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Draw all the bile to this one thread eh.

I still don't have the full story about what happened, but i WAS genuinely concerned that there might be something more complex going on. As it turned out it wa pretty straightforward - an exploit we've already suffered. i will try to fix the various issues asap

Enough with the "Alan is great" stuff - it does nothing for my already fragile ego :-)

― Britain's Obtusest Shepherd (Alan), Tuesday, 15 November 2005 16:42 (twenty years ago)

u rock alan lol

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― Theorry Henry (Enrique), Tuesday, 15 November 2005 16:46 (twenty years ago)

im beginning to think this was all a hoax

otherwise, has to be the biggest storm in a teacup...all day

― terry lennox. (gareth), Tuesday, 15 November 2005 16:46 (twenty years ago)

I don't know if this or the Mod Req Board is the right place to bring this up, but something's hinkey with the TITTWIS thread (maybe lotsa other threads too?)
Regardless, thanks for yr efforts Alan. Much appreciated.

― Huk-L (Huk-L), Tuesday, 15 November 2005 16:51 (twenty years ago)

Not really much of a storm. Bet it took a chunk of someone's time though.

― Tim (Tim), Tuesday, 15 November 2005 16:52 (twenty years ago)

Can the noise board admins have full mod privs again?

― Jdubz (ex machina), Tuesday, 15 November 2005 17:04 (twenty years ago)

are we all chipping in for the buffy boxset yet?

― ken c (ken c), Tuesday, 15 November 2005 17:06 (twenty years ago)

Jon I've removed Barry and Thermo and given you back FAQ and Revoke privs, but I don't know who else was a mod there so it's going to have to be you doing it manually - sorry.

― Tom (Groke), Tuesday, 15 November 2005 17:10 (twenty years ago)

thank you!

― Jdubz (ex machina), Tuesday, 15 November 2005 17:13 (twenty years ago)

Wasn't Jon the one putting up all the atari penis images?

― Francis Bazzini, Tuesday, 15 November 2005 17:18 (twenty years ago)

he's like that Michael guy who used to go to Studio 54 and piss on people. nobody really minded!

― Sororah T Massacre (blueski), Tuesday, 15 November 2005 17:32 (twenty years ago)

What happened? OMG! What happened?

― jel -- (jel), Tuesday, 15 November 2005 17:34 (twenty years ago)

i think i'd mind being pissed on. luckily internets haven't advanced that far yet.

― grimly fiendish (grimlord), Tuesday, 15 November 2005 17:35 (twenty years ago)

"all the atari penis images"

Bah! My internet access wasn't working all morning, and I finally log on to find there was Atari penis images and board shutdowns.

Stupid Telewest.

― Hello Sunshine (Hello Sunshine), Tuesday, 15 November 2005 17:35 (twenty years ago)

This thread still does rather strange things both to my Internet Explorer (stops loading, times new roman font, no scrolling) and my Firefox (I only see a picture and the scrollbar, doesn't do anything, no messages in sight) - is this something to do with one of the problems?

Or are guys locked out of that particular thread about menstruation?

― StanM (StanM), Tuesday, 15 November 2005 17:46 (twenty years ago)

xxx-post

you wouldn't believe it, david hasslehoff posted on one of TITTWIS threads. caused a ruckus all morning.

― latebloomer (latebloomer), Tuesday, 15 November 2005 17:49 (twenty years ago)

The menstruation thread locks me out too, albeit with a foxy Claire Danes pic. But that's what I get for looking, I guess.

― gypsy mothra (gypsy mothra), Tuesday, 15 November 2005 17:53 (twenty years ago)

How do you mean "it locks me out?" You can't post?

― Nathalie is in Da Base II Dark (stevie nixed), Tuesday, 15 November 2005 17:58 (twenty years ago)

No, it either stops loading (Internet Explorer) or that picture is on the foreground so you don't see any text (Firefox).

― StanM (StanM), Tuesday, 15 November 2005 17:59 (twenty years ago)

Ah ok. Well, that's the only solution: turning off the pics in the settings. :-(

― Nathalie is in Da Base II Dark (stevie nixed), Tuesday, 15 November 2005 18:06 (twenty years ago)

turning off images in ILX prefs doesn't fix it; it has to be in browser prefs.

as someone mentioned elsewhere, in firefox you can block images from a certain URL. i don't think crappy IE5 for teh Mac will let me do that here at work, though ;)

― grimly fiendish (grimlord), Tuesday, 15 November 2005 18:16 (twenty years ago)

actually: turning images off in IE prefs doesn't work either. as soon as it tries to load that image, it fucks up with a grey screen. i suppose i could try chucking the cache etc, but really: life's too short.

honestly. jesus fucking wept. etc.

― grimly fiendish (grimlord), Tuesday, 15 November 2005 18:19 (twenty years ago)

possibly a moderator could put "clicking on this might crash your browser" in the title?

actually i should try that 'moderation request' thing i guess

― tom west (thomp), Tuesday, 15 November 2005 18:36 (twenty years ago)

So exactly who was doing the css (I think?) "tagging" on those threads? Also, why is anything other than basic forum html--fonts, links and images-- allowed on thread posts? Is ILX a subsidiary of Sony?

― M. V. (M.V.), Tuesday, 15 November 2005 19:40 (twenty years ago)

― Jdubz (ex machina), Tuesday, 15 November 2005 19:44 (twenty years ago)

"funny"

― grimly fiendish (grimlord), Tuesday, 15 November 2005 19:54 (twenty years ago)

"peculiar"

― grimly fiendish (grimlord), Tuesday, 15 November 2005 19:54 (twenty years ago)

this is the thread about the OUTRAGE (do you see)

― stockholm cindy is in your extended network (Jody Beth Rosen), Tuesday, 15 November 2005 19:57 (twenty years ago)

Outraged kitten snipers?

― Hello Sunshine (Hello Sunshine), Tuesday, 15 November 2005 20:01 (twenty years ago)

― heh, Tuesday, 15 November 2005 20:02 (twenty years ago)

http://www.3ammagazine.com/litarchives/images/2002_jun/savage/londons_outrage.jpg

― KSTFUNS (Ex Leon), Tuesday, 15 November 2005 20:02 (twenty years ago)

Gevalt. If by "funny", you mean "a pain in my ass", because in addition to my home computer not booting up and having 4 fillings er, FILLED today and people shouting that everything's late at work, I was really hoping ILX would be FUX0RED so I wouldn't even have a distraction from crappy real life. Thanks.

― Laurel (Laurel), Tuesday, 15 November 2005 20:02 (twenty years ago)

― heh, Tuesday, 15 November 2005 20:03 (twenty years ago)

― heh, Tuesday, 15 November 2005 20:05 (twenty years ago)

lol @ waaaahmbulance

― stockholm cindy is in your extended network (Jody Beth Rosen), Tuesday, 15 November 2005 20:07 (twenty years ago)

― heh, Tuesday, 15 November 2005 20:08 (twenty years ago)

― YARLY, Tuesday, 15 November 2005 20:12 (twenty years ago)

[mental note: steal "wahmbulance.jpg" for future use]

― grimly fiendish (grimlord), Tuesday, 15 November 2005 20:14 (twenty years ago)

― heh, Tuesday, 15 November 2005 20:28 (twenty years ago)

I still havent seen a single image on any thread, and all I had was "hide images" ticked. This whole thing is just hilarious to me, like watching people get angry at an invisible godzilla.

― Trayce (trayce), Tuesday, 15 November 2005 20:34 (twenty years ago)

The waving kitten was awesome.

― Are You Nomar? (miloaukerman), Tuesday, 15 November 2005 20:38 (twenty years ago)

"invisible godzilla" JW's new nic?

― Thermo Thinwall (Thermo Thinwall), Tuesday, 15 November 2005 20:39 (twenty years ago)

Bah. I turned off images in my ILX settings and browser prefs but some threads still don't display. And it was really the morning shut-down that got my goat. Course, when I got back from the dentist with a half-paralyzed face the boards were back to normal, there's a small consolation.

― Laurel (Laurel), Tuesday, 15 November 2005 20:39 (twenty years ago)

I slept through it all. Gorbless the time difference.

― Trayce (trayce), Tuesday, 15 November 2005 20:41 (twenty years ago)

― guygax!, Tuesday, 15 November 2005 20:41 (twenty years ago)

Ha ha Trayce, I'm totally with you there.

― Ste (Fuzzy), Tuesday, 15 November 2005 20:41 (twenty years ago)

"invisible godzilla" JW's new nic?

Nah. That gives him too much credit, innit.

― Trayce (trayce), Tuesday, 15 November 2005 20:47 (twenty years ago)

[oops, i over deleted there, sorry to a couple of users]

― Britain's Obtusest Shepherd (Alan), Tuesday, 15 November 2005 21:06 (twenty years ago)

Does anyone remember that episode of the Twilight Zone? You know, the one where the prepubescent boy had, like, superpowers, and everyone had to dance around him really carefully and cater to the whims of this petulant little boy, because otherwise, he'd freak out and destroy the universe?

― Lady Totteringby-Gently (kate), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 08:57 (twenty years ago)

― gear (gear), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 08:59 (twenty years ago)

i mean yes! my apologies : o

― gear (gear), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 08:59 (twenty years ago)

Wasnt that a Simpsons episode?

― Trayce (trayce), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 09:03 (twenty years ago)

So is there any info on who actually did this? Everyone's blaming Jon, but I'd like to hear Alan confirm/dispute this.

― Tuomas (Tuomas), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 09:03 (twenty years ago)

It was originally a Twilight Zone episode, that the Simpsons did a riff on.

― Lady Totteringby-Gently (kate), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 09:05 (twenty years ago)

As far as I can tell, this is what happened: Kim abused Noodles ILX coding account to fuck about with admin statuses, which resulted in Jon losing his admin rights on the Noise Board. Jon understandably went apeshit and then went CSS crazy when his complaints were not taken seriously. Alan shut down the board because he thought something odd was going on.

― RickyT (RickyT), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 09:13 (twenty years ago)

So basically, what happened, was, some drunk Canadians decided to give JW a taste of his own medicine with regard to f*cking about with ILX on a technical level and mucking it up for other people. (I believe the technical term is "pwnage".) The admins, understandably (after having to clean up his little messes and his tantrums for so long) were a bit slow to put things back the way they were, and JW threw such a freaking temper tantrum that ILX had to be shut down for several hours.

Glad we've got that sorted, then!

― Lady Totteringby-Gently (kate), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 09:20 (twenty years ago)

Can someone just build in an Exalt/Smite function like the Ilx0r Temporary board has?

― robster (robster), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 09:29 (twenty years ago)

i think all we need are lots of buffy boxsets, and we'll all be happy.

― ken c (ken c), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 09:55 (twenty years ago)

Jon W:

A dick in the past, and also a dick recently. Likely a big fucking veiny Atari dick in the very near future. I'm kinda with people who think there's been too big a deal made out of this. The guy doesn't much like or respect these boards the way the rest of us do, and he never did.

― Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 10:08 (twenty years ago)

i think you need to declare an interest really, k-rock.

― Theorry Henry (Enrique), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 10:09 (twenty years ago)

ken's right. i only have the first two buffy boxsets. :-( need more buffy. NOW.

― Nathalie is in Da Base II Dark (stevie nixed), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 10:11 (twenty years ago)

Kate, Kenan, Jon and all the others should just fucking drop it frankly. If yesterday proved anything its that the 98% of ILX is using the boards perfectly well and resents a tiny minority fighting out stupid, petty, irrelevant little feuds that are ruining it in such a big way.

― Matt DC (Matt DC), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 10:27 (twenty years ago)

I think Noodles should have his admin priveleges revoked as well. The reason Graham had the code taken away from him was because he wasn't trusted by a sizeable proportion of users not to abuse it. Same goes here, I reckon.

― Matt DC (Matt DC), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 10:30 (twenty years ago)

OK, serious question - if someone decides to target you for repeated "excessive and ugly" (to quote a mod) harrassment, what are you supposed to do?

Ignoring it doesn't work, asking for moderation only serves to make it worse.

And quite frankly, if you're going to remove Noodles' priviledges, you should give JW an ASBO while you're at it, for endless abuse of moderator priviledges.

― Lady Totteringby-Gently (kate), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 10:32 (twenty years ago)

Don't answer that question, it was rhetorical. Just frustrated.

― Lady Totteringby-Gently (kate), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 10:34 (twenty years ago)

i agree with matt dc. kate, no one has had as many fights with as many people on this board as you have.

― howell huser (chaki), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 10:36 (twenty years ago)

And you, Chaki, speaking as someone that has stalked and harrassed a couple of other users so badly that they've left the board. I really value your opinion in these matters.

― Lady Totteringby-Gently (kate), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 10:39 (twenty years ago)

JW has never been a mod on ILE and as such had no privileges to abuse wrt this board.

― RickyT (RickyT), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 10:39 (twenty years ago)

so....[really struggles to think about this].. let me get this straight....Some guy (who's an administrator on another board) breaks ILE by being a complete knob-hand and CSSing penis pictures all over threads... because some other administrator dudes (who were drunk?) deleted his admin rights? Two questions:

Why do we have so many, obviously mental, administrators on ilx?

and

Are these guys, like, twelve years old?

― Ste (Fuzzy), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 10:45 (twenty years ago)

mdc otm. that said, i'm not really convinced that jw's reaction was appropriate, either.

― toby (tsg20), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 10:54 (twenty years ago)

No, Jon's reaction was supremely dickish as well but the majority of Noise Board posters hadn't done anything wrong. In any case, having mods or site admins with very vocal personal vendettas against other posters is asking for trouble.

― Matt DC (Matt DC), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 10:59 (twenty years ago)

Chaki & Toby OTM. Kate, you are very repetitive and the gloating is tiresome.

― Kv_nol (Kv_nol), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 11:02 (twenty years ago)

You know what's repetitive and tiresome?

― Lady Totteringby-Gently (kate), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 11:07 (twenty years ago)

Yes Kate, we get the idea. What do you propose we do about it?

― Matt DC (Matt DC), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 11:09 (twenty years ago)

Don't say 'ban him' because you know it's next-to-impossible.

― Matt DC (Matt DC), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 11:09 (twenty years ago)

I'm starting to think that the oft-derided killfiles would be a really good idea.

― Lady Totteringby-Gently (kate), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 11:10 (twenty years ago)

Ah yes, drastic measures in the hands of fools. Good plan.

― Kv_nol (Kv_nol), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 11:13 (twenty years ago)

The post Kate linked to surely falls under the category "nuisance posts", and personally, I'd be a lot happier, and I think ILE would be a little bit more enjoyable if ALL nuisance posts were just deleted.

― Pashmina (Pashmina), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 11:13 (twenty years ago)

If you're perpetually bothered by the same poster, rather than every single user on the board having to adjust their settings and turn images off or whatever, give users the ability to screen out persistent nuisances.

And yes, I include myself in that category. Imagine an ILX where JW didn't ever have to look at my posts (if, indeed, he could be persuaded to use such a thing) since my very existence clearly offends him so much.

It would have stopped our B*cky L*c*s problem in a heartbeat, as well. Ditto C*l*m.

― Lady Totteringby-Gently (kate), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 11:14 (twenty years ago)

fwiw i do think the abuse which has been doled out to Kate has been deeply unpleasant, past incidents alluded to I know too little about to comment on, I also get the impression that she's been desperately trying to avoid feuding with anyone recently. Also, this tack detracts from the basic fact that that shit that was pulled yesterday is not excusable under any circumstances, any dilution of the issue is pointless and diversionary.

Y'know, nearly all of the small boards trundle along quite nicely without anyone feeling the need to wave their electronic dicks, Ste, by inference OTFM, a bunch of people need to grow the fuck up.

x-post Kate, in all honesty I don't think that any of your responses are going to be given fair consideration, given the feud history, I'd leave it, if I were you.

― Matt (Matt), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 11:15 (twenty years ago)

ah, long have i fantasised about the mythical 'block posts by x' function.

― Sororah T Massacre (blueski), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 11:17 (twenty years ago)

What if we just ask Jon nicely to stop posting?

― Markelby (Mark C), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 11:17 (twenty years ago)

so everyone is pissing everyone else, and everyone is behaving like a 12 yr old, adn the only way to get any real information, ask questions, open discourse, is to do something i find unconcisaboule (sp)

someone get it under control fucking now...
ban kim, ban zac, ban john, nuke the entire thing (as tom suggests doing in poptismists--im glad im part of that insider circle), just do something so we are responsible again--though with the balkanazation of the miniboards and the ever presence of silly noize assholes, i can not imagine that this will ever happen again.

fuck y'all

― anthony easton (anthony), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 11:21 (twenty years ago)

Why Stevem, whatever could you mean? ;)

― Kv_nol (Kv_nol), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 11:23 (twenty years ago)

"Please do not respond to any b*c*y L*c*s threads, (b*c*y cannot see this message)"

Good times

― Ste (Fuzzy), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 11:24 (twenty years ago)

I went back and read the old killfiles argument thread (and man, what an argumentative hellhole that was, and yeah, I include myself in that inditement) and realised that we are dealing with a different issue here.

The difference is, that many of our former trolls were only really *saying* (writing) things that were annoying or devisive or antagonising. JW's shctick is an attack on the very fabric of ILX - destroying threads or rendering them unreadable, locking up computers, other destructive stuff. That's what makes this qualitatively different.

I agree that dealing with the former requires self control (even the patience of a saint, which I certainly don't have). But dealing with the latter is a programming issue and should probably dealt with on that level.

