Chicago. Wow.

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Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Monday, 16 January 2006 16:18 (nineteen years ago)

Ha. That's a good one.

The Milkmaid (of human kindness) (The Milkmaid), Monday, 16 January 2006 16:20 (nineteen years ago)

Thank you. *bows*

Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Monday, 16 January 2006 16:21 (nineteen years ago)

I like Moby Grape approximately 50% of the time.

The Milkmaid (of human kindness) (The Milkmaid), Monday, 16 January 2006 16:22 (nineteen years ago)

I've never seen that cover, but I like it. It reminds me of In the Aeroplane Over the Sea.

http://www.the-wood.org/Aeroplane.jpg

jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 16 January 2006 16:24 (nineteen years ago)

xpost Well, the record doesn't have to be good. Just the cover.

Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Monday, 16 January 2006 16:25 (nineteen years ago)

jaymc... yes, totally!

Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Monday, 16 January 2006 16:25 (nineteen years ago)

This chicory tea, I have to say, is really quite good. I was skeptical about its ability to substitute for coffee, flavor-wise, but I think it works. Better than chai or rooibos, at least.

jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 16 January 2006 16:28 (nineteen years ago)

Interesting. I love chicory coffee.

I think our homebrew might be...molding. :(

Jordan (Jordan), Monday, 16 January 2006 16:30 (nineteen years ago)

it has character now.

Think of all the great things that are moldy! Cheese! Penicillin! Um... that's all I got.

Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Monday, 16 January 2006 16:37 (nineteen years ago)

Mushrooms!

The Milkmaid (of human kindness) (The Milkmaid), Monday, 16 January 2006 16:38 (nineteen years ago)

It's got this white stuff on top that, you know, MIGHT be toxic mold, or it might just be normal yeast byproduct. No idea.

Jordan (Jordan), Monday, 16 January 2006 16:41 (nineteen years ago)

Wait, mushrooms aren't mold. They're fungus. That's not the same thing. Is it?

The Milkmaid (of human kindness) (The Milkmaid), Monday, 16 January 2006 16:42 (nineteen years ago)

It's probably natural. Like tempeh.

kelsey (kelstarry), Monday, 16 January 2006 16:42 (nineteen years ago)

I just read the wikipedia entry on tempeh. I had no idea.

Jordan (Jordan), Monday, 16 January 2006 16:51 (nineteen years ago)

kelsey hahahaha

yeah, probably.

Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Monday, 16 January 2006 16:52 (nineteen years ago)

"Especially vegetarians and vegans find the structure and protein content interesting."

http://www.tempeh.info/

Wow. How interesting. Protein. Maybe now I'll stop losing weight and start urinating again.

Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Monday, 16 January 2006 16:58 (nineteen years ago)

I've always thought that the Arcade fire album ripped off Neutral Milk Hotel's aesthetic.

Sarah Kittensmew McLusky (coco), Monday, 16 January 2006 17:00 (nineteen years ago)

I find tempeh and its proteins interesting. Particularly in stir fries and sandwiches.

The Milkmaid (of human kindness) (The Milkmaid), Monday, 16 January 2006 17:01 (nineteen years ago)

Reading about tempeh makes me want to eat a lot of it. I think it should have the opposite effect, especially since some pictures of the fermentation process are less appetizing, but whatever.
Kenan, dare I ask about the protein/urinating thing?

kelsey (kelstarry), Monday, 16 January 2006 17:01 (nineteen years ago)

I've always thought that Neutral Milk Hotel was incredibly annoying. I may be the only one.

Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Monday, 16 January 2006 17:02 (nineteen years ago)

I really like tempeh!

gbx (skowly), Monday, 16 January 2006 17:04 (nineteen years ago)

And, heads up guys, "Neutral Milk Hotel" is a really stupid fucking band name. Why didn't anyone tell them this? Don't they have friends?

Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Monday, 16 January 2006 17:04 (nineteen years ago)

re: NMH
I never liked it/them?him? much. I sort of missed that whole thing. I never got into Modest Mouse either.

The Milkmaid (of human kindness) (The Milkmaid), Monday, 16 January 2006 17:05 (nineteen years ago)

I bought the first NMH album (On Avery Island) and didn't like it much, so I didn't bother at all with Aeroplane, despite that being the one that ended up with all of the accolades (Magnet named it best album of the 90s). I've heard it a couple of times since, because certain friends drool over it, but I've decided it's not really my thing.

jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 16 January 2006 17:09 (nineteen years ago)

I meant to say Arcade Fire ripped off their album look, not sound, just so you know...

I liked NMH, but I'm all into bratty boy vocals. Also, I loved his lyrics.

Sarah Kittensmew McLusky (coco), Monday, 16 January 2006 17:10 (nineteen years ago)

So I'm not alone! Thank heavens!

I'm all into bratty boy vocals

Yeah, I like that aesthetic, too (see: Modest Mouse) but this dude needs to be punched in the nads.

Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Monday, 16 January 2006 17:14 (nineteen years ago)

I love some NMH songs (Holland 1945, for example), and some of it is meh. My roommate, however, will maintain to the bitter end, that they are basically the Best Band of All Time. Not favoritest, but that Aeroplane is an Important Album of Considerable Consequence.

gbx (skowly), Monday, 16 January 2006 17:16 (nineteen years ago)

http://neutralmilkhotel.net/promo2.jpg

Would these guys have any friends????

I love Neutral Milk Hotel, but I will probably never ever listen to their albums again. Time and place.

That one guy is my neck beard hero.

Jeff. (Jeff), Monday, 16 January 2006 17:20 (nineteen years ago)

The Cult of Jeff Mangum does turn me off a bit.

jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 16 January 2006 17:21 (nineteen years ago)

an Important Album of Considerable Consequence.

That's a great album title.

Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Monday, 16 January 2006 17:22 (nineteen years ago)

...for Dave Egger's solo debut.

Jordan (Jordan), Monday, 16 January 2006 17:31 (nineteen years ago)

haha. that would be horrible.

The Milkmaid (of human kindness) (The Milkmaid), Monday, 16 January 2006 17:32 (nineteen years ago)

hahahaha

Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Monday, 16 January 2006 17:32 (nineteen years ago)

Hey -- Golden Globes tonight. Don't forget. It's the awards show where everybody drinks!

http://www.hfpa.org/nominations/index.html

To look at those nominations, you'd think it was a crappy year for both film and TV, but actually it was a great year for both.

Still. Drunk actors. Have a wine and cheese party.

Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Monday, 16 January 2006 17:36 (nineteen years ago)

What was it Jack Nicholson said a couple years ago?... "I've had a couple of valium..."

(Which is exactly what that thirteen year old girl said in his bedroom right before Roman Polanski did her in the butt.)

Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Monday, 16 January 2006 17:39 (nineteen years ago)

I'm going to get some lunch. But here's a Salon article worth sitting through the ad for. I promise.

http://www.salon.com/books/int/2006/01/14/stratton/

Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Monday, 16 January 2006 17:42 (nineteen years ago)

You can eat after writing that last sentence about Roman Polanski?

The Milkmaid (of human kindness) (The Milkmaid), Monday, 16 January 2006 17:42 (nineteen years ago)

I censored myself about Roman Polanski!

Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Monday, 16 January 2006 17:43 (nineteen years ago)

And you still ended up with "...doing her in the butt?"


gbx (skowly), Monday, 16 January 2006 17:45 (nineteen years ago)

wow indeed.

Juulia (julesbdules), Monday, 16 January 2006 17:48 (nineteen years ago)

I'm tempted, but I will refrain from using prison sex metaphors.

Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Monday, 16 January 2006 17:49 (nineteen years ago)

Haha.

I'm going to go home and make pizza.

Jordan (Jordan), Monday, 16 January 2006 17:57 (nineteen years ago)

Hey Sarah, how does Nick like his new job? I envy those hours.

The Milkmaid (of human kindness) (The Milkmaid), Monday, 16 January 2006 18:13 (nineteen years ago)

If anyone wants to give me some feedback on the abstract I'm proposing to the pop-music conference in Seattle, you can e-mail me and I'll send it to you. It's only about 200 words, I just want to make sure it a) makes sense and b) sounds interesting.

jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 16 January 2006 18:21 (nineteen years ago)

I can give feedback.

gbx (skowly), Monday, 16 January 2006 18:32 (nineteen years ago)

gbx, I don't think I have your e-mail...?

jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 16 January 2006 18:41 (nineteen years ago)

Is this the EMP conference? I'll read it. Do they accept academic papers if they're about music?

The Milkmaid (of human kindness) (The Milkmaid), Monday, 16 January 2006 18:44 (nineteen years ago)

Yes, and yes.

jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 16 January 2006 18:48 (nineteen years ago)

I'll read it too.

Jordan (Jordan), Monday, 16 January 2006 19:16 (nineteen years ago)

I just went home, made a small pizza with olives, basil leaves and mozzarella, and read Age of Bronze for half an hour. I should do this every day.

Jordan (Jordan), Monday, 16 January 2006 19:19 (nineteen years ago)

That sounds wonderful.

Nick loves his new job, Manda, though he hopes to start getting more hours sooner than later. Some upsides to his shorter hours:
* He often washes the dishes in the afternoon!
* He picks me up from work!
* He goes to the gym without me sometimes, which is great because I'm lazy!

Sarah Kittensmew McLusky (coco), Monday, 16 January 2006 19:24 (nineteen years ago)

x-post

In that case, I think you're going to have to get Eric Shanower to ramp up production on those books, dude. Sounds nice tho.

Chris F. (servoret), Monday, 16 January 2006 19:25 (nineteen years ago)

How often does it actually come out? I saw that there at two trades out, at least.

(I started a thread on ILC so we can move this there if you want)

Jordan (Jordan), Monday, 16 January 2006 19:30 (nineteen years ago)

xpost - Ooh, getting picked up from work is NICE. Also, dishes! I'm fantasizing about a new job, but in the meantime I have to prove my worth at this one. We have performance reviews next week. Let's hope that "internet usage" isn't on the agenda.

The Milkmaid (of human kindness) (The Milkmaid), Monday, 16 January 2006 19:31 (nineteen years ago)

Speaking of internet usage: I am broadcasting live from Big Hair on Roscoe! What a time to live!

gbx (skowly), Monday, 16 January 2006 19:37 (nineteen years ago)

Does anyone think that a good reality tv show idea is to throw a bunch of people in a house that met over the internet?

kelsey (kelstarry), Monday, 16 January 2006 19:39 (nineteen years ago)

That IS a good idea!

gbx (skowly), Monday, 16 January 2006 19:47 (nineteen years ago)

ChiLX wouldn't be a good candidate, though. It would have to be people that ONLY knew each other over the nets, and meeting each other for the very first time.

gbx (skowly), Monday, 16 January 2006 19:48 (nineteen years ago)

like d & d folks or some kind of online gamers? don't steal my idea, guys! i'm gonna make MILLIONS

kelsey (kelstarry), Monday, 16 January 2006 19:49 (nineteen years ago)

That would be awesome.

The Milkmaid (of human kindness) (The Milkmaid), Monday, 16 January 2006 19:50 (nineteen years ago)

The new Fox hit, INTERNET MARRIAGE!

Jordan (Jordan), Monday, 16 January 2006 19:50 (nineteen years ago)

Hmmm. I dragged Jesse to a bar with me the other night and then had to explain to my "real-life" friends there how I knew him.

jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 16 January 2006 19:51 (nineteen years ago)

My friend Evan is ennnnnndlessly amused when I meet people in other cities that I only know from ILX.

Jordan (Jordan), Monday, 16 January 2006 19:52 (nineteen years ago)

The point with Jesse is that I don't know him from the Internet. (If I did, I'd have no problem with saying "we met online" -- although I suppose that would add fuel to everyone's theory that he wanted to get with me.) I know him because he knows other people that I know from the Internet. This seemed awkward to state.

jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 16 January 2006 19:56 (nineteen years ago)

I will say that Leaf doesn't understand my relationship with ILX. I think he once said that it may be a "generation gap" between us, even if he's only three years older. That said, of the ILX folks he's met, he has liked all of them.

kelsey (kelstarry), Monday, 16 January 2006 19:58 (nineteen years ago)

To be honest, I don't know if I would've understood it three years ago.

jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 16 January 2006 20:00 (nineteen years ago)

What about "we met through mutual friends"?

My "real life" friends don't understand ILX either. Dan just thinks I'm a geek, but he's a geek too, so it's no biggie. He's not prone to joining in though. He's also not really prone to all-day chatting, like I am.

The Milkmaid (of human kindness) (The Milkmaid), Monday, 16 January 2006 20:00 (nineteen years ago)

What about "we met through mutual friends"?

I said that, but then I felt like I needed to explain who these mutual friends were.

jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 16 January 2006 20:02 (nineteen years ago)

I often avoid the whole ILX explanation by saying, "Oh! I met him/her/them (ILX person) through him/her/them (another ILX person they might know or have heard me mention)." Basically, you don't have to explain everything back to the beginning of time.

Sarah Kittensmew McLusky (coco), Monday, 16 January 2006 20:03 (nineteen years ago)

Jenny begat Jesse.

jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 16 January 2006 20:05 (nineteen years ago)

haha

Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Monday, 16 January 2006 20:07 (nineteen years ago)

I always tell people that I met Nick & Sarah through John. I don't know how to explain Amanda, though. In more ways than one! Kidding!!

kelsey (kelstarry), Monday, 16 January 2006 20:21 (nineteen years ago)

1. On the other thread, Jordan says he just heard Sufjan for the first time. Well, I've been listening to WLUW on my commute a lot lately and I heard that Sufjan John Wayne Gacy song last week and I decided it sounded like a Xiu Xiu song but with shitty music and a total lack of self-awareness of how ridiculous he's being (that's a bad thing).
2. Also on the other thread, gib. asked what was going on tonight. There's some stand-up comedy fest thing at the Hideout tonight and Rob Buscemi is performing.
3. I like Neutral Milk Hotel a lot, esp. In the Aeroplane... It's one of the few "emotional" bands that I listen to a lot. I like his voice and his lyrics and his general aesthetic (playing acoustic but not like a wuss).
4. I got this Skeletons and the Girl-Faced Boys cd the other day and I would like to recommend it to all of you, but especially John and Jeff. Dense keyboardy pop weirdness.
5. Could I convince all of you to hang out with me this weekend?

n/a (Nick A.), Monday, 16 January 2006 20:29 (nineteen years ago)

6. F@ke F1ctions at the Beat Kitchen on Thurs.

n/a (Nick A.), Monday, 16 January 2006 20:32 (nineteen years ago)

xpost - Haha. There's really no excuse for me. You met me ON THE INTERNET.

The Milkmaid (of human kindness) (The Milkmaid), Monday, 16 January 2006 20:32 (nineteen years ago)

Alas, my only companion this weekend will be the International Phonetic Alphabet.

The Milkmaid (of human kindness) (The Milkmaid), Monday, 16 January 2006 20:34 (nineteen years ago)

4. I got this Skeletons and the Girl-Faced Boys cd the other day and I would like to recommend it to all of you, but especially John and Jeff. Dense keyboardy pop weirdness.

What a coinkidink -- not an hour ago, I got an e-mail from Matt P. saying "Have you ever heard Skeletons and the Girl-Faced Boys? I think you would like them." The answer is no, I have not heard them, but I have been curious about them for a while, and if you would like to make me a copy of the album, I would not turn it down. I have copies of my best-of-2005 mix for anyone who wants it.

jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 16 January 2006 20:34 (nineteen years ago)

You still owe me a Steely Dan mix.

n/a (Nick A.), Monday, 16 January 2006 20:36 (nineteen years ago)

Hey Nick, on the strength of your recommendation I bought that Belize comp -- I'm waiting for it to arrive in the mail. I listened to samples on the Numero Group website and wanted to buy everything they've released. I even thought about getting the annual subscription but stopped myself because I don't have $90 to spend on as-yet-unreleased music I've never heard before. But I wanted to.

The Milkmaid (of human kindness) (The Milkmaid), Monday, 16 January 2006 20:37 (nineteen years ago)

Argh! The hideout is tonight?! fuck. this class is going to be the death of me. tonight's my only free night & i need to do more homework-y type stuff. sucks balls.

kelsey (kelstarry), Monday, 16 January 2006 20:38 (nineteen years ago)

You still owe me a Steely Dan mix.

Comin' right up. Will do.

jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 16 January 2006 20:40 (nineteen years ago)

who all is going to the hideout tonight?

kelsey (kelstarry), Monday, 16 January 2006 20:43 (nineteen years ago)

Can't -- I have band practice.

jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 16 January 2006 20:45 (nineteen years ago)

I kind of want to go to the Hideout tonight, though we were just there Sat. night.

n/a (Nick A.), Monday, 16 January 2006 20:46 (nineteen years ago)

I guess I could stop by after band practice, but that might not be until 11 pm, and I don't know when Rob is going on stage.

jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 16 January 2006 20:54 (nineteen years ago)

This DangerDoom album rules.

n/a (Nick A.), Monday, 16 January 2006 20:58 (nineteen years ago)

FF's at the BK on Thurs? The FFs are my housemate AbbyG's favorite, favorite current band and she is moving to SF at the end of the Mo., so I hope she'll get to see you guys.

Guess what I watched tonight (thanks to E.'s TiVo)? That's right - SHERIFF. Man, that was great. The thing I love about documentaries with no narration or clear authorial presence is having no idea how Mr. Manda found this guy, convinced him to let him follow him around, etc. Has Weisman seen this movie? I bet he would hand over the Cinema Verite crown upon deceasement.

Eazy (Eazy), Monday, 16 January 2006 21:07 (nineteen years ago)

Hey, is anyone else a fan of Patricia Barber? She's back to playing the Green Mill on Monday nights, and her band plays some of the best live jazz I've ever seen (it's pretty good on record, but pretty amazingg live). I may go tonight, or on a Monday soon - pipe up if you want to join.

Eazy (Eazy), Monday, 16 January 2006 21:11 (nineteen years ago)

Hey, thanks Eazy! I'll tell Dan. I'm so glad you liked it! There was a point where we knew someone who knew Wiseman -- D. sent him (Wiseman) a tape and he was supposed to watch it, but who knows if he ever did.

The Milkmaid (of human kindness) (The Milkmaid), Monday, 16 January 2006 21:14 (nineteen years ago)

I like the Skeletons and the Girl-Faced Boys album a lot, need to listen to it again.

Nick is correct about Danger Doom. Benzie Box rocks.

Jeff. (Jeff), Monday, 16 January 2006 21:15 (nineteen years ago)

My parents love Patricia Barber -- I'd def. like to check her out someday.

jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 16 January 2006 21:16 (nineteen years ago)

His warning speeches to the various people involved in the backroom gaming machines were my favorite part. He's such an articulate guy - I guess cops can't really afford to put much ambiguity in what they say.

Eazy (Eazy), Monday, 16 January 2006 21:17 (nineteen years ago)

ez, i'll totally go with you some monday night. esp. if i don't have a test on tuesday!

kelsey (kelstarry), Monday, 16 January 2006 21:22 (nineteen years ago)

xpot - Yeah, definitely. My favorite line is: "See that Jessica? That's called turkey droppins. A turkey made that."

The Milkmaid (of human kindness) (The Milkmaid), Monday, 16 January 2006 21:23 (nineteen years ago)

i loved his sense of pride in his work. during the gaming scene, he was abundantly clear that he was being a nice, polite & reasonable guy. yet, he was firm enough so no one would fuck around with him!

kelsey (kelstarry), Monday, 16 January 2006 21:25 (nineteen years ago)

which movie should i see first? syrianna, munich or match point?

kelsey (kelstarry), Monday, 16 January 2006 21:26 (nineteen years ago)

xpost - Oh yeah -- I liked the part where he said to tell the owner of the video gambling place that he was a gentleman -- he totally was. He was gonna take the money, give it to the Sheriff's department to fund law enforcement and shut the establishment down. And that's what happened. No funny stuff. There's a fun interview with Hewett on the Independent Lens website if you wanna read it. Also, feel free to add comments to the "talkback" section -- and vote for audience favorite!

/end plugging

The Milkmaid (of human kindness) (The Milkmaid), Monday, 16 January 2006 21:32 (nineteen years ago)

Syriana looks more intriguing than Munich, but less entertaining than Match Point.

Sheriff looks more interesting than all of them.

gbx (skowly), Monday, 16 January 2006 21:33 (nineteen years ago)

I liked Munich but was surprised at how little it was about the 1972 Olympics -- I didn't really know the premise of it going in.

jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 16 January 2006 21:39 (nineteen years ago)

ha! i just told my friend that i was partial to the other two .. .. ..

kelsey (kelstarry), Monday, 16 January 2006 21:42 (nineteen years ago)

It looks like there are 2 comedy shows at the hideout tonight. Buscemi is playing the 9pm, FYI. (So I doubt Nick and I will go since he has to be up at an ungodly hour the next morning)

Sarah Kittensmew McLusky (coco), Monday, 16 January 2006 21:52 (nineteen years ago)

I liked Syriana more than Munich, but was glad I saw both.

Eazy (Eazy), Monday, 16 January 2006 22:14 (nineteen years ago)

i'd vote syriana, but i haven't seen any of them yet.

Juulia (julesbdules), Monday, 16 January 2006 22:15 (nineteen years ago)

I read that Syriana was confusing. I have trouble keeping up with movies sometimes when there is a barrage of information.

jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 16 January 2006 22:17 (nineteen years ago)

I want to see Syriana eventually.

Off topic! Gross, watch out... ILX, please play doctor with me:
I have had this weird CRUSTY NOSE thing going on for the past THREE weeks. It gets all clogged up, but I can't blow my nose. Ok, I'll try to blow my nose or I'll sneeze randomly maybe a handful of times a day, but mostly my nose is clogged up but also DRY. It looks horrible. Also, it's scary because I don't like not being able to breathe through my nose. So all day I'm sneaking off to the bathroom to pick at my nose because I can't blow it out. This basically involves peeling off the interior of my nose, so then it becomse a bunch of dried snot and dried blood all mixed together. I don't have any other cold symptoms. I got a humidifier which I've used every night for about a week. I sleep alot better. Before I was waking up in a panic not being able to breathe. I tried to go all day yesterday not touching my nose, but by the end of the day it was still all gross and bloody and yuck yuck yuck looking/feeling.

So I just looked online and it said that you should go to the doctor to rule out a nasal tumour. I don't want nose cancer!

Basically, I just want at least one of you to say, oh, that's happened to me before, just do this this this and it will go away.

Thanks.

Sarah Kittensmew McLusky (coco), Monday, 16 January 2006 22:28 (nineteen years ago)

Jenny begat Jesse.

Gross.

Nutsy the Squirrel (pullapartgirl), Monday, 16 January 2006 22:30 (nineteen years ago)

Um, Sarah, that's never happened to me before. But it sounds like you've got a bad case of DRY NOSE. Maybe you could try using some saline spray throughout the day? It's like snorting salt water but not quite as alarming. Also, DRINK MORE WATER.

No, seriously. That should help your mucus membranes not dry out.

Also, is there anything at work or home that would be irritating your nose? Dust or anything? Maybe it's an allergy.

Nutsy the Squirrel (pullapartgirl), Monday, 16 January 2006 22:32 (nineteen years ago)

I agree with Dr. Nutsy.

kelsey (kelstarry), Monday, 16 January 2006 22:39 (nineteen years ago)

Yeah, it's winter. Drink more.

gbx (skowly), Monday, 16 January 2006 22:42 (nineteen years ago)

Me too. Drink more water, sit near the humidifier, try not to pick.

The Milkmaid (of human kindness) (The Milkmaid), Monday, 16 January 2006 22:46 (nineteen years ago)

I just sent in the proposal: I'll know by February 1 if it was accepted! Thanks to everyone for comments...

jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 16 January 2006 22:51 (nineteen years ago)

Sorry I didn't get any comments to you, John. I've been out all day (since you emailed me)

gbx (skowly), Monday, 16 January 2006 22:56 (nineteen years ago)

I've been WORKING all day. In another room with other people, so I couldn't check e-mail and ILX every few minutes.

I like Patricia Barber. She can be a little corny and she's the ultimate clever, literary, momjazz singer, but she has good bands on record and her piano playing is refreshingly restrained.

Jordan (Jordan), Monday, 16 January 2006 22:56 (nineteen years ago)

Momjazz. Haha. That's cute. My dad likes momjazz.

The Milkmaid (of human kindness) (The Milkmaid), Monday, 16 January 2006 22:57 (nineteen years ago)

Evan owes me a Steely Dan comp. Jaymc, I'll bring up your name when he finally gets around to forming his SD tribute band.

Jordan (Jordan), Monday, 16 January 2006 22:57 (nineteen years ago)

Please do!

And Other Evan, it's okay -- I'd still be interested in hearing your thoughts, even if I can't fix anything. (Of course, if the paper is accepted, then I'll take them into consideration as I write it.)

jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 16 January 2006 22:58 (nineteen years ago)

The thing about seeing Barber live is seeing her restraint as a player, and her complete abandonment within some very deliberate choices -- there's a tension that's there visually that isn't captured on her recording (same thing is true of The Dears, strangely). Also, just from the look on her face, it's clear that she's very sensitive to when her sidemen or guests, during a song, take a step away from performing the song and into wankery - and she's clearly tough on herself about this as well. I think she's a lot darker and more interesting than 'momjazz' (especially compared to Diana Krall or Brad Meldhau) - she's more on the Keith Jarrett end of accessible jazz, for sure. (Her lyrics are a whole other story - I'm not crazy about them, but she's so good as a pianist that the rest is forgivable.)

Eazy (Eazy), Monday, 16 January 2006 23:24 (nineteen years ago)

Diana Krall is totally momjazz, haha.

jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 16 January 2006 23:44 (nineteen years ago)

My own Steely Dan comp (cut and pasted straight outta iTunes, sorry if it's a little messy):

Do It Again 5:54 Steely Dan Can't Buy a Thrill
Fire in the Hole 3:27 Steely Dan Can't Buy a Thrill
Kings 3:47 Steely Dan Can't Buy a Thrill
Only a Fool Would Say That 2:57 Steely Dan Can't Buy a Thrill
Reelin' In The Years 4:37 Steely Dan Can't Buy a Thrill
My Old School 5:47 Steely Dan Countdown To Ecstacy
Your Gold Teeth 7:02 Steely Dan Countdown To Ecstacy
Razor Boy 3:11 Steely Dan Countdown To Ecstasy 1973
Rikki Don't Lose That Number 4:32 Steely Dan Pretzel Logic
Any Major Dude Will Tell You 3:06 Steely Dan Pretzel Logic
Pretzel Logic 4:32 Steely Dan Pretzel Logic
Bad Sneakers 3:19 Steely Dan Katy Lied
Dr Wu 3:57 Steely Dan Katy Lied
Your Gold Teeth II 4:14 Steely Dan Katy Lied
Kid Charlemagne 4:39 Steely Dan The Royal Scam
Haitian Divorce 5:50 Steely Dan The Royal Scam
The Fez 4:00 Steely Dan The Royal Scam
Sign in Stranger 4:21 Steely Dan The Royal Scam
Black Cow 5:10 Steely Dan Aja 1 1/11/2006 7:46 PM
Peg 3:58 Steely Dan Aja 1 1/11/2006 7:50 PM
Home At Last 5:35 Steely Dan Aja 1 1/11/2006 7:56 PM
Deacon Blues 7:37 Steely Dan Aja 1 1/11/2006 8:03 PM 1993
Babylon Sisters 5:55 Steely Dan Gaucho 1 1/11/2006 8:09 PM
Time Out Of Mind 4:13 Steely Dan Gaucho 1 1/11/2006 8:13 PM 1980
Hey Nineteen 5:07 Steely Dan Gaucho 2 1/11/2006 8:19 PM
Third World Man 5:14 Steely Dan Gaucho 1 1/11/2006 8:24 PM

Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Monday, 16 January 2006 23:48 (nineteen years ago)

Is that under 80 minutes?? "Deacon Blues" is like 7 minutes alone. Still, that looks pretty good.

jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 16 January 2006 23:52 (nineteen years ago)

It's not under 80 minutes. It's over 120 minutes.

Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Monday, 16 January 2006 23:53 (nineteen years ago)

Then it doesn't count.

jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 16 January 2006 23:54 (nineteen years ago)

Also: no Sufjan, no credibility.

jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 16 January 2006 23:55 (nineteen years ago)

I imagine it as a two-disc set. "The Real Best of Steely Dan".

Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Monday, 16 January 2006 23:59 (nineteen years ago)

am i wrong to have suddenly heard shades of the big coldplay song in the big sufjan song the other night? i could be totally off, my explicit familiarity with both artists is limited, but allza sudden when the little choir kicked in on the sufjan, this coldplay echo damn near blackjacked me ...

literalisp (literalisp), Tuesday, 17 January 2006 00:14 (nineteen years ago)

Which Sufjan song?

jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 17 January 2006 00:15 (nineteen years ago)

"Chicago" is the single from the album: was it that? And for that matter, which Coldplay song? A recent one? "Speed of Sound"? "Talk"? "Fix You"?

jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 17 January 2006 00:16 (nineteen years ago)

yeah, "chicago" is the one.

i dunno the coldplays, it'd be the bigbigbig ubiquitous one from a couple years back or whatever.

literalisp (literalisp), Tuesday, 17 January 2006 00:31 (nineteen years ago)

I'd like to see Patricia Barber live, esp. at the Green Mill.

And Brad Mehldau is not momjazz! Brad Mehldau's records are fucking crazy.

