The _Beverly Hills 90210_ thread

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The importance? The graffiti-laden bathroom you see is the women's restroom for...KUCI. It was done back in late 1992 or so, specifically for this album cover.

For the first couple of years the show was called "L.A. Beat" in Finland, I think because the Finnish distributor feared that Finnish kids wouldn't understand what the title refers to.

And I remember there's was a minor scandal when it was found out that the actor who played her was 30 or something in real life.

As opposed to Luke Perry, the oldest "teenager" not in the cast of Grease?

I don't want to jinx myself.

Uh, you were in BH90210!

She was in a semi-recent episode of Law And Order too - playing a messed up drug dealer.

Carteris was also in the first season of The Surreal Life

Lindsay Price turned up in a couple episodes of Kitchen Confidential

I still don't understand how the cowboy hat he was wont to wear didn't protect him.

And you realize he died so that his best friend David could join the Cool Kids, right?

yeah, but that was when Dylan became intolerable, too! and Kelly was always intolerable.

I was just thinking about that the other day. The most WTF? moment I'd seen on commercial television in a long time.

-- DONNA MARTIN GRADUATES!! DONNA MARTIN GRADUATES!! DONNA MARTIN GRADUATES!! DONNA MARTIN GRADUATES!! DONNA MARTIN GRADUATES!!

-- Brenda ripping into Dylan and Kelly on the street when she found out they'd been seeing each other during the summer. This might have been Brenda's finest moment (the ep when she snuck away to Baja with Dylan is right up there) but it was also one of her last scenes that was decent in any way.

-- Dylan giving David the straight talk on drugs and helping him flush his stash down the toilet.

Remember the episode in which Dylan, curled into a ball on the couch, remembered his father playing with him on the beach? REM's "You Are the Everything" was on the soundtrack.

Mr. Walsh was Mr. Hogan of "The Hogan Family"!

1. BAG getting hooked on speed or meth or whatever and zooming through his college radio show
2. The “racism is bad” episode, post L.A. riots
3. Jason P’s descent into alcoholism and exit from the show (what happened there plotwise? I had stopped watching by the time this went down – once they got to college and Brenda left it got boring boring boring)
4. Gabby having an affair with a heartless married dude that was discovered by sensitive Luke Perry
5. the episodes that spun off into Melrose Place
6. Perry’s dad’s (grizzled vet from Days) boat blowing up real good
7. The episodes where Dylan rescues his sister from a kidnapping so convoluted I can’t recall teh details now

Nope, that was Dylan's dad (also a Days of Our Lives regular, as Raymond noted).

Another daytime soap connection: Kelly's dad was played by the actor that played C.C. Capwell on "Santa Barbara".

He's also Roman Brady on Days Of Our Lives, which my wife shamefully watches.

In the fall of 1999, I started watching re-runs of 90210 on FX every night from 5-7 when I was getting home and making dinner and such. This was the last year that actual new episodes were on the air, so I ended up watching the entire ten year run of the show (reruns on FX, new epidoses on Fox) in about 9 months. It was pretty intense, and I've not watched it or even thought much about it since then.

There was a time though when I was really drunk and trying to make up rap lyrics about 90210 - the only bit I remember was "getting lost like the Martian lander / cheating on the big test like Steve Sanders".

And what is Jamie Walters doing RIGHT NOW?

There was a time though when I was really drunk and trying to make up rap lyrics about 90210 - the only bit I remember was "getting lost like the Martian lander / cheating on the big test like Steve Sanders".

And what is Jamie Walters doing RIGHT NOW?

Brandon got a journalist job in NYC after much Kelly angst.

... to some guy hasseling Scott (cowboy-hat-suicide-guy), probably was BH90210's finest moment. This sentence at least flames on, not only in my world.
And Super Cub OTM. You *knew* this show was wrong, but *knew* it was grebt at the same time.

It scares me that I could literally go on about this show all day

I mean, FFS, I was well old enough to know better but still remember getting into fake spats about whether Dylan or Brandon was hotter.

My former housemate in NYC was also hooked - but, as she pointed out "It's only really good when someone has a really awful addiction" which was, like, every other week.

What happenned with Kelly's mum and David's dad? And whose mum was having the affair, was that Donna?

I was pissed off when Dyl first started up with Kel but then I came to have a sick enjoyment of her worrying little rodenty fussing.

The Walshes agree to let their maid's extremely intelligent "niece," Carla, use their address to enroll at West Beverly. Brandon falls hard for her, but doesn't understand why everyone seems opposed to their relationship. Carla reveals that she witnessed a drive-by shooting that claimed the life of a four-year-old; she had moved in with Anna while waiting to testify, with protection from the D.A. Carla returns to her family after one of the killers confesses. Jim and Cindy organize a soiree for his new client, a sportswear designer. Dylan, Steve and the girls receive free clothing. David wants MC Hammer to perform at the school dance.
Music: "Let's Go Deeper" by MC Hammer; "Finger Poppin' Time" by Hank Ballard and the Midnighters (#7, 1960); "Deep Down" by Debbie Gibson

wish I saw or remember this one:

. Stand (Up) and Deliver (edit)
Community Score
7.5 Good
First aired: 3/7/1991 Production Code: 2190016

Andrea persuades Brandon to run for class president. Kelly seizes control of the campaign and encourages Brandon to capitalize on his looks and image. She even agrees to a date with David in exchange for his help producing a campaign video. Brandon decides that he isn't the best man for the job after talking with his bright and dedicated opponent. Brenda, feeling neglected by family and friends, begins hanging out at a coffeehouse. Sky, a performance artist, convinces Brenda to drop out of high school and get her GED so that she can "experience life." Brenda moves out of the Walsh house to apartment-sit for Sky. She learns that life as an artist is not as romantic as it seems, as Sky's utilities are turned off and her furniture is repossessed. Music: "Hippychick" by Soho

man they actually played heaps of good music on this series at first!
(episode guide)

I think you just did. If memory serves, the professor's wife was played by Dina Meyer.

What other strange bands played at the Peach Pit? I can only remember the Flaming Lips, The Corrs, and Color Me Badd.

37. U4EA (edit)
Community Score
8.2 Great
First aired: 11/14/1991 Production Code: 2191036

Emily invites everyone to join her at an underground club. The location is a secret; the gang must exchange an egg at a convenience store for this information. The others leave without Steve and Andrea, who end up going to the wrong store and embarrassing themselves. Kelly is mortified when David drinks an entire bottle of whiskey, but Donna dances with him and has a good time. Emily slips a drug called U4EA into Brandon's drink to get him to loosen up. He is too wasted to drive, and vandals trash his car when he leaves it at the club overnight. Brandon does not expose Emily's deed to his parents, but breaks up with her because he no longer trusts her. Music: "Hold on to Love" by T'Pau

remember the debut of Powerman 5000 when David was a video direction and Donna was a dancer in the sexxxy video...david got all jealous....

Yeah, it was Donna's mom. David's dad couldn't keep his pants zipped up (choice line, "I have trouble/problems with monogamy") which led to their breakup a couple of years after baby Erin was born.

things i remember:

wondering why these rich kids all had such boring middle class suburban surnames

wondering how they could do a whole episode based around brenda smoking but dylan was high on smack and driving off cliffs in a vintage porsche every other minute.

the college years episode where donna finds out andrea is pregnant and andrea says 'look donna, it was fun being virgins together but im not like that anymore'. so much fun!

hating that stupid hand-fist smacky smack thing the guys did when they greeted each other because i just knew they were doing that off camera too.

davids hammer pants

We're thinking about covering the theme tune, now, hah.

god, Mel was so gross. I remember thinking his fidelity problems stretched credibility--who were all these women willing to sleep with him?

Am I going out on a limb to say I think JP is a good actor?

The best part of the “Donna Martin Graduates” story line actually took place the next year when Brandon was sought out and recruited by the California University Progressive Party to run for the Student Senate because they were so impressed that he organized the “Donna Martin Graduates” protest.

Second, good ol' X-Entertainment with The Wacky Dads of 90210.

Then there's the actual Donna Martin Graduates blog, with "Stories from the front lines of inner-city elementary school education, as told by a bad teacher at a good school in an above-average district." It has not been updated for a year and a half.

“I AM NOT A ROBOT!”

Also, 90210 full of gratuitous references to Minneapolis, like shopping at Dayton's.

Doctor Barry, i forgot to tell you last night that i now curse your name for ever reminding me of Joe E. Tata. i finally had peace, now that the show has been off the air so long, because (i have NO idea why but) his name and his oddly limited acting career sticks in my mind even more than Ornaldo Bloomps.

Dick as "Lou"

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Joe as "Nat"

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woo!

