Big Brother 2006 (UK) Thread 4: Mysterious Amniosities of Gold

Madchen, the GPB hate her anyway because they think she's either Veruca Salt or a fix.

Actually, that is more frightning than the current situation.

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Eugene to thread.

her lack of tact when handing out the invites to her party was shocking.

Suzie: Glyn, Richard, Lea and Aislyne; could I have a private word with you?
Rumbling noise
Lisa: What's that fookin' sound?
Pete: That's the sound of Grace's teeth grinding together.Wanky fuck!

Haha, "you like spagettii bolognaise don't you?"
"er, yeah"
"good, that means I can pretend I'm being only fair and nice when I hand this invite to the person standing next to you"

(I would prefer the spag bol myself, Suzie has a face like a cadaver and that would put me right off me mince.)

Completely agree with Stone Monkey about Aislene at the end of the last thread. It goes mostly unnoticed but she's slowly showing herself to be one of the nicer housemates. Not a contender for winning but a nice addition to the house.

I don't agree with the people who are saying Endemol screwed up by letting Grace hear the chanting - it's delightfully cathartic to see her in mental turmoil (and no, I have no shame about this - judging on her performance over the past couple of week I'd wager the girl has made countless people suffer in the past and has never been on the receiving end of same). Plus, it's not like Davina will rip her to shreds in the interview so this could be our only chance to watch her squirm.

I imagine the BB producers are cursing Suzie getting in. She's a posh bland mirror-image of Lea and doesn't look likely to cause much in the way of exciting TV. But aren't we due another housemate to replace George? More than anything we need a new alpha-male figure to a) topple Richard, b) woo Imogen, and c) stop the house spiralling into nicey-nice tedium post-Grace.

http://bbimages.digitalspy.co.uk/bb7/library/200x300_bb7_hms_richard.jpg = http://images.darkhorse.com/covers/med/12/12696.jpg

I feel for Grace a little.

Mikey and Aisleyne getting attached next week could be interesting, though.

i've just spent half of "big brain" arguing with mrs fiendish about this ... i absolutely loathe grace, but i'll admit that this is partly because she reminds me of the dreadful overprivilged private-schoolgirls i met at school [1] and then - in frightening numbers - in my first year at university. it took me until i was 19 or so to learn how to deal with them and after that they ceased to upset me so (indeed, i became good friends with several of them), but my inner schoolboy still screams with horror at the very sight of grace (let alone the sound of her voice).

that said, i do stand by the presumption i made in the previous thread: it's obvious she's wafted through life thinking/being told that she's the best thing since sliced ciabatta, and i have no sympathy for anyone who's reached the age of 20 without thinking, hang on a fucking minute, should i actually take some kind of long, hard look at myself? if this is the first time she's actually had to confront the less pleasant parts of her personality/persona, it's fucking WELL overdue.

as for the GBP: a lot of it, naturally, is good ol'-fashioned class envy/hatred, and i'm afraid i just can't work up any kind of sympathy on behalf of a haughty sloane whose mum bought her a fucking £340k flat. this is perhaps immature and pathetic of me, but hey: wasn't one of the loftier ideals of the original BB that it would tell us as much about ourselves and our attitudes as it would about the housemates?

[1] yes, this makes me an overpriviliged private-schoolboy. but in fairness i spent my teenage years hating myself for it and ... oh, never mind ;)

The Grace/Sezer hatred seems to be about punishing archetypal high school figures from the past rather than the actual people themselves. Sezer is the awful bloke who stole the girl you fancied. Grace is the rich kid who spent the whole of the sixth form blanking you and being miserable despite having it made. Sezer deserved it; I'm not convinced Grace does.

hmmmm. sort of, but not really. i don't think i've ever met any sezers; i've met plenty of priapic/overly confident/sex-obsessed blokes, but quite often they've become friends (or at least acquaintances) and i've forgiven them their cock-happy ways. but sezer was repulsively fucking smug and insufferably bollock-driven in a way i've never really come across IRL; he truly was in a class of his own.

grace is more of an archetype, yes; and for me personally there are elements of teenage loathing/class hatred in there. but i really don't think the same can be said of the rest of the country ... i mean, it really is very unusual for me to be in step with the rest of the GBP on something like this ;)

i think, at base, it's simply that she's coming across like an arrogant, stirring, two-faced cow ;)

The couple had the longest-running BB romance.

Big surprise time.

Pete's found her a bit in your face.

Imogen's found her a bit self centered.

Richard ah you fill in the rest.

"Do you not like more natural looking girls that look the same without make-up as they do with make-up?" she retorted.

I wonder if she has a knife collection at herm (in Notting Hill yes quite right RJG - same COUNCIL as Chelsea tho innit)!

