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"i am extremely picky when it comes to 'garage rock' and as far as i can tell my pickiness follows no known patterns" - Jess on the Gories thread

J0hn Darn1elle (J0hn Darn1elle), Monday, 10 November 2003 16:39 (twenty-two years ago)

Thread esp. for people who generally aren't v. enthusiastic about neo-garage (or for that matter old-school garage) bands! My own favorites:

1. Monoshock - always very near chaos, something really dark about what they're doing, seems to make good on the "out-there" promise of "wild" garage stuff - like Crazy Horse if they were starving to death & had been clinically depressed for years

2. The Mummies - everything they ever did makes me laugh & awakens the "I'm not interested in it if it's not funny" impulse in me, which I think is a good impulse

3. The Cheater Slicks - seem to have actually listened to pre-'67 Rolling Stones albums, like, really really hard

J0hn Darn1elle (J0hn Darn1elle), Monday, 10 November 2003 16:42 (twenty-two years ago)

Night Kings, for sure. Great melody. Unbelievable guitar tone. Often, all is said and done in under two minutes. "Black Fluid" is a highwater moment for that particular garage revival.

gusbot (eternal_fields), Monday, 10 November 2003 16:52 (twenty-two years ago)

the nights and days/nightkings - any of rob vasquez's early 90s recordings.

the gories - the pinnacle of this genre

billy childish/headcoats/headcoatees - british-style 2/3 chord garage stomp

april march - pre-francophile era, solo or with the pussywillows or the makers

Monoshock - always very near chaos, something really dark about what they're doing

yes, it's called "heavy psychedelic drugs".

gygax! (gygax!), Monday, 10 November 2003 16:55 (twenty-two years ago)

Agree totally on the Mummies, by the way: Their combination of savage approach and absurdist dogma/shtick was a revelation for me back then.

Cheater Slicks were no slouches either.

gusbot (eternal_fields), Monday, 10 November 2003 16:55 (twenty-two years ago)

xp with gusbot, unsuprisingly.

gygax! (gygax!), Monday, 10 November 2003 16:56 (twenty-two years ago)

Cheater Slicks are awesome.
Some dude at work who's just discovered garage is all "Dude, you've totally got to get the new Dirtbombs! I can't believe you don't have the new Dirtbombs! I was in Seattle, and I got the new Dirtbombs!"

I'm like, "you're the reason I'm trying to find a new job."

Huckleberry Mann (Horace Mann), Monday, 10 November 2003 17:00 (twenty-two years ago)

I would give The Makers props on their ownsome, actually. Also the New Bomb Turks.

Christ, if the worst thing about my job was some newbie thinking they were the bollocks cos they liked the Dirtbombs, I might be tempted to actually do some work instead of posting on here...

DJ Mencap (DJ Mencap), Monday, 10 November 2003 17:03 (twenty-two years ago)

i can't even answer this it's been so long since i've listened to a lot of this stuff.

i THINK i like garage when it's less schticky and closer to metal/punk. but again, no guarantees.

goato mountington (dubplatestyle), Monday, 10 November 2003 17:05 (twenty-two years ago)

Christ, if the worst thing about my job was some newbie thinking they were the bollocks cos they liked the Dirtbombs, I might be tempted to
actually do some work instead of posting on here...

Well, but that's the ONLY band he ever buys, and he always has to leave the city (and usually the country) before he actually BUYS anything. And he's more appreciated than me.

Huckleberry Mann (Horace Mann), Monday, 10 November 2003 17:26 (twenty-two years ago)

We had the Pixies forcibly removed from the stereo by the boss cos it was "horrible" :(

DJ Mencap (DJ Mencap), Monday, 10 November 2003 17:37 (twenty-two years ago)

(earlier this afternoon)

DJ Mencap (DJ Mencap), Monday, 10 November 2003 17:38 (twenty-two years ago)

of the latest garagey stuff, I really like what i've heard of the coachwhips, the ponys, the mystery girls, & the little killers. oh and The Black Lips, of course. I'm curious to hear The Cuts too.

