearing character shoes that I found (clean)in the trash.
http://www.freemotion.com/media/CharacterShoes

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Tuesday, 1 November 2005 14:54 (twenty years ago)

Listen, they were hard times! I had to take what I could get.

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Tuesday, 1 November 2005 15:00 (twenty years ago)

I love it!

― kelsey (kelstarry), Tuesday, 1 November 2005 15:09 (twenty years ago)

I think that maybe I should have been drunk on this thread.

Good morning.

― giboyeux (skowly), Tuesday, 1 November 2005 15:10 (twenty years ago)

Why are they called character shoes? I like them though. They look like tap shoes.

It is a million degrees at my desk today and gorgeous outside.

Je voudrais ecrire plus en francais parce que je dois le pratiquer.

How do you put accents on letters when typing?

― Kittens Licking Cakes (coco), Tuesday, 1 November 2005 15:11 (twenty years ago)

Moi, je simplement copie les accent d'un autre page, mais ca bouge lentement -- et donc, alors, aujourd'hui ici je dit - abandonnons les accents totalement.

― Eazy (Eazy), Tuesday, 1 November 2005 15:13 (twenty years ago)

Things left at our house after the Halloween party:
Bag of curiously tiny glow-in-the-dark plastic skull rings: Jenny
Several horror movies on DVD: Jeff & Jenny (this was intentional though)
Almost full pack of cigarettes and a lighter: John
Furry bear hat: John
Cell phone: Jenny
Half of a tiny bottle of white wine that was part of her costume: Robin

― n/a (Nick A.), Tuesday, 1 November 2005 15:13 (twenty years ago)

I think it's because they're generic-looking shoes (that often have taps attached) that (female) characters in musicals wear for comfortable dancing. That's a guess. There are different heel heights too. I was obsessed with dancer's shoes for a while. Remember when we were discussing fantasy careers? The ones we never had? I was going to be a dancer. [sigh]

I have no idea how to put accents on letters in here -- if someone figures it out, do tell. I'd like to know too.

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Tuesday, 1 November 2005 15:14 (twenty years ago)

Too bad Robin didn't leave her boobs.

― Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Tuesday, 1 November 2005 15:18 (twenty years ago)

You know... those boobs she brought?

― Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Tuesday, 1 November 2005 15:18 (twenty years ago)

We watched that zombie movie that takes place in the British countryside last night and it was good but I kept being distracted by the fact that the main dude looks EXACTLY like M@TT Pri3st but with long hippie hair and a hippie beard.

― n/a (Nick A.), Tuesday, 1 November 2005 15:20 (twenty years ago)

Speaking of boobs, I watched The Wicker Man last night and loved loved loved it.

Policeman: "You have naked young girls junping through fires!"
Christopher Lee: "Well, you can't jump through a fire with your clothes on! It's not safe!"

― Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Tuesday, 1 November 2005 15:21 (twenty years ago)

Il y a trop de sucrerie dans le bureau aujourd'hui. J'en ai apporte aussi. La majorite est chocolat. D'accord, j'aime beaucoup le chocolat, mais je ne veux pas manger trop de lui.

Someone at the party asked if I did ballet. She said I have a dancer's body. :-D

― Kittens Licking Cakes (coco), Tuesday, 1 November 2005 15:24 (twenty years ago)

WICKER MAN!! Yaay. I highly recommend the soundtrack -- the song at the end, "Sumer is a-comin' in" is soooooooo spooky. Proudly sing cuckoo. It's purportedly the first real song written in English. At least that's what the liner notes said. Everyone should see this movie before that bastard Nicholas Cage ruins it.

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Tuesday, 1 November 2005 15:30 (twenty years ago)

Well. Good morning, Chicago. Not drunk anymore.

The Wicker Man is awesome. The hippie zombie movie is less so, but still good. You just have to work a little harder. Who's Matt Pr13st?

― Jordan (Jordan), Tuesday, 1 November 2005 15:30 (twenty years ago)

What's the countryside movie you guys are talking about?

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Tuesday, 1 November 2005 15:31 (twenty years ago)

M@tt Pri3st is the singer from Canasta.

― n/a (Nick A.), Tuesday, 1 November 2005 15:35 (twenty years ago)

I knew I left the cigarettes at your house. That's fine. Give them to a friend. I don't need to be smoking so much.

― jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 1 November 2005 15:37 (twenty years ago)

Kenan, do you still need my phone number? I can e-mail it to you...

― jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 1 November 2005 15:38 (twenty years ago)

Haha, I'll have to watch that movie again with that in mind.

I think the title is Let Sleeping Corpses Lie?

― Jordan (Jordan), Tuesday, 1 November 2005 15:39 (twenty years ago)

Also, Kenan I emailed you my flickr name and you never friended me. :(

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Tuesday, 1 November 2005 15:39 (twenty years ago)

Kenan, I waited all night at the Des Plaines oasis for you.

― Eazy (Eazy), Tuesday, 1 November 2005 15:41 (twenty years ago)

WHAT ABOUT PROM KENAN?

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Tuesday, 1 November 2005 15:41 (twenty years ago)

I love that oasis.

― Jordan (Jordan), Tuesday, 1 November 2005 15:42 (twenty years ago)

Is that the oasis that goes over the interstate?
I have several pairs of character shoes and pointe shoes, somewhere.
I wish we had craigslist for little old Lafayette, I have lots of shoes and stuff I want to sell and don't want to hassle with eBay.

― jocelyn (Jocelyn), Tuesday, 1 November 2005 15:53 (twenty years ago)

I'm so sorry.

I filled your nice thread with horrible gibberish.

― F.R.I.E.N.D. (nordicskilla), Tuesday, 1 November 2005 15:55 (twenty years ago)

I'd just like to put a word in for Walprofen - the Walgreen's generic Ibuprofen. It is doing the good lord's work on my head today.

― F.R.I.E.N.D. (nordicskilla), Tuesday, 1 November 2005 15:57 (twenty years ago)

Yeah, it's the oasis that use to house the Wendy's in the sky, but now has gyros and giant Spongebobs.

xpost, me too, Adam. Me too.

― Jordan (Jordan), Tuesday, 1 November 2005 15:58 (twenty years ago)

I wanted to stop at that Oasis (because it was in the sky!) when I was about 12 but my parents told me it would be filthy and roach infested. O how my young dreams were crushed.
x-post
I am a big fan of Walgreens' Aleve as well. It's the cure for all back pain.

― jocelyn (Jocelyn), Tuesday, 1 November 2005 16:01 (twenty years ago)

Aren't all highway oases in the sky? There's the one just across the Indiana border that has a Popeye's, I think.

― jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 1 November 2005 16:08 (twenty years ago)

Indiana!

― F.R.I.E.N.D. (nordicskilla), Tuesday, 1 November 2005 16:09 (twenty years ago)

You've been there. (Are your Christmas plans firming up at all?)

― jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 1 November 2005 16:10 (twenty years ago)

ihttp://www.dvdbeaver.com/comparisons/comparisons/l_m/letsleepingcorpseslie/invasion_de5.JPG
http://www.italiansoundtracks.com/images/400/japsleepingcorpses.gif

― n/a (Nick A.), Tuesday, 1 November 2005 16:10 (twenty years ago)

I've been to that Popeye's, on the way to NYC I think.

― Jordan (Jordan), Tuesday, 1 November 2005 16:10 (twenty years ago)

That's the dude who looks like Matt, BTW.

― n/a (Nick A.), Tuesday, 1 November 2005 16:15 (twenty years ago)

I hate to say it, but Leaf & I both don't like the wicker man. we make fun of it.

― kelsey (kelstarry), Tuesday, 1 November 2005 16:15 (twenty years ago)

Oooh, snap -- first I was burned by Jaymc at the Halloween party and now this? My ego is in pieces.

Wait a second. No it's not. People can like and dislike whatever they please. I'm a big fan of liking-what-I-like.

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Tuesday, 1 November 2005 16:19 (twenty years ago)

I've never seen this film. I don't think I was aware of it until recently.

Wait, Amanda, what did I say?

― jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 1 November 2005 16:20 (twenty years ago)

It straddles a fine line between "it's fun to make fun of" and actually being a good movie.

― Jordan (Jordan), Tuesday, 1 November 2005 16:20 (twenty years ago)

(I mean, I'm sure I said a lot of stupid shit.)

― jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 1 November 2005 16:20 (twenty years ago)

Are your Christmas plans firming up at all?

Yes, I am probably doing the same thing as last year. We were talking about this just this morning. I would love to come and do chicago things but I fear a backlash after turning up on your threads and talking crap and being creepy.

― F.R.I.E.N.D. (nordicskilla), Tuesday, 1 November 2005 16:21 (twenty years ago)

Adam, you don't understand just how much we love you.

― jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 1 November 2005 16:22 (twenty years ago)

I do, at least. Fuck the haters.

― jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 1 November 2005 16:23 (twenty years ago)

i think it's a bad movie. kitchy, though.

― kelsey (kelstarry), Tuesday, 1 November 2005 16:24 (twenty years ago)

The haters? Oh no, who are they?

― F.R.I.E.N.D. (nordicskilla), Tuesday, 1 November 2005 16:24 (twenty years ago)

Show of hands.

― giboyeux (skowly), Tuesday, 1 November 2005 16:27 (twenty years ago)

It's not a biggie -- don't worry. I'm really not serious about being burned. It was during the Steely Dan conversation.

I still think that Husker Du are good and that The Wicker Man is a genuinely classic, spooky movie. I even like the parts where Willow's sexual initiation of a young man is compared to snails doing it. The maypole scene is classic too!

In other news, I am a fan of Adam's presence here.

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Tuesday, 1 November 2005 16:28 (twenty years ago)

The good news: we can all still be friends.

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Tuesday, 1 November 2005 16:29 (twenty years ago)

Oh. Husker Du. That's right.

I feel like I've been unnecessarily belligerent the last few times we've all hung out. I don't like that.

― jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 1 November 2005 16:30 (twenty years ago)

I am pro-Adam, although less and less so, as I wait for my grimer.

Grimer.

― giboyeux (skowly), Tuesday, 1 November 2005 16:32 (twenty years ago)

I love you, Adam.

― Jordan (Jordan), Tuesday, 1 November 2005 16:33 (twenty years ago)

Jordan - I actually want to ask you a question -- have you heard of the Gangbe' Brass Band? They are from Benin. I haven't heard their music but some writing on them made them sound fantastic.

― F.R.I.E.N.D. (nordicskilla), Tuesday, 1 November 2005 16:34 (twenty years ago)

Adam, you have been absolved of creepiness. And drunkness is welcomed in Chicago. Maybe a little too welcome...

HEY, so guess what? We found a space for our little Walmart movie and it's going to be GREAT. I'll find out the exact date today or tomorrow and invite everybody. It's free!!! But I really need a laptop projector to borrow.

Does anyone where have a laptop projector that I can borrow or know somebody with one or know where I can rent one?

― pullapartgirl (pullapartgirl), Tuesday, 1 November 2005 16:38 (twenty years ago)

Surely school has one that can be rented out by students, right? Maybe from the a/v department in the library? I hope I can attend this movie. I'm overdue for some do-gooder activity.

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Tuesday, 1 November 2005 16:40 (twenty years ago)

Believe it or not, my mom got me that cd. I didn't like it at first when I was thinking "brass band" because a) they're very saxophone-heavy and jazzy rather than wall-of-brass, and b) I was comparing them to New Orleans bands. However it's a pretty interesting fusion of jazz and non-typical African rhythms, if you think you would be into that.

― Jordan (Jordan), Tuesday, 1 November 2005 16:41 (twenty years ago)

Gangbe played in WL last week and I missed them!
I am in favor of Adam, although I still don't know him from er Adam

― jocelyn (Jocelyn), Tuesday, 1 November 2005 16:42 (twenty years ago)

I found a picture of Adam:

http://www.bible-study-online.juliantrubin.com/imagesbible/adam-and-eve.jpg

― Jordan (Jordan), Tuesday, 1 November 2005 16:45 (twenty years ago)

I basically look like the opposite of that guy.

― F.R.I.E.N.D. (nordicskilla), Tuesday, 1 November 2005 16:51 (twenty years ago)

Pony up with some photos, kid.

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Tuesday, 1 November 2005 16:53 (twenty years ago)

http://static.flickr.com/8/11837776_93aeafe106_m.jpg

― F.R.I.E.N.D. (nordicskilla), Tuesday, 1 November 2005 16:55 (twenty years ago)

Nice suit.

― Jordan (Jordan), Tuesday, 1 November 2005 16:57 (twenty years ago)

Thanks! It's Ralph Lauren.

― F.R.I.E.N.D. (nordicskilla), Tuesday, 1 November 2005 16:59 (twenty years ago)

[trumanswater.jpg]

― jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 1 November 2005 17:05 (twenty years ago)

Sorry I'm late to the party re oases:

http://static.flickr.com/33/58582154_73dc301965_m.jpg

― Laurel (Laurel), Tuesday, 1 November 2005 17:05 (twenty years ago)

I'm lost. Why would Eazy wait for me all night anywhere, least of all in Des Plains?

― Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Tuesday, 1 November 2005 17:10 (twenty years ago)

Well, I was going to drive you and Amanda to prom, apparently.

― Eazy (Eazy), Tuesday, 1 November 2005 17:22 (twenty years ago)

Forget it. We're not going now. Just forget it OK? [storms off]

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Tuesday, 1 November 2005 17:23 (twenty years ago)

j'ai trop de chocolat aussi, sarah, et je ne peux pas le manger! le chocolat me donne les jitteries (c'est ma franglais, cet mot) beaucoup beaucoup beaucoup y je ne peux pas les tolerer.

avec les accents, il y a trop de travail avec un laptop, alors je ne les essay pas. ce semble trop complique.

are oases a midwestern thing? i'd never seen them anywhere else...

― Juulia (julesbdules), Tuesday, 1 November 2005 17:25 (twenty years ago)

I think they're an "outside Chicago" thing!! We don't have them in MI, I don't think.

― Laurel (Laurel), Tuesday, 1 November 2005 17:27 (twenty years ago)

Driving from VA to Chicago, I don't think Oases started popping up until Indiana. Before that, they are "rest stops" or you have to pull off into little towns.

― n/a (Nick A.), Tuesday, 1 November 2005 17:40 (twenty years ago)

What is that one chain restaurant that is at all "rest stops" in the midwest?

― F.R.I.E.N.D. (nordicskilla), Tuesday, 1 November 2005 17:42 (twenty years ago)

hardee's! curly fries!

― Juulia (julesbdules), Tuesday, 1 November 2005 17:43 (twenty years ago)

yeah, could be hardee's. We only stop because my father in law has a hella weak bladder.

― F.R.I.E.N.D. (nordicskilla), Tuesday, 1 November 2005 17:44 (twenty years ago)

Il y a aussi des 'oases' en Pennsylvanie, je crois, avec Panera. Maintenant il y a beaucoup de chocolat post-Halloween dans mon bureau. Je ne veux plus travailler ici!

― Eazy (Eazy), Tuesday, 1 November 2005 17:51 (twenty years ago)

Eric is making a case for himself as the M. White of Chicago.

― jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 1 November 2005 17:54 (twenty years ago)

No tengo nada que decir en Espanol, pero cuando lo tenga, lo escribire aqui tan pronto como pueda.

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Tuesday, 1 November 2005 18:01 (twenty years ago)

Is Eric tall? Does he wear scarves and white suits?

― F.R.I.E.N.D. (nordicskilla), Tuesday, 1 November 2005 18:03 (twenty years ago)

He is always surrounded by women, isn't he? He's got that part down.

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Tuesday, 1 November 2005 18:04 (twenty years ago)

y ahora ma pauvre mente es muy confundida con lenguas variosas.

― Juulia (julesbdules), Tuesday, 1 November 2005 18:04 (twenty years ago)

He olvidado tanto español.

― jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 1 November 2005 18:07 (twenty years ago)

My dream as a teenager was to sell a short story to a high-paying magazine and buy a white suit with the income, but I never got that white suit.

― Eazy (Eazy), Tuesday, 1 November 2005 18:07 (twenty years ago)

http://www.beatrice.com/wolfe2.jpg

― jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 1 November 2005 18:08 (twenty years ago)

Instead of my parents finding Playboy in my bedroom, they found my rejection letter from the fiction editor of Playboy.

― Eazy (Eazy), Tuesday, 1 November 2005 18:09 (twenty years ago)

FF album name suggestions. Go:

― n/a (Nick A.), Tuesday, 1 November 2005 18:14 (twenty years ago)

(We are having intense interband emails on this subject today.)

― n/a (Nick A.), Tuesday, 1 November 2005 18:17 (twenty years ago)

Whoah, E is totally Chi's M White!

xpost: FF album -- Awesome Party!

― giboyeux (skowly), Tuesday, 1 November 2005 18:18 (twenty years ago)

FF - "A kitten in a marshmallow basket"

― F.R.I.E.N.D. (nordicskilla), Tuesday, 1 November 2005 18:24 (twenty years ago)

FF - "Das Autobahn"

― F.R.I.E.N.D. (nordicskilla), Tuesday, 1 November 2005 18:24 (twenty years ago)

I have trashed most of Sarah's album name suggestions as being "too twee."

― n/a (Nick A.), Tuesday, 1 November 2005 18:28 (twenty years ago)

I don't think we're a particularly twee band!

― n/a (Nick A.), Tuesday, 1 November 2005 18:29 (twenty years ago)

FF - "Eat My Fist"

― F.R.I.E.N.D. (nordicskilla), Tuesday, 1 November 2005 18:31 (twenty years ago)

"Nevermatter"

― F.R.I.E.N.D. (nordicskilla), Tuesday, 1 November 2005 18:31 (twenty years ago)

"The Wise Album"
"Stoat's Head Soup"
"Fake Fictions Explore Your Mind"

― F.R.I.E.N.D. (nordicskilla), Tuesday, 1 November 2005 18:32 (twenty years ago)

You guys are a little twee. But maybe it would be best to counterbalance that with a hard image!

FF - "Twelve Limbs of Death"

― Jordan (Jordan), Tuesday, 1 November 2005 18:34 (twenty years ago)

"Don't U Wish U Were a Fake Fiction"

― Jordan (Jordan), Tuesday, 1 November 2005 18:34 (twenty years ago)

"Can't Fake the Fiction"

― Jordan (Jordan), Tuesday, 1 November 2005 18:34 (twenty years ago)

Fake Fictions - "Real Essays"

― Jordan (Jordan), Tuesday, 1 November 2005 18:36 (twenty years ago)

Fake Fictions - "The Norton Critical Edition"

― jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 1 November 2005 18:37 (twenty years ago)

"Chicago Hospitality"

― Jordan (Jordan), Tuesday, 1 November 2005 18:40 (twenty years ago)

I think I've fallen asleep during every one of those zombie movies we left over there.

― Jeff-PTTL (Jeff), Tuesday, 1 November 2005 18:40 (twenty years ago)

and suspira

― Jeff-PTTL (Jeff), Tuesday, 1 November 2005 18:40 (twenty years ago)

The Fake Fictions - Des Plaines Oasis
The Fake Fictions - Shenandoah Rotgut
The Fake Fictions - Dude, You Really Were Set Up
The Fake Fictions - The Road to the Ice Factory
The Fake Fictions - Plants and...

― Eazy (Eazy), Tuesday, 1 November 2005 18:41 (twenty years ago)

The Fake Fictions - "Chicago's Greatest Hits: 1982-1989"

― Jordan (Jordan), Tuesday, 1 November 2005 18:43 (twenty years ago)

The 'New Answers' page is full of good titles:

The Fake Fictions - How to Get Rid of Earache...Your Suggestions
The Fake Fictions - White Trick-or-Treaters in Blackface
The Fake Fictions - Fireworks in the Hands of the General Public
The Fake Fictions - Fall Fashion
The Fake Fictions - Winter Accessories 2005-6
The Fake Fictions - ¼õËÙ»ú

― Eazy (Eazy), Tuesday, 1 November 2005 18:51 (twenty years ago)

http://www.panix.com/~rbean/oasis/

i was just trying to think of another oasis other than des plaines, hinsdale, lake forest, or o'hare.

the fake fictions- "somptueux" (i just like that word)

― Juulia (julesbdules), Tuesday, 1 November 2005 18:52 (twenty years ago)

"Lightly salted" potato chips are still pretty salty.

The Fake Fictions - "Lightly Salted"
The Fake Fictions - "Still Pretty Salty"

― Jordan (Jordan), Tuesday, 1 November 2005 18:56 (twenty years ago)

Fake Fictions: Faux Fur (to continue the FF theme)
Fake Fictions: The Big Book of Ghost Stories

― jocelyn (Jocelyn), Tuesday, 1 November 2005 19:03 (twenty years ago)

The Fake Fictions - "False Fables"

― Jordan (Jordan), Tuesday, 1 November 2005 19:09 (twenty years ago)

I like Faux Fur.

― n/a (Nick A.), Tuesday, 1 November 2005 19:13 (twenty years ago)

Fake Fictions: Turn Back U Poxy Fule.
Fake Fictions: Amo Amas Amat

― jocelyn (Jocelyn), Tuesday, 1 November 2005 19:17 (twenty years ago)

Fake Fictions: Rolling on 24s and speaking the truth about the damn game

― F.R.I.E.N.D. (nordicskilla), Tuesday, 1 November 2005 19:19 (twenty years ago)

FF - Boo!

― F.R.I.E.N.D. (nordicskilla), Tuesday, 1 November 2005 19:19 (twenty years ago)

Fake Fictions: "Goosepimple Pie"
Fake Fictions: "One In Twenty"
Fake Fictions: "Trapped in the Closet (Chapter 1)"
Fake Fictions: "Who's Hotdog is That?"
Fake Fictions: "Just When You Thought You Were Safe"
Fake Fictions: "When the Pawn Hits the Conflicts He Thinks Like a King . . ."

― kelsey (kelstarry), Tuesday, 1 November 2005 19:26 (twenty years ago)

Fake Fictions - Counterfeit Chronicles

― Jordan (Jordan), Tuesday, 1 November 2005 19:27 (twenty years ago)

FF - Woof!
FF - Meow!
FF - Ribbit!

― F.R.I.E.N.D. (nordicskilla), Tuesday, 1 November 2005 19:28 (twenty years ago)

The Fake Fictions - "Confuses Biting With Affection"

― Jordan (Jordan), Tuesday, 1 November 2005 19:28 (twenty years ago)

Fake Fictions: Nick & Sarah & Ben & Farfisa

― jocelyn (Jocelyn), Tuesday, 1 November 2005 19:30 (twenty years ago)

The Fake Fictions - "Chicagoland Strutter's Ball"

― Jordan (Jordan), Tuesday, 1 November 2005 19:31 (twenty years ago)

The Fake Fictions - "Mister Whiskers"

― Eazy (Eazy), Tuesday, 1 November 2005 19:32 (twenty years ago)

I like the album title that is a declarative sentence.

"The Fake Fictions Lose Their Keys"

"The Fake Fictions Get Really Small"

― Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Tuesday, 1 November 2005 19:34 (twenty years ago)

Fake Fictions: Popcorn
Fake Fictions: Elementary Trapeze
Fake Fictions: Going Out
Fake Fictions: The Literary Tradition

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Tuesday, 1 November 2005 19:35 (twenty years ago)

Fake Fictions: Short Stories

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Tuesday, 1 November 2005 19:35 (twenty years ago)

Fake Fictions: Bildungsroman

― jocelyn (Jocelyn), Tuesday, 1 November 2005 19:37 (twenty years ago)

The Fake Fictions - Dutch Diction

― Eazy (Eazy), Tuesday, 1 November 2005 19:39 (twenty years ago)

FF: Wurlitzer Prize

― kelsey (kelstarry), Tuesday, 1 November 2005 19:39 (twenty years ago)

I actually really like "Short Stories"! Maybe "Short Stories by the Fake Fictions"?

― n/a (Nick A.), Tuesday, 1 November 2005 19:40 (twenty years ago)

FF: denouement

― kelsey (kelstarry), Tuesday, 1 November 2005 19:41 (twenty years ago)

FF: Books Grow On Trees

― kelsey (kelstarry), Tuesday, 1 November 2005 19:42 (twenty years ago)

I was sure you would have already thought of that one! I felt a little dumb posting it.

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Tuesday, 1 November 2005 19:42 (twenty years ago)

FF: Meat Pants

― pullapartgirl (pullapartgirl), Tuesday, 1 November 2005 19:43 (twenty years ago)

"The Fake Fictions Order Seconds" (with a cover image of you all sitting at some terrible little diner. Steve's, maybe.)

"The Fake Fictions Eat A Whole Pig" (imagine the cover!)

― Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Tuesday, 1 November 2005 19:43 (twenty years ago)

I was about to say that I really like Short Stories. And now I'm saying it.

"The Fake Fictions Tell Short Stories"

― Jordan (Jordan), Tuesday, 1 November 2005 19:44 (twenty years ago)

The worst ones I thought of:

FF: Smell Ya Later
FF: Honky Chapeau
FF: Arnold's Dream Unicorn

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Tuesday, 1 November 2005 19:45 (twenty years ago)

"the fake fictions wear furry hats"

― Juulia (julesbdules), Tuesday, 1 November 2005 19:45 (twenty years ago)

FF: This One's For Real
FF: Fo' Real

― kelsey (kelstarry), Tuesday, 1 November 2005 19:46 (twenty years ago)

You Can't Kill The Fake Fictions

― Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Tuesday, 1 November 2005 19:47 (twenty years ago)

FF: Smell Ya Later
FF: Honky Chapeau
FF: Arnold's Dream Unicorn

YARG! I laughed in class!

― pullapartgirl (pullapartgirl), Tuesday, 1 November 2005 19:49 (twenty years ago)

The following people of note have made an album called "Short Stories":

Harry Chapin
Jon and Vangelis
C0nnie Grauer (of Milwaukee-based lesbian jazz duo Mrs. Fun)
Kronos Quartet
Kenny Rogers
Evan Parker
Bob Berg
Fred Hersch

But no well-known rock bands!

― Jordan (Jordan), Tuesday, 1 November 2005 19:49 (twenty years ago)

We can talk about something else now if you guys want.

― n/a (Nick A.), Tuesday, 1 November 2005 19:50 (twenty years ago)

Two-Fistin' with The Fake Fictions

― Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Tuesday, 1 November 2005 19:50 (twenty years ago)

We can't, apparently.

― Jordan (Jordan), Tuesday, 1 November 2005 19:55 (twenty years ago)

Mrs. Fun -- for reals?

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Tuesday, 1 November 2005 19:56 (twenty years ago)

http://www.mrsfun.com/bio.html

― Jordan (Jordan), Tuesday, 1 November 2005 19:59 (twenty years ago)

They've collaborated with the Indigo Girls.

― Jordan (Jordan), Tuesday, 1 November 2005 20:00 (twenty years ago)

I see that.

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Tuesday, 1 November 2005 20:02 (twenty years ago)

New thread!

Chicago Twenty 1

― Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Tuesday, 1 November 2005 20:02 (twenty years ago)

Actually I was really into them in middle school, mostly because the drummer is fantastic. Also, lesbians.

― Jordan (Jordan), Tuesday, 1 November 2005 20:06 (twenty years ago)

Well, that's nice. No new thread. Permanently crippled thread.

― Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Tuesday, 1 November 2005 20:17 (twenty years ago)

Are people still posting on the other thread? I am completely unable to do anything on it.

― Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Tuesday, 1 November 2005 20:19 (twenty years ago)

Can we clean up the mess and start over? What would we do, baby, without us? Sha la la la la.

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Tuesday, 1 November 2005 20:19 (twenty years ago)

Yeah, I'll start a new one.

― jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 1 November 2005 20:21 (twenty years ago)

That thread is doing wacky things I do not understand.

― pullapartgirl (pullapartgirl), Tuesday, 1 November 2005 20:26 (twenty years ago)

glad i'm not the only one. i click on it & it is nothing but a giant spaceman.

― kelsey (kelstarry), Tuesday, 1 November 2005 20:26 (twenty years ago)

I banned jon from the noize board as retaliation. Probably won't last long but oh well. "JUST A BIT OF FUN, BE COOL"

― n/a (Nick A.), Tuesday, 1 November 2005 20:27 (twenty years ago)

Maybe we should start a CHICAGO BOARD if single threads are so annoying.

― Jordan (Jordan), Tuesday, 1 November 2005 20:28 (twenty years ago)

I mean, I'd like to read some of them, but its just a monolithic thread of xposted inreferences. By all means, make a Chiacgo board!

― Alex in Novosibirsk (ex machina), Tuesday, 1 November 2005 20:29 (twenty years ago)

Oh whatever. Who called the Fun Police?

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Tuesday, 1 November 2005 20:31 (twenty years ago)

Jon, do you feel the same way about the Glasgow and Australia/NZ threads?

― jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 1 November 2005 20:32 (twenty years ago)

(Also, I'm not sure a Chicago board would be fruitful, necessarily, because I don't think we're particularly interested in having different thread topics: we like the loose, associative conversation that typifies these threads.)

― jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 1 November 2005 20:33 (twenty years ago)

Can we just not talk about this? Who cares?

― n/a (Nick A.), Tuesday, 1 November 2005 20:34 (twenty years ago)

That's what I'm sayin'.

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Tuesday, 1 November 2005 20:35 (twenty years ago)

Nick, are you hstencil?

― jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 1 November 2005 20:35 (twenty years ago)

I think you're right, jaymc, but it would be kinda funny to have a board consisting only of Chicago threads.

― Jordan (Jordan), Tuesday, 1 November 2005 20:36 (twenty years ago)

Take two.

― jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 1 November 2005 20:37 (twenty years ago)

Yes, I am hstencil. I like jon, but his opinion of the Chicago threads is irrelevant and I'd rather just cut the discussion off than turn it into a 300-post barrage of stuff I won't read.

― n/a (Nick A.), Tuesday, 1 November 2005 20:38 (twenty years ago)

ironing!

― Alex in Novosibirsk (ex machina), Tuesday, 1 November 2005 20:41 (twenty years ago)

My favorite of everyone's titles is 'Wurlitzer Prize'.

― Eazy (Eazy), Tuesday, 1 November 2005 20:43 (twenty years ago)

Jon, if the Chicago threads bore or confuse you, then maybe it's not really meant for you. I mean, you kind of said that to me when I was sputtering exasperatedly about the Noise Board upon its inception.

The Chicago thread isn't really about Chicago, it's just a place for us Chicagoans, most of whom know each other in real life (and some of whom post almost exclusively on this thread), to hang out during the day. You're welcome to read it, of course, and even post to it, but I can't promise it will always be interesting or fun for you -- that's not really the point.

― jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 1 November 2005 20:47 (twenty years ago)

They don't bore me. Obv. they aren't here to amuse me, but I mean it'd be nice for people to be able to approach them and read something interesting without 300 different "funny jokes", xposts and shit ruining everything.

― Alex in Novosibirsk (ex machina), Tuesday, 1 November 2005 20:49 (twenty years ago)

I don't know what you mean by "funny jokes."

The abundance of xposts is because it's a popular thread, go fig.

― jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 1 November 2005 20:51 (twenty years ago)

"ruining everything"

wtf?!

anyway, thanks, eric. that was my suggestion!

― kelsey (kelstarry), Tuesday, 1 November 2005 20:52 (twenty years ago)

Now who's ironing?

― n/a (Nick A.), Tuesday, 1 November 2005 20:53 (twenty years ago)

SINCE THIS ISN'T THE PICKLE BAR...

YEAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
― Alex in Novosibirsk (ex machina), Tuesday, 1 November 2005 20:54 (twenty years ago)

i don't know what that means, if you're directing that at me.
but seriously, half the threads on ILX are "ruined" by multiple xposts & banter about stuff.
― kelsey (kelstarry), Tuesday, 1 November 2005 20:54 (twenty years ago)

― n/a (Nick A.), Tuesday, 1 November 2005 20:56 (twenty years ago)

Hello?

I liked Faux Fur and Confuses Biting with Affection. Actually, I liked a lot of those suggestions.

― Kittens Licking Cakes (coco), Tuesday, 1 November 2005 21:28 (twenty years ago)

Hey Sarah!

― kelsey (kelstarry), Tuesday, 1 November 2005 21:32 (twenty years ago)

Did you like Meat Pants?

How about Peat Mants or Meta Pants?

― pullapartgirl (pullapartgirl), Tuesday, 1 November 2005 21:35 (twenty years ago)

Pam Nattes

― jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 1 November 2005 21:43 (twenty years ago)

Staten Map
Stamp Ante

― jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 1 November 2005 21:44 (twenty years ago)

"funny jokes"

― jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 1 November 2005 21:44 (twenty years ago)

why, hello.

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Tuesday, 1 November 2005 21:54 (twenty years ago)

hey amanda.

i should be doing work, but suddenly the day is dragging on & on.

― kelsey (kelstarry), Tuesday, 1 November 2005 22:00 (twenty years ago)

The thing is... I'm kind of easy to please. IN fact, working with and for people who are so PARTICULAR about everything with such high STANDARDS (read - picky) has increased this feeling.

― Kittens Licking Cakes (coco), Tuesday, 1 November 2005 22:01 (twenty years ago)

Hey guess what? I went to Tokyo Lunchbox for dinner. And it was good! There was a fly in my soup, and that was kind of a bummer, but I enjoyed my yellow tail and scallion roll very much.

― pullapartgirl (pullapartgirl), Tuesday, 1 November 2005 23:43 (twenty years ago)

Fun.

Guess what! The Il. Entertainer says Lass0 the M00n (the 1st track on the FF ep) is ATROCIOUS! They used that word. My vocals are off-key and the beat is B0ring. Bastard.

I got to work 30 minutes early to bring coffee to my boss since I got in trouble for letting it run out here and he's not even in yet!

― Kittens Licking Cakes (coco), Wednesday, 2 November 2005 13:52 (twenty years ago)

Ok, so another coworker just came in and I overheard her on the phone with someone saying, "Listen, yeah, there's no coffee here. Yeah, I'm going to have to run out and get it myself." She knew we were out of coffee. So I said, "Hey! I already got coffee for *Boss*!" and I hold up this huge (venti) coffee. So she looks at it and gets back on the phone, "YEah, she only got one for *Boss*, only one, yeah... ok." Then she gets off the phone and calls another coworker, the one whose position I took when she got promoted, and told her to buy coffee for the whole office. Obviously, she expected I would do that. Now I feel bad because there's no reason my coworker should have to do my job, but at the same time, I CAN'T FUCKING AFFORD TO BUY STARBUCKS FOR EVERYONE IN THE OFFICE, even if I did make a mistake. Urgh. I wish I could go home.

― Kittens Licking Cakes (coco), Wednesday, 2 November 2005 14:14 (twenty years ago)

Atrocious?!?!?!?! Everyone in the office?
Sarah, tonight you will enjoy the company of your coven, eat falafel and laugh your sorrow away. I promise.

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Wednesday, 2 November 2005 14:18 (twenty years ago)

Also, I was banned from the noise board for boasting about the size of my penis. WTF? I thought that was required for entry, not reason for banishment.

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Wednesday, 2 November 2005 14:19 (twenty years ago)

If you really want, I can unban you.

― jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 2 November 2005 14:21 (twenty years ago)

Not really. I don't care. But that's ridiculous. I just want a place to chat throughout the day. If I can chat here, that's preferable.

I have massive static cling today.

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Wednesday, 2 November 2005 14:23 (twenty years ago)

I say let's give it a couple days before starting a new thread. If that doesn't work, then we can take a page from "try glasgow more" and keep this thread going for 5000+ posts. It is the Greatest Hits, after all.

― jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 2 November 2005 14:29 (twenty years ago)

No more gigs in Lombard for the Fake Fictions now!

― Eazy (Eazy), Wednesday, 2 November 2005 14:30 (twenty years ago)

Sarah I used to work at a place like that and I understand. The formeer co-workers also never understood why I didn't want to go out to $12 a martini places with them.

― jocelyn (Jocelyn), Wednesday, 2 November 2005 14:35 (twenty years ago)

Not really. I don't care. But that's ridiculous.

You gotta shake it off.
Shake, shake, shake, shake shakeshake it off.

― Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Wednesday, 2 November 2005 14:44 (twenty years ago)

Are you quoting Mariah?

― jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 2 November 2005 14:46 (twenty years ago)

'course.

― Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Wednesday, 2 November 2005 14:46 (twenty years ago)

Don't make me quote Usher. I'll fucking do it.

― Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Wednesday, 2 November 2005 14:47 (twenty years ago)

So, basically, CIH was bitching about not getting her fix fast enough. Then she told me boss man wasn't coming in for at least another hour. So I was like, Hey, his coffee is getting cold, why don't you just drink his? She says, I GUESS I can heat that up to tide me over. Of course, he comes in like 15 minutes later and I don't have any coffee for him.

Enough about that. I'm sorry. I'm just really grumpy this morning. I made Nick leave the house 45 minutes earlier to get this damn coffee and in the end it looks like I did nothing. Then I am having this mini family crisis. My mom bought a ticket to Va (she's now in Memphis) for when I'm there during thanksgiving even though I asked her not to because I was going to spend some time alone with my dad (they're divorced). And my dad was all excited about showing me his new-to-him house and city and going christmas shopping with me. And then I read that stupid review.

*deep breaths*

― Kittens Licking Cakes (coco), Wednesday, 2 November 2005 14:50 (twenty years ago)

In the end, the coworker whose position I took when she was promoted was called at home and asked to bring in coffee for everyone, which she did, even though it made her really late for an appointment. So I'm sure she's annoyed at me too. And I'm sure I'm expected to do that tomorrow (coffee's not getting here until tomorrow afternoon).

I feel like chanting that bit from The Burbs:
Satan is good. Satan is my power. I wanna kill.. everyone

― Kittens Licking Cakes (coco), Wednesday, 2 November 2005 15:15 (twenty years ago)

Why did I get myself a pumpkin spice latte? I am crazy in the cabeza. Someone, throw water on me.

― Kittens Licking Cakes (coco), Wednesday, 2 November 2005 15:16 (twenty years ago)

Sucks to have all that happen at once, S. - sorry. And bad reviews always suck. A NY drama critic once wrote that I had written "a slice of life crying out for butter, cheese, or meat."

― Eazy (Eazy), Wednesday, 2 November 2005 15:16 (twenty years ago)

That sucks about the review, Sarah, they don't get it. I was going to link a famously bad review of the last Mama Digd0wn's record here from a local college paper, but it doesn't look like it's online anymore. What's the Entertainer, anyway?

And does your office usually provide free coffee for everyone?

― Jordan (Jordan), Wednesday, 2 November 2005 15:19 (twenty years ago)

That's pretty bad, Eazy, but at least your bad review was well written! :-D

Yeah, Jordan. We have Seattle's Best coffee and a decent coffeemaker.

― Kittens Licking Cakes (coco), Wednesday, 2 November 2005 15:21 (twenty years ago)

I don't really care about the Ill. Ent. review, it's the fucking Ill. Ent. And the track they singled out as being really bad was the same one that the Punk Planet review singled out as being the best song, so fuck 'em. The IE is a lame free local music monthly.

― n/a (Nick A.), Wednesday, 2 November 2005 15:22 (twenty years ago)

I think maybe I need to take a little break from ILX. Probably won't last long at all, but email me if anything exciting or important comes up.

― n/a (Nick A.), Wednesday, 2 November 2005 15:25 (twenty years ago)

The IE is a lame free local music monthly
Word to that. I don't know that I've ever read it, to be honest.

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Wednesday, 2 November 2005 15:26 (twenty years ago)

Chicagoland's #1 source for tribute-band listings. And good for local band PR, but nothing to get too hurt by, either.

― Eazy (Eazy), Wednesday, 2 November 2005 15:28 (twenty years ago)

He was probably just hungry, Eazy.

― Jordan (Jordan), Wednesday, 2 November 2005 15:33 (twenty years ago)

Wow, Sarah, I'm sorry your morning is off to a craptastic start. Tonight will be something to look forward to, though! I will be bringing BAKLAVA! I know what you mean about the pumpkin spice latte, I had one & 1/2 way through I was all, "wtf?" it got gross.
today i splurged & got a plain soy latte from the joint across the street. the coffee shop that has a real espresso machine & not the automatic shot one like most starbucks have. it tastes way better.

i woke up this morning to massive cramps. i started to get them last night, took two advil & slept under a heating pad. this morning, they were back & taking vengence on my uterus. needless to say, i did not ride my bike into work today. instead i'm wearing cowboy boots & drinking lattes.

― kelsey (kelstarry), Wednesday, 2 November 2005 15:36 (twenty years ago)

I like the pumpkin lattes, and I think Jenny has my back (or rather I have her back) here.

It's amazing how much bills can cost after you don't pay them for three months.

― Jordan (Jordan), Wednesday, 2 November 2005 15:45 (twenty years ago)

The pumpkiny Jamba Juice is worth trying.

― Eazy (Eazy), Wednesday, 2 November 2005 15:47 (twenty years ago)

I like the pumpkin lattes. I tried a gingerbread latte today and it was good for the first half and disappointing for the second.
That reminds me, I have to mail the student loan bill in my bag.

― jocelyn (Jocelyn), Wednesday, 2 November 2005 15:48 (twenty years ago)

I don't really like flavored coffee that much -- it ends up tasting like pureed pie with coffee in it, like a coffee-pie smoothie, which sort of oogs me out. Lately I've been drinking black coffee.

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Wednesday, 2 November 2005 15:53 (twenty years ago)

Chai tea, three bags, milk and a packet of splenda.

― Jeff-PTTL (Jeff), Wednesday, 2 November 2005 15:59 (twenty years ago)

I'm chilling out a little now. My frenchie married sis emailed a bunch of pix of her with her husband's extended relatives, all kids. They are very cute. They have names like Fabien and Francois.

― Kittens Licking Cakes (coco), Wednesday, 2 November 2005 16:01 (twenty years ago)

Ugolin?

― jocelyn (Jocelyn), Wednesday, 2 November 2005 16:35 (twenty years ago)

So, pumpkin lattes, fine. But how do y'all feel about cramps? That's the pressing issue.

kidding.

Jocelyn, if you lived in Chicago, you'd be force fed some ANTM tonight! And some of Amanda's falafel!

― kelsey (kelstarry), Wednesday, 2 November 2005 16:38 (twenty years ago)

Cramps? I'm against them.

― Jordan (Jordan), Wednesday, 2 November 2005 16:48 (twenty years ago)

I secretly like ANTM. Although the representation of Indiana last season (Michelle?)was a hose beast. I haven't seen any of this season but I check the web site.

― jocelyn (Jocelyn), Wednesday, 2 November 2005 16:54 (twenty years ago)

Which reminds me -- Jenny? Any interest in visiting the Kr4us Haus tonight for a little falafel-and-modeling? GIRLZ ONLY.

Also, I'm against cramps as well. I don't get them that bad, but I used to. Actually, as far as pain goes, I prefer cramps to a headache every day of the week.

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Wednesday, 2 November 2005 16:57 (twenty years ago)

Modeling!

― Eazy (Eazy), Wednesday, 2 November 2005 16:59 (twenty years ago)

It's impossible to have a guy's night, because I would just end up drinking myself into oblivion.

― Jeff-PTTL (Jeff), Wednesday, 2 November 2005 17:02 (twenty years ago)

but i do that in mixed company too.

― Jeff-PTTL (Jeff), Wednesday, 2 November 2005 17:03 (twenty years ago)

i was watching old ANTM on vh1 last night and got to wondering whatever happened with adrienne, though of course she's prob a successful model and whatever. i don't actually care enough to look it up. i keep thinking i should avoid watching that show, and then watch it anyway, mostly in reruns.

i'm not a big fan of pumpkin flavored things, but a good pumpkin pie, not too sweet and not too heavily spiced, oh so good.

― Juulia (julesbdules), Wednesday, 2 November 2005 17:04 (twenty years ago)

Guy's night - booze, weed, and video games!

― Jordan (Jordan), Wednesday, 2 November 2005 17:17 (twenty years ago)

I'll bring the Zep.

― Eazy (Eazy), Wednesday, 2 November 2005 17:19 (twenty years ago)

I'd be down with some video games, since I don't have any consoles. But I bet you guys don't like sports games. I played so much Madden 97 in college.

― Jeff-PTTL (Jeff), Wednesday, 2 November 2005 17:31 (twenty years ago)

Hahaha, welcome to the gender ghetto. I have to say though, that I thoroughly LOVE all-girls nights/events. It might be juvenile of me, but I don't care. I love it.

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Wednesday, 2 November 2005 17:35 (twenty years ago)

Are you kidding about Adrienne? Seen The Surreal Life or My Fair Brady, also on VH1? Yikes.

― lawmclawlaw, Wednesday, 2 November 2005 17:38 (twenty years ago)

Right. She's doin' Peter Brady!

― kelsey (kelstarry), Wednesday, 2 November 2005 17:48 (twenty years ago)

I am a video-game novice. Booze and weed are okay by me, though!

― jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 2 November 2005 17:52 (twenty years ago)

I admit to enjoying a bottle of beer, a hit or two off the bubbler, and a game of Halo 2 sniper battle a bit too much for being a "respectable" 27-year-old "professional."

― Df'nM (OutDatWay), Wednesday, 2 November 2005 18:44 (twenty years ago)

Or, you know, an evening of that sort of thing. Once in a while.

― Df'nM (OutDatWay), Wednesday, 2 November 2005 18:46 (twenty years ago)

I'm 30 and I still like slumber parties. Join the club.

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Wednesday, 2 November 2005 18:46 (twenty years ago)

Just getting buzzed and being repeatedly pwn3d by 8th graders with names like "1337F4gKiLlA" or "xXxrapTORxXx."

xpost Slumber parties are good too. Conditions have to be right, though.

― Df'nM (OutDatWay), Wednesday, 2 November 2005 18:48 (twenty years ago)

Slumber parties these days more or less means "I'm too drunk and tired to go home, can I crash on your sofa and then stumble out before you wake up and take the bus?"

I am totally in favor of all-girl slumber parties, though.

― jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 2 November 2005 18:50 (twenty years ago)

The slumber parties I partake in usually involve my friends from back home I've known for a million years, lots of booze, someone's family cottage, fireworks, childish innuendo, and a sauna. Mix and repeat.

― Df'nM (OutDatWay), Wednesday, 2 November 2005 18:52 (twenty years ago)

The best are all-girl slumber parties with the following elements:
*telling secrets
*prank calls
*pizza
*cookies/brownies
Coordinated dance routines, booze and crying optional.

Has anyone else ever seen that documentary called Girls Alone? It's about a group of 12 year old girls in England who are placed in a house for a period of time (2 weeks?) without adult supervision? It's really good. I don't remember much about it specifically, except there were a lot of dirty dishes and a LOT of drama.

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Wednesday, 2 November 2005 18:57 (twenty years ago)

12-16 yr old girls are terrifying.

― Jordan (Jordan), Wednesday, 2 November 2005 19:00 (twenty years ago)

As of this weekend, I'm living in an all-girl slumber party.

― Eazy (Eazy), Wednesday, 2 November 2005 19:02 (twenty years ago)

It's pretty much only when I play poker (with theater guys and the E1ectrica1 crowd) that I hang out with a group of more than three guys without any gals around. It's good. I'm a little slow on making ass jokes, but I'm learning.

― Eazy (Eazy), Wednesday, 2 November 2005 19:04 (twenty years ago)

Theater guys make ass jokes?

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Wednesday, 2 November 2005 19:05 (twenty years ago)

The group of middle-aged character-actors/playwrights/directors I play with do - ass, ass, ass.

― Eazy (Eazy), Wednesday, 2 November 2005 19:06 (twenty years ago)

People should play truth-or-dare more often, so life is more like a slumber party.

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Wednesday, 2 November 2005 19:12 (twenty years ago)

But then it wouldn't be special.

― jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 2 November 2005 19:14 (twenty years ago)

That's true.

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Wednesday, 2 November 2005 19:18 (twenty years ago)

I'll take dare.

― kelsey (kelstarry), Wednesday, 2 November 2005 19:20 (twenty years ago)

Ok, I dare you to "accidentally" touch the butt of someone in your office and then report back to us on what happened.

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Wednesday, 2 November 2005 19:22 (twenty years ago)

No tenure for Kelsey!

― Eazy (Eazy), Wednesday, 2 November 2005 19:25 (twenty years ago)

Just as an aside: what kind of butt-touch are we talking about? Just a brush-up, or full-on cupping? Or something in between?

― Df'nM (OutDatWay), Wednesday, 2 November 2005 19:49 (twenty years ago)

Hey Amanda! Thanks for the invitation! I love watching catty TV shows with ladies, and I love falafel, but I can't do much this week except for study and sleep, and I'm not sleeping as much as I might like. So I would probably come over, stressfully pick at some falafel because I am too worried about not studying to enjoy myself, and then fall asleep on your couch.

Maybe next time, though!

― pullapartgirl (pullapartgirl), Wednesday, 2 November 2005 19:53 (twenty years ago)

Note: fourfour has EXCELLENT ANTM recaps.

― pullapartgirl (pullapartgirl), Wednesday, 2 November 2005 19:57 (twenty years ago)

If you can't, you can't. I understand. (Even though I have a midterm tomorrow and probably ought to be studying instead of hosting a party tonight, I've been studying on the train, at my desk, while I eat and I hope that's enough for right now.)

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Wednesday, 2 November 2005 20:01 (twenty years ago)

If it was just the dead tired or just the must study, I could handle it, but the dead tired plus the nonstop studying is destroying my will to live a little bit.

― pullapartgirl (pullapartgirl), Wednesday, 2 November 2005 20:03 (twenty years ago)

I relationship to the slumber party talk, I would just like to mention that there is a new version of MALL MADNESS out.

― jocelyn (Jocelyn), Wednesday, 2 November 2005 20:25 (twenty years ago)

Jenny - Just remember [cue Chariots of Fire] -- you are on a noble quest for worker justice. It'll all be worth it soon. ("it" will be worth "it")

(This is a revised version of the speech I'm giving myself twice daily to motivate for comps.)

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Wednesday, 2 November 2005 20:29 (twenty years ago)

Hey Sarah -- don't let me forget to give you the Goblin CD I made for you and N. It's still fun to listen to, even if it's not Halloween. REMIND ME!!

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Wednesday, 2 November 2005 20:37 (twenty years ago)

I think I cut my tongue a little bit on a piece of granola.

― Jordan (Jordan), Wednesday, 2 November 2005 20:37 (twenty years ago)

Jenny, Leaf's getting geared up for exams shortly & our phone conversations have gone from chatty, fun banter to sleepy, brief recaps of our lives. Sucks.

― kelsey (kelstarry), Wednesday, 2 November 2005 20:45 (twenty years ago)

OMG Kelsey, do you have this?

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000BI5MQS/102-8477305-0115351?v=glance&n=130&n=507846&s=dvd&v=glance

― Jordan (Jordan), Wednesday, 2 November 2005 20:59 (twenty years ago)

the Black Rod Serling,Alfred Hitchcock&Chaplin, November 2, 2005
Reviewer: mistermaxxx@yahoo.com "mistermaxxx" (usa) - See all my reviews

the whole Trapped in the closet Saga is the greatest Video Event&story telling in Modern Pop Music for the 21rst Century. R.kelly is the Musical Genius of our time.He has no Peers.the concepts,Humor,Musical darings nobody comes close. the story-line here goes into so many directions.he goes where no other R&B Artist has dared go.R.kelly should Win Grammys,American Music Awards,Tonys,Golden Globes&A Oscar for this commanding&Ground-breaking Movie. His Rod Sterling Concept of Narrative is Ahead of it's time. His Alfred Hitchcock ability to story tell&you listen to his Voice along with His Vision is Incredible. the Charlie Chaplin Element is the fact that One Man came up with all the msuic,roles,story line,etc..... R.kelly is the Most complete Artist in America&Goes where no other Artist dares go.I dug the Siskel&Rupper the film Critics.the Brother brings a strogn Left Field vibe here.Ain't nobody else like Him Creatively.He is the Baddest Musician on the Planet.Hollywood better watch out because Kels just might take over Hollywood on the Big Screen as well.Bro Man got Creative ideas to making a Motion Picture that could be Huge.can't wait for chapters 13-22.the Brother never ceases to Amaze me.He is the Only Musical Artist that I have heard who should Be cloned.He always gives you a full 180 Degree spi&turn. APPLAUSE To The Genius of Robert S.KELLY!!!!!!!!

― jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 2 November 2005 21:02 (twenty years ago)

Jordan, my cd came with a DVD of Chapters 1-5!!!!!

― kelsey (kelstarry), Wednesday, 2 November 2005 21:02 (twenty years ago)

that review pains me. i seriously can't move on with such dreadful punctuation. i had to skim it.

― kelsey (kelstarry), Wednesday, 2 November 2005 21:03 (twenty years ago)

Me too, but I haven't seen/heard any of the later ones!

― Jordan (Jordan), Wednesday, 2 November 2005 21:04 (twenty years ago)

His Rod Sterling Concept of Narrative is Ahead of it's time.

I am still trying to make sense of this.

― jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 2 November 2005 21:04 (twenty years ago)

It's a reference to Rod Sterling, the conceptionist. Or. Something.

Too bad I wasn't in the mood to party, I could've brought the dvd to N & S's house!!

― kelsey (kelstarry), Wednesday, 2 November 2005 21:06 (twenty years ago)

That's like a mobius strip, Jaymc.

― Eazy (Eazy), Wednesday, 2 November 2005 21:06 (twenty years ago)

So Rod Serling hosted 'The Twilight Zone' in the 1950s, and R. Kelly creates a story 50 years later in the same tradition, and yet it's Kelly who is ahead of his time.

"You are travelling through space, another time, another dimension..." -- as if Serling actually did his work in the future, under R. Kelly's influence, and then sent it back to the 1950s...

― Eazy (Eazy), Wednesday, 2 November 2005 21:08 (twenty years ago)

Is the closet the entrance to the Twilight Zone?

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Wednesday, 2 November 2005 21:09 (twenty years ago)

The videos are pretty great. I'd recommend listening to the chapters without the visual first & then following up with the dvd. Of course, this is only if you can stomach the Concept of Narrative twice.

eeks. I am out of it. I didn't realize Rod Sterling was a man with a vision.

― kelsey (kelstarry), Wednesday, 2 November 2005 21:09 (twenty years ago)

The central image of the Twilight Zone pinball machine, at least, is a time-travelling closet.

― Eazy (Eazy), Wednesday, 2 November 2005 21:10 (twenty years ago)

Maybe this reviewer is a genius, ahead of our time.

― kelsey (kelstarry), Wednesday, 2 November 2005 21:11 (twenty years ago)

I disagree with the reviewer, however -- I think the greater influence on R. Kelly must have been C.S. Lewis and 'The Lion, The Witch, and The Wardrobe'.

― Eazy (Eazy), Wednesday, 2 November 2005 21:11 (twenty years ago)

Siskel and Rupper should really pick this shit up.

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Wednesday, 2 November 2005 21:12 (twenty years ago)

Does Siskel still review films from the grave?

― jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 2 November 2005 21:14 (twenty years ago)

I also disagree with the reviewer on cloning R. Kelly.

― kelsey (kelstarry), Wednesday, 2 November 2005 21:14 (twenty years ago)

oh john. you knew what amanda meant.

― kelsey (kelstarry), Wednesday, 2 November 2005 21:15 (twenty years ago)

Ebert and Roeper...

Siskel and Reaper!

― Eazy (Eazy), Wednesday, 2 November 2005 21:16 (twenty years ago)

Yes, in the morning they look and see how many thumbs are sticking up from the ground.

― jocelyn (Jocelyn), Wednesday, 2 November 2005 21:16 (twenty years ago)

No, I wasn't sure: I thought maybe Siskel and Rupper was some bizarro-world Twilight Zone-esque version of Ebert and Roeper!

― jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 2 November 2005 21:17 (twenty years ago)

Siskel and Reaper made me roffle for some reason.

