The incredibly overrated Jay-Z

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Wazzup with that?
A somewhat-above-average rapper celebrating girls, girls, girls and crappy sportswear gets appointed hip hop holiness.
I admit that he hires the right producers, but pleeeeeeeeease!!!!!!! Can someone tell me what the deal is here? What is so fucking, transcendentally, unmissably great about Jay-Fucking-Z?

― Janus K, Wednesday, 27 November 2002 23:37 (twenty-three years ago)

It's the way he tells them.

― Tom (Groke), Wednesday, 27 November 2002 23:38 (twenty-three years ago)

like - his flow or what?

― Jay K, Wednesday, 27 November 2002 23:41 (twenty-three years ago)

Yeah. FWIW I think Jay-Z is overrated, but not by much. I like him best when he's almost, almost speaking - when his flow is barely perceptible, like on the nastiest bits of "The Takeover" or most of "H to the Izzo".

― Tom (Groke), Thursday, 28 November 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

girls, girls, girls are worth celebrating.

― mitch lastnamewithheld (mitchlnw), Thursday, 28 November 2002 00:03 (twenty-three years ago)

[insert Pitman reference here]

― Tom (Groke), Thursday, 28 November 2002 00:06 (twenty-three years ago)

Elton John got married mate, you get meh?

― Chewshabadoo (Chewshabadoo), Thursday, 28 November 2002 00:16 (twenty-three years ago)

Pitman > Jay-Z, quite obviously. And is it just me, or is "Girls Girls Girls" a rip-off of "I've Got A Girlfriend Eveywhere" by the Lou Bega?

― Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Thursday, 28 November 2002 00:35 (twenty-three years ago)

blueprint is a great great album

jay is marginally overrated

just blaze is fuckin ace, check the beanie sigel album

― gareth (gareth), Thursday, 28 November 2002 00:38 (twenty-three years ago)

okay, i agree that his deliverance on 'h to tha izzo' and 'girls...' is kinda on the spot. but what about his new album? you heard that? we might be acknowledging, but we are NOT impressed.....

― Jay K (Jay K), Thursday, 28 November 2002 00:54 (twenty-three years ago)

I guess the use of the word "fucker" is a starting point. At his best he makes me giggle which is what he ought to do.

― naked as sin (naked as sin), Thursday, 28 November 2002 02:19 (twenty-three years ago)

Jay-Z "fucker" < DMX "cocksucker"

― Nate Patrin (Nate Patrin), Thursday, 28 November 2002 05:00 (twenty-three years ago)

where the hell is trife?

― James Blount (James Blount), Thursday, 28 November 2002 08:08 (twenty-three years ago)

I honestly think The Blueprint is very, very, very overrated (I like "Takeover," "Izzo" and maybe "Girls, Girls, Girls" - thats about all)

Miss the days of Volume 1: In My Lifetime (weird how AMG gave it 5/5 stars though!) and Vol 2, when the album tracks were as good as the singles. That new "duet" w/ Beyonce is horrible, haven't heard the album

Oh and has anyone noticed how he's totally shite about all his album titles (except for reasonable doubt)? the gift and the curse - wtf ???

― V, Thursday, 28 November 2002 13:10 (twenty-three years ago)

just blaze is indeed great

also liking kayne west of late

― bob zemko (bob), Thursday, 28 November 2002 13:16 (twenty-three years ago)

just blaze

and here

― gareth (gareth), Thursday, 28 November 2002 13:28 (twenty-three years ago)

Ahh..Jay Z. Why oh why is this fellow hailed as the best mc? It's 'cause he's got the bling. Though Reasonable Doubt was great, he's become a caricature of himself. Like the woman he describes in the terrific "D'Evils," He's been fed money "until [his] shit's started to make sense." I don't care whether he owns his own company--he's a frickin slave to capitalism and this latest piece of shit album is more than enough evidence that he's sold his soul. I think he should lay of the Alize and Hennesey and take a listen to K-os before he's completely done. Just watching him walking into some awards show wearing a Che Guevera t-shirt with a giant gold pendant repeatedly smacking against Che's head was enough for me. Making tons of cash is hardly revolutionary. Making tons of cash and then using your position to SAY SOMETHING is.