― Lady Totteringby-Gently (kate), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 11:41 (twenty years ago)

how can it be dealt with though? anyone willing to spam the boards beyond just text can post anon and from dynamic/multiple IPs, and they do.

― Sororah T Massacre (blueski), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 11:58 (twenty years ago)

Perhaps it's a case of locks keeping honest people honest--put just enough of an obstacle in the way to prevent the 'casual offender'.

― tissp! (the impossible shortest specia), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 11:59 (twenty years ago)

"I sent the club a wire stating, PLEASE ACCEPT MY RESIGNATION. I DON'T WANT TO BELONG TO ANY CLUB THAT WILL ACCEPT ME AS A MEMBER."

--Groucho Marx (pre-internet troll)

― m coleman (lovebug starski), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 12:02 (twenty years ago)

Give people the ability to ban JW on a thread by thread level (where you already have the ability to ban anon posters anyway) would strip out 90% of that nuisance factor.

He seems to have the attitude that anything which he is not expressly prohibited from doing is fair game to do. So put the prohibitions in.

― Lady Totteringby-Gently (kate), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 12:04 (twenty years ago)

i don't know about computers, but cdn't he easily use a proxy server to get round that?

― Theorry Henry (Enrique), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 12:05 (twenty years ago)

I mean, you can say that's my individual feud, or my individual prejudice, but honestly - has anyone else ever actually caused ILX to go offline for several hours, except Graham? (Who, IIRC, was banned for it?)

― Lady Totteringby-Gently (kate), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 12:05 (twenty years ago)

x-post. No. Include it in the "ban unregistered users".

Yeah, I know, he could just go and create a new user account, but it might just make it that extra bit more difficult and control the more immediate of his impulses.

― Lady Totteringby-Gently (kate), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 12:07 (twenty years ago)

Would it be more effective if someone phoned him and told him to stop?

― Matt #2 (Matt #2), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 12:08 (twenty years ago)

In the middle of the night. With one of those voice-changer things.

― tissp! (the impossible shortest specia), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 12:17 (twenty years ago)

Haha!

― Tuomas (Tuomas), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 12:22 (twenty years ago)

Give people the ability to ban JW on a thread by thread level (where you already have the ability to ban anon posters anyway) would strip out 90% of that nuisance factor.

There's enough poxy fulage as it is without this increasing it tenfold though. So ILX would become even more unuseable.

― Sororah T Massacre (blueski), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 12:27 (twenty years ago)

It would take Jon about 30-seconds to get through a thread-by-thread ban.

THE ONLY WAY you or anyone else is going to sort this out is by taking proactive steps to diffuse the situation rather than banging on about it in such an incendiary manner.

― Matt DC (Matt DC), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 12:29 (twenty years ago)

Actually calling him might not be such a terrible idea. Perhaps it would be better to ask him IRL. Unless he carries flash cards with atari willies around with him or can send them as texts or similar.

Also the two parties involved should have admin powers removed. IMHO it's been made pretty clear that they aren't able to handle t3h power.

As to banning on individual threads, well that's just silly now isn't it?

Matt OTM.

― Kv_nol (Kv_nol), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 12:34 (twenty years ago)

(Jon doesn't have admin powers on anything other than the Noise Board and never has, btw)

― Matt DC (Matt DC), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 12:35 (twenty years ago)

Ok, DC, YOU TELL ME what I can do to get JW to ~~leave me the fuck alone~~ diffuse the situation.

And don't say "ignore him" because I tried that, and it didn't work. He just kept at it until my threads became unusable. And funnily enough, the two times I've asked him to be banned from individual threads, the abuse stopped.

JW deserves to be treated like an adult the day he starts acting like an adult. Because he doesn't just take it out on me, he takes it out on all of ILX.

― Lady Totteringby-Gently (kate), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 12:36 (twenty years ago)

Are these spoiler tactics being used now, or is it just my imagination? I can't tell any more. I mean the World Cup thread and "I hate the English" threads, specifically.

― PJ Miller (PJ Miller 68), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 12:38 (twenty years ago)

So why did we impliment the registered users only rule? ;-)

Personally I don't really care. I only feel bad for the moderators because they had to work at restoring ILX. I also realize this is a community and it shouldn't be attacked as it was. I do realize that the way he attacks Kate's threads must be infuriating for Kate and it must be difficult for her. But at the end of the day I just shrug my shoulders. :-)

― Nathalie is in Da Base II Dark (stevie nixed), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 12:42 (twenty years ago)

All of ILX? A bit of an overreaction surely? I dunno, I find him pretty ignorable really. The only times I see him really bad are whenever you react and you always do. Adult comment a little pot/kettle moment I think.

What happened to your board? I am only asking, this is not meant as a "Go back to where you came from" type-comment.

Matt, I was aware of that. I didn't really think about the noize board which of course he's fully entitled to run riot on. It's kind of taken as read that it's the playground area.

― Kv_nol (Kv_nol), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 12:47 (twenty years ago)

i think Jon vs Noodles is the more important and bigger problem at hand right now, as that's what prompted the mass thread spamming and resulting outage.

― Sororah T Massacre (blueski), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 12:48 (twenty years ago)

Stevem is right I think. the fact that things were being changed around etc is a major deal.

(How was housewarming by the way?)

― Kv_nol (Kv_nol), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 12:52 (twenty years ago)

why not just make ILX text only, and any codes are stripped, images linked must be jpg or gif.

and that maximum length of posts are 1000 characters. repeated messages not allowed. maximum of so many posts per minute.

sorted.

― ken c (ken c), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 12:53 (twenty years ago)

no more than one exclamation mark to be used per remark.

no typing 'xpost' unless it's really unclear as to who/what you're referring to.

no playing shitty mp3s on your shitty phone at the back there.

― Sororah T Massacre (blueski), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 12:56 (twenty years ago)

For what it's worth, ever since I found out about this thread, I've been rather wary of posting any sort of personal information here. Even if you yourself aren't harassed or laughed at, I think knowing that people do it to someone else makes this place more ugly. And yes, I know the standard argument is, "it's just a message board, don't take it seriously and don't talk about personal things there". Well, I've done exactly that, but I feel it's a loss. I don't find this place as interesting as before, when intimate discussions weren't laughed at, which is why I haven't posted that much for the last couple of months.

― Tuomas (Tuomas), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 12:56 (twenty years ago)

(kind kv_nol it was very warm, thanks for asking)

― Sororah T Massacre (blueski), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 12:57 (twenty years ago)

kv_nol if you are actually interested, then please email me off board, as rehashing the entire catalogue is not really something that should be done here.

― Lady Totteringby-Gently (kate), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 12:57 (twenty years ago)

b/c certain threads need to have answers more then 1k charachters--anything else wrt the stripping works for me

― anthony easton (anthony), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 13:01 (twenty years ago)

What do you suggest we do about that, Tuomas?

(I don't know why I'm even asking.)

― Tom (Groke), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 13:02 (twenty years ago)

(Note the veteran ILXor in good-standing who contributed to that anti-Tuomas thread.)

― Rockist_Scientist (RSLaRue), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 13:04 (twenty years ago)

Hmm, I didn't mean to imply that the thread I linked to alone (I know it has positive comments too) has made me alter my views about this place, it's just part of a general attitude change that ILX has gone through during the time I've been here.

(x-post)

Tom, I don't suggest doing anything. Changes that big can't be forced, they'll happen if they're bound to happen. I was just expressing my sadness for what has happened.

― Tuomas (Tuomas), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 13:06 (twenty years ago)

Crikey. That's just freaking bizarre, Tuomas. :-(

― Lady Totteringby-Gently (kate), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 13:08 (twenty years ago)

no posting unfunny posts on the excelsior thread (posts will be graded by an automated funny indexing system)

― ken c (ken c), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 13:10 (twenty years ago)

xpost obv.

― ken c (ken c), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 13:11 (twenty years ago)

Crikey. That's just freaking bizarre, Tuomas. :-(

I think it's kinda bemusing, actually. And I'm thankful for the nice thoughts put in that thread. But it has made me ask myself the question, "I have lots of friends, why do I need to talk about personal stuff on a message board?". I don't know the answer to that, all I know is that I liked doing it here in the past, but at the moment, not anymore.

― Tuomas (Tuomas), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 13:12 (twenty years ago)

b/c certain threads need to have answers more then 1k charachters--anything else wrt the stripping works for me

how about any posts bigger than 1k will be replaced by a link, showing the first 1k characters, that opens a popup when clicked showing the entire post? this should be really easy to code.

― ken c (ken c), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 13:21 (twenty years ago)

that makes sense
ilx has been good in some ways, but i think that it has centralised my deep lonlieness, esp. being here, in a small town and sick, i wish i could give it up...

― anthony easton (anthony), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 13:26 (twenty years ago)

Why not get even more advanced, and implement some kind of crapflooding filter?

― tissp! (the impossible shortest specia), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 13:28 (twenty years ago)

i dunno which ilx vet of good standing is being ref'd to. pash? blount? ally?

― Theorry Henry (Enrique), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 13:29 (twenty years ago)

But, based on what Alan has said above, it wasn't Jon that was the problem (thouh a cooling out period abviously did some good), so much as trying to figure out what happened in the first place.

― Andrew Farrell (afarrell), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 13:31 (twenty years ago)

xpost obv.

ARRRRRGRGH STOP THE MADNESS

― Sororah T Massacre (blueski), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 13:33 (twenty years ago)

'TEH' MADNESS

― Theorry Henry (Enrique), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 13:34 (twenty years ago)

(Good to hear. Sorry I missed it.)

Tuomas, it is a good thing to learn but a nasty way to have to learn it.

Kate, I'm interested if it's interesting. Or shiny. Go on, give us a synopsis.

Ken that sounds a bit boring with the popups but I do think the image linking is a good idea. It's much wiser and I stand less risk of getting fired!

― Kv_nol (Kv_nol), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 13:34 (twenty years ago)

turn off images?

― Theorry Henry (Enrique), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 13:35 (twenty years ago)

i wonder who tipped Tuomas off about that thread? is there a mole on the Noise Board? intreegyoo!

unless he found it himself by lurking on the Noise Board, which would an odd thing to do if you dislike Noise mentality so much. no disrespect to T here (not on my part at least).

― Sororah T Massacre (blueski), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 13:35 (twenty years ago)

it's not that surprising is it, that tuomas found his thread, on the noise board?

― Theorry Henry (Enrique), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 13:39 (twenty years ago)

I'm not lurking on the Noise board, but I checked it out one day (ever since someone linked that "Noise board enemy" list to ILE, I've been sorta interested to hear what's been talked about people behind their backs), and saw a thread titled "Tuomas fan club thread". Kinda hard to miss.

(x-post)

― Tuomas (Tuomas), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 13:40 (twenty years ago)

he's just there, why don't you ask him?

― Ste (Fuzzy), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 13:41 (twenty years ago)

haha xpost obv

actually my post sounded a bit snipey. it wasn't meant to be. soz

― Ste (Fuzzy), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 13:42 (twenty years ago)

IF THE XPOST WAS OBVIOUS WHY WRITE 'XPOST OBV'?

eh, it doesn't wind me up that much really, honest...

I think people might be happier if they don't read their own bad press, like the football managers, celebrities. Though I guess knowing it goes on regardless must be quite tough. The price of fame eh?

― Sororah T Massacre (blueski), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 13:45 (twenty years ago)

"I don't want to be infamous, I want to be...fuhmus."

― Sororah T Massacre (blueski), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 13:46 (twenty years ago)

i still don't understand the noize board.

― g-clit (g-kit), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 13:50 (twenty years ago)

it is a message board that people post messages on.

― Sororah T Massacre (blueski), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 13:51 (twenty years ago)

Please don't read too much into that one thread, as I said, people who I like - such as Pashmina - posted positive things there too. I just used it as an example of a more general change in ILX.

― Tuomas (Tuomas), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 13:52 (twenty years ago)

is this the part where somebody says "nu ilx" and i say "i don't understand the concept of nu ilx either" and then everybody just kinda coughs and notices something out the window and nobody actually tries to explain?

― g-clit (g-kit), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 13:54 (twenty years ago)

nu-ILX is a beermat!

― Sororah T Massacre (blueski), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 13:56 (twenty years ago)

i've been here 2 and almost a half years, ie about half teh life of ile. there were more 'has ile gone downhill?' threads back then, but on the other hand it's notable that some great posters have left -- perhaps that was there answer. ile has become more like the noise board, but except for yesterday, it doesn't really change the majority of ile action, and i don't think the noise element is any more typical of the board than, say, oh, to pluck a community out of the air, at random, TITTWIS.

― Theorry Henry (Enrique), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 13:57 (twenty years ago)

that would be a 'yes', then.

― g-clit (g-kit), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 13:58 (twenty years ago)

tuomas it was impressive that you went on that thread and engaged the haters rather than whine about it on the moderators request.

I feel like an asshole for posting on it, apart from everything else that happened yesterday. It was meant as a teasing poke in the ribs not a personal attack though I realize now that's a meaningless distinction. I found your remarks about eschewing television in favor of "light reading" to be pretentious and condescending but certainly no less so than 50% of my posts on ILM. So I'm a jerk AND a hypocrite. Like to think I'd laugh at a Lovebug's Pedantic Greatest Hits thread but who knows. Anyway I apologize. Seeing than I'm a peripheral ILXOR at best I've got no business driving you (or anyone else) away from the boards.

A parting observation: Jon W is an extreme manifestation of what seems to me a fairly common trait on ILX. Aggressively caustic humor and biting wit coupled w/a very thin skin. Me too.

peace

― m coleman (lovebug starski), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 14:03 (twenty years ago)

it wasn't Jon that was the problem

Does anyone really believe this is the case? Some otherwise rational people seem to think that vilifying the people who get most upset (and most abused) is somehow more constructive than dealing with the root cause - if the problem wasn't there in the first place, everything would be bunnies and candyfloss.

― Markelby (Mark C), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 14:05 (twenty years ago)

i like ice cream

― Rob Bolton (Rob Bolton), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 14:05 (twenty years ago)

it's not that simple, mark.

― Theorry Henry (Enrique), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 14:08 (twenty years ago)

Jon is 50% of the problem re what this thread is about.

― Sororah T Massacre (blueski), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 14:08 (twenty years ago)

Lovebug, it's alright, I didn't find you posting my comment offensive, just kinda mystifying. I didn't mean to sound condescending with the "light reading" comment, I was just trying to explain what's my alternative to TV when I don't want too use brains too much. I didn't mean to offend TV watchers, I was just trying to give examples of what you can do if you don't want to watch the telly.

― Tuomas (Tuomas), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 14:09 (twenty years ago)

I was just trying to give examples of what you can do if you don't want to watch the telly.

thx for advice

― Theorry Henry (Enrique), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 14:11 (twenty years ago)

i don't see the 'biting wit' part.

― g-clit (g-kit), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 14:12 (twenty years ago)

I was just trying to explain what's my alternative to TV when I don't want too use brains too much

You're assuming people don't use their brains when watching telly. People process information. I still can't get past that. Of course there's light entertainment - such as reality shows and the like - but you can still use your brains/analyze/... The biggest problem is that people aren't taught how to watch telly. There should be a course in high school on how to watch telly. (Something I had in high school.)

― Nathalie is in Da Base II Dark (stevie nixed), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 14:15 (twenty years ago)

(Sorry that was off-topic.)

― Nathalie is in Da Base II Dark (stevie nixed), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 14:15 (twenty years ago)

i don't see the 'biting wit' part

er yeah this was my reaction too.

― emsk ( emsk), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 14:21 (twenty years ago)

The entire life cycle of ILX has been fascinating to watch; I wonder if this is exactly how the Usenet community felt as they got closer and closer to Eternal September.

― Dan (Civil Discussion -> In-Jokey, Cliquey Discussion -> Isolated Subtopic Discu, Wednesday, 16 November 2005 14:21 (twenty years ago)

Dan largely OTM: positive energy on the Interweb is nomadic.

― Tom (Groke), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 14:23 (twenty years ago)

i don't see the 'biting wit' part

bad choice of phrase. what I meant: lots of people here who dish out rapidfire cutting remarks are remarkably quick to take offense.

― m coleman (lovebug starski), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 14:29 (twenty years ago)

Dan OTM. ILX is drowning in its own crap at the moment (spam, trolls, parody threads)... the focus is now on when Oct. 1st will happen (if ever).

― tissp! (the impossible shortest specia), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 14:31 (twenty years ago)

(ILE != ILX)

― Tom (Groke), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 14:33 (twenty years ago)

(Yes, sorry, I did mean ILE there)

― tissp! (the impossible shortest specia), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 14:33 (twenty years ago)

(spam, trolls, parody threads)

these are always always here!!

― lauren (laurenp), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 14:34 (twenty years ago)

But my point is that the number of these has increased to an extent that the signal to noise ratio has become unbearable.

― tissp! (the impossible shortest specia), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 14:35 (twenty years ago)

(Well, not unbearable, of course--otherwise I wouldn't still be here. But you catch my drift)

― tissp! (the impossible shortest specia), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 14:36 (twenty years ago)

the signal dudes board never took off

― Theorry Henry (Enrique), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 14:37 (twenty years ago)

This happens every so often. Maybe we should just switch it all off for a couple of weeks like we did last time.

― Matt DC (Matt DC), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 14:37 (twenty years ago)

is this an exercise in saying 'nu ilx' without saying it?

― g-clit (g-kit), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 14:37 (twenty years ago)

I think I would be for a downtime, assuming that this time could be used to bulletproof the code a bit more (not that I wish to place even more of a burden on Alan).