― Jordan (Jordan), Wednesday, 2 November 2005 21:27 (twenty years ago)

My point was there is no Siskel! And no Rupper! HAR HAR HAR.

Thumbs. Ground. Hahahaa.

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Wednesday, 2 November 2005 21:27 (twenty years ago)

It always used to bother me when people would make knowing references to ...At the Movies by saying "I give this film TWO THUMBS UP!" -- and not realize that the "two thumbs" actually stands for two people's individual thumbs, not a measure of how much one person likes it (i.e., "I give this film TWO THUMBS UP, but this other ne is only ONE THUMB UP.").

― jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 2 November 2005 21:36 (twenty years ago)

So are you over that now?

― kelsey (kelstarry), Wednesday, 2 November 2005 21:42 (twenty years ago)

No, not really.

― jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 2 November 2005 21:45 (twenty years ago)

Perhaps Ebert and Roeper should extend their range to a total of four thumbs, two for each man, thus giving us a more nuanced feeling for the true quality of any given film.

― F.R.I.E.N.D. (nordicskilla), Wednesday, 2 November 2005 21:49 (twenty years ago)

Thumbs of the underlings need to represent, that's why we count both.

― kelsey (kelstarry), Wednesday, 2 November 2005 21:53 (twenty years ago)

I think that Ebert and Roeper should be replaced by a bunch of frat boys and sorority girls who should be asked to cheer and scream for how much they enjoyed a film. Then a scream-o-meter can appear as an ident at the corner of the picture indicating how well it fared.

― F.R.I.E.N.D. (nordicskilla), Wednesday, 2 November 2005 21:57 (twenty years ago)

This is inspired by my brother's idea that all sports commentary should be replaced by a drumbeat that would increase in bpm as the game got more tense/exciting.

― F.R.I.E.N.D. (nordicskilla), Wednesday, 2 November 2005 21:58 (twenty years ago)

Two thumbs down: 1 star
Left thumb up, right thumb down: 2 stars
Right thumb down, left thumb up: 3 stars
Two thumbs up: 4 stars

With sideways thumbs for half-stars.

― Eazy (Eazy), Wednesday, 2 November 2005 21:58 (twenty years ago)

The proposed continuum:
Kinda good
Sorta good
Pretty good
Good
Not that good
Really not that good
Kinda bad
Shitty

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Wednesday, 2 November 2005 21:59 (twenty years ago)

Oh, I like that idea of the BPM sports commentary! But with all the stop/start of football and baseball, I dunno...

― Eazy (Eazy), Wednesday, 2 November 2005 22:00 (twenty years ago)

When thumbs cannot suffice, just go for the full-on oy gevalt:
http://www.popculturecorn.com/print/stories/00/images/inline/hatedmovie-cover.jpg

xp yes, doesn't really work for American sports. Terribly sorry, old chap, you need a game that doesn't stop for at least 45 minutes.

― F.R.I.E.N.D. (nordicskilla), Wednesday, 2 November 2005 22:03 (twenty years ago)

I'm reading that Maureen Dowd article now...

― jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 2 November 2005 22:08 (twenty years ago)

Snap!

― kelsey (kelstarry), Wednesday, 2 November 2005 22:09 (twenty years ago)

Kinda good
Sorta good
Pretty good
Good
Not that good
Really not that good
Kinda bad
Shitty

That isn't a continuum! You put GOOD in the middle!

― giboyeux (skowly), Wednesday, 2 November 2005 22:14 (twenty years ago)

Can everyone just choose a different day to pick on me and tell me I'm a dumbass? There are seven days in a week, that should provide plenty of options for all of your busy schedules.

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Wednesday, 2 November 2005 22:20 (twenty years ago)

...Christ, that was depressing (the Dowd article).

― jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 2 November 2005 22:21 (twenty years ago)

http://biomechanics.bio.uci.edu/_html/nh_biomech/pufferfish/Natural%20History%20Magazine_files/1001_biomechanics_files/1001_biomech2.jpg

Sorry!

― giboyeux (skowly), Wednesday, 2 November 2005 22:26 (twenty years ago)

AMANDA I LOVE YOU.

That's a great picture!!!!

― kelsey (kelstarry), Wednesday, 2 November 2005 22:30 (twenty years ago)

Profess love for Amanda, Kill a Thread.

Night all.

― kelsey (kelstarry), Wednesday, 2 November 2005 22:59 (twenty years ago)

I LOVE AMANDA, TOO!

― pullapartgirl (pullapartgirl), Wednesday, 2 November 2005 23:03 (twenty years ago)

It feels kind of foreign in its depiction of men, doesn't it, Jaymc?

― Eazy (Eazy), Wednesday, 2 November 2005 23:26 (twenty years ago)

Link?

― Jordan (Jordan), Wednesday, 2 November 2005 23:28 (twenty years ago)

Here.

Yeah, but mostly it's depressing because it goes back to that whole thing I got into trouble for a few weeks ago -- bemoaning the idea of relationships as a "game" to be manipulated and strategized.

― jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 2 November 2005 23:31 (twenty years ago)

I can't handle all that business about "if he actually lets me pay, that's when I know it's over."

― jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 2 November 2005 23:33 (twenty years ago)

I really liked Becky Smith's point on Hopper's blog, though, about the article describing a particular category of upper-middle-class East Coast professionals.

It's weird: between this and Jon Williams's friend's rant about Chicago and my own experience in New York six weeks ago, I've been feeling far more conscious than ever about the differences between the Midwest and the East Coast.

― jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 2 November 2005 23:37 (twenty years ago)

I know exactly what you're saying - I feel like paying for someone's time and company is kind of like paying for a lapdance - very different from exchanging gifts, literally and abstractly, which is more what friendship is about (cf. Lewis Hyde).

The 'game' approach makes relationships out to be completely different from friendships (i.e., friendships aren't about manipulation and an end-result - they just are what they are today). Dowd's kind of the thinking-man's Paige Smoron, in that it sounds more like chads and trixies than people we know.

And I'm terrible within that model, because I'm very much a I'll-let-you-win-the-battle-but-lose-the-war kind of guy.

― Eazy (Eazy), Wednesday, 2 November 2005 23:38 (twenty years ago)

(gotta run to play my show tonight - bye!)

― Eazy (Eazy), Wednesday, 2 November 2005 23:40 (twenty years ago)

I can't handle all that business about "if he actually lets me pay, that's when I know it's over."

For two reasons, I guess: one, because it exposes dating as a set of hidden rules and strategies that are funny in the context of a Seinfeld episode but hard to swallow in real life.

And two, because I still think it's sorta bullshit that dudes have to pay. I mean, I like being generous and treating someone every once in a while, and especially on a first date I can imagine dealing with money is probably awkward and it's nice to just be able to pay for the whole thing, but really now. Doesn't routine paying-for-the-lady only make sense in a society where men make more money than women? Ho ho, I know, we still live in that society. But sheesh, I don't make all that much money, and less than plenty of women, I'm sure. Which isn't about me being cheap, either. I'd just rather be equals with someone. I'll pay, and maybe you can get me back some other time.

(xpost) Yes. The friendship model is the best.

― jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 2 November 2005 23:50 (twenty years ago)

that really is a depressing article. yet i keep on reading it.

it really is bullshit that guys are expected to/feel like they are supposed to pay. money is awkward on a first date, but how hard is it to go dutch? if someone wants to pay for a date, they should because they want to, not because of some stupid outdated societal expectations.

that article makes me think of a friend in college who thought it was obvious that i didn't get many dates because i was intimidating to guys, because of intelligence or a difficult major or whatever. i thought she was full of shit.

― Juulia (julesbdules), Thursday, 3 November 2005 00:08 (twenty years ago)

Hey dudes. Sorry I was prickly. Seriously. I just want you to know that we can still be friends. Word up.

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Thursday, 3 November 2005 12:56 (twenty years ago)

(Manda, he stood you up at prom - don't apologize to him - it's not your fault!)

― Eazy (Eazy), Thursday, 3 November 2005 14:26 (twenty years ago)

How is everyone this morning?

Any better, Amanda?

How are your boots, Kelsey?

I think my coffee-induced stress (or rather lack of coffee) is abating. The shipment should arrive this afternoon. I'm over it.

― Kittens Licking Cakes (coco), Thursday, 3 November 2005 14:36 (twenty years ago)

I'm fine fine fine. Aside from the freshly-homeless dudes who would NOT stop talking to me on the train this morning, it's been a good one. Last night was fun, I got plenty of sleep and I feel alright about my exam tonight.

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Thursday, 3 November 2005 14:41 (twenty years ago)

How do I know they were freshly-homeless? They told me -- they went on and on and on about how tired they were and how shitty life is and what am I studying for and where do I go to school and how old am I and how they hate school and how shitty life is and how they were evicted from their rent-it-by-the-week room and how this has been a shitty day.

At 5:55AM there aren't a lot of people on the train and they talked and talked and asked me questions until they fell asleep. I did manage to get some studying though. I felt kinda bad, seeing that they were evicted and all.

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Thursday, 3 November 2005 14:48 (twenty years ago)

I have Don't Stop Believin'... in my head on repeat - just that one line.

I'm excited about having my own doctor. I haven't had one since I was in high school. I've always just gone to random doctors or urgent cares when I got sick.

― Kittens Licking Cakes (coco), Thursday, 3 November 2005 14:53 (twenty years ago)

Hi guys. The problem with taking a break from ILX is that the rest of the internet is REALLY FUCKING BORING.

I will happy to host a guy's night the next time the ladies get together for their ANTM fix. We could even try a poker night, but that might be kind of pathetic.

― n/a (Nick A.), Thursday, 3 November 2005 14:56 (twenty years ago)

I'm pleased that I got 5 new photos for my book!

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Thursday, 3 November 2005 14:58 (twenty years ago)

Amanda, I love your book, but at the same time, it's kind of fascinatingly creepy, don't you think?

I wanted to host the next ANTM! I guess we could close the door between the kitchen and the living room and segregate the girls and boys. Or the boys could just hang out at kenan's pad, which isn't far away. Then they could come over and we'd put on a record and have slow couples dancing.

― Kittens Licking Cakes (coco), Thursday, 3 November 2005 15:01 (twenty years ago)

Creepy? Why creepy?

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Thursday, 3 November 2005 15:05 (twenty years ago)

:( You think I'm creepy?

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Thursday, 3 November 2005 15:05 (twenty years ago)

If ya want my money, and ya think I'm creepy...

― Eazy (Eazy), Thursday, 3 November 2005 15:10 (twenty years ago)

They say that people should have had enough of silly love songs. I look around me and I see it isn't so.

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Thursday, 3 November 2005 15:12 (twenty years ago)

What book is this, Amanda?

― Jordan (Jordan), Thursday, 3 November 2005 15:22 (twenty years ago)

I was born in a crossfire hurricane, but it's all right now.

― Eazy (Eazy), Thursday, 3 November 2005 15:22 (twenty years ago)

okay, what is ANTM

― Jeff-PTTL (Jeff), Thursday, 3 November 2005 15:22 (twenty years ago)

1. America's next top model

2. The book: whenever new people come over I ask them to take off all of their clothes, stand against the wall and then I photograph them from the head up. That way, their face registers both nudity and fear, but there's no nudity in the photographs. Only in their eyes.

3. Ok, the nudity part is a lie. I just take a picture of everyone who comes over, standing in exactly the same spot.

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Thursday, 3 November 2005 15:25 (twenty years ago)

You have to admit that it's KIND of creepy. I know you're not creepy though. Thus, it is instead awesome. They are a bit like mug shots.

― Kittens Licking Cakes (coco), Thursday, 3 November 2005 15:27 (twenty years ago)

Oh, i caught like 5 minutes of that last night while I was trying to read my homework. It was just that chick dancing around.

― Jeff-PTTL (Jeff), Thursday, 3 November 2005 15:30 (twenty years ago)

It's creepy in the same way that anything methodical and uniform is creepy, I guess. Although I never thought about it that way, really. I'll be less aggro about it next time. I was sort of up in your face. Sorry about that!?!

We had fun though, right? I had a good time. My tummy hurt a little from eating TWO sandwiches, but it was worth it.

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Thursday, 3 November 2005 15:30 (twenty years ago)

3. Ok, the nudity part is a lie. I just take a picture of everyone who comes over, standing in exactly the same spot.

That's a neat idea!

― giboyeux (skowly), Thursday, 3 November 2005 15:32 (twenty years ago)

Our photos go back at least 4 years, with the different places we've lived and (aside from one time when I forgot) we have every single person who has come over, including repair-people and cable guys and the po-po, from when we had intruders.

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Thursday, 3 November 2005 15:34 (twenty years ago)

we have every single person who has come over, including repair-people and cable guys and the po-po, from when we had intruders.

!!!

― giboyeux (skowly), Thursday, 3 November 2005 15:36 (twenty years ago)

We could even try a poker night, but that might be kind of pathetic.

When my band was overseas, we would end up at the hotel almost every night playing Asshole and drinking all the backstage Heineken we could fit into our pockets (and believe me, it was a LOT). In retrospect, it may have been the purest male bonding I've ever experienced.

― Jordan (Jordan), Thursday, 3 November 2005 15:36 (twenty years ago)

Too bad you didn't get the intruders to pose.

― Jordan (Jordan), Thursday, 3 November 2005 15:37 (twenty years ago)

When the po-po came to take fingerprints, they found some on my purse, so I took a photo of my purse with fingerprint dust on it. We have photos of random dogs too. Only one baby, so far.

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Thursday, 3 November 2005 15:38 (twenty years ago)

I had a lot of fun last night. I'm sorry I was kinda raunchy. It only got worse in the car . . . Amanda, I hope I didn't scare Laura.
Also, I'm sorry about Carl.
And Sarah! I meant to ask you more about Dr. Marks! I was kind of distracted by all the stimuli last night, I guess. And the tragic raunch of my own mind.

I woke up this morning with a cottony head & a MASSIVE cold sore! I had to refill my v4lrex rx which is just plain embarassing. i have mouth herpes!

― kelsey (kelstarry), Thursday, 3 November 2005 15:40 (twenty years ago)

There are about eight different questions I want to ask you based on that post, Kelsey.

― jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 3 November 2005 15:42 (twenty years ago)

I'm sorry I was kinda raunchy.

This is a phrase I'm going to practice in the mirror. Thanks, Kels.

― Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Thursday, 3 November 2005 15:42 (twenty years ago)

OMG, Kelsey -- I'm the one who's sorry about Carl and how he tried to eat you. He recognizes that pose as "let's play" and he got really excited.

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Thursday, 3 November 2005 15:43 (twenty years ago)

Your raunchiness is WELCOME.

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Thursday, 3 November 2005 15:44 (twenty years ago)

So... it turns out my tired crankiness yesterday was ANOTHER STUPID COLD brewing in my poor, abused head.

Kelsey, Amanda, can you please tell me again about the salt water snorting cure? Because this is no time for another cold.

Amanda - what exam do you have tonight? And good luck!

― pullapartgirl (pullapartgirl), Thursday, 3 November 2005 15:48 (twenty years ago)

k - you can cover the neti pot since i don't have one.

really, all i did was put some warm water in a bowl, added some salt (1/2 tsp?) and waited til it was dissolved. then i stuck my nose in the bowl and snorted the water up one nostril while clamping the other shut. i jiggled it around in my head a little too, while holding the nostril with the water in it. then i snorted it out. repeat on the other nostril. blow nose. repeat once a day.

IS THIS NOT THE HOTTEST THING YOU HAVE EVER HEARD?

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Thursday, 3 November 2005 15:52 (twenty years ago)

Also, my exam is just a regular midterm for the sociolx class I'm taking; it's nothing monumental, but I have to do well on it.

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Thursday, 3 November 2005 15:54 (twenty years ago)

Did you use table salt or kosher salt?

I'm totally going to do this when I get home.

― pullapartgirl (pullapartgirl), Thursday, 3 November 2005 16:00 (twenty years ago)

i used regular morton's salt. i've also heard that you can put some baking soda in there too, to minimize burn. good luck!

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Thursday, 3 November 2005 16:02 (twenty years ago)

I saw a little of ANTM last night. They were running around in underwear. I was told it was a rerun, but it was alright.

And the Blackhawks won in OT. Man the stadium was 2/3 empty.

― Df'nM (OutDatWay), Thursday, 3 November 2005 16:06 (twenty years ago)

That was the rub! It was a recap episode. At least we got to see a new (unflattering) side of Jayla.

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Thursday, 3 November 2005 16:09 (twenty years ago)

We watched a Lost re-run last night. I had already read the TV w/out Pity recap so it seemed pretty lame.

― Jordan (Jordan), Thursday, 3 November 2005 16:10 (twenty years ago)

It was a clip show, which is good since I haven't been keeping up. Who's the brunette who's really judgemental and bitchy and no one talks to her? Because I'm in love. The way she rolls her eyes alone makes me want to commit to a lifetime of her disdain, abuse, and cuteness.

― Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Thursday, 3 November 2005 16:11 (twenty years ago)

That's Jayla. Have you seen her adorable elephant-sized ears? She's a recovering JW.

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Thursday, 3 November 2005 16:12 (twenty years ago)

Jon Williams?

― jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 3 November 2005 16:13 (twenty years ago)

Jeh0vah's Witness

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Thursday, 3 November 2005 16:13 (twenty years ago)

Also her musical taste is "totally unique" -- she likes "electroclash, psychobilly, you know, stuff that no one likes."

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Thursday, 3 November 2005 16:14 (twenty years ago)

Good thing you googled proofed that. They surely would have come to your house. xpost.

― Jeff-PTTL (Jeff), Thursday, 3 November 2005 16:18 (twenty years ago)

Sorry, I don't want those crazy people any closer to me than they have to be.

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Thursday, 3 November 2005 16:19 (twenty years ago)

I think I'm going to buy a theremin. They're not that expensive!

― Jordan (Jordan), Thursday, 3 November 2005 16:21 (twenty years ago)

She's a recovering JW.

Me too! OMG I need her phone number.

― Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Thursday, 3 November 2005 16:22 (twenty years ago)

http://www.classic45s.com/images/prince6_ps.jpg

― jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 3 November 2005 16:25 (twenty years ago)

Kenan, she has a myspace page!

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Thursday, 3 November 2005 16:27 (twenty years ago)

Euurgh, the Dowd article is making me really irritable in a can't-put-my-finger-on-it, low-level kind of way. First I think, "I don't know anyone like that, she's obv just generalizing hugely", but then I look around my office and realize who she's talking about. Next I think: well, I'M certainly not like that, which is true, but then I'm really a midwesterner and anyway, I'm stubborn and contrary and prideful and that's the only way I know how to be, so it's not like I win a medal for not being a certain KIND of woman, it just IS.

Is it impossible not to be involved in Dowd's demographic on either side? Or am I just fooling myself that I'm not just as predictable & caught up as the groups she portrays? I can't read that thing any more closely, it's only going in one retina and out the other and it's already making me feel like I've got sand in my clothes.

― Laurel (Laurel), Thursday, 3 November 2005 16:28 (twenty years ago)

jenny: the neti pot is basically the same as amanda's, but you have a darling pot with a nostril-sized spout to drain with. i use sea salt b/c i don't like the idea of "iodized salt" getting in my system. so basically i make a lukewarm mixture of water & salt in the neti pot & then you shove said spout in one nostril, tilt head toward other nostril & let the water flow through. repeat on other nostril & blow nose after. it's lovely. and also make some tea with honey, lemon & cayanne pepper. the cayenne clears up a lot of colds.

i neti potted this morning, actually.

john, i'm open to probably about 7 of your eight questions.

amanda, i was ready to play with carl if that's what it took! i love him. i had a feeling about him . . .

― kelsey (kelstarry), Thursday, 3 November 2005 16:34 (twenty years ago)

i think the raunchiest statement i said last night was:

"my pussy's too tight. i need a prothestic."

[context not included]

― kelsey (kelstarry), Thursday, 3 November 2005 16:37 (twenty years ago)

Euurgh, the Dowd article is making me really irritable in a can't-put-my-finger-on-it, low-level kind of way.

This is exactly how I felt about it too. Why is this making me feel so bad? Because I changed my name when I got married but I am NOT LIKE those women she described?

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Thursday, 3 November 2005 16:40 (twenty years ago)

Kelsey is the dog whisperer.

― Kittens Licking Cakes (coco), Thursday, 3 November 2005 16:41 (twenty years ago)

That's exactly what I thought! Carl needs a special kind of friend. He's skittish and over-loving.

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Thursday, 3 November 2005 16:41 (twenty years ago)

can someone link the article? i feel behind the times for not reading it.

― kelsey (kelstarry), Thursday, 3 November 2005 16:42 (twenty years ago)

I'll be Carl's special friend! I need a dog in my life!!!

― kelsey (kelstarry), Thursday, 3 November 2005 16:42 (twenty years ago)

Anytime -- Carl doesn't have a cellphone, but you can use our land line. He usually sleeps by the phone.

There's a link to that article somewhere upthread.

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Thursday, 3 November 2005 16:45 (twenty years ago)

http://www.nytimes.com/2005/10/30/magazine/30feminism.html?pagewanted=1

― jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 3 November 2005 16:46 (twenty years ago)

Well now, there's a question, Manda: would you be willing to talk about why you changed your name? I'm really curious, I was told as a kid that a woman we knew who kept her maiden name must not really have been committed to her husband, how sad for him. I can't even work up a coherent comment about that memory, but I'd really like to hear re your decision.

― Laurel (Laurel), Thursday, 3 November 2005 16:49 (twenty years ago)

Yesterday I wrote (pretty hastily) in response the article here: http://tiny.abstractdynamics.org/archives/006744.html

I think narcissism and low self-esteem are always going to be issues, whatever advances toward equality are made in American society.

― Eazy (Eazy), Thursday, 3 November 2005 16:53 (twenty years ago)

I've always thought it'd be kind of weird if my wife took my name.

― jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 3 November 2005 16:54 (twenty years ago)

I don't mind talking about it one bit -- I was surprised when Dan asked me to marry him, seeing that we had never really talked about it before. I never really cared about being married. For reals. We were happy. That was enough.

I was so moved by the fact that he asked me, that I thought about it and decided that I want to change my surname to his and put my old last name as my middle name. My old middle name wasn't really important. My new initials spell A-S-K, which I find nice and symbolic. I don't plan on having kids, so it has nothing to do with that.

Additionally, I like the idea that he and I are our own little family unit, that our initials are AK/DK. I found that it worked for me and I saw no reason not to.

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Thursday, 3 November 2005 16:54 (twenty years ago)

I think it would be a little weird too, jaymc, but I'll be cool with whatever Maddie decides to do (I mean, it's her NAME after all).

― Jordan (Jordan), Thursday, 3 November 2005 16:56 (twenty years ago)

Speaking of marriages, I get my new wedding ring today.

― Jeff-PTTL (Jeff), Thursday, 3 November 2005 16:57 (twenty years ago)

I'd like to share a hyphenated eight-to-ten-syllable last name.

― Eazy (Eazy), Thursday, 3 November 2005 16:58 (twenty years ago)

I don't know what to do about it, to be honest.

― kelsey (kelstarry), Thursday, 3 November 2005 16:59 (twenty years ago)

I always wonder what happens to the people who already have hyphenated names.

― jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 3 November 2005 17:01 (twenty years ago)

I didn't know what I was going to do until I did it. Furthermore, I don't really have any regrets, except when I feel like people make assumptions about me based on this one choice I made. I'm just glad that women -- men too, really -- have the choice and are free to do as they please in this regard.

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Thursday, 3 November 2005 17:02 (twenty years ago)

Anyway, I just read the article and it feels pretty alien, probably because I'm not in touch with anyone in a position to really date "up" or "down" from their financial status.

― Jordan (Jordan), Thursday, 3 November 2005 17:04 (twenty years ago)

Let's all keep our own names and start choosing unrelated surnames for the offspring, okay? That way there won't be issues of won't-someone-think-of-the-children bullshit. How about kids take the surnames of their godparents or beloved namesake friend or extended relative to represent their tie to that other family? Because obviously they're already tied by blood and upbringing to their birth parents, is another public statement/symbol really necessary there??

Amanda, that's not at all a commentary on your story, just a thought. I like the idea that you are your own family unit, too. :) I don't think it can be totally discounted, though, that the default way to represent yourselves as a unit is for you to be the one to conform. Bully for you for doing exactly what you wanted, regardless.

― Laurel (Laurel), Thursday, 3 November 2005 17:05 (twenty years ago)

Just after reading the first three pages, I think what irritates me about the article is that she makes these statements like they are absolutes: If you don't have for dinner, she won't go out with you again.

Well, sure, some women are like that just as some men would be offended if a woman even offered to pay. But just because there are a few people who think that way doesn't mean that's the way all of society operates.

And yeah, I will bet that in some social circles, women do have to downplay their accomplishments and not act too smart or funny or sarcastic or successful or confident to get a date but that's their damn problem. Anybody who would undermine their own fundamental personalities to cope with the pressure to find a date and get married, etc., well, they deserve whatever unfulfilling life they end up with as a result.

― pullapartgirl (pullapartgirl), Thursday, 3 November 2005 17:06 (twenty years ago)

Anybody who would undermine their own fundamental personalities to cope with the pressure to find a date and get married, etc., well, they deserve whatever unfulfilling life they end up with as a result.

Boo-yah. Well said, J.

― jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 3 November 2005 17:07 (twenty years ago)

xp to myself: We already do this kind of thing with Christian names, using surnames as well just ups the ante! Then you could combine a family first name with the last name of a hero or inspirational figure of yours and get, for instance, Virginia Curie, or whatever -- someone you hope would be a model or inspiration for the lucky recipient of the name, too. Is this intolerably romantic?

― Laurel (Laurel), Thursday, 3 November 2005 17:10 (twenty years ago)

I'm planning on using the Icelandic system and giving my kids the surnames Johnsson and Johnsdaughter.

― jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 3 November 2005 17:14 (twenty years ago)

I like the idea of taking someone's last name, the only reason why I wouldn't is if I pursue a career in radio or something & I need to at least use my current last name professionally. i suppose i could have a "professional name" & a "real" last name. i'm also thinking of changing my career entirely, so this may be a non-issue.

― kelsey (kelstarry), Thursday, 3 November 2005 17:17 (twenty years ago)

John, I too am looking forward to hyphenated name kids hooking up and producing progeny with four to twelve last names.

― Jordan (Jordan), Thursday, 3 November 2005 17:20 (twenty years ago)

i suppose i could have a "professional name" & a "real" last name

Yeah, lots of people do this. Like noted actress Jennifer Pitt. (Although that didn't last long.)

― jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 3 November 2005 17:22 (twenty years ago)

I kept my name for a number of reasons that were very important to me personally. The biggest one was it would feel like a rejection of some of my more radical feminist values to give up the name I've carried for 32 years just because I'm supposed to.

Now, having said that, I also think it's important to clarify two things: 1) this is a very personal decision and while that reason applies to me, I don't think it should apply to any one else; and 2) feminism for me is all about choice. By that I mean that the whole point of women's lib was not to take one set of life decisions over which women had no choice (get married, change your name, have kids, quit work) and substitute another set of life decisions over which women have no choice (co-habitate, keep your name, and be a working mother if you chose to have children). Instead is was to give women the freedom to pick and chose among all these possibilities and do what seems most appropriate for her without having to suffer the scrutiny and judgment of others, be they traditionalist or other feminists.

I basically said that so I could be honest about why I decided not to change my own personal name (I usually waffle with something about it being too much of a hassle or because I have degrees, publishing credits, etc. attached to it, and those are two other reasons but they aren't as significant) but make sure that Amanda specifically but also anybody else who chose differently than I understands that I'm not being judgmental or thinking bad things about you because of your very personal choice in the matter.

― pullapartgirl (pullapartgirl), Thursday, 3 November 2005 17:25 (twenty years ago)

I'm halfway through the article & one thing I've noticed is that her sampling of people seems quite limited. For one thing, I suspect her sample to be made of mostly upper-middle class & wealthy folks. She's "reporting" on this trend like it is happening across the board & I sincerely doubt it. I understand that we may be in a feminist flux, that women and men are feeling things out in a new way, whatever. But I don't think that her analysis of the dating scene is entirely accurate. An interesting phenomenon for her sample, sure, but not universal.

Also, this article is depressing because these people are just fucking pathetic. It seems far less an issue of feminism & more a complex engtanglement of various human issues that make me want to scream, "get over it already!" Why can't people just be fucking upfront with others & actually trust one another?

Okay. I'm off to read the other half.

― kelsey (kelstarry), Thursday, 3 November 2005 17:27 (twenty years ago)

And the kids can have Jeff's last name, whatever. Also, I am suprised by how man of my male friends and classmates get very blustery about the whole thing and suggest that it would either be offensive if their wives or future wives didn't take their last name, or that it somehow indicates weakness on the part of a man who doesn't force his wife to change her last name. Suprised and generally very irritated.

― pullapartgirl (pullapartgirl), Thursday, 3 November 2005 17:27 (twenty years ago)

Really?!?

― jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 3 November 2005 17:28 (twenty years ago)

Yeah, see I feel it more the other way around. Like people assume that I'm some sort of fem-bot because I changed it. And that makes me angry.

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Thursday, 3 November 2005 17:30 (twenty years ago)

Okay one more:

Also, I sometimes think it would be neat to have the same last name as Jeff for the same reasons Amanda said - I like the idea of a cozy family unit with two JHs. (A JAH and a JEH!) And while I am attached to my name for me, it means absolutely nothing in a family history way and it would be kind of cool to have a name that I got from someone I love. I also think Jeff's last name is really cool and it just happens to be the same name as the teddy bear that I've had since I was two and only stopped sleeping with a year ago because I was afraid he'd totally fall apart and then I would be devastated. Also, I just like change in general.

― pullapartgirl (pullapartgirl), Thursday, 3 November 2005 17:30 (twenty years ago)

Why can't people just be fucking upfront with others & actually trust one another?

That's a question for the ages, hon.

― Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Thursday, 3 November 2005 17:31 (twenty years ago)

Yeah! John, really! One of my best friends from forever who came to our wedding and everything said that he would feel like less of a man if his wife had not chosen to take his last name. It really threw me for a loop, to the point that I actually reexamined our friendship.

― pullapartgirl (pullapartgirl), Thursday, 3 November 2005 17:31 (twenty years ago)

I almost want to take Maddie's last name because multiple syllable first names + plus single syllable last names sound bad-ass.

― Jordan (Jordan), Thursday, 3 November 2005 17:32 (twenty years ago)

And another friend from school (a friend, too, not just some dumb frat boy that I'm nice to because I have to see him every day) told me that I obviously had a different concept of family than he did if I thought it was possible to have a real family unit where the father and kids had one last name and the mother had a different one.

That one really hit home because for the happiest parts of my childhood, I had my last name and my mother and stepfather had a different one. Ouch, man.

― pullapartgirl (pullapartgirl), Thursday, 3 November 2005 17:33 (twenty years ago)

You know, I just realized that I have trouble using that jokey bonhomie of last-names-only with married women who've taken a new name. Like I think I've called you "Kr4us" a couple of times, Amanda, because it's fun to say, but it also seemed not-quite-right. Same goes with my friend Mandy from Dallas, whom I'd rather call "Harris0n" than "J0hnson." The weird part is that I didn't even know either of you before you were married.

― jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 3 November 2005 17:35 (twenty years ago)

told me that I obviously had a different concept of family than he did

I obviously have a different concept, too. Let's form a club.

― Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Thursday, 3 November 2005 17:36 (twenty years ago)

Okay, that article is just fucking stupid. Seriously. Also, for reasons previously stated, I think her reporting is bad. It's an interesting glimpse & I agree that the trends are there, but I don't understand how I can feel like such a blatant "exception" to these "rules."
I just can't believe that people are capable of being that dismissive (no second date if he doesn't pay), that mousey (i was going to ask you out but you're at the NYT), that DUMB.
I'm more angry at whatever people are lurking out there being idiots than I am at the article.

― kelsey (kelstarry), Thursday, 3 November 2005 17:40 (twenty years ago)

Who can deny the appeal of this?
http://tinypic.com/fat2ts.gif

That said, I understand why you would feel that way, John, but you can always call me Amanda. Or Doris. Or Belinda. Or Shithead. I don't care.

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Thursday, 3 November 2005 17:41 (twenty years ago)

there are far too many people lurking out there being idiots, unfortunately. not to that extreme, i hope.

you should get towels monogrammed like that...

― Juulia (julesbdules), Thursday, 3 November 2005 17:42 (twenty years ago)

That, my friend, is truly awesome.

― jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 3 November 2005 17:42 (twenty years ago)

I like that eric pointed out that she never seems to think that men have changed at all.

she didn't.

― kelsey (kelstarry), Thursday, 3 November 2005 17:43 (twenty years ago)

I made stationery. Heehee.

Yeah, I think Dowd really has her head in the sand when it comes to people who don't fit her "argument." Like, all of us, for instance.

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Thursday, 3 November 2005 17:44 (twenty years ago)

Towels! Yes! And a doormat! And a little plaque next to your front door. And a mouse pad! And a SWEATER FOR CARL!

― pullapartgirl (pullapartgirl), Thursday, 3 November 2005 17:47 (twenty years ago)

Wait, which pup is the cocker? That's the one that I want to put in a AK/DK sweater.

― pullapartgirl (pullapartgirl), Thursday, 3 November 2005 17:48 (twenty years ago)

New York City will have to pardon me for saying this, but this seems like yet another instance of a NYC resident making inaccurate, grandiose statements about "society" based on what they see happening in their tiny little world and then publishing the grandiose statement in the paper of record.

I'm so totally eating pizza for lunch today. Maybe I'll make some embroidered handtowels. OR WOULD THAT BE TOO DOMESTIC?

Fucking NYT.

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Thursday, 3 November 2005 17:48 (twenty years ago)

Oh, that's Junior. Yesterday was his 13th birthday. (Observed, since we don't know when his birthday is.)

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Thursday, 3 November 2005 17:49 (twenty years ago)

the other bit about women now wanting to be objectified . . .

for one thing, the american body is changing. we are increasingly weighing more than we used to & according to some article i read, our shape is changing. we're losing our waists. also, divorce rates are fairly high & our society is highly sexualized. as a culture, it doesn't surprise me that we need to validate our own sex appeal.

i think that some people are misinformed & assume that a lively & active sex life will a good relationship make. therefore, i can't blame women and men who focus on that stuff. it is a choice & quite honestly, being percieved as sexy (by the right people) feels fucking great. if leaf thinks i look good, i feel good. my feeling good doesn't rely on him thinking that i look good, it's merely enhanced by it.

i babbling here & fishing around for articulate ways to express my reactions, but basically, i think there is more at play here. feminism itself is a huge, complicated thing. there isn't one, consistant interpretation of it & it's shallow of her to narrow her focus so much.

bleh.

― kelsey (kelstarry), Thursday, 3 November 2005 17:49 (twenty years ago)

i completely agree with what you said about nyc & the statements made.

― kelsey (kelstarry), Thursday, 3 November 2005 17:53 (twenty years ago)

I am listening to this:

http://www.npr.org/programs/morning/features/2005/july/thompson/fuzzy.jpg

So dope.

― jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 3 November 2005 17:56 (twenty years ago)

Her article certainly seems to commodify men, in terms of our value being only What We Can Do For Her - which is just another form of objectification. Again, there's this idea that the person we marry is our possession but that our friends are not our possessions, when it seems healthier for the two different types of relationships to be similar instead of different.

― Eazy (Eazy), Thursday, 3 November 2005 17:56 (twenty years ago)

It's interesting for me to hear what men have to say about the article, because I feel like she didn't think about them at ALL when she was writing it.

I want to see a Caitlin Flanagan-Maureen Dowd FITE.

Would they agree? Or not?

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Thursday, 3 November 2005 17:58 (twenty years ago)

I've always considered the friendship/relationship line to be fluid, for better or worse.

― jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 3 November 2005 18:00 (twenty years ago)

what should i do for lunch? i'm at a loss.

― kelsey (kelstarry), Thursday, 3 November 2005 18:00 (twenty years ago)

Haha. The only woman I know personally who has recently changed her name did it because her previous surname was Southeast Asian and contained a lot of letters/syllables not commonly used in English -- I think she's mostly relieved not to have to spell it out for anyone anymore! But I also went to a wedding a while back at which the bride had no intention of changing and I'm pretty sure the groom didn't mind, but the groom's family got kind of snippy about it as if THEY were the ones being "rejected" or etc. Also, yes, the groom's friends gave him a certain amount of shit about not being man enough to force the issue. Let's just say I don't hang out with them anymore.

Also, PAG is right on, I didn't explicitly roll out the "freedom of choice" thing only b/c I assumed it was understood. What the hell, these days I wear skirts & heels & makeup, and cook/sew/decorate at home and I don't have to defend the validity of these pursuits to anyone, obv. Although I often think that people from either my past or my present would be shocked at whatever "Laurel" they're not accustomed to, since my pre-NYC life was cycling/camping/feminist rallies/hiking boots.

I would also not like to think that Dowd is specifically speaking as a New Yorker, but from more of a class- or income-related vantage point than a geographical one.

― Laurel (Laurel), Thursday, 3 November 2005 18:00 (twenty years ago)

Kelsey completely OTM. Being flirty, dressing sexy or even having sex just to make yourself feel attractive is not specific to any gender or personality type.

― Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Thursday, 3 November 2005 18:03 (twenty years ago)

I would also not like to think that Dowd is specifically speaking as a New Yorker, but from more of a class- or income-related vantage point than a geographical one.

I think that's true. New York's not small and limited, the whole country is. More every day. We're all New Yorkers in many important ways. Not Manhattanites, maybe, but when every movie and TV show is set in New York, and half of our heroes and artists and musicians and whatnot are New Yorkers... well, come on. There's nothing limited about New York.

― Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Thursday, 3 November 2005 18:12 (twenty years ago)

That's what I'm saying! Her sample pool is so limited!

― kelsey (kelstarry), Thursday, 3 November 2005 18:15 (twenty years ago)

Her sample is, yes, but not because of where she lives.

― Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Thursday, 3 November 2005 18:16 (twenty years ago)

Yeah, that's a good point.

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Thursday, 3 November 2005 18:18 (twenty years ago)

WHAT THE FUCK ARE YOU GUYS TALKING ABOUT?

― n/a (Nick A.), Thursday, 3 November 2005 18:21 (twenty years ago)

WE ARE SUPPOSED TO BE TALKING ABOUT LUNCH. PAD THAI!

― n/a (Nick A.), Thursday, 3 November 2005 18:21 (twenty years ago)

Just kidding. Have fun!

― n/a (Nick A.), Thursday, 3 November 2005 18:21 (twenty years ago)

I'm eating a truly outstanding slice of cheese pizza.

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Thursday, 3 November 2005 18:22 (twenty years ago)

Now I'm sorry I derailed a serious discussion just because I had nothing to say about it. I think it would be weird if Sarah took my last name but mostly because her first name combined with my last name would be really hard to say. Aesthetic reasons, you know.

― n/a (Nick A.), Thursday, 3 November 2005 18:25 (twenty years ago)

Sir Ammerm4n.

― jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 3 November 2005 18:26 (twenty years ago)

I mean, based on her writing (which might only reflect part of her personality), I'd be reluctant to get involved with Maureen Dowd, even though, on a physical level, I've always had a crush on Blair Brown and they look a lot alike.

From her writing, I would think that she would be obsessed with whatever fads, societal and political, are happening this week; she would wisecrack instead of analyze; she would caricature the people around her and then revel in the parts of them that match the caricature; and she would likely focus on subjects that somehow related to status. But, then again, I'd also want to take turns paying for dates, or something similar, and it sounds like she wouldn't be up for that, either.

xpost - I had scrambled eggs a little while ago, once a report here gets finalized I'll take a coffeehouse lunch hour and go read Frederick and Steven Barthelme's 'Double Down'.

― Eazy (Eazy), Thursday, 3 November 2005 18:26 (twenty years ago)

I had an omlette and hashbrowns from Steve's about an hour ago. I do not need lunch.

― Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Thursday, 3 November 2005 18:28 (twenty years ago)

i'm feeling weird. i have a mouth herpe, i don't know what to eat & i just read the "my girlfriend died" thread & they were long-distance lovers & now i'm all stressed that something will happen to leaf. i honestly would not cope well with that, especially since grandpa dying was hard enough & he was expected.

― kelsey (kelstarry), Thursday, 3 November 2005 18:28 (twenty years ago)

(here's where Jaymc needs to insert photos of Blair Brown and Maureen Dowd - I'm so very lazy with tags)

― Eazy (Eazy), Thursday, 3 November 2005 18:31 (twenty years ago)

i had a disgusting sandwich. the cheese on it was ok though.

it's really good to read various viewpoints on the maureen dowd article because that sort of thing sometimes gets me wondering if the particular subset of people who she describes are more common than i'd like to think, and, well, that's enormously depressing. even though of course i know that her viewpoints are full of shit in lots of ways.

― Juulia (julesbdules), Thursday, 3 November 2005 18:32 (twenty years ago)

Like so?

http://www.probertencyclopaedia.com/j/Blair%20Brown.jpg http://www.skirball.com/program/septoct04/septoctimgs/Maureen_Dowd.jpg

― jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 3 November 2005 18:33 (twenty years ago)

Kelsey - You sound like you need a hug. :(

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Thursday, 3 November 2005 18:33 (twenty years ago)

julia, I know exactly what you mean. I have those same thoughts...

― jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 3 November 2005 18:34 (twenty years ago)

OH NOES SOME AMERICANS HAVE A LOT OF DISPOSABLE INCOME AND BASE THEIR SOCIAL RITUALS AROUND THAT FACT OH NOES

― Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Thursday, 3 November 2005 18:36 (twenty years ago)

xp--that thread is so, so sad. something like that out of nowhere must be devastating.

i was reading a SF chronicle series on golden gate bridge suicides earlier, and i should really read something more cheerful. but i'm in the middle of an article about alito. sigh.

― Juulia (julesbdules), Thursday, 3 November 2005 18:37 (twenty years ago)

is it so much to do with disposable income though? it seems like more of a social subset to me, people who embrace that sort of thinking. a goal might be to have more, income-wise, but having that doesn't necessarily define the group who think that way.

― Juulia (julesbdules), Thursday, 3 November 2005 18:39 (twenty years ago)

I would like to try to set up Maureen Dowd with Ryan Adams. I think they would make a good couple.

― Eazy (Eazy), Thursday, 3 November 2005 18:40 (twenty years ago)

Jenny bought me dinner the first time we went out. I didn't protest at all!

― Jeff-PTTL (Jeff), Thursday, 3 November 2005 18:40 (twenty years ago)

I was thinking about getting a haircut today and decided against it. Then I went to get tacos and saw that a new haircut place had opened next door, and a Ukranian guy came out when I went past and said, "Hey, wanna haircut?" So I got one, and he told me I should stop using hair product and shampooing so much if I want to keep my hair. The haircut itself is okay, I guess. About as good as the tacos.

― Jordan (Jordan), Thursday, 3 November 2005 18:47 (twenty years ago)

I can't really read the girlfriend thread.

― Jordan (Jordan), Thursday, 3 November 2005 18:52 (twenty years ago)

As amused as I am by the "OH NOES" construction, Kenan, what does that have to do with anything that's on the table here?

Also, as an aside, I always insist on dutch for the first few dates primarily because I hate being obliged to anyone when I don't have enough evidence of the individual's err...emotional trustworthiness, for lack of a better term. Which probably says that I see that model (she charms/he pays) as a business transaction and I want no part of it until trust/precedent has been established. This is also why I don't let strangers buy me drinks at bars. (Come to think of it, they always seem immensely offended when I refuse -- what the fuck is up with that?? Isn't the fact that I have the right to refuse the whole point of ASKING ME in the first place?!)

But now that I've dated someone who never had disposable income and refused to get a day job, I am so gung-ho on the idea of being "treated". The luxury! The novelty!

― Laurel (Laurel), Thursday, 3 November 2005 18:52 (twenty years ago)

kelsey-I had a dream last weekend that you tried to force nose saline pipe me. I was strange. And then you guys all did the Hot Butter Rolls dance to distract me, but you were like miniature pod people versions of yourselves.
I read that "My girlfriend died" thread, and it reminded me further of the death of a college friend of mine who died a few years ago (in similar circumstances) and I had been thinking about her last night. About how when people die when you are apart from them and you can't go to the funeral it's as if they are never really gone.

― jocelyn (Jocelyn), Thursday, 3 November 2005 18:56 (twenty years ago)

hey - that reminds me:
sarah and kelsey - laura just emailed me and said it was a pleasure to meet you both and that she had a dream that you guys knew katie couric. hahaha.

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Thursday, 3 November 2005 19:07 (twenty years ago)

what does that have to do with anything that's on the table here?

my oh noes were a response to people saying that they can't believe or hope to god that there aren't too many people who share these values (eg, no second date if he doesn't pay), and I'm saying, it's about class and money, innit?

― Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Thursday, 3 November 2005 19:16 (twenty years ago)

Tortoise and Bonnie Prince Billy cover Elton John's "Daniel," wtf.

― jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 3 November 2005 19:20 (twenty years ago)

This is also why I don't let strangers buy me drinks at bars.

See, while I agree that the dinner date can be a business transaction (thought not a terribly frightening one, IMO), buying a girl a drink in a bar seems like a perfectly natural thing to do, and the difference is that there is no obligation implied in it. Talk for two minutes, if you don't like him, take your free drink and go elsewhere. It's a little rude, but less so than refusing the drink.

― Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Thursday, 3 November 2005 19:20 (twenty years ago)

I don't know lauren -- you may be right. I haven't bought a girl a drink in a bar for ages, so I'm rusty. (I wonder if it's because I'm terrified she'll say no?)

― Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Thursday, 3 November 2005 19:21 (twenty years ago)

That Tortoise and Bonnie Prince Billy album is disappointing.

― Jeff-PTTL (Jeff), Thursday, 3 November 2005 19:24 (twenty years ago)

My strategy is, while I'm buying a drink myself, I say "do you need anything?" If she says sure, I'll ask her what she wants and start to order. Then, if she tries to get out money, I'll say, "oh, don't worry about it."

― jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 3 November 2005 19:25 (twenty years ago)

NB: I can't remember if I've ever actually done this.

― jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 3 November 2005 19:26 (twenty years ago)

The brilliance of it, though, is that there's no rejection. If she answers, "No, I don't need anything," it doesn't actually sound like she's saying, "I'm not interested" -- it could very well simply mean "I don't need anything."

― jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 3 November 2005 19:27 (twenty years ago)

That's a very good strategy.

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Thursday, 3 November 2005 19:27 (twenty years ago)

i don't like the thought of such things as business transactions.

when i've been bought drinks (haven't hung out in bars for quite a while, though) i've just taken it as a compliment. the guys buying them were typically nice enough, and i'd chat with them a bit as i drank the whatever, and nothing ever came of it, but i never thought of it as a big deal one way or the other.

― Juulia (julesbdules), Thursday, 3 November 2005 19:30 (twenty years ago)

We do, but we hate to name drop!

I read the article. Some thoughts, so says me, Sarah Christine P0well-Py1ant-J0hns0n:
* Men and Women, on the whole, like to look/feel sexy/attractive. Ain't no law agin' it. I think it's perfectly natural.
* A woman who enjoys knitting should not be accused of being antifeminist just as a man who enjoys cooking is no less of a man.
* If you want to change your last name, that's cool. If not, that's cool. If you want to make up an entirely different last name that you share, that's fine too. I just think it's easier when it comes to graphing out lineages to not create new names. And I would want my kids to share my last name.
* I think that there is a male fantasy of wanting to protect a beautiful childlike woman, which is played out in movies all the time, but I don't think that necessarily reflects the reality. In real life, people, as Eric said, tend to want to be with interesting people.

― Kittens Licking Cakes (coco), Thursday, 3 November 2005 19:30 (twenty years ago)

egad. i don't think i like the "daniel" cover.

― kelsey (kelstarry), Thursday, 3 November 2005 19:32 (twenty years ago)

i'm a little afraid of listening to it.

― Juulia (julesbdules), Thursday, 3 November 2005 19:32 (twenty years ago)

yeah, i'm a little afraid too. i like that song, in general, and i like bpb, but uh, i dunno. here goes...

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Thursday, 3 November 2005 19:34 (twenty years ago)

Yeah, it's not that good. I'd be more interested in hearing them do original work together, because everyone involved just sounds confined by the song structure.

― jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 3 November 2005 19:34 (twenty years ago)

well, individually, all three components are compelling -- the song, bpb, tortoise.

together -- eeeg! making those three things sound boring is a feat indeed!

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Thursday, 3 November 2005 19:39 (twenty years ago)

No, Kenan, you may be right and maybe I was just missing the other perspective on this little scene. But I find it distasteful, it feels like a transaction and one based primarily on the woman's looks (since presumably the suitor doesn't know anything about her, really), and the idea that my looks can be bartered for...anything, really...gives me the creeps. Also, I would feel dishonest about accepting the drink and then skiving off after 2 mins -- in my mind that's more rude than just being honest at the beginning. Refusing the transaction seems efficient -- it frees both parties to use their time/effort/money where it will do the most good. Am I the crazy one? Cf my post above re my being stubborn & prideful.

Also: brilliant, Jay!

― Laurel (Laurel), Thursday, 3 November 2005 19:41 (twenty years ago)

The whole album is boring!

― Jeff-PTTL (Jeff), Thursday, 3 November 2005 19:43 (twenty years ago)

Katie Roiphe on Maureen Dowd.

― jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 3 November 2005 19:44 (twenty years ago)

The Bruce Springsteen cover ("Thunder Road") works better, I think. On the same site I found those, there was also a Devo cover, but it was pretty worthless.

― jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 3 November 2005 19:46 (twenty years ago)

On a more serious note, I just read the girlfriend died thread and I'm feeling down. When you have a lot of love for someone, being at work filling out a fedex slip to a customer seems like a waste of lifetime you could be spending together. It makes me want to live in a tiny village with all my loved ones and just hug them a lot every day and express how I feel to them. Life is so fragile.

― Kittens Licking Cakes (coco), Thursday, 3 November 2005 19:47 (twenty years ago)

the idea that my looks can be bartered for...anything, really...gives me the creeps

well, ok. That's fair enough. I don't see it that way, though. But I'm a big dumb male, and pretty girls have this effect on me where I want them to like me and have a drink with me.

Also, jaymc's plan requires that you are already talking to the girl, which is a much better idea all around. Opening with "Can I buy you a drink" is tacky. Sitting down, making a few minutes of small talk, then asking to buy a drink -- not near as creepy.

― Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Thursday, 3 November 2005 19:48 (twenty years ago)

I am not reading the dead girlfriend thread. Not ever.

― Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Thursday, 3 November 2005 19:49 (twenty years ago)

i think i'm going to ask if i can go home. i feel like poop on a stick.

― kelsey (kelstarry), Thursday, 3 November 2005 19:54 (twenty years ago)

Do it. It's beautiful outside and will cheer you right up and make you feel less crappy in general.

― Kittens Licking Cakes (coco), Thursday, 3 November 2005 20:01 (twenty years ago)

Oh stop that, Kenan. I'm only speaking for myself, obv, and I'm probably a little bit crazy. Also, none of my antipathy applies to acquaintances, only to strangers who are a) usually fairly patronizing and b) usually already drunk. I don't think anyone has ever tried to pick me up by saying something really smart or witty or just launching into funny conversation, because that would assume that they're capable of verbal gymnastics in the first place AND that they think I'M smart enough to get the joke/reference/line of reasoning.

But it IS a problematic line to toe -- I dislike a great many of the conventions of dating and I'm really very bad at it as popularly defined.

― Laurel (Laurel), Thursday, 3 November 2005 20:08 (twenty years ago)

The Tort/BPB stuff reminds me of old interviews with Jim O'R, where he kept talking about wanting to do an EP of radio-song covers, doing 'Mmm Mmm Mmm Mmm' and 'The Way It Is'.

― Eazy (Eazy), Thursday, 3 November 2005 20:26 (twenty years ago)

Don't sweat it, Lauren. So am I. So is most everyone I know. But I aspire to great heights.

― Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Thursday, 3 November 2005 20:26 (twenty years ago)

"The Way It Is" the Bruce Hornsby song?

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Thursday, 3 November 2005 20:30 (twenty years ago)

yep! Both of those could work with his voice and his guitar playing, weirdly.

― Eazy (Eazy), Thursday, 3 November 2005 20:30 (twenty years ago)

Yeah, I kinda like that song. At least I don't turn it off, usually. It's sad.

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Thursday, 3 November 2005 20:32 (twenty years ago)

Know what lyric was stuck in my head this morning?

"Sucking on chili dogs, outside the Tastee Freeze"

Over and over and over and over.

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Thursday, 3 November 2005 20:34 (twenty years ago)

Yeah, I really wish O'Rourke had done that record. He was talking about it as long ago as 1997:

His next project is, tentatively, a personal crusade upon music which has been labeled "bad" by the music world - an album of covers, as he puts it, of "songs that are generally not considered to be good songs." Songs like Bruce Hornsby's "The Way It Is."

"It's just to present that these are good songs. I'm not trying to be like, 'I'm the person who can show you that these songs are good,'" says the mild-mannered O'Rourke from New York's West Park Hotel. "[If they're sub-par, it's] through bad recording or arrangements or because of the time these songs were done."

He cites the Crash Test Dummies' "Superman's Song" ("the mmmm mmmm mmmm mmmm song") as another diamond in the rough. "Oh! That song is really fucking good. There's too much piano playing and there's some bad bass playing, oh man, the guy's like 'LOOK AT ME I CAN PUT SOME EXTRA NOTES IN HERE,' but for the most part, I think it's a really amazing song."

At the moment, those are the only two songs O'Rourke's decided on. "They just have to come to me. I have to wait until I hear them. I've thought of some songs but the originals are good enough. I want ones where people are like 'What the fuck, Bruce Hornsby? That guy is wack!'"

― jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 3 November 2005 20:35 (twenty years ago)

Make a loop of that, Manda, add some thumping drums and bass, and you could have yourself a High-NRG gay club anthem.

x-post - Oh! 'Superman's Song' is a different song from 'Mmm Mmm Mmm Mmm' - both are good.

― Eazy (Eazy), Thursday, 3 November 2005 20:37 (twenty years ago)

Jimmy needs to go back to the laptop for an album.

― Jeff-PTTL (Jeff), Thursday, 3 November 2005 20:39 (twenty years ago)

No, he doesn't.

― jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 3 November 2005 20:40 (twenty years ago)

'Halfway to a Threeway' is the one I like most - no laptops there.

― Eazy (Eazy), Thursday, 3 November 2005 20:42 (twenty years ago)

i'm off to take my exam! see y'all later.

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Thursday, 3 November 2005 20:44 (twenty years ago)

I'm Happy and I'm Singing and This Record is Fucking Boring.

;-)

― jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 3 November 2005 20:45 (twenty years ago)

I feel like refried poop on a stick, and should be at home.
Are there songs, like Lady in Red for instance, that could just never be good so matter how they are arranged?

― jocelyn (Jocelyn), Thursday, 3 November 2005 20:46 (twenty years ago)

There was a time around 2001-02 or so when I would've said that "Not Sport, Marital Art" was the best example of the kind of song I would want to make on my own (partially because it reminded me of instrumental stuff I was already writing).

― jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 3 November 2005 20:48 (twenty years ago)

maybe, somehow, but that would be quite a feat to make that song decent. i can't quite imagine.

― Juulia (julesbdules), Thursday, 3 November 2005 20:49 (twenty years ago)

Not Sport, Marital Art

Western and Elston, HOLLAA!!!!

― giboyeux (skowly), Thursday, 3 November 2005 20:58 (twenty years ago)

Yup!

― jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 3 November 2005 21:05 (twenty years ago)

I think 'The Lady in Red' sung in some language like Tagalog or Korean, if you didn't know the song already, would be OK generic balladry, which is probably why the song was such a hit worldwide.

