Tzadik: Search & Destroy

Also: Has anyone ever seen her live installations?

Destroy: Well, so much of sounds fascinating, but besides not having the money, I'm always afraid that I'm getting suckered in by the tantalizing descriptions and won't actually listen to the records much. Therefore, I haven't heard much else from the label that doesn't have Zorn on it.

As far as other stuff on Tzadik goes, here's some recommendations:

Arnold Dreyblatt, Animal Magnetism - kinda like a cross between downtown minimalism and a marching band. Really great, esp. when played LOUD. Luc Ferrari, Cellule 75 - interesting pieces from probably the most interesting 20th Century (and still alive, I saw him a couple weeks ago) French composer, played by William Winant and some other people. Jim O'Rourke, Terminal Pharmacy - admittedly not for everyone, but I like it.

Also, I don't have 'em, but the Milford Graves ones are good. Same with the already-mentioned Wadada Leo Smith.

I remember Susie Ibarra's Flower After Flower being good too.

TMFTML
http://intonation.blogspot.com

Marc Feldman "Music For Violin Alone" (This man is my hero)

Susie Abarra Trio

Ikue Mori "B/Side"

Masada String Trio

Jennifer Charles and Oren Bloedow's Tzadik release (blanking on the name).

Carla Kilstedht and Rob Berger from Tin Hat Trio both have solo albums coming out soon that are very interesting.

anthony coleman "sephardic tinge"

naked city (s/t and live releases)

"A native of Mexico, where as a young man he encountered and became friends with American marverick Conlon Nancarrow, Ernesto Martinez has been sculpting remarkably original polyrhythmic compositions for well over a decade. Inspired equally by Balinese Gamelan techniques, the player piano masterworks of Nancarrow, and Mexican folk traditions, Ernesto Martinez and his group Micro-ritmia blends complex and virtuosic hocketing techniques, meticulously performed on a combination of piano, marimba and altered guitars, with a striking sense of drama. Tzadik is proud to present the first recordings outside Mexico of this iconoclastic composer."

destroy: zorn

Some searches:

Massacre - Funny Valentine.
Ikue Mori - Garden is marvy too. Intricate layered Alessis drum machines.
Yes, Ibarra's Flower After Flower, absolutely.
Merzbow - 1930

Horse Tricks by Mark De Gli Antoni is one of my favorite albums of all time.

Yes to: destroy Zorn

Zorn's 50th Birthday Celebration Concerts Vol. 1: Masada String Trio (volume 2 is a Zorn/Graves duo disc, can't fucking wait!)

Kabell Years - Wadada Leo Smith (great reissue of 4 privately pressed 70s Smith albs w/ extra tracks etc. - all of the Wadada Tzadik releases I've heard are superb, and reason enough to 'justify' the label's existence)

Filmworks XIV: Hiding and Seeking - John Zorn (beautiful soundtrack recorded by most of the Electric Masada group)

Meditations for Piano - Borah Bergman ("solid enough")

Plus I finally heard Solo for Wounded CD by Yasunao Tone, a wonderful piece of electronica that offers a v. different take on micro-glitch

also 'ganryu island': a 'solid' improv sesh between zorn and michihiro sato.

''Zorn's 50th Birthday Celebration Concerts Vol. 1: Masada String Trio (volume 2 is a Zorn/Graves duo disc, can't fucking wait!)''

:-o

Cathode is also great, yes. First track is something I heard a couple of seconds of and knew I could easily listen to it if it went on for an hour or so.

I'm really looking forward to that Zorn/Graves cd too.

I n t e r e s t i n g sounds, but like much of this music, it doesn't hit me on an emotional level.

I definitely like Ibarra's own Folkloriko more.

Not yet, sundar. It's not difficult to listen to really, it just doesn't excite me much. But since it's not difficult to listen to, I will probably throw it on at least a few more times. I might just keep it around for the sake of having some of that sort of thing on hand.