― tissp! (the impossible shortest specia), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 14:38 (twenty years ago)

I think 'nu-ilx' is simply a way of referring to plain old ILX when you aren't happy with what's on the new answers page.

― tissp! (the impossible shortest specia), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 14:39 (twenty years ago)

No switchoff planned. If you're annoyed, just go somewhere else where you can have better fun. Code stuff is being worked on as best it can be.

― Tom (Groke), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 14:39 (twenty years ago)

Everybody's overlooking Rob here. His comment seems to be the most imporant on this thread.

― Miss Misery (thatgirl), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 14:40 (twenty years ago)

no, not really. for example, i think parody threads are by and large moronic but i don't click on them and the fact that they're on the new answers page doesn't offend me.

xpost to tissp!

tom otm.

― lauren (laurenp), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 14:40 (twenty years ago)

That wasn't a demand, Tom, just a response to Matt.

― tissp! (the impossible shortest specia), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 14:40 (twenty years ago)

where was the thread about noise board talking shit about us on ilx?
and can someone tell me who is on the noise board, who mods it, what its purpose is, etc?
and can someone explain the sept 1 thing?

― anthony easton (anthony), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 14:42 (twenty years ago)

some of us nu-ilx0rz have feelings too.

― Theorry Henry (Enrique), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 14:42 (twenty years ago)

'nu ilx' = ILX when it suddenly became more than just refugees from USENET music group, Sinister and Momus - say from around Summer 2002. Not that it's actually important.

There seem to be less parody threads lately than there were a couple of months ago, though I suppose the volume could increase at any moment.

There really is nothing that can be done about any of this btw. More mods might get recruited and it might be made clearer who does what and who can do what and when, but none of that will stop spam, trolling, fighting, parody threads and other 'noise'.

― Sororah T Massacre (blueski), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 14:42 (twenty years ago)

We need a new ILX! With blackjack! And hookers!

― tissp! (the impossible shortest specia), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 14:43 (twenty years ago)

The only way to stop this is to charge a subscription fee and ban on any pretext. Never gonna happen, so get used to the wild west kapow kapow.

― On one hand I've got myself to blame (Lynskey), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 14:44 (twenty years ago)

if only there was some way the Noise Board could be accessed so people could find it who was on it, who mods it, it's purpose etc.

i wasn't quite sure about the Sep 1st/Oct 1st thing either mind you.

― Sororah T Massacre (blueski), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 14:44 (twenty years ago)

every time i see "nu ilx" i read it as "before you morons arrived and ruined everything".

― g-clit (g-kit), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 14:45 (twenty years ago)

Do you mean the Eternal September thing?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eternal_September

― tissp! (the impossible shortest specia), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 14:45 (twenty years ago)

Anthony:

- Can't remember.

- Find out by reading it. Jon W is chief mod there.

- September was the month in which people arriving at university would get internet access for the first time and go on USENET: the people already on USENET used to bitch about this because the newcomers didn't know local etiquette. 90% of their specific objections were anti-newbie snobbery and the problem with ILX is slightly different, but Dan still has a point.

― Tom (Groke), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 14:47 (twenty years ago)

g-kit yes that is pretty much what it means.

― Sororah T Massacre (blueski), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 14:48 (twenty years ago)

The Eternal September thing was coined by a good friend of mine and a past ILXor.

― Jdubz (ex machina), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 14:48 (twenty years ago)

(many x-posts)

i've been on ILX for, what, a year and a bit now; ILE for about half (maybe less) of that. like every community, the boards are evolving and changing all the time. that's one of the great things about them.

you can't start policing ILX or making demands of individual posters. it isn't feasible, let alone desirable. sure, it'd be nice if people who were caught up in individual feuds had enough respect for the rest of us not to spread them to large parts of ILE, but ... that's wishful thinking. short of self-defeating draconian action ("ban him!" "no, ban him!" "ban her too!" "ban all of us!"), all we can do is accept that sometimes people are going to be a little flakey and do annoying things. i don't see any more CSS horror today; to all intents and purposes ILE (and ILX) is functioning normally. move along, people, there's nothing to see here that wasn't there on monday.

there are always going to be individual battles and feuds. these, in fairness, are matters for the individuals involved. it's not up to the mods or coders to nanny everybody along. if you really don't like something here, stop posting! nobody's forcing you to.

and, as the exchange between tuomas and lovebug above proves, people are more than capable of overcoming their differences and moving towards some kind of mutual understanding.

anyway. that's my take on it. i can't force anyone to listen :)

― grimly fiendish (grimlord), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 14:48 (twenty years ago)

*peels off Jdubz mask to reveal Suzy*

― Sororah T Massacre (blueski), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 14:50 (twenty years ago)

Tuomas, I think the noise board secretly likes you!

FWIW, there is a big distinction between the behavior expected from "site admin" and "tiny subboard administrator".

(I feel bad for the headache I caused Alan.)

― Jdubz (ex machina), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 14:50 (twenty years ago)

I feel bad for not helping Alan delete all your crap. But I'm not sure it even bothered me that much personally - the ol' 'at last, now I can do some work' thing kicked in before the anger ever could.

― Sororah T Massacre (blueski), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 14:55 (twenty years ago)

At least Alan remembered to use SQL. :D

― Jdubz (ex machina), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 14:56 (twenty years ago)

What's Eternal Spetember?

― Baaderonixx ménage ses forces dans l'attente du Grand Soir (baaderonixx), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 14:58 (twenty years ago)

xxxxxxxxpost

― Baaderonixx ménage ses forces dans l'attente du Grand Soir (baaderonixx), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 14:58 (twenty years ago)

like Red October, but different.

― g-clit (g-kit), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 14:59 (twenty years ago)

On ILX it's more like the eternal 2pm GMT.

― Lady Totteringby-Gently (kate), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 14:59 (twenty years ago)

multi x post

grimly summed up everything I wanted to say but was too pissed/thirsty to bother.

― Le Marquis de Salade (noodle vague), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 15:01 (twenty years ago)

mmmmm, pissed.

― grimly fiendish (grimlord), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 15:02 (twenty years ago)

Hey, it's another Shout for the Moderator thread : )

― Yawn (Wintermute), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 15:02 (twenty years ago)

(that's meant to be a homer impression. i don't think it worked. fuck.)

xpost

― grimly fiendish (grimlord), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 15:02 (twenty years ago)

where was the thread about noise board talking shit about us on ilx?

FALSE GRAILS

and can someone tell me who is on the noise board,

http://thinnode.tripod.com/birthday2003/DSCN2814.JPG

who mods it,

http://home.highway.ne.jp/i1003/Chuck%20E%20Cheese.jpg

what its purpose is, etc?

http://promotions.cecentertainment.com/images/50free_July2003.gif

― Jdubz (ex machina), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 15:03 (twenty years ago)

I got it. Cmon, all mmmmmms = Homer forever, now.

― Le Marquis de Salade (noodle vague), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 15:04 (twenty years ago)

On ILX it's more like the eternal 2pm GMT.

Posts like this don't exactly help you engender much sympathy, Kate.

― KSTFUNS (Ex Leon), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 15:04 (twenty years ago)

i don't get it.

― g-clit (g-kit), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 15:08 (twenty years ago)

They don't call it Greenwich "MEAN" time for nothing, folks :D

― Jdubz (ex machina), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 15:16 (twenty years ago)

http://www.billrotelladrumbeatings.com/rimshot.gif

― grimly fiendish (grimlord), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 15:19 (twenty years ago)

When I had a job, I used to nod off around 2pm.

― Le Marquis de Salade (noodle vague), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 15:19 (twenty years ago)

2pm gmt is like 10am est, so that would be when the americans charge in with their uncouth barbarisms.

― lauren (laurenp), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 15:21 (twenty years ago)

ha, i get it now. hmm.

― Sororah T Massacre (blueski), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 15:22 (twenty years ago)

xpost: what, like nylons and marlboros?

― grimly fiendish (grimlord), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 15:23 (twenty years ago)

i still don't get it.

― g-clit (g-kit), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 15:24 (twenty years ago)

x-post -- And me.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 15:24 (twenty years ago)

still confused about the thread that points out what the noize board thinks of us.
i cant actually read the noise board

― anthony easton (anthony), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 15:26 (twenty years ago)

you need a decoder ring.

― g-clit (g-kit), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 15:26 (twenty years ago)

"BE SURE TO DRINK YOUR OVALTINE."

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 15:27 (twenty years ago)

ned
shut up

― anthony easton (anthony), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 15:28 (twenty years ago)

[insert word
ovaltine
ovaltine
x 400000 times]

― ken c (ken c), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 15:32 (twenty years ago)

[insert
ovaltine.jpg
ovaltine.jpg
x 5000 times]

― ken c (ken c), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 15:32 (twenty years ago)

I still do not understand the concept at hand that an easily accessible, connected-to-ILX, often-linked-to-from-here board is a group of people "gossiping behind backs." Tuomas, please don't take the Tuomas fan club thread so seriously as you have been, first of all everyone who posted something "mean" there has said same to your face (or as to your face as it gets online) and secondly really it's just a joke, reposting particularly ridiculous posts. I don't really agree with the people posting less funny/more personal-story posts but eh, everyone learns their lesson on that eventually I guess. But seriously, no one meant that in any kind of vicious spirit and I apologize if your feelings got hurt by me reposting your salacious posts on the underwear thread.

Anyhow, this is all a bunch of horseshit.
A) Matt DC totally OTM throughout thread, especially wrt the Graham thing versus this.
B) How flipping hard is it to code in NO CSS? Hell, no images! I mean God and 3 people here alone know what is contained in this top secret code but quite a lot of other places seem to have figured out the secret of not allowing HTML and CSS in posts, what's the big deal? End of problem.
C) Kate and Jon, get a goddamn room.

xpost anthony the noize board isn't a fucking hive mind, there is no consensus "what the noize board thinks of us" opinion. The best you got is a couple people reposting particularly typical posts of well-known posters and making fun of their writing style and/or obsessive subject matters. ie no different from ILE, magic!

― Allyzay must fight Zolton herself. (allyzay), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 15:33 (twenty years ago)

[insert link to a thread called NED LIKES OVALTINE LOLLERZ]

― ken c (ken c), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 15:34 (twenty years ago)

i was going to write pretty much the same list that ally just did

especially point b) i mean, just turn off all codes from the board and it's all fine, innit.

― ken c (ken c), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 15:37 (twenty years ago)

Never actually had Ovaltine. Perhaps it is horrible.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 15:37 (twenty years ago)

I think ILX should be replaced with a telnet MUD.

― Jdubz (ex machina), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 15:39 (twenty years ago)

Ally, I haven't even mentioned Kate the Great on this thread until now. I think she is just upset that I am not "annoying" her.

― Jdubz (ex machina), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 15:42 (twenty years ago)

Alizée sur l'argent

― Baaderonixx ménage ses forces dans l'attente du Grand Soir (baaderonixx), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 15:43 (twenty years ago)

some steps to prevent people rendering a thread unreadable.
- compulsory sizing of img tags, anything bigger than 800x600 will have height and width attributes added (or replaced with link), as there's not really ever any need to have images that big in-line?

- no posts longer than [insert value] characters or with [so many] carriage returns, or, if they're so long, replace with link. (same reason)

- strip out style attributes from all tags, as you can add that to everything even bold and italic tags if i remember correctly (no more css)

- limit of [insert value here] consecutive messages from same person.

this should do it.

― ken c (ken c), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 15:43 (twenty years ago)

- compulsory sizing of img tags, anything bigger than 800x600 will have height and width attributes added (or replaced with link), as there's not really ever any need to have images that big in-line?

You have to be careful with this....

― Jdubz (ex machina), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 15:45 (twenty years ago)

tell me jon!

― ken c (ken c), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 15:47 (twenty years ago)

800x600?

more like 384x288

― Sororah T Massacre (blueski), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 15:48 (twenty years ago)

for anthony, the top ten threads currently on the noize board:
# funny thread: fall twee edition (101 new answers)
# HAPPY BERTHDAY BDD (24 new answers)
# THE COME SEE MY BAND PLAY THREAD (12 new answers)
# FRIDAY BROS............................................................ME + YOU = DRUNK (10 new answers)
# LET'S AGREE THAT WE'VE HAD ENOUGH (118 new answers)
# nurse with wound is eating a hole in my brain. (23 new answers)
# I hate myspace (2 new answers)
# AWESOME MC5 VIDEO HERE (13 new answers)
# NOVERMBRO 14TH COMMEMORATIVE ATARI PENIS PLATES (2 new answers)
# Baltimore (4 new answers)

Lots of shit talkin'. I wish people here would stop confusing Jon's occasional CSS freak out parades with the entirety of the noize board who basically do nothing besides talk about beer, weed, and things that go with that like video games and, like, steely dan.

But yeah, I mean it seems like the whole problem wrt yesterday would be solved by not letting people post codes.

xpost jon, I actually noticed that you hadn't posted much, I'm sorry, it's just frustration really. I wish you'd stop doing things like this cos the aftermath is so crap and overblown.

― Allyzay must fight Zolton herself. (allyzay), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 15:48 (twenty years ago)

Ken, I still don't see why we need to limit characters. No images, fine, but why limit entries? Consecutive could work but then how would a person bump their thread over time?

― Kv_nol (Kv_nol), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 15:50 (twenty years ago)

but that'd render your own threads useless!
photoLondon 2005 (ILX digital photo project)

make them small enough to appear on this thread (512x384 would be great as i'd love to compile them all at the end of the year)

― ken c (ken c), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 15:51 (twenty years ago)

NB talks about Steely Dan?!

― Baaderonixx ménage ses forces dans l'attente du Grand Soir (baaderonixx), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 15:53 (twenty years ago)

FWIW: I gave 24 hour warning of my shit tantrum!

― Jdubz (ex machina), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 15:54 (twenty years ago)

i know its not a hive mind...but it does seem like a large chunk of it, is intended to be a parodic gloss on ilx proper, and the rest of it seems to be something i cant quite grok--the silly random pictures, the strange syntax, the inside jokes, the casual homophobia, etc

― anthony easton (anthony), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 15:54 (twenty years ago)

Ken, I still don't see why we need to limit characters. No images, fine, but why limit entries? Consecutive could work but then how would a person bump their thread over time?

it's to stop people text-flooding kenan. there has been times before, when someone just posts what may as well have been the text from the whole of the bible (with irrelevant text, or just the same word repeated 500000 times like OVALTINE or soemthing), that renders a thread unreadable because the scroll bar gets fucked.

UK Watercooler Conversation 3: The Revenge of the Cookie

― ken c (ken c), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 15:55 (twenty years ago)

No, I still don't agree but that's because I don't think that the exception should decide for the majority.

Put very badly but I think it makes sense...

― Kv_nol (Kv_nol), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 15:57 (twenty years ago)

do the majority of people frequently post messages that are pages and pages long?

― ken c (ken c), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 16:02 (twenty years ago)

No, but I don't see why they should have any limits placed on what they want to say. It's a message board, not a text message.

For what it's worth: my name's not Kenan.

― Kv_nol (Kv_nol), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 16:04 (twenty years ago)

Ken, maybe you ought to buy a new computer if that "crashes" your browser!

― Jdubz (ex machina), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 16:04 (twenty years ago)

oh oops. sorry.

but that's why there's the popup idea. if you DO need to post a huge fuck-off message, you can still do it!!! it's like if you want to post a huge image, you still can!

it just doesn't cock everything else up.

― ken c (ken c), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 16:05 (twenty years ago)

jon maybe you need new glasses if you think i wrote it "crashes" my browser! :)

― ken c (ken c), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 16:06 (twenty years ago)

Maybe I need more coffee.

What is wrong with the scrollbars?!!?

― Jdubz (ex machina), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 16:08 (twenty years ago)

well the scroll bar functions as it should, but because 90% of the page is now suddenly the same line repeated (OMG BAN ME) or something

it just makes it a bitch to scroll down (you have to either grab the button in the middle which is by now tiny or click the down arrow and wait half a minute while it scrolls through 200 pages of OMG BAN ME)

and for what benefit?

it's just one less way that someone can deliberately disrupt a thread i guess.

― ken c (ken c), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 16:24 (twenty years ago)

matt dc otm re: noodles

― gear (gear), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 16:26 (twenty years ago)

I think it's hilarious that Kim started all of this. AND WHY HAVEN'T WE HEARD FROM HER?

― jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 16:27 (twenty years ago)

ken that thread has become somewhat redundant to me anyway since i've been up and away on flickr (plus i didn't have a camera for a while but now do again). point is i could cope fine without any big images, i've turned them off now anyway.

― Sororah T Massacre (blueski), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 16:27 (twenty years ago)

Kim's punishment is to have 400 people fawn over her on the WDYLL threads forever, ooh wait...

― Sororah T Massacre (blueski), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 16:28 (twenty years ago)

biting wit folks!

― Sororah T Massacre (blueski), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 16:29 (twenty years ago)

..so get used to the wild west kapow kapow.

this makes more sense than pretty much everything else on this thread

― Ste (Fuzzy), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 16:30 (twenty years ago)

FWIW: I gave 24 hour warning of my shit tantrum!

You did? To who?

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 16:30 (twenty years ago)

his mom.

― Sororah T Massacre (blueski), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 16:31 (twenty years ago)

Or you can click on the bar below the scrolling rectangle part of the widget.