Jordan (Jordan), Tuesday, 17 January 2006 00:34 (nineteen years ago)

It looks like I will not be noize tonight....bingo at the Clip instead. I guess.

gbx (skowly), Tuesday, 17 January 2006 00:57 (nineteen years ago)

Maybe I will win the items that are my birthright!

gbx (skowly), Tuesday, 17 January 2006 01:01 (nineteen years ago)

the one with the big piano figure upfront, what goes:

dingada-dingada-dinga
dingada-dingada-dinga
dingada-dingada-dinga
dingada-dingada-dinga

you know the one!

literalisp (literalisp), Tuesday, 17 January 2006 01:26 (nineteen years ago)

That's song number three, the World's Fair one. I don't think it sounds like Coldplay. I will have to check out this skeleton band now. Hi. I had the day off work today so I apartment hunted with A., which was actually kind of stressful, not because of him but just, you know. I am also being put in a temporary location at work after arguing with them because they are putting down carpet tiles with glue that gives me horrible migraines and makes me swell up like a pumpkin. So I may be around, I may be not for a while, it depends if my new location is observable. But I am jealous that there is an Age of Bronze thread (did I start it? I can't remember) so I might pop over there.

jocelyn (Jocelyn), Tuesday, 17 January 2006 01:46 (nineteen years ago)

now come on. i meant the coldplay song. obviously. ;)

literalisp (literalisp), Tuesday, 17 January 2006 02:04 (nineteen years ago)

Y KANT I RED?

jocelyn (Jocelyn), Tuesday, 17 January 2006 02:06 (nineteen years ago)

"poly-poly-poly--"

"polysorbate 80, johnny."

literalisp (literalisp), Tuesday, 17 January 2006 02:14 (nineteen years ago)

Now we are not going anywhere. Which is sort of depressing. It shouldn't be, because, whatever, it's a Monday night, and we had fun playing music, but still. Sometimes having only one set of friends can be tough.

Classic/dud: going to the Empty Bottle by yourself?

gbx (skowly), Tuesday, 17 January 2006 03:17 (nineteen years ago)

classic. going to shows by yourself in general is classic.

Jeff. (Jeff), Tuesday, 17 January 2006 03:27 (nineteen years ago)

Maybe I will do that, then.

gbx (skowly), Tuesday, 17 January 2006 03:28 (nineteen years ago)

But I will NOT tell my roommates that I am leaving, so it will be MELODRAMATIC and THEY WILL FEEL BAD ABOUT BEING BAD AT BEING FRIENDS WITH ME.

That'll learn 'em. Bitches.

gbx (skowly), Tuesday, 17 January 2006 03:29 (nineteen years ago)

Gib, come to the Empty Bottle - a bunch of folks I know are going to be there, and maybe you'll know one or two of 'em too. And say hi if I don't see you, 'cause that one night at the Beat Kitchen we met was so long ago and blurry....

Eazy (Eazy), Tuesday, 17 January 2006 03:33 (nineteen years ago)

(I was going to go to the Green Mill solo, but then this bottle outing came up - Mill another Monday soon...And sorry about the Brad M. dis - I hate countering someone else's semi-uninformed generalization with a semi-uninformed generalization of my own...

Eazy (Eazy), Tuesday, 17 January 2006 03:34 (nineteen years ago)

Haha, touche.

Jordan (Jordan), Tuesday, 17 January 2006 03:59 (nineteen years ago)

literalisp, you're thinking of "Clocks" -- but I don't really hear that in "Chicago"!

jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 17 January 2006 05:36 (nineteen years ago)

And lest you think I'm being defensive, I actually think "Clocks" is a better song than "Chicago."

jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 17 January 2006 05:38 (nineteen years ago)

Has anyone heard of a rock n' roll combo called the Mary Timony Band?

Jordan (Jordan), Tuesday, 17 January 2006 05:54 (nineteen years ago)

Sarah to thread.

jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 17 January 2006 05:59 (nineteen years ago)

Eazy: sorry I wasn't very personable/conversational. Chalk it up to (a) bad mood and (b) drunkish and (c) see (a).

gbx (skowly), Tuesday, 17 January 2006 06:35 (nineteen years ago)

Hey, no problem, I was going to introduce you to the other folks with me (Nell & her beau, etc.) but there was no good time and the campfire music was going - thanks for saying hi.

Eazy (Eazy), Tuesday, 17 January 2006 08:29 (nineteen years ago)

going to shows by yourself in general is classic.

I think this definitely depends on the show. Sometimes going to shows by yourself is completely depressing, especially when you have to deal with unruly fellow audience members with no one to bitch to about it.

Chris F. (servoret), Tuesday, 17 January 2006 14:03 (nineteen years ago)

especially when you have to deal with unruly fellow audience members with no one to bitch to about it.


it's never ok to bitch about someone else at a show to anyone but the person you're bitching about.

otto midnight (otto midnight), Tuesday, 17 January 2006 14:25 (nineteen years ago)

Yeah, I don't know about going to shows alone. I go to movies alone all the time and enjoy it, but with shows there seems like there'd be an awful lot of standing around, pretending to be distracted.

jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 17 January 2006 14:49 (nineteen years ago)

Kenan: opinions on the new Stylus design?

jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 17 January 2006 14:58 (nineteen years ago)

I like going to jazz shows alone, because they involve sitting.

Jordan (Jordan), Tuesday, 17 January 2006 15:03 (nineteen years ago)

i go to shows by myself all the time. if i don't see anyone i know i tend to drink a little less and make jokes in my head. it's fun.

otto midnight (otto midnight), Tuesday, 17 January 2006 15:05 (nineteen years ago)

I used to go to shows alone quite a bit. Still do, occasionally. Bring a book, just for insurance. Otherwise, visit the merch table, leave when the show is over. The end.

The Milkmaid (of human kindness) (The Milkmaid), Tuesday, 17 January 2006 15:06 (nineteen years ago)

Amanda, how was the jass show last night? I want the dirty details.

Jordan (Jordan), Tuesday, 17 January 2006 15:11 (nineteen years ago)

i went to the tyrades show by myself saturday night. i really should learn not to leave my apartment if i'm already drunk at 10:00 pm. nothing good can come of going out and getting drunker.

otto midnight (otto midnight), Tuesday, 17 January 2006 15:14 (nineteen years ago)

Jordan - It was great...the weird thing is, there was hardly anyone there. I mean, I know there was a lot going on last night and it's WAY up in Wisconsin or whatever, but Morseland has a really nice stage and great food and $3 Harp and Guinness, a parking lot AND it's right off the el. They played from 8-10 and it wasn't wildly avant-garde or anything, but it was good. Apparently they're hosting a different jazz band there every Monday, to be repeated every month. So this combo will be back the third Monday of next month as well. Fin.

The Milkmaid (of human kindness) (The Milkmaid), Tuesday, 17 January 2006 15:15 (nineteen years ago)

PS -- Show was free. Can't beat that.

The Milkmaid (of human kindness) (The Milkmaid), Tuesday, 17 January 2006 15:15 (nineteen years ago)

I'm bouncing to go to a show sometime soon.

Jeff. (Jeff), Tuesday, 17 January 2006 15:30 (nineteen years ago)

That sounds fun, Amanda. I'm always surprised when there ARE a lot of people at a jazz show.

Jordan (Jordan), Tuesday, 17 January 2006 15:37 (nineteen years ago)

I prefer slightly avant garde to wildly avant garde anyway.

Jordan (Jordan), Tuesday, 17 January 2006 15:37 (nineteen years ago)

You guys really have to see the stage at this place -- it's clean, carpeted, there's a purple curtain behind it. It's at least 2 feet off the floor. We sat in a little banquette right in front of the stage and the walls were so high that we couldn't see anyone else in the bar/restaurant. It felt like the show was just for us. (Which made it a little embarrassing, but at least there was someone sitting there, right?)

The Milkmaid (of human kindness) (The Milkmaid), Tuesday, 17 January 2006 15:42 (nineteen years ago)

Jordan, I was kind of obsessed with Mary Timony for a while. She was in this band called HELIUM before she went solo. She was in some side projects too - like a brief stint with Carrie of Sleater-Kinney called the Spells - but she's best known for Helium records. At least one video from her first album - Honeycomb - even made it on MTV. I really liked her first two solo albums. They are very dreamy and medieval sounding at parts, but I haven't gotten into the latest one, Ex Hex. I've seen her play twice - once in DC and once here, the first time alone and the second time with a drummer. I didn't enjoy her as much at the last show because she seemed to be doing way too much jamming and less songy, but also that night was tainted by having my car broken into and losing my stereo system. THE END

Sarah Kittensmew McLusky (coco), Tuesday, 17 January 2006 15:49 (nineteen years ago)

* enter Three Girl Rhumba riff being played by Elastica *
Apparently, what I needed was VASELINE. I bought some last night and smothered my nose with it. My right nostril is lookin' good. The left one needs a little more work, but is vastly improved. BOO YA!

Sarah Kittensmew McLusky (coco), Tuesday, 17 January 2006 15:50 (nineteen years ago)

I saw Helium once. They were great. It was Helium and Archers of Loaf, in Columbus. I always meant to check out those Mary Timony solo albums, but I forgot.

The Milkmaid (of human kindness) (The Milkmaid), Tuesday, 17 January 2006 15:54 (nineteen years ago)

Cool, Sarah. I've never heard her, but a good friend of mine played drums for her on the tour with Spoon.

Jordan (Jordan), Tuesday, 17 January 2006 15:54 (nineteen years ago)

good starting points for helium- superball single, pirate prude ep (one of my favorites), and the dirt of luck lp. kinda sketch after that, for me.

autoclave, anyone?

otto midnight (otto midnight), Tuesday, 17 January 2006 15:54 (nineteen years ago)

Ha ha. I have all those, including autoclave, though I only really liked one song on there, which was on there twice, and was a big Slant 6 fan.

Sarah Kittensmew McLusky (coco), Tuesday, 17 January 2006 16:08 (nineteen years ago)

i had everything from the american jean through the magic city. started losing interest around the time of the "no guitars" ep, after magic city totally lost it. back in the early/mid 90's helium shows were a fucking ton.

otto midnight (otto midnight), Tuesday, 17 January 2006 16:23 (nineteen years ago)

Didn't some of you go to one of those Spoon shows?

Tonight I'm going to see my friend's band Cougar, and then you will not hear from me until next week 'cause I'm going to Portland for work. I'll probably whine about it too.

Jordan (Jordan), Tuesday, 17 January 2006 16:25 (nineteen years ago)

Kenan: opinions on the new Stylus design?

It's about damn time. And I like the way they didn't really change it much, they just kind of fixed it. It was very broken and messy before; now it's clean and correct. Big ups to whoever did it.

Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Tuesday, 17 January 2006 16:25 (nineteen years ago)

I loved No Guitars, but that's where I started and then worked backwards/forwards. (yay for college radio introducing me to Helium)

Is a "fucking ton" a good thing?

Sarah Kittensmew McLusky (coco), Tuesday, 17 January 2006 16:36 (nineteen years ago)

I like The Dirt of Luck, which I brought probably because it was on Matador (LOL), but haven't been compelled to check out anything else by them. (Oh wait, maybe I also bought it because Ash Bowie was in the band?)

jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 17 January 2006 16:37 (nineteen years ago)

a fucking ton is a very good thing indeed.

otto midnight (otto midnight), Tuesday, 17 January 2006 16:40 (nineteen years ago)

I was also in love with Ash Bowie for a while. Did you know that when he was in Polvo, he was often singing just to me in my headphones? He was like, Hey, Sarah, check out how sultry & mysterious & cute my voice is in THIS song...

I temporarily forgot about Mind Science of the Mind, with good reason. Ugh.

Sarah Kittensmew McLusky (coco), Tuesday, 17 January 2006 16:42 (nineteen years ago)

stylus is still lacking rss feeds

Jeff. (Jeff), Tuesday, 17 January 2006 16:43 (nineteen years ago)

Wow. New thread, of course... Some thoughts:

I like NMH a lot but my view is somewhat similar to Jeff's - I have kind of a hard time listening to them now because of past issues.

I'd be up for the FF show on Thursday, but I have band practice first. When do you go on?

I can't hang out this weekend, I don't think, but I'd like to hang with you guys again sometime soon (and meet those of you who I haven't met yet, too!)

The loft party in Plzn is going to be the shit.

Df'nM (OutDatWay), Tuesday, 17 January 2006 16:53 (nineteen years ago)

Yeah, I'd be up for the FF show, too -- C4n4st4 is doing a radio taping on WBEZ that night but we should get out early-ish.

jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 17 January 2006 16:58 (nineteen years ago)

I don't know what time exactly. The Beat Kitchen page says the show starts at 9pm. We're playing 2nd. I hope you can make it!

Have any of you read Devil in a White City? I realize it's SO 2004, but I just checked it out at the library this past weekend. I want to be at home in bed reading it. It would be a good day for that. I'm not to page 100 yet, so no spoilers please.

Sarah Kittensmew McLusky (coco), Tuesday, 17 January 2006 17:03 (nineteen years ago)

I read that book! Just gave it to my girl to read, actually. It's really good. I got it from my dad shortly after moving to the city. I really enjoyed it after-the-fact when I got my job in Hyde Park and could walk around some of the places that were mentioned in the book.

Df'nM (OutDatWay), Tuesday, 17 January 2006 17:06 (nineteen years ago)

Yeah, I'm definitely going to have to create a little Devil tour for myself once I'm done with the book. I didn't know that the stockyard gates were still up, for example.

Sarah Kittensmew McLusky (coco), Tuesday, 17 January 2006 17:13 (nineteen years ago)

Maddie read it. Sounded really interesting. I think that when I mentioned it, Kenan made fun of me because it's such a ubiqitous Chicago train book! Or maybe I'm thinking of something else.

Jordan (Jordan), Tuesday, 17 January 2006 17:14 (nineteen years ago)

Yeah, I'm pretty sure it was. I'm so behind the times.

Sarah Kittensmew McLusky (coco), Tuesday, 17 January 2006 17:15 (nineteen years ago)

yeah i read that. i was already familiar with the murder portion of the story so i found the white city parts to be much more interesting to me. i'm kinda gay for architecture.

otto midnight (otto midnight), Tuesday, 17 January 2006 17:16 (nineteen years ago)

Me too.

Sarah Kittensmew McLusky (coco), Tuesday, 17 January 2006 17:17 (nineteen years ago)

We went on that architecture tour shortly after she finished the book, so that worked out nicely.

You know, it is not fair that I have to get up EARLY tomorrow to catch a flight in order to work an all-night shift.

Jordan (Jordan), Tuesday, 17 January 2006 17:18 (nineteen years ago)

Amanda, next time you hit that jazz show, let me know. If I don't have a test the next day & you want company, I'll tag along.

kelsey (kelstarry), Tuesday, 17 January 2006 17:29 (nineteen years ago)

Ok!! Hopefully we can get the mafioso table again. It was fun.

The Milkmaid (of human kindness) (The Milkmaid), Tuesday, 17 January 2006 17:32 (nineteen years ago)

Not quite jazz and pardon the self-plug, but I'm playing tonight at the 'backporch stage' at the House o' Blues downtown - with four other songwriter types, round-robin oh-that-reminds-me-of-the-time-my-dog-busted-his-leg style, 9:30-11:30, and I've got an unlimited guest list ($5 otherwise), so come on by. And I'll be playing a fancy borrowed guitar.

Eazy (Eazy), Tuesday, 17 January 2006 17:47 (nineteen years ago)

Self-plug follow-up: Friday, 10 PM, Viaduct Theatre - Cat5plash, Hunt|ng St0ries, Zer0stars - $8

Df'nM (OutDatWay), Tuesday, 17 January 2006 18:09 (nineteen years ago)

That's possible. I have seen Cat5plash a couple of times but only when they were performing as a Radiohead cover band, which they did remarkably well.

jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 17 January 2006 18:10 (nineteen years ago)

Speaking of not-Radiohead covers, did you get the song I sent you, Jaymc?

The Milkmaid (of human kindness) (The Milkmaid), Tuesday, 17 January 2006 18:13 (nineteen years ago)

They were a Radiohead cover band? Weird. I think they've played with us before, but before I was a member of the band.

Df'nM (OutDatWay), Tuesday, 17 January 2006 18:15 (nineteen years ago)

Speaking of not-Radiohead covers, did you get the song I sent you, Jaymc?

I did, thank you!

jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 17 January 2006 18:18 (nineteen years ago)

it's never ok to bitch about someone else at a show to anyone but the person you're bitching about.

What, even when said bitching would result in a fistfight? Venting isn't better?

with shows there seems like there'd be an awful lot of standing around, pretending to be distracted

Exactly. I'm not sure how workable bringing a book would always be for me, but it is an idea if I ever wind up alone at show again.

Chris F. (servoret), Tuesday, 17 January 2006 18:33 (nineteen years ago)

And did you get the song I sent you, jaymc?

Jordan (Jordan), Tuesday, 17 January 2006 18:34 (nineteen years ago)

People: Send me songs! I decided while driving this weekend that I am sick of a large portion of my music.

Df'nM (OutDatWay), Tuesday, 17 January 2006 18:36 (nineteen years ago)

http://www.posteverything.com/2004/06/30/7462/1sr209.jpg

Jeff. (Jeff), Tuesday, 17 January 2006 18:41 (nineteen years ago)

(my "real" email address is the same as below but @gmail)

xpost

Df'nM (OutDatWay), Tuesday, 17 January 2006 18:42 (nineteen years ago)

Thanks for the song, EZ... who is it?

Df'nM (OutDatWay), Tuesday, 17 January 2006 19:14 (nineteen years ago)

So I'm sitting here eating my lunch and this guy comes over and looks at it and he says. "What's THAT?"

"It's carrot-ginger soup. It's good. "

"Oh, it looks..." [sneers]

[humorlessly] "It's my lunch."

Criticizing people's food while they're eating it: not cool.

The Milkmaid (of human kindness) (The Milkmaid), Tuesday, 17 January 2006 19:18 (nineteen years ago)

Yes, Jordan. I liked it. I'm gonna have to d/l the original, because I'm not sure I know it.

jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 17 January 2006 19:18 (nineteen years ago)

What, even when said bitching would result in a fistfight? Venting isn't better?

nope, i'll take aggressive-aggressive over passive-aggressive any day.

otto midnight (otto midnight), Tuesday, 17 January 2006 19:33 (nineteen years ago)

It's Calexico - one of a few songs they made as chapter transitions for an audiobook in the late 1990s. Thanks for the return song, Dan - I'll listen to it in a minute.

I love love love carrot-ginger soup.

The only trouble with bitching at a show is if it's the equivalent of saying 'shhh' to someone in a quiet place and having the shushing be more distracting for all parties. Sunday night I was at a show where two guys were drunk off their asses and laughing in an otherwise silent room where Johnny Cash's next-door-neighbor was playing a song he wrote right after Cash died, and I just stared and stared at the guys, and they left soon after. The long steady stare can work sometimes.

Eazy (Eazy), Tuesday, 17 January 2006 19:36 (nineteen years ago)

The almighty stink-eye works (almost) every time!

The Milkmaid (of human kindness) (The Milkmaid), Tuesday, 17 January 2006 19:39 (nineteen years ago)

Aww. My favorite DJ/dance night sort of closed on Sunday, and I remembered that the first time I ever went I arrived too early for there to be any excitement yet plus I didn't know anyone to schmooze with, so I took out my book, sat in a corner, and read until the place filled up. The memory surfaced as I did the same thing on Sunday eve -- looked around and decided to get in a few extra chapters before they turned all the lights down.

Laurel (Laurel), Tuesday, 17 January 2006 19:40 (nineteen years ago)

Johnny Cash's next-door-neighbor was playing a song he wrote right after Cash died

That is...weird.

Jordan (Jordan), Tuesday, 17 January 2006 19:49 (nineteen years ago)

amanda, i'm assuming it's carrot ginger soup you made? last time i made some, i wanted more ginger. i love love love ginger.

kelsey (kelstarry), Tuesday, 17 January 2006 19:58 (nineteen years ago)

unfortch, it's the box kind. if you have a good recipe, please email it to me! i just got a new hand blender and would like to try it out. i just ate a ginger-lemon creme cookie and it was SOOOOOO GOOOOOOD.

The Milkmaid (of human kindness) (The Milkmaid), Tuesday, 17 January 2006 20:04 (nineteen years ago)

You might have better luck just borrowing the cookbook since my home computer is down for the count. the indefinite count . . .

kelsey (kelstarry), Tuesday, 17 January 2006 20:05 (nineteen years ago)

Ooh, Hunting St0ries show on Friday might be a possiblity, if we're not too worn out from playing on Thurs. BTW, I don't think we're playing until 11:00 on Thurs.

n/a (Nick A.), Tuesday, 17 January 2006 20:07 (nineteen years ago)

Hey, internet savvy folks . . . riddle me this:
How did harmonica players first come up with their little handles/nicknames? Why do they do this? It seems like any noteworthy harmonica player has this catchy name thing going & not that I'm ready for my own name yet, but someday I might be! Can anyone find a history or a process for this? My searches are turning up nada.

kelsey (kelstarry), Tuesday, 17 January 2006 20:09 (nineteen years ago)

So, I'm kinda stressing about this latest trip for work, helping out at this hospital in Portland. I'm trying not be a whiner about it, but I haven't worked night shifts before, and these are 12 hour overnight shifts. I guess I can keep pounding coffee to stay awake, but I imagine that adjusting back to normal life will be all kinds of fun.

xpost, examples pls.

Jordan (Jordan), Tuesday, 17 January 2006 20:15 (nineteen years ago)

How did harmonica players first come up with their little handles/nicknames?

Because you can't be a real hobo without a hobo name.

Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Tuesday, 17 January 2006 20:18 (nineteen years ago)

seriously! i'm being serious!

kelsey (kelstarry), Tuesday, 17 January 2006 20:19 (nineteen years ago)

Kelsey, I'm guessing it's not that much different than nicknames of blues and/or jazz artists (and hip-hop, for that matter.) Something that they'd been called for years already that they incorporated into their musical persona.

Also, a harmonica is known in certain circles as a "Mississippi Saxophone." Thank you Wikipedia.

xpost

Df'nM (OutDatWay), Tuesday, 17 January 2006 20:19 (nineteen years ago)

jordan, exercise keeps me awake. i don't know if you can take periodic breaks to do a little yoga or whatever, but it might help. otherwise, just force yourself to stay up REALLY late the night before & then sleep in as late as possible. night shift away!

kelsey (kelstarry), Tuesday, 17 January 2006 20:20 (nineteen years ago)

You could go with R. Kelsey, or Lil' Kels (suggesting that you had been a child harmonica prodigy), Kill-See.

Jordan (Jordan), Tuesday, 17 January 2006 20:21 (nineteen years ago)

For hobo name ideas, I suggest consulting John Hodgman's The Areas of My Expertise, which helpfully includes a list of 700 hobo names.

2. Cholly the Yegg
36. 50-Tooth Slim
51. Boxcar Benjamin Disraeli
69. Honest Amelia Dirt

and etc.

Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Tuesday, 17 January 2006 20:22 (nineteen years ago)

That's a good idea. The night before is TONIGHT, so I guess I would be justified in staying up all night playing video games or something.

Jordan (Jordan), Tuesday, 17 January 2006 20:24 (nineteen years ago)

That's the route I'd take. Are you allowed to sleep in really late?

kelsey (kelstarry), Tuesday, 17 January 2006 20:25 (nineteen years ago)

Tomorrow I have to travel, but after that I work 7 pm - 7 am, and I can do WHATEVER I WANT for the remaining 11 hours (accounting for travel time) of the day. I guess that means sleep 'til 4:00, get some dinner for breakfast, go back to work.

Jordan (Jordan), Tuesday, 17 January 2006 20:27 (nineteen years ago)

Nice. Thanks for your harmonica name suggestions, by the way. I want to keep collecting them until one sticks.

kelsey (kelstarry), Tuesday, 17 January 2006 21:00 (nineteen years ago)

I tried to think of some but all of mine were terrible. Not worth posting, they were so bad.

The Milkmaid (of human kindness) (The Milkmaid), Tuesday, 17 January 2006 21:02 (nineteen years ago)

What about "Shilt$ Dilt$" -- named for your love of And the Band Played On, Randy Shilts's investigative overview of the early years of the AIDS epidemic?

jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 17 January 2006 21:04 (nineteen years ago)

Who's Dr. Nusty today? It's you, J. I want something corny, I think.

R. Kelsey (kelstarry), Tuesday, 17 January 2006 21:07 (nineteen years ago)

What about Kelsey "The Lung" Dilt$?

The Milkmaid (of human kindness) (The Milkmaid), Tuesday, 17 January 2006 21:09 (nineteen years ago)

Are you calling me Dr. Nutsy because I'm nuts? Or because that book seems like something Jenny would be into?

jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 17 January 2006 21:10 (nineteen years ago)

Kelsey "|-|@rm0n|c@ |-|@x0r" Dilts

Df'nM (OutDatWay), Tuesday, 17 January 2006 21:14 (nineteen years ago)

(1337-spelling is key to that one)

Df'nM (OutDatWay), Tuesday, 17 January 2006 21:14 (nineteen years ago)

I called Jenny Dr. Nutsy yesterday b/c of the diagnosis she made of Sarah's nose (and b/c her name says "nutsy the squirrel"). I'm calling you Dr. Nutsy today b/c you crazy.

R. Kelsey (kelstarry), Tuesday, 17 January 2006 21:16 (nineteen years ago)

Carolina Collardtooth Cunningham

nabisco (nabisco), Tuesday, 17 January 2006 21:38 (nineteen years ago)

Kelsonica

Kel C-Major

Jordan (Jordan), Tuesday, 17 January 2006 21:40 (nineteen years ago)

Diatonic Dilts

Df'nM (OutDatWay), Tuesday, 17 January 2006 21:45 (nineteen years ago)

That one's for J, obviously.

K needs something more along the lines of Peggy-Belle "Underpants" Jackson: I recommend KC "Ass-Pocket Firebird" D!lts.

nabisco (nabisco), Tuesday, 17 January 2006 21:46 (nineteen years ago)

i'm partial to "the blues harpie" myself.

otto midnight (otto midnight), Tuesday, 17 January 2006 21:50 (nineteen years ago)

N., get to work on yr schaffel remix of "Slow Down Chicago" already.

jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 17 January 2006 21:56 (nineteen years ago)

Kel-C Schnaffel-Kegel, America's Mouthharpist

The Milkmaid (of human kindness) (The Milkmaid), Tuesday, 17 January 2006 21:58 (nineteen years ago)

Whoa, did you guys see this?

SMOKING NOW PROHIBITED AT METRO
A new Chicago Clean Indoor Air Ordinance was passed by the Chicago City Council in December 2005. The ordinance, Municipal Code 7-32, the Chicago Clean Indoor Air Ordinance, prohibits smoking in public facilities. Due to the ordinance, smoking is prohibited in Metro.

jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 17 January 2006 21:58 (nineteen years ago)

You know in New York, the harmonica is known as the Gentile's Harp.

Jordan (Jordan), Tuesday, 17 January 2006 21:59 (nineteen years ago)

"the bends" dilts?

R. Kelsey (kelstarry), Tuesday, 17 January 2006 22:14 (nineteen years ago)

By the way, why doesn't adam drop in anymore? I miss that guy.

R. Kelsey (kelstarry), Tuesday, 17 January 2006 22:58 (nineteen years ago)

I'll ask him on the Ask Adam thread on the Noise Board.

jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 17 January 2006 22:58 (nineteen years ago)

It's a valid question.

R. Kelsey (kelstarry), Tuesday, 17 January 2006 23:00 (nineteen years ago)

?
That's funny. Drop in on a regional thread, crepe out all of the female participants, drop lotsa boring facts about yourself...and they want you back for more!

-- adamrl (adamr...), January 17th, 2006 5:02 PM. (nordicskilla) (later) (link)

jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 17 January 2006 23:06 (nineteen years ago)

hooray for the metro

Jeff. (Jeff), Tuesday, 17 January 2006 23:08 (nineteen years ago)

J, the schaffel version will have to be more of a cover, since I can't really isolate the vocals from the original very well. Also I might have to tweak the lyrics and call it "Manhattan Slow Down" or else "Chicago Keep Going the Same Speed, You've Got a Nice Balance Going."

nabisco (nabisco), Tuesday, 17 January 2006 23:09 (nineteen years ago)

Awesome.

jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 17 January 2006 23:13 (nineteen years ago)

After watching those Aeon Flux dvds, I was like "hey, isn't there a weird Aeon Flux board on ILX?"

There still is, and it's weird. Completely self-contained, happily going about their business, and apparently the creator(s) post there all the time.

Jordan (Jordan), Tuesday, 17 January 2006 23:17 (nineteen years ago)

with shows there seems like there'd be an awful lot of standing around, pretending to be distracted.

This is true. I did this a few times, mostly because I was too shy to talk to the pretty girl that I was standing next to.

This, I think, is something I should stop doing.

I didn't post on ILx ONCE today, and it was strangely liberating. That being said:

(1) Tell me more of loft parties in Plzn, Dan.
(2) "R. Kelsey" pwns.
(3) I really liked the Wooden Wand show last night!
(4) I am unqualified to comment on mouth harp nicknames
(5) The long-term bad idea-ness of getting laid is slowly becoming manifest
(6) Thank you, stylus, for the re-design. The old layout was...unattractive.
(7) My "band" is playing on Feb. 18th, god willing. You are all invited.
(8) I am very likely moving away from Chi in exactly 45 days. Should I quit my job what I hate and do something mindless in the meantime, so as to better take advantage of the city (ie - be a bike messenger and starve and do all the city stuff I can before disappearing into the mountains again?)

gbx (skowly), Wednesday, 18 January 2006 04:13 (nineteen years ago)

nope, i'll take aggressive-aggressive over passive-aggressive any day.

Passive-passive, not PA (it's not like I'm doing anything TO THEM one way or the other). Has this policy gotten you into any fights?

The almighty stink-eye works (almost) every time!

Yeah, but not always, and I don't need to take chances with really stupid drunk people when I can just try to avoid them (assuming they're not actively hellbent on ruining the entire show for everyone, like at that last Frogs concert I went to).


BTW, Jordan, I was just talking to the buddy of mine that was at the Nomad with me that night and he mentioned again that he really liked the impromptu Digdowns set. Personally, I was very impressed when you guys launched into the Sly Stone and then "Sexual Healing".

Chris F. (servoret), Wednesday, 18 January 2006 05:16 (nineteen years ago)

Thanks Chris! That was our hottest set in awhile, we love the Nomad.