― cybele, Thursday, 28 November 2002 22:53 (twenty-three years ago)

he's saying "make lots of money and celebrate girls!"

(i gave disc one of bp2 a very quick listen today and yeah, it's not overwhelmingly great, but something very special *does* happen to "03 b&c" when you're hearing it as an album track and not a single.)

― mitch lastnamewithheld (mitchlnw), Thursday, 28 November 2002 23:21 (twenty-three years ago)

he's saying "make lots of money and celebrate girls!"

He's got a very odd way of "celebrating" 'em, if "Girls, Girls, Girls" is anything to go by...

― Daniel_Rf (Daniel_Rf), Friday, 29 November 2002 00:41 (twenty-three years ago)

listen to k-os? are you serious?

― m, Friday, 29 November 2002 00:43 (twenty-three years ago)

Yeah, he's overrated. I got the Blueprint for $3. It's worth 3 bucks but anything past $6 is pushing it... Nice production but I can't stand the way Jay is always chuckling to himself!!

And I'm avoiding Blueprint 2 like the plague after all the nasty things people have had to say. But "Poppin' Tags" and "What They Gonna Do" are fun.

― original bgm, Friday, 29 November 2002 00:47 (twenty-three years ago)

I think K-os is extremely talented. Have you heard his album? Live, he's phenomenal.

― cybele, Friday, 29 November 2002 01:20 (twenty-three years ago)

Sounding sort of like the Velvet Underground = EVIL, DERIVATIVE
Sounding quite a bit like Notorious B.I.G. = BEST MC EVAR

(note that I am hating for pure aesthetic reasons this time and not some rockist anti-bling silliness ok pls thx.)

― Nate Patrin (Nate Patrin), Friday, 29 November 2002 03:38 (twenty-three years ago)

Have people been sounding like Biggie for over thirty years? Will the Source plaster "RAP IS BACK!" on their cover in 2027 as a result of an mc that sounds like Biggie?

― James Blount (James Blount), Friday, 29 November 2002 03:45 (twenty-three years ago)

Did people go multiplatinum sounding like the Velvet Underground less than two years after they ceased to exist?

― Nate Patrin (Nate Patrin), Friday, 29 November 2002 03:52 (twenty-three years ago)

Ahem, David Bowie - "Queen Bitch"

― James Blount (James Blount), Friday, 29 November 2002 03:53 (twenty-three years ago)

Oops

― Nate Patrin (Nate Patrin), Friday, 29 November 2002 03:54 (twenty-three years ago)

But that was British! Nobody bought it in VU's home country! That don't count!

(translation: my theory is crumbling rapidly and I am desperate to salvage it)

― Nate Patrin (Nate Patrin), Friday, 29 November 2002 03:56 (twenty-three years ago)

United Kingdom - John Cale's home country

:^P

― James Blount (James Blount), Friday, 29 November 2002 03:57 (twenty-three years ago)

"not some rockist anti-bling silliness"

Utter foolishness. To be "anti-bling" does not necessarily equal "rockist," nor does it mean I'm silly. The "I've gotta support jiggy rap in order to make it seem like I know a little something something about hip hop" attitude is so bloody tired. Check the underground people. Jay-Z and his pop chart compadres aren't the only shit that's hot. The man aint untouchable, seen?

― cybele, Friday, 29 November 2002 04:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Well fuck. Oh, hey, look, there's a... spaceship... uh... there! (points, distracts Blount, rapidly changes subject)

Jay-Z's a Biggie disciple who raps over Tupac beats! For that alone he is a veritable master of chutzpah.

cybele, I actually put that reference in (sort of sarcastically) because every time I post about underground rap and how awesome it is I get laughed at for being a granola backpacker or some shit.

