ME AND ALAN MCGEE

Anyway...

Alan says that we will recognise him immediately. So here I am thinking that he's this ogre or something.

He's actually incredibly normal looking. I thought he was going to have two heads or something! He was very tall, though.

I made him dance even though he didn't want to. I think I really freaked him out, because he thought I was going to punch him, and was quiet surprised that I was so amused (read: DRUNK) by it all.

And then Suzy harranged Alan until he played Bauhaus. Mwah hah hah hah, and we floated around doing the bat dance. Hooray!

My god, am I hungover. Me, Suzy and Daren managed to put away two pints of vodka between us.

is death disco any good? deathdiscodublin keeps taking place, and I keep considering going, but wondering if it will be all a bit trend.

does BP Fallon hang out at the one in London?

... I wonder what 'hang 10' might mean in this context?

i cant decide whether to go to bodyrockers or richie hawtin at the end or this weird party in stoke newington with (apparently) judge jules(!!!!!!)

the same dilemma next week with rephlex disco assault system vs the wizard jeff mills ----- except i have tix, and d'arcangelo are playing. woooo! why is Ed being reticent about such a thing. and mr kilroy for that matter?

Cause it's like five freaking quid to get in. That's an outrage. Then again, Suzy did score drink tickets, so I guess we broke even.

and no - your blurred recollection is not exactly what happened - at all. but your story is more interesing so let's go with that one. ta.

I have lost a lot of weight. Thanks! Though if I don't stop with the vodka, it's all going back on. Poo.

My memory of the night is indeed pretty patchy. I know that Suzy found you first, and then she dragged me over and made me say hello when all I wanted to do was dance. Usually, when Suzy drags me over to introduce me to someone, it's a member of Suede, so I tend to try and avoid it.

We did know who you were from the getgo. Suzy was playacting not knowing who you were, cause... never mind. I really wanted to give you a chance to see what you'd be like IRL, cause people can be very different on the internet. Like I said, I had a good time. But you can't be surprised that we think it's NEWS that we met you and you were perfectly normal considering the way that you act here.

In Alan's defense, he did not say that he didn't like you or appreciate you or anything, he just said that he really doesn't need defending, and wishes that you weren't quite so ... I can't remember the exact words he used, but ... *extreme* in your defense of him.

Anyway, I'm not trying to cause trouble or make anyone angry at me, even though I've probably made you angry, and him angry for repeating his words. I was under the impression that he had said this to you in the past, apologies if he hasn't.

BTW, oh yes Bauhaus was played. Bela Lugosi's Dead. There were witnesses.

My housemate is home, so I gotta give him his computer back.

As for the gameplaying - fuck it. Why do think I'm no longer playing it? It's boring and it's for liars. Everyone wants to be liked. It's all a bit high school for me. I'll stick to writing and go back to the happy place I was before I came over here and started meeting up with the music industry people. I'm a talented writer. I'm not a talented bullshitter. I was a fool. I am no longer a fool. There is no need to illuminate me, Kate. It's happened long time ago.

And no it was not news. It was just some drunken people in a club. Sorry.

*shrugs shoulders*

See you. Thanks for the dance.

that's all, anthony!

Sorry, I am not actually that obsessed with celebrities in the flesh. I am obsessed with the concept of celebrity, I am obsessed with the idea of celebrities themselves, but when they're actually there, in the way, at the bar or knocking me over on the dance floor when all I want to do is dance, well... celebrities can just bloody well go away then.

Next time I'll bring more money.

I think we were the only people in the place with *that* kind of Special Coke.

Roland Bolan = funny. I talked to him a bit, not knowing who he was, and couldn't figure out why he kept going on about his father, like, wondering if he had some sort of Freudian problem or something. Felt like a bit of a fool when Suzy rescued me.

Ugh. The entire left side of my body is black and blue from when some dirty dronerock boy collided with me. Ouch.

Whoah! Suzy must have SUPERPOWAHS! Can you imagine the strength it must take to shift Kevin Shields?

Alan thinks Paul is a great guy; his earnestness is part of the package. I thought Paul was interesting and fun to talk to, locating him easily after AmcG told me 'you can't miss Paul because he's the tallest person in the whole world.' No wind-up on my part, although K said that night that she liked Paul because he's so easy to wind up. The Bauhaus happened at 2.45 AM long after Paul had said his goodbyes (and made mock-horror faces as K dragged him onto the dancefloor). I wanted to hear Bauhaus because a) Kate and I have Bauhaus issues and b) my best friend from university was the world's hugest Bauhaus fan, died recently, and would have loved to have been there in a room that used to be Syndrome. Waaaah!

I do have magic powers, but only for summoning barmen. There is a club voodoo which renders others invisible when I am trying to attract service. Nicole is right - I could never shift Kevin Shields bodily but a simple 'scuse me, please' shifted him nicely.

Rolan B fun to talk to, has a bit of a downer on LA and when BP Fallon played 20th Century Boy, made him dance to it. BP Fallon rolls an excellent zoot. But der Thcweam? It's not that I didn't see them; they didn't see me.