― Jdubz (ex machina), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 16:32 (twenty years ago)

hehe steve i forgot that ilx revolved around you :)

― ken c (ken c), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 16:32 (twenty years ago)

We haven't heard from Kim because she does not have the internet at work. Plus she's not the one who was dropping css bombs all over ilx.

― Thermo Thinwall (Thermo Thinwall), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 16:33 (twenty years ago)

'Page Down'

― Theorry Henry (Enrique), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 16:34 (twenty years ago)

Or you can click on the bar below the scrolling rectangle part of the widget.

i just did that with UK Watercooler Conversation 3: The Revenge of the Cookie which was your good work, and it took 21 seconds!!

― ken c (ken c), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 16:35 (twenty years ago)

I don't think her supposed actions are any more defendible than Jon's.

― Allyzay must fight Zolton herself. (allyzay), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 16:35 (twenty years ago)

hehe steve i forgot that ilx revolved around you :)

but who does it revolve around NOW?

― Sororah T Massacre (blueski), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 16:35 (twenty years ago)

Kim apparently, given the free pass.

― Theorry Henry (Enrique), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 16:35 (twenty years ago)

and it took 21 seconds!

oh no...

― Sororah T Massacre (blueski), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 16:35 (twenty years ago)

still you steve!!!

ok theorry is winning so far, page down only took 16 seconds. i accidentally scrolled to far and had to scroll back up a bit, so 17 seconds in practical terms.

― ken c (ken c), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 16:36 (twenty years ago)

I didn't know Kim was an admin or anything...

― Tuomas (Tuomas), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 16:37 (twenty years ago)

and it took 21 seconds!
oh no...

well i'm glad somebody finds scrolling 21 seconds enjoyable :)

― ken c (ken c), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 16:37 (twenty years ago)

End works too.

― Theorry Henry (Enrique), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 16:38 (twenty years ago)

I think it's hilarious that Kim started all of this. AND WHY HAVEN'T WE HEARD FROM HER?

she posted on the PBS comment thing yesterday.

― grimly fiendish (grimlord), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 16:40 (twenty years ago)

was that actually her?

hi all. Jon is slow for not figuring this out on his own (even though my name is all over his admin log) but it's time to confess that the noise coup wasn't aided by Zac. it was me. thing is, i wz super jealous of Zac's tremendous boner for Jon, so i had to take out the competition. plus it was too funny not to do because, hello, it was the noise board - the land where banning for petty reasons is the done thing. also there were pints and other substances involved. plus he's going to be all "i don't even know who you are!" haha. anyway, such flagrant abuse of situation has never happened before, and never shall again. i have been sternly chastened and locked out of the offendingly security lax computer. so rest easy, ilx. you are safe from such a malignant threat as myself. sorry if it genuinely upset anyone.

p.s. i refuse to apologise for Jon being a hypocritical crybaby sore loser cock sack afterwards.

oh and if you don't believe this is the truth, you can ask Webster's mom.(who was also in Porky's) she always said, "if you can't beat 'em, pwn 'em".
Kim | 11.15.05 - 11:45 pm | #

― Theorry Henry (Enrique), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 16:41 (twenty years ago)

end works if that long post you're trying to skip is the last one. (but then if it was the last one then there's no need to scroll past it.)

you can press 'end' and then page up until you get back to where you started from, of course. which is obviously much better than just stopping people from posting retarded multiple lines of the same shit in the same place!!!!!!!!

― ken c (ken c), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 16:42 (twenty years ago)

I'm confused... Who's "Zac"?

― Tuomas (Tuomas), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 16:43 (twenty years ago)

OMG PRECEDENT! I have remembered that back in the very earliest ILE days I got my mod privs stripped by DG because I had let a drunken Starry Sarah change some category names into pirate speak.

― Tom (Groke), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 16:44 (twenty years ago)

Zac = Noodles

― jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 16:44 (twenty years ago)

Do they have "Saved By the Bell" over there?
xpost

― Thermo Thinwall (Thermo Thinwall), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 16:45 (twenty years ago)

Why am I supposed to keep track of the friendship patterns of Canadian douchebags who hate me? I guess I'm slow for not understanding this.

― Jdubz (ex machina), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 16:48 (twenty years ago)

because I had let a drunken Starry Sarah change some category names into pirate speak.

this should be encouraged more frankly.

― Sororah T Massacre (blueski), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 16:50 (twenty years ago)

lol irony

XPOST OBVIOUSLY

― Theorry Henry (Enrique), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 16:50 (twenty years ago)

oops that wasn't long enough :(

― ken c (ken c), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 16:51 (twenty years ago)

that's what she said

― Theorry Henry (Enrique), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 16:51 (twenty years ago)

Yeah, I mean, strictly speaking, what Kim did probably isn't defensible, but it's also way awesome and funny.

― jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 16:52 (twenty years ago)

because I had let a drunken Starry Sarah change some category names into pirate speak.

this should be encouraged more frankly.

OTM That should be rewarded (although if it happened today it prolly would be, i guess)!

xpost

― Thermo Thinwall (Thermo Thinwall), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 16:53 (twenty years ago)

Yeah, I mean, strictly speaking, what Kim did probably isn't defensible, but it's also way awesome and funny

actually i think she should be pistol whipped.

― alex in ken c (ken c), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 16:53 (twenty years ago)

I kinda think what Jon did was pretty funny, to be honest (granted I had the benefit of being away all day and not having to actually see most of it).

xpost hahahahaha

― Allyzay must fight Zolton herself. (allyzay), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 16:55 (twenty years ago)

Personally, I don't think that Kim did it, but is merely providing a consequence free method for Noodles to vent his boner.

― Jdubz (ex machina), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 16:57 (twenty years ago)

Actually, maybe the actual doing-of-it isn't necessarily awesome/funny, but I liked her confession. :D

― jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 16:57 (twenty years ago)

kim has bought me meals on 4 occasions, and shes hot. john is a cockfarmer, and not hot.

― anthony easton (anthony), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 16:58 (twenty years ago)

(I now basically think DG was right - you have to be able to trust the site admins not to let drunken mates piss about w/their logins)

― Tom (Groke), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 16:58 (twenty years ago)

i wonder if noodles usually thinks of kim as a consequence free method for venting his boner.

― ken c (ken c), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 16:58 (twenty years ago)

venting one's boner = a necessity in those cold Canadian winters

― jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 16:58 (twenty years ago)

anthony please spell Jon's name right.

― Allyzay must fight Zolton herself. (allyzay), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 17:00 (twenty years ago)

Anthony, are you mad the noise board dislikes you? Discus.

― Jdubz (ex machina), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 17:01 (twenty years ago)

Ally OTM on this, esp. the notion that it's gossiping behind backs, it's the same website! what in the world?

anthony, there's nothing to grok precisely, except maybe whatever ILX/ILM takes too seriously often gets made fun of there..

I totally missed what Jon did to the boards! damn. but was prob reading at work, so maybe it's for the best.

― dar1a g (daria g), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 17:04 (twenty years ago)

BTW - Is anyone else reading this thread title as "...the ILX outrage Nov15th"?

― Thermo Thinwall (Thermo Thinwall), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 17:04 (twenty years ago)

But my point is that the number of these has increased to an extent that the signal to noise ratio has become unbearable.
-- tissp

that's pretty funny.

this is like when people say "SNL isn't as good as it was in the heyday" and then rattle off 30 different years as being the best without remembering that NONE OF IT WAS EVER FUNNY, EVER.

― kyle (akmonday), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 17:04 (twenty years ago)

you have to be able to trust the site admins not to let drunken mates piss about w/their logins)

i've just had a flashback to Alan's own housewarming...

― Sororah T Massacre (blueski), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 17:06 (twenty years ago)

THAT WAS DIFFERENT.

― Tom (Groke), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 17:07 (twenty years ago)

but so nearly the same ;)

― Sororah T Massacre (blueski), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 17:08 (twenty years ago)

Somebody pwned Jon, he pwned ILX. Why doesn't everybody just move on and pretend they're above this shit?

― 'Twan (miccio), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 17:20 (twenty years ago)

Ok, I just got here. What'd I miss today?

― kingfish hobo juckie (kingfish 2.0), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 17:20 (twenty years ago)

WTF? Where'd the last few messages go?

― giboyeux (skowly), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 17:20 (twenty years ago)

somebody's still pwning ILX i guess

― 'Twan (miccio), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 17:21 (twenty years ago)

or maybe ILX is pwning YOU.

― ken c (ken c), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 17:21 (twenty years ago)

Sorry, my fault, deleted a Markelby post that I thought was hilariously ironic text-spam but which I now realise was making an actual point.

― Tom (Groke), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 17:22 (twenty years ago)

yeah, it was.

― 'Twan (miccio), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 17:24 (twenty years ago)

part of why I thought I dreamt it!

― 'Twan (miccio), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 17:24 (twenty years ago)

FWIW: I gave 24 hour warning of my shit tantrum!

You did? To who?

-- Ned Raggett (ne...), November 16th, 2005.

http://img.timeinc.net/time/magazine/archive/covers/2002/1101020527_400.jpg

― latebloomer (latebloomer), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 17:25 (twenty years ago)

we're pawning people now? where will the madness end?

― jel -- (jel), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 17:26 (twenty years ago)

you are all batshit insane. i think this bears mentioning at this point.

― strongo hulkington's ghost (dubplatestyle), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 17:36 (twenty years ago)

OTM!

― Thermo Thinwall (Thermo Thinwall), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 17:40 (twenty years ago)

haha insightful as ever.

― ken c (ken c), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 17:45 (twenty years ago)

im pissed that ilx had silly porn all over it, b/c of some petty thing that should have been kept between two people.

everyone makes fun of me--im an easy target, doesnt really do much to me. would perfer it here rather then the little noize j/o club---but ill deal.

i am pissed at how much noize hates fags, and how much of the silly nonesense gets pushed here...i dont know why we are hosting them.

― anthony easton (anthony), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 17:45 (twenty years ago)

i am pissed at how much noize hates fags

― giboyeux (skowly), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 17:47 (twenty years ago)

anthony --

as a semi-regular noize-board poster, a personal friend of Jon from high school, and a USDA grade-a certified fag, i can confidently say you are talking out of your gaping asshole.

― elmo (allocryptic), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 17:49 (twenty years ago)

http://www.myfitfamily.com/images/have-your-cake.gif

― jed_ (jed), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 17:54 (twenty years ago)

Jon is full of shit on this thread.

He's making semi-sincere apologies and acting interested in helping with coding bugs/errors, just like he always does when he throws a shitfit.

The truth is, the noise board was not disrupted at all by the Canadian actions. Nobody who posts there even noticed. Even Jon didn't notice for two days. OTOH, the CSS'ing instantly disrupted ILE and ILM about 100000000 times worse. Everybody noticed, obv.

Jon had his admin powers back on Monday morning. The only thing he couldn't do was revoke mods. While graciously waiting "24 hours" for the lizards to respond (which was more like 10 hours, actually), he decided he needed those revoke powers so badly that he had to bomb about 20 threads with images to get them back, rather than waiting until the next day to get them because all the lizards were asleep anyway.

Everyone IS batshit insane for taking this so seriously.

― MindInRewind (Barry Bruner), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 17:55 (twenty years ago)

I'm sorry, but you guys are a bunch of assholes. Why is it funny when you needle a ticking time bomb but like generally considered some kind of atrocity with Jon (READ: JON, NOT "THE NOIZE BOARD" PEOPLE GET IT FUCKING STRAIGHT) doing the same to another ticking time bomb or two? It's asinine behavior either way. Are you people all fucking 13 years old?

― Allyzay must fight Zolton herself. (allyzay), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 17:58 (twenty years ago)

"the Canadian actions"

roffle

― jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 17:58 (twenty years ago)

"the Canadian actions"

― hostile java crips (dr g), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 17:58 (twenty years ago)

Regardless of phrasing, is Barry right with that description of events? Yes, no?

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 18:02 (twenty years ago)

Ally, please see the post of mine Tom deleted for my considered answer.

― Markelby (Mark C), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 18:03 (twenty years ago)

"the Canadian actions"

Good meme, no?

Ally -- 99% of what's written and done on ILX is asinine. Most of it is also funny. What's your point?

― MindInRewind (Barry Bruner), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 18:05 (twenty years ago)

Lots of people act like 13-year old assholes on these boards but not everybody throws CSS tantrums.

― MindInRewind (Barry Bruner), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 18:06 (twenty years ago)

no basically the events go 'mods pwn jon, jon pwns mods, mods decide to pwn everyone else', it's 9/11 -> iraq all over again, with kate as chalabi. tone otm upthread.

― j blount (papa la bas), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 18:07 (twenty years ago)

What is CSS?

― jel -- (jel), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 18:08 (twenty years ago)

it's this show about coroners in vegas, 'the new quincy'. better writing than ile fo sho.

― j blount (papa la bas), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 18:09 (twenty years ago)

I'll check it out sometime, I think it's on Channel 5!

― jel -- (jel), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 18:11 (twenty years ago)

I want to be Chemical Ali.

― hostile java crips (dr g), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 18:11 (twenty years ago)

The only actual outcome of any of this is going to be an attempt to sort out the code, which will prevent CSS nonsense.

― Tom (Groke), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 18:12 (twenty years ago)

http://carnets.ixmedia.com/fred/mars/ArcadeFire_time_200.gif

― Jdubz (ex machina), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 18:13 (twenty years ago)

http://noemata.net/automata/img/ateam.jpg

― Jdubz (ex machina), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 18:14 (twenty years ago)

here's a rash, extreme proposal (my own private patriot act): if 'something must be done' howsabout this - 1) ile/x gets new mods who won't provoke stuff for shits and giggles and then graham out and shut down the entire board when it backfires, 2) kate/jon don't post on ile for however long and agree to stick to their own personal boards and the subboards which kick ile's ass now anyways (big kal-l counterproposal: ile is terminated, broken into superior anyhow subboards; restore the multiverse).

― j blount (papa la bas), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 18:14 (twenty years ago)

That's your "road map", if you will?

― Thermo Thinwall (Thermo Thinwall), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 18:16 (twenty years ago)

I like the counterproposal a lot.

― 'Twan (miccio), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 18:18 (twenty years ago)

As you know I'm at least half with Kal-L on this one.

James the mods are not one hydra headed beast any more than the Noize Bored is. The mod doing the shutting down was hugely annoyed w/the mod doing the provoking. Both these 'mods' are actually coders and IMO shouldn't even have front end 'moderating' abilities.

Extra mods - yes.

― Tom (Groke), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 18:18 (twenty years ago)

kal-l? Vulcan high command?

― jel -- (jel), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 18:23 (twenty years ago)

Blount is the son of Nic Cage.

― 'Twan (miccio), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 18:25 (twenty years ago)

http://www.oldtoyz1.com/LeChat.jpg

― Jdubz (ex machina), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 18:25 (twenty years ago)

ooh my best proposal yet: make marcello sole mod on ile, total 'he's outta control - but dammit he's the best we got' setup, i'm getting chillz. i totally think that waving kitten should be back too - maybe just on weekends.

jel do you sincerely believe nicolas cage would name his son after a vulcan? you think he's a dork or something?

― j blount (papa la bas), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 18:27 (twenty years ago)

nic cage would totally do that! Sorry, I've just got Enterprise on my mind.

― jel -- (jel), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 18:29 (twenty years ago)

when i say 'make marcello mod' i mean like give him god powers, banning people, changing people's posts, if he wants the board background blue it's blue, whatever, i trust him with it, let's face it we all do, he's ready, the board's ready, it's time. we should get that penguin from aja/dante too.

― j blount (papa la bas), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 18:30 (twenty years ago)

homophobic noize threads:
Things that are pretentiosexual:
KuNT FACTory NAZZI GOON SUCK MADD DICK
HOT CREAMED PORN! PORN ON THE COB! POP PORN!
Hey ladies, ever wondered what it'd be like to get fingerblasted by Lewis Black?
We'd all be better off if some of you yammering faggots would quit flapping your dicksuckers for a minute
MY TWO GAY DADS: MOMUS AND ALEX IN NYC
MY BOSS IS A COCKSUCKER.
TEH NOIZE BOY IS LAME AND GAY AND IS FULL OF GAY FAGGOTS THAT CANT TAKE THE TRUTH OR THE NEW HOTTNESS AND PROBABLY ARE MUSLIMS (HAHA GAY MUSLIMS)
Everything Is Gay
/ILX/ThreadSelectedControllerServlet?category.php?catid=328

― anthony easton (anthony), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 18:30 (twenty years ago)

The world shudders at Nic's impending superhero/hairpiece debacle

― kingfish hobo juckie (kingfish 2.0), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 18:35 (twenty years ago)

Cocksuckers can be male or female, btw.

― n/a (Nick A.), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 18:39 (twenty years ago)

not in this context they cant

― anthony easton (anthony), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 18:42 (twenty years ago)

blount stop talking crazy and get on with the 80s poll.

― Sororah T Massacre (blueski), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 18:43 (twenty years ago)

sorry to go back to the pissing match but i must respond to kate's accusations of me being a stalker. kate, you are a lying, piece of shit human being. i've never stalked anyone except buckethead after a show when i was 19. no one is ever going to take you seriously. you are a bullshitter and everyone knows it. you are hated.

― howell huser (chaki), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 18:44 (twenty years ago)

Everything about the aftermath of the out(r)age has been predictably overblown. You can be as upset as you choose to be about this, and it is as big a deal as you make it. Remember, if you let Jon's shenanigans actually upset you, the terrorists have pwned. See every Kate/Jon fight ever for examples of the opposite of what to do.

http://mednews.stanford.edu/stanmed/2005winter/story_images/cover.jpg

Also, there's a lot of sexual humor on the noise board, both gay and straight, and none of it is particularly hateful. They aren't the droids you're looking for, anthony.