Missing Italics.

bar kokhba sextet vol. 2
sanhedrin: masada 1994-1997: unreleased studio recordings
jamie saft trio: astaroth

anyone got anything to say about any of them?

Destroy: Tzadik and its prices and its founder

Destroy - MArc Ribot, Yo! I Killed Your God.

Is the Hoahio a new release? The most recent Tzadik releases I picked up were Ikue Mori's Myrninerest (one long computer music composition - quite impressive) and Merzbow's Sphere (interesting - I need to listen some more).

Henry Kaiser / Charles K. Noyes / Sang Won Park: Invite the Spirit 2006 [#7617]

One of the most evocative and successful meetings of East and West reunites to weave their magic spell via kayagum, electric guitar and percussion. Invite the Spirit was a sensation when it was first released in 1983 and now over twenty years later they are sounding better than ever. Joined by two scintillating Korean P’ansori vocalists on several tracks this is a whole new take on the Korean shamanistic tradition. Over seventy minutes of timeless, ecstatic, magical music unlike anything you’ve ever heard.

There really is a Jewish conspiracy!

(joke)

But Zorn's sax playing really does suck.

I also hate the pompous uniform design of Tzadik releases. Who's the *genius* that thinks it's "avant-garde" to place light-coloured font over metallic paper on the 'New Japan' series, thus rendering the entire thing completely unreadable?

Oh, and 'New Japan' is a silly, lazy moniker as well.

This is excellent. Sometimes it's jazz in a fairly straight ahead way, sometimes it's more modern classical (usually with a downton NYC sort of feel), with melodies and harmonies that often seem like they would work in pop. I hear things that remind me of Steve Reich, Joan LaBarbara (although mostly her vocal technique is pretty standard), maybe Bjork? Even Shiina Ringo, though I don't want to say it, because I'm sure any resemblance there is strictly coincidental. There's also someone else (I think) doing Persian classical vocals in a couple places. I certainly find it more interesting than most of Zorn's own Jewish tinge recordings. The biggest drawback (for me) might turn out to be that it tends to be a very theatrical sort of recording, which I find tends to wear out more quickly for me. The lyrics are all from the Songs of Songs (sung in the Hebrew) and I think the theatrical tone of the music comess out of the way the original text is written as a dialogue. But it's very good and after a few listens, I'm still feeling I need to listen several times to get a better handle on it, which isn't to say it's inaccessible, just fairly rich.

not destroy so much as, well, just kinda uneven: the two milford graves solo records. both have their moments, particularly "transcendence" on grand unification. but too much of the material sounds unfocused, nowhere near the impact of his esp-disk with sunny morgan.

So are any of these Radical Jewish Culture series discs I keep seeing any good?

Yes. Let me just add that I love Tzadik. Whenever I don't have anything to listen to I look up what's at Tzadik. The tribute to Marc Bolan is one of the best tribute albums I've ever heard.

Erik Friedlander's installment of the Book of Angels is on my to-buy list.

the New Klezmer Trio discs are great...

this thread is too large to read all, but...

- George Lewis- Voyager
- Barbez- Force of Light (saw them last week and was blown away)
- any of the Painkiller records
- Yosunao Tone- Songs for Wounded CD
- any of the Zeena Parkins records

and there are so many more good ones that i can't think of off the top of my head.

Otomo Yoshihide New Jazz Ensemble Dreams is a good one - kind of noir-lounge jazz with plaintive vocals by Japanese singers Phew and Togawa Jun - with some interesting touches, like the sine waves provided by Sachiko M - covering tunes by Asa-Chang & Junray and Jim O'Rourke.

hmm, i'll have to check out that one. i had an intense love affair with asa-chang & jun-ray a few years ago.