A GIS for Joe E. Tata turns up extremely limited results! Come on Kim, you should be thanking me here. Can you name another character on a long-running hit TV show that was as lovingly useless as Nat? We should be celebrating his name.

it's my own fault though. i should have known better than to click on this thread - but i had truly forgotten.

-- Alfred, Lord Sotosyn (soto.alfre...) (webmail), Today 8:26 AM. (Alfred Soto) (later)

but steve didnt need to read anything. he was filthy rich and thrilled to be filthy rich. the rest spent their time trying to slum it, making them not only lame and boring, but also perfect victims for brandons self-righteous tirades.

What was it called "The Evolution" or something?

I actually watched some clips of some cast reunion show and Priestly said a cogent thing, when they were talking about THE HAIR, he was like "well it was the '80s!" and the others said "it was the '90s!" and he said "okay..it was the early '90s... but it was the '80s!" ... BH90210 really melded that '80s stuff with the '90s in such a weird way.

Kelly was a one-woman Lifetime Network. She joined a cult, had a coke addiction, an eating disorder, was stalked, raped, etc....

http://www.inquisitor.com/90210/

Strangely, this is one of the few parts of the show I remember too. I was thinking about it the other day for some reason.

Oh, Jason Jason Jason, the life we could have spent together...

Wait, what?

Today, the CW ordered the pilot of a "90210" spinoff of sorts penned by Rob Thomas, creator of "Veronica Mars," and executive produced by two members of the "Veronica Mars" producing team, Dan Etheridge and Jennifer Gwartz.

In this contemporary version, the Walshes have been replaced by a central family consisting of a grandmother who was a huge star in the 1970s, her do-gooder son and his athletic wife, and their two teenagers. Their 16-year-old daughter is described as an aspiring and talented actress, and their adopted son is also 16. He's highly intelligent, but with lingering behavioral issues.

The pilot will be directed by Mark Piznarski, who has directed episodes of "Gossip Girl," "Friday Night Lights" and "Veronica Mars." The network will begin casting the project soon.

Too funny...I've been watching the third season for the last several weeks.

i'm so glad alfred! i don't know that we've gotten the 3rd season yet. we kept busy with the 1st and 2nd on dvd. is soapnet still showing it?

very excited to dig back in, but slightly nervous as well -- kelly and brenda are about to have their fight. over dylan. i hate it when best friends debunk.

David's dad couldn't keep his pants zipped up (choice line, "I have trouble/problems with monogamy")
god, Mel was so gross. I remember thinking his fidelity problems stretched credibility--who were all these women willing to sleep with him?

Women who loved mullets and dentrifices?

mullets and dentrifices

There's a blog title.

Season Three is probably the best acted and most realistic, if you care about that sort of thing. It sucks that the DVD couldn't license the original music; I miss hearing "Damn I Wish I Was Your Lover" blasting while Kelly and Dylan are snuggling in front of a campfire, both thinking about their friend in Paris making googly eyes at Dean Cain.

Anyway, somebody explain to me how this new thing is a spinoff.

He's highly intelligent, but with lingering behavioral issues.

lol I hate Freud.

I now have the explanation:

It's happening! It's REALLY happening!

The CW has confirmed that the spin-off of "Beverly Hills, 90210" will be on its fall lineup. As if there was ever a question, but we're excited anyway.

The contemporary version of the 1990s FOX hit will focus on a family that reflects today's celebrity culture: a grandmother (Jessica Walter) who was a huge star in the 1970s and now likes to hit the bottle a bit; her son, who is the new Beverly Hills high school principal, and his ex-Olympic athlete of a wife (Lori Loughlin) who are both thirtysomething; and their two teenagers. The daughter (Shenae Grimes) is -- what else? -- an aspiring actress. The son is a brainiac with behavioral issues.

But it wouldn't be possible to have a spin-off without a visit from the ghosts of West Beverly High past. Jennie Garth will be reprising her role as Kelly Taylor. Only this time, she's a guidance counselor at her alma mater. The role is recurring.

The rest of the cast includes Ryan Eggold, AnnaLynne McCord, Dustin Milligan, Michael Steger, Jessica Stroup and Tristan Wilds.

Asked what the title of the show will be, a CW spokesman said: "90210." We'll take it!

omgosh

thank u world

:)

SCANDAL!:

The question is whether this is a really smart or really stupid decision by The CW's boss Dawn Ostroff. I'm told a contract controversy is preventing Tori Spelling from joining that so-called "edgy, contemporary spin-off" of the '90s hit 90210 on the network this fall as planned. Insiders tell me that Tori was hired to reprise her role as fashion boutique owner Donna Martin for just "$10,000-$20,000" per episode. But then Jennie Garth and Shannen Doherty were signed for "$35,000-$50,000" a show. When Tori found out her former co-stars were getting paid way more than she was, she got pissed and demanded equal pay. But the network suits have refused. So now my sources tell me that Tori has pulled out of the series, which premieres with a 2-hour special on September 2nd. "She thought she deserved parity, and she's got a point," an insider explained to me.

oooh i wouldn't want it any other way!

so soon!

insane

gotta admit tho, i was really into donna in the beginning. she was like the nice friend, the one who would go anywhere with you

thirtysomethings with teenage kids? did they have kids when they were 15?

i kind of hated donna and was mad that i might be associated with her since we shared the same last name but these days im kind of in love with tori spelling.

when they were 15 they were in 3rd grade! xp

shakey, have you not seen the soap phenomenon where a 4 y/o character will disappear for a few weeks and return as a 16 y/o?

Tori Spelling was SO much more tolerable than Jenny Garth and Shannon Doherty by the time of Season Four.

watching this show with a pepperoni pizza is like my favorite sunday night ever

jenny garth seemed like an undercover bitch.

ps you can have a kid when you're 24 and the kid will be 15 when you're a "thirtysomething" HI I AM ALBERT EINSTEIN CERTIFIED MATH GENIUS

I know its possible it just seems like the window for that to be the case is kinda narrow, esp given the kind of characters we're talking about here (lolz I guess Andrea had a kid right out of high school, right? but she was 45 to begin with haha)

:)

I've spent the better part of the summer quietly watching Seasons Three and Four.

this is too much for my little heart right now
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z3TEr3-6g7I&feature=user

oh god why am i at work and not able to watch!?

you'll flip when you get home

not for so many hours ;_;

ugh i know

wanna cut and go to the beach? tell dylan to come

YESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS PLZZZZZZZZZZZ

wow that video!

So, wait, is Doherty playing Brenda again?

oooh i wouldn't want it any other way!

-- tehresa, Monday, August 11, 2008 3:57 PM (1 week ago)

Haha, just read this, but it's sooo OTM!

she's playing old brenda

so i just watched that youtube bc boss went out (shocking, i know). not REALLY flip-worthy but yessss bitches!

i know, but you can imagine me flipping

have you not seen the other ads? or was it just doherty that did it for you?

brenda ;)

DUDES I SCORED SOME EUPHORIA WHO WANTS TO GET HIGH?

brenda was reaaaally pissed about that

This should be a fun show. I have high hopes anyway. Yep, shakey mo, you have to be a seasoned soap fan to completely ignore the impossibility of a one year old that disappears for a few months and comes back as a teen. It’s just a leap you have to allow your brain to make – kinda like when you’re watching a musical; you have to accept in your head that people really do sing dialogue to each other. It’s all good fun.

it's sort of like watching Lost and trying to ignore the lack of showers/hairdryers/makeup/American Eagles present on the island.

M@tt I really hope you're wearing a black shirt with a big 4 on it.

^^

SoapNet to Run 24 Hour 90210 Marathon Before New Series Premiere

SoapNet will air a 24-hour marathon of the original “Beverly Hills, 90210” on Sept. 1 starting at midnight. Twenty-four episodes from the show’s first four seasons will be featured.

The marathon is in anticipation of the premiere of The CW’s spinoff “90210” on Sept. 2.

A CW spokesman said the network was not connected to the SoapNet promotion and that The CW had not bought any ad time during the marathon to promote its new “90210.”

Jennie Garth, analyst:

"It's going to reflect teenagers as they are. It's not going to sugarcoat it. You know teenagers are teenagers no matter if they live in Beverly Hills or if they live in crazy Kansas somewhere. All the kids are the same. They're going through the same elemental issues and problems."