Gareth - the famous person issue is interesting and you deserve an explanation. I've always mixed in circles like that, mostly by virtue of my job and the interests which led me to do it. If I like someone's work, I speak to them and usually say so. Most of the time there's not much more to it than small talk, but after a few times meeting people out, conversation happens the same way it does whith any other person you like and see around a lot.

The day after, I had a very huge case of bottle flu and have only recovered through the magic of NEW FLAT RENOVATION.

in other words, the 'famous' part is irrelevant, what fascinates me is people who hang around with anyone they don't really have time for, especially when there are so many great people out there waiting to be met

Oh, and you might slag off a person on an image basis, like we all do, and then meet them and find out they are not hellish at all...

i didn't mean this...i meant when people don't seem to like someone 'in person', but still stick around.

aahh - but suzy deep down i wanted to dance - i had to give kate something. i'm not really that easy to wind up. just depends how bored i am. in a mind numbingly boring job i can be horrified but am not bored then the world could blow up and nothing would happen.

and well - famous people, i just have nothing to say, if i am a fan - though i did ask j mascis about jenny jones. which he responded nothing. which was the answer i watned.

hasselhoff on the other hand...

Going to temporary home, bath waiting...

It's always a possibility. (Anyway, I think D**mp****l took what, only a couple of weeks to return again? WHAT FUN.)

Anyway, we wound up back at Michael Raedecker's afterparty with the free booze and Seb from NERD on decks, plus a huge chunk of my friends and the gazillion-minute remixes of Megacolon and Emerge, plus Peaches. As Kate would say, an ahhhhrt pahhhrty.

Miracle bleu! I have no hangover...

instead i'm reading more about my hero andy kaufman, listening to the new brave captain and going to watch rushmore and then write........

what a lovely sunday i'm having!!

Because I am a misanthrope. I don't actually LIKE anyone. I probably secretly hate even my closest friends. That doesn't mean that I don't love them to bits, it just means that I am a misanthrope.

I am actually slightly amused by my total oblivion to the presence of my supposed idols. I guess it's a tribute to my drunkenness if it seemed normal to the point of non-noteworthy. But I think I have a secret fear that I am becoming a liability to my band if I'm rude. Then again, I'm a liability anyway.

I am not allowed to go out on Saturday nights any more, because it renders Sunday morning rehearsals so impossible. Get no work done when you've got bottleflu. Hope yer feeling better, Suzy!

COOL!

unless there are 2 Kates in the lollies?

ummm...if it jogs your memory, i'm quite small and skinny, canadian, dark haired, girl. i probably talked about belle and sebastian a lot.

well, you were really nice to me so i don't think i'd remember you as a cunt!

i'm doing well, thanks! how are things with you? i'm currently in canada but probably moving over to london or dublin in the next year.

yeah, it *is* a really small internet. i'm wondering how many other people there are on mailing lists and message boards who i've met in real life but just don't know yet. so far the count is 2!

I am in a BAD mood today. Someone cheer me up!

Sort of like the Andy's Chest thread on Sloannet.

OK, about that bit, at least. Inappropriate shags on Ed anmd Suzy's carpet not withstanding...

I just got an email response from courtney love's boyfriend ex record exec (say that three times fast) who wants me to send him racebannon cds (hooray! very cool.)

After a long and booze/drug addled courtship, the Bannon and Secretly Canadian exchanged vows and bodily fluids in a secretive ceremony, consecrating the marriage with the subsequent shotgun wedding present IN THE GRIPS OF THE LIGHT. Laid out in one week in Lincoln, Nebraska, with Mike Mogis at the helm (famous for the work with his groups Bright Eyes and Lullaby for the Working Class, in addition to lending his hands and ears to Songs: Ohia, The Faint, and Cursive), IN THE GRIPS OF THE LIGHT is 56 minutes of focused and contained musical chaos,the milkman's baby born of distortion, screams, emotion, distress, dismay and frenzied destruction. Frantic yet ambient, massively heavy yet intelligent, IN THE GRIPS is not only a griot for the Hoosier felons serving time in the middle of nowhere, it is also the soundtrack of the latchkey kid on downers in all of us.

2xLP released by Level Plane Records.

Release date: January 22, 2002.

SECRETLY CANADIAN

1) Ed is DJ-ing in a Toilet! And actual toilet, yes!
2) If the band that's playing is the band I think it is, then oops, I shagged their drummer by accident.

I've just joined another band. Hooray!

If this is a movie, can it have naked Andrew Scotts in it, please?

I'm not even entirely sure that it's really them. But I'm very tempted to go and find out. Except he blew off a second "date" to go and record at the BBC. Feh. Clearly his priorities are all WRONG.

(who needs Popbitch when you've got IL*?)

(has anything on this thread/il* *NOT* been in poor taste?)

Let's see if this works.

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If you see this man at Death Disco, point and laugh. (at Kate, for having such poor taste in men when plastered.)