1. Model that does porn
2. Model that flaunts their body on cars and that
3. Model that does promotions work
4. Model that goes to the hairdressers and gets a cheap haircut, once in a while.

OK, so I'm category four. chill.

from channel4.com:

Grace then trudged into the Diary Room and stayed in there for, like, an hour. Crying mostly, but also talking about the reasons anyone could possibly have it in for her.

"They must have portrayed me as some slag or hoochie mamma, I know what girls are like," she said. "But I was just being myself. Maybe I should have been backstabbing like everyone else."

She seemed convinced her low approval rating had something to do with her fling with Mikey and rejected all other possibilities. "Maybe I've been over-bitching but I'm sure I haven't. I don't s***-stir," she said.

Which posh white girl are we talking about here? Grace, Nikki or Aisleyne (or whatever the fuck she's called)?

Bottom line is a girl like Grace will think that whatever she is doing is cool as long as she isn't opening her legs to anyone in public, and if a girl seems like the other type it's just fair comment as part of life's great competition between women who 'know what girls are like'.

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yeh, that's pretty much what he seems to spend his every waking minute doing. and probably his sleeping ones too.

"Old people", he deduced, were the cause of the show becoming boring. He pleaded: "For fuck's sake, let's get pissed and fucking dance."

Also don't understand the fevered hate, like she isn't even annoying, just a bore.

How can the public hate her so much? Is there a kind of hating her cos she's (relatively) pretty thing going on? Or cos she's the alpha female and more women watch the show?

I dunno, just seems kind of weird, most hated contestants in the past have been more forcefully awful.

grace lives in a flat her mum bought her in notting hill and she went to private school. for most people that will do for 'posh'.

What have I missed since last Wednesday? Anything good.

she doesn't SEEM posh or speak poshly or even act poshly, or dress in a posh way.

From the evidence he's given us so far I very much doubt Mikey thinks about anything to that sort of depth...

she's *relatively* well-spoken. dress in a posh way means what!?

x-post Alba otm.

I don't know about dressing in a posh way, I guess people have different ideas about this, but surely more conservative dress would be more posh? she's hardly dressing smartly or fashionably enough to qualify for posh (or far differently from the other housemates?)

I guess also what I'm getting at is that it's tricky to say she is a brand of posh that is actually really considered annoying or in your face, at least IMO.

Is she really snootier than other housemates? If so is this because of her background. I don't really see that in a very pronounced way.

Ronan, not all posh girls are the Queen.

(i could have summed this up with a simple "alba OTM" but hey, fuck it.)

now i'm getting back to work before this descends into a pointless debate about semantics ;)

Also more conservative does not equal the Queen, there are smarter ways to dress that denote money that are not staid (perhaps conservative was the wrong choice of word tho, fair enough)

I just don't really understand the significance of posh as a description for Grace. also it's worth noting that people are a lot slower to criticise other housemates and relate their behaviour to their social class when this social class isn't a moneyed one.

This is despite the fact that arguably someone like Lea or Lisa who is obsessed with being looked down on and swears constantly is behaving far in a far more class stereotypical way. I'm not encouraging people to come out and denounce her for this but there is a double standard there I think.

it's her sense of entitlement and the idea she's above aisyhlene etc.

it wouldn't be ilxx form to say 'omg lea, wot a prole', but i hope it's obvious why.

OTM. This is exactly what I had in mind.

I don't think Grace has a sense of entitlement. Surely Lea or Lisa have just as much a sense of entitlement, always moaning about people not treating them as equals etc, and saying others will not be able to survive because they won't change their behaviour for anyone etc? If Grace is so posh why is she sitting bitching with the others (who aren't posh) for hours.

Grace moans about female housemates thinking that they are 'number one'.

That's the difference.

Do you really think thousands of hate filled BB protestors actually can manage to unite against her cos of fairly complicated shit stirring episodes? There has to be another more blatant reason!

But yes, another male housemate desperately needed, but a bog-standard alpha male probably not.

nb: this is a joke.

Also the BB mob victimises just as often if not more often as it puts people in their place.

It's so blatant, yet the majority of the audience is female.

Weird.

Now, even if that were true, does that mean everyone else is not? Or that only the 'superficially' wacky auditioners stand a chance of even getting to stage two?

He claims her face is "Plain. Plain weird."

None of the blokes in the office seem to think she's good looking either, nice body, they agree, shame about the face.

As for the Davina point upthread - who cares what their lives are like outside? It's what they do inside the house that makes them interesting! Which is why Glyn, who has the most unexciting outside life, is doing so well, because of this whole comical voyage of self-discovery.