Of the immediately preceding wave, The Deadly Snakes are tops but they haven't toured or anything since "Ode To Joy" so I'm not sure what's going on with them. The Clone Defects broke up, I heard. nice that they went out on their best record anyway.

and even though i wasn't that nuts about "time bomb high school", the reigning sound were really great last time they played here.

anyone heard The Buff Medways stuff yet? I'm always curious to hear what Billy Childish is up to...

Fritz Wollner (Fritz), Monday, 10 November 2003 17:53 (twenty-two years ago)

I second any and everything Billy Childish - if we want to include him in this stuff then he has to be tops.

Second the Mummies - yeah largely for the reasons J0hn states ("MYYYY Loooove is stronger than dirt!!").

Second The Nights and Days/Night Kings - totally invigorating, ragged songs that sound like they're going to fall apart at any time. First heard them on that Sub Pop 200 comp, and they just sounded so wild and unlike everything else on there. There was a great interview with Rob Vasquez in some briefly-available fanzine - "Bad Vibe" I think it was called?

I loved the Fall-Outs, too - good tuneful stuff. Girl Trouble were great. Their records were good fun - especially liked that covers EP Stomp and Shout and Work it On Out.

The Gories - ridiculously great and the band that got me into this stuff in the first place.

Gibson Bros have to count right? So, them, for sure; also, Bassholes. Didn't like '68 Comeback as much.

I like all of the above to the point of actively seeking out and playing their recordings. There are tons of other bands that I don't mind, and certainly enjoy when I hear them, but can't really be arsed to collect all the records. Just too many in this style, really.

Broheems (diamond), Monday, 10 November 2003 20:00 (twenty-two years ago)

I only like The Go - "Meet Me at the Movies"

Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Monday, 10 November 2003 20:02 (twenty-two years ago)

The Lyres?
The Fleshtones?

Andrzej B. (Andrzej B.), Monday, 10 November 2003 21:21 (twenty-two years ago)

suck
and
suck

Fritz Wollner (Fritz), Monday, 10 November 2003 21:22 (twenty-two years ago)

sorry, that's harsh... but i never understood the appeal of those 2 bands. actually the idea of the fleshtones is great but the wild party angle always seems a bit forced - listening to them is kind of like being at a show where the lead singer keeps haranguing the audience to dance even though there aren't that many people there and people are mostly playing foosball at the back of the room or something.

that "live in paris" record w/ "the dreg" and "when the night falls" is fucking great.

Fritz Wollner (Fritz), Monday, 10 November 2003 21:29 (twenty-two years ago)

Lyres "On Fyre" album holds up very well. For nearly 20 years, I've been looking (with no real dilligence) for the Pete Best original of "Soapy."

dylan (dylan), Monday, 10 November 2003 21:46 (twenty-two years ago)

detroit cobras
deadbolt

i wouldn't call the cuts garage, really, at least the studio recording isn't. closer to jellyfish or something.

mig, Monday, 10 November 2003 22:37 (twenty-two years ago)

The Soledad Brothers.

Broke down raw blues from toledo by way of detroit. The early records are good, but they testify live.

Disco Nihilist (mjt), Monday, 10 November 2003 22:43 (twenty-two years ago)

"they testify live"

goddamn, I hate when rock bands get all into that quasi-racist "brothas and sistas!" minstrel show preacherman bullshit ... it sounded like a joke when the MC5 did it 1969, it sounded like more of a joke when the fucking Make-Up did it and it sounds like a fucking knock knock joke when the soledad brothers do it now.

Fritz Wollner (Fritz), Monday, 10 November 2003 22:59 (twenty-two years ago)

the gories, the mummies, oblivians, compulsive gamblers, teengenerate, the buff medways, the milkshakes, thee headcoatees, the bobbyteens, the black lips, quadrajets, april march w/the makers, dead moon... the usual stuff.*

*i am not opening pandora's box of older bands

lauren (laurenp), Monday, 10 November 2003 23:12 (twenty-two years ago)

wow, somebody is a little high strung today.

Disco Nihilist (mjt), Monday, 10 November 2003 23:14 (twenty-two years ago)

The Mystreated! Were Ace!

Ben Dot (1977), Tuesday, 11 November 2003 00:36 (twenty-two years ago)

The Kiss Offs - http://www.peekaboorecords.com/thekissoffs/

The Bellrays have one great song - "Blue Cirque," which makes up for all the boring stuff.