8) I am very likely moving away from Chi in exactly 45 days. Should I quit my job what I hate and do something mindless in the meantime, so as to better take advantage of the city (ie - be a bike messenger and starve and do all the city stuff I can before disappearing into the mountains again?)

That sounds like a great idea. I love those inbetween periods where you're justified in bumming around because you have something else coming up.

Jordan (Jordan), Wednesday, 18 January 2006 06:03 (nineteen years ago)

I'm glad that you agree!

I am, however, a little nervous about quitting my job. One, because I'll take a huge pay cut. Two, because I'm nervous about the confrontation it will require.

gbx (skowly), Wednesday, 18 January 2006 06:06 (nineteen years ago)

In a similar sense, I feel justified in staying up LATE tonight because I'm working third shift and then some tomorrow.

Maddie and I went to see Cougar's very first show tonight it really, seriously, very good. They had film projections and a floral arrangement on stage and everything. I think Kenan and Jaymc would both like the album a lot.

Then we got black bean/feta/avocado slices at Ian's.

Jordan (Jordan), Wednesday, 18 January 2006 06:19 (nineteen years ago)

sense of impending doom

Jeff. (Jeff), Wednesday, 18 January 2006 15:14 (nineteen years ago)

(1) Tell me more of loft parties in Plzn, Dan.

Next Saturday, the 28th. 1950 W. 21st St. Evidently the entrance is "in the alley." There's going to be two "folk" acts and two "rock" bands. It's $5, this may include free "refreshments," I'm not sure. BYOB is definitely OK. Only one thing: it starts and ends kind of early... 8PM to midnight. This is so those responsible don't go to jail, as far as I know.

Directions here

Df'nM (OutDatWay), Wednesday, 18 January 2006 15:25 (nineteen years ago)

BTW: the myspace with the directions is one of the bands that will be playing.

Df'nM (OutDatWay), Wednesday, 18 January 2006 15:27 (nineteen years ago)

Dear gbx,

What does "pwn" mean? I'm outdated.

Sincerely,
R. Kelsey

R. Kelsey (kelstarry), Wednesday, 18 January 2006 15:32 (nineteen years ago)

While we're at it,

Dear ILX,
What is a schaffel?
Yours,
La Lechera

The Milkmaid (of human kindness) (The Milkmaid), Wednesday, 18 January 2006 15:44 (nineteen years ago)

Has this policy gotten you into any fights?

no, closest thing to a fight came when some dick was, evidently, trying to start a mosh pit at a dirtbombs show at the double door. i told him to knock it the fuck off and he came back with an "oh yeah?!??" while trying to puff himself up. i said 'yeah' and he kind of slinked away. i've found most fights to happen when you DON'T look for them.

otto midnight (otto midnight), Wednesday, 18 January 2006 15:48 (nineteen years ago)

Jordan do you guys play in Chicago any time soon?

R. Kelsey (kelstarry), Wednesday, 18 January 2006 15:50 (nineteen years ago)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pwn

otto: is your real name Otto and are you in a band that I saw last week at Phyllis's?

gbx (skowly), Wednesday, 18 January 2006 15:54 (nineteen years ago)

no, my real name is kevin and i haven't been in a band in a decade. "otto midnight" is my homage to the stellar hot snakes album and song "automatic midnight".

otto midnight (otto midnight), Wednesday, 18 January 2006 15:56 (nineteen years ago)

Oh, ok.

gbx (skowly), Wednesday, 18 January 2006 16:07 (nineteen years ago)

Schaffel = German for "shuffle" = a variant of electronic dance music popular a couple of years ago characterized by a distinct shuffle-like rhythm. I've never really been able to get my head around what exactly counts as a schaffel beat -- I've heard some people say that it's a 4/4 beat that can also be felt as 6/8. But Soft Cell's "Tainted Love" and Depeche Mode's "Personal Jesus" have both been mixed very easily into schaffel tracks, if that gives you some idea.

jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 18 January 2006 16:29 (nineteen years ago)

Ok, I see. Thank you very much. I had no idea what that meant. Schaffel.

So I have something to report to all vegetarians interested in commercial varieties of tofu:

I go to the Golden Palace on Broadway to purchase all varieties of Asian noodles, sesame seeds, edamame, sauces, etc. On my most recent visit, I decided to try some of their prepared, seasoned tofu instead of making my own.

I bought two kinds: 1) spicy tofu and 2) dried spiced tofu.

One was tasty (#2) and one was easily, without a doubt, the most foul-smelling (and tasting) piece of "food" I have ever ingested.

If you find yourself wanting to try the "spicy tofu", I urge you to spice it yourself. My entire kitchen still smells like some wretched combination of rotting fish and disease. The "dried spiced tofu was very solid and virtually flavorless, but had a nice consistency. I wouldn't bother buying it again though, since I can do just as well with a regular block of extra firm.

The End.

The Milkmaid (of human kindness) (The Milkmaid), Wednesday, 18 January 2006 16:37 (nineteen years ago)

i sauteed some peppers and onions last night and my apartment smelled delicious all night. this morning it was something different however.

otto midnight (otto midnight), Wednesday, 18 January 2006 16:40 (nineteen years ago)

I have to vent. I cannot fucking STAND b4nk 0ne/ch4se, whatever the fuck. I checked my balance online, my checking account had $4 in it. FOUR FUCKING DOLLARS. Mind you, just a couple of months ago I had identity theft & this is a new checking account set up b/c of the bad guys. So, of course I assume my account has been broken into yet again & I'm just freaked. Also, it's a large sum of money. They took out over $300 b/c of an error they made when I cashed out some savings bonds. Apparently, they overpaid me & the woman I spoke with asked me why I didn't realize this error. Her comment was harshly followed up with a sentitment from me along the lines of, "so I can't trust a bank to be accurate?" On top of the >$300, they took $100 from my credit card ("overdraft" protection) and charged me the $7 "cash advance" fee. So I am working on getting the $7 charge reversed, but how right am I to demand at least 1/2 of the money I thought I initially had?

R. Kelsey (kelstarry), Wednesday, 18 January 2006 16:44 (nineteen years ago)

none of that is very clear, sorry. i'm fuming over here.

R. Kelsey (kelstarry), Wednesday, 18 January 2006 16:45 (nineteen years ago)

Agggggghhhhhh -- I'm sorry Kelsey. That sounds horrible. Give them the what-for, if you can.

The Milkmaid (of human kindness) (The Milkmaid), Wednesday, 18 January 2006 16:47 (nineteen years ago)

That's horrible. I hate it when the customer service people take the attitude of "how did you not notice this?" I think you should demand part of your money back, esp. for the "overdraft" protection if they have some sort of card protection and the thieves took out money anyway. Somone I know got her purse stolen recently and unfortunately her cash was gone for good but she stuck the bank with the problem that someone else activated her unactivated card and obviously the shopkeepers where the thief spent all the money didn't even bother to check signature/ID and notice that the thief wasn't Indian.

jocelyn (Jocelyn), Wednesday, 18 January 2006 16:52 (nineteen years ago)

I guess I have to speak directly with the manager at the branch where I cashed the savings bonds. She's in meetings today & I'm to call her tomorrow morning. I think I'm going to aim to get all the money back (banks can swallow that kind of money, right?)& hopefully get half.

R. Kelsey (kelstarry), Wednesday, 18 January 2006 16:53 (nineteen years ago)

You know, I'd probably take my money out of the bank if that happened to me. I've been thinking about doing that and putting it all into the U of C credit union anyway. The only obstacle is my bank has a branch at the end of my block, and the credit union is way down here. Still, I'd probably be better off in the long run.

Df'nM (OutDatWay), Wednesday, 18 January 2006 16:55 (nineteen years ago)

Just raise hell until they give you what you want. You are their customer!!

The Milkmaid (of human kindness) (The Milkmaid), Wednesday, 18 January 2006 16:56 (nineteen years ago)

After I speak to the manager lady, I'm emptying my accounts & taking my money elsewhere. I hate that dumb ass bank.

R. Kelsey (kelstarry), Wednesday, 18 January 2006 17:01 (nineteen years ago)

Irritatingly enough, I'm probably switching to that bank from B of Amerika, who bought out Fleet and who I HATE with the fiery passion etc, both for business reasons and for their horrifying bank/card/literature designs. Also because they use their lists of customer mailing addresses to send out JUNK MAIL in official bank envelopes, as a "SPECIAL OFFER" to BOA customers. My ass.

Raise hell, Kelz. Every time they give you an answer you don't like, keep saying, "I'm sorry, we're going to have to find a better solution. I'm your customer and this is my money we're talking about." Worked for me. The word "unacceptable" came up a lot, too.

Laurel (Laurel), Wednesday, 18 January 2006 17:07 (nineteen years ago)

Fuck a bank.

I finally saw 40-Year-Old Virgin last night. I liked it, thought it mostly amusing, but didn't go nuts over it. Someone on the ILE thread about it said it wasn't as absurd as they thought it would be, and I'd agree with that. But then again, I have absolutely no experience with the career of Judd Apatow, so I wasn't familiar with his tone and probably just thought it would be like Anchorman or something (which is probably a funnier movie). Lots of nice touches, though, esp. Catherine Keener: I don't know who else could've pulled off that role.

jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 18 January 2006 17:09 (nineteen years ago)

xpost - Yeah, and tell them that they will lose a customer if this isn't handled "properly." Ask for managers and supervisors and don't give up!

The Milkmaid (of human kindness) (The Milkmaid), Wednesday, 18 January 2006 17:09 (nineteen years ago)

Wait, Judd Apatow did Freaks and Geeks, right? I love that show.

Df'nM (OutDatWay), Wednesday, 18 January 2006 17:10 (nineteen years ago)

so there are what, 5 banks left in the us?

otto midnight (otto midnight), Wednesday, 18 January 2006 17:11 (nineteen years ago)

(xp) Yup, he did. Still have never seen that.

jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 18 January 2006 17:11 (nineteen years ago)

judd apatow was also behind undeclared which was more his solo vehicle as opposed to f&g which was based on the life of paul fieg.

otto midnight (otto midnight), Wednesday, 18 January 2006 17:12 (nineteen years ago)

I was skeptical at first, but have realized its true greatness. Not surprised it got cancelled though.

xpost: Yeah, that is true... I read the DVD notes the other day and am still not sure who is who behind that show.

Df'nM (OutDatWay), Wednesday, 18 January 2006 17:13 (nineteen years ago)

read "kick me" by paul fieg, a lot of the stuff that happens to sam in freaks and geeks happened to paul fieg in real life. also good is the follow up "superstud: how i became a 24 year old virgin". parts of each book are so uncomfortable that they verge on the painful.

otto midnight (otto midnight), Wednesday, 18 January 2006 17:15 (nineteen years ago)

Thanks, Laurel. I think you're right about what to say. HOnestly, it's better that I'm talking to her tomorrow. I'll be calm & firm instead of the verge of hysteria.

R. Kelsey (kelstarry), Wednesday, 18 January 2006 17:17 (nineteen years ago)

Hi Chicago! I don't usually frequent your neat-o thread, but it's good I did today b/c this bank talk reminded me to order new cheques b/c I finally ran out. I'm not a great fan of my bank and I really just use cheques to pay my rent, but they had such a variety to choose from, it surprised me! So I wanted to share that I got cheques that support the Canadian Humane Society (animal shelters) and THEY HAVE KITTENS ON THEM.

And, Laurel, I like your advice.
xpost

rrrobyn (rrrobyn), Wednesday, 18 January 2006 17:17 (nineteen years ago)

I currently use Bridgeview bank, but that sucks since they have no branches downtown, so I have to wait till saturdays to deposit any checks I get that aren't direct deposited. I'm considering changing to Chase, it seems to be the most convient.

Jeff. (Jeff), Wednesday, 18 January 2006 17:40 (nineteen years ago)

DON'T DO IT. W4shington Mutu4l is just up the street . . .

R. Kelsey (kelstarry), Wednesday, 18 January 2006 18:02 (nineteen years ago)

In other banking news, the biggest bank in Korea and other parts of Asia was just bought by a little tiny company in Texas whose biggest shareholder just happens to be...well you-know-who. Creepy.

jocelyn (Jocelyn), Wednesday, 18 January 2006 18:20 (nineteen years ago)

I hate WaMu. I don't like banks that take a known model that works and tries to introduce innovation into the equation. Also see Southwest Airlines.

Jeff. (Jeff), Wednesday, 18 January 2006 18:21 (nineteen years ago)

Hey, so I got an invitation yesterday - sent to my old address a few weeks ago and forwarded - for an art opening this Sat. night in NYC - one of my best friends from high school hit it big as a photographer a few years ago (his photos are at www.alecsoth.com ) and has a big gallery show. I found a ticket out east for cheap cheap and am going - fun fun!

Eazy (Eazy), Wednesday, 18 January 2006 18:22 (nineteen years ago)

all banks suck. i've pretty much stuck with first chicago/chase/bank1/wtf because i like the checkbook with the skyline, and i have a family member who works there and can make a deposit for me if i'm in a pinch. i love the chegall wall by their building too, though that has nothing to do with their bank.

they're not very nice to their employees, but i think that's pretty universal in the industry what with mergers galore and lotsa firings and such as a result.

Juulia (julesbdules), Wednesday, 18 January 2006 18:37 (nineteen years ago)

Hi. I posted a longish banking response, but got Fuled.

I was mostly going to paraphrase the words of my good friend, Jon:

http://www.hanovercollaboration.com/OptimizedPersonalFinance

gbx (skowly), Wednesday, 18 January 2006 18:45 (nineteen years ago)

Variations on a theme: "What are my other options?", "I refuse to believe that a company of this size can't find a way to meet my needs", and "I'll wait right here until you find someone who can help me with that". You do sort of run up against a wall when it comes to the computer systems that actually move and keep track of money between banks -- my impression is that, past a certain level, there really isn't any way around that system for a regular customer (who is not, say, a millionaire or the dictator of a small country).

Laurel (Laurel), Wednesday, 18 January 2006 18:56 (nineteen years ago)

That's a good posting, thanks gbx.

I need to get my money in order, I'm paying off my credit cards this month, I need to set up some sort of savings.

I also need to roll over my 401k from my old job. I hate this stuff, I need a personal accountant.

Jeff. (Jeff), Wednesday, 18 January 2006 19:12 (nineteen years ago)

Oh ho ho, so do I. The problem is, I am so poor at mismanaging my finances that I will never have the money to afford a personal accountant.

jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 18 January 2006 19:14 (nineteen years ago)

Rather: poor at managing my finances. I am quite good at mismanaging them.

jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 18 January 2006 19:14 (nineteen years ago)

I'm paying off my credit cards this month..
When I do this, I'm going to throw a huge party, but it will probably have to be BYOB. ha ha. But, yeah, that's not going to happen for a very long time.

Sarah Kittensmew McLusky (coco), Wednesday, 18 January 2006 19:53 (nineteen years ago)

When I do this, I'm going to throw a huge party, but it will probably have to be BYOB. ha ha. But, yeah, that's not going to happen for a very long time.

This is why I am afraid of credit cards.

gbx (skowly), Wednesday, 18 January 2006 19:58 (nineteen years ago)

Necessary evil, good for building your credit report score at least.

I'm pretty good about not putting trivial stuff on them, most of mine are full auto repair, plane tickets, or other emergency stuff.

Jeff. (Jeff), Wednesday, 18 January 2006 20:04 (nineteen years ago)

i need a doctor and the provider directory for bcbs is driving me insane. anyone have a good medical doctor they'd care to point out to me?

otto midnight (otto midnight), Wednesday, 18 January 2006 20:19 (nineteen years ago)

Oh man, I went through that. I ended up just picking one that was near my house. I figured if he sucked I could always change it in the next open enrollment session. Turned out he was all right and I stayed.

Df'nM (OutDatWay), Wednesday, 18 January 2006 20:27 (nineteen years ago)

fuck it, i've wasted close to an hour on this. i'll just call rush tomorrow and see who accepts my insurance and is accepting new patients. the provider directory for blue cross used to say if the physician was accepting new patients or not now it only says if they're a member or not. frustrating.

otto midnight (otto midnight), Wednesday, 18 January 2006 20:30 (nineteen years ago)

OMG I hate that directory. Every person I called wasn't accepting new patients and I had to go with this super old dude who ended up dying, so I had to transfer doctors to yet another complete stranger. Booo.

The Milkmaid (of human kindness) (The Milkmaid), Wednesday, 18 January 2006 20:31 (nineteen years ago)

this will be the first time i've gone to a doctor in almost 6 years with the exception of when i had to go to a dermatologist three years ago because of a nasty rash i got cleaning out the storage space of my old apartment.

otto midnight (otto midnight), Wednesday, 18 January 2006 20:33 (nineteen years ago)

Hi Chicago! I miss you!

Nutsy the Squirrel (pullapartgirl), Wednesday, 18 January 2006 21:45 (nineteen years ago)

OMG I fucking hate meetings.

http://37signals.com/svn/archives2/meetings_considered_harmful.php

gbx (skowly), Wednesday, 18 January 2006 21:48 (nineteen years ago)

I have to go to a meeting in 11 minutes. It will be boring and I will probably sneak out the back and go home.

The Milkmaid (of human kindness) (The Milkmaid), Wednesday, 18 January 2006 21:49 (nineteen years ago)

HI JENNY!!!

The Milkmaid (of human kindness) (The Milkmaid), Wednesday, 18 January 2006 21:51 (nineteen years ago)

Hi Jenny! You out of town? I started to really miss the city while I was home over Xmas... then I came back and missed being home! Stupid emotions, I hate them so much!

I am happy because our weekly meeting hasn't happened in over a month.

Df'nM (OutDatWay), Wednesday, 18 January 2006 21:52 (nineteen years ago)

Meetings are always painful. Having the whole office talk anything over brings down everyone's intelligence considerably. Now, I'd like a meeting where the boss said, "Everyone in the conference room at 2," and then very quickly conveyed essential information to everyone at once, and then dismissed everyone. "Ok, people. I just brought you in here to say, the fire exits are here here here and here. Now get back to work." See, that I wouldn't mind. Or talk just long enough to get everyone pumped about something (no more than about 20 minutes, I'd say), and then don't take any questions of let people talk. That's one of the biggest troubles with a meeting -- no one takes control of it, and then Trish from Accounts Receivable ends up making the meeting 45 minutes longer than it should be talking about issues that are only pertinent to her. I hate Trish. I want to step on Trish's neck.

Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Wednesday, 18 January 2006 22:31 (nineteen years ago)

I love meetings. It's a great way to break up the day, and it makes me feel productive by asking questions and offering suggestions.

jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 18 January 2006 22:34 (nineteen years ago)

Teacher's pet.

Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Wednesday, 18 January 2006 22:35 (nineteen years ago)

I'm serious, though. It's one of the only times at work when I feel invested in my job. Too bad we only have meetings here about once every two months.

jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 18 January 2006 22:36 (nineteen years ago)

You're right, though, it can also be awkward and tedious. But TALKING!!!

jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 18 January 2006 22:39 (nineteen years ago)

Hey Jenny -- are you taking yoga right now? If so, where do you go?

jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 18 January 2006 22:44 (nineteen years ago)

It takes the right office, I guess. I've only ever worked with idiots, and bosses who were determined to let them be idiots during meetings. So it goes like this:

Employee: "Hey, here's a completely asinine suggestion that will never work."

Boss: "That's an interesting suggestion. What do we think of this?"

Other employee #1: "I don't know. That might work. We could do this and this stupid thing that's totally in the service of an idea that's asinine to begin with."

Other employee #2: "We certainly could! And while we're doing that, let's do this other stupid thing."

Other employee #3: "Let's turn the third floor into a hen house!"

Boss: *writes all this down, looking deeply interested*

Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Wednesday, 18 January 2006 22:55 (nineteen years ago)

My 100th bday is going to be on a friday. I want to make tenative plans right now.

Jeff. (Jeff), Wednesday, 18 January 2006 22:57 (nineteen years ago)

I love meetings. It's a great way to break up the day, and it makes me feel productive by asking questions and offering suggestions.

I don't think we can ever be friends, John.

gbx (skowly), Wednesday, 18 January 2006 22:58 (nineteen years ago)

Jeff, if we both live to be 100, I'm buying the heroin that night.

Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Wednesday, 18 January 2006 23:00 (nineteen years ago)

I don't think we can ever be friends, John.

All you should read into that, probably, is that I'm not stimulated enough at work.

jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 18 January 2006 23:02 (nineteen years ago)

I'm just home from the Beat Kitchen and bars in between. We asked the bartender there about the show tomorrow night (OK, tonight) and she knew nothing about it. I think there was a noizey show there tonight. An Albatross? I don't know anything about them. It seems like a pretty cool venue though. I think my friend Tomas and I will be there for the FF...

Df'nM (OutDatWay), Thursday, 19 January 2006 07:25 (nineteen years ago)

What time are the FFs playing?

Eazy (Eazy), Thursday, 19 January 2006 07:32 (nineteen years ago)

I'm guessing 10:30 or 11? We're playing second. We were a last-minute add because another band cancelled, so I wouldn't be surprised if the bartender didn't know we were playing. Their page says the show starts at 9pm, but I doubt it will really start then. I don't know. I'm so helpful! :-D

Sarah Kittensmew McLusky (coco), Thursday, 19 January 2006 15:09 (nineteen years ago)

i've never been to a show at the beat kitchen that started before 10. if there's 3 bands on the bill it probably won't start until 10:30. if the site says 9 i'm guessing that's when they open the doors to the music room from the restaurant/bar area. so maybe 9:30 if there are 4 bands? i don't know, it's all speculation on my part.

otto midnight (otto midnight), Thursday, 19 January 2006 15:13 (nineteen years ago)

There are 3 bands.

Sarah Kittensmew McLusky (coco), Thursday, 19 January 2006 15:28 (nineteen years ago)

I might not be able to come tonight after all. I stayed up until 4 am talking to Megan and Matt, and so I'm really fucking tired ... but the conversation also prompted a lot of soul-searching (Megan really drilled me on some stuff), so I think it was ultimately worth it.

jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 19 January 2006 16:54 (nineteen years ago)

B-but, John! I was looking forward to seeing your smiling face tonight! I think part of your soul-searching should involve watching the FF more. :-D

Sarah Kittensmew McLusky (coco), Thursday, 19 January 2006 17:01 (nineteen years ago)

Ugh. I'm slightly hungover today, but I think it's mostly tiredness after my late night last night. Waiting for the Western bus took foreeeeever. I should be able to make it tonight, but I'm reserving final judgement for after practice.

Df'nM (OutDatWay), Thursday, 19 January 2006 17:14 (nineteen years ago)

It's Thursday night! It's party time!

A coworker is on my case today. I've heard her talking about me twice behind my back (both times about how I dress like a bag lady/ do I even look in the mirror before I leave the house?) and then she went off about me IN FRONT of me about how SOME PEOPLE don't file incoming faxes into the appropriate boxes. Everyone knows that's my job. She's just pissed because she's in trouble for losing something, so she's determined that I lost it. GRRR!

Sarah Kittensmew McLusky (coco), Thursday, 19 January 2006 17:42 (nineteen years ago)

stolen from gapersblock:

view from the sears tower, 1979:
http://flickr.com/photos/corydalus/32762838/in/pool-gapers_block/

compared to view from sears tower today:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/superhappyindustries/88028985/

otto midnight (otto midnight), Thursday, 19 January 2006 17:47 (nineteen years ago)

Sarah, it always seems like you work in the WORST office! Or at least there are a fair number of people there who need to drop by the clue store and stock the hell up.

Laurel (Laurel), Thursday, 19 January 2006 17:49 (nineteen years ago)

Seriously. Your coworkers sound awful.

gbx (skowly), Thursday, 19 January 2006 17:55 (nineteen years ago)

2x gbx and Laurel...

Df'nM (OutDatWay), Thursday, 19 January 2006 17:58 (nineteen years ago)

I look like shit today, but I don't think anyone would actually care enough to say anything. That sucks, Sarah.

jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 19 January 2006 17:59 (nineteen years ago)

I feel like I definitely put an effort into what I wear, at least if making an effort means trying on 3 different outfits and subsequently throwing them across the room in the morning. I always end up having to run to catch the bus. I think she's just JEALOUS. HA! Take That!

Sarah Kittensmew McLusky (coco), Thursday, 19 January 2006 18:03 (nineteen years ago)

Heh, speaking of looking lousy, I just dripped yogurt on my shirt.

Df'nM (OutDatWay), Thursday, 19 January 2006 18:05 (nineteen years ago)

I don't think I work in the worst office. I think I just have a tendency to notice the worst in people.

What flavor, Dan?

Sarah Kittensmew McLusky (coco), Thursday, 19 January 2006 18:06 (nineteen years ago)

Strawberry Mango (not really that good, I don't think I'll buy this one again)

Df'nM (OutDatWay), Thursday, 19 January 2006 18:08 (nineteen years ago)

Hi guys. I'm home sick today, coughing up a lung and feeling achy. (Achey?)

Sarah, it seems pretty clear that your coworkers are jealous. You're cool, tall, beautiful and in a rock band. They are not. There's not any other conceivable excuse for the shitty comments.

The Milkmaid (of human kindness) (The Milkmaid), Thursday, 19 January 2006 18:08 (nineteen years ago)

Thank you, Amanda. You made my day. I hope you feel much, much better, and not just because you said nice things about me. Are you too sick to watch movies/read? Have you been making yourself sleep it off?

It's so pretty outside right now. I hope you all have a chance to at least look out a window.

Sarah Kittensmew McLusky (coco), Thursday, 19 January 2006 18:57 (nineteen years ago)

Sarah you always look cute in the pictures that I've seen! Tres Chic!
Amanda I think I'm getting a cold too, which is annoying because I'm supposed to go to a baby shower tomorrow night.

jocie, Thursday, 19 January 2006 19:01 (nineteen years ago)

The dogs and I are all sleeping it off, but I also am trying to get some other shit done as well, since I'm here and all...

The Milkmaid (of human kindness) (The Milkmaid), Thursday, 19 January 2006 19:08 (nineteen years ago)

It's really hard to just relax and stay in bed when you're sick, because you think you should be opening bills/doing dishes/misc other stuff you have to be at home to do..., but you should get yourself some gingerale or hot tea, take some meds, and make yourself sleep. DO IT!

Sarah Kittensmew McLusky (coco), Thursday, 19 January 2006 19:12 (nineteen years ago)

Hey Jaymc, your man Fagen is coming to town next month.

Eazy (Eazy), Thursday, 19 January 2006 20:29 (nineteen years ago)

Is there a date, then? Where is it?

jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 19 January 2006 20:36 (nineteen years ago)

I hope this means Amanda is sleeping.

Do you know what I love? Apples. Is that so wrong?

Sarah Kittensmew McLusky (coco), Thursday, 19 January 2006 21:26 (nineteen years ago)

they're wonderful with cheese. or peanut butter. or plain. how could that ever be wrong?

Juulia (julesbdules), Thursday, 19 January 2006 21:27 (nineteen years ago)

I had some chicken salad with apples and raisins in it today. DEEEEEEELISH

Df'nM (OutDatWay), Thursday, 19 January 2006 21:29 (nineteen years ago)

John - He's at the Chicago Theater - same Saturday as SXSW, I think, but if you don't end up going...(saw an ad for it in the Reader).

Ah, apples. Ah, applesauce, too.

Eazy (Eazy), Thursday, 19 January 2006 21:39 (nineteen years ago)

I luv you chicago weather!

deej.. (deej..), Friday, 20 January 2006 00:18 (nineteen years ago)

I have a job in the loop now (first one), stepping outside after work today was gorgeous and exciting. Love this city.

deej.. (deej..), Friday, 20 January 2006 00:19 (nineteen years ago)

I just had the best ride home I've had since this fall (not counting FUNZONE, of course).

gbx (skowly), Friday, 20 January 2006 00:27 (nineteen years ago)

HOLY FUCK -- anyone going? The Chicago Reader made 'em sound pretty good.

gbx (skowly), Friday, 20 January 2006 00:53 (nineteen years ago)

Scratch that: my roommate brought home a PROJECTOR from work and now we are watching 6' movies on our wall.


HOLLER.

gbx (skowly), Friday, 20 January 2006 02:30 (nineteen years ago)

I like Holy Fuck. I am not going however.

Jeff. (Jeff), Friday, 20 January 2006 02:40 (nineteen years ago)

Note: Movie projectors are A-1

gbx (skowly), Friday, 20 January 2006 05:03 (nineteen years ago)

hello, i'm still lurking on your threads, although usually only when they start since they get long and hard to keep up with pretty quickly.

i just wanted to chime in and say that from all the pictures i've seen of sarah, you always dress in a way that is cool and unique. she's probably just uncomfortable with anything that isn't from abercrombie/banana republic...

colette (a2lette), Friday, 20 January 2006 12:31 (nineteen years ago)

Or DC Republican housewives stores like Ann Taylor and Talbots.
Hey Chicago: Should I go see The New World? Have any of you cats seen it yet?

jocelyn (Jocelyn), Friday, 20 January 2006 13:35 (nineteen years ago)

I think it just opened here today, Jocelyn. I really want to see it.

jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 20 January 2006 14:26 (nineteen years ago)

I have a very bad feeling today is going to be about a million years long. I could really use, like, a fire drill or some unexpected diversion in which no one is actually hurt.

Laurel (Laurel), Friday, 20 January 2006 14:32 (nineteen years ago)

I could really use, like, a fire drill or some unexpected diversion in which no one is actually hurt.

yeah, i wish we didn't have emergency generators here. i remember when i lived in massachusetts there would be the occaisonal 2 hour delay at work when someone would slide off the road during a snow storm and take out a telephone pole knocking out electricity to our building. we'd bust out the booze and the dudes from the sales pit would come over to the engineering side of the building (it was a huge open space) and we'd play wiffle ball. loved those days, everyone who worked there did. there would be the occaisonal "hey hutch, why don't you do us a favor and go drive into the telephone poll?" jokes when people got antsy. then we moved to a bigger building and that kind of fell by the wayside.

otto midnight (otto midnight), Friday, 20 January 2006 14:38 (nineteen years ago)

I really want to see New World too, John. You should convince Nick that it should be part of our weekend activities. It's educational! Ed-U-Ca-Tion-TION-TION-tiON!...