Mind you it was the same for Sam, people booing, but for what. Just seemed vindictive and pointless. I am still convinced they played cheers through the tannoy to drown out the booing when Sam left the house.

Imogen>Grace>Nikki>Aisleyne>Lisa>New girl>Lea.

Grace is quite posh. I don't think you have to be old money at all to be posh.

posh people don't really wear designer clothes, do they? at any rate it's not a yardstick of poshness, probably quite the opposite! don't really posh people wear 10 holey jumpers in the winter in their big houses they can't afford to heat?

If she really was posh, she’d be above fashion in that perennial stripy rugby top (collars turned up), boot cut indigo jeans, honey coloured highlights sloaney way.

OTM. This is exactly what I had in mind.

this might be a definition of a particular (& visible) branch of posh person i.e. a sloane ranger circa 1990's. i'm not sure you really seem to have a good idea of what a posh person might be like which, as grimley pointed out, was already quite broad and is changing all the time.

rather you have TOO MUCH of an idea of what poshness looks like.

As to the labels thing a Grace-type girl shops at places like Browns Focus for a few expensive things and mixes those with H&M and TopShop vests, but never buys cheap shoes unless they're Converse. She will also have received a Tiffany keychain for the flat keys or the car keys, whichever comes first.

http://www.radiotimes.com/content/features/bigbrother/

Then others said "yes but posh is a far broader concept"

Then I said "if it's so broad then it does not really describe anyone does it?"

And that's where we are now.

And as I said, if you did this about Lea or Lisa it would seem ten times worse.

Then Steve Morris did the link to adverts. "This is Steven Morris, out of the group New Order, and you're watching Big Brother's Big Mouth."

What about "Jade" which in mediaeval times was a scraggy old horse??

Oh, actually......

i notice how richard went from "if i see anyone bullying then i'll get involved" to "if i see anyone *physically* bullying...", yeah whatever.

more big ups for pete and glyn for telling grace/nikki what they thought of their actions. grace *still* just doesn't get this game does she. since when has winning it been about how good a back stabber you are?

lisa is still just a horrid little tit. needs to go next.

mikey still just a stupid sheep

imogen, where are you?

lea, gone right down in my books. goes on and on and on and on and on about how she's all 'tell people what i think of um' but alas she never does.

and suzie is just a pleasant gal who doesn't seem to want to hurt anybody. i'm getting a very pagan vibe from her persona.

in a camp voice, and with some kind of odd skin condition going on, by the look of it.

i still can't work out if russell brand is funny or not. it's a fine line, and i think he's gangled onto the wrong side.

Nikki not much better, but her naiveity, however faux it may be, does make her more bearable. Plus she's a fuck of a lot funnier. This is unfair of me, but it's not like these are real people or anything.

I like Lisa.

I think when Grace goes, she may well calm down and actually become more likeable again.

Yes, Grace hasn't 'targetted' her directly, even been more on an even keel with her. But the general vibe going round is stirring her up more.

-- Ronan (ronan.fitzgerald6NOSPA...), June 13th, 2006.

yes! this is quite likely.

i really hate suzie and thought that nikki and grace had every right to be complete bitches about it.

i don't think bb has jumped the shark -- i'm enjoyig it more than last year -- but with the suzie thing, the nth big-titted model-promo-girl-whatever, they totally dropped the ball, and i'm really miffed that grace and nikki are up for eviction.

i wouldn't bet against them putting sezer back in if it gets worse.

I like Lisa.

Not quite! I thought I must have missed so much of the programme because I didn't understand the hate. Well, I still think I must have missed a lot, because I'm still finding it difficult to form opinions of all of them!

Lisa is being sneaky - none of this would have happened if Grace had won that task. She also appears to re-stir each time the nominated pair start calming down.

BTW Nikki's teeth are fucked because of teenage anorexia problems.

eh?

must ... stop ... caring ...

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hmm. self-declared 'hampstead girl' who went to comp + lives among council estate kids is what i heard. daddy is rich. she has about one bit of 'ghetto' slang, 'man teef'.

and the school relies on her being sympathetic

hahaha! maybe to people with eating disorders, but ... hmm. she's not doing too well being sympathetic about anything else, is she? what a waste of an education :)

are you INSANE?

susie had to nominate two people, like grace and nikki have done every week until now. HAD to. that's the game. so...

1) if nikki or grace had been the golden housemate, whop would they have nominated? would it have been okay for those nominees to then treat nikki or grace like absolute shit?