So has anyone heard the new Book of Angels? Mycale? It looks super amazing, it has Ayelet Rose Gottlieb and Basya Schecter (ie: Pharoah's Daughter) singing on it. I don't see any instruments on the personal list, so it might all be vocal, which is awesome. Too bad no Jewlia Eisenberg, tho :(

Saw Zorn tonight, bitchin show.

what kind of thing is he doing these days? The last time I saw him was a show at Tonic w/Ribot, Medeski, and ben perowsky and it unexpectedly turned out to be almost entirely straight gutbucket preachy soul jazz. I guess i have a hard time even imagining what Zorn 2010 plays out like

he seems to be enjoying his faux-naive easy-listening jazz these days (via his dreamers project), but it comes across as a bit too cynical to have he same charm as, say, vince guaraldi or bill wells.

it's probably the first phase of zorn's career to have zero appeal for me, tbh.

http://nyufasp.com/2012/10/watch-live-stream-of-save-the-village-starting-at-730pm/

anton brühin and koichi makigami's "electric eel" is a long time favourite. jaw harps & buzzing & gibbering. gets cosmic.
sajjanu's "pechiku!!" is tangled anti-rock slapstick beefhearty twang action with thee most intermittent rockingest stop start interludes if they go on a riff for 10 seconds it seems like an eternity, and it always seems like the best riff you never heard. goofy cross-eyed genius. monster tension release dialogue in this.

http://cps-static.rovicorp.com/3/JPG_250/MI0003/481/MI0003481561.jpg

gorgeous

holy crap this track "pale of settlement" is insanely good. total klezmer-riff blizzards

search: jacques coursil, minimal brass. fucking astounding.

^ this. Brilliant record, one of the best of the decade (and it comes after a 37-year recording hiatus!)

Metheny does Masada on its way ...

lotta tzadik reviews on freejazz-stef lately:

http://www.freejazzblog.org/

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Anthony Coleman - The End of Summer.
Listened to this a lot lately, very somber and sad music about loss, very beautifully performed and with lots of Morton Feldman and Scelsi influences, but Coleman's compositions have their own voice. Very much recommended.

http://c3.cduniverse.ws/resized/250x500/music/845/8837845.jpg
Phantom Orchard Orchestra - Trouble in Paradise
The duo of Zeena Parkins and Ikue Mori, augmented with five players (two of them are Parkins' sisters). Stand-out track is the 10-minute 'Red, Blue and Green', which sounds as a through-composed piece rather than improvised as most of the other material.

http://c3.cduniverse.ws/resized/250x500/music/317/7900317.jpg
Rob Burger - City of Strangers
Sounds like a Tin Hat album and as good as one.

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-ZipYpex68tg/UZs78-OuFAI/AAAAAAAANlU/ehsLEG4mGgI/s200/cover.jpg
Pat Metheny - Book of Angels Volume 20: Tap
This will come as a surprise to PM's fans, but less so for those who know the BoA series, for whom this is just another cd in the series. There's nothing wrong with this cd, but I wish this was a group affair like his latest Quartet-cd, rather than an immensely overdubbed recording where Metheny plays almost every instrument (except for the drums).

http://cps-static.rovicorp.com/3/JPG_250/MI0000/422/MI0000422055.jpg?partner=allrovi.com
Morton Feldman - Patterns in a Chromatic Field
Feldman goes jump-cut style! Ok, less radical than Zorn's own compositions, but still...new ideas are introduced and abandoned every few minutes, and the mood is always changing. Challenging music, and long...the disc is over 80 minutes but very enjoyable (ok I'm a Feldman fan, so I'm happy with everything he did).

http://www.israbox.com/uploads/posts/2013-03/1364677772_front.jpg
John Zorn - Filmworks XXV: City of Slaughter
As mentioned above, Zorn's latest Filmworks-cd, consisting of only solo piano music. Interesting not only for Zorn's own piano playing, but also for a beautiful version of 'Beyond the Infinite' by Rob Burger.

