"The Blair Witch Project": Six Years Later, Classic or Dud?

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Six years (!!!) after its release, is there really no thread for this hotly contested film? I know the search function is a little farked up these days, but I only came across one tenuously-related thread (about the sequel) on ILE and nothing on I Love Film. In any case, given the season, I thought I'd exhume this little movie that could.

What say you? Coven Classic or Demonic Dud?

Alex in NYC (vassifer), Saturday, 29 October 2005 05:05 (twenty years ago)

classic - i haven't seen it since it opened in atlanta but it was a real fun night. i doubt it holds up at all, i could care less. cheap little horror flix that are also cheap little art flix and come out of nowhere and make a shitton of money and confuse the hell out of hollywood if only for a second are always classic, even if this ain't no night of the living dead or texas chainsaw massacre.

j blount (papa la bas), Saturday, 29 October 2005 05:15 (twenty years ago)

if i remember correctly, the actors above were given a certain percentage of the profits as well (probably assuming it would be in the neighborhood of 50k) so I think they ended up making millions on it.

i saw it once, it was alright! nothing amazing, but a good fun night at the movie theater, yep.

gear (gear), Saturday, 29 October 2005 05:31 (twenty years ago)

I remember reading about it early on and really being captivated by the concept. As a result I saw it fairly soon after its release (before the gargantuan snowball of hype threatened to crush all in its path) and didn't listen or read any reviews so I could experience it "cold," so to speak.

Given its threadbare budget, I'm of the mindset that it's hugely effective in the creep-out department (that which you don't see is always scarier than any shitty special effect. Consider the original version of "The Haunting" for evidence of same). I saw during the middle of a sunny day in a bustling urban environment, and was still completely creeped out.

Haven't watched it recently (though brought the DVD to work this evening, anticipating a slow evening). May still watch it just to see if it will creep me out (which, during an overnight shift, would make it sort've a dumb thing to do).

Also for the Davey-conquering-Goliath reasons Blount mentioned, I'd say CLASSIC across the board.

Alex in NYC (vassifer), Saturday, 29 October 2005 05:36 (twenty years ago)

this is the worst fim ever

captain crunchyfarts, Saturday, 29 October 2005 05:37 (twenty years ago)

I saw it in a big mainstream movie theater, which was packed because of the hype, and after that jarring sudden ending I remember this rising murmur of discontentment and confusion. People were expecting some kind of big pay-off and explanation and everything, but nope just...click, blackness.

And they had a cool Web site.

gypsy mothra (gypsy mothra), Saturday, 29 October 2005 05:38 (twenty years ago)

Yeah, they did. I remember loving that slowly creeping grinding sound that seems to murmur just below the surface for most of the film (dubbed "The Cellar" on the soundtrack album).

Alex in NYC (vassifer), Saturday, 29 October 2005 05:40 (twenty years ago)

I remember reading about it early on and really being captivated by the concept. As a result I saw it fairly soon after its release (before the gargantuan snowball of hype threatened to crush all in its path) and didn't listen or read any reviews so I could experience it "cold," so to speak.

Given its threadbare budget, I'm of the mindset that it's hugely effective in the creep-out department (that which you don't see is always scarier than any shitty special effect. Consider the original version of "The Haunting" for evidence of same). I saw during the middle of a sunny day in a bustling urban environment, and was still completely creeped out.


this is almost my exact experience, except all I knew of it was a cryptic newspaper ad. I went in the middle of the day, sitting in an almost empty theater and it creeped me out for 2 days. I can't say anything to people who hated it after it got hyped, I'm sure I would've hated it the same way, shame we can't trade experiences.

tremendoid (tremendoid), Saturday, 29 October 2005 05:50 (twenty years ago)

in a way it's weird it's (sorta) pre-reality tv craze cuz it definitely depends on audience familiarity and comfort with rough amateur shot plotless video to work. i knew very little about it before seeing it - i knew they'd concocted a fake urban legend which i loved (i'm a big fan of hoaxes) and that it 'depended on the magic of imagination' and i think i may have read that voice 'omg scariest movie ever wtf' cover story thing but i went in fairly blind. it was a packed house though and two screens i think (only theater in atlanta, or georgia obv, showing it at first though) and definite buzz in the crowd, this is sorta corny/obvious but in a weird way it reminded me more of standing in line for like the local mason's haunted house or something more than being in line for a movie. that last shot had me unnerved the whold ride back.

j blount (papa la bas), Saturday, 29 October 2005 06:00 (twenty years ago)

it scared the shit out of me, even tho i thought the first 2/3rds were pretty boring. i think it was about 8 out of 10 ppl that i knew were scared to 1 not scared (or said they weren't) to 1 made motion sick by the shaky cameras.

of people that weren't scared there was always someone who was too dumm or inattentive to pick up all the little details that come out here and there in the beginning and so were immune ("i didn't get it, why were they just staring at the wall at the end?" "uh remember the nutty lady who said that would happen when they were gonna die?" "ohhh ok wow that is creepy")

geoff (gcannon), Saturday, 29 October 2005 06:01 (twenty years ago)

I love right at the end when you realize that someone else is holding the camera. That climax is a power-of-the-gaze theorist's wet dream.

gypsy mothra (gypsy mothra), Saturday, 29 October 2005 06:04 (twenty years ago)

I love right at the end when you realize that someone else is holding the camera.

Huh? No, it's Heather holding the camera. She comes down the stairs and sees Mike in the corner (as foretold by one of the interview subjects earlier in the film), and is -- presumably -- attacked from behind. She drops the camera.

Or that's how I interpretted it.

Alex in NYC (vassifer), Saturday, 29 October 2005 06:20 (twenty years ago)

Yeah, I was thinking there were two cameras, but I guess it's just the one. I'm just remembering the closing shot, which is after she drops the camera.

gypsy mothra (gypsy mothra), Saturday, 29 October 2005 06:23 (twenty years ago)

Yeah, it's definitely Heather holding the camera. I think she realizes he's dead (or about to die) and gets attacked from the back.

I ordered it directly from Amazon because I couldn't wait to see it. (If you want to catch it in a cinema here, you have to wait three centuries.) I saw it in on a dark evening all alone in a big house. After the film had ended I thought I could just stand up and go to bed. I stayed away for another two hours.... sitting on the couch unable to move. I was that scared. A year after that I saw it again and I loved it as much but in a different way. I could see some things better , especially the ending was very different because somehow, in my anxiety, I had missed a lot. So yeah definitely CLASSIC. The follow-up was so horrendous, just a ride of laughter and giggles and WTFness.

nathalie, a bum like you (stevie nixed), Saturday, 29 October 2005 06:24 (twenty years ago)

Have any of those 3 actors ever been in anything else at all? Or did they all retire on their Blair Witch money?

gypsy mothra (gypsy mothra), Saturday, 29 October 2005 06:27 (twenty years ago)

They were on an MTV awards show once, does that count? ;-)

I think one of the guys who made the film died in a plane crash or something? I think it was the photography guy or something.

nathalie, a bum like you (stevie nixed), Saturday, 29 October 2005 06:29 (twenty years ago)

the one dude with the beard had a small role in U-571 or whatever that fucked up sub movie was and the girl had a tiny role as a waitress in some romcom like a year later.

j blount (papa la bas), Saturday, 29 October 2005 06:32 (twenty years ago)

Have any of those 3 actors ever been in anything else at all? Or did they all retire on their Blair Witch money?

Heather was in some workaday romantic comedy shortlly thereafter, but nothing really came of it.

Alex in NYC (vassifer), Saturday, 29 October 2005 06:33 (twenty years ago)

according to the IMDb, each actor was paid $1,000 to act in the film. because of the contract/box office, they made $4 million apiece.

gear (gear), Saturday, 29 October 2005 06:53 (twenty years ago)

goddamn

Alex in NYC (vassifer), Saturday, 29 October 2005 07:07 (twenty years ago)

too bad they died : (

gear (gear), Saturday, 29 October 2005 07:08 (twenty years ago)

Yeah, I was thinking there were two cameras, but I guess it's just the one. I'm just remembering the closing shot, which is after she drops the camera.

I'm remembering that final scene and getting the shivers just reading this ...

I also saw it before the uberhype kicked in (I think it was on opening night). A good friend is a big horror movie buff so I went with him. I didn't see it a second time until a couple of years later, and it felt significantly less suspenseful when I already knew what was going to happen. With the exception of the final 5-10 minutes, of course.

The follow-up was so horrendous, just a ride of laughter and giggles and WTFness.

I think the original directors/creators weren't involved with the making of the follow-up.

MindInRewind (Barry Bruner), Saturday, 29 October 2005 07:10 (twenty years ago)

this guy I went to college with had a review blurb on the Blair Witch 2 poster which cried out, "Best sequel ever!"

gear (gear), Saturday, 29 October 2005 07:14 (twenty years ago)

I think the original directors/creators weren't involved with the making of the follow-up.

Yeah, they weren't involved at all.

nathalie, a bum like you (stevie nixed), Saturday, 29 October 2005 07:19 (twenty years ago)

this thread has me nostalgic in the weirdest way

j blount (papa la bas), Saturday, 29 October 2005 07:27 (twenty years ago)

Classic, only when coupled with the website/creepyfuck 'this really happened/these woods be fucked up' viral marketing campaign.