Boss Hog's S/T album

miloauckerman (miloauckerman), Tuesday, 11 November 2003 01:48 (twenty-two years ago)

The Country Teasers- " Bitches fuck off " and " Anytime Cowboy "

darth nader, Tuesday, 11 November 2003 02:04 (twenty-two years ago)

I confess a secret love for The Country Teasers no matter how wrong (in various senses of the word) they happen to be. The version of "Some Hole" on Moral Nosebleed Empire or whatever never fails to put a guilty smile on my face.

Cheater Slicks are also great. Do Teengenerate count? They make me want to dance. And by dance, I mean explode.

Dave M. (rotten03), Tuesday, 11 November 2003 05:39 (twenty-two years ago)

Pretty much any of the Crypt back catalogue will see you good... someone mentioned The Little Killers up there, who are like their first new band in five years or so. They're far from their best either, but pretty fun.

DJ Mencap (DJ Mencap), Tuesday, 11 November 2003 10:24 (twenty-two years ago)

I'll throw in the Cynics, from Pittsburgh, PA. Try 1989's "Rock 'n' Roll" or 2002's comeback "Living Is The Best Revenge." 1988's "Twelve Flights Up" and 1986's "Blue Train Station" are pretty good, also. All records were released on guitarist/entrepreneur Gregg Kostelich's Get Hip! label.

John Fredland (jfredland), Tuesday, 11 November 2003 11:40 (twenty-two years ago)

The "Garage Punk Unknowns" series on Crypt rules the damn universe.

Colin Meeder (Mert), Tuesday, 11 November 2003 13:20 (twenty-two years ago)

What, no mentions of THE MAN here, I mean greg oblivian/cartwright?? Everything he's touched is ESSENTIAL. Oblivians, Compulsive Gamblers, Reigning Sound (and Deadly Snakes for a while). Do yourself a favor and check out this guy, a true genius.

Whoever said the country fags I mean teasers, you don't know shit about garagepunk. They're unlistenable wannabe "wierd" records were when Crypt started sucking, and now In The Red's fallen for the same crap. Take your Fall records over to some indie label, mates, there's about a million of 'em.

Check out these sites for more garagepunk info:
www.grunnenrocks.nl
www.garagepunk.com/forums

Whoever said Deadbolt,
FUCK YEAH!

Human Fly, Tuesday, 11 November 2003 16:25 (twenty-two years ago)

actually, it is funny how everyone's always like oooh mick collins mick collins mick collins when Greg Oblivian is so much more consistent AND more versatile.

Fritz Wollner (Fritz), Tuesday, 11 November 2003 16:31 (twenty-two years ago)

"less schticky and closer to metal/punk" = the MOD3Y L3M0N, YOUNG MAN!!!

Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Tuesday, 11 November 2003 17:24 (twenty-two years ago)

i am not the future of rock

erico b. rakimington (dubplatestyle), Tuesday, 11 November 2003 17:27 (twenty-two years ago)

Fritz Wollner has the best garage-rock taste on this thread, seems to me. But I think the Deadly Snakes played New York last month and the Clone Defects played here maybe even last WEEK, so I don't know where he's getting his not-touring and broke-up info from. Those are the two best garage rock albums I've heard this year, by the way, unless Brooks and Dunn count (which maybe they should.) I've like tons of other ones, though, and I've listed them on some threads around here somewhere. (The new Dirtbombs album, though, is a boring piece of shit, and that recent Blacktop reissue wasn't a whole lot better.)

chuck, Tuesday, 11 November 2003 17:53 (twenty-two years ago)

Brooks and Dunn

These guys your own personal Killing Joke, Chuck? (I mean this with affection!)

Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 11 November 2003 17:58 (twenty-two years ago)

actually, human fly, several people on this thread mentioned oblivians/compulsive gamblers/reinging sound. i guess the mention of the country teasers got you into such a frothing rage that you failed to notice this.

lauren (laurenp), Tuesday, 11 November 2003 18:11 (twenty-two years ago)

re: The Cuts
Better live than on disc, much like Cartwright's Reigning Sound. And seeing as how he produced their 2 over 10, I guess that sort of makes sense. I certainly don't want to take anything away from either bands' records; I love 'em both (esp. Time Bomb...)
but both bands really flourish live...