Is that Metheny very new? I've never seen it before, but I haven't checked in with Tzadik for a while. Thanks for the updates.

yes, the Metheny-cd was released this month.

i love the city of slaughter - also of new stuff i really like the carlebach/fela kuti crossover zion80 album from jon madoff, and i'm greatly anticipating the metal album from deveykus coming out soonish

I have to review the Metheny disc for Jazziz, even though from what I've heard it is not in any way a jazz album.

PM's fans will know not to be too surprised by anything, surely.

Anyway, "Metheny plays Zorn" is basically the ultimate bait for me. (I LOVE The Gnostic Preludes feat Frisell and expect this will be every bit as good.) The iTunes clips sound promising. This is definitely going to be my next purchase.

have to review the Metheny disc for Jazziz, even though from what I've heard it is not in any way a jazz album.

Predictably, I love it, except for the last track. I can see it becoming my favourite album from this year. (Colin Stetson's the other contender right now.)

i'm working on one of the Zorn @ 60 shows; he's doing a "purely improvisational" session with Ryuichi Sakamoto in October.

Is he doing as big a series of shows as the @50 series?

yeah, internationally.
http://www.lincolncenterfestival.org/zorn-60/
https://www.barbican.org.uk/music/event-detail.asp?ID=14834
http://www.lepoissonrouge.com/event_attributes/zorn60/
http://fimav.qc.ca/en/edition/john-zorn-60/

i mean i dunno how it stacks up against the @50 honestly, but he's doing a lotta shows through september.

Really want to see that Moonchild show - that's my favorite thing he's done since the Painkiller albums.

Eyvind Kang's new interpretations of Book of Angels songs album is as dazzling and exquisite as could be expected.

ooh, cool. i was looking forward to that.

yes, exciting!!

kind of amazing that Tzadik is still doing their thing, almost 20 years on.

They truly release what the hell they want from Guerilla Toss to Haggai Cohen-Milo, long may they continue.

looking forward to this Haggai Cohen-Milo debut on Tzadik as well.

Hailing from Israel and currently living in Brooklyn, Haggai Cohen-Milo is a gifted bassist and composer exploring the nexus of Jazz and Jewish music. His Tzadik debut features a tight and exciting band of young virtuosos who passionately perform Haggai’s beautiful and lyrical compositions. Brilliant improvisations, poignant melodies and driving rhythms all come together in this exciting program of New Jewish music at its best.
(Release date: May 2014)

yea I also wonder how the label keeps going sometimes. so many releases and only cds!

big grant for Zorn helped. Plus these days they often don't pay anything to artists (other than giving them copies of CDs). They rarely reprint CDs, and have a built-in market of experimental music buyers, so can afford to do lots of small run new releases.

Another case of a Genius grant supporting old media tsk tsk

ah, yes. forgot about that grant.

Well fuck whoever is losing out in this Genius grant deal because I doubt they are as worthwhile and unique as Tzadik.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ga3E-70u4g0

the grant all went to the Stone if i'm not mistaken

that could well be, i would imagine it didn't hurt the long term financial health of tzadik tho'

the stone is great, I'm ok with that too

tho they should use the remaining genius grant funds to add an rss feed to the stone's website because I never remember to check it and always miss out on cool stuff

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sB4HfSRq3fw

It's always been my understanding that the "big-name" releases (Zorn's own stuff, Laswell, others) pay for the really off-the-wall ones destined to sell in the dozens of copies. Plus they never do publicity or anything, so expenses are low.

I wonder who the pianist is on that Eyvind Kang track. Sounds like Anthony Coleman's style.

Kang himself is the only pianist listed in the album credits.

the kang album is so good. thanks for the recommendation xelab

also liking zorn's 'fragmentations, prayers and interjections" release

"sakriel" on the kang album is shocking + beautiful

Missed the Bladerunner tour (Zorn/Laswell/Lombardo), but I could get down with Zorn releasing something from this nu-Painkiller project.

