Ryuichi Sakamoto S/D

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ok there's been two sparse YMO threads, but apart from this notable moment there's been no proper S/D. And his output is completely schitzoid; basically there's the soundtrack stuff (occasionally nice), the mainstream glossed-out pop music stuff (almost always not to my taste), and then the occasional burst of absolute experiental chaos.

Myself I like YMO, especially 'Solid State Survivor' and 'XOO Multiplies'. Not for everyday, but it's well crafted, very catchy, very happy pop, with occasional bursts of humor so inexplicable and politically bizarre... I'm still not sure what to make of the fact that they were so huge at home with things like 'Snakeman Show Skit' on their albums.

Here's the searches:

'Thousand Knives of Ryuichi Sakamoto'; instrumental, but still sounding much like a jazzier YMO. Good though, great cover of him loosely gripping a reading lamp while crouched in a bathtub.

'B-2 Unit' is a record that shuts everyone up, always getting rediscovered by people, year after year; it's fucking advanced. Still not much electronic music sounds like this clipped, demented, sharp, alien. American version omits the particularly brutal 'Participation Mystique' for a contemporary 12" club hit 'Warhead', which is also great.

'Left Handed Dream' was a collaboration with M's Robin Scott and Adrian Belew. Not much here, apart from the one fantastic instrumental 'The Garden of Poppies', could fit on 'B-2 Unit' easy.

'Esperanto' -- every time I see a copy of this out of print record I buy a copy for a friend. Released in 1985, sounds like twenty years from now; early sampling record with largely self-recorded sources. All the sounds are organic or conventionally instrumental in nature, but they're juxtaposed in acoustically impossible ways; everything sounds simultaneously hyper-realistic, plausibly real, yet absolutely artificial, impossible and composed. Hearing this record in 1985 was my first real encounter with Japanese culture. 'A "Wongga" Dance Song' has Arto Lindsay's guitar, echoing mutant trumpets, Gamelan percussion and clipped percussive hits made from chanting school children, I guess that one's the hit.

I also like the 12" with Sylvian, and the 'Merry Christmas Mr. Lawrence' soundtrack. I don't love the two followup records to 'Esperanto', 'Illustrated Musical Encyclopaedia' and 'Futurista', but they've still got odd moments, like 'Field Work' with Thomas Dolby; they never came out in the States. When he finally regained an american record deal, the results were bland pop records: 'Neo Geo', 'Beauty', 'Heartbeat', lush production with amazing vocalists (Robert Wyatt even), yet I bounce off the surface of these records.

This year's 'Vrioon' with Carsten Nicolai got my hopes up, and Sakamoto's piano playing is always lovely, but it's more a Nicolai sinewave fest than a Sakamoto disc.

So I've been frightened off buying on sight, but 'Esperanto' and 'B-2 Unit' are so remarkable -- I'm curious what other albums people have heard and how they relate to any of the ones mentioned above...

(Jon L), Wednesday, 31 December 2003 22:11 (twenty-one years ago)

search: heartbeat, world citizen
destroy: sahara blue, zero landmine

bahtology, Wednesday, 31 December 2003 22:18 (twenty-one years ago)

"Forbidden Colours" is one of my Top 10 singles ever.

Geir Hongro (GeirHong), Thursday, 1 January 2004 00:51 (twenty-one years ago)

Left Handed Dream is WONDERFUL!

Andy K (Andy K), Thursday, 1 January 2004 01:15 (twenty-one years ago)

the responses to this are going to be about as polarized as the work itself of course. I shouldn't put down the pop records. I'm just looking for more in the mode of 'B-2 Unit'/'Esperanto'.

yeah I have a huge soft spot for 'forbidden colours', the original versions (vocal & instrumental) bookend the 'mr. lawrence' soundtrack perfectly. I like the later arrangement for piano too.

'sahara blue' is a record by hector zazou w/sakamoto contributing piano and I agree that it should be destroyed.

(Jon L), Thursday, 1 January 2004 01:23 (twenty-one years ago)

search : discord

>>'sahara blue' is a record by hector zazou w/sakamoto contributing piano and I agree that it should be destroyed. <<

I believe that after hearing the finished product, David Sylvian actually attempted it's destruction on some level. He only succeeded in erasing the two tracks that he contributed lead vocals on. The rest presses on in infamy.

Brian, Thursday, 1 January 2004 15:56 (twenty-one years ago)

one year passes...
Jon, no love for Left Handed Dream?

Naive Teen Idol (Naive Teen Idol), Saturday, 26 November 2005 05:34 (nineteen years ago)

The second Carsten Nicolai / Ryuichi Sakamoto collaborative album "insen" is quite lovely. I play it a lot at home these days.

Drew Daniel (Drew Daniel), Saturday, 26 November 2005 05:49 (nineteen years ago)

He did the soundtrack for Tony Taketini, which kind of sucked; the film, not his music. Merry Christmas, Mr. Lawrence is an achingly pretty piece of music. Secrets of the Beehive is quite nice. Actually, anything he touches turns to gold. And he is a beautiful, beautiful man, which is the important thing, after all.

Mary (Mary), Saturday, 26 November 2005 06:06 (nineteen years ago)

here is the other sakamoto thread

Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Saturday, 26 November 2005 11:23 (nineteen years ago)

six months pass...
milton, if you still post, can you explain the circumstances of the amazing song on this clip http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XEauo-qXakM&search=sylvian - it's called "the real you" and appears to be ippu do + ymo + steve jansen on drums. was it released on any album?

s/g, Friday, 2 June 2006 02:12 (nineteen years ago)

Hey, thanks for the link--I've never seen that clip. All my favorite people in one place! The song is from Yukihiro Takahashi's solo album 'What, Me WORRY?' (1982). It's a great album, and it was actually just reissued on CD (in Japan). Definitely worth buying.

Patrick South (Patrick South), Friday, 2 June 2006 02:44 (nineteen years ago)

I knew Patrick would know.

thanks for the link.

milton parker (Jon L), Friday, 2 June 2006 09:15 (nineteen years ago)

amazing, thanks for the info.

s/g, Friday, 2 June 2006 13:43 (nineteen years ago)

seven months pass...
"Bibo No Aozora" really caught me off guard in "Babel." Really...an amazing emotional piece.

Tape Store (Tape Store), Tuesday, 23 January 2007 06:33 (eighteen years ago)

I love Neo Geo from 1988 and Heartbeat is good, too.

m coleman (lovebug starski), Tuesday, 23 January 2007 10:55 (eighteen years ago)

five months pass...

I found Left Handed Dream in a 99 cent bin at a record store that otherwise is pretty good at curating, couldn't believe it!

I was previously unfamiliar with YMO and Sakamoto's pop stuff (having known only soundtrack/electronic/Fennesz stuff), so you can imagine my surprise at first hearing this fantastically weird pop record. It's awesome!

Mark Clemente, Tuesday, 3 July 2007 17:29 (eighteen years ago)

Search: Tony Takitani OST

Steve Shasta, Tuesday, 3 July 2007 18:23 (eighteen years ago)

"Summer Nerves" is great vocodopop disco w/at least Takahashi on it if not also some Hosono. Not entirely dissimilar in feel from some of Takahashi's similarly awesome "Saravah!"

Bangelo, Tuesday, 3 July 2007 19:42 (eighteen years ago)

seven months pass...

I just got "Chasm" from emusic and I'm blown away by it, was not expecting such electronica/noise from some of the tracks. It is really varied and very very well done.

Trayce, Thursday, 14 February 2008 02:31 (seventeen years ago)

'B-2 Unit' is a record that shuts everyone up, always getting rediscovered by people, year after year; it's fucking advanced. Still not much electronic music sounds like this clipped, demented, sharp, alien. A....

'Esperanto' -- every time I see a copy of this out of print record I buy a copy for a friend. Released in 1985, sounds like twenty years from now; early sampling record with largely self-recorded sources. All the sounds are organic or conventionally instrumental in nature, but they're juxtaposed in acoustically impossible ways; everything sounds simultaneously hyper-realistic, plausibly real, yet absolutely artificial, impossible and composed

Anyone else heard these? The descriptions make me want to want to head straight toward ebay.

Z S, Thursday, 14 February 2008 04:16 (seventeen years ago)

I listened to Soundbytes tonight...pretty good stuff. The first song sounds great. I want to use it in a film.

Tape Store, Thursday, 14 February 2008 04:50 (seventeen years ago)

So, uh, I found some Japanese music magazines in the trash the other morning, and one of 'em has an interview with Sakamoto & some photos. Anyone who reads Japanese interested?

ian, Thursday, 14 February 2008 06:25 (seventeen years ago)

'Chasm' sounds like he took careful notes on Fennesz' signal path and went out and bought all the same software -- parts are impressively glitched out for extended periods of time and I like a few of the tracks all right

His new ambient album with Christopher Willits 'Ocean Fire' is beautiful.

Milton Parker, Thursday, 14 February 2008 22:46 (seventeen years ago)

what about his soundtrack to silk? haven't seen the film, but i think pretty much everything he has done of late has been near flawless. cendre was one of my most listened to albums of last year.

r1o natsume, Thursday, 14 February 2008 23:18 (seventeen years ago)

STILL haven't heard a thousand knives though.

r1o natsume, Thursday, 14 February 2008 23:19 (seventeen years ago)

Summer Nerves !

matinee, Friday, 15 February 2008 00:13 (seventeen years ago)

Thousand Knives is my fav though

matinee, Friday, 15 February 2008 00:14 (seventeen years ago)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3LI2mHRycJ4&feature=related

Tape Store, Friday, 15 February 2008 02:17 (seventeen years ago)

one year passes...

I don't have anything bad to say about Ryuichi Sakamoto apart from the fact that his catalogue is so deep that I'm always finding something that I don't already have. If anything is inessential, it's the multiple collections of already released stuff, and perhaps the one that collects the work he did for commercials. But I almost always still enjoy them.

Even though I know they're not necessarily his best, I still have a soft spot for Illustrated Musical Encyclopaedia, Neo Geo and Beauty - the lush pop he was doing back was something that helped to move me away from a diet of strictly commercial music.

Just picked up a newish double CD on Decca called Playing the Piano / Out of Noise...First CD is solo piano reinterpretations of some of his soundtrack and pop work, and it's really hitting the spot. The other one explores where noise and environment intersect, apparently with some of it recorded underwater and on top of glaciers in Greenland...and some of this is supposed to follow along from some of the work he's done with Alva Noto. Haven't listened through much of it yet but I'm hoping it'll also become a favourite like some of the work he's done with Carsten and Fennesz over the last few years.

There's a quote in the liner notes for this one about how typically as people get older their musical tastes tend to get narrower, but that he's finding his getting wider thanks to his exposure to this new generation of musician collaborators and compatriots...I like to think that I'm along for the ride of continual palette expansion too, but I have to admit that he's certainly helping me along in that regard.

Sean Carruthers, Friday, 5 February 2010 02:22 (fifteen years ago)

i sold him a copy of bonjour tristesse

figuratively, but in a very real way (amateurist), Friday, 5 February 2010 09:03 (fifteen years ago)

He's gone way too minimal and glitchy lately. The HASYMO single he was part of a few years is my last favorite thing by him. Those chords!

Search GEM Collection if you can find it. It's a wonderful collection of synthy odds n' ends from the early to mid 80's that spans a variety of styles - from J Pop to Fairlight + beatbox exercises.

François de Roobabe (Capitaine Jay Vee), Friday, 5 February 2010 11:22 (fifteen years ago)

a few years ago

François de Roobabe (Capitaine Jay Vee), Friday, 5 February 2010 11:23 (fifteen years ago)

five months pass...

he is very attractive

by another name (amateurist), Friday, 23 July 2010 01:20 (fifteen years ago)

he might win the women think he's the hottest category, true

iago g., Friday, 23 July 2010 01:24 (fifteen years ago)

http://images.peaceandflood.fr/images/916836RyuichiSakamoto.jpg

by another name (amateurist), Friday, 23 July 2010 02:27 (fifteen years ago)

I've been listening the fuck out of Esperanto since r1o posted his thread on it the other day. I probably like it even more than 1000 Knives.

fidel castro clone (corey), Friday, 23 July 2010 02:31 (fifteen years ago)

six months pass...

To anyone who didn't like Illustrated Musical Encyclopedia - seek out the Japanese version, called Ongaku Zukan; only about half the tracks from the original release wound up on the American version. This one includes "Replica" which is absolutely stunning and one of my favorite pieces of his.

B-2 Unit and Esperanto are indeed great albums, but they took me forever to really get into, especially the latter. Kind of minimal but very cool and revolutionary. Also seek the "Warhead" 12" and the "Forbidden Colours" single with the Bamboo tracks. Otherwise if you're in the market for more cool experimental electronic stuff, you can always check out Hosono's discography.

frogbs, Monday, 14 February 2011 20:03 (fourteen years ago)

three weeks pass...


Search GEM Collection if you can find it. It's a wonderful collection of synthy odds n' ends from the early to mid 80's that spans a variety of styles - from J Pop to Fairlight + beatbox exercises.

― François de Roobabe (Capitaine Jay Vee), Friday, February 5, 2010 5:22 AM (1 year ago)

I can't find this anywhere — halp

corey, Sunday, 13 March 2011 17:23 (fourteen years ago)

also the alternate mix of "Happy End" that's on the Arrangement EP is the shit — should've been on BGM imo

corey, Sunday, 13 March 2011 18:33 (fourteen years ago)

Never heard the Arrangement EP; this is more Left Handed Dream stuff isn't it? Loved that album

Currently have an RS tune stuck in my head, but can't remember what it is!! The only line is "good morning, good evening, where are you?"

frogbs, Monday, 14 March 2011 14:35 (fourteen years ago)

half the tracks are versions of LHD songs with added lyrics sung by Robin Scott (the "Pop Musik" guy). I don't really like them, but the second half are tracks that weren't on the album (with the different mix of "Happy End")

corey, Monday, 14 March 2011 14:37 (fourteen years ago)

"good morning, good evening, where are you?"

this?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q0ycccAwO7I

corey, Monday, 14 March 2011 14:39 (fourteen years ago)

There's a nice update of that song on the Playing the Piano album - I'm pretty sure that's one of the tracks he played during his Toronto concert too.

Sean Carruthers, Monday, 14 March 2011 14:41 (fourteen years ago)

I'll have to check it out then...that's one of his best albums, I always randomly get "Venezia" stuck in my head too

Recently got a few Akiko Yano albums; no thread about her here but so far her early albums (at least) seem to really be a treat...anyone heard of them??

frogbs, Monday, 14 March 2011 15:24 (fourteen years ago)

I've heard "Ai Ga Nakucha Ne" (sp) — has all the YMO members contributing music iirc and a duet with David Sylvian. Her voice is nice, has kind of a young Kate Bush timbre

corey, Monday, 14 March 2011 15:39 (fourteen years ago)

I like Japanese Girl and I have a great more recent album that I have no idea what it's called because it's nearly all in japanese.

Ah, her website is also in English, it's called 'Honto No Kimochi' and it's aces.

MaresNest, Monday, 14 March 2011 15:51 (fourteen years ago)

The album that is..

MaresNest, Monday, 14 March 2011 15:51 (fourteen years ago)

I've been listening to a lot of YMO over the last few years but hadn't really heard much of their solo works up until recently. I did own Illustrated Musical Encyclopedia for a while but just couldn't get into it. I gave B-2 Unit a listen and sadly that didn't click either. I did listen to a lot of Yukihiro Takahashi's albums and fell in love with the run he did from 80-83. I think I prefer his work as it's more similar to the more poppy moments of YMO, especially Naughty Boys which is one of my favourite albums of all time. I really loved Immigrants by the Sandii & The Sunsetz and Tutu by Miharu Koshi which were both produced by Haruomi Hosono. I tried one of his albums but it was a bit harder to get into. If anyone has any other suggestions of which albums I should try that would be greatly appreciated.

Kitchen Person, Monday, 14 March 2011 15:53 (fourteen years ago)

Have you heard Sadistic Mika Band?