2) who would nikki and/or grace rather susie have nominated?

nikki and grace are hatin the playa, not the game, and just seem spoilt, syupid and pathetic as a result. the scene where pete and glyn pointed out how cruel the girls were being, was ace. mikey's reply, 'its just a laugh', was pathetic.

just what was susie supposed to do?

now, that's confidence.

i get that a lot.

who would nikki and/or grace rather susie have nominated?

umm: i'm hazarding a guess here, but how about "not nikki and/or grace"? :) :)

does suzie actually eat? i'd have thought food would go badly with the skull-face look.

yeah, but wasn't he like her 'real' dad or something, and she hadn't seen him in years, and he was afraid she wouldn't like him because he was fat or bald or something?

http://sparky.thehold.net/pix/suzieBB.jpg

Is the whole task some sort of Tribute to Albania?

i do hope not. unless they actually BRING BACK JON TICKLE. that would ROCK.

Grace

well BUGGER ME.

further bugger-me-age, which could support what mark said earlier: apparently suzie was boasting about going into the house several weeks ago. hmm.

“So they definitely knew she was going in that house before she stood on that stage last Friday.”

hmm

i can't understand why they would fix it for her over anyone else but i do believe it was fixed.

http://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/news/story.jsp?story=694933

"There were 34 of us there and yet only three of us had actually got the tickets in KitKat bars. The others had bought them over eBay or from radio shows, which I don't think was fair,"

suzie and maxwell

http://images.thesun.co.uk/picture/0,,2006270514,00.jpg

But, well the hard evidence would be the order for the printed stuff.

It's a conundrum...

xpost why? another model, another boob job

Because that's who they pick thesedays, as stated by Davina, cited by Mark Grout (2006) because they have the most interesting lives and personalities, apparently.

On with the show.

plus he is an idiot. "this is what we call an indian summer."

Until we have the ability to change the selectors, there will be no representation of the people in the way the people represent themselves.

shake down.

no it doesn't.

i couldn't give a shit if it's fixed or not, to be honest, it's still Big Brother.

i care if it's fixed. i'd LOVE ch4 to get shit for this.

Hence the need to start with even greater numbers of contestants and the higher walk out rate.

(well: suzy, maxwell, grace and a zillion other fame-hungry wannabes for a start.)

WE DON'T PUT IT ON THE TELLY!

hah. brilliant!

who was that that got up and went into the loo naked?

they should wear nametags on their asses tbh

i'm watching "big mouth" half-cut. russell brand is very funny after some guinnesses and vodka.

http://televisionreview.blogspot.com/2006/06/here-comes-sun-phew-what-scorcher.html

ignore the weather rambling pre-amble

Nikki (without the capitals): "I like suze. Richard is just trying to wind me up.."

later...

Richard: "Oh I love this task, it's lovely to wind them two up..."

Yr covert activity aint too great when even Nikki has sussed you.

nikki: she chose me because of my lowly upbringing
grace: no, it couldn't been that 'cause she chose me too...

saucer of milk for grace...

oh, was also talk of Goldengate inside the house.

"there's a bee in the pool, there's a bee in the pool..."

link to the completed "golden ticket" ebay auctions..

In full: Group's task failings
Day 29, 07:52 BST - by Neil Wilkes

The housemates failed this week's 'State of Susie' task after violating the rules 33 times. The group had been allowed to incur just two fails in order to pass the task.

The rules:

1. Pledge Allegiance: Whenever the fanfare sounded, citizens had to stand in front of Susie's Statue and pledge allegiance to the State of Susie.

2. Sing Susie's Songs: The housemates were only expected to sing Susie's favourite songs - 'Living on a Prayer', 'You're Just Too Good To Be True', and 'I Like The Way You Move' by Bodyrockers. Singing any other songs constituted a fail.

3. Eat Susie's Food: Susie's favourite foods are lobster, poached salmon, and strawberries. These are the only foods which were permitted to be eaten for the duration of her reign. No other food was made available.

Rule violations on day one (Tuesday):

1) At 10:43, Nikki sang one line of an unauthorised song.

2) At 11:06, Richard sang 'Say A Little Prayer' by Aretha Franklin.

3) At 11:11, Pete sang one line from 'My Loving' by En Vogue.

4) At 11:30, Aisleyne sang "the moment I" from 'Say A Little Prayer'.

5) At 11:37, Pete sang 'Shut Up' by Black Eyed Peas.

6) At 12.09, Mikey sangs Avril Lavigne.

7) At 12.09, Pete sang 'Perfect Day'.

8) At 12.28, Glyn sang the line "are you ready?"

9) At 12:56, Mikey sang 'Earth Song' by Michael Jackson.

10) At 12.58, Pete sang the theme to 'The Pinky and the Brain' and was stopped by Mikey.

11) At 12.58, Mikey continued singing the theme to 'The Pinky and the Brain'.

