UK Watercooler Conversation 3: The Revenge of the Cookie

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Hi all. I figures that 1000+ posts is WAAAAY to much for a thread, so here's a new one for us to all pontificate on the rubbishness of dates and the advantages of carrot cake.

Everyone have a good weekend?

Come Back Johnny B (Johnney B), Monday, 14 November 2005 10:23 (twenty years ago)

Eh?

Lady Totteringby-Gently (kate), Monday, 14 November 2005 10:27 (twenty years ago)

I will repost my former post. And don't think coz JB started it, you get to talk about football here!

Morning kiddies. How was your weekend?

I finally slept. It was glorious. I think I slept for 10 hours on Friday night and 12 hours on Saturday. I took a pill last night to help me sleep through my cough, and ended up sleeping through my alarm clock as well.

Saturday I lay in bed reading the papers and Country Life. Sunday I did some work on NaSoAlMo (new song!) and then went to see Architecture in Helsinki. Discovered that a former crush's band was supporting. (Thanks for warning me, Chuck No.4) That was bizarre. Watching him, I felt nothing. Kind of like an empty vessel that passion had once passed through. AiH was entertaining. Managed to avoid getting in a fite with my friend over pop music, which was a bit of a relief.

I still don't feel entirely well (physically or mentally). But less mental and stressed than I did.

Lady Totteringby-Gently (kate), Monday, 14 November 2005 10:28 (twenty years ago)

I had a horrible cold on Sunday, blocked sinuses and a throbbing head, so spent most of the day in bed.

Forest Pines (ForestPines), Monday, 14 November 2005 10:34 (twenty years ago)

Glad you enjoyed AiH, Kate. I had muchos fun with them in Cambridge. We played our first show with the current line up on Saturday. Seemed to go well, although we played one of the songs WAY too slow. Also had a photoshoot on Saturday, which was very exciting...

I still think Gentoo is better, TISSP

My God man, I don't have eight years spare ;)

In other news my Powerbook IS HERE!*

*if by here, we mean, "at the factory"

tissp! (the impossible shortest specia), Monday, 14 November 2005 10:38 (twenty years ago)

I had a good weekend thanks. Housemate's VERY fit friend came down from Exeter so I spent all weekend looking at her. We sent out Saturday night ot the zodiac and she drank too many white russians and vomited everywhere, which at the time made her less attractive, I must admit. Then she came out of the shower room on Sunday morning wrapped in a towel looking all fresh again, and my little heart melted. I must tell housemate to get her to visit again.

I learned how to make parsley sauce yesterday as well, which I'm super excited about - no longer will my potatoes be dry!

Glad you had a HQ weekend Kate, that the band was good, and you're feeling a little more recharged after the weekend!

Poor FP - are you still poorly today?

You and your powerbook - it puts me off buying an apple EVER - at least I know how to fix a PC if it breaks.

Come Back Johnny B (Johnney B), Monday, 14 November 2005 10:40 (twenty years ago)

Ah, but Apples never break...

*runs away*

tissp! (the impossible shortest specia), Monday, 14 November 2005 10:41 (twenty years ago)

did you see the recipe in the guardian last weekend which was parsnip cake? (swede and turnip were also options) sounds really odd until you consider carrot cake.

saturday morning spent reading 'pattern recognition'. spent a couple of hours in the afternoon ripping and typing up tracklistings for this years cds and recent ebay purchases.

sunday morning spent watching tv, including cenotaph marchpast. afternoon spent rendering snowflakes (little php script to generate povray script for snowflakes, results here: http://home.clara.net/koogy/snow.png - idea is to use them as covers for this year's christmas cds). lord of the rings part ii. woken at 1 by mouse...

koogs (koogs), Monday, 14 November 2005 10:42 (twenty years ago)

I'm still sniffly, but not as bad as I was yesterday.

My God man, I don't have eight years spare ;)

Pah! It doesn't take as long as people think, you know

I like your snowflakes, Koogs, and the geeky way in which they're made. I rather like Povray.

Forest Pines (ForestPines), Monday, 14 November 2005 10:44 (twenty years ago)

Was babysitting a two year old on friday night.

We couldn't put him down at his usual time as we're in a studio apt (no bedroom). I suggested putting him to bed and switching off the lights, tv etc until he fell asleep, then once he was out, resuming our friday night. (Once he's asleep, we're ensured, he'll sleep through anything)

So, nine of the clock, we put him down, tuck him in, say night night and sit there in the dark waiting for him to conk out. 30 minutes later I switched on the lamp. The little man was lying wide awake looking at me and Mr Pumpkin was snoring gently.

Sat up with my charge until 12.30 watching The Scooby Doo movie which is not enhanced at all by a child asking five times a minute "What's Scooby doing?" followed by Pete's Dragon and Madagascar.

Up at seven thirty. I'm still recovering.

Rumpie, Monday, 14 November 2005 10:45 (twenty years ago)

Aww, sorry you're ill, FP. Colds are rubbish.

Glad yer gig went well, sounds like fun, TISSP. Do we get to see these photos when you get them back, huh, huh? Man, I hope yer powerbook turns up soon. But it will be worth it when you finally get it.

Oh dear, JB, you don't need any more crushes. Though a crush must be strong if it can survive seeing the becrushed vomiting up white russians. ::shudders::

Oh yes, I learned how to cook oyster mushrooms at the weekend. It's mushroom season, mmmm, and they had a mixed pack all pink and yellow and white. The first lot I think I kind of overpowered with too spicey a sauce, but the second I made a much more subtle honey and mustard sauce and added steamed bok choi and they were DEEEEEEVINE!!!

Also, how glad am I that mulled wine season has begun?

x-x-x-post hello everyone!

Lady Totteringby-Gently (kate), Monday, 14 November 2005 10:46 (twenty years ago)

Those snowflakes are pretty, Koogsy! What is Pattern Recognition? It sounds like an excellent title so I hope the subject is as interesting as it sounds.

Scooby Doo, tee hee. Awwww, the little anklebiter was probably excited. :-)

Lady Totteringby-Gently (kate), Monday, 14 November 2005 10:48 (twenty years ago)

Sigh. I should have brought the photos of Guardian Jumper Model to work. They made me so happy and so calm. Why don't they put their fashion spreads online?

Lady Totteringby-Gently (kate), Monday, 14 November 2005 10:55 (twenty years ago)

pattern recognition = latest william gibson book. bit of a departure from usual as it's not cyberpunk but still kinda techy. had forgotten just how good it was until i started re-reading it, all the mirror-world stuff and the soul-delay. girl in it is allergic to trademarks. major plot thing is her tracking down the producer of a cult film being released in snippets onto the internet. it wins big points because all of the bits of london it talks about (and iirc the bits of LA it talks about later) are places i know (although it renames inverness street as aberdeen street).

i think there are 256 snowflakes in that picture. each one has 6 radial lines and 24 other lines, all chosen at random (php does the randomising and scripts 5 of the lines, povray script does the rotational symmetries of each flake). look closely and you'll see some that aren't joined up. takes about a minute to render on my P3 1000MHz at 640x640, nothing really. the bigger plan is to do the same thing in opengl and get them animating in realtime as some kind of screensaver.

koogs (koogs), Monday, 14 November 2005 11:27 (twenty years ago)

Oh, I thought it might be a book about pattern recognition as a mathematical or AI concept. Still, I seem to recall a lot of discussion about this book when it came out, i.e. the idea of a girl allergic to trademarks.

Lady Totteringby-Gently (kate), Monday, 14 November 2005 11:33 (twenty years ago)

xpost.

Oooh, mulled wine, I didn't think of that! I'll make some of that.

My spanish co-worker has just told me about leek cake, which sounded horrible, until he googled the recipe and it turns out it's a subspecies of quiche, and looks v. tasty. I've told him to translate the recipe for me, cos it looks scrummy.

Come Back Johnny B (Johnney B), Monday, 14 November 2005 11:37 (twenty years ago)

I'm lame and I buy my mulled wine for £2.99 a bottle from Sainsburys. Pop in a cinnamon stick and nuke it in the microwave. Num num.

Should I become a mushroom freak? I quite like the idea of tramping through autumnal forests to find yummy mushrooms. So long as I don't get killed by malevolent fungus.

Lady Totteringby-Gently (kate), Monday, 14 November 2005 11:39 (twenty years ago)

I finished the book that I found in the street (autographed copy and everything) and it was hillarious! The Apologist. I don't know if it was part of the wild book programme, or if someone had just lost it or worse, thrown it out. But I love when you just find books like that that turn out to be great.

Aaawwww, I need to go do some new second hand bookshop browsing. But only after I move. I don't want to have to carry even *more* books than I've got.

Lady Totteringby-Gently (kate), Monday, 14 November 2005 11:44 (twenty years ago)

wow i've never just 'found' a book like that.

Ste (Fuzzy), Monday, 14 November 2005 11:54 (twenty years ago)

oh, what's the name of that book dropping/finding website? it's a cool idea, i heard about it on radio2 a few weeks back.

g-kit (g-kit), Monday, 14 November 2005 11:57 (twenty years ago)

is it what kate said? wild books?

Ste (Fuzzy), Monday, 14 November 2005 12:00 (twenty years ago)

I don't think it was through the bookfinding thing - I have found one of those and it was in its own bag. (Not to mention, it was a rubbish book.)

I think this one was genuinely just dropped. Though usually my best book finds have been when people are moving and just can't be bothered to take all their books with them. Several times I've found a big box full of books by an empty house with "free books" or the like written on them.

The best lot I ever found were in LIC, great art books and things - big book of brightly coloured bugs, Einstein's Dreams and science books and things like that. Pretty good find in Islington as well. Rubbish finds in Swiss Cottage - usually Grisham novels and crap like that.

Lady Totteringby-Gently (kate), Monday, 14 November 2005 12:02 (twenty years ago)

bookcrossing?

Forest Pines (ForestPines), Monday, 14 November 2005 12:03 (twenty years ago)

i dunno if it's called wild books, i don't remember at all.
is that right, Katester? i never did visit the site, but i want to now.

g-spot (g-kit), Monday, 14 November 2005 12:05 (twenty years ago)

Bookcrossing, yeah, that was it.

Lady Totteringby-Gently (kate), Monday, 14 November 2005 12:15 (twenty years ago)

I remember that. It sounded cool. I was going to do a similar thing with tapes.

I've got a couple of the photos back--I really wish I'd cut my hair before the photoshoot now. It looks terrible. D'oh.

tissp! (the impossible shortest specia), Monday, 14 November 2005 12:28 (twenty years ago)

Post them, and let us be the judge of that!

Lady Totteringby-Gently (kate), Monday, 14 November 2005 12:29 (twenty years ago)

That schoolfriends over Xmas thread has made me feel unspeakably sad for some reason. :-(

Lady Totteringby-Gently (kate), Monday, 14 November 2005 13:27 (twenty years ago)

Maybe this will cheer you up Kate:

http://static.flickr.com/26/63191090_5bdb7d9a02_o_d.jpg

tissp! (the impossible shortest specia), Monday, 14 November 2005 13:30 (twenty years ago)

I was gonna say "is that Radiohead?" but realised it's actually you lot.

Errrmmm... PHWOAR! But I am probably just saying that because I totally have a *thing* for boys in shopping carts.

Lady Totteringby-Gently (kate), Monday, 14 November 2005 13:32 (twenty years ago)

erm, yeah. If I had a printer, I'd print that out and stick it up on my wall next to SweaterBoy and the naked Damien Hirst.

Lady Totteringby-Gently (kate), Monday, 14 November 2005 13:33 (twenty years ago)

Ha, you should have seen us trying to get out again. There were also some youths hanging about watching us with bemused looks on their faces...

tissp! (the impossible shortest specia), Monday, 14 November 2005 13:35 (twenty years ago)

strangest fetish ever!

g-klit (g-kit), Monday, 14 November 2005 13:35 (twenty years ago)

Did the photographer not help you?

Is that you on the right? In which case, your hair is just right. Don't change a thing.

Lady Totteringby-Gently (kate), Monday, 14 November 2005 13:36 (twenty years ago)

That is me on the right. I've just realised that I have much longer hair since the last time you saw me. I like th elength of my hair, but it's the thickness that's out of control. It needs thinning out but I am scared to go to the hairdresser because they'll try and make it shorter.

Here's another one:

http://static.flickr.com/30/63191087_28936ae218_o.jpg

tissp! (the impossible shortest specia), Monday, 14 November 2005 13:38 (twenty years ago)

x-post it's not strange at all! I mean, it's a boy! In a shopping cart! Like you can take him to the checkout and pay for him, and then take him home. Exchange him for another if you ever disagree.... (etc. etc.)

I love when pop star boys get in shopping carts. Usually cause it's hott boys like Thom Yorke (which is the video? Fake Plastic Trees? Ohmigod, that gives me the horn) and Alex James and James Busted Son of Dork.

Lady Totteringby-Gently (kate), Monday, 14 November 2005 13:38 (twenty years ago)

I know I'll be happy in love forever more
The day that I can buy a boy at the grocery store
Put him in my basket, take him home with me,
Exchange him for another if we ever disagree

Blimey. You and Chris need to be locked away for your own protection.

Lady Totteringby-Gently (kate), Monday, 14 November 2005 13:40 (twenty years ago)

I did the bookcrossing thing in Starbucks in Denver - I left a David Sedaris book in the magazine rack and by the time I left the shop it was GONE!! Annoyingly I never saw who took it.

Mulled wine season is k-great. As is mince pie season. I actually fixed out boiler yesterday - we put the heating on for the first time this winter and, naturally, it didn't work. So after trying to fix it the proper way, and having no luck, I decided to just hit it with a hammer AND IT WORKED. Result!

Markelby (Mark C), Monday, 14 November 2005 13:48 (twenty years ago)

Haha, Kate, you flatter us. Have another picture. Coloured in this time (we did this with crayons):

http://static.flickr.com/30/63191095_0b3c0001f3_o.jpg

tissp! (the impossible shortest specia), Monday, 14 November 2005 13:49 (twenty years ago)

I am actually talking on the phone ABOUT GREEN BEANS. Fact.

tissp! (the impossible shortest specia), Monday, 14 November 2005 13:50 (twenty years ago)

Please, Mr, TISSP, you are spoiling us! Have you put a red rinse in your hair, or is it the filters? Your hair doesn't need to be cut to be thinned/controlled, you just need to stop washing/brushing it so much. And I say that in a helpful and not at all prurient or erm, lustful sort of way. ::wipes drool off keyboard::

Mmm, mince pies. Mark, that reminds me I should re-release the last book crossing book I got. But it was rubbish and I couldn't finish it. Then again, maybe that means someone else will like it.

Lady Totteringby-Gently (kate), Monday, 14 November 2005 13:53 (twenty years ago)

I did dye my hair red a few weeks ago, but the filter on the photo brings it out a lot there. I don't brush my hair ever, it just seems to be very straight there. It's quite dirty today as it happens, and looks much better.

tissp! (the impossible shortest specia), Monday, 14 November 2005 13:56 (twenty years ago)

Stop teasing! I will explode if you keep this up!

Lady Totteringby-Gently (kate), Monday, 14 November 2005 13:57 (twenty years ago)

Haha, probably not a good idea to tell you there is a webcam sat right next to me that is ON NOW

tissp! (the impossible shortest specia), Monday, 14 November 2005 13:57 (twenty years ago)

Yes, turn on your webcam and start slowly shaking your filthy hair and see how fast I get sacked from my job. Oh my.

STOP THIS SHAMELESS FLIRTING. Anyway. Ha HEM.

Lady Totteringby-Gently (kate), Monday, 14 November 2005 13:59 (twenty years ago)

And now, where this becomes the thread in which tissp! and kate are told to Get A Room...

http://static.flickr.com/32/63211064_41d5a7fe64_o.jpg

tissp! (the impossible shortest specia), Monday, 14 November 2005 14:01 (twenty years ago)

xpost I've never dropped books or tapes, but I have dropped playlists for mix CDs and then given the CD a really prosaic-yet-intriguing titles. I even saw people pick them up and put them in their pockets - result!

tissps webcam service - www.dirrrrtyhair.com - subscription only $4.99

Come Back Johnny B (Johnney B), Monday, 14 November 2005 14:02 (twenty years ago)

Yeah, I really should be charging for this shit.

tissp! (the impossible shortest specia), Monday, 14 November 2005 14:03 (twenty years ago)

Dirty hair, unshaven and in big chunky glasses... oh my!

I think I'm going to go and get lunch now. If anyone needs me I'll have dragged my laptop in the ladies' room. ;-)

Lady Totteringby-Gently (kate), Monday, 14 November 2005 14:03 (twenty years ago)

(this is almost better than Tuomas' naked Finns on demand service.)

Lady Totteringby-Gently (kate), Monday, 14 November 2005 14:04 (twenty years ago)

Oh kate, that really is more info etc . . .

Come Back Johnny B (Johnney B), Monday, 14 November 2005 14:20 (twenty years ago)

(I was joking. I have no actually left my desk. Though I should eat some lunch as my financial advisor just came down and offered to help me with my forms as soon as he finishes with his client.)

Lady Totteringby-Gently (kate), Monday, 14 November 2005 14:21 (twenty years ago)

I should eat some lunch - I've got some cheddar, and some branston pickle, and some cream crackers, I just need to combine them now . . .

Come Back Johnny B (Johnney B), Monday, 14 November 2005 14:34 (twenty years ago)

TISSP, what railway line were you sitting on in the above picture?

Kate, I forgot to tell you - I bought a copy of To The Ends Of The Earth last week!

(haven't got round to reading it yet, though - I'm in the middle of the last part of the Baroque Cycle at the moment, and I want to make sure I get that finished first)

Forest Pines (ForestPines), Monday, 14 November 2005 14:39 (twenty years ago)

morning!

emsk ( emsk), Monday, 14 November 2005 14:42 (twenty years ago)

Oh, and also: the nice temp who I've stopped crushing on now has invited me to go Christmas shopping with her next weekend (largely so I can give her a lift, I think)

Forest Pines (ForestPines), Monday, 14 November 2005 14:43 (twenty years ago)

It's the disused line off Milton Rd in Cambridge.

tissp! (the impossible shortest specia), Monday, 14 November 2005 14:47 (twenty years ago)

Is that the old line to St Ives?

(sorry, I should stop being such a train-geek. I've already started hinting to the parents that I wouldn't mind this for christmas)

Forest Pines (ForestPines), Monday, 14 November 2005 14:50 (twenty years ago)

I have no idea, I'm afraid. Possibly. Been closed since '74, I think.

tissp! (the impossible shortest specia), Monday, 14 November 2005 14:51 (twenty years ago)

Morning, Emsk! How was your weekend?

Hurrah for To The Ends Of The Earth. So finally you will know Captain Anderson's deep dark secret. (It's pure Richardson.) And that's nice, about the Xmas shopping.

Lady Totteringby-Gently (kate), Monday, 14 November 2005 14:52 (twenty years ago)

my weekend was quiet! it was wicked! i spent saturday wandering around dalston sorting shit out then me and russki went to brick lane and didn't have a curry (!) and yesterday i spent listening to the record i've been messing around with a press release for and enjoying the nip in the air, then the texan and the english's gf made us amazing dinner and we watched withnail and i, ha. how come it is THREE O'CLOCK?! i got up at like 8.45 and i have been busy all day (you can tell bc i haven't been on here...) but don't seem to have achieved much. huh.

emsk ( emsk), Monday, 14 November 2005 15:01 (twenty years ago)

Yesterday was lovely nippy, wasn't it? I walked up to the Rookery and even though all the flowers were dead, it was still lovely to be out in the fresh air and sun.

Lady Totteringby-Gently (kate), Monday, 14 November 2005 15:04 (twenty years ago)

mmm. finally proper november weather. i got my big coat out on saturday for the first time! we shoulda done the walk yesterday! i just been in the garden hanging washing out and stuff and my hands are frozzened!

emsk ( emsk), Monday, 14 November 2005 15:05 (twenty years ago)

Indeed, that would have been so much better. Sigh, if only I were really a weather goddess, I'd make all days like yesterday. Yes, even the summer ones. :-)

Lady Totteringby-Gently (kate), Monday, 14 November 2005 15:20 (twenty years ago)

Hi emsk! I love really crisp winter days, so long as you're wrapped up all warm. I want a huge coat, but I don't think the one I have in my mind exists. I want an old school russian military one, like the ones I've been shooting in Call of Duty, but the just aren't about. This pic gives an idea - hope the image works cos www.rusmilitary.com is blocked by our poxy proxy:

http://www.rusmilitary.com/images/shinel_coat.jpg

Anyone seen these about? I don't want it to be covered in russian army bollox either, I just really like the style. Or maybe I shouldn't get my fashion tips from a digitised 1940s russian army commander.

Come Back Johnny B (Johnney B), Monday, 14 November 2005 15:51 (twenty years ago)

Hello
I'm at home, off sick. Just a cold bit couldn't face sneezing all day at work.
Had a good weekend - long walk around N1 yesterday. Nothing very exciting.
I've got a coat a bit like that - huge 50s Belgian army woollen thing. Toasty.

beanz (beanz), Monday, 14 November 2005 16:09 (twenty years ago)

I like it, JB, but then again, I would like that kind of thing.

Sigh. I have to stop looking at the picture of Boris J and his bike. Is it morally wrong to fancy Tories? I don't care. He's lovely.

Lady Totteringby-Gently (kate), Monday, 14 November 2005 16:46 (twenty years ago)

ARgggghhh! Why did I check my email one last time before I went home?

Lady Totteringby-Gently (kate), Monday, 14 November 2005 19:04 (twenty years ago)

Was that really the time when I left last night? Blimey, no wonder I feel like I live here.

How's youse this morning?

Anyone see the Fakespeare last night? Phwoar, leatherclad skanky Scots boys rolling around on the floor. Do we not like that?

Lady Totteringby-Gently (kate), Tuesday, 15 November 2005 08:46 (twenty years ago)

Morning all. I did very little last night - it was brilliant! New serious of ISIHAC on R4 tho, so I'm happy.

Anyone know what happened round these parts last night? All carnage seems to have broken loose. I'm scared of clicking on any more thread sthat might explain it cos I keep getting huge Cl@re D@n35 photos plonking themselves in front of me.

Come Back Johnny B (Johnney B), Tuesday, 15 November 2005 08:52 (twenty years ago)

Erm, at the risk of provoking the semipotent baby, one of the regulars (three guesses who) is going apeshit because someone or someones decided to give him a taste of his own medicine. I'm trying not to laugh because schadenfreude is an ugly thing.

Lady Totteringby-Gently (kate), Tuesday, 15 November 2005 08:55 (twenty years ago)

Anyway, I need to start listening to Radio 4. Seriously.

Lady Totteringby-Gently (kate), Tuesday, 15 November 2005 08:56 (twenty years ago)

Some people are just tossers. The best thing to do is just to turn on "hide images" on your settings page until it all dies down again.

Forest Pines (ForestPines), Tuesday, 15 November 2005 08:59 (twenty years ago)

It's not that bad. Most of the images are so huge that the relevant part disappears offscreen. And if I turn images off, I will not longer be able to see AttackBoris or the Borris Dancers!

Lady Totteringby-Gently (kate), Tuesday, 15 November 2005 09:01 (twenty years ago)

Well, you can still click on links to images that you think will contain hott scruffy Toryness!

Forest Pines (ForestPines), Tuesday, 15 November 2005 09:02 (twenty years ago)

Hot scruffy dancing Toryness:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v31/hugoagogo/borris2.jpg

(I promise I wont' splooge here.)

Lady Totteringby-Gently (kate), Tuesday, 15 November 2005 09:06 (twenty years ago)

xpost Radio 4s AMAZING - it's all about Today show first thing in the morning and all about 6.30 comedy in the evening. ISIHAC, Just a Minute, News Quiz, The Now Show (more funny than it really should be) - and Dave Gormans new series is quite funny, despite the fact it has Dave Gorman in it. Also search Moral Maze, you'll like that. There's a Radio 4 S/D around somewhere . . .

I've turned on Hide Images, but I really shouldn't have to. Aren't there mods for this kinda thing?

When Kate finally does snap we'll have 1600x2500 images of Boris Johnson on our screens, you mark my words.

Come Back Johnny B (Johnney B), Tuesday, 15 November 2005 09:07 (twenty years ago)

Come on, admit it, that picture is funny.

I know, I know. I should listen to Radio 4, it is my genetic heritage. But I can't persuade my radio to pick it up, free of Brixton Pirates (arrrrrrrr) - how can you listen to Boris Johnson hemming and hawwwing about his Desert Island Discs with that infernal OOM-tish-OOM-tish-OOOM-tish in the background? And a digital radio isn't exactly first on my life of things I need to get for my new house.