Mike Stuchbery (Mike Stuchbery), Saturday, 29 October 2005 09:20 (twenty years ago)

Also, I really want to play the video games, I've been looking everywhere for them.

Mike Stuchbery (Mike Stuchbery), Saturday, 29 October 2005 09:24 (twenty years ago)

Blair Witch Project was and is pure shit.

Bisexual Phag, Saturday, 29 October 2005 09:29 (twenty years ago)

Completely classic. As an example of taking a very simple idea to it's logical extreme, it's unsurpassed. The fact that the cast were genuinely miserable and terrified throughout only adds to the tension. Apparently Heather even had a knife with her as she was uncomfortable sharing a tent with two strange men.

Whenever I watch the film again, I always catch myself thinking: "Oh, I really hope they make it out of there." And then I realise.

Best watched in tandem with the "Curse Of The Blair Witch" mockumentary, which sets everything up perfectly and fills in lots of background detail only touched on briefly in the film.

Confusingly, not only are there several different edits of the film (the VHS was different to the DVD, for example), but they also shot interviews with the parents of the missing students, only shown in tantalising glimpses in the teaser trailers. "Do you believe the occult may be involved in the disappearance of your son?"

Haven't seen the two guys in anything since, but Heather was in a Sci-Fi Channel miniseries called "Taken" about two years ago, which was quite a big thing at the time. I think she killed Max Headroom in it.

Has anyone seen the "rival" movie, "The Last Broadcast"? It's awful.

Philip Alderman (Phil A), Saturday, 29 October 2005 10:46 (twenty years ago)

Has anyone seen the "rival" movie, "The Last Broadcast"? It's awful.

Yeah, it's truly dreadful.

Alex in NYC (vassifer), Saturday, 29 October 2005 11:00 (twenty years ago)

Completely classic. As an example of taking a very simple idea to it's logical extreme, it's unsurpassed.

Scientologist crap.

Freddie (freddie), Saturday, 29 October 2005 11:04 (twenty years ago)

Scientologist crap.

What the fuck is that supposed to mean?

Philip Alderman (Phil A), Saturday, 29 October 2005 11:17 (twenty years ago)

it was a neat experiment that was cool at the time. best marketing campaign for a movie ever!

latebloomer (latebloomer), Saturday, 29 October 2005 11:53 (twenty years ago)

Looking back on all the Blair With Project brouhaha..., although that was a post-BW thread as well. Anyway, dud then, dud now.

Mädchen (Madchen), Saturday, 29 October 2005 12:08 (twenty years ago)

Hey! :-(

Very much enjoyed it and yeah, was honestly creeped out by the ending and couldn't readily get to sleep that night of first watching the day got wide release. I've only rewatched it a couple of times since -- I like the creators' commentary on the DVD, they're so casual and funny about it it's a nice contrast!

It's a classic horror film in that it sets up all the dominoes just to knock them over (the detail about the kids facing the corner has, as noted, maximum payoff -- when my theater audience saw Mike standing there in the corner, there was an audible groan of 'oh fuck...' throughout the theater) and that common sense has to be set aside a bit to make it work. As Mr. Blount notes, the whole idea of the hoaxed urban legend is a great touch -- there was a pretty good comic book tie-in with the film that illustrated each of the previous points in the legend via different illustrators rather than doing an adaptation of the story of the film, and the Rustin Parr sequence in particular was strikingly well done. The tie-in fake documentary, with the 'archival' footage of Parr and the seventies "In Search Of..." style bit with the one 'witch,' was pretty slick.

The story itself wouldn't work nowadays for a key reason:

"Hey, we're lost."

"Oh that's easy, I'll just call the police on my cell and then IM a friend of mine."

"Okay thanks."

Ned Raggett (Ned), Saturday, 29 October 2005 13:28 (twenty years ago)

And the dudes behind the film are still going:

http://www.haxan.com/

They've made the main site into a group blog of sorts that they update as they do. I think they know lightning will never exactly strike twice again so they just keep on keeping on.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Saturday, 29 October 2005 13:30 (twenty years ago)

this thread has me nostalgic in the weirdest way

Hehehe, it DID come out in 1999. Clinton's sunset years, pre-9/11, lots of dotcom money in the air, rah rah rah.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Saturday, 29 October 2005 13:36 (twenty years ago)

The story itself wouldn't work nowadays for a key reason:

"Hey, we're lost."

"Oh that's easy, I'll just call the police on my cell and then IM a friend of mine."

"Okay thanks."

The only thing this would really effect is the is-it-hillbillies-or-is-it-a-witch issue. Expect 'wireless reception is down' to become the 'the phone lines are down' of 21st C horror movies.

Austin Still (Austin, Still), Saturday, 29 October 2005 13:51 (twenty years ago)

the movie took place in 1994, so they could always use that route! all horor movies will now take place before 1999!

latebloomer (latebloomer), Saturday, 29 October 2005 13:54 (twenty years ago)

and actually "i can't get any reception" is far more believable than "the phone lines are down". i can probably count the number of times my landline has gone down on two fingers.

strongo hulkington's ghost (dubplatestyle), Saturday, 29 October 2005 13:56 (twenty years ago)

MAN I LOVE HORROR MOVIES

strongo hulkington's ghost (dubplatestyle), Saturday, 29 October 2005 13:56 (twenty years ago)

Heh.

I'm just saying - modern technology going all haywire and useless is a very very old trope in spooky stories.

Austin Still (Austin, Still), Saturday, 29 October 2005 13:57 (twenty years ago)

too bad they died : (

Ha!

Damn, I'd completely forgotten about this film. I fucking loved it when it came out and I think I may just buy the DVD right now this second.

Why's the sequal so universally derided? I've never seen it, having decided not to bother when I found out it had no real connection to the original - is it reall so shit?

xpost - yeah I was gonna say, the film's set in a pre-cellphone world isn't it?

CharlieNo4 (Charlie), Saturday, 29 October 2005 13:59 (twenty years ago)

Classic for emphasizing the collective aspect of movie going, rather than the usual antagonistic audience components. That is to say, people lined up to be scared together and focused on the film instead of cell phones, laughing, popcorn and other distractions. That doesn't happen that often, and explains what made it a phenomenon as opposed to just another hit movie.

Also classic: low-budget and black and white.

Also also classic: sending people out to the lobby to vomit, the first time that's really happened en masse since "Husbands and Wives" yet before "Dancer in the Dark."

Not so classic: the sequel is a piece of shit, and the sole glaring stain on Joe Berlinger's otherwise impeccable documentary resume.

Josh in Chicago (Josh in Chicago), Saturday, 29 October 2005 14:01 (twenty years ago)

Why's the sequal so universally derided? I've never seen it, having decided not to bother when I found out it had no real connection to the original - is it reall so shit?

http://kimmydirector.tripod.com/sitebuildercontent/sitebuilderpictures/b17.jpg

Do I need to add anything more?

nathalie, a bum like you (stevie nixed), Saturday, 29 October 2005 14:15 (twenty years ago)

I saw it opening night at the 4ngelica. The movie effin' blew. I wanted to axe each one of them, they were so goddamn annoying. The website was a hundred times better/creepier.

Je4nn3 ƒur¥ (Je4nne Fury), Saturday, 29 October 2005 14:17 (twenty years ago)

I wanted to axe each one of them

don't waste yer energy, they die anyway.

nathalie, a bum like you (stevie nixed), Saturday, 29 October 2005 14:24 (twenty years ago)

I was terribly disappointed, except for the last scene which was genuinely creepy. The rest of it wasn't scary at all - oooh, rustlin' in the bushes! The Sci-Fi Channel faux-documentary promo was actually scarier.

Blair Witch 2: Book of Shadows was much better.

Are You Nomar? (miloaukerman), Saturday, 29 October 2005 14:30 (twenty years ago)

if by 'much better' you mean 'much worse', then OTM!

latebloomer (latebloomer), Saturday, 29 October 2005 14:34 (twenty years ago)

I saw it the day it came out and loved it. laughed through the whole thing. american gold. then embarrassed myself when we walked out of the theatre by saying too loudly 'that last scene was great but why was that guy peeing in the corner?'

sunny successor (he hates my guts, we had a fight) (katharine), Saturday, 29 October 2005 14:49 (twenty years ago)

i remember the website, and clicking thru the little promo vids they had. creepy even when you were watching all the stuff in a well-lit university computer lab.

kingfish orange creamsicle (kingfish 2.0), Saturday, 29 October 2005 14:57 (twenty years ago)

does anyone remember the tie-in soundtrack that was supposed to be a mixtape found in Josh's belongings? roffle!

latebloomer (latebloomer), Saturday, 29 October 2005 15:08 (twenty years ago)

Yeah! It was supposed to be the tape left in Josh's abandoned car. It had PiL on it, if I remember rightly.