Thanks, colette.

The show was fun last night. The new Beat K1tchen stage is weird. I like that it's more open, but at the same time I miss the curtains. Also, the stage somehow seems smaller.

Sarah Kittensmew McLusky (coco), Friday, 20 January 2006 14:40 (nineteen years ago)

FFers: I am sorry I didn't come to your show but I was way too tired. It's good to hear that it went well.

Df'nM (OutDatWay), Friday, 20 January 2006 15:09 (nineteen years ago)

Hi dudes. I'm back. I'm feeling mostly better.

The Milkmaid (of human kindness) (The Milkmaid), Friday, 20 January 2006 15:13 (nineteen years ago)

Hurrah!

Laurel (Laurel), Friday, 20 January 2006 15:17 (nineteen years ago)

Is anyone up for karaoke one week from tomorrow? My friend from school and I are planning a post-comps karaoke blow out and anyone who wants (dares) to join us is welcome...

The Milkmaid (of human kindness) (The Milkmaid), Friday, 20 January 2006 15:33 (nineteen years ago)

Next Saturday I'm playing a loft partay in Plzn. I can't sing anyway :D

Df'nM (OutDatWay), Friday, 20 January 2006 15:59 (nineteen years ago)

Oh, that's the same night as the fabled loft party? Oh well. Hey, I can't sing either, but it doesn't stop me from wanting to.

The Milkmaid (of human kindness) (The Milkmaid), Friday, 20 January 2006 16:09 (nineteen years ago)

Ooo Amanda! I just emailed Jeff saying that I was craving another group karaoke outing! I'm in!

I'm stupid busy these days, but I miss you guys and want to go out this weekend if anybody is doing anything. Email me! Let's PARTY! Moderately, though. I have a lot of reading to do.

:(

Nutsy the Squirrel (pullapartgirl), Friday, 20 January 2006 16:17 (nineteen years ago)

Yaaaay! One week from tomorrow, after 1:30pm I will be a new person.

The Milkmaid (of human kindness) (The Milkmaid), Friday, 20 January 2006 16:21 (nineteen years ago)

Oh, I just saw questions up there.

No, I'm not out of town. School started and there is work, and I am adjusting to being crazy busy and don't have much on-line time.

Yoga - I take a yoga and meditation class in the loop (DePaul chapel, actually) everything Thursday at 4:30. It's $50 for ten classes or $7 drop it. It's very easy and gentle and more about relaxing and learning breathing techniques and various meditations and I fucking love it.

I'm looking for another class (or two) that are more active, but I'm having a hard time finding one with convenient times and locations that teaches a discipline I like. I tried Kundalini yoga last Saturday and I'm not sure that's what I'm looking for. Jesse and I have tenative plans to try out a different studio this Saturday, but I don't know where we're going yet.

But John, you are welcome to join us on any of our yoga adventures. It's fun and good for you!

Nutsy the Squirrel (pullapartgirl), Friday, 20 January 2006 16:31 (nineteen years ago)

Ow ow I am soooooore from my yoga last night, but mostly upper-body & core stuff, which isn't too bad. Sore in the walking muscles in the worst, there's no way to NOT use them.

Laurel (Laurel), Friday, 20 January 2006 16:43 (nineteen years ago)

a few days ago i was looking for a cheaper place to live and i've become really discouraged. to the point where when i go to craigslist i've stopped looking for places within my price range and have started day dreaming about the most expensive places on there. keeping with that, who wants to live here with me?

otto midnight (otto midnight), Friday, 20 January 2006 16:50 (nineteen years ago)

wow, that place is beauuuutiful. heated floors? i've never even heard of that.

The Milkmaid (of human kindness) (The Milkmaid), Friday, 20 January 2006 16:55 (nineteen years ago)

That's what my landlord is going to start turning my house into when we move out in April. Can't blame them though, they live on the 1st floor with 3 small kids.

Df'nM (OutDatWay), Friday, 20 January 2006 16:57 (nineteen years ago)

That's preeeeetttttyyyyy. Also, it's deck party central.

Amanda, I'm glad you're feeling better! I want to kareoke, but maybe we could try Pontiac Grill's live band kareoke? It's probably really f'n crowded, but I've heard it's a lot of fun and that the band is great too. Just an idea?

Sarah Kittensmew McLusky (coco), Friday, 20 January 2006 17:05 (nineteen years ago)

It is really crowded, me and Jenny went on our first visit to Chicago. She sang War Pigs.

You would have to get there early to find a good place to stand, and you can't really hear conversations.

Jeff. (Jeff), Friday, 20 January 2006 17:08 (nineteen years ago)

So check this out: My sister's life has been like a not-quite-as-bad version of one of the 24 series the last 24 hours. She went to a conference. After 24 hours, 30 of the 120 participants came down with the flu and either went home or were quarantined to their hotel rooms, so they decided to end the conference early. So then she went home and started throwing up. Fun!

Jeff, do you know of anywhere else we could go other than Hidden Cove?

Sarah Kittensmew McLusky (coco), Friday, 20 January 2006 17:10 (nineteen years ago)

There's Midori on Bryn Mawr, but it's pretty far west. I really am not too into the live-band karaoke because there's this expectation that people have to be good and I am clearly and definitely not good. Also, WAY crowded.

The Milkmaid (of human kindness) (The Milkmaid), Friday, 20 January 2006 17:15 (nineteen years ago)

I think it's called Midori?

The Milkmaid (of human kindness) (The Milkmaid), Friday, 20 January 2006 17:15 (nineteen years ago)

Uh-oh.

I am now sick from hooking up last weekend. And, perhaps irrationally, I'm concerned that it isn't JUST A COLD.

gbx (skowly), Friday, 20 January 2006 17:17 (nineteen years ago)

Private room karaoke, anyone?

jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 20 January 2006 17:17 (nineteen years ago)

How do you know the sickness was from hooking up, gbx? Did she have a cold?

jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 20 January 2006 17:17 (nineteen years ago)

What do we look like, JAPANESE?

Do they even have private room karaoke outside of Lost in Translation?

xpost -- she mentioned something about a cold, yes.

gbx (skowly), Friday, 20 January 2006 17:19 (nineteen years ago)

Yes, I went to a private karaoke place in NYC and I know there are some Korean places that have them in Chicago, but I fear that they're in/near the burbs.

The Milkmaid (of human kindness) (The Milkmaid), Friday, 20 January 2006 17:20 (nineteen years ago)

Also, DanM and whoever else: Our next FF show will be WITH CANASTA out in the burbs, so you could get a double whammy of ILX banddome (Sat, Feb 11th at the Wheat0n Grand).

Ooh! Private room kareoke would be great because we wouldn't have to wait while strangers sing that song from Grease that's 20 minutes long.

Sarah Kittensmew McLusky (coco), Friday, 20 January 2006 17:20 (nineteen years ago)

Eazy did private-room karaoke for a bachelor party a while back.

Me and a bunch of Stylus writers did private-room karaoke in NYC a few months ago. Setlist.

jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 20 January 2006 17:21 (nineteen years ago)

There's a karoke bar called Karoke Bar at California and Damen that has private rooms.

Eazy (Eazy), Friday, 20 January 2006 17:24 (nineteen years ago)

Uh, California and Damen don't intersect?

jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 20 January 2006 17:24 (nineteen years ago)

California and Devon, I mean - but on California. The karoke books in that place are like five NYC phone books stacked on top of each other.

The FFs were blazing last night.

Definitely want to see The New World, especially after reading a review of the recut version...

Eazy (Eazy), Friday, 20 January 2006 17:25 (nineteen years ago)

xpost to myself

Which reminds me:

I was seeing this Swiss girl, M, when I was living in Ireland. About a week after we first...met, I got an ear infection. Naturally, I called up my dad (doc) for a consultation:

gbx: Hey Dad.
Dad: Hey E, what's up? How are things with M?
gbx: Fine. I have an ear infection. What's up with THAT?
D: Weird. Have you been sick otherwise?
gbx: No.
D: Have you been swimming?
gbx: No.
D: Huh. Well, it could be a lot of things, you know if you blow your nose and then pick your ear or something.
gbx: Yeah.
D: Or if, like, someone sticks their tongue in it.
gbx: ...
D: Well, I hope you feel better.
gbx: Thanks, Dad.

gbx (skowly), Friday, 20 January 2006 17:26 (nineteen years ago)

I want to make out with a Swiss girl.

Eric, I just reread your LJ post about that karaoke bar, and it makes me really want to go.

jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 20 January 2006 17:28 (nineteen years ago)

I don't want to be sick this weekend.

:(

gbx (skowly), Friday, 20 January 2006 17:31 (nineteen years ago)

That place sounds pretty rad. I'll run it past me friend and see if maybe we go there!?!?

The Milkmaid (of human kindness) (The Milkmaid), Friday, 20 January 2006 17:31 (nineteen years ago)

Tonight, we (SH4RKS) are heading to the Abbey Pub (i think), to watch my friend's co-worker's band play: The New Duncan Imperials.

I might just go to bed, though.

gbx (skowly), Friday, 20 January 2006 17:33 (nineteen years ago)

Does your friend work at the Beat Kitchen? (Because one of the dudes from the NDIs works at the Beat Kitchen.)

jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 20 January 2006 17:36 (nineteen years ago)

(He's the surly bowtie-wearing bartender.)

jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 20 January 2006 17:36 (nineteen years ago)

No: he's a 42 yr old Montessori teacher that's bros with Tweedy.

gbx (skowly), Friday, 20 January 2006 17:38 (nineteen years ago)

The New Duncan Imperials were pretty big stuff here a few years ago, toward the end of the swing revival.

The one thing to check out with kararoke rooms beforehand is the rates - I was part of a bachelor party, and we had a big room that fit 8 of us comfortably (and could have fit more), but it might have been $120.

John: like this?
http://www.gamerevolution.com/oldsite/games/xbox/action/blinx_2_swiss.jpg

Eazy (Eazy), Friday, 20 January 2006 17:38 (nineteen years ago)

Hott.

jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 20 January 2006 17:39 (nineteen years ago)

Those saucer eyes.

Eazy (Eazy), Friday, 20 January 2006 17:40 (nineteen years ago)

I was talking about the cocoa.

jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 20 January 2006 17:40 (nineteen years ago)

xpost - Eeek. That's a lot of $$.

The Milkmaid (of human kindness) (The Milkmaid), Friday, 20 January 2006 17:40 (nineteen years ago)

j, there's a Swiss girl that runs with the SAIC art-kid crowd I know, and she is prime make-out material. There's an Icelandic girl too...

Df'nM (OutDatWay), Friday, 20 January 2006 17:41 (nineteen years ago)

HOOKUPS PLZ, DAN.

gbx (skowly), Friday, 20 January 2006 17:43 (nineteen years ago)

That would be (*computer noises*) about $15 a person, assuming we had the exact number of people actually show up and assuming that's the real rate.

Sarah Kittensmew McLusky (coco), Friday, 20 January 2006 17:44 (nineteen years ago)

Yeah, that's about what it was like in NYC, too.

I need to go to these art-school parties. Art students are hot.

jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 20 January 2006 17:45 (nineteen years ago)

I'd do it if I could, but I don't know 'em that well. If you dudes come to the party I'll point you in the right direction though.

xpost*2

Df'nM (OutDatWay), Friday, 20 January 2006 17:46 (nineteen years ago)

I think the pre-med outdoorsman may be more of a catch than me.

jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 20 January 2006 17:48 (nineteen years ago)

The smaller rooms are less expensive, but they might hold 4-6 people.

Hey, so it's called Karaoke Restaurant, at 6248 N. California Ave., 773-274-1166

This is exhausting to read:
http://www.thekaraokezonechi.com/pages/1/index.htm

Eazy (Eazy), Friday, 20 January 2006 17:49 (nineteen years ago)

My friend who lives in Osaka goes to private karaoke rooms all the time, because he says in Japan the drinks and snacks are included in the cost of the room. So I think we all need to open a karaoke bar like that here and make lots of $$.

jocelyn (Jocelyn), Friday, 20 January 2006 17:51 (nineteen years ago)

I think the pre-med outdoorsman may be more of a catch than me.

Only if he'll stand still long enough for someone to catch him, Jay.

Laurel (Laurel), Friday, 20 January 2006 17:52 (nineteen years ago)

http://mryamamoto.topcities.com/zappa/montana01.jpg

jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 20 January 2006 17:55 (nineteen years ago)

I need to go to these art-school parties. Art students are hot.

YES.

...jon, you are in a ROCK BAND. Girls LOVE that.


Dan: I will go where directed.

gbx (skowly), Friday, 20 January 2006 18:14 (nineteen years ago)

http://www.mactavishland.ca/pictures/tumbleweed.jpg

I will not be tied down!

gbx (skowly), Friday, 20 January 2006 18:15 (nineteen years ago)

Oh fine, I'll be the one to break it to you. Art students tie you up, not down.

The Milkmaid (of human kindness) (The Milkmaid), Friday, 20 January 2006 19:28 (nineteen years ago)

I'm nervous about our gig tonight. Not so much because it's been like 5 years since I played in front of people, but because the V1aduct only has a vocal PA and no drum or instrument mics. On top of that, there's a play going on right before the show so we don't get a sound check!

xpost: hott

Df'nM (OutDatWay), Friday, 20 January 2006 19:28 (nineteen years ago)

What play? Is it unrelated to the rock show?

How big is the Viaduct? I used to completely hate having instruments miked, but mostly that was because I played guitar in a punk band and always felt like I wasn't loud enough. These days, I think it really helps us because our drummer doesn't have a very loud playing style - or a big kit for that matter.

Sarah Kittensmew McLusky (coco), Friday, 20 January 2006 19:32 (nineteen years ago)

I dunno what play it is. Sc0tt, our bass player, has been to several plays put on there and has had nothing but good things to say about them.

I also don't know how big the space is! (I'm kinda clueless) The reasons I'm worried are 1) We have a keyboardist with a not-very-big amp, 2) we have no time to balance out the levels between instruments 3) our singer is kind of quiet. I'm not worried about being able to hear the drums, I play too loud anyway. :)

Df'nM (OutDatWay), Friday, 20 January 2006 19:39 (nineteen years ago)

The Viaduct is principally a theatre space that just happens to put on rock shows ... it used to be a once-in-a-while sort of thing, but now it's a lot more frequent.

There are two spaces: one is rather small, and the other is pretty big. I don't know where a show like this is held. When gbx and I went there for the Pitchfork thing, it was in the larger space, but I don't know what they do with local shows like this.

jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 20 January 2006 19:42 (nineteen years ago)

I'm pretty sure it's in the smaller space (the "cabaret" stage, I thought I heard it called?)

Df'nM (OutDatWay), Friday, 20 January 2006 19:45 (nineteen years ago)

WHO WANTS TO PARTY WITH ME THIS WEEKEND?

n/a (Nick A.), Friday, 20 January 2006 19:50 (nineteen years ago)

I like to party.

I think tonight's my only night of going out, if at all: Sunday's part DEUX of the Tour Da Chicago!

gbx (skowly), Friday, 20 January 2006 19:55 (nineteen years ago)

I'll be at Fitzgerald's tonight if anyone is interested.

R. Kelsey (kelstarry), Friday, 20 January 2006 19:59 (nineteen years ago)

What is Fitzgeralds, and can I eat it?

Sarah Kittensmew McLusky (coco), Friday, 20 January 2006 20:01 (nineteen years ago)

Here's the deal: I was complaining last week about how we never go out on Friday night because Sarah just likes to relax at home on Friday night but I like to go out and do stuff, so she decided that we would each be in charge of a weekend and decide everything we do that weekend and see whose weekend is more fun. So I'm in charge this weekend and I have to plan some FUNSTUFF. In teh FUNZONE. There are several options for tonight. But also I'm at a disadvantage because we played a show last night and now we're tired.

n/a (Nick A.), Friday, 20 January 2006 20:02 (nineteen years ago)

Fitzgerald's is in the SUBURBS.

jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 20 January 2006 20:02 (nineteen years ago)

Sex can be stay-at-home fun.

R. Kelsey (kelstarry), Friday, 20 January 2006 20:02 (nineteen years ago)

WRONG WEEKEND, KELSEY.

gbx (skowly), Friday, 20 January 2006 20:04 (nineteen years ago)

I think we're going to hang at the hopleaf tonight for a little while.

Jeff. (Jeff), Friday, 20 January 2006 20:07 (nineteen years ago)

Oh REALLY? Because I'm having dinner at Rioja at 7.

jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 20 January 2006 20:10 (nineteen years ago)

I like FitzGeralds a lot. It doesn't feel like the suburbs - it's Berwyn, so it seems like a club on the northwest side. Jay Farrar and Robbie Fulks and others are playing there tonight, part of all the charity fundraiser shows this weekend.

There's a hipster literary party at the Bottle tonight.

I have to review that play that's in the small theater at the Viaduct, but I won't be there tonight.

Eazy (Eazy), Friday, 20 January 2006 20:16 (nineteen years ago)

PUBCRAWL: http://tinyurl.com/9ztjx

Fitzgerald's was not included because it is in the SUBURBS

gbx (skowly), Friday, 20 January 2006 20:18 (nineteen years ago)

I thought the Bottle was having a rock show tonight (bound stems?).

Sarah Kittensmew McLusky (coco), Friday, 20 January 2006 20:19 (nineteen years ago)

Well, I'd be glad to see any of you guys there tonight, but I understand if you can't make it.

Debauchery at nearby establishments will probably follow the show.

Df'nM (OutDatWay), Friday, 20 January 2006 20:19 (nineteen years ago)

(Hey, not to toot toot, but the show I designed lights for at Live Bair got a critic's choice in the Reader this week - it's pay-what-you-can at the door and worth seeing: http://www.chicagoreader.com/listings/static/listings.html#LETTER )

xpost I think it's a rock show sponsored by a literary press.

Eazy (Eazy), Friday, 20 January 2006 20:22 (nineteen years ago)

bottle tonight is make magazine release party with bound stems, i need sleep, and ramona cordova.

hoyle bros. early. i usually do my laundry at retro wash and go over for beers and honky tonk music but i'm going to see the little woman tonight straight from work. i don't know how much longer she will be the little woman, much to my dismay.

otto midnight (otto midnight), Friday, 20 January 2006 20:23 (nineteen years ago)

Too many cupcakes?

Eazy (Eazy), Friday, 20 January 2006 20:27 (nineteen years ago)

They grow up so fast, otto.

gbx (skowly), Friday, 20 January 2006 20:28 (nineteen years ago)

Too many cupcakes?

if only.

otto midnight (otto midnight), Friday, 20 January 2006 20:29 (nineteen years ago)

I feel your pain Otto.

Df'nM (OutDatWay), Friday, 20 January 2006 20:31 (nineteen years ago)

not pain, yet. just mild discomfort due to a conversation last night. it wasn't a "pack yr bags" conversation but there was a definite "don't bother taking off your coat" vibe to it.

oh well, she was way out of my league anyway.

otto midnight (otto midnight), Friday, 20 January 2006 20:36 (nineteen years ago)

i like fitzgerald's too. i'm going b/c it's my friend's birthday & that's what she wants to do tonight. otherwise i'd probably be more hermit-y & drink local & pass out local.

R. Kelsey (kelstarry), Friday, 20 January 2006 20:41 (nineteen years ago)

xpost:Don't say that, otto!

Hey guys, check out this AWESOME survey on weather.com!
What do you think of the recent above-normal winter temperatures?
* It has been great! I hope it keeps up.
* I miss the cold & snow. Bring back winter!
* Above-normal? It hasn't been warm in my hometown!

Sarah Kittensmew McLusky (coco), Friday, 20 January 2006 20:44 (nineteen years ago)

The funny thing about that survey is that it serves no actual purpose ... nobody can do anything with the results to, like, make customers happier.

jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 20 January 2006 20:53 (nineteen years ago)

Work = BOREZONE

I'm going home early.

Df'nM (OutDatWay), Friday, 20 January 2006 21:03 (nineteen years ago)

I think that I am going to ask to go home early.

gbx (skowly), Friday, 20 January 2006 21:11 (nineteen years ago)

Sarah and I will be at the Empty Bottle tonight if anyone wants to say hi. Probably get there around 10:30ish.

n/a (Nick A.), Saturday, 21 January 2006 02:55 (nineteen years ago)

Oh wow. I just went for a little walk to the store, and the snow is BEAUTIFUL. It's really, really wet, which makes it pile up high and fast on even the tiniest tree branches. It looks like a freakin' Christmas card out there.

Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Saturday, 21 January 2006 04:46 (nineteen years ago)

http://giganticmag.com/images/ilx/snowy_tree.jpg

Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Saturday, 21 January 2006 05:22 (nineteen years ago)

http://giganticmag.com/images/ilx/snowy_window.jpg

Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Saturday, 21 January 2006 05:23 (nineteen years ago)

Hi dere!

fyi: staying in on a Friday night, simply to catch up on sleep, is something that I haven't done in YEARS. I feel a LOT better.

gbx (skowly), Saturday, 21 January 2006 15:04 (nineteen years ago)

http://static.flickr.com/32/89325796_e6f655ce18.jpg

this is how my night ended.

Jeff. (Jeff), Saturday, 21 January 2006 17:55 (nineteen years ago)

cuet!

gbx (skowly), Saturday, 21 January 2006 18:09 (nineteen years ago)

Haha, I think I've been in a similar position on that floor before.

jaymc (jaymc), Saturday, 21 January 2006 19:55 (nineteen years ago)

So has Kenan. And Jesse.

Not me, though.

Nutsy the Squirrel (pullapartgirl), Saturday, 21 January 2006 20:48 (nineteen years ago)

pic = me last friday.

gbx (skowly), Saturday, 21 January 2006 20:49 (nineteen years ago)

I have been in a similar position on our bathroom floor.

Nutsy the Squirrel (pullapartgirl), Saturday, 21 January 2006 20:50 (nineteen years ago)

The funniest part, I thought, was that when I started taking pictures, Jeff, moving nothing but his arm, started pulling things out of the trash can and blindly throwing them around the room in a mumbly protest against my photographing him in such a compromising position. Thankfully, the trash can was mostly empty.

Nutsy the Squirrel (pullapartgirl), Saturday, 21 January 2006 20:51 (nineteen years ago)

haw

gbx (skowly), Saturday, 21 January 2006 20:59 (nineteen years ago)

This is an "action" shot of the protest.

Nutsy the Squirrel (pullapartgirl), Saturday, 21 January 2006 21:40 (nineteen years ago)

Jenny, you are cold and cruel.

Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Saturday, 21 January 2006 21:54 (nineteen years ago)

So has Kenan. And Jesse.

Jeff + Jenny + booze = floor

Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Saturday, 21 January 2006 21:57 (nineteen years ago)

Tags
jeff
drunk

jaymc (jaymc), Saturday, 21 January 2006 22:12 (nineteen years ago)

Bowling 2-nite at Lincoln Square Lanes. You are all invited. Be there at 8:00. Call me or John or Jenny if you need info or if you want to meet up l8er.

n/a (Nick A.), Saturday, 21 January 2006 23:28 (nineteen years ago)

We'll be there. With Jesse. And Nora. And maybe her husband Nick if he doesn't go see Califone. The end.

...or is it?

Nutsy the Squirrel (pullapartgirl), Saturday, 21 January 2006 23:36 (nineteen years ago)

You really know a couple named Nick & Nora? Weird.

n/a (Nick A.), Saturday, 21 January 2006 23:47 (nineteen years ago)

Do they have a dog named Asta? And solve crimes while drunk?

n/a (Nick A.), Saturday, 21 January 2006 23:52 (nineteen years ago)

I'm still hung over.

Jeff. (Jeff), Sunday, 22 January 2006 01:20 (nineteen years ago)

I'm still sick.

LET'S BE FRIENDS.

gbx (skowly), Sunday, 22 January 2006 01:25 (nineteen years ago)

BOOOOOOOOOORRRRRRING.


I'm like this close to going to bed.

gbx (skowly), Sunday, 22 January 2006 03:05 (nineteen years ago)

i hate nights like that. i'm having one too. watched a cary grant movie, talked to my sister for a long time, and now, huh. how is it only a bit after 9 pm?

feel like playing literati or something, giboyeux?

Juulia (julesbdules), Sunday, 22 January 2006 03:11 (nineteen years ago)

I went to the bar, sorry.


I think now I'm going to bed...?

gbx (skowly), Sunday, 22 January 2006 05:34 (nineteen years ago)

Once more, for good measure (thanks for the cold, M_____!):

the problem with sex is that you can go months without having it and be fine and then you have it once and suddenly you're like scarface with the big pile of blow

-- strongo hulkington (dubplatestyl...), April 22nd, 2004.

gbx (skowly), Sunday, 22 January 2006 05:35 (nineteen years ago)

Again, I have no sympathy.

jaymc (jaymc), Sunday, 22 January 2006 09:59 (nineteen years ago)

http://static.flickr.com/18/89743235_e036a5e8ff.jpg
Most Fun Weekend, Nick's entry.

Jeff. (Jeff), Sunday, 22 January 2006 17:19 (nineteen years ago)

Again, I have no sympathy.

D:

But I have the flu!

gbx (skowly), Sunday, 22 January 2006 18:50 (nineteen years ago)

I am very tired, Chicago.

C/D: bike racing w/the flu?

gbx (skowly), Sunday, 22 January 2006 19:04 (nineteen years ago)

Hey Chicago. I trust you all had a good weekend? I'm sitting in the Mpls airport right now.

Portland was alright, I got through my overnights without too much trouble (just some blistered feet). I ate some good food downtown and went to a hipster strip club last night.

Re: Fitzgerald's, I played there a couple of months ago and I really liked it. It seemed like a slow night, but the people there were really nice and it seemed like a comfortable bar to hang out at.

Jordanian, Sunday, 22 January 2006 21:47 (nineteen years ago)

I'm very hungry and want to treat myself. What should I eat, Chicago?

gbx (skowly), Sunday, 22 January 2006 21:54 (nineteen years ago)

NO INDIAN FOOD ON THE WEST SIDE WTF.

gbx (skowly), Sunday, 22 January 2006 22:07 (nineteen years ago)

treat yourself with sushi! i've been totally craving sushi.

Juulia (julesbdules), Sunday, 22 January 2006 22:28 (nineteen years ago)

Juulia, does Agami deliver?

jaymc (jaymc), Sunday, 22 January 2006 22:30 (nineteen years ago)

I'm not sure Sushi is filling enough right now?

The internet says I need 2200 calories right now.

gbx (skowly), Sunday, 22 January 2006 22:32 (nineteen years ago)

apparently not, according to grubhub. it's too expensive anyway.

xp for lots of calories, what first came to mind was frozen custard, but i'm not sure how easy that is to find in chicago, since it's more of a wisconsin thing...

Juulia (julesbdules), Sunday, 22 January 2006 22:33 (nineteen years ago)

or if you really really want to treat yourself, you could go to morton's steakhouse and get a massive $40 filet mignon or the like. i don't think i could justify spending that sort of money on food though.

Juulia (julesbdules), Sunday, 22 January 2006 22:35 (nineteen years ago)

Hahaha OMG.

Dan (I Spend Too Much Money On Food) Perry (Dan Perry), Sunday, 22 January 2006 22:36 (nineteen years ago)

I do too, Dan.

jaymc (jaymc), Sunday, 22 January 2006 22:39 (nineteen years ago)

all i have eaten today: frosted mini wheats and a handful of sun chips. hmm. i have leftover indian in the fridge though.

Juulia (julesbdules), Sunday, 22 January 2006 22:45 (nineteen years ago)

i

gbx (skowly), Sunday, 22 January 2006 22:46 (nineteen years ago)

Perhaps I have eaten at Smith and Wollensky too many times but $40 doesn't sound like an unreasonable price for good filet mignon.

WHY THE FUCK DO I LIVE IN THIS EXPENSIVE ASS CITY

Dan (Fuck You, Boston) Perry (Dan Perry), Sunday, 22 January 2006 22:46 (nineteen years ago)

maybe it isn't, really. though i think filet mignon in the brewpub i used to work cost something like 25 (that was in the suburbs though).

and it's kickass good. but really expensive dinners intimidate me, seeing that i'm not working and stuff.

is chicgo more or less expensive than boston? i remember noticing a difference when i moved, but that was 15 years ago or so...

Juulia (julesbdules), Sunday, 22 January 2006 22:52 (nineteen years ago)

The last time I looked, Boston was WAY more expensive. I don't know what Chicago is like now, though.

We are passively looking at buying a house out here and, well, looking at houses that cost $90K more than what we spent on our current place yet somehow are up to 200 square feet smaller... FUCK THAT.

Dan (In The Eye) Perry (Dan Perry), Sunday, 22 January 2006 22:58 (nineteen years ago)

I ate at Ruth's Chris in downtown Chi when I got hired to my job, and I think that a steak there was over $50.

SUBLIME.

gbx (skowly), Sunday, 22 January 2006 23:10 (nineteen years ago)

Howdy from Astoria. Flaneured around NYC. Went to a friend's high-profile Artforum-ready photography show on Saturday night. Saw Sandra Bernhard enterting a restaurant. Went to a party of recent emigres to Brooklyn from Pittsburgh, including the love-of-my-life-when-I-was-22 and her husband. Ate at Blue Flame, NYC's new gourmet BBQ joint (on par with Smokin' Woody's but not better). Spent time in the Strand and record stores. And saw an amazingly weird show by Richard Foreman - one of those guys who is a major figure in the history of western theater but mounts his shows in a space that seats about 100 people (more info at www.ontological.com), Had a substantial bagel - now I see the difference.

Eazy (Eazy), Monday, 23 January 2006 06:15 (nineteen years ago)

Las Tablas has their steak dinner on special for $5.99 weekdays at lunchtime and it's FANTASTIC.

Steak at Speakeasy is good too, though probably around $25.