― Eazy (Eazy), Thursday, 3 November 2005 21:19 (twenty years ago)

I'm Happy and I'm Singing and This Record is Fucking Boring.

HAHAHA! I'm going to buy John a drink for that!

― pullapartgirl (pullapartgirl), Thursday, 3 November 2005 21:47 (twenty years ago)

Whoa, reading that I feel like I have listened to The Lady in Red in another language, and recently. That song makes me irritable.

Some xposts: I will not read the girlfriend thread because while Jeff and I live together, he's not here right now so that thread will make me cry and fret until he gets home at seven.

While I have similar distaste for transactional dating models, I will let anybody buy me a drink. But I have always been really eeeeevil* to anyone who hits on me in a bar, so I never felt like I was leading anyone on, just accepting a friendly free beverage.

*sort of a trial by fire thing, I guess, or just a general distaste for being "hit on" as opposed to "talked to."

― pullapartgirl (pullapartgirl), Thursday, 3 November 2005 21:51 (twenty years ago)

just a general distaste for being "hit on" as opposed to "talked to."

yes yes yes. this seems like a common problem with out-of-nowhere messages on myspace/friendster too, which alternately entertains me and peeves me/creeps me out.

― Juulia (julesbdules), Thursday, 3 November 2005 22:04 (twenty years ago)

Jessa regularly gets offers from 60-yr-old men on Nerve. Always a particularly amusing sort of 60-yr-old as well. Maybe any old man who hits on young women online is inherently amusing.

― Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Thursday, 3 November 2005 22:07 (twenty years ago)

We talked about the O'Rourke "bad song cover album" idea a while ago, because I had the same idea. I still kind of want to do it, but it would be really difficult to do without coming off as arch or ironic or jokey.

― n/a (Nick A.), Thursday, 3 November 2005 22:07 (twenty years ago)

I'm proud of being able to pull of 'Hand In My Pocket' without either being too reverent or sabotaging.

― Eazy (Eazy), Thursday, 3 November 2005 22:10 (twenty years ago)

I read that his next album was supposed to be something with an orchestra.

― Jeff-PTTL (Jeff), Thursday, 3 November 2005 22:13 (twenty years ago)

That sounds promising. I am not being sarcastic.

― pullapartgirl (pullapartgirl), Thursday, 3 November 2005 22:20 (twenty years ago)

xp: Really?! Eeeeeeeeeevil HOW, exactly? I'm interested.

Where romantic relations are concerned, I realize that my own sort of rigorous and not-necessarily consistent standards mean that the window of possibility is going to be on the small side but I'm okay with that, I think. NYC is probably not the place for me to be dating, this place encourages my bad habits and doesn't reward the good ones I'm trying to set.

NERVE! I think it's either hilarious or a nightmare -- I escaped the 60-yr old men but oh, the stories.

― Laurel (Laurel), Thursday, 3 November 2005 22:23 (twenty years ago)

Eric's right about his "One Hand in My Pocket" cover: it's a fine balance, and he's found it.

J & J: what are you two up to tonight?

― jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 3 November 2005 22:26 (twenty years ago)

(I'm planning on cleaning/packing, but I could maybe use a beer...)

― jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 3 November 2005 22:32 (twenty years ago)

Also, I guess I should say this to everyone: If anyone wants to help me move, it's gonna happen a week from Saturday (the 12th). I'll probably want to start early-ish, like, I dunno, 10 am. You are of course under no obligation to help, but some of you have expressed interest. I'm just sayin'.

― jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 3 November 2005 22:34 (twenty years ago)

I suddenly got an inexplicable but distinct taste for Papa John's breadsticks.

― jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 3 November 2005 22:37 (twenty years ago)

I've got to work on a paper tonight. I might have room for a beer late, maybe. Bedtime beer.

― Jeff-PTTL (Jeff), Thursday, 3 November 2005 22:40 (twenty years ago)

That's okay: you should work on your paper. It was just an idea.

― jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 3 November 2005 22:41 (twenty years ago)

I don't remember Papa John's breadsticks, only the taste of that buttery, greasy "sauce" that they include with the pizza.

Maddie's making chicken breasts stuffed with goat cheese, walnuts, and cranberries tonight, I'm excited.

― Jordan (Jordan), Thursday, 3 November 2005 22:47 (twenty years ago)

Wow. That sounds crazy.

We used to order breadsticks all the time in college. You could get any of three sauces: that disgusting butter sauce, a marginally less disgusting cheese sauce, and marinara.

― jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 3 November 2005 22:51 (twenty years ago)

i like the disgusting butter sauce! it's all garlicky! and greasy as hell of course.

― Juulia (julesbdules), Thursday, 3 November 2005 22:52 (twenty years ago)

Gross.

― jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 3 November 2005 22:54 (twenty years ago)

I retain a sick infatuation with Pizza Hut's breadsticks, though I haven't had them in almost a year. They're so...well-formed, and I like the crumbly seasoning on top.

― Jordan (Jordan), Thursday, 3 November 2005 23:02 (twenty years ago)

Pizza Hut Breadstick Seasoning Recipe #109314
This recipe written on a scrap paper so not sure where I copied from but obviously wanted for future use so posting here.
4 tablespoons dry parmesan cheese
3 tablespoons garlic powder
1 tablespoon onion salt
1 tablespoon oregano

― Jordan (Jordan), Thursday, 3 November 2005 23:03 (twenty years ago)

I used to deliver pies* for Papa John's. My boss was a super-intelligent 17 year old coke head.

I got glass pipe and a sack of weed upon "retirement." Fuck you, gold watch!

*I was 20

― giboyeux (skowly), Thursday, 3 November 2005 23:06 (twenty years ago)

OMG I just did the salt water thing! It's amazing! I thought it would be like getting water up my nose at the beach but it's not like that at all. It's like... soothing. It actually feels good. This is very strange. I want one of those nose pots now, too, especially if this "new cold every month!" thing is going to go on much longer. Wow.

That Papa John's dipping sauce gives me the most unbelievable acid reflux pain ever. Just thinking about it makes my chest kind of ache.

― pullapartgirl (pullapartgirl), Thursday, 3 November 2005 23:20 (twenty years ago)

http://www.healingdaily.com/exercise/neti-pot.jpg

That will be me.

― pullapartgirl (pullapartgirl), Thursday, 3 November 2005 23:20 (twenty years ago)

I thought that was Reese Witherspoon at first (starring in Legally Clogged).

― jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 3 November 2005 23:23 (twenty years ago)

John - I have packing boxes left over from my move - they're yours if you want 'em.

― Eazy (Eazy), Friday, 4 November 2005 00:11 (twenty years ago)

Ooh yeah I do. Maybe I could pick them up this weekend?

― jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 4 November 2005 00:19 (twenty years ago)

Good morning -- calling all early birds!

My exam went ok last night, but I'm not sure I agree with my prof's assessment methods. It goes against everything I've been taught and would consider intuitive for a teaching professional. Our test was multiple choice, all of it. 27 questions, no writing, no essays, just "figure out what sort of joke I'm trying to play on you here and which word is incorrect in this very long sentence" or "none of the above." It felt like I was playing a game that was NO FUN AT ALL. Oh well. It's over.

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Friday, 4 November 2005 14:09 (twenty years ago)

Early shmurly! I've been up forEVER.

Congrats on the test! Multiple choice does seem like a.....strange format.

― giboyeux (skowly), Friday, 4 November 2005 14:12 (twenty years ago)

I'm sure you did well, Amanda.

I feel kind of worn out. I circle the days on my calendar when I have something planned and this whole month and quite a bit of next month is already blacked out. This weekend, we play a show, I'm going to at least one show - maybe 2, and my friend Sarah is visiting.

― Kittens Licking Cakes (coco), Friday, 4 November 2005 14:29 (twenty years ago)

What shows are you going to? I don't have anything fun planned, but I have a LOT OF WORK to do. Some of it is fun though.

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Friday, 4 November 2005 14:31 (twenty years ago)

We might go see Sn0wbeast tonight (at Cal's) after band practice. I will try to find a webpage for them. One of those guys mastered a cd for us and hooked us up with our current practice space. Saturday night is our show at Silvie's. Sunday night I'm going to see Veruca Salt (at the metro) with Sarah.

(Random question: my computer isn't letting me open a second internet browser page any more. It just says it can't connect to the server. I think it is trying to protect me against popups or something? How can I change the settings so I can have 2 different pages going on at once?)

― Kittens Licking Cakes (coco), Friday, 4 November 2005 14:35 (twenty years ago)

what browser do you use?

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Friday, 4 November 2005 14:36 (twenty years ago)

Internet Explorer.

Here's Sn0wbeast's page

― Kittens Licking Cakes (coco), Friday, 4 November 2005 14:38 (twenty years ago)

Dammit my last two posts were eaten so I'm just going to say that I don't know the answer to your problem, S. BIG SURPRISE, right?

haha.

What are y'all doing for Thanksgiving? Going home? Staying here? Going somewhere else? It's only like 2 weeks away. I'm thinking of inviting my parents, but they probably won't come. It's a bad time of the year to travel and they don't really come to visit much. Hmm. What to do.

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Friday, 4 November 2005 14:57 (twenty years ago)

Hello.

Amanda, thank you for the Goblin CD, it rules HARDCORE. I love it.

This morning, walking to work, I saw a mother boxer dog with two puppies, just walking around on their own, no collars or owners or anything. They didn't seem wild (I walked within like 5-6 feet of them with no reaction) but it was still unusual in a city environment.

― n/a (Nick A.), Friday, 4 November 2005 14:58 (twenty years ago)

I am staying home for Thanksgiving. Home ALONE. Cue Macauley Culkin picture.

― n/a (Nick A.), Friday, 4 November 2005 14:59 (twenty years ago)

Jeff is working all through the Thanksgiving Holiday so we don't have to travel. I'll probably study a lot and on T-day itself, he will get home at around 10:30 PM at which point I will feed him lasagna and peanut butter pie, our new official Thanksgiving dinner.

I wish we didn't have to travel for Christmas, either, but we do. pffft.

― pullapartgirl (pullapartgirl), Friday, 4 November 2005 15:03 (twenty years ago)

Oh good! You guys like the Goblin. It would have been better if I had remembered to bring it to the party, but anytime is a good time for spooky prog. Even Thanksgiving. Of course, I forgot a song list, but I can email one to you if you want. (Later, from home, where the list is.)

Alone on t-giving though -- that's sad. I'm thinking of having an orphan party, but I have to see how things work out with the parents.

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Friday, 4 November 2005 15:05 (twenty years ago)

I'm going to VA. It's a huge mess. The vacation is malpropre. IN case I didn't mention, I was going to spend alone time with my dad after finding out my sister is too busy with a wedding. THen at the last second, my mom bought a ticket to come that same weekend EVEN THOUGH I asked her nicely not to come then (she lives in another state now) because sister will be busy and I want to spend some time alone with my dad for a change. But no! IT's been 17 years since the divorce and I still need to spend exactly the same amount of time with each parent. But I think I've mentioned all this already. Sorry!

I'm actually in a great mood this morning.

― Kittens Licking Cakes (coco), Friday, 4 November 2005 15:06 (twenty years ago)

Sorry to do this to you people, but I just think this is a precious picture of my pal Christy's daughter Naomi dressed up as a tiger for Halloween:

http://static.flickr.com/30/59683573_80253b1fd5_o.jpg

― pullapartgirl (pullapartgirl), Friday, 4 November 2005 15:06 (twenty years ago)

I think we're going over to a friend's house for T-dinner. How adult.

Xmas, we're driving down to Kansas City (MO) so I can meet Maddie's extended family.

― Jordan (Jordan), Friday, 4 November 2005 15:07 (twenty years ago)

Ugh, I have a hangover headache, and my coffee is too hot to drink because a man with one arm used the rest of the milk not in his coffee, but in a big glass of milk. Who drinks milk in the morning if cereal is not involved?

― Jordan (Jordan), Friday, 4 November 2005 15:09 (twenty years ago)

Ew. I have a friend who drank so much milk that his doctor told him to cut it out. One time, one really embarrassing time, he ordered a glass of milk IN A BAR.

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Friday, 4 November 2005 15:10 (twenty years ago)

When I have kids, I'm going to dress them in animal costumes tous les temps until they are old enough to figure out I'm crazy and dress themselves.

See if this works: silly video

― Kittens Licking Cakes (coco), Friday, 4 November 2005 15:11 (twenty years ago)

OMG the one on the right. The faces. My heart is warm.

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Friday, 4 November 2005 15:16 (twenty years ago)

I'm in a totally numb mood this morning. I woke up on my boss's couch, along with one of the programmers, completely wrecked. Last night was an office party, you see. I think they're more wrecked than I am, particularly since they thought it wise to smoke a bowl before work this morning. I declined. I need my anxiety to get things done.

Oh, and a template I used for a client's website turned out to be one they'd seen before. Shit shit shit. Now they're angry.

― Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Friday, 4 November 2005 15:17 (twenty years ago)

Sorry, Kenan. At least (*don't read too much of a cheery tone into this or it will annoy you*) it's Friday.

Tu le regardes?

― Kittens Licking Cakes (coco), Friday, 4 November 2005 15:20 (twenty years ago)

My dad called last night, probably about Thanksgiving, but ended up leaving 5 minutes of totally unintelligable message followed by the radio and then sounds of chewing. I'm confused because I thought he was going on another CRUISE. I am going to be in Madison WI Wed.-Sun. if anyone is interested.

― jocelyn (Jocelyn), Friday, 4 November 2005 15:25 (twenty years ago)

Maybe our answering machine just sucks really bad, but usually I can just kind of make out who called.

― Kittens Licking Cakes (coco), Friday, 4 November 2005 15:28 (twenty years ago)

Dear Nick the Thanksgiving Loner:

Please spend one or both of the following Thanksgiving celebration events with Jeff and me and let's be realistic here, probably Jesse:

1. Thanksgiving Even at Simon's, where they put out a buffet of food and people get drunk and festive.
2. Late Night Thanksgiving Lasagna and Peanut Butter Pie Fiesta. I am going to make a pumpkin pie, too, because I'm a real traditionalist like that, and we are making vegetable lasagna.

We can also go to the PARADE!!!! on Thanksgiving morning, because I don't know about you, but I fucking LOVE PARADES!!!

xoxoxo,
Jenny and Jeff

― pullapartgirl (pullapartgirl), Friday, 4 November 2005 15:28 (twenty years ago)

I'm interested, Jocelyn! As far as I know I'll just be around.

― Jordan (Jordan), Friday, 4 November 2005 15:35 (twenty years ago)

Oh! That sounds fun, jenny! Also, there's the veggie Thanksgiving feast at Vict0ry's Banner that always looks tempting (and pricey).

I just ate some celery (céleri) for breakfast. Does that make me a better person?

― Kittens Licking Cakes (coco), Friday, 4 November 2005 15:35 (twenty years ago)

Is celery all you ate for breakfast? I would have to at least put some peanut butter in that mess. And some raisins, because you're never too old for ants on a log!

― pullapartgirl (pullapartgirl), Friday, 4 November 2005 15:36 (twenty years ago)

I don't like...celery. Raw celery, at least.

― Jordan (Jordan), Friday, 4 November 2005 15:37 (twenty years ago)

I mean, it's not as bad as raw onions, but the stringiness freaks me out.

― Jordan (Jordan), Friday, 4 November 2005 15:37 (twenty years ago)

I love celery, but it's not enough for breakfast. I think you spend more calories eating celery than you get from it.

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Friday, 4 November 2005 15:38 (twenty years ago)

JENNY: Thank you for the invitation. I would be more inclined to do the lasagna + peanut butter pie thing because I don't eat meat and because I love peanut butter pie. Here's a kinda funny peanut butter pie story: When my dad first started dating my mom and she brought him home to meet her parents, my grandma made peanut butter pie and my dad made a big deal about how delicious it was. Now every time we go back to Florida, my grandmother makes him a peanut butter pie, of which he is kind of sick, but he has to make a big deal about it every time.

― n/a (Nick A.), Friday, 4 November 2005 15:38 (twenty years ago)

Haha.

― Jordan (Jordan), Friday, 4 November 2005 15:40 (twenty years ago)

That's what he gets for complimenting old ladies.

― pullapartgirl (pullapartgirl), Friday, 4 November 2005 15:40 (twenty years ago)

I didn't have anything for breakfast this morning at home, unless you count coffee, so I was starving at my desk and raided the fridge. Plain raw celery was the only thing I had in there. Thus, brekkies.

― Kittens Licking Cakes (coco), Friday, 4 November 2005 15:45 (twenty years ago)

I also think raw celery is freaky.

― jocelyn (Jocelyn), Friday, 4 November 2005 15:48 (twenty years ago)

http://www.audiobooksonline.com/shopsite/media/0807282359.jpg

― jocelyn (Jocelyn), Friday, 4 November 2005 15:49 (twenty years ago)

I think cooked celery is freaky, but I am pretty cool with raw celery.

― pullapartgirl (pullapartgirl), Friday, 4 November 2005 15:53 (twenty years ago)

I hate when certain Chinese foods come with big ass pieces of cooked celery in them. *shudder*

― pullapartgirl (pullapartgirl), Friday, 4 November 2005 15:53 (twenty years ago)

I guess I was thinking more of chopped-up celery, like in soup or cajun food.

― Jordan (Jordan), Friday, 4 November 2005 15:54 (twenty years ago)

...after 15 years, I finally get the joke neatly folded into that title. The Celery STALKS at Midnight.

Zing!

Also: that link to the Chinese Students is the best thing ever. I just wish I could play it with sound.

― giboyeux (skowly), Friday, 4 November 2005 15:55 (twenty years ago)

Yeah, I prefer raw veggies to cooked most of the time. I just read the thread on ILCooking about porkpie and it's an effective antidote to thinking about celery. I've never had porkpie, but it seems pretty scary. I would taste it, maybe, but would not make it.

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Friday, 4 November 2005 15:55 (twenty years ago)

I love celery u r all gay

― Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Friday, 4 November 2005 15:58 (twenty years ago)

Amanda, when it comes to vegetables I am the cookin yin to your raw yang.

― Jordan (Jordan), Friday, 4 November 2005 15:59 (twenty years ago)

The Fake F1ctions: "Raw Yang"

― Jordan (Jordan), Friday, 4 November 2005 16:00 (twenty years ago)

That has a nice ring to it. RAW YANG. RAWYANG. RRAAWW YYAANNGG. It's vaguely dirty.

― n/a (Nick A.), Friday, 4 November 2005 16:02 (twenty years ago)

hahahahaha.

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Friday, 4 November 2005 16:02 (twenty years ago)

My Raw Yang: A love story

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Friday, 4 November 2005 16:03 (twenty years ago)

BLAHBLAHABLAHBLAHBLAHABLAHBLAHBLAHABLAHBLAHBLAHABLAHBLAHBLAHABLAHBLAHBLAHABLAHBLAHBLAHABLAHBLAHBLAHABLAHBLAHBLAHABLAHBLAHBLAHABLAHBLAHBLAHABLAHBLAHBLAHABLAHBLAHBLAHABLAHBLAHBLAHABLAHBLAHBLAHABLAHBLAHBLAHABLAH
raw yang
BLAHBLAHABLAHBLAHBLAHABLAHBLAHBLAHABLAHBLAHBLAHABLAHBLAHBLAHABLAHBLAHBLAHABLAHBLAHBLAHABLAHBLAHBLAHABLAHBLAHBLAHABLAHBLAHBLAHABLAHBLAHBLAHABLAHBLAHBLAHABLAHBLAHBLAHABLAHBLAHBLAHABLAHBLAHBLAHABLAHBLAHBLAHABLAH

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Friday, 4 November 2005 16:08 (twenty years ago)

I'm trying to decide what to wear to our show tomorrow night. Wardrobe crisis, OH NOOOEESSS!

Nick, I've decided FOR SURE I like your recent suggestion.

― Kittens Licking Cakes (coco), Friday, 4 November 2005 16:08 (twenty years ago)

Raw Yang - yes to the title!

Outfit for tomorrow night - don't forget your apron, S.!

My contribution to my second-grade class cookbook was celery with peanut butter. No raisins.

― Eazy (Eazy), Friday, 4 November 2005 16:09 (twenty years ago)

Haha.

Sarah, just wear your flapper gear.

― Jordan (Jordan), Friday, 4 November 2005 16:10 (twenty years ago)

Eric, alas, that wasn't my apron. I borrowed it.

My friend Sarah had no idea what I flapper was.

― Kittens Licking Cakes (coco), Friday, 4 November 2005 16:11 (twenty years ago)

my coffee is too hot to drink because a man with one arm used the rest of the milk not in his coffee

http://mypage.bluewin.ch/mattmatical/blog/coop.jpg http://www.dugpa.com/pics/mikelmfap.GIF

― jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 4 November 2005 16:12 (twenty years ago)

I, Flapper: A Love Story

xpost, jaymc that's how it was exactly!

― Jordan (Jordan), Friday, 4 November 2005 16:13 (twenty years ago)

Mmm.... pppiiiieeeee...

― Kittens Licking Cakes (coco), Friday, 4 November 2005 16:13 (twenty years ago)

Sarah, what recent suggestion? "New Fangs"? I don't like that one anymore. Now I like RAW YANG. Or "RAW YANG, NEW FANGS."

elyts ni kcab gnimoc si ekil uoy mug taht raeh I.

― n/a (Nick A.), Friday, 4 November 2005 16:16 (twenty years ago)

Would this username be too confusing?

― Kicking Littered Coke Cans (jaymc), Friday, 4 November 2005 16:17 (twenty years ago)

Raw Yang sounds kind of like Raw Id, but more mysterious.

― Eazy (Eazy), Friday, 4 November 2005 16:18 (twenty years ago)

The "w" is just close enough to the "-ang" to create phallic mystery.

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Friday, 4 November 2005 16:18 (twenty years ago)

Yes.

RAW YANG NEW SLANG

― n/a (Nick A.), Friday, 4 November 2005 16:19 (twenty years ago)

RAW YANG NEW FANG

― n/a (Nick A.), Friday, 4 November 2005 16:19 (twenty years ago)

no fangs.

― Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Friday, 4 November 2005 16:21 (twenty years ago)

rays wang

― bingo (Chris V), Friday, 4 November 2005 16:21 (twenty years ago)

How about "I Hear That Gum You Like is Coming Back in Style"?

― n/a (Nick A.), Friday, 4 November 2005 16:21 (twenty years ago)

fruit stripe?

― bingo (Chris V), Friday, 4 November 2005 16:22 (twenty years ago)

clove gum?

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Friday, 4 November 2005 16:22 (twenty years ago)

Too obv. of a reference.

― jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 4 November 2005 16:23 (twenty years ago)

I Hear That Gun You Like is Coming Back in Style

― Jordan (Jordan), Friday, 4 November 2005 16:23 (twenty years ago)

Chewels.

― jocelyn (Jocelyn), Friday, 4 November 2005 16:24 (twenty years ago)

wax lips

― bingo (Chris V), Friday, 4 November 2005 16:24 (twenty years ago)

Wax Lips, Raw Yang

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Friday, 4 November 2005 16:25 (twenty years ago)

Y'all Rang?

― Eazy (Eazy), Friday, 4 November 2005 16:26 (twenty years ago)

Yeah, I guess New Fangs is too much like New Slang.

― Kittens Licking Cakes (coco), Friday, 4 November 2005 16:26 (twenty years ago)

http://mikedsfreakywebsite.tripod.com/vampireteeth30.jpg

― bingo (Chris V), Friday, 4 November 2005 16:27 (twenty years ago)

I kind of have some Billy C0rganesque fangs going on though.

― Kittens Licking Cakes (coco), Friday, 4 November 2005 16:27 (twenty years ago)

You can have that name, John.

― Prancing Animals (coco), Friday, 4 November 2005 16:28 (twenty years ago)

Not that this matters, but it surprised me the other day when I learned that Joan of Arcadia is Dr. Jacoby's daughter.

― jocelyn (Jocelyn), Friday, 4 November 2005 16:30 (twenty years ago)

It just occurred to me while half-asleep on the train this morning. I don't think I actually want to use it, though.

― Kicking Littered Coke Cans (jaymc), Friday, 4 November 2005 16:31 (twenty years ago)

Totally, jocelyn. Russ and Amber Tamblyn.

― jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 4 November 2005 16:31 (twenty years ago)

http://images.hollywood.com/images/large/l_2442099.jpg

― jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 4 November 2005 16:32 (twenty years ago)

I don't know if that Shins album is good, but New Slang is a hot title.

― Jordan (Jordan), Friday, 4 November 2005 16:32 (twenty years ago)

Well, this is my name now either way.

― Prancing Animals (coco), Friday, 4 November 2005 16:33 (twenty years ago)

Does anyone have anything by Josephine Foster that they would like to share with me? I read that article in the Reader this morning and I think I would like her (she has been compared to Shirley Collins, who I adore!) but I don't know if I want to gamble on a whole CD before I even hear it.

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Friday, 4 November 2005 16:35 (twenty years ago)

I can't find any pics of Russ Tamblyn in Cabin Boy. :(

― Jordan (Jordan), Friday, 4 November 2005 16:36 (twenty years ago)

Russ Tamblyn was in Cabin Boy?!

― jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 4 November 2005 16:36 (twenty years ago)

I'm unhealthily excited about Chris Elliot's Jack the Ripper parody book.

― jocelyn (Jocelyn), Friday, 4 November 2005 16:37 (twenty years ago)

I have the front door propped open and it is WONDERFUL here at my desk.

― Prancing Animals (coco), Friday, 4 November 2005 16:37 (twenty years ago)

Today would be a good day to play hooky.

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Friday, 4 November 2005 16:38 (twenty years ago)

Russ Tamblyn was in Cabin Boy?!

He was the man-shark!

― Jordan (Jordan), Friday, 4 November 2005 16:38 (twenty years ago)

Maddie is playing hooky today. I would have stayed home too, but we are arguing, or making up, or something at the moment. :(

― Jordan (Jordan), Friday, 4 November 2005 16:41 (twenty years ago)

I found mp3s. Never mind. She's super pretty too!

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Friday, 4 November 2005 16:42 (twenty years ago)

I have her album, I can burn the whole thing for you.

THat reminds me, when and if you come over for thanksgiving, I'll burn you all those dvds I've been promising.

― Jeff-PTTL (Jeff), Friday, 4 November 2005 16:43 (twenty years ago)

Anybody want to split the cost of this?

― Jeff-PTTL (Jeff), Friday, 4 November 2005 16:45 (twenty years ago)

Wow.

― Jordan (Jordan), Friday, 4 November 2005 16:47 (twenty years ago)

There's also the Deschanel family/Twin Peaks connection. STARS OF TWIN PEAKS BE HAVIN FAMOUS HOTTT BABIES.

― n/a (Nick A.), Friday, 4 November 2005 16:47 (twenty years ago)

Ok, Josephine Foster, you just got yourself a NEW FAN. I am also pleased that she and someone else are doing a version of 'Are You Going to Leave Me' - what a song. I've only heard Shirley/Dolly C's version of it - but I love it. Love love love love love it.

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Friday, 4 November 2005 16:50 (twenty years ago)

You have everything, don't you, Jeff.

― jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 4 November 2005 16:52 (twenty years ago)

Thanks for the offer Jeff - I just bought her latest album. I want her to have my money. I am pleased for her to have my money.

If anyone wants to hear 'Are You Going to Leave Me' I YSI'ed it right here.

But it's formatted for itunes, so you have to use that to hear it.

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Friday, 4 November 2005 17:01 (twenty years ago)

A coworker just let me eat 2 french fries. Heaven is a place on earth.

― Prancing Animals (coco), Friday, 4 November 2005 17:26 (twenty years ago)

Sometimes two french fries are better than twenty-five french fries.

― Jordan (Jordan), Friday, 4 November 2005 17:28 (twenty years ago)

Is that a zen koan?

― jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 4 November 2005 17:28 (twenty years ago)

I am awaiting my VEGETARIAN SAMPLER from the Mediterranean place.

― n/a (Nick A.), Friday, 4 November 2005 17:48 (twenty years ago)

You have everything, don't you, Jeff.

I have a lot. I really like the Josephine's record. I don't think Jenny does though.

― Jeff-PTTL (Jeff), Friday, 4 November 2005 17:54 (twenty years ago)

BOO YAH! I've been working on stuffing envelopes all yesterday and today, which is a pain in the ass. I finished all the ones for the US and Canada, but there were still about 300 left to go to international locations. I emailed my boss and told her much it was going to cost and she emailed back and said NOT TO DO THEM. This saves me so much work, it was going to take me all afternoon to get them all out. Yay.

― n/a (Nick A.), Friday, 4 November 2005 17:54 (twenty years ago)

WWWWWEEEEEEKKKKEEEEENNNDDDD OFFFFFFFF RRRROOOOOCCCCCKKKKKK!!!!!!

― n/a (Nick A.), Friday, 4 November 2005 18:01 (twenty years ago)

I'm not really sure why it's a weekend of rock, there's a good chance that our own show will be the only rock show I go to this weekend. But it is, nonetheless, a weekend of rock.

― n/a (Nick A.), Friday, 4 November 2005 18:08 (twenty years ago)

I was reading that as "Weekend Off Rock."

― jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 4 November 2005 18:13 (twenty years ago)

"Hey, you want some rock?"

"No way man. I'm taking it easy this weekend."

― Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Friday, 4 November 2005 18:21 (twenty years ago)

This will be the weekend of smoooooth.

― Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Friday, 4 November 2005 18:22 (twenty years ago)

This will be the weekend of (Naglich/Karlan)women be shoppin'.
Do you think that I would like Josephine? I think I will.

― jocelyn (Jocelyn), Friday, 4 November 2005 18:26 (twenty years ago)

We're going to watch John Carpenter's "Prince of Darkness" at a friend's house tonight, and after that I have zero weekend plans.

I first saw this movie when I was a freshman in high school and it was notoriously (among my group of friends) boring then. Hopefully it will be less so now!

― Jordan (Jordan), Friday, 4 November 2005 18:28 (twenty years ago)

I remember thinking it was really boring too, but I haven't seen it since it came out.
I watched Old Boy on Tuesday and it's been worming it's way into my brain ever since.

― jocelyn (Jocelyn), Friday, 4 November 2005 18:30 (twenty years ago)

Jocelyn - I do think you would like JF! If you google her name you will find mp3 samples. Which reminds me - iImeant to tell you that I enjoyed the Bluebeard book, but sort of wish the writing were better. There weren't really enough descriptive details for me. And if only the epilogue were left off! If the story had ended in utter chaos, feathers and blood it would have been so much better! It was sufficiently lurid though, satisfying my urge for that sort of thing. Thank you for the recommendation!!

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Friday, 4 November 2005 18:45 (twenty years ago)

I wasn't a big fan of the epilogue either, although I did like the mention of how she snapped the broomstick when she found her (undead) sisters talking to the wall.

― jocelyn (Jocelyn), Friday, 4 November 2005 18:46 (twenty years ago)

Yeah, that part was pretty good.

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Friday, 4 November 2005 18:49 (twenty years ago)

I just went MALLWALKING.

― Jordan (Jordan), Friday, 4 November 2005 18:52 (twenty years ago)

I saw a sad elderly man at the library who had a peestain on his pants. A fresh one. Poor guy.

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Friday, 4 November 2005 18:53 (twenty years ago)

I know, I know. I'm a horrible person and someday I will be covered with peestains for having made that comment today.

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Friday, 4 November 2005 18:59 (twenty years ago)

It inspired me to do a search for the word "peestain" in the ILE archive. You're the only person who's ever said it.

― jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 4 November 2005 19:00 (twenty years ago)

It's not like you were making fun of him. Although I like how your comment was prompted by "mallwalking".

― Jordan (Jordan), Friday, 4 November 2005 19:00 (twenty years ago)

I hope they're tracking your searches at your job, Jaymc.

― Eazy (Eazy), Friday, 4 November 2005 19:01 (twenty years ago)

Weekend of smooth.

― Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Friday, 4 November 2005 19:01 (twenty years ago)

You're the only person who's ever said it.
Oh, sweet infamy.

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Friday, 4 November 2005 19:02 (twenty years ago)

Weekend of peestains.

― Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Friday, 4 November 2005 19:03 (twenty years ago)

Actually, Jordan is the only person who's ever said "mallwalking," too.

― jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 4 November 2005 19:04 (twenty years ago)

No way.

― Jordan (Jordan), Friday, 4 November 2005 19:05 (twenty years ago)

Yes way. Unless the search is fucked.

― jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 4 November 2005 19:06 (twenty years ago)

We are PIONEERS.
http://www.johnkittelsonwoodcarvings.com/images/conestoga_wagon_L.jpg

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Friday, 4 November 2005 19:07 (twenty years ago)

http://www.missoulian.com/specials/salute/posters/posters-print/Engineers.gif

― Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Friday, 4 November 2005 19:08 (twenty years ago)

I like this one.

― Prancing Animals (coco), Friday, 4 November 2005 19:10 (twenty years ago)

Pretty colors are my job.

― Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Friday, 4 November 2005 19:11 (twenty years ago)

How's this?

― Prancing Animals (coco), Friday, 4 November 2005 19:12 (twenty years ago)

Aaaa! My eyes!

― Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Friday, 4 November 2005 19:13 (twenty years ago)

http://www.dangerousuniverse.com/2005/03/dysentery.372.gallery_norma.jpg

― jocelyn (Jocelyn), Friday, 4 November 2005 19:13 (twenty years ago)

Better?

― Prancing Animals (coco), Friday, 4 November 2005 19:13 (twenty years ago)

I had a delicious lunch: salad, baked potato, and a small chocolate shake.

― Prancing Animals (coco), Friday, 4 November 2005 19:14 (twenty years ago)

Green!

― Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Friday, 4 November 2005 19:16 (twenty years ago)

haha that's not green at all.

― Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Friday, 4 November 2005 19:16 (twenty years ago)

It was a colorless green idea.

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Friday, 4 November 2005 19:17 (twenty years ago)

I am envious of everyone else's seemingly happy lives.

― Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Friday, 4 November 2005 19:18 (twenty years ago)

Hooray! Green at last!

― Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Friday, 4 November 2005 19:18 (twenty years ago)

Green

― Prancing Animals (coco), Friday, 4 November 2005 19:19 (twenty years ago)

So oddly pretty. It's like when you take a lot of acid.

― Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Friday, 4 November 2005 19:24 (twenty years ago)

It's a bring your dog to work afternoon, a.k.a. the bosses are out afternoon. CIH brought in her kids again. She's having them carry work over to me, but they are so cute that it makes it easier.

― Prancing Animals (coco), Friday, 4 November 2005 19:30 (twenty years ago)

I can't imagine kids in this office. Not even cute ones. Strippers, maybe, but not kids.

― Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Friday, 4 November 2005 19:31 (twenty years ago)

hey kenan i just looked up your top model gf on myspace and she has something to tell you:

"Im a skinny ass bitch that likes to poke holes in things, mainly my flesh. I like to run around in circles screaming to get people to look at me. I have no friends because they to move away or make me hate them. I talk alot of shit but, Im to nice for my own good. I tent to get walked on and used alot. But I will mame some one if I have to. I like to drink coffee till I have the shakes and giggel all the time for no reason. Everyone i know is lame so i like to meet people on the internet that live far far away and call them my friends. "

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Friday, 4 November 2005 19:33 (twenty years ago)

Hm. Not the best speller. I can't help it, that's a turnoff.

But other than that... hot. I like 'em crazy! I can save her, I know I can!

(hey, what's the link to that page?)

― Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Friday, 4 November 2005 19:35 (twenty years ago)

Come and get it, big guy.

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Friday, 4 November 2005 19:36 (twenty years ago)

I just took a totally useless career test. It said I was interested in artistic and scientific endeavors. No shit.

― n/a (Nick A.), Friday, 4 November 2005 19:40 (twenty years ago)

literati, nick?

― Prancing Animals (coco), Friday, 4 November 2005 19:45 (twenty years ago)

Mmmmmaybe a little later, I have a couple of things I need to get done here first.

― n/a (Nick A.), Friday, 4 November 2005 19:47 (twenty years ago)

I am so so so so so tired of saying the same thing over and over on the phone. Maybe it's time for a pear.

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Friday, 4 November 2005 19:48 (twenty years ago)

Maybe you should say "Time for a pear" over the phone for a change. Or start using the phone to talk to pears.

― pullapartgirl (pullapartgirl), Friday, 4 November 2005 19:59 (twenty years ago)

I don't think ciabatta was the best choice for this sandwich. I should've gone with pumpernickel. This is what happens when they give you too much choice, like at Jordan's deli.

― jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 4 November 2005 19:59 (twenty years ago)

What'S on the sandwich?

― Jordan (Jordan), Friday, 4 November 2005 20:00 (twenty years ago)

Hey, lookit, a Metafilter thread that asks: Is Maureen Dowd necessary?

― pullapartgirl (pullapartgirl), Friday, 4 November 2005 20:00 (twenty years ago)

Provolone, cheddar, tomato, cucumber, lettuce, red onions, and chipotle mayo.

― jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 4 November 2005 20:00 (twenty years ago)

Actually I've decided to put off everything I have to do until Monday, if anyone (including Sarah) is up for literati.

― n/a (Nick A.), Friday, 4 November 2005 20:01 (twenty years ago)

I should've chosen a softer, less salty bread to neutralize the effects of the onions and chipotle.

― jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 4 November 2005 20:02 (twenty years ago)

Interesting. How could you have known?

― Jordan (Jordan), Friday, 4 November 2005 20:03 (twenty years ago)

I don't think I was quite clear on what ciabatta was, to be honest.

― jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 4 November 2005 20:07 (twenty years ago)

Focaccia would've been good.

― jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 4 November 2005 20:07 (twenty years ago)

I wonder if Kelsey's still sick -- she went home early yesterday.

― jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 4 November 2005 20:13 (twenty years ago)

Workin' hard - can't literati yet...

― Eazy (Eazy), Friday, 4 November 2005 20:14 (twenty years ago)

I'd love to, but I'm actually getting some work done now.

― Jordan (Jordan), Friday, 4 November 2005 20:15 (twenty years ago)

Fake Fictions: IMPORTANT INFORMATION FOR SQUIRRELS

― pullapartgirl (pullapartgirl), Friday, 4 November 2005 20:19 (twenty years ago)

I am bored but also feel like there is stuff I'm supposed to be getting done. I am trying to do research online to find a place in Chicago I can go for employment counseling/career planning (yes, still) but not having much luck. They are all basically headhunters or strictly resume writers.

― n/a (Nick A.), Friday, 4 November 2005 20:23 (twenty years ago)

Take Jesse with you. He wants out of the food service biz and we're career counselling him on FRM. I think he should be a jewelry salesman.

― pullapartgirl (pullapartgirl), Friday, 4 November 2005 20:24 (twenty years ago)

I kind of like "Important Information for Squirrels," although I might shorten it to just "Information for Squirrels."

― jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 4 November 2005 20:25 (twenty years ago)

No! It has to be IMPORTANT.

IMPORTANT

― Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Friday, 4 November 2005 20:27 (twenty years ago)

Raw Yang >>>>> that squirrel business

― giboyeux (skowly), Friday, 4 November 2005 20:27 (twenty years ago)

Whatever.

― pullapartgirl (pullapartgirl), Friday, 4 November 2005 20:28 (twenty years ago)

I found this place, but it seems...weird. Like, they have half-hour sessions. How much can they figure out over the phone in half an hour? Still, it's the closest I've found to what I'm looking for.

― n/a (Nick A.), Friday, 4 November 2005 20:29 (twenty years ago)

Fake Fictions: Paranoid Lizards of the World
(A once misread book title on the shelf across from me)

― jocelyn (Jocelyn), Friday, 4 November 2005 20:30 (twenty years ago)

http://www.wrhickey.com/images/Eagle%20w%20script.jpg

― jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 4 November 2005 20:30 (twenty years ago)

http://giganticmag.com/images/ilx/important_squirrel.jpg

― Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Friday, 4 November 2005 20:35 (twenty years ago)

Whatever.

I'm just saying.

I still think they should go with "Awesome Party."

― giboyeux (skowly), Friday, 4 November 2005 20:38 (twenty years ago)

Hey, Yuengling, weird. We just watched a computer generated reinactment of a woman getting run over by a Mack truck in Philadelphia.

COINCIDENCE?

xpost: Awesome Party is pretty good, too, but IMPORTANT INFORMATION FOR SQUIRRELS ABOUT AN AWESOME PARTY is even better.

― pullapartgirl (pullapartgirl), Friday, 4 November 2005 20:38 (twenty years ago)

The Fake Fictions: Is This Pudding?

― Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Friday, 4 November 2005 20:39 (twenty years ago)

Oooo that's good, too.

― pullapartgirl (pullapartgirl), Friday, 4 November 2005 20:40 (twenty years ago)

I love butterscotch pudding. I haven't had it in a very long time. Even better? Butterscotch pie (ie: with graham cracker crumbs),

― Prancing Animals (coco), Friday, 4 November 2005 20:41 (twenty years ago)

While cleaning the litterbox last night, I was thinking about naming an album "Songs for Cleaning the Litterbox", or "Litterbox Shanties".

― Jordan (Jordan), Friday, 4 November 2005 20:42 (twenty years ago)

What about, You Call That Pudding??

I need to make up a litter-scooping song to motivate myself to do it.

― Prancing Animals (coco), Friday, 4 November 2005 20:42 (twenty years ago)

I was singing about litter-scooping to the tune of "I'll Fly Away".

― Jordan (Jordan), Friday, 4 November 2005 20:43 (twenty years ago)

Instead of "No more cold iron shackles on my feet/I'll fly away" it was "No more cat poop in the litter box/I cleaned it up". That was about as far as I got.

― Jordan (Jordan), Friday, 4 November 2005 20:44 (twenty years ago)

Whenever I clean the litterbox, I sing a song called "Cold as Ice" that John has never heard by a band called Foreigner, because it goes:

You're digging for gold
You're going your way
A fortune in feelings
But SOME DAY YOU'LL PAY!!!!

It's the digging for gold part that gets me.

― pullapartgirl (pullapartgirl), Friday, 4 November 2005 20:44 (twenty years ago)

Date: 04 Nov 2005 14:59:10 EST
From: Fake Fictions
Subject: Imporant info (re: Awesome Party)
To: Squirrels

― giboyeux (skowly), Friday, 4 November 2005 20:45 (twenty years ago)

hahahahahahahahah OMG Jenny.

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Friday, 4 November 2005 20:45 (twenty years ago)

You're going your way

Surely it's "You're throwing away /
A fortune in feelings" etc.

― Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Friday, 4 November 2005 20:47 (twenty years ago)

YR AS COLD AS ICE
YR WILLING TO SACRIFICE YOUR LOVE

― n/a (Nick A.), Friday, 4 November 2005 20:48 (twenty years ago)

What is that? / Who is that? / Wharr'd ya get that? / Is that pudding?

― jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 4 November 2005 20:49 (twenty years ago)

Yes, I've never heard this "Cold as Ice" song.

― jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 4 November 2005 20:49 (twenty years ago)

Where would John have heard that song? I mean, seriously? (hee hee, don't kill me)

I think I need to make an i-pod playlist for cleaning out the litterbox. Sure, it doesn't take that long, but it would be funny... to me.

― Prancing Animals (coco), Friday, 4 November 2005 20:50 (twenty years ago)

I have a horrible Sebadoh cover of that song on my computer at home.

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Friday, 4 November 2005 20:51 (twenty years ago)

http://www.livejournal.com/userpic/10196915/1508998

― Jordan (Jordan), Friday, 4 November 2005 20:51 (twenty years ago)

That's right. Lou Barlow does Lou Gramm.

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Friday, 4 November 2005 20:51 (twenty years ago)

http://content.answers.com/main/content/wp/en/thumb/2/2f/250px-Movie_video_cover_cool_as_ice.jpg

― jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 4 November 2005 20:52 (twenty years ago)

I kind of like AWESOME PARTY.

― n/a (Nick A.), Friday, 4 November 2005 20:52 (twenty years ago)

This photo is from a seafood festival:

http://www.destinseafoodfestival.org/images/lou_gramm.jpg

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Friday, 4 November 2005 20:52 (twenty years ago)

I do too, Nick. I do too.

― Prancing Animals (coco), Friday, 4 November 2005 20:52 (twenty years ago)

It actually fits with the cover art idea we came up with.

― n/a (Nick A.), Friday, 4 November 2005 20:55 (twenty years ago)

Uh-huh. Now all we have to do is try to convince Ben he came up with the idea. You know, like prod him on until he says this one and gets all excited about it. Then we'll be unsure for a second and then... You know... That IS a good idea! Way to go, Ben!

― Prancing Animals (coco), Friday, 4 November 2005 20:58 (twenty years ago)

What's the cover art?

(I like it too!)

― giboyeux (skowly), Friday, 4 November 2005 21:00 (twenty years ago)

I've been cleaning out the cat box/all the live long day
I've been cleaning out the cat box/just to pass the poop away
Can't you smell the feces smelling? Rise up early in the morn..
Can't you hear your partner shouting? Change that goddamned cat box.

― jocelyn (Jocelyn), Friday, 4 November 2005 21:00 (twenty years ago)

"Hmmm, what about Awesome Gathering...no...maybe Radical Party?"

― Jordan (Jordan), Friday, 4 November 2005 21:00 (twenty years ago)

That's prefect, jocelyn. I bet my great-grandmother will dance in her grave when I sing it (her husband worked on the railroad and she used to sing that song all the time, second only to Dixie).

― Prancing Animals (coco), Friday, 4 November 2005 21:02 (twenty years ago)

Kenan, if you're around, we can give you a ride home today if you want.

― n/a (Nick A.), Friday, 4 November 2005 21:03 (twenty years ago)

God I can't wait to go home in an hour. Evidentally I am now going to a party where we are going to watch IRONIC softcore porn.

― jocelyn (Jocelyn), Friday, 4 November 2005 21:04 (twenty years ago)

Followed by ironic group sex?

― Jordan (Jordan), Friday, 4 November 2005 21:05 (twenty years ago)

God I hope not.

― jocelyn (Jocelyn), Friday, 4 November 2005 21:07 (twenty years ago)

sounds like quite a friday night.

― Juulia (julesbdules), Friday, 4 November 2005 21:07 (twenty years ago)

What is considered ironic soft porn? Is it just regular soft porn which you watch with a smirk?

― Prancing Animals (coco), Friday, 4 November 2005 21:10 (twenty years ago)

It's some Lord of the Rings parody thing that's so bad it's funny. (Supposedly) I don't think it involves anything other than boobs, really.

― jocelyn (Jocelyn), Friday, 4 November 2005 21:12 (twenty years ago)

http://www.theonion.com/content/node/38979

― n/a (Nick A.), Friday, 4 November 2005 21:12 (twenty years ago)

Haha, I was just about to search for that.

― Jordan (Jordan), Friday, 4 November 2005 21:15 (twenty years ago)

I just reread it, it's a classic. The last paragraph in particular is a good capper.

― n/a (Nick A.), Friday, 4 November 2005 21:15 (twenty years ago)

xxpost I know what that stpry is without even clicking on the link. It's a classic.

Yes, I would very much enjoy a ride home.

― Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Friday, 4 November 2005 21:17 (twenty years ago)

Catbox stinkin' in the dead of night...

― Eazy (Eazy), Friday, 4 November 2005 21:28 (twenty years ago)

(hey man) you can’t just let it, you know
(hey man) this place is smelling like shit
(hey man) Once you walk in the door
It smells like your cat has been peein’ on the floor

I gotta lean on you man, cause the smell is insane
The cat box is shitty!
I gotta lean on you man
Cause the neighbors are complainin’
That the cat box is shitty!

― Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Friday, 4 November 2005 21:44 (twenty years ago)

hhahhahahahaha oh dear.

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Friday, 4 November 2005 21:45 (twenty years ago)

awwwwwwwwww wham bam, litter pan.

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Friday, 4 November 2005 21:47 (twenty years ago)

I think I'm going to sneak out a lil' early today.

― Jordan (Jordan), Friday, 4 November 2005 22:27 (twenty years ago)

Have a great weekend, you guys.

― Prancing Animals (coco), Friday, 4 November 2005 22:29 (twenty years ago)

Sarah and I just had a RIPPING game of Literati! She took an early lead, I started to creep my way back up, I took the lead near the end but then she astounded me with a late-game 15-point word that decided it all.

― n/a (Nick A.), Friday, 4 November 2005 22:31 (twenty years ago)

And that word was...?

― jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 4 November 2005 22:33 (twenty years ago)

"cooter"

― Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Friday, 4 November 2005 22:49 (twenty years ago)

Hey, wait for me for a minute, guys. I have to grab my paycheck, and that can take as many as three extra minutes.

― Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Friday, 4 November 2005 22:50 (twenty years ago)

OH OK KENAN

― n/a (Nick A.), Friday, 4 November 2005 22:50 (twenty years ago)

awwwwwwwwww wham bam, litter pan.

HAHAHAHAHAHAHA! Holy moly.

Yes, Kenan, that surely is the correct lyric. I didn't bother to fact check myself and went from memory.

Also, Evan, that email subject header thingie made me laugh until I coughed.

― pullapartgirl (pullapartgirl), Friday, 4 November 2005 23:01 (twenty years ago)

s'okay Jenny. I just don't want you to suffer the embarassment of singing it wrong when you're all alone. *shudder*

I'm at Jessa's place (while she's in Ireland for three weeks) watching bad cable. Friday Night Standup. Oh, the lows I have sunk to. But wait: I did get my favorite new sexual metaphor for the week. "Harder than a left turn downtown."

― Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Saturday, 5 November 2005 02:42 (twenty years ago)

So, it's Friday. Let's talk REJECTION.

No? Anyone? 2.30am?

Huh... That's weird.

― giboyeux (skowly), Saturday, 5 November 2005 08:24 (twenty years ago)

I thought everyone would be awake and willing.

That's.....SO strange.

― giboyeux (skowly), Saturday, 5 November 2005 08:29 (twenty years ago)

― jaymc (jaymc), Saturday, 5 November 2005 10:52 (twenty years ago)

Morning guys.

― Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Saturday, 5 November 2005 11:02 (twenty years ago)

Dude, I'm dead tired and drunk. It is not morning yet.

― jaymc (jaymc), Saturday, 5 November 2005 11:04 (twenty years ago)

I woke up at three, after passing out on the sofa. Started watching TV. Found a whole nest of Real Sex on HBO On Demand. The orgasm special was my favorite. I especially loved the Japanese porn director who once did straight-up porn, until one day one of his actresses told him that he didn't understand anything about the female sexual experience. Instead of getting angry or defensive, he made it his work to give women better orgasms. Now his films focus on women who have orgasms without being touched. He has a lot of satisfied actresses, it seems. Also, there was a man who taught the Native American Kama Sutra to his clients. His theories of "spiritual sexuality" seemed sound -- less "spiritual" than true. He classified the different types of men's and women's genitalia into categories (of course with animal names). "This is a deer woman, and as you can see the clitoris is very close to the vaginal opening..." I knew there were different types of vaginas, but for some reason it had never occurred to me to treat them differently.

Anyway. Morning Chicago. Am I being creepy again? Sorry, I find this stuff fascinating.

― Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Saturday, 5 November 2005 11:11 (twenty years ago)

Also, all women fake it. Not all the time, but all women do it sometimes. All of them, without exception. Somewhere there is an island culture, untouched by the outside world, completely unfamiliar with Western or any other customs, and the women are lying about how often they come. And I always say, "Well, I know the difference." And the truth is that I probably do, but I don't always want to know the difference. So a faked orgasm requires two parties to really work -- one to fake it, and one to believe it.

The sun is coming up.

― Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Saturday, 5 November 2005 11:40 (twenty years ago)

That's assuming all women need to 'convince' their partner that they reached a place that they didn't actually reach instead of either a) keeping the faith and getting to that place or b) just not getting to that place that particular time.

Oh, hey, good morning, Chicago. My new bedroom faces east, and I've been waking up early.

― Eazy (Eazy), Saturday, 5 November 2005 12:40 (twenty years ago)

I'm up too early for a Saturday! I blame the cats (MEOW I AM SO MEOW HUNGRY MEOW I AM MEOW DYING MEOW GET UP MEOW OH MY GOD MEOW) and Killer Cold, Part 2.

Francie is sitting in the window, chirping at birds.

Gib, rejection? I find that hard to believe. You're very cute and charming. Fuck a ho - she was obviously too dumb to comprehend what she was being offered.

Or you were so sloppy drunk that nobody in her right mind would go home with you, in case you peed the bed.

― pullapartgirl (pullapartgirl), Saturday, 5 November 2005 13:47 (twenty years ago)

That's assuming all women need to 'convince' their partner that they reached a place that they didn't actually reach

OK, good point. It's not essential that a woman comes, certainly not by way of intercourse. I like girly orgasms as much as the next guy, prolly more, but it has been a huge revelation to me that it's not as big a deal to them as it is to us. It's true, I have known women who have assured me they never faked anything, and I believed them. These women were awful lovers, and bad liars. I would surely prefer women who were totally honest.

― Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Saturday, 5 November 2005 15:30 (twenty years ago)

Or you were so sloppy drunk that nobody in her right mind would go home with you, in case you peed the bed.

Well. That's not ENTIRELY true. Not the peeing part, at least.

Thanks, though. I've got one more shot tonight! Let's do this thing!

― giboyeux (skowly), Saturday, 5 November 2005 16:45 (twenty years ago)

OMG next quote of the week:

"If men got pregnant, you could get an abortion at Supercuts."

― Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Saturday, 5 November 2005 17:13 (twenty years ago)

Those generalizations about women are absolutely maddening, Kenan.

― jaymc (jaymc), Saturday, 5 November 2005 18:07 (twenty years ago)

...that sounds like a generalization about men, to me.

― giboyeux (skowly), Saturday, 5 November 2005 18:22 (twenty years ago)

maddening?

― Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Saturday, 5 November 2005 18:28 (twenty years ago)

Dude, ok, love you to death and all, but your reaction is maddening to me. As if you know soooo much more about women than I do, when my whole point is that none of us dudes really know shit.

All of them, without exception.

I will retract this, as it is kinda silly, amd more reflective of my own insecurity than anything else.

― Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Saturday, 5 November 2005 18:33 (twenty years ago)

Are people on I Love Cooking nice? I am having this bizarre obsession/love affair with winter squash and I want to talk about all the glories of winter squash in its many forms to an audience who might share my obsession, but not if they are going to holler at me for posting about it.

― pullapartgirl (pullapartgirl), Saturday, 5 November 2005 19:26 (twenty years ago)

We are the mildest-mannered board at ILX. We don't holler at anybody, unless we're hollering "OMG GUESS WHAT I ATE!" I think there may already be a winter squash thread you can jump into.

― I do feel guilty for getting any perverse amusement out of it (Rock Hardy), Saturday, 5 November 2005 20:12 (twenty years ago)

Go ahead and tell us about your squash love. I just got back from Flat Top, where I had lots of vegetables and shrimp while doing much pen-and-paper journal-writing and reading Alex Ross's entertaining reviews.

The only thing I would holler at is endless descriptions of dreams. As Henry James said - "Describe a dream, lose a reader."

― Eazy (Eazy), Saturday, 5 November 2005 20:14 (twenty years ago)

Henry James put it better than that, even (I should've fact-checked first) - "Tell a dream, lose a reader."

― Eazy (Eazy), Saturday, 5 November 2005 20:16 (twenty years ago)

close enough. anyone feel like a weekend game of literati?

i am so fucking sleepy, arrrgh.

― Juulia (julesbdules), Saturday, 5 November 2005 20:24 (twenty years ago)

Yeah, Julia - I gotta unpack boxes here, but I'd be up for a game - pick a room.

― Eazy (Eazy), Saturday, 5 November 2005 20:27 (twenty years ago)

intermediate/scholarship.

i am eating cream puffs from costco--fabulous stuff. it feels all decadent to eat cream puffs.