I should just tell people I'm getting married and set up a registry in the hopes that people will buy me toasters and digital radios and things.

Lady Totteringby-Gently (kate), Tuesday, 15 November 2005 09:13 (twenty years ago)

On another topic, has anyone heard from PinkPanther lately?

I sent her an email last week but I don't know if it got through what with all our network troubles, and I hate bombarding my friends with emails at work.

PinX0r? Are you out there? Please check in.

Lady Totteringby-Gently (kate), Tuesday, 15 November 2005 09:19 (twenty years ago)

Morning all.

I do love radio 4. So what's all this about image splurging? I turned images to links years ago during the worst excesses of dada, and never looked back.

Matt (Matt), Tuesday, 15 November 2005 09:38 (twenty years ago)

I find it all a bit tedious.

I started a thread about the Fakespeare. I bet it will languish on Nu ILX. Want to take bets about how few responses it will get? I'll be optimistic and predict 5.

Lady Totteringby-Gently (kate), Tuesday, 15 November 2005 09:43 (twenty years ago)

please explain "Nu ILX"

g-kit (g-kit), Tuesday, 15 November 2005 09:53 (twenty years ago)

I am just being facetious and snobby. Just like my namesake.

Lady Totteringby-Gently (kate), Tuesday, 15 November 2005 09:54 (twenty years ago)

I must admit, I haven't seen - oh, hang on wrong thread.

Come Back Johnny B (Johnney B), Tuesday, 15 November 2005 09:54 (twenty years ago)

Yay! It looks like there is going to be some interesting discussion about whether Shakespeare is still relevant or weather the BBC should make new drama! Hurrah!

Lady Totteringby-Gently (kate), Tuesday, 15 November 2005 09:58 (twenty years ago)

I give it 15 posts before someone insults someone else.

Then we can respond with Shakespearian insults and quotes! Yay!

Come Back Johnny B (Johnney B), Tuesday, 15 November 2005 10:00 (twenty years ago)

Hmm, I didn't bother watching the Fakespeare cos I am irredeemably rockist like that. But I think I shall look it this thread anyway.

Matt (Matt), Tuesday, 15 November 2005 10:01 (twenty years ago)

(I confess, I only watched it to see hott Glaswegian boys rolling around in leather trousers. I mean, I was going to watch it for half an hour and change to something else at 9, but then MacBeth comes onscreen all pointy-nosed and broody in leather trousers! I mean, why not just put him in a shopping cart while you're at it?)

Lady Totteringby-Gently (kate), Tuesday, 15 November 2005 10:06 (twenty years ago)

ok, if you won't explain Nu ILX, please explain "rockist".

g-kit (g-kit), Tuesday, 15 November 2005 10:15 (twenty years ago)

Mark S has been threatening promising to write a dissertation on that for years.

Lady Totteringby-Gently (kate), Tuesday, 15 November 2005 10:16 (twenty years ago)

well, i read it on here about a hundred times a day, so somebody must know what it means.

g-kit (g-kit), Tuesday, 15 November 2005 10:19 (twenty years ago)

I think in its current ILX meme, it's just kind of slang for "purism".

Lady Totteringby-Gently (kate), Tuesday, 15 November 2005 10:20 (twenty years ago)

that's pretty much how I meant it, with overtones of reactionary

nu-ILX = I dunno, really. Post halfway through 2003, maybe? Post the LUSENET move? It's not an argument I like getting into. I remember once I started an ILE Trivia Quiz thread, all I did was ask the first questions which came to mind, but I got a couple of sniffy replies from people thinking I was being unfair on more recent arrivals, which wasn't really my intention.

Matt (Matt), Tuesday, 15 November 2005 10:26 (twenty years ago)

OK, I'll be blunt while the US is still sleeping. Nu ILX to me is post-J0n Wi11iams and post-NOIZE board. I will deserve this thead getting slooged for saying that, but I think my opinions are pretty clear on the topic.

Lady Totteringby-Gently (kate), Tuesday, 15 November 2005 10:34 (twenty years ago)

Rockist = Purist/reactionary/etc. not its dictionary definition, but common parlance, yes.

Lady Totteringby-Gently (kate), Tuesday, 15 November 2005 10:34 (twenty years ago)

Hi guys & gals, I am here. Hugs to those who are unwell or unhappy!

Panther Pink (Pinkpanther), Tuesday, 15 November 2005 10:36 (twenty years ago)

Yay, Pink! I'm glad you're back.

Lady Totteringby-Gently (kate), Tuesday, 15 November 2005 10:47 (twenty years ago)

Morning all! I have a cold! Bummer! But my Powerbook will be here tomorrow, so nothing can harsh my buzz today!

tissp! (the impossible shortest specia), Tuesday, 15 November 2005 11:02 (twenty years ago)

Now I'm pissed off because a stupid indie boy is shitting all over my blog with his NYEAH NYEAH MANUFACTURED POP SUCKS crap.

I was going to work with this guy. Now I'm just not interested any more. Why would I want to work with someone who so fundamentally disrespects my taste and my opinion?

Lady Totteringby-Gently (kate), Tuesday, 15 November 2005 11:05 (twenty years ago)

No reason you should. Life's too short.

Matt (Matt), Tuesday, 15 November 2005 11:06 (twenty years ago)

I like the way he linked Rockism to wikipedia.

tissp! (the impossible shortest specia), Tuesday, 15 November 2005 11:08 (twenty years ago)

I really hate linking to my blog from ILX, but it's here:

http://shimuracurves.blogspot.com/2005/11/taste.html

If anyone wants to follow along at home.

God, having a conversation with this guy is like all the bits of ILX that I don't read because they annoy me. Rockism, hipsters, trucker hats, indie. Sigh.

Lady Totteringby-Gently (kate), Tuesday, 15 November 2005 11:10 (twenty years ago)

Already have

Matt (Matt), Tuesday, 15 November 2005 11:11 (twenty years ago)

Thank you, Matt! I kiss you!

Lady Totteringby-Gently (kate), Tuesday, 15 November 2005 11:12 (twenty years ago)

No worries. Indie boys dissing lovely pop really get on my nerves.

Matt (Matt), Tuesday, 15 November 2005 11:13 (twenty years ago)

my partner has made music with that dude, much to my chagrin

john p. irrelevant (electricsound), Tuesday, 15 November 2005 11:14 (twenty years ago)

Should I not, then? I hate to judge people by reputation, but I'm starting to get this real sense that I would not enjoy it, and that it would end up really winding me up.

Sometimes it's good to work with people who have a completely different approach to music than you do. But I suspect that he would only encourage the worse aspects of indie snobbery that I've tried to bannish from my music over the past 15 years.

Lady Totteringby-Gently (kate), Tuesday, 15 November 2005 11:22 (twenty years ago)

to be honest, the music of his i've heard sounds far more based in imitation than instinct. but it's just backing tracks - with the right melody it could well work

john p. irrelevant (electricsound), Tuesday, 15 November 2005 11:27 (twenty years ago)

See, that was the impression I got - but now I'm thinking that any kind of melodies I put over the top would be very, very pop and accessible - which he would hate. And I don't want to fight about it. Life's too short to be in bands that argue all the time.

Lady Totteringby-Gently (kate), Tuesday, 15 November 2005 11:29 (twenty years ago)

You could try and put some lovely pop melodies on the top, and if/when he objects, tell him to do better. When he won't be able to, you're in.

Come Back Johnny B (Johnney B), Tuesday, 15 November 2005 12:05 (twenty years ago)

I suppose the meta-question underneath that is, can I be *bothered* to do something that I *know* in advance is going to wind me up and cause me stress?

Lady Totteringby-Gently (kate), Tuesday, 15 November 2005 12:29 (twenty years ago)

Someone dislikes your art. Big deal. And you don't KNOW it's gonna wind you up, he might dig your melodies.

Come Back Johnny B (Johnney B), Tuesday, 15 November 2005 12:31 (twenty years ago)

No, it's not that he dislikes my art. The funny thing is, he actually quite liked/likes my art. It's more that I feel that there's such a fundamental difference in the way that we even approach music...

I don't know. I make music because it's fun. It's a hobby, something enjoyable to do on my days off, or with my friends.

I don't think this is going to be fun. I can't even seem to have a conversation about music with him without getting irritated. So what's it going to be like, trying to write music with him? Is every session going to be like reading the bits of ILX that I try to ignore?

I know from experience that I can't make music with someone if I don't respect them - and if they don't respect me, or at least my opinions and my tastes.

It's one thing to have different tastes from someone, to just say "you like that, but I don't, but that's fine, I'm sure you have your reasons for like it" but it's quite another to say to someone "the entire reasons behind the genre of music you like are totally illegitimate".

Lady Totteringby-Gently (kate), Tuesday, 15 November 2005 12:38 (twenty years ago)

Well, it's not really different, it's just disagreeing on taste at a more fendimental level, surely? If it's an aggressive dislike then fair enough, ditch the kid, but if it's anything less than that, don't. And besides, loving pop and thinking that the entire reasons behind the genre are illegitimate aren't mutually exclusive.

Come Back Johnny B (Johnney B), Tuesday, 15 November 2005 12:46 (twenty years ago)

Bah, stupid poxy fule:

Wow, I got so wound up about this that I neglected to notice the Boris J lookylike from upstairs standing behind me. (Well, a few desks away.)

Update: now he has gone, and he went so quickly that I was actually turned around, with a mouthful of yoghurt and didn't catch anything except a flash of yellow hair. Sigh.

Lady Totteringby-Gently (kate), Tuesday, 15 November 2005 13:06 (twenty years ago)

Also, JB, I've got it marked down in my diary that you're having a party on Saturday. But I still don't think I've had a proper invitation?

Lady Totteringby-Gently (kate), Tuesday, 15 November 2005 13:36 (twenty years ago)

.

z (ex machina), Tuesday, 15 November 2005 14:05 (twenty years ago)

.

heh, Tuesday, 15 November 2005 14:07 (twenty years ago)

Phew, that's back to normal. Yay! And here was me thinking I'd have to work for the rest of the day.

Lady Totteringby-Gently (kate), Tuesday, 15 November 2005 16:55 (twenty years ago)

that was fun now wasn't it?

I wonder how long until another tantrum gets thrown and it happens again.

Matt (Matt), Tuesday, 15 November 2005 16:58 (twenty years ago)

This was something I was considering last week when I was really hating ILE. Would anyone mind terribly if we moved this thread to another board? Like, one where I had mod privileges? If anyone else wanted to be a mod, I could make them one, too, in case you think that would lead to danger of me throwing my toys out of the crib.

Just suggesting it, we don't have to do it or anything.

Lady Totteringby-Gently (kate), Tuesday, 15 November 2005 17:04 (twenty years ago)

I would be happy to move to another board, as long as you bless me with mod privs. I just want to feel the power.

tissp! (the impossible shortest specia), Tuesday, 15 November 2005 17:06 (twenty years ago)

I could go around and tell all my friends (i.e. Chris) that I was an ILX mod. And they would be well impressed. Maybe.

tissp! (the impossible shortest specia), Tuesday, 15 November 2005 17:07 (twenty years ago)

Well, it's something to think about. I don't want to do it if it feels like we're withdrawing in a huff and excluding anyone except one or two very specific trolls. I'd rather stand my ground. But if this situation with the semipotent baby continues, I'm not sure it's worth it.

Lady Totteringby-Gently (kate), Tuesday, 15 November 2005 17:15 (twenty years ago)

I just want mod powers, haha. I find the ILE experience very frustrating when I can't just mod shit myself.

tissp! (the impossible shortest specia), Tuesday, 15 November 2005 17:21 (twenty years ago)

Especially given recent events...

tissp! (the impossible shortest specia), Tuesday, 15 November 2005 17:21 (twenty years ago)

I'm frustrated, too. And considering the negative behavioural reinforcement that's just happened, I think things are only going to get worse. :-(

Lady Totteringby-Gently (kate), Tuesday, 15 November 2005 17:25 (twenty years ago)

I'm quite confused. Who's actually to blame here?

tissp! (the impossible shortest specia), Tuesday, 15 November 2005 17:26 (twenty years ago)

Jon's explaination on the FT comments made me more, rather than less, confused.

tissp! (the impossible shortest specia), Tuesday, 15 November 2005 17:26 (twenty years ago)

Email me privately, I'd rather not derail this thread with more of this crap.

Lady Totteringby-Gently (kate), Tuesday, 15 November 2005 17:27 (twenty years ago)

Sent you a mail.

tissp! (the impossible shortest specia), Tuesday, 15 November 2005 17:34 (twenty years ago)

QUICK BAN ME [was repeated a grillion times - Mod]

Jdubz (ex machina), Tuesday, 15 November 2005 18:11 (twenty years ago)

OK!

Tom (Groke), Tuesday, 15 November 2005 19:57 (twenty years ago)

Rock. Thanks, Tom.

Poor Johnney B, I bet the thread will take forever to load when he gets on it. But perhaps we can all set our recent views to 50 and it will soon disappear. (BTW, did you remember to click "registered users only" when you made this thread? That is why this thread is normally so troll free.)

Anyway, how's youse this morning?

I went to ACB's last night to do a bit of music making. It was OK, we didn't fight about pop, which was good. And I ended up with a really interesting discussion with an older lady on the bus home, about Streatham Hill and the old Mr. Toad motor cars that were all up it last weekend.

Lady Totteringby-Gently (kate), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 08:45 (twenty years ago)

I'm pretty good. I get to go to a book launch this lunchtime so FREE FOOD - awesome.

Glad to hear that no pop-fighting was had.

Matt (Matt), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 08:48 (twenty years ago)

What's the book that the launch is for?

Lady Totteringby-Gently (kate), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 08:50 (twenty years ago)

The Poetry of Saying. Lit crit theory by a friend (and soon to be colleague) of mine.

Matt (Matt), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 08:54 (twenty years ago)

Poetry oh no, argh! Poetry!

On the other hand, Jared Harris naked free food!

Lady Totteringby-Gently (kate), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 08:58 (twenty years ago)

Now now, to each their own.

Also, free food!

Matt (Matt), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 09:01 (twenty years ago)

mmmm mince pies! (the sweet kind of course.)
So what was all that nonsense about yesterday?

Panther Pink (Pinkpanther), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 09:05 (twenty years ago)

Just ignore the semipotent baby, Pink!

I am corresponding with a real, live CARTOGRAPHER on my dating site. I'm sorry but that is just, like the sexiest occupation I've ever heard of.

Where's that thread that N started about sexy occupations?
-Cartographer
-Librarian
-Typologist/Print Designer
-Architect

I'm trying to think of others. But my goodness, a guy who makes maps. Even if I turn out not to fancy him, I just want to go on a date with him so he can tell me all about maps.

Lady Totteringby-Gently (kate), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 09:08 (twenty years ago)

Haha, kinda hard to ignore someone that causes ILX to close for a bit, but OK!
So, sweet mince pies, C or D? I reckon totally classic!

Panther Pink (Pinkpanther), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 09:14 (twenty years ago)

Oh, classic indeed. Especially with lashings of Brandy Butter. Oh yeah!

Lady Totteringby-Gently (kate), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 09:16 (twenty years ago)

Mmm, brandy butter, oh yes! I am feeling kind of Christmasy at the moment. Although goodness knows how I'm going to afford it this year, I have so many other things that I need to be spending my money on!
So is this cartographer fanciable (apart from the profession I mean)?

Panther Pink (Pinkpanther), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 09:20 (twenty years ago)

I don't know! I've not met him and only seen a picture of him looking a bit blurry standing on top of a mountain.

I'm not feeling very Xmasy, but I've been hitting the mulled wine already. It is somewhat relaxing after a long day on the interweb at work.

Lady Totteringby-Gently (kate), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 09:22 (twenty years ago)

Ah alas, no mulled wine for me, but I'm not missing it at all actually! Whodathunkit?!

Panther Pink (Pinkpanther), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 09:32 (twenty years ago)

Awwwwww.

I'm having a hard time getting started today. I know it's too early to hit the coffee yet. I had a hard time getting to sleep last night.

Lady Totteringby-Gently (kate), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 09:34 (twenty years ago)

so confused.

g-kit (g-kit), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 09:36 (twenty years ago)

By what, G? Don't worry, have a cookie.

Lady Totteringby-Gently (kate), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 09:36 (twenty years ago)

by everything.
cookie in T minus 45 minutes.

g-kit (g-kit), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 09:42 (twenty years ago)

Early night last night. I'm going for a sandwich & some chocolate now.

Pashmina (Pashmina), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 09:44 (twenty years ago)

I just had a lovely cup of tea (decaf of course) & a mince pie! Mmm lubberly!

Panther Pink (Pinkpanther), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 09:45 (twenty years ago)

Oh yeah, frost on the front windscreen of the van this morning. Frost!

Pashmina (Pashmina), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 09:46 (twenty years ago)

Frost! I like frost, nipping at my toes and making my cheeks red. I love winter.

Oh yes, I neglected to mention: RANDOM BOY ON THE FARRINGDON ROAD DOING BIKE SURVEYS FOR CAMDEN COUNCIL - I LOVE YOU!!! God, he was beautiful. I almost wanted to pretend I was a bicyclist to go and talk to him. Or ring Ed or Emsk to come and talk to him for me.

Lady Totteringby-Gently (kate), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 09:47 (twenty years ago)

I wonder if he's still out there. Maybe I could take him some tea to warm his little cheeks.

Lady Totteringby-Gently (kate), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 09:48 (twenty years ago)

You should have gone over Kate & said your bike was in the bike hospital. Take him tea too!

Pash - I was expecting to do the same this morning, but it was totally clear!

Panther Pink (Pinkpanther), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 09:49 (twenty years ago)

It's a bit far to walk for a crush - besides, the tea would get cold.

Lady Totteringby-Gently (kate), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 09:50 (twenty years ago)

Use a flask!

Panther Pink (Pinkpanther), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 09:56 (twenty years ago)

Now where am I going to get a flask? If I had a hipflask, it would be full of brandy. Mmmmmm, brandy. I think I'm going to make mulled wine for rehearsal tonight.

Lady Totteringby-Gently (kate), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 09:57 (twenty years ago)

Aaah, I made it to 10:10 for my first coffee of the day. And now my Oracle server seems to be down. Bah. I'm not that bothered coz I hate it, but still.

Lady Totteringby-Gently (kate), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 10:13 (twenty years ago)

mmm coffee. good morning people! it was sort of WEIRD working yesterday after a while not working. but good, i like the people and i like their music and it is nu challenges to understand some of it properly, which i am very up for atm.

emsk ( emsk), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 10:30 (twenty years ago)

So that's where you were yesterday! Was wondering why you weren't around. Glad that it seems to be going well.

Lady Totteringby-Gently (kate), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 10:33 (twenty years ago)

Good morning
I'm still coldy, which is good cos I'm at work and my constant sneezing proves I wasn't faking.
So... erm... anything exciting happen while I was away? I kinda wish the board were down today so I could catch up with my work properly

beanz (beanz), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 10:55 (twenty years ago)

Morning! Oh dear, sorry you're still sneezy. I think I've finally kicked it. (Shouldn't say that so soon but still) ::knocks wood::

Actually, you do have a point... I cracked a fairly major problem while the board was down yesterday. Which was nice.

Lady Totteringby-Gently (kate), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 10:57 (twenty years ago)

I read an article the other day about how constant interruptions are an essential part of the work routine. I'll link to it when I remember where I read it.

beanz (beanz), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 11:03 (twenty years ago)

Oh no! Last night (when I was actually deeply involved in an email, ha ha, not actually working on my database for once) one of the managers said "Look at Kate, it's like Alice in Wonderland! She's so involved with her computer. You'd be in there, like Tron, if you could, wouldn't you?"

Lady Totteringby-Gently (kate), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 11:05 (twenty years ago)

If yesterday proved anything its that the 98% of ILX is using the boards perfectly well and resents a tiny minority fighting out stupid, petty, irrelevant little feuds that are ruining it in such a big way.

And your repeated little tantrum about (mainly) Kate has propelled you right into this category, Matt. Enough already.

Markelby (Mark C), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 11:09 (twenty years ago)

Wrong thread, Mark!

Lady Totteringby-Gently (kate), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 11:09 (twenty years ago)

From the FT:

Lucy Kellaway: On the merits of trifling distractions
By Lucy Kellaway
Published: November 13 2005 17:07 | Last updated: November 13 2005 17:07

Here is how I write this column. First, I check both my e-mail accounts. I flick through the newspaper. Then I listen to my voicemail messages, and check my e-mail again. I go upstairs to get a banana from the staff canteen. On the way back down I meet a colleague and we do what everyone at the Financial Times has been doing for the past 10 days or so: we debate and dissect our new editor.

Back at my computer I open a fresh document, and look at the empty screen. A window at the bottom starts flashing. An e-mail from the anti-spam service, telling me someone has sent me something with a virus in it.

A second e-mail. This time from a reader sending a long, meandering response to an earlier column. Type a brisk reply. Get myself a cup of tea.

I sit down again and wonder: what was I meant to be doing? Ah yes: writing a column about interruptions.

Look up “interruptions” on Google and find 10,100,000 matches. Start sifting through advice on how to stop people disturbing you in an open plan office. Some of this is good: if someone comes to see you when you don’t want to talk, you should stand up at once. This is a neat way of sending visitors scarpering, though is of little help to me as most of the interruptions to my working day are self-inflicted, as you can see from the above.

Check my Hotmail messages. An e-mail from a friend about her divorce. Write a reply. Return to my blank document. What to say about interruptions – apart from the troubling fact that they seem to take up the lion’s share of the typical working day?

According to a recent article in the New York Times magazine, average cubicle dwellers work at one thing for just 11 minutes at a stretch, and this is divided into three-minute chunks. Once they are interrupted from the task in hand it takes them 25 minutes to get back to it.

These alarming numbers come from a new field of academic study called human-computer interaction. I’ve just looked it up on Google (doing something productive for a change) and found an obscure world of HCI conferences at which experts give papers called “Arbitrating multimodal outputs: Using ambient displays as interruptions” and “Task interruption: Resumption lag and the role of cues”.

What makes interruptions a tricky subject is that they are not just a terrific waste of time – they are also essential. Interruptions can make us feel wanted. They help one come up with ideas by diverting one’s mind from the hamster wheel it was otherwise running on. They give variety to work and stop us getting too bored. Interruptions also direct us to stop one task when another has suddenly become more urgent.

The problem is that there are too many in number and most are too piffling. Indeed if I had continued faithfully to catalogue every single interruption today, this would be the longest (and most tedious) column ever written.

Help may shortly be at hand. At Microsoft some geeks are working on systems that would allow the interruptions to come at better moments. The computer would be able to sense when was a good time and give you a stack of new e-mails when it sensed that you weren’t frantically busy.

Until they come up with that, workers are relying on low-tech ways of solving the distraction problem. The world’s most productive software engineers are, according to the NYT, sticking Post-It notes around their screens to remind them what they are meant to be doing. They make old-fashioned lists, and have three separate monitors on their desk to save them from the distracting business of opening and closing different windows.

All of which suggests that computers are not helping us work better. They have destroyed our ability to concentrate, to get things done and have fried our brains through so much multi-tasking that we can’t stick to anything for more than a couple of minutes at a time.

I am trying to think back to my work habits in the pre-computer era, and I seem to remember sitting in the library at university for four hours at a stretch, head down, reading the Philosophical Quarterly and David Hume. I doubt if I could do that now. Ten minutes of concentration seems to be the limit.

Yet as I write this I suspect I am reinventing the past. Was I really working so efficiently in that library? Or was I eyeing up other students, getting up to find books, doodling and staring out of the window?

Interruptions may have changed how I work, but I doubt if the quantity or quality of output has changed as a result. Far from finding interruptions distracting, I find them essential: they give me a sort of structure, a framework that I use to slot real work in between the gaps. In those interruption-free zones I work ferociously. If my e-mail starts flashing, I simply don’t look.

Until the geeks at Microsoft or elsewhere come up with something good I will persist with my fragmented multi-tasking ways, which actually I rather enjoy. A lot of the time is wasted. But if I wasn’t wasting it on the congenial computer, I’m sure I would find some other way of frittering it away. If I was back in a dark age without e-mail and Google (not to mention Freecell and eBay), I very much doubt if I would be sitting in silent contemplation of life’s important problems. I would be staring out of the window wondering what to have for supper.

beanz (beanz), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 11:10 (twenty years ago)

Oops sorry that was longer than I thought

beanz (beanz), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 11:10 (twenty years ago)

xposts yesh it was ace. always a bit odd somewhere new cos you have to have everything explained to you, but they want me back next week so :)

emsk ( emsk), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 11:20 (twenty years ago)

If they want you back, that's a good sign!