― Laura H. (laurah), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 18:47 (twenty years ago)

TEH NOIZE BOY IS LAME AND GAY AND IS FULL OF GAY FAGGOTS THAT CANT TAKE THE TRUTH OR THE NEW HOTTNESS AND PROBABLY ARE MUSLIMS (HAHA GAY MUSLIMS)

I don't know about the other threads, but this one at least was started by "esteban buttez", who was banned from the noise board, like, immediately IIRC.

"the mods" are not some single-brained entity.

― Pashmina (Pashmina), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 18:47 (twenty years ago)

how is ladies being fingerblasted by lewis black homophobic?

― caitlin oh no (caitxa1), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 18:49 (twenty years ago)

DISCUS.

― Jdubz (ex machina), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 18:53 (twenty years ago)

is lewis black the 'back in black' dude from daily show who does the really awful comedy segment on hbo's nfl show this year? i'm sick of that guy, it would suck to be fingerblasted by him.

― j blount (papa la bas), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 18:54 (twenty years ago)

anthony --

don't let your knee-jerk reaction to the word "faggot" dislodge the dick from your mouth.

― elmo (allocryptic), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 18:54 (twenty years ago)

anthony goes off halfcocked about stuff he's too arrogant to bother to actually investigate or listen to others about all the time, let's not get distracted here. how can we save ~~lois~~ ile???

― j blount (papa la bas), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 18:57 (twenty years ago)

xpost haha "halfcocked"

Anthony, do you acknowledge any distinction at all between "casual homophobia," "hates fags," and U R ALL TEH GHEYZ0R memeplay?

Not to say that the word "cocksucker" doesn't have a history or reify certain attitudes (which I'd argue have more to do with power relations in the hoosegow than homophobia), but context does have to count for something.

http://phoenixrising.typepad.com/photos/uncategorized/ep20_al_cheers.jpg

― rogermexico (rogermexico), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 18:59 (twenty years ago)

"cocksucker" seems to hearken back to when oral was a big deal, like in rabbit, run where it's a BIG DEAL harry wants a bj. discus.

― j blount (papa la bas), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 19:01 (twenty years ago)

That's a very un-Schizopolis like answer, Elmo!

tri-xpost

― Thermo Thinwall (Thermo Thinwall), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 19:08 (twenty years ago)

it really annoys me when people say nasty things and hide them under really cheap irony--i dont think its funny, i think its juvenile and smaks of heterosexist privelege(Sp)

read the louis black thread.
and blount, i am a better and more cohseive reader then you have ever given me credit for...

and why is discuss such a comedy word in my context--why is wanting people to talk about things so awful

― anthony easton (anthony), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 19:11 (twenty years ago)

At present, the whole database fules out for several minutes when a user is banned, thread is locked, privileges are changed -- right? What's to stop Jon from locking/unlocking a noize thread every few seconds with a script, for the purpose of making the whole site unusable for everyone? Good idea, yeah? I look forward to the next tantrum.

― Nine (nine), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 19:12 (twenty years ago)

NEW PROPOSAL: a person starting a thread can ban ONE ilxor from posting on said thread (with the obvious caveat that the thread can't be about said banned ilxor) - HERE'S THE TWIST: a person starting a thread has to ban ONE ilxor from posting on that thread AND everyone can see who you banned AND each subsequent poster can unban that poster and then ban someone else cuz 'ownership' of threads is a rightwing inherently undemocratic auteurist prop AND i think this could have funny results maybe. ALSO you must assign yr thread a color and a number and when the threads are added together we arrive at a rainbow and it = infinity! also we can embed some fucking tull in the threads maybe already. we should find a way to leave pieces of candy on the board for others to find also i propose.

― j blount (papa la bas), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 19:14 (twenty years ago)

What's to stop Jon from locking/unlocking a noize thread every few seconds with a script, for the purpose of making the whole site unusable for everyone? Good idea, yeah? I look forward to the next tantrum.

Thought of that already. Or you could do a flood of image links to search.php to nuke the db

― Jdubz (ex machina), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 19:15 (twenty years ago)

this just in: still batshit insane.

blount may be talking sense but my head hurts too much to read that many words.

― strongo hulkington's ghost (dubplatestyle), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 19:17 (twenty years ago)

maybe if it had al's name on it you would read it *ooooh*

― j blount (papa la bas), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 19:18 (twenty years ago)

i...don't understand.

― strongo hulkington's ghost (dubplatestyle), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 19:21 (twenty years ago)

i really need to stop pre-game drinking before i go to shows.

― strongo hulkington's ghost (dubplatestyle), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 19:22 (twenty years ago)

Points go to blount for today's Updike ref.

― kingfish hobo juckie (kingfish 2.0), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 19:22 (twenty years ago)

anthony --

re: the "homophobic" louis black thread

fyi, "andrew l.r." is an old login of mine.
and, as far as i know, louis black is actually gay.

― elmo (allocryptic), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 19:23 (twenty years ago)

uh what happened? someone circumvent a lake?

― cozen (Cozen), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 19:24 (twenty years ago)

This is an interesting thread.

― I do feel guilty for getting any perverse amusement out of it (Rock Hardy), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 19:25 (twenty years ago)

cozen: someone was 'naughty', then someone else was 'naughty'. Some people have been made to stand in the corner.

― jel -- (jel), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 19:29 (twenty years ago)

waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay upthread: Barry, my "point" was that I really have a hard time believing every single person involved in this drama didn't know that Jon would FLIP THE FUCK OUT after he figured out what was going on. I mean, that's what he does, love it or hate it, he can get as freaked out as Kate about people invading his "things." So just as it's completely disingenuous that Jon is claiming he now wants to help code or whatever the hell you claimed he said (I can't be bothered to search the thread(s) and see if Jon actually said that though he has before so I have no reason to disbelieve), it's completely disingenuous to sit there all like, "Oh we didn't know blah blah blah." Grow the fuck up, a blind freaking chimpanzee coulda seen this all coming from 8 miles away.

IN SHORT: Y'ALL DID THE EXACT SAME IMMATURE BULLSHIT THING ON VARYING LEVELS AND Y'ALL SHOULD GET SOME GODDAMN TIMEOUT. LIKE, PERHAPS, A WEEK OR TWO TIMEOUT. Jon I love ya but that means you too buddy, I mean wtf??? Atari Penis Porn is never in vogue.

also jess totally OTM per usual.

― Allyzay must fight Zolton herself. (allyzay), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 19:40 (twenty years ago)

(FWIW I kind of think both things are funny, but I also kinda think that CSS trolling is easily taken care of while a sys admin who leaves his computer wide open for drunks to take over whatever they want is kind of less easily taken care of)

― Allyzay must fight Zolton herself. (allyzay), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 19:43 (twenty years ago)

Jel raises an intriguing idea; can we get the Blair Witch in as moderator?

― Dan (I'm... So Sorry...) Perry (Dan Perry), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 19:43 (twenty years ago)

Ha ha ha ha

― Pashmina (Pashmina), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 19:46 (twenty years ago)

I still think that the guy standing against the wall at the end of blair witch was taking a pee.

― jel -- (jel), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 19:51 (twenty years ago)

i'm on the phone with a temp agency right now, what exactly are we looking for?

― strongo hulkington's ghost (dubplatestyle), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 20:00 (twenty years ago)

I love how everyone seems to think that Jon’s CSS flooding was spurred by a bursting dam of emotion and rage, like he was stomping around shouting with smoke coming out of his ears like Yosemite Sam. I guess that’s just the internet, and we can’t help assuming and inferring and projecting unless we have emoticons to guide us.

― Laura H. (laurah), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 20:05 (twenty years ago)

Jess, the temp must have the following:

* cool in a crisis
* 'team player'
* neat and tidy appearence
* must own a pen
* low expectations

― jel -- (jel), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 20:06 (twenty years ago)

I guess I am a blind freaking chimpanzee then.

― Thermo Thinwall (Thermo Thinwall), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 20:07 (twenty years ago)

so we need a nun.

― strongo hulkington's ghost (dubplatestyle), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 20:07 (twenty years ago)

sometimes a bunch of cocks filling your screen is just a bunch of cocks filling your screen

― 'Twan (miccio), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 20:08 (twenty years ago)

Ally, can you please come live with me (being my love not required)? We can swap diatribes and do each other's hair -- it'll be fun!!

― Laurel (Laurel), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 20:09 (twenty years ago)

a bunch of cocks filling my screen? i didn't even notice the difference!

― strongo hulkington's ghost (dubplatestyle), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 20:12 (twenty years ago)

cough

― strongo hulkington's ghost (dubplatestyle), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 20:13 (twenty years ago)

FWIW I thought the Atari Penis Riot picture was very, very funny. I never actually saw any of the CSS or logout things, I'm guessing because I either didn't click on the threads where they were posted or because browsing with images off prevented the chaos from occurring. A lot of the frothing indignation on this thread from both sides doesn't make any sense to me.

I kind of like the idea of Jon as a blank automaton emotionlessly posting CSS to random threads. It makes me think of Hayley Joel Osment in "AI". (Actually a lot of Jon's posts make me think of Hayley Joel Osment, which may be why I find him virtually impossible to take seriously.)

― Dan (Or Maybe Cousin Oliver From The Brady Bunch) Perry (Dan Perry), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 20:13 (twenty years ago)

Do nuns have pens? Where do they keep them?

― Jordan (Jordan), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 20:15 (twenty years ago)

In their pencil cases Jordan. They sometimes write letters or cards.

― jel -- (jel), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 20:19 (twenty years ago)

Atari Penis Porn is never in vogue

I have to disagree there ...

And Ally, your argument makes no sense ... essentially, I should feel free to throw tantrums online and IRL, because after a while, people will become accustomed to my shitty behaviour and learn to love and accept it because that's just the way I am.

You'd be hard pressed to find two people who are making less of a big deal of this than me and Thermo. Some funny stuff happened, end of story. However, some of blount's ideas are very intruiging.

― MindInRewind (Barry Bruner), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 20:21 (twenty years ago)

Where do they carry the pencil cases? Secret nun pockets?

― Jordan (Jordan), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 20:22 (twenty years ago)

SSSShhhhhhh! (it's a secret)

― jel -- (jel), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 20:26 (twenty years ago)

"Secret nun pockets."

― giboyeux (skowly), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 20:26 (twenty years ago)

Jordan, you will not trick me into making any vagina jokes.

― Dan (OH DAMMIT) Perry (Dan Perry), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 20:27 (twenty years ago)

I can't stress enough how much I like that "destroy ILE" concept. The various community-subset boards would still exist for group hugs and the like, and it'd be less likely that they'd bother with all the "OMG look what person X said on the main forum" jive. Plus it means more people would check out the subject specific forums if they actually had something to say about Something other than meta.

― 'Twan (miccio), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 20:29 (twenty years ago)

I think this thread has been saved now.

High fives all round! Well done team.

― jel -- (jel), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 20:29 (twenty years ago)

Unexpected restraint, Dan!

― Jordan (Jordan), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 20:31 (twenty years ago)

Some funny stuff happened, end of story.

You mean like banning amon from the noise board?

― Jdubz (ex machina), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 20:32 (twenty years ago)

Okay so I noticed exactly none of this stuff except for the fact that I got poxyfuled a lot for a few hours. But if I'd gotten pikapooed or CockTaried at work I'd probably care more, so as always I'm gonna assume most posters' main horse in this race is just hoping that behind-the-scenes pwnage and on-stage personal beefs get in the way of actual thread-having as little as possible.

(That said, Jon, I'm kinda curious: are you actually offended by someone kinda pranking the functioning of "your" board? Cause, hmm. I like checking the noise board; I'm not sure why anyone's too upset that there's one pocket here that ever-so-slightly more into jackaround aesthetics and URALLGAY jokes and NSFW picture-funnies than ILX is; it's not like e.g. ILM has been its old-school Civil-"Adult"-Discussions-with-Ned/Josh/Tom dreamland self in a long long time. But c'mon now -- you've extended that free-play approach to the board's functioning plenty of times, going all the way back to picture-bursts and background-image HTML and plenty of other things that make it harder for some people to use the boards. And while that's different from behind-the-scenes mods-and-privs stuff, I always got the sense that you were cool with unserious prankage and pwnage all round. So now that someone's pranked you in about the same way, and you've pranked ILX-as-a-whole back, I mean ... that's cool with you, right? You're not offended? Cause I always figured you were okay with going a little free-for-all with that sort of thing.)

― nabisco (nabisco), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 20:59 (twenty years ago)

nabisco his response was a waving kitty, he was less than livid i'd wager

― j blount (papa la bas), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 21:04 (twenty years ago)

Kitten stealer.

― giboyeux (skowly), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 21:05 (twenty years ago)

CockTaried

My lexicon is enriched.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 21:06 (twenty years ago)

I agree with nabisco, in that I don't get why Jon was pissed at something he'd think was a hilarious, fabulous coup if HE had done it.

I thought what Barry and Thermo did was pretty funny - they made it very clear they'd nicked his powers TWO DAYS EARLIER and NO ONE NOTICED. This shit only happened once they pointed it out, and they did say it was temporary and wouldnt happen again.

I saw it as making a point. A zing, if you will. One Jon couldn't take. Boo hoo!

― Trayce (trayce), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 21:06 (twenty years ago)

i was gonna say, he didn't seem so mad when i ran into him on the l train (shocker!) monday morning, and the mod priv thing came up like after about four other subjects first (where to eat in west village, what we did on our weekends, etc.).

― hstencil (hstencil), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 21:06 (twenty years ago)

NAMEDROPPER

― Dan (The Other Day When Donut Bitch Was Over, We Watched VH-1 Until Our Sides Bu, Wednesday, 16 November 2005 21:07 (twenty years ago)

No, I was annoyed because the intent was to be mean and it stopped most of the normal fun activities of the noise board since we can't edit postsn and the douches were banning regulars.

Anyway, I don't think the term "pwn" can apply to this! Pwning would be like... getting my ILX password by hostile javascript, not some jackass sysadmin simply giving his friends mod privs.

xpost

Yea, Trayce, I don't sit inside all weekend eating pork rinds like all you people.

― Jdubz (ex machina), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 21:08 (twenty years ago)

Let's try an experiment.

Let's swap the noise mods and the ile mods for 2 days! You know its funny!

― Jdubz (ex machina), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 21:08 (twenty years ago)

pork rinds?

― strongo hulkington's ghost (dubplatestyle), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 21:09 (twenty years ago)

You are all celebrity lickspittle scum. Anyway, so hanging out with Arthur and M. White and Alex in SF and Paul and all them was neat...

Jon, the only thing I don't get is why you thought fucking things over for a lot of people who had nothing to do with the situation was the right response.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 21:10 (twenty years ago)

Well, no one responded in writing or action to my complaints sunday night. Fucking shit up = results.

― Jdubz (ex machina), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 21:11 (twenty years ago)

Jon, it doesn't do your arguments any favors when you construct putdowns that actually sound really awesome! You might as well say "Well at least I'm not a freak who likes rollercoasters!" or "I bet you people like to have more than one orgasm in a sexual session; pathetic, really."

― Dan (MMMMMM PORK RINDS) Perry (Dan Perry), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 21:11 (twenty years ago)

I thought pork scratchings were the way to go in 2006?

― KSTFUNS (Ex Leon), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 21:13 (twenty years ago)

http://flakmag.com/misc/images/chubby.jpg

― Jdubz (ex machina), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 21:13 (twenty years ago)

INTERFATTEYS ON THE INTERNET

― duh, dan (dubplatestyle), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 21:13 (twenty years ago)

Well, no one responded in writing or action to my complaints sunday night. Fucking shit up = results.

Waiting until Monday morning to see if anyone did respond would have been that hard?

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 21:14 (twenty years ago)

Well, no one responded in writing or action to my complaints sunday night.

First you make fun of people for BEING online on a weekend, now you're complaining cos no one WAS online to fix your issue . Make up yr mind!

― Trayce (trayce), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 21:14 (twenty years ago)

Also what Ned said.

― Trayce (trayce), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 21:14 (twenty years ago)

Seriously, while I can understand you'd be pissed at what the guys did to yr board, what you did in response was way out of proportion, involved a lot of people a lot of time and hassle, and makes you look 12.

― Trayce (trayce), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 21:15 (twenty years ago)

NOW I AIN'T SAYIN HE'S A NAMEDROPPER
BUT YOU WON'T SEE HIM WITH NO BROKE, BROKE UH

― n/a (Nick A.), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 21:16 (twenty years ago)

I sent emails at 6:52 pm EST sunday. I don't think anything was fucked up until Monday evening?

― Jdubz (ex machina), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 21:16 (twenty years ago)

Trayce, maybe I would have noticed if you had AIM :(

― Jdubz (ex machina), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 21:17 (twenty years ago)

Hahaha.

― Trayce (trayce), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 21:17 (twenty years ago)

Wait, damn y'all fuckers, don't agree with me, I didn't say anything! I was actually just asking Jon, because I didn't know. Also I assumed he was CSSing everything with the CockTari -- I didn't realize the kitten was getting postered over that, because, like I said, none of that was getting through my browser anyway. All I know is the whole thing seemed to be taking the board out of service for a while (and people elsewhere seemed to be wondering why skinny-Pikachu was taking a dump all over ILM).