Hey Fritz, have you heard Break Up, Break Down? It's miles away from Time Bomb High School and what Cartwright does live, but fan-fucking-tastic nonetheless. Includes a haunting cover of the Everly's "So Sad" and about four or five of their best originals.

Will (will), Tuesday, 11 November 2003 18:30 (twenty-two years ago)

i second what lauren said.
Whoever said the country fags I mean teasers, you don't know shit about garagepunk. They're unlistenable wannabe "wierd" records were when Crypt started sucking is the sort of mentality (not to mention spelling and grammer) that I always thought the teasers were making fun of. the other really interesting group in this thread (to my ears anyway) is the other one not really categorizable as "garage rock": monoshock, who really have a lot more in common with the blackjack/bulb artdamaged/psych scene they came out of.

Ommmm, Tuesday, 11 November 2003 18:30 (twenty-two years ago)

i too was puzzled by monoshock being the first band mentioned on this thread... but i can sort of see where J0hn is coming from, garage rock in a very twisted universe where von lmo is ? and they could be his mysterians.

gygax! (gygax!), Tuesday, 11 November 2003 18:34 (twenty-two years ago)

yeah, will... I like some of "Break Up, Break Down" a whole lot. It was a brave move on his part to wimp out a bit, I think. "straight shooter" from "timebomb highschool" is great, but the whole record just feels a little generic to me.

as far as the Clone Defects breaking up goes, yeah that's just record store gossip so who knows. I was wrong about the Deadly Snakes, though. According to In The Red site they're on tour in Europe now.

Fritz Wollner (Fritz), Tuesday, 11 November 2003 18:36 (twenty-two years ago)

i was told over the weekend that the clone defects broke up by someone who works with the label, so i think fritz is probably right.

lauren (laurenp), Tuesday, 11 November 2003 19:47 (twenty-two years ago)

As far as IDM goes, I'm really into the new Books CD and definitely Four Tet still, and I'm going to mention Brooks and Dunn (as well) who maybe don't count (though they probably should (am I (of course) right?) since they erase all genre boundaries). I played them at this IDM party I DJed. I DJ, you know, don't know if I mentioned that before, I'm still hep w/ the kids, new Dirtbombs is boring, etc.

charley, Wednesday, 12 November 2003 20:19 (twenty-two years ago)

(The new Dirtbombs album, though, is a boring piece of shit, and
that recent Blacktop reissue wasn't a whole lot better.)

I think that's the first time I've ever whole-heartedly agreed with you, Chuck.

Huckleberry Mann (Horace Mann), Wednesday, 12 November 2003 20:26 (twenty-two years ago)

now we are best friends.

Huckleberry Mann (Horace Mann), Wednesday, 12 November 2003 20:29 (twenty-two years ago)

Great! Now you can come to the Nashville IDM garage-rock party I DJ (though actually I don't). (And actually, I forget what Four Tet sound like.) (Though they seemed okay at the time.) (Not as good as Brooks and Dunn though.) (So fuck you.) (No, Huckleberry, not you.)

chuck, Wednesday, 12 November 2003 20:57 (twenty-two years ago)

And anyway (obviously) just because Brooks and Dunn make frequently danceable music with some Standells-like riffs and Mouse and the Traps-like vocal rhythms doesn't mean they erase ALL genre boundaries. Just some of them. Assuming the boundaries were even there in the first place.(And I really don't give a shit one way or another about "the kids." Whoever they are.)

chuck, Wednesday, 12 November 2003 21:04 (twenty-two years ago)

I heard at the last minute that the Clone Defects backed out of the show they were supposed to play here in NYC. Perhaps that is related to the breaking up thing - if it's true.

o. nate (onate), Wednesday, 12 November 2003 21:11 (twenty-two years ago)

Yeah, I never knew they cancelled that show. Too bad.