LOl crazy kansas!

omg MARATHON so excited thx ffm

crazy kansas teens = well-adjusted beverly hills teens

http://images.barnesandnoble.com/images/13740000/13743413.JPG

omg this is soooo exciting!

i was raised on beverly hills 90210 and the real world

http://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g192/rrawn/brendaandkellyreunited.jpg

somebody's gonna need to hold my hand during this premiere, that's all i know

why does Jenni's mouth look like that of an eight year old Madonna on that cover?

damnit, I meant eighty

so true!!

madonna mouth

this looks like a mag i should most definitely pick up in the airport tomorrow morning.

without a doubt

THE TIME HAS COME

amazon.com sent me an email reminding me it was on tonight! wtf?!

sunny, i can't wait

me too! and i didn't even sign up for it. or have an amazon account.(?) i'm here i won't moooove

they had a 24hr marathon on Soapnet. Brandon's hair in the pilot A++++++++++. Whole thing is such a great artifact of early 90s cheese. Love when the writers try to force some hip slang into the script.

Brandon's hair in the pilot A++++++++++.

YES. (how much pommade was in that thing?)

I so want to watch it from pilot through the kelly v brenda for dylan saga again

oo..maybe through to junkie dylan driving his 61 Porsche Speedster off a cliff

the kelly v brenda thing is so hard for me though. it's like angela and rayanne i almost can't watch.

fashion wasn't as big of a part of the show, was it? i can't remember at this point, but comparing it to gossip girl, which is basically retail porn, it seems SO different. like, they were all wearing light blue jeans and fleece pullovers in one episode i saw yesterday. part of it is lol 90s fashion, of course, but i don't remember the same frenzy at the time. i could be wrong, but i don't think that any of them appeared in vogue or vanity fair or whatever. tiger beat, more likely.

you should've watched the Soapnet marathon, sunny! i was very disappointed that Brandon's hair had been Beverly Hillified by episode 2. Marathon started at 11pm Sunday, and as I left at 1am, my sister said she was gonna stay up until "that dork shot himself". Wonder if she made it.
Different actress played Kelly's mom in the pilot, and they totally made the right call in replacing her. Ep 2 or 3 was the "40-ish sexpot mom is a total lush you guys" one and Kelly's REAL mom is great in that role. Other one didn't have the chops to pull it off.

xp think you're right, lauren but omg Kelly's outfit in one scene: pink spandex with some striped shorts over them and some other hideousness on top that I can't recall. They show it in a closing credits montage during season 1 ep's.

also the "fashion" at that time wasn't necessarily considered lol... like the light blue jeans and fleece pullovers thing was serious. that actually sounds really comfortable right now

ogod kelly's first mom sucked in comparison!

truth be told, donna wore some of the best outfits. the outfit she had on when she found out her mom was having an affair was particularly omg

oh, i know it was serious. the point is that even at the time, though, it wasn't considered fashion-forward.

fashion wasn't as big of a part of the show, was it?

xxxxposts to lauren about clothes: yeah it wasnt a big thing except that the girls all wore bodyhugging minidresses to events. sort of like less than zero fashion. i think people were more impressed by mansions than clothes back then?

xxxxxposts...surm i was the same with the kelly brenda dylan thing.

Jason Priestley was (briefly) hot in Seasons Two and Three. I'm miffed that the DVD collection could not secure the copyrights to the great period music.

i don't know! i mean, i think you're right in that shows back then weren't necessarily used as runways, but i wouldn't put it past kids watching to idolize that style.

Yes – lotsa girls copied the girls' dresses in the famous prom episode.

GD...i forgot about that kid shooting himself!!

I did flip on to the marathon at some point on monday but i realized dylan and kelly were already together so I didnt bother.

speaking of fashion forward -- obviously, one of the best early episodes is the fashion show, where kelly's mom flips out on coke onstage?

haha i flipped it on yesterday, realized the same thing, didn't bother.
for some reason I thought Donna didn't arrive on scene until at least season 2. her outfits were always pretty wtf, even to me back then. wondered how her dad let her wear some of that.
i missed the 1st 20 minutes of the pilot. how does brenda become friends with Kelly and Donna? i really wished it would've stayed in the afterschool special mode and never evolved to full-fledged teen soap.

xp YES! that was the first ep I ever saw, on some rainy Sunday in 1990. Never had even heard of the show at that point, don't know why they were airing it on a weekend afternoon. apparently it wasn't all that popular until the summer beach episodes aired the following year.

kelly and brenda were sitting together in science i think? or math. and kelly thought brenda looked like fun so she started talking to her

Brenda meets them in class. Donna wasn't originally intended to play such a part; she's a supporting actress in the first season's credits.

To me it's more touching how The Girls accept Andrea.

Some of the great songs I heard for the first time on "90210":

Pet Shop Boys - "So Hard"
Soho - "Hippychick"
R.E.M. - "You Are The Everything"
Sophie B. Hawkins - "Damn, I Wish I Was Your Lover"

Mrs Walsh is Perfect Mom to a comical degree. Brenda comes home late, arriving in strange man's car (Mrs W peeping out the window sees this). Brenda looks upset, so instead of scolding her, Mrs W is all "aww there there, let's sit on the couch and hug. Oh it's all my fault. I should've been paying more attention to you" or some shit.

ha yes that guy she meets at what is the place? the blue iguana or some bullshit?

lol @ sophie B!

yeah I think it was the Blue Iguana. When they first showed dude eyeing Brenda and sidling up from behind, I was sure it was going to be the Date Rape Episode, but no! she winds up screwing him over. (close to being the Statutory Rape Episode, since before she exits his car she discloses that she had planned to give it up to him that night)(is that actor the guy who played the Famous Singer who comes to the record store for a signing in Empire Records?)

omg and what does she order?

A BANANA DAIQUIRI

thats the only part of the pilot i remember! - kelly grabbing brenda to sit next to her in chemistry because some fat chick was about to and she didnt want to be stuck with a fat chick for a lab partner all year.

hey look:

Brenda and Brandon walk through the hallways, and Brenda asks Brandon to look for her at lunch: she doesn’t want to look like a geek without any friends. Brandon says that together they’ll look like two geeks without any friends. They go to the principal’s office to register, and the principal lists Brandon’s various accomplishments in Minnesota: swim team, sports editor of the paper, cross country and a 3 A average – and Brenda: drama club, school council, and almost a straight A student. “Well, I help her with her homework” Brandon says, his condescending tone setting a precedent for his unctuous, sanctimonious behaviour throughout the show. Can you tell I hate Brandon a little bit? The principal tells them that they’re both achievers, but that West Beverly is tough, which I find hard to believe, and that they should come and talk to him if they have any problems, like that ever has happened in the history of high school.

David Silver says hi to Scott, who can’t find his locker because West Beverly High is so much bigger than junior high. David doesn’t care, though, as the “babes are outrageous”. He’s kind of endearingly loathsome.

Chemistry class, and Mr Ridley announces that they should choose seats carefully, because the person next to them will be their lab partner for the semester. A fat girl walks through the classroom, and people avoid her eye and move their books to avoid being paired with her – because a) fat people are dumb, and b) fat is contagious in Beverly Hills. She comes to Kelly, who babbles that the seat next to her is taken. “By who?” the fat girl demands. Kelly flounders, and points to Brenda, who’s just come in: “by that girl” and beckons her over.

Spanish class, and Brandon takes a seat next to Steve, who is on his gargantuan cell phone. The Spanish teacher introduces herself in Spanish, and announces that the class will be all in Spanish, as everyone stares at her cluelessly, and Steve tells Brandon that it’s bogus that she gets paid to speak her native tongue. The teacher asks in Spanish if anyone understands, and Andrea, in the front row, raises her hand like Lisa Simpson, smiling smugly. She’s the smart one, you see, as if wearing glasses and being slightly less than impeccably-groomed isn’t clue enough.

Brandon enters the newsroom for the school paper and asks for Andrea Zuckerman. “I am she”, Andrea announces ungrammatically, pencil clenched between her teeth, not looking up. “Ola” says Brandon, emphasis on the last syllable, and when Andrea looks exasperated, explains “We’re in Spanish together. I’m Brandon.” “Ola,” says Andrea, looking unimpressed. Brandon tells her that he wants to write for the paper. She asks if he can write, and he says that he was sports editor of his old student newspaper in Minnesota. “Great!” she says unconvincingly, and tells him he can either cover a story on toxic waste disposal in chemistry classes or the girls’ water polo match, and Brandon, predictably, goes for the water polo. Andrea smirks and says he failed her test: she gives all guys who want to work for the paper that choice, and none of them has ever chosen the toxic waste. Brandon was a sports editor, though, so it’s not an entirely fair test. She tells Brandon that she runs the top ranked high school newspaper in the country and she wants to keep it that way, which involves long hours, major deadlines and total commitment. “Wow, you are intense,” he says. He offers to interview the janitor for the toxic waste story, and she tells him it’s the custodial engineer. “And Brandon,” she adds, with a smile that signifies a doomed crush that will last the series, “nice meeting you.”