Lady Totteringby-Gently (kate), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 11:21 (twenty years ago)

Brandy butter?! That sounds num! What exactly is it? (I'm obv not gonna ask whether we can eat it.)

(heh I always read "FT" as Freaky Trigger, and get confused.)

The Vintner's Lipogram (OleM), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 11:40 (twenty years ago)

I don't know what exactly is in brandy butter. I assume it's just brandy beaten into butter. Whatever it is, it's gorgeous.

Lady Totteringby-Gently (kate), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 11:43 (twenty years ago)

(heh I always read "FT" as Freaky Trigger, and get confused.)

it's not just me then! whenever i'm going south over southwark bridge i give the freaky trigger building a wave and a smile.

emsk ( emsk), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 11:45 (twenty years ago)

Morning! (Just)

My Powerbook is sat next to me on the desk! Hurrah! Shame I can't properly use it yet as there's no wireless signal in this office :(

tissp! (the impossible shortest specia), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 11:46 (twenty years ago)

Yay, powerbook! What do you mean, you can't use it without wireless? You don't need a network to use a computer, silly ninny!

Lady Totteringby-Gently (kate), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 11:47 (twenty years ago)

Brandy, sugar and butter, and yes, it's fucking gorgeous.

Markelby (Mark C), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 11:49 (twenty years ago)

I think the missing element there was "to post to ILX" ;)

Also, all my actual work is on UNIX servers, rather than my desktop machine, so I need the connection to do real work too.

tissp! (the impossible shortest specia), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 11:50 (twenty years ago)

(xpost)

tissp! (the impossible shortest specia), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 11:50 (twenty years ago)

Haha imagine trying to eat oneself drunk on brandy butter ew.

The Vintner's Lipogram (OleM), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 11:52 (twenty years ago)

I made a Pernod pancake last night!

tissp! (the impossible shortest specia), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 11:52 (twenty years ago)

I would happily attempt it!

Lady Totteringby-Gently (kate), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 11:53 (twenty years ago)

oh, does anyone know of a decent and cheap driving instructor company (i have temporarily forgotten what they're actually called) in london? i suddenly find i need to learn to drive. friend p has offered to take me out in the fields around oxford and actually teach me if i hire a car for a w/e, but i prob need to do some "proper" lessons too. how much does it cost? yes i looked for this on the interweb but it's oddly unhelpful.

emsk ( emsk), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 11:53 (twenty years ago)

Emsk! You shock me! Driving? You? Why?

Heh heh, I never mistake FT for Freaky Trigger. I have a friend who works for the former, so it's always the other way around. (especially as it's usually her emails in my inbox with ft.com on them)

Lady Totteringby-Gently (kate), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 11:55 (twenty years ago)

Emsk you won't have a hope of hiring a car to learn to drive in - I'm sure the hire company expressly forbids it. As for cheap schools, try local small companies in the yellow pages - and find out what standards etc. they have to conform to and mke sure they do.

Markelby (Mark C), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 11:56 (twenty years ago)

I vaguely remember the AA and RAC being quite competitive, surprisingly, but that was a few years ago now.

beanz (beanz), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 12:03 (twenty years ago)

Quick, someone mention something nice because I'm in danger of getting wound up and I don't want to be. :-(

Lady Totteringby-Gently (kate), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 12:38 (twenty years ago)

I guess since no one else is around, a picture of Boris smirking sexily and my lunch will have to do:

http://www.theage.com.au/ffximage/2004/11/14/johnson_1511_ent-lead__200x272.jpg

Lady Totteringby-Gently (kate), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 12:43 (twenty years ago)

If it helps Kate, I think you're being a bit unfairly treated on this board recently.

tissp! (the impossible shortest specia), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 12:46 (twenty years ago)

Emsk! You shock me! Driving? You? Why?

yeh i know i know. i'm not gonna get a car or anything (what sort of div would choose to drive around london over any other form of transport)), but if i want to do tour managing i'm gonna need to drive.

Emsk you won't have a hope of hiring a car to learn to drive in - I'm sure the hire company expressly forbids it. As for cheap schools, try local small companies in the yellow pages - and find out what standards etc. they have to conform to and mke sure they do.

thanks mark. p will have to hire the car then! (yes yes no insurance but this is why we're going into fields where there's no danger of walls, other road-users etc.) also i might go home and get my bro to show me some moves in his car, mess around in fields there too.

aw kate. um, ships and pointy nosed gingers and um beer and mead and your NEW VERY OWN HOUSE (what is going on with that now btw? is it all on?) and um cliffs and seagulls and quaint country pubbes and villages and pretty dronepop noises and um oh maybe some more pointy nosed gingers...

emsk ( emsk), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 12:54 (twenty years ago)

Yay! All that has made me happy indeed.

Mmmm, look how pointed Boris' nose is.

Lady Totteringby-Gently (kate), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 12:58 (twenty years ago)

Bwahaha! I am now posting from my PowerBook! Huzzah!

tissp! (the impossible shortest specia), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 13:24 (twenty years ago)

Hurrah!

Forest Pines (ForestPines), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 13:29 (twenty years ago)

cookies.

g-kit (g-kit), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 13:43 (twenty years ago)

Cookies and powerbooks! Two great tastes that taste great together! Hurrah!

Sigh. Just back from meeting with my mortgage advisor. All forms filled out and on my way. Phew!

Lady Totteringby-Gently (kate), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 13:48 (twenty years ago)

You actually got a place lined up? I must have missed that bit.

Pashmina (Pashmina), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 13:50 (twenty years ago)

Congratulations! It beats renting, believe me.

Pashmina (Pashmina), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 13:51 (twenty years ago)

i said it before and i'll say it again: owning pwns.

g-clit (g-kit), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 13:53 (twenty years ago)

Yes! I am buying MINE OWN FLAT!!! It's all very complicated and scary and OHMIGOD ALL THE THINGS THAT CAN GO WRONG!!! But still. Better than renting, the housemate roulette, and all that crap. I feel kind of fluttery-stomached when I think about it.

Unfortunately, the hott advisor who looks like Boris J was not up there. Sigh.

Lady Totteringby-Gently (kate), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 13:55 (twenty years ago)

Probably for the best, Kate. This sounds like a situation where it could be dangerous to not be paying attention!

tissp! (the impossible shortest specia), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 14:09 (twenty years ago)

(Today is horrible because I feel dreadful. I didn't sleep at all last night and I've got a terrible cold. Worse, I can't go home because everyone will think I'm just skiving to have some time with the Powerbook!)

tissp! (the impossible shortest specia), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 14:10 (twenty years ago)

robosexual.

g-clit (g-kit), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 14:11 (twenty years ago)

It is beautiful.

tissp! (the impossible shortest specia), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 14:11 (twenty years ago)

it's not a pc.

g-clit (g-kit), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 14:15 (twenty years ago)

Yes, it's great, isn't it?

tissp! (the impossible shortest specia), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 14:20 (twenty years ago)

amazing. fancy playing some games sometime?

g-clit (g-kit), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 14:47 (twenty years ago)

Sleeping with your powerbook: classic or dud?

Classic because it's nice and warm to have in the bed. Dud because you might roll over and knock its power supply out.

Lady Totteringby-Gently (kate), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 14:51 (twenty years ago)

I have just spent half an hour trying to compose a reply to the cartographer in under 500 characters. So difficult!

Lady Totteringby-Gently (kate), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 14:51 (twenty years ago)

I don't need a Powerbook to play games... I have a PC ;) xpost

tissp! (the impossible shortest specia), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 14:52 (twenty years ago)

Yes, it's great, isn't it?

g-clit (g-kit), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 14:53 (twenty years ago)

amazing. fancy cleaning up some malware sometime?

tissp! (the impossible shortest specia), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 14:54 (twenty years ago)

I don't need a PC to clean up malware... I have a PS2 -_^

g-clit (g-kit), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 14:58 (twenty years ago)

Haha, you stole my response!

tissp! (the impossible shortest specia), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 15:00 (twenty years ago)

(The only other thing I could use is that I own a Game Gear, but I'd rather not bring that up ;))

tissp! (the impossible shortest specia), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 15:00 (twenty years ago)

Haha, you stole my response!

g-clit (g-kit), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 15:01 (twenty years ago)

Ok, enough with the mac/PC thing – it's never going to be resolved.

I had a huge amount of pasta for lunch and of course I felt really sleepy, so I had a cup of tea. Now I feel just as sleepy but even more full.

(Powerbook wins, btw)

beanz (beanz), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 15:01 (twenty years ago)

I don't even know what's going on on mine own thread, what with all this gaming talk! Oy vey!

More with the crush talk! How are you supposed to get in a decent email in under 500 characters? 500 words is hard enough. It's like writing 50 word album reviews. Bah.

Lady Totteringby-Gently (kate), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 15:02 (twenty years ago)

Of course it's never going to be resolved. There are different tools for different jobs, not One True Way (tm).

I'm unsure whether g-kit is trying to be nasty or jokey to me. I'm only being jokey, fwiw.

(xposts)

tissp! (the impossible shortest specia), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 15:03 (twenty years ago)

(Powerbook wins, btw)

you clearly have a table with a short leg

g-clit (g-kit), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 15:03 (twenty years ago)

::beats head against the laptop::

Lady Totteringby-Gently (kate), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 15:17 (twenty years ago)

i'm not being nasty!

g-clit (g-kit), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 15:23 (twenty years ago)

;_;

g-clit (g-kit), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 15:24 (twenty years ago)

Just heard that the surveyor/valuation was ordered on Monday! Hurrah!

::crosses fingers::

Please let there not be anything horribly wrong with the house, please please please.

Lady Totteringby-Gently (kate), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 15:24 (twenty years ago)

That's ok then! I was musing that I've never exchanged any bad words with anyone on ILX and thought I was about to lose my winning streak! (xpost)

Congratulations Kate! Another step closer!

tissp! (the impossible shortest specia), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 15:29 (twenty years ago)

[Resisting asking Kate what kind of laptop she was banging her head against]

beanz (beanz), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 15:30 (twenty years ago)

It's my work laptop - a shitty Toshiba.

Home laptop (which I never bash my head against - unless I'm bashing the MIDI plugin keyboard to get interesting noises) is a Powerbook. Rah.

Lady Totteringby-Gently (kate), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 15:32 (twenty years ago)

if i recall correctly, i don't think i've ever exchanged bad words with an ilx0r either. i'm perfectly charming.

g-clit (g-kit), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 15:34 (twenty years ago)

Hooray for us! It's our winning smiles. That can't be seen. Arse.

tissp! (the impossible shortest specia), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 15:35 (twenty years ago)

I've been in lots of ilx arguments but no mutual abuse as fair as I remember. We're all so... lovely.

By the way - decent email in under 500 characters could go a little something like this: 'Fancy a drink some time?'

My powerbook did something weird last night – any ideas? The menu under the apple icon got reduced to just 2 or 3 items like log out, sleep and force quit. Some setting I cocked up in Butler i think, but can't work out how to change it. There was an option to have the expanded menu but it didn't do anything. Better uninstall butler I suppose.

beanz (beanz), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 15:37 (twenty years ago)

MALWARE

g-clit (g-kit), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 15:39 (twenty years ago)

I stick my finger up on ILX, I attract shit. Doesn't matter if I go on a rampage calling people cnuts or just sit quietly on threads talking about typographical libraries and the English weather. Must be my caustic personality. :-/

Damn, Beanz, that would have been too sensible a thing for me to have said. Oh well. If he replies to this one, I'll give it a go. Would it be antisocial to link to his profile?

Lady Totteringby-Gently (kate), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 15:40 (twenty years ago)

Yes. But we all know you're going to do it anyway.

beanz (beanz), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 15:43 (twenty years ago)

I find the whole thing weird Kate, because I've never seen you be anything other than lovely! Moreso in real life.

tissp! (the impossible shortest specia), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 15:49 (twenty years ago)

Well, then I will defy your expectations. :-P

x-post

Lady Totteringby-Gently (kate), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 15:49 (twenty years ago)

Argh. Just got a message from the Sys Admin saying that my Oracle server will be down until FRIDAY! Argh!

Also I have just hand-coded 21 conditional formatting functions. Why can't I just copy them and paste them? or better yet format paint? I should have numbered them instead of coding because they're all called confusing things like ConFeeAmnt and TeamFeeAmnt and TeamProcAmnt.

Lady Totteringby-Gently (kate), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 16:05 (twenty years ago)

I was going to say – before my phone rang – better not on second thoughts
xpost

beanz (beanz), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 16:20 (twenty years ago)

Yeah, I think twice about posting almost anything on ILX these days. :-(

Just shelled out £250 for my solicitor. Bah. Though I kind of like the idea of having a solicitor. :-) Any problems? SPEAK TO MY SOLICITOR!

Lady Totteringby-Gently (kate), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 16:22 (twenty years ago)

Did you ever come across a website, and read the topics in their header and just think... my god, I'm marketed to? Guess the site. (It should be obvious.)

-Nature
--Wildlife
--Plants
-Pursuits
--Equestrian
--Gardening
--Hunting
--Shooting
--Travel
-Property
--Country Houses
--Castles
--Etc.
-Rural Concerns
--Country Diary
--Windfarms
--Environment
-::name of site::
--art
--architecture
--book reviews
--food and drink
--interior design
--antiques

If only they had a messageboard...

Lady Totteringby-Gently (kate), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 17:15 (twenty years ago)

How to trim your hedge! What time of the year stoats' coats turn!

If only they had a section on TWEED life would be good.

Tweed as F*ck (kate), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 17:19 (twenty years ago)

Yeah, I think twice about posting almost anything on ILX these days. :-(

:0((((

amon (eman), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 17:52 (twenty years ago)

Good morning
It's cold
Why did my flatmate turn down the hot water temperature last night? I had a lukewarm shower and it put me in a mood.

beanz (beanz), Thursday, 17 November 2005 10:24 (twenty years ago)

bloody freezing.

Pashmina (Pashmina), Thursday, 17 November 2005 10:26 (twenty years ago)

Yes, you know it's bad when you can see your breath plainly and clearly IN YOUR CAR

tissp! (the impossible shortest specia), Thursday, 17 November 2005 10:45 (twenty years ago)

In *the* mood, beanz?

Yeah, it is a bit cold, but conversely our heating was in full effect this morning so my core temperature was up to normal by the time I left the house, so the walk over the Thames and up through W1 was actually pretty pleasant. I also got to wear my new scarf!

Markelby (Mark C), Thursday, 17 November 2005 10:51 (twenty years ago)

took us by surprise, i lowered my bedroom radiator temp last night. doh!

Ste (Fuzzy), Thursday, 17 November 2005 10:58 (twenty years ago)

I typed a post about school showers but thank god it got lost in a poxy fule

beanz (beanz), Thursday, 17 November 2005 10:59 (twenty years ago)

Morning, morning, morning, peoples! Good mood today!

Oooh, I like your new scarf, Barry! It looks quite Brideshead Revisted (yes, I know Oxford oldschool, my mum had one).

I like the cold and the frosty! Though blimey, yes, I was glad of the powershower this morning. I don't have a car, but I object to seeing my breath IN THE BATHROOM.

I had to turn up the heat last night for rehearsal. Amazing how short the cigarette breaks are in this weather, tee hee. But plenty of scope for mulled wine. Oh god yes, mulled wine season, mmmmmm.

Marianna and came up with the BEST CAKE IDEA EVAH!!! after discovering the super-yum of dipping our chocolate chip cookies in our mulled wine. Sticky and brown indeed.

Tweed as F*ck (kate), Thursday, 17 November 2005 11:06 (twenty years ago)

bah! poxy fule. It's getting a lot more frequent I've noticed.

Ste (Fuzzy), Thursday, 17 November 2005 11:07 (twenty years ago)

i'm refusing to up the temperature or increase the timers on the central heating or to dig out the big jumpers until december 1st.

koogs (koogs), Thursday, 17 November 2005 11:11 (twenty years ago)

I've had the jumpers out all week. Ooooh, I love my jumpers. I've got my grey one on today.

Tweed as F*ck (kate), Thursday, 17 November 2005 11:12 (twenty years ago)

it's all about the layers.

I need to do some clothes shopping soon, I'm certainly lacking in any decent thick jumpers or indeed a decent comfy coat.

Ste (Fuzzy), Thursday, 17 November 2005 11:17 (twenty years ago)

I love layering clothes. Today I have on - thick black tights (I love when it gets cold enough for proper tights), tweed skirt (damn, I left out my petticoat, another layer I could have worn!), undershirt, shirt, jumper (pullover, darling...) - and when I was outside I had also a tweed jacket, scarf and my boiled wool hat. I feel so toasty and bundled up!

Tweed as F*ck (kate), Thursday, 17 November 2005 11:22 (twenty years ago)

it's amazing how much difference a hat and scarf can make, especially with my baldy head.

And thick socks, sometimes two pair.

Ste (Fuzzy), Thursday, 17 November 2005 11:42 (twenty years ago)

I'm going to buy socks today. Oooh-weee.

beanz (beanz), Thursday, 17 November 2005 11:47 (twenty years ago)

I need to buy new socks. I want to get colourful ones. Also I'm contemplating getting coloured tights, but suspect they might make my ankles look thick. And my legs are the one part of my body that still have a decent shape due to all the walking I do. Sigh.

Tweed as F*ck (kate), Thursday, 17 November 2005 11:48 (twenty years ago)

Ha ha ha! I spoke too soon. Turns out there is a forum. Let's see how long I last.

Tweed as F*ck (kate), Thursday, 17 November 2005 12:56 (twenty years ago)

Where's JB and G-kit today?

Don't tell me they've joined the mass ILX migration to LiveJournal... :-(

Tweed as F*ck (kate), Thursday, 17 November 2005 13:16 (twenty years ago)

I am, also, bloody freezing in my office today.

There's a mass migration to LiveJournal? Nobody told me about it!

Forest Pines (ForestPines), Thursday, 17 November 2005 13:17 (twenty years ago)

kate what are you on about? on both your posts.

Ste (Fuzzy), Thursday, 17 November 2005 13:22 (twenty years ago)

Well, all the Freaky Trigger crew have gone to LJ. Am I weird for just not liking LJ? Just one more thing to register for, and I can't be bothered.

(In fact I think I did actually once join, but it was only cause I couldn't read the slashpr0n without joining.)

Tweed as F*ck (kate), Thursday, 17 November 2005 13:22 (twenty years ago)

this has been a strange week

Ste (Fuzzy), Thursday, 17 November 2005 13:36 (twenty years ago)

Oh, and sorry for not seeing your post up there - I haven't actually been on LiveJournal, I've been on the Country Life website.

Tweed as F*ck (kate), Thursday, 17 November 2005 13:45 (twenty years ago)

Isn't LiveJournal just a blog system? Why has everyone ran off to make blogs?
Actually don't answer, not sure I care anymore.

Ste (Fuzzy), Thursday, 17 November 2005 13:59 (twenty years ago)

I think it's more about doing communities. Honestly, it just looks like a fancy way of making a members only log-in only elitist circlejerk messageboard.

But you know, with the way things have been going recently, I'm not so convinced that isn't such a bad idea. (Too many negatives? Don't know.)

Tweed as F*ck (kate), Thursday, 17 November 2005 14:03 (twenty years ago)

I've lost the power of grammar.

Tweed as F*ck (kate), Thursday, 17 November 2005 14:03 (twenty years ago)

hey, i'm here. not much to say though.
livejournal? i'm not a teenage goth, k thx plz.

g-clit (g-kit), Thursday, 17 November 2005 14:04 (twenty years ago)

eek it has pictures and things. I can only just about get away with having text-only-ilx on my screen at work let alone avatars. No fank you.

the prince of wales is visiting our humble town tomorrow, to award military medals or something at the town hall. (my mate will be serving him drinks)

Ste (Fuzzy), Thursday, 17 November 2005 14:09 (twenty years ago)

i bet he doesn't tip.

g-clit (g-kit), Thursday, 17 November 2005 14:12 (twenty years ago)

Oh, but his butler does...

Tweed as F*ck (kate), Thursday, 17 November 2005 14:14 (twenty years ago)

I don't understand LiveJournal. Actually, I don't understand why so many people use it.

tissp! (the impossible shortest specia), Thursday, 17 November 2005 14:15 (twenty years ago)

morning all! i don't get that livejournal thing.

groo. went out for h's birthday last night to teh PUB an it was ace, ended up crashing at hers and have just got home an hour ago.

emsk ( emsk), Thursday, 17 November 2005 14:16 (twenty years ago)

LJ's no different than any other blog, really. I used to derride blogs until I got one and realised how compulsive it is.

How was H's bday party? Sounds like it was fun! I wanted to go but rehearsal and all. Make her start posting on ILX. I know she reads it because she sent me unsalubrious gossip about hott hott James MacAvoy and his leather trews.

Tweed as F*ck (kate), Thursday, 17 November 2005 14:26 (twenty years ago)

Tee hee hee, I changed the photo on my profile (dating site) from the promo photo for Elephants to the new one I posted on WDYLL, and all of a sudden I'm getting a marked increase in responses. Funny, that.

The Cartographer wrote back. He sounds really cool and funny.

Tweed as F*ck (kate), Thursday, 17 November 2005 15:06 (twenty years ago)

LJ's no different than any other blog, really. I used to derride blogs until I got one and realised how compulsive it is.

hm, i was thinking of doing one, just to make myself write regularly really.

How was H's bday party? Sounds like it was fun! I wanted to go but rehearsal and all.

it was good fun - smallish - her and me and the russian and the belgian and the german and the scot and her whippersnapper housemate barman - who gave us free cocktails, yeeha! bloody good thing too as it is VERY EXPENSIVE there - 2 glasses of wine cost nearly nine quid. then we went home and drank some more and ranted and giggled.

Make her start posting on ILX. I know she reads it because she sent me unsalubrious gossip about hott hott James MacAvoy and his leather trews.

heheh, i bain't making her do anything! she does read from time to time i think but she only has dialup. who is james mcavoy? i am rubbish at knowing who anyone is.

The Cartographer wrote back. He sounds really cool and funny.

ooh! aces. where does he live?

i am going to brighton tonight but cute boy cannot come out to play because he's babysitting his niece, bah.

emsk ( emsk), Thursday, 17 November 2005 15:18 (twenty years ago)

The one with the amazing nose on the right:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/drama/shakespeare/macbeth/images/450x187/backstage.jpg

Apparently one of her friends (housemates?) went to drama school with him.

Get a blog, Emsk! But get it on Blogspot so I can leave you funny messages.

Bah, Cute Brighton Boy sounds rubbish, he never seems to be around. Will find out where Cartographer lives - I think London.

Tweed as F*ck (kate), Thursday, 17 November 2005 15:31 (twenty years ago)

nowadays this thread is the only one that makes any sense to me

Ste (Fuzzy), Thursday, 17 November 2005 16:50 (twenty years ago)

i don't like blogs anymore.
when people rant or moan at me in real life, i end up thinking/saying "myah, tell it to your blog."
i think dog latin coined that one.

g-clit (g-kit), Thursday, 17 November 2005 16:52 (twenty years ago)

I know this would provoke outrage if I said it anywhere else, but ILX only makes sense to me any more in certain timezones. I am becoming very insular.

(And don't you dare say "what do you mean, becoming?")

I like blogs, but only when they belong to people I know, who I wouldn't really mind listening to whinge in real life over a bottle of wine.

Heh heh. I have been saving this piece of pie for hours now, since lunch - despite the fact that it has been CALLING to me, and everyone else in my office the whole time. So I started singing Pi as I walked back from the kitchen. Colleagues just shake their heads and grin tolerantly.

Tweed as F*ck (kate), Thursday, 17 November 2005 16:58 (twenty years ago)

i stopped doing blogs about my hum drum life, i just felt like i was going around in circles with hardly any escape time - quite depressing if like me you don't get out much. So now my blogs (all 3 of em) consist of my writing about stuff I love talking about, my programming, my GTA time, and my retro gaming.

Ste (Fuzzy), Thursday, 17 November 2005 17:03 (twenty years ago)

See, mostly I write about my band, about how rehearsals and songwriting are going.

But I'm a member of another group blog which is just about Things We Hate. It's good fun, and just a really good cathartic way of blowing off steam in a way which is sometimes really, really funny. I think keeping it lighthearted like that is a good idea. It's when it's just endless whinging with no humour at all that it gets depressing.