MaresNest, Monday, 14 March 2011 15:57 (fourteen years ago)

Cochin Moon is probably Hosono's best, but I listen to Coincidental Music a lot xp

corey, Monday, 14 March 2011 15:58 (fourteen years ago)

Kitchen - if you're looking for stuff that sounds like YMO, you're not really going to find it, except for those three Takahashi albums, which definitely sound like a YMO-side project, but in a good way. I'd be curious as to which Hosono album you got; he didn't do any solo stuff inside YMO besides Philharmony, which is a very neat album (though a little sparse) - he's definitely the kind of Eno-like artist who can do many many different styles and not look back. I guess I need to know what kind of stuff you're into before I can really say, but as I mentioned Sakamoto's Left Handed Dream is a tough one to go wrong with..

One thing you can do is to find the YEN record compilations; tons of great artists on those, and the YMO members were involved on nearly every release.

frogbs, Monday, 14 March 2011 15:58 (fourteen years ago)

btw Paraiso is my favorite Hosono album - but if you like the non-standard/Monad period, please find the soundtrack he did for Nokto de la Galaskia Fervojo, it's seriously amazing in all the ways Hosono usually is. It's one of the coldest sounding albums I own.

frogbs, Monday, 14 March 2011 16:00 (fourteen years ago)

Also, maybe check out Sakamoto's 1000 Knives record.

MaresNest, Monday, 14 March 2011 16:01 (fourteen years ago)

Love to hear those YEN comps.

MaresNest, Monday, 14 March 2011 16:02 (fourteen years ago)

listening to Ongaku Zukan on your rec btw, frogbs — thanks! I already loved this album so hearing the Japan-only tracks is like finding a secret level in a video game I've played 100 times

corey, Monday, 14 March 2011 16:03 (fourteen years ago)

Yeah I had a feeling I would struggle to find stuff that sounded just like YMO. It was an amazing moment when I discovered all the Yukihiro albums, like I'd found another batch of lost YMO classics from that great period. I couldn't believe I'd never heard Drip Dry Eyes before. Tomorrow's Just Another Day is probably my favourite album of that run, the production is insane. They were all pretty easy to get on vinyl too unlike a lot of the albums from this scene.

Philharmony was the Hosono album I tried, it was nice enough but not really something I would listen to a lot. I am quite a big Eno fan but as you can probably guess it's the four vocal based albums from his 70's period that I love him for. If there's anymore of Hosono's albums that are slightly poppier or more song based I would give them a go.

I will give Left Handed Dream a listen, I love that artwork. Are those Yen compilations easy to track down?

Kitchen Person, Monday, 14 March 2011 16:10 (fourteen years ago)

Not heard anything by Sadistic Mika Band. I get the impression the stuff they all released in the 70's is quite different. I listened to the first Yukihiro album Savannah and I just didn't like it at all, it was almost easy listening Muzak.

Kitchen Person, Monday, 14 March 2011 16:13 (fourteen years ago)

It's kind of funny, Hosono had the same type of 'pop' phase but his was more exotica/tropical stuff. His albums with Happy End are really good. I understand if you didn't like Philharmony but can you at least admit that "Sports Man" and "LDK" are first-rate? ;)

A good reference is this:
http://technopop.info/

BTW I would be all for some kind of Japanese New Wave listening club similar to the Krautrock one. I mean that page above lists hundreds of albums and nearly half of them seem to have some link to YMO

frogbs, Monday, 14 March 2011 16:23 (fourteen years ago)

corey - I was pretty surprised as well to find that the U.S. release cuts off half of the tracks, and also to realize that "Field Work" and "Steppin' Into Asia" didn't really fit with it at all. Sadly few outside of Japan seem to know about it. It sucks because "Replica" is my favorite RS track (at least, according to iTunes)

frogbs, Monday, 14 March 2011 16:26 (fourteen years ago)

iTunes says my most-played RS track is "Dolphins"

corey, Monday, 14 March 2011 16:42 (fourteen years ago)

BTW, just discovered that if you have access to the Japanese iTunes store, there are oodles of Playing the Piano Live concerts available from the past three years, including the ones he did on his swing through North America this past year. Just downloaded the Toronto show. They're only 1500 yen too, which makes them cheaper than most of the albums on the Japanese store!

Sean Carruthers, Monday, 14 March 2011 17:52 (fourteen years ago)

I hate to be negative, but I really dislike the piano versions of his older songs — it makes me think of when someone orchestrates the music from the Final Fantasy games. Chintzy and artificial the originals sounds might be, they're a huge part of why I enjoy this music so much, and piano versions just turn them into elevator music imo.

corey, Monday, 14 March 2011 17:59 (fourteen years ago)

Can see that, sure, but I actually like 'em a lot myself. Have really been enjoying a lot of other piano-based work like Olafur Arnalds and Max Richter etc, and so sometimes these versions really connect with me in a way that some of the 80s and 90s version don't. For example, the original "Amore" was a sophistopop high-gloss thing, but the piano version is quite moody. Not sure how much of this is just my love for the sound of the piano and how much of it is the rearrangement of the songs, though.

Sean Carruthers, Monday, 14 March 2011 18:03 (fourteen years ago)

"Amore", yep, that's the track, thank you

frogbs, Monday, 14 March 2011 18:05 (fourteen years ago)

Found this while perusing the information superhighway.

http://mutant-sounds.blogspot.com/2008/01/vatokyo-mobile-musiclp1982uk.html

MaresNest, Monday, 14 March 2011 22:37 (fourteen years ago)

been distantly aware of this dude for a really long time and finally picked something up last week and i'm pretty into it! that Left Handed Dream one frogbs mentioned. excellent investment! ($0.49 x 25% employee discount iirc)

arby's, Monday, 14 March 2011 22:45 (fourteen years ago)

Playing the Piano is lovely

gravity tractor VS asteroid B612 (m coleman), Monday, 14 March 2011 23:56 (fourteen years ago)

Just had a listen to Beauty again; yep, "Amore" is definitely a beautiful tune, but this album is really wonky as a whole - "Rose Music" just irritates me.

If you want to hear the difference between Sakamoto and Hosono, listen to both versions of the Okinawan folk song "Asatoya Yunta" (on the albums Beauty and Paraiso). Sakamoto's is very crisp, precise, and beautiful, while Hosono's is surreal and exotic, to the point where it sounds like the vocals were recorded backwards. I love both versions but Hosono's is really something special.

frogbs, Tuesday, 15 March 2011 14:04 (fourteen years ago)

OoooOOOooooh this has "War Head" on it!! Really wish he wrote more songs like that!!!

frogbs, Wednesday, 16 March 2011 17:43 (fourteen years ago)

yeah — it's like the loopiest songs from Multiplies with awesome synth sounds

corey, Wednesday, 16 March 2011 18:05 (fourteen years ago)

one year passes...

http://nonukes2012.jp/en/

Milton Parker, Tuesday, 10 July 2012 05:33 (thirteen years ago)

That is a lineup worthy of international attention

Also think it's going to be the first time sakamoto and otomo yoshihide have collaborated

http://www.japantimes.co.jp/text/fm20120705a1.html#.T_u_dRB5lP4

Milton Parker, Tuesday, 10 July 2012 05:41 (thirteen years ago)

I mean, was

And I guess I mean: I'm surprised to have only found out about a kraftwerk / ymo concert the week after it happens

Milton Parker, Tuesday, 10 July 2012 06:01 (thirteen years ago)

http://www.japantimes.co.jp/text/nn20120717a1.html#.UASBKhB5mSM

Milton Parker, Monday, 16 July 2012 21:04 (thirteen years ago)

ummm, can we please get a DVD of this guys?

frogbs, Monday, 16 July 2012 21:11 (thirteen years ago)

three months pass...

I hate to be negative, but I really dislike the piano versions of his older songs — it makes me think of when someone orchestrates the music from the Final Fantasy games. Chintzy and artificial the originals sounds might be, they're a huge part of why I enjoy this music so much, and piano versions just turn them into elevator music imo.

I dunno if you were referring to 1996 but I'm listening to it now and it's absolutely gorgeous. I think the artificiality kind of takes me out of it a bit - not on stuff like Ongaku Zukan or Neo Geo, but maybe on the albums past that. I had no idea "Bibo no Aozora" had such a haunting melody because it's covered up with dusty trip-hop drums and bad vocals.

frogbs, Tuesday, 13 November 2012 20:30 (twelve years ago)

find if you can /04 and /05, two great sakamoto-covers-himself-mostly-on-piano records

Brakhage, Wednesday, 14 November 2012 18:38 (twelve years ago)

five months pass...

'all star video: ryuichi sakamoto by nam june paik'

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=59MCqEjRFnI

Milton Parker, Monday, 29 April 2013 19:07 (twelve years ago)

oh my god

puff puff post (uh oh I'm having a fantasy), Tuesday, 30 April 2013 01:56 (twelve years ago)

did anyone see this? http://eyelevel.si.edu/2013/04/nam-june-paik-musician-and-media-artist-stephen-vitiello-interviews-composer-ryuichi-sakamoto.html

puff puff post (uh oh I'm having a fantasy), Tuesday, 30 April 2013 02:00 (twelve years ago)

a few years back I saw a film that I think was soundtracked by Sakamoto, very soft and minimal synth and piano music, with the visuals being mostly black with white rectangles fading in and out based on the piano notes. I think. Ring a bell for anyone?

the kind of man who best draws girls' eyeballs (Merdeyeux), Tuesday, 30 April 2013 02:33 (twelve years ago)

one year passes...

wings of honneamise OST is really good man. esp "F A D E":
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U8nunklJx7o

original bgm, Friday, 9 May 2014 04:36 (eleven years ago)

two months pass...

Oof, sad news:

http://blogs.wsj.com/japanrealtime/2014/07/10/ryuichi-sakamoto-diagnosed-with-throat-cancer/

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 10 July 2014 12:40 (eleven years ago)

:-/

original bgm, Thursday, 10 July 2014 15:22 (eleven years ago)

oof, how awful. all the best to him :(

Maggie killed Quagmire (collest baby ever) (frogbs), Friday, 18 July 2014 18:32 (eleven years ago)

two months pass...

Anyone who's a fan, if music that sounds like a combination of Naughty Boys and Ongaku Zukan appeals to you, search out the Works I - CM disc. It's basically a comp of all the commercial music Sakamoto composed between 1982 and 1984, a lot sounding like YMO outtakes, though most are instrumental. Akiko Yano is on a few fits. Nothing too adventurous but it's essentially Sakamoto's own version of Coincidental Music.

Maggie killed Quagmire (collest baby ever) (frogbs), Tuesday, 23 September 2014 20:21 (ten years ago)

CM/TV is also excellent

Deverly (Bangelo), Tuesday, 23 September 2014 21:28 (ten years ago)

yeah, those comps are great. "perky jean" is a favorite:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=55pAtVe-7VE

original bgm, Wednesday, 24 September 2014 02:30 (ten years ago)

this gets stuck in my head a lot

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wiz1dEJ3l7M

clouds, Wednesday, 24 September 2014 02:39 (ten years ago)

YOU! YOU!

clouds, Wednesday, 24 September 2014 02:39 (ten years ago)

hahaha awesome

original bgm, Wednesday, 24 September 2014 02:49 (ten years ago)

CM/TV is also excellent

yup I'm listening to it now; it's mostly the same tunes though isn't it?

Maggie killed Quagmire (collest baby ever) (frogbs), Wednesday, 24 September 2014 12:29 (ten years ago)

whoa, there's a Penguin Cafe Orchestra cover on here (???)

Maggie killed Quagmire (collest baby ever) (frogbs), Wednesday, 24 September 2014 13:08 (ten years ago)

three months pass...

Turns 63 today!!

Abstinence Hawk (frogbs), Saturday, 17 January 2015 07:10 (ten years ago)

he's a god.

soyrev, Saturday, 17 January 2015 08:33 (ten years ago)

two months pass...

I recently got Beauty based on the Allmusic review and "album pick" status. I'm now halfway through and holy crap, this is maybe one of the worst albums I've purchased in years.

ed.b, Friday, 3 April 2015 03:42 (ten years ago)

Every time I see this thread bumped I fear I'm going to read that he's died.

Naive Teen Idol, Friday, 3 April 2015 04:32 (ten years ago)

xp "beauty" hasn't aged well it's true

i had the same thought, wish him well.

clouds, Friday, 3 April 2015 05:29 (ten years ago)

Oh God, me too, hope he's doing well.

According to the YMO Media Fan's FB page there's another mad exhibition of YMO's gear and artwork in Japan somewhere, lot's of geeky photo's of their equipment popping up.

MaresNest, Friday, 3 April 2015 09:25 (ten years ago)

I myself don't have the slightest problem with Beauty or any other music "aging" objectively (if that were possible). I have aged; I've found my tastes have expanded, taking in and not excluding anything I have seriously enjoyed before. I'm still enjoying Beauty as I did back in the day, and still find it one of his best realised albums.

on the cancer front, the latest news is he's beaten it.

there's a slew of MIDI/Alfa reissues of the early stuff (up to and including Esperanto) that's been released recently, nice 2-cd edition of Ongaku Zukan and other stuff. details here: http://www.cdjapan.co.jp/product/MDCL-5034

Max Florian, Friday, 3 April 2015 10:17 (ten years ago)

Oh wow, that's AWESOME!

MaresNest, Friday, 3 April 2015 10:21 (ten years ago)

really? i would be so happy! my internet is garbage right now so i actually can't check, but last i looked (~a month ago) his website still had the cancer notice posted...

soyrev, Friday, 3 April 2015 10:58 (ten years ago)

Didn't realize he was sick :( Hope he legitimately has beaten it though.

I've been passovely looking out for copies of Esperanto ever since I saw the thread on it here. Apropos S/D, what else is good in that vein (i.e. more,mfor lack of a better word, "weird")?

ed.b, Friday, 3 April 2015 11:44 (ten years ago)

Every time I see this thread bumped I fear I'm going to read that he's died.

no kidding, really glad to see he's doing better

Beauty is still decent to my ears, I still think "Amore" is one of the best songs he's ever done. If you don't like it definitely don't get any of the albums that followed it until 1996, cuz I do think he tailed off quite a bit afterwards.

Abstinence Hawk (frogbs), Friday, 3 April 2015 14:32 (ten years ago)

Smoochy was 1996 and that's fantastic, or is that what you're saying, that the 1990-95 period is underwhelming, but then he rallied?

soref, Friday, 3 April 2015 14:36 (ten years ago)

I too love Smoochy, and Heartbeat (1992) as well. I also think Chasm, his last 'glitch pop' album (2004) is grand. He mostly fell off my radar after that, mainly because that minimal ambient electronica is not my forte, but I'm meaning to check all that newer stuff too. There's nothing in his catalogue that's inherently bad - his output being so diversified, it's just a matter of what's up your alley at any given time.

Max Florian, Friday, 3 April 2015 15:02 (ten years ago)

xp yeah that's what I'm saying, don't remember much of Smoochy but that sort of lighter, more hip-hop driven pop he was doing never really did it for me. the album 1996 was pretty damn good though and cast a new light on a lot of those tunes.

Chasm was one of the first I'd heard from him and I thought it was awesome - it was his first new album since I'd gotten into him and I kinda figured he'd be doing albums like it for a long time, just long amalgams of his entire career like that. I'm not much a fan of the recent collabs he's done with people like Fennesz and Alva Noto, putting harsh distortion over minimal piano bits isn't interesting in the slightest to me. Still wanna hear his newer solo piano stuff.

Abstinence Hawk (frogbs), Friday, 3 April 2015 15:17 (ten years ago)

I've been passovely looking out for copies of Esperanto ever since I saw the thread on it here. Apropos S/D, what else is good in that vein (i.e. more,mfor lack of a better word, "weird")?