Eazy (Eazy), Monday, 23 January 2006 06:16 (nineteen years ago)

Jesse and I just got back from Big Chicks.

jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 23 January 2006 07:34 (nineteen years ago)

Sarah and I will be at the Empty Bottle tonight if anyone wants to say hi. Probably get there around 10:30ish.
-- n/a (nu...), Saturday.

i was there. probably got there about 15-20 minutes before you, only had 4 beers all night.

otto midnight (otto midnight), Monday, 23 January 2006 13:58 (nineteen years ago)

Hi guys. I saw Ben yesterday at Reckless on Broadway. We chatted. I bought 5 records and spent $4.87. I think I have the flu, since this is Day 5 of feeling like shit. Ugh.

The Milkmaid (of human kindness) (The Milkmaid), Monday, 23 January 2006 14:10 (nineteen years ago)

That was the only time I went out all weekend, except for on Saturday AM to take Part 1 of my exam. I survived. Bowling looked like fun!!

The Milkmaid (of human kindness) (The Milkmaid), Monday, 23 January 2006 14:11 (nineteen years ago)

My new year's resolution is to improve my bowling. I want to be able to break 100 consistently.

Jeff. (Jeff), Monday, 23 January 2006 15:24 (nineteen years ago)

So tired this morning.

Jordan (Jordan), Monday, 23 January 2006 15:29 (nineteen years ago)

I can't remember what my final score was, but I was in second place, right? No, third?

Otto, Nick and I were to the left of the stage right in front of the stair railing. Would you have recognized us from pix posted here? I have no idea what you look like. Anyway, I really enjoyed I Need Sleep.

Jeff, the pix you put up of me are not flattering! I am outraged! You will hear from my lawyer.

Sarah Kittensmew McLusky (coco), Monday, 23 January 2006 15:35 (nineteen years ago)

I think bowling scores went like this? (The only one I'm not sure about is Nora...)

1. John
2. Sarah
3. Nick
4. Jesse
5. Nora
6. Jeff
7. Jenny

jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 23 January 2006 16:03 (nineteen years ago)

Jesse had a chance for second, but he blew it in the final frame.

jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 23 January 2006 16:03 (nineteen years ago)

Otto, Nick and I were to the left of the stage right in front of the stair railing. Would you have recognized us from pix posted here? I have no idea what you look like.

no, i have no idea what either of you look like. i was in front for the first dude (guy playing what looked to be a mustang with a hand saw) for about 10 minutes then my beer ran out and my ears started to hurt. i was on the stairs a few feet in front of the sound booth for the first song of the second band. left during their first song, played pinball until their last song. was in the middle of the crowd for the first half of califone then sat in one of the two seats at the far end of the bar and drank gin for the second half of their set. they kept making me gin and tonics in pint glasses. it got me a lot drunker than i had anticipated getting. not good times.

i wish i'd gone bowling instead. i was supposed to go for my birthday two weeks ago but a friend had to work and my girlfriend was sick so it fell through. i've only been big ball bowling a handful of times and i'm totally horrible but i can all but guarantee that no one has as much fun bowling as i do. plus with my spaghetti arms i get really tired really quickly. that never happened with the candlepin bowling i was raised on.

otto midnight (otto midnight), Monday, 23 January 2006 16:11 (nineteen years ago)

You will hear from my lawyer.

-- Sarah Kittensmew McLusky

Is that me???

I know I only pop in here these days to talk about beer and worker justice, but in case anybody is in Chinatown this Friday at around three...

Dear Friends,

Please join us in prayer and solidarity as we call for an end to modern day slavery and stand in support of trafficking survivor, Gildardo Ferreira.

When: Friday, January 27, 2006. An interfaith prayer vigil will begin at 3 p.m., followed by a press conference. These activities coincide with Chinese New Year activities.

Where: 2227 S. Wentworth Avenue, (in front of Ho Ho Employment Agency)

Background:
New Slavery: Underground Human Trafficking in Chinatown

What: Gildardo Ferreira, a victim of human trafficking and slavery, along with an interfaith delegation of local religious leaders will demand an end to the illegal and immoral activities of Ho Ho Employment Agency in Chicago. An interfaith prayer vigil will be held and a clergy delegation will try to meet with the owner of the agency.

Why: Gildardo Ferreira responded to an ad for a restaurant job through the Ho Ho Employment Agency. The owner of the agency promised Mr. Ferreira $2,100 a month plus room and board for washing food trays in a Chinese buffet-style restaurant in Michigan. That same afternoon, he boarded a bus to Muskegon, Michigan. Upon arriving, Mr. Ferreira was shocked by the condition of the housing supplied by the agency. The two-flat apartment housed nearly 30 workers. “The house was so dirty. We all had to share one small bathroom that was disgusting. I can’t put into words how horrible the conditions were,” stated Mr. Ferreira. The wretched conditions continued at the restaurant. Workers were forced to work 14 hour days, with set times for bathroom breaks. Mr. Ferreira was obligated to wash pots using intolerably hot water. “I had to buy my own gloves at a gas station because my hands and arms were red and swollen from the burns,” Mr. Ferreira explained. “But like everyone else there, I did not complain because I needed the job and I was far away from home.”

After working seventy hours over five days, Mr. Ferreira was abruptly wakened at the house. He was informed he had been fired and was thrown out of the house. When he demanded his wage payment from the supervisor, he was attacked.

According to JO, Director of CICWI, WRC Ho Ho Employment Agency continues to run similar human trafficking violations out of their Chinatown offices. He recently led a delegation to Michigan to investigate and found that worker advocates see these conditions on a regular basis.

CICWI educates and mobilizes the religious community on issues and campaigns that improve wages, benefits and working conditions for Chicago area workers.

Names of people and organizations have been initialized for your safety.

Nutsy the Squirrel (pullapartgirl), Monday, 23 January 2006 16:20 (nineteen years ago)

That's horrible. There was some shit like that going on in a restaurant in my hometown, too. People from town found out about it, everyone boycotted the place, and it went out of business within like 3 months. A local church got up the money to get the workers bus tickets home.

Df'nM (OutDatWay), Monday, 23 January 2006 16:31 (nineteen years ago)

I should have said... they got the workers tickets home first, and the combination of boycott and the fact that no one in their right mind would work there afterwards put the place under.

Df'nM (OutDatWay), Monday, 23 January 2006 16:32 (nineteen years ago)

Oh, duh, Otto. You were at the bottle Saturday night. I was there with Nick Friday night. Mystery solved.

Sarah Kittensmew McLusky (coco), Monday, 23 January 2006 16:33 (nineteen years ago)

I was not next to last, I bet Nora by a few points.

Jeff. (Jeff), Monday, 23 January 2006 16:36 (nineteen years ago)

beat

Jeff. (Jeff), Monday, 23 January 2006 16:37 (nineteen years ago)

Holy shit, Jenny, Muskegon is practically home for me. I wonder if my parents' church would be interested in that information....

Laurel (Laurel), Monday, 23 January 2006 16:41 (nineteen years ago)

Maybe I should take lessons.

Jeff. (Jeff), Monday, 23 January 2006 17:08 (nineteen years ago)

I took bowling in college for PE credit. For a while I could score nearly 200 pretty consistently. By the end of the class my fingers would always hurt though. Stupid arthritis.

Df'nM (OutDatWay), Monday, 23 January 2006 17:24 (nineteen years ago)

I took bowling in college, too. But I never broke 120.

jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 23 January 2006 17:25 (nineteen years ago)

Sure, Laurel. Let your mom know - at the least she can tell people not to eat at that Chinese restaurant.

John, my friend Emily said that you look like Oscar Wilde.

jennyfur, Monday, 23 January 2006 17:27 (nineteen years ago)

OMG Oscar Wilde was one of the dudes listed in that Internet thing where you submit your photo and it tells you what famous people you look like.

jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 23 January 2006 17:32 (nineteen years ago)

Unfortunately, Jenny, that article doesn't give the restaurant name or any IDing detail. Any way you can find out?

Laurel (Laurel), Monday, 23 January 2006 17:34 (nineteen years ago)

A friend of mine just called and has free tickets to an advance screening tonight of the iMax movie "Roaming Mars." I am so stoked I can barely contain myself.

Df'nM (OutDatWay), Monday, 23 January 2006 19:40 (nineteen years ago)

Aye, Laurel. I'll find out tonight and post here.

I LOVE Imax movies!

Nutsy the Squirrel (pullapartgirl), Monday, 23 January 2006 19:48 (nineteen years ago)

There's an iMax in Madison now. I haven't been yet, but the review in the paper was pretty amusing. It was basically "Yeah, I guess it's big, but it's not THAT big. Could be bigger."

Jordan (Jordan), Monday, 23 January 2006 20:07 (nineteen years ago)

I'm dying.

Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Monday, 23 January 2006 20:10 (nineteen years ago)

What's wrong? I have the flu.

The Milkmaid (of human kindness) (The Milkmaid), Monday, 23 January 2006 20:15 (nineteen years ago)

I ate a really bad burrito. Really bad.

Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Monday, 23 January 2006 20:17 (nineteen years ago)

Eeek. That's terrible. Are you drinking plenty of water, I hope?

The Milkmaid (of human kindness) (The Milkmaid), Monday, 23 January 2006 20:18 (nineteen years ago)

Yeah, but that doesn't seem to help me stop feeling bloated and crampy and full of acid and all-around miserable.

Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Monday, 23 January 2006 20:20 (nineteen years ago)

What was it, cabeza?

Df'nM (OutDatWay), Monday, 23 January 2006 20:25 (nineteen years ago)

bloated and crampy and full of acid and all-around miserable
It sounds like you've finally got your period, Kenan. Congratulations!

The Milkmaid (of human kindness) (The Milkmaid), Monday, 23 January 2006 20:27 (nineteen years ago)

(not to belittle your predicament, of course...)

The Milkmaid (of human kindness) (The Milkmaid), Monday, 23 January 2006 20:27 (nineteen years ago)

I kind of have this fear of Imax theaters ever since my brother made us go see "The Dream is Alive" 3 TIMES at the Air & Space while on our childhood trip to DC. Then I saw this thing about Egypt with Omar Sharif and it made me kind of woozy.

jocelyn (Jocelyn), Monday, 23 January 2006 20:37 (nineteen years ago)

I haven't been to one for years. This ought to be interesting. It's on Navy Pier too of course... should be somewhat surreal.

Df'nM (OutDatWay), Monday, 23 January 2006 20:44 (nineteen years ago)

I e-mailed my oddball ex-homeless fringe-dweller friend Chris to wish him a happy birthday and said I would make him a couple of mixtapes but wanted some direction from him as to what I should put on.

His reply was sort of perfect:

i want

anything that fits into a category of its own;

anything that expolodes my head (or at least makes me scratch it);

no guitars unless they're sampled, or wrongly tuned, or noisified,

and a variety of crazy
make-me-lose-control on the dancefloor type shit
(oomph oomph oomph ch ch ooomph ooomph ooomph)

and illegal shit (i lost that copy of the illegal art comp you gave me)

and some of that i-can't-believe-they-were-doing-THIS-way-back-in-1973 shit

and, of course, some of that chicago shit.

oh, and classics from the old mix tapes you made me -- definitely including the cibo matto/yoko ono track and the qube chix.

does that help? actually this is fun. i could get more specific, but i have to go do some celebrating right now.

jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 23 January 2006 21:55 (nineteen years ago)

I think that's all I ever want on a mixtape from now on forever.


cut n paste.

gbx (skowly), Monday, 23 January 2006 22:02 (nineteen years ago)

I like the guidelines. I think it'll make assembling the mixtape more fun, which is what I was aiming for.

jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 23 January 2006 22:07 (nineteen years ago)

Nice.

Jordan (Jordan), Monday, 23 January 2006 22:08 (nineteen years ago)

The Mars movie was really good, but really short. It took longer to ride the train and bus down there than the length of the movie. What do you expect for free, I guess?

Afterward we tossed back a few at the Map Room. Free pool is sweet.

Df'nM (OutDatWay), Tuesday, 24 January 2006 05:41 (nineteen years ago)

I am pretty sure I'm coming down with something. Ugh.

A few things I hate:
* getting sick
* people who don't have voicemails so you have to just keep trying to reach them to check something off your to do list
* people who act like they're doing you a favor by taking down information about money your company has available for their company
* when someone answers the phone and asks who is calling before they direct your call, but then you discover that you are speaking to the person you asked for - they're just checking to make sure they want to talk to you first ("May I ask who's calling?" "I'm...with..." "Oh! Ok. Well, in that case, I'm (the person you called for..) How can I help you?")

Things I love:
* the sun streaming into the front lobby where I work, which it is doing right now
* mini packs of oatmeal that I can make and eat at my desk every morning
* my bed

Sarah Kittensmew McLusky (coco), Tuesday, 24 January 2006 14:55 (nineteen years ago)

Uh oh! Not sick! I'm finally starting to feel better. Today is the first day in about a week that I have woken up and NOT felt like crap. No feverishness, no headache, no achiness. Get lotsa rest, Sarah!

The Milkmaid (of human kindness) (The Milkmaid), Tuesday, 24 January 2006 15:05 (nineteen years ago)

I'm being especially impatient with people on the phone today. I keep calling companies to tell them we have money ready for them at our title company. As I mentioned before, everyone I talk to acts annoyed and says something about being really busy and couldn't I just fax all this information and not waste their precious time? GRRR! CURSES! And then after I fax, they call back with questions. If they would just talk to me on the phone in the first place...

Sarah Crotchety McLusky (coco), Tuesday, 24 January 2006 15:44 (nineteen years ago)

That's my job, in a nutshell. I have to call people who don't want to talk to me, then I have to make them talk to me.

The Milkmaid (of human kindness) (The Milkmaid), Tuesday, 24 January 2006 15:46 (nineteen years ago)

Don't worry, Sarah. Someday, they will all die. Not at the same time, of course, and not in a manner of your choosing...but eventually.

Laurel (Laurel), Tuesday, 24 January 2006 15:46 (nineteen years ago)

Also, I don't feel sick except that my throat keeps threatening to swell shut. Grrrrr.

Laurel (Laurel), Tuesday, 24 January 2006 15:47 (nineteen years ago)

I had that problem too! I felt like my throat was closing up, then it got better. Have you checked your uvula?

That's right.

UVULA.

The Milkmaid (of human kindness) (The Milkmaid), Tuesday, 24 January 2006 15:49 (nineteen years ago)

I don't think I can see it, under normal conditions. Anyone got a flashlight?

Amanda, how in the hell did I catch your sore throat?? I didn't make out with YOU last weekend.

Laurel (Laurel), Tuesday, 24 January 2006 15:54 (nineteen years ago)

Hi Chicago, I have a favor to ask, sorry for butting in to your thread with pestering. A friend/co-worker of mine is travelling there soon (like in a week or 2, not sure of dates) and will be staying for 3 days in between work assignments. I've bigged up the city lots including recommendations for some things/places I liked years ago, but aside from referring her to the Reader, I'm not sure where else to recommend--she mentioned wanting to go to blues or comedy clubs, neither of which I know much about. Do you guys have recommendations? I think she's still looking for a hotel also.

Thanks!

sgs (sgs), Tuesday, 24 January 2006 15:54 (nineteen years ago)

Laurel - If your uvula were choking you, you would know it and be able to see it. Also, if we had made out, you would know it. But you can borrow my flashlight anytime, it's in the front bathroom under the sink. We used to keep it in the drawer with the cooking utensils but then I reached for it one time in the dark and realized that I couldn't see the knives, etc. That was a bad idea.

I don't know much about comedy, but I have a work friend who performs at the L!ncoln Lodge regularly. I guess there's comedy there?

The Milkmaid (of human kindness) (The Milkmaid), Tuesday, 24 January 2006 16:08 (nineteen years ago)

Would she like Second City?

I love the Green Mill. Would she like that too?

Sarah Kittensmew McLusky (coco), Tuesday, 24 January 2006 16:12 (nineteen years ago)

Also, if we had made out, you would know it.

Hee!

Laurel (Laurel), Tuesday, 24 January 2006 16:19 (nineteen years ago)

I have a free ticket to go see a band called Sa11y at the D0uble D00r tomorrow. Has anyone seen them? What are they like?

Df'nM (OutDatWay), Tuesday, 24 January 2006 19:19 (nineteen years ago)

Never heard of them, Dan. Btw, how was your show last week?

jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 24 January 2006 19:20 (nineteen years ago)

Speaking of shows: my "band" is playing a show at Ronny's on Feb. 18th. It's actually a b-day party (for my friend B, who is in the band). Come one, come all.


We were called the Sharks up until yesterday. Now, I think we are called Hannibal and the Elephants.

gbx (skowly), Tuesday, 24 January 2006 19:23 (nineteen years ago)

Well, the weather was for shit so I think that kept some people away. But we played really well, which was due to our shitty shitty rehearsal the night before. I liked the venue although it could stand some improvments if they want to keep having shows there. The seating thing was weird, but whatever. It was a good time. Catsp1ash were kind of meh, Zer0stars were pretty good. We're playing with them (the latter) again in a month.

xpost oh man, post a reminder about that. And I liked $H4RK$ as a name when you mentioned it before. Especially spelled with a 4.

Df'nM (OutDatWay), Tuesday, 24 January 2006 19:25 (nineteen years ago)

Also back a few posts to Sarah/sgs: in lieu of "comedy clubs," I've often taken out-of-towners to see the Neo-Futurists' Too Much Light Makes the Baby Go Blind ... pretty fun, and it seems like real regional theatre and not just a tourist-y hot-spot.

I don't know nothin' about blues clubs, though. Have any CHILXors actually been to a blues club in Chicago?

jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 24 January 2006 19:25 (nineteen years ago)

Good news: I'm not going to die. It was tough and go there for a while.

Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Tuesday, 24 January 2006 19:25 (nineteen years ago)

From the burrito still?

jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 24 January 2006 19:27 (nineteen years ago)

Where'd you get the burrito from, so I can avoid eating there?

Df'nM (OutDatWay), Tuesday, 24 January 2006 19:27 (nineteen years ago)

Now I'm picturing, like, bootleg burritos.

xpost

Jordan (Jordan), Tuesday, 24 January 2006 19:28 (nineteen years ago)

Oh, BAND PEOPLE: ....how do I shot PA system? We don't have one (we're not a real band), and the band that's playing with us doesn't either.

gbx (skowly), Tuesday, 24 January 2006 19:29 (nineteen years ago)

(the band that is playing with us is (ick) an emo band that my coworker is in....but we're using his bass)

gbx (skowly), Tuesday, 24 January 2006 19:30 (nineteen years ago)

What is Ronny's? Do they have their own PA? If not, you'll just have to use amps. But I don't know what your set-up is.

jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 24 January 2006 19:31 (nineteen years ago)

Ronny's is the dive bar up the block from my apt.

I don't think they have their own PA.

gbx (skowly), Tuesday, 24 January 2006 19:33 (nineteen years ago)

Setup:

Two mics, one bass, two electric guitars, one (really shitty) keyboard, drum kit.

Uh, three amps? And I think my roommate is buying another one today.

gbx (skowly), Tuesday, 24 January 2006 19:34 (nineteen years ago)

Thanks everyone for your suggestions...feel free to email me if any others occur! I told her about the Green Mill and will pass along Second City and TMLMTBGB too :)

sgs (sgs), Tuesday, 24 January 2006 19:36 (nineteen years ago)

(xpost) Hmmmm, could be tough. Do any of the amps have multiple inputs?

jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 24 January 2006 19:36 (nineteen years ago)

You can rent things like PAs. Dunno how much a place would charge, but it sounds like you wouldn't need much, just for vocals and maybe keys? I'm no good at soundman-ing.

Df'nM (OutDatWay), Tuesday, 24 January 2006 19:41 (nineteen years ago)

I think two of the amps have dual inputs.

gbx (skowly), Tuesday, 24 January 2006 19:54 (nineteen years ago)

Singing through a guitar amp is punk rock.

Df'nM (OutDatWay), Tuesday, 24 January 2006 19:54 (nineteen years ago)

That's the way we've been doing it. Through the bass amp, actualy.

gbx (skowly), Tuesday, 24 January 2006 19:56 (nineteen years ago)

I doubt it would be financially worthwhile to rent a PA if your band is just playing a show at a local bar. The bar should be in charge of that stuff. Then again, I have never tried renting one so I don't know how much it would set you back.

I. HAVE. THE. CHILLS.
IT. SUCKS.

Sarah Kittensmew McLusky (coco), Tuesday, 24 January 2006 20:29 (nineteen years ago)

Tomorrow you stay home sick, Sarah!!
This flu is a nasty one.

The Milkmaid (of human kindness) (The Milkmaid), Tuesday, 24 January 2006 20:34 (nineteen years ago)

Maybe you should all play REALLY QUIETLY so the singer can be heard without using a mic. Either that or just have him yell into an unplugged mic to look cool.

I hate the chills, Sarah. :( That's where I draw the "sick day" line.

Jordan (Jordan), Tuesday, 24 January 2006 20:36 (nineteen years ago)

Where'd you get the burrito from, so I can avoid eating there?

Taqueria at the corner of Irving Park and Sheridan. It's usually so good! But yeah, I won't be going there for a while.

Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Tuesday, 24 January 2006 20:37 (nineteen years ago)

Food poisoning?

Jordan (Jordan), Tuesday, 24 January 2006 20:38 (nineteen years ago)

Montezuma's Revenge. I guess you could look on the bright side, and say that I did eat authentic Mexican food.

Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Tuesday, 24 January 2006 20:39 (nineteen years ago)

:(

On the way back from Kansas City, I specifically did not stop for food or bathrooms in this town.

Jordan (Jordan), Tuesday, 24 January 2006 20:43 (nineteen years ago)

I guess you could look on the bright side, and say that I did eat authentic Mexican food.

Mmmm with authentic Mexican bacteria!

Df'nM (OutDatWay), Tuesday, 24 January 2006 20:44 (nineteen years ago)

I am not a fan of burritos.

Apparently, I signed for the delivery of a sink (at work)on Thursday and it has disappeared. My coworker said, "WEll, they told me it looks like a Sarah Kerhn signed for it...?" Me: "Yeah, um, that's what my name looks like when I sign it..." Bascially, I only ever get as far as the JOHN and then it turns into little humps, but even that first part is almost always illegible. I blame my dad.

The good news is that Nick is on his way (from evanston) to get me.

Sarah Kittensmew McLusky (coco), Tuesday, 24 January 2006 20:48 (nineteen years ago)

Way major x-post here, but in answer to the Blues club question - I've been to Kingston Mines (Halsted, a bit south of Diversey)a couple of times and really enjoyed each one. I'm not exactly a blues fanatic or really knowledgeable about the stuff, but the guys I saw were really awesome and seemed to have been doing this for decades. Not terribly expensive either.

jonviachicago, Tuesday, 24 January 2006 20:53 (nineteen years ago)

annual review time, wish me luck!

The Milkmaid (of human kindness) (The Milkmaid), Wednesday, 25 January 2006 15:28 (nineteen years ago)

"Spends suspicious amount of time typing."

Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Wednesday, 25 January 2006 15:29 (nineteen years ago)

and how.

here's a question: song that stuck in my head this morning: "shake you down" by ??
especially that part that goes "eenie meenie miney mo, come on girl, lets' ____ ____ _____"

what's that last part? how do i know that song?

The Milkmaid (of human kindness) (The Milkmaid), Wednesday, 25 January 2006 15:29 (nineteen years ago)

It's "Shake You Down" by Gregory Abbott.

I have no idea what that lyric is.

Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Wednesday, 25 January 2006 15:35 (nineteen years ago)

You know that song because it was all over 80's radio!

Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Wednesday, 25 January 2006 15:35 (nineteen years ago)

oh-weh oh-weh.

Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Wednesday, 25 January 2006 15:38 (nineteen years ago)

that part popped into my head this morning too! ha.

The Milkmaid (of human kindness) (The Milkmaid), Wednesday, 25 January 2006 15:39 (nineteen years ago)

i'm bored.

The Milkmaid (of human kindness) (The Milkmaid), Wednesday, 25 January 2006 15:39 (nineteen years ago)

Alert the media.

Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Wednesday, 25 January 2006 15:40 (nineteen years ago)

Goede morgen, mijn vrienden.

Eazy (Eazy), Wednesday, 25 January 2006 15:50 (nineteen years ago)

Boker tov.

I'm tiiirrred and just got to work, but I'll be working late tonight so s'okay.

I found out my band will be playing on the radio at 7 am this Friday, the day of our big show, which is cool and all but oh my god will that be a long day.

Jordan (Jordan), Wednesday, 25 January 2006 15:55 (nineteen years ago)

buenos dias!
i feel spazzy and not in the mood to be at work. i would much rather be studying. i'm in the mood to listen to wilson pickett.

The Milkmaid (of human kindness) (The Milkmaid), Wednesday, 25 January 2006 16:03 (nineteen years ago)

Goede morgen, mijn vrienden

What is this, Dutch?

I'm suddenly flush with all of these writing ideas. I have two potential essays in my head, and they're the sort of things I used to write way more often and have wanted to get back into, esp. now that I have more of a "readership." Essentially: pieces that ruminate on intellectual/aesthetic issues from a personal/autobiographical perspective.

I'm excited because I feel like I haven't been inspired about this stuff for a couple of years now. But now all I want to do is work on that when I wake up in the morning instead of coming to work, which then ends up draining me so much that I can't focus afterwards. Ideally, I would have just stayed on the train, with the sunlight streaming in, and kept filling notebook pages.

jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 25 January 2006 16:14 (nineteen years ago)

That sounds great.

The main reason that I was late this morning was that I was figuring out basslines for the bass player that will be subbing with us on the radio show, and I always lose track of time doing that. Mostly because after I figure it out, I can't help jamming on it for 10 min using cheesy keyboard presets.

Jordan (Jordan), Wednesday, 25 January 2006 16:17 (nineteen years ago)

That's really great news, John. And, ja, Dutch. I like Dutch sometimes seems like weird phoenetic English - saw a sign once over there for the Red Cross, and the slogan was Geef Bloed. Ja, Ij Kann Spijk Fajk Doetche.

Eazy (Eazy), Wednesday, 25 January 2006 16:21 (nineteen years ago)

NEWSFLASH FOR NUTSY THE SQUIRREL: I finished Female Chauvinist Pigs, so when you have "free time" again remind me of this and we can discuss it here and bore the others.
What does Boker Tov mean? I've met people called "Tov" so I'm guessing it's Hebrew.

jocelyn (Jocelyn), Wednesday, 25 January 2006 16:55 (nineteen years ago)

Yeah, it just means "good morning" in Hebrew. That and the word for orange juice are pretty much all I know (I don't know it's spelled, but it's pronounced "meetz tahpuzeem").

Jordan (Jordan), Wednesday, 25 January 2006 17:01 (nineteen years ago)

I'll be happy to talk about FCP more...

jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 25 January 2006 17:03 (nineteen years ago)

Women hate me because I didn't like FCP. I found it under-researched, badly argued, judgemental, and a little hysterical.

Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Wednesday, 25 January 2006 17:14 (nineteen years ago)

What am I talking about. Women hate me anyway.

Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Wednesday, 25 January 2006 17:15 (nineteen years ago)

Alert the media.

The Milkmaid (of human kindness) (The Milkmaid), Wednesday, 25 January 2006 17:15 (nineteen years ago)

(hehe)

The Milkmaid (of human kindness) (The Milkmaid), Wednesday, 25 January 2006 17:15 (nineteen years ago)

I just spent the last half an hour reading lj posts about sexism in comics.

Jordan (Jordan), Wednesday, 25 January 2006 17:16 (nineteen years ago)

You've been waiting to zing me all morning, haven't you?

Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Wednesday, 25 January 2006 17:16 (nineteen years ago)

I have.

The Milkmaid (of human kindness) (The Milkmaid), Wednesday, 25 January 2006 17:17 (nineteen years ago)

I just spent the last half an hour reading lj posts about sexism in comics.

There's no sexism in comics! That's crazy talk! All the violence against women is repaid with violence exacted by women, and that makes it ok. Right? Right?

Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Wednesday, 25 January 2006 17:18 (nineteen years ago)

As long as it's Sin City.

Jordan (Jordan), Wednesday, 25 January 2006 17:22 (nineteen years ago)

Aspartame is horrible stuff. This light yogurt is horrible stuff. What I can't get my head around is why they put high fructose corn syrup *and* aspartame in it. Maybe because if they put all aspartame in it, they would have to call it "Coke Zero."

Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Wednesday, 25 January 2006 17:23 (nineteen years ago)

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Jordan (Jordan), Wednesday, 25 January 2006 17:24 (nineteen years ago)

Women hate me because I didn't like PCP.

Blondie and Dagwood had a good thing going.

Eazy (Eazy), Wednesday, 25 January 2006 17:24 (nineteen years ago)

http://www.holisticmed.com/aspartame/damage.txt

Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Wednesday, 25 January 2006 17:25 (nineteen years ago)

Women hate me because I didn't like ICP.

Jordan (Jordan), Wednesday, 25 January 2006 17:26 (nineteen years ago)

Women hate me because I didn't like RHCP.

jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 25 January 2006 17:28 (nineteen years ago)

Your search - kiedis sock - did not match any documents.

jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 25 January 2006 17:28 (nineteen years ago)

Really, I don't care about the so-called damaging effects of aspartame, and wouldn't trust a source called "holisticmed.com" with my pocket change. Alls I know is, it tastes like licking tin foil.

Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Wednesday, 25 January 2006 17:28 (nineteen years ago)

http://www.flamingchili.com/graphics/socks_tm.jpg

Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Wednesday, 25 January 2006 17:29 (nineteen years ago)

haha

jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 25 January 2006 17:31 (nineteen years ago)

It does taste like foil. My mom used to make me chew Aspergum when I had a sore throat. It was gross.

Women hate all of you because you didn't like CCCP.

The Milkmaid (of human kindness) (The Milkmaid), Wednesday, 25 January 2006 17:33 (nineteen years ago)

I must be over the flu. I feel like someone gave me uppers in my cereal.

The Milkmaid (of human kindness) (The Milkmaid), Wednesday, 25 January 2006 17:35 (nineteen years ago)

Women hate me because I didn't like ECP.

Jordan (Jordan), Wednesday, 25 January 2006 17:37 (nineteen years ago)

I thought it was just EC. And I can't imagine why you wouldn't like it. It's been my bestest friend a couple of times.

Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Wednesday, 25 January 2006 17:38 (nineteen years ago)

I was very thankful for it once, in high school.

Jordan (Jordan), Wednesday, 25 January 2006 17:40 (nineteen years ago)

Woman hate me because I didn't like the rhythm method.

Df'nM (OutDatWay), Wednesday, 25 January 2006 17:57 (nineteen years ago)

Women hate me, which is why I never actually have to worry about contraception in the first place.

jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 25 January 2006 17:59 (nineteen years ago)

You didn't like the rhythm method? But it has that great dance-pop classic "Miss You Much" on it!

No, wait. That's Rhythm Nation.

Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Wednesday, 25 January 2006 18:12 (nineteen years ago)

The "escapade" is actually a journey through Janet's fallopian tubes.

jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 25 January 2006 18:15 (nineteen years ago)

Nasty!

Eazy (Eazy), Wednesday, 25 January 2006 18:16 (nineteen years ago)

(Oh, I was thinking Control, not Rhythm Nation)

Eazy (Eazy), Wednesday, 25 January 2006 18:17 (nineteen years ago)

There's a Latoya album where she talks about her "walls" on the first track.

Jordan (Jordan), Wednesday, 25 January 2006 18:17 (nineteen years ago)

ihttp://image.allmusic.com/00/amg/cov200/drd000/d022/d02214882v1.jpg

That would be "Sexual Feeling", for those keeping score.

"Bad Girl" is actually a pretty good tune, though.

Jordan (Jordan), Wednesday, 25 January 2006 18:20 (nineteen years ago)

What's the one where on the cover she's sitting on the toilet? That cover rules.

What did the FFs decide on for their album title, anyway? Straight Noggin?

Raw Yang?

The Milkmaid (of human kindness) (The Milkmaid), Wednesday, 25 January 2006 18:21 (nineteen years ago)

Aspertame is nasty stuff that gives me headaches and stomach cramps.
I like "Raw Yang" because I try to figure out the anagram, and then realize that there isn't one.
I didn't find FCP hysterical at all. And I liked that she steered clear of the "women who like to wear make-up, nice clothes, etc. are just tools of the male regime" approach that some feminist texts harp on. But that discussion's been had 8,000 on ILX ad I don't want to hear it anymore so I'm glad she stuck to the Raunch culture thing. Although I'm sad she didn't talk about Bratz dolls.

jocelyn (Jocelyn), Wednesday, 25 January 2006 18:26 (nineteen years ago)

ANY GWAR

Df'nM (OutDatWay), Wednesday, 25 January 2006 18:28 (nineteen years ago)

IS GOOD GWAR

jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 25 January 2006 18:29 (nineteen years ago)

heh

Jordan (Jordan), Wednesday, 25 January 2006 18:32 (nineteen years ago)

I used to quite enjoy GWAR. You know, back in "the day."

Anyway, a co-worker & I just had a sparkling conversation about language & the difference between idioms, aphorisms, euphemisms & the like. This then triggered some talk of words not commonly used (I mentioned "plucky") & what words are "safe" to incorporate into one's daily speak vs. words that scream, "i'm smart & REALLY well read!" In other words, words that are so far off the radar that few actually know what they mean.

R. Kelsey (kelstarry), Wednesday, 25 January 2006 19:00 (nineteen years ago)

I have a general question about the new 2005 tax rule regarding the contribution of vehicles to charities. A hypothetical question, actually. I'm writing a story about it, and I don't want to get my facts wrong, but I have no idea who to ask. Anyone know a friendly accountant?

Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Wednesday, 25 January 2006 19:18 (nineteen years ago)

Come on, you guys! You talk about bands and boobs all day long, but when someone really needs tax tips, where are you? Nowhere to be found!

Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Wednesday, 25 January 2006 19:22 (nineteen years ago)

In other words, words that are so far off the radar that few actually know what they mean.

like when someone says "if there isn't an agreement i'm sure someone will step up to fill the lacuna." because, y'know, filling the vacuum would be too base.

things like that make me wish, silently and frequently, that it was socially acceptable to punch people in the mouth.

otto midnight (otto midnight), Wednesday, 25 January 2006 19:22 (nineteen years ago)

You could call up the American Lung Association. I always hear their radio ads looking for cars to be donated for a tax break.

xpost

Df'nM (OutDatWay), Wednesday, 25 January 2006 19:23 (nineteen years ago)

Nevermind. Found an accountant. Thanks a lot, losers.

Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Wednesday, 25 January 2006 19:25 (nineteen years ago)

I take that back. You're all fine, passably attractive, morally upstanding individuals.

Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Wednesday, 25 January 2006 19:26 (nineteen years ago)

Watch who yer callin' "passable".

Laurel (Laurel), Wednesday, 25 January 2006 19:27 (nineteen years ago)

You're ... writing a story?

jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 25 January 2006 19:28 (nineteen years ago)

A love story.

The Milkmaid (of human kindness) (The Milkmaid), Wednesday, 25 January 2006 19:28 (nineteen years ago)

what words are "safe" to incorporate into one's daily speak


My boss is the worst about this. He went to Princeton, and majored in English. To him, this means that "big words" are the province of the educated. His definition of "big/unsafe" words is hilariously broad, however.

If I, say, drop the word "superfluous" in the middle of conversation/meeting, his raises his eyebrows like "whoah there guy, not in front of these jerks." If M__, another boss guy, who attended midwestern state school, uses the word "superfluous," R__, Princeton boss, will actually high-five the other guy, and say obnoxious shit like "'Superfluous?' Nice one, Mike!", as if Mike just rode a bike without training wheels for the first time. Worse? He's totally EARNEST about all of this. He's not being sarcastic or mean: he's genuinely impressed that someone that did not go to a "good school" can use a "big word" as hilariously common as "superfluous."

Whadda jerk.

gbx (skowly), Wednesday, 25 January 2006 19:28 (nineteen years ago)

That's insane.

For some reason I have the occasion to use "esoteric" at work a lot (like in reference to bits of code that confuse the hell out of me) and I've had multiple say, "hey, good word!" WTF.

Jordan (Jordan), Wednesday, 25 January 2006 19:31 (nineteen years ago)

like when someone says "if there isn't an agreement i'm sure someone will step up to fill the lacuna."

I just learned a new word.

Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Wednesday, 25 January 2006 19:41 (nineteen years ago)

But what about words that aren't necessarily "big" words, merely uncommon? Like my example of "plucky" above? What are more examples of those kinds of words?

R. Kelsey (kelstarry), Wednesday, 25 January 2006 20:00 (nineteen years ago)

logy

Jordan (Jordan), Wednesday, 25 January 2006 20:03 (nineteen years ago)

I use logy all the time. Love that one.

Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Wednesday, 25 January 2006 20:04 (nineteen years ago)

I think a lot of regional or semi-archaic/dated things end up in that list, although I'm having a hell of a time coming up with any on the spot.

Laurel (Laurel), Wednesday, 25 January 2006 20:04 (nineteen years ago)

I think sort of depends on who's talking and to whom. I don't think any of us would be surprised if another of us used the word "plucky" but we would also use the word "antithesis" without thinking twice or finding it remarkable.

If you're talking about anachronistic words, the list could be endless. "Fetching", maybe?

The Milkmaid (of human kindness) (The Milkmaid), Wednesday, 25 January 2006 20:05 (nineteen years ago)

"moxie"?

jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 25 January 2006 20:05 (nineteen years ago)

"umbrage"

gbx (skowly), Wednesday, 25 January 2006 20:06 (nineteen years ago)

I use umbrage. (Should I be ashamed? Take umbrage?)

The Milkmaid (of human kindness) (The Milkmaid), Wednesday, 25 January 2006 20:06 (nineteen years ago)

No one else uses "umbrage," though.

gbx (skowly), Wednesday, 25 January 2006 20:07 (nineteen years ago)

Every word you guys are mentioning is one I have used recently, if only in party conversation. I think my vocabulary is quite charming.

Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Wednesday, 25 January 2006 20:08 (nineteen years ago)

behoove, beholden, becomes/becoming (as in, "her self-pity is distinctly unbecoming"), druthers -- sorry, distracted by colleague, lost train of thought. Hazard of posting at work.

Laurel (Laurel), Wednesday, 25 January 2006 20:08 (nineteen years ago)

I said druthers yesterday.

The Milkmaid (of human kindness) (The Milkmaid), Wednesday, 25 January 2006 20:09 (nineteen years ago)

I guess I'm just going to have to branch the fuck out.

R. Kelsey (kelstarry), Wednesday, 25 January 2006 20:09 (nineteen years ago)

I am an old person.

The Milkmaid (of human kindness) (The Milkmaid), Wednesday, 25 January 2006 20:09 (nineteen years ago)

TS: "I'm feeling kind of blah." vs. "I'm logy."

The choice is clear.

Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Wednesday, 25 January 2006 20:10 (nineteen years ago)

"Logy" reminds me too much of my high-school calculus teacher Kathy M0gy.

jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 25 January 2006 20:11 (nineteen years ago)

Moxie makes me think of the soda.

Amanda, if you're so old, perhaps you ought to lie down on the davenport & rest your wearly legs.

R. Kelsey (kelstarry), Wednesday, 25 January 2006 20:11 (nineteen years ago)

And watch your stories.

Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Wednesday, 25 January 2006 20:12 (nineteen years ago)

Amanda, I say druthers all the time, too, and beholden, but my mother's family is from TN and I'm pretty sure that's where it's coming from.

Laurel (Laurel), Wednesday, 25 January 2006 20:14 (nineteen years ago)

My google searches for work this afternoon are taking me to some of the gayest places on the internet that do not actually show nudity. For instance, Seascouts, featuring a smooth-skinned teenage boys dressed as a tittilating combination of sailors and Boy Scouts. Or something called the Rawhide Boys Ranch. I'm all a-twitter.

Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Wednesday, 25 January 2006 20:15 (nineteen years ago)

I use the phrase "set a precedent" a lot at work. I've also used the word "Moxie" when I really want to use "big balls".

jocelyn (Jocelyn), Wednesday, 25 January 2006 20:16 (nineteen years ago)

I only use "balls" in the negative sense. I would never say, "It takes a lot of balls to be President." I would say, "Going to war under false pretenses takes some kinda balls."

Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Wednesday, 25 January 2006 20:17 (nineteen years ago)

kenan, are you in a boy phase?

R. Kelsey (kelstarry), Wednesday, 25 January 2006 20:18 (nineteen years ago)

Yes. Once a year, usually in late January, I go molestin'. Just gotta get it out of my system.

Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Wednesday, 25 January 2006 20:43 (nineteen years ago)

aw geez. so not what i meant . . .

i am reading lolita, however.

R. Kelsey (kelstarry), Wednesday, 25 January 2006 20:54 (nineteen years ago)

I am just winking happy thoughts into a little tiddle cup.

Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Wednesday, 25 January 2006 21:03 (nineteen years ago)

Hvae you read it before, Kelsey? It's truly one of my favorite books.

Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Wednesday, 25 January 2006 21:06 (nineteen years ago)

http://www.rawhide.org/photos/Jerseys.jpg?1137784201

Bart and Cherry Starr Find Many Ways to Impact Youth at Rawhide

Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Wednesday, 25 January 2006 21:32 (nineteen years ago)

Oh dear.

The Milkmaid (of human kindness) (The Milkmaid), Wednesday, 25 January 2006 21:34 (nineteen years ago)

I'm telling you.

http://www.rawhide.org/index.shtml

Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Wednesday, 25 January 2006 21:36 (nineteen years ago)

Bart Starr's wife is named Cherry Starr?

jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 25 January 2006 21:39 (nineteen years ago)

And she's NOT a porn actress?

jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 25 January 2006 21:39 (nineteen years ago)

Wow, they could have named it something other than Rawhide. My dad has this insufferable story about how he thought he saw Jim Lovell at the airport and it turned out to be Bart Starr. He went on and on about how the importance of aeronautics and then realized that he was talking to the wrong famous guy. Harharhar.

The Milkmaid (of human kindness) (The Milkmaid), Wednesday, 25 January 2006 21:44 (nineteen years ago)

I haven't read it before . . . it's really fascinating. It's complicated, engaging & creepy.

R. Kelsey (kelstarry), Wednesday, 25 January 2006 21:44 (nineteen years ago)

Bart Starr's wife is named Cherry Starr?
-- jaymc (jmcunnin...), Today.


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And she's NOT a porn actress?
-- jaymc (jmcunnin...), Today.

who says she can't be both?

otto midnight (otto midnight), Wednesday, 25 January 2006 21:51 (nineteen years ago)

Her name is extremely rhotic.

The Milkmaid (of human kindness) (The Milkmaid), Wednesday, 25 January 2006 21:51 (nineteen years ago)

Is that really a word or are you just fucking with me?

Jordan (Jordan), Wednesday, 25 January 2006 21:57 (nineteen years ago)

Oh, it's real alright. Usually it refers to r-ful dialects, like ours (as opposed to a non-rhotic dialect, like in England) I stretched it by using it to refer to an r-ful (hehe) name, but I had to! It was waiting for me!

The Milkmaid (of human kindness) (The Milkmaid), Wednesday, 25 January 2006 22:00 (nineteen years ago)

Funk so pretty you and me
Rhotic city come alive

Jordan (Jordan), Wednesday, 25 January 2006 22:02 (nineteen years ago)

"Rhotic, Rhotic, put your hands all over my bodice."

The Milkmaid (of human kindness) (The Milkmaid), Wednesday, 25 January 2006 22:03 (nineteen years ago)

Oh, I should be ashamed of myself but I'm not.

The Milkmaid (of human kindness) (The Milkmaid), Wednesday, 25 January 2006 22:03 (nineteen years ago)

I have a lingering distrust of r's stemming from not being able to pronounce them reliably as a kid.

Jordan (Jordan), Wednesday, 25 January 2006 22:06 (nineteen years ago)

AW ANGRY

n/a (Nick A.), Wednesday, 25 January 2006 22:58 (nineteen years ago)

GRAN WAY

n/a (Nick A.), Wednesday, 25 January 2006 22:58 (nineteen years ago)

YARN WAG

n/a (Nick A.), Wednesday, 25 January 2006 22:59 (nineteen years ago)

GRAY, WAN

n/a (Nick A.), Wednesday, 25 January 2006 22:59 (nineteen years ago)

WARY NAG (that's probably the best one so far)

n/a (Nick A.), Wednesday, 25 January 2006 23:00 (nineteen years ago)

I miss NIck. Nick, I've missed you. How's work?

Laurel (Laurel), Wednesday, 25 January 2006 23:00 (nineteen years ago)

NAW, GARY

n/a (Nick A.), Wednesday, 25 January 2006 23:01 (nineteen years ago)

Work is good. I got home at 1:15 today and after I took care of sick Sarah I took a sympathetic 2-hour nap on the couch.

n/a (Nick A.), Wednesday, 25 January 2006 23:02 (nineteen years ago)

A WRY NAG

Jordan (Jordan), Wednesday, 25 January 2006 23:03 (nineteen years ago)

(x post)

Jordan (Jordan), Wednesday, 25 January 2006 23:03 (nineteen years ago)

I actually worked an 8-hour day for the first time yesterday, but it was because we had a 45-minute staff meeting and then a 45-minute birthday lunch for somebody. But I'm getting my first semi-full paycheck on Friday (82 hours).

n/a (Nick A.), Wednesday, 25 January 2006 23:03 (nineteen years ago)

WARN GAY

n/a (Nick A.), Wednesday, 25 January 2006 23:04 (nineteen years ago)

haha

Jordan (Jordan), Wednesday, 25 January 2006 23:05 (nineteen years ago)

I just spent too much time trying to remember if "Yaw" is a word or if I'm just conflating "maw" and "yew." Is a yaw a type of boat or is that something else?

n/a (Nick A.), Wednesday, 25 January 2006 23:06 (nineteen years ago)

I'm working late tonight btw, so I'll be available for anagram games for another 3-4 hours.

xpost, I think it's refers to a directional thing for planes and boats, maybe the opposite of "pitch"?

Jordan (Jordan), Wednesday, 25 January 2006 23:06 (nineteen years ago)

Rotation around the front-to-back axis is called roll.
Rotation around the side-to-side axis is called pitch.
Rotation around the vertical axis is called yaw.

http://www.nasm.si.edu/exhibitions/gal109/NEWHTF/images/HTFPRY.GIF

Sooo, if a boat yaws, then that's bad.

Jordan (Jordan), Wednesday, 25 January 2006 23:08 (nineteen years ago)

1 yaw n [origin unknown] (1546) 1 : the action of yawing; esp : a side to side movement 2 : the extent of the movement in yawing

2 yaw vi (1586) 1 a of a ship : to deviate erratically from a course (as swhen struck by a heavy sea); esp : to move from side to side b of an airplane, spacecraft, or projectile: to turn by angular motion about the vertical axis 2 : ALTERNATE

jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 25 January 2006 23:09 (nineteen years ago)

Oops, there were angle brackets that got erased at the end there.

jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 25 January 2006 23:10 (nineteen years ago)

I see.

Raw Yaw.

Jordan (Jordan), Wednesday, 25 January 2006 23:12 (nineteen years ago)

I thought so, but I kept getting confused because of that Katherine Hepburn/Cary Grant movie where they keep talking about their boat and saying "My, she was yarr." What does that even mean? That was a good movie, too bad I can't remember what it's called.

n/a (Nick A.), Wednesday, 25 January 2006 23:12 (nineteen years ago)

Philadelphia Story?

Jordan (Jordan), Wednesday, 25 January 2006 23:15 (nineteen years ago)

Dexter has just proposed]
Tracy Lord: Oh Dexter you're not doing it just to soften the blow?
C. K. Dexter Haven: No.
Tracy Lord: Nor to save my face?
C. K. Dexter Haven: Oh, it's a nice little face.
Tracy Lord: Oh Dexter, I'll be yar now, I promise to be yar.
C. K. Dexter Haven: Be whatever you like, you're my redhead.

Ooookay.

Jordan (Jordan), Wednesday, 25 January 2006 23:16 (nineteen years ago)

I love that movie! He's a lush and she's a Puritan, and she wears the UTMOST cutest bathing suit.

Laurel (Laurel), Wednesday, 25 January 2006 23:17 (nineteen years ago)

the boat in the swimming pool? am i totally remembering that wrong?

Juulia (julesbdules), Wednesday, 25 January 2006 23:17 (nineteen years ago)

I love that movie, too. Really, at base, it's an entire movie about the effects of alcohol and little else. Nothing would happen in it at all if everyone didn't get madly pissed.

Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Wednesday, 25 January 2006 23:21 (nineteen years ago)

I want to see that.

Raw Yaw.

This reminds me of when Rain Man came out, and I misread the movie theater marquee -- I think some of the letters were tilted --and thought it said RAW MAW.

jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 25 January 2006 23:23 (nineteen years ago)

I want to see it too. I don't actually know anything about it, I'm just a compulsive googler.

Jordan (Jordan), Wednesday, 25 January 2006 23:24 (nineteen years ago)

Which is actually similar to another childhood memory of a marquee -- in fact, the first memory I have of a marquee period -- which was at the Louis Joliet Mall in Joliet, Illinois, and they were showing "MR. MOM" -- which, as a four year old, really confused me.

jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 25 January 2006 23:25 (nineteen years ago)

RAW MAW

Yikes. Like when you eat a lot of Cap'n Crunch right out of the box? That makes your maw quite raw, IIRC.

Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Wednesday, 25 January 2006 23:25 (nineteen years ago)

Wait, so it's The Philadelphia Story? OH! I just realized my further confusion. I thought of the name "The Philadelphia Story" but then I convinced myself that that was the name of the Hepburn movie with the leopard, but THEN I remembered that the leopard was named Baby and that took me to "Bringing Up Baby," which is the other movie. Yes. The Philadelphia Story. Sarah has a toy cat named C.K. Dexter Haven. Doesn't Grant punch Hepburn, or slap her at least?

n/a (Nick A.), Wednesday, 25 January 2006 23:26 (nineteen years ago)

My favorite marquee memory was "SWING SHIFT" oh-so-cleverly modified to say "SING SHIT".

Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Wednesday, 25 January 2006 23:27 (nineteen years ago)

Katharine Hepburn bugs me. Always did. Can't say why.

Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Wednesday, 25 January 2006 23:28 (nineteen years ago)

i think he slapped her. but my memory is shit.

Juulia (julesbdules), Wednesday, 25 January 2006 23:29 (nineteen years ago)

Katherine Hepbun was hot back when she was hot.

I like her in "A Lion in Winter" too.

Jordan (Jordan), Wednesday, 25 January 2006 23:31 (nineteen years ago)

I like Katherine Hepburn and I like Cate Blanchett, but you know what I don't like? Cate Blanchett getting an Oscar for doing an imitation of Katherine Hepburn. That was total bullshit!

n/a (Nick A.), Wednesday, 25 January 2006 23:33 (nineteen years ago)

I'll shoot you with my
WANG RAY

There's a sign on Lincoln Avenue that advertises 'KABBALAH CRSES', which always reads as 'curses' to me.

I liked Cate B. as Katharine H. I thought she was great it 'The Gift', or was that the topless Katie Holmes that was great?

Eazy (Eazy), Thursday, 26 January 2006 01:55 (nineteen years ago)

Katherine Hepbun was hot back when she was hot.

I dunno. I guess is a vaguely creepy Faye Dunaway sort of way.

Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Thursday, 26 January 2006 01:56 (nineteen years ago)

IN a vaguely creepy etc

Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Thursday, 26 January 2006 01:57 (nineteen years ago)

Eazy wins.

Jordan (Jordan), Thursday, 26 January 2006 01:57 (nineteen years ago)

I don't get it. What is the sign supposed to say?

Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Thursday, 26 January 2006 02:23 (nineteen years ago)

Courses! Kabbalah Courses!

Eazy (Eazy), Thursday, 26 January 2006 02:55 (nineteen years ago)

i read it as crises initially.

Juulia (julesbdules), Thursday, 26 January 2006 04:44 (nineteen years ago)

I hate the train some mornings.

Jeff. (Jeff), Thursday, 26 January 2006 14:50 (nineteen years ago)

Is it just me, or have there been a lot of delays lately? Also - TAL is moving to New York? That's depressing.

The Milkmaid (of human kindness) (The Milkmaid), Thursday, 26 January 2006 15:05 (nineteen years ago)

The Brown Line in particular has been slooooow lately.

Where did you hear that about TAL, Amanda?

jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 26 January 2006 15:07 (nineteen years ago)

I saw it on Gaper's Block! Something about a tee vee show?

The Milkmaid (of human kindness) (The Milkmaid), Thursday, 26 January 2006 15:07 (nineteen years ago)

'This American Life' leaving Chicago behind

January 25, 2006

BY ROBERT FEDER SUN-TIMES COLUMNIST Advertisement

After 10 years as one of Chicago's premier radio exports to the world, "This American Life" is leaving the city and its beloved production home at WBEZ-FM (91.5).

But even as he prepares to pack up and move to New York, host and producer Ira Glass vows the critically acclaimed show will never lose its Midwestern roots and Chicago sensibilities.

"Honestly, it's not like the Dodgers leaving Brooklyn," he said. "This won't change the stories we do or how the show will sound."

The impending move by Glass and his Chicago team of three producers and one intern was prompted by an order from Showtime to air a television series based on the radio show. Production will begin this spring on the first six episodes to premiere in fall or winter.

Glass said he plans to maintain close ties to WBEZ, and hopes to return often to participate in pledge drives and other events at the public radio station.

"When we launched 'This American Life,' we knew what was happening on the show was unmatched in other media," said Torey Malatia, president and general manager of Chicago Public Radio, who co-founded the show with Glass. "Now, 10 years later, our little radio show is setting the bar for creative and thoughtful storytelling."

The Milkmaid (of human kindness) (The Milkmaid), Thursday, 26 January 2006 15:08 (nineteen years ago)

Nothing would happen in it at all if everyone didn't get madly pissed.

Much like my life. Not that I'm complaining.

Laurel (Laurel), Thursday, 26 January 2006 15:13 (nineteen years ago)

You know, I don't mind that TAL is moving if it means they're branching out and doing something new. It had sort of had its day.

jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 26 January 2006 15:19 (nineteen years ago)

TAL is a bad imitation of itself these days.

gbx (skowly), Thursday, 26 January 2006 15:22 (nineteen years ago)

I guess I haven't listened to too many new episodes. I've been listening to a lot of old ones (thanks Kelsey!) for my class and I was so glad to tell my students that the show was made in Chicago. I guess those shows were made in Chicago...

The Milkmaid (of human kindness) (The Milkmaid), Thursday, 26 January 2006 15:25 (nineteen years ago)

There was a guy sitting beside me today with his legs spread far open as possible, and he was bouncing his knees. He was also reading a paper, and kept digging his elbows in my side. And please, control your fucking bag, it's not that hard.

I'm going to lose it one day.

Jeff. (Jeff), Thursday, 26 January 2006 15:31 (nineteen years ago)

I saw a woman almost lose it on the bus the other night because of someone doing almost exactly the same thing. The other person was taking a big backpack off and it pretty much just whacked the woman in the face. Then the person sat down and kind of sprawled all over the seat. It was painful to watch, but luckily my stop came up soon. As soon as I got out of the seat, the woman dashed into it.

Df'nM (OutDatWay), Thursday, 26 January 2006 15:36 (nineteen years ago)

i hate the train every morning. the blue line before 7 a.m. is basically an electrically propelled homeless shelter and the stink some mornings can be unbearable. yesterday i had to change cars it was so bad. today was better by comparison.

otto midnight (otto midnight), Thursday, 26 January 2006 15:41 (nineteen years ago)

The other person was taking a big backpack off and it pretty much just whacked the woman in the face.

i saw something similar about 2 or 3 weeks back on the #49 bus going up western. some older (i'm guessing mid to late 40s) dude had a pair of roller blades tied at the laces draped over his shoulder. since it was rush hour the bus was packed and with the guy's skates kept swinging into this woman's head who was sitting next to where he was standing. she said something to him but all i could hear was him saying, "hey it's the bus, you've got to expect something like this."

what a dick.

otto midnight (otto midnight), Thursday, 26 January 2006 15:45 (nineteen years ago)

the blue line before 7 a.m. is basically an electrically propelled homeless shelter
try getting on the red line at jarvis at 6AM. reek city. i don't know which is worse. sometimes i see young people though, like actual children, who definitely look homeless and it makes me sad. they usually switch from north to south at jarvis instead of howard, maybe because there's less security?

The Milkmaid (of human kindness) (The Milkmaid), Thursday, 26 January 2006 15:54 (nineteen years ago)

Jeff, I was having the same train-despising moments this morning, and I tried to calm myself down and stop being ridiculous, but I'm so glad you're sharing the hate. My personal vendetta is against girls who carry purses over their shoulders and pay no attention to who it's banging into behind them. Even when it doesn't poke or hurt, it's so goddamn ANNOYING to have something repeatedly bashing your arm/hip/etc.

Laurel (Laurel), Thursday, 26 January 2006 16:01 (nineteen years ago)

Dear people,
Do not eat smelly, gloopy, mayonnaisey sandwiches while sitting next to me.

Your compliance is appreciated.

--The management

The Milkmaid (of human kindness) (The Milkmaid), Thursday, 26 January 2006 16:03 (nineteen years ago)

Who's eating mayonnaise before 10:00 am?

Jordan (Jordan), Thursday, 26 January 2006 16:05 (nineteen years ago)

Adrian said someone microwaved fish sticks in his office yesterday morning. We knew who it was too.

jocelyn (Jocelyn), Thursday, 26 January 2006 16:09 (nineteen years ago)

It's more the afternoon/evening people. I find the morning crowd a little easier to take, mostly because no one is talking.

EW-- microwaved? That's truly vile.

The Milkmaid (of human kindness) (The Milkmaid), Thursday, 26 January 2006 16:10 (nineteen years ago)

microwaved fish stick breakfast
microwaved fish stick breakfast
microwaved fish stick breakfast
microwaved fish stick breakfast
microwaved fish stick breakfast
microwaved fish stick breakfast

Jordan (Jordan), Thursday, 26 January 2006 16:11 (nineteen years ago)

How's Sarah? Better? Back at work? Sleepin' on the coucheroo? I hope there was a full afternoon of MeTV involved.

The Milkmaid (of human kindness) (The Milkmaid), Thursday, 26 January 2006 16:12 (nineteen years ago)

Who's eating mayonnaise before 10:00 am?

mayonnaise before 10 : fat fuck :: beer before noon : alcoholic

Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Thursday, 26 January 2006 16:18 (nineteen years ago)

beer before noon is acceptable if you're tailgating before a football game.

Jeff. (Jeff), Thursday, 26 January 2006 16:19 (nineteen years ago)

There was a woman on the train one day that I think was dead. She smelled deead. I'm not exaggurating -- there was the smell of rotting meat heavy about her. And she was slumped over and did not move a muscle all the way from Bryn Mawr to Washington. It was horrifying. Because what do you do? What if she's actually dead?

Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Thursday, 26 January 2006 16:20 (nineteen years ago)

I can't hear the words "fat fuck" anymore without thinking of:

http://www.hbo.com/larrydavid/img/252x190/252x190_susie_sweet.jpg

jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 26 January 2006 16:28 (nineteen years ago)

Doesn't it take a while for corpses to start stinking? How long could she have been there? They make everyone get off at the end of the line, right? She couldn't have been there longer than 2 hours by that estimate.

The Milkmaid (of human kindness) (The Milkmaid), Thursday, 26 January 2006 16:29 (nineteen years ago)

It'll be interesting to how TAL works as a T.V. show. It seems like for years the show was fueled in part by their rule-breaking - that (when they started) you can't talk in Glass's fumbling way on the radio, you can't focus on the mundane parts of Americana, etc. - but now they've successfully flipped the script and won the revolution. It doesn't make the show worse, but I can see how it can take away some of the momentum (same with Beck, Tarantino, Tony Kushner, other 1990s innovators who are now widely imitated - they did something new and they got their way).

Eazy (Eazy), Thursday, 26 January 2006 16:30 (nineteen years ago)

(ugh - I write and then rewrite, and I don't change my verb tenses, articles, etc.)