Philip Alderman (Phil A), Saturday, 29 October 2005 15:38 (twenty years ago)

I saw it twice the first weekend it was out. Not because I was dying to, just cuz friends were going to see it - something to do. Effective both times. The Josh dude is from State College! The actress gave the only respectable performance in that Boys And Girls movie. Classic.

blount otm re: nostalgia.

miccio (miccio), Saturday, 29 October 2005 16:02 (twenty years ago)

those ads for The Minus Man before it were an interminable dud, though. The movie ain't half bad, but christ that was a dumb way to promote it. It's a shame Artisan totally fucked up the opportunities BWP gave them.

miccio (miccio), Saturday, 29 October 2005 16:03 (twenty years ago)

HOW CAN YOU GUYS SAY THE SEQUEL WAS SHIT/??? IT WAS SOOOOOO GOOD

Homosexual II (Homosexual II), Saturday, 29 October 2005 17:45 (twenty years ago)

Easy: it was SHIT. Actually I take it back. It was a horrendous pile of stinking poopoo.

nathalie, a bum like you (stevie nixed), Saturday, 29 October 2005 17:55 (twenty years ago)

BWP2 is one of those films whose reputation stems entirely from intitial critical reception. Most people don't even need to have seen it in order to hate it.

Are You Nomar? (miloaukerman), Saturday, 29 October 2005 18:00 (twenty years ago)

BWP2 is shite but not half as bad as, say, I Know What You Did Last Summer 2.

But the original: CLASSIC!! I think it works extremely well if you didn't know it was a hoax. I watched it with my siblings at home late one night on a pirated copy of the movie MONTHS before it got released anywhere so we didn't know anything about the big internet viral marketing campaign and really, honestly, thought it was real. Creeped the shit out of us and we all ended up sleeping in the living room instead of going back to our own rooms.

Thank god for the late 90s south-east asian pirated VCDs boom but dud for the massive, massive disappointment that came with knowing it was a hoax later.

Roz (Roz), Saturday, 29 October 2005 18:05 (twenty years ago)

i remember my friend excusing himself to the bathroom to puke and the fact that my parents' backyard looked like the blair witch woods, which was a little creepy. for the most part, i didn't like the movie because the theatre was so packed we had to sit really close and that did not help the shaky cam induced nausea at all. in fact, i think i'm getting a bit nauseous just reading this thread.

tehresa (tehresa), Saturday, 29 October 2005 18:17 (twenty years ago)

The woods have always been and will always be scary. Classic.

rogermexico (rogermexico), Saturday, 29 October 2005 18:22 (twenty years ago)

Classic. It took me 2 minutes for the full meaning of that closing scene to click in and when it did I was freaked out for the rest of the night. I remember being impressed that there were all these moments with nothing but a virtually black screen and yet we were all straining to see something. What makes the first 2 thirds work is the way the rumours at the beginning have you looking for things in the corner of the shots, wondering if you're going to see something that the characters don't notice. The description of the witch covered in horse hair is creepy as fuck. Maybe a second viewing would reveal a bunch of flaws but who cares? Any film that contains a scene so memorable that it's instantly recognisable when parodied by every half-arsed sketch show ever must do something right.

Patchouli Clark (noodle vague), Saturday, 29 October 2005 18:47 (twenty years ago)

I remember reading about it early on and really being captivated by the concept. As a result I saw it fairly soon after its release (before the gargantuan snowball of hype threatened to crush all in its path) and didn't listen or read any reviews so I could experience it "cold," so to speak.

yeah this was pretty much my experience! although i gotta say the movie itself left me pretty cold too. love the idea but i was not nuts about the execution... or maybe i just didn't like the actors or something?

s1ocki (slutsky), Saturday, 29 October 2005 19:02 (twenty years ago)

I remember being intrigued about this and totally wanted to see it then before I could BAM HYPE HYPE HYPE YO DUDE THIS MOVIE IS GONNA BE SO GREAT YOU SHOULD TOTALLY SEE IT BLAH and so I never saw it. (The same thing happened with Good Will Hunting, actually.)

Raymond Cummings (Raymond Cummings), Saturday, 29 October 2005 19:04 (twenty years ago)

Yeah, but Good Will Hunting is shit.

Patchouli Clark (noodle vague), Saturday, 29 October 2005 19:07 (twenty years ago)

I wouldn't know!

Raymond Cummings (Raymond Cummings), Saturday, 29 October 2005 19:08 (twenty years ago)

I went to see this at a preview screening at my college, maybe 6 months or so before it came out. At the time the only thing I knew about it was that it was a documentary... so the marketing must have worked. Anyway me, my friend, and pretty much the entire audience were completely creeped out throughout. I kept going back and forth trying to decide if it was real or not.
Seeing it again a couple of years later made me wonder how I ever believed that. So though I can't call it a classic, it was good for a one-off, unique moviegoing experience and less so as a brief pop-cultural phenomenon.

Sparkle Motion's Rising Force, Saturday, 29 October 2005 20:58 (twenty years ago)

classic. I saw it cold too. One of the closest movie approximations to an HP Lovecraft story ever made.

-rainbow bum- (-rainbow bum-), Saturday, 29 October 2005 21:34 (twenty years ago)

same...when I saw it, a friend of mine who was in NYU film school had a copy of it on VHS, this was like, before they even knew it was coming out? He was like, everyone's trading this tape, it's some sort of documentary or horror film or something, I'm not sure. I watched it in my living room, in the pitch black darkness, with like 3 or 4 other people. Lauren P. was there, and it totally destroyed us, we were all scared shitless. I couldn't imagine what it would be like seeing it in a big movie theater with a crowd of people months after the hype and the website and all of that, but the way we saw it was just devastating.

Dan Selzer (Dan Selzer), Saturday, 29 October 2005 21:49 (twenty years ago)

It needed to be slower and more ominous in order to actually be scary. The transition from walking in the woods tra-la-la to OH SHIT WE ARE GOING TO DIE was too quick and unbelievable. Shaky video camers don't scare me.

Are You Nomar? (miloaukerman), Saturday, 29 October 2005 22:13 (twenty years ago)

same...when I saw it, a friend of mine who was in NYU film school had a copy of it on VHS, this was like, before they even knew it was coming out? He was like, everyone's trading this tape, it's some sort of documentary or horror film or something, I'm not sure. I watched it in my living room, in the pitch black darkness, with like 3 or 4 other people. Lauren P. was there, and it totally destroyed us, we were all scared shitless. I couldn't imagine what it would be like seeing it in a big movie theater with a crowd of people months after the hype and the website and all of that, but the way we saw it was just devastating.

-- Dan Selzer (danselze...), October 29th, 2005.

i wish i could've seen it like this :-(

latebloomer (latebloomer), Sunday, 30 October 2005 01:07 (twenty years ago)

a couple things combined to freak me out when i saw this.

1. i'd just gotten back from summer camp int he woods, and a lot of it looked like blair witch woods.

2. i used to go walking around my neighboorhood late at night and there was a house about a half mile away, abandoned and dilapidated that looked way too much like the one at the end of the movie.

3. saw it in a practically empty theater with the air conditioner making it freezing cold and giving me huge goosebumps.

i knew it was a hoax going in, but man, those noises and stuff scared the shit out of me. I guess i just knew that i'd have to place myself in the movie, and getting back from camp the week before made that really easy i guess. it worked.

classic, though i would probably never watch it again.

AaronK (AaronK), Sunday, 30 October 2005 03:00 (twenty years ago)

Funny thing is, at the time I saw it I was actually living alone (well, with a cat) in a little rural cabin that had woods on three sides of it. My friends all said it looked like the house from Evil Dead. But when I got back home after seeing the movie, I wasn't at all freaked out. I'm not sure why, it just didn't stick with me like that. (Unlike Ringu, which made me afraid of my television set for days.)

gypsy mothra (gypsy mothra), Sunday, 30 October 2005 04:21 (twenty years ago)

If you read the book about the Metallica film, Some Kind Of Monster written by one of it's makers, Joe Behrlinger (sp?), he spends the first four chapters whining about how the 'Film Company' fucked up BW2 and how much better it would have been if they had kept to his original concept.

mzui (mzui), Sunday, 30 October 2005 13:41 (twenty years ago)

Ugh. Why do people see the need to make sequels (I know, I know $$$$). But honestly, "The Blair Witch Project" -- love it or hate it (I'm in the love it camp) -- was fine on its own. No sequel necessary. End of story.

Alex in NYC (vassifer), Sunday, 30 October 2005 13:44 (twenty years ago)

It isn't always only money - some people feel they have more to say about the same characters. However, when (as in this case) it's got nothing to do with the same people, I think we can assume that money is the major factor.

Martin Skidmore (Martin Skidmore), Sunday, 30 October 2005 15:15 (twenty years ago)

The first one sucked. I was embarrassed for having brought someone and hyping it to be supposedly so freaky. The second one was good. Maybe it was more like a regular horror flick, but it was convincing mind-fuckery if you've ever had similar experiences yourself (drugs) which is what made it so creepy. For once, you feel like you understand a killer's mixed-up mind firsthand.

Weirbitch, Sunday, 30 October 2005 15:22 (twenty years ago)

Did you then go out and kill people to verify the verisimilitude?

Ned Raggett (Ned), Sunday, 30 October 2005 17:34 (twenty years ago)

The first one sucked. I was embarrassed for having brought someone and hyping it to be supposedly so freaky. The second one was good.

With all due respect, I'm sorry, but you're an idiot.