(Oh, "one" more thing -- as Dave Q would gladly tell you, ZZ Top sound WAY more IDM these days than Brooks and Dunn. Maybe more garage-rock, too, which serves them right seeing how they used to be the Moving Sidewalks and all.) (Though Clone Defects sort of sounded Detroit techno in their own way, come to think of it.)

chuck, Wednesday, 12 November 2003 21:24 (twenty-two years ago)

Anybody listening to Dirtnap Records' bands? They're out in Seattle, lots of odd energetic hybrids of garage n new wavey stuff...

Ann Sterzinger (Ann Sterzinger), Wednesday, 12 November 2003 23:19 (twenty-two years ago)

(Though Clone Defects sort of sounded Detroit techno in their own way, come to think of it.)

Chuck you could get punched for a comment like that. Just because they share the same area code with Derrick May does not mean that there is any kind of crossover.

Disco Nihilist (mjt), Wednesday, 12 November 2003 23:26 (twenty-two years ago)

Who said there was a "crossover"? There are weirdassed electronic sci-fi sounds on their albums (which, you may have noticed, have names of PlANETS in their titles) though -- they remind of the weirassed electronic sci-fi sounds on late '70s Cleveland punk records. But CDs are FROM Detroit. So. The punchers would be full of shit, as usual.

chuck, Wednesday, 12 November 2003 23:32 (twenty-two years ago)

Or maybe AKRON punk records. (And Derek May owned Devo albums, I bet.)

chuck, Wednesday, 12 November 2003 23:33 (twenty-two years ago)

Re Dirtnap: I love the Briefs. And the Epoxies are okay, too.

chuck, Wednesday, 12 November 2003 23:35 (twenty-two years ago)

(chuck, just to clarify, I was not implying that I was going to be the one doing the punching.)

Disco Nihilist (mjt), Thursday, 13 November 2003 00:24 (twenty-two years ago)

Do you know where I can get Hollow Points stuff? All I've found is that song "POW" on the Dirtnap comp. I dunno, it's a great song but it's of the sort that, well, it could be their only inspired version of that sort of mutation on hardcore... but I digress! Garage rock me!

Ann Sterzinger (Ann Sterzinger), Thursday, 13 November 2003 02:51 (twenty-two years ago)

I do think Clone Defects do sound a bit techno-ish on a couple of tracks - the drumming on "Take Your Love Back" for instance.

o. nate (onate), Thursday, 13 November 2003 04:06 (twenty-two years ago)

No one said Billy Childish?

The A-Bones too.

Colin Beckett (Colin Beckett), Thursday, 13 November 2003 04:41 (twenty-two years ago)

hi colin, i mentioned him in my first post!

gygax! (gygax!), Thursday, 13 November 2003 05:19 (twenty-two years ago)

hi colin, I mentioned him in my first post!

(first sentence of my first post, in fact!)

Broheems (diamond), Thursday, 13 November 2003 05:31 (twenty-two years ago)

Fair enough.

Colin Beckett (Colin Beckett), Thursday, 13 November 2003 05:35 (twenty-two years ago)

hi colin, i mentioned him in my first post, last sentence!

Fritz Wollner (Fritz), Thursday, 13 November 2003 05:42 (twenty-two years ago)

yeah, i mentioned him too - buff medways, milkshakes, headcoatees. so nyah.

lauren (laurenp), Thursday, 13 November 2003 08:24 (twenty-two years ago)

did we have a thread for the new ZZ Top record?
I think it's awesome, in a hideous way. I can't tell if they're doing like Jim White or doing like Cher.

Huckleberry Mann (Horace Mann), Thursday, 13 November 2003 14:44 (twenty-two years ago)

http://www.villagevoice.com/issues/0344/queen.php

chuck, Thursday, 13 November 2003 17:29 (twenty-two years ago)

http://www.villagevoice.com/issues/0344/smith.php

chuck, Thursday, 13 November 2003 17:30 (twenty-two years ago)

and while we're at it, on the subject of clone defects, deadly snakes, and garage punk:

http://www.villagevoice.com/issues/0329/kogan.php

chuck, Thursday, 13 November 2003 17:32 (twenty-two years ago)

cool, but he forgot to mention that the cover art is clearly inspired by Muerte Del Toro the final album by Calgary's Huevos Rancheros, which features the multiple Juno winning single, "Bring Me The Beard of Billy Gibbons"

Huckleberry Mann (Horace Mann), Thursday, 13 November 2003 17:34 (twenty-two years ago)

You might also want to look into this thread:

from the Detroit Metro Times: 15 bands to watch

David Allen's comments might make it a little more clear about who would be doing the punching if you told The CD's they were techno.