Anyway. Whatever. But yeah, I think all most of us ask is that whatever's going on back there, people try to be decent about not fucking with the way lots of other people are using the boards, which includes both "attempts at serious discussion" and "at work" and all that other stuff. The image-hider isn't foolproof, and threads do get clogged, and traffic jams do happen, which sucks for everyone else -- and Jon, I mean, you know you were pulling kind of an act of terrorism there, scrambling the board up for "civilian" users because the mods weren't on top of fixing something! Which is pretty no-harm-done, but I'd hate for that to become the norm for everyone (whether it's "civilians" on the noise board or here).

I mean THINK ABOUT THE CHILDREN.

― nabisco (nabisco), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 21:19 (twenty years ago)

"civilians"!

― s1ocki (slutsky), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 21:21 (twenty years ago)

http://israel-politics.tripod.com/baby-bomber.jpg

― Jdubz (ex machina), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 21:22 (twenty years ago)

NABISCO OTM NOW AND FOREVER

― hostile java crips (dr g), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 21:24 (twenty years ago)

The children need pork rinds.

― Dan (Problem Solved... WITH YUMMY RESULTS) Perry (Dan Perry), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 21:24 (twenty years ago)

Hey - there was no intent to be mean on my or Barry's part.

massive x-post

― Thermo Thinwall (Thermo Thinwall), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 21:26 (twenty years ago)

The act of conspiring to do so with Noodles suggests otherwise.

― Jdubz (ex machina), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 21:27 (twenty years ago)

Next stages: (a) ILX mods in "we will not negotiate with style-sheet terrorists" shocker; (b) calls to regular ILX posters to exercise vigilance and fortitude and report all unattended in-line images to ModBoard "Total Information Awareness" thread; (c) ILX invades "HTML Playground" and "Dante/Aja" boards, two failed states that serve as breeding/training grounds for image-terror; (d) Regular Poster Act grants mods unprecendented power to investigate image-linking, as well as stripping posters of rights; (e) Cutty held indefinitely and without trial in secret base on "De Subjectivistin"; (f) Hstencil and Jaymc lead massive ILX march in response to rumors of mod plans to invade Noise Board; (g) etc etc etc

(Also damnit don't make fun of me because people say I'm on the money! I never say I'm on the money! I'm sad now.)

― nabisco (nabisco), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 21:29 (twenty years ago)

But you ask for it, by being OTM all the time.

― n/a (Nick A.), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 21:32 (twenty years ago)

nitsuh don't let them smell fear!

― strongo hulkington's ghost (dubplatestyle), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 21:33 (twenty years ago)

you over-estimate me again, jon! i did not mean to hurt your feelings

xpost

― Thermo Thinwall (Thermo Thinwall), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 21:35 (twenty years ago)

Actually I should let that go -- I would happy for the running joke about me to be that people think I'm right a lot. Sweet.

― nabisco (nabisco), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 21:35 (twenty years ago)

(Now is the point where turning the background of this thread yellow and posting "AMBER ALERT! AMBER ALERT!" would be appropriate.)

― Dan (Just Saying) Perry (Dan Perry), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 21:35 (twenty years ago)

Hstencil and Jaymc lead massive ILX march in response to rumors of mod plans to invade Noise Board

Hahaha. NOT LIKELY.

― jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 21:37 (twenty years ago)

http://www.oksolar.com/images/don-walk-walk.jpg

― Jdubz (ex machina), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 21:41 (twenty years ago)

You are all celebrity lickspittle scum.
You are all celebrity lickspittle scum.
You are all celebrity lickspittle scum.
You are all celebrity lickspittle scum.
You are all celebrity lickspittle scum.
You are all celebrity lickspittle scum.
You are all celebrity lickspittle scum.
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You are all celebrity lickspittle scum.
You are all celebrity lickspittle scum.

― Allyzay must fight Zolton herself. (allyzay), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 21:45 (twenty years ago)

ned is an odd man.

― strongo hulkington's ghost (dubplatestyle), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 21:46 (twenty years ago)

Still not sure how telling someone to suck a cock as an insult is homophobic, but hey.

― detoxyDancer (sexyDancer), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 22:00 (twenty years ago)

listen, don't worry too much about it.

― Allyzay must fight Zolton herself. (allyzay), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 22:02 (twenty years ago)

suck a cock, Ally

― Jdubz (ex machina), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 22:03 (twenty years ago)

It is homophobic in the same way that telling someone to lick a twat is sexist.

― Dan (IE, It's Actually Just Offensive And Not -Phobic At All) Perry (Dan Perry), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 22:03 (twenty years ago)

I'm already doing so right now, Jon!

― Allyzay must fight Zolton herself. (allyzay), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 22:04 (twenty years ago)

not sure how cockfarming is a bad thing either. who doesn't need cock?

― sensitiveDancer (sexyDancer), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 22:05 (twenty years ago)

b-b-but everbody suck a cock! It's universal!

― detoxyDancer (sexyDancer), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 22:05 (twenty years ago)

Telling someone to suck cock as an insult is mostly just rude to yourself, assuming you like having your cock sucked. But I think what Anthony's getting at is that telling a guy to suck cock, or accusing a guy of being a cocksucker -- which would be, duh, a homosexual act -- often has a pretty homophobic thread running through it. (This is why people don't call women "cocksuckers," and why, when they call them something similar, the implication is calling them whores, not fags.) Unfortunately that usage of cocksucker is so everywhere and common that I'm not sure it makes much sense to single any one instance of it out for investigation.

― nabisco (nabisco), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 22:07 (twenty years ago)

I'm gonna start using the phrase "titty looker" instead.

― Allyzay must fight Zolton herself. (allyzay), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 22:09 (twenty years ago)

quim nibbler

― j blount (papa la bas), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 22:12 (twenty years ago)

442 new answers.

ILX - the board where people talk about ILX.

― Teh HoBB (the pirate king), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 22:13 (twenty years ago)

It's all we have in common anymore.

― nabisco (nabisco), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 22:13 (twenty years ago)

other girl want to make out with-er

― giboyeux (skowly), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 22:13 (twenty years ago)

Can you get with the program? The topic changed away from ILX like 164 posts ago, mostly. We are now talking about cocksuckers, quim nibblers and titty lookers. I know that ruins your "witty" post but seriously, sign o' teh times dude, come on.

― Allyzay must fight Zolton herself. (allyzay), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 22:14 (twenty years ago)

I called upon a co-ed group of unfair bouncers to "suck madd dick" in hopes that public mental images of them on their knees in an sexually embarassing postion would lessen the power they had over me in the physical world. This is the purpose of sexual insults, not really having much to to with sex but rather "sex."

― detoxyDancer (sexyDancer), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 22:14 (twenty years ago)

Let's make out, Ally.

― luna (luna.c), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 22:16 (twenty years ago)

ONE OF THEM!

― giboyeux (skowly), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 22:17 (twenty years ago)

No, I was annoyed because the intent was to be mean

I'm having trouble with this statement coming from Jon.

― I do feel guilty for getting any perverse amusement out of it (Rock Hardy), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 22:17 (twenty years ago)

OMG A PERSON WHO HAS DONE MEAN STUFF TO SOMEONE ELSE DOESN'T LIKE IT WHEN MEAN STUFF IS DONE TO THEM! STOP THE PRESSES!!!!!!!!

― Dan (Seriously, Are You High?) Perry (Dan Perry), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 22:19 (twenty years ago)

luna, I'm totally down.

― Allyzay must fight Zolton herself. (allyzay), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 22:20 (twenty years ago)

DELETE ONE INTRENET

― Teh HoBB (the pirate king), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 22:20 (twenty years ago)

I call upon all men of the world to stop advancing this notion of on-the-knees cocksucking as a "sexually embarrassing position!" We LIKE this kind of thing, remember? We should be claiming it's the most honorable, beautiful, and fulfilling thing anyone could dream of doing. Also that's it's slimming and makes you seem smarter.

― nabisco (nabisco), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 22:21 (twenty years ago)

SHUT UP YOU TITTY LOOKER, WE AIN'T GONNA FALL FOR SOMETHING THAT DUMB.

― Allyzay must fight Zolton herself. (allyzay), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 22:21 (twenty years ago)

I think that's the best part of this whole conversation.

(Which was supposed to be an x-post, but now I think it works here, too)

― luna (luna.c), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 22:22 (twenty years ago)

If it was honorable, it wouldn't be hot.

― Jordan (Jordan), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 22:22 (twenty years ago)

Nabisco, you may have just changed MENSA forever.

― Dan (For The Better, That Is) Perry (Dan Perry), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 22:22 (twenty years ago)

ok let's get naked and just ignore nabisco. xpost

― Allyzay must fight Zolton herself. (allyzay), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 22:23 (twenty years ago)

If it was honorable, it wouldn't be hot.

Virgin/whore complex to thread!

― Laurel (Laurel), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 22:24 (twenty years ago)

I can always count on you to jump on my neck whenever I say anything about Jon, Dan. I don't understand it, but I can count on it. Was there one moment when you wrote me off as Always Wrong?

― I do feel guilty for getting any perverse amusement out of it (Rock Hardy), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 22:24 (twenty years ago)

It'd make a helluva lot more sense.

― luna (luna.c), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 22:24 (twenty years ago)

I don't know why I read this thread, possibly cos I thought I might have an opinion at the end.

― Ronan (Ronan), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 22:26 (twenty years ago)

Will there be nun pockets involved?

xpost

― Jordan (Jordan), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 22:26 (twenty years ago)

WOW: sex is embarrasing, dude.

― detoxyDancer (sexyDancer), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 22:27 (twenty years ago)

what is a nun pocket?

― Allyzay must fight Zolton herself. (allyzay), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 22:27 (twenty years ago)

Although actually I'm with Jordan (as opposed to Dan + Nabisco); if it was dignified and came highly recommended by the experts, how could it possibly be any fun? Let's keep it messy & filthy & desperate.

― Laurel (Laurel), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 22:28 (twenty years ago)

worst thread ever

― gear (gear), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 22:29 (twenty years ago)

See semi-funny innuendo/derailment upthread, Ally.

― Jordan (Jordan), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 22:30 (twenty years ago)

Laurel OTM re: craven cockworship

― elmo (allocryptic), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 22:32 (twenty years ago)

You know, I'm kinda gonna miss the giant Atari cocks now that they're gone.

― M@tt He1geson (Matt Helgeson), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 22:32 (twenty years ago)

oh I can't read upthread. It's already had its time, I wasn't there for it, c'est la vie.

― Allyzay must fight Zolton herself. (allyzay), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 22:42 (twenty years ago)

You freaks have clearly not learned the middle path, which I shall explain via reference to the world of pop music. Witness Extreme's "More than Words." Consider that it is Slick Rick's "Treat Her Like a Prostitute" dressed up as Freddie Jackson's "You are My Lady." That's called finesse.

― nabisco (nabisco), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 22:49 (twenty years ago)

ok this "More Than Words" slander was totally uncalled for

― 'Twan (miccio), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 22:51 (twenty years ago)

TRIANGULATION! THE THIRD WAY!

― M@tt He1geson (Matt Helgeson), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 22:54 (twenty years ago)

"You Are My Lady" is homophobic hate speech and should be banned!

― Tantrum The Cat (Tantrum The Cat), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 22:54 (twenty years ago)

The D'Angelo song???

― Dan (Unlike Crumpw, I Know When To Drop A Tired Subject PS: LAST WORD HAHA) Perr, Wednesday, 16 November 2005 22:58 (twenty years ago)

T/S: Clowning VS. Crumping

― M@tt He1geson (Matt Helgeson), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 22:59 (twenty years ago)

I look up to Dan, and he treats me like a redheaded stepchild. Why, lord?

― I do feel guilty for getting any perverse amusement out of it (Rock Hardy), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 23:04 (twenty years ago)

Oh, stop that.

― Dan (Pinnacle Of Triviality = ME) Perry (Dan Perry), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 23:08 (twenty years ago)

http://i.timeinc.net/people/i/2004/04/startracks/041220/akutcher1.jpg

― Pleasant Plains /// (Pleasant Plains ///), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 23:15 (twenty years ago)

Okay I take that back.

― Dan (WITH GUNS, PP! WITH GUNS!) Perry (Dan Perry), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 23:16 (twenty years ago)

You are all insane, but very entertaining. And this -- The act of conspiring to do so with Noodles -- whatever it means, is the best thing anyone's ever been accused of.

― gypsy mothra (gypsy mothra), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 23:21 (twenty years ago)

There was a conspiratorial FAP.

― Jdubz (ex machina), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 23:23 (twenty years ago)

At this point I'm tempted to put my hand up and say *I* conspired with Teh Canadiens, hell the whole things a mess anyway.

― Trayce (trayce), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 23:24 (twenty years ago)

Seriously, that girl needs to drop those flowers and kick Ashton in the belt buckle.

― Dan (Then Maybe Eat His Eyes) Perry (Dan Perry), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 23:24 (twenty years ago)

"the noodles incident"

― john p. irrelevant (electricsound), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 23:25 (twenty years ago)

My prog-rock double-album will be called A Conspiratorial FAP With Noodles.

― gypsy mothra (gypsy mothra), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 23:25 (twenty years ago)

Bahah Jim :D

― Trayce (trayce), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 23:26 (twenty years ago)

Now all we need is for Jon to put on a bandana and some tight spandex pants, and... OH GOD MY EYES.

― Trayce (trayce), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 23:26 (twenty years ago)

http://www.thenoodleincident.org/c&hnoodle.jpg

― john p. irrelevant (electricsound), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 23:27 (twenty years ago)

Now all we need is for Jon to put on a bandana and some tight spandex pants, and... OH GOD MY EYES.

NO FLOWER GIRL, GET ASHTON

― Dan (Stupid Cannibal) Perry (Dan Perry), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 23:28 (twenty years ago)

"the noodles incident"

Is that Axl's sequel to The Spaghetti Incident?

― KSTFUNS (Ex Leon), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 23:29 (twenty years ago)

I would happy for the running joke about me to be that people think I'm right a lot. Sweet.

-- nabisco (--...), November 16th, 2005 4:35 PM. (nabisco) (link)

i thought the running joke wasn't so much about you but about the ilxors who constantly race to be the first to gobble the nob of HE WHO IS ALWAYS OTM

― amon (eman), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 23:30 (twenty years ago)

so he gets to be right all the time, AND fellated?

― revolting upstairs (haitch), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 23:42 (twenty years ago)

I sense a new board.

― Dan ('I Fellate Everything') Perry (Dan Perry), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 23:44 (twenty years ago)

can i be a mod?

― elmo (allocryptic), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 23:47 (twenty years ago)

I wish this was like IRC where people got ops and we could kick and ban each other.

Or maybe I dont.

― Trayce (trayce), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 23:49 (twenty years ago)

Wait a second haven't we done that "More Than Words" thing like 3 times?

― Allyzay must fight Zolton herself. (allyzay), Thursday, 17 November 2005 00:29 (twenty years ago)

I suspect Thermo Thinwall, in the hockey rink, with the noodles.

― k/l (Ken L), Thursday, 17 November 2005 00:50 (twenty years ago)

Kinky.

― Trayce (trayce), Thursday, 17 November 2005 00:51 (twenty years ago)

I can't believe nobody has mentioned this yet

― Ste (Fuzzy), Thursday, 17 November 2005 00:59 (twenty years ago)

the fuck? oh forget it

― Ste (Fuzzy), Thursday, 17 November 2005 01:00 (twenty years ago)

i talk about w/ all the time

― jim p. irrelevant (electricsound), Thursday, 17 November 2005 01:01 (twenty years ago)

No, I was annoyed because the intent was to be mean and it stopped most of the normal fun activities of the noise board since we can't edit postsn and the douches were banning regulars.

Jon, your counterarguments suck.

We don't hold conspiratorial FAP's with the sole intent of being mean to other people on this board. Don't be an idiot.

No normal + fun activities of the board were stopped because NOBODY NOTICED ANYTHING UNUSUAL FOR TWO DAYS.

Noise board regulars + occasional posters NEVER get randomly banned and un-banned. I mean, it's not like there's an ILE thread that talks about it or anything.

You had your mod powers back on Monday morning (I gave them to you), and you could have passed them on to anybody you wanted. You started the kitten + Atari Penis Riot regardless. So much for the "mods ignored me for 24 hours" anti-excuse. Also, if the intent was to be mean then we would have kept control of the board and not given you your mod powers back.

In the future, I'm thinking about hitting up new film threads with a barrage of poker spam. Eventually people will get used to it and if they choose to start a film thread then they'll know what's coming and it'll be their fault for choosing to start the thread in the first place. In fact, this will undoubtedly improve the civility of the film threads.

Now go back to talking about whores and fags.

― MindInRewind (Barry Bruner), Thursday, 17 November 2005 01:35 (twenty years ago)

barry, jon was joking about the conspiratorial FAPs. sheesh. some people.

― howell huser (chaki), Thursday, 17 November 2005 01:43 (twenty years ago)

Seems to me the real point is that Barry sez Jon's complaint was addressed Monday morning, before everything went haywire.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 17 November 2005 01:46 (twenty years ago)

Indeed. The hell?

― Trayce (trayce), Thursday, 17 November 2005 01:48 (twenty years ago)

STILL WORST THREAD EVER

― gear (gear), Thursday, 17 November 2005 01:49 (twenty years ago)

We will never live up to the greatness you set the bar at tho Gear :( :(

― Trayce (trayce), Thursday, 17 November 2005 01:50 (twenty years ago)

i can't tell if that's sarcasm!