Tweed as F*ck (kate), Thursday, 17 November 2005 17:06 (twenty years ago)

ooh ooh, just remembered, that magazine I wrote a few words for, well if you care to read it pls go here http://www.wah-magazine.com/WAH%20Magazine%201.pdf

Panther Pink (Pinkpanther), Thursday, 17 November 2005 17:09 (twenty years ago)

i do get out much, and i have thoughts about the stuff i do/see when i am out and then i forget them, so a blog might be good...

lady em was there too last night, how did i forget that? i am rubbish.

emsk ( emsk), Thursday, 17 November 2005 17:55 (twenty years ago)

morning... anyone there?

emsk ( emsk), Friday, 18 November 2005 10:53 (twenty years ago)

Morning - not only am I here but I have a thread about me! Oh joy.

Markelby (Mark C), Friday, 18 November 2005 11:03 (twenty years ago)

Good morning
fridayfridayfridayfridayfriday

beanz (beanz), Friday, 18 November 2005 11:10 (twenty years ago)

Sooooooooooo glad it's Friday! Morning all!

Panther Pink (Pinkpanther), Friday, 18 November 2005 11:13 (twenty years ago)

My hangover says good morning. Oh my lord, went out for my colleague's birthday and we were dancing until 2am. We did NOT go to the Spanish Bar, but got pretty close.

How's everyone else feeling? Apart from the Friday Feeling?

Tweed as F*ck (kate), Friday, 18 November 2005 11:14 (twenty years ago)

(Yes, I'm late. Part of that was oversleeping but an HOUR of that was Southern Trains completely screwing up every train in South London.)

Tweed as F*ck (kate), Friday, 18 November 2005 11:15 (twenty years ago)

heheh sounds fun kate! it's good when you're not the only one wandering around in a haze.

i saw the customers last night in brighton, they were totally fantastic, they always are when they're not nervous about stuff. and they did song for... which i've not seen them do for ages. and your old flatmate came as well and i've not seen him since july so that was cool too.

emsk ( emsk), Friday, 18 November 2005 11:18 (twenty years ago)

Oh, that sounds cool. How's he doing? Have you seen his new flat? It's lovely. Yay, Customers. Was the hott one who plays guitar through an amp just like mine playing with them again?

Tweed as F*ck (kate), Friday, 18 November 2005 11:21 (twenty years ago)

Oh! I just saw your link, Pink. (that rhymes, tee hee.) Looks really cool. What page are you on? I will download it and read it at lunch.

Tweed as F*ck (kate), Friday, 18 November 2005 11:25 (twenty years ago)

It's only a few lines, it was supposed to be a build up to a piece in the next issue, but I can't complete all of the second part as I'm not really in a position to sleep on a street again for a pair of shoes (for obvious reasons). I guess my career in writing for this mag will be short lived. I'm pretty gutted actually.

Panther Pink (Pinkpanther), Friday, 18 November 2005 11:31 (twenty years ago)

he's fine, loving brighton i think! ain't seen the flat - i got there at like 8.30 so we went to pub then gig then i had to get the train. and yeh he was playing with them. but they are ALL hott, like.

emsk ( emsk), Friday, 18 November 2005 11:36 (twenty years ago)

Awww, Pink. Surely you can carry on being a commentator? It seems like a really cool mag - looks good, at least.

Actually, Emsk, yes, they are all hott. But the one I fancy is the hottest cause he has the same guitar amp as me, which automatically makes him about 10x hotter.

Yay, the Cartographer wrote back, all about architecture and canalboats and the Beam Engine (he's been to the Beam Engine!) I'm just flabbergasted about how intelligent he is, and how he knows all about the kind of things I'm interested in. He's talking about the Booth Map and going "I can't believe you let me ramble about this stuff" and I'm all "Ohmigod, I can't believe you also know about this stuff!"

Sigh. Though there was a super cute pointy nosed ginger boy at O'Neill's last night (yes, that's where we ended up, don't laugh) but I was too shy to talk to him, even though he was kind of giving me the eye. My colleague offered to go up and talk to him, man to man, but I got scared, and besides, I was trying to babysit the Finn at that point.

Tweed as F*ck (kate), Friday, 18 November 2005 11:41 (twenty years ago)

Awww, Pink. Surely you can carry on being a commentator? It seems like a really cool mag - looks good, at least.
I don't see how it can be done you know?! :-(

Panther Pink (Pinkpanther), Friday, 18 November 2005 11:43 (twenty years ago)

What kids need is more tweed:
http://www.guardian.co.uk/g2/story/0,,1644163,00.html

koogs (koogs), Friday, 18 November 2005 11:48 (twenty years ago)

where is your bit in the mag pink?

emsk ( emsk), Friday, 18 November 2005 11:49 (twenty years ago)

I'm really not sure I understand. I've got too much of a hangover on to figure out if that's parody or shoreditch twattery but it did make me laugh like a drain.

Tweed as F*ck (kate), Friday, 18 November 2005 11:50 (twenty years ago)

ah, found it! how come you can't keep doing stuff for them?

god, i have been getting chronic deja vu all morning.

emsk ( emsk), Friday, 18 November 2005 11:53 (twenty years ago)

it's the people from Chap Magazine. which i think means it qualifies for both.

http://www.thechap.net/manifesto2.html

koogs (koogs), Friday, 18 November 2005 12:04 (twenty years ago)

Good looking mag - I'll read it at lunch I hope
I'm a bit stressed with work :( Just a bit too much to do

beanz (beanz), Friday, 18 November 2005 12:06 (twenty years ago)

Oh god, I find that Chap thing curiously appealing. OH GOD I'M GETTING OLD AND HAVE BEEN READING COUNTRY LIFE TOO MUCH. Which reminds me, I should see if any irate farmers have replied on the Rambling thread on the CL boards.

Tweed as F*ck (kate), Friday, 18 November 2005 12:08 (twenty years ago)

ah, found it! how come you can't keep doing stuff for them?
Kate can fill you in! :-)

Right I'm off to meet my boy for lunch! See you all this afternoon!

Panther Pink (Pinkpanther), Friday, 18 November 2005 12:09 (twenty years ago)

Have a good lunch, chick! Say hi to your boy from me.

Tweed as F*ck (kate), Friday, 18 November 2005 12:11 (twenty years ago)

Hahaha the Chap is the funniest thing ever. Purely for the wrestling cover they did a while ago.

tissp! (the impossible shortest specia), Friday, 18 November 2005 12:17 (twenty years ago)

Last night, I learned how to swear in Finnish!!! painu vittuum!

Emsk, did you ever find out for us how to say f*ck off in Welsh?

Tweed as F*ck (kate), Friday, 18 November 2005 12:24 (twenty years ago)

best exam answer ever:

http://www.flickr.com/photos/97388357@N00/64466050/

argh i can't remember how to say fuck off in welsh! bro suggests something like "cacha bant" but that doesn't look right although it sounds familiar.

emsk ( emsk), Friday, 18 November 2005 13:03 (twenty years ago)

Bwah hah hah hah! You actually reduced the entire accounts team to tears of laughter over that.

Tweed as F*ck (kate), Friday, 18 November 2005 13:06 (twenty years ago)

aces :) there must be a teach yourself to swear all over the world site somewhere, surely?

emsk ( emsk), Friday, 18 November 2005 13:08 (twenty years ago)

I don't think it counts unless you are actually taught by a person who speaks the language. Maybe Simon will know. Actually, no, he knows less Welsh than you do.

Tweed as F*ck (kate), Friday, 18 November 2005 13:10 (twenty years ago)

cacha = shit

cnychu = fuck

Onimo (GerryNemo), Friday, 18 November 2005 13:10 (twenty years ago)

(as verbs, that is)

Onimo (GerryNemo), Friday, 18 November 2005 13:11 (twenty years ago)

so "cynchi ti"?

emsk ( emsk), Friday, 18 November 2005 13:11 (twenty years ago)

I think so. I'm emailing a Welsh person to ask. Googling suggests lots of variants, including 'ffwcia oma' - which looks brilliantly Welsh.

Onimo (GerryNemo), Friday, 18 November 2005 13:14 (twenty years ago)

See, this is the problem, I've no idea how to pronounce any of these. However, with the Finnish, I know how to pronounce it because it was told to me. Had to check the spelling this morning when neither of us were drunk in a bar, but still.

Blimey, half my department has now left and gone home at lunchtime. Do you think that either me or the Finn will get anything done?

Tweed as F*ck (kate), Friday, 18 November 2005 13:15 (twenty years ago)

That last one looks like it's pronounced 'fuck yer ma'.

Just back from Hummus Bros on Wardour St. Hadn't been before and it wasn't bad

beanz (beanz), Friday, 18 November 2005 13:40 (twenty years ago)

Mmmm, hummus, that reminds me, it's time for lunch I think.

Ha ha, just got that f*ck yer ma thing, tee hee. I am so easily amused today.

Tweed as F*ck (kate), Friday, 18 November 2005 13:42 (twenty years ago)

I go there all the time, beanz! Which one did you get? I like the mushroom topping and the fava bean topping - but both the lemon/garlic and the chilli sauces are urgent and key.

Markelby (Mark C), Friday, 18 November 2005 13:43 (twenty years ago)

"oma" doesn't look welsh to me, but it's been a while so what do i know? "ffwcia" is a GREAT word! pronounce it like a person from the norf would say "fuck", then "ia" as it looks. emphasis on 1st syllable.

emsk ( emsk), Friday, 18 November 2005 13:45 (twenty years ago)

Had the cauliflower special and shared an aubergine side. Chilli was good but the guy behind the counter tried to get me to put it down -

Him: 'Hey it's really hot'
Me: 'Ok'
Him: 'No really, it's really hot, it's chilli'
Me: 'Ok'
Him: 'No shit! Really hot! Don't say I didn't warn you' ... etc.

So of course I was expecting some hideous super-strength eating-the-sun kind of chilli and it was a bit anti-climactic.

beanz (beanz), Friday, 18 November 2005 14:02 (twenty years ago)

Maybe the guy was just a pussy Beanz! Either that or you had the last piece that he had his eye on!

Panther Pink (Pinkpanther), Friday, 18 November 2005 14:05 (twenty years ago)

I mean it's not like I have superhuman chilli-eating powers or anything. These crazy Israelis...

beanz (beanz), Friday, 18 November 2005 14:13 (twenty years ago)

First time I tried the chilli I wasn't expecting it to be as hot as it was, but since I've known that, I've just been careful to spread it around properly :)

Cauliflower, eh? Was this the "topping of the day" or whatever?

They're very friendly in there - almost too much so. I find it a bit odd that it's only been open a month or so and yet the beardy bloke who makes up your order asumes what I'm going to have before I actually tell them.

Markelby (Mark C), Friday, 18 November 2005 14:16 (twenty years ago)

Yep, the other special was lentil. They should advertise the specials outside I think, cos I saw lots of people reading the menu outside and then wandering off, I guess because the menu looks pretty small. And if they added falafel I'd be there every day probably.

Too much food = sleepy afternoon again

beanz (beanz), Friday, 18 November 2005 14:25 (twenty years ago)

Hehe - I had Thai from Thai West on Brewer Street and I should be asleep by now, but for some reason I'm not. Maybe a coffee is a good move for keeping this state of affairs going. You presumably go to Maoz regularly?

Markelby (Mark C), Friday, 18 November 2005 14:32 (twenty years ago)

I've never been, unaccountably, but you aren't the first person to recommend it to me!

beanz (beanz), Friday, 18 November 2005 14:41 (twenty years ago)

Dude you MUST! Highly recommended: the garlic, coriander and chilli sauces, the gherkins, the chillis, the deep-fried cauliflower (omg so delicious), and the chips.

Markelby (Mark C), Friday, 18 November 2005 14:43 (twenty years ago)

You two are making me SOOOOOO hungry and I've just had lunch!

Yay, the valuation came back on my house and it is mortgagable so they are going to go ahead now! Hurrah!

Tweed as F*ck (kate), Friday, 18 November 2005 14:45 (twenty years ago)

Yay Kate, that's great news!

Panther Pink (Pinkpanther), Friday, 18 November 2005 14:46 (twenty years ago)

How do you say 'f**k off" in Welsh? Googling gives
conflicting answers.

...

Probably because Welsh lacks the English obsession with
excretion and fornication and so doesn't base obscenities
around such activities, real obscenities tend to be
blasphemous - "I'r diawl ati di" (to the devil with you) for
example. If you want a literal translation you really have to
borrow the English word - "Ffwchia dy hunan" (go fuck yourself).

...

Thanks. Closest I found to that was ffwchia oma (which
phonetically at least looks to like 'fuck yer ma').

...

Probably meant to be "Ffwchia yma" - "fuck this".

Welsh has a real problem with swearing - now the chapel culture is more or less dead the old blasphemies no longer have the force they used to, with the result there is a sad lack of profanities available to the modern Welsh speaker. Hence the need to borrow words like this.

Onimo (GerryNemo), Friday, 18 November 2005 15:05 (twenty years ago)

Mark that sounds GOOD.
Yay Kate that's really cool

beanz (beanz), Friday, 18 November 2005 15:09 (twenty years ago)

I am v. v. v. pleased. However, I do have to write and ask the estate agent now if the seller is going to do anything about the DAMP PATCH which the surveyor flagged up, like I ASKED them to do when I put the bid in. Otherwise, it could take up to £1000 of work. Sigh.

Tweed as F*ck (kate), Friday, 18 November 2005 15:21 (twenty years ago)

grrrr.

g-clit (g-kit), Friday, 18 November 2005 15:38 (twenty years ago)

people be hating today.

g-clit (g-kit), Friday, 18 November 2005 15:53 (twenty years ago)

I'm too hungover to hate.

Tweed as F*ck (kate), Friday, 18 November 2005 15:54 (twenty years ago)

keep drinking and we'll always be friends.

g-clit (g-kit), Friday, 18 November 2005 15:55 (twenty years ago)

who be hated g-clit?

Ste (Fuzzy), Friday, 18 November 2005 16:00 (twenty years ago)

Well, I wasn't too hungover to write the Cartographer back. He even has a great name, too.

Anyway, I'm just going to enjoy the "wow" feeling right now, while it lasts. Remembering not to get too excited, recalling what happened last time I got all excited about someone based on email correspondance alone.

Tweed as F*ck (kate), Friday, 18 November 2005 16:00 (twenty years ago)

g-clit be hated, yo

g-clit (g-kit), Friday, 18 November 2005 16:01 (twenty years ago)

i think my cross words cherry got popped.

g-clit (g-kit), Friday, 18 November 2005 16:06 (twenty years ago)

sorry i meant 'who be hatin g-clit?'

Ste (Fuzzy), Friday, 18 November 2005 16:08 (twenty years ago)

IT hipsters be hatin'

g-clit (g-kit), Friday, 18 November 2005 16:09 (twenty years ago)

i feel a roundhouse kick comin on

Ste (Fuzzy), Friday, 18 November 2005 16:13 (twenty years ago)

That's just JW. Ignore him.

Sigh. BJ lookylike came downstairs but left by the other stairwell that doesn't go past my desk. I think he's on to me. :-/

Tweed as F*ck (kate), Friday, 18 November 2005 16:15 (twenty years ago)

Oh, wait, not, that was Jess. Ignore him, too. He's just like the cranky old man of ILX.

Tweed as F*ck (kate), Friday, 18 November 2005 16:16 (twenty years ago)

He hates on everyone. It means you've arrived or something.

Tweed as F*ck (kate), Friday, 18 November 2005 16:16 (twenty years ago)

i just got a call off my HRH drink serving dude. He told me how the prince likes his earl grey. he also told me how he got accosted by special branch behind the building because he went for a shit and forget his council id badge.

Ste (Fuzzy), Friday, 18 November 2005 16:24 (twenty years ago)

oh, i forgot. i am nu ilx, and therefore the enemy. also hated on by someone else on another thread for having a 'bad name'. ok. i like ilx.

g-kit@home, Friday, 18 November 2005 17:20 (twenty years ago)

g-kit, even if other people hate you, we still love you. And your anime hair. And especially your jaguar. So bollocks to them.

Tweed as F*ck (kate), Friday, 18 November 2005 17:22 (twenty years ago)

Don't be down, G – fuck em. It's the weekend anyway.
Have fun y'all

beanz (beanz), Friday, 18 November 2005 17:54 (twenty years ago)

Good morning, everyone. How were your weekends?

ssssshhhh, I've got a secret:

I've got a date tonight

Eeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeep!

Tweed as F*ck (kate), Monday, 21 November 2005 08:46 (twenty years ago)

Wahey!

This is clearly a Good Thing.

My weekend was interesting, I was reluctantly dragged to visit the g/f's folks. She'd told them I'd cook sunday lunch (for ten, thanks), she'd also told them that I'm fairly handy in the kitchen, so expectations were running high. What she neglected to tell them is that I'm also a bit of a control freak in the kitchen, and get very aggravated if people start offering advice. Or if people's mum's stand around saying "oh, I wouldn't do that", or "I never add salt until after" or "not that temperature." G/f could see I was getting wound up and kept trying to usher her mother out of the kitchen, whilst calm me down. I could see I was upsetting her, which in turn wound me up further. Dinner was a big success, everyone loved it and I then had to suffer the smouldering resentment of mum who, I suspect, wanted me very much to fail. It didn't help when the g/f's brother blithely asked if I'd come round to cook Christmas lunch too. Gaaah, social tension.

Matt (Matt), Monday, 21 November 2005 09:15 (twenty years ago)

Argh, that sounds hellish! I was terrified that that was what Xmas with the Gr1gs0ns was going to be like, but they were fine. *My* mum, though, is forever sticking her nose in my cooking even though she is a TERRIBLE cook. I guess the better the chef, the more they know how to keep out of other cooks' way.

At least the dinner was a success, even if the family tension was a bit of a mare!

Tweed as F*ck (kate), Monday, 21 November 2005 09:30 (twenty years ago)

yay kate! is this the cartographer?

bloody hell matt :( damned if you do, etc.

am working today so not pissing around on here all day. we went to shinky shonky on fri night and it was SO MUCH FUN.

emsk ( emsk), Monday, 21 November 2005 09:34 (twenty years ago)

Yes, the Cartographer.

I set him a test, saying I would meet him for drinks in the pub in the one bit of London which is really in Cambridgeshire AND HE KNEW EXACTLY WHERE I WAS TALKING ABOUT!!! Hurrah! Even if we do not fancy each other at all, I think it will be very very fun.

Yay for working but boo for not pissing around with us. Did you go to Johnney's party on Saturday? Did he even *have* a party on Saturday? JB, where ARE you? I had it written down in my diary but never got any email telling me where it was so I stayed home and read the Guardian and Country Life and Period Home and planned the interior decoration of my new house.

Which I may not get now because the survey came back about the awful DAMP!!! which wants £1000 of work on it. Bah.

Tweed as F*ck (kate), Monday, 21 November 2005 09:38 (twenty years ago)

Damn poxy fule! grrrrrr!


Yay Kate - how exciting!
Matt - that sounds pretty awful!
G-kit - ignore the c*nts of ILE! I know it's tough though, because there are a lot of them!

Panther Pink (Pinkpanther), Monday, 21 November 2005 09:39 (twenty years ago)

Sorry, I think that Poxy Fule was my fault for trying to make the Swearing thread reg users only. How you doing, Pink?

Tweed as F*ck (kate), Monday, 21 November 2005 09:41 (twenty years ago)

Morning

Everyone's worst nightmare Matt, but at least everyone liked the food. So you only pissed off one person... Do you cook better when harassed?

Exciting Kate!

I went to the Tate yesterday for the Turner prize stuff and the Degas/Sickert/Toulouse-Lautrec. Turner stuff was interesting but not spectacular. Degas etc were spectacular but boring somehow. Too big maybe, if that's possible. Degas pervy, Sickert cold. Toulouse-Lautrec pwns.

beanz (beanz), Monday, 21 November 2005 09:42 (twenty years ago)

Seems that way at the mo, doesn't it? I do wonder what makes so many people so very grumpy. Maybe they all need a nice cup of tea. That's why I tend to hide on Cooking and Books, these days.

xpost

Matt (Matt), Monday, 21 November 2005 09:42 (twenty years ago)

nah i didn't go to his party - dunno if it happened but anyway i was at s&r's house where we drank too much and i fell off the bed.

i want to see the man/horse in country life please! that sucks about the damp though... is it possible to make the current owners sort it out?

and work is good, i am v up for it. they liked my press release too hurrah! (i was a bit nervous about it)

emsk ( emsk), Monday, 21 November 2005 09:45 (twenty years ago)

So the Turner stuff wasn't that great this year, Beanz? I always mean to go, but I never do. I just don't think that the artists really do their best work for the Turner show, as they know they'll be judged on their reputations. Don't know who I fancy this year.

x-post - he's lovely, as is the horse. I am glad that he is real, because he just looked like something out of a fairy tale when I saw him. The horse had really really long hair, and he had sort of golden dreadlocks. They looked so dreamlike, but they are v. cute in Country Life.

I have to ring the estate agents as I have been trying to make the vendor sort it out for weeks now. :-(

Tweed as F*ck (kate), Monday, 21 November 2005 09:48 (twenty years ago)

Morning all! T'internet was playing around all last week hence my silence - I got to do some work and finish my database tho! Yay!

Yay to Kate and her date! :)

Boo to people being nasty to g-kit! :(

Yay to Matt being l33t cook! :)

Boo to people being jealous of Matt's cooking skilz0rs :(

Yay to emsk and her friday night bounciness! :)

And yay to my random party - sorry I didn't get back to you about it guys, I only realised I invited you when I read back the thread today! You wouldn't have enjoyed it anyway - too much work people for my liking. I got beaten up by White Russians and was sparked out by 1 - how rubbish is that!

Come Back Johnny B (Johnney B), Monday, 21 November 2005 09:52 (twenty years ago)

Poor show ;-)

Do you cook better when harassed?

Only when I'm doing it for money.

Kate that is v. v. annoying about the damp. It's sortable but extremely irritating. How widespread is it?

Matt (Matt), Monday, 21 November 2005 09:59 (twenty years ago)

Yay for Johnney being back. You ruined my weekend, you. :-(

It's only in one corner of one room. It's so easily sortable, but honestly - when I put in the offer on the flat, I said that it was conditional on the vendor sorting it out. Thing is, it's not a big job. All you'd have to do is take out the covering on the wall, spray it with the same kind of sealant you use on the interior of swimming pools, then cover it back up.

But the vendor is a developer - I bet he knows loads of builders and the like, or else he might even be able to do it himself if he's a self developer type. If I do it, it's going to take twice as much time or twice as much money because I don't know what I'm doing and would have to ring a builder from the phone book. :-(

Tweed as F*ck (kate), Monday, 21 November 2005 10:02 (twenty years ago)

Really annoying about the damp. £1,000 is a lot of cash but in terms of getting rid of it, that doesn't sound outrageous. But yes they should be doing it not you. Edited this post so much cos of xposts and it doesn't really need saying any more, but dammit if I'm going to give up now.

beanz (beanz), Monday, 21 November 2005 10:06 (twenty years ago)

I ruined your weekend? Oh sorry my love - I'll make it up to you. I'll bake you a cake - how's that? I could even sort your damp out for you, a few J-cloths and you'll be fine.

Come Back Johnny B (Johnney B), Monday, 21 November 2005 10:09 (twenty years ago)

Bake me a carrot cake, and everything will be forgiven.

Sigh, alas, if it were that simple, don't you think I would have done it? I was hoping that was what the surveyors would say but no. It isn't damp, it's Damp.

Could be worse, apparently in Wales, it Rises.

Tweed as F*ck (kate), Monday, 21 November 2005 10:11 (twenty years ago)

So. Does anyone have any dating tips?

Apart from "relax" and "be yourself". I'm wearing my new jumper and my new bra.

I suppose my nervousness will increase as the day goes by.

The Damp Is Rising (kate), Monday, 21 November 2005 10:29 (twenty years ago)

The worst that can happen is you end up with a great story about how awful it was.

beanz (beanz), Monday, 21 November 2005 10:30 (twenty years ago)

Ha ha, now you point that out, I'm actually hoping it will be awful.

No, wait... argh!

The Damp Is Rising (kate), Monday, 21 November 2005 10:32 (twenty years ago)

Try and enjoy it, I guess. Where are you going?

Matt (Matt), Monday, 21 November 2005 10:32 (twenty years ago)

Just to a pub. My idea being, we can meet up for a drink first, and if we don't think each other are too awful, we can go on for a meal. I guess. I don't really know - it's been so long since I went on a date. I suppose I should have planned an activity. But the planned activity is picking his brain for his amazing cartographical knowledge. (Dude! His job is to look at aireal photographs! My job is to pretend I'm working while secretly I'm looking at aerial photos on GoogleEarth.)