― ed.b, Friday, April 3, 2015 6:44 AM (2 hours ago)

b-2 unit is his other really weird one, more like early 80s post punk/industrial bricolage electro -- sounds v advanced for the time

ongaku zukan is probably my most played album by him but it is more in a melodic art pop vein but still quite experimental in parts.

futurista has a couple tracks that sound like esperanto but suspect you will hate some of the pop songs (w/ the vocalist from the peech boys)

the "field work" single's b-side "exhibition" is still the strangest music he's ever done -- and one of the best.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gLm5hvuhtWA

the entire piece is 15 mins

clouds, Friday, 3 April 2015 15:26 (ten years ago)

Search: Thousand Knives (!!), B2 Unit (!!), Tokyo Joe, Adventures of Chatran OST, CBL (!!), Disappearance, Cinemage, CM / TV (!! seriously astonishing collection of TV spots and the like), Comica, Derrida OST, Merry Christmas Mr. Lawrence OST (!!), Ongaku Zukan, Playing the Piano (extended Japanese version has some worthwhile additions), Smoochy OST, Shining Boy & Little Randy OST (!!), Silk OST (!!), Soundbytes comp (!!), Soundtracks live comp (!!), High Heels OST, UTAU instrumentals disc, Wuthering Heights OST, Year Book 2005-2014, /04 (!!), /05 (!!), 1996 (!! w/ bonus tracks why not)
Consider: Chasm (lot of dreck, but some unbelievable stuff on there), BTTB, Casa, A Day in New York, The End Of Asia, Esperanto, Heartbeat (lotta shit, some greatness), Image Sketch, Little Buddha OST, Century of Reform (some dumb arrangement choices but the "Rhodes Version" tracks are top tier new age/ambient), Futurista, Neo Geo, Out Of Noise, Three, Harakiri OST, all of his late period collaborations with western ambient people
Destroy: Bricolages (mostly boring remixes by other artists), Femme Fatale OST, Summer Nerves, fuckawful Sweet Revenge album (though title track is gold), UTAU, トニー滝谷

and more, but fuck it

soyrev, Friday, 3 April 2015 15:31 (ten years ago)

three months pass...

Can anybody help? The music on this vid at 5:15 onwards, I think it is really well known, is it a Sakamoto piece? Killing me...

https://youtu.be/-XVIFadHzZ8?t=5m14s

MaresNest, Monday, 20 July 2015 11:19 (ten years ago)

nope, not so well known. seems to be a version of material from Ryuichi's (completely gorgeous) Shining Boy & Little Randy OST. Ryuichi rearranges and re-titles themes all the time in his soundtracks, so without relistening through the whole thing i can't say for sure that this version isn't on the soundtrack itself, but knowing him and the circumstances it's probably one of his self-covers. nobody does a better job of consistently reimagining their own material...

skimming the soundtrack now it sounds like this uses bits and pieces throughout the whole thing, most of which isn't on youtube, but here's the full-blown theme itself

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Cj3Sy1nf1s

soyrev, Monday, 20 July 2015 11:33 (ten years ago)

if you dig it, you'd profit well from tracking down as much of his soundtrack work and self-cover albums as you can. it's astonishing how much gutting pentatonic beauty he keeps on deck

soyrev, Monday, 20 July 2015 11:35 (ten years ago)

after some more itunes spelunking, the version on the /05 live piano album is closer to what you hear in your video

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=geDUXEoOCwE

soyrev, Monday, 20 July 2015 11:40 (ten years ago)

Thanks so much! I have /05, I quickly zipped through /04 and Playing The Piano but couldn't find it, what a lovely track.

MaresNest, Monday, 20 July 2015 11:49 (ten years ago)

nice! the Shining Boy OST, if you don't have it, has some really nice variations on the theme, less over-the-top than the one in that youtube

soyrev, Monday, 20 July 2015 11:57 (ten years ago)

I will check it out, I'm def in the mood for some melancholic Sakamoto piano.

MaresNest, Monday, 20 July 2015 13:01 (ten years ago)

six months pass...

http://www.factmag.com/2016/02/03/ryuichi-sakamoto-alva-noto-interview/

lute bro (brimstead), Thursday, 4 February 2016 09:50 (nine years ago)

eleven months pass...

New album announced -- sole details in email:

20170428

2XLP + CD + DIGITAL

A little more at his site:

http://www.sitesakamoto.com/

Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 17 January 2017 15:24 (eight years ago)

geez, what is it??

dude's been incredibly busy with soundtracks and collabs these last 10 years, but as far as actual studio material would this be the first since Out of Noise in 2009?

hard to believe Chasm was 13 years ago. that seemed like such a career-rejuvenating album at the time, like his entire resume on one disc. looking around now it appears the collabs were a bit more famous.

frogbs, Tuesday, 17 January 2017 15:31 (eight years ago)

what I mean to say is, if it's anything other than solo piano or glitch-ambient I'll get excited

frogbs, Tuesday, 17 January 2017 15:31 (eight years ago)

It's his 65th birthday today!

Le Bateau Ivre, Tuesday, 17 January 2017 16:12 (eight years ago)

one month passes...

More piano + glitch?

http://pitchfork.com/news/71081-ryuichi-sakamoto-announces-new-album-async/

MaresNest, Thursday, 16 March 2017 10:26 (eight years ago)

The beauty of "Merry Christmas Mr. Lawrence" makes me tear up to this day.

yesca, Thursday, 16 March 2017 18:49 (eight years ago)

two weeks pass...

anyone hear the new one yet?

have just been alerted to the presence of Year Book 2005-2014, a compilation of commissioned work that thus far has gone unreleased. his other commercial music comps have been great so I would guess this one is as well.

frogbs, Monday, 3 April 2017 15:50 (eight years ago)

Got the new one, and currently on a second listen.

In short, it's fab. Yes, it's ambient/glitch (which may disappoint a few upthread) but with a much less austere tonal palette than the collaboration records (where he was basically adding piano ornaments to other people's dronescapes, not that there's anything wrong with that). It's low key but colourful - lurrrrvely Prophet 5 chords on Zure, for example. And the odd melodic flourish that'll make you well up a bit in places too.

Will see how it plays out over subsequent listens, but I'm loving it so far. What with the Revenant soundtrack being his best OST in years, his post-illness return to work on such stellar form is an inspiring thing to behold.

bamboohouses, Monday, 3 April 2017 17:24 (eight years ago)

Is there a track with David Sylvian on the new one?..,

X-Prince Protégé (sonnyboy), Monday, 3 April 2017 22:45 (eight years ago)

one month passes...

new album is pretty amazing

I got da Midas touch as you fucking were LG x (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 3 May 2017 20:51 (eight years ago)

^
i really like the combination of introspective, lyrical piano pieces with sound art tracks on async.

Alex in Spree-Athen (alex in mainhattan), Monday, 8 May 2017 10:15 (eight years ago)

Great album

Jay Elettronica Viva (Whiney G. Weingarten), Monday, 8 May 2017 13:32 (eight years ago)

yup

change display name (Jordan), Monday, 8 May 2017 15:42 (eight years ago)

he's in NYC next weekend for a film retro of his scores

https://quadcinema.com/program/forbidden-colours-ryuichi-sakamoto-at-the-movies/

Supercreditor (Dr Morbius), Monday, 8 May 2017 15:45 (eight years ago)

The Revenant too recent for a retrospective?

a landlocked exclave (mh), Monday, 8 May 2017 15:54 (eight years ago)

could be

also an arthouse venue

Supercreditor (Dr Morbius), Monday, 8 May 2017 16:04 (eight years ago)

true

a landlocked exclave (mh), Monday, 8 May 2017 16:05 (eight years ago)

one year passes...

while aysnc just breezed by like a cool autumn day on the first few listens, I've recently returned to it and found it to be a stunner. I thought his previous solo album Out of Noise was kind of boring but I really like the "14 flavors of ambient" thing going on here, not to mention how the title/theme "async" manifests itself in several ways. I wish it was a bit more melodic but only because the actual melodies on here are absolutely gorgeous. I like the plinky plonky stuff. Reminds me a bit of The Ship by Eno, not in any thematic way but rather how the openness and sense of space lets you hear the compositions in a number of ways.

frogbs, Tuesday, 8 May 2018 15:01 (seven years ago)

also it occurred to me that this is sort of a spiritual successor to B-2 Unit and Esperanto in some ways

frogbs, Tuesday, 8 May 2018 15:02 (seven years ago)

two months pass...

Doco & a concert film coming our way soon, which likely means US/UK audience have already had a chance to see them - any good?

Ryuichi Sakamoto: CODA
Ryuichi Sakamoto: async Live at the Park Avenue Armory

etc, Monday, 23 July 2018 08:15 (seven years ago)

doc is playing in NY, haven't seen it yet

the ignatius rock of ignorance (Dr Morbius), Monday, 23 July 2018 10:07 (seven years ago)

There was a one-off showing in DC that I missed. Read that it shows his interest in director Tarkovsky

curmudgeon, Monday, 23 July 2018 16:53 (seven years ago)

Last fall a friend told me a story about Ryuichi Sakamoto, the renowned musician and composer who lives in the West Village. Mr. Sakamoto, it seems, so likes a particular Japanese restaurant in Murray Hill, and visits it so often, that he finally had to be straight with the chef: He could not bear the music it played for its patrons.

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/07/23/dining/restaurant-music-playlists-ryuichi-sakamoto.html

o. nate, Tuesday, 24 July 2018 01:03 (seven years ago)

Tony Rayns in sight and sound said:

Moderately interesting but deeply unsatisfying, this not-very-intimate portrait of the musician Sakamoto Ryuichi covers a lot of ground without revealing or even suggesting anything surprising to anyone who has followed Sakamoto’s career...

His private life was evidently off-limits: there’s no mention of either of his marriages, or of his reportedly on-going relationship with his manager, with whom he has two children. As far as the film is concerned, Sakamoto lives and works alone...

Television’s appetite for films like this one is so voracious that most pass by more or less unexamined; criticism of the form of such ‘arts docs’ remains stuck at a fairly primitive level...

Schible’s film is far from the worst offender among recent arts docs, {but while} Its picture of Sakamoto recovering from cancer and getting his musical juices flowing again is mildly diverting, its impact is minimal and its methods are desultory.

Britain's Sexiest Cow (jed_), Tuesday, 24 July 2018 01:34 (seven years ago)

actually, I can paste the whole review from a pdf, if you want, but that's pretty much it.

Britain's Sexiest Cow (jed_), Tuesday, 24 July 2018 01:36 (seven years ago)

fwiw, Rayns had much more interesting things to say about Schrader's First Reformed in the same issue. He didn't like that either.

Britain's Sexiest Cow (jed_), Tuesday, 24 July 2018 01:39 (seven years ago)

amazing detail in that restaurant music piece:

It was also not very loud, and here we arrive at an issue that may concern older customers more than younger ones. Mr. Sakamoto objects to loud restaurant music, and often uses a decibel meter on his phone to measure the volume of the sound around him.

would love to eat at a restaurant with that playlist tbh.

Roz, Tuesday, 24 July 2018 04:45 (seven years ago)

I want to eat in that restuarnat the next time I am in NYC

curmudgeon, Friday, 27 July 2018 04:38 (seven years ago)

that sakamoto dinner time playlist is excellent, by the way.

for those with spotify, search "The Kajitsu Playlist". it's good BGM for dinner, perhaps, but it's also good BGM for wandering around your house and living

Karl Malone, Friday, 27 July 2018 16:00 (seven years ago)

cool, thx

sleeve, Friday, 27 July 2018 16:04 (seven years ago)

Saw the film last night in San Francisco, absolutely loved it

joshywinty (josh), Saturday, 28 July 2018 22:28 (seven years ago)

I saw sakamoto in kajitsu a few years ago! it's a wonderful restaurant.

I can't say I loved the doc, but if you're a fan, I see no reason not to catch it. it's enjoyable. I esp liked the field recording scenes.

not much YMO content tho, it's pretty focused on his solo material and especially the last few years. I caught a Q&A session with RS and the director and they mentioned that interviews with hosono and takahashi specifically conducted for the film were edited out. oof!

(⊙_⊙?) (original bgm), Thursday, 2 August 2018 18:23 (seven years ago)

one month passes...

Caught 'Coda' on telly last night. A very ambient documentary, no real narrative, just being able to see Sakamoto hunt for and record sounds, playing about in the studio, reminiscing. Needles to say I loved it. What a handsome man he is, too. See this if you can.

Favourite scene: Him trying to get a nice sound on his terrace. He puts a glass vase upside down to record the ticking of the rain drops, but it's not quite what he's after. He then picks up a blue bucket, looks at it for a while, and then puts it on his head, steps outside, and we see him from behind listening to the rain fall on the bucket on his head. Tranquil and endearing.

lbi's life of limitless european glamour (Le Bateau Ivre), Friday, 7 September 2018 07:33 (seven years ago)

yea I've heard a lot about what this doc *isn't* so I've been wondering what exactly it is. if it's just 2 hours of him messing around i'll still watch it

frogbs, Friday, 7 September 2018 13:55 (seven years ago)

I saw it a couple of months ago, and I thought it was great. Doesn't interrogate him very hard, but it's a v enjoyable 90 mins of hanging out with an interesting guy who does interesting things in an interesting way.

bamboohouses, Friday, 7 September 2018 14:47 (seven years ago)

@Britain's Sexiest Cow (jed_)
Could you please post the full review of Tony Wayns of Coda? I'm very interested to know what else he said. I searched with Google but could not find the review.
Thanks!

brunhild, Wednesday, 19 September 2018 03:47 (six years ago)

one month passes...

anybody heard the 2015 deluxe reissue of Ongaku Zukan/Illustrated Musical Encyclopedia? fully loaded with bonus tracks + a whole extra disc of unreleased stuff

brimstead, Thursday, 25 October 2018 02:24 (six years ago)

Wow! No, but I want to.

An Uphill Battle For Legumes (Capitaine Jay Vee), Thursday, 25 October 2018 03:11 (six years ago)

It's fantastic. Also, weirdly, it's on Spotify (and I presume a bunch of other stream/download sites): https://open.spotify.com/album/2CI4X2v5UpNLxh6RFpspHR?si=YJFSsKveR9Sj-oPc_lZ5OA

The original Ongakuzukan tracklisting is so much better than the Illustrated Musical Encyclopedia version...

bamboohouses, Thursday, 25 October 2018 07:45 (six years ago)

It astonishes me that someone with a back catalogue as sprawling as Sakamoto's still has over an hour's worth of unreleased material, makes you wonder how much more there is.

GG Allin: The Musical (Matt #2), Thursday, 25 October 2018 08:27 (six years ago)

uh wow, that looks pretty excellent. will have to be on the lookout.

I wonder if there's any overlap with this:

https://www.discogs.com/Ryuichi-Sakamoto-Works-I-CM/release/2283320

which is mostly Sakamoto doing commercial music, but believe it or not, it's very good

frogbs, Thursday, 25 October 2018 13:39 (six years ago)

Merry Christmas Mr Lawrence and Hidariude No Yume were also reissued with bonus discs of outtakes and unreleased stuff, and then there's been four volumes of the Year Book series (the latest volume of which, 1985-1989, has five discs). I think there's a LOT of stuff in the vault!

bamboohouses, Thursday, 25 October 2018 14:24 (six years ago)

I love his commercial music!

brimstead, Thursday, 25 October 2018 14:45 (six years ago)

listening to the Ongaku Zukan/Illustrated Musical Encyclopedia reissue now, thanks for the head's up! speaking of sakamoto:

.@0PN's next EP for @WarpRecords includes a remix by master composer @ryuichisakamoto https://t.co/FeSnqS0MxL

— Resident Advisor (@residentadvisor) October 25, 2018

Karl Malone, Thursday, 25 October 2018 17:36 (six years ago)

four weeks pass...

Listening to this as well. A lot of it is basically his fusion album – Japanese melodies over Gaucho-ish horn arrangements, Fairlights pads and electronic percussion. It goes down pretty easily but has some nice 80s production touches. The first track was stuck in head this am and is a full-on YMO reunion cum big band. YMBB?