― Juulia (julesbdules), Saturday, 5 November 2005 20:29 (twenty years ago)

Come join us, anyone, and IM without feeling like a teenager.

I'm listening to Launchcast today, which I have to say is pretty great once you customize it. Hours of Keith Jarrett and Tiger Trap and Dolorean, a lot of good obscure stuff I don't own.

― Eazy (Eazy), Saturday, 5 November 2005 20:30 (twenty years ago)

I am deadly sleepy, but I can't sleep. Very fortunately, I found my favorite movie in the world On Demand.

Favorite movie in the world may seem a little grandiose. For a long time, I swore there was no way I could pick my favorite song in the world, but I finally did. It's "I Feel For You" by Chaka Khan. Think of all the great things going on there. Chaka sings, of course. Grandmaster raps, hilariously. Stevie Wonder plays harmonica. Prince wrote the whole silly affair. It's the finest moment of the 80's IMO.

Anyway, my favorite movie, I have decided, and will surely know when I'm a very old man, is Singin' In The Rain. So I'm off to watch that again.

― Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Saturday, 5 November 2005 20:55 (twenty years ago)

I also love that song, but like Prince's original version better. It's funkier and less obvious. Although I do miss the "Let me take you in my arms, let me fill you with my charms, Chaka" bit in the middle.

― pullapartgirl (pullapartgirl), Saturday, 5 November 2005 22:58 (twenty years ago)

Quick reminder/plug: FF tonight at Silvie's, 9 PM.

― n/a (Nick A.), Saturday, 5 November 2005 23:56 (twenty years ago)

Oh man, I would love to go, but I am afraid to go anywhere near cigarette smoke until the killer cold goes away, lest it morph into the COUGH THAT ATE MY SOUL pt 2.

Have fun and play great!

― pullapartgirl (pullapartgirl), Sunday, 6 November 2005 00:00 (twenty years ago)

Ok, someone really has to tell mwe what Silvie's is, because none of the usual sources have any idea. Is this one of those places with no liquor license? I'll never find it through legitimate channels.

― Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Sunday, 6 November 2005 01:01 (twenty years ago)

Which is to say: tell me what to tell the cab driver.

― Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Sunday, 6 November 2005 01:01 (twenty years ago)

On Irving Park just east of Lincoln/Damen/Irving Park six-way.

― Eazy (Eazy), Sunday, 6 November 2005 01:02 (twenty years ago)

thkx

― Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Sunday, 6 November 2005 01:09 (twenty years ago)

THAT IS A BLOCK FROM MY WORK.

I'd love to make it, but chances are slim.

― giboyeux (skowly), Sunday, 6 November 2005 01:17 (twenty years ago)

Are you at work???

― pullapartgirl (pullapartgirl), Sunday, 6 November 2005 01:46 (twenty years ago)

Well, okay, I couldn't find a thread about winter squash in general (found one about butternut squash and one about pumpkins) so here it goes:

I am totally obsessed with different kinds of winter squash. As of three days ago, we had four different winter squashes in our vegetable basket: spaghetti, butternut, butterCUP, and ambercup. Today we only have the ambercup squash left. I have a hankering to stuff it with a wild rice, mushroom, beef mixture, but I haven't found a recipe to consult and I'm not sure I'm ready to branch out on my own.

As for the other squashes, they have been dispatched as follows:

1. Spaghetti - cut in half, roasted for 40 minutes and then scraped out and mixed with olive oil, fresh herbs, parmesan and gruyere cheese, and some diced tomatoes.

2. Buttercup - baked with apples, as shown here. Amazingly delicious!

3. Acorn - peeled and cubed and tossed in the slow cooker with sauted onions, peppers, garlic, chipotles, and spices; pinto beans; corn; canned tomatoes; and chicken broth.

I want to get a delicata squash next. I also want to make squash soup and I think I'll make butternut squash lasagna for thanksgiving.

― pullapartgirl (pullapartgirl), Sunday, 6 November 2005 02:08 (twenty years ago)

Know yer squashes.

― pullapartgirl (pullapartgirl), Sunday, 6 November 2005 02:09 (twenty years ago)

Not at work. Wasn't at work.

Instead: playing Eat Poop You Cat with my friends!

― giboyeux (skowly), Sunday, 6 November 2005 04:01 (twenty years ago)

God, I gotta have some squash soup this fall - haven't yet!

― Eazy (Eazy), Sunday, 6 November 2005 17:38 (twenty years ago)

Roasted pumpkin seeds - it's not weird to eat the shell & all, is it?

― Jordan (Jordan), Sunday, 6 November 2005 22:26 (twenty years ago)

It never occured to me not to. How would you shell them?

― pullapartgirl (pullapartgirl), Sunday, 6 November 2005 22:30 (twenty years ago)

I don't know! Maddie claims she shelled them as a girl.

― Jordan (Jordan), Sunday, 6 November 2005 23:29 (twenty years ago)

Spaghetti Squash is weird. I can't help but look down on it, poor squash in spaghetti's clothing.
I love squash soup! They normally have a nice one at Einstein's, maybe I'll go there for lunch.

― jocelyn (Jocelyn), Monday, 7 November 2005 14:10 (twenty years ago)

Sarah -- I had a dream last night that featured YOU. You and your best friend (named "Kim") were going swimming at the beach in the small, seaside town where we both lived. I caught you out of the corner of my eye and went over to say hi, but you seemed sort of mad at me (I think I have latent guilt because I didn't make it to your show?!?!?!) But then we made up and decided to visit this van that sells french fries, "The best on the Jersey shore" says you, in my dream.

The end.

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Monday, 7 November 2005 14:18 (twenty years ago)

I had wonderful, wonderful dreams last night, in a very fluffy bed with lots of blankets. I feel refreshed and happy. This does not happen every day.

― Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Monday, 7 November 2005 14:47 (twenty years ago)

Was it your bed?

― Jordan (Jordan), Monday, 7 November 2005 14:53 (twenty years ago)

It was not! But alas, I was alone in it.

― Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Monday, 7 November 2005 14:56 (twenty years ago)

Full disclosure: I'm housesitting for Jessa, watching her television, playing with her cat, and as of last night, sleeping in her bed. I may as well just move back in.

― Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Monday, 7 November 2005 14:57 (twenty years ago)

Just ask first before you repaint the place.

― Eazy (Eazy), Monday, 7 November 2005 15:10 (twenty years ago)

So, Kenan, You were going to go to the show but then you didn't? Anyway, it was a lot of fun. J0hn and Eazy were there, as were a bunch of other dudes who actually danced.

Also, the Veruca Salt show was fun last night. I'm not even that sleepy today (yet anyway).

― Prancing Animals (coco), Monday, 7 November 2005 15:29 (twenty years ago)

I'm glad it went well!! I'm sorry I didn't go.

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Monday, 7 November 2005 15:32 (twenty years ago)

So, Kenan, You were going to go to the show but then you didn't?

I was going to go to the show and then over to Julia's place, but then I remembered that there's a curfew in her building and I likely wouldn't make it.

― Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Monday, 7 November 2005 15:33 (twenty years ago)

OK, I'm playing Lit against someone with a 49-4 win-loss record - I think I can crack 'im.

Very fun show Sat. night, Sarah - first time I'd seen a whole set by you guys. (I was at the Ice Factory blizzard show last Jan., but I think I was in the back room, or at least catching up with friends during that set.)

― Eazy (Eazy), Monday, 7 November 2005 15:34 (twenty years ago)

We saw Juliette Lewis yesterday at the Chicago Music Exchange. She looked like Juliette Lewis.

― n/a (Nick A.), Monday, 7 November 2005 15:37 (twenty years ago)

Hi.
Votre weekend, c'etait bein passee?
Mine was fabulous.
Do any of you like the band The Lovemakers? Because I really do.
Hi.

― Prancing Animals (coco), Monday, 7 November 2005 16:16 (twenty years ago)

I was in the Dells this weekend. Getting it out of my system, as they say.

― kelsey (kelstarry), Monday, 7 November 2005 16:56 (twenty years ago)

Haha.

I had a pretty excellent weekend of not doing much at all. Watched horror movies, drank lots of beer, made muffaletas, carved a pumpkin, played Prince of Persia, blah etc. blah.

― Jordan (Jordan), Monday, 7 November 2005 16:58 (twenty years ago)

(xpost) haha!

― jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 7 November 2005 16:58 (twenty years ago)

When will they invent a program that just randomly posts "I AM BORED OH GOD" and "I HATE MY JOB OH GOD" on the Chicago threads so that I can quit ILX?

I had a good weekend, esp. the show on Sat night and the super-greasy pizza from Santullos afterwords.

― n/a (Nick A.), Monday, 7 November 2005 17:05 (twenty years ago)

"They" have invented that program. That program is me.

In restaurant terms, I am totally in the weeds right now. TOO MUCH TO DO, NO TIME TO DO IT. Feel like crying.

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Monday, 7 November 2005 17:09 (twenty years ago)

Talk to me...

I propped the front door open again. SO! NICE!

― Prancing Animals (coco), Monday, 7 November 2005 17:34 (twenty years ago)

My boss is only going to be in the office one day this week and two days next week. This is generally nice, but I get depressed when I have the whole day to avoid doing work and I end up playing on ILX all day. Help me think of projects I can do at my desk (other than look for a new job). NaNoWriMo might be good but I have trouble motivating myself to write at work. I should probably try and come up with some lyrics.

― n/a (Nick A.), Monday, 7 November 2005 17:38 (twenty years ago)

Literati?

― Jordan (Jordan), Monday, 7 November 2005 17:41 (twenty years ago)

Today is free donut/muffin/bagel day at work (this happens one day per month, when new hires start). I just had a chocolate chip muffin and ruined my appetite for lunch. I bet my muffaleta is going to taste pretty good at about 2:30, though.

― Jordan (Jordan), Monday, 7 November 2005 17:43 (twenty years ago)

Maybe this afternoon. I go to lunch in 45 minutes and games seem to generally take longer than that.

― n/a (Nick A.), Monday, 7 November 2005 17:44 (twenty years ago)

I think I may have (another) infected insect bite. Should I go to urgent care clinic? I have had two in my life and my brother has had one. I let the last two go until it was in stage 1 of blood poisoning.

― jocelyn (Jocelyn), Monday, 7 November 2005 17:46 (twenty years ago)

I'm feeling light-headed for some reason.

― jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 7 November 2005 17:46 (twenty years ago)

Wow, I've never heard of that, Jocelyn. Go to urgent care and take John with you.

― Jordan (Jordan), Monday, 7 November 2005 17:48 (twenty years ago)

Hey, I've got sorta-unlimited free passes for a preview of 'Bee Season' (w/ Gere, Binoche) at the River East at 7 p.m. tonight, if anyone wants to join.

― Eazy (Eazy), Monday, 7 November 2005 17:48 (twenty years ago)

I don't think I actually left the house all weekend... Nope. I went home on Friday night and didn't go outside again until this morning. Well, now. That is exciting. I did get a lot of studying done, so that's good. I also got a lot of rest and drank a lot of tea (with cayenne in it!) and blew my nose a lot.

Here, Nick: Things to Do When You're Bored

― pullapartgirl (pullapartgirl), Monday, 7 November 2005 17:48 (twenty years ago)

john, have you had much protein today?

― mom (Jocelyn), Monday, 7 November 2005 17:50 (twenty years ago)

No protein. Maybe I'll have something tofu-ish for lunch.

― jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 7 November 2005 17:53 (twenty years ago)

Yeah, hey, Jocelyn, how about you don't let that get to stage 1 blood poisoning. You're keeping it clean and not scratching and all that stuff, right?

John, take some vitamins!

― pullapartgirl (pullapartgirl), Monday, 7 November 2005 17:53 (twenty years ago)

Even when I keep them clean they get infected : ( I think the K@rlan children have no immunity to insect venom. My mosquito bites swell to the size of quarters most of the time.

― jocelyn (Jocelyn), Monday, 7 November 2005 17:56 (twenty years ago)

I think I've verging into the realm of TMI.
So, I started watching Sideways this weekend and turned it off halfway through because it bored me. Am I a Philistine?

― jocelyn (Jocelyn), Monday, 7 November 2005 17:58 (twenty years ago)

So, Maddie introduced me to the scientific wonder that is cornstarch last night. That shit's crazy.

― Jordan (Jordan), Monday, 7 November 2005 17:59 (twenty years ago)

Then yes, Jocelyn, go to see the doc!

I have no interest in seeing Sideways, so I don't think you're a Philistine. I think you're a VALIDATOR!

Ooo I know Nick! You can try to find me a laptop projector that is less than $150 to rent for one damn day.

(I'm waiting to hear from the school on that, but they probably won't let me take it off campus.)

― pullapartgirl (pullapartgirl), Monday, 7 November 2005 17:59 (twenty years ago)

I liked Sideways quite a bit, but recently (when I was making my top 50 films of the decade list) I couldn't remember why, exactly.

― jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 7 November 2005 18:00 (twenty years ago)

Sideways backlash! I still haven't seen it because everyone I know hated it.

― Jordan (Jordan), Monday, 7 November 2005 18:01 (twenty years ago)

I love that list, Jenny!

I liked Sideways, but I saw it in the theater with POPCORN and SODA which makes all the difference for me.

Am I an evil sister?
Let's review:
1- my Dad pays for a hotel room in France and my mom pays for train tickets to the south while we're there (this xmas)
2- we all pay for our own flights over to said country
3- my sisters and I agree to spend only up to $15 on each other, plus make something, because the trip is costly
4- then my youngest sis sends this heartbreaking email to everyone about how her wish in life is to take dance lessons again. I can totally see her crying about it on Oprah. She never got to dance again!! Cost? @ 300 euros plus dance shoes
5- I email her and tell her that I don't mean to be a killjoy, but that seems like a rather big present to ask for considering...
6- she sends out an even longer email to everyone about how she and her husband have agreed this would be the best present for her. It will help her physically, spiritually, culturally.. I don't know... Add you adverb here.
7- I email everyone and tell my parents that we don't expect them to spend at all as much on our pressies this year as the trip is so expensive

TA DA! Me= Bitch sister

― Prancing Animals (coco), Monday, 7 November 2005 18:02 (twenty years ago)

You sister is weird. Do the French even dance?

― Jordan (Jordan), Monday, 7 November 2005 18:04 (twenty years ago)

The Fake Fictions - Bitch Sister

― Eazy (Eazy), Monday, 7 November 2005 18:18 (twenty years ago)

xp, i like it! (oh, for the literati interested, maybe around 1 or so?)

no, you=realistic sister. maybe dance lessons would be wonderful for her, but she has her whole family travelling internationally to visit her, and paying for it, so it does seem ridiculous to ask such a thing.

sideways was pretty good, i thought, but not nearly as good as people who loved it said. but i can understand how you'd turn it off halfway through--it wasn't the most riveting of movies.

i got 'angel heart' from netflix this weekend, and at one point when i'd juuuuuuust finished watching it, answered the phone and was like, hi, OHMIGOD CREEPY. and then apparently forgot to explain the comment (had just watched creepy movie, whoa robert deniro waving long manicured fingernails and playing with the protagonist's mind evilly). which i thought was actually kind of funny. the comment, not the movie. goodcreepy movie though.

― Juulia (julesbdules), Monday, 7 November 2005 18:25 (twenty years ago)

I concur that your sister is weird, Sarah.

― jocelyn (Jocelyn), Monday, 7 November 2005 18:47 (twenty years ago)

She makes it sound as if your family has held her back from her greatest dream of becoming a dancer because you made her go pick grapes with the Joads, and she ends up sounding a little.. Zelda Fitzgerald-esque?

― jocelyn (Jocelyn), Monday, 7 November 2005 18:52 (twenty years ago)

Haha.

Hey Kelsey & John, Maddie and I are thinking about going down to Bell's next month for Eccentric Day!

― Jordan (Jordan), Monday, 7 November 2005 18:57 (twenty years ago)

I will play literati now if anyone wants to

― n/a (Nick A.), Monday, 7 November 2005 19:19 (twenty years ago)

I'd be up for a game in maybe 20 min.

― Jordan (Jordan), Monday, 7 November 2005 19:22 (twenty years ago)

I loved Sideways (all three times I've seen it). I have a real soft spot for movies about alcoholic fuckups and their problems with women.

― Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Monday, 7 November 2005 19:23 (twenty years ago)

Miles is one of many unsympathetic characters that I have a lot of sympathy for. Also see: Ray Porter in Shopgirl; Larry David.

― Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Monday, 7 November 2005 19:25 (twenty years ago)

I'm not sure any of those characters are actually "unsympathetic." I think they are sympathetic types who masquerade as unsympathetic, so that those of us who think of ourselves as unsympathetic, i.e., almost everyone, empathize with them.

― n/a (Nick A.), Monday, 7 November 2005 19:29 (twenty years ago)

Larry David is often genuinely unsympathetic.

― Jordan (Jordan), Monday, 7 November 2005 19:34 (twenty years ago)

xpost Dude, the guys steals money from his mother. He was pretty damn unsympathetic.

But you're right. Those characters are constructed to make ourselves feel better about not being perfect.

Did anyone else see Shopgirl. I thought it was amazing. I, like, cried and stuff.

― Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Monday, 7 November 2005 19:36 (twenty years ago)

Well, yeah, but as a character he's an exagerration of common tendencies that most of share: stubborness, selfishness, etc., so I think a lot of the time we (or I) sympathize with his motives for the things he does, even though I realize they're the wrong things to do.

xpost
But isn't the money-stealing like the ONLY truly unsympathetic thing he does? Other than that, his crimes are essentially alcoholism, snobbery, and being a pussy, which I think we can all identify with.

― n/a (Nick A.), Monday, 7 November 2005 19:39 (twenty years ago)

First part was re: Larry David, second part was re: Sideways.

― n/a (Nick A.), Monday, 7 November 2005 19:40 (twenty years ago)

(Bill Murray, both in Lost in Translation and Broken Flowers, fits that type.)

― Eazy (Eazy), Monday, 7 November 2005 19:40 (twenty years ago)

Other than that, his crimes are essentially alcoholism, snobbery, and being a pussy, which I think we can all identify with.

I wonder how much people who didn't like this movie failed to sympathize with any of those things.

― Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Monday, 7 November 2005 19:42 (twenty years ago)

A friend who hated Lost in Translation said that he failed to sympathize with characters who just sat around and moped all the time, when they could've been doing lots of really cool things in Japan. I said, congratulations on having never been depressed! This friend may or may not be the lead singer of C4n4sta.

― jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 7 November 2005 19:46 (twenty years ago)

I think that if any of these characters were actually unsympathetic, no one would watch those TV shows/movies. Why would you watch a whole show or movie about a character for whom you have absolutely no sympathy?

xpost again
You could sympathize with those aspects or with the character of Miles and still not enjoy the movie. I enjoyed it but I don't think it was amazing or anything, and I can certainly see how others might be irritated by it.

― n/a (Nick A.), Monday, 7 November 2005 19:46 (twenty years ago)

i enjoyed sideways. i've seen it twice & just this weekend, leaf gave me a copy because it was all of $3. i think it's funny & kind of cartoonish and endearing.

eric, i'd take you up on it if it wasn't tonight. i need to do some stuff around the house tonight & selfishly, i haven't had the house to myself in ages & i'm quite looking forward to it. b is in nyc for work & won't be back until wednesday. i was in the dells this weekend, but b's parents were here until THIS VERY MORNING which kinda drives me crazy. i enjoy a sunday night without all-night company.

― kelsey (kelstarry), Monday, 7 November 2005 19:49 (twenty years ago)

(Hey K, did you see the Trojan Horse rollercoaster at the Dells?)

― Eazy (Eazy), Monday, 7 November 2005 19:51 (twenty years ago)

I'm in Social Lounge 18 if anyone wants to play literatie.

― n/a (Nick A.), Monday, 7 November 2005 19:56 (twenty years ago)

WHO DARES CHALLENGE ME?

― n/a (Nick A.), Monday, 7 November 2005 19:58 (twenty years ago)

I DO!

― Juulia (julesbdules), Monday, 7 November 2005 19:58 (twenty years ago)

OK I am "naamme."

― n/a (Nick A.), Monday, 7 November 2005 19:59 (twenty years ago)

Why would you watch a whole show or movie about a character for whom you have absolutely no sympathy?

I've asked myself that question after many a movie. Like, for instance, Ray. Or the all-time coup de gras: Spanking the Monkey. Remember that one? The David O'Russell thing about the kid who just has NO IDEA where to put his penis?

― Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Monday, 7 November 2005 20:01 (twenty years ago)

What about books? I want to say that there have been more books with truly unsympathetic main characters than shows/movies, but now I can't come up with any examples.

― Jordan (Jordan), Monday, 7 November 2005 20:03 (twenty years ago)

Why, yes I did!! Our hotel was not far from it!

p.s. the dells has a wonderful vegetarian restaurant. who knew?!

Jordan: THE AWAKENING. Fuck her, man.

― kelsey (kelstarry), Monday, 7 November 2005 20:04 (twenty years ago)

by kate chopin. xpost.

― kelsey (kelstarry), Monday, 7 November 2005 20:05 (twenty years ago)

i really liked that book, but don't remember the main character very well. though of course i remember the ending.

― Juulia (julesbdules), Monday, 7 November 2005 20:36 (twenty years ago)

I have the opposite opinion of that book. I really disliked the main character (can't remember her name, though).

― kelsey (kelstarry), Monday, 7 November 2005 20:38 (twenty years ago)

I submit the collected works of Richard Yates, which can be summed up thusly:

It's really hard to be a man. Boohoo. Drink some whisky. The end.

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Monday, 7 November 2005 20:40 (twenty years ago)

Rabbit Angstrom, too.

― Eazy (Eazy), Monday, 7 November 2005 21:03 (twenty years ago)

also, and i'm just going to say this, charles bukowski.

― kelsey (kelstarry), Monday, 7 November 2005 21:25 (twenty years ago)

The Great Gatsby

― jocelyn (Jocelyn), Monday, 7 November 2005 21:29 (twenty years ago)

On the Road

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Monday, 7 November 2005 21:30 (twenty years ago)

Bret Easton Ellis

― Jordan (Jordan), Monday, 7 November 2005 21:31 (twenty years ago)

BOOKS ABOUT ASSHOLES

― Jordan (Jordan), Monday, 7 November 2005 21:31 (twenty years ago)

Rodya "brain-poker" Raskolnikov

― jocelyn (Jocelyn), Monday, 7 November 2005 21:31 (twenty years ago)

I don't know if Gatsby counts because although Jay Gatsby is ostensibly the main character, you're seeing everything through Nick's eyes as the narrator; the book only requires that you sympathize with him, and he is intrigued but also guarded toward Gatsby. (Also I think Gatsby becomes more sympathetic once his backstory is revealed.) (This could all be bullshit, though, since I haven't read the novel since 1994.)

― jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 7 November 2005 21:31 (twenty years ago)

Also, w/r/t Ellis, I'm not sure, either, since I've had similar thoughts as Bateman while brutally dismembering women.

― jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 7 November 2005 21:32 (twenty years ago)

I can't remember anything about the Awakening, but I seem to recall liking it... But I read it during a feminist literature class in undergrad so I might be confusing it with another book.

I love the Great Gatsby, even though judging by my general taste in movies and books I really should hate it.

― pullapartgirl (pullapartgirl), Monday, 7 November 2005 21:33 (twenty years ago)

I like books and movies with morally ambigious characters! I just found Sideways dull as powder.

― jocelyn (Jocelyn), Monday, 7 November 2005 21:35 (twenty years ago)

Hi guys. I am about to start a thread about sock monkeys.

Thanks for agreeing my sister is weird. She's REALLY frugal when it comes to buying things for herself, but always expects fancy pants presents.

I just read Gatsby very recently and I didn't find any of the characters unsympathetic.

― Prancing Animals (coco), Monday, 7 November 2005 21:36 (twenty years ago)

They have sock monkey pajamas at Target!
They are a little bit creepy though.

― jocelyn (Jocelyn), Monday, 7 November 2005 21:38 (twenty years ago)

the awakening is interesting b/c so many people see it as feminist literature, but i found the main character to be exceptionally weak. therefore, conflicting opinions ensue.

in other news (with sympathetic characters) who's watching arrested development tonight?!

sarah, for the record, i agree your sister is weird. i understand wanting something badly & thinking that it will do you a world of good, but i would never dream of asking for such a thing from family that was traveling overseas to see me. i just wouldn't ask for anything more than their company (and maybe red licorice, if i had trouble getting it).

― kelsey (kelstarry), Monday, 7 November 2005 21:38 (twenty years ago)

ANNOUNCEMENT!!!!

What: Free, pre-release creening of WAL-MART: The High Cost of Low Price
Where: Grace Place Community Center, Grace Episcopal Church, 637 S. Dearborn
When: Wednesday, November 16, 2005 from 7 PM to 9 PM
Questions: Contact ME

It's free! There will be cookies and coffee and a Q & A session! It's right after work in the loop close to all train lines! (Harrison, LaSalle, Library) Tell everybody! I have fliers and a website and all kinds of crap.

― pullapartgirl (pullapartgirl), Monday, 7 November 2005 21:39 (twenty years ago)

Also, yes, that's a little dramatic and weird of a request, Sarah. It's one thing to want something, but another to act like you will just die DIE if you don't get it, especially when that something is dance lessons instead of say, insulin.

― pullapartgirl (pullapartgirl), Monday, 7 November 2005 21:40 (twenty years ago)

is "weird" a synonym for "spoiled"?

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Monday, 7 November 2005 21:41 (twenty years ago)

in this case, in my opinion, yes.

― kelsey (kelstarry), Monday, 7 November 2005 21:42 (twenty years ago)

sorry. that was a little harsh, but not everyone who wants a pony gets one, if you know what i'm saying.

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Monday, 7 November 2005 21:43 (twenty years ago)

She's really not spoiled, she just wants to be spoiled. Also, I'm totally not offended. I brought it up just so you'd all say, "Yeah! That's crazy talk!"

Ok, go read my thread. It should show up soon.

― Prancing Animals (coco), Monday, 7 November 2005 21:45 (twenty years ago)

I wonder if I'm getting sick. I'm hot and my eyes hurt and my throat feels a little funny. But I might just be really dried out.

― n/a (Nick A.), Monday, 7 November 2005 21:49 (twenty years ago)

I am pumped for Arrested Development but also a little worried: we really really need to get groceries but I'm worried about getting back home by 7:00 for the ONE HOUR of ARRESTED DEVELOPMENT.

I just took a little writing test for a job I applied for. I had to write headlines and short abstracts for different articles. It was hard!

― n/a (Nick A.), Monday, 7 November 2005 21:54 (twenty years ago)

Oof, sorry Jenny, I can't make the screening, since that's the last band rehearsal before our big show!

― jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 7 November 2005 21:55 (twenty years ago)

It's an hour tonight?!

― kelsey (kelstarry), Monday, 7 November 2005 22:08 (twenty years ago)

Well, bummer, John! That's okay, though. You can make it up to me by telling all the millions of people you know about it. I'm getting my co-organizer to read over all my websites and fliers and stuff and junk, and then all of you Chicagoans will get an email that I encourage you all to forward to as many people as you think might be interested.

There will be free coffee and cookies!!!

― pullapartgirl (pullapartgirl), Monday, 7 November 2005 22:09 (twenty years ago)

Oh shit, AD is on tonight?

My home life is slightly emptier now that all the AD dvds have been watched.

― Jordan (Jordan), Monday, 7 November 2005 22:11 (twenty years ago)

Jenny, I won't be able to make it on wednesday! i actually signed up to attend this volunteer orientation for a social service place that helps homeless women get back on their feet.

― kelsey (kelstarry), Monday, 7 November 2005 22:16 (twenty years ago)

Okay, that is a acceptable excuse, too.

I would love to hear about what you're doing though! Sounds pretty awesome.

― pullapartgirl (pullapartgirl), Monday, 7 November 2005 23:42 (twenty years ago)

Gear started an ILM thread about Edith's new record.

― jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 7 November 2005 23:55 (twenty years ago)

Good morning, Chicago.

Bee Season's strange, especially for a big Hollywood movie, and good - more about Jewish mysticism than spelling bees.

― Eazy (Eazy), Tuesday, 8 November 2005 14:26 (twenty years ago)

Jenny, it's more so I can get my feet wet & find out whether I honestly want to get an MSW. I figure volunteering is a good place to start.

― kelsey (kelstarry), Tuesday, 8 November 2005 14:36 (twenty years ago)

I have therapy today! First time in years, and before I only had one session. So it remains to be seen: am I a grower or a whiner? I'll settle for either. It's about time someone took the brunt of my whining other than friends and loved ones.

― Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Tuesday, 8 November 2005 14:47 (twenty years ago)

Lady or Gentleman therapist?

― Eazy (Eazy), Tuesday, 8 November 2005 14:49 (twenty years ago)

We get to do some more recording today, fun. I hope my impending cold, which I can feel gradually taking over, doesn't interfere too much.

― n/a (Nick A.), Tuesday, 8 November 2005 14:53 (twenty years ago)

I have no idea who the therapist is. I hope it's a woman.

― Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Tuesday, 8 November 2005 14:59 (twenty years ago)

http://www.southcoasttoday.com/daily/04-01/04-15-01/415braco.jpg

Perchance to dream.

― Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Tuesday, 8 November 2005 15:00 (twenty years ago)

Hi, Chicago. I love having fresh groceries in the house. It makes me feel like a million bucks.

Also, tonight we do more recording, which is fun stuff.

How is everyone? I feel like dancing.

― Prancing Animals (coco), Tuesday, 8 November 2005 15:01 (twenty years ago)

Gentleman callers > Gentleman therapists

― Jordan (Jordan), Tuesday, 8 November 2005 15:01 (twenty years ago)

I feel like napping.

― n/a (Nick A.), Tuesday, 8 November 2005 15:02 (twenty years ago)

Good morning. I'm in a good mood. I went to the gym last night, watched Arrested Development, and then accompanied Maddie on Mission: Kate Bush.

― Jordan (Jordan), Tuesday, 8 November 2005 15:03 (twenty years ago)

I can't post on the Edith Frost thread because I somehow have not actually heard any of her music. I was excited to hear her at Squeezed but then she played cover songs so I still haven't heard any of her songs. So the most I could contribute would be "HEY I MET HER ONE TIME HEY."

― n/a (Nick A.), Tuesday, 8 November 2005 15:05 (twenty years ago)

I gather she's from Chicago?

― Jordan (Jordan), Tuesday, 8 November 2005 15:08 (twenty years ago)

Free CD of her demos here - http://www.comfortstand.com/catalog/027/

― Eazy (Eazy), Tuesday, 8 November 2005 15:17 (twenty years ago)

kenan, congrats! that's great!

― kelsey (kelstarry), Tuesday, 8 November 2005 15:18 (twenty years ago)

thanks, kels.

― Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Tuesday, 8 November 2005 15:19 (twenty years ago)

I'll dl them at home, thanks.

― Jordan (Jordan), Tuesday, 8 November 2005 15:21 (twenty years ago)

hi guys. i'm excited because i'm flying to cleveland (then driving to akron) tonight to be with my mom on election night. i'm nervous, but long overdue for a little adventure.

and i only have to work 4 hours today and 4 hours tomorrow! woo.

nick - have you snorted salt water yet? it'll clear your nose RIGHT OUT!

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Tuesday, 8 November 2005 15:22 (twenty years ago)

everyone - congrats on your good moods, groceries, therapy, volunteering, Wal-mart movies, making it through Bee Season and whatever else is making you happy today.

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Tuesday, 8 November 2005 15:24 (twenty years ago)

also, i like EF a lot. so kudos to her too!

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Tuesday, 8 November 2005 15:25 (twenty years ago)

Hey, have a fun trip, 'manda; hope you see 6-ft-tall corn like they've got at the foot of the hill in the 43022.

― Eazy (Eazy), Tuesday, 8 November 2005 15:26 (twenty years ago)

I cannot have a male therapist. Men are scary.

― Jeff-PTTL (Jeff), Tuesday, 8 November 2005 15:26 (twenty years ago)

Very eeenterestink, Jeff.

― Eazy (Eazy), Tuesday, 8 November 2005 15:30 (twenty years ago)

I haven't had a therapist in 7 years! Amazing! Of course, instead I've bitched a lot to Nick, but he still loves me! Also amazing!

Also, I checked out 2 self-help books at the library this weekend, so I'm well on my way to self-actualization (one about wanting what I already have to deal with my materialism and my complaints about being broke all the time and one about how to relax and not worry about stupid shit all the time).

― Prancing Animals (coco), Tuesday, 8 November 2005 15:32 (twenty years ago)

Reading Melody Beattie's 'Codependent No More' (at the right time) is as good as a few dozen hours of therapy.

― Eazy (Eazy), Tuesday, 8 November 2005 15:35 (twenty years ago)

The only self-help-type book I've ever read was William Styron's book on depression. It's not really self-help though, it's a memoir, but it made me feel better. A little bit.

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Tuesday, 8 November 2005 15:39 (twenty years ago)

john, the new boards of canada is enjoyable. i am enjoying it.

is all of chicago in a good mood today?! I AM!

Amanda, what's this adventure?! Does Carl need anyone to feed him? I mean, I guess Dan's probably around, right?

In the spirit of homemade gifts, I found this pattern for bicycling ear flaps that I'm going to make for Leaf. They're dorky, but really sweet me thinks. They slip right over the straps to make yer ears cozy & warm!

― kelsey (kelstarry), Tuesday, 8 November 2005 15:42 (twenty years ago)

I am in an ok mood but I don't want to get sick and I wish I didn't have to do work today when my boss isn't here, but I have a couple of things I need to do some work on so I don't get overwhelmed later.

I have never been to any kind of therapy. I also have never read a "self-help book," but I have read a lot of books which helped me in various ways.

― n/a (Nick A.), Tuesday, 8 November 2005 15:46 (twenty years ago)

I've done therapy a handful of times & read plenty o' self help books. Cheri Huber is one of my favorites b/c she's totally Zen, but sometimes it's a little squishy. Therapy is probably better than books.

― kelsey (kelstarry), Tuesday, 8 November 2005 15:48 (twenty years ago)

Best self-help book I've read this year: "A Year With Swollen Appendices" by Brian Eno.

― n/a (Nick A.), Tuesday, 8 November 2005 15:49 (twenty years ago)

I went to a therapist when I was around 11 during my parent's divorce. He would take me to McDonald's and buy me french fries. I really didn't like it (the therapy, not the fast food) and I didn't let it help me at all.

― Jordan (Jordan), Tuesday, 8 November 2005 15:49 (twenty years ago)

Hey, thanks for the offer Kelsey - Dan's got old Carl and Junie under control, but I seriously really appreciate your willingness to brave the treacherous waters of the Sea of Carl. He's a good boy, he just has emotional issues.

Aww, Jordan, that's sad. French fries and divorce. That makes me sad.

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Tuesday, 8 November 2005 15:51 (twenty years ago)

My first therapist was when I was about 13 or so & I hated him. I've seen women ever since & each one has been great.

― kelsey (kelstarry), Tuesday, 8 November 2005 15:52 (twenty years ago)

That's a good book, Nick. The help I found at 34 (the Beattie book and a few other things), I certainly wish I had found when I was 22.

― Eazy (Eazy), Tuesday, 8 November 2005 15:52 (twenty years ago)

Actually, come to think of it, I read "Through the Narrow Gate" by Karen Armstrong, which was sort of self-helpy for me. It was a memoir about her time as a young nun in a conservative convent. Willful isolation was a big theme.

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Tuesday, 8 November 2005 15:53 (twenty years ago)

I want one of these:
http://glitterdirect.com/catalog/images/bajo.jpg

― n/a (Nick A.), Tuesday, 8 November 2005 15:54 (twenty years ago)

I read a John G0ttman book after working on the show that featured him at TAL. It was certainly self-helppy, but still had some valuable information in there.

― kelsey (kelstarry), Tuesday, 8 November 2005 15:54 (twenty years ago)

I'm in an okay mood. The last two days I have woken up feeling sort of dizzy (oh wait, I told you about that yesterday), and I'm not sure what that means. It's happened to me before, so I'm not too worried about it, but occasionally when it's happened it's been accompanied by a whole host of other mystery symptoms: loss of appetite, alcohol intolerance, etc.

Blah blah hypochondria blah blah.

If I went into therapy (which I probably should, anyway), I would much rather see a female therapist. Women are easier to talk to about personal stuff.

― jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 8 November 2005 15:55 (twenty years ago)

I went to a therapist for the first time a few years ago, had some gut feelings that a few things she was doing weren't professional (talking each session about health care insurance and what was happening between her and her billing service and my provider, to give one example) - but it still took me four months or so before going with my gut leaving her. Which, of course, taught me a lot about myself - which, of course, is what therapy is about.

― Eazy (Eazy), Tuesday, 8 November 2005 15:58 (twenty years ago)

I would like to read that Eno book.

― Jordan (Jordan), Tuesday, 8 November 2005 16:01 (twenty years ago)

i once went willingly to therapy with an ex of mine, only to get shot down by his therapist (who had only met me that night for the first time ever) about my "defense mechanisms." in the moment, i took it kinda seriously. i thought it would be better for the relationship if i did. later, in the car & later in life, i just got really pissed off at her. i still am, damn it!

― kelsey (kelstarry), Tuesday, 8 November 2005 16:01 (twenty years ago)

(It's been said that your first sessions with a therapist are usually some kind of reenactment of how you deal with one or both of your parents.)

― Eazy (Eazy), Tuesday, 8 November 2005 16:03 (twenty years ago)

Oh, that's not a good thing.

― Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Tuesday, 8 November 2005 16:04 (twenty years ago)

Although I suppose if the therapist can resist throwing things at me and screaming about I'm just like my father, I can remain calm.

― Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Tuesday, 8 November 2005 16:05 (twenty years ago)

I can't imagine that the first session with any therapist would be comfortable -- I mean, you're walking into a room and are supposed to start divulging tons of extremely personal information? I would not be inclined to do be able to trust someone right away.

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Tuesday, 8 November 2005 16:09 (twenty years ago)

Kenan, do you know if you're receiving cognitive behavioral therapy or psychotherapy?

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Tuesday, 8 November 2005 16:10 (twenty years ago)

Well, if the root of a lot of fears, insecurities, defenses, etc., go back to what was going on the house from ages 0-10, then it makes sense that the therapy session is going to replay some of those dynamics, just as relationships, work situations, etc. do.

― Eazy (Eazy), Tuesday, 8 November 2005 16:12 (twenty years ago)

Honestly, I have trouble taking psychology/therapy seriously.

― n/a (Nick A.), Tuesday, 8 November 2005 16:13 (twenty years ago)

Why?

― jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 8 November 2005 16:14 (twenty years ago)

("going on in the house", I mean - I really need to proofread these things before posting)

xpost - Nick, do you think that people can understand things about you that you don't understand? Do you mind that?

― Eazy (Eazy), Tuesday, 8 November 2005 16:14 (twenty years ago)

Amanda -- it's cognitive behavioral therapy.

― Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Tuesday, 8 November 2005 16:18 (twenty years ago)

Oh, that's good. I think behavioral therapy is a lot more practical these days. We don't have hours and hours and hours to sit and talk about our fathers.

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Tuesday, 8 November 2005 16:26 (twenty years ago)

I think probably because: a) I was a psych major in college, which probably gave me just enough information to make me feel like I "understand" psychology and that it's mostly bs, but not really enough information to really understand psychology, and b) I think of myself as being really normal and generally well-adjusted so it's hard for me to think of a scenario in my life where I would benefit from therapy. I have problems (esp. with impatience and time stress) but not ones where I feel like just talking to a psychologist would help clear them up.
Overall I feel like people take psychology more seriously than, say, religion or psychics or astrology, because it's a "science," but it seems like there are as many quack or harmful psychologists out there as there are dogmatic priests or huckster psychics or astrologists.

― n/a (Nick A.), Tuesday, 8 November 2005 16:27 (twenty years ago)

I recognize that it's probably an unfair prejudice.

― n/a (Nick A.), Tuesday, 8 November 2005 16:29 (twenty years ago)

Hmmm. I just think it would be very worthwhile to have someone to talk to about all your issues, without fear of judgment or burdening them.

― jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 8 November 2005 16:30 (twenty years ago)

I'm big into the research of John Gottman. I'm currently reading his Mathmatics of Marriage, and I'm fascinated by his marriage research in general. He's a showboat, but his arguments are consistently good.

Marriage just isn't marriage unless you can apply a differential equation to it.

― Jeff-PTTL (Jeff), Tuesday, 8 November 2005 16:30 (twenty years ago)

Surely there are, but see -- um, see, I'm not normal, not well adjusted, have trouble with work, can't hold a relationship together, am basically a wreck of a human being, and could really stand to see what someone else thinks I should be doing differently, because I have no fucking idea, and am headed straight for the long bar with all the unemployed drunks lined up at two in the afternoon.

― Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Tuesday, 8 November 2005 16:31 (twenty years ago)

That was a big xpost to Nick.

― Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Tuesday, 8 November 2005 16:32 (twenty years ago)

My interest in psychology falls mainly into the cognitive/conceptual field, I have no interest in developmental or clinical. Research is fun!

― Jeff-PTTL (Jeff), Tuesday, 8 November 2005 16:33 (twenty years ago)

Word.

― jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 8 November 2005 16:36 (twenty years ago)

I guess I tend to think that everyone has to believe in some organizing principle for why we're here. For some people it's religion, for others it's science. I don't really see that much measurable difference between a really good pastor and a really good therapist. They both have the same essential skills.

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Tuesday, 8 November 2005 16:37 (twenty years ago)

("Word" was an x-post to Kenan -- fuck-ups unite!)

― jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 8 November 2005 16:38 (twenty years ago)

Hmmm. I just think it would be very worthwhile to have someone to talk to about all your issues, without fear of judgment or burdening them.

Sure, but why a psychologist? Why not a friend, pastor, rabbi, mentor, bartender, relative, stranger, pet, imaginary friend, etc?

Like I said, this is admittedly a personal prejudice and I'm not advising Kenan or anyone else to not see a psychologist if they think it will help them.

I think I enjoyed social psychology the most, when I was studying it.

― n/a (Nick A.), Tuesday, 8 November 2005 16:41 (twenty years ago)

I mean, for a good part of my life until sometime in college, I thought of myself as happy and normal and well-adjusted: my parents were still together, I had close friends, did well in school, etc.

But since then I've developed a whole host of issues -- or at least I've become more self-aware of issues that may have developed earlier but that didn't have a noticeable impact on my life until later. Usual stuff: sex, money, happiness. I'm constantly feeling like everyone else has got stuff figured out and I don't.

― jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 8 November 2005 16:45 (twenty years ago)

Sounds like a very normal quarter-life crisis. Lots of people have those. I sure did. If you knew me at 25-26, you would have seen a very different person.

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Tuesday, 8 November 2005 16:50 (twenty years ago)

I certainly feel that way about some stuff, mainly my job/career. But I'd rather see a career counselor about that, someone trained to give practical and direct advice.

― n/a (Nick A.), Tuesday, 8 November 2005 16:52 (twenty years ago)

I kinda agree with Nick sheerly because my dad has a PhD in psych and he is one of the most defensive and projective (is that a word?) people I know. Basically, he's right and everyone else has major problems that he can cure. That's not to say that I discredit all therapy altogether, I think it can be very helpful, but also remember that the person you are talking to may be flawed or just not the right person for you.
I saw a counselor in college and she was very helpful with the "talking cure" parts but I don't know if I'd go back. I think reading books or talking to others would be more helpful to me than straight psych.

― jocelyn (Jocelyn), Tuesday, 8 November 2005 16:56 (twenty years ago)

Sure, but why a psychologist? Why not a friend, pastor, rabbi, mentor, bartender, relative, stranger, pet, imaginary friend, etc?

Friend, bartender, and relative don't work because of what I said about fear of judgment or burdening them. Presumably these are people that you have close relationships with: you don't want to drag your shit onto them. (And especially if your shit has to do with them! Two of my best friends are my exes -- it's probably not good for me to delve into my neuroses about sex and relationships with those people.)

Mentor: maybe but it depends on what kind of mentor it is. The closest thing I've had to a mentor was a professor, and the relationship had very little to do with our personal lives.

Stranger: this doesn't make sense. What, go up to random people on the bus?

Pet or imaginary friend: The idea isn't to just talk to someone, it's also to know that they are listening.

Pastor or rabbi: Sure, I suppose -- I mean, I saw a Unitarian minister at a time of need -- but with certain things I would imagine that you might not feel entirely comfortable sharing everything with them. Depends on what your issues are, though, I guess...

― jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 8 November 2005 16:57 (twenty years ago)

It'd be nice if there was an "advice booth" option, i.e. pay $5 for a completely untrained person to listen to your problems for half an hour.

― Jordan (Jordan), Tuesday, 8 November 2005 16:58 (twenty years ago)

Oh totally, that'd be fine, too. I mean, the only "training" I would want from a therapist is to know that they wouldn't react weird when I laid some of my shit on them. But I'm not necessarily interested in the therapist being able to "fix me." The onus is on myself.

― jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 8 November 2005 17:01 (twenty years ago)

That's what ILX is for, right? It doesn't even cost $5/hr.* (xpost)

*except to employers in lost productivity, but that's a whole nother thing

― I do feel guilty for getting any perverse amusement out of it (Rock Hardy), Tuesday, 8 November 2005 17:02 (twenty years ago)

I think it's funny that I'm defending therapy when I've never even seen a therapist.

― jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 8 November 2005 17:05 (twenty years ago)

Friend, bartender, and relative don't work because of what I said about fear of judgment or burdening them. Presumably these are people that you have close relationships with: you don't want to drag your shit onto them.

Deadly OTM. And as I know from experience, if you give people enough handfuls of your shit, eventually they just don't take it anymore.

Pastor or rabbi: Sure, I suppose

I don't think so, not for me. I've already been quite warped by religion, thank you very much.

But I'm not necessarily interested in the therapist being able to "fix me." The onus is on myself.

Of course it is. Any therapist will tell you that. Nobody can save you, we're basically alone, etc etc. That's why they call it "help."

― Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Tuesday, 8 November 2005 17:06 (twenty years ago)

I don't really want to talk about psychology any more because I think maybe I'm being a dick about something that I don't really know that much about.

― n/a (Nick A.), Tuesday, 8 November 2005 17:06 (twenty years ago)

we’re keeping busy yeah we’re bleeding stones
with our machinations and our palindromes
anything but hear a voice that says we’re basically alone

― Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Tuesday, 8 November 2005 17:07 (twenty years ago)

My coworker brought in a box of Ho-Hos and I think eating a bunch of them has cured my cold.

― n/a (Nick A.), Tuesday, 8 November 2005 17:09 (twenty years ago)

Nothing beats a Ho-carb snack.

― Eazy (Eazy), Tuesday, 8 November 2005 17:10 (twenty years ago)

If part of a theraputic process (with a professional, or a mentor, or a s.o., etc.) is uncovering pain, that's something that most people need to step out of everyday life to experience.

― Eazy (Eazy), Tuesday, 8 November 2005 17:14 (twenty years ago)

i was an unpaid therapist to a friend for a while. it got excruciating, because she had major major problems and because i was just her friend, she didn't listen all that seriously to my advice on how to deal with everything, and i lacked the expertise to really know what to say about some of it anyway. i listened and tried to understand/sympathise, but more is needed than that with major issue stuff. also, she'd gotten to bitching to me about her life so much that she didn't really bother to ask how i was doing, or to seem to care if i were to start to talk about it, so immersed was she in her own issues. so finally i talked to her about how i wasn't a professional and she really needed a professional with the sort of stuff she was dealing with. because i have a lot of shit going on sometimes and it really helps me to talk to my therapist.

drama ensued. the point: best not to use friends as therapists if you have major probs. i talk to my friends about my problems, but there's lots of stuff that's intense and repetitive and i don't want to bore/impose on people. of course you lean on your friends when you're going through a hard time, but sometimes you need an additional ear who's impartialish, and professional insight.

many xp's....i have never thought of ho-hos as a therapeutic cure but maybe i should investigate this...

― Juulia (julesbdules), Tuesday, 8 November 2005 17:18 (twenty years ago)

ooh, been there julia. i know exactly what you mean. that pretty much describes 3/4 of my early, intense friendships.

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Tuesday, 8 November 2005 17:23 (twenty years ago)

a trained professional is exactly that. that's my one sentence argument for seeing a therapist over the list of nick's.

― kelsey (kelstarry), Tuesday, 8 November 2005 17:43 (twenty years ago)

Therapy for me is mainly about unclouding my perception of myself, and just having a good conversation for an hour.

― Jeff-PTTL (Jeff), Tuesday, 8 November 2005 17:44 (twenty years ago)

Not that I can't have good conversation with other people, it's just that it rarely happens, I'm not comfortable and I am usually drinking in social situations.

― Jeff-PTTL (Jeff), Tuesday, 8 November 2005 18:10 (twenty years ago)

For the most part, I think therapy did a world of good for me. I can't even count how many therapists I've seen in my life. I saw most of them by myself, but also went to group therapy with my parents, with each parent individually, and with my sisters. Mostly, I just had to deal with the divorce and general depression from moving around so much, but those were big issues for me.

It is true that eventually it was harder for me to let therapists help me help myself, if only because I started to recognize patterns and formulas and hear the same things again and again. But it did help. Also, medication helped. I was on anti-depressants for about 5 years. I always looked forward to my sessions. They weren't all sad or angry or what-have-you. Sometimes I would just have lots of good news and progress to report and it made me really proud of myself.

My freshman roommate in college didn't believe I had problems with depression and thought it was silly that I took medication and saw a therapist. She said it was all fake and they were trying to get my money and besides I wasn't depressed anyway. That was upsetting. There's nothing quite like trying to PROVE to someone that you're depressed and yes you do need outside help. It's a personal thing and I didn't appreciate being told how I felt and that what I was doing was pointless.

I think Nick just doesn't understand the benefits of therapy because he hasn't been in that situation before.

― Prancing Animals (coco), Tuesday, 8 November 2005 18:17 (twenty years ago)

I think maybe I'm being a dick about something that I don't really know that much about.
-- n/a (nu...), November 8th, 2005 11:06 AM. (Nick A.) (later)

― n/a (Nick A.), Tuesday, 8 November 2005 18:20 (twenty years ago)

xpost - Stupid stupid stupid bitchy roommate.

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Tuesday, 8 November 2005 18:21 (twenty years ago)

Hey, I never talked about Jenny's movie thing. I don't see any reason why I wouldn't be able to go. Hoorah.

I just made some Thai garlic soup noodle bowl thing.

It looks like I might have a job interview in the next week sometime.

― n/a (Nick A.), Tuesday, 8 November 2005 18:23 (twenty years ago)

Hey guys - I'm outta here. Wish my momma luck!

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Tuesday, 8 November 2005 19:04 (twenty years ago)

BYE AMANDA
HI EVERYONE ELSE
I wish this company would get back to me about when I can set up this job interview for.

― n/a (Nick A.), Tuesday, 8 November 2005 19:27 (twenty years ago)

Good luck Amanda's Mom!!!

― kelsey (kelstarry), Tuesday, 8 November 2005 19:28 (twenty years ago)

Hey Nick (and Sarah) -- I'm pretty sure I saw you guys at Cub last night. I should have introduced myself and said hello but I was with someone and at the time I kind of felt awkward walking up and saying "Hey, I've talked to you and seen your pictures on the internets a bunch of times on ILX!!!!1111" Stupid shyness, next time I'll just say hi.

― Df'nM (OutDatWay), Tuesday, 8 November 2005 19:40 (twenty years ago)

Were you the dude with the glasses and the sideburns and the tight jeans? Because that guy was cool.

Yeah, we were at Cub last night. You should have said hi. Though I was wearing work clothes.

― n/a (Nick A.), Tuesday, 8 November 2005 19:42 (twenty years ago)

I feel like eating candy. Sweet, delicious candy.

― kelsey (kelstarry), Tuesday, 8 November 2005 19:46 (twenty years ago)

Ummm... maybe! I do have glasses, I have kind of pathetic sideburns, and I was wearing semi-tight jeans. And a red shirt. I was with a rather stoned-looking dude (my housemate.)

I kinda feel like an asshole now. I never come to any FAPs or shows, just run my mouth here when I have nothing to do at work. Well, not an asshole really, but just kind of lame.

― Df'nM (OutDatWay), Tuesday, 8 November 2005 19:52 (twenty years ago)

Oh no, that wasn't you then, this guy was with a lady. So I don't think I spotted the elusive and wiley Dan M.

Hey don't feel like an asshole, I probably would've just acted weird like I usually do when I unexpectedly run into somebody I know. And there's no ILX rule that says you have to meet us IRL.

After we got groceries and loaded them in the car and I was taking the cart over to the cart thing, this girl pulled into the parking lot and waved at me. It seemed like she knew me and she seemed familiar but I couldn't place her. Then I saw her getting out of her car and I said "Hey, you have my old car!" and she said something about how it still ran great after 11 years. I wonder if I actually know her or if she was just some total stranger who was waving at me for getting out of the way and then I harassed her about her car.

― n/a (Nick A.), Tuesday, 8 November 2005 19:57 (twenty years ago)

Truly elusive and wiley. LIKE A FOX.

― Df'nM (OutDatWay), Tuesday, 8 November 2005 20:00 (twenty years ago)

Oh man, I just took a Jewish gig to make my mom happy. It's next weekend and it's with a guy who used to be in this band. I wonder what I've gotten myself into.

― Jordan (Jordan), Tuesday, 8 November 2005 20:06 (twenty years ago)

OY VEY!

(Did I do that right?)

― n/a (Nick A.), Tuesday, 8 November 2005 20:08 (twenty years ago)

It should be more phlegmy.

― jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 8 November 2005 20:10 (twenty years ago)

A little less enthusiasm, a little more resignation and you've got it.

― Jordan (Jordan), Tuesday, 8 November 2005 20:11 (twenty years ago)

I try to file anything that hits my desk that same business day, but apparently that isn't fast enough. OY VEY. My coworker is a mashugana.

I've been browsing on the craftser messageboards all day. Fun stuff.

Ok, I'm off to put these documents in their appropriate Chemises.

― Prancing Animals (coco), Tuesday, 8 November 2005 20:22 (twenty years ago)

is anyone with me on this . . . C A N D Y . . .

anyone?

― kelsey (kelstarry), Tuesday, 8 November 2005 20:27 (twenty years ago)

Your coworker IS meshuggenah, Sarah, not a meshuggenah.

― Jordan (Jordan), Tuesday, 8 November 2005 20:36 (twenty years ago)

I'm craving salt right now, not candy. I want potato chips.

― n/a (Nick A.), Tuesday, 8 November 2005 20:38 (twenty years ago)

For the Jewish gig: http://www.vidlit.com/yidlit/

― Laurel (Laurel), Tuesday, 8 November 2005 20:48 (twenty years ago)

hi, everyone!
i've determined on the basis on these threads that eric is even awesomer and smarter than i had previously thought.
also: i'm in a really good mood, but definitely don't want to do school work. :(
i just want to sit around and listen to the aluminum group and ...think...

― robots in love (robotsinlove), Tuesday, 8 November 2005 21:06 (twenty years ago)

It was almost a year ago that Mark and I had a Saturday-night dinner on the freaking Sunset Strip. How fun that was.

― Eazy (Eazy), Tuesday, 8 November 2005 21:18 (twenty years ago)

salon has a maureen dowd article, fyi, chicago.

― kelsey (kelstarry), Tuesday, 8 November 2005 21:36 (twenty years ago)

That was a surprisingly amusing video, Laurel (though I had the sound off).

― Jordan (Jordan), Tuesday, 8 November 2005 21:37 (twenty years ago)

Hi Mark!

I'm gonna call you when I'm done with work...