Nihilist Pop Star (mjt), Thursday, 13 November 2003 21:55 (twenty-two years ago)

I don't get it. It looks like David Allen's comments were basically: "they're awful", they make "shit music", and they're "assholes". How exactly does this relate to techno again?

o. nate (onate), Thursday, 13 November 2003 22:06 (twenty-two years ago)

It didn't seem to say much about punching, the Clone Defects, or anything else especially interesting either. So uh, I guess I missed the point. Half-assed singer songwriter hacks would punch me if I pointed out that Clone Defects have techno parts? I don't get it.

chuck, Thursday, 13 November 2003 22:12 (twenty-two years ago)

Or half-assed *Metro Times* hacks, maybe? Again, what the fuck?

chuck, Thursday, 13 November 2003 22:14 (twenty-two years ago)

Oh wait, I thought you meant I should look at the article the guy wrote. I didn't know you meant the thread. Which, again, doesn't seem to say a whole hell of a lot either. Is your point that the Clone Defects are "mean guys"? How do you know they wouldn't LIKE being called "techno"? Are you saying they put all those techno sounds in their by accident? And even if so, since when have bands *ever* been 100% right about how their music works, anyway? Do YOU avoid having opinions for fear that your opinions won't jibe with the musicians' opinions, and might upset them? If so, wow. Sounds like a sucky life.

chuck, Thursday, 13 November 2003 22:22 (twenty-two years ago)

I'm not sure what Chuck means by techno sounds. I don't hear weird electronic noises on Shapes of Venus - maybe this is something they did more on their earlier albums? - but the weird drumming in a couple of places does sound like techno. Actually the band they sound most like to me is Mudhoney, though with more Stones and less Sabbath in the stew.

o. nate (onate), Thursday, 13 November 2003 22:24 (twenty-two years ago)

Chuck,

The reason I know is because I used to get drunk in Ian Ammon's Mom's basement with Tim Laampanen in about 1993. I used to hang around that guy in highschool. I have run into him randomly all over town for years. That is how I know.

Frankly, my guess is that David Allen probably said something they did not agree with and they were not particularly nice about it. Tim is (or was, I was particularly shocked when I read about that mitsubishi commerical) probably the most punk rock and roll person I have ever seen and I don't think that he would ever be caught dead with a Red Planet record in his collection. I would have bet a weeks pay that he would have gone out like Laughner until about a year ago.

Tim is a rocker, he gets it from his older brother who raised him on Punk. I don't claim to have too many insights into his soul, I would not even claim to be a friend, but I do know that guy well enough to know that techno plays no role in anything he is involved with it. The electronics might have come into play through Allen Ravenstien, but they definitely did not come by way of Kevin Saunderson.

Nihilist Pop Star (mjt), Thursday, 13 November 2003 22:41 (twenty-two years ago)

but what about an Angry Red Planet record? I bet he's got one of those!

Broheems (diamond), Thursday, 13 November 2003 22:43 (twenty-two years ago)

Again, when exactly did I say they were inspired by Kevin Saunderson? I've compared the band in print to the Electric Eels, the Pagans, the Dead Boys, Rocket from the Tombs (sorry, I honestly forget what Mudhoney sounded like -- at least in part because their 1989 Ann Arbor show nearly put me to sleep). I've praised the Clone Defects for "slavering concrete jungle whines and irreverently downscale art touches (sci-fi feedback, extended drones, drunken boogie woogie motion)." But those are STILL mechanical sounds, and the band comes from River Rouge, right? So: DETROIT TECHNO. What part of that don't you get? Look, it all goes back to Kraut-rock anyway, right? I'm sure Juan Atkins and John Morton would agree. (And whatever happened to Angry Red Planet anyway? I always liked their song about curling.)