Naive Teen Idol, Thursday, 22 November 2018 14:46 (six years ago)

This = Ongaku Zukan

Naive Teen Idol, Thursday, 22 November 2018 14:52 (six years ago)

Also, listening to this makes me realize how long it took before I really *got* Sakamoto. I think my first exposure to him was on Sylvian’s first several records and Gentlemen Take Polaroids . I also read the entry about him in the Trouser Press Record Guide (an early bible for me) – the descriptions of his pedigree and Japanese-Western fusion experiments made his records sound incredibly exotic but very little of his catalogue (or YMO’s) was available then (early 90s).

When I finally heard Neo Geo, the followup to Ongaku and produced by Bill Laswell (Sakamoto was kind of the designated Fairlight guy in his Session All-Stars around that time – he’s the one noodling at the beginning of the last track on PiL’s Album), I was a little underwhelmed. It was the first of his own releases featuring big names, and while there were hints of what I would eventually love about him, it had fewer textural experiments and less ambition than I had hoped for. The same was largely true of Heartbeat, the two solid Sylvian collaborations aside.

It was only when I happened upon a cutout Dutch copy of Left Handed Dream and Technodelic at Borders Books and Music that I began to understand what the fuss was about. Yes, he can be overly sentimental at times but at its best the orchestral and Japanese formalism sounds fabulous juxtaposed with various electronic experiments.

Even still, it’s never been very easy to get a complete picture of his output – I’ve still never seen a physical copy of B-2 Unit and I literally just heard Illustrated/Ongaku this week, which are hugely important records in his catalogue.

Naive Teen Idol, Friday, 23 November 2018 17:27 (six years ago)

five months pass...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MUaNz9M8fs8

this is extremely cool

frogbs, Saturday, 27 April 2019 04:07 (six years ago)

maybe my favorite single of the year thus far actually

frogbs, Friday, 3 May 2019 14:45 (six years ago)

ten months pass...

Over the last month I've been really diving into his solo works (with some mixed results). I've been delighted to find albums such as B-2 Unit and Esperanto have finally clicked with me. The original version of Illustrated Musical Encyclopedia was a revelation too. Async was the clear standout of his later works although there's still a lot I haven't listened to.

The biggest find is the Works I - CM compilation mentioned a couple of times on this thread by frogbs. That is an incredible collection of music that I've probably played ten times in the last week alone. Great tip on that one!

kitchen person, Thursday, 26 March 2020 17:29 (five years ago)

Isn’t it though? Love it!

brimstead, Thursday, 26 March 2020 18:34 (five years ago)

I honestly can't stop listening to it. I notice there is a volume two as well. Hopefully that's a similar quality as I'm going to need another fix soon.

kitchen person, Thursday, 26 March 2020 20:19 (five years ago)

nice, thanks for bumping it!

Karl Malone, Thursday, 26 March 2020 20:23 (five years ago)

https://pc.video.dmkt-sp.jp/ft/s0007155

It looks like Sakamoto is doing a live streaming performance next week on something called DTV, who also seem to be streaming a few other gigs of his from the last few years.

It being a Japanese streaming site, it appears to be completely locked down (I couldn't get anything to play even with a VPN) but someone here might have better luck than me?

bamboohouses, Friday, 27 March 2020 18:11 (five years ago)

So the stream seems to be up and running here: https://pc.video.dmkt-sp.jp/ti/10000238
Working fine VPN'ed into Japan.

They're showing a 2011 gig now, apparently the live stream starts at 7pm Japan time. (11am here in London!)

bamboohouses, Thursday, 2 April 2020 09:37 (five years ago)

one month passes...

enjoy

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X6td9KUZMfw&pbjreload=10

Hmmmmm (jamiesummerz), Monday, 18 May 2020 07:14 (five years ago)

hmm not sure if that worked... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X6td9KUZMfw

Hmmmmm (jamiesummerz), Monday, 18 May 2020 07:20 (five years ago)

three weeks pass...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yv3Iqzpv3_I

In this documentary, filmed while he was recording Ongaku Zukan, Sakamoto mentions that he has recorded 30 tracks for the album from which he will choose ten, so I'm guessing that's where the supplemental material for the reissue came from.

Maresn3st, Wednesday, 10 June 2020 16:37 (five years ago)

five months pass...

Realized this am that the record he produced and arranged for Virginia Astley, Hope in a Darkened Heart, is really required listening for anyone interested in Ryuichi’s mid-80s classy orchestral Fairlight experimental pop phase, a la Ongaku Zukan and his contemporaneous work w David Sylvian.

It’s a legitimately weird record – with nursery rhyme-melodies sung in Astley’s little girl falsetto over Ryuichi’s booming gated drums, sequenced music boxes and gamelans. The duet with Sylvian himself that leads off the record is a pretty unique entry in his catalogue:

https://open.spotify.com/track/5nwDAFzUqt7hVVsKoWGcJN?si=xX7P9oCVScqGde8qpsO5eg

Naive Teen Idol, Monday, 7 December 2020 14:41 (four years ago)

Ohhh! Thanks for the recommendation, sounds ace!

Maresn3st, Monday, 7 December 2020 15:00 (four years ago)

It is! And if you want to go the Bandcamp route

https://virginiaastley.bandcamp.com/

Ned Raggett, Monday, 7 December 2020 16:13 (four years ago)

Finally watched the Playing Piano for the Isolated concert last week. It's great!

The New York Times' effect on man (Sund4r), Monday, 7 December 2020 16:16 (four years ago)

NIT's spotify link is to a mellow 80's compilation :)
Still, having checked the Virginia Astley album, I thank you! Lovely stuff, esp. the latter half. Loved reading up on her, too

willem, Tuesday, 8 December 2020 14:19 (four years ago)

one month passes...

69 years old today

he's currently flooding Twitter with birthday wishes causing me to come to the realization that he is a strikingly handsome man, even today

frogbs, Sunday, 17 January 2021 21:54 (four years ago)

nice

boz conspiracy by toby hus (voodoo chili), Sunday, 17 January 2021 22:40 (four years ago)

Bad news:

https://thequietus.com/articles/29458-ryuichi-sakamoto-diagnosed-bowel-cancer

kieth chagrin (NickB), Thursday, 21 January 2021 13:28 (four years ago)

Nooooooooooooooooooo :(

Maresn3st, Thursday, 21 January 2021 14:08 (four years ago)

Oh man :(

A Scampo Darkly (Le Bateau Ivre), Thursday, 21 January 2021 14:11 (four years ago)

ugh, hopefully he pulls through :(

boz conspiracy by toby hus (voodoo chili), Thursday, 21 January 2021 14:24 (four years ago)

Ah, fuck. :(

pomenitul, Thursday, 21 January 2021 14:25 (four years ago)

jesus, no

frogbs, Thursday, 21 January 2021 15:08 (four years ago)

hoping the best for him. Takahashi had a brain tumor removed just a few months ago, as well. :(

Karl Malone, Thursday, 21 January 2021 17:15 (four years ago)

its hard to gauge the tone of YT's social media posts, he seems optimistic but apparently he's not out of the woods yet

frogbs, Thursday, 21 January 2021 17:24 (four years ago)

four weeks pass...

the one time I randomly catch an episode of Brooklyn Nine-Nine:

https://www.instagram.com/p/BuelFc2j1VM/

frogbs, Thursday, 18 February 2021 15:59 (four years ago)

Heart does a flip again now when I see this thread bumped.

The Goodies font (Maresn3st), Thursday, 18 February 2021 16:35 (four years ago)

Me too :(

Chewshabadoo, Thursday, 18 February 2021 16:41 (four years ago)

Then enjoy this instead, as he has the closing track

https://modernobscuremusic.bandcamp.com/album/prsnt

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 18 February 2021 17:37 (four years ago)

three weeks pass...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hC5Ry5092Pk

Maresn3st, Thursday, 11 March 2021 09:40 (four years ago)

one month passes...

now here's a powerful image

https://i.imgur.com/RtP0rpZ.png

frogbs, Monday, 12 April 2021 19:43 (four years ago)

I would listen to this crossover.

Ned Raggett, Monday, 12 April 2021 19:53 (four years ago)

btw before anyone asks I have no idea what the context of this is, I just saw it in a YMO FB group. i wish i knew

frogbs, Tuesday, 13 April 2021 01:16 (four years ago)

Money Mark
February 24, 2012
Ryuichi Sakamoto, Keith Emerson!…i’m standing with two of the very best!!….YMO,ELP….backstage,Hollywood Bowl

visiting, Tuesday, 13 April 2021 02:28 (four years ago)

one year passes...

new album is heavy. maybe it's knowing about his health struggles, maybe it's because YT recently passed, but wow is there a lot of weight to what is essentially a solo piano album (there are some synths too of course). you can even hear him breathing throughout. almost sounds like he's struggling sometimes.

frogbs, Wednesday, 25 January 2023 15:20 (two years ago)

like I'm listening on headphones and I keep thinking someone is behind me

frogbs, Wednesday, 25 January 2023 15:22 (two years ago)

While I thought async was elegiac this new one, 12, is almost too much.

SQUIRREL MEAT!! (Capitaine Jay Vee), Wednesday, 25 January 2023 15:28 (two years ago)

oh man, yeah, “heavy” is the right word. I’m usually not a fan of his solo piano stuff either but this one is hitting differently for sure. haven’t quite decided if it’s due to the circumstances but don’t think it’s just that. hits pretty hard in any case and isn’t something i can just throw on casually.

(⊙_⊙?) (original bgm), Thursday, 26 January 2023 01:54 (two years ago)

the least interesting ymo member. i consider his solo output pretty overrated. on the other hand, hosono and takahashi solo material is pretty consistent.

CerebralCaustic, Friday, 27 January 2023 15:31 (two years ago)

the least interesting ymo member. i consider his solo output pretty overrated. on the other hand, hosono and takahashi solo material is pretty consistent.

CerebralCaustic, Friday, 27 January 2023 15:32 (two years ago)

Geeta Dayal with an excellent piece on the album:

https://4columns.org/dayal-geeta/ryuichi-sakamoto

Ned Raggett, Friday, 27 January 2023 16:25 (two years ago)

CerebralCaustic, I can understand that opinion if you're solely judging based on solo albums. But have you checked out Sakamoto's production/arrangement work? It's incredible. Taeko Onuki and Akiko Yano's early-to-mid '80s albums, for starters? It's incredible.

Tough Cookie, Friday, 27 January 2023 17:04 (two years ago)

12 has turned into a daily play for me. i hope he can release more music, but if he doesn't, it's a powerful final act.

Karl Malone, Friday, 27 January 2023 17:09 (two years ago)

xxpost nonsense

SQUIRREL MEAT!! (Capitaine Jay Vee), Friday, 27 January 2023 18:50 (two years ago)

fwiw Sakamoto is my "least favorite" of the three too, only because Hosono's music is very spiritual and precious to me and Takahashi has done so much stuff I absolutely love, while Sakamoto has a bunch of albums I'm just not really too interested in. that said I still love him and own a lot of his solo albums. so "least favorite" isn't really a term I like using. pound for pound surely YMO is one of the greatest bands in history

frogbs, Friday, 27 January 2023 19:17 (two years ago)

Geeta's review was nice. wonder what she's been up to?? not posting on ILX I see.

frogbs, Friday, 27 January 2023 19:18 (two years ago)

four weeks pass...

This sounds fun. Guess I'll probably get to see it at Big Ears.

https://www.instagram.com/p/CpAnOjCM7iB/?utm_source=ig_web_copy_link

a man often referred to in the news media as the Duke of Saxony (tipsy mothra), Friday, 24 February 2023 03:23 (two years ago)

agree on Hosonos output being the most consistently good one,
but Sakamoto and Takahashi both had their fair share of bland assembly-line productions, no?
Both LOTS of great ones too, obviously...
I think async is the best Sakamoto has been on album length in a long time, really love that one.
Have yet to hear 12.

Pagoda, Friday, 24 February 2023 10:26 (two years ago)

three weeks pass...

say it ain't so Sakamoto

A Q&A about 12 with @commmons
and Ryuichi Sakamoto
17/20

全体を通して「プログレッシブ ロック」的な感じがしたのですが、いわゆるプログレ感を意識されることはあったのでしょうか?

The whole album has a progressive rock vibe to it but did you have this in mind?

— ryuichi sakamoto (@ryuichisakamoto) March 22, 2023


全くありません。人生でプログレが好きになったことも影響を受けたこともありません。

Not at all. I’ve never in my life liked prog rock and I’ve never been influenced by it either.#skmtnews #ryuichisakamoto #坂本龍一 #twelve

— ryuichi sakamoto (@ryuichisakamoto) March 22, 2023

frogbs, Wednesday, 22 March 2023 17:57 (two years ago)

It's cool. I have never heard any Prog influence in RS or his projects. Dunno what the person asking the question was listening to.

SQUIRREL MEAT!! (Capitaine Jay Vee), Wednesday, 22 March 2023 19:51 (two years ago)

It’s an ambient electronic piece? I am still digging into that record somewhat. It’s mixed for 360 reality audio which is pretty cool. But I honestly don’t get the prog connection at all.

Naive Teen Idol, Thursday, 23 March 2023 17:08 (two years ago)

【訃報】音楽家の坂本龍一さん死去 71歳https://t.co/PQ6k4eokvv

80年代に3人組バンド・YMOで世界的ヒット曲を生み出した。映画音楽でも知られ、88年には米映画『ラストエンペラー』で米アカデミー作曲賞を日本人で初めて受賞。晩年はがん闘病が続いたが、最後まで音楽作りに情熱を注いだ。 pic.twitter.com/n7DlL2UdpA

— ライブドアニュース (@livedoornews) April 2, 2023

RIP!

ufo, Sunday, 2 April 2023 12:46 (two years ago)

pic.twitter.com/mYLMEN6HrZ

— ryuichi sakamoto (@ryuichisakamoto) April 2, 2023

ufo, Sunday, 2 April 2023 12:51 (two years ago)

:*(

LaMDA barry-stanners (||||||||), Sunday, 2 April 2023 13:02 (two years ago)

Oh no

MaresNest, Sunday, 2 April 2023 13:04 (two years ago)

Ah damn. But such legacies he and Takahashi left.

Ned Raggett, Sunday, 2 April 2023 13:13 (two years ago)

I was just asking my friend in Tokyo what the deal was when YT passed, and it was front-page news. Sakamoto is probably more well-known. He said it was announced on the little TVs they have on the Yamanote line.

MaresNest, Sunday, 2 April 2023 13:29 (two years ago)

😞

The Triumphant Return of Bernard & Stubbs (Raymond Cummings), Sunday, 2 April 2023 13:53 (two years ago)

Oof. Fuckin cancer.

frogbs, Sunday, 2 April 2023 14:02 (two years ago)

been dreading this news, what a life and career

ludicrously capacious bag (voodoo chili), Sunday, 2 April 2023 14:41 (two years ago)

he lived an amazing life and left behind so much good music. RIP Sakamoto

it's a new day in the international landscape (z_tbd), Sunday, 2 April 2023 15:01 (two years ago)

Oh no 😢

Chewshabadoo, Sunday, 2 April 2023 15:04 (two years ago)

His latest record was already haunting but man it’s too much to bear right now

frogbs, Sunday, 2 April 2023 15:21 (two years ago)

Listening to 12 this morning (for the first time in a month or two) was definitely a changed experience.

The Triumphant Return of Bernard & Stubbs (Raymond Cummings), Sunday, 2 April 2023 15:23 (two years ago)

an artist that, once i discovered him, has never really fallen out of favor or rotation. over half my life now, have always just had him "around" but never really considered him a favorite for whatever reason (seems like he pretty much was the whole time). looking back, very cliche, but what a wholly legendary resume. hard to know what to say when an innovator of his calibre leaves. unending respect. rest well.