The Damp Is Rising (kate), Monday, 21 November 2005 10:37 (twenty years ago)

Pub is good, particularly if it's one you know. It's not a particularly pressured situation and it's always nice to have the date on one's own turf. Also, BOOZE. I think it will go swimmingly.

Matt (Matt), Monday, 21 November 2005 10:42 (twenty years ago)

It's a pub that neither of us have been to in a while, so it's pretty much neutral territory.

I don't like taking guys to mine own local pub on a first date, because if things go HORRIBLY WRONG then they will know where you hang out all the time.

I know that sounds paranoid, but I'm nothing if not paranoid. (If I don't turn up tomorrow, then ring the Cartographical Association and tell them that T0ph3r has absconded with your friend.)

The Damp Is Rising (kate), Monday, 21 November 2005 10:47 (twenty years ago)

Interrogate him on his views on modern art and see if he's up for a stroll around the Turner prize exhibits. If a gal suggested that to me I'd be smitten.

Come Back Johnny B (Johnney B), Monday, 21 November 2005 10:47 (twenty years ago)

I did actually once go on a first date to the Tate, but it was the Tate Modern. It was a very good date, and even though the relationship didn't work out, we are still v. good friends.

However, it's a Monday night and I don't think the place is open. :-(

The Damp Is Rising (kate), Monday, 21 November 2005 10:50 (twenty years ago)

Which pub is it Kate, because surely if it's in Cambridgeshire I can pop by & check him out! ;-)
Oh I've got all of Christmas off this year too, yay me!

Panther Pink (Pinkpanther), Monday, 21 November 2005 11:01 (twenty years ago)

Phew! That was a reprieve. I rang up the estate agent to give them the bad news about the survey, but neither of the people I could talk to were there! They will ring me back.

I so don't want to have this conversation. I just have to think what I want out of it.

1) The vendor to get a damp and timber specialist to examine and repair the property.

2) Failing that, if I have to pay for it, I will change my offer on the house to what the Valuation said.

3) If neither of those are agreed to, I am going to have to give up the flat. Obviously, this is a last resort, and I don't want to have to do it, as I've got so far. But I do not have £1000 floating around spare for unneccessary repairs. I know that in a worst case scenario, the vendor/agent is probably counting on me just backing down, as I've already got this far in the deal and spent money on it.

Argh, this is the hardest thing yet. Every single thing about buying a house is just nerve wracking, and each time I think "that has to be the hardest thing" something else awful comes up. Argh.

The Damp Is Rising (kate), Monday, 21 November 2005 13:38 (twenty years ago)

(Tee hee, I just looked up my case, which is terribly bad from a compliance point of view and I shouldn't have done it, but discovered that there is another K F13tch3r who is getting a mortgage for ONE MILLION POUNDS - perhaps I could just secretly switch with her?)

The Damp Is Rising (kate), Monday, 21 November 2005 13:56 (twenty years ago)

Oh wait, never mind, it's a bloke. That would be kind of hard to get away with.

The Damp Is Rising (kate), Monday, 21 November 2005 13:57 (twenty years ago)

"Kate? That's a funny name for a boy."

Come Back Johnny B (Johnney B), Monday, 21 November 2005 14:08 (twenty years ago)

Also, the repayments on a mortgage of £1,000,000 would probably be more than I make in a year.

The Damp Is Rising (kate), Monday, 21 November 2005 14:10 (twenty years ago)

I'm such a nerd that I actually had to go and calculate it. (I love my database.) £6326.49 a month in repayments at my interest rate. Ouch.

The Damp Is Rising (kate), Monday, 21 November 2005 14:12 (twenty years ago)

Surely it wouldn't be at your interest rate tho, not if it's a million pounds?

Write an email telling him he's being ripped off.

Come Back Johnny B (Johnney B), Monday, 21 November 2005 14:26 (twenty years ago)

"It's short for, um, Bob!"

Ste (Fuzzy), Monday, 21 November 2005 14:31 (twenty years ago)

That was a mean trick of mine cos I think it was Kate who said she hasn't seen Blackadder.

Come Back Johnny B (Johnney B), Monday, 21 November 2005 14:33 (twenty years ago)

I'm sorry, I haven't got a clue. What you're on about.

The Damp Is Rising (kate), Monday, 21 November 2005 14:34 (twenty years ago)

Blackadder = teh funny historical TV comedy from back in the day. Ben Elton did the writing before he was shit. Rowen Atkinson doing the funnying before HE was shit. Every episode from series 2 onwards = classic. Borrow it or something, or I can post it you, or something. You'll like it.

Come Back Johnny B (Johnney B), Monday, 21 November 2005 14:39 (twenty years ago)

I know what Blackadder *is*. It's what Tony Robinson did before he achieved TRUE GREATNESS in Time Team. I just didn't know that was where your rubbish jokes were coming from!

::ducks::

The Damp Is Rising (kate), Monday, 21 November 2005 14:40 (twenty years ago)

That's like saying the Beatles were what Paul McCartney did before achieving TRUE GREATNESS in Wings
(That gag © The Simpsons, 1826)

beanz (beanz), Monday, 21 November 2005 14:57 (twenty years ago)

Oh now you've gone and done it....

I'm feeling in a very good mood after a nice long lunch (which included getting about half the answers right on Brain of Britain - smugness ahoy!). I'm now toying between resuming combat with the guardian crossword, buggering about on ILE or doing some actual work.

Matt (Matt), Monday, 21 November 2005 15:00 (twenty years ago)

Is Brain of Britain always that easy? I only heard the first 10 mins or so but I was acing them all.

I'm toying with doing some work as well - curse you God for making ILE this way . . .

Come Back Johnny B (Johnney B), Monday, 21 November 2005 15:04 (twenty years ago)

But ILE is GOOD today for the first time in... well, ages!

And I'm sorry but I still prefer Time Team to Blackadder but that could just be because I've not got a sense of humour.

The Damp Is Rising (kate), Monday, 21 November 2005 15:07 (twenty years ago)

it did seem slightly easier than usual today, only easy if you know them etc etc

(I had a big row with my g/f after the mastermind final when I was insisting that the winner's general knowledge questions were way easier than the others, and she kept replying with infuriating reasonableness that they're only easy if you know the answers, to which I was raging but they were just EASIER DO YOU NOT SEE? and so forth)

Matt (Matt), Monday, 21 November 2005 15:24 (twenty years ago)

Phew! Once I finally got through, that was easier than I hoped. I explained the situation (and said that it was the mortgage company which wanted it dealt with) and the woman just asked to me to fax the valuation over (she was surprised I'd got it so quickly, but like I said, it's in-house so I get it as soon as the lender/financial advisor does) and said that she would deal with it.

And now I wait...

The Damp Is Rising (kate), Monday, 21 November 2005 16:40 (twenty years ago)

Even if the MM winner's questions were easier (which I don't nec think they were) shirley you agree he was the rightful winner?


http://www.screenselect.co.uk/images/products/5/3055-large.jpg

beanz (beanz), Monday, 21 November 2005 17:03 (twenty years ago)

Good luck Kate, with the mortgage, date and everything!

Markelby (Mark C), Monday, 21 November 2005 17:09 (twenty years ago)

Ha ha, thanks. At least my mortgage troubles are taking my mind off how nervous I am about the date, though it was supposed to be the other way around!

The Damp Is Rising (kate), Monday, 21 November 2005 17:11 (twenty years ago)

Daerest training person,

DO NOT EVER PUT YOUR FINGERS DIRECTLY ON MY POWERBOOK'S SCREEN--HARD ENOUGH TO DISTURB THE LIQUID CRYSTAL--EVER AGAIN OR I WILL FUCKING KILL YOU IN COLD BLOOD

Cheers,
tissp!

tissp! (the impossible shortest specia), Monday, 21 November 2005 17:22 (twenty years ago)

But that's fun! I do it on my (work) laptop all the time!

The Damp Is Rising (kate), Monday, 21 November 2005 17:23 (twenty years ago)

I feel your pain
xpost

beanz (beanz), Monday, 21 November 2005 17:25 (twenty years ago)

Ruining work laptops is fine and okay but I've just paid 1400 quid for this fucker, I want it to last at least a week before starting to show signs of ageing...

tissp! (the impossible shortest specia), Monday, 21 November 2005 17:28 (twenty years ago)

Oh, OK, sorry, didn't realise you'd paid for it yourself. FUX0R!!!

Right. 2 minutes till I get out of work, and half an hour till this date. Gah, I'm hungry now - should I have a snack before going? But what of my breath, then? Argh, I already have coffee breath. Ugh.

Oh no. Here I go... will report back tomorrow.

The Damp Is Rising (kate), Monday, 21 November 2005 17:29 (twenty years ago)

I couldn't accept him as the rightful winner because I was rooting really hard for the frail looking old chap whose specialist subjects were always really hard. I know it makes me a dreadful snob but I take someone more seriously when their specialist subject is Raymond Queneau as opposed to Father Ted. But enough of my MM rockism, I'm forever getting into arguments over it.

Good luck Kate! See you tomorrow.

Matt (Matt), Monday, 21 November 2005 17:31 (twenty years ago)

No problem! Am much calmer now. Good luck Kate! Don't freak out, just be normal!

tissp! (the impossible shortest specia), Monday, 21 November 2005 18:11 (twenty years ago)

Argh, my Oracle keeps disconnecting.

Good morning, everyone. I feel a bit befuddled today from all the real ale last night. Twas a pretty good date. I had a good time, at least.

The Damp Is Rising (kate), Tuesday, 22 November 2005 08:49 (twenty years ago)

You had a good time! Yay!

Morning all - I'm equally befuddled, but more due to strange dreams than anything else. I haven't woken up yet - I need more tea.

Come Back Johnny B (Johnney B), Tuesday, 22 November 2005 09:16 (twenty years ago)

I guess it's good that I'm getting practise on dates, and not being so nervous about them, and talking to strangers and stuff. I dunno.

He was really nice, very smart, very brainy. Good conversation, we had very similar senses of humour to the point where both of us at one point or another went "hey, that's usually my joke!" Good nose, floppy hair (bit of a receding hairline, but OK, quite distinguished looking). But... (There's always a but, isn't there?) I don't know. A bit buttoned down and possibly uptight? It's always one way or the other with repressed public school boys. Either they're rumpled and crumpled and can't be bothered (like Boris Johnson, hot hot hott) or else they're tucked in and buttoned all the way to the top (like Hugh Grant, not not nott).

We had really, really good conversation, about maps and foxhunting and London postcodes and the English Civil War and it was a real intellectual *click*.

But on the other hand, in some ways, I get the feeling that he would be a bit of a fixer-upper. I'm sorry, is that a horrible thing to say? If someone said that about me, I'd be vaguely offended and take a bit of a "take it or leave it" attitude. I don't like it when a date or potential partner feels like they should change my appearance, be it my clothes or my hair (I really resented that about Joe). So I'm not sure that I have the right to do that to a potential partner.

But on the other hand, men are kind of known for having no dress sense and needing a woman to take them in hand and make them attractive to ladies - or to the particular lady in question.

Guys - what do you think? How would you react if a laaaaady said to you something along the lines of "look, you're great, you're fun, you're smart, but I'd like to make a few minor adjustments to your appearance and wardrobe to make you HOTT."

The Damp Is Rising (kate), Tuesday, 22 November 2005 09:26 (twenty years ago)

Sounds like a good night.

If someone I only knew a little but whom I fancied tried to suggest 'minor adjustments' overtly, then I'd find it weird and it might put me off. If, however, this person were to, say, ruffle my hair and say 'hey you look good with messy hair' or bought me a new t-shirt, or walked past a shoe shop with me and said, 'hey those trainers would suit you' – then I'd be flattered and ego-boosted.

I.e. be subtle and it'll totally work.

beanz (beanz), Tuesday, 22 November 2005 09:34 (twenty years ago)

Sigh. I'm terrible at being subtle.

The Damp Is Rising (kate), Tuesday, 22 November 2005 09:36 (twenty years ago)

'cept it's not a fixer-upper, it's a chiller-outer - which we all know is MUCH BETTER and leads to INCREASED HAPPINESS. erm, i don't know. maybe he's just like that at first and the more you get to know him the more relaxed he gets...

xpost beanz otm.

emsk ( emsk), Tuesday, 22 November 2005 09:39 (twenty years ago)

Seeing partners as projects = dud

He's got Damp as well, right? ;)

I'm with beanz on this one - subtlty and being nice is the key. If you're rubbish at being subtle and/or nice, then don't bother, easy peasy.

And to be honest, not going with someone just cos they're wearing the wrong shirt is a little . . .. shallow? Picky? Something else I wouldn't expect from you?

Come Back Johnny B (Johnney B), Tuesday, 22 November 2005 09:41 (twenty years ago)

she's not saying it's cos he's wearing the wrong shirt, it's indicative of a wider problem (er right kate??)!

am at WORK today again yeah yeah! leaving in 15.

emsk ( emsk), Tuesday, 22 November 2005 09:43 (twenty years ago)

True, maybe he was all "argh oh no, first date, have to dress up" when I just wanted to say "dude, relax, untuck your shirt, you don't have to leave the room to burp, etc." It wasn't that his shirt was *wrong* it was just that being so buttoned up makes you seem, well... uptight. Maybe I am being picky, but all clothes are subconscious signals.

The only big thing I would change is, well, sideburns.

The Damp Is Rising (kate), Tuesday, 22 November 2005 09:44 (twenty years ago)

i am always terrified when meeting new people, esp if i want to make a good impression. this has not got easier.

emsk ( emsk), Tuesday, 22 November 2005 09:47 (twenty years ago)

Kate, he'll be flattered you're taking an interest but just don't destroy his self esteem. You might be right about him having poor dress sense, but he still does probably look in the mirror before he leaves the house and think to himself, 'yep, not looking too bad'. Sideburns: bigger or smaller?

I saw Paths of Glory last night and it was fucking good. You know how when you see a really good film in the cinema and you realise how rare it is to get something so well made and you get this wave of appreciation and enthusiasm and you have to stop yourself gushing and saying stupid stuff?

beanz (beanz), Tuesday, 22 November 2005 09:50 (twenty years ago)

Who knows. I mean, lord knows what he's discussing with his friends about me this morning. "She's brainy, but she's pushy and a bit of an intellectual showoff. And that American accent... ugh. Why do Americans get so loud when they're drunk or riled up? And she called a sofa a COUCH! Apallingly non-U. And she had her shirt untucked for the whole date - and what's worse, she BURPED at the table, then giggled with an apologetic grin about real ale... I mean, how will the chaps from my hunt club ever react to that lack of manners?"

x-post - any sideburns would be good. He's rocking the Ned look. (as in Raggett, not council estates.)

The Damp Is Rising (kate), Tuesday, 22 November 2005 09:51 (twenty years ago)

Also, the funniest thing he told me all night was that "chav" is actually a demographic acronym. Probably apocraphal.

It's funny, often when I go on internet dates, the conversations just feel like various threads off ILX. At least his conversations are like the threads that I read and love on ILX, rather than the truckerhat wearing hipster-baiting, rockism-accusing ones I avoid.

The Damp Is Rising (kate), Tuesday, 22 November 2005 10:01 (twenty years ago)

All you need to figure out at the moment is whether you want/need to go on another date with him - I assume the affirmative? In which case no bother, you can cross the "What Not To Wear" bridge later. If he was just a bit tense, I'm sure he'll loosen up eventually.

By the way, blokes don't bang on about girls like that - honest we don't.

Come Back Johnny B (Johnney B), Tuesday, 22 November 2005 10:02 (twenty years ago)

Ha ha ha, JB that might hold some truck if I hadn't seen you (and Forest and others) banging on ON THIS VERY THREAD.

The Damp Is Rising (kate), Tuesday, 22 November 2005 10:04 (twenty years ago)

Hold some truck? What does that mean? I meant, hold some WATER.

The Damp Is Rising (kate), Tuesday, 22 November 2005 10:05 (twenty years ago)

But, erm, in answer to the question, yeah, I'd definitely go on another date with him.

The Damp Is Rising (kate), Tuesday, 22 November 2005 10:06 (twenty years ago)

xpost - Yeh, but that's about girls we haven't had more than a 10 minute conversation with. People who we've actually talked to or gone out on a date or something we SO don't speak about. We might natter on an internet message board, but certainly not IRL.

Hold some truck is such a mangling on the language that I'm determined to use it more.

Come Back Johnny B (Johnney B), Tuesday, 22 November 2005 10:16 (twenty years ago)

Good morning dudes. I am curiously tired today, despite having got about ten hours sleep last night!

tissp! (the impossible shortest specia), Tuesday, 22 November 2005 10:25 (twenty years ago)

Good morning. I know why I'm tired, because I stayed for the extra pint downstairs. But I am curiously HUNGRY this morning.

The Damp Is Rising (kate), Tuesday, 22 November 2005 10:27 (twenty years ago)

Also, I have a ticket left for the M0unta1n G0ats tomorrow if anyone wants it...

Oh, and how did your date go Kate? Am in a training course and can't spend too much time conspicuously reading the whole thread!

tissp! (the impossible shortest specia), Tuesday, 22 November 2005 10:28 (twenty years ago)

How The Date Went

(Honestly it's less than a dozen posts ago!)

The Damp Is Rising (kate), Tuesday, 22 November 2005 10:30 (twenty years ago)

Hmmm I see your dilemma. I think it will all lie in the way you go about it. I think you should go on a few more dates before you try and start changing anyone though.

tissp! (the impossible shortest specia), Tuesday, 22 November 2005 10:32 (twenty years ago)

I dreamt I had sex with my housemate last night - I don't even fancy her! Then I met her coming out of the shower as I was getting up this morning, and I had a brief "Oh no! What does she think of me!" moment before I remember that it only happened IN MY HEAD. Very odd.

Come Back Johnny B (Johnney B), Tuesday, 22 November 2005 10:51 (twenty years ago)

No, fair enough. Maybe he will start loosening up of his own accord as he gets to know me better.

I suppose it also depends on the way that one goes about it.

I mean, Joe tried to be all "oh, that's a nice shirt" and compliment me every time I wore something he approved of. But I started noticing more and more that we just had very different tastes in clothes. It wasn't a minor adjustment, it was a "never ever wear anything brightly coloured or paisley or patterned ever!" which was a complete change in something that's very fundamental to who I am, to the point where I have a paisley tattoo on my shoulder, so that even when I'm naked, I'm still wearing paisley.

The haircolour thing was different, and badly handled. Because he didn't compliment my natural haircolour, he made a point of saying that he thought bleached hair was trashy. I like hairdye - if I dated a guy who said that he had a particular thing for redheads, I'd probably change to a strawberry tint if I thought it would really make him happy. But telling your girlfriend that the way she likes her hair is "trashy" is totally the wrong way to go about it. And my trashy highlights came back the moment he dumped me.

x-post ha ha.

The Damp Is Rising (kate), Tuesday, 22 November 2005 10:53 (twenty years ago)

But on the other hand, men are kind of known for having no dress sense and needing a woman to take them in hand and make them attractive to ladies - or to the particular lady in question.

ahem...

sfxxx, Tuesday, 22 November 2005 10:58 (twenty years ago)

What? OK, maybe this is a myth perpetuated by literature - every novel from Jane Austen to Bridget Jones to thread!

The Damp Is Rising (kate), Tuesday, 22 November 2005 11:00 (twenty years ago)

I don't think I agree with that sweeping statement that Stelfox in coughing about either!
Glad it went well Kate. To be honest, I'd give him the benefit of the doubt & meet him again & see how it goes.

Panther Pink (Pinkpanther), Tuesday, 22 November 2005 11:08 (twenty years ago)

I did say "kind of". And I am thinking about a certain kind of man - my dad was an absolutely typical example. He had no dress sense whatsoever before he met my mother. And has reverted to clothes I'm sometimes ashamed to be seen with him in public with since they split. But hey, I guess he's happy, so whatever.

The Damp Is Rising (kate), Tuesday, 22 November 2005 11:11 (twenty years ago)

well, i disagree - probably because i own more shoes than any woman i've ever been out with, like clothes and am pretty happy that i dress myself better than anyone else could. then again, if anyone wants to pay for me to go to savile row and get a couple of nice bespoke suits and pairs of handmade shoes, i suppose i wouldn't complain.

sfxxx, Tuesday, 22 November 2005 11:12 (twenty years ago)

Well, that's OK, Stelfox, I'd never go out with you in a million years! ::ducks::

Yes, there are some men, maybe a lot of men, who take great care with regards to their clothes, and use them as an expression of their personality and taste and style.

And if it *is* your personal style, then I respect that, and I would never f*ck with a guy's look or clothes on that level.

But there are a lot of guys who are completely clueless when it comes to dressing themselves, let alone looking good, or dressing to attract women in general - or this woman in particular - and I think in that case, it's OK to make suggestions. So long as you're nice.

The Damp Is Rising (kate), Tuesday, 22 November 2005 11:16 (twenty years ago)

Bot all blokes dress rubbish. Some blokes dress rubbish, but so do some women.

And extrapolating what a potential bf will be like from your dad's behaviours is decidedly Freudian and ewww.

Come Back Johnny B (Johnney B), Tuesday, 22 November 2005 11:16 (twenty years ago)

This observation is based on lots of men I've dated or known, and men that my friends have dated and eventually married. So there.

Anyway, in a related topic, ARRRRGGGGHHH, I neglected to mention that my mum has found and started reading my blog. AAARRRGGHHHHHH!!!!

x-post

The Damp Is Rising (kate), Tuesday, 22 November 2005 11:17 (twenty years ago)

It may be Freudian, but I don't think it's particularly eeeuuwww. I think most women (yes, this is another sweeping generalisation, but one based on observation) end up with men who are quite like their dads.

The Damp Is Rising (kate), Tuesday, 22 November 2005 11:18 (twenty years ago)

Well, that's OK, Stelfox, I'd never go out with you in a million years! ::ducks::

denial.

sfxxx, Tuesday, 22 November 2005 11:23 (twenty years ago)

(joking btw. i really do believe you)

sfxxx, Tuesday, 22 November 2005 11:26 (twenty years ago)

::blows kiss::

The Damp Is Rising (kate), Tuesday, 22 November 2005 11:27 (twenty years ago)

Whoa god blog/mum is horrible

I'm colourblind so it took me years to be confident in the clothes I buy, and I always have to ask advice on colours. Styles I'm ok with. I hope. You'd tell me if not, right?

beanz (beanz), Tuesday, 22 November 2005 11:28 (twenty years ago)

It may be Freudian, but I don't think it's particularly eeeuuwww. I think most women (yes, this is another sweeping generalisation, but one based on observation) end up with men who are quite like their dads.
I don't see it from my situation, but I can understnad this one.

Stelf, I'd totally hit itfor your shoe collection!

Beanz - my boy is colourblind too, but I've never really seen him make a fashion faux pas. Sometimes he'll say do you like that grey jumper & I'll say, dude it's lilac, but apart from that, it's all good!

Panther Pink (Pinkpanther), Tuesday, 22 November 2005 11:30 (twenty years ago)

My dad is also colourblind, so maybe that's a key. If his clothes aren't properly managed, he will turn up wearing the most horrible combinations.

The Erithian Cartographer made a joke on his profile about being colourblind, but I hope it's not true, as that would mean potential genetic problems, argh.

The Damp Is Rising (kate), Tuesday, 22 November 2005 11:31 (twenty years ago)

...and I've never seen you looking anything less than elegant, Beanz. But then again, I've only ever seen you in a suit!

The Damp Is Rising (kate), Tuesday, 22 November 2005 11:32 (twenty years ago)

Ah, eugenics might be the answer then. If your dad is colourblind Kate, then chances are your sons would be too, regardless of the father.

My parents first realised I might be colourblind when they let me dress myself, they say. I'm not sure that can be right, though, cos I have a suspicion that the idea of colours 'going together' or 'clashing' might be a social construct. OTOH the colour wheel demonstrates complementariness etc. I dunno.

xpost hah thanks. I need a new one or two. Savile Row's a bit beyond my means though.

beanz (beanz), Tuesday, 22 November 2005 11:36 (twenty years ago)

Kate, I once dated a girl who, the first time she came over, said "well if I'm going to be coming round regularly, that shampoo has GOT to go" (this was in the days when shampoo was still relevant to my life).

Of course she never came round again - I found it utterly pushy and off-putting. I think any "changes" you want to make to this chap should wait till after several dates, and follow the beanz course of action.