chuck, Thursday, 13 November 2003 22:55 (twenty-two years ago)

Well, Mudhoney may not be the best reference point - though with my limited exposure to garage punk, it's probably the best I could muster. The voice of the singer reminds me of Mark Arm. But Clone Defects avoid the dirgey faux-bluesy numbers that Mudhoney had a weakness for. They sound like they're having more fun.

o. nate (onate), Thursday, 13 November 2003 23:05 (twenty-two years ago)

I suppose I could call the Piranhas Detroit techno too, you can call any art damaged rock act Detroit techno if you want. It makes for great prose, and there is no doubt in my mind that you are a good enough writer to strech reality into whatever shape you want.

All I am saying is that the roots of those two scenes are worlds apart. All music comes down to us from Manuel Gottsching, and just because the promotional strategies, social consumption patterns, ideological beliefs, and key players do not cross over whatsoever does not mean that there isn't a connection, right?

Nihilist Pop Star (mjt), Thursday, 13 November 2003 23:11 (twenty-two years ago)

Right. Because there still might be a connection in HOW. THE. MUSIC. SOUNDS. Sorry if that seems completely irrelevant to you; to me, it matters somewhat.

chuck, Thursday, 13 November 2003 23:27 (twenty-two years ago)

i was listening to an Opeth song the other night that reminded me of detroit techno.

scott seward, Thursday, 13 November 2003 23:29 (twenty-two years ago)

Hi Scott! Opeth have sad nude strings out the ying-yang, I agree!

chuck, Thursday, 13 November 2003 23:30 (twenty-two years ago)

they are like the derrick may of doom metal.

scott seward, Thursday, 13 November 2003 23:33 (twenty-two years ago)

Hate Mail Express. full length just $5 on spam records. If you can find it.

http://people.ucsc.edu/~humanfly/hme/

Kevin Erickson, Friday, 14 November 2003 13:53 (twenty-two years ago)

What about the Stinkin' Grandmas?

latebloomer (latebloomer), Tuesday, 18 November 2003 05:00 (twenty-two years ago)

The Deadbeats. They were a classic band.

Labia, Tuesday, 18 November 2003 05:03 (twenty-two years ago)

a-frames played in our garage!

Liter Richard, Sunday, 23 November 2003 00:11 (twenty-two years ago)

five years pass...

I originally posted this on a Flamin Groovies thread--

I saw Flamin Groovies guitarist Cyril Jordan with his current garage and a bit of power pop band Magic Christian last night. Fun fun fun. Eddie Muñoz from L.A. band The Plimsouls is on bass and Clem Burke from Blondie is drumming. They closed with a great version of "Shake Some Action." The singer is real good too---effective voice and banging away on the tambourine.

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curmudgeon, Tuesday, 27 January 2009 20:42 (seventeen years ago)

Truly - does this thread go without a single mention of the Mono Men ... I'm blown away - seek 'em out - truly an on-fire garage band on Estrus for quite a while.

BlackIronPrison, Tuesday, 27 January 2009 21:25 (seventeen years ago)

oi this thread.

As far as "Sonics/Stooges inspired rock", to avoid the mess above with the genre name, even though they are no longer, The Beguiled from Orange County were superb. Their one album is easy to find, and it's fantastic. Good sideslice of Stooges and Cramps type stuff.

Also, Girl Trouble from Tacoma are worth checking out if ya haven't already done so.

Ashee Bolanalli (Mackro Mackro), Tuesday, 27 January 2009 21:52 (seventeen years ago)

All this stuff seems to be best heard on 45. I've only heard most of it on obscure small pressing multi-artist 45's that would have come with magazines. 4 bands doing covers recorded for radio or something.

james k polk, Tuesday, 27 January 2009 22:16 (seventeen years ago)

never forget Gorilla!

Ashee Bolanalli (Mackro Mackro), Tuesday, 27 January 2009 22:53 (seventeen years ago)

Also, this is veering deep into the Sympathy For The Record Industry flavors of garage rock (i.e. awesome)..

but i really really miss Jacknife, the L.A. three piece. They put out an excellent EP on Imp Records.