''i am the kanye west kanye west thinks he is.'' (Austin), Sunday, 2 April 2023 15:53 (two years ago)

I braced for this everytime I saw a headline about him over the last 7 or so years. I suppose the inevitable is inevitable, and think it’s inspiring that he wasn’t just active until the end, but also through cancer and into his 70s. What an absolute legend. I’m grateful for what RS has given this world.

ed.b, Sunday, 2 April 2023 16:09 (two years ago)

YMO were always such a perfect band for me, because they resembled the 3 parts of a person - YT had the looks, HH had the soul, and RS had the brains. Sakamoto was on a very similar wavelength to Brian Eno, someone who clearly thought about music on a deep and philosophical level. There was such purpose to everything he did, and holy hell did he do a lot of it. async in particular, it says so much despite being fairly minimal. tbh this kind of prevented me from getting into his stuff as much as Takahashi's (whose work is a lot more fun) or Hosono's (whose stuff is more warm and spiritual) - everything Sakamoto did outside of his pop phase had a very particular heaviness to it. His last two especially. async feels like it's bearing the weight of the world. 12 confronts his own mortality in such a direct manner. It's hard to listen to sometimes. But man, it's such brilliant stuff.

frogbs, Sunday, 2 April 2023 16:51 (two years ago)

RIP Ryuichi Sakamoto.
Here he is with anti-nuke mascot Monju-kun in 2012. pic.twitter.com/zqpVTHa2CM

— Mondo Mascots (@mondomascots) April 2, 2023

xyzzzz__, Sunday, 2 April 2023 16:57 (two years ago)

God damn it. RIP.

emil.y, Sunday, 2 April 2023 17:00 (two years ago)

So many heroes going. It's a sadness that can be overwhelming. But we will always have the music.

SQUIRREL MEAT!! (Capitaine Jay Vee), Sunday, 2 April 2023 17:17 (two years ago)

^^^
I've been a fan of RS since discovering him through his (sensational) contributions to David Sylvian's Secrets of the Beehive, 35 years ago. It's like hearing that an old friend has died. A true titan. RIP.

Vast Halo, Sunday, 2 April 2023 18:07 (two years ago)

I was thinking, was that Hosono concert at the Barnican the last time YMO played together?

Daniel_Rf, Sunday, 2 April 2023 18:17 (two years ago)

*Barbican

Daniel_Rf, Sunday, 2 April 2023 18:17 (two years ago)

RIP, what a legend

thought this recent statement he made was beautiful

"Since I have made it this far in life, I hope to be able to make music until my last moment, like Bach and Debussy whom I adore."

i think i will dig out the first mari iijima record, love the songs they did on that one

(⊙_⊙?) (original bgm), Sunday, 2 April 2023 18:18 (two years ago)

Belatedly discovering the broader YMO universe in 2019 was probably the last time I got really excited about a whole swath of music that was more or less unknown to me. I'm grateful that he left behind so much, because I've still only scratched the surface — but I'm angered that he's gone, because I knew he was fighting to keep going and 71 seems too young. It probably doesn't help that I was just reading about diminishing life expectancy trends in different parts of the world. RIP, anyway!

eatandoph (Neue Jesse Schule), Sunday, 2 April 2023 18:20 (two years ago)

Rip to a good one

nxd, Sunday, 2 April 2023 18:20 (two years ago)

RIP, spinning BGM right now

obsidian crocogolem (sleeve), Sunday, 2 April 2023 18:26 (two years ago)

Often find BTTB a little sentimental, but it's hitting the spot right now. Farewell, Ryuichi.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=btyhpyJTyXg

Portsmouth Bubblejet, Sunday, 2 April 2023 19:53 (two years ago)

there are like 3 or 5 sakamoto docs out there, anyone here seen multiple who recommend the best one?

flopson, Sunday, 2 April 2023 19:56 (two years ago)

My favorite is Tokyo Melody followed closely by CODA

SQUIRREL MEAT!! (Capitaine Jay Vee), Sunday, 2 April 2023 20:48 (two years ago)

RIP. I'd be remiss not to mentioning that his parody of "Bolero" in Femme Fatale is one of the most thrilling musical jokes in any American(ish) film.

fair but so uncool beliefs here (Eric H.), Sunday, 2 April 2023 20:55 (two years ago)

Reading the story in the Guardian, I had no idea that Eric Clapton(!) had covered Behind the Mask.

ionjusit (P. Flick), Sunday, 2 April 2023 21:22 (two years ago)

hell yeah

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5MXUJoHyiuw

(⊙_⊙?) (original bgm), Sunday, 2 April 2023 21:57 (two years ago)

Biggest RIP. Only 1996 is making sense today.

J. Sam, Sunday, 2 April 2023 22:10 (two years ago)

Reading the story in the Guardian, I had no idea that Eric Clapton(!) had covered Behind the Mask.

― ionjusit (P. Flick),

His greatest recording

the very juice and sperm of kindness. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 2 April 2023 22:22 (two years ago)

most of his recent stuff is depressing the hell outta me right now so instead I'll link this 2019 track that's an interpretation of "Energy Flow" with tabla and two rappers...I'm guessing fans may recognize who these guys are. I think I actually voted this #1 on the ILM 2019 poll...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MUaNz9M8fs8

frogbs, Sunday, 2 April 2023 23:06 (two years ago)

I tried listening to /05 today but 'Shining Boy...' is just too much to take, probably his most perfect melody, and oh so very sad. I switched to a B-2 Unit live bootleg instead.

MaresNest, Monday, 3 April 2023 00:07 (two years ago)

For some non-depressing RS, this is just a long string of concise bangers

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z9intgzzLfk

official representative of Roku's Basketshit in at least one alternate u (lukas), Monday, 3 April 2023 00:39 (two years ago)

ahh yeah, his commercial jingles were so good - as an album this would be like, top 5 for me

https://www.discogs.com/release/2283320-Ryuichi-Sakamoto-Works-I-CM

frogbs, Monday, 3 April 2023 00:57 (two years ago)

man this sucks. as fate would have it my copy of B-2 Unit arrived a couple days ago, listening now and "Thatness and Thereness" is suddenly heartwrenching

most of the rest, I've suddenly realized, sounds like proto-Autechre, particularly "E3-A" which fooled me into thinking I was listening to Chiastic Slide briefly

frogbs, Monday, 3 April 2023 02:21 (two years ago)

its one of those like E2-E4 where every time I see the release year I do a double take

frogbs, Monday, 3 April 2023 02:28 (two years ago)

Saw some weird TV mini-series called Wild Palms which he did the score. That stood out to me. I've been meaning to listen to Yellow Magic Orchestra too. RIP.

lilsoulbrother, Monday, 3 April 2023 03:40 (two years ago)

thanks for the tokyo melody rec upthread

the “tong poo” scene was so cute

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DHhksjfg8Ik

(⊙_⊙?) (original bgm), Monday, 3 April 2023 03:55 (two years ago)

i like all the headlines calling him a 'pop star' because that's a sort of odd idea of what ymo were although i guess not completely incorrect

ufo, Monday, 3 April 2023 05:04 (two years ago)

They were definitely pop stars in Japan.

SQUIRREL MEAT!! (Capitaine Jay Vee), Monday, 3 April 2023 05:43 (two years ago)

You’re welcome, original bgm!

SQUIRREL MEAT!! (Capitaine Jay Vee), Monday, 3 April 2023 05:43 (two years ago)

My first encounter with Sakamoto was on Japan's "Taking Islands in Africa", a lot warmer emotionally than is usual for Sylvian; and after seeing references to David "Sylvain" in two major Sakamoto obituaries, it's no wonder that he's given up trying to impress himself on modern-day music culture.

Halfway there but for you, Monday, 3 April 2023 11:40 (two years ago)

Sylvain David Sylvain

"Bamboo Houses" was probably the first time I heard Sakamoto, hated it at the time but then again I was about 14 and I came round to him in time.

So glad I got to see the aforementioned ramshackle YMO 'reformation' at the Barbican Hosono gig a few years back!

inky pinky voulez-vous (Matt #2), Monday, 3 April 2023 11:44 (two years ago)

he's been doing albums with alvo noto for raster noton since 2002. i've not heard a single one. samples suggest they are very minimal (as per the sleeves)

koogs, Monday, 3 April 2023 11:49 (two years ago)

I saw them play together at the Sydney Opera House - I actually found it a bit uninvolving, but I listened to the live album from the show this morning (‘Two’) and felt it worked much better as a recording. Odd. But I suppose there is a delicacy and intimacy to all the scrapes and rustles that works much better in nearfield listening than it does in a cavernous concert hall.

meat and two vdgg (emsworth), Monday, 3 April 2023 12:25 (two years ago)

^This is congruent with my experience of the HAS/YMO gig at the Meltdown Festival in London.

I was kinda perplexed by the setlist and arrangements, and wtf was Fennez doing on stage? But listening/watching back, and after hearing more Sketch Show records, it sounds great to me now.

MaresNest, Monday, 3 April 2023 13:18 (two years ago)

I really liked the London 2008 live record. Though it's kind of amusing that it only has 3 actual YMO songs on it (4 if you count the new "Rydeen"). Was nice to hear the Sketch Show material live, though "Flakes" and "Mars" are both weird choices in a live context. They have a lot of tracks I think may have worked better. Oh well. The new version of "Ongaku" in particular was really pretty.

frogbs, Monday, 3 April 2023 13:30 (two years ago)

Yeah, I stupidly went probably expecting modular synths, Akiko Yano bouncing around, and a 12 min version of Tong Poo, but instead it was this very hushed and measured glitchy electronica.

I'm so glad it was filmed to give the older me a chance to revisit.

MaresNest, Monday, 3 April 2023 13:36 (two years ago)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oEs3R3UJr74

MaresNest, Monday, 3 April 2023 13:37 (two years ago)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KY_N6zz60lI

MaresNest, Monday, 3 April 2023 13:40 (two years ago)

actually I didn't know the London show was professionally shot. funny I assumed all the percussion was electronic but at one point you can see Hosono tapping on a glass bottle with a pencil. I agree it's not what you'd expect from a YMO show but I can really respect that they kept evolving and made no effort to try to recapture the past. I mean the '79 YMO shows supporting Solid State Survivor were absolutely nothing like the '84 ones for Service, in fact every single album they did was way different, so I guess it's YMO after all.

that clip of Sakamoto appearing for the encore is super cute. I can't imagine how geeked out I would've been if I saw that. Reminds me of one of the cutest YMO clips - the part in the Tokyo Dome show where Sakamoto slips in the Cosmic Surfin riff, clearly surprising the other two:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cfY9AKKK28M

frogbs, Monday, 3 April 2023 14:16 (two years ago)

Looking at his work in terms of an album discography is pretty intimidating to someone who mostly focused on his film music. What are the absolute must listens?

fair but so uncool beliefs here (Eric H.), Monday, 3 April 2023 14:28 (two years ago)

that clip of Sakamoto appearing for the encore is super cute. I can't imagine how geeked out I would've been if I saw that.

It was a magical moment for sure. Enhanced considerably by the fact that, as it usually goes when seeing an artist from anywhere in London, a huge slice of the audience was Japanese.

Daniel_Rf, Monday, 3 April 2023 14:29 (two years ago)

I was in the last row of the very front stalls at the Barbican gig with an aisle right behind me and I turned around just in time to see YT walking down the aisle to the stage, I was giddy, I could have fist-bumped him on the way past.

MaresNest, Monday, 3 April 2023 15:00 (two years ago)

he's been doing albums with alvo noto for raster noton since 2002. i've not heard a single one. samples suggest they are very minimal (as per the sleeves)

― koogs

these are all great imho

obsidian crocogolem (sleeve), Monday, 3 April 2023 15:02 (two years ago)

Eric H I’m very partial to - in no particular order -

B-2 Unit
1000 Knives
Esperanto
Neo Geo
async
Left Handed Dream
GEM Collection

missing one or two ottomh but I think these are pretty wonderful non-sndtrk albums.

SQUIRREL MEAT!! (Capitaine Jay Vee), Monday, 3 April 2023 15:29 (two years ago)

Thanks! Realizing now I have listened to (and love) Thousand Knives, but looking forward to sampling the rest!

fair but so uncool beliefs here (Eric H.), Monday, 3 April 2023 15:34 (two years ago)

that list is more or less my sweet spot too but i’d probably add works/CM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R731jAs0_NU

i’d be lying if i said i like the 2000s glitchy electronic RS or YMO stuff even 1/4 as much as my faves from either discographies but i also respect them following their interests and it can be pretty. disappearance with taylor deupree is prob the one i’ve played the most, though it’s been a few years.

also features a relatively early appearance from ichiko aoba:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YIRO5k6bmKY

def also respect how he stayed plugged in and worked with lots of younger musicians basically his whole life

(⊙_⊙?) (original bgm), Monday, 3 April 2023 15:48 (two years ago)

Also not to discount his playing and production for others especially with ex Akiko Yano. Gohan Ga Dekitayo (sp?), Ai Ga Nakucha Ne and Tadaima are all strange, exciting albums.
I also live for YMO up until Naughty Boys when it got too slick for a while ( for me ).

SQUIRREL MEAT!! (Capitaine Jay Vee), Monday, 3 April 2023 16:19 (two years ago)

yeah I love the CM stuff! illustrated musical encyclopdia is so fng good too

brimstead, Monday, 3 April 2023 16:43 (two years ago)

the slickness is the point I think, the whole album sounds like 40 minutes of commercial jingles, but you can actually enjoy them because they're not trying to sell you anything (besides more YMO albums I guess)

tbh I'm not too sold on glitchy Sakamoto either but that stuff seems to have cultivated an entirely different audience so I assume it's very good for what it is. I would say the same about a lot of Brian Eno albums. async, his latest "proper" record, is very nice. I also really dig Chasm, which strikes me as one his few true "solo" records, in that it brings in a lot of guests and doesn't really have a concept behind it. the hip-hop track on it is fascinating:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v1lqJPNKTTw

frogbs, Monday, 3 April 2023 16:47 (two years ago)

Oh yeah how could I have left IME out of that list? For shame.

SQUIRREL MEAT!! (Capitaine Jay Vee), Monday, 3 April 2023 16:52 (two years ago)

Just leaving this slice of madness here -

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8HIbDVNG7E8

MaresNest, Monday, 3 April 2023 16:57 (two years ago)

aha yes. The bside of that single is really cool, iirc, not rock, more of a YMO sound

brimstead, Monday, 3 April 2023 17:05 (two years ago)

Did we post these?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z9intgzzLfk

Naive Teen Idol, Monday, 3 April 2023 17:07 (two years ago)

Eric H I’m very partial to - in no particular order -

B-2 Unit
1000 Knives
Esperanto
Neo Geo
async
Left Handed Dream
GEM Collection

missing one or two ottomh but I think these are pretty wonderful non-sndtrk albums.

<3

willem, Monday, 3 April 2023 19:10 (two years ago)

Often think about Ryuichi Sakamoto hating the music in his favorite restaurant so much he pro bono made them a replacement playlist — inspirational. https://t.co/y3aN62y692 pic.twitter.com/xCRsCb1Z8y

— Nick Newman (@Nick_Newman) April 2, 2023

xyzzzz__, Monday, 3 April 2023 21:34 (two years ago)

ha I love that story too

obsidian crocogolem (sleeve), Monday, 3 April 2023 21:34 (two years ago)

apparently this is the playlist https://open.spotify.com/playlist/2YY3rAwm9tldNhlBmuMqgY?si=tBcsQ5q_SsWhBPp_cHIu2w&dd=1&nd=1

official representative of Roku's Basketshit in at least one alternate u (lukas), Monday, 3 April 2023 21:36 (two years ago)

Had a rabbit hole moment last night and made a mix of some of RS' production work from the late 70s to the early 90s.

https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fo/3cgychgpp8o9eaei95w80/h?dl=0&rlkey=4swircqlijwji9limzl1zgdkf

Miki Imai - Watermark
Akiko Yano - Canton Boy
Kanako Wada - Creation My Heart
Tokiko Kato - Alabama Song
Robin Scott - Once In A Lifetime
(Phew) - 終曲(フィナーレ)
Akina Nakamori - Everlasting Love
Mari Iijima - My Best Friend
Friction - I Can Tell
Raijie - Tabidachi
Hayaku Aitsuni - South Of The Border
Seri Ishikawa - いろ、なつ、ゆめ~彩・夏・夢
Virginia Astley - Tree-Top Club
Hiromi Go - Your Name Is Psycho
Jill Jones - You Do Me (7'' Mix)
Thomas Dolby - Field Work
Koharu Kisaragi - Neo-Plant

MaresNest, Monday, 3 April 2023 21:56 (two years ago)

Virginia Astley’s Hope in a Darkened Heart is an incredible record

I love his score for the 1993 limited series WILD PALMS. Such a sinister, claustrophobic work

beamish13, Monday, 3 April 2023 21:58 (two years ago)

xp seems to just be a .rtf file?

obsidian crocogolem (sleeve), Monday, 3 April 2023 21:59 (two years ago)

Sry Sleeve, files are still uploading, check back in 2 mins.