Actually, if you're reading this: I'm thinking about ditching SBC and just getting a cable modem for Internet at my new place, no landline. Didn't you do this at your place in Logan Sq.? Does anyone else have experience with this? What are rates like? Is Comcast the best provider?

― jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 8 November 2005 21:38 (twenty years ago)

Oh no, you need the sound!! "THAT'S what I want on my hamburger."

― Laurel (Laurel), Tuesday, 8 November 2005 21:39 (twenty years ago)

Ha, okay I'll listen to it at home later.

― Jordan (Jordan), Tuesday, 8 November 2005 21:41 (twenty years ago)

We have Comcast and no landline. It's really fast, but also more expensive. If you have/want cable TV, it's worth it. If you don't, it's questionable.

― Df'nM (OutDatWay), Tuesday, 8 November 2005 21:41 (twenty years ago)

I know the cable rate is more expensive than the DSL rate, but is it more expensive than what I'm paying for DSL plus phone that I don't use?

I don't really think I'm interested in cable TV.

― jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 8 November 2005 21:44 (twenty years ago)

Okay, I am a total idiot, but who is Eric professionally? Is he a quite famous person?

― jocelyn (Jocelyn), Tuesday, 8 November 2005 21:45 (twenty years ago)

yes, john, what dan said.

yeah, eric was that was good times. i saw my friend--and former ilxor--vik this weekend; he was the one being drunk at your show. come back to LA sometime!

i just booked my flight for xmas, the 21st-28th. one week, short and easy.

― robots in love (robotsinlove), Tuesday, 8 November 2005 21:46 (twenty years ago)

Also, I think if it's just one person using DSL, then that's fine. We went and got a wireless router to use with the cable modem 'cause we're big nerds with laptops and d/l a lot of stuff and play games and shit, so Comcast is the better choice for that route. Still, having to pay almost as much to get cable internet as to get cable TV and internet is for the bullshit. On top of it all, Comcast was the only choice in our neighborhood for some reason.

xpost then you have a bit of a quandary :)

― Df'nM (OutDatWay), Tuesday, 8 November 2005 21:46 (twenty years ago)

Eric's day job.

― n/a (Nick A.), Tuesday, 8 November 2005 21:48 (twenty years ago)

I've got Comcast up in Log Sq. Pretty decent. Thing is: ask/tell them that they are running batshit crazy specials and they will oblige. viz. - the first six months of my service is something like 45/mo + tax for high-speed internet and FULL CABLE. Like, 8 channels of HBO and shit. This will, of course, slowly escalate in price starting in March, but for now it's amazingly kickass.

― giboyeux (skowly), Tuesday, 8 November 2005 21:52 (twenty years ago)

Oh man, I'm in for a night of sympathetic drinking tonight. One of my friends moved out of the apartment he had with his girlfriend (and with 10 months on the lease and neither of them able to pay the full amount, that alone has gotta be a mess).

― Jordan (Jordan), Tuesday, 8 November 2005 21:57 (twenty years ago)

:-(
Did you see it coming, Jordan? Did they?

Eric, like Ziggy, plays guitar, but he plays it on his lap like one might a dulcimer.

― Prancing Animals (coco), Tuesday, 8 November 2005 22:15 (twenty years ago)

Hmmm, I think I'll probably stick with my DSL, if for no other reason than it will be a hassle to switch.

― jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 8 November 2005 22:16 (twenty years ago)

Yeah, it was starting to look inevitable, Sarah.

(Btw, this friend plays drums and is in my band)

― Jordan (Jordan), Tuesday, 8 November 2005 22:22 (twenty years ago)

Hey guys, quick usage question. What is better:

"This report displays patients WHO belong to the selected blah blah"

"This report displays patients THAT belong to the selected blah blah"

― Jordan (Jordan), Tuesday, 8 November 2005 22:25 (twenty years ago)

I'm not sure why "who" wouldn't be preferred, since patients are people.

― jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 8 November 2005 22:26 (twenty years ago)

Aw, yes. You mean mdd, right? Short guy avec stache?

I have SIX minutes of work left today! woo hoo!

I vote for WHO.

― Prancing Animals (coco), Tuesday, 8 November 2005 22:26 (twenty years ago)

"mdd"?

I was going to make a joke about "guy who plays drums in Jordan's band" = Jordan himself.

― jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 8 November 2005 22:26 (twenty years ago)

Both are fine.

I think.

― giboyeux (skowly), Tuesday, 8 November 2005 22:27 (twenty years ago)

WHO

― n/a (Nick A.), Tuesday, 8 November 2005 22:27 (twenty years ago)

That's the one, Sarah.

Thanks, I think who is right too, I was just second-guessing myself. I'm going to split and meet my bandmates for dinner & drinks!

― Jordan (Jordan), Tuesday, 8 November 2005 22:28 (twenty years ago)

Don't you recognize me?

http://www.nndb.com/people/214/000029127/john-c-reilly-sized.jpg

― Eazy (Eazy), Tuesday, 8 November 2005 23:09 (twenty years ago)

Who, definitely, because as John says, patients are people.

― pullapartgirl (pullapartgirl), Tuesday, 8 November 2005 23:11 (twenty years ago)

My therapist is a woman. And she looks like Julia.

― Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Tuesday, 8 November 2005 23:49 (twenty years ago)

Mdd= one of Jordan's bands, seeing as how he's in at least two I thought I should clarify...

Good morning!

The manager is grumpy lately because he just got back this week from a eurovacation. Yesterday he was complaining that the filing doesn't get out fast enough. Today he sent out a company wide email about the front door. It's my job to lock it when I leave every day at 4:30, but apparently the door isn't getting locked at the end of the day. In other words, I lock it, someone else unlocks it and doesn't lock it back. In the end, it looks like I'm not doing my job and it's a huge security risk. Thanks, everyone!

In better news, recording last night was fun. New songs are SOOO much more fun to work on than old ones.

― Prancing Animals (coco), Wednesday, 9 November 2005 14:30 (twenty years ago)

Sarah-I assume it's people staying to work late, but it could be cleaning staff that come in very early?

― jocelyn (Jocelyn), Wednesday, 9 November 2005 14:34 (twenty years ago)

Also, thanks to all of you I bought Come on Feel the Illinoise for $10 last night. I love it so far.

― jocelyn (Jocelyn), Wednesday, 9 November 2005 14:35 (twenty years ago)

Is 'Time Machine' a new song? As your pro bono A&R man, I say I smell a hit single.

― Eazy (Eazy), Wednesday, 9 November 2005 14:39 (twenty years ago)

I'll look into the cleaning staff possibility, but I think they enter through the main building, not through our front door...

Thanks, Eazy. :-D Time Machine is one of the newest ones. We haven't worked on adding stuff to that one yet. It totally needs some bleepy keyboards.

― Prancing Animals (coco), Wednesday, 9 November 2005 14:46 (twenty years ago)

WARNING: If you haven't read the "i saw two people get run over by a car" thread yet, I strongly recommend that you don't, if you want to be in any kind of decent mood for the rest of the day.

― n/a (Nick A.), Wednesday, 9 November 2005 14:51 (twenty years ago)

I started reading it, but hit 'later' after a few posts.
I've never seen someone get hit by a car, thank god. I have seen dogs get hit - twice - but they survived in both cases with broken legs (no, I wasn't driving). But enough about that.

I wish it were appropriate to work on my handmade Christmas gifts at my desk at work.

― Prancing Animals (coco), Wednesday, 9 November 2005 14:59 (twenty years ago)

OMG who needs coffee if you're on your first full-sized dose of Wellbutrin?! I've never typed so fast in my life!

― Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Wednesday, 9 November 2005 15:01 (twenty years ago)

I've seen things you... PEOPLE... wouldn't believe...

― Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Wednesday, 9 November 2005 15:02 (twenty years ago)

WARNING: If you haven't read the "i saw two people get run over by a car" thread yet, I strongly recommend that you don't, if you want to be in any kind of decent mood for the rest of the day.

it ain't that bad.

― not-goodwin (not-goodwin), Wednesday, 9 November 2005 15:03 (twenty years ago)

mornin'! does anyone know how amanda's mom did last night?

― kelsey (kelstarry), Wednesday, 9 November 2005 15:03 (twenty years ago)

Aw, looks like she lost. :(

― jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 9 November 2005 16:03 (twenty years ago)

Chicago! OMG they're dead... all dead...

*weeps*

― Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Wednesday, 9 November 2005 16:03 (twenty years ago)

Ok, Jaymc beat me to reviving the thread. I r a loser.

― Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Wednesday, 9 November 2005 16:04 (twenty years ago)

Wait, what?

― jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 9 November 2005 16:05 (twenty years ago)

As a non-regular reader of the Akron Beacon Journal who also has a fierce aversion to giving personal information just to read a newspaper article, perhaps you could sum that up for us, Jaymc.

― Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Wednesday, 9 November 2005 16:05 (twenty years ago)

Um, you don't need to give personal information. You just click on the link. Also I summed it up when I said "she lost."

― jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 9 November 2005 16:06 (twenty years ago)

Oh no, you're right. That's weird. I looked it up on Google news. Try the first link here.

― jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 9 November 2005 16:07 (twenty years ago)

Sorry to be snarky. It's just that my first emotion when I get one of those "Please Subscribe! It's Free!" pages is white-hot rage.

― Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Wednesday, 9 November 2005 16:11 (twenty years ago)

I should write a book. "100 Things That Are Wrong With The Internet".

― Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Wednesday, 9 November 2005 16:13 (twenty years ago)

Me too.

OMG, a girl at work just gave me a WHOLE PLATE of homemade cookies just for being a good reviewer of her work.

― Jordan (Jordan), Wednesday, 9 November 2005 16:14 (twenty years ago)

The nerve of them, making us give them money or information to partake in their services.

― Eazy (Eazy), Wednesday, 9 November 2005 16:18 (twenty years ago)

Bugmenot.com is pretty quick, anyway.

― jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 9 November 2005 16:19 (twenty years ago)

the nerve of her, giving you cookies!

― kelsey (kelstarry), Wednesday, 9 November 2005 16:20 (twenty years ago)

advice needed:

what should i get brooke for her birthday that was two days ago?

also, where should i go to buy cheap work pants?

― kelsey (kelstarry), Wednesday, 9 November 2005 16:21 (twenty years ago)

Quick question: as I mentioned, I sent in a resume for a job I found online. They sent me a writing test, which I took and sent back. Then they emailed me and asked if I could come in for an interview and more tests. They asked if I could come in this week, or next week. I wrote back and said "Next week would be better, how about Monday?" This was yesterday morning. I still haven't heard back about a specific interview time. I have the woman's name who has been contacting me, but no phone number. Would it be weird if I called the general number for the company and asked for her so that I can set up an interview time over the phone? Or should I just email her again? Or just wait?

― n/a (Nick A.), Wednesday, 9 November 2005 16:22 (twenty years ago)

You mean like office work pants or heavy-duty "work pants", Kelsey?

― Jordan (Jordan), Wednesday, 9 November 2005 16:23 (twenty years ago)

office work pants.

i'd love to be in a situation where i needed heavy-duty work pants, though.

nick, i'd say that it's fine to call the general number. it's also okay to wait a day.

― kelsey (kelstarry), Wednesday, 9 November 2005 16:24 (twenty years ago)

The reasons I'm anxious to set this up: if I'm going to take a day off work, I need to ask for it sooner rather than later, and if I'm going to call, it would be easier to do it today when my boss isn't here. She's going to be in tomorrow.

― n/a (Nick A.), Wednesday, 9 November 2005 16:26 (twenty years ago)

oh! totally call, then. you're not being pushy, you're being assertive!

― kelsey (kelstarry), Wednesday, 9 November 2005 16:30 (twenty years ago)

Yeah, I vote for calling. It's good to keep them thinking of you.

You know what's really good? Chocolate chip rice cakes- but I think I've mentioned that before...

― Prancing Animals (coco), Wednesday, 9 November 2005 16:36 (twenty years ago)

Not relevant to your question, but I fucking hate tests at job interviews. I think I've reached a level in my career where I don't have to prove with a quiz that I'm competent for a job. If they can't tell that I'm knowledgeable enough from my resume and the interview, then screw them. If I want tests, I'll do temping again.

― Jeff-PTTL (Jeff), Wednesday, 9 November 2005 16:45 (twenty years ago)

Send her flowers, Nick. Interviewers love flowers.

― Eazy (Eazy), Wednesday, 9 November 2005 16:49 (twenty years ago)

Take her out to dinner.

― Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Wednesday, 9 November 2005 16:51 (twenty years ago)

Father her children. Then she'll have to hire you.

― Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Wednesday, 9 November 2005 16:51 (twenty years ago)

Although then he would be homeless.

― jocelyn (Jocelyn), Wednesday, 9 November 2005 16:52 (twenty years ago)

Really? I LOVE tests! My resume and interviewing skills aren't that amazing, and I tend to test well, so if I get an extra chance to prove that I'm somehow special, I'll take it. Plus, they're kind of fun sometimes.

― n/a (Nick A.), Wednesday, 9 November 2005 16:53 (twenty years ago)

I don't get it. What is this job that is giving you a writing test?

― Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Wednesday, 9 November 2005 16:55 (twenty years ago)

I mean, was it like, creative writing? Did they want a 22-page teleplay?

― Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Wednesday, 9 November 2005 16:55 (twenty years ago)

I had to write A BIOGRAPHY OF MYSELF for this job.

― Jordan (Jordan), Wednesday, 9 November 2005 16:57 (twenty years ago)

I just took a little writing test for a job I applied for. I had to write headlines and short abstracts for different articles. It was hard!

-- n/a (nu...), November 7th, 2005 3:54 PM. (Nick A.) (later) (link)

― jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 9 November 2005 16:58 (twenty years ago)

oh.

― Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Wednesday, 9 November 2005 17:03 (twenty years ago)

It's a long thread, don't worry.

― jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 9 November 2005 17:05 (twenty years ago)

Kenan and Eric, you guys are in trouble. I'm squinting my eyes at you right now. Can you feel it?

One of my coworkers just complained that the Halloween candy I put out in a bowl is melting. It was my fault because I put the bowl on a table in the sunlight and because it's a million degrees in the office. I sure have a lot of responsibility.

― Prancing Animals (coco), Wednesday, 9 November 2005 17:06 (twenty years ago)

your co-workers complain a lot!

― kelsey (kelstarry), Wednesday, 9 November 2005 17:09 (twenty years ago)

I'm still dreaming of that job where I get paid scads of cash to sit and be pretty. Maybe I should get implants...?

― Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Wednesday, 9 November 2005 17:12 (twenty years ago)

hi dudes. i'm crazy tired. my momma lost. she took it well, but she wouldn't stop telling everyone how "ok" with it she was, meaning that she felt like shit and had to repeat "i'm ok" like a thousand times. oh well. someone had to lose.

kelsey, i think old navy is a good place to get work pants. cheap. fit is adequate.

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Wednesday, 9 November 2005 17:20 (twenty years ago)

I know, kels. I think they just feel like whining to me about SOMETHING. It doesn't really bug me that much any more, now that I'm footloose and fancy free (ie: I've read about 10 pages of my RELAX book). ha ha Mostly, I just think they're kind of funny.

― Prancing Animals (coco), Wednesday, 9 November 2005 17:20 (twenty years ago)

the most annoying woman in our office (who is also overweight) is giving dietary advice to the guy in our office that went to the hospital b/c of chest pains.

― kelsey (kelstarry), Wednesday, 9 November 2005 17:23 (twenty years ago)

"What you need is Atkins. Here, have a pork chop."

― Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Wednesday, 9 November 2005 17:25 (twenty years ago)

is this the mcdonald's enthusiast?

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Wednesday, 9 November 2005 17:26 (twenty years ago)

Is it just me or has Atkins kind of disappeared within the last year? I don't hear as many people talking about it anymore.

― jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 9 November 2005 17:26 (twenty years ago)

Yeah, me either. It's over. Thank god.

― Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Wednesday, 9 November 2005 17:28 (twenty years ago)

But back in the day, when I worked in the kind of place where fat people talked about their diets, it was all about Atkins.

― Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Wednesday, 9 November 2005 17:29 (twenty years ago)

"Enthusiast."

― giboyeux (skowly), Wednesday, 9 November 2005 17:30 (twenty years ago)

different person. the mcd's lady had it for breakfast though.

i think atkins has officially switched over to "low carb," "lower carb" or the "low carb option." the name association is over, though.

― kelsey (kelstarry), Wednesday, 9 November 2005 17:32 (twenty years ago)

I was a fat person on Atkins! I lost 20 pounds on it, then gained 10 back, then start weight watchers. It was a fun dalliance though, bacon fucking rocks.

― Jeff-PTTL (Jeff), Wednesday, 9 November 2005 17:37 (twenty years ago)

"Low carb" is fine. Have some fruit. I will forever associate "Atkins" with the pizza made entirely of meat.

― Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Wednesday, 9 November 2005 17:37 (twenty years ago)

I was a fat person on Atkins! I lost 20 pounds on it

See, that's the difference. You were a fat person on a diet. The people I'm thinking of never lost an ounce on any kind of diet, since the only reason they seemed to be on a diet at all was to have something to talk about, and to be able to publicly acknowledge their guilt about eating all the cake in the fucking world three times a week. "Ooooh... this ain't in my diet, but I just can't say no!" And then everyone giggles.

― Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Wednesday, 9 November 2005 17:39 (twenty years ago)

What kind of meat was the crust made out of?

― Jordan (Jordan), Wednesday, 9 November 2005 17:40 (twenty years ago)

But fruit has carbs - oh no! If I were on Atkins, I'd die. It doesn't seem to be very vegetarian friendly.

I know what you're talking about, Paunchy, but I think I hate unhealthily skinny types who talk about dieting all the time more. At least older overweight women have a sort of laughable CATHY appeal to them.

― Prancing Animals (coco), Wednesday, 9 November 2005 17:43 (twenty years ago)

haha

― jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 9 November 2005 17:44 (twenty years ago)

Ack! john LOVES cathy!

― kelsey (kelstarry), Wednesday, 9 November 2005 17:47 (twenty years ago)

xpost Sausage. So I guess pork?

At least older overweight women have a sort of laughable CATHY appeal to them.

Yeah, I think it's more about office culture than the fatness of the people. That and I hate cake. You know that awful grocery store cake with the crusty icing? And if you say you don't want any people make you explain why. And then you explain that it's because it's like eating carpet, and then they think you're a giant asshole.

Actually, I am a giant asshole, but that's beside the point.

― Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Wednesday, 9 November 2005 17:47 (twenty years ago)

Sarah how come you're posting on ILX but I can't reach you on your work phone? Are you posting from another part of the office, via ESP?

― n/a (Nick A.), Wednesday, 9 November 2005 17:47 (twenty years ago)

KENAN DOESN'T LIKE EATING CARPET

― n/a (Nick A.), Wednesday, 9 November 2005 17:47 (twenty years ago)

NO WONDER HE HAS NO GIRLFRIEND

― n/a (Nick A.), Wednesday, 9 November 2005 17:48 (twenty years ago)

(and I wonder why Sarah isn't answering my calls)

― n/a (Nick A.), Wednesday, 9 November 2005 17:48 (twenty years ago)

Kels, you're using the word "loves" very loosely.

― jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 9 November 2005 17:48 (twenty years ago)

I will not respond to that. I could, but I will not.

― Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Wednesday, 9 November 2005 17:49 (twenty years ago)

Judging by past posts I'm suprised you take issue with being a carpet muncher, Kenan.

xpost man you all are quick

― Df'nM (OutDatWay), Wednesday, 9 November 2005 17:49 (twenty years ago)

"If people call me nasty it's because I eat the cat."

― Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Wednesday, 9 November 2005 17:50 (twenty years ago)

I've found that guys in the office are often in the position of eating the treats and letting the others vicariously experience the pleasure. Which is to say that we are asked to eat a lot of the Big Cookie.

― Eazy (Eazy), Wednesday, 9 November 2005 17:51 (twenty years ago)

we love talking about carpet munching.

― kelsey (kelstarry), Wednesday, 9 November 2005 17:51 (twenty years ago)

AAAAARRRGH! I hate the big cookie! Get the big cookie away from me!

― Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Wednesday, 9 November 2005 17:52 (twenty years ago)

Shit, the last treats I had at this office were three bottles of Sam Adams.

― Df'nM (OutDatWay), Wednesday, 9 November 2005 17:52 (twenty years ago)

There's a tradition in my office to bring in treats on YOUR OWN BIRTHDAY. This makes no sense to me, so I refused to do so and will continue to refuse next year as well.

― jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 9 November 2005 17:53 (twenty years ago)

I'll just leave it here on your desk, Kenan.

― Eazy (Eazy), Wednesday, 9 November 2005 17:53 (twenty years ago)

That makes no sense at all, jamyc.

Someone made a cake for a guy named Guy today, and I'm about to go buy chicken wings to go alongside or possibly stick in it.

― Jordan (Jordan), Wednesday, 9 November 2005 17:54 (twenty years ago)

I love when people make a huge deal out of a pile of bagels. OOH! BAGELS! WOW, this is GREAT! I don't bring in treats on my own birthday either. How embarrassing.

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Wednesday, 9 November 2005 17:55 (twenty years ago)

I like bagels.

― Jordan (Jordan), Wednesday, 9 November 2005 17:55 (twenty years ago)

Eric! You are him! You are The Other Guy In The Office Who Is Always Trying To Make Me Eat Things I Honestly Don't Want To Eat!

― Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Wednesday, 9 November 2005 17:55 (twenty years ago)

I like bagels too, but there's something so ridiculous about the effusive praise for bagels. Or donuts.

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Wednesday, 9 November 2005 17:57 (twenty years ago)

We get birthday treats. Usually someone goes to Corner Bakery and gets an assortment of muffins and pastries and stuff. It's fine. At least we don't have to sing happy birthday, like we did at my last job.

― n/a (Nick A.), Wednesday, 9 November 2005 17:58 (twenty years ago)

Ick. Work + Singing reminds me of my poor friends who worked at Wal-Mart in high school.

― Df'nM (OutDatWay), Wednesday, 9 November 2005 17:59 (twenty years ago)

The whole thing is just demoralizing. Working in an office, I mean.

― Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Wednesday, 9 November 2005 18:00 (twenty years ago)

But Amanda, free bagels! For the taking! Unexpectedly!

― jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 9 November 2005 18:01 (twenty years ago)

I gotta say man, this office is pretty sweet. That's because it's part of the U, though. If it was some publishing house downtown it'd probably suck a lot.

― Df'nM (OutDatWay), Wednesday, 9 November 2005 18:01 (twenty years ago)

Hey, Maddie and I won $20 to use at the video store and $20 at Community Pharmacy with MOVIE TRIVIA skills last night at the High Noon!

Actually, I only came in for the last round and was pretty useless anyway. Maddie's friend was largely responsible for the win. I could ask you guys trivia questions if you want.

― Jordan (Jordan), Wednesday, 9 November 2005 18:02 (twenty years ago)

We just had a bit of singing and cake here. Ferociously uncomfortable.

― giboyeux (skowly), Wednesday, 9 November 2005 18:03 (twenty years ago)

Bar trivia is the shit. Too bad it's most commonly found in sports bars.

― Df'nM (OutDatWay), Wednesday, 9 November 2005 18:03 (twenty years ago)

But then everyone stands around and coos about how great bagels are and how awesome it is and if you don't chime in because you don't feel like eating a bagel, especially not with raspberry cream cheese, you're a sourpuss. I'm a sourpuss. It's a nice thought -- maybe I think I find office life demoralizing too.

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Wednesday, 9 November 2005 18:03 (twenty years ago)

Yeah, this was a 20th anniversary party for the best video store in town.

Amanda, you need to get the magic back in your bagel life somehow.

― Jordan (Jordan), Wednesday, 9 November 2005 18:06 (twenty years ago)

Geo-with-two-fs, who some of you know, had a summer job in a theme restaurant where all of the waiters had to sing several times a night. Somehow he hid every time and never sang. Hard to imagine him in that job.

Kenan, you don't have to eat the cookie - it's for other people. I'll just leave it here on your desk, if they want it.

― Eazy (Eazy), Wednesday, 9 November 2005 18:08 (twenty years ago)

TRIVIA TIME

― jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 9 November 2005 18:08 (twenty years ago)

XPOSTORAMA:

Sarah, I hate your coworkers. I do! I really do.
Amanda, I'm sorry your mom lost! I'm glad she's "ok," though.
Dan M, bar trivia is awesome! It's my favorite bar game to play.
Everybody, I love bagels. Especially free ones. You people are nuts.

― pullapartgirl (pullapartgirl), Wednesday, 9 November 2005 18:08 (twenty years ago)

OK. Bar trivia FAP in the not too distant future. I will actually come out this time.

― Df'nM (OutDatWay), Wednesday, 9 November 2005 18:10 (twenty years ago)

Seriously.

― Df'nM (OutDatWay), Wednesday, 9 November 2005 18:10 (twenty years ago)

I'm serious, too. I am very serious about bar trivia. Sometimes, I win, if it's a bar full of stupid people.

― pullapartgirl (pullapartgirl), Wednesday, 9 November 2005 18:11 (twenty years ago)

There's a bar in DE that I like because it's a brew pub and a dear friend makes the beer there and the regulars are bar trivia FREAKS and I like to come in once a year and screw up everybody's stats, then fly back to Chicago, laughing all the way.

― pullapartgirl (pullapartgirl), Wednesday, 9 November 2005 18:12 (twenty years ago)

I have never done bar trivia. But I like trivia and I like drinking.

― n/a (Nick A.), Wednesday, 9 November 2005 18:13 (twenty years ago)

Wait, are there actually bars in the U.S. that have trivia nights?!?! I thought that was a British thing...

― jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 9 November 2005 18:13 (twenty years ago)

I'm the person who always brings bagels. This is because if I say I'm bringing bagels, then no one can bring in nasty nasty Krispy Kremes. One woman here always brings in cheese because she's on (Atkins) low-carb diets. It's quite nice.
I love bar trivia! I once won 20 quid and a case of beer because my friend Holly (Also a K-zoo person!, but after j & k were there) and I knew that the line "I can't even remember what my parents look like" is from Empire of the Sun (it was the Spielburg movie round.

― jocelyn (Jocelyn), Wednesday, 9 November 2005 18:14 (twenty years ago)

I would love to have a night at a bar with all of you playing bar trivia, with copious amounts of Steely Dan and Chicago on the jukebox (for educational purposes only). We may have to go to Aurora to have a night like this, but I think it would be worth doing.

Yes, Jaymc, they're all run by NTN.

― Eazy (Eazy), Wednesday, 9 November 2005 18:14 (twenty years ago)

Okay, which Kurosawa movie is based on King Lear?

(obv. using TEH INTERNET would be cheating)

― Jordan (Jordan), Wednesday, 9 November 2005 18:15 (twenty years ago)

Seriously, if I could get a job in trivia, I would.

― jocelyn (Jocelyn), Wednesday, 9 November 2005 18:15 (twenty years ago)

My old nudist roomie used to enjoy pub trivia. They have places to do this in Skokie too. Ahhh, Skokie.

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Wednesday, 9 November 2005 18:16 (twenty years ago)

Ran.

― jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 9 November 2005 18:16 (twenty years ago)

E: what's NTN?

― jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 9 November 2005 18:16 (twenty years ago)

I still miss high-school Scholastic Bowl.

― jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 9 November 2005 18:17 (twenty years ago)

Correct!

What's the highest grossing movie of all time, adjusting for inflation?

― Jordan (Jordan), Wednesday, 9 November 2005 18:18 (twenty years ago)

I hate bar trivia, the questions are stupid, and I hate the hints.

― Jeff-PTTL (Jeff), Wednesday, 9 November 2005 18:18 (twenty years ago)

Put in your zip code here to find NTN bars

http://direct.where2getit.com/maptools/geoproc.cgi/ntn

xpost Fuck yeah Jaymc! I was in it too. MI state champs 1996 WHAT?!?

― Df'nM (OutDatWay), Wednesday, 9 November 2005 18:19 (twenty years ago)

I'm going to get a sandwich, I will be back with answers and questions.

― Jordan (Jordan), Wednesday, 9 November 2005 18:19 (twenty years ago)

(I hate automated trivia as well, especially when it's WRONG)

― Jordan (Jordan), Wednesday, 9 November 2005 18:19 (twenty years ago)

I was in Academic Superbowl too!
What's the difference between a cross and a crucifix?

― jocelyn (Jocelyn), Wednesday, 9 November 2005 18:20 (twenty years ago)

Gone With the Wind.

― jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 9 November 2005 18:20 (twenty years ago)

I hate the hints too, but it's fun seeing people's reactions to the hints when they don't get them and lose out on points. I have a friend who almost choked on a mozzarella stick 'cause of that.

(She was fine, and we all had a good laugh)

― Df'nM (OutDatWay), Wednesday, 9 November 2005 18:21 (twenty years ago)

Jesus

― Df'nM (OutDatWay), Wednesday, 9 November 2005 18:21 (twenty years ago)

(I hate automated trivia as well, especially when it's WRONG)

"I'm sorry, but the card says Moops."

http://www1.chapman.edu/~hoshi103/image/seinfeld/047_playing_with_bubble_boy.png

― jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 9 November 2005 18:22 (twenty years ago)

ding ding ding

― jocelyn (Jocelyn), Wednesday, 9 November 2005 18:23 (twenty years ago)

Oddly enough, this also works as a bad joke:

What's the difference between a cross and a crucifix?
JESUS!

― n/a (Nick A.), Wednesday, 9 November 2005 18:25 (twenty years ago)

Wait, what else does it work as?

― jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 9 November 2005 18:28 (twenty years ago)

― Df'nM (OutDatWay), Wednesday, 9 November 2005 18:28 (twenty years ago)

http://www.billrotelladrumbeatings.com/rimshot.gif

― Df'nM (OutDatWay), Wednesday, 9 November 2005 18:29 (twenty years ago)

Ah, fuckit.

― Df'nM (OutDatWay), Wednesday, 9 November 2005 18:30 (twenty years ago)

I'm asking this because I really don't know the answer:
What book (barring the Bible & Shakespeare's plays) has had the most film adaptations made from it?

― jocelyn (Jocelyn), Wednesday, 9 November 2005 18:31 (twenty years ago)

That's a good question. First one I thought of:

Oliver Twist (2005)
Oliver Twist (1948)
Oliver Twist (1997) (TV)
"Oliver Twist" (1999) (mini)
Oliver Twist (1982) (TV)
Oliver Twist (1922)
Oliver Twist (1933)
"Oliver Twist" (1985) (mini)
Oliver Twist (1974)
Oliver Twist (1916)
"Oliver Twist" (1960)
"Oliver Twist" (1962) (mini)
Oliver Twist (1962) (TV)
Enfance d'Oliver Twist, L' (1910)
aka "Oliver Twist" - France
Oliver Twist (1981) (TV)
Oliver Twist (1909)
Oliver Twist (1912/I)
Oliver Twist (1912/II)
Oliver Twist (1920)
"Oliver Twist" (1955)

― jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 9 November 2005 18:32 (twenty years ago)

(Which doesn't even include the 1968 Best Picture, Oliver!)

― jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 9 November 2005 18:32 (twenty years ago)

What was Herbie the Love Bug's number?

― Jordan (Jordan), Wednesday, 9 November 2005 18:34 (twenty years ago)

(xpost) Lots for A Christmas Carol, too, although mostly TV adaptations. Dickens has been very adaptation-friendly.

― jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 9 November 2005 18:34 (twenty years ago)

Herbie was a book? And here I thought I was well-read!

― Df'nM (OutDatWay), Wednesday, 9 November 2005 18:35 (twenty years ago)

i thought pride and prejudice, just because of the newest movie. but that's probably not true, it just seems like it.

― Juulia (julesbdules), Wednesday, 9 November 2005 18:36 (twenty years ago)

Ha, I just looked up Pride and Prejudice too! It's definitely got a handful, but Jane Eyre has more.

― jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 9 November 2005 18:37 (twenty years ago)

Really? That seems weird.

― Jordan (Jordan), Wednesday, 9 November 2005 18:37 (twenty years ago)

Not that they're by the same author or anything, I just looked them up at the same time...

― jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 9 November 2005 18:38 (twenty years ago)

bronte, austen, same kinda stuff. all done lots as movies...

― Juulia (julesbdules), Wednesday, 9 November 2005 18:39 (twenty years ago)

54?

― Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Wednesday, 9 November 2005 18:39 (twenty years ago)

Goddamnit! I was so close! That's what I get for not cheating.

― Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Wednesday, 9 November 2005 18:40 (twenty years ago)

Shit, I thought he meant what was Herbie's number on the list of remade films. I'll shut up now.

― Df'nM (OutDatWay), Wednesday, 9 November 2005 18:41 (twenty years ago)

I applaud your honesty (yeah, it's 53).

What monster did Marilyn Monroe have sympathy for in the Seven Year Itch?

― Jordan (Jordan), Wednesday, 9 November 2005 18:41 (twenty years ago)

Yeti?

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Wednesday, 9 November 2005 18:44 (twenty years ago)

I really hate trivia games.

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Wednesday, 9 November 2005 18:44 (twenty years ago)

Not to discourage you-all from it, of course, I'm just terrible at remembering factoids.

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Wednesday, 9 November 2005 18:45 (twenty years ago)

I hate movie questions, because I'm no good at them.

The question I answered to win the closest Quiz Bowl game in my career:

What is the four-letter Egyptian word for "life?" (almost too easy... the other team was so pissed)

― Df'nM (OutDatWay), Wednesday, 9 November 2005 18:46 (twenty years ago)

Some data on adaptations...

A Christmas Carol: 23 (doesn't include Mickey's Christmas Carol, Scrooged, etc.)
Oliver Twist: 21
Jane Eyre: 17
Wuthering Heights: 14
Tale of Two Cities: 13
Great Expectations: 12
Pride and Prejudice: 10

― jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 9 November 2005 18:46 (twenty years ago)

ankh?

― jocelyn (Jocelyn), Wednesday, 9 November 2005 18:48 (twenty years ago)

Actually now that I think about it, it was "Spell the Egyptian word for life."

xpost Correct. You may either choose a fish or take what's in the box.

― Df'nM (OutDatWay), Wednesday, 9 November 2005 18:49 (twenty years ago)

I didn't know "ankh."

― jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 9 November 2005 18:49 (twenty years ago)

See, that I knew.

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Wednesday, 9 November 2005 18:50 (twenty years ago)

I mean, I know the symbol from the jewelry of goth girls, but I didn't know what it meant.

― jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 9 November 2005 18:50 (twenty years ago)

You were obviously spared the goth/Sandman phase in high school.

― jocelyn (Jocelyn), Wednesday, 9 November 2005 18:50 (twenty years ago)

One could get really pedantic about it I guess and say that "Ankh" is the name of the heiroglyph for life, but whatever, we were in high school.

― Df'nM (OutDatWay), Wednesday, 9 November 2005 18:50 (twenty years ago)

I was always bad with classics/mythology. We had a kid named Mark on our team who specialized in that stuff.

― jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 9 November 2005 18:51 (twenty years ago)

Marilyn Monster question counting down, 3...2...

― Jordan (Jordan), Wednesday, 9 November 2005 18:53 (twenty years ago)

That was my specialty! Along with the name this painting/snippet of classical music.

― jocelyn (Jocelyn), Wednesday, 9 November 2005 18:54 (twenty years ago)

A: The Creature from the Black Lagoon

― Jordan (Jordan), Wednesday, 9 November 2005 18:54 (twenty years ago)

I was all about the random knowledge. I've always been horrible at math. Geography, history, some pop culture, and random trash were my thing.

― Df'nM (OutDatWay), Wednesday, 9 November 2005 18:55 (twenty years ago)

Hmmm, I don't think we had audio/visual questions!

― jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 9 November 2005 18:55 (twenty years ago)

Us either. We did get to be on public TV for one tournament, that was awkward.

― Df'nM (OutDatWay), Wednesday, 9 November 2005 18:56 (twenty years ago)

Oh God, the math questions!

Did you guys have a format where there'd be a bonus question every few questions or so, and on that one you could consult with your teammates -- usually you'd write your answer on a piece of paper (so the other team didn't hear you whispering) and then slide it over to the captain, who'd review and then answer?

― jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 9 November 2005 18:57 (twenty years ago)

I think every tournament we were ever in had bonus questions if you got a question right. You'd lose a turn if you intterupted the question and didn't get it right in some as well, which was where the pros were separated from the amateurs.

― Df'nM (OutDatWay), Wednesday, 9 November 2005 18:58 (twenty years ago)

I think you're right that the bonus question was after every correct answer. And they were often multi-part questions about a single subject.

― jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 9 November 2005 18:59 (twenty years ago)

There has to be a thread about Quiz Bowl somewhere on this thing. I'll be damned if I'm going to go find it now though.

― Df'nM (OutDatWay), Wednesday, 9 November 2005 19:00 (twenty years ago)

I'm sure plenty of ILXors were in some kind of academic bowl. Like, I'd be surprised if Jody Beth Rosen wasn't.

― jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 9 November 2005 19:07 (twenty years ago)

We used to get away with so much shit while on trips to tournaments. Like going to U of MI for a tournament and meeting up with alums who were students there, going to parties, etc etc. And the jocks at my school thought they knew how to party!

― Df'nM (OutDatWay), Wednesday, 9 November 2005 19:12 (twenty years ago)

It should come as no surprise to anyone that I was not in an academic bowl. I was kicked off the flag team for excessive scowling though! That's something to be proud of!

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Wednesday, 9 November 2005 19:12 (twenty years ago)

You guys, I miss trivia so much that last week I went to see if there were any Jeopardy! searches in the Midwest. (There's not.)

― jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 9 November 2005 19:14 (twenty years ago)

Amanda, why should it come as "no surprise"?

― jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 9 November 2005 19:15 (twenty years ago)

I looked into that in college after a girl from my school made the college tournament (and won, I think?) It looked really hard, and I figured I had already killed too much of my brain with beer by that point.

― Df'nM (OutDatWay), Wednesday, 9 November 2005 19:15 (twenty years ago)

Amanda, that cements your position as my hero.

We didn't have an academic bowl at my school. We did have science olympiad, but that was for nerds. Unlike Model UN, in which I participated, which was for the cool kids. (insert excessive scowling here)

― pullapartgirl (pullapartgirl), Wednesday, 9 November 2005 19:16 (twenty years ago)

I was on "It's Academic!" I was also on the forensics team, which has to do with debate and law, not with dusting corpses for prints.

As far as most-adapted book, this might be cheating, but how about the King Arhur legends in their various forms?

― n/a (Nick A.), Wednesday, 9 November 2005 19:18 (twenty years ago)

Or King Arthur even?

― n/a (Nick A.), Wednesday, 9 November 2005 19:18 (twenty years ago)

Amanda, why should it come as "no surprise"?
Because I am TERRIBLE with facts! I'm like the total opposite of you. I'm not a complete idiot, but can easily be mistaken for one by the number of times I bungle a name or date or fact/oid of any sort. Also, I was not a joiner. Although I admit that the flag team was fun because it involved music and dancing. And band camp.

Jenny, you're really the queen, I bow to you.

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Wednesday, 9 November 2005 19:19 (twenty years ago)

I was kicked off the flag team for excessive scowling though! That's something to be proud of!

i would just like to second the opinion that that fucking rocks.

― Juulia (julesbdules), Wednesday, 9 November 2005 19:22 (twenty years ago)

Smiling can be so demeaning, can't it? You should see our family photos from those years. HILARITY.

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Wednesday, 9 November 2005 19:26 (twenty years ago)

I don't know about you guys, but I've eaten an imposing amount of cookies today,.

― Jordan (Jordan), Wednesday, 9 November 2005 19:33 (twenty years ago)

How about mini-candy bars people have been bringing in from Halloween? I don't even like TWIX that much! Damnit!

― Prancing Animals (coco), Wednesday, 9 November 2005 19:40 (twenty years ago)

OMG I love Twix. It's my favorite.

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Wednesday, 9 November 2005 19:41 (twenty years ago)

MMMMMM. Twix.

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Wednesday, 9 November 2005 19:41 (twenty years ago)

Those M-Azing bars were suprisingly good. Thank you landlord, thank you lazy trick-or-treaters of West Belden Ave.!

― Df'nM (OutDatWay), Wednesday, 9 November 2005 19:43 (twenty years ago)

Ooof, I just got my first and only midterm back and I did REALLY BADLY! Wow. Like surprisingly so. I thought the test was easy, too.

Thank god you can't really flunk out of law school, but this doesn't help with the "Why didn't you make the dean's list this semsester" I am going to have with my mother when our semester grades come out.

― pullapartgirl (pullapartgirl), Wednesday, 9 November 2005 19:44 (twenty years ago)

Jenny, that just happened to me too, but on a paper. I'm dreading getting my midterm back. I had to go talk to her and beg her to let me rewrite it, which she did. I was NOT PLEASED with my grade though. It could ruin my 4.0!!

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Wednesday, 9 November 2005 19:47 (twenty years ago)

Pls. insert the word "coversation" between "semester" and "I" in my last post, and excuse my mistake. I am not v. bright.

― pullapartgirl (pullapartgirl), Wednesday, 9 November 2005 19:50 (twenty years ago)

I thought the test was easy, too.

This is always how it works.

Hey: where is there bar trivia in Chicago? I know they do it Grizzly's (I THINK that's what it's called) on Lincoln (3800 or so), but I've never seen it anywhere else.

I MURDER bar trivia. MURDER IT, I TELL YOU.

― giboyeux (skowly), Wednesday, 9 November 2005 19:51 (twenty years ago)

I just wanted to add that I was a debater. Preferred Lincoln Douglas, but somehow excelled at CX. You think it was all the evidence I made up?

― Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Wednesday, 9 November 2005 19:54 (twenty years ago)

That NTN site I linked above has a site-finder for places with trivia.

― Df'nM (OutDatWay), Wednesday, 9 November 2005 20:24 (twenty years ago)

For Kenan.

― jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 9 November 2005 20:25 (twenty years ago)

What is CX? We didn't have debate team at my school.

― jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 9 November 2005 20:26 (twenty years ago)

Oh, shit, John! I was going to post that very same article!

I am interested what you Chicago ILXors think about that article.

Here's my take: I like kids, generally, but I hate 1) entitlement and 2) rude people of any age, so all these offended A-ville moms can sit and spin for all I care. If you want to let your kid run around and scream, go to Chuck E. Cheese. If you have raised well-behaved kiddos who know how to act in public, lets have coffee and scones together.

― pullapartgirl (pullapartgirl), Wednesday, 9 November 2005 20:30 (twenty years ago)

xpost

Cross eXamination. Or, policy debate. You do it in teams, and one of the key elements is this box of index cards that become your little bible. You can pull one out as evidence to support any point. You're not supposed to make up fake quotes and facts in the middle of a debate, but it does happen. Just don't get caught, that's the key.

As opposed to Lincoln Douglas, where it's one on one, relatively calmer, and all about values. Big picture stuff. It's all pretty fun. Especially when you emotionally scar someone for life. One of my teammates took special pleasure in making girls cry.

― Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Wednesday, 9 November 2005 20:31 (twenty years ago)

Oh, and nevermind my group email. Another time.

― Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Wednesday, 9 November 2005 20:32 (twenty years ago)

I dislike children and like gay men. So even though I know this particular man to be a nutter, I'm totally on his side.

― Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Wednesday, 9 November 2005 20:32 (twenty years ago)

The article was interesting. I'm basically with Jenny on this one; the entitlement behind the thought that the cafes/restaurants have to put up with kids if they don't want to is kind of silly; aren't there like 8,000 coffeeshops in Andersonville? It's not like there's no alternative for parents with kids.

― n/a (Nick A.), Wednesday, 9 November 2005 20:33 (twenty years ago)

Totally OTM Jenny. There are kid-places and adult places and if a kid starts screaming in an adult place while I'm trying to write a paper, that kid and his/her mother are both getting a nasty look from me.

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Wednesday, 9 November 2005 20:34 (twenty years ago)

Yeah, I think I agree with you for the most part, Jenny -- but from what I understand about the ToH owner (via K.), I don't have a difficult time imagining that he's also being an asshole.

I was surprised that a Women and Children First employee put the kibosh on breast-feeding. I mean, if you can breast-feed anywhere, it's there, right?

― jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 9 November 2005 20:34 (twenty years ago)

I did CX then on the debate team (9th grade).

Jenny, have no fear! My sister was shocked when she first got her grades in law school, but the reality is that everyone does pretty badly. At the end of the semester, major curves are applied to the scores and VOILA!

― Prancing Animals (coco), Wednesday, 9 November 2005 20:36 (twenty years ago)

Who brings their screaming litter into an upscale coffee and pastry shop, anyway? I mean, I know the pastries are good, but you're the one who decided to have three kids. No pastry for you. No more movies, either. Get one sitter.

― Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Wednesday, 9 November 2005 20:37 (twenty years ago)

Suddenly I want to exercise my god given right as a single, childless male to have some sour cream coffee cake.

― Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Wednesday, 9 November 2005 20:38 (twenty years ago)

If we reproduce, I worry I'm going to stifle my poor child to Victorian extremes. I'm all for acting silly and dancing and shouting WHEN APPROPRIATE, but I value quiet and stillness and the ability to be quiet and still very highly. Let's hope we have a naturally quiet and still kid. (Note: I was an extremely quiet and serious kid. My mother says I hardly ever smiled, just kind of looked at people quizzically when they would act foolish, trying to get me to laugh.)

xpost to John - the breast feeding ban in a FEMINIST BOOKSTORE suprised me, too! Breast feeding in public is a very quiet and still activity, thus I am all for it.

Sarah - thanks, boo! I hope that's what happens here. There is still a chance I can bring it up. But note that I am posting on ILX instead of paying attention in class.

― pullapartgirl (pullapartgirl), Wednesday, 9 November 2005 20:39 (twenty years ago)

I don't really consider this an anti-kid thing, I think kids are generally great, and I don't even mind noisy kids in restaurants (movies are a different matter). I consider this a "business owners are allowed to set the guidelines for the services and goods that they provide" thing.

― n/a (Nick A.), Wednesday, 9 November 2005 20:40 (twenty years ago)

"I think that the mothers who allow their kids to run around and scream, that's wrong, but kids scream and there is nothing you can do about it. What are we supposed to do, not enjoy ourselves at a cafe?",

YES. That is what you are supposed to do.

― Jordan (Jordan), Wednesday, 9 November 2005 20:41 (twenty years ago)

Although while I agree in principle, the only places I personally mind loud kids are work and movies.

― Jordan (Jordan), Wednesday, 9 November 2005 20:42 (twenty years ago)

KENAN I THOUGHT YOU HATED ALL FORMS OF CAKE AND COOKIES ANYWAY, GET YOUR STORY STRAIGHT BUSTER.

― n/a (Nick A.), Wednesday, 9 November 2005 20:42 (twenty years ago)

I consider this a "business owners are allowed to set the guidelines for the services and goods that they provide" thing.

Just for the sake of argument, TS: the coffee show down the street from school refuses to accept pennies in payment for goods and services. Appropriate business guideline or just total crap?

― pullapartgirl (pullapartgirl), Wednesday, 9 November 2005 20:43 (twenty years ago)

Yeah - I don't really care about the breastfeeding either, so long as it's discreet, and I'm surprised that someone wouldn't be allowed to do it in that store.
Quiet = good. Unless they're at home, then by all means, bust out the Kidz Bop and party down.

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Wednesday, 9 November 2005 20:43 (twenty years ago)

W&CF also bans cell phones, I think.

― jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 9 November 2005 20:44 (twenty years ago)

Did I already tell the story about when my friends and I took sick revenge on a Chili's by paying in *nothing* but pennies?

― Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Wednesday, 9 November 2005 20:44 (twenty years ago)

Well the thing about restrictive business guidelines is that if they're crap enough, people will stop patronizing those businesses and they will change or go out of business.

As a non-cell-phone-owner, I am all for the banning of cell phones from businesses. Quimby's has all those signs telling you to turn off your phone, and if it goes off or if you're on your phone in there, they're bitchy to you.

― n/a (Nick A.), Wednesday, 9 November 2005 20:46 (twenty years ago)

Why would being a non-cell-phone-owner make you more likely to support a cell-phone ban? I can definitely see how it can be annoying to the employees of the store -- like if you're simultaneously trying to pay for your book and also gabbing on the phone (the U.S. Post Office has a sign that says "please do not talk on your cell phone when you are at the window") -- but what's annoying about it as a fellow customer? How is it any different than if someone was carrying on a conversation to someone next to them?

― jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 9 November 2005 20:49 (twenty years ago)

I was just being jokey about my self-righteousness: i.e., it's easy for me to be anti-cell phone because I don't have one.

― n/a (Nick A.), Wednesday, 9 November 2005 20:51 (twenty years ago)

when is someone going to start building cell phone booths? a place where people can go to talk, on the street (like a phone booth) but with no phone in it! they could be cheap, even decorative, and would eliminate this quibbling.

also, people could shove their bratty kids in there.

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Wednesday, 9 November 2005 20:53 (twenty years ago)

Oh, I see. Yeah, I'm fine with cell-phone bans (mostly for the reason you gave earlier, Nick: businesses should be able to set their own restrictions) -- although it does make me nervous sometimes... Should I turn my phone off? If I get a call, should I decline it, or scurry outside?

― jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 9 November 2005 20:53 (twenty years ago)

One thing that really pains me about that article is that women do not generally chose to care for three children BY THEMSELVES. Usually, there is a man involved too, but how often do you see men out with children alone in public places? Loud children = bad mothering, simply because when the man wants to go out and have a latte, the woman has to stay home and watch the kids. (I'm SO BITTER! ME and MY THREE KIDS! HUSBAND don't DO SHIT!) It just makes me feel sorry for the moms.

Anyway, I've never been annoyed by kids in restaurants, even snooty breakfast establishments. Generally, they are cute and at least pause for a second to stare at you with their big eyes. I'm more likely to get annoyed with a parent who is screaming at their kid or smacking them around and making them cry.

HOWEVER, kids in adult (ie: PG-13/R) movies kicking the back of your seat = dud dud dud.

― Prancing Animals (coco), Wednesday, 9 November 2005 20:54 (twenty years ago)

In fact, I don't think kids should be allowed to go to R rated movies in the theater, even with an adult. There, I said it.

― Prancing Animals (coco), Wednesday, 9 November 2005 20:57 (twenty years ago)

Well I hate to generalize but I'm assuming that in these situations the husband is at work.

― n/a (Nick A.), Wednesday, 9 November 2005 20:59 (twenty years ago)

So you only see the mothers with the kids because LADIES ARE TOO LAZY TO GET A JOB.

― n/a (Nick A.), Wednesday, 9 November 2005 21:00 (twenty years ago)

Sarah if we ever have kids you can get a job and I'll stay home and take the kids to fancy coffeshops and annoy assholes. Deal?

― n/a (Nick A.), Wednesday, 9 November 2005 21:01 (twenty years ago)

And we'll all have cellphones.

― n/a (Nick A.), Wednesday, 9 November 2005 21:01 (twenty years ago)

I just pictured a cheesy Sears portrait of you guys with two random children, all four of you holding your cellphones to your ears and smiling.

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Wednesday, 9 November 2005 21:02 (twenty years ago)

The best ever was when (for some reason) we went to the grand opening of the first Pizza Hut in New Zealand. There was this adorable baby getting all kinds of attention, smiling, giggling, and behaving really, really well. My mom started making faces and cooing at it (like all the other people around.) It looked right at her, and you could see the exact instant its mind changed, and it burst out into the biggest fit of crying and tantrum-throwing ever. Everyone stared at us. My mom was so embarassed we had to leave the place.

I generally don't mind kids/cell phones in public places. Then again, I usually have headphones on.

― Df'nM (OutDatWay), Wednesday, 9 November 2005 21:03 (twenty years ago)

Sarah, that's a really good point, re Moms and Dads. It's like this commercial for Sears I think with a bratty kid flinging cheerios from his high chair while the father looks on helpless and says in a tired voice, "Where is your mother?"

Well, she's SHOPPING! A woman's favorite past time, after hanging out with her children! And of course she should be home because it's her duty and because everybody knows fathers can't actully do anything with kids but watch helplessly as they ruin lives and WORLDS and SOULS.

I like to wave at little kids in restaurants. Remember that kid at Sarah's birthday who looked like Danny Torrence and we got her (I think it was a girl) to wiggle her finger like it was Tony talking? Yeah, that was awesome.

― pullapartgirl (pullapartgirl), Wednesday, 9 November 2005 21:03 (twenty years ago)

http://www.istockphoto.com/file_thumbview_approve/382736/2/istockphoto_382736_little_kid_phoning.jpg

― jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 9 November 2005 21:03 (twenty years ago)

I'm kind of shocked at the tone taken in that article, all those people with children are making not-very-thinly veiled excuses for themselves and their inattention -- holy shit, dude, the entitlement complex is a mile thick.

― Laurel (Laurel), Wednesday, 9 November 2005 21:03 (twenty years ago)

WOMEN BE SHOPPIN
KIDS BE CRYIN
MEN BE MORONS

― n/a (Nick A.), Wednesday, 9 November 2005 21:04 (twenty years ago)

Whoa, Sears syncronicity!

My perfect child rearing scenario would involve Jeff as a stay at home dad, getting his masters/PhD while I go out and fight injustice in the workplace. Even better if Jeff can bring the kidlet to the office so I can breast feed and stuff. Discreetly, of course.

― pullapartgirl (pullapartgirl), Wednesday, 9 November 2005 21:05 (twenty years ago)

Nick, you just summed up like all commercial television advertising that doesn't involve beer or trucks.

― pullapartgirl (pullapartgirl), Wednesday, 9 November 2005 21:06 (twenty years ago)

Of course, this is pretty assholish as well:

including Janelle Funk, who wrote, "Whenever a hostess asks me 'smoking or non-smoking?' I respond, 'No kids!' "

― Jordan (Jordan), Wednesday, 9 November 2005 21:06 (twenty years ago)

Well, better if you'd said WOMEN BE SHOPPIN' OR PERHAPS CLEANING OR COOKING OR ENGAGING IN OTHER DOMESTIC ACTIVITIES.

― pullapartgirl (pullapartgirl), Wednesday, 9 November 2005 21:07 (twenty years ago)

For some reason I read that as "MEN BE MORMONS"

*shudder*

― Df'nM (OutDatWay), Wednesday, 9 November 2005 21:07 (twenty years ago)

MEN, BE MORMONS!

― n/a (Nick A.), Wednesday, 9 November 2005 21:07 (twenty years ago)

You know what commercial I enjoy? The Dunkin Donuts one with the middle aged white CEO guy with his hair in cornrows. It's not brilliantly written or anything, but both actors play their parts with some impressive comedic talent. It makes me laugh just to think of the expression on that guy's face when he says "I was in the mood to try something different," HO HO HO HO HO!

― n/a (Nick A.), Wednesday, 9 November 2005 21:10 (twenty years ago)

One of my friends in college was raised equally by both parents. She had a stay-at-home dad for the first few years of her life. Then her dad went back to work and her mom stayed at home until all the kids were old enough.

― Prancing Animals (coco), Wednesday, 9 November 2005 21:10 (twenty years ago)

The owner of John's Place, which resembles a kindergarten class at recess in early evening, established a separate "family friendly" room a year ago, only to face parental threats of lawsuits.

Area around Diversey and Sheffield swarming with children of yuppies shocker.

― jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 9 November 2005 21:10 (twenty years ago)

Westsiiiiiiide

The kids just play in the street.

― Df'nM (OutDatWay), Wednesday, 9 November 2005 21:12 (twenty years ago)

My mom worked 3 - 11 and my dad has a normal day job, so for the majority of my young life, my father was the main caretaker and my mom was this wonderful, spectral woman who came into my room at night smelling like original flavor Trident to kiss me when she got off work.

― pullapartgirl (pullapartgirl), Wednesday, 9 November 2005 21:12 (twenty years ago)

Both my folks are profs, so I spent a lot of time as a wee one hanging around libraries, offices, and labs. My mom worked part time until my sister and I were in high school.