Ashee Bolanalli (Mackro Mackro), Tuesday, 27 January 2009 22:54 (seventeen years ago)

LOL at this impersonator:

As far as IDM goes, I'm really into the new Books CD and definitely Four Tet still, and I'm going to mention Brooks and Dunn (as well) who maybe don't count (though they probably should (am I (of course) right?) since they erase all genre boundaries). I played them at this IDM party I DJed. I DJ, you know, don't know if I mentioned that before, I'm still hep w/ the kids, new Dirtbombs is boring, etc.
― charley, Wednesday, November 12, 2003 12:19 PM (5 years ago)

(*゚ー゚)θ L(。・_・)   °~ヾ(・ε・ *) (Steve Shasta), Tuesday, 27 January 2009 23:11 (seventeen years ago)

What a dipshit. (Like I wouldn't have put brackets within the parentheses, for Crissakes.)

Anyway, kinda funny how there's no music from the '60s on this thread.

xhuxk, Tuesday, 27 January 2009 23:20 (seventeen years ago)

"Sonics/Stooges

Ashee Bolanalli (Mackro Mackro), Wednesday, 28 January 2009 01:01 (seventeen years ago)

Nope. What it says up there is "Sonics/Stooges inspired rock", not the same. (There is one stray mention to "The Garage Punk Unknowns' series on Crypt," admittedly. But I still think it's hilarious that a Martin who found this thread via Google would conclude the genre didn't exist before the '80s.)

xhuxk, Wednesday, 28 January 2009 01:12 (seventeen years ago)

(or a Martian, even.)

xhuxk, Wednesday, 28 January 2009 01:12 (seventeen years ago)

(Actually, I also mention the Moving Sidewalks, Standells, and Mouse and the Traps in passing, too. But only to compare them to country rock bands.)

xhuxk, Wednesday, 28 January 2009 01:16 (seventeen years ago)

J0hn's second post indicates he's looking for "neo-garage" recommendations which kind of eliminates the whole Nuggets' school of stuff.

Alex in SF, Wednesday, 28 January 2009 01:18 (seventeen years ago)

(or for that matter old-school garage)

xhuxk, Wednesday, 28 January 2009 01:18 (seventeen years ago)

compulsive gamblers

the gush of yesterday (omar little), Wednesday, 28 January 2009 01:19 (seventeen years ago)

"(or for that matter old-school garage)"

Hah I ignore everything in paranthesis. It works better that way.

Alex in SF, Wednesday, 28 January 2009 01:26 (seventeen years ago)

one year passes...

i saw the reigning sound last night w/the ettes (vv good) and a band called death hymn number 9 opening for both of them, and they were pretty awesome, definitely on the more early oblivians side of garage:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gJwR8SPVDP0

and greg cartwright has a new side project with coco hames of the ettes called the parting gifts, they played a mini-set after the reigning sound.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x4H3zwD0QPQ

rothko's chapel and waffles (omar little), Thursday, 28 October 2010 20:35 (fifteen years ago)

eleven months pass...

this guys are great:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3cGNuA17i4I&feature=related

nostormo, Saturday, 8 October 2011 01:07 (fourteen years ago)

two years pass...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vOBDhsoIInY
https://www.facebook.com/SubsonicsATL

Really surprised there's no thread on the Subsonics (maybe I'm just bad at searching? they aren't on wikipedia either) but I saw them last night and it was really great. I think I first saw them at a house show about 10 years ago and they have consistently been a not-to-miss act for me. I'm not sure how long they've been around (pretty sure 20+ years by now) but they absolutely ruled. The drummer plays standing up and she has a minimal style that sort of makes me think of VU, only rocking way much harder. The lead singer is great and has this very slight vampire thing going for him imo and the songs are all pretty raw two-chord or three-chord rock. Dude can play a mean 3-note guitar solo!

▴▲ ▴TH3CR()$BY$H()W▴▲ ▴ (Adam Bruneau), Sunday, 25 May 2014 17:33 (eleven years ago)

eleven years pass...

1966, Eindhoven NL

The Phantoms covering "Roadrunner" (Bo Diddley)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZO3t_RVwzjI

imperial frfr (Steve Shasta), Tuesday, 10 June 2025 17:25 (eight months ago)


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