Alex in NYC (vassifer), Sunday, 30 October 2005 18:02 (twenty years ago)

http://67.18.37.16/481/108/emo/0rofl.gif Seriously, I am all for subjectivity, but either you're just being contrary or I WANT YOUR DRUGS. The good ones that is. I really can't understand how someone can prefer the sequel to the first one.

nathalie, a bum like you (stevie nixed), Sunday, 30 October 2005 18:13 (twenty years ago)

Nope, the first one was gimmicky and totally unconvincing. Therefore, it is perhaps the worst movie ever made. The second one was better in every way.

Weirbitch, Sunday, 30 October 2005 18:33 (twenty years ago)

the goth in the 2nd one was hott but she didnt get naked. what a jip

blue balls, Sunday, 30 October 2005 18:38 (twenty years ago)


First time I saw it, I thought it sucked. Watching it right now, I think it had potential but they didn't pursue it. You could make a better movie about people getting lost in the woods. I got hypothermia while walking home through a forest once, and I lost my mind. That was scary. But everything in this one just builds up to the end, making much of it a waste.

mickey raft (mickeygraft), Sunday, 30 October 2005 18:44 (twenty years ago)

Nope, the first one was gimmicky and totally unconvincing. Therefore, it is perhaps the worst movie ever made. The second one was better in every way.

Just for the sake of perspective, may I ask what your, say, five favorite movies of all time are?

Alex in NYC (vassifer), Sunday, 30 October 2005 18:51 (twenty years ago)

I thought the only reason that the 2nd one is/was remembered at all, is that it has two kinda hott chicks in it...

kingfish orange creamsicle (kingfish 2.0), Sunday, 30 October 2005 20:17 (twenty years ago)

I've caned a lot of acid in my time, and it's never made me want to go and see Blair Witch 2.

Patchouli Clark (noodle vague), Sunday, 30 October 2005 20:23 (twenty years ago)

I really hope Weirbitch isn't Calum, I don't want to be in agreement with Calum.

Are You Nomar? (miloaukerman), Sunday, 30 October 2005 20:47 (twenty years ago)

My five favorite movies of all time? I have no idea, but I know a low budget copout when I see it. I've seen better and scarier college movies made on less of a shoestring budget.

Weirbitch, Sunday, 30 October 2005 22:46 (twenty years ago)

After some thought, I'll go with Spaceballs, Caddy Shack, Ice Pirates, Ghostbusters II and Freaky Friday ties with Cannonball Run.

Weirbitch, Sunday, 30 October 2005 22:55 (twenty years ago)

After some thought, I'll go with Spaceballs, Caddy Shack, Ice Pirates, Ghostbusters II and Freaky Friday ties with Cannonball Run.

Suspicions confirmed.

Alex in NYC (vassifer), Monday, 31 October 2005 03:08 (twenty years ago)

the shittiest movie I have ever seen.

Good Dog (Good Dog), Monday, 31 October 2005 04:07 (twenty years ago)

Suspicions confirmed.

That I should be on the Oscar committee?

Weirbitch, Monday, 31 October 2005 04:20 (twenty years ago)

least scary movie ever, except that it made me want to kill those who hyped it (yeah I was suckered into opening day too). P.T. Barnum...

Paul (scifisoul), Monday, 31 October 2005 04:39 (twenty years ago)

Classic. Saw it once, midnight opening at the Uptown in Mpls. Was supposed to meet friends, but they ended up bailing. Seeing it alone actually made it better, I think. The audience was totally into it and the "Mikey!!!" scene fucking KILLED.

I live(d) way out in the country, in the WOODS. Like, DEEP IN THE WOODS. I parked my car, sprinted to the house and slept with the lights on. Terrifying and totally kickass.

giboyeux (skowly), Monday, 31 October 2005 04:59 (twenty years ago)

It's on Tv tonight, if you are in the UK and have E4, I believe it is.

Martin Skidmore (Martin Skidmore), Monday, 31 October 2005 12:14 (twenty years ago)

Suspicions confirmed.

That I should be on the Oscar committee?

No, that you have an extra chromosone.

Alex in NYC (vassifer), Monday, 31 October 2005 14:52 (twenty years ago)

No, that you have an extra chromosone.

I'm going to assume that's a typo. But, yeah, it's an alien chromosome that gives me superintelligence.

Weirbitch, Monday, 31 October 2005 15:34 (twenty years ago)

I was lucky enough to stumble onto free passes to a preview screening. Having no idea what I was in for, it scared me shitless. One of the most effective horror movies I ever saw. My second viewing of it, after all of the hype, was significantly less impactful. It probably doesn't hold up past the initial viewing (and only then if you don't know much about it), but it did the trick that one time.

Blair Witch 2 is certainly a steaming load of crap, but it's worth renting if only to hear Berlinger's commentary. It was meant to be some sort of meta-commentary on the "Is it a hoax?"-ness of the first film. It seems like it could have been a really interesting film, had he pulled off what he intended.

Deric W. Haircare (Deric W. Haircare), Monday, 31 October 2005 18:32 (twenty years ago)


Absolutely NO film could possibly measure up to the sheer avalanche of hype that followed "The Blair Witch Project". What film could possibly live up to all that hyperbole? I was lucky enough to see it before that stuff set in, so was able to be objective about it.

But the sequel? I mean, what was so refreshing about the original was that it wasn't just yet another whistle-headed teen slasher flick ala "Scream" (which I never found scary or clever) or any variations of same ("I Know What You Did Last Summer" etc. etc. ad nauseum). That its sequel would pander directly to the same braindead demographic that laps that garbage up was profoundly depressing.

Alex in NYC (vassifer), Monday, 31 October 2005 20:23 (twenty years ago)

IKNWYDLS and Scream are both far, far better movies (and scarier) than the original BWP.

Are You Nomar? (miloaukerman), Monday, 31 October 2005 20:29 (twenty years ago)

And there wasn't anything terribly similar about BW2 and Scream or IKWYDLS. BW2 had more in common with The Shining.

Weirbitch, Monday, 31 October 2005 20:42 (twenty years ago)

I fell asleep during this movie. I rented it long after the hype had come and gone and was thoroughly bored by its clumsiness. Surprised I'm the only one who feels this way (where's Morbius...?)

Shakey Mo Collier (Shakey Mo Collier), Monday, 31 October 2005 21:07 (twenty years ago)


And there wasn't anything terribly similar about BW2 and Scream or IKWYDLS. BW2 had more in common with The Shining.

I wasn't talking plot, I was talking about it's style and its marketing and its production.

Alex in NYC (vassifer), Monday, 31 October 2005 21:13 (twenty years ago)

IKNWYDLS and Scream are both far, far better movies (and scarier) than the original BWP.

I've seen episodes of "I Love Lucy" that were scarier than "Scream".

Alex in NYC (vassifer), Monday, 31 October 2005 21:15 (twenty years ago)

Scream's more of a comedy than a horror film.

Shakey Mo Collier (Shakey Mo Collier), Monday, 31 October 2005 21:17 (twenty years ago)

I wasn't talking plot, I was talking about it's style and its marketing and its production.

I guess the whole "movie about a movie" thing doesn't appeal to you, but it did give it a credible connection to the first. Otherwise, you'd just have a sequel that had nothing to do with the first one. It's not as if you can do another home video movie and it's not as if you can act as if the first BW was real when it clearly wasn't. The whole point of the first was that it was a marketing gimmick which some fools believed was real. Other than that, there's nothing to the movie. It sucked. By the time BW2 came out, the cover was blown. So, the way they tied the 2nd one to the first was about the best possible solution. It's a bunch of kids having a good time going on a good scary tour of the woods where BW was filmed and it turns out there is something to legend of Blair Witch after all. It's really not even that similar in style, marketing or production to either Scream or IKWYDLS. It features kids, but most horror flicks do. It's a movie about a movie, which I think Scream 2 did, but it's hardly the same thing. Maybe if the first one didn't suck so much, the second one wouldn't have had to try so hard to link a plot to a gimmick.

Weirbitch, Monday, 31 October 2005 21:35 (twenty years ago)

Scream's more of a comedy than a horror film.

Well, technically, it's a parody. It's just not a very well written one.

I guess the whole "movie about a movie" thing doesn't appeal to you, but it did give it a credible connection to the first. Otherwise, you'd just have a sequel that had nothing to do with the first one.

Well, as i mentioined earlier in the thread, I don't think there should've been a sequel at all.

It's really not even that similar in style, marketing or production to either Scream or IKWYDLS. It features kids, but most horror flicks do. It's a movie about a movie, which I think Scream 2 did, but it's hardly the same thing.

It's just another poorly written, high gloss crap horror film, just like the afore-mentioned films. Nothing new or innovative or fresh about it.

Maybe if the first one didn't suck so much, the second one wouldn't have had to try so hard to link a plot to a gimmick.

Are you of the mindset that the first one sucked because there wasn't any big payoff? Was there not enough gore to sustain you? Did you lament the absence of some teenybopper whistlehead icon like Jennifer Love Hewitt or Courtney Cox? Were there not enough dumb one-liners or easily repeatable soundbyte catchphrases? What exactly about it left you so cold and clammy?