12) At 13.13, Glyn sang at a passing Helicopter.

13) At 13.27, Glyn sang "oh my darling Clementine".

14) At 14:57, Imogen sang the Big Brotherhood Song.

15) At 15:00, Mikey made up a song about strawberries.

16) At 15:17, Glyn sang 'I've Got The Music In Me'.

17) At 16.42, Glyn sang 'Hey Mr Elephant', a song from his red coat days.

18) At 18.36, Nikki and Lea shared some chocolate.

19) At 18.38, Aisleyne sang "Ride the Punani".

20) At 20.31, Glyn sang 'I Want To Be With You Everywhere'.

21) At 22.42, Nikki sang 'Let's Hear it for the Boy'.

22) At 22:45, Nikki sang the Tazmanian Devil song.

23) At 23.07, Nikki sang 'Fame' whilst dancing.

24) At 23.28, Nikki sang another unauthorised song again whilst dancing.

Rule violations on day two (Wednesday):

25) At 11.36, Aisleyne sang 'Area Codes' by Ludacris.

26) At 16.12, Pete and Glyn sang the themetune to Inspector Gadget.

27) At 16.47, Lisa sang "Can I touch the sky?"

28) At 17.05, Aisleyne sang 'Prince Charming' by Adam and the Ants.

29) At 17.09, Pete sang 'The Bare Necessities' from the Jungle Book.

30) At 17.10, Aisleyne sang "Breathe in Breathe out".

31) At 17.12, Pete sang 'A Spoonful of Sugar'.

32) At 17.14, Richard ate some choocolate.

9) At 12:56, Mikey sang 'Earth Song' by Michael Jackson.

10) At 12.58, Pete sang the theme to 'The Pinky and the Brain' and was stopped by Mikey.

11) At 12.58, Mikey continued singing the theme to 'The Pinky and the Brain'.

and this actually makes mikey's existence worthwhile. as does his song about strawberries.

on the show they made it look like this was the third and failing song, which makes it funnier, cos he was echoing them all saying 'JUST DON'T SING' when he did it.

It was very Glyn-like, he likes being nude.

nikki: she chose me because of my lowly upbringing

Classic Nikki line: "she doesn't like me because I grew up as COMMON SCUM"

Aisleyne has got to stop it with the Ali G-isms (none of which make the show, but still)

ha, cheers. yeah, i knew what i wrote was wrong and that the original was worse but i couldn't remember the exact words)

i can't see anything wrong with nikki's teeth. her chin, however...

Link to suze's purchase off ebay.

And I finally realised who Pete reminds me of... that guy from Press Gang... Dexter something??

"OI, GAMESMASTER!"

No, we did mention that. Several threads ago.

I was in the pub. What happened with Pete in the diary room then?

"OH MY GOD! I'M ON BIG BROTHER!!"

The evic is tonight.

Grace in "not as unpopular as Sezer" shockah.

Sezer seemed to ride the 'storm' out in his week out, will Grace manage to cope?

http://news.bbc.co.uk/media/images/39172000/jpg/_39172625_michelle300.jpg

Gerry, you read Digital Spy.

http://lostpedia.com/images/thumb/5/53/Henry_Gale.jpg/220px-Henry_Gale.jpg

HMMM?

Glynn: Lea's like Mrs. Robinson.

Mikey: Oos dat den?

Glynn: She's like a sexy older wooman.

Mikey: Do you know er, like?

This was only partly undermined by her actual interview.

The live feed shows everyone has calmed down, and Lisa having a pep talk from Nikki and Imogen in the loo.

props to Davina for telling Grace that nobody cared about her and Mikey.

Lisa had to be called into the diary room to calm down last night after getting into a heated row with Aisleyne.

The argument began when Aisleyne told Lea that she overheard one of the girls telling Grace to "do what [she] had to do" before she left, a phrase that Aisleyne interpreted as an instruction to soak Susie with water.

"We never fucking said that at all," Lisa snapped, her temper beginning to rise.

"Are you going to let me tallk?" asked Aisleyne, attempting to explain what she had heard.

"I didn't fucking tell her to do jack shit," Lisa insisted, now shouting and in physical reach of Aisleyne.

Susie begged the girls to drop the issue as it was now over, but Lisa continued to plead her innocence. "We ain't told her to fucking throw fucking cold water over her face."

"No matter if they told Grace or not, she made her own mind up," Mikey pointed out.

Richard then decided to intervene, claiming that Lisa had been "giggling" when Grace doused Susie, before performing an impression of an irate Lisa.

That appeared to be the final straw for Lisa, who picked up and threw Nikki's pink bicycle before storming into the bathroom.