Markelby (Mark C), Tuesday, 22 November 2005 11:40 (twenty years ago)

Yes, potential sons have a 50% chance of being colourblind, no matter who the father was.

However, if I breed with a colourblind male, then my *daughters* also have a 50% chance of being colourblind, and a 100% chance of being at least a carrier of the defective can't-tell-red-from-green gene.

I also wonder how much colourblindness I've got - I tend to do badly with colours, fullstop, and have to look quite carefully at those chart test things before deciding what the number is.

x-post but why did she ask you to change your shampoo? Did it occur to you that she might be allergic to the perfume in it? ;-)

The Damp Is Rising (kate), Tuesday, 22 November 2005 11:41 (twenty years ago)

if anyone told me anything "had to go", they would be the first thing to go. and who is *really* allergic to perfume? (i mean seriously, proplerly allergic, not made-up, pathologically pathologising, american allergic).

sfxxxx, Tuesday, 22 November 2005 11:49 (twenty years ago)

Yeah maybe she thought she was making a 'subtle' hint about how she was keen to stay the night often and would therefore need girly shampoo with aloe vera or mint or cucumber or pimms or green tea or tea tree oil or rose petals or whatever it is.

Xpost both my parents have allergies to things commonly found in soap and shampoo. Are you dissing my mum? :)

beanz (beanz), Tuesday, 22 November 2005 11:52 (twenty years ago)

Argh, just heard back from the estate agent. Got an answer, kind of OK, though not the one I wanted to hear. The vendor won't fix the problem, but he has agreed to drop £1000 off the price of the house.

I've emailed my financial advisor to ask if I can keep the same mortgage, but pay £1k less on my deposit, and use the difference to pay for any inspection and repairs. Argh!

The Damp Is Rising (kate), Tuesday, 22 November 2005 11:54 (twenty years ago)

Where's Forest? Haven't seen him in a bit. He might be interested to know that TEC is from Lincolnshire, tee hee.

The Damp Is Rising (kate), Tuesday, 22 November 2005 12:17 (twenty years ago)

tissp emma p0ll0ck is supporting the m0untain g0ats! pls tell me what her stuff is like! bah i want to go and see her but there are 3 other things i want to do tomorrow night :(

emskatwork, Tuesday, 22 November 2005 12:25 (twenty years ago)

That should be fine wrt the mortgage Kate. Ppl will quite often drop the price rather than get the work done.

Panther Pink (Pinkpanther), Tuesday, 22 November 2005 12:38 (twenty years ago)

You're coming to our photoshoot, though, right? RIGHT?!?!?

Bah, I had something else to say about my house/mortgage - oh yeah, now I remember. My case was officially written today! Which is an auspicious date as it's the 22nd! In fact, it's 22/11 which is International Conspiracy Day.

The Damp Is Rising (kate), Tuesday, 22 November 2005 12:39 (twenty years ago)

Who's idea was international conspiracy day? And what's their agenda, hmm?

beanz (beanz), Tuesday, 22 November 2005 12:48 (twenty years ago)

Mine, mwah hah hah hah.

(And it's the day that Kennedy was shot, plus, I just like 22's. They follow me around.)

The Damp Is Rising (kate), Tuesday, 22 November 2005 12:48 (twenty years ago)

emsk, I won't be able to tell you--I am having to give my tickets away because I can no longer make it! :(

tissp! (the impossible shortest specia), Tuesday, 22 November 2005 12:49 (twenty years ago)

Hello! Did someone call?

*Where* in Lincolnshire does TEC come from, though.

Emsk, Emma P0ll0ck is great - or, at least, she was when she was in The D3lgad0s.

Johnny B has a point that we stop banging on about people we've started to know. I've hardly *mentioned* Colleague M on this thread since she invited me shopping (and invited me round to her mum's house afterwards - and the FULL STORY is even more Hollyoaks-plotlike)

Forest Pines (ForestPines), Tuesday, 22 November 2005 12:51 (twenty years ago)

Glad you saw the batsignal, FP!

Methinks this is all sounding very Hollyoaks-like. And perhaps there will be a big denouncement (yes, I know I spell that word wrong) at the office Xmas party where she gets drunk and confesses she's liked you all along... :-)

The Damp Is Rising (kate), Tuesday, 22 November 2005 12:52 (twenty years ago)

I don't know if she's coming to the Xmas party - the booking deadline was about six weeks before she started, and as she's really only a temp I don't know if she's been invited.

Forest Pines (ForestPines), Tuesday, 22 November 2005 12:55 (twenty years ago)

YES i am coming to your photoshoot!! all the other things are in the night.

emsk, I won't be able to tell you--I am having to give my tickets away because I can no longer make it! :(

gah, suck. SOMEONE i know must be going to this gig!

Emsk, Emma P0ll0ck is great - or, at least, she was when she was in The D3lgad0s.

i know, they're one of my favourite bands ever! this is why i'm so torn about tomorrow night. bush hall is a lot further from home than the scala and the photoshoot are...

emskatwork, Tuesday, 22 November 2005 12:58 (twenty years ago)

Should I post the whole Colleague M thing here for people who don't read the blog?

(plus, I can post all the stuff I don't dare post on the blog because after all, I did give her the address once, and it is plausible that she might read it)

Forest Pines (ForestPines), Tuesday, 22 November 2005 13:00 (twenty years ago)

Bush Hall's great though! Sorry, I'm sure this has no relevance! :-( IGNORE IGNORE!

Panther Pink (Pinkpanther), Tuesday, 22 November 2005 13:01 (twenty years ago)

Pink, I reckon at heart you're a London girl. Move down!

Markelby (Mark C), Tuesday, 22 November 2005 13:23 (twenty years ago)

It's all my mums fault Mark, she decided to move the whole family away from London to the country just to have me! What was she thinking?! Grrrrrr!!

Panther Pink (Pinkpanther), Tuesday, 22 November 2005 13:34 (twenty years ago)

Arrgh dammit it's 'uncharted territory' not 'unchartered'. That would make no sense at all! And why are they using such a stupid cliché anyway? People are dumb. Or ignorant at least.

beanz (beanz), Tuesday, 22 November 2005 14:09 (twenty years ago)

I like the idea of unchartered territory, because it sounds like cruise ships don't go there.

But people are dumb, yeah.

The Damp Is Rising (kate), Tuesday, 22 November 2005 15:00 (twenty years ago)

Myself and Toby are going to the gig. I'm not someone emsk knows, possibly Toby is.

Andrew Farrell (afarrell), Tuesday, 22 November 2005 15:20 (twenty years ago)

Grrrr, I've got the post-lunch crankies.

The Damp Is Rising (kate), Tuesday, 22 November 2005 15:34 (twenty years ago)

Andrew, have you sorted picking the ticket up from Toby?

tissp! (the impossible shortest specia), Tuesday, 22 November 2005 15:48 (twenty years ago)

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beanz (beanz), Tuesday, 22 November 2005 15:50 (twenty years ago)

I don't understand. Sigh. I'm just feeling otherwise. I don't want to be photographed tomorrow. I'm Clever Elsa-ing about dating stuff. I'm just... grrrrrrrr! I am woman, hear me whinge.

The Damp Is Rising (kate), Tuesday, 22 November 2005 15:53 (twenty years ago)

OK, this has just cheered me up immensely:

ALEX JAMES SIGNED A BOOK DEAL WITH WARNER FOR HIS MEMOIRS.

EEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPP!!!!!!!!!!

The Damp Is Rising (kate), Tuesday, 22 November 2005 16:24 (twenty years ago)

I was wrong, that news didn't come from FT, even though the person who reported it to me works for the FT. It came from here:

http://alexjamesonline.tripod.com/alexbedlogo2.jpg

::goons::

The Damp Is Rising (kate), Tuesday, 22 November 2005 17:22 (twenty years ago)

I'll mail him now. (not Alex James)

Andrew Farrell (afarrell), Tuesday, 22 November 2005 17:23 (twenty years ago)

Grrrr, stupid Tripod. It didn't even say it was a tripod site when I was surfing it!

http://alexjamesonline.tripod.com/alexbedlogo2.jpg

Click on the link. You won't regret it. I think I need a cup of tea and a lie-down. Oh, how convenient, there's a bed right here.

The Damp Is Rising (kate), Tuesday, 22 November 2005 17:24 (twenty years ago)

Argh. Annoying mother, part 2000. She read my blog, and was upset because I talked about her on it, while I was discussing my conflicting emotions about house-buying. (I think the exact quote was something along the lines of "do I really want to do this, or is it just another thing my mother is pushing me into?" before concluding that I did actually want to do it.)

She wants an apology.

I want to say "No, I'm not sorry. If you don't want to know what my emotions are, don't read my blog. I am not sorry for the way I feel - those are my emotions, and I'm not apologising for them. And I am not sorry for talking about it on my blog - cause that's what blogs are for."

But, to be mercenary diplomatic, I'm not telling her that until after the money transfer has come through.

(Also, she's upset because I did a shout-out to my father on my blog. Never mind that I also had an "Argh! Dad, don't read it!" reaction to my father when he found it, as well. The shout-out was paranoia on my part. But my mum seems upset that I'm having some kind of private web contact with my father at all. For gods sake, YOU grow up, Mum. Am I not allowed to have a relationship with my father, now? Argh!)

The Damp Is Rising (kate), Tuesday, 22 November 2005 18:02 (twenty years ago)

Next thing you know, my mum will start reading ILX. Again.

::bashes head against desk::

The Damp Is Rising (kate), Tuesday, 22 November 2005 18:05 (twenty years ago)

Next time you visit her, can't you sneakily add ilx and your blog to the list of non-visitable sites in her browser?

Pashmina (Pashmina), Tuesday, 22 November 2005 18:06 (twenty years ago)

I don't know. It's complicated, because if I visted a friend's blog, and they were talking about me, I might be upset, if I couldn't comment or respond.

But for the most part, my attitude about this is, if you don't want to know what someone thinks on an emotional level, don't read their diary/blog/whatever.

it's just like... I'm sorry, but ... gah, no, I'm NOT sorry. My mum was *very* controlling when I was growing up. And I do sometimes feel like many of the decisions I made were not really my own, so I am making bloody sure that this is *my* decision because it's a HELL of a financiall big decision. And the mere fact that she's trying to tell me now that I shouldn't be expressing my emotions makes me feel *more* controlled. You don't have a right to tell me what my emotions should be, or how to express them.

Argh. I should log off and go home.

The Damp Is Rising (kate), Tuesday, 22 November 2005 18:11 (twenty years ago)

Step away from the computer now.

The Damp Is Rising (kate), Tuesday, 22 November 2005 18:13 (twenty years ago)

Oh wait! I won't be in tomorrow because of this photo shoot. So none of you worry if I'm not online, OK?

The Damp Is Rising (kate), Tuesday, 22 November 2005 18:14 (twenty years ago)

Good morning
Someone in my office is keeping a phone call on hold and the beeping makes me want to throw something

beanz (beanz), Wednesday, 23 November 2005 09:32 (twenty years ago)

we have a virtual meeting between our office and poland going on. open plan office, we can hear ever word. salespeople talking, it's a different world...

koogs (koogs), Wednesday, 23 November 2005 09:40 (twenty years ago)

I've got a meeting in 5 minuted to discuss process maps. In making me do a process map for the database I've built them, they've effectivly got me to do the process maps for their osdding process! Then they have the temerity to say they're all rubbish! Pah.

Come Back Johnny B (Johnney B), Wednesday, 23 November 2005 09:45 (twenty years ago)

I don't have any meetings, but I have just had a bowl of cheerios.

Panther Pink (Pinkpanther), Wednesday, 23 November 2005 09:54 (twenty years ago)

pink wins!

koogs (koogs), Wednesday, 23 November 2005 09:57 (twenty years ago)

Swap you my meetings for some cheerios?

I've got a banana tho, so it's not all bad news.

Come Back Johnny B (Johnney B), Wednesday, 23 November 2005 10:01 (twenty years ago)

I wonder if our doughnut day should be moved to Wednesdays from Fridays. I really fancy a doughnut. And Friday never worked cos everyone goes out to lunch anyways.

beanz (beanz), Wednesday, 23 November 2005 10:02 (twenty years ago)

pink wins!

Why thank you! Cheerios for everyone!

Beanz, I really wanted a donut this morning, (these cravings will kill ya!) but not just a donut you can buy from the suprtmarket, OH NO! I wanted one of those hot ring donuts you get from the seaside! Mmmmmmmm, food of the gods!

Panther Pink (Pinkpanther), Wednesday, 23 November 2005 10:36 (twenty years ago)

Good morning. I am *still* rebuilding my bloody Sybase database because the overnight rebuild I'd planned to do failed because of a stupid versioning problem.

(fortunately this is on a test box, not a live box)

Colleague M's mother has, apparently, asked if she will bring me with her again the next time she goes round to visit.

Forest Pines (ForestPines), Wednesday, 23 November 2005 10:38 (twenty years ago)

That's a good sign, FP - every girl wants approval from their mother ;). Did you post your blog address so we can get up to date on M's history? DO you even want to?

They liked my process maps! Yay! Another meeting at 11 to talk about reporting on another database I've written - will this deluge never end?

Come Back Johnny B (Johnney B), Wednesday, 23 November 2005 10:52 (twenty years ago)

I'm not going to post about M much on the blog, because I did give her the address once. I was trying to decide whether to tell you more about her here, though.

Forest Pines (ForestPines), Wednesday, 23 November 2005 11:00 (twenty years ago)

Pls tell us FP!

Panther Pink (Pinkpanther), Wednesday, 23 November 2005 11:07 (twenty years ago)

Tell us! I live vicariously!

My doughnut has SPRINKLES

beanz (beanz), Wednesday, 23 November 2005 11:16 (twenty years ago)

Mmm, how does it taste Beanz? My satsuma just isn't cutting it!

Panther Pink (Pinkpanther), Wednesday, 23 November 2005 11:22 (twenty years ago)

It tastes sprinkly! i.e. very good. Krispy Kreme. I was resistant to the idea of these foreign 'donuts' ruining our palates with their over-sugared gooeyness but I was so wrong. Seaside ones are easily the best though.

beanz (beanz), Wednesday, 23 November 2005 11:28 (twenty years ago)

Um, where do I start?

A month or so back, I asked M out for a drink. She said "I like you, as a friend, but I don't think I know you well enough to meet you outside work."

At the same time, I've been flirting a lot with someone called Colleague K. I've never met K, but we have to talk on the phone maybe two or three times a week, and there's always a lot of heavy flirting, mostly relating to kinky sex - she says I need to come over and spank her, that sort of thing. K wasn't single, but a couple of weeks ago she left her long-term boyfriend, and moved - with their kids - back into her mum's house.

M is very anti-relationship at the moment. She keeps telling me that she wants to stay single for at least a year, and until she's settled down in a better job with proper career prospects. She also will randomly start conversations about how there's no such thing as your perfect partner, and all relationships are doomed, etc, etc. On the other hand, she is constantly persuading me that I should ask K out:

"But she's only just come out of a long-term relationship the other day - I don't think it would be a good idea"

"You need to get in there quickly, though! Before she finds someone else!!"

M invited me out shopping last weekend, in the city she was working in until last summer, and which she hadn't visited since her last breakup, in September. Afterwards, she invited me round to meet her mum. While we were there, she told her mum all about how she thinks I should ask K out too.

Forest Pines (ForestPines), Wednesday, 23 November 2005 11:28 (twenty years ago)

Um maybe K's had a word with M, knowing that she knows you? ;)

The Vintner's Lipogram (OleM), Wednesday, 23 November 2005 11:33 (twenty years ago)

So, please refresh my memory here FP, which lady do you really like & want to get more acquainted with?

Panther Pink (Pinkpanther), Wednesday, 23 November 2005 11:39 (twenty years ago)

K and M don't really know each other, though.

To be honest, Pink, I have no idea. M is great as a friend, but I'm not sure we'd be too compatible in the bedroom - she's a bit too shy and vanilla. would probably be great in bed, but I don't think we'd get along too well apart from that.

Forest Pines (ForestPines), Wednesday, 23 November 2005 11:43 (twenty years ago)

Where is K? Any way you can bump into her and say hi without asking her on a date?

beanz (beanz), Wednesday, 23 November 2005 11:46 (twenty years ago)

GET ONE POLYGAMY

tissp! (the impossible shortest specia), Wednesday, 23 November 2005 11:46 (twenty years ago)

Beanz: I can't bump into her, because she lives and works 50 miles away. Our relationship is entirely limited to phone conversations.

Forest Pines (ForestPines), Wednesday, 23 November 2005 11:58 (twenty years ago)

So even going on a date would be a bit of a stretch?

beanz (beanz), Wednesday, 23 November 2005 12:02 (twenty years ago)

Yup.

Forest Pines (ForestPines), Wednesday, 23 November 2005 12:03 (twenty years ago)

50 miles isn't that far. I'd go out with someone in London if I was that way inclined.

Panther Pink (Pinkpanther), Wednesday, 23 November 2005 12:06 (twenty years ago)

I've never met K, but we have to talk on the phone maybe two or three times a week

This happened to me a while ago, she had a lovely voice & we used to chat nonsense to each other. i was very disappointed when i saw her, not what I pictured at all.

not-goodwin (not-goodwin), Wednesday, 23 November 2005 12:11 (twenty years ago)

godwin is right, I've had this happen to me too!

Panther Pink (Pinkpanther), Wednesday, 23 November 2005 12:14 (twenty years ago)

And if you two meet and there's no spark, you can never flirt with her again!

xxpost It's possible to have a relationship, sure, but it's a bit of an obstacle to an easygoing no-pressure first date maybe

beanz (beanz), Wednesday, 23 November 2005 12:14 (twenty years ago)

Good morning, folks!

Bah, what a change it is, back to being a computer programmer today when yesterday I was a GLAMOUROUS FASHION MODEL FOR AN EDGY STYLE MAGAZINE. bwah hah hah hah hah.

OK, now I know why Kate Moss takes so many drugs. It is bloody boring doing photo shoots. Especially when you have Dieter off Sprockets shouting at you to turn to the left, not to lean on the column and put the glass of wine down. Bah. How can you relax when you've got a bloody HUGE BLACK OBJECT being shoved in your face? (And I mean that literally, not in a "sticky and brown" way.)

Did ya miss me, huh?

The Damp Is Rising (kate), Thursday, 24 November 2005 08:49 (twenty years ago)

So how'd it go then?

Panther Pink (Pinkpanther), Thursday, 24 November 2005 09:17 (twenty years ago)

Morning

Came fifth in the pub quiz :( Must Try Harder.

The thread missed you Kate - look it died before lunchtime

That Tuomas thread is depressing. Reminds me of school. Like walking in the classroom in the morning to find half the class ganging up on one kid with the other half ignoring it

beanz (beanz), Thursday, 24 November 2005 09:22 (twenty years ago)

Started another thread about it, but it was weird. It was fun to put on pretty clothes, and see everyone else in pretty clothes, and hang out in this really cool studio warehouse space and gossip with all the other bands on our label. But I freaking HATE having my photo taken.

x-post Yeah, I find that Tuomas thread depressing as fuck, but at least Ally is kind of heartening on it. My immediate reaction is "gah, that's horrible - if you really hate someone, why not just ignore them" (yeah, I know physicial heal thyself) but there's a high school part of me that thinks "if they're picking on someone else, they're not picking on me for a change". Which makes me feel even worse.

The Damp Is Rising (kate), Thursday, 24 November 2005 09:25 (twenty years ago)

as ally pointed out, no one hates tuomas (and why would they) - which makes the thread even more stupid i suppose.

gem (trisk), Thursday, 24 November 2005 09:33 (twenty years ago)

I don't know; it's just bizarre.

I'm suddenly realising that I have a hangover today. Ugh.

The Damp Is Rising (kate), Thursday, 24 November 2005 09:39 (twenty years ago)

When will we get to see the pics Kate?

Panther Pink (Pinkpanther), Thursday, 24 November 2005 09:44 (twenty years ago)

morning! WOW what a fantastic day yesterday was. everything was just *good*. i hooked the house up to the wireless (my new router is 'merican and it took me forever to get a voltage converter thingy) then made the living room look gorgeous then h came for lunch then went to the glamorous photoshoot which was so much fun! i got to have all the good bits and do pink wine runs without all the icky having to have my photo taken :) then yay rehearsal and i was swooning/giggling so much i nearly falled off my chair (combination of glorious harmonies + fluffy cat almost proved too much for me) and then i went to the bl4ck m0unt4in/d34d m34dow gig and got a new New Favourite Band yay! the only thing that could've been better would've been if i hadn't missed d34d m34dow.

emsk ( emsk), Thursday, 24 November 2005 09:47 (twenty years ago)

They will be in the "Menswear" issue of i-D. Whenever that comes out. (Yes, I was sniggering to myself about that all afternoon.) I'm actually quite curious to see it, because we thought it was going to be just a little 250 word piece with a photo, but apparently it could be up to 6 pages of fashion spread! (!!!!!!!)

They made us fill out these silly surveys as well, asking us what we couldn't live without, and who our ideal man was and stuff like that. (Physics and Boris Johnson respectively.)

I hope it's going to be lots of big photos of the lovely ladies and not so much of my ugly mug. Though the big group shot of all the bands - we saw the polaroid of it, and it looked great. OK, it looked a bit like a school photo, but at least it looked like an ART SCHOOL photo. Like, yeah, all of us hang around in cool warehouse studios in Dalston all day long, making art and music and discussing poetry while wearing fabulous ballgowns, oh yes...

I really wanted to get my picture taken, looking like Hugh Hefner surrounded by my beautiful bandmates in prom dresses, but the photographer wasn't having it. :-(

x-post

The Damp Is Rising (kate), Thursday, 24 November 2005 09:49 (twenty years ago)

Ha ha, Katrina was actually mewling at the door for a good five minutes after you left, Emsk. And then promptly jumped on Anna's lap like the slut she is. ;-)

The Damp Is Rising (kate), Thursday, 24 November 2005 09:52 (twenty years ago)

Ohmigod, I didn't even realise until just now that today is Thanksgiving. Is it going to be a yank-free day, then? ;-)

The Damp Is Rising (kate), Thursday, 24 November 2005 10:01 (twenty years ago)

Sweet, I like seeing my friends in I-D! This'll be the second time!

Panther Pink (Pinkpanther), Thursday, 24 November 2005 10:08 (twenty years ago)

Thanksgiving today? Cool. I'll eat a turkey tonight in honour.

Come Back Johnny B (Johnney B), Thursday, 24 November 2005 10:25 (twenty years ago)

A *whole* turkey? I mean, I know you have bottomless legs and all, but still.

GOBBLEGOBBLEGOBBLE.

The Damp Is Rising (kate), Thursday, 24 November 2005 10:27 (twenty years ago)

Screw the turkey, although not literally, I just want some pumpkin pie!

Panther Pink (Pinkpanther), Thursday, 24 November 2005 10:29 (twenty years ago)

Mmmm, punkin piiiiieeee! Oh, and pecan pie. Oh my lord... ::drools::

The Damp Is Rising (kate), Thursday, 24 November 2005 10:35 (twenty years ago)

Innit?! I can't seem to find pumpkin in a tin here to make punkin pie. using squash or crappy halloween pumpkins just doesn't work.

Panther Pink (Pinkpanther), Thursday, 24 November 2005 10:48 (twenty years ago)

Pumpkin pie's a better idea - I've never made pumpkin pie before, I'll have to find a recipe of the interweb. You need tinned pumpkin as well? I hope that's in tescos.

Come Back Johnny B (Johnney B), Thursday, 24 November 2005 10:52 (twenty years ago)

Punkin pie is GORGEOUS - it's all cinnamonny. Needs to be eaten with copious amounts of whipped cream, though. :-)

The Damp Is Rising (kate), Thursday, 24 November 2005 10:53 (twenty years ago)

Pumpkin pie's a better idea - I've never made pumpkin pie before, I'll have to find a recipe of the interweb. You need tinned pumpkin as well? I hope that's in tescos.

That's what I'm saying Johnny, I can't find any tinned pumpkin!!

Panther Pink (Pinkpanther), Thursday, 24 November 2005 10:57 (twenty years ago)

What, not even in tescos? There's gotta be some SOMEWHERE - google tells me there's some in waitrose.

Come Back Johnny B (Johnney B), Thursday, 24 November 2005 10:59 (twenty years ago)

Waitrose is not really a supermarket I frequent, so it might well be. For the love of God, pls let it be somewhere!