Eazy (Eazy), Thursday, 26 January 2006 16:32 (nineteen years ago)

She'd have to have been there for a while to start rotting.


She was probably just smelly.

gbx (skowly), Thursday, 26 January 2006 16:34 (nineteen years ago)

Or gangrenous. That's possible.

Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Thursday, 26 January 2006 16:34 (nineteen years ago)

I've drank this before 9:30 am:

http://www.foundersbrewing.com/labels/Breakfast_4Pack_Side.jpg

Jordan (Jordan), Thursday, 26 January 2006 16:36 (nineteen years ago)

There are of course exceptions to every rule.

Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Thursday, 26 January 2006 16:38 (nineteen years ago)

I've drank this before... well... let's just say for breakfast:

http://www.zianet.com/spencer/pigseye1204.jpg

Df'nM (OutDatWay), Thursday, 26 January 2006 16:40 (nineteen years ago)

Does it still count as breakfast if you haven't been to sleep yet?

Laurel (Laurel), Thursday, 26 January 2006 16:42 (nineteen years ago)

I would be inclined to say no... but that's just me. In this case, it was the only sustenance available to me, not a Kr|s Kr|stofferson situation.

Df'nM (OutDatWay), Thursday, 26 January 2006 16:46 (nineteen years ago)

Nope. Although the after-bar meal really needs a name of its own.

Jordan (Jordan), Thursday, 26 January 2006 16:47 (nineteen years ago)

A long and fascinating article about another faux-memoir author...
http://www.laweekly.com/index.php?option=com_lawcontent&task=view&id=12468&Itemid=9
(Since I know Amanda is "unhealthily obsessed" with J.T. Leroy)

jocelyn (Jocelyn), Thursday, 26 January 2006 16:49 (nineteen years ago)

I think that no matter what you're eating, you should call it pizza. Like, "After we left the bar, everyone wanted pizza so we stopped for some burritos and guacamole."

The Milkmaid (of human kindness) (The Milkmaid), Thursday, 26 January 2006 16:50 (nineteen years ago)

Oh, that article looks great! Thanks!

The Milkmaid (of human kindness) (The Milkmaid), Thursday, 26 January 2006 16:51 (nineteen years ago)

I like the pizza as food genre idea. I'm in.

Jordan (Jordan), Thursday, 26 January 2006 17:00 (nineteen years ago)

You could go out for pizza and get any kind of food: falafel, a gyro, burrito, burgers. Anything goes when it's pizza time.

The Milkmaid (of human kindness) (The Milkmaid), Thursday, 26 January 2006 17:02 (nineteen years ago)

Even breakfast!

The Milkmaid (of human kindness) (The Milkmaid), Thursday, 26 January 2006 17:02 (nineteen years ago)

It's like "Coke" in the South. As in, "I'll have a 7-Up Coke."

jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 26 January 2006 17:03 (nineteen years ago)

Like, "After we left the bar, everyone wanted pizza so we stopped for some burritos and guacamole."

I'm just afraid that saying things like that will make people look at you like you've blown a vacuum tube.

Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Thursday, 26 January 2006 17:03 (nineteen years ago)

I love it! Last night I wanted diner fare but ended up with Mexican food, instead, so it kind of makes sense.

Laurel (Laurel), Thursday, 26 January 2006 17:05 (nineteen years ago)

Has anyone noticed the front table at Myopic lately? It's a whole display of fraudulent books, with snarky comment cards. Pretty funny stuff.

Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Thursday, 26 January 2006 17:05 (nineteen years ago)

I think that no matter what you're eating, you should call it pizza. Like, "After we left the bar, everyone wanted pizza so we stopped for some burritos and guacamole."

You are a treat.

gbx (skowly), Thursday, 26 January 2006 17:18 (nineteen years ago)

Yeah, that's a sign of genius, that idea.

Df'nM (OutDatWay), Thursday, 26 January 2006 17:36 (nineteen years ago)

Now it's up to us to give this word legs! I could even teach it to my students. I'm not sure how many of them go out to bars though. Maybe some? It's not really that far off from saying "You guys wanna go out for pizza or something?"

The Milkmaid (of human kindness) (The Milkmaid), Thursday, 26 January 2006 17:39 (nineteen years ago)

It's situational, that's the trick. You have to introduce the word at that post-bar-drinking-binge time.

Df'nM (OutDatWay), Thursday, 26 January 2006 17:41 (nineteen years ago)

So pizza =

1) any meal consumed after beers.
2) any meal consumed after 11pm, providing you're not at home.
3) any meal that includes pizza.

Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Thursday, 26 January 2006 17:42 (nineteen years ago)

Correct. Now, I'm hardly a tastemaker, so some of the cool kids have to use this word. Go forth, my goslings.

The Milkmaid (of human kindness) (The Milkmaid), Thursday, 26 January 2006 17:45 (nineteen years ago)

Yeah, I'd say "any foodstuff consumed post-boozing when you crave salty/savory protein".

Laurel (Laurel), Thursday, 26 January 2006 17:45 (nineteen years ago)

Things that are bugging me right now:

1) The Mac ads for the Intel processor that go on and on about how the Intel chip has been released from its boring old environment and set free to do much more interesting things. It stinks of desperation.

2) People who say "font" when they mean "typeface."

Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Thursday, 26 January 2006 17:55 (nineteen years ago)

#2 is very new. I did it myself until recently. But now that I know the difference, I feel I should spread the gospel through my annoyance.

Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Thursday, 26 January 2006 17:56 (nineteen years ago)

1) The Mac ads for the Intel processor that go on and on about how the Intel chip has been released from its boring old environment and set free to do much more interesting things. It stinks of desperation.

It also bites off the video for the Postal Service's "Such Great Heights."

jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 26 January 2006 18:01 (nineteen years ago)

I am currently stuffed with tacos & rice pizza.

jocelyn (Jocelyn), Thursday, 26 January 2006 18:10 (nineteen years ago)

Tacos and rice are some of the best things to have for pizza.

The Milkmaid (of human kindness) (The Milkmaid), Thursday, 26 January 2006 18:12 (nineteen years ago)

I agree.

But... just so I can keep this straight... unless she was out boozing with her buddies this morning (and I kinda hope that's the case, because that's the kind of life of leisure I can really envy), that was lunch.

Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Thursday, 26 January 2006 18:14 (nineteen years ago)

Yes, but it was a noble attempt. For homework, on Monday I want you each to tell me what you had for pizza this weekend.

The Milkmaid (of human kindness) (The Milkmaid), Thursday, 26 January 2006 18:17 (nineteen years ago)

Yeah, lunch. I missed the rules for pizza. I ate at La B@mba's, which somehow escapes the space-time continuum. Even though it's on campus, I never see students there, only blue-collar job guys, and they always play that old-fashioned Mexican polka/waltz music instead of pop music.

jocelyn (Jocelyn), Thursday, 26 January 2006 18:18 (nineteen years ago)

old-fashioned Mexican polka/waltz music

It only sounds old fashioned. Actully, those are the hottest new Mexican hits.

Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Thursday, 26 January 2006 18:26 (nineteen years ago)

Depends. Norteno as a genre has been around for a long time.

jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 26 January 2006 18:29 (nineteen years ago)

I was trying to explain Norteño to some of my friends from back home, and they were especially confused by the fact that some kids bump it rap-music style, with big bass and everything.

Df'nM (OutDatWay), Thursday, 26 January 2006 18:33 (nineteen years ago)

Last night for pizza I had an EXTREMELY salty beef quesadilla, with two, count 'em, TWO sides of sour cream. Mmmm, dairy products in the middle of the night.

Laurel (Laurel), Thursday, 26 January 2006 18:33 (nineteen years ago)

I was trying to explain Norteño to some of my friends from back home, and they were especially confused by the fact that some kids bump it rap-music style, with big bass and everything.

I'm especially confused by the fact that it exists. Considering every genre and style of music that I've ever heard in my life, that may suck the worst.

Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Thursday, 26 January 2006 18:36 (nineteen years ago)

So Norteno (pls excuse the lack of tilde) is, what, Northern Mexican? And Tejano is Texan, obv. Any particular stylistic differences?

Laurel (Laurel), Thursday, 26 January 2006 18:38 (nineteen years ago)

I kinda like it for some reason. I heard some pretty racy narcocorridos on the radio recently and was kind of surprised they were openly singing about kilos and whatnot.

The Milkmaid (of human kindness) (The Milkmaid), Thursday, 26 January 2006 18:38 (nineteen years ago)

ok, that's pretty cool.

Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Thursday, 26 January 2006 18:39 (nineteen years ago)

Hey dudes, so I need some advice. The "19-year-old" just got back from Prague the other day, and so I want to follow up with her -- but when I e-mail her, I want to have something specific planned for us to do, just because it's been almost two months since we first met, and I'm not excited about dragging it on even more. So what should we do? Should I just suggest coffee? (I'd rather have "drinks" but I still don't know whether she's of age or not.) Or something more fun? I thought about the Second Friday gallery openings in Pilsen -- you know, cuz she's an art student -- but that's not until the 10th.

jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 26 January 2006 18:42 (nineteen years ago)

Yeah, I don't actively dislike it, but at first it seemed really really strange to me.

I love it when I take friends visiting town to my favorite taqueria and the music makes them just say "what the fuck is this?!?"

Df'nM (OutDatWay), Thursday, 26 January 2006 18:43 (nineteen years ago)

I think Tejano is more, I dunno, like pop-country-Tex-Mex and Norteno (sorry about the tilde again) is, like polka? I honestly don't know. I prefer salsa.

The Milkmaid (of human kindness) (The Milkmaid), Thursday, 26 January 2006 18:45 (nineteen years ago)

Invite her over, maybe? Make her some food and give her wine.

Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Thursday, 26 January 2006 18:45 (nineteen years ago)

Jaymc, this is why you suggest "drinks" so you can determine if she's 21 or not!

The Milkmaid (of human kindness) (The Milkmaid), Thursday, 26 January 2006 18:46 (nineteen years ago)

Man, I love Wikipedia:

Norteño (literally meaning "northern" in Spanish, and also known as conjunto) is a traditional style of Mexican music that originated in rural northern Mexico in the early 20th century, a form of music based largely on corridos and polka. The accordion and the bajo sexto is the music's most characteristic instruments. Norteño is extremely popular among first-generation Mexicans in both the inner city barrios and the rural countrysides of the United States and Mexico.

Norteño is by the most popular subgenre of the Tex-Mex musical category. It is not to be confused with tejano music, which is more similar to rock music.

jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 26 January 2006 18:46 (nineteen years ago)

Invite her over, maybe? Make her some food and give her wine.
This would creep me out. What's next, "would you like a backrub?"

The Milkmaid (of human kindness) (The Milkmaid), Thursday, 26 January 2006 18:47 (nineteen years ago)

Take her to a Norteño concert at the Congress Theatre.

Df'nM (OutDatWay), Thursday, 26 January 2006 18:47 (nineteen years ago)

I'm so glad Jay is here to look things up for me. :)

Laurel (Laurel), Thursday, 26 January 2006 18:49 (nineteen years ago)

Invite her over, maybe? Make her some food and give her wine.

My apartment is in no condition for anyone besides me to be, and it will be that way for a while ... or at least until my gay TV-designer cousin gives it a makeover.

Jaymc, this is why you suggest "drinks" so you can determine if she's 21 or not!

Only problem here is that she said she was going to come to the Schubas show, then asked if it was 21+ because some "friends" were interested in coming, and then when I said it was, she didn't come at all. So there's a part of me that thinks she's under 21 but doesn't want to tell me for some reason. It is also entirely possible that I am reading way too much into it.

jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 26 January 2006 18:49 (nineteen years ago)

I guess the way I see it is, if you ask her to go out for drinks, you're giving her a good, honest opportunity to tell you how old she is. She may or may not use this opportunity to be honest.

The Milkmaid (of human kindness) (The Milkmaid), Thursday, 26 January 2006 18:55 (nineteen years ago)

Good point.

jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 26 January 2006 18:56 (nineteen years ago)

Take her to an R-rated movie, just to be sure she's 18.

But, seriously, the Siskel, man. Take her to the Siskel. And if she is 19, you go to Jamba Juice afterwards.

Eazy (Eazy), Thursday, 26 January 2006 19:05 (nineteen years ago)

Wine...Backrub...Smooth Jazz...Jaymc is "The Older Man".

Eazy (Eazy), Thursday, 26 January 2006 19:07 (nineteen years ago)

This would creep me out. What's next, "would you like a backrub?"

Yeah, I forgot she's younger and this might look a little predatory. With a woman your own age, this would be a lot more acceptable.

Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Thursday, 26 January 2006 19:11 (nineteen years ago)

they were especially confused by the fact that some kids bump it rap-music style, with big bass and everything.

I have to try not to laugh when I see that.

I had gumbo for lunch. Except for the off-tasting shrimp, it would make great pizza.

Jordan (Jordan), Thursday, 26 January 2006 19:13 (nineteen years ago)

I dunno, Kenan, unless I have specifically complained of lower back pain, backrub offers just remind me of college dorm mixers. And eeewwww.

Laurel (Laurel), Thursday, 26 January 2006 19:15 (nineteen years ago)

No backrub offers. I didn't mean backrub offers. That was someone else's creepy contribution. Food and wine at your place is wonderful.

Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Thursday, 26 January 2006 19:18 (nineteen years ago)

OMG I just heard hot gossip! This woman I work with just came back from the dentist and she said that her dentist told her that a dentist named Dr. Humm3l was running a prostitution ring out of his office in Marina City! He gave the hookers free dental care too. Apparently he was just busted? Does anyone know about this?

High class hookers. Iconic architecture. Dentistry.

The Milkmaid (of human kindness) (The Milkmaid), Thursday, 26 January 2006 19:19 (nineteen years ago)

I think "mixers" is a word that most people under 50 don't use. Not that I'm implying anything, Laurel.

jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 26 January 2006 19:19 (nineteen years ago)

Better not use that word with the 19-year-old!

The Milkmaid (of human kindness) (The Milkmaid), Thursday, 26 January 2006 19:23 (nineteen years ago)

Did the hookers go slumming as dental assistants when business was slow?

Jordan (Jordan), Thursday, 26 January 2006 19:23 (nineteen years ago)

Whoops! Sorry, Kenan, I read your comment as an admission.

And Jay, imply away!! I'm kind of looking forward to being an old lady.

Laurel (Laurel), Thursday, 26 January 2006 19:25 (nineteen years ago)

I am too. Might as well look forward to it, since it's gonna happen anyway.

The Milkmaid (of human kindness) (The Milkmaid), Thursday, 26 January 2006 19:26 (nineteen years ago)

XP: Maybe they went slumming as dental assistants who made it onto the cast of Beauty and the Geek.

Laurel (Laurel), Thursday, 26 January 2006 19:26 (nineteen years ago)

Not surprisingly, I just discovered that this is not breaking news.

The Milkmaid (of human kindness) (The Milkmaid), Thursday, 26 January 2006 19:30 (nineteen years ago)

Dentist of the whores
A visit to the website of Gary Kimmel, a Chicago dentist, promises "Quality-professional dental care for the entire family." There's no mention of the work he did maintaining the smiles of his ring of prostitutes.

Kimmel, 54, has been accused by the FBI of earning over $400,000 as part of a prostitution ring going back to 2002.

The FBI's operation "Innocence Lost" revealed that for years Kimmel has been letting pimps send prostitutes and their clients to use his condos in Chicago's exclusive Marina Towers to conduct business.

The complaint also alleges that he furnished them with a fleet of luxury cars and gave them dental care. Often he would fix the broken teeth of women after they had been beaten.

Kimmel still lives at Marina Towers, where he is a board member and owner of nine units, with his wife and children. Just last year they sold their tenth condo.

Kimmel, known as "Doc" to his co-conspirators, would usually clean the teeth of newly arrived sex workers, who came from as far away as Hawaii. An informant told the FBI that dental work was often done on the women after hours in his downtown office.

Tapes reveal that Kimmel knew full well what business he and pimp Robert Lewis Young were in. During one conversation about an unreturned car, a pimp vows he'll set her straight.

"When it comes to me and you, and take care of real business, I'll cut all them legs off for you," the pimp told Kimmel.

"I'm glad to hear that," Kimmel allegedly said on the wiretap.

Kimmel's lawyer contends that his client was unaware that Young was a pimp. "The guy was a tenant; that's how he met him."

His website: http://www.garyskimmelddsltd.com/index.html

The Milkmaid (of human kindness) (The Milkmaid), Thursday, 26 January 2006 19:30 (nineteen years ago)

Those girls had some fine grillz.

Eazy (Eazy), Thursday, 26 January 2006 19:33 (nineteen years ago)

You never can trust those dentists. Slippery folk.
Yes, Norteno music, that's it. I couldn't remember the name of it, but I started reading "The Queen of the South" a while back (didn't finish it) and it's mentioned a lot in there, especially the songs about famous drug runners and how they fooled the lawmen, again.

jocelyn (Jocelyn), Thursday, 26 January 2006 19:33 (nineteen years ago)

I've heard the dentist/marina city thing. Maybe jenny told me about it. wacky.

Jeff. (Jeff), Thursday, 26 January 2006 19:56 (nineteen years ago)

Whoops! Sorry, Kenan, I read your comment as an admission.

It seems counterintuitive, but outside of certain select scenarios, sex always comes before backrubs.

Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Thursday, 26 January 2006 19:56 (nineteen years ago)

http://images.amazon.com/images/P/B00000656E.01.LZZZZZZZ.jpg

Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Thursday, 26 January 2006 19:58 (nineteen years ago)

I've always found the conventional wisdom of backrubs ----> sex to be true.

Of course, many times a backrub is just a backrub.

Jordan (Jordan), Thursday, 26 January 2006 19:58 (nineteen years ago)

I say sex comes first because asking to give a backrub if you're not already intimate is so potentially unctuous that you're better off just making out, already.

Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Thursday, 26 January 2006 20:00 (nineteen years ago)

Um yeah. The offering of a backrub to a stranger out of nowhere is like spraying sex repellent.

The Milkmaid (of human kindness) (The Milkmaid), Thursday, 26 January 2006 20:01 (nineteen years ago)

Also:
Clinique's Youth Dew fragrance = sex repellent

The Milkmaid (of human kindness) (The Milkmaid), Thursday, 26 January 2006 20:02 (nineteen years ago)

But what about in a date situation? It may be a little high school, yeah, but asking someone else for a backrub is like the shy person's version of "wanna make out?"

Jordan (Jordan), Thursday, 26 January 2006 20:05 (nineteen years ago)

I don't remember the last time I got a backrub. Wah.

jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 26 January 2006 20:07 (nineteen years ago)

You should get a massage at the school of massage therapy! (I can't remember where it is) They're like $25 for an hour. I've never been there, but my friend has and she liked it.

The Milkmaid (of human kindness) (The Milkmaid), Thursday, 26 January 2006 20:09 (nineteen years ago)

Yikes. That sounded weird. I didn't mean it that way.

The Milkmaid (of human kindness) (The Milkmaid), Thursday, 26 January 2006 20:10 (nineteen years ago)

Jordan: no. And I HAVE lower back problems and I still say no.

Laurel (Laurel), Thursday, 26 January 2006 20:10 (nineteen years ago)

Wait, why does that sound weird, A?

jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 26 January 2006 20:11 (nineteen years ago)

You never ask anyone for a backrub, Laurel?

Jordan (Jordan), Thursday, 26 January 2006 20:13 (nineteen years ago)

Oh, I dunno. I felt like it sounded like I was telling you to see a backrub hooker, which is not what I meant. I meant that professionals do it (rub backs) better than laypeople and there's no smarmy weirdness to worry about. Ideally.

The Milkmaid (of human kindness) (The Milkmaid), Thursday, 26 January 2006 20:13 (nineteen years ago)

Nick and Sarah:

http://www.20six.fr/anakin/archive/2006/01/23/1rvsobboaic4u.htm

Allez, un petit dernier pour la route. The Fake Fictions. Toujours de Chicago. C’est un trio de lo-fi garage pop. Pour écouter c’est ici. J’aime beaucoup leur Lasso The Moon.

jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 26 January 2006 20:14 (nineteen years ago)

I agree with Laurel. The old backrub-offer, between two people who aren't that intimate, should be avoided. If you wanna make out, make out. Don't fabricate a transparent pretense for touching the other person.

ALTHOUGH, I do like the old "you've got an eyelash on your cheek let me touch your face" trick. that's kinda cute.

The Milkmaid (of human kindness) (The Milkmaid), Thursday, 26 January 2006 20:17 (nineteen years ago)

Maddie totally asked me for a backrub on our first "date". I can't remember if we had already made out by that point, but I'm thinking no.

Of course, at the time I didn't know that she has horrible back problems and that I would give her hundreds of non-sexy backrubs in the future (there are sexy ones too, tho).

Jordan (Jordan), Thursday, 26 January 2006 20:22 (nineteen years ago)

Jordan, are you serious? Uh-uh. Backs are absolutely not public-touch places, and the lower it is, the more that's true. Reserved strictly for the making of out.

Laurel (Laurel), Thursday, 26 January 2006 20:22 (nineteen years ago)

Btw, in my dating example I'm talking about one person asking the other person for a backrub, not asking to give someone else a backrub. Does that make it less icky?

Jordan (Jordan), Thursday, 26 January 2006 20:23 (nineteen years ago)

In my band, Colin is known as a good backrub-giver, so occasionally EL will ask him for one during rehearsal or whatever. He's given me backrubs, too. Not a big deal.

jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 26 January 2006 20:24 (nineteen years ago)

xpost Only if the person asking is not me.

Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Thursday, 26 January 2006 20:25 (nineteen years ago)

Less icky, but no less inconceivable for me. :)

Laurel (Laurel), Thursday, 26 January 2006 20:26 (nineteen years ago)

Jordan - I think so (different in your case),because neither of you is gross, unlike some of the distinctly unsavory backrub offers I've received in the distant past.

The Milkmaid (of human kindness) (The Milkmaid), Thursday, 26 January 2006 20:26 (nineteen years ago)

So all you're saying is no backrubs from anyone other than a confirmed significant other or masseuse?

xpost

Jordan (Jordan), Thursday, 26 January 2006 20:28 (nineteen years ago)

Yep. Well, "significant other" might be laying it on a bit thick -- maybe "person I like enough to make out with in the first place" is better?

Laurel (Laurel), Thursday, 26 January 2006 20:32 (nineteen years ago)

I'd say a good guideline is whether you're comfortable with them seeing your ass.

Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Thursday, 26 January 2006 20:34 (nineteen years ago)

I didn't think we were talking about nude, flat-on-your-stomack backrubs as much as "hey I have a knot between my shoulder blades, can you massage it for a few seconds?"

jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 26 January 2006 20:40 (nineteen years ago)

There's also the distinction between horizontal backrubs and the more chaste sitting-up variety to consider.

xpost, yeah, me too

Jordan (Jordan), Thursday, 26 January 2006 20:41 (nineteen years ago)

I've got this knot above my right shoulder blade...

xpost - omg, I wrote that before John's message just turned up.

Eazy (Eazy), Thursday, 26 January 2006 20:41 (nineteen years ago)

"stomack"?

jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 26 January 2006 20:41 (nineteen years ago)

http://www.atomic.de/pics/-d_in_motion_cover/bobby%20womack.jpg

jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 26 January 2006 20:42 (nineteen years ago)

?
I agree with Laurel, it all faintly smacks of freshman week of college, when "wanna trade backrubs" was thinly veiled talk for "let's go back to my room and make out and maybe have sex and can I invite a few others too?"

jocelyn (Jocelyn), Thursday, 26 January 2006 20:42 (nineteen years ago)

But then again if it was someone I knew, that would be different.

jocelyn (Jocelyn), Thursday, 26 January 2006 20:43 (nineteen years ago)

I have clearly reached the point of slap-happiness. I larfed at "stomack?"

The Milkmaid (of human kindness) (The Milkmaid), Thursday, 26 January 2006 20:44 (nineteen years ago)

leaf just got into a summer program in beijing! i'm thinking about going with him . . . it's for a month.

R. Kelsey (kelstarry), Thursday, 26 January 2006 20:44 (nineteen years ago)

I think there's the whole element of the risk of turning your back on someone, too. It sounds a little crazy even to me, but I'm trying to think about why I'm so bothered by the idea...and I keep coming up with the fact that the recipient is pretty much defenseless and can't see what's going on. Must be the PTSD from all those years in 'Nam.

Laurel (Laurel), Thursday, 26 January 2006 20:45 (nineteen years ago)

That's why you need mirrors on all your walls.

Jordan (Jordan), Thursday, 26 January 2006 20:46 (nineteen years ago)

whoa! kelsey! that's exciting!

laurel - i totally agree with you about the "can't see em'" factor. it makes me uncomf too. also, i'm pretty small and i don't like people heavily touching my back.

The Milkmaid (of human kindness) (The Milkmaid), Thursday, 26 January 2006 20:46 (nineteen years ago)

That sounds interesting! Do you know any Chinese or would you learn very quickly?

jocelyn (Jocelyn), Thursday, 26 January 2006 20:46 (nineteen years ago)

Backrubs seem decidedly more intimate if there is any removal of clothing. EVEN IF the removal of clothing is taking off your sweater to get rubbed above your tshirt. Mostly, though, I find backrubs to be fairly intimate allaround.

R. Kelsey (kelstarry), Thursday, 26 January 2006 20:50 (nineteen years ago)

when my girlfriend asks for a backrub i know i'm not getting any. it relaxes the horny right out of her. when she asks for a foot massage however...

otto midnight (otto midnight), Thursday, 26 January 2006 20:54 (nineteen years ago)

I'm surprised to hear you say that, Kelsey. About backrubs, not about China. I like the idea of you going back to China -- I think it would be good for you.

jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 26 January 2006 21:00 (nineteen years ago)

Back to China?

Jordan (Jordan), Thursday, 26 January 2006 21:01 (nineteen years ago)

Yes.

http://www.singlecell.to/images/going_back_to_china.jpg

jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 26 January 2006 21:02 (nineteen years ago)

Not to be confused with Cali.

Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Thursday, 26 January 2006 21:05 (nineteen years ago)

I have no idea what that image is, btw, but I am sort of fascinated by it.

jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 26 January 2006 21:06 (nineteen years ago)

I like the marshmallow on her head.

The Milkmaid (of human kindness) (The Milkmaid), Thursday, 26 January 2006 21:07 (nineteen years ago)

I lived there for 6 months.
xpost

R. Kelsey (kelstarry), Thursday, 26 January 2006 21:08 (nineteen years ago)

I made it to Hot Doug's today. It's his birthday.

Df'nM (OutDatWay), Thursday, 26 January 2006 21:09 (nineteen years ago)

Also Paul Newman's birthday. (aka Hot Paul)

The Milkmaid (of human kindness) (The Milkmaid), Thursday, 26 January 2006 21:10 (nineteen years ago)

her left hand is kind of fascinating--the glove looks like it's made of wax, and what's up with her thumb?

china sounds great. i miss travel.

it's my sister's birthday. i was going to send her an email and wish her a happy australia day, but then forgot and sent a regular bday message.

Juulia (julesbdules), Thursday, 26 January 2006 21:12 (nineteen years ago)

What kind of hot dog did you have, Dan? Don't spare the details.

Jordan (Jordan), Thursday, 26 January 2006 21:23 (nineteen years ago)

The Klaus Flouride (Today's Celebrity Sausage)
Hot Doug's Uber Garlic Beef Sausage with Garlic Confit Aioli and Monterey Jack Cheese

Df'nM (OutDatWay), Thursday, 26 January 2006 21:33 (nineteen years ago)

I did it because it was Klaus Fluoride, and his solo album sucked.

Df'nM (OutDatWay), Thursday, 26 January 2006 21:34 (nineteen years ago)

Okay, Sarah (and pretty much everyone), munki munki has FINALLY gotten their new website together and they're selling pre-made flannel PJs in a print you're bound to love:

http://www.munkimunki.com/products/flannel-pjs.html

Laurel (Laurel), Thursday, 26 January 2006 22:00 (nineteen years ago)

OMG gnomes or dogs, dogs or gnomes. Those are cuuuuuute.

The Milkmaid (of human kindness) (The Milkmaid), Thursday, 26 January 2006 22:04 (nineteen years ago)

OMG: O dose mongrell, oh holler gnomes, O dog mo'.

jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 26 January 2006 22:07 (nineteen years ago)

Am God's e-mongrel Lohan, a holler gnome's dogma.

jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 26 January 2006 22:14 (nineteen years ago)

but are they really worth $80?

otto midnight (otto midnight), Thursday, 26 January 2006 22:16 (nineteen years ago)

They are not worth $80.

The Milkmaid (of human kindness) (The Milkmaid), Thursday, 26 January 2006 22:18 (nineteen years ago)

I say you could buy their yardage and make your own PJs, but even the fabric alone is pricey.

Laurel (Laurel), Thursday, 26 January 2006 22:23 (nineteen years ago)

if i had to make my own jammers, i would be wearing a sarong.

The Milkmaid (of human kindness) (The Milkmaid), Thursday, 26 January 2006 22:26 (nineteen years ago)

Mama can't sew. At all.

The Milkmaid (of human kindness) (The Milkmaid), Thursday, 26 January 2006 22:32 (nineteen years ago)

John, what's the deal with the French blog? Also, what do you think of Skeletons and the Girl-Faced Boys?

n/a (Nick A.), Thursday, 26 January 2006 22:40 (nineteen years ago)

I don't know what the deal is with the French blog! Matt found it while looking for Canasta mentions. I don't know what it says, since I don't speak French. Perhaps Sarah can translate.

I like the SATGFB a lot, actually. I've listened to it a few times so far. And funny you bring it up, because I just put on the Xiu Xiu for the first time just now.

jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 26 January 2006 22:50 (nineteen years ago)

Here's my shot at a rough translation:

Le premier s’appelle Canasta et n’est pas signé. De la pop finement ciselée qui devrait plaire à David. Je vous conseille les titres suivants : Slow Down Chicago et Major Tom Coming Home. Ceux-ci sont écoutables là.