MaresNest, Monday, 3 April 2023 22:05 (two years ago)

lol np, thanks

obsidian crocogolem (sleeve), Monday, 3 April 2023 22:07 (two years ago)

Errata already, the (fantastic) Koharu Kisaragi track is Träumerei, not Neo-Plant

MaresNest, Monday, 3 April 2023 22:07 (two years ago)

Thanks for the download!

SQUIRREL MEAT!! (Capitaine Jay Vee), Monday, 3 April 2023 22:34 (two years ago)

aww at that restaurant playlist, I would have loved to make him a semi-ambient/ambient mix cd

brimstead, Monday, 3 April 2023 22:38 (two years ago)

_BIG_ fan of this particular miki nakatani album

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=45ahRf9NggM

RS appears to have done a lot of stuff for it

Producer, Composed By, Arranged By, Performer [Performed By], Mixed By – Ryuichi Sakamoto

https://www.discogs.com/release/2456654-%E4%B8%AD%E8%B0%B7%E7%BE%8E%E7%B4%80-%E7%A7%81%E7%94%9F%E6%B4%BB

his daughter also covered the opener, tho I prefer the other ver

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OUrxDFXWWJc

(⊙_⊙?) (original bgm), Monday, 3 April 2023 23:06 (two years ago)

I did my best to recreate the Kajitsu Playlist for Tidal, missing two tracks that Spotify had.
https://tidal.com/browse/playlist/02b62cb5-3c23-4320-9791-a15c726a1216

The Terroir of Tiny Town (WmC), Tuesday, 4 April 2023 01:24 (two years ago)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QUw6nUkjFcM

MaresNest, Tuesday, 4 April 2023 13:14 (two years ago)

RIP Luigi :(

frogbs, Tuesday, 4 April 2023 13:36 (two years ago)

Fucking Jacobin... this is a tweet leading to an article I will not be reading:

The brilliant cornucopia of Japanese composer Ryuichi Sakamoto’s work crystallizes the freedoms and desires that neoliberalism has betrayed.

but also fuck you (unperson), Tuesday, 4 April 2023 23:15 (two years ago)

to be fair, Sakamoto was a Marxist when he was in uni!

surprised I haven't seen too much discussion of his collaborations with Fennesz - Cendre gets a lot of love but I also adore Flumina from 2011. very conceptually rigid but always strange and beautiful.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UwELGACE-GY

slumpy, Tuesday, 4 April 2023 23:18 (two years ago)

That Fennesz + Sakamoto set (2 CDs) is the only thing of his I own in physical form.

but also fuck you (unperson), Tuesday, 4 April 2023 23:43 (two years ago)

wow wonder how his score for Snake Eyes sounds

https://www.discogs.com/master/288313-Ryuichi-Sakamoto-Snake-Eyes-Music-From-The-Motion-Picture

brimstead, Tuesday, 4 April 2023 23:57 (two years ago)

Oh damn, would listen
This is not the g I joe thing is it?

calstars, Wednesday, 5 April 2023 00:22 (two years ago)

revisiting async now, didn't know at the time that he approached it thinking it would be his last album

it is a lot heavier and ominous than I remembered. I guess the weight of his death is all over this thing. it's the soundtrack to a world falling apart, much as his own body was. also I think it might be one of his very best solo albums, as difficult a listen as it may be.

frogbs, Wednesday, 5 April 2023 15:57 (two years ago)

it really is

been filling in the gaps of my knowledge of sakamoto's discog over the past two days and it's been an incredibly rich musical experience. guy was always making at least fifteen different kinds of music and he rocked at all of them. i was unaware of and am now totally in love with his ambient pop house album from 1992, heartbeat

flamenco drop (BradNelson), Wednesday, 5 April 2023 16:02 (two years ago)

highly recommend his bonkers 1985 film adelic penguins, which uses music from esperanto
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A-nJPWJE0cs

ludicrously capacious bag (voodoo chili), Wednesday, 5 April 2023 16:56 (two years ago)

BTTB for me today, which I had never heard before, and Hidariude No Yume, which I had bleeped over in the past and is also excellent.

MaresNest, Wednesday, 5 April 2023 17:01 (two years ago)

feels corny to say it but I think both Ongaku Zukan & Esperanto are precursors to vaporwave. the former is the kind of stuff they love to sample and the latter sounds to be like what OPN does at his more interesting and creative. but they're both so very different to each other, listening side by side you'd never know they were by the same artist, much less released in consecutive years. that's what makes his career so fascinating to me - Hosono has a very diverse career as well but everything he does has sort of an aural watermark, even with his productions you can tell it's him. Sakamoto was, as Brad mentions, just pretty good at everything

frogbs, Wednesday, 5 April 2023 17:14 (two years ago)

Ongaku Zukan & Esperanto are precursors to vaporwave

i'm listening to futurista rn and i think it should be included in this list

flamenco drop (BradNelson), Wednesday, 5 April 2023 17:25 (two years ago)

god this record is absolutely incredible wtf

flamenco drop (BradNelson), Wednesday, 5 April 2023 17:30 (two years ago)

haven't heard that one in a while but you're probably right

frogbs, Wednesday, 5 April 2023 17:30 (two years ago)

Because of recent searches, YT is throwing RS suggestions at me and I came across this installation piece called 'Plankton', a lovely close-up, detailed sound design/ambient thing.

MaresNest, Wednesday, 5 April 2023 17:51 (two years ago)

Futurista is great and a track from it was featured in the fabulous Optimo mixtape "Polyphonic Cosmos"

Perverted By Linguiça (sleeve), Wednesday, 5 April 2023 17:53 (two years ago)

I admit that I've never been a deep head when it comes to Sakamoto/YMO, prior to async I had only heard random tracks here and there, but I've been listening to 'Playing the Piano' a ton.

change display name (Jordan), Wednesday, 5 April 2023 18:02 (two years ago)

heartbeat is so good!

ludicrously capacious bag (voodoo chili), Wednesday, 5 April 2023 18:22 (two years ago)

i knew sakamoto primarily as a pianist and composer for a long time before diving into his y.m.o. and early solo work. have never heard anything of his from the 90s tho, enjoying the dive.

ludicrously capacious bag (voodoo chili), Wednesday, 5 April 2023 18:23 (two years ago)

he really was a special piano player, incredibly dynamic with unique voicings that find a midpoint between evans and cage

ludicrously capacious bag (voodoo chili), Wednesday, 5 April 2023 18:24 (two years ago)

What a talent, to be able to play like that and not have to do it, the experimentation and the pop stuff from so early on, jeez.

change display name (Jordan), Wednesday, 5 April 2023 18:34 (two years ago)

Extract from a 'Sound on Sound' interview from 1998, I'd love to know where this place was/is.

"This time I'm interviewing Sakamoto in one of the most unusual hotels I've ever set foot in. He seems to have a taste for the out-of-the-ordinary, whether in music or in hotels, but this takes some beating. It's located in West London, and is so private that there's no signposting outside it. Inside, it's composed of rectangular shapes painted white, with interior design in an ultra-sparse, minimalistic style somewhere between Zen and '60s chic. The corridors are laced with identical white panels as far as the eye can see, the only thing indicating that these panels are actually doors being a small button on each, with a tiny red light and a keyhole."

MaresNest, Wednesday, 5 April 2023 18:45 (two years ago)

This is a p arresting version of one of his best known singles: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=efpU91sflaI

Naive Teen Idol, Wednesday, 5 April 2023 18:48 (two years ago)

yes, that one is incredible. sounds like a video game soundtrack version of ligeti's music ricercata, or something

ludicrously capacious bag (voodoo chili), Wednesday, 5 April 2023 18:57 (two years ago)

lovely video by Dolby upthread.
had never heard of RS until Dolby worked with him, so was really nice to find out the backstory to 'fieldwork' which is still one of my fave dolby singles.

mark e, Wednesday, 5 April 2023 19:16 (two years ago)

the bit in that video that I liked was him saying you could play something for him and he could play it back perfectly by ear. I've actually heard that a few times about him, which I think is a skill very few musicians possess.

frogbs, Wednesday, 5 April 2023 19:44 (two years ago)

Because of recent searches, YT is throwing RS suggestions at me and I came across this installation piece called 'Plankton', a lovely close-up, detailed sound design/ambient thing.

― MaresNest, Wednesday, April 5, 2023 12:51 PM (one hour ago) bookmarkflaglink

I thought you may have been referring to the Sketch Show tune called "Plankton", which RS actually isn't on...before finding out he actually did do an hourlong piece for an installation. this guy just has so much out there. his Discogs page has nearly 300 entries on it. I like that quote from The Sheltering Sky that's on async, about how life seems limitless because we don't know when we will die...indeed, Sakamoto's catalogue seems limitless, there's always so much more to hear. How many people out there actually know every single one of his solo albums and soundtracks?

frogbs, Wednesday, 5 April 2023 19:52 (two years ago)

budman!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pl5fBJ2j3x0

(⊙_⊙?) (original bgm), Wednesday, 5 April 2023 20:15 (two years ago)

I kinda love how the concept of 'selling out' just doesn't seem to exist in the music community in Japan.

There are acres and acres of commercials with YMO together and separately, selling all sorts of things, I wonder if it started in the bubble or if it's always been so.

MaresNest, Wednesday, 5 April 2023 20:20 (two years ago)

XXP - it is rather lovely too

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YEt2YzR0zEk

MaresNest, Wednesday, 5 April 2023 20:21 (two years ago)

bizarre to see him actually drinking beer in the commercial. in America you can't do that...you can open the bottles and clink the glasses but you can't actually drink out of them

frogbs, Wednesday, 5 April 2023 20:25 (two years ago)

I realise I'm doing the exact same thing as when Yukihiro passed, diving into the back catalogue, watching documentaries and YT clips, I'm feeling sad as hell, but (as frogbs points out) how fucking glorious is it to have this seemingly endless ocean of music to dive into?

MaresNest, Wednesday, 5 April 2023 20:26 (two years ago)

speaking of YMO commercials I came across this recently, not sure what the point of this commercial was except to make people question their sexuality

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3m4ZCWqn13o

frogbs, Wednesday, 5 April 2023 20:30 (two years ago)

hot

change display name (Jordan), Wednesday, 5 April 2023 20:51 (two years ago)

going down the rabbit hole of wacky 80s/90s peak economic bubble ads that sakamoto seemingly did a thousand of. it's such a joy to watch the man, he has such a natural charisma and warmth!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3IRt3Kpinb0

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fEnMp8Y8_FY

(tried listening to async, my favourite album ever, today - I can't. there's dark and strange magic coursing through those songs and it's going to take a while to be able to approach them after his passing.)

slumpy, Thursday, 6 April 2023 10:52 (two years ago)

wow adelic penguins is so good

ufo, Thursday, 6 April 2023 11:07 (two years ago)

Every time I see this thread bumped I fear I'm going to read that he's died.

― Naive Teen Idol, Friday, April 3, 2015 12:32 AM (eight years ago) bookmarkflaglink

say it ain't so Sakamoto

全くありません。人生でプログレが好きになったことも影響を受けたこともありません。

Not at all. I’ve never in my life liked prog rock and I’ve never been influenced by it either.#skmtnews #ryuichisakamoto #坂本龍一 #twelve

— ryuichi sakamoto (@ryuichisakamoto) March 22, 2023

― frogbs, Wednesday, March 22, 2023 1:57 PM (two weeks ago) bookmarkflaglink

Not entirely Ryuichi-related, but in addition to having that fear yet again this week, one of the odder things about the world we live in is that celebrities are tweeting literally up to the day before they die and then, boom, they're gone. Roger Ebert was reviewing movies before he announced he was in the final stages (10 years ago this week, actually), David Crosby was grading the joints his Twitter followers rolled literally the day before he died -- and here you have Sakamoto, presumably on his death bed, telling some schmo that, no, he's never been into prog at all and WTF is that question, dude.

It's a strange sensation as a fan.

Naive Teen Idol, Thursday, 6 April 2023 13:42 (two years ago)

I think it's nice? May we all squeeze every last drop out of life.

Daniel_Rf, Thursday, 6 April 2023 15:25 (two years ago)

agree with this

SQUIRREL MEAT!! (Capitaine Jay Vee), Thursday, 6 April 2023 15:50 (two years ago)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qsH_UBptm-U

timeless

flamenco drop (BradNelson), Thursday, 6 April 2023 16:20 (two years ago)

The amazing thing about that piano version of Riot in Lagos is that it makes the groove more prominent, and in turn, the overall Afrobeat/Fela feel of the piece. I love it – it was the only version available in Spotify for a long time, and got so used to it.

fpsa, Thursday, 6 April 2023 17:00 (two years ago)

I think it's nice? May we all squeeze every last drop out of life.

― Daniel_Rf, Thursday, April 6, 2023 11:25 AM (two hours ago) bookmarkflaglink

Oh I agree -- I mean, that's exactly what the folks I cited did. It's just sudden is all. I mean, as I posted, I was dreading Sakamoto's passing for 8 years. But I think when you see people doing interviews and shooting the bull with fans it can be surprising to then learn they've passed.

The amazing thing about that piano version of Riot in Lagos is that it makes the groove more prominent, and in turn, the overall Afrobeat/Fela feel of the piece.

Yes! BTW, I'm assuming on at least this cut there are multiple Sakamotos "playing the piano" (ie, overdubs) as there are things happening that require four hands.

Naive Teen Idol, Thursday, 6 April 2023 18:04 (two years ago)

well my Youtube recs are like 50% Sakamoto now, which rules. check this shit out, how awesome is this

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5a8xV9xOHqA

frogbs, Thursday, 6 April 2023 20:51 (two years ago)

after listening to all of his '80s and '90s "pop" albums in a row i came out with smoochy as my favorite. it reminds me of the chill-out-ier corners of something like beaucoup fish

flamenco drop (BradNelson), Saturday, 8 April 2023 15:48 (two years ago)

Since people are rediscovering his early 90s stuff I'm gonna say don't sleep on Technodon. I think its an album that works much better in the context of their other 90s releases instead of what YMO had done a decade ago. It's actually really good. In retrospect its super cool that such a high profile reunion happened and they decided to take it in a direction that conceptually was unlike anything they did in their original incarnation. Feel like it would be regarded a lot differently if it didn't have the YMO name (which technically, it didn't!)

If nothing else the track "Nostalgia" is a excellent, haunting Sakamoto piece - if you took it out of context and put it on a RS mixtape I don't think anyone would guess what it was actually from. Initially I thought it was funny that a YMO reunion would have a track called "Nostalgia" that sounded nothing at all like YMO, but I guess it is kinda similar to those Prologue/Epilogue pieces on Technodelic. Actually I think most tracks here would be neat highlights on mixtapes. But people don't like the album.

frogbs, Wednesday, 12 April 2023 03:56 (two years ago)

The latest ep of Gilles Peterson's radio show predictably has a Sakamoto tribute and the first two tracks they play are an orchestral "Merry Christmas Mr Lawrence" followed by "You're Friend To Me" and that's a great illustration of the "wait, this is the SAME GUY?" aspect discussed itt.