― Nate Patrin (Nate Patrin), Friday, 29 November 2002 04:03 (twenty-three years ago)

No problem. I teach at a college in Montreal(a CEGEP--if you live in Quebec and know what it is)--age range is 17-22. A large number of my students are big hip hop fans--as am I. They, however, unlike folks on this board and most journalists (it seems), are able to see right through the lame corporate shit.

― cybele, Friday, 29 November 2002 04:18 (twenty-three years ago)

you think he really sounds like biggie?

― original bgm, Friday, 29 November 2002 05:11 (twenty-three years ago)

Maybe. I'm pretty sure he thinks he sounds like Biggie.

― Nate Patrin (Nate Patrin), Friday, 29 November 2002 06:02 (twenty-three years ago)

haha, fair enough.

― original bgm, Friday, 29 November 2002 07:52 (twenty-three years ago)

The "I've gotta support jiggy rap in order to make it seem like I know a little something something about hip hop" attitude is so bloody tired. Check the underground people. Jay-Z and his pop chart compadres aren't the only shit that's hot.

I've checked the underground. I have tons of underground rap records. But a lot of the time, I'd rather listen to Illmatic or Stankonia or Missy or Blueprint I or Nappy Roots or 'Clipse or 36 Chambers or whatever.

Not to mention the fact that the underground, while it does have a lot of great acts, also has scores and scores of terrible, terrible garbage.

― polyphonic (polyphonic), Friday, 29 November 2002 08:14 (twenty-three years ago)

Probably my favourite thing about Jay-Z is that he's funny and slightly menacing at the exact same time - his jokes always have a nasty bite, and his threats'n'boasts are always clever and comic. What makes The Blueprint so brilliant is - among other things - the fact that it's this conflation from almost beginning to end.

Also it's what Jay-Z *does to a groove* with is flow that often makes those grooves so addictive. One of the things that makes me love "It's Hot (Some Like It Hot)" so inordinantly is that there's this awesome tension created between the groove and Jay-Z's rapping - you can almost hear sparks flying of them as they rub together.

― Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Friday, 29 November 2002 08:48 (twenty-three years ago)

Jay-Z :: Biggie = Anxiety of Influence at its best!
Also Ja Rule :: Tupac (as vs. Nas :: Tupac)

― Sterling Clover (s_clover), Friday, 29 November 2002 17:51 (twenty-three years ago)

life after death = 5 mics

― boxcubed (boxcubed), Saturday, 30 November 2002 21:20 (twenty-three years ago)

like Pavement, I find Jay-Z's smug refusal to display any effort distasteful. However, he can get a whuh whuh when he tries.

― Anthony Miccio (Anthony Miccio), Monday, 2 December 2002 00:54 (twenty-three years ago)

get a "fuck you"?

― Sterling Clover (s_clover), Monday, 2 December 2002 06:35 (twenty-three years ago)

one year passes...

This is kinda funny:

"Beyonce: I am in love with my boyfriend, he's great.
Jay-Z: Hi. I'm rich."

― jaymc (jaymc), Saturday, 25 September 2004 04:17 (twenty-one years ago)

THAT ARTICLE IZ TOTALLY RETARDED
1) STYLUS MAGAZINE JUST FOUND OUT ITS COOL 2 HATE JAY-Z
2) THEY HATE HIM TOO MUCH
3) 4 THE WRONG REASONS
4) THiS THREAD IS TERRIBLE
5) NOONE MAKES ANY GOOD POINTS
6) THINGS LIKE JAY-ZEEZER RNT JAY-Z'S FAULT, XCEPT APPEALING TO WHITE PEOPLE
7) THERE ARE THINGS WRONG WITH JAY, BUT NOT ONE OF THEM IS BROUGHT UP IN STYLUS OR THIS THREAD
8) HIS MAIN PROBLEM IS THAT AFTER ANNOUNCING HIS RETIREMENT, INSTEAD OF HOLING UP FOR TWO YEARS AND DROPPING A DEADLY SERIOUS BOMB THAT CAN COMPETE IN REALITY WITH AND TRANSCEND THE PROBLEMS OF THE SOUTH, HE IS CURRENTLY ON A TOUR WITH R. KELLY, THAT SICK WONDERFUL FUCK, CALLED THE BEST OF bOTH WORLDS, AN ALBUM THAT DROPPED A LONG LONG TIME AGO. CAN SOMEONE FILL ME IN ON THIS? WHY IS HE ON SUCH A TOUR?