Alex in NYC (vassifer), Monday, 31 October 2005 21:43 (twenty years ago)


Here's what left me so cold and clammy about BW1:
It was totally unbelievable, so watching a pretend home video was thoroughly boring. There was nothing of substance: bad acting, bad pretend camera work, bad writing (more like improv) and a bad plot. The final scene was as unconvincing as the rest, which brought the plot down to a whole new level of hurt.

And why are you comparing thie incredible lameness of Blair Witch to "dumb one-liners or easily repeatable soundbyte catchphrases?" Does "We're gonna die out here" ring a bell?

As for BW2, I can't think of a single dumb one-liner or easily repeatable soundbyte catchphrase. It was all natural dialogue well-scripted. What exactly left you so cold and clammy about BW2? There was certainly more to it than BW1. And you didn't have the sad realization after 45 blurry minutes that nothing was going to happen because it simply wasn't in the budget.

Weirbitch, Monday, 31 October 2005 22:50 (twenty years ago)

t was totally unbelievable, so watching a pretend home video was thoroughly boring.

Yeah, `cos the script of "Scream" -- hoo boy, yeah that was so believable, wasn't it. Give me a break.

We're just going to have to agree to disagree here.

Alex in NYC (vassifer), Monday, 31 October 2005 23:14 (twenty years ago)

I just finished watching it again. In a way it seems as if it belongs in a different category from most horror films, in that there is almost no attempt to directly scare the viewer. It convinced and carried me along as a depiction of people being absolutely fucking bewildered and angry and progressively terrified, and I found it very compelling, and the climactic moment carried a huge charge. I think the acting is extremely good, and the dialogue and pacing very well judged - and original and kind of brave too. I think it still looks a hugely impressive film.

I saw the sequel once and can remember just about nothing from it, which is unusual. I remember I thought it was rubbish.

Martin Skidmore (Martin Skidmore), Monday, 31 October 2005 23:34 (twenty years ago)

Yeah, `cos the script of "Scream" -- hoo boy, yeah that was so believable, wasn't it. Give me a break.

We're just going to have to agree to disagree here.

Why are you talking about Scream? You keep talking about completely different movies instead of sticking on topic with Blair Witch 2. You never saw the second one, did you?

Weirbitch, Tuesday, 1 November 2005 00:22 (twenty years ago)

I saw the sequel once and can remember just about nothing from it, which is unusual. I remember I thought it was rubbish.

Probably because it changed so much it was hard to keep track of what was going on. It was intense for a very long time, as it examined a mass psychosis through several individual characters who kept crying out, "this makes no sense!" In this way, the movie was aimed at destroying the viewers' sensibilities more than the characters and it felt like a dirty trick was being played on you, as the evil spirits are wont to do. But if you paid attention, it did all made sense in the end... or did it? It clearly had a logical explanation, but you left the theater with a bad hangover thinking, "what the fuck just happened, exactly? Was it or was it not really an evil spirit?" This felt much realer than the first one to me.

That's about all that I remember about it other than the fact it was quite visually stunning in the theater, but I'm sure this didn't come across on dvd. There were some beautiful hallucinations up on that second floor. People getting killed on surveillance cameras (or more hallucinations?) and there was the cutesy teenage 15 minute intro before the horror began, that must've bothered Alex so much. But, that intro was really quite a brilliant strategy, acknowledging the reality of the original gimmick and media hype both for those who appreciated it and wanted another 'reality' anchor in the second installment, but also for those who felt ripped off by the first BW (and there were lots of people who felt ripped off by the first). The second one might have been geared toward people who felt the first one was a ripoff, actually, since it starts off with the premise that the first one was a phoney gimmick and attempts to make it real again.

When people say the first Blair Witch was intense or scary, I just have no clue what they're actually talking about. I sat there in the theater and was kind of laughing to myself about it, but trying not to ruin it for the person I'd dragged to see it, hoping he was actually enjoying it. It was obvious they were trying to fill up 90 minutes and I got bored less than halfway through. I remember half the people I talked to about the movie felt this way. People just felt compelled to see it to know for themselves what people were talking about.

Weirbitch, Tuesday, 1 November 2005 00:53 (twenty years ago)

I only saw BWP once, rented, about 5 years ago and I remember very little of it. By that point, the "is it real or not?" hype machine had pretty much run its course, so there wasn't any kind of doubt in my mind about the nature of the film - at the same time I couldn't help watching it and thinking "how the fuck could any half-intelligent person be fooled into accepting this as an actual documentary" (for all sorts of reasons, most of them technical - ie, "gosh, that camera's microphone sure is picking up that guy's voice really well from 50 feet away on the other side of a river. hmmm") And I didn't understand why the two guys didn't just tell the overbearing bitch lead character to fucking shut up, ergh so annoying. I fell asleep before the end.

Shakey Mo Collier (Shakey Mo Collier), Tuesday, 1 November 2005 01:08 (twenty years ago)

the upshot is - if a film relies on a marketing gimmick (or a [not so] surprise "twist"] to make it watchable, it is not a good film. "The Crying Game" is another good example here - the "gotcha" school of filmmaking is exceptionally lazy and really not all that interesting to me.

Shakey Mo Collier (Shakey Mo Collier), Tuesday, 1 November 2005 01:09 (twenty years ago)

You never saw the second one, did you?

Someone needs to go round with a handheld camera and find out how AiNYC mysteriously disappeared after this question...

Onimo (GerryNemo), Tuesday, 1 November 2005 11:13 (twenty years ago)

It's on Tv tonight, if you are in the UK and have E4, I believe it is.

oh how i laughed when i saw the trailer for this last night on e4...having ONLY YESTERDAY ordered the DVD on Amazon...

CharlieNo4 (Charlie), Tuesday, 1 November 2005 12:17 (twenty years ago)

ILX hype suXor!

CharlieNo4 (Charlie), Tuesday, 1 November 2005 12:18 (twenty years ago)

Someone needs to go round with a handheld camera and find out how AiNYC mysteriously disappeared after this question...

He frantically ran down to Hollywood Video and rented it!

Weirbitch, Tuesday, 1 November 2005 13:16 (twenty years ago)

Is that a challenge I smell?

I left because it seemed pretty clear that we weren't going to change each other's mind. In answer to the question, I watched about ten minutes of the sequel (not in a theatre, but via DVD), and found it so depressingly bad that I wasn't interested in finishing it.

Like I said, we're just going to have to agree to differ on this point. As far as I'm concerned, I can't understand why you like schlocky, crap entertainment, but hey -- to each their own.

Alex in NYC (vassifer), Tuesday, 1 November 2005 14:29 (twenty years ago)

As far as I'm concerned, I can't understand why you like schlocky, crap entertainment, but hey -- to each their own.

Right... this you know from "about ten minutes."

I thought the teenagers were pretty typical goofs in the first 10 minutes of the first Blair Witch, but I still managed to get all the way through it before I made a final judgement. I sat there waiting and hoping the movie would prove me wrong, but it never happened. Even afterward, I thought about the movie for several days before I finally really decided I really didn't like it, despite what a good idea it could have been, because the execution let me down.

Weirbitch, Tuesday, 1 November 2005 15:32 (twenty years ago)

I'm not sure how the first one was some sort of marketing gimmick. I mean, who in the world went to that movie thinking it was real? Was it marketed as such, at least beyond the website, once the real hype machine took off? I don't remember that.

Josh in Chicago (Josh in Chicago), Tuesday, 1 November 2005 15:43 (twenty years ago)

So the people upthread who saw it before it was released theatrically: was this before or after its big splash at Sundance? And did you really think it could have been real?

Josh in Chicago (Josh in Chicago), Tuesday, 1 November 2005 15:46 (twenty years ago)

Fuck the marketing (but yes, it was mostly internet viral marketing including a $15,000 website. The beginning of the movie itself attempted to portray it as found tapes for anyone who was foolish enough to believe it.

Weirbitch, Tuesday, 1 November 2005 15:50 (twenty years ago)

And did you really think it could have been real?

They did in Finland, because the lack of witches abducting teenagers in the woods made them ignorant to the connotations of the images and without context something that appeared to be a documentary was just that - a documentary.

aldo_cowpat (aldo_cowpat), Tuesday, 1 November 2005 15:54 (twenty years ago)

ha ha ha a video found with supposedly murderous deaths on would be immediately impounded by the feds ha ha ha, you silly sausages

Ste (Fuzzy), Tuesday, 1 November 2005 15:54 (twenty years ago)

There were a lot of silly sausages. The commercials showed stupid people coming out of the theater all horrified, asking if it was real or else proclaiming it really was real! Were these paid actors or complete idiots?

Garciaslut, Tuesday, 1 November 2005 15:57 (twenty years ago)

"paid actors or complete idiots?"

as if there is a difference....

Shakey Mo Collier (Shakey Mo Collier), Tuesday, 1 November 2005 17:00 (twenty years ago)

Right... this you know from "about ten minutes."

Doesn't take me ten minutes to look in a toilet bowl and recognize its contents. Obviously you prefer closer examinations. Hope you wash your hands afterwards.

Alex in NYC (vassifer), Tuesday, 1 November 2005 18:00 (twenty years ago)

Just following up on an earlier gripe fo Weirbitch's

bad writing (more like improv)

Just FYI, it was largely improv. As I understand it -- and someone please jump in if I'm wrong -- the actors were given very fleeting stage direction via secretive notes during the production. There was no "script" per se.