― gear (gear), Thursday, 17 November 2005 01:52 (twenty years ago)

It wasnt! :)

― Trayce (trayce), Thursday, 17 November 2005 01:55 (twenty years ago)

For such a terrible thread it's gotten A LOT of posts!

― Thermo Thinwall (Thermo Thinwall), Thursday, 17 November 2005 01:56 (twenty years ago)

justification of actions, bitching, moaning, endless circle of nothing, of course it's received a lot of posts.

― gear (gear), Thursday, 17 November 2005 02:00 (twenty years ago)

yeah, that never happens to terrible threads. (xp)

― amon (eman), Thursday, 17 November 2005 02:01 (twenty years ago)

"Also, if the intent was to be mean then we would have kept control of the board and not given you your mod powers back."

There were 20 or so people with mod powers. Now I believe there is only Jon. Not quite fixing the "mistake", eh?

― hostile java crips (dr g), Thursday, 17 November 2005 02:04 (twenty years ago)

(but yeah Jon is being a puss)

― hostile java crips (dr g), Thursday, 17 November 2005 02:04 (twenty years ago)

If you had mod privs before I know a surefire way you can get them back (could take a few days tho)!

― Thermo Thinwall (Thermo Thinwall), Thursday, 17 November 2005 02:07 (twenty years ago)

barry, jon was joking about the conspiratorial FAPs. sheesh. some people.

If he continues insisting that the whole purpose of this was to fuck up his shit and not to have a bit of laugh, then no he isn't.

― MindInRewind (Barry Bruner), Thursday, 17 November 2005 02:17 (twenty years ago)

I'm pretty sure he was kidding around.

― Thermo Thinwall (Thermo Thinwall), Thursday, 17 November 2005 02:21 (twenty years ago)

the only thing i have about this whole fiasco is: pork rinds are nasty.

― latebloomer (latebloomer), Thursday, 17 November 2005 02:28 (twenty years ago)

i'm currently listening to "detachable penis" by king missile.

i still like ice cream.

― Rob Bolton (Rob Bolton), Thursday, 17 November 2005 02:50 (twenty years ago)

Your vespa will be sad :(

― Trayce (trayce), Thursday, 17 November 2005 02:51 (twenty years ago)

what about motherfuckers?

― Mendoza Lineman (Carey), Thursday, 17 November 2005 02:51 (twenty years ago)

incestophobe!

― latebloomer (latebloomer), Thursday, 17 November 2005 02:54 (twenty years ago)

http://www.raw.at/sub/galerie/images/comix/pinky_and_brain.gif

― Kim (Kim), Thursday, 17 November 2005 02:55 (twenty years ago)

i know how to fix any future ilx bitchfights:

all involved parties must NARFLE THE GARTHOK!!

― tehresa (tehresa), Thursday, 17 November 2005 03:08 (twenty years ago)

"the noods incident"

― Homosexual II (Homosexual II), Thursday, 17 November 2005 03:28 (twenty years ago)

We don't hold conspiratorial FAP's with the sole intent of being mean to other people on this board.

hmm

― gypsy mothra (gypsy mothra), Thursday, 17 November 2005 04:31 (twenty years ago)

Hello! I'm a bit drunk right now, and I'm not sure I'm regular enough on here to deserve a vote. But if I get one, I want it to be this:

1) What jon did was a bit daft but it helped me get away from my pc for a few hours, and his shitting pikachu made me laugh, so that's all fine with me.

2) kate is regularly annoying and I'd be happier if she was banned.

That's all thanks bye.

― JimD (JimD), Thursday, 17 November 2005 04:52 (twenty years ago)

well ok gypsy, there was one time we made fun of Ned's winky.

― Kim (Kim), Thursday, 17 November 2005 04:56 (twenty years ago)

hmmm

― gear (gear), Thursday, 17 November 2005 04:57 (twenty years ago)

Alan is great

― hostile java crips (dr g), Thursday, 17 November 2005 05:54 (twenty years ago)

does "winky" mean the same thing in Canadian?

― rogermexico (rogermexico), Thursday, 17 November 2005 05:57 (twenty years ago)

well ok gypsy, there was one time we made fun of Ned's winky.

Just the one? I'm disappointed in you.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 17 November 2005 05:58 (twenty years ago)

i can't believe i read this entire thread sober

― J.D. (Justyn Dillingham), Thursday, 17 November 2005 06:08 (twenty years ago)

but what it doews it all means to canadian unity ooer?

― Sébastien Chikara (Sébastien Chikara), Thursday, 17 November 2005 06:25 (twenty years ago)

that was an .ethical. meme of mainstream canadian journalism btw

― Sébastien Chikara (Sébastien Chikara), Thursday, 17 November 2005 06:28 (twenty years ago)

ca na da
they need more visibility round here' let's sponsor them jolly bastards

― Sébastien Chikara (Sébastien Chikara), Thursday, 17 November 2005 06:35 (twenty years ago)

clearly, there is one thing that everyone can agree on here:

BLAME CANADA
http://www.webdevil.com/jp/CXR/jpg/blame%20canada.jpg

― Rob Bolton (Rob Bolton), Thursday, 17 November 2005 14:22 (twenty years ago)

http://www.canoe.ca/ImagesOscars2000/oscar11.jpg

― Rob Bolton (Rob Bolton), Thursday, 17 November 2005 14:24 (twenty years ago)

Anthony Easton, if you think we're homophobes, please read our reactions to the band name "AIDS Wolf".

jessica hopper on noize

― Jdubz (ex machina), Thursday, 17 November 2005 14:36 (twenty years ago)

Seems to me the real point is that Barry sez Jon's complaint was addressed Monday morning

From my understanding Jon did not get full moderator powers back and the rest of teh mods were out of luck. Still, yeah, Jon's reaction was kinda...extreme, I been saying this, but to my understanding that statement is not entirely accurate.

I love fights on this board, they distract me from actual horrible people I have to deal with constantly!

― Allyzay must fight Zolton herself. (allyzay), Thursday, 17 November 2005 15:23 (twenty years ago)

Fat Kate has posted like 3000 words to this thread.

― Jdubz (ex machina), Thursday, 17 November 2005 15:24 (twenty years ago)

Oh and there are holes on ILX big enough to drive a truck through since sub board admins can edit posts and insert javascript.

― Jdubz (ex machina), Thursday, 17 November 2005 15:25 (twenty years ago)

AIDS Wolf played St Paul a few months ago, I meant to go, but I heard they were pretty good.

― M@tt He1geson (Matt Helgeson), Thursday, 17 November 2005 15:32 (twenty years ago)

775 words, by my count, but whatever.

― giboyeux (skowly), Thursday, 17 November 2005 15:33 (twenty years ago)

did you count them by hand?

― Allyzay must fight Zolton herself. (allyzay), Thursday, 17 November 2005 15:34 (twenty years ago)

WITH COMPUTERS

― giboyeux (skowly), Thursday, 17 November 2005 15:35 (twenty years ago)

I think this should become the new "TITTWIS" thread!

― Thermo Thinwall (Thermo Thinwall), Thursday, 17 November 2005 15:37 (twenty years ago)

24 hours later: still batshit insane

― strongo hulkington's ghost (dubplatestyle), Thursday, 17 November 2005 15:38 (twenty years ago)

hi jess! what is your opinion of Terrell Owens?

― Allyzay must fight Zolton herself. (allyzay), Thursday, 17 November 2005 15:38 (twenty years ago)

"this is the thread where i lose all sense of perspective"

― lauren (laurenp), Thursday, 17 November 2005 15:38 (twenty years ago)

i like him! i mean, he generally seems like a self-satisified prick, but you can't deny the man can play the game of football.

― strongo hulkington's ghost (dubplatestyle), Thursday, 17 November 2005 15:40 (twenty years ago)

the best was last summer when he was playing a game of catch with his buddy on his front lawn and taunting reporters by not answering any of their questions while only feet away.

― strongo hulkington's ghost (dubplatestyle), Thursday, 17 November 2005 15:40 (twenty years ago)

I like how he beats up on his own teammates.

― Allyzay must fight Zolton herself. (allyzay), Thursday, 17 November 2005 15:42 (twenty years ago)

it's FOOTBALL people. you can't get too precious moments about it all.

― strongo hulkington's ghost (dubplatestyle), Thursday, 17 November 2005 15:44 (twenty years ago)

My main thing, right, with what he's doing, is that it's just fucking himself over. I mean he shouldn't want to play with the Eagles now, he should be happy to be benched, cos I know if I'm like Donovan's bud or like one of the linebackers TO tried to start fisticuffs with, I'd be like "Oh snap, I wasn't giving my best this game, I missed the block and NOW YOU HAVEN'T GOT KNEES." He needs to go play on a Parcells team, though Keyshawn and TO on the same team would be kind of like Paris Hilton and Nicole Richie on the same tv show.

― Allyzay must fight Zolton herself. (allyzay), Thursday, 17 November 2005 15:45 (twenty years ago)

endless roffles

― strongo hulkington's ghost (dubplatestyle), Thursday, 17 November 2005 15:46 (twenty years ago)

you do realize we have three or four posts left before this thread swings back around to its "intended" topic, right?

― strongo hulkington's ghost (dubplatestyle), Thursday, 17 November 2005 15:47 (twenty years ago)

Yeah I know. Except I'm not really sure what the intended topic really is besides bitch about Jon, Kate and Canada?

― Allyzay must fight Zolton herself. (allyzay), Thursday, 17 November 2005 15:49 (twenty years ago)

not a huge fan of any of them, to be perfectly honest.

― strongo hulkington's ghost (dubplatestyle), Thursday, 17 November 2005 15:50 (twenty years ago)

tho jon is definitely at the top of the faves-to-least-faves pile

― strongo hulkington's ghost (dubplatestyle), Thursday, 17 November 2005 15:50 (twenty years ago)

Canada is not so bad, it has the hockey hall of fame!

― KSTFUNS (Ex Leon), Thursday, 17 November 2005 15:52 (twenty years ago)

i always feel weird in canada. like i'm going to meet "evil jess".

― through the looking glass people (dubplatestyle), Thursday, 17 November 2005 15:52 (twenty years ago)

oh I think Jon's cute. I don't have any kind of problem with any of these people. You know who I do have a problem with though?

― Allyzay must fight Zolton herself. (allyzay), Thursday, 17 November 2005 15:53 (twenty years ago)

evil twins?

― strongo hulkington's ghost (dubplatestyle), Thursday, 17 November 2005 15:53 (twenty years ago)

No.

― Allyzay must fight Zolton herself. (allyzay), Thursday, 17 November 2005 15:54 (twenty years ago)

Is this going to be a "twenty questions"?

― Pashmina (Pashmina), Thursday, 17 November 2005 15:56 (twenty years ago)

Danny Aiello

― Sororah T Massacre (blueski), Thursday, 17 November 2005 15:57 (twenty years ago)

Wait, are Ally's twin sisters evil, good or just Ren Faire-obsessed?

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 17 November 2005 15:57 (twenty years ago)

They're not any of those things, Ned. You're thinking of my other sister.

I have a problem with Matthew McConaughey.

― Allyzay must fight Zolton herself. (allyzay), Thursday, 17 November 2005 15:59 (twenty years ago)

YES I'M GLAD THEYRE DEAD AND I HOPE THEY BURN IN HELL

― strongo hulkington's ghost (dubplatestyle), Thursday, 17 November 2005 16:00 (twenty years ago)

sorry i fucked it up

― strongo hulkington's ghost (dubplatestyle), Thursday, 17 November 2005 16:01 (twenty years ago)

i'm as bad as mcconaughey

― strongo hulkington's ghost (dubplatestyle), Thursday, 17 November 2005 16:01 (twenty years ago)

Yeah, honey, that's Samuel L. Jackson. C'mon. You see the Chapelle bit with Sam Jackson beer though? DRINK MY BEER BITCH, IT'LL MAKE YA DRUNK!

― Allyzay must fight Zolton herself. (allyzay), Thursday, 17 November 2005 16:15 (twenty years ago)

that AIDS Wolf thread is good for more ILX in-fighting, i.e. jaymc vs. Stormy Davis part XXVI.

― jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 17 November 2005 16:25 (twenty years ago)

way to self-promote

― strongo hulkington's ghost (dubplatestyle), Thursday, 17 November 2005 16:26 (twenty years ago)

for hot strongo-on-gygax action check out "indie guilt c/d (and other hip-hop beefs)"

― strongo hulkington's ghost (dubplatestyle), Thursday, 17 November 2005 16:26 (twenty years ago)

How about the thread where Gygax! threatens to beat me up?

― Jdubz (ex machina), Thursday, 17 November 2005 16:28 (twenty years ago)

Ethan and I have gotten together and are releasing an anthology of our greatest arguments over the years in a leather-bound volume, through Penguin Classics. Look for it in January.

― Allyzay must fight Zolton herself. (allyzay), Thursday, 17 November 2005 16:29 (twenty years ago)

1) What jon did was a bit daft but it helped me get away from my pc for a few hours, and his shitting pikachu made me laugh, so that's all fine with me.
2) kate is regularly annoying and I'd be happier if she was banned.
That's all thanks bye.

-- JimD (ji...), November 17th, 2005.

http://www.montesangiorgio.ch/images/otm.jpg

― bato (bato), Thursday, 17 November 2005 16:35 (twenty years ago)

i do have to say the best was the one where you threatened to spit in his face if he ever stepped foot in nyc

― strongo hulkington's ghost (dubplatestyle), Thursday, 17 November 2005 16:36 (twenty years ago)

Canada is not so bad, it has the hockey hall of fame!
-- KSTFUNS (nicole.kessle...), November 17th, 2005. (Ex Leon)

don't talk about MN like that!!!!!

― M@tt He1geson (Matt Helgeson), Thursday, 17 November 2005 16:40 (twenty years ago)

cocaine's a helluva drug.

― Allyzay must fight Zolton herself. (allyzay), Thursday, 17 November 2005 16:43 (twenty years ago)

I held a door open for Matthew McConaughey. He smelled like cigarette smoke.

― gypsy mothra (gypsy mothra), Thursday, 17 November 2005 17:21 (twenty years ago)

http://images.cyberpresse.ca/apps/pbcsi.dll/bilde?Site=CP&Date=20051117&Category=CPACTUALITES&ArtNo=51117023&Ref=AR&Profile=1025&MaxW=170

― Sébastien Chikara (Sébastien Chikara), Thursday, 17 November 2005 17:51 (twenty years ago)

I held a door open for Matthew McConaughey. He smelled like cigarette smoke.

Did he also smell like a used suppository?

― Dan (Because He Looks Like He Would) Perry (Dan Perry), Thursday, 17 November 2005 17:55 (twenty years ago)

Why are you so worried about the way Matthew McConaughey would smell?

― Allyzay must fight Zolton herself. (allyzay), Thursday, 17 November 2005 18:09 (twenty years ago)

I'm not worried, I'm looking for evidence to corroborate a theory.

― Dan (I Bet Dude Smells Like Ass) Perry (Dan Perry), Thursday, 17 November 2005 18:13 (twenty years ago)

ihttp://www.pierrepettigrew.ca/images/Pierre_Pettigrew.jpg

― Sébastien Chikara (Sébastien Chikara), Thursday, 17 November 2005 18:20 (twenty years ago)

Your theory that pot-and-cigarette-smoking bongo playing sweaty Southerners might smell bad?? Congrats, Hr. Einstein!!!

― Allyzay must fight Zolton herself. (allyzay), Thursday, 17 November 2005 18:21 (twenty years ago)

When did American culture turn "sexy" into a synonym for "dirty"?

-- Dan (Dude Looks Like He Smells Like A Diaper) Perry (djperry@gmail.com) (webmail), November 16th, 2005. (link)

― Dan (See Also: Brad Pitt) Perry (Dan Perry), Thursday, 17 November 2005 18:37 (twenty years ago)

ok picture I think

http://www.literacy.ca/public/action/98aug/pettigr.jpg

― Sébastien Chikara (Sébastien Chikara), Thursday, 17 November 2005 18:38 (twenty years ago)

I have heard many stories that Brad Pitt does indeed smell awful.

― Allyzay must fight Zolton herself. (allyzay), Thursday, 17 November 2005 18:40 (twenty years ago)

i can confirm this

― strongo hulkington's ghost (dubplatestyle), Thursday, 17 November 2005 18:52 (twenty years ago)

ban chikara pls.

― hstencil (hstencil), Thursday, 17 November 2005 18:54 (twenty years ago)

http://photos1.blogger.com/img/198/5511/640/shakira.jpg

― Dan (Wherever Whenever) Perry (Dan Perry), Thursday, 17 November 2005 18:58 (twenty years ago)

she kind of definitely looks like she smells, she's always in the dirt.

― Allyzay must fight Zolton herself. (allyzay), Thursday, 17 November 2005 18:59 (twenty years ago)

Hahaha I almost posted the mud-covered picture from her "La Tortura" video!

― Dan (It's Okay To Smell If Your Ass Is Awesome) Perry (Dan Perry), Thursday, 17 November 2005 19:03 (twenty years ago)

the cover of the new shakira labum gives me funny feelings

― strongo hulkington's ghost (dubplatestyle), Thursday, 17 November 2005 19:09 (twenty years ago)

Me too, Jess.

― Dan (BEST TYPO EVER) Perry (Dan Perry), Thursday, 17 November 2005 19:10 (twenty years ago)

CELEBRITIES THAT PROBABLY NEED A GOOD BATH, A LIST:
Brad Pitt
Matthew McConaughey
Shakira
Lenny Kravitz
Ethan Hawke
Christina Aguilera
Antonio Banderas

Please feel free to add your own.