― $CORPIUM11, Saturday, 25 September 2004 04:34 (twenty-one years ago)

jay's best album was reasonable doubt followed by hard knock life. since then, hes been a lazy git on the mic.

― splooge (thesplooge), Saturday, 25 September 2004 04:36 (twenty-one years ago)

One of the reader responses has an undeniable point - I wouldn't brag that my nation favors Less Than Jake over anyone.

― miloauckerman (miloauckerman), Saturday, 25 September 2004 04:36 (twenty-one years ago)

omg that article is hilarious

― manthony m1cc1o (Anthony Miccio), Saturday, 25 September 2004 04:54 (twenty-one years ago)

that article isn't funny at any point

― peter $.., Saturday, 25 September 2004 05:18 (twenty-one years ago)

i am gravely disappointed in jay-z

― peter $.., Saturday, 25 September 2004 05:20 (twenty-one years ago)

i agree with point 8, scorpium. that tour is a travesty

― peter $.., Saturday, 25 September 2004 05:21 (twenty-one years ago)

are you guy$ related? originally I a$$umed you were the $ame per$on.

― manthony m1cc1o (Anthony Miccio), Saturday, 25 September 2004 05:25 (twenty-one years ago)

no, and i will rarely stoop to the level of addressing him directly.

sploope, i agree w/you totally, but i need to listen to volume 1 yet. blueprint, bp2, black album, roc la fam, all sound so corny in lite of v2 & rsnable doubt
but his flow is still amazing in that work, and that's where stylus and this thread are so wrong. jay's problem isn't that he isn't amazing an lyricist, it's that he underestimates/abuses/is being a bitch with his power as an artist, so he comes off over-sentimental and corny or something. i like him so much its hard to put a finger on though!!

― peter $.., Saturday, 25 September 2004 05:32 (twenty-one years ago)

Isn't it great being in the UK, where Less than Jake is more popular than Jay-Z?!

You UK fucks is CRAAAAAAZY.

PS: BEST RAPPER ALIVE.

― djdee2005 (djdee2005), Saturday, 25 September 2004 07:45 (twenty-one years ago)

i get bored of reasonable doubt about halfway though. it might be the jay-z album i acually *enjoy* the least. 'can i live' is beautiful tho, i feel i must emphasise.

― m. (mitchlnw), Saturday, 25 September 2004 08:55 (twenty-one years ago)

Ha ha Mitch that's because Reasonable Doubt gets boring in the second half! I usually stop listening after "Ain't No Nigga". The album would be worth it for "Politics As Usual" alone though.

I'm not sure if I like or am suspicious of how "corny" has been flipped to apply to Jay-Z himself. I'm not sure how it exactly relates to his rapping style. The boring tracks on The Black Album don't seem to fit the term.

― Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Saturday, 25 September 2004 09:27 (twenty-one years ago)

trife alleged he got 'corny' after roc la familia. i don't think he's ever been particularly corny.

― m. (mitchlnw), Saturday, 25 September 2004 12:24 (twenty-one years ago)

I know what Trife is arguing - he certainly toned down the "gutter"-ness of his rapping after Roc La. I don't think this was a "corny" thing though.

― djdee2005 (djdee2005), Saturday, 25 September 2004 12:50 (twenty-one years ago)

And seriously whats with all these Euros hating on Jay-Z? They just wish Dizzee Rascal were as cool.