"If you want to talk to me Lisa, come and talk to me," Richard told her. "Talk to me like a rational human being."

Big Brother promptly summoned Lisa to the diary room to cool off.

still. for fuck's sake, and so on.

Grace's water throwing was pretty bad too though, and calling Aisleyne a moose was kind of immature and embarassing.

The house needs some positivity.

(Expect comment to be retracted in several days, I think I said Grace was nice once.)

The water throwing was pure genius, Gracie's little legacy of discord and diviseiveness.

her water-throwing and name-calling were just embarrassing, too

thought this guy: Hotman Paris Almanac was australian? is he doing a dan perry or wot?

missed imogen saying "spunk"

yeah yr right. she def made a fool of herself with the water throwing mainly because you could tell she instantly regretted it. what was meant to be shocking and assertive ended up just looking pathetic.

Seems like 'fierce' is this year's fucking awful buzzword. Rad.

Lisa to go next, swiftly followed by future-cuckold Mikey and Imogen. I half-imagine that Imogen could have come out of this a whole lot better if she hadn't got involved in the Sezer-Grace axis of evil at the beginning.

It's embarrassing watching Mikey stumble into his new role as the rival alpha male to Richard, cf. when Nikki went up to him after her tantrum about him stealing her beer and he yelled NO I'M TALKING TO SOMEONE ELSE, YOU HAVE TO WAIT. And his SHUT THE FUCKING FUCK UP at Aislene when she (rightly) shouted at Grace post-water throw. Compare with Glyn growing up and becoming a man right before our very eyes.

me too, but i think her accent would suit the word well.

The Aus BB is rubbish this year, so most of us have turned to the UK one.

Are you saying that spunk suits her lips?

You perv.

If there is a more preening, self-satisfied dick-head than Richard on the planet I'll be amazed. What a complete fucking clown Mr Sensible made himself out to be.

Yay Imogen in the diary room!

Isn't it glorious! Such a delightful complementary viewing to the rest of the goings on, ie all the hissy fits and arguments.

Oh, and Grace's Mother has formally complained over the treatment by Davina of her daughter:

What did Imo do that was so funny in the diary room?

i thought richard was AWESOME when he started squealing back at Lisa, less awesome when he kept going ON and ON about it. ashleen fucking rocks. imogen is just pathetic, mikey is worse - grace really fucked them all over with the glass-of-water action, and telling them about it. and Lisa just needs to go now.

what i DO find funny is that that lot spend all their time backbiting about the 'weirdos' in the house, mostly accusing them of exactly the stuff they themselves are doing (this is probably obvious to everyone else but kinda revelatory to me).

pete rools.

the hilarious part was, there was a delay between grace getting to the door, and it opening, and she was stuck there lamely deflecting (am i bovvered?) the fracas she'd started. you could see a look of ABSOLUTE FUCKING BATSHIT PANIC in her eyes, and for a moment i wondered whether big brother was actually going to keep her in the house for another week, as some kind of massive headfuck, and she would have had to live with the consequences of her actions.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=Y356sq3iY4w&search=grace%20eviction

stevie OTM about grace's panic at not being allowed to escape the scene quickly enough.

I haven't really watched any of Big Brother since the World Cup started. For the first year ever, I don't really feel like I'm missing much if I don't watch it.

you could see a look of ABSOLUTE FUCKING BATSHIT PANIC in her eyes, and for a moment i wondered whether big brother was actually going to keep her in the house for another week, as some kind of massive headfuck, and she would have had to live with the consequences of her actions.

yes! i'm sure they were deliberately fucking with her, just for a few seconds.

anyway: about this "shite under the bed". WTF? tell more. it's looking like a slow shift [touches wood] so ...

Richard found something under his bed which he thinks is shite. BB looking at it to determine whether it's a) mud, b) something like a manky bit of chocolate cake (since we know Nikki's hoarding food in the bedroom) or c) actual shite.

Since he spoke to BB, Lisa has apparently twice admitted it's c) actual shite and it was c) actually her.

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1) i don't believe her for a second.

2) if it is true, however, she should be thrown out. after having her nose rubbed in it.

3) hey! there are a couple of cameras in that there house. i don't think it will be TOO difficult to ascertain the truth.

4) actually, even if it wasn't her: saying it was is deeply, deeply vile. horrid woman. GODDAMN, i'm always wrong about BB contestants at first.

Is it anorexia fluff maybe? I can't say I've noticed it on TV. She does intrigue me. When Mikey called her "spoilt" during her beer bottle tantrum the other day, Lea called him in on it and said she'd never been spoiled in all her life, in a way that suggested she'd talked to Lea about her upbringing. I do wonder how she ended up like that.