"also liking zorn's 'fragmentations, prayers and interjections" release"
Just caught up with this tonight and am blown away, particularly with Kol Nidre, which is so majestic and very beautiful. Holy shit!

yes otm kol nidre my standout track too

This is a different version but still as essential.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x5DbKzbLzUU

the grant all went to the Stone if i'm not mistaken

― whatchutola khomeini (Whiney G. Weingarten), Thursday, May 1, 2014 3:16 PM (2 weeks ago)

i thought he spent it on the label and recording/touring, but maybe i'm confusing him with kenny vandermark

pretty excited for this - comes out on the 27th:

Ty Citerman celebrates the May 27 release of his latest CD "Bop Kabbalah" on Tzadik Records (Radical Jewish Culture series) with a special concert performance by this fantastic new quartet of Ken Thomson (bass clarinet), Ben Holmes (trumpet), Adam D Gold (drums) and Citerman (guitar). Delving deep into his Jewish roots and drawing inspiration from sources as varied as the Beat Generation, medieval Eastern European and Asian music modes, and the rich depths of Kabbalistic mysticism, Citerman has fashioned an intense and colorful program of modernist music that blends klezmer, nigunim, jazz, rock, classical and more. With the acclaimed punk/jazz/new music ensemble Gutbucket, he has pioneered what Guitar Player called “kinetic punk-jazz opuses” that reveal “an explosive concoction containing lethal doses of Ornette Coleman, King Crimson, John Zorn, Black Sabbath, Stravinsky, and Fugazi” (The Guardian). Citerman's compositions for Bop Kabbalah explore his Jewish life, past and present – they are a soundtrack of memories and musings: the stories his grandmother told him growing up, an alternate version of his Bar Mitzvah, the day he played hooky from Hebrew school, his first trip to Israel, old-country recipes (Ty bakes a mean challah), jokes, family arguments and much more. Ty’s most ambitious and powerful project to date is also his most personal and heartfelt and gives a glimpse of 21st century new Jewish music to come.

(the album, i won't be able to attend the release concert)

Filmworks XXI: Belle de Nature/Rijksmuseum came up in shuffle, and it was lovely.

xp
That sounds brilliant and Bop Kabbalah is an ace title. Been listening to a lot of Omer Klein albums recently so loving music with old world Israeli/Middle Eastern influences. Not familiar with Ty's Gutbucket project which sounds like it is from the noisier Many Arms end of the spectrum.

Good little teaser here with short clips and Citerman talking about Bop Kabbalah.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C73bvfMD-aQ

Staring to really dig his Gutbucket band as well.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JwUEgWctPTs

John Zorn's acclaimed Arcana series, now in its seventh installment, is a major source on new music theory and practice in the twenty-first century. The most varied collection to date, Arcana VII includes personal essays by New Music luminaries Pat Metheny, Bryce Dessner, Irvine Arditti, Thurston Moore, Kenny Werner, Eugene Chadbourne and David Krakauer alongside articles on musical theory and practice by veterans Joe Morris, Matt Shipp, Ben Goldberg, Ches Smith, George Steel, Billy Martin, Hilda Paredes and Gloria Coates and insightful new views by younger musicians Chris Otto, James Moore, Theresa Wong, Shanir Blumenkranz, Jay Campbell, Du Yun, James Ilgenfritz, Chuck Bettis, Aya Nishina and many others. A kaleidoscope of manifestoes, scores, interviews, critical papers, musical studies, rants and more, Arcana VII is a fascinating compendium from first word to last.

http://www.amazon.com/Arcana-VII-Musicians-John-Zorn/dp/0978833740

there isn't that big an age difference between Ches Smith and Theresa Wong -- weird seeing one as a "veteran" and the other as a "younger musician"

I really like that Haggai Cohen-Milo release, it is a modest little album but very nice and quite moving. The Garden is one of my fave tracks right now.