― Allyzay must fight Zolton herself. (allyzay), Thursday, 17 November 2005 19:12 (twenty years ago)

I forgot TORI AMOS

― Allyzay must fight Zolton herself. (allyzay), Thursday, 17 November 2005 19:12 (twenty years ago)

pig pen
bubba sparxxx
the ultimate warrior

― strongo hulkington's ghost (dubplatestyle), Thursday, 17 November 2005 19:13 (twenty years ago)

Shannen Dougherty

― Allyzay must fight Zolton herself. (allyzay), Thursday, 17 November 2005 19:14 (twenty years ago)

Can I volunteer to bathe Shakira?

― n/a (Nick A.), Thursday, 17 November 2005 19:14 (twenty years ago)

please, somebody should, start with her hair.

― Allyzay must fight Zolton herself. (allyzay), Thursday, 17 November 2005 19:14 (twenty years ago)

With my tongue?

― n/a (Nick A.), Thursday, 17 November 2005 19:15 (twenty years ago)

lemmy from motorhead
the guy who plays hyde on that 70s show

― strongo hulkington's ghost (dubplatestyle), Thursday, 17 November 2005 19:15 (twenty years ago)

And my penis?

― n/a (Nick A.), Thursday, 17 November 2005 19:15 (twenty years ago)

Just to clarify: I am trying to imply that my penis is a celebrity that needs bathing, with my tongue.

― n/a (Nick A.), Thursday, 17 November 2005 19:16 (twenty years ago)

lemmy probably needs a whole "day of beauty"

― strongo hulkington's ghost (dubplatestyle), Thursday, 17 November 2005 19:17 (twenty years ago)

is it just me or is it sexier when a woman apparently can't be bothered to bathe than when a man can't? I mean obviously I'm wrong, look at Matthew McConaughey and his inexplicable sexiest man alive title, but it just seems like...an unwashed dude, you can find that shit anywhere.

also: Jack White

― Allyzay must fight Zolton herself. (allyzay), Thursday, 17 November 2005 19:18 (twenty years ago)

Lenny Kravits smells fine, actually.

― Jordan (Jordan), Thursday, 17 November 2005 19:18 (twenty years ago)

DETAILS

― jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 17 November 2005 19:19 (twenty years ago)

Bloomps needs a bath.

― Jordan (Jordan), Thursday, 17 November 2005 19:20 (twenty years ago)

I hate to say it but Owen Wilson probably, too.

― Allyzay must fight Zolton herself. (allyzay), Thursday, 17 November 2005 19:20 (twenty years ago)

Couple years ago he came to a brass band show in New Orleans, I was standing next to him at the club for a little while. He's shorter than me!

I mean, it was a club and it was in NO, so he probably could have gotten away with a strong base stench before it would overpower anything.

― Jordan (Jordan), Thursday, 17 November 2005 19:21 (twenty years ago)

i really don't have a problem with a woman who doesn't bathe, nor one who doesn't weed whack her bodyhair. it'd be hypocritical of me to feel otherwise.

― strongo hulkington's ghost (dubplatestyle), Thursday, 17 November 2005 19:23 (twenty years ago)

hahahahahahahaha ok you're not really selling Lenny's cleanliness with those kinda details dude.

xpost it ain't about having a problem with people! It's just about statin teh facts! Or the facts as I have just made them up, a few minutes ago!

― Allyzay must fight Zolton herself. (allyzay), Thursday, 17 November 2005 19:24 (twenty years ago)

it is NOT sexier when women don't bathe, women can fume man, it's like the coach in rabbit, run sez - 'they covered with hair', plus ally go to an indie rock town or maybe just brooklyn or something - it's TOTALLY common

― j blount (papa la bas), Thursday, 17 November 2005 19:26 (twenty years ago)

perception v. reality wrt the commonality thing! I mean dude you think I can be bothered half the time to take a shower on football sunday? You gotta be kidding me.

― Allyzay must fight Zolton herself. (allyzay), Thursday, 17 November 2005 19:30 (twenty years ago)

skipping one day is hardly a big deal, especially if that day's sunday. i'm at the point lately where if i don't have to go into work, fuck bathing. it's winter and i've got short hair though.

― j blount (papa la bas), Thursday, 17 November 2005 19:35 (twenty years ago)

This thread gives and gives.

I really can't stand Keyshawn Johnson for some reason.

― Gravel Puzzleworth (Gregory Henry), Thursday, 17 November 2005 19:38 (twenty years ago)

I like the idea of Blount just quoting from Rabbit, Run all the time.

― jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 17 November 2005 19:39 (twenty years ago)

I don't always bother taking a shower before work, either, to be honest. I mean, it's just work. It's not like I'm going to the prom or something.

― Allyzay must fight Zolton herself. (allyzay), Thursday, 17 November 2005 19:45 (twenty years ago)

i have to take a shower every day actually or i feel funny all day.

― strongo hulkington's ghost (dubplatestyle), Thursday, 17 November 2005 19:46 (twenty years ago)

I don't sweat very heavily. I also don't wake up very early.

― Allyzay must fight Zolton herself. (allyzay), Thursday, 17 November 2005 19:47 (twenty years ago)

Also, Keyshawn Johnson is a huge, huge ass.

― Allyzay must fight Zolton herself. (allyzay), Thursday, 17 November 2005 19:48 (twenty years ago)

I understand that it is primarily a psychological reaction but if I don't shower at least once within a 24 hour period, I feel like a walking oil slick.

― Dan (Also There Is The Suggestion Of CHAFING) Perry (Dan Perry), Thursday, 17 November 2005 19:48 (twenty years ago)

sometimes i take two showers a day. take that, future of man.

― strongo hulkington's ghost (dubplatestyle), Thursday, 17 November 2005 19:49 (twenty years ago)

depends how late i'm running, i shave in the shower and hate having scruff on my face cuz those dudes are always such assholes. ILX confession: sometimes though i'll be super lazy and like not shave for like four days and then i'll have all that shit on my face and like 5% of the time when i shave it i briefly entertain the notion of leaving/trying to grow a van dyck and then i'll recall one of the ilx dudes who post pix of themselves on those 'whattya look like now? what about now? and now?' threads (god there's like fifteen of those dudes for every hot luna level pic)(much luv 2 them dudes btw, nate esp) and shudder and shave that shit right off.

― j blount (papa la bas), Thursday, 17 November 2005 19:52 (twenty years ago)

the term is "ambitious facial hair"

― Allyzay must fight Zolton herself. (allyzay), Thursday, 17 November 2005 19:54 (twenty years ago)

(For those keeping score, the shudder is the point where Blount is achieving orgasm.)

― Dan ('Bingo') Perry (Dan Perry), Thursday, 17 November 2005 19:54 (twenty years ago)

plz none of these dudes are noah wyle (am i right ally?)

― j blount (papa la bas), Thursday, 17 November 2005 19:56 (twenty years ago)

i love my beard. let your freak flag fly, blount.

― strongo hulkington's ghost (dubplatestyle), Thursday, 17 November 2005 19:56 (twenty years ago)

Seriously! If that's what TO is gonna turn into under Parcells he should just go to the Cardinals or somewhere and spend the next ten years feeling misunderstood and, like, owning a beach or something.

I am pretty fastidious about showering 'cos I used to NEVER do it when I ws fourteen and got rightly teased but that deliberate cultivating dirty rock hair thing kinda works way too well to not do.

― Gravel Puzzleworth (Gregory Henry), Thursday, 17 November 2005 19:58 (twenty years ago)

Not shaving does not make you an asshole, it just maybe makes you someone who doesn't like shaving and is maybe lucky enough to have a job where they don't care all that much and a wife who is indulgent of scruff. For example.

Also, COURTNEY LOVE.

― gypsy mothra (gypsy mothra), Thursday, 17 November 2005 19:59 (twenty years ago)

Ok guys I don't really have a thing for Noah Wyle, I'm serious.

― Allyzay must fight Zolton herself. (allyzay), Thursday, 17 November 2005 20:00 (twenty years ago)

Terrell Owens has kind of got 18x the attitude problem that Keyshawn has though, I mean let's be honest about that. Keyshawn never punched nobody on his own team (that I know of). They should maybe fight each other and sell it on PPV?

― Allyzay must fight Zolton herself. (allyzay), Thursday, 17 November 2005 20:01 (twenty years ago)

yeah i'm with jess and dan, i hafta shower every day or i feel weird.

― jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 17 November 2005 20:02 (twenty years ago)

please dont say you're "with me" when you talk about showering

― strongo hulkington's ghost (dubplatestyle), Thursday, 17 November 2005 20:03 (twenty years ago)

Wait, not shaving makes you Courtney Love???????

― Dan (Methinks Ally Doth Protest Too Much) Perry (Dan Perry), Thursday, 17 November 2005 20:03 (twenty years ago)

He is kind of like a Keanu Reeves-y weasel.

― Allyzay must fight Zolton herself. (allyzay), Thursday, 17 November 2005 20:04 (twenty years ago)

So that's a weasel-y weasel?

― Dan (Rodent Superstar, That Is What You Are) Perry (Dan Perry), Thursday, 17 November 2005 20:05 (twenty years ago)

gypsy i wore a green lantern t-shirt to work yesterday - they don't care if i shave. also, i wore a green lantern t-shirt to work yesterday - i don't have a wife.

― j blount (papa la bas), Thursday, 17 November 2005 20:06 (twenty years ago)

in spirit, jess. in spirit.

― jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 17 November 2005 20:06 (twenty years ago)

great, now i have to wear a pair of jams every time i shower

― strongo hulkington's ghost (dubplatestyle), Thursday, 17 November 2005 20:07 (twenty years ago)

haha jess is a 'never-nude'

― j blount (papa la bas), Thursday, 17 November 2005 20:08 (twenty years ago)

not true. just ask my poor old neighbors.

― strongo hulkington's ghost (dubplatestyle), Thursday, 17 November 2005 20:08 (twenty years ago)

http://entimg.msn.com/i/mu/j/jessicasimpson/JessicaSimpson_Christmas_150x200.jpg VS http://news.bbc.co.uk/media/images/38225000/jpg/_38225326_arvil.jpg

― Dan (?) Perry (Dan Perry), Thursday, 17 November 2005 20:10 (twenty years ago)

the latter

― strongo hulkington's ghost (dubplatestyle), Thursday, 17 November 2005 20:11 (twenty years ago)

tho its a bit like plastic fruit vs. a whole onion

― strongo hulkington's ghost (dubplatestyle), Thursday, 17 November 2005 20:11 (twenty years ago)

i would totally go for toucan sam's whole onion

― j blount (papa la bas), Thursday, 17 November 2005 20:12 (twenty years ago)

i am a NIGHT SHOWERER!

― s1ocki (slutsky), Thursday, 17 November 2005 20:14 (twenty years ago)

I don't understand that plastic onion thing.

― Allyzay must fight Zolton herself. (allyzay), Thursday, 17 November 2005 20:25 (twenty years ago)

i think it means blount wants to munch on ashlee simpson's box

― strongo hulkington's ghost (dubplatestyle), Thursday, 17 November 2005 20:31 (twenty years ago)

You guys are fuckin gross.

― Allyzay must fight Zolton herself. (allyzay), Thursday, 17 November 2005 20:32 (twenty years ago)

don't shoot the translator

― strongo hulkington's ghost (dubplatestyle), Thursday, 17 November 2005 20:33 (twenty years ago)

jess otm, i wanna knaw on her slaw

― j blount (papa la bas), Thursday, 17 November 2005 20:42 (twenty years ago)

Well, she's better than Jessica at least.

― Allyzay must fight Zolton herself. (allyzay), Thursday, 17 November 2005 20:51 (twenty years ago)

except that pic upthread is avril, not ashlee!

― elmo (allocryptic), Thursday, 17 November 2005 21:01 (twenty years ago)

duh she is the median betwixt the two

― j blount (papa la bas), Thursday, 17 November 2005 21:02 (twenty years ago)

I know that is Avril, but blount brought up the third entity of Toucan Sam.

― Allyzay must fight Zolton herself. (allyzay), Thursday, 17 November 2005 21:06 (twenty years ago)

gypsy i wore a green lantern t-shirt to work yesterday - they don't care if i shave.

so you just don't like being scruffy? I understand that, I just don't mind a little fuzz and I really really don't like shaving. But I also don't like beards, so shaving every 3-4 days is about the happiest I can be. Men have been ruled too long by the tyranny of the smooth cheek.

― gypsy mothra (gypsy mothra), Thursday, 17 November 2005 21:20 (twenty years ago)

i grew my beard back for a couple of weeks but then shaved it off again this morning. i think because my hair is getting longer: shaggy hair with a smooth face presents a nice contrast, whereas shaggy hair with a scraggly beard makes me look like a fucking slob.

― jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 17 November 2005 21:22 (twenty years ago)

night showers for me, too, or i get the greaseball feeling Dan mentioned.

and my handlebars moustache will never come off. it will haunt the userpic threads til the end of all of our days.

― kingfish hobo juckie (kingfish 2.0), Thursday, 17 November 2005 21:23 (twenty years ago)

No one else can follow (or will acknowledge) my arcane neural map. :-(

― Dan ("With You" vs "I'm With You" WRT To Jess's Showering-With-Jaymc-Phobia) Per, Thursday, 17 November 2005 21:24 (twenty years ago)

"With You"?

― Allyzay must fight Zolton herself. (allyzay), Thursday, 17 November 2005 21:39 (twenty years ago)

opening the ysi thread in ilm just tried to redirect me to a site called gagging whores... being somewhat net saavy i think i could safely say that this would have nothing to do with the fact that a person on my wireless network goes to this site, right? pornographic coincidence at the hands of the ilx meanie.

― firstworldman (firstworldman), Thursday, 17 November 2005 21:40 (twenty years ago)

Pointless note: I've discovered if I shave my 'stache, and the hair underneath my chin line I can get away with "stylish" fuzz on the cheeks for a few days at the time. I like really cheap razors, because I can use them three or four times and throw them out without feeling bad.

― Remy (x Jeremy), Friday, 18 November 2005 07:12 (twenty years ago)

Wow, when did this thread become TOTALLY AWESOME?

― Pashmina (Pashmina), Friday, 18 November 2005 09:17 (twenty years ago)

When Ally arrived.

― Andrew Farrell (afarrell), Friday, 18 November 2005 11:36 (twenty years ago)

Good morning! How are you guys today? I came up with a question when I was on the train today: Has anyone ever used "Down Under" by Men at Work as their wedding song? What would that be like? Would it be funny or just sad? NB I am not planning on doing this. Not when "We Like To Party" exists.

― Allyzay must fight Zolton herself. (allyzay), Friday, 18 November 2005 15:04 (twenty years ago)

The VengaBus? It's coming!!!

― Tantrum The Cat (Tantrum The Cat), Friday, 18 November 2005 15:07 (twenty years ago)

Please tell me the VengaBus is coming to the wedding.

― tokyo nursery school: afternoon session (rosemary), Friday, 18 November 2005 15:10 (twenty years ago)

I'm working on it.

― Allyzay must fight Zolton herself. (allyzay), Friday, 18 November 2005 15:14 (twenty years ago)

What about the Ally/Luna collabo? Did I blink and miss it?

― k/l (Ken L), Friday, 18 November 2005 16:15 (twenty years ago)

Oh I had to run and the moment was lost :(

We can try again, though.

― Allyzay must fight Zolton herself. (allyzay), Friday, 18 November 2005 16:16 (twenty years ago)

Such an amazing thread. And of course showering at least once a day = urgent and key unless you are some horrible person.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 18 November 2005 16:23 (twenty years ago)

Ned not all of us have 16 feet of hair to care for!!

― Allyzay must fight Zolton herself. (allyzay), Friday, 18 November 2005 16:25 (twenty years ago)

But Ned, you don't *wash* your hair every day as well, do you?

I will be going back to short hair soon and am looking forward to hair washing being less of a chore than it is now.

― MindInRewind (Barry Bruner), Friday, 18 November 2005 16:49 (twenty years ago)

Wednesday, November 16, 2005
Internet Message Board Trolls

People say "just ignore them". So you try.

And then they hassle you and hassle you, and harrass and borderline stalk you, escalating (sometimes to the point of destroying whole messageboards) until they've finally pissed you off. So you explode.

And then it's all "Bad Kate for responding!" rather than "Bad troll for being such a stalkerfreak in the first place."

Update:

When you ask them not to post gigantic 1000px pictures on your threads, they respond with "turn images off ::insult:: or get a bigger monitor". When you ask them not to sploodge your threads with several hundred identical posts in a row, they reply "what's wrong with your scrollbars ::insult::?"

What's wrong is WHY SHOULD HUNDREDS OF OTHER USERS ADJUST THEIR SETTINGS, CHANGE THEIR HARDWARE, THEIR COMPUTERS, BECAUSE YOU CANNOT CONTROL YOURSELF ENOUGH TO FOLLOW A FEW GUIDELINES OF SIMPLE NETIQUETTE?!?!?!?

The arrogance and the stupidity is just staggering.

posted by Masonic Boom @ 3:13 PM

― Estefan C. Buttez, Esq. (ESTEFAN!), Saturday, 19 November 2005 15:39 (twenty years ago)

But Ned, you don't *wash* your hair every day as well, do you?

Of course I do!

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Saturday, 19 November 2005 15:43 (twenty years ago)

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