The first group is called Canasta and they aren't signed. Finely engraved pop that David would like. I recommend the songs: Slow Down Chicago and Major Tom Coming Home. You can listen to them here.

Allez, un petit dernier pour la route. The Fake Fictions. Toujours de Chicago. C’est un trio de lo-fi garage pop. Pour écouter c’est ici. J’aime beaucoup leur Lasso The Moon.

Here's another one for the road. The Fake Fictions. Also from Chicago. They are a lo-fi garage pop trio. To listen, go here. I like "Lasso the Moon" a lot.

(Note: these are attempts at translations of meaning, not literal translations. But I'm not sure about the 2nd sentence of the Canasta review, Babelfish did most of that and I cleaned it up a little.)

n/a (Nick A.), Thursday, 26 January 2006 23:02 (nineteen years ago)

Good morning. I played on EL RADIO this morning and thus got to work earlier than I have in weeks. I don't think I've played music before 8 am since high school jazz band rehearsals.

Jordan (Jordan), Friday, 27 January 2006 14:51 (nineteen years ago)

Have you guys ever heard of a "bobby brown"? I just ate part of one, apparently. It's a giant styrofoam container full of the following ingredients: potatoes, cheese, onions, green peppers, bacon bits. I'll tell you what. It was gooooood.

The Milkmaid (of human kindness) (The Milkmaid), Friday, 27 January 2006 15:45 (nineteen years ago)

Was it goood enough, goood enough, baby?

Jordan (Jordan), Friday, 27 January 2006 15:47 (nineteen years ago)

You should have said "My perogative: It's gooooood!"

Df'nM (OutDatWay), Friday, 27 January 2006 16:01 (nineteen years ago)

Is "perogative" even a word? I must not have it spelled right.

Df'nM (OutDatWay), Friday, 27 January 2006 16:02 (nineteen years ago)

After eating it, I sang "Well I guess I'm gonna have to make my own (whooooaaaahhhhh) Gotta gotta make my own, gotta gotta make my own"

It's prerogative.

The Milkmaid (of human kindness) (The Milkmaid), Friday, 27 January 2006 16:03 (nineteen years ago)

And it's real.

The Milkmaid (of human kindness) (The Milkmaid), Friday, 27 January 2006 16:03 (nineteen years ago)

pierogi-tive

Jordan (Jordan), Friday, 27 January 2006 16:04 (nineteen years ago)

Goddamn, I love pierogies. That's the cutest word I think I've ever seen.

It's My Pierogitive: The Amanda Story.

The Milkmaid (of human kindness) (The Milkmaid), Friday, 27 January 2006 16:06 (nineteen years ago)

Yeah I kept getting perogi from the Dashboard dictionary.

Df'nM (OutDatWay), Friday, 27 January 2006 16:07 (nineteen years ago)

(or however it's spelled)

Df'nM (OutDatWay), Friday, 27 January 2006 16:07 (nineteen years ago)

I don't think there's anywhere to get pierogies around here. There was a Russian dumpling place, but it closed. :(

Jordan (Jordan), Friday, 27 January 2006 16:10 (nineteen years ago)

Trader Joe's makes the best frozen ones I've ever had, you could try theirs?

The Milkmaid (of human kindness) (The Milkmaid), Friday, 27 January 2006 16:14 (nineteen years ago)

There's, uh, not a Trader Joe's here. They're building one, though. So I'll let you know in couple of years.

Jordan (Jordan), Friday, 27 January 2006 16:21 (nineteen years ago)

Aw man, that's too bad. I wish they had more stores. Someday, though. Someday you will know. Get the pierogies.

The Milkmaid (of human kindness) (The Milkmaid), Friday, 27 January 2006 16:23 (nineteen years ago)

I don't think I've ever had good pierogies. I'm waiting for the day when I change my mind about them.
Jordan, what about that expensive store next to Marshall Field's, the one open 24 hours? I almost convinced A's mom to get a turducken there. I was wondering about that dumpling place! We tried to eat there but there was no sign of life so we went to the tasty Turkish place (Hazma's?) instead. I highly recommend the chicken-stuffed squash.

jocelyn (Jocelyn), Friday, 27 January 2006 16:25 (nineteen years ago)

It doesn't take years to build stores, Jordan.

gbx (skowly), Friday, 27 January 2006 16:36 (nineteen years ago)

It does when the lot/building has been vacant for five years and they have to go through lots of zoning & neighborhood association hoops.

Jordan (Jordan), Friday, 27 January 2006 16:48 (nineteen years ago)

Is there anything going on tonight? I'm wrestling with the possibility of staying in and playing Call of Duty 2 all night. Please help!

Df'nM (OutDatWay), Friday, 27 January 2006 17:05 (nineteen years ago)

I'm going to a COMMANDO-watching party. Not in Chicago though.

jocelyn (Jocelyn), Friday, 27 January 2006 17:07 (nineteen years ago)

Jocelyn's gonna watch movies with no undiepants on?

The Milkmaid (of human kindness) (The Milkmaid), Friday, 27 January 2006 17:07 (nineteen years ago)

I have no plans. I wish I had video games, though.

gbx (skowly), Friday, 27 January 2006 17:08 (nineteen years ago)

I'm staying in and preparing my very full brain for my final comprehensive exam tomorrow. I studied my heart out last night and am now able to list the +/- values for all of the distinctive features, the rules for narrow transcription (in English), the parts of the IPA I need to know (English sounds) thereby boring 99.9% of people to death. Also tons of syntax. I think I might pass out.

The Milkmaid (of human kindness) (The Milkmaid), Friday, 27 January 2006 17:13 (nineteen years ago)

Mmmmmm... IPA

Df'nM (OutDatWay), Friday, 27 January 2006 17:15 (nineteen years ago)

Also this is for tomorrow if anyone is still interested:

http://static.flickr.com/22/91820428_b36415a76e.jpg

Df'nM (OutDatWay), Friday, 27 January 2006 17:15 (nineteen years ago)

You need to break down an India Pale Ale for your exam?

xpost, my joke has scooped

Jordan (Jordan), Friday, 27 January 2006 17:16 (nineteen years ago)

I will be breaking down several IPAs in my stomach after the test is over. Tomorrow is karaoke night, if anyone has managed to forget.

The Milkmaid (of human kindness) (The Milkmaid), Friday, 27 January 2006 17:17 (nineteen years ago)

This weekend is going to be crazy. The big gig is tonight, and then tomorrow I've got a friend's wedding, a post-wedding hang, a friend's band playing downtown, Fiest playing downtown, and I don't know what. And then bottling our first brew on Sunday!

Jordan (Jordan), Friday, 27 January 2006 17:18 (nineteen years ago)

Hey, guys. How's EVERYTHING? I am surviving work, but suddenly I'm feeling really exhausted and itchy-eyed.

Have any of you ever been to Le Passage to hear djs? (John? Djdee?) I think Samantha Ronson is djing tonight, not that I have any clue who she is.

Anyways, this is MY weekend, so I gots to make it RULE.

Sarah Kittensmew McLusky (coco), Friday, 27 January 2006 17:41 (nineteen years ago)

After several weeks of mad, mad wkends and too-busy eves, I think tonight is for movies + vodka penne from down the road. Maybe a little mud facial sort of business. Anyone want to come over & paint your nails?

Laurel (Laurel), Friday, 27 January 2006 17:41 (nineteen years ago)

Man, that sounds like fun. Can we also tell secrets?

The Milkmaid (of human kindness) (The Milkmaid), Friday, 27 January 2006 17:43 (nineteen years ago)

Uh, what ELSE would we be talking about? Besides, like, the fact that coats for spring are totally vintage and I think I'll get one in yellow -- what about you? Also, my plantar fascitis is killing me today.

Laurel (Laurel), Friday, 27 January 2006 17:46 (nineteen years ago)

Last night, I warned Nick that my weekend might start out kind of slow because I've been sick and just went back to work today. His response? I've been cooped up in the house all week! COME ON!

More questions!

Would anyone be up for seeing Squid & the Whale tonight? Super late? (I think it's at 10:40 at Pipers)? If not, want to see something different?

Sarah Kittensmew McLusky (coco), Friday, 27 January 2006 17:48 (nineteen years ago)

I'm having pizza for lunch today, and I might have it again for pizza tonight.

Jordan (Jordan), Friday, 27 January 2006 18:31 (nineteen years ago)

I miss pizza.

Jeff. (Jeff), Friday, 27 January 2006 18:43 (nineteen years ago)

Pizza the meal or the food? I've never been big on pizza (the meal.)

The Milkmaid (of human kindness) (The Milkmaid), Friday, 27 January 2006 18:45 (nineteen years ago)

The meal.

How can you not be big on pizza the meal? You coined pizza the meal!

Jordan (Jordan), Friday, 27 January 2006 19:08 (nineteen years ago)

I know, but I don't really eat it very much. Like once a year, maybe. I don't go out boozing (like seriously boozing, not like "out for a few beers") but once in a blue moon.

The Milkmaid (of human kindness) (The Milkmaid), Friday, 27 January 2006 19:12 (nineteen years ago)

Oh, even a few beers/drinks is enough to trigger my craving for pizza (the meal) -- pretty much , if I start with teh bouze, I will end with the savory protein.

Laurel (Laurel), Friday, 27 January 2006 19:15 (nineteen years ago)

Heh, a few beers are enough of an excuse for me to go out for pizza. And if there's a gig involved, it's usually late enough where I'm hungry anyway.

Jeff, are you still on the healthy foodless diet?

xpost

Jordan (Jordan), Friday, 27 January 2006 19:15 (nineteen years ago)

Short films and good music tonight, if anyone wants to join:
Fri. Jan. 27 - 8PM
SOUND & VISION
a monthly night of film/video
and performance hosted by Hank Henry.
South Union Arts
1352 S. Union

Films/Videos:
Meg Vinson '386'
Martin Arnold 'Life Wastes Andy Hardy'
Taran Allen 'Maple Joe'
Paper Rad 'Bubble Puppy'
Angela Mathews 'Transience'
Brian Hank Henry 'Slide One'
Steve Lyon 'Winnebago Man'
Matt McCormick 'The Vyrotonin Decision'
Justin Reid Tvedt 'Why Is My Sleeping Bag a Ghetto Muppet?" Chin Up Chin Up Music Video

Performances:
Cellmates
Shelly Short (and co)

(P.S. Nice photo of Shelley - and my apartment - in Chicago mag this month.)

Eazy (Eazy), Friday, 27 January 2006 19:18 (nineteen years ago)

Oh, and Sarah - I've been to early-evening parties at Le Passage - the main crowd is definitely Rush Street models/Prada crowd, but that can be fun in a Bryan Ferry way. There may be a dancing outing near you tomorrow night - if you want to go, I can tell ya more...

Eazy (Eazy), Friday, 27 January 2006 19:27 (nineteen years ago)

Email me, Eazy!

Oh, and kelsey! that sounds like great fun! A little vacation in between jobs is the best.

Sarah Kittensmew McLusky (coco), Friday, 27 January 2006 19:30 (nineteen years ago)

Yeah, I try to stay away from pizza, it's hard to calculate points for. We order one maybe once every 2 or 3 months.

My drunken indulgence food is burritos from the joint at Laurence and Clark.

Jeff. (Jeff), Friday, 27 January 2006 19:59 (nineteen years ago)

And as you know, I'm off the burritos for a while.

Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Friday, 27 January 2006 20:08 (nineteen years ago)

In fact, don't even *say* "burrito" to me for about a month.

Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Friday, 27 January 2006 20:16 (nineteen years ago)

Today my work is teaching me about the wonders of fiberglass! Here's a fun fact: it's toxic, non-biodegradable, and illegal to landfill. Basically, there's no way to throw it away! Isn't that charming?

Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Friday, 27 January 2006 20:18 (nineteen years ago)

I did my work whilst chicken burritoing at Chipotle for lunch.

Eazy (Eazy), Friday, 27 January 2006 20:18 (nineteen years ago)

What is fiberglass, anyway? Is that the pink stuff that insulation is made of?

The Milkmaid (of human kindness) (The Milkmaid), Friday, 27 January 2006 20:21 (nineteen years ago)

Yep. But it can also be hard stuff that you can make car bumpers and boat hulls and all kinds of shit out of.

Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Friday, 27 January 2006 20:24 (nineteen years ago)

It's also what most itching powder is made of.

Jeff. (Jeff), Friday, 27 January 2006 20:28 (nineteen years ago)

Oh right, that stuff. What is it, for reals? Is it made of glass? Does that mean that it's made of sand? What's itching powder?

Hey, not that anyone cares, but karaoke night might be rescheduled. :(

The Milkmaid (of human kindness) (The Milkmaid), Friday, 27 January 2006 20:29 (nineteen years ago)

Without the wonders of fiberglass, we wouldn't have see-through drums!

http://www.vintagedrum.com/museum/images/fif001k.jpg

Jordan (Jordan), Friday, 27 January 2006 20:29 (nineteen years ago)

Ooooh Vistalites... my High School had a kit almost exactly like that one.

Df'nM (OutDatWay), Friday, 27 January 2006 20:34 (nineteen years ago)

I always carry a bag of itching powder, along with my caltrops and smoke bombs.

Jordan (Jordan), Friday, 27 January 2006 20:34 (nineteen years ago)

On one hand I dream of owning Vistalites (they sound great), but on the other I'm kind of shy.

Jordan (Jordan), Friday, 27 January 2006 20:35 (nineteen years ago)

Yeah, it's glass, glass spun out into tiny fibers. In the case of insulation and that "angel hair" holiday decoration stuff, it's guaranteed to break up when handled and leave you with hundreds of tiny glass shards splintered under yr epidermis.

Laurel (Laurel), Friday, 27 January 2006 20:43 (nineteen years ago)

Man, that kit is GORGEOUS.

Laurel (Laurel), Friday, 27 January 2006 20:44 (nineteen years ago)

Pretty drums!

Also, karaoke night is BACK ON.

The Milkmaid (of human kindness) (The Milkmaid), Friday, 27 January 2006 20:47 (nineteen years ago)

Pretty drums, but that looks like plexiglass to me. Or some other dense, clear polymer.

mmmm... polymers.

Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Friday, 27 January 2006 20:51 (nineteen years ago)

ihttp://www.vistalites.com/documents/cat_76_3.jpg

Jordan (Jordan), Friday, 27 January 2006 20:55 (nineteen years ago)

Yeah, they're acrylic.

xpost

Df'nM (OutDatWay), Friday, 27 January 2006 20:56 (nineteen years ago)

I want a spicy polymer burrito right now.

truck-patch pixel farmer (my crop froze in the field) (Rock Hardy), Friday, 27 January 2006 20:56 (nineteen years ago)

ihttp://www.vistalites.com/legends/karen3.JPG

Jordan (Jordan), Friday, 27 January 2006 20:58 (nineteen years ago)

I'm getting sick. Wah. Otherwise, I'd be TOTALLY up for seeing that movie tonight, Sarah. I've been dying to see it. I know I'll be passed out by 9:30 though. I can just tell.
That said, call me tomorrow, Amanda. Maybe I'll be good enough for singing. Or tagging along.

R. Kelsey (kelstarry), Friday, 27 January 2006 21:34 (nineteen years ago)

I missed the karaoke details, catch me up?

Jeff. (Jeff), Friday, 27 January 2006 21:47 (nineteen years ago)

Maybe we can see it together later, Kelsey.

If anyone decides on kareoke, cell me.

Nick thinks he knows, but he has no idea. This is the diary of the Weekend of Sarah.

Sarah Kittensmew McLusky (coco), Friday, 27 January 2006 21:48 (nineteen years ago)

hi. i am in the u of mn law school. i ran into leaf in a coffee shop and then persuaded him to let me use his computer. (not just to post on ilx, i had to send an e-mail that i forgot to send this morning.) anyway: haha! wish me well at my show tonite!

jaymc in minnesota, Friday, 27 January 2006 22:52 (nineteen years ago)

ha!

R. Kelsey (kelstarry), Friday, 27 January 2006 23:06 (nineteen years ago)

Was anyone from here planning to go see Low & His Name Is Alive tonight?

Casuistry (Chris P), Saturday, 28 January 2006 00:48 (nineteen years ago)

DRUNK.

And it's only 8pm!

gbx (skowly), Saturday, 28 January 2006 01:59 (nineteen years ago)

I am alone.

gbx (skowly), Saturday, 28 January 2006 03:02 (nineteen years ago)

I think Sarah's Friday beat my Friday. Her boss gave us his season tickets to the Bulls game, and they were awesome seats, in the ninth row of the first level. Even better, they were playing the Wizards, who were "my team" at the time that I was most in to basketball (late high school). Neither team really seemed that hot last night but the Bulls were entertaining; they seem almost like a college team, really young and energetic and spastic (lots of turnovers). Bulls won.

n/a (Nick A.), Saturday, 28 January 2006 15:30 (nineteen years ago)

Nice, Nick.

This South Union Arts place turned out to be really neat - a church that's been converted into an arts space but without renovation (so there's still a bapitsmal pool above the pulpit and a substantial neon cross above that) - the short films were either funny or engaging (more consistent than usual for this kind of thing) and the acoustics were good for the quiet bands playing...and between a band and a block of shorts, I wandered over toward Maxwell Street and got a Polish (bad, but grilled onions are always delicious) and perused several card tables of bootleg DVDs set up on the sidewalk.

Eazy (Eazy), Saturday, 28 January 2006 15:52 (nineteen years ago)

Today's spam: "Double Your Penis Size". Double!

Eazy (Eazy), Saturday, 28 January 2006 16:05 (nineteen years ago)

That's cool, Nick. I am not a sporty guy but I think I would enjoy a free Bulls game. I picked them 100% of the time in NBA Jam for Sega Genesis.

The show last night was really cool. I didn't get any official headcount, but we definitely broke the 400 people mark which = not losing money on the show. There was a table with a bunch of Macs with mailing lists setup for each band a photo slideshow on one on those cinema screens. Then we played an afterset until about 2:15. I didn't have anything for pizza. :(

So tired now. We have to go to a wedding in an hour and a half and I still have to wake Maddie up, do laundry, etc.

Jordan (Jordan), Saturday, 28 January 2006 16:29 (nineteen years ago)

Some person at my firm keeps posting 95$ tickets in that same general area. I hope no one buys them. cut us a deal!

Jeff. (Jeff), Saturday, 28 January 2006 17:42 (nineteen years ago)

I just looked at the comps in the face, slapped it hard and killed it dead. I am a comps killa.

Tonight: my school friends and I are aiming to gather at the Hidden Cove around 8pm, so that's the deal. I may or may not sing 'Rhythm of the Night'.

The Milkmaid (of human kindness) (The Milkmaid), Saturday, 28 January 2006 18:47 (nineteen years ago)

MUDQUEENS.COM


???

gbx (skowly), Saturday, 28 January 2006 21:29 (nineteen years ago)

Anyone going to that PLZN thing?

gbx (skowly), Sunday, 29 January 2006 01:14 (nineteen years ago)

woah, i drank.

Jeff. (Jeff), Sunday, 29 January 2006 07:58 (nineteen years ago)

ME TOO

gbx (skowly), Sunday, 29 January 2006 09:01 (nineteen years ago)

I drank nothing. Except cola. I feel left out.

Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Sunday, 29 January 2006 09:05 (nineteen years ago)

Likelihood that I will be visiting Chicago at some point in, let's say, late February or early March: High.

If people are going on tour around then and I will miss them, let me know now! Because FFS I am all into meeting you lot.

Casuistry (Chris P), Sunday, 29 January 2006 11:50 (nineteen years ago)

I saw Bubble.

Jeff. (Jeff), Sunday, 29 January 2006 18:32 (nineteen years ago)

I saw Dan's band (good!) and some hardcore band (also good!).

gbx (skowly), Sunday, 29 January 2006 18:34 (nineteen years ago)

I also saw Bubble and drank, in that order.

n/a (Nick A.), Sunday, 29 January 2006 18:47 (nineteen years ago)

Mid 90s alternative rock revival.

Jeff. (Jeff), Sunday, 29 January 2006 21:07 (nineteen years ago)

Yes. Jeff is referring to the jukebox selections at the bar we went to. LOTS of Pearl Jam. Rusted Root. I decided that in hindsight, Stone Temple Pilots were a better band than Pearl Jam.

Bubble was good, by the way. Very naturalistic acting/dialogue. Very short. High-quality digital photography, crisp with saturated colors. Cool doll factory footage. I even liked the Bob Pollard music, it was tasteful. Recommended.

n/a (Nick A.), Monday, 30 January 2006 00:05 (nineteen years ago)

Should I get it on DVD tonight?

gbx (skowly), Monday, 30 January 2006 00:08 (nineteen years ago)

yes.

Jeff. (Jeff), Monday, 30 January 2006 00:52 (nineteen years ago)

I had probably one of my top ten hangovers of all time today. Last night: Irish pub in downtown Mpls, with several pints of Finnegan's, then onward to a charming karaoke dive called the Otter. I sang Lindsay Lohan's "First" and drank unknown beer from pitchers. I also stole an abandoned pack of cigarettes from the table, and no one said anything when I lit up inside, despite the citywide ban. I chatted with Eric H., who's a really nice guy, and then my friend Meg drove me back to the hotel, where I proceeded to feel very dizzy and puked in the bathroom. Everything today -- mostly just driving home -- was done very gingerly.

If anyone has tried to call me today, I apologize: my cellphone died, and I still don't have my charger...

jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 30 January 2006 01:45 (nineteen years ago)

I trust everyone had a pleasant weekend? I sang 4 songs at the HC. 4!

The Milkmaid (of human kindness) (The Milkmaid), Monday, 30 January 2006 14:26 (nineteen years ago)

I put away a bottle of wine on Friday night and watched "The Graduate", which I had somehow (???) missed before. Rest of wkend was quieter than expected, enlivened only by fixing flat bike tire Sunday morning and hiking to hardware store to buy a wrench when rear wheel loosened (how? I have no idea) and pulled out of drop-outs WHILE I was tootling to brunch. BAH.

Laurel (Laurel), Monday, 30 January 2006 14:37 (nineteen years ago)

What songs did you sing, Amanda? Who else was there?

jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 30 January 2006 14:40 (nineteen years ago)

I went to a party where we watched Commando and talked about mongooses, and then on Saturday ate Thai food and watched Maria Full of Grace and played video games until 3 am and all three nights drunk people were shouting stuff outside of Adrian's window, which makes me very glad that we are moving to a different complex in 4 months. This week I will be a nervous wreck as I wait for my Nursing School application to be accepted (I'm pretty confident) but now I have to see about (un) funding.

jocelyn (Jocelyn), Monday, 30 January 2006 14:40 (nineteen years ago)

I sang (in order)
1. "Still the Same" - Bob Seger
2. "Take Me Home, Country Roads" - duet with Jill, I harmonized! Not a hit with the patrons, but it was fun for us.
3. "Don't You Want Me" - Human League (a duet with myself, I sang both parts)
4. "Don't Go Breakin My Heart" - another duet with Jill, but sorta boring since it's the same words over and over.

She sang "Against All Odds" and it was great. Aside from the school friends, no one else showed up. There were about 5-6 of us, maybe? It was a good time. There will be a next time, for sure, when we find out that we passed. (I hope I passed!!)

The Milkmaid (of human kindness) (The Milkmaid), Monday, 30 January 2006 14:49 (nineteen years ago)

That sounds like fun, Amanda.

I had a very good weekend! It ended with lounging around on the couch, eating black beans & rice and chips & salsa (my favorite meal pretty much) while watching weird Talking Heads videos.

Casu, We should be around then. We have an official meeting with our wee label Tuesday night, which will include discussing a release date. We plan to wait until the cd comes out to tour at all. But first we have to decide on some things like, uh, album art. By the way, has anyone ever told you that you look like a guy from the Talking Heads?

Sarah Kittensmew McLusky (coco), Monday, 30 January 2006 15:00 (nineteen years ago)

I was pretty much ill all weekend. I watched a lot of Six Feet Under which makes me feel all in my head & horny as hell. I don't know what it is about that show . . . perhaps all the sex & loss . . . that makes me want to have a lot of it myself.

R. Kelsey (kelstarry), Monday, 30 January 2006 15:02 (nineteen years ago)

Hey gang --

Friday night: Went to Critical Mass ride solo mio, put away 3 tall boys in the process and was totally housed by 8.30pm. Went to my friend's apartment for "Game Night," wasn't feeling it, went to Clipper to meet friend for exactly one beer and then went home and to bed.

Sat -- scouted the third stage of the Tour with buddies, did it wrong, and enjoyed the sights and sounds of Chicago's beautiful West Side. Biked in the rain down to Pilsen for Dan's loft party, went to Skylark, and went to bed at 3am. Funtimes!

Sun -- Woke up at 7.45, dragged ass up to the starting line, and rode in the Tour Da Chicago. It was really, really wet, and I was really pooped at the end. Went home and watched HBO for the rest of the day.

gbx (skowly), Monday, 30 January 2006 15:08 (nineteen years ago)

(I just made the exact one-thousandth post on this thread. GIMME A PRIZE!)

gbx (skowly), Monday, 30 January 2006 15:09 (nineteen years ago)

You deserve a prize for getting up at 7:45 after going to bed at 3. I would not be able to do that.

The Milkmaid (of human kindness) (The Milkmaid), Monday, 30 January 2006 15:11 (nineteen years ago)

There's a radio opportunity in Shanghai that I'm qualified for . . . I think I'm going to apply for it.

R. Kelsey (kelstarry), Monday, 30 January 2006 15:19 (nineteen years ago)

Do it do it do it!!! How cool would THAT be?

Laurel (Laurel), Monday, 30 January 2006 15:21 (nineteen years ago)

That's almost exactly what I was going to say!! Do it do it do it!

The Milkmaid (of human kindness) (The Milkmaid), Monday, 30 January 2006 15:23 (nineteen years ago)

O Manda, I wish they burned a CD of you doing 'Still the Same - that's the best song about gambling ever.

Eazy (Eazy), Monday, 30 January 2006 15:31 (nineteen years ago)

Meanwhile, on the home front, one housemate got the new Gossip CD for her birthday on Saturday night, and it is threatening to replace The Modern Lovers as the only CD needed in the living room for all occasions. I hope it holds up for a few more weeks.

Eazy (Eazy), Monday, 30 January 2006 15:34 (nineteen years ago)

haha Eazy - I'm not sure my warbling should ever be immortalized on CD, but damn right I'll sing it again. There were only like 3 people in there at the time (aside from our group) and the guy was like "Are you sure this is the song you want?" I assured him that it was. Man, I love that place.

The Milkmaid (of human kindness) (The Milkmaid), Monday, 30 January 2006 15:39 (nineteen years ago)

Oh MAN I heart the Modern Lovers.

gbx (skowly), Monday, 30 January 2006 15:49 (nineteen years ago)

p.s. EZ: lunch is good any day this week.

R. Kelsey (kelstarry), Monday, 30 January 2006 15:50 (nineteen years ago)

went to Skylark, and went to bed at 3am. Funtimes!

I was at Skylark on Thursday night with my bandmate Megan. I had four beers, which didn't bode well for driving, so I went back to Megan's place to sober up. Unfortunately, pretty soon after I got there, her boyfriend broke out the weeeeed -- which mostly just made me sleepy, and I crashed on their couch for the night. Then I drove home at 7:30 am to pack for the trip.

I slept in four different beds this weekend: Megan and Todd's couch on Thursday, Caitlin's couch in Minneapolis on Friday, the hotel on Saturday, and then my own again last night.

jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 30 January 2006 16:03 (nineteen years ago)

Hey K., feeling spontaneous re: lunch?

Eazy (Eazy), Monday, 30 January 2006 16:10 (nineteen years ago)

I totally forgot to tell you guys: I found out that my professor from last semester, who I was not terribly fond of, is dating this guy:
http://peterssaturdaychild.tripod.com/sitebuildercontent/sitebuilderpictures/peter4.jpg

That's right.

The Milkmaid (of human kindness) (The Milkmaid), Monday, 30 January 2006 16:16 (nineteen years ago)

Who dat?

jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 30 January 2006 16:17 (nineteen years ago)

Maybe this helps?

The Milkmaid (of human kindness) (The Milkmaid), Monday, 30 January 2006 16:18 (nineteen years ago)

EZ . . . as in TODAY?! Email me, duder.

R. Kelsey (kelstarry), Monday, 30 January 2006 16:19 (nineteen years ago)

http://maryf452001.com/sitebuilder/images/Peter_Tork_4-230x340.png

Eazy (Eazy), Monday, 30 January 2006 16:20 (nineteen years ago)

Ah! I thought maybe that's who it was ... that's insane.

jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 30 January 2006 16:22 (nineteen years ago)

Yeah, I guess he was in Chicago visiting her and one of my school friends is a TA, so she was there when my prof was introducing him to everyone and showing him off. Know how they met? She wrote him a fan letter.

The Milkmaid (of human kindness) (The Milkmaid), Monday, 30 January 2006 16:24 (nineteen years ago)

Is that one of the Monkees?

Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Monday, 30 January 2006 16:33 (nineteen years ago)

Yes! She's a crazed Monkees superfan, apparently!

The Milkmaid (of human kindness) (The Milkmaid), Monday, 30 January 2006 16:35 (nineteen years ago)

the fan letter shouldn't be under-rated. that's how ir4 gl4ss met his now wife.

R. Kelsey (kelstarry), Monday, 30 January 2006 16:37 (nineteen years ago)

are you serious?

The Milkmaid (of human kindness) (The Milkmaid), Monday, 30 January 2006 16:38 (nineteen years ago)

That's like a secret admirer note actually working.

The Milkmaid (of human kindness) (The Milkmaid), Monday, 30 January 2006 16:39 (nineteen years ago)

Ir4 was a fan of An4h33d's restaurant reviews?

jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 30 January 2006 16:54 (nineteen years ago)

A gal I know lived with a former New Yorker fiction editor for several years after doing a similar thing.

Eazy (Eazy), Monday, 30 January 2006 16:56 (nineteen years ago)

New thread:

Chicago: On The Corner

Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Monday, 30 January 2006 16:59 (nineteen years ago)


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