Daniel_Rf, Wednesday, 12 April 2023 09:27 (two years ago)

oh wow turns out i love technodon, thank you frogbs, nobody ever has anything good to say about this record yet it rules

flamenco drop (BradNelson), Thursday, 13 April 2023 13:08 (two years ago)

I never knew there was a third version of "Forbidden Colours" - a live recording by RS that Sylvian re-recorded his vocals for:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rMjtAP2_j9E

Gerald McBoing-Boing, Thursday, 13 April 2023 15:13 (two years ago)

xpost

count me in as another Technodon lover (my fav YMO album in fact)!

Max Florian, Friday, 14 April 2023 18:13 (two years ago)

Technodon is great. I encountered the YMO albums in a fairly random order, so it never felt like an outlier (especially given the wild swings across their original run). It's probably got the strongest Kraftwerk influence of any of their LPs? with shades of LFO's Frequencies in places too.

I think there's always been a continuity between what they're doing in and out of the band at any one time. I wish they'd done a final LP in the 00s drawing on all the glitch/IDM stuff they were doing separately, but I guess we have the Londonymo / Gijonymo live albums for that (which "claim" a lot of Sketch Show / Sakamoto solo stuff under the YMO banner).

bamboohouses, Friday, 14 April 2023 18:33 (two years ago)

I think maybe it's an outlier in terms of melody, it has none of the bright, sunny stuff they're known for. If you dig it I highly recommend Hosono's Medicine Compilation (which is not actually a compilation).

I too wish they'd done one more album, in fact in 2007-2008 it really looked like something was in the works, as they had released a few singles under the HASYMO name. Maybe the whole idea of getting back together, reopening the YMO name, and possibly touring again was a bit overwhelming. I'm kinda bummed we only got the 2 1/2 Sketch Show albums - I've really grown to appreciate those a lot

frogbs, Friday, 14 April 2023 19:28 (two years ago)

A brilliant piece of writing and remembering here https://t.co/hheEJRAovD

— Fielding Hope (@fieldinghope) April 14, 2023

xyzzzz__, Saturday, 15 April 2023 12:13 (two years ago)

“Sakamoto passed away after several years of preparation.
I heard that he passed away quietly, with no regrets for himself or his family.
After knowing that, I feel at ease.”
Haruomi Hosono

frogbs, Monday, 17 April 2023 02:12 (two years ago)

;_;

slai gorgeous-alexander (m bison), Monday, 17 April 2023 02:43 (two years ago)

slightly off topic but does anyone else get a slight ick from Toop and his writing? parlayed a leechy career in journalism (is there any other kind?) into very dull experimental music. the opening line of his piece on Ryuichi:
'That left unsaid and at the centre of us, unspeakable silence. Turbulent thoughts but faltering words, a very specific form of silence' - not even grad school shit. leave us to grieve Ryuichi without this bullshit poetry!

slumpy, Wednesday, 26 April 2023 12:56 (two years ago)

Ha ha -- I get what you're saying but I like Toop and think he generally includes enough specifics and substance to warrant (or at least mitigate) the florid poesy. I have also found that Sakamoto's passing seemed to hit a lot of people surprisingly hard -- and not just the friend of mine who literally called me in tears when he found out!

Naive Teen Idol, Wednesday, 26 April 2023 15:10 (two years ago)

this track here always makes me really emotional. it's not even on the Ongaku Zukan LP proper, you have to get the original with the bonus 12" to get it (or just get the CD). the way the icy synths come in 2/3rds of the way and just completely change the tune always makes me get chills. that's the kind of trick groups like Underworld and Orbital used to pull off in the 90's. wouldn't be surprised to find out it's just a chill version of one of his advertising jingles

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0I59rqjeSUo

frogbs, Friday, 28 April 2023 04:19 (two years ago)

I went to see Suga last night with my partner, and I was surprised by a nice tribute to Sakamoto when they played a personal recording of Suga with Sakamoto at what appeared to be his home. Sakamoto plays something on the piano while Suga looks on - he then smiles at the camera, gets up and the two share a warm embrace.

It was a very young crowd that seemed concentrated around the teens and early 20's, and several fans behind us didn't even know Sakamoto had died. I forgot the two collaborated, and it seemed to emphasize the impact these cross-generational collaborations can have on both sides of the equation - I got the impression most of the fans probably knew Sakamoto only through Suga, i.e. at minimum their collaboration has become their gateway to him, and it was clear Suga had a tremendous amount of respect for Sakamoto's work.

birdistheword, Friday, 28 April 2023 16:16 (two years ago)

what a wonderful song, frogbs -- i had no idea Replica and マ・メール・ロワ after it were bonus tracks on Ongaku Zukan! i've listened to that record 10000 times and always thought it closed so strongly and poignantly with the children's choir and koto of マ・メール・ロワ.

slumpy, Monday, 1 May 2023 06:43 (two years ago)

I've been listening to Esperanto this morning. How on earth was this made in 1985? I can't think of many albums that sound as ahead of their time as this.

kitchen person, Monday, 1 May 2023 14:32 (two years ago)

YT is still bringing up Sakamoto (and Takahashi) things for me to check out, I keep happily clicking, this is lovely...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UxD4141Pyl0

MaresNest, Saturday, 6 May 2023 21:37 (two years ago)

What a fantastic arrangement! It nearly brought tears to my eyes. I wonder if a recording is available on CD.

Vast Halo, Saturday, 6 May 2023 22:14 (two years ago)

Ryuichi’s Last Playlist.

We would like to share the playlist that Ryuichi had been privately compiling to be played at his own funeral to accompany his passing. He truly was with music until the very end.

- skmt managementhttps://t.co/QPeSnthq9p pic.twitter.com/lK7B2ltUM9

— ryuichi sakamoto (@ryuichisakamoto) May 15, 2023

, Monday, 15 May 2023 13:57 (two years ago)

Spooky to look at the "date added" column. Seems he was putting it together right on Spotify (mostly last June) and they just now set it to public.

maf you one two (maffew12), Monday, 15 May 2023 14:12 (two years ago)

three weeks pass...

Here's a nice compilation of various piano cameos on his Sound Street show on NHK from 1982-85

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_4tS8KJv5Ss

MaresNest, Saturday, 10 June 2023 23:39 (two years ago)

He breaks into the sequencer riff of DAF's El Que for a sec at one point, which is mad.

MaresNest, Saturday, 10 June 2023 23:41 (two years ago)

two months pass...

A lengthy tribute collection came out recently:

https://microambientmusic.bandcamp.com/album/all-micro-ambient-music-5-disc-set

And there's a forthcoming live event that will be streamed as well:

https://microambientmusic.peatix.com/

Details:

AUG 24
In Memoriam Ryuichi Sakamoto Micro Ambient Music 'Improvisation for serenity'
(Thu) 18:00 (8 days) | online | By RITTOR BASE

Event details
In memory of Ryuichi Sakamoto, who passed away in March, a compilation album entitled "Micro Ambient Music" was released on 13 July on bandcamp. Although the reputation of Ryuichi tends to be biased towards his work with YMO and in the field of film music, it is also true that the true value of his ideas and music can be found in his works from the 21st century onwards. This compilation album is a total of 41 musicians from Japan and abroad who were closely associated with Ryuichi in his later years. The sound of the album is a total of 3 hours 56 minutes of music.

The bandcamp distribution is limited to 31 October, but in order to bring the sound to as many listeners as possible, it has been decided that live performances will be held by the Tokyo-based musicians who participated in this work over two days from 24-25 August. Three groups each day, six artists in total, will perform with a theme of 'Improvisation for serenity'. Duos performing in unusual combinations. After the performance, there will be an after-talk by the participating musicians, so don't miss it.

The part of the proceeds will be donated to Trees for Sakamoto.

Participating artists
24 Aug (Thu)
Tetuzi Akiyama Tomoyoshi Date
Ko Ishikawa Chihei Hatakeyama
Sachiko M Kazuya Matsumoto
Otomo Yoshihide (after-talk only)

Friday 25 August
Tomotsugu Nakamura Sawako
Yui Onodera Ken Ikeda
Toshimaru Nakamura Yumiko Tanaka (photo: asanao Matsumoto) 

Takashi Kokubo (ambient sound provided during live transitions on both days)

<Ryuichi Sakamoto Micro Ambient Music "Improvisation for serenity" in memory of Ryuichi Sakamoto.
Date: 24 (Thu) - 25 (Fri) August 2023, both days open 17:45 start 18:00
Venue: Ochanomizu RITTORE BASE
 Ochanomizu Christian Centre B1, 2-1 Kanda Surugadai, Chiyoda-ku, Tokyo 101-0062
 Venue map
 (2 min walk from Ochanomizu Station on JR Chuo/Sobu Line, 3 min walk from Ochanomizu Station on Tokyo Metro Marunouchi Line, 3 min walk from B1 exit of Shin-Ochanomizu Station on Chiyoda Line)
■Attendance ticket at the venue: General/4,400 yen, Students/3,300 yen (archived viewing of the two days is also available).
Capacity: 30 people on both days. Doors open 15 minutes before the start of the performance and people enter in order of ticket number.
Tickets to watch the archived broadcast: ¥3,300 for adults, ¥2,200 for students (archived viewing of the two days is available).
Archived viewing deadline: 31 August 2023, 23:00.

(Timetable)
Thursday, 24 August
18:00 - 18:35 Tetuzi Akiyama + Tomoyoshi Date
18:45 - 19:20 Ko Ishikawa + Chihei Hatakeyama
19:30 - 20:05 Sachiko M + Kazuya Matsumoto
20:05 - After Talk: Otomo Yoshihide + Date Hakkin "Ryuichi Sakamoto's Music after 2000".
Friday 25 August
18:00 - 18:35 Tomotsugu Nakamura + Sawako
18:45 - 19:20 Yui Onodera + Ken Ikeda
19:30 - 20:05 Yumiko Tanaka + Toshimaru Nakamura
20:05 - After Talk: Yumiko Tanaka + Hiji Hatakeyama + Hakkin Date "On Japanese and Western music, improvisation and notation".

Ned Raggett, Saturday, 12 August 2023 16:18 (two years ago)

(Quick check confirms the streaming price is about $23 so I'd say that was an excellent deal.)

Ned Raggett, Saturday, 12 August 2023 17:44 (two years ago)

two weeks pass...
three months pass...

Just saw the Sakamoto Coda doc. Some of it is a sad look at him struggling with throat cancer and just eating and drinking. Some fascinating sections showing him creating music. The doc only briefly nods back to the past so you don’t get to understand how this guy talking about Bach is also a guy who played on a cover of Archie Bell & the Drells and on YMO songs.

curmudgeon, Monday, 4 December 2023 20:14 (one year ago)

two months pass...

Left Handed Dream sort of fulfills my long-time wish for an album that would take the vibe of the more windswept and fabular John Wesley Harding tunes (As I Went Out One Morning, All Along the Watchtower, The Wicked Messenger, etc) and stretch them across a whole LP length.

One of the modi operandi for Left Handed Dream was to keep the lyrics extremely simple, at least as regards the language, if not the import/impact/meaning of the songs. Perhaps because Mr. "Music Plans" Sakamoto himself was not up to the task, he outsourced, and trusted the right people with the job. I love the lyrics to these songs. Here are English renditions of the five in Japanese.

...

Boku no Kakera (Fragments of Me) (words by Shigesato Itoi)

Let's lift them up:
these fragments of me.
Thank you for
these fragments of you.

...

Saru to Yuki to Gomi no Kodomo (Children of the Monkey, Snow, and Trash) (words by Shigesato Itoi)

The monkey's house is
where the monkey lives.
The monkey's father
and the monkey's mother,
the monkey's children.
"I love you."
The monkey's house is
encircled by the woods.

The snow's house
is where the snow falls.
The snow's father
and the snow's mother,
the snow's children.
"I love you."
The snow's house is
encircled by the sky.

The trash's house
is where the trash lives.
The trash's father
and the trash's mother,
the trash's children.
"I love you."
The trash's house is
encircled by the soil.

Float. Floating.
Tomorrow
floats too.
Tomorrow
is floating.

Green.
Blue.
Blue
is green.
The light is radiant, isn't it?

The flower's house is
where the flower lives.
The flower's father
and the flower's mother,
the flower's children.
"I love you."
The flower's house is
encircled by the sky.

Bloom.
Bloom.
Tomorrow
will bloom too.
Tomorrow
is blooming.

(Repeat first verse)

...

Kachakucha Nee (An Irritating Mess) (words by Akiko Yano, in the Tsugaru dialect spoken where she grew up)

What a mess we're in. What an irritating mess we're in.
Let's bear up under it already.

...

Living in the Dark (words by Tetsuro Kashibuchi, Moonriders' drummer)

(Verse 1)
A dreamstorm crumbling to dust
A sandstorm raging past
(x2)

(Verse 2)
The color of gold calling
Arriving in paradise at last
(x2)

(Chorus 1)
The birds are going too
Flocking together
Ringing
The song of the earth

(Verse 3)
Drawing a circle with the inner eye
Driving away illusions
(x2)

(Chorus 2)
Boundlessly
Far away
Alive for the sake of
Rapture

(Verse 4)
A dreamstorm crumbling to dust

(Chorus 3)
The birds are going too
Flocking together
Ringing
The song of the earth

(Verse 5)
A sandstorm raging past

(Chorus 4)
Boundlessly
Far away
Alive for the sake of
Rapture

(Verse 6)
The color of gold calling

(Chorus 5)
The birds are going too
Flocking together
Ringing
The song of the earth

(Verse 7)
Arriving in paradise at last

(Chorus 6)
Boundlessly
Far away
Alive for the sake of
Rapture

(Verse 8)
Drawing a circle with the inner eye

(Chorus 7)
The birds are going too

...

Venezia (words by Tetsuro Kashibuchi)

The beautiful boy
in a desolate castle,
wearing his armor,
basks in the sun.

Red rose, Venezia!
Country eternal, Venezia!
Castle of sand, Venezia!
Country eternal, Venezia!

In springtime they gambol,
the old noblemen,
out in the moorland parading their horses
and coughing up blood in the thickets of heath.

Red rose, Venezia!
Country eternal, Venezia!
Castle of sand, Venezia!
Country eternal, Venezia!

TheNuNuNu, Wednesday, 7 February 2024 18:22 (one year ago)

Akiko Yano otm on that one

frogbs, Wednesday, 7 February 2024 18:48 (one year ago)

Agreed. And she did the words for Tell It to Me too!

TheNuNuNu, Wednesday, 7 February 2024 19:05 (one year ago)

But the softly-spoken words to Boku no Kakera, set to that eerie music, hit pretty hard too.

TheNuNuNu, Wednesday, 7 February 2024 19:09 (one year ago)

Realized this am that the record he produced and arranged for Virginia Astley, Hope in a Darkened Heart, is really required listening for anyone interested in Ryuichi’s mid-80s classy orchestral Fairlight experimental pop phase, a la Ongaku Zukan and his contemporaneous work w David Sylvian.

It’s a legitimately weird record – with nursery rhyme-melodies sung in Astley’s little girl falsetto over Ryuichi’s booming gated drums, sequenced music boxes and gamelans. The duet with Sylvian himself that leads off the record is a pretty unique entry in his catalogue:

https://open.spotify.com/track/5nwDAFzUqt7hVVsKoWGcJN?si=xX7P9oCVScqGde8qpsO5eg

This was an amazing recommendation. I am not often blown away on first listen. Echoes of early Leonard Cohen (!) and Syd Barrett (!!!). As NTI says, this is absolutely the place to go for those who can't get enough of Forbidden Colours, Bamboo Houses, or Bamboo Music. (And where hence? Are there more Sakamoto-orbit albums/songs that explore these particular woods?)

TheNuNuNu, Friday, 9 February 2024 16:09 (one year ago)

interesting bit in the recent Mouse on Mars interview:

One of the many distinct ingredients within Idiology is the distortion that drives immediate standouts like the noise-punk single “Actionist Respoke.” Ryuichi Sakamoto’s reps actually reached out to the duo around this time to ask if they could produce a similar beat for the composer. Since it was more of a work-for-hire situation than a proper collaboration, they politely declined and were surprised to hear a similar technique surface on Sakamoto’s next pop record.