Alex in NYC (vassifer), Tuesday, 1 November 2005 18:03 (twenty years ago)

Such garbage.

Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 1 November 2005 18:08 (twenty years ago)

Doesn't take me ten minutes to look in a toilet bowl and recognize its contents. Obviously you prefer closer examinations. Hope you wash your hands afterwards.

This is a bit ridiculous since it takes the plot takes almost the full 90 minutes to unfold. But, yeah, you enjoyed sitting through 84 minutes of home vdeo of some dipshits improving in the woods, so clearly your taste is a little different.

Weirbitch, Tuesday, 1 November 2005 18:09 (twenty years ago)

84 minutes that went absolutely nowhere, I might add, and could have easily been pared down to an hour or less.

Weirbitch, Tuesday, 1 November 2005 18:12 (twenty years ago)

I mean, who in the world went to that movie thinking it was real?

The same people who still look at the sky hoping E.T. will one day come back. They have their bicycle all shiny and wheels pumped up so they can peddle to the moon with E.T..

nathalie, a bum like you (stevie nixed), Tuesday, 1 November 2005 18:13 (twenty years ago)

"Such garbage."

ah, validation.

Shakey Mo Collier (Shakey Mo Collier), Tuesday, 1 November 2005 18:16 (twenty years ago)

Again, I'm not going to defend BWP2 as anything resembling a good movie, but I certainly think the conceit was interesting. One thing mentioned in the Berlinger commentary that was never made explicit in the final cut of the movie: the vast majority of the story was supposed to represent the subjective (i.e. filmed) reality of the characters, while the video shot by the characters and shown towards the end was supposed to represent "objective" reality. I gather that the intention was for the filmed bits to be a little cliche and over the top (see the ridiculously hammy sherriff). It just wasn't pulled off w/the mastery necessary to make it actually work.

Josh in Chicago: I believe that I saw my preview screening after Sundance. I don't remember thinking that the movie was a true documentary. I just remember thinking that it was creepy as fuck. And a bonus: I think the entire audience was right there w/me. I've never seen so many people sit completely stock still for so long after a movie finished up.

Deric W. Haircare (Deric W. Haircare), Wednesday, 2 November 2005 00:54 (twenty years ago)

yeah i remember the intended approach for BW2 being talked about in articles and publicity before it was released. it sounded interesting...until i saw the movie. and why was it subtitled 'book of shadows', with NO Book of shadows anywhere in the movie?

latebloomer (latebloomer), Wednesday, 2 November 2005 01:01 (twenty years ago)

wtf is a book of shadows anyway?

latebloomer (latebloomer), Wednesday, 2 November 2005 01:05 (twenty years ago)

that's exactly the question that got those poor kids into trouble in the first place.

s1ocki (slutsky), Wednesday, 2 November 2005 01:08 (twenty years ago)

A book of shadows is just a witch's magical diary. The redheaded bitch fancied herself a witch, remember? But, there was a real witch that fucked with all their heads. Also, anything brought to the light of day casts a shadow and shadows play tricks on you.

Weirbitch, Wednesday, 2 November 2005 01:12 (twenty years ago)

so clearly your taste is a little different.

Diplomatically put. Let's leave it at that.

Alex in NYC (vassifer), Wednesday, 2 November 2005 04:08 (twenty years ago)

One thing mentioned in the Berlinger commentary that was never made explicit in the final cut of the movie: the vast majority of the story was supposed to represent the subjective (i.e. filmed) reality of the characters, while the video shot by the characters and shown towards the end was supposed to represent "objective" reality.

That was all pretty clear in the film as-is.

Are You Nomar? (miloaukerman), Wednesday, 2 November 2005 04:12 (twenty years ago)

That still doesn't explain / justify that REVERSER horseshit. Unless it involves a nice set of gams in a nicer set of fishnets, ain't no one doing anything backwards.

David R. (popshots75`), Wednesday, 2 November 2005 07:15 (twenty years ago)

The use of the word "hoax" on this thread disturbs me.

walter kranz (walterkranz), Wednesday, 2 November 2005 07:23 (twenty years ago)

Me too, Walter. It implies that somehow you were tricked into thinking it was real, which seems ridiculous. Do film students really pass around tapes of real people being actually murdered? I didn't think you were allowed to do that.

I was one of the motion sickness people. I thought the film was okay, but I came out of the cinema as a great advertisment to the queue of people waiting to go in. I was pale and shaking and had to sit down on a bench right outside and take many deep breaths before I felt steady enough to walk home. That cinema should have PAID me! I must have looked traumatised!

As gypsy mothra said upthread, it's no Ring. That film had me afraid to go into the living room for a week.

accentmonkey (accentmonkey), Wednesday, 2 November 2005 14:11 (twenty years ago)

this was a terrible film, and a line should be drawn under it.

Theorry Henry (Enrique), Wednesday, 2 November 2005 14:13 (twenty years ago)

>"Such garbage."
ah, validation.<

I was just trying to come up with something as pithy as "Spielberg sucks."

Not a film; a con. The best scare it had was the one it threw into Hollywood execs who wondered "How do we reproduce THIS kind of shit?"

Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 2 November 2005 14:27 (twenty years ago)

Me too, Walter. It implies that somehow you were tricked into thinking it was real, which seems ridiculous. Do film students really pass around tapes of real people being actually murdered? I didn't think you were allowed to do that.

http://www.grizzlyman.com/

Granted, the murder scene had the lense cap on.

Set Precedent First, Wednesday, 2 November 2005 16:34 (twenty years ago)

The bear was never charged.

Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 2 November 2005 16:41 (twenty years ago)

Actually, the bear was identified and killed.

Um, Wednesday, 2 November 2005 17:10 (twenty years ago)

POLICE STATE

Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 2 November 2005 17:12 (twenty years ago)

Bears are not witches.

walter kranz (walterkranz), Wednesday, 2 November 2005 17:47 (twenty years ago)

Witches can not be charged or killed.

Bare Naked Bear Activist, Wednesday, 2 November 2005 17:52 (twenty years ago)

Classic.I am more likely and happy to be frightened by something inexplicable and unseen then by a leering monster with lots of screen time. My favorite scene was :running through the woods in the dark (very shaky camera) after maybe having heard something outside the tent.Straining to see something on the dark screen just like one of the characters.

Annabelle Lennox (Arachne), Wednesday, 2 November 2005 18:14 (twenty years ago)

am more likely and happy to be frightened by something inexplicable and unseen then by a leering monster with lots of screen time.

Amen, sister!

Alex in NYC (vassifer), Wednesday, 2 November 2005 18:39 (twenty years ago)

I'm more likely to be frightened by something inexplicable and unseen than by some idiots with a Hi8 video camera and trail mix.

Are You Nomar? (miloaukerman), Wednesday, 2 November 2005 20:28 (twenty years ago)


Hah Shakey, I just saw yr other posts and realized you were seeking confirmation...

>>why the two guys didn't just tell the overbearing bitch lead character to fucking shut up

Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 2 November 2005 20:47 (twenty years ago)

...She was the most annoying person to step in front of a camera ever, w/ possible exception of Speed Levitch.

Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 2 November 2005 20:50 (twenty years ago)

"paid actors or complete idiots?"
as if there is a difference....

The answer is NO.

Freddie (freddie), Thursday, 3 November 2005 10:46 (twenty years ago)

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Scientologist crap.
What the fuck is that supposed to mean?

Feigning ignorance does no one any good.

Freddie (freddie), Thursday, 3 November 2005 10:49 (twenty years ago)

No, I really don't get it. Are you speaking in code? Is it like a cryptic crossword clue or something?

Philip Alderman (Phil A), Thursday, 3 November 2005 11:44 (twenty years ago)

two years pass...

Dan Myrick, one of the two guys behind it all, on his newest film. Sounds promising, actually.

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 24 April 2008 05:41 (seventeen years ago)

Myrick seems like a nice fellow. Let's hope this turns out good.

Simon H., Thursday, 24 April 2008 05:56 (seventeen years ago)

Blair Witch Mistake, more like

wanko ergo sum, Friday, 25 April 2008 14:11 (seventeen years ago)

I imagine the Adverts singing that.

Ned Raggett, Friday, 25 April 2008 14:17 (seventeen years ago)

wtf was going on with freddie and phil upthread

J0hn D., Friday, 25 April 2008 15:00 (seventeen years ago)

one year passes...

A good question John asked there.

Meantime, ten years since original release now. Couple of extremely 'uh?' claims in this story but some other details of interest:

" 'Blair' looked like it was shot on toilet paper," says Joshua Leonard, one of the movie's young leads. "There was absolutely nothing elevated or untouchable about it. It was like when you and your buddies were 14 and you heard a Germs album and you're like, 'I could do that.' "

Plenty thought along those lines. Submissions to the Sundance Film Festival have nearly doubled since "Blair," helped by the influx of cheaper, easier to use technology. But, for all the effort, nothing has popped. So where can you find all those movies? Try YouTube, a website still six years away from its inception when "Blair" arrived in theaters.