Richard's over-earnest peacemaking is getting on my tits now, and I'm one of the bigger Dickie apologists.

So has the shit story been confirmed yet? I've been down t'pub since 2:30, missed it all.

Lisa and Glyn were caught discussing noms, in an indirect fashion,so both get banned?

Davina talked about "Monday, they will be punished"...

so, maybe a more novel and interesting punishment.

In any case, Lisa will probably go this week, I reckon.

Imogen getting slightly more interesting? I find her voice quite 'nails on blackboard' but I don't think it's the welsh accent (I've known a few Welsh people with lovely voices, and it's one of the accents Dawn can do perfectly)

I have assumed it isn't actually hot enough that they need air-conditioning

xp a few of them have complained about the air con since being in there.

That's what I think. May be a close one.

New angle for Endemol:
Who goes? YOU DECIDE! Text RICHARD to 81??? to evict Richard. Text LISA to 81??? evict Lisa. Text BOTH OF THE CNUTS to 81??? and you get a double eviction and a shiny new housemate!

ainslene is needed on ilm rap threads.

I was curled up on his knee in my mums front garden, somebody asked him what he was doing and he said "I'm just holding my friend."

WTF?

Sorry.....

FIVE HOUSEMATES FACE PUNISHMENT - AND HAVE TO NOMINATE EACH OTHER FOR EVICTION

***Live on E4, Monday 19 June at 2.00pm***

At 2.00pm today, Big Brother will call ALL the housemates into the lounge for this week's nominations. Big Brother will remind them all that is against the rules for housemates to discuss their nominations with each other, and that any attempt to break these rules is taken very seriously.

Glyn, Imogen, Lea , Lisa and Nikki will be admonished by Big Brother for rule-breaking last week. They will not be allowed to nominate in the normal way. Instead, they will all be faced with a choice that they must make on the spot, in front of the group. They must not discuss their choice in any way and it must be their own decision.

Each of the five will be asked to choose one of their four fellow rule-breakers to face the public vote. The housemate/s with the most votes will definitely face the public vote this week. The rule-breakers cannot choose themselves and refusal to nominate will result in punishment.

The rest of the housemates - Aisleyne, Mikey, Pete, Richard and Susie - will then be called into the Diary Room to nominate in the usual manner, choosing the two people they want to face the public vote. The housemate/s who have already been nominated by the rule-breakers to face the public vote cannot be nominated again by the others in the Diary Room. All other housemates are eligible for nomination. The two or more housemates who receive the most votes in the Diary Room will join the rule-breaker/s to face eviction on Friday 23 June.

Notes to Editors:
" The results of the rule-breakers' nominations will be revealed to the house live after 2pm today.
" The results of the Diary Room nominations will be revealed on Big Brother's Little Brother tomorrow (Tuesday 20 June) at 7.30pm on E4.
" Voting lines will open during Big Brother's Little Brother tomorrow night.

Glyn wd nom: Nikki
Imogen wd nom Nikki
Lea wd nom Nikki
Lisa wd nom Lea
Nikki wd not nom, she'd go off on one and say "GO ON THEN PUNISH ME I DONT CARE!!!"

So, Nikki and Lea.

Aisleyne nom Lisa and Mikey
Mikey nom Aisl and Lisa
Pete nom Susie and Richard
Richard nom Lisa and Mikey
Susie nom Lisa and Mikey.

So, Nikki, Lea, Mikey and Lisa, I reckon.

That was complicated....

IMOGEN MUST GO, but she won't get nominated I RECKON, so LISA MUST GO!

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would be quite happy if mikey were to go, too, though

Latest pic from house.

The law-abiding housemates were then allowed to nominate privately in the Diary Room, able to vote for anyone apart from Nikki. The two most-nominated, to be revealed on tomorrow's Big Brother's Little Brother, will join the disgraced model in the public vote.

Lisa will most probably go, so who knows after that...?!!

probably Richard season.

Yeah, my guess too.

Richard's had a lucky escape this week

That interview on friday was one of the rudest I've seen Davina do for a while, both verbally and non-verbally. She generally covers it better than that when she dislikes someone. Grace didn't seem to show any redeeming features. That "honesty" seemed more like "I've hurt people, I don't give a shit", which isn't really the same thing at all. Those who said her nastiness was lack of self-awareness may have been too generous.

There's no pleasing folk. I thought she at least asked the right questions and gave her the option of bluffin or 'fessin.

-- Seriously, Try Punching This Guy in the Face and See What Happens (miltonpinsk...), June 19th, 2006.