http://i.imgur.com/PN3lMyZ.jpg

The Alchemist Live @ North Sea Jazz Festival July 13, 2013

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y61S791kCvQ

Zorn’s string quartets are some of the most important modern contributions to the canon and a new Zorn quartet is truly a cause for celebration. His sixth quartet is inspired by the hermetic Angelic actions of John Dee and is replete with the procedures of distillation, calcination, crystallization, sublimation, purification, rotation as well numerology, prayers, canons, contrapuntal complexity and the ghost of a familiar fugue. Also included is Zorn’s mystical response to the ancient Newgrange sacred site in Ireland, a beautiful and evocative setting of Amergin, one of the oldest Celtic sacred texts, written for three female voices.

the celtic texts piece, 'earthspirt,' reminds me of mycale-stuff (which i love)

I wasn't too interested in the string quartet but Earthspirit is amazing, some definite Joan La Barbara influences on the vocal sounds.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pzmYA5imuyw

jamie saft's new zion trio live right now:
https://www.concertwindow.com/shows/7478-new-zion-trio

just got a copy of:

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haven't heard yet but i'm excited. i've heard great things about it.

there isn't that big an age difference between Ches Smith and Theresa Wong -- weird seeing one as a "veteran" and the other as a "younger musician"

yikes, internet press team strikes again

btw the zion80 is fantastic. it should've been their debut.

http://cps-static.rovicorp.com/3/JPG_400/MI0003/748/MI0003748005.jpg

Of all the tzadik releases this year i still think the Haggai Cohen-Milo - Penguin album is the best.

i listened to zebrina - hamidbar medaber yesterday; i thought it was really good - very crisp and smart playing.

Anyone heard the Gnostic Trio album? I'm excited for this.

yes, i listened a little bit today. the testament of solomon one, right? i have to listen more, very understated

Wish Tzadik releases were on Spotify :(

the testament of solomon one, right?

Yes, that's the one I meant. I love The Gnostic Preludes.

I like the Zebrina track here: https://soundcloud.com/something-else-reviews/zebrina-with-ben-goldberg-the

Bought Testament of Solomon. I might actually like it more than The Gnostic Preludes.

Biggest Tzadik-discovery this year for me was Tobias Picker's ´Invisible Lilacs', especially the piano quartet ´Live Oaks´. Also catching up on Sylvie Courvoisier's output on both Tzadik and Intakt records.

Yeah Double Windsor is a very good album.

Haven´t heard Double Windsor yet but I´m curious to hear it, same for the Phantom Orchard Orchestra. The first one (Trouble in Paradise) had some nice surprises so I´m happy to see the continued the extended line-up.

Zorn is releasing more own stuff than before it seems. I enjoyed his idea to mix improvisation and scored classical music on ´Rimbaud´, now he seems to further develop this approach. Oh and choosing Tyshawn Sorey as a recording artist, a great talent.

On a major John Zorn jag...The Frisell/Wollason/Emanuel trio are golden...'The Mysteries' is real nicey...

Is it significantly different from Gnostic Preludes and Testament of Solomon?

Not heard TOS but for me a little more compelling than TGP even though there's nowt wrong with TGP

i keep listening over + over to zebrina

Tradescantia zebrina, formerly known as Zebrina pendula, is a species of spiderwort more commonly known as an inch plant or wandering jew. The common name is shared with closely related varieties T. fluminensis and T. pallida.

https://c1.staticflickr.com/5/4069/4546272611_87229632be_z.jpg

Zorn’s string quartets are some of the most important modern contributions to the canon and a new Zorn quartet is truly a cause for celebration. His sixth quartet is inspired by the hermetic Angelic actions of John Dee and is replete with the procedures of distillation, calcination, crystallization, sublimation, purification, rotation as well numerology, prayers, canons, contrapuntal complexity and the ghost of a familiar fugue. Also included is Zorn’s mystical response to the ancient Newgrange sacred site in Ireland, a beautiful and evocative setting of Amergin, one of the oldest Celtic sacred texts, written for three female voices.

Who wrote this bit of foolishness?