Lunchtime. Brandon tries to join a few groups of kids sitting at tables, but they all get up and leave, so he settles in to eat lunch alone.

Kelly and Brenda stroll past, as Kelly tells Brenda it’s a good thing she met Kelly when she did: West Beverly isn’t like other schools; the kids are richer, some have famous parents, and so socially it’s intense, you make one false move and you’re history: “if people saw you eating lunch alone like that guy over there…” she says, indicating Brandon, and treacherous Brenda walks faster, changing the subject to her old friend in Minnesota. They sit down next to freakish-looking Tori Spelling – Donna – and Kelly says that she could never deal with the cold in Minnesota: she’d get fat. Brenda tells her it’s great: all winter you can eat whatever you want and hide it under bulky clothes. “That’s definitely not Beverly Hills,” says Kelly, adding that someone’s always throwing a pool party so you never get to pig out. Nonetheless, none of the women around the table look as terrifyingly emaciated as some of the actors in more recent teen soaps – Mischa Barton, I am looking at you – which is pleasantly refreshing.

David and Scott carry their lunch trays and piles of books, complaining about how much homework they’ve got – Scott is worried about his GPA, but David’s more concerned about the effect on his nascent social life. A jock throws something at Scott and he drops his books and tray, while the jocks high-five each other, like the arseholes they are. Suddenly David looks up: there’s a plane is in the sky, which is improbably trailing a banner announcing a back to school party on Friday. David rejoices: “Yes! We are THERE!” Kelly sees the address and tells Brenda that it’s Mary Anne Moore’s house: she’s a very rich party girl, with a house so big you need a map. Brenda can’t believe Mary Anne’s inviting the whole school – 1800 people – and presumably half of Los Angeles as well, given that it’s a plane. I never would have got away with that in high school. They look back up and see another plane trailing a sign saying “no freshman”. But presumably freshmen plural are OK? Or not, as Kelly laughs and says that now it’s only 1500 people. She suggests that she and Brenda go to the party together, and Brenda agrees. Meanwhile, Scott and David look dejected, but David’s still determined to go to the party.

The Walsh twins drive home, and Brenda can’t believe they made it through the first day. Brandon asks what she thought, and she says they’re definitely not in Minnesota any more. Brandon says that it’s weird not knowing anybody, adding helpfully “it’s like I don’t know who they are, they don’t know who I am” – thanks for breaking it down for us like that, Brandon! With a way with words like that, I can see how he’s such an ace reporter. He asks if they’re going to Mary Anne Moore’s party and what time they should get there, adding that it’ll be uncool to show up before ten. Brenda’s face falls, and she says she’s already made plans to go with friends – it’s a girl thing, but he should join them if he wants. Unsurprisingly he refuses such a lacklustre invitation, but tells her to go and have a good time – he’ll see her there.

i LOVE the "babes are outrageous" line

kelly: NO FATTEYS PLEASE

my sister was loling at banana daiquiri, too. good writing though! that's exactly what a naive 16 yr old girl would order.

also i completely forgot they were twins!

OMG MINNESOTA TWINS

ITS ALL STARTING TO MAKE SENSE!!!!!!

oh god the whole plane thing is that pilot recap LOLarious

dude i would've gotten up and left if Mr HockeyHair tried to sit at my lunch table, too.

ugh i guess it was a requirement that they put "looks like we're not in Minnesota anymore, Toto" line in there huh.
mary anne moore was a total fox.

and so COMPLICATED!

This thread needs some YouTube...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vV8fXDx_2AM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4qCvp5a2tp4

OMG OMG OMG OMG SO SOON SO OOOOOSOOSOOOOODFJ

I am in the airport but could not bring myself to spend $3.95 on the ew or us weekly with Brenda gracing the covers.

i hope you can watch tonight!

What time is it? 8 or 9?

We have to wait until 10:30 central time, thanks to baseball. But we get two eps in a row!

8pm in NY i think

Crap. I get out of class at 745 so wouldn't get home til 830 or so. Wonder if there's a bar screening it?

that would actually be really fun! i dunno, hopefully they'll replay it sometime this week -- also, i didn't realize it was 2 hours long!

I think they are pairing the first two episodes in one airing. On my DVR recording it lists two different episode titles.

Am I going to be really disappointed for getting excited about this?

Oh no! I don't want to have to wait for rerun or online streaming!

I won't be home any night til Friday. This is going to ruin antm and also I missed gg last night!

:/ let me know if you need me to fill you in when you get home at 8:30ish! at least it's a long one

yikes!
http://www.latimes.com/media/photo/2008-08/41869074.jpg

she looks good there!

You can barely notice the wonky eye!

wonky eye is hot. wonky teeth weren't.

omg naomi's clothes <3<3<3

:D :D :D

I love how Jessica Walter is basically just playing Lucille from AD.

Also, I love the Spring Awakening sequence. Are there actually high schools that can get permission to put on Broadway plays a year after that play won the Tony?

HOLY SHIT. WHAT IS SHE GOING TO DO?

liveblogging lol

OMGz.

btw, CW: It's not a big deal having a 2 hour premiere if it's still only an hour worth of television and just another hour of commercials.

what is "CW"?

The station that's airing this?

Also, is there a single high school newspaper in this country that could get reporters into a party like this?

The music has been really great. Adele is playing.

Yes, but what does it stand for? Is it cable bullshit?

It's network.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_CW_Television_Network

someone fill me in!!!

Well, the main characters are the brother and sister. The sister knows this Ethan guy from a few summers ago. Ethan is on the lacrosse team. The brother joined the lacrosse team. There was some drama there.

Oh, and the brother + sister's father is the new principle.

That "Chasing Pavements" song!!!!!!!!!!!!

I know. I love that song. Amazing.

why does Jennie Garth look like Joan Rivers?

lol lori laughlin trying to be cool mom.

This commercial:content ratio is way out of hand.

So anyway.

brandon is kelly's baby daddy: confirmed. also kelly's mom cameo was a++++! i love that the whole silver plotline is like season 1 style 90210 tackling "serious issues facing teens today" :D

speaking of serious issues facing teens today: i'm kind of surprised by how emaciated most of the female leads are, even by current standards. that poor adrianna character is probably a size 2 in reality, but she looks almost plus-sized next to the others. maybe she's supposed to illustrate the perils of bloating from drug addiction?

adriana in that purple outfit in the first season? after her interview, with the short shorts and big bag

I LOVE NAOMI'S CLOTHES. that denim outfit thing, and the hair.

also YES JACKIE!!!!!!

wait wait, i kept saying it was brandon too, but how did you confirm???

first EPISODE

wtf ilx is back and i'm all disoriented

silver/jackie/kelly scene amazing

<3 <3 <3 this show

oh GET OUT

i'm so sick of both of you.

hahahahahaha yes.

wait wait, i kept saying it was brandon too, but how did you confirm???

kelly told hot-for-teacher dude when they were on the date it was a guy from high school and then they got drunk and hooked up one night. also in 1st episode the conversation btw brenda and kelly led me to believe this. UNLESS ian ziering is slated to make an appearance, no? and the kid has blonde hair...

did you guys see naomi on nip/tuck? seducing her mother's lesbian lover's ex-husband? girl is perfect for this show!

http://i33.tinypic.com/2py6ova.jpg

i havent watched last weeks ep yet!

how does one drunken night = brandon? they had a painfully long and whiney relationship iirc.

dont get me wrong. i want it to be brandon because thats pretty gross.

im also really mad cbs seem to be cancelling swingtown.

she made it sound like brandon by the way she described 'this guy i had a thing with in high school"

ahhh gotcha.

god, Mel was so gross. I remember thinking his fidelity problems stretched credibility--who were all these women willing to sleep with him?

― horseshoe (horseshoe), Saturday, June 10, 2006 4:32 PM (2 years ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

LOLS.

Wait, did Kelly and Brandon have a thing in high school?? I thought that was later.

I thought it would be DYLAN.

riiiight kelly and brandon were in college butdylan is in AA so he cant do drunken hookups unless kelly was pregs for a decade or so

http://community.tvguide.com/blog-entry/TVGuide-News-Blog/Todays-News/90210-News-Preview/800046581?rssDate=12345678

hey remember how kelly used to be all uptight about dylan and her moms drug use/drinking and then she became a cokehead? good times

Well, wasn't Jackie in AA? And look how well that is going!!