Panther Pink (Pinkpanther), Thursday, 24 November 2005 11:02 (twenty years ago)

Morning all. I have been waking up feeling randomly sick neearly every day this week. Interestingly. I could murder a fish finger sandwich at the moment, but am stuck in a training course :(

tissp! (the impossible shortest specia), Thursday, 24 November 2005 11:08 (twenty years ago)

hello.

back on ilx. it might last, it might not.
how is everyone?

g-clit (g-kit), Thursday, 24 November 2005 11:09 (twenty years ago)

Tissp - are you pregnant?

G-kit - have you been away because of mean people?

Panther Pink (Pinkpanther), Thursday, 24 November 2005 11:11 (twenty years ago)

Oh no, TISSP is pregnant! Pass the pickle flavoured ice cream!

G, if anyone is being mean to you, let me at 'em and I'll kick their arse. I'm a pop star-stroke-model now so I can do what I want.

The Damp Is Rising (kate), Thursday, 24 November 2005 11:12 (twenty years ago)

what can i say? i have a skin too few, i guess.

g-clit (g-kit), Thursday, 24 November 2005 11:13 (twenty years ago)

(Can I just add -stroke-model to everything I do now? Hello, I'm your data analyst-stroke-model.)

The Damp Is Rising (kate), Thursday, 24 November 2005 11:15 (twenty years ago)

Hey G - was that you anonymous on the build your own computer thread? I thought it might be.

That Tuomas thread is kinda interesting, I thought (and not just cos Ally kinda sorta stuck up for me - though maybe I'd have been better off not to have been mentioned at all in the "easy targets" section of ILE), and apart from one trollish asshole, it seems to be quite a lot of people being positive and reasonable. On recent evidence I'd have thought this was near impossible a few days ago.

Markelby (Mark C), Thursday, 24 November 2005 11:17 (twenty years ago)

why do you need pumpkin from a tin? what's wrong with a real pumpkin? (this is a serious question not a snobby swipe)

emsk ( emsk), Thursday, 24 November 2005 11:20 (twenty years ago)

i'm not nice enough to help people with computers, especially when i'm sulking. must have been the L33t Fairy.

g-clit (g-kit), Thursday, 24 November 2005 11:20 (twenty years ago)

Not to whingewhingewhinge or anything, but... ::cue massive whinge:: those huge long "single one person out" threads are so obvious that they seem to draw just as many lovers as haterz.

But what's much more insidious is the sort of endless random snarky and/or rude comments to the point where you start to wonder if the person posting them has some kind of internet tourettes or something. :-( But I don't want to open that can of worms again.

The Damp Is Rising (kate), Thursday, 24 November 2005 11:22 (twenty years ago)

x-post, I don't know. There's just something *about* the punkin in a tin. It really does work better - don't know if it's the processing or what.

The Damp Is Rising (kate), Thursday, 24 November 2005 11:22 (twenty years ago)

I was considering the possibility of being pregnant, like Arnie in that film that I can't remember the name of. Perhaps it's more to do with having to come in for 9.30 each day. I'm just not used to it.

tissp! (the impossible shortest specia), Thursday, 24 November 2005 11:26 (twenty years ago)

God, I'm really fading now. I was OK when I first came in, but now I feel very very rough. Keep getting dizzy spells and cannot concentrate or keep my eyes open.

The Damp Is Rising (kate), Thursday, 24 November 2005 11:30 (twenty years ago)

what can i say? i have a skin too few, i guess.

G-kit - Don't be silly, I did exactly the same & left ILE for a while because of a few arseholes. Now I just post on particular threads where it's more friendly & there's no oneupmanship. I sometimes forget though & post on other threads only to shouted down, so I scurry back. I know how much it can get you down though, so don't feel you're being oversensitive or anything.

why do you need pumpkin from a tin? what's wrong with a real pumpkin? (this is a serious question not a snobby swipe)
Because they only seem to sell tiny squash & you'd need loads of it. It just seems easier as it hasn't really qorked with the squash I used in the past.

Panther Pink (Pinkpanther), Thursday, 24 November 2005 11:33 (twenty years ago)

Kate, I think you, and I, have to be aware that a significant minority of ILE wish us ill and will always take any opportunity to have a dig, whether it's sarcasm or straight out abuse. That's just where we are at the moment. It dismays me a lot when I find out that someone I previously thought was cool thinks I'm a dick, but I'm getting used to it and getting a thicker skin about it. It must be even harder for Tuomas, as he's genuinely such a nice and reasonable guy (albeit one who it's sometimes easy to make gentle fun of) that you can't attack him for getting vicious, as both you and I have done enough times.

Hope you feel better soon! If it's booze related, lunch might sort you out.

Markelby (Mark C), Thursday, 24 November 2005 11:37 (twenty years ago)

what can i say? i have a skin too few, i guess.

The key is to remember that you don't give a rat's ass about anyone elses feelings. Oh yes.

tissp! (the impossible shortest specia), Thursday, 24 November 2005 11:38 (twenty years ago)

I find the problem is that I am exactly the same in the internet world as I am in real life, (except that I tone down my sarcasm as it doesn't translate in writing) but it seems that so many people have this made up personna. I guess it happens in the real world too, there are always going to be arseholes.

Panther Pink (Pinkpanther), Thursday, 24 November 2005 11:42 (twenty years ago)

In real life people have to tone down their arseholishness, though.

Markelby (Mark C), Thursday, 24 November 2005 11:43 (twenty years ago)

Fading? Have a cookie!

There will always be arseholes around. Easy enough to say just ignore it – I know it's not that simple – but there's a majority of people who aren't arseholes and apppreciate what you've got to say

beanz (beanz), Thursday, 24 November 2005 11:43 (twenty years ago)

in real life a lot of these people would get twatted, so they're only tough guys on the internet. so impressive.

g-clit (g-kit), Thursday, 24 November 2005 11:44 (twenty years ago)

Sigh. Mark, you're being pretty relentlessly OTM today.

Right now I feel a bit too vomitty to eat lunch and am craving disgusting fried food, not the healthy stuff I have in my bag. Wah.

The Damp Is Rising (kate), Thursday, 24 November 2005 11:44 (twenty years ago)

in real life a lot of these people would get twatted, so they're only tough guys on the internet. so impressive.
Totally!! It's always fun to meet the people that give you stick online. I had the pleasure of doing this earlier this year & to watch these f*ckers squirm their way out of it was priceless. I mean, it helped that I was with a group of big burly blokes! :-)

Panther Pink (Pinkpanther), Thursday, 24 November 2005 11:48 (twenty years ago)

in real life a lot of these people would get twatted, so they're only tough guys on the internet. so impressive.

HI DERE

(Pink, who were thes people? Any ILXors?)

Markelby (Mark C), Thursday, 24 November 2005 12:13 (twenty years ago)

Not ILXors Mark, no. :-)

Panther Pink (Pinkpanther), Thursday, 24 November 2005 12:14 (twenty years ago)

so... if this is our little corner that we've been forced into by the nasty bigger boys... surely they've won?

g-clit (g-kit), Thursday, 24 November 2005 12:19 (twenty years ago)

You should all just march into the noise board and start attacking everyone, blatently.

tissp! (the impossible shortest specia), Thursday, 24 November 2005 12:25 (twenty years ago)

I use ILE to relieve boredom during the day. What I don't need is some twats sniping & bitching at me. That doesn't relieve boredom, it just upsets me, so the way I see it is it's just better to not put myself in the situation. I want to chat rubbish to people that I am bothered about & not be told I'm stupid or twee or whatever the favourite bitchy comment of the day it is. So yes perhaps they have "won" in a way, but if that's what their life is about well, good luck to them. I hope they enjoy their lonely lives!

Panther Pink (Pinkpanther), Thursday, 24 November 2005 12:26 (twenty years ago)

I just want to make it clear that I am not being a victim here, I just have better things to fill my life/time with than cocks whose sole purpose is to upset & degrade other people.

Panther Pink (Pinkpanther), Thursday, 24 November 2005 12:27 (twenty years ago)

No, I'm sorry, I see ILX as a place for everyone. And so long as threads like this one exist, no one has "won" anything. There's a place for friendly chat, a place for intellectual discourse and a place for combatative twattery.

Some days I have fantasies about marching off to the Noize Board and disrupting their threads with 5000 word extracts from Country Life, but as far as I'm concerned, I'm here to live and let live. Treat others as you wish to be treated.

-Stroke-Model (kate), Thursday, 24 November 2005 12:30 (twenty years ago)

x-post

-Stroke-Model (kate), Thursday, 24 November 2005 12:30 (twenty years ago)

Sorry, I'm feeing militant today. I had a dream last night that I was in the Baader Meinhof.

tissp! (the impossible shortest specia), Thursday, 24 November 2005 12:32 (twenty years ago)

i'm only half convinced by that, Pinx0r.
i wish things were that black & white, but they don't have their lonely lives, because they're bouncing all over ilx with everyone thinking they're so cool and funny. i'd like to go to a FAP one day, yknow, but i'd probably end up feeling isolated by the cliquishness and lack of acceptance to nu-ilx0rs, whereas the arsey people would have no trouble because they're so COOL and OLD SKOOL that they can do no wrong. meh.

g-clit (g-kit), Thursday, 24 November 2005 12:33 (twenty years ago)

I can confirm that this will not happen!

tissp! (the impossible shortest specia), Thursday, 24 November 2005 12:33 (twenty years ago)

Well in answer to your post G-kit, I am what you'd call nu-ilx & I have been to faps & the majority of ppl have been nothing but lovely. I even managed to get some ILXors to fap in Cambridge, which was the best thing. We had such a great time. Bullies will always be bullies & other people will always think it's funny/cool. It's the way of the world. I'm not trying to convince you with anything I say, I'm just simply stating how it is for me. ILE is not the friendly welcoming place it once seemed to be & for that I am sad, but I have moved past that. My happiness is more important to me that some anonymous person bitching at my from behind a screen, hence why i restrict my ILE activity. It's sad because I miss interacting with people who don't contribute to these kind of threads, but if I was that bothereed, I'd email them right?

Oh & btw, Kate - where is Colette?

Panther Pink (Pinkpanther), Thursday, 24 November 2005 12:42 (twenty years ago)

Eh? Collete was on this thread this morning:

please give me ideas for a costume party...both silly and serious suggestions welcome

-Stroke-Model (kate), Thursday, 24 November 2005 12:43 (twenty years ago)

We need a Cambridge FAP, stat

tissp! (the impossible shortest specia), Thursday, 24 November 2005 12:46 (twenty years ago)

Oh right, see that's what happens when you confine yourself to certain threads! haha! Just thought I hadn't seen her around for a while is all.

Panther Pink (Pinkpanther), Thursday, 24 November 2005 12:48 (twenty years ago)

we need a seaside FAP!

g-clit (g-kit), Thursday, 24 November 2005 12:49 (twenty years ago)

G, the London FAPs are pretty nice, actually - it's a good crowd, few arseholes and they're usually welcoming (and if their not, it's because people are shy, rather than rude, on the whole).

Markelby (Mark C), Thursday, 24 November 2005 13:00 (twenty years ago)

I read that as the arseholes are welcoming.

tissp! (the impossible shortest specia), Thursday, 24 November 2005 13:08 (twenty years ago)

Is this where I start singing "Sticky and Brown" about the Welcoming Arseholes? ;-)

-Stroke-Model (kate), Thursday, 24 November 2005 13:08 (twenty years ago)

oh my.

g-clit (g-kit), Thursday, 24 November 2005 13:09 (twenty years ago)

now I feel very very rough. Keep getting dizzy spells and cannot concentrate or keep my eyes open.

Argh this is me today as well. (It feels like it may be slowly losing its grip now though.) Also, I had to stop reading the Artificial Intelligence thread because it gave me mad giggles.

The Vintner's Lipogram (OleM), Thursday, 24 November 2005 13:20 (twenty years ago)

I've had food and a cup of coffee and feel somewhat less rough.

(Sorry, G, really, the song is about chocolate, honest.)

-Stroke-Model (kate), Thursday, 24 November 2005 13:29 (twenty years ago)

i want to get me some of that.

g-spot (g-kit), Thursday, 24 November 2005 13:31 (twenty years ago)

G-spot - did my last post to you make sense?

Panther Pink (Pinkpanther), Thursday, 24 November 2005 13:31 (twenty years ago)

it surely did, aye.

g-spot (g-kit), Thursday, 24 November 2005 13:33 (twenty years ago)

Cool, I did rather babble on! :-/

Panther Pink (Pinkpanther), Thursday, 24 November 2005 14:00 (twenty years ago)

Am sitting down during dinner hour. I've been entering pictures of Dahon folding bicycles into the new website for the last day or so, and it's boring. After the last year's trade, we've come to the realisation that small-scale retail in the uk is pretty much fux0r3d, so we need to adapt:

1/push the online selling thing, and stop being so lazy w/r/t the website (ie it always gets pushed to the back of the queue when a reapir comes in)

2/get qualifications so I can do domestic/industrial electrician work as well.

Otherwise we're totally fucked. The thought of running down the business, watching the shelves get thinner & thinner, & serving the more vulture-like consumers, who only come in when yer selling stuff off is so horrible that I can hardly bear to think about it!

Also, I'm eating peanut m&ms, which are unbelievably disgusting, but I'm addicted to the fucking things.

I suspect a lot of the anon sniping is one person posting under different usernames. Didn't Teeny run an IP check on some anon sniper, and it turned up loads & loads of posts, all the same miserable pissy little attacks, and all under different names? wtf.

Pashmina (Pashmina), Thursday, 24 November 2005 14:03 (twenty years ago)

Afternoon there!

In our lunch break, me and Colleague M went back to her house - her to post a parcel, me to take her because she doesn't have a car. So now, of course, everyone in the office is being very annoying and saying things like "oooh, you went for lunch together? Did you go somewhere romantic???" As M said, "don't they understand that you can just be friends with someone?"

Forest Pines (ForestPines), Thursday, 24 November 2005 14:06 (twenty years ago)

Argh, Pash, that sucks. But I'm sure if you develop the online thing more, things will get better. I mean, it certainly sounds better than the alternatives. Plus, more of an excuse for you to spend more time on ILX line!

Oh, the jabs aren't even anonymous most of the time. I know exactly who they are, and they originate from the same 2 or 3 users every time. But whatever. The "just has tourettes" explanation makes it easier for me to ignore them.

And Peanut M&Ms are candy crack. I used to love them - the peanut butter ones are even better though.

-Stroke-Model (kate), Thursday, 24 November 2005 14:09 (twenty years ago)

Pashmina, I hope you do manage to adapt to the "changing market". My uncle owns a small hardware store in a little rural village; I'm not sure how he manages to make it pay.

Forest Pines (ForestPines), Thursday, 24 November 2005 14:12 (twenty years ago)

Maybe we should have a mini fap soon
Pashmina where's your shop?

beanz (beanz), Thursday, 24 November 2005 14:32 (twenty years ago)

North-East England. A bit far away from the rest of you, I suspect!

Pashmina (Pashmina), Thursday, 24 November 2005 14:33 (twenty years ago)

I would love to FAP with Pash, but it's a bit far. Maybe when the Shimuras tour...

Sorry, I've just been looking up pictures of Tiga on the interweb. Oh my, what a hottie.

-Stroke-Model (kate), Thursday, 24 November 2005 14:34 (twenty years ago)

Perhaps we should revive the megafap idea? We can hire an island in the south Pacific or somewhere.

beanz (beanz), Thursday, 24 November 2005 14:54 (twenty years ago)

I'm confused now. Are we getting spam potatobombed?

-Stroke-Model (kate), Thursday, 24 November 2005 15:03 (twenty years ago)

I'm so bored... I'm so bored... I'm bored, I'm bored, I'm bored.

::yawns::

-Stroke-Model (kate), Thursday, 24 November 2005 15:31 (twenty years ago)

I'm tired

beanz (beanz), Thursday, 24 November 2005 15:34 (twenty years ago)

that, too. I'm on my third cup of coffee. And not sure I'm going to make it through the next two hours.

-Stroke-Model (kate), Thursday, 24 November 2005 15:35 (twenty years ago)

i'm great.

g-spot (g-kit), Thursday, 24 November 2005 15:35 (twenty years ago)

you sure are. :-)

-Stroke-Model (kate), Thursday, 24 November 2005 15:36 (twenty years ago)

Group hug!

beanz (beanz), Thursday, 24 November 2005 15:37 (twenty years ago)

Followed by a group coffee run!

-Stroke-Model (kate), Thursday, 24 November 2005 15:38 (twenty years ago)

then group sex!

g-spot (g-kit), Thursday, 24 November 2005 15:39 (twenty years ago)

whoops, i hit submit.

g-spot (g-kit), Thursday, 24 November 2005 15:40 (twenty years ago)

Errrrrrr...

Not that y'all aren't HOTT but I think your girlfriends would probably disapprove. ;-)

-Stroke-Model (kate), Thursday, 24 November 2005 15:40 (twenty years ago)

they might join in.

g-spot (g-kit), Thursday, 24 November 2005 15:41 (twenty years ago)

My girlfirend definitely wouldn't disapprove!

Panther Pink (Pinkpanther), Thursday, 24 November 2005 15:45 (twenty years ago)

I'm an uncle, as of 2pm today. Wow!

Pashmina (Pashmina), Thursday, 24 November 2005 15:48 (twenty years ago)

Congrats, Pash, on your new Nunclehood!

-Stroke-Model (kate), Thursday, 24 November 2005 15:48 (twenty years ago)

Aww, congrats Pash!

Panther Pink (Pinkpanther), Thursday, 24 November 2005 15:49 (twenty years ago)

I contest I am the most bored person on this thread :(

Congratulations Pashmina!

tissp! (the impossible shortest specia), Thursday, 24 November 2005 15:49 (twenty years ago)

Wait, can we go back to that group sex idea now that TISSP is back? ;-)

-Stroke-Model (kate), Thursday, 24 November 2005 15:51 (twenty years ago)

Hooray! I am up for anything that will alleviate the tragic bordom of this training course.

ANYTHING

tissp! (the impossible shortest specia), Thursday, 24 November 2005 15:52 (twenty years ago)

OK, now we just have to get you boys into these shopping carts...

-Stroke-Model (kate), Thursday, 24 November 2005 15:57 (twenty years ago)

Hahaha

tissp! (the impossible shortest specia), Thursday, 24 November 2005 15:58 (twenty years ago)

I contest I am the most bored person on this thread :(

i disagree!

not-goodwin (not-goodwin), Thursday, 24 November 2005 16:05 (twenty years ago)

Hey congratulatulations Pashmina!
It's all gone quiet – are you all off having your orgy now?

beanz (beanz), Thursday, 24 November 2005 16:19 (twenty years ago)

Tragically, no.

Pashmina (Pashmina), Thursday, 24 November 2005 16:20 (twenty years ago)

+ thanks to the lot of you.

Pashmina (Pashmina), Thursday, 24 November 2005 16:20 (twenty years ago)

I should be so lucky!

(Great, now I'm going to have Kylie stuck in my head.)

Sorry I'm not very interesting today. I'm being all shallow coz I'm a model now. ;-)

-Stroke-Model (kate), Thursday, 24 November 2005 16:22 (twenty years ago)

yo to uncle pashmina

Ste (Fuzzy), Thursday, 24 November 2005 16:22 (twenty years ago)

Payslip! Things have brightened considerably, and I will be enthusiastic for a whole half hour more

beanz (beanz), Thursday, 24 November 2005 16:34 (twenty years ago)

I'm not getting mine till tomorrow. And the moment I get it, it has to go off to the bank that's underwriting my mortgage.

Also, tomorrow I will be PAID but it will all go in the deposit on my house in a few days. Bah.

-Stroke-Model (kate), Thursday, 24 November 2005 16:37 (twenty years ago)

i'm listening to Bananarama.

g-spot (g-kit), Thursday, 24 November 2005 16:38 (twenty years ago)

beanz, um... d'you, like, fancy maybe having a drink one lunchtime soon? Obviously, um, if you don't want to you don't have to, that's cool, but, you know, if you'd like to that'd be cool too?

Markelby (Mark C), Thursday, 24 November 2005 16:38 (twenty years ago)

I don't get paid until next Wednesday godamnit!

Panther Pink (Pinkpanther), Thursday, 24 November 2005 16:41 (twenty years ago)

Humph, no one's asking me for illicit lunchtime drinks. Who works near me? Carsmilesteve, fancy an illicit lunchtime pint at the Freemasons Arms?

(Unless you want to meet me in the weird bit of Cambridgeshire, Pink!)

-Stroke-Model (kate), Thursday, 24 November 2005 16:43 (twenty years ago)

brrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr

saturday i go shopping for winter clothes, more so for my christmas trip to new york which is looking more and more likely to be a solo holiday.

Ste (Fuzzy), Thursday, 24 November 2005 16:46 (twenty years ago)

Mark, yes that would be very cool! I can't do this week or next cos of deadlines, but maybe the week after? Does that email address work?

beanz (beanz), Thursday, 24 November 2005 16:48 (twenty years ago)

Sounds smashing! Yes, it does work, obvious extraneous bit aside. Speak to you soon!

Markelby (Mark C), Thursday, 24 November 2005 16:50 (twenty years ago)

(Unless you want to meet me in the weird bit of Cambridgeshire, Pink!)
But of course!

Panther Pink (Pinkpanther), Thursday, 24 November 2005 16:52 (twenty years ago)

Morning!

When I left the house this morning, it was cold, windy, but dry. After I got to within 5 minutes of the office, I started to see one or two snowflakes in my headlights, and by the time I pulled into the office carpark, it was practically a blizzard!

Forest Pines (ForestPines), Friday, 25 November 2005 08:15 (twenty years ago)

(that was 15 minutes ago, and there's a good covering of snow on the ground now)

Forest Pines (ForestPines), Friday, 25 November 2005 08:16 (twenty years ago)

Blizzard? Blimey!

We just had frozen puddles this morning.

-Stroke-Model (kate), Friday, 25 November 2005 08:41 (twenty years ago)

One of my colleagues had his last day with us yesterday, and to mark the occasion, after work the lot of us (4 ppl), plus two spouses, went curling! Was fun.

The Vintner's Lipogram (OleM), Friday, 25 November 2005 08:48 (twenty years ago)

where are you, FP?

g-spot (g-kit), Friday, 25 November 2005 08:49 (twenty years ago)

He's in Grrrrrrrimsby.

-Stroke-Model (kate), Friday, 25 November 2005 09:01 (twenty years ago)

I went to sleep at 9pm last night. It was glorious. I'd had a lovely garlic mushroom pizza and a pint of Bitter And Twisted and it was just so warm and comfy in my bed I dozed off.

And then had horrible dreams about being naked in public and then having to be PHOTOGRAPHED but then I ended up snogging an ILX0r sna now I'm all disturbed by it.

I was in this lovely walled garden/courtyard and it was so beautiful and lovely, humid and warm to the point where the air was shimmering, so I went up on top of this little ledge thing, and there was an open air bathtub so I decided to take a shower and that was when I noticed that the courtyard was all RINGED AROUND WITH FLATS, argh.

But I woke up about half an hour before my alarm clock, which was nice.

-Stroke-Model (kate), Friday, 25 November 2005 09:13 (twenty years ago)

Also... I got paid today! Hurrah! Look at all those naughts on my balance! Too bad it's all going to the bank in a few weeks when I buy my house. :-(

-Stroke-Model (kate), Friday, 25 November 2005 09:16 (twenty years ago)

Where is everyone? Lost in the snow?

it's only 9.30 and I'm bored already. :-/

Sophisticated Boom Boom (kate), Friday, 25 November 2005 09:37 (twenty years ago)

I am here! My car is faulty again! Hooray! I am still trapped in this training course! HELP ME

tissp! (the impossible shortest specia), Friday, 25 November 2005 09:39 (twenty years ago)

Morning all! No snow here, but my car is messing about again, after supposedly being fixed earlier this week! grrr!

Panther Pink (Pinkpanther), Friday, 25 November 2005 09:40 (twenty years ago)

Oh no Pink, what is the problem with it?

tissp! (the impossible shortest specia), Friday, 25 November 2005 09:42 (twenty years ago)

Cars don't like cold weather any more than we do.

Actually, when it's sunny like this, I *love* cold weather, but I know I'm in the minority.

Sophisticated Boom Boom (kate), Friday, 25 November 2005 09:42 (twenty years ago)

Good morning! What are you being trained to do, tissp!?

I like cold clear days too

beanz (beanz), Friday, 25 November 2005 09:44 (twenty years ago)

C plus fucking plus

tissp! (the impossible shortest specia), Friday, 25 November 2005 09:46 (twenty years ago)

Ugh

beanz (beanz), Friday, 25 November 2005 09:57 (twenty years ago)

I left the van lights on yesterday, & the battery was flat, so I had to bus it home.