― djdee2005 (djdee2005), Saturday, 25 September 2004 15:47 (twenty-one years ago)

ooooh! This needs it's own thread!

― manthony m1cc1o (Anthony Miccio), Saturday, 25 September 2004 16:03 (twenty-one years ago)

there's a widespread belief that jay-z got corny in his second half. it has something to do with the "grown man" style alleged by sleepy brown, something to do with the mockable "sincerity" (threats?!) and something to do with the PREDICTION of him going ON TOUR W R KELLY RIGHT AFTER HE "RETIRED" instead of going into hiding in EUROPE like RICHARD WRITE or something and coming out with a GREAT PROFOUND BODY OF MUSIC. that was my great hope for jay, anyways, but now it's just a fantasy :(

― peter $.., Saturday, 25 September 2004 16:19 (twenty-one years ago)

wright, :0

― peter $.., Saturday, 25 September 2004 16:20 (twenty-one years ago)

haha miccio it should have been

TS: Richard Wright vs. Jay-Z

― djdee2005 (djdee2005), Saturday, 25 September 2004 17:14 (twenty-one years ago)

"I woulda sounded like Ralph Ellison if it sold better"

― Begs2Differ (Begs2Differ), Saturday, 25 September 2004 17:33 (twenty-one years ago)

"99 Problems" = Invisible Man

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Saturday, 25 September 2004 17:36 (twenty-one years ago)

with bling on

― Symplistic (shmuel), Saturday, 25 September 2004 19:56 (twenty-one years ago)

stylus magazine in head up ass shocker

― jess (dubplatestyle), Saturday, 25 September 2004 19:59 (twenty-one years ago)

sick with the pen nigga, no physician in the world could fix him
no prescription you could prescribe to subside his affliction
he's not a sane man, he's more like rain man, twitchin'
you can't rain dance on his picnic
no haitian voodoo, no headless chickens can dead his sickness

― m. (mitchlnw), Saturday, 25 September 2004 20:09 (twenty-one years ago)

i'm-a tell Todd to revoke your stypod privileges, stinko humorlessington.

― manthony m1cc1o (Anthony Miccio), Saturday, 25 September 2004 20:33 (twenty-one years ago)

ha "revoke"

― jess (dubplatestyle), Saturday, 25 September 2004 20:35 (twenty-one years ago)

i finally caved and wrote one

― jess (dubplatestyle), Saturday, 25 September 2004 20:35 (twenty-one years ago)

besides haven't you made half of those statements yerself?

― manthony m1cc1o (Anthony Miccio), Saturday, 25 September 2004 20:36 (twenty-one years ago)

at this rate he'll get the other two he asked for some time before 2008

xpost: oh i didnt read the article

― jess (dubplatestyle), Saturday, 25 September 2004 20:36 (twenty-one years ago)

hmm, that stylus piece really wasn't very good, was it? if you're going to take an irreverent swipe, it should be very funny, or pangs of truth. That was just bad kid's stuff:
...he's ugly! (so are most of my musical heroes, and the face-pressed-against-glass has a whiff of KKK physiognamy to it).
...nas' homophobia means that Jay walked right into being dissed! (remember in Ether when Nas claimed that Rockefeller died of AIDS? my god, did he think no-one would kow that this was made up?).
...he invented the pause! (which is actually a fine lyrical technique, and it's somehow Jay's fault that Kanye ain't as clever)
...his albums titles aren't clever!

boy, the writers must've been pissing themselves when they devised these...

("can't you take a joke?" "i could if it was funny...")

― paulhw (paulhw), Saturday, 25 September 2004 20:37 (twenty-one years ago)

won't someone PLEASE think of the children!?!?!!