This is from the Tzadik website :
http://www.tzadik.com/volume.php?VolumeID=745

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0ExsXRpp0js

book of angels stuff has been on-point all year

9 tracks into Phantom Orchard Ensemble's Through the Looking-Glass and OMG this is great (http://www.tzadik.com/index.php?catalog=4003). So many artists I love playing together and listening and connecting so well; a beautiful dreamscape.

I wonder who would be easier to stump: Robert Pollard about song titles or John Zorn about albums he has released.

I really am enjoying the 5049 Records podcasts lately. Read about them in The Wire and listened to a lot of them. That and the last Arcana volume of essays.

Eveningstar(Sun4r), are you aware of the album 'The Adorables´ by Zeena Parkins? Music similar to the Phantom Orchard projects.

No, I don't know that album. I'll look for it!

Featuring the same magical Templar quartet from “In Sacred Blood”, “The Last Judgment” is the final CD in the remarkable Moonchild septology. This project has explored many different worlds in the past 8 years, and this CD takes a moody and lyrical approach with Medeski’s organ fully integrated into the band. Once again inspired by the legend of the powerful Knights Templar and their tragic demise under accusations of heresy in 1307, Zorn has composed a suite of pieces with a strong sense of continuity and emotional impact. Mike Patton draws on every vocal technique in his huge arsenal and the rhythm section of Dunn and Baron are tighter than ever. The last piece of the Moonchild puzzle—essential!

Personnel:
Joey Baron: Drums
Trevor Dunn: Bass
John Medeski: Organ
Mike Patton: Voice

i've been hearing medeski everywhere recently (and he's great so no complaints) - this looks fab.

I would recommend Aram Bajakian's brilliant and seemingly underrated There Were Flowers Also In Hell lp from last year, well it isn't on Tzadik but his debut was and he is a former Zorn band member and sounds a bit like Ribot and I couldn't think of a more appropriate thread.

All the Moonchild albums are fantastic. The last two, In Sacred Blood and The Last Judgment, are basically prog rock.

http://www.iupress.indiana.edu/product_info.php?products_id=807438

The Book Of Angels 24 has a load of Mexican musicians on board and it is brilliant!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F4YDYfN41VA

ooo i've been looking forward to that one, happy to hear it's great

I'm a bit hyped on it at the moment but would say it is one of the best, up there with the Kang one.

Wow, hearing "The Goddess" for the first time, what a lovely record.

Tzadik albums showing up on Spotify?

Mayim Rabim

Nothing on the Tzadik website about this to confirm, but the Tzadik Label facebook page has a post announcing everything is 25% off through the month of November to celebrate the label's 25th anniversary. https://www.facebook.com/TzadikLabel/posts/3780391991993906
Might be fake, can't tell.

Post now updated with "Give us a moment to figure out an unexpected delay for the sale. Sorry about the wait." Seems legit though, thanks for the heads up! Ive got a long list of discs I've been meaning to grab from them, thisll be the perfect excuse.

Ooops, dang: "For a variety of reasons out of our control we've had to cancel and re-evaluate our ability to celebrate with an anniversary sale at this time. Please continue to support Tzadik"

Email today from Downtown Music Gallery, the store that seems to handle Tzadik's mail order that theyre offering all Tzadik titles 25% off through December - but they seem to not know how to update the webstore? Email amusingly contains what appears to be a list of ALL in-print Tzadik titles with an invitation to email them directly to order. Seems like a clusterfuck in the making but I feel like I'll give it a shot.

Bought the complete Masada studio recordings box from DMG and just got the shipment confirmation email. Should be here before my birthday!

Nice one. Enjoy!

OK, fine, I'll buy one

I just bought one

Fomo really makes me want one, this is some of my favorite music, but I just can't pull the trigger on a pricey CD boxed set, especially for CDs I used to own.

I used to own two of the CDs but one went missing several years ago.

Maybe it's in the boxed set.