Oh, and I guess that endomitriosis Kelly had cleared up.

lol

im going to go with steve because of the hair and hign school dating and how they kept almost hooking up during the original series.

yeah but teh, i do remember brenda telling kell "oh and brandon says you're beautiful..."

so i dunno. i love that i have a show to look forward to now. tuesdays rule.

that episode just made me elated.

best outfit: naomi's confrontation outfit. 80s pop princess perfection :D

and DYLAN

(brenda was gr8 in this one)

when kelly said the father had "issues" i was pretty sure it was dylan.

i just watched the Jackie/Kelly scene again. Jackie reeeeaaally pulls that out. i saw a lot of stuff in her performance -- from denial, to wanting to be a good mom even tho you're an addict, to how pathetic alcoholism can be/seem/whatever. A+!

http://www.radaronline.com/from-the-magazine/2008/09/shannen_doherty_90210_radar_october_issue_01.php

watching this with other ppl tonight. they better behave!

i like the horizontal strip of light shot. i need her makeup artist to give my eye makeup tips

fuck adriana.

good episode tonight

so i dunno. i love that i have a show to look forward to now. tuesdays rule.

― Surmounter, Sunday, September 14, 2008 10:41 AM (1 week ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

Surm, dont you love gossip girl? Its so much more smarter, bitchier and beautiful, no?

id like 90210 but id like it more if the two main characters werent in it

Surm, dont you love gossip girl? Its so much more smarter, bitchier and beautiful, no?

― Bright Future (sunny successor), Wednesday, 24 September 2008 14:04 (1 hour ago) Permalink

just watched it for the 1st time last night! was fun.

gg is editorial; 90210 is catalog.

(to break it down like tyra.)

hahaha

PS -

gossip girl + 90210 + chinese food + friends = great night

man i havent had chinese food in years. sounds like a good combo.

have any of you watched privileged? reviews?

nope. television without pity (my favorite tv site) has a page for it, though: http://www.televisionwithoutpity.com/show/privileged/

i have to confess: i stopped watching 90210 halfway through the second episode. to me, it's just bad, not enjoyably bad.

my friend says privileged is good but i dunno :/

but..... are any of these better than one tree hill??

omg i watched that once and almost puked

hahaha

o

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ggggggggggggggggg

finally watched tuesday's.

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!!!!!!!!!! I havent seen it yet! Now im excited!

people kept warning me it was gonna be good! :D you'll enjoy methinks

Is the Tuesday one the one with the "new student"? Or am I behind an episode?

no yep that's the one

someone i am vaguely acquainted with was just on this, i saw her on this past episode's "last week on 90210" thing. i turned off the show though, i don't watch it.

also no reruns starting oct 21 so catch it or DVR people

Btw, Bright Future, I've been digging the few Privileged episodes I've seen. Don't feel compelled to watch them all. But the ones I've seen have been fun.

ending was awesome!!!

Yeah, Surmounter, it was a cool ep. Not amazing tho - I thought. The character who has the incident at the very end? I didn't care enough about her to care about the incident.

naomi's red heels walking to car? Y

srsly surm you gotta watch her eps on nip/tuck

why are you so right

OMG

told ya!

im glad she had the uma thurman pulp fiction hair stylin

all i have to say, is i'm gonna be SO SAD if naomi and annie stop being friend because of that hot ethan

and how amazing was lori loughlin? "let me define problem. i will hit you in the face so hard, your teeth will fall out"

i almost died!

i'm really scared about the party.

haha I cant wait!!

get this party started!!!

is it on???? i was told no 90210 due to election?

girl, you were

LIED

TO

this was my fav episode yet. big ending in a subtle way! i'm v emotional at the moment :/

its okay ive got it on series record :D

im excited to watch it but only one tv and husband isnt likely to relinquish election coverage any time soon

i know, i had to fight -- but as long as you've got it recorded :D

just tell me this. were any virginities lost?

I don't like Navid at all.

I mean, they set him up from the beginning to be this aggressively dull, self-absorbed tag-along friend, this annoying wannabe journalist, and now we're suddenly supposed to find him attractive?

i agree. that first scene with the jellybeans was so ridiculously chopped up i wonder seriously about the acting ability even for this kind of show.

otoh: annie v cute when puking drunk

omg, annie crying in daddy's arms = newfound respect

i was like, on the floor.

Oh good grief. Watched the 1st 3 of the "new" show and have since saved the rest to Tivo 1) so I can watch back to back eps, 2) can watch other programs in same timeslot, 3) if it turns out to be awful, can delete en masse.

IMO first 3 were good enough to bring me back for more. In the same genre, I am liking dirty sexy money, and with trepidation, lipstick jungle. Opinions if you've seen them?

i hate annie. like, a lot.

i hate to say that i think she's the wrong choice for the "brenda" character but i think she is :/ still i don't feel as strongly as you do, but i get it.

Guys, Jan 6, time to get excited again! If you want kinda-spoilerish news re: a cast addition/romantic character development, this site has you covered.

BUMP

thank you!

What an episode! I don't care what she is, Dixon should ditch Silver and go for Christina ASAP. WOW.

ok waht. look it's like you just have to rub it in that i haven't watched it yet, right? i mean do you want a medal??

;) x

Need I say it again? Navid is a fucking dick.

he is. how bout that ty and his mom tho. adriana's lookin gorgeous with her pregnant glow. annie's still annoying. that LOOK she does with the squinty eyes and cynical lips.

when is donna coming back??!

MARCH 31 BABY

DONNA MARTIN IN THE HOUSE

I wish a volcano would swallow Tori.

So excited! I'm liking this show a lot more than I ever thought I would. I'd totally be crushing on Adrianna if I was still in high school.

I wish a volcano would swallow Tori.

― Event Horizon (Nicole), Friday, March 6, 2009 4:49 PM (5 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

the karma will get you

Or sb!

lol

remember when donna found her mom cheating on her dad at the hotel?

they were there to see color me badd

omg the color me badd episode!

! they come to the peach pit and sing for her cuz she had to miss the show cuz her mom was horny

I wish a volcano would swallow Tori.

― Event Horizon (Nicole), Friday, March 6, 2009 3:49 PM (2 hours ago) Bookmark

god i love tori spelling. whats to hate???

I liked her on 90210, but find her reality show hijinks beyond annoying.

i dont know. thats when i started liking her.

I wish a volcano would swallow Tori.

― Event Horizon (Nicole), Friday, March 6, 2009 3:49 PM (2 hours ago) Bookmark

god i love tori spelling. whats to hate???

― quadratrillionaire (sunny successor), Friday, March 6, 2009 7:20 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

<3 <3 <3

ryan and i are looking into taking a vacation at the old Beach House

guys. Is the 'new' series worth persevering with? I find it's started out a bit slow and bleeehhhh (only started in the UK 5-6 weeks ago) up until the most recent episode with Adriana's overdose. I can't help but feel Shenae Grimes/Annie is soooo out of place in this show, like she should be back in middle-class Degrassi and not in ostentatious-beyond-belief Beverly Hills. And every time I see Lori Loughlin I feel like I'm watching Full House again because she hasn't aged. At all. So yeah 5-6 episodes in and I'm still unsure of this. Is it worth keeping on with, will it get somewhat more interesting than watching Annie be awkwward all the time and Dixon be horribly mismatched with Silver? No spoilers!

Also, Jessica Walter is a total scene stealer. Nu-0210 needs more grandma and less parents.

salsa, it's not so bad. shenae grimes was a disaster as a choice, but the other girls are cool. the guys are ok (i kind of love dixon and silver).

dad/principal is a tool, as is that ryan guy that all the girls think is so hot (so not).

the overdose episode is definitely one of the best. still trying to figure out exactly how crappy/not the writing is.

i'd say perservere for a little bit.

I feel like its gotten better since the overdose, at least a little anyway.

Tori has the most ridiculous boobs in the world.

are you referring to the 2 inch gap between them?

true. one thing i dont understand is why with all her $$$$ over the years she didnt get them fixed.

body dysmorphia

but depending on what she's wearing, they can look really good

on howard:

i love her hair

i've been watching the SoapNet reruns, of the final seasons of this show.

before, i thought the show could never uphold its integrity after losing shannen (altho tiffani was a gift), but boy, have my thoughts on that changed. i find the writing exceptional, the characters fantastic and the leading ladies, in particular, absolutely endearing.

steve just had his baby!

i'm about to watch the last episode of BH90210 . david just asked donna to marry him. i'm a mess.

Awwww

that wedding was intense.

alright guys it's back tonight,

and guess who's fuggin back

also, rumors that what's his name is off the show next season. ethan.

He got 51 sbs.

he fine... but his "character isn't growing" or something

naomi and her new boyfriend are the hottest couple on tv. also donna and kelly back together ++<3++

http://www.teenidols4you.com/blink/Actors/matt_lanter/TI4U_u1150396968.jpg

geez louise

okay i started watching the original show eps on the soap.net channel but there are 2 a day! hard to keep up. theyre up to the classic kelly/brenda/dylan triangle though so its pretty great.

oh yeah, yeah. keep watchin honey doll

(brenda hasn't found out yet has she?)