― manthony m1cc1o (Anthony Miccio), Saturday, 25 September 2004 20:40 (twenty-one years ago)

Jess in smarmy disdain SHOCKAH

― djdee2005 (djdee2005), Saturday, 25 September 2004 20:46 (twenty-one years ago)

Just read a magazine
That f***ed up my day
How you rate music
That thugs with
Nothin' relate to it?
I help them see they way
Through it, not you
Can't step in my pants
Can't walk in my shoes
Bet everything you worth
You lose your tie
And your shirt

You lookin at the black Warren Buffett
so all critics can duck sic
I don't care if you C. Delores Tuck-it

― Jay-Z (Anthony Miccio), Saturday, 25 September 2004 20:49 (twenty-one years ago)

p.s. if you call beyonce a beard again I'm gonna fuck you in the ass

― Jay-Z (Anthony Miccio), Saturday, 25 September 2004 20:49 (twenty-one years ago)

haha awesome.

― djdee2005 (djdee2005), Saturday, 25 September 2004 20:52 (twenty-one years ago)

Last night I had a dream that Beyonce's sister asked me to put my hand down the back of her jeans. I am a gentleman, even in dreams, and thus I declined.

― adam. (nordicskilla), Saturday, 25 September 2004 20:54 (twenty-one years ago)

What a filthy business that was.

― adam. (nordicskilla), Saturday, 25 September 2004 20:54 (twenty-one years ago)

My favourite comment of that is the one dude that refers to an Italian and an Australian Polak as "limeys". Just behind the guy upset that "Dom just dissed J-Live. That makes me disgruntled." I get the feeling J-Live fans spend a lot of their time disgruntled, and possibly vexed.

― Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Saturday, 25 September 2004 21:09 (twenty-one years ago)

As a J-Live fan, I resent that.

― Symplistic (shmuel), Saturday, 25 September 2004 21:20 (twenty-one years ago)

My favourite comments are those that think that the article is saying "Thankfully REAL music like Less Than Jake outsells Jay-Z in some markets", missing the point completely. (The point is that LTJ are tedious no-marks and they STILL charted better than the "best rapper alive")

Then again, a lot of people missed the point by taking it seriously, non?

― edward o (edwardo), Saturday, 25 September 2004 22:37 (twenty-one years ago)

I got your point, i was flipping it on you to suggest that I wouldn't be proud to live in a country where LTJ outsell Jay-Z.

― djdee2005 (djdee2005), Saturday, 25 September 2004 22:40 (twenty-one years ago)

But I also wasn't taking it seriously.

― djdee2005 (djdee2005), Saturday, 25 September 2004 22:41 (twenty-one years ago)

Yeah, I knew as much. But taken out of that context (i.e. who YOU are, what you were obviously saying), I liked the comment. So much funnier than being called a 17-year old C-class-er.

― edward o (edwardo), Saturday, 25 September 2004 22:45 (twenty-one years ago)

three years pass...

Before Jay-Z embarked upon his hugely popular solo career he was apart of an underground Brooklyn rap group called Hawaiian Sophie Fame. Young Jay then was the protege of JazO the leader of Hawaiian Sophie. Although Jay probably would deny it to his grave, it should be obvious, Jay-Z is a play off JazO's name. That's whay Nas said..."from Sean Carter to Jay-Z damn you on Jaz (JazO) di*k"

― The stickman from the hilarious "xkcd" comics, Monday, 21 July 2008 23:06 (seventeen years ago)

haha

this thread is bizarre

patrin was on some bullshit

― M@tt He1ges0n, Monday, 21 July 2008 23:13 (seventeen years ago)

p.s. if you call beyonce a beard again I'm gonna fuck you in the ass
-- Jay-Z (Anthony Miccio), Saturday, September 25, 2004 3:49 PM (3 years ago) Bookmark Link

haha awesome.
-- djdee2005 (djdee2005), Saturday, September 25, 2004 3:52 PM (3 years ago) Bookmark Link

― J0rdan S., Monday, 21 July 2008 23:26 (seventeen years ago)

omg jay=z = moneisy

― Bo Jackson Overdrive, Monday, 21 July 2008 23:29 (seventeen years ago)

Will the Source plaster "RAP IS BACK!" on their cover in 2027 as a result of an mc that sounds like Biggie?