― Df'nM (OutDatWay), Wednesday, 9 November 2005 21:13 (twenty years ago)

Yeah, I went to that place once with Nick. I don't think he'll be joining me there again ever, but it wasn't because of the kids.

― Prancing Animals (coco), Wednesday, 9 November 2005 21:13 (twenty years ago)

Since my dad is a teacher, he was always home no later than 4 pm and made dinner. The only time my mom made dinner was on weekends, and that was a joint operation, anyway (although she prided herself on her homemade pizza).

― jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 9 November 2005 21:14 (twenty years ago)

Yeah, I went to that place once with Nick. I don't think he'll be joining me there again ever, but it wasn't because of the kids.

Where? John's Place? It just looks very ... Lincoln Park-ish.

― jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 9 November 2005 21:15 (twenty years ago)

Wow.

My mom has never worked, so she was always home when I was young. When my parents got divorced I became a latchkey kid, which I didn't mind.

xpost to Jenny

― Jordan (Jordan), Wednesday, 9 November 2005 21:16 (twenty years ago)

John, Yeah, it's pretty hoity toity.

― Prancing Animals (coco), Wednesday, 9 November 2005 21:17 (twenty years ago)

Yeah, Jay, that's what I don't understand about the Problem Parents mentioned -- so the establishment SPECIALLY CREATED a space where your children could be a little more hem hem "spirited" with a minimum of inconvenience to other customers...and you have the chutzpah to OBJECT to using that space?

I used to spend a lot of time at a coffee shop in Jersey City which eventually caught on with the yuppies. I don't mind kids wandering around being mildly inquisitive, but when you are mid-cigarette in the smoking section and you have to STOP EVERYTHING to save some kid who is a) wandering around inhaling second-hand smoke without anyone noticing and b) two inches away from sticking hand into open flame of candle, the parent of said toddler totally owes you a round.

― Laurel (Laurel), Wednesday, 9 November 2005 21:17 (twenty years ago)

That place sucked! It's not even fancy, it's just a bunch of LINCOLN PARK PEOPLE. And the food was unimpressive.

― n/a (Nick A.), Wednesday, 9 November 2005 21:19 (twenty years ago)

How do we feel about kids in bars? That always freaks me out a little.

― Jordan (Jordan), Wednesday, 9 November 2005 21:21 (twenty years ago)

The tone of the article reeks of don't you dare try to tell me what to do, you plebs who are working minimum wage jobs.

― jocelyn (Jocelyn), Wednesday, 9 November 2005 21:22 (twenty years ago)

BOO -- there should not be kids in bars! That's depressing. Especially when they come in looking for their parents.

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Wednesday, 9 November 2005 21:22 (twenty years ago)

Yeah, me too. It's like, why would you expose your child to the things that go on here?

xpost

― Df'nM (OutDatWay), Wednesday, 9 November 2005 21:22 (twenty years ago)

I don't mind kids in bars now that there's no smoking allowed, I kind of like the "bar as pub" idea in which it's more of a gathering place for community and less of a meat-market. But don't expect everyone to switch to G-rated behavior for your child's benefit, either. I mean, it's nice if they do but hardly your right to demand.

― Laurel (Laurel), Wednesday, 9 November 2005 21:24 (twenty years ago)

Yeah, for me I think it probably depends on the kind of bar.

― jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 9 November 2005 21:25 (twenty years ago)

I would say it depends on the bar, the kid, and the time of day.

For example, the aforementioned brew pub is a bar and restaraunt in a state with a no smoking ban, and the kid in question is the brew masters daughter, and it's not past bed time. Seems okay to me.

Real life example: I used to work in a redneck bar in NC with a really horrifying karaoke night every other Friday. The rednecks would bring their children with them to enjoy karaoke, and keep them there until close, which is 2 AM. Not okay.

Real life example 2: My father used to take me to a bar called The Mill with him when I was little because he was hitting on a waitress there. I didn't mind because I could play tabletop Ms. Pacman. Probably also not okay, for about a bazillion reasons, not least of which being that my father was still married to my mother, who conveniently worked nights, at the time.

― pullapartgirl (pullapartgirl), Wednesday, 9 November 2005 21:26 (twenty years ago)

I sure am airing a lot of parental dirty laundry on this thread today! Wow!

― pullapartgirl (pullapartgirl), Wednesday, 9 November 2005 21:27 (twenty years ago)

Too bad I wasn't around for the therapy discussion yesterday.

― pullapartgirl (pullapartgirl), Wednesday, 9 November 2005 21:27 (twenty years ago)

If people have kids and they want to drink, can they not gather at home and drink and hang out with their friends? Why does it have to be in public? That's what block parties and bbqs are for.

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Wednesday, 9 November 2005 21:27 (twenty years ago)

On the other hand, Ms. Pac Man. I totally got the high score at the bar I was at last night!

xpost

― Jordan (Jordan), Wednesday, 9 November 2005 21:28 (twenty years ago)

They played pool in a bar, I seem to recall:

http://archives.cnn.com/2000/SHOWBIZ/Movies/12/21/sbtst.ruffalo/movie.jpg

― jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 9 November 2005 21:30 (twenty years ago)

I suppose if it's a way-out-in-the-country bar and the kid in there is related to the people who own the place, that's different. Either way, I'm leaving now, homiez!

My 4.5 hours are done for the day. Hasta el jueves.

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Wednesday, 9 November 2005 21:31 (twenty years ago)

Hasta el huevos.

No, wait. That's way wrong.

― pullapartgirl (pullapartgirl), Wednesday, 9 November 2005 21:32 (twenty years ago)

Has the smoking ban taken effect already? I'm so happy that passed. (sorry smokers)

― Df'nM (OutDatWay), Wednesday, 9 November 2005 21:32 (twenty years ago)

You know, I AM of two minds about parents drinking when there's not one specifically sober person watching the kid(s). I mean, "drinking" apart from, like, wine with dinner or a beer after finishing the yard work or whatev. I said I don't mind kids in bars and I DON'T, necessarily, but I am putting my prudish foot down about drinking to tipsiness when you're responsibile for minors just because of their safety. If I had to quantify it I'd probably suggest the same standards as drinking & driving -- no more than one drink per hour, with food blah blah.

― Laurel (Laurel), Wednesday, 9 November 2005 21:33 (twenty years ago)

Has the smoking ban taken effect already? I'm so happy that passed. (sorry smokers)

Wait, what? In Chicago?

― jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 9 November 2005 21:35 (twenty years ago)

No, no smoking ban in Chicago yet. Laurel is elsewhere, and the bar I'm talking about is in Delaware, which has a state-wide smoking ban.

― pullapartgirl (pullapartgirl), Wednesday, 9 November 2005 21:35 (twenty years ago)

Just found this:

A City Council committee has approved a ban on smoking in the city's restaurants and bars, but the full council will wait to vote on the measure while aldermen try to craft a compromise with the state's restaurant industry.

The Health Committee approved the proposal Thursday. But committee chairman Alderman Ed Smith said the ban won't be voted on at Tuesday's City Council meeting.

"I'm in no big hurry," he said. "I'm going to give (opponents) a chance."

― jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 9 November 2005 21:37 (twenty years ago)

I must have been misinformed. I could have sworn I heard that was going through.

― Df'nM (OutDatWay), Wednesday, 9 November 2005 21:40 (twenty years ago)

I hope so, too. (Sorry, smokers.)

― pullapartgirl (pullapartgirl), Wednesday, 9 November 2005 21:41 (twenty years ago)

Well, it definitely seems like it's closer than it ever has been.

― jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 9 November 2005 21:41 (twenty years ago)

They passed one in Boston a bit before I went and visited there a couple years ago, and I gotta say it was really, really nice. And I was still a smoker at the time!

― Df'nM (OutDatWay), Wednesday, 9 November 2005 21:42 (twenty years ago)

You know, I've been against the ban, but as an irregular smoker, it's possible that I won't mind it too much, since no one else will be smoking at bars, either, and so it won't look so tempting.

― jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 9 November 2005 21:42 (twenty years ago)

Cigarette smoke has been bothering me exponentially more lately, to the point that I'm chosing not to even go out in it without a very compelling reason. Hell, I was in the elevator today with someone who just had been smoking outside and it was really, really nasty to be in that enclosed space. I know a smoking ban wouldn't help there, though. But maybe it would stop the glut of 10 students packed into the doorway and smoking. Gross.

― pullapartgirl (pullapartgirl), Wednesday, 9 November 2005 21:48 (twenty years ago)

Totally. I LIKE places that have kids around, for the most part. And -- sorry guys -- I tend to think of people that have an immediate No Kids reaction to be sort of Grinchy.

I def went to bars with parents when I was a kid, but it was always in England and that sort of thing is completely normal.

xpost I'm for the ban from a "smelling like smoke sucks and sometimes I smoke" point of view. I'm kind of against it from a "why don't bars and restaurants just do it on a case by case basis? Smokers will hang out smoker bars and non-smokers will go somewhere else." Economics, people!

― giboyeux (skowly), Wednesday, 9 November 2005 21:48 (twenty years ago)

That's what I've been saying all along, gib.

― jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 9 November 2005 21:49 (twenty years ago)

We're getting one here, but people are annoyed because it's only for WEST Lafayette, so they have visions of a mass exodus parting the Wabash River and going across to the land of cheaper beer and smoking. My opinion is that most of the WL crowd are carless students who are loathe to walk a few blocks in the cold let alone across the bridge.

― jocelyn (Jocelyn), Wednesday, 9 November 2005 21:49 (twenty years ago)

people=establishment owners

― jocelyn (Jocelyn), Wednesday, 9 November 2005 21:50 (twenty years ago)

Middle ground = easy to acquire "smoking licenses." Sure, it's not the best solution (I'm not a huge fan of unnecessary credentialing), but it would generate revenue for the city and allow pro-smoking establishments a way to carve out a niche for themselves.

― giboyeux (skowly), Wednesday, 9 November 2005 21:57 (twenty years ago)

I think the economic argument is a good one in theory, but I think that self-regulation based on supposed economic repercussions doesn't work quite as well in practice. For example, for hundreds of years Chicago bars have had the option of going non-smoking and letting the patrons and economics sort it out. But no bars have actually done that out of fear of losing business. Even with all the apparent public support for a ban, no bar is willing to take that first step, and as a result, the majority (supposedly) of the city has to suffer.

Well, actually, according to Centerstage, there are 18, but that includes bars with no-smoking restaurant sections, but that allow smoking in the actual bar part (Berghoff, Hopleaf). And one drumming bar, for christ's sake.

Therefore, because so few bars have opted to go non-smoking and letting the free market run the show, I submit that the free market solution has already failed.

― pullapartgirl (pullapartgirl), Wednesday, 9 November 2005 22:04 (twenty years ago)

But then almost everywhere would still be smoking, and business owners would bitch about the city gouging them. If a specific business wants to be non-smoking, they can choose that even without a ban.

xpost

― Jordan (Jordan), Wednesday, 9 November 2005 22:05 (twenty years ago)

Jenny said what I was trying to say, except better.

― Jordan (Jordan), Wednesday, 9 November 2005 22:06 (twenty years ago)

Wait...DRUMMING BAR!!!

― Jordan (Jordan), Wednesday, 9 November 2005 22:07 (twenty years ago)

It's not drum circle drumming is it?

― Df'nM (OutDatWay), Wednesday, 9 November 2005 22:09 (twenty years ago)

'Cause goddamn, I hate that shit.

― Df'nM (OutDatWay), Wednesday, 9 November 2005 22:10 (twenty years ago)

Licenses are one solution, but there are problems with the costs of setting it up and enforcement and application. How many licenses will the city issue? Who gets them? Who decides how many go out per neighborhood? Tax breaks for bars that chose to go smoke free might be another solution. But with the latter, the bar owner would have to weigh the tax break with the possibility of losing business and guess which would be more expensive. This might lead to the same place where we are now: bar owners being too worried about losing business to take a course of action that, again, it seems like most people want.

I don't actually know if most people in Chicago want a smoking ban, but I recall reading somewhere that there is a lot of support. Of course, you have a tyranny of the majority issue then, but I think that has to be balanced against the effect of the minority right on the majority, and the level of curtailment. In other words, while banning gay sex is bullshit even if the majority of people are religious and straight, gay sex doesn't have a direct effecton anyone not participating, and banning sex for anyone is a huge infringment on his or her rights. But smoke fucks with everybody who is near it, and nobody is banning the sale or possesion of cigarattes, just limiting their use to private places.

― pullapartgirl (pullapartgirl), Wednesday, 9 November 2005 22:10 (twenty years ago)

(xpost) Yes, it is.

― jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 9 November 2005 22:10 (twenty years ago)

IT IS DRUM CIRCLE DRUMMING.

No good, people. No good.

― pullapartgirl (pullapartgirl), Wednesday, 9 November 2005 22:11 (twenty years ago)

Jenny, you are well on your way to being an awesome lawyer.

― jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 9 November 2005 22:11 (twenty years ago)

BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

(to drum circles, not to Jenny's exceptional argument)

― Df'nM (OutDatWay), Wednesday, 9 November 2005 22:12 (twenty years ago)

Yeah, drum circles are pretty lame in practice. Oh cool.

Obv. drinking & drumming is fun if you get a few really GOOD drummers together.

― Jordan (Jordan), Wednesday, 9 November 2005 22:13 (twenty years ago)

...I've been involved in a few pretty fun drum circles. MAKING NOISE = FUN.

Not participating, on the other hand, blows.

― giboyeux (skowly), Wednesday, 9 November 2005 22:16 (twenty years ago)

gib, weren't you telling me the other day about your shameful hippie past?

― jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 9 November 2005 22:20 (twenty years ago)

I'm not sure if this is a shameful secret or not, but drum circles have always seemed really fun to me. I've never participated in one, but come on, a bunch of people playing drums!

― n/a (Nick A.), Wednesday, 9 November 2005 22:22 (twenty years ago)

Eh, I'm all about multi-drummers if it works well (certain Fugazi songs come to mind.) But I can just imagine what a drum circle bar would be like... So many String Cheese Incident fans!

― Df'nM (OutDatWay), Wednesday, 9 November 2005 22:23 (twenty years ago)

It really only works when people stick to repetitive parts so you can build up something that makes sense, and then maybe have one or two soloists on top.

xpost

― Jordan (Jordan), Wednesday, 9 November 2005 22:24 (twenty years ago)

DRUM CIRCLE FAP

― Jordan (Jordan), Wednesday, 9 November 2005 22:25 (twenty years ago)

I'm bringing my Projection Ride.

― Df'nM (OutDatWay), Wednesday, 9 November 2005 22:26 (twenty years ago)

THAT IS NOT A DRUM

― Jordan (Jordan), Wednesday, 9 November 2005 22:27 (twenty years ago)

DAMN! Foiled again

― Df'nM (OutDatWay), Wednesday, 9 November 2005 22:29 (twenty years ago)

So long, all... Lakeshore Drive is callin' me.

― Df'nM (OutDatWay), Wednesday, 9 November 2005 22:30 (twenty years ago)

The worst thing about drum circles is having to hang around the kind of people who form drum circles.

― Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Wednesday, 9 November 2005 22:37 (twenty years ago)

http://spalliance.net/902b.jpg

― Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Wednesday, 9 November 2005 22:38 (twenty years ago)

I confess: in college, I went camping/hiking all the time with people that

* had dreads
* smoked pot
* LOVED Phish and String Cheese
* played banjos
* hippy-danced at world music concerts

I, however, was NOT a hippy! I swear! Although, I did mention to john that the Devendra Banhart concert would have greatly benefited from some bright-eyed, fresh-faced, idealistic, spinning, whirling hippy-dancers.

That is all.

zxpost kenan otm.

― giboyeux (skowly), Wednesday, 9 November 2005 22:41 (twenty years ago)

I think it's hard to go to college and not end up with a few of those friends. And there's nothing wrong with the banjo, just ask Steve Martin!

― n/a (Nick A.), Wednesday, 9 November 2005 22:43 (twenty years ago)

Banjos make everything look a little brighter, I really do love when that wonderful jangly-ness pops in for the chorus and a cup of tea.

― Laurel (Laurel), Wednesday, 9 November 2005 22:44 (twenty years ago)

I love string cheese! Wait, is that a band?

― Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Wednesday, 9 November 2005 22:52 (twenty years ago)

I was never a hippy, nor associated with them, even in college! Of course I was horrible depressed and would sleep for 16 hours a day in my dorm room, but there were NO HIPPIES IN MY DREAMS.

― Jeff-PTTL (Jeff), Wednesday, 9 November 2005 23:01 (twenty years ago)

I like banjos! My friend plays one (obv). We were in a bluegrass band together! "The Kentucky Waterfall."

That was fun.

― giboyeux (skowly), Wednesday, 9 November 2005 23:03 (twenty years ago)

I had a hippie roommate! He was tall, hairy, Jewish, played guitar, listened to reggae, wrote poetry, worked at Whole Foods, sold weed, and did Tai Chi in the living room. Nice guy but not one clean. He lives in/near Chicago actually, I'd like to get back in touch.

― Jordan (Jordan), Wednesday, 9 November 2005 23:04 (twenty years ago)

http://www.2bhifi.com/kiki/SYGC/sygc5.jpg

― jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 9 November 2005 23:07 (twenty years ago)

He was ~~tall,~~ hairy, ~~Jewish,~~ ~~played~~ liked guitar, listened to reggae, wrote poetry, ~~worked~~ shopped at Whole Foods, sold weed, and did ~~Tai Chi~~ yoga in the living room.

There we go.

― giboyeux (skowly), Wednesday, 9 November 2005 23:14 (twenty years ago)

Ha.

― Jordan (Jordan), Wednesday, 9 November 2005 23:14 (twenty years ago)

Jordan that describes about 1/3 of the men I went to college with. Also, add "Pottery class". We even had a drum circle concert group who had classes on drum making. I did not date any of these people.

― jocelyn (Jocelyn), Thursday, 10 November 2005 13:28 (twenty years ago)

Good morning! There were some of those people when I was in college, but I wasn't really friends with any of them. A few of my friends are sort of hippies-by-nature, but not in practice. Certainly no drum circles. Geez.

Jocelyn, have you heard Josephine Foster yet? I found out last night that she has tons of stuff on emusic, if you're signed up for that. If you're not signed up, do it! You get 50 free songs. Or 40. A lot.

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Thursday, 10 November 2005 13:34 (twenty years ago)

Hey, on the way to work this morning I came across the 'nasta review in the new UR Chic. -- "One of the most vibrant pop sounds to emerge from Chicago in years" -- nice!!

― Eazy (Eazy), Thursday, 10 November 2005 14:25 (twenty years ago)

Vibrant, even! Congrats!

― Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Thursday, 10 November 2005 14:28 (twenty years ago)

MOST vibrant! Woo!

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Thursday, 10 November 2005 14:29 (twenty years ago)

Vibrant thing, you Vibrant thing! Whoo!
Way to go, Nasta!

Yesterday I was AMAZINGLY grumpy by the time I left work. We were supposed to go work out, but instead went straight home where I indulged in dinner, a fire in the wood stove, Star Wars III, and Halloween candy. Then I went to bed at 9:30.

― Prancing Animals (coco), Thursday, 10 November 2005 14:45 (twenty years ago)

What's everyone doing for NEW YEARS EVE? I think someone should have a party.

― Prancing Animals (coco), Thursday, 10 November 2005 14:48 (twenty years ago)

I think the odds are good that someone will. But it ain't me, babe.

― Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Thursday, 10 November 2005 14:52 (twenty years ago)

No, no, no it ain't me either. I'm not one for having parties unless they're all girls and involve pizza and pillows or falafel and models.

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Thursday, 10 November 2005 14:53 (twenty years ago)

I love how Amanda knows every song lyric I reference.

― Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Thursday, 10 November 2005 14:54 (twenty years ago)

I'm taking NYE off.

― Jeff-PTTL (Jeff), Thursday, 10 November 2005 14:56 (twenty years ago)

The Leadway was a good place for New Years a few years back.

― Eazy (Eazy), Thursday, 10 November 2005 15:05 (twenty years ago)

I have to make it through Christmas before I start worrying about NYE. Just thinking about the holidays puts me in a bad mood; I've grown to recognize that this time of year isn't so good for me.

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Thursday, 10 November 2005 15:07 (twenty years ago)

I'm sure everyone already realizes this, but just in case you don't: Nu-Star Wars BLOWS.

― n/a (Nick A.), Thursday, 10 November 2005 15:20 (twenty years ago)

What brought on this shattering revelation?

― Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Thursday, 10 November 2005 15:22 (twenty years ago)

Yesterday I was AMAZINGLY grumpy by the time I left work. We were supposed to go work out, but instead went straight home where I indulged in dinner, a fire in the wood stove, Star Wars III, and Halloween candy. Then I went to bed at 9:30.

-- Prancing Animals (x77tigersxu...), November 10th, 2005 8:45 AM. (coco) (later)

Is that a dick thing to do? I'm not sure.

― n/a (Nick A.), Thursday, 10 November 2005 15:26 (twenty years ago)

Anyways, we watched most of REVENGE OF THE SITH last night. And it's pretty bad. Yeah.

― n/a (Nick A.), Thursday, 10 November 2005 15:27 (twenty years ago)

Would you guys consider me culturally bereft if I were to tell you that I have never seen a single Star Wars movie?

Because I haven't. Zero. None.

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Thursday, 10 November 2005 15:29 (twenty years ago)

That's impressive! I would try and stick to that in the future, just so you can brag about it.

― n/a (Nick A.), Thursday, 10 November 2005 15:30 (twenty years ago)

I only saw the first three and skipped the second three.

― Eazy (Eazy), Thursday, 10 November 2005 15:37 (twenty years ago)

we watched most of REVENGE OF THE SITH last night

You mean you turned it off before the NOOOOOOOOOOOOO! scene? That's the worst/best thing in it!

― Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Thursday, 10 November 2005 15:38 (twenty years ago)

I was falling asleep, but I do plan to watch the rest of it tonight.

It can't be any better than the FREEEEEEEDDDDDDDOOOOOMMMMMM!!!!!! scene, can it?

― Prancing Animals (coco), Thursday, 10 November 2005 15:44 (twenty years ago)

Because I haven't. Zero. None.

I consider you awesome.

You might be interested in this piece I wrote in college.

― jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 10 November 2005 15:48 (twenty years ago)

I'm glad we got a good review in UR, even if I winced at the John Linnell and Freddie Mercury comparisons.

― jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 10 November 2005 15:49 (twenty years ago)

I would be interested to know how you would respond to the original three SW movies, Amanda. I have no perspective on them since I watched them a million times as a kid (and if I hadn't, I wouldn't have gotten the best line in last night's Lost episode!).

― Jordan (Jordan), Thursday, 10 November 2005 15:54 (twenty years ago)

Freddie Mercury RULEZ though!

No LOST spoilers on this thread please!

― n/a (Nick A.), Thursday, 10 November 2005 15:55 (twenty years ago)

I'm planning to go to Leadway for NYE, as has been the tradition for the last few years. I'm probably going to DJ, by which I mean make mix CDs to play and encourage dancing, even though the sound there isn't really optimal for it.

(xpost) I know Freddie Mercury rules -- I just don't want Queen to be our frame of reference...

― jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 10 November 2005 15:57 (twenty years ago)

Jaymc, I think you guys have a great Broadway musical/rock opera in you.

― Jordan (Jordan), Thursday, 10 November 2005 16:00 (twenty years ago)

Well, I'd be fine with that, actually. If we told Megan that we were doing something a little bit more Hedwig-ish, I wonder if she'd be more inclined to stay in the band throughout grad school.

― jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 10 November 2005 16:03 (twenty years ago)

The point of the line, Peter says, is that we all get to feel like big assholes together.
Hehe. I guess I can't really get around the fact that it's a movie. A money-making venture. People pretending to be "stormtroopers" and "wookies." That said, I enjoyed the LOTR movies a lot and have no problem with "hobbits" and "wizards." There's something about outer space that strikes me as ridiculous though.

(As if hobbits and elves aren't ridiculous? I realize that this makes no logical sense.)

BRING ON THE ROCK OPERA!

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Thursday, 10 November 2005 16:05 (twenty years ago)

Bling On: The Rap Opera.

― Eazy (Eazy), Thursday, 10 November 2005 16:08 (twenty years ago)

Don't you mean a HIP-HOPERA, Eric?

http://www.moremoviesdirect.com/images/covers/done/79404355602.JPG

― Jordan (Jordan), Thursday, 10 November 2005 16:12 (twenty years ago)

That said, I enjoyed the LOTR movies a lot and have no problem with "hobbits" and "wizards." There's something about outer space that strikes me as ridiculous though.

Oh, see, I think both of them are pretty boring. Not ridiculous, mind you; they just don't appeal to me. I saw Episode I and had no desire to see the two subsequent ones. Same thing with Lord of the Ring: Fellowship put me off ever wanting to see Two Towers or Return of the King.

― jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 10 November 2005 16:13 (twenty years ago)

I'd like to see that, Jordan!

A few years ago I was working with an Eastern European guy who told me he was going to dinner at Rhapsody, but the way he said it, it sounded like he was going to dinner at Rap City - which could be a Hard Rock Cafe type establishment but for hip-hop.

― Eazy (Eazy), Thursday, 10 November 2005 16:18 (twenty years ago)

Buhhhh... $4 martinis almost killed me.

― Df'nM (OutDatWay), Thursday, 10 November 2005 16:19 (twenty years ago)

That sounds like a hold steady lyric.

― Jeff-PTTL (Jeff), Thursday, 10 November 2005 16:26 (twenty years ago)

Man they would have slayed the Blue Line Club Car or whatever that bar was called.

― Df'nM (OutDatWay), Thursday, 10 November 2005 16:27 (twenty years ago)

What's that Hold Steady song about some guy named Martini? Or Tequila?

― jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 10 November 2005 16:31 (twenty years ago)

I bet Rap City's food would be better than the crap they try to pass off as food at the Hard Rock (did I ever tell you about my veggie fajita which consisted of a microwaved oriental veggie mix with WATER CHESTNUTS IN IT?? dumped on top of a yuck fajita?).

― Prancing Animals (coco), Thursday, 10 November 2005 16:40 (twenty years ago)

All I can think of is Nightclub Dwight, and that's the wrong band. My brain is not working this morning.

Hanging out with art students again... man, the 9-to-5 has made me weak.

xpost

― Df'nM (OutDatWay), Thursday, 10 November 2005 16:41 (twenty years ago)

Dan, we should hang out soon...

― jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 10 November 2005 16:43 (twenty years ago)

I'm trying to decide whether I should revive the "jaymc is in a band" thread to mention that the record has come out...

― jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 10 November 2005 16:44 (twenty years ago)

I'd say do it in a week.

― Eazy (Eazy), Thursday, 10 November 2005 16:46 (twenty years ago)

It can't be any better than the FREEEEEEEDDDDDDDOOOOOMMMMMM!!!!!! scene, can it?

WRONG.

The "NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO" from SWIII is breath-taking. It's like someone took everything that was so mind-breakingly awesome about Battlefield Earth and condensed it into one word.

I learned a new word today: "sinecure." I have one! Or am one. Or whatever.

― giboyeux (skowly), Thursday, 10 November 2005 16:47 (twenty years ago)

The new D1gdown record is being mastered on Monday. I'm excited even though I am already totally over this record and itching to start on the next one.

― Jordan (Jordan), Thursday, 10 November 2005 16:49 (twenty years ago)

I just had a funny memory. When I was about 6 or so I asked my mom what my dog's balls were for and what they were called. She told me that they were called a "schroeder" and that they were for balance.

hahahahhahaha

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Thursday, 10 November 2005 16:50 (twenty years ago)

TS:"NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO"vs."HEEEEEEEEKKKKKKKTOOOOOOORRRRRRRRR"

― jocelyn (Jocelyn), Thursday, 10 November 2005 16:52 (twenty years ago)

jaymc (and everyone else) - Yes, we should. I've become far too anti-social of late.

Jas0n and N0elle were there, too. Apparently she's having an opening this weekend (with party to follow?) I'm not sure, I was drunk.

― Df'nM (OutDatWay), Thursday, 10 November 2005 17:00 (twenty years ago)

I'm gonna be pretty busy with moving this weekend, but I'll e-mail him just in case...

― jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 10 November 2005 17:01 (twenty years ago)

It's too bad you remembered this too late for your mom to use it in her political campaign. I'm not sure how she would use it, but if she could have found a way, I'm sure it would have been of great benefit.

― n/a (Nick A.), Thursday, 10 November 2005 17:05 (twenty years ago)

small world. i didn't know you knew jas0n & n0elle...

― kelsey (kelstarry), Thursday, 10 November 2005 17:06 (twenty years ago)

Yeah, I met them through my friend 3rica who goes to the SAIC.

― Df'nM (OutDatWay), Thursday, 10 November 2005 17:08 (twenty years ago)

I don't know why I googleproof common first names. Hungover paranoia?

― Df'nM (OutDatWay), Thursday, 10 November 2005 17:08 (twenty years ago)

Hungarian perestroika?

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Thursday, 10 November 2005 17:11 (twenty years ago)

Amanda, it's funny that you mention that. I had a dream last night about cutting off a dog's balls. (In the dream, it was done by making an incision under your own tongue. I'm still not sure how this worked, but it was near a parking garage where there were also lots of full-sized robots walking around that looked like the AOL "buddy" icon.)

(Earlier in the dream, I was in a mall and staring at this white-haired guy who had gone into a bookstore. He caught me staring and said, "Do you know who I am?" I didn't. He pointed to his biography, which was right in front of me. It was noted football coach Bill Irwin. I apologized and said I didn't really follow football. When I woke up this morning, I realized that there was no Bill Irwin, and I had probably been conflating Bill Walsh and Bill Parcells.)

(At some other point, Jessica H0pper was giving a presentation somewhere and was using a song in the background. It sounded really familiar and I was asking whomever I was with what it was. Two girls behind me heard me talking, and between the three of us we figured out it was an instrumental version of a Death Cab song, but we couldn't remember which. We started naming Death Cab albums. Finally, I said, "Oh, it's 'Song for Kelly Huckaby' from the Forbidden Love EP!" The girls didn't seem to know as much about Death Cab as I did. [This morning, I realized that I meant "Photobooth," from the same album.])

(After the presentation was over, I went up to H0pper and said 'Was that a Death Cab song?' She narrowed her eyes and said "God, everyone is asking me that. Even my grandma was like, 'Was that a Death Cab song?'" Some tall, sculpted, tattooed guy sidled up to us. She half-heartedly introduced us, although she didn't mention my name, so I wasn't sure if she remembered meeting me months ago or not. I had a feeling it was her boyfriend. I think maybe Eric was there, too.)

― jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 10 November 2005 17:14 (twenty years ago)

Umm. Yeah.

― jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 10 November 2005 17:47 (twenty years ago)

I have a shameful hippy past that involves actual touring and selling of handcrafts and grilled cheese sandwiches, among other things, for a living. I am still fond of Phish's music through Picture of Nectar, but cannot stand much of anything after that. They just got really cheesey. I like a handful of Dead songs, and I think we have Europe '72, but I don't consider myself a fan. However, most modern jam bands can suck one, in my opinion.

I agree that drum circles can be fun, depending on the participants.

― pullapartgirl (pullapartgirl), Thursday, 10 November 2005 17:49 (twenty years ago)

I've been frantically searching for this Body Count "Thread Killa" photoshop I've seen before, but to no avail.

― Df'nM (OutDatWay), Thursday, 10 November 2005 17:49 (twenty years ago)

My shameful hippy past is limited to seeing Phish (for free) one time. And smoking a lot of weed. But rappers do that too, and I don't think I'm one of them either.

― Df'nM (OutDatWay), Thursday, 10 November 2005 17:51 (twenty years ago)

Oh, I even worked on dreadlocks for about six months, but had a friend cut them out right before I went home for Easter. I couldn't face my grandparens with a headful of knotty hair, so I faced them looking like an angry baboon had cut my hair with garden shears. (See: earlier conversation on how to impress your parents later in life by doing normal, generally unimpressive things such as getting married and having a job.)

I would like to continue to believe that you are a rapper. Dan M.

― pullapartgirl (pullapartgirl), Thursday, 10 November 2005 17:52 (twenty years ago)

I'm all for drum circles.

Bill Irwin:
/http://www.csun.edu/theatre/billirwin2.jpg

― Eazy (Eazy), Thursday, 10 November 2005 17:53 (twenty years ago)

That's not him.

― jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 10 November 2005 17:54 (twenty years ago)

I'm kind of in love with names that come to you in dreams. I've mentioned this before, but in a dream once I was convinced that the author of the Madeleine books was named Henri Delacourt.

― jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 10 November 2005 17:55 (twenty years ago)

Bill Irwin looks kind of like Henry Rollins and Buster Keaton rolled together.

There's nothing I love more than dreams with ficticious-but-plausible books and movies. I've seen some great dustjackets in my dreams - mostly recently a collection of Cormac McCarthy short stories.

― Eazy (Eazy), Thursday, 10 November 2005 17:59 (twenty years ago)

Did I tell you guys the story of Magic the Rabbit? He was a little bunny I adopted from the humane society in DE where I used to volunteer and he was such a bad bunny. He bit and pooped everywhere and chewed things he wasn't supposed to chew, and was mean to my other bunny Lucy. One night I dreamed that I was carrying him around in my arms, asking him, "Magic, why are you such a bad bunny? I don't understand, Magic."

And he looked up at me and said, "My name is not 'Magic.' My name is TIM. I don't understand why you insist on calling me Magic when my name is clearly Tim."

And so I called him Tim, and he continued to be a mean little furry ball.

― pullapartgirl (pullapartgirl), Thursday, 10 November 2005 18:00 (twenty years ago)

I could only hope to be an MC. Unfortunately I'm about as funky as freshly cut grass.

― Df'nM (OutDatWay), Thursday, 10 November 2005 18:01 (twenty years ago)

I once dreamed that my friend Ric and I wrote a grammy winning hit song. The dream involved us going on stage to accept the award, and the song was playing, and it was really good! But I couldn't remember it when I woke up.

― pullapartgirl (pullapartgirl), Thursday, 10 November 2005 18:01 (twenty years ago)

The deli guys talked me into a reuben today. I was a little skeptical because I'm not a huge sauerkraut fun, but it was REALLY good.

― Jordan (Jordan), Thursday, 10 November 2005 18:11 (twenty years ago)

I like the Magic/Tim story. I like thinking that there is a certain authority or inevitability with dreams. I would've started calling the rabbit Tim, too.

― jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 10 November 2005 18:13 (twenty years ago)

Magic was the name he came with, and it was pretty dumb, so calling him Tim was an easy decision.

― pullapartgirl (pullapartgirl), Thursday, 10 November 2005 18:16 (twenty years ago)

I love it when you dream of a song! I mean, a song that doesn't exist. It's always THE BEST SONG YOU'RE EVER HEARD.

(I would tell you about what I deamed about last night, but there was way too much sex in it. And blood. There was also blood. You don't want to know.)

― Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Thursday, 10 November 2005 18:17 (twenty years ago)

I want to dance, I want to sing
I want to bust up everything
And make some love
I can feel it in the air
Feel it up above
Feel the tension everywhere
There's too much blood!

― Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Thursday, 10 November 2005 18:19 (twenty years ago)

Hey Jenny, are you gonna be on campus next Tuesday? I'm going to that Bob Pollard reading to see if I can ask some embarrassing-but-urgent phonological questions during the signing. Maybe we can sit together, you know, if you want. You can hear me stutter. It'll be a gas.

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Thursday, 10 November 2005 18:20 (twenty years ago)

Also: Jeff too!

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Thursday, 10 November 2005 18:21 (twenty years ago)

I've decided I can't miss class. I'll be there in spirit though, and in the building.

― Jeff-PTTL (Jeff), Thursday, 10 November 2005 18:26 (twenty years ago)

What time does it start? I have class, too, but I'll be free until 5:50. Unfortunately, my class getting unREASONably hard coincides with this reading, which I had intended to go to, class be damned.

― pullapartgirl (pullapartgirl), Thursday, 10 November 2005 18:46 (twenty years ago)

I never have interesting dreams. Or if I do, I forget them.

― n/a (Nick A.), Thursday, 10 November 2005 18:46 (twenty years ago)

Me either. I usually end up remembering one iconic or weird scene, if anything at all. But they're few and far between.

Dreeeeamer. You're nothing but a dreeeeeeamer. something something something OH NO

― Df'nM (OutDatWay), Thursday, 10 November 2005 18:48 (twenty years ago)

I have interesting dreams a lot but usually don't bother to tell people about them. Sometimes I do. For a while I recorded Dan's dreams right when he got up and then we had MANY laffs listening to the recordings later.

The reading starts at 5, I think. I will report back in full if you guys can't make it.

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Thursday, 10 November 2005 18:49 (twenty years ago)

I don't know what it is, but I'm getting through my hangover and I kind of want to go out again tonight.

― Df'nM (OutDatWay), Thursday, 10 November 2005 18:58 (twenty years ago)

My most frequent dreams lately have been the anxious kind, but more specific than usual. I'm always trying to save someone or something, but I'm unable to.

― Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Thursday, 10 November 2005 19:00 (twenty years ago)

Don't be a hero, Dan.

― Jordan (Jordan), Thursday, 10 November 2005 19:01 (twenty years ago)

Dan! That makes me want to put off packing... I can do the rest tomorrow, right?

― jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 10 November 2005 19:03 (twenty years ago)

Far be it from me to tell someone how or when to pack.

― Df'nM (OutDatWay), Thursday, 10 November 2005 19:14 (twenty years ago)

What time is the moving party Saturday, John?

― Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Thursday, 10 November 2005 19:18 (twenty years ago)

I'm picking up the U-Haul at 10 am, so probably you can come over any time after that. 10:30-ish, probably.

― jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 10 November 2005 19:19 (twenty years ago)

Yeah, I forgot to reply to your email. I have to work from 8pm to 1am, so I don't really want to move/drink during the day and then have to go to work and move stuff there all night.

― Jeff-PTTL (Jeff), Thursday, 10 November 2005 19:28 (twenty years ago)

What job is that, Jeff? I thought you had a nice office job these days. Do you have another one too?

I had an AWESOME sandwhich for lunch - thick multigrain bread, spicy mustard, pepperjack cheese, and avocado. MIAM!

― Prancing Animals (coco), Thursday, 10 November 2005 19:37 (twenty years ago)

I had indian buffet.

― kelsey (kelstarry), Thursday, 10 November 2005 19:41 (twenty years ago)

Same job, we're moving offices, so I have to work this weekend, and also the 24th through the 27th.

― Jeff-PTTL (Jeff), Thursday, 10 November 2005 19:42 (twenty years ago)

That's fine, Jeff. You are excused. ;-)

― jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 10 November 2005 19:43 (twenty years ago)

I had noodle bowl (tofu, bamboo, pea pods, soba) but they put too much spicy red pepper flakes in it.

― jocelyn (Jocelyn), Thursday, 10 November 2005 19:46 (twenty years ago)

I had an awesome sandwich for lunch, too. An italian beef from Mr. Beef. Apparently this place has gotten a lot of celebrity plugs. Taste the legend! And yes, it really is that good. Simply perfect italian beef.

― Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Thursday, 10 November 2005 19:54 (twenty years ago)

I have been craving Indian buffet lately, but Maddie works 20 min. away now and I don't feel that I can go there alone for some reason (which is weird, because I'm fine eating alone at pretty much every other place in the city).

― Jordan (Jordan), Thursday, 10 November 2005 19:55 (twenty years ago)

I don't eat alone at the Indian buffet either. But I think this is because (and I'm not trying to be arrogant here) I've had my fair share of Indian men who just won't leave me alone, even when I turn them down politely. I am not trying to verge into the realm of racism, but it gets old after a while.

― jocelyn (Jocelyn), Thursday, 10 November 2005 20:02 (twenty years ago)

All right, I think I'm going to Quenchers tonight. Corner of Fullerton/Western, probably like 7ish? Anyone who shows up from this thread gets a beer on me.

― Df'nM (OutDatWay), Thursday, 10 November 2005 20:16 (twenty years ago)

Er, or maybe a little later on. I don't fucking know.

― Df'nM (OutDatWay), Thursday, 10 November 2005 20:27 (twenty years ago)

Sorry dude! I have class tonight and then I'm going home and maybe making a pizza.

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Thursday, 10 November 2005 20:28 (twenty years ago)

My sweet lil' bike has a rear flat. I have a general idea on how to remedy the situation, but I'm worried about taking the entire rear wheel off.

― kelsey (kelstarry), Thursday, 10 November 2005 20:29 (twenty years ago)

I used to go to Mr. Beef when I worked near there. I like the guys behind the counter; I like sitting at a long picnic table with my breatheren, reading the Sun-Times that management provides while surrounded by posters of Al Pacino films. Salut, Mr. Beef.

Today I had a very tasty beef taryaki (sp) wrap with the violin player for 'nasta, who has a new collection of very sharp business suits.

― Eazy (Eazy), Thursday, 10 November 2005 20:30 (twenty years ago)

Mmmmm, makin' pizza.

I was going to make GYROS tonight, but the deli was out of the meat so I have to come up with something else.

― Jordan (Jordan), Thursday, 10 November 2005 20:31 (twenty years ago)

My sweet lil' bike has a rear flat. I have a general idea on how to remedy the situation, but I'm worried about taking the entire rear wheel off.

Don't worry! Do you have a wrench?

― giboyeux (skowly), Thursday, 10 November 2005 20:32 (twenty years ago)

Did you guys know that the Whizzyis sold right here in Chicago?

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Thursday, 10 November 2005 20:32 (twenty years ago)

Teriyaki.

Oh, 7:00 was going to be perfect for me, Dan...

― jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 10 November 2005 20:32 (twenty years ago)

Shit! Sorry. I just figured 7 seemed kinda early. I'll still head over around then.

― Df'nM (OutDatWay), Thursday, 10 November 2005 20:36 (twenty years ago)

Hey, what's the name of the place in Chicago that I ordered my earplugs from?

― Jordan (Jordan), Thursday, 10 November 2005 20:39 (twenty years ago)

i have a wrench & a tire lever. I know I'll probably be fine, but this shit is not the part of bicycling i like best.

(i've never changed a bike tire, but i'm fearless when faced with auto flats)

― kelsey (kelstarry), Thursday, 10 November 2005 20:40 (twenty years ago)

Oh, I remember! I really like them and I want to get a set for Maddie and an extra pair for me.

― Jordan (Jordan), Thursday, 10 November 2005 20:43 (twenty years ago)

Amanda, a friend of mine wanted to manufacture those things only he wanted to call his the "wenis."

wizzy is better, i think.

― kelsey (kelstarry), Thursday, 10 November 2005 20:44 (twenty years ago)

I have a feeling I may be the only one joining you. The only reason why 7 sounded good was that I could come straight from work, and just take the Blue Line up. (I usually work until after 6.)

How might I recognize you?

― jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 10 November 2005 20:44 (twenty years ago)

i mean whizzy.

― kelsey (kelstarry), Thursday, 10 November 2005 20:44 (twenty years ago)

(i've never changed a bike tire, but i'm fearless when faced with auto flats)

Opposite here.

Biggest issue: getting the chain tension right when you put the wheel back on.

― giboyeux (skowly), Thursday, 10 November 2005 20:46 (twenty years ago)

ok guys -- see you tomorrow! it's time to find out how badly i did on my midterm. (eeek!)

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Thursday, 10 November 2005 20:46 (twenty years ago)

Um... Glasses, striped shirt and jeans? I'm pretty usual-looking.

― Df'nM (OutDatWay), Thursday, 10 November 2005 20:47 (twenty years ago)

I"M DOWN WITH QUENCHERS. I have no papers to write tonight, that I can remember at least. Jenny, what are you doing? I need a drink.

― Jeff-PTTL (Jeff), Thursday, 10 November 2005 20:54 (twenty years ago)

I've grown my beard out again... for a girl.

― jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 10 November 2005 20:55 (twenty years ago)

That's a good enough reason to grow a beard. I've done similar recently.

3rica (my friend from SAIC who I've referenced before) may come too, as may my hermit housemate, if he can be dragged away from this stupid, yet addictingly fun guitar game: http://www.guitarherogame.com.

― Df'nM (OutDatWay), Thursday, 10 November 2005 20:58 (twenty years ago)

i feel like doing a lot of bad things. smoking, eating fried food, drinking a lot of red wine.

― kelsey (kelstarry), Thursday, 10 November 2005 21:02 (twenty years ago)

All those things can be done at Quenchers!

― Df'nM (OutDatWay), Thursday, 10 November 2005 21:02 (twenty years ago)

I'm just saying is all...

― Df'nM (OutDatWay), Thursday, 10 November 2005 21:03 (twenty years ago)

Yeah, you should come, Kels!

― jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 10 November 2005 21:04 (twenty years ago)

John, can you walk from the western station to there? Well, I know you can, but I don't want to walk a long way, because you know. CTA says 5 minutes via bus.

― Jeff-PTTL (Jeff), Thursday, 10 November 2005 21:04 (twenty years ago)

Also, do they take cards there, because i'm waiting for my replacement debit card to come in...

― Jeff-PTTL (Jeff), Thursday, 10 November 2005 21:04 (twenty years ago)

i'm "supposed" to go to the gym tonight since i didn't lift this morning.

blah blah blah

― kelsey (kelstarry), Thursday, 10 November 2005 21:06 (twenty years ago)

It's about 6-7 blocks or so from Western. I dunno about cards. I would guess... probably.

― Df'nM (OutDatWay), Thursday, 10 November 2005 21:06 (twenty years ago)

6-7 blocks?? I thought the Western stop was at Armitage. Armitage (2000) to Fullerton (2400) = 4 blocks. Half a mile. Easy.

― jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 10 November 2005 21:07 (twenty years ago)

DUDES
I am going to try and convince Sarah that we should go to QUENCHERS with you, at least for a little while. We are going to the gym first, we should be able to get to the bar by 7:00, no problem. Unless Sarah doesn't want to go.
But if she doesn't want to go, maybe I'll come anyways and it can be a DUDES NIGHT. Unless Jenny wants to come. Which is cool too.

― n/a (Nick A.), Thursday, 10 November 2005 21:08 (twenty years ago)

DUDE

Righteous!

― Df'nM (OutDatWay), Thursday, 10 November 2005 21:09 (twenty years ago)

Thursday nights are the new friday nights.

― Jeff-PTTL (Jeff), Thursday, 10 November 2005 21:09 (twenty years ago)

Wow, I thought I was going to be the lone gun here. Sweet.

― jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 10 November 2005 21:10 (twenty years ago)

thursday is the new friday for me b/c I got PAID today!

― kelsey (kelstarry), Thursday, 10 November 2005 21:10 (twenty years ago)

Work on Fridays is always eeeeassssyyyy, so I don't mind being drowsy tomorrow. And we have no plans for tomorrow anyways, except possibly recording but Ben hasn't gotten back to me about that yet.

― n/a (Nick A.), Thursday, 10 November 2005 21:12 (twenty years ago)

Sounds good to me, but wait... Does this mean I have to choose between wearing gym clothes or changing back into my secretary clothes to go to a bar??

― Prancing Animals (coco), Thursday, 10 November 2005 21:14 (twenty years ago)

Quenchers is near my house, sort of.

― giboyeux (skowly), Thursday, 10 November 2005 21:15 (twenty years ago)

I'm going to grow my beard again despite a girl. For WINTER.

(actually, she's pretty tolerant of my shifting facial hair)

― Jordan (Jordan), Thursday, 10 November 2005 21:15 (twenty years ago)

Sarah: why not BOTH?

― jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 10 November 2005 21:15 (twenty years ago)

No, Sarah, we will go home and change and eat dinner before we go to the bar.

giboyeux, you either live or work near EVERYTHING, don't you?

― n/a (Nick A.), Thursday, 10 November 2005 21:16 (twenty years ago)

http://cns.physics.gatech.edu/people/figs/office-night.jpg

― Eazy (Eazy), Thursday, 10 November 2005 21:17 (twenty years ago)

0.5 mi (about 52 secs) by car.

― Jeff-PTTL (Jeff), Thursday, 10 November 2005 21:18 (twenty years ago)

I can't look at art anymore without thinking of how it would work as an album cover.

― n/a (Nick A.), Thursday, 10 November 2005 21:18 (twenty years ago)

(secretary clothes)

― Eazy (Eazy), Thursday, 10 November 2005 21:19 (twenty years ago)

The Fake Fictions: Secretary Clothes

xpost!

― Jordan (Jordan), Thursday, 10 November 2005 21:19 (twenty years ago)

It's true!

― giboyeux (skowly), Thursday, 10 November 2005 21:20 (twenty years ago)

That is a fiiiine woman.

― Df'nM (OutDatWay), Thursday, 10 November 2005 21:20 (twenty years ago)

That one's pretty good, too, in that it has the blank space on the wall to put the title.

― jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 10 November 2005 21:21 (twenty years ago)

RE: Quenchers - I have to hang out at the worker's center until 9 to help with a legal clinic. If, by some crazy convergence of factors, you are all still there and I'm not worn out by the tribulations of worker justice, I will go.

― pullapartgirl (pullapartgirl), Thursday, 10 November 2005 21:22 (twenty years ago)

As of right now, our most serious album name contender came from a suggestion on this thread.

― n/a (Nick A.), Thursday, 10 November 2005 21:24 (twenty years ago)

I'm sure I wouldn't stay till 9, since I have no cash to spend on drinks, and no way to retrieve any from the bank. So 1 or 2 tops for me.

― Jeff-PTTL (Jeff), Thursday, 10 November 2005 21:26 (twenty years ago)

I just called them, no cards.. so I'll have to count my change. Unless I can count on your guys (my pals) to somehow, somewhere come up with the money to buy me 2 drinks. YOU KNOW I'M GOOD FOR IT.

― Jeff-PTTL (Jeff), Thursday, 10 November 2005 21:29 (twenty years ago)

What kind of place doesn't take cards?

― Jordan (Jordan), Thursday, 10 November 2005 21:29 (twenty years ago)

Simon's doesn't either. But its a dive and doesn't do food or anything like Quenchers.

― Jeff-PTTL (Jeff), Thursday, 10 November 2005 21:30 (twenty years ago)

Just be a damn flirt, Jeff, and you'll be fine.

― Eazy (Eazy), Thursday, 10 November 2005 21:30 (twenty years ago)

I may stay home & change my fucking tire. And lift. If, after all that, y'all are still there, I'll probably come out.

― kelsey (kelstarry), Thursday, 10 November 2005 21:31 (twenty years ago)

Jeff, don't worry, I can spot you if need be.

― jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 10 November 2005 21:32 (twenty years ago)

Like with money. (I realized that was confusing after Kelsey talked about lifting.)

― jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 10 November 2005 21:32 (twenty years ago)

I think it would be hilarious if Jeff needed to be "spotted" in the lifting sense but at a bar. As though lifting a pint were too much after the 3rd set . . .

― kelsey (kelstarry), Thursday, 10 November 2005 21:35 (twenty years ago)

Changing your tire is fun! Make it a game!

I got a flat on the way to work yesterday and changed it during my lunch break. Tire-changing is a time when NOT having a track bike would be pretty nice.

― giboyeux (skowly), Thursday, 10 November 2005 21:36 (twenty years ago)

Jeff I can probably buy you one (1) drink.

― n/a (Nick A.), Thursday, 10 November 2005 21:36 (twenty years ago)

why is that? I HAVE A TRACK BIKE!!!! I'm honestly nervous about this endeavor. I'll probably get frustrated & show up trashed at Quenchers.

― kelsey (kelstarry), Thursday, 10 November 2005 21:39 (twenty years ago)

I'm in. See you at 7ish.

― Jeff-PTTL (Jeff), Thursday, 10 November 2005 21:41 (twenty years ago)

Just take it to a bike place, Kelsey!

That's what I would do. None of this "fun" stuff.

― Jordan (Jordan), Thursday, 10 November 2005 21:41 (twenty years ago)

Shit, it looks like I'm already buying at least 4 beers, what's another one?

― Df'nM (OutDatWay), Thursday, 10 November 2005 21:42 (twenty years ago)

I HAVE A TRACK BIKE!!!!

I know! We have the SAME KIND remember?!

― giboyeux (skowly), Thursday, 10 November 2005 21:44 (twenty years ago)

http://www.chicagobikeshops.info/bikeShopList.php

― Jordan (Jordan), Thursday, 10 November 2005 21:45 (twenty years ago)

but jordan! then i'd miss the glorious satisfaction of repairing things myself!

i'll quit talking about it, though. i may end up taking it in on saturday or sunday anyway . . . i need a new rear bike light.

xpost: i know! i didn't know if you knew! i wondered if you were saying so b/c of *your* bike or *our* bike!!

so who's all going tonight? i'm being freakish & should probably be sedated with ALCOHOL.

― kelsey (kelstarry), Thursday, 10 November 2005 21:46 (twenty years ago)

I will probably not go, since it sounds like by the time I get there, people will be leaving. I'm sad! I don't really care about the bar part, but I miss you guys.

Also, I saw Kelsey randomly on the street last night and now I have a Kesley jones.

― pullapartgirl (pullapartgirl), Thursday, 10 November 2005 21:50 (twenty years ago)

oh, and just to clarify, I'm not broke, I just lost my debit card on monday, and it will take 5 business days to get a new one. I never realized how much I relied on plastic

― Jeff-PTTL (Jeff), Thursday, 10 November 2005 21:50 (twenty years ago)

(1) You need a wrench to take off the wheels

(2) You need to get the chain tensioned properly when you put the wheel back on, or else the chain will go slack and you could SNAP it. Yikes!

― giboyeux (skowly), Thursday, 10 November 2005 21:52 (twenty years ago)

okay, now i'm freaked out about the chain. sweet jesus. i think that i'll just pay someone to teach me how to do it.

jenny . . . i have a jenny jones!!!! true sentiment, bad joke.

― kelsey (kelstarry), Thursday, 10 November 2005 21:55 (twenty years ago)

Gotta run some errands and stuff after work, so probably not...

― Eazy (Eazy), Thursday, 10 November 2005 21:58 (twenty years ago)

WARNING: Don't click on the v. similar-looking thread on New Answers.

― jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 10 November 2005 22:10 (twenty years ago)

Oh, it's THAT picture.

― Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Thursday, 10 November 2005 22:12 (twenty years ago)

HI DERE 2ND CITY

― Jdubz (ex machina), Thursday, 10 November 2005 22:13 (twenty years ago)

well, when you say that, of course I have to click on it.

it reminds me of the original willy wonka movie w/ the worm picture when they're in the boat.

― kelsey (kelstarry), Thursday, 10 November 2005 22:13 (twenty years ago)

http://www.63xc.com/willm/wheelset.htm

Hi Jon.

― giboyeux (skowly), Thursday, 10 November 2005 22:13 (twenty years ago)

Oh shit, that picture is too funny.

― pullapartgirl (pullapartgirl), Thursday, 10 November 2005 22:15 (twenty years ago)

I'm just trying to look out for people who work in offices...

― jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 10 November 2005 22:16 (twenty years ago)

link for kels, btw.

― giboyeux (skowly), Thursday, 10 November 2005 22:18 (twenty years ago)

I work in an office, but I was looking at Rachel Kramer Bussel's flickr page earlier today. It seems to be 75% cupcakes and 25% nudity.

― Jordan (Jordan), Thursday, 10 November 2005 22:19 (twenty years ago)

thank you! don't be surprised if i drive to quenchers with bike in tow & a handful of questions . . .

― kelsey (kelstarry), Thursday, 10 November 2005 22:20 (twenty years ago)

Johan - Of course! I would have been far less amused if I were at work or in class where someone could see over my shoulder to the GIANT COCK FEST happening on my screen. NSFW warnings are always good, I think.