Box just arrived. The packaging is pretty sweet...

https://www.instagram.com/p/C0xNbD-vNNV/

Nice. Wish I could check out the book.

Looks fantastic. Let's see if one of these boxes makes it to Europe these days. Tzadik website is still down.

Does anyone know if the 'hour of rare alternate takes, rehearsals, and inserts' on the Masada box duplicates anything from the Sanhedrin two-disc set of unreleased Masada studio recordings?

Does anyone know if the 'hour of rare alternate takes, rehearsals, and inserts' on the Masada box duplicates anything from the Sanhedrin two-disc set of unreleased Masada studio recordings?

Not 100% sure, but I don't think so. There's only one overlapping track from Sanhedrin and Disc 4 of the box set ("Tiferet") and the new box set it says it's a rehearsal take. Discogs listing of the 10xCD box has no track times though so I'm not entirely sure.

Thanks!

Wait, the box is billed as the complete studio recordings, but it doesn't include Sanhedrin?

The box is the original 10 albums as they were issued in Japan in the 90s, with 7 bonus tracks (rehearsals, punch-ins and alternate takes) added to the fourth disc to bring it up from 20 minutes to 78. There’s a note in the book saying basically “there’s even more stuff on Sanhedrin!”.

Huh. At least "Sanhedrin" is on streaming.

I may wind up buying Sanhedrin at some point, but I got this box because I'd never owned any Masada stuff in physical form; I just downloaded the albums (and Sanhedrin) at some point.

I've got to admit, my adult brain is fighting the fomo ...

I came super close to buying this but didn't. I did, however, see that Second City Prints, which was handling Tzadik Limited stuff, just declared bankruptcy, and that some people that bought the autographed copy got a regular copy instead (and that SCP has not always been responding/refunding). Didn't Zorn recently get hosed by a *different* third party label that went bankrupt? Dude needs to find/pick better businesses.

Shoestring gonna shoestring, what can you really do

Anyway, you can get them mail order from Downtown Music Gallery

https://roulette.org/event/improv-nights-2024/

A BENEFIT FOR TZADIK RECORDS

Limited Run, the online distributor for Tzadik’s direct-to-consumer mail order projects has declared bankruptcy owing the label $70,000. To help rebalance this loss these kind musicians have generously offered to make these three concerts benefits for Tzadik.

Please come, donate, and help Tzadik continue its mission to support and document new music in the 21st century.

A three-night run bringing together master improvisers to perform in multiple configurations and combinations, organized by and featuring John Zorn with Ikue Mori, Wendy Eisenberg, Dave Douglas, Sean Ono Lennon, Peter Evans, Kalia Vandever, Miles Okazaki, and many others.

It's crazy to me how even artists I've been listening to for more than 30 years, who are known worldwide, are balancing on a knife's edge financially. Zorn, Laswell...these are major cultural figures, and they're basically living gig to gig.

Laswell I believe, especially after the last couple of years. But Zorn, I suspect he's doing fine between gigs, grants, etc. If people are curating multi-night festival appearances featuring him and several of his bands, I'd hope he's at least got some pretty good guarantees coming to him. Granted, he likely rolls a lot of that into his labels/projects, but that's a choice. (A choice I'm glad he's making, mind.)

Interview with Heung-Heung Chin: https://www.freejazzblog.org/2024/01/the-art-and-design-world-of-heung-heung.html

Cool ty, I always wondered about the art!

Yeah, that was great.

Yeah, that's great stuff.

It's crazy to me how even artists I've been listening to for more than 30 years, who are known worldwide, are balancing on a knife's edge financially.

It's not that crazy. thanks, Spotify!

I gotta be honest, I wish Zorn would sell more merch! Bring on the posters, the prints, t-shirts, the coffee table books! The Tzadik site has pretty slim pickings.

Related, I wonder when/if they are going to (home) release the Zorn docs that the actor Mathieu Amalric has been making:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O5ybQOI5M3g

This new On Ka'a Davis album is terrific.