-- James Blount (James Blount), Friday, November 29, 2002 3:45 AM (5 years ago) Bookmark Link

lol didn't this happen

― BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Monday, 21 July 2008 23:40 (seventeen years ago)

OVERRATED AS SHIT

― sandwiches, Monday, 21 July 2008 23:42 (seventeen years ago)

in what circle is shit overrated? everytime I do it people scatter

― Bo Jackson Overdrive, Monday, 21 July 2008 23:50 (seventeen years ago)

I think he should lay of the Alize and Hennesey and take a listen to K-os before he's completely done.

― The Reverend, Tuesday, 22 July 2008 04:00 (seventeen years ago)

"Girls Girls Girls" is outstanding.

― billstevejim, Tuesday, 22 July 2008 04:56 (seventeen years ago)

six months pass...

best PR of any rapper right now.

― p-noid (titchyschneiderMk2), Monday, 2 February 2009 14:55 (seventeen years ago)

99 posts, and Geir ain't one!

― Mark G, Monday, 2 February 2009 15:52 (seventeen years ago)

I think I c'd like 6 different posts on my way down to the bottom because I couldn't decide which one to p

― BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Monday, 2 February 2009 18:27 (seventeen years ago)

And seriously whats with all these Euros hating on Jay-Z? They just wish Dizzee Rascal were as cool.
― djdee2005 (djdee2005), Saturday, September 25, 2004 11:47 AM (4 years ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

good use of the subjunctive

― max, Monday, 2 February 2009 18:29 (seventeen years ago)

Never understood the fuss about this guy, or biggie(who sounded retarded to me)

― X-101, Tuesday, 3 February 2009 09:19 (seventeen years ago)

a-real-live-one.jpg

― unaustralian (jabba hands), Tuesday, 3 February 2009 09:26 (seventeen years ago)

Never understood the fuss about this guy, or biggie(who sounded retarded to me)

― X-101, Tuesday, February 3, 2009 3:19 AM (11 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

http://www.medaloffreedom.com/FredRogers_KingFridayXIII.jpg

― LOOK WHAT I BRING TO THE TABLA (deej), Tuesday, 3 February 2009 09:37 (seventeen years ago)

I'm not sure what you mean LOOK WHAT I BRING TO THE TABLE I'm just asking an innocent question.

― BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Tuesday, 3 February 2009 09:40 (seventeen years ago)

OH NO

― BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Tuesday, 3 February 2009 09:40 (seventeen years ago)

seven months pass...

http://www.thelondonpaper.com/going-out/whats-new/jay-z-live-review-the-roundhouse-camden

Too many big-name US rappers have come here thinking it’s enough to drawl their rhymes over a hired DJ

er, its hip hop?

― titchy (titchyschneiderMk2), Friday, 18 September 2009 20:20 (sixteen years ago)

it's the hired DJs part -- those guys should be doing it for the love, not money

― No Evidence of Disease Raggett (some dude), Friday, 18 September 2009 20:22 (sixteen years ago)

i think ive come to loathe jay-z more since he started trying to build his media profile in the uk and all the people who never knew anything about him before he was mr beyonce suddenly fawn over him (or at least seem afraid to say much critical).

― titchy (titchyschneiderMk2), Friday, 18 September 2009 20:31 (sixteen years ago)

i'm trying to imagine a world where jay-z's omnipresent media profile is a relatively new thing.

― strongohulkingtonsghost, Sunday, 20 September 2009 22:40 (sixteen years ago)

imagine "a world" that isn't the usa.

― history mayne, Sunday, 20 September 2009 22:42 (sixteen years ago)

i'd prefer not.

― strongohulkingtonsghost, Sunday, 20 September 2009 22:43 (sixteen years ago)

i am american, after all.

― strongohulkingtonsghost, Sunday, 20 September 2009 22:43 (sixteen years ago)

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