“They basically reconstructed the beat from ‘Actionist Respoke’,” explains St. Werner. “It made me laugh because it was so cleanly distorted. I thought, ‘Oh God, they put [the song] through some distortion device and obviously used pedals or plugins.’”

anyone know what track St. Werner is referring to here? the Actionist Respoke single came out in early 2001...Sakamoto was pretty much done making pop by that point, so I am guessing this is Chasm, which I suppose is as much as "pop record" as you'll get out of him in the 21st Century. so then the track must be "Coro"?

frogbs, Tuesday, 13 February 2024 23:30 (one year ago)

Nice to see an upgraded version of this, wonder if he was a fan of Cabaret Voltaire

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Quev-hsqR9w

Maresn3st, Sunday, 18 February 2024 13:47 (one year ago)

I know he was a fan of Throbbing Gristle.

The British Boy of Film Classification (Tom D.), Sunday, 18 February 2024 13:51 (one year ago)

This is quite quite lovely

https://x.com/istevejansen/status/1759165971690815719?s=46&t=byMYjCp2JCdH5mkSaZqRBQ

X-Prince Protégé (sonnyboy), Sunday, 18 February 2024 15:09 (one year ago)

three weeks pass...

The other day I decided to figure out where exactly Hosono's guest appearance on the Thousand Knives version of Thousand Knives happens -- he's credited with finger cymbals. Knowing Hosono's sense of humor I figured he'd show up for one clink and then back right out, but no, he's actually quite prominent from about 7:30 through the end!

TheNuNuNu, Saturday, 16 March 2024 13:09 (one year ago)

three weeks pass...

Seeing Opus tomorrow. Anyone see it yet? Good NY Times review:

The twin themes of “Ryuichi Sakamoto: Opus” are art and mortality, and they’re twisted so tightly together that they become inextricable. Shot in black and white to match the keys of the piano, the film entirely consists of the influential Japanese musician’s final concert. One might say it was a performance for nobody — Sakamoto filmed alone in a studio, with only the crew there as audience. But it’s more correct to say it’s for us, a gift from a master.

paisley got boring (Eazy), Saturday, 6 April 2024 20:29 (one year ago)

NHK have a documentary coming out next week called 'Last Days' that looks interesting.

https://www.barks.jp/news/?id=1000245935

Maresn3st, Saturday, 6 April 2024 20:55 (one year ago)

I did go to see Opus. I am putting my thoughts behind a spoiler.

I was enthusiastic, going in, hoping that the performance would reflect RS's more recent albums, prepared piano and/or collaboration. This was not to be the case. The first half of the concert film finds RS playing pieces of solo piano music that I didn't recognise, very slow, very banal. The pieces were not complex in any regard, and felt to me as if they could be improvised-- not just by RS, but really, by any pianist. Only the sheet music in front of him indicated that he was playing composed music. I found this part of the film frustrating. This frustration was compounded by a sense of guilt that I did not appreciate the epigrammatic quality of the performance. I sat and wished I hadn't come.

In the middle of the film, he plays a brutally slow chorale for prepared piano-- it is gorgeous. He followed it with some kind of extrapolation on themes from "Merry Christmas, Mr. Laurence", which was also transcendent. The pieces were getting more interesting. I noticed other people in the theatre were snoring, more than one, probably two or three. I started to feel, myself, very sleepy. I didn't want to fall asleep in the theatre, so I told the friend I was with that I would go to concessions, buy some popcorn, and listen to the music from the lobby. I did so, and listened to the last six-or-so pieces with popcorn. One of the last pieces was a very-beautiful rendition of "Forbidden Colours".

My friend and I agreed that the film felt like it would work better if presented as accompaniment to other activities. That we'd both enjoy having the film on at home as we cooked dinner or cleaned house or whatever. We were walking to the subway. I was talking about how much I admired RS as a film composer. A woman walking near us interrupted our conversation to jump in. She had attended the same screening, by herself. We chatted with her all the way to the subway and rode the subway with her, in conversation.

She was a Sakamoto superfan. She'd travelled from the West Coast to Toronto just to attend this screening. She referenced every song that RS had played, she clearly knew everything about it. She told me that Opus was the full version of a previous concert film, that a six-song cut of the film had made the rounds already. She seemed very enthusiastic about the film, and I didn't want to express my comparative lack-of-enthusiasm to her to colour her experience, so I kept my feelings to myself. I feel inclined to keep my feelings to myself, now, even, which is why I put the spoiler tag on these paragraphs.

I did tell her that I did want to see a Sakamoto documentary. One that covered YMO and so on. She recommended Coda, which I've added to my watch list.

tl;dr, I wouldn't recommend seeing this film in cinema to anybody who finds Sakamoto's music to, at times, be wallpaper-y. You may find yourself bored, as I was. I would recommend this film to anybody who desires to watch it at home, where it can serve as accompaniment.

Premises, Premises (flamboyant goon tie included), Saturday, 6 April 2024 21:14 (one year ago)

Seeing it on a second date, so if the theater isn't full, that could work out right. Thanks for all the info! And definitely curious about Coda as well.

And not to digress, but seeing a screening of The Raid later today, so this could be an all-time contrasting double feature.

paisley got boring (Eazy), Saturday, 6 April 2024 21:31 (one year ago)

Sorry my formatting was bogus, was hoping to hide all that info. I actually think it might make for an excellent make-out-in-the-theatre soundtrack, may things work out in your and your date's favour!

Premises, Premises (flamboyant goon tie included), Saturday, 6 April 2024 21:57 (one year ago)

It's showing at the film fest here, I didn't try to make my partner go for fear it would be boring, especially without any context.

Also missing the Ennio Morricone and Richard Davis docs. :(

Jordan s/t (Jordan), Sunday, 7 April 2024 00:21 (one year ago)

Funny this thread resurfaces alongside the PiL Album thread, I had no idea RS played on that

assert (matttkkkk), Sunday, 7 April 2024 00:24 (one year ago)

It worked just right having fgti's first paragraph osbscured by spoiler alert but reading the rest before going, and then going back to that first graf.

I was amazed by how it was shot, with no shot seemingly repeated twice. Totally get what fgti wrote about the music itself (great to hear it from your perspective). Would love to see this format with other solo pianists.

And it was a great date movie as far as being able to pay attention to it moment by moment without fully concentrating on it (as I would with any plot-driven movie).

paisley got boring (Eazy), Monday, 8 April 2024 00:38 (one year ago)

When I'm listening to Summer Nerves and think that Ryuichi Sakamoto studied composition at university... I realize that here is someone who truly used his powers for good.

TheNuNuNu, Monday, 15 April 2024 03:02 (one year ago)

two months pass...

_Opus_ premieres in the US on the Criterion Channel in an hour from now.

Ned Raggett, Sunday, 30 June 2024 23:03 (one year ago)

Really powerful experience seeing this on the big screen at the London Film Festival. My mate couldn't make it, so I gave a ticket back and it went to a middle aged Japanese lady - like to imagine she danced to YMO in her youth.

Daniel_Rf, Monday, 1 July 2024 09:28 (one year ago)

My thoughts on Opus

Ned Raggett, Friday, 5 July 2024 20:05 (one year ago)

two weeks pass...

This is awesome. I love when Ryuichi sings:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HEbSNjY8d-M

TheNuNuNu, Saturday, 20 July 2024 20:59 (one year ago)

two months pass...

Side B of Neo Geo is nigh-on perfect.

TheNuNuNu, Sunday, 29 September 2024 08:12 (eleven months ago)

three months pass...

Wait, ANDY PARTRIDGE is on B-2 Unit?!??

TheNuNuNu, Monday, 6 January 2025 09:38 (eight months ago)

two weeks pass...

Made it through a full listen of Sweet Revenge this morning. It has little of what I love about Sakamoto['s 1980s work, which is all I can speak to for now] and yet -- say what you will about the anodyne sophistipop, the man knows how to sustain a mood. And it's "wow, this is awful" moments are awful in a way I have no reference points for, so it's a WEIRD kind of awful, which isn't that awful... and then it ends with this beautiful thing, a Taeko Ohnuki/Sakamoto co-write:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1B1SHrZy9R8

I don't exactly want to put myself through the ordeal again soon, when I could be playing Summer Nerves or Ongaku Zukan instead. But I *respect* its bizarre artistic choices and may need to return to it down the line.

I like Smoochy but I'm hoping Discord makes an eternal break with the "international world music superstar" chapter of his career. Futurista is wonderful, and Neo Geo is great, and half of Beauty is great, and Heartbeat has its moments, and Sweet Revenge is uh ... so there's a depressing sense of diminishing returns, up until Smoochy which feels like a "here's what I've learned this decade" culmination, and doesn't suck at all.

TheNuNuNu, Sunday, 26 January 2025 06:24 (seven months ago)

I made myself an edit of the Handmaid's Tale soundtrack (1991) that excises the traditional hymns, and have played that several times over the last few days -- it's good! Dense and dark and heavy on the synth atmospherics.

Feels like, in the '90s, he stayed truer to himself (or to be fair... to the version of himself that I fell in love with) on the soundtracks than on the solo albums.

That said, I listened to the last four tracks on Heartbeat today and realized I really like all four. My Sakamoto dive is an exploration in progress, and it's encouraging that my thoughts change nonstop.

One thing that hasn't changed over the past half year: Wings of Honneamise is my favorite Sakamoto release of all.

TheNuNuNu, Thursday, 30 January 2025 12:34 (seven months ago)

two months pass...

How beautiful is Esperanto?!!!

TheNuNuNu, Tuesday, 1 April 2025 06:37 (five months ago)

four weeks pass...

Oh the joy of connections... Shigesato Itoi, who wrote most of the lyrics for Left Handed Dream and often wrote for / co-wrote with Akiko Yano too, went on to work with Miyazaki on the Japanese taglines of the Ghibli films, and even voiced the dad in Totoro.

TheNuNuNu, Wednesday, 30 April 2025 07:15 (four months ago)

That specific connection really blew my mind when working through the solo albums of each YMO member!

Shigesato Itoi also created the Mother/Earthbound series of video games, and that game's composer was in a band called The Beatniks with YMO drummer Yukihiro Takahashi. Lots of YMO-like music in those games.

Travisssss, Monday, 5 May 2025 14:54 (four months ago)

and that game's composer was in a band called The Beatniks with YMO drummer Yukihiro Takahashi. Lots of YMO-like music in those games.

Keiichi Suzuki, yes! -- who is all over Morio Agata's vast catalogue too, including some of its most beautiful corners. As it happens, I'm finishing up my nteenth replay of Seiken Densetsu 3 and was wondering what to play next. I never got around to Mother as a kid. I think it's time.

TheNuNuNu, Monday, 5 May 2025 15:04 (four months ago)

two weeks pass...

I recommend starting with Mother 2/Earthbound.

Took this as a sign to finally start a playthrough of Seiken Densetsu 3 (and check out some Morio Agatha records).

Travisssss, Monday, 19 May 2025 18:07 (three months ago)

I started a file in Earthbound a few days back. So far so awesome. The dialogue!! The battles!

Enjoy, Travis. SD3 is pretty immediate, Agata maybe less so, but bear with him and at some point you're sure to find he's blown your head right off, the sneaky fucker.

TheNuNuNu, Tuesday, 20 May 2025 04:04 (three months ago)

The Neo Geo discussion on the Ongaku Zukan poll thread made me think about why an artist as accomplished as Sakamoto would want to work with a producer like Laswell, whose “car crash” cross cultural experiments were very hit and miss compared to Ryuichi. And I have to think at least part of the answer was Laswell’s Rolodex.

Neo Geo may be kind of a more downtown spin on Ongaku Zukan but it def. paved the way for his All Star collabs with Robbie Robertson, Robert Wyatt, Brian Wilson, Youssou N’Dour, Sly and Robbie, etc. Which weren’t necessarily successful but def. sort of enhanced his reputation and industry power in a way I suspect Andy Partridge, Robin Scott and Adrian Belew couldn’t really.

Naive Teen Idol, Wednesday, 21 May 2025 05:00 (three months ago)

two weeks pass...

Over the years, I've noticed the Anglo fan contingent keeps having problems with Beauty, Heartbeat &tc. Where's the problem exactly? It's like there's a snub of implied bad faith in these formal and language experiments he was doing - how so? Why would "Neo Geo" as a concept to these albums be a failure? Conversely to British fans, Gen-X Italian ones near-unanimously regard Beauty as his acme among Sakamoto's pop albums. Where's the rocki$t main$tream $hark-jump there? Because I don't hear it. I hear a rightfully ambitious music that is more communicative/engaging than before, because it's based on novel socio-global ideas and not just artfully/tidily formal or stylistic ones like the works up to '87. The collision between Foster/dub/Okinawa in "Romance", to name but one out of several possible examples on Beauty, is much more than just a cool or artful concoction - the enthusiasm in that heady mix is palpable, and contagious. The stretch from Beauty to Chasm has no business being scoffed at.

Max Florian, Friday, 6 June 2025 18:10 (three months ago)

I love Beauty and Heartbeat. I think the former makes slightly more sense in its original Japanese tracklist vs the UK one which adds the (awesome, but out-of-place) You Do Me single. I think Heartbeat is more slept on than anything else - it's not on the streamers. Maybe people bump on the 90s synth presets, but these things are cyclical and those sounds are v in-vogue right now.

Cloud #9 is one of my favourite Sylvian/Sakamoto joints.

bamboohouses, Friday, 6 June 2025 18:54 (three months ago)

I don't mind that he expanded his circle of collaborators -- Futurista has a whole bunch of western guests and that's still top-shelf Ryuichi for me. I don't deny that he kept his searcher's heart alive and well. There's a great anecdote about how each time he would deliver these late '80s and early '90s records to his label, he would proudly announce them as his latest pop album. Then the label head would listen, and call Ryuichi back in, and tell him, "In what fucking world is this pop music?!?! What pop music are you even listening to!!"

But personally I find it hard to connect with the rhythmic and sonic ideas he was pursuing. There's more gloss, less forest. frogbs's example of comparing the Asatoya Yunta on Beauty and Hosono's on Paraiso may be instructive. Sakamoto's sounds lovely and full, but its sonic world doesn't have much to do with the likes of Futurista anymore, even less so War Head or something.

So I respect that strecth more than I enjoy it. Surely there is no album on earth that sounds like much Sweet Revenge...? It may not be the kind of crazy that I fall for, but it's still crazy alright.

TheNuNuNu, Saturday, 7 June 2025 02:16 (three months ago)

Oh yeah, a friend did play me four tracks from Chasm the other day and they were all 100% awesome. I really like Smoochy too.

TheNuNuNu, Saturday, 7 June 2025 02:17 (three months ago)

"undercooled" is one of the coolest tracks he ever did. the fact that it uses the skipping CD noise!! brilliant

frogbs, Saturday, 7 June 2025 03:28 (three months ago)

Undercooled was the awesomest of the four. My friend (a Chinese uni student who's gone travelling to Japan) introduced it as guided by a pan-Asian peace sentiment: Japanese composer, Korean rapper, traditional Chinese instruments. You live in East Asia long enough, that kind of message has impact.

TheNuNuNu, Saturday, 7 June 2025 03:55 (three months ago)

Max's argument is compelling though. Gonna listen to Beauty again with an ear for that enthusiasm.

TheNuNuNu, Saturday, 7 June 2025 08:43 (three months ago)

Ah yeah, Romance *is* wonderful. Romance followed by Chinsagu no Hana has been my favorite thing about Beauty.

TheNuNuNu, Saturday, 7 June 2025 09:25 (three months ago)

Chasm is an incredible record. I also love this version of Undercooled that came out a few years later:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OQNTcoayZ3E

bamboohouses, Saturday, 7 June 2025 09:37 (three months ago)

two months pass...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ou7szZ1Y2B4

trailer for new doc Ryuichi Sakamoto: Diaries, narration by Min Tanaka (!)

dazza (missingNO), Monday, 1 September 2025 12:46 (one week ago)


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