The one where Brandon takes U4EA is still my favorite.

Brenda broke up with Dylan because that Rick guy she met over the summer in France showed up in LA. Dylan admitted there had been 'a girl' over the summer but didnt say who. Then after they broke up Brenda saw D and K on a date and all hell broke loose. Dylan ran away for an episode but then returned. By this time K and B had made up and they all decided to be friends but then Brenda busted D and K making out again and told K that she and Dylan had made out the night before so now theyve given him a 'choose one of us by new years eve' ultimatum. xpost to surm.
nicole, brandon is getting all addicted to gambling right now. Is the ep where Brandon got high the one where crazy emily slipped something into his drink and then he was butthurt about it for like a year worth of episodes?

instead of grateful like a normal person would be. god.

Then after they broke up Brenda saw D and K on a date and all hell broke loose.

this is my favorite episode of the show...

"whatever you say kelly. but i was always taught, if it looks like a duck, and walks like a duck..."

"go to hell brenda"

ummm yeah that's the episode where emily slips him the stuff, sunny

yeah the duck thing was pretty funny.

and that rick guy is just all 'hey guys lets all just sit down and talk this out. oh im rick, btw.'

haha i know, shmuck. brenda's french accent, btw, HILAR (donna was like "brenda, why are you pretending to be french?" and she goes "cut's it's fun!")

Bonjour, Reeek!

She was oh so convincing.

it warms my heart to watch kelly and donna back together on the new show. donna really looks like an alien.

ummm

the finale

ANNIE

i don't think i hate her anymore, cuz she may have just instigated the most interesting plot line of the show

this was actually a pretty impressive finale imo

that FIGHT!

(at afterprom)

i know! and adrianna's babby so so pretty. i also like how ugly annie looked when she finally lost it.

omg me too

the last scene with the car was eerie and greeat

PS my boyfriend got me a donna martin barbie doll for my birthday, fully intact in the box HELLS TO THE YEAH

so our DVR was kinda fuxxored at the end of this episode, did Annie hit a person? seemed like just some random lump in the road

she hit a person, and fled, dude

i figured out the fled part, our DVR cut out just after the shot of her looking at the vodka bottle

DONNA MARTIN GRADUATES

omg i just watched that yesterday -- SOAPnet had a "donnarama" day!!

best part is when donna calls her mom out on her affair

hahaha yeah.

i dont remember actually seeing a person in the road after annies bump.

also:

PS my boyfriend got me a donna martin barbie doll for my birthday, fully intact in the box HELLS TO THE YEAH

― Surmounter, Tuesday, May 26, 2009 12:47 PM (10 minutes ago) Bookmark

this is what they call a 'keeper' iirc

Hmm, "official" recaps seem to be up in the air about the lump too:

The next morning, a disheveled, possibly drunk Annie tears down a mountain road and accidentally hits something. For a second, she appears to be in shock, but just as quickly, she spies a car in her rear-view mirror and drives away. What is that dark, lifeless lump she leaves in her wake? A deer? A large dog? A person?!

way to turn a bunch of people calling you a snitch into a full blown disaster

my boyfriend got me a donna martin barbie doll for my birthday, fully intact in the box HELLS TO THE YEAH

I bought all of the dolls when they first came out, they are probably moldering in my parents' basement.

going back to soapnet 90210 repeats i gotta say coked up kelly is A++++.

watching 90210 the college years the other day i noticed this:

http://mrcanacorn.files.wordpress.com/2009/05/vlcsnap-43150.png

So finally watched the season premiere yesterday, huh. The writers certainly have it out for Annie, don't they? And what was different about Adrianna besides the long hair? New nose?

i didnt recognize adrianna at first! must be more than hair although the hair looks A++

i dunno, she might be a little skinnier.

tbh her storyline is the best now. i called it "very footballers wives" what with the whole hit and run, living a lie thing

old 90 on now -- "perfect mom." they really don't fuckin make em like they used to

sorry "her storyline" meaning annie, not adriana. adriana, tho, might be skinnier this season.

Adriana looked so smashy last week laying around in bed with Navid.

silver and annie are so much hotter

really? they look so average to me.

http://www2.pictures.zimbio.com/fp/Porsche+Vanity+Fair+Celebrate+Launch+New+Porsche+04RMT8Ek-9Ql.jpg

yea she's kind of unreal

superhot

umm good episode

xcept when the eff is jen gonna go down? this is getting ridiculous

like, why liam hasn't just told everyone about it is the stupidest suspension of disbelief or whatever you call it that i've ever heard it

it's just like, clear your fuckin name already, douche

lori loughlin bringin it though.

"i'll give you a hint. it starts with 'you're not pregnant,' and it ends with 'stay away from my son.' enjoy your coffee, sasha"

i had to rewind for that bit

That line was great!

Its so funny which storylines they beat to death and which ones disappear quickly, though. I mean, I honestly expected the Dixon/Sasha pregnancy thing to run at least half a season, not be completely wrapped up one episode later. On the other hand, I figured they'd have the hit and run thing wrapped up in episode 1, yet its dragging on and on and on.

What's Liam building guys?

good question

how funny was it when adriana walked into the party?

http://www.magxone.com/uploads/2009/08/Jessica-Stroup-Esquire-Magazine-September-1.jpg

EG

What's Liam building guys?

time machine to unsleep with jen

um, i mean EH

good episode finally

naomi called annie!

also RIP jackie :(

it's new tonight, right?

i just watched the episode where andrea leaves (season 5, finale i think?)

crying :(

http://grab.by/2iSA

i cannot wait for 9/02/10

my friends and i are planning a party

!!!

we were going to rent out the beach house, actually, but it turns out it was put on the market for sale a DAY before we checked into it

sooo updates:

1) i am now on the 7th season of the original series, and i've already seen the 9th and 10th, so i'm almost done!! it is so good. donna, val, and kel make for some really good tv.

2) new series premiere this week. it was ok. annie storyline is still the lifeboat of the show, and adriana a lezzie?? pls, more

OMG

it's like this show is so bad but when it hits a high note (the new show that is) FUUUUUUCKKKKKKKKK

NAOMI!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

i cannot wait for 9/02/10

my friends and i are planning a party

This had better be the best damn party anywhere. (I will send my regards from SF as I'll be there for a music festival.)

omg this episode

first Liam's boat :'(
BUT THEN
Naomi :''''(

happy 90210

i remember the first time i ever saw the show, summer of '91, i think? the sideburns were seriously distracting.

“Look, I hate you both. Never talk to me again!”

lol she said "look" so much

She was so dramatic, I miss her divatude.

I had no idea the full episodes are available on youtube now!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U3AOH8HLFLw

what's wrong with the egg

i knew which episode that was as soon as i looked at that screengrab. otoh what i remember from college = 0

kinda miss gathering together with friends to watch melrose place. and, the heights

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GQU7HRJWS1s

I'll bet songs like this are what won over Megan Fox.

omg that song, i can't

i like sing that song sometimes

having a slumber party tonight, 90210 all night

shd probably start with "SLUMBER PARTY"

HAPPY 90210 EVERYBODY

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZZrUakzNBxA

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mB7Ztq16A7M&feature=player_embedded

ilx, you're so precious to me.

Poor AHHHN-drea, trying to fit in.

hahaha

http://media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lami82DMOQ1qzozj1.gif

That picture is so mesmerizing.

lol @ Ghostbusters shirt

http://media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lamhsmLSDK1qzozj1.jpg

lol @ Ghostbusters shirt

The Jareth/Labryrinth shirt cracks me up more, I don't know why.

http://media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lamhvij5p61qzozj1.jpg

http://media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lami0kxaEA1qzozj1.jpg

this makes me very happy that I am not famous

http://www.iheartchaos.com/post/1368942961/twenty-ish-things-pictures-of-luke-perry-with-fans-at

omg this one

http://media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lami4rPDFc1qzozj1.jpg

Surm u watching the new season?

The second episode of the new season is where my wife and I finally threw in the towel. Its just too ridiculous at this point.

I mean, it always kinda has been, but the lame excuse for Liam to buy the bar, making the black kid the one who drops out of college and gets addicted to pills, and the fucking pig dinner were just all ugh, can no longer waste my time on this shit.

haha can't say i blame ya

i have to say that i threw in the towel a bunch of episodes ago. it was like ... the writing is just ...

but i watched an episode the other night and naomi clark is just ...

perfect.