Of course, making that kind of scratch while landing simultaneous covers on Time and Newsweek is a bit much to expect from any artistic endeavor. Sanchez describes "Blair" as a "perfect storm," a freaky convergence of content, Internet buzz and savvy marketing that comes along once in a generation. Love it or hate it (and there were plenty in both camps), the film became a touchstone for a generation of moviegoers and filmmakers.

"Everyone remembers where they were when they saw it," says Mark Duplass, whose movies ("The Puffy Chair," "Baghead") written and directed with his brother, Jay, have become key entries in the independent film movement.

"It became hugely influential," Duplass says. "The semi-improvised nature, the hand-held digital camera work, the naturalistic acting inside a genre piece, the idea of 'We don't have a [lot] of money, so let's build a budget that's appropriate, so we can execute it correctly.' Those guys were ahead of the pack."

Duplass costars with "Blair's" Leonard in the upcoming indie comedy, "Humpday," an entry that won praise at Sundance this year. The movie has enjoyed such success on the festival circuit that, for the first time, Leonard, 34, says he's no longer introduced at parties as "Josh, that guy from 'Blair Witch.' "

The other participants haven't been as fortunate in finding a follow-up. Leonard's costars, Heather Donahue and Michael Williams, have appeared in only a handful of movies. Williams returned to his day job moving furniture in upstate New York. Donahue, whose terrified, flashlight-illuminated visage became synonymous with the movie, became the butt of "Blair" parodies. She has since distanced herself from the film. ("She really got boxed in with the public's perception," Leonard says.)

Ned Raggett, Saturday, 11 July 2009 05:41 (sixteen years ago)

classic, but the thought of it inspiring mumblecore filmmakers = duddddddd

and the ugly girls, too (Tape Store), Saturday, 11 July 2009 06:59 (sixteen years ago)

But imagine if it inspires crabcore filmmakers.

Ned Raggett, Saturday, 11 July 2009 13:46 (sixteen years ago)

Donahue, whose terrified, flashlight-illuminated visage became synonymous with the movie, became the butt of "Blair" parodies. She has since distanced herself from the film.

It didn't work, because everytime I saw her in a Steak & Shake commercial, I'd think "Oh, it's the girl from Blair Witch selling me a milkshake."

Johnny Fever, Saturday, 11 July 2009 13:51 (sixteen years ago)

But imagine if it inspires crabcore filmmakers.

― Ned Raggett, Saturday, July 11, 2009 1:46 PM (1 hour ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

if only!

her soul a-wrecked-'em (latebloomer), Saturday, 11 July 2009 15:20 (sixteen years ago)

It was dud then and is dud 10 years later. Once you get past the gimmick, the characters are irritating, the "story" is by its very nature nonexistent, the visuals are painful to look at, and there are only a couple of creepy scenes. Due to the low budget and general talentlessness the "naturalistic horror" thing they were aiming for feels more goofy than scary, the famous pointing-a-flashlight-to-your-face scene being a prime example.

Tuomas, Saturday, 11 July 2009 16:32 (sixteen years ago)

why would you want to look past the gimmick when the gimmick is that rad

rip dom passantino 3/5/09 never forget (max), Saturday, 11 July 2009 16:34 (sixteen years ago)

I admit that the ending was quite nicely done, and the beginning where they interview people about the witch set the mood well. But no way do the beginning and the end justify the 60+ minutes of boredom between them, where you just watch amateur actors pretending to be scared in front of a trembly video camera.

Tuomas, Saturday, 11 July 2009 16:39 (sixteen years ago)

it wasn't perfect but I'll take it over about 98% of other shit ppl call good - ending was so completely bitchin', I only ever saw it once and still remember it vividly & with glee

worm? lol (J0hn D.), Saturday, 11 July 2009 16:42 (sixteen years ago)

why would you want to look past the gimmick when the gimmick is that rad

Well that's just it, to me the gimmick wasn't that rad. It just results in boring scenes and occasional unintended goofiness. And no way does it justify having no proper story, characters no one cares about, and a shitty visual look. You can do much better horror than that even on a small budget, as many other movies have proved.

Tuomas, Saturday, 11 July 2009 16:43 (sixteen years ago)

I only ever saw it once and still remember it vividly & with glee

Same here. I wonder if some people like it less because they watched it more than once.

Johnny Fever, Saturday, 11 July 2009 16:44 (sixteen years ago)

I've only see it once too, I can't even imagine why anyone would want to see it more than once. What would you gain from a second viewing, when the movie has no point of interest except for the gimmick?

Tuomas, Saturday, 11 July 2009 16:47 (sixteen years ago)

it gave me motion sickness and i found it pretty boring. Thought the ending was reasonably scary, which is a huge compliment from me because i'm almost never scared by movies.

The Sorrows of Young Jeezy (jim), Saturday, 11 July 2009 16:52 (sixteen years ago)

"Everyone remembers where they were when they saw it," says Mark Duplass

A movie theater?

kind-hearted, sensitive keytar player (Abbott), Saturday, 11 July 2009 16:53 (sixteen years ago)

Yeah, that's pretty much all I remember.

Tuomas, Saturday, 11 July 2009 16:57 (sixteen years ago)

Same here. I wonder if some people like it less because they watched it more than once.

I always avoid it when its on tv for that reason.

most of the haters were the same people who think they are geniuses for outsmarting a horror movie and/or have no imagination if I may make an insulting generalization :)

bnw, Saturday, 11 July 2009 16:58 (sixteen years ago)

Summer 1999: I had just sat down to eat lunch in a Burger King. Just as I was about to take a bite, *BAM* that Blair Witch movie showed up and wowed us all. I never finished my Whopper.

her soul a-wrecked-'em (latebloomer), Saturday, 11 July 2009 16:58 (sixteen years ago)

josh leonard is really good in humpday

dr. morb's adventures beyond the ultraworld (s1ocki), Saturday, 11 July 2009 17:03 (sixteen years ago)

most of the haters were the same people who think they are geniuses for outsmarting a horror movie and/or have no imagination

these are the same lame-o's who complain that movies "aren't scary" by which they mean "I didn't feel as if I were in danger" - no shit? you didn't feel directly threatened by stuff on a screen? when I am king these ppl will have plenty to be scared about I tell you

worm? lol (J0hn D.), Saturday, 11 July 2009 17:04 (sixteen years ago)

poor Whopper ;_;

kind-hearted, sensitive keytar player (Abbott), Saturday, 11 July 2009 17:04 (sixteen years ago)

ya sorry to hear about that latebloomer

dr. morb's adventures beyond the ultraworld (s1ocki), Saturday, 11 July 2009 17:12 (sixteen years ago)

Way to build your strawmen, Bnw and John. I've seen plenty of scary and imaginative horror movies, but BWP just wasn't among them.

Tuomas, Saturday, 11 July 2009 17:32 (sixteen years ago)

Maybe I'm a traditionalist or something, but for me a crappy handheld video camera and goofy "naturalistic" acting can't build enough mood to make me scared. Effective horror isn't really about realism.

Tuomas, Saturday, 11 July 2009 17:36 (sixteen years ago)

two years pass...

I just watched this again. I don't know, it's underwhelming. Any kid who lives near the woods could do the same thing with a camcorder. I guess it's for people who don't spend much time enjoying the outdoors.

Still think "The Last Broadcast" is freakier.

โตเกียวเหมียวเหมียว aka Don Nots (Mount Cleaners), Saturday, 8 October 2011 12:15 (fourteen years ago)

i thought this revive was gonna be about josh leonard's new directorial effort

da croupier, Saturday, 8 October 2011 13:17 (fourteen years ago)

The Last Broadcast was terrible

Like Iraq (latebloomer), Sunday, 9 October 2011 02:05 (fourteen years ago)

four years pass...

adam wingard (you're next, the guest) made a surprise sequel

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=girSv9UH_V8

adam, Sunday, 24 July 2016 05:07 (nine years ago)

how terrible

"Stop researching my life" (Ste), Sunday, 24 July 2016 15:03 (nine years ago)

Blech

And i like wingard

Οὖτις, Sunday, 24 July 2016 15:08 (nine years ago)

Trailers nowadays are so friggin' cliché and loud --- fade in on expo shot, calm bit of dialogue, slo mo montage then BLACK ....Boom! Boom! Slam! rinse and repeat

Acid Hose (Capitaine Jay Vee), Sunday, 24 July 2016 15:36 (nine years ago)

The only sort of follow-up to the original I could see working is a period horror about the earlier Blair witch folklore, something like The VVitch. This looks like the same movie.

jmm, Sunday, 24 July 2016 16:38 (nine years ago)

one month passes...

so in the horror thread I've heard one outright pan, one lukewarm praise....anybody else seen the new one?

Neanderthal, Sunday, 18 September 2016 20:57 (nine years ago)

I enjoyed it. Ultimately it's kinda goofy but there are some good scary moments. The main difference in this one is the obvious (almost self-consciously so) "movie"-ness versus the original's naturalism. The budget is clearly bigger so there are more supernatural shenanigans and the actors are all beautiful and the dialog is clearly scripted. It made me appreciate the improv skills of the actors in the first movie.