She certainly deflected the questions as well as she could have done. I guess it depends what you want to see in that interview. It made me wonder why I watch them, really. I realised there is a part of me that wants to see people like Grace say "oh no.... I was horrible wasn't I? I'm so sorry. I'm going to be nice for ever now". That clearly isn't going to happen. I'm not sure why I want it to.

Which was fair enough. I quite like her again.

you misspelled amniosity!

Actually, my theory is that Davina was trying to chum Grace along - see the whole ridiculous exchange about shoes. PLEASE NOTE when a girl compliments another girl on shoes, the subtext is pretty easily followed. This one went: D compliments G, G accepts but says shoes are unattainable, D carries on, G says no REALLY unobtainable = G doesn't much care for D but tolerance, easy. D looks less alpha, more trying-to-please than G.

davina asked where she got them, grace told her belgium, davina said about people having nice things and you ask where they got them and they say "new york, darling" and grace seemed a bit (more) embarrassed/eager to please and said "no, you CAN get them (without much trouble)!" and something about them being on sale

PLEASE NOTE when a girl compliments another girl on shoes, the subtext is pretty easily followed.

is a v depressing thought

Basically, if Lisa had nominated Glyn, they'd all have been up. But she voted Nikki. So, Nikki's started on Lisa. And Lisa is trying hard to turn the other cheek. OK, that's not true.

Grace was not self-effacing about boots, she was all 'they're great but sadly unattainable by you' - it is exactly the same thing that boys obsessed with limited edition singles do to other boys, but with shoes.

True. But would Nikki have nominated Lisa in those circumstances?

Best bit of trivia: Mickey is half Iranian. His Iranian mum is going to kick the shit out of him for his Loaded-reader audition reel.

-- suzy (theartskooldisk...), June 19th, 2006.

"pretty easily followed"... suzy, I think you could spend a whole thread just trying to make me understand this one. (okay, I get the example, that's a start).

Actually, the boot thing did seem like a token nice comment in amongst all the rest. Which I suppose is what you were saying, just in a way that is somewhat beyond me.

Oh my, I was thinking exactly the same when I watched it too. Poor kid.

I really liked Glyn's "what gives one person the right to make another persons life hell" comment about bullying.

no-one else has anything to match this

"Text messages can keep us occupied for hours," Nikki confirmed.

suzy?

Poor Marjane Satrapi! Hasn't she suffered enough without being dragged into this as well?

-- RJG (RJ...), June 20th, 2006.

it is fantastic. pity aisleyne and lea are vile though, kind of spoils it?

nikki imogen lisa and mikey are all up.

whatever happened about the crap under the bed?

The "shit" was just a mysterious stain.

[smiles]

Mikey and Imogen: who's have thought it?

Imogen & Mikey about to get it on! Maybe, just maybe they'll bring out the nicer side of each other. They're both dull as mud but I can see them being a likeable couple - much better than being Sezer/Grace's lapdogs.

Even so, prob. Imogen. Waddya reckon? I'm not really so bothered. I don't like or dislike any of them that strongly.

It's going to be quite exciting to have an eviction night that isn't a forgone conclusion.

Although the 'anti-girl' lobby (clue: they're all girls) vote may be split.

This is a 'before nominations' poll result, but the anti-Lisa vote seems overwhelming.

I dunno, Lisa seemed suddenly human this week after the 'drop noms'. half pissed off with Nikki's over-reaction, half genuinely trying to make it up to her. Also recoginising that Nikki'll probably stay in due to having a 'wicked personality'.

-- Roughage Crew (miltonpinsk...), June 21st, 2006.

Glyn blew his nose. 17000 ilxors thought it was the best thing they had ever seen.

I imagine Lisa is favourite to go, but CH4 seem to be showing her more favourably at the moment, and whilst Nikki is funny, she is also a touch tiresome.

it's been four-odd weeks and she needs to do a little more than be pretty; risks becoming female mikey.

Blimey, what happened there?

http://vote.sparklit.com/poll.spark/990637

Not greatly surprising...

mrs fiendish says she heard a rumour somewhere - maybe DS? - that they're going to do some kind of "two-houses" thing, maybe along the lines of the rich/poor divide in BB3?

Sometimes I can imagine that living in the BB house is just like some of the team building days I've had with work.

Meanwhile, this gave me the giggletits:

http://img154.imageshack.us/img154/6141/gracehull9od.jpg

"everybody knows this is nowhere" is a shoo-in for thread 5 title.

this is interesting - there were several comments at the start of the show that this was the smallest house so far, that there was less living area than before. given that the actual buildings haven't shrunk i'm guessing that the main living areas are so small because there are a lot of hidden rooms...

Big Brother 2006 (UK) Thread 5: Everybody Knows This Is Nowhere