^^^^^ exactly why I keep watching

yeah sometimes there's that shining star

listen, i'm watching the old 90210 now. valerie's in jail.

for smothering Jim and Cindy Walsh with a Guess? sweater.

what the world was waiting for

She lost her virginity upon being date raped. She was almost burned alive at a rave, and later developed a coke habit of her own which she went to rehab for, then was stalked and almost killed by her roommate. Kelly became unexpectedly pregnant before having a miscarriage and told she may never carry a child to term. She was shot during a drive-by shooting at LAX and suffered amnesia. She was raped in an alley and later shot the rapist, with the police clearing her on grounds of self-defense.

Steve Sanders is almost 50!?!?

Oy

"We had shirtlessness on 90210"
GASP
Chippendales? More like Dudes Gone Lame

btw I have a very clear memory of every kelly scene in mizzells post.

She lost her virginity upon being date raped. She was almost burned alive at a rave, and later developed a coke habit of her own which she went to rehab for, then was stalked and almost killed by her roommate. Kelly became unexpectedly pregnant before having a miscarriage and told she may never carry a child to term. She was shot during a drive-by shooting at LAX and suffered amnesia. She was raped in an alley and later shot the rapist, with the police clearing her on grounds of self-defense.

which Joyce Carol Oates story is this?

I am enjoying rewatching this show as a kind of inversion of Twin Peaks (the only other non-sitcom show about teens on TV at the time), it's so goddamn ridiculous

It hews closely to realism for the first three seasons. It turns into a Melrose Place knockoff after 1993.

idk if knockoff is really the right term there

MP was a 92010 spinoff, then outdid in the Dynasty claptrap. 90210 had to compete.

90210 is also pretty much a "trauma/issue of the week" show right from the beginning - Dylan's in AA, Kelly gets raped, Brandon gets drunk for the first time and crashes a car, Brandon has to talk a classmate out of killing himself, Brenda has a pregnancy scare etc etc. melodrama was it's core modus operandi.

oh no doubt but it took a few years for Kelly's lesbian paramour to burn down her house.

haha lookin forward to that. also Dylan's gangster hitman plot, which I had totally forgotten about

there's so much

Valerie is the best thing that ever happened to this show besides maybe baby Brenda or Dylan-stealing Kelly

or Tori's acting when she gets pushed down the stairs

last night I annoyed my wife w an extended comparison between "let Donna Martin graduate" partisans and Trump voters

BHHAHHAHAHA

I can see Alfred's point that past season 3 or so the unlikely scenarios and "everybody gets a trauma!" plotting begin to pile-up to ridiculous degrees. Like, Brenda having a pregnancy scare (however contrived and telegraphed) in season 1 is not really outside the bounds of normal teenage experience, as opposed to being caught in the middle of a mob war with exploding boats and shit.

does anyone ever get amnesia on this show? or come back from the dead? (pretty sure both things happened on Melrose Place iirc)

the Brenda pregnancy scare was persuasive, actually. That's the summer when the show took off.

omg in S2 ep 4 Kelly is complaining about David's dad dating her mother and she says... "it's like something out of a David Lynch movie"

zeitgeisty!

Mel is so gross with that mullet.

"I can't keep my hands off women."

huh so we got to the "Brandon dates a racist" arc in season 3 and I was actually kind of struck by how well it was handled/depicted (in contrast to the S1 "Brandon meets a black neighbor" episode). His girlfriend drops a number of snide comments - no n-words or overt slurs but plenty of subtle shade-throwing at Brandon's black boss, homeless people, etc. The last straw for Brandon is (of course) when she says some snarky anti-semitic shit about Andrea behind her back. Brandon actually references the Rodney King riots (and not even for the first time!), calls himself "a liberal kind of person", and, after initially trying to say he's willing to set aside their political differences, tells her to get lost and that it doesn't matter how well they get along, how attracted they are to each other. I had totally forgotten this storyline, was kind of surprising that it wasn't as super-clumsy as some of the other contemporary references.

you fuck with the Zuckerman, you fuck with Brandon

however there will under no circumstances be a Brandon fucking a Zuckerman

don't fuck a Zuck

episode also featured the debut of David Silver's musical career, which is so awesomely painful to witness

AH-ndrea Zuckerman.

Season 4 and everyone's in college, cast expands, and the writing really starts to devolve into separate who-is-getting-down-with-who storylines that don't have much to do with each other. There isn't even a central storyline for each episode, just this v soap-opera-ish devotion of equal time to everybody's dumbshit storylines.

Still entertaining for the general tone deafness of it all, the clumsy cultural signifiers, the occasional random guest star ("oh hey that guy shows up on Mad Men"), and the intermittent "issue" episodes (Take Back the Night! Are Sororities Really Anti-Semitic? etc.)

Also a huge chunk of the male cast is devoted to predatory sexual behavior (glaring exceptions being David and Brandon), I'm not entirely sure it's intentional but it sure is fucking creepy.

Dylan is still a reliably hilarious character - a selfish, entitled, aimless millionaire committed to a one-dimensional "literary rebel" persona (he likes Rimbaud AND Kerouac!)

and Brandon found a volume of Byron in his back seat!

Dylan was reading Byron in third grade before it was "cool" iirc

Things Dylan did prior to the start of the show:
- had a drinking problem/joined AA
- raced cars
- rode horses
- had lots of sex
- hung out with mobsters

y'know, average teenage millionaire stuff

Ugh, so many boat anchor plots dragging down season 4 - anything with Emily Valentine, Brenda getting all woke.

I have opinions about this "Take Back the Night" episode in season 4.

The show is generally hit-or-miss when it comes to acknowledging contemporary issues but man did this one really irritate me with its reactionary framing. Steve has a one-night stand at the frat house with some walk-on freshman character who subsequently pesters him/follows him around thinking their fling meant something, and then when she is rebuffed she finds herself swept up in the rhetoric about sexual assault and accuses Steve of being a rapist. The whole way this plot is set up is so awful - it ostensibly introduces the political rhetoric and POV of sexual assault victims, but places them in the mouths of characters that the viewers will inherently find untrustworthy (the freshman, the opportunistic black Student Senate leader who previously gave Brendan crap for not being committed enough, etc.). The whole episode hinges on Kelly at first taking the freshman's side but then refusing to believe her when she finds out the sexual predator in question is Steve, who "couldn't possibly be a rapist". Combined with the show's repeated instances of portraying various male leads' sexually aggressive behavior as harmless, romantic, comedic, etc. it reinforces this dynamic of guys being excused for casual misogyny, stalking, emotional abuse.

dude it's Steve

I know I know

Dylan is still a reliably hilarious character - a selfish, entitled, aimless millionaire committed to a one-dimensional "literary rebel" persona (he likes Rimbaud AND Kerouac!)

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but cmon he is so dreamy

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knee deep in season 4 and I may have hit my limit early with the most egregiously awful episode to-date, the episode where Brenda finds a teenage girl's diary from the 60s. The entire episode consists of Brenda imagining the gang acting out the events in the diary, complete with bad wigs, cringeworthy dialogue (it feels like every other line is a period-appropriate song title/lyric reference), and the laziest plotting imaginable.

I was planning on watching up through the episode where Donna gets pushed down the stairs by her abusive rocker boyfriend but this may have been a bridge to far.

it's clearly a filler episode but nothing is really played for laughs and the boomer 60s shit is cliched beyond belief. on the plus side, Brendan plays the gung ho ROTC recruit (in Robert McNamara drag) that signs up for Vietnam duty and promptly gets killed.

season has rebounded with "Steve outs a gay guy at the frat" episode

the rocker boyfriend (the dude from The Heights!) is later, no? It's when Valerie enters the Walsh household.

Shakey, I like to imagine you at work watching these. Your boss knocks on your door, you say, "In a minute, chief."

yeah the rocker dude is way later, like season 7 or something

I am not watching these at work! lol

Spielberg sucks, huh?

Mostly

i have a new appreciation of your idea of what's worth (re)watching

Campy distractions have their virtues

Spielberg does suck but Shakey couldn't have picked a worse context to make the stand in

Imagine, rewatching all any of Bev 90210 in 2017 and not at least starting a podcast and patreon to justify it

Morbz is ref'ing a comment i made on another thread tbf

yeah the rocker dude is way later, like season 7 or something

I was so wrong about this, he is front and center in Season 5 and shit is wall-to-wall silliness now. Surm otm that Val is somehow the best thing that ever happened to this show - one of the only credible actresses/characters (also I love how her secret weed-smoking is portrayed as evidence of her inherent untrustworthiness lol)

Had totally forgotten Kelly's lesbian-burn-victim-Scientology-joining story arc wtf

also *love* Steve's dad, who plays every scene like he's the tough-talking heavy in a 40s noir film

Steve's dad and Kelly's mom are my favorite parents.