― pullapartgirl (pullapartgirl), Thursday, 10 November 2005 22:20 (twenty years ago)

Yeeks! There's no guarantee I'll be making it tonight (coy!), but I'd be happy to help!

― giboyeux (skowly), Thursday, 10 November 2005 22:24 (twenty years ago)

you tease!

― kelsey (kelstarry), Thursday, 10 November 2005 22:26 (twenty years ago)

(no guarantee for me, either)

― kelsey (kelstarry), Thursday, 10 November 2005 22:28 (twenty years ago)

Y'all are some wishy-washy motherfuckers.

― jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 10 November 2005 22:29 (twenty years ago)

http://www.rightwingnews.com/graphics/flipfloper.jpg

― giboyeux (skowly), Thursday, 10 November 2005 22:31 (twenty years ago)

That picture is so awesome.

― jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 10 November 2005 22:34 (twenty years ago)

I'm going to be there.

TO DRINK 29 TIMES, ONCE FOR EACH MAN ON THE EDMUND FITZGERALD

― Df'nM (OutDatWay), Thursday, 10 November 2005 22:34 (twenty years ago)

what kind of office do you work in?

― Jdubz (ex machina), Thursday, 10 November 2005 22:37 (twenty years ago)

A gay office!

― giboyeux (skowly), Thursday, 10 November 2005 22:41 (twenty years ago)

I work at Porn University!

― kelsey (kelstarry), Thursday, 10 November 2005 22:44 (twenty years ago)

Oh, yeah, it IS Edmund Fitzgerald Day. To commemorate this, I will drown myself in a tempest-tossed, icy fresh water lake, in a most mysterious way.

― Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Thursday, 10 November 2005 22:46 (twenty years ago)

I will memorialize your death in song.

― giboyeux (skowly), Thursday, 10 November 2005 22:50 (twenty years ago)

How odd. I announced to my office that it's Edmund Fitzgerald day, and as it turns out, the guy who used to sit at this very computer quit the job so he could work full time on 3-d modelling the ship.

http://www.3dfitz.com/

― Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Thursday, 10 November 2005 22:51 (twenty years ago)

WHY

― Jdubz (ex machina), Thursday, 10 November 2005 23:00 (twenty years ago)

I'm going to listen to a lot of Gordon Lightfoot. A LOT.

― pullapartgirl (pullapartgirl), Thursday, 10 November 2005 23:05 (twenty years ago)

There was a Gordon Lightfoot song in The Brown Bunny. I liked it.

― jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 10 November 2005 23:07 (twenty years ago)

WHY

Seriously.

"It's my life's ambition!"

― giboyeux (skowly), Thursday, 10 November 2005 23:17 (twenty years ago)

If you want to remember the fitz... Be sure to drink Edmund Fitzgerald porter, a fine dark brew from Great Lakes Brewery in Cleveland.

--Sam 3D Fitz.com

― Sam PH, Friday, 11 November 2005 00:55 (twenty years ago)

John's brother and I were at the same matinee of The Brown Bunny. He had his then-gal with him, and I - feeling like a dirty young man - was alone.

― Eazy (Eazy), Friday, 11 November 2005 01:17 (twenty years ago)

Speaking of going to movies alone, does anybody want to go see HARRY POTTER and the Whatever Whatever Whatever with me next weekend? I have a crush on Ron Weasely.

― pullapartgirl (pullapartgirl), Friday, 11 November 2005 02:32 (twenty years ago)

You guys got faced. You never know who's a lurker, do you?

― Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Friday, 11 November 2005 02:40 (twenty years ago)

Oh geez.

Dear Chicago, Another Confession: When I left the bar to meet people, I was meeting people from another interweb forum for another interweb forum date.

― giboyeux (skowly), Friday, 11 November 2005 07:48 (twenty years ago)

Good date? I mean, was it a date date, or just a group activity? Did it end in sex, is what I'm asking.

― Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Friday, 11 November 2005 13:48 (twenty years ago)

No, no sex. But, outside a liquor store at Pulaski and S 26th St., a large, inebriated Mexican fellow warned us that, if he whistled, he'd "have 100 Mexicans out here in no time and you don't want that."

He accused us of being minutemen!

Anyway, we left.

― giboyeux (skowly), Friday, 11 November 2005 13:54 (twenty years ago)

What was the picture on the other thread? I am curious. Please tell me it was the gay dinosaur gifs. I love those.

― jocelyn (Jocelyn), Friday, 11 November 2005 14:27 (twenty years ago)

No, it was the World Of Giant Cock gif.

― Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Friday, 11 November 2005 14:33 (twenty years ago)

Ooh, I just made AFFIXERS (when I should be working on my resignation letter).

― Eazy (Eazy), Friday, 11 November 2005 14:38 (twenty years ago)

WE MET THE DAN MARTIN

― n/a (Nick A.), Friday, 11 November 2005 14:44 (twenty years ago)

I would have loved to come out but I'M TOO OLD. Right, Nick? Right?

― pullapartgirl (pullapartgirl), Friday, 11 November 2005 14:46 (twenty years ago)

OMG You met The Dan Martin! Do tell.

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Friday, 11 November 2005 14:48 (twenty years ago)

I wish I could have come too, but you guys socialize a lot more than I'm able to socialize. I also had class. And we didn't get our tests back. The nerve of that lady!

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Friday, 11 November 2005 14:49 (twenty years ago)

By "class" I meant an educational class, not "I'm classy" class.

Class. What a concept. I need breakfast and coffee.

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Friday, 11 November 2005 14:49 (twenty years ago)

My tolerance has shot down to nearly zero. I feel worse today off 3 beers than I used to feel after 8.

― Jeff-PTTL (Jeff), Friday, 11 November 2005 14:52 (twenty years ago)

JENNY NOOOOOO! I don't really think you're OLD. I was just teasing Jeff because he was trying to make Dan feel OLD for being like one year older than me and Jeff and John. IT WAS A RHETORICAL MECHANISM!

― n/a (Nick A.), Friday, 11 November 2005 14:55 (twenty years ago)

Being a cheap drunk > being an alcholist

― Jordan (Jordan), Friday, 11 November 2005 14:55 (twenty years ago)

Were they bottled beers or draft? Isn't there something about draft beers that can make hangovers worse?

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Friday, 11 November 2005 14:56 (twenty years ago)

Does being an "alcholist" mean being that guy I knew who only drank gin & tonics made with Bombay Sapphire?

― jocelyn (Jocelyn), Friday, 11 November 2005 14:57 (twenty years ago)

But you guys ARE old.

― giboyeux (skowly), Friday, 11 November 2005 14:59 (twenty years ago)

Why I oughta...

― pullapartgirl (pullapartgirl), Friday, 11 November 2005 15:02 (twenty years ago)

YOU KIDS.

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Friday, 11 November 2005 15:02 (twenty years ago)

Ha.

― Jordan (Jordan), Friday, 11 November 2005 15:14 (twenty years ago)

Dirty lines in tap systems make for worse hangovers in my experience. It's probably safe to say the taps at Quenchers are "well used." I think the way I feel today is more due to lack of sleep than beers, though. Oh, and being and old man.

It was good to meet you guys.

― Df'nM (OutDatWay), Friday, 11 November 2005 15:18 (twenty years ago)

I feel pretty good, aside from being kinda dried out from having the heat on last night.

― n/a (Nick A.), Friday, 11 November 2005 15:22 (twenty years ago)

Good morning. I am CRAZY in the cabeza today. Nick can testify. I'm just really hyper and I forgot to bring my purse to work. Whoops.

― Prancing Animals (coco), Friday, 11 November 2005 15:23 (twenty years ago)

I couldn't sleep last night. I was really tired, but the second my head hit the pillow, I was wide awake and tossing and turning. Thinking about code. It's the new hot way to learn php in the middle of the night. Anyway, I finally gave up, put my clothes back on, walked over to Jessa's place, and watched TV until I fell asleep on the couch. I'm going to miss that when she gets back. Shhh. Don't tell her.

― Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Friday, 11 November 2005 15:24 (twenty years ago)

Kenan, I thought of you last night when I watching the first episode of the most recent Sopranos season, when Tony is watching 'The Prince of Tides', in a scene where Nick Nolte is obsessing over his lady therapist. I wish I could quote Nolte's lines verbatim, but they're very funny.

― Eazy (Eazy), Friday, 11 November 2005 15:36 (twenty years ago)

Oh, I'm not obsessing. She just looks like Julia, is all. Which is to say, quite lovely. :)

― Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Friday, 11 November 2005 15:42 (twenty years ago)

OMG Is there anything I can do to get out of this "sales training" I'm about to endure for the next two hours?

No way am I whapping inflatable enthusiasm wieners together to MAKE SOME NOISE.

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Friday, 11 November 2005 15:47 (twenty years ago)

Tell them you witnessed tragic wiener-whapping accident as a child, and it scarred you for life.

― Df'nM (OutDatWay), Friday, 11 November 2005 16:01 (twenty years ago)

Please tell me that your training really does involve inflatable weiners.

― jocelyn (Jocelyn), Friday, 11 November 2005 16:02 (twenty years ago)

Tell them you witnessed tragic wiener-whapping accident as a child, and it scarred you for life.

Then break down, hysterically weeping. "Daddy! Not again, daddy!"

― Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Friday, 11 November 2005 16:05 (twenty years ago)

Sorry. That was a bit dark.

― Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Friday, 11 November 2005 16:06 (twenty years ago)

Who wants to play LITERATI?

― n/a (Nick A.), Friday, 11 November 2005 16:15 (twenty years ago)

I am sending an email to 41,000 people but it doesn't really require much input from me.

― n/a (Nick A.), Friday, 11 November 2005 16:15 (twenty years ago)

How do I play?

― giboyeux (skowly), Friday, 11 November 2005 16:16 (twenty years ago)

I freelanced at Kraf1t Foods once, and there were little Oscar Meyer toys all over the place.

Hey, I just formally resigned from my job - done here December 9, and after that will be available for Quenchers outings and the like.

― Eazy (Eazy), Friday, 11 November 2005 16:16 (twenty years ago)

Guess what!! EVERYONE in the office is leaving except for me and one
other dude who is COOL and HANGS OUT. Which means: I CAN DO WHATEVER
I WANT ALL DAY.

I am totally going to work on apps instead of work!!! Or LITERATI! Punk rock!!!

Hey, have you guys ever been to the Skylark (Halsted and... S 22nd?)? It's a nice bar!

― giboyeux (skowly), Friday, 11 November 2005 16:18 (twenty years ago)

Congrats Eric.

Gib- you go to yahoo, then games, then down to word games, and then to literati. It doesn't work on everyone's computers.

― n/a (Nick A.), Friday, 11 November 2005 16:19 (twenty years ago)

Oh brother. Registration?! I hate registering for websites.

― giboyeux (skowly), Friday, 11 November 2005 16:24 (twenty years ago)

Alright I'm in. NOW WHAT?

― giboyeux (skowly), Friday, 11 November 2005 16:27 (twenty years ago)

Go to Social Lounge 12. I'll find you in there.

― n/a (Nick A.), Friday, 11 November 2005 16:34 (twenty years ago)

I'm "naamme."

― n/a (Nick A.), Friday, 11 November 2005 16:35 (twenty years ago)

It's taking a while to load...

― giboyeux (skowly), Friday, 11 November 2005 16:37 (twenty years ago)

Yep, I've been to Skylark! It's nice! My bandmate Megan lives right around there, so we had a late-afternoon beer one time.

― jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 11 November 2005 16:40 (twenty years ago)

I was happy to meet The D4n M4rtin last night as well. It was a total GUYS NIGHT OUT.

I was sufficiently drunk to become unnecessarily emotional later that night. And maybe this morning. But that has nothing to do with you guys.

― jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 11 November 2005 16:47 (twenty years ago)

I'm up for literati in a couple of minutes.

― Jordan (Jordan), Friday, 11 November 2005 16:48 (twenty years ago)

I was sufficiently drunk to make long distance phone calls and totally fuck up playing "Crossroads" on Guitar Heros.

― Df'nM (OutDatWay), Friday, 11 November 2005 16:48 (twenty years ago)

is everyone who knows brooke coming to her party on saturday?

― kelsey (kelstarry), Friday, 11 November 2005 16:56 (twenty years ago)

I have to work.:(((

― Jeff-PTTL (Jeff), Friday, 11 November 2005 16:57 (twenty years ago)

Are you guys in Literati? I'm getting that same error about the cached version. Oh well, I have work to do anyway.

― Jordan (Jordan), Friday, 11 November 2005 16:59 (twenty years ago)

I've got a baby shower Sat. night, Kels, but I may be part of the late-night brigade.

― Eazy (Eazy), Friday, 11 November 2005 17:00 (twenty years ago)

(My first baby shower ever - I didn't even know that guys were allowed into these things.)

― Eazy (Eazy), Friday, 11 November 2005 17:01 (twenty years ago)

Yeah, I didn't either!

― kelsey (kelstarry), Friday, 11 November 2005 17:07 (twenty years ago)

I am very happily working. I love the feeling of explaining things to people that they don't know or understand, and having them ACTUALLY LISTEN to you! Attentively! It's so good for the self-esteem.

― Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Friday, 11 November 2005 17:07 (twenty years ago)

Because of an editing error, an article on Wednesday about rules for children and parents in restaurants and other businesses misstated the site of an incident in which a woman was asked to stop breast-feeding in a store in Chicago. It was not the Women and Children First bookstore but another business in the neighborhood. The article also misstated the bookstore's policy for children who break rules for story time. Parents are asked to take them away from the reading area; the children are not ejected.

― jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 11 November 2005 17:08 (twenty years ago)

thank god!!

― kelsey (kelstarry), Friday, 11 November 2005 17:10 (twenty years ago)

We are successfully playing literati.

Sarah and I are going to Brooke's party. Brooke is cool.

― n/a (Nick A.), Friday, 11 November 2005 17:13 (twenty years ago)

I thought something was fishy about that article, because they reported that male employee of Women & Children First had asked a woman to stop breast-feeding in the store - that would take some balls.

― Eazy (Eazy), Friday, 11 November 2005 17:13 (twenty years ago)

(that "a" male employee)

― Eazy (Eazy), Friday, 11 November 2005 17:14 (twenty years ago)

i've never seen a male employee there.

― kelsey (kelstarry), Friday, 11 November 2005 17:18 (twenty years ago)

xpost I don't think WACF has any male employees.

― Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Friday, 11 November 2005 17:18 (twenty years ago)

right. that's basically what i meant.

― kelsey (kelstarry), Friday, 11 November 2005 17:26 (twenty years ago)

Next question: do they have any straight employees?

― Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Friday, 11 November 2005 17:36 (twenty years ago)

My favorite lesbian employee in Andersonville is the butch gray-haired lady who works the counter at Osco.

― jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 11 November 2005 17:38 (twenty years ago)

Hey John, you don't have Seth's phone no. do you? If you do, please email it to me, I seem to have misplaced it and we're trying to set up recording for tonight.

― n/a (Nick A.), Friday, 11 November 2005 17:52 (twenty years ago)

Why did I have to go to sales training again? I have no idea. I'm in sales. Things I did find out though:
* no wieners
* they don't know my name
* people who work in the "apartment industry" like to party

I think I'm going to Brooke's party for a while, probably early.

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Friday, 11 November 2005 17:53 (twenty years ago)

I'm NOT in sales -- that's what it's supposed to say.

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Friday, 11 November 2005 17:54 (twenty years ago)

NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT in sales.

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Friday, 11 November 2005 17:54 (twenty years ago)

I don't have it, Nick, but I'll see if I can get it from Matt.

― jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 11 November 2005 17:55 (twenty years ago)

Cool, I can't even email him because the fprecords server is down.

― n/a (Nick A.), Friday, 11 November 2005 17:57 (twenty years ago)

people who work in the "apartment industry" like to party

Take out "in the apartment industry" and you still have a true statement. I read some study once about how social drinkers went much farther in their careers than teetotalers.

― Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Friday, 11 November 2005 18:02 (twenty years ago)

Yeah -- they drink at all of their "networking" functions. They gave us a packet of suggested ways to get a sales pitch in if you're in all of these situations and 2/3 of them involve buying the person a drink/food/whatever. This is not my crowd.

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Friday, 11 November 2005 18:06 (twenty years ago)

I've heard that the real estate industry in general is a kind of extended frat-party. The day I spent temping at CB Richard Ellis convinced me that was true. It made me physically ill.

― Df'nM (OutDatWay), Friday, 11 November 2005 18:08 (twenty years ago)

xpost I'll buy them a drink, but not in order to get in a sales pitch! How icky.

― Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Friday, 11 November 2005 18:10 (twenty years ago)

I know! It's just gross. I'm not a teetotaler by any means, but I think I prefer to keep work and leisure separate.

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Friday, 11 November 2005 18:11 (twenty years ago)

Oh man, the deli is doing Philly cheesesteaks today. They're killing me.

― Jordan (Jordan), Friday, 11 November 2005 18:11 (twenty years ago)

Real estate agents, mortgage brokers, the whole lot of them: IDIOTS. Fucking useless wastes of skin that only stand between you and your buying something that you want and try to suck a little money off of it. Parasites. Bottom-feeders. And worse yet, they're all crazy. All of them. I have never met anyone even remotely related to real estate that wasn't profoundly fucked in the head. And deeply alcoholic.

― Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Friday, 11 November 2005 18:12 (twenty years ago)

nick just SCHOOLED me.

― giboyeux (skowly), Friday, 11 November 2005 18:12 (twenty years ago)

First, I would like to remind everyone that the Wal-Mart movie is NEXT Wednesday, Nov. 16, at 7 PM at Grace Place Community Center on Dearborn and Harrison.

Second, I would like to say that J4mes Th1ndw4 of J0bs w/ Just1c3 is going to lead the after-movie discussion, which is kind of the worker justice equivalent of getting Led Zepeling to play your prom. Assuming you graduated from high school in the mid-70s, which I did not. I am not that old. So I guess it would be more like if I got REM to play my prom. But anyway, you get the point.

― pullapartgirl (pullapartgirl), Friday, 11 November 2005 18:13 (twenty years ago)

xpost did he, now. Did he do a dance and say, "That's how itz done, biiiiatch!"?

― Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Friday, 11 November 2005 18:14 (twenty years ago)

zep * pling - v. int. - Rocking. see: zepple.

― Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Friday, 11 November 2005 18:16 (twenty years ago)

I wanted U2 to play my prom.

― Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Friday, 11 November 2005 18:16 (twenty years ago)

Eeee! Zepeling! I'm too excited to spell properly, I guess.

Also, I did a really smart thing today, which was to pick up vegetarian sandwich #12 from the Vietnamese cafe on the corner of B-way and Argyle and bring it to school with me for lunch, rather than eat more cafeteria soup. $2.95! And tasty as HECK! Except for the jalepeno pepper which nearly burned my jaw off.

― pullapartgirl (pullapartgirl), Friday, 11 November 2005 18:20 (twenty years ago)

I found some interesting articles just now by googling J.T., Jenny.

― Jordan (Jordan), Friday, 11 November 2005 18:21 (twenty years ago)

I've heard good things about those Vietnamese sandwich places. I've been itching to try some real bahn mi one of these days.

― Df'nM (OutDatWay), Friday, 11 November 2005 18:22 (twenty years ago)

I can't stop eating the soups long enough to get to the sandwiches. Also, do they put cilantro on those things?

― I do feel guilty for getting any perverse amusement out of it (Rock Hardy), Friday, 11 November 2005 18:24 (twenty years ago)

There is a lemon grass sausage sandwich there that I have my eye on, too. Vietnamese sandwiches are like the ultimate culinary statement of colonialism and assimilation. But they are so dang delicious.

xpost: He's a pretty incredible speaker, the kind of person that makes you spontaneous jump up and clap and say, "Yeah!"

Here is some more info about the screening.

― pullapartgirl (pullapartgirl), Friday, 11 November 2005 18:31 (twenty years ago)

Aye, there is cilantro on there. And onions and some vegetables I cannot identify.

This is the place! http://centerstage.net/restaurants/bale.html

― pullapartgirl (pullapartgirl), Friday, 11 November 2005 18:34 (twenty years ago)

That review says that the sandwiches are served on a "sub roll," which is one of the reasons they shouldn't let any asshole write restaurant reviews on Centerstage*. It's a baguette.

*For example, the review about Tokyo Marina. The middle of nowhere, slapped together, flavorlessness my ass.

― pullapartgirl (pullapartgirl), Friday, 11 November 2005 18:38 (twenty years ago)

Thanks for the link! I'm totally going this weekend.

― Df'nM (OutDatWay), Friday, 11 November 2005 18:38 (twenty years ago)

Jenny, I thought I would pass on the news that the Walmart movie is being screened here in little WL on Sunday at the Wesleyan Fellowship. I case you were wondering about other demographics and stuff. I am going, I think.

― jocelyn (Jocelyn), Friday, 11 November 2005 18:59 (twenty years ago)

Cool, Jocelyn! It's playing all over the place, which is really exciting to me. I like seeing people actually reacting to something, especially when they all agree with me. Heh.

I have the DVD at home and I kind of want to watch it, but then again, I kind of want to be suprised with the rest of the people on Wednesday.

― pullapartgirl (pullapartgirl), Friday, 11 November 2005 19:04 (twenty years ago)

Hello Chicago! Hey I'm wondering if any of you with vehicles can recommend a mechanic who does quality work at not-unreasonable prices. I have been taking my vehicle to j03z 3xp3r+ 4u+0 for the last few years and would like for once to not leave the shop in tears.

If any of you good people could be of help, I certainly would appreciate it. The email address is stupid but real.

― Sparkle Motion's Rising Force, Friday, 11 November 2005 19:06 (twenty years ago)

Wow, it looks like a lot of people are holding screenings in there homes. Maybe I'll go to one around here. Probably the one with pizza.

― Jordan (Jordan), Friday, 11 November 2005 19:07 (twenty years ago)

I don't really know of any "good" mechanics, but I go to Runge's Auto in Rogers Park. They seem pretty trustworthy. Comparatively speaking, I mean.

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Friday, 11 November 2005 19:10 (twenty years ago)

I would trust these guys' recommendations:

http://electrical.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=7361&highlight=mechanic&sid=223de509cf4a150869cdf5966134f460

― Eazy (Eazy), Friday, 11 November 2005 19:13 (twenty years ago)

Milkmaid-
Thanks. Have you been going to them long? Has their work held up for you? That's all I mean by "good" -- A mechanic who is able to comprehensively diagnose the problem and let you decide how far you want to go with it, and doesn't add on a bunch of f'd up charges.

― Sparkle Motion's Rising Force, Friday, 11 November 2005 19:20 (twenty years ago)

Yeah -- we've bought some tires from them and are about to go back for some more serious brake work. They never charged us too much and always gave us an option of "I can do this for $$ or I can do this for $$$$ - it's your choice." I'm not in love with the place or anything, but it has been better to me than other garages where I've been gouged for a new transmission, etc.

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Friday, 11 November 2005 19:25 (twenty years ago)

I highly recommend O & J Auto. They have weird hours, but they're great & so so so nice.

i need new tires. i don't know where to go for that.

― kelsey (kelstarry), Friday, 11 November 2005 19:28 (twenty years ago)

M0t0r care, eh? I need to take my car somewhere STAT because the trunk doesn't close and a bunch of lights are out and I'm having wiring issues...

Yes, hello everyone. The COMPUTER GUY was working at my desk all morning, so now I'm browsing through M0zilla Firef0x instead of Expl0rer. I still can't access anything java related, but at least I can get on the internet. The coolest thing is that he convinced my boss that my computer is outdated and I need a new one. :-D

I'm TOTALLY going to be at the party. I couldn't RSVP online because of my damn aforementioned java problem.

― Prancing Animals (coco), Friday, 11 November 2005 19:28 (twenty years ago)

I wish I could use Firefox on this computer. I downloaded it, but there's a bunch of intraoffice sites that only work with Explorer.

― jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 11 November 2005 19:34 (twenty years ago)

Eazy- that link seems to be incredibly helpful. Thanks to you all for the tips. Saving money is "in" this winter.

I got tires from Cassady Tire on Western/Addison (or vicinity), but they have locations all over. They did me pretty right for around $400, but that was before I was a comparison shopper for such items.

― Sparkle Motion's Rising Force, Friday, 11 November 2005 19:36 (twenty years ago)

Yeah, the only time I've gotten new tires was from Duxler on Green Bay Rd. in Evanston. It cost me a lot, but I got a free t-shirt!

― jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 11 November 2005 19:37 (twenty years ago)

I use the place on Laurance and Ashland for oil changes, I think they do mechanic work too. They are consistently recommend by folks on the cartalk website.

― Jeff-PTTL (Jeff), Friday, 11 November 2005 19:37 (twenty years ago)

Firefox does not work on my home computer no matter how many times/versions I install! It is dead to me now.

― Jordan (Jordan), Friday, 11 November 2005 19:37 (twenty years ago)

GOD ILX IS SO BORING TODAY
NEED ENTERTAINMENT

― n/a (Nick A.), Friday, 11 November 2005 19:40 (twenty years ago)

It cost me a lot, but I got a free t-shirt!

Score!

― giboyeux (skowly), Friday, 11 November 2005 19:41 (twenty years ago)

The boringest. We need a JUICY discussion topic. I think maybe I have one.

― giboyeux (skowly), Friday, 11 November 2005 19:41 (twenty years ago)

I should get in a fight with Kate again, that was kind of fun.

I recently realized that I used the phrase "kind of" A LOT, and now I'm self-conscious about it but I keep doing it.

― n/a (Nick A.), Friday, 11 November 2005 19:42 (twenty years ago)

Bring it!

― pullapartgirl (pullapartgirl), Friday, 11 November 2005 19:43 (twenty years ago)

What thread did you fight with Kate on?

― Jordan (Jordan), Friday, 11 November 2005 19:43 (twenty years ago)

Jenny, do you have any press release type stuff for the Wal-Mart movie? I'm thinking of writing something for the Madison blog that I've been neglecting.

― Jordan (Jordan), Friday, 11 November 2005 19:44 (twenty years ago)

Mostly on the "ownership of a thread" thread.

― n/a (Nick A.), Friday, 11 November 2005 19:45 (twenty years ago)

I'm Hobbles McGee today. For some reason my foot pains me to walk on it. It's concentrated on the outside of my left foot. No swelling, bruising, etc. Diagnose me!

― kelsey (kelstarry), Friday, 11 November 2005 19:46 (twenty years ago)

Meta - Thread/Topic Ownership

― jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 11 November 2005 19:46 (twenty years ago)

She's so fightable. Like how puppies are huggable, but with punches instead. Word punches.

― giboyeux (skowly), Friday, 11 November 2005 19:47 (twenty years ago)

It's time for change.

― Jeff-Beetle (Jeff), Friday, 11 November 2005 19:49 (twenty years ago)

xpost Like I said -- the perfect crazy girlfriend.

― Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Friday, 11 November 2005 19:49 (twenty years ago)

Oh good. An internet fight. I will go read all about it.

Jordan - there's all sorts of crap here: http://www.walmartmovie.com/host.php. I yoinked the wording for everything I used from that website. There is an actual press release that I took most stuff from, but there are some typos in their press release, just so you know.

― pullapartgirl (pullapartgirl), Friday, 11 November 2005 19:50 (twenty years ago)

My car is acting up too. Flat sopt while starting, idling roughly when I am sitting in traffic. I have a warranty, but I don't like the people at the dealer so much. Stupid stupid cars.

― jocelyn (Jocelyn), Friday, 11 November 2005 19:52 (twenty years ago)

Why Beetle?

― Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Friday, 11 November 2005 19:53 (twenty years ago)

PTTL.

― jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 11 November 2005 19:54 (twenty years ago)

People Talk Too Loud?

― pullapartgirl (pullapartgirl), Friday, 11 November 2005 19:55 (twenty years ago)

Oh! Holy cow, I didn't even notice the name change. Wow.

― pullapartgirl (pullapartgirl), Friday, 11 November 2005 19:56 (twenty years ago)

I need to get front end alignment or maybe new tie rods or *shudder* a CV joint. Something is making my car wobble.

― Df'nM (OutDatWay), Friday, 11 November 2005 19:59 (twenty years ago)

Well that domain will expire soon, and I'm letting go of the paste. Beetles are in.

― Jeff-PTTL (Jeff), Friday, 11 November 2005 19:59 (twenty years ago)

or they were.

― Jeff-PTTL (Jeff), Friday, 11 November 2005 19:59 (twenty years ago)

there.

― Jeff-Beetle (Jeff), Friday, 11 November 2005 20:00 (twenty years ago)

Man. I looked at the ownership thread, and it made my head hurt. How can one take that so seriously? IT'S TEH INTERNETS FOOL

― Df'nM (OutDatWay), Friday, 11 November 2005 20:02 (twenty years ago)

http://www.edmunds.com/media/reviews/generations/vw.beetle/1955.vw.beetle.500.jpg

― Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Friday, 11 November 2005 20:03 (twenty years ago)

Wow. Since Jeff told me last night that PTTL was once a well-respected music blog that was in fact nominated for a Bloggie, I am now looking at its former self courtesy the Wayback Machine. Nice work, dudes!

― jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 11 November 2005 20:03 (twenty years ago)

I was thinking about that website the other day. I think some of my better writing about "things" (as opposed to about "me") was featured on that site. I was thinking specifically about the thing I wrote about the Sundays.

― pullapartgirl (pullapartgirl), Friday, 11 November 2005 20:06 (twenty years ago)

I just read that one.

― jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 11 November 2005 20:10 (twenty years ago)

Don't read that stuff, it's embarassing. I will never write about music again, only drunkenly speak of it.

xpost, yeah Tom liked the Sundays article a lot.

― Jeff-Beetle (Jeff), Friday, 11 November 2005 20:10 (twenty years ago)

could someone link to this? i wanna see.

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Friday, 11 November 2005 20:10 (twenty years ago)

Where are these articles? Peopletalktooloud.com has, like, 2 pages.

― Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Friday, 11 November 2005 20:12 (twenty years ago)

Wow, I forgot how much I liked that three color, three column layout.

― Jeff-Beetle (Jeff), Friday, 11 November 2005 20:12 (twenty years ago)

I liked it. The things you say about just-sitting-at-home-thinking-about-stuff reminded me of posts that Nabisco has made about the Sundays, starting here.

― jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 11 November 2005 20:13 (twenty years ago)

And here's Jenny's take on the Sundays.

PTTL on the Wayback Machine.

― jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 11 November 2005 20:15 (twenty years ago)

Fuck, you guys, you made me all nostalgic and shit. I just renewed the domain for another year.

Now I'm going to have to go home and listen to the Weakerthans.

― Jeff-Beetle (Jeff), Friday, 11 November 2005 20:17 (twenty years ago)

Oh my, you can even read all the old forum posts.

― Jeff-Beetle (Jeff), Friday, 11 November 2005 20:18 (twenty years ago)

Hmmm. Seems that the Sundays thing was actually about "me." And not as good as I remembered it being. Oh well!

xpost - yikes! take it down! take it down! I don't want all my old forum posts to be exposed to people who really know about music.

― pullapartgirl (pullapartgirl), Friday, 11 November 2005 20:21 (twenty years ago)

I only have 2 and a half more hours left of staring at my ordinateur, occasionally taking a break to check the telecopieur and answer the telephone.

I need to create situations in which to use my french offfice vocab during the trip.
Avez-vous des agrafes? J'ai deux fuilles de papier et une agrafeuse, mais je n'ai pas des agrafes. BOF!

― Prancing Animals (coco), Friday, 11 November 2005 20:25 (twenty years ago)

SO BORED and SO DISAPPOINTED about NO RECORDING TONIGHT

― n/a (Nick A.), Friday, 11 November 2005 20:26 (twenty years ago)

Bof? Is that when you hit the person on the head?

― Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Friday, 11 November 2005 20:26 (twenty years ago)

GIBOYEUX what happened to your JUICY THREAD IDEA?

― n/a (Nick A.), Friday, 11 November 2005 20:27 (twenty years ago)

I'm really glad that all my most ridiculous music writing was done on newsprint and not accessible via the interweb. Surely you don't care what I thought about [Shitty band X] in Wilmington in 1998?

I'm bored too.

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Friday, 11 November 2005 20:30 (twenty years ago)

Avez-vous des agrafes? J'ai deux fuilles de papier et une agrafeuse, mais je n'ai pas des agrafes. BOF!

Are you a giraffe? Did you fill the giraffe with paper or maize, you big giraffe? POW!

― pullapartgirl (pullapartgirl), Friday, 11 November 2005 20:31 (twenty years ago)

Exactly.

NICK! Since Drummer is free, maybe we could practice or silkscreeeeeeeen?

― Prancing Animals (coco), Friday, 11 November 2005 20:33 (twenty years ago)

THE DM. I want to come over and play that game. We need a videogame guitar fap at your place.

― Jeff-Beetle (Jeff), Friday, 11 November 2005 20:34 (twenty years ago)

Oh crap! I forgot.

Lemme think.

― giboyeux (skowly), Friday, 11 November 2005 20:35 (twenty years ago)

I like the Weakerthans. Are they hated around here?

― jocelyn (Jocelyn), Friday, 11 November 2005 20:37 (twenty years ago)

Ooooh that'd be entertaining! It'd be kind of up to my housemate, since it's his shit and he's afraid of new people. I'll look into it for sure.

― Df'nM (OutDatWay), Friday, 11 November 2005 20:39 (twenty years ago)

Also, it'd be no fun if he played too, because he'd kick the shit out of everyone.

― Df'nM (OutDatWay), Friday, 11 November 2005 20:39 (twenty years ago)

I think I say "shit" too much. It's lost its magic.

― Df'nM (OutDatWay), Friday, 11 November 2005 20:40 (twenty years ago)

Is the FF record almost done?

Psst, Jenny: http://www.dane101.com/film/2005/11/11/wal-mart_the_high_cost_of_low_price_screenings_next_week

― Jordan (Jordan), Friday, 11 November 2005 20:41 (twenty years ago)

That is a sad day indeed. You still have lots of words to fall back on.

― Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Friday, 11 November 2005 20:41 (twenty years ago)

how bad does foot pain need to be before one is convinced to make an appointment with a doctor?

― kelsey (kelstarry), Friday, 11 November 2005 20:43 (twenty years ago)

That's a decision every woman must reach on her own.

― Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Friday, 11 November 2005 20:45 (twenty years ago)

The FF record is nowhere near being done. We've only done overdubs on 3 out of 13 songs, and then after that we still have to do vocals, mixing, artwork, etc. The problem is right now we're only recording one day a week, and it's been a weekday so we only get a few hours at a time, so it's just moving really slowly.

― n/a (Nick A.), Friday, 11 November 2005 20:46 (twenty years ago)

I see.

There is a contest to open for BON JOVI this week and I am mad that neither of my bands are available to do it.

― Jordan (Jordan), Friday, 11 November 2005 20:49 (twenty years ago)

Are they too busy working down at the dock?

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Friday, 11 November 2005 20:51 (twenty years ago)

Is the union on strike?

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Friday, 11 November 2005 20:51 (twenty years ago)

This never ends well.

http://i.timeinc.net/time/2005/100movies/images/on_the_waterfront.jpg

― Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Friday, 11 November 2005 20:54 (twenty years ago)

BRASS BAND MUSICIANS UNITE

No, one band is split between three cities/two states and one band has stalled on rehearsals/gigs because the main dude is obsessing over completing the record by himself.

― Jordan (Jordan), Friday, 11 November 2005 20:55 (twenty years ago)

Neeeeeeek, What did you think of my idea? We could work on the new song!

― Prancing Animals (coco), Friday, 11 November 2005 20:55 (twenty years ago)

I don't know. Call Ben and see what he wants to do.

― n/a (Nick A.), Friday, 11 November 2005 21:03 (twenty years ago)

I like the Weakerthans. Are they hated around here?

Not that I know of, that's just where I got PTTL from, the weakerthans song Wellington Wednesdays.

― Jeff-Beetle (Jeff), Friday, 11 November 2005 21:05 (twenty years ago)

But do you want to? (Nick?)

― Prancing Animals (coco), Friday, 11 November 2005 21:12 (twenty years ago)

DO YOU, DO YOU, DO YOU WANT TO

http://www.aeiou.at/aeiou.encyclop.data.image.f/f663877a.jpg

― jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 11 November 2005 21:14 (twenty years ago)

I like the Weakerthans. I especially like them for introducing me to the Constantines, who are like my favorite band in the world right now.

― Df'nM (OutDatWay), Friday, 11 November 2005 21:17 (twenty years ago)

Hey, hey, hey - I had lunch today at the fast-food version of Frontera Grill on the 7th floor of Marshall Fields - HIGHLY RECOMMENDED.

― Eazy (Eazy), Friday, 11 November 2005 21:20 (twenty years ago)

I don't feel very enthusiastic about practice right now, especially the part where we carry all our equipment up four flights of stairs, but I don't know what else we would do tonight and it might make me feel better to do something productive and creative. I don't want to screenprint tonight, too tedious.

― n/a (Nick A.), Friday, 11 November 2005 21:20 (twenty years ago)

Come watch me pack tonight. You can sit on my couch and make wisecracks.

― jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 11 November 2005 21:26 (twenty years ago)

Afternoon literati anyone? Such a slow day.

― n/a (Nick A.), Friday, 11 November 2005 21:26 (twenty years ago)

I would if it wasn't goddamn broken for me.

― Jordan (Jordan), Friday, 11 November 2005 21:27 (twenty years ago)

Gotta keep editin', can't lit right now.

― Eazy (Eazy), Friday, 11 November 2005 21:28 (twenty years ago)

I can Nick. What room?

― Prancing Animals (coco), Friday, 11 November 2005 21:28 (twenty years ago)

Social Lounge 35. It's working for me, Jordan.

― n/a (Nick A.), Friday, 11 November 2005 21:29 (twenty years ago)

Argh. I hate this. I have to solve a problem someone else caused, I'm coming into the situation with almost zero idea what's going on, and nothing I do seems to work. This shit should not happen on Friday afternoon. I'm going to try passing the buck back to the guy who caused the problem.

― Df'nM (OutDatWay), Friday, 11 November 2005 21:34 (twenty years ago)

does anyone wanna talk with me? i'm bored.

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Friday, 11 November 2005 22:07 (twenty years ago)

Hi.

― Jordan (Jordan), Friday, 11 November 2005 22:09 (twenty years ago)

hey amanda. me too.

― kelsey (kelstarry), Friday, 11 November 2005 22:11 (twenty years ago)

I wish I was bored instead of running around putting out little fires that I had no part in starting. :(((

― Df'nM (OutDatWay), Friday, 11 November 2005 22:16 (twenty years ago)

I'm sorry, Dan. That is the worst on a Friday afternoon.

HIIIIIIII, AMMMMMMMMAAAANNNNNDDDDDDAAAAAAAAAAAA.
I just got 3rd place in a literati game!

― Prancing Animals (coco), Friday, 11 November 2005 22:17 (twenty years ago)

Is that good? I'm-a gonna see you guys tomorrow night. That'll be fun. Should I bring anything?

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Friday, 11 November 2005 22:19 (twenty years ago)

Um, yeah, it's GREAT! haha, no, 3rd out of 4 players.

Bring your enthusiasm for life!

― Prancing Animals (coco), Friday, 11 November 2005 22:20 (twenty years ago)

Enthusiasm for life, huh. I'll have to look for that between my enthusiasm for lice and Lithuania.

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Friday, 11 November 2005 22:22 (twenty years ago)

I came in LAST. But I'm doing better on this game so far. Julia is too good.

― n/a (Nick A.), Friday, 11 November 2005 22:23 (twenty years ago)

On the sunny side, only 37 more minutes. Do you guys have a lucky number? Mine is 38.

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Friday, 11 November 2005 22:23 (twenty years ago)

bring drink, if you want to drink. we're too poor to serve everyone drinks.

― kelsey (kelstarry), Friday, 11 November 2005 22:24 (twenty years ago)

NICK! I thought of the perfect thing to do tonight! WE'll go somewhere that starts with a J and ends with a FABRICS. GUESS!

― Prancing Animals (coco), Friday, 11 November 2005 22:24 (twenty years ago)

http://www.theonion.com/content/files/images/character3.frontpage_thumbnail.jpg

― jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 11 November 2005 22:28 (twenty years ago)

MEN BE CRAFTIN'?

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Friday, 11 November 2005 22:29 (twenty years ago)

He should. We could make sock monkeys together. His mom enjoys crafts. I'm sure she'd appreciate something homemade.

― Prancing Animals (coco), Friday, 11 November 2005 22:30 (twenty years ago)

I'm getting entirely too excited about these monkeys. The reality is that I've never been successful in making ANYTHING remotely crafty.

― Prancing Animals (coco), Friday, 11 November 2005 22:33 (twenty years ago)

I vote crafty. That's probably what I'm doing tonight. I'm almost halfway through with Leaf's ear warmer thingys.

― kelsey (kelstarry), Friday, 11 November 2005 22:33 (twenty years ago)

I'm not on the clock any more. WOO HOO!!!!!!! It's the weeeeeeekkkkkeeeeeennnnnndddddd!

Wow. You said you might do that and now you're almost done! I'm impressed.

I want to know what Jenny made and sold at craft fairs.

― Prancing Animals (coco), Friday, 11 November 2005 22:34 (twenty years ago)

I WANT to be crafty. Maybe it is my time to blossom into a crafty person.

― Prancing Animals (coco), Friday, 11 November 2005 22:34 (twenty years ago)

I should have some sort of coming out party. I'm come out as a crafter and as a baker (haven't started on that goal either). It will be like a debutante party or bas mitzfah (sp?) but I'll be 28 and not jewish.

― Prancing Animals (coco), Friday, 11 November 2005 22:35 (twenty years ago)

:( I don't want to be crafty. But I guess I could play guitar or play Katamari or draw or cry or something.

― n/a (Nick A.), Friday, 11 November 2005 22:35 (twenty years ago)

Cry?! NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!

― Prancing Animals (coco), Friday, 11 November 2005 22:36 (twenty years ago)

Tonight would be a good night to start baking. Do you want my fruit crisp recipe? I'll email it to you.

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Friday, 11 November 2005 22:37 (twenty years ago)

Sarah, you should hang with my gf. She loves going to J04nn F4br1cs, knitting, crafting, etc.

― Df'nM (OutDatWay), Friday, 11 November 2005 22:38 (twenty years ago)

I don't know if she'd be a good influence on me or if I'd just disappoint her in my inability to craft. Nick's sister tried to teach me how to crochet one time, but I couldn't get the knack of it. I ran into a problem after a while. I showed it to her. She squinted her eyes and then smiled and said, "Oh! We can fix this!" and then pulled a string until 2/3 of my work disappeared. "There you go," she said. "Now that we went back to where you made the mistake, it should be ok."

Please do, Amanda. What is it like? Pie? Tarts?

― Prancing Animals (coco), Friday, 11 November 2005 22:40 (twenty years ago)

I can't do anything that requires precision, but I used to make and decorate tables and wall hangings and anything that could be done with nails, a glue gun and a trip to Home Depot/dollar store.

It's like a crumble -- you just cut up the fruit and then make the crumble topping and bake. MMMMM.

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Friday, 11 November 2005 22:41 (twenty years ago)

sarah, they're really quite small. it's not like i'm making a sweater, blanket, or a scarf, even!

actually, maybe i'll make homemade applesauce tonight. i have a ton of apples to use up.

― kelsey (kelstarry), Friday, 11 November 2005 22:42 (twenty years ago)

you've got mail, sarah.

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Friday, 11 November 2005 22:43 (twenty years ago)

Yum! I likes me some fruit crumble/cobbler. I also like applesauce, for the record, with cinnamon.

― Prancing Animals (coco), Friday, 11 November 2005 22:45 (twenty years ago)

me too. i like it chunky, too. also: with the skin on.

i was going to run all these errands tonight, but it hurts to walk so now i have a revised plan of one errand & home.

― kelsey (kelstarry), Friday, 11 November 2005 22:46 (twenty years ago)

Craft stores make me want to go to sleep.

― Jordan (Jordan), Friday, 11 November 2005 22:47 (twenty years ago)

(pssst- Jordan, you're SUPPOSED to say, "Man, Nick, You really should go to JoAnn's. It is THE BEST THING EVER! I mean, you wouldn't THINK so, but just WAIT until you get inside! It's like a candy store!")

Amanda, questions:
Are regular oats any different than Quaker QUICK oats? I don't know what "steel cut" means.
Also, could I use peaches? I don't even know if they're in season. I just thought peach cobbler sounded fun.

Are you going to the doc soon, kels?

― Prancing Animals (coco), Friday, 11 November 2005 22:49 (twenty years ago)

I won.

― Prancing Animals (coco), Friday, 11 November 2005 22:51 (twenty years ago)

:-D

― Prancing Animals (coco), Friday, 11 November 2005 22:51 (twenty years ago)

Duh, Amanda, I just read the rest of the recipe.

― Prancing Animals (coco), Friday, 11 November 2005 22:51 (twenty years ago)

Thanks for the game, you guys.

― I do feel guilty for getting any perverse amusement out of it (Rock Hardy), Friday, 11 November 2005 22:53 (twenty years ago)

Yep. Thank YOU.

― Prancing Animals (coco), Friday, 11 November 2005 22:53 (twenty years ago)

Are regular oats any different than Quaker QUICK oats? I don't know what "steel cut" means. Yeah -- quick oats are ok. Steel cut oats are totally different and come in a tin sometimes, but you would have to consciously know that you're buying them because they're more expensive than regular oats.

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Friday, 11 November 2005 22:54 (twenty years ago)

And they're also more nutritious, but take longer to cook.

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Friday, 11 November 2005 22:54 (twenty years ago)

the earliest i can see the doctor is wednesday, so i made an appointment for that day.

also, steel cut oats are less oat-looking & more crumb-looking. the cheapest place i've found them is the middle eastern bakery.

― kelsey (kelstarry), Friday, 11 November 2005 22:54 (twenty years ago)

I always have (cheap) oats on hand. Remember my no bake cookies? Also, I love oatmeal with brown sugar on top in the winter.

It's so dark outside.

Nick, I'm sorry I forgot my purse today and that you have to walk back over here.

― Prancing Animals (coco), Friday, 11 November 2005 22:55 (twenty years ago)

oh yeah -- those oats are fine!! also, if you don't have a food processor or a blender, you can chop the oats by hand. that part is not really all that important.

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Friday, 11 November 2005 22:57 (twenty years ago)

Yeah, I don't have a processor. I do have a blender, but I've only ever used it for frozen (alcoholic) drinks - oh, and a few protein shakes.

I am only missing a glass baking dish and some fruit. I have frozen fruit (peaches), but not enough, and maybe one apple. I guess I should invest in a glass baking dish.

― Prancing Animals (coco), Friday, 11 November 2005 22:59 (twenty years ago)

I guess everyone is getting ready to leave their workplaces.

― Prancing Animals (coco), Friday, 11 November 2005 23:00 (twenty years ago)

Steel-cut oats cooked in milk = porridge. In case you were wondering what exactly porridge is.

― Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Friday, 11 November 2005 23:01 (twenty years ago)

frozen peaches will be fine! glass is unimportant!

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Friday, 11 November 2005 23:01 (twenty years ago)

Oh, I can make it in a brownie pan maybe? Or cake pan?

I will see some of you tomorrow. I may look a little more like a DIY/CRAFTY/BAKED GOODS person by then, so if you don't recognize me at first, that might be it.

― Prancing Animals (coco), Friday, 11 November 2005 23:02 (twenty years ago)

just make sure the pan isn't too BIG. then you will have a very shallow cobbler.

shallow cobbler: a shoemaker who really really cares about what people think of his wardrobe.

haha. later.

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Friday, 11 November 2005 23:02 (twenty years ago)

haha! night everyone!

― kelsey (kelstarry), Friday, 11 November 2005 23:03 (twenty years ago)

ha! I pictured him wearing Jimmy Choos or something.

Goodnight! I'm going to read some of my RELAX: You may only have a few minutes left book now.

― Prancing Animals (coco), Friday, 11 November 2005 23:04 (twenty years ago)

i didn't know that was what porridge is. porridge is good.

you can get steel cut oats cheap at bulk food kind of places...i used to buy it for 17 cents a pound and have it every morning for breakfast. it takes like 20 min to cook though because it isn't all processed the way regular oats are.

sarah, i could teach you how to knit. though i don't really knit much anymore. crocheting is fucking hard, i could never catch on.

i talked to my mom and christmas is coming and i am freaked out. arrrrgh.

― Juulia (julesbdules), Friday, 11 November 2005 23:12 (twenty years ago)

Come along to Schubas tonight, if anyone's bored - Freakwater and The Zincs.

― Eazy (Eazy), Saturday, 12 November 2005 01:10 (twenty years ago)

Freakwater? They just played here!

― giboyeux (skowly), Saturday, 12 November 2005 01:21 (twenty years ago)

Shit. I might see you guys there. I'm torn between going to be early and going out to see other humans. We'll just see what wins.

― Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Saturday, 12 November 2005 02:07 (twenty years ago)

i Dunno though. This Ultramagnetic MC's album is pretty damn solid. I may just have to stay home and listen to it over and over.

― Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Saturday, 12 November 2005 02:16 (twenty years ago)

JOHN! I'M NOT HOME, CAN'T FIND YOUR ADDRESS, CAN'T REMEMBER WHERE YOUR PLACE IS, AND CAN'T REMEMBER ANYONE'S PHONE NUMBER! I'M KIND OF UPSET! DO YOU SEE MY CAPS?! UPSET!

― Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Saturday, 12 November 2005 16:28 (twenty years ago)

I called Nick and Sarah, and they weren't home. I lost everyone's phone number. I am irresponsible and unreliable. Someone call me. 312-850-4277.

― Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Saturday, 12 November 2005 16:30 (twenty years ago)

Ah well.

I'm so sorry. John, I am totally going to show up one night with some beer and a big fat fucking pizza. That's a promise.

― Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Saturday, 12 November 2005 18:50 (twenty years ago)

Sending you his #, K...

The baby shower's pretty early, so I should be able to make K. and B.'s party later.

― Eazy (Eazy), Saturday, 12 November 2005 21:06 (twenty years ago)

hey! eazy! literati?

― Juulia (julesbdules), Saturday, 12 November 2005 21:10 (twenty years ago)

O Julia, I'm heading out the door or I would - soon, though!

― Eazy (Eazy), Saturday, 12 November 2005 21:27 (twenty years ago)

I'm in a new building

― Jeff-Beetle (Jeff), Monday, 14 November 2005 13:13 (twenty years ago)

Speaking of winter squash, here is a recipe I made last night.

― pullapartgirl (pullapartgirl), Monday, 14 November 2005 14:13 (twenty years ago)

Jenny, that recipe sounds so yummy! I'm going to try it, maybe this weekend. I haven't played around with winter squash that much, so it'll be a fun experiment.

This week is going to be sooooo busy. I'm trying to not dread it, but that's not coming along so well.

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Monday, 14 November 2005 14:20 (twenty years ago)

Be careful chopping that sucker in half. I had to take a chef's knife, cover it with a towel, and gently hammer it (with a hammer) down into the squash.

― Jeff-Beetle (Jeff), Monday, 14 November 2005 14:23 (twenty years ago)

shit, really? i sharpen my chopping knife regularly...will this help?

also, you did a real number on jesse's pants. he claimed not to be wearing underwear. is this true?

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Monday, 14 November 2005 14:28 (twenty years ago)

Jo-Ann fabrics is nothing compared with the world of kitsch that is Hobby Lobby. It's like middle American Christian stuff mixed with Native American emulation and those crying Pierrot masks.

― jocelyn (Jocelyn), Monday, 14 November 2005 14:42 (twenty years ago)

he wasn't wearing any. he showed me his sack.

― kelsey (kelstarry), Monday, 14 November 2005 15:00 (twenty years ago)

yipes. how's the foot?

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Monday, 14 November 2005 15:01 (twenty years ago)

Jesse also bit Sarah on the head, as thanks for us giving him a ride home. That was funny.

― n/a (Nick A.), Monday, 14 November 2005 15:03 (twenty years ago)

Has Weird Al ever done "Freeballin'"? He should. It's there waiting for him to do it.

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Monday, 14 November 2005 15:05 (twenty years ago)

foot = still gimpy.

but, now i'm two days away from my doctor's appointment instead of five.

― kelsey (kelstarry), Monday, 14 November 2005 15:11 (twenty years ago)

Yeah, Jesse was holding my head and kissing me and kissing me and kissing me (as I was moving my face around to avoid mouth to mouth contact) and then he just took a bite out of my head. He confuses biting for affection, just like Nick's kitty.

― Prancing Animals (coco), Monday, 14 November 2005 15:16 (twenty years ago)

sarah, i think brooke has a girl crush on you. every time she sees you, after you've left she always says, "i really like sarah!"

EVERY TIME!!!

― kelsey (kelstarry), Monday, 14 November 2005 15:32 (twenty years ago)

Boy, I'm glad we pawned him off.

― Jeff-Beetle (Jeff), Monday, 14 November 2005 15:36 (twenty years ago)

does anyone else read post secret? there's on there today that is creepy. a guy wrote in to say that his girlfriend's mom makes him wear her panties.

― kelsey (kelstarry), Monday, 14 November 2005 15:36 (twenty years ago)

whoa - do you think it's true? that sounds like the work of jt leroy.

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Monday, 14 November 2005 15:37 (twenty years ago)

"makes him"? Sounds like someone doesn't know what they can and can't control...

― Eazy (Eazy), Monday, 14 November 2005 15:39 (twenty years ago)

Hard to say.

Jeff, I know you seem rather shy about it, but you really are looking great. You should feel really proud of yourself . . . it seems like it didn't take very long at all! then again, i see you quite infrequently...

― kelsey (kelstarry), Monday, 14 November 2005 15:43 (twenty years ago)

I think I missed out on a happenin' weekend in Chicago : (

― jocelyn (Jocelyn), Monday, 14 November 2005 15:48 (twenty years ago)

Jordan you will be pleased to know that I spend large portions of the weekend playing RESIDENT EVIL 4.

― n/a (Nick A.), Monday, 14 November 2005 15:49 (twenty years ago)

Yeah, I become obsessive when I diet. 25 pounds since 8/15. Only 10 or so more to go.

― Jeff-Beetle (Jeff), Monday, 14 November 2005 15:57 (twenty years ago)

I like Brooke too! It's mutual! Which reminds me, she said you guys might host ANTM soon..?

My November and December is jam-packed. I can't believe that I'll be in Virginia in less than 2 weeks (and France in a little over a month!).

Can you tell it's Christmas? I mean, Can you tell I'm in a good mood these days? I read this self-help book about how to RELAX this weekend and now I'm feeling incredibly positive about everything. But also it made me somehow MORE sensitive. I almost love everyone as much as John does.

― Prancing Animals (coco), Monday, 14 November 2005 15:58 (twenty years ago)

Hahahahaha I was stoned.

I can use the Internet again, yippee!

And I am now all moved into my new place, hurrah!

― jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 14 November 2005 16:05 (twenty years ago)

i think we're hosting this week. should be fun . . . we have so much frickin' beer!!! we're thinking that it'll be a "pizza & beer" ANTM night. everyone puts in $5 for pizza & we provide the beer. cheap night, eh?!

― kelsey (kelstarry), Monday, 14 November 2005 16:11 (twenty years ago)

Sarah, doesn't ANTM come on Tuesdays though, when we'll be recording?

― n/a (Nick A.), Monday, 14 November 2005 16:14 (twenty years ago)

Uh oh. BLOOPER!

― jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 14 November 2005 16:16 (twenty years ago)

we may do it on wednesday, since folks can catch the recap episode on tuesdays.

― kelsey (kelstarry), Monday, 14 November 2005 16:21 (twenty years ago)

Rats! I might not be able to make it this week, because I have a meeting at Truman. That sucks. I'm looking forward to my meeting though.

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Monday, 14 November 2005 16:23 (twenty years ago)

B-but Wednesday is the Walmart M0vie! NOO0000!