Kate, I'd keep quiet about your rug burn, Ed doesn't know! He thought you took your conquest back to yours...

hahaha - i got invited to that show. i reviewed them once in another life time.

This thread needs some Doomie input.

AKA

However, its rebirth might be found in white people playing old records. Very McGee. David Holmes street mixes!

Without wanting to get all 'och, aye it waer better in the olde days'...

For me, the JMC was Jim, William, Douglas and Bobby. That's not going to happen. And short of talking Murray back in, the best it could be would be the five piece well-heeled "head-on" line-up.

That's all fine, but the Black Rebel Motorcycle Club made those records in the absence of the real band, and a perfectly fine job they did.

I heard Jim's version of "and your bird can sing" and that was good too.

See, it could be good.

Is "good" enough though?

No they bloody well didn't! They did an awful botch job of watered down put-apple-juice-in-the-jack-daniels-bottle version of JAMC.

If the JAMC could come back and be even half as good as they were, even circa Stoned and Dethroned that would be better than the bloody BRMC.

But that said, I think it's unlikely. So I'll just go and sit in the corner with my Howling Bells record.

YOU ARE MAD, Mark! Blimey...

They did a perfectly fine job of continuing the downward trajectory that the JMC could have taken. I quite liked the first BRMC album, didn't hear any of the second, and wasn't fussed about the "Howl" record apart from quite liking what I heard.

That reads like a major backtrack, I know, but that is what I meant and I can see it didn't read like that.

I love that album.

(I did get Munki some time later, can't remember anything about it hardly. Should I re-persevere?)

(xpost now you're thinking like I do)

I have a great big soft spot for Munki, but I know I'm one of the few. If you love S&D, then Munki is like the uppity sister to that album. (JAMC always put out "up record" then "down record" in shifts.) They get the whole family singing on some of the songs, which is really cute - lots of Hope and Sister Vanilla.

I'd like them to reform, as long as they only play the hits - nothing post 1992, please. I don't care if that sounds rockist or negative or anything - you just KNOW that any new stuff would at best be a weak rehash of their good stuff. I want 25 mins of In A Hole and Upside Down, full stop.

He wasn't quite this much of a tosser in that Magpie Eyes book was he?

I got the Paolo Hewitt book as well. Umm, don't bother with it.

so is there any truth to this rumour ive just imagined up about mcgee paying an ill-advised visit to The Walton Hop in the mid70s?

I like Paid in Full as much as the next guy, but I'd say what strikes people first about it these days is how spare, simple, and limited in scope rap production used to be.

Over the course of his entire career, among the hundreds (thousands? add up all the people in bands on Creation/Elevation/Poptones etc) of people he has worked with, how many black musicians has he given support (money, time, publicity, whatever) to?

The drummer in the Libertines? the guy from the Boo Radleys? Help me out here, my knowledge isn't great.

So like I guess if I imagine a teenaged rap fan listening to something like that for the first time, I don't imagine the first thought just being "frenetic energy! aggressive percussion!" -- it couldn't help but include "hey, rap used to sound pretty different." That's true of listening to most any genre across that span of time, leave alone one that was really young and developing.

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WHAT A DICK
-- chaki (chaki), Friday, September 13, 2002 10:56 PM (5 years ago) Bookmark Link

^^knows the score

Hardcore/You know the score/Rhymes so good they deserve an encore

I would love to read a warts and all article about greatest label ever POPTONES. A Magpie Eyes pt. 2. Just reading and boggling at their discography would probably amuse me enough.

yes. only *even longer* than 'magpie'.

i think it goes something like.. joe foster finds a whole lot of cool bands to release and alan mcgee fucks up the whole deal. JF leaves the label and everything subsequently released makes baby amphetamine look like genius

^commission this dude asap

actually that's unfair, baby amphetamine were genius in a way

as for suzy - yeah, we've met - but could you not talk to me again? you are interesting, lively, etc.....but i'm just not into people, interacting, i'm more into observation. and i felt bad 'cause several times i wanted to escape your constant chatter.
-- doomi, Friday, 13 September 2002 21:09 (5 years ago) Bookmark Link

ice col'

http://www.hsgrafix.com/images/portfolio/mr-freeze.jpg

^^^doomie

How did I know this would be another pointless/creepy/in-jokey Dom revival?

Maybe you're PSYCHIC

You had a 50/50 on it being gershy. Doomie was a much better class of troll that Dom, some real fire and inspiration there (Nice guy too, in person).

revival time. Some threads just never got the due consideration they deserved.
-- Ed (dali), Wednesday, September 10, 2003 11:43 PM (4 years ago)

he was a complete choad online but whatever.

xpost

I like the idea that Dom thinks that I am so wise and munificent that one post I made 4 years ago is like a constitutional amendment justifying his tedious daily grind of hard working thread revives.

You have dreadlocks

OK enough of this shit.

"you have dreadlocks". Dom, that's just embarrassing. Raise your game for fuck's sake.