Bus in this am:

1/first bus doesn't turn up, next bus is 1/2hr later
2/next bus is suppsed to get to newcastle in 35 minutes. It takes 1hr 5 minutes to get there, partly b/c the driver is eastern european, and barely speaks english! Anything other than single or return & he doesn't understand! wtf? Not fair on the guy or the passengers.

Anyway, get into work 45m late. Am pissed off.

Pashmina (Pashmina), Friday, 25 November 2005 10:00 (twenty years ago)

Oh, and Forest! TEC is from a little village halfway between Grantham (yes, I know, Thatcher Country) and Sleaford, apparently. Anywhere you know?

Sophisticated Boom Boom (kate), Friday, 25 November 2005 10:00 (twenty years ago)

Also, noticed uk daily papers falling overthemseles to be the "first" with the news by basically printing front page obits of g best EVEN THOUGH HE ISN'T ACTUALLY DEAD YET. really, REALLY classy, guys.

Pashmina (Pashmina), Friday, 25 November 2005 10:01 (twenty years ago)

the battery in my car died yesterday! had to get a new one. this is kinda freaky tbh.

g-spot (g-kit), Friday, 25 November 2005 10:08 (twenty years ago)

Same on the radio - lots of 'tributes'. Understandable but leaves a bad taste in the mouth
xpost

beanz (beanz), Friday, 25 November 2005 10:09 (twenty years ago)

Oh no Pink, what is the problem with it?
It keeps cutting out when I take my foot off the accelerator. It's only when the engine is cold though. I called the AA out the other day though as it did it for about 30 mins in the fog & I was petrified that someone was going to crash into me. He said it was the vacum/breather pipe, or something or other, which we changed. It was OK for a day & is now buggered again. I really want a new car, but I just cannot afford it. :-( I really need my car to be trouble free at the moment.

Panther Pink (Pinkpanther), Friday, 25 November 2005 10:20 (twenty years ago)

Sounds to me more like your engine is idling too slowly. Used to happen to me in an old Peugot 205.

tissp! (the impossible shortest specia), Friday, 25 November 2005 10:29 (twenty years ago)

That's the far end of the county, Kate, not an area I know very well really.

Forest Pines (ForestPines), Friday, 25 November 2005 10:40 (twenty years ago)

Ah well, it was worth a try.

Tee hee, I went upstairs to take my last bit of info to the financial advisor and now we're good to go for the mortgage! Cross fingers it all happens quickly.

But the bad news is that the Boris Johnson lookylike has done something tragic to his hair and is not nearly as hott as he used to be. Bah.

Sophisticated Boom Boom (kate), Friday, 25 November 2005 10:48 (twenty years ago)

I think it's an idling problem too tissp. Just don't know how to rectify that myself. It's booked in for next Thursday! *sigh*

Panther Pink (Pinkpanther), Friday, 25 November 2005 10:48 (twenty years ago)

You mean he's brushed it? ;-)

(xpost)

Forest Pines (ForestPines), Friday, 25 November 2005 10:49 (twenty years ago)

What car do you have Pink? Adjusting idling is actually pretty simple.

tissp! (the impossible shortest specia), Friday, 25 November 2005 10:51 (twenty years ago)

Cut it short and brushed it. Yes, highly tragic.

Argh, trying to arrange recording for tomorrow.

Sophisticated Boom Boom (kate), Friday, 25 November 2005 10:53 (twenty years ago)

What car do you have Pink? Adjusting idling is actually pretty simple.
Yeah? It's an N reg VW Golf.

Panther Pink (Pinkpanther), Friday, 25 November 2005 10:54 (twenty years ago)

My G-reg 205 cuts out on cold days when it's idling too. I just pull the choke out a tiny fraction or rev up slightly for the first 5 mins and it's ok. I guess that doesn't help, Pink?

beanz (beanz), Friday, 25 November 2005 10:59 (twenty years ago)

I don't have a choke Beanz, it's a 2 litre GTI.

Panther Pink (Pinkpanther), Friday, 25 November 2005 11:00 (twenty years ago)

Not too sure how difficult that would be Pink (never seen under the bonnet of one), but I am guessing as long as VW didn't hide the carburetor out of the way it should be relatively simple to do--how long did it take to replace the vacuum pipe? xpost

2litre GTI? Blimey!

tissp! (the impossible shortest specia), Friday, 25 November 2005 11:03 (twenty years ago)

About 5 minutes.
It's not really impressive if it doesn't work now is it?!!

Panther Pink (Pinkpanther), Friday, 25 November 2005 11:08 (twenty years ago)

(No choke = what I meant but didn't ask properly)

I'd chuck it away and buy a new one, if I were you

beanz (beanz), Friday, 25 November 2005 11:13 (twenty years ago)

i have a 1 litre nissan micra. how cool's THAT?

g-spot (g-kit), Friday, 25 November 2005 11:14 (twenty years ago)

Dude, if I could I would. I'd really love a new car. :-(
x-post
G - if it goes, then it's a lot cooler than my car!

Panther Pink (Pinkpanther), Friday, 25 November 2005 11:15 (twenty years ago)

I want one of these. And I'm not much of a luster after cars, but this and a DB4 would do nicely.

http://www.picturelane.com/cars/astonmartin/db6vantagevolante/aston-martin_db6-vantage-volante_1967_02.jpg

beanz (beanz), Friday, 25 November 2005 11:21 (twenty years ago)

i also have a red jaguar lol rofflez etc

Sailor Kitten (g-kit), Friday, 25 November 2005 11:22 (twenty years ago)

Right, can't imagine that the idle adjust is hard to get to in that case. All you need to do is find the air filter and remove it. Under there there will be a small screw that you can turn to adjust the idle speed.

Other problems with idling can be caused by a leak in the breather pipe, which is why the AA man replaced it. However, because that didn't work, either you have another leak somewhere, the new pipe is now damaged again, or the idle speed is genuinely too low.

If you want to change the idle speed, start the car, and let it warm up to normal temperature (you might have to ride the accelerator in the cold to let it warm up properly if it keeps stalling). Turn off the engine.

Remove the air filter assembly to expose the carburetor. You'll have to then do a bit of searching to find the idle screw (a short cut is to have someone operate the accellerator pedal to find out which screw it is--it is connected to the throttle and you'll see it moving).

Start the engine again, and use a screwdriver to carefully turn the idling screw. tightening the screw increases the idling speed. Don't turn it more than half a turn, then wait 30 seconds or so. You should notice the idle speed increase. Do you have a tachometer? If so, check to see the RPM it's idling at--I can't remember a good idling speed for petrol models. I seem to remember anything more than 1000 and you've got a different problem.

Switch off the engine and replace the air filter and you're done.

tissp! (the impossible shortest specia), Friday, 25 November 2005 11:23 (twenty years ago)

I no longer understand anything on this thread. :-(

Errrr... Jaguars! pick-ups! Trim-pots! Stompboxes! Compression! Delay!

x-post ha.

Sophisticated Boom Boom (kate), Friday, 25 November 2005 11:23 (twenty years ago)

i'm using my delay lots more now. subtle, but effective. we have new songs! one is called Popel Shot.

Sailor Kitten (g-kit), Friday, 25 November 2005 11:25 (twenty years ago)

Tisp, I'd love to say that sounds really simple, but it kinda doesn't. The AA man didn't replace the pipe, we did. We've checked it over & there doesn't seem to be any problems with it.
It all sounds quite simple, but I are scared! :-(

Panther Pink (Pinkpanther), Friday, 25 November 2005 11:26 (twenty years ago)

Yay! Hurrah for Delay. We have loads of new songs, too. Basically I gave up on NaSoAlMo and just decided to use them all for the Shimuras. We've got I Capture The Castle and Sticky and Brown and maybe even R U Happy Happy Happy.

Sophisticated Boom Boom (kate), Friday, 25 November 2005 11:27 (twenty years ago)

Trust me, it's not that difficult! It just sounds difficult because there's a few little things you need to remember. Alternatively you could ask the garage to do it for you.

I would say you could bring your car round to me and I will have a go for you, but I am not here this weekend :(

tissp! (the impossible shortest specia), Friday, 25 November 2005 11:29 (twenty years ago)

Aww thanks anyway Tissp! It's booked in for next Thursday, so I hope we don't have any snow or fog in the mean time! :-(

Kate - I know some ppl got to see your pics & now you've removed them, but do you still have it? Could you email it to me, cos I really want to see it!! pretty pls!

Panther Pink (Pinkpanther), Friday, 25 November 2005 11:31 (twenty years ago)

yeah, I'll email it to you (I promised it to Anna, as well) but please please PLEASE don't sent it to anyone else.

Sophisticated Boom Boom (kate), Friday, 25 November 2005 11:33 (twenty years ago)

Of course I wont. I will send my own pic to you next thursday!! ;-)

Panther Pink (Pinkpanther), Friday, 25 November 2005 11:36 (twenty years ago)

I thought you had to wait until the 12th December! Omigod, I can't wait to see your picture!

Sophisticated Boom Boom (kate), Friday, 25 November 2005 11:37 (twenty years ago)

1st Dec! 6 days to go!

Panther Pink (Pinkpanther), Friday, 25 November 2005 11:39 (twenty years ago)

Argh, I am so bored. Today is the day that just will not end.

Sophisticated Boom Boom (kate), Friday, 25 November 2005 13:02 (twenty years ago)

Tell me about it Kate! *yawn* Problem is, I have so much work to do!

Panther Pink (Pinkpanther), Friday, 25 November 2005 13:02 (twenty years ago)

Pass it over, I'll do some of your work.

Who am I kidding? I can't even concentrate on mine. :-/

Sophisticated Boom Boom (kate), Friday, 25 November 2005 13:07 (twenty years ago)

Haha! in other news, I've just got my veggie box delivered. I've got some swede at last, yay my fave! Also, I've got some fennel. What on earth shall I do with fennel?

Panther Pink (Pinkpanther), Friday, 25 November 2005 13:10 (twenty years ago)

I thought fennel was a spice!

Errrm... make soup out of it? That's what to do with any veggies you don't understand.

Sophisticated Boom Boom (kate), Friday, 25 November 2005 13:11 (twenty years ago)

Personally, I would feed fennel to someone I didn't like. But it works fairly well in baked dishes - the aniseedy flavour mellows and it becomes just about palatable.

Markelby (Mark C), Friday, 25 November 2005 13:14 (twenty years ago)

Also, the Italian word for fennel is also used in the sense of "faggot".

Markelby (Mark C), Friday, 25 November 2005 13:15 (twenty years ago)

A quick google reveals... Carrot Fennel Soup. Which certainly looks very tasty:

Carrot-Fennel Soup
Adapted from Amanda Hesser in The New York Times Magazine, and, I think, Cooking for Mr. Latte

This light soup strikes a perfect balance between the delicate springtime flavors of young carrots and fennel. Be sure to choose carrots that are sweet and worthy of being eaten on their own; if you make this soup with tired, winter-weary ones, you’ll be sorry.

1 Tbs olive oil
1 medium fennel bulb, trimmed and thinly sliced; fronds reserved and chopped
1 ½ lbs carrots, sliced into ¼-inch rounds
1 large garlic clove, thinly sliced
4-5 cups vegetable broth (I used Imagine brand)
¼ tsp salt, or to taste
1/3 cup fresh orange juice
Freshly ground black pepper, to taste

In a large, heavy saucepan, warm oil over medium heat. Add the fennel slices, and cook, stirring, until softened. Add the carrots and garlic, and cook for another minute or two. Pour in 4 cups vegetable broth (if, after puréeing, you feel that the soup is too thick, you can add the final cup, but it’s better to err on the side of adding too little at first), and season with salt. Simmer, covered, until the carrots and fennel are very tender, about 20 minutes.

Remove the soup from the heat, and stir in the orange juice and reserved fennel fronds. If you have an immersion blender, purée the soup directly in the pot; otherwise, transfer it in batches to a food processor or blender, puréeing until smooth. Season with salt and pepper as needed, and serve warm.

Sophisticated Boom Boom (kate), Friday, 25 November 2005 13:16 (twenty years ago)

I don't think I've ever had it actually, is it horrible Mark?

Panther Pink (Pinkpanther), Friday, 25 November 2005 13:22 (twenty years ago)

Well, the spice fennel takes a lot like liquorice. Don't know if the vegetable does.

Sophisticated Boom Boom (kate), Friday, 25 November 2005 13:23 (twenty years ago)

pink, get your fennel and some celery and an onion and some veggie stock and a bit of salt, chop up the veggies then stick them all in a casserole on a low heat for about four hours. it makes the most delicious soup. num num. hm, perhaps i should go pick up our veggie box...

xpost it is quite liquoricey, yeah, but not overbearingly so. if you do the soup above it goes all caramelly but without making your soup into horrid sweet gunk (this is why you need the stock).

emsk ( emsk), Friday, 25 November 2005 13:31 (twenty years ago)

Personally I don't like it, but lots of people do. If you like aniseed, you'll like fennel I'd imagine. Fennel seeds are stronger and used as a spice.

Markelby (Mark C), Friday, 25 November 2005 13:34 (twenty years ago)

Thanks Emsk. As a matter of interest, which vegetable stock do you use? I tend to use vecon but it just doesn't taste right in risotto or soups!

Panther Pink (Pinkpanther), Friday, 25 November 2005 13:38 (twenty years ago)

Back from pub. Irish coffee, num num.

Sophisticated Boom Boom (kate), Friday, 25 November 2005 14:42 (twenty years ago)

Ooh now that sounds tasty!

Panther Pink (Pinkpanther), Friday, 25 November 2005 14:43 (twenty years ago)

Now I *really* can't concentrate on my job. La la la la laaa.

Sophisticated Boom Boom (kate), Friday, 25 November 2005 14:44 (twenty years ago)

yeh pink, vecon. actually i think last time i made this i used the knorr one and it was a bit overbearing. maybe you don't need stock actually...

i have just booked a ticket to amsterdam next week on the national express for NINE QUID to see d34d m34dow and bl4ck m0unt4in at the paradiso, yeeha! nine bloody quid!! ok it's a 48 hour journey, 24 of which will be on the bus/ferry, for a 3hr show, and i'll have to hang around in amsterdam between the end of the gig and when my bus leaves at 8am cos i can't afford somewhere to stay (don't mind that really, there are plenty 24hr places in amsterdam, right?)... i am EXCITED!

emsk ( emsk), Friday, 25 November 2005 14:52 (twenty years ago)

Omigod! OK, the journey will be rubbish but Paradiso is GRATE!!! It's in a converted church and is BEAUTIFUL. They (used to?) usually do a club night afterwards so you can dance until dawn and not worry about sleeping. Though don't do like I did and go home with random dronerock boys because they will turn into STALKERS.

Sophisticated Boom Boom (kate), Friday, 25 November 2005 14:59 (twenty years ago)

Nine quid, bloody hell, it costs more than that to do newcastle-london on national express!

Pashmina (Pashmina), Friday, 25 November 2005 15:05 (twenty years ago)

For vegetable stock cubes, try Osem in the kosher section!

beanz (beanz), Friday, 25 November 2005 15:08 (twenty years ago)

£9!!!! It costs me £13 return to London & that's with a discount card. (normally it would be £20!)

Panther Pink (Pinkpanther), Friday, 25 November 2005 15:15 (twenty years ago)

tbh i'm kind of looking forward to the journey too... i like the moving part of travelling anyway, it feels like i've dropped out of normal life for a few hours. and it'll be a chance to READ and PLAY MUSIC which i do not get to do on the bike :) i know a skanky bus isn't as nice as a train (tho i did have a gorgeous long haul bus journey in thailand once) but still. i did greyhound. i did a dodgy bus with a hole in the floor in china. i can do eurolines! and yeh i've been to the paradiso once before, about 8 years ago, but i can barely remember anything about it. i remember amsterdam being deliciously freezing cold (it was january) and full of canals and bikes. dancing til dawn sounds like something i'm up for. then come home and see brakes @ luminaire hurrah!

couple of xposts, yeah i can't believe this nine quid thing. i keep looking for the catch - does it not include the ferry or something? but it all seems to be in order!

emsk ( emsk), Friday, 25 November 2005 15:16 (twenty years ago)

You can read on a bus? I'd get car-sick in the first ten mins and end up slitting my wrists after 12 hours of nausea.

Markelby (Mark C), Friday, 25 November 2005 15:17 (twenty years ago)

Oh, you're going to Brakes and not Sonic Cathedrals? Psaw. I'm going to the shoegazers. x-post

Sophisticated Boom Boom (kate), Friday, 25 November 2005 15:18 (twenty years ago)

Last time I came down to London (for VdGG reunion gig) was on the overnight Nat'l Express, and IIRC it was something like £35! (too young for pensioner card/too old for student card) God what an absolutely miserable experience it was! A sad reminder that I'm not as young as I used to be (creak, creak) back in the '80's, I used to regularly bus down & back overnight for a day-trip.

Pashmina (Pashmina), Friday, 25 November 2005 15:22 (twenty years ago)

I used to love going on the bus (riding the dog as we called it in the States) back and forth to NYC. But now I just can't do it any more - it's not the reading (I'm still fine with that) or carsickness or anything, it's that I can't sit down in an enclosed space for 3 hours without getting creaky!

Sophisticated Boom Boom (kate), Friday, 25 November 2005 15:25 (twenty years ago)

You can read on a bus? I'd get car-sick in the first ten mins and end up slitting my wrists after 12 hours of nausea.
Me too! :-(

Panther Pink (Pinkpanther), Friday, 25 November 2005 15:26 (twenty years ago)

You can read on a bus? I'd get car-sick in the first ten mins and end up slitting my wrists after 12 hours of nausea

yeh i can read anywhere... i am a very very good daydreamer though and able to entertain myself and stay happy on long journeys unless it's running late and the late-running means i might miss whatever i'm going for or my next connection or whatever, in which case i can go a bit caged-animal.

Oh, you're going to Brakes and not Sonic Cathedrals? Psaw. I'm going to the shoegazers. x-post

i am pretty torn, but i keep missing brakes. i keep missing sonic cathedrals too though. but i don't know them. but i asked them if you could play there and they haven't got back to me yet.

IIRC it was something like £35!

that is bluddy extortionate. i hope the hostess was, er, jolly, at least?

emsk ( emsk), Friday, 25 November 2005 15:33 (twenty years ago)

I'm still bored. And we're debating getting Krispy Kreme but none of us want to go out in the cold and get them. Bah.

Sophisticated Boom Boom (kate), Friday, 25 November 2005 16:00 (twenty years ago)

ha ha, we've just sent the temp for krispy kreme! Yay, Finns!

Sophisticated Boom Boom (kate), Friday, 25 November 2005 16:13 (twenty years ago)

I can't open myself to the ridicule I'd provoke by bringing doughnuts into the office twice in three days. I may yet change my mind.

beanz (beanz), Friday, 25 November 2005 16:34 (twenty years ago)

Time for home!

Well, time to go round to Colleague M's mum's house, at least.

Forest Pines (ForestPines), Friday, 25 November 2005 17:00 (twenty years ago)

Blimey. Maybe M's mum fancies you!

Sophisticated Boom Boom (kate), Friday, 25 November 2005 17:01 (twenty years ago)

Have a good weekend! I'm here for another hour :(

beanz (beanz), Friday, 25 November 2005 17:06 (twenty years ago)

Man, I'm supposed to leave now... but I'm meeting a friend for dinner in Clerkenwell and she's coming from the FT so lord knows when she will actually get out of work, and it's cold and I don't want to hang around.... argh.

And someone wrote me on the dating site, but you only get 3 emails a day and I've run out - and even though I told him to email my setup address, he wrote me back through the site, argh. Oh well, guess he won't get a reply until Monday then. Serves him right for not listening to me.

Sophisticated Boom Boom (kate), Friday, 25 November 2005 17:36 (twenty years ago)

Good morning! Good weekend? I don't feel like I had one at all.

beanz (beanz), Monday, 28 November 2005 10:14 (twenty years ago)

I had a very functional w/e! I don't like the fact that it's Monday, but that does mean it's only 3 days til exciting stuff on Thursday!

Panther Pink (Pinkpanther), Monday, 28 November 2005 10:19 (twenty years ago)

Hope it goes quickly
So what did you do with your fennel in the end?

beanz (beanz), Monday, 28 November 2005 10:31 (twenty years ago)

two song lines I cannot get out of my head this morning:

"There only 1.99er"

"She's lovin by proxy"

Ste (Fuzzy), Monday, 28 November 2005 10:34 (twenty years ago)

Nothing yet Beanz! Do you think it would be OK in a veggie soup, not too overpowering?

Panther Pink (Pinkpanther), Monday, 28 November 2005 10:40 (twenty years ago)

I think it would be ok. It's winter after all, maybe you need something a bit noticeable. I don't think it's overpowering as such, just distinctive. Anyway, the worst that can happen is you don't make it again!

beanz (beanz), Monday, 28 November 2005 10:47 (twenty years ago)

Brr, the office is cold today.

I ended up going round to Colleague M's mum's house *twice* over the weekend - and as we were leaving, she said "see you two again soon". *However*, she is also very interested in what M keeps telling her about me flirting with K all the time.

Forest Pines (ForestPines), Monday, 28 November 2005 10:53 (twenty years ago)

FP - I find it hard to keep up! Confooosed of Cambridge!
Beanz - I want it to tirn out OK as I'm putting some lovely sweet potatoes, parsnips & leeks in there. All tasty veg on their own. Just feel the urge to make a hearty soup you know? "Soup, soup, a tasty soup, soup, a lovely......"

Panther Pink (Pinkpanther), Monday, 28 November 2005 10:54 (twenty years ago)

we had about 4 flakes of snow this morning, 3 more than last year.

Ste (Fuzzy), Monday, 28 November 2005 10:55 (twenty years ago)

We had snow on Friday, but it left as quickly as it arrived!

Panther Pink (Pinkpanther), Monday, 28 November 2005 10:57 (twenty years ago)

Morning, sorry I'm so late. Didn't even get in to work until 11am as I overslept. Not even a hangover, just sheer exhaustion.

Spent the weekend in the studio, and it went SUPER WELL. Terry, the producer, is GRATE!!! Little Irish DDB who's really into MBV and Stereolab and stuff. Plus his boyfriend David is a photographer, so it was a one stop shop for all our demoing needs. It went really really well, the prelim mixes are sounding great, I'm very excited.

Sophisticated Boom Boom (kate), Monday, 28 November 2005 11:10 (twenty years ago)

Who the f*ck is following this thread by email? That's really freaking me out.

Sophisticated Boom Boom (kate), Monday, 28 November 2005 11:11 (twenty years ago)

I wondered about that too Kate

Pink: don't worry, so do I.

Forest Pines (ForestPines), Monday, 28 November 2005 11:13 (twenty years ago)

Johny just probably forgot to uncheck the notification by email box, no need to freak out K! haha!

Panther Pink (Pinkpanther), Monday, 28 November 2005 11:13 (twenty years ago)

Oh, if you want to see what I'm sending K for Christmas, scroll down to my "What are you giving for Christmas this year?" thread.

Forest Pines (ForestPines), Monday, 28 November 2005 11:14 (twenty years ago)

No, this is recent. It wasn't happening last week.

Call me paranoid, but I don't like it. I've asked if they can disable it on the mod board. I mean, call me paranoid, but gee, I think with the recent behaviour of certain folks on ILX, I have every reason to be paranoid.

Sophisticated Boom Boom (kate), Monday, 28 November 2005 11:15 (twenty years ago)

i don't understand. following by email? what's that bout? why's it wrong?

Sailor Kitten (g-kit), Monday, 28 November 2005 11:17 (twenty years ago)

1) It's a way of harvesting our email addresses. Increased spam.

2) If you want to hang out on this thread, come out and hang out on this thread. Don't get it emailed privately to your email account - it's worse than lurking, it's like eavesdropping or something.

Sophisticated Boom Boom (kate), Monday, 28 November 2005 11:20 (twenty years ago)

Pink, I want your soup. I also want snow! It's overcast but doesn't look dark enough for snow today.

Yeah I wondered about the emails too. It ain't me. Not wrong, just... odd. Someone's going to get 50 emails about soup and snow and sleeping in. More fool them

beanz (beanz), Monday, 28 November 2005 11:20 (twenty years ago)

Well, I don't like it. I've started a new thread here:

UK Watercooler 4: A New Beginning

Sophisticated Boom Boom (kate), Monday, 28 November 2005 11:23 (twenty years ago)


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