Jeff does look very good, but also he looked very good before. I like both versions.

― Prancing Animals (coco), Monday, 14 November 2005 16:24 (twenty years ago)

fuck. this wednesday is jenny's thing, too. i am scattered.

― kelsey (kelstarry), Monday, 14 November 2005 16:24 (twenty years ago)

Yeah, I can't make it to anything this Wednesday. Bleh!

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Monday, 14 November 2005 16:25 (twenty years ago)

I want to get my medical records sent from one doctor to another but all these forms are required and a $20 copying fee! That's crazy talk. Do you think I can just walk in my current doctor's office, request my file and hand it to the new doctor?

Which reminds me, I get paid tomorrow. :-D

― Prancing Animals (coco), Monday, 14 November 2005 16:29 (twenty years ago)

Nick, that DOES please me. How far did you get?

I just got my flu shot at work. I'm sure it came with a cocktail of conformity and productivity drugs.

― Jordan (Jordan), Monday, 14 November 2005 16:30 (twenty years ago)

I have rescued the PRESIDENT'S DAUGHTER and am up to the part where you're trapped in the cabin with the funny Antonio Banderas-style dude with EVIL ZOMBIES on all sides! I like the game but it seems too easy so far, am I still fairly early on in the game?

― n/a (Nick A.), Monday, 14 November 2005 16:33 (twenty years ago)

I'd say you're just under halfway through. There are definitely harder bits ahead, but I think one of the reasons I like it so much is that it rarely gets frustrating.

― Jordan (Jordan), Monday, 14 November 2005 16:43 (twenty years ago)

Nick was really frustrated at the VERY beginning of the game, like before the title even came up. ha ha

Do you think it will really snow Wednesday? huh huh huh?

― Prancing Animals (coco), Monday, 14 November 2005 16:47 (twenty years ago)

it's gonna snow on wednesday? that's pretty exciting. i love the first snow.

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Monday, 14 November 2005 16:50 (twenty years ago)

Hey all, just wanted to write and say it was great meeting (some of) the DUDES from ILX at Quenchers the other night. I've been kinda thinking about it and I'm worried I came across as only interested in promoting my band and "talking shop" or whatever. While I do think local bands shoud support each other's endeavors, I don't want anyone to think I'm only out for networking or self-promotion or whatever. I really enjoy the conversations we all have on the board and I'd really like to hang out with all y'all in the future because as I said, I've been far too anti-social lately.

Forgive my obsessing over things if I didn't give this impression, but it was something I wanted to get out. I just realized it may have been the case when I casually mentioned meeting some of you to one of the other guys in my band, who responded by saying something akin to "stay on it, Matt knows us and could get us shows." I dunno, I just felt like making it clear that's not at all the reason I post on the Chicago thread or why I want to meet all you guys.

OK, enough of that. I hope it snows Wednesday.

― Df'nM (OutDatWay), Monday, 14 November 2005 16:50 (twenty years ago)

We got a used PS2 + Katamari over the weekend. Maddie got frustrated because the controls weren't intuitive to her, but the game is a joy just to watch (and to read the descriptions of the objects you pick up).

― Jordan (Jordan), Monday, 14 November 2005 16:56 (twenty years ago)

I think the timed element in KD should be optional, you should be able to have a relaxing roll around if you want.

― Jordan (Jordan), Monday, 14 November 2005 16:58 (twenty years ago)

I just ate 1/2 of the lunch i brought today. I am starving!!

It was a bowl of homemade carrot ginger soup . . . I think it turned out fine! I pureed it, but not too much b/c I like tiny chunklets in there.

― kelsey (kelstarry), Monday, 14 November 2005 17:01 (twenty years ago)

I AM ALSO STARVING

But I will force myself to wait at least another forty minutes before getting lunch.

― Jordan (Jordan), Monday, 14 November 2005 17:02 (twenty years ago)

No way, Dan, I didn't get that impression from you AT ALL. I mean, I think band-talk was a very small part of the conversation (Jeff's mock-dismissiveness notwithstanding), and we all talked about our bands, not just you.

That said: C4N4ST4 RECORD RELEASE SHOW THIS FRIDAY AT SUBTERRANEAN.

― jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 14 November 2005 17:02 (twenty years ago)

Ohhhhhhhhhhhhhhh homemade carrot ginger soup!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

― Eazy (Eazy), Monday, 14 November 2005 17:03 (twenty years ago)

It's yummy!!

― kelsey (kelstarry), Monday, 14 November 2005 17:04 (twenty years ago)

HOW COULD IT NOT BE?

― Eazy (Eazy), Monday, 14 November 2005 17:05 (twenty years ago)

I put cardamom in it too . . . i think cardamom is my favorite spice.
(i also made tuna noodle casserole last night, but tuna is hit or miss with lots of folks.)
Last night I was pretty domestic...cooking & knitting. I'm way over 1/2 way done with leaf's ear thingys. I will probably finish them tonight!
also tonight: homemade applesauce with cinnamon!

― kelsey (kelstarry), Monday, 14 November 2005 17:07 (twenty years ago)

Ooh, I've never made homemade applesauce. You should make some potato latkes to put it on.

― Jordan (Jordan), Monday, 14 November 2005 17:08 (twenty years ago)

I put cardamom in some homemade crockpot applesauce last week and it was a new Taste Sensation! I recommend it.
Jordan-I like We Heart Katamari because it has "as large as possible" and "as fast as possible" options.
Oh yeah, and fuck $500 car repairs.
I am going in search of lunch...

― jocelyn (Jocelyn), Monday, 14 November 2005 17:08 (twenty years ago)

Yesterday I made coconut-cranberry muffins, french toast with coconut milk (YUM) and soba noodle salad with carrots, pea pods and yummy spicy dressing. I didn't do any homework either, which is NOT GOOD.

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Monday, 14 November 2005 17:09 (twenty years ago)

amanda, you are seriously a culinary goddess.

― kelsey (kelstarry), Monday, 14 November 2005 17:10 (twenty years ago)

Oh, that's good to know, Jocelyn.

Yesterday we made (LOTS OF) hashbrowns for breakfast and cornish game hens for dinner.

french toast with coconut milk (YUM)

tell me more

― Jordan (Jordan), Monday, 14 November 2005 17:12 (twenty years ago)

Everyone's homemade fixins sound pretty fantastic, to be honest.

― jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 14 November 2005 17:12 (twenty years ago)

I also felt very domestic this weekend. I made apple crisp, as recommended to me by Amanda, and worked on my handmade Christmas gifts.

― Prancing Animals (coco), Monday, 14 November 2005 17:16 (twenty years ago)

Yes, dan, my mock-dismissiveness was meant in good fun, I'm sorry if it came across any other way. It was great to met you, I hope you come out more often.

― Jeff-Beetle (Jeff), Monday, 14 November 2005 17:17 (twenty years ago)

yum . . . apple crisp! maybe i should use a few of my apples for that. i think i need to pick up a few more large mason jars on the way home.

ooh! jeff! do you think your success was more diet or more exercise? or just the wise combination of both?

― kelsey (kelstarry), Monday, 14 November 2005 17:17 (twenty years ago)

Maybe sometime LATER, like in late January, we can have a potluck at my apartment to sample wares...? I'm sure I'll be an expert by then. I might even own an apron (!).

― Prancing Animals (coco), Monday, 14 November 2005 17:18 (twenty years ago)

I wish I either had time to cook, or somebody to cook for/with. I don't even bother anymore with the pretense of buying vegetables that will just rot in the crisper.

― jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 14 November 2005 17:19 (twenty years ago)

i was excited to cook b/c i'm sick of getting lunch at work. i'd much rather use my lunch time to read or knit or something. that's the new plan, anyway. today i'm probably going to hobble over to the water tower to scope out cheap pants for work. i think the gap still has some on sale.

― kelsey (kelstarry), Monday, 14 November 2005 17:20 (twenty years ago)

It wasn't anything that happened Thursday that made me think that, it was really other people's impressions of my motivation for wanting to meet you guys. Whatever, it's all good. I'll get working on the GU1TAR H3R0 FAP. I'd be up for a potluck too.

― Df'nM (OutDatWay), Monday, 14 November 2005 17:21 (twenty years ago)

Oh boy, I love a good potluck. LOVE IT.

As for the french toast with coconut milk, just sub coconut milk (well stirred!) for the regular milk in the egg mixture. If you really wanna get fancy, put sweetened coconut on top while you're cooking it. Also, sprinkle with pumpkin pie spices. I used (homemade!) wheat bread, two eggs and about 1/2 cup of coconut milk.

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Monday, 14 November 2005 17:23 (twenty years ago)

Mmmm, I will definitely try that. I love french toast. For lack of homemade bread though, I always use challah (though I've been meaning to try making that at home, I did it as a little kid at Sunday school so it can't be that hard).

― Jordan (Jordan), Monday, 14 November 2005 17:26 (twenty years ago)

Jordan - You should put a breadmaker on your wedding registry. It worked for me!

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Monday, 14 November 2005 17:28 (twenty years ago)

But aren't breadmakers kind of...cheating?

― Jordan (Jordan), Monday, 14 November 2005 17:29 (twenty years ago)

YES.

― kelsey (kelstarry), Monday, 14 November 2005 17:29 (twenty years ago)

But, you know, whatever. Cheat away. There are worse things.

I used to love coming over to Leaf's place when he had bread in his breadmaker. Makes the place smell amazing.

― kelsey (kelstarry), Monday, 14 November 2005 17:30 (twenty years ago)

Here's what we might consider doing:

Jaymc is going to have a housewarming potluck, but the catch is that you have to bring the recipe with the thing you brought and a few copies for other people to pick up. That way, we all get good food AND recipes and Jaymc gets a warm house. Perhaps after the holidays pass, so we don't feel too much pressure with all the planning and whatnot?

Feel free to reject this plan. I'm known to be overzealous with party planning.

Also -- breadmakers are not cheating when you work full time and are in school too. Maybe when I'm retired I'll retire the breadmaker.

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Monday, 14 November 2005 17:32 (twenty years ago)

i know, i know. i shouldn't be so hard on the breadmakers. how about it being less cheating if you don't use a box mix?

― kelsey (kelstarry), Monday, 14 November 2005 17:34 (twenty years ago)

Ew - box mix. Yuk. Yeah, I can accept that. I would never use a box mix.

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Monday, 14 November 2005 17:35 (twenty years ago)

I like that plan. John??

We had a birthday celebration a few minutes ago which involved lots of dessert items. (BEFORE lunch)

― Prancing Animals (coco), Monday, 14 November 2005 17:35 (twenty years ago)

Hmmm, well, I was going to have a housewarming in early December, but I'm having second thoughts about that, since I'm realizing my apartment is maybe not as big as I once thought, now that furniture is in there. (Nick and Sarah can confirm or deny.) I guess it depends on how many people I invite: I was inclined to just say whoever wants to come can come, but perhaps that is unwise. All of y'all are A-listers, though.

Regardless, a potluck might be fun, though, except I would probably get stressed out about having to cook. And I don't have much use for recipes.

― jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 14 November 2005 17:37 (twenty years ago)

Jeff does look very good, but also he looked very good before. I like both versions.

Me, too!

Amanda, can I have your apple crisp recipe, too? I bought a bag of apples yesterday, and I want to crisps those fuckers up.

Hey, nobody should feel obligated to go to that Wal-Mart thing! There are a ton of screenings and I have the DVD so if anybody wants to see it another time, they can. I also think we're expecting a pretty good sized crowd. So if you want to come, come on! But if you are busy or would rather do something fun and relaxing, you should do that, too! I know from busy and from the need to do something fun for a damn change, so I would never be upset at anyone for not going.

That said, I will probably post about it again tomorrow, but as a reminder, not as a nag.

xpost: I like pot lucks. If John doesn't want one at his house, I have - get this - like TWO WEEKS off after Christmas and would love to host a gathering at our place. And John can come without having to cook anything - he can just bring bread or something.

― pullapartgirl (pullapartgirl), Monday, 14 November 2005 17:39 (twenty years ago)

chef jaymcee

― bingo (Chris V), Monday, 14 November 2005 17:41 (twenty years ago)

Actually, I'd prob. me more inclined to cook something for you guys than for the stupid potluck we had at work a few weeks ago. Like I'm going to spend my precious weekend time making food for people I never speak to. Uh huh. I brought drinks.

― jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 14 November 2005 17:42 (twenty years ago)

No biggie -- it's your house and your warming, Jaymc. No pressure!

I'll email you the recipe Jenny.

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Monday, 14 November 2005 17:42 (twenty years ago)

can i have it too, amanda?!

― kelsey (kelstarry), Monday, 14 November 2005 17:43 (twenty years ago)

Honestly, I just want to feed all of you. Wherever the potluck is will be fine with me!! When I like people, I want to give them food. Dan can attest to this -- I often overdo it and forcefeed people who come over. A week after I met him I had already made him some soup. I gots problems.

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Monday, 14 November 2005 17:44 (twenty years ago)

Entirely diet, I haven't been to or had time to go to the gym for the last 3 months. So i'm still flabby, the flab just weighs less. I'll start going to the gym again when the new one opens in the work building. I'm sure I'll gain some of it back then, but I'll proabably look the same. xpost

― Jeff-Beetle (Jeff), Monday, 14 November 2005 17:45 (twenty years ago)

I want Amanda to feed me. Jeff and I actually talked about this, Amanda, and he agrees!

― pullapartgirl (pullapartgirl), Monday, 14 November 2005 17:46 (twenty years ago)

Shovelglove: your home exercise solution.

― pullapartgirl (pullapartgirl), Monday, 14 November 2005 17:54 (twenty years ago)

xpost - It would be my pleasure entirely!

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Monday, 14 November 2005 17:55 (twenty years ago)

John, your apartment is plenty big for at least a CHILX get-together. I will make cheese grits. Mmmm.

Katamari Damacy has the most intuitive controls of any game I've ever played! What was Maddie's issue with them?

― n/a (Nick A.), Monday, 14 November 2005 17:56 (twenty years ago)

i'd love to own a sledgehammer.

― kelsey (kelstarry), Monday, 14 November 2005 18:07 (twenty years ago)

Heh, I've been trying the opposite approach. I still eat a whole lot of food (and that means a lot of deli meat, pizza, etc.) but I'm going to the gym pretty regularly. I think it's having some effect.

xpost to Jeff

― Jordan (Jordan), Monday, 14 November 2005 18:08 (twenty years ago)

Oh yes, definitely, I can have a CHILX get-together. I had just been fantasizing about a party with DOZENS of people and had realized that that might be a bit much.

― jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 14 November 2005 18:10 (twenty years ago)

I've tried to diet and did well for a month but then fell off the wagon for the past month. I think I need the gym more than dieting, but I have changed a lot of my eating habits i.e. no more soda, cookies, cakes, white bread, etc.

― jocelyn (Jocelyn), Monday, 14 November 2005 18:12 (twenty years ago)

Nick, I think it mostly has to do with turning directions. I could see it being difficult if I had never played arcade games or games with tank-style controls (i.e. using both hands to control direction). She's really not that bad, but was getting frustrated at the last house level (which I failed at a couple times as well).

― Jordan (Jordan), Monday, 14 November 2005 18:12 (twenty years ago)

The last house level was, I thought, the most annoying one in the game. I hate starting off at 20mm or whatever tiny size it was.

― jocelyn (Jocelyn), Monday, 14 November 2005 18:19 (twenty years ago)

So it doesn't get harder from there? Good to know.

― Jordan (Jordan), Monday, 14 November 2005 18:24 (twenty years ago)

I'm sitting next to someone having a conversation with someone else (I'm eavesdropping, but it would be impossible not to) who, while talking about an event where his sister's friend ran into Jesse J4ckson, Jr. who ostensibly asked for her number, said, "It was an event for African Americans" and he actually whispered "African Americans" as if talking about events attended predominately by black people is somehow bad.

He also hasn't shut up for the 20 minutes that I've been sitting here trying to read for crim pro. He's talking mostly about television.

― pullapartgirl (pullapartgirl), Monday, 14 November 2005 18:50 (twenty years ago)

AHHHHHH He, who has gone straight from college into law school, just said that his parents, who live in a seriously fancy pants suburb, may be rich be he most certainly is not! Then we went on to talk about how angry he was at the clerk at Walgreen's when she wouldn't make an exception for him and take his check after it failed the Vericheck verification system.

AHAHASDKJFalskjdcaiosdajfkasgdjalsdg......

― pullapartgirl (pullapartgirl), Monday, 14 November 2005 18:58 (twenty years ago)

Sue him. You can do that now, right?

― Jordan (Jordan), Monday, 14 November 2005 18:59 (twenty years ago)

I like how I just went to Tokyo Lunchbox for a "healthy" lunch and then ended up getting vegetable tempura, which made me feel like I'd just eaten a big plate of onion rings and rice.

― jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 14 November 2005 19:02 (twenty years ago)

Anybody can sue somebody, or at least try to. Unfortunately, the only law he has violated is the law of NOT GETTING ON MY NERVES. Which is kind of impossible to avoid because exam time is here and I'm going to get my period like, any second now, and I'm grumpy.

― pullapartgirl (pullapartgirl), Monday, 14 November 2005 19:09 (twenty years ago)

Which is why I'm bitching on a message board instead of telling him to just shut up SHUT UP right to his face.

*sigh*

― pullapartgirl (pullapartgirl), Monday, 14 November 2005 19:09 (twenty years ago)

At Renee's birthday the other night -- which I went to before Kelsey's party -- I counted SEVEN LAWYERS in the room (including the guest of honor). It was frightening.

― jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 14 November 2005 19:10 (twenty years ago)

It's gonna take a lotta law
To change the way things are.
It's gonna take a lotta law
Or we won't get too far
So if you look in my direction
And we don't see eye to eye,
My heart needs protection and so do I.

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Monday, 14 November 2005 19:12 (twenty years ago)

One of my coworkers talks exclusively about TV, to the point that this morning when she asked if I wanted to order anything from Chipotle I thought she said, "Did you watch it?"

Oh, Jenny jenny jenny. I feel your pain. That's like one of my coworkers saying some famous couple, I can't even remember who, isn't really that wealthy. Yeah, sure, they have McMansions and multiple cars and blah ti blah, but, come ON, they're not really THAT rich. I want to know what THAT rich is.

― Prancing Animals (coco), Monday, 14 November 2005 19:12 (twenty years ago)

Okay, this was kind of funny:

Jackass: I hate when you're talking to a girl in a bar and you think you're doing good and then she says, "My friend really likes you" and the friend is totally, not cute.

Companion: Oh come on, looks aren't everything!

Jackass: They are when you're in a bar!

― pullapartgirl (pullapartgirl), Monday, 14 November 2005 19:15 (twenty years ago)

Here is a fun sight for looking at things: Vintage Postcards.

― pullapartgirl (pullapartgirl), Monday, 14 November 2005 19:16 (twenty years ago)

Haha.

― Jordan (Jordan), Monday, 14 November 2005 19:17 (twenty years ago)

Once again I'm glad I sit in a big room full of editors where barely anyone talks.

― Df'nM (OutDatWay), Monday, 14 November 2005 19:20 (twenty years ago)

amanda, i think that's the only song lyric on ILX i've recognized.

in other news, after asking & hearing about healthy lifestyles, i went out & bought an ace bandage (for the foot) & snaps (for the mouth/tummy). i love snaps.

― kelsey (kelstarry), Monday, 14 November 2005 19:22 (twenty years ago)

amanda, i think that's the only song lyric on ILX i've recognized.

Ha, me too. Neil Young is the best.

― jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 14 November 2005 19:23 (twenty years ago)

One of my best birthdays ever (25) Dan and I went to see Neil Young and the Pretenders opened and it was on my birthday AND the tickets were free!

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Monday, 14 November 2005 19:25 (twenty years ago)

john, i never thought i'd live to hear you say that neil young is "the best" . . . yay!

― kelsey (kelstarry), Monday, 14 November 2005 19:29 (twenty years ago)

What are you talking about? All of those times I annoyed you by singing Neil Young in your car, you don't think that was borne of love?

― jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 14 November 2005 19:31 (twenty years ago)

That never crossed my mind. Your imitations of his singing didn't cultivate that idea, either.

― kelsey (kelstarry), Monday, 14 November 2005 19:34 (twenty years ago)

Snap!

― Jordan (Jordan), Monday, 14 November 2005 19:40 (twenty years ago)

are you saying that b/c i'm eating that?!

― kelsey (kelstarry), Monday, 14 November 2005 19:41 (twenty years ago)

BLOOPER?

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Monday, 14 November 2005 19:41 (twenty years ago)

No, that's the thing: you always thought that I put on the voice to make fun of Neil. But actually, it's just really fun to sing like him, and that alone makes him classic. Also see: Morrissey.

― jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 14 November 2005 19:43 (twenty years ago)

BLOOPER!

Are they ginger snaps? Are there any other kinds of snaps?

― Jordan (Jordan), Monday, 14 November 2005 19:44 (twenty years ago)

black licorice snaps.

― kelsey (kelstarry), Monday, 14 November 2005 19:45 (twenty years ago)

http://altura.speedera.net/ccimg.catalogcity.com/210000/211700/211737/Products/7601110.jpg

― kelsey (kelstarry), Monday, 14 November 2005 19:46 (twenty years ago)

Huh. I've never had those.

Black licorice is the devil's candy though, and not in the good way.

― Jordan (Jordan), Monday, 14 November 2005 19:47 (twenty years ago)

I have to stand up for anise as a perfectly tasty flavor on par with, say, mint, in terms of tastiness.

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Monday, 14 November 2005 19:48 (twenty years ago)

I am, for the record, anti-black licorice and pro-original flavor TWIZZLERS.

― Prancing Animals (coco), Monday, 14 November 2005 19:51 (twenty years ago)

Anise is my nemesis. It's ruined perfectly good pork chops, pad thai, all sorts of things.

I can see how someone could like it, but I just can't deal.

― Jordan (Jordan), Monday, 14 November 2005 19:53 (twenty years ago)

What kind of pad thai are you eating that has anise in it?!

― jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 14 November 2005 19:54 (twenty years ago)

it's been a taste that i've had to cultivate over the years. i haven't always liked it.

on the red licorice front: i prefer red vines. i like how they taste & they lack the hydrogenated oils that twizzlers have.

― kelsey (kelstarry), Monday, 14 November 2005 19:54 (twenty years ago)

I've never had those either but I want some. Black licorice is awesome. My mom gets metric tons of all sorts every Christmas.

I also love Twizzlers. It's like eating cherry-flavored space food. Twizzlers and Diet Coke - better living through chemistry!

― pullapartgirl (pullapartgirl), Monday, 14 November 2005 19:55 (twenty years ago)

Anise? ICKBLEHNOTHXBYE

― Df'nM (OutDatWay), Monday, 14 November 2005 19:56 (twenty years ago)

My mistake, it wasn't pad thai, it was mus-mun curry at a Thai place.

― Jordan (Jordan), Monday, 14 November 2005 19:57 (twenty years ago)

I'm just reminded of the taste of Jager... If that stuff never touches my tongue again it'll be too soon. xpost

― Df'nM (OutDatWay), Monday, 14 November 2005 19:57 (twenty years ago)

When I was a kid I somehow acquired CHOCOLATE LICORICE. I used them as straws to drink milk with before eating them.

― Jordan (Jordan), Monday, 14 November 2005 19:58 (twenty years ago)

they still make it, jordan!

― kelsey (kelstarry), Monday, 14 November 2005 19:59 (twenty years ago)

I would love to get my hands on some, but I haven't seen it in stores in years (not that I've been looking very hard)!

― Jordan (Jordan), Monday, 14 November 2005 19:59 (twenty years ago)

I cannot drink Jagermeister. I used to, but slowly my post-shot recovery time increased to the point that I'm still recovering from the last one I took, two and a half years ago.

― pullapartgirl (pullapartgirl), Monday, 14 November 2005 20:00 (twenty years ago)

p.s. i love all sorts too. and the australian black licorice they sell at trader joe's! the red one is awful, but the black one is beautiful.

next time i know you'll be in town i will buy a bag for you. twizzlers makes it!

― kelsey (kelstarry), Monday, 14 November 2005 20:00 (twenty years ago)

argh. i need to get work done but reading the sarah silverman thread is irritating enough to keep reading it but not irritating enough to royally piss me off. i should just stop before i turn real ugly.

― kelsey (kelstarry), Monday, 14 November 2005 20:06 (twenty years ago)

For some reason, whenever anyone buys the band a tray of shots at our shows it's always Jager.

next time i know you'll be in town i will buy a bag for you. twizzlers makes it!

SWEET.

― Jordan (Jordan), Monday, 14 November 2005 20:07 (twenty years ago)

Heh! The last shot of Jager I had was at my going-away party from the restaurant I worked at in college, right before I moved to Chicago. I was on the couch for two days after that event... I doubt I'll ever touch the stuff again.

― Df'nM (OutDatWay), Monday, 14 November 2005 20:18 (twenty years ago)

A girl at work asked me to make her a jazz mix. It came out kind of interestingly...I was having trouble reconciling my New Orleans gospel and trad-based with the pretty modern stuff, so I ended up splitting it in half:

DOWN SOUTH

1. Careless Love, Preservation Hall Jazz Band
2. Over in Gloryland, Bob French's Original Tuxedo Jazz Band (feat. Sista Teedy, Davell Crawford, John Boutte, etc.)
3. Whoopin' Blues, Bob French's Original Tuxedo Jazz Band (feat. Kid Chocolate)
4. I Got A Woman, New Birth Brass Band (composed by Ray Charles)
5. Pop That Pussy, Rebirth Brass Band feat. (Cheeky Blakk)
6. Do Whatcha Wanna pt. III, Rebirth Brass Band

UP NORTH
7. The Truth, Handsome Boy Modeling School (feat. Roisin from Moloko & J-Live)
8. The Drum Thunder Suite, Art Blakey & the Jazz Messengers
9. Sing a Song of Song, Kenny Garrett
10. Alabama, John Coltrane Quartet
11. I Set My Face to the Hillside, Tortoise
12. Paranoid Android, Brad Mehldau (composed by Radiohead)
13. Flim, The Bad Plus (composed by Aphex Twin)

Not much the 40's - 60's stuff that "jazz" usually brings to mind, but I haven't been listening to a whole ton of that lately. If anyone wants a copy I can mail one or maybe YSI.

― Jordan (Jordan), Monday, 14 November 2005 20:30 (twenty years ago)

I used to not like that "Flim" cover, but now I do.

― jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 14 November 2005 20:37 (twenty years ago)

I reaaally like it.

― Jordan (Jordan), Monday, 14 November 2005 20:41 (twenty years ago)

Should I play the Mega Millions with my office? I've played several times already - $10 a pop. Fortunately, most of those times a coworker paid for my ticket. I think I've paid for my own 3 times... Anyway, the jackpot is like 300something million... argh.

― Prancing Animals (coco), Monday, 14 November 2005 21:00 (twenty years ago)

i don't even know what that is.

― kelsey (kelstarry), Monday, 14 November 2005 21:03 (twenty years ago)

It's just a huge lottery covering a few states. They have drawings twice a week and it's been rolling over for a while now (ie: no jackpot winners).

Of course, in the book I'm reading (about Wanting What you Have and Not Wanting What you Don't Have), it says you shouldn't want to win the lottery. I am not zen yet.

― Prancing Animals (coco), Monday, 14 November 2005 21:04 (twenty years ago)

$10 for a single ticket? Cripes.

― jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 14 November 2005 21:05 (twenty years ago)

Ten dollars! You could buy a meal, or a cd, or like 45 packets of ramen for that.

xpost

― Jordan (Jordan), Monday, 14 November 2005 21:06 (twenty years ago)

Sarah, the chances of them actually winning are like 1 in 400 billion, so I say don't bother.

xpost It's not for a single ticket, they buy up a pack of tickets with everyone's money. But the odds of 10 in 400 billion aren't really statistically much better than 1 in 400 billion, so I still say don't bother.

― n/a (Nick A.), Monday, 14 November 2005 21:07 (twenty years ago)

Aren't they all rich anyway?

― jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 14 November 2005 21:09 (twenty years ago)

Rich enough to essentially throw away $10 every week at least.

― n/a (Nick A.), Monday, 14 November 2005 21:10 (twenty years ago)

Man, I do not understand gambling. Of any kind... lottery, craps, and that god-damned "hold-em." What a bunch of nonsense.

― Df'nM (OutDatWay), Monday, 14 November 2005 21:13 (twenty years ago)

You mean twice a week, Nick. Yeah, it's dumb. I shouldn't do it again.

― Prancing Animals (coco), Monday, 14 November 2005 21:15 (twenty years ago)

I mean, far be it from me to preach about being "good" with money. I'm sure some of the things I spend $ on would make no sense to most people.

― Df'nM (OutDatWay), Monday, 14 November 2005 21:16 (twenty years ago)

I used to spend all of my money on records. Now I spend all of my money on deli sandwiches and comic books.

― Jordan (Jordan), Monday, 14 November 2005 21:18 (twenty years ago)

on the other hand, if $10 helps the dynamic in the office, is fun, then why not? i've thrown away $10 on slots before.

― kelsey (kelstarry), Monday, 14 November 2005 21:19 (twenty years ago)

I like scratch off tickets more than I like mega-millions or power ball tickets or whatever for the same reason that I like video poker more than slot machines - it feels like your chances of winning are at least slightly related to the choices you make in the game.

Also, I always forget to check if I won. I'm probably a millionaire! Also, I think $10 is way too much to spend on a lottery ticket, or a pack of them, but I'm only saying that because I really want a cup of coffee and don't have cash for one right now.

― pullapartgirl (pullapartgirl), Monday, 14 November 2005 21:19 (twenty years ago)

Sarah, just buy your own lottery ticket, like one a week, that way you might still win but you wouldn't have to share or spend as much on tickets.

― n/a (Nick A.), Monday, 14 November 2005 21:20 (twenty years ago)

for what it's worth, i think it's okay to want to win the lottery, to try to win the lottery & especially to think about what you'd do with your life if money were no object. i don't think it's okay to expect to win or to string your dreams up on the lottery clothesline. i think that's when things get icky & weird.

― kelsey (kelstarry), Monday, 14 November 2005 21:23 (twenty years ago)

My dad always says his weekly lottery ticket is his "license to dream." WHAT A DAD THING TO SAY!

― n/a (Nick A.), Monday, 14 November 2005 21:25 (twenty years ago)

Also, the coffee I want to buy is a $4 pumpkin spice latte, which is arguably as frivolous as buying lottery tickets.

― pullapartgirl (pullapartgirl), Monday, 14 November 2005 21:27 (twenty years ago)

$10 you could be spending on really good chocolate or something.

though i used to play the dollar scratch and win tickets from time to time. once on a whim i bought one at a gas station and won $20, and was all excited, so i kept buying them and winning occasionally, until it seemed i was about coming out even in the first place. it's probably more enjoyable to spend it on chocolate. not that i actually eat chocolate lately, but i fantasize about it.

twizzlers are great but i ate them so often in the past year or so that i started to get a little sick of all the artificial flavory taste of them. and some twizzlers are better than others--the pull and peel ones are really gummy and taste like cherry chemicals gone mad. there's some other brand of red licorice that is amazing--i think fannie mae or something, but i've forgotten.

i like black licorice when it's real licorice, it seems like the good stuff i've encountered is usually european.

― Juulia (julesbdules), Monday, 14 November 2005 21:28 (twenty years ago)

Ideally, I would like it if money were no object, but not because I had bajillions of dollars. I would just like to place very little importance on it. It seems like people with a lot of money make just as much as an object if not more than people without it. Like, you get some and still feel a need for more more more.

― Prancing Animals (coco), Monday, 14 November 2005 21:28 (twenty years ago)

http://www.hersheys.com/products/details/images/flavors/pf_twizz_twists_chocolate.gif

― Jordan (Jordan), Monday, 14 November 2005 21:31 (twenty years ago)

i mean it more in the sense of "what would you do with your life if you didn't have to work a crap job just to get by?" i'd take time off for traveling, write a lot & do pottery. right after i paid off my parents house, my grandparents place, leaf's school, etc. etc. etc.
i'd also go back to school without worrying about all the loans i'd accrue. i'd be riskier with what i'd go to school for, too.

you know, stuff like that.

― kelsey (kelstarry), Monday, 14 November 2005 21:33 (twenty years ago)

Yeah, that stuff would be nice. It's funny that whenever I fantasize about winning money, my list always begins with, "Pay back mom, Pay back sister, Pay back Nick, pay off student loans, pay off credit cars, pay off car..."

― Prancing Animals (coco), Monday, 14 November 2005 21:38 (twenty years ago)

I would want a kid. I always worry that I'll never have enough money to care for someone else. I think I'd have enough if I won the mega millions.

― Prancing Animals (coco), Monday, 14 November 2005 21:40 (twenty years ago)

If I won the lottery, I would adopt a couple of kids, maybe. A pair of siblings. Then we could all run the B&B together while Dan writes novels.

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Monday, 14 November 2005 21:42 (twenty years ago)

Sorry if it sounded like I was getting down on playing the lottery or whatever. I don't have a problem with anyone doing it, I just don't understand it well. I too have wondered what it'd be like to have that much cash. My problem really lies with greed and the culture of "spend spend spend" consumerism. And TV poker. That annoys the shit out of me.

― Df'nM (OutDatWay), Monday, 14 November 2005 21:43 (twenty years ago)

I'd pay off Maddie's stuff, then I'd buy my mom a house, then myself a house, then get some nice studio gear and I'd be straight.

― Jordan (Jordan), Monday, 14 November 2005 21:44 (twenty years ago)

Oh, and I would also have a fruit orchard.

I'm a total miser, so I don't like to gamble, but there's no gambling with fruit -- it's a winning endeavor!

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Monday, 14 November 2005 21:44 (twenty years ago)

(Actually farming is always a gamble, isn't it. I take that back.)

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Monday, 14 November 2005 21:45 (twenty years ago)

I'd buy one of those above-ground swimming pools, fill it with sand, and roll it down a mountain into the ocean.

― n/a (Nick A.), Monday, 14 November 2005 21:46 (twenty years ago)

Do you just mean poker that they broadcast on TV?

After paying everything/one off, I would let Nick quit his job. I would also give a decent sum of money to my mom, dad, sisters, and Nick. Then I would plan a big tour for the band, which would include staying in hotels, something most of my friends' bands never did. And we would tour in places I've always wanted to visit, like San Francisco.

― Prancing Animals (coco), Monday, 14 November 2005 21:47 (twenty years ago)

NIck, That's pollution!

― Prancing Animals (coco), Monday, 14 November 2005 21:48 (twenty years ago)

Dan, if you're going to get down on gambling, you're not welcome at this thread. We're all craps & blackjack & if you can't "deal" then we'll have to ask you to leave. It's part of that chicago thing, you see.

kidding.

― kelsey (kelstarry), Monday, 14 November 2005 21:48 (twenty years ago)

Real answer: help pay off Sarah's debts, buy us a nice but unostentatious house, and get the Fall Peel Sessions box set.

― n/a (Nick A.), Monday, 14 November 2005 21:48 (twenty years ago)

Sarah what do you think is already at the bottom of the ocean? SAND.

― n/a (Nick A.), Monday, 14 November 2005 21:49 (twenty years ago)

...of course, that brings up that old piece of advice: "think about what you do with your life if you didn't have to work a crap job and then just do that instead."

This is hard to do with debt, bills, family concerns, etc., but it's also the way you'll end up happiest in the end. One is far more likely to make ends meet if what you're doing makes you happy. Like, I'm doing A-OK economically right now, but I'm bored and unhappy. I liked it better when I had three jobs, was poor and did something I loved everyday (skiing).

Well, sort of.

― giboyeux (skowly), Monday, 14 November 2005 21:50 (twenty years ago)

Where would you want to live? Maybe a single family in Ukranian Village?

― Prancing Animals (coco), Monday, 14 November 2005 21:50 (twenty years ago)

Thank you Sarah, I suddenly feel fortunate to have stayed in hotels on tour and been to San Francisco.

― Jordan (Jordan), Monday, 14 November 2005 21:52 (twenty years ago)

I would keep my job, but not tell them I won the lottery, and just keep coming in but not doing any work at all and be really blatant about it and start acting really weird and see how long it takes them to fire me because I've never been fired, then I would buy up all the other spaces in this office building except for the one where my office is, and leave them empty for a while so they get kind of weirded out about how quiet it is, then I would rent all the other spaces out to the circus for them to rehearse in.

― n/a (Nick A.), Monday, 14 November 2005 21:52 (twenty years ago)

OFFICE SPACE 2: VENGEANCE

― Jordan (Jordan), Monday, 14 November 2005 21:53 (twenty years ago)

I like my job now though. It's a "crap" job that doesn't get much respect, but - let's face it - I'm fairly unambitious in the workplace and enjoy administrative stuff. I am MUCH happier now than I have been in previous jobs of higher responsibility, because my stress levels are so much lower.

On the other hand, I would commit horrible acts to not have to work in food service again. Also, there are lots of jobs I might like more, like writing romantic comedies, having my own little store, or being an indie rockstar.

― Prancing Animals (coco), Monday, 14 November 2005 21:54 (twenty years ago)

...I'd be straight.

Jordan, that's just not something you can buy.

― pullapartgirl (pullapartgirl), Monday, 14 November 2005 21:56 (twenty years ago)

My mom has done a lot of research on gambling as an addiction. She would not be happy to learn that I've already blown $30 on these office lottery pools, especially since I owe her so much money.

― Prancing Animals (coco), Monday, 14 November 2005 21:57 (twenty years ago)

I once brought Kelsey along on the Casino Shuttle from Argyle Street to Hammond, Indiana. I think I won.

I was just delivering a report to be published, and my co-worker who puts the reports online let me listen through her headphones to several tracks on The Best of Jodeci. I spent a minute or two with "Freek 'n You".

― Eazy (Eazy), Monday, 14 November 2005 22:00 (twenty years ago)

If I won the lottery:

I'd be in-house counsel for Worker Justice, Inc., or a similar organization.

As for other things, I'd pay off my loans and set aside enough for Jeff to pay for all his schooling without taking out loans. I'd buy us a condo in a fun neighborhood and get a fancy front-loading washer and dryer. I'd sell the car since we could now afford to take cabs wherever we wanted to go. I'd invest as much money as I could in a retirement account for us and a college fund for future offspring, and in a third account to make the money last as long as possible. I'd also put some aside to take care of my parents when they retire, because I'm an only child and I'm terrified of what I'm going to do when my parents get too old to take care of themselves. I'd give money to my parents and my aunt, and some to Jeff's parents, too.

I would also buy a nice new pair of boots.

Yes, I've thought about this a lot.

― pullapartgirl (pullapartgirl), Monday, 14 November 2005 22:01 (twenty years ago)

i think i'd love to do something flashy . . . like buy everyone in a bar a round of drinks, "whatever you like!"

just because I could.

― kelsey (kelstarry), Monday, 14 November 2005 22:05 (twenty years ago)

Jordan, that's just not something you can buy.

You'd be surprised. I'd totally be gay if the price was right.

― Jordan (Jordan), Monday, 14 November 2005 22:06 (twenty years ago)

Ugh, I can't tell if I'm getting sick, or if my body is still recuperating all the strain I put it through this weekend...

― jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 14 November 2005 22:07 (twenty years ago)

I'm STILL sore from carrying stuff, mainly around the shoulders. So I don't think it would be unusual if you were still recuperating.

― n/a (Nick A.), Monday, 14 November 2005 22:09 (twenty years ago)

My favorite part of my new apartment right now is the BATHTUB. One of the ends is inclined in such a way that you can comfortable rest your head upon it as you take a long, hot bath. Which I did last night after I did laundry.

― jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 14 November 2005 22:11 (twenty years ago)

i have an ace bandage on my foot now & my boss said i looked like a ballerina with one foot wrapped.

― kelsey (kelstarry), Monday, 14 November 2005 22:12 (twenty years ago)

If I won the lottery:

I'd get a custom drumkit made.
I'd find a little island on the coast of Lake Superior, buy it and build a house on it and live there.
I would buy chunks of property, also along the coast of the lake, to prevent rich yuppies from IL like me from buying them up and building McMansions on them.
I would travel throughout South America.

After all that, I'd invest in an alpaca/pot farm.

― Df'nM (OutDatWay), Monday, 14 November 2005 22:15 (twenty years ago)

Haha, I'm listening to my iPod on shuffle, and it just segued from a skronky Captain Beefheart track to a particularly twee Cardigans tune. Love the disparity.

― jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 14 November 2005 22:21 (twenty years ago)

I'm pretty sore, too.

Did an alley-cat bike race on Saturday. Totally fun, except for being made to eat a tea-bag, while gasping for breath and dying of thirst.

xpost that is a good plan, Dan. DAN WITH THE PLAN.

― giboyeux (skowly), Monday, 14 November 2005 22:22 (twenty years ago)

Teabagging on a bike? WTF?

the "if I won the lottery" question thoroughly or honestly, because I can't really think about what I would do with all that money.

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Monday, 14 November 2005 22:26 (twenty years ago)

Please add "I didn't answer the...." to the beginning of that second sentence. As if anyone cares.

But what's this about teabags?

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Monday, 14 November 2005 22:29 (twenty years ago)

Actual tea-bag. Not deez nutz.

Open up the bag and pour the dry tea in. Immediately absorbs all the moisture in your mouth, which is kickass and totally fun! when you're in the middle of a 20+ mile bike race around the city.

― giboyeux (skowly), Monday, 14 November 2005 22:38 (twenty years ago)

Why did someone make you eat a teabag, while on a bike?!

― Jordan (Jordan), Monday, 14 November 2005 22:41 (twenty years ago)

DAN WITH THE PLAN

If I had a dime for every time I've heard this, or a variation on this (Dan the man, with the master plan, etc etc etc) I wouldn't have to dream about winning the lottery!

― Df'nM (OutDatWay), Monday, 14 November 2005 22:43 (twenty years ago)

http://bffg.absenter.org/#3

My results:
Checkpoint 0.5 - threw the chain off my bike
Checkpoint 1 - Two laps around the traffic circle in Logan Square
Checkpoint 2 - Eat a tea bag on the North Ave. beach
Checkpoint 2.5 - Blow a flat riding down Michigan Ave
Checkpoint 3 - Ten pushups in front of the John Hancock Building
Checkpoint 4 - Recover the name of the statue in front of Shedd Aquarium ("Man with fish")
Checkpoint 4.5 - Blow another flat somewhere in Pilsen
Checkpoint 5 - Take a shot of whiskey and Red Bull
Finish - Blow third flat on the way to a party

Fun!

― giboyeux (skowly), Monday, 14 November 2005 22:49 (twenty years ago)

Wow. For a few hours there it looked like I might actually be productive today.

― Df'nM (OutDatWay), Tuesday, 15 November 2005 17:25 (twenty years ago)

...but no more

― Eazy (Eazy), Tuesday, 15 November 2005 17:27 (twenty years ago)

I know. Ha.

― jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 15 November 2005 17:29 (twenty years ago)

I know, seriously. I was actually kicking ass for while.

― giboyeux (skowly), Tuesday, 15 November 2005 17:31 (twenty years ago)

Embarrassingly enough, I was just refreshing the Haloscan comments box on Freaky Trigger.

― jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 15 November 2005 17:32 (twenty years ago)

Hahahaha. I did it a couple times.

― Df'nM (OutDatWay), Tuesday, 15 November 2005 17:33 (twenty years ago)

Hi urrbody.

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Tuesday, 15 November 2005 18:23 (twenty years ago)

I'm bummed. My gf got a job back in MI at M1ch1gan T3ch, where we both went to school. She's probably going to move back in a couple of months because it's something she's wanted for a while. I'm really happy for her, but still sad to have this big uncertainty facing us.

― Df'nM (OutDatWay), Tuesday, 15 November 2005 18:28 (twenty years ago)

Crap! That sucks. I guess this is where you decide how serious you are?

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Tuesday, 15 November 2005 18:30 (twenty years ago)

(not that you have to discuss that here, of course...)

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Tuesday, 15 November 2005 18:30 (twenty years ago)

One thing's for sure, there's gonna be some big talkin'.

― Df'nM (OutDatWay), Tuesday, 15 November 2005 18:32 (twenty years ago)

Where's Kelsey? She would be a good person to commiserate with.

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Tuesday, 15 November 2005 18:33 (twenty years ago)

i'm here. and doing the long distance thing, dan. my boyfriend lives in minneapolis though, not michigan.

― kelsey (kelstarry), Tuesday, 15 November 2005 18:47 (twenty years ago)

Yeah, I had kinda figured that out from past posts.

How do you rationalize, or build up the faith necessary to pull off a long-distance thing?

― Df'nM (OutDatWay), Tuesday, 15 November 2005 18:51 (twenty years ago)

Eh... I sound like a logged-out thread starter. I'm going to shut up and brood about this for a while.

― Df'nM (OutDatWay), Tuesday, 15 November 2005 18:54 (twenty years ago)

well, he's going to law school & even though he was offered a full ride at a lesser school here, he got accepted to a top 20 school in minnesota. so, we rationalized that we'd both be happy in minnesota (with the agreement that I'd move there eventually--looks like march or april will be the earliest). i don't know. we just talked about it a lot. i wanted him to go to the best school he could. so far, it's had high & lows. the lows are mostly that you never feel as close over the phone. the highs are that certain aspects of your relationship become closer . . . and when you do see one another, all the good stuff is crammed in a short time so when you see each other, it's usually pretty carefree & happy. we sometimes have "remote dates" where we rent the same movie & count to three & press play at the same time. those are kinda fun.

How serious are you about each other? How do you feel about her? I guess I honestly think that if you're both in a similar place of wanting to be in it for the long(er) haul, it's easier to work though the distance. But if you're not sure, then this might be a blessing in disguise. This could be a time where you realize how much you care for one another. How do you feel about michigan?

― kelsey (kelstarry), Tuesday, 15 November 2005 18:57 (twenty years ago)

http://www.tvsquad.com/images/2005/07/michiganjfrog.jpg

― jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 15 November 2005 18:59 (twenty years ago)

― Df'nM (OutDatWay), Tuesday, 15 November 2005 19:02 (twenty years ago)

Whoa I

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Tuesday, 15 November 2005 19:03 (twenty years ago)

What's going on?

― kelsey (kelstarry), Tuesday, 15 November 2005 19:04 (twenty years ago)

Shit, that should have said:

I *heart* MI, but fuck that fucking frog.

(seriously, though, thanks for the pic... thinking of the Chappelle's show and that quote brightened me up a bit.)

Thanks for the kind advice, K.

Hmmm... seems that "less-than sign + 3 = heart" doesn't work any more... took out my whole post after it.

― Df'nM (OutDatWay), Tuesday, 15 November 2005 19:04 (twenty years ago)

I was pretending to sing a Temptations song.

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Tuesday, 15 November 2005 19:05 (twenty years ago)

Like a jerk.

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Tuesday, 15 November 2005 19:05 (twenty years ago)

I got that too... was teh funny :)

― Df'nM (OutDatWay), Tuesday, 15 November 2005 19:06 (twenty years ago)

(Not just 'How do you feel about Michigan?', but 'How do you feel about the U.P.'?)

― Eazy (Eazy), Tuesday, 15 November 2005 19:08 (twenty years ago)

I'm tellin' ya . . . unless it's a neil young song, I am lost.

― kelsey (kelstarry), Tuesday, 15 November 2005 19:11 (twenty years ago)

Heh. I'm planning on getting a tattoo of it either on my forarm or across my shoulders.

― Df'nM (OutDatWay), Tuesday, 15 November 2005 19:11 (twenty years ago)

So, pretty good I guess (it's home, just not ready to head back there yet.)

― Df'nM (OutDatWay), Tuesday, 15 November 2005 19:12 (twenty years ago)

How old/young are ye, Dan?

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Tuesday, 15 November 2005 19:15 (twenty years ago)

by the way, all things considered, i think you're at one of those difficult crossroads. but, it is a crossroads to get together & have a beer over! so we should (everyone, really) do that sometime. i tend to enjoy having a beer over eating food i shouldn't (like onion rings), so I am partial to that (though I should not be since the holidays are a-comin' . . . )

― kelsey (kelstarry), Tuesday, 15 November 2005 19:17 (twenty years ago)

27, to be 28 in Feb..

I like meeting up for beers. Aside: I went to the Underbar for the first time last night (some friends just moved in behind the place) and it was pretty cool.

― Df'nM (OutDatWay), Tuesday, 15 November 2005 19:33 (twenty years ago)

where's that? I'm partial to the Edgewater Tavern because:
1. They have at least three Rouge beers on tap (& usually one is on special for $3)
2. Their onion rings are great
3. It's near my house

― kelsey (kelstarry), Tuesday, 15 November 2005 19:35 (twenty years ago)

It's on (under) the Western overpass between Belmont and School (I think) street. Just up a ways from the Viaduct Theatre. They have 3 Floyd's on tap, but no onion rings.

― Df'nM (OutDatWay), Tuesday, 15 November 2005 19:38 (twenty years ago)

My friend Patience (yes that is her real name) went to Michigan Tech in Bio for her MS and boy howdy can she could tell you stories about the UP. #1 is live close enough to campus because there's no way you can shovel 5-6 feet of snow to even get to the car from Nov-March.

― jocelyn (Jocelyn), Tuesday, 15 November 2005 19:38 (twenty years ago)

Sorry I didn't catch the fact that you lived there already. My reading compehension skills are sucktastic today.

― jocelyn (Jocelyn), Tuesday, 15 November 2005 19:39 (twenty years ago)

Hahaha... I have a theory that shoveling snow instills that great upper-Midwestern work ethic. Or maybe just back pain.

― Df'nM (OutDatWay), Tuesday, 15 November 2005 19:39 (twenty years ago)

Drinking beer while eating fried foods is the height of decadence.

― Jordan (Jordan), Tuesday, 15 November 2005 19:56 (twenty years ago)

I would add "in my pajamas" to that.

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Tuesday, 15 November 2005 19:58 (twenty years ago)

You wear your pajamas to bars?

― Jordan (Jordan), Tuesday, 15 November 2005 20:00 (twenty years ago)

I would add "and recieving oral sex" as well. Perhaps "on top of a pile of money."

― Df'nM (OutDatWay), Tuesday, 15 November 2005 20:01 (twenty years ago)

No, but I would rather be at home in my jammers than in a bar.

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Tuesday, 15 November 2005 20:04 (twenty years ago)

I like drinking at home, but there's a ritualistic appeal to going to a bar, ordering a beer and sitting across from someone. I like quiet bars.

― Jordan (Jordan), Tuesday, 15 November 2005 20:23 (twenty years ago)

Yes. I agree.

― jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 15 November 2005 20:25 (twenty years ago)

The only time I drink at home anymore is when I come back from a bar shit drunk and want to continue.

― Jeff-Beetle (Jeff), Tuesday, 15 November 2005 20:28 (twenty years ago)

Yeah, I did a little of that the other night. Except I wasn't quite to shit drunk yet, just had the taste for more. By the time I went to bed I may have been piss drunk, I'm not sure.

― Df'nM (OutDatWay), Tuesday, 15 November 2005 20:32 (twenty years ago)

I drink at home, um, a lot.

― Jordan (Jordan), Tuesday, 15 November 2005 20:39 (twenty years ago)

Last night I went to a play opening in Evanston with two old friends, and we went out to eat afterwards and all I cared about was going somewhere a) where we could hear each other and b) that wasn't going to close. And that's pretty much my criteria for bars, too. I love quiet bars. I love the Hopleaf at 5:30 p.m.

Manda, I will get you a deep-fryer for Christmas so that you can indulge yourself in your jams.

― Eazy (Eazy), Tuesday, 15 November 2005 20:41 (twenty years ago)

(And the Mexican place in Evanston where we ended up was so f'n good and so empty, and the fajitas sizzled like a basket of snakes.)

― Eazy (Eazy), Tuesday, 15 November 2005 20:44 (twenty years ago)

I was just startled by a cardboard, life-sized Ornaldo Bloomps standing in a darkened office.

I HATE YOU, BLOOMPS.

― Jordan (Jordan), Tuesday, 15 November 2005 20:49 (twenty years ago)

Ahhhh. I used to have a fryer. I bought one when I was 12 or 13. I thought for sure I would make tons of fries and donuts in it. I did for a while. I'm just a homebody, that's all. A cheap one.

I think that's why I had so much fun at the party on Saturday. We were at a home and it was quiet and not smoky and I could hear and talk. It was fun.

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Tuesday, 15 November 2005 20:50 (twenty years ago)

We've got a tiny deep fryer, but we only use it for beignets. And on one glorious occasion, giant double-battered shrimp for po' boys.

― Jordan (Jordan), Tuesday, 15 November 2005 20:52 (twenty years ago)

MOVE TO NEW ORLEANS ALREADY, BRASS BAND FAN.

― jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 15 November 2005 20:56 (twenty years ago)

Is it bad that I want to, but not, uh, right now?

― Jordan (Jordan), Tuesday, 15 November 2005 20:57 (twenty years ago)

Oh right. That.

― jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 15 November 2005 20:58 (twenty years ago)

I'm going down in a few months, though, and getting married there sometime.

― Jordan (Jordan), Tuesday, 15 November 2005 20:59 (twenty years ago)

Is it the Legolas cut-out? My friend had one of those and it used to scare the beejeezus out of me, alone in the corner of the dark spare room. But sometimes we would put on Frank Sinatra and dance with it, to amuse people.

― jocelyn (Jocelyn), Tuesday, 15 November 2005 21:00 (twenty years ago)

Haha, yes, that's the one.

I may print out the ORNALDO BLOOMPS FOR PRESIDETN image and paste it to the cutout.

― Jordan (Jordan), Tuesday, 15 November 2005 21:19 (twenty years ago)

Hey, ILX is back up.

― pullapartgirl (pullapartgirl), Tuesday, 15 November 2005 21:22 (twenty years ago)

In case none of you noticed.

― pullapartgirl (pullapartgirl), Tuesday, 15 November 2005 21:22 (twenty years ago)

Oh, sweet.

― Jordan (Jordan), Tuesday, 15 November 2005 21:26 (twenty years ago)

Awesome, I love ILX.

― jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 15 November 2005 21:32 (twenty years ago)

Is that meta-love?

― Df'nM (OutDatWay), Tuesday, 15 November 2005 21:34 (twenty years ago)

You're twisting my melon, man.

― pullapartgirl (pullapartgirl), Tuesday, 15 November 2005 21:35 (twenty years ago)

He's gonna step on you again.

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Tuesday, 15 November 2005 21:39 (twenty years ago)

I am 20 minutes away from stalking Bob Pollard. That's right.

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Tuesday, 15 November 2005 21:40 (twenty years ago)

Oh shit that's tonight! I forgot!!!!

Amanda, I will look for you in the book store, but I might not make it there.

― pullapartgirl (pullapartgirl), Tuesday, 15 November 2005 21:44 (twenty years ago)

The guy there told me that it's downstairs, but I don't know where...I just know that I'm going early and I'm looking around, in case he's in the children's book section and I can ask him questions there instead of in front of a bunch of people. I know it's dumb, but I'm nervous. I feel like a linguistics gangsta.

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Tuesday, 15 November 2005 21:46 (twenty years ago)

Make sure to call him "bitch" so he knows you're tough & not messin' around.

― kelsey (kelstarry), Tuesday, 15 November 2005 21:52 (twenty years ago)

see you tomorrow!

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Tuesday, 15 November 2005 21:59 (twenty years ago)

Bye!

― Prancing Animals (coco), Tuesday, 15 November 2005 22:18 (twenty years ago)

Does this storm blowing over mean we can start a new thread, already? This one is ridiculous. But I'll tell you a secret: I'm well and truly tired of Chicago album covers.

― Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 03:44 (twenty years ago)

Chicago: The Dark Side of the Moon

― Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 03:46 (twenty years ago)

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