By 'the rocker' we mean Ray Pruit right? Googling him now it turns out he, Jamie Walters, did pursue a music career and actually sold loads of records. He's an LAPD firefighter now!

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"Hold On" was the only hit, and it got substantial airplay in summer 1995.

at the time I had the distinct impression that the show was def trying to launch his music career, a bid for cross-platform brand synergies blah blah blah

That was my impression too! It was really on the nose, which felt a bit off because he also had some domestic violence stuff going on (didn't he shove Donna down the stairs?). But it was 1994, I lived and saw this in Europe, and would not have internet at my disposal until a year after that. And I never looked back.

Apols in advance for spoilers 23 years (holy fuck) after the fact obv :)

He shoved Donna down the stairs, at whose foot Kelly awaited, ready to make lesbian moves. Meanwhile Dylan watched, waiting to set them on fire while Brenda danced to Wilson Phillips in glee.

Gah. Way to make me love you more! That is some memory.

(Wilson Philips yes! Such a BH90210 band... we need a thread or a poll or whatever specifically about the INSANE musical appearances on this show... My brother and I always chuckled at the standard Dave or Steve line going "Good band!" while some indie-band was sweating it on stage at some prom or dance or party)

Color me Badd! The Cardigans! The Flaming Lips! The fucking Cramps!

The quote is "This alternative music isn't bad!" about Flaming Lips.

luv you Steve Sanders

Haha yasss

at the time I had the distinct impression that the show was def trying to launch his music career, a bid for cross-platform brand synergies blah blah blah

So basically, "The Heights 2.0"?

Wait... the Cramps!? I def dont remember that!

Babyface and Jade otoh

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F6_mDFx2Zi8

so wtf we got to the Flaming Lips episode and their scene was edited out! I also noticed that the episode with Jade was missing, as was the episode with Color Me Badd. I assume Hulu must have some problem securing the music rights...? So fucking lame.

Yep.

I have reached the end. In the season 5 finale Kelly *almost* becomes a lesbian, Steve hits on a transvestite, Brandon makes out with Valerie, Ray pushes Donna down the stairs, and Dylan gets dangled out of a funicular by a mobster. Everything has become so ridiculous *all the time* I'm now inclined to accept Alfred's initial estimation that after the first 2 seasons any semblance of recognizable teenage reality began to be eroded in favor of silly soap opera hijinks.

Dylan's past-life regressions were p funny tho. I think I liked "Hobo Dylan" the best.

Wife and I did a complete re-watch a few years back and I remember being pleasantly surprised by the second-to-last season, whichever one that is. If memory serves, Valerie puts the show on her back and carries it. Don’t give up yet!

my wife has soldiered on to season 6 w out me (she claims she will only watch it until Donna loses her virginity lol), I can't take it anymore

poor Mr. and Mrs. Walsh up and left for Japan

What in the

https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/live-feed/90210-revival-lands-at-fox-summer-debut-1191050

The six-episode "event series" will see original stars Jason Priestley, Jennie Garth, Ian Ziering, Gabrielle Carteris, Brian Austin Green and Tori Spelling play heightened versions of themselves shopping a reboot of, what else: 'Beverly Hills, 90210.'

The new 90210 is described as irreverent and is inspired by the six original stars' real lives and relationships.

Written by Tom Stoppard

Nah, Pirandello. Six Actors In Search of a Pension Top-Up.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.independent.co.uk/arts-entertainment/tv/news/luke-perry-stroke-latest-hospital-la-update-90210-riverdale-a8801711.html%3famp

i was worried this would be an RIP thread, like maybe Joe E Tata

Yeah same. Damn we old now. A stroke!

I'm bummed this new miniseries is a meta-faux-reality TV thing and not, like, a proper reunion of the fictional characters "in-universe".

lol this one took me by surprise last night
https://ew.com/tv/beverly-hills-90210-guest-stars/?slide=5567472#5567472

huh Gabrielle Carteris is SAG-AFTRA president

Voted most likely to do just that at West Beverly iirc

lol

most unlikely to be granted her own talk show

in the episode where the gang wrestles with an anti-semitic/Nation of Islam-type "controversial" african american speaker coming to campus, Brandon gets in the classic line "Maybe we should have just invited Bill Cosby instead"

omg i just saw that episode

gotta be honest tho that grandma's got nothing on Andrea's first grandma

haha yes, too many grandmas!

possibly the most "LOL 90s" episode

nobody knows how many grandmas Andrea actually had, but they all survived Buchenwald

Grandma Rose (Grandma 1 )

https://vignette.wikia.nocookie.net/90210/images/0/07/RoseZ.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20170306224116

this actress is amazing, she also played Maxine on Desperate Housewives lol

lol xp. sorry image so big. but tbh she deserves it

And she walked around in a bathrobe all day!

lol remember when she wouldn't lie about her address for Andrea's sake about

about

YES. omg Andrea got so upset. honestly Andrea upset is one of the most comical things to watch, she just gets so worked up

wait I thought Andrea played Andrea and Andrea's grandmother

lol. did you know that Andrea is the current president of the Screen Actor's Guild??!??!?!?! like where did that come from?

lol remember when she wouldn't lie about her address for Andrea's sake about

this is what came to mind when I read "Andrea's grandma". so yes I remember. can't remember the name of my friend's stepdaughter but I remember a minor plot point from 90210.

i mean, it was a big deal for Andrea

what *isn't* a big deal for Andrea

I like how her husband (MARK DAVID ESPINOZA) got an opening credit after being on the show less than two seasons - up yours, Joe E. Tata!

Ta-ta!

musta had a mafia-backed agent, tho you'd think Joe E Tata would be the one with that

That actress is Lainie Kazan!

holy shit

Her popularity increasing, Kazan posed nude for the October 1970 issue of Playboy, which was reused in Pocket Playboy #4, issued in 1974. Her appearance in the magazine opened the door for her to headline at, and operate, two different Playboy Jazz Clubs. Overseen by Hugh Hefner himself, the clubs were called "Lainie’s Room West" and "Lainie's Room East," each on opposite coasts, with the first one located in Los Angeles and the other in Manhattan. Her Playboy photographs inspired the look of Jack Kirby’s DC Comics superheroine, Big Barda.

She’s also only 21 years older than Gabrielle Carteris.

(bolded text most likely only of interest to Jewish comic nerds like me)

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STOP
OMG
so funny because in Desp Housewives she played like a Digital madame
this is AMAZING!

I have a couple of her records, I can’t remember if I have that one.

Squash it!

Increase the peace.

Streaming on Amazon Prime. I'm going to die.

“Well, this man is dead.”

“What killed him?”

“*glances at TV* My guess? Sideburns and bangs.”

I just started rewatching this. Brandon is such a judgy asshole. The Walshes are giving Minnesota a bad name.

The signifiers of wealth are hilarious though. Valet parking at school, school radio station, brick cellphones, absent parents. BMWs and mopeds (??).

It's quaint to see this kind of midwestern liberalism proudly asserting itself during the Poppy Bush Interzone

Also, Brenda tricks a 25-year-old guy, over several dates, into thinking she's 21-22 y/o. When he finds out the truth he gets angry and drops her straight home. Her reaction is 'Don't you think this is hard for me????' She runs into her mother's arms who tells her 'Its okay! Its okay!'

I mean, IS IT???

Damn, I didn’t remember that plot point at all! But I haven’t watched these since they were airing…

The rave episode, the Flaming Lips appearance but honestly maybe the musical moment that marks a time and place is right in the pilot where Brenda goes to that nightclub and Gene Loves Jezebel's "The Motion of Love" is what's on their soundsystem. (Especially since it was 1990 and that came out three years prior, but maybe that makes sense for the sleazy lawyer making the moves.)

I distinctly remember "Hippychick" and PSB's "So Hard" soundtracking a couple episodes.

Truly the Poppy Bush Interzone soundtrack!

need footage of Steve and Dylan gettin' down to "Kinky Afro."

I was too young to watch this at the time, but have been dipping in when I feel like some '90s cheese--so I tend to go straight to the "very special" episodes such as "Ashes to Ashes", where a Black family moves in next door and face hassles with the neighborhood private security. ("A scheduled April repeat of this episode was pulled from the air without notice following the Los Angeles riots because it was supposedly too controversial" sez Wikipedia.)

Having served their afterschool special role, this family is never seen again on the show.

A kind soul on the internet has done editing work to restore the original music back into the episodes and uploaded them onto Google Drive. If the email linked to my ILX account still existed I'd be happy to share the link, but alas.

^^^ Ah, yes! The “squash it” episode