Rob Boss (latebloomer), Sunday, 18 September 2016 21:33 (nine years ago)

Lol just got out. This movie is like if you gave two ten year olds cameras and told them to scream, run in circles, and trip over shit

Neanderthal, Monday, 19 September 2016 02:19 (nine years ago)

it reminded me a bit of Exorcist IV, where they threw a bunch of shit from the earlier film(s) into a blender and then amplified it to volume 11.

in the OG Blair Witch, there were several effective sequences where you couldn't see shit because it was audio-only, or the camera was shaking due to a character running, but you still could piece together what was going on via context clues in either the dialogue or sound. Here, it was sometimes impossible to follow what was happening.

couple of effective moments, but the last twenty minutes became infuriating when it was over - to spend that much time to just wind up recycling a bit, bleh.

the sound aggravated me too - knew they'd rely less on practical effects but lord, everything was off of a "Your Horror Film Soundz" CD-R

Neanderthal, Monday, 19 September 2016 02:48 (nine years ago)

also lol here's nerds to Matrix the shit out for us: http://screenrant.com/blair-witch-ending-connections-explained/

Neanderthal, Monday, 19 September 2016 02:55 (nine years ago)

oh and addendum - didn't like how overplayed the supernatural was. obviously the OG Blair Witch was supernatural as hell, but the entity in the woods fucked with the trio in practical ways. walking around, snapping twigs (or just creating the sound of snapping twigs, more likely), leaving totems, fucking with the tent. then slowly ratcheted up the supernatural by distorting their sense of direction and bringing the house into the woods to lure them in.

here, there's shit like time dilation/travel, permanent darkness, all kinds of Event Horizon shit going on, like God just decided to fuck with people one night

Neanderthal, Monday, 19 September 2016 03:08 (nine years ago)

heh thx for that link

Nhex, Monday, 19 September 2016 07:51 (nine years ago)

I have no idea what people think of Grave Encounters. It's clearly derivative of Blair Witch Project, as are most of these "found footage" thrillers, but I thought it was really solid (the sequel, too). Anyway, Blair Witch redux sounds weirdly similar to some of the stronger points of Grave Encounters, from internet video as bait (I think?) to the bending/stretching of time/permanent night stuff. It's been a couple of years, though.

Josh in Chicago, Monday, 19 September 2016 12:01 (nine years ago)

review of the new one by Jon Dieringer on Letterboxd

A bunch of people from TGI Fridays commercials go camping and stumble upon a maelstrom of artificial video glitches.

The Hon. J. Piedmont Mumblethunder (Dr Morbius), Monday, 19 September 2016 18:14 (nine years ago)

The most enticing review I've read yet!

ALL TACOE'S 1/2 HALF "OFF" (Old Lunch), Monday, 19 September 2016 18:16 (nine years ago)

four years pass...

I forgot this last sequel existed until today. it's seriously so bad it created a hole in my brain and walked out

LaRusso Auto (Neanderthal), Saturday, 26 September 2020 15:42 (five years ago)

three years pass...

Good read:

https://variety.com/2024/film/news/blair-witch-project-cast-robbed-financial-success-1236033647/

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 13 June 2024 05:10 (one year ago)

great armchair reactions from people who didn't read the article, classic.

StanM, Thursday, 13 June 2024 06:57 (one year ago)

yeah the comments are even more than usually infuriating

This is Dance Anthems, have some respect (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Thursday, 13 June 2024 07:00 (one year ago)

jfc those comments. I'm sure these "enTERtaINMENT iS A buSINesS!" warriors are the same people that pitch a goddamn red-faced fit when Chipotle raises prices 2% on their burritos.

Maxmillion D. Boosted (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Thursday, 13 June 2024 16:30 (one year ago)

I remember seeing this when it first opened at one of the now-defunct Berkeley theaters.. I was breathlessly scared, but there was a young woman sitting in front of me that was sobbing uncontrollably.. it's hard to overstate what a splash this ambiguous film made in the dawning of the internet age, before most of us even had cellphones; as the article states, it can never be repeated

Andy the Grasshopper, Thursday, 13 June 2024 19:14 (one year ago)

Yeah, it was definitely an event. A group of us went to see it the first weekend at the campus theater in Champaign, but two of the girls in our group noped out in the lobby and refused to go in to watch it.

Maxmillion D. Boosted (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Thursday, 13 June 2024 19:16 (one year ago)

Andy's comment triggered this similarly very pre-tech despite living in DotCom1.0-era SF vivid moment...

I remember waiting in line (!) at the Coronet (RIP ~2005) on Geary/Arguello in SF to purchase tickets (no advance sales!) on opening day. JFK Jr. died in his plane crash the day before and that was the cover story in the newspaper which I was reading in line. I had encountered a bit of the film's hype but had avoided any real spoilers. I went with my very goth/artist/wiccan GF at the time lol. She was genuinely spooked but I thought it was more entertaining than terrifying. I'm not sure if I had a phone or a palm pilot... I was relatively slow on that tech until my employer mandated we have them.

Mrs. Ippei (Steve Shasta), Thursday, 13 June 2024 19:38 (one year ago)

a deeply stupid movie for non-horror fans, similar to A Quiet Place

Pierre Delecto, Thursday, 13 June 2024 19:43 (one year ago)

stand in the corner PD

A So-Called Pulitzer price winner (President Keyes), Thursday, 13 June 2024 19:48 (one year ago)

there's a whole bunch of deeply stupid horror movies, but I don't think the original BWP is one of them

unfortunately most of the 'found footage' knockoffs are universally crummy

Andy the Grasshopper, Thursday, 13 June 2024 19:51 (one year ago)

Filmed in beautiful Frederick County, Maryland, my home of over two decades.

Gigi Allen (Boring, Maryland), Thursday, 13 June 2024 20:10 (one year ago)

Oh so you were the guy.

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 13 June 2024 20:19 (one year ago)

I feel lucky that I was taken to this in its opening week, having not heard a thing about it beforehand.

I haven't felt any desire to rewatch it in the last 20 years, but that first viewing certainly worked on me.

jmm, Thursday, 13 June 2024 20:45 (one year ago)

Oh I had no idea that was Fredrick

Heez, Thursday, 13 June 2024 21:32 (one year ago)

a deeply stupid movie for non-horror fans, similar to A Quiet Place

huge horror fan for about 48 years and strong disagree

J Edgar Noothgrush (Joan Crawford Loves Chachi), Thursday, 13 June 2024 22:51 (one year ago)

my brother and I watched it on vhs in Australia when it came out and somehow weirdly we didn’t know much about it, like the real/fake gambit etc … Anyway, for fun we usually watched scary movies with the lights out, and i will never forget he fully got up halfway through & turned the lights back ON because he was too scared <3
and then when it ended we sat and just stared at each other like omggggg O_O

werewolves of laudanum (VegemiteGrrl), Thursday, 13 June 2024 23:16 (one year ago)

I rewatched this for the first time with my kids last year, and it scared the bejesus out of them. They had seen a good number of horror classics already, but this one legit freaked them out. I thought it still worked surprisingly well. Tight little movie.

a man often referred to in the news media as the Duke of Saxony (tipsy mothra), Friday, 14 June 2024 00:35 (one year ago)

I would have been more into it seeing it on a shitty CRT in the dark all alone, I think. That's how I saw the pre-release SyFy show and that scared me a lot more.

papal hotwife (milo z), Friday, 14 June 2024 00:39 (one year ago)

I saw this when I was living in Maroubra in Sydney. I didn't know much about it and it scared the shit out of me. We had to pass some woods on the way home and I legit ran the length of them. I slept with the light on, too.

I would prefer not to. (Chinaski), Friday, 14 June 2024 17:01 (one year ago)

holds up pretty well. easily avoids the traditional pitfall of found footage, the "why would you be filming this?" moments.

I think the "WTF NOTHING IS HAPPENING" contingent of people were somewhat reacting to the bland state of horror in the 90s, with the waning hours of big-tent 80s IP slashers, films loaded with jump scares and heavily reliant on absurd plot twists, as well as high school horror comedies. genre pieces that were slower burns, where you don't get to outright see the big bad, that relied more on atmosphere and required closer watching weren't mainstream hits.

Iacocca Cola (Neanderthal), Friday, 14 June 2024 17:14 (one year ago)

I sat too close to the screen in the small cinema where I saw this, and was badly affected by motion sickness. Staggered out of the cinema feeling nauseated and looking pale. Had to have a little sit down. People in the queue to go in looked a bit worried.

And then one of my housemates went to see it a few nights later. When we heard him coming home, my boyfriend and I turned off the lights and stood facing into the corners of the sitting room. "What are you doing? Why are you doing that?" he asked, when he turned on the lights. He'd fallen asleep in the cinema and missed the last half hour.

trishyb, Friday, 14 June 2024 18:21 (one year ago)

aww he ruined your fun joke! :(

Iacocca Cola (Neanderthal), Friday, 14 June 2024 18:27 (one year ago)

lol sad trombone

werewolves of laudanum (VegemiteGrrl), Friday, 14 June 2024 18:40 (one year ago)

lmao at snoring through the blair witch project

he/him hoo-hah (map), Friday, 14 June 2024 18:45 (one year ago)

i woulda thought it was part of the film

anybody ever been to a film where they mistook the ambient noises from audience members as part of it and had it enhance their viewing?

Iacocca Cola (Neanderthal), Friday, 14 June 2024 18:46 (one year ago)


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